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38: sources) Its "BrotherSync" does two things. It syncs the sample clocks46: The best stereo set up is really a subset of the brothersync setup,50: brothersync so that the sample clocks are together. Once it is set up, you
45: Yeah, that's the idea! A big point of the BrotherSync in the echoplex is to
199610/msg00155:Re: delay tricks & Indian classical music
118: >BrotherSync. I assume you've tried this sort of thing?
45: BrotherSync. I assume you've tried this sort of thing?
52: whole lot of people have tried to do that sort of thing! The BrotherSync is
42: BrotherSync for sync sources, some of the Echoplexes in your setup are
37: outputs of the BrotherSync jack and add a couple of resistors. With this39: regardless of what happens to other units connected with BrotherSync. This56: should be good. I suppose if you really need to BrotherSync even more units63: sequentially from there. I made some value changes in the BrotherSync66: corrected problems where plugging and unplugging a cable in the BrotherSync70: what values should be in the BrotherSync circuit. I should put this on the82: Something like that in the BrotherSync would definitely cause intermittant
199701/msg00001:Re: Paradis Loop Delay vs. Echoplex
56: unfortunately, the BrotherSync of the LOOP delay and Plex are not
54: in the manual the Brothersync input was totally proprietary so I never
37: - Connect both machines BrotherSync with a stereo 1/4" cable.
36: Yes, it does not need to be MIDI. BrotherSync is better for looping, and if
20: > Yes, it does not need to be MIDI. BrotherSync is better for looping, and
20: >> Yes, it does not need to be MIDI. BrotherSync is better for looping,
290: could only be done by removing the BrotherSync cable or using particular
24: upgrade by leaving the brothersync cable out and setting the sync to "off"
21: >I'm not familiar with the term "brothersync". Are both systems sending
40: I was touched that the intention of BrotherSync was interpreted here
23: BTW, I think it's cool that the "BrotherSync" term is drifting free of the
199709/msg00139:The Echoplex upgrade arrives! (fwd)
300: could only be done by removing the BrotherSync cable or using particular
33: >pitch changes, using this technique. The BrotherSync is for making finite
25: >upgrade by leaving the brothersync cable out and setting the sync to "off"36: buffer (another part of the HC03) into the tip of BrotherSync.38: coming out of the BrotherSync tip. About a 1k resistor and a big capacitor
20: I'm not familiar with the term "brothersync". Are both systems sending47: to cascade the JamMen (brothersync?) is that the CPU in JamMan that
36: >>upgrade by leaving the brothersync cable out and setting the sync to 48: >buffer (another part of the HC03) into the tip of BrotherSync.50: >coming out of the BrotherSync tip. About a 1k resistor and a big capacitor
35: >software versions, the two units sync up fine in BrotherSync mode). I
20: pitch changes, using this technique. The BrotherSync is for making finite52: >>>upgrade by leaving the brothersync cable out and setting the sync to 64: >>buffer (another part of the HC03) into the tip of BrotherSync.66: >>coming out of the BrotherSync tip. About a 1k resistor and a big
24: >I'm not familiar with the term "brothersync". Are both systems sending79: >Part of the problems with trying to cascade the JamMen (brothersync?)
25: software versions, the two units sync up fine in BrotherSync mode). I have
199711/msg00032:Re: echoplex questions (was Closing the loop)
80: What you are trying to do is exactly what BrotherSync is for. BrotherSync
38: > The BrotherSync connection ensures that the stereo units maintain very44: > BrotherSync's of the two units together with this cable.52: units, BeatSync works, BrotherSync does not. The "sync" dot *never* 54: (and the timing drifts) when the units are in BrotherSync mode (default 60: I seem to remember that BrotherSync OCCASIONALLY would show a "sync" dot,
24: operate synced in stereo with BrotherSync. has anybody out there been
25: >operate synced in stereo with BrotherSync. has anybody out there been46: The BrotherSync connection ensures that the stereo units maintain very50: BrotherSync's of the two units together with this cable.
199803/msg00968:Re: Slick n' Finished VS Fresh n' New
60: On the echoplex we have the BrotherSync functions waiting for this purpose.61: BrotherSync allows multiple echoplexes to communicate their loop times and
36: That sounds like you are using the wrong sort of cable for BrotherSync. You40: BrotherSync. Is that it?51: won't save. Otherwise, if you are using a mono cable in BrotherSync, maybe
199806/msg00270:Re: Is the new EDP more than just a software update?
44: this is correct. allows BrotherSync to work with many more
199806/msg00277:Re: Is the new EDP more than just a software update?
55: > this is correct. allows BrotherSync to work with many more
199806/msg00279:Re: Is the new EDP more than just a software update?
66: > > this is correct. allows BrotherSync to work with many more
59: like Multiply (which is a brilliant invention of Matthias') and BrotherSync
199810/msg00488:Re: Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP?
3: Re: Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP?10: Subject: Re: Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP?
786: Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP?, October 21, 19981271: Re: Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP?, October 21, 1998
199810/msg00486:Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP?
3: Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP?10: Subject: Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP?19: Isn't anybody using BrotherSync on the EDP for syncing multiple looped
30: lengths, etc, is exactly the main function of BrotherSync on the echoplex. 32: For stereo connections of echoplex you use the BrotherSync connection, but33: you don't truly use all the BrotherSync function. In that case you are37: not really BrotherSync.39: The main point of BrotherSync is the multitrack loop thing that you're all42: BrotherSync lets you synchronize as many echplexes together as you like.
55: >alternatively, you can have two (or more) of them BrotherSync'd together
38: alternatively, you can have two (or more) of them BrotherSync'd together
32: be better off by sending a click to the edp's brothersync? if so, what
35: > be better off by sending a click to the edp's brothersync? if so, what
45: >be better off by sending a click to the edp's brothersync? if so, what
58: > be better off by sending a click to the edp's brothersync? if so,
25: the stereo sound is fantastic and the BrotherSync worked flawlessly - I
199903/msg00345:Re: Custom Echoplex switching pedals...any interest?
29: BrotherSync. Maybe this will be MIDIable in some future
199903/msg00375:Re: Custom Echoplex switching pedals...any interest?
29: BrotherSync. Maybe this will be MIDIable in some future
86: them locked together as a stereo pair. Our sync scheme with the BrotherSync94: and output. With the BrotherSync, you can share syncs between all of them,
19: Thanks for the suggestion. I tried the BrotherSync connection last night23: 1) How do you connect three echoplexes with BrotherSync? Do you use a25: 2) When connected via BrotherSync, the 8ths/beat parameter on either unit28: on the two units. Is this possible with BrotherSync?29: 3) Should the MIDI-IN be connected to the MIDI-OUT when using BrotherSync?31: BrotherSync. If not so, i.e., if MIDI isn't used, how does the 8ths/beat46: >says in the manual (and from my personal experience) to use BrotherSync 51: >BrotherSync. Plug the MIDI cable to the IN on the unit that is
36: "BrotherSync is a myth and does not work, showing
71: >"BrotherSync is a myth and does not work, showing77: Are you using the proper cable? 95% of the time people have a BrotherSync86: ERR message if you had 4 or more of them connected with BrotherSync. New
21: > "BrotherSync is a myth and does not work, showing26: I saw a picture of BrotherSync in the National
22: the BrotherSync as Kim commented but no dice.
199906/msg00418:RE: EDP -- Group Buy II vs. Enhancements
70: "BrotherSync is a myth and does not work, showing
36: BrotherSync just corrects minor irregularities with a little jump in the
63: | BrotherSync just corrects minor irregularities with a little jump in
79: connect them with BrotherSync!
199911/msg00664:Re: > loopist > musician > looper sync
33: it works with MIDI, but better with BrotherSync. No clicks. And with the43: Using BrotherSync in the version I am working on, the second player can
199911/msg00629:Re: delay -> looper || player -> loopist -> musician
48: That all being said, having midi or brothersync keep everything tight
199911/msg00675:Re: > loopist > musician > looper sync
26: > it works with MIDI, but better with BrotherSync. No clicks. And39: > Using BrotherSync in the version I am working on, the second player
199911/msg00729:Re: > loopist > musician > looper sync
20: >> Using BrotherSync in the version I am working on, the second player
199911/msg00833:Re: > loopist > musician > looper sync
26: >> Using BrotherSync in the version I am working on, the second
199912/msg00512:Re: sync-ing non-midi loopers/ cheap stereo loopers???
59: >took this idea a step farther with BrotherSync. This actually synchronizes
199912/msg00499:Re: sync-ing non-midi loopers/ cheap stereo loopers???
51: took this idea a step farther with BrotherSync. This actually synchronizes
200004/msg00878:RE: Is it possible to sync Vortex to EDP?
36: But BrotherSync is sent out even at Sync=IN for a similar reason: It
200005/msg00413:Re: Is it possible to sync Vortex to EDP?
26: >> out of BeatSync or BrotherSync, but the MIDIclock coming in is sent27: >> out of the BrotherSync RING. So just adapt your cable using a stereo
200005/msg00404:Re: Is it possible to sync Vortex to EDP?
28: > out of BeatSync or BrotherSync, but the MIDIclock coming in is sent29: > out of the BrotherSync RING. So just adapt your cable using a stereo63: > or whatever function and BrotherSync will just continue to translate
200005/msg00394:Re: Is it possible to sync Vortex to EDP?
33: out of BeatSync or BrotherSync, but the MIDIclock coming in is sent 34: out of the BrotherSync RING. So just adapt your cable using a stereo 58: or whatever function and BrotherSync will just continue to translate
200006/msg00671:Re: Echoplex cycle question (careful exits?)
22: I use switchquant = on usually, and brothersync with 3 edps, so I tend
3: EDP, midi, BrotherSync10: Subject: EDP, midi, BrotherSync40: www.mp3.com/brothersync45: into the EDPs (no midi, just BrotherSync).48: details. For true fidelity, contact brothersync@yahoo.com to buy our
122: EDP, midi, BrotherSync, August 04, 2000
43: Echoplex does with BrotherSync. You can get phase problems between the two52: "BrotherSync" on the echoplex - there are no masters and slaves, only
26: effect using brothersync and midi, and studied when and why sync was
30: http://www.mp3.com/brothersync
44: >http://www.mp3.com/brothersync
200012/msg00276:OT:Re: Roland VS880 Scrubbing question!
64: http://artists3.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/BrotherSync/66: http://www.mp3.com/brothersync
200101/msg00193:SsTtEeRrEeOo EDP SsYyNnCc issues......
73: (BrotherSync cable type, unit parameter resets etc).75: - Replaced the BrotherSync cable. The brand new BrotherSync cables I've79: - Removed the BrotherSync cable from both units (Admittedly, this may be a
200101/msg00200:Re: SsTtEeRrEeOo EDP SsYyNnCc issues......
29: scope on the BrotherSync signal? if so, what would we look for?
200101/msg00092:Re: Newly enrolled looper bids greetings to all;
49: Another fix was for the brothersync circuit, making it work a lot better
26: http://artists3.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/BrotherSync/27: http://www.mp3.com/brothersync
200101/msg00253:Re: SsTtEeRrEeOo EDP SsYyNnCc issues......
86: > scope on the BrotherSync signal? if so, what would we look for?
200101/msg00113:Kim tells newbie what he witheld from oldbies
48: > Another fix was for the brothersync circuit, making it work a lot
200101/msg00297:Re: SsTtEeRrEeOo EDP SsYyNnCc issues......
21: brothersync'd without any sync problems.23: http://www.mp3.com/brothersync
200101/msg00198:SsTtEeRrEeOo EDP SsYyNnCc issues......
73: (BrotherSync cable type, unit parameter resets etc).75: - Replaced the BrotherSync cable. The brand new BrotherSync cables I've79: - Removed the BrotherSync cable from both units (Admittedly, this may be a
200101/msg00800:Re: Any More Info on New BOSS Looping pedal
38: www.mp3.com/brothersync
200102/msg00268:Re: simultaneous, multiple-length loops
47: We developed the BrotherSync function on the echoplex to do just this. Each53: The great thing about BrotherSync is you don't have to predetermine any of72: Another great part about BrotherSync is that unlike midi, it is
200102/msg00237:Re: simultaneous, multiple-length loops
50: > ...maybe two EDP's w/ brothersync?
200102/msg00210:Re: simultaneous, multiple-length loops
31: the DJRND3? ...maybe two EDP's w/ brothersync?
28: them up for stereo use (brothersync w/TRS and midi out from master to midi
200108/msg00700:Re: EDP Stereo-sync +brilliant undocumented feature.
20: > brothersync 33: pressed is transmitted through Brothersync, at least not in a way that
37: I suspect that the importance of BrotherSync has not been understood yet.
200108/msg00702:Re: EDP Stereo-sync +brilliant undocumented feature.
20: >> brothersync34: >pressed is transmitted through Brothersync, at least not in a way that
31: that is mostly right, but you are forgetting about the brothersync 50: stayed constant. That is something the brothersync helps ensure on a 77: the master unit send commands to the slave, along with the brothersync
19: > that is mostly right, but you are forgetting about the brothersync33: I did not realize the BrotherSync connection did so much! I thought it
33: >Why dont you start the experience with BrotherSync :-) ?
50: Why dont you start the experience with BrotherSync :-) ?
30: multiple EDP's together with the BrotherSync, which is sample accurate.
27: >ratio through BrotherSync).
25: There should be a network of BrotherSync cables spread over the stage :-)
46: > There should be a network of BrotherSync cables spread over the stage :-)
200110/msg00981:RE: Re:Best effects processor. (Sync)
24: build the thing, so in '92 the LOOP delay had continuous BrotherSync,
29: ratio through BrotherSync).
23: There should be a network of BrotherSync cables spread over the stage :-)
23: >ratio through BrotherSync).
200110/msg00792:powers of two (Re: NYC loop fest)
23: >There should be a network of BrotherSync cables spread over the stage :-)
37: by using the BrotherSync function. That is exactly what it is for, 42: http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_glimpse/LDarchive?query=brothersync&Search=Search&errors=0&maxfiles=500&maxlines=10&.cgifields=partial&.cgifields=restricttofiles&.cgifields=lineonly&.cgifields=case&.cgifields=filelist47: experiment with different midi configs along with BrotherSync and
31: check that brothersync cable, bet that's it .
37: On the Echoplex, there is a feature called BrotherSync that allows
20: would you be able to brothersync an old EDP with new upgraded one using
22: >would you be able to brothersync an old EDP with new upgraded one using
49: > comes on when there is something connected in the BrotherSync 74: > connected to BrotherSync and turned them on one at a time,
29: comes on when there is something connected in the BrotherSync jack or the 47: connected to BrotherSync and turned them on one at a time, sometimes the
20: BrotherSync jack of your echoplex. For some reason the tip connection 65: > > comes on when there is something connected in the BrotherSync90: > > connected to BrotherSync and turned them on one at a time,
200206/msg01064:RE: Loop IV: Substitute is awesome
50: BeatSync, or BrotherSync, the tempo is set by that sync signal and
200207/msg00934:Re: Mark Sottilaro's Loop Erotica contributions to LD
29: > See two EDP's in hot brothersync action
200207/msg01456:Re: synchronizing 2 edps' to external clock
33: - connect the TRS cable between the BrotherSync jacks of each unit
37: brothersync, or beatsync that can set the tempo for you. The loop length
27: brothersync, or beatsync that can set the tempo for you. The loop length
200207/msg00931:Re: Mark Sottilaro's Loop Erotica contributions to LD
23: See two EDP's in hot brothersync action
43: independent EDPs without plugging and unplugging the MIDI and BrotherSync
24: >BrotherSync53: get polyrhythmic loops going, and the BrotherSync cable ensures that the
200208/msg00112:Re: input/output within old oberheim vs. new
121: regualtors). This will be between the 'brothersync' jack on the back
26: footpedal won't control them both using brothersync but shouldn't they be
58: >independent EDPs without plugging and unplugging the MIDI and BrotherSync
31: >Yes, during the 'Expect Delays' (mp3.com) days, BrotherSync used 3
63: to an incoming MIDI clock or brothersync.
19: Yes, during the 'Expect Delays' (mp3.com) days, BrotherSync used 3
42: - connect any cable to the BrotherSync input and hold the tip to some
38: - connect any cable to the BrotherSync input and hold the tip to some
3: Re: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: Re: EDP Brothersync...?19: > I know a stereo 1/4" cable is the norm for BrotherSync, but what's the
3: Re: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: Re: EDP Brothersync...?33: >1) Connect two EDP's via Brothersync43: >Brothersync compatible with one another before we all actually take
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3: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: EDP Brothersync...?21: Sync, and BrotherSync in particular, is a big blind spot for me in my24: way to get more than two BrotherSync'd at the same time?26: I know a stereo 1/4" cable is the norm for BrotherSync, but what's the31: And do things like Startsong and/or ReAlign messages work with BrotherSync?
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3: Re: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: Re: EDP Brothersync...?19: > > I know a stereo 1/4" cable is the norm for BrotherSync, but what's the
64: Re: EDP Brothersync...?, January 17, 200367: EDP Brothersync...?, January 15, 2003469: Re: EDP Brothersync...?, January 15, 2003756: RE: EDP Brothersync...?, January 16, 2003899: Re: EDP Brothersync...?, January 15, 20031188: Re: EDP Brothersync...?, January 17, 20031199: RE: EDP Brothersync...?, January 17, 20031202: Re: EDP Brothersync...?, January 17, 20031692: Re: RE: EDP Brothersync...?, January 23, 2003
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3: RE: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: RE: EDP Brothersync...?
3: RE: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: RE: EDP Brothersync...?
3: Re: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: Re: EDP Brothersync...?20: >Sync, and BrotherSync in particular, is a big blind spot for me in my23: >way to get more than two BrotherSync'd at the same time?25: >I know a stereo 1/4" cable is the norm for BrotherSync, but what's the34: >BrotherSync?
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3: Re: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: Re: EDP Brothersync...?33: 1) Connect two EDP's via Brothersync41: Brothersync compatible with one another before we all actually take the
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3: Re: RE: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: Re: RE: EDP Brothersync...?29: brothersync puts the EDPs (and hence musicians) on an
3: Re: EDP Brothersync...?10: Subject: Re: EDP Brothersync...?21: There's a brief discussion of the use of BrotherSync and ReAlign on page 3932: Subject: EDP Brothersync...?37: > Sync, and BrotherSync in particular, is a big blind spot for me in my40: > way to get more than two BrotherSync'd at the same time?42: > I know a stereo 1/4" cable is the norm for BrotherSync, but what's the48: BrotherSync?
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19: Get a second EDP and BrotherSync for your loop only output!
200302/msg00244:RE: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V03 #39
42: << Message: >> << Message: Re: EDP+ at Musician's Friend >> << Message: Re: EDP Brothersync...? >> << Message: EH 16sec. delay >> << Message: Re: EH 16sec. delay >> << Message: Re: DL-4 >> << Message: Re: DL-4 >> << Message: Re: DL-4 >> << Message: Re: DL-4 >> << Message: Re: Line 6 >> << Message: LIVE at Winter NAMM and LA party >> << Message: looking for simple live looper not based on tempo.... >> << Message: midi librian question >>
200303/msg01128:Re: Brother sync w/ new EDP software?
23: >>no. BrotherSync is bidirectional, meaning either unit can set the master26: >>BrotherSync also syncs at the sample level, so it is very tight. It also46: sync because of BrotherSync. B's loop will be 2 cycles long, with the 57: This is the idea of "BrotherSync". They all provide the sync equally as 62: how a real jam works, so BrotherSync was created to fit that dynamic.81: transparent and fluid, and that is the advantage of BrotherSync.
200303/msg01126:SV: Brother sync w/ new EDP software?
39: "no. BrotherSync is bidirectional, meaning either unit can set the44: BrotherSync also syncs at the sample level, so it is very tight. It also
200303/msg01032:Re: SV: Fading feedback (WAS: EDP problem)
55: Are you using midi sync? brothersync? overdub? InterfaceModes? Where is
31: b. you have a mono cable plugged into the BrotherSync jack32: c. you have a cable plugged into either the BrotherSync or Overdub jacks 35: e. you have a lot of things connected on BrotherSync and are using one of
200303/msg01125:Brother sync w/ new EDP software?
20: no. BrotherSync is bidirectional, meaning either unit can set the master 23: BrotherSync also syncs at the sample level, so it is very tight. It also
32: The original question was about BrotherSync type functionality possible 34: in the same way as you can sync two EDP's with BrotherSync?54: or ReAlign, BrotherSync, Multiple Loops, Sampler Triggering and delay
200303/msg01143:Re: Brother sync w/ new EDP software?
23: BrotherSync only sends sync, not commands. When you put a unit in 24: HalfSpeed, the BrotherSync pulses are also sent at half speed. A second
20: Echoplex Digital Pros and brothersync them. Or you could bid on my spare
200303/msg01129:Re: SV: Brother sync w/ new EDP software?
26: affect BrotherSync, which synchronizes units based on the cycle times.
200303/msg01132:SV: SV: Brother sync w/ new EDP software?
28: > affect BrotherSync, which synchronizes units based on the cycle times.
43: no. BrotherSync is bidirectional, meaning either unit can set the master 46: BrotherSync also syncs at the sample level, so it is very tight. It also 61: that's exactly the point of BrotherSync. It was invented because you can't 70: relationships on the fly as you can easily do with two EDP's and brothersync.
41: no. BrotherSync is bidirectional, meaning either unit can set the master 44: BrotherSync also syncs at the sample level, so it is very tight. It also 60: that's exactly the point of BrotherSync. It was invented because you can't 71: brothersync.
24: yes indeed it's 2 EDPs in stereo brothersync
22: and #2 via beatsync. 1 and 2 are synced via midi and brothersync. so
26: So we have some time and some options to BrotherSync if anyone is up to it!
36: sync= Out , for BrotherSync 2 EDPs
42: > cable in the brothersync jacks. In th default settings it will work53: > no, it shouldn't have a pop because the BrotherSync allows them to sync
25: cable in the brothersync jacks. In th default settings it will work 34: no, it shouldn't have a pop because the BrotherSync allows them to sync at
22: brothersync connection. the sync section says:23: "All Echoplexes using BrotherSync should set Sync=Out."25: but i have definitely used the brothersync connection37: note: the edps are not really in brothersync at this point,
200306/msg01010:Re: Echoplex w/drum machine question
43: brothersync connection to see how they would sync just46: (though not sample accurate like with brothersync)
35: > So we have some time and some options to BrotherSync if anyone is up to
200307/msg00763:Re: Resetting all loops on Brothersync'ed EDPs the easy way
3: Re: Resetting all loops on Brothersync'ed EDPs the easy way10: Subject: Re: Resetting all loops on Brothersync'ed EDPs the easy way21: >Supposing you've got two EDPs connected via Brothersync acting as
200307/msg00542:Re: Buy one EDP, get the 2nd for half price!
43: > the same chassis, with the BrotherSync already hooked up, possibly
200307/msg00559:Re: Buy one EDP, get the 2nd for half price!
64: > > the same chassis, with the BrotherSync already hooked up, possibly
200307/msg00540:Re: Buy one EDP, get the 2nd for half price!
24: > units inside the same chassis, with the BrotherSync already hooked up,
753: Re: Resetting all loops on Brothersync'ed EDPs the easy way, July 20, 20031605: Resetting all loops on Brothersync'ed EDPs the easy way, July 19, 2003
200307/msg00537:Re: Buy one EDP, get the 2nd for half price!
37: the same chassis, with the BrotherSync already hooked up, possibly with a
200307/msg00733:Resetting all loops on Brothersync'ed EDPs the easy way
3: Resetting all loops on Brothersync'ed EDPs the easy way10: Subject: Resetting all loops on Brothersync'ed EDPs the easy way19: Supposing you've got two EDPs connected via Brothersync acting as 32: Brothersync, it's set to Out on both machines, and I'm using an EDP
24: One thing I ran into with Brothersync was the mistake of not waiting
200308/msg00622:Re: Brother Sync of Loop Delay and Echoplex
26: I don't think that would work, since the brothersync circuit is not the
3: Re: EDP BrotherSync10: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync20: BrotherSync (sounds like you do), both EDP's should be set to "Out" for the28: Subject: EDP BrotherSync36: > second EDP to run in stereo using BrotherSync. I've44: > connecting the two BrotherSync jacks. All parameters
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3: Re: EDP BrotherSync10: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync
3: Re: EDP BrotherSync10: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync33: I have a lot more about BrotherSync in my pipe line here, but no time... 44: >second EDP to run in stereo using BrotherSync. I've52: >connecting the two BrotherSync jacks. All parameters
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3: Re: EDP BrotherSync10: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync28: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync
3: EDP BrotherSync10: Subject: EDP BrotherSync24: second EDP to run in stereo using BrotherSync. I've32: connecting the two BrotherSync jacks. All parameters
3: Re: EDP BrotherSync10: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync31: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync48: > I have a lot more about BrotherSync in my pipe line here, but no time...59: > >second EDP to run in stereo using BrotherSync. I've67: > >connecting the two BrotherSync jacks. All parameters
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255: Re: EDP BrotherSync, November 23, 2003263: Re: EDP BrotherSync, November 21, 2003314: Re: EDP BrotherSync, November 21, 2003316: Re: EDP BrotherSync, November 21, 2003438: EDP BrotherSync, November 21, 2003827: Re: EDP BrotherSync, November 23, 2003832: Re: EDP BrotherSync, November 21, 2003
3: Re: EDP BrotherSync10: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync28: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync32: > BrotherSync (sounds like you do), both EDP's should be set to "Out" for41: > Subject: EDP BrotherSync49: > > second EDP to run in stereo using BrotherSync. I've57: > > connecting the two BrotherSync jacks. All parameters
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200311/msg00303:Oakland Clinic/Gig Spam: Jon Wagner and Andre LaFosse
33: brothersync, realign, and the like... but these sorts of events are
3: Re: EDP BrotherSync10: Subject: Re: EDP BrotherSync46: > I have a lot more about BrotherSync in my pipe line here, but no58: > >second EDP to run in stereo using BrotherSync. I've66: > >connecting the two BrotherSync jacks. All parameters
299: Re: EDP BrotherSync, December 06, 2003
21: brothersync'ing them together to form a stereo pair. I'll fire up my
200405/msg00028:Re: Re: Running Two Echoplex Units in Stereo/Synced - Experiences?
20: interesting for cases of MIDI- and BrotherSync, I must say that none 29: >1) You're positive that your brothersync cable is a stereo TRS, and
200405/msg00011:Re: Running Two Echoplex Units in Stereo/Synced - Experiences?
39: two EDP and a stereo cable for the Brothersync. It's discussed here:
200405/msg00035:Re: Re: Running Two Echoplex Units in Stereo/Synced - Experiences?
46: >1) Youre positive that your brothersync cable is a126: interesting for cases of MIDI- and BrotherSync, I must138: >1) Youre positive that your brothersync cable is a
200405/msg00007:Re: Running Two Echoplex Units in Stereo/Synced - Experiences?
20: two EDP and a stereo cable for the Brothersync. It's discussed here:
200405/msg00034:Re: Re: Running Two Echoplex Units in Stereo/Synced - Experiences?
40: > interesting for cases of MIDI- and BrotherSync, I must say that none49: > >1) You're positive that your brothersync cable is a stereo TRS, and
22: phaselocked stereo Brothersync for whatever reason:
200405/msg00017:Re: Re: Running Two Echoplex Units in Stereo/Synced - Experiences?
20: 1) You're positive that your brothersync cable is a stereo TRS, and not
25: re-seating the EDP chips so that Brothersync worked properly, I'd still
200405/msg00033:Re: Re: Running Two Echoplex Units in Stereo/Synced - Experiences?
18: hi travis, hi matthias, hi others.thanks for help.If you did not buy them together....there are not so much opportunities to get two of them and to have the money...>0) Which version of the Loop software are you using?loop IV on both units>1) Youre positive that your brothersync cable is a stereo TRS, and >not a mono patchcord, right?yes it is stereo, i mean two stereo jacks and i suppose the cable is connected (what is TRS??)>2) If you use the current slave as the master and vice versa do you >have the same problem?yes i still have the problem, if i change the master /slavei have two beigefaces with different names (oberheim and gibson) the older one (oberheim as you can!21: > while I really apreciate the help of Travis and his questions are interesting for cases of MIDI- and BrotherSync, I must say that none of the questions is relevant for pure stereo use.as we hesitate to inform, not all EDP generations sync up between each other. If you did not buy them together, you may need to ask Andy for new crystals that match the present standard.so sorry...>0) Which version of the Loop software are you using?>1) Youre positive that your brothersync cable is a stereo TRS, and >not a mono patchcord, right?>2) If you use the current slave as the master and vice versa do you >have the same problem?>3) Are you spending long periods of time (several minutes) in overdub mode?>4) Whats the typical length of your loops?>5) How much is a "bit faster"? A few milliseconds? A few hundred >milliseconds.>>>>On Ma!
29: Well since you asked so nicely Matthias I'll let you ,and anyone else who cares to know ,the answers to these questions( keeping in mind the need for loop content).First off - I've been unemployed since the end off March which has left adequate time to become fairly human both physically and mentaly but the cash flow logistics suck for most pursuits,artistic or otherwise. However a month or so into this unpaid vacation my friend Bret Moreland gave me one of the infamous "Chinese" lap steels of recent LD list fame, so I've been dicking around learning and looping with it and the results are sometimes beautiful or amusing ,,or not. I fried the power supply in my synth at the same gig I got the lap steel so the choice was obvious. As a result all the recording I've done this summer has been lap steel and drum loops,just to make myself do something rather than nothing.I still just use a JamMan sometimes with a Vortex but lately not,so as to clean up the signal path for the lap steel, and I just record to MD to archive it. I'm supposed to loop and record with the other members of BrotherSync this week in pursuit of a 3rd CD's worth of trax.. we'll see what transpires there.Secondly- No I have not lurked all this time. But the scarce nature of my posts is in direct relation to my basic techno-primitve stance on looping compared to many people on the list's more technically informed workings, I have nothing of interest to add many times. Also the few times I have contributed information I know to be true and relevant to the thread in question, I've been given verbal grief by some other fleeting list member over my use of linguistics and semantics and waste of bandwidth, so why bother. If you look at my outdated LD profile you'll note that I've looped since 1978, so I aint likely to stop just cause people don't like what I do, but I have stopped inviting them to the gig.Thirdly-What is my impression? My current overwhelming impression is that these are difficult days for sensitive people and I fear for all childrens' well being in a world such as this one.But I think you mean to couple that inquiry with the nature of the list's evolution as it were...Well nothing more loving/scathing was ever posted about the nature of the LD list than the famous "Loser's Delete" post of years past, but I do have my own perspective to share.My impression of the list is that over the past 8 years there has been a steady flow of new loop hardware (mostly software) ,that is constantly re-defining what the state of the art is in looping technology.One of the results of this
32: >BrotherSync this week in pursuit of a 3rd CD's worth of trax.. we'll
200409/msg00056:Stereo EDPs and Slight Timing (I've made the recommended settings, etc)
21: 2-9 on Stereo operation and page 6-7 on BrotherSync), made those35: MIDI connection unnecessary when I'm using BrotherSync?
200409/msg00541:RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.
3: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.10: Subject: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.66: Subject: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.128: So I designed BrotherSync in a way that alows any musician to start a 138: How about a BrotherSync workshop before the shows at the Santa Cruz
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200409/msg00275:RE: Solution for Stereo EDPs and Timing Drift: Three Critical Parameter Settings
71: > >BrotherSync, Kim Flint came in to save my Friday. My final parameter
200409/msg00084:RE: Stereo EDPs and Timing Drift (I've made the recommended settings, etc)
26: - Both Units connected via a stereo 1/4" cable between the BrotherSync101: > >2-9 on Stereo operation and page 6-7 on BrotherSync), made those
200409/msg00545:RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.
3: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.10: Subject: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.25: Subject: Re: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.
200409/msg00072:Re: Stereo EDPs and Slight Timing (I've made the recommended settings, etc)
36: > BrotherSync), made those
363: Re: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias., September 27, 2004444: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias., September 27, 2004446: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias., September 27, 2004620: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias., September 27, 2004
200409/msg00276:RE: Solution for Stereo EDPs and Timing Drift: Three Critical Parameter Settings
92: > > >BrotherSync, Kim Flint came in to save my Friday. My final parameter
200409/msg00070:Re: Stereo EDPs and Slight Timing (I've made the recommended settings, etc)
22: >2-9 on Stereo operation and page 6-7 on BrotherSync), made those
200409/msg00543:Re: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.
3: Re: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.10: Subject: Re: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.
200409/msg00265:Re: Solution for Stereo EDPs and Timing Drift: Three Critical Parameter Settings
57: > >BrotherSync, Kim Flint came in to save my Friday. My final parameter
200409/msg00532:RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.
3: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.10: Subject: RE: BrotherSync and promoters with loop bias.78: So I designed BrotherSync in a way that alows any musician to start a 88: How about a BrotherSync workshop before the shows at the Santa Cruz
200409/msg00254:Re: Solution for Stereo EDPs and Timing Drift: Three Critical Parameter Settings
43: >BrotherSync, Kim Flint came in to save my Friday. My final parameter
200409/msg00157:Solution for Stereo EDPs and Timing Drift: Three Critical Parameter Settings
28: After struggling with getting my two new EDPs to sync in stereo via BrotherSync, Kim Flint came in to save my Friday. My final parameter settings are below, and I've noted the setting that did the trick in addition to what is recommended in the manual.
29: >- Both Units connected via a stereo 1/4" cable between the BrotherSync73: In the meantime, if you need a workaround forget the brothersync, and
200409/msg00076:Re: Stereo EDPs and Slight Timing (I've made the recommended settings, etc)
53: > > BrotherSync), made those
23: Is there some other sync method? Is the BrotherSync really the best
23: > Is there some other sync method? Is the BrotherSync really the best 34: > Is the BrotherSync really the best unit?
36: and it becomes worse when hot or when in BrotherSync.
200505/msg00563:Re: Free Looper coming with Tiger!
269: > (sort of like using BrotherSync in the echoplex?) If so, what sort
200505/msg00551:Re: Free Looper coming with Tiger!
167: BrotherSync in the echoplex?) If so, what sort of flexibility is there for
200507/msg00128:RE: Troubleshooting my EDPs and FCB....Again (factory reset guidance)
46: slave [and with the brothersync].)
200507/msg00127:RE: Troubleshooting my EDPs and FCB....Again (factory reset guidance)
24: the "in" of the slave [and with the brothersync].)
27: due to the phantastic BrotherSync sample level sync construction and
200602/msg00269:Re: Syncing Two EDPs - having problems
36: > I am using brothersync but when I loop a short45: > brothersync and I'm
200602/msg00278:Re: Syncing Two EDPs - having problems -SOLVED!!
55: >> I am using brothersync but when I loop a short64: >> brothersync and I'm
200602/msg00265:Syncing Two EDPs - having problems
25: I am using brothersync but when I loop a short section (Ex: one note 33: According to the manual, a midi clock overrides the brothersync and I'm
200606/msg00524:Re: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
22: >I've got a typical stereo Plex setup (midi and brotherSync connections
200606/msg00552:RE: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
59: No, BrotherSync is always active whichever way you do this. The 60: BrotherSync 64: and you should keep BrotherSync connected for any of the strategies you
200606/msg00463:Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
23: I've got a typical stereo Plex setup (midi and brotherSync connections
200606/msg00465:Re: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
31: > brotherSync connections between
200606/msg00554:RE: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
73: > No, BrotherSync is always active whichever way you74: > do this. The BrotherSync 79: > and you should keep BrotherSync connected for any of
200606/msg00471:Re: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
88: > I've got a typical stereo Plex setup (midi and brotherSync connections
200606/msg00498:Re: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
115: >> I've got a typical stereo Plex setup (midi and brotherSync connections
30: >each pair together with BrotherSync.77: >could be connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to set
25: that's not correct. A BrotherSync'd Echoplex pair can sync to incoming
26: >that's not correct. A BrotherSync'd Echoplex pair can sync to
41: > each pair together with BrotherSync.56: > be connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to set the
36: no, that's what you are supposed to do. BrotherSync works just fine with 45: >>connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to set the tempo 56: BrotherSync part for jamming with multiple echoplexes should work fine.
40: "All Echoplexes using Brothersync should set Sync=Out"44: "Sync=In should not be used for BrotherSync"57: >no, that's what you are supposed to do. BrotherSync works just fine 68: Would the Midi-sync override the BrotherSync?83: >>>could be connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to 98: >The BrotherSync part for jamming with multiple echoplexes should work
29: pair together with BrotherSync.45: connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to set the tempo for
57: >Normally you would use BrotherSync to synchronize Echoplexes since
33: Normally you would use BrotherSync to synchronize Echoplexes since it is
200704/msg00629:Gibson and Oberheim Echoplex compatible?
21: have V4 installed, right?), can they be synced up via BrotherSync?
26: I have the stereo cable (brothersync) of the first splitted into 2
19: with three EDPs, BrotherSync should work, Rayn!42: > always flawless. Now I have the stereo cable (brothersync) of the
34: BrotherSync Y cable and 3 black EDP's it worked 28 times out of 30
200711/msg00190:Re: Good Names for LoopFunctions (was: FlyLoops and electronic instruments)
18: Aaron said:I am certainly no mobius expert .. so perhaps you can help me through this.me neither, but mobius started as a multiple EDP, as SooperLooper and others... so I started some kind of a standard, which had contributions by Eric Obermuehlner, Rolf Spuler, Keith McMillan, Kim Flint, Andy Butler and others for the EDP, then from creators of other looping units and now you...As you see, this is the first discussion that comes up if an experienced looper like Kris wants to know what you have under the hood, so you triggered a good movement:** It helps the users and the idea, if similar functions have the same understandable short Name in all tools **... and this list is probably the best place to figure them out! INITIAL LOOP:Both flyloops and mobius (I think) get their timing from an intial recordedloop ... the "master". All others are synced to that, or not ... whichbrings us to .....SYNCING:I am not sure what polyrythmic is on the looping comparison chart .. but Ibet we have the same idea here. All loops in flyloops can be recorded as:- full sync - meaning start/stop recording only at the masters loop boundary.. so all loops start/stop with the master, and are a multiple of the masterloops lengthIn the EDP we called this Quantized (Record, Multiply...), which is maybe not so ideal, since we might end up quantizing the sound to the loop one day...Full Sync does not convince me though, because what you call Partial Sync is also fully synced, in technical and musical terms. Two loops of different lenght which coincide again somewhen in the future are synced. Ljubo Majstorovic implemented such a Sync function where you have to record the second loop pretty accurately because it rounds very little, so this may be the best use of the name Sync!So if you dont like Quantized, maybe we find a more musical expression like "on the beat"?- partial sync - start recording whenever I tap in, but when I tap out ..wait until the loop is some multiple of the masters length ... so all loopsare a multiple of the length ... but will start/stop only at a particularoffset to the master.we spoke about Rounding, which hits the nail better, I think- No sync - just start and stop when I tap ... so the loop can be anylength, and will not sync to the master.some call this Free(running) or UnsyncedTAP TEMPO:Mobius does this ... Flyloops will, once pitch/tempo shift is complete.is this to change the tempo later or to preset it? the EDP has a Tempo function for preset (PBPM reference) but only the Repeater made it adaptable...MULTIPLY/ OVERWRITE: same, I thinkIs Overwrite the same as Replace? or Substitute? ADD: maybe Append whould be a better term ... add materialto the end of a loop ... increasing its length ....Per:Cool, so not like Multiply which extends the original length of the loop, but while overdubbing new material over the top.aparently what was called Insert in the EDP - not many used it...STACK: Flyloops lets you stack on loops individually ... with whateverdecay you wish ... I imagine mobius is the same.ok, shorter and just as clear as Overdub...MUTE (this was called BREAK in the LOOP delay, Keith renamed it):(1) have the loop run still in sync according to the general music time-line, (2) start exactly where it was muted (as in "pause") or (3) start from the beginning (given the un-mute action happens on the set quantize point).Yeah .... same deal with flyloops ....1) I call mute2) pause3) on/offhm... on/off is valid for any switch, so it does not help.I suggest:1 Mute2 Pause3 Restart (I dont think that anybody will want to restart while leaving the loop muted)the EDP had only option 1 and 3 as MuteModes STA and RUN or so (less nice)Also ... you should be able to just play from the beginning at an arbitrarystarting point ..... such as the "one shot" on the RC-50. thats playing once only, I suppose? The EDP had that as PlayOnce or so, OneShot is better (even if more aggressive ;-)CONSOLIDATE: consolidate loops ... select three and make them one. I don’tknow if mobius does this .... ?others call this Bounce or Merge, which is shorter...EXTERNAL SYNCING:flyloops doesn't do this ... though once it is rewire compatible it shouldby able to sync to internal sources. And .... you could set up an externalsource to trigger the rec button ... so sync that way .... but you could NOTtrack to an external drum machine as you changed tempo for example.we had long looped explanations on this list about Initial Sync vs Continuous Syncafter triggering the rec button, the loops still run away from each other!GROUP LOOPING:Technically, BrotherSync is very different but the idea is the same: allow several musicians to play together in the same groove. Very important, I think, my main motivation to start a loop machine. Looping should not isolate people but help them to find the others tempo and stay with it. You call it Group thinking of several musicians, I suppose. But you also use Group for the linking of several tracks. Or should we call that Link?BrotherLooping would be nicer than Group... or Band, Gathering, Meeting whatever...MASTERThe Brother idea was to abolish Slavery and Masters. But once the first brother starts, he becomes master. the others are not slaves, because they can choose to sync or stay free. So it would be rather like BigBrother - SmallBrother or Master - Disciple... A good tool allows the users to switch master easily (which is not so for wisdom transfer ;-) so......then again, Master may be just what people understand and has been used so far...Per said:Just a short note: In Mobius you do not group "loops" but "tracks". Each track can stack a bunch of loops but only play back one at a time. So in order to play back in parallel loops has to be recorded on different tracks. I think this is very user-friendly too, because then you can dedicate tracks for certain melody instrument and record each instrument's "verse", "chorus" or "bridge" as "loop 1", "loop 2" or "loop 3". If you then make a percussion loop on a different track and don't group it, the percussion loop will keep playing while all grouped tracks will change between different song parts.I find Track clear, but not Loop. We started calling the first recording Cycle and the maximal multiple of it Loop, but I dont like it any more. Loop means so many things already that we should not use it for any specific part of the tool. Cycle is ok, but not brilliant. The EDPs NextLoop is not very good either. But its hard to find a name apart from Loop or Sample, so I think it has to be some XxxLoop like BULoop or SavedLoop or OldLoop...Per again:ahh... you mean like "the two loops sticking together"? thats a new function I have not seen yet!maybe Join or Glue or Merge or what?
61: > I have the stereo cable (brothersync) of the first
21: > with three EDPs, BrotherSync should work, Rayn!
32: > with three EDPs, BrotherSync should work, Rayn!64: > (brothersync) of the
53: > BrotherSync Y cable and 3 black EDP's it worked 28 times out of 30 62: >> with three EDPs, BrotherSync should work, Rayn!
23: That's the best news so far. I've been also trying to mix BrotherSync 78: >> BrotherSync Y cable and 3 black EDP's it worked 28 times out of 30 87: >>> with three EDPs, BrotherSync should work, Rayn!
200805/msg00126:Independent direct loop access on two EDP's-->what note values to use?
18: Recently I've set up two EDP's in the same rack to allow them to sync to each other via BrotherSync, but function as two independent audio "tracks", as opposed to a linked stereo pair. I'm controlling the two via an FCB, and everything's going okay so far except when I try to access a loop directly via MIDI loop triggers. I have the control source for EDP1 set to 36 and EDP2 set to 89 and I want to be able to hop around from loop 1 to loop 3 with one button press, and more importantly take advantage of the ability to trigger a clearing of the destination loop and activate LoopCopy of the current loop.
18: The EDP Brothersync was designed to allow a variety of connection scenarios, and not necessarily enforce a fixed master/slave relationship. If you have multiple EDP's connected, you have to make a few decisions about the intended sync scenario.
200806/msg00517:Re: Echoplex died....NOOOO! Pleassse help.
18: Standard troubleshooting for EDP weirdness is to unplug everything and reseat the memory SIMMS and check that the EPROMS haven't wiggled loose. Then reconnect only the power cord (no MIDI, no brothersync, etc.), then try to power up. There's also a reset to factory defaults button combination at startup that I can't recall off the top of my head, but it's in the manual and the LD Tools page.
200809/msg00726:Re: AW: The ethics of software emulations?
49: It seems to me that I invented Record, Multiply, Undo, BrotherSync...
22: BrotherSync was really meant to turn into a HeartSync and you showed 24: HeartSync can be huge even without BrotherSync... :-)
200812/msg00530:Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context.....what gear do u use?
35: > > EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.
200812/msg00454:Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context
40: One of the main reason to build the LOOP delay (which turned into the EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.
200812/msg00445:Brother and Sister Sync (still about Live Looping in an ensemble context)
20: we were talking about ensembles: There was a band called BrotherSync, a full EDP band!Bret was on this list between 1996 and 2002, I dont know what happened since. In september 2002 he said, when Cara Quinn joined the band:Now that CQ is recording with us a name change may be28: another language limit... I was so proud of the BrotherSync
18: I do a lot of that with one EDP holding a static loop, and then the second brothersync'ed set to one or two repeats. I wish there was a way to make it automatically reverse at the end of each cycle so I don't have to keep hitting the INS pedal.
200812/msg00441:Hints for Sync (still about Live Looping in an ensemble context)
31: I wrote this in July 04, mostly about BrotherSync but also interesting 48: So please give me a BrotherSync or at least a MIDI clock when we play, 56: BrotherSync, you don't even need to care since its default comes right 118: If you sync two EDPs by BrotherSync and use the MIDIclock-Out of one
200812/msg00440:Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context
24: EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.
200812/msg00457:buying new comp - RAM, CPU or HD upgrade?
104: (which turned into the EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.I did the
200812/msg00470:Re: buying new comp - RAM, CPU or HD upgrade?
154: (which turned into the EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.I did the
200812/msg00452:Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context
46: > EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.
200812/msg00458:Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context.....what gear do u use?
60: > EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.
200812/msg00455:Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context
106: (which turned into the EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.I did the
200812/msg00444:Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context
24: > EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.
200902/msg00010:Re: Hints at multi -plexing Re-visited..
28: wrong with brothersync.
200902/msg00012:Re: Hints at multi -plexing Re-visited..
28: if it's only 2 edps, and you're not attempting stereo then not much can go wrong with brothersync.
18: TRS cable, right?Both units work fine with no MIDI/Brothersync?What about Brothersync connected bit no MIDI?On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
39: What might happen is that the brothersync won't lock up between the 2
86: the one possible caveat is that BrotherSync isn't 100% reliable
201003/msg00940:Re: How to use two Lexicon jamman together
22: >(as they are with the EDPs BrotherSync). After each loop end, you would
201003/msg00926:Re: How to use two Lexicon jamman together
20: not be in phase (as they are with the EDPs BrotherSync). After each loop
201003/msg00929:Re: How to use two Lexicon jamman together
27: > would not be in phase (as they are with the EDPs BrotherSync). After
18: the EDPP passed the CE test to be sold in Europeit has some better parts (gold connectors, better buttons)the crystals are better tolerated, so we can grant Brothersync between themthe rest is the sameOn 27 Apr 2010, at 04:04, Clifford Novey wrote:Can someone tell me the main hardware differences of the EDP from the EDPP? I am curious if anything major changed like surface mount components, etc. Thanks- and pics would be great of the guts if anyone has one.
23: the EDPP passed the CE test to be sold in Europeit has some better parts (gold connectors, better buttons)the crystals are better tolerated, so we can grant Brothersync between themthe rest is the sameOn 27 Apr 2010, at 04:04, Clifford Novey wrote:Can someone tell me the main hardware differences of the EDP from the EDPP? I am curious if anything major changed like surface mount components, etc. Thanks- and pics would be great of the guts if anyone has one.
24: to garantee BrotherSync
51: If they're out in any way, their brothersync pulses don't
21: thanks again guys... gonna have a play tonight see what happens!!!> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 14:55:27 +0100> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: 3 x edp sync issue> > phillip wilson wrote:> > > > > Andy / Loaf - interesting points you raise- i always thought that the > > whole point of brother sync is that it locks the edps together "on a > > sample level" to quoteth the manual...is this hyperbole ?> > > > well, yes and no.> The sample clocking rates of the edps are locked together> ....but...> the edp works in blocks of 64 samples, and those blocks> aren't locked by brothersync.> > I use 2 edps in stereo, and do a lot of nextlooping,> ...so the phase relationship keeps changing, producing> a haas effect pan which can vary with the different layers.> > > > Also, there's midi delay when you chain edps.> Sometimes the 2 don't get the exact same loop length,> and so sample exact sync just drifts gradually out of time.> > I've never tried Beat sync...it does work "both ways".> > In your scenario, you could leave 1 and 3 brothered,> and link up 2 to 1 by BeatSync.> > andy > Get a free e-mail account with Hotmail. Sign-up now.
47: If they're out in any way, their brothersync pulses don't
31: aren't locked by brothersync.
54: If they're out in any way, their brothersync pulses don't
201101/msg00401:Re: MPC 1000 & 2 EDP+ loosing sync
47: MIDI ports. (With the EDP's Sync=In, the BrotherSync is ignored. The 134: for brothersync to work they both had to be set to Sync=Out, and that if 151: can't drive the EDP's with a sequencer and have BrotherSync active at the
201101/msg00403:Re: MPC 1000 & 2 EDP+ loosing sync
54: (take out the BrotherSync cable)
27: "Multitracking" and BrotherSync33: In Bidule, BrotherSync is possible. Its just clumsy, because after
60: it even can simulate the BrotherSync situation where the first that sends
201205/msg00065:Re: Why NOT Looping has been good for me.
20: (Echoplex) was BrotherSync!
201205/msg00066:RE: Why NOT Looping has been good for me.
21: Exactly!Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk> > LOOP TOGETHER!> I keep repeating that the main motivation to create the LOOP delay (Echoplex) was BrotherSync!> I felt then and always felt since, that we need to play together and once sync is working, looping together is a fantastic experience! since the loop guides, but its our own creation, its much easier to find the common base and play together. similar to playing alone, there is much less "stress" to keep the sound going, we have more time to watch the partner play and feel our answer to it…> > some of my best recordings happened on a single t.c. 2290 - two people playing into it!> now with multitrack loopers and laptop its much easier...> > On 07 May 2012, at 4:06 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote:> > > I guess the looping experience isn't "unreal". But it's a bit like the whole social life in the Web 2.0 era: We don't hang out with friends anymore, we socialize on the internet with "virtual friends". Likewise, we perform "virtual music" by ourselves - even with virtual instruments!>
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3: EDP beatsync and brothersync10: Subject: EDP beatsync and brothersync18: I'm not exactly clear from the manual whether it is possible to use beatsync and brother sync at the same time.I'm thinking of taking one of the individual outs from an 808 into the beatsync jack and using that EDP as the master for a pair of EDPs (brothersync'd in stereo)
3: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync10: Subject: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync24: I'm thinking of taking one of the individual outs from an 808 into the beatsync jack and using that EDP as the master for a pair of EDPs (brothersync'd in stereo)
3: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync10: Subject: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync37: > (brothersync'd in stereo)
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3: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync10: Subject: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync24: I'm thinking of taking one of the individual outs from an 808 into the beatsync jack and using that EDP as the master for a pair of EDPs (brothersync'd in stereo)
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3: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync10: Subject: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync37: > and then hoping the other EDP will follow by Brothersync.54: >> (brothersync'd in stereo)
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3: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync10: Subject: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync25: and then hoping the other EDP will follow by Brothersync.43: (brothersync'd in stereo)
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3: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync10: Subject: Re: EDP beatsync and brothersync51: >> (brothersync'd in stereo)
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201302/msg00170:Re: Using the standard EDP pedal with 2 EDPs
28: It doesn't happen via brothersync.
201302/msg00171:Re: Using the standard EDP pedal with 2 EDPs
28: It doesn't happen via brothersync.OK---
201412/msg00035:Re: post your issues with loop machines
52: > Boomerang 3 . Use of term "Brothersync" is misleading. The term was
201412/msg00036:Re: post your issues with loop machines
84: Boomerang 3 . Use of term "Brothersync" is misleading. The term was coined
201412/msg00033:Re: post your issues with loop machines
42: Boomerang 3 . Use of term "Brothersync" is misleading. The term was coined
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