I didn't mean you in particular Mark, I'm new to this mailing list business. So without mentioning any names, or quoting anyone, what I meant was: I see a lot of jealousy, insecurities, hatred towards other people, who are more successful than you. Perhaps even worse musicians, but way better at giving audiences what they want/something they find interesting enough to wanna share with their friends (and share on a mailing list). This guy is a "like", "share", "subscribe", "click on my ads" kind of guy. He thrives on that - good for him. Doesn't mean you have to do the same, just respect the fact that he's successful in doing what he's doing. (And no, I'm not a fan of his btw.) I mean, it's not like this guy is a phony or a con artist. I'm sure he works hard with what he's got. He probably realized that he's not a super-musician, and learned to draw on other skills. Bashing creativity, entertainment, and quite frankly something that you, unless you pull the same kind of views or at least returning subscribers, have no clue how to do yourselves - then I think trolling is the appropriate word for it. I went to a Reggie Watts concert recently here in Copenhagen. And this by passer comment from another Danish guy that attended the show, stuck in my head ever since; "it's just sad that he spends so much time goofing around and not taking it seriously, (in reality) he's a great musician, but he choses to rely on comedy".... Now this relates back to that youtube video, and you guys that think you're all that in terms of you music skills and looping magic: to each his own, theres a place for everything, there are new forms of show business, there are talented musicians/artists/entertainers who choose to wrap their talents in different paper than you and your neighbor etc. I could say a lot of horrible things about some of you guys music on this mailing list, tell you how crappy your atmospheric sea of infinite weirdo sounds and noises are nothing but a gimmick drowned in effects, delays and reverbs to hide the fact, that your musical talents just don't add up. But I won't, because I'm not a teenager anymore.