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Re: 3 million hits with livelooping

Far better said than my message yesterday.

And of course since without enough coffee I can't just leave it at that... 

Probably for as long as I've been on this list — been around musicians? — 
I've seen people apply a definition of art that allows them to feel 
superior(?) to others, but then also resentful of their success. 
Entertaining the audience isn't valued as art though it is what the 
audience values and it is the audience that we are asking to part with 
their time, attention, and money.

Saying this is not to denigrate the work of people who don't pursue 
audience entertainment. But don't bash people who do manage to entertain 
an audience and reap the rewards of doing so. That isn't easy either.

It is, however, quite reasonable to say "Clearly based on response this is 
appealing to a lot of people, but from a looping perspective, while it's 
interesting to see live looping show up in something this popular, the 
actual looping doesn't seem all that interesting."


On Apr 27, 2012, at 5:25 AM, Torben Scharling wrote:

> I didn't mean you in particular Mark, I'm new to this mailing list 
> business.
> So without mentioning any names, or quoting anyone, what I meant was:
> I see a lot of jealousy, insecurities, hatred towards other people, who 
> are more successful than you. Perhaps even worse musicians, but way 
> better at giving audiences what they want/something they find 
> interesting enough to wanna share with their friends (and share on a 
> mailing list).
> This guy is a "like", "share", "subscribe", "click on my ads" kind of 
> guy. He thrives on that - good for him. Doesn't mean you have to do the 
> same, just respect the fact that he's successful in doing what he's 
> doing. (And no, I'm not a fan of his btw.)
> I mean, it's not like this guy is a phony or a con artist. I'm sure he 
> works hard with what he's got. He probably realized that he's not a 
> super-musician, and learned to draw on other skills. 
> Bashing creativity, entertainment, and quite frankly something that you, 
> unless you pull the same kind of views or at least returning 
> subscribers, have no clue how to do yourselves - then I think trolling 
> is the appropriate word for it.
> I went to a Reggie Watts concert recently here in Copenhagen. And this 
> by passer comment from another Danish guy that attended the show, stuck 
> in my head ever since; "it's just sad that he spends so much time 
> goofing around and not taking it seriously, (in reality) he's a great 
> musician, but he choses to rely on comedy"....
> Now this relates back to that youtube video, and you guys that think 
> you're all that in terms of you music skills and looping magic: to each 
> his own, theres a place for everything, there are new forms of show 
> business, there are talented musicians/artists/entertainers who choose 
> to wrap their talents in different paper than you and your neighbor etc.
> I could say a lot of horrible things about some of you guys music on 
> this mailing list, tell you how crappy your atmospheric sea of infinite 
> weirdo sounds and noises are nothing but a gimmick drowned in effects, 
> delays and  reverbs to hide the fact, that your musical talents just 
> don't add up. But I won't, because I'm not a teenager anymore.