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Re: Upwards pitch shift (Was Re: qualities of reverb OT)

highhorse@mhorse.com wrote:
> I'm disappointed to hear this. One of the wishes I've never gotten 
> around to fulfilling is a good clean octave-up effect. I especially like 
> the Henry Kaiser/Nels Cline trick of shifting up an octave, then 
> rhythmically bypassing the effect. I don't know what Henry Kaiser used, 
> but I saw video of him doing it in the early 80's so I'm guessing an 
> Eventide.

HK uses a delay with square wave modulation on the time.
(it was discussed here just after y2k7)

> Nels uses one of the original Digitech Whammies, which seems 
> to track very well (and he plays so fast it'd be obvious if there was a 
> lag),

Speed of playing isn't affected by lag.
(just accuracy of timing)

> but they're very pricey and bulky, so I was hoping the microPOG 
> would fit the bill. So is there actually some delay in the octave up? 

it's not possible to do real time up-shift without some lag.

> And it's unusably flat...?

it *is* a bit flat,
whether it works for you only you can decide.

why not check out the Youtube videos.

I'd also dispute their claim that it's polyphonic.
On simple (rock) chords it works, but on complex chords
it's nasty sounding.

The sub-octave tracking for single note lines is superb, however,
with no delay and good intonation.

andy butler

> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> Generally the harmoniser type effects introduce too much delay to be
>> good for basslines,
>> only harmoniser I've heard that tracks without delay is in the new
>> ElectroHarmonix stuff,
>> the POG, microPOG and HOG, but thought the sound was a bit wierd, and
>> the pitch up was so flat it was unusable.
>> (it's not possible to do pitch shift up without some delay, but pitch
>> down is possible)
>> andy