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Re: OT: thoughts on music and cooking
I like to drink beer while cooking, and drink wine while eating. I'm still not quite sure what to drink while making beer...
On 6/7/07, Josh Carroll
Unless, that is, the cooking is done around the grill, in which case
a good beer should be substituted.
On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:06 PM, aaron leese wrote:
> Yeah, me too ..... though I need to interject that for proper
> improvisational cooking, one must have a bottle of wine.
>> From: "Tony K" <email@example.com>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: Re: OT: thoughts on music and cooking
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:04:35 -0400
>> It makes complete sense to me. I too love to cook. But, I have a
>> approach. I approach cooking in much the same way I do making
>> music. I
>> just make it up as I go along. I grew up in an Italian family, my
>> grandmother(s) just showed me how to make things. A very few
>> thins there
>> were recipes for, but for the most part, it was just experience.
>> I have a
>> general idea of what I want (the basics), then I just start
>> throwing things
>> in. So, my cooking and my music are never the same twice, but
>> always an
>> adventure. :) Sometimes things fail miserably, you know like when I
>> accidentally put caraway seed in spaghetti sauce. not good. And
>> it's a gem.
>> On 6/7/07, Josh Carroll <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>> In addition to creating music, I also like to cook. I especially
>>> like to
>>> making (or rather, attempting to make) sauces.
>>> A few years ago I set out to make the perfect salsa. It took me
>>> a few
>>> tries, but pretty quickly I came up with a recipe that embodied
>>> what I think
>>> salsa should taste like. All my friends love it too. I usually
>>> make it a
>>> little thinner and milder than I would personally prefer, but I'm
>>> happy with the flavor, and I feel like it has something unique
>>> about it; a
>>> little bit of myself expressed in a sauce.
>>> This year I decided that my previous recipe was too complicated,
>>> so I set
>>> out to create a new recipe with half the ingredients. I nailed
>>> it on my
>>> first try, and honestly I think the simpler recipe tastes better
>>> (though a
>>> couple of my friends would argue with me).
>>> However, I've also been trying to come up with a barbecue sauce
>>> that embodies all I love about barbecue for a few years now, and
>>> dozens of tries, I'm about ready to give up. Everything I make
>>> sucks, and
>>> while a couple of my friends are nice enough to eat my
>>> experiments, I know
>>> it's never very good.
>>> I think there are several reasons for the difference in success
>>> rates, but
>>> perhaps the most important is this: I have an exact idea of the
>>> way I think
>>> salsa should taste, and I'm familiar enough with the ingredients
>>> to make
>>> that happen pretty much every time I make it (a few flops
>>> excepted). But
>>> when it comes to barbecue sauce, I've tasted so many different
>>> sauces that I loved, from thin and vinegary to thick and sweet,
>>> brassy, smokey, tart, etc. that it's nearly impossible for me to
>>> envision a
>>> sauce that captures my favorite things about each. Furthermore,
>>> there are
>>> so many possibilities for different ingredients that I'm just not as
>>> familiar with, that when I taste a half-finished sauce and think
>>> "hmm... it
>>> needs a little of that sweet flavor from Sharon's house sauce,"
>>> I'm left
>>> guessing at how to make that happen.
>>> All of that to say, I look at a lot of you guys (and groups like The
>>> Books, Sigur Ros, etc.), and it at least appears that your
>>> efforts at making
>>> music flow the way salsa-making does for me. You know exactly
>>> what you're
>>> going for, and you stick with it. Even when it takes a
>>> surprising turn, it
>>> still turns out great. And I've watched with envy as several of
>>> you have
>>> sold-off gear and simplified your sets (stripped out half of the
>>> ingredients) and come up with a new recipe that's even more
>>> profound and
>>> satisfying that what you did at first.
>>> But lately, making music has felt like trying to make the perfect
>>> sauce to me. I have so many diverse influences and sounds in my
>>> head that I
>>> want to combine, and I have all this technology at my fingertips
>>> that I'm
>>> just not as familiar with as I would like to be, that I feel
>>> overwhelmed by
>>> the endeavor. And everything I have come up with so far is just not
>>> satisfying to me.
>>> And I'd like at least a few people to think it's good too, but
>>> right now
>>> the artists I'm hearing who come closest (check out
http://www.myspace.com/sonlux for one example) are too much of a
>>> for even my most musically inclined friends.
>>> Has anyone else been here, or am I even making sense? Any words of
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