At 9:38 AM -0800 12/25/05, David Coffin wrote: > >Yup; the 88 is NOT an added-features version of the 8; that was the >8ex; Roland did update the 8, and have also updated the 88, but they >remain very different implementations of the basic idea, with NO way >to exactly duplicate any of the synth (or other) sounds from one to >the other, altho in some cases you might come close, esp. with the >basic guitar sounds. There are a few nominally similar models in >each, but by the time you've added FX (VERY different FX on each >piece) or the pitch-shifting, they're chalk and cheese. Thanks for clarifying that, David. I'm now thinking that the original 8 (or, more correctly, an S-1 or EX) is really more in line with what I'm looking for. >>Can you do the pedal crossfades you mentioned using a MIDI >>Controller, or do you have to use an external expression pedal (I'm >>assuming probably an EV-5)? > >Good question; I always use an EV, and haven't explored the MIDI >options. But they aren't too deep as I recall. Just went through the MIDI Implementation Chart (p. 144) in the manual. Yipes! I didn't realize it would be quite so limited. Aside from SysEx, it only really deals with Bank Select and Program Change messages. Well, I'm ending up with more & more stuff creeping onto the floor. I guess one more expression pedal ain't really gonna hurt nothin'.... :P >>Finally, can the original VG-8 do the polyphonic "slow gear" effect? > >Nope; that's an 88 trick. Drat! That's the one algorithm I was really hopeful for. Oh well, I've got one of the WP-20g's with which I can do that effect. I was just hoping I might be able to consolidate two devices into one. >The "hum" problem is a nasty situation that can arise when linking >an 8 and an 88 with Roland's US-20 ABY switcher; this may have been >fixed in currently shipping versions, but I can't confirm. Sounds like I may need to post that particular question to the Yahoo Group. I'm also curious if that bug is peculiar to just using the 8 & 88 used together, or if I might run into it using the VG-8 with the WP-20g. Probably ought to instead consider the GKP-4 parallel box, anyway. >There's no question that the 88 has some very cool synth and FX >features, but if that's what you're going for, instead of a variax >in a box, get an 8ex. You won't regret it:) Even if there's an 888 >at the next NAMM... Thanks again for all the helpful advice!!! :) --m. -- _______ "No more building up; it is time to dissolve..."