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Re: Samples and looping
Which version did Elvis fall in love with?
>so true, that it is a straw man argument. of course, lieber had no
>reason to remember it any differently, i'm sure, since
>lieber/stoller have successfully sued for copyright infringement
>more than any other songwriting team. and actually, elvis fell in
>love with a completely different version of the song than the
>original.
>
>time
>
>> Re: Samples and looping
>> Well, well, well..! There's a straw man
>> argument wrapped in
>> an ad homenim attack... nobody is 'rewriting music
>> history' or
>> 'glossing over' anything... Jerry Lieber told me
>> what I wrote here (on
>> this very small mailing list) after dinner one
>> day.
>> I'm sure that your 'music lore' account
>> has some truth to it, but
>> I wasn't there so I can't say for sure.
>>
>>
>> hound dog was written by
>> lieber and
>> stoller by substituting the word "hound dog" for
>> the
>> original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the
>> big mama
>> thorton original. otherwise, the chords, melody,
>> arrangement and
>> majority of the rest of the words are as she wrote
>> it. this is
>> an acknowledged part of music lore, just as pat boone made
>> a whole
>> career out of re-recording tracks from "race
>> records" of the
>> time and releasing them weeks after their original release
>> to
>> thunderous approval on the "white charts."
>> to gloss
>> over this unfortunate chapter of music history by
>> attempting to
>> rewrite it is disgraceful.
>>
>>
>>
>> time
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky
>> <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
>>
>> > Subject: Re: Samples and looping
>>
>> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>> > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller
>> who
>>
>> > also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis
>> heard that
>>
>> > and loved it. He re-recorded it. Lieber and
>> Stoller
>>
>> > still got their royalties. :)
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects
>>
>> > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he
>> believes
>>
>> > the law should say -- the composer gets paid by
>> whoever
>>
>> > commissioned the work and after that it's fair
>> game. So, in
>>
>> > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with
>> Big Mama
>>
>> > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world,
>> Elvis owes
>>
>> > nothing for using the song. (If I've
>> mischaracterized the
>>
>> > positions, I apologize.)
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > > Mark
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > -- ...
>>
>> > http://www.zmix.net
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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