I encountered the edge of this after getting to the UK. At first I thought on the level of "Show producers etc. must think that, because their sounds are all samples and disks, the reliability factor is predictable, and must therefore appeal to them in a bizarre 'accountant' kind of way." I've also been interested in collaboration with a DJ, but have encountered nothing but dead air in response, and in one case was bumped from a line-up in favor of a DJ. In the UK the DJs RULE the rave/party scene. I wondered at first whether this wasn't a "mafia effect" of some kind, actually. Over time though I've begun to wonder whether it's the aspect of being center stage with no company there that's the most important factor. Don't take this wrong, spinners, let me explain. Those of us that play INSTRUMENTS typically can do so solo, I know *I* do - but in lots of cases as we "grew up" into our playing, there were tons of instances of playing music WITH others. I came to think of collaborative performance as not only positive energy shared, a great way to learn more about my own playing, and a great way to learn how to play with others. If one is a DJ does any of the above ever occur as a consequence of either learning how to DJ or just watching others do their work, undoubtedly it further embeds the idea of such totally solo work. I find this highly unfortunate, not just because I'm kept out of such scenarios, and not just because there may be an entire listening group that never hears live playing, but rather DJ-borne samples/etc - but also because this is a direction in which DJing could actually branch out or expand past its apparently finite boundaries. This last is to me part of playing music, this kind of extending past the norm. Is this lost then? Or has it been translated into "What new gear/tech/box can I get?" And is this a good thing? I shudder to think of it. Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19! * "Hitchhiker's Lament premieres TONIGHT!"