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RE: R8/R5 Human Rhythm Composers

Great info. Thanks.

I didn't know that about Steve Tibbetts.  I know Marc Anderson used an 
Octopad (who hasn't?) to trigger drum tones/loops when I saw Steve and 
play Tibbets' stuff live with Dean MacGraw and Jim Anton.  I think my jaw 
was permanently cracked from where it hit the floor when they launched 
into Name Everything at the beginning of the set. ahhh memories . . .

I'd be interested in building patterns live on something like an R5 from a 
Ztar, but I would prefer to use outboard sounds on a sampler (latency 
*sigh*) and minimize the gymnastics involved switching patterns, 
recording/overdubbing, etc.

Offand I could try one or both of these:

Approach one, configure some of the pads on the ztar to send sysex, 
than footswitches maybe

Approach two, for less impromptu pieces, automate the overall 'schema' of 
the percussion parts as it were (sans notes).

More ideas?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Madson" <crash@waste.org>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 5:24 PM
Subject: R8/R5 Human Rhythm Composers

>You can do a lot with the Roland Human Rhythm composers.
>Besides realistic percussion performances, you can run the output
>thru a vortex and generate really cool counter-rhythms using the
>tap tempo to perform on the beat or askew polyrhythms.
>But for MIDI purposes, you can program a bank of pads so that the
>pads generate a different MIDI note on to trigger an external MIDI
>device or sampler.
>I actually use the internal voices as well as the MIDI out to
>trigger synths and other gear.
>Since these drum machines have separate outs for various sounds,
>and since the R5 has several bass samples which can be tuned, I've
>directed the bass samples to one or two particular outputs, tuned
>them up two octaves and then processed and looped them.  It sounds
>like no other synth I've ever heard.
>I hear Steve Tibbets supposedly used an R8 to trigger samplers on
>"Fall of us all" but who knows?  Try it.
>If you tire of the internal drum voices, you can use a bank to trigger 
>samples (or whatever) on an external device.
>The R5 is pretty cool as it has a unaffected rock kit, processed
>rock kit (very 80s), electronic kit (ditto), jazz kit (very nice)
>and latin percussion (congas, timbale, etc.)
>As far as programming, there are two modes:
>SONGS are a collection of patterns.
>PATTERNS are a collection of rhythms of a particular duration.
>PATTERNS can be a particular length (loop!) and time signature.
>You can play patterns or songs.
>And you can "play" the pads with your fingers while it plays as well.
>Only limitation: 12 voice polyphony.  That's why the tuned-up basses
>I have are vortexed and delayed for a swirling echo pattern.
>anyway.  check 'em out.  I've seen R5's used for $175 (to think I paid
>$600 for mine back in 1991 or so).
>It's just barely on topic, but what the hey.
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