--Rick said: <and a wah wah pedal, which I"ve never owned> to which, Rainer replied: "Seriously, Rick - you're telling us you've actually never owned a wah pedal? I can't believe it... " Rick again: Yeah, isn't that a hoot, Rainer. I always sort of really disliked most rapid shiftings of timbre from lo to hi that occur with envelope followers and wah wah pedals to be honest. In fact, I hate envelope followers (or those that I've met in the past). My friend John Connell probably thinks I'm nuts as he loves the use of those instruments in 70's and 80's funk, but I just don't like them. I just think wah wah and envelope followers sound really cheesy, that being said, I can now see how great it would be to have foot control of the sweep of timbre on all these distortion pedals we've been talking about Honestly, I have sort of noticed that people tend to like more limited sweeping bands with wah wahs (less extreme) what ......... .............NO WAIT!!!!!.............this has to be a new topic, obviously. I'll copy this and put it into a new topic. Hold on: one minute later: ********** Okay, done. Who makes the most extreme wah wah pedal (the greatest tonal range)? I understand that a lot of guitarists actually rather like wah wahs with less range (like the original Crybaby). What wahs are out there and what do you all like?