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there were more acts which the majority would put into
the "music that no-one likes" category than acts in the "jazz"
This catagory decribing experimntal music as "Musc that no-one likes"
I have found most amuzing, not to point of asphixiation , but close.
perhaps an audience conducting breathwork sureing "music noone likes"
concerts will help the average audience hear better..
I am often confronted with remarks from the music eminating from my
speakers at home....hehe...I read a phrse in an electronic mag earlier
today..."Its noise...But I like it" was the title of a glitch
roientated vst article.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Byron Howell <email@example.com>
> For that matter, more than breathing; importance lies in a conscious
> communication with the unconscious movements of life.
> . As cage puts (I think) it silence is but all the sounds that we
> filter out unconsciously. Seeing movement and music as one ad the
> same, our unconscious movements of the body would be the movement
> equivalent of silence in cages sense. the breath being the first place
> to start
> f course breathing is as an important thing to work as one's instrument.
> I am practicing martial arts for about 35 years and in that case...
> Having practiced fire poi, staff and juggling movements for some time,
> i do attribute most of the forced awareness of my breath to that art.
> Breath or die kind of thing. Im sure you wouldve had the same
> experience in buddha sit for 5 minutes the first time
> I forget to breath and "awakes" because lacking air.
> Indeed, captivated by my instrument so I would be slightly breathing
> in a very short shallow tyoe of way through a 2 hour death metal
> performance. Unfortunatly when one is captivated into this "State" ,
> the not breathing ultimately puts a stressor on the adrenal glands and
> on all the muslces in performing,( which in the case of a drumset play
> is... pretty much the whole body.) Functioning for long in this state
> is liket long slow asphyxiation. perhaps the wind instrument players
> wont have this problem t the same degree as say piano players or
> drumers, because the breath is so part of the process. Piano plaers or
> drummers can still pay notes without having to take a deep breath. so
> easy to get stuck in a shallow breathing pattern for long periods. In
> my case it was to long with to vigorous a music.
> This a rather more important thing to work on than many may thinks
> because of this "new age" talk...
> Yes. the "new age" contributed to placing a thick layer of melted
> cheese onto investigating breathing
> Was thinking along the "experimental" lines and thought about a
> situation where in the score/ Live llop improvisation it be written
> that the audience needs to join in a specif slow breathing pattern (A
> simple 2 bar loop) to relax them into the tempo of the track and
> experience it on a more subtle level. and perhaps conducting the
> breathing throughout the piece and gettting a 6/8 breath
> going....(Ok...new agey,perhaps, and way to much coordination and
> crowd interaction :)
> the audience breathes the band....unfortunatly one would have to a
> weekend workshop with the common audience first. sounds like way to
> much work....
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Nevyn Nowhere <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>> Breathing consciously is important for more than just music... but any
>> aspect of life.
>> For that matter, more than breathing; importance lies in a conscious
>> communication with the unconscious movements of life.
>> Isn't that what (some) music is? To a degree, at least.
>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:00 AM, o. malhomme @ laposte. net
>> <email@example.com> wrote:
>>> Of course breathing is as an important thing to work as one's
>>> I am practicing martial arts for about 35 years and in that case,
>>> uneffective breathing is immediately felt as lack of endurance,
>>> so on.
>>> And I must admit, for all my experience in that area, that when I play
>>> guitar, it arrives that so taken by what I'm doing, I forget to breath
>>> "awakes" because lacking air. Or it arrives also that I will swallow my
>>> saliva to wrong way and end in chokes.
>>> This a rather more important thing to work on than many may thinks
>>> of this "new age" talk...
>>> Olivier Malhomme
>>> Le 8 nov. 08, à 12:39, Loopers-Delightfirstname.lastname@example.org a
>>> écrit :
>>>>> From: "Byron Howell" <email@example.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Music books that transcend technique...(was Re:
>>>>> semi-OT: i recommend Victor Wooten's book)
>>>>> I teach & practice T'ai Chi, which uses breathing as one of the
>>>>> elements to bring about relaxation. Since I have found so much
>>>>> for myself, I am wanting to share
>>>>> this with others. I have played with the idea of doing local
>>>>> A workshop like that is most needed. If I were anywhere near, i would
>>>>> support. I primarily came to looping through an injury which
>>>>> me fro pursuing drum-set practice and gigging. <snip>
>>>>> The main aspect of my drumming that really sped up the injury was my
>>>>> complete lack of awareness for my breath. Now that i have focused on
>>>>> my breathing patterns i notice how really hard it is to keep a steady
>>>>> pace while playing. My playing goes all wonky. Its like practicing
>>>>> breed excercises. The breath becomes the fifth limb. lately i have
>>>>> begun starting my practice sessions by syncing my playing to my
>>>>> breathing and vice versa.
>>>>> now that i am in the process of resetting my spine, i find that
>>>>> failing to breath properly always ends up in some type of tension
>>>>> somewhere in the body. Once you become hyper aware, its kinda a curse
>>>>> tho...one ends up spending hours eliminating tension in the body in
>>>>> order to play a note that not many notes get played hehe...but for
>>>>> ultimate freedom of any injury its a nessesary process. musicians
>>>>> playing freely now, should incorporate this aspect to make sure your
>>>>> still doing so in 10 to 20 years. At age 26, I discovered very early
>>>>> the perrels of improper breathing.
- From: firstname.lastname@example.org <email@example.com>
- Re: Breathing
- From: "Nevyn Nowhere" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Re: Breathing
- From: "Byron Howell" <email@example.com>