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Re: Breathing



I'll take it one step further. Farting is just as important as  
breathing. I practice farting, a lot. On stage it can clear the area  
immediately around me from drunks, pretty girls, and other  
distractions. Leaving me to focus 100% on my solitude and music. Its  
really beautiful.



On Nov 8, 2008, at 7:54 AM, Byron Howell wrote:

> there were more acts which the majority would put into
> the "music that no-one likes" category than acts in the "jazz"
> category.
>
> This catagory decribing experimntal music as "Musc that no-one likes"
> I have found most amuzing, not to point of asphixiation , but close.
>
> perhaps an audience conducting breathwork sureing "music noone likes"
> concerts will help the average audience hear better..
>
> I am often confronted with remarks from the music eminating from my
> speakers at home....hehe...I read a phrse in an electronic mag earlier
> today..."Its noise...But I like it" was the title of a glitch
> roientated vst article.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Byron Howell  
> <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For that matter, more than breathing; importance lies in a conscious
>> communication with the unconscious movements of life.
>>
>> . As  cage puts (I think) it silence is but all the sounds that we
>> filter out unconsciously. Seeing movement and music as one ad the
>> same, our unconscious movements of the body would be the movement
>> equivalent of silence in cages sense. the breath being the first  
>> place
>> to start
>>
>> f course breathing is as an important thing to work as one's  
>> instrument.
>> I am practicing martial arts for about 35 years and in that case...
>>
>> Having practiced fire poi, staff and juggling movements for some  
>> time,
>> i do attribute most of the forced awareness of my breath to that art.
>> Breath or die kind of thing. Im sure you wouldve had the same
>> experience in buddha sit for 5 minutes the first time
>>
>>  I forget to breath and "awakes" because lacking air.
>>
>> Indeed, captivated by my instrument so I would be slightly breathing
>> in a very short shallow tyoe of way through a 2 hour death metal
>> performance. Unfortunatly when one is captivated into this "State" ,
>> the not breathing ultimately puts a stressor on the adrenal glands  
>> and
>> on all the muslces in performing,( which in the case of a drumset  
>> play
>> is... pretty much the whole body.) Functioning for long in this state
>> is liket long  slow asphyxiation. perhaps the wind instrument players
>> wont have this problem t the same degree as say piano players or
>> drumers, because the breath is so part of the process. Piano  
>> plaers or
>> drummers can still pay notes without having to take a deep breath. so
>> easy to get stuck in a shallow breathing pattern for long periods. In
>> my case it was to long with to vigorous a music.
>>
>>
>> This a rather more important thing to work on than many may thinks
>> because of this "new age" talk...
>>
>> Yes. the "new age" contributed to placing a thick layer of melted
>> cheese onto investigating breathing
>>
>>
>> Was thinking along the "experimental"  lines and thought about a
>> situation where in the score/ Live llop improvisation it be written
>> that the audience needs to join in a specif slow breathing pattern (A
>> simple 2 bar loop) to relax them into the tempo of the track and
>> experience it on a more subtle level. and perhaps conducting the
>> breathing throughout the piece and gettting a 6/8 breath
>> going....(Ok...new agey,perhaps, and way to much coordination and
>> crowd interaction :)
>>
>> the audience breathes the band....unfortunatly one would have to a
>> weekend workshop with the common audience first. sounds like way to
>> much work....
>>
>> Byron
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Nevyn Nowhere  
>> <nevynnowhere@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Breathing consciously is important for more than just music...  
>>> but any
>>> aspect of life.
>>>
>>> For that matter, more than breathing; importance lies in a conscious
>>> communication with the unconscious movements of life.
>>>
>>> Isn't that what (some) music is?  To a degree, at least.
>>>
>>> -nn
>>> www.happyhumans.org
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:00 AM, o. malhomme @ laposte. net
>>> <o.malhomme@laposte.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course breathing is as an important thing to work as one's  
>>>> instrument.
>>>> I am practicing martial arts for about 35 years and in that case,
>>>> uneffective breathing is immediately felt as lack of endurance,  
>>>> injuries and
>>>> so on.
>>>>
>>>> And I must admit, for all my experience in that area, that when  
>>>> I play
>>>> guitar, it arrives that so taken by what I'm doing, I forget to  
>>>> breath and
>>>> "awakes" because lacking air. Or it arrives also that I will  
>>>> swallow my
>>>> saliva to wrong way and end in chokes.
>>>>
>>>> This a rather more important thing to work on than many may  
>>>> thinks because
>>>> of this "new age" talk...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Olivier Malhomme
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 8 nov. 08, à 12:39, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers- 
>>>> delight.com a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Byron Howell" <howell.byron@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Music books that transcend technique...(was Re:
>>>>>> semi-OT: i recommend Victor Wooten's book)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I teach & practice T'ai Chi, which uses breathing as one of the
>>>>>> elements to bring about relaxation. Since I have found so much  
>>>>>> benefit
>>>>>> for myself, I am wanting to share
>>>>>> this with others. I have played with the idea of doing local
>>>>>> workshops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A workshop like that is most needed. If I were anywhere near,  
>>>>>> i would
>>>>>> support. I primarily came to looping through an injury which  
>>>>>> prevented
>>>>>> me fro pursuing drum-set practice and gigging. <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main aspect of my drumming that really sped up the injury  
>>>>>> was my
>>>>>> complete lack of awareness for my breath. Now that i have  
>>>>>> focused on
>>>>>> my breathing patterns i notice how really hard it is to keep a  
>>>>>> steady
>>>>>> pace while playing. My playing goes all wonky. Its like  
>>>>>> practicing new
>>>>>> breed excercises. The breath becomes the fifth limb. lately i  
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> begun starting my practice sessions by syncing my playing to my
>>>>>> breathing and vice versa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now that i am in the process of resetting my spine, i find that
>>>>>> failing to breath properly always ends up in some type of tension
>>>>>> somewhere in the body. Once you become hyper aware, its kinda  
>>>>>> a curse
>>>>>> tho...one ends up spending hours eliminating tension in the  
>>>>>> body in
>>>>>> order to play a note that not many notes get played hehe...but  
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> ultimate freedom of any injury its a nessesary process. musicians
>>>>>> playing freely now, should incorporate this aspect to make  
>>>>>> sure your
>>>>>> still doing so in 10 to 20 years. At age 26, I discovered very  
>>>>>> early
>>>>>> the perrels of improper breathing.
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>
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