ive got the krk rokit 10....barely have to turn it on...sturdy as hell-accidentally tossed it through a wall when i lost my balance...whoops|
tannoy system 800 monitors
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> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Powered Subs
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:21:46 -0800
> I have a really fancy pair of recording moniters, which sound great,
> then borrowed my friend's $200 KRK powered sub, and WHAT a
> difference! just to be able to hear those frequencies, and though it
> was cheap,
> it sounds quite clean, to me. sturdily made. im curious how
> different KRK subs sound, in your regular home studio, in comparison
> to some $1000 jobbie....
> anyways, hello list, Rithers McVickers still lurking, just so busy
> with the band i gots no time to write.
> Finally got a semi-glitch free setup working with ableton 8 &
> superlooper..., everything still crashes intermittently in the middle
> of our set (anyone else have this problem? ableton just craps out for
> no reason)
> take care and be well
> On Dec 31, 2007, at 10:43 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
> > Kris wrote:
> > "I'm going to buy a powered sub very soon. I narroweed it down to
> > the following (below). Any experiences with these? I don't need to
> > go stereo with a sub, right?"
> > Let me start off by saying that I am NO expert on this subject matter.
> > However, from 30 years of working in different capacities as a
> > live sound engineer (mixing many different pop and african groups
> > in 100 and 200 seater clubs
> > in Santa Cruz, 1,000 seater Catalyst rock showclub and 2,000 person
> > Civic Auditorium (Spirit of Africa Festival, et. al.), as an Audio
> > Engineer in recording studios,
> > as a Producer in recording studios and then just doing live sound
> > for my own small gigs one thing occurs to me about subs:
> > The human ear , with the exception of distortion in the sound, does
> > not reproduce bass waves very accurately, due to their very long
> > wave lengths.
> > We really hear accurately in the midranges where our
> > neurophysiological 'EQ' has strong peaks in the range of human
> > intelligibitity.
> > Also, saliently, one tends not to need the kinds of high wattage
> > of subsonic speakers for most of the playing situations where we do
> > our looping gigs.
> > They would overwhelm the room and the frequency spectrum with their
> > power (most of the ones you mentioned looking for).
> > Also, depending on the crossover point of your sub (which you can
> > set on anything decent), many excellent professional speaker
> > systems (especially
> > powered monitors) accurately handle frequencies down to 40 and 50
> > cycles.
> > This means that subwoofers are usually called on to reproduce those
> > frequencies that are at the very bottom (and somewhat innaccurate
> > end of the audible spectrum)
> > and the ones that we feel as much as hear.................those
> > powerful 'rumbly' frequencies.
> > Soooooo (conclusion time and a practical solution for subsonics in
> > one's performances):
> > I just went out and listened to a bunch of home stereo subwoofers
> > that were in the $200-$300 range (and occasionally as cheap
> > as $100 in sales) advertised at places like Fry's and concluded that
> > though they didn't have tremendous wattage, power or volume, that
> > they sounded excellent when
> > added to my little RCF 10" monitors or my Mackie 12" powered
> > monitors. The volume of these things is not loud, but at the normal
> > volume that
> > I play at in small venues, they really round the sound out well and
> > were, well......................inexpensive and fit my budget (they
> > are also not very large usually).
> > The way I figure it, is: If you need more wattage than that for a
> > gig, almost invariably, you will using a pro sound system for the
> > performance,
> > so, in a way, why pay a lot of money for something that is both
> > overkill and heavy and bulky to cart around.
> > Then you can put the $700-$800 you save towards your next tony
> > miniature tube preamplifier or you obsessive collection of Robert
> > Fripp memorabilia.
> > Now, I'm totally okay to change my mind about these conclusions if
> > there are people who have a lot more knowledge than me on the
> > subject, but
> > I found this to be a perfectly acceptable solution for the
> > reproduction of subsonic frequencies in my live looping performances.
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