Re: problem w/live looping using mic

["L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

great thread,just curious what type of in ear monitors
are u using or would recomend?
Luis



--- Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com> wrote:

> this is my #1 problem onstage when looping on cello.
> i deal with it by:
> 
> 1) being very specific in my stage plot about how i
> am positioned  
> relative to the speakers. no speakers should be
> pointing at me and i  
> try to be positioned at least 6 feet behind the
> nearest PA speakers.  
> i.e. the back of the stage! some venues (dance
> clubs) have speakers  
> pointing towards the stage, i get them to turn those
> off for my  
> performance. and setups where the PA is angled and
> the stage falls in  
> the sound arc. i won't play  those stages anymore.
> 
> 2) related to that, if using an amplifier, set it in
> front of you and  
> do your looping behind it.
> 
> 3) don't do looping while on top of a subwoofer.
> often they are  
> underneath the stage. find out where they are and
> move away from them.
> 
> 4) certain kinds of microphones are worse than
> others. make sure your  
> mic is directional and is not picking up sound
> behind it.
> 
> 5) before soundcheck explain the technicalities of
> what you're doing  
> to the soundperson. there is a physical limit to how
> loud i can go  
> before sonic chaos ensues. i work with the
> soundperson to find this  
> threshold during soundcheck so they can experience
> it.
> 
> 6) in ear monitors.
> 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:29 AM, Chris D'Errico wrote:
> 
> >
> > Greetings all...
> >
> > I'm new to this list, & to the world of looping,
> but I have already  
> > run into a problem that I'm hoping someone could
> help me with:
> >
> > When looping vocals/harmonica in live
> performance-- through a PA,  
> > or guitar amp, or both-- the microphone picks up
> the sound of the  
> > PA/amp & starts to record itself recording loops--
> sort of like a  
> > "mirror looking into a mirror" effect... At low
> volume it's not  
> > much of a problem, but at the higher volume
> necessary to push the  
> > sound out to an audience in a decent size room, I
> can't stop the  
> > sound from the PA/amp from bleeding into the mic.
> It gets worse the  
> > more layers I try to add to the loop, with the
> live mic rerecording  
> > the sound, it eventually causes a thin, tinny,
> high pitched  
> > feedback sound that destroys the process &
> performance. I never use  
> > monitors because that just makes it worse-- the
> mic picks that up  
> > also.
> >
> > Other singers out there who create live loops must
> be familiar with  
> > this problem, it's got be very common. Is there
> any possible way to  
> > counter this? Any ideas on a workable set-up?
> >
> > I use an old Shure mic into a few stompbox pedals
> into an Akai  
> > Headrush loop pedal & out to an old tube amp which
> has a line-out  
> > that I run into the PA system when needed.
> >
> > Thanks for your time & attention,
> >
> > Chris D.
> > Las Vegas, Nevada
> >
>
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> Zoë Keating
> Avant Cellist & Composer
> 
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> 
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