Re: Subject: Laptop-based looping

["Tilmann Dehnhard" <tilmann@dehnhard.com>]

i found this controller on the net.
might be more quiet than ground control.
downside: has no expression pedal input.

tilmann


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelly Coyle" <skcoyle@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Subject: Laptop-based looping


>I wouldn't necessarily rely on that info about the MFC10 -- but I
> don't know how you would find out whether it really works or not
> without buying one. Unless someone you believe actually knows
> something (a little hard to tell sometimes on the net) has one, uses
> it, and says it's OK.
> 
> As far as I've been able to tell, footpedal-wise you have these
> choices (of pedals currently made) for Mobius in particular (some gear
> is not so flexible in MIDI assignments as Mobius and Live; if, for
> instance, you want to control an EDP most of these won't work). I have
> all this at hand because it's the problem I'm trying to solve, too. So
> I hope more people answer your question. What I present here is mostly
> gleaned from Internet research, so YMMV.
> 
> Behringer FBC1010. Probably the best available, cheap, and made by an
> otherwise cruddy company. It's depressing. I have one here, and am
> trying to decide whether to keep it. Downsides: large, and just the
> overall legacy of Behringer. Supposedly the "action" on the pedals is
> a little sloppy, as compared to the:
> 
> Nobels MF-2. You can get it from Goldyke (may have spelled that
> wrong). Supposedly higher precision than the Behringer, twice as much
> money, *and* you have to supply your own continuous controllers (up to
> 4, though, which is cool). I am tempted by this one.
> 
> Ground Control Pro, All Access, CAE: these all seem very similar to
> one another. Much higher build quality than Behringer, but make a
> decided click which is a problem if there's a mic anywhere in your
> looping rig: *click* music *click* music... Expensive. For myself, I
> have to decide if I am ever going to want to loop acoustically or
> vocally.
> 
> High end pedals -- I forget the brand names, but if you need them I'll
> find them. No experience whatsoever with these. These often come in at
> nearly 1K.
> 
> Low end pedals -- eight or ten button control change only pedals
> sometimes with a continuous pedal tucked on the end (e.g., Rolls).
> These might work with Live and Mobius because you can use pretty much
> any MIDI message to do anything. Several companies make these, and
> used ones are nearly free. Some of them would probably be OK. Others
> might not be precise enough -- I have no idea. I have an ART here
> somewhere I should probably power up and test.
> 
> Also: Roland has a couple of pedals, with a new one coming out. And
> the Yamaha...
> 
> 
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