Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition?

[Daryl <highhorse@mhorse.com>]

True, the structure isn't apparent until the piece is complete. The way 
I view it is that, if a high point has occurred at roughly 2/3 of the 
way through a tune, the end seems to arrive at a time that is expected 
and pleasing.

Any pop song that has a guitar solo before the bridge or last verse 
would roughly follow the model. Tons of Beatles tunes...for instance, 
Here Comes the Sun. The building bridge after "sun, sun, sun, here it 
comes" happens after two verses...then it's another verse, another 
chorus and out. I mentioned Bach earlier, If I remember correctly in the 
Chaconne or the ubiquitous cello suite prelude in G, the fastest 
passages and highest note occur at a Rectanglish spot.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com

> I beg to differ. The Golden Mean exists outside of time. You observe the
> golden mean as a whole. Music exists in time. You don't know how much 
>music
> is ahead (i.e., how much of the ratio is left) until you get to the end. 
>You
> don't observe music as a whole until it's over. I've listened to some of
> Bartok's pieces which are written around the Golden Mean, and I don't 
>hear
> it. I like the music, but I don't hear it.
>
> But tell me, what songs use the Golden Mean? Maybe if I listen more, I'll
> begin to notice it.