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fyi.....I just bought the Fender FM64 DSP combo amp for a screamin' deal on Zzounds - $300 and free shopping (one left in stock as their xmas special). I'll let all you amp heads know how this thing pans out.... :) / K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Howell" <ransacker@earthlink.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Compact guitar amp... > Rare is it that I chime in on such matters. But I am in agreement with >Mr. > Hartung here. > The whole idea of the dream tone is so subjective that it's to the point > of being moot in many cases. > As for the idea of paying 40K for anything that I can't sleep in is > absurd. I am sure that these Gibson Jazz Boxes are supremely well >crafted > and play and sound wonderful. I have no doubt about this. However. I >can't > imagine most people, even the pornographically wealthy, being able to > justify the price tag. > > I find that most mid range priced gear usually suits my purposes just > fine. I play a Godin LGXT that I got at GC for less than 800.00 used, a > Vox AC30 (CC1) and a bunch of pedals from Boss and Digitech, and a >Gibson > Echoplex. These all serve me very well in the current context that I >play. > Even if I could afford a bunch of seriously boutique-ish gear, why? I >know > that alot of it probably sound grand, but for most of us, the idea of > doing things like paying the mortgage, feeding our kids (or in my case > Border Collie and Tabbies) and most of all not winding up getting kicked > the curb or at least wind up sleeping on the couch alot of nights. All >of > this to make sure that we sound transcendent as opposed to good. Most of > John Q. Public is usually too busy picking the tomatoes off of their > nachos or trying to making connection with carnal possibility to really > notice your tone. I guess I don't worry too much about playing for other > musicians when I do. I hope they appreciate it. > > Forty-Thousand Dollars for a guitar? Five thousand dollars for an > amplifier? Chime in and show me where this is a great idea. > > I could be well wrong here........... > > Todd > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> >>Sent: Dec 16, 2006 11:42 PM >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Subject: Re: Compact guitar amp... >> >>From: "Zoe Keating" <cello@zoekeating.com> >> >>>I tried a very small Schertler amp a few months ago and was pretty >>>impressed....but that was with a cello. >> >>Was it the David? I tried one here in Boise...very nice >sounding....though >>they were mainly for acoustic vs. electric mondern jazz...but really nice >>amps, nonetheless...built like tanks (Swiss, of course, I think). I can >>see >>how they would sound great for cello. >> >>It's funny how my taste has changed in amps over the years. I used to >>think >>boutique amps, $1000 and higher, were the only way to go...and I've >owned >>a >>few of them over the years (power, pre, combo). These days I find that a >>$200-$300 amp suits me just fine, and that the "alleged dream tone" >really >>isn't dramatically different than a mid-range amp. This is only my >>personal >>experience and opinion here, of course. I can generally get a tone I like >>out of a lower cost amp. I put most of my investment in my guitars and my >>playing technique. >> >>I'm also finding that there is a trend going on today with guitars and >>amps. >>Many foreign manufacturers are starting to produce some very affordable >>gear >>that plays really good and consistently. A local music store here has >some >>hollow body jazz guitars that are made in Taiwan that play just amazing, >>and >>are a fraction of the price of the boutique jazz axes. I know some guys >>who >>have paid $40,000 for their Gibson L5s, Super 400 or Wes Montgomery >>model.s....freakin' insane. I think Gibson's guitar are grossly >>overpriced...you can get a not-well-known luthier to make something for a >>fraction of the price. I wouldn't even feel comfortable taking a guitar >>like that (the high end Gibson's) out of the case at a gig. >> >>I've read on MANY jazz guitar discussion forums that the Roland Cube 60 >>($300 +) is a great pick for diverse tone and portability. It keeps >>popping >>up as a great pick....pretty amazing and quite appealing for a bunch of >>old >>guys with gray hair whose backs are too bad to lift those Fender Twins >and >>JC-120s. Purism in amps is starting to lose grip a bit with all the >>latest >>greatest DSP technology. Interesting phenomeon going on with music >>technology. >> >>Kris >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Andrew Koenig wrote: >>> >>>>> Anyone have any ideas for a small, >>>>>> compact guitar amp for >>>>>> jazz, with a lot of bells and whistles, effects, >>>>>> etc? >>>> >>>> How compact? What price range? If you want something to drool over, >>>> check >>>> out www.acousticimg.com and look for the Corus model. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >