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RE: Robert Fripp's Radiophonics (To Synth or not to Synth)

Hi guys n gals

its Phill Aka Lol C Aka Blackface etc.

after a long hard road with getting chucked out of this group with my 
previous address I have changed to a new account just for this list and so 
far it all seems to be going roses.

I wanted to chime in on this one because it is probably one of the biggest 
questions that i have been asking myself latley,(should I allow myself to 
get into synths)  i cant belive I have not brought the topic to this forum 

to my mind  this debate of whether to use a synth fx unit or whether I 
to creating all my sounds using just a guitar  begins with me asking the 
question of why I loop in the first place, to eleborate, if you want to do 
so many things why not get a band  or at least a precussionist or 

part of the reason that I always stop just short of buying a guitar synth 
that a LARGE part of the reason i loop is that this paradigm creates an 
element of limitation, synths and so on seem to offer such a large range 
sound tweaks and so on that i think i would spend so much time playing 
the  pallette, of sounds available I may never actually loop.

another of my problems with synths is that the reason I loop is that it is 
somehow "real" and "live", I am comfortable with what I know about it and 
how I can justifiy it to others if they are interested. I can show people 
how this is all done by one person in realtime without the use of samples 
whatever (its not that I dont like samples , its just that within my own 
paradigm I would have to think........ well, if you use a sample of drums 
why not get a drum machine, which is only one step away from a sequencer 
a drum machine on a laptop which is only one step from a drum machine a 
sequence and some orchestration, then i would think why not do a backing 
track and before you know it you are a karioke artist not a 

sorry that all kind of burst out, hope you see what I mean though, all 
things are useful to some people some of the time, but I think I am scared 
of where that first step of buying a synth might lead.

I think that I need to set my self some boundrys within which to work, 
also has implications for normal gig settings too, I already write stuff 
home that uses so many different pedal combinations that I have to start 
from the bottom up and rbuild before I have a song that is usable on the 
road sort of speak, I think this might also get worse if I added other 
a guitar synth, a real synth for that matter or even a pair of bongos, all 
of this would in one hand make my life simpler by giving my easy access to 
things that i have to be very creative to achieve with my current sound 
setup, but would also paradoxically complicate my setup by adding in more 
floorspace/another input/wallwart/if its a live instrument anothe rmic and 
more risk of feedback etc..........

I think you will be able to tell by this ramble just how confused I am 
this, but hopefully if you all chime in I might reply with what I feel in 
few days time!!!

Bye for now

>From: "Krispen Hartung" <info@krispenhartung.com>
>Reply-To: <info@krispenhartung.com>
>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Subject: RE: Robert Fripp's Radiophonics and A Blessing of Tears
>Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:10:19 -0700
> > My contention is basically that every song sounds so similar to me,
> > and there is no real interesting melody work to give each song an
> > identity of its own. I'm sure Fripp would beg to differ, but as a
> > listener, I'm not drawn to any particular song as having a unique or
> > strong musical fingerprint or personality. It sounds like
> > stereotypical synth ambient music to me.
> >
>but he should give up the synth.
> >> I did.
> >>Worked for me.
>Very interesting comment, David.  I'd like to see your elaboration on
>this.  I think I know where you are going with it. I gave up the synth
>as well, several years ago....the hex-pickup variety that is. I still
>use a synth-like algorithm in my effect unit...but for the most part I
>try to get all I can out of the natural guitar sound and effect
>* David Beardsley
>* microtonal guitar
>* http://biink.com/db

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