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RE: Robert Fripp's Radiophonics (To Synth or not to Synth)
Hi guys n gals
its Phill Aka Lol C Aka Blackface etc.
after a long hard road with getting chucked out of this group with my
previous address I have changed to a new account just for this list and so
far it all seems to be going roses.
I wanted to chime in on this one because it is probably one of the biggest
questions that i have been asking myself latley,(should I allow myself to
get into synths) i cant belive I have not brought the topic to this forum
to my mind this debate of whether to use a synth fx unit or whether I
to creating all my sounds using just a guitar begins with me asking the
question of why I loop in the first place, to eleborate, if you want to do
so many things why not get a band or at least a precussionist or
part of the reason that I always stop just short of buying a guitar synth
that a LARGE part of the reason i loop is that this paradigm creates an
element of limitation, synths and so on seem to offer such a large range
sound tweaks and so on that i think i would spend so much time playing
the pallette, of sounds available I may never actually loop.
another of my problems with synths is that the reason I loop is that it is
somehow "real" and "live", I am comfortable with what I know about it and
how I can justifiy it to others if they are interested. I can show people
how this is all done by one person in realtime without the use of samples
whatever (its not that I dont like samples , its just that within my own
paradigm I would have to think........ well, if you use a sample of drums
why not get a drum machine, which is only one step away from a sequencer
a drum machine on a laptop which is only one step from a drum machine a
sequence and some orchestration, then i would think why not do a backing
track and before you know it you are a karioke artist not a
sorry that all kind of burst out, hope you see what I mean though, all
things are useful to some people some of the time, but I think I am scared
of where that first step of buying a synth might lead.
I think that I need to set my self some boundrys within which to work,
also has implications for normal gig settings too, I already write stuff
home that uses so many different pedal combinations that I have to start
from the bottom up and rbuild before I have a song that is usable on the
road sort of speak, I think this might also get worse if I added other
a guitar synth, a real synth for that matter or even a pair of bongos, all
of this would in one hand make my life simpler by giving my easy access to
things that i have to be very creative to achieve with my current sound
setup, but would also paradoxically complicate my setup by adding in more
floorspace/another input/wallwart/if its a live instrument anothe rmic and
more risk of feedback etc..........
I think you will be able to tell by this ramble just how confused I am
this, but hopefully if you all chime in I might reply with what I feel in
few days time!!!
Bye for now
>From: "Krispen Hartung" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: RE: Robert Fripp's Radiophonics and A Blessing of Tears
>Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:10:19 -0700
> > My contention is basically that every song sounds so similar to me,
> > and there is no real interesting melody work to give each song an
> > identity of its own. I'm sure Fripp would beg to differ, but as a
> > listener, I'm not drawn to any particular song as having a unique or
> > strong musical fingerprint or personality. It sounds like
> > stereotypical synth ambient music to me.
>but he should give up the synth.
> >> I did.
> >>Worked for me.
>Very interesting comment, David. I'd like to see your elaboration on
>this. I think I know where you are going with it. I gave up the synth
>as well, several years ago....the hex-pickup variety that is. I still
>use a synth-like algorithm in my effect unit...but for the most part I
>try to get all I can out of the natural guitar sound and effect
>* David Beardsley
>* microtonal guitar
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