this exchange occurred previously: me: Also, on my last CD I used a piece where I sample raindrops on different resonant surfaces (umbrella, drum head, piece of vinyl) and then turned it into a rhythmic melody. richard zvonar: Check out "Dripsody" (1955) by Hugh LeCaine. http://www.hughlecaine.com/sounds/dripsody.mp3 LOL, and I thought I was being so clever and original..........it just goes to show you. Well, at least I can say that I never knew that I was using a 'tried and true' concept because I have never heard of Hugh LeCaine. Thanks for another enlightening post, Richard. yours, Rick Walker PS watch for NOH MUSIC FOR PEARL HARBOR an evening of experimental electronica on NOVEMBER 7th (Pearl Harbor Day) at the CAYUGA VAULT in Santa Cruz. It will feature Dr. Zvonar (up from the southlands) myself and the venerable Beede, Bob Beede, who has had a hand in influencing countless people in the electronic music world in these parts for many years. This will be the first time we have played together on the same bill (at the last NOH MUSIC FOR PEARL HARBOR) in over 20 years!!!! PPS I even own that John Hassel CD and never realized that there were water samples on it.