Re: [loop nyc] progress with NYC loopfest

["Terry Lewis" <kid_lucky@hotmail.com>]

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Kid Lucky


>From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: "Looper's Delight Mailing List" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>Subject: [loop nyc] progress with NYC loopfest
>Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 21:29:24 -0500
>
>There has been progress since my last update.
>
>
>1. more names.
>
>Of course, there are more people interested:
>I have a more complete list of names of people interested
>which I'll post a little later this week -- see below.
>
>
>2. chashama.
>
>I did make phone contact with Chashama.  They were friendly
>but non-committal.  (Which is good -- they probably deny
>most requests immediately.)
>
>I agreed to send PR materials and a logistical plan,
>informally for Monday.  email is fine.
>
>More on that below -- but here's the plan I'm hatching.
>
>
>3. A bigger plan.
>
>I am going to propose a three-day meeting here in New York
>with two nights of concerts in a place where we can keep
>our gear set up.  It will probably have to be on three
>weekdays...
>
>I think that this is a more attractive plan for almost
>everyone with a lot less stress and tons more fun.
>
>
>4. group questions
>
>I'm going to write up the plans more specifically but first I want to
>ask some questions of the group.
>
>
>4.1. help booking?
>
>In my current incarnation, I realize that I'm bad at booking.
>My day job is in an open-plan office and everyone hears everything
>I do, so I just don't make phone calls.
>
>I have Chashama in-hand but if this falls through, which is probably
>a better than even chance just given the intransigent nature of the
>universe, we're going to have to scale the thing down and then try
>to book it into a bunch of places.
>
>Any volunteers who are good at this?
>
>I didn't have all the facts at my fingertips when I called Chashama
>and thus I didn't come off as completely professional.
>
>I'm going to get more of the facts compiled from you lot (see questions
>below!)
>
>
>
>4.2. Other spots that would allow a workshop.
>
>If Chashama doesn't bite, it's not clear that there will be a place
>that will let us do the workshop in the day and play at night.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>
>4.3. Web design.
>
>I can support a website fine on my server.
>
>But design is not really my bag.
>
>(I'd do something with one of my photos
>http://clikTrik.com if I had to I suppose...
>a la http://fortNY.com)
>
>Any web designers here (after all the abuse you've taken here recently?)
>
>
>4.4. PR materials.
>
>Do we have any materials about the various California Looper's
>shows (and what's the exact name?)?  How many people showed
>up?  How many players?  How long?  Who?  etc. etc.
>
>Any other materials that might help us book a gig?
>
>Best list of famous loopers?
>
>Short list of names that are interested and a draw?
>
>
>4.5. VISUALS!
>
>How could I forget this?  If we are going to do
>loopy shows, we need loopy visuals.
>
>
>I think I can get people to do this though.
>If someone who does this is on the list and interested
>(there is at least one person who might fit this bill)
>then that would be even better.
>
>Don't let me drop this on the floor.
>
>
>4.6. T-shirts!
>
>If someone wanted to make T-shirts...  we'd need something interesting 
>though.
>
>simple suggestion:  a simple design describing the show except that
>we cut two quite large perfect circles out of the T-shirt "randomly".
>
>loops, get it?
>
>people like holes in things.  a lot of people
>like a chance to show off their bodies or just to have layers...
>so they can wear their looper t-shirt and something
>else cool underneath that that just peeks out...
>
>(at least, people in New York do!)
>
>
>4.7. Outreach to EDP, Electrix, music stores!?
>
>If we are going to do a show like this then surely the
>manufacturers would want to have a little chance to
>show off their wares and answer questions?
>
>Another nice possibility would be loaner instruments
>for out-of-country visitors?
>
>Does anyone want to volunteer for this fun job?
>
>
>4.9. Co-organizers needed!
>
>If we do such a large thing (and I'm still VERY open to
>having two or three groups get together and play a
>night at the Knit) I'm going to need help with the
>organization of this.
>
>I can handle the technical logistics well and it will
>all work perfectly.  Serving and managing the website
>is ok too.
>
>I'd love to offload the calling people up and
>getting people's details and that sort of information
>to someone else.  I have a list...
>
>Volunteers solicted!
>
>
>4.10.  Full bands??
>
>I'm of two minds about whether we should allow full bands
>with a live drummer to play.
>
>The moment we introduce live drums, we move the PA requirements
>up if he's a hard-hitting rock drummer.
>
>A jazz drummer -- or any drummer who doesn't play loud
>all the time -- would probably be fine.
>
>Am I being too draconian?
>
>
>
>
>5. Logistical plan for the show.
>
>I'm going to write up a logistical plan based on about two dozen looping
>performers attending the conference (meeting? collective? hang?
>activity? thing?)
>perhaps another three dozen drop-ins who'd come to see the workshops
>
>and perhaps fifteen formal "acts" over three evenings where we'd advertise
>and charge admission to the public.
>
>the first night would be "random loops" and we could charge $3 and
>make it an "open loop jam".  warn people how terrible it could be.
>
>
>
>
>And a three and a half day meeting.
>
>We'd have to throw ourselves on the
>mercy of the venue for the space.  But Chashama indicated that
>they were much more open to weekdays.
>
>
>  first day, load in and show.  worst Sun, best Thursday.
>  second day, workshop and show, Mon, Fri
>  third day, jam and show. Tue, Sat
>  half day, load out.   Wed, Sun
>
>
>We might charge $20-60 to attend all three days and $5-15 for each show?
>That sort of thing?
>
>Of course, if you came for the days, the show would be free.
>
>
>This would give a lot of people who want to loop with others a chance
>to play and jam in a friendly experimental atmosphere where you
>can simply stop and fiddle with the gear for a while.
>
>
>and people with acts that they want to push or that might be
>a draw can play more formally in the evenings.
>
>
>
>6. More comments from you are solicited.
>
>Am I overreaching?  Is it too big a thing?
>
>I think it's almost as easy to organize three days as
>a long complicated evening, frankly.
>
>And it will be EASIER to pull off when we do it.
>I was sweating about the logistics of that quick
>load-in for one night.  We won't need that!
>
>
>It'll be much more of a reason for people to come out of town.
>If you're coming from Europe or Asia, it isn't worth
>coming for a single day, but three days is a bite-sized
>meal -- take a few extra days to see New York and you
>have a splendid vacation.
>
>
>We'll generate tons and tons of material if we make a
>point of recording everything and we can have a lot of fun.
>Doing it for two days -- or three! gives people a chance to
>stretch out a little bit.
>
>In fact, I suspect that three days is the optimum: one day
>to set up and get to know each other;  one day to actually workshop;
>one day to play.  Perhaps I'll try to book that (I mean,
>three is as easy as two, if you think about it -- there's
>no difference in the organization) and then if they
>DON'T like that we can "back off" to two days?
>
>
>
>Chashama is a perfect location.  If we do it on a weekday,
>we could set up there and perhaps even have loopers
>SLEEPING there, the ULTIMATE in security!  So we could
>leave all the gear set up for the whole time and not
>worry about it -- it'd be a riot!
>
>(Crime is very very low in New York.  You are much more
>likely to get robbed or killed in London, eg, than New York City!
>And there are police everywhere around Times Square right now.
>But you must always take precautions everywhere.)
>
>
>
>7. What next?
>
>I'm going to prepare a logistical plan.
>
>You're going to send me answers to my questions,
>opinions and just plain abuse.
>
>The domain has been purchased and it has been installed
>on the server, in a couple of days you'll all be able
>to see the web site though there will be little on it.
>
>Someone, hopefully not me, will put html and images
>to make a nice neat little web site there.
>
>I'll get the list of names up on the new site
>then in an unpretty style like before and then
>we can turn that into a nice web site.
>
>On Monday or thereabouts I'll send the information
>to Chashama, which will consist of:
>
>-- a one page description
>-- a simple web site (names, description, pr)
>-- a logistical proposal of how it will work.
>
>
>
>
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