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Re: playing w/ dj's
The actual discussion about the DJ stuff amuses me a little bit.
At least I have no problems or an invisible border in my brain,to work
with a DJ.Maybe in a band,maybe a saideman or maybe the DJ as sideman.
I trace myself as a musican who plays mainly guitar.But some would say,this
not a real guitarist,because he uses so many FX/devices and his sound is
standard E-guitarsound we used to know from a Strat/Paula directly to the
Amp.Oh yeah,if this should be the relation I am really not a guitarist.
In the guitar world we had and have enough debates about Tube or
Paula or Strat,now Vitual Pod front against analog Stompboxes and so and
At least it is not a debate about music,it is only a debate about
realize an audio artwork.
I have listened to a lot of DJ´s who were really only the Master of a
But I have also listened to a lot of guitarists who played down only the
Another question is,if a member of a symphony orchestra(a Basson player for
could be called a musican.He plays also only fixed material from a fixed
At least a programme list.Would you call him a Non-Musican ? I guess not.
Let us take a view to the composer side.I like Maurice Ravel a lot,because
wonderful and colourful instrumentation.He was original a Pianoplayer.So he
a piano musican.As composer he was able to expand this ideas from piano to
Symphony Orchestra.Maurice was not a trained musican for each single
an orchestra.Nevertheless he was able to tease out all this wonderful
from a piano part. From the piano part alone,you can not hear the version
symphony orchestra.It needs the imagination and artistic spirit to tranform
part to an extrordianry Orchestra part.Listen to Daphins and Cloe or the
an exhibition".Pictures was composed by Modest Mussorgsky for Piano,Maurice
did the instrumentation for it.
In a non correct way I could easy claim,that Maurice was an early
Like evry other piano player who composed for orchestra.
The DJ question is a little worse.Most people think of DJ,that he is
spools down a playlist,with some funny comments.Well,a Radio DJ for
This is a basic form.
The next step is the DJ,who uses his sound sources for some easy
Like scratching.The mass of +30 people will think immidiately of
But for a generation before,all guitar heroes were in their mind,Hippies on
Also a prejudice.....
Around 1955 we had to schools in Europe.The electronic Studio in
additive synthesis sound(Stockhuasen,Koenig...) and the Musique Concrete in
(Pierre Schaeffer....),the Paris-studio worked a lot with real sounds and
aera of Vinyl.So it could be traced as the pre-sampling and DJ phase.
They used sonic material to manipulate already existing sounds,so they
another musical context.
Later on such manipulation was determined as "Life-electronic",with
It was never a question,that the "Life Electronic" guy,was mentioned as
The nowadays DJ is a musican.Life electronic made an evolution.Hardware
in development.Like once and still on for the E-guitar.
A DJ has totally different possibilities to a "Old school" musican.A DJ
reach the musicality vision of an E-guitartit.Otherwise an E-guitarist will
seldom reach the optimum of a DJ.
An E-guitarist will also seldom reach the acoustic guitar heaven.Like
A good DJ has discovered with his experience and individual insights a
musical textures,like an E-guitarist who has been busy for years,or a
A bad DJ will be a bad DJ,a bad guitarist will be a bad guitarist,a bad
will be a bad basoonist.
If we would be really strict musicans,then we should leave our fingers from
artifical instruments.The only natural instrument we all own is our voice.
So we have to open a big barber shop.Well,the voice is very flexible.
Each other instrument is artifical.Or have you ever seen a Violintree ?
A massive problem is the question of the copyright.Most DJs use a real
form existing material,so that it will not be recognized,where it really
A lot of guitar players use little licks and riffs,wich were played so many
before.But they sat it into a different context,so that the origin context
Ripping off is not a new way,a lot of musican before us ripped of the
form preexisting material,to a new context.
If we were really strict,each musican has to pay royalities to the one,who
the musical system of twelve tones per octave.Or stranger,Harry partch who
have been this year 100 years old,had invented a 43 steps scale through an
Each time you reach his frequency,you must pay royality. :_)
Such discussion makes no sense,like the discussion if a DJ is a musican or
Of course there are plenty of so called DJs out,where we only can
But there enough other instrumentalists out,where we can fart...a lot.
There is no good or bad music outside.There is only music we like or
This is and will be always an individual decison.
At the end,it is not interesting for me,how the music was produced,wich
to my heart,that I will call an acoustic sound MUSIC.
It is only important,that this music had touched me,for whatever reasons.