I used to have a "Super Sweep" phase shifter that, when connected normally, was a lot like a Small Stone. However, if you unplugged the input and left the output hooked up to an amp, it would generate the strangest "flying saucer" sounds that could be modified with the speed and depth knobs. Not the most useful pedal, but pretty cool once in a while... Tim At 10:38 AM 8/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >Don't forget to look at other vintage phasers, too. .... Keep checking the pawn shops and secondhand guitar stores for >non-"vintage" old effects. Sometimes you can find real gems for cheap. >Rather than a do-it-all phaser, you could have three or four distinctive >phaser voices that way, since all different brands seem to have their >own characteristic tone.