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Re: Live sequencing.

interesting dave

can we hear something?


At 18.28 06/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>An informal poll:
>>When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how much everyone is using
>>canned sequenced materials?
>I've just started a new group, currently a trio with a drummer that 
>on turntables and a bassist who loops. I'm playing rhodes, modular synth,
>sampler, etc. Our goal is to be a cross betweem Herbie Hancock's Sextant
>band and DJ Spooky. In this group, I'm using a Roland MC303 drum
>machine/sequencer, and an analog step sequencer in the modular. We've had 
>couple of gigs now, and I feel like we're figuring out a few things about
>the machine/human-time connundrum.
>I use the MC303 as a master clock for all my stuff, because it has a tap
>tempo to quickly sync it to the rhythm section or the turntables. I think
>this is pretty important, to make the machine-driven stuff a little more
>flexible. If I set the tempo with the MC303 at the start of a piece, the
>band follows it and I generally don't have to adjust. If the drummer 
>a piece, I'll sync to him and keep following him. This seems to really 
>the flow.
>Also, I don't have complete tracks sequenced, maybe just drum loops and a
>few percussive synth tracks at a time. I try to make the sequenced parts
>really obvious, and to leave holes for the 3 of us to play parts that fit
>into the grooves. Also, I have things set up so when we move to different
>sections, I have to trigger them manually, no sections are a fixed length.
>Another thing is that I don't sync everything up. The bassist uses a
>boomerang for looping, I use a vortex and a jamman, but it's not
>MIDI-synced. It keeps us more awake trying to do loops that work in real
>time, and if it drifts, that's OK too.
>I use Vision as my main computer-based sequencer, and it offers a lot of
>flexibility for live stuff as well, you can use keys from the computer
>keyboard or MIDI notes to trigger new sections, things like that. I'd just
>rather not take a computer to gigs.
>>Reason i ask?  Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the
>>newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver.  I went to see the famed duduk
>>player, not really to catch Brook, and while i REALLY enjoyed the duduk, 
>>presentation left something to be desired...  I felt that there was alot 
>>rough edges, mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, 
>>the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that the CD liner 
>>to 'Black Rock' make him out to be...  Most of the sequenced stuff was
>>really just loops, but the lengths of the sections were definitely
>>programmed and just when they finally started to hit a groove, they moved
>>on...  I don't know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on 
>>in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING...  (off my soapbox..)  
>>the record (which i like) and save the $$, unless you wish to see the
>>legendary Gasparyan (you won't be disappointed in him).
>Sounds like a fairly disappointing show, too bad because Gasparyan is an
>amazing musician.
>Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/
>"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
>gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
>your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
>type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
>together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
>together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
>                                            -Sun Ra