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Re: Backing tracks: A confession
On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
> I think what matters is the experience
> you offer the audience! THAT is the artistry - not the technology or
> techniques you are using to achieve the communication. ("..in the eye
> of the beholder..." etc etc)
>
> Per
I concur and have been "guilty" of the same many times in the past
and with no "complaints" from anyone.
"Nothing is true. Everything is permitted."
Wm. S. Burroughs
:-)
Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR
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> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>
> wrote:
>> Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to
>> appreciate why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to
>> be an exception) are so feature limited.
>>
>> Once upon a time, I made have use of my EDP and played with
>> feedback and next loop and all the rest. Hey, it was there, it was
>> easy to grab, it was my first real looper in a long time. Fripp's
>> Let the Power Fall had given me a taste for the 5-10 second loop
>> with the feedback control at less than 100%. Etc.
>>
>> Then the EDPs drifted out of my rack. First to try to make room
>> for an LP1 and then because I was trying to go rackless and ended
>> up using the looper on the M13.
>>
>> Now I find myself fairly routinely recording a loop, closing it in
>> overdub mode purely to avoid cutting off the sound, maybe
>> overdubbing a bit more, and then showing a tendency to just let it
>> play while I improvise/noodle/whack-off (choose your description).
>> And you know what? I like working this way. The loop fills the
>> sonic landscape in, but it lets me concentrate on the guitar
>> rather than on the loop.
>>
>> So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and
>> under pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot
>> controller (I now have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I
>> record static loops and let them play. Maybe I throw them into
>> reverse of half-speed. Maybe I turn on scramble. And I generally
>> set up multiple loops often of different lengths. But after
>> getting a few loops going and mixed, it all just becomes backing
>> tracks.
>>
>> When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do
>> I stop getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-)
>>
>> Or in the quest for a rackless system, maybe what I need is a
>> simple looper or two to do the backing tracks thing and a long
>> delay line with feedback and a way to mute the input to do the
>> Frippertronics-style thing. The only issue is that I'd like the
>> latter to be syncable to the former so that it doesn't all just
>> become a mish-mash of unsynced loops -- though that can be fun in
>> its own right. The LP2 might actually be a great choice here given
>> support for things like quantized replace, but last I knew it
>> wasn't stereo friendly the way even the DL4 is (although it's a
>> mono looper) which means I'm back to worrying about needing mixing/
>> routine support and the benefits of shedding the rack may start to
>> fade.
>>
>> So, it's probably stick with the rack, look for a real MIDI foot
>> controller solution, and try to better exploit the LP1.
>>
>> I've got visions of an LP1 and my Korg AM8000R shoved inside
>> something like the M13 with a really tuned performance model and
>> control set, but that isn't going to happen and given the
>> confession above, I have to ask whether I would really exploit it.
>> But I'd certainly plunk down the money for it within reason...
>>
>> Mark
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