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Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.)
the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them
only,they never sound wrong;-)
cheers
Luis
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Rick Walker schrieb:
>>
>> I think that using C major (and all of it's resultant 7 Greek modes)
>as
>> a point of departure and a way of understanding how to play in any key
>is
>> the fastest way to get a handle on the instrument.
>>
>> In a very cool way, the keyboard makes you think, specifically, of
>> intervallic relationships
>> in a way that the guitar doesn't.
>
> It would really be interesting to hear the opinion of someone who did
>first
> learn the guitar and is now both an accomplished guitarist and pianist on
> this "understanding piano for guitarists" topic.
> And that might just be a problem - any of the people I can think of from
>the
> top of my head (Gismonti, Towner, Keneally, van Halen) did start with
>piano
> and then picked up guitar later...just a coincidence? Anyone can name
>some
> counter examples?
>
> Being an "amatuer Gismonti" myself (meaning: learning piano first, then
> studying composition, then doing some guitar), I can only offer a look
>at it
> from the other side:
>
> (all of my statements describe my personal learning experiences here,
>which
> might differ from those of others, and actually be counter-intuitive or
>even
> inefficient):
> Piano is very neatly organized in octaves, and how fingering stays
>constant
> from octave to octave, which the guitar is not so much, at least not
> intuitively (the major 3rd between G and B string doesn't help here...).
> However, the guitar is (with the exception of the major 3rd...) more
> consistent with intervals, e.g. 2 frets = one tone, 1 string up 1 fret
>back
> = major 4rd etc, which the piano is not (unless you're counting keys,
>which,
> due to the white/black logic, is not the intuitive way to perceive it).
>On
> the piano, the step from the goal to play a certain chord to fingering
>the
> right keys is chord -> intervals -> notes -> fingering, i.e. from "maj7
>on
> B" you go via "major third, minor third, major third" to "B D# F# A#" to
>the
> actual hand position. And this works well in all keys (and imo it
>actually
> helps if you start doing so early on). And btw, you'll have a hard time
>even
> playing standard pop/rock/blues chords when sticking with white keys.
> Let's say you want a blues - do it in A (because its similar to
>Aeolian), so
> you have the chords Am (works fine), Dm (works fine), Am (works fine),
>E7 -
> buggers. Same if you play major (in C), and then want to emphasise the
> tonic's double role as the subdominant's dominant by adding a 7...
>
> That being said - I'm mostly curious about the "guitarists who later
>picked
> up piano and are famous for both" suggestions!
>
> Rainer
>
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