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Re: Looping upright bass?
Title: Re: Looping upright bass?
Sorry to disappoint you guys, but Eberhard Weber has produced at
least two records of his solo looping, in addition to the tremendous
ensemble work he's produced since the mid 1970s....
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1606047/a/Pendulum.htm
http://bassisthebase.multiply.com/photos/album/8
Hi, Todd. We might be the only two
looping double-bassists here so thought I should speak
up!
I think, first of all, you'd benefit more
from a pre-amp, as opposed to a DI, which will boost
the signal and hopefully get rid of the hiss, etc. which I think is
there because you need to turn it up too much to get a decent signal
into your ultralite.
Pre-amps are just as much of a personal
choice as pick-ups. I know the Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum Bass
Preamplifier is popular and generally highly recommended. http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLATINUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html.
I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and
pretty happy with it. http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=79&cat=1&id=1. It doesn't have an EQ (which the Fishman does) but that's not
a big deal for me.
I see that David Gage doesn't offer a
pre-amp but you might want to email them to see if they recommend a
certain unit.
For more help and info, check out the
double bass forums at TalkBass - www.talkbass.com
Feel free to email me off-list if you've
got more questions.
Ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews
<gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Subject: Looping upright bass?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM
I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and
I've run into a
lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I
have
been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my
recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning
how
to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm
using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This
sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I
can't
play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be
much
better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded
on
each pass.
I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using
a
bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that
goes
between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. (
http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html
) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using
Live
and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles)
After
doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to
plug
the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the
MOTU
ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still
extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub
the
noise gets multiplied.
I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and
most
pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can
sound
good plugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound
good
recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can
bridge
the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all
the
noise and/or hum.
I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the
amp
into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box,
into
the ultralite without success either.
Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using
a
mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound
playing the bass arco or pizz?
Thank you in advance,
Todd
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