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Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment.
I think you've just about got the voice over down for a serious
looping performance. Hit those posts, Rev, and make it swing.
trouble comin' everyday.
throw in a little stutter with ca ca pi pi talism every so often
On Oct 5, 2008, at 10:02 PM, Rev Fever wrote:
>
> I was resisting getting into this fray, but when I read this...
>
>>
>> Why isn't anyone angry at the morons that took out loans they knew
>> they couldn't pay back?
>
> ....I finally had to speak out. This is the *same* line of finger-
> pointing *blame crap* that *all* of the Repugnican Reich wing
> neonconartist "fair and balanced"
> Faux Noise TV, and radio "talk" show blowhards and gas bags are now
> *repeating endlessly*, ad nauseam, and it makes me *sick* to hear it.
>
> Yeah. Like those "morons" who lost their long time / good paying
> jobs due to their jobs suddenly and without warning, either being
> *outsourced* to some other country, or due to the "brilliance" of
> some *way overpaid*, fat cat CEO who decided to downsize...oh excuse
> me... to "restructure" a company for only the purposes of increasing
> the profits of other fat cat stockholders, and then later even run
> the company into the ground, but *still* walk away with a *huge*
> severance package and a lifetime of other benefits. (Not to also
> forget the millions that were already sitting in his / her personal
> account, along with millions in stocks,etc)
>
> Or, the "morons" who suddenly, and without any kind of warning, came
> down with some *serious* or even life-threatening illness that put
> them out of work for a *long* time, and / or wiped them out
> financially, or that the same tragedy occurred to their spouse, or a
> member of their family like their *kid* or a *parent*,etc.
>
> Or, the "morons" who were first-time buyers and were maybe a bit
> "green" about going into a mortgage situation for the first time in
> their lives,
> (and just who is an "expert" in *everything* for the *first* time
> ever?) and were the victims of some aggressive, or slick, fast
> talking predatory lender, a predatory parasite whom they *trusted*
> to be "honest" and a "straight talker", and who was *ordered* by
> upper "management" to sell, sell sell, and to do *whatever it takes*
> to secure the deal... no matter what, including *lying* or some
> other deception.
>
> Or, the "morons" who were the targets and victims of the *sub-prime
> scandal*? (Remember that? Remember Countrywide?)
>
> And, there are other reasons why many "morons" simply got into
> trouble with something that could happen to just about anyone,
> but who originally *never plotted or planned* to do so.
>
> These same "blame the little guys and morons" loudmouths are very
> likely long time Rethuglicans who "conveniently" seem to "forget"
> that it was over 12 twelve years of *Rethuglican control* over
> (haha) "our" gov't that brought about all of the *deregulation* of
> the banking and other financial "services" industries that opened to
> these doors to being with, for what has led up to today. Let's just
> call the blame game it what it *is*. "Weapons of Mass
> Distraction" (and / or "Deception")_
>
> And of course, in true Rethuglican neoconartist fashion, when the
> sh*it finally hits the fan, then they turn around and try to *blame*
> someone *else* for it. Same old crap from these vicious and greedy,
> self-centered rats, every damn time. Typical bullies who will gladly
> kick the little guy when he is down and attack any other more
> vulnerable and / or less defensible folks. Check history for more
> details.
>
> I also agree mostly with what this guy Jeff below is saying, except
> for one thing, and that is that for the greater part, no one was
> ever *forced* to accept *any* credit card offer, especially any
> additional ones, other than the first one they may have *had* to
> have gotten, for the simple fact that it is next-to-impossible to
> get by in our capitalist-dominated and "free" market country and
> globalization world without one anymore. But also, when some folks
> are *constantly* barraged with tempting card offers all of the time,
> and especially if they have been stuck in the lower spectrum of wage
> earners for all of their lives for *whatever* reasons, and reasons
> that may have been insurmountable or out of their immediate control
> up to this point, or also when they are *impressionable* and
> *inexperienced teenagers*, or certain other types of "easy
> targets", then it is sometimes hard to resist to finally succumbing
> to such offers, and many of those offers that usually also have some
> *very fine print* that should be noticed *closely*.
>
> Kick the Rethugs *out* of office (and send a bunch to *prison* too)
> and the watch how *fast* the nation (and the world) starts to turn
> around for the *better*,
> and then continues to improve, and also *never* allow the Rethugs to
> gain full power *ever* again. Again, just check US political history
> for the last 100 years or so, see what kind of "pattern" that ya may
> notice? When the 'thugs are in power, the economy eventually heads
> down the toilet, and ever larger deficits are left behind,
> and the country is left in a *huge mess* for the Dems to have to
> clean up, but not before a lot of Rethugs, and those masters who
> they serve, have *gotten away with* a *lot* of the *tax payers'*
> money.
>
> And when the 'thugs are in power, it is when *more wars* get
> started. Some of history is there to be *learned* from , and *not*
> repeated. Think about it...
>
> -Rev. Fever
> Portland,OR
>
>> That's a tough one. For one thing, a lot of people probably thought
>> they could pay back the loans--or at least hoped they could. When
>> they discovered (later) that their interest rate skyrocketed, then
>> they could no longer afford to pay. Second, I don't necessarily
>> blame the consumers--at least not all the time. It's pretty tough
>> to turn down the opportunity to buy a home (or take some other
>> large loan) if someone is going to offer you the money. I blame the
>> lenders, in other words. Another example: I have so many credit
>> cards (and I get solicitations every week for more) with a total
>> credit line of an obscene amount of money. Why in the world not
>> just one bank--but several--would extend me credit lines of 20K or
>> more, I have no idea. But they do. I could get in serious financial
>> trouble very easily. Would I be to blame, or do the banks bear some
>> responsibility as well?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
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