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Re: AW: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai
Daryl Shawn wrote:
> Whoa...is there time-stretching, apart from pitch? Or are you referring
> to the simultaneous pitch/time shifting?
Yes, it will time stretch at normal pitch,
...or it will do the simultaneous pitch time thing.
Not both though.
>
> Artifacts = yummy!
and when you overdub on a time stretched loop you get double the
artifacts.
>
> I didn't realize it had reverb. I'm never too interested in that but if
> it's crappy and "mushy" as you say I might find it useful.
It's a rather long reverb, and is somewhat obviously digital.
It's intended just to diffuse one of the echo settings, but can also
be got on it's own with a bit of tweaking.
>
> Too bad about the batteries.
>
> thanks, Andy -
you're welcome
andy
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> Rainer pretty much covers the subject here, so I'll just add a couple
>> of points
>>
>> Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote:
>>> Short summary: got one, don't really need it (had already two looper
>>> stompboxes), but didn't return it.
>>>
>>> Slightly longer version:
>>> There are three things that suck:
>>> 1. varispeed is only available for the looper, not for the delays
>>> 2. you have to hold down one footswitch for recording/overdubbing
>>> (not so much of a problem if you're wearing shoes)
>>
>> I don't have any problem without shoes, but it's a somewhat clunky way
>> to make a loop and not so easy to get it accurate
>>
>>> 3. no independent mix control for looper and delay
>>
>> In general you can either control the delays, or the loop, but not both.
>> You can't stop the Loop without turning off the delays.
>>
>>> 4. only delays up to 3 seconds
>>
>> and tap time won't go up to the full 3s
>>
>> 5. Won't run on batteries
>> 6. To re-record a loop the process is hit Bypass, hold Tap for 500mS
>> or more, hit Bypass, then make the new loop.
>> 7. Time stretching is full of artefacts ( could be a plus )
>>
>> 8. Reverb (which can be got on it's own) is digital mush (again, could
>> ba a plus)
>>
>>>
>>> Well, 2 is not so much of a letdown, and for 4 I already got the
>>> DD20, but 1
>>> and 3 are.
>>>
>>> Nice things:
>>> 1. you can varispeed the loop
>>> 2. lowpass/highpass (which sits in the feedback for the delays, but
>>> unfortunately in the output path for the looper)
>>> 3. you can adjust feedback level while overdubbing (EDPers call
>this
>>> "secondary feedback")
>>
>> EDPers call it feedback, "secondary feedback" is a Mobius term
>>
>>
>>> 4. small package
>>
>> 5. "Instant Reverse" : just hold "tap" and you hear what you just
>> played coming out backwards for up to 6s( as an alternative to the
>> loop). This function alone makes the pedal worthwhile, great for band
>> use.
>>
>> 6.Reverse echo is capable of some interesting textures.
>>
>> 7. Can be persuaded to be a flanger or chorus with a bit of effort.
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