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Re: problem w/live looping using mic
great thread,just curious what type of in ear monitors
are u using or would recomend?
Luis
--- Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com> wrote:
> this is my #1 problem onstage when looping on cello.
> i deal with it by:
>
> 1) being very specific in my stage plot about how i
> am positioned
> relative to the speakers. no speakers should be
> pointing at me and i
> try to be positioned at least 6 feet behind the
> nearest PA speakers.
> i.e. the back of the stage! some venues (dance
> clubs) have speakers
> pointing towards the stage, i get them to turn those
> off for my
> performance. and setups where the PA is angled and
> the stage falls in
> the sound arc. i won't play those stages anymore.
>
> 2) related to that, if using an amplifier, set it in
> front of you and
> do your looping behind it.
>
> 3) don't do looping while on top of a subwoofer.
> often they are
> underneath the stage. find out where they are and
> move away from them.
>
> 4) certain kinds of microphones are worse than
> others. make sure your
> mic is directional and is not picking up sound
> behind it.
>
> 5) before soundcheck explain the technicalities of
> what you're doing
> to the soundperson. there is a physical limit to how
> loud i can go
> before sonic chaos ensues. i work with the
> soundperson to find this
> threshold during soundcheck so they can experience
> it.
>
> 6) in ear monitors.
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:29 AM, Chris D'Errico wrote:
>
> >
> > Greetings all...
> >
> > I'm new to this list, & to the world of looping,
> but I have already
> > run into a problem that I'm hoping someone could
> help me with:
> >
> > When looping vocals/harmonica in live
> performance-- through a PA,
> > or guitar amp, or both-- the microphone picks up
> the sound of the
> > PA/amp & starts to record itself recording loops--
> sort of like a
> > "mirror looking into a mirror" effect... At low
> volume it's not
> > much of a problem, but at the higher volume
> necessary to push the
> > sound out to an audience in a decent size room, I
> can't stop the
> > sound from the PA/amp from bleeding into the mic.
> It gets worse the
> > more layers I try to add to the loop, with the
> live mic rerecording
> > the sound, it eventually causes a thin, tinny,
> high pitched
> > feedback sound that destroys the process &
> performance. I never use
> > monitors because that just makes it worse-- the
> mic picks that up
> > also.
> >
> > Other singers out there who create live loops must
> be familiar with
> > this problem, it's got be very common. Is there
> any possible way to
> > counter this? Any ideas on a workable set-up?
> >
> > I use an old Shure mic into a few stompbox pedals
> into an Akai
> > Headrush loop pedal & out to an old tube amp which
> has a line-out
> > that I run into the PA system when needed.
> >
> > Thanks for your time & attention,
> >
> > Chris D.
> > Las Vegas, Nevada
> >
>
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>
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