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Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion
not a one of us has been able to sync the RC-50 to an external source
right. Roland are aware of this. Please call them over and over till
we get it worked out.
I don't have a "both" setting in my RC-50... I have internal, remote,
auto and patch
remote I assume means external
hmmmm, what's that about? where are you getting "both"?
Teddy
On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:31 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:
> Regarding the use of the RC50 as a slave device I am not conviced
> that it really syncs as a slave.
>
> It appears that when the RC50 recieves a MIDI-START message, it
> attempts to extract the tempo from the incoming MIDI-CLOCK treating
> it like a "tap" tempo then otherwise continue in "free run" mode.
>
> I would find the RC50 more useful it they dropped the requirement
> for a MIDI-CLOCK signal and provided settings for "Internal" or
> "External" sync. (Instead they have "internal" and "both"). I
> don't see a need for "both". With External sync, the RC50 would
> simply sync in real time with the incoming clock. Then one would
> start/stop the loops with foot pedals or CC events (same as when
> using internal sync).
>
> My hunch (not knowing the software internals) is that the RC50 is
> designed to run with its internal clock in free-run mode and
> doesn't continuously sync with the incoming clock source. The
> reason I say this is because when I do an accelerando or retard on
> the master tempo the RC50 doesn't track it. It requires a MIDI
> start message for the RC50 to sample the incoming tempo and set its
> internal clock to the tempo that it detects. As noted, the problem
> with this arrangement is that the tempo detection is innaccurate
> and it doesn't track in sync with the master.
>
> Now, in all fairness, I have only tried syncing to me computer
> (Firepod) interface and haven't tried it with other sources.
> However, from the posts I am reading I am getting the impression
> that the issue is with the RC50 rather than the Firepod.
> Incidentally, I can easily sync my K2600's internal clock to the
> Firepod.
>
> So, my question is: Has ANYONE successfully synced the RC50 to an
> external clock? If there is a definate "yes" then I'll go back to
> the drawing board, though I am running out of options here.
>
> In the meantime, I am using some VST delays that are part of Cubase
> SX3 to accomplish my looping -- I am about 5 1/2 minutes into a new
> composition and the first in which I will incorporate live loops.
> The info on this mailing list and on the links from this list have
> been very valuable to me and I appreciate the contributions of one
> and all.
>
> -- Kevin
>
>
> Quoting Teddy <teddybutter@mac.com>:
>
>> call them once a week to complain about this stuff. If they don't
>> hear
>> from us it will never get fixed.
>>
>> squeaky wheels unite
>>
>> Teddy