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Re: Further OT: Selmer Clones (was RE: Joscho Stephan)



Warren;
Just curious - what kind of vintage archtop are you playing?  I'm an 
Epi player/ recovering collector :). - Paul
On May 3, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Warren Sirota wrote:

> Thanks for the info, David. My purchases are constrained now, but I 
> often
> debate in my head the merits of selling my vintage archtop and using 
> the
> proceeds for a non-vintage archtop plus... Well, who knows? One or two 
> other
> guitars, to be sure.
>
> Best wishes,
> Warren Sirota
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Rolling [mailto:david_rolling@sympatico.ca]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:06 PM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: RE: Further OT: Selmer Clones (was RE: Joscho Stephan)
>>
>>
>> Hey Warren,
>>
>> I'm up in Canada, so I had to buy online, and I started with
>> a Gitane (Saga)
>> 250M, which is the long scale (27") "lead" guitar w/small
>> oval hole. Cost me
>> around $600 US from Elderly's.. VERY brash loud guitar. fast
>> attack, quick
>> decay.. definitely in the ballpark soundwise- but you gotta
>> use those light
>> silver coated 'manouche' style strings, and the guitar was shipping
>> w/generic bronzes. Guys like Bireli Lagrene can use a 25 cent
>> dunlop pick,
>> but I also NEED a fat (2-3mm!!) gypsyjazz pick.. I like
>> Wegens (at 15 bucks
>> a pop! I've only got one!!).
>>
>> The big problem w/the 250M was the neck profile - skinnier
>> than an electric
>> 'shredder', I just couldn't get used to it, so I traded up for a John
>> Jorgenson signature Gitane (DG300) which cost around a grand.
>> Warmer tone
>> (rosewood & spruce as opposed to maple) BUT BEST OF ALL, a
>> real chunky
>> selmeroid neck- highly recommended.
>>
>> Michael Horowitz @djangobooks.com has started selling a whole
>> slew of GJ
>> guitars, and this one's almost $200 cheaper than I paid -
>> plus he's got a
>> guy who'll do a setup, so the guitar'll be good to go right
>> out the box
>> (I've had to do some work on more than one Korean made guitar).
>>
>> I've bought some books, DVDs & CDs from Michael, and I
>> wouldn't hesitate to
>> buy a guitar from him. If I ever decide to get really serious
>> about this
>> style, I'd probably get something a bit more upscale
>> (Deii'Arte, maybe?)
>> from Michael, but the DG300 is actually a pretty fine guitar.. Angelo
>> DeBarre was playing one last time I saw him, and it sounded
>> just as good as
>> any Dupont, Favino, etc.. and Joscho himself was playing a
>> Hofner!?! if
>> memory serves, but cats like him can make anything sound good..
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>> david
>>
>>> From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
>>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Subject: Further OT: Selmer Clones (was RE: Joscho Stephan)
>>> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 11:44:42 -0400
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: David Rolling [mailto:david_rolling@sympatico.ca]
>>>  any of them could pull off 1 1/10 of what this guy does.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a long-time looper myself, but as a guitarist as
>> well, Django's
>>>> always been an inspiration to me. I recently got a Chinese-made
>>>> Selmer clone (something else the snobs turn their noses up at -
>>>> everybody knows you've
>>>> got to have a $2500 guitar to play Django) but if I sat in a
>>>> room practicing
>>>> for 100 years, I'd still be unable to play like Joscho..
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Me neither... But what kind of guitar did you get, what'd
>> you pay for
>>> it, how do you like it? (if you don't mind...)
>>
>>
>