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Re: Building a rackmount looping computer as an alternative to the Receptor for Mobius
I have to admit that, as a person who's never used an EDP much less seen
one
in person, I find it quite difficult to use Mobius, but understand if it's
made for folks familiar with the EDP, that's pretty much a "by design"
issue.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Cox" <dougcox@pdq.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, 17 October, 2005 21:52 PM
Subject: Re: Building a rackmount looping computer as an alternative to
the
Receptor for Mobius
> Jeff,
>
> Mobius kicks ass. Period, end of story.
>
> I'd like to hear the stances of anyone who is "irritated" by Mobius?
> Maybe I'll have to go back and read Kim's 3 page diatribe (do I *have*
> to?) to see what you're referring to, but outside of Kim, who the hell
> thinks Mobius is a bad idea?!?!
>
> Keep looping, bro.
> Doug
>
> Jeff Larson wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, yes, the "non real-time" aspect of PCs has been beaten to death
>> here. Sure it is a concern, but frankly it is overblown. Time will
>> tell. I do however completely agree that purpose built hardware will
>> be better than a general purpose computer attempting to do the same
>> thing. No question. Unfortunately, no one makes hardware that
>> does what I want so I'm forced to use a computer. It is a sad, sad
>> existence. Pity me. Luckily I'm not "pro" :-)
>>
>> >> It would cost what, 12 or 13 thousand to duplicate what mobius will
>do
>> >> with edp units! and that doesn't even consider the nightmare of
>trying
>> >> to wire up and control 16 edp's
>> >
>> > Well, you also have to consider the whole ethical dilemma there, and
>> > what your conscience allows.
>>
>> Ok I'll bite. Ethical dilemma? Oh I get it, did I "steal" your ideas?
>> Well, they weren't hard to steal, they were all published quite nicely.
>> Everyone on this list whines about how manufacturers aren't listening
>> to the looping community by failing to incorporate some popular feature
>> into their product. If they did would that be stealing? Do you
>> own the concept of "multiply"?
>>
>> Some people believe I somehow copied the actual assembly code off the
>> EDP ROMs and built an emulator to run that in Windows. This is untrue
>> and I would in fact consider that unethical. Mobius was a *lot* of
>> work. I have invested well over a thousand hours in it. Had I chosen
>> to make my usual consulting rate during those hours I could have made
>> a lot of money. Now I give it away for free for the benefit of
>> those that can't afford to spend thousands of dollars on hardware.
>> I'm sorry if you consider that unethical, I don't.
>>
>> And as I've said before, I really don't think Mobius is affecting the
>> sales of EDPs at all. Based on some of the feedback I get I've
>> probably even sold a few EDPs for you. There are plenty of people out
>> there that are curious about the EDP but they're not going to spend
>> a thousand dollars to find out. Now they can get a pretty good idea,
>> but for all the reasons you so eloquently point out they don't
>> want to deal with a laptop on stage. So they decide to buy an EDP.
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> I have an enormous amount of admiration for the EDP designers. This
>> device quite literally changed my life. It saddens me that Mobius
>> irritates some of you, but I honestly cannot understand how it
>> adversely affects you in any way. No one else was going to do this,
>> it is incredibly difficult and you can't make money selling it.
>> This is my hobby, I build the things I want and if there are other
>> tone deaf rhythmically challenged amateurs that like it too, well
>> fine I get some karma points.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
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