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Re: EDP Hiss
Well i plug into a Littlelabs Instrument Distro 3.0 which is a
re-amping
module, with D.I. ect, and it's cut most hiss, so i don't hear my main
signal
through the Echo-Plex at all, only the looped signal. so i can have an
Echo-plex D.I. signal,
plus my main signal separate, and it's made a huge difference having
that separation.
http://www.littlelabs.com/
On 06/03/2005, at 5:03 AM, Tom Combs wrote:
> Ha...I dug through the archives and found this (see below). I did as
> Kim suggested (more input, less output) and now I'm getting much
> better performance.
>
> It makes sense to me now. Learn something new everyday...
>
> Thanks to everyone for your input.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> http://www.loopersdelight.com/LDarchive/200406/msg00558.html
>
> From Kim Flint to Jesse Lucas.....
>
> At 02:48 PM 6/25/2004, Jesse Ray Lucas wrote:
>> Tell me that my gain staging is wrong, but it doesn't matter if I go
>> direct
>> in, or through a preamp. I've can have a healthy green light on the
>> input
>> signal indicator and the output cranked up, but the loops always seem
>> to
>> have mad hiss to them.
>
> probably your gains are set wrong. Turn the input up higher, and the
> output lower to compensate. If it isn't clipping or the limiter isn't
> obviously kicking in, you have more headroom to use. Make sure you are
> using the loop path for setting gains, as it has less dynamic range
> than the direct. If you don't use the full dynamic range, the noise
> floor ends up sounding relatively louder. That is probably what you
> are experiencing.
>
>> Not the direct signal, just the loop playback.
>
> The digital path (of anything usually) has less dynamic range than the
> analog path, and so will have a higher relative noise floor when
> compared to the analog path.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> kim
>
>
>
> Jesse Lucas wrote:
>
>> Tom Combs wrote:
>>
>>> Well, with nothing plugged into the input, and the input level set
>>> to minimum, where is the possibility of improper gain staging on my
>>> part? The output of my EDP goes directly into a Mackie 1202-VLZ
>>> Pro. If there were a gain problem associated with the output stage
>>> of the EDP, then I'd expect to hear the hiss when a loop is not
>>> playing..
>>
>>
>> I'm just passing on the answers which were handed to me before. Not
>> saying I believe them or anything.
>>
>> You learn to live with it, or you move on and find something else
>> that works for you.
>>
>> I have a preference for dirty sound, so incorporating the EDP's hiss
>> wasn't that big a deal for me. Still, sometimes it would be nice if
>> it was clean.
>>
>> -J
>>
>