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Re: CHEAP SOLUTION to Breakbeat creation for Live Looping was: BREAKBEATS..................
Yeah Man
sorry my typing is ridiculously bad, as is my spelling!
Yep Akai MPC2000xl and Mpc 2000
I have seen them for as little as £250 approx $350
They are simply wonderfully ergonomic and musically inspiring machines to
use. Every musical friend who has seen me jamming with bands using mine
wants ta buy one. When u see one in action u will dig it! Smacking out drum
beats live on an MPC is great fun!!!!!
u can even use drum sticks on the pads.
G
on 10/3/03 9:43 pm, bIz (looper) at bIz-looper@groovetronica.com wrote:
>
> Do you mean an mpc2000?
>
> Around here they are still going for ~$1,000 used.
>
> bIz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Smith" <geoff.smith15@btopenworld.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:56 AM
> Subject: Re: CHEAP SOLUTION to Breakbeat creation for Live Looping was:
> BREAKBEATS..................
>
>
>> Unless I'm wrong (don't have time to read everything)
>> No one has mentioned the akai mdc2000 which can be picked up relatively
>> cheaply second hand.
>> This allows u to create drum loops or anything live. Simply put it into
>> record metronome on use the phones output so u can hear the click, and
>use
>> the other 8 outputs for the drum samples. Only u hear the click then.
>> U can change tracks mute tracks etc. as your going along by simply
>leaving
>> it in record mode and changing tracks.
>> Its one of the best solutions I've used, would like to try the sequencer
>> that that howie B uses though.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>> on 10/3/03 5:26 am, Rick Walker/Loop.pooL at GLOBAL@cruzio.com wrote:
>>
>>> Viz a vis, a cheap solution to breakbeat creation for live looping:
>>>
>>> One really cool thing you can do (especially on a PC with the fabulous
>>> FRUITY LOOPS PRO which, in my humble opinion is the best drum machine
>in
> the
>>> world and just about to get way better........watch for next month's
>>> COMPUTER MUSIC magazine from the UK for a cover article covering it) is
> to
>>> program really cool drumbeats on a home
>>> computer and then burn them to a CD.
>>>
>>> Most mixing boards have stereo ins and it is really cheap to buy a
> walkman
>>> styled
>>> portable CD player these days.
>>>
>>> You can either resample the grooves onto your sampler of just play to
> the
>>> tracks
>>> (make sure that you have at least ten minutes per groove recorded so
>you
>>> don't run
>>> out during a long performance) if you are not planning to either loop
>or
>>> retrigger.
>>>
>>> the degree of sophistication that you can get with a program like
>Fruity
>>> Loops Pro
>>> is so much more vast and FAST!!!! than you can with a hardware drum
> machine.
>>>
>>> also, unless you have midi syncability with an EDP, a REPEATER or an
>old
>>> JAMPERSON
>>> you will have to rely on your own rhythmic sense for retriggering
> anyway.
>>>
>>> a lot of people shy away from this approach but I find it can be very
>>> effective in
>>> a live performance to use prerecorded all original drum programming on
>a
>>> burned CD
>>> at a fraction of the cost of either a dedicated hardware drum maching
>or
>>> a very expensive laptop*.
>>>
>>> Besides, with programs like Fruity Loops and the cool VST drum machines
> (and
>>> even REASON) you don't have to take a whole load of processing and
> filtering
>>> gear with you to a gig to get a sophisticated and 'breathing' drum
>track
>>> live.
>>>
>>> try it..............you'll like it.
>>>
>>> When I get back from my summer tour of Europe and the British Isles in
>>> August, I'll
>>> post a longer post on how to program more realistic drum computer
>>> programming (even if you are an e-bow wielding ambient guitarist who is
>>> rhythmicall challenged..........LOL!) using Fruity Loops if there is
> enough
>>> interest
>>>
>>> later,
>>>
>>> Rick Walker
>>> www.looppool.info
>>>
>>>
>>> *(and hey, while we are at it, why does the laptop world lag so damned
> far
>>> behind the desktop computer world in the musical realm? Inexpensive
>>> stereo firewire solutions for live laptop recording are non-existent so
> far,
>>> though there is rumour of a $400 M-Audio stereo firewire box coming out
> at
>>> the end of March).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>