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Re: vst loop plugin
I would love to support any beta-testing efforts... i'm an Ableton Live
user as well..
best,
todd
On 12/15/02 2:15 AM, "Paul Weissman" <paul-mailinglists@nioterra.com>
wrote:
>
> great ideas, richard. sounds like you've got a bit of a combination of
> ableton's live and the little plug we're working on.
>
> the biggest limitations designing (and using) applications intended for
>live
> use, in my experience, is in designing the input/control interaction with
> the user. i personally dislike using the mouse for live performance...
>it
> just seems to slow/inefficient. with a keyboard or midi inteface, one
>hand
> can control many functions simultaneously and quickly. the trick then
>is to
> come up with a small, but deep, enough set of controls and have them
>tied to
> an interface with enough visual feedback to make the abstract controls
> meaningful and familiar.
>
> and, of course, you want to design something that is practical enough to
> implement. so what controls do you keep? which are the most fun to work
> with live?
>
> i'm hearing the following features:
> - input monitors
> - visual overview of samples
> - loop marker creation
> - loop marker manipulation (sliding, changing length)
> - independent loop start/end point manipulation (almost the same as the
> last)
> - multiple loops (only doing one per instance right now)
> - keyboard loop triggering w/optional quantized trigger
> (this is almost in there already, only via midi though)
> - loop sequencing
>
> any other ideas from you guys?
>
> by the way, a lot of what you're talking about will be immediately
>available
> with the combined use of a v-stack/console like application and several
> instances of the plug we're building spread out on multiple effects
>slots.
> nothing is stopping you from having multiple instances of 'looper' going
> simultaneously.
>
> i'm really excited about these new vst effects shell apps. good chance
>that
> they'll be extremely helpful to those of us who do live stuff via
>laptops.
>
> paul
>
>
>
>> From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com]
>>
>> I usually "perform" on signal processors, with input coming from
>> recordings or other players, as opposed to playing an instrument and
>> capturing loops of what I've played. I'd like a user interface that
>> lets me have a visual overview of the sound material and which will
>> give me quick access to editing and signal routing. Therefore I'd
>> like to be able to record multiple audio inputs into buffers that can
>> be either fully independent or linked together as two-channel or
>> multichannel recordings. Then I'd like to be able to loop sections of
>> these recordings either by "dropping" markers or by drag-selecting
>> segments.
>>
>> Once I've defined one or more loops I'd like to be able to slide them
>> around, either by dragging with the mouse or by assigning a MIDI
>> controller. I'd want to control the start and end points of the loops
>> either independently or as a pair, so I could dynamically change the
>> length of a loop or so I could slide it back and forth through the
>> recorded material. It would be good to be able to do this with more
>> than one loop simultaneously.
>>
>> It should be possible to define multiple loops within a recording and
>> to assign the selection of these loops to a graphic or physical
>> controller such as a MIDI or QWERTY keyboard. Jumping from one loop
>> to another should be optionally either instant or queueable, so that
>> each loop would play completely through before switching to the next.
>>
>> A refinement of this loop sequencing system would be to save
>> sequences as presets that could then be triggered. This would allow
>> the creation of multi-loop phrases.
>>
>> The user interface for this stuff could be complicated to design, but
>> I'd like it to reflect graphically the "objectness" of the loops and
>> loop sequences.
>>
>>> ALSO... we still need two or three more people to help us with our vst
>>> plugin. anybody else want to help test/play with an early version of
>the
>>> above concept?
>>
>> Sign me up.
>> --
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Richard Zvonar, PhD
>> (818) 788-2202
>> http://www.zvonar.com
>> http://RZCybernetics.com
>