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3: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: New Boss Looper RC-50 22: http://www.roland.co.jp/products/boss/RC-50.html
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 18: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.roland.co.jp/products/boss/RC-50.html“...it is possible every to make the RC-50 remember roundly. Being live, you show power as a backing * tool.” Yes!On Nov 5, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Bill Edmondson wrote:Can anyone translate this page?
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 18: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.roland.co.jp/products/boss/RC-50.html“Does the RC-50 from the RC-20XL function do the point where it raises with some kind of ones?< Summary >It has explained the RC-50 function concerning the point which is raised from the RC-20XL”On Nov 5, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Bill Edmondson wrote:There is also a Q&A link and the bottom of the page.
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 18: Title: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 27: function of completeness are born in the base. LOOP STATION RC-50 which
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3: RE: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: RE: New Boss Looper RC-50 28: > base. LOOP STATION RC-50 which corresponds to stereo
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200511/msg00106:"Sub outs" on the Boss Looper RC-50
3: "Sub outs" on the Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: "Sub outs" on the Boss Looper RC-50 19: RC-50
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 36: >http://www.roland.co.jp/products/boss/RC-50.html
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 18: On Nov 5, 2005, at 1:21 PM, David Kirkdorffer wrote:OK - let's be frank about this. I want it! Me, too.All I need to know is that it’s:Stereo i/oA floor unitMade by BossGot jacks for extra pedals/switchesGot fadesGot presetsGot MIDI.I can work with this. All other contenders can now line up behind the RC-50, AFAIC. Grinning big-time! (Unless it’s $700! $499 I could live with...)dc
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3: AW: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: AW: New Boss Looper RC-50 28: (reading on, about the "guide" we read: "The RC-50 has equipped the
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 48: >> http://www.roland.co.jp/products/boss/RC-50.html
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 22: if you know, get back to me.. I did not hear the Boss RC50..GerryDoug Cox <dougcox@pdq.net> wrote:
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3: RC-50 translation 10: Subject: RC-50 translation 61: What features are new on the RC-50 compared to the RC-20XL?
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3: Re: RC-50 translation 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 translation 33: This new RC50 has similar loop/one-shot switching (on a per loop
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3: Re: RC-50 translation 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 translation 74: >What features are new on the RC-50 compared to the RC-20XL?
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3: Re:RC-50 10: Subject: Re:RC-50 20: RC-50 has loaded the convenient function which it can correspond to various application methods. When recording from CD and the like, not be conspicuous in center and point the sound which normal position is done, the function which, to practice such as in order the center cancellation function which can draw up the phrase of the karaoke and negative one simply and the sound which is recorded from the external equipment and the microphone to be able to play back with the guitar & the amplifier the flat amplifier simulating function which does sound quality revision is useful is equipped.
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 30: > RC-50 has loaded the convenient function which it can correspond to
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 21: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.roland.co.jp/products/boss/RC-50.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dboss%2Brc-50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us
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3: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 10: Subject: Re: New Boss Looper RC-50 27: > products/boss/RC-50.html
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200511/msg00144:RE: query 'real time live looping'
3: Pictures of RC-50 10: Subject: Pictures of RC-50 22: shows some good pictures of the RC-50.
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200511/msg00150:RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
3: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? 10: Subject: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? 18: i don't know if this has come up, but is the feeling out there that this unit, the rc-50, will have the capacity for doing loops of different length simultaneously? ie, an acoustici guitarist recording an 8 bar chord progression over a 2 bar percussion loop?
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200511/msg00151:Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
3: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? 27: > this unit, the rc-50, will have the capacity for doing loops of
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200511/msg00164:Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
3: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? 23: Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
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3: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? 18: Ooo! PLEASE keep us updated on how this works out! VERY interesting...On Nov 8, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Mark Smart wrote:I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts and ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all the looping.
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200511/msg00166:AW: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
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200511/msg00174:Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V05 #727
35: RC-50 is structured to do 99 loops.
3: Re:Rc-50 again 10: Subject: Re:Rc-50 again 30: >As for the RC-50, while re-raising the phrase, tap * tempo and outside of
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3: Boss RC-50 approx price 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 approx price 21: I've been following the Boss RC-50 thread closely and trying to dig up more
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200511/msg00592:Re: New here and looking for a looping device
18: Welcome, JanoschI thought there was a topic on this I could direct you to at the loopers delight site, but I can’t find it, so here’s a brief over-simplified run-down on an essential point you probably already understand, but just in case:Loopers VS. DelaysSome devices, like the EDP, Boomerang, and the Boss Loop Station (and up-coming RC-50) are dedicated loopers: You set the loop time on the fly, with foot-switches, so that you set them running with a click, then decide when you’ve recorded enough with another click, which also starts playback from the beginning. There aren’t many of these devices to pick from.Most other ”looping” devices are actually long delay lines: they are always looping and the loop length is equal to the delay time; you can’t reset this while you’re recording. Sounds like all the devices you’ve used so far are delays.I also started with long delay devices, using a volume pedal in front for over-dubs and the feedback controls to replace/fade out; whatever delay time you set (usually the maximum), you get very good at playing to fit...and you also tend to make this the default loop-length for everything you create. When I got an EDP—a looper, not a delay—my looping experience changed significantly, simply because I could for all practical purposes record as long or as little as I wanted before deciding to start playback. It was sort of like losing a pulse and gaining spontaneity: no more anticipating the end of the delay time looming up ahead, or wishing it was longer or shorter. It’s nice, of course, to have both types of tool at your disposal; if you can only have one, you should certainly try them both before you settle. Good hunting!dcOn Nov 27, 2005, at 6:42 AM, Janosch K. wrote:So i experimented a lot with loops, even if the device only has 5 seconds of delay time it was a very nice experience and I can spend hours with it, with adding new stuff constantly and fading out the old stuff by controlling the feedback.
200511/msg00598:Re: New here and looking for a looping device
46: > up-coming RC-50) are dedicated loopers: You set the loop time on the
200512/msg00660:Boss RC-50 shows up on US website
3: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website 21: http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/
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200512/msg00661:Re: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website
3: Re: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website 21: http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/specs.html
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200512/msg00662:Re: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website
3: Re: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website 18: thats it ...im gettin one one should be enough. ill still respect edps & looperlatives in the morning. use dl4 for delay"imagine that"into the rc 50.what more could a looper ask? i know -an inner oblongatta music interface...but till then switches and knobs will suffice. Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote: Still short on details though:http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/
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200512/msg00664:Re: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website
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200512/msg00665:Boss RC-50 shows up without feedback control
3: Boss RC-50 shows up without feedback control 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 shows up without feedback control 31: >http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/specs.html
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200512/msg00666:Re: Boss RC-50 shows up without feedback control
3: Re: Boss RC-50 shows up without feedback control 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 shows up without feedback control 19: danny.Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote: Yeah, kind of a deal breaker--altho might be fun to run an EDP into--Gary-----Original Message-----From: Doug Cox Still no word on feedback control. Anybody see it in there? I don't :(David Kirkdorffer wrote:>More specs here: >>http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/specs.html>http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/images/info_04L_L.jpg>http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/features.html>>>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Travis Hartnett" >>>Still short on details though:>>http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/
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200512/msg00684:Re: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website
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3: RE: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website 10: Subject: RE: Boss RC-50 shows up on US website 19: I wonder if the RC-50 allows you to transition between loops (or what they
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200512/msg00721:Re: VG-88 and Roland GR-33 dissapearing rumors
36: of the new RC-50 looper and an internal mixer/router. I know I'm dreaming anyway.
200601/msg00109:Re: Guidance In Buying First Loop Machine
26: lo! What is this? Be aware of the Boss RC-50! Look here 29: Review of the Boss RC-50
200601/msg00112:Re: Guidance In Buying First Loop Machine
19: Roland page on RC-50, doesn't have price, but seems to meet your other 23: http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/index.html 30: > Review of the Boss RC-50
200601/msg00117:Re: Guidance In Buying First Loop Machine
20: The Boss RC-50 looks very enticing. Thanks David, for making me aware of this. Is there any word on when this will be available for purchase, or a rough price guess?
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3: Re: RC-50 at Thomann 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 at Thomann 33: encourages me to wait for the RC-50 to reach the US. :)
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3: RC-50 Availability in Europe 10: Subject: RC-50 Availability in Europe 23: the RC-50 will most likely be in german stores (such as Thomann) by
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3: Re:Boss RC-50 10: Subject: Re:Boss RC-50 26: http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_room_catdet.asp?id=RC50
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3: Re:Boss RC-50 10: Subject: Re:Boss RC-50 34: track), Boss RC-50, Digitech JamMan, Guitar Rig looper, Zoom G2 etc. I
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3: Re: Boss RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 43: > looper (4 track), Boss RC-50, Digitech JamMan, Guitar Rig looper, Zoom
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3: RE: Boss RC-50 10: Subject: RE: Boss RC-50 22: Again, this calls for all those interested in something like the RC-50 to
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3: RE: Boss RC-50 10: Subject: RE: Boss RC-50 18: skinny girlish long haired dude with an accent?hazard factor <artists@hazardfactor.com> wrote: Anyone know who the demo-guy was? Lat time I saw a Roland demo-guy with thelooper, he was playing the solo to Eurpoe's 'The Final Countdown' over themidi'd backing track stored in the looper...yay.Again, this calls for all those interested in something like the RC-50 toflood Roland with requests for an update. I do the same with Line6- the DL4I use would double its usefulness if it had feedback control. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com> > Sorta blows my mind that very few of the new mass-market > loopers have feedback control. The Boss demo-guy not even > knowing what it was seems to reinforce the fact that this > (IMO) fundamental feature is getting
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3: Re: Boss RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 23: http://www.musik-service.de/boss-rc-50-loop-station-prx395753593en.aspx
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3: Re: Boss RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 42: Boss RC-50 is unclear. The fade in/out function can be set over a complete
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200601/msg00919:RE: Anybody @ Namm? Please check the Electrix booth
51: RC50, which may become a real item for those wanting a fairly conventional
21: RC-50 but slightly different. Basically i'd like to take a sampler device 29: similar unit. Sounds like the RC-50 might be the easiest option, anyone
21: >new Boss RC-50 but slightly different. Basically i'd like to take a 27: >like the RC-50 might be the easiest option, anyone know when it's
200601/msg00945:RE: Anybody @ Namm? Please check the Electrix booth
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30: >>RC-50 but slightly different. Basically i'd like to take a sampler 36: >>the SP-404 or similar unit. Sounds like the RC-50 might be the easiest
200601/msg00957:RE: HELP PLEASE: RC 20XL and Digitech JamMan
23: fact I'm hoping to get some RC-50 spec's to support that.
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200601/msg00972:RE: HELP PLEASE: RC 20XL and Digitech JamMan
74: style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Go for a Boss RC50
35: >>>similar to the new Boss RC-50 but slightly different. Basically 41: >>>SP-404 or similar unit. Sounds like the RC-50 might be the easiest
200601/msg01049:Boss RC-50 Now Available (Pre-Orders)
3: Boss RC-50 Now Available (Pre-Orders) 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 Now Available (Pre-Orders) 18: Hi all. This afternoon, did a search. Looks like the Boss RC-50 is available at most online retailers now. Street price is 499.99 and the targeted ship date is sometime in March, 2006. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Boss+RC-50&btnG=Google+Search David
200601/msg01060:Re: HELP PLEASE: RC 20XL and Digitech JamMan
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200601/msg01090:Re: LONG LIVE the EDP and the LOOPERLATIVE was: edp R.I.P ...long live the looperlative
18: yea your right rick i dont know if was ranting with that title or trying to ruffel feathers.there would be no looperlative without the hard work of the creators of the edp.i am just gifted in fanning the fires of controversy.it how my criminal mind works.i wont be able to afford edp or looperlative,so for me the rc50 is crowned king of my world.sometimes i stir the pot too much.sorry. scary. "loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: I
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200601/msg01111:Re: LONG LIVE the EDP and the LOOPERLATIVE was: edp R.I.P...long live the looperlative
21: >i wont be able to afford edp or looperlative,so for me the rc50 is 27: the RC-50.
29: with a Boss RC-50. Kim's gone on about why this isn't
66: with a Boss RC-50. Kim's gone on about why this isn't
77: >with a Boss RC-50. Kim's gone on about why this isn't
200601/msg01174:Re: LONG LIVE the EDP and the LOOPERLATIVE was: edp R.I.P ...long live the looperlative
18: no way... the dd 20 is less than 50 seconds delay time max.not what this looper needs. good lookin out tho. scarymech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote: At 10:36 AM -0800 1/26/06, daniel stevenson wrote:>>i wont be able to afford edp or looperlative,so for me the rc50 is >crowned king of my world.FWIW, mebbe take a look at the new EH 2880 Looper instead. At least you get a feedback control (of a sort; according to Kim's post, it only takes effect during overdubs). And it's only a little more than the RC-50.Or, for the same
47: I like the way the boss rc-50 has clearly labeled buttons and knobs, So
200602/msg00137:Godin-istas Unite! (was Vortex and acoustic guitar)
30: some kind of upgraded looper EDP or Boss RC-50) in the effects loop. Synth
200602/msg00157:Re: Godin-istas Unite! (was Vortex and acoustic guitar)
45: >replaced by some kind of upgraded looper EDP or Boss RC-50) in the
200602/msg00159:Re: Godin-istas Unite! (was Vortex and acoustic guitar)
60: >replaced by some kind of upgraded looper EDP or Boss RC-50) in the
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25: does that the RC-50 (another looper no one has used yet) wouldn't do
18: Thanks for the e-mail Kim. This device seems more along the line of loopers like new Boss RC-50. What I was looking for was more of a MIDI looper, which would be a sequencer and a sampler at the same time, most importantly, the one that would allow for "on the fly" style of MIDI drum looping. Thanks a lot for the e-mail. RaleKim Flint <kflint@loopers-delight.com> wrote: At 08:44 PM 2/6/2006, John Tidwell wrote:>Did anyone see a demo of the Electro-Harmonix looper>at NAMM? I assume it would have some interesting>features.Yes, I got a good demo. I guess Bill missed it, but if you asked the booth people they had a demo guy in their sound-proof room with the EH 2880 Super Multi-Track Looper set up. I meant to post about it sooner, and better do it quick
28: > like new Boss RC-50. What I was looking for was more of a MIDI looper,
27: Thanks for the e-mail Kim. This device seems more along the line of loopers like new Boss RC-50. What I was looking for was more of a MIDI looper, which would be a sequencer and a sampler at the same time, most importantly, the one that would allow for "on the fly" style of MIDI drum looping. Thanks a lot for the e-mail. RaleKim Flint <kflint@loopers-delight.com> wrote: At 08:44 PM 2/6/2006, John Tidwell wrote:>Did anyone see a demo of the Electro-Harmonix looper>at NAMM? I assume it would have some interesting>features.Yes, I got a good demo. I guess Bill missed it, but if you asked the booth people they had a demo guy in their sound-proof room with the EH 2880 Super Multi-Track Looper set up. I meant to post about it sooner, and better do it quick
47: > like new Boss RC-50. What I was looking for was more of a MIDI looper,
200602/msg00315:Re: Hardware Drum Looper Recommedations
18: Thanks again to all of you who replied. This really helps me. I have a couple more questions though: Rick, in my previous posting I forgot to ask if you could please clarify for me whether ‘MIDI Solutions Active MIDI Thru Box’ would work if I wanted to use Alesis SR-16 as my master MIDI clock for Boss RC-50 looper, while 21: 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify">My primary instrument, and the one I would be using the majority of time during performances, is guitar. I have DL4 and was considering getting RC-50 for all the guitar/bass looping. I know that RC-50 is capable of audio quantizing, but it seemed to me that I should stay in the domain of MIDI with my drum looping, knowing that these are MIDI triggered events anyway. But I am new to this subject and perhaps too conservative. This is why these postings are an enormous help to me.
200602/msg00327:Re: Hardware Drum Looper Recommedations
25: use Alesis SR-16 as my master MIDI clock for Boss RC-50 looper, wh! ile
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200602/msg00350:Sequencer for Roland Handsonic 10 -- Hardware Drum Looper Recommedations
19: have to have sampling/sound generating/triggering features simplifies my search? Are there any other devices (sequencers) suitable for this outside of those already recommended? I would still need to figure out what MIDI interface I would use to interconnect these MIDI devices and have the sequencer send MIDI clock info to Boss RC-50 looper (the one I would use for my guitar/bass loops), while at the same time sending sequencing
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200602/msg00375:Re: Sequencer for Roland Handsonic 10 -- Hardware Drum Looper Recommedations
71: > to Boss RC-50 looper (the one I would use for my
200602/msg00378:Re: Sequencer for Roland Handsonic 10 -- Hardware Drum Looper Recommedations
19: This is why after reading all of these postings I have been thinking of exploring the ideas of using Handsonic 10 and instead of doing MIDI drum looping, consider an idea of looping audio coming out of Handsonic, using the same looper that would use for my guitar/bass loops (possibly Boss RC-50 (or some other looper, if there is a more suitable one?)) I would be interested to find out if anyone else is doing anything similar, and if so, what their setup is like. Using a single hardware looper for looping of live percussions/drums and guitar/bass (or other instruments that are not prerecorded or presequenced) but are played live and looped on the fly. Rale mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote: 22: without interrupting playback. Does the fact that> this would be only a sequencer and not have to have> sampling/sound generating/triggering features> simplifies my search? Are there> any other devices (sequencers) suitable for this> outside of those already recommended? > > I would still need to figure out what MIDI> interface I would use to interconnect these MIDI> devices and have the sequencer send MIDI clock info> to Boss RC-50 looper (the one I would use for my> guitar/bass loops), while at the same time sending> sequencing MIDI data to Handsonic.Would MIDI> Solutions MIDI thru box (1 MIDI IN and two MIDI> outs) that Rick had suggested work for this?> > As I said earlier, perhaps I am too conservative> in trying to stay within MIDI with my drum looping,> so I would be opened for suggestions on how to use> an audio looper, but not being a drummer,
200602/msg00380:Re: Sequencer for Roland Handsonic 10 -- Hardware Drum Looper Recommedations
86: >> to Boss RC-50 looper (the one I would use for my
200602/msg00382:Re: Sequencer for Roland Handsonic 10 -- Hardware Drum Looper Recommedations
33: I don't know much about the RC-50 as I ignore any 69: > my guitar/bass loops (possibly Boss RC-50 (or some 150: > > to Boss RC-50 looper (the one I would use for my
200602/msg00393:More Considerations on Choosing a Right Looper
20: least have one stereo and one mono input to accommodate Handsonic 10 and a guitar being plugged in at the same time and separate outputs for these tracks. Again, if possible, I am looking for as simple solution as possible: no extra devices, interfaces, cables, etc. Money is a consideration and I would try to stay in $$$ range. I was hoping that someone familiar with Repeater, RC-50 or some of the other still-manufactured loopers would be able to recommend a suitable one. I would also be interested in finding out what
200602/msg00396:Re: Sequencer for Roland Handsonic 10 -- Hardware Drum Looper Recommedations
54: >Boss RC-50 (or some other looper, if there is a more suitable one?)) I
3: RC50 AABA looping? 10: Subject: RC50 AABA looping? 21: Does anyone know if the RC50 could be used for AABA looping? I know it
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18: you can create 2 different loops on the rang, each with a different feedback rate and it can be triggered so that the B loop plays only once and then goes immediately to A or you can have B bop along as long as you like before returning to A.....also with feedback you can have loop A or B evolve and devolve as much as you like.....when i read about all the loopers without "feedback control" i say send them to me, for some reason my rang defaults to 100% feedback at startup so there is no attenuation at all, i enjoy playing within this limitation (of course not all the time)......the RC50 looks interesteing, can't wait to try it.....mic
36: > playing within this limitation (of course not all the time)......the RC50
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22: I actually have an RC-50 yet. 32: When I saw the original posting of the RC-50 pics a
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200602/msg00861:The many sides of Robert Fripp Was: Re: RC-50 Fade Out
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18: I didn't appreciate the quality of sound I got out of a loop on the RC-20 when I used it in the store, that's the only looper they carry (small town). I've heard the Lexicon JamMan and am a big fan of it. I assume the Echoplex has a good sound for that price. But I'm curious about the Digitech JamMan and the RC-50. Can anyone vouch for the way they sound? Is it a sampling rate issue I'm hearing, or what? I'd like to hear some feedback before I purchase any of these units. Thanks!
200602/msg00894:Anyone have any tech docs on on the RC-50 yet?
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200602/msg00925:Boss RC-50 & RC-20XL fade function
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44: the price. The Digitech, RC-50, and Headrush have just never done it
81: the price. The Digitech, RC-50, and Headrush have just never done it
32: been using the DD-20 to cope with) as well, especially on the RC-50, for
43: especially on the RC-50, for which I thought I was waiting. The
59: > especially on the RC-50, for which I thought I was waiting. The
200603/msg00029:Re: BOSS ME-30 manual-FALSE ALARM
21: That's the RA-50...NOT the RC-50....The Wait
27: the RC50 doesn't feature CF.
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200603/msg00915:Re: First of possibly many stupid questions
24: as I'm to understand it, the new RC-50 has sync, unless I am reading the 29: EDP myself, but may be forced into considering the RC-50 for monetary
200603/msg00921:Re: First of possibly many stupid questions
22: >RC-20XL has no MIDI sync. But as I'm to understand it, the new RC-50 has 25: that's correct, the RC-50 has midi sync in and out. So does the new
200603/msg00924:Roland RC-50 (was: First of possibly many stupid questions)
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200603/msg00951:Re: First of possibly many stupid questions
21: answer questions about their loopers, but the RC-50 36: > sync. But as I'm to understand it, the new RC-50 has 44: > into considering the RC-50 for monetary
200603/msg00958:comparison chart of the different loopers (was: Refining the first of possibly many stupid questions)
26: until I can get the RC-50 as well into the chart and article, and
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200603/msg00964:Re: comparison chart of the different loopers (was: Refining the first of possibly many stupid questions)
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200603/msg01005:Comparison chart of looping devices published
31: I left out the Roland RC-50 so far, because they are not yet
20: too bad roland didn't hire him to do the demo for the rc-50 (which was worthless i.m.o.p.).
200603/msg01007:Re: Comparison chart of looping devices published
43: > I left out the Roland RC-50 so far, because they are not yet
200603/msg01015:Re: Comparison chart of looping devices published
45: > I left out the Roland RC-50 so far, because they are not yet
200603/msg01031:Re: Comparison chart of looping devices published
39: I left out the Roland RC-50 so far, because they are not yet available. I will borrow one for a while when they ship on may 23 and then fill out the chart on it.
200603/msg01038:Re: Comparison chart of looping devices published
42: > I left out the Roland RC-50 so far, because they are not yet
200603/msg01076:Re: Comparison chart of looping devices published
19: scary.Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Loopers,When working on a mag article about live looping (in Swedish) I did a quick comparison chart over some of the looping devices available today. This afternoon i had some spare time and converted the chart into a web format. If you should happen to detect some incorrect data or if you think that some additional information should be slipped into the chart, please don't hesitate to post suggestions. I intend to let this page stay online for the benefit of the community.http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.phpI left out the Roland RC-50 so far, because they are not yet available. I will borrow one for a while when they ship on may 23 and then fill out the chart on it.Greetings from SwedenPer
200604/msg00301:Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback
19: My RC-50 is supposed to in Today from Sweetwater and be here Mid next week 22: be getting the RC-50...I had one on order from Musiciansbuy.com and they 34: enough sector of users. I Think the RC-50 has great promise for some of us.
200604/msg00334:Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback
19: I tested the RC50 at "Musikmesse" Frankfurt for about half an hour - the 20: unit was a bit buggy but I think Boss/Roland won't ship RC50s with 23: RC50, Digitech Jamman Looper and Electrix Repeater in focus. 24: I think it's gonna be the the RC50 - it just felt "right" for me when I
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21: How much is Sweetwater charging for the RC-50?
36: > How much is Sweetwater charging for the RC-50?
200604/msg00384:RE: rc 50 no batteries or feedback
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200604/msg00516:Re: [SPAM] RE: rc 50 no batteries or feedback
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28: I've been looking at the EH 2880, EH 16-sec delay, boss rc-50, and the
44: > I've been looking at the EH 2880, EH 16-sec delay, boss rc-50, and the
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48: point. The RC-50 is on such device. Or, look at the original Repeater. How
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31: you're on While The MIDI Also arms your EDP or My RC-50 Looper and starts it
200605/msg00581:Re: Looping with Backing Tracks???
67: > RC-50 Looper and starts it recording....Or you tell
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19: Probably just competing with the to-be-released-any-time-now RC-50...
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 24: on the RC-50, is that this gives you the opportunity of fading the audio back
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 25: Here's the question, how does the RC-50 behave in
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200605/msg00765:Re:Re: Andy's comments on RC-50 Feedback Loopers-Delight-d Digest V06 #438
3: Re:Re: Andy's comments on RC-50 Feedback Loopers-Delight-d Digest V06 #438 10: Subject: Re:Re: Andy's comments on RC-50 Feedback Loopers-Delight-d Digest V06 #438 21: >Andy, could you elaborate on the feedback for the RC-50 that you
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 56: cool things about the RC-50 is it's portability. Grab
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 49: What I'm hoping is that the RC-50 also has this sort of flexibility... who
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200605/msg00803:Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions(sync&feedback)
3: Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions(sync&feedback) 10: Subject: Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions(sync&feedback) 37: That would be an interesting test for the RC-50, to overdub while synced.
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions 20: >What I'm hoping is that the RC-50 also has this sort of flexibility... who
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200606/msg00013:RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths)
3: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths) 10: Subject: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths) 26: I've ordered the Boss RC-50 loop station and am
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200606/msg00025:Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths)
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200606/msg00027:Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions-Time Compression Expansion
3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions-Time Compression Expansion 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions-Time Compression Expansion 35: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions
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200606/msg00031:Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths)
3: Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths) 28: or you could use an RC-20 and an RC-50 in series.
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200606/msg00032:Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths)
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200606/msg00043:Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions-Time Compression Expansion
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200606/msg00044:Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths)
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3: My RC-50 Just came to the door 10: Subject: My RC-50 Just came to the door
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200606/msg00056:where should i go next? (looper question)
200606/msg00064:Overdub with "Quantize to shortest loop" feature?
42: Others (like RC-50, Repeater) allow you to record
200606/msg00066:Re: Overdub with "Quantize to shortest loop" feature?
58: Others (like RC-50, Repeater) allow you to record
3: boss rc50 or EH 2880? 10: Subject: boss rc50 or EH 2880?
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3: Re: boss rc50 or EH 2880? 10: Subject: Re: boss rc50 or EH 2880? 28: The function on the RC50 that allows you to upload your preferred
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200606/msg00077:Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths)
3: Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50: Multiply feature? (overdubbing w/ different lengths) 36: C. Resample within RC-50:
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3: RC-50 guide restarting? 10: Subject: RC-50 guide restarting?
3: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 10: Subject: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 21: how would you compare the advantages of RC-50 versus Electrix Repeater?
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200606/msg00151:Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions-Time Compression Expansion
3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions-Time Compression Expansion 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions-Time Compression Expansion 34: mean I have to set the RC-50 as MIDI master for MIDI sync?
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3: RC-50 Availability 10: Subject: RC-50 Availability 33: font-family:Arial'>Does anyone know of a place that has the RC-50 in stock. I checked
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3: Re: RC-50 Availability 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Availability 33: > Does anyone know of a place that has the RC-50 in stock. I checked most
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3: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 19: Isnt it possible to run the three patches on the rc-50 in series?
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3: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 22: yes. the rc-50 has 2 modes. you can use "multi mode" to run your 3
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200606/msg00174:Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions-Time Compression Expansion
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200606/msg00234:Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action"
3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action" 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action" 18: received the boss rc50 yesterday and have been working with it quite a bit since. the overall features seem solid. i'm liking the sub out option of sending just a loop signal to a drummer/bass player.
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200606/msg00236:Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action"
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action" 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action" 26: really does issue a software update for the RC-50, more to fix the
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3: My impressions of the BOSS RC-50 10: Subject: My impressions of the BOSS RC-50 19: RC-50
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200606/msg00242:Re: My impressions of the BOSS RC-50
3: Re: My impressions of the BOSS RC-50 10: Subject: Re: My impressions of the BOSS RC-50 28: > RC-50.
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200606/msg00244:Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action"
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200606/msg00247:Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action"
3: Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action" 10: Subject: Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action" 25: Now I wonder: should I cancel my RC-50 order while I can?
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3: New RC-50 Delema 10: Subject: New RC-50 Delema 27: one, the RC-50 seems to revert back to the original tempo of the patch and
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3: Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 vs EH2880 10: Subject: Re: Re: BOSS RC-50 vs EH2880 22: Compared to RC-50, what I would be missing is I guess the fact that you
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200606/msg00259:EH2880 review request, was: My impressions of the BOSS RC-50
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3: Re:Re: New RC-50 Delema 10: Subject: Re:Re: New RC-50 Delema 24: Right now I'd guess we have the world's leading experts on RC-50 here on
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3: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 19: Judging by what people are saying about the RC-50, it
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200606/msg00265:Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action"
3: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action" 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 impressions/pedal "action" 18: so in continuing to investigate this timming issue, i contacted sweetwater which is where i got the rc-50. their tech support person also contacted roland and was told again that they are aware of this, that they've had tech meetings about it, and for now "that's the way it is," that there's no way around having to play through the phrase.
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200606/msg00268:Transition between phrases on RC-50
3: Transition between phrases on RC-50 10: Subject: Transition between phrases on RC-50 19: I have a question for RC-50 users:
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200606/msg00270:Re: Transition between phrases on RC-50
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3: RC-50 woes 10: Subject: RC-50 woes 18: Hello, I can't get my RC-50 to record the moment I press record. Is it true that I always need to be thinking in terms of the guide tempo? Recording always defaults to the beginning of the guide tempo cycle. Am I missing something? Is there a way to override this? Please help before I return this thing and go back to my DL4 and my EDP. Thanks! David __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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3: Re: RC-50 woes 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 woes 29: > I can't get my RC-50 to record the moment I press record. Is it true
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3: Re: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 10: Subject: Re: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 22: that the Repeater is really superior to the RC-50 in all aspects (except
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3: Re: RC-50 woes 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 woes 18: Thanks Alex. It was the Fade In setting that was the issue. Thanks for setting me in the right direction! All the best, David Alex Law <alexander.law@gmail.com> wrote: You need to change the phrase record setting (or whatever it's called,I forget, don't have the thing in front of me) from "LOOP END" to"IMMEDIATE". At least, I think those were the terms. You get the idea.:)AlexOn 6/9/06, David Nadal wrote:>> Hello,> I can't get my RC-50 to record the moment I press record. Is it true that I> always need to be thinking in terms of the guide tempo? Recording always> defaults to the beginning of the guide tempo cycle. Am I missing something?> Is there a way to override this?> Please help before I return this
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200606/msg00281:Re: RC-50 - Repeater comparisons...
3: Re: RC-50 - Repeater comparisons... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 - Repeater comparisons... 21: The RC-50 has it's own floor/pedal interface, and I've found their similar
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3: RE: Transition between phrases on RC-50 10: Subject: RE: Transition between phrases on RC-50 23: On the RC-50 can you go STRAIGHT into overdub mode as soon as you complete
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200606/msg00329:RE: latency in Repeater and EH-16?
19: the rc-50 has a nice selection of odd time signatures (I don't have it
3: rc50 plus 2880 10: Subject: rc50 plus 2880 19: So , the dream setup would be the 2880 hooked up to a rc50 ?
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3: Re: rc50 plus 2880 10: Subject: Re: rc50 plus 2880 20: percussionist you might be unhappy with the way that the RC-50
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200606/msg00346:Ableton & Odd meters (was: Is it Ableton Live - or is it me?)
56: I'll wait for my RC-50 and give it a chance. Still, Ableton is very
200606/msg00347:Re: Ableton & Odd meters (was: Is it Ableton Live - or is it me?)
72: > So, I'll wait for my RC-50 and give it a chance. Still, Ableton is
200606/msg00350:Re: Ableton & Odd meters (was: Is it Ableton Live - or is it me?)
69: >So, I'll wait for my RC-50 and give it a chance. Still, Ableton is
27: la rc50 boss es muy buena pero complicada de usar (todavia no
31: la rc50 boss es muy buena pero complicada
3: BOSS RC-50 Good to Go 10: Subject: BOSS RC-50 Good to Go 20: My RC-50 should be at my home when I get off work today. I took the
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 Good to Go 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 Good to Go 27: Despite all the RC-50-bashing around here, I think this could be a quite
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19: After a friend went out and bought a Boss RC-50 for his poratable
3: Re: BOSS RC-50 Good to Go 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 Good to Go 19: I think most of the "RC-50 bashing" has been our learning curve, and
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200606/msg00394:Re: Digitech GNX4 review wanted....
35: > After a friend went out and bought a Boss RC-50 for his poratable
3: Re: BOSS RC-50 Good to Go 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 Good to Go 22: i performed with the rc-50 in a live situation, live trio guitar, bass, drums. the hiccup was not as noticeable, but i didn't get to try looping as much as i'd hoped, so i can't fairly evaluate that. the sub out feature worked really well, sending the loop only to our drummer. also the stereo inputs and outputs came in handy, as i'm working with a taylor t-5 with the option of an acoustic sound and an electric sound. the stereo situation let me loop with acoustic, play over it with electric, vice versa and any combination thereof.
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200606/msg00397:Boss RC-20 Loop Station - Voice Through?
200606/msg00409:Re: Some info about the Repeater mk2 (not much, though :)
29: Yeah, I agree. Each person who buys an RC-50, 2880 or
200606/msg00413:Re: Some info about the Repeater mk2 (not much, though :)
32: >Yeah, I agree. Each person who buys an RC-50, 2880 or
3: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 10: Subject: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 21: I can't believe the RC-50 talk died off so quick. I'm assuming the users
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3: Re: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 18: continuing my thoughts on the rc50, i have continued to find it a nice unit. i've used it in ways i had not anticipated, ie., single mode loops from section A to section B, which i had not done before. mostly using that for compositional stuff, hearing how sections would sound back to back. i also confess that i have used the rhythm tracks to do some writing. initially i thought there was no way i'd mess with those, but i burried my attitude and had some fun with it.
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3: RE: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 30: the problem and said he should make the rc-50 master only.
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3: RE: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 30: > rc-50 master only.
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3: Re: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 35: > > rc-50 master only.
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3: Re: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Users Must Be Busy 19: Greetings to all loopers. I tried the RC-50 at a store for like an
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31: headphones_ , I will try to have my money back and wait for the RC50.
37: >headphones_ , I will try to have my money back and wait for the RC50.
41: I'd say get the used JamMan. The RC-50 seems to be 54: that (about $500 same as an RC-50) IMO it's still tied 79: Judging by the video it seems the RC-50 does a good
29: currently available floor stuff, I really like the boomerang, and the new RC50, 40: though I'm not sure what version the software is yet. Regarding the RC-50's, The
200606/msg01100:Re: software based phrase sampler
30: together for their RC-50. Great!
200606/msg01102:Re: software based phrase sampler
88: >together for their RC-50. Great!
3: RC-50 & Loop Decay 10: Subject: RC-50 & Loop Decay 21: Here is an idea how Loop Decay with RC-50 _could_ possibly work.
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53: measure long, another that is 3 or 4, etc.) I believe the RC-50 might be
200607/msg00225:Uploaded RC-50 sample to File Library
3: Uploaded RC-50 sample to File Library 10: Subject: Uploaded RC-50 sample to File Library 35: you can listen to how the RC-50 handles that (very nicely). The audio
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3: RC-50: FIRST IMPRESSIONS 10: Subject: RC-50: FIRST IMPRESSIONS 21: I've received my RC-50 and have been playing with it. Here are my...
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3: Re: RC-50: FIRST IMPRESSIONS 10: Subject: Re: RC-50: FIRST IMPRESSIONS 21: > I would definitely recommend the RC-50 due to all the features you
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3: Re: RC-50: FIRST IMPRESSIONS 10: Subject: Re: RC-50: FIRST IMPRESSIONS 19: Exellent review!! I'm having fun with my RC-50 and hope to have it on a gig
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21: just wanted to check .... with loop quantization on the RC50 (or any other 51: >RC-50: If you press PLAY/REC/OD pedal somewhere around 13,2seconds (i.e. 58: >This works really nice on RC-50 :-)
19: > just wanted to check .... with loop quantization on the RC50 (or any
52: > just wanted to check .... with loop quantization on the RC50 (or any 79: >> RC-50: If you press PLAY/REC/OD pedal somewhere around 13,2seconds (i.e. 88: >> This works really nice on RC-50 :-)
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200607/msg00399:Re: New Boomerang and Blooperang Update...
21: cool. That will make only two that can do this, right? I thought the RC50
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34: > cool. That will make only two that can do this, right? I thought the RC50
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27: delay reissue, their 2880, the Boss RC-20 and RC-50, Digitech JamMan,
200607/msg00421:Re: New Boomerang and Blooperang Update...
19: The RC-50, Electro Harmonix 2880, digitech GNX-4 and Looperlative 26: >thought the RC50 was stereo i/o as well.
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32: > The RC-50, Electro Harmonix 2880, digitech GNX-4 and Looperlative LP-1 40: >>RC50 was stereo i/o as well.
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28: > The RC-50, Electro Harmonix 2880, digitech GNX-4 and Looperlative 35: > >thought the RC50 was stereo i/o as well.
200607/msg00435:Re: New Boomerang and Blooperang Update...
25: RC-50 because, like, y'know I'm such a gearwhore that I've gotta have
50: > and RC-50, Digitech
200607/msg00459:RC-50 LOOP DECAY: IT WORKS!!! (DELAY FEEDBACK)
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22: I don't think this one has neither feedback (the RC-50 CAN work with
27: If you can set REPLACE as OVERDUB MODE, just like on the RC-50, then you
200607/msg00495:Re: RC-50 LOOP DECAY: IT WORKS!!! (DELAY FEEDBACK)
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200607/msg00504:Live Lite 5 (RC-50 FEEDBACK is possible)
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3: RE: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS 33: So, to close, the RC-50 can do much, but it still seems it's too vertically
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3: Re: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS 63: the mark -- as I feel they did with the RC-50 -- which is what makes
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3: Re: Feedback (was RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS) 10: Subject: Re: Feedback (was RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS) 34: incredibly well-written, and though I don't have an RC-50 I read the
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3: Re: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS 26: seriously, i am something of that breed, worked with boomerang, rc20, edp and now the rc50.....just as i was getting ready to receive my rc50, i started experimenting with the mystical feedback feature on the edp, and now i get it.........and i'd not even scratched the surface. so, yeah, i totally understand why that's so important to the more sophisticated users of this technology. and, of course, now i miss it on the rc50.
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200607/msg00547:Coffeehouse Guitar (was: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS)
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200607/msg00548:Re: Coffeehouse Guitar (was: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS)
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200607/msg00555:RC-50 Software Update planned for August/September
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200607/msg00557:Re: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS (WITHOUT A MIXER ;-)
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200607/msg00558:Re: RC-50 Software Update planned for August/September
3: Re: RC-50 Software Update planned for August/September 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software Update planned for August/September 26: improvement to me. (Hope to use the RC-50 patches sort of like "Scenes"
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3: RC-50 glitch 10: Subject: RC-50 glitch 22: RC-50. I've read some reviews but one thing has me worried. Apparently
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3: Re: RC-50 glitch 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch 22: A lot of people who use the RC-50 for the first time get the time settings
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3: RC-50 and Feedback 10: Subject: RC-50 and Feedback 30: If so, then a simple strategy for using the RC-50 in this way is to use
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200607/msg00575:Foot or face? Where do you like it?
200607/msg00582:RE: Foot or face? Where do you like it?
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3: Re: RC-50 and Feedback 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 and Feedback 30: This is what you can do with my setup also on the RC-50.
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200607/msg00710:Re: Tony and Rainer make weird noises.
3: RC-50 video on summer NAMM 10: Subject: RC-50 video on summer NAMM 20: he sure must be an authority) that the RC-50 is "the most powerful looper
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200607/msg00724:Re: Sample sound clip from my notebook computer system
35: shortcomings on the RC-50. Why? Well because we feel
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59: > shortcomings on the RC-50. Why? Well because we feel
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200607/msg00728:Training video for TC-Helicon VoiceLive--no looping content (was RC-50 video on summer NAMM)
3: Training video for TC-Helicon VoiceLive--no looping content (was RC-50 video on summer NAMM) 10: Subject: Training video for TC-Helicon VoiceLive--no looping content (was RC-50 video on summer NAMM) 30: presentation. I still ain't buying an RC-50 tho.
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200607/msg00739:The MOST POWERFUL LOOPER IN THE WORLD! (And Stereo too!)
21: It's the RC-50! Hehehe
200607/msg00740:Re: Sample sound clip from my notebook computer system
34: become a RC-50. In terms of a "net" it may serve me
200607/msg00741:Re: Training video for TC-Helicon VoiceLive--no looping content (wasRC-50 video on summer NAMM)
3: Re: Training video for TC-Helicon VoiceLive--no looping content (wasRC-50 video on summer NAMM) 10: Subject: Re: Training video for TC-Helicon VoiceLive--no looping content (wasRC-50 video on summer NAMM) 32: > presentation. I still ain't buying an RC-50 tho.
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3: Re: RC-50 video on summer NAMM 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 video on summer NAMM 21: > waiting for the RC50 to be available in Germany...
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200607/msg00769:Re: RC-50 video on summer NAMM (ricoloop)
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200607/msg00770:does the boss rc50 have insert modes similar to the edp?
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200607/msg00794:Rico Loop (was: Re: RC-50 video on summer NAMM)
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22: BTW, I got an RC 50 as a first step. I already see the Looperlative's value! But the RC50 is helping me think about what I want to ACTUALLY DO with looping...
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3: Re: Sheer Volume & RC50 10: Subject: Re: Sheer Volume & RC50 29: Re the rc50 video, I tend to believe the looping is more of a state
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25: looping like the caffeine amped RC-50 guy perhaps as
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200607/msg00886:My thoughts on the ELECTRO HARMONIX 2880
200607/msg00908:Re: should we name it echoing ? (was RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS)
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3: Boss RC-50 Latency Issues 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 Latency Issues 18: I tried out the Boss RC-50 at the store yesterday at length.I've been a Akai Headrush user for some years, have gotten to the point where I can't play my live gigs without it.But I figure it was time for some "variation" and the RC50 looked good.
200607/msg00931:RE: Re: RiffBox & FX-Tracker (WAS how do you correct a bad loop onstage)
19: FWIW, you can do this easily with the RC-50. Each phrase can be set to
200607/msg00932:Re: Re: RiffBox & FX-Tracker (WAS how do you correct a bad loop on stage)
18: Jesse,I tried out the RC50 at the store the other day, and I noticed a delayon the playback of the first loop I record.Can you tell me if this happens on all the units??That delay would kill me live. 20: FWIW, you can do this easily with the RC-50. Each phrase can be set to fadein and/or out, with an adjustable fade time (per patch). The longest fadesetting is around 20 seconds, so it's plenty long for blending ambient
200607/msg00933:RE: Re: RiffBox & FX-Tracker (WAS how do you correct a bad loop onstage)
75: I tried out the RC50 at the store the other day, and I noticed a delay 91: easily with the RC-50. Each phrase can be set to fade
55: I tried out the RC50 at the store the other day, and I noticed a delay 64: FWIW, you can do this easily with the RC-50. Each phrase can be set to fade
200607/msg00944:Re: return of the guitar synth RE: RC 50 latency & andy butler
108: I tried out the RC50 at the store the other day, and I noticed a delay 117: FWIW, you can do this easily with the RC-50. Each phrase can be set
24: >Re the rc50 video, I tend to believe the looping is more of a state
18: Roland RC50, Lex Vortex, DeltaLab Effectrons.
3: RC-50 : maximum loop time? 10: Subject: RC-50 : maximum loop time? 18: has anyone discovered a maximum loop time for the RC-50? i'm thinking very long scale ambient pieces and would need several minutes.. i'm hoping 49 mins (mono) divided by 3 is roughly 16 mins per loop (mono) or 8 mins per loop (stereo)
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3: RE: RC-50 : maximum loop time? 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 : maximum loop time? 55: Subject: RC-50 : maximum loop
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3: Re: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 FEEDBACK WORKS 19: Let me add my two cents and say that the RC-50 is just not ready for
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3: Re: RC-50 glitch and LR levels 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch and LR levels 31: Let me add my two cents and say that the RC-50 is just not ready for prime-time.
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3: Re: RC-50 glitch and LR levels 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch and LR levels 37: > > Let me add my two cents and say that the RC-50 is just not ready for
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3: RE: RC-50 glitch and LR levels 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 glitch and LR levels 30: solved, and phrase feedback is added, the RC-50 would be perfect IMO.
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200608/msg00116:RC-50 glitch/software update rumor
3: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor 10: Subject: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor 18: i was just speaking to ryan at boss customer support. according to him, there is no definite rc50 software update in the works. they have requested one from japan due to what he said were 2 issues specifically- the "glitch" issue and what he said was a "drifting" issue when using midi sync. perhaps the lack of ability to function as the "slave" in the chain? i've not gotten into that aspect of the unit.
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200608/msg00118:Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor
3: Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor 26: > there is no definite rc50 software update in the works. they have
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3: RC-50 glitch 10: Subject: RC-50 glitch 21: Does this RC-50 glitch take this pedal out of the running?
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200608/msg00121:Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor
3: Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor 31: > there is no definite rc50 software update in the works. they have requested
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3: Re: RC-50 glitch 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch 24: Does this RC-50 glitch take this pedal out of the running?
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3: RC-50 latency problems. 10: Subject: RC-50 latency problems. 22: RC-50 are not the glitch problem that others seem to call latency. What I'm
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3: Re: RC-50 latency problems. 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 latency problems. 22: What I'm experiencing is a slight "behind" effect of the recorded phrases in relation to a sequencer or drum machine that is slaving to the rc-50
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25: Obviously I need a looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 , but that
25: >From what I can hear about the RC-50 is that if you're 75: > looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 ,
40: > From what I can hear about the RC-50 is that if you're 90: > > looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 ,
57: > > From what I can hear about the RC-50 is that if 129: > RC-50 ,
81: > From what I can hear about the RC-50 is that if you're 131: > > looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 ,
57: them. Obviously I need a looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 ,
200608/msg00136:Re: Products, Services, and Looping Gear "Packages"
20: description that says something like "Better than the Boss RC-50!," and 30: looking at the RC-50, but wasn't convinced. I figured I already owned a
36: RC-50 before reading web reviews about it, so it´s not all about saving a few 107: RC-50 , but that was before I read reviews on harmony-central,
49: >From what I can hear about the RC-50 is that if you're 101: looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 ,
52: have in mind I would go for the RC-50 before reading web reviews about 138: about to go and get a RC-50 , but that was before I read reviews on
38: know, the RC-50 is the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not a choice now. 62: for the RC-50 before reading web reviews about it, so it´s not all about 143: to go and get a RC-50 , but that was before I read reviews on
67: as far as I know, the RC-50 is the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 96: have in mind I would go for the RC-50 before reading web reviews about 182: was just about to go and get a RC-50 , but that was before I read
200608/msg00153:RE: Products, Services, and Looping Gear "Packages"
30: apparent exception of the RC-50 :-).
19: "Also, it´d be cool to go stereo, but as far as I know, the RC-50 is the 20: only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not a choice now. " 68: > > Also, it´d be cool to go stereo, but as far as I know, the RC-50 is 69: > > the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not a choice now. All
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92: > know, the RC-50 is 93: > > > the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not 130: > > >> for the RC-50 before reading web reviews 216: > > >> about to go and get a RC-50 , but
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200608/msg00158:Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor
3: Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch/software update rumor 42: > > there is no definite rc50 software update in the works. they have
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111: >> know, the RC-50 is 112: >> > > the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not 149: >> > >> for the RC-50 before reading web reviews 235: >> > >> about to go and get a RC-50 , but
102: > > know, the RC-50 is 103: > > > > the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not 140: > > > >> for the RC-50 before reading web reviews 226: > > > >> about to go and get a RC-50 , but
3: Re: RC-50 glitch 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch 19: What do you mean by pre-recorded material? Loading the RC-50 via USB port
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3: Re: RC-50 glitch 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch 19: paulrichard10@adelphia.net>:What do you mean by pre-recorded material? Loading the RC-50 via USB port with loops? I do live loops and I haven't noticed a problem.
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200608/msg00201:Re: Looping Laptops in general (WAS Products, Services, and Looping Gear "Packages")
19: I hear you. It was my intention to get an RC-50 for
3: BOSS RC-50 patch editor? 10: Subject: BOSS RC-50 patch editor?
3: Re: RC-50 glitch 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 glitch 22: > What do you mean by pre-recorded material? Loading the RC-50 via USB
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200608/msg00292:Re: lexicon with 32 second upgrade for sale
27: stereo looper (2880 or RC-50) for a bit more. True,
200608/msg00294:Re: lexicon with 32 second upgrade for sale
35: > stereo looper (2880 or RC-50) for a bit more. True,
200608/msg00299:Re: Re: lexicon with 32 second upgrade for sale
51: > > stereo looper (2880 or RC-50) for a bit more. True,
200608/msg00301:Re: lexicon with 32 second upgrade for sale
64: > stereo looper (2880 or RC-50) for a bit more. True,
200608/msg00302:Re: Re: lexicon with 32 second upgrade for sale
78: > >> > stereo looper (2880 or RC-50) for a bit more. True,
200608/msg00424:Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50
3: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 23: Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 patch editor? 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 patch editor?
200608/msg00429:Re: Looping device comparison chart
55: Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for
200608/msg00430:Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50
3: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 27: > Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for
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200608/msg00437:Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50
3: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 38: >> Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for testing!
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3: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 31: > Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50
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200608/msg00468:Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50
3: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 28: below: "RC-50 glitches on first playback of a loop"
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25: I know that there are loopers with MIDI out there(RC50, EHX 2880), and
200608/msg00537:Re: Live Looping with a Drum Machine
69: > there(RC50, EHX 2880), and
3: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Repeater? 19: I see four main advantages of the Electrix Repeater over the RC-50.
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3: Re: Boss RC-50 Latency Issues 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 Latency Issues 21: > But I figure it was time for some "variation" and the RC50 looked good.
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3: RE: RC-50 glitch and LR levels 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 glitch and LR levels 25: have wrong timing settings on your RC-50 - _not_ a "latency" issue.
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3: Re: RC-50 software update rumor 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 software update rumor 20: > somewhere back in the discussion of rc-50 issues, it came up that an
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3: RC-50 vs electrix repeater 10: Subject: RC-50 vs electrix repeater 22: Any comparison done between RC-50 vs electrix
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3: RC-50 For sale 10: Subject: RC-50 For sale
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3: Re: RC-50 vs electrix repeater 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs electrix repeater 27: choice. The good thing about the RC-50 is that you have everything in a
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3: RC-50 First Time Experience 10: Subject: RC-50 First Time Experience 23: Today I played with an RC-50 in the local music store. First, I played
3: Re: RC-50 First Time Experience 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 First Time Experience 58: This all reminds me: I should get back to my RC-50 tutorial... (other
3: Re: RC-50 vs electrix repeater 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs electrix repeater 18: Hey thank you for the chart and information regarding the RC-50, It was most helpful. I currently own the boomerang (original version) I love it! I wish the playback sound quality would be better though. I just test drove the RC-50 and it was absolutely amazing plus it has a drum machine tap tempo and quite a few other bells and whistles. I think I could find a way to use the freaky sounds when you do slower tempo changes to your loop. Lucky I am open-minded to these types of things. I would think they will come up with another version before too long to correct such things though. I really think the best is yet to come. Hey check out our songwriting seminar coming up real quick like when you get an opportunity. I will be playing Flamenco and Celtic type of instrumentals most of which are my own composition. I mainly compose on the fly by the skin of my teeth. Playing live brings out the best in
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22: out there which have Mic inputs, too.... Boss RC-50, DIgitech GNX-3
21: Boss RC-50 Loop Station: Has separate MIC/GUITAR/LINE inputs with separate
31: > out there which have Mic inputs, too.... Boss RC-50,
3: RC-50: NO rec->overdub glitch 10: Subject: RC-50: NO rec->overdub glitch
23: i owned a boss rc-50 for a minute, but got scared and returned it
200610/msg00067:Re: Best Looper (was: random effects)
200610/msg00068:Shopping for a looper again... RC-50?...
3: Shopping for a looper again... RC-50?... 10: Subject: Shopping for a looper again... RC-50?... 36: there was a way to narrow my search since when I type in Boss RC-50 I get
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3: Re: RC50 Latency issues 10: Subject: Re: RC50 Latency issues 27: Now, for me the RC-50 is my first "real" loooper. Buf if you are
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3: Re: RC50 Latency issues 10: Subject: Re: RC50 Latency issues 24: thanks Buzap, you're the RC-50 wizzard.
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3: Re: RC50 Latency issues 10: Subject: Re: RC50 Latency issues 21: the past. Maybe the RC-50 needs 'broken in'. ;)
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3: Re: RC50 End of Loop 10: Subject: Re: RC50 End of Loop 20: loop, i.e. visually on the RC-50. Am I correct in that understanding? If
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3: Re: RC50 Latency issues 10: Subject: Re: RC50 Latency issues 47: > Now, for me the RC-50 is my first "real" loooper. Buf if you are
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3: Re: RC50 End of Loop 10: Subject: Re: RC50 End of Loop 30: >the RC-50. Am I correct in that understanding?
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200610/msg00299:Re: Suggestion about looping gear
29: Electro-harmonix 2880 and the new Boss RC-50
200611/msg00118:Re: Boss RC-2 Shipping Now...Just Recieved Mine
37: Currently I'm a happy RC50 user at the moment and
200611/msg00390:Re: Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50
3: Re: Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50 10: Subject: Re: Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50 20: I've finally gotten pretty deep into the RC50 and am already deeply lusting for a Looperlative. The inability to switch between multi mode (loops playing simultaneously - like layering) and single (loops playing linear - one after the other) within one set of loops is kind of frustrating. I'd like one loop to be the guide track that plays under all the other loops... but not have all the other loops layer on top of each other. (I wonder if you can do that with the Looperlative?)
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200611/msg00391:Re: Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50
3: Re: Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50 10: Subject: Re: Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50 33: Victors was a long looped piece on the RC50. He managed to play all the
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200611/msg00393:Victor Wooten was: Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50
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200612/msg00010:Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50 - the self-marketing ploy
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19: if you can really spend $450, you might look into the Boss RC-50
3: RC-50 -feedback- :-))) 10: Subject: RC-50 -feedback- :-))) 30: My name's ----. I just bought an RC-50 a few days ago and have been
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23: RC-50. I brought it home, played around, researched on the net, found 28: one thing that RC-50 simply can't do: loops under 1.5 seconds. So I 33: At any rate, the RC-50 turned me onto something I never thought I'd 42: Ableton Live but the current version is as much as the RC-50 so I don't
200612/msg00055:Re: Question about looping software
19: Newbie here... short question is this: I'd like advice about Apple baseds/w that can do live looping.About a month ago I walked into Guitar Center and walked out with anRC-50. I brought it home, played around, researched on the net, found 21: playing around and being creative. Only thing I didn't solve for is theone thing that RC-50 simply can't do: loops under 1.5 seconds. So Itook it back and traded for a Vox ToneLab SE modeller. 12AX7/ECC83 dual 22: triode, and up to 4 seconds looping; more along what I was looking forwhen I walked into GC.At any rate, the RC-50 turned me onto something I never thought I'denjoy so much... looping phrases (as in long patterns, entire sections 24: modeller, but I want to also start playing around with this.So this is what I'm thinking. I've got an older i-Mac with OSX 10.2.8,1Gb ram, 130Gb disk and an Oxygen-8 USB midi keyboard. I looked atAbleton Live but the current version is as much as the RC-50 so I don't
200612/msg00057:Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50
3: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 37: >> Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for testing!
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200612/msg00058:Re: Question about looping software
24: > At any rate, the RC-50 turned me onto something I never thought I'd
200612/msg00059:Re: Question about looping software
30: the RC-50 does (one pedal for each loop). Heck, if that's the case then 45: >> At any rate, the RC-50 turned me onto something I never thought I'd
200612/msg00067:Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50
3: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 49: > >> Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for
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200612/msg00069:Re: Question about looping software
21: Yes the current version of Ableton may be as much as the RC-50 but if you 26: anything the RC-50 can do
200612/msg00070:Re: Question about looping software
36: > Yes the current version of Ableton may be as much as the RC-50 but if you 41: > anything the RC-50 can do
200612/msg00072:Re: Question about looping software
25: > Ableton Live but the current version is as much as the RC-50 so I don't
200612/msg00073:Re: Question about looping software
42: > > Yes the current version of Ableton may be as much as the RC-50 but if 50: > > anything the RC-50 can do
200612/msg00075:Re: Question about looping software
19: Thanks all, this is good info. On the idea of doing what the RC-50 can 51: >>> Yes the current version of Ableton may be as much as the RC-50 but if 61: >>> anything the RC-50 can do
200612/msg00077:Re: Question about looping software
21: > Thanks all, this is good info. On the idea of doing what the RC-50
200612/msg00078:Re: Question about looping software
28: With the RC50 I could switch between loops or do simultaneous loops. 34: to switch between phrases. That is the strength of the RC50. 40: Actually, I would think that that would be what you would use the RC50 44: playing with the RC50 I was able to dynamically manage the flow of music
200612/msg00079:Re: Question about looping software
21: > With the RC50 I could switch between loops or do simultaneous 28: > strength of the RC50. 36: > RC50 best for. I don't think it was ever really designed to 39: > management'. When I was playing with the RC50 I was able to
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200612/msg00080:Re: Question about looping software
23: > leaves the RC50 as the winner. Just try it out before buying, so you
200612/msg00092:Re: Question about looping software
21: with firmware. And I actually did buy an RC50 without researching first 23: s/w route is that there were aspects I really like about the RC-50 but 40: > leaves the RC50 as the winner. Just try it out before buying, so you
20: Of course, it's easier with a new looper! The guys on this list know much more about looping hardware than I do. I have an RC50. Don't know if it can do what you wanna do. I think there are cheaper ones that would do fine or better.
31: For example, my guitar teacher has an RC-50 which he just has hooked up to
200612/msg00111:Re: Sound quality of various loopers
64: For example, my guitar teacher has an RC-50 which he just has hooked up
200612/msg00112:Re: Sound quality of various loopers
40: other day when my instructor used his RC-50. Slight difference but 114: devices. For example, my guitar teacher has an RC-50 which he just has
200612/msg00113:Re: Sound quality of various loopers
45: RC-50 which he just has hooked up to a little practice amp, I
200612/msg00117:Re: Sound quality of various loopers
63: the other day when my instructor used his RC-50. Slight difference but 137: devices. For example, my guitar teacher has an RC-50 which he just
200612/msg00134:Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50
3: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 22: On the RC-50 for MULTIPLY, it is pretty much the same as with FEEDBACK:
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3: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 30: > On the RC-50 for MULTIPLY, it is pretty much the same as with
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200612/msg00154:loopers little nuisances Re: Question about looping software
32: > > one thing that RC-50 simply can't do: loops under
200612/msg00164:Re: loopers little nuisances Re: Question about looping software
20: feedback so I think when the Repeater and RC-50 were 24: Sounds weird to trade an RC-50 for a Tonelab. As much 26: animal than an RC-50 that it seems like you'd want 49: > > > one thing that RC-50 simply can't do: loops
25: my other projects. I've got a Boomerang, RC-20XL, and just got an RC-50,
200612/msg00332:Re: electro harmonix 2880 w/footpedal **thoughts**
53: The Boss RC50 has far too many menues and pedestrian features.
200612/msg00335:RE: electro harmonix 2880 w/footpedal **thoughts**
76: The Boss RC50 has far too many menues and pedestrian features. How do you
3: Boss RC-50 update is available 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 update is available 19: http://www.rolandus.com/uploads/CMS/Downloads/1933/RC50_v101.zip
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200612/msg00404:Re: Boss RC-50 update is available
3: Re: Boss RC-50 update is available 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 update is available 19: I have a friend who owns one of these RC-50, he want's to know how to
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200612/msg00408:Re: Boss RC-50 update is available
3: Re: Boss RC-50 update is available 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 update is available 32: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 update is available
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200612/msg00417:RE: Boss RC-50 update is available
3: RE: Boss RC-50 update is available 10: Subject: RE: Boss RC-50 update is available 26: So here's what I found. The update adds a new mode to the RC-50, which you
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52: CR-50? I think you mean the RC-50. I don't own one
3: boss rc50 vs mh2880 10: Subject: boss rc50 vs mh2880 18: I'm still contemplating..which way to go on this one.Pricewise, the RC50 is cheaper, and already comes in a footboard type setup.But I noticed the little hiccup after making the first loop when I tried it out at the store.
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3: Re: boss rc50 vs mh2880 10: Subject: Re: boss rc50 vs mh2880 18: This patch definitely works.I just bought the RC50 and applied the patch.I'm still going to test out the 2880, but this RC50 with the glitch fixed, is quite the tool!!!
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3: Re: boss rc50 vs mh2880 10: Subject: Re: boss rc50 vs mh2880 18: i've been one of the more vocal complainers about the rc50 glitch, and i concur with what dan says. it does work. the record pedal itself, i would say, is still not as sensitive as say the behringer midi pedal for the edp. somewhat similar to the rc20 you have to remember that the attack is not when your foot hits the pedal but when it actually is fully depressed. i think the behringer pedal is such that you don't have to think about that, but nevertheless, it is so far a very welcome update. the only problem now is that i have taught myself to play "through" one of the first beat of the playback, and now i have to keep reminding myself not to do that.ironically, i feel that the rc2 pedal "action" may be the best of the bunch. i picked one up as a backup and for smaller, more intimate gigs, and so far i have to say it's pretty impressive in that regard. very natural feeling. previous posts have pointed out correctly that to erase a current phrase you have to hold it down and hear the first few seconds of what you were just looping play before it erases (why,....why? why did that seem "ok" to roland), so i am using an extra pedal to stop and erase. then the question is, if by the time you're into the rc2 and the additional stop/erase pedal, you're pretty damn close the rc20, so why go with the rc2? again, i have to say i think the rc2 is smoother in its feel.john
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200612/msg00567:Boss pedal reponse (was RE: boss rc50 vs mh2880)
3: Boss pedal reponse (was RE: boss rc50 vs mh2880) 10: Subject: Boss pedal reponse (was RE: boss rc50 vs mh2880)
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200612/msg00570:Re: Boss pedal reponse (was RE: boss rc50 vs mh2880)
3: Re: Boss pedal reponse (was RE: boss rc50 vs mh2880) 10: Subject: Re: Boss pedal reponse (was RE: boss rc50 vs mh2880) 18: As for pedal action on the RC50, I'm still trying to get used to it..I'm so used to the switch on the Akai Headrush, that the RC50 seems a bit hard to press.Hopefully I'll get used to this in a few days...
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200701/msg00076:Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function
18: Thanks Charles.I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right nowand I'm really liking the RC50!2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky <
200701/msg00081:Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function
29: I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right 31: and I'm really liking the RC50!
200701/msg00084:Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function
20: RC50 for me. It just seemed to be too much of a "jam tool" with all 35: > I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right 37: > and I'm really liking the RC50!
200701/msg00085:Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function
19: I manged to get someting happening on the RC-50 that I liked, but 34: >RC50 for me. It just seemed to be too much of a "jam tool" with all 49: >> I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right 51: >> and I'm really liking the RC50!
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200701/msg00086:Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function
26: > RC50 for me. It just seemed to be too much of a "jam tool" with all 42: > > I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right 44: > > and I'm really liking the RC50!
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3: Boss RC50 10: Subject: Boss RC50 22: love with what the RC50 offers in helping me realize my looping fantasies.
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3: Re: Boss RC50 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 31: > love with what the RC50 offers in helping me realize my looping
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200701/msg00090:Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function
31: >> RC50 for me. It just seemed to be too much of a "jam tool" with all 48: >> > I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side 50: >> > and I'm really liking the RC50!
200701/msg00420:Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function
19: in the RC-50 you can just save the guide volume where you want it... 28: I have both an RC-50 and the 16 second delay. they are both great but 30: the RC-50 kicks everyone's butt in the straight up parts looping in
3: Re: Boss RC50 (MIXED MODE) 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 (MIXED MODE) 21: Good to hear someone also happy with the RC50. :-)
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200701/msg00507:Re: Boss RC-50 update is available
3: Re: Boss RC-50 update is available 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 update is available 19: > I have a friend who owns one of these RC-50, he want's to know how to
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200701/msg00508:RE: Boss RC-50 update is available
3: RE: Boss RC-50 update is available 10: Subject: RE: Boss RC-50 update is available 29: RC50, actually??).
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3: Re: Boss RC50 (MIXED MODE) 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 (MIXED MODE) 36: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 (MIXED MODE)
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200701/msg00609:Re: Damage Control Delay/Looper Pedal
28: I already use the RC-50 and Electro Harmonix 16 second delay for
200701/msg00656:Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880?
3: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 10: Subject: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 19: I'm considering either the RC50 or the EH 2880 due to the fact I can
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200701/msg00658:Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880?
3: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 10: Subject: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 30: >I'm considering either the RC50 or the EH 2880 due to the fact I can
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200701/msg00659:Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880?
3: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 10: Subject: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 18: For multiple loop lengths, I would go with the RC50, which I have.I tried out the 2880 as well, and with that unit, the length of the first track defines the lengthof the other 3 tracks.You can download the manuals for both units off the web for further details.
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200701/msg00662:Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880?
3: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 10: Subject: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 21: > I'm considering either the RC50...
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200701/msg00666:Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880?
3: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 10: Subject: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? 21: > On the RC50 (from everything I can determine) the first loop sets the
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3: RC-50 issues 10: Subject: RC-50 issues 21: In setting up the RC-50, I encountered a couple of issues and a quick
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3: Re: RC-50 issues 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 issues 22: >In setting up the RC-50, I encountered a couple of issues and a
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3: RE: RC-50 issues 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 issues 27: http://www.rolandus.com/uploads/CMS/Downloads/1933/RC50_v101.zip
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3: RE: RC-50 issues FIXED! 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 issues FIXED! 29: > http://www.rolandus.com/uploads/CMS/Downloads/1933/RC50_v101.zip
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200701/msg00748:A little more info on RC-50 loop lengths
3: A little more info on RC-50 loop lengths 10: Subject: A little more info on RC-50 loop lengths 22: posted regarding the RC-50 and the issue of different length loops.
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200701/msg00750:Re: A little more info on RC-50 loop lengths
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3: edp for rc-50 10: Subject: edp for rc-50 18: Title: edp for rc-50
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200702/msg00027:RC50 delicate footwork (was MIXED MODE)
3: RC50 delicate footwork (was MIXED MODE) 10: Subject: RC50 delicate footwork (was MIXED MODE) 47: It really brings the RC-50 to another level!!
3: RC50 question... 10: Subject: RC50 question... 18: I've been using the RC50 and I really want to put this unit on my deskrather than leave it on the floor.I find myself pressing alot of the buttons with my hand, rather than my foot.I think the only button I press with my foot is the "record/overdub" button.
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3: Re: RC50 question... 10: Subject: Re: RC50 question... 18: They don't give you a way to do that.I hope the can add stuff like that in a future software update.I really want them to add a way to pan the guide on the outputs.TEddyOn Feb 2, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Dan Katayama wrote:I've been using the RC50 and I really want to put this unit on my deskrather than leave it on the floor.I find myself pressing alot of the buttons with my hand, rather than my foot.I think the only button I press with my foot is the "record/overdub" button. So, I bought a footswitch, but it looks like you cannot program the footswitch to act as the "record/overdub" button.Does anybody know of a work-around for this?Thanks,Dan -- kosukewebhttp://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76
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200702/msg00128:Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!)
3: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 10: Subject: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 18: I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50If anybody is interested in the sound qualityor the actual song..lolProject name: Folks and PeasSong name: hanabeeType: 192kbps mp3
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200702/msg00129:Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!)
3: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 10: Subject: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 21: > I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50
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3: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 10: Subject: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 41: I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50
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200702/msg00131:Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!)
3: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 10: Subject: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 20: On 7 feb 2007, at 17.11, Dan Katayama wrote:> I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50> If anybody is interested in the sound quality> or the actual song..lol>> Project name: Folks and Peas
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200702/msg00132:Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!)
3: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 10: Subject: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 24: On 7-Feb-07, at 8:11 AM, Dan Katayama wrote:> I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50> If anybody is interested in the sound quality> or the actual song..lol>> Project name: Folks and Peas
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200702/msg00133:Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!)
3: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 10: Subject: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 18: El 07/02/2007, a las 11:11 AM, Dan Katayama escribió:I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50If anybody is interested in the sound qualityor the actual song..lolProject name: Folks and PeasSong name: hanabeeType: 192kbps mp3 http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76/hanabee.mp3Thanks!-- kosukewebhttp://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76Nice piece Dan!!!César
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64: until something like the boss RC50 in an enhanced version will hit the
200702/msg00141:Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!)
3: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 10: Subject: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 18: that's really cool, thanks for sharingTeddyOn Feb 7, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Dan Katayama wrote:I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50If anybody is interested in the sound qualityor the actual song..lolProject name: Folks and PeasSong name: hanabeeType: 192kbps mp3 http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76/hanabee.mp3Thanks!-- kosukewebhttp://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76
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200702/msg00145:Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!)
3: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 10: Subject: Re: Ambient/Experimental/Instrumental Loop (using my new Boss RC50!!) 26: > I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50
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22: RC50 and 2880. MIDI sync is evedently very hard to do
19: After trying the LP1 and the RC-50, Ive recently re-aquired the EDP. For all its faults, I must say, It is one of the most amazing musical tools ever made. I used to have 2, then I sold them at the promise of the LP1. Very nice thing the LP, but I had such a hard time syncing it to Ableton Live. Plus it crapped out at gigs when it was hot. The RC 50 was ok. No syncing capabilities at all.
200702/msg00176:Re: Back to the EDP, Home at last!
21: > After trying the LP1 and the RC-50, Ive recently re-aquired the EDP.
200702/msg00177:Re: Back to the EDP, Home at last!
25: > > After trying the LP1 and the RC-50, Ive recently re-aquired the EDP.
200702/msg00183:Re: Back to the EDP, Home at last!
28: > > > After trying the LP1 and the RC-50, Ive recently re-aquired the EDP.
200702/msg00185:Re: Back to the EDP, Home at last!
62: After trying the LP1 and the RC-50, Ive recently re-aquired the EDP. For
200702/msg00187:Re: Back to the EDP, Home at last!
86: > After trying the LP1 and the RC-50, Ive recently
200702/msg00191:Fim and soundtrack tip Babel (O.T)
68: > > I have a new song that I made with my Boss RC-50
3: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: RC-50 wierdness 19: ok... I found something I don't like about the RC-50.
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 20: I haven't done it but I've been thinking about it. I think I would slave my RC 50 to MIDI Time Code from Pro Tools - or vice versa. So you need some kind of time clock - if your Pro Tools interface isn't generating one - to slave your system to. Then all the elements SHOULD sync up nicely. That's how I used to slave my sequencer, Pro Tools, keyboard arpeggiators (MIDI Beat Clock), video etc. I haven't checked to see if the RC 50 generates time code. It MIGHT generate Midi Beat Clock which can work. Not as elegant as time code. Actually, it's possible the RC50 only SEES and HEARS MIDI Beat Clock. I should check.
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 18: On Feb 11, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Richard Sales wrote:Hi TeddyI haven't done it but I've been thinking about it. I think I would slave my RC 50 to MIDI Time Code from Pro Tools - or vice versa. So you need some kind of time clock - if your Pro Tools interface isn't generating one - to slave your system to. Then all the elements SHOULD sync up nicely. maybe I didn't enunciate it right.I don't even want to slave the 2 together. I just want to record the looped elements into pro tools again individually and have them so I can mix.the problem I have is that the RC-50's tempo is not what it says it is, according to pro tools.One problem I have with the RC 50 is even when the click or rhythm track is set to go out the sub it comes out the main into my guitar amp. Hummmm! Not good.that you can set per patch OR globally in the system menu. if you do it per patch you have to set in each patch. I use a 3 amp setup with gtr loops in one, vocal loops in another and the crappy drum machine through all sorts of weirdness out the mains. the drag for me is you can't pan the guide drums.But I'm having TONS of fun with it. I can almost see the whites in the eyes of the Looperlative Army coming at me... hear the roll of their snare drums... and I know I'll have to break down and get one someday soon. I SURRENDER! But other more critical things - or crucial to the SOUND - keep jumping in the path. I don't care what it is, carrying a rack to a gig doesn't interest me in the least.Got a Fulltone Tube Tape Echo and that's been a blast. My old tape Echoplex was having a near death experience so it's going off to the hospital (and hopefully not the morgue) soon. Two new (old) amps coming soon. Late fifties early sixties Magnatone 213s. A Durham Sex Drive. New Area 51 guts for my Cry Baby. Fun stuff. ahhhh... nice. I have 5 magnatones, they are amazing. Teddy
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 29: > the problem I have is that the RC-50's tempo is not what it says it
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 27: the problem I have is that the RC-50's tempo is not what it says it is, according to pro tools.
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 21: we played the stuff live with my RC-50 running into pro tools
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 28: > we played the stuff live with my RC-50 running into pro tools
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 18: On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Richard Sales wrote:Hi TeddyI haven't done it but I've been thinking about it. I think I would slave my RC 50 to MIDI Time Code from Pro Tools - or vice versa. So you need some kind of time clock - if your Pro Tools interface isn't generating one - to slave your system to. Then all the elements SHOULD sync up nicely. maybe I didn't enunciate it right.I don't even want to slave the 2 together. I just want to record the looped elements into pro tools again individually and have them so I can mix.the problem I have is that the RC-50's tempo is not what it says it is, according to pro tools. Well... I haven't tried this so I don't know. Are you using Pro Tools as a sequencer for MIDI stuff? I would just not use the tempo function in Pro Tools if you're not using it as a sequencer. But I might not be understanding what's going on still. I've never had any luck with tempos and sync without some master clock running the show. the problem with that would be that the RC-50 was running the clock when the first thing was recorded, so how is clocking to pro tools going to lock any better? the RC-50 is clocking to itself fine, it's just that... well. ok... here's my process:1 play awesome song with band live and loop stuffRC-50 gets recorded onto it's own mono channel in PT (I run it all out of it's own amp)I set the tempo in PT to match the RC-50'sI line up the whole song so the loops recorded live start where the tempo starts and the band followseverything is fine for 8 bars or so, but then it starts driftingby the end of the song the click is an 1/8 note off from the live RC-50 partSO the main problem for me is that the RC-50's tempo is not what it says it is.my fix so far has been to play with the tempo in pro tools to try to get it to line up with my recorded RC-50 loopsseems like the RC-50 is off by about .05 bpmso if my RC-50 tempo is 120 I have to set PT to 119.95 to synch with what I've recordedthe reason I want to do this is because later I want to grab those parts from the RC-50 so I can get separated sounds to mix in with the amp sound.I don't want to have to record the whole song in, I just want to record 1 phrase and loop it in pro tools.If I didn't use a tempo in pro tools I wouldn't be able to loop the parts in pro tools as easily.I guess another fix could be to just play the stuff from the RC-50 how it is for the whole song and not set a tempo in pro tools and just line that up to the down beat of my recorded loops, that should be a more accurate fix actually. then I can just ignore the tempo like Andy butler suggested. One problem I have with the RC 50 is even when the click or rhythm track is set to go out the sub it comes out the main into my guitar amp. Hummmm! Not good. that you can set per patch OR globally in the system menu. if you do it per patch you have to set in each patch. I use a 3 amp setup with gtr loops in one, vocal loops in another and the crappy drum machine through all sorts of weirdness out the mains. the drag for me is you can't pan the guide drums. I've done this and it still leaks out the main! I've done it globally and per patch. I'm a little mystified. weird, that doesn't happen here. I will check again though.Got a Fulltone Tube Tape Echo and that's been a blast. My old tape Echoplex was having a near death experience so it's going off to the hospital (and hopefully not the morgue) soon. Two new (old) amps coming soon. Late fifties early sixties Magnatone 213s. A Durham Sex Drive. New Area 51 guts for my Cry Baby. Fun stuff. ahhhh... nice. I have 5 magnatones, they are amazing. Well... I have three - or will when the next two arrive. I love the sound so much. Very thick and rich and fat. One of the last real bargains in vintage amps.have you check out the magnatone/valco yahoo group? some very informative magnatone people on there.Teddy
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 18: not so much. then I would have to use that clock, whatever it is when I play live and I can't do that.thanks for you suggestion thoughteddyOn Feb 12, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Joshua Carroll wrote: Sorry to butt in. I'm not an RC 50 user, but I think I understand. You'll have to use some sort of time clock sync. Your RC 50 and your computer are using two different clocks which will, invariably, run at slightly different speeds. No clock is perfect. But if you slave one to the other, they'll be running off the same clock, and then things will line up. --Josh Teddy wrote: On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Richard Sales wrote: Hi Teddy I haven't done it but I've been thinking about it. I think I would slave my RC 50 to MIDI Time Code from Pro Tools - or vice versa. So you need some kind of time clock - if your Pro Tools interface isn't generating one - to slave your system to. Then all the elements SHOULD sync up nicely. maybe I didn't enunciate it right. I don't even want to slave the 2 together. I just want to record the looped elements into pro tools again individually and have them so I can mix. the problem I have is that the RC-50's tempo is not what it says it is, according to pro tools. Well... I haven't tried this so I don't know. Are you using Pro Tools as a sequencer for MIDI stuff? I would just not use the tempo function in Pro Tools if you're not using it as a sequencer. But I might not be understanding what's going on still. I've never had any luck with tempos and sync without some master clock running the show. the problem with that would be that the RC-50 was running the clock when the first thing was recorded, so how is clocking to pro tools going to lock any better? the RC-50 is clocking to itself fine, it's just that... well. ok... here's my process: 1 play awesome song with band live and loop stuff RC-50 gets recorded onto it's own mono channel in PT (I run it all out of it's own amp) I set the tempo in PT to match the RC-50's I line up the whole song so the loops recorded live start where the tempo starts and the band follows everything is fine for 8 bars or so, but then it starts drifting by the end of the song the click is an 1/8 note off from the live RC-50 part SO the main problem for me is that the RC-50's tempo is not what it says it is. my fix so far has been to play with the tempo in pro tools to try to get it to line up with my recorded RC-50 loops seems like the RC-50 is off by about .05 bpm so if my RC-50 tempo is 120 I have to set PT to 119.95 to synch with what I've recorded the reason I want to do this is because later I want to grab those parts from the RC-50 so I can get separated sounds to mix in with the amp sound. I don't want to have to record the whole song in, I just want to record 1 phrase and loop it in pro tools. If I didn't use a tempo in pro tools I wouldn't be able to loop the parts in pro tools as easily. I guess another fix could be to just play the stuff from the RC-50 how it is for the whole song and not set a tempo in pro tools and just line that up to the down beat of my recorded loops, that should be a more accurate fix actually. then I can just ignore the tempo like Andy butler suggested. One problem I have with the RC 50 is even when the click or rhythm track is set to go out the sub it comes out the main into my guitar amp. Hummmm! Not good. that you can set per patch OR globally in the system menu. if you do it per patch you have to set in each patch. I use a 3 amp setup with gtr loops in one, vocal loops in another and the crappy drum machine through all sorts of weirdness out the mains. the drag for me is you can't pan the guide drums. I've done this and it still leaks out the main! I've done it globally and per patch. I'm a little mystified. weird, that doesn't happen here. I will check again though. Got a Fulltone Tube Tape Echo and that's been a blast. My old tape Echoplex was having a near death experience so it's going off to the hospital (and hopefully not the morgue) soon. Two new (old) amps coming soon. Late fifties early sixties Magnatone 213s. A Durham Sex Drive. New Area 51 guts for my Cry Baby. Fun stuff. ahhhh... nice. I have 5 magnatones, they are amazing. Well... I have three - or will when the next two arrive. I love the sound so much. Very thick and rich and fat. One of the last real bargains in vintage amps. have you check out the magnatone/valco yahoo group? some very informative magnatone people on there. Teddy
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28: obviously that's what the rc-50 is for or the echoplex, both of which
3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 19: can you clock protools (only now, not live) to the rc-50 just to get
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3: Re: RC-50 wierdness 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 wierdness 18: If I'm reading your previous posts correctly, you're getting your value for the RC-50 loop tempo by looking at the RC-50 display, and then entering that value into PT, correct? And that the RC-50 loop tempo is set by you at the gig via tap tempo?
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 18: Thanks to everyone who made suggestions on this topic.I did an RC-50 experiment tonight.track 12 bar loop of the guide in the RC-50 and looped it in pro tools.track 2I recorded a 10 minute segment of the guide in the RC-50 without sending midi clock to itit did the same thing it has always done, won't sync to PT's click. so the theory of the approximate tap tempo is debunked. apparently the RC-50 doesn't care if you use the knob or tap, it's going to mess it up the same amount.track 3recorded a 10 minute segment of the guide with midi beat clock into the RC-50 from pro toolsthe guide was 1600 samples behind pro tools click, so I put a delay on PT's click. it seemed to shift somewhere between 1600 samples an 1400 samples behind PT.track 4re-recorded the guide for 10 minutes and lined it up to the previously recorded guide. THAT worked perfectly !!!!!!!SO.... in conclusion, to answer my own question:The RC-50 has a mind of it's own and if you want to re-record things in later from it, better to just play it in for the duration of the song. OR the RC-50's tempo display is off/slow by about .05 bpm at 120 bpm.Teddy
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 18: also, I talked to Roland US tech support tonight. They are aware of this problem and have voiced it to Japan but get no response.bummer. it's such an awesome box for looping, and they advertise it as being able to sync with rest of the band. I hope they fix it soon. Maybe they haven't sold enough of them to care. The support guy seemed really bummed that he couldn't help.TeddyOn Feb 12, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Teddy wrote:Thanks to everyone who made suggestions on this topic.I did an RC-50 experiment tonight.track 12 bar loop of the guide in the RC-50 and looped it in pro tools.track 2I recorded a 10 minute segment of the guide in the RC-50 without sending midi clock to itit did the same thing it has always done, won't sync to PT's click. so the theory of the approximate tap tempo is debunked. apparently the RC-50 doesn't care if you use the knob or tap, it's going to mess it up the same amount.track 3recorded a 10 minute segment of the guide with midi beat clock into the RC-50 from pro toolsthe guide was 1600 samples behind pro tools click, so I put a delay on PT's click. it seemed to shift somewhere between 1600 samples an 1400 samples behind PT.track 4re-recorded the guide for 10 minutes and lined it up to the previously recorded guide. THAT worked perfectly !!!!!!!SO.... in conclusion, to answer my own question:The RC-50 has a mind of it's own and if you want to re-record things in later from it, better to just play it in for the duration of the song. OR the RC-50's tempo display is off/slow by about .05 bpm at 120 bpm.Teddy
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 19: I've never had any luck syncing the RC-50. I did notice on the Roland website, there was a firmware update. But this was for the glitch that caused the bit of silence when going from record to play. Its still a little weird. I just always play one more cycle with the RC off beofre I hit play. Still, the fact that they posted an update causes me to hope they will continue to try to fix it.
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 18: call them once a week to complain about this stuff. If they don't hear from us it will never get fixed.squeaky wheels uniteTeddyOn Feb 13, 2007, at 10:35 AM, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: I've never had any luck syncing the RC-50. I did notice on the Roland website, there was a firmware update. But this was for the glitch that caused the bit of silence when going from record to play. Its still a little weird. I just always play one more cycle with the RC off beofre I hit play. Still, the fact that they posted an update causes me to hope they will continue to try to fix it. MFC -------------- Original message -------------- From: Teddy <teddybutter@mac.com> also, I talked to Roland US tech support tonight. They are aware of this problem and have voiced it to Japan but get no response. bummer. it's such an awesome box for looping, and they advertise it as being able to sync with rest of the band. I hope they fix it soon. Maybe they haven't sold enough of them to care. The support guy seemed really bummed that he couldn't help. Teddy On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Teddy wrote: Thanks to everyone who made suggestions on this topic. I did an RC-50 experiment tonight. track 1 2 bar loop of the guide in the RC-50 and looped it in pro tools. track 2 I recorded a 10 minute segment of the guide in the RC-50 without sending midi clock to it it did the same thing it has always done, won't sync to PT's click. so the theory of the approximate tap tempo is debunked. apparently the RC-50 doesn't care if you use the knob or tap, it's going to mess it up the same amount. track 3 recorded a 10 minute segment of the guide with midi beat clock into the RC-50 from pro tools the guide was 1600 samples behind pro tools click, so I put a delay on PT's click. it seemed to shift somewhere between 1600 samples an 1400 samples behind PT. track 4 re-recorded the guide for 10 minutes and lined it up to the previously recorded guide. THAT worked perfectly !!!!!!! SO.... in conclusion, to answer my own question: The RC-50 has a mind of it's own and if you want to re-record things in later from it, better to just play it in for the duration of the song. OR the RC-50's tempo display is off/slow by about .05 bpm at 120 bpm. Teddy
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 24: But the sync issue could be a death cap for the RC50. If this is true, it's only good for live in my book. That's too bad. I know Roland knows how to do sync. Sheesh! I used to sync my TR 808 & Jupiter 8 back before there was real sync - when synths were made of mud and dinosaur bones.
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 19: not a one of us has been able to sync the RC-50 to an external source
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 21: > I don't have a "both" setting in my RC-50... I have internal, remote,
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 21: -------------- Original message -------------- From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > Quoting Teddy : > > > I don't have a "both" setting in my RC-50... I have internal, remote, > > auto and patch > > Teddy, > > You are correct... what I called "Both" is in reality "Auto". Thank > you for clarifying. > > -- Kevin >
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 34: > > > I don't have a "both" setting in my RC-50... I have internal,
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3: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion 18: better to call them and just ask them how to make the RC-50 sync to an external device.the more the better.Guitar / Percussion Products: 323-890-3743or just email them here....http://backstage.rolandus.com/email_support/enjoyTeddyOn Feb 13, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Richard Sales wrote:Do you have an email address for the Roland Tech Dept? I'll write 'emrichard sales
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18: For 150 million pounds, I'd act like that guy that did the Boss RC-50 demo!Jfloridis@aol.com wrote: i must respond to this.......just saw the stones for the first time here in missoula, montana. yes, you read that correctly, missoula, montana. we didn't think they'd ever come here either...... i produce a spotlight program for musician's here for montana public radio......everyone from b.b king, bela fleck, eroica trio, to local artists,etc. had a chance to interview darryl jones, bass player for the stones. great guy, great interview.anyway, the actual concert was like nothing i've ever seen. i knew it would be a spectacle with fireworks and 10 story high tv's, etc. but i have to tell you......i can be pretty cynical, but at
3: Playing a round with the RC-50 10: Subject: Playing a round with the RC-50 23: Here's the problem: I want to sing a round using the RC-50. So I connect
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3: Re: Playing a round with the RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Playing a round with the RC-50 34: and the RC50 will switch directly to overdub mode without first going
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3: RC-50 Patch settings 10: Subject: RC-50 Patch settings 20: I've been reading through the RC-50 manual, and can't quite find the
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3: Re: RC-50 Patch settings 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Patch settings 31: I've been reading through the RC-50 manual, and can't quite find the answer to this question:
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3: More RC-50 Patch Selection 10: Subject: More RC-50 Patch Selection 26: pedal for 2 seconds to get the RC-50 in Patch Select Mode? Or not?
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3: Re: More RC-50 Patch Selection 10: Subject: Re: More RC-50 Patch Selection 37: I see that I can apply the function of switching phrases up or down to an extra controller pedal, but wouldn't I have to hold down the tempo pedal for 2 seconds to get the RC-50 in Patch Select Mode? Or not?
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3: Re: More RC-50 Patch Selection 10: Subject: Re: More RC-50 Patch Selection 30: The features of the RC-50 are much much deeper than the Boomerang which
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3: Re: More RC-50 Patch Selection 10: Subject: Re: More RC-50 Patch Selection 26: Fortunately, you can hook up to four external pedals to the RC50 and
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3: Re: More RC-50 Patch Selection 10: Subject: Re: More RC-50 Patch Selection 34: > Fortunately, you can hook up to four external pedals to the RC50 and
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3: RC-50 Feedback Issue -- Software Fix? 10: Subject: RC-50 Feedback Issue -- Software Fix? 19: I have one more question about the RC-50 if I may.
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3: RE: RC-50 Feedback Issue -- Software Fix? 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 Feedback Issue -- Software Fix? 20: The RC-50 doesn't have 0-100% feedback control like on delay units.
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3: Re: RC-50 Feedback Issue -- Software Fix? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Feedback Issue -- Software Fix? 30: >The RC-50 doesn't have 0-100% feedback control like on delay units.
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50: RC-20 or, if I must spend that much an RC-50.
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24: Is that a problem with most loopers? I was also considering the Boss RC-20 or, if I must spend that much an RC-50.Or maybe there's someway to get the JamMan to do what I want?Any ideas or suggestions?
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18: Yikes Sandy, $1000? It would be the single most expensive piece of music gear I'd own.It's a little out of my league I'm afraid. Hopefully there's something cheaper that would do what I want.Maybe the Boss RC-50. That's about $500. I could possible swing that.I'm surprised it's not a standard feature in any looper that allows multiple loops and is performance oriented. Otherwise you are limited to using loops you've prerecorded or, if you want to stick with live loops, only using one stack of loops. I guess most of the time I've hear performers use loopers it seems to be used this way - one continuously building loop. Or they just use it as a backing track to solo over 25: Is that a problem with most loopers? I was also considering the Boss RC-20 or, if I must spend that much an RC-50.Or maybe there's someway to get the JamMan to do what I want?Any ideas or suggestions?
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85: >> Boss RC-20 or, if I must spend that much an RC-50.
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60: RC-50, a 3 phrase stereo looper. Sub out's are send to aux-in to create feedback
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46: > - Last in the chain is the well known RC-50, a 3 phrase stereo looper.
3: rc50 feedback issue solved 10: Subject: rc50 feedback issue solved 20: long story short, i have both an rc50 and an edp with a berringher pedal. i had a gig where i was playing some "wallpaper music", but it was for an art museum, and it gave me some license for more fun than normal, so i brought both.... i had the edp in a rack with my board, pre-amp, etc, but i left the behringer pedal at home. had a great time......, and on the next gig i brought the signal from the rc50 into the input of the edp then sent that to the board.
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27: layers of sound for many years. I just purchased the RC-50, and have yet
71: > layers of sound for many years. I just purchased the RC-50, and have
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123: > >> layers of sound for many years. I just purchased the RC-50, and have
20: And... plug that RC50 in now! A whole world of wonder awaits you. Seriously. 41: layers of sound for many years. I just purchased the RC-50, and have yet to
32: > And... plug that RC50 in now! A whole world of 63: > the RC-50, and have
32: i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?
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18: Hi Martin, What you want to do seems quite basic. I'm sure that a rc50 would work great for you but I think the rc20xl would work just as well for you and is cheaper. I have had one before and it had 16 minutes of loop time with unlimited overdubs. It also saves your work when you turn it off and sounds pretty good IMO. 22: real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stopsand starts.i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?mdwww.myspace.com/martindawsquintet
23: the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically inreal time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stopsand starts.i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?
19: I'd sat the RC-50 is overkill for what you describe. 55: i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?
30: >I'd sat the RC-50 is overkill for what you describe. 66: >i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?
18: Don't forget, though, that the Jamman and RC20XL are both mono devices, so if stereo is an issue, these may not be suitable,martin daws <thepoetmd@hotmail.com> wrote: thanks for getting back to me.its appreciatedmd>From: x031661-loopers@yahoo.com>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Subject: Re: what looping tool? again>Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:51:44 -0800 (PST)>>I'd sat the RC-50 is overkill for what you describe.>I've used the digitech jamman and I think it would work well for what you >want to do.>>>----- Original Message ---->From: martin daws >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 5:37:06 AM>Subject: what 20: stops>and starts.>i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?>md>>www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet>>_________________________________________________________________>Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/>>>>>_________________________________________________________________Match.com - Click Here To Find Singles In Your Area Today! http://match.engb.msn.com/
3: rc50 patches 10: Subject: rc50 patches 22: on the rc50.... in fact it has a pedal setting to move from one to the other but
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3: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: RC-50 Software update question 19: Has anybody tried the RC50 software update? Its supposed to solve the momentary silence when going directly from record to play. I installed it and still can't tell a difference. Im quickly losing patience with Roland.
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3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 21: > Has anybody tried the RC50 software update? Its supposed to solve
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3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 21: -------------- Original message -------------- From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > Quoting midifriedchicken@comcast.net: > > > Has anybody tried the RC50 software update? Its supposed to solve > > the momentary silence when going directly from record to play. > > The V1.01 update allows you to switch between "Rhythm priority" and > "Sound priority". > > To choose the priority, hold down the switches as you switch on the power: > > Rhythm Priority: [LOOP SYNC]+[PHRASE 1] > Sound Priority: [LOOP SYNC]+[PHRASE 2] > > Note: the setting is saved in memory, so you don't need to carry out > this procedure every time you start up. > > Rhythm Priority has a delay as it syncs up the loops starting > position. In essence, the loop starts on the correct beat however i
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3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 21: -------------- Original message -------------- From: john floridis <jfloridis@aol.com> > i've found that it can make a big difference, the "sound priority" > vs. the "rhythm priority"......however, i have found that it does not > always store in the memory, and i need to test it to make sure it is > set correctly. > > having gone back to working occasionally with the edp and berhinger > pedal, that still seems more smooth, but with the software update the > rc50 is improved. > > john >
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22: them. This is why the RC-50 gets complaints here but the LP-1 and
200703/msg00156:Re: RC-50 Software update question
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200703/msg00163:Re: Zipper , an example (software testing)
24: Roland knew about some of the RC-50 issues already. 47: > This is why the RC-50 gets complaints here but the LP-1 and 2880 57: Isn't the RC-50 the first looper by a major company to have these sort of
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200703/msg00164:response today from boss regarding the rc50
3: response today from boss regarding the rc50 10: Subject: response today from boss regarding the rc50
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200703/msg00165:Re: RC-50 Software update question
3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 19: Imo the RC-50 is works fine since the 1.01 update. But I have the
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200703/msg00167:Re: RC-50 Software update question
3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 26: Imo the RC-50 is works fine since the 1.01 update. But I have the
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200703/msg00168:Re: response today from boss regarding the rc50
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200703/msg00169:Re: RC-50 Software update question
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200703/msg00171:Re: RC-50 Software update question
3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 22: if i look upon the rc50 as a three loop stereo device with midi out basic
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200703/msg00175:Re: Zipper , an example (software testing)
43: >Roland knew about some of the RC-50 issues already. 67: >>This is why the RC-50 gets complaints here but the LP-1 and 2880 77: >Isn't the RC-50 the first looper by a major company to have these
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200703/msg00176:Re: RC-50 Software update question
3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 21: -------------- Original message -------------- From: "arcmotion" <andrzej@arcmotion.com> > > so you could do a chord progression say with a beat that loops. Then copy > that patch to the next number ...and then freely move between each patch > without a glitch in the beat?? is that possible. > > > > Imo the RC-50 is works fine since the 1.01 update. But I have the impression > some users don't exactly know how the device works regarding tempo sync, > loop sync and loop quantize. There are excellent PDF support doc's on the > Roland web site that cover these subject, highly recommended :) > > Personally, I think the RC-50 and offers good value for the money. But you > can't and should not compare it to high end devices such as the EDP or LP-1; > it offers less features, it's more
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200703/msg00178:Re: Zipper , an example (software testing)
80: >> Roland knew about some of the RC-50 issues already. 104: >>> This is why the RC-50 gets complaints here but the LP-1 and 2880 114: >> Isn't the RC-50 the first looper by a major company to have these sort
200703/msg00180:Re: Zipper , an example (software testing)
26: But the major complaints so far with the RC-50 have to to with audio 28: that the Lexicon Jamman has no such issues and the RC-50 does? Too
200703/msg00187:Re: Zipper , an example (software testing)
29: > But the major complaints so far with the RC-50 have to to with audio 31: > the Lexicon Jamman has no such issues and the RC-50 does? 34: Just not quite so obvious as the RC-50 blank spaces. 50: I think it would be pushing it to describe the RC-50 gap as a feature.
200703/msg00220:I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related)
18: Howdy New here/been playing crazy stuff on the electric bass for about 30 years/grateful to be here. After using hard floor controlled phrase samplers for the last 10 years or so, I have been attempting to move into the 21st via a soft flying saucer. Only problem, forget folding space and all that jazz. I might as well be folding dinner napkins cause me auto pilot's dial is currently set to ignoramus. My hope is to become adept and much less inept via my understanding of the midi controlled soft universe. Currently I am using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus RMX. Are there other PC soft loop programs that are recommended "here"? My objectives are live performance oriented. The hardware I am hoping to incorporate into these performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49
200703/msg00221:Re: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related)
18: PC or Mac?On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:29 AM, DrXparaMental wrote:Howdy New here/been playing crazy stuff on the electric bass for about 30 years/grateful to be here. After using hard floor controlled phrase samplers for the last 10 years or so, I have been attempting to move into the 21st via a soft flying saucer. Only problem, forget folding space and all that jazz. I might as well be folding dinner napkins cause me auto pilot's dial is currently set to ignoramus. My hope is to become adept and much less inept via my understanding of the midi controlled soft universe. Currently I am using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus RMX. Are there other PC soft loop programs that are recommended "here"? My objectives are live performance oriented. The hardware I am hoping to incorporate into these performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & midi foot controller/16 channel mixer. No matter what my chops are like, I FULLY realize I know NOT. I have been just trying to "put it together" With your help, maybe I can... <help> Thanks, DrXPM Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
200703/msg00223:Re: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related)
29: > RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & midi foot controller/16
200703/msg00231:Re: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related)
43: > RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller &
200703/msg00235:Re: Some advice about the RC-50XL
19: make sure the rc50 is the master and not the slave ...otherwise things 21: wander due to a technical problem with the rc50......maybe fixed one day
200703/msg00249:Re: RC-50 Software update question
3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 19: had a late answer from roland support in the us regarding the rc50....but
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200703/msg00250:Re: RC-50 Software update question
3: Re: RC-50 Software update question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question 19: Has anyone performed the RC-50 update? it's v1.01 and 'fixes' the short
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200703/msg00251:Re: RC-50 Software update question (patch change glitch problem)
3: Re: RC-50 Software update question (patch change glitch problem) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question (patch change glitch problem)
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200703/msg00264:Re: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related)
34: ney IMO. There's this too: > > http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/tools.html > > > > > My objectives are live performance oriented. The > > hardware I am hoping to incorporate into these > > performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss > > RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & > > midi foot controller/16 channel mixer. > > Sounds like the making of a great loop setup. > Welcome. > > Mark > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ >
60: ---- The RC50 has 3 loop banks ... They are unsynced I believe ??? Or
71: > ---- The RC50 has 3 loop banks ... They are unsynced I believe ??? Or
21: just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true
26: > just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on
20: I didn't know that - what does that mean?THANKS!On 3/8/07, arcmotion <andrzej@arcmotion.com> wrote:>>> just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on an
51: > just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but
70: > ---- The RC50 has 3 loop banks ... They are unsynced I
26: with a Boss RC-50. With both setups, I have run the output of the 46: pedal. I'm using a Boss FV-50L with the RC-50 right now, and it is
36: > pedal. I'm using a Boss FV-50L with the RC-50 right now, and it is
39: *QUESTION:* what about using the RC-50's expression pedal control for 43: control the RC-50's expression pedal jack?
3: RC-50 for sale. 10: Subject: RC-50 for sale. 19: Okay, I know the second I sell this thing, Roland will instantly resolve all the midi sync issues. So, Im going to do all the other RC-50 owners a favor and sell mine.
200703/msg00408:Anyone have experience with the ReJam?
33: RC-50, or if you have to cycle through banks to change tracks.
3: RC-50 Some wav files don't work 10: Subject: RC-50 Some wav files don't work 19: I'm using an RC-50 with a Mac (OS X v10.4.9). I notice that sometimes
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200703/msg00436:Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work
3: Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work 19: You;ll have to rename the files for RC50 to recognise them. I think u
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200703/msg00437:Re: [SPAM] Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work
3: Re: [SPAM] Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work 10: Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work 24: > You;ll have to rename the files for RC50 to recognise them. I think
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200703/msg00462:Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work
3: Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work 27: > I'm using an RC-50 with a Mac (OS X v10.4.9). I notice that
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26: I'm a fairly new looper too. I just purchased the Boss RC-50. I love
46: > I'm a fairly new looper too. I just purchased the Boss RC-50. I
3: rc50 syncing 10: Subject: rc50 syncing 19: i've been using the rc50 for some time now, but one thing i cannot
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3: Re: rc50 syncing 10: Subject: Re: rc50 syncing 20: RC-50), but try this (page 10):
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3: Re: rc50 syncing 10: Subject: Re: rc50 syncing 24: http://bossus.com/manuals/RC50WS06.pdf
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200703/msg00565:Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's!
18: (I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page.) I don't think I said it did, did I, ye of the dry (attempted) wit. (Vitriol) Hahaha. I think I remember all the nasty comments about the guy that did the Boss demo of the RC-50. Gimme a fuckin' break. As I implied, though. It's just another example of some kid's parents dough that financed his "collection" of gear. I've known plenty of those types. In fact, I still have a couple of their "albums" that I save as a kind of music house of horrors (one from my ex-boss's kid that had to be an example of the worst crap ever promulgated on an unsuspecting public - next to American Idol applicants, of course). And, just for the record, I'm a looper that doesn't do drone-y stuff (currently). I play mostly typically-structured rock with extended solos. Hence,
3: Re: rc50 syncing 10: Subject: Re: rc50 syncing
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200703/msg00567:Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's!
22: (Vitriol) Hahaha. I think I remember all the nasty comments about the guy that did the Boss demo of the RC-50. I didn't read any of that thread, nor did I participate. Maybe I should
3: rc-50 feedback 10: Subject: rc-50 feedback 20: to have some sort of feedback control with the rc-50. I'm borrowing
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3: Re: rc-50 feedback 10: Subject: Re: rc-50 feedback 23: wonderful folks of LD I'm much happier with my RC50 now. :)
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200703/msg00598:Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's!
20: looper as the other RC-50 wanker(not to offend any 38: > about the guy that did the Boss demo of the RC-50.
200703/msg00603:Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's!
20: ones that continually bash Roland for the RC-50.
3: rc50 decay..no mixer required. 10: Subject: rc50 decay..no mixer required.
200703/msg00655:Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required.
3: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required. 10: Subject: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required.
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200703/msg00657:Re: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required.
3: Re: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required. 10: Subject: Re: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required. 49: Subject: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer
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200703/msg00660:Re: rc50 decay..no mixer required.
3: Re: rc50 decay..no mixer required. 10: Subject: Re: rc50 decay..no mixer required. 22: Please forgive me for chiming in obtusely, but I have an RC-50
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200703/msg00664:Re: rc50 decay..no mixer required.
3: Re: rc50 decay..no mixer required. 10: Subject: Re: rc50 decay..no mixer required. 33: > Please forgive me for chiming in obtusely, but I have an RC-50 question that someone may know the answer to quickly. Is it possible to mix/mute the main throughput signal path and output just the loops you are creating on the RC-50? My old (NOISY!) Boomerang has a mute switch but I am not certain if the same is possible on this device or not. You help will be greatly appreciated.
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200703/msg00683:Re: Roland announce RE-20 'space echo'
23: I'm happy to get the RC50 in the near future - as there was no "RC50XL" 24: which I had hoped for, I will order the RC50 after having played it for
21: heavy use of looping with the RC-50 and EH 16 second delay at the
200703/msg00701:Re: new videos from Mister Shifty
31: > heavy use of looping with the RC-50 and EH 16 second delay at the same
200703/msg00712:Re: new videos from Mister Shifty
27: heavy use of looping with the RC-50 and EH 16 second delay at the same
200704/msg00209:RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock
3: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 10: Subject: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 21: I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas on this RC-50 issue..
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200704/msg00210:Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock
3: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 19: I thought i heard someone say a while back that the RC50 has to be the
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200704/msg00216:Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock
3: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 21: But we don't want the RC50 to be the master! :) We want the drummer
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200704/msg00217:Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock
3: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 36: > But we don't want the RC50 to be the master! :) We want the drummer
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200704/msg00240:RE: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock
3: RE: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 19: I also noticed some sync issues with my RC-50 and my synth's arpeggiators.
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200704/msg00241:Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock
3: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 25: the RC-50 has trouble with its sync while acting as a slave. The
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200704/msg00242:Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock
3: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 22: I'm afraid the RC50 is suspect. And your observations seem to jibe with Kenny's findings.
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200704/msg00244:Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock
3: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 tempo sync issues via MIDI clock 34: Yes, we do know about the issue. It is not a secret by any means that the RC-50 has trouble with its sync while acting as a slave. The truth is, we don\'t have power over \"the Japanese people\"; they have power over us. It is akin to asking guitar center to have one of their dealers change their product for them. We are the US distributors for the Roland brand. We have asked many many times for an update from Japan because we genuinely want to improve the product for you guys. That is all we can do. We will pass this email on to management for you as well.
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200704/msg00371:Re: Help: RC-20XL or Digitech Jam-Man? Quantize feature?
34: I own a Boss RC50. While the RC50 has been (rightfully) criticized 36: quantize feature is very useful (I am pleased with the RC50 as a 38: then, while it plays, record other loops that are longer -- the RC50 42: However, for less than one bar -- the RC50 won't do the deed. My
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200704/msg00373:Re: Help: RC-20XL or Digitech Jam-Man? Quantize feature?
18: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: .......That is, I can record a single one-bar loop and then, while it plays, record other loops that are longer -- the RC50 quantizes such that the long loops are always integrally related to the short loop........Wow, that's a handy feature. I wasn't aware of this potential. This would be really useful for me.Stephen
200704/msg00375:Re: Help: RC-20XL or Digitech Jam-Man? Quantize feature?
26: > then, while it plays, record other loops that are longer -- the RC50 42: when you press the pedal to end the loop, the RC50 internally 44: short loops -- when you end those loops the RC50 will round (quantize)
200704/msg00378:Re: [LOOP] Help: RC-20XL or Digitech Jam-Man? Quantize feature?
29: My comment about the "not less than one bar" applied to my RC50 37: Again, speaking about the RC50 -- if the guide is turned "on" (that 39: tempo. If the guide is turned "off" then the RC50 uses the sample's 49: because my only experience is with the RC50.
200704/msg00379:RE: [LOOP] Help: RC-20XL or Digitech Jam-Man? Quantize feature?
33: Yep, I enjoy the RC50, too.
200704/msg00381:Re: RC-20XL or Digitech Jam-Man? Quantize feature?
33: I also own the rc50 and suspect some of the sync and timing issues (a great
200704/msg00400:trade my rc-50 for something smaller + cash
3: trade my rc-50 for something smaller + cash 10: Subject: trade my rc-50 for something smaller + cash 22: condition rc-50. Its awesome, just way too much for what I realistically use it
200704/msg00606:Equipment cases and airline travel
31: bring a stomp-box such as my RC50. Also travel with my Theremin -- 39: laptop, Theremin, equipment rack, and RC50, patchcords, etc.
200705/msg00044:Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V07 #285
28: I have an RC50 and like you, I am still get used to hitting the pedals
200705/msg00391:Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible??
3: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 10: Subject: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 21: my RC50 at the front of stage.. but I sample effects from the drum
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200705/msg00396:Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible??
3: Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 22: pedals, and made a little stand for them in back of the rc-50...
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200705/msg00400:Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible??
3: Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 28: > pedals, and made a little stand for them in back of the rc-50...
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200705/msg00448:Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible??
3: Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 19: http://www.peterpringle.com/rc50.html
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200705/msg00460:Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible??
3: Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible?? 18: wow, nice... so you obviously opened the box and did some soldering. did you make a custom connector?would be fun to see the details of how you did that.teddyOn May 18, 2007, at 8:34 PM, prcamann@aol.com wrote: http://www.peterpringle.com/rc50.htm
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200705/msg00465:Re: Boss RC50 looper Questions... MODs.. is this possible??
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28: and short loops which will be feeded into a RC-50.
41: > feeded into a RC-50. 43: I'm somewhat confused regarding DD-20 or RC-50...or are you thinking about 44: using DD-20 plus RC-50 plus DL4? 50: think a DL4 in addition to a RC50 and a DD20 would make that much sense,
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62: > and short loops which will be feeded into a RC-50.
200705/msg00571:looking for looper that syncs to real drums
57: 1 or 2 bpm. Actually the Boss RC-50 exactly does what I am looking for. I tap
200705/msg00574:AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
21: thanks alot. I am still wondering why the RC-50 sounds that bad. I just
200705/msg00576:AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
25: have the RC-50 for testing. I am not shure why, but somehow I don't like
200705/msg00579:RE: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
54: > have the RC-50 for testing. I am not shure why, but somehow I don't like
200705/msg00580:AW: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
65: > have the RC-50 for testing. I am not shure why, but somehow I don't like
200705/msg00581:Re: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
18: I think this is similar to what Per is saying, but I'd encourage you to learn how to "restart" your loops on the RC-50 and try that with your drummer. So, if a loop starts to drift from where the drummer's beat is - *you* force a restart of the loop exactly on the "1". If he's reasonably tight (sounds like he is), then he won't have drifted too far from the tempo caught in your loop, and everything will be good again for a while.
200705/msg00583:Re: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
22: > you to learn how to "restart" your loops on the RC-50 and try that
200705/msg00585:AW: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
37: style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the RC-50 you can 89: learn how to "restart" your loops on the RC-50 and try that with your
200705/msg00588:RE: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
35: > > you to learn how to "restart" your loops on the RC-50 and try that
200705/msg00597:AW: AW: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
22: time)" for "Max numbers of loops" for the RC-50. This is wrong. You can
200705/msg00598:AW: AW: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
24: Do I keep the RC-50 (I need at least 2-3 tracks) or do I go for a software
200705/msg00599:Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
23: > time)" for "Max numbers of loops" for the RC-50. This is wrong. You 32: The RC-50 works like this: In Multi Mode you can use three parallel
200705/msg00600:AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: looking for looper that syncs to real drums
31: > time)" for "Max numbers of loops" for the RC-50. This is wrong. You 40: The RC-50 works like this: In Multi Mode you can use three parallel
20: beats to my loops for live performances. I'm using a BOSS RC-50 23: to the loops you've created on the RC-50? Thanks for your
34: > learn how to "restart" your loops on the RC-50 and
31: > RC-50 loopstation and was curious if anyone had any experiences 33: > the handsonic to the loops you've created on the RC-50? Thanks for
19: the best pedal to do what you want is the boss rc50. it has stereo 27: want to do, it's the rc50 in my opinion.
21: the timestreching of the RC-50 and MIDI syncing is not usable though. 26: > the best pedal to do what you want is the boss rc50. it has stereo sub 34: > want to do, it's the rc50 in my opinion.
25: the RC-50? Many thanks for the feedback. 33: the timestreching of the RC-50 and MIDI syncing is not usable though. 41: boss rc50. it has stereo sub 56: want to do, it's the rc50 in my opinion.
18: yes, the click can go through the aux (and be absent from the mains) on the RC-50.DougOn 5/30/07, Bill Trible < 28: the RC-50? Many thanks for the feedback. 34: the timestreching of the RC-50 and MIDI syncing is not usable though. 42: boss rc50. it has stereo sub
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74: RC-50? Many thanks for the feedback. 81: the timestreching of the RC-50 and MIDI syncing is not usable though. Sounds 91: rc50. it has stereo sub 99: want to do, it's the rc50 in my opinion.
26: A serious down side is the Roland RC50. Archiving is a pain in the butt. No names attached to the loops or patches when saved to HD. Apparently its Midi Beat Clock doesn't work with other devices. It's so easy to erase things you don't wanna erase. You can't import archived specific patches. At least I haven't found out how. Apparently the input has some kind of guitar amp modeling thing going and you can't turn it off. I don't like that. I'm looking at the Looperlative now that I know more about what I want.
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3: AW: RC50 10: Subject: AW: RC50 36: The RC-50 in my opinion is pretty hard to use when playing in a loop
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20: I will send my RC-50 back. My old RC-20 is staying on my pedal board
37: I tested a Boss RC-50 for a while and it could do switching between
3: OT: Boss RC-50 For Sale 10: Subject: OT: Boss RC-50 For Sale 18: Hi: If anyone has an interest, I'm going to sell my RC-50 on eBay. Thought I'd place the info here. It's in absolute mint condition, includes original box, docs, addendum for latest O/S upgrade, latest O/S upgrade and I'll throw in the remote Roland FS-6 pedal. Make a reasonable offer, if interested. My handle on eBay is Mintgearowner for feedback checking purposes. Regards, Paul
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19: Or I think the RC-50 might be a good match for you.
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24: > Or I think the RC-50 might be a good match for you.
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18: Roland RC50XL - it love you long time. 3 times (3 banks). Or go Mobius on a laptop.
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43: Roland RC50XL - it love you long time. 3 times (3 banks). Or go Mobius on a laptop.
200706/msg00323:Loopscape with Voice, some efx and RC50
3: Loopscape with Voice, some efx and RC50 10: Subject: Loopscape with Voice, some efx and RC50 25: ideas captured ideas the RC50. The tune Nebulla was inspired by
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18: Total Block! Total Block! (from House of 1000 Corpses). I keep coming up with pretty good/interesting loops (guitar and drum backing) with my RC-50. But, I can't seem to develop a corresponding "verse" to the initial loop structure (following a somewhat standard song structure). Any ideas to help the creative juices flowing from this esteemed group of musucians? Thanks in advance, Jake
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18: Any ideas to help the creative juices flowing from this esteemed group of musucians? Thanks in advance, JakeI try to think of a harmonic structure I want to work with between each corresponding part.Then I try to think of building blocks and how to arrange these blocksMy system might work something like this.AA+ (where + is a variation of the main theme)BB+A+ / B (where / represents layering in this case A on top of B)C/A+/B (introducing a new motif on top of the existing structure)C/A+/B+C/B+C/BBNow I run 3 independent looping rigs so it is relatively easy for me to work in this fashion without tripping over myself- I don't know if the RC50 gives you this degree of flexibility.Regards, Jim Richmond
3: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: I now "get" the RC-50. 20: The little stutter going from "record" to "play" always bugged the shit out of me. So, a few friends came over to play this weekend and we connected a Yamaha DD55 to the RC-50. The RC-50 was the master. This seems to be the only way to use sync with the RC-50. No matter, as it works great like this. The DD55 (a hugely under-appreciated device) syncs to the RC-50's tempo. No more stutter as the loops are perfectly set.
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131: price tag between the RC50 and the EH 2880, you get less looping than with
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 18: so... why and how did the stutter disappear?are you saying that by using the RC-50 as a master device for something else that loses the stutter?I love my RC-50, by the way. I have no idea what was even wrong with it, but then again I always use it to make in time loops. I think that if you were using it to make loops with no click track it might not be the optimal device.teddyOn Jun 11, 2007, at 11:51 AM, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: I was going to sell this thing. But! Now I've figured out a way to use this thing in a really cool way. The little stutter going from "record" to "play" always bugged the shit out of me. So, a few friends came over to play this weekend and we connected a Yamaha DD55 to the RC-50. The RC-50 was the master. This seems to be the only way to use sync with the RC-50. No matter, as it works great like this. The DD55 (a hugely under-appreciated device) syncs to the RC-50's tempo. No more stutter as the loops are perfectly set. Now the DD55 with somewhat decent sounds can played by a drummer or percussionest with a basic click track to guide them and the loops on the RC-50 never drift like with a real drum set. The click track can be on the DD55 and be a basic hihat, or conga. Or it can be on the RC-50. Either way, it can still very musical. This weekend we are going to experiment with different wav files imported into the RC 50 as rhythm guides. Also, we setup the DD55 to trigger BFD which sounds as good as any drum set. This could be the we gig from now on. Fewer mouths to feed, smaller stages are now available and setup is easy and quick. The only concern is hearing the initial guides. So monitoring is key. So far it seem very doable. We have a gig in few weeks that we are going to do this way. Ill let you guys know how it went. MFC
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22: (RC-20/XL, RC-2, RC-50) and Digitech (the Digitech Jamman with its
3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 18: I dislike all the button presses I have to make to set up an initial loop's phrases. I know one can copy a saved loop 'environment' to other loops so that the button presses are then not as numerous-maybe I'm lazy... And you need an FS-6 pedal to increment/decrement loops-the function of which should be part of the main pedalboard, IMHO. Kee-rist, it's big enough. PBreachinThePeace@aol.com wrote: The RC-50 is the biggest waste of money I have ever made the mistake of investing in. It's cumbersome to say the least in that it's LOADED with useless features. The guide is the most inept feature of all. If you can't keep time with your foot you have no business
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 18: Just so people searching the web for looping tool ideas don't get the wrong idea about the RC-50 from an obviously hot headed and out of control person...The RC-50 is a totally different animal from the Boomerang, which is a great looper for sure.I don't know if you actually tried one in real life but...for me... it's a pretty good solution to how I want to loop funky bits and have a drummer play along with me. I use the guide extensively as a way for my drummer to have a click track so my loops don't have to act as one.there's nothing less funky than having one of your loops be stiff so the drummer can follow it.with the guide I can play as swampy and slinky as I want to and the drummer still has something stiff to follow so the whole band sounds right.I use other loopers for pitch/reverse/ambient stuff.the RC-50 is just a great collector of things to loop and turn on and off.If you don't like it, don't buy it. but don't come on here and spout hateful propoganda like this.different loopers work in different situations. period. get used to it.the RC-50 is a great looper for a certain way of looping.TeddyOn Jun 13, 2007, at 8:15 AM, BreachinThePeace@aol.com wrote: The RC-50 is the biggest waste of money I have ever made the mistake of investing in. It's cumbersome to say the least in that it's LOADED with useless features. The guide is the most inept feature of all. If you can't keep time with your foot you have no business looping. I always wanted, and had even wrote and suggested the product 10 years ago, a multiple master stereo version of the good old (noisy as hell) Boomerang which IS the only decent floor looper ever made. What a waste of technology and more directly, efficiency. Jeff
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 18: Hi Richard,not enough loops as in not enough drum patterns? or not enough places to save loops?the levels are not hard to control if you set them all at unity and save it as a default patch.I think that is the thing about the RC-50. It's pretty flexible, which can be a problem for some.Once you understand that you'll be setting it up how you like it, then saving a default patch with those settings and always using that as a start patch, I think the thing is pretty darn good.As far as sync, we have some new people chiming in that it works fine if it is the master.I haven't tried it that way as I don't have anything to use with it.So that scenario might be fine.noisy? didn't notice that.can't turn modeling off? you mean like the built in flat amp simulator? that only works on the mic or aux, so it's not an issue with the main guitar input.it doesn't gate quiet passages here. It is flawless in sound quality.TeddyOn Jun 13, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Richard Sales wrote:I don't mind the RC50. But there are issues! (Off the top of my head without thinking about it too much...)1.) not enough loops. I don't like overdubbing because the levels are hard to control. I might have to work on that, though.2.) it does something funny to the sound (I THINK it's the RC50 that's doing it. I need to do a study of it. But I think it gates quiet passages.)3.) I think it's noisy (pretty sure it's the RC 50)4.) If Teddy is right, sync issues, which I haven't tested yet but, when I get around to it, could be fatal5.) The built in modeling can't be turned off unless you're going in mic or aux. The modeling thing might be what causes the gating effect I'm hearing. What bothers me most about the modeling is that if and when I change loopers, the whole picture will change. However, I LOVE the sound I'm getting.The nice thing about not enough loops is it forces economy and sometimes economy forces creativity. And also thinking about structure, if structure is a part of your game. And the guide track has forced me to realize that I write a lot in 5 and 7/4. I would have run into that with the sequencer too, but I've been on an anti sequencer jag for a while now. I would never say it's a big waste of money because it's opened up whole new continents of possibility for me, GIANT continents!) but probably any quality sound looper could have done that. At some point I'm sure I'll graduate to a Looperlative, but I need to really study that. I haven't really done any real tests to see if the sound issues are the RC50 or the gizmos I have in the chain. Whenever I sit down to test it I start playing which always carries me away from the world of rational thinking, testing etc. And that by itself is worth much more than 500 ducks.richard salesOn 13-Jun-07, at 7:59 AM, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: I understand where you're coming from. But in the situation I outlined, it works great. Nobodys time is perfect that the loop is flawless. A drummer playing in time will always drift a little. Even if you are that perfect, you will never hit every loop all night at a gig.But yes, for solo stuff the RC-50 has its issues. -------------- Original message -------------- From: BreachinThePeace@aol.com The RC-50 is the biggest waste of money I have ever made the mistake of investing in. It's cumbersome to say the least in that it's LOADED with useless features. The guide is the most inept feature of all. If you can't keep time with your foot you have no business looping. I always wanted, and had even wrote and suggested the product 10 years ago, a multiple master stereo version of the good old (noisy as hell) Boomerang which IS the only decent floor looper ever made. What a waste of technology and more directly, efficiency. Jeff
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 23: Listen. I have been using looping devices most likely prior to you being born. Hot Headed? Screw you and your cat pal. Don't EVER tell me what and what not to say. That is precisely what a forum is all about. Who died and made you king looper to begin with? The BEST loopers on the planet bar none are software, midi controlled. PERIOD. My point was this. You want a new wheel, fine. Just don't make one and put it on the market 2 years prior to being so lame that it receives a thumbs down from 8 out of 10 reviewers. Please don't suggest that the RC-50 is a valid & effecient floor controlled looping device. IT'S NOT. By doing this Teddy, you hurt everyone into looping. Get real.
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20: I have two uses now for the looper - one as the 'one man band' deal. My songs are pretty complex - not repeating parts usually and lots of odd measure lengths, so I have to record big chunks and then have areas (usually just one of the loops) where I can just let the looper ramble on until I'm ready to re-enter the structure. Works great. On top of the (three loops of) one guitar part I've laid down I want to add percussion so it can run along with the guitar stuff I do on top. For most of my 'one man band' songs it takes all three of the available loops (RC50) to cover all bases. So my final output would be one base guitar track, one percussion track (most likely djimbe or congas, and the top guitar. 26: I wrote all this in case you're thinking about my previous email about the RC50 not having enough loops.
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 18: Hey Richard,oh ya... if you plug the RC-50 into your computer it just shows up as a hard drive.you can drag the loop audio into an audio editor, normalize, eq... whatever... then just save it back to the RC-50 with the same name and voila, your perfect take is at max volume now.That drive functionality is also great for backing up.Another great thing about the RC-50TeddyOn Jun 13, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Richard Sales wrote:Thanks TeddyYeah... I know I need to do some more homework on it. What I wanna do is be able to have three patches of guitar and then add percussion on new loopable tracks live. I could possibly do that in overdub but it seems, or so far it seems, that controlling the volume in or out of the overdubs is tricky. And some of the guitar patches I have in it I don't wanna have to do over again because they're complex etc. Have you figured out a way to load from storage particular patches from the computer? That's good news on the modeling thing. It never bothered me before but once I got the idea in my head that it was changing the sound of the guitar it bummed me out because I liked the sound so much and didn't wanna lose it should I ever migrate to a different looper. I don't think I'm gonna do that anytime soon. But if I can't find a solution to the inability to loop percussion over existing parts I may have to buy another RC50 or a looperlative or something else. I do like the quantize thing and the ability to punch a track to enter when the existing loop is done. Not sure if looperlative does that. Might have to bite the bullet and get into Ableton. Thanks so much for the info. I'm glad there are smart people out there using these things!richard salesglassWing farm and studiovancouver island, b.c.800.545.6846250.752.4816www.glassWing.comwww.richardsales.comwww.hayleysales.comwww.blueberryfieldsfarm.comOn 13-Jun-07, at 10:59 AM, Teddy wrote: Hi Richard,not enough loops as in not enough drum patterns? or not enough places to save loops?the levels are not hard to control if you set them all at unity and save it as a default patch.I think that is the thing about the RC-50. It's pretty flexible, which can be a problem for some.Once you understand that you'll be setting it up how you like it, then saving a default patch with those settings and always using that as a start patch, I think the thing is pretty darn good.As far as sync, we have some new people chiming in that it works fine if it is the master.I haven't tried it that way as I don't have anything to use with it.So that scenario might be fine.noisy? didn't notice that.can't turn modeling off? you mean like the built in flat amp simulator? that only works on the mic or aux, so it's not an issue with the main guitar input.it doesn't gate quiet passages here. It is flawless in sound quality.TeddyOn Jun 13, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Richard Sales wrote: I don't mind the RC50. But there are issues! (Off the top of my head without thinking about it too much...)1.) not enough loops. I don't like overdubbing because the levels are hard to control. I might have to work on that, though.2.) it does something funny to the sound (I THINK it's the RC50 that's doing it. I need to do a study of it. But I think it gates quiet passages.)3.) I think it's noisy (pretty sure it's the RC 50)4.) If Teddy is right, sync issues, which I haven't tested yet but, when I get around to it, could be fatal5.) The built in modeling can't be turned off unless you're going in mic or aux. The modeling thing might be what causes the gating effect I'm hearing. What bothers me most about the modeling is that if and when I change loopers, the whole picture will change. However, I LOVE the sound I'm getting.The nice thing about not enough loops is it forces economy and sometimes economy forces creativity. And also thinking about structure, if structure is a part of your game. And the guide track has forced me to realize that I write a lot in 5 and 7/4. I would have run into that with the sequencer too, but I've been on an anti sequencer jag for a while now. I would never say it's a big waste of money because it's opened up whole new continents of possibility for me, GIANT continents!) but probably any quality sound looper could have done that. At some point I'm sure I'll graduate to a Looperlative, but I need to really study that. I haven't really done any real tests to see if the sound issues are the RC50 or the gizmos I have in the chain. Whenever I sit down to test it I start playing which always carries me away from the world of rational thinking, testing etc. And that by itself is worth much more than 500 ducks.richard salesOn 13-Jun-07, at 7:59 AM, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: I understand where you're coming from. But in the situation I outlined, it works great. Nobodys time is perfect that the loop is flawless. A drummer playing in time will always drift a little. Even if you are that perfect, you will never hit every loop all night at a gig.But yes, for solo stuff the RC-50 has its issues.
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 18: Well what I want to do is be able to load one patch at a time from the computer TO the RC50. In other words, to have a batch of patches saved to computer, which I've done, and to be able to pick and choose which patches load. Actually I haven't tried it, but when you save files to computer there's no names attached to the sound files or the patches so I don't know how to import individual patches back into the RC50.
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 18: No to fan the flames, but IMHO, the Boomerangs sound quality is very poor compared to the RC-50 so, to me, the Boomerang doesn't even get on the short list (and I wanted to like it-believe me I did).BreachinThePeace@aol.com wrote: Dear Jeff- I don't believe Mr. Killian was attempting to tell you what to say, only offering a different opinion.
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 18: dear Jeff,I did not mean to invalidate your very strong opinion on the RC-50.I happen to disagree with everything you said about it, but I do agree that was released with some shortcomings.Mine is not the only opinion that matters, I value yours too.I just can't stand it when someone comes on a forum of very smart and reasonable people and spouts an opinion in the form of an absolute emotional outburst like you did.It's not helpful to the tone of the discussion.For me, the RC-50 is the only one that does what I need.So, naturally, in the discussion of our tools on this forum, I would like to share that information with others.If that makes you think I am some kind of novice or idiot for using it I don't see that as relevant to the discussion and it is offensive.If you need to release your pent up anger on the group or on a tool of the trade that's equally unproductive and does not add to the discussion.I assume from your previous posts that you'll probably turn this around again and try to make me look like the dick here since I have an opinion about a looper that doesn't go with yours, but I hope I am wrong and we can move on with the discussion without so much heat. It's just looping after all... why get so upset about it?Thanks,Teddy (not Killian)On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:41 AM, BreachinThePeace@aol.com wrote: Dear Jeff- I don't believe Mr. Killian was attempting to tell you what to say, only offering a different opinion. Just so people searching the web for looping tool ideas don't get the wrong idea about the RC-50 from an obviously hot headed and out of control person... The RC-50 is a totally different animal from the Boomerang,(<---BS Alert) which is a great looper for sure.<----(opinion alert, but don't dare speak your convictions or you too could be the next "hot headed and out of control person termed a "dick") I don't know if you actually tried one in real life but... (yep, I own one, a repeater, a boomerang, etc) for me... it's a pretty good solution to how I want to loop funky bits and have a drummer play along with me. I use the guide extensively as a way for my drummer to have a click track so my loops don't have to act as one. there's nothing less funky than having one of your loops be stiff so the drummer can follow it. with the guide I can play as swampy and slinky as I want to and the drummer still has something stiff to follow so the whole band sounds right. I use other loopers for pitch/reverse/ambient stuff. the RC-50 is just a great collector of things to loop and turn on and off. If you don't like it, don't buy it. too late. I simply could not believe the ineptitude of the device's obvious premature release. In short, it sucks when it comes to a FLOOR CONTROLLED LOOPER which it and the Boomerang both most certainly are. but don't come on here and spout hateful propoganda like this.<---someone needs to learn what PROPAGANDA means, me thinks. Sure sounds like a pompous "tell me what to say" statement to me. different loopers work in different situations. period.<--obviously you have a PHD in looping. I am in way over my head here.lol! get used to it. <----I think you just need to get used to the fact that your's is NOT the only opinion that matters pal. the RC-50 is a great looper for a certain way of looping. Teddy
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200706/msg00559:Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs?
3: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 10: Subject: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 18: Hello, I do apologise if this has already been coverered (I checked and couldn't find anything on the archive) but does anyone know if it's possible to plug a guitar and a mic into the RC50 and have them come out of two separate outputs? I'm a singer/acoustic performer and I'm currently using a Headrush E2 for guitar and a Boss RC20xl for vocals. I'd love to be able to sync loops using mic/guitar and the RC50 sounds great. At the moment it's impossible using two separate units. But it would probably cause problems if the guitar/vox couldn't go to two separate places because I'd be in control of the overall balance rather than the sound guy - probably not sensible! Really grateful for anyone's advice... Sorry that this is more of a question than discussion topic, by the way...
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200706/msg00562:Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs?
3: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 31: > possible to plug a guitar and a mic into the RC50 and have them
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200706/msg00563:Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs?
3: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 18: it's easy, just read the manual. You can assign all inputs to MAIN, SUB or MAIN & SUB outputs'Teddy <teddybutter@mac.com> wrote: yes, definitelyTeddyOn Jun 15, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Stuart Masters wrote:> Hello,>> I do apologise if this has already been coverered (I checked and > couldn't find anything on the archive) but does anyone know if it's > possible to plug a guitar and a mic into the RC50 and have them > come out of two separate outputs?>> I'm a singer/acoustic performer and I'm currently using a Headrush > E2 for guitar and a Boss RC20xl for vocals. I'd love to be able to > sync loops using mic/guitar and the RC50 sounds great. At the > moment it's impossible using two separate units.>> But it would probably cause
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200706/msg00564:Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs?
3: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 22: yes, definitelyTeddyOn Jun 15, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Stuart Masters wrote:> Hello,>> I do apologise if this has already been coverered (I checked and > couldn't find anything on the archive) but does anyone know if it's > possible to plug a guitar and a mic into the RC50 and have them > come out of two separate outputs?>> I'm a singer/acoustic performer and I'm currently using a Headrush > E2 for guitar and a Boss RC20xl for vocals. I'd love to be able to > sync loops using mic/guitar and the RC50 sounds great. At the > moment it's impossible using two separate units.>> But it would probably cause problems if the guitar/vox couldn't go > to two separate places because I'd be in control of the overall > balance rather than the sound guy - probably not sensi
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200706/msg00566:Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs?
3: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 19: <teddybutter@mac.com> wrote: yes, definitelyTeddyOn Jun 15, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Stuart Masters wrote:> Hello,>> I do apologise if this has already been coverered (I checked and > couldn't find anything on the archive) but does anyone know if it's > possible to plug a guitar and a mic into the RC50 and have them > come out of two separate outputs?>> I'm a singer/acoustic performer and I'm currently using a Headrush > E2 for guitar and a Boss RC20xl for vocals. I'd love to be able to > sync loops using mic/guitar and the RC50 sounds great. At the > moment it's impossible using two separate units.>> But it would probably cause problems if the guitar/vox couldn't go > to two separate places because I'd be in control of the overall >
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200706/msg00578:Re: Trouble Thinking of Loops Beyond the Initial Loop
22: > backing) with my RC-50. But, I can't seem to develop a corresponding
200706/msg00581:Re: Trouble Thinking of Loops Beyond the Initial Loop
32: I keep coming up with pretty good/interesting loops (guitar and drum backing) with my RC-50. But, I can't seem to develop a corresponding "verse" to the initial loop structure (following a somewhat standard song structure).
200706/msg00583:Re: Trouble Thinking of Loops Beyond the Initial Loop
43: > >> backing) with my RC-50. But, I can't seem to develop a corresponding
200706/msg00590:Re: Trouble Thinking of Loops Beyond the Initial Loop
59: backing) with my RC-50. But, I can't seem to develop a corresponding
200706/msg00598:New User: MIDI software looper in Receptor???
25: RC-50. I am a drummer and use looping while playing my Zendrum (Midi drum
3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 43: > 10 reviewers. Please don't suggest that the RC-50 is
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 53: > > 10 reviewers. Please don't suggest that the RC-50 is
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3: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 10: Subject: Re: I now "get" the RC-50. 19: new wheel, fine. Just don't make> one and put it on the market 2 years prior to being> so lame that it receives a thumbs down from 8 out of> 10 reviewers. Please don't suggest that the RC-50 is> a valid & effecient floor controlled looping device.> IT'S NOT. By doing this Teddy, you hurt everyone> into looping. Get real. > > Jeff > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. ___________________________________________________________________________________You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheckin the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html
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200706/msg00694:Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs?
3: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 18: Thanks, guys, that's really useful. Does anyone know if you can have both guitar and vox running through the RC50 but loop them individually? Say, if you wanted to loop a vocal but play guitar underneath and not loop guitar... or loop your guitar while singing but not loop your voice... I've phoned around and find this out anywhere! Marc Marshall <agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com> wrote: I love the feature. I can run my guitar into it and send it to my Mesa Boogie amp and run a mike into it, and run it into the PA. I aslo should mention you can assign pan for each track as well as assign the output location. It works great in the effects loop of my studio mixer as I can loop anything connected to the mixer.
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200706/msg00696:Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs?
3: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 - two inputs and two outputs? 18: I use an A/B box to do that. My gtr into the A/B, one side goes to the looper, one side goes right to the amp.then I can decide if I am including the gtr in the loop. You could also program the RC-50 to mute the inputs, depending on what you want to do, but I think that's not as flexible as an A/B box.TeddyOn Jun 18, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Stuart Masters wrote:Thanks, guys, that's really useful. Does anyone know if you can have both guitar and vox running through the RC50 but loop them individually? Say, if you wanted to loop a vocal but play guitar underneath and not loop guitar... or loop your guitar while singing but not loop your voice... I've phoned around and find this out anywhere! Marc Marshall <agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com> wrote: I love the feature. I can run my guitar into it and send it to my Mesa Boogie amp and run a mike into it, and run it into the PA. I aslo should mention you can assign pan for each track as well as assign the output location. It works great in the effects loop of my studio mixer as I can loop anything connected to the mixer. midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: I thought that feature was a useless bell. Or was it a whistle. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Marc Marshall <agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com> it's easy, just read the manual. You can assign all inputs to MAIN, SUB or MAIN & SUB outputs'Teddy <teddybutter@mac.com> wrote: yes, definitelyTeddyOn Jun 15, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Stuart Masters wrote:> Hello,>> I do apologise if this has already been coverered (I checked and > couldn't find anything on the archive) but does anyone know if it's > possible to plug a guitar and a mic into the RC50 and have them > come out of two separate outputs?>> I'm a singer/acoustic performer and I'm currently using a Headrush > E2 for guitar and a Boss RC20xl for vocals. I'd love to be able to > sync loops using mic/guitar and the RC50 sounds great. At the > moment it's impossible using two separate units.>> But it would probably cause problems if the guitar/vox couldn't go > to two separate places because I'd be in control of the overall > balance rather than the sound guy - probably not sensi ble!>> Really grateful for anyone's advice... Sorry that this is more of a > question than discussion topic, by the way...>> Stuart
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19: pedal? I am sure there are many different preferences but if you would take the time to tell me your favorite looping pedal/device and why it is your favorite I would greatly appreciate it. I know that each pedal is listed in "tools of the trade" and most of them have comments. But if any one would like to help me out that would be great. Especially between a Boss RC-50 and a Gibson Echoplex. I want to use the best tool suitable for me thanks alot jason
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19: phrases and use that as a foundation for the whole song adding to that stack of (four) and then taking it all away at once then adding something new etc I want something that can keep up with the human imagination but in real time. I want to stack alot of phrases in some songs and in others 3 to 4. I don't really have a realistic idea of how long my loops are but it would be nice to have to room if needed. and that is why I was thinking about the Boss RC-50 with three phrase pedals but it has all those extras that just seem 24: any one would like to help me out that would be great. Especially between a Boss RC-50 and a Gibson Echoplex. I want to use the best tool suitable for me thanks alot jason
200706/msg00760:Re: Quick live looper feedback please
19: On the right track. My advice, get an RC50, import better sounding drum 21: sound like, well, rythm guides. With the RC50 you can import real drums
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18: Thanks for the kind words. I use an Ibanez SA series guitar and a boss rc-20xl loop pedal. So far my drums are just the steady kick drum from the guide until I can afford to upgrade to rc-50. I use the bass effect i created on my effects processor, and I switch between clean,dirty and bass while i create the loop.David Small <dsmall@uh.edu> wrote: Ray: Great stuff. High energy and a roots-like, traditional blues sound. And fresh at the same time. Lyrics really grab the listener. Did you write all these songs? Guessing that you got the rhythm and lead tones from the same guitar -- both are spot-on. Do you bi-amp? What kind of guitar and drum machine? Keep making this wonderful music. Your audience is going to grow and grow. Thanks for sharing. David Houston, Texas At 02:32
200706/msg00798:RC50 Question about Expression and Controller Sharing
3: RC50 Question about Expression and Controller Sharing 10: Subject: RC50 Question about Expression and Controller Sharing 19: I have a question for fellow RC50 users out there regarding the "EXP/Ctrl
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3: Re: RC50 Question about Expression and Controller Sharing 10: Subject: Re: RC50 Question about Expression and Controller Sharing 30: > I have a question for fellow RC50 users out there regarding the
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3: Re: RC50 Question about Expression and Controller Sharing 10: Subject: Re: RC50 Question about Expression and Controller Sharing 35: > > I have a question for fellow RC50 users out there regarding the
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200706/msg01080:Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang - Rang III (?)
39: Why is everyone complaining about the RC50? Because they want to
200706/msg01086:Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang - Rang III (?)
29: Why is everyone complaining about the RC50? Because they want to 40: Thanks for the reply Ben. I really like the quality of the RC50, I just 54: I am not sure how anyone can honestly be satisfied with the RC50. To me all 55: this justification of the RC50 seems like a grand effort to polish a turd.
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19: Nice sermon but, the original Boomerang sucks more than the RC-50. The 21: bought one years ago). The RC-50 is much more usable than the Booms as 35: > Why is everyone complaining about the RC50? Because they want to access 50: > Thanks for the reply Ben. I really like the quality of the RC50, I just
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22: > I really like the quality of the RC50, I just 28: loudly proclaimed that the RC-50 "speaks sync". However it doesn't 36: > I am not sure how anyone can honestly be satisfied with the RC50. 38: I cannot honesty say that I am satisfied with the RC50 because of the
200706/msg01095:Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50
3: Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50 10: Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50 19: I've actually enjoyed my recent re-introduction with the RC-50. I've discovered several workarounds and outright solutions to several issues that I feel have made me a better looper. I was like you, I hated it and was going to sell it, but for the very specific situation Im using it for, its perfect.
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200706/msg01096:Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50
3: Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50 10: Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50 21: > I've actually enjoyed my recent re-introduction with the RC-50. ...
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200706/msg01097:Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50
3: Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50 10: Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Boomerang Vs. RC50 21: -------------- Original message -------------- From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > Quoting midifriedchicken@comcast.net: > > > I've actually enjoyed my recent re-introduction with the RC-50. ... > > I also have heard form a very reliable source, that there will be a > > firmware update this summer that will fix several issues. > > > > MFC > > Great news! Look forward to getting this update. If the RC-50 syncs > and works smoothly, it will be an awesome loop station. > > -- Kevin >
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3: rc50 looping on youtube 10: Subject: rc50 looping on youtube
3: Boss RC50 loopstation 10: Subject: Boss RC50 loopstation 18: Hi, probably a stupid quesition but does anyone have experience with the Boss RC50? I've been thinking of getting one for a while now but I can't work out how independent your inputs can be when using it as a live looper. If you're putting a guitar and a mic through it and you're looping the guitar, does it have to pick up whatever is coming through the mic (if there was crowd noise, for example...)? Presumably that way you'd lose a lot of sound quality. Equally, I wouldn't want to have to mute the mic when looping guitar in case I wanted to sing over the top of the loop afterwards (or add percussion via the mic). I'm confused. I'm thinking that the only solution, if you want to be able to control mic and guitar loops independently, is to have two separate units... but then you can't sync your live loops. If anyone can tell me otherwise, I'll go and buy the thing right now. I've gone cross-eyed just trying to work this thing
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3: Re: Boss RC50 loopstation 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 loopstation 21: >the Boss RC50? I've been thinking of getting one for a while now but
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3: Re: Boss RC50 loopstation 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 loopstation 18: Yeah, could do I suppose! David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote: At 2:09 PM +0100 7/2/07, Stuart Masters wrote:>Hi, probably a stupid quesition but does anyone have experience with >the Boss RC50? I've been thinking of getting one for a while now but >I can't work out how independent your inputs can be when using it as >a live looper.>>If you're putting a guitar and a mic through it and you're looping >the guitar, does it have to pick up whatever is coming through the >mic (if there was crowd noise, for example...)? Presumably that way >you'd lose a lot of sound quality. Equally, I wouldn't want to have >to mute the mic when looping guitar in case I wanted to sing over >the top of the loop afterwards (or add percussion via the mic).How about a microphone with an
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3: Re: Boss RC50 loopstation 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 loopstation 20: If you want to selectivly send mic or guitar signals, put the rc50 into an effect loop in a mixer. Turn up the send to the RC50 from the mic whenever you need it. Be sure the loop out is set to sub. Works great.
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200707/msg00054:Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer
3: Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer 10: Subject: Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer 18: Any of guys using the RC50 as an Aux loop on a mixer for additional looping capabilities?I'm short a few inputs and am trying to do this, but can't seem to get the levels on the send/returns right.Anybody have any recommendations?
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200707/msg00055:Re: Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer
3: Re: Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer 10: Subject: Re: Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer 21: > Any of guys using the RC50 as an Aux loop on a mixer for additional
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200707/msg00056:Re: Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer
3: Re: Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer 10: Subject: Re: Using RC50 as an AUX Loop on a Mixer 24: "0" The output of the RC50 is to channel 2.
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22: See, we RC50 users are all over that shit.
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29: because you use the Boomerang. See, we RC50 users are all over that shit. 33: Boomerang. I do use the RC50 when not relying Mobius. I just think it 34: (RC50) was a majorly poor planed & premature commercial 42: school musical instrument toting knuckle draggers like myself, the RC50 has
200707/msg00309:RC-50, un undiscovered treasure....
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200707/msg00321:Re:RC-50, un undiscovered treasure....
3: Re:RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re:RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 29: Check out these 6 RC-50 support documents from Roland US
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3: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 19: An Imported wave file. I spent last night playing with Stylus RMX and the RC50. I was having so much fun I forgot the allstar game was on.
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3: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 28: Imported wave file. I spent last night playing with Stylus RMX and the RC50. I
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3: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 18: instead of relying on the internal guide track, and not having a computer at home to import files, I use the wonderfully affordable Alesis SR-16 drum machine. Syncs right up. my 2 centsBreachinThePeace@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/11/2007 10:23:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, midifriedchicken@comcast.net writes: An Imported wave file. I spent last night playing with Stylus RMX and the RC50. I was having so much fun I forgot the allstar game was on. This sounds very
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3: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 29: An Imported wave file. I spent last night playing with Stylus RMX and the RC50. I was having so much fun I forgot the allstar game was on.
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3: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 18: yeah, it seems the general consensus is that the RC50 works better as the master. I have no problem with it that way. My Yamaha RM1-X also syncs up fine with it. The help desk at Roland recommends that you hoop it up only as a master with the (IMHO) cop out that the RC-50 is NOT a sequencer. It still is a great piece of gear for the money. midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: So the RC 50 slaves to that OK? Ive tried to use Ableton Live as a master and have had mixed results. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Marc Marshall <agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com> instead of relying on the internal guide track, and not having
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3: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 29: > and the RC50. I was having so much fun I forgot the allstar game
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3: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 41: With the RC-50 stopped, select Phrase 1 for recording by pressing its
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3: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50, un undiscovered treasure.... 49: > With the RC-50 stopped, select Phrase 1 for recording by pressing its
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19: clock source. Did they fix that in 2.0.1?The Looperlative and the 2880 both actually look rather similar vis-a- vis this feature set (though the Looperlative is obviously bigger at 8 tracks, supports non-synchronized tracks, has lots of MIDI support, etc), but they neither multiply nor support threshold recording from what I can tell.My understanding is that the RC-50 lacks feedback control. Is that correct?Am I missing any cases? Have I mischaracterized anything?This all comes up because I've been finding new joy in my HandSonic and my MachineDrum using the former to control the latter and building up loops in a single EDP. But I really wish it was stereo and I really would like to set one stereo pair to playing a steady pulse while jamming in another stereo pair with feedback set fairly low.Any suggestions? Do I just need to ditch all of this hardware and go to a computer-based
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3: RC-50 Sync Issues... 10: Subject: RC-50 Sync Issues... 22: not being alone having rc-50 sync issues. I have talked to some higher
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3: Re: RC-50 Sync Issues... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Sync Issues... 30: -------------- Original message -------------- From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> > Hey Chris, > Thats wonderful i am not a RC-50 user but i am still > contemplating it and reading every mail of you users > if all of those issues are solved(feedback,sync,etc.)i > will probably be buying one just for the simple fact > that is midi,stereo,multitracik looper,drum machine > and portability.Just curious what improvements have > you requested so far? > cheers > Luis > > > > > --- Teddy wrote: > > > Hey Chris, > > > > I tried the same thing months ago to no avail. > > Hopefully you'll have better perseverance than I. > > I got sick of trying... mostly because I figured out > > other ways of <
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3: OT RC-50 Wish list was RC-50 Sync Issues... 10: Subject: OT RC-50 Wish list was RC-50 Sync Issues...
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3: RE: RC-50 Sync Issues... 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 Sync Issues... 19: My priority list regarding the RC-50 "issues":
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3: Re: RC-50 Sync Issues... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Sync Issues... 23: I have not been able to sync the RC-50 to anything. It just does not
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3: Re: RC-50 Sync Issues... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Sync Issues... 20: The RC50 works well as the master. I've had good results syncing to a Yamaha DD55 as well as a few assorted delays.
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3: RC-50 Question 10: Subject: RC-50 Question 20: I've just watched a couple of the video demos of the RC-50 on Boss's
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3: Re: RC-50 Sync Issues... 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Sync Issues... 20: Yes, Syncing the DD55 to the RC50.
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3: Re: RC-50 Question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Question 21: -------------- Original message -------------- From: Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu> > > I've just watched a couple of the video demos of the RC-50 on Boss's > web site. In multi mode, Paul Hanson loads a drum loop as one phrase, > and then he has a guitar loop on another phrase (both of these are > called up within the same preset, I believe). My question is where > are these loops coming from? Are they something he has pre-recorded > on his computer, for example, and he has imported them as wav (??) > files into the RC-50? > > Let's say I want to have a bass part as one phrase, a drum loop as > another phrase, and a rhythm guitar part as another phrase, and I > simply want to play over all of the above. Can I compose the bass and > drum parts using a VI and then import them into
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200707/msg00656:RC-50: (6 "channels" on 3 loops possible...)
3: RC-50: (6 "channels" on 3 loops possible...) 10: Subject: RC-50: (6 "channels" on 3 loops possible...) 19: I know I'm a bit late on this,but just a few RC-50 comments:
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19: What? Huh? Look, most of us just want to Sync a fucking RC50 to something
28: What? Huh? Look, most of us just want to Sync a fucking RC50 to something
34: > What? Huh? Look, most of us just want to Sync a fucking RC50 to something
39: What? Huh? Look, most of us just want to Sync a fucking RC50 to something and make funny noises. Your getting way to cerebrel. Lets bring it down a few notches. K?
62: > > What? Huh? Look, most of us just want to Sync a fucking RC50 to
18: what would be the most powerfull loop set up for a 10,000 spending limit?...what units work best together?forgett the rc50(maybe just one for kicks)...would it be best to use a powerfull machine like a looperlative/ edp in isolation...or...with a smorgasborg of other less powerfull loopers?should i buy one or two of everything on the market and figure it out for myself(most likely)...ease of set up is a high priority as im lazy and repulsed by clutter...
53: limit?...what units work best together?forgett the rc50(maybe just one for
47: limit?...what units work best together?forgett the rc50(maybe just one for
200707/msg00774:minimizing gear with-laptop or floor harware?
40: floor efx and something like the boss RC-50 it has a
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26: > efx and something like the boss RC-50 it has a looper,simple 56: with the RC50's internal drums (and with its looping if you're coming from 58: RC50 (which would then only affect guitar) and one after the RC50? Or
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53: > with the RC50's internal drums (and with its looping 57: > RC50 (which would then only affect guitar) and one 58: > after the RC50? Or 66: before the RC-50,and for my voice efx ill use
200707/msg00794:Re: AW: minimizing gear with-laptop or floor harware?
19: The drum sounds in the RC50 do indeed suck. I drop wav files created in Stylus into it. These range from basic percussion to more advanced parts. The loop is then defined by the length of the wav file. This does away with the split second of silence you get when going from record to play on the RC. You do give up a certian amount of freedom, but you can store a bunch of patches with preset lengths, 1 bar, 2 bars etc. and use them as needed. This also really helps when playing with other musicians. The loops are locked in and drummers wont drift. Yet it still feels natural. 28: -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> > > > > getting a laptop to replace my,edps,and mpc1000 sampler with > > mobius and (x?) software to replace the MPC1000(please > > recomend me something similar),though i would still have to > > have a mixer and soundcard. > > or going all floor harware,no racks or mixer by using floor > > efx and something like the boss RC-50 it has a looper,simple > > drum loops, guitar and mic in,and stereo outs straight into > > the 2 speakers.Now since i havent use any of these 2 > > variables which in your opinion would be more > > reliable,advantages,drawbacks? > > Option "Laptop plus": > Using Mobius will give you all the (looping) power you have now, only times > sixteen and script language and...note that there are some s 30: doubt that you'll be happy > with the RC50's internal drums (and with its looping if you're coming from > the EDP for that matter). Which effects were you looking at? One before the > RC50 (which would then only affect guitar) and one after the RC50? Or > something else? You see, flexibility of routing is greatly reduced here... > > Advantages: you could just mount everything onto a wooden board with two > cables going in on one side and two cables coming out on the other side and > a power strip at the top. Setup essentially boils down to putting the thing > onto the floor and connecting five cables. > > Rainer >
200707/msg00810:Re: AW: minimizing gear with-laptop or floor harware?
71: > The drum sounds in the RC50 do indeed suck. I drop
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86: >> The drum sounds in the RC50 do indeed suck. I drop
18: Ok, hey guys. Brand new to the site and getting a new loop machine. I don't need much. I am just curious what I would need to be able to create live vocal loops and also be able to record them in real time. I am a singer and beat boxer. Right now I am looking at the boss RC-50 (is there a loop machine more appropriate for non instrumental loopers?) and a microphone.
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18: can't help you with the mics, but for what you are talking about, the RC-50 is just too much everything(price and capability). As a guitarist, I play with an RC-20XL and thats more than enough for what you are talking about. 24: Ok, hey guys. Brand new to the site and getting a new loop machine. I don't need much. I am just curious what I would need to be able to create live vocal loops and also be able to record them in real time. I am a singer and beat boxer. Right now I am looking at the boss RC-50 (is there a loop machine more appropriate for non instrumental loopers?) and a microphone.
200708/msg00144:Re: New to this and need set up help
19: I love the RC50. Its stereo, plus there are multiple outs. But, you can 22: sample would be very handy. The RC50 gets no respect around here. But once 30: >RC-50 46: > > and beat boxer. Right now I am looking at the boss RC-50 (is there a
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18: actaully i think i meant the rc-20xl. Thanks. I too cannot afford the rc-50.On 8/7/07, Matthew Johnson <matthjohnson@gmail.com 19: > wrote:can't help you with the mics, but for what you are talking about, the RC-50 is just too much everything(price and capability). As a guitarist, I play with an RC-20XL and thats more than enough for what you are talking about. 26: Ok, hey guys. Brand new to the site and getting a new loop machine. I don't need much. I am just curious what I would need to be able to create live vocal loops and also be able to record them in real time. I am a singer and beat boxer. Right now I am looking at the boss RC-50 (is there a loop machine more appropriate for non instrumental loopers?) and a microphone.
200708/msg00148:Re: New to this and need set up help
23: > the rc-50. 25: Just fyi, the best price I've seen on the rc-50 is from Full Compass.
31: > the rc-50.>Just fyi, the best price I've seen on the rc-50 is from Full Compass.I believe I paid $398. Most places sell it for $499.Jeff
35: > the rc-50.>Just fyi, the best price I've seen on the rc-50 is from Full Compass.I believe I paid $398. Most places sell it for $499.Jeff
141: > the rc-50. 143: Just fyi, the best price I've seen on the rc-50 is from Full Compass.
203: > the rc-50. 205: Just fyi, the best price I've seen on the rc-50 is from Full Compass.
200708/msg00197:Re: New to this and need set up help
21: >The RC50 gets no respect around here. But once you really learn it, the
200708/msg00203:Re: New to this and need set up help
20: Hi MidiFriedChicken>The RC50 gets no respect around here. But once you really learn it, the stability, ease of use and rugged build are worth the extra scratch.I second that :-))As a true beginner to looping, I might also start off with an RC-2.
200708/msg00204:Re: New to this and need set up help
33: Hi MidiFriedChicken>The RC50 gets no respect around here. But once you really learn it, the stability, ease of use and rugged build are worth the extra scratch.
200708/msg00207:Re: New to this and need set up help
37: Hi MidiFriedChicken>The RC50 gets no respect around here. But once you really learn it, the stability, ease of use and rugged build are worth the extra scratch.
200708/msg00217:Re: New to this and need set up help
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200708/msg00306:RC-50 sync work around, and Roland communique' update
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200708/msg00578:Anyone want to buy an RC-20 (not RC-20XL) in near-mint condition?
19: I have a Boss RC-20 that I haven't used since I got an RC-50 :-) Please
200708/msg00607:just a fun video of basic looping w/RC-50
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20: is exactly what I do with the rc-50. I do a short rhythmic phrase and 28: The rc-50 might be worth another look... but then again if the rang
19: Yeah, that said, Im jumping in. I've discovered Bidule and am using Sooperlooper (the dumbest name ever) with very good results. I still get the occasional cpu fart noise, but the flexibility is astounding. For real basic gigs in confined areas and backup Im keeping the RC50, but as I learn the Bidule environment, I'm sure I'll use hardware loopers less and less.
22: I'm guessing in the Ambient genre its easier to hide the limitations because a lot of the sounds you would use are actually similer to the glitchy clicks I was getting. Plus the latency is easier to hide with all those delays. But for now, its back to the RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live and SL are great for the electronica gig I have. I just wish Live had the routing flexibilty that Bidule has.
36: > RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live and SL are great for the
22: en I can > > get a faster machine I'll go back. > > I'm guessing in the Ambient genre its easier to hide the > > limitations because a lot of the sounds you would use are actually > > similer to the glitchy clicks I was getting. Plus the latency is > > easier to hide with all those delays. But for now, its back to the > > RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live and SL are great for the > > electronica gig I have. I just wish Live had the routing flexibilty > > that Bidule has. > > > Your hints are interesting and suggest option to learn something > useful. Would you mind posting the reason why you think Bidule is the > bad guy? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > >
59: > > > RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live and SL are great for the
23: t; > > interface. But all that did was increase latency beyond playable > > > > levels. > > > > My laptop looping experiment has failed miserably. Maybe wh en > > I can > > > > get a faster machine I'll go back. > > > > I'm guessing in the Ambient genre its easier to hide the > > > > limitations because a lot of the sounds you would use are actually > > > > similer to the glitchy clicks I was getting. Plus the latency is > > > > easier to hide with all those delays. But for now, its back to the > > > > RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live and SL are great for the > > > > electronica gig I have. I just wish Live had the routing > > flexibilty > > > > that Bidule has. > > > > > > > > > Your hints are interesting and suggest option to learn something > > >
89: all those delays. But for now, its back to the RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live
38: I'm guessing in the Ambient genre its easier to hide the limitations because a lot of the sounds you would use are actually similer to the glitchy clicks I was getting. Plus the latency is easier to hide with all those delays. But for now, its back to the RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live and SL are great for the electronica gig I have. I just wish Live had the routing flexibilty that Bidule has.
145: all those delays. But for now, its back to the RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live
26: I can do all this also with my Boss RC-50:
200708/msg00874:Re: RC-2 demo songs & how to access them?
200708/msg00875:RC-2 : First impressions / comparison RC-50
3: RC-2 : First impressions / comparison RC-50 10: Subject: RC-2 : First impressions / comparison RC-50 22: also have the RC-50, this is especially with a comparison in mind.
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65: > all those delays. But for now, its back to the RC50 for my acoustic
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200708/msg00911:Re: RC-2 : First impressions / comparison RC-50
3: Re: RC-2 : First impressions / comparison RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-2 : First impressions / comparison RC-50 18: So first of all, I think Buzap should get hired by Roland to demo these pedals, not to mention be a consultant. Not to say that I'm not entertained by Rico Loop. : )I also have both the RC-50 and RC-2. I've found good use for both. I am very interested in the new Boomerang, as I understand it will also have the sub-out/aux-out feature to send a loop only signal which the RC-50 has. I've found that invaluable when working with other players...sending that signal to the drummer so they can lock into that alone.You know what I like best about the RC-2? The most basic, simple feature- How smooth is attack and release of the loop itself. With the RC-2, I've found it seemless and much more efficient than the RC-50, and yes, I've done the upgrade. I still like the Rc-50, but on some basic level, I don't have the confidence with that first loop that I have with the RC-2. The action of the later is more like the Behringer midi pedal that I use with the Echoplex.And, I have found the extra pedal to stop and erase to be very useful myself.Again, Buzap, thanks for your detailed feedback.John Floridis=
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89: > > all those delays. But for now, its back to the RC50 for my acoustic
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107: >>>all those delays. But for now, its back to the RC50 for my acoustic
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78: >> RC50 for my acoustic stuff. Live and SL are great for the
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114: >>> all those delays. But for now, its back to the RC50 for my acoustic
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200708/msg00988:Re: a few questoins about the rc20
30: isolate that loop only signal was a big reason I now use the RC50,
3: rc-50 v competitors 10: Subject: rc-50 v competitors 19: The RC-50 seems to have everything i want (mic hookup, multiple phases
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20: RC-50 and be done with it, but the rc-2 and a preamp will have to do
3: Re: rc-50 v competitors 10: Subject: Re: rc-50 v competitors 22: > The RC-50 seems to have everything i want (mic hookup, multiple
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200708/msg01221:Re: RC-2 : First impressions (RC-2 vs. RC20XL)
22: I have already an RC-50 if I need all the features (i.e. Reverse). All I 29: you need. And I would really take a look at the RC-50. It's really not
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200709/msg00174:looking to buy an rc-50 or rc-2 (spam)
3: looking to buy an rc-50 or rc-2 (spam) 10: Subject: looking to buy an rc-50 or rc-2 (spam) 19: Anyone got a used one they want to part with? the Rc-50 is probably out
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200709/msg00178:Re: RC-2, Busking Gig this Morning
200709/msg00296:Re: looking to buy an rc-50 or rc-2 (spam)
3: Re: looking to buy an rc-50 or rc-2 (spam) 10: Subject: Re: looking to buy an rc-50 or rc-2 (spam) 18: Not sure if you've gotten enough offers and what I have is in the middle of what you asked for, but I have an RC-20 that I'd be willing to part with...ted.Joshua Rothhaas <joshua.mr@gmail.com> wrote: Anyone got a used one they want to part with? the Rc-50 is probably out of my price range, but if you want to chat you can see my direct email or aim: Themaminjaministsorry for the spam"Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard
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19: Can computer speakers be used as an amp with the RC-50?
21: > Can computer speakers be used as an amp with the RC-50? 23: The RC-50 produces a line-level output -- if you are referring to 24: active (powered) speakers, then you could use them with an RC-50. 26: The RC-50's headphone output has sufficient power to drive headphones
21: RC-50. It was a lot more fun than the demos I found on the web.
3: rc50 fade question 10: Subject: rc50 fade question 19: Greetings. Picked up an RC50 and was glad to see that: 1) you can
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200709/msg00580:Rico Loop's performance in BarcelonaBB
21: RC-50. It was a lot more fun than the demos I found on the web.
200709/msg00705:Re: AW: Quasi Digital/Analog Modular Looper?
53: accomplish this on something as "basic" as an RC50. You would record 56: so to speak. (The RC50 can quantize to the nearest measure, so you
200709/msg00713:Re: FCB1010 / Soft Case Foot Controller by SKB Cases
23: estate on the floor. Combined with an RC50 and just a few others,
18: I'll be playing solo (guitar/ looping) at the opening reception for artist Alok Hsu Kwang-Han Fri. Sept. 21th. @ "Studio 910", 910 Santa Fe Drive, Denver, Colorado 80204 (303) 815 1779. 6 - 9:30pm.<>"For Alok Hsu Kwang-han, two streams flow: one from the East, one from the West. They merge in what he has come to call “The Creativity of Non-doing”. Creativity comes in on its own. It happens as you give up trying to be creative. Alok Hsu Kwang-han is an internationally acclaimed and highly original Zen calligraphic painter from China. His work is a startling new synthesis of the beauty of Chinese calligraphy, the spontaneity of Zen, and the evolution of Western Psychotherapy. His paintings are not only unusual and striking in their beauty, they also convey an invitation for us to enter." http://www.zencalligraphy.com/ <>It'll be my first outing with the RC50, no processing, and playing acoustically (acoustic archtop w/ Schertler pickup - vol. pedal - RC50 - amp) - should be interesting.- Paul << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch/ >>
200709/msg00842:Re: AW: Quasi Digital/Analog Modular Looper?
28: > actually accomplish this on something as "basic" as an RC50. You 31: > -- just a placeholder, so to speak. (The RC50 can quantize to the
200709/msg00852:Re: AW: Quasi Digital/Analog Modular Looper?
27: Except that the RC-50 cannot create a loop shorter than one second long. 29: The RC-50 isn't adept at syncing up to external devices and I used it
200709/msg01050:looping different instruments and voice
26: Jamman, or the new Boss RC-50. 34: And can the RC-50 loop itself, like the second track looping a part
18: Stephen;Aside from the issue of not being able to see the LED's in the sunlight, beware that you may experience a shutdown due to heat build up in the pedals. I had both my DD20 and RC20xl shut down when playing in the sun even though it was a cool day. You can tell it's about to happen when the LED on the DD20 starts going all black. Both pedals recovered when cooled down and work fine (though I've since moved to using an RC50 for looping and haven't put the DD20 and 20xl through any hard testing to see if the heat caused any long lasting damage - ie: are they more susceptible to heat now????).- Paul <<http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch/ >>On Sep 30, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Stephen Scott wrote:Here's a thing. Did a lovely open air gig today at Will Gile's Exotic Garden in Norwich, great fun, played a good set.BUTI was set up on the balcony of the house, spouting out my sounds across the lovely garden, it never occurred that when the sun came out, I wouldn't be able to see any of my LEDs on my RC20, soundbite sampler or guitar FX. Big problem, had to try to create shades while playing. I usually have the opposite problem, and often need to set up a little light so I can see the controls.... and the cats! At one point I had two moggies climbing between my legs and across my pedal board, and one perched atop the mixer.Playing there again next Sunday; must pack sunshade (but will this encourage rain?) and pepper spray.Stephenwww.myspace.com/sylvianfisher Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos.
200710/msg00127:Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper
46: I can't really do that with my RC-50 + RC-2. You can't really stop and 51: More or less useless on RC-50 (might work if you only have percussion).
200710/msg00131:Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper
24: Let's look at these advices from the RC50 perpective: 34: Just figured out, that I can do that also in SINGLE MODE on the RC50, by
200710/msg00135:Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper
37: Let's look at these advices from the RC50 perpective: 47: Just figured out, that I can do that also in SINGLE MODE on the RC50, by
200710/msg00140:Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper
46: On the RC-50 I would work it like this (forgot to deactivate TEMPO SYNC in
200710/msg00143:Re: How many loopers does Boss sell?
200710/msg00144:Re: How many loopers does Boss sell?
200710/msg00149:Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper
78: > On the RC-50 I would work it like this (forgot to deactivate TEMPO
200710/msg00188:Re: How many loopers does Boss sell?
20: I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be more of an ensemble device. For instance, I occasionally perform with a bassist and drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer can play in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get some impressive jams that sound way more interesting then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do this, at least not without a laptop. So, it may not be your cup of tea, but it works great for some people.
200710/msg00223:Re: How many loopers does Boss sell?
18: >>>>I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be more of an ensemble device. For instance, I occasionally perform with a bassist and drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer can play in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get some impressive jams that sound way more interesting then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do this, at least not without a laptop. So, it may not be your cup of tea, but it works great for some people.<<<<That's great that it works for you, and that you've found a feature that works. Seriously, that's great. However, within those flaws are way way way too many things missing or poorly implemented for them to get away with calling it the 'Ultimate Looper'. The LP1 can import and export loops, should that be your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network drive (I gather, it's not something i've ever done, or thus far had any inclination to do) and also has feedback control, mappable independent volume and feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great looper, if they'd just got the feature set right. I'm not saying it's unusable - clearly it's usable or no-one would've bought them - but the feature set still points decidedly in the direction of it being a step-time loop builder and practice tool, rather than a versatile expressive tool suited to many different kinds of looping. But if you've found the looper for you in the RC-50, I have no intention or inclination to disavow you of that wonderful discovery, and I'm sure my ranting about it would have little impact anyway, given that you're happily gigging away. All good, nothing bad, cheers Stevewww.stevelawson.net - sitewww.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shophttp://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blogwww.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson
200710/msg00236:Re: How many loopers does Boss sell?
18: (LP1 can import and export loops, should that be your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network drive (I gather, it's not something i've ever done, or thus far had any inclination to do) and also has feedback control, mappable independent volume and feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great looper.) blah, blah... The RC-50 is $499. The LP-1 is how much??? $1,200.00? The EDP is $1000 w/o controlling pedal. Seems like the RC-50 is a pretty good value to me for 5 big ones.Steve Lawson <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk> wrote: >>>>I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be 20: feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great looper, if they'd just got the feature set right. I'm not saying it's unusable - clearly it's usable or no-one would've bought them - but the feature set still points decidedly in the direction of it being a step-time loop builder and practice tool, rather than a versatile expressive tool suited to many different kinds of looping. But if you've found the looper for you in the RC-50, I have no intention or inclination to disavow you of that wonderful discovery, and I'm sure my ranting about it would have little impact anyway, given that you're happily gigging away. All good, nothing bad, cheers
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200710/msg00502:Re: Advice on live looping software
21: loopers that do would be the boss rc-50, the Echoplex digital pro, and
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20: Thanks David, Jeff!I considered the Jamman and the RC 50 too, but since they are very expensive I tought I'd give the footcontroller+software option a chance. I read the tools section in loopersdelight before posting, but there are so many software listed it is a bit confusing for someone like me who's basically new to the trade. That is why I asked you guys for advice ;)thanks a lot everybodyLorenzo> From: echohead@embarqmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: Advice on live looping software> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:46:45 -0400> > Hi Lorenzo,> The Digitech Jamman does not have midi control capabilities. Hardware > loopers that do would be the boss rc-50, the Echoplex digital pro, and > others that I have not used. The old Lexicon Jamman did have midi sync and > you can still find them on ebay.> Good Luck, and do read the LD site> http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/tools.html> > Jeff> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" <David.Moore@ramstein.af.mil>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:39 PM> Subject: RE: Advice on live looping software> > > You should read all the reviews for the Jamman on the "tools of the> trade" section of the 'loopers delight' website.> With the Jamman, you can build loop after loop after loop...AND IT HAS A> MIDI INTERFACE BUILT RIGHT IN!> > Good luck!> david> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: Lorenzo Orlandini [mailto:weaviestonder@hotmail.it]> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:45 PM> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Advice on live looping software> > hi everyone, I'm new to the list and after an attempt at looping gone> bad a few months ago, I am trying to start over again to see if things> are more successful this time.> > I need some good advice from experts. I play guitar in a band, and would> like to loop bits and riffs over the electronic rhytmics another member> of the band makes with fruity loops. I tried an RC 20 XL, but it didnt> work out since it wasnt midi-synchable. So I am going to try using a> MIDI footcontroller and use a software to loop my guitar - the software> will be clearly midi synched to fruity loops.> > Crea il tuo Spaces: fai il tuo blog e carica fino a 500 foto al mese! Windows Live Spaces
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200711/msg00095:RE: FlyLoops and electronic instruments
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18: Aaron said:I am certainly no mobius expert .. so perhaps you can help me through this.me neither, but mobius started as a multiple EDP, as SooperLooper and others... so I started some kind of a standard, which had contributions by Eric Obermuehlner, Rolf Spuler, Keith McMillan, Kim Flint, Andy Butler and others for the EDP, then from creators of other looping units and now you...As you see, this is the first discussion that comes up if an experienced looper like Kris wants to know what you have under the hood, so you triggered a good movement:** It helps the users and the idea, if similar functions have the same understandable short Name in all tools **... and this list is probably the best place to figure them out! INITIAL LOOP:Both flyloops and mobius (I think) get their timing from an intial recordedloop ... the "master". All others are synced to that, or not ... whichbrings us to .....SYNCING:I am not sure what polyrythmic is on the looping comparison chart .. but Ibet we have the same idea here. All loops in flyloops can be recorded as:- full sync - meaning start/stop recording only at the masters loop boundary.. so all loops start/stop with the master, and are a multiple of the masterloops lengthIn the EDP we called this Quantized (Record, Multiply...), which is maybe not so ideal, since we might end up quantizing the sound to the loop one day...Full Sync does not convince me though, because what you call Partial Sync is also fully synced, in technical and musical terms. Two loops of different lenght which coincide again somewhen in the future are synced. Ljubo Majstorovic implemented such a Sync function where you have to record the second loop pretty accurately because it rounds very little, so this may be the best use of the name Sync!So if you dont like Quantized, maybe we find a more musical expression like "on the beat"?- partial sync - start recording whenever I tap in, but when I tap out ..wait until the loop is some multiple of the masters length ... so all loopsare a multiple of the length ... but will start/stop only at a particularoffset to the master.we spoke about Rounding, which hits the nail better, I think- No sync - just start and stop when I tap ... so the loop can be anylength, and will not sync to the master.some call this Free(running) or UnsyncedTAP TEMPO:Mobius does this ... Flyloops will, once pitch/tempo shift is complete.is this to change the tempo later or to preset it? the EDP has a Tempo function for preset (PBPM reference) but only the Repeater made it adaptable...MULTIPLY/ OVERWRITE: same, I thinkIs Overwrite the same as Replace? or Substitute? ADD: maybe Append whould be a better term ... add materialto the end of a loop ... increasing its length ....Per:Cool, so not like Multiply which extends the original length of the loop, but while overdubbing new material over the top.aparently what was called Insert in the EDP - not many used it...STACK: Flyloops lets you stack on loops individually ... with whateverdecay you wish ... I imagine mobius is the same.ok, shorter and just as clear as Overdub...MUTE (this was called BREAK in the LOOP delay, Keith renamed it):(1) have the loop run still in sync according to the general music time-line, (2) start exactly where it was muted (as in "pause") or (3) start from the beginning (given the un-mute action happens on the set quantize point).Yeah .... same deal with flyloops ....1) I call mute2) pause3) on/offhm... on/off is valid for any switch, so it does not help.I suggest:1 Mute2 Pause3 Restart (I dont think that anybody will want to restart while leaving the loop muted)the EDP had only option 1 and 3 as MuteModes STA and RUN or so (less nice)Also ... you should be able to just play from the beginning at an arbitrarystarting point ..... such as the "one shot" on the RC-50. thats playing once only, I suppose? The EDP had that as PlayOnce or so, OneShot is better (even if more aggressive ;-)CONSOLIDATE: consolidate loops ... select three and make them one. I don’tknow if mobius does this .... ?others call this Bounce or Merge, which is shorter...EXTERNAL SYNCING:flyloops doesn't do this ... though once it is rewire compatible it shouldby able to sync to internal sources. And .... you could set up an externalsource to trigger the rec button ... so sync that way .... but you could NOTtrack to an external drum machine as you changed tempo for example.we had long looped explanations on this list about Initial Sync vs Continuous Syncafter triggering the rec button, the loops still run away from each other!GROUP LOOPING:Technically, BrotherSync is very different but the idea is the same: allow several musicians to play together in the same groove. Very important, I think, my main motivation to start a loop machine. Looping should not isolate people but help them to find the others tempo and stay with it. You call it Group thinking of several musicians, I suppose. But you also use Group for the linking of several tracks. Or should we call that Link?BrotherLooping would be nicer than Group... or Band, Gathering, Meeting whatever...MASTERThe Brother idea was to abolish Slavery and Masters. But once the first brother starts, he becomes master. the others are not slaves, because they can choose to sync or stay free. So it would be rather like BigBrother - SmallBrother or Master - Disciple... A good tool allows the users to switch master easily (which is not so for wisdom transfer ;-) so......then again, Master may be just what people understand and has been used so far...Per said:Just a short note: In Mobius you do not group "loops" but "tracks". Each track can stack a bunch of loops but only play back one at a time. So in order to play back in parallel loops has to be recorded on different tracks. I think this is very user-friendly too, because then you can dedicate tracks for certain melody instrument and record each instrument's "verse", "chorus" or "bridge" as "loop 1", "loop 2" or "loop 3". If you then make a percussion loop on a different track and don't group it, the percussion loop will keep playing while all grouped tracks will change between different song parts.I find Track clear, but not Loop. We started calling the first recording Cycle and the maximal multiple of it Loop, but I dont like it any more. Loop means so many things already that we should not use it for any specific part of the tool. Cycle is ok, but not brilliant. The EDPs NextLoop is not very good either. But its hard to find a name apart from Loop or Sample, so I think it has to be some XxxLoop like BULoop or SavedLoop or OldLoop...Per again:ahh... you mean like "the two loops sticking together"? thats a new function I have not seen yet!maybe Join or Glue or Merge or what?
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3: Re: RC-50 and Speed Control 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 and Speed Control 18: The rc50 does not do any pitch changing. I think the electro harmonix 2880 might be what you need, with the newest software and a midi pedal.Also the eventide time factor does that very well.Teddy KumpelHttp://myspace.com/mistershiftyhttp://myspace.com/TeddybutOn Nov 10, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
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20: rackmount computer for just over a year, I picked up a rc-50, no it
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3: Re: Boss RC50 assignable outputs 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 assignable outputs 18: Thanks for that, Sjaak. I thought that might be the case. I was toying with the idea of putting the mic through 'Left' and the guitar through 'Right', therby having separate signals, so will have to see if that works. Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote: Stuart,As far as I know Mic to Main and guitar to Sub is not possible. You can only assign all the inputs to the same output: MAIN, SUB or MAIN+SUB. You'll need a mixer to do that. Reference: "RC50WS04: Audio Inputs and Outputs (PDF)"http://www.rolandus.com/uploads/CMS/Downloads/1938/RC50WS04.pdfSjaak---Scarlet One, ADSL 6 Mbps + Telefonie, vanaf EUR 29,95...http://www.scarlet.be/stuartmasters@bigfoot.com
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22: I'm spoiled, bring on the Rang 3. The RC-50 is just too disappointing to me 23: to get into. Did anyone ever figure out how to get the RC-50 not to
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55: > RC-50). Hence, having the ability to change variable parameters (e.g.,
40: (RC-2), €222 (RC-20XL) and €399 (RC-50). The Digitech Jamman is
29: i spontaneously bought a boss RC-50 looper after months and months of 33: left that feature out of the program. now i see all those RC-50
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18: MANthis looping fiasco has been the most obscenely tail chasing redundant goose chase ive ever been on with my robots. Two years ago i bought ableton live, the Behringer foot controller, and a mixer. it worked, but never the creative aspect that endless overdubbing brings. Then i (verrrrry irresponsible credit card user) bought an RC-50, played with it for a week, then got that credit card guilt thing and returned it. THEN when visiting San Francisco, a 'b-boy' lookin kid walks by me on Haight street with an echoplex digital pro under his arm, like how youd carry a book. "Echoplex! Right On!!!" i yelled, and he immediately engaged in a conversation about how al it needed was a new mix pot and other than that its perfect blah blah blah, make me an offer. so AS A JOKE, i say "how bout 20 bucks?"... he responds with a confrontational "aw man, im offended!" (and this is where all of you on this list decide to hate me) he says "gimme twenty five". TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS. i soldered in a new mix pot and scrubbed the 80's looking Graffitti off the face and top, bought the footpedal for a hundred bucks, and voialah, there went the next month of my nights, stony and looping and really just cant handle working in mono!!! so our lovely vocalist nica adopts the thing, i go back to the drawing board with an Ableton upgrade, spending countless hours and weeks and months programming and CC'ing and once it finally starts working just right.........(!)....ableton starts crashing on me every time i open it. Every time the band comes over. And Om Records is on my case about not having an act together after 2 years of configuring. so i went out and bought an RC - 50 again, hoping to sync it to my bands master clock and control hardware effects (ensoniq DP-2) with the old foot controller. I also wiped my hard drive on my laptop and installed reaktor because it sounds so nutty. Maybe ill dump another hundred bucks into an ableton upgrade to see if it runs without crashing. basically what im asking is what the hell am i doing here? people are waiting to pay us when the show is ready and i am spinning my wheels in gear and software. its rediculous. should i sell the echoplex and the RC-50 and get the looperlative? it looks so simple it kind of weirds me out being so expensive. do they have foot controllers?never mind. i love you all. HOW DO YOU GET SOOPERLOOPER TO RUN IN ABLETON???????it seemed like the perfect medium, and i tried sometime back without success. a step by step rundown would be MUCH appreciated!/rithers (normally not this whiney but just so frustrated with the "Every Looping Device is missing one crucial parameter" clause. who wrote that anyways?
51: > Then i (verrrrry irresponsible credit card user) bought an RC-50, 82: > should i sell the echoplex and the RC-50 and get the looperlative? it
21: The best possible solution is to sell the RC50 to me for 25 bucksshould i sell the echoplex and the RC-50 and get the looperlative? it looks so simple it kind of weirds me out being so expensive. do they have foot controllers?never mind. You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. Join in!
21: so, syncing with the band is an issue. The RC50 does have midi sync,
3: Re: Boss RC50 assignable outputs 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 assignable outputs 21: the RC-50 has 2 Main Outputs + 2 Aux Outputs. I have used them in
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3: Re: Boss RC50 assignable outputs 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 assignable outputs 18: Thanks, Buzap, that's really helpful. I'll try that and I think I might also try line selctors on both instrument and mic, and send them either to the RC50 or as a 'clean' signal to the front of house. Then use a third signal for the RC50. Thanks again, Stuart Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote: Hi Stuartthe RC-50 has 2 Main Outputs + 2 Aux Outputs. I have used them in different ways in the past:1.) Link the Aux Outputs with the Aux Inputs (Adapter cable)This is my standard setting. I use this for feedback/multiply like tricks.2.) You are more flexible when you route the Aux Outs back as a stereo channel in a mixer. Then, you can i.e. send the Aux Outs to an effect box and loop the wet signal.I.e. you can put the
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21: my RC-50 arrived this morning and I am already deeply in love
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24: > Aloha>> my RC-50 arrived this morning and I am already deeply in love>> i'm writing to ask for a recommendation or two for a useful amp or> p.a. to run it through.>
30: > Aloha>> my RC-50 arrived this morning and I am already deeply in love>> i'm writing to ask for a recommendation or two for a useful amp or> p.a. to run it through.>
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33: would do is put it before a "real" looper (RC50) and capture the G2
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174: RC50 for that matter! ;-))
27: Rarely, I also send the Aux Outs of my RC-50 thru effects again.
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68: Rarely, I also send the Aux Outs of my RC-50 thru effects again.
21: set-up to run out of the phone jack of my RC-50 to isolate the clicktrack.all suggestions appreciatedthanks!michaeldrum@hawaii.rr.com
200712/msg00325:Re: How do you chain your Effects?
21: I usually do it like this:Mic -> Mixer -> FX -> Mixer (Volume/Panning L/R) -> Looper -> PARarely, I also send the Aux Outs of my RC-50 thru effects again.Of course you could probably have a sophisticated setup like this:
200712/msg00327:Re: How do you chain your Effects?
32: > Rarely, I also send the Aux Outs of my RC-50 thru effects again.
200712/msg00337:Re: How do you chain your Effects?
19: like this:Mic -> Mixer -> FX -> Mixer (Volume/Panning L/R) -> Looper -> PARarely, I also send the Aux Outs of my RC-50 thru effects again.Of course you could probably have a sophisticated setup like this: Instrument -> i.e. Guitar FX pedals -> Looper -> additional FX (i.e. KaossPad) --> on final mix some master fx (i.e. reverb)But in general:Where do you usually add effects?Do you mostly loop your _dry_ or _wet_ signal? Best regardsBuzap--Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuestenBrowser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser
31: Pity there is no DD-50 (or RC-50 based on 3x DD-20
200712/msg00346:Re: How do you chain your Effects?
25: Rarely, I also send the Aux Outs of my RC-50 thru effects again.Of course you could probably have a sophisticated setup like this: Instrument -> i.e. Guitar FX pedals -> Looper -> additional FX (
200712/msg00449:LESSISMORE (was TC Electronics G Sharp, and LESSISMORE)
51: what i remember, his set rig wasn't complex (RC50, FCB 1010 and an fx
98: > what i remember, his set rig wasn't complex (RC50, FCB 1010 and an fx
31: 5. A RC-50 firmware update.
200712/msg00610:Ableton7+OSXLeopard+sooperlooper... workie?
18: So,(youve heard it before, but) ive had it with the RC-50... that special "cant sync with anything" feature makes it impossible to use in my current situation. So im back to the drawing board. the question:has anyone run the following config:?Macbook Pro > Leopard (10.5.1) > Ableton Live 7 > SooperlooperSo far im running sooperlooper (and its exactly what im looking for, I THINK)but Ableton 6 still crashes on me, even after a full hard drive wipe and new OS!!!will Ableton 7 be more crashproof? i am terrified of an on-stage-crash. will there ever be a solid solution? A perfect tool with all the answers to all the glitches in our small looping world? i know its a stale subject at this point, but it sure is too bad Roland dropped the ball on the RC-50. they were so close !!!with loverithers
200712/msg00611:Re: Ableton7+OSXLeopard+sooperlooper... workie?
30: So,(youve heard it before, but) ive had it with the RC-50... that special "cant sync with anything" feature makes it impossible to use in my current situation. So im back to the drawing board. 44: too bad Roland dropped the ball on the RC-50. they were so close !!!
200712/msg00643:Re: Ableton7+OSXLeopard+sooperlooper... workie?
18: Hi,Thats the rig I'm using now. Its really great. The only thing is, is you need a really beefy Mac. I recently got a 2.4 gig PBP with 4 gigs of ram. I've played many gigs with this and it's rock solid. I couldn't be happier. My old 1.5 gig powerbook couldn't deal with it. Even with 2 gigs of ram. So far, this is my perfect solution. ChrisOn Dec 21, 2007, at 4:28 AM, rithma wrote:So,(youve heard it before, but) ive had it with the RC-50... that special "cant sync with anything" feature makes it impossible to use in my current situation. So im back to the drawing board. the question:has anyone run the following config:?Macbook Pro > Leopard (10.5.1) > Ableton Live 7 > SooperlooperSo far im running sooperlooper (and its exactly what im looking for, I THINK)but Ableton 6 still crashes on me, even after a full hard drive wipe and new OS!!!will Ableton 7 be more crashproof? i am terrified of an on-stage-crash. will there ever be a solid solution? A perfect tool with all the answers to all the glitches in our small looping world? i know its a stale subject at this point, but it sure is too bad Roland dropped the ball on the RC-50. they were so close !!!with loverithers
200712/msg00646:Re: Ableton7+OSXLeopard+sooperlooper... workie?
24: So,(youve heard it before, but) ive had it with the RC-50... that special "cant sync with anything" feature makes it impossible to use in my current situation. So im back to the drawing board. 27: i know its a stale subject at this point, but it sure is too bad Roland dropped the ball on the RC-50. they were so close !!! with love
200712/msg00647:Re: Ableton7+OSXLeopard+sooperlooper... workie?
21: ChrisOn Dec 21, 2007, at 4:28 AM, rithma wrote:So,(youve heard it before, but) ive had it with the RC-50... that special "cant sync with anything" feature makes it impossible to use in my current situation. So im back to the drawing board. 24: i know its a stale subject at this point, but it sure is too bad Roland dropped the ball on the RC-50. they were so close !!!with love
18: hello wendy....have- you checked in the 'global' warp setting?-made sure the 'original' BPM (the BPM guessed by your PC as the original) of all the tracks are the same-if still having problems, i would sometimes have to bounce all the loops (or cut them to) the exact same length-run the ableton audio buffer tutorial to make sure the latency is just right, though that wouldnt do anything to help synch loops tho. say has anyone come up with solutions on the RC50 when i was gone? ive resorted to ableton again, this time using sooperlooper. seems quite nice, actually, if i can get it synched. i was looking around on the net and found that even the looperlative doesnt synch to Midi Time code? is this true?is the echoplex the only thing that actually exists?love rithers
18: I think the setup you are using is the best solution to syncing loops. The problem being the power of your CPU. As long as thats up to the task, you should have no problem. The routing, flexibility with effects and sound quality of SL in Live, I think, makes it the best combination I have tried yet, and I have tried them all. Except of course Mobius (PC Only). Good luckOn Dec 27, 2007, at 5:00 PM, rithma wrote:hello wendy....have- you checked in the 'global' warp setting?-made sure the 'original' BPM (the BPM guessed by your PC as the original) of all the tracks are the same-if still having problems, i would sometimes have to bounce all the loops (or cut them to) the exact same length-run the ableton audio buffer tutorial to make sure the latency is just right, though that wouldnt do anything to help synch loops tho. say has anyone come up with solutions on the RC50 when i was gone? ive resorted to ableton again, this time using sooperlooper. seems quite nice, actually, if i can get it synched. i was looking around on the net and found that even the looperlative doesnt synch to Midi Time code? is this true?is the echoplex the only thing that actually exists?love rithers
22: -run the ableton audio buffer tutorial to make sure the latency is just right, though that wouldnt do anything to help synch loops tho. say has anyone come up with solutions on the RC50 when i was gone? ive resorted to ableton again, this time using sooperlooper.
200712/msg00820:Re: WHAT DON'T YOU LIKE ABOUT YOUR LOOPER(S)
19: On my DL4 I wish there was more time available and I wish the switches, both internal and external were more robust. I replaced all switches connected to the board and external metal swtiches on the unit. On the RC50 I wish there was a dedicated guitar and instrument OUT instead of only instrument In. And the Mic out was an XLR. They way Roland did it to my mine was not professional.On Dec 29, 2007, at 4:32 AM, Jeff Duke wrote:Rick and all,On the DL-4 I wish that it had more delay time in the regular models at leasts as much as the looper,in lieu of that I wish it had variable feedback on the looper, I love your 1/4 time switch idea. More sound manglingoptions!On the Boss DD-20 I don't like that it has1- no expression pedal control2- no feedback on the looper3,4- no forward, reverse, half speed, double speed switchs5- except for some tricks talked about on this list you can't go back and forth between ( i wish all of the presets)two or more presets, modifying them as you go.6- I wish that you could stop, start the playback of a loop with the push of a button (no stutters on this one)That said the two of them together are a blast. Good topic Rick!Jeffhttp://www.thisphase.org/lips.html----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:53 AMSubject: WHAT DON'T YOU LIKE ABOUT YOUR LOOPER(S) I"m being approached continually by newbies and askedabout my recommendations about what to buy when gettingstarted with live looping.I have my own personal favorites in different price ranges (and I'm mostlytalking about hardware here, though do alert people to how many options areavailable through cool new software solutions).One thing I thought might be valuable as a resource is to find outwhat people DON'T like about their favorite loopers and what,in a perfect world, the loop manufacturers would add to anexisting looping pedal (or software solution).It's nice to know what the drawbacks are in a pedal when you are tryingfigure out if you want to buy it or not.I'll start off by listing one of my favorites stomp box loopers:The Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller/Looping pedal (street price $250):WHAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE LINE 6 DL-4:I love this pedal but wish to hell that it was a true stereo pedal rather thana sum to mono pedal that purports to be stereo.Additionally, I wish it had midi synchronization.I know that all units that do midi synchronization cost a lot more, soit makes me wonder. Does adding midi sync capability trulyadd that much to a floor model live looping device?And one last wish: I think it would be cool if it had a 1/4 time switchas well as a 1/4 time switch for the loops (which would allow one todo things that are 4 times as fast or 4 times as slow depending onhow one started recording (in 1/4 time bandwidth or full time bandwidth)I know that this would add so many artifacts that the loop would soundreally weird and non-naturalistic: That's why I wish it had such a featurewhich seems not too difficult to program.Now the Line 6 people have, in the past, been completley uninterested inadding features for the sake of the looping community. The live loopingcommunity is just a small fraction of the people who buy thispedal (mostly for it's digital modellings of all the cool delay units of yesteryear).Still, this is what I"d add.What do you all think about your favorite pedals limitations?-- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM Sean Mormelosean@seanmormelo.comwww.seanmormelo.comwww.myspace.com/seanmormelo
200712/msg00821:Re: WHAT DON'T YOU LIKE ABOUT YOUR LOOPER(S)
69: On the RC50 I wish there was a dedicated guitar and instrument OUT
200712/msg00887:Re: WHAT DON'T YOU LIKE ABOUT YOUR LOOPER(S)
69: > On the RC50 I wish there was a dedicated guitar
200712/msg00895:Re: WHAT DON'T YOU LIKE ABOUT YOUR LOOPER(S)
79: > On the RC50 I wish there was a dedicated guitar
3: RC50 "warbling" 10: Subject: RC50 "warbling" 19: i'm trying to figure out if all rc50's are doing this
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3: Re: RC50 "warbling" 10: Subject: Re: RC50 "warbling" 19: you have to turn tempo Sync off because once you record the loop if you try to change the tempo it warbles it all up and your audio is unusable...one of the MAIN reasons I bought teh RC50 is because of the tempo synch feature ironically. On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:35 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:Quoting Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>: Hi,My RC-50 works fine, it could be a configuration problem. Have you checked the Tempo Func option (CTL/EXP button)? Does it say "SYS(tem)"? Have you tried "PAT(ch)"? See page 70 of the manual.Regards,Sjaak Regarding the RC-50 -- I've observed this when I record a loop then change the tempo. It follows that a track, recorded at one tempo, then played back at another would do the same thing.-- Kevin Sean Mormelosean@seanmormelo.comwww.seanmormelo.comwww.myspace.com/seanmormelo
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200801/msg00355:Re: Live Looping signal chain - the most simple looping setup
18: RC50 - ampI win - RC50 is simpler than the EDP ;-).-PaulOn Jan 11, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:edp-ampi win!!;-)raul.2008/1/12, max valentino <ekstasis1@hotmail.com>: Well... my previous post was pretty simple. But, how abou this:Zvex LoFi, Demeter Tube Direct Box......that's it.I am actually planning on using this rig for a solo bit I am to do at an art gallery next week. Lemme see....no amp, two little bitty pieces of gear and one bass.......load in/out will be a pleasure!Max>> This makes me wonder...who does have the most simple looping setup?> Possible metrics for that: > * least number of devices> * least size/weight> * most simple with regard to processing possibilities>> Instruments do not count, amps count. Ah, and it has to have a looper in it! >> I make the first submission:> Zoom G2.1u, Boss DD20>> Rainer>_________________________________________________________________Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_012008 -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpoChain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.comTPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
200801/msg00356:Re: Live Looping signal chain - the most simple looping setup
19: RC50 - ampI win - RC50 is simpler than the EDP ;-).-PaulOn Jan 11, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:
200801/msg00357:Re: Live Looping signal chain - the most simple looping setup
18: Actually, for me, the simplest set up is one I'm going to try at an upcoming art gallery gig that's supposed to be acoustic. I'll be playing an acoustic 12 string baritone guitar into a RC50 with 2 powered computer speakers off the RC50. The idea, which is working out pretty well in practice anyway, is to have the speakers under and towards the back of my chair (I play seated) and have the volume equal to or slightly less than the guitar - that way it'll be real acoustic over amplified looped acoustic. Should work out fine unless crowd chatter buries the sound, though it's a small room and shouldn't attract a static gathering - more "browsers".On Jan 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote:RC50 - ampI win - RC50 is simpler than the EDP ;-).-PaulOn Jan 11, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:edp-ampi win!!;-)raul.2008/1/12, max valentino <ekstasis1@hotmail.com>: Well... my previous post was pretty simple. But, how abou this:Zvex LoFi, Demeter Tube Direct Box......that's it.I am actually planning on using this rig for a solo bit I am to do at an art gallery next week. Lemme see....no amp, two little bitty pieces of gear and one bass.......load in/out will be a pleasure!Max>> This makes me wonder...who does have the most simple looping setup?> Possible metrics for that: > * least number of devices> * least size/weight> * most simple with regard to processing possibilities>> Instruments do not count, amps count. Ah, and it has to have a looper in it! >> I make the first submission:> Zoom G2.1u, Boss DD20>> Rainer>_________________________________________________________________Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_012008 -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpoChain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.comTPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
200801/msg00359:RE: Live Looping signal chain - the most simple looping setup
54: be playing an acoustic 12 string baritone guitar into a RC50 with 2 powered 55: computer speakers off the RC50. The idea, which is working out pretty 80: RC50 - amp 90: I win - RC50 is simpler than the EDP ;-).
200801/msg00370:Re: Live Looping signal chain - the most simple looping setup
19: Actually, for me, the simplest set up is one I'm going to try at an upcoming art gallery gig that's supposed to be acoustic. I'll be playing an acoustic 12 string baritone guitar into a RC50 with 2 powered computer speakers off the RC50. The idea, which is working out pretty well in practice anyway, is to have the speakers under and towards the back of my chair (I play seated) and have the volume equal to or slightly less than the guitar - that way it'll be real acoustic over amplified looped acoustic. Should work out fine unless crowd chatter buries the sound, though it's a small room and shouldn't attract a static gathering - more "browsers". 20: On Jan 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote:RC50 - ampI win - RC50 is simpler than the EDP ;-).
200801/msg00378:Re: Live Looping signal chain - the most simple looping setup
18: On Jan 12, 2008, at 5:27 AM, Raul Bonell wrote:will be speakers hidden?.Not hidden, just unobtrusive. Object being to amplify the looping just to the point of matching the acoustic volume of the guitar - in effect an acoustic guitar duo. Ideally I could stream line more and go all battery power with an RC20 and small Roland cube but I've been working on some concepts that make use of the RC50's ability to run three independent loop lines...2008/1/12, Paul Mimlitsch <pmimlitsch@mac.com>: Actually, for me, the simplest set up is one I'm going to try at an upcoming art gallery gig that's supposed to be acoustic. I'll be playing an acoustic 12 string baritone guitar into a RC50 with 2 powered computer speakers off the RC50. The idea, which is working out pretty well in practice anyway, is to have the speakers under and towards the back of my chair (I play seated) and have the volume equal to or slightly less than the guitar - that way it'll be real acoustic over amplified looped acoustic. Should work out fine unless crowd chatter buries the sound, though it's a small room and shouldn't attract a static gathering - more "browsers". On Jan 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote:RC50 - ampI win - RC50 is simpler than the EDP ;-). -PaulOn Jan 11, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:edp-ampi win!!;-)raul.
200801/msg00444:Re: Tapping -- What are the tricks to staying synched to your rhythmsection
30: (for the RC-50 users: works only in SINGLE mode).
3: Re: RC50 "warbling" 10: Subject: Re: RC50 "warbling" 21: that's a "classic" mistake on the RC-50:
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200801/msg00448:Re: Live Looping signal chain - the most simple looping setup
200801/msg00480:AW: Recomendations for hardware looper
61: 2) There isn't even a demo model of the RC50 at Roland (that's kind of
65: > 2) There isn't even a demo model of the RC50 at Roland (that's kind
3: RC-50 up for grabs 10: Subject: RC-50 up for grabs 19: My Boss RC-50 has been sitting there for too long. I hate to take
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200802/msg00079:Ableton Live & The best way to multi track.
23: The audio "big picture" is something like this. With Live as the laptop's host DAW, Stylus RMX is hammering out some beat insanity possibly triggered by Simpler, The Instrument Rack, Impulse, maybe Reaktor, whatever. The guitarist and bassist are jamming along on their respective instruments while clips are being recorded of what they are doing in Live's respective audio tracks. All of sudden the bassist gets this crazy notion to extend his somewhat dorky tennis shoe and stomp on his RC-50 without missing a beat. He volumes down his bass, sits it on a stand and wheels his lunky clunky ass over to the laptop where some real diabolism begins. The guitarists and bassist have been recording into four tracks total. Two for MR. G and Two for MR. B. The first thing I am going to do (yes, that's right, I am the bassist dorky shoe and all) is stop one clip from MR. G and one clip from MR. B. At this point all I do is go in and grab a 2 or 4 bar loop of myself, hit the clips play button and cross fade it out with the track that my looper is going to. We have still never detected an absence of my bass in the audio big picture and whereas the guitarist may be involved in all kinds of rhythmic or lead based tom foolery, I am able to quickly and seamlessly change out my own bass guitar loops so that there is no "fake" feeling of too much repetition per my bass looper. I am now fully free to "hot swap" midi instruments in midi tracks and audio effects in audio tracks, call up all kinds of sound bytes and synthesizer manipulations and so forth. All this is damn wonderful (or torturesque depending on your perspective) for the audience, but what if we REALLY like the performance and want to go back and remix the tracks? This being because as we recorded the stereo feed and later normalized the feed, we need to. What if we just want to keep and synchronize a few of the tracks while eliminating the clutter?
20: glitch, it's NOTHING like the RC50 glitch, which is like a 200ms
200802/msg00117:Electro Harmonix 2880 a good choice for a looper
18: I've liked this unit for the price point and features. However, am I smoking something or am I correct in understanding this unit has only a one loop capability with multiple 'tracks' -and- the ability to bounce tracks? I've begun using simpler gear (currently have a Boss RC-2) but I would like the capability to create at least three different loops to switch between. Doesn't seem like the 2880 can do that. In that case maybe the Rc-50 (with all its warts) would be a better choice. Regards, Paul
200802/msg00118:RC50 (Re: Electro Harmonix 2880 a good choice for a looper)
3: RC50 (Re: Electro Harmonix 2880 a good choice for a looper) 10: Subject: RC50 (Re: Electro Harmonix 2880 a good choice for a looper) 18: Paul;If you're just looking to have 3 independent loops, the ability to fade out/ in each one independently, switch between them for layering, sync or unsync them, switch from overdub to replace mode on the fly, then the RC50 will fit the bill and you shouldn't encounter any "warts" - I haven't, anyway. Do install the upgrade, though. - PaulOn Feb 6, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Paul Richards wrote:I've liked this unit for the price point and features. However, am I smoking something or am I correct in understanding this unit has only a one loop capability with multiple 'tracks' -and- the ability to bounce tracks? I've begun using simpler gear (currently have a Boss RC-2) but I would like the capability to create at least three different loops to switch between. Doesn't seem like the 2880 can do that. In that case maybe the Rc-50 (with all its warts) would be a better choice. Regards, Paul Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
200802/msg00127:RE: Electro Harmonix 2880 a good choice for a looper
20: glitch, it's NOTHING like the RC50 glitch, which is like a 200msglitch. Also, like Ian said, you can make the looper do 48 seconds byusing 1/4 time mode. the sound quality doesn't suffer much that waylike other pedals. I also love that you can make presets that save
200802/msg00136:Wiring Troubles: 2 Loopers & A Mixing Board
18: I've been trying to solve this little puzzle for a couple nights now, and at long last turn to the hive mind to sort it all out.Here are the critical components:Two loopers - A KP3 and Boss RC-50.One 12 channel mixer, a Behringer Xenyx 1222FX, with two mono sends - One labled FX, one labeled MON - Upon review of the manual, they are effectively the same thing. Each of the 12 channels has two knobs that determines the amount of the signal being sent to either of the sends.
35: >it's NOTHING like the RC50 glitch, which is like a 200ms glitch. Also,
53: it's NOTHING like the RC50 glitch, which is like a 200msglitch. Also,
3: Re: RC-50 up for grabs 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 up for grabs 29: > My Boss RC-50 has been sitting there for too long. I hate to take
200802/msg00150:Re: Wiring Troubles: 2 Loopers & A Mixing Board
19: I've been trying to solve this little puzzle for a couple nights now, and at long last turn to the hive mind to sort it all out.Here are the critical components:Two loopers - A KP3 and Boss RC-50.One 12 channel mixer, a Behringer Xenyx 1222FX, with two mono sends - One labled FX, one labeled MON - Upon review of the manual, they are effectively the same thing. Each of the 12 channels has two knobs that determines the amount of the signal being sent to either of the sends.
200802/msg00153:Re: Wiring Troubles: 2 Loopers & A Mixing Board
31: > > Two loopers - A KP3 and Boss RC-50.
200802/msg00175:Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010)
3: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010) 10: Subject: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010) 18: Hey there.I guess what i'm trying to do is not possible, but i want to have some opinions first.So, i use the rc50 on the table, with my hands, because i switch quite often the output from main to sub, and other functions like that.
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200802/msg00177:Re: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010)
3: Re: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010) 10: Subject: Re: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010) 31: You can plug external foot pedals into your RC50. Thus, you can keep
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200802/msg00178:Re: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010)
3: Re: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010) 10: Subject: Re: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010) 18: Hello KevinThanks for your immediate answer!on page 71 of the english manual, it has the table of the commands you can send to RC50 via ext pedals.(and on page 78 you get the midi one too...)for phrase # ply/stp however, it says that playback does not start if the phrase is blank. if it wasnt so, when a phrase was blank, it could start recording immediately.
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200802/msg00199:RE: AW: looper + laptop interaction
21: I forgot to mention that I'm on a mac. I'd actually prefer NOT to use a laptop and just keep it hardware based (looper + something that holds audio that can be organized / triggered).I'll have a look at the Roland and Akai products you mentioned and see if I can figure out how to sync one to a repeater (or what i've got right now - a boss RC-50)Thanks - any more info is welcome.: )> From: rs@moinlabs.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: AW: looper + laptop interaction> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:49:40 +0100> > > I'm looking for the simplest way to have a hardware looper sync up with> pre-recorded audio on a laptop or other device.> > You may think about rephrasing your question and look for the simplest way> to sync a software looper with prerecorded audio on a laptop, if you already> are positive with the need for a laptop.> > If you prefer to stay hardware entirely, something like a Roland MC909 or> Akai MPC may be preferable (and then, depending on your feature needs,> either take a Repeater (if you need the pitch bending) or a Looperlative).> > If you want to use Ableton Live and use it on an XP machine, why not use> Mobius as a plugin in Live. A lot of loopers (including me) favor that> solution.> > Best,> > Rainer>
200802/msg00206:RE: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010)
3: RE: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010) 10: Subject: RE: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010) 19: Most features can be controlled on the RC-50 except record start/stop. I
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200802/msg00213:RE: AW: looper + laptop interaction
200802/msg00216:Re: AW: looper + laptop interaction
200802/msg00227:RE: AW: looper + laptop interaction
21: Thanks Luis - your input has clarified, for me, my needs here. In response to your suggestion of just using a repeater and putting my pre-recorded bed track (containing all i can't reproduce live) onto one of the tracks: with a repeater, can the length of the individual tracks vary, while all is still tempo synced? For example, could I just toss a bed track onto channel 4 (let's say a 4 min long piece of audio), and then use the other 3 channels to create/start/stop/reverse loops while the 4 min piece plays from start to finish?and if this is possible, am i right to think that, on a 256mb flash card, i could fit a whole set's worth of bed tracks (whole songs minus what i create live)?thanks again to everyone who has offered input - very helpful. i am nearing a solution - i can feel it!: )> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:38:45 -0800> From: labaloops@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: AW: looper + laptop interaction> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Hey Jesse,> just thought id pitch in,i use the EDP at times synced> to an Akai MPC1000, or the EDP as a slave,though if u> are using precanned loops then slaving the EDP is> probably the way you wanna go.> The way i do is:> MPC1000 midi out-FCB1010 footcontroller midi in/out-to> EDP> when you play a loop on the MPC1000(or any sampler)> you can just keep recording loops on the EDP, erase> them,rerecord new ones,add layers etc.by setting the> the midi merge function on the FCB1010 then sync out> on the MPC and sync in on the EDP they will syncronize> nicely to the loops from the sampler,as long as you> dont go to wild on the exotic functions of the EDP> like multiply/replace/reverse etc.(but realign or> retriggering can be ass-savers;-)> I find the other way around tighter,that is the EDP> being the master but then you would have to know the> bpm of the loop in advance and send it from the EDP so> they sync perfectly.But the EDP works great as a> master with a drum machine or preprogramed sequence> patterns.> The new O.S of the MPC1000 has a exciting new> functions like patch phrase and sample chopping which> takes an existing sample and divides it up to create> your own patterns,then you can assign the samples> original bass,snare,hi-hat and all the samples drum> sounds into your pads,that way if you use the EDP as a> master and redefine the loop to be shorter or> longer,or press half speed for ex.the sample will> follow your loops!> anyway this is just my hardware solution,but id love> to try the laptop route as well!> Luis> > > > > > --- Jesse Thom <jessethevessel@hotmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > I forgot to mention that I'm on a mac. > > > > I'd actually prefer NOT to use a laptop and just> > keep it hardware based (looper + something that> > holds audio that can be organized / triggered).> > > > I'll have a look at the Roland and Akai products you> > mentioned and see if I can figure out how to sync> > one to a repeater (or what i've got right now - a> > boss RC-50)> > > > Thanks - any more info is welcome.> > : )> > > > > > > From: rs@moinlabs.de> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Subject: AW: looper + laptop interaction> > > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:49:40 +0100> > > > > > > I'm looking for the simplest way to have a> > hardware looper sync up with> > > pre-recorded audio on a laptop or other device.> > > > > > You may think about rephrasing your question and> > look for the simplest way> > > to sync a software looper with prerecorded audio> > on a laptop, if you already> > > are positive with the need for a laptop.> > > > > > If you prefer to stay hardware entirely, something> > like a Roland MC909 or> > > Akai MPC may be preferable (and then, depending on> > your feature needs,> > > either take a Repeater (if you need the pitch> > bending) or a Looperlative).> > > > > > If you want to use Ableton Live and use it on an> > XP machine, why not use> > > Mobius as a plugin in Live. A lot of loopers> > (including me) favor that> > > solution.> > > > > > Best,> > > > > > Rainer> > > > > > >> _________________________________________________________________> > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom> > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping>
200802/msg00243:Re: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010)
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200802/msg00244:Re: Rc-50 ext. midi control (eg. FCB 1010)
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200802/msg00252:Re: Wiring Troubles: 2 Loopers & A Mixing Board
23: Here are the critical components:Two loopers - A KP3 and Boss RC-50.One 12 channel mixer, a Behringer Xenyx 1222FX, with two mono sends - One labled FX, one labeled MON - Upon review of the manual, they are effectively the same thing. Each of the 12 channels has two knobs that determines the amount of the signal being sent to either of the sends.
200802/msg00288:Re: Wiring Troubles: 2 Loopers & A Mixing Board
32: Here are the critical components:Two loopers - A KP3 and Boss RC-50.One 12 channel mixer, a Behringer Xenyx 1222FX, with two mono sends - One labled FX, one labeled MON - Upon review of the manual, they are effectively the same thing. Each of the 12 channels has two knobs that determines the amount of the signal being sent to either of the sends.
200802/msg00289:Re: Wiring Troubles: 2 Loopers & A Mixing Board
45: Here are the critical components:Two loopers - A KP3 and Boss RC-50.One 12 channel mixer, a Behringer Xenyx 1222FX, with two mono sends - One labled FX, one labeled MON - Upon review of the manual, they are effectively the same thing. Each of the 12 channels has two knobs that determines the amount of the signal being sent to either of the sends.
200802/msg00379:back on the list; RC-50 still glitches (but less); weekly show (seeking musicians)
3: back on the list; RC-50 still glitches (but less); weekly show (seeking musicians) 10: Subject: back on the list; RC-50 still glitches (but less); weekly show (seeking musicians) 23: I bought an RC-50 when it came out, but I was very disappointed, with
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200802/msg00381:Re: back on the list; RC-50 still glitches (but less); weekly show (seeking musicians)
3: Re: back on the list; RC-50 still glitches (but less); weekly show (seeking musicians) 10: Subject: Re: back on the list; RC-50 still glitches (but less); weekly show (seeking musicians) 39: > I bought an RC-50 when it came out, but I was very disappointed, with
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3: Boss RC50 delay issues 10: Subject: Boss RC50 delay issues 18: Hi there, Sorry to be annoying as I'm sure this has been discussed before but I can't find anything that fits my question in the archive... Have any RC50 users noticed that, even after downloading the fix from the Roland site the first playback still omits a couple of milliseconds (not as bad as before but still a big pain)? I have been experimenting for hours and the only explanation I can find is that it will cut off a couple of milliseconds at the beginning of the first playback, whatever you do. This is particulary bad problem with vocal loops. Grateful if anyone can tell me if my experience is normal or if it's a problem with my unit (or worse still - me!). Thanksstuartmasters@bigfoot.com
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3: Re: Boss RC50 delay issues 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 delay issues 19: I'm finding that the problem is really noticeable upon first recording but when it plays through once you can't hear the drop out as much. Another solution is to play the part you want to loop 2 times, thus recording over the section that has the slight dropout. It's more a drop in volume. After I did the software fix I find the RC50 is very usable and I'm using it as we speak gigging every night in St. Mortiz, Switzerland. I haven't even scratched the surface really with it's features but I will say the MAIN thing I bought this for was so I could tap tempo in changes and have my loops follow and not get all garbled up....We all know that this DOES NOT work on this unit so The unit got very little use from me as a consequence until recently.I know I can set up a laptop rig with LIVE that will allow me to do everything I want but I haven't had the time to put into setting it up...At some point I will begin setting it up and then I suspect I'll be able to do everything I want. I wish there were a box like the RC50 that tempo synched without changing the pitch to a great degree kinda like the technology in Abletons LIVE...For me having it all set up and sounding good in a hardware box would be so much easier becase like I said, I'm pressed for time and to have to sit around with my laptop and Midi pedal, programing the software to do all the functions I want has been something I haven't had time to do and may not..On Feb 24, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Stuart Masters wrote:Hi there, Sorry to be annoying as I'm sure this has been discussed before but I can't find anything that fits my question in the archive... Have any RC50 users noticed that, even after downloading the fix from the Roland site the first playback still omits a couple of milliseconds (not as bad as before but still a big pain)? I have been experimenting for hours and the only explanation I can find is that it will cut off a couple of milliseconds at the beginning of the first playback, whatever you do. This is particulary bad problem with vocal loops. Grateful if anyone can tell me if my experience is normal or if it's a problem with my unit (or worse still - me!). Thanksstuartmasters@bigfoot.com Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox. Sean Mormelosean@seanmormelo.comwww.seanmormelo.comwww.myspace.com/seanmormelo
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200802/msg00471:more on the RC-50; any thoughts on the eventide timefactor?
3: more on the RC-50; any thoughts on the eventide timefactor? 10: Subject: more on the RC-50; any thoughts on the eventide timefactor? 75: > > I bought an RC-50 when it came out, but I was very disappointed, with
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3: Re: Boss RC50 delay issues 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 delay issues 18: Thanks, John and Sean. It seems to be that there's no way of getting round that volume dip/drop out. It's a shame because none of the loops I'm currently using work with the RC50. I'm too used to the good old Headrush, however limited it is! Can't wait for the Boomerang 3... john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote: I've found that when working with RC50, you need to be particularly conscious of fully depressing the record/play footswitch when ending the loop. In other words, the point of attack is not when you hit the top of the switch but when it is fully depressed. That may seem incredibly obvious, but I find that my loops are cleaner if I stay conscious of that.Ironically, though I found that awareness helpful when working with the
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3: more on the RC-50. 10: Subject: more on the RC-50. 60: > > I bought an RC-50 when it came out, but I was very disappointed, with
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200802/msg00479:Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 18: So this is really annoying.Two big issues with the RC-50.There are two issues with the RC-50 that undermine this otherwise really useful device.
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200802/msg00480:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 19: Yeah and midi sync doesn't work either. Problem is, Roland doesn't give a shit. They've said as much. On Feb 25, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote:So this is really annoying.Two big issues with the RC-50.There are two issues with the RC-50 that undermine this otherwise really useful device. the glitch on first loop.the time-stretching artefacts.The time-stretching quality issue is harder to fix, perhaps less important. Let's look at the second one quickly. This is pretty bad; it makes the time-stretching unusable for me at least. But it's almost usable, others would be fine with it, and it's just a specific sound; it's consistent. But more realistically, fixing time-stretching is hard. It's DSP. You need a serious grasp of mathematics. You can't just add a few if statements and have it all work. (I still bet I could make it sound better than that if I had a hack at the source code but I always think that...) The loop glitch is much easier to fix and REALLY annoying. The glitch is simply silly. I understand that when the box came out, they had a problem. But they had a rev. that *almost* fixed the issue, but not quite. What's with that? And this _isn't_ a hard issue, algorithmically. In fact, I don't really have a model of why there's any issue at all.(*) Still, that's certainly fixable with logic, not DSP -- in other words, you should be able to just "add a few if statements" and make it work. I understand realtime code is pretty hard in general but I stand by my evaluation that this must be problem that's feasible to solve without too much engineering time. Power to the people! So here's my suggestion. I think we should get together everyone who has an RC-50 and get them all to ask for a fix to BOTH issues -- but making clear that the glitch is the most important one. The reason we ask for both is that they are then sort of forced to give us one. :-D Always ask for more than you hope to get when you're negotiating. We need to point out that the unit was flawed out of the box, we've stuck with it, and the supposed fix didn't really improve the time stretching, it helped the glitch but it's still there and it's been a long time. looperglitch.com think think think. heh, here's what I'd do. I'd register a site called looperglitch.com and I'd put just text and embedded youtube videos from tons of musicians with someone demonstrating the problem with the glitch and the time stretching. Then everyone who owns the unit can contact Roland's tech support and send this URL; and we can post it to the appropriate music and support groups so it gets some publicity. I'll bet we could get it on music-thing at least.Possible ideas for the videos The videos would be short and sweet; we need one where you compare the unit's performance with another Looper that does a really good job at it. For example you'd compare the Headrush with the RC-50 for the loop glitch, or with the Repeater for the time glitch. I know it's not entirely fair to use the Repeater, which is "best of show" for time stretching, but we really want to make our point. The ideal videos would have almost no speech in them. "This is the headrush. This is the RC-50. Headrush. RC-50" (you show the good one first so the contrast is more obvious...) Sorry for being so dogmatic and etc. in the last text. Feel free to ignore what I say... :-D I can do a lot of this.I can certainly do pretty well all of this, certainly setting up the site, myself. But there's no point if I'm just some I'll try to record some at my gig tonight, actually -- there's a camera there and I'll have all three of those units there to compare set up. It costs nada to have more videos, you should all record some. I can do a little magic to make sure that they appear in "random order" within each category so everyone gets a shot. We need people to do this!It doesn't have to be very many but it has to be more than one lone crank. (* -- Oh, wait, I do. In these sorts of machines, you always need to be a little ahead of realtime. So they represent their sound in chunks of a fixed size for manipulation and then queue these up. Unfortunately, their queue implementation is lame and doesn't handle this specific case until the currently playing chunk is finished, though it gets the time calculations right.)
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200802/msg00481:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 25: On Feb 25, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote:So this is really annoying.Two big issues with the RC-50.
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200802/msg00482:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
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200802/msg00483:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 18: That's a great idea. If enough people were willing to take part it could make a difference. Having had such a good experience with the RC20xl, I can't believe that the RC50 has such a fundamental flaw. I guess they've gone this far without doing anything as it's the only hardware looper like it on the market. They can afford to be complacent. andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Tom Ritchford wrote:> If we make a big fuss, saying, "YOUR UNIT HAS SERIOUS ISSUES AND YOU > WON'T FIX THEM" then it will be bad PR for them. Good luck with that, Roland are PR geniuses.andy butler
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200802/msg00484:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 29: makes a difference. I've been trying to decide between the RC-50 and
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200802/msg00489:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 21: 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> On Feb 25, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: So this is really annoying. Two big issues with the RC-50. There are two issues with the RC-50 that undermine this otherwise really useful device. the glitch on first loop. the time-stretching artefacts. The time-stretching quality issue is harder to fix, perhaps less important. Let's look at the second one quickly. This is pretty bad; it makes the time-stretching unusable for me at least. But it's almost usable, others would be fine with it, and it's just a specific sound; it's consistent.
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200802/msg00491:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 21: had a late answer from roland support in the us regarding the rc50....but i
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200802/msg00498:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
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200802/msg00514:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 19: I'm down with this Tom... the RC-50, while my main looper at this point, is really annoying because of the glitches, midi sync and time stretching.which do you think would be more effective, a class action letter from a lawyer or the website? or both have to happen?The suit is a good idea because, after all, their own marketing blurbs tout all those features as key reasons why to buy the thing.teddy kOn Feb 26, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote:On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 4:34 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > If we make a big fuss, saying, "YOUR UNIT HAS SERIOUS ISSUES AND YOU > WON'T FIX THEM" then it will be bad PR for them. at least we get to > cost them some $$$.... because if people really believe "they make > crappy products they won't support" then they won't buy them! I appreciate the idea, but I'm not sure they are worried about PR -There isn't a company in the world that sells to consumers that isn't worried about PR. I mean, they care enough to put out their own magazine. Believe you me, this is the sort of conversation that companies are terrified of:"I'm going to get a Roland xxx""Oh, my friend had endless trouble with Roland's yyy -- don't do it." Whole companies have collapsed based on that sort of thing.If you read the explanation from tech support, it's really dishonest. They don't want to fix their old products because they're busy making new products. In other words, it's a massive con to get your money with products that don't work, and they'll never fix. So. I'll set up the domain, and make some movies. My movies probably won't come for a week, as even though I have a nice camera, it stays near the gig.... so get on your movies.I'm also realizing that it might be fun to sue them in small claims court... as it isn't very time-consuming for me, and they probably won't show up to contest it. I have a particular hatred of being ripped off by large corporations because you know they're doing it to thousands of others.
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200802/msg00515:RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 19: I've seen a lot of complaints about the RC-50 on this list. Imo the issue
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200802/msg00516:RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 22: off "gap" when you stop recording. Reason: the RC-50 sync's your 2nd
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200802/msg00517:RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 18: Thanks very much for this. I'm pretty sure I've tried everything possible to overcome the glitch (literally hours) but when I'm looping vocals with a hard consonant at the beginning, like a 'k' or something similar, it's really noticeable that you miss at least part of it. It can be quite disjointing. That said, I'll go and try what you just suggested and see if the solution lies there. Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote: I've seen a lot of complaints about the RC-50 on this list. Imo the issue is caused by the loop quantize feature and infact it's documented in the 1.01 OS release notes. But if you carefully read the release notes the workaround is not to use the rhythmn mode. Let's first take a good look at the release notes.-----* Priority
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200802/msg00519:RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: RE: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 19: there. Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote: I've seen a lot of complaints about the RC-50 on this list. Imo the issue is caused by the loop quantize feature and infact it's documented in the 1.01 OS release notes. But if you carefully read the release notes the workaround is not to use the rhythmn mode. Let's first take a good look at the release notes.-----* Priority Given to Rhythm (Factory Default) *This preserves the performance rhythm from the time that recording started.When you operate the pedal, the performance-start location is adjusted and playback is started accordingly. Although it may sometimes sound as if playback has started from the middle of a phrase, from the following loop, playback takes place as recorded.* Priority Given to Sound *This starts playback from
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200802/msg00520:Re: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues) 19: this is very true...If you turn off the loop quantize you get a volume drop when you begin recording your phrase but upon playback there is NO GAP...I do not use the loop quantize and I get no gap in sound whatsoever upon playback....My only complaint thus far with the RC50 unit at this point is the timestretch is unusable and that was the MAIN reason I bought it. Other then that this unit so far has proven to be more then I need but YMMV.On Feb 27, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Sjaak wrote:I've seen a lot of complaints about the RC-50 on this list. Imo the issue is caused by the loop quantize feature and infact it's documented in the 1.01 OS release notes. But if you carefully read the release notes the workaround is not to use the rhythmn mode. Let's first take a good look at the release notes.-----* Priority Given to Rhythm (Factory Default) *This preserves the performance rhythm from the time that recording started.When you operate the pedal, the performance-start location is adjusted and playback is started accordingly. Although it may sometimes sound as if playback has started from the middle of a phrase, from the following loop, playback takes place as recorded.* Priority Given to Sound *This starts playback from the beginning of the recorded data.Note, however, that for the rhythm guide, recorded phrases, or recordings synchronized with MIDI, playback starts with “Rhythm Priority.”-----What you have to do is this:- put your RC-50 in Sound Priority mode (see release notes for details)- do NOT use the Rhythm guide; this will turn the loop quantize feature on and causes the gapBtw: I've tested the issue 25 times today and imo above procedure avoids the problem. I hope this helps :)Sjaak---Scarlet One, ADSL 6 Mbps + Telefonie, vanaf EUR 29,95...http://www.scarlet.be/ Sean Mormelosean@seanmormelo.comwww.seanmormelo.comwww.myspace.com/seanmormelo
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200802/msg00521:Re: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues)
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3: RC-50 10: Subject: RC-50 20: mutual friend and enemy, the RC-50 ;) Scroll down to the RC-50 section on
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3: Re: RC-50 / RC50 delay issues 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 / RC50 delay issues 18: Thanks, Sjaak, I'll check that out. I also gree about looking at what the RC50 was intended for... if you preload it with tracks, it's unbeatable. I heard of a Flamenco style guitarist who used it to duel with himself, using preloaded tracks Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote: Although I'm not a "rebel" type of guy , this is my contribution of our mutual friend and enemy, the RC-50 ;) Scroll down to the RC-50 section on the page below, it also contains tips and workarounds for several issues.http://home.scarlet.be/gare-d-anvers/sjaak/livelooping.htmRegards,Sjaak---Scarlet One, ADSL 6 Mbps + Telefonie, vanaf EUR 29,95...http://www.scarlet.be/
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200802/msg00532:Re: workaround for gap in first loop? (was: Boss RC50 delay issues)
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42: maxed-out memory. Then I was considering the RC-50 until I heard so
3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 22: soon as I get a few moments with the RC-50 again -- I _have_ to do it
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200802/msg00574:Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues)
3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 30: > I'm down with this Tom... the RC-50, while my main looper at this
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3: Re: RC-50 / RC50 delay issues 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 / RC50 delay issues 23: >> I also agree about looking at what the RC50 was intended for... if you
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 18: Ok, maybe I'm being really stupid here. Is it possible to avoid the loop playback glitch entirely if you select 'sound priority mode'? I downloaded the update and because it had almost solved the problem, I assumed that was the fix - I didn't realise you had to perform a function first to get it to work. The midi sync isn't a problem for me so maybe it is better than I thought. Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote: Although I'm not a "rebel" type of guy , this is my contribution of our mutual friend and enemy, the RC-50 ;) Scroll down to the RC-50 section on the page below, it also contains tips and workarounds for several issues.http://home.scarlet.be/gare-d-anvers/sjaak/livelooping.htmRegards,Sjaak---Scarlet
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 24: of the loop, not the RC-50. That's the different with the 1.00 version.
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 18: Thanks, Sjaak, that's great. I've gone and sold mine now :-( I might have to get another. I can't believe I missed that. Perhaps it's not so bad after all. Out of interest, is anyone else holding their breath for the Boomerang 3 in favour of the RC-50? I know it's not available yet but it's supposed to be within two months I think. Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote: Stuart Masters wrote:> Ok, maybe I'm being really stupid here. Is it possible to avoid the loop playback glitch entirely if you select 'sound priority mode'?Yes. With the "sound priority" mode, you decide the start and end points of the loop, not the RC-50. That's the different with the 1.00 version. But keep in mind the RC-50 switches back to the old
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3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 35: >> I'm down with this Tom... the RC-50, while my main looper at this
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 25: default setting is saved. If you turn on the rhythm guide, the RC-50
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 21: really GREAT page on the RC-50 !
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3: Re: RC-50 alternatives 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 alternatives 18: Yeah, choice does seem pretty limited at the moment. Once again, thanks for all your pointers, Sjaak - I literally didn't have a clue that I could have made the RC-50 work for me. I've gone and sold it now. I think your RC-50 page could be really useful for any other potential/current users. Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote: Stuart Masters wrote:> Out of interest, is anyone else holding their breath for the Boomerang 3 in favour of the RC-50? I know it's not available yet but it's supposed to be within two months I think.Yes, I'm still thinking of replacing my RC-50. But the choice is limited if you are looking for something like the RC-50 + good midi sync, feedback control and good time/pitch stretching. I
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3: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 10: Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) 47: > >> I'm down with this Tom... the RC-50, while my main looper at this
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40: I am looking at the Boss RC-50 primarily, but I want to know what
3: BOSS RC-50 for sale 10: Subject: BOSS RC-50 for sale 19: Hi all - I have a BOSS RC-50 with BOSS power adapter I'd like to sell. I
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 for sale 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 for sale 21: >Hi all - I have a BOSS RC-50 with BOSS power adapter I'd like to sell. I
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3: Re: BOSS RC-50 for sale Oops! Meant RC-20 10: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 for sale Oops! Meant RC-20 18: Title: Re: BOSS RC-50 for sale Oops! Meant RC-20
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18: Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days.On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
18: Hi: I will be purchasing a Timefactor very shortly based on a couple of influences. The Guitarworld demo is very impressive - for my needs. It struck me as it is exactly what I'm looking for in my sound. I used to get similar results from other effects units (a la TC Electronics stuff). Also, I just "exercised" a Modfactor for a couple of weeks. I liked the Modfactor but when I heard the Timefactor (and balanced my funds/needs) I decided in its favor instead. There were a few echo effects on the Modfactor and I liked those very much as well. I guess it depends on what one is seeking in a delay pedal (per Bill Walkers comments). Regards, PavelTom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote: Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the RC-50 in the next couple of
55: results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days.
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18: Hi there,I've been lurking here since about 2000. And have been slowly graduating up the loop chain from DL4, to RC-20, to RC-50, and finally in the past month I was able to afford an Echoplex...thanks to that rad MF deal. I instantly was enamored with it! Anyways, to the topic at hand.
18: By the way, Merry Loop Day.Maybe I'm corny. But it's 3.14... as a looper, you gotta celebrate somehow, right?Last year, I got the rc-50. This year I joined this mailing list (albeit at 1am).
28: ...just finished modifiying my RC50 in order to achieve the ability to 29: use a parallel remote switchboard (for a second player using the RC50 at
20: > Last year, I got the rc-50. This year I joined this mailing list (albeit
22: fanciness -12 string acoustic baritone guitar to Zoom G2 to RC50 to
200804/msg00011:Re[2]: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY?
19: I run with a Boss RC-50, so I'm pretty much limited to 3 loops (though
200804/msg00013:Re[2]: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY?
20: RC-50. I guess I'm behind the game technology-wise as far as what's
200804/msg00458:Re: Why SHOULDN'T musicians be paid?
19: I have several types of gigs that I play. One is basic acoustic covers. 8 to 12 a month. This is with small pa, RC50, in rooms ranging from small to medium size pubs, to outdoor decks and beach bars. These pay $175 for 3 hours to $200 to $250 for 4 hours. Much more for Private and Corporate gigs. I also play more sophisticated rooms, college bars, lounges etc. This is more groove style music done with Ableton, SL and Logic, again solo. Acoustic and Electric guitars. Some beats, similer to Keller Williams but more electronic. I can slide original material in here. Same rates apply, but they are almost never 4 hours. They usually have the benefit of having a house PA. I do about 3 or 4 of these a month. The Third type of gig (and these are what allow me to not have a day job) are daytime gigs at rehab centers, retirement homes, hospitals etc. These are one hour, $150, a small amp, acoustic guitar and an RC2. I can do as many as 8 of these a week. These are oddly enough, the most rewarding spiritually for me. I know it sounds corny, but to make somebody's day who is in a bad way, is really great. These gigs material range from standards, to italian and irish songs, to basic acoustic covers. So yes, I've made some compromises that allow me to live off music. But it beats workin. I just wish I started doing this years ago. ChrisOn Apr 16, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote:A few questions: what sort of music are you playing, what sort of venues are you booked into, how large are your audiences, how many people do you perform with, and what's your idea of "fair" pay?TH On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote: I just want to show up to the gig, have some fun, play well, get some applause (yeah right), and get paid. Im 4 to 6 hours away from home. Away from my family, dealing with stingy club owners, drunk assholes who want to beatbox on my mic, driving late at night when the road is full of drunks. I feel I should be paid fairly, and I am, because I demand it. Is that simple. Chris
3: RC-50 10: Subject: RC-50 19: Any users on this list (of the RC-50 tee hee). I'm concentrating on
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 19: Hello Scott, yes - I'm a user of the RC50 (and love it). There are a lot
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 18: Hi there Scott,I have an RC-50. It is no longer my primary looper, because my style has changed somewhat. But I do employ it. Are you considering getting one, or are you looking for ideas of how to use an RC-50 you already have?
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3: Re: RC-50 (and the "glitch" revisited...) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 (and the "glitch" revisited...) 28: I was just thinking: It's been a couple of months since the RC-50
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3: Re: RC-50 (and the "glitch" revisited...) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 (and the "glitch" revisited...) 33: > I was just thinking: It's been a couple of months since the RC-50
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3: Re:RC-50 10: Subject: Re:RC-50 20: I recently added a RC-50 page to my web site.
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 26: ever do anything in our set without the RC-50.
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3: Re:RC-50 10: Subject: Re:RC-50 21: >I recently added a RC-50 page to my web site.
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 18: I was too impatient to get the music to load. Does it actually? On Apr 22, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Mech wrote:At 2:29 PM +0100 4/22/08, Sjaak wrote:Hi,I recently added a RC-50 page to my web site.http://home.scarlet.be/gare-d-anvers/sjaak/rc50.htmIt covers topics like:- Info about the "glitch" or "audio gap" issue- my personal review- How to create a feedback loopSweet! All the information one should need, in easy to follow steps, right there on a single page.Sjaak, do you have any objection to our giving out that URL to other interested parties?TIA! --m.-- _____"bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" --Solve et coagula.
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3: Re: Re:RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 19: Huh, this is really interesting. I got the RC-50 about 2 years ago, at a
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 34: > ever do anything in our set without the RC-50.
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3: Re: RC-50 (and the "glitch" revisited...) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 (and the "glitch" revisited...) 18: Agreed.Yes, I performed the update, and it reduces the glitch, but doesn't eliminate it. I do indeed have all the correct settings. I simply saved it as a blank patch, and then copied it into the next 20 memory slots. I'm sure other RC50 users do that, also. That way, when performing, and you want to change, you can just roll into the next patch...without having to set it up.
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 18: Hey Teddy K, I'm glad to see there's other East Coast loopers here. I live in NJ, just across the river. I'll have to check out your act.Anyways, don't get me wrong, the RC50 is great at that price, and I still use it. Its just that I have a hot temper, and the glitch drives me crazy. But I've accepted it.
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 31: > Anyways, don't get me wrong, the RC50 is great at that price, and I still
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 19: Okay, so I got the RC-50 to slave to incoming clock, but I'm stymied
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 19: sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... the RC-50 is useless if
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 49: my band almost always just makes up songs on the fly and we hardly ever do anything in our set without the RC-50.
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3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 19: > sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... the RC-50 is useless if
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18: Any opinions on effects processors? I'd like to be able to get a variety of tones and strange whatnots before the signal hits my RC-50.On Apr 25, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:Baggs M1A, THE best.On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Sam Nilsson wrote:Scott Kellogg wrote:Sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseum, but what's the guitar pickup all the cool kids are using these days? I have a Seagull cedar acoustic that plays really nicely and has a pleasant-but-average tone. I'm interested in processing the signal before it gets to my looper, and would like to be able to pick up taps and other percussive slaps on the body of the instrument.While we're on the topic, what you think of the new crop of 'acoustic guitar' processors that are on the market (e.g. the Fishman stuff, Korg, Boss, etc.)? My original plan was to loop with my electric basses, but my singer-songwriter groove is coming back, and maybe the guitar will be in my path as well as a bass. Then again, an acoustic guitar with an octaver makes good basslines.K&K Sound's Pure system has gotten positive reviews from people that I have met. When I tried it, I thought it had a nice fairly natural sound. *Much* nicer than a piezo.http://www.kksound.com/acousticguitar.html#pure- Sam --Solve et coagula.
18: I'm looking for a octaver with a clean sound that woud work with acoustic instruments, mics. Any suggestions?On Apr 26, 2008, at 5:18 AM, Toby G wrote:You just can't beat a whammy pedal. It's what keeps today's man happy. t----- Original Message -----From: Scott KelloggTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comSent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:06 PMSubject: Re: Guitar PickupAny opinions on effects processors? I'd like to be able to get a variety of tones and strange whatnots before the signal hits my RC-50.On Apr 25, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:Baggs M1A, THE best.On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Sam Nilsson wrote:Scott Kellogg wrote:Sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseum, but what's the guitar pickup all the cool kids are using these days? I have a Seagull cedar acoustic that plays really nicely and has a pleasant-but-average tone. I'm interested in processing the signal before it gets to my looper, and would like to be able to pick up taps and other percussive slaps on the body of the instrument.While we're on the topic, what you think of the new crop of 'acoustic guitar' processors that are on the market (e.g. the Fishman stuff, Korg, Boss, etc.)? My original plan was to loop with my electric basses, but my singer-songwriter groove is coming back, and maybe the guitar will be in my path as well as a bass. Then again, an acoustic guitar with an octaver makes good basslines.K&K Sound's Pure system has gotten positive reviews from people that I have met. When I tried it, I thought it had a nice fairly natural sound. *Much* nicer than a piezo.http://www.kksound.com/acousticguitar.html#pure- Sam--Solve et coagula.
19: Apparently the POG is goodOn 26 Apr 2008, at 09:05, doc rossi wrote:I'm looking for a octaver with a clean sound that woud work with acoustic instruments, mics. Any suggestions?On Apr 26, 2008, at 5:18 AM, Toby G wrote:You just can't beat a whammy pedal. It's what keeps today's man happy. t----- Original Message -----From: Scott KelloggTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comSent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:06 PMSubject: Re: Guitar PickupAny opinions on effects processors? I'd like to be able to get a variety of tones and strange whatnots before the signal hits my RC-50.On Apr 25, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:Baggs M1A, THE best.On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Sam Nilsson wrote:Scott Kellogg wrote:Sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseum, but what's the guitar pickup all the cool kids are using these days? I have a Seagull cedar acoustic that plays really nicely and has a pleasant-but-average tone. I'm interested in processing the signal before it gets to my looper, and would like to be able to pick up taps and other percussive slaps on the body of the instrument.While we're on the topic, what you think of the new crop of 'acoustic guitar' processors that are on the market (e.g. the Fishman stuff, Korg, Boss, etc.)? My original plan was to loop with my electric basses, but my singer-songwriter groove is coming back, and maybe the guitar will be in my path as well as a bass. Then again, an acoustic guitar with an octaver makes good basslines.K&K Sound's Pure system has gotten positive reviews from people that I have met. When I tried it, I thought it had a nice fairly natural sound. *Much* nicer than a piezo.http://www.kksound.com/acousticguitar.html#pure- Sam--Solve et coagula.
24: Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:06 PMSubject: Re: Guitar PickupAny opinions on effects processors? I'd like to be able to get a variety of tones and strange whatnots before the signal hits my RC-50.
19: does the RC20 have the same "glitch" as the RC50? 21: I was going to get an RC50, but now that I know about the problem, I
19: Before you cross the RC-50 off your list, attempt to try one out if you can. If you live near a Guitar Center, give it a go. The glitch doesn't seem to bother everybody. Plus, even with all its faults, the RC-50 has a three independent loops, with reverse, and volume control, etc. 21: does the RC20 have the same "glitch" as the RC50? 23: I was going to get an RC50, but now that I know about the problem, I am back to the drawing board. I'm looking at the Jamman and the Rc20 now, as entry level loopers. I really like that the Jamman has usb and flashcard memory. But how do you get stuff out of the RC20 if you want to?
200804/msg00830:my loss == your gain (tons of gear very cheap or free)
36: Boss RC-50 triple looper:
200804/msg00832:Re: my loss == your gain (tons of gear very cheap or free)
84: offer.Boss RC-50 triple looper: never really used,
3: Re: RC-50 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 19: Glad to see so many people are making good use of the RC-50. :)
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200804/msg00868:Pan Volume Pedal for Stereo Looping
25: With my RC-50, it would be really sweet to be able to pan the (mono) input
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20: the RC-50 24: and into my RC-50 from there... no problems... so, you'll probably 27: into the RC-50. The mic preamp on the RC-50 is not pannable, which 41: > With my RC-50, it would be really sweet to be able to pan the
200805/msg00035:Guitar Loopers: Your life is soo much easier!
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27: I actually started out when learning my way around the RC-50 with a
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200805/msg00049:phrase tempo problems when recording
18: Hello all! I have trouble when I record on my RC-50. When I try to loop something that I have loaded already on my RC-20 and let the RC-50 set the tempo automatically i run into trouble. I know the loop is tight because I played along with a good metronome and it plays perfectly on the RC-20 and yet if the loop is a couple of minutes long, when I am finished the tempo that is locked in as the phrase tempo on the RC 50 is nowhere NEAR the real tempo. It sounds fine, the loop is cleanly finished with an inaudible start stop point, but I can't use the stored tempo to then midi sync to my drum machine. I am using the RC 50 as the master. I noticed on short loops it seems to work fine. I have tried setting the tempo manually before hand and tapping along to set it, but nothing works. Any thoughts??
200805/msg00063:Re: Guitar Loopers: Your life is soo much easier!
200805/msg00066:Re: EH Hog/Pog/Micro Pog - was effects processors
26: RC50 but apprently there is a glitch that stops it looping and it
18: Hi Matt,afaik, the boomerang looper Mk2 is not available to buy in the UK. I have been following the development of the Mk3, but haven't had any firm assurances about it's likely to become available in the UK. It hasn't yet been released in the US. You could email Mike Nelson on the boomerang website http://www.boomerangmusic.com/ to see what is planned. I am certainly interested in this myself.StephenMatt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: Hey Team LopersHows it going guys - quick question - does anyone know if you can buy the boomerang looper anywhere in the UK - googled but no luck - any ideas?If not can anyone suggest a good alternative - I was considering the RC50 but apprently there is a glitch that stops it looping and it doesn't fade out
19: Would a USA one work ok over here?On 6 May 2008, at 17:57, Stephen Scott wrote:Hi Matt,afaik, the boomerang looper Mk2 is not available to buy in the UK. I have been following the development of the Mk3, but haven't had any firm assurances about it's likely to become available in the UK. It hasn't yet been released in the US. You could email Mike Nelson on the boomerang website http://www.boomerangmusic.com/ to see what is planned. I am certainly interested in this myself.StephenMatt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: Hey Team LopersHows it going guys - quick question - does anyone know if you can buy the boomerang looper anywhere in the UK - googled but no luck - any ideas?If not can anyone suggest a good alternative - I was considering the RC50 but apprently there is a glitch that stops it looping and it doesn't fade out the old sounds as you overdub new ones like on the DL4. Also I need a loop once button! (and to to be able to have 2 loops switchable and an undo button).I hope you can help as i really want to advance past the DL4 soundThanks in advanceMSPS The Looping podcast is coming soon!(time/wedding preporations are against me)Also anyone got any mastering service recommendations?www.mattstevensguitar.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
24: Particularily interesting is a retail price of below €400 (which might even drop some once it actually hits the market). That means IF Mobius does work on it properly, you can have an embedded version of Mobius which is cheaper than an EDP or Looperlative and costs about the same as a RC-50...
19: midi input with an external foot controller????On May 11, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote:The greatly diminished UI options between a PC-based VST host and one of these standalone boxes still seem significant for looping purposes. It sounds like they include and app to let you configure your favorite plug-ins on the your computer and then wrap them up for transfer to their box, but I don't see how a complex plug could be fully supported on a tiny screen with no mouse/keyboard input. THOn Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote: > The unit with the pedal looks particularly interesting. I > wonder if some Mobius users could look at it and discuss > wether or not Mobius would work with it. It looks really cool. Particularily interesting is a retail price of below €400 (which might even drop some once it actually hits the market). That means IF Mobius does work on it properly, you can have an embedded version of Mobius which is cheaper than an EDP or Looperlative and costs about the same as a RC-50...
44: than an EDP or Looperlative and costs about the same as a RC-50...
200805/msg00250:STOLE IDEA-here's an idea (behringer Tweakalizer)/went to guitar center
18: well, i think it was picasso who said good artists borrow ideas, GREAT ARTISTS STEAL IDEAS...there is a lot of discussion on this list, I think it's nice to see someone take those ideas and RUN w/ them!! here's an idea: hey BEHRINGER-i love the idea of that TWEAKALIZER effect you have: http://www.behringer.com/DFX69/?lang=ENGcould you make it w/ 1/4" phono plugs for ins/outs (stereo) so guitar players could use them???guess we'll see how long it takes them to put it out....ha!s---ps-actually went to local guitar center this weekend, played w/ a bit of gear (amongst all the budding loud metal heads demoing loud amps, etc). the spider jam seems like an interesting amp. didn't do the jam/sampling thing on it, but the models i scrolled through at low volumes sounded good.and i looked at the boss rc-50, man it looks like a complicated piece of gear for mr. simpleton here. it does look cool though.
200805/msg00252:Re: STOLE IDEA-here's an idea (behringer Tweakalizer)/went to guitar center
19: love the idea of that TWEAKALIZER effect you have: http://www.behringer.com/DFX69/?lang=ENGcould you make it w/ 1/4" phono plugs for ins/outs (stereo) so guitar players could use them???guess we'll see how long it takes them to put it out....ha!s---ps-actually went to local guitar center this weekend, played w/ a bit of gear (amongst all the budding loud metal heads demoing loud amps, etc). the spider jam seems like an interesting amp. didn't do the jam/sampling thing on it, but the models i scrolled through at low volumes sounded good.and i looked at the boss rc-50, man it looks like a complicated piece of gear for mr. simpleton here. it does look cool though. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now."Enemies are good for
27: and i looked at the boss rc-50, man it looks like a complicated piece of gear for mr. simpleton here. it does look cool though. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
22: at the Boss RC-50 Looper: 23: http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/index.html
36: Depending on what you want to perform, it may be worthwhile taking a look at the Boss RC-50 Looper:http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-50/index.htmlIt doesn't have the feature set of the "real" loopers like Looperlative or Mobius.It allows you to run three stereo loops i.e. synced in parallel or independently in sequence. You can overdub each loop and use additional Aux Sends.Depending on how deep you want to dive into the looping world initially, it may be a worth considering as a "first looper".Per has provided a great page where you can compare features:http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.phpDon't get lost in gear & tech stuff ! ;-)Buzap-- Ist Ihr Browser
200805/msg00731:Re: Splice 'em up FX Pedal (other than Echoplex)?
26: Now, I've started thinking myself: should I stick to my RC-50, get a
200805/msg00744:RE: Splice 'em up FX Pedal (other than Echoplex)?
20: > Now, I've started thinking myself: should I stick to my RC-50, get a
200805/msg00745:Re: Splice 'em up FX Pedal (other than Echoplex)?
35: > Now, I've started thinking myself: should I stick to my RC-50, get a
200805/msg00752:RE: Can Mobius do these tricks ("scenes")?
30: much what I want on the RC-50. But I wouldn't dare to risk such foot
200806/msg00124:Beginning looper - studio monitor, PA?
21: Just ordered a Boss RC-50 and am pretty excited. I find myself now 23: will likely be input for the RC-50? The options of the PA world are
200806/msg00126:Re: Beginning looper - studio monitor, PA?
23: Just ordered a Boss RC-50 and am pretty excited. I find myself now 25: will likely be input for the RC-50? The options of the PA world are
200806/msg00127:Re: Beginning looper - studio monitor, PA?
22: the rc-50 and a microphone. That's what I do for smaller gigs, guitar 23: and hammered dulcimer mic into the rc-50 and then out of the rc-50 37: >Just ordered a Boss RC-50 and am pretty excited. I find myself now 39: >will likely be input for the RC-50? The options of the PA world are
200806/msg00129:Re: Beginning looper - studio monitor, PA?
31: Likely will only need to amplify what I can plug into the RC-50. I
200806/msg00130:Re: Beginning looper - studio monitor, PA?
55: > Just ordered a Boss RC-50 and am pretty excited. I find myself now 57: > will likely be input for the RC-50? The options of the PA world are
200806/msg00227:RE: Let's play a game- it's called Imagine The Perfect Looper
43: Then there is the mid range: the RC-50, EH 2880, Boomerang. It is
200806/msg00234:RC-50: NEW feature!! A/B switching (like boomerang)
3: RC-50: NEW feature!! A/B switching (like boomerang) 10: Subject: RC-50: NEW feature!! A/B switching (like boomerang) 21: this is really true: I discovered another "feature" hidden in the RC-50!
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200806/msg00293:Re: OT: Getting that tube amp sound w/o a tube amp
20: Just a thought. But this is what I'm working towards with looping. It works well now with the RC50 but I have no idea how it will be if and when I upgrade to a better setup. I'm now pretty much convinced I'm gonna have to take the plunge into Powerbook land... but I don't wanna. After 25 years of using music software, I've developed a healthy fear of new programs.
200806/msg00299:RE: OT: Getting that tube amp sound w/o a tube amp
81: well now with the RC50 but I have no idea how it will be if and when I upgrade
200806/msg00319:Re: RC-50: NEW feature!! A/B switching (like boomerang)
3: Re: RC-50: NEW feature!! A/B switching (like boomerang) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50: NEW feature!! A/B switching (like boomerang) 21: >this is really true: I discovered another "feature" hidden in the RC-50!
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200806/msg00351:Re: RC-50: NEW feature!! A/B switching (like boomerang)
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200806/msg00654:hey all, new Baltimore member...electronic drum looper...
24: electronic drum kit, an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA
22: Still, I should mention: with my current crazy A/B switches on the RC-50,
200806/msg00771:Re: hey all, new Baltimore member...electronic drum looper...
26: electronic drum kit, an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA
200807/msg00004:Re: hey all, new Baltimore member...electronic drum looper...
30: electronic drum kit, an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA
200807/msg00005:Re: hey all, new Baltimore member...electronic drum looper...
35: electronic drum kit, an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA
200807/msg00007:Re: hey all, new Baltimore member...electronic drum looper...
68: >>>> an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA setup and minor (but
200807/msg00132:Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work
38: just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use
200807/msg00134:Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work
29: capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, Ijust can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part.
200807/msg00143:Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work
79: For some reason, Ijust can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50
27: traded some stuff for a RC-50 and I am quite happy with it. For the
200807/msg00149:Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work
58: capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, Ijust can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part.
200807/msg00164:Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work
68: capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, Ijust can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part.
200807/msg00165:Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work
144: RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use... the DD-20's have done what I
200807/msg00167:Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work
88: capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, Ijust can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part.
21: with the RC-50 you can define for each of the three loops (PHRASEs), if 23: However, personally I have connected an expression pedal to the RC-50 that
43: with the RC-50 you can define for each of the three loops (PHRASEs), if you 45: However, personally I have connected an expression pedal to the RC-50 that
200807/msg00400:Re: Boss DD-20 or Boss RE-20 twin pedals??
18: Hi there Marc,I had the DD-20 briefly. It is the only pedal I ever returned to Musicians Friend. I really despised the sound of the delays. Just my opinion.So you know I'm already biased, but for several other reasons, I don't like Boss/Roland. One of which being the "glitch" on my RC-50...(I changed over the EDP).
3: syncing an EDP to an RC-50 10: Subject: syncing an EDP to an RC-50 19: is it possible to time-sync an EDP to an RC-50? I'll do a gig with a
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3: Re: syncing an EDP to an RC-50 10: Subject: Re: syncing an EDP to an RC-50 33: If the tempo of the Rc-50 changes then the edp won't track that at all,
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200807/msg00479:Re: What would loopers do without power?
23: doing, I'm better of with my RC-50.
200807/msg00482:Re[2]: What would loopers do without power?
20: I still prefer it for classical music. But for the stuff I'm usually doing, I'm better of with my RC-50.
200807/msg00565:RE: Boss RC-2 tip -- AWESOME!! :-))
23: function will work just like on the RC-20XL & RC-50, which means:
200807/msg00584:Re: Boss RC-2 tip...now a question
33: I use that feature extensively on the RC-50. However, on the RC-20XL&RC-2,
28: I've used a DL4 and a RC-50 for looping, along with my pedalboard, into 51: computer i/o to act like a stompbox pedalboard and rc-50 looper. And
40: > I've used a DL4 and a RC-50 for looping, along with my pedalboard, 65: > get a computer i/o to act like a stompbox pedalboard and rc-50
29: using Two Lp-1’s and RC-50. The Lp-1’s had no problem syncing up as 34: midi sync record. The Boss RC-50, however would not sync up to an incoming 38: the manuals on line (without an RC-50 handy) and as far as I could tell, it 39: looks like you have to set the sync individually for each of the RC-50’s
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20: The RC-50 does not sync to an incoming midi clock alone, it also needs a 23: but the result is that the RC-50 will start recording or playing too...and 26: Btw: I have used both a LP1 and RC-50 with the RC-50 as the master, that 28: minor tap tempo changes from the RC-50 are OK.
200808/msg00506:Re: Line 6 JM4,M13 from Bill Walker
33: latest reply that the RC-50 won’t be doing that anytime soon. Here is the 43: RC-50 is intermittent. We alerted Roland/BOSS Japan to this, but have not heard
200808/msg00523:AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF
43: Using a very, very sparse setup that included a BOSS RC-50, a Lexicon
200808/msg00525:Re: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF
34: Using a very, very sparse setup that included a BOSS RC-50, a Lexicon reverb (couldn't tell but it
200808/msg00536:Re: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF
62: > Using a very, very sparse setup that included a BOSS RC-50, a Lexicon
200808/msg00537:RE: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF
21: Just watched her on Youtube while "working" ( yeah, right) WOW --She really is amazing! And that was just on 'tv'.> From: looppool@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:47:32 -0700> > Because I've produced the big loop fest in Santa Cruz for many years and > because> I've been fortunate to play several festivals in other countries over the > past five years,> I've had the great fortune to see some of the world's best live loopers do > their thing> in front of an audience.> > Tonight, I saw one of the most impressive shows I"ve ever seen a live > looper play.> I drove up to San Francisco and saw the Argentine singer/songwriter Juana > Molina> play to a sold out house at Yoshi's, SF, the beautiful jazz club on > Fillmore Street.> > Man, oh man, was it an amazing concert! I felt like jumping up and down > after watching it.> > This former famous television commediene in Argentina who gave up here life > to return to music> was firing on all cylinders.> > Using a very, very sparse setup that included a BOSS RC-50, a Lexicon > reverb (couldn't tell but it> looked like an older MXP-500), a Korg O1W synthesizer and a beautiful steel > string> acoustic guitar, she had seemless mastery of her looping.> > She also could go from playing almost childlike simple guitar/voice > compositions with a delightful and> very childlike voice to incredibly complex polyrhythmic multi-looped parts.> She also occasionally used really dense timbral loops against very simple > melodic parts and she also> used a lot of very, very complex modern and dissonant harmony against, yet > again, very simple> and memorable melodies.> > Her rhythm playing was impeccable on both guitar, keyboards and voice.> > She really did beautiful things with backing her voice up with loops that > were very wet, reverb wise against> a very dry initial vocal style.> > She did tunes that were so simple as to almost be confounding and then would > turn around and do a track that> have up to 10 or 12 loops on top of one another in a cacaphonous but > beautiful mass of sound.> > She even attemped one song in English............fucked up the lyrics (four > different times) and had the audience> shouting them to her (from the poem, The Love Song of Alfred Prusock by TS > Elliot) and yet> ended the song with the audience rooting for her and cheering that fact that > she made it through.> > I have to say I was incredibly impressed............as impressed as I've > ever been by anybody.> > She's a killer guitarist, a great rhythmatist (and this comes from a bit of > a rhythm snob here), a> beautiful and challenging timbralist (her synth designs were modern and edgy > but always simple)> and an engaging and frequently humorous performer.> > FIVE STARS on this puppy. Check here out> > Juana Molina > Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. Share now!
200808/msg00550:AW: open source stompbox--looper?
53: about the realm of a DL4 and less than a RC50.
200808/msg00551:Re: open source stompbox--looper?
47: about the realm of a DL4 and less than a RC50.
200808/msg00624:Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG?
49: participated in a collaboration and used my RC50 for on-the-fly
38: Not relevant but figured I'd send it anyhoo. For looping still using the RC50. Still looking for the right looper. Might be a dreaded laptop. Don't like to see folks doing the Spock onstage starting at laptops. (I should pay more attention to Kris and his rig!) 42: This winter hoping to spend more time with RC50 sync'd to sequences. We'll see how that goes. Doing another full on record this year so might not have time to do the heavy manual dance. Wish I could hire a tech to do the heavy lifting for me. Getting old.
22: OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually designed to be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper...think: JazzMutant Lemur crossed with Boss RC-50. The Korg Kaoss pad comes close in some respects, but I don't even use 75% of it's features, and the loops all have to be synchronized, and sometimes I do ambient things where I don't want everything on a grid. I had a Boss RC-50 for a while, which could do un-synched loops, but the interface wasn't right for me, too big, too many menus, etc... I know, I know... "Get the Lemur and build it in MAX!" you say, but I am NOT a software person. My current looping set-up is two Boss DD-20s into a Korg Kaoss pad, and with that I can get a lot of options covered, and even change loop lengths on the fly (albeit with some glitchy distortion), but if I could get a few more layers and few extra features (like changing loop start and end points on the fly, pausing and restarting individual loops in synched or un-synched ways) and all in one box (with a nice multi-touch-screen, prefereably), I would be all over it. I imagine that in the next few years, multi-touch-screens are going to become more common in music gear.
43: > JazzMutant Lemur crossed with Boss RC-50. The Korg Kaoss pad comes 47: > Boss RC-50 for a while, which could do un-synched loops, but the
60: >> JazzMutant Lemur crossed with Boss RC-50. The Korg Kaoss pad comes 64: >> Boss RC-50 for a while, which could do un-synched loops, but the
26: Simon's suggestion of the EH 2880 gave me pause, though. I am going to have a go at the manual, which I just printed out. I dismissed it a long time ago because I had the RC-50 at that time and there is no BPM readout on the 2880, but as long as it can deal with being a MIDI-clock slave, that should be no problem.
69: long time ago because I had the RC-50 at that time and there is no BPM readout
57: insert mode" (ala BOSS RC-50).
200808/msg00861:Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal
23: Roland Video Demo. Like after watching the RC50 demo, one would think
200809/msg00038:Re:New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
20: Welcome to the list. Have you checked the Boss RC-50? I've used it myself, 31: http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/rc50.htm
200809/msg00051:RE: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
21: I had looked at the Boss RC-50, but had avoided it for a few reasons. 34: If anybody has opinions on the actual live utility of the Boss RC-50, I'd 44: Welcome to the list. Have you checked the Boss RC-50? I've used it myself, 55: http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/rc50.htm
200809/msg00054:Re: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
19: I use it the RC-50 and quite like it. Roland did release a firmware 25: timing is still intact. I love the RC-50. My drum/guitar synth duo 26: has many improvised sections where I have the rc-50 programmed with 31: stopping. The RC-50 is reliable. Search Rico Loops in youtube or
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200809/msg00059:Re: RE: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
28: The RC-50 is really reliable. My experience/opinion is that people just
200809/msg00116:Re: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
22: a Boss RC-50. 25: links for using the RC-50?
200809/msg00131:RE: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
33: a Boss RC-50. 36: links for using the RC-50?
200809/msg00155:Re: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
22: Anyone else use the RC-50 and willing to share tips for effective use, 44: > a Boss RC-50. 47: > links for using the RC-50?
200809/msg00221:RC-50 starting off (RE: New Member - Buying Advice and OpinionsSought)
3: RC-50 starting off (RE: New Member - Buying Advice and OpinionsSought) 10: Subject: RC-50 starting off (RE: New Member - Buying Advice and OpinionsSought) 21: well, congrats to your RC-50 purchase. Feel free to ask questions here -
200810/msg00346:Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20?
38: consider the RC-50 for multiple loop capability although it doesn't
20: And a better hammered dulcimer/electric violin/flute one using Boss RC-50 Looping Station:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUDdob-Hew
23: Some hints on the RC-50 usage: 28: - Instead of running back and forth to RC-50 for switching things, you
200810/msg00395:Nice RC-50 performance: Jonny Wright
3: Nice RC-50 performance: Jonny Wright 10: Subject: Nice RC-50 performance: Jonny Wright 21: going through youtube & RC50, I liked this song performed by Jonny Wright:
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18: Hi Buzap!Great advice, thank you very much. I've only been using the RC-50 for about 6 months so really appreciate any hints and tips :) I agree with what you mentioned about the drum loop - definitely will be trying that out soon! The reason there is a huge disparity between the live mic/loop volumes is that the sound on the video is on camera only (i.e. not picking up the PA in the hall at audience level) ... we have a Pro Tools multi-track of the whole performance which we'll be syncing up some day! 19: I'm really interested in what you mentioned re foot switches - I have a similar problem when I want to activate my vocoder bypass and have just bought a switch for that, so I'll try it out on the RC-50 and see if it works :) 25: Some hints on the RC-50 usage: 28: - Instead of running back and forth to RC-50 for switching things, you could do the following: Connect up to 4 foot switches with long cables. You can assign the same command to 2 different pedals. This way, you could control the same functions from different locations.
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27: The more I think, the more I love my RC-50 ;-)
93: > tempting to save for a RC-50 and just have that inbetween the preamp
123: >> tempting to save for a RC-50 and just have that inbetween the preamp
150: >> tempting to save for a RC-50 and just have that inbetween the preamp
31: > RC-50 Looping Station:
30: And a better hammered dulcimer/electric violin/flute one using Boss RC-50 Looping Station:
200810/msg00842:Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? ("Pimp my RC-50")
3: Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? ("Pimp my RC-50") 10: Subject: Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? ("Pimp my RC-50") 25: I guess the real question for me is if my RC-50 will keep me still happy
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200810/msg00843:Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? ("Pimp my RC-50")
3: Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? ("Pimp my RC-50") 10: Subject: Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? ("Pimp my RC-50") 26: > I guess the real question for me is if my RC-50 will keep me still happy
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200810/msg00847:Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? ("Pimp my RC-50")
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200810/msg00849:Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? ("Pimp my RC-50")
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25: For the price of a rc50, it would be great to loop on such a portable PC.
200811/msg00047:Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50)
3: Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50) 10: Subject: Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50) 19: Hi Per & Apple/RC-50 folks
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200811/msg00054:Re: Y2K8: Software Loopers and Hardware Loopers
29: me thinks it's possible to hack a mail on a RC-50 but you have to stay
200811/msg00070:Re: Y2K8: Software Loopers and Hardware Loopers
200811/msg00079:Re: Y2K8: Software Loopers and Hardware Loopers
58: > to my RC-50 setup ;-)
200811/msg00165:WG: Y2K8: Software Loopers and Hardware Loopers
59: spot-on. Unless your setup is quite simple equipment-wise (say, RC-50 and a 71: say, a Boss RC-50, where you basically connect the guitar on one end, the
200811/msg00346:Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50)
3: Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50) 10: Subject: Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50) 26: > a pedal board case/bag for my RC-50 setup. (thanks very
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200811/msg00359:OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50)
3: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50) 10: Subject: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50) 36: >> a pedal board case/bag for my RC-50 setup. (thanks very
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200811/msg00423:Re: Line 6 M-13 and continuos controllers
18: all great ideas... From the comments the M13 product dev manager has made in the Line 6 forums there might actually be some sort of advanced version... AND no new features will be added to the current M13, just bug fixes. See the http://line6.com/M13 forum.Also, I don't think there is or ever will be any way to add an extra expression pedal through midi. The only midi control available is the same as what is there as exp inputs. That part is a little disappointing, like I said... but... the thing is kind of awesome anyway. There is a typo in the advanced users guide saying that there is separate loop volume available through midi, but it's not true.I've got midi clock sending from my RC-50 to the M13 tap tempo cc via a midi solutions product, "beat converter"... works great.On Nov 8, 2008, at 9:34 PM, William Walker wrote:Hi Teddy, what might be more likely to happen is a software revision or two because that is possible but it would have to be done via midi data dump from a computer, which ain’t no big deal. Actually it would be easy to add another expression pedal via mid with a product from midi solutions called the pedal controller which could add an extra expression pedal via the midi in without having to add a big midi controller to one’s rig.. The cool new thing that would also work is hot hand has announced a midi controller that uses there hand gesture activated technology. Imagine being able to control feedback intensity by pointing your finger at some fine fine lady in the front row Oh yeh, but seriously the hand thing is intriguing to me, imagine controlling panning speed with the speed of your strumming?Bill From: Teddy Kumpel [mailto:teddybut@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:33 PMTo: billwalker@baymoon.comSubject: Re: Line 6 M-13 and continuos controllers I agree Bill, I've been using the m13 for a couple of months now and it really is amazing. True that it doesn't have enough midi implementation or expression inputs, but I bet they come out with an m13 plus with more bells and whistles sometime in the next year. You can hear a whole lot of m13 in action on the downloads page on my website.Teddy Kumpelhttp://teddyjam.com
200811/msg00430:Re: Line 6 M-13 and continuos controllers
24: >I've got midi clock sending from my RC-50 to the M13 tap tempo cc via a 58: I've got midi clock sending from my RC-50 to the M13 tap tempo cc via a
200811/msg00432:Re: Line 6 M-13 and continuos controllers
28: > >I've got midi clock sending from my RC-50 to the M13 tap tempo cc
200811/msg00439:Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50)
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200811/msg00481:Re: OT: MacBook buying advice? (Pimp my RC-50)
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21: I have a RC50, but since using SL with Live, I am spoiled by seemless
200811/msg00711:Re: Question for Looper Pedal users
19: Hi, does anyone living in the U.S. have a Boss RC-50 in good condition 31: I have a RC50, but since using SL with Live, I am spoiled by seemless
200811/msg00717:RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
3: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 10: Subject: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 26: > rc-50, reverb, delay effects for a 1000 which seems like is the
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200811/msg00718:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
3: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 21: > I ended up not taking your advice though:) and going with the rc-50.
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27: chance to demo the Boss RC-50 for about 2 months and enjoyed it (even with
200811/msg00741:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
3: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 29: > (mic>channelstrip/mixer+compressor>Zoom>Reverb>RC-50)
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200811/msg00746:Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison)
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200811/msg00748:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
3: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 23: two expression pedals with the rc-50?
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3: RC50 for sale. 10: Subject: RC50 for sale.
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200811/msg00750:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
3: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 22: No, just 1 expression pedal possible on the RC-50.
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200811/msg00751:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
3: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 48: > No, just 1 expression pedal possible on the RC-50.
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200811/msg00753:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
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200811/msg00754:RC-50 vs. upcoming competition,the boomerang III
3: RC-50 vs. upcoming competition,the boomerang III 10: Subject: RC-50 vs. upcoming competition,the boomerang III 21: RC-50 but more compact and the resampling feature is what would sell it to
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200811/msg00755:Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison)
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200811/msg00756:Re: art as entertainment/experimental/avant-garde, etc
200811/msg00760:Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison)
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200811/msg00765:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
3: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison 19: yes, you can use 2 expression pedals with the RC-50, if you have them
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200811/msg00796:Re: RC-50 vs. upcoming competition,the boomerang III
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200811/msg00797:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
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200811/msg00798:Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison)
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200811/msg00819:Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: costcomparison)
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200811/msg00822:Re: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison
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200811/msg00855:Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison)
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200811/msg00869:RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume
3: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 10: Subject: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 19: I have some questions for any rc-50 users out there.
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200811/msg00871:Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume
3: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 50: also, there is an RC-50 forum on yahoo groups
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200811/msg00875:Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: costcomparison)
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200811/msg00879:Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume
3: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 70: > also, there is an RC-50 forum on yahoo groups
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200811/msg00899:Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume
3: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 24: So the RC-50 thinks you want it to be 4 bars long... weird. I have
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200811/msg00926:Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume
3: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 22: and I never change tempo RC-50.
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200811/msg00929:Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison)
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200811/msg00957:Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume
3: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 sub output vs. phones output volume 19: Great advice here. I've owned an RC-50 for a couple of years and
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200811/msg01012:Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison)
3: Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison) 10: Subject: Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost comparison) 33: > Subject: Re: Voicetone Create (was: RC-50 vs. Laptop Setup: cost
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3: Re: rc-50 a/b switch 10: Subject: Re: rc-50 a/b switch 22: Yeah, I mentioned the RC-50 A/B Switch ("Mixed Mode"):
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200812/msg00105:Re: effective mobius,mixer and soundcard routing
26: Well, I'm still stomping on my RC-50, mostly. So, I guess other people can
200812/msg00114:Re: effective mobius,mixer and soundcard routing
43: > Well, I'm still stomping on my RC-50, mostly. So, I
200812/msg00136:Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does not work!
3: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does not work! 10: Subject: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does not work! 18: Hi everyone!I'm an italian guitar player. I've got a Boss RC-50 Loop Station since 2006.As the title, i've a problem with this.Follow me:1. I record a pharse(4/4 120 btm) on pedal phrase one on patch one.
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200812/msg00148:Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does notwork!
3: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does notwork! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does notwork! 19: Yes, this is a basic problem with the RC-50. It was one of the biggest
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200812/msg00221:Re: Performing with Multiple Looped Sections
18: I do just that with my RC-50 :)-- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.comMySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh
200812/msg00222:Re: Performing with Multiple Looped Sections
19: Ableton Live. Many many many more options are available to you.I do just that with my RC-50 :)-- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.comMySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaleidoscope-design.co.uk
200812/msg00413:Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does notwork!
3: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does notwork! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It does notwork! 20: I've not yet updated my rc-50... I'm so disappointed too!
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200812/msg00437:Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It doesnotwork!
3: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It doesnotwork! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It doesnotwork! 21: > I've not yet updated my rc-50...
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200812/msg00458:Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context.....what gear do u use?
24: I'm currently playing with a guitarist who is using a RC50 and was
200812/msg00507:Re: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It doesnotwork!
3: Re: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It doesnotwork! 10: Subject: Re: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. It doesnotwork! 20: This week end i will upgrade my rc-50 and perform more tests.
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200812/msg00538:Re: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. Itdoesnotwork!
3: Re: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. Itdoesnotwork! 10: Subject: Re: Re: Boss RC-50. Switcing Patch on stage. Loop End mode. Itdoesnotwork! 38: I don't know where to get any blue prints or source code for the RC-50. I
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19: With my current looping set up, I use an RC-50 with guitars, vocals
37: > With my current looping set up, I use an RC-50 with guitars,
200812/msg00703:Re: RC-20XL Live vs. other loopers
20: I have a Boss RC-50 and love it. I am not sure if it can do exactly what you are asking but you should go to their site and download the manual and look at it; it IS a serious piece of looping equipment, even if I have not taken the time to be able to utilize everything it is capable of doing. I like it far more than many on this site do. 3 stereo tracks of looping and 99 (at least in theory) of user phrases sold me!!!
200812/msg00732:Re: RC-20XL Live vs. other loopers
26: Repeater would work the way you anticipated. What you can do on the RC-50:
21: Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for my first looper.Features I need in a looper are:-syncronization with an external MIDI-clock-at least 2 minutes of looping time-relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard)I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI are either gigantic or rack-mountable, and what I need is a pedal with a not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if it exists, but i suspect that if it does, one of you will know. Hoping for replies!Martin, NorwaySe dem på MSN® Video. Dagens mest populære klipp!
53: out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the 54: RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI are either
45: > I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 47: > have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've
74: out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the 75: RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI are either
115: RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for
18: I'm using Ableton Live as the master. The problem is "warbly" pitch problems. I didn't notice it at first after the firmware update and thought it was fixed. But then I realised I was testing it with my bass through many effects pedals that didn't show up the problem. I tried clean bass and it was very obvious. At this point I don't use it live yet because of this problem. I'm still using the tap tempo on my rc20xl to "sync" untill I can find a solution. Alicia-----"Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote: -----To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>Date: 01/06/2009 11:32AMSubject: Re: Looper with MIDI-syncHi Alicia, what are you using for the master clock? what do you mean by audio stretch problems? I was just playing with it and when in slave to a Boss dr 670 it syncs perfectly if I have ext.clock and quantize engaged. When I put it into reverse as a slave it does go out of sync until restarted. It seems to loose a beat in the transition. When it's master it stays locked forward or reversed . I rarely use the drum machine and mostly only for practice. I have found that having the 'quantize" button engaged is needed for it to sync to a machine. Hope that helps some.... best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync Hey! I have a 2880 too and I am still having audio stretch problems when using it as a midi slave, even after the firmware update! I am really happy with it apart from that. Do you have any tips Jeff. Is there a particular method of operation as a slave that you follow to combat this problem? I would also be interested in any suggestions from anyone for loopers that are stable as midi slaves. Alicia. : ) -----"Jeff Duke" < jeff_d@embarqmail.com > wrote: ----- To: < Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> Date: 01/06/2009 08:37AM Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync Check out the Electro Harmonix 2880, it works as either master or slave. The only issue I had with it as slave was fixed with the firmware update. http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Electro-Harmonix/2880/10/1 http://www.ehx.com/products/2880 The optional footswitch is needed also for hands off operation. I love mine, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Almagro Tonne To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: Looper with MIDI-sync Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for my first looper. Features I need in a looper are: -syncronization with an external MIDI-clock -at least 2 minutes of looping time -relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard) I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI are either gigantic or rack-mountable, and what I need is a pedal with a not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if it exists, but i suspect that if it does, one of you will know. Hoping for replies! Martin, Norway Se dem på MSN® Video. Dagens mest populære klipp! No virus found in this incoming message. 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178: I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the 179: RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other
200901/msg00545:boss rc-50 vs electro harmonix 2880
3: boss rc-50 vs electro harmonix 2880 10: Subject: boss rc-50 vs electro harmonix 2880 22: proably worng place to psot,but man frustrated the boss rc -50 jsut sucks in many areas. it jsut wont sync to naything and hardly to itself. I jsut replaced it with an electro harmonix 2880 and that thing sycns and works great. will we ever see an update form the roland folks for the rc-50 I doubt it. man I see them in stores on consignment for $100-200 haha, they really are sad.
200901/msg00684:Re: Sooperlooper or Mobius? Going back to software.
56: In the past, I never could sync my RC50 to the laptop -- likely the 71: otherwise aren't sync'd. I've been messing with my RC50 -- sending 72: MIDI CLOCK from the RC50 to my analog (modular) synth's MIDI to CV 76: RC50, tracks all the tempo changes, etc.
3: RC-50 positives 10: Subject: RC-50 positives 21: Experience with RC-50, focusing on the positives.
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200901/msg01029:Re: odd meters using track speed toggling
28: Whish my RC-50 could do this....
200901/msg01038:Re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
18: Which else looper but rc50 can give you three _asychronous_ loops with that little money? 2880 loops have the same length, am i wrong?And rc-50 can be a midi master just fine!2009/1/24 L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
200901/msg01039:Re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
25: Yes the RC is cheaper,but the price of the RC-50 was just as high at the 33: http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Boss/RC-50+Loop+Station/100/1 37: but i never used the RC-50 so you will be the judge! 49: > Which else looper but rc50 can give you three _asychronous_
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200901/msg01040:Re: odd meters using track speed toggling
45: > Whish my RC-50 could do this....
200901/msg01042:Re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
51: Which else looper but rc50 can give you three _asychronous_ 53: wrong?And rc-50 can be a midi master just fine!
200901/msg01043:re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
21: I'm not the most objective as I have not the expereince with other loopers. I do feel the RC-50 25: if the RC-50 would sync to it's own kind. I have heard the problem is in using the midi in. I haven't 26: had a need as my DR-5 syncs to the RC-50 just fine. If I do use 2 units I would set them up in single-mode and use the second unit to bring in multi-mode.
200901/msg01044:Re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
21: I also had a session once with another rc50 guy, and it took us some time to sync them, but once set, everything was ok. 34: I'm not the most objective as I have not the expereince with other loopers. I do feel the RC-50 gets a bad rap in reviews due to it's complexity, and over-hyped by it's own liturature. I like the way the midi out works for me. The place I got mine has another and I would like to see 35: if the RC-50 would sync to it's own kind. I have heard the problem is in using the midi in. I haven't had a need as my DR-5 syncs to the RC-50 just fine. If I do use 2 units I would set them up in single-mode and use the second unit to bring in multi-mode.
200901/msg01045:Re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
49: I also had a session once with another rc50 guy, and it took us some time 68: loopers. I do feel the RC-50 gets a bad rap in reviews due to it's 71: like to seeif the RC-50 would sync to it's own kind. I have heard the 73: to the RC-50 just fine. If I do use 2 units I would set them up in
200901/msg01046:Re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
51: I also had a session once with another rc50 guy, and it took us some time 68: loopers. I do feel the RC-50 gets a bad rap in reviews due to it's 71: like to seeif the RC-50 would sync to it's own kind. I have heard the 73: to the RC-50 just fine. If I do use 2 units I would set them up in
200901/msg01047:RE: odd meters using track speed toggling
57: > Whish my RC-50 could do this....
200901/msg01048:Re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
89: I also had a session once with another rc50 guy, and it took us some 109: loopers. I do feel the RC-50 gets a bad rap in reviews due to 112: and I would like to seeif the RC-50 would sync to it's own kind. I 114: as my DR-5 syncs to the RC-50 just fine. If I do use 2 units I would set
200901/msg01054:RE: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
32: matter of setting up the RC-50 in the manner in which you described? 95: 12.0pt'>I also had a session once with another rc50 guy, and it took us some 181: loopers. I do feel the RC-50 187: if the RC-50 would sync to it's own kind. I have heard the problem is in using
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200901/msg01061:Re: Best hardware (pedal) looper?
24: The Boss RC-50 has a lot of possibilities and some limitations. It is not
200901/msg01079:Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live
3: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 10: Subject: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 28: Live or Mobius to loop in the manner I am used to with my RC-50. What
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200901/msg01082:Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live
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200901/msg01088:Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live
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3: Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 10: Subject: Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 36: > Were you slaving the RC-50 from Live or was it slaved to a drum machine?
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3: RE: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 10: Subject: RE: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 29: > loops and delay fx and whatnot in Ableton. My RC-50 was always the
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3: Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 10: Subject: Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 32: reason for ditching the RC-50. The manual says something that made me
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3: Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 10: Subject: Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 24: > techniques for this but I wasn't aware the RC-50 had them.
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3: Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 10: Subject: Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live 50: >> techniques for this but I wasn't aware the RC-50 had them.
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3: Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: Need help with RC-50 20: his RC-50.
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3: Re: Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Need help with RC-50 21: > his RC-50.
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3: Re: Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Need help with RC-50 19: Maybe I'm missing something here, but I used to use my RC-50 in a way
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3: Re:Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: Re:Need help with RC-50 20: I owned one and have documented some of the RC-50 features on my website.
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3: Re: Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Need help with RC-50 19: >> Maybe I'm missing something here, but I used to use my RC-50 in a way
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3: Re: Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Need help with RC-50 19: Hi RC-50 Loopers
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3: RE: Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: RE: Need help with RC-50 23: > Cable. Have you tried that with your RC-50?
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3: re: needing help with rc-50 10: Subject: re: needing help with rc-50 21: Feed back loop is possible with the rc-50.
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3: Re: Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Need help with RC-50 23: >> Cable. Have you tried that with your RC-50?
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3: Re: Need help with RC-50 10: Subject: Re: Need help with RC-50 35: I used the rc-50 as follows:
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92: 28802. Boss RC503. Looperlative LP-14. BE RiffBox5.
200902/msg00625:Re: Live Looping: it pops up everywhere
46: these products.>> 1. EH 2880> 2. Boss RC50> 3.
31: I own the LP1 and the RC50. Here are my observations: 33: RC50 Best features: 55: RC50 Worst features: 67: RC50 Summary:
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32: > I own the LP1 and the RC50. Here are my observations: 34: > RC50 Best / Worst features: 37: > RC50 Summary: 39: > The RC50 is a good all-around, stand-alone looper and master clock
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200903/msg00230:Re: First post - newbie advice wanted
68: what you are looking for i guess is the Boss RC-50,there are a lot of
3: Boss RC-50 for sale 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 for sale 21: I've got my Boss RC-50 loopstation up for sale. I'm funding another piece
200903/msg00683:Re: There already IS a looping Forum - Tagging
27: - "Midi slave problem [RC50]"
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26: - "Midi slave problem [RC50]"
25: RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in the world, but if you spend
26: but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! 60: > RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in the
45: > but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! 79: >> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in the
25: I'm especially happy to have an RC-50 proponent with us on the boat 27: Even if the RC-50 is not the most powerful looper, it has a few surprising 30: Good to see you're using the RC-50 in the field so much.
43: I, confess, I was also one who thought your claims about the RC50 might
65: > > but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! 100: > >> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in
70: > > but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! 105: > >> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in
21: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricoloop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music 79: >>> but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! 114: >>>> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in
37: >http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricoloop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music
34: >http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricoloop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music 92: >>>> but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! 127: >>>>> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in
21: if i would have seen this demo i would have probably bought the RC50 a 43: >http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricoloop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music 109: > >>> but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! 148: > >>>> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful
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200903/msg00874:Re: was introducing myself :) NOW RC-50
3: Re: was introducing myself :) NOW RC-50 10: Subject: Re: was introducing myself :) NOW RC-50 20: into midi in of the RC-50 and program the pedal to do CURRENT
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23: On the RC-50 - besides from MIDI controls - you can assign an external 31: On the RC-50, you can switch on Fade-In and Fade-Out for starting/stopping 39: I find Rico's setup has a charming effect. My RC-50 has all these cables &
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200903/msg00897:Re: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender
27: The more I hear such stories, the more I love my RC-50 ;-)
200903/msg00989:Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions
21: Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? I was just working
200903/msg00993:Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions
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200903/msg00994:Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions
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200903/msg00996:Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions
19: Guess not. I'm no RC-50 specialist and don't aspire becoming one 20: either. But whatever you can do with the RC-50 you can always stutter 52: >> Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? I was
200903/msg00997:Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions
24: > Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50?
200903/msg00999:Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions
19: Ok, I apologize for my post. I just Googled the price for an RC-50 and 37: >> Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50?
200904/msg00044:Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced
20: shit i gotta get an RC-50 and some cowboy boots
200904/msg00431:using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine
3: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine 10: Subject: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine 28: font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I’m planning on using the boss rc-50
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3: Re: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine 10: Subject: Re: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine 21: I think it would be better to use the RC50 as midi master (if possible),
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3: RE: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine 10: Subject: RE: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine 20: been trying to sync with midi to my rc-50, gut no luck so far having the
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33: issue I’ve had was with an RC-50 and I believe that was pilot error or 34: the RC-50’s inability to follow a midi clock source. Though it has
200904/msg00810:Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50?
3: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 10: Subject: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 26: - Or should I just loop on my RC-50 (midi sync/no sync)?
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3: Re: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 10: Subject: Re: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 37: > - Or should I just loop on my RC-50 (midi sync/no sync)?
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3: Re: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 10: Subject: Re: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 25: > If you want to use the RC-50 I
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3: Re: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 10: Subject: Re: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 20: > I've never tried it. But from what I hear, the RC50 doesn't like being
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3: Re: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 10: Subject: Re: Ableton 8 tandem looping or RC50? 20: > I've see an RC50 do well as sync Master
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200905/msg00005:RE: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine
3: RE: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine 10: Subject: RE: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine 20: not recommended, that is have the 670 master to the rc-50. Since it's
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3: RC-50 newbie question 10: Subject: RC-50 newbie question 21: A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here
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3: Re: RC-50 newbie question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question 32: > A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here
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3: Re: RC-50 newbie question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question 22: a big reason I bought the rc-50....the ability to send a "loop only"
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3: Re: RC-50 newbie question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question 56: >> A friend just loaned me a Boss RC-50 to check out. Does anyone here
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3: Re: RC-50 newbie question 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 newbie question 32: on/off for each of the three PHRASES (=loops) in the RC-50.
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200905/msg00601:Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter
78: I also have an RC50 here, so expect some comments on that.
200905/msg00604:Re: Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter
86: > I also have an RC50 here, so expect some comments on that.
22: Boss RC-50 has a specific "Overdub Mode" for this.
3: RC-50 Impressions 10: Subject: RC-50 Impressions 19: I had an RC-50 here for a couple of days, enough for a rough evaluation.
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3: Re: RC-50 Impressions 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions 44: I find the RC-50 useful when I need a way to build drones, etc....
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3: Re: RC-50 Impressions 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions 32: If I recorded a new phrase when one was playing, the RC-50
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3: RE: RC-50 Impressions 10: Subject: RE: RC-50 Impressions 19: i've been using an RC-50 for a year now. set it up with a number of looped
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38: > Boss RC-50 has a specific "Overdub Mode" for this.
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3: Re: RC-50 Impressions 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 Impressions 27: The RC-50 has it's strenghts and weaknesses. But it also certainly has
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19: I have an RC-20 (not RC-20XL) that I haven't used since I got an RC-50.
200906/msg00205:OT: Firewire is back on MacBook 13"!
30: The Boss RC50 is the closest in terms of features except for the lack of
41: Apart from the Boss RC-50, EH 2880, or Blackline Engineering
3: RC-50 multiple outputs? 10: Subject: RC-50 multiple outputs? 18: Hey everyone, Brand new to this list, but not to looping. I've been using an RC-50 for a little over a year now and it's been great, however I have a question that I can't find the answer to anywhere.
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3: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 19: From: Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com>Subject: RC-50 multiple outputs?To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comDate: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:02 PM
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3: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 18: Sorry, maybe I wasn't completely clear.The RC-50 has multiple inputs (instrument, aux, mic), and I'm wondering if I can specify which inputs go to which outputs (main, sub)?I know that I can specify where each phrase goes, but I use multiple instruments per phrase and I want to be able to separate them so my guitar and go through my amp, and the aux/mic can go through a PA.
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3: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 18: so you are talking about using it as a live mixer? I think the RC-50 is designed to loop in stereo and then mix the input phrases for stereo both in main and sub outputs.. I have not used it so much as a live mixer sorry!! I'm sure some other folks in Loopers Delight will be more helpful.
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200906/msg00563:Re: Newb question about looping gear
3: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 18: Exactly!I use it live, but having all inputs going to the same sound source either compromises my guitar tone, or my keys tone. It is very frustrating.Check out the tunes http://www.bewaretheleopard.comDon't forget to sign up for the mailing listFrom: Marc Marshall Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:55:25 -0700 (PDT)To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs?so you are talking about using it as a live mixer? I think the RC-50 is designed to loop in stereo and then mix the input phrases for stereo both in main and sub outputs.. I have not used it so much as a live mixer sorry!! I'm sure some other folks in Loopers Delight will be more helpful.Marc Marshall "I am human, I am large, I contradict myself" .....and then some --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com> wrote:From: Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com>Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs?To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comDate: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:30 PMSorry, maybe I wasn't completely clear.The RC-50 has multiple inputs (instrument, aux, mic), and I'm wondering if I can specify which inputs go to which outputs (main, sub)?I know that I can specify where each phrase goes, but I use multiple instruments per phrase and I want to be able to separate them so my guitar and go through my amp, and the aux/mic can go through a PA.On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marc Marshall <agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com> wrote:okay, you know you can control where they come out and you are cool with that, so why are you concerned with the input? Or am I missing something in your question? --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com> wrote:From: Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com>Subject: RC-50 multiple outputs?To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comDate: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:02 PMHey everyone, Brand new to this list, but not to looping. I've been using an RC-50 for a little over a year now and it's been great, however I have a question that I can't find the answer to anywhere. I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able to separate what comes out. I want to be able to send the guitar to my guitar amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the PA. Is this possible? I know I can send the phrases independently to each output, but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input goes. Cheers,Alex-- My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list!-- My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list!
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3: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 23: You have the following possibilities with the RC-50:
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3: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? 34: > You have the following possibilities with the RC-50:
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200906/msg00660:Is there a way to back up a single RC-50 patch?
3: Is there a way to back up a single RC-50 patch? 10: Subject: Is there a way to back up a single RC-50 patch? 20: associated with RC-50 patches. I also understand that it is possible to
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18: The Tech 21 Blonde is a killer pedal. I've been using it in front of my RC-50 at gigs where taking my fender deluxe is impractical. It's doing a great jobCheck out the tunes http://www.bewaretheleopard.comDon't forget to sign up for the mailing listFrom: mark@grubmah.comDate: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:58:18 -0700To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Subject: RE: MY NEW TOYThe Tech21 character series pedals seem pretty good. I got a Blonde and a Liverpool last week. I haven't had as much time to play with them as I would like, but they ought to sit nicely in the effects loop of an M13. (That pairing was Bill's suggestion a while back.)The M13 seems like the natural evolution of the Line6 stompbox modelers. It makes it easy to play with combinations of effects just as the individual modelers did and more or less recreates the pedal board effect. The effects are interesting but not deeply interesting. The Vortex has more interesting effects, but it's a pain to program, a pain to switch effects on (relatively speaking), and frequently noisy. For example, Line6's tremolos are nice but they aren't the Shimmer effect from the Vortex. Having tempo sync for the effects is nice, but I don't think the M13 will sync to MIDI clock (feh, since the device does have MIDI). The looper improves on the DL4 but I think it's mono and there isn't the option of having it generate tempo information for the effects.What would be really cool (not going to happen) would be for Line6 to take essentially this same form factor and build a multi-looper with it possibly with a couple of post-loop effects available as well. An M13, a "Loop 13", and a couple of Tech21 pedals could make for a powerful and portable rig.Mark
200907/msg00000:Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
3: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 10: Subject: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 18: Hello List,I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions:- Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy?- With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in?Thanks for your feedback!
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200907/msg00001:Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
3: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 10: Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 19: I can't comment on the RC-50 but I'm on your website and it's quite
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200907/msg00007:Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in liverigs?)
3: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in liverigs?) 10: Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in liverigs?) 26: > - Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy?
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200907/msg00021:Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
3: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 10: Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 19: 10pt;">From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comSent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:59:10 PMSubject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
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200907/msg00037:Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
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200907/msg00039:Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
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200907/msg00040:RE: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
3: RE: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 10: Subject: RE: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 32: shell of the plugs at each end of a MIDI cable, discard it.> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:32:20 +0200> Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)> From: moinsound@googlemail.com> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com> > > - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers,> > compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how> > have you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in?> > Noise creeps in from different sources, they mainly being:> a) components in the chain which generate noise on your signal lines> b) components in the chain which pick up noise from elsewhere (aka EMI)> > With that come some suggestions in unordered fashion:> > 1. "that what Andy calls gain staging"> Generally, noise (of type a) in a device is something independent of> the level of your input signal. However, what we usually find annoying> is not the amount of that noise floor, but more the signal to noise> ratio (SNR - where big means good). We can increase that ratio either> by reducing the noise floor (which may not be possible) or by> increasing the signal level.> Practically, make sure that your full-level signal makes full use of> the headroom for every device in your chain by adjusting the input> level properly.> > 2. MIDI> MIDI istelf, of course, has nothing to do with your audio signal.> However, MIDI cabling can in a lot of cases generate ground loops.> There is a simple workaround: remove the shield on one end of your> MIDI cable. The signal transmission remains intact, but the hum (which> runs over the shield) can be cured.> Should not be used for overtly long MIDI lines, and it also makes> sense to use MIDI cabling to spec (i.e. twisted pair)> > 3. dynamic effects> This somehow relates to (1) above. Turn of the output when you don't> have any input signal (i.e. use a gate), and use compressors/limiters> in front of critical devices to increase the signal level you can hit> the device with and thus the SNR.> > 4. noise and EQs> The most disturbing noise is usually in the region around 7kHz (+/-).> The reason: there's not a high level of wanted signal to mask the> noise, thermal noise (aka the thing we usually have in electronics as> the dominant noise source) is very strong here, and the sensitivity of> the human ear is still very high in that range.> So if you have the need for an EQ in your signal chain where you boost> that frequency range specifically, put it way in front of the signal> chain, so noise generated by the following devices will not be> amplified further. Conversely, if you need to attenuate that range,> put the EQ as far to the end of the chain.> (nb: effects can be swapped freely in case of linear time invariant> devices or linear time variant devices in combination with devices> which "don't do time stuff themselves", like delays. So you can put an> EQ either before or after a delay or modulated delay without any> change, but not before or after a distortion (because that not being> linear).> > 5. signal chain vs. signal array> Use a mixer, and mute all unused channels. Avoid chained effects> wherever possible.> > 6. reduce air-bound EMI> keep audio lines away from transformers (especiallly the cheap> transformers). use symmetrical wiring wherever possible.> > 7. digital domain> If not avoiding this domain completely, stay in the digital domain as> long as possible. Best yet, use a computer in combination with some> decent A/D/A.> > Best,> > Rainer> Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. Get it on your BlackBerry or iPhone.
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200907/msg00042:Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
3: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 10: Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 18: Margaret,I used the RC-50 significantly on my last release without noise issues. I was very conscious about using the bare minimum gear required for a track in the signal path and not boosting either the input or output volume on the RC-50. Good results.On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM, margaretnoble<margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:> Hello List,>> I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions:>> - Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy?>> - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers,> compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have> you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in?>> Thanks for your feedback!>> http://margaretnoble.net/> All the best,Loren Claypoolgenre-indifferent instrumental guitar musicwww.lorenclaypool.com and links from there
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200907/msg00045:Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
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200907/msg00172:Re: Oberheim Echoplex Footswitch Momentary Switch Replacement Parts?
25: does, but the DD-20 does not. And how is that RC-50? Am I overlooking
200907/msg00173:Re: Oberheim Echoplex Footswitch Momentary Switch Replacement Parts?
37: > DD-20 does not. And how is that RC-50? Am I overlooking another option?
200907/msg00240:Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)
3: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 10: Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) 21: the RC-50 is one of the most transparent pieces of audio hardware in my
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200907/msg00373:Re: What happened to my repeater ? !
3: RC50 10: Subject: RC50
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200907/msg00719:What are the current probs w/RC-50?
3: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 10: Subject: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 21: about the RC-50 in terms of dropouts, glitches, etc.
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200907/msg00807:Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?
3: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 10: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 19: Buy the RC-50! The Digitech may be good too but has no
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200907/msg00824:RE: What are the current probs w/RC-50?
3: RE: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 10: Subject: RE: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 20: Check out my rc-50 FAQ on my site:
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200907/msg00829:Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?
3: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 10: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 48: w/RC-50?
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200907/msg00832:Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE?
3: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? 10: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? 22: my limited RC-50 observations noted that while
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200907/msg00837:Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?
3: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 10: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 20: Very informative for new users of the RC-50.
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200907/msg00839:Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE?
3: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? 10: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? 31: > my limited RC-50 observations noted that while
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200907/msg00847:Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?
3: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 10: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 20: > Very informative for new users of the RC-50.
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200907/msg00888:Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?
3: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 10: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? 21: though I can't say for certain, I would say that the RC-50 is useable if
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200907/msg00896:Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE?
3: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? 10: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? 19: > I'm unable to check the above, I only had the RC-50 for a day or so on
18: I'm a newbie looper interester.Now I'm looking for some looper to experiment some voice (I'm a singer)I saw RC50 , RC20 , Gibson EDP , Jamman , Akai Headrush E2I don't know which one suit for me.I just wanna get something not too expensive and can try many loop as I can (,y only instrument I'm gonna use is my voice) recording my songs - transfer to computer or record to computer. Haven't think too live performance
55: singer)I saw RC50 , RC20 , Gibson EDP , Jamman , Akai
200908/msg00057:Re: Boss looper contest in Germany
43: have to stick with my dinky little RC-50 toy until then...
200908/msg00059:Re: Boss looper contest in Germany
24: I'm very happy looping with the "cheap" Boss RC-50 Loopstation myself. 26: every opportunity. Further, discussions on the RC-50 are very welcome and
200908/msg00060:Re: Boss looper contest in Germany
47: > I'm very happy looping with the "cheap" Boss RC-50 50: > Further, discussions on the RC-50 are very welcome and
200908/msg00063:Re: Boss looper contest in Germany
28: RC50 and use Mobius instead (free software). ;)
200908/msg00077:Re: Boss looper contest in Germany
26: Sell my RC-50! No way! However, that does not mean I am not open to 55: > RC50 and use Mobius instead (free software). ;)
200908/msg00088:RE: Boss looper contest in Germany
41: The Boss RC-50 is an improvement but as it turns out, a feedback control
21: the bottom-line on the RC-50 for me seems to be: 29: PS: So many RC-50 postings... - I'm happy :-)
200908/msg00113:Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please...
18: I fall in love with the LOOP things after watch some youtubes. I wanna use it with my voice, only voice no other instument.Then, I found this social! hahahaSo, I wanna testing some of it. However in Thailand there's only Boss - ex.RC-50 RC20XLand Digitech Jamman to try in the shopI don't wanna get too advance gear but if it's worth for creating loops and maybe live performance, I will. Gibson EDP will be my top list but just only it's a bit expensive for beginner like me who's not that sure about looping life that muchand I'm wonder if it's too advance or complicate than RC-50 or JAMMAN or not. (I prefer Jamman if compare to RC20XL just because of the XLR for microphone)about the RC-20 and Akai Headrush I've read many review and it's not so suitable with the vocal looper? Are they right?or I should try
200908/msg00114:RE: Boss looper contest in Germany
72: > The Boss RC-50 is an improvement but as it turns out, a
85: > I saw RC50 , RC20 , Gibson EDP , Jamman , Akai
200908/msg00129:Re: Best Vocal Looper Beginner Suggestion please...
41: > ex.RC-50 RC20XL 49: > and I'm wonder if it's too advance or complicate than RC-50 or JAMMAN or
200908/msg00173:Re: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany
31: the RC-50 or the RC-20s are but im told they are all pretty similar.
200908/msg00184:Re: Boss looper contest in Germany
26: doesn't work on the RC-50" but it's often something else. In your case, I 30: Other than that quantize works extremely well on the RC-50: It can
200908/msg00185:Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany)
3: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 20: The problem is that the default settings of the RC-50 are not the settings
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200908/msg00189:Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany)
3: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 21: > The problem is that the default settings of the RC-50 are not the
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200908/msg00190:Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany)
3: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 19: Yes, can totally agree. The RC-50 is very reliable, even
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200908/msg00192:Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany)
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200908/msg00195:Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany)
3: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 25: the RC-50, right?
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200908/msg00236:Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany)
3: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 10: Subject: Re: RC-50 (was Boss looper contest in Germany) 19: Yes, that´s a good idea. The RC-50 also has a fade-in and -out option for
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200908/msg00796:Re: HELP for youtube.com/livelooping needed!
25: My favorite RC-50 song has not been there, though:
200908/msg00800:Re: HELP for youtube.com/livelooping needed!
40: > My favorite RC-50 song has not been there, though:
200908/msg00811:Re: HELP for youtube.com/livelooping needed!
33: > My favorite RC-50 song has not been there, though:
21: Don't expect a corrected version of the RC50, it's -just- a singers
21: it seems theres an infinite number of mac's to choose from (or maybe just 3, but it's still hard to choose) anyway, I'm looking for a mac for vocal, guitar and bass recording DI and miced cabs. Also looping would be good. I've heard mobius works, does it allow multi tracks ala the roland rc-50?in a laptop I think i need the following...RECORDING2 inputs... vocal mic + guitar michow much does this interface cost?LIVEinput for some sort of pedal to control mobiusgtr etc input and output for mobiusinput for a midi controller (keyboard) to play cubase or logic synthsoutput for thatcan i use those 2 ^^ inputs from before here!?I guess I want to record drums too but they could probably just get recorded somewhere else then I can add layers here. I want to do a fair bit of drum programming (ableton probably, with dfh) to make some demo tracks for this band i'm making but my drummer of choice is out of action for 1 1/2 months with a broken foot... How much RAM and speed do I need and how much is superfluous? including lots of overdubs! and perhaps my bro wants to do some lightshows on it too so extra room for graphics could be an option...what's the difference between having a firewire port built in like the old ones and the pro's or not... is fiirewire essential? best quality?sorry for rambling so much, any direction you can give would be really appreciated!andyLet us find your next place for you! Need a place to rent, buy or share?
24: flexible audio interface like the Motu can do everything the rc-50 can
20: if you want the reverse feature and multiple loops, look at the RC-50,
32: * the RC50 is the only stompbox looper which features multiple tracks
18: Absolutely. The RC-50 does have lots of limitations (can't output different "phrases" to different outputs). But for song based looping it works really well. It does massively garble the output though if you try to change the tempo mid loop. 33: * the RC50 is the only stompbox looper which features multiple tracks
200909/msg00244:Re: Just received my Boomerang III yesterday
28: Boss RC-50 also has midi sync but it doesn't work well according reports.
200909/msg00245:Re: Just received my Boomerang III yesterday
51: > believe the Boss RC-50 also has midi sync but it doesn't work well
200909/msg00246:Re: Just received my Boomerang III yesterday
70: >> believe the Boss RC-50 also has midi sync but it doesn't work well
200909/msg00250:AW: Just received my Boomerang III yesterday
25: do you have any experience with the RC-50?its size makes it already a
200909/msg00312:Re: Just received my Boomerang III yesterday
21: I'm afraid I have no experience with the RC-50, so I can't make a 25: and dropouts with the RC-50, which was enough to keep me from even 29: simplicity and great sound. The RC-50 seems to try to do more, but with 64: do you have any experience with the RC-50?its size makes it already a
78: Check out the Roland RC-50
200909/msg00352:Re: Just received my Boomerang III yesterday
18: I think I may end up popping for the new 'Rang. I DON'T like the fact that it is missing MIDI sync capabilities, though. However, EDP's in excellent condition are somewhat hard to find and the looperlative is too expensive for me. I had an RC-50 and wasn't totally enamoured of the device. It was, frankly, kind of a pain in the rear to use. I just sold off my Digitech Jamman which is a decent basic device. I've also owned and sold a Boss RC-2 and RC-20 (and also several EDPs, the original Jamman and the cool-looking Electrix looper). So...I'm in the market for a new looper and the new 'Rang really looks impressive.--- On Tue, 9/15/09, BC <compguy2@comcast.net> wrote:
200909/msg00353:Re: Just received my Boomerang III yesterday
46: for me. I had an RC-50 and wasn't totally enamoured of the device. It was,
200909/msg00444:Re: OT: Mainstage patches - muddy mono feelin' :-(
32: Boss RC-50 this way. But you're right, as long as CPU doesn't hurt. It's
200909/msg00450:Re: OT: Mainstage patches - muddy mono feelin' :-(
22: >with my Boss RC-50 this way. But you're right, as long as CPU doesn't
200909/msg00489:syncing RC -20xl with drum machine
45: course, with my RC-50 the same would occur I suspect, unless as previously 46: mentioned by others on list, you allow the RC-50 to run thru MIDI to the drum
200909/msg00490:Re: syncing RC -20xl with drum machine
86: > course, with my RC-50 the same would occur I suspect, 88: > mentioned by others on list, you allow the RC-50 to run
18: alohacan anyone recommend a looper that I can increase the tempo on after I have recorded the initial loops? my RC-50 doesn't handle this very well...thanks!michael
29: (RC-50 doesn't handle that well either afaik, but I 48: > have recorded the initial loops? my RC-50 doesn't handle this very
36: > I have recorded the initial loops? my RC-50 doesn't handle this
23: Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:30:56 -1000Subject: tempo changesFrom: drum@hawaii.rr.comTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comalohacan anyone recommend a looper that I can increase the tempo on after I have recorded the initial loops? my RC-50 doesn't handle this very well...thanks!michael
40: > have recorded the initial loops? my RC-50 doesn't handle this very
21: I have managed to use it to sync a loop to another looper, may not sound perfect but kind of kool..... and as said not many loopers offer this.. > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:28:03 +0100> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: tempo changes> > > > Anders Bergdahl wrote:> > I actually think that the Memory man with hazari can do this...> > yup, very badly ;-)> unless you want to also raise the pitch> > andy> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:30:56 -1000> > Subject: tempo changes> > From: drum@hawaii.rr.com> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > aloha> > > > can anyone recommend a looper that I can increase the tempo on after I > > have recorded the initial loops? my RC-50 doesn't handle this very well...> > > > thanks!> > > > michael> > >
200909/msg00609:RE: Is there a way to back up a single RC-50 patch?
3: RE: Is there a way to back up a single RC-50 patch? 10: Subject: RE: Is there a way to back up a single RC-50 patch? 39: Is there a way to back up a single RC-50 patch?
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24: I, for one, use the Line 6 DL4, the Oberheim Echoplex and an RC50.
26: > I, for one, use the Line 6 DL4, the Oberheim Echoplex and an RC50.
200910/msg00269:Robin Guthrie on Live Looping equipment
28: RC50 but haven't fired it up yet. On paper it looks great.”
44: > an RC50. I'm definitely wanting to branch out into software
18: There is a boss rc-50 on his left. Not sure if that explains the looping.On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM, <cpr@musetrap.com> wrote:
19: yes i see he has an RC-50 on his side though hes just pushing buttons on
18: I'm choosing between the EH 2880, Roland RC-50 and the KP3. What has me leaning in favour of the KP3 is the sample slicing where segments of the loop can be switched on and off, but I can't seem to find any specs on either the EH 2880 or Roland RC-50 that say this can also be acheived on those units - does anyone know and if so, can the muting be contolled by MIDI note/program change (I'm using the FCB1010)?
20: 123568 and not 123-56-8 (where - would indicate mute).(i have never tried to connect my fcb1010 with kp3, so i have no opinion on that matter)RC50 doesnt have this feature, but is also quite more easy for intuitive looping stuff. KP3 can work in a different, more "dj" oriented context. 27: I'm choosing between the EH 2880, Roland RC-50 and the KP3. What has me leaning in favour of the KP3 is the sample slicing where segments of the loop can be switched on and off, but I can't seem to find any specs on either the EH 2880 or Roland RC-50 that say this can also be acheived on those units - does anyone know and if so, can the muting be contolled by MIDI note/program change (I'm using the FCB1010)?
20: > I'm choosing between the EH 2880, Roland RC-50 and the KP3.
37: >> I'm choosing between the EH 2880, Roland RC-50 and the KP3.
18: some great replies. Thanks.I'm a solo musician and after real time looping and also some looping of pre-loaded samples and single shots sounds. I'll be putting voice, guitar and keyboard through the process. Sample slicing just seemed cool but isn't essential for my performances. I suppose I would have a use for looping parts at differnt bar lengths, but I hear this can't be done on the RC-50 and 2880. I think I would call my style folktronica. 21: > I'm choosing between the EH 2880, Roland RC-50 and the KP3.
22: > I hear this can't be done on the RC-50 24: This can be done on the RC-50 if you play in Multi Mode and turn off Loop
200912/msg00052:Question from Dutch forum about RC20XL vs RC-50 phrases
3: Question from Dutch forum about RC20XL vs RC-50 phrases 10: Subject: Question from Dutch forum about RC20XL vs RC-50 phrases 24: brigde and use record, overdub etc. This is possible with the rc-50
200912/msg00075:Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System
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200912/msg00077:Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System
3: Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System 10: Subject: Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System 37: Use a 1/4" TRS to Male XLR and you should be ok. The RC-50 has
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200912/msg00078:Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System
3: Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System 10: Subject: Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System 45: > Use a 1/4" TRS to Male XLR and you should be ok. The RC-50 has
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200912/msg00079:Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System
3: Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System 10: Subject: Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System 23: designed for this task. If the RC-50 manual doesn't clearly state that
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200912/msg00080:Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System
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200912/msg00102:Re: Attaching Boss RC-50 to Sound System
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38: the Electrix Repeater or the Boss RC-50)
201001/msg00363:RE: new digitech jamman on website
47: RC-50 with the “powered” rig.
3: Boss RC-50 sync issues 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 sync issues 18: Hello Everyone, this is my first post so you will all have to forgive me if I do or say something wrong! Moving on, I have recently upgraded from a DigiTech Jamman to a Boss RC-50. I have also acquired an Akai MPC 2500 which I would like to sync to the RC-50 via midi. I tried doing it this morning, and although both devices were set to transmit (MPC) and receive (RC50) midi data, the RC-50 would not recognize anything. I wouldn't sync to the tempo of the MPC, and it almost seemed like it wasn't receiving any information at all. The MPC has 4 Midi outs and perhaps the one I was using is not working, or it could be the cable, I will try weeding the things out later tonight.
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3: Re: Boss RC-50 sync issues 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 sync issues 21: Well the RC-50 usually doesn't want to sync to
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3: Re: Boss RC-50 sync issues 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 sync issues 26: Well the RC-50 usually doesn't want to sync to
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3: Boss RC-50 sync issues 10: Subject: Boss RC-50 sync issues 21: I always use the RC-50 as a master going to my drum machine Dr-5. I wonder some about having another looper connected, wither the RC-50 will pick up the tempo. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
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201001/msg00773:Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
3: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 10: Subject: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 18: Here's an update. I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes. I'm not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending, the way the mpc is receiving or the mpc unit. This is so frustrating!
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201001/msg00774:Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
3: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 18: Update 2! So now I have have the MPC as the master. The click track on both the MPC and RC50 as synced BUT when the sequence in the MPC comes in it's off. WAY off. So maybe its not the looper?
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201001/msg00776:Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
3: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 19: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:07:42 -0600To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Subject: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!Update 2! So now I have have the MPC as the master. The click track on both the MPC and RC50 as synced BUT when the sequence in the MPC comes in it's off. WAY off. So maybe its not the looper?
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201001/msg00777:Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
3: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 19: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:54:45 -0600To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Subject: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!Here's an update. I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes. I'm not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending, the way the mpc is receiving or the mpc unit. This is so frustrating!
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201001/msg00783:Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
3: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 10: Subject: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 18: the 9/7 was a typo. I meant 9/8. Moving on. I FIGURED IT OUT! Kind of. Although it means a little extra work. Heres what I did...MPC -MasterRC50 - SlaveOn each machine set the desired tempo. This must be set on both machines or it will not work. Then set the MIDI SYNC under the SYSTEM tab on the RC50 to REMOTE. The MPC should be set to output MIDI CLOCK on whatever midi out you pick.
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201001/msg00807:Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
3: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 19: the 9/7 was a typo. I meant 9/8. Moving on. I FIGURED IT OUT! Kind of. Although it means a little extra work. Heres what I did...MPC -MasterRC50 - SlaveOn each machine set the desired tempo. This must be set on both machines or it will not work. Then set the MIDI SYNC under the SYSTEM tab on the RC50 to REMOTE. The MPC should be set to output MIDI CLOCK on whatever midi out you pick.
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201001/msg00811:Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
3: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 20: fixes the problem or someone writes alternative software for the RC50.
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201001/msg00817:Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
3: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 10: Subject: Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems! 21: > Here's an update. I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is
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201001/msg00818:Re: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
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