From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 1 18:33:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 844CF133132; Fri, 1 Jan 2016 18:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: andy butler Subject: Re: LooperMusic.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20151228191757.e4a21929c5e0ed1e8b3c974402408619.8ac5a73178.wbe@email16.secureserver.net> Reply-To: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk Message-ID: <5686C69D.9000907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 18:34:05 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151228191757.e4a21929c5e0ed1e8b3c974402408619.8ac5a73178.wbe@email16.secureserver.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090204000802050108080709" X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22038.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--9.764-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--9.764-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: dL10VBB8yoeWCfP5eCE+Gya1MaKuob8PC/ExpXrHizyErM3cWbMQynY+ oFbrqO/JHFfN2d3LyaxezP1Nwlte33BliJqQzff8aNnyr85zWcBCs7hdHoFFA88lXFw0YL2w9CU K9nFoZ/wVZgGEGDzk0TfTnh7iO2dmmglraB+Awa+wr5ZZVOw5dXERUnpSxuvf31GU/N5W5BDcw4 RxG6ciiRA5RUHu1wOUQTtyAWXgJsn1Mz1cxcooKIzb2GR6Ttd3Vg8Cu6buTGUgUEQTkIWiYlhj/ slyrXkM6FUyuNSnX7vRR8x1Rs/IL0ULBetgp2vzSVtfn9pafReazFxXIQ3InEENV4Lwnu7B5S6U fN1e806TX1oV7MaWzhoAXSLeXC9wCLTFoW0rIarpnOP6QxEGtnzIY7d2+Tz9AnW+Tu2Fi4YHkpd XcfTlizzhutt1HdJNioFl5UK3cJ92R+fNS1wHmS+PrAd8gbHJCFEIkVv1y6z1A1kEeXE28QspV4 Rw6UcDP5mpBtPr/e4RU53jnp3G5dsoDJz5OAzcDB+ErBr0bAMc4c7W5GaSPjssXelfet1UuPFrk RUFXWri8zVgXoAltuoKEDqVJEm+71zr0FZRMbB5zdAzex5xZqjA4Vyj7KNeP8DmcN5Xlrhnegrz q5OG3H+EBYzwQDUMqsMDu+Snmdl6gV8Oj9CiKIztz5KrOyo03PSQW/9mJBQNJFLILOjQyX7cGd1 9dSFd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 18:33:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090204000802050108080709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29/12/2015 02:17, contact@loopermusic.com wrote: > Hello - just wanted to spread the word to this group of looping musicians: I have reviewed about 26 loop pedals that are currently in production. I would love to get your feedback on those reviews and also I'm interested in publishing content from expert guests (like many of you). hi Jasper. nice resource, particularly that it features a lot of the newer loop devices. As you asked for feedback................... I thought the Question/Answer format wasn't always ideal, often a lot of the features/capabilities are related, so a well conceived paragraph would perhaps cover a group of "questions" better. I didn't see any mention of sound quality, often an issue. Did you actually *try* all those pedals before reviewing? Anyway, overall an impressive piece of work :-) thanx for offer to host reviews, Sadly the loopers delight site is inactive now. However a number of the loopers delight people have contributed to livelooping.org which is 100% non-commercial. all the best andy ps there's an issue that hitting a link to a looper always opens in Amazon > > Cheers, > Jasper --------------090204000802050108080709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 29/12/2015 02:17, contact@loopermusic.com wrote:
Hello - just wanted to spread the word to this group of looping musicians: I have reviewed about 26 loop pedals that are currently in production. I would love to get your feedback on those reviews and also I'm interested in publishing content from expert guests (like many of you).
hi Jasper.
nice resource, particularly that it features a lot of the newer loop devices.

As you asked for feedback...................

I thought the Question/Answer format wasn't always ideal,
often a lot of the features/capabilities are related, so a well conceived
paragraph would perhaps cover a group of "questions" better.

 I didn't see any mention of sound quality, often an issue.

Did you actually *try* all those pedals before reviewing?


Anyway, overall an impressive piece of work :-)


thanx for offer to host reviews,
Sadly the loopers delight site is inactive now.

However a number of the loopers delight people have contributed to
livelooping.org which is 100% non-commercial.

all the best
andy
ps
there's an issue that hitting a link to a looper always opens in Amazon
 

Cheers,
Jasper

--------------090204000802050108080709-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 1 19:39:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E970A133136; Fri, 1 Jan 2016 19:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kliklak.net ; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=cx4YrjMTWyY68jG2EL1mP2b+YYmn7XVeFBpkcGSZhXM=; b=hSx2CNjl1ZaGT7zokFYsoCzw8p XuOxCwY6u3afO6cha4sRuqQj1YuydfJpsRemtZLshM4kBUmUT1fXzvL2vr1ba2SqaZn7viGBj0nP9 H2N/WfgZsjoDBN1d0pGBjpIcJA6kPT2WnpuH5dupOPjGPIEcFros7BmBJUqOMliSu+YJGZcTxb3az RWEzRMkKbXM2fv292tRu2XaazxM2EpWL+uK2Ilia4nrGY1tQz/v29t14Wykzznk0ycbMGasJ0GxpR 4UucmsjRZJyf1KTid9YQfqimeqCXf05CIt3cZ/Fd6TeSjk3tULi5Kaxg15uP93OuXJfgcHApiFXAu SgxU1cxA==; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: LooperMusic.com From: jrploopers In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 20:39:34 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5A0D1CEF-CC90-4A2B-8E19-E7112CECE64A@kliklak.net> References: <20151228191757.e4a21929c5e0ed1e8b3c974402408619.8ac5a73178.wbe@email16.secureserver.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elpaso.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: elpaso.hostforweb.net: authenticated_id: jrploopers@kliklak.net X-Authenticated-Sender: elpaso.hostforweb.net: jrploopers@kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 19:39:52 +0000 (UTC) I like the site, has a good overview on essential features.=20 That is impressive work for one person.=20 What i would Get rid of the online shop binding. Amazon hasn't the best credit for = various reasons. Instead if you want to go with redirecting to distributors, why not = include the best instead of the most mighty? And provide an = international focus, instead of a US-American only. Also i think, that a base of several looping affine reviewers would = increased the quality to the point of including reviewed devices, which = are out of production, but working very well until someone decides to = build better converters into BOSS loopers :D=20 A lot of us have live experience on all kinds of PA systems and in all = kinds of situations, that base of experience is at least as important as = a sole technical overview on technical data mostly provided by the = manufaturers themselves. To get back to the converter example: Take a = 12bit Lexicon Jamman from roughly 1994 and you get a much better sound, = especially on large system, then with a modern BOSS. I could go = lengthier... But let's keep it liek that: Good work for one person! jayrope --- www.kliklak.net/jayrope/ www.aircushionfinish.com www.prinzenallee.com www.plus.google.com/+jayrope On Dec 31, 2015, at 4:04 AM, Steven Clements wrote: > ...and the link > http://loopermusic.com/blog/full-list-of-looper-pedal-reviews-so-far >=20 >=20 > Steven >=20 > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:17 PM, wrote: > Hello - just wanted to spread the word to this group of looping = musicians: I have reviewed about 26 loop pedals that are currently in = production. I would love to get your feedback on those reviews and also = I'm interested in publishing content from expert guests (like many of = you). >=20 > Cheers, > Jasper >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 2 16:20:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AD12101600; Sat, 2 Jan 2016 16:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SID: 14L71s0010Y2vuM01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 204.228.247.36 User-Agent: Workspace Webmail 5.16.0 Message-Id: <20160102092005.e4a21929c5e0ed1e8b3c974402408619.6f179e3236.wbe@email16.secureserver.net> From: To: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: LooperMusic.com Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:20:05 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 16:20:10 +0000 (UTC)
Hello Andy - great to hear from you again. Thanks for taking t= he time to look through the site. I completely agree on the question/answer= format. I'm going to start doing more like this one: http://loopermusic.com/equipment/compact-looper-pedals

I've generally left out sound quality due to a fe= w things: 1) it can be highly subjective and 2) it can heavily depend on ot= her units in your setup and I don't want to misinform. That being said, if = you have ideas on how to do it while getting around those two concerns I wi= ll start looking into it.

I won't claim t= o have used every looper that I've reviewed, but I have demo'd most of them= . Some of the variants were not demo'd.

R= egarding livelooping.org, is there a= n active forum that goes with that site? I am thinking about starting one t= hat maybe you could utilize as well? I know my site is commercial, but that= enables me to actually spend time on this vs other potential ventures.

<= span style=3D"font-size: 9pt;">Thanks,
Jasper


=0A
=0A
=0A-------- Original Mess= age --------
=0ASubject: Re: LooperMu= sic.com
=0AFrom: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
=0ADate: Fri, January 01, 2016 11:= 34 am
=0ATo: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
=0A
=0A

On 29/12/2015 02:17, contact@loopermusic.com wrote:
Hello - just wanted to spread the word t= o this group of looping musicians: I have reviewed about 26 loop pedals tha= t are currently in production. I would love to get your feedback on those r= eviews and also I'm interested in publishing content from expert guests (li= ke many of you).
hi Jasper.
nice resource, p= articularly that it features a lot of the newer loop devices.

As y= ou asked for feedback...................

I thought the Question/An= swer format wasn't always ideal,
often a lot of the features/capabilit= ies are related, so a well conceived
paragraph would perhaps cover a gr= oup of "questions" better.

 I didn't see any mention of sound= quality, often an issue.

Did you actually *try* all those pedals = before reviewing?


Anyway, overall an impressive piece of work= :-)


thanx for offer to host reviews,
Sadly the loopers d= elight site is inactive now.

However a number of the loopers delig= ht people have contributed to
livelo= oping.org which is 100% non-commercial.

all the best
andy<= br> ps
there's an issue that hitting a link to a looper always opens in= Amazon
 
=
<= br>
Cheers,
Jasper

=0A
=0A
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 2 16:26:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35E0B10160B; Sat, 2 Jan 2016 16:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SID: 14SS1s0010aeGat01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 204.228.247.36 User-Agent: Workspace Webmail 5.16.0 Message-Id: <20160102092625.e4a21929c5e0ed1e8b3c974402408619.d6969852c7.wbe@email16.secureserver.net> From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: LooperMusic.com Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:26:25 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 16:26:27 +0000 (UTC)
Hi Jayrope - I would love to get some help from others that have = experience with the units that are no longer in production! If anyone wants= to contribute to the site (from the Loopers Delight community), I would be= very appreciative. 

Regarding the online sho= pping. I added Reverb and Guitar Center this week. Also, I retro-fitted the= Amazon listings to point to the country that the person is in (Germany, UK= , Canada, Spain, Italy, and France). However, if anyone has connections to = the distributors, please let me know. I'd be happy to work with them to.

Thanks again,
Jasper
=0A
=0A
=0A-------- Original Message ----= ----
=0ASubject: Re: LooperMusic.com<= /a>
=0AFrom: jrploopers <
jr= ploopers@kliklak.net>
=0ADate: Fri, January 01, 2016 12:39 pm
= =0ATo: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
=0A
=0AI like the site, has a good overvie= w on essential features.
=0AThat is impressive work for one person. =0AWhat i would
=0AGet rid of the online shop binding. Amazon hasn't th= e best credit for various reasons.
=0AInstead if you want to go with red= irecting to distributors, why not include the best instead of the most migh= ty? And provide an international focus, instead of a US-American only.
= =0AAlso i think, that a base of several looping affine reviewers would incr= eased the quality to the point of including reviewed devices, which are out= of production, but working very well until someone decides to build better= converters into BOSS loopers :D
=0AA lot of us have live experience on= all kinds of PA systems and in all kinds of situations, that base of exper= ience is at least as important as a sole technical overview on technical da= ta mostly provided by the manufaturers themselves. To get back to the conve= rter example: Take a 12bit Lexicon Jamman from roughly 1994 and you get a m= uch better sound, especially on large system, then with a modern BOSS. I co= uld go lengthier...
=0A
=0ABut let's keep it liek that: Good work for= one person! 
=0A
=0Ajayrope
=0A---
=0Awww.kliklak.net/jayrope/
=0Awww.aircushionfinish.com
=0Awww.prinzenallee.com
=0Awww.plus.google.com/+jayrope
=0A
= =0AOn Dec 31, 2015, at 4:04 AM, Steven Clements wrote:
=0A
=0A> ..= .and the link
=0A> http://loopermusic.com/blog/full-list-of-loo= per-pedal-reviews-so-far
=0A>
=0A>
=0A> Steven
= =0A>
=0A> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:17 PM, <contact@loopermusic.com> wrote:
=0A> = Hello - just wanted to spread the word to this group of looping musicians: = I have reviewed about 26 loop pedals that are currently in production. I wo= uld love to get your feedback on those reviews and also I'm interested in p= ublishing content from expert guests (like many of you).
=0A>
=0A= > Cheers,
=0A> Jasper
=0A>
=0A
=0A=0A
=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 8 18:52:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9AB7133136; Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 582 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 18:52:54 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ljova.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=Tsr 730pivc2DWxp896MWexFf81w=; b=Ac8hdgvzgpH7xZT7rL077+FJp4uZZtziZwE CafAt5gBgiqx+NIpQleYyWK64BrCLrbgAGf0tqkmw5jF1ka2zWzbv586Nqb/OveJ oWojlAXRiIWxxZijcbmpJFDYl0RzqbkQooSCvmRdYwtouyWXTIaYcfU3fyoyxX+c NvIjgmPQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=Tsr730pivc2DWxp896MWexFf81w=; b=rM+J5 /6RV6ANsMYC6mE3go/P4AkFnjOR/5yEdWMqpXHfTmp3j8R5HZWW8MXs+cUOY0zKz eQGp5Jczft4UhACArnuxvNG4lJ6zzy8H6ED7n00gCmFUVHavtlDZlF9G8thpYzWh 00ywg5xFiJ3khB0dCscNPbLTGM10i+BVlz8PrA= Message-Id: <1452278591.1214398.486768210.0845B6B4@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: JSo8hOKXsWfpbW1bJNiDRz0ptabi0w+VIZMJKJHUnvrM 1452278591 From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-6cda141f Subject: Looper Symphony - Bottomless fadolin/looper Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 13:43:11 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <5O3MmB.A.i1F.GWAkWB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Dear LD, I lurk on this list -- wanted share with you a set I did in December with a six-string violin (I call it a fadol=EDn) and a looper rig (primarily Boomerang & reverb). you might enjoy: https://soundcloud.com/ljova/bottomless thank you! Ljova --=20 Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://www.Ljova.com Watch: http://www.Ljova.com/watch Listen: http://Ljova.bandcamp.com IMDb: http://imdb.me/Ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 11 23:02:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E4BB133135; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 411 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:02:52 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hblnxmtascan04.hostbaby.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:55:58 -0600 Subject: Video index for the NW LoopFest! From: "Noah Peterson" To: "Loopers-Delight" Reply-To: noah@noahpeterson.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Hey everyone, Here’s the 2015 NW LoopFest video index. Please take some time and explore some new names and your old favorites! If you want to dive in here’s the entire NW LoopFest playlist with over 100 videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjiWJF83CBilSU0sbBPMO-X7bp_KnVkX1 Here’s a special little bit of fun: NW LoopFest Group Loop – (various artists) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPRHVaqhM7w And here’s your performers for Seattle, WA, Portland, OR, and Lincoln City, OR Riley Tyrel Carter – Boardman, Oregon (guitar, phrase looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYTq-z6Vis&list=PLjiWJF83CBinlEXoicRoz0ZzleHH545LE&index=1 Ted Killian – Medford, OR (guitar, ambient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9WBTMgEB7g&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBilTiVHwEvIWdkap8nkPO0nM Professor Slicebox – Portland, OR (multiple instruments, phrase looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltBCY_MkeX8&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBilEczDKtMt3C_LMnVSXVy1c Canzino – Vancouver, BC, Canada (multiple instruments, phrase looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76tXpvdnvVQ&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBilOyP0IsVRghjrikFRKBQIy Daniel J. Davis – Seattle, WA (synth, ambient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTueHLBDSYI&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBil6Jw-RjUMNiqrXOGzC9ynK Waffle Taco – Portland, OR (loop duo, phrase) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzdfzCd1PT4&list=PLjiWJF83CBimDbDChPTXGDP4jwQkolEl5&index=1 Cindy Sawprano – San Francisco (Hurdy Gurdy, Saw, misc, ambient/phrases) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caJdOZzmmww&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBilrquxkKhkYuWbW0qp8BdTU Frederick Brummer – Vancouver, BC, Canada (invented instrument: analog disc looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvxdg7liP7Q&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBilYZahxjWFmP5xjZyueGexG MC Space Cadet – Seattle, WA (invented software for gestural looping) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6Df0DxLvs&list=PLjiWJF83CBimqYDv6rJuhUpol4mV_m_hV&index=1 Steve Uccello –Monterey, CA (bass, phrase looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0lqfDNQDAc&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBil4JwVMW_L4O4gpRdmdezM9 Lexhart – Seattle, WA (multiple instruments, phrase looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bHgZ0jm50U&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBimE_lQec_yFioNGv3XqmRFL thisissami – Palestine (multiple, EDM looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqqHV1pf_6M&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBimrFAL-HXFF__9wLaETGHOa Noah Peterson – San Antonio, TX (sax, phrase looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fbvVS-Cixw&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBimccKaWKggmeZpg548pl5Tt Son Fish – Modesto, CA (keys, ambient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLx7Plxsf7I&list=PLjiWJF83CBildFTFFOOGF45ZKre6f9iCr&index=1 Timothy Scallon – Seattle, WA (guitar, ambient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LqKPMQbgNw&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBik3Pi5LNjZL4Pqw5_4Dzpq5 FreshFX – Columbus, OH (vocal, glitch/phrase looper) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBPH8_Q0kI&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBili8BvnJwyt7oQmy-EGkoiw Mark Hamburg – Seattle, WA (guitar, ambient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk9JQmy3SRg&list=PLjiWJF83CBimpFfXTcMXvBFVAAW5vEUA7&index=1 Troll Foot Frass – North Branch, MN (multiple instruments, phrase looper, visual component) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6qozcrIkVs&list=PLjiWJF83CBinFZ1aUvlFd7i91yN4SFKD2&index=1 Quiet Horn – Seattle, WA (trombone, ambient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBS5TChylHE&list=PLjiWJF83CBiknUbF5i6O4UShB30JN5Clg&index=1 The Electric Noodle – San Francisco, CA (guitar, ambient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDGfeVtjC-g&list=PLjiWJF83CBimC4hKLaP3NBOvbKf3VHb-n&index=1 Eric Muhs – Seattle, WA (multiple things, noise) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK37VTSxx_E&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBikpM6NbPEJlxuHHfm8jenpN Blake DeGraw – Seattle, WA (vocal, performance art) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPcRLXTZBq0&index=1&list=PLjiWJF83CBilSqAzLmGS1OF86c46_5Ta0 Chrome Mole Monocle – Portland, OR (drums, phrase/ambient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyCr7dYKRoo Of course, you can go to www.nwloopfest.com and just click on names too. Peterson Entertainment, Llc 999 East Basse Road #180-117 San Antonio, TX 78209 503-703-9516 -- www.noahpeterson.com www.petersonentertainment.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 13 05:45:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01DAE101615; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wu2bQxjPn4UxwlCfCKvws0m1lMExQk8fpjErttIMJmA=; b=sRyDuEVjWfS05pAubE4Ww8+keQPoKyHcgFxLBuq4owLrOcoFCWX5SKt8YaO/cSoOQ4 YXXpcAaIYAPqb4BfjlUtWxm9Umg3nNGaFq06a3CGd/l1FboKonk5g/VbTyDmEQXOYUVa j49e8wTqPrKnwWR/1KSG0Jbi3UC+Br5T3VWNmQM7PvbB9djJRQTJb4M5bsacDRaycGnV 4AabSMYVKjIK13EIvT5iwQj6KXhc9u6jaJfmUJhE+tXl46/M0+66bV4u5LcSjammoPIt usB8fIOx28csRJjo+WD3w+dCMLQqb0YD7X8PjmeUXo/tAN7/3PnhkmNp0hgiGDAyo/wO 8OKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Wu2bQxjPn4UxwlCfCKvws0m1lMExQk8fpjErttIMJmA=; b=Q3g5kNFk0srSzTL2iu+8yY9divDZz1UKEzad6Nx65jRQao5KvhHUhIMqLezbP9iY06 XqBtIznUCIThwLBeAZsnbkFVslYzmg9qeyVw/ba48lG2YENP1MjLNC5qjR+Z5CPeBSZI oQ6BoKHr1CeItnL2GW0WSg0dYw3bmDPXoDWpxfI+f9yK84Ij33AzJTfuHR5/NJrdXXEg Vw3D+N4j22ocCWa0sRc7kvdqBRBKrKYhNzeSIvvz/Onu3lrvkKbnHmtaYeJvTGyAiC/h 9AMzA/Z6XROdtFffaoE0Di0/8hsnYSUFN1LW4RDtEf6ODhTcNqb9x58q/tOkQP/YhGkX C7sQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmfRp4oZgOtJfjDceWswTz6nrfB1N+EUUUmx4F6WV85TGUC1r/wMbNLOBI1qfT8W9PATV30mDtDGobHkgUE34KZoo6BkQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.23.232 with SMTP id p8mr30202851wjf.80.1452663944940; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:45:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:45:44 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: New release "Pink Earth" From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_K6mjB.A.tmG.JSelWB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, My new CD, "Pink Earth" is officially released today. Folks that know me know that I've been talking about this one for over a year. The tracks on Pink Earth feature drum machine, like my previous releases, but they also feature the sampled sounds of my own voice. Both are manipulated heavily so they don't operate as drum machines and vocals typically do. Musically, it's a quieter, more mysterious record like my previous one, "The 3am Music". It's not intended to be a challenging or difficult listen. Instead, it's something you can put on while working or going to sleep. It's available as a CD or digital download at: https://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/album/pink-earth Over the next week or so, it'll be making it's way to iTunes, Amazon and the like. I'll be having a CD release show this Thursday (1/14) at the Luggage Store Gallery in San Francisco. Organ of Qwerty will be opening with a quad-channel performance of abstract laptop improvisations. Here's the Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/981612501913355/ -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com Music: http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com Podcast: http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 19 20:33:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD8D1133134; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=LDx4RN5NwuVMfBQdctHaPIipGBdFSyLzYaNdRXrfUT8=; b=iFYHoTcEFseo1WAa+a/vVpezRsmvypCLL2qZWtabOVeyT/it2OC9I14c2OtyS0vukJ 7Hq3z2oebwHqGcXX31b3BFInwX3tcyA/lGXG5VwxlZc+8uFNNs++D0IQnSPgQ6huw7w/ ID54aJLa9mUTknGTcvc290OsOLUa3xcXjnozc7G1Oy427uJHJsbLlv9JwHFKtie48KnT RFciaFh7U11e3oLwYd7mzMTzSrFGuYuamNrHtx9xdQgdouo6+X4uPmrhSZXB7gAZqbTE O7IvSSUxUCo1mJZewn1HEKtZstZpIT7XYs/RJ9orBa5L1tnZFpHCjMQ3HRy1El6R+A+z qUUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=LDx4RN5NwuVMfBQdctHaPIipGBdFSyLzYaNdRXrfUT8=; b=TU+oh7MR0OEzQsv063/fV7BukxpO0mjoUfwr0d+uDeRoleAFmqDUBSQOAKJPWYO4OX XScTzqSkPdBkn7xNSKRIT8cD2wdgUqPc2P7/Ee5zBEsSw2sCAAcRSaga5FFN7iIETHRZ 7zg36IgdhTqTszbxo6KLR47b4I6pepGc5lvnKqpbUJo3rBNhUTWrKO4axdAaBAVOYrJ9 W/zHTdy6M8WTZcdau4W8xc3QmOXcSbCUATx9qQ9xpD28O2GB3WbWDMQuYh5xIfJxR8x6 GjnxyLE+NLeJbq/UX6zDrGQxV2hnbrVZWC77u8bYm+IKfMFO6zp9k+XawYVUfCoUDJVA kg4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQndwguD6z4xtqnDRvg9PgbSMIGj/QQDOGrT78tvOJChCBpEzkRvSUo5L8NQpQKEfXfuD9cyawT9bgeuS14+Tipr+MkhlQ== X-Received: by 10.60.227.104 with SMTP id rz8mr26032274oec.45.1453235603496; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:33:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:33:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: tremelo bridge? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11368604ebe5d10529b5c7e2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:33:24 +0000 (UTC) --001a11368604ebe5d10529b5c7e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Does anyone know of a simple to install tremelo bridge that does NOT involve routing... (like a bigsbyish thing) but short enough to install on a baritone that doesnt have much space behind the bridge? Im building a bit of a frankenstein guitar (lapsteel) froma hunk of wood, and Im thinking of putting my deusenburg multi bender on it... I hardly use it on the bari... prob more use on a slide... But I need a replacement... Maybe just a regular trem... and doesnt have to be able to do Steve Vie swoops... just subtle wanging... thanks in advance -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --001a11368604ebe5d10529b5c7e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know of a simple to install tremelo bridge tha= t does NOT involve routing... (like a bigsbyish thing) but short enough to = install on a baritone that doesnt have much space behind the bridge?
Im = building a bit of a frankenstein guitar (lapsteel) froma =C2=A0hunk of wood= , and Im thinking of putting my deusenburg multi bender on it... I hardly u= se it on the bari... prob more use on a slide... But I need a replacement..= . Maybe just a regular trem... and doesnt have to be able to do Steve Vie s= woops... just subtle wanging...

thanks in advance

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--001a11368604ebe5d10529b5c7e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 19 20:44:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7265133134; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PCQRPq4C93qv31wWx5hHRo+xvM5E75nwdEKqGTDmMqA=; b=dvYRqlIg6WuP9p8ySpdsE5j3pMUnvK01n+OqMMZr3MJ023B6UooaCKhySYJ3P/OVB/ oL2d/pQWiRTf1KWUctWS/i2qodHQskGwdJI7yps5qiP0dNuClUjgNM2GyKCGlsgLttHn AdYq4FgYqJlwQFbXEP7qkTEkUUlblr65nhY00MeEApcFyT41OnDwR2f9PsWdzneaf4uN 9WdBbQC/rToFPp4T5tw3wJh9aCBwjx33zEClKIanhW38iNde6G1NZOYbUZktHcVvmK8+ RBZfYsYyMlBZucvZOiOij1zRQVaFvsKopHfAoFTDy4IX/Yp+4cRuieX9VwhmWVWS18z2 brwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PCQRPq4C93qv31wWx5hHRo+xvM5E75nwdEKqGTDmMqA=; b=ENfaXTWvrWEVeqU1s+23L/i1m8UFuax/LNZFKbbVyFKl7Ejnr3dnbTpvLlZFk1lynP vlWWYOIPej3Tvh8NgNNT6SHWfMnzagNlFLaEOPtz6A4dbMzByHP2AY4Vg6GafejWO4R4 rntEXsOnu5rAvn+6nWE6GBrBzpyytZ9ZBiaaEZYxWL/J/kgpV/oQQdbiV6WOFq5Tbf/z ZVJtpsIALooqU1SmlJi65gK3sZ044EcPSWfHX1JeCQuJVUOJibThA8DKd4iCRjfp/HYs hyuZQBA4VibU9jJvUNe3tIEaZ7aHu0fCOa3J6XsK/c1G7OKdT6xBKZnZ4dFFEmYRsisS hgRg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn1WKIDs0rsG1x9zIvz6z5uq5R9tHephRahvHCdjT5g1KuKe4E83JUDtwLej7mfjOH7DuXRj0WQXwKCOHoM/y2VqQU3bg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.97.161 with SMTP id eb1mr24743812obb.3.1453236256123; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:44:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:44:16 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tremelo bridge? From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e450ed23f320529b5ee88 Resent-Message-ID: <3w5cbB.A.BAF.gAqnWB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:44:16 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b2e450ed23f320529b5ee88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I haven't tried it, but I remember thinking about installing a stetsbar tremelo: https://www.stetsbar.com/ On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:33 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Does anyone know of a simple to install tremelo bridge that does NOT > involve routing... (like a bigsbyish thing) but short enough to install on > a baritone that doesnt have much space behind the bridge? > Im building a bit of a frankenstein guitar (lapsteel) froma hunk of wood, > and Im thinking of putting my deusenburg multi bender on it... I hardly use > it on the bari... prob more use on a slide... But I need a replacement... > Maybe just a regular trem... and doesnt have to be able to do Steve Vie > swoops... just subtle wanging... > > thanks in advance > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com --047d7b2e450ed23f320529b5ee88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I haven't tried it, but I remember thinking about inst= alling a stetsbar tremelo:


On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:33 PM, mark= francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know of a simple to in= stall tremelo bridge that does NOT involve routing... (like a bigsbyish thi= ng) but short enough to install on a baritone that doesnt have much space b= ehind the bridge?
Im building a bit of a frankenstein guitar (lapsteel) = froma =C2=A0hunk of wood, and Im thinking of putting my deusenburg multi be= nder on it... I hardly use it on the bari... prob more use on a slide... Bu= t I need a replacement... Maybe just a regular trem... and doesnt have to b= e able to do Steve Vie swoops... just subtle wanging...

= thanks in advance

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Tue, 19 Jan 2016 13:00:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <294F450D-DD69-404D-932D-047B8D487703@jua.com.au> References: <294F450D-DD69-404D-932D-047B8D487703@jua.com.au> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:00:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tremelo bridge? From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c07589467d5230529b6274b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:00:06 +0000 (UTC) --94eb2c07589467d5230529b6274b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 If you can find a Washburn WonderBar, they are great. On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Anthony Hancock wrote: > Stets bar > > > On 20 Jan 2016, at 07:34, mark francombe wrote: > > Does anyone know of a simple to install tremelo bridge that does NOT > involve routing... (like a bigsbyish thing) but short enough to install on > a baritone that doesnt have much space behind the bridge? > Im building a bit of a frankenstein guitar (lapsteel) froma hunk of wood, > and Im thinking of putting my deusenburg multi bender on it... I hardly use > it on the bari... prob more use on a slide... But I need a replacement... > Maybe just a regular trem... and doesnt have to be able to do Steve Vie > swoops... just subtle wanging... > > thanks in advance > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --94eb2c07589467d5230529b6274b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you can find a Washburn WonderBar, they are great. =C2= =A0

On Tue, = Jan 19, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Anthony Hancock <AHancock@jua.com.au> wrote:
Stets = bar


On 20 Jan 2016,= at 07:34, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know of a simple to in= stall tremelo bridge that does NOT involve routing... (like a bigsbyish thi= ng) but short enough to install on a baritone that doesnt have much space b= ehind the bridge?
Im building a bit of a frankenstein guitar (lapsteel) = froma =C2=A0hunk of wood, and Im thinking of putting my deusenburg multi be= nder on it... I hardly use it on the bari... prob more use on a slide... Bu= t I need a replacement... Maybe just a regular trem... and doesnt have to b= e able to do Steve Vie swoops... just subtle wanging...

= thanks in advance

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--94eb2c07589467d5230529b6274b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 19 22:27:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 338181016D9; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=USM/UWJR4cPtrqjr+HOdh6ZGJPywF7UrohNGJ9wfU4Q=; b=NNFVSxLQaILqv76EPMbDW4Yup4wL2O1xV0drft8eXvdNRFv56vSgdvselgMFKmS87C GVtkDP3mIpxkV7bkxWCr8SH9pJH6W29Ka00P/wMMAIabQ0Iz9Iz/7JEIR3kse73zBHlP Pvn+56z23QJtdRIS+ZVlxWj3+4OZSlQXvLEYXjfzDaqWgk5CGUeNNn2jaWbNchEtIx7W Sbp0LycudPFe8r7blIju7ugODdgKxuWP3SL1K8bdGwH7nIog5dLDLh787dSmEW7U4wzh h5It1uH0Qv9fuHw3ETrHOM9oGlsKOJf1dcKNOreUkqIrQrA3IAxAmwpj2cGNGVIO5Ndw UobQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=USM/UWJR4cPtrqjr+HOdh6ZGJPywF7UrohNGJ9wfU4Q=; b=e5dUhiDEUKrqP2i2IcjIGeoX4hHcrI43m5rMeuiaEY5tPTXNxxXBr4g5ZYIr6MYz4w iw+i5FfSJloWn0Xm6ARNNiaiDMoFx9xdSdiClGLcvAGWzae8AObGkk8EsezjCdHbJW70 lQVnDQcY4NF9rYZrcKYT2sAjzsod4I5R9/CPc1fe+jnw5nZkDK5k9VujX9weWYfAvSYE Q3RgQY1CZUNOTsyvLWJa/uhWr98hRRSbgKsGA6NUjSeS1QmPnfmDb0zNc5CXC7VI8Uz5 FjapR/IQOOX6rxmc+0c6yb8XtYIFkru2fy+NL5zyV8Lnt4VJC65URHNVKRqGpBZMEpUP N1+w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn8x7ecOITOGm4dzj79qU+pynZw2NW3qzkc/3eVWR7T/3OqP9T2weVjWpLSU40LbPcqQxWIzwLBUX5fd0mcHzqDFidl2w== X-Received: by 10.112.161.104 with SMTP id xr8mr11777118lbb.29.1453242461437; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:27:41 -0800 (PST) From: mark francombe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-AF4B3BC4-6FAC-4C00-BCA5-FE77ADD1DE43 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: tremelo bridge? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 23:27:39 +0100 References: In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:27:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-AF4B3BC4-6FAC-4C00-BCA5-FE77ADD1DE43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stets bar it is it seems! Thanks for the hint! Sent from my (advertisement removed) > On 19 Jan 2016, at 21:44, Art Simon wrote: >=20 > I haven't tried it, but I remember thinking about installing a stetsbar tr= emelo: >=20 > https://www.stetsbar.com/ >=20 >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:33 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Does anyone know of a simple to install tremelo bridge that does NOT invo= lve routing... (like a bigsbyish thing) but short enough to install on a bar= itone that doesnt have much space behind the bridge? >> Im building a bit of a frankenstein guitar (lapsteel) froma hunk of wood= , and Im thinking of putting my deusenburg multi bender on it... I hardly us= e it on the bari... prob more use on a slide... But I need a replacement... M= aybe just a regular trem... and doesnt have to be able to do Steve Vie swoop= s... just subtle wanging... >>=20 >> thanks in advance >>=20 >> --=20 >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com --Apple-Mail-AF4B3BC4-6FAC-4C00-BCA5-FE77ADD1DE43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stets bar it is it seems! Thanks for t= he hint!

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 19 Jan= 2016, at 21:44, Art Simon <simart@gm= ail.com> wrote:

I haven't tried it, but I remember thinking about installing a stetsba= r tremelo:


On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:33 PM, mark francombe <m= arkfrancombe@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know of a simple to install tremelo bridge th= at does NOT involve routing... (like a bigsbyish thing) but short enough to i= nstall on a baritone that doesnt have much space behind the bridge?
Im bu= ilding a bit of a frankenstein guitar (lapsteel) froma  hunk of wood, a= nd Im thinking of putting my deusenburg multi bender on it... I hardly use i= t on the bari... prob more use on a slide... But I need a replacement... May= be just a regular trem... and doesnt have to be able to do Steve Vie swoops.= .. just subtle wanging...

thanks in advance

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www.markfrancombe.com
<= a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" target=3D= "_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com
h= ttp://vimeo.com/user825094
http://ww= w.looop.no
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= --Apple-Mail-AF4B3BC4-6FAC-4C00-BCA5-FE77ADD1DE43-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 20 04:36:21 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFFD01016DA; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 04:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=finleysound-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to; bh=fhz/3gPyTXmb7kU0rVZZykunVtjDqFtf2YAJyfpAdEg=; b=nGny8LzTcXezY4xVp6q13Sshzd0PjOj68VbRfpuS/g/Z6k3kM883TrURWkAOK2Bpnj Y13I/VGD3fYXeuN47ELn2iAC6eZmu1S8APf3URX3eAIUqK4Ofu/tym2vkbBkxFSrATeY rkvpwMmdVG6dtFcX+9/YQt8Z7lfpxF0feQ+6zDc3KSW/nSPboiA4Lz4WytToXRO38+4c u7UXDmR5i7FtfeaYrZr1Q63hct0Sie8PhOFicmhP1EtS7b0qAJJ17RqKjdbBmfpgrkYZ QPL5vl2F8l33oue81gTUtc6Y8/JHaQSqrEzXCDW0ilhT8yEYmzmzz4da6AALeskvjLrz 4RAg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:message-id:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=fhz/3gPyTXmb7kU0rVZZykunVtjDqFtf2YAJyfpAdEg=; b=R7JdX0JLjX+kWCoUwmALe+HcXis0C0kKZ/t9q6hPi9hAZR8vs8WFjriE1SGoSjK/9q E/8Zb6idtZbHj343R7UKLZTfEG57QXIUs+1U+69gPkZRqaFVb8hl0SEgcynzmavxc7w+ iz4QGQH4LWyLw/4y5xGK7LDN/yEY9N2an0qvdFKXGgb+wsvRo/YflVEEJT/YbGNVakS0 MIEeBuIgAeYlrIVN3zfFScWb5gbAtkiNMX9Dz6/Qh86caHvz/UfZhRXmsWV/8nvxpLJi FJZx22e9zImUUDbHGKo2htFzLLU2C+tLHPa/PcHbje5iW0F7sP3vUFzezYRNI2Jp1ZaX kO6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkjl9mls7ll2BmTEBaLHk2Qn64uzkLXI/Iahxy6ccNEYiOkpcbdbaJkNaMsDgr6Vr5F7UQFx8mmkTjgOWubO44ACwECUA== X-Received: by 10.98.65.9 with SMTP id o9mr49151971pfa.114.1453264580738; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:36:20 -0800 (PST) From: Matt McCabe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8FDCA6DA-2FDE-4241-A18D-2B6775F92A9B" Message-Id: <6AA76BB2-3FDE-4628-836A-3226AD6D4317@finleysound.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: tremelo bridge? Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:36:14 -0800 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 04:36:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_8FDCA6DA-2FDE-4241-A18D-2B6775F92A9B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Like others have said, Stetsbar. It=E2=80=99s a very mild tremolo, no = radical dive bombs here. I=E2=80=99ve never played a guitar with a = Bigsby, but the Stetsbar played as I imagined a Bigsby would. If that = makes any sense! Matt --- King Never - An alternative and melodic = progressive rock band. Loomis, CA, USA Connect with us on Facebook = and Twitter = .= --Apple-Mail=_8FDCA6DA-2FDE-4241-A18D-2B6775F92A9B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Like others have said, Stetsbar.  It=E2=80= =99s a very mild tremolo, no radical dive bombs here.  I=E2=80=99ve = never played a guitar with a Bigsby, but the Stetsbar played as I = imagined a Bigsby would.  If that makes any sense!

Matt

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= --Apple-Mail=_8FDCA6DA-2FDE-4241-A18D-2B6775F92A9B-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 20 11:43:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 132381016D6; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lvVC0wmGLnDd1ODicKqv2hawZOYK78LduPywCWcLM70=; b=iow0j/1eL2A5/hucc/sO0rjcqxQWiyeGbqszOnt0UCo8MtYSX8k4qg6gpX66jfcsMz oe5qX8kPRgekr0IQ0Ng9tIeZG2utuNn3sf1xdrlljsRBBJcK15mtGxLVeut11gAjQZTj WOJ0EgRkqDhnvoKfnhg2gw2e9MMOHrp//Abfpesjavg3wUYDJKCcS1RGclBOjpzTLpzd YPrxV38GD40YcrjbwqPHWKhh4dXJZsMFp/DmclJWeLr8poxsqO5En5JrqOJRjZcih2kU kBKl3R6/mMbh4VczHRNlHYZDryMQFuMjzwiNqOsWVqDxcCQ7CyaHE3U1x2AgBB+KMfrr 5Xlw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lvVC0wmGLnDd1ODicKqv2hawZOYK78LduPywCWcLM70=; b=HlpO9X0HkrZG5N0BzUP1DphCgq0N1qCazCU+vKHlimpZw7i7KkYeJ55VTu+HcKJQ2H ZXAMtYRz7lh9Pe66AKfsZhLCk+W0iUpphSWoS10gLCmjAnivYukoEgLpQPVHG2ZXjMys sMTDy+6ANtEe/OJo1Gv+7+uVHlnj0aav+VRESYeUEcfhDhEU86/sl3XzKGhETLFWgu7W CxfW9bJGMKneNdtUQ3Jed2xQOEAnAvIhSOJZeycpGFYF33AQtNT6cCugy3F076RuzCeD XGvlDaDctnbtXzzzEO9ooQVkNNRTmn5nf6hOAONrvpbJOF1IYGDcI7nq3qS7jXns5hga cRhA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnFpN1vm6xK30yG5/lwxujXjdD/twhhA92cl4WYpceG/P4te4zm08oGmZvDs1yuuwTjgQNUIRC+hUrFZUSchYcQ7L8DYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.219.35 with SMTP id pl3mr10616322lbc.32.1453290196890; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 03:43:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6AA76BB2-3FDE-4628-836A-3226AD6D4317@finleysound.com> References: <6AA76BB2-3FDE-4628-836A-3226AD6D4317@finleysound.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:43:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tremelo bridge? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:43:18 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Matt McCabe wrote: >> I=E2=80=99ve never played a guitar with a Bigsby, but the Stetsbar play= ed as I >> imagined a Bigsby would. And I've never played a guitar with a Stetsabar, but my Bigsby played as I imagined a Stetsbar would. :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 20 12:10:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A59DC1016E4; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=MthMcQyXEBZmq9+sMF9oZ8YOaHUqfy4YJdaIuan7ahM=; b=iBgixitWFYaoFryrrHscCH9c5V1PHzN1060eTeVOzURXTJQBppBF5xTjLxiYDv3xLZ OgebQDS+oQB7oV3k8/TYmHSnYCri8oyDRsyoS499fkyzfAJ34FE44rpJq2BfE888qLTP K7NA4J7ykNRARAcFVVZJ26AvZHlkdMDrL1UkVQtaGOPsmrY+7Al9SLYEPEYh8EZap5wV rH1pK7azlGg0XcCvDCUFbCfjBO2lLNVZGO1BlN2LUjCvlR3JWoJNe0bOI94LaVppQ8/L s/J4FSgNDZol49ZqQQPX0dwG7Tgizmb8Ss34jrFu8TAju2VxtdnIJ1SI0EL31JR43I4P IZNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=MthMcQyXEBZmq9+sMF9oZ8YOaHUqfy4YJdaIuan7ahM=; b=lqdhBFn6DGy3Zt2Krt0eh/ZjZWzRBZads9WgNOZ8LD6LMjulpVz/2Ow/FD2TTap3Oh UcYiDhYfI603U0hQVncgJ5jFuori1w0jpn4rj/LPOA4hUDiF8PgFeAb81LHx+rFVARmv c+DOuJcIteRjGR3L20UtnGnvHhzeGQIqnAbHn7WgGa/q1mJoPIPszdpmy8o7NwfuyWCm 3FylPv3Z2CVIqorwHgCYFRrvwjFxPAsneGOsKghRJckJVH8wuP2tCB2FAzRlVT6SXuk5 f5cTiSB+hmEWa41AKzxR33StCRloxRkD5wM2ebwZ1So4zNVM4QmazXNns1dbuPJCD2jE z68g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZMCXXenBt2/jn0rp6AcwAtKqhdg115qBSSQiMi1BO2urJajLT1CxdKlqVxSK/C8VKaIiUBbiuST+3sFWBdKvu963eZg== X-Received: by 10.202.75.15 with SMTP id y15mr24061269oia.16.1453291845645; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 04:10:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6AA76BB2-3FDE-4628-836A-3226AD6D4317@finleysound.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:10:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tremelo bridge? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c17f5436fa730529c2e05b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:10:46 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c17f5436fa730529c2e05b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think of Bigsbys as having a lot of metal all the to the end of the guitar... as its a bari I dont think theres room... On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Matt McCabe > wrote: > >> I=E2=80=99ve never played a guitar with a Bigsby, but the Stetsbar pl= ayed as I > >> imagined a Bigsby would. > > And I've never played a guitar with a Stetsabar, but my Bigsby played as = I > imagined a Stetsbar would. :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --001a11c17f5436fa730529c2e05b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think of Bigsbys as having a lot of metal all the to the= end of the guitar... as its a bari I dont think theres room...

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at= 12:43 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:36 AM= , Matt McCabe <lists@finleysoun= d.com> wrote:
>>=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve never played a guitar with a Bigsby, but the St= etsbar played as I
>> imagined a Bigsby would.

And I've never played a guitar with a Stetsabar, but my Bigsby p= layed as I
imagined a Stetsbar would. :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
w= ww.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen




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--001a11c17f5436fa730529c2e05b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 05:20:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1257C133137; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 05:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DnQxRUlh6DcqRQm1sNlv4b0K1CFrPj7eC3GZrffN4xk=; b=zBztEuqghtDK9uwn7yzH3LtXW5pjp6MEOPBMmNrfrf7SExP4Pq80XnwAxcWL2zVq0D JFUlpwNrBhw/GAN5U+xP7ilWvpkoNTE0ymwYWOOiJqHtHIbn8rwZROboIUwjaEBQtr01 O9VzrWCyIeBSKQOfEp1JA9bM8GnrUKVtngnUJZpdTkqH9n7iJQIa287bdtYb5m8hYXO7 FmyGkTWXXIYvQ4CUiePzEVNBtRdo/e/9xXIoKSjtgnSLQ3XeNhk2Omdu3YVCfNL5bkel uRV1I5lkdNHQaK0rTzehGhx8+w+c5Mfkue9IQtxNNfeeA40V7yNUUsbWuLAb81SACqy/ 4eqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DnQxRUlh6DcqRQm1sNlv4b0K1CFrPj7eC3GZrffN4xk=; b=boSUpNZQaThWe1zVxvFNNKJAJ5ksulvbZtEjFdOEVpbfoJhnj7m67x/Ifsipz2geH+ stcQ/sJTntr2ejfUA0GRNp5GQ34BjLekRVHhDENs01ullMWTD+VA/o1GV+F4sRXPX4LQ uYCQkvbhPH4L0dHGmtHafRYQ83qnyWWwIF3ZKLKGvQEsF9Y7hqh8p6c5OicTex8StFeT ePhffZgIFT5bg6nHDIrSBVyapyvrA1SlywwtrX2i/LfGpsx+5ASSm3LsMoJiYXuBVpP2 fhyxeu/5v2OeAfMPhjVemzvsFjQ9rO8ATV17SGgxGeDJYvOGTTG/riSa9x6giq3m8iR3 0lRA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTOoVKM4kdcflCqQowuk6kwoiZTl0Zl9EFroqYMLb2yOtEmA8Y8k5B32ocRnoUGLpMMwefcgagJHtFDsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.37.5.84 with SMTP id 81mr87977ybf.19.1454217600375; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:20:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 23:20:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: software looper From: EJ Singson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c009f47f25df052a9a6b65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 05:20:00 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c009f47f25df052a9a6b65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard. I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 m-series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible. I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback. Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need something absolutely stable. Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the next drum track. (I'm not sure if I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video of my playing where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping. https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0) Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to look into? Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and no longer being supported. --001a11c009f47f25df052a9a6b65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've been a looper for a good= while now. I'm transition over to software looping, and cutting down o= n my pedalboard.

I still haven't found the perfect softwar= e yet, which is really frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my relian= ce on the line6 m-series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible.
I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts t= he loop from the beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends p= layback.

Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can'= t get it running stable no matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being peri= lous as it is, I need something absolutely stable.

Right = now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by=20 preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the next drum track.

(I'm not sure if= =20 I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video of my playing=20 where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping.=20 https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0)<= br>

Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to l= ook into?

Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and pro= grams are ancient and no longer being supported.
--001a11c009f47f25df052a9a6b65-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 10:23:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45D6BFF972; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 565 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:23:56 UTC Authentication-Results: sfrmc.priv.atos.fr; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none (no policy) header.from=Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com X-SFR-UUID: 20160131101429840.CD39C700047F@msfrf2118.sfr.fr From: Philippe ollivier Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: software looper Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 11:14:30 +0100 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A358AA22-455D-4517-9944-DC22686AE6CC" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:23:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_A358AA22-455D-4517-9944-DC22686AE6CC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, Have you tried Logelloop? It is very stable on Yosemite. Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in the = current but the fix is coming very soon now and I can send you offlist a = link to the beta who fix it) It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them. And much more is possible! You=E2=80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com = . Thanks, Philippe =20 > Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson a = =C3=A9crit : >=20 > I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to = software looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard. >=20 > I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really = frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 = m-series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible. >=20 > I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the = beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback. >=20 > Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no = matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need = something absolutely stable. >=20 > Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can = preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by = preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle = preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then = banking up to the next drum track.=20 >=20 > (I'm not sure if I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a = video of my playing where I bank up and down through some drum tracks = with looping. https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0 = ) >=20 > Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to look into?=20 >=20 > Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient = and no longer being supported.=20 --Apple-Mail=_A358AA22-455D-4517-9944-DC22686AE6CC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi,
Have you tried Logelloop?
It is very stable on Yosemite.
Each = track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in the = current but the fix is coming very soon now and I can send you offlist a = link to the beta who fix it)
It is possible to = preload loops and record overdubs on them.
And = much more is possible!

You=E2=80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com.
Thanks,
Philippe


 

Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson <ejsingson@gmail.com>= a =C3=A9crit :

I've been a = looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software looping, = and cutting down on my pedalboard.

I = still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really = frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 = m-series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible.
I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts = the loop from the beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, = ends playback.

Mobius = seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no matter = WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need something = absolutely stable.

Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because = you can preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by=20 preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the next drum track.

(I'm not sure if=20 I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video of my playing=20 where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping.=20 https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0)

Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to = look into?

Besides mobius and live, = so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and no longer being = supported.

= --Apple-Mail=_A358AA22-455D-4517-9944-DC22686AE6CC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 14:11:04 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E015C133132; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=V/B8ojDPo4+2sEsYSYFp3tMi/LttivwtUDVew6g++2Q=; b=Hx5lHDYv4WQUUhNJRyQjG+C3ECUxlImGgG0V/lLpxzz/zyl5qhI3NvPfs+ZQKo4ubf PPsobKqpRjRaGW9CLWB/45s00PrNZCOrBA1sVBWdRaz+XYfSCbL0K2t14u5b1lurMOfc nZlpdT7MEMy9wdPuoOnGV+OlJ1UysFOByCZRZ/FStGketpwZtdpwZ1EDa1OrqeJPi5PJ BXOouyypax0Ni2ukOQ808NKfcyCsTjMKhqRHchX9QMBp45Zvl1VaZ44MsaEXKn/j5Nrk e4tBYLeDCg7Q7TYsuKGrVG/3xXasNUG7dIGFToD6fHw7KJ0bOE4StM/f55/36BEz/ZqU jkJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=V/B8ojDPo4+2sEsYSYFp3tMi/LttivwtUDVew6g++2Q=; b=U2t8nPS2y5ON4isQMCtFXX96LG2lNwpTh6v1+DBPpGdRtDw7vTNVLkkoDMmIOzpxuX SYBAMcA7UOCKeAwpaWfSub1wo+lwwfku1PikIjGcrGr59zTNPLf9En4sgXxFN/r3wXZt kWBjTTocwKLmTKGJQhAAH5xj9SQU/prTE/3Re1vp/vVW1lfVWrSE07RIDAXm0vmNCvJ/ FZtDRXhZ7GeF89xqiOLie1PyJ0OU38elAe5/T51WmMKVKlodXhV0jsjq1d/23lIsoxEH vpeUzZJBFeCmarZxML2Jz1CKDsbHlOV1eWEl4vemJoLBwPe1iP5stDPTh5hjaB+rgY5A c3kA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTrwp075RcIodudK7cPyuenYkQ+h3T45IlffnwDwLG0kirY7ejaCmw2D0GgL4ag4g== X-Received: by 10.107.137.142 with SMTP id t14mr19087656ioi.172.1454249464348; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 06:11:04 -0800 (PST) From: EJ Singson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BB6F881F-24B6-45D1-9425-4B7DB717FF55 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: software looper Message-Id: Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 08:11:02 -0600 References: In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:11:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-BB6F881F-24B6-45D1-9425-4B7DB717FF55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One shot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o get a b= eta link?=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 31, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier wrote: >=20 > Hi, > Have you tried Logelloop? > It is very stable on Yosemite. > Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in the c= urrent but the fix is coming very soon now and I can send you offlist a link= to the beta who fix it) > It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them. > And much more is possible! >=20 > You=E2=80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com. > Thanks, > Philippe >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >> Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson a =C3=A9c= rit : >>=20 >> I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software l= ooping, and cutting down on my pedalboard. >>=20 >> I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really frustrati= ng. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 m-series/dl4 styl= e switch functions makes it impossible. >>=20 >> I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the be= ginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback. >>=20 >> Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no ma= tter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need somethin= g absolutely stable. >>=20 >> Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can prelo= ad loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by preloading dr= um tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading track= s, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the ne= xt drum track.=20 >>=20 >> (I'm not sure if I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video o= f my playing where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping.= https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0) >>=20 >> Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to look into?=20 >>=20 >> Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and n= o longer being supported. >=20 --Apple-Mail-BB6F881F-24B6-45D1-9425-4B7DB717FF55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One shot is totally integral. I would l= ove to try your program! Can o get a beta link? 

Sent from my iP= hone

On Jan 31, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier <Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote:

Hi,
Have= you tried Logelloop?
It is very stable on Yos= emite.
Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 but= ton (a bit broken in the current but the fix is coming very soon now and I c= an send you offlist a link to the beta who fix it)
It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them.
And much more is possible!
 

L= e 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson <ejsingson@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit :

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I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software l= ooping, and cutting down on my pedalboard.

I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really frustratin= g. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 m-series/dl4 style= switch functions makes it impossible.

I n= eed to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the beginnin= g and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback.
Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I ca= n't get it running stable no matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being per= ilous as it is, I need something absolutely stable.

Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman= , because you can preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by=20 preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the next drum track.

(I'm not sure if=20 I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video of my playing=20 where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping.=20 https://youtu.be/IVN24TFV= Oe0)

Does anyone have any sugge= stions for me on software to look into?

= Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and no l= onger being supported.

= --Apple-Mail-BB6F881F-24B6-45D1-9425-4B7DB717FF55-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 15:28:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F78C133132; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 15:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Authentication-Results: sfrmc.priv.atos.fr; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none (no policy) header.from=Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com X-SFR-UUID: 20160131152833867.D3B84700007E@msfrf2321.sfr.fr From: Philippe ollivier Message-Id: <2FAD2604-8456-4969-8EA8-A630B6785AE2@logellou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: software looper Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 16:28:32 +0100 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_857B484B-E908-45AD-9F8C-4DD04E75FC73" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 15:28:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_857B484B-E908-45AD-9F8C-4DD04E75FC73 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 OK, I send it off list. Philippe > Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ Singson a = =C3=A9crit : >=20 > One shot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o = get a beta link?=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Jan 31, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier = > = wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >> Have you tried Logelloop? >> It is very stable on Yosemite. >> Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in = the current but the fix is coming very soon now and I can send you = offlist a link to the beta who fix it) >> It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them. >> And much more is possible! >>=20 >> You=E2=80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com = . >> Thanks, >> Philippe >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>> Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson > a =C3=A9crit : >>>=20 >>> I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to = software looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard. >>>=20 >>> I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really = frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 = m-series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible. >>>=20 >>> I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from = the beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback. >>>=20 >>> Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable = no matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need = something absolutely stable. >>>=20 >>> Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can = preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by = preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle = preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then = banking up to the next drum track.=20 >>>=20 >>> (I'm not sure if I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a = video of my playing where I bank up and down through some drum tracks = with looping. https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0 = ) >>>=20 >>> Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to look into?=20 >>>=20 >>> Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient = and no longer being supported.=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail=_857B484B-E908-45AD-9F8C-4DD04E75FC73 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 OK, I send it off list.
Philippe

Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ Singson <ejsingson@gmail.com>= a =C3=A9crit :

One shot is totally integral. I would love to try your = program! Can o get a beta link? 

Sent = from my iPhone

On Jan 31, 2016, at = 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier <Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote:
Hi,
Have you tried = Logelloop?
It is very stable on = Yosemite.
Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99= button (a bit broken in the current but the fix is coming very soon now = and I can send you offlist a link to the beta who fix it)
It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on = them.
And much more is possible!

You=E2=80=99ll find the = demo at www.logelloop.com.
Thanks,
Philippe


 

Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson = <ejsingson@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit :

I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm = transition over to software looping, and cutting down on my = pedalboard.

I still haven't found the = perfect software yet, which is really frustrating. Ableton Live comes = close, but my reliance on the line6 m-series/dl4 style switch functions = makes it impossible.

I need to have a = "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the beginning and when = it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback.

Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I = can't get it running stable no matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping = being perilous as it is, I need something absolutely stable.

Right now, I'm also = stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by=20 preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the next drum track.

(I'm not sure if=20 I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video of my playing=20 where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping.=20 https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0)

Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to = look into?

Besides mobius and live, = so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and no longer being = supported.

<= br class=3D"">
= --Apple-Mail=_857B484B-E908-45AD-9F8C-4DD04E75FC73-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 20:06:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D996BFF7A6; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4118 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:06:38 UTC From: William Walker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_740B72EF-85AB-48EF-9382-EAD5E32AE249" Subject: Re: Tremelo bridge? Message-Id: <00A32585-7A28-438B-BA5E-6F9DCD6DD2F6@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:57:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:06:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_740B72EF-85AB-48EF-9382-EAD5E32AE249 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Mark, if you are serious about a Bigsby these guys make products = that allow you , like a mounting bracket that, depending on what kind of = bridge you have,can use existing holes and though Bigsby's require no = routing, and another ad on string retainer product that makes the hassle = of Bigsby restringing, a breeze. http://www.vibramate.com/index.php Bigsby's are made of aluminum that effects the tone in what many = consider to be a positive way, adding a bit more zing in the highs and = might be ideal for your baritone adding a bit of clarity, and they don't = add lots of weight to the instrument the enough that if you have a heavy = neck that tends to want to dip down. Stew Mac carries several = different models=20 http://www.stewmac.com/?gclid=3DCKSL8PXc1MoCFUWVfgodLYwOCw The Stets bar products are very cool as well, though Im not nearly as = familiar with playing them, in fact I can count on one finger the times = I have. The design is sound and the guy who makes them is a nice chap. Cheers Bill= --Apple-Mail=_740B72EF-85AB-48EF-9382-EAD5E32AE249 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hey = Mark,   if you are serious about a Bigsby these guys make products = that allow you , like a mounting bracket that, depending on what kind of = bridge you have,can use existing holes and  though Bigsby's require = no routing, and another ad on string retainer product that makes the = hassle of Bigsby restringing, a breeze.
 Bigsby's are made of aluminum that effects the = tone in what many consider to be a positive way, adding a bit more zing = in the highs and might be ideal for your baritone adding a bit of = clarity, and they don't add lots of weight to the instrument the enough = that if you have a heavy neck that  tends to want to dip down. =  Stew Mac carries several different models 
The = Stets bar products are very cool as well, though Im not nearly as = familiar with playing them,  in fact I can count on one finger the = times I have.
The design is sound and the guy who makes =  them is a nice = chap.
 Cheers
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail=_740B72EF-85AB-48EF-9382-EAD5E32AE249-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 20:31:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D085FF972; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ENqZpFrg4tVhglpcwH/+TPy/Jy/zM6jO6IP0rqjL1U8=; b=XS4Jfzk0PI4lEq0209BBGeebTqpOPzI6wp/JKXPVjFO/kdLPtGEJTzgqy9JbFwSt4P pALh6hEheV+luW1sIOIiNS1CpFwal/AmWZRWlMH4wFLYrZuWSApxz41k6BnpAQNy0wHG 8tRYrlB7ETfeCqe8J19ALYz2rddi7SFo+XG0MxS8A01DuXxX8c6FAJLRDxiHoLkxQbHk ErEX2XJ3puFcN29ddaxGl1XecmknDtHH1HmkRwk0gy1b2Vmvb1fFwn+diRAL+5EwaCjY KEgwBzSrJG1hDPBZLlo/PnWwBRbwizBlywcm6xl148exglpHX/aJcqLfv3hCbldT5fiV 9cUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ENqZpFrg4tVhglpcwH/+TPy/Jy/zM6jO6IP0rqjL1U8=; b=cPrujYeYWob9iHvr69MIkzt5sYnE7903QoxsBB6g0Ymm5VKMA/+SaKh3RunQ8RGOFV BnBy/cLwI68Bd9oSzO5PxSYkMCswA11i1mJCO53EyGfTy9/rl5TmUvlVqX82H/sa7Gy+ XfXQTQ7Gt2hI+dOHvIhs/heSj/GPceyxM7+AlKZ6GcSGqrvOwzO9g0lglxrwRCtW3+4g mBTtlhiu4M6g5oNDHpdaUEtu65Vb42bt28jiL2CR/aUW9N+2cKSCYaXwy9ZAunDH0YQb SWLkkvBGF2pSVCTFB4eiPpsAEQQ/jZAys0mqV/pvsvYprinqcCoUGD56xFyH6CI2Bue2 Sb5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQ7NVq3xhYZpte7hbLD1eSpJmmbqGMQSns6nFD0Ts+68uDkqqKGe/inLpvhBAGjgE6msa233bjhPSnlkg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.170.138 with SMTP id am10mr3507433lbc.15.1454272297871; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:31:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <00A32585-7A28-438B-BA5E-6F9DCD6DD2F6@baymoon.com> References: <00A32585-7A28-438B-BA5E-6F9DCD6DD2F6@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:31:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tremelo bridge? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:31:39 +0000 (UTC) That bracket Bigsby looks cool! I was very fond of the sound of a trad Bigsby I had on a Hofner jazz box guitar. Jazz semi acoustics typically are a bit muddy and I had the impression that the Bigsby's metal-wear made the tone more stable with a firm upper mid range and some more top. Unfortunately a friend parked is ass on that guitar when it was left in an armchair at his place and it got totally wrecked. By mistake he threw away the Bigsby too with the scattered pieces of wood. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 7:57 PM, William Walker wrote: > Hey Mark, if you are serious about a Bigsby these guys make products that > allow you , like a mounting bracket that, depending on what kind of bridge > you have,can use existing holes and though Bigsby's require no routing, and > another ad on string retainer product that makes the hassle of Bigsby > restringing, a breeze. > http://www.vibramate.com/index.php > Bigsby's are made of aluminum that effects the tone in what many consider > to be a positive way, adding a bit more zing in the highs and might be ideal > for your baritone adding a bit of clarity, and they don't add lots of weight > to the instrument the enough that if you have a heavy neck that tends to > want to dip down. Stew Mac carries several different models > http://www.stewmac.com/?gclid=CKSL8PXc1MoCFUWVfgodLYwOCw > The Stets bar products are very cool as well, though Im not nearly as > familiar with playing them, in fact I can count on one finger the times I > have. > The design is sound and the guy who makes them is a nice chap. > Cheers > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 20:44:59 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C007FF973; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=CgzxuIqhAV0yNnQxFdio8byujJYrgRdpBdyMjMamh3U=; b=ett6vbHCGEQp+Uhv31rA//TdVotUo3TiGWXbOyHombc81jVUkUFzfvrMCdgV6+8ypB kyqBnQf7cEMPuN98I+xiTiut2cdiRDpYkshyNZmxYRQVgnzicH+9qHXtPErZLfmYSGDz GeJt/Ei4LH9F5Gh9A0QgJ17WP3vP7bEEX+NoTiKh01qi6U09B0k9bqzoMuAKujTr52UU 3x8BuylHjCeiTYNW4uU/0r6x6x6Q19MdlJJU/uydFoS9d3u1zsm9LFgLffiXePUmz9sG xwG+tYKiGo9shmIlct9x50SwreGuKH2Etr/rbZXY4pVz3pIeYvp+ewL2TX5XwGAktWC8 5Z2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CgzxuIqhAV0yNnQxFdio8byujJYrgRdpBdyMjMamh3U=; b=Gs+FWZM9HcCVI5dyKHbOXKaTxg6qPCxSI4AZjYnvRA/Rwke06ZXAOOhq+HHNbV46kT mlwEQRFqLdlOyzw3bYlDijcBCuXnAsh1Od6MkMqlaBstThWI3xTT+OiC0zebfnCXRri7 ldRHSVn9MJ13ocS4grsHu+lHe+qysKkv+9gzCEz4joaRCiXhRKqcrtO8mbEM1QBPEfg9 N9KjQaoe/TG8JIcKFuFaXP2UsHXuu96t1L0ySW2JlL3h5y9OI+Gln0okabLmbwMEw+R8 6NP2HqqtherUJERGR3yjZa7uay7EBjRpGi3qmjzGw8+UDcxQAYH1qooJakzrmyuyFUDi IaGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTw4me8aQqwHamh0EExTV1uI42Pet36j06Psgq4etR1cVa8gjzZ+s0fci/Hy2y5I1Qv0U86HuFnvNQHEg== X-Received: by 10.194.71.77 with SMTP id s13mr22966305wju.175.1454273098557; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:44:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2FAD2604-8456-4969-8EA8-A630B6785AE2@logellou.com> References: <2FAD2604-8456-4969-8EA8-A630B6785AE2@logellou.com> From: Torben Scharling Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:44:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: software looper To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0c48a722fcc052aa757ae Resent-Message-ID: <96BmNB.A.O0D.LJnrWB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) --047d7bf0c48a722fcc052aa757ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am in the middle of starting my setup from scratch cause el crap refused to log in after the latest update, and I didn't have a recent enough backup (silly me). After scanning the gear slutz I decided to go with 10.9.5 (Mavericks..the one before yosemite). How's mobius on that os x version? Maybe more stable? Also, why don't you set those pre-loaded drum loops up in your DAW, instead of into a hardware device, and switch it around with midi foot controllers `? On a side note I'm not fond of the look and approach of ableton live (maybe I need to update my brain and start using it though?) cause I'm not finding Reaper stable enough (time will tell if it changes now that I'm doing a serious re-start, checking everything much more thoroughly than before). I dig dig diggg the MainStage ability to keep a midi note going, change sound to another sound/preset/patch without it abruptly changing over to the selected sound/prese... something I don't think most other DAWS can do, still to this day?! Or has that finally been added to ableton live?? I guess if I should ditch my boomerang III + side car it would be if I could setup a software equivalent with the exact same functions (Cause I need/want to be able to individually adjust the loop volumes, and unfortunately Mike from Rang is not helpful with that with his weird design on those endless digital rotary encoders, that one day for sure will be kicked and break, and are impossible to operate with your foot in a live situ..so we/I have to come up with a DIY solution ourselves, and perhaps the only solution is to drop using hardware loopers/boomerang. Luckily I just received two really nice silent click 12 and 4 button usb midi controller pedals with individual light indicators, and I'm gonna try to setup those to work as the ultimate loopers, if I don't get a handle on those pesky encoders on the rang. Some people have mentioned buying 4 Third hand pedals to adjust them, but that would be a much heavier, and big pedal board, than what I had in mind, which was to have 4 EV-5's doing the volume changing of those 4 loops, and that's not technically possible.) On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Philippe ollivier < Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote: > OK, I send it off list. > Philippe > > > Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ Singson a =C3=A9c= rit : > > One shot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o get > a beta link? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 31, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier < > Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote: > > Hi, > Have you tried Logelloop? > It is very stable on Yosemite. > Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in the = current but the > fix is coming very soon now and I can send you offlist a link to the beta > who fix it) > It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them. > And much more is possible! > > You=E2=80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com. > Thanks, > Philippe > > > > > Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson a =C3=A9c= rit : > > I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software > looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard. > > I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really > frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 > m-series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible. > > I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the > beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback. > > Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no > matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need > something absolutely stable. > > Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can > preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by > preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle > preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then > banking up to the next drum track. > > (I'm not sure if I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video o= f > my playing where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping= . > https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0) > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to look into? > > Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and > no longer being supported. > > > > --=20 Torben Scharling --047d7bf0c48a722fcc052aa757ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am in the middle of starting my setup from scratch cause= el crap refused to log in after the latest update, and I didn't have a= recent enough backup (silly me). After scanning the gear slutz I decided t= o go with 10.9.5 (Mavericks..the one before yosemite). How's mobius on = that os x version? Maybe more stable? Also, why don't you set those pre= -loaded drum loops up in your DAW, instead of into a hardware device, and s= witch it around with midi foot controllers `?

On a side = note I'm not fond of the look and approach of ableton live (maybe I nee= d to update my brain and start using it though?) cause I'm not finding = Reaper stable enough (time will tell if it changes now that I'm doing a= serious re-start, checking everything much more thoroughly than before). I= dig dig diggg the MainStage ability to keep a midi note going, change soun= d to another sound/preset/patch without it abruptly changing over to the se= lected sound/prese... something I don't think most other DAWS can do, s= till to this day?! Or has that finally been added to ableton live??
I guess if I should ditch my boomerang III + side car it would = be if I could setup a software equivalent with the exact same functions (Ca= use I need/want to be able to individually adjust the loop volumes, and unf= ortunately Mike from Rang is not helpful with that with his weird design on= those endless digital rotary encoders, that one day for sure will be kicke= d and break, and are impossible to operate with your foot in a live situ..s= o we/I have to come up with a DIY solution ourselves, and perhaps the only = solution is to drop using hardware loopers/boomerang. Luckily I just receiv= ed two really nice silent click 12 and 4 button usb midi controller pedals = with individual light indicators, and I'm gonna try to setup those to w= ork as the ultimate loopers, if I don't get a handle on those pesky enc= oders on the rang. Some people have mentioned buying 4 Third hand pedals to= adjust them, but that would be a much heavier, and big pedal board, than w= hat I had in mind, which was to have 4 EV-5's doing the volume changing= of those 4 loops, and that's not technically possible.)

On Sun, Jan 31= , 2016 at 4:28 PM, Philippe ollivier <Philippe.ollivier@logel= lou.com> wrote:
OK, I send it off=C2=A0list.
Philippe


Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ S= ingson <ejsings= on@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit :

On= e shot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o get a b= eta link?=C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 31, 2016, a= t 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier <Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote:
=
Hi,
Have you tried Logelloop?<= br>
It is very stable on Yosemite.
Each track has a =E2=80=98= play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in the current but the fix is comin= g very soon now and I can send you offlist a link=C2=A0to the beta who fix = it)
It is possible to preload loops and record=C2=A0overdubs on t= hem.
And much more is possible!

You=E2= =80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com.
Thanks,
Philippe


=C2=A0

Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson <ejsingson@gmail.com> a = =C3=A9crit :

I'= ve been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software = looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard.

I still haven'= t found the perfect software yet, which is really frustrating. Ableton Live= comes close, but my reliance on the line6 m-series/dl4 style switch functi= ons makes it impossible.

I need to have a "play once"= ; button, where it starts the loop from the beginning and when it comes to = the end of the loop, ends playback.

Mobius seems to be ab= le to do it, but I can't get it running stable no matter WHAT on yosemi= te. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need something absolutely stabl= e.

Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman= , because you can preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by=20 preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the next drum track.

(I'm not sure if= =20 I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video of my playing=20 where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping.=20 https://youtu.be= /IVN24TFVOe0)

Does anyone have any suggestions for m= e on software to look into?

Besides mobius and live, so many = VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and no longer being supported.





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Torben Scharling
--047d7bf0c48a722fcc052aa757ae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 20:51:04 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 209A1FF99F; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=iipFMrdVD+jvC1HDL5yHDEGq/7kGfYoheTijEaCPwMI=; b=m54z9sWu/OmJLlh7Kaa4RPpLd0Qz4VBQZe2cS6CfqNbAji31WdEoy7oDSQGiF13li4 ByJTL5W8p+a7UIwO4GfkxqLX3EW1EL9Zso4S5SufFp16EOhBR/vjvls4sfkPqTFz4jma nDIlTKmgJnfhAbFb9TsiY+WENTI07SupUAQr1i9YfWL4Kbftz4NEGVVaAwCeXUaA/DdM E56QONI2qyFoLLan3E9MP52/qrVpwwmAvShWTaK0ekCsGrnwXGdUzTtQwMbVyjaDg2xh 86KxNfTQsoJ+QW6aEsgunpMTiFWT4D8SVBuJQOhV1fc4qVxfItUP64YAz5kBVL0nYQtK 27yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=iipFMrdVD+jvC1HDL5yHDEGq/7kGfYoheTijEaCPwMI=; b=cT6tCu+lp7QNwSde+nVZz4O/QVF3F75tpz+LOtqIiFaAmGi3ktvtwIpeNyEHP3cy92 syjBYzH2x9hvZXKu9YLs4otKAUuSBqsprWI2tCvKVNA4a+oFqmXnW1lxA1aEMqcrXhtL CuiCwmj6GNWMvCwtWfPTG7GrDQDZwttg2CSWRE0JLs5NM/Drlkw1WSXokYUbLvtYVm5h GQ6FuQMDye3pTsPvoIpR5L31c01DXzWnWgizQqOnYKnDDT/vY0+egvuF1IHhxy41PX+F N694paPwn0GMoiuI3Nq/3tRg9lhYJb9KkoJ45FCuTy100iexGqVIddEZBEUGwzyRJnrk WIqg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQkOon4hEwavSAcmDfz5t+kvDlghUpxrB79Aq00NyMYM9+wm+jm5kyUNGzDHNlGMLSnEprLj3xOc+LwjA== X-Received: by 10.194.246.37 with SMTP id xt5mr19060631wjc.7.1454273463305; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2FAD2604-8456-4969-8EA8-A630B6785AE2@logellou.com> From: Torben Scharling Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:50:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: software looper To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3a4902fcd8b052aa76db4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:51:04 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c3a4902fcd8b052aa76db4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Btw please please send me the beta also if u don't mind Philipe :) torbenscharling@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Torben Scharling wrote: > I am in the middle of starting my setup from scratch cause el crap refuse= d > to log in after the latest update, and I didn't have a recent enough back= up > (silly me). After scanning the gear slutz I decided to go with 10.9.5 > (Mavericks..the one before yosemite). How's mobius on that os x version? > Maybe more stable? Also, why don't you set those pre-loaded drum loops up > in your DAW, instead of into a hardware device, and switch it around with > midi foot controllers `? > > On a side note I'm not fond of the look and approach of ableton live > (maybe I need to update my brain and start using it though?) cause I'm no= t > finding Reaper stable enough (time will tell if it changes now that I'm > doing a serious re-start, checking everything much more thoroughly than > before). I dig dig diggg the MainStage ability to keep a midi note going, > change sound to another sound/preset/patch without it abruptly changing > over to the selected sound/prese... something I don't think most other DA= WS > can do, still to this day?! Or has that finally been added to ableton liv= e?? > > I guess if I should ditch my boomerang III + side car it would be if I > could setup a software equivalent with the exact same functions (Cause I > need/want to be able to individually adjust the loop volumes, and > unfortunately Mike from Rang is not helpful with that with his weird desi= gn > on those endless digital rotary encoders, that one day for sure will be > kicked and break, and are impossible to operate with your foot in a live > situ..so we/I have to come up with a DIY solution ourselves, and perhaps > the only solution is to drop using hardware loopers/boomerang. Luckily I > just received two really nice silent click 12 and 4 button usb midi > controller pedals with individual light indicators, and I'm gonna try to > setup those to work as the ultimate loopers, if I don't get a handle on > those pesky encoders on the rang. Some people have mentioned buying 4 Thi= rd > hand pedals to adjust them, but that would be a much heavier, and big ped= al > board, than what I had in mind, which was to have 4 EV-5's doing the volu= me > changing of those 4 loops, and that's not technically possible.) > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Philippe ollivier < > Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote: > >> OK, I send it off list. >> Philippe >> >> >> Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ Singson a =C3=A9= crit : >> >> One shot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o ge= t >> a beta link? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 31, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier < >> Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Have you tried Logelloop? >> It is very stable on Yosemite. >> Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in the= current but the >> fix is coming very soon now and I can send you offlist a link to the bet= a >> who fix it) >> It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them. >> And much more is possible! >> >> You=E2=80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com. >> Thanks, >> Philippe >> >> >> >> >> Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson a =C3=A9= crit : >> >> I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software >> looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard. >> >> I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really >> frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 >> m-series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible. >> >> I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the >> beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback. >> >> Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no >> matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need >> something absolutely stable. >> >> Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can >> preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by >> preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle >> preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then >> banking up to the next drum track. >> >> (I'm not sure if I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video >> of my playing where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with >> looping. https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0) >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to look into? >> >> Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and >> no longer being supported. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Torben Scharling > --=20 Torben Scharling --001a11c3a4902fcd8b052aa76db4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Btw please please send me the beta also if u don't min= d Philipe :) torbenscharling@g= mail.com

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Torben Scharling <torbenscharlin= g@gmail.com> wrote:
I am in the middle of starting my setup from scratch cause el cra= p refused to log in after the latest update, and I didn't have a recent= enough backup (silly me). After scanning the gear slutz I decided to go wi= th 10.9.5 (Mavericks..the one before yosemite). How's mobius on that os= x version? Maybe more stable? Also, why don't you set those pre-loaded= drum loops up in your DAW, instead of into a hardware device, and switch i= t around with midi foot controllers `?

On a side note I&= #39;m not fond of the look and approach of ableton live (maybe I need to up= date my brain and start using it though?) cause I'm not finding Reaper = stable enough (time will tell if it changes now that I'm doing a seriou= s re-start, checking everything much more thoroughly than before). I dig di= g diggg the MainStage ability to keep a midi note going, change sound to an= other sound/preset/patch without it abruptly changing over to the selected = sound/prese... something I don't think most other DAWS can do, still to= this day?! Or has that finally been added to ableton live??

=
I guess if I should ditch my boomerang III + side car it would be if I= could setup a software equivalent with the exact same functions (Cause I n= eed/want to be able to individually adjust the loop volumes, and unfortunat= ely Mike from Rang is not helpful with that with his weird design on those = endless digital rotary encoders, that one day for sure will be kicked and b= reak, and are impossible to operate with your foot in a live situ..so we/I = have to come up with a DIY solution ourselves, and perhaps the only solutio= n is to drop using hardware loopers/boomerang. Luckily I just received two = really nice silent click 12 and 4 button usb midi controller pedals with in= dividual light indicators, and I'm gonna try to setup those to work as = the ultimate loopers, if I don't get a handle on those pesky encoders o= n the rang. Some people have mentioned buying 4 Third hand pedals to adjust= them, but that would be a much heavier, and big pedal board, than what I h= ad in mind, which was to have 4 EV-5's doing the volume changing of tho= se 4 loops, and that's not technically possible.)

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Philippe ollivier <= Philipp= e.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote:
OK, I send it off=C2=A0list.
<= span>Philippe


Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ S= ingson <ejsings= on@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit :

On= e shot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o get a b= eta link?=C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 31, 2016, a= t 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier <Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote:
=
Hi,
Have you tried Logelloop?<= br>
It is very stable on Yosemite.
Each track has a =E2=80=98= play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in the current but the fix is comin= g very soon now and I can send you offlist a link=C2=A0to the beta who fix = it)
It is possible to preload loops and record=C2=A0overdubs on t= hem.
And much more is possible!

You=E2= =80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com.
Thanks,
Philippe


=C2=A0

Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson <ejsingson@gmail.com> a = =C3=A9crit :

I'= ve been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software = looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard.

I still haven'= t found the perfect software yet, which is really frustrating. Ableton Live= comes close, but my reliance on the line6 m-series/dl4 style switch functi= ons makes it impossible.

I need to have a "play once"= ; button, where it starts the loop from the beginning and when it comes to = the end of the loop, ends playback.

Mobius seems to be ab= le to do it, but I can't get it running stable no matter WHAT on yosemi= te. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need something absolutely stabl= e.

Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman= , because you can preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by=20 preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the next drum track.

(I'm not sure if= =20 I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video of my playing=20 where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping.=20 https://youtu.be= /IVN24TFVOe0)

Does anyone have any suggestions for m= e on software to look into?

Besides mobius and live, so many = VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and no longer being supported.





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Torben Scharling
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Teddy K= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 21:31:21 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CB5EFF973; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=laexqhei1Bz7XC/aL0w5wFuKj9PfBpiEZHWJXt7fBks=; b=IEm7W6PwNNOWj5dVpOc8t3M/U+GDhzXTft97atWFUBkDH/GWtDTW+uXWNHKdurTAU2 YBRbCQOqz7KzKhYdhgyRm93LdOLiId0sRLTyqMXdY7pRcYHy7SUvWimH+ODIAXpqeuNh H/rQuJwf2eqPB31hdNztMVkbZLz94JZpcH4vjGXfGXuqhZ5o4Tw3VLkf2tUPYha4WZfy 0+qHfhy1/npTp8S1c2bRUVBlHXQ0pamLhE8a6CqblobkgA5AL/AJPbEVg6gLIJIrDP/j cykkYvPLSCnQ1bGUB/J+w7lfgLyay9a0KpZ4Crz0OkcJauzExIrwBwYYs9uXVOhB/HEg 24Cg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=laexqhei1Bz7XC/aL0w5wFuKj9PfBpiEZHWJXt7fBks=; b=hzy3oMpMk02nz4OZY3pFVnd4sG2UauM8rvpwGl1tNmRxgMXtt3TPU8vCpV12CDiH2Q bPR7+xi0cJT/URXRBN8KZZWJ9tzf1Zc7G2LZJrU5wWikz5WWrdrzI0o8PUia4IgXcKgs OgDhln7K0qLKJlpzSMuv11R4K+HM/2KJswgLAh3qwLMOM8J/VS4CkpzQnZXElLGJE7tH Zi5Y5emIjgJYniKhCG5fGPljC+Hc4/WWL0i0biiDURwOyJdodZQIF50GHaiuMjWpO9Cs tdlCL/NnJqJG0Ei8kK7/tP8Up6BMSXZ2abFTHhxAfnckviCJb61jJet8B/AGLaul0ZF9 H0WA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOT4afrYpqjrRzxOG4lL3VibwWAwVvUGQYWkomE8vVsDNR+4jijYDga3b1MsY/FgCw== X-Received: by 10.107.1.2 with SMTP id 2mr2005362iob.194.1454275879886; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 13:31:19 -0800 (PST) From: EJ Singson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-0934F734-6476-41E3-9F20-6D501E46E2AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: software looper Message-Id: <412B5E4E-7F87-4868-8A6B-4576D99F5D21@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 15:31:18 -0600 References: <2FAD2604-8456-4969-8EA8-A630B6785AE2@logellou.com> In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13C75) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:31:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-0934F734-6476-41E3-9F20-6D501E46E2AA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am in the same boat Torben. Even if I could cut down my pedalboard to just= a single jamman in conjunction with a software looper I will be happy. I c= an ditch my hardware guitar/ bass sims, m13, and pedaltrain grande. Carrying my current rig through Chicago was a huge pain. If I can get this t= o work, I would just carry a keyboard stand and a guitar case. I also upgraded to el cap without a time machine backup, when it first relea= sed. I just threw all my files onto an external hard drive and reinstalled Y= osemite Off a bootable flash drive.=20 The issue with loading the tracks in a daw is that I need to loop over them.= Because when I bank. The entire track and what I loop needs to end. M=C3=B6= bius can load loops, but it seemed wonky. Ableton can load loops in the loop= er, but you have to click and drag, which is way too clunky. Luckily I also build my own midi controllers. So that won't be a problem. If= only I could build a software solution for myself. I like ableton just fine if it was as powerful as everyone claimed. I haven'= t looked into main stage. Probably going to try m=C3=B6bius with bitwig next= . I hear it runs 32bit vsts and aus just fine. Honestly I'm not sure how m=C3= =B6bius is on Mavericks. > On Jan 31, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Torben Scharling w= rote: >=20 > I am in the middle of starting my setup from scratch cause el crap refused= to log in after the latest update, and I didn't have a recent enough backup= (silly me). After scanning the gear slutz I decided to go with 10.9.5 (Mave= ricks..the one before yosemite). How's mobius on that os x version? Maybe mo= re stable? Also, why don't you set those pre-loaded drum loops up in your DA= W, instead of into a hardware device, and switch it around with midi foot co= ntrollers `? >=20 > On a side note I'm not fond of the look and approach of ableton live (mayb= e I need to update my brain and start using it though?) cause I'm not findin= g Reaper stable enough (time will tell if it changes now that I'm doing a se= rious re-start, checking everything much more thoroughly than before). I dig= dig diggg the MainStage ability to keep a midi note going, change sound to a= nother sound/preset/patch without it abruptly changing over to the selected s= ound/prese... something I don't think most other DAWS can do, still to this d= ay?! Or has that finally been added to ableton live?? >=20 > I guess if I should ditch my boomerang III + side car it would be if I cou= ld setup a software equivalent with the exact same functions (Cause I need/w= ant to be able to individually adjust the loop volumes, and unfortunately Mi= ke from Rang is not helpful with that with his weird design on those endless= digital rotary encoders, that one day for sure will be kicked and break, an= d are impossible to operate with your foot in a live situ..so we/I have to c= ome up with a DIY solution ourselves, and perhaps the only solution is to dr= op using hardware loopers/boomerang. Luckily I just received two really nice= silent click 12 and 4 button usb midi controller pedals with individual lig= ht indicators, and I'm gonna try to setup those to work as the ultimate loop= ers, if I don't get a handle on those pesky encoders on the rang. Some peopl= e have mentioned buying 4 Third hand pedals to adjust them, but that would b= e a much heavier, and big pedal board, than what I had in mind, which was to= have 4 EV-5's doing the volume changing of those 4 loops, and that's not te= chnically possible.) >=20 > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Philippe ollivier wrote: >> OK, I send it off list. >> Philippe >>=20 >>=20 >>> Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ Singson a =C3=A9= crit : >>>=20 >>> One shot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o ge= t a beta link?=20 >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>=20 >>>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi, >>>> Have you tried Logelloop? >>>> It is very stable on Yosemite. >>>> Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in th= e current but the fix is coming very soon now and I can send you offlist a l= ink to the beta who fix it) >>>> It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them. >>>> And much more is possible! >>>>=20 >>>> You=E2=80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Philippe >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>>> Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson a =C3=A9= crit : >>>>>=20 >>>>> I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to softwa= re looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really frustr= ating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 m-series/dl4 s= tyle switch functions makes it impossible. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the= beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no= matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need somet= hing absolutely stable. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can pr= eload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by preloading= drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tr= acks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the= next drum track.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> (I'm not sure if I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a vide= o of my playing where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with loopi= ng. https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to look into?=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient a= nd no longer being supported.=20 >>>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Torben Scharling --Apple-Mail-0934F734-6476-41E3-9F20-6D501E46E2AA Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am in the same boat Torben. Even if I could cut d= own my pedalboard to just a single jamman  in conjunction with a softwa= re looper I will be happy. I can ditch my hardware guitar/ bass sims, m13, a= nd pedaltrain grande.
Carrying my current rig through Chicago was a= huge pain. If I can get this to work, I would just carry a keyboard stand a= nd a guitar case.

I also upgraded to el cap without a time mac= hine backup, when it first released. I just threw all my files onto an exter= nal hard drive and reinstalled Yosemite Off a bootable flash drive. 

T= he issue with loading the tracks in a daw is that I need to loop over them. B= ecause when I bank. The entire track and what I loop needs to end. M=C3=B6bi= us can load loops, but it seemed wonky. Ableton can load loops in the looper= , but you have to click and drag, which is way too clunky.

Luckily I also b= uild my own midi controllers. So that won't be a problem. If only I could bu= ild a software solution for myself.

=
I like ableton just fine if it was as p= owerful as everyone claimed. I haven't looked into main stage. Probably goin= g to try m=C3=B6bius with bitwig next. I hear it runs 32bit vsts and aus jus= t fine. Hones= tly I'm not sure how m=C3=B6bius is on Mavericks.


On Jan 31, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Torben Scha= rling <torbenscharling@gmail= .com> wrote:

I am in the middle of starting my setup from scratch cause el crap refu= sed to log in after the latest update, and I didn't have a recent enough bac= kup (silly me). After scanning the gear slutz I decided to go with 10.9.5 (M= avericks..the one before yosemite). How's mobius on that os x version? Maybe= more stable? Also, why don't you set those pre-loaded drum loops up in your= DAW, instead of into a hardware device, and switch it around with midi foot= controllers `?

On a side note I'm not fond of the look a= nd approach of ableton live (maybe I need to update my brain and start using= it though?) cause I'm not finding Reaper stable enough (time will tell if i= t changes now that I'm doing a serious re-start, checking everything much mo= re thoroughly than before). I dig dig diggg the MainStage ability to keep a m= idi note going, change sound to another sound/preset/patch without it abrupt= ly changing over to the selected sound/prese... something I don't think most= other DAWS can do, still to this day?! Or has that finally been added to ab= leton live??

I guess if I should ditch my boomerang III += side car it would be if I could setup a software equivalent with the exact s= ame functions (Cause I need/want to be able to individually adjust the loop v= olumes, and unfortunately Mike from Rang is not helpful with that with his w= eird design on those endless digital rotary encoders, that one day for sure w= ill be kicked and break, and are impossible to operate with your foot in a l= ive situ..so we/I have to come up with a DIY solution ourselves, and perhaps= the only solution is to drop using hardware loopers/boomerang. Luckily I ju= st received two really nice silent click 12 and 4 button usb midi controller= pedals with individual light indicators, and I'm gonna try to setup those t= o work as the ultimate loopers, if I don't get a handle on those pesky encod= ers on the rang. Some people have mentioned buying 4 Third hand pedals to ad= just them, but that would be a much heavier, and big pedal board, than what I= had in mind, which was to have 4 EV-5's doing the volume changing of those 4= loops, and that's not technically possible.)

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:28 PM= , Philippe ollivier <Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote:
OK, I send it off list.
Philippe


Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ Si= ngson <ejsingson= @gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit :

One s= hot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o get a beta l= ink? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 31, 2016, at 4:14= AM, Philippe ollivier <Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote:

Hi,
Have you tried Logelloop?
I= t is very stable on Yosemite.
Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2= =80=99 button (a bit broken in the current but the fix is coming very soon n= ow and I can send you offlist a link to the beta who fix it)
= It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them.
= And much more is possible!

You=E2=80=99ll find the d= emo at www.logelloop= .com.
Thanks,
Philippe


=
 

Le 31 ja= nv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson <ejsingson@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit :

=
I've been a looper for a good whil= e now. I'm transition over to software looping, and cutting down on my pedal= board.

I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is= really frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 m= -series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible.

I need t= o have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the beginning and= when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback.

Mobi= us seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no matter WH= AT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need something absol= utely stable.

Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech j= amman, because you can preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by=20 preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then banking up to the next drum track.

(I'm not sure if=20 I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video of my playing=20 where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with looping.=20 https://youtu.be/= IVN24TFVOe0)

Does anyone have any suggestions for me o= n software to look into?

Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs= , AUs, and programs are ancient and no longer being supported.





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= --Apple-Mail-0934F734-6476-41E3-9F20-6D501E46E2AA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 21:40:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B33CFF970; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3698 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:40:09 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trufun.com; s=default; h=Mime-Version:To:Cc:Message-Id:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From; bh=DbhTQLBxQ5/LHPGnLrMulclMPRFHsdryB6LEjKEzXaA=; b=Jw3dVGlbQ2K+QkmCxDlJqD/dh Re0HjYMpIlZybwE2I4BOfqVCfBraczeOCEwunKtciJScty9nVObc/Egj8Nr9vqs6UwpdTtMLeqm1f 6wsBmdEIZhpsUllg9mCMpzxgafX31mTE6krFcCzXdQmRY6gZz1sDfL/IaZ7/S7w8fx51I=; From: David Gans Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_04176D0E-E666-46DB-868D-74205B3996CE" Subject: TC Ditto X4 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:38:30 -0800 Message-Id: Cc: David Gans To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: vps.gdhour.com: acl_c_recent_authed_mail_ips_text_entry: david@trufun.com|trufun.com X-Authenticated-Sender: vps.gdhour.com: david@trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:40:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_04176D0E-E666-46DB-868D-74205B3996CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I just got a TC Ditto X4 looper but I can=E2=80=99t find the manual = online. The box included only a quick-start guide. Anybody know where I = can find the manual? David Gans david@trufun.com http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com --Apple-Mail=_04176D0E-E666-46DB-868D-74205B3996CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8


I just got a TC Ditto X4 looper but I can=E2=80=99t = find the manual online. The box included only a quick-start guide. = Anybody know where I can find the manual?



= --Apple-Mail=_04176D0E-E666-46DB-868D-74205B3996CE-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 31 22:00:21 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EA02FFB44; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 22:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ujN+hP+WmY8BBhu3NNWNKEpklB33HbqCe5knkGRgkHk=; b=cMLDqXYhzVDUfyQbQMbcjcHORCfnwPQCkA1D0U7fmRIoqyOI8cVFJbU6TepOwYH0/L ptbtmySI/YbqsZHHoip43Qc0ZX22Kgq0ScuSeHfSBD4iIu3ctMeC8aUH04/x573MWyLM E92Rm77bChbFYEk0J6bs5UaJLFRByaGYHD2+oyNwGa70PiTq7GeeYKh5JFcz4F7087DO oCQQq+kVP4aglOuWqZs3jamVtN5kgTdkpHKK5rTryb5Z7OirP9cl8PKGVrWVELzQ9BCF s+0lJw46UunE2KL6r3lLFKPDt+X3mYYi24KMqyOLgZ+zbAj7LG4gKX2NP9JljTyIBDmy D9Fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ujN+hP+WmY8BBhu3NNWNKEpklB33HbqCe5knkGRgkHk=; b=POYeZR5nbGL2XcZO7TP7GG4yU+kyhbh+uxqISl8pJfy5OqFBs/GpetoYqafzO3Q3Iy /raPbhhf5hvrAl1FhwncJxn5G2BrTVyxiXjGzM9Y6JYkuAwrq+DnK5i67P0cZZec8oRi FzaFZi9fFaU5W8monzvmqybp76YjlElKi1STUn6QXSu0IKbsfismyFQ2ncb+KHlYDlEv Rrgtsn0+NPW6iae4MM8NBFe+ElXZ9dt5bh7E+BUVpHjKEfnIgNw66e8GgNUpc4xPjcoB SEG3M8RWAysOGICzgywcNu3dheLNiszTxunfodfvX5S/1yEyk6Ge22i23rUlVKc6LGAx Pykw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQOZdiN2WFvzukBOSZSGmgjGaU7wp8K5qtmCgqN66UHfZzMpm/i92K17QtHGcnMDWaie1VLE/ZirzyY1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.160.232 with SMTP id xn8mr5989397lbb.22.1454277620067; Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:00:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <2FAD2604-8456-4969-8EA8-A630B6785AE2@logellou.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 23:00:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: software looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 22:00:21 +0000 (UTC) If you want to go with Mobius you need to get around the fact that Mobius is a 32- bit coded plugin while OS and most DAWs run by 64 bit code. This is no problem on my Macbook Pro with 10.10.4 if running Mobius as a standalone. But since you want to add playback of pre-recorded files you need a host. Three possible hosts I know about: - Plogue Bidule. My favorite, since I like to set the tempo by my playing and the loops I snatch off my playing (rather than setting up a tempo in advance in the host and try to start playing in that tempo... oh the dreadful click track feel...). Bidule can still boot in 32-bit mode on my system and has a rock solid internal timing that allows for setting up Mobius AU/VST plug-in to send out MIDI Clock through the OS IAC bus and then in Bidule you convert that to the Bidule internal sync and set all the VST plugins in your patches to follow that tempo. There is also a nice way to use Bidule as a "rack of pre-looper effect chain patches"; you may have a pedalboard that sends MIDI Program Change events and switch between as many virtual pedalboards you think you need. I use to have about ten of them, some more like virtual mixing console builds. The way to do that is to use Bidules object called Audio Switcher (it reacts by default to incoming MIDI PrCh by swithing its input to the output corresponding to the actual PC number). Bidule has File Player objects, but not time stretching to fit files to tempo. But a drum machine plugin can be set up to follow host tempo. - Mainstage. When Apple shipped Mainstage it was almost a replica of what I used to build in Bidule. But Mainstage has this Playback instrument, that I think would fit your project perfectly. Any files you mix down from Logic will adapt to the host tempo if loaded into one of Mainstage's Playback instruments. For a while I used to mix down 60 to 100 bars long breakbeat loops in Live (with that random clip jumping that swapps around 32th notes of different timbre between the clips) and these drum tracks worked very well for me in Mainstage's Playback when I had Mobius as the tempo sync master and the whole Mainstage host following that tempo (same trick as with Bidule). But the a few versions back Mainstage stopped supporting 32-bit coded AU plugins, so Mobius was not allowed anymore. An old 32-bit version of Mainsstage may work if your OS can run it. A cool thing with Mainstage is that all effects and synths are extremely light on the CPU - and you get Alchemy II which is awesome! (I've noticed when producing recorded music in Logic that when changing Chamel Audio's version of Alchemy in my old projects to the new Alchemy II the CPU load goes down and it also sounds better now. Oh, and those new MIDI plugins; arpeggiators and modulators is also very cool to have in Mainstage.) Speaking about Mainstage own built-in looper, called Loopback, I have noticed that even if it's possible to have Loopback set the global tempo for Mainstage I was never able to get a smooth start when creating the first loop. There's always a bump when Mainstage adapts to the set tempo (Bidule handles this flawlessly). - Bitwig (DAW). Normally a DAW is not a stable option for real-time live audio input processing, as in live looping. )Bidule and Mainstage has no sequencers and that makes them much more stable as a looper host). Bitwig is special though, because it is a modern 64 bit DAW that is built to also support old 32 bit plugins. So in Bitwig you can run all the new stuff together with Mobius and if a plugin crashes there is a sandboxing system in Bitwig that keeps the host running while you simply re-instantiate the plugin te get back on track. You have not told us what you want to use for setting the master tempo, but from my point of view - wanting to set the tempo by the playing and looping - there is one big disadvantage with Bitwig: that it can not follow an external tempo clock. But for a loopist that rather wants to set the tempo by stomping a tap tempo pedal I'd say Bitwig would be the ideal host that will keep on running 32 bit Mobius for a long time into the future. A modern standalone like Logeloop is very cool IMHO. If Logelloop covers your needs you will have a lot of fun with it. Some very cool step sequencing plugins in Logeloop and I also like that the hole damn mixer with all its settings can be saved and recall as a snapshot. Just like that tech guy (forgot his name) programmed for Richie Hawtin in Max4Live. And there is this super nice function that you can set a time inertia for all mixer values, including speed and pitch shift settings of loops, to crawl slowly from one value to the values of the next shapshot. This can sound really exciting, kind of mega morphing, all details fall apart and re-unites ina new groove/chord/key... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Torben Scharling wrote: > I am in the middle of starting my setup from scratch cause el crap refuse= d > to log in after the latest update, and I didn't have a recent enough back= up > (silly me). After scanning the gear slutz I decided to go with 10.9.5 > (Mavericks..the one before yosemite). How's mobius on that os x version? > Maybe more stable? Also, why don't you set those pre-loaded drum loops up= in > your DAW, instead of into a hardware device, and switch it around with mi= di > foot controllers `? > > On a side note I'm not fond of the look and approach of ableton live (may= be > I need to update my brain and start using it though?) cause I'm not findi= ng > Reaper stable enough (time will tell if it changes now that I'm doing a > serious re-start, checking everything much more thoroughly than before). = I > dig dig diggg the MainStage ability to keep a midi note going, change sou= nd > to another sound/preset/patch without it abruptly changing over to the > selected sound/prese... something I don't think most other DAWS can do, > still to this day?! Or has that finally been added to ableton live?? > > I guess if I should ditch my boomerang III + side car it would be if I co= uld > setup a software equivalent with the exact same functions (Cause I need/w= ant > to be able to individually adjust the loop volumes, and unfortunately Mik= e > from Rang is not helpful with that with his weird design on those endless > digital rotary encoders, that one day for sure will be kicked and break, = and > are impossible to operate with your foot in a live situ..so we/I have to > come up with a DIY solution ourselves, and perhaps the only solution is t= o > drop using hardware loopers/boomerang. Luckily I just received two really > nice silent click 12 and 4 button usb midi controller pedals with individ= ual > light indicators, and I'm gonna try to setup those to work as the ultimat= e > loopers, if I don't get a handle on those pesky encoders on the rang. Som= e > people have mentioned buying 4 Third hand pedals to adjust them, but that > would be a much heavier, and big pedal board, than what I had in mind, wh= ich > was to have 4 EV-5's doing the volume changing of those 4 loops, and that= 's > not technically possible.) > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Philippe ollivier > wrote: >> >> OK, I send it off list. >> Philippe >> >> >> Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 15:11, EJ Singson a =C3=A9= crit : >> >> One shot is totally integral. I would love to try your program! Can o ge= t >> a beta link? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 31, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Philippe ollivier >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Have you tried Logelloop? >> It is very stable on Yosemite. >> Each track has a =E2=80=98play once=E2=80=99 button (a bit broken in the= current but the >> fix is coming very soon now and I can send you offlist a link to the bet= a >> who fix it) >> It is possible to preload loops and record overdubs on them. >> And much more is possible! >> >> You=E2=80=99ll find the demo at www.logelloop.com. >> Thanks, >> Philippe >> >> >> >> >> Le 31 janv. 2016 =C3=A0 06:20, EJ Singson a =C3=A9= crit : >> >> I've been a looper for a good while now. I'm transition over to software >> looping, and cutting down on my pedalboard. >> >> I still haven't found the perfect software yet, which is really >> frustrating. Ableton Live comes close, but my reliance on the line6 >> m-series/dl4 style switch functions makes it impossible. >> >> I need to have a "play once" button, where it starts the loop from the >> beginning and when it comes to the end of the loop, ends playback. >> >> Mobius seems to be able to do it, but I can't get it running stable no >> matter WHAT on yosemite. Live looping being perilous as it is, I need >> something absolutely stable. >> >> Right now, I'm also stuck using my digitech jamman, because you can >> preload loops. This makes streamlining live sections much easier by >> preloading drum tracks. Neither mobius or live seem to be able to handle >> preloading tracks, playing them, being able to loop over them, and then >> banking up to the next drum track. >> >> (I'm not sure if I'm explaining that last part well, so here is a video = of >> my playing where I bank up and down through some drum tracks with loopin= g. >> https://youtu.be/IVN24TFVOe0) >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions for me on software to look into? >> >> Besides mobius and live, so many VSTs, AUs, and programs are ancient and >> no longer being supported. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Torben Scharling