From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 00:08:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61EED183558; Thu, 1 May 2014 00:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Pigtronix Infinity, was, DigiTech JamMan Express XT / Jamsync / All Stop/Start From: bill walker In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:06:19 -0700 Message-id: <6A7132FB-FB20-4FCF-BF47-2BDA48BCBB1C@icloud.com> References: <6F0A864C-2AA9-4652-BF6E-2B45F9A2CCC3@icloud.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHhEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdGRAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbGRpiTk1mHB9/XRl4c wceGxoaGhxmHxEKWFwXGQQaBB0HTUsdEkhJHEwFGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdGRAbHhofGxEKXlkXYUZ QeXMRCkxGF2xraxEKQ1oXGx4YBBgfHgQbHQQYGBgRCkJFF3pAG11+YxxCHUwTEQpCThdrRRpSU B5DXFlcaBEKQkwXaRJeUllIZHgSbkMRCkJsF2NMSR1YY0Z4a1paEQpCQBd6SUgBb3hkXxl8bBE KQlgXbVBnf0xraWlCGgURCnBnF2N5Y0N8Gnt9UkZ9EQpwaBdhHlp8H2gFY3peHxEKcGgXY3Jra XBdfGt9WBMRCnBoF2l+Y2BgQEAbY1xAEQpwaBdgYGZ+aWlAXWFMfxEKcGgXZ0RnS3tuYEkBWhg RCnB/F2FBfW5dc0xTSR9jEQpwXxdvEm9rQkBrXEYTWxEKcGwXbk59QWRDXltnS18R X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-04-30_06:2014-04-30,2014-04-30,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=6 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1404300361 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 00:08:09 +0000 (UTC) no , but the TC Ditto x 2 does, it also has 1/2 speed and reverse and undo and can cat as two separate single track loopers which might be cool for you split pickup stick dudes, runs on 2 9 volt batteries, but you probably already new that. also Pedal Train has come up with a cool solution similar to the sanyo power supply, called the Volto, rechargeable, can handle 2000 mili-amps from two daisy chain ports so one could have a busking solute with two Jamman express XT's. On Apr 30, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Are you saying it can run on batteries? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:29 PM, bill walker wrote: >> The Pigtronix Infinity looper is worth a look, I've been checking one out, a very well thought out pedal that will do everything you wanted and more, great for two part song forms, synced or un-synced,has an undo function , and also has features that ambient loopers could love such as loop aging (feedback) reverse and half speed. The manual is very easy to read, They spent a long time developing this pedal and it shows. Switches are smooth Also has the capacity for firmware upgrades as they add more features, which they already have done. You would need an extra 2 button momentary switch to do everything its capable, but its foot print would be not much bigger than two JammanExpress XT's side by side with cables connecting them, you would also need two power supplies instead of one (most tiny footprint digital pedals can't run on a 9 volt battery), yes it would be more money, but you are worth it :) >> Bill >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 01:44:50 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2DBB18354D; Thu, 1 May 2014 01:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 431 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Thu, 01 May 2014 01:44:49 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: DigiTech JamMan Express XT / Jamsync / All Stop/Start From: Mark Hamburg X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <7058372A-4E68-438E-85D6-7A0D87C65729@johnfloridis.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:37:17 -0700 Cc: "noah@noahpeterson.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6D552D8D-F32E-4FAF-B17E-371ADBDF85CD@grubmah.com> References: <6BA07DA1-D23E-428C-B31E-6ABB8A1EF149@johnfloridis.com> <7058372A-4E68-438E-85D6-7A0D87C65729@johnfloridis.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 01:44:49 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:15 PM, john floridis wrote: >=20 > Well, I have two of those in an RC 50 and an RC 300. I am looking for a sm= aller set up for some gigs, one with a smaller footprint. Hence the idea of t= wo inexpensive but reliable, small units. I would like to have at least two i= ndependent loops of different length. You could also look at the Boomerang III. Mark= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 16:04:21 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D341518354D; Thu, 1 May 2014 16:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at d2.hostbaby.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: DigiTech JamMan Express XT / Jamsync / All Stop/Start From: john floridis In-Reply-To: <6D552D8D-F32E-4FAF-B17E-371ADBDF85CD@grubmah.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 10:03:57 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6BA07DA1-D23E-428C-B31E-6ABB8A1EF149@johnfloridis.com> <7058372A-4E68-438E-85D6-7A0D87C65729@johnfloridis.com> <6D552D8D-F32E-4FAF-B17E-371ADBDF85CD@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: <8LZbaC.A.SlE.FCnYTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 16:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Mark, I actually had a Boomerang III, and it was a really nice = unit, but for whatever reason was not as intuitive for me as others. I = also struggled a bit with the footswitches. Nothing wrong with them at = all, I just found I wasn't as accurate with hitting them as I would have = liked.=20 I think it really is time for some clearance sale so I can get the = Infinity. I'll have some stuff up soon like an RC2 and and RC50. JF= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 20:22:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E85C18354D; Thu, 1 May 2014 20:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5362ACF9.8040200@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 16:22:17 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 20:22:46 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY http://galactictravels.info Please SHARE so that more people can listen to and support the artists. Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Adventures in Sound 191" on electro-music media. The Special Focus page is at http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may You will also hear music by AirSculpture (UK) who will play at the Asheville electro-music festival (Asheville, NC) on May 17 and at The Gatherings Concert Series (Philadelphia, PA) on May 18. Additionally, you'll hear music by Pyxl8r, one of the acts playing at the Event Horizon (Philadelphia, PA) on May 9. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. Become a WDIY member now! http://ow.ly/pJhCf From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 2 03:15:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 376D918354E; Fri, 2 May 2014 03:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=JiPLDCRrTc+K3Q2MSBwI8JF7HTSdimtsqQAkWE6/oQk=; b=gPrchlGh04Ihg6Ud5qhvlsLrd3cxMqEaeo1gw49eH+RHaXJ15hl4M9nYl59jzXsKOT i8AqJYo/FbYoQ8mtwlyGHFZH+B/C2Cka8uKSPMcqKrUdjhr0nnqZbHXFFrgsihWPVi6z aXQyzZP8mU11FFOoQDgopyM+pxF4Ip3/c5094Ko04TNpdgXgSlT0rqKgR+3IBUF2yjYW zTS/wN9PpU4i1lkjK1dEVvakDIZg1U5PuTrhn77V7ZtY5wIs6cSSIkmZyA7+n8XwFAVU T7pu1YYq29NxsuC0FxcYPUjOJJz8LDK8mF0MeVkYn5M+h7AbPERUz7MRba4/UJAwDsHZ A44Q== X-Received: by 10.224.165.20 with SMTP id g20mr19270697qay.10.1399000501358; Thu, 01 May 2014 20:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Pigtronix Infinity, was, DigiTech JamMan Express XT / Jamsync / All Stop/Start References: <6F0A864C-2AA9-4652-BF6E-2B45F9A2CCC3@icloud.com> From: Theweg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-405A475A-B94E-43CD-BFD0-4D6104117121 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 23:14:58 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 03:15:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-405A475A-B94E-43CD-BFD0-4D6104117121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, love mine too! Sent from my iPad > On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Dennis Moser wrote:= >=20 > The Pigtronix does use a power supply =E2=80=A6 and I=E2=80=99m falling in= love with mine =E2=80=A6 I did get the extra switch, too =E2=80=A6 very imp= ressed with it so far. >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 >> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Are you saying it can run on batteries? >>=20 >> Greetings from Sweden >>=20 >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:29 PM, bill walker = wrote: >> > The Pigtronix Infinity looper is worth a look, I've been checking one o= ut, a very well thought out pedal that will do everything you wanted and mor= e, great for two part song forms, synced or un-synced,has an undo function ,= and also has features that ambient loopers could love such as loop aging (f= eedback) reverse and half speed. The manual is very easy to read, They spen= t a long time developing this pedal and it shows. Switches are smooth Also h= as the capacity for firmware upgrades as they add more features, which they a= lready have done. You would need an extra 2 button momentary switch to do ev= erything its capable, but its foot print would be not much bigger than two J= ammanExpress XT's side by side with cables connecting them, you would also n= eed two power supplies instead of one (most tiny footprint digital pedals ca= n't run on a 9 volt battery), yes it would be more money, but you are worth i= t :) >> > Bill >> > >=20 --Apple-Mail-405A475A-B94E-43CD-BFD0-4D6104117121 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, love mine too!

Sent from m= y iPad

On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
<= br>
The Pigtronix does u= se a power supply =E2=80=A6 and I=E2=80=99m falling in love with mine =E2=80= =A6 I did get the extra switch, too =E2=80=A6 very impressed with it so far.=



On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Per Boys= en <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you saying it can run on batteries?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com=
http://www.yo= utube.com/perboysen


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:29 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
> The Pigtronix Infinity looper is worth a look,  I've been checking= one out, a very well thought out pedal that will do everything you wanted a= nd more, great for two part song forms, synced or un-synced,has an undo func= tion , and also has features that ambient loopers could love such as loop ag= ing (feedback) reverse and half speed.  The manual is very easy to read= , They spent a long time developing this pedal and it shows. Switches are sm= ooth  Also has the capacity for firmware upgrades as they add more feat= ures, which they already have done. You would need an extra 2 button momenta= ry switch to do everything its capable, but its foot print would be not much= bigger than two  JammanExpress XT's side by side with cables connectin= g them, you would also need two power supplies instead of one (most tiny foo= tprint digital pedals can't run on a 9 volt battery), yes it would be more m= oney, but you are worth it :)
> Bill
>


= --Apple-Mail-405A475A-B94E-43CD-BFD0-4D6104117121-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 2 19:53:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5328518354B; Fri, 2 May 2014 19:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5363F782.2010608@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 15:52:34 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #891 for May 1, 2014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 19:53:04 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/140501.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #891 May 1, 2014. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Adventures in Sound Episode 191" on electro-music media. I also played music by AirSculpture, appearing at the Asheville electro-music festival (Asheville, NC) on May 16 and at The Gatherings Concert Series (Philadelphia, PA) on May 17. I played music by PYXL8R who will be at Event Horizon (Philadelphia, PA) on May 9. Modulator ESP: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may Events: http://soundscapes.us/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) AirSculpture Traditional Folk Fjord Transit (Neu Harmony) Music VA [Dreanphonic] Equinox Asheville electro-music 2014 (electro-music media) Pyxl8r Life Unsettling Life Unsettling (none) Andrew J. Douglas Space Traveler Blossom River (Jennica) Craig Padilla and Blue Distance When the Earth is Far Away Zero Ohms (Lotuspike) Byron Metclf and Vision * Intention (Projekt) Mark Seelig 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Modulator ESP Ancient Sequential Adventures in Sound 191 Excursions (electro-music media) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Adventures in Sound Episode 192" on electro-music media. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2014-05-08 Bill ========================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com ======================================================================== Timezone information - [ Winter: EST/GMT-5 / Summer: EDT/GMT-4 ] Daylight Saving Time in the US (2014) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 9 and ends at 2:00 AM on Sunday, November 2. ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 3 03:05:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3D13183548; Sat, 3 May 2014 03:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 321890.62952.bm@omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1399086113; bh=hKLR0EUq11t9rhv1Ae0yUAv9XMz8vNWx/p/wSlUW4iQ=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ojw3hZp4LENeCvEcY+qBPy2kwo7pO52SFh8AJcc5LwJzsX2mEUIiNZJ7wdjg2XEbuqXrzZmXhVxcXLgzPp1YGB4/Nsn8E6LgvKGHXV5LI49/yg6rqFQLv7PU7JA9wjl4G0b+keBxoTQjIQT1uMyCGS7zb5s7ZZ9lK4tU+gIcS04= X-YMail-OSG: dna8C2wVM1nA4mEQW2U2a.Fgbrt.1f_UH_QsIpPpTLhD4nG AVvnBRJMvEhRnD3BgFkNnGCnU.19tHAPOxm6dm4P9xh2DrnpVLHE5kDTmyOy z1cNzLjwfo_AZ_Ntx6EzV_0sgJpZrmtLh7svX3HV67hDCw75re_8PUJOeO5h N2wYyk8NsxN4OhGZnArji.eQ46LASDbi.YVov7WsxTbENdDyioGfyQePCnT4 Ln2P7nH1XKHjjrM9XDLGQ0NN5_IYpqpT9k0amNDhTZUT9xFtCVzPsWPf1GON Cli9.pJ1CiOdGmVT6ADr3je55murYz.kCC3kbdzp72zKvpHgBWW7NaemTeTf nrpORqEjdE23NEW9Jc_OKWeCTojLshWIcFxw8SY_F_c3Rf2ZNwl8ABGB8pyi AfMlSGvBjFFEAR12OOhaM0T8vyIwlhW8Rsnv_w.UsxWe5i86vzNuPKcoKjSS CMCaxZsHVM0km2WM06PPpEQusbVwPiwqJfHn3QVKXSimyfqrmy8mXFS6r1ss PX4do6OHRhSXJDaYaVqEN5glaogBiZiNcr0hwmRoz9yj3XmFSlwuUJJvXrhI GWyOtX321G6fU7QynscmvZCA2joOl4tv_M9cWeBc4hEe.PxNXlnO6xeh8b1W PLn5oS0BZ.uxOr1udl8iCPX_OG21qwmbQQUC.rk05DBnpA3PHPBo9mNUvPq6 EYnjmEHkf.wa7mUC3PildgyGwAGRUE25fD97dwiznTDo.Srxfy2OcKzPYTOA YFCWfo1L5F8EBs4iaxZgD_uDXKZSfSfNTZ_xmR2BHyUh3wLyXQiWdbqyL7v_ EO..inIHi3LDigsD1dO6tiflkRm3AWWBgCao3Zkew80GSDbHksYiqLIUlSCN unBWwQuEMWX32L.OyXZyhtlmPUInTPOOIjV0y7DZb7638.ku0m52Z4ubEc5O nORlDzyhL5mncpVznkDiglfgK3OAbFLmxr4ezSJ0- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,ClRIQU5LUywgVCEKCgrCoApUaW0gTXVuZ2VuYXN0CkVkaXRvci9Xcml0ZXIvUHJvb2ZyZWFkZXI6d3d3LmxpbmtlZGluLmNvbS9pbi90aW1tdW5nZW5hc3QKR3VpdGFyaXN0L0NvbXBvc2VyL1ZvY2FsaXN0Ond3dy5yZXZlcmJuYXRpb24uY29tL3RpbW11bmdlbmFzdAoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBFbWlsZSBUb2JlbmZlbGQgPGVtaWxlQGZvcnlvdXJoZWFkLmNvbT4KVG86IERyVFZpZGVvQGVncm91cHMuY29tIApDYzogRW1pbGUgVG9iZW5mZWxkIDxlbWlsZUBmb3IBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.188.663 References: <2A0DC5E3-A805-49E0-945A-1566CB8C1D89@foryourhead.com> Message-ID: <1399086113.44428.YahooMailNeo@web122403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 20:01:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Reply-To: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Videos posted to You Tube To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <2A0DC5E3-A805-49E0-945A-1566CB8C1D89@foryourhead.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="942553102-406033429-1399086113=:44428" Resent-Message-ID: <-wHpcB.A.b7E.lzFZTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 03:05:09 +0000 (UTC) --942553102-406033429-1399086113=:44428 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0ATHANKS, T!=0A=0A=0A=A0=0ATim Mungenast=0AEditor/Writer/Proofreader:www.l= inkedin.com/in/timmungenast=0AGuitarist/Composer/Vocalist:www.reverbnation.= com/timmungenast=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Emile To= benfeld =0ATo: DrTVideo@egroups.com =0ACc: Emile Tob= enfeld ; eyecandy@egroups.com; boss-improv@topica.co= m; iotacenter@egroups.com; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com; atari-midi@= yahoogroups.com; Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com =0ASent: Friday, April 25, = 2014 12:55 PM=0ASubject: Videos posted to You Tube=0A =0A=0A=0ADoctor T and= The OUTPOST Band - June=0A8=0AI posted two new videos to You Tube -- they = can be se=A0=A0at=A0http://youtu.be/XRmLLMt_Icc=A0and=0Ahttp://youtu.be/5EF= iCbmlO9Q=0A=0A"A Bird in the Hand" and "Dancing Across TIme" are excerpts f= rom the fourth of my "Light into Motion" events, which are held at Outpost = 186, near=A0Inman Square in Cambridge Mass.These events combine improvised = video, music, movement, and sometimes=A0=A0spoken word. The collective pers= onnel=A0for this performance=A0=A0were:=0A=0ADoctor T - Video and Movement= =0ATim Mungenast -- guitar=0AMichael Knoblach -- percussion=0ATracy Simonel= li -- movement=0ANicole BIndler --=A0=A0prerecorded movement=0A=0ACombining= this many creative elements in the intimate space of Outpost 186 has been = really exciting and fine for all of the artists. The next event in the=A0se= ries is on May 10=A0and we need more dancers.=0A=0A=0AThe format is part pe= rformance and part workshop, and dancers with any amount of improvisation e= xperience are welcome to join us. Email me at=A0emile@foryourhead.com if yo= u would like to dance at this event.=0A=0A-- Emile=0A=0AWhen the going gets= tough, the tough go dancing.=0A=0AMy photography can be viewed at http://w= ww.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/=0A=0AMy vi= deos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld --942553102-406033429-1399086113=:44428 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Tim Mungenast
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Subject: Videos posted to You Tube

Doctor T and The OUTPOST Band - June=0A8</t= itle><div><span style=3D"display:block;">=0A<div><font face=3D"Geneva">I po= sted two new videos to You Tube -- they can be se  at <a rel= =3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://youtu.be/XRmLLMt_Icc">http:/= /youtu.be/XRmLLMt_Icc</a> and<br>http://youtu.be/5EFiCbmlO9Q<br><br>"A= Bird in the Hand" and "Dancing Across TIme" are excerpts from the fourth o= f my "Light into Motion" events, which are held at Outpost 186, near I= nman Square in Cambridge Mass.These events combine improvised video, music,= movement, and sometimes  spoken word. The collective personnel&n= bsp;for this performance  were:<br><br>Doctor T - Video and Movem= ent<br>Tim Mungenast -- guitar<br>Michael Knoblach -- percussion<br>Tracy S= imonelli -- movement<br>Nicole BIndler --  prerecorded movement<b= r><br>Combining this many creative elements in the intimate space of Outpos= t 186 has been really exciting and fine for all of the artists. The next ev= ent in the series is on May 10<span class=3D"yiv2318526915Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre;">=09</span= > and we need more dancers.<br><br></font><div style=3D"margin:0px;"><= font face=3D"Geneva">The format is part performance and part workshop, and = dancers with any amount of improvisation experience are welcome to join us.= Email me at <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:emile@foryourhead.c= om" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:emile@foryourhead.com">emile@foryourhe= ad.com</a> if you would like to dance at this event.</font></div><div style= =3D"margin:0px;"><font face=3D"Geneva"><br></font></div><div style=3D"margi= n:0px;"><font face=3D"Geneva">-- Emile</font></div><div style=3D"margin:0px= ;font-family:Geneva;min-height:16px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;fo= nt-family:Geneva;">When the going gets tough, the tough go dancing.</div><d= iv style=3D"margin:0px;font-family:Geneva;min-height:16px;"><br></div><div = style=3D"margin:0px;font-family:Geneva;">My photography can be viewed at <a= rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collec= tions/72157603627170351/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collect= ions/72157603627170351/</a></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-family:Genev= a;min-height:16px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-family:Geneva;"= >My videos can be viewed at <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"h= ttp://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld">http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld</a></div>= <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-family:Geneva;min-height:16px;"><br></div><di= v style=3D"margin:0px;font-family:Geneva;min-height:16px;"><br></div></div>= <br class=3D"yiv2318526915Apple-interchange-newline">=0A</span></div></div>= <br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html> --942553102-406033429-1399086113=:44428-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 3 08:44:03 2014 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A460B18354A; Sat, 3 May 2014 08:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <billyfox@soundscapes.us> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5364AC38.4000602@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 04:43:36 -0400 From: Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List <ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com>, beyond_em Yahoogroups List <beyond_em@yahoogroups.com>, spacemusic Yahoogroups List <spacemusic@yahoogroups.com>, Ambient Way Yahoogroups List <the_ambient_way@yahoogroups.com>, Loopers Delight Mailing List <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <hkUPjB.A.xPH.TxKZTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/123037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 08:44:03 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Please SHARE so that more people can listen to and support the artists. Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, is on at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs and will play music from artists playing at Event Horizon (Philadelphia, PA) on May 9, the Asheville electro-music festival (Asheville, NC) on May 16 and 17, and The Gatherings Concert Series (Philadelphia, PA) on May 17. In Phase 3, I'll play music by bands that will appear at the next NJ Proghouse concert on May 5 and Rosfest this weekend. The show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 3 15:54:22 2014 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A389D183548; Sat, 3 May 2014 15:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <billyfox@soundscapes.us> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <53651112.5090308@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 11:53:54 -0400 From: Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List <ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com>, beyond_em Yahoogroups List <beyond_em@yahoogroups.com>, spacemusic Yahoogroups List <spacemusic@yahoogroups.com>, Ambient Way Yahoogroups List <the_ambient_way@yahoogroups.com>, Loopers Delight Mailing List <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Thought Radio Radio Playlist for May 3, 2014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <Ijx4xB.A.bXC.uERZTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/123038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 15:54:22 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2014/140503.html Thought Radio is the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show hosted by Bill Fox. You can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and streaming on the internet. Bill also hosts Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #276 May 3, 2014. Recap: In Phase 1, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. I played music from bands that will be playing at Event Horizon (Philadelphia, PA) on May 9, the Asheville electro-music festival (Asheville, NC) on March 16 and 17, and at the Gatherings Concert Series (Philadelphia) on May 17. In Phase 3, I featured music by bands that will play at the Rites of Spring Festival (Gettysburg, PA) this weekend and at the NJ Proghouse (Dunellen, NJ) on May 5. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Gert Emmens and From Beyond Signs (EH) Ruud Heij AirSculpture Fjord Transit * Fjord Transit (Neu Harmony) Woz Angels of Tibet Angels of Tibet (Melting Planet Publishing) Rudy Adrian Beyond the Silver Atmospheres (Spotted Peccary) River VA [Keller and Virtual World Sequences No. 27 Schonwalder] Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Cornell Kinderknecht Big Sky Dreamtime (Little Greyhound) and Martin McCall Jim Gabriel Dayspring Sojourn (none) Crystalline Dream Journeyman Journeyman (Solovey Music) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Caravan Nine Feet In the Land of Grey and Pink Underground (Deram) Beardfish Do You Remember Fun The Sane Day (none) Mom Beardfish Return To Mudhill The Sane Day (none) Elephants of Starboard Home Away from Home (none) Scotland Sound of Contact Not Coming Down Dimensionaut (InsideOut) Sound of Contact Remote View Dimensionaut (InsideOut) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that came with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Timezone information - [ Winter: EST/GMT-5 / Summer: EDT/GMT-4 ] Daylight Saving Time in the US (2014) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 9 and ends at 2:00 AM on Sunday, November 2. ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 4 01:00:18 2014 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44A2018354A; Sun, 4 May 2014 01:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AEbnK3Z/fFk7Shcn6vXIUZmFdRRlYIcUGuybjac0g/8=; b=To9aeCVXgh5P7QMi4tgdVh8AmJ+Wmkd9j/OT/ZBAowBAvWRRfUiB4Z8OzNl7Sxg2fo 1VF45BMVwmlJvzy6A1GfwPWoRGcxynAzvL5aNN7ful3v4ej0ByBUBIf0tgwlOLlHB3zv t7ia8KUXW5erUSYGr5bbWEkX+CZZLswk1DyVn1aLUTeuHRdohsmOJURi9HtVdM+2fFHN p1E1VD5qZM4V7I3SKbnb84dBPxoBdZoyyYLQ8clWM4mCsvLhMSC75nq7VYID4wLDrXaU Y2R8/uDMf0SW8Zopnh2rkApL6LgiFQea6h4XyPfepHcKr6sckTitQ0QHU9qDporq+JBw 0U3g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.5.5 with SMTP id o5mr20601885wjo.16.1399165193091; Sat, 03 May 2014 17:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 20:59:53 -0400 Message-ID: <CAKXq8YCwL1S2sJBs3S4WNdSsRZP823G2bx-7JGXcDgW26bkm4A@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: NYC/NJ Loopers - Show @ShapeShifter in Brooklyn - May 13th (7pm/$5) From: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d43fe51013f04f88888b9 Resent-Message-ID: <ppZdlB.A.UeG.iEZZTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/123039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 01:00:18 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b5d43fe51013f04f88888b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have an up-and-coming show with Jay Dickson<http://twitter.com/jaydicksondrums>(UK) at ShapeShifter Lab <https://www.facebook.com/pages/ShapeShifter-Lab/209460929085823> in Brooklyn, NYC on May 13th) - $5 in. I hope you locals can make it down! Starts at 7pm. Details are here<http://www.shapeshifterlab.com/portfolio/may-13-ricky-graham/>and below: *Act 1: Jeff Thompson =E2=80=93 set length =E2=80=93 approx. 40 minutes.* Instrumentation: Single-string guitar / Amplifier/ Max/MSP Jeff Thompson is an artist, musician, programmer, maker, and teacher based in New Jersey, USA. https://soundcloud.com/jeffthompson *Act 2: Ricky Graham & Jay Dickson (N.Ireland) =E2=80=93 set length =E2=80= =93 approx. 40 minutes.* Instrumentation: Guitar / Amplifier / Live Drum Kit Jay Dickson is a drummer/percussionist from Derry, Northern Ireland. Ricky Graham (signalsundertests) is a guitarist and producer based in Hoboken, NJ, originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland. The Northern Irish duo have been writing post-rock, metal, and experimental music together since 2006. https://soundcloud.com/jaydickson http://soundcloud.com/rickygraham *Act 3: Maria Chavez (Headliner) =E2=80=93 set length =E2=80=93 approx. 40 = minutes.* Instrumentation: Turntables (DJ) Born in Lima, Peru, Maria Chavez is mainly recognized in the art community as an improviser, sound artist and curator. Her sound installations, visual objects and live turntable performances focus on the values of accidents and it=E2=80=99s unique, complicated possi= bilities with sound emitting machinery like the turntable. Influenced by improvisation in contemporary art, her work expands outside of the sound world straddling different disciplines of interest. This year, Chavez wrote and illustrated her first book object entitled, Of Technique: Chance Procedures on Turntable. The book serves as a how-to manual for those interested in learning the abstract turntablism techniques that she developed with the turntable. =E2=80=9CWhile the contents of the book serve= a practical means, the book as a whole is intended to be an interactive art piece.=E2=80=9D http://www.mariachavez.org/ More info: http://rickygraham.com/2014/04/19/live-show-forthcoming-shapeshifter-lab-ma= y-13th-brooklyn-nyc/ --047d7b5d43fe51013f04f88888b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<br><br><p><span class=3D"">I have an up-and-coming= show with <a href=3D"http://twitter.com/jaydicksondrums" target=3D"_blank"= >Jay Dickson</a> (UK) at <a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/pages/ShapeShi= fter-Lab/209460929085823">ShapeShifter Lab</a> in Brooklyn, NYC on May 13th= ) -=C2=A0 $5 in. I hope you locals can make it down!<br> </span></p> <p>Starts at 7pm. Details are <a href=3D"http://www.shapeshifterlab.com/por= tfolio/may-13-ricky-graham/" target=3D"_blank">here</a> and below:</p><p><b= r> <strong>Act 1: Jeff Thompson =E2=80=93 set length =E2=80=93 approx. 40 minu= tes.</strong></p>Instrumentation: Single-string guitar / Amplifier/ Max/MSP= <div><p>Jeff Thompson is an artist, musician, programmer, maker, and teache= r based in New Jersey, USA.</p> <p><a href=3D"https://soundcloud.com/jeffthompson" target=3D"_blank">https:= //soundcloud.com/jeffthompson</a></p><br><strong>Act 2: Ricky Graham & = Jay Dickson (N.Ireland) =E2=80=93 set length =E2=80=93 approx. 40 minutes.<= /strong><br><p> Instrumentation: Guitar / Amplifier / Live Drum Kit</p> <p>Jay Dickson=C2=A0 is a drummer/percussionist from Derry, Northern Irelan= d.<br> Ricky Graham (signalsundertests) is a guitarist and producer based in Hobok= en, NJ, originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland.</p> <p>The Northern Irish duo have been writing post-rock, metal, and experimen= tal music together since 2006.</p> <p><a href=3D"https://soundcloud.com/jaydickson" target=3D"_blank">https://= soundcloud.com/jaydickson</a><br> <a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/rickygraham" target=3D"_blank">http://soun= dcloud.com/rickygraham</a></p><br><br><strong>Act 3: Maria Chavez (Headline= r) =E2=80=93 set length =E2=80=93 approx. 40 minutes.<br></strong><br>Instr= umentation: Turntables (DJ)<br> Born in Lima, Peru, Maria Chavez is mainly recognized in the art community = as an improviser, sound artist and curator.<strong> </strong><p>Her sound installations, visual objects and live turntable=20 performances focus on the values of accidents and it=E2=80=99s unique,=20 complicated possibilities with sound emitting machinery like the=20 turntable.</p> <p>Influenced by improvisation in contemporary art, her work expands=20 outside of the sound world straddling different disciplines of interest. This year, Chavez wrote and illustrated her first book object entitled, Of Technique: Chance Procedures on Turntable. The book serves as a=20 how-to manual for those interested in learning the abstract turntablism=20 techniques that she developed with the turntable. =E2=80=9CWhile the conten= ts of the book serve a practical means, the book as a whole is intended to be an interactive art piece.=E2=80=9D</p> <p><a href=3D"http://www.mariachavez.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mar= iachavez.org/</a></p><strong><br></strong>More info:<br><br><a href=3D"http= ://rickygraham.com/2014/04/19/live-show-forthcoming-shapeshifter-lab-may-13= th-brooklyn-nyc/">http://rickygraham.com/2014/04/19/live-show-forthcoming-s= hapeshifter-lab-may-13th-brooklyn-nyc/</a><br> </div></div> --047d7b5d43fe51013f04f88888b9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 4 23:40:05 2014 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1B93183584; Sun, 4 May 2014 23:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <billowhead@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kbHM6zKWRN6UYtxEddyhSuEyHO64+BE8ZrW1yyTNzcM=; b=NQMquVQlImZP4WrkAYccga7F/sqtelgXUD+LSuLqXcwgNEV5/B2NjhtKkr207LreUl 7r9HZqnKHfymSXWaDS8eiMR66YL+vRllMqkZuSv1xXQta9ubfqwnzX5xX2vZIRj++WJK dgAiE3obczXWxrn/56ft3HmnHHGZzWyXJ3fihqxDcv7QGWfWPTiQqlnWqy6le9uZmNzV PfDHsg4eKbIfBlM71vJxk2Ml8BewWc/3HgtRr/qDHUzBtFVUOQyj81TCI0WaN6Nv6bX7 CpmHT1yTvA2Pkqa1fQjFWzqNgQoKWzdCEZfFwKechVlV2PKZMAlKNShaH0FLAkMvSCJ/ jKpg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.62.34 with SMTP id v2mr29569847oer.37.1399246780633; Sun, 04 May 2014 16:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 16:39:40 -0700 Message-ID: <CAATUM6d-2-OF3nb_MwH5X5oHi_K1oVuYxJ3N5vGBdeyCZsVTOw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6bius_midi_and_general_software_question?= From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0141a7ca50165704f89b87d4 Resent-Message-ID: <XBauPC.A.JIB.V_sZTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/123040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 23:40:05 +0000 (UTC) --089e0141a7ca50165704f89b87d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I've got another question for you M=C3=B6bius/Live types. I'm running M= =C3=B6bius in Live and am coming in to the whole thing through a presonus fire studios mobile. I'm controlling midi with a FCB 1010 with the midi into the presonus. All of my commands from the FCB are midi notes. I'm laying that all out so maybe one of you can help with an oddity. My Live project has about ten tracks, three of which are separate tracks out of M=C3=B6bius. So my problem is that when I start playing and looping in m=C3=B6bius I get about two passes through the set up (track one, record loop, track two, record and so on to overdubs) but soon thereafter, everything gets confused and my track advance commands don't work and very other midi control is delayed and implemented sometimes and sometimes not. Anyone got any suggestions are what might be going on? Oh yeah, and a global reset clears the problems for a bit until it clogs up again. Thanks as always. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --089e0141a7ca50165704f89b87d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I've got another question for you M=C3=B6bius/Live types. =C2=A0I= 9;m running M=C3=B6bius in Live and am coming in to the whole thing through= a presonus fire studios mobile. =C2=A0I'm controlling midi with a FCB = 1010 with the midi into the presonus. =C2=A0All of my commands from the FCB= are midi notes.<div> <br></div><div>I'm laying that all out so maybe one of you can help wit= h an oddity. =C2=A0My Live project has about ten tracks, three of which are= separate tracks out of M=C3=B6bius.</div><div><br></div><div>So my problem= is that when I start playing and looping in m=C3=B6bius I get about two pa= sses through the set up (track one, record=C2=A0loop, track two, record and= so on to overdubs) but soon thereafter, everything gets confused and my tr= ack advance commands don't work and very other midi control is delayed = and implemented sometimes and sometimes not.</div> <div><br></div><div>Anyone got any suggestions are what might be going on?<= /div><div><br></div><div>Oh yeah, and a global reset clears the problems fo= r a bit until it clogs up again.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks as always.= </div> <div><br></div><div>Kevin</div><br><br>-- <br>Till now you seriously consid= ered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>form. That is the primal igno= rance which is the root cause of all trouble.<br><br>- Ramana Maharshi (187= 9-1950)<br> <br><br> --089e0141a7ca50165704f89b87d4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 5 00:09:26 2014 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDAE4183583; Mon, 5 May 2014 00:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <perboysen@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=08BBLKu6YK/bXIoLsIUPRcU9nu+h38/9Ff5cq5rdW4c=; b=nvR/raV/ZJNjWv+RO4WFkEt1r0mLQKDlSNYPIYARcuaklygiYKBih5fcgXWLmP4Z3/ pQsqO2k/r0UTId+Z+2o/OrX+xBXy8o1jMBMxEicszNL+FxFzzdZ8IKR1zszXvJeg+CtY fscAYwVf21lUjJA16gp4XFjGj4JnkAOE4rzhZYRTL/gTRzULevu/R2/DELfWKG4NY4ZA wcBcxOINZje4qgR+wIosstBq9x7JN1AV0VnnQC6saX/KyBa5kHz/UsaOw0CwPNF8bIww 6zkvH+v3WK2x3X+3B5/0qT/V7s0YZlSDVwYOdQRMTcx5G7yjPhMV4D+6jAVhSjdW3lbq RELw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.135.106 with SMTP id pr10mr29978312oeb.15.1399248541913; Sun, 04 May 2014 17:09:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAATUM6d-2-OF3nb_MwH5X5oHi_K1oVuYxJ3N5vGBdeyCZsVTOw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAATUM6d-2-OF3nb_MwH5X5oHi_K1oVuYxJ3N5vGBdeyCZsVTOw@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 02:09:01 +0200 Message-ID: <CAJC14WiaVJCMT2rOuRkn6a8PmHXnR07=_=dALbL2=Omdg-jHYQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_M=C3=B6bius_midi_and_general_software_question?= From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <PnyA2.A.pZB.2atZTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/123041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 00:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kevin, A wild guess would be that your Mobius plugin gets double MIDI commands? This can happen is Mobius is listening to the computer's MIDI In port and you also has set up a MIDI path in Live to pipe (the same) MIDI stream into the Mobius plugin. One need to make a decision to either use Live's system or Mobius system and then make sure the other is not letting through any of the incoming control MIDI events. My choice is to always use only Mobius system; so I'm setting up Mobius MIDI Device Selection like "Plugin Input Devices =3D My Mac's MIDI Interface's MIDI In port". And then I stay away from enabling a MIDI path through Live for that particular data. What I like with this method is that my MIDI gear is talking directly to my looper no matter which host application the looper happens to be opened in. I like it consistent, like a music instrument. One can also leave Mobius with no chosen Plugin Input Device and do the assigning of incoming MIDI to Mobius parameters and functions in Live's control assignment system. But in case you change anything inside Mobius MIDI Bindings window all those host based assignments will shift around so your switches and pedals will suddenly activate other functions than you programmed it for. Third method is to not use Live's MIDI assignment system but just set up a Live track to pipe incoming MIDI into the Mobius plugin. This is similar to my method, although my method has Mobius snatch the MIDI directly from the MIDI port rather then receiving it through a pipe on some Live track. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote: > So I've got another question for you M=C3=B6bius/Live types. I'm running= M=C3=B6bius > in Live and am coming in to the whole thing through a presonus fire studi= os > mobile. I'm controlling midi with a FCB 1010 with the midi into the > presonus. All of my commands from the FCB are midi notes. > > I'm laying that all out so maybe one of you can help with an oddity. My > Live project has about ten tracks, three of which are separate tracks out= of > M=C3=B6bius. > > So my problem is that when I start playing and looping in m=C3=B6bius I g= et about > two passes through the set up (track one, record loop, track two, record = and > so on to overdubs) but soon thereafter, everything gets confused and my > track advance commands don't work and very other midi control is delayed = and > implemented sometimes and sometimes not. > > Anyone got any suggestions are what might be going on? > > Oh yeah, and a global reset clears the problems for a bit until it clogs = up > again. > > Thanks as always. > > Kevin > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 5 15:10:12 2014 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3BE2183583; Mon, 5 May 2014 15:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <emile@foryourhead.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 50.201.159.194 X-Authenticated-UID: emile@foryourhead.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8AD0375A-D644-4EA4-82DC-7A8A1A9D341E" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Architectural Rhythms, Philly and DC photo essay on flickr From: Emile Tobenfeld <emile@foryourhead.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:09:36 -0400 Cc: Emile Tobenfeld <emile@foryourhead.com>, eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com X-Apple-Mail-Stationery: 84CFB22B-607A-426D-9F84-05F520B1515B Message-Id: <A6464CF3-152E-4830-8EB9-6DBE27A21167@foryourhead.com> To: DrTVideo@egroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Resent-Message-ID: <V7yv2D.A.nP.Tn6ZTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/123042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:10:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_8AD0375A-D644-4EA4-82DC-7A8A1A9D341E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi, I posted a new photo essay on flickr at = https://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157644508896352 Architectural Rhythms, Philly and DC = https://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157644508896352 is an = extension of my Architectural Rhythms photo essay from last year = https://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157633360951357/ Notes from that photo essay are repeated below. These photos were all taken during a trip to Philly and the DC area in = May 2013 and are ordered chronologically. The 16:9 pictures were taken = with my Panasonic Lumix LX7 - an amazing pocket sized camera. The 4:3 = pictures were taken with my Nikon D-90 SLR with an 18-200 zoom. Special thanks to Sean Isabelle, Lois and Arthur for putting me up and = showing me around. Repetition has been a part of architecture throughout the ages. The = advent of skyscrapers increased the possibilities for repetition, = because of the larger scale of the buildings. The modern style, for = better or worse (I would say some of each), accentuates the repetition = because of its use of simple forms and symmetry.=20 The use of reflective material such as glass and stainless steel further = accentuates the sense of repetition. I find this fascinating=96the way = behemoth buildings seem to interact with each other through reflection = presents me with some of my favorite photo subjects. Almost all the images in this photo essay are of architecture that uses = repetition, and all have some kind of rhythmic element to them. I love natural forms.but I also love man-made forms. I do not consider = one to be essentially more beautiful than the other, for at the bottom = of things man is a part of nature, and so everything man-made can be = thought of as being natural! I hope this photo essay makes you more sensitive to the beauty to be = found in the urban environment. -- Emile When the going gets tough, the tough go dancing. My photography can be viewed at = http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld --Apple-Mail=_8AD0375A-D644-4EA4-82DC-7A8A1A9D341E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dwindows-1252"><style type=3D"text/css"><!-- blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { padding-top: 0 ; padding-bottom: 0 } --></style><title>Doctor T and The OUTPOST Band - June 8
Hi,


Architectural Rhythms, Philly and DC https://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157644508896352 = is an extension of my Architectural Rhythms photo essay from last = year  https://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157633360951357/

These photos were all taken during a = trip to Philly and the DC area in May 2013 and are ordered = chronologically. The 16:9 pictures were taken with my Panasonic Lumix = LX7 - an amazing pocket sized camera. The 4:3 pictures were taken with = my Nikon D-90 SLR with an 18-200 zoom.
Special thanks to Sean Isabelle, Lois and Arthur for = putting me up and showing me around.

Repetition has been a part of = architecture throughout the ages. The advent of skyscrapers increased = the possibilities for repetition, because of the larger scale of the = buildings. The modern style, for better or worse (I would say some of = each), accentuates the repetition because of its use of simple forms and = symmetry. 

The use = of reflective material such as glass and stainless steel further = accentuates the sense of repetition. I find this fascinating=96the way = behemoth buildings seem to interact with each other through reflection = presents me with some of my favorite photo subjects.

Almost all the images in this photo = essay are of architecture that uses repetition, and all have some kind = of rhythmic element to them.

I love = natural forms.but I also love man-made forms. I do not consider one to = be essentially more beautiful than the other, for at the bottom of = things man is a part of nature, and so everything man-made can be = thought of as being natural!

I hope = this photo essay makes you more sensitive to the beauty to be found in = the urban environment.


-- Emile

When the going gets tough, the tough go = dancing.


My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld=



= --Apple-Mail=_8AD0375A-D644-4EA4-82DC-7A8A1A9D341E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 5 16:29:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47189183582; Mon, 5 May 2014 16:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII From: bill walker Subject: Re:Architectural Rhythms, Philly and DC photo essay on flickr Message-id: <1A0B2D46-B8B7-49B3-9C2A-2F6F3825B722@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 09:28:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHREKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdGRAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbGRpiTk0dWh1NeBl4c wceHxscGBJdHBEKWFwXGQQaBBsbB01OHxgYGBlLBRsdBBsfEgQbHB8EHRkQGx4aHxsRCl5ZF2F EfW5GEQpDWhcbHhgEGB8eBBsdBBgYGBEKQkUXekAbXX5jHEIdTBMRCkJOF2tFGlJQHkNcWVxoE QpCTBdpEl5SWUhkeBJuQxEKQmwXY0xJHVhjRnhrWloRCkJAF2RAGEZvY21sY09yEQpCWBdtUGd /TGtpaUIaBREKcGgXbEBjbx0SS0hGHkMRCnBsF25OfUFkQ15bZ0tfEQ== X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-05_02:2014-05-05,2014-05-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405050261 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Lovely photos Dr T!! Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 5 16:30:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5438183587; Mon, 5 May 2014 16:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII From: bill walker Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_M=F6bius_midi_and_general_software_question?= Message-id: <2483C69E-17B8-4598-8B0B-A3DF00DCA7EF@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 09:29:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHxEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk0caB14Wxl4c wceHxscGBNaExEKWFwXGQQaBB0HTUsdEkhJHEwFGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHhofGxEKXlkXYUR 9b0sRCkNaFxseGAQYHx4EGx0EGBgYEQpCRRd6QBtdfmMcQh1MExEKQk4Xa0UaUlAeQ1xZXGgRC kJMF2kSXlJZSGR4Em5DEQpCbBdjTEkdWGNGeGtaWhEKQkAXZ01mZk9rX0d8U1ARCkJYF21QZ39 Ma2lpQhoFEQpwaBdub3xCU0J/SFleQREKcGwXbk59QWRDXltnS18R X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-05_02:2014-05-05,2014-05-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405050261 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Excellent advice Per! Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 5 16:30:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A080E183587; Mon, 5 May 2014 16:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII From: bill walker Subject: OT: NYC/NJ Loopers - Show @ShapeShifter in Brooklyn - May 13th (7pm/$5) Message-id: Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 09:30:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHhEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk1mHB9/XRl4c wceHxscGRpjGxEKWFwXGQQaBB0HTUsdEkhJHEwFGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHhofGxEKXlkXYUR 9bxsRCkNaFxseGAQYHx4EGx0EGBgYEQpCRRd6QBtdfmMcQh1MExEKQk4Xa0UaUlAeQ1xZXGgRC kJMF2kSXlJZSGR4Em5DEQpCbBdjTEkdWGNGeGtaWhEKQkAXYW1Bcn9kHG9hS3wRCkJYF21QZ39 Ma2lpQhoFEQpwaBdvH1tJTmkcZXpmQxEKcGwXbk59QWRDXltnS18R X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-05_02:2014-05-05,2014-05-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405050261 Resent-Message-ID: <6v-OoD.A.4WB.5y7ZTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Good Luck on the gig Ricky! Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 5 16:52:07 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3D69183585; Mon, 5 May 2014 16:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rr69TqDGumRUxwULqxvja/kuDVh6XIcsoHvw6oAN5jk=; b=sUe+5gKbI3dJMnEIqV+Byh5y6QsI9K22fcqvJBVbsq43jiA/lPAToGEv7K1wUKyKmb b9Hf+ZjQBu1W06P/DLkU4Frp+2GVT0GZJfMAOPE7GkLYsqMf3Na/X38qnzNjeT4B02C0 hvMjVQrheDJEDnwCJQc/U+NWjaau/Nj7E9TXdRAdpkzZRkUt/sslPDShONBVzeSkQRVQ 7+XzDo0Q6sVsX9aUx8/oz4h8LXaeQG4FSpr6XbcYERz+VM+NhRJsYT54kVJFrryPuk4Q OmjmSCOyVusui/p7WEbccHUoKLQWFiFqSVTjcaS9ujqaHIB5eJFFy5fOjZL8jQ4juvQu uUSg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.49.207 with SMTP id q73mr43666634qga.103.1399308702034; Mon, 05 May 2014 09:51:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 09:51:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_M=C3=B6bius_midi_and_general_software_question?= From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11351cd61db06604f8a9f235 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:52:07 +0000 (UTC) --001a11351cd61db06604f8a9f235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Per, I thought I had my Midi going straight to Mobius but I'll check to see if I've got Live involved as well. Kevin On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > A wild guess would be that your Mobius plugin gets double MIDI > commands? This can happen is Mobius is listening to the computer's > MIDI In port and you also has set up a MIDI path in Live to pipe (the > same) MIDI stream into the Mobius plugin. One need to make a decision > to either use Live's system or Mobius system and then make sure the > other is not letting through any of the incoming control MIDI events. > My choice is to always use only Mobius system; so I'm setting up > Mobius MIDI Device Selection like "Plugin Input Devices =3D My Mac's > MIDI Interface's MIDI In port". And then I stay away from enabling a > MIDI path through Live for that particular data. What I like with this > method is that my MIDI gear is talking directly to my looper no matter > which host application the looper happens to be opened in. I like it > consistent, like a music instrument. > > One can also leave Mobius with no chosen Plugin Input Device and do > the assigning of incoming MIDI to Mobius parameters and functions in > Live's control assignment system. But in case you change anything > inside Mobius MIDI Bindings window all those host based assignments > will shift around so your switches and pedals will suddenly activate > other functions than you programmed it for. > > Third method is to not use Live's MIDI assignment system but just set > up a Live track to pipe incoming MIDI into the Mobius plugin. This is > similar to my method, although my method has Mobius snatch the MIDI > directly from the MIDI port rather then receiving it through a pipe on > some Live track. > > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > > So I've got another question for you M=C3=B6bius/Live types. I'm runni= ng > M=C3=B6bius > > in Live and am coming in to the whole thing through a presonus fire > studios > > mobile. I'm controlling midi with a FCB 1010 with the midi into the > > presonus. All of my commands from the FCB are midi notes. > > > > I'm laying that all out so maybe one of you can help with an oddity. M= y > > Live project has about ten tracks, three of which are separate tracks > out of > > M=C3=B6bius. > > > > So my problem is that when I start playing and looping in m=C3=B6bius I= get > about > > two passes through the set up (track one, record loop, track two, recor= d > and > > so on to overdubs) but soon thereafter, everything gets confused and my > > track advance commands don't work and very other midi control is delaye= d > and > > implemented sometimes and sometimes not. > > > > Anyone got any suggestions are what might be going on? > > > > Oh yeah, and a global reset clears the problems for a bit until it clog= s > up > > again. > > > > Thanks as always. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a11351cd61db06604f8a9f235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Per,

I thought I had my Midi= going straight to Mobius but I'll check to see if I've got Live in= volved as well.

Kevin

On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Per Boysen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kevin,

A wild guess would be that your Mobius plugin gets double MIDI
commands? This can happen is Mobius is listening to the computer's
MIDI In port and you also has set up a MIDI path in Live to pipe (the
same) MIDI stream into the Mobius plugin. One need to make a decision
to either use Live's system or Mobius system and then make sure the
other is not letting through any of the incoming control MIDI events.
My choice is to always use only Mobius system; so I'm setting up
Mobius MIDI Device Selection like "Plugin Input Devices =3D My Mac'= ;s
MIDI Interface's MIDI In port". And then I stay away from enabling= a
MIDI path through Live for that particular data. What I like with this
method is that my MIDI gear is talking directly to my looper no matter
which host application the looper happens to be opened in. I like it
consistent, like a music instrument.

One can also leave Mobius with no chosen Plugin Input Device and do
the assigning of incoming MIDI to Mobius parameters and functions in
Live's control assignment system. But in case you change anything
inside Mobius MIDI Bindings window all those host based assignments
will shift around so your switches and pedals will suddenly activate
other functions than you programmed it for.

Third method is to not use Live's MIDI assignment system but just set up a Live track to pipe incoming MIDI into the Mobius plugin. This is
similar to my method, although my method has Mobius snatch the MIDI
directly from the MIDI port rather then receiving it through a pipe on
some Live track.




Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com> wr= ote:
> So I've got another question for you M=C3=B6bius/Live types. =C2= =A0I'm running M=C3=B6bius
> in Live and am coming in to the whole thing through a presonus fire st= udios
> mobile. =C2=A0I'm controlling midi with a FCB 1010 with the midi i= nto the
> presonus. =C2=A0All of my commands from the FCB are midi notes.
>
> I'm laying that all out so maybe one of you can help with an oddit= y. =C2=A0My
> Live project has about ten tracks, three of which are separate tracks = out of
> M=C3=B6bius.
>
> So my problem is that when I start playing and looping in m=C3=B6bius = I get about
> two passes through the set up (track one, record loop, track two, reco= rd and
> so on to overdubs) but soon thereafter, everything gets confused and m= y
> track advance commands don't work and very other midi control is d= elayed and
> implemented sometimes and sometimes not.
>
> Anyone got any suggestions are what might be going on?
>
> Oh yeah, and a global reset clears the problems for a bit until it clo= gs up
> again.
>
> Thanks as always.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
>




--
Till now yo= u seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That = is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ra= mana Maharshi (1879-1950)

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Bill, thanks :o)

<= br>
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:30 PM, bill walker = <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
Good Luck on the gig Ricky!
=C2=A0Bill


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On May 6, 2014, at 1:28 AM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:

Lovely photos Dr T!!
Bill



--Apple-Mail=_BC0E65FA-3677-4FB8-BE7F-3AB61B9360D7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 6 04:56:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EDC1183583; Tue, 6 May 2014 04:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at d2.hostbaby.com From: john floridis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Gear, anyone? Message-Id: <71C0E05F-2060-4B85-803B-7C0725E9C74D@johnfloridis.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:55:49 -0600 To: Delight Loopers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: <8fcUg.A.ivD.ztGaTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 04:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Hello folks, A few looper related things I'm putting out there.....one actual looper = and some other stuff that I felt some one might be into on this list. Boss RC2 - $125 ADA MP1 preamp - $300 (I've got two different midi controller that I'd = throw in for a few bucks as well) DTAR Mama Bear - $300 LR Baggs M1 Passive Pickup - $125 Zoom Q3 - $150 Just sayin'..... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 7 04:25:21 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CD0A183583; Wed, 7 May 2014 04:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 50.201.159.194 X-Authenticated-UID: emile@foryourhead.com From: Emile Tobenfeld X-Apple-Mail-Stationery: 1166293F-338B-47E6-9F80-27AFC7381960 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BD406FEA-330F-4D81-B307-2EFEB63A7293" Subject: LIght into Motion 5 -- mixed media bash May 10 @Outpost 186 Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 00:24:50 -0400 Message-Id: Cc: Emile Tobenfeld To: DrTVideo@yahoogroups.com, "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , Dance Friday Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 04:25:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_BD406FEA-330F-4D81-B307-2EFEB63A7293 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Light into Motion is a series of performances that combine improvised = video, music, dance and sometimes poetry in an intimate space. The = first four events have been outstanding -- with multiple forms of improv = interacting in the intimate, funky space of Outpost 186. Light into Motion 5 will happen at Outpost 186 on May 10 at 8PM, and = will feature: Doctor T - Video and Movement Eric Crawley -- Harpejji and Electronics Cullan Powers -- Movement Other dancers tba I would like to get more dancers for these events. They are low-key = events -- something between a workshop and a performance. If you would = like to dance at this or a future event, please email me at = emile@foryourhead.com. If you have any experience with improvised dance = (Dance Friday, Dance Freedom, Contact Improv etc.), feel free to join = in, Videos from the last event can be seen at http://youtu.be/XRmLLMt_Icc = and http://youtu.be/5EFiCbmlO9Q -- Emile When the going gets tough, the tough go dancing. 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Light into Motion is = a series of performances that combine improvised video, music,  = dance and sometimes poetry in an intimate space. The first four events = have been outstanding -- with multiple forms of improv interacting in = the intimate, funky space of Outpost 186.
Light into Motion 5 will happen = at Outpost 186 on May 10 at 8PM, and will feature:

Doctor T - Video and Movement
Cullan Powers -- Movement
Other dancers tba

I would = like to get more dancers for these events. They  are low-key events = -- something between a workshop and a performance. If you would like to = dance at this or a future event, please email me at emile@foryourhead.com. If you = have any experience with improvised dance (Dance Friday, Dance Freedom, = Contact Improv etc.), feel free to join in,

Videos = from the last event can be seen at http://youtu.be/XRmLLMt_Icc = and
-- = Emile

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= --Apple-Mail=_BD406FEA-330F-4D81-B307-2EFEB63A7293-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 8 01:09:33 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D290F183582; Thu, 8 May 2014 01:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <536AD92B.7000100@theambientping.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 21:08:59 -0400 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Ambient Way , Loopers Delight , Drone Deep Chill , Dark Seeds , "Ambient@hyperreal" Subject: 05.10.14 > The PiNG presents a 2-Hour dreamSTATE Drone (This Saturday @ The Array Space) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.536AD92F.00F2,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: <1b-csC.A.F0B.NltaTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 01:09:33 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Saturday May 10th . PiNG.05.10.14 . THE AMBiENT PiNG and Arraymusic present a free 2-Hour dreamSTATE Drone Event to celebrate Weird Canada's "National Drone Day". @ The Array Space . 155 Walnut Ave . Toronto ON Canada . between Richmond & Adelaide, south-east of Trinity Bellwoods Park . Map, info & directions at: http://www.arraymusic.com/?page_id=652 Saturday May 10th . 2:30pm - 4:30pm . FREE . ALL-AGES Weird Canada has proclaimed May 10th as "National Drone Day" and the dronemeisters of dreamSTATE will rise to salute The Drone with a special 2-hour Saturday afternoon concert, astral travelling from coast to coast via the deepest of sound waves and textures. Celebrate The Drone with other righteous Canadians by listening to drone music all day and immersing yourself in dreamSTATE's rare live afternoon sound journey and later in Weird Canada's own drone concert at the Tranzac Club (Tiki Room) starting at 6pm with a variety of drone performers. This is the official PiNG event for May 2014. Eric Siegerman of General Chaos Visuals will paint a photonic-drone environment. Read more about National Drone Day in this special Blog TO piece: http://www.blogto.com/music/2014/05/drone_musicians_set_to_rumble_in_toronto_this_weekend/ The article is very enlightening and contains lots of informative links and mp3 streams including a beautiful Drone Day mix by Graham Latham of Montreal's Constellation Records. http://www.dreamSTATE.to http://droneday.org/about https://www.facebook.com/events/239472582921522/ . Jeff Howard will have the PiNG STREAM flowing for the concert starting at 2:30pm ET as a window into the event for those who can't be there in person but want to get their drone on! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrmj8Z1EdwE&feature=share . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON: . Tuesday June 10th . PiNG.06.10.14 . HEIKI + JAKOB THIESEN + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Toronto ON Canada . Kensington Market . just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 9:00 . $8-10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ambient and Drone CDs and DVDs are available online at: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG. http://www.facebook.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com Viners and Instagrammers - Scott has set up a Vine page for THE AMBiENT PiNG and a hashtag for #ambientping that can be used on Instagram and Vine to help document PiNG performances with your photos, videos and loops! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 8 21:18:24 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A341183583; Thu, 8 May 2014 21:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <536BF47B.9080409@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 17:17:47 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 21:18:24 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY http://galactictravels.info Please SHARE so that more people can listen to and support the artists. Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Adventures in Sound 192" on electro-music media. The Special Focus page is at http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may You will also hear music by AirSculpture (UK) who will play at the Asheville electro-music festival (Asheville, NC) on May 17 and at The Gatherings Concert Series (Philadelphia, PA) on May 18. Additionally, you'll hear music by a musician to be featured at the Event Horizon (Philadelphia, PA) on May 9. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. Become a WDIY member now! http://ow.ly/pJhCf From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 9 16:15:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DC65183581; Fri, 9 May 2014 16:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <536CFEDA.4000301@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 12:14:18 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #892 for May 8, 2014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 16:15:14 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/140508.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #892 May 8, 2014. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Adventures in Sound Episode 192" on electro- music media. I also played music byAirSculpture, appearing at the Asheville electro-music festival(Asheville, NC) on May 16 and at The Gatherings Concert Series(Philadelphia, PA) on May 17. I played music by Woz who will be at theEvent Horizon (Philadelphia, PA) on May 9. Modulator ESP: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may Events: http://soundscapes.us/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) AirSculpture Gegenshein Attrition System (Neu Harmony) Green Isac Particle Talk Passengers (Spotted Peccary) Chronotope Project Dancin Wu Li Masters Dharma Rain (Udana Music) VA [onewayness and Lovng Kindness Asheville electro-music 2014 dRachmUsiK] (edit) (electro-music media) Tom Shaw iResolve iAmbient (Blue Light) Woz Cosmic Thrill Ride Angels of Tibet (Melting Planet) Neuronium Ethereal Journey * Nocny Lot (Neuronium) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Modulator ESP Tangential Recursion Adventures in Sound 192 Entropy (electro-music media) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Adventures in Sound Episode 194" on electro-music media. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2014-05-15 Bill ========================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com ======================================================================== Timezone information - [ Winter: EST/GMT-5 / Summer: EDT/GMT-4 ] Daylight Saving Time in the US (2014) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 9 and ends at 2:00 AM on Sunday, November 2. ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 10 08:39:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6905418357F; Sat, 10 May 2014 08:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <536DE588.1030001@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 04:38:32 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 08:39:10 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Please SHARE so that more people can listen to and support the artists. Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, is on at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs and will play music from artists playing at the Asheville electro-music festival (Asheville, NC) on May 16 and 17, and The Gatherings Concert Series (Philadelphia, PA) on May 17, plus music from a new Analog Overdose from Fanger and Schonwalder. In Phase 3, I'll play music by Lana Lane. The show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 10 16:38:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBD82183583; Sat, 10 May 2014 16:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <536E55C5.3050502@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 12:37:25 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Radio Playlist for May 10, 2014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 16:38:01 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2014/140510.html Thought Radio is the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show hosted by Bill Fox. You can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and streaming on the internet. Bill also hosts Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #277 May 10, 2014. Recap: In Phase 1, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. I played music from bands that will be playing at the Asheville electro-music festival (Asheville, NC) on March 16 and 17, and at the Gatherings Concert Series (Philadelphia) on May 17. In Phase 3, I featured music by Lana Lane. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Fanger and Geisterbahnhof Analog Overdose 5 (Manikin) Schonwalder AirSculpture Dark Design Thunderhead (Neu Harmony) Twyndyllyngs Lament for Sandy Chez Mosc Archives Hook (Electro-music media) VA [vidnaObmana] Recoils Sequences No. 27 Neuronium Ethereal Journey * Nocny Lot (Neuronium) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Phil Coulter The Flower of Echoes of Home (Chanachie) Magherally Phil Coulter Theme from Echoes of Home (Chanachie) Braveheart Tom Griesgrabber A Letter Home Unnamed Lands (ThosSounds) and Bert Lams Jeff Stockton One Song Between Tow Lights (none) Richard Leo Johnson Red Dwarf Wiggle Celeste (Soft Science) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Erik Norlander The Dark Water The Galactic Collective (Think Tank) Lana Lane The Dream That Lady Macbeth (Think Tank) Never Ends Lana Lane Someone To Believe Lady Macbeth (Think Tank) Dewa Budjana Campuan Hill Surya Manaskar (Moonjune) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that came with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Timezone information - [ Winter: EST/GMT-5 / Summer: EDT/GMT-4 ] Daylight Saving Time in the US (2014) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 9 and ends at 2:00 AM on Sunday, November 2. ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 10 20:14:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5309B18357D; Sat, 10 May 2014 20:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <536E888C.30409@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 16:14:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: The ALIEN GUITAR Today on Chez Mosc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 20:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Today on Chez Mosc, on top of the usual insanity, I will play the ALIEN GUITAR. It's a one of a kind prototype on loan courtesy of the Martin Guitar company. Commissioned by Chris Martin III, the Alien was designed by Michael Brolly and includes a Moog Music theremin inside. http://soundscapes.us/twyndyllyngs/chezmosc.html http://radio.electro-music.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 11 20:43:50 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B623C18357F; Sun, 11 May 2014 20:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: reanimating my frippertronics setup Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 22:43:06 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CF6D6A.66615710" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac9tWZmUMrK6FAVXT6KrUE9bUfIWzA== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 20:43:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CF6D6A.66615710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z7b6zsO_2k -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CF6D6A.66615710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable reanimating my frippertronics setup

https://www.youtub= e.com/watch?v=3D9Z7b6zsO_2k

-Michael

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CF6D6A.66615710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 11 20:55:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 443BE183580; Sun, 11 May 2014 20:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rbOIuTQwvnakyNaMaBQVm15NrItMZatEnWDMmI+clfg=; b=fOIh7JvUubOQCP6vSjUJ6Zf5J5yR3E6GTfjA2Pytsfb9ECw82P6A3rZrC2cQDxVhYn zvzfS9eloo8AOU9VxS+6JiM5ocQ/ljLUqi2IExUDuw7DcbV5oQNuVw6YY3LQO1KjSJgC hRMNQv1OFh2tjv1uwOQFved0MSt1T48/64xT9araw1vOHeszSEtVT1cU+sHFuqSB2Lqy KRwa6MWCmn5E8vfEa2iaFOhM2wwHG5bJgFCxPjDEPufrxNLkcABcOSSKJQk6LzPop/6h w4mmAZphyoYkNb6pHa3E693hLBzmx0MfyTflaOtzTpK6i2L9RIsKR5FUtZVCFakiONc6 ev9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.128.180 with SMTP id f40mr35719342yhi.71.1399841720693; Sun, 11 May 2014 13:55:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 13:55:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: reanimating my frippertronics setup From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fb4c780fe3a04f9260ce8 Resent-Message-ID: <9SrOgC.A.m8B.ZP-bTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 20:55:53 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300fb4c780fe3a04f9260ce8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Nice! Great music and an impressive setup. While mechanical motors and stuff breaks down over 40 years, at least the standards stay somewhat the same. I have a terrible time getting things I've done on the computer just 10 years ago to work. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z7b6zsO_2k > > -Michael > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com --20cf300fb4c780fe3a04f9260ce8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice! Great music and an impressive setup.

<= div>While mechanical motors and stuff breaks down over 40 years, at least t= he standards stay somewhat the same. I have a terrible time getting things = I've done on the computer just 10 years ago to work. =C2=A0


On Sun,= May 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:<= br>



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--20cf300fb4c780fe3a04f9260ce8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 00:57:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 770DD183582; Mon, 12 May 2014 00:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yk/RpaM5GjOGScOGJ+61xshogFizeLHIbrmbZkq2bJE=; b=Usxm+rdzP7aZ8gv9KZQSC8+vDiSndYnZyE6yEJhimwPDklXlBNTSwvcVBPJ7uWqGEi OlVPtUGO8g2diW6+Vv1TuLnKlPh50A45o+mr/Hjs1VIA7ArDBJAtgxiIxpSPTqzhNtPH tMCtaamXTedWbjxvGADaLMiOinjFqmLrwIh1Bw5JcKhzFWzih0v8dXDIDB64Mj1waUAc ZZTOZ/amOqK6OQ0N2xmBS2zfqeTMUUuuZraHC0f2y3VwEvmdUYsSinTvxrEHuKfAvrdy 6sXgSodJXb4KrmFp1WMHYufDnZhv49BTs8+5CipSvUd2o0sFnW/fwqrTGlm35hOj+Mzc KcHg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.119.132 with SMTP id ku4mr36812374igb.35.1399856226610; Sun, 11 May 2014 17:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 17:57:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Some Looped Guitar From: Todd Elliott To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134428e1fb19704f9296d4a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 00:57:39 +0000 (UTC) --001a1134428e1fb19704f9296d4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've put this stuff on the FB group recently, but thought I'd post it here for all. It's a recent set of guitar improvs, with some enhancements with the Aleph, a sound computer from the people at monome: https://soundcloud.com/toaster-1/sets/guitar-improvistations T -- http://alisongmadrigal.bandcamp.com http://toaster.bandcamp.com --001a1134428e1fb19704f9296d4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
I've put this stuff on the FB group recently, but thought I'd post it here for all. It's a recent set of guitar improvs, with some enhancements with the Aleph, a sound computer from the people at monome:


--001a1134428e1fb19704f9296d4a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 04:52:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79BF9183580; Mon, 12 May 2014 04:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 329 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Mon, 12 May 2014 04:52:57 UTC X-Sender-Id: totalchoicehosting|x-authuser|mike%40michaelplishka.com X-Sender-Id: totalchoicehosting|x-authuser|mike%40michaelplishka.com X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: totalchoicehosting%7Cx-authuser%7Cmike%2540michaelplishka.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: totalchoicehosting From: To: Subject: Question about Loopers Delight Compilation Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 22:53:06 -0500 Message-ID: <069901cf6d95$aefffb40$0cfff1c0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_069A_01CF6D6B.C62B79E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac9tla0uEg2vVYgcQL+K1YHNCRzLoA== Content-Language: en-us X-AuthUser: mike@michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 04:52:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_069A_01CF6D6B.C62B79E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fellow Loopers, =20 I misplaced the terms from the Looper=E2=80=99s Delight CD. Are the = artists, moi, permitted to sell the tracks independent of the = compilation CD? =20 Thanks, =20 Mike =20 =20 =20 www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_069A_01CF6D6B.C62B79E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Fellow Loopers,

 

I misplaced the terms from the Looper=E2=80=99s Delight CD. Are the = artists, moi, permitted to sell the tracks independent of the = compilation CD?

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

 

 

 

www.michaelplishka.com

www.scribbledmusings.com

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_069A_01CF6D6B.C62B79E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 05:17:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 391D5183581; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:17:41 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" From: Cara Quinn In-Reply-To: <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 22:12:04 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:qVcSrRMBSQRr5nJcZT+LYyZ6u7SdRj1TzUhJzRdf4Ld IeL8YGSSjiLFsb8bsa3XIBvLKRrqHEi3Z7zhKBNOmxTDjhMQCF 119rbslLXCTRMQjtIVup4Kv2UTvmEG/k4AJMny14+ZGeLs+R2Y 9X1GxNsReMAaZStlCmhKs5ciEH1tZqOiJHnkytNsVvEGTwe6Fp a+j2UCcmGOAO/v0Qg24+/vdBuFdH2rRnTwtmgQyGz0ZnP6mg4o qFFG0EU8Kt6JLJKUD25yzR1tFBp796uV58giTwuZ2YxDQEdOXk 82l3tIvhwc7eTjMcvCY/LGuCoJvey3Kaw1yYE9ezkBnem1sxwc TAetwnCYHDENlmsnR/u2YfBMnLTbEav6Ca1Ufd+r7fIfkIUbxY qzWZJJXVSMsHw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Okay, so this is an old thread by now, but how about this?=85 Music is art related to sound=85 =95 This could be sound heard through the air =95 sound heard internally within one's consciousness =95 the absence of sound Music is the art related to this sound. The art arises from this sound. =95 the art may be viewed strictly based on sound through the air (I.E. = based on the organization or lack thereof of aural sound) =95 the art can also blossom from one's perceived internal sound or from = complete silence) In any case, music is art related to the concept of sound=85 Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:45 PM, In Mobile wrote: I'll add: Ultimately, any definition will be discarded as unreliable. While Leon = Theremin introduced dancing about music, talking about it is blah blah = blah. You know. So basically: music is a statement. It is so when you say so. And that's it. Olivier From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 05:24:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DD08183584; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to:content-type; bh=2pcPmc8MhrP3vkmXgIQ1EkKjxnT2mYcstP1xn/jUZc0=; b=JCd6eq1ZnkAqAR2JwBkK/Au56GQ2BS3dh4BG6X/WJjmoxYjOh8439TMmL8ARXbJr35 0IsPT3zhVeoCTnMyEdBp4GkY3bDiQlFzn9HVh74R7A/m6OWz3pXr/QMuqaWC7w+DfoUo iEpzeeE7q0/nFymNBRFrqAPWQoKp8XXLrfEp3LgjmFM251gF+TLMTH3++YNL3bjWdl+j +XL6ce61XEznqe/vy3faY/xUF5dznc/zPBBGrkwDBtZZiJHCuttZtOZX5s1Sz/uDgjVY SKUyD6QelZcfgvafL/k+tTnqkEDGPALljxz0HHUDHB0Ad+u1PzBal9D4PEH7BZPccThw uzRA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmd5Xawy85jm7b1+px8jNmLACq3sYYu29eIjP1e3Mfu3UXU9TJOXg2SNCqffQijkQpFlqH1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.14.233 with SMTP id s9mr13933061wic.53.1399872236055; Sun, 11 May 2014 22:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: dave@cranfordassociates.com Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 01:23:56 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gKlaajWuX1wBr1IX8nOupqn-tSc Message-ID: Subject: preamps? From: Dave Kline To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040fa03c5c847804f92d2784 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:24:29 +0000 (UTC) --f46d040fa03c5c847804f92d2784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Looking for the following solution minimum 2 x 1/4 inch inputs, more is better 3 band or more , preferably sweepable EQs on each channel ideally notch filter for feedback can take a range of pickups such as piezo, magnetic, also Schertler Stat V violin pickup effects loop, for effects, looper etc tuner out, built in tuner would be great acts as DI also with XLR out but also has 1/4 inch out [at least one] to go to an amp or a FRFR powered speaker such as Atomic CLR a really nice compressor would be great also [something along the lines of FMR Audio's ARC unit] >From my research potential options with some but not all features include Baggs Venue, Radial tonebone PZ plus, I just saw another one Atomicguitars.com AP10 mark II - anyone know anything about this? Wondering if there are any solutions I don't yet know about. Sound needs to be pristine, quiet, transparent, plenty of headroom. I'll be playing everything from folk to jazz to rock, both violins and steel and nylon acoustic guitars etc Thanks --f46d040fa03c5c847804f92d2784 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looking for the following solution

minimum 2 x 1/4 inch inputs, more is better
3 band or more , preferabl= y sweepable EQs on each channel
ideally notch filter for feedback
can take a range of pickups such as = piezo, magnetic, also Schertler Stat V violin pickup
effects loop, for effects, looper etc
tuner out, built in tuner would = be great
acts as DI also with XLR out but also has 1/4 inch out [at least one] to go= to an amp or a FRFR powered speaker such as Atomic CLR

a really nice compressor would be great also [something along the lines of = FMR Audio's ARC unit]

>From my research potential options with some but not all features include B= aggs Venue, Radial tonebone PZ plus,=C2=A0

I just saw another one Atomicguitars.com AP10 mark II - anyone know anythin= g about this?

Wondering if there are any solutions I don't yet know about. Sound need= s to be pristine, quiet, transparent, plenty of headroom. I'll be playi= ng everything from folk to jazz to rock, both violins and steel and nylon a= coustic guitars etc
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Thanks
--f46d040fa03c5c847804f92d2784-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 05:37:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B1C418357F; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_jf8rBcABAgMl18oxVTCnQw)" From: bill walker Message-id: Subject: Re: preamps? Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 22:36:14 -0700 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHREKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk0dWhxPBBl4c wceaRofGRxiEQpYXBcZBBoEGxsHTU4fGBgYGUsFGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHhofGxEKXlkXYVp NYFkRCkxGF2xraxEKQ1oXGx4YBBgfHgQbHQQYGBgRCkJFF3pAG11+YxxCHUwTEQpCThdrRRpSU B5DXFlcaBEKQkwXaRJeUllIZHgSbkMRCkJsF2NMSR1YY0Z4a1paEQpCQBdhclwZSRl5fkxtaxE KQlgXbVBnf0xraWlCGgURCnBnF2FQUnhjZntjUmZ+EQpwaBdnfGYabngZcBlfThEKcGgXYmBDQ GRvYG0FXRoRCnBoF2lyWl54TlNzbHhgEQpwaBdgTkkceEEZX1MBEhEKcGgXZhpOHXNzH3pIegU RCnB/F2RERVBIbXJnfUN9EQpwXxdiZk0aUF8BaE5QHxEKcH8XbGBLU35bUmJpfmERCnBsF25Of UFkQ15bZ0tfEQ== X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-11_03:2014-05-09,2014-05-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=6 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405120081 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:37:02 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_jf8rBcABAgMl18oxVTCnQw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ive used this for many years , seems to have everything you are looking for, an excellent sounding acoustic/electric swiss army preamp/mixer/blender http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml Bill On May 11, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Dave Kline wrote: > Looking for the following solution > > minimum 2 x 1/4 inch inputs, more is better > 3 band or more , preferably sweepable EQs on each channel > ideally notch filter for feedback > can take a range of pickups such as piezo, magnetic, also Schertler Stat V violin pickup > effects loop, for effects, looper etc > tuner out, built in tuner would be great > acts as DI also with XLR out but also has 1/4 inch out [at least one] to go to an amp or a FRFR powered speaker such as Atomic CLR > > a really nice compressor would be great also [something along the lines of FMR Audio's ARC unit] > > From my research potential options with some but not all features include Baggs Venue, Radial tonebone PZ plus, > > I just saw another one Atomicguitars.com AP10 mark II - anyone know anything about this? > > Wondering if there are any solutions I don't yet know about. Sound needs to be pristine, quiet, transparent, plenty of headroom. I'll be playing everything from folk to jazz to rock, both violins and steel and nylon acoustic guitars etc > > Thanks --Boundary_(ID_jf8rBcABAgMl18oxVTCnQw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ive used this for many years , seems to have everything you are looking for,  an excellent sounding acoustic/electric swiss army preamp/mixer/blender
Bill

On May 11, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Dave Kline <violindave@aol.com> wrote:

Looking for the following solution

minimum 2 x 1/4 inch inputs, more is better
3 band or more , preferably sweepable EQs on each channel
ideally notch filter for feedback
can take a range of pickups such as piezo, magnetic, also Schertler Stat V violin pickup
effects loop, for effects, looper etc
tuner out, built in tuner would be great
acts as DI also with XLR out but also has 1/4 inch out [at least one] to go to an amp or a FRFR powered speaker such as Atomic CLR

a really nice compressor would be great also [something along the lines of FMR Audio's ARC unit]

>From my research potential options with some but not all features include Baggs Venue, Radial tonebone PZ plus, 

I just saw another one Atomicguitars.com AP10 mark II - anyone know anything about this?

Wondering if there are any solutions I don't yet know about. Sound needs to be pristine, quiet, transparent, plenty of headroom. I'll be playing everything from folk to jazz to rock, both violins and steel and nylon acoustic guitars etc

Thanks

--Boundary_(ID_jf8rBcABAgMl18oxVTCnQw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 06:52:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA24618357D; Mon, 12 May 2014 06:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApQBAONucFNV0rqe/2dsb2JhbAANTMZ8gxEBgSuDGQEBAQECATIBBUAGCwshFg8JAwIBAgFFEwgBAYg1qUCkUheOWRaEKgEDsAY X-IPAS-Result: ApQBAONucFNV0rqe/2dsb2JhbAANTMZ8gxEBgSuDGQEBAQECATIBBUAGCwshFg8JAwIBAgFFEwgBAYg1qUCkUheOWRaEKgEDsAY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,1033,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="460689048" Message-ID: <53706FAD.7010806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:52:29 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 06:52:05 +0000 (UTC) On 12/05/2014 06:12, Cara Quinn wrote: > In any case, music is art related to the concept of sound… :-) I don't that's far off, however I have one reservation. In our society it might be a question whether all music is art. In other societies around the world there are cases where music has a purely ritual function. how about, Music:- " a statement or communication in sound that does not depend on language " ? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 10:09:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60456183581; Mon, 12 May 2014 10:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hAisHLoKocsEKQwfrbmVANsWn7WDvx3LnTB39HpOOxc=; b=RF9BVqKfAn0lkWLg24pbBMep1IQSk0ICfbLIlkGlJlwRtD/J7x58ydVuW5ZvNIASds ck4PDXxL3DX5Hsp4U1wByuhZzmeTfD7bIvmO+Pp2+BbAzYU7AvFfc/95I6jBUT8WEpvV c2UKNWkAYCFKA8FNDPrmrFy5+wC6hZV8urmtktbwcSYVZrmxJpywJ5zQBHqpBA8/39pr MvlzUOhR1s97y5mOFXszywcLHEiNEwEelLIM2SRQ5Xm53U3Zupsv2up7k8TWtjwl0vjE v6FW6ZMpHgIGgyoxa6m2vYeQxlLXsQgIGXLQz94yA5D6tIM2I3wFI766vN+R+VIHE7bO egUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.84.129 with SMTP id z1mr14713014wiy.8.1399889314650; Mon, 12 May 2014 03:08:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53706FAD.7010806@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53706FAD.7010806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 19:08:34 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" From: michael noble To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043bdec053209a04f93121dc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:09:08 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043bdec053209a04f93121dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:52 PM, andy butler wrote: > In our society it might be a question whether all music is art. There is also a fairly vigorously debated question as to whether all art that uses sound is music. --f46d043bdec053209a04f93121dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:52 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk= > wrote:
In our society it might be a question whethe= r all music is art.

There is also a fairly vigorously= debated question as to whether all art that uses sound is music.=C2=A0
--f46d043bdec053209a04f93121dc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 13:48:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9924E183581; Mon, 12 May 2014 13:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=DVoh3o+QqTdopfaK3Tlg9yRS7WKouULH5X+qc5Lq85M=; b=TdH2SQbMTgHuZW8D2Quh/gVGjzTBhqLdKn57MZzzFfF9XjWY61RW8r88Y5ycGV14w3 pS47M89FwUPtuMlks1GwCnfu4DS3aciamKAc7HiyreD+79YUU8Kj771X7ZacH9CeIvRa VXZyNg2Z6UiClHIE0ui7MjghBTPRlz8PrOgLCpD/djptniHyl3pryp+aFEvDq9dxlsKk W3hlxP6IyZKWma0fOo/htd0lrf1NuSJfR51L9Dz1DKTWJSUMQISIk/0Q7NrAVGvjMH1I IdpbP/ep+8qZ05huz02rfVEPTJKl3XQaZVqmV8wSkBgwwEil88p5Qu8DdLiWM2qYLIvC bW9A== X-Received: by 10.236.148.71 with SMTP id u47mr41786948yhj.82.1399902485745; Mon, 12 May 2014 06:48:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53706FAD.7010806@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 15:47:45 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 81gd9LNyN9Kq9k87dMAv-B_5gLE Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30363a9f6232d004f934328d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 13:48:39 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30363a9f6232d004f934328d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, michael noble wrote: > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:52 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> In our society it might be a question whether all music is art. > > > There is also a fairly vigorously debated question as to whether all art > that uses sound is music. > Its simple, if a musician made it, its music, if an artist made it, its art. If neither made it, its noise (not to be confused with the musical genre that is called noise, which is of course made by musicians so its music). -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://electricityplant.wordpress.com/ twitter @markfrancombe --20cf30363a9f6232d004f934328d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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In our society it might be a question whethe= r all music is art.

There is also a fairly vigorously= debated question as to whether all art that uses sound is music.=C2=A0

Its simple, if a musician made it, its music, if an = artist made it, its art. If neither made it, its noise (not to be confused = with the musical genre that is called noise, which is of course made by mus= icians so its music).


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--20cf30363a9f6232d004f934328d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 14:24:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22F02183581; Mon, 12 May 2014 14:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjoDABjZcFNV0rqe/2dsb2JhbAANTIcUv3WDBwUDAgGBLoMZAQEBAQIBIxU2CgYLCxoCBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFEwgBAYg1qix3o34XgSqNLxaCX4FLAQOwBg X-IPAS-Result: AjoDABjZcFNV0rqe/2dsb2JhbAANTIcUv3WDBwUDAgGBLoMZAQEBAQIBIxU2CgYLCxoCBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFEwgBAYg1qix3o34XgSqNLxaCX4FLAQOwBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,1035,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="455876638" Message-ID: <5370D99E.6000108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 15:24:30 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53706FAD.7010806@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 14:24:06 +0000 (UTC) On 12/05/2014 14:47, mark francombe wrote: > Its simple, no, this is the LD mailing list make a simple statement...someone will point out a complication From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 15:31:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 526C7183585; Mon, 12 May 2014 15:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=3Iczgn3wnTl0huJ9CUi+RnS6nrv9ZtbR9h1NB29niis=; b=t+jFcSzhNU9s318/WVT8xFHFDqYB3+FTNM21eTw+AwLBg5P6+RjpMhm3wq9PgiZeJj nJMpJdKwZgs8LJ84o2ryFsirLoUUMl749FDUHyhJiNLRF40ZJZc59eeHPu9cHl9ONH4N L161kWuDLCetkg/bOWs/cvr4FuaUsTgfHfIDBAWf+VbiJpvb1Rq1ejUwxdHCikiGPAiM FILgw7HXyfWhZUwujH5s6/f8PM98mCvyvCFSa5Krmyf5QmCPsnAZLpw+3IeVU4PkdHqB ToVU09+ODfFARO7cGqK4/mEQ1jQeEOtXalZboyIzR+y4BLNiKdsAV3Z7ij53J345a+lA iRpg== X-Received: by 10.112.135.106 with SMTP id pr10mr24745081lbb.24.1399908640227; Mon, 12 May 2014 08:30:40 -0700 (PDT) From: mark francombe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 17:30:36 +0200 References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53706FAD.7010806@tiscali.co.uk> <5370D99E.6000108@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5370D99E.6000108@tiscali.co.uk> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B554a) Resent-Message-ID: <6JjduB.A.AqH.ClOcTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 15:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Of course, I'm trolling! Sent from my (advertisement removed) > On 12 May 2014, at 16:24, andy butler wrote: > > > >> On 12/05/2014 14:47, mark francombe wrote: >> >> Its simple, > > no, this is the LD mailing list > > make a simple statement...someone will point out a complication > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 17:56:24 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 705DF183580; Mon, 12 May 2014 17:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Q7eKePKa c=1 sm=1 a=sWKv9GAtHqGQJ4dkg/UOxg==:17 a=pah44VSHqUkA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4sIg_KSpAAAA:8 a=8cyn0mv-AAAA:8 a=aNvxKOj4NuPesfqZKtkA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=JMcEX2g4xfcA:10 a=sWKv9GAtHqGQJ4dkg/UOxg==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: Question about Loopers Delight Compilation From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: <069901cf6d95$aefffb40$0cfff1c0$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:15:06 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3DC05E49-CCEA-44FA-BBFF-5F8B80D6362F@charter.net> References: <069901cf6d95$aefffb40$0cfff1c0$@michaelplishka.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: <5TLA8B.A.iiB.ItQcTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 17:56:24 +0000 (UTC) I should think so. I have a track on one of the compilation CDs that is also on my own = personal solo CD "Flux Aeterna" (released some years earlier). This was clear going in - and AFAIK always allowable. This is bound to be other instances of this.=20 Peace, Ted On May 11, 2014, at 8:53 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Fellow Loopers, > =20 > I misplaced the terms from the Looper=92s Delight CD. Are the artists, = moi, permitted to sell the tracks independent of the compilation CD? > =20 > Thanks, > =20 > Mike > =20 > www.michaelplishka.com > www.scribbledmusings.com > =20 > =20 > =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 18:48:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 485E7183581; Mon, 12 May 2014 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PB5kKPoagqHOsVkH2/vHxtyYXLmKP285Wl1fqknEjtI=; b=xG2zgIaWkg68E1+ByoafRzm21vBsNch3JzjO5URSggeUrJj/CvEcFCWLiNg9z/woPh Y0A9J8ewaS7Z+YIWZ7WEZyJuvETEP42ZzHsbF1qgc7AnnalyOta809EbMKSkwAxVlRYE a4zWK7JagGND7Z5jqUXpQJnx02SHR6b+M+y2zJekvdj8alxDiYGqIRQkJYdpdsas3w7J 69cYg2nwvr5a8ikDvl8mO/eyL3rucorTF9mXLapqWVDNGgiCo7tBuPb1e8WcmDn5LXXo VajVHQpzNPqRyTUbJy3dWmnVbX5F38oc3ejOgSQaiBMiVBLuX4cIlsfai97PagYXdNsa 32lw== X-Received: by 10.14.32.136 with SMTP id o8mr34461085eea.35.1399920505249; Mon, 12 May 2014 11:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 20:48:22 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) > Okay, so this is an old thread by now, but how about this?… > > Music is art related to sound… > > • This could be sound heard through the air > > • sound heard internally within one's consciousness > > • the absence of sound No, silence is not sound. It's like with money (should be easier to understand my point) - let's say you have a bank account with 0$. Then you have just an account, no money. You can even record the silence. Then you have a recording, but no sound and no music. Music is sound. Sound that have been composed and performed. But not every sound is music. We learn from others to differentiate between them (there is an important social/cultural aspect involved here - this allows for evolution of what we perceive as music). There are many aspects of sound that help us identify music - rhythm, melody and harmony, and less obvious like duration or timbre. Our brain performs an abstraction of these aspects. The abstraction is not very strict but rather fuzzy. This means we can easily disregard thunderclap or dog barking as music (both used as effects on a few recordings!), but if you look at phone ringing tones it's getting really complicated the more you go away from "traditional" telephone sounds. Now we slightly touch the subject - music with strong repetitive patterns (pop/rock) can be easier remembered, recognised and recalled, it is simply easier for our brain. Is is not an incidence that Ravel's Bolero is one of the most recognisable pieces of music. Conversely, avant-garde music requires much more effort from us and is considered as noise by many. This will never change, as avant-garde is always at the boundary or beyond of what is considered as music at the moment. This definition leaves out the internal sounds and for a good reason, as the performance aspect is really important. The internal sounds can be part of compositional process or listening experience, but do not constitute music as a whole. Now it's worth looking at the Bach's Kunst der Fuge, which had not been performed before composer's death. (Therefore so many different interpretations of this superb piece.) So what was it before its first performance? - "only" the composition. Just my few cents, Michał > > (...) > > Cara :) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 20:20:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CED56183581; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hQ4r6r8oPrPjrJFxW8g7JSN2Re0ZiWRypfCYW9CBq74=; b=RUWEK9zFaDp5n+FAKbWMlxXne9JDGA5elsHSamEIRGjwGzxZ433cndBbdxYaNCCyzu ysUzISKJ+LtLUw06TCOzw87KAn5jdeT4N0Sd1HHbqVxCnMM/FSTATi2HJO8fgAWF8ql4 flKdHVQOdLyp5hAbldpyHGfT52Rc34azC9EtWgdWKI8I/B/gQLp3SkLjellqjc1HSx5x gkwuOUxTJ28n1oi44niRRfoLmOCjfcAdzl5HnG8Q41hkGEeRa5GYUvQGY60q/+8Q+n1I wLcmjJzkdlmwx4QjH+oxw+XNdw4kKkcPods2hWM+rTQw4y5h0o24zcx2c6Z4C5aSTQ5k 3wag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.143.104 with SMTP id sd8mr47420445igb.18.1399926007353; Mon, 12 May 2014 13:20:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 13:20:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" From: Todd Elliott To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135f1a66157d704f939ac1f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 20:20:40 +0000 (UTC) --001a1135f1a66157d704f939ac1f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is no such thing as silence. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski wrote: > Okay, so this is an old thread by now, but how about this?=E2=80=A6 >> >> Music is art related to sound=E2=80=A6 >> >> =E2=80=A2 This could be sound heard through the air >> >> =E2=80=A2 sound heard internally within one's consciousness >> >> =E2=80=A2 the absence of sound >> > > No, silence is not sound. > It's like with money (should be easier to understand my point) - let's sa= y > you have a bank account with 0$. Then you have just an account, no money. > You can even record the silence. Then you have a recording, but no sound > and no music. > > Music is sound. > Sound that have been composed and performed. But not every sound is music= . > We learn from others to differentiate between them (there is an important > social/cultural aspect involved here - this allows for evolution of what = we > perceive as music). There are many aspects of sound that help us identify > music - rhythm, melody and harmony, and less obvious like duration or > timbre. Our brain performs an abstraction of these aspects. The abstracti= on > is not very strict but rather fuzzy. This means we can easily disregard > thunderclap or dog barking as music (both used as effects on a few > recordings!), but if you look at phone ringing tones it's getting really > complicated the more you go away from "traditional" telephone sounds. > > Now we slightly touch the subject - music with strong repetitive patterns > (pop/rock) can be easier remembered, recognised and recalled, it is simpl= y > easier for our brain. Is is not an incidence that Ravel's Bolero is one o= f > the most recognisable pieces of music. Conversely, avant-garde music > requires much more effort from us and is considered as noise by many. Thi= s > will never change, as avant-garde is always at the boundary or beyond of > what is considered as music at the moment. > > This definition leaves out the internal sounds and for a good reason, as > the performance aspect is really important. The internal sounds can be pa= rt > of compositional process or listening experience, but do not constitute > music as a whole. Now it's worth looking at the Bach's Kunst der Fuge, > which had not been performed before composer's death. (Therefore so many > different interpretations of this superb piece.) So what was it before it= s > first performance? - "only" the composition. > > Just my few cents, > Micha=C5=82 > > >> (...) >> >> Cara :) >> >> > --=20 http://alisongmadrigal.bandcamp.com http://toaster.bandcamp.com --001a1135f1a66157d704f939ac1f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is no such thing as silence.


=


O= n Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski <mihalw@gmail.com= > wrote:
Okay, so this is an old thread by now, but how about this?=E2=80=A6

Music is art related to sound=E2=80=A6

=E2=80=A2 This could be sound heard through the air

=E2=80=A2 sound heard internally within one's consciousness

=E2=80=A2 the absence of sound

No, silence is not sound.
It's like with money (should be easier to understand my point) - let= 9;s say you have a bank account with 0$. Then you have just an account, no = money.
You can even record the silence. Then you have a recording, but no sound an= d no music.

Music is sound.
Sound that have been composed and performed. But not every sound is music. = We learn from others to differentiate between them (there is an important s= ocial/cultural aspect involved here - this allows for evolution of what we = perceive as music). There are many aspects of sound that help us identify m= usic - =C2=A0rhythm, melody and harmony, and less obvious like duration or = timbre. Our brain performs an abstraction of these aspects. The abstraction= is not very strict but rather fuzzy. This means we can easily disregard th= underclap or dog barking as music (both used as effects on a few recordings= !), but if you look at phone ringing tones it's getting really complica= ted the more you go away from "traditional" telephone sounds.

Now we slightly touch the subject - music with strong repetitive patterns (= pop/rock) can be easier remembered, recognised and recalled, it is simply e= asier for our brain. Is is not an incidence that Ravel's Bolero is one = of the most recognisable pieces of music. Conversely, avant-garde music req= uires much more effort from us and is considered as noise by many. This wil= l never change, as avant-garde is always at the boundary or beyond of what = is considered as music at the moment.

This definition leaves out the internal sounds and for a good reason, as th= e performance aspect is really important. The internal sounds can be part o= f compositional process or listening experience, but do not constitute musi= c as a whole. Now it's worth looking at the Bach's Kunst der Fuge, = which had not been performed before composer's death. (Therefore so man= y different interpretations of this superb piece.) So what was it before it= s first performance? - "only" the composition.

Just my few cents,
Micha=C5=82


(...)

Cara :)





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--001a1135f1a66157d704f939ac1f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 12 20:37:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CAD5183581; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pIX4i8Az73e3acgmGPrJ70T6bbELSMZwCAXG4dE4NE4=; b=Ia6oYhijsVQgdNsTd3YoiLSnvRBvOG7Cto9SFZzSBMXbJsEpjlZxg5dSlb62jwHi7A O7tUdnFDMudYqrXLjzA+qEVYOQCVvEtDzUrbVkCRFPqqZT0cmtlkHqRPjBJAem39FQuN jz7no3ittydlBDZEJNoDdtehAPPjeIgagja6XPPUH4smy1zj+qr9g4lde2yEQl9tqXPK Ssjhi1OUZSg0pn7gOUOrGSb6SPOBdOHzox0s0ZzNE//ixtLYhKZrvpkF18dG96taXkMI 3BfPoOjHONnWu5Q6yKMPQ85Sp2MqUHtM9cozvNRm91O9ue1U6IV6LlM2eBmkGfd6u/DY 9CZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.236.1 with SMTP id ki1mr41960738qcb.8.1399927032689; Mon, 12 May 2014 13:37:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 13:37:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134bdda7eb93f04f939e9d0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 20:37:46 +0000 (UTC) --001a1134bdda7eb93f04f939e9d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is no such thing as silence. or God either. "And the same goes for Christmas" stirring, stirring Kevin On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski wrote: > Okay, so this is an old thread by now, but how about this?=E2=80=A6 >> >> Music is art related to sound=E2=80=A6 >> >> =E2=80=A2 This could be sound heard through the air >> >> =E2=80=A2 sound heard internally within one's consciousness >> >> =E2=80=A2 the absence of sound >> > > No, silence is not sound. > It's like with money (should be easier to understand my point) - let's sa= y > you have a bank account with 0$. Then you have just an account, no money. > You can even record the silence. Then you have a recording, but no sound > and no music. > > Music is sound. > Sound that have been composed and performed. But not every sound is music= . > We learn from others to differentiate between them (there is an important > social/cultural aspect involved here - this allows for evolution of what = we > perceive as music). There are many aspects of sound that help us identify > music - rhythm, melody and harmony, and less obvious like duration or > timbre. Our brain performs an abstraction of these aspects. The abstracti= on > is not very strict but rather fuzzy. This means we can easily disregard > thunderclap or dog barking as music (both used as effects on a few > recordings!), but if you look at phone ringing tones it's getting really > complicated the more you go away from "traditional" telephone sounds. > > Now we slightly touch the subject - music with strong repetitive patterns > (pop/rock) can be easier remembered, recognised and recalled, it is simpl= y > easier for our brain. Is is not an incidence that Ravel's Bolero is one o= f > the most recognisable pieces of music. Conversely, avant-garde music > requires much more effort from us and is considered as noise by many. Thi= s > will never change, as avant-garde is always at the boundary or beyond of > what is considered as music at the moment. > > This definition leaves out the internal sounds and for a good reason, as > the performance aspect is really important. The internal sounds can be pa= rt > of compositional process or listening experience, but do not constitute > music as a whole. Now it's worth looking at the Bach's Kunst der Fuge, > which had not been performed before composer's death. (Therefore so many > different interpretations of this superb piece.) So what was it before it= s > first performance? - "only" the composition. > > Just my few cents, > Micha=C5=82 > > >> (...) >> >> Cara :) >> >> > --=20 http://alisongmadrigal.bandcamp.com http://toaster.bandcamp.com --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a1134bdda7eb93f04f939e9d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



Th= ere is no such thing as silence.

or God either.=C2=A0
"And the same goes for Christmas"

stirrin= g, stirring

Kevin


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Micha=C5=82 Wierno= wolski <mihalw@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, so this is an old thread by now, but how about this?=E2=80=A6

Music is art related to sound=E2=80=A6

=E2=80=A2 This could be sound heard through the air

=E2=80=A2 sound heard internally within one's consciousness

=E2=80=A2 the absence of sound

No, silence is not sound.
It's like with money (should be easier to understand my point) - let= 9;s say you have a bank account with 0$. Then you have just an account, no = money.
You can even record the silence. Then you have a recording, but no sound an= d no music.

Music is sound.
Sound that have been composed and performed. But not every sound is music. = We learn from others to differentiate between them (there is an important s= ocial/cultural aspect involved here - this allows for evolution of what we = perceive as music). There are many aspects of sound that help us identify m= usic - =C2=A0rhythm, melody and harmony, and less obvious like duration or = timbre. Our brain performs an abstraction of these aspects. The abstraction= is not very strict but rather fuzzy. This means we can easily disregard th= underclap or dog barking as music (both used as effects on a few recordings= !), but if you look at phone ringing tones it's getting really complica= ted the more you go away from "traditional" telephone sounds.

Now we slightly touch the subject - music with strong repetitive patterns (= pop/rock) can be easier remembered, recognised and recalled, it is simply e= asier for our brain. Is is not an incidence that Ravel's Bolero is one = of the most recognisable pieces of music. Conversely, avant-garde music req= uires much more effort from us and is considered as noise by many. This wil= l never change, as avant-garde is always at the boundary or beyond of what = is considered as music at the moment.

This definition leaves out the internal sounds and for a good reason, as th= e performance aspect is really important. The internal sounds can be part o= f compositional process or listening experience, but do not constitute musi= c as a whole. Now it's worth looking at the Bach's Kunst der Fuge, = which had not been performed before composer's death. (Therefore so man= y different interpretations of this superb piece.) So what was it before it= s first performance? - "only" the composition.

Just my few cents,
Micha=C5=82


(...)

Cara :)





--



--
Till now you seriously considered yo= urself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance w= hich is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)=

--001a1134bdda7eb93f04f939e9d0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 00:22:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68D3C18357D; Tue, 13 May 2014 00:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to; bh=flftaJHoBMQt9E3X+A2a6Nvu+59Win288jgaQA5g0GM=; b=DjAV6Gi3pKfdXov3pVJwWhR3S1CUEaQUFXDVU6+GimNsR4Qsloyrd63pajY5VwPbg6 cAQW87UIAESSj7lAO5qmf+43RNgVowUTMfZJLrOuTE+WhMqP05Vz/TdFIyZnu1cfoq7Q hBVITq7GdMONBakxLFMQ4BgUSBYGCgsWhIF0UkfrYw8B17aqGeaWDXWXqPspb/FJLPTT 7eZW6yTtb8NXEWyles3yf1Bjz4u6vPxekyzySv0bz+cFMQpNLhTYOS3W1Cbl7XUvEfcW Rb0EEn6Zn5UYxv4Jjna8H2MuX63r7ZegJW4zIceqUb7aNQ398grBMC6EKAJaAqeZr6xV 8imw== X-Received: by 10.66.66.225 with SMTP id i1mr47422215pat.0.1399940529418; Mon, 12 May 2014 17:22:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Ed Durbrow From: Ed Durbrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A00EBADF-A91B-4306-A011-FC2B1C750C4A" Message-Id: <7EC07418-CAEF-4040-B97C-C29E086F18AE@sea.plala.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Subject: Re: reanimating my frippertronics setup Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:22:05 +0900 References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 00:22:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_A00EBADF-A91B-4306-A011-FC2B1C750C4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Enjoyed that a lot. On May 12, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z7b6zsO_2k > > -Michael > > Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail=_A00EBADF-A91B-4306-A011-FC2B1C750C4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Enjoyed that a lot.

On May 12, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

reanimating my frippertronics setup


--Apple-Mail=_A00EBADF-A91B-4306-A011-FC2B1C750C4A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 02:52:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 353EA183585; Tue, 13 May 2014 02:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zJIhh8QWL/gDeSfK/o/hh3gQU+VJxHWC6OjW6d/QMnI=; b=RGzJCB6yGKL7vVHtduRQUR0iJ8jhltwpjEoAln7xPQBETQ9DQo10kM6M/23g7tS2QH cGVNeIfjrRVVIuaEYew63r15m2a5dd980Zia/RZlXAAW9ftwxQkiPXVN51gVd+npeE74 hCw4//1KTVGQrmg4A11v1E7W/dkJS5gZaSunZIYIFMSVjmRak8i0vgNovbDvill7sjM1 3Dze9fBCOdXavSzKM4freGfaGs7vrlQDRHMdFhFkpP+nnVOWksOT3BM1Drz9shdAeu22 wHG1fiQVdW5h1CA/kAf2HxGEPOl6BSCGuQYGt1bdQDAIZjPnzFA7dRXVkIGcMAxDFDQh XrEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.36.4 with SMTP id r4mr10786018qad.84.1399949492371; Mon, 12 May 2014 19:51:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 22:51:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: reanimating my frippertronics setup From: Jim Goodin To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0153728032472204f93f248a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 02:52:06 +0000 (UTC) --089e0153728032472204f93f248a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael that's great - such dedication to the 'source'. I love the fact you have the open reels. I was never that vast but years ago when I worked in 'analog' television production I had pair studers at my disposal and felt that that only that can give. Well done, love your tone and ideas in your 'reanimating'. Jim On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9Z7b6zsO_2k > > -Michael > > --=20 -- *Wood and Wire Ware Mobile *iOS mobile creations of James Goodin and Wood and Wire Ware *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. Proceeds f= rom this CD will benefit *JDRF International * --089e0153728032472204f93f248a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Michael that's great - such dedication to the 'sou= rce'. =C2=A0I love the fact you have the open reels. =C2=A0I was never = that vast but years ago when I worked in 'analog' television produc= tion I had pair studers at my disposal and felt that that only that can giv= e.

Well done, love your tone and ideas in your 'reanimating= '.

Jim
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On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Michael = Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:



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The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=C2=A0-= 'Organically inspired New Music'
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From Br= ooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=C3=B6rn.=C2=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International
--089e0153728032472204f93f248a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 03:29:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39E4B18357C; Tue, 13 May 2014 03:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 429 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Tue, 13 May 2014 03:29:29 UTC X-Sender-Id: totalchoicehosting|x-authuser|mike%40michaelplishka.com X-Sender-Id: totalchoicehosting|x-authuser|mike%40michaelplishka.com X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: totalchoicehosting%7Cx-authuser%7Cmike%2540michaelplishka.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: totalchoicehosting From: To: References: <069901cf6d95$aefffb40$0cfff1c0$@michaelplishka.com> <3DC05E49-CCEA-44FA-BBFF-5F8B80D6362F@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <3DC05E49-CCEA-44FA-BBFF-5F8B80D6362F@charter.net> Subject: RE: Question about Loopers Delight Compilation Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 22:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: <048d01cf6e5a$77a97520$66fc5f60$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJS+k02UyBvOqipmyxg8OqC80TC4QHZA3k/mif3/YA= Content-Language: en-us X-AuthUser: mike@michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 03:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Ted, That's what I thought, but since I couldn't find the original agreement, I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!! ~peace~ Mike -----Original Message----- From: Ted Killian [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 12:15 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Question about Loopers Delight Compilation I should think so. I have a track on one of the compilation CDs that is also on my own personal solo CD "Flux Aeterna" (released some years earlier). This was clear going in - and AFAIK always allowable. This is bound to be other instances of this. Peace, Ted On May 11, 2014, at 8:53 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Fellow Loopers, > > I misplaced the terms from the Looper's Delight CD. Are the artists, moi, permitted to sell the tracks independent of the compilation CD? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > www.michaelplishka.com > www.scribbledmusings.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 11:41:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53E2A183582; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: vst file player Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 13:40:15 +0200 Message-ID: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF6EB0.E5943AB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac9un8Q0taD90QDRQp6IPpRPyW/C0A== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: <-okPmC.A.k1.QTgcTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 11:41:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF6EB0.E5943AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need a VST file player that can play wav files, displaying the progress in the file (as amplitude curves) while playing. I want to play along to something that has no simple timing and need to hit notes in time with chords in the file - if you don't see when they come, this is not very easy -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF6EB0.E5943AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable vst file player

I need a VST file player that can play = wav files, = displaying = the progress in the file (as = amplitude curves) while playing. I want to play along to something that = has no simple timing and need to hit notes in time with chords = in the file - if you don't see when they come, this is not very = easy

-Michael

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF6EB0.E5943AB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 12:15:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57373183583; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4hZs+ApNhZfZomdk68k7CNKnDKtY0tokGiBAycGW+38=; b=Rm3o7dHLSg/Jc2Th1lW/qLmgNPc38v4gQVDWTliiITRs9fTrUxohA4La6o6vq1QDU1 9627Yyt8fEeqHaQxdGdC5DAvoWUfd9UD1u+v7Y4GJMTYeJd2G++L9m2P9XrPpyl8EJe6 IOHfBm+9UJWLR+J+z9Gvy6HaeRzLPmiJBGYr4wyntdwN2gUpnwYIpF4+uMt999p0bFmE G5p0vP79PiGbz/+kV/FJ+hYc5HHeDLihQuZjiYPZAlMAQmCq1kerJ10o+cyovpT1K7ag jIiP0+fmf3Utb4znznVOXsGlDXNX1DN8Qo7onh2ZXMKU4vIXyKzWPA8qhJgCp1ZyqBNO lJeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.69.71 with SMTP id c7mr2448896oeu.82.1399983266828; Tue, 13 May 2014 05:14:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> References: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 14:14:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst file player From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Anything with a graphic audio wave display would do fine! Most DAW applications support that. Ideally you may look for something like the SoundCloud player that can play a file from the internal drive; or upload the file to SoundCloud and play along over wifi :-) How about that file player Winamp - maybe it has a skin that displays the played back file as a waveform? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > I need a VST file player that can play wav files, displaying the progress in > the file (as amplitude curves) while playing. I want to play along to > something that has no simple timing and need to hit notes in time with > chords in the file - if you don't see when they come, this is not very easy > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 12:17:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1985A183583; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MX0WxZaiH/fEHBRxntcvQxlFsbqKovj8YGfOmhuHp9U=; b=qUzFjWqF1DgBTfShHLaLfs+D4NycMLqQ9p+INqdKrmHSu7bVKj9aarhIgqPg+uz42G 5Mtq0jov8Jcpb5zN6a1rR8q04jF9TI7S4c9ciuFaAg2WSJeArliAfet0gNAUGlg5L+cA phkoGSqti0tPu2QQCun7toi8O3nNPWPxlX/uABtooGRQQk7qmdryCsQ9EVdG0V3FC1HS O3Twi1ESwWxoaW01pW20RZK+57JlJFFPZXVNs3+mcLYz4fdr2XxX8Bj0ZJCa2z8GHdtX enIRWpUDwwI60n65JQmR3ut6f2/zG0r/b8AfxbKx5xKmLoHSDGRqlgBUsf8RkIqrcAL3 ft+g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.69.71 with SMTP id c7mr2463738oeu.82.1399983385877; Tue, 13 May 2014 05:16:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 14:16:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst file player From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Or just use a sample/file editor application! I think all of the them has a graphic waveform display with a cursor in the form of a vertical line moving along with audio playback (SoundForge etc) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Anything with a graphic audio wave display would do fine! Most DAW > applications support that. Ideally you may look for something like the > SoundCloud player that can play a file from the internal drive; or > upload the file to SoundCloud and play along over wifi :-) How about > that file player Winamp - maybe it has a skin that displays the played > back file as a waveform? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> I need a VST file player that can play wav files, displaying the progress in >> the file (as amplitude curves) while playing. I want to play along to >> something that has no simple timing and need to hit notes in time with >> chords in the file - if you don't see when they come, this is not very easy >> >> -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 12:51:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7163018357F; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PTjT+xQnwi2s49iXBcb9yhYlnfILYPNKCbf0jbmMlho=; b=iSHT8ywpUqSU053qjktW6dlTcTmP61RV7GOKUIVMCcUOnwz4l1dbKrAPk7aeoJTQz+ 6BvRHKEtrq2s7PCEZVPFsKk0/tg7cw20L0DZvZjy78noSQK1cqbUAw8POQFBOqOL8Vpo C7HVXOxuG1Jwf5Lp8H/KiAudT1JwY1dJ5wIpV7ZdNbAQdS/hsi0rAWB4c7y+28Xg/Dwp WB5JPiZF99qh9fulbzo7Wk6qNKB8HQlo/WqG2HbywpQ2nCVr9lwgZryfpgrANNjRhcam 7AMqLJ3l4DtWZFL4RVW5/YVUtl4oPF2W9OaP3MEf/c+9oLAzG29cFsDQq2vIiLR9+Hzl X+LA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.101.6 with SMTP id fc6mr5149086wib.59.1399985455778; Tue, 13 May 2014 05:50:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 08:50:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst file player From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044400e4c8541904f947831b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:51:30 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044400e4c8541904f947831b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you need VST? This would be very easy to do in Pure Data or Max and I can think of a possible hack in Bidule... If I had some spare time, I'd look into making you vst, but I'm about to leave for a short vacation... When do you need this? Sylvain =E2=80=8B --f46d044400e4c8541904f947831b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Do you need VST? =C2=A0This would be very easy to do in Pu= re Data or Max and I can think of a possible hack in Bidule...

If I had some spare time, I'd look into making you vst, but I= 9;m about to leave for a short vacation... =C2=A0When do you need this? =C2= =A0

Sylvain
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--f46d044400e4c8541904f947831b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 14:36:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DD7118357F; Tue, 13 May 2014 14:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Tue, 13 May 2014 14:36:02 UTC Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 10:06:31 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <05B6B06F7D244E958D8D7725698F862C@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140513-1, 05/13/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 14:36:02 +0000 (UTC) This is so clear and well-said. I am saving this. Thanks, Cara! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara Quinn" To: Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:12 AM Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" Okay, so this is an old thread by now, but how about this?… Music is art related to sound… • This could be sound heard through the air • sound heard internally within one's consciousness • the absence of sound Music is the art related to this sound. The art arises from this sound. • the art may be viewed strictly based on sound through the air (I.E. based on the organization or lack thereof of aural sound) • the art can also blossom from one's perceived internal sound or from complete silence) In any case, music is art related to the concept of sound… Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:45 PM, In Mobile wrote: I'll add: Ultimately, any definition will be discarded as unreliable. While Leon Theremin introduced dancing about music, talking about it is blah blah blah. You know. So basically: music is a statement. It is so when you say so. And that's it. Olivier --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 16:01:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95BB6183580; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 525 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:01:49 UTC X-Authenticated-User: amanda.ptank.com Subject: Re: vst file player References: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> From: Amanda Chaudhary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D167) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <16F8DE6A-1457-46B3-92BB-587A4EAD311F@ptank.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 08:52:23 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.53723FBB.01A3,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 16:01:49 +0000 (UTC) What platform do you need? OSX, windows, Linux, mobile? -Amanda > On May 13, 2014, at 5:50 AM, Sylvain Poitras w= rote: >=20 > Do you need VST? This would be very easy to do in Pure Data or Max and I c= an think of a possible hack in Bidule... >=20 > If I had some spare time, I'd look into making you vst, but I'm about to l= eave for a short vacation... When do you need this? =20 >=20 > Sylvain > =E2=80=8B From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 18:17:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDD3D183581; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4DALlgclNYbRly/2dsb2JhbAANTIcUihC1doMMAwIBgTmDGQEBAQECASMVQBELGAICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFEwgBAYg1qyZ3mwQXgSqNKxaCX4FLAQOwFw X-IPAS-Result: Aj4DALlgclNYbRly/2dsb2JhbAANTIcUihC1doMMAwIBgTmDGQEBAQECASMVQBELGAICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFEwgBAYg1qyZ3mwQXgSqNKxaCX4FLAQOwFw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,1044,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="465688590" Message-ID: <537261E3.6050009@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 19:18:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:17:43 +0000 (UTC) On 12/05/2014 21:37, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > > > There is no such thing as silence. > > or God either. > > "And the same goes for Christmas" .....Mike Nesmith > > stirring, stirring > > Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 18:27:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F386183583; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wPo3ggyLwotHWWYU799bSMo05UvyQJJBEui+IVphYoE=; b=F24+i81lQ3BwSnAbW1xhGy2FobKIkTIYrxNTvA8E0Bfnibv4khbI7jOFbOoczh8krn 4wVKWwbQRg0g30O5oKkEKEuuKh/nsNUUBWez+HhefZpo/h6B/NlKX/xbqmGvUkKfFe4X uAFzIDGhM4bsoqnsxpyQUB6okJ9lx9KyARrMT07HOiCraZaq0hfxgblkSwddJKbbL8Fb HTFy9PUgtJo2H+zJa3exthH0eDVeS7NRqM/w1bbkO7k1EdmCfPc7fgpHdXz9q70jOo5a 9lZ9MSyjGDq3y7ch0Xkyycy56+Sw+6eWEk8nJI6mqphBnQqvWGc2wXU+Y39emaJnMI66 awWw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.97.197 with SMTP id m63mr47965408qge.15.1400005617855; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:26:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <537261E3.6050009@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> <537261E3.6050009@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 11:26:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a927e89304e04f94c3534 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:27:32 +0000 (UTC) --001a113a927e89304e04f94c3534 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> "And the same goes for Christmas" >> > > .....Mike Nesmith > Thank you, I feel better now. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a113a927e89304e04f94c3534 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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"And the same goes for Christmas"

.....Mike Nesmith

Thank y= ou, I feel better now.

Kevin

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--001a113a927e89304e04f94c3534-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 18:35:21 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54269183587; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApQBAPlkclNYbRly/2dsb2JhbAANTMcagwcKAYE5gxkBAQEBAzhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGzXJt5F45VFoQqBLAX X-IPAS-Result: ApQBAPlkclNYbRly/2dsb2JhbAANTMcagwcKAYE5gxkBAQEBAzhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGzXJt5F45VFoQqBLAX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,1044,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="612488915" Message-ID: <53726606.6090708@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 19:35:50 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vst file player References: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> In-Reply-To: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5yblzD.A.7TG.pXmcTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Doesn't make sense, the VST Host is the file player. Not saying such a thing does not exist though. Would melodyne vst do it? In Bidule I'd do this by setting up some audio meters and delays, say 4, file player >>meter1>>delay1 >>meter2>>delay2 >>meter3>>delay3 >>meter4>>delay4>>audio output. then the meters would go 1-2-3-4 and you hit the chord ;-) andy On 13/05/2014 12:40, Michael Peters wrote: > I need a VST file player thatcan play wav files,displayingtheprogress in thefile (as amplitude curves) while playing. I want to play along to something that has nosimple timing and need to hit notes in time with chords in the file - if you don't see when they come, this is not very easy > > -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 13 18:59:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20BD8183581; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ja7xSUWNoYFsxHiqifsr/kWeapOWd3PyjiwMMqirLCY=; b=mGBRqPJXQCq1zn27wYO/IuCN8AIDSb2Jw9GuY1eUanzYZuO4I7Tn+3CD2K96xs/Pd1 UW4xEsnPshF0uxf5WMaGqh7hMdXP8QN8SoA9+HwZAyJ1ORAxbhLlX7YJKv5Q0XNNw/d8 OI62SuMqdfS+gBLOjVodCYsY4/jBM1hXGY715Qhu4791toeMg8awtgMe2lWrGAgu84Ch Wvjkvts8WuW3EbxuYaWQO/WqxOU6I6sPNgGSVjszYYEvuklyZJboKeemoDMLL1rOtxqx SSuy0MMvd/W6L2ngI2j8j2lZ0/h+U1VKDhda6M4KxaJhrhHdQ9YRBLLEwnv9cw/mmW0Z Z6rA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.63.196 with SMTP id i4mr9263862wjs.50.1400007542082; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:59:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53726606.6090708@tiscali.co.uk> References: <000001cf6ea0$220b6ab0$66224010$@mpeters.de> <53726606.6090708@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 14:59:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst file player From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86dd003a94e104f94ca865 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:59:38 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b86dd003a94e104f94ca865 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:35 PM, andy butler wrote: > file player > >> meter1>>delay1 >>> meter2>>delay2 >>> meter3>>delay3 >>> meter4>>delay4>>audio output. >>> >> > then the meters would go 1-2-3-4 and you hit the chord ;-) > That's the sort of thing I had in mind as well for Bidule. You could also use the amplitude to trigger a click track sound. Used in combination with the delays, you could have an auditory counting cue and look away from your monitor as you play. Sylvain --047d7b86dd003a94e104f94ca865 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:35 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk= > wrote:
file player
meter1>>delay1
meter2>>delay2
meter3>>delay3
meter4>>delay4>>audio output.

then the meters would go 1-2-3-4 and you hit the chord ;-)

That's the sort of thing I had in mind as well for Bidule. = =C2=A0You could also use the amplitude to trigger a click track sound. =C2= =A0Used in combination with the delays, you could have an auditory counting= cue and look away from your monitor as you play.

Sylvain
--047d7b86dd003a94e104f94ca865-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 16 10:00:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EA75183582; Fri, 16 May 2014 10:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1400234363; bh=CasExYsN2dmox5WoKyxkbwCFV22T5ihNtgTLsu8y+Ws=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ts1XB8SHznJ+YBdNPrEmPG0BPuesgMj1I5RksM/j2mIASfmbD4IFq9mlG2clpBdPFB/Z8BsBQ7YqenH6afX67UN9cv4i8+B0X4vUDIUeCjR899UN0G6loRnelZDjg1ERok686MdxoaJeVwM0Ym0qvcjgxNoad1E+SZNh5YkDNKQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 400507.99626.bm@smtp124.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: B5N.p4kVM1nFeU9pXw.9agcr1lN2073Ccz0YFpk1vGouw9o ZX6YDdW48y5kEPKWXlahS8PqOGKUhS1WfqVVEcFgO_R_3cYkvlXKNLnD5D2P vb4XBtRLD2alhi7dSoLBb029ysZm5KqsqU1RHpHHUlUGpDlR4T2PSV5UBcPm QUzoMoesaDgmPD7zaeZBfMq17KUgkTrTg_w0qm3nkz65AFXnzZYicbA1dJmM 3qSvEhVFsOvL8MdSkSrqUEskDQC8m5AOdLw5SyWwq3nmXUujpL2h.hKf3MCs HM8tdwTDl5AYF4IjUyZP_68vAJHbNxhMpd_cvtFo2WjbjJcTOLWz5KusiPW5 03MUnzibxGcWN3HEZgpik054agMJVS6hFNC9jrrLQSt9s8I_Lq4jhHoDoaoL aDRfgp0F_Mjbf.tjk.AEkig1qMz5wDxyhPPE5XJmJnJEf6.lHGvFBtQyALkv 4UNIYMZXCUyOZniXPxC9b.mIqfmGL5FoIRM7MGrJ6To.DvoElZzZMbML3FO3 nsdvMcsZK6lYCVRLNXU1_rERLTq0MyzWlLQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.2.103] (benoitruelle@149.154.238.49 with plain [188.125.69.59]) by smtp124.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2014 09:59:23 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <5375E163.2070205@yahoo.fr> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:58:59 +0200 From: benoit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:00:02 +0000 (UTC) On 12/05/2014 20:48, Michał Wiernowolski wrote: >> Okay, so this is an old thread by now, but how about this?… >> >> Music is art related to sound… >> >> • This could be sound heard through the air >> >> • sound heard internally within one's consciousness >> >> • the absence of sound > > No, silence is not sound. > (...) > Music is sound. > Sound that have been composed and performed. (..) Well, I'm currently having a go at writing a program generating Terry Riley's "in C". I debug the program without listening to the actual output (a midi file) but look at dumps and analysis of this output file. It's a bit like looking in the matrix ;=) I am not able read a staff (that would be the "sound heard internally within one's consciousness") but I can compare numbers and have an idea of the music beeing generated. So is this music with the absence of sound? :=) Ben From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 16 17:16:21 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B6E5183588; Fri, 16 May 2014 17:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ywh8YWgYHRwJWS68dGubVyGQ0x+7frnfd4UUEvNqwZs=; b=yHLQpd56ZgDR+1ur9cTcegzuLkOrQ7+1FpYvdA4WYW/03i1fGEqRi4wVk3uRHfh5AN BRUI8VgXCI4PA+VixQ5Dgtw3Va1iq3f2uN7g5IeMMKXTCYKhaF46D5I5UJQ1yoydi5En 9aUwGGR/vn7MS1BGV1jxw1C+oGNdbPD4PJ3Bc7MTF2KVVVWAjwNjUBWxVUQdQjyU/GLd +p/fKiqSpVfxRJ+6w/40giuZniBKMf0P/iGiq44tcG9iaXk8EM1HjRyJDLTlO95hTmvg RMhHx0TnNDBNjGNzszKKPvDT/EQ/ouaq+gqd0RbLfDm7BS7/LnprUAkOJmnVWW4CNzAV 5pDQ== X-Received: by 10.15.73.134 with SMTP id h6mr24194601eey.3.1400260543220; Fri, 16 May 2014 10:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <537647BC.9020808@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 19:15:40 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music" References: <20140326154440.CD0DE18354D@arsenic.violacea.com> <2D787E82-1F4E-4155-AAE1-FB3B4CBF4158@laposte.net> <53711776.3070008@gmail.com> <5375E163.2070205@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <5375E163.2070205@yahoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 17:16:21 +0000 (UTC) On 16.05.2014 11:58, benoit wrote: > (...) > Well, I'm currently having a go at writing a program generating Terry > Riley's "in C". > I debug the program without listening to the actual output (a midi > file) but look at dumps and analysis of this output file. > It's a bit like looking in the matrix ;=) > > I am not able read a staff (that would be the "sound heard internally > within one's consciousness") but I can compare numbers and have an > idea of the music beeing generated. > So is this music with the absence of sound? > :=) > > Ben > > Your example is interesting and a bit tricky, as it is aleatoric music. Still, I think my definition holds.:) I was trying to say that sound is an inherent part of music. At the same time music is much more, something abstract or even metaphysical. You are asking in fact whether this something beyond is enough and my answer is no. This is a very direct answer, but not so radical if you realise the above statements do not contradict but complement each other. Now, imagine you would want to explain what music is to someone that has never heard it before. (This sentence says it all btw.) What would you do? Show him/her the score of "in C", the source code of your program or several midi file dumps? Now, let's assume you've tried to explain what music is without playing it. Do you think the person would know what music really is? Is it possible without the listening experience? Michał From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 16 18:35:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2091D183585; Fri, 16 May 2014 18:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 13:34:54 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Boomerang survey - please respond Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 18:35:44 +0000 (UTC) 2 tap record & play with stacking active While the Rang=99 III can go directly from recording a loop to playing w= ith stacking active, it is currently a=20 3 tap process involving one of the Bonus Buttons. It goes like this: Tap loop button =96 recording starts Tap Bonus button to select Stack =96 Stack light blinks Tap loop button =96 recording concludes, playback begins and Stacking is = active Several customers have requested a more streamlined approach, so I=92m g= oing to outline a few methods and ask=20 that y=92all let me know which is the most appealing. 1) Press a loop button to begin recording=85 if the button is held down f= or 1 second then released, the second=20 tap of that loop button will conclude recording and begin playback with S= tack active. If a loop button is=20 tapped and quickly released, the second tap will conclude recording and b= egin playback without Stacking; this=20 is identical to the current behavior. 2) Rather than being the permanent behavior of the III, number 1 would be= an Optional Behavior that the user=20 can turn on and off. 3) Tap a loop button to begin recording; the second tap will conclude rec= ording and begin playback with Stack=20 active. With this design, holding the loop button down does nothing. This= will definitely be an Optional=20 Behavior that the user can turn on and off. 4) We could change the Stack behavior so that the following would occur. = Tap a loop button to begin recording;=20 tap Stack (Bonus button) to conclude recording and begin playback with St= ack active. Tapping the loop button a=20 second time would conclude recording and begin playback without Stacking.= This will definitely be an Optional=20 Behavior that the user can turn on and off. NOTE =96 for this to work well, one Bonus button would have to be assigne= d to Stack only. It couldn=92t rigger two=20 functions as the Bonus buttons normally do. --=20 Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 16 23:21:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32C54183584; Fri, 16 May 2014 23:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 24.61.87.252 X-Authenticated-UID: emile@foryourhead.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2EA9F1C0-98E4-4D2F-BAE4-391AE5F7D203" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Videos posted to You Tube From: Emile Tobenfeld Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 19:20:27 -0400 Cc: Emile Tobenfeld , eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com X-Apple-Mail-Stationery: 84CFB22B-607A-426D-9F84-05F520B1515B Message-Id: To: DrTVideo@egroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Resent-Message-ID: <48cLEC.A.CsH.u1pdTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 23:21:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_2EA9F1C0-98E4-4D2F-BAE4-391AE5F7D203 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I posted two new videos to You Tube -- they can be seen at = http://youtu.be/rhmY9OEEONc and http://youtu.be/QTaDGiYTfPQ "Don't Look at Me That Way" and "By Ones and Twos" were recorded on May = 10th at the fifth of my "Light into Motion" events, which are held at = Outpost 186, near Inman Square in Cambridge Mass.These events combine = improvised video, music, movement, and sometimes spoken word. The = collective personnel for this performance were: Doctor T - Video and Movement Eric Crawley -- Harpejji and Electronics Cullan Powers -- Movement Tracy Simonelli -- movement Christy Choi --- Movement Reme Gold --- Movement Leslie Lawrence --- Movement Combining this many creative elements in the intimate space of Outpost = 186 has been really exciting and fine for all of the artists. The next = event in the series is on June 15 and will feature my video, the amazing = improvised poetry of Karen Klein, music by Eric Crawley and Tim = Mungenast, spoken word and movement by Anne Tolbert, and other dancers = t.b.a. "Don't Look at Me That Way" is an unstructured improvisation and gets = its title from the intense facial expressions of the dancers. Dancers in = order of appearance -- Leslie, Reme, Cullan. =20 "By Ones and Twos" is a structured improvisation alternating between = solos and duets. Dancers in order of appearance -- Tracy, Reme, Christy, = Cullan, Leslie. -- Emile When the going gets tough, the tough go dancing. My photography can be viewed at = http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld --Apple-Mail=_2EA9F1C0-98E4-4D2F-BAE4-391AE5F7D203 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Doctor T and The OUTPOST Band - June 8
I posted two new = videos to You Tube -- they can be seen at http://youtu.be/rhmY9OEEONc = and http://youtu.be/QTaDGiYTfPQ

"Don't Look at Me That Way" = and "By Ones and Twos" were recorded on May 10th at the fifth of my = "Light into Motion" events, which are held at Outpost 186, near = Inman Square in Cambridge Mass.These events combine = improvised video, music, movement, and sometimes  spoken = word. The collective personnel for this = performance  were:

Doctor T - Video and = Movement
Eric Crawley  -- Harpejji and = Electronics
Cullan Powers -- Movement
Tracy Simonelli -- = movement
Christy Choi  --- Movement
Reme = Gold  --- Movement
Leslie Lawrence  --- = Movement

Combining this many creative elements in the intimate = space of Outpost 186 has been really exciting and fine for all = of the artists. The next event in the series is on June 15 and will = feature my video, the amazing improvised poetry of Karen Klein, = music by Eric Crawley and Tim Mungenast, spoken word and movement by = Anne Tolbert, and other dancers t.b.a.

"Don't Look at Me = That Way" is an unstructured improvisation and gets its title from the = intense facial expressions of the dancers. Dancers in order of = appearance -- Leslie, Reme, Cullan.  

 "By Ones = and Twos" is a structured improvisation alternating between solos and = duets. Dancers in order of appearance -- Tracy, Reme, Christy, = Cullan, Leslie.


-- Emile

When the going gets tough, the tough go dancing.

My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld=



= --Apple-Mail=_2EA9F1C0-98E4-4D2F-BAE4-391AE5F7D203-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 17 09:48:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B464F183584; Sat, 17 May 2014 09:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1400320074; bh=Sn9qYv+k4viE+5g08HhlTDsJCcL9PLIvOfuHuSelyW8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=mWkL7WvjIIqJNMkWgNS4fM/suz97M1SCANRh3GVv/im8dWokctFhBGZFerNe2Qi5bhFP2Lyhv+ZEr62bsqdzYJJlYoqlvdSl4zKPv9LifaJf+uty2dtbp0/dCW85PBdGC5onLS8zN2v0RJe4gJTXksXT4Ckbv+VUG2/5khjRO3A= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 109974.58752.bm@smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 22RCyGkVM1l1d53jHUD3m2AzDp1ityMiTTAJ1RZBKPH7h0l B9WgUIbl80P27ndc0WiBgp1s2BvVi3ypcu743D1NaHzXB_f.riwWqlONtsoT 6HdY4xzL1dj2U9PwKvQ3g8fkqynTAZiWtn4UwL4oNaSjBQIRssMC7nkA4Rw. 4baCSqj9aGvJzgx_QSKzDLABW9imszl9w.ezkzT.Yha6cEhX1lpPh8GrAwwK CXvzlmAjZGMF8jo.B8kgy.NceIOjOIJdp3iWp9LelzkLZmXa6Ygd6KGnLsQi 1atUOuvBCNTjlR_zz5DFmZ7c.50ToPaHnTuoweYuYMgMcy5GMnCDx7fMZR0b O6xW1Xfa.Q3nnBdeTpUkVYHxwa.wF8Zn89nuX0.mLiH0RkNJBMxsoM7NoC1p 34dCf6dTnHnyv8attJtqmnEkfgPZyHHunQb7dGx4RAcRdd5DGDuT0jgdwdnA 21xdG6Xu3HwIdQ6y5_yF0zm0KQYEvSXw5nplVjoGVa5r4tBRp3BwiR19Bx29 GKxJILU0.H5GsAh7pkStSmwycsS6sNQrldzToSeimuvatFBRs2ECNsZejn0_ ZN57TEK6R2QiwQwaxzQazzLrdEeNkI0cb4lvoW56HTj.kekNgvJ5X_lOeOZu 9wwrIYtm6wDTwKpGUAfcW0jJWrRIN0FQlmQGVPPb8q7kXbTsCEUETIw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: yRBEy4.swBCKSazU852c19FMfIqgzJ9luWs- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.0.1.3] (stevebassbird@108.70.210.204 with xymcookie [216.39.61.254]) by smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2014 02:47:54 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> From: Steve U Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> Message-Id: <06D2A077-788F-4593-99DD-671320C308A1@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 02:47:50 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: <2ZmSeC.A.4aF.wBzdTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 09:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Option 1 sounds good to me!=20 Thanks for continually working on this kind if stuff Mike!=20 Also, I hope I'm not being presumptuous by throwing this out there, but anot= her feature I'd love is to be able to fade only one track, not all of them, a= s fade does now. A workaround I do now is to turn the decay up a bit and st= art stacking on the track I want to fade. Of course, the main draw back of t= his is that I have to not play anything while the track is slowly replaced w= ith silence. =20 Any how, really glad you are working on the instant stacking feature, thanks= again! Steve Uccello www.steveuccello.com > On May 16, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Mike wrote: >=20 > 2 tap record & play with stacking active >=20 > While the Rang=E2=84=A2 III can go directly from recording a loop to pl= aying with stacking active, it is currently a 3 tap process involving one of= the Bonus Buttons. It goes like this: > Tap loop button =E2=80=93 recording starts > Tap Bonus button to select Stack =E2=80=93 Stack light blinks > Tap loop button =E2=80=93 recording concludes, playback begins and Stackin= g is active >=20 > Several customers have requested a more streamlined approach, so I=E2=80= =99m going to outline a few methods and ask that y=E2=80=99all let me know w= hich is the most appealing. >=20 > 1) Press a loop button to begin recording=E2=80=A6 if the button is held d= own for 1 second then released, the second tap of that loop button will conc= lude recording and begin playback with Stack active. If a loop button is tap= ped and quickly released, the second tap will conclude recording and begin p= layback without Stacking; this is identical to the current behavior. >=20 > 2) Rather than being the permanent behavior of the III, number 1 would be a= n Optional Behavior that the user can turn on and off. >=20 > 3) Tap a loop button to begin recording; the second tap will conclude reco= rding and begin playback with Stack active. With this design, holding the lo= op button down does nothing. This will definitely be an Optional Behavior th= at the user can turn on and off. >=20 > 4) We could change the Stack behavior so that the following would occur. T= ap a loop button to begin recording; tap Stack (Bonus button) to conclude re= cording and begin playback with Stack active. Tapping the loop button a seco= nd time would conclude recording and begin playback without Stacking. This w= ill definitely be an Optional Behavior that the user can turn on and off. > NOTE =E2=80=93 for this to work well, one Bonus button would have to be as= signed to Stack only. It couldn=E2=80=99t rigger two functions as the Bonus b= uttons normally do. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >=20 > ---------- >=20 > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." >=20 > ---------- >=20 > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax >=20 > http://www.boomerangmusic.com >=20 > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 >=20 > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 17 18:02:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD91C183585; Sat, 17 May 2014 18:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 11:02:12 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: <5YfIwD.A.PnB.TR6dTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 18:02:59 +0000 (UTC) On May 16, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Mike wrote: > 2 tap record & play with stacking active >=20 > While the Rang=99 III can go directly from recording a loop to = playing with stacking active, it is currently a 3 tap process involving = one of the Bonus Buttons. It goes like this: > Tap loop button =96 recording starts > Tap Bonus button to select Stack =96 Stack light blinks > Tap loop button =96 recording concludes, playback begins and Stacking = is active >=20 > Several customers have requested a more streamlined approach, so = I=92m going to outline a few methods and ask that y=92all let me know = which is the most appealing. >=20 > 1) Press a loop button to begin recording=85 if the button is held = down for 1 second then released, the second tap of that loop button will = conclude recording and begin playback with Stack active. If a loop = button is tapped and quickly released, the second tap will conclude = recording and begin playback without Stacking; this is identical to the = current behavior. This could certainly work from the standpoint that holding the button at = the beginning of recording currently doesn=92t mean anything. (At least = I don=92t think it does.) > 2) Rather than being the permanent behavior of the III, number 1 would = be an Optional Behavior that the user can turn on and off. Since the hold was meaningless before, I don=92t see that the new = behavior would need to be optional. > 3) Tap a loop button to begin recording; the second tap will conclude = recording and begin playback with Stack active. With this design, = holding the loop button down does nothing. This will definitely be an = Optional Behavior that the user can turn on and off. So, this is basically a switch to make it work in a = Rec->Stack->Play->Stop->Play mode? While I like the ability to go into = stacking, it seems like it makes the switch more complicated given that = after the first pass it doesn=92t provide anyway to stack. > 4) We could change the Stack behavior so that the following would = occur. Tap a loop button to begin recording; tap Stack (Bonus button) to = conclude recording and begin playback with Stack active. Tapping the = loop button a second time would conclude recording and begin playback = without Stacking. This will definitely be an Optional Behavior that the = user can turn on and off. > NOTE =96 for this to work well, one Bonus button would have to be = assigned to Stack only. It couldn=92t rigger two functions as the Bonus = buttons normally do. This would be good to do no matter what because I=92m not clear that = hitting stack while in record is otherwise useful. I assume this would = also work with the dedicated stack button on the SideCar. (If it already = works with the dedicated button on the SideCar that may up the pressure = for me to create the pedal board space to accommodate a SideCar.) I=92m going to put forward one other option that would keep the current = feel of the Boomerang as largely a phrase looper =97 i.e., it=92s more = about starting and stopping phrases than it is about mutating them = though it doesn=92t stop one from mutating them. This feel stems from = the fact that the operation it makes particularly easy is starting and = stopping loops and that=92s good for many uses. There are two reasons = that I=92m aware of to go from Record into Stack. One of them is to set = up an essentially continuous stack =97 generally with decay =97 = situation in which the loop is being modified over and over again. = Frippertronics would be an early example. Depending on where decay is = set, this can create a lot of evolution or simply a wall of sound. The = other reason is simply to smooth the loop boundary when there are things = like delay trails to deal with. Here one wants a bit of overlap with no = decay and the desired sequence looks something like: Record->Stack->Play = with the Stack to Play transition coming fairly soon after the Record to = Stack transition. Stacking is transitory. To support this second use = case, I would recommend implementing: Press: Record Release: (nothing or option 1 from above) Press: Stack (no decay) Release: Play This could be an optional behavior but I don=92t know that it needs to = be since the only things it interferes with relative to the existing = behavior are: You will always get a little bit of stack overlap but this = will be very brief unless you tended to hold the button down at the end = of recording. Still making this all optional might avoid some squawking. The reason I would argue this is better than just using option 1 to = handle the delay trails overlap issue is that option 1 requires: Hold to = start recording, worry about whether you=92ve held long enough while = playing, release, tap to go to stack, and tap again to go to play. In = contrast, this require: Tap to start recording, press to end the loop, = release when you=92ve captured enough trails. It does, however, combine nicely with option 1 to thereby provide ways = to handle the two use cases for going straight into stack that I = outlined above. Mark P.S. Having recently posted an analysis of the Ditto X2 to the Facebook = group, I will note that addressing this issue =97 particularly doing = something like what I=92ve outlined above =97 would go a long way toward = =93perfecting=94 the Boomerang III in my opinion. The one other big = issue for me is that I want an option when working in any of the sync = modes to have loop lengths synced without having to sync the point at = which recording starts. For example, if I record a base cycle into loop = 3 and then want to record a possibly longer layer into one of the other = loops, then I want to be able to start recording immediately without = having to wait for loop 3 to come back around. The loop logic just needs = to know that I started recording partway through the loop. Start and/or = stop might still be synced to loop 3=92s cycle boundaries =97 I haven=92t = worked through that as deeply =97 but if the natural point to begin the = layer doesn=92t come on the downbeat, I should be able to do that.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 17 18:35:16 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54C5C183582; Sat, 17 May 2014 18:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 705225.9542.bm@omp1023.mail.ir2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1400351676; bh=/6LIvK8w1JF8u9SoixzE5VdkrNXz5aBkrQCN/lTimlo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UXvh4d7Et9oEBWXqGd243DXtlij+M80x4tCeWWKTh4inVlWfRAOdH5zineAF9JYn1ZCXEtSkpvCCqWkSuaKr7Te8nvmKnvZGTXCMuNyPyxnBPGML7IDuLSwC412v0AYQcUPFUQ+7Yp3g8nGsPCGXQoGYu4YX1GzolKBpsw60n+c= X-YMail-OSG: 14vVoKcVM1kODjutB2sz9Zp_DYZtvLwQH8oJUPY9ZkpFMkG w85S9.c4GgSHsgRJWAg2i6Fh.FwvHZO_7E_1Cq1WrSMDzQVxhTcbivvvsXcq GWFSw1Ifbvq9XrGekQxCbgibpJExmjAX8m_E5jqNrX1pKBCLNC0b4qCnWZM5 F85xT0NyS48OCrie6ywmAQEVzjWeRRQIpfFesSwdIwegUQ6UPL0rtazbue9_ QOx3r0QNEeoSYDvgfKWhyMm40b0xbSSA4cduon4MP4O7LWSPJrWqCrS8Lu0M lTE9HYui9O4J7GOCQrl2owcLBZdnfZGB2rUqQlx2XNMvPZWdB_EHfcKJSGCr bhilX1B7gGa92h8nFPS9ub1c9fmgojp_96WOOaaFBLFeNWhvJCkLGPyZUfV_ dY_fQrN6zmuDhMpzdwP2kYAo30wtKqhzVg7S2BZ5hWie83Mt2lqFX3cTLrbS EEtLBkEyJ7Uridcom14e2zCaHPtGBIygNTAXGBlvoZAzaxkKDtIHSBGrJGLT nuJ77_bCcrLX37BcihfD2W5Prt5QPgf9brU0ANNJoJvfXCExNkF1wtiw6Ec9 bj7PXG3VT4bHgjxkHsNMZyZjDCt48EXfaOX1YLTVT6WIWDjGxt3SiaxNq0b7 8y9Zf3q7ds4l3e1w6sF54IqsdRPIo2jCED2UdAHwgMwoGxwQ4khcNP3jNKIM UbuPJpznBCoTmubWwgznjYv.sqgy4wJ_B3i6a08VFGg3DiPC5qMTcd7GGKw6 UOo_HAUU- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,TG9vcGVycyBhbmQgbG9vcGV0cwpoZXJlIHlvdSBoYXZlIHRoZSBlbGVtZW50cyBvZiB0aGUgY2FtcGFpZ24gdG8gYnJpbmcgYmFjayBzb21lIHNvdWwgaW4gYXJ0IGFuZCBtdXNpYyBhdCB0aGUgRnVua2hhdXM6CgoKaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cueW91dHViZS5jb20vd2F0Y2g_dj1FbVp2a0pIckRISQoKd3d3Lm11bmQtcHJvZHVjdGlvbi5jb20KCmh0dHA6Ly9ibG9nLm11bmQtcHJvZHVjdGlvbi5jb20KCgpUaGUgYmxvZyBhbmQgd2ViIHNpdGUgbmVlZCB0byBiZSB1cGRhdGVkIHdpdGggZWxlbWVudHMgc3VwcG9ydGkBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.188.663 Message-ID: <1400351676.49857.YahooMailNeo@web171702.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 19:34:36 +0100 (BST) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: blatent plug To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-494387269-1968360471-1400351676=:49857" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 18:35:16 +0000 (UTC) ---494387269-1968360471-1400351676=:49857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loopers and loopets=0Ahere you have the elements of the campaign to bring b= ack some soul in art and music at the Funkhaus:=0A=0A=0Ahttps://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DEmZvkJHrDHI=0A=0Awww.mund-production.com=0A=0Ahttp://blog.mu= nd-production.com=0A=0A=0AThe blog and web site need to be updated with ele= ments supporting the campaign. 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---494387269-1968360471-1400351676=:49857-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 17 18:59:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 384B7183581; Sat, 17 May 2014 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <06D2A077-788F-4593-99DD-671320C308A1@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 11:58:52 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9E8D4EDA-34DE-4336-B8F6-3C18BE71EC43@grubmah.com> References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <06D2A077-788F-4593-99DD-671320C308A1@yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC) On May 17, 2014, at 2:47 AM, Steve U wrote: > Any how, really glad you are working on the instant stacking feature, = thanks again! Yes, thank you! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 18 10:01:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 061F4183581; Sun, 18 May 2014 10:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5219 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Sun, 18 May 2014 10:01:02 UTC Message-ID: <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 09:33:19 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1576-7.5.0.1017-20700.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--0.273-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--0.273-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: +c13yJDs90166iJzGY2JcZ21GZGE81yG/8CuA+b/YYR+YesuCgkiXJ5c HNoG2gBeoI+rYlPk5CaBRwAlrFOK9QOwMDe0+ff/4t2mucDkRBFt9UVWhqbRIWtEzrC9eANpyRS EpZz6DA8ZGGuCG553NWFlncE6+J8aj2hRzH1UwuC9oxGQAU8pjWrz/G/ZSbVq+gtHj7OwNO1YN8 MGeZojK0kH7hMR7M+US/X+VK/fklucwtUWwwglN/Pyvffcmk8llDz5adY0Nd5gnbgp/U1Z1tm5P 28axfs7Vp9dwRjfkbWJipmYVVMqgluiKFt7/vYEor/sAyudYPghRL+eMRd+nQUn0Ye0cSRIwL6S xPpr1/I= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 10:01:03 +0000 (UTC) I'm quite surprised to see this discussed, a bit like re-inventing the wheel. Any other sensible loop device with more than one button has the option to end a recording with a choice of switches which give the option to go smoothly into overdub, or to go to PLayback. What on earth is wrong about "End Recording with Stack button...go straight into stack"? andy Mark Hamburg wrote: > On May 16, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Mike wrote: > >> 2 tap record & play with stacking active >> >> While the Rang™ III can go directly from recording a loop to playing with stacking active, it is currently a 3 tap process involving one of the Bonus Buttons. It goes like this: >> Tap loop button – recording starts >> Tap Bonus button to select Stack – Stack light blinks >> Tap loop button – recording concludes, playback begins and Stacking is active >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 18 15:13:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B30AD183588; Sun, 18 May 2014 15:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond Message-Id: <7ED9B507-2AF8-4B78-8D85-B21DADBDCA5D@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 08:12:26 -0700 References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D201) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 15:13:10 +0000 (UTC) The Boomerang III (absent the SideCar) doesn't have a dedicated stack button= . Stack is one of the functions you can assign to the dual (tap v hold) butt= ons. So, at button press time the Boomerang III might not know whether the l= oop was being closed or not. Mark > On May 18, 2014, at 1:33 AM, andy butler wrote: >=20 >=20 > I'm quite surprised to see this discussed, a bit like re-inventing the whe= el. >=20 > Any other sensible loop device with more than one button has the option to= end > a recording with a choice of switches which give the option to go smoothly= > into overdub, or to go to PLayback. >=20 > What on earth is wrong about "End Recording with Stack button...go straigh= t into stack"? >=20 >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 > Mark Hamburg wrote: >>> On May 16, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Mike wrote: >>> 2 tap record & play with stacking active >>>=20 >>> While the Rang=E2=84=A2 III can go directly from recording a loop to p= laying with stacking active, it is currently a 3 tap process involving one o= f the Bonus Buttons. It goes like this: >>> Tap loop button =E2=80=93 recording starts >>> Tap Bonus button to select Stack =E2=80=93 Stack light blinks >>> Tap loop button =E2=80=93 recording concludes, playback begins and Stack= ing is active >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 19 17:40:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F077183586; Mon, 19 May 2014 17:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 709 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Mon, 19 May 2014 17:40:45 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=fhppBhPbi2jpjeyZc4SJFAbIa4WfTHeZVDqyO8B4EJQVjAk1+7nIb69aJFns0lL+; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <7269394.1400520492844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 12:28:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd5e9407d8fc8b1d4dae45f8f685565c67202110556960d0e37350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 17:40:45 +0000 (UTC) >The one other big issue for me is that I want an option when working in an= y of the sync modes to >have loop lengths synced without having to sync the= point at which recording starts. For >example, if I record a base cycle in= to loop 3 and then want to record a possibly longer layer >into one of the = other loops, then I want to be able to start recording immediately without = >having to wait for loop 3 to come back around. The loop logic just needs t= o know that I started >recording partway through the loop. Start and/or sto= p might still be synced to loop 3=E2=80=99s cycle >boundaries =E2=80=94 I h= aven=E2=80=99t worked through that as deeply =E2=80=94 but if the natural p= oint to begin the >layer doesn=E2=80=99t come on the downbeat, I should be = able to do that. If you plan to stop and restart loops created like this I think there could= be problems since the system doesn't know your musical intentions. Suppose= you had a loop 3 and another loop with a length of multiple loop 3's. Then= you start and end the recording of another loop at some arbitrary point re= lative to the first two loops. This would seem fine as long as you never st= opped any of the loops. But if you did stop some or all of them how would t= he system know where to start them again? There may be an answer to that but in the meantime here are a couple of wor= karounds that might help: 1- Begin recording loop 3. End loop 3 by pressing loop 1. End recording of loop 1 and begin recording loop 2 by pressing loop 2. At the next restart of loop 3 loop 1 will begin playing back and loop 2 = will be recording. 2- Use a MIDI clock and the "Free" style. I think this would allow you to s= tart/end recording or playback of up to 4 loops at the nearest 1/4 note reg= ardless of the loop lengths. I need to try this to be sure but I think it m= ight work. Obviously the player would then be responsible for restarting st= opped loops at the appropriate times. G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 19 18:13:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16EE9183585; Mon, 19 May 2014 18:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjkDAI5IelNV0r1w/2dsb2JhbAANTIcYvgyDDgMCAYEsgxkBAQEBAxgLFUARCxgCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMIAQG1MnekQxeBKo0tFoJfgUsEsCw X-IPAS-Result: AjkDAI5IelNV0r1w/2dsb2JhbAANTIcYvgyDDgMCAYEsgxkBAQEBAxgLFUARCxgCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMIAQG1MnekQxeBKo0tFoJfgUsEsCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,868,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="466380690" Message-ID: <537A49F2.7080807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 19:14:10 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <7ED9B507-2AF8-4B78-8D85-B21DADBDCA5D@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <7ED9B507-2AF8-4B78-8D85-B21DADBDCA5D@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 18:13:34 +0000 (UTC) On 18/05/2014 16:12, Mark Hamburg wrote: > The Boomerang III (absent the SideCar) doesn't have a dedicated stack button. Stack is one of the > > functions you can assign to the dual (tap v hold) buttons. So, at button press time the Boomerang > > III might not know whether the loop was being closed or not. > > Mark Well maybe that's not such a problem. With the factory default set up tap Yellow = erase loop hold yellow = stack In that case just need to end the recording and and start stacking as soon as the Yellow is pushed down. Then when switch is released quickly, do erase, otherwise do nothing. If you're going to erase a loop it hardly matters if you did a short overdub you're never going to hear. Depending on how functions can be assigned to the Bonus buttons ( I didn't fully review) there's no doubt more to work out, but in general there's many cases that a shortpress function can be started right away on the downpress. In "Rang World" it does seem that the first choice would be to hit "Stack" before Recording so that ending the rec took you into stack. ...but the Erase functionality seems to have already grabbed the button for that. hope that's useful andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 19 18:51:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A25A18357C; Mon, 19 May 2014 18:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 431 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Mon, 19 May 2014 18:51:11 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Mark Hamburg X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <7269394.1400520492844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 11:43:13 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8F86EA1C-2355-4FEF-A7F4-D167E97E2504@grubmah.com> References: <7269394.1400520492844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To: Grant Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 18:51:11 +0000 (UTC) On May 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Grant wrote: >> The one other big issue for me is that I want an option when working in a= ny of the sync modes to >have loop lengths synced without having to sync the= point at which recording starts. For >example, if I record a base cycle int= o loop 3 and then want to record a possibly longer layer >into one of the ot= her loops, then I want to be able to start recording immediately without >ha= ving to wait for loop 3 to come back around. The loop logic just needs to kn= ow that I started >recording partway through the loop. Start and/or stop mig= ht still be synced to loop 3=E2=80=99s cycle >boundaries =E2=80=94 I haven=E2= =80=99t worked through that as deeply =E2=80=94 but if the natural point to b= egin the >layer doesn=E2=80=99t come on the downbeat, I should be able to do= that. >=20 > If you plan to stop and restart loops created like this I think there coul= d be problems since the system doesn't know your musical intentions. Suppose= you had a loop 3 and another loop with a length of multiple loop 3's. Then y= ou start and end the recording of another loop at some arbitrary point relat= ive to the first two loops. This would seem fine as long as you never stoppe= d any of the loops. But if you did stop some or all of them how would the sy= stem know where to start them again? >=20 > There may be an answer to that but in the meantime here are a couple of wo= rkarounds that might help: >=20 > 1- Begin recording loop 3. > End loop 3 by pressing loop 1. > End recording of loop 1 and begin recording loop 2 by pressing loop 2. > At the next restart of loop 3 loop 1 will begin playing back and loop 2 w= ill be recording. >=20 > 2- Use a MIDI clock and the "Free" style. I think this would allow you to s= tart/end recording or playback of up to 4 loops at the nearest 1/4 note rega= rdless of the loop lengths. I need to try this to be sure but I think it mig= ht work. Obviously the player would then be responsible for restarting stopp= ed loops at the appropriate times. This only applies to the cases where we're synchronizing to loop 3 and hence= it works just like it does now with loop 3 defining the cycle boundaries. T= his is just a call to allow one to start recording a synced loop at any time= during the cycle just as one can start stacking at any time during the cycl= e. One implementation for this would be to record the loop as normal but round t= he length to a multiple of loop 3 and store an offset from the start of the r= ecorded loop to the start of loop 3. That said, there are interesting questions about how to handle start and sto= p. Let's assume that the loops are loop 3 (master) and loop 1 (synced but sk= ewed start). If one loop is playing and the other isn't, then starting the n= on-playing loop preserves the relative skew between the loops and probably w= aits for the recorded cycle boundary for the loop being started (if we don't= just start immediately). If neither loop is playing, then start should =E2=80= =94 absent any other sync constraints =E2=80=94 start the desired loop immed= iately at the point where recording was initiated. So, if loop 1 has a littl= e bit of a lead in, then we hear that lead in. Stop similarly can either be i= nstantaneous or can wait for the cycle boundary of the loop being stopped as= appropriate. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 19 19:20:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0291183582; Mon, 19 May 2014 19:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <537A5937.5010609@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:19:19 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #893 for May 15, 2014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <75uhKB.A.nPE.olleTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 19:20:08 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/140508.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #893 May 15, 2014. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Adventures in Sound Episode 194" on electro- music media. I also played music by AirSculpture, appearing at the Asheville electro-music festival (Asheville, NC) on May 16 and at The Gatherings Concert Series (Philadelphia, PA) on May 17. Modulator ESP: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may Events Page: http://soundscapes.us/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) deeperNET Quantum Impossible Landscapes (Spotted Teleportation Peccary) Gert Emmens and Signs Signs (EH) Ruud Heij VA [Sparks, Stack, Twilight Greeting Asheville electro-music 2014 and Waltzer] (electro-music media) Fanger and Frankfurter Allee Analog Overdose 5 (Manikin) Schonwalder VA [AirSculpture] Upstate Asheville electro-music 2014 (electro-music media) Placement Pieces from a Life Pieces from a Life (Lime Green Yellow Recording Co.) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Modulator ESP Waving at Zero Adventures in Sound 194 (electro-music media) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Adventures in Sound Episode 196" on electro-music media. WDIY Announcement:http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2014-05-25 Bill ========================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. 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Looks like a big roland loopstation in the publi= city photo.=A0 http://www.richmix.org.uk/whats-on/event/rough-guide-live-kr= ar-collective-ethiopia-kristi-stassinopoulou-and-stathis-kalyvioti-greece-j= yotsna-srikanth-india/ . Is that responsible for the reversed sounds or so= me other FX?=0A=0A=A0Any other information on his setup appreciated.=0A=0AE= MC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 20 08:18:33 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7E5F183585; Tue, 20 May 2014 08:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApQBAAUPe1NV0rpY/2dsb2JhbAANTIcYwScBgS2DGQEBAQEDGAsVQAEMBAsRBAEBAQICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgE9CAYNAQUCAQG1G3ekaBeBKo0kBwaCb4FLAQOwNg X-IPAS-Result: ApQBAAUPe1NV0rpY/2dsb2JhbAANTIcYwScBgS2DGQEBAQEDGAsVQAEMBAsRBAEBAQICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgE9CAYNAQUCAQG1G3ekaBeBKo0kBwaCb4FLAQOwNg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,872,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="613261132" Message-ID: <537B0FFD.7020600@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 09:19:09 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <29108637.1400533938799.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <29108637.1400533938799.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 08:18:33 +0000 (UTC) On 19/05/2014 22:12, Grant wrote: > Yes, but I think the problem may be relative to what? Relative to the start point of the master loop. (that's what we are talking about here, parallel loops) The reason there's users asking for this feature is because they are used to it being included on other devices. Point one is that to wait for a loop boundary before record starts is un-musical. To allow a synced loop to be recorded starting at an arbitrary point is a basic feature. You're quite right that this then creates more problems, which maybe the user did not anticipate, generally a manufacturer follows the path of fixing the issues that arise until the users stop complaining. (if they listen to users) afaik only the EDP goes as far as to include a Re-Align function so that a synced loop that has been de-synced with Reverse(or whatever) can be put back into it's original alignment with whatever it was synced to. Generally you'd expect that if a master loop(or other sync source) was running and you started a loop that had been recorded synced it would be perfectly in time. andy > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: andy butler >> Sent: May 19, 2014 1:34 PM >> To: Grant >> Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond >> >> >> >> On 19/05/2014 18:28, Grant wrote: >> >>> But if you did stop some or all of them how would the system know where to start them again? >> >> store an offset value >> >> >> >> andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 20 21:59:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC648183582; Tue, 20 May 2014 21:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ubBXsQ7uTL10mguG44WiTyn1zz2g82s/EKwTjVq9c6c=; b=znQ1J3xuGhEPlQHCvricGGMdsBAhDBjXfSfmNhvau7706H9ABCFvCBcBzvqpKHpOTu S7HiQ0lmPv9n0iDlaA6sVVh3iKur/YQYGEYiBipQ/JWTLOoQHhVVyFzfQ8173l5XYsET AfNRYOH6QuAV2oWbWs0Cg2/WxkjEvN47tKVIZ4pc0CQYWgqCd2hHQGiR2TF5Zq+Vf1Iu hccm1w0QDMzGB877+v6lZK3AmSfUtlT/vqrq1qQDR8z0DObNBh+FHNJVnklQX2m2PeMd a/Ng+eeAjmG/WsOTlDNd6G83OZEaRREUGS5OTiYDpnGS4yxAD3hKqKJ11byzeNfdhA1J +EOA== X-Received: by 10.140.18.180 with SMTP id 49mr60587183qgf.105.1400623109676; Tue, 20 May 2014 14:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Jason Fistner In-Reply-To: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 17:58:28 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <26688EBA-95B1-4622-9988-9F8845A41B63@gmail.com> References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 21:59:11 +0000 (UTC) I=92m so excited that Mike et al. are finally considering this!!!! In sum: Method #3 More detailed: Let=92s first look at some reasons for wanting to enter [STACK/ OVERDUB = MODE] mode immediately at [LOOP END]: a) Flow - as us loopers know, it=92s crucial to keep things moving and changing=97= especially at the beginning! most people do not have our tolerance for = repetition.=20 b) Signal Smoothness - hard cuts on delay and reverb trails reveal the seams and can take a = listener out of it c) Volume/ dynamics smoothness - sometimes by the end of the loop, especially in long loops, the volume = of what is being played at the end doesn=92t match what it was at the = start (inadvertently, by some psychological magic :D ). going right into = [STACK] mode can smooth this out. So there are some real good reasons for entering [STACK MODE] at [LOOP = END], which I will call [AUTO-STACK] henceforth. [AUTO-STACK] is currently possible, but the [STACK BUTTON] must be = pressed before [LOOP END].=20 This sounds easy in writing, and maybe it is easy for some, but I have = terribly difficult time accomplishing this.=20 My brain is focused on the music. Many times I don=92t even know what = I=92m about to play beyond the initial note or chord.=20 I consistently forget to hit [STACK] and even when I do remember, having = to move my foot in some awkward, balancing act, tap dance often leads to = screwing up the loop, either musically or temporally.=20 And the initial loop is the most critical=97 musically and temporally.=20= So I support Method #3 I think [AUTO-STACK] should be a 2-tap operation on the same button so = that the foot can remain in the same location.=20 And there should not be a hold function because some users (read: me :D) = may wish to keep the foot down in-place until ready for the 2nd tap (a = la drummers on the kick drum). It=92s the least physical and mental effort, which is the current = problem. Thanks all, -Jason On May 16, 2014, at 14:34, Mike wrote: > 2 tap record & play with stacking active >=20 > While the Rang=99 III can go directly from recording a loop to = playing with stacking active, it is currently a 3 tap process involving = one of the Bonus Buttons. It goes like this: > Tap loop button =96 recording starts > Tap Bonus button to select Stack =96 Stack light blinks > Tap loop button =96 recording concludes, playback begins and Stacking = is active >=20 > Several customers have requested a more streamlined approach, so = I=92m going to outline a few methods and ask that y=92all let me know = which is the most appealing. >=20 > 1) Press a loop button to begin recording=85 if the button is held = down for 1 second then released, the second tap of that loop button will = conclude recording and begin playback with Stack active. If a loop = button is tapped and quickly released, the second tap will conclude = recording and begin playback without Stacking; this is identical to the = current behavior. >=20 > 2) Rather than being the permanent behavior of the III, number 1 would = be an Optional Behavior that the user can turn on and off. >=20 > 3) Tap a loop button to begin recording; the second tap will conclude = recording and begin playback with Stack active. With this design, = holding the loop button down does nothing. This will definitely be an = Optional Behavior that the user can turn on and off. >=20 > 4) We could change the Stack behavior so that the following would = occur. Tap a loop button to begin recording; tap Stack (Bonus button) to = conclude recording and begin playback with Stack active. Tapping the = loop button a second time would conclude recording and begin playback = without Stacking. This will definitely be an Optional Behavior that the = user can turn on and off. > NOTE =96 for this to work well, one Bonus button would have to be = assigned to Stack only. It couldn=92t rigger two functions as the Bonus = buttons normally do. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >=20 > ---------- >=20 > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." >=20 > ---------- >=20 > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax >=20 > http://www.boomerangmusic.com >=20 > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 >=20 > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 05:53:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECB4818357E; Wed, 21 May 2014 05:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <26688EBA-95B1-4622-9988-9F8845A41B63@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:53:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0E07FDB4-2E90-4408-B64D-68267C2FC59D@grubmah.com> References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <26688EBA-95B1-4622-9988-9F8845A41B63@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 05:53:58 +0000 (UTC) On May 20, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jason Fistner wrote: > I=92m so excited that Mike et al. are finally considering this!!!! >=20 > In sum: > Method #3 >=20 > More detailed: > Let=92s first look at some reasons for wanting to enter [STACK/ = OVERDUB MODE] mode immediately at [LOOP END]: > a) Flow > - as us loopers know, it=92s crucial to keep things moving and = changing=97 especially at the beginning! most people do not have our = tolerance for repetition.=20 > b) Signal Smoothness > - hard cuts on delay and reverb trails reveal the seams and can take a = listener out of it > c) Volume/ dynamics smoothness > - sometimes by the end of the loop, especially in long loops, the = volume of what is being played at the end doesn=92t match what it was at = the start (inadvertently, by some psychological magic :D ). going right = into [STACK] mode can smooth this out. I think these correspond to my two categories with (a) being the first =97= I just want to start evolving the loop immediately =97 and (b) and (c) = being the need to get some overlap at the end to smooth out the = transition or deal with delay and reverb trails. I argue that in the = latter case, it=92s actually inconvenient to need to tap a switch again = when done =97 though not nearly as inconvenient as the tap dance the = Boomerang III currently requires to go straight into STACK. I would also = argue that in the first case, you know that=92s what you will be doing. = That=92s why I liked the idea of being able to use a hold at the = beginning of the loop to indicate a desire to go into stack when done = recording =97 i.e., Press (Start Recording) - Hold - Release - Press = (Start Stacking) =97 and a hold at the end of the loop to generate an = overlap without remaining in stack =97 i.e., Press (Start Recording ) - = Release - Press (End Recording, Start Stacking w/o Decay) - Release (End = Stacking, Start Playing). If you hold at both ends of the loop, there = just need to be a decision as to whether the =93go into stack=94 = behavior holds or whether the =93momentary stack=94 behavior holds. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 09:48:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 403CA183586; Wed, 21 May 2014 09:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FLtKeUFNIpL/pDL2C30eawoD6cCWTOcvo86Tu4BRhaQ=; b=x8hXdH5u/kZcNeBEkUVs9EPbCGiQPQ+kAYrcse+u103SRerb7DY4GB6TEMi7nuKqoW w08KSTKb25MqrwgUFS7Pci149ww+VHmnFoXVMNJbDkvylaovrqoaw/kZTaIPdHu1JM1Y kQV/+ut3EchK5LXL8tfWzZk0KOGtPpvinOCSJOnka+mbB5r64l1OM0f1M8ntLTfTV6Qa kEiypJ7pgOGjRh5G+QKJ4lGjMBKpAmeQU50DfZJ8J5+MleULwCvAyyJtZr2tCu4CJZOn PkG23Nx0OVs4I+HxgotUp7c9D+dIYmU7yY51+tMv/QMHLU9v829dLajYKKQ03kLy1VLP NDHw== X-Received: by 10.140.34.228 with SMTP id l91mr64722264qgl.85.1400665686140; Wed, 21 May 2014 02:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Jason Fistner In-Reply-To: <0E07FDB4-2E90-4408-B64D-68267C2FC59D@grubmah.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 05:48:03 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <26688EBA-95B1-4622-9988-9F8845A41B63@gmail.com> <0E07FDB4-2E90-4408-B64D-68267C2FC59D@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 09:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Holding [LOOP START] is interesting, but I need the option of having = AUTO STACK as the default. The idea of holding [LOOP END] is also interesting and I picture that as = AUTO STACK with STACK set to MOMENTARY. Minimum requirements for AUTO STACK to be useful to me =97 foot location doesn=92t need to move (excludes Method #4) =97 Bro-sync slaves can [AUTO STACK] by default I have 2 Rangs bro-synced, each with a SideCar. I would like the option = of the SLAVE entering [AUTO STACK], which requires it either being = default-able or a message being broadcasted over bro-sync. I believe we can please everyone, but it would cost 2 toggle spots. There are 4 different combinations which can be accomplished with 2 = toggles: =20 1) Default [LOOP END] behavior ([LOOP START] tap) -Normal or=20 -Auto-stack =97 if MOMENTARY STACK is on, this will stack while [LOOP END] is held = down 2) Alternate [LOOP END] behavior ([LOOP START] hold) -Enabled or=20 -Disabled Holding [LOOP START] will engage the opposite behavior of 1 Toggle #1 seems absolutely necessary to me, and I=92d have it always on = Auto-stack, of course. I=92d prefer toggle #2 Disabled, but I could probably live with it being = fixed at either value. Thanks, -Jason On May 21, 2014, at 1:53, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On May 20, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jason Fistner = wrote: >=20 >> I=92m so excited that Mike et al. are finally considering this!!!! >>=20 >> In sum: >> Method #3 >>=20 >> More detailed: >> Let=92s first look at some reasons for wanting to enter [STACK/ = OVERDUB MODE] mode immediately at [LOOP END]: >> a) Flow >> - as us loopers know, it=92s crucial to keep things moving and = changing=97 especially at the beginning! most people do not have our = tolerance for repetition.=20 >> b) Signal Smoothness >> - hard cuts on delay and reverb trails reveal the seams and can take = a listener out of it >> c) Volume/ dynamics smoothness >> - sometimes by the end of the loop, especially in long loops, the = volume of what is being played at the end doesn=92t match what it was at = the start (inadvertently, by some psychological magic :D ). going right = into [STACK] mode can smooth this out. >=20 > I think these correspond to my two categories with (a) being the first = =97 I just want to start evolving the loop immediately =97 and (b) and = (c) being the need to get some overlap at the end to smooth out the = transition or deal with delay and reverb trails. I argue that in the = latter case, it=92s actually inconvenient to need to tap a switch again = when done =97 though not nearly as inconvenient as the tap dance the = Boomerang III currently requires to go straight into STACK. I would also = argue that in the first case, you know that=92s what you will be doing. = That=92s why I liked the idea of being able to use a hold at the = beginning of the loop to indicate a desire to go into stack when done = recording =97 i.e., Press (Start Recording) - Hold - Release - Press = (Start Stacking) =97 and a hold at the end of the loop to generate an = overlap without remaining in stack =97 i.e., Press (Start Recording ) - = Release - Press (End Recording, Start Stacking w/o Decay) - Release (End = Stacking, Start Playing). If you hold at both ends of the loop, there = just need to be a decision as to whether the =93go into stack=94 = behavior holds or whether the =93momentary stack=94 behavior holds. >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 16:39:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AD8C183581; Wed, 21 May 2014 16:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1124 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Wed, 21 May 2014 16:39:47 UTC Message-ID: <9D2BA52682C74ACAAF49F494BEA5B2F6@ELUS1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> In-Reply-To: Subject: PA Systems Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:10:06 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CF74ED.9A547090" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 X-Authenticated-User: spgoodman@earthlight.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 16:39:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CF74ED.9A547090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks! The time has come after several years of delays, and it's time for me to = get a PA system. Suggestions from you veterans are more than welcome. = Portability is of course an issue, wattage, sound quality. Is not = having RCA-phono outs a problem? This will be integrated with a laptop = system along with an m-audio usb mixer. Thanks so much. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CF74ED.9A547090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The = time has come=20 after several years of delays, and it's time for me to get a PA system.=20 Suggestions from you veterans are more than welcome.  Portability = is of=20 course an issue, wattage, sound quality.  Is not having RCA-phono = outs a=20 problem?  This will be integrated with a laptop system along with = an=20 m-audio usb mixer.  Thanks so = much.
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CF74ED.9A547090-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 17:39:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAF90183583; Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=J3SIqb65ej/V2Y3ga2fcv8idAXe2AOW0aMKyqYdJk14=; b=yb8XiVhqSQT3d0rNgG1oA7M4TwvdrJQolmMeIUp3WHhi/mfuPmgQe8AwDHGZl535IH 7vbi16UcPj8La1WNbgRL2n2RD15o3GV1Khk4LM2rcF0f7d0rwNiDceBwGpy7yLVrNZLW pC/4BjjvcifGxkls6EghrkiQvPpcShLTLGGSfPC2i1JJQKh52JB9n+PYkpD+YmlNs4A9 +WnZwBr171b2pNUJsB3oCDCYCOlJQsi3tPZ7ke297KBi9+/it+Bsqf4eM2jGKSu5/xvY /QCYMALL09pMaZZgLLnlONcHNe++5Y5R6dtAyvw0sLDl/ly1q2XwsWItlgWJsUvox25e zdeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.86.231 with SMTP id w67mr23289130yhe.5.1400693910454; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:38:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9D2BA52682C74ACAAF49F494BEA5B2F6@ELUS1> References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> <9D2BA52682C74ACAAF49F494BEA5B2F6@ELUS1> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 23:08:30 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PA Systems From: Nilesh Trivedi To: Stephen Goodman Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3010e959f8d0f704f9ec7684 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:13 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3010e959f8d0f704f9ec7684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would love some recommendations as well. Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1 system? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Hi Folks! > > The time has come after several years of delays, and it's time for me to > get a PA system. Suggestions from you veterans are more than welcome. > Portability is of course an issue, wattage, sound quality. Is not having > RCA-phono outs a problem? This will be integrated with a laptop system > along with an m-audio usb mixer. Thanks so much. > > --20cf3010e959f8d0f704f9ec7684 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would love some recommendations as well.

Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1 system?


On Wed, May 21, = 2014 at 9:40 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net><= /span> wrote:
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= The time has come=20 after several years of delays, and it's time for me to get a PA system.= =20 Suggestions from you veterans are more than welcome.=A0 Portability is of= =20 course an issue, wattage, sound quality.=A0 Is not having RCA-phono outs a= =20 problem?=A0 This will be integrated with a laptop system along with an=20 m-audio usb mixer.=A0 Thanks so much.
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--20cf3010e959f8d0f704f9ec7684-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 17:43:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A069183582; Wed, 21 May 2014 17:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=04tCJlRCbyXJDWr6k0fn3OXRTiQMQ8egazOmG9QY/Cs=; b=D/Nbl8XXYn+5NQVr4+KXuEMfB01ZBMxPWN9cG4kc+hiUyfPyP2aO6tVDrgaoFbsQDW lipuaKyWeoCI9/gw1bnZ+L8ZNyvkoYjtp7hQsY1aUzMFPkGFt3i6JUH/C6XHV9HdgSOO Oc5rUIU6iA+9yK8Zxg7tA5hus0oqc671UUlyF5jsfCfsY+6rFK1uivIj4xlp541TMyxs iosZn673L3cLwNA3AEoLvGvpWTd6CceUN2CPRtOFIiSM1vlPpz1pcGizhGQQGs/521KH x3izEI/fT09upJsullEXbDMqnJJYgVacHmnGHNNMezBGj045GcMyJiS/YlCss5gmdjOE u00A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.163.45 with SMTP id yf13mr25856652obb.66.1400694166919; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:42:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> <9D2BA52682C74ACAAF49F494BEA5B2F6@ELUS1> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 19:42:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PA Systems From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:43:30 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Nilesh Trivedi wrote= : > Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1 system? Pasting in below from a current Facebook discussion: Bose L1 Compact seems a very good solution. Portable, scalable and great sounding. I had a chance to listen to it last weekend and talk to the Swedish rep. We tried guitar duos (acoustic + electric/lapsteel/dist) with vocals and even "full band backing...See More Bose | L1® Compact system | L1® portable loudspeaker systems for live sound | Speakers... www.bose.com The Bose L1 Compact system combines conventional PA and monitors into one sleek ...See more 33 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 =C2=B7 Remove Preview Per Boysen The point with Bose is that you play less loud but get heard better because it distributes the soundwaves better; less reflections from floor and ceiling interfering with the listeners reception. I walked around and found this to be true, you really hear it clear and well at quite a long distance - not like normal PA speakers where the punch and resolution of sound dies off rather fast if you walk away a bit. 26 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 Per Boysen ...and because the possible lower volume on stage you can play in front of the speaker. I heard no feedback from the vocalists microphones even though they had their Bose stacks behind them. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 18:13:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D602F183582; Wed, 21 May 2014 18:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Y/mylTUUEwexws+XdyCqsKuqkctzp7P94kRx8KEUKZA=; b=V46K4y5DcN4soHq+4FFIugKNr4RKoIow4SI9xiYTH2652hbx3+rakgCQMmPWFKFWYy 5Q8TkjzWUDcodUm8GbzvXZ7A9N+2Av9wpw2+C02jqDvgYDye//tgwumK3Mp7AUBkmRgq pzhPtBP1LcM2OA90WkkzQhra+j45cbZrRxUP50rc0vTD3qMsommN0ZQ3FHSnt7K5a+Xj L9PKwNcZeTbjim8DR+93TzhFainJPsVBv6P72nNnDzNJDSNa8YYiwHrbZH81l4rD5F+e P6OFF/U362wWj5gRJ24m6amLLfnJCTgwjG13pclG2ck2UXCkyIcHKnM8mbeA7ey0jLxu KNww== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.27.198 with SMTP id j6mr72586821qcc.12.1400695973764; Wed, 21 May 2014 11:12:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> <9D2BA52682C74ACAAF49F494BEA5B2F6@ELUS1> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:12:53 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PA Systems From: Phil Clevenger To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133ba66f468dc04f9ecf14b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 18:13:36 +0000 (UTC) --001a1133ba66f468dc04f9ecf14b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No stereo in? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Nilesh Trivedi > wrote: > > Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1 system? > > > Pasting in below from a current Facebook discussion: > > Bose L1 Compact seems a very good solution. Portable, scalable and > great sounding. I had a chance to listen to it last weekend and talk > to the Swedish rep. We tried guitar duos (acoustic + > electric/lapsteel/dist) with vocals and even "full band backing...See > More > Bose | L1® Compact system | L1® portable loudspeaker systems > for live sound | Speakers... > www.bose.com > The Bose L1 Compact system combines conventional PA and monitors into > one sleek ...See more > 33 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 =C2=B7 Remove Preview > Per Boysen The point with Bose is that you play less loud but get > heard better because it distributes the soundwaves better; less > reflections from floor and ceiling interfering with the listeners > reception. I walked around and found this to be true, you really hear > it clear and well at quite a long distance - not like normal PA > speakers where the punch and resolution of sound dies off rather fast > if you walk away a bit. > 26 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 > Per Boysen ...and because the possible lower volume on stage you can > play in front of the speaker. I heard no feedback from the vocalists > microphones even though they had their Bose stacks behind them. > > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --001a1133ba66f468dc04f9ecf14b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No stereo in?


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Per Boysen <per= boysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:38= PM, Nilesh Trivedi <nilesh.tr@gm= ail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1 system?


Pasting in below from a current Facebook discussion:

Bose L1 Compact seems a very good solution. Portable, scalable and
great sounding. I had a chance to listen to it last weekend and talk
to the Swedish rep. We tried guitar duos (acoustic +
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Bose | L1&reg; Compact system | L1&reg; portable loudspeaker system= s
for live sound | Speakers...
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The Bose L1 Compact system combines conventional PA and monitors into
one sleek ...See more
33 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 =C2=B7 Remove Preview
Per Boysen The point with Bose is that you play less loud but get
heard better because it distributes the soundwaves better; less
reflections from floor and ceiling interfering with the listeners
reception. I walked around and found this to be true, you really hear
it clear and well at quite a long distance - not like normal PA
speakers where the punch and resolution of sound dies off rather fast
if you walk away a bit.
26 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1
Per Boysen ...and because the possible lower volume on stage you can
play in front of the speaker. I heard no feedback from the vocalists
microphones even though they had their Bose stacks behind them.


Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


--001a1133ba66f468dc04f9ecf14b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 18:21:50 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80CCB183582; Wed, 21 May 2014 18:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=c4zpYn7zwnD0cD0c0Vc+MArWTKeyR/sTzyZVtzdsi1A=; b=B1xwIyXOAcH88V/Rx6UqWFRNm851gcGID94lQq1EynzzeA8688jOhGtjPJ5io8j5Kn mEXidWbD0QESLPcuqJloMm9MUuU9THk/QtykdU3g/O+QIr9r0H/PwATBtUwMFF7B0viP ZAxBct3Ez/uYNdr09WxugY3j/tvXoNSXwTK7bYlBJstNe8oQmKG6zr+pB2lDDuc5EmPB fqTTKyuVeEJqv4UKtuhHsVczPmioAGIalU+rL+xLHdBJ3OcXZ4obWmPagkctIUoe4rI3 QlqGtJSagCWUjWV/fk+FQ75zG+oRCfnZGuAkgWIP4ASrQKdDkZPLH+/KJzbD+Wb3ben6 Qg8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.3.36 with SMTP id 4mr24505767obz.56.1400696467215; Wed, 21 May 2014 11:21:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> <9D2BA52682C74ACAAF49F494BEA5B2F6@ELUS1> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 20:21:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PA Systems From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 18:21:50 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote: > No stereo in? I guess you can feed it a stereo input but it doesn't have a stereo output. The speaker is mono, so if you want stereo you'd better get two. I thought this was bad a few years ago but today I would rather take the Bose's good balancing of frequencies over a stereo speaker setup (since I do a lot of gigs and find it more important that the music gets heard than that the panning gets heard by the few pps that happen to be standing at the spot of the venue where stereo can actually be detected) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 18:53:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FFFF183584; Wed, 21 May 2014 18:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de><9D2BA52682C74ACAAF49F494BEA5B2F6@ELUS1> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: PA Systems Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:52:29 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01CF7504.49BB62D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 X-Authenticated-User: spgoodman@earthlight.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 18:53:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01CF7504.49BB62D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, stereo-in! From: Phil Clevenger=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: PA Systems No stereo in? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Per Boysen = wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Nilesh Trivedi = wrote: > Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1 system? Pasting in below from a current Facebook discussion: Bose L1 Compact seems a very good solution. Portable, scalable and great sounding. I had a chance to listen to it last weekend and talk to the Swedish rep. We tried guitar duos (acoustic + electric/lapsteel/dist) with vocals and even "full band backing...See More Bose | L1® Compact system | L1® portable loudspeaker systems for live sound | Speakers... www.bose.com The Bose L1 Compact system combines conventional PA and monitors into one sleek ...See more 33 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 =C2=B7 Remove Preview Per Boysen The point with Bose is that you play less loud but get heard better because it distributes the soundwaves better; less reflections from floor and ceiling interfering with the listeners reception. I walked around and found this to be true, you really hear it clear and well at quite a long distance - not like normal PA speakers where the punch and resolution of sound dies off rather fast if you walk away a bit. 26 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 Per Boysen ...and because the possible lower volume on stage you can play in front of the speaker. I heard no feedback from the vocalists microphones even though they had their Bose stacks behind them. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01CF7504.49BB62D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, stereo-in!
 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: PA Systems
 
No stereo in?


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Nilesh Trivedi <nilesh.tr@gmail.com> = wrote:
>=20 Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1=20 system?


Pasting in below from a current Facebook=20 discussion:

Bose L1 Compact seems a very good solution. = Portable,=20 scalable and
great sounding. I had a chance to listen to it last = weekend=20 and talk
to the Swedish rep. We tried guitar duos (acoustic=20 +
electric/lapsteel/dist) with vocals and even "full band=20 backing...See
More
Bose | L1&reg; Compact system | = L1&reg;=20 portable loudspeaker systems
for live sound | Speakers...
www.bose.com
The = Bose L1=20 Compact system combines conventional PA and monitors into
one sleek = ...See=20 more
33 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 =C2=B7 Remove Preview
Per = Boysen The point with Bose=20 is that you play less loud but get
heard better because it = distributes the=20 soundwaves better; less
reflections from floor and ceiling = interfering with=20 the listeners
reception. I walked around and found this to be true, = you=20 really hear
it clear and well at quite a long distance - not like = normal=20 PA
speakers where the punch and resolution of sound dies off rather = fast
if you walk away a bit.
26 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1
Per = Boysen ...and=20 because the possible lower volume on stage you can
play in front of = the=20 speaker. I heard no feedback from the vocalists
microphones even = though=20 they had their Bose stacks behind them.


Greetings from=20 Sweden

Per = Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen

 
------=_NextPart_000_006F_01CF7504.49BB62D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 18:54:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DE2E18358A; Wed, 21 May 2014 18:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <537CF4D4.7080302@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:47:48 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Boomerang(R) III software V3.3 has been released Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1U_hyB.A.8XG.BaPfTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 18:54:57 +0000 (UTC) It's official and the software can be downloaded from our website. It has the "active" MIDI sync algorithm so loops will stay synced to an external MIDI clock FOREVER (said with valley girl accent). http://www.boomerangmusic.com/E156.shtml#software -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 21 19:15:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96C8F183583; Wed, 21 May 2014 19:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oye5HwCbX7GmHZdclToqA91KDRAL9aiYB0zVdPgYQDQ=; b=uGbqd2gJTAEK51ZNBgDPJ1jx4FZEhttEbd6poMu307FgGYTdkRgFLIM+FqCoQonHOB 5pSq7sV26LLz22GSvyvGGg+3CFNhD7qyKZMRe0YReEu6IIx4FuRg9pu5rstdFwcC1raE 71OBYMDsE9+0IzaYdKFqtmA1fD5GEyyaGz+FK/whT2uGHciBefQAHkbLFhsnymc9NBg4 QMWHqx7hbA18uapYzCffzRe2OHeQt13Hz1E4GUsyAkCp0QdgWbAQzbf6xdBQ5Fo3LPp0 ih50UJ9A5Z6EYaq2LgWRfyrtak64j3ljoUkRNwz6TmadZdtSPhL7bogHLl0qyDKhvvqQ /Q7w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.143.104 with SMTP id sd8mr16536730igb.18.1400699691213; Wed, 21 May 2014 12:14:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cf6d59$a2d86000$e8892000$@mpeters.de> <9D2BA52682C74ACAAF49F494BEA5B2F6@ELUS1> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:14:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PA Systems From: Todd Elliott To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135f1a688285704f9edcf0f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 19:15:34 +0000 (UTC) --001a1135f1a688285704f9edcf0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsGY1ptKHkE0 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote: > No stereo in? > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Nilesh Trivedi >> wrote: >> > Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1 system? >> >> >> Pasting in below from a current Facebook discussion: >> >> Bose L1 Compact seems a very good solution. Portable, scalable and >> great sounding. I had a chance to listen to it last weekend and talk >> to the Swedish rep. We tried guitar duos (acoustic + >> electric/lapsteel/dist) with vocals and even "full band backing...See >> More >> Bose | L1® Compact system | L1® portable loudspeaker systems >> for live sound | Speakers... >> www.bose.com >> The Bose L1 Compact system combines conventional PA and monitors into >> one sleek ...See more >> 33 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 =C2=B7 Remove Preview >> Per Boysen The point with Bose is that you play less loud but get >> heard better because it distributes the soundwaves better; less >> reflections from floor and ceiling interfering with the listeners >> reception. I walked around and found this to be true, you really hear >> it clear and well at quite a long distance - not like normal PA >> speakers where the punch and resolution of sound dies off rather fast >> if you walk away a bit. >> 26 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 >> Per Boysen ...and because the possible lower volume on stage you can >> play in front of the speaker. I heard no feedback from the vocalists >> microphones even though they had their Bose stacks behind them. >> >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> > --=20 http://alisongmadrigal.bandcamp.com http://toaster.bandcamp.com --001a1135f1a688285704f9edcf0f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:12= AM, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:=
No stereo in?


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Nilesh= Trivedi <niles= h.tr@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have an opinion/experience with Bose L1 system?


Pasting in below from a current Facebook discussion:

Bose L1 Compact seems a very good solution. Portable, scalable and
great sounding. I had a chance to listen to it last weekend and talk
to the Swedish rep. We tried guitar duos (acoustic +
electric/lapsteel/dist) with vocals and even "full band backing...See<= br> More
Bose | L1&reg; Compact system | L1&reg; portable loudspeaker system= s
for live sound | Speakers...
www.bose.com
The Bose L1 Compact system combines conventional PA and monitors into
one sleek ...See more
33 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1 =C2=B7 Remove Preview
Per Boysen The point with Bose is that you play less loud but get
heard better because it distributes the soundwaves better; less
reflections from floor and ceiling interfering with the listeners
reception. I walked around and found this to be true, you really hear
it clear and well at quite a long distance - not like normal PA
speakers where the punch and resolution of sound dies off rather fast
if you walk away a bit.
26 mins =C2=B7 Like =C2=B7 1
Per Boysen ...and because the possible lower volume on stage you can
play in front of the speaker. I heard no feedback from the vocalists
microphones even though they had their Bose stacks behind them.


Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen





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--001a1135f1a688285704f9edcf0f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 22 00:00:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 825CE183584; Thu, 22 May 2014 00:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1400716767; bh=EYoFA+v1SPoVGIe8VfSMiJqaIRy3+1pgd+nXCnR8Mq8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=5G7xEpdoeHMTD6So/5+ded84hVjOSpZbLx1pn9x9OkmY/EZ5p0M9An17mvvnsH2mA6bZikLttSD/S6JURHI0QAeGiGlk2cNazVyHRby+URKZm8FJw303Zk0rBenq3W9IEfNqaReG2rNOakHA8FsWitRPrpByEW8m+8uZFCMEwQw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 283772.38187.bm@smtp110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: W0dWCWUVM1lCYjXKZa.OIKGf9NEj6BFAGwjLyPGk2Ku9B2t cO6YC7Bb5q3KWjVPxzBKn9J3YELSrk852Z7JlRAS.LlmVvdTveeRJuBndFyx UwADfHnNJNw4z6N6LfXPSNOPPu.VaoxqiXfJe9MjuKNQo1Y1R7EU47OeX6mO rsXav6PorIMpytSr2iBZ0T7JNVg6JjmYaBdemmy_io7cX1J_LWMI2aCFCMZP prsONr7ILV_j8HyFEXUP57stBWBAyen29F3b8rUnSM1.FOQPzGZzXI2gzZrZ kV_sOwJAOPzPvRkifhN.7SgSy7UJCDGbL1PHo41FXQcvjd2GI1Yuywio1AS9 EsiUDhZY3Ql5gGfWpTUWVMa7dYOjzSlToarb5sz2lX11Exl2H8ABJogfB5jy o05KiJf2VHc_Q4ACnjAE4X1ECuBLGHMYPd99MauLE_Z4X6Rze_xOQGtNW6yI zOLT8BuHtzLmKpOVtXsy8tlRMo_mJuqTVKgL3eC7FFk66eqz0pEFsZc.Un0q c9_wiqBi1gZXyfAXYLSHwhCPkq.gSmVEANPBS1RlBhB7jWakLBFtGjCLENHk GGAD7mJBkAnwTvE7zav4aayg43yxoRtq4wqTrZw1W0vQPnZEyKt4- X-Yahoo-SMTP: yRBEy4.swBCKSazU852c19FMfIqgzJ9luWs- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.0.1.5] (stevebassbird@99.118.55.62 with xymcookie [98.138.86.130]) by smtp110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2014 16:59:27 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: Boomerang(R) III software V3.3 has been released References: <537CF4D4.7080302@boomerangmusic.com> From: Steve U Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <537CF4D4.7080302@boomerangmusic.com> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 16:59:23 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 00:00:11 +0000 (UTC) I'm assuming not and forgive me for the silly question, but does this new so= ftware include the instant stacking feature as well? > On May 21, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Mike wrote: >=20 > It's official and the software can be downloaded from our website. It h= as the "active" MIDI sync algorithm so loops will stay synced to an external= MIDI clock FOREVER (said with valley girl accent). >=20 > http://www.boomerangmusic.com/E156.shtml#software >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >=20 > ---------- >=20 > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." >=20 > ---------- >=20 > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax >=20 > http://www.boomerangmusic.com >=20 > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 >=20 > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 22 07:07:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37779183583; Thu, 22 May 2014 07:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 483891.72508.bm@omp1005.mail.ir2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1400742234; bh=c0mIb0d44+V3Y0WdU2+f0jUfqmQSyOyAtWEAGzXPr98=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YOEIyrYrXR5uq+xrxpVyZHBbii0c5tH0CwLOeArtWlNiNM/5d2Jpb/gQQuT0LPY/Xr8X3F2BzjQgUXDzS3jeJrpXZjjQfZQCBMvDWYmqldIPdjMl1r4tqNObfpYwkvVZtAHmabtRA54MSR32/MyFAkpLVIkqpr3xT7jTJdddMpk= X-YMail-OSG: JzS2rEYVM1nJfMbJzkuGB.S_Qeh3jaHzJlajcNqOy3G_Dxb eU5pAGQLXM0x58ylnn2g0qaDhxpPHtrT6U1fpuazPZtNnR2f8QVoI9NPu2OR c_biqWFkqrYXcB8tkXUDr8_sEAPspVDPjhIAEBPt3Fa1TLKoVGCtCaAqgHAR u_lke_easvFYZvbse2B3TzrwIWyKNuiUMNAKZETfEZSl1DB6AT.DMzolda7j DzQiAMBOwjDgBk2.rnJuxcFAMN73WOt61WZ28OBdLtPRN2i89lmRyyVj2G2H TWAezfA44X4Kj8NKsDQ79W8g07mTHq2iDAamyZTRXC046IKYcTixo4nRPokF 3ZQz3Y1SfPwawD.jvT_7cHGph69FsRubK.zqQs54zj74p5G.1oWNXTinGekk .j5Aqg5Y7BradQpjBazOyQMpDsYAfVYUPKC8O3NnZpR30hwkNeXV6OQC7H_u xMcXEQCQbU88ouPO1RGijLfMbZYFT2nE0QuRvTLWCmAR.lHGCEcRaKguROF8 eOHEc2r434E4a1P3SX2pF.5Ya9iO66l3gAxbhutGdj2exqit1r6SgNMX0Ofj W3q9cqgoVCmef6REIvI4LF7G9gfd5u.dxjKZ5bMX2wsjWfyCNSxh55zl84jZ pTxPV1xWEcZH1.7Sz9y0ULKl78LLlyxy0 X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,SGksIEkga25vdyBpdCdzIGEgYml0IE9UIChidXQgYSBiaXQgbG9vcCByZWxhdGVkIHRvbyksIGFuZCBJIGtub3cgdGhpcyBsaXN0IGlzIGEgc3Vja2VyIGZvciB0aGlzIGtpbmQgb2Ygc3R1ZmYgKGdlbmVyYXRpdmUsIHNvZnR3YXJlLCB2aWRlby9tdXNpYyBpbnRlZ3JhdGlvbiwgcGQvbWF4LCAuLi4pCgpJIGRvbid0IHRoaW5rIHRoaXMgaGFzIGFwcGVhcmVkIG9uIHRoZSBsaXN0IHlldDoKaHR0cDovL3d3dy52YW5qYWN1ay5kZS9sb2xpZ28vaW5kZXguc2h0bWwKCgpCZW4KATABAQEB X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.188.663 Message-ID: <1400742234.16237.YahooMailNeo@web172004.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 08:03:54 +0100 (BST) From: Benoit Ruelle Reply-To: Benoit Ruelle Subject: OT: loligo To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="2050910552-69496470-1400742234=:16237" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 07:07:27 +0000 (UTC) --2050910552-69496470-1400742234=:16237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I know it's a bit OT (but a bit loop related too), and I know this list= is a sucker for this kind of stuff (generative, software, video/music inte= gration, pd/max, ...)=0A=0AI don't think this has appeared on the list yet:= =0Ahttp://www.vanjacuk.de/loligo/index.shtml=0A=0A=0ABen=0A --2050910552-69496470-1400742234=:16237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ben

--2050910552-69496470-1400742234=:16237-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 22 16:49:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9175D183587; Thu, 22 May 2014 16:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <537E2A73.7010704@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 12:48:51 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 16:49:43 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY http://galactictravels.info Please SHARE so that more people can listen to and support the artists. Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Adventures in Sound 196" on electro-music media. The Special Focus page is at http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. Become a WDIY member now! http://ow.ly/pJhCf From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 22 20:09:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D267183584; Thu, 22 May 2014 20:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 533 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Thu, 22 May 2014 20:09:03 UTC X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <537E5711.6040706@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 14:59:13 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang(R) III software V3.3 has been released References: <537CF4D4.7080302@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8JRUOC.A.fkG.gllfTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:09:04 +0000 (UTC) No, the "two tap, instant stack on playback" feature has not been implemented, but should appear within the next couple of months. Currently we've asking customers how they want it to work. On 21-May-14 6:59 PM, Steve U wrote: > I'm assuming not and forgive me for the silly question, but does this new software include the instant stacking feature as well? > >> On May 21, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Mike wrote: >> >> It's official and the software can be downloaded from our website. It has the "active" MIDI sync algorithm so loops will stay synced to an external MIDI clock FOREVER (said with valley girl accent). >> >> http://www.boomerangmusic.com/E156.shtml#software -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 22 22:18:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5188183584; Thu, 22 May 2014 22:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 304 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Thu, 22 May 2014 22:18:09 UTC X-TMN: [LQv/efzPZVcY7BQxRimJhHgcJWTkDqEE] X-Originating-Email: [anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_883674fb-9905-4bc0-ad6c-a924e9de3840_" From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: micro looping... sampling.. new piece, guitar live electronics Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:12:18 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2014 22:12:18.0569 (UTC) FILETIME=[E54B1F90:01CF760A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:18:09 +0000 (UTC) --_883674fb-9905-4bc0-ad6c-a924e9de3840_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I feel that my new little clip is sort of=2C in parts back to looping.. and= using a extremely short loop=2C and other cool stuff on my octatrackhttps:= //soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/wtinforsplatt No pre recorded samples all "live" recorded in one take=2C the octatrack is= sampling looping and mangling my live guitar..=20 Loop on... = --_883674fb-9905-4bc0-ad6c-a924e9de3840_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I feel that my new little clip i= s sort of=2C in parts back to looping.. and using a extremely short loop=2C= and other cool stuff on my octatrack
https://soundcloud.com/an= ders-bergdahl/wtinforsplatt

No pre recorded samp= les all "live" recorded in one take=2C the octatrack is sampling looping an= d mangling my live guitar.. =3B

Loop on...

= --_883674fb-9905-4bc0-ad6c-a924e9de3840_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 23 12:29:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FDDD183583; Fri, 23 May 2014 12:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <537F3EF3.9010500@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 08:28:35 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #894 for May 22, 2014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1m5Ca.A.-rB.l8zfTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:29:25 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/140522.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #894 May 22, 2014. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Adventures in Sound Episode 196" on electro- music media.http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may I also played music that I picked up at last week's Asheville electro- music festival, including the new album by AirSculpture. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) AirSculpture Argent Engine Graveyard Shift (none) Cotton Blossom Band Blue Cosmic Blue Soulshining (Space for Music) Craig Padilla Cosmic Dawn Sonar (Fruits de Mer) Tony Gerber and Skytones City Skies 2011 (Space for Paul Vnuk, Jr. Music) Bernhard Wostheinrich * Live in Cologne 2013 (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Modulator ESP Benjolin Exploration Adventures in Sound 196 Zones (electro-music media) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Adventures in Sound Episode 198" on electro-music media. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2014-05-29 Bill ========================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com ======================================================================== Timezone information - [ Winter: EST/GMT-5 / Summer: EDT/GMT-4 ] Daylight Saving Time in the US (2014) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 9 and ends at 2:00 AM on Sunday, November 2. ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 24 08:28:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B80E3183584; Sat, 24 May 2014 08:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <538057E4.9090907@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 04:27:16 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 08:28:09 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Please SHARE so that more people can listen to and support the artists. Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, is on at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs and will play from the new AirSculpture album. In Phase 3, I'll play music by Lana Lane. The show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 25 12:19:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F16C183583; Sun, 25 May 2014 12:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5381DF96.4010807@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 08:18:30 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for May 24, 2014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 12:19:23 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2014/140524.html Thought Radio is the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show hosted by Bill Fox. You can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and streaming on the internet. Bill also hosts Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #278 May 24, 2014. Recap: In Phase 1, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. I played music that I picked up at last week's Asheville electro-music festival, including the new album from AirSculpture. In Phase 3, I played music from Think Tank Media by the Rocket Scientists and by Lana Lane. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== AirSculpture Graveyard Shift Graveyard Shift (none) Craig Padilla FullMoon World Strange Fish 1 (Fruits de Mer) VA [Syndromeda] Intermezzo Sequences No. 27 Chronotope Project Oort Cloud Dharma Rain (Udana Music) Oophoi and West Field: Awua Dreamfields (Nextera) Paul Vnuk, Jr. Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Sacred Earth Jai Breathing Space (Real Music) Haiku Voyage Flow (Real Music) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Lana Lane Queen of the Ocean Queen of the Ocean(Think Tank) Rocket Scientists Mariner Looking Backward (Think Tank) Art of Infinity The Flow of Time Musik zwischen Zeit und Raum Pray for Brain Drop the Needle None of the Above (7d Media) Pray for Brain Grind Responsibly None of the Above (7d Media) Stick Men On / Off Deep (Stick Men) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that came with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Timezone information - [ Winter: EST/GMT-5 / Summer: EDT/GMT-4 ] Daylight Saving Time in the US (2014) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 9 and ends at 2:00 AM on Sunday, November 2. ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 07:09:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE9B4183582; Mon, 26 May 2014 07:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RaKwEkl13gMGdBGd4m7z3hhkanVTJh5g58nqZqEn2lw=; b=eb7qso4zHTZdWbqiGVC5/SIZEOeh/xT5rHvfKIq3Jc2P9gZGDf3gA4cdDaCrzSSRfY gWVpy5uIiKHKAryCEGEgjFfJPJhuXf9A1KZ0y0Vf6dt4EvNL75YbuKnvLhsSjZVBLTwE D+brmy4qTwcfz3HIiryUkx900IEOFT3X+UvE+7y5KHm1E/fOu3iK8fbWyPZcWonM+7O+ ly1oTxKMBnAzP8axDPjbtiBoWAZ61SAKyP3EroblHVlqEb7atbKKICH/revuyjr8sUKI VfiPp57FBmZd9U8KiVG3K/6eehUyLNf39z4HJmFaGP5ptvWP3D1fNfBNbAze61GDvEgF 5mkg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.53.72 with SMTP id l8mr19966147vcg.16.1401088140402; Mon, 26 May 2014 00:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 09:09:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Ditto X2 half-speed question From: Jenko Nashorn To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2cb12e8a7ff04fa4840a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 07:09:48 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c2cb12e8a7ff04fa4840a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello there, I have a question to the Ditto X2 users: Is it possible to first switch to half speed and then record a loop (like on the Line6 DL-4)? I use that feature quite a lot on my DL-4 and if that was indeed possible, the X2 would be a good candidate to replace my DL-4. Cheers, Johannes -- jenko.nashorn@gmail.com <--jenko.nashorn@gmail.com> http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn --001a11c2cb12e8a7ff04fa4840a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello there,

I have a question to the D= itto X2 users: Is it possible to first switch to half speed and then record= a loop (like on the Line6 DL-4)?
I use that feature quite a lot = on my DL-4 and if that was indeed possible, the X2 would be a good candidat= e to replace my DL-4.

Cheers,
--001a11c2cb12e8a7ff04fa4840a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 16:31:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44D6D183582; Mon, 26 May 2014 16:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HIfd0Nbn5L0oeVo+gB6NSw)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-26_02:2014-05-26,2014-05-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=6 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405260239 From: bill walker Message-id: <6D7078D0-E95D-44E1-9E07-93C4DAD76305@icloud.com> Subject: Re: Ditto X2 half-speed question Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 09:30:25 -0700 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:31:18 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_HIfd0Nbn5L0oeVo+gB6NSw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT yes, you can even toggle speeds while recording Bill On May 26, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Jenko Nashorn wrote: > Hello there, > > I have a question to the Ditto X2 users: Is it possible to first switch to half speed and then record a loop (like on the Line6 DL-4)? > I use that feature quite a lot on my DL-4 and if that was indeed possible, the X2 would be a good candidate to replace my DL-4. > > Cheers, > Johannes > > -- > jenko.nashorn@gmail.com > http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn > --Boundary_(ID_HIfd0Nbn5L0oeVo+gB6NSw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT yes, you can even toggle speeds while recording
 Bill
On May 26, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Jenko Nashorn <jenko.nashorn@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there,

I have a question to the Ditto X2 users: Is it possible to first switch to half speed and then record a loop (like on the Line6 DL-4)?
I use that feature quite a lot on my DL-4 and if that was indeed possible, the X2 would be a good candidate to replace my DL-4.

Cheers,

--Boundary_(ID_HIfd0Nbn5L0oeVo+gB6NSw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 19:27:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 189B6183582; Mon, 26 May 2014 19:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2SpgT3W4A3bqbSlw4JL7LsmcAf89HajOUW/8i4ZTn9A=; b=YbLFi/tc8Xdk7+m/bOwjJk4YVRhQoGolYCN9cd0XqemoYX4o6Xt14mC4aqmZ67OlqC jC4aV6X1k5mSW//G/xOOt3BjjdU6BysZFJoEk7GU0NKQgTkNVi/mxoD/HVIGB98T/tUi p/AEOsKrduvajA7g87Jf+ewYUB5vZYw7TYqWyIxXUyNNjh3DK/Q3OBHBhFJ6r6fk9lyu Susnzf/Krru551nv+nBMxL1jHuoei/YCJoagmlQ3Lzs3Ea2Nk1IVsr+ZPBsQv2nJXHiy hzfGCf14QOtyhO+D2GPzziirLlIkRqoL/spucFLermgaLIw/5TE59deRY9KAp+ImEqmb Sl9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.106.202 with SMTP id e68mr32788840qgf.83.1401132389143; Mon, 26 May 2014 12:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 12:26:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: FCB 1010 Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a664a569cf804fa528ebe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 19:27:18 +0000 (UTC) --001a113a664a569cf804fa528ebe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused the lo= nger I play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not quite seeing how to solve it. I'm using the FCB to control m=C3=B6bius via notes but th= e FCB also sends a control value along with the second press of the button. These values seem to be set but the cc number changes each time (I.e. all sound off 37, the next time it will be all sound off 25 and so on). It looks like the Behringer will always send a cc along with the note but I'm not finding where I can determine what note it may be (I'd at least like to send it something useless rather than the mess it sending now). The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confused and I would = like to remedy that. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. Thanks, Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a113a664a569cf804fa528ebe Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused the lo= nger I play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not qui= te seeing how to solve it. =C2=A0I'm using the FCB to=C2=A0control m=C3= =B6bius via notes but the FCB also sends a control value along with the sec= ond press of the button. =C2=A0These values seem to be set but the cc numbe= r changes each time (I.e. all sound off 37, the next time it will be all so= und off 25 and so on). =C2=A0It looks like the Behringer will always send a= cc along with the note but I'm not finding where I can determine what = note it may be (I'd at least like to send it something useless rather t= han the mess it sending now).

The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confus= ed and I would like to remedy that. =C2=A0Any suggestions gratefully accept= ed.

Thanks,

Kevin

--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to hav= e a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all tr= ouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)


--001a113a664a569cf804fa528ebe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 19:46:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD9C0183580; Mon, 26 May 2014 19:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bH0/Ij51mDxyCBofHez19WRnz6cCWo6jqLShmzwZj1I=; b=KD8aMYv8fHjG9MrimKwDvHUD4joVXqjw7W25j4TgPolcD10j6T/AXUkldwZgFlFDEm ySsHNHA6KRrEnqoXdTy8+XGsxuEIgjyW1wBT6Rvyt/BT0PQALmKD9nmauz+YQOExwAdt mGS4NpjpGJYjkg2S0LxOyZh13imETBbzkkljRhB2/6N27wXx451YBhw8B3lx6OqbnAvU XX8v+UVXObs5yNqv6ZPaLwCiPwAgngI04zHz3NNVJ+k5bRHYg8mUYWb6QjzzM9y15buC Igw114iXFcIlFFBUUDLQhL80WgiIfrOloMkFcG3/o58I3jYv+fR2nbJDwWcfTzCoh76h 4cdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.60.65 with SMTP id f1mr5608709obr.78.1401133543790; Mon, 26 May 2014 12:45:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 21:45:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 19:46:32 +0000 (UTC) I too had that issue with my FCB boards. In total I have used three FCB's and they were all afflicted with random CC# leakage. I dealt with it by filtering out all MIDI events that I had not assigned to a specific function. But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying pan" so to say :-) The final solution, when my third FCB broke, was to buy a Gordius Little Giant instead. This board has not had any problems like that and it has already saved me money as the FCB's all break after almost exactly three years. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused the = longer I > play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not quite seeing > how to solve it. I'm using the FCB to control m=C3=B6bius via notes but = the FCB > also sends a control value along with the second press of the button. Th= ese > values seem to be set but the cc number changes each time (I.e. all sound > off 37, the next time it will be all sound off 25 and so on). It looks l= ike > the Behringer will always send a cc along with the note but I'm not findi= ng > where I can determine what note it may be (I'd at least like to send it > something useless rather than the mess it sending now). > > The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confused and I woul= d like > to remedy that. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 20:02:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABD2A183581; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Sx9Es/jOnSIzoAK/xaMYooFZPSPngaglsY2Ai8ueZsg=; b=Xj3ExFmEwBSa9vl7qSWUM5hUqj+SRFKHzbpwzuGEOxpZ/gbNp128Ru/PVfUJVcIYga jYOlPZ0nLySbfbdDqsXBwRTgwnHyVg31sW+reErvKCHy6C2hh22gPLHoxsVzem+rS74I iviv/cPO4dAfK+o4hC+yeVSfW0ppQC0099eu4EL4wVckshi8t3weP+WHBYLET69OOOKa 2PCdxp60wIXCT2RGlp9uH0qPBy/ut6RwD4YAcS+YFunjnA9pjweEEnvZ0ERilxFvRskL HyC9FZpYEfTsD4Umvllgr1Uyq+HkpeCsiS2Z/+M5y+TDa/uFlHkvz0VhGuezEAcKd0v6 h+WA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.122.208 with SMTP id lu16mr29105408pab.129.1401134489035; Mon, 26 May 2014 13:01:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:01:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0e6d480691a04fa530bcf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:02:18 +0000 (UTC) --047d7bf0e6d480691a04fa530bcf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > It looks like the Behringer will always send a cc along with the note You'll need to filter... if you have Bidule, it's pretty easy to setup, otherwise have a look at midiPipe (OS X): http://www.subtlesoft.square7.net/MidiPipe.html Sylvain --047d7bf0e6d480691a04fa530bcf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <= billowhead@gmail.= com> wrote:
It looks like the Behringer will always send a cc along wi= th the note


You'll need to filter...= =C2=A0if you have Bidule, it's pretty easy to setup, otherwise have a = look at midiPipe (OS X):=C2=A0http://www.subtlesoft.square7.net/MidiPipe.html

Sylvain
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--047d7bf0e6d480691a04fa530bcf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 20:03:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3F12183581; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TQn4nvVFpfaY4EY29Ax8JnO6HCyimwUTcU6estax/2U=; b=r/KQEyqI9lQPrvTL/TOFQoBKN8RJC6wQKcGJgwl2YLrKmrGSX5Eqtt4Ez0+4i3QXYt 99k6h+3P44Ph8OUrg0oOAMmFYWLcrjR8m9uSNXcyaZUHYLjs6sfZgUeFEvzh1pPfjkzF IQZIro6mPbAW/sVMXrEAgw4eanR7H/Z0rFEPlKD15ZOcirkYohTnRHtFuTrGw8TuOpwj 8x84Q7grKTDMJMOast8kMTxuPrGTVV6OP8fpv2Yv3Rg5vcZAu5t+mbGywhEs0kiVtsvQ IMCbrPw7sqbNRXOTigUlZoSgKPkxHhH8YmNlPJNmsunuoQYdwr2+Tos25JjRGP4IFE+5 t0KQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.231.229 with SMTP id tj5mr30178212pbc.101.1401134576775; Mon, 26 May 2014 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:02:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b33c65ebb38ee04fa5310f3 Resent-Message-ID: <7U2AC.A.59G.h45gTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:03:45 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b33c65ebb38ee04fa5310f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to > match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying > pan" so to say :-) > What an awful controller! Unless your looking for an additional source of indeterminacy in your music... Sylvain --047d7b33c65ebb38ee04fa5310f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-)

What an awful controll= er! =C2=A0Unless your looking for an additional source of indeterminacy in = your music...

Sylvain
--047d7b33c65ebb38ee04fa5310f3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 20:19:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42CD518357F; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 757 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:19:07 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Christoph Lehmann In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 22:01:32 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Jykif6LnMkiPOLtu5HdrkE6Bmk6BtWsWLVjsAmXzGCVxU7nv/7P dy6yK2sTFgwXa5+2NQAzyoNtTkZ/gPBPidrVPAReSEIwq2kI2t3aDnPMYC1UKSGGCfq4+nC mE/G0BHjOK0dxIZtIVu8A39qnsw2Y9fYlJHY26QfppACSkts9/XiCJJ9Ftlb6+3oTEUEBml 0T7ioqso62RZyr6Io2zSA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:19:08 +0000 (UTC) The FCB1010 can indeed send notes and cc messages at the same time. To determine whether this is the problem or not, you can deactivate = every midi-function but the note-function. As far as I remember it works like this: 1. Perform a long press on the DOWN/ESCAPE button to go to the = configuration menu. 2. Press UP/ENTER 3. Now you should be able to turn the functions on or off with a long = press on the related button. The LEDs indicate whether a function is = activated. The note function you want to keep activated is assigned to = button 10. Accordingly the LED beneath button nr. 10 is the only one, = which should remain on. Hope this is helpful and I made no mistake. I also had a lot of problems = when I started using the Mobius + FCB1010 combination some while ago. = Didn't knew anything about the midi-protocol as well. I helped myself = printing out all the manuals and information about MIDI I could find on = the internet and briefly study it whenever possible. Chris > So I keep having trouble with M=F6bius getting seriously confused the = longer I play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not = quite seeing how to solve it. I'm using the FCB to control m=F6bius via = notes but the FCB also sends a control value along with the second press = of the button. These values seem to be set but the cc number changes = each time (I.e. all sound off 37, the next time it will be all sound off = 25 and so on). It looks like the Behringer will always send a cc along = with the note but I'm not finding where I can determine what note it may = be (I'd at least like to send it something useless rather than the mess = it sending now). >=20 > The upshot of all this is m=F6bius is getting very confused and I = would like to remedy that. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Kevin >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble. >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 20:26:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35F7E18357D; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Jf9at4GGF+3zu1Z7/ot5I6ZKCJamuBGtZsSPgGYIAZo=; b=Lsdo3lozEHTVyFIbIbwSAuyWgmsG5xOM9cuust6CzyPgDU3anaySkxeLPjr7Yw3ewH 81oHxc3LGIqrZav7rIgj/fdzpkKAL/I6/AlitEiiOJM43DivQQfy8AvTZbzGKrRROAWn eA7s3RPSBl0p3jaD2KuaL3jtVXL7rdrqWw+kxmD2jH/wXJom2g5J79cq9eYAU+mIQN1t tEL3C7zZqEgsrjj2Zr2s6nFdnHrcjj5SSahURU/y1SyOb9xQznMAgYu5obZwLcOEI2QQ C/IET9PPVAkLmzg+Du1c4SEvjv1bw/M++JbGWlC6/3S5vT4xL2nB/Y3r5wffic5E9NGo rYnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.81.74 with SMTP id e68mr33882036qgd.77.1401135941575; Mon, 26 May 2014 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:25:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c11d121484b104fa536251 Resent-Message-ID: <3fFBV.A.DfH.2N6gTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:26:30 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c11d121484b104fa536251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Chris, I went through that and confirmed I'm only sending the notes but then there is this global thing where its sending the CC and I'm trying to track that down since its a different control on every button. Kevin On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Christoph Lehmann wrote: > The FCB1010 can indeed send notes and cc messages at the same time. > To determine whether this is the problem or not, you can deactivate every > midi-function but the note-function. > As far as I remember it works like this: > > 1. Perform a long press on the DOWN/ESCAPE button to go to the > configuration menu. > 2. Press UP/ENTER > 3. Now you should be able to turn the functions on or off with a long > press on the related button. The LEDs indicate whether a function is > activated. The note function you want to keep activated is assigned to > button 10. Accordingly the LED beneath button nr. 10 is the only one, whi= ch > should remain on. > > Hope this is helpful and I made no mistake. I also had a lot of problems > when I started using the Mobius + FCB1010 combination some while ago. > Didn't knew anything about the midi-protocol as well. I helped myself > printing out all the manuals and information about MIDI I could find on t= he > internet and briefly study it whenever possible. > > Chris > > > > > > > So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused th= e > longer I play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not qui= te > seeing how to solve it. I'm using the FCB to control m=C3=B6bius via not= es but > the FCB also sends a control value along with the second press of the > button. These values seem to be set but the cc number changes each time > (I.e. all sound off 37, the next time it will be all sound off 25 and so > on). It looks like the Behringer will always send a cc along with the no= te > but I'm not finding where I can determine what note it may be (I'd at lea= st > like to send it something useless rather than the mess it sending now). > > > > The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confused and I wo= uld > like to remedy that. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a11c11d121484b104fa536251 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Chris,

I went through that and c= onfirmed I'm only sending the notes but then there is this global thing= where its sending the CC and I'm trying to track that down since its a= different control on every button.

Kevin


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Christoph Lehmann = <krr= rs@gmx.de> wrote:
The FCB1010 can indeed send notes and cc mes= sages at the same time.
To determine whether this is the problem or not, you can deactivate every m= idi-function but the note-function.
As far as I remember it works like this:

1. Perform a long press on the DOWN/ESCAPE button to go to the configuratio= n menu.
2. Press UP/ENTER
3. Now you should be able to turn the functions on or off with a long press= on the related button. The LEDs indicate whether a function is activated. = The note function you want to keep activated is assigned to button 10. Acco= rdingly the LED beneath button nr. 10 is the only one, which should remain = on.

Hope this is helpful and I made no mistake. I also had a lot of problems wh= en I started using the Mobius + FCB1010 combination some while ago. Didn= 9;t knew anything about the midi-protocol as well. I helped myself printing= out all the manuals and information about MIDI I could find on the interne= t and briefly study it whenever possible.

Chris





> So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused t= he longer I play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm no= t quite seeing how to solve it. =C2=A0I'm using the FCB to control m=C3= =B6bius via notes but the FCB also sends a control value along with the sec= ond press of the button. =C2=A0These values seem to be set but the cc numbe= r changes each time (I.e. all sound off 37, the next time it will be all so= und off 25 and so on). =C2=A0It looks like the Behringer will always send a= cc along with the note but I'm not finding where I can determine what = note it may be (I'd at least like to send it something useless rather t= han the mess it sending now).
>
> The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confused and I w= ould like to remedy that. =C2=A0Any suggestions gratefully accepted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
>




--
= Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
= form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

--001a11c11d121484b104fa536251-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 20:27:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD245183581; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hx2gJTk/lkoaAEKGE8wDmINKo9dGuU+jEXvD8k4rjKM=; b=00ZdG5HvFJDpF+Xf6tV3E1tssbiu381iJ8FLXY2hYfLx45IZLDabMJtp+upgLA5r1d zgYj2d7TuwGA4R1kVMrZ2WeEFYAGfNa+L/PWGi2Pp65kAqHlZAeE3TQ2tnbd7iDulbRn vCdZrHSztrA6YnMhpNurmBwkheJfdpk2hxc9h0xr+phP7iHZIsZIDWXFEu+up0kEQZtD h3Ci34PfxhraEyeXAtVRjhcpTSs+dtl1VYkFp0eeTMGzckinkJRfoobJQZ5dLlP7mOpg e/1r7b+hQQJSiPsgFpxWVZucnouHMG81cshYQTn3QK8HaNpvdoN/zvGIBX9GB+HPD+av lvbw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.81.74 with SMTP id e68mr33889461qgd.77.1401136015164; Mon, 26 May 2014 13:26:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:26:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c11d127764d204fa536655 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:27:43 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c11d127764d204fa536655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, the manual does say its sending this CC so its not exactly unplanned leakage but I'm not finding where it determines what command its going to send. Its different on every button although I did find the channel its working on. Kevin On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I too had that issue with my FCB boards. In total I have used three > FCB's and they were all afflicted with random CC# leakage. I dealt > with it by filtering out all MIDI events that I had not assigned to a > specific function. But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to > match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying > pan" so to say :-) The final solution, when my third FCB broke, was > to buy a Gordius Little Giant instead. This board has not had any > problems like that and it has already saved me money as the FCB's all > break after almost exactly three years. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > > So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused th= e > longer I > > play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not quite seei= ng > > how to solve it. I'm using the FCB to control m=C3=B6bius via notes bu= t the > FCB > > also sends a control value along with the second press of the button. > These > > values seem to be set but the cc number changes each time (I.e. all sou= nd > > off 37, the next time it will be all sound off 25 and so on). It looks > like > > the Behringer will always send a cc along with the note but I'm not > finding > > where I can determine what note it may be (I'd at least like to send it > > something useless rather than the mess it sending now). > > > > The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confused and I wo= uld > like > > to remedy that. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a11c11d127764d204fa536655 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, the manual does say its sending this CC so its not e= xactly unplanned leakage but I'm not finding where it determines what c= ommand its going to send. =C2=A0Its different on every button although I di= d find the channel its working on.

Kevin


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen &= lt;perboysen@gmail= .com> wrote:
I too had that issue with my FCB boards. In = total I have used three
FCB's and they were all afflicted with random CC# leakage. I dealt
with it by filtering out all MIDI events that I had not assigned to a
specific function. But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-) =C2=A0 The final solution, when my third FCB broke,= was
to buy a Gordius Little Giant instead. This board has not had any
problems like that and it has already saved me money as the FCB's all break after almost exactly three years.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gm= ail.com> wrote:
> So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused t= he longer I
> play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not quite= seeing
> how to solve it. =C2=A0I'm using the FCB to control m=C3=B6bius vi= a notes but the FCB
> also sends a control value along with the second press of the button. = =C2=A0These
> values seem to be set but the cc number changes each time (I.e. all so= und
> off 37, the next time it will be all sound off 25 and so on). =C2=A0It= looks like
> the Behringer will always send a cc along with the note but I'm no= t finding
> where I can determine what note it may be (I'd at least like to se= nd it
> something useless rather than the mess it sending now).
>
> The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confused and I w= ould like
> to remedy that. =C2=A0Any suggestions gratefully accepted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
>




--
= Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
= form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

--001a11c11d127764d204fa536655-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 20:39:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FC83183580; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3zcQ+A35/h9WE+wrXgCfLA)" Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question References: From: bill walker X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-reply-to: Message-id: <7B0A17D1-A54D-45C4-9B7A-32E91EBB2C2A@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:38:03 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHREKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk0dWhxPBBl4c wceexgaGRIcExEKWFwXGQQaBBsbB01OHxgYGBlLBRsdBBsfEgQbHB8EHR4QGx4aHxsRCl5ZF2F ff1hgEQpMRhdsa2sRCkNaFxseGAQYHx4EGx0EGBgYEQpEXhcYEQpCRRd6QBtdfmMcQh1MExEKQ k4Xa0UaUlAeQ1xZXGgRCkJMF2kSXlJZSGR4Em5DEQpCbBdjTEkdWGNGeGtaWhEKQkAXZB9oawF 4XHhkSWARCkJYF21QZ39Ma2lpQhoFEQpwZxdgZ35LRmRyZVgaQBEKcGgXYEdrZ2Z9SUx6YXARC nBoF2JQbX9nT31OT0ddEQpwaBdjf2x4U0AbbgF8SBEKcGgXbHlkUFNyQFJSc2wRCnBoF2EFRRN +AVpFAVMYEQpwZxdjeWNDfBp7fVJGfREKcH8XYUF9bl1zTFNJH2MRCnBfF28Sb2tCQGtcRhNbE QpwfxduSXt4eU57TnB/HhEKcF8XZmZkX29fRWxGf1kRCnBsF25OfUFkQ15bZ0tfEQ== X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-26_03:2014-05-26,2014-05-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405260299 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:39:09 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_3zcQ+A35/h9WE+wrXgCfLA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Have your expression pedals gotten fatigued? They can move slightly just by s= tepping on the pedal vigorously and move the CC point , and they can be and a= re assigned differently for each preset button if memory serves me well whic= h it probably doesn't :) So I would assign then to volume and feedback for e= ach preset to start with=20 Bill Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wr= ote: >=20 > Well, the manual does say its sending this CC so its not exactly unplanned= leakage but I'm not finding where it determines what command its going to s= end. Its different on every button although I did find the channel its work= ing on. >=20 > Kevin >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote:= >> I too had that issue with my FCB boards. In total I have used three >> FCB's and they were all afflicted with random CC# leakage. I dealt >> with it by filtering out all MIDI events that I had not assigned to a >> specific function. But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to >> match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying >> pan" so to say :-) The final solution, when my third FCB broke, was >> to buy a Gordius Little Giant instead. This board has not had any >> problems like that and it has already saved me money as the FCB's all >> break after almost exactly three years. >>=20 >> Greetings from Sweden >>=20 >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >> wrote: >> > So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused th= e longer I >> > play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not quite seei= ng >> > how to solve it. I'm using the FCB to control m=C3=B6bius via notes bu= t the FCB >> > also sends a control value along with the second press of the button. T= hese >> > values seem to be set but the cc number changes each time (I.e. all sou= nd >> > off 37, the next time it will be all sound off 25 and so on). It looks= like >> > the Behringer will always send a cc along with the note but I'm not fin= ding >> > where I can determine what note it may be (I'd at least like to send it= >> > something useless rather than the mess it sending now). >> > >> > The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confused and I wo= uld like >> > to remedy that. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Kevin >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a= >> > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troub= le. >> > >> > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> > >> > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.= >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 --Boundary_(ID_3zcQ+A35/h9WE+wrXgCfLA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Have your expression pedals gotten fat= igued? They can move slightly just by stepping on the pedal vigorously and m= ove the CC point , and they can be and are assigned differently for each pre= set button if memory serves me well which it probably doesn't :)  So I w= ould assign then to volume and feedback for each preset to start with <= /div>
Bill

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 1= :26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <bill= owhead@gmail.com> wrote:

=
Well, the manual does say its sending this CC so its not ex= actly unplanned leakage but I'm not finding where it determines what command= its going to send.  Its different on every button although I did find t= he channel its working on.

Kevin


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen <= ;perboysen@gmail.co= m> wrote:
I too had that issue with my FCB boards. In to= tal I have used three
FCB's and they were all afflicted with random CC# leakage. I dealt
with it by filtering out all MIDI events that I had not assigned to a
specific function. But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-)   The final solution, when my third FCB broke, was to buy a Gordius Little Giant instead. This board has not had any
problems like that and it has already saved me money as the FCB's all
break after almost exactly three years.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com=
http://www.yo= utube.com/perboysen


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gma= il.com> wrote:
> So I keep having trouble with M=C3=B6bius getting seriously confused th= e longer I
> play and I think I may have found the culprit though I'm not quite seei= ng
> how to solve it.  I'm using the FCB to control m=C3=B6bius via not= es but the FCB
> also sends a control value along with the second press of the button. &= nbsp;These
> values seem to be set but the cc number changes each time (I.e. all sou= nd
> off 37, the next time it will be all sound off 25 and so on).  It l= ooks like
> the Behringer will always send a cc along with the note but I'm not fin= ding
> where I can determine what note it may be (I'd at least like to send it=
> something useless rather than the mess it sending now).
>
> The upshot of all this is m=C3=B6bius is getting very confused and I wo= uld like
> to remedy that.  Any suggestions gratefully accepted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a=
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troub= le.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
>




--
T= ill now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
fo= rm. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
=
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

= --Boundary_(ID_3zcQ+A35/h9WE+wrXgCfLA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 20:44:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 732C3183581; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lE09J9PVy2CThUzXuwyhTQ)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-26_03:2014-05-26,2014-05-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405260300 Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question References: From: bill walker X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-reply-to: Message-id: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:43:31 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:44:37 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_lE09J9PVy2CThUzXuwyhTQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2006 , Though I must say I have= eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like an excellent option for M=C3=B6= bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched better than the soft step and is= ready to go for midi notes right out of the box. Anyone using a 12 step on t= his list for Mobius?? Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras w= rote: >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to >> match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying >> pan" so to say :-) >=20 > What an awful controller! Unless your looking for an additional source of= indeterminacy in your music... >=20 > Sylvain --Boundary_(ID_lE09J9PVy2CThUzXuwyhTQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user= since 2006 , Though I must say I have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which see= ms like an excellent option for M=C3=B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps swi= tched better than the soft step  and is ready to go for midi notes righ= t out of the box. Anyone using a 12 step on this list for Mobius??

Se= nt from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras= <sylvain.trombone@gmail.co= m> wrote:


On Mon, May 26, 2= 014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-)

What an awful controller! &n= bsp;Unless your looking for an additional source of indeterminacy in your mu= sic...

= Sylvain
= --Boundary_(ID_lE09J9PVy2CThUzXuwyhTQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 20:56:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68112183580; Mon, 26 May 2014 20:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=25xAfKiFkMzipx2M2G2gmx9wvI1TPovElZyinzlbBrg=; b=ev/2MUUPttxLD6vuXBhtLMR/4Tr5HK719qCTkAlqIkSoBmV6VsPgl4GnfOqMoBY5eS QF5J54kTk1hr7LrceCgx77UgxSRVHFyOiHiWuJLDap/TPdpfT9vGA++Stejg1t9nSsNe Z1U+Sez1zjNbh1EKfeNs4vaa+IEEQAqhhzgYL2RDQqfEyxLbcEDAL6UokHRzwqfW4zJn MAsiFtDFna79bEF+2u+/8ZScVAu21sai39H18MNzipCjYCZnBi1d+Fdq/GE4ZxbCCg8q IGxk3AF9GZZGYIYQ9KBmIIl6+dsfTbx3/Tq73OS4b3LW4Bh6+vXTmT5twzPxaREApKH6 tAIA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.179.80 with SMTP id de16mr12225138oec.69.1401137759414; Mon, 26 May 2014 13:55:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 22:55:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6he0pB.A.1k.Qq6gTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:56:48 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Well, the manual does say its sending this CC so its not exactly unplanned > leakage It is "leakage" because CC's take off even when you have set up a switch to send just a Note-On. Check what CCs are leaked out most often and try to not assign anything to them; or filter out all data you are not using. I spent nine years with FCB's and can not be mistaken on this matter. The norm is that "you get what you pay for" but with the FCB you get some CCs for free too :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 23:00:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEF3D183583; Mon, 26 May 2014 23:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=I57GgiRnMtWmlJzqrHdro3bjcHX59r5+GGw8Tc8Q3XY=; b=Cv6eHxMqD7jPGX7fZV+vZnrJpaLd2W39TFJI42/2VZ7VBzx0f5lJhOM/teVft9n2Fb X0XnzIpLktmYqVL0bND1FNT5tsMT0x0nPD9YxteVavvpQLdYr5yABXS/he1+dKEEnrlz d6nvKeTaUH6qYWkdIEJwQf0XNktjFJrQ4aUooc1AamB/I0jZo3u3MIgqKa5/uN6CNc5+ XMVZ9DPCiHDMPtPHLuLI91Efa9/tCwONVB7O/WoICChhLkbtVhmTn+fNu4U3sgX+YMln XxyRSJD8vp7mBqfxCgkMwD5346m+VVpAVCN6QnhDJPRaHGlIuJj0cAY5TXZG0jrhXlbz wkWg== X-Received: by 10.68.231.35 with SMTP id td3mr31008144pbc.137.1401145195345; Mon, 26 May 2014 15:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-852CDEDB-C938-4223-8F4D-DB6B822435D1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Philip Clevenger X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 15:59:52 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 23:00:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-852CDEDB-C938-4223-8F4D-DB6B822435D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill the 12 step for M=C3=B6bius is a total fail, for me, because there is j= ust no way to program the diamond button config at right to do next/prev loo= p along one axis and next/prev track along the other. I've tried hacks and w= orkarounds and after all that plus corresponding with KMI I am certain that i= t cannot be done, either in first gen or latest. May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, and now I use the 1= 2 step mainly for simple sample triggering. Phil=20 Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker wrote= : >=20 > You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2006 , Though I must say I ha= ve eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like an excellent option for M=C3= =B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched better than the soft step and= is ready to go for midi notes right out of the box. Anyone using a 12 step o= n this list for Mobius?? >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >> On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote:= >>> But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to >>> match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying >>> pan" so to say :-) >>=20 >> What an awful controller! Unless your looking for an additional source o= f indeterminacy in your music... >>=20 >> Sylvain --Apple-Mail-852CDEDB-C938-4223-8F4D-DB6B822435D1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill the 12 step for M=C3=B6bius is a t= otal fail, for me, because there is just no way to program the diamond butto= n config at right to do next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev track al= ong the other. I've tried hacks and workarounds and after all that plus corr= esponding with KMI I am certain that it cannot be done, either in first gen o= r latest.

May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, an= d now I use the 12 step mainly for simple sample triggering.

<= /div>
Phil 


Sent from my iPhone
<= div>
On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:

=
You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user sinc= e 2006 , Though I must say I have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems li= ke an excellent option for M=C3=B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched= better than the soft step  and is ready to go for midi notes right out= of the box. Anyone using a 12 step on this list for Mobius??

Sent fr= om my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras <= sylvain.trombone@gmail.com= > wrote:


On Mon, May 26, 2014 a= t 3:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-)

What an awful controller! &n= bsp;Unless your looking for an additional source of indeterminacy in your mu= sic...

= Sylvain
= --Apple-Mail-852CDEDB-C938-4223-8F4D-DB6B822435D1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 23:01:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DC7F183580; Mon, 26 May 2014 23:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xLsDAY0L1HCC9dneL3abao1E2KxMdYJt9tsJ0+bEum4=; b=aOyobOXllx4AljNwqNnqFfm1x61Hii2K98ML7hahAUf7ablgd3mc87LR3R/4WvvTz3 1dnHN9491lKI2QgyB0qbKO+6GlxXUd8psreYT9t1eXmK89hwI2HSRC3IN24CYigeLAhc Rw58kfF77QFGVyJ1zQEoQ+7RmKWFAv2o5/cLMmveUa2CxgNHLaw1UbafGUa+E7Z7NwXE wxJQGet+NYRDtKe0YQrEUEG/lUMTqYPGp/Q82ulCOPF/UiPBeQkC+ayPO/ghtdpRFCbg 27NGE6DuUcWDhw3GD3NXXnhXtMUTLaTkmtweD9zh8l/DYQ/Lk7JukHVdqWs+pV28Nn3Q G27A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.121.197 with SMTP id lm5mr31720925pab.118.1401145262889; Mon, 26 May 2014 16:01:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 19:01:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e3e44ac5f0704fa558d68 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 23:01:52 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b2e3e44ac5f0704fa558d68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 4:43 PM, bill walker wro= te: > Though I must say I have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like an > excellent option for M=C3=B6bius I'm very happy with mine, it's a great option for sure. Sylvain --047d7b2e3e44ac5f0704fa558d68 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 4:43 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@iclo= ud.com> wrote:
Though I must say I have eyes for a McMillan= 12 step which seems like an excellent option for M=C3=B6bius
<= /div>
I'm very happy with mine, it's a great option for sure.
Sylvain
--047d7b2e3e44ac5f0704fa558d68-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 23:07:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D94E183584; Mon, 26 May 2014 23:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pwfuVA7suHt3X2v52vPEOw)" Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> From: bill walker X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-reply-to: Message-id: <7016D316-9BD3-4D82-AA31-DEEB519E8BF5@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:06:59 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHREKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdGRAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbGRpiTk0dWhxPBBl4c wceexgZGh0eExEKWFwXGQQaBBsbB01OHxgYGBlLBRsdBBsfEgQbHB8EHRkQGx4aHxsRCl5ZF2F ffRhQEQpMRhdsa2sRCkNaFxseGAQYHx4EGx0EGBgYEQpEXhcYEQpCRRd6QBtdfmMcQh1MExEKQ k4Xa0UaUlAeQ1xZXGgRCkJMF2kSXlJZSGR4Em5DEQpCbBdjTEkdWGNGeGtaWhEKQkAXZB9oawF 4XHhkSWARCkJYF21QZ39Ma2lpQhoFEQpwZxduQH5HHEVGemh4fREKcGgXb1IBXEhDR3hTGxIRC nBoF2RNbGtreXhGSHlJEQpwaBdiGG4BeB9gc2FcbREKcGgXZk0bGBhQWRIcUEgRCnBoF2FoH2x beF1ncmRfEQpwZxdoREB/WnNibX9fchEKcGcXY3ljQ3wae31SRn0RCnBsF25OfUFkQ15bZ0tfE Q== X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-26_04:2014-05-26,2014-05-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405260336 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 23:07:58 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_pwfuVA7suHt3X2v52vPEOw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Can't you just program those functions to different buttons on different ban= ks? Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Philip Clevenger w= rote: >=20 > Bill the 12 step for M=C3=B6bius is a total fail, for me, because there is= just no way to program the diamond button config at right to do next/prev l= oop along one axis and next/prev track along the other. I've tried hacks and= workarounds and after all that plus corresponding with KMI I am certain tha= t it cannot be done, either in first gen or latest. >=20 > May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, and now I use the= 12 step mainly for simple sample triggering. >=20 > Phil=20 >=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >> On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker wrot= e: >>=20 >> You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2006 , Though I must say I h= ave eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like an excellent option for M=C3= =B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched better than the soft step and= is ready to go for midi notes right out of the box. Anyone using a 12 step o= n this list for Mobius?? >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >>> On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote= : >>>> But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to >>>> match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying >>>> pan" so to say :-) >>>=20 >>> What an awful controller! Unless your looking for an additional source o= f indeterminacy in your music... >>>=20 >>> Sylvain --Boundary_(ID_pwfuVA7suHt3X2v52vPEOw) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Can't you just program those functions= to different buttons on different banks?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill the 12 step for M=C3=B6bius is a tota= l fail, for me, because there is just no way to program the diamond button c= onfig at right to do next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev track along= the other. I've tried hacks and workarounds and after all that plus corresp= onding with KMI I am certain that it cannot be done, either in first gen or l= atest.

May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, and n= ow I use the 12 step mainly for simple sample triggering.

Phil 


Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:

You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2= 006 , Though I must say I have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like a= n excellent option for M=C3=B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched bet= ter than the soft step  and is ready to go for midi notes right out of t= he box. Anyone using a 12 step on this list for Mobius??

Sent from my= iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> w= rote:


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:4= 5 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-)

What an awful controller! &n= bsp;Unless your looking for an additional source of indeterminacy in your mu= sic...

= Sylvain
= --Boundary_(ID_pwfuVA7suHt3X2v52vPEOw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 23:08:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F68183581; Mon, 26 May 2014 23:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qdT2fDWBC0ho3dl2byd/3dQgmVZNkenSFyAIvZuKIdE=; b=Q9f+k/SzBy+Cb2IbR3GrLHPpNiUhOn7cG2zC5gLdKkaSA3d0y5JCp4ZpIadzDJm672 SF8T2Zpv3aemSphRPABlNm6OTBXJ48YQfyzh5dR2vau6lNEI/2wlbypl4YKLzGlDXw7I i5l27snB5EbQQJ3riNYXicZnW1zTt5wYy41MqJAaSdFzARUg6ueipL9AEZg0wnnc5+q8 DO2an9c/afMeK8ALSeHK/Mes/4zes6g5xLQc7t8MaZh+Tfen7SQ/9UbKKHNfBLxmuIVE JMBKaghTPLKj1kThi0ksJ8/8TaXCVazvuGVyrov9FmyK1jXQilXsNEIrJUlyLPy5PKzc VIGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.201.226 with SMTP id kd2mr31391656pbc.157.1401145672902; Mon, 26 May 2014 16:07:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 19:07:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c37a1caf2704fa55a659 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 23:08:42 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8ff1c37a1caf2704fa55a659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > there is just no way to program the diamond button config at right to do > next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev track along the other. I'm Not sure I got what you're after here, but if the unit is sending messages from those button presses (I don't use them), then you can always repurpose those signals in Bidule, max4live, mobius script or whatever other software you're using. Doesn't quite seem fair to dis the product for not doing something it wasn't designed to do... RTFM? Sylvain --e89a8ff1c37a1caf2704fa55a659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@g= mail.com> wrote:
there is just no way to program the diamond= button config at right to do next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev t= rack along the other.

I'm Not sure I got what you're after here, but if the uni= t is sending messages from those button presses (I don't use them), the= n you can always repurpose those signals in Bidule, max4live, mobius script= or whatever other software you're using.

Doesn't= quite seem fair to dis the product for not doing something it wasn't d= esigned to do... =C2=A0RTFM?

Sylvain
--e89a8ff1c37a1caf2704fa55a659-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 23:13:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D1FA183585; Mon, 26 May 2014 23:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=l+xzoHB7mogEWWNncrLW++yPT9Dci4uo2iuUH7HDpi0=; b=RotbBWpNMhfI+hbFnEr1z3rFb5wJzRg33KuZkZCIK6AFKoqXuvRG0vvn2xMesa9ob+ 7J/q8nsubpROJxAhwRB9YR2BElrRpMpbcIqc/xTDtY5DwsFUO3ePrg1w02WIWixRPn10 AxRmoJTQ0ZWc8eP7ev+EwBEKEyYmHIaV9tBVS0RSw3e0lMiZZgvNG1+LATGdNgQ5LtEC TlXDvykCP/qaHOHi1jkzPar6OTlzjM9tIHryUlq8gJ3YA1Lkq6W41OsY1ma8tep5Nd6t K3+db7ELjsGCTNE++DkEY135fZfh+drzCvp+JtKINp2Y1sHNzPVlhhytiO0ui7WarHIK 21bQ== X-Received: by 10.68.239.137 with SMTP id vs9mr32033088pbc.84.1401145988100; Mon, 26 May 2014 16:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-154EC882-CF7E-4B15-9B52-B5FD7A206597 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Philip Clevenger X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: <7016D316-9BD3-4D82-AA31-DEEB519E8BF5@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:13:05 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4DC9434D-FF89-426A-9C88-53DC4BAC59DB@gmail.com> References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> <7016D316-9BD3-4D82-AA31-DEEB519E8BF5@icloud.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 23:13:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-154EC882-CF7E-4B15-9B52-B5FD7A206597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. But that is not what I wanted to do - I'm using those buttons for other= things. I actually bought it because the diamond config hinted I might be a= ble to lose my boss next/prev switches and add a second axis as well.=20 Boo hoo poor poor pitiful me ;) Phil=20 Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 4:06 PM, bill walker wrote= : >=20 > Can't you just program those functions to different buttons on different b= anks? >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >> On May 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Philip Clevenger w= rote: >>=20 >> Bill the 12 step for M=C3=B6bius is a total fail, for me, because there i= s just no way to program the diamond button config at right to do next/prev l= oop along one axis and next/prev track along the other. I've tried hacks and= workarounds and after all that plus corresponding with KMI I am certain tha= t it cannot be done, either in first gen or latest. >>=20 >> May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, and now I use th= e 12 step mainly for simple sample triggering. >>=20 >> Phil=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >>> On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker wro= te: >>>=20 >>> You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2006 , Though I must say I h= ave eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like an excellent option for M=C3= =B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched better than the soft step and= is ready to go for midi notes right out of the box. Anyone using a 12 step o= n this list for Mobius?? >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>=20 >>>> On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen wrot= e: >>>>> But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to >>>>> match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying >>>>> pan" so to say :-) >>>>=20 >>>> What an awful controller! Unless your looking for an additional source= of indeterminacy in your music... >>>>=20 >>>> Sylvain --Apple-Mail-154EC882-CF7E-4B15-9B52-B5FD7A206597 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes. But that is not what I wanted to d= o - I'm using those buttons for other things. I actually bought it because t= he diamond config hinted I might be able to lose my boss next/prev switches a= nd add a second axis as well. 

Boo hoo poor po= or pitiful me ;)

Phil 

Sent from my iPh= one

On May 26, 2014, at 4:06 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
=
Can't you just program those func= tions to different buttons on different banks?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill the 12 step for M=C3=B6bius is a= total fail, for me, because there is just no way to program the diamond but= ton config at right to do next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev track a= long the other. I've tried hacks and workarounds and after all that plus cor= responding with KMI I am certain that it cannot be done, either in first gen= or latest.

May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, a= nd now I use the 12 step mainly for simple sample triggering.

=
Phil 


Sent from my iPhone
=

On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:

You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user sin= ce 2006 , Though I must say I have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems l= ike an excellent option for M=C3=B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switche= d better than the soft step  and is ready to go for midi notes right ou= t of the box. Anyone using a 12 step on this list for Mobius??

Sent f= rom my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras <= ;sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mon, May 26, 2014= at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-)

What an awful controller! &n= bsp;Unless your looking for an additional source of indeterminacy in your mu= sic...

= Sylvain
= = --Apple-Mail-154EC882-CF7E-4B15-9B52-B5FD7A206597-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 26 23:21:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FDA2183586; Mon, 26 May 2014 23:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=+cXhbVPpHzw/Lzg6CcT8bK6Lwggqxp1u0i/OuiTd/Us=; b=J4XzqEZQkNZXxfANEodnUO6QPCIo0WOpp8B8WjjfGFz19BYzvYbDKKEQ8S6Qhf3EWo f14wImrL831gueyUHq8DHGcihwKqmEhDqvl7Qhi1SHg+GweILmjRKTgJ9NhpSpVLUklu UDzwfGqlRIkcNYchMYoaT6iWON3MzR7DoD6BFaoQ4iXug8PhEhSgLCmeCwbcb2d+x9Ts bwJgtUUDluTal/UGcAjCFU2fKPyRdv+WMClWtLhwaBU1RInnDomoSSobXHtPoPkBl9qf EzDcBzrimBcn12VbMcY/NSbX1xlLgTYZpxeWxyuay90quSldA/Um+ZWkhlajEe3jj684 4WBQ== X-Received: by 10.66.197.135 with SMTP id iu7mr30783578pac.149.1401146419782; Mon, 26 May 2014 16:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-A5A39344-19A5-4E27-BE91-9C05A50F10F4 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Philip Clevenger X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:20:18 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <69B47D93-559C-42B5-9410-9FFBA7C565FE@gmail.com> References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 23:21:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-A5A39344-19A5-4E27-BE91-9C05A50F10F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Sylvan but RTFM is a bit presumptuous. Been there done that. You are r= ight it clearly was not designed to do what I would like it to do, and that'= s why I said it's a fail *for me* only. =20 I have pursued the avenues you've suggested to no avail. Maybe it's still my= fault but beyond a certain level of complexity it obviates the point of the= device in the first place. If you decide to take the time that I have, and you succeed in getting the u= nit to do what I've wanted it to, then good on you, and I'll happily apologi= ze. Right after you send me your data file ;) Love, Phil :) Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Sylvain Poitras w= rote: >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >> there is just no way to program the diamond button config at right to do n= ext/prev loop along one axis and next/prev track along the other. >=20 > I'm Not sure I got what you're after here, but if the unit is sending mess= ages from those button presses (I don't use them), then you can always repur= pose those signals in Bidule, max4live, mobius script or whatever other soft= ware you're using. >=20 > Doesn't quite seem fair to dis the product for not doing something it wasn= 't designed to do... RTFM? >=20 > Sylvain --Apple-Mail-A5A39344-19A5-4E27-BE91-9C05A50F10F4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Sylvan but RTFM is a bit presump= tuous. Been there done that. You are right it clearly was not designed to do= what I would like it to do, and that's why I said it's a fail *for me* only= .  

I have pursued the avenues you've sug= gested to no avail. Maybe it's still my fault but beyond a certain level of c= omplexity it obviates the point of the device in the first place.
=
If you decide to take the time that I have, and you succeed i= n getting the unit to do what I've wanted it to, then good on you, and I'll h= appily apologize. Right after you send me your data file ;)

Love,

Phil :)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ph= ilip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
there is just no way to program the diamond b= utton config at right to do next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev trac= k along the other.

I'm Not sure I got what you're after here, but if the unit is send= ing messages from those button presses (I don't use them), then you can alwa= ys repurpose those signals in Bidule, max4live, mobius script or whatever ot= her software you're using.

Doesn't quit= e seem fair to dis the product for not doing something it wasn't designed to= do...  RTFM?

Sylvain
= --Apple-Mail-A5A39344-19A5-4E27-BE91-9C05A50F10F4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 00:01:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E806B183580; Tue, 27 May 2014 00:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7m/YKQMpDyejXnlvaTDRD5v66ICjJ5zz1mVEtZht6GI=; b=mujrzKBPQ0VEi6EqRT5Dbdf/lDPV5Ty4dUdEcVqlpXOVn0cIYUq6FeKcjh/zf3aUQQ 4pyPXBIeM+ccRFPDvFFz9fzglBKH8Gk79byUxdbdblf/awDoIxKOPXRM0ojDSduGZrmx yMU1J7myIxW6QAeqxZuQicp/LrTwBWOYLyi1plzRE+LchXPcub01m63c4O7PKQWhzZq3 I0Jg/LuvSnNvvuJFZoSo7s6WdQjenFdmvFuGdC1JJTKzGcQRXmS+8t032KaEpl3jFvjO og3fFfRyNeKCANcc6vZFpPl5fYElxktsWYOQ1vGJ+vU9pmX5Sybta7g/Q43Vjh9p58Xv z5/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.201.226 with SMTP id kd2mr31619660pbc.157.1401148828689; Mon, 26 May 2014 17:00:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <69B47D93-559C-42B5-9410-9FFBA7C565FE@gmail.com> References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> <69B47D93-559C-42B5-9410-9FFBA7C565FE@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:00:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c37a362b0f04fa5662eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 00:01:17 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8ff1c37a362b0f04fa5662eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > Sorry Sylvan but RTFM is a bit presumptuous. Been there done that. You are > right it clearly was not designed to do what I would like it to do Sorry Phil, that seems contradictory to me. If you've read the manual and are aware of the functionality of the unit, finding it at fault for not providing something beyond its specifications is kinda odd. In any case, I'd be happy to help get it to do what you want. Send me an email explaining the desired functionality and describing your system (OS, softwares) and I'll see what can be done. I love solving problems. Sylvain --e89a8ff1c37a362b0f04fa5662eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@g= mail.com> wrote:
Sorry Sylvan but RTFM is a bit presumptuous.= Been there done that. You are right it clearly was not designed to do what= I would like it to do

Sorry Phil, =C2=A0that seems contradictory to me. =C2=A0If you= 9;ve read the manual and are aware of the functionality of the unit, findin= g it at fault for not providing something beyond its specifications is kind= a odd.

In any case= , I'd be happy to help get it to do what you want. =C2=A0Send me an ema= il explaining the desired functionality and describing your system (OS, sof= twares) and I'll see what can be done. =C2=A0I love solving problems.

Sylvain
--e89a8ff1c37a362b0f04fa5662eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 00:10:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC490183581; Tue, 27 May 2014 00:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nbKv/haz2zO5xoOHhiFWS/kwi/KecHpQ5RMkPxvO/qY=; b=Mms015uW8i/5cuVp8xFEG7huWbhyI+TTJsBZtMtdam2gPtYtj44BF3nY7EhbDlvVMW V1y/MHuCAiSitEz6zoW5sXwGVPi1CU1Od5MQvsulMfxNyxE/d8Zo/abGm0vARDizV737 BZ1BLM1fzMAv0TqhC4RhPM7Y/Q5U9oJslNW7U/7UagxaO7SoaiU/mkDZZ4MqxmUimydV xF7ouc6jz5JeKfKFpXrCdwn7WfWoPYlxVkIL6PLGp1jKdLXspBO6woXbE7wZw9CtK+UZ pENsfz6ig0GgqQEzOUaOwI4cosm7nraxkg++zb4nVDnYDabgegq/I/biWaGWeAZMuJGJ obhw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.69.19.139 with SMTP id gu11mr31483579pbd.36.1401149386517; Mon, 26 May 2014 17:09:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:09:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136737475f4b704fa568308 Resent-Message-ID: <_N0Oa.A.kBE.7f9gTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 00:10:35 +0000 (UTC) --001a1136737475f4b704fa568308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > no way to program the diamond button config at right Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step... The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is another beast entirely. Sylvain --001a1136737475f4b704fa568308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@g= mail.com> wrote:
no way to program the diamond button config = at right

Reading this again, it strikes me that you&#= 39;re probably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step...

The softste= p seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is anothe= r beast entirely.

Sylvain
--001a1136737475f4b704fa568308-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 00:45:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEE03183580; Tue, 27 May 2014 00:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0gl9BNNRS2Szse6FNj232w)" From: bill walker Message-id: <7B0A6D8F-FB79-4CF9-8628-1D1124CFAFE1@icloud.com> Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:44:27 -0700 References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> <7016D316-9BD3-4D82-AA31-DEEB519E8BF5@icloud.com> <4DC9434D-FF89-426A-9C88-53DC4BAC59DB@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <4DC9434D-FF89-426A-9C88-53DC4BAC59DB@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaGBEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk0ZBB1/chl4c wceeBoaHh5wHhEKWFwXGQQaBBsbB01OHxgYGBlLBRsdBBsfEgQbHB8EHR4QGx4aHxsRCl5ZF2F fc3llEQpMRhdsa2sRCkNaFxseGAQYHx4EGx0EGBgYEQpCRRd6QBtdfmMcQh1MExEKQk4Xa0UaU lAeQ1xZXGgRCkJMF2kSXlJZSGR4Em5DEQpCbBdjTEkdWGNGeGtaWhEKQkAXZB9oawF4XHhkSWA RCkJYF21QZ39Ma2lpQhoFEQpwZxduQH5HHEVGemh4fREKcGgXYhhuAXgfYHNhXG0RCnBoF2hOe VpIH0hrSE9AEQpwaBd6UhwbQ0VTfhhlYREKcGgXZkNfUn1beW4YaWURCnBoF2FoH2xbeF1ncmR fEQpwZxdoREB/WnNibX9fchEKcGcXY3ljQ3wae31SRn0RCnBsF25OfUFkQ15bZ0tfEQ== X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-26_04:2014-05-26,2014-05-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405270010 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 00:45:25 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_0gl9BNNRS2Szse6FNj232w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The way I see it, if I can get at 12 notes on one bank, that is the same = as I can have with my Gordius without having to add a two button = momentary switch, is that much true.? I am used to toggling banks and = not having every function I use on one bank, so that is no issue for me, = the biggest issue is latency and Im getting the impression there isn't = an issue with the 12 step.=20 Bill On May 26, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Philip Clevenger = wrote: > Yes. But that is not what I wanted to do - I'm using those buttons for = other things. I actually bought it because the diamond config hinted I = might be able to lose my boss next/prev switches and add a second axis = as well.=20 >=20 > Boo hoo poor poor pitiful me ;) >=20 > Phil=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On May 26, 2014, at 4:06 PM, bill walker = wrote: >=20 >> Can't you just program those functions to different buttons on = different banks? >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >> On May 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Philip Clevenger = wrote: >>=20 >>> Bill the 12 step for M=F6bius is a total fail, for me, because there = is just no way to program the diamond button config at right to do = next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev track along the other. I've = tried hacks and workarounds and after all that plus corresponding with = KMI I am certain that it cannot be done, either in first gen or latest. >>>=20 >>> May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, and now I = use the 12 step mainly for simple sample triggering. >>>=20 >>> Phil=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>=20 >>> On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2006 , Though I must = say I have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like an excellent = option for M=F6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched better than = the soft step and is ready to go for midi notes right out of the box. = Anyone using a 12 step on this list for Mobius?? >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>=20 >>>> On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen = wrote: >>>>> But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to >>>>> match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying >>>>> pan" so to say :-) >>>>>=20 >>>>> What an awful controller! Unless your looking for an additional = source of indeterminacy in your music... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sylvain --Boundary_(ID_0gl9BNNRS2Szse6FNj232w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The = way I see it, if I can get at 12 notes on one bank, that is the same as = I can have with my Gordius without having to add a  two button = momentary switch,  is that much true.? I am used to toggling banks = and not having every function I use on one bank, so that is no issue for = me, the biggest issue is latency and Im getting the impression there = isn't an issue with the 12 step. 
Bill
On May 26, = 2014, at 4:13 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> = wrote:

Yes. But that is not what I = wanted to do - I'm using those buttons for other things. I actually = bought it because the diamond config hinted I might be able to lose my = boss next/prev switches and add a second axis as = well. 

Boo hoo poor poor pitiful me = ;)

Phil 

Sent from my = iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 4:06 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com>= ; wrote:

Can't you just program those functions to = different buttons on different banks?

Sent from my = iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Philip Clevenger = <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> = wrote:

Bill the 12 step for M=F6bius is a total fail, for = me, because there is just no way to program the diamond button config at = right to do next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev track along the = other. I've tried hacks and workarounds and after all that plus = corresponding with KMI I am certain that it cannot be done, either in = first gen or latest.

May not be a deal breaker for you but it = sure is for me, and now I use the 12 step mainly for simple sample = triggering.

Phil 

<= br>Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill = walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com>= ; wrote:

You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2006 = , Though I must say I have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like = an excellent option for M=F6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched = better than the soft step  and is ready to go for midi notes right = out of the box. Anyone using a 12 step on this list for = Mobius??

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at = 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:


On Mon, May 26, = 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
But it could happen that a = leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-)

What an awful = controller!  Unless your looking for an additional source of = indeterminacy in your music...

Sylvain
=

= --Boundary_(ID_0gl9BNNRS2Szse6FNj232w)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 00:55:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF86C183582; Tue, 27 May 2014 00:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=flbIsHUE50DujzJ+hDhNePutqQsI5AZYvAAhNY+U+m8=; b=iPCqn8XkRpQIg4rjsW+Zeqxu7ajS4WlFY6ocoi18ZCfoD/y8HC99ekvpLvWFOm7ezv juged8dlG5AlWqZPKPqnXcKNQhZ0FeC4zlOMBEfs5oKk3tjkTXXK8acpPD+B50xS9385 U3a1U7WT25TyToOYeoPXI9zkNnS/Qr+/SBmx8nmVfr9WOHwVk1aKI7YAjngJDH+Sxdqt Iqd2s04bc3EB8ljq+es4udJ4H46RZNI0LHJ6wLud57BVXJVaUQ2qmMkKZ2Saq2N6iYO5 1NPjz7wfAbqzUMBSOacCSYwW9RtUy9cHfftW10sGBueioiBdC3BPsI2XGLWDQHYItSk/ Tk1Q== X-Received: by 10.66.66.108 with SMTP id e12mr31842960pat.35.1401152076403; Mon, 26 May 2014 17:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BFAACB99-883E-4583-90D3-0D5758A45F13 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Philip Clevenger X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:54:34 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 00:55:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-BFAACB99-883E-4583-90D3-0D5758A45F13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Goddammit Sylvan you are exactly right - ha ! Indeed I am talking about the s= oft step. In fact I've been considering a 12 step as an alternative, just fe= ll low on my priority list lately. Apologies for misleading our dear readers= :) As for contradiction, no, there is really none. Just because something is no= t expressly supported or forbidden in a manual, does not mean something is p= ossible or impossible. Manuals are lamentably incomplete if they exist at al= l these days, the tools complex, and on this list more than most places we a= ll push past the stated limits to see what we can find there :).=20 Phil=20 Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras w= rote: >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >> no way to program the diamond button config at right >=20 > Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the s= oftstep rather than the 12 step... >=20 > The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 st= ep is another beast entirely. >=20 > Sylvain --Apple-Mail-BFAACB99-883E-4583-90D3-0D5758A45F13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Goddammit Sylvan you are exactly right= - ha ! Indeed I am talking about the soft step. In fact I've been consideri= ng a 12 step as an alternative, just fell low on my priority list lately. Ap= ologies for misleading our dear readers :)

As for c= ontradiction, no, there is really none. Just because something is not expres= sly supported or forbidden in a manual, does not mean something is possible o= r impossible. Manuals are lamentably incomplete if they exist at all these d= ays, the tools complex, and on this list more than most places we all push p= ast the stated limits to see what we can find there :). 

=
Phil 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 20= 14, at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil= .clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
no way to program the diamond button config at= right

Reading this again, it strikes me that you're p= robably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step...

The softstep= seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is another b= east entirely.

Sylvain
= --Apple-Mail-BFAACB99-883E-4583-90D3-0D5758A45F13-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 00:56:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B380B183548; Tue, 27 May 2014 00:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=bKpV+sJIRF+qiR8PK6enJ6dQkpt0/pvxReIngWnwHYI=; b=lw1/e39N3GPNrzN3LDQIYx3j8aTZ25xetXss98Y6CO8jaPrG8SPfT821w22xO74cqi k7uJXzS+amrr5WMfJnZRzCWwKhIKmqiJfOhIfIi50SVv93wp4jc9Ajos1T9n2pU9VFXQ mxDMizM0muXKHh7zr00HCJy2dr25Cvx08IT0fZS50Kh2IeE4VgolJeWFiOPcH8Ss0d0J tw88AcEV95YKLDutH9L4fHxg2QOm9NVe4lhasietq/fis1/2IFZmjg/ZPW7kL+NtxVJl LlGa3f7gUX+AQWiljj4Je0gWazbKfPqr/uTdt3BGtlnn+SUksDz/j0BSW6h2gxF9M/qD 87Xg== X-Received: by 10.66.179.111 with SMTP id df15mr31865310pac.52.1401152155480; Mon, 26 May 2014 17:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5D9482AA-3765-421C-8CF2-EBCF34F64E6D Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Philip Clevenger X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:55:53 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 00:56:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5D9482AA-3765-421C-8CF2-EBCF34F64E6D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RTFM =3D read the fucking mail ;) Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Philip Clevenger w= rote: >=20 > Goddammit Sylvan you are exactly right - ha ! Indeed I am talking about th= e soft step. In fact I've been considering a 12 step as an alternative, just= fell low on my priority list lately. Apologies for misleading our dear read= ers :) >=20 > As for contradiction, no, there is really none. Just because something is n= ot expressly supported or forbidden in a manual, does not mean something is p= ossible or impossible. Manuals are lamentably incomplete if they exist at al= l these days, the tools complex, and on this list more than most places we a= ll push past the stated limits to see what we can find there :).=20 >=20 > Phil=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >> On May 26, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >>> no way to program the diamond button config at right >>=20 >> Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the s= oftstep rather than the 12 step... >>=20 >> The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 s= tep is another beast entirely. >>=20 >> Sylvain --Apple-Mail-5D9482AA-3765-421C-8CF2-EBCF34F64E6D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
RTFM =3D read the fucking mail ;)
<= br>Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Philip Cle= venger <phil.clevenger@gmail.= com> wrote:

Goddammit S= ylvan you are exactly right - ha ! Indeed I am talking about the soft step. I= n fact I've been considering a 12 step as an alternative, just fell low on m= y priority list lately. Apologies for misleading our dear readers :)

As for contradiction, no, there is really none. Just becau= se something is not expressly supported or forbidden in a manual, does not m= ean something is possible or impossible. Manuals are lamentably incomplete i= f they exist at all these days, the tools complex, and on this list more tha= n most places we all push past the stated limits to see what we can find the= re :). 

Phil 

Sent from my iPhone<= /div>

On May 26, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, P= hilip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
no way to program the diamond button config at= right

Reading this again, it strikes me that you're p= robably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step...

The softstep= seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is another b= east entirely.

Sylvain
= --Apple-Mail-5D9482AA-3765-421C-8CF2-EBCF34F64E6D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 01:00:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F01ED183545; Tue, 27 May 2014 01:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_z24aF6dRNe9faaPvB2pR6A)" Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> From: bill walker X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-reply-to: Message-id: <518EB607-203C-4767-94E4-7A6F2BB0BF33@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:59:48 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHREKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk0dWhxPBBl4c wceeBoaHxNZEQpYXBcZBBoEGxsHTU4fGBgYGUsFGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHhofGxEKXlkXYV9 zTUYRCkxGF2xraxEKQ1oXGx4YBBgfHgQbHQQYGBgRCkReFxgRCkJFF3pAG11+YxxCHUwTEQpCT hdrRRpSUB5DXFlcaBEKQkwXaRJeUllIZHgSbkMRCkJsF2NMSR1YY0Z4a1paEQpCQBdkH2hrAXh ceGRJYBEKQlgXbVBnf0xraWlCGgURCnBnF2hEQH9ac2Jtf19yEQpwaBdhYnpaZlh5Hx9CWREKc GgXb2wFG1xcT29GcBwRCnBoF21HHVxEcHJ/eUYfEQpwaBdhAV0SfUtsfltGSBEKcGgXaGRZBUR dc0NPTkwRCnBnF25AfkccRUZ6aHh9EQpwbBduTn1BZENeW2dLXxE= X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-26_05:2014-05-26,2014-05-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405270013 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 01:00:52 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_z24aF6dRNe9faaPvB2pR6A) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hilarious!!! I should have started another thread WTF are we talkin bout here? I'm talkin bout the 12 step Baby, yeah! Sorry to commandeer the FCB thread Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > > >> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >> no way to program the diamond button config at right > > Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step... > > The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is another beast entirely. > > Sylvain --Boundary_(ID_z24aF6dRNe9faaPvB2pR6A) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hilarious!!! I should have started another thread WTF are we talkin bout here?  I'm talkin bout the 12 step Baby, yeah! Sorry to commandeer the FCB thread 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
no way to program the diamond button config at right

Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step...

The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is another beast entirely.

Sylvain
--Boundary_(ID_z24aF6dRNe9faaPvB2pR6A)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 01:01:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9C9A183580; Tue, 27 May 2014 01:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=trpry27eMbQFZxhr/gG0NZgs1/DeDEwzaV9K4qJMK24=; b=IgWlykUxGcNvV3MGUSJaGuNyRWW7yZu62Yqh5kgsMc2v5xmXx3aVI81SHTTpyTmxsu iGcnyNsPyxxShKFojYpki7y6QN+r9cX7ys7RjJacbkuZ/gxC5SVrDRJ/SnwYWnqvg9WW tUWfXC252zR3C69K7z1U2JzxBiHl8cprEjnL06iSzUJAimfQeqSKKrBXjlHXXh4A8rt5 NWXuBLs8WSMaiSl16JVTKkg3G/bOvQlo/zNNIFC9mfWIAB2ddg6DC6fr4zBsXDt3/a9Z wUZC5ryGBY0ZaWWVZxn/sZ7JMz2g/X5AHBmj/g2PBudPoUVJjJyvZhj04vpMJJgD+1Cw sLIQ== X-Received: by 10.66.66.108 with SMTP id e12mr31869728pat.35.1401152433420; Mon, 26 May 2014 18:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4C20EB11-DA8F-480D-9DB0-D0E6E3819878 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Philip Clevenger X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: <7B0A6D8F-FB79-4CF9-8628-1D1124CFAFE1@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 18:00:31 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5741A7C7-C042-4867-817B-FA29AA1A5619@gmail.com> References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> <7016D316-9BD3-4D82-AA31-DEEB519E8BF5@icloud.com> <4DC9434D-FF89-426A-9C88-53DC4BAC59DB@gmail.com> <7B0A6D8F-FB79-4CF9-8628-1D1124CFAFE1@icloud.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <9MDg2B.A.__E.iP-gTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 01:01:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4C20EB11-DA8F-480D-9DB0-D0E6E3819878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes Bill that should be true. I think, assuming the thing is sufficiently pr= ogrammable, you would be trading some of the deep programmability of the Gor= dius for the portability of the 12-step. I'll be looking forward to your review :) Phil Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 5:44 PM, bill walker wrote= : >=20 > The way I see it, if I can get at 12 notes on one bank, that is the same a= s I can have with my Gordius without having to add a two button momentary s= witch, is that much true.? I am used to toggling banks and not having every= function I use on one bank, so that is no issue for me, the biggest issue i= s latency and Im getting the impression there isn't an issue with the 12 ste= p.=20 > Bill >> On May 26, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Philip Clevenger w= rote: >>=20 >> Yes. But that is not what I wanted to do - I'm using those buttons for ot= her things. I actually bought it because the diamond config hinted I might b= e able to lose my boss next/prev switches and add a second axis as well.=20 >>=20 >> Boo hoo poor poor pitiful me ;) >>=20 >> Phil=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >>> On May 26, 2014, at 4:06 PM, bill walker wro= te: >>>=20 >>> Can't you just program those functions to different buttons on different= banks? >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>=20 >>>> On May 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Bill the 12 step for M=C3=B6bius is a total fail, for me, because there= is just no way to program the diamond button config at right to do next/pre= v loop along one axis and next/prev track along the other. I've tried hacks a= nd workarounds and after all that plus corresponding with KMI I am certain t= hat it cannot be done, either in first gen or latest. >>>>=20 >>>> May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, and now I use t= he 12 step mainly for simple sample triggering. >>>>=20 >>>> Phil=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>=20 >>>>> On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker w= rote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2006 , Though I must say I= have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like an excellent option for M= =C3=B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched better than the soft step a= nd is ready to go for midi notes right out of the box. Anyone using a 12 ste= p on this list for Mobius?? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per Boysen wr= ote: >>>>>>> But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to >>>>>>> match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying >>>>>>> pan" so to say :-) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> What an awful controller! Unless your looking for an additional sour= ce of indeterminacy in your music... >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Sylvain >=20 --Apple-Mail-4C20EB11-DA8F-480D-9DB0-D0E6E3819878 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes Bill that should be true. I think,= assuming the thing is sufficiently programmable, you would be trading some o= f the deep programmability of the Gordius for the portability of the 12-step= .

I'll be looking forward to your review :)

= Phil

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 5:4= 4 PM, bill walker <wildbillw= alker@icloud.com> wrote:

= The way I see it, if I can get at 12 notes on one bank, that is the same as= I can have with my Gordius without having to add a  two button momenta= ry switch,  is that much true.? I am used to toggling banks and not hav= ing every function I use on one bank, so that is no issue for me, the bigges= t issue is latency and Im getting the impression there isn't an issue with t= he 12 step. 
Bill
On May 26, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Philip C= levenger <phil.clevenger@gmai= l.com> wrote:

Yes. But that is not what I wanted to do= - I'm using those buttons for other things. I actually bought it because th= e diamond config hinted I might be able to lose my boss next/prev switches a= nd add a second axis as well. 

Boo hoo poor po= or pitiful me ;)

Phil 

Sent from my iPh= one

On May 26, 2014, at 4:06 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
=
Can't you just program those functions= to different buttons on different banks?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill the 12 step for M=C3=B6bius is a total fa= il, for me, because there is just no way to program the diamond button confi= g at right to do next/prev loop along one axis and next/prev track along the= other. I've tried hacks and workarounds and after all that plus correspondi= ng with KMI I am certain that it cannot be done, either in first gen or late= st.

May not be a deal breaker for you but it sure is for me, and now I= use the 12 step mainly for simple sample triggering.

Phil 


Sent from my iPhone
On May 26, 2014, at 1:43 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:

You got that right! Happy GORDIUS user since 2006 , Tho= ugh I must say I have eyes for a McMillan 12 step which seems like an excell= ent option for M=C3=B6bius Control, I like the 12 steps switched better than= the soft step  and is ready to go for midi notes right out of the box.= Anyone using a 12 step on this list for Mobius??

Sent from my iPhone=

On May 26, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Per B= oysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
But it could happen that a leaked CC happened to
match an assigned function, so I was always "playing in the frying
pan" so to say :-)

What an awful controller! &n= bsp;Unless your looking for an additional source of indeterminacy in your mu= sic...

= Sylvain

= --Apple-Mail-4C20EB11-DA8F-480D-9DB0-D0E6E3819878-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 01:16:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C215018357F; Tue, 27 May 2014 01:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_plUQhH6Qimtgle2FIip1oQ)" From: bill walker Message-id: <3A5C3FC3-1196-4501-B945-01D008A89D8C@icloud.com> Subject: Was: FCB 1010 Question, Is: 12 step Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 18:15:39 -0700 References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> <518EB607-203C-4767-94E4-7A6F2BB0BF33@icloud.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <518EB607-203C-4767-94E4-7A6F2BB0BF33@icloud.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHxEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdGxAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbGxpiTk0caBl1Whl4c wceeBobGx9PEhEKWFwXGQQaBBsbB01OHxgYGBlLBRsdBBsfEgQbHB8EHRsQGx4aHxsRCl5ZF2F fc1xyEQpMRhdsa2sRCkNaFxseGAQYHx4EGx0EGBgYEQpCRRd6QBtdfmMcQh1MExEKQk4Xa0UaU lAeQ1xZXGgRCkJMF2kSXlJZSGR4Em5DEQpCbBdjTEkdWGNGeGtaWhEKQkAXZH5SGm8TYl9jQEc RCkJYF21QZ39Ma2lpQhoFEQpwZxdoREB/WnNibX9fchEKcGgXb3pbYF9yTGhpHHsRCnBoF21HH VxEcHJ/eUYfEQpwaBdvUEFmbE9PWl1ZeREKcGgXaU9sblAFRkx7En8RCnBoF2wSXWZtW2N+Z00 bEQpwZxduQH5HHEVGemh4fREKcGwXbk59QWRDXltnS18R X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-26_05:2014-05-26,2014-05-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405270017 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 01:16:47 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_plUQhH6Qimtgle2FIip1oQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Im still trying to figure out how to pay for one :) I am definitely interested though, the size ,weight, silent switch, aspects are very appealing for not driven programs or possible foot triggered bass notes. On May 26, 2014, at 5:59 PM, bill walker wrote: > Hilarious!!! I should have started another thread WTF are we talkin bout here? I'm talkin bout the 12 step Baby, yeah! Sorry to commandeer the FCB thread > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 26, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > >> >> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >> no way to program the diamond button config at right >> >> Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step... >> >> The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is another beast entirely. >> >> Sylvain --Boundary_(ID_plUQhH6Qimtgle2FIip1oQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Im = still trying to figure out how to pay for one :)  I am definitely = interested though, the size ,weight, silent switch, aspects are very = appealing for not driven programs or possible foot triggered bass = notes.
On May 26, 2014, at 5:59 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com>= ; wrote:

Hilarious!!! I should have = started another thread WTF are we talkin bout here?  I'm talkin = bout the 12 step Baby, yeah! Sorry to commandeer the FCB = thread 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, = at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:


On Mon, May 26, = 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
no way to program the = diamond button config at right

Reading this again, = it strikes me that you're probably talking about the softstep rather = than the 12 step...

The = softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step = is another beast entirely.

Sylvain

= --Boundary_(ID_plUQhH6Qimtgle2FIip1oQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 01:30:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 197A118357F; Tue, 27 May 2014 01:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xY2//060Kj0XfupTUkJjcFXb+A2qYKZ71QTF9hsWM6g=; b=OX2DwaMQmiIYOvsd75LrRppCssr7Ab8pah1sQMXKJjsEaWraHn5CMmIHULEjimrktD GGTuklQFop0rgdAd1NdsfhFhgFif8dwm0yMOqhyU7xCCQfqOerXS56bv6V5lWBSC+LHL eeHNjpoaYUksg0o1V3nFgHTVScho9ycs8wQJ71oBZqOJUgmPiRXShLqO/XX/13nVQW1p JRDZQD6qocnejPyV1ZDHzSVr5FXyA/k+fGwJwz6SNp8konQyz7vDHguV83vMXazHlTBN myWr7J+YNLUDtOQ3VoDtI0Tj0Ep5M1QRAzen3f2oil5mLI49TKHM5mRtnmsZuiwPtKuI jMCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.240.34 with SMTP id vx2mr32455026pbc.1.1401154152791; Mon, 26 May 2014 18:29:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7B0A6D8F-FB79-4CF9-8628-1D1124CFAFE1@icloud.com> References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> <7016D316-9BD3-4D82-AA31-DEEB519E8BF5@icloud.com> <4DC9434D-FF89-426A-9C88-53DC4BAC59DB@gmail.com> <7B0A6D8F-FB79-4CF9-8628-1D1124CFAFE1@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 21:29:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b339d118d840f04fa579f2d Resent-Message-ID: <-YdWuD.A.nhF.aq-gTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 01:30:02 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b339d118d840f04fa579f2d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:44 PM, bill walker wro= te: > if I can get at 12 notes on one bank You have 13 notes per preset on the 12step. To switch presets you need to press and hold SELECT, release it then press ENTER, and navigate up and down with d# and f# to select the preset decade (the x part of xxy). You complete the preset number pressing of the numbered pads (0-9). from the manual: For Example: To move to preset 26. Press the Enter Key while in select mode and use the -10 or the +10 key pads to increment or decrement through preset decades until you see =E2=80=9C02_=E2=80=9D on the display. Then hit key 6 and you=E2=80=99ll= be taken out of select mode and into preset 26. The next time you go to change a preset you=E2=80=99ll already b= e in the 20s decade so if you=E2=80=99re going to another preset in the 20s you can just step on t= he numbered key for the last digit. I don't personally use presets, but this sounds like It could take some getting used to, unless you stick to a single decade (10 presets). If you do, you can skip the ENTER key and the decade navigation and simply hit the pad corresponding to the preset you want, once you're in select mode. Latency is not an issue with the 12step, however, you should really try the pads before you buy. It feels very different from the hard clicking switches you are used to and may prove too difficult of a transition. I can't play it with shoes, I never know whether or not I'm hitting the pads. Sylvain --047d7b339d118d840f04fa579f2d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:44 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@iclo= ud.com> wrote:
if I can get at 12 notes on one bank
You have 13 notes per preset on the 12step. =C2=A0To switch presets you nee= d to press and hold SELECT, release it then press ENTER, and navigate up an= d down with d# and f# to select the preset decade (the x part of xxy). =C2= =A0You complete the preset number pressing of the numbered pads (0-9).

from the ma= nual:

= For Example: To move to preset 26. Press the Enter Key while in select mode= and use=C2=A0
the -10 or the +10 key pads to increment or decr= ement through preset decades until you=C2=A0
see =E2=80=9C02_=E2=80=9D on the display. Then hit key 6 and you=E2=80=99= ll be taken out of select mode and into=C2=A0
preset 26. The next time you go to change a pres= et you=E2=80=99ll already be in the 20s decade so=C2=A0
if you=E2=80=99re going to another preset in the 20s you can j= ust step on the numbered key for the=C2=A0
last digit.

=

I don= 't personally use presets, but this sounds like It could take some gett= ing used to, unless you stick to a single decade (10 presets). =C2=A0If you= do, you can skip the ENTER key and the decade navigation and simply hit th= e pad corresponding to the preset you want, once you're in select mode.=

Latency is = not an issue with the 12step, however, you should really try the pads befor= e you buy. =C2=A0It feels very different from the hard clicking switches yo= u are used to and may prove too difficult of a transition. =C2=A0I can'= t play it with shoes, I never know whether or not I'm hitting the pads.=

Sylvain=C2= =A0
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On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
Goddammit Sylvan you are exactly right

Great, I'll stop reading there ;)
Sylvain
--047d7beb9a14dfbae304fa57a1d8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 01:38:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B52D18357F; Tue, 27 May 2014 01:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 742 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Tue, 27 May 2014 01:38:36 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Z+JImuDucJXkMkUCDim8itZnEDVN+n8vKQn5vyew6mK8oEzp1z7NCdAmLJTNWfTr; h=Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Message-Id:Date:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: David P Coffin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D02D7096-7165-4948-9D79-DCE7B42A1EF0" Subject: Ethos Overdrive for sale Message-Id: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 18:24:26 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79e68a74048448c73178ea29e0093e2d97350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.52.147 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 01:38:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_D02D7096-7165-4948-9D79-DCE7B42A1EF0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, loopers. Before I take this to ebay, I thought I'd give you all a crack at my = VERY little used 2013 Ethos stomp box.=20 http://www.customtonesinc.com/EthosPreamp.html It's got the TLE/Classic Switch, but none of the new-for-2014 options. = I'd hoped it might rekindle my languishing guitar playing but other = factors interfered, so after a brief happy testing period when it = arrived last July (maybe 6 hours max...?) it's just been sitting idle in = its box ever since...making me feel bad for it. It'll probably post at ebay with a buy it now of $425 plus shipping = (fits in a medium Flat Rate Priority box IIRC; I've got all the original = packaging and papers), but I'd rather it go to looper for some reason, = so I welcome offers and will hold off for a week or two. Thanks! David 1096 Winchuck River Road Brookings, OR 97415-9384 541-813-1581 Recent ebay history on the thing: = http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_itemId=3D150228031111&_nkw=3DETHOS+Overd= rive+TLE&LH_Complete=3D1&LH_Sold=3D1&rt=3Dnc http://eyesandskies.blogspot.com/ http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/ http://myvirtualworkshop.blogspot.com http://goo.gl/9Q39fu --Apple-Mail=_D02D7096-7165-4948-9D79-DCE7B42A1EF0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii http://www.customt= onesinc.com/EthosPreamp.html

It's got = the 
It'll probably post = at ebay with a buy it now of $425 plus shipping (fits in a medium Flat = Rate Priority box IIRC; I've got all = the original packaging and papers), but I'd rather it go = to looper for some reason, so I welcome offers and will hold off for a = week or two.


1096 Winchuck River Road
Brookings, OR 97415-9384
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= --Apple-Mail=_D02D7096-7165-4948-9D79-DCE7B42A1EF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 01:43:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50E16183580; Tue, 27 May 2014 01:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Fq+B686gO6Cum5ki2sgZGWXWRdZDRaJzwE3PATZFe2E=; b=OMjQg3W+Ob1M0ylCuHvCzqcGapo1V+v2TDxJNU9vCFJnkGn/VIrSV+qHTusNvZr4UN 2YE0RBVyXrGpdhbT65Vqd8YAwDVkkG1aLPLY3g/EVMXMnv7QA0B/EejiLN4PSg5JIirP xAhhEOUKoQkwJ+AGt08vt+o+oHO8fPeVGjrlDueS9FTuyhLMLRq2QAxRrlCS+OAfH+ls +45XKX25sDwGErs2PgHziiUtUA8OZ3/u0xnHjh7OyjZKWtJya1GMqEh3IcJQHR2/hlKX P3+nOFzGJZ2A41kBkz5pwg/9sS98IG27fPhicshRMegMsqj08euSYNctFL5oZVuDJDWn bq9A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkcbgMsbV1ERQDuzSohwnF016TuZtifNtLXk55R6xpwG0PxpzYeJ2WzS9QKeXrUpSZ2SdAc MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.78.5 with SMTP id x5mr33327226wiw.12.1401154969853; Mon, 26 May 2014 18:42:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> References: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 18:42:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043bded440fb4a04fa57d0ad Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 01:43:39 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043bded440fb4a04fa57d0ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes tweaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! R On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David P Coffin wrote: > Greetings, loopers. > > Before I take this to ebay, I thought I'd give you all a crack at my VERY > little used 2013 Ethos stomp box. > > http://www.customtonesinc.com/EthosPreamp.html > > It's got the TLE/Classic Switch, but none of the new-for-2014 options. > I'd hoped it might rekindle my languishing guitar playing but other > factors interfered, so after a brief happy testing period when it arrived > last July (maybe 6 hours max...?) it's just been sitting idle in its box > ever since...making me feel bad for it. > > It'll probably post at ebay with a buy it now of $425 plus shipping (fits > in a medium Flat Rate Priority box IIRC; I've got all > the original packaging and papers), but I'd rather it go to looper for some > reason, so I welcome offers and will hold off for a week or two. > > Thanks! > > David > 1096 Winchuck River Road > Brookings, OR 97415-9384 > 541-813-1581 > > Recent ebay history on the thing: > > > http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_itemId=150228031111&_nkw=ETHOS+Overdrive+TLE&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc > > > http://eyesandskies.blogspot.com/ > http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/ > http://myvirtualworkshop.blogspot.com > http://goo.gl/9Q39fu > > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --f46d043bded440fb4a04fa57d0ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As = Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. =C2=A0Takes tw= eaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on!

R


On Mon, May 26, = 2014 at 6:24 PM, David P Coffin <dpcoffin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Greeting= s, loopers.

Before I take this to ebay, I thought I'= d give you all a crack at my VERY little used 2013 Ethos stomp box.=C2=A0

http://www.customtonesinc.com/EthosPreamp.html

It's got the=C2=A0TLE/Classic Switch, but none of the new-for-2014 op= tions. I'd hoped it might rekindle my languishing guitar=C2=A0playing= =C2=A0but other factors=C2=A0interfered, so after a brief happy testing per= iod when it arrived last July (maybe 6 hours max...?) it's just been si= tting idle in its box ever since...making me feel bad for it.=

It'l= l probably post at ebay with a buy it now of $425 plus shipping (fits in a = medium Flat Rate Priority box IIRC; I've got all the=C2=A0original=C2= =A0packaging=C2=A0and papers), but I'd rather it go to looper for some = reason, so I welcome offers and will hold off for a week or two.

Thanks!<= /span>

David
1096 Winchuck River = Road
Brookings, OR 97415-9384=



--
richard sales
www.glasswing.com


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I've SO gotta ge= t me one of these X2s... although an old friend who's moving south bequeath= ed a Space Echo unto me, so i have no business GASsing over anything. (chuc= kle)



From:= bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 12:3= 0 PM
Subject: Re: Ditto X2 hal= f-speed question

yes, you can even toggle speeds while recording<= div> Bill


On May 26, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Jenko Nashorn <jenko.nashorn@gmail.com> wr= ote:

Hello there,

I have a question to the Ditto X2 users: Is it possible t= o first switch to half speed and then record a loop (like on the Line6 DL-4= )?
I use that feature quite a lot on my DL-4 and if that was inde= ed possible, the X2 would be a good candidate to replace my DL-4.
=0A


---2030432097-914647333-1401158537=:72137-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 03:17:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94A24183582; Tue, 27 May 2014 03:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-27_01:2014-05-26,2014-05-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405270047 From: bill walker Subject: 12 step Message-id: <4C2E4586-83C3-44D5-B5C0-84BEB4584584@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:16:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: <4CiNMB.A.9_G.IPAhTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 03:17:28 +0000 (UTC) > Latency is not an issue with the 12step, however, you should really try the pads before you buy. It feels very different from the hard clicking switches you are used to and may prove too difficult of a transition. I can't play it with shoes, I never know whether or not I'm hitting the pads. Now thats what I needed to hear :), I think I would want to try and get used to it, seeing as I'd like to try looping with live mics in the studio and would very much like to have a quitter solution, as it is the gordius buttons can be activated with just the whisper of a touch if needed but its harder to do than just slamming the foot down, from the looks of the 12 step, flat soles would be important Thanks guys Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 04:09:21 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BFDE18357E; Tue, 27 May 2014 04:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XvkjG14vK8TqfVJiHh0IQb+HRfZBauMeJ20/izUhCNM=; b=u8FaxdFgnP50XBpLNJwoyFxT6LL7/td5Fg0w1y+zOOReV0fBAo/T/smTgUVFr57M2Y LxXOAvfe+YO2Wz7oEmV6bexp5Xk4gR9f95lnr9y/g1tLgvIADw37V6bDXYaEGJGs/W9h OaCBcL88qaMd1iqMS1bfG3IhsaUmJHI+UYjX4yoEzd6thQ42DFmy1pbOhsTHvK8Z6q86 i61sy4PrqrAWtUhUwhDbYrFKrXPv1Xl55Vj8hesvSZ2eUrBKGdOr66vxq/ShE+p4M5Yw vCjfTNoZB9wImrJSjUbCCkyJe8xyUsfHz4XtIrlySUX86HqSlEqrI9ElNQEFE/GlmtgV zPrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.25.166 with SMTP id 35mr36891461qgt.103.1401163712046; Mon, 26 May 2014 21:08:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 21:08:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c12a76542b5f04fa59d91d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 04:09:21 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c12a76542b5f04fa59d91d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Back to the FCB.... Why would stray cc messages interfere with M=C3=B6bius if its not configure= d to respond? I downloaded midi pipe but I'm not quite sure how it integrates into my Live environment. Would I direct all my incoming midi devices to MP and then filter out the offending channel and direct Live to the single midi pipe? Thanks, Kevin (who would love won FCB controller but doesn't have the cash for such things) On Monday, May 26, 2014, Sylvain Poitras wrote= : > > On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Philip Clevenger < > phil.clevenger@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Goddammit Sylvan you are exactly right > > > Great, I'll stop reading there ;) > Sylvain > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a11c12a76542b5f04fa59d91d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Back to the FCB....

Why would stray cc messages interfer= e with M=C3=B6bius if its not configured to respond?

I downloaded midi pipe but I'm not quite sure how it integrates into= my Live environment.

Would I direct all my incoming midi devices to MP and then f= ilter out the offending channel and direct Live to the single midi pipe?
Thanks,

Kevin (who would love won= FCB controller but doesn't have the cash for such things)

On Monday, May 26, 2014, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:

= On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
Goddammit Sylvan you are exactly right

Great, I'll stop reading there ;)
Sylvain


--
Till now you seriously considered y= ourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance = which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950= )


--001a11c12a76542b5f04fa59d91d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 04:56:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FE59183581; Tue, 27 May 2014 04:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id; bh=k9mD389E/YlOyrnBZ47kjQKtgZphHRA5/9FbRkEOyY0=; b=PQloeHF8YWvUVJeUpqXKVY3JrV5rU/eU3Fuf1J3omCwjprpLayfKk91knhWOqkNdwt d+0sxTLA7FlDhS2LxSDGwjgbkT8s2nnYFuMIAWI++ISsGbfjPf1n4G6WoHN5WRQOj1Mj VRXsm9XO3gR+TVCFF0WDf6UP7OtXpHsnvFxXmpI5gJI+NgAHw+mRKYCwVdvF5gLNoCo3 DPJdF+PgLEk0Yl/UCzXDlxJgS2jqMsgRAk6CkmROnh5WcgN3vFUyX4qG57VAXdEnSxxc igsaEw2yjOt6uDG0AaBhQNYNT76grgb3Ys/YiveNCzcGTvh4unDjE63XErenErtwKRpC lOvw== X-Received: by 10.66.246.138 with SMTP id xw10mr32461592pac.142.1401166521769; Mon, 26 May 2014 21:55:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal Trembath X-Google-Original-From: Neal Trembath Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--194959192 Subject: Re: 12 step Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 21:55:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20140527040921.3FAF4183587@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20140527040921.3FAF4183587@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-Id: <1A975C1D-65CF-4285-A84D-9665E26604C7@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 04:56:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--194959192 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can adjust pad response, which is nice. Playing anytime soon in the = city? > From: bill walker >=20 >> Latency is not an issue with the 12step, however, you should really = try the pads before you buy. It feels very different from the hard = clicking switches you are used to and may prove too difficult of a = transition. I can't play it with shoes, I never know whether or not I'm = hitting the pads. >=20 > Now thats what I needed to hear :), I think I would want to try and = get used to it, seeing as I'd like to try looping with live mics in the = studio and would very much like to have a quitter solution, as it is the = gordius buttons can be activated with just the whisper of a touch if = needed but its harder to do than just slamming the foot down, from the = looks of the 12 step, flat soles would be important > Thanks guys > Bill --Apple-Mail-4--194959192 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
From: = bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com>= ;

Latency is not an issue with the 12step, however, you = should really try the pads before you buy.  It feels very different = from the hard clicking switches you are used to and may prove too = difficult of a transition.  I can't play it with shoes, I never = know whether or not I'm hitting the pads.

Now thats = what I needed to hear :),  I think I would want to try and get used = to it, seeing as I'd like to try looping with live mics  in the = studio and would very much like to have a quitter solution, as it is the = gordius buttons can be activated with just the whisper of a touch if = needed but its harder to do than just slamming the foot down, from the = looks of the 12 step, flat soles would be important
Thanks guys
= Bill
= --Apple-Mail-4--194959192-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 09:45:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC3C018357E; Tue, 27 May 2014 09:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As0DAO1dhFNV0rdk/2dsb2JhbAANTIcbqlqRQIMGBQMCAYEkgxkBAQEBAgEjFUAGCwsaAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGINq5bd6R2F4EqihmDFhaCX4FLAQOwUw X-IPAS-Result: As0DAO1dhFNV0rdk/2dsb2JhbAANTIcbqlqRQIMGBQMCAYEkgxkBAQEBAgEjFUAGCwsaAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGINq5bd6R2F4EqihmDFhaCX4FLAQOwUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,918,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="448193197" Message-ID: <53845E85.5030908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 10:44:37 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> <7016D316-9BD3-4D82-AA31-DEEB519E8BF5@icloud.com> <4DC9434D-FF89-426A-9C88-53DC4BAC59DB@gmail.com> <7B0A6D8F-FB79-4CF9-8628-1D1124CFAFE1@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:45:26 +0000 (UTC) On 27/05/2014 02:29, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Latency is not an issue with the 12step, Best to have someone measure latency with it used as a Midi (non-pc) device. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 09:52:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7A7018357D; Tue, 27 May 2014 09:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3563 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Tue, 27 May 2014 09:52:05 UTC Message-ID: <5384522A.50301@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:51:54 +0100 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Was: FCB 1010 Question, Is: 12 step References: <3A5C3FC3-1196-4501-B945-01D008A89D8C@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: <3A5C3FC3-1196-4501-B945-01D008A89D8C@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 2014.0.4592 [3950/7569] X-Originating-smarthost01a-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:52:05 +0000 (UTC) I only just caught up with this thread since I've never owned an FCB1010, but the 12 step was mentioned & it's definitely the Softstep that was being talked about earlier, with the diamond-shaped 'navpad'.
 I was one of the early adopters, & having had one replaced 'cos it broke, I just got hold of the Mk 2 - better ergonomically, & the notorious backlighting hum has been fixed (now LEDs). So far though, I've found it incredibly over-sensitive; breath on it & it puts out CC127s all over the shop!
The new editor is simpler, loads quicker & is less of a resource-hog (only 200MB of RAM!), but the navpad still isn't programmable in the same way as the rest of the pads. I don't use the KMI software, so I'm not too familiar with it, but the Mk 2 does seem a bit dumbed down to reduce its footprint.
Having spent the last three years refining my own bidule version of controller software, I've got quite a lot of investment in continuing to use it (four functions per button as well as continuous control, incremental, program change etc, and the navpad can function just like any other pad!), but if you're new to it, & are going to depend on the KMI software, I can't in all honesty recommend it. A lot of users seem over the moon with their new Mk2s, but it's early days yet. The size, weight, concept etc is great, but be prepared for frustration & headaches before you get it usable.

IMHO
Dave

On 27/05/2014 02:15, bill walker wrote:
Im still trying to figure out how to pay for one :)  I am definitely interested though, the size ,weight, silent switch, aspects are very appealing for not driven programs or possible foot triggered bass notes.
On May 26, 2014, at 5:59 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:

Hilarious!!! I should have started another thread WTF are we talkin bout here?  I'm talkin bout the 12 step Baby, yeah! Sorry to commandeer the FCB thread 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
no way to program the diamond button config at right

Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step...

The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is another beast entirely.

Sylvain


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 12:26:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18EAF18357E; Tue, 27 May 2014 12:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o09XW5eMqHXHgShpemykEEOV5LEdzzEtUDnedsWeT/g=; b=fPK1aR5Fb5Wi/YMf2LzyjtYKV2Sc4Sw4RN4jqsGxgn8FwyYTHilqbXN08MQ398sOYM WJntGtyhfR/GTHBIj5+hZasZk9rmJeTEH3GWpq1byBVs+8lRFhs8G1iYqp1ztdGrbMHT ZPFRgmkAJmggtY1KvxsrM1GWTqJj1AYq9QTzAXVUoO4HZQhsGu9AXEqiXaPvdbGXldPI PSobTLCYV/8IOmM7wYzwbP+JkIyzvfV2OF/IrdOUq0VGCM6l0zHuIWjFZjCRoPAxVzer W0vumcrE49nDfNUihWtkanyr9Qd6eH4ujMuwokr3w6yruA9M6u1ACgKyiTldIcP6XyL+ mOXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.135.226 with SMTP id pv2mr22286084vdb.33.1401193523454; Tue, 27 May 2014 05:25:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6D7078D0-E95D-44E1-9E07-93C4DAD76305@icloud.com> References: <6D7078D0-E95D-44E1-9E07-93C4DAD76305@icloud.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:25:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ditto X2 half-speed question From: Jenko Nashorn To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51ba27b3a4ccb04fa60ca44 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 12:26:13 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51ba27b3a4ccb04fa60ca44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Bill, that sounds good (and fuels my G.A.S. a little more). Thank you! Johannes 2014-05-26 18:30 GMT+02:00 bill walker : > yes, you can even toggle speeds while recording > Bill > > On May 26, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Jenko Nashorn > wrote: > > Hello there, > > I have a question to the Ditto X2 users: Is it possible to first switch to > half speed and then record a loop (like on the Line6 DL-4)? > I use that feature quite a lot on my DL-4 and if that was indeed possible, > the X2 would be a good candidate to replace my DL-4. > > Cheers, > Johannes > > -- > > jenko.nashorn@gmail.com <--jenko.nashorn@gmail.com> > http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn > > > -- jenko.nashorn@gmail.com <--jenko.nashorn@gmail.com> http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn --bcaec51ba27b3a4ccb04fa60ca44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Bill,

that sounds good (and fuels my= G.A.S. a little more). Thank you!

Johannes
<= /div>


2014-05-= 26 18:30 GMT+02:00 bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com><= /span>:
yes, you= can even toggle speeds while recording
=C2=A0Bill

On May 26, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Jenko Nashorn= <jenko.nas= horn@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there,

I have a question to the Ditto X2 users: Is= it possible to first switch to half speed and then record a loop (like on = the Line6 DL-4)?
I use that feature quite a lot on my DL-4 and if= that was indeed possible, the X2 would be a good candidate to replace my D= L-4.

Cheers,




--

jenko.nashorn@gmail= .com
http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn

--bcaec51ba27b3a4ccb04fa60ca44-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 12:47:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 708E3183582; Tue, 27 May 2014 12:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1401194814; bh=y9KE505VNjsWLBEz7esIhsW/7rkzoehK+HdK47hHFkE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=2LtTGVl5kDFAHbTiCtepzgwjNp9bBPnqTz0gA5Zz1AYyA6VzFw5rspUN9wGXDvJfDOeWpTtHf89GD1sS3M49sOQsUf//YOwBO3EEJMfh6K5PWT+p5x7JdgM5RFQ4ZbwhFn0UM2xLo3l8QmmzroSEPS6PCuyM+qtbL83PzJfrnfI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 897117.91728.bm@smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: dO9FcNUVM1nx9NTBUV6mV9UB.JsRRx7SO6KzAyETrxtudVq 7DewZIOSfNdTOOd4XaFDKI7LqmqMUS56zeNvZM5n66l0nzQc.582mCCRJT3w 6p0LF7Y.0IncVc2cJU7mVzAT0Z9YDS1g39g0HEoExLI_QH1OQS6WeUhXMSzA n9U66xa7_tpGZJbCNDOqVOXwHKmB10agAn4UwCs_ZfU3Nm4mbXcEcpqq7fp9 peP4ghQh3u3oGLwrpUchA.p8sbtmyR1bCSDbQKxabN9aFKmVikE1xA_kigRe nZaYcv5J4npgYr6O9XrkaLWufKW.KeYv.7fx0QCjIyOPeh987_PUzjhO3hmV tTCwQbLLRuq99u8R9wJBPDQtk.Eeuy82ViKKFI82gR_CCDGEefRMX9HA20.s JwS5y.CNqJ4U1Bay_tQ_.lHm6jd81EPYtvpmOvYSi.hn1NLC6wyxQKNiBMZV .lVMFdwFTs8p7EI5JY4qMaTSrlShIhYYqa75nCaM2_INvd4Lek7l_5gbpXDw w.Q5LYfSdI_qroat8l3Vx2XDw9xKrnYuq X-Yahoo-SMTP: zoP3D9GswBAC41P0r57UmSrE__sr072S0w-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.178.70] (louie.angulo@79.234.85.130 with xymcookie [46.228.39.225]) by smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2014 12:46:54 +0000 UTC Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> From: Louie Angulo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1BB1E34C-8C94-450C-A61A-891E49CD1CCA X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:46:52 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 12:47:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1BB1E34C-8C94-450C-A61A-891E49CD1CCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Never did i waste so much time as when i had the softstep I was so happy stomping back on my FCB 1010 Great cocept,in theory only,useless live I hope the 12 step makes up for it,im curious to read how it worx now with m= obius! L. > On 27.05.2014, at 02:09, Sylvain Poitras wrot= e: >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >> no way to program the diamond button config at right >=20 > Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the s= oftstep rather than the 12 step... >=20 > The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 st= ep is another beast entirely. >=20 > Sylvain --Apple-Mail-1BB1E34C-8C94-450C-A61A-891E49CD1CCA Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Never did i waste so much time as when i had the softstep
I was so happy stomping back on my FCB 1010
Great cocept,in theory only,useless live
I hope the 12 step makes up for it,im curious to read how it worx now with mobius!
L.


On 27.05.2014, at 02:09, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
no way to program the diamond button config at right

Reading this again, it strikes me that you're probably talking about the softstep rather than the 12 step...

The softstep seems like a generally disliked controller, whereas the 12 step is another beast entirely.

Sylvain
--Apple-Mail-1BB1E34C-8C94-450C-A61A-891E49CD1CCA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 12:50:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF7C7183584; Tue, 27 May 2014 12:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Rz9cPKvA6ZtMZoGscTNUQwHb+7tZnC1n3mI8JDTTML0=; b=nijNXId9/TUisxrqoByTt40TxYjaGhWDvTtEKjZqYRCTVXw1V9CoCe9bMBC6Bg5X2i djVXRoWvsU69Lhih2nqTzbCp98mCV3S7dbG41oc6Xk+U53iunJb4V7QxgtwdAhvTBTmy J/+RsXDRmNxdXeH2WAgWuaunD7Yk4DDrCxITgRPcNXzY8GilAfv7yINgRaUIYbKh1jt3 83TAvKQjHrdTDY1nJLpaQgz9WMgQaC8c8VZec02oayh5xOj03cdQmbYnDM6foprx2CIr OMhHm3zlr3GhOdbr8eVQj6YsTGgPIWz54zEmWKq5PzeG/vzn/GExxIBm/A75YeRRWjNh DPyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.106.194 with SMTP id gw2mr36608822pbb.85.1401194969874; Tue, 27 May 2014 05:49:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53845E85.5030908@tiscali.co.uk> References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> <7016D316-9BD3-4D82-AA31-DEEB519E8BF5@icloud.com> <4DC9434D-FF89-426A-9C88-53DC4BAC59DB@gmail.com> <7B0A6D8F-FB79-4CF9-8628-1D1124CFAFE1@icloud.com> <53845E85.5030908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 08:49:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6dc7a670c78b04fa612039 Resent-Message-ID: <6rjueC.A.SPF.LoIhTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 12:50:19 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6dc7a670c78b04fa612039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:44 AM, andy butler wrote: > Best to have someone measure latency > with it used as a Midi (non-pc) device. > You mean through the midi expander? That likely adds some latency, but I don't have one, so I can't comment on that. Anyone? Sylvain --047d7b6dc7a670c78b04fa612039 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:44 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk= > wrote:
Best to have someone measure latency
with it used as a Midi (non-pc) device.

You mea= n through the midi expander? =C2=A0That likely adds some latency, but I don= 't have one, so I can't comment on that.

Anyone?

Sylvain
--047d7b6dc7a670c78b04fa612039-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 12:52:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E36C183585; Tue, 27 May 2014 12:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xddXL5ePltaiXzfR+DdSOgjPUoQp6a0zyqBVc6jITzY=; b=Svi4d9ZNZpkSFnFCwmL3g7sSB88uFftTxtWsq6M0G941CZj/+d1r3sCVHeSF7QMOmm K3ka69iEGZ86LApqT5WgoFxsqT3Cxe9RSfL9sW0VFkXKHYh1GE1zAoD4qawxTnfzHBB+ yqNGuJ3UvTKICKBxOnr19lPKIO4LlDZRV4qDcGB+Hmt2Uh+RZ9XC7JsrtVlpBPo4m7zR XEcFuX1uOcqW818tZ7uXED32zeVZwX0xijUR7hn50LAXmSeA7cYA1DduGGn4xdESTU8U 9LfEF1/Rtbvkz/1cG4caFPFBtRxuOGUx0Rp8SOLummFR3Th2dLvSIE4GHC4nDzd9iubW iAnw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.240.34 with SMTP id vx2mr36600875pbc.1.1401195117707; Tue, 27 May 2014 05:51:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <002CD4B8-BA45-466B-9715-FC89C6A8D50A@icloud.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 08:51:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB 1010 Question From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b339d1140874204fa6129cc Resent-Message-ID: <0NJs5B.A._VF.fqIhTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 12:52:47 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b339d1140874204fa6129cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I downloaded midi pipe but I'm not quite sure how it integrates into my > Live environment. It would sit between your midi input and live, like this: FCD1919-->midi input-->midi pipe-->live You'd have to modify the input midi devices in midi pipe and live accordingly and set up midi pipe to filter CCs. Sylvain --047d7b339d1140874204fa6129cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <= ;billowhead@gmail= .com> wrote:
I downloaded midi pipe but I'm not quite= sure how it integrates into my Live environment.

It = would sit between your midi input and live, like this:

FCD1919--&g= t;midi input-->midi pipe-->live

<= /div>
You'd have to modify the input midi dev= ices in midi pipe and live accordingly and set up midi pipe to filter CCs.<= /div>

Sylvain
--047d7b339d1140874204fa6129cc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 16:52:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11B0518357E; Tue, 27 May 2014 16:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MZArt7ixRqLD4BoFQ/p1IA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-27_05:2014-05-26,2014-05-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=25 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405270227 From: bill walker Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale Message-id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:50:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:52:09 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_MZArt7ixRqLD4BoFQ/p1IA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes = tweaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my = recommendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, = because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. = Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to = get a consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean = tone, and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and = in front of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in = the last 6 years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets = plenty of use flitting from board to board. I find it interesting that = Custom Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version of = the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the clean channel and love = other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty channel = simply doesn't saturate as much as other drives they are used to. For = me, because I switch from instruments with thick strings and humbucking = pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciate = the more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty channel because = it doesn't get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can = always push it harder with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to = get the extra saturation with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was = tired of messing with modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of = amplifiers, just one really good one. I have definitely gotten my monies = worth. Bill= --Boundary_(ID_MZArt7ixRqLD4BoFQ/p1IA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable As Bill = Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box.  Takes = tweaking but it's the one gizmo that's always = on!


Its funny you say that = Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my recommendation, and = I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because they = weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them.  Which is = odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get = a consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean = tone, and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and = in front of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in = the last 6 years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets = plenty of use flitting from board to board.  I find it interesting = that Custom Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel = only version of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the = clean channel and love other drives pushing it, which I do. I = think for some, the = dirty channel simply doesn't saturate as much as = other drives they are used to. For me, because I switch from instruments = with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin strings and = single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less distorted = response of the dirty channel because it doesn't get = too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it = harder with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra = saturation with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of = messing with modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of = amplifiers, just one really good one. I have definitely gotten my monies = worth.
 Bill
= --Boundary_(ID_MZArt7ixRqLD4BoFQ/p1IA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 17:23:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BF6C183583; Tue, 27 May 2014 17:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lHj64T3BVXUlEbPWbeLri45I2stAI6hCLmJ3svrkLS8=; b=Ba4GEId87IJjbvglqsx/IjGmnRDrnStS0bLyHisSfcygsBTxT0hB97JeTLKfbPglR4 E+YOhi8iuEwhKlBrOvUZSISVT8y+ZaPvnaHxPeLQD8tymhokfMgTZHkSmYlzDgNVSQ6X ePH3AGjUj3ffuXc/2lilIDlVak5cdYrR1zzmWLl1HCVyBiOw9jftaFXuA+ycgSrI4dyf 60j10DcjTVVrVK71Qklk2TrmKHfC2jt/uW3TXQz4VK2fiYUVZAntlYhYUBgOnBYjaghD vnpOjfUl3HEqJ1QkWxkS+lpF0vme7PO0bs90acCMzMFl7RXOM9cWA21mTNFpUXy3q9+3 GCkw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmYVhsNZq9m1lh5lWSB0nWpknHVoMJelyNqMBUNuhgkuO05EAw3EtDfKEoUQEpZFrUiNQtw MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.64.80 with SMTP id xh16mr3586438vcb.35.1401211371994; Tue, 27 May 2014 10:22:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 10:22:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113351b215540104fa64f2e7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:23:42 +0000 (UTC) --001a113351b215540104fa64f2e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple times. That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no ice pick nice top end, single coils. And I do use it in front of tube amps - mostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. Used it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup into the Magnatone 213. Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only had AC30s. Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone and power. Sometimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not often. My only complaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say, a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point! I've never really heard an overdrive I like. The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? It's still on my pedal board and always pushing. It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair to the tone. It's driving my beloved Ethos. I wonder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? The memory is lost in the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age. Don't like the Analogman King Of Tone. Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy, but only used sparingly. Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off the pedalboard. Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals. Should probably sell them but ya never know when you're going to need that specific thing. I still think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying for help. Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio here. When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kids and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. The wife files for divorce. Recently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). Will have to buy it and see if I'm finally getting REALLY old. Will check out Zendrive. Anything Bill likes Richard likes. What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? Is it called an H9 or something? I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it. R On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker wrote: > As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes > tweaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! > > > > Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my > recommendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, > because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. > Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to > get a consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, > and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front > of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 > years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use > flitting from board to board. I find it interesting that Custom Tones > (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version of the Ethos this > summer, for peeps who love the clean channel and love other drives pushing > it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty channel simply doesn't saturate > as much as other drives they are used to. For me, because I switch from > instruments with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin > strings and single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less > distorted response of the dirty channel because it doesn't get too > compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it harder with > another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra saturation with > the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing > with modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one > really good one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth. > Bill > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --001a113351b215540104fa64f2e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wel= l, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple times. = =C2=A0That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear= no ice pick nice top end, single coils. =C2=A0And I do use it in front of = tube amps - mostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. =C2=A0

Used it a lot when touring wit= h a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup into the Magnatone 213. =C2=A0= Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only had AC30s. =C2=A0Got rave r= eviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone and power.

Sometimes I used the overdrive= channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not often.=C2=A0

My only co= mplaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say= , a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point!

I've n= ever really heard an overdrive I like. =C2=A0The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is = nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? =C2=A0It's still o= n my pedal board and always pushing. =C2=A0It adds just a touch of oomph...= downy angel hair to the tone. =C2=A0It's driving my beloved Ethos.

I wonder if it was YOU who ins= pired me to get mine? =C2=A0The memory is lost in the exhaust fumes and rea= r view mirror of old age.

Don't like the Analogman K= ing Of Tone. =C2=A0Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy, but only used sparing= ly. =C2=A0Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off the pedalboard= . =C2=A0Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals. =C2=A0Should probabl= y sell them but ya never know when you're going to need that specific t= hing.

I still think the best overdri= ve is an amp approaching death and crying for help. =C2=A0Am hoping to buil= d some kind of box for doing that in the studio here. =C2=A0When the music = gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kids and neighbors all st= art stuttering and walking in circles. =C2=A0The wife files for divorce.

Recently heard and liked the W= ampler Velvet (fuzz). =C2=A0Will have to buy it and see if I'm finally = getting REALLY old.
Will check out Zendr= ive. =C2=A0Anything Bill likes Richard likes.

What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? =C2=A0 Is it called an H9= or something? =C2=A0I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it.

R



On Tue, Ma= y 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com&= gt; wrote:
As Bill Walker will tell = you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. =C2=A0Takes tweaking but it's th= e one gizmo that's always on!


Its funny = you say that Richard, I've=C2=A0had a few people buy these on my recomm= endation, and I'm=C2=A0surprised=C2=A0that a few of them took me to tas= k, because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for the= m. =C2=A0Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its = harder to get a=C2=A0consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than goo= d clean tone, and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct = and in front of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in t= he last 6 years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plent= y of use flitting from board to board. =C2=A0I find it interesting that=C2= =A0Custom=C2=A0Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version= of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the clean=C2=A0channel=C2=A0a= nd love other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty=C2= =A0channel=C2=A0simply=C2=A0doesn't=C2=A0saturate as much as other driv= es they are used to. For me, because I switch from instruments with thick s= trings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pic= kups I appreciate the more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty=C2= =A0channel=C2=A0because it=C2=A0doesn't=C2=A0get too compressed and mud= dy with the former, and I can always push it harder with another drive, cle= an boost, or compressor to get the extra saturation with the later. When I = bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with=C2=A0modeled=C2=A0amps and I = didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one really good one. I hav= e definitely gotten my monies worth.
=C2=A0= Bill



--
richard sales
www.glasswing.com


--001a113351b215540104fa64f2e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 17:25:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06A56183596; Tue, 27 May 2014 17:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: home made Frippertronics again Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 19:25:01 +0200 Message-ID: <002d01cf79d0$98a173f0$c9e45bd0$@mpeters.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01CF79E1.5C2A6B00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac950Jc2kGSnAfaJQ7i2vN+hke3WOA== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:25:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CF79E1.5C2A6B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit first session, for those who haven't see it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z7b6zsO_2k second session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxtd5aF7-xc enjoy! -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CF79E1.5C2A6B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable home made Frippertronics again

first session, for those who haven't see = it

https://www.youtub= e.com/watch?v=3D9Z7b6zsO_2k

second = session

https://www.youtub= e.com/watch?v=3DXxtd5aF7-xc

enjoy!  = -Michael

------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CF79E1.5C2A6B00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 17:43:33 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3A6E18358C; Tue, 27 May 2014 17:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: a polyphonic harmonizer in bidule Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 19:42:37 +0200 Message-ID: <000001cf79d3$0def2330$29cd6990$@mpeters.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF79E3.D177F330" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac950v3uplFSsKXDTui0hSmoRmVA2Q== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:43:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF79E3.D177F330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit posting this here too because nobody replied to my Plogue forum post yet. I know there are some Bidule wizards here so ... There's a feature I'd love to add to my current setup: a polyphonic harmonizer by using several (say: 6) instances of the wonderful monophonic GRM FreqShift plugin. Of course I'd like to play the notes for the harmonizers on a midi controller, say, a Nanokey. Ideally, the 6 plugin instances should be switched off by default to save processor power, and they should be switched on when receiving a note-on, and switched off at note-off. I'm sure something like this has been done before often. It seems to me that chords that I might play on the controller have to be somehow split into up to 6 single notes (using a Nanokey, 6 single CC messages) which then get sent to the corresponding harmonizer. What would be the simplest way to do that in Bidule? -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF79E3.D177F330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a polyphonic harmonizer in bidule

posting this here too because nobody replied to my = Plogue forum post yet. I know there are some Bidule = wizards here so ...

There's a feature I'd love to add to my current setup: = a polyphonic harmonizer by using several (say: 6) instances of the = wonderful monophonic GRM FreqShift plugin. Of course I'd like to play = the notes for the harmonizers on a midi controller, say, a Nanokey. = Ideally, the 6 plugin instances should be switched off by default to = save processor power, and they should be switched on when receiving a = note-on, and switched off at note-off.

I'm sure something like this has been done before often. It seems to me = that chords that I might play on the controller have to be somehow split = into up to 6 single notes (using a Nanokey, 6 single CC messages) which = then get sent to the corresponding harmonizer. What would be the = simplest way to do that in Bidule?

-Michael

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF79E3.D177F330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 18:14:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31C8A183591; Tue, 27 May 2014 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 787 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Tue, 27 May 2014 18:14:54 UTC Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale References: From: Chris Muir Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-33DDD35B-CFF3-4276-A6ED-7D288C7CB652 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D167) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <5AB772E4-B34C-4B24-9204-607D4FCABF14@well.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 11:00:49 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: <4d15rC.A.KmB.eYNhTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-33DDD35B-CFF3-4276-A6ED-7D288C7CB652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've considered the Ethos because of size, but I already have a rack preamp w= ith a nice clean channel that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I haven't be= en able to rationalize the cost. I do love the size, though.=20 The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simble. =46rom the online= demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most convincing Dumbleish overdr= ive.=20 The Eventide H9 is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have an iO= S device. You can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can run a= ny of the algorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as a few u= nique H9 algos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and the H9 C= ore. The difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are $20 each,= and you can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9.=20 Sent from my magic glass. > On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Richard Sales wrote:= > Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple tim= es. That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no ic= e pick nice top end, single coils. And I do use it in front of tube amps - m= ostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. =20 >=20 > Used it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup int= o the Magnatone 213. Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only had AC= 30s. Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone and po= wer. >=20 > Sometimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not= often.=20 >=20 > My only complaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting i= f, say, a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point! >=20 > I've never really heard an overdrive I like. The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 i= s nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? It's still on my pedal b= oard and always pushing. It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair t= o the tone. It's driving my beloved Ethos. >=20 > I wonder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? The memory is lost in= the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age. >=20 > Don't like the Analogman King Of Tone. Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy,= but only used sparingly. Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off th= e pedalboard. Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals. Should probab= ly sell them but ya never know when you're going to need that specific thing= . >=20 > I still think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying fo= r help. Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio he= re. When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kids a= nd neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. The wife files fo= r divorce. >=20 > Recently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). Will have to buy it a= nd see if I'm finally getting REALLY old. > Will check out Zendrive. Anything Bill likes Richard likes. >=20 > What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? Is it called an H9 or s= omething? I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it. >=20 > R >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker w= rote: >>> As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes t= weaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! >>=20 >>=20 >> Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my rec= ommendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because t= hey weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. Which is odd b= ecause i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get a consensus on= what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, and most everyone is= enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front of a tube amp. In fact= its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 years that has remained a c= onstant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use flitting from board to board.= I find it interesting that Custom Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean c= hannel only version of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the clean c= hannel and love other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, the d= irty channel simply doesn't saturate as much as other drives they are used t= o. For me, because I switch from instruments with thick strings and humbucki= ng pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciate th= e more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty channel because it does= n't get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it h= arder with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra satura= tion with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with mo= deled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one really goo= d one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth. >> Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-33DDD35B-CFF3-4276-A6ED-7D288C7CB652 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've considered the Ethos because of s= ize, but I already have a rack preamp with a nice clean channel that reacts n= icely to being pushed, so I haven't been able to rationalize the cost. I do l= ove the size, though. 

The overdrive that I wo= uld love to evaluate is the Simble. =46rom the online demos, it sounds like i= t's going to do the most convincing Dumbleish overdrive. 
The Eventide H9 is a wonderful little device, particularly if yo= u have an iOS device. You can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well.= It can run any of the algorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as w= ell as a few unique H9 algos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9= , and the H9 Core. The difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms= are $20 each, and you can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9. 
Sent from my magic glass.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, R= ichard Sales <richard@glasswing.= com> wrote:
=
Well, tell you the tr= uth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple times.  That's becaus= e of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no ice pick nice top en= d, single coils.  And I do use it in front of tube amps - mostly the bl= ackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410.  

Used it a lot when touring with a C= ollings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup into the Magnatone 213.  Ethos s= aved my butt in Japan when backline only had AC30s.  Got rave reviews i= n the papers and magazines there for the tone and power.

Sometimes I used the overdrive cha= nnel for a touch of extra stuff, but not often. 

My only com= plaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say, a bu= tterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point!

I've never r= eally heard an overdrive I like.  The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is nice, b= ut I'm so conservative... what do I know?  It's still on my pedal board= and always pushing.  It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair= to the tone.  It's driving my beloved Ethos.

I wonder if it was YOU who inspire= d me to get mine?  The memory is lost in the exhaust fumes and rear vie= w mirror of old age.

Don't like the Analogman King Of T= one.  Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy, but only used sparingly.  = ;Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off the pedalboard.  Lots o= f pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals.  Should probably sell them but= ya never know when you're going to need that specific thing.

I still think the best overdrive i= s an amp approaching death and crying for help.  Am hoping to build som= e kind of box for doing that in the studio here.  When the music gets w= ay loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kids and neighbors all start stu= ttering and walking in circles.  The wife files for divorce.

Recently heard and liked the Wampl= er Velvet (fuzz).  Will have to buy it and see if I'm finally getting R= EALLY old.
Will check out Zendri= ve.  Anything Bill likes Richard likes.

What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box?   Is it called an H9 o= r something?  I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it.

R



On Tue, May 2= 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
As Bill Walker will tell you= , the Ethos is a totally magic box.  Takes tweaking but it's the one gi= zmo that's always on!


Its funny y= ou say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my recommendati= on, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because t= hey weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them.  Which is= odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get a c= onsensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, and most e= veryone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front of a tube am= p. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 years that has r= emained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use flitting from boar= d to board.  I find it interesting that Custom Tones (Ethos) w= ill be unveiling a clean channel only version of the Ethos this summer, for p= eeps who love the clean channel and love other drives pushing it, w= hich I do. I think for some, the dirty channel simply doesn't=  saturate as much as other drives they are used to. For me, because I s= witch from instruments with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones wit= h thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less d= istorted response of the dirty channel because it doesn't&nbs= p;get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it har= der with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra saturati= on with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with = ;modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one re= ally good one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth.
 B= ill



--
richard sales
www.glasswing.com


= --Apple-Mail-33DDD35B-CFF3-4276-A6ED-7D288C7CB652-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 18:16:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 268D0183596; Tue, 27 May 2014 18:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oyHcrJAlmzTwJXDO2vvY95/wMXw+DtA5N7VT0xV9dxE=; b=B1d5nZsEbKXHuZpoVcO1Cz0B3fDYKTcgQAud9lX/D13oBw71EmgqRsdV8Uc5Wmpoe5 tUNszT+bj2+IbP8Mw6T0p0MbFgcS5ptLmUsyebwCnCQ0MBXffVQzil04h+QPTQFPDSs5 EJ8euaIUjU5i/vS6wCiigIu8gS/hI3mG6017wCOKIrIO9O1ibCoTogqYnTKcz83t6cnr 8x4CeHGPuZrkdWsEC0i49M+PpQh12J0oUjnRVclGBazo36Im0chWe7YsKnv5llcjN1xH noGcHZnxVYY2Gd3qAE6p5+PMKbQf1IqnRyx0Ot+fMwAUcZtauhm1Ptz/HXex8/Xe9onD VfXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.94.75 with SMTP id da11mr34823581oeb.43.1401214535314; Tue, 27 May 2014 11:15:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000001cf79d3$0def2330$29cd6990$@mpeters.de> References: <000001cf79d3$0def2330$29cd6990$@mpeters.de> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 20:15:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a polyphonic harmonizer in bidule From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4wOQdB.A.HtB.5ZNhTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:16:25 +0000 (UTC) So you want a six voices polyphonic harmoniser? Maybe a mixer object would do to duplicate the audio stream into the six parallel channels that hos one instance of the FreqShift each. I think you should do some tests to find out if changing the FreqShift value really is the best way of "playing notes/pitches". Maybe it is faster (less latency) and more stable to set up an Audio Switcher object to target a number of instances to react simultaneously when sending in the control event to the Audio Switcher? The good thing with this method would be that you may set up six voiced chords to be "played" by notes (or pedal tap dancing). Part of the setting up trick is to daisy-chain a lot of pre tuned FreqShift instances, one after the other, on each voice's channel; all but one bypassed and the controlling event you send into the Audio Switcher object will change which one of them are not the bypassed one. And as already said, one "leg" of the Audio Switcher can activate different FreqyShift instances on each channel. Example: if you think that you need a scale of five notes to pick from you have to daisy-chain six FreqShift instances on each one of the six channels and set up a control assignment to the Audio Switcher where you also assign external events (pushing your Nanokey note-on or kicking a pedal or whatever). There might be other good ways too, this was just the first idea that came up when reading your post. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > posting this here too because nobody replied to my Plogue forum post yet. I > know there are some Bidule wizards here so ... > > There's a feature I'd love to add to my current setup: a polyphonic > harmonizer by using several (say: 6) instances of the wonderful monophonic > GRM FreqShift plugin. Of course I'd like to play the notes for the > harmonizers on a midi controller, say, a Nanokey. Ideally, the 6 plugin > instances should be switched off by default to save processor power, and > they should be switched on when receiving a note-on, and switched off at > note-off. > > I'm sure something like this has been done before often. It seems to me that > chords that I might play on the controller have to be somehow split into up > to 6 single notes (using a Nanokey, 6 single CC messages) which then get > sent to the corresponding harmonizer. What would be the simplest way to do > that in Bidule? > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 18:34:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED1F118358F; Tue, 27 May 2014 18:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8DACzahFNV0rdk/2dsb2JhbAANTINZg0KqYpRLAwIBgSSDGQEBAQEDIxURLxELGAICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFEwYCAQG4SHekPheBKogJhFFVFoJfgUsEpyuJKA X-IPAS-Result: Ap8DACzahFNV0rdk/2dsb2JhbAANTINZg0KqYpRLAwIBgSSDGQEBAQEDIxURLxELGAICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFEwYCAQG4SHekPheBKogJhFFVFoJfgUsEpyuJKA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,921,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="468359754" Message-ID: <5384DA93.8090403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 19:33:55 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a polyphonic harmonizer in bidule References: <000001cf79d3$0def2330$29cd6990$@mpeters.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Hook up one Freqshift instance for each note you may want. Switch it on only when that note is present. ...just occured to me on reading Per's post, andy On 27/05/2014 19:15, Per Boysen wrote: > So you want a six voices polyphonic harmoniser? Maybe a mixer object > would do to duplicate the audio stream into the six parallel channels > that hos one instance of the FreqShift each. I think you should do > some tests to find out if changing the FreqShift value really is the > best way of "playing notes/pitches". Maybe it is faster (less latency) > and more stable to set up an Audio Switcher object to target a number > of instances to react simultaneously when sending in the control event > to the Audio Switcher? The good thing with this method would be that > you may set up six voiced chords to be "played" by notes (or pedal tap > dancing). Part of the setting up trick is to daisy-chain a lot of pre > tuned FreqShift instances, one after the other, on each voice's > channel; all but one bypassed and the controlling event you send into > the Audio Switcher object will change which one of them are not the > bypassed one. And as already said, one "leg" of the Audio Switcher can > activate different FreqyShift instances on each channel. Example: if > you think that you need a scale of five notes to pick from you have to > daisy-chain six FreqShift instances on each one of the six channels > and set up a control assignment to the Audio Switcher where you also > assign external events (pushing your Nanokey note-on or kicking a > pedal or whatever). > > There might be other good ways too, this was just the first idea that > came up when reading your post. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> posting this here too because nobody replied to my Plogue forum post yet. I >> know there are some Bidule wizards here so ... >> >> There's a feature I'd love to add to my current setup: a polyphonic >> harmonizer by using several (say: 6) instances of the wonderful monophonic >> GRM FreqShift plugin. Of course I'd like to play the notes for the >> harmonizers on a midi controller, say, a Nanokey. Ideally, the 6 plugin >> instances should be switched off by default to save processor power, and >> they should be switched on when receiving a note-on, and switched off at >> note-off. >> >> I'm sure something like this has been done before often. It seems to me that >> chords that I might play on the controller have to be somehow split into up >> to 6 single notes (using a Nanokey, 6 single CC messages) which then get >> sent to the corresponding harmonizer. What would be the simplest way to do >> that in Bidule? >> >> -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 18:41:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6644183597; Tue, 27 May 2014 18:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ouMbvZ+dt1FBhTrzd0LQm8LiW0tLm672Rsif1JHItZA=; b=erAj2k7aLovGmbhU6zXPF3hvUze0wERdRHvowLdeOAirVIK17QMUJw3wnZQHx6kf+H zS4rPFxx0+JPTzPwIsv859ZBF/heJZRxDGrxmgj5nsja8kww6934/13rR8N4rz3jQqo8 wH2EQFhqNDIK4QWThZGT/OnPhAxGCp7nxAD7rGUNmgxyj2FeKimz54qS5MwCwyV4Ul3g LWrX6EnwuC9ePPbURcLDExGp2YeaJqimiWlfAtmgUNcUVl4T/UEf7F5HVWTulAQ/aqO2 ksTBTeuvTKt2jLCYjiX5qxtURgiCxc/7uWrXkB3LcLIVOohNN/y53q309slloOy2bEq+ VYVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.69.19.139 with SMTP id gu11mr38591125pbd.36.1401216051725; Tue, 27 May 2014 11:40:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000001cf79d3$0def2330$29cd6990$@mpeters.de> References: <000001cf79d3$0def2330$29cd6990$@mpeters.de> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:40:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a polyphonic harmonizer in bidule From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11367374044c7004fa6609bd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:41:41 +0000 (UTC) --001a11367374044c7004fa6609bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > I'm sure something like this has been done before often. Have a look at the polyphonic adapter: http://www.plogue.com/bidule/help/ch08s02.html I'm not sure if it works with plugins... you'd need to wrap it into a group to expose the activity gate. I'll give it a shot when I get home. Sylvain --001a11367374044c7004fa6609bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> = wrote:
I'm sure something like this has been done before ofte= n.

Have a look at the polyphonic adapter: http://www.plogue.com/bidule/help/ch08s02.= html

I'm not sure if it works with plugins... =C2=A0you'd need to wrap i= t into a group to expose the activity gate. =C2=A0I'll give it a shot w= hen I get home.

Sylvain
--001a11367374044c7004fa6609bd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 20:01:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1250183597; Tue, 27 May 2014 20:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 384 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Tue, 27 May 2014 20:01:53 UTC From: Charles Zwicky Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_91A9F8B0-8DA7-4CC6-BF27-1FBA77C6D655" Message-Id: <4F982A5A-8488-4CE8-A741-992A7FC595D6@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: home made Frippertronics again Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:54:25 -0400 References: <002d01cf79d0$98a173f0$c9e45bd0$@mpeters.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002d01cf79d0$98a173f0$c9e45bd0$@mpeters.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120ebc548ce8450cec475ba46e41859d983636dce2d9cd9b30c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.121.70 Resent-Message-ID: <2oUNUD.A.sPD.x8OhTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 20:01:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_91A9F8B0-8DA7-4CC6-BF27-1FBA77C6D655 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How is it set up so that the supply reel never diminishes and the = take-up reel never grows? http://www.zmix.net http://www.allmusic.com/artist/chuck-zwicky-mn0000126243 On May 27, 2014, at 13:25, Michael Peters wrote: first session, for those who haven't see it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9Z7b6zsO_2k second session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXxtd5aF7-xc enjoy! -Michael --Apple-Mail=_91A9F8B0-8DA7-4CC6-BF27-1FBA77C6D655 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
How is it set up so that the supply reel never diminishes and the take-up reel never grows?

http://www.zmix.net

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/chuck-zwicky-mn0000126243


On May 27, 2014, at 13:25, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

home made Frippertronics again

first session, for those who haven't see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z7b6zsO_2k

second session

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxtd5aF7-xc

enjoy!  -Michael



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Tape loop...? 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I have the amp one,which provides 30 watts and is as loud as a fender deluxe= reverb through a cab It also has an fx loop and i plug it direct to a 112 cabinet wow what a soun= d! But as you say Richard nothing compares to the drive and compression of a go= od tube amp So i only use the Ethos mostly when i play solo gigs,or get too lazy to carr= y cause i know that my tube amp will be ignored all night by the elderly who= will b tellin you to turn it down even before you start playing anyway With a rock n roll band tho my koch twintone III is king i dont know of any other 50 watt tube amp that has clean,overdrive,super ove= rdrive,reverb and boost for every channel all controlable with its own compa= ct pedal switch you can do a gig just with that I hardly use fx with it,sometimes just a touch of delay,leslie,univibe and w= ah wah And It sounds fantastic! Luis > On 27.05.2014, at 19:22, Richard Sales wrote: >=20 > Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple tim= es. That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no ic= e pick nice top end, single coils. And I do use it in front of tube amps - m= ostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. =20 >=20 > Used it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup int= o the Magnatone 213. Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only had AC= 30s. Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone and po= wer. >=20 > Sometimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not= often.=20 >=20 > My only complaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting i= f, say, a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point! >=20 > I've never really heard an overdrive I like. The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 i= s nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? It's still on my pedal b= oard and always pushing. It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair t= o the tone. It's driving my beloved Ethos. >=20 > I wonder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? The memory is lost in= the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age. >=20 > Don't like the Analogman King Of Tone. Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy,= but only used sparingly. Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off th= e pedalboard. Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals. Should probab= ly sell them but ya never know when you're going to need that specific thing= . >=20 > I still think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying fo= r help. Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio he= re. When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kids a= nd neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. The wife files fo= r divorce. >=20 > Recently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). Will have to buy it a= nd see if I'm finally getting REALLY old. > Will check out Zendrive. Anything Bill likes Richard likes. >=20 > What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? Is it called an H9 or s= omething? I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it. >=20 > R >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker w= rote: >>> As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes t= weaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! >>=20 >>=20 >> Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my rec= ommendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because t= hey weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. Which is odd b= ecause i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get a consensus on= what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, and most everyone is= enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front of a tube amp. In fact= its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 years that has remained a c= onstant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use flitting from board to board.= I find it interesting that Custom Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean c= hannel only version of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the clean c= hannel and love other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, the d= irty channel simply doesn't saturate as much as other drives they are used t= o. For me, because I switch from instruments with thick strings and humbucki= ng pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciate th= e more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty channel because it does= n't get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it h= arder with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra satura= tion with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with mo= deled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one really goo= d one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth. >> Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-C5F61E3D-94B3-44E7-8FEE-4291A0A891A8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Im an Ethos user as well,i also have n= ot come across a better preamp!
I have the amp one,which provides 3= 0 watts and is as loud as a fender deluxe reverb through a cab
It a= lso has an fx loop and i plug it direct to a 112 cabinet wow what a sound!
But as you say Richard nothing compares to the drive and compressio= n of a good tube amp
So i only use the Ethos mostly when i play so= lo gigs,or get too lazy to carry cause i know that my tube amp will be ignor= ed all night by the elderly who will b tellin you to turn it down even befor= e you start playing anyway
With a rock n roll band tho my koch twi= ntone III is king
i dont know of any other 50 watt tube amp that h= as clean,overdrive,super overdrive,reverb and boost for every channel all co= ntrolable with its own compact pedal switch
you can do a gig just w= ith that
I hardly use fx with it,sometimes just a touch of delay,l= eslie,univibe and wah wah
And It sounds fantastic!
Luis<= /div>

On 27.05.2014, at 19:22, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:

Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the o= verdrive a couple times.  That's because of the sound I love - clean, l= ush, very fat, clear no ice pick nice top end, single coils.  And I do u= se it in front of tube amps - mostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 454= 10.  

Used it a lot when touring with a C= ollings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup into the Magnatone 213.  Ethos s= aved my butt in Japan when backline only had AC30s.  Got rave reviews i= n the papers and magazines there for the tone and power.

Sometimes I used the overdrive cha= nnel for a touch of extra stuff, but not often. 

My only com= plaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say, a bu= tterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point!

I've never r= eally heard an overdrive I like.  The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is nice, b= ut I'm so conservative... what do I know?  It's still on my pedal board= and always pushing.  It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair= to the tone.  It's driving my beloved Ethos.

I wonder if it was YOU who inspire= d me to get mine?  The memory is lost in the exhaust fumes and rear vie= w mirror of old age.

Don't like the Analogman King Of T= one.  Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy, but only used sparingly.  = ;Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off the pedalboard.  Lots o= f pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals.  Should probably sell them but= ya never know when you're going to need that specific thing.

I still think the best overdrive i= s an amp approaching death and crying for help.  Am hoping to build som= e kind of box for doing that in the studio here.  When the music gets w= ay loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kids and neighbors all start stu= ttering and walking in circles.  The wife files for divorce.

Recently heard and liked the Wampl= er Velvet (fuzz).  Will have to buy it and see if I'm finally getting R= EALLY old.
Will check out Zendri= ve.  Anything Bill likes Richard likes.

What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box?   Is it called an H9 o= r something?  I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it.

R



On Tue, May 2= 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
As Bill Walker will tell you= , the Ethos is a totally magic box.  Takes tweaking but it's the one gi= zmo that's always on!


Its funny y= ou say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my recommendati= on, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because t= hey weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them.  Which is= odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get a c= onsensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, and most e= veryone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front of a tube am= p. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 years that has r= emained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use flitting from boar= d to board.  I find it interesting that Custom Tones (Ethos) w= ill be unveiling a clean channel only version of the Ethos this summer, for p= eeps who love the clean channel and love other drives pushing it, w= hich I do. I think for some, the dirty channel simply doesn't=  saturate as much as other drives they are used to. For me, because I s= witch from instruments with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones wit= h thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less d= istorted response of the dirty channel because it doesn't&nbs= p;get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it har= der with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra saturati= on with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with = ;modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one re= ally good one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth.
 B= ill



--
richard sales
www.glasswing.com


= --Apple-Mail-C5F61E3D-94B3-44E7-8FEE-4291A0A891A8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 21:05:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9428B183582; Tue, 27 May 2014 21:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1401224665; bh=7ZUKYpqM0Zr8MGWOpsPthlQ2a1xsTy4NL4QS9pL8qYc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=m3HdSgKiNhTECybuhB00ECC8N7gAmH48oTK7G7UkyK7j2tJ1G5QJoyA6kdxOD8q1I3Z7KLhwxqhk7bwBsIQEhEZS6GQHd+Eo26vHg3rSMtl6kJkiEtEbdcDQ4YA0suPGjNM0zVgLVQk/7tywv2NNPIDWmtJ30s0lpjxulKVUmtQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 923534.5117.bm@smtp115.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Y6rCrLIVM1nGzAaUM0pzf4_kz0dDjWmQLClS3WpkMeJ.4Px Jo8nYlG_vwMDNoURig5wZCouQglPvLKTe5HT8b9rdd.m.LUi.W1jYNijryM4 ItTSpuDdvWeAbQ6BYbN452klKt4OBC4hswFbSzSRKrwrE1npaEjKYNwmrh8U N5d35h_n75yjfPGnLBc5ZiZq8uMY13DoWAw9uBkha2lvNtcez3e3_fmzOWz8 _qGHgvqwTA9uPTmnYKILZZJ1HFL1qLH1MNkVxTx3BiuVfxpJ68iDFIjgHkPi YKopsdqwyjDit9lRXFyi2VRWZd7RqniL6xkOyILUAZ64awHSt257QT_4s.AJ _Ljs0SPdcDb2Oac33rlbXiihzELt0Dh8bkOjl87TkSqvEXUfFnpXim987ff9 Xag5ol.NKXuHpK0.4En9M5hF_QK4BOSHi5lwtmArDVvuvstptfmLbsxbkayI bsaXsuOKWFianPFKp9cDI4D88lw17oL1FoVVDuYFEoUOhWoeBo6KFQp6xKXf 9DI_9K9WtO_zGXB6O1_9hjI0IjnjdnbQ2boctQ8vosv968sldnQwuYFynuUm Mwkz5fQPs2EJvBuNWpUByU9ore21iHOOzdeb3GA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: zoP3D9GswBAC41P0r57UmSrE__sr072S0w-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.178.70] (louie.angulo@79.234.85.130 with xymcookie [46.228.39.225]) by smtp115.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2014 21:04:25 +0000 UTC Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale References: <5AB772E4-B34C-4B24-9204-607D4FCABF14@well.com> From: Louie Angulo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BAAF7C73-7F07-4E01-93B8-E41585B4E645 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <5AB772E4-B34C-4B24-9204-607D4FCABF14@well.com> Message-Id: <631CB55B-5319-49F2-9D92-3BB24EDB194A@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 23:04:23 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:05:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-BAAF7C73-7F07-4E01-93B8-E41585B4E645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was amazed that the H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong? > On 27.05.2014, at 20:00, Chris Muir wrote: >=20 > I've considered the Ethos because of size, but I already have a rack pream= p with a nice clean channel that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I haven't= been able to rationalize the cost. I do love the size, though.=20 >=20 > The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simble. =46rom the onli= ne demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most convincing Dumbleish over= drive.=20 >=20 > The Eventide H9 is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have an i= OS device. You can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can run= any of the algorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as a fe= w unique H9 algos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and the H= 9 Core. The difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are $20 ea= ch, and you can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9.=20 >=20 > Sent from my magic glass. >=20 >> On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Richard Sales wrote= : >> Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple ti= mes. That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no i= ce pick nice top end, single coils. And I do use it in front of tube amps -= mostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. =20 >>=20 >> Used it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup in= to the Magnatone 213. Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only had A= C30s. Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone and p= ower. >>=20 >> Sometimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but no= t often.=20 >>=20 >> My only complaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting= if, say, a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point! >>=20 >> I've never really heard an overdrive I like. The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 i= s nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? It's still on my pedal b= oard and always pushing. It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair t= o the tone. It's driving my beloved Ethos. >>=20 >> I wonder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? The memory is lost i= n the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age. >>=20 >> Don't like the Analogman King Of Tone. Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy= , but only used sparingly. Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off t= he pedalboard. Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals. Should proba= bly sell them but ya never know when you're going to need that specific thin= g. >>=20 >> I still think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying f= or help. Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio h= ere. When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kids a= nd neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. The wife files fo= r divorce. >>=20 >> Recently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). Will have to buy it a= nd see if I'm finally getting REALLY old. >> Will check out Zendrive. Anything Bill likes Richard likes. >>=20 >> What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? Is it called an H9 or= something? I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it. >>=20 >> R >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker w= rote: >>>> As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes t= weaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my re= commendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because t= hey weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. Which is odd b= ecause i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get a consensus on= what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, and most everyone is= enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front of a tube amp. In fact= its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 years that has remained a c= onstant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use flitting from board to board.= I find it interesting that Custom Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean c= hannel only version of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the clean c= hannel and love other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, the d= irty channel simply doesn't saturate as much as other drives they are used t= o. For me, because I switch from instruments with thick strings and humbucki= ng pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciate th= e more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty channel because it does= n't get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it h= arder with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra satura= tion with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with mo= deled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one really goo= d one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth. >>> Bill >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> richard sales >> www.glasswing.com >>=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail-BAAF7C73-7F07-4E01-93B8-E41585B4E645 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was amazed that the H9 does not have= a Unive,or am i wrong?

On 27.05.2014, at 20:00, Chris Muir &l= t;cbm@well.com> wrote:

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
I've considered the Ethos because of size, b= ut I already have a rack preamp with a nice clean channel that reacts nicely= to being pushed, so I haven't been able to rationalize the cost. I do love t= he size, though. 

The overdrive that I would l= ove to evaluate is the Simble. =46rom the online demos, it sounds like it's g= oing to do the most convincing Dumbleish overdrive. 

The Eventide H9 is a wonderful little device, particularly if you hav= e an iOS device. You can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It c= an run any of the algorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well a= s a few unique H9 algos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and= the H9 Core. The difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are $= 20 each, and you can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9. 

S= ent from my magic glass.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Richard= Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:

Used it a lot when touring with a C= ollings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup into the Magnatone 213.  Ethos s= aved my butt in Japan when backline only had AC30s.  Got rave reviews i= n the papers and magazines there for the tone and power.

Sometimes I used the overdrive cha= nnel for a touch of extra stuff, but not often. 

My only com= plaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say, a bu= tterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point!

I've never r= eally heard an overdrive I like.  The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is nice, b= ut I'm so conservative... what do I know?  It's still on my pedal board= and always pushing.  It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair= to the tone.  It's driving my beloved Ethos.

I wonder if it was YOU who inspire= d me to get mine?  The memory is lost in the exhaust fumes and rear vie= w mirror of old age.

Don't like the Analogman King Of T= one.  Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy, but only used sparingly.  = ;Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off the pedalboard.  Lots o= f pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals.  Should probably sell them but= ya never know when you're going to need that specific thing.

I still think the best overdrive i= s an amp approaching death and crying for help.  Am hoping to build som= e kind of box for doing that in the studio here.  When the music gets w= ay loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kids and neighbors all start stu= ttering and walking in circles.  The wife files for divorce.

Recently heard and liked the Wampl= er Velvet (fuzz).  Will have to buy it and see if I'm finally getting R= EALLY old.
Will check out Zendri= ve.  Anything Bill likes Richard likes.

What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box?   Is it called an H9 o= r something?  I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it.

R



On Tue, May 2= 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
As Bill Walker will tell you= , the Ethos is a totally magic box.  Takes tweaking but it's the one gi= zmo that's always on!


Its funny y= ou say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my recommendati= on, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because t= hey weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them.  Which is= odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get a c= onsensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, and most e= veryone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front of a tube am= p. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 years that has r= emained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use flitting from boar= d to board.  I find it interesting that Custom Tones (Ethos) w= ill be unveiling a clean channel only version of the Ethos this summer, for p= eeps who love the clean channel and love other drives pushing it, w= hich I do. I think for some, the dirty channel simply doesn't=  saturate as much as other drives they are used to. For me, because I s= witch from instruments with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones wit= h thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less d= istorted response of the dirty channel because it doesn't&nbs= p;get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it har= der with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra saturati= on with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with = ;modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one re= ally good one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth.
 B= ill



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richard sales
www.glasswing.com


= --Apple-Mail-BAAF7C73-7F07-4E01-93B8-E41585B4E645-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 21:28:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FBF1183586; Tue, 27 May 2014 21:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Chris Muir Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:27:14 -0700 References: <5AB772E4-B34C-4B24-9204-607D4FCABF14@well.com> <631CB55B-5319-49F2-9D92-3BB24EDB194A@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <631CB55B-5319-49F2-9D92-3BB24EDB194A@yahoo.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D167) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:28:15 +0000 (UTC) No, and it's not an effect I have much familiarity with, but some people hav= e come up with some settings that work for them using, I think, the Phaser a= lgorithm.=20 - C _____ Is that a computer in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? > On May 27, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: >=20 > I was amazed that the H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 22:05:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9E8E18357F; Tue, 27 May 2014 22:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UP7VCEtheDxIsmSdlubKtt52FoW19MOq+yCTS2XprRA=; b=MsL2W++L/SePpkpeG9nXujkXtj1dKGPehdESIvcjoKWf2q0M57aeaSSHfC4CUUZHmC +uAuj+V/9gJz0uVywR2z7AUNCAy+sBpnwmr9huMFYAY0vEWrrgBLaq5frxYfKYdg2vC+ hVMIPxUOuvRoBjx4YGxab7lDChxwtEpaLLFe5yzLg3//7eyzErhOc4FFROgdkN7jWLOz /TEsfm2vR7x7Ld8Is/ILENNdV+h/hifLpSOEjP/aF6m54IJmBvB4ZS1+RfVpLpbN5g2g LKrYWE8g7UvtnwgXyWoNROoBM3jxwuI19xsr2dRxWwSc1wPHvIb5WeZLNDfw1nMXzfZn XHrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.69.19.139 with SMTP id gu11mr39907849pbd.36.1401228267248; Tue, 27 May 2014 15:04:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000001cf79d3$0def2330$29cd6990$@mpeters.de> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:04:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a polyphonic harmonizer in bidule From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113673741f131304fa68e1c8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 22:05:17 +0000 (UTC) --001a113673741f131304fa68e1c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polyphonic adapter works well for me. I don't have your particular plugin=E2=80=8B, but the principle should be the same. I've made a short video for you: http://youtu.be/F5759h9sjr0 Sylvain --001a113673741f131304fa68e1c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Polyphonic adapter works well for me. =C2=A0I don't ha= ve your particular plugin=E2=80=8B, but the principle should be the same. = =C2=A0

I've made a short video for you:
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--001a113673741f131304fa68e1c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 22:05:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54038183583; Tue, 27 May 2014 22:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ncnvXCNvXEssSE5wNddfmCJfptPx9oQcNcODpZNjCLM=; b=YwVwCnyXu0UI9t1JMLmt+XnJJokJU7Hqe+epD+c4etoh2nqlh8hZgVhDaq6h1Jy6+k zAnlZXI4EX6MSV65/36VT/HYF36f/1lXA2DBcz8l0no6h3VK18i5RP5Ybg/bbCPI1e6m +KxVgEAVUfHN7x7TxwXzeh+YiJAU+tNb+jeblzHLtoBCCldlqbyGdm6GUkuE17nMdirG S/YQDdti/YXoSel4Y31bII/qyrNae6b8pd+MvXbAK6y+ZtZlIQy3+6yDJZN/mq51rRo8 FaHDmi4gQqwmcx5kz2DtHc05E9Gu3dZ0hmN43N/wM7pYXpNBh9UnNcTIDuUIRb2Cus5B MN6g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnh1l1yA8WhtZqtlGxJXvVIy2dc3ehXvl98oCnWLKUsndM7h9nqOZxPHvKhKXxb38mzV/2G MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.184.198 with SMTP id ew6mr40156841wic.13.1401228306492; Tue, 27 May 2014 15:05:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <631CB55B-5319-49F2-9D92-3BB24EDB194A@yahoo.com> References: <5AB772E4-B34C-4B24-9204-607D4FCABF14@well.com> <631CB55B-5319-49F2-9D92-3BB24EDB194A@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:05:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3348c75491304fa68e3ac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 22:05:57 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c3348c75491304fa68e3ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Are you meaning Univibe? I love my FoxRox Aquavibe! And just to put it through its paces I just recorded a slide thing on the Tele using the Ethos overdrive. Wasn't bad at all. Sounded sort of like a tortured feral cat or something. I DO like the Simble thing though. The demo sounds really terrific. Have to add it to my next Descent into Gear Gluttony Event. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > I was amazed that the H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong? > > On 27.05.2014, at 20:00, Chris Muir wrote: > > I've considered the Ethos because of size, but I already have a rack > preamp with a nice clean channel that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I > haven't been able to rationalize the cost. I do love the size, though. > > The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simble. From the online > demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most convincing Dumbleish > overdrive. > > The Eventide H9 is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have an > iOS device. You can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can > run any of the algorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as > a few unique H9 algos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and > the H9 Core. The difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are > $20 each, and you can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9. > > Sent from my magic glass. > > On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Richard Sales wrote: > > Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple > times. That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear > no ice pick nice top end, single coils. And I do use it in front of tube > amps - mostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. > > Used it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup > into the Magnatone 213. Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only > had AC30s. Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone > and power. > > Sometimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not > often. > > My only complaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting > if, say, a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point! > > I've never really heard an overdrive I like. The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 > is nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? It's still on my pedal > board and always pushing. It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel > hair to the tone. It's driving my beloved Ethos. > > I wonder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? The memory is lost in > the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age. > > Don't like the Analogman King Of Tone. Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy, > but only used sparingly. Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off > the pedalboard. Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals. Should > probably sell them but ya never know when you're going to need that > specific thing. > > I still think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying > for help. Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio > here. When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand > kids and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. The wife > files for divorce. > > Recently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). Will have to buy it > and see if I'm finally getting REALLY old. > Will check out Zendrive. Anything Bill likes Richard likes. > > What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? Is it called an H9 or > something? I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it. > > R > > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker wrote: > >> As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes >> tweaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! >> >> >> >> Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my >> recommendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, >> because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. >> Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to >> get a consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, >> and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front >> of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 >> years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use >> flitting from board to board. I find it interesting that Custom Tones >> (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version of the Ethos this >> summer, for peeps who love the clean channel and love other drives pushing >> it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty channel simply doesn't saturate >> as much as other drives they are used to. For me, because I switch from >> instruments with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin >> strings and single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less >> distorted response of the dirty channel because it doesn't get too >> compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it harder with >> another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra saturation with >> the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing >> with modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one >> really good one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth. >> Bill >> > > > > -- > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --001a11c3348c75491304fa68e3ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are= you meaning Univibe?
I love my FoxRox Aquavibe!
And just to put it through its paces I just recorded a slide thing on the T= ele using the Ethos overdrive. =C2=A0Wasn't bad at all.
Sounded sort of like a torture= d feral cat or something.
I DO like the Simble= thing though. =C2=A0The demo sounds really terrific. =C2=A0

Have to add it to my next Descent into Gear Gluttony Event.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at= 2:04 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>
I was amazed that the= H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong?

On 27.05.2014, at 20= :00, Chris Muir <cbm@w= ell.com> wrote:

I've considered the Ethos= because of size, but I already have a rack preamp with a nice clean channe= l that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I haven't been able to rationa= lize the cost. I do love the size, though.=C2=A0

The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simb= le. From the online demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most con= vincing Dumbleish overdrive.=C2=A0

The Eventide H9= is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have an iOS device. You = can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can run any of the al= gorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as a few unique H9 a= lgos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and the H9 Core. The = difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are $20 each, and you= can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9.=C2=A0

Sent from my magic glass.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, R= ichard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
Well, tell you the truth Bi= ll, I have only used the overdrive a couple times. =C2=A0That's because= of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no ice pick nice top en= d, single coils. =C2=A0And I do use it in front of tube amps - mostly the b= lackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. =C2=A0

Use= d it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup int= o the Magnatone 213. =C2=A0Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only = had AC30s. =C2=A0Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the= tone and power.

Som= etimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not oft= en.=C2=A0

My only complaint is the knobs mov= e so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say, a butterfly passes by = the studio and blows the knobs off point!

I've never really heard an ove= rdrive I like. =C2=A0The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is nice, but I'm so con= servative... what do I know? =C2=A0It's still on my pedal board and alw= ays pushing. =C2=A0It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair to the= tone. =C2=A0It's driving my beloved Ethos.

I w= onder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? =C2=A0The memory is lost i= n the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age.

Don= 't like the Analogman King Of Tone. =C2=A0Sort of like the Hip Kitty th= ingy, but only used sparingly. =C2=A0Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's = wandered off the pedalboard. =C2=A0Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected p= edals. =C2=A0Should probably sell them but ya never know when you're go= ing to need that specific thing.

I s= till think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying for he= lp. =C2=A0Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio = here. =C2=A0When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, gran= d kids and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. =C2=A0The= wife files for divorce.

Rec= ently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). =C2=A0Will have to buy it = and see if I'm finally getting REALLY old.
Will check out Zendrive. =C2=A0Anything Bill= likes Richard likes.

What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? =C2=A0 Is it called an H9= or something? =C2=A0I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it.

R



On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, b= ill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
As Bill Walker will tell = you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. =C2=A0Takes tweaking but it's th= e one gizmo that's always on!


Its funny = you say that Richard, I've=C2=A0had a few people buy these on my recomm= endation, and I'm=C2=A0surprised=C2=A0that a few of them took me to tas= k, because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for the= m. =C2=A0Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its = harder to get a=C2=A0consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than goo= d clean tone, and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct = and in front of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in t= he last 6 years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plent= y of use flitting from board to board. =C2=A0I find it interesting that=C2= =A0Custom=C2=A0Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version= of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the clean=C2=A0channel=C2=A0a= nd love other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty=C2= =A0channel=C2=A0simply=C2=A0doesn't=C2=A0saturate as much as other driv= es they are used to. For me, because I switch from instruments with thick s= trings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pic= kups I appreciate the more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty=C2= =A0channel=C2=A0because it=C2=A0doesn't=C2=A0get too compressed and mud= dy with the former, and I can always push it harder with another drive, cle= an boost, or compressor to get the extra saturation with the later. When I = bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with=C2=A0modeled=C2=A0amps and I = didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one really good one. I hav= e definitely gotten my monies worth.
=C2=A0Bill
=



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--001a11c3348c75491304fa68e3ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 22:25:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 826D4183580; Tue, 27 May 2014 22:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=r4YJ3lVj2IOOKhqFzk0E6cEmaPJ6kSWD3LNcZvnwr10=; b=0gnpVICh4gYlwscYabXvUdKTCfCZr/6IR7+GiYnigvaXJUUPp49cCulxhaBGYRryaF WLMChpTD3JX98WFg1jrAZ6Uax3m4dZf/W+9vQeogVL/rcgH3wrzFsnA3OA1xnOEWHpD/ R5SIv4TDiDE/2+OUdgSnUypZNZkkHpEIvbvLz2aLPWxF8GzRUZ43ZoaK/xBaNL1DutJA cqNQSk6/CkYda0kx14edVpz5bcSGF6H41e5DD8SsPsqJxasOG13cWT4BNqA/Zpv7nPFD Np/y518OCDdN+EMvuZW3CtnnKGMCLX5CC62EjOeHBxYzSXCYHS2e4VtX+VzZgjmMB9Ko 0eBg== X-Received: by 10.182.104.101 with SMTP id gd5mr36086257obb.54.1401229467292; Tue, 27 May 2014 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale References: <5AB772E4-B34C-4B24-9204-607D4FCABF14@well.com> <631CB55B-5319-49F2-9D92-3BB24EDB194A@yahoo.com> From: Miles Ward Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-981C7E61-5901-4D39-A358-29CA85C298BB X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D167) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <89CAB655-650D-4FB3-9A1F-826B6D66FD65@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:24:23 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 22:25:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-981C7E61-5901-4D39-A358-29CA85C298BB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, all of this is making me excited. Spoiler: thread hijack below. Any thoughts on a good pedal combo for electric sousaphone? (Tuba) I've been= using a swollen pickle and a kaoss pad, but I'd like a sound more like a ro= bot tyrannosaurus leading the transformers to war, or the USS Missouri stand= ing up and breakdancing, or a Atlassian DJ spinning tectonic plates... Thoughts? -Miles > On May 27, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Richard Sales wrote: >=20 > Are you meaning Univibe? > I love my FoxRox Aquavibe! > And just to put it through its paces I just recorded a slide thing on the T= ele using the Ethos overdrive. Wasn't bad at all. > Sounded sort of like a tortured feral cat or something. > I DO like the Simble thing though. The demo sounds really terrific. =20 >=20 > Have to add it to my next Descent into Gear Gluttony Event. >=20 >=20 >> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Louie Angulo wr= ote: >> I was amazed that the H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong? >>=20 >>> On 27.05.2014, at 20:00, Chris Muir wrote: >>>=20 >>> I've considered the Ethos because of size, but I already have a rack pre= amp with a nice clean channel that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I haven= 't been able to rationalize the cost. I do love the size, though.=20 >>>=20 >>> The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simble. =46rom the on= line demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most convincing Dumbleish ov= erdrive.=20 >>>=20 >>> The Eventide H9 is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have a= n iOS device. You can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can r= un any of the algorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as a f= ew unique H9 algos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and the H= 9 Core. The difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are $20 ea= ch, and you can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9.=20 >>>=20 >>> Sent from my magic glass. >>>=20 >>>> On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Richard Sales wro= te: >>>> Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple t= imes. That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no i= ce pick nice top end, single coils. And I do use it in front of tube amps -= mostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Used it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup i= nto the Magnatone 213. Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only had A= C30s. Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone and p= ower. >>>>=20 >>>> Sometimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but n= ot often.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> My only complaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setti= ng if, say, a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point! >>>>=20 >>>> I've never really heard an overdrive I like. The Creation Audio Mk.4.2= 3 is nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? It's still on my peda= l board and always pushing. It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel ha= ir to the tone. It's driving my beloved Ethos. >>>>=20 >>>> I wonder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? The memory is lost= in the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age. >>>>=20 >>>> Don't like the Analogman King Of Tone. Sort of like the Hip Kitty thin= gy, but only used sparingly. Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off= the pedalboard. Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals. Should pro= bably sell them but ya never know when you're going to need that specific th= ing. >>>>=20 >>>> I still think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying= for help. Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio= here. When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand kid= s and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. The wife files= for divorce. >>>>=20 >>>> Recently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). Will have to buy i= t and see if I'm finally getting REALLY old. >>>> Will check out Zendrive. Anything Bill likes Richard likes. >>>>=20 >>>> What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? Is it called an H9 o= r something? I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it. >>>>=20 >>>> R >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker wrote: >>>>>> As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Take= s tweaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my r= ecommendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because= they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. Which is od= d because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get a consensus= on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, and most everyone= is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front of a tube amp. In f= act its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 years that has remained= a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use flitting from board to bo= ard. I find it interesting that Custom Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a cl= ean channel only version of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the cl= ean channel and love other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, t= he dirty channel simply doesn't saturate as much as other drives they are us= ed to. For me, because I switch from instruments with thick strings and humb= ucking pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciat= e the more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty channel because it d= oesn't get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push i= t harder with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra sat= uration with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with= modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one really g= ood one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth. >>>>> Bill >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> richard sales >>>> www.glasswing.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-981C7E61-5901-4D39-A358-29CA85C298BB Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, all of this is making me excited. S= poiler: thread hijack below.

Any thoughts on a good= pedal combo for electric sousaphone? (Tuba) I've been using a swollen pickl= e and a kaoss pad, but I'd like a sound more like a robot tyrannosaurus lead= ing the transformers to war, or the USS Missouri standing up and breakdancin= g, or a Atlassian DJ spinning tectonic plates...

Th= oughts?

-Miles

On May 27, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Richard Sal= es <richard@glasswing.com>= ; wrote:

Are you meaning Univibe?
I love my FoxRox A= quavibe!
And just to put it through its paces I just recorded a slide thing on the Te= le using the Ethos overdrive.  Wasn't bad at all.
Sounded sort of like a tortured feral= cat or something.
I DO like the Simble t= hing though.  The demo sounds really terrific.  

Have to add it to my next Descent into Gear Gluttony Event.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:0= 4 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote:
I was amazed that the H= 9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong?

On 27.05.2014, at 20:00= , Chris Muir <cbm@well.= com> wrote:

I've considered the Ethos beca= use of size, but I already have a rack preamp with a nice clean channel that= reacts nicely to being pushed, so I haven't been able to rationalize the co= st. I do love the size, though. 

The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simbl= e. =46rom the online demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most convinc= ing Dumbleish overdrive. 

The Eventide H9 is a= wonderful little device, particularly if you have an iOS device. You can ed= it it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can run any of the algorithm= s from the Space and the Factor series, as well as a few unique H9 algos. Th= ere are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and the H9 Core. The differenc= e is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are $20 each, and you can try t= hem for 5 minutes a day on your H9. 

Sent from my magic glass.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Ri= chard Sales <r= ichard@glasswing.com> wrote:
=
Well, tell you the truth Bil= l, I have only used the overdrive a couple times.  That's because of th= e sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no ice pick nice top end, sing= le coils.  And I do use it in front of tube amps - mostly the blackface= Vibrolux and Victoria 45410.  

Used= it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup into t= he Magnatone 213.  Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only had A= C30s.  Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone a= nd power.

Some= times I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not often= . 

My only complaint is the knobs move= so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say, a butterfly passes by the st= udio and blows the knobs off point!

I've never really heard an overdriv= e I like.  The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is nice, but I'm so conservative.= .. what do I know?  It's still on my pedal board and always pushing. &n= bsp;It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair to the tone.  It'= s driving my beloved Ethos.

I wo= nder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine?  The memory is lost in t= he exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age.

Don'= t like the Analogman King Of Tone.  Sort of like the Hip Kitty thingy, b= ut only used sparingly.  Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's wandered off= the pedalboard.  Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected pedals.  = Should probably sell them but ya never know when you're going to need that s= pecific thing.

I st= ill think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying for help= .  Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio her= e.  When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand ki= ds and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles.  The wife= files for divorce.

Rece= ntly heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz).  Will have to buy it an= d see if I'm finally getting REALLY old.
Will check out Zendrive.  Anything Bill l= ikes Richard likes.

What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box?   Is it called an H9 o= r something?  I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it.

R



On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bil= l walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
As Bill Walker will tell you= , the Ethos is a totally magic box.  Takes tweaking but it's the one gi= zmo that's always on!


Its funny y= ou say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my recommendati= on, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, because t= hey weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them.  Which is= odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to get a c= onsensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, and most e= veryone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front of a tube am= p. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 years that has r= emained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use flitting from boar= d to board.  I find it interesting that Custom Tones (Ethos) w= ill be unveiling a clean channel only version of the Ethos this summer, for p= eeps who love the clean channel and love other drives pushing it, w= hich I do. I think for some, the dirty channel simply doesn't=  saturate as much as other drives they are used to. For me, because I s= witch from instruments with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones wit= h thin strings and single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less d= istorted response of the dirty channel because it doesn't&nbs= p;get too compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it har= der with another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra saturati= on with the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with = ;modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one re= ally good one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth.
 Bill
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= --Apple-Mail-981C7E61-5901-4D39-A358-29CA85C298BB-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 27 22:46:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29E2618357F; Tue, 27 May 2014 22:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jxljceg6/5xSQbOmiRDDQ20quoVpGQRLaUmcm02s3Zw=; b=oBE50RkPz3cvNUxCxZTAH1WxLdWwKVk7A3bA29TdcEabSVjn1wId642FNnZIvgXD/F EDMqBeNalhYAtDO92w+LPzBA/e+ErKpU8R+oSI31QWQuhbdqeTFCJs4GCAin6gJiNnj0 pON8z8uGfvXd5kUuFWbvQAiOZbSeQAA1CGctSHJsOntgQ+q3g2FygL/K/yxtMKhoS22O I+tNwLUMkmbqItklETYWu5aui8z4AUvwZrUvT3b44g2NnhwyefC0EtNI3TRJA0wYmIa8 pxMQS5GQh9mw3vAX141Ft6z3NBncY+SEm9UCLa/GYp4HiFmluxjUkZZGlsDbjnuFUYn6 tfIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.67.201 with SMTP id s9mr47671785qai.29.1401230739686; Tue, 27 May 2014 15:45:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <89CAB655-650D-4FB3-9A1F-826B6D66FD65@gmail.com> References: <5AB772E4-B34C-4B24-9204-607D4FCABF14@well.com> <631CB55B-5319-49F2-9D92-3BB24EDB194A@yahoo.com> <89CAB655-650D-4FB3-9A1F-826B6D66FD65@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:45:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale From: Phil Clevenger To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c303d47cccef04fa69747f Resent-Message-ID: <7WFGgD.A.C3F.GXRhTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 22:46:30 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c303d47cccef04fa69747f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Simble looks interesting... On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Miles Ward wrote: > Ok, all of this is making me excited. Spoiler: thread hijack below. > > Any thoughts on a good pedal combo for electric sousaphone? (Tuba) I've > been using a swollen pickle and a kaoss pad, but I'd like a sound more like > a robot tyrannosaurus leading the transformers to war, or the USS Missouri > standing up and breakdancing, or a Atlassian DJ spinning tectonic plates... > > Thoughts? > > -Miles > > On May 27, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > > Are you meaning Univibe? > I love my FoxRox Aquavibe! > And just to put it through its paces I just recorded a slide thing on the > Tele using the Ethos overdrive. Wasn't bad at all. > Sounded sort of like a tortured feral cat or something. > I DO like the Simble thing though. The demo sounds really terrific. > > Have to add it to my next Descent into Gear Gluttony Event. > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> I was amazed that the H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong? >> >> On 27.05.2014, at 20:00, Chris Muir wrote: >> >> I've considered the Ethos because of size, but I already have a rack >> preamp with a nice clean channel that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I >> haven't been able to rationalize the cost. I do love the size, though. >> >> The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simble. From the >> online demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most convincing Dumbleish >> overdrive. >> >> The Eventide H9 is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have an >> iOS device. You can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can >> run any of the algorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as >> a few unique H9 algos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and >> the H9 Core. The difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are >> $20 each, and you can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9. >> >> Sent from my magic glass. >> >> On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Richard Sales >> wrote: >> >> Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple >> times. That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear >> no ice pick nice top end, single coils. And I do use it in front of tube >> amps - mostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. >> >> Used it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup >> into the Magnatone 213. Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only >> had AC30s. Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone >> and power. >> >> Sometimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but >> not often. >> >> My only complaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting >> if, say, a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point! >> >> I've never really heard an overdrive I like. The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 >> is nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? It's still on my pedal >> board and always pushing. It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel >> hair to the tone. It's driving my beloved Ethos. >> >> I wonder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? The memory is lost >> in the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age. >> >> Don't like the Analogman King Of Tone. Sort of like the Hip Kitty >> thingy, but only used sparingly. Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's >> wandered off the pedalboard. Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected >> pedals. Should probably sell them but ya never know when you're going to >> need that specific thing. >> >> I still think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying >> for help. Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio >> here. When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand >> kids and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. The wife >> files for divorce. >> >> Recently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). Will have to buy it >> and see if I'm finally getting REALLY old. >> Will check out Zendrive. Anything Bill likes Richard likes. >> >> What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? Is it called an H9 or >> something? I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it. >> >> R >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker wrote: >> >>> As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes >>> tweaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! >>> >>> >>> >>> Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my >>> recommendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, >>> because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. >>> Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to >>> get a consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, >>> and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front >>> of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 >>> years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use >>> flitting from board to board. I find it interesting that Custom Tones >>> (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version of the Ethos this >>> summer, for peeps who love the clean channel and love other drives pushing >>> it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty channel simply doesn't saturate >>> as much as other drives they are used to. For me, because I switch from >>> instruments with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin >>> strings and single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less >>> distorted response of the dirty channel because it doesn't get too >>> compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it harder with >>> another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra saturation with >>> the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing >>> with modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one >>> really good one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth. >>> Bill >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> richard sales >> www.glasswing.com >> >> >> > > > -- > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > > > --001a11c303d47cccef04fa69747f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Simble looks interesting...


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Miles= Ward <miles932@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, all of this is ma= king me excited. Spoiler: thread hijack below.

Any= thoughts on a good pedal combo for electric sousaphone? (Tuba) I've be= en using a swollen pickle and a kaoss pad, but I'd like a sound more li= ke a robot tyrannosaurus leading the transformers to war, or the USS Missou= ri standing up and breakdancing, or a Atlassian DJ spinning tectonic plates= ...

Thoughts?

-Miles

On May 2= 7, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:

Are you meaning Univibe?
I love my FoxRox Aquavibe!<= /div>
And just to put it through its paces I just recorded a slide thing on the T= ele using the Ethos overdrive. =C2=A0Wasn't bad at all.
Sounded sort of like a torture= d feral cat or something.
I DO like the Simble= thing though. =C2=A0The demo sounds really terrific. =C2=A0

Have to add it to my next Descent into Gear Gluttony Event.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at= 2:04 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>
I was amazed that the= H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong?

On 27.05.2014, at 20= :00, Chris Muir <cbm@w= ell.com> wrote:

I've considered the Ethos= because of size, but I already have a rack preamp with a nice clean channe= l that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I haven't been able to rationa= lize the cost. I do love the size, though.=C2=A0

The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simb= le. From the online demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most con= vincing Dumbleish overdrive.=C2=A0

The Eventide H9= is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have an iOS device. You = can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can run any of the al= gorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as a few unique H9 a= lgos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and the H9 Core. The = difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are $20 each, and you= can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9.=C2=A0

Sent from my magic glass.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, R= ichard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
Well, tell you the truth Bi= ll, I have only used the overdrive a couple times. =C2=A0That's because= of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no ice pick nice top en= d, single coils. =C2=A0And I do use it in front of tube amps - mostly the b= lackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. =C2=A0

Use= d it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup int= o the Magnatone 213. =C2=A0Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only = had AC30s. =C2=A0Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the= tone and power.

Som= etimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not oft= en.=C2=A0

My only complaint is the knobs mov= e so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say, a butterfly passes by = the studio and blows the knobs off point!

I've never really heard an ove= rdrive I like. =C2=A0The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is nice, but I'm so con= servative... what do I know? =C2=A0It's still on my pedal board and alw= ays pushing. =C2=A0It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair to the= tone. =C2=A0It's driving my beloved Ethos.

I w= onder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? =C2=A0The memory is lost i= n the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age.

Don= 't like the Analogman King Of Tone. =C2=A0Sort of like the Hip Kitty th= ingy, but only used sparingly. =C2=A0Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's = wandered off the pedalboard. =C2=A0Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected p= edals. =C2=A0Should probably sell them but ya never know when you're go= ing to need that specific thing.

I s= till think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying for he= lp. =C2=A0Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio = here. =C2=A0When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, gran= d kids and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. =C2=A0The= wife files for divorce.

Rec= ently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). =C2=A0Will have to buy it = and see if I'm finally getting REALLY old.
Will check out Zendrive. =C2=A0Anything Bill= likes Richard likes.

What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? =C2=A0 Is it called an H9= or something? =C2=A0I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it.

R



On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, b= ill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
As Bill Walker will tell = you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. =C2=A0Takes tweaking but it's th= e one gizmo that's always on!


Its funny = you say that Richard, I've=C2=A0had a few people buy these on my recomm= endation, and I'm=C2=A0surprised=C2=A0that a few of them took me to tas= k, because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for the= m. =C2=A0Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its = harder to get a=C2=A0consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than goo= d clean tone, and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct = and in front of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in t= he last 6 years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plent= y of use flitting from board to board. =C2=A0I find it interesting that=C2= =A0Custom=C2=A0Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version= of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the clean=C2=A0channel=C2=A0a= nd love other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty=C2= =A0channel=C2=A0simply=C2=A0doesn't=C2=A0saturate as much as other driv= es they are used to. For me, because I switch from instruments with thick s= trings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pic= kups I appreciate the more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty=C2= =A0channel=C2=A0because it=C2=A0doesn't=C2=A0get too compressed and mud= dy with the former, and I can always push it harder with another drive, cle= an boost, or compressor to get the extra saturation with the later. When I = bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with=C2=A0modeled=C2=A0amps and I = didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one really good one. I hav= e definitely gotten my monies worth.
=C2=A0Bill
=



--
richard sales
www.glasswing.com





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I would check out some of the Earthquaker stuff. Amazing crazy sounds. I can't remember which, but I remember hearing one - I THINK it had some kind of hippie rainbow on it or something - that could get that USS Missouri effect. Kind of like a harmonizer on LSD with extra goober lunacy tossed in. Also that Union Pedal Company. Might be Union Electronics. It's in Vancouver BC. Jack White has a pedal they made that he sells. Sounds more like a 48" Husqvarna chainsaw than a stomp box. If you're looking for that serious buzzsaw effect, they seemed like they might be just the ticket. Just checked - it's called Union Tube And Transistor. Jack White's pedal is called The THird Man I believe. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Miles Ward wrote: > Ok, all of this is making me excited. Spoiler: thread hijack below. > > Any thoughts on a good pedal combo for electric sousaphone? (Tuba) I've > been using a swollen pickle and a kaoss pad, but I'd like a sound more like > a robot tyrannosaurus leading the transformers to war, or the USS Missouri > standing up and breakdancing, or a Atlassian DJ spinning tectonic plates... > > Thoughts? > > -Miles > > On May 27, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > > Are you meaning Univibe? > I love my FoxRox Aquavibe! > And just to put it through its paces I just recorded a slide thing on the > Tele using the Ethos overdrive. Wasn't bad at all. > Sounded sort of like a tortured feral cat or something. > I DO like the Simble thing though. The demo sounds really terrific. > > Have to add it to my next Descent into Gear Gluttony Event. > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> I was amazed that the H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong? >> >> On 27.05.2014, at 20:00, Chris Muir wrote: >> >> I've considered the Ethos because of size, but I already have a rack >> preamp with a nice clean channel that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I >> haven't been able to rationalize the cost. I do love the size, though. >> >> The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simble. From the >> online demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most convincing Dumbleish >> overdrive. >> >> The Eventide H9 is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have an >> iOS device. You can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can >> run any of the algorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as >> a few unique H9 algos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and >> the H9 Core. The difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are >> $20 each, and you can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9. >> >> Sent from my magic glass. >> >> On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Richard Sales >> wrote: >> >> Well, tell you the truth Bill, I have only used the overdrive a couple >> times. That's because of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear >> no ice pick nice top end, single coils. And I do use it in front of tube >> amps - mostly the blackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. >> >> Used it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup >> into the Magnatone 213. Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only >> had AC30s. Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the tone >> and power. >> >> Sometimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but >> not often. >> >> My only complaint is the knobs move so easily it's easy to lose a setting >> if, say, a butterfly passes by the studio and blows the knobs off point! >> >> I've never really heard an overdrive I like. The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 >> is nice, but I'm so conservative... what do I know? It's still on my pedal >> board and always pushing. It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel >> hair to the tone. It's driving my beloved Ethos. >> >> I wonder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? The memory is lost >> in the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age. >> >> Don't like the Analogman King Of Tone. Sort of like the Hip Kitty >> thingy, but only used sparingly. Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's >> wandered off the pedalboard. Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected >> pedals. Should probably sell them but ya never know when you're going to >> need that specific thing. >> >> I still think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying >> for help. Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio >> here. When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, grand >> kids and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. The wife >> files for divorce. >> >> Recently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). Will have to buy it >> and see if I'm finally getting REALLY old. >> Will check out Zendrive. Anything Bill likes Richard likes. >> >> What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? Is it called an H9 or >> something? I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it. >> >> R >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, bill walker wrote: >> >>> As Bill Walker will tell you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. Takes >>> tweaking but it's the one gizmo that's always on! >>> >>> >>> >>> Its funny you say that Richard, I've had a few people buy these on my >>> recommendation, and I'm surprised that a few of them took me to task, >>> because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for them. >>> Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its harder to >>> get a consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than good clean tone, >>> and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct and in front >>> of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in the last 6 >>> years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plenty of use >>> flitting from board to board. I find it interesting that Custom Tones >>> (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version of the Ethos this >>> summer, for peeps who love the clean channel and love other drives pushing >>> it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty channel simply doesn't saturate >>> as much as other drives they are used to. For me, because I switch from >>> instruments with thick strings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin >>> strings and single coil pickups I appreciate the more dynamic, less >>> distorted response of the dirty channel because it doesn't get too >>> compressed and muddy with the former, and I can always push it harder with >>> another drive, clean boost, or compressor to get the extra saturation with >>> the later. When I bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing >>> with modeled amps and I didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one >>> really good one. I have definitely gotten my monies worth. >>> Bill >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> richard sales >> www.glasswing.com >> >> >> > > > -- > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --089e01229990df494204fa6a663c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mil= es!
I would che= ck out some of the Earthquaker stuff. =C2=A0Amazing crazy sounds. =C2=A0I c= an't remember which, but I remember hearing one - I THINK it had some k= ind of hippie rainbow on it or something - that could get that USS Missouri= effect. =C2=A0Kind of like a harmonizer on LSD with extra goober lunacy to= ssed in.

Also that Union Pedal Company.= =C2=A0Might be Union Electronics. =C2=A0It's in Vancouver BC. =C2=A0Ja= ck White has a pedal they made that he sells. =C2=A0Sounds more like a 48&q= uot; Husqvarna chainsaw than a stomp box. =C2=A0If you're looking for t= hat serious buzzsaw effect, they seemed like they might be just the ticket.=

Just checked - it's called= Union Tube And Transistor. =C2=A0Jack White's pedal is called The THir= d Man I believe.


On Tue, May 2= 7, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Miles Ward <miles932@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Ok, all of this is making me excited. Spoiler: threa= d hijack below.

Any thoughts on a good pedal combo= for electric sousaphone? (Tuba) I've been using a swollen pickle and a= kaoss pad, but I'd like a sound more like a robot tyrannosaurus leadin= g the transformers to war, or the USS Missouri standing up and breakdancing= , or a Atlassian DJ spinning tectonic plates...

Thoughts?

-Miles

On May 27, 2014, = at 3:05 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:

Are you meaning Univib= e?
I love my FoxRox Aquavibe!
And just to put it through its paces I just recorded a slide thing on the T= ele using the Ethos overdrive. =C2=A0Wasn't bad at all.
Sounded sort of like a tortured feral cat or something= .
I DO like the Simble thing though. =C2=A0The= demo sounds really terrific. =C2=A0
Have to add it to my next Descent into Gear Gluttony Event.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at= 2:04 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>
I was amazed that the= H9 does not have a Unive,or am i wrong?

On 27.05.2014, at 20= :00, Chris Muir <cbm@w= ell.com> wrote:

I've considered the Ethos= because of size, but I already have a rack preamp with a nice clean channe= l that reacts nicely to being pushed, so I haven't been able to rationa= lize the cost. I do love the size, though.=C2=A0

The overdrive that I would love to evaluate is the Simb= le. From the online demos, it sounds like it's going to do the most con= vincing Dumbleish overdrive.=C2=A0

The Eventide H9= is a wonderful little device, particularly if you have an iOS device. You = can edit it with a Mac or Windows machine as well. It can run any of the al= gorithms from the Space and the Factor series, as well as a few unique H9 a= lgos. There are two different ways to buy it, the H9, and the H9 Core. The = difference is what algorithms are bundled. Algorithms are $20 each, and you= can try them for 5 minutes a day on your H9.=C2=A0

Sent from my magic glass.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 AM, R= ichard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
Well, tell you the truth Bi= ll, I have only used the overdrive a couple times. =C2=A0That's because= of the sound I love - clean, lush, very fat, clear no ice pick nice top en= d, single coils. =C2=A0And I do use it in front of tube amps - mostly the b= lackface Vibrolux and Victoria 45410. =C2=A0

Use= d it a lot when touring with a Collings acoustic with K&K 3 way pup int= o the Magnatone 213. =C2=A0Ethos saved my butt in Japan when backline only = had AC30s. =C2=A0Got rave reviews in the papers and magazines there for the= tone and power.

Som= etimes I used the overdrive channel for a touch of extra stuff, but not oft= en.=C2=A0

My only complaint is the knobs mov= e so easily it's easy to lose a setting if, say, a butterfly passes by = the studio and blows the knobs off point!

I've never really heard an ove= rdrive I like. =C2=A0The Creation Audio Mk.4.23 is nice, but I'm so con= servative... what do I know? =C2=A0It's still on my pedal board and alw= ays pushing. =C2=A0It adds just a touch of oomph... downy angel hair to the= tone. =C2=A0It's driving my beloved Ethos.

I w= onder if it was YOU who inspired me to get mine? =C2=A0The memory is lost i= n the exhaust fumes and rear view mirror of old age.

Don= 't like the Analogman King Of Tone. =C2=A0Sort of like the Hip Kitty th= ingy, but only used sparingly. =C2=A0Durham Sex Drive is cool but it's = wandered off the pedalboard. =C2=A0Lots of pedals in my trunk of rejected p= edals. =C2=A0Should probably sell them but ya never know when you're go= ing to need that specific thing.

I s= till think the best overdrive is an amp approaching death and crying for he= lp. =C2=A0Am hoping to build some kind of box for doing that in the studio = here. =C2=A0When the music gets way loud, the bees, turkeys, chickens, gran= d kids and neighbors all start stuttering and walking in circles. =C2=A0The= wife files for divorce.

Rec= ently heard and liked the Wampler Velvet (fuzz). =C2=A0Will have to buy it = and see if I'm finally getting REALLY old.
Will check out Zendrive. =C2=A0Anything Bill= likes Richard likes.

What are folks thinking of that new Eventide box? =C2=A0 Is it called an H9= or something? =C2=A0I've liked SOME of what I've heard from it.

R



On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, b= ill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
As Bill Walker will tell = you, the Ethos is a totally magic box. =C2=A0Takes tweaking but it's th= e one gizmo that's always on!


Its funny = you say that Richard, I've=C2=A0had a few people buy these on my recomm= endation, and I'm=C2=A0surprised=C2=A0that a few of them took me to tas= k, because they weren't able to make the overdrive channel work for the= m. =C2=A0Which is odd because i didn't design or build it. I think its = harder to get a=C2=A0consensus on what constitutes good overdrive, than goo= d clean tone, and most everyone is enamored of its clean voice both direct = and in front of a tube amp. In fact its the one piece of gear Ive used in t= he last 6 years that has remained a constant. Though my Zendrive gets plent= y of use flitting from board to board. =C2=A0I find it interesting that=C2= =A0Custom=C2=A0Tones (Ethos) will be unveiling a clean channel only version= of the Ethos this summer, for peeps who love the clean=C2=A0channel=C2=A0a= nd love other drives pushing it, which I do. I think for some, the dirty=C2= =A0channel=C2=A0simply=C2=A0doesn't=C2=A0saturate as much as other driv= es they are used to. For me, because I switch from instruments with thick s= trings and humbucking pickups to ones with thin strings and single coil pic= kups I appreciate the more dynamic, less distorted response of the dirty=C2= =A0channel=C2=A0because it=C2=A0doesn't=C2=A0get too compressed and mud= dy with the former, and I can always push it harder with another drive, cle= an boost, or compressor to get the extra saturation with the later. When I = bought the Ethos, I was tired of messing with=C2=A0modeled=C2=A0amps and I = didn't need 57 varieties of amplifiers, just one really good one. I hav= e definitely gotten my monies worth.
=C2=A0Bill
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--089e01229990df494204fa6a663c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 00:00:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A28C018357D; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: bill walker Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale Message-id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:59:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaGBEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdGRAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdjY3kRCkNOF0sbGRpiTk0ZBB1/chl4c wceeBgZHxNhbREKWFwXGQQaBBsbB01OHxgYGBlLBRsdBBsfEgQbHB8EHRkQGx4aHxsRCl5ZF2F fWV5QEQpDWhcbHhgEGB8eBBsdBBgYGBEKQkUXekAbXX5jHEIdTBMRCkJOF2tFGlJQHkNcWVxoE QpCTBdpEl5SWUhkeBJuQxEKQmwXY0xJHVhjRnhrWloRCkJAF2lwTk4FG156YxNMEQpCWBdtUGd /TGtpaUIaBREKcGgXb2deTRtMfm9uQH4RCnBoF2BwbWYaa1xfARxCEQpwaBdoRV0TcENmH1NmH hEKcGgXZ0lHbB1rUl5Ha3MRCnBoF2cBHkl5S2sbclt4EQpwbBduTn1BZENeW2dLXxE= X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-27_06:2014-05-27,2014-05-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405270324 Resent-Message-ID: <_R7Ww.A.s0G.dcShTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 00:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Luca=20 the Clean Ethos will be approximately half the size and half the = price, and he is taking orders now Luis=20 Im with Chris Muir, though I don't own an H-9 I sure as hell would = like one, Why, because I could access algorithms I like from the whole = factor series library with ought having to own them all, and though I = love my timefactor, it would be nice to have a real editor librarian to = work with, I think the mod factor has something that if not exactly = mimicking a uni-vibe, could get something so luscious and Hendrix-ian, = you would pause and think, what would Jimi do? and then you would = realize he'd play an H-9, if it had been available=85 of course=20 Miles Im not sure if you are yearning for a ring modulator or not but some of = your descriptions are hinting at that =20 budget but well rendered versions can be found on line 6 M5 through 13, = dedicated ones, I tried the new Moog,which was very lovely, in a = robot vomit /attack of the alarm clock-bots sort of way. Phil this just reinforces my belief that there is an overdrive born every = minute bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 00:12:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA7ED18357D; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale From: Chris Muir In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:11:09 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <404969F2-BFF3-44B0-8200-99AAD8DAC49A@well.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 00:12:06 +0000 (UTC) On May 27, 2014, at 4:59 PM, bill walker = wrote: > though I love my timefactor, it would be nice to have a real editor = librarian to work with The next version of the TimeFactor software is supposed to work with the = Mac/Win editor. The recent updates to the rest of the Factor series has = this, but they are waiting to get the Looper algorithm implemented for = the H9 before they update the TImeFactor. Chris Muir cbm@well.com=09 http://www.xfade.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 01:17:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70C4C183580; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-27_06:2014-05-27,2014-05-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=6 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405280015 Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale From: bill walker In-reply-to: <404969F2-BFF3-44B0-8200-99AAD8DAC49A@well.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:16:19 -0700 Message-id: References: <404969F2-BFF3-44B0-8200-99AAD8DAC49A@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 01:17:14 +0000 (UTC) thats good news On May 27, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Chris Muir wrote: > > On May 27, 2014, at 4:59 PM, bill walker wrote: > >> though I love my timefactor, it would be nice to have a real editor librarian to work with > > The next version of the TimeFactor software is supposed to work with the Mac/Win editor. The recent updates to the rest of the Factor series has this, but they are waiting to get the Looper algorithm implemented for the H9 before they update the TImeFactor. > > > Chris Muir > cbm@well.com > http://www.xfade.com > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 06:32:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10E7E18357D; Wed, 28 May 2014 06:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1401258706; bh=LO/xUmA+jVtBVROqW3dzQZlItHhXLuwdfbZLWqn72dI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=ke0a6s036f/V7rifcnUfgcdL350rPT8WR5Hz0hntz9wikkuOg3fMv1pxA6ifz57VhLewMfIgLEBpeYfiZ/VxykIvXDXxdjwrL/02RA7zB6jrGo71iei3+GS4QElOoRaMfxmUnROsuz27SCQyXZmGEeI4g5EuTEr78WP38e7idWs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 884549.71042.bm@smtp145.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: iiylK3AVM1mWOGW1IzVgk1Xklg0ad5pvJWHB7MngmINNHzh 5gGoLrc19uNmPfbX..3milx1RfmTbykJoBi67Nn0xQo0CPazF2ffH0M6hCEA EeLDYSU2zEgzm8YJZKHTdnj.IzMZ1ThK4PoRhkBtq41zCXFoOSXdiaVbcQcn qBV1x_0_ogC2BGxHEHG8MMM0rRquai.E0Zw_lj5qd1tVtNQ_DS8AoSrr8xpO B04OBrOCY7qT4uHjUupkM1D3IzO6xiVKVlyG2yYJfCElRjRRDPTj9kgKmuNv etkm.6_wZF6wIU8cVglMQrARUPcotAIlE5chsA2CCrWW.GRJh20emV93_wG. 0.L3NyYfCEwr6_vzflHHbP8ROmD6XjYebLPaQuhCD9M_HzZhCs__F7zg5sTh T0r5w.ryTfm1CURZyT2KM9Sj2OgqWzE_zPAGW0tOmy8btwINhJanEdsN8VY8 PzhmWICwtRABh85lc_FP13mMOSx59dqCEF4XftcONDwWyH65_oe_SYYcj2UP wbXFpZ4Y.deBo.C_FdCjynupMQ2rUZsfIi7y3awVed.S0_RcGVrZP.O.fYF7 ngdzbCZv.y5nhD.ETyte6N81.n.gL7Ozz8HosulCtbM4OmQ8CLBDKBiyFVqm 4GqvQVD93h3MhzIieIJ5sVpsP5nByhlFWm6cBPcqIrcmIqP1UXneHA6ntSgV FJgxHWBL0ZsPLZcT_TgdCVRL3KgVMVLrwIR.bbSu8qfOp.Fw9XZndpGyN.NW JlX1Lg9ESalm0xVLRQZMjHKavioza79ZQZOSSwdKpV5DWR7dd1O3dVrvtRlE M7aSp.x0YpNbyz.K54dJBi7d.z06O5QMbU1GgEAC3_NTEHOKu0ciNOr6hSoM mnnGmkPDdI7wzpK9qsNmrhtxviH9UqNWPtigkFk4s0IqHdEIu5vcHnE3kNY3 eLLO1F4f.0a.eaRTGwTq.WaczCrsJImC0p1u8_9ep3EAHX_n7kINnTapPt1k zN7C5QzX.mTbx.SriN3pmOWLHgsYd3qCGz3vf2bez3uzlK0eb3DfifrZu3Kt tSAuiXzQx_xMAgSKrR6lAuCn2xc23_XKlTjMzMDS0VNj5019MOsUF3a1RIIF jJ.7Pt5HAbFepXeB2.NCIdQ0- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 7n7qsyGswBCgTbRPvUUz9QEYRfjrM9w1ZUA- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.144.171.187] (antony.hequet@89.204.139.187 with xymcookie [46.228.39.225]) by smtp145.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2014 06:31:46 +0000 UTC Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale References: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> From: Antony Hequet Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7965E088-7D64-4330-973A-F928485DE4FE X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> Message-Id: <5C54A33B-65E4-48DA-B4BF-99E8F4571DCB@yahoo.fr> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 08:31:39 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 06:32:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7965E088-7D64-4330-973A-F928485DE4FE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, is the Ethos still up for sale? Antony Hequet Poet composer > On 27 mai 2014, at 03:24, David P Coffin wrote: >=20 > Greetings, loopers. >=20 > Before I take this to ebay, I thought I'd give you all a crack at my VERY l= ittle used 2013 Ethos stomp box.=20 >=20 > http://www.customtonesinc.com/EthosPreamp.html >=20 > It's got the TLE/Classic Switch, but none of the new-for-2014 options. I'd= hoped it might rekindle my languishing guitar playing but other factors int= erfered, so after a brief happy testing period when it arrived last July (ma= ybe 6 hours max...?) it's just been sitting idle in its box ever since...mak= ing me feel bad for it. >=20 > It'll probably post at ebay with a buy it now of $425 plus shipping (fits i= n a medium Flat Rate Priority box IIRC; I've got all the original packaging a= nd papers), but I'd rather it go to looper for some reason, so I welcome off= ers and will hold off for a week or two. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > David > 1096 Winchuck River Road > Brookings, OR 97415-9384 > 541-813-1581 >=20 > Recent ebay history on the thing: >=20 > http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_itemId=3D150228031111&_nkw=3DETHOS+Overd= rive+TLE&LH_Complete=3D1&LH_Sold=3D1&rt=3Dnc >=20 >=20 > http://eyesandskies.blogspot.com/ > http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/ > http://myvirtualworkshop.blogspot.com > http://goo.gl/9Q39fu >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-7965E088-7D64-4330-973A-F928485DE4FE Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David, is the Ethos still up for sale?=

Antony Hequet
Poet composer

On 27 mai 2014, a= t 03:24, David P Coffin <dpcoff= in@earthlink.net> wrote:

= G= reetings, loopers.

Before I take this to ebay, I thought I= 'd give you all a crack at my VERY little used 2013 Ethos stomp box. 


It's got the TLE/Classic Switch, but none of the new-for-2014 options. I'd hoped it= might rekindle my languishing guitar playing but other factors&nb= sp;interfered, so after a brief happy testing period when it arrived last Ju= ly (maybe 6 hours max...?) it's just been sitting idle in its box ever since= ...making me feel bad for it.

It'll probably post at ebay with= a buy it now of $425 plus shipping (fits in a medium Flat Rate Priority box= IIRC; I've got all the original packaging and papers), but I= 'd rather it go to looper for some reason, so I welcome offers and will hold= off for a week or two.

Thanks!

=
David
= --Apple-Mail-7965E088-7D64-4330-973A-F928485DE4FE-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 06:38:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4868F183583; Wed, 28 May 2014 06:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <4F982A5A-8488-4CE8-A741-992A7FC595D6@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4F982A5A-8488-4CE8-A741-992A7FC595D6@earthlink.net> Subject: AW: home made Frippertronics again Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 08:37:01 +0200 Message-ID: <004101cf7a3f$3cffa930$b6fefb90$@mpeters.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01CF7A50.0089FFD0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQMy2kIl4VEEEhb76HNXNMGhwfJUx5iOyZWA Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 06:38:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CF7A50.0089FFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > How is it set up so that the supply reel never diminishes and the take-up reel never grows? it does :) it just takes 2 hours for a big reel to run down, so you don't see much difference on the video which is just 13 minutes or so -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CF7A50.0089FFD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable home made = Frippertronics again

> = How is it set up so that the supply reel = never diminishes and the take-up reel never grows?

 

it = does :)  it just takes 2 = hours for a big reel to run down, so you don't see much difference on = the video which is just 13 minutes or so

 

-Michael<= /p>

 

 

 

= ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CF7A50.0089FFD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 08:31:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71121183545; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1542 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:31:01 UTC Message-ID: <5385988D.9060608@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 01:04:29 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com, Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V14 #109 References: <20140527235417.514C6183582@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20140527235417.514C6183582@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 08:31:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a gentle reminder to please not just hit Reply when you reply to threads on this mailing list. It includes every single response to a long thread and necessitates automatic mailings of multiple 'daily' threas. I got 8 daily digests today and a couple of them only had one reply to a thread that had included all previous threads. Thanks for your consideration, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 08:36:20 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0BF8183581; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1401266127; bh=MBtkhUwsJhDxnKtorxD9MBq9peqsk/lC3qeBLpxFZv4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=lVzbya1hvdE5gH1q7T2/fIACrIrMq+8dCFEuNSKrZuwe9fMoBt4MRDZz7JCp3TyoDy+nIpRagP/fAvAgNWL2oPDOV2wk7PuThJJBRyDfyP3pkf9im3b5VuSH8lq+ClYvgoRPtiiFHKMASziOJytqIoPMp8GJuUb0Y7LIvgtAlLw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 827187.15225.bm@smtp127.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: o7wZblQVM1kD1iIB6c9NUut_5j_iT_Kdqp9h9YOnl4EU56T kWbDzUCdikqWSZR_G1CGWPlCt8E37hs4xwyWuKvostFe5PY69Amondujs36g t7pyr2DHTBNpzn931h1x51HB680RuG6AcaOJotC3kPtAqo9Tm_0ktElaiTXM QyzF7C8_xFhxI9HyvntIEl1Cu45A2CZzOYVkDbvETTHPZgZmccjlFQFh2u.5 zFhlMOXdBbaRfkWkW3DqrZtI_j6f_j.YAovNev1MHcxNq1PJBkOw.1MvikyC eQzzKfsLpdLV9ChPcs973_0VM1uqBaLG_8SwTGqUc0zEXd.gtPQODoyMinB4 2rPmq3M6yuo7KpGeRYaFM8mMSeYDl1gYubKfok72PLtQRHGnXmxw4SDS7iiM wSF3Ls.m9RSsWfr1DS4JKCCjWU5CapI27mYLGtIOR7IVyTxLvCSSJE3PctVV iDf4vzStbc9UQwF5jpB2j2BWFYYd1KbdO52JxD2bQfDelmnGYUS0uNDJj0.J whLAm3Lgaqzm2oE5XWRR2ZkaI5_moFCCIKQehQWk4ARFDiixrJGKomsr9u_o Qe3E- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 7n7qsyGswBCgTbRPvUUz9QEYRfjrM9w1ZUA- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.144.171.187] (antony.hequet@89.204.139.187 with xymcookie [46.228.39.225]) by smtp127.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2014 08:35:27 +0000 UTC Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V14 #109 References: <20140527235417.514C6183582@arsenic.violacea.com> <5385988D.9060608@cruzio.com> From: Antony Hequet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <5385988D.9060608@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <75ED4997-6E39-402D-8919-9E71AB2120B0@yahoo.fr> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 10:35:12 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 08:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Ok so what do you have to to not just hit reply. It's not clear to me... Antony Hequet Poet composer > On 28 mai 2014, at 10:04, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 > This is a gentle reminder to please not just hit Reply when you reply to t= hreads on this mailing list. > It includes every single response to a long thread and necessitates automa= tic mailings of multiple > 'daily' threas. >=20 > I got 8 daily digests today and a couple of them only had one reply to a t= hread that had > included all previous threads. >=20 > Thanks for your consideration, >=20 > Rick >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 08:50:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79127183580; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=LTImWLXmwbt6NykY1NLA9iu3zTpqcR59EGl11FoI5OsyHX2rC+CdDz4tiexQcvwu; h=Received:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:To:In-Reply-To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: David P Coffin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_26521BA2-A4AC-42BE-9C97-9A153A64D450" Message-Id: <46FDFCE4-98A6-45D7-ADBF-62982EA1277C@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 01:49:08 -0700 References: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> <5C54A33B-65E4-48DA-B4BF-99E8F4571DCB@yahoo.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5C54A33B-65E4-48DA-B4BF-99E8F4571DCB@yahoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec795f32bbbb398a78bf85ff22d6104987f7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.52.147 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 08:50:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_26521BA2-A4AC-42BE-9C97-9A153A64D450 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 'tis... On May 27, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Antony Hequet wrote: > David, is the Ethos still up for sale? http://eyesandskies.blogspot.com/ http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/ http://myvirtualworkshop.blogspot.com http://goo.gl/9Q39fu --Apple-Mail=_26521BA2-A4AC-42BE-9C97-9A153A64D450 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii antony.hequet@yahoo.fr> = wrote:
http://eyesandskies.blogspot.co= m/
http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/
http://myvirtualworkshop.= blogspot.com

= --Apple-Mail=_26521BA2-A4AC-42BE-9C97-9A153A64D450-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 09:45:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A1EE183582; Wed, 28 May 2014 09:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mYHGBRH53VPy1jaLPQgSUfpW5BjghS41VA4LDUL7ENE=; b=Ox65G/uCB7A9CthiOZoGmvAGxCmujYNWQrScZhHVR1ag2H1Ua6inB+LrpxdJMjDT6W mfZ5FMvJZ8hP3ckBzOgH7Pn8itMtZhFaJr12MiMCgQQKtemZNDgbbYkq1K9fS5rEuv5b rJy939Cj2V3K65Stm3Ls//LCBbgTuN6CI+PnOb5V7DxmS1TwnUEom9S9A5hT/+OPHBi5 FfXzFQF5wEkhpMIJS5Tqe0fqZRaGpVySQfFVioecKALnOSOIaxbsXW5y537d63H7eT3P Gf8laJMmc11qiltb1c2uJFZvEorraulyZRMvQtMzEs5AvlOq3JRlk2PO2SBE0+xXirxE rCRg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.85.202 with SMTP id j10mr1270750lbz.95.1401270270455; Wed, 28 May 2014 02:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 05:44:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Removed From: =?UTF-8?Q?Christian_Carri=C3=A8re?= To: loop list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11347c82b4750204fa72a8fa Resent-Message-ID: <7JZ2x.A.UsE.yAbhTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 09:45:22 +0000 (UTC) --001a11347c82b4750204fa72a8fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I'd like to be removed from the mailing list. Thanks, C --001a11347c82b4750204fa72a8fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Hi,
I'd like to be removed from the mailing list.
Thanks,
C


--001a11347c82b4750204fa72a8fa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 09:59:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A4BF18357F; Wed, 28 May 2014 09:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5385B339.4030200@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 02:58:17 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V14 #112 References: <20140528094522.84202183587@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20140528094522.84202183587@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 09:59:06 +0000 (UTC) A simple thing to do is hit reply and then , physically, erase all the text except your actual reply, Anthony. That's what I do. It just takes one swipe of your mouse and the delete key. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 13:16:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E82A183580; Wed, 28 May 2014 13:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lHKhv5TqzUET/pACeLMHFHVl0cAAoi3Wtb8ki/54tTg=; b=R+ZZTC7YtyGJrz1B/8wNxYEFx7XDUHfXGD/tbt8aeT0mIliQpkDmv3b29H0V8QTL2g ZzkLICdocqs9RLe6/Ik9hFijBHnFxerKwDRwE1tmZkbdv3CDRLx0ScoP1KovdEP9a8wR f8omN7c2fxMAPlfDNNn4XuE0EOqCjP8RL5iHR04ijG/OnJIoxGm5Z/SjnUKoJ4zm0UYX Sn3QPTjl9sTnEc91uF7fDJE0Q5kbiV+RthFMiltCCUqifdwLg2ura1KZuVuQfW+l7ttR wdu17l0aKV3V4Maawa9serM9mTwz+oCEMLmtm4aR6BnNCvqHiVJbq2P06acrlxnNSPMb spqA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.122.208 with SMTP id lu16mr43734325pab.129.1401282939904; Wed, 28 May 2014 06:15:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <89CAB655-650D-4FB3-9A1F-826B6D66FD65@gmail.com> References: <5AB772E4-B34C-4B24-9204-607D4FCABF14@well.com> <631CB55B-5319-49F2-9D92-3BB24EDB194A@yahoo.com> <89CAB655-650D-4FB3-9A1F-826B6D66FD65@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 09:15:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0e6d4dce88004fa759b7b Resent-Message-ID: <08ehgB.A.lkG.vGehTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 13:16:31 +0000 (UTC) --047d7bf0e6d4dce88004fa759b7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Miles Ward wrote: > Any thoughts on a good pedal combo for electric sousaphone? If you're looping, my suggestion would be to get pedals that allow you to get timbral diversity and greater frequency range. [on trombone] I get my timbral diversity by employing a couple mutes and some extended playing techniques, but you can also get a lot of mileage from delays and filters. Delays are quite versatile and can produce various classic effects (phasing-like, flanging) at lower delay times as well as providing you'd expect from a delay. Look for a pedal that has delay time modulation for greater possibility. I use a lot of playback rate adjustments to get trumpet-register sounds into my loops, but you can get very good results with a pitch shifter like a digitech whammy (have a listen to this guy on contrabass flute: http://youtu.be/BiqPn3d_dKM ) Additionally, you may find it worthwhile to investigate harmonizers. A brass instrument harmonized in fourths or fifths can sound quite good. Sylvain --047d7bf0e6d4dce88004fa759b7b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Miles Ward <miles932@gmail.com>= wrote:
Any thoughts on a good pedal combo for electric sousaphone= ?

If you're looping, my suggestion would be to get pe= dals that allow you to get timbral diversity and greater frequency range. = =C2=A0[on trombone] I get my timbral diversity by employing a couple mutes = and some extended playing techniques, but you can also get a lot of mileage= from delays and filters. =C2=A0

Delays are quite versatile and can produce various clas= sic effects (phasing-like, flanging) at lower delay times as well as provid= ing you'd expect from a delay. =C2=A0Look for a pedal that has delay ti= me modulation for greater possibility.=C2=A0

I use a lot of playback rate adjustments to get trumpet= -register sounds into my loops, but you can get very good results with a pi= tch shifter like a digitech whammy (have a listen to this guy on contrabass= flute:=C2=A0http://youtu.be/BiqPn3= d_dKM )

Additionally, you may find it worthwhile to investigate= harmonizers. =C2=A0A brass instrument harmonized in fourths or fifths can = sound quite good.

Sylvain
--047d7bf0e6d4dce88004fa759b7b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 15:51:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5208E18357E; Wed, 28 May 2014 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Charles Zwicky Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BFCF469A-3398-41F4-9EE0-DEE020B9D7A1" Message-Id: <3D14E753-D066-4004-AFFA-C182F4AC1368@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: home made Frippertronics again Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 11:50:13 -0400 References: <4F982A5A-8488-4CE8-A741-992A7FC595D6@earthlink.net> <004101cf7a3f$3cffa930$b6fefb90$@mpeters.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <004101cf7a3f$3cffa930$b6fefb90$@mpeters.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120ebc548ce8450cec4d5255cb11b7ed843ccf484e788e3c61f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.121.70 Resent-Message-ID: <7Ra-oB.A.eZ.XYghTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_BFCF469A-3398-41F4-9EE0-DEE020B9D7A1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Ah.. I has assumed at least 15IPS..! You=92re running at 3.75IPS? http://www.zmix.net http://www.allmusic.com/artist/chuck-zwicky-mn0000126243 Charles Zwicky 212 414 9541 (voice only) On May 28, 2014, at 2:37, Michael Peters wrote: > How is it set up so that the supply reel never diminishes and the = take-up reel never grows? =20 it does :) it just takes 2 hours for a big reel to run down, so you = don't see much difference on the video which is just 13 minutes or so =20 -Michael --Apple-Mail=_BFCF469A-3398-41F4-9EE0-DEE020B9D7A1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Ah.. I has assumed at least = 15IPS..!  You=92re running at 3.75IPS?


Charles Zwicky
212 414 9541 (voice only)

On May 28, 2014, at 2:37, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> How is it set up so that the supply reel never diminishes = and the take-up reel never grows?
 
it does :)  it just takes 2 = hours for a big reel to run down, so you don't see much difference on = the video which is just 13 minutes or so
 
-Michael

= --Apple-Mail=_BFCF469A-3398-41F4-9EE0-DEE020B9D7A1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 17:19:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF4DE183547; Wed, 28 May 2014 17:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1401297533; bh=WL2s9cRkScPnyEXFjjhE0ylwCnCQ+0nxSQG5a94wWgI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=Xzpswyf7qWf7TU1QgWr+tipvcMbgrTL7Bz7OhGZKPRgRtqLqX16Frhi6OhGwNKKFJoO23iiFuIbvT5OXu/1EWELMtkbkBREiBwp3qpvwi9W3vCgumU/wF2i5P6WZbPfIGH0LQuYgFGdPxcPSPBJXzyetrmTpXaFrrjLIlUipSsk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 302902.99505.bm@smtp127.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: TB5k1PkVM1lEIt96Ltxz5dKMUNrfbim81G3RU0C.EvIerl. iDwpsTfPp5ApK4HB20549JbLIBMSGi5huxrdI0MVufBAUNkvbfHkOUEFrr5J dbnNAiCJ5GhWo5Be0hvN1MNZtJk08YMlqDa2aWBy11_rLvv3vBPX6MF5JwP7 jGxj67unWUSMtabwgZMwX7_lm5qs68V_4Ep8aUYSsDURxOTcGBgvGGzwLwuL sOQ7bRdAQfPnKbbaTjDZUNP4wNDHEuonlUlIZLSJjZnk2v0qz06PoqKlTC8i vx9dGopeIxQbTaeQmWgIJcR6eC7Fez8Z9y0mk61FO0JX4vzuz4JHRDaep5wm 40J0eIc0LgXHchnxPfu7pxWHZPkA7Q8Kc.0JeBWG80eCnFtAGzeqKlPOLEZt H1SIDcNkua_NQA9k6xR0UDPtylFj7VgHwajMEhE0VZdswtxeLJfUxPnZIS1a J4rQAscEn..FRm1u87dOPOkwOhSgFDYX7mFCVgcxceZ4gMMFXYDBwm.Glb5H UvzXQXn3EUlr_3C.bx0MOa1nCeRg9Ea3FFx92_YwRf2tLII1L8QSG3MmaBNa Wl.r7AUCCzaMd5Q5txUHx1Bo98zvlzqKNdQ7VFV8DoY36iusBDJoiEf9vITn 7dggsXvTGKi2DV35uxUY3DxkTauXNZIeWa7TEMgrPb8yI7_86bZwxu5DqImy Vawx_pqJq7Dhm9nH.W371z7bA_Tp2zGkh5R0dijdrNnKEsGUrkgsqoA_inMC .Ok2qHvydzGLY6MjxAflRTk9udzhgG3O2wYjyu2rwR8mJskey87F0CsYcOH1 jGLqyb8vmD1Jg5Ph.WvNDaG97F.976Pv98wpISIfssIgi07nLxNR2_dCZss1 zdOHCYyDh8ZM_ql2outGIVk8W X-Yahoo-SMTP: 7n7qsyGswBCgTbRPvUUz9QEYRfjrM9w1ZUA- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.144.171.187] (antony.hequet@89.204.139.187 with xymcookie [46.228.39.225]) by smtp127.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2014 17:18:53 +0000 UTC Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale References: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> <5C54A33B-65E4-48DA-B4BF-99E8F4571DCB@yahoo.fr> <46FDFCE4-98A6-45D7-ADBF-62982EA1277C@earthlink.net> From: Antony Hequet Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C4AD84D4-107D-45D3-999B-D007396451A7 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <46FDFCE4-98A6-45D7-ADBF-62982EA1277C@earthlink.net> Message-Id: <4A5B2D47-8D20-4F88-A66D-FBE09C0115AF@yahoo.fr> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:18:38 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 17:19:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-C4AD84D4-107D-45D3-999B-D007396451A7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where are you located? Antony Hequet Poet composer > On 28 mai 2014, at 10:49, David P Coffin wrote: >=20 > 'tis... >=20 >=20 >> On May 27, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Antony Hequet wrot= e: >>=20 >> David, is the Ethos still up for sale? >=20 > http://eyesandskies.blogspot.com/ > http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/ > http://myvirtualworkshop.blogspot.com > http://goo.gl/9Q39fu >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-C4AD84D4-107D-45D3-999B-D007396451A7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where are you located?

Antony H= equet
Poet composer

On 28 mai 2014, at 10:49, David P= Coffin <dpcoffin@earthlink.net= > wrote:

'tis...

<= /div>

On May 27, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Antony Hequet <antony.hequet@yahoo.fr> wrote:<= /div>
David, is the Ethos still up for sale?
<= /div>

= --Apple-Mail-C4AD84D4-107D-45D3-999B-D007396451A7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 17:41:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37B0E183580; Wed, 28 May 2014 17:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 396 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Wed, 28 May 2014 17:41:49 UTC Message-ID: <53861E19.5050805@unguitar.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:34:17 +0200 From: Luca - Unguitar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Klein replica for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 17:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, 5 years ago my luthier built a Klein replica for me. It has been copied from an original Klein. I have decided to sell it and I can consider to sell body and electronics just ( if you have a Steinberger you may use its neck and bridge). I don't want to abuse of the list. Please, if interested in getting more informations, pm me. Thank you, Luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 18:04:50 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E26F183581; Wed, 28 May 2014 18:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 431 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Wed, 28 May 2014 18:04:50 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4A5B2D47-8D20-4F88-A66D-FBE09C0115AF@yahoo.fr> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 10:56:38 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0059EB3F-9E82-4EA6-AA89-2F9E467EEE56@grubmah.com> References: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> <5C54A33B-65E4-48DA-B4BF-99E8F4571DCB@yahoo.fr> <46FDFCE4-98A6-45D7-ADBF-62982EA1277C@earthlink.net> <4A5B2D47-8D20-4F88-A66D-FBE09C0115AF@yahoo.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Mucking with David=92s market here =97 sorry, David =97 I=92ve been = working myself up to putting my Ethos Overdrive (2013, Classic/TLE = switch) up for sale. I adore the clean tone. I know people who get = beautiful results with the drive tone, but that=92s only sporadically = been me. So, I=92m deciding I should go with something that fits me = better. But it is a beautiful pedal for those who can appreciate it. = $400. Seattle area. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 28 18:07:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A122183582; Wed, 28 May 2014 18:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mjmso9JSfbR2kk82dsHj+cZ3GqpFMRmfGqALovHdAGtc0PSlF8vDgs0xfZbOqR2s; h=Received:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:To:In-Reply-To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: David P Coffin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C7F6823C-07EC-42EF-9545-F1E50FCE26AC" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: Ethos Overdrive for sale Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 11:06:23 -0700 References: <9AE5EFA9-A205-4F12-BDEB-161017136956@earthlink.net> <5C54A33B-65E4-48DA-B4BF-99E8F4571DCB@yahoo.fr> <46FDFCE4-98A6-45D7-ADBF-62982EA1277C@earthlink.net> <4A5B2D47-8D20-4F88-A66D-FBE09C0115AF@yahoo.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A5B2D47-8D20-4F88-A66D-FBE09C0115AF@yahoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79b95614e6e4b3bcbd93daaa34c5a18787350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.52.147 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:07:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_C7F6823C-07EC-42EF-9545-F1E50FCE26AC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1096 Winchuck River Road Brookings, OR 97415-9384 541-813-1581 On May 28, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Antony Hequet = wrote: > Where are you located? >=20 > Antony Hequet > Poet composer >=20 > On 28 mai 2014, at 10:49, David P Coffin = wrote: >=20 >> 'tis... >>=20 >>=20 >> On May 27, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Antony Hequet = wrote: >>=20 >>> David, is the Ethos still up for sale? >>=20 >> http://eyesandskies.blogspot.com/ >> http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/ >> http://myvirtualworkshop.blogspot.com >> http://goo.gl/9Q39fu >>=20 >>=20 http://eyesandskies.blogspot.com/ http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/ http://myvirtualworkshop.blogspot.com http://goo.gl/9Q39fu --Apple-Mail=_C7F6823C-07EC-42EF-9545-F1E50FCE26AC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
1096 Winchuck River = Road
Brookings, OR = 97415-9384
antony.hequet@yahoo.fr> = wrote:

Where are you = located?

Antony Hequet
Poet composer

On = 28 mai 2014, at 10:49, David P Coffin <dpcoffin@earthlink.net> = wrote:

'tis...


http://eyesandskies.blogspot.co= m/
http://dpc-watermedia.blogspot.com/
http://myvirtualworkshop.= blogspot.com

= --Apple-Mail=_C7F6823C-07EC-42EF-9545-F1E50FCE26AC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 29 15:43:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30C43183548; Thu, 29 May 2014 15:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5387555B.9010501@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 11:42:19 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:43:19 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY http://galactictravels.info Please SHARE so that more people can listen to and support the artists. Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Adventures in Sound 198" on electro-music media. The Special Focus page is at http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. Become a WDIY member now! http://ow.ly/pJhCf From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 29 18:36:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 612F1183585; Thu, 29 May 2014 18:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 462 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at arsenic; Thu, 29 May 2014 18:36:40 UTC X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 12:29:28 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7Y7ozB.A.nlB.643hTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 18:36:42 +0000 (UTC) The problem we have is that we want to make the III all it can be but th= e hardware is fixed. We can, of=20 course, design a completely new looper, but in the short term we want to = improve it to satisfy customer's=20 desires. So we have to design behavior with the current layout in mind. I registered your vote for "Stack button goes straight to playback with = Stack active". On 18-May-14 3:33 AM, andy butler wrote: > > I'm quite surprised to see this discussed, a bit like re-inventing the = wheel. > > Any other sensible loop device with more than one button has the option= to end > a recording with a choice of switches which give the option to go smoot= hly > into overdub, or to go to PLayback. > > What on earth is wrong about "End Recording with Stack button...go stra= ight into stack"? > > > > andy > > Mark Hamburg wrote: >> On May 16, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Mike wrote: >> >>> 2 tap record & play with stacking active >>> >>> While the Rang=99 III can go directly from recording a loop to pl= aying with stacking active, it is >>> currently a 3 tap process involving one of the Bonus Buttons. It goes= like this: >>> Tap loop button =96 recording starts >>> Tap Bonus button to select Stack =96 Stack light blinks >>> Tap loop button =96 recording concludes, playback begins and Stacking= is active >>> > > --=20 Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 29 18:48:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0934183582; Thu, 29 May 2014 18:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <53876D83.3000901@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 12:25:23 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 18:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for taking time to think about this. Your suggestion is really interesting and constitutes a 5th alternative. On 17-May-14 1:02 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Press: Record > Release: (nothing or option 1 from above) > Press: Stack (no decay) > Release: Play -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 29 20:34:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9357A183580; Thu, 29 May 2014 20:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <538765B6.6070304@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 11:52:06 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <7269394.1400520492844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <7269394.1400520492844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 20:34:55 +0000 (UTC) You are correct regarding the use of the Free Play Style with an externa= l MIDI clock. The only constraints=20 are that the loop recording begins and ends on a MIDI quarter note. The u= ser can create up to 4 loops of=20 arbitrary length and start and stop them as he sees fit. This is a cool way to create a round structure or to explore poly rhythm= s. It's interesting to have loops=20 like 5 measures of 4/4 playing against 4 measures of 5/4. On 19-May-14 12:28 PM, Grant wrote: >> The one other big issue for me is that I want an option when working i= n any of the sync modes to >have loop lengths synced without having to sy= nc the point at which recording starts. For >example, if I record a base = cycle into loop 3 and then want to record a possibly longer layer >into o= ne of the other loops, then I want to be able to start recording immediat= ely without >having to wait for loop 3 to come back around. The loop logi= c just needs to know that I started >recording partway through the loop. = Start and/or stop might still be synced to loop 3=92s cycle >boundaries =97= I haven=92t worked through that as deeply =97 but if the natural point t= o begin the >layer doesn=92t come on the downbeat, I should be able to do= that. > > If you plan to stop and restart loops created like this I think there c= ould be problems since the system doesn't know your musical intentions. S= uppose you had a loop 3 and another loop with a length of multiple loop 3= 's. Then you start and end the recording of another loop at some arbitrar= y point relative to the first two loops. This would seem fine as long as = you never stopped any of the loops. But if you did stop some or all of th= em how would the system know where to start them again? > > There may be an answer to that but in the meantime here are a couple of= workarounds that might help: > > 1- Begin recording loop 3. > End loop 3 by pressing loop 1. > End recording of loop 1 and begin recording loop 2 by pressing loop= 2. > At the next restart of loop 3 loop 1 will begin playing back and lo= op 2 will be recording. > > 2- Use a MIDI clock and the "Free" style. I think this would allow you = to start/end recording or playback of up to 4 loops at the nearest 1/4 no= te regardless of the loop lengths. I need to try this to be sure but I th= ink it might work. Obviously the player would then be responsible for res= tarting stopped loops at the appropriate times. > > G --=20 Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 30 00:50:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B72B3183581; Fri, 30 May 2014 00:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <7269394.1400520492844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <538765B6.6070304@boomerangmusic.com> From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) In-Reply-To: <538765B6.6070304@boomerangmusic.com> Message-Id: <02B84436-EAC9-43F4-AD5A-A5931660C8AC@grubmah.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 17:48:58 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 00:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Side note: In my overly long and hence incomplete (and not published) analys= is of the design space around looper controls, I concluded that for two-butt= on loopers the sweet spot is distinctly around rec/stack/play/stack/play/...= on one button and rec/play/stop/play/stop/play/... on the other. But the Boomerang III is more of a one button looper with extra effects. To t= he extent that it focuses on phrases more than stacking on a single loop, re= c/play/stop/play/... makes the most sense. Mark= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 30 02:14:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CD16183582; Fri, 30 May 2014 02:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <02B84436-EAC9-43F4-AD5A-A5931660C8AC@grubmah.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 19:13:47 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <73B13045-2B51-4B53-AAF6-28F23DE2907D@grubmah.com> References: <7269394.1400520492844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <538765B6.6070304@boomerangmusic.com> <02B84436-EAC9-43F4-AD5A-A5931660C8AC@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 02:14:52 +0000 (UTC) On May 29, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Side note: In my overly long and hence incomplete (and not published) = analysis of the design space around looper controls, I concluded that = for two-button loopers the sweet spot is distinctly around = rec/stack/play/stack/play/... on one button and = rec/play/stop/play/stop/play/... on the other. >=20 > But the Boomerang III is more of a one button looper with extra = effects. To the extent that it focuses on phrases more than stacking on = a single loop, rec/play/stop/play/... makes the most sense. This doesn=92t mean I don=92t want a way to at least overlap the end of = the loop. I just note that with only taps available, a phrase-oriented = looper is probably best suited toward a rec/play/stop/play/stop/=85 = sequence which is what the Boomerang currently offers. So, points for = doing the logical thing but frustration when it comes to needing to get = some overlap. I look forward to this thread turning into a solution. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 30 14:28:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12CD3183580; Fri, 30 May 2014 14:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <53889553.7060609@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 10:27:31 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #895 for May 29, 2014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2TGpLC.A.a6G.PWJiTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 14:28:31 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/140529.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #895 May 29, 2014. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "dventures in Sound Episode 198" on electro- music media.http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#may PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) VA [Craig Padilla] Secret Language Strange Fish 1 (Fruits de Mer) PYXL8R Replicant's Remorse Live in Princeton (Ethereal Live) Robert Scott Strange Lines and Upon the Edge of Night Thompson Distances (Aucourant) Bill Walker Little Twisters Sanctuary (none) Tim Motzer Distant Passage Live from Star's End (1K Recordings) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== =============================== Modulator ESP Adventures with Adventures in Sound 198 (volca) beats! (electro-music media) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Robert Rich. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Calling Down the Sky" on Soundscape Productions. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2014/focus.html#jun WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2014-06-05 Bill ========================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com ======================================================================== Timezone information - [ Winter: EST/GMT-5 / Summer: EDT/GMT-4 ] Daylight Saving Time in the US (2014) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 9 and ends at 2:00 AM on Sunday, November 2. ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 30 15:49:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B84918357E; Fri, 30 May 2014 15:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Charles Zwicky Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BFB279E7-259F-4BFB-9CCB-E17BF7B74173" Message-Id: <2546B460-283F-4364-88AF-BAAEA9EBA9F7@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: Klein replica for sale Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 11:48:49 -0400 References: <53861E19.5050805@unguitar.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <53861E19.5050805@unguitar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b5711205769ca11edb287f4baec560ba432eb5f133ed92d71017c35350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.121.70 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 15:49:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_BFB279E7-259F-4BFB-9CCB-E17BF7B74173 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Got any photos? http://www.zmix.net http://www.allmusic.com/artist/chuck-zwicky-mn0000126243 Charles Zwicky 212 414 9541 (voice only) On May 28, 2014, at 13:34, Luca - Unguitar wrote: Hi all, 5 years ago my luthier built a Klein replica for me. It has been copied = from an original Klein. I have decided to sell it and I can consider to sell body and = electronics just ( if you have a Steinberger you may use its neck and = bridge). I don't want to abuse of the list. Please, if interested in getting more informations, pm me. Thank you, Luca --Apple-Mail=_BFB279E7-259F-4BFB-9CCB-E17BF7B74173 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Got any photos?


http://www.zmix.net

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/chuck-zwicky-mn0000126243

Charles Zwicky
212 414 9541 (voice only)

On May 28, 2014, at 13:34, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:

Hi all,
5 years ago my luthier built a Klein replica for me. It has been copied from an original Klein.
I have decided to sell it and I can consider to sell body and electronics just ( if you have a Steinberger you may use its neck and bridge).

I don't want to abuse of the list.
Please, if interested in getting more informations, pm me.

Thank you,
Luca


--Apple-Mail=_BFB279E7-259F-4BFB-9CCB-E17BF7B74173-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 03:35:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05035183583; Sat, 31 May 2014 03:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <53894DA7.6060807@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 23:33:59 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5KP-N.A.06G.k3UiTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 03:35:00 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Please SHARE so that more people can listen to and support the artists. Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, is on at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. In Phase 3, I'll play music by Lana Lane. The show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 08:38:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F4F4183583; Sat, 31 May 2014 08:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAEOUiVNV0r3K/2dsb2JhbAANS8Z6AYEegxkBAQEBAxgaAQVAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMGAgEBF7khpXEXjhBJFoQqBLBkgW4 X-IPAS-Result: ApMBAEOUiVNV0r3K/2dsb2JhbAANS8Z6AYEegxkBAQEBAxgaAQVAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMGAgEBF7khpXEXjhBJFoQqBLBkgW4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,945,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="468110039" Message-ID: <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 09:37:21 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 08:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mike, ;-) I don't think I have voting rights, I'm not a user. Just suggesting that if may help users who are upgrading to a 'rang if it works in the way that they expect. Having looked at the 'rang manual, I can see that hitting 'Stack' during record is already used for erasing the loop. ( in default setting anyway) So it isn't the trivial solution I imagined. Wonder if it would be interesting to have a resource where different button configs are documented and compared? andy On 29/05/2014 18:29, Mike wrote: > The problem we have is that we want to make the III all it can be but the hardware is fixed. We can, of course, design a completely new looper, but in the short term we want to improve it to satisfy customer's desires. So we have to design behavior with the current layout in mind. > I registered your vote for "Stack button goes straight to playback with Stack active". > > On 18-May-14 3:33 AM, andy butler wrote: >> >> I'm quite surprised to see this discussed, a bit like re-inventing the wheel. >> >> Any other sensible loop device with more than one button has the option to end >> a recording with a choice of switches which give the option to go smoothly >> into overdub, or to go to PLayback. >> >> What on earth is wrong about "End Recording with Stack button...go straight into stack"? >> >> >> >> andy >> >> Mark Hamburg wrote: >>> On May 16, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Mike wrote: >>> >>>> 2 tap record & play with stacking active >>>> >>>> While the Rang™ III can go directly from recording a loop to playing with stacking active, it is >>>> currently a 3 tap process involving one of the Bonus Buttons. It goes like this: >>>> Tap loop button – recording starts >>>> Tap Bonus button to select Stack – Stack light blinks >>>> Tap loop button – recording concludes, playback begins and Stacking is active >>>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 11:15:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08E1B183580; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5389B9BA.1070902@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 04:15:06 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , LIVE LOOPING PROMO Subject: An acknowledgement of ALL who have produced LIVE LOOPING FESTIVALS around the WORLD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <008QgD.A.uED.onbiTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:15:53 +0000 (UTC) The Parisian Live Looping Festival is One Years Old! BLESSINGS BE!!!!!!! Thanks to Emmanuel Reveneau's vision and hard work and all of the hard work of the wonderful team he has assembled TWICE in the last year. The International Live Looping Festiival is so much better, this year because of the dedication of Manu, Joel Gilardini, Fabio Anile and Massimo Liverani and Noah Peterson!!!!!!! We also have wonderful newbies coming soon in in France, Italy and Las Vegas................. Not to mention: The wonderful past work of Bernhard Wagner (Switzerland), Jana Honneger (Switzerland), Per Boysen (Sweden),Miro Mantere (Finland), Sjaak Overgauw (Belgium), Leander Reininghaus (Germany) , Andreas Willers (Germany), Michael Peters (Germany) , David Cooper Orton (England), Georgina Brett (England), Andy Butler (England), Gareth Whittock (Wales), Paul Marshall (Northern Ireland), Ricky Graham (Northern Ireland), Bill Walker (USA), Hans Lindauer (USA), Peter Koniuto (USA), Luis Angulo (Mexico/Germany), Luca Formentini (Italy), Bruno Kleinefeld (Italy), Sunao Inami (Japan), Ryusei Hattori (Japan), Hideki Nakanishi (Japan), Randold Arriola (Singapore) . Jeez, have I missed anyone, so far? Please forgive me if I have. Someone should really write this all down for the history books..................seriously! In every single grad thesis I've seen written about our movement, I've never seen an acknowledgement of ALL of the people who stuck their necks out and produced Live Looping Festivals out of the goodness of their hearts! Our entire movement is highly dedicated to all those who have and all those who served selflessly (and frequently, namelessly) to make these event possible! CHEERS TO US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 16:38:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A65F183582; Sat, 31 May 2014 16:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:36:50 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 16:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Everyone gets a vote! To be clear... the yellow Bonus button has Stack and Erase assigned to it from the factory. Holding that button during recording queues the Stack function so it will be active as soon as the new loop plays. Tapping that button will cause all non playing loops to blink, indicating they are candidates to be erased. Then tapping a blinking loop erases that loop. The user is free to swap these assignments so that Stack responds to a tap and Erase responds to a hold action. On 31-May-14 3:37 AM, andy butler wrote: > Hi Mike, > ;-) > I don't think I have voting rights, I'm not a user. > > Just suggesting that if may help users who are upgrading > to a 'rang if it works in the way that they expect. > > Having looked at the 'rang manual, I can see that > hitting 'Stack' during record is already used for > erasing the loop. ( in default setting anyway) > So it isn't the trivial solution I imagined. > > > Wonder if it would be interesting to have a resource > where different button configs are documented and compared? > > > andy -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 16:46:24 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAD62183587; Sat, 31 May 2014 16:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 09:45:22 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 16:46:24 +0000 (UTC) If you have a SideCar and you hit Stack while recording, does it go = directly into Stack? There wouldn=92t be any ambiguity about that (or so = I would assume). Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 16:50:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D99DD183587; Sat, 31 May 2014 16:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-31_02:2014-05-30,2014-05-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=6 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405310229 Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: bill walker In-reply-to: <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 09:49:50 -0700 Message-id: <5CD422DF-4995-45AB-A422-7B1F721A3D0D@icloud.com> References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 16:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mike, I just want to say that Im very grateful that you would take the time to survey the members of this list, many of who have been looping for well over 20 years, many of who have been designers or beta testers of looping products, and many who have wished that the major manufacturers would pay attention to what we have to say, rather than building lowest common denominator products with basic features. Kudos to Boomerang for striving to build a better mouse trap, like Andy, Im not a user , but everything you are working on makes me want to be one. Bill On May 31, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Mike wrote: > Everyone gets a vote! > > To be clear... the yellow Bonus button has Stack and Erase assigned to it from the factory. > Holding that button during recording queues the Stack function so it will be active as soon as the new loop plays. > Tapping that button will cause all non playing loops to blink, indicating they are candidates to be erased. Then tapping a blinking loop erases that loop. > The user is free to swap these assignments so that Stack responds to a tap and Erase responds to a hold action. > > On 31-May-14 3:37 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> ;-) >> I don't think I have voting rights, I'm not a user. >> >> Just suggesting that if may help users who are upgrading >> to a 'rang if it works in the way that they expect. >> >> Having looked at the 'rang manual, I can see that >> hitting 'Stack' during record is already used for >> erasing the loop. ( in default setting anyway) >> So it isn't the trivial solution I imagined. >> >> >> Wonder if it would be interesting to have a resource >> where different button configs are documented and compared? >> >> >> andy > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 16:57:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80A7B183581; Sat, 31 May 2014 16:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <538A099D.8040804@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:55:57 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 16:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Currently the Side Car(TM) Stack button behaves exactly like pressing St= ack on one of the III's Bonus=20 buttons. So it's still a 3 tap process: loop button, Stack button, loop b= utton... and your new loop is playing=20 with Stack active. On 31-May-14 11:45 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > If you have a SideCar and you hit Stack while recording, does it go dir= ectly into Stack? There wouldn=92t be any ambiguity about that (or so I w= ould assume). > > Mark --=20 Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 17:00:07 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D75D183584; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=s2zCYxy0ZieRSyl/o1DrUgD2+EHzHMreoYEXcOtABAY=; b=t3D1kxhaYrUE0NhH4qq13dq+OT2Kro9ygQAVbZd700suoc/Kyz4kP/Fj9icw93bcbY xdhlVgMhZJgwbHaG+S/0xIZBVQMa7WwQ5u4yWos9Kfgvsi+Q/tuEwjF1UiyeYWndHu/m VG/kTPLTigeaAn3PAoPay5121JpSmZMbv7EHnyaYrdmu+GyyYm9RLJHPxoiQWCx5K45l z8hh/E3SgyI+4LFIKqRhBO3OHOOFoazyut4MXcrQhT4QjOnvF1laLDJvc5dZPo1dxRCx CMT1/U6i865Id2DVELCk0RgGpbM8yvOyuwzirAlItvWgOaoxlfwOjyVa54KD9/U9YhUF dP0A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.179.9 with SMTP id dc9mr34271935wjc.74.1401555552755; Sat, 31 May 2014 09:59:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <538A099D.8040804@boomerangmusic.com> References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> <538A099D.8040804@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 12:59:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Bennett Williams To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d1e08dae69a04fab51496 Resent-Message-ID: <7OU8iD.A.QsG.XqgiTB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 17:00:07 +0000 (UTC) --089e013d1e08dae69a04fab51496 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to have a Boomerang desktop fader unit where I could manually control the volume of each track. Other features such as solo, pan, and mute would be great as well. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mike wrote: > Currently the Side Car(TM) Stack button behaves exactly like > pressing Stack on one of the III's Bonus buttons. So it's still a 3 tap > process: loop button, Stack button, loop button... and your new loop is > playing with Stack active. > > On 31-May-14 11:45 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >> If you have a SideCar and you hit Stack while recording, does it go >> directly into Stack? There wouldn=E2=80=99t be any ambiguity about that = (or so I >> would assume). >> >> Mark >> > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > > --=20 *Bennett Williams* *http://www.bennettwilliams.net http://bennettwilliams.bandcamp.com/ http://www.soundcloud.com/bennettwill= iams * --089e013d1e08dae69a04fab51496 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would like to have a Boomerang desktop fader unit where = I could manually control the volume of each track. Other features such as s= olo, pan, and mute would be great as well.


On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mike <= span dir=3D"ltr"><mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Currently the Side Car(TM) Stack button behaves= exactly like pressing Stack on one of the III's Bonus buttons. So it&#= 39;s still a 3 tap process: loop button, Stack button, loop button... and y= our new loop is playing with Stack active.

On 31-May-14 11:45 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
If you have a SideCar and you hit Stack while recording, does it go directl= y into Stack? There wouldn=E2=80=99t be any ambiguity about that (or so I w= ould assume).

Mark

--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

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"Some products make you sound better;
=C2=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

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1-8= 00-530-4699=C2=A0* 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax<= br>
http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =C2=A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-3= 82-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =C2=A076099-3788




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http://www.bennettwilliams.net
http://bennettwilliams.bandcamp.com/<= br> htt= p://www.soundcloud.com/bennettwilliams

--089e013d1e08dae69a04fab51496-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 21:41:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75C19183583; Sat, 31 May 2014 21:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|x-smartermail-authenticated-as|mnelson%40boomerangmusic.com X-MC-Relay: Good X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cx-smartermail-authenticated-as%7Cmnelson%2540boomerangmusic.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-SmarterMail-Authenticated-As: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Message-ID: <538A4C30.6040900@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 16:40:00 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> <5CD422DF-4995-45AB-A422-7B1F721A3D0D@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: <5CD422DF-4995-45AB-A422-7B1F721A3D0D@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for writing. So you might want to be Rangster? Boy, have I got a deal for you. Mike On 31-May-14 11:49 AM, bill walker wrote: > Hi Mike, I just want to say that Im very grateful that you would take the time to survey the members of this list, many of who have been looping for well over 20 years, many of who have been designers or beta testers of looping products, and many who have wished that the major manufacturers would pay attention to what we have to say, rather than building lowest common denominator products with basic features. Kudos to Boomerang for striving to build a better mouse trap, like Andy, Im not a user , but everything you are working on makes me want to be one. > > Bill > On May 31, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Mike wrote: > >> Everyone gets a vote! >> >> To be clear... the yellow Bonus button has Stack and Erase assigned to it from the factory. >> Holding that button during recording queues the Stack function so it will be active as soon as the new loop plays. >> Tapping that button will cause all non playing loops to blink, indicating they are candidates to be erased. Then tapping a blinking loop erases that loop. >> The user is free to swap these assignments so that Stack responds to a tap and Erase responds to a hold action. >> >> On 31-May-14 3:37 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> Hi Mike, >>> ;-) >>> I don't think I have voting rights, I'm not a user. >>> >>> Just suggesting that if may help users who are upgrading >>> to a 'rang if it works in the way that they expect. >>> >>> Having looked at the 'rang manual, I can see that >>> hitting 'Stack' during record is already used for >>> erasing the loop. ( in default setting anyway) >>> So it isn't the trivial solution I imagined. >>> >>> >>> Wonder if it would be interesting to have a resource >>> where different button configs are documented and compared? >>> >>> >>> andy >> >> -- >> >> Mike Nelson >> Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. >> General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >> >> ---------- >> >> "Some products make you sound better; >> Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." >> >> ---------- >> >> 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax >> >> http://www.boomerangmusic.com >> >> Contact for repairs: >> Lee Hardesty >> 1516 Victoria Drive >> Denton, TX 76209 >> hardesty@mindspring.com >> 940-382-3253 >> >> Billing Address: >> Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >> PO Box 3788 >> Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 >> > > -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 31 22:19:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CBF7183583; Sat, 31 May 2014 22:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=17CCa2r1Lhr3dwgS9Q/eM/8qWp0YVVF5I/IEzK5soAg=; b=tTzrWix8P+FTkZanPhafoAahqAIFtxKLD3VPqXb1khKbvaE8TlVgHCW48nWVHurtRx ShR/XABA3uORQIxkdv/UjpfMyv6x9Ojxsl7D/Go9trlDr6ONEkz7gzaxdO8Rr63gv0Lx hEjpt6gB6hFHHA9k/b1TUoq/Pwk4+ZJIn0G57Sa03YNGSMNfhj4nJ0ITaiTvwfVfXUJX FXtxREmBGD7afHEcGEoEyDgHvpLB1UITtfws5LEp2uVJY/rv7hoJokc/YFsY8OazhghD hBVgspm9yYjP5n29p6J0qv0vQ8X5nRnigN1fPGQYFPAcH8q/kqkR7S8ekoIMjOFXKbT5 20sw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.106.1 with SMTP id gq1mr9517548wib.45.1401574701530; Sat, 31 May 2014 15:18:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <538A4C30.6040900@boomerangmusic.com> References: <53765A4E.7020200@boomerangmusic.com> <938065A3-5A52-450E-B065-5D958E2D4AE4@grubmah.com> <5378704F.3080101@tiscali.co.uk> <53876E78.7000505@boomerangmusic.com> <538994C1.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> <538A0522.7040904@boomerangmusic.com> <5CD422DF-4995-45AB-A422-7B1F721A3D0D@icloud.com> <538A4C30.6040900@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 18:18:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang survey - please respond From: Bennett Williams To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0443069a36042004fab98acc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 22:19:17 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0443069a36042004fab98acc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am a rangster: Boomerang III w/ Sidecar. https://soundcloud.com/bennettwilliams/sets/equalopportunityhorn Yes sir!! On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Mike wrote: > Thanks for writing. So you might want to be Rangster? Boy, have I > got a deal for you. > > Mike > > On 31-May-14 11:49 AM, bill walker wrote: > >> Hi Mike, I just want to say that Im very grateful that you would take the >> time to survey the members of this list, many of who have been looping for >> well over 20 years, many of who have been designers or beta testers of >> looping products, and many who have wished that the major manufacturers >> would pay attention to what we have to say, rather than building lowest >> common denominator products with basic features. Kudos to Boomerang for >> striving to build a better mouse trap, like Andy, Im not a user , but >> everything you are working on makes me want to be one. >> >> Bill >> On May 31, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Mike wrote: >> >> Everyone gets a vote! >>> >>> To be clear... the yellow Bonus button has Stack and Erase >>> assigned to it from the factory. >>> Holding that button during recording queues the Stack function >>> so it will be active as soon as the new loop plays. >>> Tapping that button will cause all non playing loops to blink, >>> indicating they are candidates to be erased. Then tapping a blinking loop >>> erases that loop. >>> The user is free to swap these assignments so that Stack >>> responds to a tap and Erase responds to a hold action. >>> >>> On 31-May-14 3:37 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> ;-) >>>> I don't think I have voting rights, I'm not a user. >>>> >>>> Just suggesting that if may help users who are upgrading >>>> to a 'rang if it works in the way that they expect. >>>> >>>> Having looked at the 'rang manual, I can see that >>>> hitting 'Stack' during record is already used for >>>> erasing the loop. ( in default setting anyway) >>>> So it isn't the trivial solution I imagined. >>>> >>>> >>>> Wonder if it would be interesting to have a resource >>>> where different button configs are documented and compared? >>>> >>>> >>>> andy >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Mike Nelson >>> Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. >>> General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> "Some products make you sound better; >>> Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax >>> >>> http://www.boomerangmusic.com >>> >>> Contact for repairs: >>> Lee Hardesty >>> 1516 Victoria Drive >>> Denton, TX 76209 >>> hardesty@mindspring.com >>> 940-382-3253 >>> >>> Billing Address: >>> Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >>> PO Box 3788 >>> Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 >>> >>> >> >> > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > > -- *Bennett Williams* *http://www.bennettwilliams.net http://bennettwilliams.bandcamp.com/ http://www.soundcloud.com/bennettwilliams * --f46d0443069a36042004fab98acc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am a rangster: Boomerang III w/ Sidecar.

= https://soundcloud.com/bennettwilliams/sets/equalopportunityhorn
Yes sir!!


On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomer= angmusic.com> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks for writi= ng. So you might want to be Rangster? Boy, have I got a deal for you.

Mike

On 31-May-14 11:49 AM, bill walker wrote:
Hi Mike, I just want to say that Im very grateful that you would take the t= ime to survey the members of this list, many of who have been looping for w= ell over 20 years, many of who have been designers or beta testers of loopi= ng products, =C2=A0and many who have wished that the major manufacturers wo= uld pay attention to what we have to say, rather than building lowest commo= n denominator products =C2=A0with basic features. Kudos to Boomerang for st= riving to build a better mouse trap, like Andy, Im not a user , but everyth= ing you are working on makes me want to be one.

=C2=A0 Bill
On May 31, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Everyone gets a vote!

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 To be clear... the yellow Bonus button has Stac= k and Erase assigned to it from the factory.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Holding that button during recording queues the= Stack function so it will be active as soon as the new loop plays.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Tapping that button will cause all non playing = loops to blink, indicating they are candidates to be erased. Then tapping a= blinking loop erases that loop.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The user is free to swap these assignments so t= hat Stack responds to a tap and Erase responds to a hold action.

On 31-May-14 3:37 AM, andy butler wrote:
Hi Mike,
;-)
I don't think I have voting rights, I'm not a user.

Just suggesting that if may help users who are upgrading
to a 'rang if it works in the way that they expect.

Having looked at the 'rang manual, I can see that
hitting 'Stack' during record is already used for
erasing the loop. ( in default setting anyway)
So it isn't the trivial solution I imagined.


Wonder if it would be interesting to have a resource
where different button configs are documented and compared?


andy

--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-8= 00-530-4699=C2=A0* 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax<= br>
http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =C2=A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-3= 82-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =C2=A076099-3788




--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=C2=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-8= 00-530-4699=C2=A0* 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax<= br>
http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =C2=A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-3= 82-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =C2=A076099-3788




--
Benne= tt Williams

http://www.bennettwilliams.net
http://bennettwilliams.bandca= mp.com/
htt= p://www.soundcloud.com/bennettwilliams

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