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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/top20-04apr.html

WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for April, 2013.
Shows #835 to #838; 4-April-2013 to 25-April-2013
Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order.
Compiled by Bill Fox
The Special Focus for April was Ken Elkinson.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#apr


ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
========================================================================
AEJOTZ - AEJOTZ - none
Arcane - A Tale of Unease - Paul Lawler Music
Bryan Carrigan - Windows - Peonies Music
Fanger & Shonwalder - Analog Overdose in the Applebaum Nebula - Ricochet 
Dream
Intelligentsia - Music for Motherships - Earth Academy
Juta Takahashi - Sea Bound - Lunisolar
Ken Elkinson - Music for Commuting Volumes 1-2 - August Son
Ken Elkinson - Music for Commuting Volumes 3-4 - August Son
Ken Elkinson - Music for Commuting Volumes 5-6 - August Son
Ken Elkinson - Music for Telecommuting Volumes 1-2 - August Son
Kevin Braheny - Galaxies - Hearts of Space
Matt Borghi and Michael Teger - Convocation - Slobor
Mythos - Surround Sound Evolution - Sireena
Radio Massacre International - Lost In Transit 7 - Northern Echo
Remy & Synth.nl - Primitives - Groove
Robert Schroeder - Ferro OXID - Spheric
Steve Roach - Future Flows - Projekt
The Electric Golem - Smiling Like an Angry Turtle - Levelgreen
Various Artists - World Wide Kind 2 - Earth Academy
gentoo - sirens - Simulacra

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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*ahhhhhhh,   the devils advocate twins weigh in.


*On 4/29/2013 2:30 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
> A Looper's Island with just sand?
>
> Maybe the iOS device should be kept wrapped up in plastics then...
> Like Burning Man loopers;-)   I would vote for a dark tent too so I
> would be able to see the display in the desert island sun light.
>
> P;-)
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:19 AM, andy butler<akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>  wrote:
>> >but what*is*  a desert island?

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Hi folks,

I'll be doing video improvisations at 119 Gallery (my favorite 
performance space)  this Saturday as part of analog heaven northeast. 
AHNE  is primarily an event  For people to show off their analog 
synthesizers.  in the evening, those brave enough to perform in 
public have a jam session and I mix video live to  accompany  music.

An  excerpt from last years performance can be seen at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmkMkaUWGLI&list=UU92kh9KkVsvsaRBG-tjdPeQ&index=10

  the music starts around 730 or 8, admission is free. Donations to 
the gallery are always  appreciated.

119 Chelmsford St
Lowell, MA 01851-2621
8:00 PM
  http://www.119gallery.org/

  the next edition of " moving with the light"  will happen at 119 on 
May 18,  with video by me, music by Eric Crowley and others to be 
announced, and dancing by you!

My videos, including recordings of some of my performances, can be 
viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld

Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door 
to the gallery.
-- 
"I rang a silent bell ..."  -- Robert Hunter
"... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan

My photography can be viewed at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/




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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY
http://galactictravels.info

Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long 
Special Focus on Radio Massacre International.  The Featured CD at 
Midnight will be disk one from "Solid States" on Northern Echo 
Productions.  The Special Focus page is at 
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#may

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that 
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 
93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and 
Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM.  
Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

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Hi folks,

Anyone know of a midi looper?  I found one (Piz), but the OS X version is
apparently not developed at the same rate as the windows version.

I'm looking to loop some midi data (mostly notes, but maybe CCs as well).
 I've been wasting time trying to build one in Bidule, but I'm sure there
something available somewhere...

VST/AU, Bidule patch, PD or Max...  whatever works.

(I know Ableton does this, but no thanks)

thanks,

Sylvain

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<div><br></div><div style>VST/AU, Bidule patch, PD or Max... =A0whatever wo=
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

05.04.13 AMBiENT TRANSMiSSiONS . Night 1
A special presentation for Deep Wireless
in collaboration with NAISA featuring
D. Burke Mahoney + ANNA FRIZ
@ NAISA SPACE . 601 Christie St. #252, Artscape Wychwood Barns
     south west of the Bathurst / St. Clair Subway Station
     Sat. May 4th . 8pm - $10 http://www.naisa.ca

AMBiENT TRANSMiSSiONS is a special two night presentation
with New Adventures in Sound Art (NAISA) for their DEEP
WIRELESS Festival of Radio and Transmission Art. For the
first night on May 4th, AMBiENT TRANSMiSSiONS will be in
the intimate NAISA Space for a sit down surround sound
performance with Anna Friz and D. Burke Mahoney. The
second night will be in our usual space Supermarket on
May 14th with QMT, B. Burke Mahoney and the
Cameron/Davison Duo.

. ANNA FRIZ is a Canadian sound and radio artist currently
based in Chicago, where she is a post-doctoral fellow at the
School of the Art Institute of Chicago in the department of
Sound, funded by the Fonds de recherche Québec – société
et culture (FRQ). She received her Ph.D. in the Joint Graduate
Program in Communication and Culture from York University,
Toronto in 2011; her dissertation is entitled “The Radio of
the Future Redux: Rethinking Transmission Through Experiments
in Radio Art.” Since 1998 Anna has predominantly created
self-reflexive radio for broadcast, installation or performance,
where radio is the source, subject, and medium of the work.
She also creates dynamic, atmospheric sound works for
theatre, dance, film, and solo performance that are equally
able to reflect upon public media culture or to reveal interior
landscapes.  http://nicelittlestatic.com

D. Burke Mahoney . Scanning the shortwave dial for the faintest
of transmissions, D.Burke Mahoney creates compositions that
haunt and stimulate his listeners. Radio has become his instrument
of choice in creating richly textured and melodic soundscapes that
range from heavy and dense to sparse and subtle. Mahoney's
compositions encourage a wide variety of interpretation.
D. Burke Mahoney is a Toronto-based sound artist.
http://www.dburkemahoney.com

For more info on Deep Wireless:
http://www.naisa.ca/deepwireless/Performances.html#DWP2

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

COMiNG SOON:

. Friday May 10th 2013 . NEW HARBOURS MUSIC SERIES
presents dreamSTATE w/ HEIKI SILLASTE / OUREBOROS
@ Cathedral Place . 252 James Street North . Hamilton, Ontario
     East of the 403, north of Main / King on James . 8:00pm
     https://www.facebook.com/events/182240825261517

. Tuesday May 14th 2013 . PiNG.05.14.13
AMBiENT TRANSMiSSiONS . Night Two of a special
presentation for DEEP WIRELESS in collaboration
with NAISA featuring D. BURKE MAHONEY + QMT +
CAMERON/DAVISON DUO + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS
@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market
     just south of College . Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of
audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG
presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic,
soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo,
darkwave and experimental artists from around the world.
http://www.theambientping.com

The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates
and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events.
Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com

We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG.
http://www.facebook.com

ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things:
http://www.pingthings.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or
appropriate newsgroups. Thanks.

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We had implemented one midi looper into noundo in the past and finally remo=
ved it, but I'm sure yhzt the patch can work as a standalone. I can ask jea=
n-fran=C3=A7ois domingues about it if you want.
Emmanuel
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Objet: midi looper?

Hi folks,

Anyone know of a midi looper? I found one (Piz), but the OS X version is
apparently not developed at the same rate as the windows version.

I'm looking to loop some midi data (mostly notes, but maybe CCs as well).
 I've been wasting time trying to build one in Bidule, but I'm sure there
something available somewhere...

VST/AU, Bidule patch, PD or Max... whatever works.

(I know Ableton does this, but no thanks)

thanks,

Sylvain

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> Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>
> =C3=80: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Envoy=C3=A9: Fri, 03 May 2013 03:44:39 +0200 (CEST)
> Objet: midi looper?
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Anyone know of a midi looper? I found one (Piz), but the OS X version is
> apparently not developed at the same rate as the windows version.
>
> I'm looking to loop some midi data (mostly notes, but maybe CCs as well).
>  I've been wasting time trying to build one in Bidule, but I'm sure there
> something available somewhere...
>
> VST/AU, Bidule patch, PD or Max... whatever works.
>
> (I know Ableton does this, but no thanks)
>
> thanks,
>
> Sylvain


It may be hard to "loop MIDI", because it is not sound but
instructions on actions. I guess you would be more successful if
looking for cyclic recording of MIDI instead of looping. That can be
implemented in a lot of software and hardware like sequencers and
arpeggiators. But of course many looper functions can not be performed
by working with MIDI, like reverse playback, overdubbing with feedback
and such.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen

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I have only ever had limited success with this=2C even though the thought p=
rocess seems like a good one=2C for some reason=2C getting the "loop" to so=
und similar ot the original always falls short of my expectations. I have u=
sed a few Ipad apps such as Beatmaker and Nano Studio for this  along with =
trying hardware using the MPC 500 my last attempt will be the day I get an =
Octatrack which seems to offer some of the flexibility that I need because =
of its outstanding engine for running multiple lengths of sequence on diffe=
rent tracks and the P-locks for quickly mangling the CC data. good luck on =
the search.
 Date: Thu=2C 2 May 2013 21:44:39 -0400
Subject: midi looper?
From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hi folks=2C
Anyone know of a midi looper?  I found one (Piz)=2C but the OS X version is=
 apparently not developed at the same rate as the windows version. =20
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I'm looking to loop some midi data (mostly notes=2C but maybe CCs as well).=
  I've been wasting time trying to build one in Bidule=2C but I'm sure ther=
e something available somewhere...=0A=

VST/AU=2C Bidule patch=2C PD or Max...  whatever works.
(I know Ableton does this=2C but no thanks)
thanks=2C
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Sylvain 		 	   		  =

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zyklus improvisor, perhaps?
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=280406

for linux, there's seq24 (http://www.filter24.org/seq24/about.html) and 
harmonyseq (http://harmonyseq.wordpress.com/about/)

Ben

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Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi folks,
> 
> Anyone know of a midi looper?  I found one (Piz), but the OS X version is
> apparently not developed at the same rate as the windows version.
> 
> I'm looking to loop some midi data (mostly notes, but maybe CCs as well).
>  I've been wasting time trying to build one in Bidule, but I'm sure there
> something available somewhere...
> 
> VST/AU, Bidule patch, PD or Max...  whatever works.
> 
> (I know Ableton does this, but no thanks)
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Sylvain

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Success!

I was able to modify the max patch below to create a very basic midi note
looper (i.e. what I needed).

http://xfade.com/max/examples/

For delay style midi looping (with feedback), the Piz MidiDelay is worth
checking out.  It's very nice, but the 2 sec max delay time is killing
me...  also I wanted the loop length to be set to what I played (from rec
to rec) and not have to set it before looping.  Nonetheless, I'll
definitely use this plugin elsewhere.

http://www.thepiz.org/plugins/?p=pizmidi

Sylvain

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra" style>Success!</div><div class=
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e. what I needed).</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" style=
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For delay style midi looping (with feedback), the Piz MidiDelay is worth ch=
ecking out. =A0It&#39;s very nice, but the 2 sec max delay time is killing =
me... =A0also I wanted the loop length to be set to what I played (from rec=
 to rec) and not have to set it before looping. =A0Nonetheless, I&#39;ll de=
finitely use this plugin elsewhere.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" style=
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What an incredible bit of software...

>zyklus improvisor, perhaps?
>http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=280406
>
>for linux, there's seq24 (http://www.filter24.org/seq24/about.html) and
>harmonyseq (http://harmonyseq.wordpress.com/about/)
>
>Ben
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
>(03/05/2013 03:44)
>
>>  Hi folks,
>>
>>  Anyone know of a midi looper?  I found one (Piz), but the OS X version is
>>  apparently not developed at the same rate as the windows version.
>>
>>  I'm looking to loop some midi data (mostly notes, but maybe CCs as well).
>>   I've been wasting time trying to build one in Bidule, but I'm sure there
>>  something available somewhere...
>>
>>  VST/AU, Bidule patch, PD or Max...  whatever works.
>>
>>  (I know Ableton does this, but no thanks)
>>
>>  thanks,
>>
>>  Sylvain


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>>zyklus improvisor

Yeah, overkill for my current midi looping needs, but some remarkable
patching...

Sylvain



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Hi all,

I was listening to a bit of Jeff Duke's "Closed Worlds" record this
morning, and was enjoying it quite a bit:

http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases

It's kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vein to Tim
Hecker.

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Hi all, <br><br>I was listening to a bit of Jeff Duke&#39;s &quot;Closed Worlds&quot; record this morning, and was enjoying it quite a bit: <br><br><a href="http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases">http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases</a><br>
<br>It&#39;s kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vein to Tim Hecker. <br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href="mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>
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Hey Matt, glad you liked it! Thanks for the shout out. I have another
release that just came out today, also free if anyone would like to check
it out. "Plural Realities"
http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/album/plural-realities

I will check out Tim Hecker, I had never heard of him, love new discoveries!


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> Hi all,
>
> I was listening to a bit of Jeff Duke's "Closed Worlds" record this
> morning, and was enjoying it quite a bit:
>
> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases
>
> It's kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vein to
> Tim Hecker.
>
> --
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> mattdavignon@gmail.com
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<br>I will check out Tim Hecker, I had never heard of him, love new discove=
ries!<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM=
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<br><a href=3D"http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases" target=3D"_blank">htt=
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On May 3, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Jeff Duke wrote:

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  I like this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1HkmCdJnM


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Tim Hecker created arguably the best ambient album about the feuding and
breakup of Van Halen. That makes him cool as hell.


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Matt, glad you liked it! Thanks for the shout out. I have another
> release that just came out today, also free if anyone would like to check
> it out. "Plural Realities"
> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/album/plural-realities
>
> I will check out Tim Hecker, I had never heard of him, love new
> discoveries!
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was listening to a bit of Jeff Duke's "Closed Worlds" record this
>> morning, and was enjoying it quite a bit:
>>
>> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases
>>
>> It's kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vein to
>> Tim Hecker.
>>
>> --
>> Matt Davignon
>> mattdavignon@gmail.com
>> New bandcamp page: http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
>> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>>
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Tim Hecker created arguably the best ambient album about t=
he feuding and breakup of Van Halen. That makes him cool as hell.=A0</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3,=
 2013 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jefflo=
ops@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeffloops@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey Matt, glad you liked it! Thanks for the =
shout out. I have another release that just came out today, also free if an=
yone would like to check it out. &quot;Plural Realities&quot; <a href=3D"ht=
tp://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/album/plural-realities" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/jeffduke.bandcamp.com/album/plural-realities</a><br>

<br>I will check out Tim Hecker, I had never heard of him, love new discove=
ries!<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Matt Davignon <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mattdavignon=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all, <br><br>I was listening to a bit of =
Jeff Duke&#39;s &quot;Closed Worlds&quot; record this morning, and was enjo=
ying it quite a bit: <br>

<br><a href=3D"http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases</a><br>
<br>It&#39;s kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vei=
n to Tim Hecker. <br clear=3D"all"><span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-- <br=
>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>


New bandcamp page: <a href=3D"http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_=
blank">http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com</a><br>Podcast! <a href=3D"http://r=
ibosomematt.podomatic.com" target=3D"_blank">http://ribosomematt.podomatic.=
com</a><br>



</font></span></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
<a href=3D"http://toaster.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">http://toaster.ba=
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Hey that's cool! I love the disintegrating sounds! Very surreal :) Thanks!

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:16 PM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On May 3, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Jeff Duke wrote:
>
> I will check out Tim Hecker,
>
>
>  I like this vid
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1HkmCdJnM
>
>
> BobC
>

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Hey that&#39;s cool! I love the disintegrating sounds! Very surreal :) Than=
ks!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:16 PM, RP Co=
llier <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:skeptikalist@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">skeptikalist@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><br><div=
><div>On May 3, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Jeff Duke wrote:</div><br><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite">
<span style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;te=
xt-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:norm=
al;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-spac=
e:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">I will check out Tim Hecke=
r,</span></blockquote>
</div><div><br></div>=A0I like this vid=A0<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dbe1HkmCdJnM" target=3D"_blank">http://www.yo=
utube.com/watch?v=3Dbe1HkmCdJnM</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div=
>BobC</div>
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I would imagine that might alops be the ONLY ambient album about the
feuding and breakup of Van Halen but I'd love to find out I'm wrong on that.

Kevin


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tim Hecker created arguably the best ambient album about the feuding and
> breakup of Van Halen. That makes him cool as hell.
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Matt, glad you liked it! Thanks for the shout out. I have another
>> release that just came out today, also free if anyone would like to check
>> it out. "Plural Realities"
>> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/album/plural-realities
>>
>> I will check out Tim Hecker, I had never heard of him, love new
>> discoveries!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I was listening to a bit of Jeff Duke's "Closed Worlds" record this
>>> morning, and was enjoying it quite a bit:
>>>
>>> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases
>>>
>>> It's kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vein to
>>> Tim Hecker.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Davignon
>>> mattdavignon@gmail.com
>>> New bandcamp page: http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
>>> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://toaster.bandcamp.com
>



-- 
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would imagine that might alops be the ONLY=A0<span style=
=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">ambient album about the fe=
uding and breakup of Van Halen but I&#39;d love to find out I&#39;m wrong o=
n that.</span><div>
<span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></di=
v><div style><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Ke=
vin</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Todd Elliott <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:toddbert@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">toddbert@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Tim Hecker created arguably the best ambient album about t=
he feuding and breakup of Van Halen. That makes him cool as hell.=A0</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeffloops@gmail.com</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey Matt, glad you liked it! Thanks for the =
shout out. I have another release that just came out today, also free if an=
yone would like to check it out. &quot;Plural Realities&quot; <a href=3D"ht=
tp://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/album/plural-realities" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/jeffduke.bandcamp.com/album/plural-realities</a><br>


<br>I will check out Tim Hecker, I had never heard of him, love new discove=
ries!<div><div><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3, 2013 a=
t 12:43 PM, Matt Davignon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavig=
non@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all, <br><br>I was listening to a bit of =
Jeff Duke&#39;s &quot;Closed Worlds&quot; record this morning, and was enjo=
ying it quite a bit: <br>


<br><a href=3D"http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases</a><br>
<br>It&#39;s kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vei=
n to Tim Hecker. <br clear=3D"all"><span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-- <br=
>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>



New bandcamp page: <a href=3D"http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_=
blank">http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com</a><br>Podcast! <a href=3D"http://r=
ibosomematt.podomatic.com" target=3D"_blank">http://ribosomematt.podomatic.=
com</a><br>




</font></span></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div><=
/div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><a href=3D"http:=
//toaster.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">http://toaster.bandcamp.com</a>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Till now you=
 seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>form. That i=
s the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<br><br>- Ram=
ana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br>
<br>
</div>

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Can anyone tell me how I can switch loops and move to a loopFrame with a
Mobius script?  The following scripts works as expected without the loop1
call, but switching loops seems to cancel the move.  I'm guessing it has
much to do with my switching presets, but I've tried all I can think of
here...

!name trigger1-3
track1
loop1
variable newFrame = loopFrames*2/3
move newFrame
end

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div style>Can anyone tell me how I can switch loops and m=
ove to a loopFrame with a Mobius script? =A0The following scripts works as =
expected without the loop1 call, but switching loops seems to cancel the mo=
ve. =A0I&#39;m guessing it has much to do with my switching presets, but I&=
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Many functions that you call from scripts don't happen right away, they may=
 be quantized, or they may be delayed slightly for latency compensation.  I=
f you need to ensure that something in a script happens after the last func=
tion eventually completes, add the "Wait last" statement.

!name trigger1-3
track1
loop1
Wait last
variable newFrame =3D loopFrames*2/3
move newFrame
end

This is usually only necessary if you are changing tracks and loops.

Jeff



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Can anyone tell me how I can switch loops and move to a loopFrame with a Mo=
bius script?  The following scripts works as expected without the loop1 cal=
l, but switching loops seems to cancel the move.  I'm guessing it has much =
to do with my switching presets, but I've tried all I can think of here...

!name trigger1-3
track1
loop1
variable newFrame =3D loopFrames*2/3
move newFrame
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<div>Many functions that you call from scripts don't happen right away, the=
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n. &nbsp;If you need to ensure that something in a script happens after the=
 last function eventually completes,
 add the &quot;Wait last&quot; statement.</div>
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<div>!name trigger1-3</div>
<div>track1</div>
<div>loop1</div>
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<div>variable newFrame =3D loopFrames*2/3</div>
<div>move newFrame</div>
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<div>This is usually only necessary if you are changing tracks and loops.</=
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pFrame with a Mobius script? &nbsp;The following scripts works as expected =
without the loop1 call, but switching loops seems to cancel the move. &nbsp=
;I'm guessing it has much to do with my switching
 presets, but I've tried all I can think of here...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>!name trigger1-3</div>
<div>track1</div>
<div>loop1</div>
<div>variable newFrame =3D loopFrames*2/3</div>
<div>move newFrame</div>
<div style=3D"">end</div>
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Thanks for the pointer Matt. I find I often go and listen to  
somebody's work when someone else mentions it. :)

Good stuff Jeff. Enjoying it now. :)

Quoting Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> I was listening to a bit of Jeff Duke's "Closed Worlds" record this
> morning, and was enjoying it quite a bit:
>
> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases
>
> It's kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vein to Tim
> Hecker.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> New bandcamp page: http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>


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Thanks much kind sir! :)

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:59 PM, <cpr@musetrap.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the pointer Matt. I find I often go and listen to somebody's
> work when someone else mentions it. :)
>
> Good stuff Jeff. Enjoying it now. :)
>
> Quoting Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>:
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> I was listening to a bit of Jeff Duke's "Closed Worlds" record this
>> morning, and was enjoying it quite a bit:
>>
>> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/**releases<http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases>
>>
>> It's kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vein to
>> Tim
>> Hecker.
>>
>> --
>> Matt Davignon
>> mattdavignon@gmail.com
>> New bandcamp page: http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.**com<http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com>
>> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.**com<http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com>
>>
>>
>
>

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Thanks much kind sir! :)<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3, 2=
013 at 5:59 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cpr@musetrap.com" =
target=3D"_blank">cpr@musetrap.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">
Thanks for the pointer Matt. I find I often go and listen to somebody&#39;s=
 work when someone else mentions it. :)<br>
<br>
Good stuff Jeff. Enjoying it now. :)<br>
<br>
Quoting Matt Davignon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi all,<br>
<br>
I was listening to a bit of Jeff Duke&#39;s &quot;Closed Worlds&quot; recor=
d this<br>
morning, and was enjoying it quite a bit:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/releases" target=3D"_blank">http://=
jeffduke.bandcamp.com/<u></u>releases</a><br>
<br>
It&#39;s kind of cinematic drone/ambient guitar music, in a similar vein to=
 Tim<br>
Hecker.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
--<br>
Matt Davignon<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gm=
ail.com</a><br>
New bandcamp page: <a href=3D"http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_=
blank">http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.<u></u>com</a><br>
Podcast! <a href=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.<u></u>com</a><br>
<br>
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<br>
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So far after getting some help searching for a laptop from a friend of
mine, we came down to these few. Which ones do you guys recommend? Which
one seems like a good buy? I was really looking at the sony but dont know
sony's reputation for music production.

http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D=
7616783&CatId=3D3989
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834314006
http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D=
7566808&Sku=3DD211-173406
 On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, "van Sinn" <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:

> Core i7 is a decent=E6ly better optimized processor than previous
> generation, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.
>
> I'd definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.
> Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower power
> consumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power supply wil=
l
> be less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stabilit=
y
> when used in hot conditions.
> The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of tasks, and
> fairly affordable.
>
> One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent outlets as
> possible, as this translates directly to lower noise and better stability=
.
> I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cpu
> and a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.
> Also, they're some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.
> /m
>
>
> kay'lon rushing wrote:
>
>> Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz seems
>> somewhat low. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no computer wiz. The Laptop=
 I
>> use now is 2ghz. It's not i7 though.
>>
>>
>>      >From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>>
>>      >Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop
>>      >To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loopers=
-delight.com>
>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@**loopers-delight.com<Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com>
>> >"
>>     <Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com>
>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@**loopers-delight.com<Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com>
>> >>
>>      >Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM
>>      >
>>      >Hi Kay'lon,
>>      >Most laptops are pretty good these days. I've been having good
>>     luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I'd probably buy
>>     this:http://www.newegg.com/**Product/Product.aspx?Item=3D**
>> N82E16834215678<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16=
834215678>
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live
>>     looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state drive)
>>     if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to or
>>     read from the disk.
>>      >
>>      >The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people anymore
>>     use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well with
>>     USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your
>>     particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked for
>>     other people. I'm currently using a pretty inexpensive Focusrite
>>     Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I'm getting low levels of latency
>>     that rival expensive RME sound cards.
>>      >
>>      >With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of RAM and
>>     a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably never
>>     come close to the limits of the machine.
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>      >
>>      >Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live
>>     looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to handle
>>     decently heavy vst's well. My budget is under $1000. Any suggestions=
?
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >--
>>      >Art Simon
>>      >simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>
>>      >
>>      >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/**K3Z/311236368904238<http://www.facebook.=
com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238>
>>
>> My Music: - http://www.youtube.com/user/**gumdrops27<http://www.youtube.=
com/user/gumdrops27>
>>                  - www.soundcloud.com/k3z <http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z=
*
>> *>
>> My Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**k3z/<http://www.flickr.co=
m/photos/k3z/>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> rgds,
> van Sinn
>
>

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<p>So far after getting some help searching for a laptop from a friend of m=
ine, we came down to these few. Which ones do you guys recommend? Which one=
 seems like a good buy? I was really looking at the sony but dont know sony=
&#39;s reputation for music production.</p>

<p><a href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-detail=
s.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=3D3989">http://m.tigerdirect.com/applicatio=
ns/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=3D3989</a> <br>
<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E1683431400=
6">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834314006</a><br=
>
<a href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.a=
sp?EdpNo=3D7566808&amp;Sku=3DD211-173406">http://m.tigerdirect.com/applicat=
ions/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D7566808&amp;Sku=3DD211-173406</a>=
 <br>

</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, &quot;van Sinn&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk">vansinn@post.cybercity.dk</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Core i7 is a decent=E6ly better optimized processor than previous generatio=
n, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.<br>
<br>
I&#39;d definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.<br>
Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower power co=
nsumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power supply will be=
 less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stability wh=
en used in hot conditions.<br>

The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of tasks, and f=
airly affordable.<br>
<br>
One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent outlets as po=
ssible, as this translates directly to lower noise and better stability.<br=
>
I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cpu an=
d a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.<br>
Also, they&#39;re some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.<br>
/m<br>
<br>
<br>
kay&#39;lon rushing wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz seems som=
ewhat low. Correct me if I&#39;m wrong as I&#39;m no computer wiz. The Lapt=
op I use now is 2ghz. It&#39;s not i7 though.<br>
<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;From: Art Simon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-<u></u>delight.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@<u></u>loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;&quot;<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-<u></u>delight.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@<u></u>loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Hi Kay&#39;lon,<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Most laptops are pretty good these days. I&#39;ve been havin=
g good<br>
=A0 =A0 luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I&#39;d probably buy<br>
=A0 =A0 this:<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN=
82E16834215678" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/<u></u>Product/Prod=
uct.aspx?Item=3D<u></u>N82E16834215678</a><br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live=
<br>
=A0 =A0 looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state drive)=
<br>
=A0 =A0 if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to or<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 read from the disk.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people an=
ymore<br>
=A0 =A0 use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well with<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your<br>
=A0 =A0 particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked for<br>
=A0 =A0 other people. I&#39;m currently using a pretty inexpensive Focusrit=
e<br>
=A0 =A0 Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I&#39;m getting low levels of laten=
cy<br>
=A0 =A0 that rival expensive RME sound cards.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of R=
AM and<br>
=A0 =A0 a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably never<br=
>
=A0 =A0 come close to the limits of the machine.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay&#39;lon rushing &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3=
zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live<br>
=A0 =A0 looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to handle<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 decently heavy vst&#39;s well. My budget is under $1000. Any sugges=
tions?<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;--<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Art Simon<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart=
@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/<u></u>K3Z/311236368904238</a><br>
<br>
My Music: - <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.youtube.com/user/<u></u>gumdrops27</a><br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- <a href=3D"http://www.soundcloud.com/k=
3z" target=3D"_blank">www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.=
soundcloud.com/k3z" target=3D"_blank">http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a><u><=
/u>&gt;<br>
My Photography: <a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/<u></u>k3z/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
rgds,<br>
van Sinn<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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I have to say that at this point in the game, using the last stable
operating system, be it MAC or Windows, in a machine with a lot of RAM
you're likely to be fine (unless you are really a power user who is going
to try to run video installations while you record 24 tracks in octophonic
sound).

It just seems to me that we are well past the days of most computers not
being fit for music production without tweaks and adjustments.

Of course a more informed opinion easily trumps mine.

Kevin


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

> So far after getting some help searching for a laptop from a friend of
> mine, we came down to these few. Which ones do you guys recommend? Which
> one seems like a good buy? I was really looking at the sony but dont know
> sony's reputation for music production.
>
>
> http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=
=3D7616783&CatId=3D3989
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834314006
>
> http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=
=3D7566808&Sku=3DD211-173406
>  On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, "van Sinn" <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
>
>> Core i7 is a decent=E6ly better optimized processor than previous
>> generation, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.
>>
>> I'd definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.
>> Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower power
>> consumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power supply wi=
ll
>> be less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stabili=
ty
>> when used in hot conditions.
>> The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of tasks, an=
d
>> fairly affordable.
>>
>> One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent outlets as
>> possible, as this translates directly to lower noise and better stabilit=
y.
>> I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cpu
>> and a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.
>> Also, they're some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.
>> /m
>>
>>
>> kay'lon rushing wrote:
>>
>>> Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz seems
>>> somewhat low. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no computer wiz. The Lapto=
p I
>>> use now is 2ghz. It's not i7 though.
>>>
>>>
>>>      >From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>>
>>>      >Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop
>>>      >To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com<Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com>
>>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@**loopers-delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com>
>>> >"
>>>     <Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com>
>>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@**loopers-delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com>
>>> >>
>>>      >Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM
>>>      >
>>>      >Hi Kay'lon,
>>>      >Most laptops are pretty good these days. I've been having good
>>>     luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I'd probably buy
>>>     this:http://www.newegg.com/**Product/Product.aspx?Item=3D**
>>> N82E16834215678<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E1=
6834215678>
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live
>>>     looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state drive)
>>>     if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to or
>>>     read from the disk.
>>>      >
>>>      >The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people anymore
>>>     use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well with
>>>     USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your
>>>     particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked for
>>>     other people. I'm currently using a pretty inexpensive Focusrite
>>>     Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I'm getting low levels of latency
>>>     that rival expensive RME sound cards.
>>>      >
>>>      >With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of RAM an=
d
>>>     a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably never
>>>     come close to the limits of the machine.
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.co=
m
>>>     <mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>      >
>>>      >Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live
>>>     looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to handle
>>>     decently heavy vst's well. My budget is under $1000. Any suggestion=
s?
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >--
>>>      >Art Simon
>>>      >simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/**K3Z/311236368904238<http://www.facebook=
.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238>
>>>
>>> My Music: - http://www.youtube.com/user/**gumdrops27<http://www.youtube=
.com/user/gumdrops27>
>>>                  - www.soundcloud.com/k3z <http://www.soundcloud.com/k3=
z
>>> **>
>>> My Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**k3z/<http://www.flickr.c=
om/photos/k3z/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> rgds,
>> van Sinn
>>
>>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have to say that at this point in the game, using the la=
st stable operating system, be it MAC or Windows, in a machine with a lot o=
f RAM you&#39;re likely to be fine (unless you are really a power user who =
is going to try to run video installations while you record 24 tracks in oc=
tophonic sound).<div>
<br></div><div style>It just seems to me that we are well past the days of =
most computers not being fit for music production without tweaks and=A0adju=
stments.</div><div style><br></div><div style>Of course a more informed opi=
nion easily trumps mine.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Kevin</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, kay&#39=
;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>So far after getting some help searching =
for a laptop from a friend of mine, we came down to these few. Which ones d=
o you guys recommend? Which one seems like a good buy? I was really looking=
 at the sony but dont know sony&#39;s reputation for music production.</p>


<p><a href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-detail=
s.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=3D3989" target=3D"_blank">http://m.tigerdir=
ect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=
=3D3989</a> <br>

<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E1683431400=
6" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E=
16834314006</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.a=
sp?EdpNo=3D7566808&amp;Sku=3DD211-173406" target=3D"_blank">http://m.tigerd=
irect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D7566808&amp;Sku=
=3DD211-173406</a> <br>


</p><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, &quot;van Sinn&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk" target=3D"_blank">vansinn@po=
st.cybercity.dk</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">

Core i7 is a decent=E6ly better optimized processor than previous generatio=
n, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.<br>
<br>
I&#39;d definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.<br>
Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower power co=
nsumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power supply will be=
 less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stability wh=
en used in hot conditions.<br>


The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of tasks, and f=
airly affordable.<br>
<br>
One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent outlets as po=
ssible, as this translates directly to lower noise and better stability.<br=
>
I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cpu an=
d a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.<br>
Also, they&#39;re some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.<br>
/m<br>
<br>
<br>
kay&#39;lon rushing wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz seems som=
ewhat low. Correct me if I&#39;m wrong as I&#39;m no computer wiz. The Lapt=
op I use now is 2ghz. It&#39;s not i7 though.<br>
<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;From: Art Simon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-<u></u>delight.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@<u></u>loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;&quot;<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-<u></u>delight.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@<u></u>loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Hi Kay&#39;lon,<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Most laptops are pretty good these days. I&#39;ve been havin=
g good<br>
=A0 =A0 luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I&#39;d probably buy<br>
=A0 =A0 this:<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN=
82E16834215678" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/<u></u>Product/Prod=
uct.aspx?Item=3D<u></u>N82E16834215678</a><br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live=
<br>
=A0 =A0 looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state drive)=
<br>
=A0 =A0 if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to or<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 read from the disk.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people an=
ymore<br>
=A0 =A0 use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well with<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your<br>
=A0 =A0 particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked for<br>
=A0 =A0 other people. I&#39;m currently using a pretty inexpensive Focusrit=
e<br>
=A0 =A0 Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I&#39;m getting low levels of laten=
cy<br>
=A0 =A0 that rival expensive RME sound cards.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of R=
AM and<br>
=A0 =A0 a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably never<br=
>
=A0 =A0 come close to the limits of the machine.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay&#39;lon rushing &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3=
zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live<br>
=A0 =A0 looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to handle<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 decently heavy vst&#39;s well. My budget is under $1000. Any sugges=
tions?<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;--<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Art Simon<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart=
@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/<u></u>K3Z/311236368904238</a><br>
<br>
My Music: - <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.youtube.com/user/<u></u>gumdrops27</a><br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- <a href=3D"http://www.soundcloud.com/k=
3z" target=3D"_blank">www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.=
soundcloud.com/k3z" target=3D"_blank">http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a><u><=
/u>&gt;<br>
My Photography: <a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/<u></u>k3z/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
rgds,<br>
van Sinn<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>=
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<=
br>
<br>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br><br>
</div>

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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/130502.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

Show #839 May 2, 2013.

WDIY Playlist:
http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=05-02-2013

RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on Radio Massacre
International.  The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one (West) from
"Solid States" on Northern Echo.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#may

PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Twyndyllyngs         untitled             unreleased (Fox's Den)
AeTopus              Angels and Machines  Angels and Machines (12 Ton)
Erdem Helvacioglu    Fields and Fences    Fields and Fences (Far East
   and Bill Walker                           West)
Bil Vermette         Ocer Greenland       Galaxies IV (Rainforest Prod.)
Raio Massacre        wrecks               Solid States: West (Northern
   International                             Echo)


12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Raio Massacre        ants in me room      Solid States: West (Northern
   International                             Echo)
Raio Massacre        black cloud over     Solid States: West (Northern
   International        claremont            Echo)
Raio Massacre        the lonliness of     Solid States: West (Northern
   International        the long distance    Echo)
                        drummer
Raio Massacre        'ave it!/erm         Solid States: West (Northern
   International                             Echo)


1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Radio Massacre International.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk
two (East) from "Solid States" on Northern Echo.

WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-05-09

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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I=E2=80=99d stay away from the Sonys.  They tend to have a lot of =
special stuff that=E2=80=99s Sony-only.  Acer makes a reliable machine!

From: Kevin Cheli-Colando=20
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 7:08 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop

I have to say that at this point in the game, using the last stable =
operating system, be it MAC or Windows, in a machine with a lot of RAM =
you're likely to be fine (unless you are really a power user who is =
going to try to run video installations while you record 24 tracks in =
octophonic sound).=20

It just seems to me that we are well past the days of most computers not =
being fit for music production without tweaks and adjustments.

Of course a more informed opinion easily trumps mine.

Kevin



On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> =
wrote:

  So far after getting some help searching for a laptop from a friend of =
mine, we came down to these few. Which ones do you guys recommend? Which =
one seems like a good buy? I was really looking at the sony but dont =
know sony's reputation for music production.

  =
http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D=
7616783&CatId=3D3989=20
  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834314006
  =
http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D=
7566808&Sku=3DD211-173406=20


  On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, "van Sinn" <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:

    Core i7 is a decent=C3=A6ly better optimized processor than previous =
generation, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.

    I'd definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.
    Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower =
power consumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power =
supply will be less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe =
increased stability when used in hot conditions.
    The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of =
tasks, and fairly affordable.

    One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent =
outlets as possible, as this translates directly to lower noise and =
better stability.
    I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt =
cpu and a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.
    Also, they're some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.
    /m


    kay'lon rushing wrote:

      Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz =
seems somewhat low. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no computer wiz. The =
Laptop I use now is 2ghz. It's not i7 though.


           >From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>>
           >Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop
           >To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
          <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>"
          <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
          <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>>
           >Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM
           >
           >Hi Kay'lon,
           >Most laptops are pretty good these days. I've been having =
good
          luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I'd probably buy
          =
this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834215678
           >
           >
           >8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live
          looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state =
drive)
          if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to =
or
          read from the disk.
           >
           >The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people =
anymore
          use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well =
with
          USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your
          particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked =
for
          other people. I'm currently using a pretty inexpensive =
Focusrite
          Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I'm getting low levels of =
latency
          that rival expensive RME sound cards.
           >
           >With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of =
RAM and
          a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably =
never
          come close to the limits of the machine.
           >
           >
           >On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay'lon rushing =
<k3zz21@gmail.com
          <mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com>> wrote:
           >
           >Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live
          looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to =
handle
          decently heavy vst's well. My budget is under $1000. Any =
suggestions?
           >
           >
           >
           >--
           >Art Simon
           >simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>
           >
           >




      --=20
      http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238

      My Music: - http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27
                       - www.soundcloud.com/k3z =
<http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z>
      My Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/





    --=20
    rgds,
    van Sinn






--=20
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all =
trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)


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<DIV>I=E2=80=99d stay away from the Sonys.&nbsp; They tend to have a lot =
of special=20
stuff that=E2=80=99s Sony-only.&nbsp; Acer makes a reliable =
machine!</DIV>
<DIV=20
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href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: In the market for a new =
laptop</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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you're=20
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<DIV>It just seems to me that we are well past the days of most =
computers not=20
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Which one=20
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sony's=20
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  <P><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.as=
p?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=3D3989"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-de=
tails.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=3D3989</A>=20
  <BR><A =
href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834314006=
"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168=
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  =
href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.as=
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  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, "van Sinn" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk"=20
  target=3D_blank>vansinn@post.cybercity.dk</A>&gt; wrote:<BR =
type=3D"attribution">
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
#ccc 1px solid">Core=20
    i7 is a decent=C3=A6ly better optimized processor than previous =
generation, so,=20
    depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.<BR><BR>I'd=20
    definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.<BR>Much better=20
    performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower power =
consumption -=20
    which likewise results in less heat as the power supply will be less =
loaded,=20
    all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stability when used =
in hot=20
    conditions.<BR>The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a =
variety=20
    of tasks, and fairly affordable.<BR><BR>One of my main lappy =
criteria is as=20
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directly=20
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Lenovo=20
    R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cpu and a Samsung 840 SSD, and =
will shop=20
    another Lenovo again.<BR>Also, they're some of the only (pro) ones =
that=20
    comes with firewire.<BR>/m<BR><BR><BR>kay'lon rushing wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
#ccc 1px solid">Art=20
      I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz =
seems=20
      somewhat low. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no computer wiz. The =
Laptop I=20
      use now is 2ghz. It's not i7 =
though.<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;From: Art Simon &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com"=20
      target=3D_blank>simart@gmail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com"=20
      =
target=3D_blank>simart@gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

      &gt;Subject: Re: In the market for a new=20
      laptop<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;To: "<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"=20
      =
target=3D_blank>Loopers-Delight@loopers-<U></U>delight.com</A><BR>&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &lt;mailto:<A href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"=20
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target=3D_blank>Loopers-Delight@<U></U>loopers-delight.com</A>&gt;"<BR>&n=
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nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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PM<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;Hi=20
      Kay'lon,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;Most laptops are pretty =
good=20
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Acer=20
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this:<A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834215678=
"=20
      =
target=3D_blank>http://www.newegg.com/<U></U>Product/Product.aspx?Item=3D=
<U></U>N82E16834215678</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;8Gb=20
      Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most=20
      live<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; looping. You could swap out the drive =
for a SSD=20
      (solid state drive)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if you have a large =
number of=20
      tracks of music being written to or<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; read =
from the=20
      disk.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;The=20
      biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people=20
      anymore<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; use a USB sound card, and not all =
chipsets=20
      work equally well with<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; USB audio. I would =
post in=20
      whatever forums there are for your<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
particular sound=20
      card and find out what laptops have worked =
for<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; other=20
      people. I'm currently using a pretty inexpensive=20
      Focusrite<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and =
I'm=20
      getting low levels of latency<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that rival =
expensive=20
      RME sound cards.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;With a $1000 budget you =
should be=20
      fine. Stick with lots of RAM and<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a top of =
the line=20
      Intel i7 processor and you will probably =
never<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; come=20
      close to the limits of the machine.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;On=20
      Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay'lon rushing &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com"=20
      target=3D_blank>k3zz21@gmail.com</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;mailto:<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" =
target=3D_blank>k3zz21@gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
      wrote:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for=20
      live<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; looping/production. Hopefully a skinny =
one that=20
      is able to handle<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; decently heavy vst's well. =
My=20
      budget is under $1000. Any =
suggestions?<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;--<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;Art Simon<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" =
target=3D_blank>simart@gmail.com</A>=20
      &lt;mailto:<A href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com"=20
      =
target=3D_blank>simart@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR><A =

      href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238"=20
      =
target=3D_blank>http://www.facebook.com/pages/<U></U>K3Z/311236368904238<=
/A><BR><BR>My=20
      Music: - <A href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27"=20
      =
target=3D_blank>http://www.youtube.com/user/<U></U>gumdrops27</A><BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      - <A href=3D"http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z"=20
      target=3D_blank>www.soundcloud.com/k3z</A> &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z"=20
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Thanks Jeff, that did the trick.
Sylvain


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>wrote:

>  Many functions that you call from scripts don't happen right away, they
> may be quantized, or they may be delayed slightly for latency compensation.
>  If you need to ensure that something in a script happens after the last
> function eventually completes, add the "Wait last" statement.
>
>  !name trigger1-3
> track1
> loop1
> Wait last
> variable newFrame = loopFrames*2/3
> move newFrame
> end
>
>  This is usually only necessary if you are changing tracks and loops.
>
>  Jeff
>
>
>
>   From: Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <
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> Date: Friday, May 3, 2013 3:15 PM
> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <
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> Subject: Mobius Scripting - Switching and Moving
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>
>   Can anyone tell me how I can switch loops and move to a loopFrame with
> a Mobius script?  The following scripts works as expected without the loop1
> call, but switching loops seems to cancel the move.  I'm guessing it has
> much to do with my switching presets, but I've tried all I can think of
> here...
>
>  !name trigger1-3
> track1
> loop1
> variable newFrame = loopFrames*2/3
> move newFrame
> end
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Jeff, that did the trick.<div>Sylvain</div></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3, =
2013 at 4:25 PM, Jeff Larson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff.l=
arson@sailpoint.com" target=3D"_blank">jeff.larson@sailpoint.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;word-wrap:break=
-word">
<div>Many functions that you call from scripts don&#39;t happen right away,=
 they may be quantized, or they may be delayed slightly for latency compens=
ation. =A0If you need to ensure that something in a script happens after th=
e last function eventually completes,
 add the &quot;Wait last&quot; statement.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>!name trigger1-3</div>
<div>track1</div>
<div>loop1</div>
<div>Wait last</div><div class=3D"im">
<div>variable newFrame =3D loopFrames*2/3</div>
<div>move newFrame</div>
<div>end</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div></div>
<div>This is usually only necessary if you are changing tracks and loops.</=
div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jeff</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
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adding-top:3pt;text-align:left;font-size:11pt;border-bottom:medium none;fon=
t-family:Calibri;border-top:#b5c4df 1pt solid;padding-bottom:0in;border-lef=
t:medium none">

<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span>Sylvain Poitras &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sylvain.trombone@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:L=
oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loope=
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ght.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>

<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, May 3, 2013 3:15 PM<b=
r>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers=
-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-del=
ight.com</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>

<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Mobius Scripting - Switchi=
ng and Moving<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Resent-From: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@lo=
opers-delight.com</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-d=
elight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<b=
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Resent-Date: </span>Friday, May 3, 2013 3:=
15 PM<br>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Can anyone tell me how I can switch loops and move to a loopFrame with=
 a Mobius script? =A0The following scripts works as expected without the lo=
op1 call, but switching loops seems to cancel the move. =A0I&#39;m guessing=
 it has much to do with my switching
 presets, but I&#39;ve tried all I can think of here...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>!name trigger1-3</div>
<div>track1</div>
<div>loop1</div>
<div>variable newFrame =3D loopFrames*2/3</div>
<div>move newFrame</div>
<div>end</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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I agree about the Sony's.  Also, IF you can find one, I'd try for one with
Firewire, but that may be difficult. That said, I use a Presonus Audiobox
USB interface with my laptop and it's fine.


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:44 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

> So far after getting some help searching for a laptop from a friend of
> mine, we came down to these few. Which ones do you guys recommend? Which
> one seems like a good buy? I was really looking at the sony but dont know
> sony's reputation for music production.
>
>
> http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=
=3D7616783&CatId=3D3989
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834314006
>
> http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=
=3D7566808&Sku=3DD211-173406
>  On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, "van Sinn" <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
>
>> Core i7 is a decent=E6ly better optimized processor than previous
>> generation, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.
>>
>> I'd definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.
>> Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower power
>> consumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power supply wi=
ll
>> be less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stabili=
ty
>> when used in hot conditions.
>> The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of tasks, an=
d
>> fairly affordable.
>>
>> One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent outlets as
>> possible, as this translates directly to lower noise and better stabilit=
y.
>> I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cpu
>> and a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.
>> Also, they're some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.
>> /m
>>
>>
>> kay'lon rushing wrote:
>>
>>> Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz seems
>>> somewhat low. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no computer wiz. The Lapto=
p I
>>> use now is 2ghz. It's not i7 though.
>>>
>>>
>>>      >From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>>
>>>      >Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop
>>>      >To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com<Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com>
>>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@**loopers-delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com>
>>> >"
>>>     <Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com>
>>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@**loopers-delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com>
>>> >>
>>>      >Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM
>>>      >
>>>      >Hi Kay'lon,
>>>      >Most laptops are pretty good these days. I've been having good
>>>     luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I'd probably buy
>>>     this:http://www.newegg.com/**Product/Product.aspx?Item=3D**
>>> N82E16834215678<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E1=
6834215678>
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live
>>>     looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state drive)
>>>     if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to or
>>>     read from the disk.
>>>      >
>>>      >The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people anymore
>>>     use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well with
>>>     USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your
>>>     particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked for
>>>     other people. I'm currently using a pretty inexpensive Focusrite
>>>     Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I'm getting low levels of latency
>>>     that rival expensive RME sound cards.
>>>      >
>>>      >With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of RAM an=
d
>>>     a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably never
>>>     come close to the limits of the machine.
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.co=
m
>>>     <mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>      >
>>>      >Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live
>>>     looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to handle
>>>     decently heavy vst's well. My budget is under $1000. Any suggestion=
s?
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >--
>>>      >Art Simon
>>>      >simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/**K3Z/311236368904238<http://www.facebook=
.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238>
>>>
>>> My Music: - http://www.youtube.com/user/**gumdrops27<http://www.youtube=
.com/user/gumdrops27>
>>>                  - www.soundcloud.com/k3z <http://www.soundcloud.com/k3=
z
>>> **>
>>> My Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**k3z/<http://www.flickr.c=
om/photos/k3z/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> rgds,
>> van Sinn
>>
>>


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-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I agree about the Sony&#39;s.=A0 Also, IF you can find one=
, I&#39;d try for one with Firewire, but that may be difficult. That said, =
I use a Presonus Audiobox USB interface with my laptop and it&#39;s fine.=
=A0 <br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri,=
 May 3, 2013 at 6:44 PM, kay&#39;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>So far after getting some help searching =
for a laptop from a friend of mine, we came down to these few. Which ones d=
o you guys recommend? Which one seems like a good buy? I was really looking=
 at the sony but dont know sony&#39;s reputation for music production.</p>


<p><a href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-detail=
s.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=3D3989" target=3D"_blank">http://m.tigerdir=
ect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=
=3D3989</a> <br>

<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E1683431400=
6" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E=
16834314006</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.a=
sp?EdpNo=3D7566808&amp;Sku=3DD211-173406" target=3D"_blank">http://m.tigerd=
irect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D7566808&amp;Sku=
=3DD211-173406</a> <br>


</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, &quot;van Sinn&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk" target=3D"_blank">vansinn@po=
st.cybercity.dk</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">

Core i7 is a decent=E6ly better optimized processor than previous generatio=
n, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.<br>
<br>
I&#39;d definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.<br>
Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower power co=
nsumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power supply will be=
 less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stability wh=
en used in hot conditions.<br>


The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of tasks, and f=
airly affordable.<br>
<br>
One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent outlets as po=
ssible, as this translates directly to lower noise and better stability.<br=
>
I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cpu an=
d a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.<br>
Also, they&#39;re some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.<br>
/m<br>
<br>
<br>
kay&#39;lon rushing wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz seems som=
ewhat low. Correct me if I&#39;m wrong as I&#39;m no computer wiz. The Lapt=
op I use now is 2ghz. It&#39;s not i7 though.<br>
<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;From: Art Simon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-<u></u>delight.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@<u></u>loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;&quot;<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-<u></u>delight.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@<u></u>loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Hi Kay&#39;lon,<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Most laptops are pretty good these days. I&#39;ve been havin=
g good<br>
=A0 =A0 luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I&#39;d probably buy<br>
=A0 =A0 this:<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN=
82E16834215678" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/<u></u>Product/Prod=
uct.aspx?Item=3D<u></u>N82E16834215678</a><br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live=
<br>
=A0 =A0 looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state drive)=
<br>
=A0 =A0 if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to or<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 read from the disk.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people an=
ymore<br>
=A0 =A0 use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well with<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your<br>
=A0 =A0 particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked for<br>
=A0 =A0 other people. I&#39;m currently using a pretty inexpensive Focusrit=
e<br>
=A0 =A0 Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I&#39;m getting low levels of laten=
cy<br>
=A0 =A0 that rival expensive RME sound cards.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of R=
AM and<br>
=A0 =A0 a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably never<br=
>
=A0 =A0 come close to the limits of the machine.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay&#39;lon rushing &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3=
zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live<br>
=A0 =A0 looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to handle<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 decently heavy vst&#39;s well. My budget is under $1000. Any sugges=
tions?<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;--<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Art Simon<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart=
@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
-- <br>
<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/<u></u>K3Z/311236368904238</a><br>
<br>
My Music: - <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.youtube.com/user/<u></u>gumdrops27</a><br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- <a href=3D"http://www.soundcloud.com/k=
3z" target=3D"_blank">www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.=
soundcloud.com/k3z" target=3D"_blank">http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a><u><=
/u>&gt;<br>
My Photography: <a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/<u></u>k3z/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
rgds,<br>
van Sinn<br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- <br>To=
ny
</div>

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Does this seem reasonable?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F1JL5A/ref=3Dmw_dp_mpd?pd=3D1&qid=3D13676=
45194&sr=3D8-2
On May 3, 2013 8:23 PM, "Tony K" <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree about the Sony's.  Also, IF you can find one, I'd try for one wit=
h
> Firewire, but that may be difficult. That said, I use a Presonus Audiobox
> USB interface with my laptop and it's fine.
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:44 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So far after getting some help searching for a laptop from a friend of
>> mine, we came down to these few. Which ones do you guys recommend? Which
>> one seems like a good buy? I was really looking at the sony but dont kno=
w
>> sony's reputation for music production.
>>
>>
>> http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=
=3D7616783&CatId=3D3989
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834314006
>>
>> http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=
=3D7566808&Sku=3DD211-173406
>>  On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, "van Sinn" <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
>>
>>> Core i7 is a decent=E6ly better optimized processor than previous
>>> generation, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine=
.
>>>
>>> I'd definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.
>>> Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower powe=
r
>>> consumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power supply w=
ill
>>> be less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stabil=
ity
>>> when used in hot conditions.
>>> The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of tasks,
>>> and fairly affordable.
>>>
>>> One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent outlets a=
s
>>> possible, as this translates directly to lower noise and better stabili=
ty.
>>> I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cp=
u
>>> and a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.
>>> Also, they're some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.
>>> /m
>>>
>>>
>>> kay'lon rushing wrote:
>>>
>>>> Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz seem=
s
>>>> somewhat low. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no computer wiz. The Lapt=
op I
>>>> use now is 2ghz. It's not i7 though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      >From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>>
>>>>      >Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop
>>>>      >To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com>
>>>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@**loopers-delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loop=
ers-delight.com>
>>>> >"
>>>>     <Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loopers-del=
ight.com>
>>>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@**loopers-delight.com<Loopers-Delight@loop=
ers-delight.com>
>>>> >>
>>>>      >Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM
>>>>      >
>>>>      >Hi Kay'lon,
>>>>      >Most laptops are pretty good these days. I've been having good
>>>>     luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I'd probably buy
>>>>     this:http://www.newegg.com/**Product/Product.aspx?Item=3D**
>>>> N82E16834215678<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E=
16834215678>
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live
>>>>     looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state drive=
)
>>>>     if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to or
>>>>     read from the disk.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people anymor=
e
>>>>     use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well with
>>>>     USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your
>>>>     particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked for
>>>>     other people. I'm currently using a pretty inexpensive Focusrite
>>>>     Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I'm getting low levels of latency
>>>>     that rival expensive RME sound cards.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of RAM a=
nd
>>>>     a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably never
>>>>     come close to the limits of the machine.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay'lon rushing <
>>>> k3zz21@gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      >Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live
>>>>     looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to handle
>>>>     decently heavy vst's well. My budget is under $1000. Any
>>>> suggestions?
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >--
>>>>      >Art Simon
>>>>      >simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/**K3Z/311236368904238<http://www.faceboo=
k.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238>
>>>>
>>>> My Music: - http://www.youtube.com/user/**gumdrops27<http://www.youtub=
e.com/user/gumdrops27>
>>>>                  - www.soundcloud.com/k3z <
>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z**>
>>>> My Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**k3z/<http://www.flickr.=
com/photos/k3z/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> rgds,
>>> van Sinn
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Tony
>

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<p>Does this seem reasonable? <a href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009=
F1JL5A/ref=3Dmw_dp_mpd?pd=3D1&amp;qid=3D1367645194&amp;sr=3D8-2">http://www=
.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F1JL5A/ref=3Dmw_dp_mpd?pd=3D1&amp;qid=3D1367645194&=
amp;sr=3D8-2</a></p>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 3, 2013 8:23 PM, &quot;Tony K&quot; &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:bigtonyk@gmail.com">bigtonyk@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br t=
ype=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I agree about the Sony&#39;s.=A0 Also, IF you can find one=
, I&#39;d try for one with Firewire, but that may be difficult. That said, =
I use a Presonus Audiobox USB interface with my laptop and it&#39;s fine.=
=A0 <br>

</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri,=
 May 3, 2013 at 6:44 PM, kay&#39;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>So far after getting some help searching =
for a laptop from a friend of mine, we came down to these few. Which ones d=
o you guys recommend? Which one seems like a good buy? I was really looking=
 at the sony but dont know sony&#39;s reputation for music production.</p>



<p><a href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-detail=
s.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=3D3989" target=3D"_blank">http://m.tigerdir=
ect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D7616783&amp;CatId=
=3D3989</a> <br>


<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E1683431400=
6" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E=
16834314006</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.a=
sp?EdpNo=3D7566808&amp;Sku=3DD211-173406" target=3D"_blank">http://m.tigerd=
irect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3D7566808&amp;Sku=
=3DD211-173406</a> <br>



</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 18, 2013 1:56 PM, &quot;van Sinn&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk" target=3D"_blank">vansinn@po=
st.cybercity.dk</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">


Core i7 is a decent=E6ly better optimized processor than previous generatio=
n, so, depending on needs, a 1.9GHz version might be just fine.<br>
<br>
I&#39;d definately replace the oldschool drive for an SSD.<br>
Much better performance, less noise, less heat developed and lower power co=
nsumption - which likewise results in less heat as the power supply will be=
 less loaded, all resulting in lower noise and maybe increased stability wh=
en used in hot conditions.<br>



The Samsung 840 series are very well-balanced for a variety of tasks, and f=
airly affordable.<br>
<br>
One of my main lappy criteria is as large a heatsink and vent outlets as po=
ssible, as this translates directly to lower noise and better stability.<br=
>
I currently have an older Lenovo R500, upgraded with a faster 35Watt cpu an=
d a Samsung 840 SSD, and will shop another Lenovo again.<br>
Also, they&#39;re some of the only (pro) ones that comes with firewire.<br>
/m<br>
<br>
<br>
kay&#39;lon rushing wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Art I looked at that link. It looks like a nice laptop but 1.9ghz seems som=
ewhat low. Correct me if I&#39;m wrong as I&#39;m no computer wiz. The Lapt=
op I use now is 2ghz. It&#39;s not i7 though.<br>
<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;From: Art Simon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-<u></u>delight.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@<u></u>loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;&quot;<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-<u></u>delight.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@<u></u>loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 8:40 PM<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Hi Kay&#39;lon,<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Most laptops are pretty good these days. I&#39;ve been havin=
g good<br>
=A0 =A0 luck with Acer recently, so If it were me I&#39;d probably buy<br>
=A0 =A0 this:<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN=
82E16834215678" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/<u></u>Product/Prod=
uct.aspx?Item=3D<u></u>N82E16834215678</a><br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;8Gb Ram and an i7 processor should be adequate for most live=
<br>
=A0 =A0 looping. You could swap out the drive for a SSD (solid state drive)=
<br>
=A0 =A0 if you have a large number of tracks of music being written to or<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 read from the disk.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;The biggest question mark is your sound card. Most people an=
ymore<br>
=A0 =A0 use a USB sound card, and not all chipsets work equally well with<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 USB audio. I would post in whatever forums there are for your<br>
=A0 =A0 particular sound card and find out what laptops have worked for<br>
=A0 =A0 other people. I&#39;m currently using a pretty inexpensive Focusrit=
e<br>
=A0 =A0 Scarlett 2i2 USB sound card and I&#39;m getting low levels of laten=
cy<br>
=A0 =A0 that rival expensive RME sound cards.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;With a $1000 budget you should be fine. Stick with lots of R=
AM and<br>
=A0 =A0 a top of the line Intel i7 processor and you will probably never<br=
>
=A0 =A0 come close to the limits of the machine.<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM, kay&#39;lon rushing &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a><br>
=A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3=
zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Looking for a new laptop on windows to use for live<br>
=A0 =A0 looping/production. Hopefully a skinny one that is able to handle<b=
r>
=A0 =A0 decently heavy vst&#39;s well. My budget is under $1000. Any sugges=
tions?<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;--<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;Art Simon<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart=
@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
-- <br>
<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/<u></u>K3Z/311236368904238</a><br>
<br>
My Music: - <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.youtube.com/user/<u></u>gumdrops27</a><br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- <a href=3D"http://www.soundcloud.com/k=
3z" target=3D"_blank">www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.=
soundcloud.com/k3z" target=3D"_blank">http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a><u><=
/u>&gt;<br>
My Photography: <a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/<u></u>k3z/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote><span><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
rgds,<br>
van Sinn<br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- <br>To=
ny
</div>
</blockquote></div>

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Hi all,

I am selling these two instruments:

Synthesizer:
Roland SH-201
http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/sh201.php
Take a look at the picture in the link - this synthesizer is built for live
performance, with separate controls and knobs for just about every
function. (No need to dial up matrix menus to assign parameters to knobs
like on many other synths.) This item hasn't been used much - it's in
sparkling condition. It comes with the instruction manual and a CDR of the
optional editing software for Windows and Mac. I have the original box too
- just not the styrofoam that came in the box. (Sorry Gino.) For its size,
it's also fairly light and easy to carry to shows.
$325

Sampler:
Ensoniq EPS
http://www.vintagesynth.com/ensoniq/ens_eps.php
This is from the days of standalone hardware keyboard samplers. Made in
1988, it's fairly heavy and uses a floppy disc drive for loading and saving
sounds. That said, it's fairly easy to operate the sampling controls and
have fun with it. This keyboard is fairly heavy at 29 pounds. It's in very
good shape - no big scratches or anything like that. I've tested it and
everything seems to be working as it should.
$200.

-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
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Hi all, <br><br>I am selling these two instruments: <br><br>Synthesizer: <b=
r>Roland SH-201<br><a href=3D"http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/sh201.php"=
>http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/sh201.php</a><br>Take
 a look at the picture in the link - this synthesizer is built for live=20
performance, with separate controls and knobs for just about every=20
function. (No need to dial up matrix menus to assign parameters to knobs
 like on many other synths.) This item hasn&#39;t been used much - it&#39;s=
 in=20
sparkling condition. It comes with the instruction manual and a CDR of=20
the optional editing software for Windows and Mac. I have the original=20
box too - just not the styrofoam that came in the box. (Sorry Gino.) For
 its size, it&#39;s also fairly light and easy to carry to shows.<br>$325<b=
r><br>Sampler: <br>Ensoniq EPS<br><a href=3D"http://www.vintagesynth.com/en=
soniq/ens_eps.php">http://www.vintagesynth.com/ensoniq/ens_eps.php</a><br>
This
 is from the days of standalone hardware keyboard samplers. Made in=20
1988, it&#39;s fairly heavy and uses a floppy disc drive for loading and=20
saving sounds. That said, it&#39;s fairly easy to operate the sampling=20
controls and have fun with it. This keyboard is fairly heavy at 29=20
pounds. It&#39;s in very good shape - no big scratches or anything like=20
that. I&#39;ve tested it and everything seems to be working as it should. <=
br>$200.<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"mailto:mat=
tdavignon@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>New ba=
ndcamp page: <a href=3D"http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank"=
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tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com</a><br>

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THOUGHT RADIO
http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio

My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, 
will be Saturday, March 23 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4.  In Phase One, I will 
continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs.

I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show 
features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an 
eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock.

Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at 
http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html

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I just wanted to share this with you all=2C it is my first "proper" Live Al=
bum. I have been on the list for sooo many years now=2C and I have finally =
had some success with finding my own "voice" and a few people who enjoy it =
enough to listen to me.  http://adultteeth.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-red-g=
allery The album was recorded in one take in the intimate surroundings of H=
ull's RED Gallery of Contemporary Art on 5th April 2013. It was composed on=
 the spot using a stage Piano=2C Echoplex Digital Pro=2C Line 6 M9=2C elect=
ribe=2C Flame 6 In a Row=2C Kaoss Pad and IOS devices running Thumbjam=2C A=
nimoog=2C Samplr=2C Loopy and Sunrizer along with Werkbench for the live sa=
mpling of household objects and audience interactions=2C the album is a uni=
que document of the performance as it was experienced by the audience on th=
e evening. 'Live at RED Gallery' is free to download=2C although listeners =
can make a small donation. This live release will be followed my real debut=
 studio album ADAPTER in September. It is such a buzz to finally have a sou=
nd and a method of working that I am happy to share with you all=2C I've ta=
ken so much inspiration and advice about gear from this forum. so thanks to=
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tember.<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>It is such a buzz to finally have a sound and a meth=
od of working that I am happy to share with you all=2C I've taken so much i=
nspiration and advice about gear from this forum.<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>so thanks =
to all <BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>Phill Wilson (MyOnaManBand)<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR> 		 	   	=
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Love it.

On May 4, 2013, at 7:45 AM, phillip wilson wrote:

> I just wanted to share this with you all, it is my first "proper" Live =
Album. I have been on the list for sooo many years now, and I have =
finally had some success with finding my own "voice" and a few people =
who enjoy it enough to listen to me.=20
> =20
> http://adultteeth.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-red-gallery
> =20
> The album was recorded in one take in the intimate surroundings of =
Hull's RED Gallery of Contemporary Art on 5th April 2013. It was =
composed on the spot using a stage Piano, Echoplex Digital Pro, Line 6 =
M9, electribe, Flame 6 In a Row, Kaoss Pad and IOS devices running =
Thumbjam, Animoog, Samplr, Loopy and Sunrizer along with Werkbench for =
the live sampling of household objects and audience interactions, the =
album is a unique document of the performance as it was experienced by =
the audience on the evening.
> =20
> 'Live at RED Gallery' is free to download, although listeners can make =
a small donation.
> =20
> This live release will be followed my real debut studio album ADAPTER =
in September.
> =20
> It is such a buzz to finally have a sound and a method of working that =
I am happy to share with you all, I've taken so much inspiration and =
advice about gear from this forum.
> =20
> so thanks to all=20
> =20
> Phill Wilson (MyOnaManBand)
> =20

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I wonder if is possible to send signals from, say, four midi controllers =
wireless and without much hardware. I saw these today: =
http://pulsecontroller.com, and I thought it would be charming to tape a =
number of them to a dancer or several dancers (Laurie Anderson has done =
something like this years ago but I don't remember the details).
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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2013/130504.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html

Show #248 May 4, 2013.

Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Twyndyllyngs         untitled             unreleased (Fox's Den)
VA [Titania Moon/    Transfusion          Sequences No. 23
   Julian Bishop]
VA [Mark Ashby]      Circumnavigating     Sequences No. 23
                        the Universe
Fanger & Schonwalder Triumphant Return    Analog Overdose in the
                                             Applebaum Nebula (Ricochet
                                             Dream)
Fanger & Schonwalder Nebula Symphony      Analog Overdose in the
                                             Applebaum Nebula (Ricochet
                                             Dream)


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Parijat              Prayer To Love       Prayer To Love (New Earth)
John Medeski         I'm Falling In Love  A Different Time (Okeh)
                        Again
Ashik                Seven Mad Gypsies    Gypsy Soul (New Earth)


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Radio Massacre       Rain Falls In A      Rain Falls In A Different Way
                        Different Way        (Northern Echo)
3rdegree             13/Mistakes          Human Interest Story (none)
John Galgano         1000                 Real Life Is Meeting (Doone)
Alan Morse           Cold Fusion *        Four O'clock and Hysteria
                                             (InsideOut)


  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill Fox
========================================================================
Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4.
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html

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Hi Michael,

I have one of those pulse controllers, they're a lot of fun.  The hardware
unit is only a contact microphone that plugs into your computer's line
input.  The real controller is the software that handles that input.

Therefore, to use the pulse controller wirelessly you'll need to send
wireless sound, not midi.  That should be easier...

(It also means that once you've purchased the software you can use any
contact microphones with it, no need to buy more controllers)

Sylvain

On Saturday, May 4, 2013, Michael Peters wrote:

> I wonder if is possible to send signals from, say, four midi controllers
> wireless and without much hardware. I saw these today:
> http://pulsecontroller.com, and I thought it would be charming to tape a
> number of them to a dancer or several dancers (Laurie Anderson has done
> something like this years ago but I don't remember the details).****
>
> ** **
>
> -Michael****
>
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>
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>

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<div><br></div><div>Therefore, to use the pulse controller wirelessly you&#=
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iv><div><br></div><div>(It also means that once you&#39;ve purchased the so=
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Gibson Echoplex Pro (white face, w/o upgrade) with footswitch.  Both are 
in excellent cosmetic and functional condition.  $525 + shipping and 
fees.  Email me for pics and details.

Elby

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Hi Folks,

I have a Repeater whose powersupply has gone walkabout.  I tried 
emailing Condor Electronics, but didn't get a reply.  Anyone have 
suggestions on where I can get a replacement powersupply?  I want to 
sell the unit (two of them, in fact!), but figure noone is going to buy 
an item with a special-purpose powersupply if none are available.

Thanks,
Elby

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I sourced a power supply for my repeater, but Condor installed a permanently=
 hard wired one for me.

I'm traveling now for the next week but once I get home, if I can find the P=
SU, and if you've not yet found one, I'll be happy to give you mine.

Phil

Sent from my iPhone

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> I have a Repeater whose powersupply has gone walkabout.  I tried emailing C=
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owersupply if none are available.
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> Thanks,
> Elby
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What about ultrabooks? I want something thin and light. Are they good
enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. Would that handle well with
vst patches and stuff?
On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:

> I also recommend staying away from Sony's. In my experience, Sony's
> support from the standpoint of drivers, etc stops soon after they ship th=
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> Mark
>
> On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
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<p>What about ultrabooks? I want something thin and light. Are they good en=
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patches and stuff?</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, &quot;Mark Hamburg&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com">mark@grubmah.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
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&#39;s. In my experience, Sony&#39;s support from the standpoint of drivers=
, etc stops soon after they ship the machine.<div><br></div><div>Mark</div>
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Hey Kay'lon,

I'd stick go with a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and
light laptop for music, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these days.
I'd concur with those who say to avoid Sony, and I'd add HP and Gateway to
that list of manufacturers who stop supporting older products.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

> What about ultrabooks? I want something thin and light. Are they good
> enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. Would that handle well with
> vst patches and stuff?
> On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>
>> I also recommend staying away from Sony's. In my experience, Sony's
>> support from the standpoint of drivers, etc stops soon after they ship t=
he
>> machine.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
>>
>>   I=92d stay away from the Sonys.  They tend to have a lot of special
>> stuff that=92s Sony-only.  Acer makes a reliable machine!
>>
>>
>>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Kay&#39;lon,<div><br></div><div style>I&#39;d stick go=
 with a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and light laptop for=
 music, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these days. I&#39;d concur =
with those who say to avoid Sony, and I&#39;d add HP and Gateway to that li=
st of=A0manufacturers=A0who stop supporting older products.=A0</div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun,=
 May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay&#39;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>What about ultrabooks? I want something t=
hin and light. Are they good enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. W=
ould that handle well with vst patches and stuff?</p>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, &quot;Mark Hamburg&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@grubmah.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I also recommend staying away from Sony=
&#39;s. In my experience, Sony&#39;s support from the standpoint of drivers=
, etc stops soon after they ship the machine.<div><br></div><div>Mark</div>

<div><br><div><div>On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:</div>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;">
<div>I=92d stay away from the Sonys.=A0 They tend to have a lot of special=
=20
stuff that=92s Sony-only.=A0 Acer makes a reliable machine!</div></div></di=
v></div>
</blockquote></div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
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In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I plan on doing a
lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live audio looping?



On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Kay'lon,
>
> I'd stick go with a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and
> light laptop for music, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these day=
s.
> I'd concur with those who say to avoid Sony, and I'd add HP and Gateway t=
o
> that list of manufacturers who stop supporting older products.
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What about ultrabooks? I want something thin and light. Are they good
>> enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. Would that handle well with
>> vst patches and stuff?
>>  On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I also recommend staying away from Sony's. In my experience, Sony's
>>> support from the standpoint of drivers, etc stops soon after they ship =
the
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
>>>
>>>   I=92d stay away from the Sonys.  They tend to have a lot of special
>>> stuff that=92s Sony-only.  Acer makes a reliable machine!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I=
 plan on doing a lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live=
 audio looping?<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Kay&#39;lon,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;d stick go with =
a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and light laptop for music=
, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these days. I&#39;d concur with t=
hose who say to avoid Sony, and I&#39;d add HP and Gateway to that list of=
=A0manufacturers=A0who stop supporting older products.=A0</div>

</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay&#39;lon rushing <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz2=
1@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>What about ultrabooks? I want something t=
hin and light. Are they good enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. W=
ould that handle well with vst patches and stuff?</p>

<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, &quot;Mark Hamburg&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@grubmah.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I also recommend staying away from Sony=
&#39;s. In my experience, Sony&#39;s support from the standpoint of drivers=
, etc stops soon after they ship the machine.<div><br></div><div>Mark</div>


<div><br><div><div>On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:</div>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;">
<div>I=92d stay away from the Sonys.=A0 They tend to have a lot of special=
=20
stuff that=92s Sony-only.=A0 Acer makes a reliable machine!</div></div></di=
v></div>
</blockquote></div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div><=
/div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Art Simon<br><a =
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It's tough to say what the minimum specs are, it depends how much you want
to do. You can loop with a netbook. In terms of optimum specs, I'd look for
a quad core i7 processor and 4Gb of Ram.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

> In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I plan on doing =
a
> lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live audio looping?
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Kay'lon,
>>
>> I'd stick go with a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and
>> light laptop for music, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these da=
ys.
>> I'd concur with those who say to avoid Sony, and I'd add HP and Gateway =
to
>> that list of manufacturers who stop supporting older products.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>
>>> What about ultrabooks? I want something thin and light. Are they good
>>> enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. Would that handle well wit=
h
>>> vst patches and stuff?
>>>  On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also recommend staying away from Sony's. In my experience, Sony's
>>>> support from the standpoint of drivers, etc stops soon after they ship=
 the
>>>> machine.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I=92d stay away from the Sonys.  They tend to have a lot of special
>>>> stuff that=92s Sony-only.  Acer makes a reliable machine!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Art Simon
>> simart@gmail.com
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It&#39;s tough to say what the minimum specs are, it depen=
ds how much you want to do. You can loop with a netbook. In terms of optimu=
m specs, I&#39;d look for a quad core i7 processor and 4Gb of Ram.</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, kay&#39=
;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I=
 plan on doing a lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live=
 audio looping?<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div cl=
ass=3D"h5">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Kay&#39;lon,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;d stick go with =
a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and light laptop for music=
, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these days. I&#39;d concur with t=
hose who say to avoid Sony, and I&#39;d add HP and Gateway to that list of=
=A0manufacturers=A0who stop supporting older products.=A0</div>


</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay&#39;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>What about ultrabooks? I want something t=
hin and light. Are they good enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. W=
ould that handle well with vst patches and stuff?</p>


<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, &quot;Mark Hamburg&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@grubmah.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I also recommend staying away from Sony=
&#39;s. In my experience, Sony&#39;s support from the standpoint of drivers=
, etc stops soon after they ship the machine.<div><br></div><div>Mark</div>



<div><br><div><div>On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:</div>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;">
<div>I=92d stay away from the Sonys.=A0 They tend to have a lot of special=
=20
stuff that=92s Sony-only.=A0 Acer makes a reliable machine!</div></div></di=
v></div>
</blockquote></div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div><=
/div><span><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D"mailto:si=
mart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a><br>
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You might want to look at ThinkPads and IdeaPads from Lenovo as well - they
seem to generally be well regarded (I've seen this discussion come up a lot
on the GearSlutz music computers, where they're definitely most concerned
with issues of latency/etc. for running their DAWs).

Probably one of the biggest things you need to identify is exactly what
you'll be doing, and how much CPU and memory that's going to take - it
should give you a better baseline over what you'll need.


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's tough to say what the minimum specs are, it depends how much you wan=
t
> to do. You can loop with a netbook. In terms of optimum specs, I'd look f=
or
> a quad core i7 processor and 4Gb of Ram.
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
>> In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I plan on doing
>> a lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live audio loopi=
ng?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Kay'lon,
>>>
>>> I'd stick go with a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and
>>> light laptop for music, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these d=
ays.
>>> I'd concur with those who say to avoid Sony, and I'd add HP and Gateway=
 to
>>> that list of manufacturers who stop supporting older products.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>wrote=
:
>>>
>>>> What about ultrabooks? I want something thin and light. Are they good
>>>> enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. Would that handle well wi=
th
>>>> vst patches and stuff?
>>>>  On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also recommend staying away from Sony's. In my experience, Sony's
>>>>> support from the standpoint of drivers, etc stops soon after they shi=
p the
>>>>> machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   I=92d stay away from the Sonys.  They tend to have a lot of special
>>>>> stuff that=92s Sony-only.  Acer makes a reliable machine!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Art Simon
>>> simart@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238
>>
>> My Music: - http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27
>>                  - www.soundcloud.com/k3z
>> My Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">You might want to look at ThinkPads and IdeaPads from Leno=
vo as well - they seem to generally be well regarded (I&#39;ve seen this di=
scussion come up a lot on the GearSlutz music computers, where they&#39;re =
definitely most concerned with issues of latency/etc. for running their DAW=
s). <br>

<br>Probably one of the biggest things you need to identify is exactly what=
 you&#39;ll be doing, and how much CPU and memory that&#39;s going to take =
- it should give you a better baseline over what you&#39;ll need. <br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6=
, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">It&#39;s tough to say what the minimum specs are, it depen=
ds how much you want to do. You can loop with a netbook. In terms of optimu=
m specs, I&#39;d look for a quad core i7 processor and 4Gb of Ram.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<div><div class=3D"h5">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, kay&#39=
;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">


<div dir=3D"ltr">In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I=
 plan on doing a lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live=
 audio looping?<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Kay&#39;lon,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;d stick go with =
a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and light laptop for music=
, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these days. I&#39;d concur with t=
hose who say to avoid Sony, and I&#39;d add HP and Gateway to that list of=
=A0manufacturers=A0who stop supporting older products.=A0</div>




</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay&#39;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>




<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>What about ultrabooks? I want something t=
hin and light. Are they good enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. W=
ould that handle well with vst patches and stuff?</p>




<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, &quot;Mark Hamburg&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@grubmah.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I also recommend staying away from Sony=
&#39;s. In my experience, Sony&#39;s support from the standpoint of drivers=
, etc stops soon after they ship the machine.<div><br></div><div>Mark</div>





<div><br><div><div>On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:</div>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;">
<div>I=92d stay away from the Sonys.=A0 They tend to have a lot of special=
=20
stuff that=92s Sony-only.=A0 Acer makes a reliable machine!</div></div></di=
v></div>
</blockquote></div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div><=
/div><span><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D"mailto:si=
mart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a><br>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><div>--=
 <br><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238</a><br>
<br>My Music: - <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27</a><br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0 - <a href=3D"http://www.soun=
dcloud.com/k3z" target=3D"_blank">www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a><br></div>My Ph=
otography: <a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/</a><br>



<br><br>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D"mail=
to:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a><br>
</font></span></div>
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this company claims to make laptops for musicians:
 
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So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or other iss=
ues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty what the=
 Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and money wer=
e not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?

Andy not Butler

On May 6, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Justin Higgins <zadillo@gmail.com> wrote:

> You might want to look at ThinkPads and IdeaPads from Lenovo as well - the=
y seem to generally be well regarded (I've seen this discussion come up a lo=
t on the GearSlutz music computers, where they're definitely most concerned w=
ith issues of latency/etc. for running their DAWs).=20
>=20
> Probably one of the biggest things you need to identify is exactly what yo=
u'll be doing, and how much CPU and memory that's going to take - it should g=
ive you a better baseline over what you'll need.=20
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's tough to say what the minimum specs are, it depends how much you wan=
t to do. You can loop with a netbook. In terms of optimum specs, I'd look fo=
r a quad core i7 processor and 4Gb of Ram.
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>> In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I plan on doing=
 a lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live audio looping?=

>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey Kay'lon,
>>>>=20
>>>> I'd stick go with a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and l=
ight laptop for music, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these days. I=
'd concur with those who say to avoid Sony, and I'd add HP and Gateway to th=
at list of manufacturers who stop supporting older products.=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>>>>> What about ultrabooks? I want something thin and light. Are they good e=
nough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. Would that handle well with vst p=
atches and stuff?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I also recommend staying away from Sony's. In my experience, Sony's s=
upport from the standpoint of drivers, etc stops soon after they ship the ma=
chine.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I=E2=80=99d stay away from the Sonys.  They tend to have a lot of sp=
ecial stuff that=E2=80=99s Sony-only.  Acer makes a reliable machine!
>>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> --=20
>>>> Art Simon
>>>> simart@gmail.com
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --=20
>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238
>>>=20
>>> My Music: - http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27
>>>                  - www.soundcloud.com/k3z
>>> My Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Art Simon
>> simart@gmail.com
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>So is the lack of much suggestions of A=
pple laptops due to cost or other issues? If someone just wanted to build a p=
latform to replicate pretty what the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Ste=
inberg A/D converters, and money were not particularly an issue, would the A=
pple be your suggestion?</div><div><br></div><div>Andy not Butler</div><div>=
<br>On May 6, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Justin Higgins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zadill=
o@gmail.com">zadillo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">You might want to look at ThinkPads and IdeaPad=
s from Lenovo as well - they seem to generally be well regarded (I've seen t=
his discussion come up a lot on the GearSlutz music computers, where they're=
 definitely most concerned with issues of latency/etc. for running their DAW=
s). <br>

<br>Probably one of the biggest things you need to identify is exactly what y=
ou'll be doing, and how much CPU and memory that's going to take - it should=
 give you a better baseline over what you'll need. <br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6,=
 2013 at 1:17 AM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">It's tough to say what the minimum specs are, it depends ho=
w much you want to do. You can loop with a netbook. In terms of optimum spec=
s, I'd look for a quad core i7 processor and 4Gb of Ram.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<div><div class=3D"h5">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, kay'lon r=
ushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">


<div dir=3D"ltr">In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I p=
lan on doing a lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live au=
dio looping?<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Kay'lon,<div><br></div><div>I'd stick go with a bigger p=
rocessor (and bigger size) over a thin and light laptop for music, but even t=
he ultrabooks are pretty good these days. I'd concur with those who say to a=
void Sony, and I'd add HP and Gateway to that list of&nbsp;manufacturers&nbs=
p;who stop supporting older products.&nbsp;</div>




</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay'lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>




<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>What about ultrabooks? I want something thi=
n and light. Are they good enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. Woul=
d that handle well with vst patches and stuff?</p>




<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, "Mark Hamburg" &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@grubmah.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I also recommend staying away from Sony'=
s. In my experience, Sony's support from the standpoint of drivers, etc stop=
s soon after they ship the machine.<div><br></div><div>Mark</div>





<div><br><div><div>On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:</div><=
br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Calibri'">
<div>I=E2=80=99d stay away from the Sonys.&nbsp; They tend to have a lot of s=
pecial=20
stuff that=E2=80=99s Sony-only.&nbsp; Acer makes a reliable machine!</div></=
div></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></=
div><span><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D"mailto:sima=
rt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a><br>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><div>-- <=
br><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238</a><br>
<br>My Music: - <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27</a><br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; &nbsp;&nbsp; - <a href=3D"http://www.soundcloud.com/k3z" target=3D"_blank=
">www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a><br></div>My Photography: <a href=3D"http://www.=
flickr.com/photos/k3z/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/<=
/a><br>



<br><br>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span cl=
ass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D"mailto=
:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a><br>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></blockquote></body></html>=

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It really completely depends on your needs.  I'm personally both a Mac and
PC person, and depending on what you need, a 13" MBP isn't going to cost
significantly more than a nice comparable PC.  But really it comes down to
what software you're going to want to run.

That's an especially important point I think to look at - for example, if
you're going to be using Cubase, it seems to be generally accepted that
Cubase performs better in Windows for the time being.  Ableton is more of a
toss-up, and of course if you want to use Logic, Main Stage, etc. then a
Mac is your only option.

Justin


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Andrrew Owens <rootpile@icloud.com> wrote:

> So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or other
> issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty wh=
at
> the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and mon=
ey
> were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?
>
> Andy not Butler
>
> On May 6, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Justin Higgins <zadillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You might want to look at ThinkPads and IdeaPads from Lenovo as well -
> they seem to generally be well regarded (I've seen this discussion come u=
p
> a lot on the GearSlutz music computers, where they're definitely most
> concerned with issues of latency/etc. for running their DAWs).
>
> Probably one of the biggest things you need to identify is exactly what
> you'll be doing, and how much CPU and memory that's going to take - it
> should give you a better baseline over what you'll need.
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's tough to say what the minimum specs are, it depends how much you
>> want to do. You can loop with a netbook. In terms of optimum specs, I'd
>> look for a quad core i7 processor and 4Gb of Ram.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>wrote=
:
>>
>>> In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I plan on doin=
g
>>> a lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live audio loop=
ing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Kay'lon,
>>>>
>>>> I'd stick go with a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and
>>>> light laptop for music, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these =
days.
>>>> I'd concur with those who say to avoid Sony, and I'd add HP and Gatewa=
y to
>>>> that list of manufacturers who stop supporting older products.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>wrot=
e:
>>>>
>>>>> What about ultrabooks? I want something thin and light. Are they good
>>>>> enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. Would that handle well w=
ith
>>>>> vst patches and stuff?
>>>>>  On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also recommend staying away from Sony's. In my experience, Sony's
>>>>>> support from the standpoint of drivers, etc stops soon after they sh=
ip the
>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I=92d stay away from the Sonys.  They tend to have a lot of specia=
l
>>>>>> stuff that=92s Sony-only.  Acer makes a reliable machine!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Art Simon
>>>> simart@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238
>>>
>>> My Music: - http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27
>>>                  - www.soundcloud.com/k3z
>>> My Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> simart@gmail.com
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>It really completely depends on your needs.=A0 I=
&#39;m personally both a Mac and PC person, and depending on what you need,=
 a 13&quot; MBP isn&#39;t going to cost significantly more than a nice comp=
arable PC.=A0 But really it comes down to what software you&#39;re going to=
 want to run.<br>

<br></div>That&#39;s an especially important point I think to look at - for=
 example, if you&#39;re going to be using Cubase, it seems to be generally =
accepted that Cubase performs better in Windows for the time being.=A0 Able=
ton is more of a toss-up, and of course if you want to use Logic, Main Stag=
e, etc. then a Mac is your only option. <br>

</div><div><br></div>Justin<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Andrrew Owens <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rootpile@icloud.com" target=3D"_blank">=
rootpile@icloud.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>So is the lack of muc=
h suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or other issues? If someone just=
 wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty what the Looperlative LP1 d=
oes, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and money were not particularly=
 an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?</div>

<div><br></div><div>Andy not Butler</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On=
 May 6, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Justin Higgins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zadillo@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">zadillo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">

<div><div dir=3D"ltr">You might want to look at ThinkPads and IdeaPads from=
 Lenovo as well - they seem to generally be well regarded (I&#39;ve seen th=
is discussion come up a lot on the GearSlutz music computers, where they&#3=
9;re definitely most concerned with issues of latency/etc. for running thei=
r DAWs). <br>



<br>Probably one of the biggest things you need to identify is exactly what=
 you&#39;ll be doing, and how much CPU and memory that&#39;s going to take =
- it should give you a better baseline over what you&#39;ll need. <br>


</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6=
, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"ltr">It&#39;s tough to say what the minimum specs are, it depen=
ds how much you want to do. You can loop with a netbook. In terms of optimu=
m specs, I&#39;d look for a quad core i7 processor and 4Gb of Ram.</div>


<div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, kay&#39=
;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr">In general what are the minimum specs I should go for if I=
 plan on doing a lot of live looping with vst instruments and possibly live=
 audio looping?<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Kay&#39;lon,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;d stick go with =
a bigger processor (and bigger size) over a thin and light laptop for music=
, but even the ultrabooks are pretty good these days. I&#39;d concur with t=
hose who say to avoid Sony, and I&#39;d add HP and Gateway to that list of=
=A0manufacturers=A0who stop supporting older products.=A0</div>






</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM, kay&#39;lon rushing <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>






<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>What about ultrabooks? I want something t=
hin and light. Are they good enough? Say like an i5 1.8 ghz with 8gb ram. W=
ould that handle well with vst patches and stuff?</p>






<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 4, 2013 4:22 PM, &quot;Mark Hamburg&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@grubmah.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I also recommend staying away from Sony=
&#39;s. In my experience, Sony&#39;s support from the standpoint of drivers=
, etc stops soon after they ship the machine.<div><br></div><div>Mark</div>







<div><br><div><div>On May 3, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:</div>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;">
<div>I=92d stay away from the Sonys.=A0 They tend to have a lot of special=
=20
stuff that=92s Sony-only.=A0 Acer makes a reliable machine!</div></div></di=
v></div>
</blockquote></div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div><=
/div><span><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D"mailto:si=
mart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a><br>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><div>--=
 <br><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238</a><br>
<br>My Music: - <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27</a><br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0 - <a href=3D"http://www.soun=
dcloud.com/k3z" target=3D"_blank">www.soundcloud.com/k3z</a><br></div>My Ph=
otography: <a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.flickr.com/photos/k3z/</a><br>





<br><br>
</div>
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Another company like Rain is:

http://www.adkproaudio.com/


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> this company claims to make laptops for musicians:****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.raincomputers.com****
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> http://www.raincomputers.co.uk****
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Another company like Rain is:<br><br><a href=3D"http://www=
.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</a><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:17=
 PM, Michael Peters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de" =
target=3D"_blank">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"DE"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US">this company claims to make l=
aptops for musicians:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">

<span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p><p=
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s.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=
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/font></span></span></p>

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On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew Owens <rootpile@icloud.com> wrote:
> So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or other
> issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty what
> the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and money
> were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?

My belief is that for the reason of "replicating pretty what the
Looperlative LP1 does" it doesn't matter if Apple, Dell or you
yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is what audio
interface you chose to use.

The traditional reason for going with an Apple box is that they are
produced in such a controlled way that you pretty much know what
you're getting and if you need service the repair man has access to
accurate documentation. Then there are of course some software that
run better under Apple's OS but that is not the case here (as I
imagine you'd like to run Mobius on it which works with Windows too).

I personally like using Apple's computers because of the low downtime
when switching machine. When I was using all kinds of Windows based
machines I solved this workflow consistency issue by installing
several identical boot partitions on several alternative drives so I
could always reboot from another system clone if something should go
wrong (and of course no internet or virus protection software in the
audio system partition).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Thanks Ted=2C  very much appreciated.
 Phill> Subject: Re: Live Looping from RED Gallery
> From: tedkillian@charter.net
> Date: Sat=2C 4 May 2013 09:28:17 -0700
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> Love it.
>=20
> On May 4=2C 2013=2C at 7:45 AM=2C phillip wilson wrote:
>=20
> > I just wanted to share this with you all=2C it is my first "proper" Liv=
e Album. I have been on the list for sooo many years now=2C and I have fina=
lly had some success with finding my own "voice" and a few people who enjoy=
 it enough to listen to me.=20
> > =20
> > http://adultteeth.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-red-gallery
> > =20
> > The album was recorded in one take in the intimate surroundings of Hull=
's RED Gallery of Contemporary Art on 5th April 2013. It was composed on th=
e spot using a stage Piano=2C Echoplex Digital Pro=2C Line 6 M9=2C electrib=
e=2C Flame 6 In a Row=2C Kaoss Pad and IOS devices running Thumbjam=2C Anim=
oog=2C Samplr=2C Loopy and Sunrizer along with Werkbench for the live sampl=
ing of household objects and audience interactions=2C the album is a unique=
 document of the performance as it was experienced by the audience on the e=
vening.
> > =20
> > 'Live at RED Gallery' is free to download=2C although listeners can mak=
e a small donation.
> > =20
> > This live release will be followed my real debut studio album ADAPTER i=
n September.
> > =20
> > It is such a buzz to finally have a sound and a method of working that =
I am happy to share with you all=2C I've taken so much inspiration and advi=
ce about gear from this forum.
> > =20
> > so thanks to all=20
> > =20
> > Phill Wilson (MyOnaManBand)
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e it.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B On May 4=2C 2013=2C at 7:45 AM=2C phillip wilson=
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l=2C it is my first "proper" Live Album. I have been on the list for sooo m=
any years now=2C and I have finally had some success with finding my own "v=
oice" and a few people who enjoy it enough to listen to me. <br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B  <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B http://adultteeth.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-red-gal=
lery<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B  <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B The album was recorded in one take=
 in the intimate surroundings of Hull's RED Gallery of Contemporary Art on =
5th April 2013. It was composed on the spot using a stage Piano=2C Echoplex=
 Digital Pro=2C Line 6 M9=2C electribe=2C Flame 6 In a Row=2C Kaoss Pad and=
 IOS devices running Thumbjam=2C Animoog=2C Samplr=2C Loopy and Sunrizer al=
ong with Werkbench for the live sampling of household objects and audience =
interactions=2C the album is a unique document of the performance as it was=
 experienced by the audience on the evening.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B  <br>&gt=3B &=
gt=3B 'Live at RED Gallery' is free to download=2C although listeners can m=
ake a small donation.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B  <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B This live release=
 will be followed my real debut studio album ADAPTER in September.<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B  <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B It is such a buzz to finally have a sound and=
 a method of working that I am happy to share with you all=2C I've taken so=
 much inspiration and advice about gear from this forum.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B  =
<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B so thanks to all <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B  <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Phi=
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I think that Mr. Rushing is used to Windows, and generally my advice for
'laptop as a music tool' is 'go with what you know'. In general
light/ultrabooks are going to cost you more than a 'regular laptop', and
will probably have fewer USB/Whatever ports.

T


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew Owens <rootpile@icloud.com> wrote:
> > So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or other
> > issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty
> what
> > the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and
> money
> > were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?
>
> My belief is that for the reason of "replicating pretty what the
> Looperlative LP1 does" it doesn't matter if Apple, Dell or you
> yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is what audio
> interface you chose to use.
>
> The traditional reason for going with an Apple box is that they are
> produced in such a controlled way that you pretty much know what
> you're getting and if you need service the repair man has access to
> accurate documentation. Then there are of course some software that
> run better under Apple's OS but that is not the case here (as I
> imagine you'd like to run Mobius on it which works with Windows too).
>
> I personally like using Apple's computers because of the low downtime
> when switching machine. When I was using all kinds of Windows based
> machines I solved this workflow consistency issue by installing
> several identical boot partitions on several alternative drives so I
> could always reboot from another system clone if something should go
> wrong (and of course no internet or virus protection software in the
> audio system partition).
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think that Mr. Rushing is used to Windows, and generally=
 my advice for &#39;laptop as a music tool&#39; is &#39;go with what you kn=
ow&#39;. In general light/ultrabooks are going to cost you more than a &#39=
;regular laptop&#39;, and will probably have fewer USB/Whatever ports.=A0<d=
iv>
<br></div><div>T<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew=
 Owens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rootpile@icloud.com" target=3D"_blank">rootpil=
e@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>



&gt; So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or oth=
er<br>
&gt; issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty=
 what<br>
&gt; the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and =
money<br>
&gt; were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?<br=
>
<br>
</div>My belief is that for the reason of &quot;replicating pretty what the=
<br>
Looperlative LP1 does&quot; it doesn&#39;t matter if Apple, Dell or you<br>
yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is what audio<br>
interface you chose to use.<br>
<br>
The traditional reason for going with an Apple box is that they are<br>
produced in such a controlled way that you pretty much know what<br>
you&#39;re getting and if you need service the repair man has access to<br>
accurate documentation. Then there are of course some software that<br>
run better under Apple&#39;s OS but that is not the case here (as I<br>
imagine you&#39;d like to run Mobius on it which works with Windows too).<b=
r>
<br>
I personally like using Apple&#39;s computers because of the low downtime<b=
r>
when switching machine. When I was using all kinds of Windows based<br>
machines I solved this workflow consistency issue by installing<br>
several identical boot partitions on several alternative drives so I<br>
could always reboot from another system clone if something should go<br>
wrong (and of course no internet or virus protection software in the<br>
audio system partition).<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/perboysen" target=3D"_blank">http://www.y=
outube.com/perboysen</a><br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <b=
r><a href=3D"http://toaster.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">http://toaster.=
bandcamp.com</a>
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anyone using Android? I wonder how to get a stereo line signal into my =
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This stuff is just starting to make its way to Android.  IK Multimedia
recently released iRig Recorder and they are making their various hardware
bits Android compatible, so that would probably be a good first place to
look:

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> anyone using Android? I wonder how to get a stereo line signal into my
> tablet. It has a USB port, so why aren't there any USB soundcards for
> Android?****
>
> ** **
>
> (yes I know that Apple is better for music)****
>
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>
> -Michael****
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This stuff is just starting to make its way to Android.=A0=
 IK Multimedia recently released iRig Recorder and they are making their va=
rious hardware bits Android compatible, so that would probably be a good fi=
rst place to look: <br>

<br><a href=3D"http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/">h=
ttp://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/</a><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6, 201=
3 at 3:04 PM, Michael Peters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mp@mpe=
ters.de" target=3D"_blank">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"DE"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US">anyone using Android? I wonde=
r how to get a stereo line signal into my tablet. It has a USB port, so why=
 aren&#39;t there any USB soundcards for Android?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" l=
ang=3D"EN-US">(yes I know that Apple is better for music)<span class=3D"HOE=
nZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p>

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I was on such an island, I had my favorite looper in my pocket but not =
much more available=85 so I might as well try to prove a point: looping =
is always fun=85 ;)
Hope you'll enjoy that weird experiment in desert-island-looping too=85
http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns
;)
z
zzz@zzz.ch - http://zzz.ch



On 28 avr. 2013, at 22:26, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> If you had to choose only one live looping iOS App
> to go to your desert island (equipped with infinite supplies
> of batteries, of course <wink>)...........
>=20
> ..........what would it be and why?
>=20
> (thanks ahead of time for your collective wisdom and experience.)
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> Rick Walker
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always fun=85 ;)<div>Hope you'll enjoy that weird experiment in =
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href=3D"http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns">http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns</a></div>=
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Give this a try, for USB audio recording on Android:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudiorecorderpro

Probably some better options will come eventually (Sonoma WireWorks has
been demonstrating some SDK stuff to offer better audio latency
performance, etc. that I think they intend to license to OEMs), but it does
seem like it's a bit behind where things are right now on iOS.


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Justin Higgins <zadillo@gmail.com> wrote:

> This stuff is just starting to make its way to Android.  IK Multimedia
> recently released iRig Recorder and they are making their various hardware
> bits Android compatible, so that would probably be a good first place to
> look:
>
> http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
>
>> anyone using Android? I wonder how to get a stereo line signal into my
>> tablet. It has a USB port, so why aren't there any USB soundcards for
>> Android?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> (yes I know that Apple is better for music)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -Michael****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Give this a try, for USB audio recording on Android:<=
br><br><a href=3D"https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dcom.extre=
amsd.usbaudiorecorderpro">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dc=
om.extreamsd.usbaudiorecorderpro</a><br>

<br></div>Probably some better options will come eventually (Sonoma WireWor=
ks has been demonstrating some SDK stuff to offer better audio latency perf=
ormance, etc. that I think they intend to license to OEMs), but it does see=
m like it&#39;s a bit behind where things are right now on iOS. <br>

</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon,=
 May 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Justin Higgins <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:zadillo@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">zadillo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">This stuff is just starting=
 to make its way to Android.=A0 IK Multimedia recently released iRig Record=
er and they are making their various hardware bits Android compatible, so t=
hat would probably be a good first place to look: <br>


<br><a href=3D"http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/<=
/a><br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra">

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Michael =
Peters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de" target=3D"_bl=
ank">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"DE"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US">anyone using Android? I wonde=
r how to get a stereo line signal into my tablet. It has a USB port, so why=
 aren&#39;t there any USB soundcards for Android?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"><u></u><u></u></span></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" l=
ang=3D"EN-US">(yes I know that Apple is better for music)<span><font color=
=3D"#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p>


<span><font color=3D"#888888"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#=
1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
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One time I looped on the Dessert Island at Shoneys, does that count?

On May 6, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Z <zzz@zzz.ch> wrote:

> I was on such an island, I had my favorite looper in my pocket but not muc=
h more available=E2=80=A6 so I might as well try to prove a point: looping i=
s always fun=E2=80=A6 ;)
> Hope you'll enjoy that weird experiment in desert-island-looping too=E2=80=
=A6
> http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns
> ;)
> z
> zzz@zzz.ch - http://zzz.ch
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 28 avr. 2013, at 22:26, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>=20
>> If you had to choose only one live looping iOS App
>> to go to your desert island (equipped with infinite supplies
>> of batteries, of course <wink>)...........
>>=20
>> ..........what would it be and why?
>>=20
>> (thanks ahead of time for your collective wisdom and experience.)
>>=20
>> Rick Walker
>=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>One time I looped on the Dessert Islan=
d at Shoneys, does that count?</div><div><br>On May 6, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Z &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zzz@zzz.ch">zzz@zzz.ch</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text=
/html charset=3Dwindows-1252">I was on such an island, I had my favorite loo=
per in my pocket but not much more available=E2=80=A6 so I might as well try=
 to prove a point: looping is always fun=E2=80=A6 ;)<div>Hope you'll enjoy t=
hat weird experiment in desert-island-looping too=E2=80=A6</div><div><a href=
=3D"http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns">http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns</a></div><div>;=
)</div><div>z<br><div><div><div apple-content-edited=3D"true"><span class=3D=
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rphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><a href=
=3D"mailto:zzz@zzz.ch">zzz@zzz.ch</a> - <a href=3D"http://zzz.ch">http://zzz=
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</div>
<br><div><div>On 28 avr. 2013, at 22:26, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l=
ooppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"App=
le-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">If you had to choose only o=
ne live looping iOS App<br>to go to your desert island (equipped with infini=
te supplies<br>of batteries, of course &lt;wink&gt;)...........<br><br>.....=
.....what would it be and why?<br><br>(thanks ahead of time for your collect=
ive wisdom and experience.)<br><br>Rick Walker<br><br></blockquote></div><br=
></div></div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>=

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I'd say yes indeed definitely. :D

On 6 mai 2013, at 22:11, Andrrew Owens <rootpile@icloud.com> wrote:

> One time I looped on the Dessert Island at Shoneys, does that count?
>=20
> On May 6, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Z <zzz@zzz.ch> wrote:
>=20
>> I was on such an island, I had my favorite looper in my pocket but =
not much more available=85 so I might as well try to prove a point: =
looping is always fun=85 ;)
>> Hope you'll enjoy that weird experiment in desert-island-looping too=85=

>> http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns
>> ;)
>> z
>> zzz@zzz.ch - http://zzz.ch
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 28 avr. 2013, at 22:26, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> If you had to choose only one live looping iOS App
>>> to go to your desert island (equipped with infinite supplies
>>> of batteries, of course <wink>)...........
>>>=20
>>> ..........what would it be and why?
>>>=20
>>> (thanks ahead of time for your collective wisdom and experience.)
>>>=20
>>> Rick Walker
>>>=20
>>=20


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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'd =
say yes indeed definitely. :D<div><br><div><div>On 6 mai 2013, at 22:11, =
Andrrew Owens &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rootpile@icloud.com">rootpile@icloud.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
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charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>One time I looped on the Dessert =
Island at Shoneys, does that count?</div><div><br>On May 6, 2013, at =
2:47 PM, Z &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zzz@zzz.ch">zzz@zzz.ch</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dwindows-1252">I=
 was on such an island, I had my favorite looper in my pocket but not =
much more available=85 so I might as well try to prove a point: looping =
is always fun=85 ;)<div>Hope you'll enjoy that weird experiment in =
desert-island-looping too=85</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns">http://youtu.be/8r2G3ShR4ns</a></div>=
<div>;)</div><div>z<br><div><div apple-content-edited=3D"true"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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href=3D"mailto:zzz@zzz.ch">zzz@zzz.ch</a> - <a =
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<br><div><div>On 28 avr. 2013, at 22:26, Rick Walker &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">If you had to choose only one live looping iOS App<br>to =
go to your desert island (equipped with infinite supplies<br>of =
batteries, of course &lt;wink&gt;)...........<br><br>..........what =
would it be and why?<br><br>(thanks ahead of time for your collective =
wisdom and experience.)<br><br>Rick =
Walker<br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></bloc=
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And one more, this is the Sonoma WireWorks thing I was talking about:

http://www.sonomawireworks.com/guitarjackusb/

It still says that compatible Android devices are to be determined:

"Compatible Android devices to be determined. Android compatibility
requires Sonoma's Low Latency Audio (LLA)
Solution<http://www.sonomawireworks.com/pr/android-low-latency-audio-solution.php>which
is available for license to device manufacturers."

So, your mileage may vary.  I haven't yet heard which Android devices will
support this.


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Justin Higgins <zadillo@gmail.com> wrote:

> Give this a try, for USB audio recording on Android:
>
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudiorecorderpro
>
> Probably some better options will come eventually (Sonoma WireWorks has
> been demonstrating some SDK stuff to offer better audio latency
> performance, etc. that I think they intend to license to OEMs), but it does
> seem like it's a bit behind where things are right now on iOS.
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Justin Higgins <zadillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This stuff is just starting to make its way to Android.  IK Multimedia
>> recently released iRig Recorder and they are making their various hardware
>> bits Android compatible, so that would probably be a good first place to
>> look:
>>
>> http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
>>
>>> anyone using Android? I wonder how to get a stereo line signal into my
>>> tablet. It has a USB port, so why aren't there any USB soundcards for
>>> Android?****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> (yes I know that Apple is better for music)****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> -Michael****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>And one more, this is the Sonoma WireWorks thing=
 I was talking about:<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.sonomawireworks.com/guit=
arjackusb/">http://www.sonomawireworks.com/guitarjackusb/</a><br><br></div>=
It still says that compatible Android devices are to be determined:<br>

<br>&quot;Compatible Android devices to be determined. Android compatibilit=
y requires <a href=3D"http://www.sonomawireworks.com/pr/android-low-latency=
-audio-solution.php">Sonoma&#39;s Low Latency Audio (LLA) Solution</a> whic=
h is available for license to device manufacturers.&quot;<br>

<br></div>So, your mileage may vary.=A0 I haven&#39;t yet heard which Andro=
id devices will support this. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Justin Higgins <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zadillo@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>zadillo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Give this a try, for U=
SB audio recording on Android:<br><br><a href=3D"https://play.google.com/st=
ore/apps/details?id=3Dcom.extreamsd.usbaudiorecorderpro" target=3D"_blank">=
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dcom.extreamsd.usbaudiorecor=
derpro</a><br>


<br></div>Probably some better options will come eventually (Sonoma WireWor=
ks has been demonstrating some SDK stuff to offer better audio latency perf=
ormance, etc. that I think they intend to license to OEMs), but it does see=
m like it&#39;s a bit behind where things are right now on iOS. <br>


</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Justin Hig=
gins <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zadillo@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">zadillo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">This stuff is just starting=
 to make its way to Android.=A0 IK Multimedia recently released iRig Record=
er and they are making their various hardware bits Android compatible, so t=
hat would probably be a good first place to look: <br>



<br><a href=3D"http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigrecorderandroid/<=
/a><br></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Michael =
Peters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de" target=3D"_bl=
ank">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"DE"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US">anyone using Android? I wonde=
r how to get a stereo line signal into my tablet. It has a USB port, so why=
 aren&#39;t there any USB soundcards for Android?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"><u></u><u></u></span></p>



<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" l=
ang=3D"EN-US">(yes I know that Apple is better for music)<span><font color=
=3D"#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p>



<span><font color=3D"#888888"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#=
1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US">-Michael<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d" lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=A0=
<u></u></span></p></font></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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Yep, windows only. Im not anti mac but the software i use is better on
windows. I've pretty much decided im going with the lenovo u410 i7. It
pretty much meets every requirement i've requested.
On May 6, 2013 10:45 AM, "Todd Elliott" <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that Mr. Rushing is used to Windows, and generally my advice for
> 'laptop as a music tool' is 'go with what you know'. In general
> light/ultrabooks are going to cost you more than a 'regular laptop', and
> will probably have fewer USB/Whatever ports.
>
> T
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew Owens <rootpile@icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>> > So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or other
>> > issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty
>> what
>> > the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and
>> money
>> > were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?
>>
>> My belief is that for the reason of "replicating pretty what the
>> Looperlative LP1 does" it doesn't matter if Apple, Dell or you
>> yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is what audio
>> interface you chose to use.
>>
>> The traditional reason for going with an Apple box is that they are
>> produced in such a controlled way that you pretty much know what
>> you're getting and if you need service the repair man has access to
>> accurate documentation. Then there are of course some software that
>> run better under Apple's OS but that is not the case here (as I
>> imagine you'd like to run Mobius on it which works with Windows too).
>>
>> I personally like using Apple's computers because of the low downtime
>> when switching machine. When I was using all kinds of Windows based
>> machines I solved this workflow consistency issue by installing
>> several identical boot partitions on several alternative drives so I
>> could always reboot from another system clone if something should go
>> wrong (and of course no internet or virus protection software in the
>> audio system partition).
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboysen.com
>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://toaster.bandcamp.com
>

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<p>Yep, windows only. Im not anti mac but the software i use is better on w=
indows. I&#39;ve pretty much decided im going with the lenovo u410 i7. It p=
retty much meets every requirement i&#39;ve requested.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 6, 2013 10:45 AM, &quot;Todd Elliott&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:toddbert@gmail.com">toddbert@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I think that Mr. Rushing is used to Windows, and generally=
 my advice for &#39;laptop as a music tool&#39; is &#39;go with what you kn=
ow&#39;. In general light/ultrabooks are going to cost you more than a &#39=
;regular laptop&#39;, and will probably have fewer USB/Whatever ports.=A0<d=
iv>

<br></div><div>T<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew=
 Owens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rootpile@icloud.com" target=3D"_blank">rootpil=
e@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>




&gt; So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or oth=
er<br>
&gt; issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty=
 what<br>
&gt; the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and =
money<br>
&gt; were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?<br=
>
<br>
</div>My belief is that for the reason of &quot;replicating pretty what the=
<br>
Looperlative LP1 does&quot; it doesn&#39;t matter if Apple, Dell or you<br>
yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is what audio<br>
interface you chose to use.<br>
<br>
The traditional reason for going with an Apple box is that they are<br>
produced in such a controlled way that you pretty much know what<br>
you&#39;re getting and if you need service the repair man has access to<br>
accurate documentation. Then there are of course some software that<br>
run better under Apple&#39;s OS but that is not the case here (as I<br>
imagine you&#39;d like to run Mobius on it which works with Windows too).<b=
r>
<br>
I personally like using Apple&#39;s computers because of the low downtime<b=
r>
when switching machine. When I was using all kinds of Windows based<br>
machines I solved this workflow consistency issue by installing<br>
several identical boot partitions on several alternative drives so I<br>
could always reboot from another system clone if something should go<br>
wrong (and of course no internet or virus protection software in the<br>
audio system partition).<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/perboysen" target=3D"_blank">http://www.y=
outube.com/perboysen</a><br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <b=
r><a href=3D"http://toaster.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">http://toaster.=
bandcamp.com</a>
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http://daycoms.com/dvmmaa.php

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<p>Will it work?</p>

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Apologies for the spam,  Not sure where it's coming from. My computer is
clean and multiple checks with different malware and antiviruses haven't
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Peace~

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Not sure if this was mentioned already:

http://www.songkick.com/events/16619244

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I too have considered this approach, but awaits more useful apps.

However, regarding audio interface, look into the Behringer uca202.
Great detailed review - with surprising reaults:
http://www.nwavguy.blogspot.dk/2011/02/behringer-uca202-review.htm

Also, there's a post on forums.vr-zone.com titled something like "Enable USB 
audio on any Android 4.0"

/van


Michael Peters wrote:
> anyone using Android? I wonder how to get a stereo line signal into my 
> tablet. It has a USB port, so why aren't there any USB soundcards for 
> Android?
> 
> (yes I know that Apple is better for music)
> 
> -Michael


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van Sinn wrote:
> Great detailed review - with surprising reaults:
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Sorry, it's html (with an l) ;)
http://www.nwavguy.blogspot.dk/2011/02/behringer-uca202-review.html

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I have not tried it on Windows 8 but I'm 99.9% certain it will work.  They =
didn't change the core Windows architecture much, it was mostly that wretch=
ed Metro UI.  Some say it performs better for audio applications.

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2012/11/21/windows-8-beats-windows-7-for-=
audio-production-performance-tests/

MIDI OX works on Windows 7 so it should work on 8.

Jeff

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Will it work?

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I will be performing in June at the Electronic Arts Festival - 
Harvestworks with Nina Goede. Improvising to a movie just using the 
original sounds of the shooting (as one long loop of material...;-)
Later I am involved in Christer Hennix work at ISUUE Project room.
I post here not only to announce that, I am also searching for 
opportunities to perform and/or to do workshops.
At Harvestworks we will set up somthing. And I would like to know what 
kind of interest are there in specific areas of my work.
I could show my homegrown Max patch called "Les Ondes Memorielles" and 
explain its relation to looping.
I'd also like to know about venues to perform. I would do it for the hat 
and hope to get the missing part of my budget for the flight together...;-)
Of course just to meet Loopers would be nice too. Is there an existing 
loopers circle in NY?

All info about how to survive artistically in NYC and who would be 
interested in coming to concerts or to attend a workshop is well 
appreciated...

Stefan

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Am 04.05.13 22:49, schrieb Sylvain Poitras:
> Therefore, to use the pulse controller wirelessly you'll need to send
> wireless sound, not midi.  That should be easier...

The software is obviously a Max patch, to interpret that pulse is pretty 
much free that way for those who are familiar with Max...

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Any SoftStep users here successfully hacked the Nav keys for your own =
evil purposes?

SS is a promising lightweight portable foot controller but the gotcha =
(for me) is the relatively hard coded nature of the Nav keys.

These keys ought to be perfect to use for next and previous loop =
commands across one axis, and next/previous layer or scene or whatever, =
across the other axis. Echoloop, EDP, Mobius style workflow.

I've been messing with MIDI Pipe and MIDI Translator to try to convert =
SoftStep's output to simple Note On and Note Off messages, with only =
partial success=85 in Standalone mode with Scene Change set to OFF=85 so =
I'm getting CC messages 80, 81, 82, 83 from the SS nav keys=85=20

Any insights out there?

Phil :)=

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Thanks for the link Jeff, that's a really interesting and well done video.

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
> I have not tried it on Windows 8 but I'm 99.9% certain it will work.  They
> didn't change the core Windows architecture much, it was mostly that
> wretched Metro UI.  Some say it performs better for audio applications.
>
> http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2012/11/21/windows-8-beats-windows-7-for-audio-production-performance-tests/
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> MIDI OX works on Windows 7 so it should work on 8.
>
> Jeff
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> Will it work?



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Hey Phil,
When I got my SoftStep I wanted to use the navigation keys in the same =
way but abandoned the Idea, when i realized it's not possible by =
default. I never thought of hacking it, as I'm not very familiar with =
all the computer stuff. If you find way to do the trick, please let me =
know.

Chris


Am 09.05.2013 um 08:17 schrieb Philip Clevenger:

> Any SoftStep users here successfully hacked the Nav keys for your own =
evil purposes?
>=20
> SS is a promising lightweight portable foot controller but the gotcha =
(for me) is the relatively hard coded nature of the Nav keys.
>=20
> These keys ought to be perfect to use for next and previous loop =
commands across one axis, and next/previous layer or scene or whatever, =
across the other axis. Echoloop, EDP, Mobius style workflow.
>=20
> I've been messing with MIDI Pipe and MIDI Translator to try to convert =
SoftStep's output to simple Note On and Note Off messages, with only =
partial success=85 in Standalone mode with Scene Change set to OFF=85 so =
I'm getting CC messages 80, 81, 82, 83 from the SS nav keys=85=20
>=20
> Any insights out there?
>=20
> Phil :)

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You can definitely build your own, but for the price you get a good contact
mic and the software is already made for you...  it was worth the expense
for me (it was cheaper when I got mine).

Sylvain


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> Am 04.05.13 22:49, schrieb Sylvain Poitras:
>
>  Therefore, to use the pulse controller wirelessly you'll need to send
>> wireless sound, not midi.  That should be easier...
>>
>
> The software is obviously a Max patch, to interpret that pulse is pretty
> much free that way for those who are familiar with Max...
>
> Stefan
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">You can definitely build your own, but for the price you g=
et a good contact mic and the software is already made for you... =A0it was=
 worth the expense for me (it was cheaper when I got mine).<div><br></div><=
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Sylvain</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Stefan Tiedje <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:stefantiedje@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">stefantied=
je@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am 04.05.13 22:49, schrieb Sylvain Poitras:<=
div class=3D"im"><br>
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Therefore, to use the pulse controller wirelessly you&#39;ll need to send<b=
r>
wireless sound, not midi. =A0That should be easier...<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
The software is obviously a Max patch, to interpret that pulse is pretty mu=
ch free that way for those who are familiar with Max...<span class=3D"HOEnZ=
b"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
Stefan<br>
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Well I'm part way there.. Using MIDI Pipe I've got the standalone CC message=
s translated to the desired Note... But in still getting loads of pressure d=
ata messages... So instead of a clean Note On / Note Off, I'm getting dozens=
 of one or the other, with variable pressure values for each one.

It's enough to make me believe its possible, and to indicate that at this po=
int the challenge is in the MIDI translator, rather than the SoftStep.

Phil=20

Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Christoph Lehmann <krrrs@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hey Phil,
> When I got my SoftStep I wanted to use the navigation keys in the same way=
 but abandoned the Idea, when i realized it's not possible by default. I nev=
er thought of hacking it, as I'm not very familiar with all the computer stu=
ff. If you find way to do the trick, please let me know.
>=20
> Chris
>=20
>=20
> Am 09.05.2013 um 08:17 schrieb Philip Clevenger:
>=20
>> Any SoftStep users here successfully hacked the Nav keys for your own evi=
l purposes?
>>=20
>> SS is a promising lightweight portable foot controller but the gotcha (fo=
r me) is the relatively hard coded nature of the Nav keys.
>>=20
>> These keys ought to be perfect to use for next and previous loop commands=
 across one axis, and next/previous layer or scene or whatever, across the o=
ther axis. Echoloop, EDP, Mobius style workflow.
>>=20
>> I've been messing with MIDI Pipe and MIDI Translator to try to convert So=
ftStep's output to simple Note On and Note Off messages, with only partial s=
uccess=E2=80=A6 in Standalone mode with Scene Change set to OFF=E2=80=A6 so I=
'm getting CC messages 80, 81, 82, 83 from the SS nav keys=E2=80=A6=20
>>=20
>> Any insights out there?
>>=20
>> Phil :)
>=20

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There are a few of us here in New York...   perhaps we can plan a meetup!

At 12:25 PM +0200 5/10/13, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>I will be performing in June at the Electronic Arts Festival - 
>Harvestworks with Nina Goede. Improvising to a movie just using the 
>original sounds of the shooting (as one long loop of material...;-)
>Later I am involved in Christer Hennix work at ISUUE Project room.
>I post here not only to announce that, I am also searching for 
>opportunities to perform and/or to do workshops.
>At Harvestworks we will set up somthing. And I would like to know 
>what kind of interest are there in specific areas of my work.
>I could show my homegrown Max patch called "Les Ondes Memorielles" 
>and explain its relation to looping.
>I'd also like to know about venues to perform. I would do it for the 
>hat and hope to get the missing part of my budget for the flight 
>together...;-)
>Of course just to meet Loopers would be nice too. Is there an 
>existing loopers circle in NY?
>
>All info about how to survive artistically in NYC and who would be 
>interested in coming to concerts or to attend a workshop is well 
>appreciated...
>
>Stefan
>
>--
>Les Ondes Memorielles--------x--
>-_____-----------|-----------|--
>-(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
>- _|_)----|-----()--------------
>---------()----------TJ Shredder
>http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/


-- 

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://albumcredits.com/zmix

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Yes, it's possible, there's a guy on the Mobius forum that made a Bidule gr=
oup to do something similar.=0A=
=0A=
=A0 =A0 http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D8&t=3D5620=0A=
=0A=
I'm pretty sure someone made a Max/MSP patch but I can't find it right now.=
=0A=
=0A=
I had considered writing a little VST plugin to do the MIDI translation but=
 lost interest in it=0A=
after they fixed standalone mode. =A0=0A=
=0A=
Jeff=0A=
________________________________________=0A=
From: Philip Clevenger [phil.clevenger@gmail.com]=0A=
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:02 AM=0A=
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A=
Subject: Re: SoftStep Nav Keys=0A=
=0A=
Well I'm part way there.. Using MIDI Pipe I've got the standalone CC=0A=
messages translated to the desired Note... But in still getting loads of=0A=
pressure data messages... So instead of a clean Note On / Note Off, I'm=0A=
getting dozens of one or the other, with variable pressure values for each=
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one.=0A=
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It's enough to make me believe its possible, and to indicate that at this=
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point the challenge is in the MIDI translator, rather than the SoftStep.=0A=
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Phil=0A=
=0A=
Sent from my iPhone=0A=
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On May 11, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Christoph Lehmann <krrrs@gmx.de> wrote:=0A=
=0A=
> Hey Phil,=0A=
> When I got my SoftStep I wanted to use the navigation keys in the same=0A=
way but abandoned the Idea, when i realized it's not possible by default. I=
=0A=
never thought of hacking it, as I'm not very familiar with all the computer=
=0A=
stuff. If you find way to do the trick, please let me know.=0A=
>=0A=
> Chris=0A=
>=0A=
>=0A=
> Am 09.05.2013 um 08:17 schrieb Philip Clevenger:=0A=
>=0A=
>> Any SoftStep users here successfully hacked the Nav keys for your own=0A=
evil purposes?=0A=
>>=0A=
>> SS is a promising lightweight portable foot controller but the gotcha=0A=
(for me) is the relatively hard coded nature of the Nav keys.=0A=
>>=0A=
>> These keys ought to be perfect to use for next and previous loop=0A=
commands across one axis, and next/previous layer or scene or whatever,=0A=
across the other axis. Echoloop, EDP, Mobius style workflow.=0A=
>>=0A=
>> I've been messing with MIDI Pipe and MIDI Translator to try to convert=
=0A=
SoftStep's output to simple Note On and Note Off messages, with only partia=
l=0A=
success=8A in Standalone mode with Scene Change set to OFF=8A so I'm gettin=
g CC=0A=
messages 80, 81, 82, 83 from the SS nav keys=8A=0A=
>>=0A=
>> Any insights out there?=0A=
>>=0A=
>> Phil :)=0A=
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Im in NY as well. Mainly online these days re music activity but will try to=
 catch you Stefan.  I believe Sylvain is also coming to NY this month.

Jim Goodin
Http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com

On May 11, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:=


> There are a few of us here in New York...   perhaps we can plan a meetup!
>=20
> At 12:25 PM +0200 5/10/13, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>> I will be performing in June at the Electronic Arts Festival - Harvestwor=
ks with Nina Goede. Improvising to a movie just using the original sounds of=
 the shooting (as one long loop of material...;-)
>> Later I am involved in Christer Hennix work at ISUUE Project room.
>> I post here not only to announce that, I am also searching for opportunit=
ies to perform and/or to do workshops.
>> At Harvestworks we will set up somthing. And I would like to know what ki=
nd of interest are there in specific areas of my work.
>> I could show my homegrown Max patch called "Les Ondes Memorielles" and ex=
plain its relation to looping.
>> I'd also like to know about venues to perform. I would do it for the hat a=
nd hope to get the missing part of my budget for the flight together...;-)
>> Of course just to meet Loopers would be nice too. Is there an existing lo=
opers circle in NY?
>>=20
>> All info about how to survive artistically in NYC and who would be intere=
sted in coming to concerts or to attend a workshop is well appreciated...
>>=20
>> Stefan
>>=20
>> --
>> Les Ondes Memorielles--------x--
>> -_____-----------|-----------|--
>> -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
>> - _|_)----|-----()--------------
>> ---------()----------TJ Shredder
>> http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/
>=20
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>=20
> http://albumcredits.com/zmix
>=20

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Great to hear that you're taking on NY now, Stefan! It was so fun
meeting you and jamming here in Stockholm last summer. I'd like to
recommend everyone in NY to take the chance to check out Stefan's
instrument, homegrown Max patch called "Les Ondes Memorielles". Some
smart sound mangling design there and he's also very good with it.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Im in NY as well. Mainly online these days re music activity but will try to catch you Stefan.  I believe Sylvain is also coming to NY this month.
>
> Jim Goodin
> Http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com
>
> On May 11, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> There are a few of us here in New York...   perhaps we can plan a meetup!
>>
>> At 12:25 PM +0200 5/10/13, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>>> I will be performing in June at the Electronic Arts Festival - Harvestworks with Nina Goede. Improvising to a movie just using the original sounds of the shooting (as one long loop of material...;-)
>>> Later I am involved in Christer Hennix work at ISUUE Project room.
>>> I post here not only to announce that, I am also searching for opportunities to perform and/or to do workshops.
>>> At Harvestworks we will set up somthing. And I would like to know what kind of interest are there in specific areas of my work.
>>> I could show my homegrown Max patch called "Les Ondes Memorielles" and explain its relation to looping.
>>> I'd also like to know about venues to perform. I would do it for the hat and hope to get the missing part of my budget for the flight together...;-)
>>> Of course just to meet Loopers would be nice too. Is there an existing loopers circle in NY?
>>>
>>> All info about how to survive artistically in NYC and who would be interested in coming to concerts or to attend a workshop is well appreciated...
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Les Ondes Memorielles--------x--
>>> -_____-----------|-----------|--
>>> -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
>>> - _|_)----|-----()--------------
>>> ---------()----------TJ Shredder
>>> http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ...
>> http://www.zmix.net
>>
>> http://albumcredits.com/zmix
>>
>

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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

05.14.13 AMBiENT TRANSMiSSiONS . Night 2
A special presentation for Deep Wireless in collaboration
with NAISA featuring D. BURKE MAHONEY + QMT +
CAMERON/DAVISON DUO + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS
@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market
     just south of College . Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     Tues. May 14th . Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6

8:30 . D. Burke Mahoney . Scanning the shortwave dial for the
faintest of transmissions, D.Burke Mahoney creates compositions
that haunt and stimulate his listeners. Radio has become his
instrument of choice in creating richly textured and melodic
soundscapes that range from heavy and dense to sparse and
subtle. Mahoney's compositions encourage a wide variety of
interpretation. D. Burke Mahoney is a Toronto-based sound artist.
http://www.dburkemahoney.com

9:30 . QMT is a new project by Alan Bloor, James Bailey & Matthew
Poulakakis. The trio taps, rubs, scrapes and otherwise manipulates
instruments both home made & found, mostly made of metal, to
create improvised soundscapes. The results are often surprisingly
delicate and have been described as “eerie” and “oddly orchestral.”
All three are veterans of local experimental scenes and in addition
to their many solo and collaborative projects are all currently
members of improv ensemble Build To Suit.

10:30 . CAMERON/DAVISON . W.A.Davison is a multi-disciplinary
artist who has been producing various forms of experimental
art and music for over 30 years. As a composer, improvisor,
and instrument-builder Davison has performed solo (as Songs
of the New Erotics, Th W rbl r, M.Stactor, etc.), in his own
ensembles (Urban Refuse Group, Six Heads), and in various
collaborations (with members of CCMC, Nihilist Spasm Band,
AMM, MSBR, irr.app.(ext.), Nurse With Wound, and many
others). Allison Cameron performs improvised music and
creates sound environments using Casio SK sampling
keyboards/Casio saxophone/ukulele/banjo/Honeytone
amplifiers/radios/a desktop theremin/drum machine/crackle
box/cassette tapes/miscellaneous instruments & objects
amplified with a variety of contact mics/a variety of pedals
including: a homemade fuzz factory, envelope follower synth,
Digi-tech wah, and Holy Grail reverb/piano.
Cameron: http://www.soundcloud.com/allisoncameronmusic
Davison: http://www.recordism.com

. GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Stephen Lindsey and Eric Siegerman
will be busy working their arsenal of projectable light machines to
create vibrant techno colour light paintings.
http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca

. Thanks to Jeff Howard, we'll have the PiNG LiVE STREAM
flowing again at 9:00PM on Tuesday May 14th for
those of you who can't make it live and in person.
http://www.livestream.com/theambientping

. Don't forget to check out the rest of the Deep Wireless
performances this coming weekend on May 17 - 19.
For more info on Deep Wireless:
http://www.naisa.ca/deepwireless/Performances.html#DWP2

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

COMiNG SOON:

. Tuesday June 11th 2013 . PiNG.06.11.13
featuring SPACENOIZ + LORNE DAVID THOMSON
+ GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS
@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market
     just south of College . Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 9:00 . $6

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

---> FREE MP3 ALBUM --- "Three (Sixty)" by Panoramaroid <---
a new net-label release from ping things

ping things is pleased to release "Three (Sixty)" by Panoramaroid,
a beat oriented project from Matthew Poulakakis. Some of you
may remember Panoramaroid's "Music for Travellers #2"
released in 2008 by ping things, and those of you who are
familiar with it will be pleased to find that on this latest release
Matthew has returned with another collection of playful grooves
and chilled rhythms.

"Three (Sixty)" is available for free download from ping things as
a 92Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 320kbps
mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music
on this release is copyright 2013 Matthew Poulakakis (SOCAN)
and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's
express permission.

Download "Three (Sixty)" by Panoramaroid:
http://pingthings.blogspot.com/2013/04/three-sixty-by-panoramaroid.html

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Ambient CDs and DVDs are available at the ping things table
during Tuesday's show and online at: http://www.pingthings.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of
audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG
presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic,
soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo,
darkwave and experimental artists from around the world.
http://www.theambientping.com

The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates
and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events.
Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com

We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG.
http://www.facebook.com

ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things:
http://www.pingthings.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or
appropriate newsgroups. Thanks.

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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/130509.html
Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

Show #840 May 9, 2013.

WDIY Playlist:
http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=05-09-2013

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Radio Massacre
International.  The Featured CD at Midnight was "Planets in the Wires"
on Northern Echo.  This was changed at the last minute due to
technical difficulties.


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Paul Lawler          Opus                 OPUS (none)
Fanger & Schonwalder Cosmic (Pre Earshot  Earshot (Manikin)
                        Mix)
Sensitive Chaos      Neues Jahr, Alles    Amerisynthecana (Subsequent)
                        Klar
Chronotope Project   L'avenue du Ciel     Chrysalis (Relaxed Machinery)
Radio Massacre       Planets in the       Planets in the Waves (Northern
   International        Waves                Echo)


12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Radio Massacre       Echoes               Planets in the Waves (Northern
   International                             Echo)


1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Radio Massacre International.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk
two (East) from "Solid States" on Northern Echo.

WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-05-16

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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I've been using this product <http://www.midijet.com/>  for wireless MIDI
and it seems to work just fine. The only time I've had problems, they've
been solved by switching to a different channel, so I suspect those problems
have been due to other devices transmitting on the same channel.


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Hey all y'all loopers. Is it cool to post gigs here? I'm performing at 
Roulette (Brooklyn NY) this Thursday May 16. All looping all the time, 
using Mobius. Come check it out if you're in the area. xx

THURSDAY MAY 16, 8:30 PM
Amy X Neuburg / Sideband laptop ensemble
Roulette
509 Atlantic Ave., Brooklyn
Near the 2, 3, 4, 5, C, G, D, M, N, R, B & Q and LIRR
Admission $15 general, $10 members/students/seniors
Ticket link and more info at 
http://roulette.org/events/neuburg-sideband/

Join us on facebook at 
https://www.facebook.com/events/372141839563545/.

Neuburg and Sideband will each bring their individual repertoires that 
combine elements of live electronics, acoustic performance, and 
innovative controllers. They will also share the stage for Dan Truemanâ€™s 
â€œClapping Machine Music Variationsâ€ and a new vocal ensemble & laptops 
piece by Neuburg specifically created for this collaboration.

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Born of the Princeton Laptop Orchestra (PLOrk), SIDEBAND first came 
together as an ensemble for their Carnegie Hall premiere with the 
American Composers Orchestra and their collaborative concert at The 
Kitchen with So Percussion and Matmos. Using custom made hemispherical 
speakers and a fleet of laptops, Sideband turns each member of its 
ensemble in to an island of sound, returning a sense of acoustics and 
space to the normally flat world of electronic music.

Sideband's parent ensemble the Princeton Laptop Orchestra (PLOrk) -- 
the first ensemble of its size and kind -- has inspired the formation of 
laptop orchestras across the world, from Oslo to Dublin, Bangkok, Hong 
Kong and Stanford. PLOrk has been covered by the New York Times, Wired 
Magazine, NPR, The Guardian (UK), and many others. In 2008, PLOrk was 
awarded a major grant from the MacArthur Foundation.
http://sidebandband.com/

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AMY X NEUBURG (Oakland, CA) has been developing her own brand of 
irreverently genre-crossing works for voice, electronics and chamber 
ensembles for over 25 years. Best known for her innovative use of live 
looping technology with electronic percussion, her 4-octave vocal range 
and her colorful lyrics, Neuburg has performed at such diverse venues 
across the world as Other Minds, Bang on a Can, the Berlin Intl. Poetry 
Festival, the Wellington and Christchurch Jazz Festivals (NZ), and the 
Warsaw Philharmonic. Blah blah blah you know the rest commissions 
ensembles Europe Japan Robert Ashley grants prizes degrees.
http://www.amyxneuburg.com/


Hope to see you! Love and xx -- a

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I don't know if it's cool but I'm traveling to brooklyn from Montreal this w=
eek and I will sure try to go, now that I know. Thanks.

Hugues.=20

Le 2013-05-12 =C3=A0 22:57, Amy X Neuburg <amyx@isproductions.com> a =C3=A9c=
rit :

> Hey all y'all loopers. Is it cool to post gigs here? I'm performing at Rou=
lette (Brooklyn NY) this Thursday May 16. All looping all the time, using Mo=
bius. Come check it out if you're in the area. xx
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> THURSDAY MAY 16, 8:30 PM
> Amy X Neuburg / Sideband laptop ensemble
> Roulette
> 509 Atlantic Ave., Brooklyn
> Near the 2, 3, 4, 5, C, G, D, M, N, R, B & Q and LIRR
> Admission $15 general, $10 members/students/seniors
> Ticket link and more info at http://roulette.org/events/neuburg-sideband/
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> Join us on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/events/372141839563545/.
>=20
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bine elements of live electronics, acoustic performance, and innovative cont=
rollers. They will also share the stage for Dan Trueman=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CC=
lapping Machine Music Variations=E2=80=9D and a new vocal ensemble & laptops=
 piece by Neuburg specifically created for this collaboration.
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> Born of the Princeton Laptop Orchestra (PLOrk), SIDEBAND first came togeth=
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rs Orchestra and their collaborative concert at The Kitchen with So Percussi=
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ps, Sideband turns each member of its ensemble in to an island of sound, ret=
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ford. PLOrk has been covered by the New York Times, Wired Magazine, NPR, The=
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om the MacArthur Foundation.
> http://sidebandband.com/
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> AMY X NEUBURG (Oakland, CA) has been developing her own brand of irreveren=
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now the rest commissions ensembles Europe Japan Robert Ashley grants prizes d=
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> http://www.amyxneuburg.com/
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> Hope to see you! Love and xx -- a
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t if you're in the area. xx<br><br>THURSDAY MAY 16, 8:30 PM<br>Amy X Neubur=
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Thanks, Hughes! You can see I got the date wrong in the header -- it's 
May 16, Thursday. Brain-dead here...
xx

On 05/12/2013 9:09 pm, Hugues wrote:
> I don't know if it's cool but I'm traveling to brooklyn from Montreal
> this week and I will sure try to go, now that I know. Thanks.
> 
> Hugues.
> 
> Le 2013-05-12 Ã  22:57, Amy X Neuburg <amyx@isproductions.com> a Ã©crit 
> :
> 
>> Hey all y'all loopers. Is it cool to post gigs here? I'm performing 
>> at Roulette (Brooklyn NY) this Thursday May 16. All looping all the 
>> time, using Mobius. Come check it out if you're in the area. xx
>> 
>> THURSDAY MAY 16, 8:30 PM
>> Amy X Neuburg / Sideband laptop ensemble
>> Roulette
>> 509 Atlantic Ave., Brooklyn
>> Near the 2, 3, 4, 5, C, G, D, M, N, R, B & Q and LIRR
>> Admission $15 general, $10 members/students/seniors
>> Ticket link and more info at 
>> http://roulette.org/events/neuburg-sideband/
>> 
>> Join us on facebook at 
>> https://www.facebook.com/events/372141839563545/.
>> 
>> Neuburg and Sideband will each bring their individual repertoires 
>> that combine elements of live electronics, acoustic performance, and 
>> innovative controllers. They will also share the stage for Dan 
>> Truemanâ€™s â€œClapping Machine Music Variationsâ€ and a new vocal ensemble 
>> & laptops piece by Neuburg specifically created for this 
>> collaboration.
>> 
>> -----------
>> Born of the Princeton Laptop Orchestra (PLOrk), SIDEBAND first came 
>> together as an ensemble for their Carnegie Hall premiere with the 
>> American Composers Orchestra and their collaborative concert at The 
>> Kitchen with So Percussion and Matmos. Using custom made hemispherical 
>> speakers and a fleet of laptops, Sideband turns each member of its 
>> ensemble in to an island of sound, returning a sense of acoustics and 
>> space to the normally flat world of electronic music.
>> 
>> Sideband's parent ensemble the Princeton Laptop Orchestra (PLOrk) -- 
>> the first ensemble of its size and kind -- has inspired the formation 
>> of laptop orchestras across the world, from Oslo to Dublin, Bangkok, 
>> Hong Kong and Stanford. PLOrk has been covered by the New York Times, 
>> Wired Magazine, NPR, The Guardian (UK), and many others. In 2008, 
>> PLOrk was awarded a major grant from the MacArthur Foundation.
>> http://sidebandband.com/
>> 
>> -----------
>> AMY X NEUBURG (Oakland, CA) has been developing her own brand of 
>> irreverently genre-crossing works for voice, electronics and chamber 
>> ensembles for over 25 years. Best known for her innovative use of live 
>> looping technology with electronic percussion, her 4-octave vocal 
>> range and her colorful lyrics, Neuburg has performed at such diverse 
>> venues across the world as Other Minds, Bang on a Can, the Berlin 
>> Intl. Poetry Festival, the Wellington and Christchurch Jazz Festivals 
>> (NZ), and the Warsaw Philharmonic. Blah blah blah you know the rest 
>> commissions ensembles Europe Japan Robert Ashley grants prizes 
>> degrees.
>> http://www.amyxneuburg.com/
>> 
>> 
>> Hope to see you! Love and xx -- a
>> 
>> --
>> Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€
>> Amy X Neuburg
>> http://www.amyxneuburg.com
>> Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€
>> 

-- 
Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€
Amy X Neuburg
http://www.amyxneuburg.com
Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€

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I mean Hugues.
Brain-death continued.

On 05/12/2013 9:20 pm, Amy X Neuburg wrote:
> Thanks, Hughes! You can see I got the date wrong in the header --
> it's May 16, Thursday. Brain-dead here...
> xx
> 
> On 05/12/2013 9:09 pm, Hugues wrote:
>> I don't know if it's cool but I'm traveling to brooklyn from Montreal
>> this week and I will sure try to go, now that I know. Thanks.
>> Hugues.
>> Le 2013-05-12 Ã  22:57, Amy X Neuburg <amyx@isproductions.com> a Ã©crit 
>> :
>> 
>>> Hey all y'all loopers. Is it cool to post gigs here? I'm performing 
>>> at Roulette (Brooklyn NY) this Thursday May 16. All looping all the 
>>> time, using Mobius. Come check it out if you're in the area. xx
>>> THURSDAY MAY 16, 8:30 PM
>>> Amy X Neuburg / Sideband laptop ensemble
>>> Roulette
>>> 509 Atlantic Ave., Brooklyn
>>> Near the 2, 3, 4, 5, C, G, D, M, N, R, B & Q and LIRR
>>> Admission $15 general, $10 members/students/seniors
>>> Ticket link and more info at 
>>> http://roulette.org/events/neuburg-sideband/
>>> Join us on facebook at 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/372141839563545/.
>>> Neuburg and Sideband will each bring their individual repertoires 
>>> that combine elements of live electronics, acoustic performance, and 
>>> innovative controllers. They will also share the stage for Dan 
>>> Truemanâ€™s â€œClapping Machine Music Variationsâ€ and a new vocal 
>>> ensemble & laptops piece by Neuburg specifically created for this 
>>> collaboration.
>>> -----------
>>> Born of the Princeton Laptop Orchestra (PLOrk), SIDEBAND first came 
>>> together as an ensemble for their Carnegie Hall premiere with the 
>>> American Composers Orchestra and their collaborative concert at The 
>>> Kitchen with So Percussion and Matmos. Using custom made 
>>> hemispherical speakers and a fleet of laptops, Sideband turns each 
>>> member of its ensemble in to an island of sound, returning a sense of 
>>> acoustics and space to the normally flat world of electronic music.
>>> Sideband's parent ensemble the Princeton Laptop Orchestra (PLOrk) -- 
>>> the first ensemble of its size and kind -- has inspired the formation 
>>> of laptop orchestras across the world, from Oslo to Dublin, Bangkok, 
>>> Hong Kong and Stanford. PLOrk has been covered by the New York Times, 
>>> Wired Magazine, NPR, The Guardian (UK), and many others. In 2008, 
>>> PLOrk was awarded a major grant from the MacArthur Foundation.
>>> http://sidebandband.com/
>>> -----------
>>> AMY X NEUBURG (Oakland, CA) has been developing her own brand of 
>>> irreverently genre-crossing works for voice, electronics and chamber 
>>> ensembles for over 25 years. Best known for her innovative use of 
>>> live looping technology with electronic percussion, her 4-octave 
>>> vocal range and her colorful lyrics, Neuburg has performed at such 
>>> diverse venues across the world as Other Minds, Bang on a Can, the 
>>> Berlin Intl. Poetry Festival, the Wellington and Christchurch Jazz 
>>> Festivals (NZ), and the Warsaw Philharmonic. Blah blah blah you know 
>>> the rest commissions ensembles Europe Japan Robert Ashley grants 
>>> prizes degrees.
>>> http://www.amyxneuburg.com/
>>> 
>>> Hope to see you! Love and xx -- a
>>> --
>>> Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€
>>> Amy X Neuburg
>>> http://www.amyxneuburg.com
>>> Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€
>>> 

-- 
Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€Ï€
Amy X Neuburg
http://www.amyxneuburg.com
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Thanks Jeff his problem is precisely the problem I am having, so it's =
good to read that thread.

Not sure his solution will work for me, I'm not a Bidule guy, but in the =
words of Robert Palmer - I'm looking for clues :)

Hopefully will find some in there - thanks !

Phil :)



On May 11, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> =
wrote:

> Yes, it's possible, there's a guy on the Mobius forum that made a =
Bidule group to do something similar.
>=20
>     http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D8&t=3D5620
>=20
> I'm pretty sure someone made a Max/MSP patch but I can't find it right =
now.
>=20
> I had considered writing a little VST plugin to do the MIDI =
translation but lost interest in it
> after they fixed standalone mode. =20
>=20
> Jeff
> ________________________________________
> From: Philip Clevenger [phil.clevenger@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:02 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: SoftStep Nav Keys
>=20
> Well I'm part way there.. Using MIDI Pipe I've got the standalone CC
> messages translated to the desired Note... But in still getting loads =
of
> pressure data messages... So instead of a clean Note On / Note Off, =
I'm
> getting dozens of one or the other, with variable pressure values for =
each
> one.
>=20
> It's enough to make me believe its possible, and to indicate that at =
this
> point the challenge is in the MIDI translator, rather than the =
SoftStep.
>=20
> Phil
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On May 11, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Christoph Lehmann <krrrs@gmx.de> wrote:
>=20
>> Hey Phil,
>> When I got my SoftStep I wanted to use the navigation keys in the =
same
> way but abandoned the Idea, when i realized it's not possible by =
default. I
> never thought of hacking it, as I'm not very familiar with all the =
computer
> stuff. If you find way to do the trick, please let me know.
>>=20
>> Chris
>>=20
>>=20
>> Am 09.05.2013 um 08:17 schrieb Philip Clevenger:
>>=20
>>> Any SoftStep users here successfully hacked the Nav keys for your =
own
> evil purposes?
>>>=20
>>> SS is a promising lightweight portable foot controller but the =
gotcha
> (for me) is the relatively hard coded nature of the Nav keys.
>>>=20
>>> These keys ought to be perfect to use for next and previous loop
> commands across one axis, and next/previous layer or scene or =
whatever,
> across the other axis. Echoloop, EDP, Mobius style workflow.
>>>=20
>>> I've been messing with MIDI Pipe and MIDI Translator to try to =
convert
> SoftStep's output to simple Note On and Note Off messages, with only =
partial
> success=8A in Standalone mode with Scene Change set to OFF=8A so I'm =
getting CC
> messages 80, 81, 82, 83 from the SS nav keys=8A
>>>=20
>>> Any insights out there?
>>>=20
>>> Phil :)
>>=20
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Hugues wrote:
> I don't know if it's cool 

posting gig v.cool indeed.


re-posting large biog...not quite as cool for our friends who use the digest version
(some ancient mailing list alchemy where a bunch of posts are combined into one long one)


Please edit out unnecessary text when using 'reply'.

;-)

andy

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I confess! I dunnit. I think the one posted on that page link is a 
pretty old version. I'm constantly fiddling with it & making slight 
changes, but I'll post a 'latest' update to the plogue forum.

Of course you have to use Mob as a plug-in in plogue for it to work, 
but....  :)

I've also found that with the latest firmware, I don't get the raw CCs 
output, it defaults to a progchange scene. So I have to boot the 
bloatware first, set an 'INIT' state on the hardware, then shut down the 
KMI app & boot up plogue. Then it works. Tedious, but...I'm just 
investigating max/msp runtime to see if any of Tom Swirly's patches 
would help in this respect.

Apart from not taking 1GB+ of memory, this solution also gives me four 
functions for each pad - fiddly to use, but versatile.

Ah, just found a more up-to-date (more efficient?) version up there:

http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5733 - it's last one, 
'MonoController'

hth

Dave Draper


On 11/05/2013 17:31, Jeff Larson wrote:
> Yes, it's possible, there's a guy on the Mobius forum that made a Bidule group to do something similar.
>
>      http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=tV20
>
> I'm pretty sure someone made a Max/MSP patch but I can't find it right now.
>
> I had considered writing a little VST plugin to do the MIDI translation but lost interest in it
> after they fixed standalone mode.
>
> Jeff
> ________________________________________
> From: Philip Clevenger [phil.clevenger@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:02 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: SoftStep Nav Keys
>
> Well I'm part way there.. Using MIDI Pipe I've got the standalone CC
> messages translated to the desired Note... But in still getting loads of
> pressure data messages... So instead of a clean Note On / Note Off, I'm
> getting dozens of one or the other, with variable pressure values for each
> one.
>
> It's enough to make me believe its possible, and to indicate that at this
> point the challenge is in the MIDI translator, rather than the SoftStep.
>
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 11, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Christoph Lehmann <krrrs@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Hey Phil,
>> When I got my SoftStep I wanted to use the navigation keys in the same
> way but abandoned the Idea, when i realized it's not possible by default. I
> never thought of hacking it, as I'm not very familiar with all the computer
> stuff. If you find way to do the trick, please let me know.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Am 09.05.2013 um 08:17 schrieb Philip Clevenger:
>>
>>> Any SoftStep users here successfully hacked the Nav keys for your own
> evil purposes?
>>>
>>> SS is a promising lightweight portable foot controller but the gotcha
> (for me) is the relatively hard coded nature of the Nav keys.
>>>
>>> These keys ought to be perfect to use for next and previous loop
> commands across one axis, and next/previous layer or scene or whatever,
> across the other axis. Echoloop, EDP, Mobius style workflow.
>>>
>>> I've been messing with MIDI Pipe and MIDI Translator to try to convert
> SoftStep's output to simple Note On and Note Off messages, with only partial
> successŠ in Standalone mode with Scene Change set to OFFŠ so I'm getting CC
> messages 80, 81, 82, 83 from the SS nav keysŠ
>>>
>>> Any insights out there?
>>>
>>> Phil :)
>>
>
>
>
>

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Thanks for the tips, Andy, and pardon the massive verbiage.
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I'm also coming to NYC for the weekend (playing in Brooklyn on Sunday the
19th).  We're driving in that day and normally I'd be able to catch an 8:30
show, but we'll have our daughter with us and I don't think her car
endurance will allow us to drive non-stop...  I'm not quite sure when I'll
get into town, but if the timing is right I'll definitely show up.

One of my downers from the loopfest last year was that I had to setup while
you were playing, so my attention was divided (and I was on the wrong side
of the PA).

Sylvain

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Hey!  Who is trying to be me?!?=20

Michael (3x09)

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That IP address originates in Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation.    Some=
one is most likely trying to hack into the forum to post spam.  Let me know=
 if it continues.

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Hey!  Who is trying to be me?!?

Michael (3x09)

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Dear 090909,

Someone has tried to log into your account on Circular Labs Forums with an =
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tempting to login to your account for the next 15 minutes.

The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 18=
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Circular Labs Forums



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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, May 13, 2013 2:32 PM<=
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Fwd: Failed Login Notifica=
tion on Circular Labs Forums<br>
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o:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<=
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Hey! &nbsp;Who is trying to be me?!?&nbsp;
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michael (3x09)<br>
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;Circular Labs Forums&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:webmaster@circularlabs.co=
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3, 2013 11:40:03 AM PDT<br>
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incorrect password at least 5 times. This person has been prevented from at=
tempting to login to your account for the next 15 minutes.<br>
<br>
The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 18=
8.143.232.144<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
Circular Labs Forums<br>
<br>
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U got a crazy ex?  Or am I the only one

Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2013, at 1:52 PM, "Jeff Larson" <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote=
:

> That IP address originates in Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation.    Som=
eone is most likely trying to hack into the forum to post spam.  Let me know=
 if it continues.
>=20
> From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com>
> Reply-To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-d=
elight.com>
> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:32 PM
> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=
.com>
> Subject: Fwd: Failed Login Notification on Circular Labs Forums
> Resent-From: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com>
> Resent-Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:22 PM
>=20
> Hey!  Who is trying to be me?!?=20
>=20
> Michael (3x09)
>=20
> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
>> From: "Circular Labs Forums" <webmaster@circularlabs.com>
>> Date: May 13, 2013 11:40:03 AM PDT
>> To: 3x09@carlsonarts.com
>> Subject: Failed Login Notification on Circular Labs Forums
>>=20
>> Dear 090909,
>>=20
>> Someone has tried to log into your account on Circular Labs Forums with a=
n incorrect password at least 5 times. This person has been prevented from a=
ttempting to login to your account for the next 15 minutes.
>>=20
>> The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 1=
88.143.232.144
>>=20
>> All the best,
>> Circular Labs Forums
>>=20
>=20

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<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>U got a crazy ex? &nbsp;Or am I the only one<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 13, 2013, at 1:52 PM, "Jeff Larson" &lt;<a href="mailto:jeff.larson@sailpoint.com">jeff.larson@sailpoint.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<div>That IP address originates in Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation. &nbsp; &nbsp;Someone is most likely trying to hack into the forum to post spam. &nbsp;Let me know if it continues.</div>
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</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>TripleOhNine &lt;<a href="mailto:3x09@carlsonarts.com">3x09@carlsonarts.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, May 13, 2013 2:32 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Fwd: Failed Login Notification on Circular Labs Forums<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Resent-From: </span>"<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">
Hey! &nbsp;Who is trying to be me?!?&nbsp;
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michael (3x09)<br>
<div><br>
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</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Circular Labs Forums" &lt;<a href="mailto:webmaster@circularlabs.com">webmaster@circularlabs.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Date:
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<span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>To:
</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:3x09@carlsonarts.com">3x09@carlsonarts.com</a><br>
</span></div>
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</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Failed Login Notification on Circular Labs Forums</b><br>
</span></div>
<br>
<div>Dear 090909,<br>
<br>
Someone has tried to log into your account on Circular Labs Forums with an incorrect password at least 5 times. This person has been prevented from attempting to login to your account for the next 15 minutes.<br>
<br>
The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 188.143.232.144<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
Circular Labs Forums<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
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All my Ex's Live in Texas.

3x09

On May 13, 2013, at 1:39 PM, kelly maxwell wrote:

> U got a crazy ex?  Or am I the only one
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On May 13, 2013, at 1:52 PM, "Jeff Larson" <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>> That IP address originates in Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation.   =
 Someone is most likely trying to hack into the forum to post spam.  Let =
me know if it continues.
>>=20
>> From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com>
>> Reply-To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:32 PM
>> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Subject: Fwd: Failed Login Notification on Circular Labs Forums
>> Resent-From: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Resent-Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:22 PM
>>=20
>> Hey!  Who is trying to be me?!?=20
>>=20
>> Michael (3x09)
>>=20
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>=20
>>> From: "Circular Labs Forums" <webmaster@circularlabs.com>
>>> Date: May 13, 2013 11:40:03 AM PDT
>>> To: 3x09@carlsonarts.com
>>> Subject: Failed Login Notification on Circular Labs Forums
>>>=20
>>> Dear 090909,
>>>=20
>>> Someone has tried to log into your account on Circular Labs Forums =
with an incorrect password at least 5 times. This person has been =
prevented from attempting to login to your account for the next 15 =
minutes.
>>>=20
>>> The person trying to log into your account had the following IP =
address: 188.143.232.144
>>>=20
>>> All the best,
>>> Circular Labs Forums
>>>=20
>>=20


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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">All my Ex's Live in Texas.<div><br></div><div>3x09</div><div><br><div><div>On May 13, 2013, at 1:39 PM, kelly maxwell wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>U got a crazy ex? &nbsp;Or am I the only one<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 13, 2013, at 1:52 PM, "Jeff Larson" &lt;<a href="mailto:jeff.larson@sailpoint.com">jeff.larson@sailpoint.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>




<div>That IP address originates in Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation. &nbsp; &nbsp;Someone is most likely trying to hack into the forum to post spam. &nbsp;Let me know if it continues.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>TripleOhNine &lt;<a href="mailto:3x09@carlsonarts.com">3x09@carlsonarts.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, May 13, 2013 2:32 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Fwd: Failed Login Notification on Circular Labs Forums<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Resent-From: </span>"<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<div>
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">
Hey! &nbsp;Who is trying to be me?!?&nbsp;
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michael (3x09)<br>
<div><br>
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<span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>From:
</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Circular Labs Forums" &lt;<a href="mailto:webmaster@circularlabs.com">webmaster@circularlabs.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Date:
</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">May 13, 2013 11:40:03 AM PDT<br>
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<span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>To:
</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:3x09@carlsonarts.com">3x09@carlsonarts.com</a><br>
</span></div>
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<span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Subject:
</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Failed Login Notification on Circular Labs Forums</b><br>
</span></div>
<br>
<div>Dear 090909,<br>
<br>
Someone has tried to log into your account on Circular Labs Forums with an incorrect password at least 5 times. This person has been prevented from attempting to login to your account for the next 15 minutes.<br>
<br>
The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 188.143.232.144<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
Circular Labs Forums<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
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<<Finally, it's goodbye to my Softstep controller, bane of my life >>

Still a bane, since it's been replaced?

Phil :)


On May 13, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Dave Draper <dh.draper@virgin.net> wrote:

> I confess! I dunnit. I think the one posted on that page link is a =
pretty old version. I'm constantly fiddling with it & making slight =
changes, but I'll post a 'latest' update to the plogue forum.
>=20
> Of course you have to use Mob as a plug-in in plogue for it to work, =
but....  :)
>=20
> I've also found that with the latest firmware, I don't get the raw CCs =
output, it defaults to a progchange scene. So I have to boot the =
bloatware first, set an 'INIT' state on the hardware, then shut down the =
KMI app & boot up plogue. Then it works. Tedious, but...I'm just =
investigating max/msp runtime to see if any of Tom Swirly's patches =
would help in this respect.
>=20
> Apart from not taking 1GB+ of memory, this solution also gives me four =
functions for each pad - fiddly to use, but versatile.
>=20
> Ah, just found a more up-to-date (more efficient?) version up there:
>=20
> http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D8&t=3D5733 - it's last =
one, 'MonoController'
>=20
> hth
>=20
> Dave Draper
>=20
>=20
> On 11/05/2013 17:31, Jeff Larson wrote:
>> Yes, it's possible, there's a guy on the Mobius forum that made a =
Bidule group to do something similar.
>>=20
>>     http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3DtV20
>>=20
>> I'm pretty sure someone made a Max/MSP patch but I can't find it =
right now.
>>=20
>> I had considered writing a little VST plugin to do the MIDI =
translation but lost interest in it
>> after they fixed standalone mode.
>>=20
>> Jeff
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Philip Clevenger [phil.clevenger@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:02 AM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: Re: SoftStep Nav Keys
>>=20
>> Well I'm part way there.. Using MIDI Pipe I've got the standalone CC
>> messages translated to the desired Note... But in still getting loads =
of
>> pressure data messages... So instead of a clean Note On / Note Off, =
I'm
>> getting dozens of one or the other, with variable pressure values for =
each
>> one.
>>=20
>> It's enough to make me believe its possible, and to indicate that at =
this
>> point the challenge is in the MIDI translator, rather than the =
SoftStep.
>>=20
>> Phil
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>> On May 11, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Christoph Lehmann <krrrs@gmx.de> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hey Phil,
>>> When I got my SoftStep I wanted to use the navigation keys in the =
same
>> way but abandoned the Idea, when i realized it's not possible by =
default. I
>> never thought of hacking it, as I'm not very familiar with all the =
computer
>> stuff. If you find way to do the trick, please let me know.
>>>=20
>>> Chris
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Am 09.05.2013 um 08:17 schrieb Philip Clevenger:
>>>=20
>>>> Any SoftStep users here successfully hacked the Nav keys for your =
own
>> evil purposes?
>>>>=20
>>>> SS is a promising lightweight portable foot controller but the =
gotcha
>> (for me) is the relatively hard coded nature of the Nav keys.
>>>>=20
>>>> These keys ought to be perfect to use for next and previous loop
>> commands across one axis, and next/previous layer or scene or =
whatever,
>> across the other axis. Echoloop, EDP, Mobius style workflow.
>>>>=20
>>>> I've been messing with MIDI Pipe and MIDI Translator to try to =
convert
>> SoftStep's output to simple Note On and Note Off messages, with only =
partial
>> success=8A in Standalone mode with Scene Change set to OFF=8A so I'm =
getting CC
>> messages 80, 81, 82, 83 from the SS nav keys=8A
>>>>=20
>>>> Any insights out there?
>>>>=20
>>>> Phil :)
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>=20


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
">&lt;&lt;<span style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Lucida =
Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: 13px; line-height: 18.1875px; background-color: rgb(236, 243, =
247); ">Finally, it's goodbye to my Softstep controller, bane of my =
life&nbsp;&gt;&gt;</span><div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Lucida =
Grande, Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13px; line-height: =
18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Lucida=
 Grande, Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;">Still a bane, since it's =
been replaced?</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333" =
face=3D"Lucida Grande, Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size: 13px; line-height: =
18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Lucida=
 Grande, Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;">Phil =
:)</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Lucida =
Grande, Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13px; line-height: =
18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Lucida=
 Grande, Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13px; line-height: =
18px;"><br></span></font><div><div>On May 13, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Dave =
Draper &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dh.draper@virgin.net">dh.draper@virgin.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">I confess! I dunnit. I think the one posted on that page =
link is a pretty old version. I'm constantly fiddling with it &amp; =
making slight changes, but I'll post a 'latest' update to the plogue =
forum.<br><br>Of course you have to use Mob as a plug-in in plogue for =
it to work, but.... &nbsp;:)<br><br>I've also found that with the latest =
firmware, I don't get the raw CCs output, it defaults to a progchange =
scene. So I have to boot the bloatware first, set an 'INIT' state on the =
hardware, then shut down the KMI app &amp; boot up plogue. Then it =
works. Tedious, but...I'm just investigating max/msp runtime to see if =
any of Tom Swirly's patches would help in this respect.<br><br>Apart =
from not taking 1GB+ of memory, this solution also gives me four =
functions for each pad - fiddly to use, but versatile.<br><br>Ah, just =
found a more up-to-date (more efficient?) version up there:<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D8&amp;t=3D5733">htt=
p://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D8&amp;t=3D5733</a> - it's =
last one, 'MonoController'<br><br>hth<br><br>Dave Draper<br><br><br>On =
11/05/2013 17:31, Jeff Larson wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Yes, =
it's possible, there's a guy on the Mobius forum that made a Bidule =
group to do something similar.<br><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3DtV20">http://www.pl=
ogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3DtV20</a><br><br>I'm pretty sure =
someone made a Max/MSP patch but I can't find it right now.<br><br>I had =
considered writing a little VST plugin to do the MIDI translation but =
lost interest in it<br>after they fixed standalone =
mode.<br><br>Jeff<br>________________________________________<br>From: =
Philip Clevenger [<a =
href=3D"mailto:phil.clevenger@gmail.com">phil.clevenger@gmail.com</a>]<br>=
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:02 AM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>Subject: Re: SoftStep Nav Keys<br><br>Well I'm part =
way there.. Using MIDI Pipe I've got the standalone CC<br>messages =
translated to the desired Note... But in still getting loads =
of<br>pressure data messages... So instead of a clean Note On / Note =
Off, I'm<br>getting dozens of one or the other, with variable pressure =
values for each<br>one.<br><br>It's enough to make me believe its =
possible, and to indicate that at this<br>point the challenge is in the =
MIDI translator, rather than the SoftStep.<br><br>Phil<br><br>Sent from =
my iPhone<br><br>On May 11, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Christoph Lehmann &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:krrrs@gmx.de">krrrs@gmx.de</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hey Phil,<br>When I got my =
SoftStep I wanted to use the navigation keys in the =
same<br></blockquote>way but abandoned the Idea, when i realized it's =
not possible by default. I<br>never thought of hacking it, as I'm not =
very familiar with all the computer<br>stuff. If you find way to do the =
trick, please let me know.<br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br>Chris<br><br><br>Am 09.05.2013 um 08:17 schrieb Philip =
Clevenger:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Any SoftStep users here =
successfully hacked the Nav keys for your =
own<br></blockquote></blockquote>evil purposes?<br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>SS is a promising =
lightweight portable foot controller but the =
gotcha<br></blockquote></blockquote>(for me) is the relatively hard =
coded nature of the Nav keys.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br>These keys ought to be perfect to use for next and =
previous loop<br></blockquote></blockquote>commands across one axis, and =
next/previous layer or scene or whatever,<br>across the other axis. =
Echoloop, EDP, Mobius style workflow.<br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>I've been messing with MIDI =
Pipe and MIDI Translator to try to =
convert<br></blockquote></blockquote>SoftStep's output to simple Note On =
and Note Off messages, with only partial<br>success=8A in Standalone =
mode with Scene Change set to OFF=8A so I'm getting CC<br>messages 80, =
81, 82, 83 from the SS nav keys=8A<br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>Any insights out =
there?<br><br>Phil =
:)<br></blockquote><br></blockquote><br><br><br><br></blockquote><br></blo=
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I present to you my favorite guitar solo ever:

Talking Heads "Born Under Punches"
(Starts at 2:37)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcD1fHcGB0

Played by Adrian Belew. I've always guessed that it was done with
post-production tape splicing. Stan Card points out that it may have
been done in real time with the original EH 16 second delay. (Though
most likely, someone else was operating the pedal.)

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Mr. Eno did that using Belew as source.

there's something similar using voice on "The Catherine Wheel",
...but no varispeed.

andy

Matt Davignon wrote:
> I present to you my favorite guitar solo ever:
> 
> Talking Heads "Born Under Punches"
> (Starts at 2:37)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcD1fHcGB0
> 
> Played by Adrian Belew. I've always guessed that it was done with
> post-production tape splicing. Stan Card points out that it may have
> been done in real time with the original EH 16 second delay. (Though
> most likely, someone else was operating the pedal.)
> 

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The "looping" effect you're hearing was done  after the fact using a 
Lexicon  93 "Prime-Time" Delay,  which has only 256ms of delay time, 
but has a wide ranging "Delay  Multiply " switch (1x, 2x, 4x, and 
8x..!!!) and a continuous delay adjustment of 1x to 0.5x.
The effect you hear on that solo was done by  using the the "Repeat 
Hold" button to capture snippets of the solo and then using the 
Delay  Multiply  switch to create half, double, quarter or eighth 
time loops of the captured snippets.

There's one on Ebay right now..!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexicon-Prime-Time-Model-93-Digital-Delay-Includes-Manuals-/151042673487?pt=US_Signal_Processors_Rack_Effects&hash=item232ad84b4f


At 12:25 AM -0700 5/14/13, Matt Davignon wrote:
>I present to you my favorite guitar solo ever:
>
>Talking Heads "Born Under Punches"
>(Starts at 2:37)
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcD1fHcGB0
>
>Played by Adrian Belew. I've always guessed that it was done with
>post-production tape splicing. Stan Card points out that it may have
>been done in real time with the original EH 16 second delay. (Though
>most likely, someone else was operating the pedal.)
>
>--
>Matt Davignon
>mattdavignon@gmail.com
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>Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com


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Yes, "Red House" in "The Catherine Wheel". Also it's in the bonus
track "Very, Very Hungry" in the reissue of "My Life in the Bush of
Ghosts", again used with taped voice recordings.

Jonny Greenwood does something very similar in the Radiohead song "Go
To Sleep", but I think he used Max/MSP.

Thanks for the correction on the device.

-- 
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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:59 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Mr. Eno did that using Belew as source.
>
> there's something similar using voice on "The Catherine Wheel",
> ...but no varispeed.
>
> andy
>
>
> Matt Davignon wrote:
>>
>> I present to you my favorite guitar solo ever:
>>
>> Talking Heads "Born Under Punches"
>> (Starts at 2:37)
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcD1fHcGB0
>>
>> Played by Adrian Belew. I've always guessed that it was done with
>> post-production tape splicing. Stan Card points out that it may have
>> been done in real time with the original EH 16 second delay. (Though
>> most likely, someone else was operating the pedal.)
>>
>

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Selling my original 1990s BassStation keyboard. $350 US FIRM.

I love this sonuvabitch but truth is once I got my voyager RME I don't
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How does this laptop look guys?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F1JL5A/ref=mw_dp_mpd?pd=1&qid=1368610424&sr=8-2
On May 6, 2013 4:59 PM, "kay'lon rushing" <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep, windows only. Im not anti mac but the software i use is better on
> windows. I've pretty much decided im going with the lenovo u410 i7. It
> pretty much meets every requirement i've requested.
> On May 6, 2013 10:45 AM, "Todd Elliott" <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think that Mr. Rushing is used to Windows, and generally my advice for
>> 'laptop as a music tool' is 'go with what you know'. In general
>> light/ultrabooks are going to cost you more than a 'regular laptop', and
>> will probably have fewer USB/Whatever ports.
>>
>> T
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew Owens <rootpile@icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or
>>> other
>>> > issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty
>>> what
>>> > the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and
>>> money
>>> > were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?
>>>
>>> My belief is that for the reason of "replicating pretty what the
>>> Looperlative LP1 does" it doesn't matter if Apple, Dell or you
>>> yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is what audio
>>> interface you chose to use.
>>>
>>> The traditional reason for going with an Apple box is that they are
>>> produced in such a controlled way that you pretty much know what
>>> you're getting and if you need service the repair man has access to
>>> accurate documentation. Then there are of course some software that
>>> run better under Apple's OS but that is not the case here (as I
>>> imagine you'd like to run Mobius on it which works with Windows too).
>>>
>>> I personally like using Apple's computers because of the low downtime
>>> when switching machine. When I was using all kinds of Windows based
>>> machines I solved this workflow consistency issue by installing
>>> several identical boot partitions on several alternative drives so I
>>> could always reboot from another system clone if something should go
>>> wrong (and of course no internet or virus protection software in the
>>> audio system partition).
>>>
>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>
>>> Per Boysen
>>> www.perboysen.com
>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://toaster.bandcamp.com
>>
>

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<p>How does this laptop look guys? <br>
<a href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F1JL5A/ref=3Dmw_dp_mpd?pd=3D1&=
amp;qid=3D1368610424&amp;sr=3D8-2">http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F1JL5A=
/ref=3Dmw_dp_mpd?pd=3D1&amp;qid=3D1368610424&amp;sr=3D8-2</a></p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 6, 2013 4:59 PM, &quot;kay&#39;lon rushin=
g&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Yep, windows only. Im not anti mac but the software i use is better on w=
indows. I&#39;ve pretty much decided im going with the lenovo u410 i7. It p=
retty much meets every requirement i&#39;ve requested.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 6, 2013 10:45 AM, &quot;Todd Elliott&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:toddbert@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">toddbert@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I think that Mr. Rushing is used to Windows, and generally=
 my advice for &#39;laptop as a music tool&#39; is &#39;go with what you kn=
ow&#39;. In general light/ultrabooks are going to cost you more than a &#39=
;regular laptop&#39;, and will probably have fewer USB/Whatever ports.=A0<d=
iv>


<br></div><div>T<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>




<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew=
 Owens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rootpile@icloud.com" target=3D"_blank">rootpil=
e@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>





&gt; So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or oth=
er<br>
&gt; issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty=
 what<br>
&gt; the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, and =
money<br>
&gt; were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your suggestion?<br=
>
<br>
</div>My belief is that for the reason of &quot;replicating pretty what the=
<br>
Looperlative LP1 does&quot; it doesn&#39;t matter if Apple, Dell or you<br>
yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is what audio<br>
interface you chose to use.<br>
<br>
The traditional reason for going with an Apple box is that they are<br>
produced in such a controlled way that you pretty much know what<br>
you&#39;re getting and if you need service the repair man has access to<br>
accurate documentation. Then there are of course some software that<br>
run better under Apple&#39;s OS but that is not the case here (as I<br>
imagine you&#39;d like to run Mobius on it which works with Windows too).<b=
r>
<br>
I personally like using Apple&#39;s computers because of the low downtime<b=
r>
when switching machine. When I was using all kinds of Windows based<br>
machines I solved this workflow consistency issue by installing<br>
several identical boot partitions on several alternative drives so I<br>
could always reboot from another system clone if something should go<br>
wrong (and of course no internet or virus protection software in the<br>
audio system partition).<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/perboysen" target=3D"_blank">http://www.y=
outube.com/perboysen</a><br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <b=
r><a href=3D"http://toaster.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">http://toaster.=
bandcamp.com</a>
</div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>

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great solo indeed. Hasn't anyone written a VST emulation of that box?

> The "looping" effect you're hearing was done  after the fact using a
Lexicon  93 "Prime-Time" Delay

-Michael

 

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Pros: Asus makes a great laptop!
Cons: 5400rpm hard drive (as opposed to 7200), i5 Processor (as opposed =
to i7).

From: kay'lon rushing=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:35 AM
To: mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: In the market for a new laptop

How does this laptop look guys?=20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F1JL5A/ref=3Dmw_dp_mpd?pd=3D1&qid=3D136=
8610424&sr=3D8-2

On May 6, 2013 4:59 PM, "kay'lon rushing" <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

  Yep, windows only. Im not anti mac but the software i use is better on =
windows. I've pretty much decided im going with the lenovo u410 i7. It =
pretty much meets every requirement i've requested.

  On May 6, 2013 10:45 AM, "Todd Elliott" <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

    I think that Mr. Rushing is used to Windows, and generally my advice =
for 'laptop as a music tool' is 'go with what you know'. In general =
light/ultrabooks are going to cost you more than a 'regular laptop', and =
will probably have fewer USB/Whatever ports. =20

    T




    On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> =
wrote:

      On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew Owens =
<rootpile@icloud.com> wrote:
      > So is the lack of much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost =
or other
      > issues? If someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate =
pretty what
      > the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D =
converters, and money
      > were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be your =
suggestion?


      My belief is that for the reason of "replicating pretty what the
      Looperlative LP1 does" it doesn't matter if Apple, Dell or you
      yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is what audio
      interface you chose to use.

      The traditional reason for going with an Apple box is that they =
are
      produced in such a controlled way that you pretty much know what
      you're getting and if you need service the repair man has access =
to
      accurate documentation. Then there are of course some software =
that
      run better under Apple's OS but that is not the case here (as I
      imagine you'd like to run Mobius on it which works with Windows =
too).

      I personally like using Apple's computers because of the low =
downtime
      when switching machine. When I was using all kinds of Windows =
based
      machines I solved this workflow consistency issue by installing
      several identical boot partitions on several alternative drives so =
I
      could always reboot from another system clone if something should =
go
      wrong (and of course no internet or virus protection software in =
the
      audio system partition).

      Greetings from Sweden

      Per Boysen
      www.perboysen.com
      http://www.youtube.com/perboysen






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<DIV>Pros: Asus makes a great laptop!</DIV>
<DIV>Cons: 5400rpm hard drive (as opposed to 7200), i5 Processor (as =
opposed to=20
i7).</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; =
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dk3zz21@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com">kay'lon rushing</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:35 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">mailto:Loopers-Deligh=
t@loopers-delight.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: In the market for a new =
laptop</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
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COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; DISPLAY: =
inline">
<P>How does this laptop look guys? <BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F1JL5A/ref=3Dmw_dp_mpd?pd=3D1&a=
mp;qid=3D1368610424&amp;sr=3D8-2">http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009F1JL5=
A/ref=3Dmw_dp_mpd?pd=3D1&amp;qid=3D1368610424&amp;sr=3D8-2</A></P>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On May 6, 2013 4:59 PM, "kay'lon rushing" =
&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com">k3zz21@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR=20
type=3D"attribution">
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc =
1px solid">
  <P>Yep, windows only. Im not anti mac but the software i use is better =
on=20
  windows. I've pretty much decided im going with the lenovo u410 i7. It =
pretty=20
  much meets every requirement i've requested.</P>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On May 6, 2013 10:45 AM, "Todd Elliott" =
&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:toddbert@gmail.com" =
target=3D_blank>toddbert@gmail.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR type=3D"attribution">
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
#ccc 1px solid">
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>I think that Mr. Rushing is used to Windows, and =
generally my=20
    advice for 'laptop as a music tool' is 'go with what you know'. In =
general=20
    light/ultrabooks are going to cost you more than a 'regular laptop', =
and=20
    will probably have fewer USB/Whatever ports.&nbsp;=20
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>T<BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Per Boysen =
<SPAN=20
    dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>perboysen@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
#ccc 1px solid">
      <DIV>On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Andrrew Owens &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:rootpile@icloud.com"=20
      target=3D_blank>rootpile@icloud.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; So is =
the lack of=20
      much suggestions of Apple laptops due to cost or other<BR>&gt; =
issues? If=20
      someone just wanted to build a platform to replicate pretty =
what<BR>&gt;=20
      the Looperlative LP1 does, and if I had Steinberg A/D converters, =
and=20
      money<BR>&gt; were not particularly an issue, would the Apple be =
your=20
      suggestion?<BR><BR></DIV>My belief is that for the reason of =
"replicating=20
      pretty what the<BR>Looperlative LP1 does" it doesn't matter if =
Apple, Dell=20
      or you<BR>yourself put the pc together. A more important issue is =
what=20
      audio<BR>interface you chose to use.<BR><BR>The traditional reason =
for=20
      going with an Apple box is that they are<BR>produced in such a =
controlled=20
      way that you pretty much know what<BR>you're getting and if you =
need=20
      service the repair man has access to<BR>accurate documentation. =
Then there=20
      are of course some software that<BR>run better under Apple's OS =
but that=20
      is not the case here (as I<BR>imagine you'd like to run Mobius on =
it which=20
      works with Windows too).<BR><BR>I personally like using Apple's =
computers=20
      because of the low downtime<BR>when switching machine. When I was =
using=20
      all kinds of Windows based<BR>machines I solved this workflow =
consistency=20
      issue by installing<BR>several identical boot partitions on =
several=20
      alternative drives so I<BR>could always reboot from another system =
clone=20
      if something should go<BR>wrong (and of course no internet or =
virus=20
      protection software in the<BR>audio system =
partition).<BR><BR>Greetings=20
      from Sweden<BR><SPAN><FONT color=3D#888888><BR>Per Boysen<BR><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" =
target=3D_blank>www.perboysen.com</A><BR><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/perboysen"=20
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target=3D_blank>http://www.youtube.com/perboysen</A><BR><BR></FONT></SPAN=
></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR=20
    clear=3Dall>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>-- <BR><A href=3D"http://toaster.bandcamp.com"=20
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some of most favourite music!
*Steven***


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes, "Red House" in "The Catherine Wheel". Also it's in the bonus
> track "Very, Very Hungry" in the reissue of "My Life in the Bush of
> Ghosts", again used with taped voice recordings.
>
> Jonny Greenwood does something very similar in the Radiohead song "Go
> To Sleep", but I think he used Max/MSP.
>
> Thanks for the correction on the device.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> New bandcamp page: http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:59 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > Mr. Eno did that using Belew as source.
> >
> > there's something similar using voice on "The Catherine Wheel",
> > ...but no varispeed.
> >
> > andy
> >
> >
> > Matt Davignon wrote:
> >>
> >> I present to you my favorite guitar solo ever:
> >>
> >> Talking Heads "Born Under Punches"
> >> (Starts at 2:37)
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcD1fHcGB0
> >>
> >> Played by Adrian Belew. I've always guessed that it was done with
> >> post-production tape splicing. Stan Card points out that it may have
> >> been done in real time with the original EH 16 second delay. (Though
> >> most likely, someone else was operating the pedal.)
> >>
> >
>
>

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some of most favourite music!<br><div><div style=3D"text-align:left;font-fa=
mily:garamond,serif"> <b><font style=3D"color:rgb(255,153,0)" size=3D"1"><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51)"></span><span style=3D"font-family:comic s=
ans ms,sans-serif"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(51,51,51)">Steven</span></span></span></span></font></b><b><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span></b></div>

</div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Matt D=
avignon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
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Yes, &quot;Red House&quot; in &quot;The Catherine Wheel&quot;. Also it&#39;=
s in the bonus<br>
track &quot;Very, Very Hungry&quot; in the reissue of &quot;My Life in the =
Bush of<br>
Ghosts&quot;, again used with taped voice recordings.<br>
<br>
Jonny Greenwood does something very similar in the Radiohead song &quot;Go<=
br>
To Sleep&quot;, but I think he used Max/MSP.<br>
<br>
Thanks for the correction on the device.<br>
<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
--<br>
Matt Davignon<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>
New bandcamp page: <a href=3D"http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_=
blank">http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com</a><br>
Podcast! <a href=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:59=
 AM, andy butler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tis=
cali.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Mr. Eno did that using Belew as source.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; there&#39;s something similar using voice on &quot;The Catherine Wheel=
&quot;,<br>
&gt; ...but no varispeed.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; andy<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Matt Davignon wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I present to you my favorite guitar solo ever:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Talking Heads &quot;Born Under Punches&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt; (Starts at 2:37)<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DilcD1fHcGB0" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DilcD1fHcGB0</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Played by Adrian Belew. I&#39;ve always guessed that it was done w=
ith<br>
&gt;&gt; post-production tape splicing. Stan Card points out that it may ha=
ve<br>
&gt;&gt; been done in real time with the original EH 16 second delay. (Thou=
gh<br>
&gt;&gt; most likely, someone else was operating the pedal.)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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That album, Remain In Light, or at least side A, is in my top five desert
island discs.  Those three songs are just fantastic.

Kevin



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Steven Clements <sdclements@gmail.com>wrote:

> some of most favourite music!
> *Steven***
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yes, "Red House" in "The Catherine Wheel". Also it's in the bonus
>> track "Very, Very Hungry" in the reissue of "My Life in the Bush of
>> Ghosts", again used with taped voice recordings.
>>
>> Jonny Greenwood does something very similar in the Radiohead song "Go
>> To Sleep", but I think he used Max/MSP.
>>
>> Thanks for the correction on the device.
>>
>> --
>> Matt Davignon
>> mattdavignon@gmail.com
>> New bandcamp page: http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
>> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:59 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > Mr. Eno did that using Belew as source.
>> >
>> > there's something similar using voice on "The Catherine Wheel",
>> > ...but no varispeed.
>> >
>> > andy
>> >
>> >
>> > Matt Davignon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I present to you my favorite guitar solo ever:
>> >>
>> >> Talking Heads "Born Under Punches"
>> >> (Starts at 2:37)
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcD1fHcGB0
>> >>
>> >> Played by Adrian Belew. I've always guessed that it was done with
>> >> post-production tape splicing. Stan Card points out that it may have
>> >> been done in real time with the original EH 16 second delay. (Though
>> >> most likely, someone else was operating the pedal.)
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>


-- 
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<div dir=3D"ltr">That album, Remain In Light, or at least side A, is in my =
top five desert island discs. =A0Those three songs are just fantastic.<div>=
<br></div><div style>Kevin</div><div style><br></div></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Steven=
 Clements <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sdclements@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">sdclements@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
some of most favourite music!<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"=
><br><div><div style=3D"text-align:left;font-family:garamond,serif"> <b><fo=
nt style=3D"color:rgb(255,153,0)" size=3D"1"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51=
,51)"></span><span style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51)">Steven</s=
pan></span></span></span></font></b><b><span style></span></b></div>


</div></font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Matt D=
avignon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex">


Yes, &quot;Red House&quot; in &quot;The Catherine Wheel&quot;. Also it&#39;=
s in the bonus<br>
track &quot;Very, Very Hungry&quot; in the reissue of &quot;My Life in the =
Bush of<br>
Ghosts&quot;, again used with taped voice recordings.<br>
<br>
Jonny Greenwood does something very similar in the Radiohead song &quot;Go<=
br>
To Sleep&quot;, but I think he used Max/MSP.<br>
<br>
Thanks for the correction on the device.<br>
<div><br>
--<br>
Matt Davignon<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gm=
ail.com</a><br>
New bandcamp page: <a href=3D"http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_=
blank">http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com</a><br>
Podcast! <a href=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div><div>On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:59 AM, andy butler &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Mr. Eno did that using Belew as source.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; there&#39;s something similar using voice on &quot;The Catherine Wheel=
&quot;,<br>
&gt; ...but no varispeed.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; andy<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Matt Davignon wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I present to you my favorite guitar solo ever:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Talking Heads &quot;Born Under Punches&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt; (Starts at 2:37)<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DilcD1fHcGB0" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DilcD1fHcGB0</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Played by Adrian Belew. I&#39;ve always guessed that it was done w=
ith<br>
&gt;&gt; post-production tape splicing. Stan Card points out that it may ha=
ve<br>
&gt;&gt; been done in real time with the original EH 16 second delay. (Thou=
gh<br>
&gt;&gt; most likely, someone else was operating the pedal.)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>=
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<=
br>
<br>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br><br>
</div>

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Apropos of this thread.. it was David Byrn's birthday yesterday (14th 
of May) and it is Brian Eno's birthday today (15th of  May)...

Remain in Light...

CZ

At 12:01 PM +0200 5/15/13, Michael Peters wrote:
>great solo indeed. Hasn't anyone written a VST emulation of that box?
>
>>  The "looping" effect you're hearing was done  after the fact using a
>Lexicon  93 "Prime-Time" Delay
>
>-Michael
>
>


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...
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usually an exe... but I'm all appled up here :)
*Steven***


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Justin Higgins <zadillo@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a general rule of thumb, never click on weird looking links in emails
> like this - it's probably a good thing that file was removed as it was
> almost certainly something that would try to infect your computer with a
> virus of some sort.
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Steven Clements <sdclements@gmail.com>wrote:
>
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>> *Steven***
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>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:02 PM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
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I need an orchestral vst. I have to compose 3 orchestral pieces to get into
the music program at the university im going to in fall. Any
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<p>I need an orchestral vst. I have to compose 3 orchestral pieces to get into the music program at the university im going to in fall. Any recommendations of vsts or programs i can do this with for low cost?</p>

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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: rgb(0, 0, 0); FONT-SIZE: 12px"><div>Here's a free orchestral sfz format sample library http://sso.mattiaswestlund.net/index.html <br /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div style="border-top:1px solid #bcbcbc;margin:5px 0px;"></div><span style="font-size:12;font-family:arial;color:#000000;">On 05/15/13, <span>kay'lon rushing<k3zz21@gmail.<span class="misspelled">com&gt;</k3zz21@<span></span> wrote:</span><div>&nbsp;</div><div style="font-size:12;font-family:arial;color:#000000;"><p>I need an orchestral vst. I have to compose 3 orchestral pieces to get into the music program at the university im going to in fall. Any recommendations of vsts or programs i can do this with for low cost?</p></div></div>

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Do pcs still have a software General Midi Synth as standard?

Will appear as a midi device.

Would be usable, if not magical.

andy

kay'lon rushing wrote:
> I need an orchestral vst. I have to compose 3 orchestral pieces to get 
> into the music program at the university im going to in fall. Any 
> recommendations of vsts or programs i can do this with for low cost?
> 

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Hi andy,

Yes they do but the quality is really bad.
I would suggest to use at least something like 
http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth that can handle sf2 file.
and it's free.

Not sure it's what kay'lon is after.

Ben


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andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
(16/05/2013 21:54)

> 
> Do pcs still have a software General Midi Synth as standard?
> 
> Will appear as a midi device.
> 
> Would be usable, if not magical.
> 
> andy
> 
> kay'lon rushing wrote:
> > I need an orchestral vst. I have to compose 3 orchestral pieces to get 
> > into the music program at the university im going to in fall. Any 
> > recommendations of vsts or programs i can do this with for low cost?
> > 

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Hello loopers,
I'll be performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45
pm.  My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius.

info about the gig: http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605

about the meta-trombone:
http://no-insects.blogspot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone

what the meta-trombone sounds like:
http://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello loopers,=A0<div style>I&#39;ll be performing at Good=
bye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45 pm. =A0My set will feature =
my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius.</div><div style><br></div=
><div style>
info about the gig:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605">=
http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605</a></div><div style><br></div><div=
 style>about the meta-trombone:=A0<a href=3D"http://no-insects.blogspot.ca/=
search/label/meta-trombone">http://no-insects.blogspot.ca/search/label/meta=
-trombone</a></div>
<div style><br></div><div style>what the meta-trombone sounds like:=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"http://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1">http://=
sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1</a></div></div>

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Sylvain are you still doing a show at ABC NoRio?  i don't think I can make
it tomorrow night out to Bushwick but hope maybe you are doing one at Norio
maybe next Sunday.  If the case get in touch if you are here a few days.  I
think I sent you contacts but if not will.  Welcome to New York.

Jim


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.co=
m
> wrote:

> Hello loopers,
> I'll be performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45
> pm.  My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius=
.
>
> info about the gig: http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605
>
> about the meta-trombone:
> http://no-insects.blogspot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone
>
> what the meta-trombone sounds like:
> http://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1
>



--=20
--=20
*jimgoodin.com* <http://jimgoodin.com> - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance,
color blue, repetitive minimalism'

*The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music*<http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.co=
m> -
'Organically inspired New Music'

*From Brooklyn To Glindran <http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com>*, a
new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds from
this CD will benefit *JDRF International <http://jdrf.org>*

*Tips Across the
Waters<http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-waters/id474128076?mt=
=3D8>
*, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sylvain are you still doing a show at ABC NoRio? =A0i don&=
#39;t think I can make it tomorrow night out to Bushwick but hope maybe you=
 are doing one at Norio maybe next Sunday. =A0If the case get in touch if y=
ou are here a few days. =A0I think I sent you contacts but if not will. =A0=
Welcome to New York.<div>
<br></div><div>Jim</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Sylvain Poitras <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">sylvain.trombone@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello loopers,=A0<div>I&#39=
;ll be performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45 pm=
. =A0My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius.<=
/div>
<div><br></div><div>
info about the gig:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605</a></div><div><b=
r></div><div>about the meta-trombone:=A0<a href=3D"http://no-insects.blogsp=
ot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone" target=3D"_blank">http://no-insects.blogs=
pot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>what the meta-trombone sounds like:=A0<a href=3D"http:/=
/sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1</a></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>-- </di=
v><div><a href=3D"http://jimgoodin.com" target=3D"_blank"><em>jimgoodin.com=
</em></a> - &#39;Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima=
lism&#39;</div>
<div>=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.com" target=
=3D"_blank"><em>The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music</em></a>=A0- &#39;Org=
anically inspired New Music&#39;</div><div>=A0</div><div><em><a href=3D"htt=
p://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">From Brooklyn To Gl=
indran</a></em>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter =
Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit <em><a href=3D"http://jdrf.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">JDRF International</a></em></div>
<div><br><em><a href=3D"http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-wate=
rs/id474128076?mt=3D8" target=3D"_blank">Tips Across the Waters</a></em>, a=
 new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.</div>
</div>

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Shout out for this really cool event live now! http://www.moers-festival.de/

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Missed it, but listening to the Dafnis Prieto Proverb Trio right now
and really digging it. Thanks Jeff!

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Hey Jim,
ABC No Rio was cancelled, so I only have the one gig Sunday (leaving the
next day).
Sylvain


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>wrote=
:

> Sylvain are you still doing a show at ABC NoRio?  i don't think I can mak=
e
> it tomorrow night out to Bushwick but hope maybe you are doing one at Nor=
io
> maybe next Sunday.  If the case get in touch if you are here a few days. =
 I
> think I sent you contacts but if not will.  Welcome to New York.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Sylvain Poitras <
> sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello loopers,
>> I'll be performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:4=
5
>> pm.  My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobiu=
s.
>>
>> info about the gig: http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605
>>
>> about the meta-trombone:
>> http://no-insects.blogspot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone
>>
>> what the meta-trombone sounds like:
>> http://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *jimgoodin.com* <http://jimgoodin.com> - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance,
> color blue, repetitive minimalism'
>
> *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music*<http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.=
com> -
> 'Organically inspired New Music'
>
> *From Brooklyn To Glindran <http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com>*, a
> new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds fr=
om
> this CD will benefit *JDRF International <http://jdrf.org>*
>
> *Tips Across the Waters<http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-wa=
ters/id474128076?mt=3D8>
> *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Jim,=A0<div style>ABC No Rio was cancelled, so I only =
have the one gig Sunday (leaving the next day).</div><div style>Sylvain</di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sa=
t, May 18, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Jim Goodin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sylvain are you still doing=
 a show at ABC NoRio? =A0i don&#39;t think I can make it tomorrow night out=
 to Bushwick but hope maybe you are doing one at Norio maybe next Sunday. =
=A0If the case get in touch if you are here a few days. =A0I think I sent y=
ou contacts but if not will. =A0Welcome to New York.<div>

<br></div><div>Jim</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D=
"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Sy=
lvain Poitras <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">sylvain.trombone@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello loopers,=A0<div>I&#39=
;ll be performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45 pm=
. =A0My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius.<=
/div>

<div><br></div><div>
info about the gig:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605</a></div><div><b=
r></div><div>about the meta-trombone:=A0<a href=3D"http://no-insects.blogsp=
ot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone" target=3D"_blank">http://no-insects.blogs=
pot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone</a></div>


<div><br></div><div>what the meta-trombone sounds like:=A0<a href=3D"http:/=
/sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1</a></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><div>-- </div><div><a href=
=3D"http://jimgoodin.com" target=3D"_blank"><em>jimgoodin.com</em></a> - &#=
39;Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism&#39;</div=
>

<div>=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.com" target=
=3D"_blank"><em>The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music</em></a>=A0- &#39;Org=
anically inspired New Music&#39;</div><div>=A0</div><div><em><a href=3D"htt=
p://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">From Brooklyn To Gl=
indran</a></em>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter =
Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit <em><a href=3D"http://jdrf.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">JDRF International</a></em></div>

<div><br><em><a href=3D"http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-wate=
rs/id474128076?mt=3D8" target=3D"_blank">Tips Across the Waters</a></em>, a=
 new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.</div>
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Date: Sat=2C 18 May 2013 09:30:34 -0400
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NYC<br>From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello loopers=2C&nbsp=3B<div>I'll be perfor=
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div><br></div><div>=0A=
info about the gig:&nbsp=3B<a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618=
605" target=3D"_blank">http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605</a></div><d=
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Sylvain and all those who are not in the NY area or who can't be there I
just recalled that Goodbye Blue Monday streams all acts live to uStream.
 Go to the site this evening at http://www.goodbye-blue-monday.com/.  There
is a link/image to their webcam on the left so Sylvain your audience is
potentially the world :)

Jim


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM, David Grego <tubaczar98@hotmail.com> wrote=
:

> Yo Sylvain: Love what I have heard. I would be there but that is way past
> my bed time. Sorry to miss you. Hope to catch you in the future.
> ~David
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 09:30:34 -0400
> Subject: Gig Spam - NYC
> From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> Hello loopers,
> I'll be performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45
> pm.  My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius=
.
>
> info about the gig: http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605
>
> about the meta-trombone:
> http://no-insects.blogspot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone
>
> what the meta-trombone sounds like:
> http://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1
>



--=20
--=20
*jimgoodin.com* <http://jimgoodin.com> - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance,
color blue, repetitive minimalism'

*The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music*<http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.co=
m> -
'Organically inspired New Music'

*From Brooklyn To Glindran <http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com>*, a
new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds from
this CD will benefit *JDRF International <http://jdrf.org>*

*Tips Across the
Waters<http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-waters/id474128076?mt=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sylvain and all those who are not in the NY area or who ca=
n&#39;t be there I just recalled that Goodbye Blue Monday streams all acts =
live to uStream. =A0Go to the site this evening at=A0<a href=3D"http://www.=
goodbye-blue-monday.com/">http://www.goodbye-blue-monday.com/</a>. =A0There=
 is a link/image to their webcam on the left so Sylvain your audience is po=
tentially the world :)<div>
<br></div><div style>Jim</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM, David Grego <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tubaczar98@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
tubaczar98@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yo Sylvain: Love what I have heard. I would be there =
but that is way past my bed time. Sorry to miss you. Hope to catch you in t=
he future.<div>~David=A0<br><br><div><hr>Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 09:30:34 -0=
400<br>
Subject: Gig Spam - NYC<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">sylvain.trombone@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mail=
to:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@l=
oopers-delight.com</a><div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello loopers,=A0<div>I&#39;ll b=
e performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45 pm. =A0=
My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius.</div>=
<div>
<br></div><div>
info about the gig:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605</a></div><div><b=
r></div><div>about the meta-trombone:=A0<a href=3D"http://no-insects.blogsp=
ot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone" target=3D"_blank">http://no-insects.blogs=
pot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>what the meta-trombone sounds like:=A0<a href=3D"http:/=
/sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1</a></div></div>=
</div>
</div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>-- </di=
v><div><a href=3D"http://jimgoodin.com" target=3D"_blank"><em>jimgoodin.com=
</em></a> - &#39;Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima=
lism&#39;</div>
<div>=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.com" target=
=3D"_blank"><em>The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music</em></a>=A0- &#39;Org=
anically inspired New Music&#39;</div><div>=A0</div><div><em><a href=3D"htt=
p://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">From Brooklyn To Gl=
indran</a></em>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter =
Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit <em><a href=3D"http://jdrf.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">JDRF International</a></em></div>
<div><br><em><a href=3D"http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-wate=
rs/id474128076?mt=3D8" target=3D"_blank">Tips Across the Waters</a></em>, a=
 new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.</div>
</div>

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Hi all-

=C2=A0 I am likely going to be in South Carolina around July 11-13 and look=
ing for an opportunity to perform while I'm there. =C2=A0Does anyone have l=
eads on electronic-music/looping friendly venues? =C2=A0I already have a re=
quest out to Conundrum in Columbia, SC but no reply yet, and the contact fo=
r the New Music Collective in Charleston bounced. 

=C2=A0 Any tips would be appreciated. 

=C2=A0 Thanks!
=C2=A0 -Amar

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Thanks for listening David,
It was past my bedtime as well, but fun and relaxed atmosphere.  Loopers
coming through NYC should check it out.
Sylvain


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM, David Grego <tubaczar98@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yo Sylvain: Love what I have heard. I would be there but that is way past
> my bed time. Sorry to miss you. Hope to catch you in the future.
> ~David
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 09:30:34 -0400
> Subject: Gig Spam - NYC
> From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> Hello loopers,
> I'll be performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45
> pm.  My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius.
>
> info about the gig: http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605
>
> about the meta-trombone:
> http://no-insects.blogspot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone
>
> what the meta-trombone sounds like:
> http://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for listening David,=A0<div style>It was past my be=
dtime as well, but fun and relaxed atmosphere. =A0Loopers coming through NY=
C should check it out.</div><div style>Sylvain</div></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM, David G=
rego <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tubaczar98@hotmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">tubaczar98@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">



<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yo Sylvain: Love what I have heard. I would be there =
but that is way past my bed time. Sorry to miss you. Hope to catch you in t=
he future.<div>~David=A0<br><br><div><hr>Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 09:30:34 -0=
400<br>
Subject: Gig Spam - NYC<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">sylvain.trombone@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mail=
to:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@l=
oopers-delight.com</a><div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello loopers,=A0<div>I&#39;ll b=
e performing at Goodbye Blue Monday (Brooklyn) this Sunday at 11:45 pm. =A0=
My set will feature my meta-trombone, which relies heavily on Mobius.</div>=
<div>
<br></div><div>
info about the gig:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.reverbnation.com/show/9618605</a></div><div><b=
r></div><div>about the meta-trombone:=A0<a href=3D"http://no-insects.blogsp=
ot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone" target=3D"_blank">http://no-insects.blogs=
pot.ca/search/label/meta-trombone</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>what the meta-trombone sounds like:=A0<a href=3D"http:/=
/sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://sylvainpoitras.bandcamp.com/album/meta-trombone-vol-1</a></div></div>=
</div>
</div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>
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Anyone here have a Looper Construction Kit
that they do not use but would like to sell?
Looking forward to hearing about it!
Syn Thesis

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After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.

I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but not sure it's on the same
level as the rc50...

With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate phrases and it's
fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.

 Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable happens?

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Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and I came=
 straight from an RC50 as well.
It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward in a c=
ouple.
Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I upgraded b=
ut mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
~Brent
https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong

Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
Subject: might be that time
From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

After nearly 6 years=2C my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.

I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it=2C but not sure it's on the same l=
evel as the rc50...=0A=

With the Boss pedal=2C I love having the three separate phrases and it's fa=
irly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.=20
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g with the 50? Haven't used mine since I upgraded but mine is still going s=
trong. Wondering what one might expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</di=
v><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong"=
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I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I've
read about, I have little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I
don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.

My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time since
it's last been off and needs to be turned off and on for it to work. I just
reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm going to spend some more
time trying to figure out that issue. Plus, it's beginning to get noisy on
it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and there'll
be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or
take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this
thing and am dependent on it my band, 3dCosby.




On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor
<threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com>wrote:

> Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and I
> came straight from an RC50 as well.
>
> It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward in a
> couple.
>
> Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I upgraded
> but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
>
> ~Brent
>
> https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
> Subject: might be that time
> From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
>
> I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but not sure it's on the same
> level as the rc50...
>
> With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate phrases and it's
> fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.
>
>  Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable
> happens?
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I haven&#39;t had a chance to mess with the 300 yet, =
but from everything I&#39;ve read about, I have little interest. It seems t=
oo cluttered with effects I don&#39;t need and lacks the one I do -- revers=
e.=A0<br>
</div><div><br></div><div style>My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn=
 it on for the first time since it&#39;s last been off and needs to be turn=
ed off and on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that i=
ssue...I&#39;m going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issu=
e. Plus, it&#39;s beginning to get noisy on it&#39;s own (eg. I&#39;ll turn=
 the instrument volume down all the way and there&#39;ll be needless noise =
that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or take it out of my =
chain. Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this thing and am dependent=
 on it my band, 3dCosby.=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mo=
n, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">threeleggedyoyo@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It&#=
39;s what I use and I came straight from an RC50 as well.<div><br></div><di=
v>It&#39;s a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward =
in a couple.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what&#39;s fading with the 50? Haven&#39;t =
used mine since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what o=
ne might expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>
<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 20 Ma=
y 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</=
a><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div>After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs=
 of fading.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but=
 not sure it&#39;s on the same level as the rc50...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate p=
hrases and it&#39;s fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me=
.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0Any recommendations on a good replacement =
for when the inevitable happens? =A0<br>

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...I use the reverse on the RC-300. Did you need to control certain
parameters of the reverse feature?


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:

> I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I've
> read about, I have little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I
> don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.
>
> My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time since
> it's last been off and needs to be turned off and on for it to work. I just
> reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm going to spend some more
> time trying to figure out that issue. Plus, it's beginning to get noisy on
> it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and there'll
> be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or
> take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this
> thing and am dependent on it my band, 3dCosby.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and I
>> came straight from an RC50 as well.
>>
>> It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward in a
>> couple.
>>
>> Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I upgraded
>> but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
>>
>> ~Brent
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
>> Subject: might be that time
>> From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>>
>> After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
>>
>> I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but not sure it's on the same
>> level as the rc50...
>>
>> With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate phrases and it's
>> fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.
>>
>>  Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable
>> happens?
>>
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">...I use the reverse on the RC-300. Did you need to contro=
l certain parameters of the reverse feature?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, danie=
l <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=
=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I haven&#39;t had a ch=
ance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I&#39;ve read about, I h=
ave little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I don&#39;t need a=
nd lacks the one I do -- reverse.=A0<br>


</div><div><br></div><div>My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on=
 for the first time since it&#39;s last been off and needs to be turned off=
 and on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that issue..=
.I&#39;m going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issue. Plu=
s, it&#39;s beginning to get noisy on it&#39;s own (eg. I&#39;ll turn the i=
nstrument volume down all the way and there&#39;ll be needless noise that d=
isappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or take it out of my chain.=
 Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this thing and am dependent on it=
 my band, 3dCosby.=A0</div>

<div><div class=3D"h5">
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mo=
n, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">threeleggedyoyo@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It&#=
39;s what I use and I came straight from an RC50 as well.<div><br></div><di=
v>It&#39;s a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward =
in a couple.</div>


<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what&#39;s fading with the 50? Haven&#39;t =
used mine since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what o=
ne might expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>


<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 20 Ma=
y 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</=
a><br>


To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.<b=
r>


</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but=
 not sure it&#39;s on the same level as the rc50...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate p=
hrases and it&#39;s fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me=
.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0Any recommendations on a good replacement =
for when the inevitable happens? =A0<br>



</div></div></div></div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Jean-Paul De=
 Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com" target=3D"_blank">ww=
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there is reverse on the 300? i thought there wasn't. that's great! perhaps
then i'll look at it more seriously.

i'm thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover
<j.de.roover@gmail.com>wrote:

> ...I use the reverse on the RC-300. Did you need to control certain
> parameters of the reverse feature?
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:
>
>> I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I've
>> read about, I have little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I
>> don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.
>>
>> My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time
>> since it's last been off and needs to be turned off and on for it to work.
>> I just reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm going to spend some
>> more time trying to figure out that issue. Plus, it's beginning to get
>> noisy on it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and
>> there'll be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume
>> down or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove
>> this thing and am dependent on it my band, 3dCosby.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <
>> threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and I
>>> came straight from an RC50 as well.
>>>
>>> It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward in
>>> a couple.
>>>
>>> Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I
>>> upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
>>>
>>> ~Brent
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
>>> Subject: might be that time
>>> From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>
>>>
>>> After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
>>>
>>> I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but not sure it's on the same
>>> level as the rc50...
>>>
>>> With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate phrases and it's
>>> fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.
>>>
>>>  Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable
>>> happens?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jean-Paul De Roover
> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
> (807) 251-3376
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<div dir=3D"ltr">there is reverse on the 300? i thought there wasn&#39;t. t=
hat&#39;s great! perhaps then i&#39;ll look at it more seriously.=A0<div><b=
r></div><div>i&#39;m thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex</=
div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon,=
 May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">j.de.roover@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">...I use the reverse on the=
 RC-300. Did you need to control certain parameters of the reverse feature?=
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwet=
hink.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I haven&#39;t had a ch=
ance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I&#39;ve read about, I h=
ave little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I don&#39;t need a=
nd lacks the one I do -- reverse.=A0<br>



</div><div><br></div><div>My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on=
 for the first time since it&#39;s last been off and needs to be turned off=
 and on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that issue..=
.I&#39;m going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issue. Plu=
s, it&#39;s beginning to get noisy on it&#39;s own (eg. I&#39;ll turn the i=
nstrument volume down all the way and there&#39;ll be needless noise that d=
isappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or take it out of my chain.=
 Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this thing and am dependent on it=
 my band, 3dCosby.=A0</div>


<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mo=
n, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">threeleggedyoyo@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It&#=
39;s what I use and I came straight from an RC50 as well.<div><br></div><di=
v>It&#39;s a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward =
in a couple.</div>



<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what&#39;s fading with the 50? Haven&#39;t =
used mine since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what o=
ne might expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>



<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 20 Ma=
y 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</=
a><br>



To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.<b=
r>



</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but=
 not sure it&#39;s on the same level as the rc50...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate p=
hrases and it&#39;s fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me=
.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0Any recommendations on a good replacement =
for when the inevitable happens? =A0<br>




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Well the good news is that Reverse is NOT missing on the RC300. Some have f=
alsely reported that it is not there just because it no longer has the litt=
le light labeled "Reverse." But it is still there. I promise!
As for the effects=2C they're more useful than I thought they'd be=2C but t=
hey don't really get in the way of the thing. It's cool because you can use=
 them on a loop that's already been recorded=2C or on incoming sound... the=
 beat-synced effects are nice=2C especially delay=2C since the RC50 had dif=
ficulty being a master for those for some reason. I mostly end up using the=
 effect pedal for volume fades and such.
I have a detailed write-up on the pros and cons of each unit if you want me=
 to send it over. Don't get me wrong=2C it has some drawbacks compared to t=
he RC50=2C but for the most part it is a superior unit.
Of course there's nothing wrong with picking up another RC50 either. :D
~Brent
https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong

Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 15:04:28 -0400
Subject: Re: might be that time
From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet=2C but from everything I've=
 read about=2C I have little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects =
I don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.=20
=0A=

My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time since =
it's last been off and needs to be turned off and on for it to work. I just=
 reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm going to spend some more =
time trying to figure out that issue. Plus=2C it's beginning to get noisy o=
n it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and there'=
ll be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume down =
or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen=2C I fucking looove this=
 thing and am dependent on it my band=2C 3dCosby. =0A=




On Mon=2C May 20=2C 2013 at 2:55 PM=2C Brent Taylor <threeleggedyoyo@hotmai=
l.com> wrote:
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and I came=
 straight from an RC50 as well.
It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward in a c=
ouple.=0A=

Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I upgraded b=
ut mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
~Brent
=0A=
https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong

Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
Subject: might be that time
From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
=0A=
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

After nearly 6 years=2C my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
=0A=

I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it=2C but not sure it's on the same l=
evel as the rc50...=0A=

With the Boss pedal=2C I love having the three separate phrases and it's fa=
irly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.=20
 Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable happens?=
 =20
=0A=
=0A=
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>Well the good news is that Rever=
se is NOT missing on the RC300. Some have falsely reported that it is not t=
here just because it no longer has the little light labeled "Reverse." But =
it is still there. I promise!<div><br></div><div>As for the effects=2C they=
're more useful than I thought they'd be=2C but they don't really get in th=
e way of the thing. It's cool because you can use them on a loop that's alr=
eady been recorded=2C or on incoming sound... the beat-synced effects are n=
ice=2C especially delay=2C since the RC50 had difficulty being a master for=
 those for some reason. I mostly end up using the effect pedal for volume f=
ades and such.</div><div><br></div><div>I have a detailed write-up on the p=
ros and cons of each unit if you want me to send it over.&nbsp=3B<span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 12pt=3B">Don't get me wrong=2C it has some drawbacks compar=
ed to the RC50=2C but for the most part it is a superior unit.</span></div>=
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt=3B"><br></span></div><div><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt=3B">Of course there's nothing wrong with picking up ano=
ther RC50 either. :D</span></div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br><=
/div><div><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong">https://www=
.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date=
: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 15:04:28 -0400<br>Subject: Re: might be that time<br>F=
rom: daniel@ithinkwethink.org<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br=
><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet=
=2C but from everything I've read about=2C I have little interest. It seems=
 too cluttered with effects I don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.=
&nbsp=3B<br>=0A=
</div><div><br></div><div>My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on=
 for the first time since it's last been off and needs to be turned off and=
 on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm=
 going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issue. Plus=2C it'=
s beginning to get noisy on it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume d=
own all the way and there'll be needless noise that disappears when I turn =
the 50 master volume down or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happe=
n=2C I fucking looove this thing and am dependent on it my band=2C 3dCosby.=
&nbsp=3B</div>=0A=
<div class=3D"ecxgmail_extra"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote"=
>On Mon=2C May 20=2C 2013 at 2:55 PM=2C Brent Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
=3B<a href=3D"mailto:threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">threele=
ggedyoyo@hotmail.com</a>&gt=3B</span> wrote:<br>=0A=
<blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid=3B=
padding-left:1ex=3B">=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's=
 what I use and I came straight from an RC50 as well.<div><br></div><div>It=
's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward in a cou=
ple.</div>=0A=
<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used min=
e since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might=
 expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>=0A=
<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon=2C 20 =
May 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"=
mailto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org=
</a><br>=0A=
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div>After nearly 6 years=2C my rc50 is beginning to show sig=
ns of fading.<br>=0A=
</div><div><br></div><div>I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it=2C but n=
ot sure it's on the same level as the rc50...</div>=0A=
<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal=2C I love having the three separate=
 phrases and it's fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.&=
nbsp=3B</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp=3BAny recommendations on a good repl=
acement for when the inevitable happens? &nbsp=3B<br>=0A=
=0A=
</div></div></div></div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>=0A=
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I wasn't stoked about the 300 when I first upgraded from the 50 either, but
now I can't believe I was even doubting it!


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:

> there is reverse on the 300? i thought there wasn't. that's great! perhaps
> then i'll look at it more seriously.
>
> i'm thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <
> j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...I use the reverse on the RC-300. Did you need to control certain
>> parameters of the reverse feature?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything
>>> I've read about, I have little interest. It seems too cluttered with
>>> effects I don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.
>>>
>>> My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time
>>> since it's last been off and needs to be turned off and on for it to work.
>>> I just reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm going to spend some
>>> more time trying to figure out that issue. Plus, it's beginning to get
>>> noisy on it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and
>>> there'll be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume
>>> down or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove
>>> this thing and am dependent on it my band, 3dCosby.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <
>>> threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and I
>>>> came straight from an RC50 as well.
>>>>
>>>> It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward in
>>>> a couple.
>>>>
>>>> Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I
>>>> upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
>>>>
>>>> ~Brent
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
>>>> Subject: might be that time
>>>> From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
>>>>
>>>> I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but not sure it's on the same
>>>> level as the rc50...
>>>>
>>>> With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate phrases and it's
>>>> fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.
>>>>
>>>>  Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable
>>>> happens?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Paul De Roover
>> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
>> (807) 251-3376
>>
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">I wasn&#39;t stoked about the 300 when I first upgraded fr=
om the 50 either, but now I can&#39;t believe I was even doubting it!</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2=
0, 2013 at 3:11 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@i=
thinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">there is reverse on the 300=
? i thought there wasn&#39;t. that&#39;s great! perhaps then i&#39;ll look =
at it more seriously.=A0<div>

<br></div><div>i&#39;m thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex=
</div>
</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul=
 De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">j.de.roover@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">...I use the reverse on the=
 RC-300. Did you need to control certain parameters of the reverse feature?=
</div>


<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>




<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I haven&#39;t had a ch=
ance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I&#39;ve read about, I h=
ave little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I don&#39;t need a=
nd lacks the one I do -- reverse.=A0<br>





</div><div><br></div><div>My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on=
 for the first time since it&#39;s last been off and needs to be turned off=
 and on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that issue..=
.I&#39;m going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issue. Plu=
s, it&#39;s beginning to get noisy on it&#39;s own (eg. I&#39;ll turn the i=
nstrument volume down all the way and there&#39;ll be needless noise that d=
isappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or take it out of my chain.=
 Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this thing and am dependent on it=
 my band, 3dCosby.=A0</div>




<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mo=
n, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">threeleggedyoyo@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It&#=
39;s what I use and I came straight from an RC50 as well.<div><br></div><di=
v>It&#39;s a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward =
in a couple.</div>





<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what&#39;s fading with the 50? Haven&#39;t =
used mine since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what o=
ne might expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>





<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 20 Ma=
y 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</=
a><br>





To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.<b=
r>





</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but=
 not sure it&#39;s on the same level as the rc50...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate p=
hrases and it&#39;s fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me=
.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0Any recommendations on a good replacement =
for when the inevitable happens? =A0<br>






</div></div></div></div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><=
font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.=
jeanpaulderoover.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-3376" value=3D"+18072513376" target=3D"_blan=
k">(807) 251-3376</a>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com" target=
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cool, i'll definitely check it out, then :)




On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover
<j.de.roover@gmail.com>wrote:

> I wasn't stoked about the 300 when I first upgraded from the 50 either,
> but now I can't believe I was even doubting it!
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:
>
>> there is reverse on the 300? i thought there wasn't. that's great!
>> perhaps then i'll look at it more seriously.
>>
>> i'm thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <
>> j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...I use the reverse on the RC-300. Did you need to control certain
>>> parameters of the reverse feature?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything
>>>> I've read about, I have little interest. It seems too cluttered with
>>>> effects I don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.
>>>>
>>>> My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time
>>>> since it's last been off and needs to be turned off and on for it to work.
>>>> I just reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm going to spend some
>>>> more time trying to figure out that issue. Plus, it's beginning to get
>>>> noisy on it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and
>>>> there'll be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume
>>>> down or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove
>>>> this thing and am dependent on it my band, 3dCosby.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <
>>>> threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and I
>>>>> came straight from an RC50 as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward
>>>>> in a couple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I
>>>>> upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Brent
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
>>>>> Subject: might be that time
>>>>> From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
>>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but not sure it's on the
>>>>> same level as the rc50...
>>>>>
>>>>> With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate phrases and it's
>>>>> fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable
>>>>> happens?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Paul De Roover
>>> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
>>> (807) 251-3376
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jean-Paul De Roover
> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
> (807) 251-3376
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<div dir=3D"ltr">cool, i&#39;ll definitely check it out, then :)=A0<div><br=
></div><div style><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">j.de.roover@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I wasn&#39;t stoked about t=
he 300 when I first upgraded from the 50 either, but now I can&#39;t believ=
e I was even doubting it!</div>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, daniel <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">there is reverse on the 300=
? i thought there wasn&#39;t. that&#39;s great! perhaps then i&#39;ll look =
at it more seriously.=A0<div>


<br></div><div>i&#39;m thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex=
</div>
</div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">j.de.roover@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">...I use the reverse on the=
 RC-300. Did you need to control certain parameters of the reverse feature?=
</div>



<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I haven&#39;t had a ch=
ance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I&#39;ve read about, I h=
ave little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I don&#39;t need a=
nd lacks the one I do -- reverse.=A0<br>






</div><div><br></div><div>My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on=
 for the first time since it&#39;s last been off and needs to be turned off=
 and on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that issue..=
.I&#39;m going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issue. Plu=
s, it&#39;s beginning to get noisy on it&#39;s own (eg. I&#39;ll turn the i=
nstrument volume down all the way and there&#39;ll be needless noise that d=
isappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or take it out of my chain.=
 Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this thing and am dependent on it=
 my band, 3dCosby.=A0</div>





<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mo=
n, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">threeleggedyoyo@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>






<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It&#=
39;s what I use and I came straight from an RC50 as well.<div><br></div><di=
v>It&#39;s a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward =
in a couple.</div>






<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what&#39;s fading with the 50? Haven&#39;t =
used mine since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what o=
ne might expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>






<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 20 Ma=
y 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</=
a><br>






To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.<b=
r>






</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but=
 not sure it&#39;s on the same level as the rc50...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate p=
hrases and it&#39;s fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me=
.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0Any recommendations on a good replacement =
for when the inevitable happens? =A0<br>







</div></div></div></div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><=
font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.=
jeanpaulderoover.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-3376" value=3D"+18072513376" target=3D"_blan=
k">(807) 251-3376</a>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com" target=
=3D"_blank">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a><br><a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-=
3376" value=3D"+18072513376" target=3D"_blank">(807) 251-3376</a>
</div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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I'm curious to know what problems you were having with the 50 though. I had
to replace the sensors under the rec button about 4 times. I got Roland to
send me a 10 pack of sensors after the first 2. That and the occasional
"too busy" signal were about the only things that I had going wrong. The
300 gives me more grief. I'll load in some samples, they'll work fine for a
few days, and then suddenly 'Invalid File type'...


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:

> cool, i'll definitely check it out, then :)
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <
> j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wasn't stoked about the 300 when I first upgraded from the 50 either,
>> but now I can't believe I was even doubting it!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:
>>
>>> there is reverse on the 300? i thought there wasn't. that's great!
>>> perhaps then i'll look at it more seriously.
>>>
>>> i'm thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <
>>> j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...I use the reverse on the RC-300. Did you need to control certain
>>>> parameters of the reverse feature?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything
>>>>> I've read about, I have little interest. It seems too cluttered with
>>>>> effects I don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time
>>>>> since it's last been off and needs to be turned off and on for it to work.
>>>>> I just reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm going to spend some
>>>>> more time trying to figure out that issue. Plus, it's beginning to get
>>>>> noisy on it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and
>>>>> there'll be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume
>>>>> down or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove
>>>>> this thing and am dependent on it my band, 3dCosby.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <
>>>>> threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and
>>>>>> I came straight from an RC50 as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward
>>>>>> in a couple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I
>>>>>> upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Brent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: might be that time
>>>>>> From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
>>>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but not sure it's on the
>>>>>> same level as the rc50...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate phrases and
>>>>>> it's fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable
>>>>>> happens?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Paul De Roover
>>>> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
>>>> (807) 251-3376
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Paul De Roover
>> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
>> (807) 251-3376
>>
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m curious to know what problems you were having with=
 the 50 though. I had to replace the sensors under the rec button about 4 t=
imes. I got Roland to send me a 10 pack of sensors after the first 2. That =
and the occasional &quot;too busy&quot; signal were about the only things t=
hat I had going wrong. The 300 gives me more grief. I&#39;ll load in some s=
amples, they&#39;ll work fine for a few days, and then suddenly &#39;Invali=
d File type&#39;...</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2=
0, 2013 at 3:18 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@i=
thinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">cool, i&#39;ll definitely c=
heck it out, then :)=A0<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"HO=
EnZb">

<div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">j.de.roover=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I wasn&#39;t stoked about t=
he 300 when I first upgraded from the 50 either, but now I can&#39;t believ=
e I was even doubting it!</div>


<div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>




<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">there is reverse on the 300=
? i thought there wasn&#39;t. that&#39;s great! perhaps then i&#39;ll look =
at it more seriously.=A0<div>




<br></div><div>i&#39;m thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex=
</div>
</div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">j.de.roover@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">...I use the reverse on the=
 RC-300. Did you need to control certain parameters of the reverse feature?=
</div>





<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>







<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I haven&#39;t had a ch=
ance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I&#39;ve read about, I h=
ave little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I don&#39;t need a=
nd lacks the one I do -- reverse.=A0<br>








</div><div><br></div><div>My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on=
 for the first time since it&#39;s last been off and needs to be turned off=
 and on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that issue..=
.I&#39;m going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issue. Plu=
s, it&#39;s beginning to get noisy on it&#39;s own (eg. I&#39;ll turn the i=
nstrument volume down all the way and there&#39;ll be needless noise that d=
isappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or take it out of my chain.=
 Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this thing and am dependent on it=
 my band, 3dCosby.=A0</div>







<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mo=
n, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">threeleggedyoyo@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>








<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It&#=
39;s what I use and I came straight from an RC50 as well.<div><br></div><di=
v>It&#39;s a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward =
in a couple.</div>








<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what&#39;s fading with the 50? Haven&#39;t =
used mine since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what o=
ne might expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>








<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 20 Ma=
y 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</=
a><br>








To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.<b=
r>








</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but=
 not sure it&#39;s on the same level as the rc50...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate p=
hrases and it&#39;s fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me=
.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0Any recommendations on a good replacement =
for when the inevitable happens? =A0<br>









</div></div></div></div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><=
font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.=
jeanpaulderoover.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-3376" value=3D"+18072513376" target=3D"_blan=
k">(807) 251-3376</a>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com" target=
=3D"_blank">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a><br><a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-=
3376" value=3D"+18072513376" target=3D"_blank">(807) 251-3376</a>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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Oh wow, lame.

I've been having issues with general, basic sound, actually. Basically,
when I turn it on for the first time that day (or after a few hours rest),
my guitar will barely come through if at all and I'll have to shut down and
turn it back on and then it's fine. Also, it's gotten rather noisy. Not
abismal, yet, but it's noticeable. And it's clearly the rc50 because when I
turn the instrument volume down and it's just the machine outputting to my
amp, there's that wash of white noise. Again, it's not terrible, yet, but
it will be. Considering I've had this one as long as I have, I'm more
bummed then angry :)


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover
<j.de.roover@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm curious to know what problems you were having with the 50 though. I
> had to replace the sensors under the rec button about 4 times. I got Roland
> to send me a 10 pack of sensors after the first 2. That and the occasional
> "too busy" signal were about the only things that I had going wrong. The
> 300 gives me more grief. I'll load in some samples, they'll work fine for a
> few days, and then suddenly 'Invalid File type'...
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:
>
>> cool, i'll definitely check it out, then :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <
>> j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't stoked about the 300 when I first upgraded from the 50 either,
>>> but now I can't believe I was even doubting it!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> there is reverse on the 300? i thought there wasn't. that's great!
>>>> perhaps then i'll look at it more seriously.
>>>>
>>>> i'm thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <
>>>> j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...I use the reverse on the RC-300. Did you need to control certain
>>>>> parameters of the reverse feature?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't had a chance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything
>>>>>> I've read about, I have little interest. It seems too cluttered with
>>>>>> effects I don't need and lacks the one I do -- reverse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time
>>>>>> since it's last been off and needs to be turned off and on for it to work.
>>>>>> I just reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm going to spend some
>>>>>> more time trying to figure out that issue. Plus, it's beginning to get
>>>>>> noisy on it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and
>>>>>> there'll be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume
>>>>>> down or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove
>>>>>> this thing and am dependent on it my band, 3dCosby.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <
>>>>>> threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It's what I use and
>>>>>>> I came straight from an RC50 as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward
>>>>>>> in a couple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used mine since I
>>>>>>> upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might expect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Brent
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
>>>>>>> Subject: might be that time
>>>>>>> From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
>>>>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but not sure it's on the
>>>>>>> same level as the rc50...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate phrases and
>>>>>>> it's fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Any recommendations on a good replacement for when the inevitable
>>>>>>> happens?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Paul De Roover
>>>>> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
>>>>> (807) 251-3376
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Paul De Roover
>>> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
>>> (807) 251-3376
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jean-Paul De Roover
> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
> (807) 251-3376
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Oh wow, lame.=A0<div><br></div><div style>I&#39;ve been ha=
ving issues with general, basic sound, actually. Basically, when I turn it =
on for the first time that day (or after a few hours rest), my guitar will =
barely come through if at all and I&#39;ll have to shut down and turn it ba=
ck on and then it&#39;s fine. Also, it&#39;s gotten rather noisy. Not abism=
al, yet, but it&#39;s noticeable. And it&#39;s clearly the rc50 because whe=
n I turn the instrument volume down and it&#39;s just the machine outputtin=
g to my amp, there&#39;s that wash of white noise. Again, it&#39;s not terr=
ible, yet, but it will be. Considering I&#39;ve had this one as long as I h=
ave, I&#39;m more bummed then angry :)</div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon,=
 May 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">j.de.roover@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m curious to know wha=
t problems you were having with the 50 though. I had to replace the sensors=
 under the rec button about 4 times. I got Roland to send me a 10 pack of s=
ensors after the first 2. That and the occasional &quot;too busy&quot; sign=
al were about the only things that I had going wrong. The 300 gives me more=
 grief. I&#39;ll load in some samples, they&#39;ll work fine for a few days=
, and then suddenly &#39;Invalid File type&#39;...</div>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2=
0, 2013 at 3:18 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@i=
thinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">cool, i&#39;ll definitely c=
heck it out, then :)=A0<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>

<div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, =
May 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">j.de.roover@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I wasn&#39;t stoked about t=
he 300 when I first upgraded from the 50 either, but now I can&#39;t believ=
e I was even doubting it!</div>



<div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">there is reverse on the 300=
? i thought there wasn&#39;t. that&#39;s great! perhaps then i&#39;ll look =
at it more seriously.=A0<div>





<br></div><div>i&#39;m thinking of goin deep and picking up a midi-echoplex=
</div>
</div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">j.de.roover@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>






<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">...I use the reverse on the=
 RC-300. Did you need to control certain parameters of the reverse feature?=
</div>






<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>








<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I haven&#39;t had a ch=
ance to mess with the 300 yet, but from everything I&#39;ve read about, I h=
ave little interest. It seems too cluttered with effects I don&#39;t need a=
nd lacks the one I do -- reverse.=A0<br>









</div><div><br></div><div>My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on=
 for the first time since it&#39;s last been off and needs to be turned off=
 and on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that issue..=
.I&#39;m going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issue. Plu=
s, it&#39;s beginning to get noisy on it&#39;s own (eg. I&#39;ll turn the i=
nstrument volume down all the way and there&#39;ll be needless noise that d=
isappears when I turn the 50 master volume down or take it out of my chain.=
 Sad to see this happen, I fucking looove this thing and am dependent on it=
 my band, 3dCosby.=A0</div>








<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mo=
n, May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Brent Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:threeleggedyoyo@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">threeleggedyoyo@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>









<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well the RC300 is a pretty logical step forward. It&#=
39;s what I use and I came straight from an RC50 as well.<div><br></div><di=
v>It&#39;s a big step forward in most ways although a slight step backward =
in a couple.</div>









<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what&#39;s fading with the 50? Haven&#39;t =
used mine since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what o=
ne might expect.</div><div><br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>









<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a><br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 20 Ma=
y 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</=
a><br>









To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>After nearly 6 years, my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.<b=
r>









</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve messed with the EH 45000 and dug it, but=
 not sure it&#39;s on the same level as the rc50...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal, I love having the three separate p=
hrases and it&#39;s fairly toe-twiddling compatable which is crucial for me=
.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0Any recommendations on a good replacement =
for when the inevitable happens? =A0<br>










</div></div></div></div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><=
font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.=
jeanpaulderoover.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-3376" value=3D"+18072513376" target=3D"_blan=
k">(807) 251-3376</a>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com" target=
=3D"_blank">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a><br><a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-=
3376" value=3D"+18072513376" target=3D"_blank">(807) 251-3376</a>
</div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com" target=
=3D"_blank">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a><br><a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-=
3376" value=3D"+18072513376" target=3D"_blank">(807) 251-3376</a>
</div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Here's that write-up I did. I break down the differences=2C pros=2C and con=
s between the RC50 and RC300 in some serious detail. Feel free to ask if yo=
u still have questions.
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3D7269.0

~Brent
https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong


From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 15:25:38 -0400
Subject: Re: might be that time
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I'm curious to know what problems you were having with the 50 though. I had=
 to replace the sensors under the rec button about 4 times. I got Roland to=
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oo busy" signal were about the only things that I had going wrong. The 300 =
gives me more grief. I'll load in some samples=2C they'll work fine for a f=
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My 50 has been lacking in sound when I turn it on for the first time since =
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time trying to figure out that issue. Plus=2C it's beginning to get noisy o=
n it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume down all the way and there'=
ll be needless noise that disappears when I turn the 50 master volume down =
or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happen=2C I fucking looove this=
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Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 14:52:45 -0400
Subject: might be that time
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After nearly 6 years=2C my rc50 is beginning to show signs of fading.
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'><div>Here's that write-up I did.=
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0 in some serious detail. Feel free to ask if you still have questions.</di=
v><div><br></div><a href=3D"http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topi=
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r><br><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.=
com/ScienceGoneWrong" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/ScienceGon=
eWrong</a><br></div><br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: j.de.roover@=
gmail.com<br>Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 15:25:38 -0400<br>Subject: Re: might =
be that time<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">I'm curious to know what problems you were having with the 50 though. =
I had to replace the sensors under the rec button about 4 times. I got Rola=
nd to send me a 10 pack of sensors after the first 2. That and the occasion=
al "too busy" signal were about the only things that I had going wrong. The=
 300 gives me more grief. I'll load in some samples=2C they'll work fine fo=
r a few days=2C and then suddenly 'Invalid File type'...</div>=0A=
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=2C May 20=2C 2013 at 3:18 PM=2C daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"=
mailto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org" target=3D"_blank">daniel@ithinkwethink.org=
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padding-left:1ex=3B"><div dir=3D"ltr">cool=2C i'll definitely check it out=
=2C then :)&nbsp=3B<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"ecxHOE=
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ail_quote">On Mon=2C May 20=2C 2013 at 3:15 PM=2C Jean-Paul De Roover <span=
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k">j.de.roover@gmail.com</a>&gt=3B</span> wrote:<br>=0A=
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first upgraded from the 50 either=2C but now I can't believe I was even dou=
bting it!</div>=0A=
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e">On Mon=2C May 20=2C 2013 at 3:11 PM=2C daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a=
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t there wasn't. that's great! perhaps then i'll look at it more seriously.&=
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ir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
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ith the 300 yet=2C but from everything I've read about=2C I have little int=
erest. It seems too cluttered with effects I don't need and lacks the one I=
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 for the first time since it's last been off and needs to be turned off and=
 on for it to work. I just reformatted it and it still had that issue...I'm=
 going to spend some more time trying to figure out that issue. Plus=2C it'=
s beginning to get noisy on it's own (eg. I'll turn the instrument volume d=
own all the way and there'll be needless noise that disappears when I turn =
the 50 master volume down or take it out of my chain. Sad to see this happe=
n=2C I fucking looove this thing and am dependent on it my band=2C 3dCosby.=
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<div><br></div><div>Might I ask what's fading with the 50? Haven't used min=
e since I upgraded but mine is still going strong. Wondering what one might=
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May 2013 14:52:45 -0400<br>Subject: might be that time<br>From: <a href=3D"=
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<div><br></div><div>With the Boss pedal=2C I love having the three separate=
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My two cents as someone who went from the 50 to the 300. It takes a =
little getting used to, but I find the loops themselves to be much =
cleaner, and dare I say sonically improved? If you're using it with a =
group you may have found like me that the sub out is very useful for =
sending at loop only signal to your drummer or percussionist which the =
300 still has.

I don't even mess with the effects, and they've never gotten in the way. =
I do really enjoy the expression pedal for volume. I am pretty right =
foot dominant when it comes to looping starts and stops, so I found that =
I still am more comfortable using an auxiliary foot switch to trigger =
the "all stop/all start" function even though there is a dedicated pedal =
for that on the unit. I think you can program that to do something else, =
like maybe clear the loops?

The one thing I haven't spent alot of time on that I used to do with the =
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two cents as someone who went from the 50 to the 300. It takes a little =
getting used to, but I find the loops themselves to be much cleaner, and =
dare I say sonically improved? If you're using it with a group you may =
have found like me that the sub out is very useful for sending at loop =
only signal to your drummer or percussionist which the 300 still =
has.<div><br></div><div>I don't even mess with the effects, and they've =
never gotten in the way. I do really enjoy the expression pedal for =
volume. I am pretty right foot dominant when it comes to looping starts =
and stops, so I found that I still am more comfortable using an =
auxiliary foot switch to trigger the "all stop/all start" function even =
though there is a dedicated pedal for that on the unit. I think you can =
program that to do something else, like maybe clear the =
loops?</div><div><br></div><div>The one thing I haven't spent alot of =
time on that I used to do with the 50 was to set up a second track to =
start recording and sync with a first track...<i>after </i>&nbsp;I had =
used the all stop. I'm guessing there's a way to do =
it.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that's =
helpful,</div><div>John</div></body></html>=

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You can't reprogram the All Start / Stop button=2C which is stupid. I don't=
 know why they didn't allow for this=2C but they didn't. You can reprogram =
the FX button if you want=2C though. And the Assign system allows you to ov=
erload programmable buttons so that a single button can do more than one th=
ing with a single press. It's much easier to do that than it was on the 50.
I made this tutorial about the Assignments btw.=20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrDfYEcpo_hs
There is probably a way to set up the function you mention=2C John. Startin=
g or stopping a track is one of the sources for triggering assignments. I'v=
e found their behavior to be kind of confusing though. But that's another s=
tory.
~Brent
www.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong

From: john@johnfloridis.com
Subject: Re: might be that time
Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 13:34:19 -0600
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

My two cents as someone who went from the 50 to the 300. It takes a little =
getting used to=2C but I find the loops themselves to be much cleaner=2C an=
d dare I say sonically improved? If you're using it with a group you may ha=
ve found like me that the sub out is very useful for sending at loop only s=
ignal to your drummer or percussionist which the 300 still has.
I don't even mess with the effects=2C and they've never gotten in the way. =
I do really enjoy the expression pedal for volume. I am pretty right foot d=
ominant when it comes to looping starts and stops=2C so I found that I stil=
l am more comfortable using an auxiliary foot switch to trigger the "all st=
op/all start" function even though there is a dedicated pedal for that on t=
he unit. I think you can program that to do something else=2C like maybe cl=
ear the loops?
The one thing I haven't spent alot of time on that I used to do with the 50=
 was to set up a second track to start recording and sync with a first trac=
k...after  I had used the all stop. I'm guessing there's a way to do it.
Hope that's helpful=2CJohn 		 	   		  =

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t / Stop button=2C which is stupid. I don't know why they didn't allow for =
this=2C but they didn't. You can reprogram the FX button if you want=2C tho=
ugh. And the Assign system allows you to overload programmable buttons so t=
hat a single button can do more than one thing with a single press. It's mu=
ch easier to do that than it was on the 50.<div><br></div><div>I made this =
tutorial about the Assignments btw.&nbsp=3B</div><div><br></div><div><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrDfYEcpo_hs">http://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?v=3DrDfYEcpo_hs</a></div><div><br></div><div>There is probably a way t=
o set up the function you mention=2C John. Starting or stopping a track is =
one of the sources for triggering assignments. I've found their behavior to=
 be kind of confusing though. But that's another story.</div><div><br></div=
><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>w<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/=
ScienceGoneWrong">ww.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a></div><div><br></div>=
<div><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: john@johnfloridis.com<br>Subjec=
t: Re: might be that time<br>Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 13:34:19 -0600<br>To:=
 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><br>My two cents as someone who wen=
t from the 50 to the 300. It takes a little getting used to=2C but I find t=
he loops themselves to be much cleaner=2C and dare I say sonically improved=
? If you're using it with a group you may have found like me that the sub o=
ut is very useful for sending at loop only signal to your drummer or percus=
sionist which the 300 still has.<div><br></div><div>I don't even mess with =
the effects=2C and they've never gotten in the way. I do really enjoy the e=
xpression pedal for volume. I am pretty right foot dominant when it comes t=
o looping starts and stops=2C so I found that I still am more comfortable u=
sing an auxiliary foot switch to trigger the "all stop/all start" function =
even though there is a dedicated pedal for that on the unit. I think you ca=
n program that to do something else=2C like maybe clear the loops?</div><di=
v><br></div><div>The one thing I haven't spent alot of time on that I used =
to do with the 50 was to set up a second track to start recording and sync =
with a first track...<i>after </i>&nbsp=3BI had used the all stop. I'm gues=
sing there's a way to do it.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that's helpful=
=2C</div><div>John</div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></body>
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Thank you Brett, I appreciate the work you've done on this. It's nice to =
have communication with someone who's using this unit presently. I'm in =
Montana, and there aren't a lot of folks using looping in live =
performance..... well truth be told there are a lot of folks folks out =
here period, LOL

John=

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No problem John. Us loopers have to stick together. :D
I've spent stupid amounts of time figuring out the idiosyncrasies of these =
units and especially comparing the two. There's still a lot I don't know bu=
t I'm happy to be around for anybody with questions. It's nice to be helpfu=
l. It doesn't hurt that I do technical documentation for a living either=2C=
 so I'm not too bad at it. Apparently it's some unavoidable part of my make=
up to analyze things and then explain them.=20
Needless to say=2C my wife is one of the most patient people on the planet.=
 =3B)
~Brent
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> Subject: Re: might be that time
> From: john@johnfloridis.com
> Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 13:44:16 -0600
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> Thank you Brett=2C I appreciate the work you've done on this. It's nice t=
o have communication with someone who's using this unit presently. I'm in M=
ontana=2C and there aren't a lot of folks using looping in live performance=
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> John
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>No problem John. Us loopers have=
 to stick together. :D<div><br></div><div>I've spent stupid amounts of time=
 figuring out the idiosyncrasies of these units and especially comparing th=
e two. There's still a lot I don't know but I'm happy to be around for anyb=
ody with questions. It's nice to be helpful. It doesn't hurt that I do tech=
nical documentation for a living either=2C so I'm not too bad at it. Appare=
ntly it's some unavoidable part of my makeup to analyze things and then exp=
lain them.&nbsp=3B</div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt=3B"><br></span>=
</div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt=3B">Needless to say=2C my wife is=
 one of the most patient people on the planet. =3B)</span></div><div><div><=
br></div><div>~Brent</div><div><br></div><div>w<a href=3D"https://www.faceb=
ook.com/ScienceGoneWrong">ww.facebook.com/ScienceGoneWrong</a></div><div><b=
r></div><br><div>&gt=3B Subject: Re: might be that time<br>&gt=3B From: joh=
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Brett=2C I appreciate the work you've done on this. It's nice to have commu=
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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Ronald Perkins <rondex@att.net> wrote:
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>                           Ron Perkins
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Who are you talking to? We are several hundreds of people receiving
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Hi Ron,=0A=0AAs per your request, I've contacted your internet service prov=
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Though it may not be mentioned on the site , http://www.uniongrovemusic.com/ 
, the store I work at part time, has a mint condition RC-50 in stock,  
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Though it may not be mentioned on the site ,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.uniongrovemusic.com/">http://www.uniongrovemusic.com/</a>, the store I work at part time, has a mint condition RC-50 in stock, I know for a fact it has little play as the guy who traded it in had owned the RC 20, upgraded to the RC 50 and barely got in to it before deciding it was too much looper for his needs and shelved it until recently when he traded it for an RC20XL. It looks unused and works perfectly. &nbsp;I'll find out what the owner wants for it if anyone is interested. &nbsp;Contact me off list please.<div>&nbsp;Bill</div></body></html>
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Though it may not be mentioned on this site , http://www.uniongrovemusic.com/ 
, the store I work at part time, has a mint condition RC-50 in stock,  
I know for a fact it has little play as the guy who traded it in had  
owned the RC 20, upgraded to the RC 50 and barely got in to it before  
deciding it was too much looper for his needs and shelved it until  
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Though it may not be mentioned on this site ,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.uniongrovemusic.com/">http://www.uniongrovemusic.com/</a>, the store I work at part time, has a mint condition RC-50 in stock, I know for a fact it has little play as the guy who traded it in had owned the RC 20, upgraded to the RC 50 and barely got in to it before deciding it was too much looper for his needs and shelved it until recently when he traded it for an RC20XL. It looks unused and works perfectly. &nbsp;I'll find out what the owner wants for it if anyone is interested. &nbsp;Contact me off list please.<div>&nbsp;Bill</div></body></html>
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Ronald Perkins: =BFincrease your unsuscribe?


2013/5/20 Ronald Perkins <rondex@att.net>

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I'm not exactly sure either haha. I've never used orchestral plugins.



On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Hi andy,
>
> Yes they do but the quality is really bad.
> I would suggest to use at least something like
> http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth that can handle sf2
> file.
> and it's free.
>
> Not sure it's what kay'lon is after.
>
> Ben
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> (16/05/2013 21:54)
>
> >
> > Do pcs still have a software General Midi Synth as standard?
> >
> > Will appear as a midi device.
> >
> > Would be usable, if not magical.
> >
> > andy
> >
> > kay'lon rushing wrote:
> > > I need an orchestral vst. I have to compose 3 orchestral pieces to get
> > > into the music program at the university im going to in fall. Any
> > > recommendations of vsts or programs i can do this with for low cost?
> > >
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m not exactly sure either haha. I&#39;ve never used =
orchestral plugins.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Ben <span dir=3D"ltr">=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi andy,<br>
<br>
Yes they do but the quality is really bad.<br>
I would suggest to use at least something like<br>
<a href=3D"http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth</a> that can handl=
e sf2 file.<br>
and it&#39;s free.<br>
<br>
Not sure it&#39;s what kay&#39;lon is after.<br>
<br>
Ben<br>
<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------------------<br>
andy butler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.=
co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
(16/05/2013 21:54)<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Do pcs still have a software General Midi Synth as standard?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Will appear as a midi device.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Would be usable, if not magical.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; andy<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; kay&#39;lon rushing wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; I need an orchestral vst. I have to compose 3 orchestral pieces t=
o get<br>
&gt; &gt; into the music program at the university im going to in fall. Any=
<br>
&gt; &gt; recommendations of vsts or programs i can do this with for low co=
st?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
<br>
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I was enjoying to play with a ditto looper since March,=20
but despite me only using this every once in a while,=20
the reliability of the built-in footswitch is now decreasing every day.
(Yes, my shoes are clean and Ditto stored in it's box ;)

Does any of you have similar experiences with this device (or other TC =
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This is super helpful, thanks!!




On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:36 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>wrote:

> Though it may not be mentioned on this site ,
> http://www.uniongrovemusic.com/, the store I work at part time, has a
> mint condition RC-50 in stock, I know for a fact it has little play as the
> guy who traded it in had owned the RC 20, upgraded to the RC 50 and barely
> got in to it before deciding it was too much looper for his needs and
> shelved it until recently when he traded it for an RC20XL. It looks unused
> and works perfectly.  I'll find out what the owner wants for it if anyone
> is interested.  Contact me off list please.
>  Bill
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This is super helpful, thanks!!=A0<div><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon,=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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ic.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.uniongrovemusic.com/</a>, the store I=
 work at part time, has a mint condition RC-50 in stock, I know for a fact =
it has little play as the guy who traded it in had owned the RC 20, upgrade=
d to the RC 50 and barely got in to it before deciding it was too much loop=
er for his needs and shelved it until recently when he traded it for an RC2=
0XL. It looks unused and works perfectly. =A0I&#39;ll find out what the own=
er wants for it if anyone is interested. =A0Contact me off list please.<div=
>

=A0Bill</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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I cant help you with venues Amar, but would appreciate it if you could add
anything you find to my index of looping friendly venues!
http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/about/looping-venues/

The google docs spreadsheet seems to have been attacked by spammer
recently, I have deleted these but they dont seem to be showing up in the
webpage widgit yet...

good luck with your shows!

Mark


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Amar Chaudhary <amar@ptank.com> wrote:

> Hi all-
>
>   I am likely going to be in South Carolina around July 11-13 and looking
> for an opportunity to perform while I'm there.  Does anyone have leads on
> electronic-music/looping friendly venues?  I already have a request out to
> Conundrum in Columbia, SC but no reply yet, and the contact for the New
> Music Collective in Charleston bounced.
>
>   Any tips would be appreciated.
>
>   Thanks!
>   -Amar
>
> _________________________
> Amar Chaudhary
> http://www.amarchaudhary.com
> amar@ptank.com
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">I cant help you with venues Amar, but would appreciate it =
if you could add anything you find to my index of looping friendly venues!<=
div><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/about/looping-venues/=
">http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/about/looping-venues/</a><br>

</div><div><br></div><div style>The google docs spreadsheet seems to have b=
een attacked by spammer recently, I have deleted these but they dont seem t=
o be showing up in the webpage widgit yet...<br><br>good luck with your sho=
ws!</div>

<div style><br></div><div style>Mark</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Amar Ch=
audhary <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:amar@ptank.com" target=3D"_=
blank">amar@ptank.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all-<br>
<br>
=A0 I am likely going to be in South Carolina around July 11-13 and looking=
 for an opportunity to perform while I&#39;m there. =A0Does anyone have lea=
ds on electronic-music/looping friendly venues? =A0I already have a request=
 out to Conundrum in Columbia, SC but no reply yet, and the contact for the=
 New Music Collective in Charleston bounced.<br>


<br>
=A0 Any tips would be appreciated.<br>
<br>
=A0 Thanks!<br>
=A0 -Amar<br>
<br>
_________________________<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">Amar Chaudhary<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.amarchaudhary.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.amarc=
haudhary.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"mailto:amar@ptank.com">amar@ptank.com</a><br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <b=
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51)">

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=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)"=
><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_b=
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i don't have this pedal, nor was i interested when i heard it was coming out
(digitech has one too now). but when i heard this one-button pedal, i figured
that at some this would be the issue. i guess i like control over parameters,
and just being able to turn something on/off, to me, isn't enough
control, especially
when you talk looping. but that's me. it would concern me that a pedal
you've had
since march is already having switch problems, maybe it's a faulty switch...

good luck!
s----




I was enjoying to play with a ditto looper since March,
but despite me only using this every once in a while,
the reliability of the built-in footswitch is now decreasing every day.
(Yes, my shoes are clean and Ditto stored in it's box ;)

Does any of you have similar experiences with this device (or other TC
Electronic pedals)?

Thanx for any insights,

jayrope
---kliklak.netaircushionfinish.comprinzenallee.com

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><pre>i don&#39;t have this pedal, nor was i interested whe=
n i heard it was coming out <br>(digitech has one too now). but when i hear=
d this one-button pedal, i figured<br>that at some this would be the issue.=
 i guess i like control over parameters,<br>
and just being able to turn something on/off, to me, isn&#39;t enough contr=
ol, especially<br>when you talk looping. but that&#39;s me. it would concer=
n me that a pedal you&#39;ve had<br>since march is already having switch pr=
oblems, maybe it&#39;s a faulty switch...<br>
</pre><pre>good luck!<br>s----<br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br><br>I was e=
njoying to play with a ditto looper since March,=20
but despite me only using this every once in a while,=20
the reliability of the built-in footswitch is now decreasing every day.
(Yes, my shoes are clean and Ditto stored in it&#39;s box ;)

Does any of you have similar experiences with this device (or other TC=20
Electronic pedals)?

Thanx for any insights,

jayrope
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I'm often disappointed by the poor build quality of this kind of thing
these days.  I have fx pedals from the 70's and 80's that are STILL
working  just fine and I was not known for being clean and/or careful with
them.  That includes some very cheap Arion pedals made of molded plastic.

Shame on TC.


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:

> i don't have this pedal, nor was i interested when i heard it was coming out
> (digitech has one too now). but when i heard this one-button pedal, i figured
> that at some this would be the issue. i guess i like control over parameters,
>
> and just being able to turn something on/off, to me, isn't enough control, especially
> when you talk looping. but that's me. it would concern me that a pedal you've had
> since march is already having switch problems, maybe it's a faulty switch...
>
> good luck!
> s----
>
>
>
>
> I was enjoying to play with a ditto looper since March,
> but despite me only using this every once in a while,
> the reliability of the built-in footswitch is now decreasing every day.
> (Yes, my shoes are clean and Ditto stored in it's box ;)
>
> Does any of you have similar experiences with this device (or other TC
> Electronic pedals)?
>
> Thanx for any insights,
>
> jayrope
> ---kliklak.netaircushionfinish.comprinzenallee.com
>
>


-- 
-==-=-=-
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m often disappointed by the poor build quality of th=
is kind of thing these days.=A0 I have fx pedals from the 70&#39;s and 80&#=
39;s that are STILL working=A0 just fine and I was not known for being clea=
n and/or careful with them.=A0 That includes some very cheap Arion pedals m=
ade of molded plastic.=A0 <br>
<br>Shame on TC.<br><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Scott Hansen <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:evanpeewee@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">evanpeewee@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><pre>i don&#39;t have this =
pedal, nor was i interested when i heard it was coming out <br>(digitech ha=
s one too now). but when i heard this one-button pedal, i figured<br>
that at some this would be the issue. i guess i like control over parameter=
s,<br>
and just being able to turn something on/off, to me, isn&#39;t enough contr=
ol, especially<br>when you talk looping. but that&#39;s me. it would concer=
n me that a pedal you&#39;ve had<br>since march is already having switch pr=
oblems, maybe it&#39;s a faulty switch...<br>

</pre><pre>good luck!<br>s----<br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br><br>I was e=
njoying to play with a ditto looper since March,=20
but despite me only using this every once in a while,=20
the reliability of the built-in footswitch is now decreasing every day.
(Yes, my shoes are clean and Ditto stored in it&#39;s box ;)

Does any of you have similar experiences with this device (or other TC=20
Electronic pedals)?

Thanx for any insights,

jayrope
---
<a href=3D"http://kliklak.net" target=3D"_blank">kliklak.net</a>
<a href=3D"http://aircushionfinish.com" target=3D"_blank">aircushionfinish.=
com</a>
<a href=3D"http://prinzenallee.com" target=3D"_blank">prinzenallee.com</a><=
/pre></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- <br>To=
ny
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY
http://galactictravels.info

Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the 
month-long Special Focus on @Radio Massacre International.  The Featured 
CD at Midnight will be "Lost in Transit 5" on Northern Echo Recordings.  
The Special Focus page is at 
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#may

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that 
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 
93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and 
Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM.  
Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

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THOUGHT RADIO
http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio

My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, 
will be Saturday, May 25 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4.  In Phase One, I will 
continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs.

I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show 
features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an 
eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock.

Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at 
http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html

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New experimental noise electro-acoustic improv track

https://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/rp-collier-eloine-puddletown

if anyone is in the mood for such a thing.

regards

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Sorry about this OT post.

I'm searching for an acoustic guitar with a very wide fretboard, i.e. wider 
than that of a classical guitar.

It's going to be modded into a 7-stringer with La Bella nylon-coated steel 
strings, so a trussrod will be required.

It's not for playing classical per se, but will be used for a variety of 
styles, like semi-classical/jazz/latin...

I was thinking of an older used Höffner 12-stringer, but I'm not sure those 
were wide enough..


If I can't locate one with a truss, I'll replace the fretboard and add a 
souble action truss, so truss or not isn't make or break.

I cannot pay for one of the existing 7/8-string classicals, which BTW doesn't 
feature a truss; neigher can I pay for a custom build.

While I may have buy what's available, but will prefer an instrument that's 
been on the market log enough to available used, especially as I will very 
likely need to do some mods on it ;)


-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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Well it's time-consuming for sure, but check out what I bin spending the 
time doing ......

http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6620

...for a modularised, more configurable, & consistent version. I still 
have to boot up the KMI blatware to reduce the unit to putting out raw 
CCs, then shut down the KMI software & fire up bidule though.  :(

Dave

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> Still a bane, since it's been replaced?
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> Phil :)
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>

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I recently picked up a Vox VDL1, it is unusable due to very high level of background noise that occurs as soon as strings are touched (quite literally, just tapping on muted strings creates a noise sound once the level goes above some threshold). Needless to say, it is unusable as a looping device.

Has anyone else encountered noise problems with the VDL1? Any fixes?

Thanks,
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Hi Eric,

I expect a faulty unit.
...but it's a weird fault 

With such a short description it's not 100% certain.

Could just be the preset you're using.

Just to be 100% sure, try hitting the upper right footswitch a few times
to change preset. 

Problem still there? 

What if every preset is programmed by some evil previous owner?

Hold upper left and right switches down until the fx on the input turns off.


Problem still there?

Try with different psu, 9V center negative (like Boss/EH)

Problem still there?

back to the seller with it then

andy




E Gross wrote:
> I recently picked up a Vox VDL1, it is unusable due to very high level 
> of background noise that occurs as soon as strings are touched (quite 
> literally, just tapping on muted strings creates a noise sound once the 
> level goes above some threshold). Needless to say, it is unusable as a 
> looping device.
> 
> Has anyone else encountered noise problems with the VDL1? Any fixes?
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric
> 

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http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2013/130525.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html

Show #249 May 25, 2013.

Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Steve Roach          An Omnipresent       Future Flows (Projekt)
                        Sense Prevails
VA [Patrick Kosmos]  Modification         Sequences No. 23
VA [Spaceman C]      It's About Time      Sequences No. 23
hmph                 (excerpt)            session (none)
Radio Massacre       The Loneliness of    Solid States (Northern Echo)
   International        the Long Distance
                        Drummer


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Ludovico Einaudi     Newton's Cradle      In A Time Lapse (Ponderosa)
Al Conti             Minstrel's Song      The Blue Rose (Shadowside)
VA [Shambu]          Hide and Seek        The Gathering (West River)
VA [Kori Linae       Carpe Diem           The Gathering (West River)
   Carothers]
Trine Opsahl         Ripples in Water     Somewhere in a Hidden Memory
                                             (Heart to Heart)


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Spock's Beard        Waiting for Me       Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless
                                             Sleep (InsideOut)
Transatlantic        Stranger In Your     Bridge Across Forever
                        Soul                 (InsideOut)
Alan Morse           Cold Fusion *        Four O'clock and Hysteria
                                             (InsideOut)


  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill Fox
========================================================================
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Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
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On 5/24/2013 9:14 PM, ditch wrestler wrote:
Looking for general opinions and experiences on websites & promotion...

I would guess that people looking for you would be somewhat split as to 
whether they will be url snobs or not.  The advantage to having your own 
domain comes, I think, in the fact that your email addresses look more 
legit with your own domain than a gmail or hotmail, etc., domain.

I have done websites where I wrote the code using HTML only, and others 
where I used PHP so I could more easily have page templates.  I have 
found that using WordPress lets me more easily create new pages and even 
edit old ones.  But there is a learning curve and you have to make some 
basic decisions, such as (a) do you want to have a blog? (b) will you 
have separate pages for the individual members? (c) will you be hosting 
music or videos on your website? (d) will you be highlighting past 
accomplishments/projects on separate pages? - these are a few of the 
typical questions.  Picking up a book on WordPress is invaluable if 
that's the method you go with.

So my recommendation would be to buy a domain name (be careful of the 
hucksters out there), buy a book on WordPress, and install WordPress on 
your host, be it a freebie host or a (preferred if you have the budget) 
paid host.  You can also get a WordPress page hosted by WordPress.

Here are a few sites I've done for reference.  These are in no way 
representative of all the cool things you can do with a website, just 
some basic stuff:

www.coldbiscuitband.com
www.soaringspider.com
www.synthespider.com

Obviously you would use tools like Facebook and YouTube to round out 
your promotional campaign.

dw


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    <font face="Arial">On 5/24/2013 9:14 PM, ditch wrestler wrote:<br>
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        general opinions and experiences on websites &amp; promotion...<br>
        <br>
      </span>I would guess that people looking for you would be somewhat
      split as to whether they will be url snobs or not.&nbsp; The advantage
      to having your own domain comes, I think, in the fact that your
      email addresses look more legit with your own domain than a gmail
      or hotmail, etc., domain.<br>
      <br>
      I have done websites where I wrote the code using HTML only, and
      others where I used PHP so I could more easily have page
      templates.&nbsp; I have found that using WordPress lets me more easily
      create new pages and even edit old ones.&nbsp; But there is a learning
      curve and you have to make some basic decisions, such as (a) do
      you want to have a blog? (b) will you have separate pages for the
      individual members? (c) will you be hosting music or videos on
      your website? (d) will you be highlighting past
      accomplishments/projects on separate pages? - these are a few of
      the typical questions.&nbsp; Picking up a book on WordPress is
      invaluable if that's the method you go with.<br>
      <br>
      So my recommendation would be to buy a domain name (be careful of
      the hucksters out there), buy a book on WordPress, and install
      WordPress on your host, be it a freebie host or a (preferred if
      you have the budget) paid host.&nbsp; You can also get a WordPress page
      hosted by WordPress.<br>
      <br>
      Here are a few sites I've done for reference.&nbsp; These are in no way
      representative of all the cool things you can do with a website,
      just some basic stuff:<br>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.coldbiscuitband.com">www.coldbiscuitband.com</a><br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.soaringspider.com">www.soaringspider.com</a><br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.synthespider.com">www.synthespider.com</a><br>
      <br>
      Obviously you would use tools like Facebook and YouTube to round
      out your promotional campaign.<br>
      <br>
      dw<br>
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Thanks for the reply Andy.=0A=A0=0ASorry for the short description, a bit p=
ressed for time. =0A=A0=0AThe longer description is that as soon as any sig=
nal above a certain threshold reaches the input, it is enveloped in a wall =
of static. It is very apparent if you lightly tap on muted strings, the noi=
se level is louder than the tapping at the output.This is not as apparent w=
hen playing guitar until first loop is completed and overdubs start, then e=
ach successive overdub the noise is amplified, so overdubs are out of the q=
uestion. I tried various combinations of guitars/amps/cables and had the in=
put effects off. The only thing that sort of=A0worked was one preset which =
had a high pass filter on it which made things a bit better.=0A=A0=0AI didn=
't try a different supply, I will try that when I get a chance.=0A=A0=0AThe=
 problem is I got it off of craigslist so I am stuck with it. If I can't ge=
t it running I will take it apart and see if I can fix it.=0A=A0=0AEric=0A=
=0AFrom: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A>To: "Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> =0A>Sent: Monday, May=
 27, 2013 5:31 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Vox VDL1 noise issues=0A>=0A>=0A>Hi Eric,=
=0A>=0A>I expect a faulty unit.=0A>...but it's a weird fault =0A>=0A>With s=
uch a short description it's not 100% certain.=0A>=0A>Could just be the pre=
set you're using.=0A>=0A>Just to be 100% sure, try hitting the upper right =
footswitch a few times=0A>to change preset. =0A>=0A>Problem still there? =
=0A>=0A>What if every preset is programmed by some evil previous owner?=0A>=
=0A>Hold upper left and right switches down until the fx on the input turns=
 off.=0A>=0A>=0A>Problem still there?=0A>=0A>Try with different psu, 9V cen=
ter negative (like Boss/EH)=0A>=0A>Problem still there?=0A>=0A>back to the =
seller with it then=0A>=0A>andy=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>E Gross wrote:=0A>> I re=
cently picked up a Vox VDL1, it is unusable due to very high level =0A>> of=
 background noise that occurs as soon as strings are touched (quite =0A>> l=
iterally, just tapping on muted strings creates a noise sound once the =0A>=
> level goes above some threshold). Needless to say, it is unusable as a =
=0A>> looping device.=0A>> =0A>> Has anyone else encountered noise problems=
 with the VDL1? Any fixes?=0A>> =0A>> Thanks,=0A>> Eric=0A>> =0A>=0A>=0A>=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"RIGHT: =
auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Thanks for the reply Andy.</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Sorry for the short =
description, a bit pressed for time. </SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">The longer description is tha=
t as soon as any signal above a certain threshold reaches the input, it is =
enveloped in a wall of static. It is very apparent if you lightly tap on mu=
ted strings, the noise level is louder than the tapping at the output.This =
is not as apparent when playing guitar until first loop is completed and ov=
erdubs start, then each successive overdub the noise is amplified, so overd=
ubs are out of the question. I tried various combinations of guitars/amps/c=
ables and had the input effects off. The only thing that sort of&nbsp;worke=
d was one preset which had a high pass filter on it which made things a bit=
 better.</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">I didn't try a diffe=
rent supply, I will try that when I get a chance.</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">The problem is I got it off o=
f craigslist so I am stuck with it. If I can't get it running I will take i=
t apart and see if I can fix it.<VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Eric</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"RIG=
HT: auto"></div>
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=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> andy butler &lt;akbutler@tiscali.co=
.uk&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "Loopers-Del=
ight@loopers-delight.com" &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt; <BR><=
B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, May 27, 2013 5=
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<DIV class=3Dy_msg_container><BR>Hi Eric,<BR><BR>I expect a faulty unit.<BR=
>...but it's a weird fault <BR><BR>With such a short description it's not 1=
00% certain.<BR><BR>Could just be the preset you're using.<BR><BR>Just to b=
e 100% sure, try hitting the upper right footswitch a few times<BR>to chang=
e preset. <BR><BR>Problem still there? <BR><BR>What if every preset is prog=
rammed by some evil previous owner?<BR><BR>Hold upper left and right switch=
es down until the fx on the input turns off.<BR><BR><BR>Problem still there=
?<BR><BR>Try with different psu, 9V center negative (like Boss/EH)<BR><BR>P=
roblem still there?<BR><BR>back to the seller with it then<BR><BR>andy<BR><=
BR><BR><BR><BR>E Gross wrote:<BR>&gt; I recently picked up a Vox VDL1, it i=
s unusable due to very high level <BR>&gt; of background noise that occurs =
as soon as strings are touched (quite <BR>&gt; literally, just tapping on m=
uted strings creates a noise sound once the <BR>&gt; level goes above
 some threshold). Needless to say, it is unusable as a <BR>&gt; looping dev=
ice.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Has anyone else encountered noise problems with the V=
DL1? Any fixes?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks,<BR>&gt; Eric<BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR><=
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<font size=3D"6"><b>LOL</b></font><br clear=3D"all"><div><div style=3D"text=
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Mr <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:elmarote@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">e=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><sp=
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<div><font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style=3D"font-=
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"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2013/5/27 Claudio Pianini <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pi@schalltot.lu" target=3D"_blank">pi@schalltot=
.lu</a>&gt;</span><br>



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<font size=3D"4"><font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt">Hi there,<br>
<br>
</span></font></font><font><font face=3D"Lucida Grande"><span style=3D"font=
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<br>
Best</span></font></font>
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Indeed... supporting the LOL in this thread. The upside down mirroring
was funny and made me imagine hundreds of list readers turning their
computer monitors upside down for reading. Then my smile cracked even
broader when imagining the list crowd moving their monitors down upon
the floor, not putting them upside down but putting themselves upside
down by standing on the head :-))

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Steven Clements <sdclements@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> LOL
> Steven
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Mr <elmarote@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> =CA=87s=C7=9Dq
>>
>> =CB=99=CA=87s=C4=B1=D7=9F =C9=B9no=CA=8E =C9=AFo=C9=B9=C9=9F =C7=9D=C9=
=AF =C7=9D=CA=8Co=C9=AF=C7=9D=C9=B9 =C7=9Ds=C9=90=C7=9D=D7=9Fd
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>> '=C7=9D=C9=B9=C7=9D=C9=A5=CA=87 =C4=B1=C9=A5
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/27 Claudio Pianini <pi@schalltot.lu>
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> please remove me from your list.
>>>
>>> Best
>>
>>
>

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It's=20the=20Computer=20Acrobatics=20Show,=20featuring=20the=20most=20famou=
s=20looping=20artists,=20such=20as=20Per=20Boysen,=20
Michael=20Peters,=20and=20the=20talented=20Kaylon=20Rushing!
Tyler=20Z
On=20Thu,=2030=20May=202013=2017:30:03=20+0200,=20Per=20Boysen=20wrote:


>Indeed...=20supporting=20the=20LOL=20in=20this=20thread.=20The=20upside=20=
down=20mirroring
>was=20funny=20and=20made=20me=20imagine=20hundreds=20of=20list=20readers=
=20turning=20their
>computer=20monitors=20upside=20down=20for=20reading.=20Then=20my=20smile=
=20cracked=20even
>broader=20when=20imagining=20the=20list=20crowd=20moving=20their=20monitor=
s=20down=20upon
>the=20floor,=20not=20putting=20them=20upside=20down=20but=20putting=20them=
selves=20upside
>down=20by=20standing=20on=20the=20head=20:-))
>
>Greetings=20from=20Sweden
>
>Per=20Boysen
>www.perboysen.com
>http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
>
>On=20Thu,=20May=2030,=202013=20at=205:23=20PM,=20Steven=20Clements=20<sdcl=
ements@gmail.com>=20wrote:
>>LOL
>>Steven
>>
>>
>>On=20Mon,=20May=2027,=202013=20at=204:01=20AM,=20Mr=20<elmarote@gmail.com=
>=20wrote:
>>>
>>>=CA=87s=C7=9Dq
>>>
>>>=CB=99=CA=87s=C4=B1=D7=9F=20=C9=B9no=CA=8E=20=C9=AFo=C9=B9=C9=9F=20=C7=
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>>>
>>>'=C7=9D=C9=B9=C7=9D=C9=A5=CA=87=20=C4=B1=C9=A5
>>>
>>>
>>>2013/5/27=20Claudio=20Pianini=20<pi@schalltot.lu>
>>>>
>>>>Hi=20there,
>>>>
>>>>please=20remove=20me=20from=20your=20list.
>>>>
>>>>Best
>>>
>>>
>>


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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY
http://galactictravels.info

Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the 
month-long Special Focus on @Radio Massacre International.  The Featured 
CD at Midnight will be "Lost in Transit 6" on Northern Echo Recordings.  
The Special Focus page is at 
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#may

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that 
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 
93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and 
Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM.  
Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

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I'm very satisfied with these:
http://en-de.sennheiser.com/dj-headphones-noise-reduction-hifi-stereo-hd-25-1-ii
Sylvain


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Ser G. <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
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> And here we go, I just noticed that without any reason my AKG 240 old
> model have the right speaker broken.
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> I would like to buy some new ones, for mixing-monitoring, which are not so
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*I was just remembering Dr. Richard Zvonar today with great fondness 
(and more than a little sadness
that he's no longer with us).
I found this biography/obituary of him and wanted to share it with 
anyone who didn't know of his important
work, artistically.

R.I.P. Dr. Richard Zvonar 1946-2005

*Rick Walker*
*


Dr. Richard 'RZ' Zvonar

Composer Richard Zvonar, 1946-2005
by E. "Doc" Smith‚ Aug. 05‚ 2005
Review it on 
NewsTrust<http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.beyondchron.org?itemid=343>
"I'm sad to report that Richard "RZ" Zvonar has passed away after a long 
bout with cancer.", wrote good friend Steve Ellison last night. "He was 
a breath of fresh air to me when I moved out here, and was a big help 
and very supportive over the years." Indeed, I'll miss him too, as will 
countless others who benefited from his vast musical and electronic 
knowledge, from Jon Hassell, to Diamanda Galas to the Grateful Dead. 
Zvonar once told me of how he first arrived in California from New 
England, nearly broke and living out of his car. Yet his determination, 
conviction kept him going. He succeeded, earned a doctorate, and became 
one of the most respected innovators in his field.

Richard Zvonar was a composer/performer and intermedia artist who 
specialized in electroacoustic music. Some of his significant early 
influences included Louis and Bebe Barron's electronic sound track to 
the 1956 film Forbidden Planet, the Wizard of Oz ("Pay no attention to 
the man behind the curtain"), and the Witch Doctor and Chipmunk 
recordings of David Seville.

During his freshman year as an Aeronautics and Astronautics major at MIT 
the Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan. Intensive guitar practice and first 
attempts at song writing ensued.

Boston was not a major center for avant garde music in those years (has 
it ever been?) but Zvonar pursued an autodidactic education courtesy of 
the electronic music and new music bins at the record department of the 
Harvard Coop. Recordings of Stockhausen, Cage, Oliveros, Reich, Riley, 
Subotnick, and the Columbia-Princeton crowd were as influential on his 
musical thinking as the music of Zappa, Hendrix, the Beatles, the Who, 
and other '60s pop experimentalists.

Zvonar's undergraduate thesis was a short film for three synchronized 
projectors. During this period he also began composing tape music.??His 
first performances of electroacoustic music, using quadraphonic sound 
and tape delay systems, as well as several short theater pieces, came 
while a student at Cabrillo College in the Santa Cruz area. This 
supportive community college environment was an ideal springboard into 
graduate study, and Zvonar was accepted to the composition program at US 
San Diego. His teachers included Pauline Oliveros, Bernard Rands, Roger 
Reynolds, Robert Erickson, F.R. Moore and others, all active 
contemporary music thinkers and practitioners.

Zvonar emerged from academia after seven years with a PhD in Composition 
from UCSD and a brain filled unto bursting. Zvonar's work at this time 
included purely electronic music, musique concrete, pieces for live 
performer and tape, and intermedia performance works. His Doctoral piece 
was a 45-minute intermedia theater piece based on the memoirs of a 
schizophrenia German judge ("soul murder"), combining multi-screen slide 
projections, kinetic staging, choreography, and a mix of electronic and 
processed vocal sound played through a multichannel sound system.

In 1980 Zvonar started a five-year collaboration with singer Diamanda 
Galas, recording and performing works for solo voice, live electronic 
processing, and multitrack tape. The two split in 1985 and Zvonar began 
working with Macintosh computers and MIDI systems for composition and 
performance.

For several years after his move to Los Angeles in 1986 Zvonar was part 
of the technical staff of Good Sound Foundation, researching and 
promoting the use of high-quality multichannel sound systems for live 
performance. He also worked as an independent consultant and software 
developer for clients such as Pauline Oliveros, Jon Hassell, the 
Grateful Dead, sound artist Max Neuhaus, and Marc Canter's Media Band. 
In 1994 he started working with Steve Ellison's company, Level Control 
Systems, bringing similar concepts and technologies to the world of 
commercial entertainment. The work with LCS included training and 
technical support for theme parks and Broadway and Las Vegas shows.

Also during the 1990s, Zvonar's work with live signal processing 
continued in the context of the "ambient groove and spoken word" band 
Cosmic Debris. Live recordings of the group's performances have been 
compiled into several CDs (available from MP3.com), and a studio remix 
project under the name of Alias Zone was released commercially, debuting 
at the #1 position in the New Age Voice chart in February 2002. Zvonar's 
recent work includes pieces for multichannel surround sound (the 
8-channel tape piece "Frikkit!") as well as solo performances using 
digital looping and signal processing (recent participation in the Y2K2 
Loopfest and Woodstockhausen Festival). He was also in a "woodshedding" 
phase of learning new software and re-learning the guitar, with the 
vague notion of melding all his past musical lives into some 
Frankensteinian new genre.

Some of his more recent works and writings included his "History of 
Spatial Music" and "An Extremely Brief History of Spatial Music in the 
20th Century", his famous L.A. "Technology Salons", and I couldn't help 
but notice Tower Records still sporting his "State of the Bass" 
compilation album with the likes of James Sellars, Orlando Jacinto 
Garcia, Amy Knoles, Paul Dresher, Robert Black and the great John Cage 
on "snare drum".

Dr. Richard Zvonar, aka "RZ", will always have a place in our hearts, 
for his insights, his genius, his humor, and in these final years, his 
compassion. He was one of those unsung heroes you never hear about, but 
are unknowingly influenced by everyday.

We will miss him...

/E. "Doc" Smith is a musician and recording engineer who has worked with 
the likes of Brian Eno, Madonna, Warren Zevon, Mickey Hart, Jimmy Cliff, 
and John Mayall among others. He is also the inventor of the musical 
instrument, the Drummstick. He can be reached at drummstick@earthlink.net/

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Hello

This is quite OT but I think I may have usefull info from the techwizards on 
this list.
I recently bought a zoom G5 pedalboard (a kind of M13 for the poor ;-).
I use it in front of my Fender Mustang I Combo (no FX loop), I wonder how I 
should check the gain so the signal/noise ratio is the best without sound 
distorsion. 

The factory presets on the G5 have a lot a volume difference and my question is 
how do you assure a correct level when using a multi FX like this and make an 
even sound among presets?
Is the best solution to use a VU-metre on a mixing desk to create the presets?
I sometime uses the clip led of my jamman but this not precise enough. As the 
amp has also its own amp modelling, using the ear is not enough to detect if the
distorsion come from the amps sim on the G5, the input overloaded or the amp sim
on the amp.

Any input?

Ben
 

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When you are working with a signal path like that, one that passes
through several devices, you need to isolate each device in order to
set its gain correctly. Start with the first device, set the gain
properly, add device two and so on...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello
>
> This is quite OT but I think I may have usefull info from the techwizards on
> this list.
> I recently bought a zoom G5 pedalboard (a kind of M13 for the poor ;-).
> I use it in front of my Fender Mustang I Combo (no FX loop), I wonder how I
> should check the gain so the signal/noise ratio is the best without sound
> distorsion.
>
> The factory presets on the G5 have a lot a volume difference and my question is
> how do you assure a correct level when using a multi FX like this and make an
> even sound among presets?
> Is the best solution to use a VU-metre on a mixing desk to create the presets?
> I sometime uses the clip led of my jamman but this not precise enough. As the
> amp has also its own amp modelling, using the ear is not enough to detect if the
> distorsion come from the amps sim on the G5, the input overloaded or the amp sim
> on the amp.
>
> Any input?
>
> Ben
>
>

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                                        <td valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><p>I recently bought a G5. Weird thing about the unit-there is no global output volume knob. Running it into a combo amp input is challenging if previewing presets as the preset volume varies greatly.</p>
<p>I ran it into my mixer with better results mostly due to the more pleasing stereo handling of the mixer re: delay sounds.</p>
<p>I really like the unit. I think the sounds are much better than the Line6 HD500 and the ease of use factor trumps the HD500 hands down. The looper on the unit is easy to use. For fun looping, the G5 cant be beat. Within a few minutes time, it is easy to record loops, add drum patterns, change patches while looping. </p>
<p>The amp modelling is very good, too. On their own, without effects, the models sound good. For $300 USD, a good buy. IMHO. </p>
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                                        <td valign="top">When you are working with a signal path like that, one that passes<br>through several devices, you need to isolate each device in order to<br>set its gain correctly. Start with the first device, set the gain<br>properly, add device two and so on...<br><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen<br>www.perboysen.com<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/perboysen">http://www.youtube.com/perboysen</a><br><br><br>On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Ben &lt;<a rel="nofollow">benoitruelle@yahoo.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Hello<br>&gt;<br>&gt; This is quite OT but I think I may have usefull info from the techwizards on<br>&gt; this list.<br>&gt; I recently bought a zoom G5 pedalboard (a kind of M13 for the poor ;-).<br>&gt; I use it in front of my Fender Mustang I Combo (no FX loop), I wonder how I<br>&gt; should check the gain so the signal/noise
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They must be good for that price.
I cannot unfortunately pay that much. 185 b-stock in Thomann.
The Audio Technica ATH-M50 are cheaper. And the AKG-240 (which now come wit=
h low impedance fortunately) are even cheaper.
I was thinking to buy something different then the 240 because I never love=
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Ser

Date: Thu=2C 30 May 2013 21:12:52 -0400
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I'm very satisfied with these: http://en-de.sennheiser.com/dj-headphones-no=
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And here we go=2C I just noticed that without any reason my AKG 240 old mod=
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I would like to buy some new ones=2C for mixing-monitoring=2C which are not=
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Hello=2C good news=2C it was such a stupid thing.
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Dr. Z was THE BEST. I miss him. Thanks for posting, Rick.
==== dB ==============


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> *I was just remembering Dr. Richard Zvonar today with great fondness (and 
> more than a little sadness
> that he's no longer with us).
> I found this biography/obituary of him and wanted to share it with anyone 
> who didn't know of his important
> work, artistically.
>
> R.I.P. Dr. Richard Zvonar 1946-2005
>
> *Rick Walker*
> *
>
>
> Dr. Richard 'RZ' Zvonar
>
> Composer Richard Zvonar, 1946-2005
> by E. "Doc" Smith‚ Aug. 05‚ 2005
> Review it on 
> NewsTrust<http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.beyondchron.org?itemid=343>
> "I'm sad to report that Richard "RZ" Zvonar has passed away after a long 
> bout with cancer.", wrote good friend Steve Ellison last night. "He was a 
> breath of fresh air to me when I moved out here, and was a big help and 
> very supportive over the years." Indeed, I'll miss him too, as will 
> countless others who benefited from his vast musical and electronic 
> knowledge, from Jon Hassell, to Diamanda Galas to the Grateful Dead. 
> Zvonar once told me of how he first arrived in California from New 
> England, nearly broke and living out of his car. Yet his determination, 
> conviction kept him going. He succeeded, earned a doctorate, and became 
> one of the most respected innovators in his field.
>
> Richard Zvonar was a composer/performer and intermedia artist who 
> specialized in electroacoustic music. Some of his significant early 
> influences included Louis and Bebe Barron's electronic sound track to the 
> 1956 film Forbidden Planet, the Wizard of Oz ("Pay no attention to the man 
> behind the curtain"), and the Witch Doctor and Chipmunk recordings of 
> David Seville.
>
> During his freshman year as an Aeronautics and Astronautics major at MIT 
> the Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan. Intensive guitar practice and first 
> attempts at song writing ensued.
>
> Boston was not a major center for avant garde music in those years (has it 
> ever been?) but Zvonar pursued an autodidactic education courtesy of the 
> electronic music and new music bins at the record department of the 
> Harvard Coop. Recordings of Stockhausen, Cage, Oliveros, Reich, Riley, 
> Subotnick, and the Columbia-Princeton crowd were as influential on his 
> musical thinking as the music of Zappa, Hendrix, the Beatles, the Who, and 
> other '60s pop experimentalists.
>
> Zvonar's undergraduate thesis was a short film for three synchronized 
> projectors. During this period he also began composing tape music.??His 
> first performances of electroacoustic music, using quadraphonic sound and 
> tape delay systems, as well as several short theater pieces, came while a 
> student at Cabrillo College in the Santa Cruz area. This supportive 
> community college environment was an ideal springboard into graduate 
> study, and Zvonar was accepted to the composition program at US San Diego. 
> His teachers included Pauline Oliveros, Bernard Rands, Roger Reynolds, 
> Robert Erickson, F.R. Moore and others, all active contemporary music 
> thinkers and practitioners.
>
> Zvonar emerged from academia after seven years with a PhD in Composition 
> from UCSD and a brain filled unto bursting. Zvonar's work at this time 
> included purely electronic music, musique concrete, pieces for live 
> performer and tape, and intermedia performance works. His Doctoral piece 
> was a 45-minute intermedia theater piece based on the memoirs of a 
> schizophrenia German judge ("soul murder"), combining multi-screen slide 
> projections, kinetic staging, choreography, and a mix of electronic and 
> processed vocal sound played through a multichannel sound system.
>
> In 1980 Zvonar started a five-year collaboration with singer Diamanda 
> Galas, recording and performing works for solo voice, live electronic 
> processing, and multitrack tape. The two split in 1985 and Zvonar began 
> working with Macintosh computers and MIDI systems for composition and 
> performance.
>
> For several years after his move to Los Angeles in 1986 Zvonar was part of 
> the technical staff of Good Sound Foundation, researching and promoting 
> the use of high-quality multichannel sound systems for live performance. 
> He also worked as an independent consultant and software developer for 
> clients such as Pauline Oliveros, Jon Hassell, the Grateful Dead, sound 
> artist Max Neuhaus, and Marc Canter's Media Band. In 1994 he started 
> working with Steve Ellison's company, Level Control Systems, bringing 
> similar concepts and technologies to the world of commercial 
> entertainment. The work with LCS included training and technical support 
> for theme parks and Broadway and Las Vegas shows.
>
> Also during the 1990s, Zvonar's work with live signal processing continued 
> in the context of the "ambient groove and spoken word" band Cosmic Debris. 
> Live recordings of the group's performances have been compiled into 
> several CDs (available from MP3.com), and a studio remix project under the 
> name of Alias Zone was released commercially, debuting at the #1 position 
> in the New Age Voice chart in February 2002. Zvonar's recent work includes 
> pieces for multichannel surround sound (the 8-channel tape piece 
> "Frikkit!") as well as solo performances using digital looping and signal 
> processing (recent participation in the Y2K2 Loopfest and Woodstockhausen 
> Festival). He was also in a "woodshedding" phase of learning new software 
> and re-learning the guitar, with the vague notion of melding all his past 
> musical lives into some Frankensteinian new genre.
>
> Some of his more recent works and writings included his "History of 
> Spatial Music" and "An Extremely Brief History of Spatial Music in the 
> 20th Century", his famous L.A. "Technology Salons", and I couldn't help 
> but notice Tower Records still sporting his "State of the Bass" 
> compilation album with the likes of James Sellars, Orlando Jacinto Garcia, 
> Amy Knoles, Paul Dresher, Robert Black and the great John Cage on "snare 
> drum".
>
> Dr. Richard Zvonar, aka "RZ", will always have a place in our hearts, for 
> his insights, his genius, his humor, and in these final years, his 
> compassion. He was one of those unsung heroes you never hear about, but 
> are unknowingly influenced by everyday.
>
> We will miss him...
>
> /E. "Doc" Smith is a musician and recording engineer who has worked with 
> the likes of Brian Eno, Madonna, Warren Zevon, Mickey Hart, Jimmy Cliff, 
> and John Mayall among others. He is also the inventor of the musical 
> instrument, the Drummstick. He can be reached at drummstick@earthlink.net/
> 

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I like the idea with a mixer. The G5 has a separate XLR output, which 
can be setup pre-fx. You could pan the xlr output hard left and the L/R 
1/4" output hard right and compare the levels in left and right channels 
of your mixer. Then you could aim for unity gain (input=output level) or 
a constant boost between input and output. Note that the differences are 
sometimes what you want (think of a boost-for-solo patch). This is just 
the tip of the iceberg, as there are many other factors like eq on your 
guitar, playing style etc. Zoom claims that internal processing is 
32-bit which should give enough headroom, so I wouldn't worry about 
'optimal' signal/noise ratio.
In general getting consistent levels in a multi-fx is a bit of a 
challenge. If you want to keep it simple - use the patch level to adjust 
the volume (per patch).

Hope this helps,
MichaÅ‚


W dniu 31.05.2013 08:53, Ben pisze:
> Hello
>
> This is quite OT but I think I may have usefull info from the techwizards on
> this list.
> I recently bought a zoom G5 pedalboard (a kind of M13 for the poor ;-).
> I use it in front of my Fender Mustang I Combo (no FX loop), I wonder how I
> should check the gain so the signal/noise ratio is the best without sound
> distorsion.
>
> The factory presets on the G5 have a lot a volume difference and my question is
> how do you assure a correct level when using a multi FX like this and make an
> even sound among presets?
> Is the best solution to use a VU-metre on a mixing desk to create the presets?
> I sometime uses the clip led of my jamman but this not precise enough. As the
> amp has also its own amp modelling, using the ear is not enough to detect if the
> distorsion come from the amps sim on the G5, the input overloaded or the amp sim
> on the amp.
>
> Any input?
>
> Ben
>   
>
>

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What's your budget?
"not so expensive" is relative...

Sylvain


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Ser G. <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:

> They must be good for that price.
> I cannot unfortunately pay that much. 185 b-stock in Thomann.
> The Audio Technica ATH-M50 are cheaper. And the AKG-240 (which now come
> with low impedance fortunately) are even cheaper.
> I was thinking to buy something different then the 240 because I never
> loved them much, but maybe with the new impedance they are better.
>
> Ser
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 21:12:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: Headphones monitors dead. New one?
> From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> I'm very satisfied with these:
> http://en-de.sennheiser.com/dj-headphones-noise-reduction-hifi-stereo-hd-25-1-ii
> Sylvain
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Ser G. <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> And here we go, I just noticed that without any reason my AKG 240 old
> model have the right speaker broken.
>
> I would like to buy some new ones, for mixing-monitoring, which are not so
> expensive.
>
> Some suggestions?
>
> Ser
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">What&#39;s your budget?<div><span style=3D"font-family:ari=
al,sans-serif;font-size:13px">&quot;not so expensive&quot; is relative...</=
span><br></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:1=
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x">Sylvain</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Ser G. <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simpliflying@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simpliflyin=
g@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">They must be good for that price.<br>I cannot unfortu=
nately pay that much. 185 b-stock in Thomann.<br>The Audio Technica ATH-M50=
 are cheaper. And the AKG-240 (which now come with low impedance fortunatel=
y) are even cheaper.<br>
I was thinking to buy something different then the 240 because I never love=
d them much, but maybe with the new impedance they are better.<br><br>Ser<b=
r><br><div><hr>Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 21:12:52 -0400<br>Subject: Re: Headph=
ones monitors dead. New one?<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sylva=
in.trombone@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-=
delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div>=
<div class=3D"h5">
<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m very satisfied with these:=A0<a href=3D"ht=
tp://en-de.sennheiser.com/dj-headphones-noise-reduction-hifi-stereo-hd-25-1=
-ii" target=3D"_blank">http://en-de.sennheiser.com/dj-headphones-noise-redu=
ction-hifi-stereo-hd-25-1-ii</a><div>

Sylvain</div></div><div><br><br><div>On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Ser G=
. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simpliflying@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">simpliflying@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello!<br><br>And here we go, I just noticed that wit=
hout any reason my AKG 240 old model have the right speaker broken.<br><br>=
I would like to buy some new ones, for mixing-monitoring, which are not so =
expensive.<br>

<br>Some suggestions?<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br>Ser<br> 		 	   	=
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Ben wrote:

> The factory presets 

...well, you'll only ever hear those once at most ;-)

> Is the best solution to use a VU-metre on a mixing desk to create the presets?

Seems likely...
but no, because a VU meter won't tell you how loud it sounds.
You'd end up with the distorted sounds being much louder
than the clean ones. (A bit like the factory presets!)

> I sometime uses the clip led of my jamman but this not precise enough.

and has the same problem as VUs


You have to use your ears.

It'll be easier to get consistent level by ear if you're playing
along to a backing (or just some track).
That's because level is more critical when a sound is heard in a mix.

Spend more time with the levels on distorted/compressed patches, because
you won't be able to fix things easy by playing quieter/louder.


> As the 
> amp has also its own amp modelling, using the ear is not enough to detect if the
> distorsion come from the amps sim on the G5, the input overloaded or the amp sim
> on the amp.

Well, if the amp isn't overloading on a clean patch, it won't overload on a distorted
patch that sound the same volume.


> 
> Any input?

hope that helps some

andy

> 
> Ben
>  
> 
> 

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                                        <td valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><p>I recently bought a G5. Weird thing about the unit-there is no global output volume knob. Running it into a combo amp input is challenging if previewing presets as the preset volume varies greatly.</p>
<p>I ran it into my mixer with better results mostly due to the more pleasing stereo handling of the mixer re: delay sounds.</p>
<p>I really like the unit. I think the sounds are much better than the Line6 HD500 and the ease of use factor trumps the HD500 hands down. The looper on the unit is easy to use. For fun looping, the G5 cant be beat. Within a few minutes time, it is easy to record loops, add drum patterns, change patches while looping. </p>
<p>The amp modelling is very good, too. On their own, without effects, the models sound good. For $300 USD, a good buy. IMHO. </p>
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                                        <td valign="top">When you are working with a signal path like that, one that passes<br>through several devices, you need to isolate each device in order to<br>set its gain correctly. Start with the first device, set the gain<br>properly, add device two and so on...<br><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen<br>www.perboysen.com<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/perboysen">http://www.youtube.com/perboysen</a><br><br><br>On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Ben &lt;<a rel="nofollow">benoitruelle@yahoo.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Hello<br>&gt;<br>&gt; This is quite OT but I think I may have usefull info from the techwizards on<br>&gt; this list.<br>&gt; I recently bought a zoom G5 pedalboard (a kind of M13 for the poor ;-).<br>&gt; I use it in front of my Fender Mustang I Combo (no FX loop), I wonder how I<br>&gt; should check the gain so the signal/noise
 ratio is the best without sound<br>&gt; distorsion.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The factory presets on the G5 have a lot a volume difference and my question is<br>&gt; how do you assure a correct level when using a multi FX like this and make an<br>&gt; even sound among presets?<br>&gt; Is the best solution to use a VU-metre on a mixing desk to create the presets?<br>&gt; I sometime uses the clip led of my jamman but this not precise enough. As the<br>&gt; amp has also its own amp modelling, using the ear is not enough to detect if the<br>&gt; distorsion come from the amps sim on the G5, the input overloaded or the amp sim<br>&gt; on the amp.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Any input?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ben<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br></td>
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Reverse the L/R position of the headphone on your head (put them on 
backwards) and you'll have your answer.

At 1:35 PM +0200 5/31/13, Ser G. wrote:
>Hello, good news, it was such a stupid thing.
>Do you know the black, hmmm, ok, thing, the black soft thing which 
>cover the speaker of the headphones? From outside it was not 
>noticeable but I took off the circle which closes around the ear (no 
>idea how is it called), and then I removed this soft sponge, and in 
>its inner part it was broken and a part was touching the speaker, 
>provoking a vibration which seemed to be of a damaged speaker.
>I am glad I do not have to spend money!
>Now I am listening to some basses in mono, and I notice that on the 
>right side it is brighter, on the left more punchy.
>Can this be a subjective perception as it often happens for the eyes 
>(where one eye sees colors and light a bit differently)?
>
>Ser
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Yes, he indeed was (the best) and very much missed.


On May 31, 2013, at 5:17 AM, Douglas Baldwin wrote:

> Dr. Z was THE BEST. I miss him. Thanks for posting, Rick.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D dB =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
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>> *I was just remembering Dr. Richard Zvonar today with great fondness =
(and more than a little sadness
>> that he's no longer with us).
>> I found this biography/obituary of him and wanted to share it with =
anyone who didn't know of his important
>> work, artistically.
>>=20
>> R.I.P. Dr. Richard Zvonar 1946-2005
>>=20
>> *Rick Walker*
>> *
>>=20
>>=20
>> Dr. Richard 'RZ' Zvonar
>>=20
>> Composer Richard Zvonar, 1946-2005
>> by E. "Doc" Smith=82 Aug. 05=82 2005
>> Review it on =
NewsTrust<http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=3Dhttp://www.beyondchron.or=
g?itemid=3D343>
>> "I'm sad to report that Richard "RZ" Zvonar has passed away after a =
long bout with cancer.", wrote good friend Steve Ellison last night. "He =
was a breath of fresh air to me when I moved out here, and was a big =
help and very supportive over the years." Indeed, I'll miss him too, as =
will countless others who benefited from his vast musical and electronic =
knowledge, from Jon Hassell, to Diamanda Galas to the Grateful Dead. =
Zvonar once told me of how he first arrived in California from New =
England, nearly broke and living out of his car. Yet his determination, =
conviction kept him going. He succeeded, earned a doctorate, and became =
one of the most respected innovators in his field.
>>=20
>> Richard Zvonar was a composer/performer and intermedia artist who =
specialized in electroacoustic music. Some of his significant early =
influences included Louis and Bebe Barron's electronic sound track to =
the 1956 film Forbidden Planet, the Wizard of Oz ("Pay no attention to =
the man behind the curtain"), and the Witch Doctor and Chipmunk =
recordings of David Seville.
>>=20
>> During his freshman year as an Aeronautics and Astronautics major at =
MIT the Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan. Intensive guitar practice and =
first attempts at song writing ensued.
>>=20
>> Boston was not a major center for avant garde music in those years =
(has it ever been?) but Zvonar pursued an autodidactic education =
courtesy of the electronic music and new music bins at the record =
department of the Harvard Coop. Recordings of Stockhausen, Cage, =
Oliveros, Reich, Riley, Subotnick, and the Columbia-Princeton crowd were =
as influential on his musical thinking as the music of Zappa, Hendrix, =
the Beatles, the Who, and other '60s pop experimentalists.
>>=20
>> Zvonar's undergraduate thesis was a short film for three synchronized =
projectors. During this period he also began composing tape music.??His =
first performances of electroacoustic music, using quadraphonic sound =
and tape delay systems, as well as several short theater pieces, came =
while a student at Cabrillo College in the Santa Cruz area. This =
supportive community college environment was an ideal springboard into =
graduate study, and Zvonar was accepted to the composition program at US =
San Diego. His teachers included Pauline Oliveros, Bernard Rands, Roger =
Reynolds, Robert Erickson, F.R. Moore and others, all active =
contemporary music thinkers and practitioners.
>>=20
>> Zvonar emerged from academia after seven years with a PhD in =
Composition from UCSD and a brain filled unto bursting. Zvonar's work at =
this time included purely electronic music, musique concrete, pieces for =
live performer and tape, and intermedia performance works. His Doctoral =
piece was a 45-minute intermedia theater piece based on the memoirs of a =
schizophrenia German judge ("soul murder"), combining multi-screen slide =
projections, kinetic staging, choreography, and a mix of electronic and =
processed vocal sound played through a multichannel sound system.
>>=20
>> In 1980 Zvonar started a five-year collaboration with singer Diamanda =
Galas, recording and performing works for solo voice, live electronic =
processing, and multitrack tape. The two split in 1985 and Zvonar began =
working with Macintosh computers and MIDI systems for composition and =
performance.
>>=20
>> For several years after his move to Los Angeles in 1986 Zvonar was =
part of the technical staff of Good Sound Foundation, researching and =
promoting the use of high-quality multichannel sound systems for live =
performance. He also worked as an independent consultant and software =
developer for clients such as Pauline Oliveros, Jon Hassell, the =
Grateful Dead, sound artist Max Neuhaus, and Marc Canter's Media Band. =
In 1994 he started working with Steve Ellison's company, Level Control =
Systems, bringing similar concepts and technologies to the world of =
commercial entertainment. The work with LCS included training and =
technical support for theme parks and Broadway and Las Vegas shows.
>>=20
>> Also during the 1990s, Zvonar's work with live signal processing =
continued in the context of the "ambient groove and spoken word" band =
Cosmic Debris. Live recordings of the group's performances have been =
compiled into several CDs (available from MP3.com), and a studio remix =
project under the name of Alias Zone was released commercially, debuting =
at the #1 position in the New Age Voice chart in February 2002. Zvonar's =
recent work includes pieces for multichannel surround sound (the =
8-channel tape piece "Frikkit!") as well as solo performances using =
digital looping and signal processing (recent participation in the Y2K2 =
Loopfest and Woodstockhausen Festival). He was also in a "woodshedding" =
phase of learning new software and re-learning the guitar, with the =
vague notion of melding all his past musical lives into some =
Frankensteinian new genre.
>>=20
>> Some of his more recent works and writings included his "History of =
Spatial Music" and "An Extremely Brief History of Spatial Music in the =
20th Century", his famous L.A. "Technology Salons", and I couldn't help =
but notice Tower Records still sporting his "State of the Bass" =
compilation album with the likes of James Sellars, Orlando Jacinto =
Garcia, Amy Knoles, Paul Dresher, Robert Black and the great John Cage =
on "snare drum".
>>=20
>> Dr. Richard Zvonar, aka "RZ", will always have a place in our hearts, =
for his insights, his genius, his humor, and in these final years, his =
compassion. He was one of those unsung heroes you never hear about, but =
are unknowingly influenced by everyday.
>>=20
>> We will miss him...
>>=20
>> /E. "Doc" Smith is a musician and recording engineer who has worked =
with the likes of Brian Eno, Madonna, Warren Zevon, Mickey Hart, Jimmy =
Cliff, and John Mayall among others. He is also the inventor of the =
musical instrument, the Drummstick. He can be reached at =
drummstick@earthlink.net/
>=20

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Hmmm.
Confirmed. My left ear is different than my right one. On the left I defini=
tely ear more basses and slightly more loud.
I have to consider it at the moment of mixing.

Sylvain=2C problem solved=2C but it was around 100 euro=2C something more s=
omething less.

Ser

> Date: Fri=2C 31 May 2013 09:48:55 -0400
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> From: cazwicky@earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: Headphones Monitors not dead after all
>=20
> Reverse the L/R position of the headphone on your head (put them on=20
> backwards) and you'll have your answer.
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> At 1:35 PM +0200 5/31/13=2C Ser G. wrote:
> >Hello=2C good news=2C it was such a stupid thing.
> >Do you know the black=2C hmmm=2C ok=2C thing=2C the black soft thing whi=
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> >noticeable but I took off the circle which closes around the ear (no=20
> >idea how is it called)=2C and then I removed this soft sponge=2C and in=
=20
> >its inner part it was broken and a part was touching the speaker=2C=20
> >provoking a vibration which seemed to be of a damaged speaker.
> >I am glad I do not have to spend money!
> >Now I am listening to some basses in mono=2C and I notice that on the=20
> >right side it is brighter=2C on the left more punchy.
> >Can this be a subjective perception as it often happens for the eyes=20
> >(where one eye sees colors and light a bit differently)?
> >
> >Ser
> >
>=20
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> http://www.zmix.net
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What this (or the Facebook group) pushed me to do and which ended up =
making me much happier with the Boomerang III was to tune almost every =
element in my signal path for unity gain and then just account for being =
at instrument level rather than line level (I think those are the right =
terms) when I hit my mixer.

I don't know what the right answer would be for setting the gain on a =
boost pedal using the above advice if the goal of the boost really was =
to make things louder. I guess it would just be "set it to the amount of =
extra gain you want" but then you need to watch out downstream for =
devices that don't like hot signals (e.g., the Boomerang).

Mark

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<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,sans-serif>I played in a band for years standing to the left of the drummer. My right ear suffered some damage from all the cymbal crashes. Wish I had been wiser about such things then.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hmmm.<BR>Confirmed. My left ear is different than my right one. On the left I definitely ear more basses and slightly more loud.<BR>I have to consider it at the moment of mixing.<BR><BR>Sylvain, problem solved, but it was around 100 euro, something more something less.<BR><BR>Ser<BR>
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<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,sans-serif>I have both the basic K-240 and the K-240DF, both 600 ohms. Yes, they do take a high-voltage power amp to drive ( I usually use a small Crown amp (D30 or something like that)&nbsp;with a headphone jack) but I've tried many headphones and find these to be the closest to typical studio monitors when needing to mix with headphones. They seem to be very flat with no hyped regions. Also they are very comfortable. I haven't tried everything out there by any means but the 240's are the best I've found and they're my favorites. To each his own though.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hmmm, I am not very fond of them because it is the model with 600 ohms impedance, they need power.<BR>For the quality I cannot speak because they are the only pair of headphones monitors I had, so I cannot compare.<BR>Do you have the old model too? I am not sure how to open them to check the cable.<BR><BR>Ser<BR>
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