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Was my last post censored? I had some pretty good info from korg boards and i=
t must have missed the boat. Fuckit we were already dead

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2012, at 7:59 AM, "Sergio Girardi" <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> Yes. I have an MS too. ANd I do not touch it ever. Actually, having the oc=
tatrack and the Kaoss Pad I was quite sure about selling it.
> The reason why I am not selling it yet is that at first I would have liked=
 at least to try it out :) ANd that I have a midi keyboard of 49 keys, and I=
 think that sometimes I may need a little one, and this has got no transpose=
 but, well, may work.
> I like the mode where you can slice, I mean, record something in many diff=
erent keys in sequence, so that you have the first 2 seconds in the first ke=
y, the other 2 seconds on the second key etc.
> The Octatrack does it too, but I still am not sure how it works there...
>=20
> I will try something in the future now that I will have time :)
>=20
> Thanks!
>=20
> > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:44:12 +0100
> > Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool
> >=20
> >=20
> > Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Mmm, a bit complicated. The loops must have all the same length, right=
? THe same of the first one.
> > Hi Sergio,
> >=20
> > That's what he's using in this case, yes.
> > The pedal is just to "arm" recording', then you have to press the key=20=

> > on which to record. As he doesn't want to do it by hand, he has=20
> > prepared a 2 bars pattern as a "container" of "empty" slots=20
> > (note-on/note-off). Each slots is indeed 2 bars long (or almost so as=20=

> > the note-off is a bit before the note-on when the pattern restarts).
> > He could have choosen some note as 1/4, 1/8, or whatever and any=20
> > pattern he likes. It's a bit like using an MPC, preparing the sequence
> > (midi) then only adding the sound later.
> > The sequence is just needed to trigger the recording and then trigger=20=

> > the newly recorded sample. The MS has several sampling modes and he's=20=

> > using "sampling triggered by a note for a given amount of time=20
> > (2bars)."
> >=20
> > > Or well, surely not more, or it happens what happened with the last lo=
op to him.WHat if while preparing the slots you press the key less time than=
 the first loop's length?
> >=20
> > With this technique the loop will be shorter but still retriggered=20
> > every 2 bars by its note-on event so still in sync.
> > You can do stutter effects if you like or do "replace" like in=20
> > EDP/LPx, then change the pattern for other effects. The difference is=20=

> > that you can do this on 36 "tracks".
> >=20
> > So, there is no way to just press play and start recording and press=20
> > again to stop recording and start playing, deciding on your own the=20
> > length of each loop?
> > >
> > you can not do REC/PLAY, no. Its REC/STOP/PLAY but there are other=20
> > modes (gate mode) where you can decide the length of course. It's a=20
> > nice way to do quick multisampling. Just connect an external module=20
> > via midi and record it's output. ARM sampling, play a "scale" on the=20
> > MS keyboard; it will trigger the sound module and sample at the same=20
> > time while the key is down.
> >=20
> > I haven't touch my MS for a while, but this video gave me the envy to=20=

> > start again.
> >=20
> > Ben
> >=20
> >=20

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THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
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My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show,
will be Saturday, December 1 at 6 am EST/GMT-5.  In Phase One, I will
continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler
CDs.

I will play music by artists who will play at area concerts such as the
Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 2.

I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show
features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an
eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive
Rock.

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I have: Filter Factory, EQ Killer, Mo-X, Repeater. (Never got my hands on th=
e Warp.)

Intimacy over options. Playability.

I'd have to replace any if it went down.  I'd love 3 more EQ Killers.=20

Peter



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> I also stand up and proudly claim the honour of ownership of one of these b=
easts, again, no longer in the rack.
> Heres a track I recorded with friends with some serious MoFexing at the st=
art... a track performed and recorded via NinJam between Oslo, Paris and Sao=
 Paulo.
>=20
> http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:41 PM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wro=
te:
>> OLA SCOTT!.....i love my mo.....i wish the "delay" section came as a foot=
 pedal but it doesn't, sigh,
>>=20
>> you can still do a ton of stuff with it, it is a great mangler.....being a=
ble to change the input frequencies
>>=20
>> is a deep gas, the artifacts you get when changing speed are a simple tre=
at and being able to tap tempo the input is swell
>>=20
>> .....in studio, i have the mo before=20
>>=20
>> everything else, you pick up a looper, albeit short, it works as a bit of=
 a pre-amp with the "distortion" section,
>>=20
>> the FLANGE and the TREMOLO are iffy at best.....my mo is in a rack so i n=
o longer schlepp it around, even
>>=20
>> out of the rack, it's a heavy little log.....as i have said, it would mak=
e an XCELLENT DELAY PEDAL.....but
>>=20
>> being a bit of a clone, this pedal may already be out there and i just do=
n't know about it, if so, let me know.....
>>=20
>> as for, is there an app for it, that's the stuff of satan.....
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>I have: Filter Factory, EQ Killer, Mo-X, Repeater. (Never got my hands on the Warp.)</div><div><br></div><div>Intimacy over options. Playability.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd have to replace any if it went down. &nbsp;I'd love 3 more EQ Killers.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Peter</div><div><br></div><div><br><br>Peter Koniuto<div><br></div></div><div><br>On Nov 30, 2012, at 6:37 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I also stand up and proudly claim the honour of ownership of one of these beasts, again, no longer in the rack.<br>Heres a track I recorded with friends with some serious MoFexing at the start... a track performed and recorded via NinJam between Oslo, Paris and Sao Paulo.<br>

<br><a href="http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2">http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2</a><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:41 PM, michael klobuchar <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nemoguitt@aol.com" target="_blank">nemoguitt@aol.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color="black" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">OLA SCOTT!.....i love my mo.....i wish the "delay" section came as a foot pedal but it doesn't, sigh,
<div><br>
</div>

<div>you can still do a ton of stuff with it, it is a great mangler.....being able to change the input frequencies</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>is a deep gas, the artifacts you get when changing speed are a simple treat and being able to tap tempo the input is swell</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>.....in studio, i have the mo before&nbsp;</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>everything else, you pick up a looper, albeit short, it works as a bit of a pre-amp with the "distortion" section,</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>the FLANGE and the TREMOLO are iffy at best.....my mo is in a rack so i no longer schlepp it around, even</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>out of the rack, it's a heavy little log.....as i have said, it would make an XCELLENT DELAY PEDAL.....but</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>being a bit of a clone, this pedal may already be out there and i just don't know about it, if so, let me know.....</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>as for, is there an app for it, that's the stuff of satan.....<br>
<br>
<br>

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Mark,

I really like this cut!

Peter

On Nov 30, 2012, at 6:37 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

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> Heres a track I recorded with friends with some serious MoFexing at the st=
art... a track performed and recorded via NinJam between Oslo, Paris and Sao=
 Paulo.
>=20
> http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2
>=20
> --=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>Mark,</div><div><br></div><div>I really like this cut!</div><div><br></div><div>Peter</div><div><br>On Nov 30, 2012, at 6:37 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I also stand up and proudly claim the honour of ownership of one of these beasts, again, no longer in the rack.<br>Heres a track I recorded with friends with some serious MoFexing at the start... a track performed and recorded via NinJam between Oslo, Paris and Sao Paulo.<br>

<br><a href="http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2">http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2</a><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br>-- <br><i style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,255,255);background-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size="4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

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Todd that must be an awesome tattoo haha

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Todd that must be an awesome tattoo haha<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
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Thanks Peter! Me too!

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 1 Dec 2012, at 07:02, Peter Koniuto <peter@redsunsoundroom.com> wrote:


Mark,

I really like this cut!

Peter

On Nov 30, 2012, at 6:37 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

I also stand up and proudly claim the honour of ownership of one of these
beasts, again, no longer in the rack.
Heres a track I recorded with friends with some serious MoFexing at the
start... a track performed and recorded via NinJam between Oslo, Paris and
Sao Paulo.

http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2

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r Koniuto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peter@redsunsoundroom.com">peter@redsunsoun=
droom.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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iv><div>Mark,</div><div><br></div><div>I really like this cut!</div><div><b=
r></div>
<div>Peter</div><div><br>On Nov 30, 2012, at 6:37 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:</div><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>I also stand up and p=
roudly claim the honour of ownership of one of these beasts, again, no long=
er in the rack.<br>
Heres a track I recorded with friends with some serious MoFexing at the sta=
rt... a track performed and recorded via NinJam between Oslo, Paris and Sao=
 Paulo.<br>

<br><a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2">http=
://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2</a><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(2=
55,255,255);background-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuch=
et ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>


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.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,=
51)">


<a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=
=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)"=
><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>


twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@=
N00/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/</a><br><=
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i have a MS=2C it is kinda like a jack in the box....turn the handle....sam=
pling on it is usefull...pain in the arse tryin to record power chords.....=
.and press the record button....found this on the korg forums....a lil date=
d=2C bot not too old...
mojofunk



Joined: 10 Jun 2011
Posts: 23
Location:  Buffalo=2C NY
Posted: Sun Dec 11=2C 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: microSampler is an awes=
ome looper! However .  . . Live loopers=2C doubt not that the microSampler =
 can be quite formidable!=20

It took me a while to get my head around it=2C  but with the help of some a=
mazing folks around here=2C I've been having a blast  doing live looping on=
 the MS. I'm nearly ready to ditch my soundcard and netbook  running ableto=
n for live shows.=20

Here's the set up: guitar and bass into  sansamps=2C a/b switch=2C into the=
 line in of a Kaossillator pro=2C with acoustic  guitar into the mic in (th=
e KPro is a good little mixer=2C with a few knobs for  volume!). KPro outpu=
ts into a Boss Slicer=2C into the microSampler.=20

On the  microSampler the first 16 keys have drum loops=2C the next 12 get s=
illy vocal  snippets (like "Adventures in stereo!" from an Admiral stereo d=
emonstration LP)=2C  and the remaining 8 keys are for looping.=20

I have the sequencer loaded  with midi files (created in ableton) which tri=
gger the 8 loopers and one of the  drum loops for 8 measures (including key=
 16=2C which is loaded with a silent  sample). So once I have a few loops g=
oing=2C I can change the drum loop with the  sequence selector. (For detail=
s on how the sequencer can initiate auto looping  look around this forum)=20

Of course=2C the 8 looping tracks are all 8  measures long=2C but for the s=
tuff I am doing it's fine - and pretty terrific as  compared to the anemic =
looping available on the KPro. And since its all midi'd  up=2C I can always=
 throw short KPro loops on top (as well as the looping ability  of the Slic=
er!). Changing the drum beats on the fly=2C and muting/unmuting gives a  gr=
eat deal of arrangement ability. Setting the microSampler fx to audio in gi=
ves  me a good bit of fx madness to play with as well.=20

Ok - it is amazing  fun=2C and the audio (even at 24 & mono) sounds great. =
But the one persistent  difficulty I have encountered has to do with the li=
ttle gap in the midi file  notes necessary to trigger auto loop. I first tr=
ied no gap=2C and it would not  trigger the sample the first time around=2C=
 but it would the second time. This is  doable - just keep playing for an a=
dditional 8 measures=2C and then the loop  created previously kicks in (whi=
ch feels a bit odd=2C but can sound cool). So I  began widening the gap of =
the midi notes=2C and eventually got it to reliably  trigger automatically =
at loop completion. Great! But no=2C at different tempos=2C it  again faile=
d to trigger until the second pass=2C boo hiss.=20

So the question  I have been building up to is this: has anyone been able t=
o set up a template  midi file that will auto loop reliably at any tempo? W=
hat have others determined  regarding the gaps between midi notes? Anyone e=
lse working similarly=2C and what  have y'all figured out? Thanks for all t=
he help so  far!
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Joined: 08 Oct 2011
Posts:  13

Posted: Mon Dec 12=2C 2011 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: microSampler is an =
awesome looper!  However . . . Sorry=2C no help from here. From what I  und=
erstand=2C your solution is the best possible. If you make the patterns/loo=
ps  within Microkorg=2C you not only have to trigger them a bit after one=
=2C you also  have to make them shorter than 1 bar so as to not spill on to=
 the second bar  (creating a one bar play=2C one bar silence pattern).=20

Just venting with  you to share my frustration. I also have the Kaossilator=
 Pro which is a mediocre  looper (lots of noise=2C only 4 bars!) I really b=
ought the Microsampler more for  loops than one-shots but on that account i=
t's proven a real let-down.=20

Fortunately I have the right to return it for a full refund=2C an option I =
 am about to exercise.Back to top  mojofunk



Joined: 10 Jun 2011
Posts: 23
Location:  Buffalo=2C NY
Posted: Mon Dec 12=2C 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: microSampler is an=
 awesome looper!  However . . . tonidude wrote:an option I am about to exer=
cise.

Ouch! You and many others I think!=20

This weird  item hasn't gotten much love=2C I don't suppose Korg will attem=
pt it's like ever  again. Humorously=2C I predict that in the future someon=
e will call it a classic -  they will certainly be rare=2C 'cause most of t=
hem were sent back to be melted  down and made into Monotrons.=20

Admittedly=2C mine has sat attracting dust  for months. The lack of true en=
velopes and loop points makes the keyboard mode  not so hot=2C but I kept t=
hinking what else has 36 triggers in such a small space  for so little (now=
) $$? While the MS was cooling it's heels on my shelf=2C I read  pretty muc=
h every word on this forum=2C and I began to realize that if I could use  i=
t in ways other than that for which it was designed=2C I could indeed find =
it  useful.=20

The 8x8 measures looping (or however you set it up=2C it could be  more!) i=
s not too shabby - lack of real time undo is a drag=2C but if you monitor  =
input on key 37=2C you can replace a bum loop. Or just mute the bad track=
=2C and try  on one of the other 7. In my stuff I simply embrace bad notes!=
 The tempo synced  effects are a total hoot - lots of performance fun to be=
 had there. I am likely  going to install a footswitch to engage the sample=
 button=2C and I may try to swap  the write and mute buttons wiring (so I c=
an mute with one hand). But despite  many perplexing design decisions on bo=
th products I find that I am creating a  huge mess of interesting & inspiri=
ng sound with these gizmos - stuff I sure  couldn't do before I obtained th=
em. And audiences could care less about how you  we make our noise=2C to th=
em its all magic.=20

When the religious wars begin=2C  and the power grid goes down=2C our acous=
tic guitars are all that will work  anyway=2C so if you ditch the MS you ma=
y want to get yourself one of those!=20

Ciao!
_________________

 From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool
Date: Fri=2C 30 Nov 2012 15:59:38 +0100





Yes. I have an MS too. ANd I do not touch it ever. Actually=2C having the o=
ctatrack and the Kaoss Pad I was quite sure about selling it.The reason why=
 I am not selling it yet is that at first I would have liked at least to tr=
y it out :) ANd that I have a midi keyboard of 49 keys=2C and I think that =
sometimes I may need a little one=2C and this has got no transpose but=2C w=
ell=2C may work.I like the mode where you can slice=2C I mean=2C record som=
ething in many different keys in sequence=2C so that you have the first 2 s=
econds in the first key=2C the other 2 seconds on the second key etc.The Oc=
tatrack does it too=2C but I still am not sure how it works there...
I will try something in the future now that I will have time :)
Thanks!

> From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Fri=2C 30 Nov 2012 14:44:12 +0100
> Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool
>=20
>=20
> Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mmm=2C a bit complicated. The loops must have all the same length=2C ri=
ght? THe same of the first one.
> Hi Sergio=2C
>=20
> That's what he's using in this case=2C yes.
> The pedal is just to "arm" recording'=2C then you have to press the key=20
> on which to record. As he doesn't want to do it by hand=2C he has=20
> prepared a 2 bars pattern as a "container" of "empty" slots=20
> (note-on/note-off). Each slots is indeed 2 bars long (or almost so as=20
> the note-off is a bit before the note-on when the pattern restarts).
> He could have choosen some note as 1/4=2C 1/8=2C or whatever and any=20
> pattern he likes. It's a bit like using an MPC=2C preparing the sequence
> (midi) then only adding the sound later.
> The sequence is just needed to trigger the recording and then trigger=20
> the newly recorded sample. The MS has several sampling modes and he's=20
> using "sampling triggered by a note for a given amount of time=20
> (2bars)."
> =20
> > Or well=2C surely not more=2C or it happens what happened with the last=
 loop to him.WHat if while preparing the slots you press the key less time =
than the first loop's length?
>=20
> With this technique the loop will be shorter but still retriggered=20
> every 2 bars by its note-on event so still in sync.
> You can do stutter effects if you like or do "replace" like in=20
> EDP/LPx=2C then change the pattern for other effects. The difference is=20
> that you can do this on 36 "tracks".
>=20
> So=2C there is no way to just press play and start recording and press=20
> again to stop recording and start playing=2C deciding on your own the=20
> length of each loop?
> >
> you can not do REC/PLAY=2C no. Its REC/STOP/PLAY but there are other=20
> modes (gate mode) where you can decide the length of course. It's a=20
> nice way to do quick multisampling. Just connect an external module=20
> via midi and record it's output. ARM sampling=2C play a "scale" on the=20
> MS keyboard=3B it will trigger the sound module and sample at the same=20
> time while the key is down.
>=20
> I haven't touch my MS for a while=2C but this video gave me the envy to=20
> start again.
>=20
> Ben
>=20
>=20
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.and press the record button....found this on the korg forums....a lil date=
d=2C bot not too old...<br><BR><table class=3D"ecxforumline" border=3D"0" c=
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=2C doubt not that the microSampler  can be quite formidable! <br><br>It to=
ok me a while to get my head around it=2C  but with the help of some amazin=
g folks around here=2C I've been having a blast  doing live looping on the =
MS. I'm nearly ready to ditch my soundcard and netbook  running ableton for=
 live shows. <br><br>Here's the set up: guitar and bass into  sansamps=2C a=
/b switch=2C into the line in of a Kaossillator pro=2C with acoustic  guita=
r into the mic in (the KPro is a good little mixer=2C with a few knobs for =
 volume!). KPro outputs into a Boss Slicer=2C into the microSampler. <br><b=
r>On the  microSampler the first 16 keys have drum loops=2C the next 12 get=
 silly vocal  snippets (like "Adventures in stereo!" from an Admiral stereo=
 demonstration LP)=2C  and the remaining 8 keys are for looping. <br><br>I =
have the sequencer loaded  with midi files (created in ableton) which trigg=
er the 8 loopers and one of the  drum loops for 8 measures (including key 1=
6=2C which is loaded with a silent  sample). So once I have a few loops goi=
ng=2C I can change the drum loop with the  sequence selector. (For details =
on how the sequencer can initiate auto looping  look around this forum) <br=
><br>Of course=2C the 8 looping tracks are all 8  measures long=2C but for =
the stuff I am doing it's fine - and pretty terrific as  compared to the an=
emic looping available on the KPro. And since its all midi'd  up=2C I can a=
lways throw short KPro loops on top (as well as the looping ability  of the=
 Slicer!). Changing the drum beats on the fly=2C and muting/unmuting gives =
a  great deal of arrangement ability. Setting the microSampler fx to audio =
in gives  me a good bit of fx madness to play with as well. <br><br>Ok - it=
 is amazing  fun=2C and the audio (even at 24 &amp=3B mono) sounds great. B=
ut the one persistent  difficulty I have encountered has to do with the lit=
tle gap in the midi file  notes necessary to trigger auto loop. I first tri=
ed no gap=2C and it would not  trigger the sample the first time around=2C =
but it would the second time. This is  doable - just keep playing for an ad=
ditional 8 measures=2C and then the loop  created previously kicks in (whic=
h feels a bit odd=2C but can sound cool). So I  began widening the gap of t=
he midi notes=2C and eventually got it to reliably  trigger automatically a=
t loop completion. Great! But no=2C at different tempos=2C it  again failed=
 to trigger until the second pass=2C boo hiss. <br><br>So the question  I h=
ave been building up to is this: has anyone been able to set up a template =
 midi file that will auto loop reliably at any tempo? What have others dete=
rmined  regarding the gaps between midi notes? Anyone else working similarl=
y=2C and what  have y'all figured out? Thanks for all the help so  far!<br>=
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=3D"1">   Post subject: Re: microSampler is an awesome looper!  However . .=
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<tr><td colSpan=3D"2"><font size=3D"2"><span class=3D"ecxpostbody">Sorry=2C=
 no help from here. From what I  understand=2C your solution is the best po=
ssible. If you make the patterns/loops  within Microkorg=2C you not only ha=
ve to trigger them a bit after one=2C you also  have to make them shorter t=
han 1 bar so as to not spill on to the second bar  (creating a one bar play=
=2C one bar silence pattern). <br><br>Just venting with  you to share my fr=
ustration. I also have the Kaossilator Pro which is a mediocre  looper (lot=
s of noise=2C only 4 bars!) I really bought the Microsampler more for  loop=
s than one-shots but on that account it's proven a real let-down. <br><br>F=
ortunately I have the right to return it for a full refund=2C an option I  =
am about to exercise.</span><span class=3D"ecxgensmall"></span></font></td>=
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<br><br><font size=3D"1">Joined: 10 Jun 2011<br>Posts: 23<br>Location:  Buf=
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esome looper!  However . . .</font></span></td><td vAlign=3D"top"><a href=
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=3D"2">tonidude wrote:</font></b></span></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"ecxquote=
">an option I am about to exercise.</td></tr></tbody></table><span class=3D=
"ecxpostbody"><br><br><font size=3D"2">Ouch! You and many others I think! <=
br><br>This weird  item hasn't gotten much love=2C I don't suppose Korg wil=
l attempt it's like ever  again. Humorously=2C I predict that in the future=
 someone will call it a classic -  they will certainly be rare=2C 'cause mo=
st of them were sent back to be melted  down and made into Monotrons. <br><=
br>Admittedly=2C mine has sat attracting dust  for months. The lack of true=
 envelopes and loop points makes the keyboard mode  not so hot=2C but I kep=
t thinking what else has 36 triggers in such a small space  for so little (=
now) $$? While the MS was cooling it's heels on my shelf=2C I read  pretty =
much every word on this forum=2C and I began to realize that if I could use=
  it in ways other than that for which it was designed=2C I could indeed fi=
nd it  useful. <br><br>The 8x8 measures looping (or however you set it up=
=2C it could be  more!) is not too shabby - lack of real time undo is a dra=
g=2C but if you monitor  input on key 37=2C you can replace a bum loop. Or =
just mute the bad track=2C and try  on one of the other 7. In my stuff I si=
mply embrace bad notes! The tempo synced  effects are a total hoot - lots o=
f performance fun to be had there. I am likely  going to install a footswit=
ch to engage the sample button=2C and I may try to swap  the write and mute=
 buttons wiring (so I can mute with one hand). But despite  many perplexing=
 design decisions on both products I find that I am creating a  huge mess o=
f interesting &amp=3B inspiring sound with these gizmos - stuff I sure  cou=
ldn't do before I obtained them. And audiences could care less about how yo=
u  we make our noise=2C to them its all magic. <br><br>When the religious w=
ars begin=2C  and the power grid goes down=2C our acoustic guitars are all =
that will work  anyway=2C so if you ditch the MS you may want to get yourse=
lf one of those! <br><br>Ciao!<br>_________________<br></font><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.thefreakness.com/" target=3D"_blank"></a></span></td></tr></tbody>=
</table></td></tr></tbody></table><br>&nbsp=3B<BR><div><div id=3D"SkyDriveP=
laceholder"></div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: simpliflying@gmail.com<br>T=
o: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Subject: RE: Korg Microsampler as=
 a looping tool<br>Date: Fri=2C 30 Nov 2012 15:59:38 +0100<br><br>

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Yes. I have an MS too. ANd I do not touch it ever. Actually=2C having the o=
ctatrack and the Kaoss Pad I was quite sure about selling it.<div>The reaso=
n why I am not selling it yet is that at first I would have liked at least =
to try it out :) ANd that I have a midi keyboard of 49 keys=2C and I think =
that sometimes I may need a little one=2C and this has got no transpose but=
=2C well=2C may work.</div><div>I like the mode where you can slice=2C I me=
an=2C record something in many different keys in sequence=2C so that you ha=
ve the first 2 seconds in the first key=2C the other 2 seconds on the secon=
d key etc.</div><div>The Octatrack does it too=2C but I still am not sure h=
ow it works there...</div><div><br></div><div>I will try something in the f=
uture now that I will have time :)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!<br><br>=
<div><div id=3D"ecxSkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>&gt=3B From: benoitruelle@yah=
oo.fr<br>&gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt=3B Date: Fri=
=2C 30 Nov 2012 14:44:12 +0100<br>&gt=3B Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as =
a looping tool<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Sergio Girardi &lt=3Bsimplif=
lying@gmail.com&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Mmm=2C a bit complicated. The=
 loops must have all the same length=2C right? THe same of the first one.<b=
r>&gt=3B Hi Sergio=2C<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B That's what he's using in this c=
ase=2C yes.<br>&gt=3B The pedal is just to "arm" recording'=2C then you hav=
e to press the key <br>&gt=3B on which to record. As he doesn't want to do =
it by hand=2C he has <br>&gt=3B prepared a 2 bars pattern as a "container" =
of "empty" slots <br>&gt=3B (note-on/note-off). Each slots is indeed 2 bars=
 long (or almost so as <br>&gt=3B the note-off is a bit before the note-on =
when the pattern restarts).<br>&gt=3B He could have choosen some note as 1/=
4=2C 1/8=2C or whatever and any <br>&gt=3B pattern he likes. It's a bit lik=
e using an MPC=2C preparing the sequence<br>&gt=3B (midi) then only adding =
the sound later.<br>&gt=3B The sequence is just needed to trigger the recor=
ding and then trigger <br>&gt=3B the newly recorded sample. The MS has seve=
ral sampling modes and he's <br>&gt=3B using "sampling triggered by a note =
for a given amount of time <br>&gt=3B (2bars)."<br>&gt=3B  <br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B Or well=2C surely not more=2C or it happens what happened with the last=
 loop to him.WHat if while preparing the slots you press the key less time =
than the first loop's length?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B With this technique the =
loop will be shorter but still retriggered <br>&gt=3B every 2 bars by its n=
ote-on event so still in sync.<br>&gt=3B You can do stutter effects if you =
like or do "replace" like in <br>&gt=3B EDP/LPx=2C then change the pattern =
for other effects. The difference is <br>&gt=3B that you can do this on 36 =
"tracks".<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B So=2C there is no way to just press play and=
 start recording and press <br>&gt=3B again to stop recording and start pla=
ying=2C deciding on your own the <br>&gt=3B length of each loop?<br>&gt=3B =
&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B you can not do REC/PLAY=2C no. Its REC/STOP/PLAY but there=
 are other <br>&gt=3B modes (gate mode) where you can decide the length of =
course. It's a <br>&gt=3B nice way to do quick multisampling. Just connect =
an external module <br>&gt=3B via midi and record it's output. ARM sampling=
=2C play a "scale" on the <br>&gt=3B MS keyboard=3B it will trigger the sou=
nd module and sample at the same <br>&gt=3B time while the key is down.<br>=
&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I haven't touch my MS for a while=2C but this video gave =
me the envy to <br>&gt=3B start again.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Ben<br>&gt=3B <=
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http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicejam/ is the best i have seen so far=
. not sure how system intensive it is as far as Ipad1 use goes=2C but it sh=
ould be ok.
 From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Fri=2C 30 Nov 2012 23:28:44 +0100
Subject: Voice apps?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Im looking for the Rolls Royce of Vocal processing iPad apps.=20
I want 4 specific  things.

1. Harmonies (choirs and the stupid auto tune)
2. A Passable ethereal reverb (long=2C twinkly and clear)
3. A rudimentary looper... No need to synch (cant anyway=2C Im using it wit=
h hardware=2C no lappys involved (tho I do have a missing link=2C but that =
works the wrong way))


4. I want it all to work on an iPad1

I WANT IT ALL IN ONE APP AND I WANT IT NOW!!

DELIVER INTERNET... DELIVER!!!

Regards

MArk


(sorry... been dealing with annoying teenagers (20 something teenagers actu=
ally) for a few days..)


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ov 2012 23:28:44 +0100<br>Subject: Voice apps?<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com<br><br>Im looking for the Rolls Royce of Vocal processing iP=
ad apps. <br>I want 4 specific&nbsp=3B things.<br><br>1. Harmonies (choirs =
and the stupid auto tune)<br>2. A Passable ethereal reverb (long=2C twinkly=
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Im using it with hardware=2C no lappys involved (tho I do have a missing li=
nk=2C but that works the wrong way))<br>

4. I want it all to work on an iPad1<br><br>I WANT IT ALL IN ONE APP AND I =
WANT IT NOW!!<br><br>DELIVER INTERNET... DELIVER!!!<br><br>Regards<br><br>M=
Ark<br><br><br>(sorry... been dealing with annoying teenagers (20 something=
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Thanks... but isnt that JUST a looper? Or does it have some
pitching/harmony functions too?


On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicejam/ is the best i have seen so
> far. not sure how system intensive it is as far as Ipad1 use goes, but it
> should be ok.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mark@markfrancombe.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:28:44 +0100
> Subject: Voice apps?
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> Im looking for the Rolls Royce of Vocal processing iPad apps.
> I want 4 specific  things.
>
> 1. Harmonies (choirs and the stupid auto tune)
> 2. A Passable ethereal reverb (long, twinkly and clear)
> 3. A rudimentary looper... No need to synch (cant anyway, Im using it with
> hardware, no lappys involved (tho I do have a missing link, but that works
> the wrong way))
> 4. I want it all to work on an iPad1
>
> I WANT IT ALL IN ONE APP AND I WANT IT NOW!!
>
> DELIVER INTERNET... DELIVER!!!
>
> Regards
>
> MArk
>
>
> (sorry... been dealing with annoying teenagers (20 something teenagers
> actually) for a few days..)
>
> --
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> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
>
>


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e">On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM, phillip wilson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:phillwilson@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">phillwilson@hotm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<a href=3D"http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicejam/" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicejam/</a>=A0is the best i have seen =
so far. not sure=A0how system intensive it is as far as Ipad1 use goes,=A0b=
ut it should be ok.<br>

=A0<br><div><div></div><hr>From: <a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" =
target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.com</a><br>Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:2=
8:44 +0100<br>Subject: Voice apps?<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight=
@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
</a><div>

<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>Im looking for the Rolls Royce of Vocal processin=
g iPad apps. <br>I want 4 specific=A0 things.<br><br>1. Harmonies (choirs a=
nd the stupid auto tune)<br>2. A Passable ethereal reverb (long, twinkly an=
d clear)<br>

3. A rudimentary looper... No need to synch (cant anyway, Im using it with =
hardware, no lappys involved (tho I do have a missing link, but that works =
the wrong way))<br>

4. I want it all to work on an iPad1<br><br>I WANT IT ALL IN ONE APP AND I =
WANT IT NOW!!<br><br>DELIVER INTERNET... DELIVER!!!<br><br>Regards<br><br>M=
Ark<br><br><br>(sorry... been dealing with annoying teenagers (20 something=
 teenagers actually) for a few days..)<br clear=3D"all">



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On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:45 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Thanks... but isnt that JUST a looper? Or does it have some pitching/harmony
> functions too?


Invest three minutes to check their web site! TC Helicon are known as
the leading voice box brand for pitching and harmony mock-up. The
other day I tested a stomp box that you sing and play guitar through
and this box listens to the guitar and analyses what chords you are
playing and then it pitches your voice mic signal into three note
chords following the guitar. A guy played Shine On Your Crazy Diamond
(thank god he did not do Hotel California!!!) and it sounded totally
sweet. It's programmable so one could probably do Nag-Nag-Nag in
clusters as well ;-)  Just one product from the top of my head. Check
their iPad thing, they have all features listed on the site and a lot
of demo videos.

Greetings from Sweden

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I've not used it yet myself=2C but I can see that it says there are in app =
purchases of their "singles" stompbox line emulations=2C and I know they do=
 both a reverb and an auto tune one (those are pictured) it seems reasonabl=
e that they might be releasing others and i own their Harmony G pedal which=
 is hands down amazing in real life..
 The other option that i can think of is wait for audiobus to come out and =
then take your pick from a nice harmony app a nice convolution reverb app a=
nd then pipe it through to loopy hd...not sure the ipad 1 would do it witho=
ut some memory issues but it might be worth a try?From: mark@markfrancombe.=
com
Date: Sat=2C 1 Dec 2012 23:45:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Voice apps?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Thanks... but isnt that JUST a looper? Or does it have some pitching/harmon=
y functions too?

On Sat=2C Dec 1=2C 2012 at 11:17 PM=2C phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.=
com> wrote:






http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicejam/ is the best i have seen so far=
. not sure how system intensive it is as far as Ipad1 use goes=2C but it sh=
ould be ok.


=20
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Fri=2C 30 Nov 2012 23:28:44 +0100
Subject: Voice apps?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com



Im looking for the Rolls Royce of Vocal processing iPad apps.=20
I want 4 specific  things.

1. Harmonies (choirs and the stupid auto tune)
2. A Passable ethereal reverb (long=2C twinkly and clear)


3. A rudimentary looper... No need to synch (cant anyway=2C Im using it wit=
h hardware=2C no lappys involved (tho I do have a missing link=2C but that =
works the wrong way))


4. I want it all to work on an iPad1

I WANT IT ALL IN ONE APP AND I WANT IT NOW!!

DELIVER INTERNET... DELIVER!!!

Regards

MArk


(sorry... been dealing with annoying teenagers (20 something teenagers actu=
ally) for a few days..)




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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com



www.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094



http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/





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www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com

http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no


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seen so far. not sure&nbsp=3Bhow system intensive it is as far as Ipad1 use=
 goes=2C&nbsp=3Bbut it should be ok.<br>

&nbsp=3B<br><div><div></div><hr>From: <a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.=
com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a><br>Date: Fri=2C 30 Nov 2012 23:28:44 +0100<=
br>Subject: Voice apps?<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-de=
light.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div>

<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>Im looking for the Rolls Royce of Vocal processin=
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nkly and clear)<br>

3. A rudimentary looper... No need to synch (cant anyway=2C Im using it wit=
h hardware=2C no lappys involved (tho I do have a missing link=2C but that =
works the wrong way))<br>

4. I want it all to work on an iPad1<br><br>I WANT IT ALL IN ONE APP AND I =
WANT IT NOW!!<br><br>DELIVER INTERNET... DELIVER!!!<br><br>Regards<br><br>M=
Ark<br><br><br>(sorry... been dealing with annoying teenagers (20 something=
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. 12.04.12 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents THE RETURN OF
THE dreamSTATE DRONE CYCLE 2012 . Part Twelve . (C#)
featuring dreamSTATE with SORCERER plus sets by
DARREN COPELAND (performing John Cage's "Four^6")
+ S E V A + projections by GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS
@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market
     just south of College . Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     Tues. Dec. 4th . Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 8:15 . $6

Thanks to Jeff Howard, we'll have the PiNG LiVE STREAM
flowing again at 8:15PM on Tuesday December 4th for
those of you who can't make it live and in person.
http://www.livestream.com/theambientping

. 8:15 . DARREN COPELAND . To celebrate the dreamSTATE
12th Anniversary Drone Cycle, Darren Copeland will perform
a version of John Cage's Four6 where Max/MSP is automated
to make the creative choices in interpreting Cage's four part
score. For this performance, the 12 sounds designated for
each performer in Four have been edited by Darren Copeland
from archival recordings of dreamSTATE's previous 11 drone
performances. The 12th sound derives from a mystery source.
http://www.darrencopeland.net/

. 9.00 . dreamSTATE with SORCERER . The cycle wouldn't be
complete without some didgeridoo in the mix so for the final
drone in the cycle, dreamSTATE invited SORCERER (Beau
Lukes) to bring along his didgies and some percussive toys
to the C Sharp drone. Drones created with wind and hands
and augmented by electronics will be a fine way to
close out the 2012 Cycle.   http://www.dreamstate.to

. 10:00 . ~  S E V A  ~  (Sorcerer + Sylken + Michael Holcer)
Moving the Space ... Arriving for TAP's final 2012 performance
before "the end of the world as we know it," this new trio will
be performing their first gig at THE AMBiENT PiNG.
SORCERER (Beau Lukes) has played hand percussion
for over 20 years, and the Didgeridoo for 15 years. He works
primarily in electronic landscapes favoring Ambient with a tribal
edge; but also works in Electronica, Dance & Industrial and has
produced electronic music in its many forms for many people
and worked professionally as a studio engineer & producer
since 1996. His latest works can be heard in his collective
project The Eclipse Project. http://www.eclipsemusicproject.com
SYLKEN (Eric Hopper), a veteran of PiNG gigs brings his
space-orch foundation to the trio, blending dreamy pads,
emo-sensuous solos and edgy atmos. Eric has created /
produced several ambient CD projects over the last dozen
years and is also a member of the trio SADU.
MICHAEL HOLCER merges his ambi-grooves and sonic events
to enhance the trio's creative sound sculptures. Michael has
been making musical noises for nearly 30 years, growing up
in Poland on the Berlin School of Electronic Music (those
hypnotic 30-minute sequences and arpeggios) of the seventies
and eighties.
This collective experience evokes smooth classic elements
of ambient synth textures, atmospheres and rhythms,
enticing the listener's mind to float, relax, and groove to
their space-tribal-vibes. Enjoy !!

. GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . What more can we say about the
Chaotic duo Stephen Lindsey and Eric Siegerman? Their light
paintings are a huge part of the PiNG's and dreamSTATE's
iconography, so how about we just say thanks guys. You've
done an awesome job rising to the challenge this year.
http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

COMiNG SOON:

. Tuesday January 22nd 2013 . THE PiNG presents
THE dreamSTATE DRONE CYCLE . CODA . (C)
featuring dreamSTATE with PiNGERS A PLENTY DRONiNG
plus projections by GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS
@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market
     just south of College . Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     PiNG doors open at 8 . 3 hour drone starts at 8:00 . $6

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

--->  FREE MP3 --- THE PATH  <---

Here's a new dreamSTATE drone piece woven from some of
their parts in the November Drone Cycle concert, which had
been extracted for Darren Copeland's John Cage performance.
http://www.dreamstate.to/audio/The_Path.mp3

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Ambient CDs and DVDs (the perfect holiday stocking stuffer- geez
someone stop me now!) will also be available during Tuesday's
show at the ping things table.  http://www.pingthings.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of
audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG
presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic,
soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo,
darkwave and experimental artists from around the world.
http://www.theambientping.com

The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates
and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events.
Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com

We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG.
http://www.facebook.com

ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things:
http://www.pingthings.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or
appropriate newsgroups. Thanks.

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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121129.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

Show #817 November 29, 2012.

WDIY Playlist:
http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=11-29-2012

RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Palancar. The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Serenetatis" on the Earth Mantra netlabel.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#nov

I also played music by the artists who will appear at the Soundscapes
Concert Series on December 2.http://soundscapes.us


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Robert Schroeder     Ferro OXID           Ferro OXID (Spheric Music)
Ray Carl Daye        Endless Departure    Rapid Ear Movement (Magnatune)
Mythos               Filter Sequence      Surround Sound evolution
                        WahFlute             (Sireena)
Mystified            To Breathe Is To     Breathe Beyond (Parkbench)
                        Realize
Hunter and Harrison  Gas to Plazma -      Phase 1 (Music with Space)
                        Ionization *
Palancar             [twenty july]        Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             Mare Tranquillitqtis Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             Promontorium         Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
                        Heraclides


12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Palancar             Oceanus Procellarum  Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             Terra Nivium         Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             Reiner Gamma         Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             Mare Nectaris        Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             Sinus Iridium        Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             Valles Schroteri     Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             Montes Apenninus     Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)
Palancar             [fourteen december]  Serenetatis (Earth Mantra)


1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Fanger &
Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog Overdose 3" on
Manikin Records.http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-12-06

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

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Actually I took a bit longer than that... They are not clear... to me ata
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not be ness as I can at a pinch just loop with my main looper.. just was
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Thank for feedback about the "In app purchase"  Phil.. maybe thats a
hint... buy the looper and add the reverb and harmony... Will check it out
now... (may just d/l it.. cept i have no wifi at home...)

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<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Per Boysen =
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Invest three minutes to check their web site!</blockquote></div><br>Actuall=
y I took a bit longer than that... They are not clear... to me ata least.. =
Im only looking at iPad apps cos of price, Its a very short use issue, no n=
ed to buy hardware this time.. Actually the looper part MIGHT not be ness a=
s I can at a pinch just loop with my main looper.. just was hoping for some=
thing a little &quot;more self contained&quot;-</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Thank for f=
eedback about the &quot;In app purchase&quot; =A0Phil.. maybe thats a hint.=
.. buy the looper and add the reverb and harmony... Will check it out now..=
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"User Reviews" at Harmony Central is a good way to find out abut most
gear that has been around for a while:
http://www.harmonycentral.com/user-reviews

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Invest three minutes to check their web site!
>
>
> Actually I took a bit longer than that... They are not clear... to me ata
> least.. Im only looking at iPad apps cos of price, Its a very short use
> issue, no ned to buy hardware this time.. Actually the looper part MIGHT not
> be ness as I can at a pinch just loop with my main looper.. just was hoping
> for something a little "more self contained"-
>
> Thank for feedback about the "In app purchase"  Phil.. maybe thats a hint...
> buy the looper and add the reverb and harmony... Will check it out now...
> (may just d/l it.. cept i have no wifi at home...)
>
> --
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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121201.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html

Show #238 December 1, 2012.

On today's show, I played music by artists who will be playing at area
concerts; the Soundscapes Concert Series and EventHorizon.
December 2: http://soundscapes.us
December 7: http://eventhorizonseries.org


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
VA [Invisible        Liberation           Sequences No.21
   Universe]
VA [Robert Wittek]   House of Spirits     Sequences No.21
Genetique            A Beautiful Moment   Submerge (none)
Robert Schroeder     Nature Processed     Ferro OXID (Spheric)
Chuck van Zyl        Time                 MemorySpace (Synkronos)
Chuck van Zyl        All Souls' Day       MemorySpace (Synkronos)
Hunter and Harrison  Solid Returns to     Phase 1 (Music With Space)
                        Liquid - Melting *


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Mark Pinkus          Japanese Snowflakes  Travel Light (none)
Nathan Pacheco       Nessun Dorma         Nathan Pacheco (Disney Pearl)
VA [Masako]          Glastenbury, VT      The Gathering (West River)
Mehran               Subterranea          Subterranea (none)
John Williams        Freedom's Call       Lincoln (Sony)


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Flying Colors        Infinite Fire        Island of the Lost Keyboards
                                             (Radiant)
John Galcano         1000                 Real Life Is Meeting (Doone)
Alan Morse           Cold Fusion *        Four O'clock and Hysteria
                                             (InsideOut)


  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill Fox
========================================================================
Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4.
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html

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Just a reminder:
Sunday, December 2, 8:00 pm, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to 
the Nazareth Center for the Arts (30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 
18064) with Hunter and Harrison (New Jersey) and Genetique (Philadelphia).

Details are at http://soundscapes.us

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Quite recently I've stumbled across an interesting site run by Norwegian 
artist Tone Ã…se (http://www.toneaase.no).
You will find there her research project which focuses on live 
electronics including looping.
This is a serious and vast source, so I must admit I haven't read it 
through,
but it certainly is worth looking at.

Best regards,
MichaÅ‚

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Thanks for the response Matthias,

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:

> Echoloop will not have a IAC driver so soon (seems you apreciate that :-)
> it can send tempo to the host in Bidule
> not sure whether AudioMulch has such funcionality...
>

Well Audio Mulch has the possiblility to follow an external midi clock,
hence the IAC bus... maybe i can find a workaround for that?

But how should I set up for running 2 instances of Echoloop in the same
host for synchonised looping? Is the best way to set the temp in the host
and then set both instances to IN?
This is a possible workflow for me, but I prefer that my first loop would
set the temp for all.

Can you just explain the functionality f the various sync setting, and Im
surte I figure out the best for me from that.

I of course understand IN,OUT and other EDP types, but HOST IN etc... (ell
thats sync to host of course.. but.. hmmm.. Maybe I know it after all!)

:-)

Nice that it works exactly like EDP tho... complete with seamlessly
reacting to my previous pedal assignments from EDP.

Mark



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<div class=3D"gmail_extra">Thanks for the response Matthias,<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Matthias Grob <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">matil=
ists@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Echoloop will not have a IAC driver so =
soon (seems you apreciate that :-)</div><div>it can send tempo to the host =
in Bidule</div>

<div>not sure whether AudioMulch has such funcionality...</div></blockquote=
></div><br>Well Audio Mulch has the possiblility to follow an external midi=
 clock, hence the IAC bus... maybe i can find a workaround for that?</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">But how sho=
uld I set up for running 2 instances of Echoloop in the same host for synch=
onised looping? Is the best way to set the temp in the host and then set bo=
th instances to IN?</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra">This is a possible workflow for me, but I prefer=
 that my first loop would set the temp for all.</div><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Can you just explain the function=
ality f the various sync setting, and Im surte I figure out the best for me=
 from that.</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I of course=
 understand IN,OUT and other EDP types, but HOST IN etc... (ell thats sync =
to host of course.. but.. hmmm.. Maybe I know it after all!)</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra">

<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">:-)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Nice that it works exactly like EDP tho.=
.. complete with seamlessly reacting to my previous pedal assignments from =
EDP.</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Mark</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D=
"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255);background-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style=3D"font-family:=
trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.markfra=
ncombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,0,51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao=
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51)">

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=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)"=
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lank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@=
N00/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/</a><br><=
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Hi Mark

Audio mulch website says:


You can route MIDI messages in the Patcher Pane by connecting MIDI patch cords from a MIDI output on one contraption to a MIDI input on another contraption. MIDI routing is usually used in conjunction with VST and (on Macintosh) Audio Unit plugins. 

Which you of course know, but there may be other readers of the thread.


I'd advise you to put a midi monitor on the midi out of the master EDP.
I'm not 100% sure the midi clock out is behaving right.

andy






mark francombe wrote:

> But how should I set up for running 2 instances of Echoloop in the same 
> host for synchonised looping? Is the best way to set the temp in the 
> host and then set both instances to IN?
> This is a possible workflow for me, but I prefer that my first loop 
> would set the temp for all.
> 
> Can you just explain the functionality f the various sync setting, and 
> Im surte I figure out the best for me from that.
> 
> I of course understand IN,OUT and other EDP types, but HOST IN etc... 
> (ell thats sync to host of course.. but.. hmmm.. Maybe I know it after all!)
> 
> :-)
> 
> Nice that it works exactly like EDP tho... complete with seamlessly 
> reacting to my previous pedal assignments from EDP.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> /_Mark Francombe_/
> www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com/>
> www.ordoabkhao.com <http://www.ordoabkhao.com/>
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no/>
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
> 

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> mark francombe wrote:
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>> Nice that it works exactly like EDP tho... complete with seamlessly
>> reacting to my previous pedal assignments from EDP.


Nice to see that comment, as it in fact is a major concept of Echoloop!

Greetings from Sweden

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(http://www.toneaase.no).


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Hi folks,

Visual Music LIVE continues at Outpost 186 on Saturday  at 8 PM.

Doctor T and the Eclectics

Doctor T -- Video mixing
Eric Zinman --Drums (that's right drums, not piano)
Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and voice
Michael Bloom  -- Table Guitar and bouzouki
Rick Scott -- Keyboard

Expect the unexpected-:)


Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA

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Who can find the LD list members in this very old video clip?  Will the real Worlds Collide please stand up?

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Daniel that's a great look back at you guys.  Impressive project, like the v=
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hence you all came in a sense, what became of Haiduk?

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Hoping some local Looper or synth geek can use this:

Excellent condition Harke 410 XL Aluminum cone bass speaker cabinet. Supe=
r
Clean, Super Low, Super LOUD. 400 freakin' watts and plays like butter at
lower levels as well. I've been running this with a Roland Bolt 60 head
and it is incredibly LOUD and clear. Ballz galore too.

FOUR super responsive 10" aluminum cone speakers and TWO Ports. This is
the CURRENT model (not the older inferior ones with less wattage, ports,
etc). Sells new for $400.

Features
- Dual-chamber, dual-ported cabinet
- 4 Hartke XL 10 in. aluminum-cone bass drivers
- Power Handling: 400 Watts @ 8 Ohms
- Frequency Response: 30 Hz to 5 kHz
- Parallel 1/4 in. inputs
- Covered HEAVY DUTY cabinet with two side recessed handles for easier
transport.
- Heavy duty Rubber covered corners. Built to LAST!

Reviews from actual users: http://www.zzounds.com/productreview--HTK410BX=
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Due to size Pickup in Phila PA  cash and carry. I'm right off 76 and 95
and four minutes from the Ben Franklin bridge with plenty of easy parking=
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Will even help you carry it to your car/van :)

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thanks fer lookin'
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good stuff!

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com>wrote:

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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5W172yUNw
>
>
> i spy with my little i.....YOUNG BILL WALKER, YOUNG GARY REGINA, the
> drummer did not look like YOUNG RICKEEEEEE WALKER
>
>  but if i were a betting man, i would say it was him before he started
> taking "old" pills.....do i win anything?????
>
>
>

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good stuff!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:09 =
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Really nice, I enjoyed it!

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:51 PM, eib halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5W172yUNw
>>
>>
>> i spy with my little i.....YOUNG BILL WALKER, YOUNG GARY REGINA, the
>> drummer did not look like YOUNG RICKEEEEEE WALKER
>>
>> but if i were a betting man, i would say it was him before he started
>> taking "old" pills.....do i win anything?????
>>
>>
>



-- 
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com

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That was just so wonderful!

On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Art Simon wrote:

> Really nice, I enjoyed it!
> 
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:51 PM, eib halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
>> good stuff!
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5W172yUNw
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i spy with my little i.....YOUNG BILL WALKER, YOUNG GARY REGINA, the
>>> drummer did not look like YOUNG RICKEEEEEE WALKER
>>> 
>>> but if i were a betting man, i would say it was him before he started
>>> taking "old" pills.....do i win anything?????
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> 

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> but if i were a betting man, i would say it was him before he started taking "old" pills.....do i win anything?????

Congratulations!  You have won a Worlds Collide CD!  Ah! But its out of print now.   Sorry.
Rick took those "old pills" because someone said they would make his hair turn purple! 

Daniel

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2012/12/04/166430924/a-100-guitar-makes-a-30-000-mile-odyssey

Would have made a great CT Collective project. 

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Hi there everyone,
one of the switches on my EFC-7 broke and I've been looking into getting a
replacement from Mouser or Jameco as suggested here >

http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html

They both ship from the US though, which means 20=80 of shipping costs. I w=
as
wondering if anyone had the same problem and found a  way to get the part
shipped from the EU (I'm in Germany).

Thanks in advance
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Hi there everyone,=A0<div>one of the switches on my=A0EFC-7 broke and I&#39=
;ve been looking into getting a replacement from Mouser or Jameco as sugges=
ted here &gt;=A0</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.loopers-del=
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ls/echoplex/echopedals.html</a><br>
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<div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance=A0</div><div>gio</div>

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I dont have to tell you how awesome this thing is,just ask around and go to=
 their website and watch some videos=0Atake this thing in your bag,plug it =
in directly into the board and you have the warmest tube amp ive ever heard=
 on a pedal=0Ano more worrying about heavy tube amps or never ending tweaki=
ng to get something it will never come close to it!=0A=0Ano digital simulat=
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i was looking for=0Aif you dont believe me,ask our x pert man Bill Walker=
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age.php=0A=0AMine comes with the x tra "LE switch" which cost x tra,but im =
telling you it was worth it!=0A=0Athe thing is like new,with original box e=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I dont hav=
e to tell you how awesome this thing is,just ask around and go to their web=
site and watch some videos</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f=
ont-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; backgrou=
nd-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>take this thing in your b=
ag,plug it in directly into the board and you have the warmest tube amp ive=
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size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-c=
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tube amps or never ending tweaking to get something it will never come clos=
e to it!<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px=
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al deal,i got sick of multi effectors and finally got what i was looking fo=
r</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-fami=
ly: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; fo=
nt-style: normal;"><span>if you dont believe me,ask our x pert man Bill Wal=
ker <br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; fo=
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sparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Mine comes with the x tra "LE switch" w=
hich cost x tra,but im telling you it was worth it!<br></span></div><div st=
yle=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,n=
ew york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><s=
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r></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-fam=
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b(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,se=
rif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>contact me o=
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radiospares 
CPC

...but surely you have electronic component shops in Germany?

andy

Gio Gio wrote:
> Hi there everyone, 
> one of the switches on my EFC-7 broke and I've been looking into getting 
> a replacement from Mouser or Jameco as suggested here > 
> 
> http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html
> 
> They both ship from the US though, which means 20€ of shipping costs. I 
> was wondering if anyone had the same problem and found a  way to get the 
> part shipped from the EU (I'm in Germany). 
> 
> Thanks in advance 
> gio

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I know it's a long shot, but I thought I'd mention on the list that  
I'm selling one of my vintage AC30s. It's a 1964 treble model. Details/ 
pics can be found here:


http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1176257

Thanks,

Jeff

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I have to ask...How much?
JD

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Details are in the link I provided, but the bottom line is $3500. I  
paid over $5500.

Thanks,

Jeff

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On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Antony Hequet wrote:

> where?

US, but I'll ship it anywhere at buyer's expense. It comes with an ATA  
flight case.

Thanks,

Jeff


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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Antony Hequet wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div><span>where?</span></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>US, but I'll ship it anywhere at buyer's expense. It comes with an ATA flight case.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><br></body></html>
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Jeff,

There are probably a lot of folks on this forum who can't read TGP =
Emporium posts. IIRC, you need to be a TGP member to access that page.

Probably best to post the full details here and links to the pix.

Philip


On Dec 6, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:

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> On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Antony Hequet wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: '64 AC30 For Sale
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> Jeff,
>
> There are probably a lot of folks on this forum who can't read TGP  
> Emporium posts. IIRC, you need to be a TGP member to access that page.
>
> Probably best to post the full details here and links to the pix.

Whoops....you're almost certainly right, Philip. Thanks!

Here's the description from TGP. Pics available upon request. My  
friend was hosting most of them, so if I can get the link from him,  
I'll post it.


-------------

FS: 1964 Vox AC30 T

This is copper panel, non-top-boost amp, Albion transformers, with  
original silver speakers. A rear top boost could certainly be added,  
if desired. But, imo, with a Treble amp, there's really no need. It  
already has all of the chimey top end anyone would want, and a boost  
pedal in front of it would goose it just enough to give the classic  
Top Boost sound in spades. (In fact, I highly, highly recommend the  
brand new Catilinbred Galileo pedal for that very purpose. It kills!!  
I just tried it with my other Voxes,and it was jaw dropping.) This amp  
sounds incredible by just plugging any guitar straight into the  
Brilliant channel. And the Normal channel is no slouch either.

When I bought this amp a couple years ago, it was touted as "the best  
AC30 we've ever heard". Hyperbole aside, it really *is* that good. The  
store I bought it from is Emerald City Guitars in Seattle. I spoke at  
length to a tech out there who went through the amp, *who is not  
employed by the store* (which was key for me), and he told me it  
indeed was the best AC30 he'd ever heard, and he's worked on hundreds.  
He basically said, "Congrats...you'll own the best AC30 anywhere if  
you buy this thing." So, I bit the bullet and grabbed it. I would urge  
anyone who wants to buy this amp to call and talk to him. He'd  
probably remember it.

I probably overpaid for it at the time in my enthusiasm and haste, and  
I certainly did based on today's market. I think I paid $5500, which  
is quite high. But I'd take $3500 for it now.

So, the obvious question: If it sounds so damn good, why would I sell  
it?

Well, for one thing, I have 3 other JMI AC30s and two modded AC30  
reissues. After doing some A/B-ing, I think my '63 AC30 (also with  
Albions) with the rear top boost added on sounds very close to this  
'64 Treble amp. Both amps sound out of this world. If I didn't have to  
part with either of them, I wouldn't. However, I've recently bought  
several guitars, which means some tough decisions need to be made  
about what gear goes and what stays.

Every guitar I throw at this amp sounds terrific--and I have them all  
(humbuckers, single coils, P 90s; Strat, Tele, Gretsch, Rickenbacker,  
Les Paul, 335...you name it).

I also have a used flight case I would throw in for shipping.

I can send more pics, of course, to interested buyers. Contact me here  
or directly at jcshirke AT frontier DOT com

Thanks,

Jeff

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You're in Seattle, Jeff?
I would like to see some pix.
Thanks
richard sales
www.glasswing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.goodnaturefarms.com











On Dec 5, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:

>=20
>> Jeff,
>>=20
>> There are probably a lot of folks on this forum who can't read TGP =
Emporium posts. IIRC, you need to be a TGP member to access that page.
>>=20
>> Probably best to post the full details here and links to the pix.
>=20
> Whoops....you're almost certainly right, Philip. Thanks!
>=20
> Here's the description from TGP. Pics available upon request. My =
friend was hosting most of them, so if I can get the link from him, I'll =
post it.
>=20
>=20
> -------------
>=20
> FS: 1964 Vox AC30 T
>=20
> This is copper panel, non-top-boost amp, Albion transformers, with =
original silver speakers. A rear top boost could certainly be added, if =
desired. But, imo, with a Treble amp, there's really no need. It already =
has all of the chimey top end anyone would want, and a boost pedal in =
front of it would goose it just enough to give the classic Top Boost =
sound in spades. (In fact, I highly, highly recommend the brand new =
Catilinbred Galileo pedal for that very purpose. It kills!! I just tried =
it with my other Voxes,and it was jaw dropping.) This amp sounds =
incredible by just plugging any guitar straight into the Brilliant =
channel. And the Normal channel is no slouch either.
>=20
> When I bought this amp a couple years ago, it was touted as "the best =
AC30 we've ever heard". Hyperbole aside, it really *is* that good. The =
store I bought it from is Emerald City Guitars in Seattle. I spoke at =
length to a tech out there who went through the amp, *who is not =
employed by the store* (which was key for me), and he told me it indeed =
was the best AC30 he'd ever heard, and he's worked on hundreds. He =
basically said, "Congrats...you'll own the best AC30 anywhere if you buy =
this thing." So, I bit the bullet and grabbed it. I would urge anyone =
who wants to buy this amp to call and talk to him. He'd probably =
remember it.
>=20
> I probably overpaid for it at the time in my enthusiasm and haste, and =
I certainly did based on today's market. I think I paid $5500, which is =
quite high. But I'd take $3500 for it now.
>=20
> So, the obvious question: If it sounds so damn good, why would I sell =
it?
>=20
> Well, for one thing, I have 3 other JMI AC30s and two modded AC30 =
reissues. After doing some A/B-ing, I think my '63 AC30 (also with =
Albions) with the rear top boost added on sounds very close to this '64 =
Treble amp. Both amps sound out of this world. If I didn't have to part =
with either of them, I wouldn't. However, I've recently bought several =
guitars, which means some tough decisions need to be made about what =
gear goes and what stays.
>=20
> Every guitar I throw at this amp sounds terrific--and I have them all =
(humbuckers, single coils, P 90s; Strat, Tele, Gretsch, Rickenbacker, =
Les Paul, 335...you name it).
>=20
> I also have a used flight case I would throw in for shipping.
>=20
> I can send more pics, of course, to interested buyers. Contact me here =
or directly at jcshirke AT frontier DOT com
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Jeff
>=20


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after-white-space; "><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.glasswing.com">www.glasswing.com</a></font></div><div><=
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href=3D"http://www.richardsales.com">www.richardsales.com</a></font></div>=
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.hayleysales.com">www.hayleysales.com</a></font></div><d=
iv><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.goodnaturefarms.com">www.goodnaturefarms.com</a></font>=
</div><div><br></div></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
</div>
<br><div><div>On Dec 5, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Jeff,<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">There are =
probably a lot of folks on this forum who can't read TGP Emporium posts. =
IIRC, you need to be a TGP member to access that =
page.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Probably best =
to post the full details here and links to the =
pix.<br></blockquote><br>Whoops....you're almost certainly right, =
Philip. Thanks!<br><br>Here's the description from TGP. Pics available =
upon request. My friend was hosting most of them, so if I can get the =
link from him, I'll post it.<br><br><br>-------------<br><br>FS: 1964 =
Vox AC30 T<br><br>This is copper panel, non-top-boost amp, Albion =
transformers, with original silver speakers. A rear top boost could =
certainly be added, if desired. But, imo, with a Treble amp, there's =
really no need. It already has all of the chimey top end anyone would =
want, and a boost pedal in front of it would goose it just enough to =
give the classic Top Boost sound in spades. (In fact, I highly, highly =
recommend the brand new Catilinbred Galileo pedal for that very purpose. =
It kills!! I just tried it with my other Voxes,and it was jaw dropping.) =
This amp sounds incredible by just plugging any guitar straight into the =
Brilliant channel. And the Normal channel is no slouch =
either.<br><br>When I bought this amp a couple years ago, it was touted =
as "the best AC30 we've ever heard". Hyperbole aside, it really *is* =
that good. The store I bought it from is Emerald City Guitars in =
Seattle. I spoke at length to a tech out there who went through the amp, =
*who is not employed by the store* (which was key for me), and he told =
me it indeed was the best AC30 he'd ever heard, and he's worked on =
hundreds. He basically said, "Congrats...you'll own the best AC30 =
anywhere if you buy this thing." So, I bit the bullet and grabbed it. I =
would urge anyone who wants to buy this amp to call and talk to him. =
He'd probably remember it.<br><br>I probably overpaid for it at the time =
in my enthusiasm and haste, and I certainly did based on today's market. =
I think I paid $5500, which is quite high. But I'd take $3500 for it =
now.<br><br>So, the obvious question: If it sounds so damn good, why =
would I sell it?<br><br>Well, for one thing, I have 3 other JMI AC30s =
and two modded AC30 reissues. After doing some A/B-ing, I think my '63 =
AC30 (also with Albions) with the rear top boost added on sounds very =
close to this '64 Treble amp. Both amps sound out of this world. If I =
didn't have to part with either of them, I wouldn't. However, I've =
recently bought several guitars, which means some tough decisions need =
to be made about what gear goes and what stays.<br><br>Every guitar I =
throw at this amp sounds terrific--and I have them all (humbuckers, =
single coils, P 90s; Strat, Tele, Gretsch, Rickenbacker, Les Paul, =
335...you name it).<br><br>I also have a used flight case I would throw =
in for shipping.<br><br>I can send more pics, of course, to interested =
buyers. Contact me here or directly at jcshirke AT frontier DOT =
com<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Jeff<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div><=
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Thanks Andy,
yeah I would assume so, it's just that I don't know much about electronics
and I wanna make sure I get the right thing. I know you can get different
switches for it but I'm not sure which ones are fine. I'd rather get
something that people have tested on the EFC-7.
I=B4m gonna check on this couple shops you said and then maybe see if I can
find the same component in Germany..

thanks
g.


On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:38 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> maplin

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yeah I would assume so, it&#39;s just that I don&#39;t know much about elec=
tronics and I wanna make sure I get the right thing. I know you can get dif=
ferent switches for it but I&#39;m not sure which ones are fine. I&#39;d ra=
ther get something that people have tested on the EFC-7.=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">I=B4m gonna check on this couple shops you said =
and then maybe see if I can find the same component in Germany..=A0</div><d=
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Hi Gio,

no electronic knowledge needed, just need to know that it's a 
non-latching push to make switch.

More important is the mechanics, and of course that it fits the hole.

If it looks right, and *feels* right then it's going to be ok.




Most likely candidate at Maplin is this

http://www.maplin.co.uk/illuminated-push-to-make-switch-34861

...I thought they had more/better, and I haven't got an example switch to check.


Those are "push switches" rather than foot switches as such.

This one's a nice sturdy footswitch, 

http://www.maplin.co.uk/push-to-make-foot-switch-34489

perhaps not such quite a fast action, but smooth and more reliable.



andy



Gio Gio wrote:
> Thanks Andy, 
> yeah I would assume so, it's just that I don't know much about 
> electronics and I wanna make sure I get the right thing. I know you can 
> get different switches for it but I'm not sure which ones are fine. I'd 
> rather get something that people have tested on the EFC-7. 
> I´m gonna check on this couple shops you said and then maybe see if I 
> can find the same component in Germany.. 
> 
> thanks 
> g. 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:38 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk 
> <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>     maplin
> 
> 

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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
It's Analog Overdose month!  Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic
Travels, I'll begin the month-long Special Focus on Fanger and
Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog Overdose 3"
on Manikin Records.  The Special Focus page is at:
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

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Hey everyone!

It's that time of year, so I wanted to send out a link to my rendition of
"Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" which we just finished a few hours ago.

If you remember, last year I did a salsa version of O Holy Night. This
year, I invited a great little blues/swing family band to join me. Mark
Potvin & The Potvin Horns were really fun to work with, and the result is a
blend of live instruments, an a cappella percussion section, some loops
created using a Line 6 M13, and of course, tons of harmonies.

You can listen to it on my website www.jeanpaulderoover.com, where you can
also download it for free.

Happy holidays everyone!

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<span class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color=
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o send out a link to my rendition of &quot;Rockin&#39; Around the Christmas=
 Tree&quot; which we just finished a few hours ago.=A0</span><div>

<span class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)">If you remember, last year =
I did a salsa version of O Holy Night. This year, I invited a great little =
blues/swing family band to join me. Mark Potvin &amp; The Potvin Horns were=
 really fun to work with, and the result is a blend of live instruments, an=
 a cappella percussion section, some loops created using a Line 6 M13, and =
of course, tons of harmonies.=A0</span><div>

<div><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>You can listen to it on my website=A0<a href=3D"http:=
//www.jeanpaulderoover.com/" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204=
)">www.jeanpaulderoover.com</a>, where you can also download it for free.<b=
r>

<br>Happy holidays everyone!</span></div></div></div><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Jean-Paul De Roover<br><a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com" target=
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cool, thanks !


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:10 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote=
:

> Hi Gio,
>
> no electronic knowledge needed, just need to know that it's a non-latchin=
g
> push to make switch.
>
> More important is the mechanics, and of course that it fits the hole.
>
> If it looks right, and *feels* right then it's going to be ok.
>
>
>
>
> Most likely candidate at Maplin is this
>
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/**illuminated-push-to-make-**switch-34861<http://=
www.maplin.co.uk/illuminated-push-to-make-switch-34861>
>
> ...I thought they had more/better, and I haven't got an example switch to
> check.
>
>
> Those are "push switches" rather than foot switches as such.
>
> This one's a nice sturdy footswitch,
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/push-**to-make-foot-switch-34489<http://www.mapli=
n.co.uk/push-to-make-foot-switch-34489>
>
> perhaps not such quite a fast action, but smooth and more reliable.
>
>
>
> andy
>
>
>
> Gio Gio wrote:
>
>> Thanks Andy, yeah I would assume so, it's just that I don't know much
>> about electronics and I wanna make sure I get the right thing. I know yo=
u
>> can get different switches for it but I'm not sure which ones are fine. =
I'd
>> rather get something that people have tested on the EFC-7. I=B4m gonna c=
heck
>> on this couple shops you said and then maybe see if I can find the same
>> component in Germany..
>> thanks g.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:38 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk<mail=
to:
>> akbutler@tiscali.co.uk**>> wrote:
>>
>>     maplin
>>
>>
>>
>

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cool, thanks !<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:10 PM, andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Gio,<br>
<br>
no electronic knowledge needed, just need to know that it&#39;s a non-latch=
ing push to make switch.<br>
<br>
More important is the mechanics, and of course that it fits the hole.<br>
<br>
If it looks right, and *feels* right then it&#39;s going to be ok.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Most likely candidate at Maplin is this<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.maplin.co.uk/illuminated-push-to-make-switch-34861" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.maplin.co.uk/<u></u>illuminated-push-to-make-<u=
></u>switch-34861</a><br>
<br>
...I thought they had more/better, and I haven&#39;t got an example switch =
to check.<br>
<br>
<br>
Those are &quot;push switches&quot; rather than foot switches as such.<br>
<br>
This one&#39;s a nice sturdy footswitch, <br>
<a href=3D"http://www.maplin.co.uk/push-to-make-foot-switch-34489" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.maplin.co.uk/push-<u></u>to-make-foot-switch-34489</=
a><br>
<br>
perhaps not such quite a fast action, but smooth and more reliable.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
andy<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Gio Gio wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
Thanks Andy, yeah I would assume so, it&#39;s just that I don&#39;t know mu=
ch about electronics and I wanna make sure I get the right thing. I know yo=
u can get different switches for it but I&#39;m not sure which ones are fin=
e. I&#39;d rather get something that people have tested on the EFC-7. I=B4m=
 gonna check on this couple shops you said and then maybe see if I can find=
 the same component in Germany.. <br>

thanks g. <br>
<br></div>
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:38 PM, andy butler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@=
tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a> &lt;mailto:<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">akbutler@tiscali.co=
.uk</a><u></u>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>

<br>
=A0 =A0 maplin<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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JPdR,

I have to say, that that was infectious and pretty slick...and put a =
smile on my face.

Happy holidays to you, and a prosperous 2013 to follow.

Best,

TrK



On Dec 6, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote:

> Hey everyone!
>=20
> It's that time of year, so I wanted to send out a link to my rendition =
of "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" which we just finished a few =
hours ago.=20
>=20
> If you remember, last year I did a salsa version of O Holy Night. This =
year, I invited a great little blues/swing family band to join me. Mark =
Potvin & The Potvin Horns were really fun to work with, and the result =
is a blend of live instruments, an a cappella percussion section, some =
loops created using a Line 6 M13, and of course, tons of harmonies.=20
>=20
> You can listen to it on my website www.jeanpaulderoover.com, where you =
can also download it for free.
>=20
> Happy holidays everyone!
>=20
> --=20
> Jean-Paul De Roover
> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
> (807) 251-3376

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Two or three people expressed interest in seeing pics of my AC30, and  
I finally got the link:

http://s1112.beta.photobucket.com/user/seankmoran/library/

Pics 3-8, I believe.

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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Two or three people expressed interest in seeing pics of my AC30, and I finally got the link:<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://s1112.beta.photobucket.com/user/seankmoran/library/">http://s1112.beta.photobucket.com/user/seankmoran/library/</a></span></div><div><br></div><div>Pics 3-8, I believe.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div></div></body></html>
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Ethos is awesome.  When I last performed in Japan I couldn't take my amp =
- which is a very integral part of my sound.  When I got there they had =
two newer AC 30s for back line.=20
With a few tweaks of Ethos EQ I had the sound I wanted, only maybe =
better because the AC30 is more hi fi than my old Magnatones.=20
I recommend this.  The waiting list is forever and Luis' price is fair, =
esp in Europe.
If you tour and use back line amps (provided by promoter), and if you =
care about tone, you just about have to have one.

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On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Luis Angulo wrote:

> I dont have to tell you how awesome this thing is,just ask around and =
go to their website and watch some videos
> take this thing in your bag,plug it in directly into the board and you =
have the warmest tube amp ive ever heard on a pedal
> no more worrying about heavy tube amps or never ending tweaking to get =
something it will never come close to it!
> no digital simulations,just the real deal,i got sick of multi =
effectors and finally got what i was looking for
> if you dont believe me,ask our x pert man Bill Walker=20
> or go here for more details
>=20
> http://www.customtonesinc.com/Home_Page.php
>=20
> Mine comes with the x tra "LE switch" which cost x tra,but im telling =
you it was worth it!
> the thing is like new,with original box etc. it hardly left my studio
> im selling it because i have 2 which i needed for going stereo but ive =
gone mono now
> contact me offlist ASAP, first come first serve
> price 450.-eur plus shipping
>=20
> cheers
> Luis
> =20
>=20


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is awesome. &nbsp;When I last performed in Japan I couldn't take my amp =
- which is a very integral part of my sound. &nbsp;When I got there they =
had two newer AC 30s for back line.&nbsp;<div>With a few tweaks of Ethos =
EQ I had the sound I wanted, only maybe better because the AC30 is more =
hi fi than my old Magnatones.&nbsp;</div><div>I recommend this. =
&nbsp;The waiting list is forever and Luis' price is fair, esp in =
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<br><div><div>On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Luis Angulo wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, =
new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I dont have to tell =
you how awesome this thing is,just ask around and go to their website =
and watch some videos</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>take this =
thing in your bag,plug it in directly into the board and you have the =
warmest tube amp ive ever heard on a pedal</span></div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new =
roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><span>no more worrying about heavy tube amps or never ending =
tweaking to get something it will never come close to =
it!<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; =
font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color:
 transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>no digital simulations,just the =
real deal,i got sick of multi effectors and finally got what i was =
looking for</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>if you dont =
believe me,ask our x pert man Bill Walker <br></span></div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new =
roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><span>or go here for more details</span></div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new =
roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style:
 normal;"><span><a =
href=3D"http://www.customtonesinc.com/Home_Page.php">http://www.customtone=
sinc.com/Home_Page.php</a></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Mine comes =
with the x tra "LE switch" which cost x tra,but im telling you it was =
worth it!<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>the thing is =
like new,with original box etc. it hardly left my =
studio<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>im selling it =
because i have 2 which i needed for
 going stereo but ive gone mono now<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new =
york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><span>contact me offlist ASAP, first come first =
serve</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; =
font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: =
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>price 450.-eur plus =
shipping<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><span>cheers</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent;
 font-style: =
normal;"><span>Luis</span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div></div></di=
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Hi Folks,=0Asince august i stated having pains im my left arm,specially aro=
und my elbow and wrist.=0AI have problems gripping anything,specially the f=
retboard of the gutiar or even holding a glass full of water=0A=0Athis seem=
s to be a common problem not only with tennis players or golfers but also w=
ith guitarrists,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.=0Aim currently doing a =
therapy but i question its effectiveness=0A=0AHas anybody suffered from thi=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi Folks,<=
/span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family=
: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font=
-style: normal;"><span>since august i stated having pains im my left arm,sp=
ecially around my elbow and wrist.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I have problems g=
ripping anything,specially the fretboard of the gutiar or even holding a gl=
ass full of water<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-s=
ize: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-co=
lor: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>this seems to be a common prob=
lem not only with tennis players or golfers but also with
 guitarrists,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.</span></div><div style=3D"=
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york=
,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>im =
currently doing a therapy but i question its effectiveness<br></span></div>=
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new =
roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: norm=
al;"><span>Has anybody suffered from this? what kind of solutions did you f=
ind or would recommend?</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font=
-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-=
color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>thanx!</span></div><div styl=
e=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new=
 york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
 normal;"><span>Luis</span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>http://www.myspace.c=
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Hi Luis,

Over Use Syndrome is very common with anyone who does anything over and 
over and over.  It can come from typing;  texting on a cell phone;  
playing tennis;  playing guitar...........anything where thousands of 
motions occur
daily.

 From my knowledge of it (and I've professionally helped a half a dozen 
drummers with this problem
to get back to equilibrium),   all muscles work in the same way:

Namely,  when you make a motion with your wrists, ankles, elbows, knees, 
et. al.    one muscle
stretches on one side of the bone and a compensatory muscle contracts on 
the other side.

I'm a lay person and not a doctor, obviously,  but I've encountered 
these problems so many times
that I've learned a lot about it................so take this with a 
grain of salt, but I promise, there is some wisdom
in what I say.

What happens in Over Use Syndrome is that  one makes hundreds of 
movements in one direction;
meaning that one muscle is always stretching while it's compensatory 
muscle is contracting but
the same amount of motion is not happening in the opposite direction.

So,  when you are in a place where your muscles are inflamed 
chronically,  one has to do a few
things:

1)   Refrain from the motion that exacerbates the condition until the 
pain and the swelling go away.
It may be efficacious to ice your inflammation (but be sure never to ice 
more than 20 minutes at a time because you can injure you muscles by 
freezing them just as surely as you can by overusing them.

This may take a long time.   It might mean not picking up glasses;   not 
playing guitar or anything
that exacerbates the condition...........This one is tough, but you may 
just have to do it.

2)   Your convalescence can be assisted with the use of 
anti-inflammatory drugs (as simple as
Aspirin or Motrin) and/or Cortical Steroids.    Cortical Steroids can 
radically reduce inflammation but
they also have a lot of potential side effects that are not great.    
The last time I took them for an chronic
infected sinus condition,  I started having bruising all over my body at 
the very  slightest of trauma.   Some people even believe that the 
constant use of Cortical Steroids can lead to 
Cancer...............others site what's called a 'rebound effect' which 
means that the inflamation goes away until the stoppage of the drug and 
then returns even greater.  Personally,  I avoid them like the plague, 
but they can save someone who has Lupus from death.

3)  Go to an Acupuncturist.    Chinese medicine has a great track record 
with over use conditions compared to
Western medicine which frequently only advocates ceasing any 
exacerbating motion or drugs.    This may take some time and some money, 
but the quicker you convalesce, the better.   As an alternative,  a 
really good Chiropractor may be able to assist you , as well as a good 
trained Physical Therapist who specializes in precisely what you suffer 
from.

4)  Once you start to feel better,   look at the kinds of motions that 
are making your condition worse and see if you can figure out a set of 
exercises that will stretch your muscles in EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE 
DIRECTION than the motions that are causing your problems.   In the long 
run,  this is super important.  I can't more highly stress it.

Towards that end, with Hand and Finger pain,   the Chinese make little 
silver and enamel covered small balls which are designed, specifically, 
to be rotated inside of the palm.   Rotate them around each other inside 
of your palm in a clock wise direction for 20 times and then rotate them 
around each other inside of your palm in a counter-clockwise direction 
for another 20 times.   By doing this,  you are actually using every 
single set of major muscles in your hands, equally.

My wife had Over Use Syndrome,  playing too much guitar;  typing 
incessantly on a computer keyboard and finally, trying to lay some bass 
guitar licks on her album.    Her hands were in such pain that she could 
hardly do anything...........................She stopped all her 
activity and started using these Chinese balls and almost miraculously,  
she came back to being able to play and type again without pain.

The trick is committing to using your muscles in exactly the opposite 
directions  than the directions used with
whatever has caused you the most pain.

5)   Lastly,  Western Medicine will advocate surgery.  With chronic 
wrist injuries they will advocate for
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome surgery.    My acupuncturist has told me, "always 
make this the very last resort
to such a problem."      I know a professional drummer who traveled all 
the way from Hawaii because he had heard that I was having good luck 
with re-training drummers in how to change their habits so that they 
were no longer having Over Use Syndrome.    He already had Carpal Tunnel 
surgery scheduled if working with me didn't work out.    I just sat down 
and watched him play and saw immediately where the physical dysfunction 
in his technique was.
I got him to change the position of his left wrist so when he hit his 
brutal 'backbeats' that his hand was not bent at the wrist when he 
struck.    It took him two weeks of working with me and he cancelled his 
surgery and now hes' doing great without pain.

All I did was look at him, physically, and I could see what he was doing 
to hurt himself.

So, think about videoing yourself to see where you are making motions 
that are constantly going in one direction
(with out a commensurate and exactly opposite movement to balance the 
motions out).

Pick up that cup of coffee and have your wife watch you do it. Figure 
out what the exact opposite movement would be and develop a series of 
stretching exercise to do both before and after any repetitive stress 
motions (specifically, playing guitar).

6) By the way,  excessive consumption of Caffeine has been to joint pain 
and stiffness in the hands, so you might cut back on your consumption of 
it.   Additionally,  I've heard a lot of people have had good results in 
reducing inflamation of joints by consuming  Glucosamine and 
Chondroitin.   I've also heard that taking Cod Liver Oil or other fish 
oils can have a salutary effect.

7) Lastly,   some motions are tied to tightness and lack of flexibility 
in other parts of your back.
If you have issues with tension , as an example, in your neck, your 
shoulders,  the upper muscles of your back, they can have negative 
repercussions that will effect your arms, elbows, wrists and finally 
hands and fingers.

Again,  have somebody you know well watch you and notice where you tend 
to keep your tension held.   Figure out what muscles  you could stretch 
that go in the exact opposite direction of the muscles you use when you 
are  'uptight' physically or emotionally.

8) Someone who's well trained in these things can talk to you for just a 
few minutes and then watch you pick things up;  play guitar, et. al. and 
tell  you what's up with your body.  Don't be cheap!     Spend some 
money to get a handle on it and it might just save your career as a 
professional musician before Over Use Syndrome knocks you out.

9) Lastly:        Years ago I had some really problems with my lower and 
upper back.  One morning I woke up unable to get out of bed.   I went 
and saw a really good chiropractor and he hipped me to the fact that we 
need to stretch our basic muscles in both directions to stay flexible 
and healthy.    He told me to go buy three meters of rubber surgical 
tubing (about 1/4" to 1/2" in diameter and very flexible).  He then 
showed me how you can roll it in each of your hands and then stretch it 
out by putting your hands in back of your head,  in front of your 
heads;   stretching in every single direction up and down and sideways 
in both in front and in back of your head.   By doing this, you are 
stretching all of those muscles in all directions.       I started doing 
it and it was almost miraculous.   My back pain went away and has rarely 
come back.  When it does,  it's usually because I've stopped doing those 
exercise.  It literally only takes 20 to 30 seconds a day and is a great 
way to wake up in the morning.

I hope some of this helps.   Again,  I'm not an expert, but I researched 
it a lot and these things seems to work.

Good luck,  buddy!!!!!   You are a wonderful musician and I hope this 
doesn't impede your artistry for too long.

Rick



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Hi Luis,
I had something similar from learning renaissance lute.
All those hard chord shapes, the temptation was to use a bit more
force to hold the strings down....bad idea.


If you wanna see someone about it, by far the best choice 
is a physiotherapist. Those are the guys that actually understand
the cause of the problem and what needs to be done.
Probably a one off consultation would get you
on track. 

This is my fix
1) Rest it till the pain stops.
2) Go back to the activity that caused the problem, which we're guessing
  is "trying to use those Bill Walker chords"....
but this time, make sure your hand is relaxed, and stop as soon as you get problems.
 A good idea to try fretting a few notes, and then experimenting to see how little
  force you need from the left hand. Reduce the force till the note rattles, just
  to get an idea, and spend enough time so that you know how to give just a little extra
   push at the start of the note (where the force needs to be a little greater than
   on a sustained tone.
3) More rest, avoid long playing sessions.

4) non-steriodal anti-inflammatories such as Iboprofen, (Nurofen) help too.

andy

Luis Angulo wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> since august i stated having pains im my left arm,specially around my 
> elbow and wrist.
> I have problems gripping anything,specially the fretboard of the gutiar 
> or even holding a glass full of water
> this seems to be a common problem not only with tennis players or 
> golfers but also with guitarrists,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.
> im currently doing a therapy but i question its effectiveness
> Has anybody suffered from this? what kind of solutions did you find or 
> would recommend?
> thanx!
> Luis
>  
> http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom

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Valuable information bro,thank you!!!=0Aid be really interested in those ch=
inese balls,all ive seen as of yet is this,so i went and bought it,at this =
point ill try anything=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWMsxGfACAfo=0A=
=0Agood advice,i think ill take the guitar for my next therapy and let my t=
herapist observe me=0AIve had problems with my lower back for years as well=
 and done all sorts of therapy,sometimes is better other days is worse=0Ais=
 mainly on the lower right side=0Aid be really interested in seeing how you=
 do these back excercises as well, i do have some rubber bands that were gi=
ven to me once when i had a therapy=0Abut i stopped doing these excercises =
because of this problem,i dont want to hurt my arm by doing them wrong=0Ai =
wish i could stop playing guitar but i have to give lessons and gigs,im als=
o aware that my wrist position has not been the greatest for years,im left =
handed and use my left hand for all of these activities....=0AI definetly h=
ave to change some habits,but im not really sure yet how,right now i use so=
rt of a clamp support on my arm when i play and it does prevent pain=0Ai re=
ally hope i can find a solution soon,i could live with backaches but no thi=
s, i really need my left arm and depend on it;-((=0Athanx for all of your h=
elp people=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/lu=
isangulocom=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Rick Walker <=
looppool@cruzio.com>=0ATo: Luis Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com>; LOOPERS DE=
LIGHT (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> =0ASent: Sunday, Dece=
mber 9, 2012 1:10 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tennis Elbow=0A =0AHi Luis,=0A=0AOver U=
se Syndrome is very common with anyone who does anything over and over and =
over.=A0 It can come from typing;=A0 texting on a cell phone;=A0 playing te=
nnis;=A0 playing guitar...........anything where thousands of motions occur=
=0Adaily.=0A=0AFrom my knowledge of it (and I've professionally helped a ha=
lf a dozen drummers with this problem=0Ato get back to equilibrium),=A0  al=
l muscles work in the same way:=0A=0ANamely,=A0 when you make a motion with=
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on one side of the bone and a compensatory muscle contracts on the other si=
de.=0A=0AI'm a lay person and not a doctor, obviously,=A0 but I've encounte=
red these problems so many times=0Athat I've learned a lot about it........=
........so take this with a grain of salt, but I promise, there is some wis=
dom=0Ain what I say.=0A=0AWhat happens in Over Use Syndrome is that=A0 one =
makes hundreds of movements in one direction;=0Ameaning that one muscle is =
always stretching while it's compensatory muscle is contracting but=0Athe s=
ame amount of motion is not happening in the opposite direction.=0A=0ASo,=
=A0 when you are in a place where your muscles are inflamed chronically,=A0=
 one has to do a few=0Athings:=0A=0A1)=A0  Refrain from the motion that exa=
cerbates the condition until the pain and the swelling go away.=0AIt may be=
 efficacious to ice your inflammation (but be sure never to ice more than 2=
0 minutes at a time because you can injure you muscles by freezing them jus=
t as surely as you can by overusing them.=0A=0AThis may take a long time.=
=A0  It might mean not picking up glasses;=A0  not playing guitar or anythi=
ng=0Athat exacerbates the condition...........This one is tough, but you ma=
y just have to do it.=0A=0A2)=A0  Your convalescence can be assisted with t=
he use of anti-inflammatory drugs (as simple as=0AAspirin or Motrin) and/or=
 Cortical Steroids.=A0 =A0 Cortical Steroids can radically reduce inflammat=
ion but=0Athey also have a lot of potential side effects that are not great=
.=A0 =A0 The last time I took them for an chronic=0Ainfected sinus conditio=
n,=A0 I started having bruising all over my body at the very=A0 slightest o=
f trauma.=A0  Some people even believe that the constant use of Cortical St=
eroids can lead to Cancer...............others site what's called a 'reboun=
d effect' which means that the inflamation goes away until the stoppage of =
the drug and then returns even greater.=A0 Personally,=A0 I avoid them like=
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 Go to an Acupuncturist.=A0 =A0 Chinese medicine has a great track record w=
ith over use conditions compared to=0AWestern medicine which frequently onl=
y advocates ceasing any exacerbating motion or drugs.=A0 =A0 This may take =
some time and some money, but the quicker you convalesce, the better.=A0  A=
s an alternative,=A0 a really good Chiropractor may be able to assist you ,=
 as well as a good trained Physical Therapist who specializes in precisely =
what you suffer from.=0A=0A4)=A0 Once you start to feel better,=A0  look at=
 the kinds of motions that are making your condition worse and see if you c=
an figure out a set of exercises that will stretch your muscles in EXACTLY =
THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION than the motions that are causing your problems.=A0 =
 In the long run,=A0 this is super important.=A0 I can't more highly stress=
 it.=0A=0ATowards that end, with Hand and Finger pain,=A0  the Chinese make=
 little silver and enamel covered small balls which are designed, specifica=
lly, to be rotated inside of the palm.=A0  Rotate them around each other in=
side of your palm in a clock wise direction for 20 times and then rotate th=
em around each other inside of your palm in a counter-clockwise direction f=
or another 20 times.=A0  By doing this,=A0 you are actually using every sin=
gle set of major muscles in your hands, equally.=0A=0AMy wife had Over Use =
Syndrome,=A0 playing too much guitar;=A0 typing incessantly on a computer k=
eyboard and finally, trying to lay some bass guitar licks on her album.=A0 =
=A0 Her hands were in such pain that she could hardly do anything..........=
.................She stopped all her activity and started using these Chine=
se balls and almost miraculously,=A0 she came back to being able to play an=
d type again without pain.=0A=0AThe trick is committing to using your muscl=
es in exactly the opposite directions=A0 than the directions used with=0Awh=
atever has caused you the most pain.=0A=0A5)=A0  Lastly,=A0 Western Medicin=
e will advocate surgery.=A0 With chronic wrist injuries they will advocate =
for=0ACarpal Tunnel Syndrome surgery.=A0 =A0 My acupuncturist has told me, =
"always make this the very last resort=0Ato such a problem."=A0 =A0 =A0 I k=
now a professional drummer who traveled all the way from Hawaii because he =
had heard that I was having good luck with re-training drummers in how to c=
hange their habits so that they were no longer having Over Use Syndrome.=A0=
 =A0 He already had Carpal Tunnel surgery scheduled if working with me didn=
't work out.=A0 =A0 I just sat down and watched him play and saw immediatel=
y where the physical dysfunction in his technique was.=0AI got him to chang=
e the position of his left wrist so when he hit his brutal 'backbeats' that=
 his hand was not bent at the wrist when he struck.=A0 =A0 It took him two =
weeks of working with me and he cancelled his surgery and now hes' doing gr=
eat without pain.=0A=0AAll I did was look at him, physically, and I could s=
ee what he was doing to hurt himself.=0A=0ASo, think about videoing yoursel=
f to see where you are making motions that are constantly going in one dire=
ction=0A(with out a commensurate and exactly opposite movement to balance t=
he motions out).=0A=0APick up that cup of coffee and have your wife watch y=
ou do it. Figure out what the exact opposite movement would be and develop =
a series of stretching exercise to do both before and after any repetitive =
stress motions (specifically, playing guitar).=0A=0A6) By the way,=A0 exces=
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nds, so you might cut back on your consumption of it.=A0  Additionally,=A0 =
I've heard a lot of people have had good results in reducing inflamation of=
 joints by consuming=A0 Glucosamine and Chondroitin.=A0  I've also heard th=
at taking Cod Liver Oil or other fish oils can have a salutary effect.=0A=
=0A7) Lastly,=A0  some motions are tied to tightness and lack of flexibilit=
y in other parts of your back.=0AIf you have issues with tension , as an ex=
ample, in your neck, your shoulders,=A0 the upper muscles of your back, the=
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s and finally hands and fingers.=0A=0AAgain,=A0 have somebody you know well=
 watch you and notice where you tend to keep your tension held.=A0  Figure =
out what muscles=A0 you could stretch that go in the exact opposite directi=
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ly.=0A=0A8) Someone who's well trained in these things can talk to you for =
just a few minutes and then watch you pick things up;=A0 play guitar, et. a=
l. and tell=A0 you what's up with your body.=A0 Don't be cheap!=A0 =A0  Spe=
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tly:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Years ago I had some really problems with my lower and =
upper back.=A0 One morning I woke up unable to get out of bed.=A0  I went a=
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 to stretch our basic muscles in both directions to stay flexible and healt=
hy.=A0 =A0 He told me to go buy three meters of rubber surgical tubing (abo=
ut 1/4" to 1/2" in diameter and very flexible).=A0 He then showed me how yo=
u can roll it in each of your hands and then stretch it out by putting your=
 hands in back of your head,=A0 in front of your heads;=A0  stretching in e=
very single direction up and down and sideways in both in front and in back=
 of your head.=A0  By doing this, you are stretching all of those muscles i=
n all directions.=A0 =A0 =A0  I started doing it and it was almost miraculo=
us.=A0  My back pain went away and has rarely come back.=A0 When it does,=
=A0 it's usually because I've stopped doing those exercise.=A0 It literally=
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 takes 20 to 30 seconds a day and is a great way to wake up in the morning.=
=0A=0AI hope some of this helps.=A0  Again,=A0 I'm not an expert, but I res=
earched it a lot and these things seems to work.=0A=0AGood luck,=A0 buddy!!=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Valuable information =
bro,thank you!!!<br>id be really interested in those chinese balls,all ive =
seen as of yet is this,so i went and bought it,at this point ill try anythi=
ng<br><br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWMsxGfACAfo<br><br>good advice,i=
 think ill take the guitar for my next therapy and let my therapist observe=
 me<br>Ive had problems with my lower back for years as well and done all s=
orts of therapy,sometimes is better other days is worse<br>is mainly on the=
 lower right side<br>id be really interested in seeing how you do these bac=
k excercises as well, i do have some rubber bands that were given to me onc=
e when i had a therapy<br>but i stopped doing these excercises because of t=
his problem,i dont want to hurt my arm by doing them wrong<br>i wish i coul=
d stop playing guitar but i have to give lessons and gigs,im also aware
 that my wrist position has not been the greatest for years,im left handed =
and use my left hand for all of these activities....<br>I definetly have to=
 change some habits,but im not really sure yet how,right now i use sort of =
a clamp support on my arm when i play and it does prevent pain<br>i really =
hope i can find a solution soon,i could live with backaches but no this, i =
really need my left arm and depend on it;-((<br>thanx for all of your help =
people<br>cheers<br>Luis<br><br><br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div>&n=
bsp;</div><div>http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom<br></div>  <div style=
=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"=
> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-=
size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=
=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Rick Walker =
&lt;looppool@cruzio.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</=
span></b>
 Luis Angulo &lt;louie.angulo@yahoo.com&gt;; LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) &lt;=
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:=
 bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:10 PM<br> <b><span styl=
e=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Tennis Elbow<br> </font> <=
/div> <br>Hi Luis,<br><br>Over Use Syndrome is very common with anyone who =
does anything over and over and over.&nbsp; It can come from typing;&nbsp; =
texting on a cell phone;&nbsp; playing tennis;&nbsp; playing guitar........=
...anything where thousands of motions occur<br>daily.<br><br>From my knowl=
edge of it (and I've professionally helped a half a dozen drummers with thi=
s problem<br>to get back to equilibrium),&nbsp;  all muscles work in the sa=
me way:<br><br>Namely,&nbsp; when you make a motion with your wrists, ankle=
s, elbows, knees, et. al.&nbsp; &nbsp; one muscle<br>stretches on one side =
of the bone and a compensatory muscle contracts on the other
 side.<br><br>I'm a lay person and not a doctor, obviously,&nbsp; but I've =
encountered these problems so many times<br>that I've learned a lot about i=
t................so take this with a grain of salt, but I promise, there is=
 some wisdom<br>in what I say.<br><br>What happens in Over Use Syndrome is =
that&nbsp; one makes hundreds of movements in one direction;<br>meaning tha=
t one muscle is always stretching while it's compensatory muscle is contrac=
ting but<br>the same amount of motion is not happening in the opposite dire=
ction.<br><br>So,&nbsp; when you are in a place where your muscles are infl=
amed chronically,&nbsp; one has to do a few<br>things:<br><br>1)&nbsp;  Ref=
rain from the motion that exacerbates the condition until the pain and the =
swelling go away.<br>It may be efficacious to ice your inflammation (but be=
 sure never to ice more than 20 minutes at a time because you can injure yo=
u muscles by freezing them just as surely as you can by overusing
 them.<br><br>This may take a long time.&nbsp;  It might mean not picking u=
p glasses;&nbsp;  not playing guitar or anything<br>that exacerbates the co=
ndition...........This one is tough, but you may just have to do it.<br><br=
>2)&nbsp;  Your convalescence can be assisted with the use of anti-inflamma=
tory drugs (as simple as<br>Aspirin or Motrin) and/or Cortical Steroids.&nb=
sp; &nbsp; Cortical Steroids can radically reduce inflammation but<br>they =
also have a lot of potential side effects that are not great.&nbsp; &nbsp; =
The last time I took them for an chronic<br>infected sinus condition,&nbsp;=
 I started having bruising all over my body at the very&nbsp; slightest of =
trauma.&nbsp;  Some people even believe that the constant use of Cortical S=
teroids can lead to Cancer...............others site what's called a 'rebou=
nd effect' which means that the inflamation goes away until the stoppage of=
 the drug and then returns even greater.&nbsp; Personally,&nbsp; I
 avoid them like the plague, but they can save someone who has Lupus from d=
eath.<br><br>3)&nbsp; Go to an Acupuncturist.&nbsp; &nbsp; Chinese medicine=
 has a great track record with over use conditions compared to<br>Western m=
edicine which frequently only advocates ceasing any exacerbating motion or =
drugs.&nbsp; &nbsp; This may take some time and some money, but the quicker=
 you convalesce, the better.&nbsp;  As an alternative,&nbsp; a really good =
Chiropractor may be able to assist you , as well as a good trained Physical=
 Therapist who specializes in precisely what you suffer from.<br><br>4)&nbs=
p; Once you start to feel better,&nbsp;  look at the kinds of motions that =
are making your condition worse and see if you can figure out a set of exer=
cises that will stretch your muscles in EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION than=
 the motions that are causing your problems.&nbsp;  In the long run,&nbsp; =
this is super important.&nbsp; I can't more highly stress
 it.<br><br>Towards that end, with Hand and Finger pain,&nbsp;  the Chinese=
 make little silver and enamel covered small balls which are designed, spec=
ifically, to be rotated inside of the palm.&nbsp;  Rotate them around each =
other inside of your palm in a clock wise direction for 20 times and then r=
otate them around each other inside of your palm in a counter-clockwise dir=
ection for another 20 times.&nbsp;  By doing this,&nbsp; you are actually u=
sing every single set of major muscles in your hands, equally.<br><br>My wi=
fe had Over Use Syndrome,&nbsp; playing too much guitar;&nbsp; typing inces=
santly on a computer keyboard and finally, trying to lay some bass guitar l=
icks on her album.&nbsp; &nbsp; Her hands were in such pain that she could =
hardly do anything...........................She stopped all her activity a=
nd started using these Chinese balls and almost miraculously,&nbsp; she cam=
e back to being able to play and type again without pain.<br><br>The
 trick is committing to using your muscles in exactly the opposite directio=
ns&nbsp; than the directions used with<br>whatever has caused you the most =
pain.<br><br>5)&nbsp;  Lastly,&nbsp; Western Medicine will advocate surgery=
.&nbsp; With chronic wrist injuries they will advocate for<br>Carpal Tunnel=
 Syndrome surgery.&nbsp; &nbsp; My acupuncturist has told me, "always make =
this the very last resort<br>to such a problem."&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I know=
 a professional drummer who traveled all the way from Hawaii because he had=
 heard that I was having good luck with re-training drummers in how to chan=
ge their habits so that they were no longer having Over Use Syndrome.&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; He already had Carpal Tunnel surgery scheduled if working with me d=
idn't work out.&nbsp; &nbsp; I just sat down and watched him play and saw i=
mmediately where the physical dysfunction in his technique was.<br>I got hi=
m to change the position of his left wrist so when he hit his brutal
 'backbeats' that his hand was not bent at the wrist when he struck.&nbsp; =
&nbsp; It took him two weeks of working with me and he cancelled his surger=
y and now hes' doing great without pain.<br><br>All I did was look at him, =
physically, and I could see what he was doing to hurt himself.<br><br>So, t=
hink about videoing yourself to see where you are making motions that are c=
onstantly going in one direction<br>(with out a commensurate and exactly op=
posite movement to balance the motions out).<br><br>Pick up that cup of cof=
fee and have your wife watch you do it. Figure out what the exact opposite =
movement would be and develop a series of stretching exercise to do both be=
fore and after any repetitive stress motions (specifically, playing guitar)=
.<br><br>6) By the way,&nbsp; excessive consumption of Caffeine has been to=
 joint pain and stiffness in the hands, so you might cut back on your consu=
mption of it.&nbsp;  Additionally,&nbsp; I've heard a lot of people
 have had good results in reducing inflamation of joints by consuming&nbsp;=
 Glucosamine and Chondroitin.&nbsp;  I've also heard that taking Cod Liver =
Oil or other fish oils can have a salutary effect.<br><br>7) Lastly,&nbsp; =
 some motions are tied to tightness and lack of flexibility in other parts =
of your back.<br>If you have issues with tension , as an example, in your n=
eck, your shoulders,&nbsp; the upper muscles of your back, they can have ne=
gative repercussions that will effect your arms, elbows, wrists and finally=
 hands and fingers.<br><br>Again,&nbsp; have somebody you know well watch y=
ou and notice where you tend to keep your tension held.&nbsp;  Figure out w=
hat muscles&nbsp; you could stretch that go in the exact opposite direction=
 of the muscles you use when you are&nbsp; 'uptight' physically or emotiona=
lly.<br><br>8) Someone who's well trained in these things can talk to you f=
or just a few minutes and then watch you pick things up;&nbsp; play
 guitar, et. al. and tell&nbsp; you what's up with your body.&nbsp; Don't b=
e cheap!&nbsp; &nbsp;  Spend some money to get a handle on it and it might =
just save your career as a professional musician before Over Use Syndrome k=
nocks you out.<br><br>9) Lastly:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Years ago I had=
 some really problems with my lower and upper back.&nbsp; One morning I wok=
e up unable to get out of bed.&nbsp;  I went and saw a really good chiropra=
ctor and he hipped me to the fact that we need to stretch our basic muscles=
 in both directions to stay flexible and healthy.&nbsp; &nbsp; He told me t=
o go buy three meters of rubber surgical tubing (about 1/4" to 1/2" in diam=
eter and very flexible).&nbsp; He then showed me how you can roll it in eac=
h of your hands and then stretch it out by putting your hands in back of yo=
ur head,&nbsp; in front of your heads;&nbsp;  stretching in every single di=
rection up and down and sideways in both in front and in back of
 your head.&nbsp;  By doing this, you are stretching all of those muscles i=
n all directions.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  I started doing it and it was almost=
 miraculous.&nbsp;  My back pain went away and has rarely come back.&nbsp; =
When it does,&nbsp; it's usually because I've stopped doing those exercise.=
&nbsp; It literally only takes 20 to 30 seconds a day and is a great way to=
 wake up in the morning.<br><br>I hope some of this helps.&nbsp;  Again,&nb=
sp; I'm not an expert, but I researched it a lot and these things seems to =
work.<br><br>Good luck,&nbsp; buddy!!!!!&nbsp;  You are a wonderful musicia=
n and I hope this doesn't impede your artistry for too long.<br><br>Rick<br=
><br><br><br><br><br> </div> </div>  </div></body></html>
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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/top20-11nov.html

WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for November, 2012.
Shows #813 to #817; 1-November-2012 to 29-November-2012
Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order.
Compiled by Bill Fox

The Special Focus for November was Palancar.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#nov

ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
========================================================================
Andy Pickford - Jern - none
Chuck van Zyl - Cenotaph - Synkronos
Dan Pound - Return To Other Worlds - Poundsounds
Gordon Simmons - Solitary Journey - none
Hunter and Harrison - Phase 1 - Music with Space
Keith Berry - the ear that was sold to a fish -  Infraction
Kevin Keller - The Day I Met Myself - none
Mark Mosher - no ghosts_ just fear - none
Mystified - Breathe Beyond - Parkbench
Mythos - Surround Sound Evolution - Sireena
Palancar - Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume One - Blue Water
Palancar - Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Three - Blue Water
Palancar - Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two - Blue Water
Palancar - Serenetatis - Earth Mantra
Palancar - Vast - MP3.COM
Parallel Worlds and Dave Bessell - Morphogenic - DiN
Ray Carl Daye - Rapid Ear Movement - Magnatune
Robert Schroeder - Ferro OXID - Spheric Music
Vic Hennegan - Nebula Waves - Alien Tribes
['ramp] - astral disaster - doombient

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121206.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

Show #818 December 6, 2012.

WDIY Playlist: 
http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=12-06-2012

RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on Fanger & Schonwalder.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Analog Overdose 3" on Manikin Records.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

I also played music by artists who will appear at Event Horizon on
Friday, December 7.


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Chuck van Zyl        Charon               Cenotaph (Synkronos)
Robert Schroeder     Carbon Dioxide       Ferro OXID (Spheric)
Divine Matrix        Weather Satellite    Atmospheric Variations (A.D.
                                             Music)
Mark Mosher          Primeval             No Ghosts, Just Fear (none)
Orbital Decay        The Key of Sea *     Live on Star's End 8-18-02
Fanger & Schonwalder Hall of the Bourbon  Analog Overdose 3 (Manikin)
                        Lillies Part One


12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Fanger & Schonwalder Hall of the Bourbon  Analog Overdose 3 (Manikin)
                        Lillies Part Two
Fanger & Schonwalder Hall of the Bourbon  Analog Overdose 3 (Manikin)
                        Lillies Part Three
Fanger & Schonwalder Bar Liquid (Encore)  Analog Overdose 3 (Manikin)


1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Fanger & Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog
Overdose 4" on Manikin Records.

WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-12-13

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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This is what I'm currently suffering from , so I decided to quit  
playing miniature golf altogether. Sure I miss it but I feel better  
now. Seriously though, I too have been having repetitive stress issue  
the last few months from over playing stiffness and numbness in my  
hands and a  cranky spot in my upper back that wont quite down. So  
thanks Rick and Andy for this excellent advice. Andy I'm really not  
responsible for Luis condition but I appreciate seeing my name in  
print:-)
Luis , my  Brother, take it easy and follow this good advice. I'm  
sorry you are having to sell your ethos, are you moving in a different  
direction or just needing funds?
Take care
  Bill

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Good grief--I need to wake up before I read e-mails. I thought this said "T=
ennis E bow"

Date: Sun=2C 9 Dec 2012 01:10:19 -0800
From: louie.angulo@yahoo.com
Subject: Tennis Elbow
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hi Folks=2Csince august i stated having pains im my left arm=2Cspecially ar=
ound my elbow and wrist.I have problems gripping anything=2Cspecially the f=
retboard of the gutiar or even holding a glass full of water
this seems to be a common problem not only with tennis players or golfers b=
ut also with
 guitarrists=2Ccelloists=2Cvilolinists=2Cdrummers etc.im currently doing a =
therapy but i question its effectiveness
Has anybody suffered from this? what kind of solutions did you find or woul=
d recommend?thanx!Luis http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom 		 	   		  =

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Luis,=20

I have had it on the other arm (I am right handed) and yes it was =
painful.

I had cortisone shots - which took away the pain quite effectively - and =
I had to wear an elbow/wrist brace for a few weeks.

However, coupled with that I also had to change the way I did things =
with that arm and hand.

For starters, I got a trackball instead of a mouse (the big offender, =
since I make my living on the computer) and changed the strap length of =
my guitar so my arm was at a different angle.=20

Also, I no longer play tennis (giving up the guitar was not going to =
happen).

So far I have not had the same trouble again in the 10 years since it =
occured.

My recommendation is to go to a good doctor and find out what's really =
wrong and take whatever treatment they recommend.

Chances are, any impairment will only be a short term inconvenience.

Cheers,

Ted

On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:10 AM, Luis Angulo wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> since august i stated having pains im my left arm,specially around my =
elbow and wrist.
> I have problems gripping anything,specially the fretboard of the =
gutiar or even holding a glass full of water
> this seems to be a common problem not only with tennis players or =
golfers but also with guitarrists,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.
> im currently doing a therapy but i question its effectiveness
> Has anybody suffered from this? what kind of solutions did you find or =
would recommend?
> thanx!
> Luis

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Very funny, Bill  :-)


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This is what I'm currently suffering from , so I decided to quit  
playing miniature golf altogether......

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=0ALuis, I wish you a quick recovery. And Rick, I thank you for sharing you=
r wisdom. I have been wracked with chronic pain since my mid-teens and have=
 gotten relief from many of the things you mention. Then there's the stuff =
I haven't tried yet, like acupuncture. NEXT STOP: ACUPUNCTURE! Again, thank=
s!=0A=0A=0ATim Mungenast=0AEditor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/t=
immungenast=0AGuitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenas=
t=0A=0A=0A--- On Sun, 12/9/12, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:=0A=
=0A> From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>=0A> Subject: Re: Tennis Elbow=
=0A> To: "Luis Angulo" <louie.angulo@yahoo.com>, "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)=
" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0A> Date: Sunday, December 9, 2012,=
 7:10 AM=0A> Hi Luis,=0A> =0A> Over Use Syndrome is very common with anyone=
 who does=0A> anything over and over and over.=A0 It can come from=0A> typi=
ng;=A0 texting on a cell phone;=A0 playing=0A> tennis;=A0 playing guitar...=
........anything where=0A> thousands of motions occur=0A> daily.=0A> =0A> F=
rom my knowledge of it (and I've professionally helped a=0A> half a dozen d=
rummers with this problem=0A> to get back to equilibrium),=A0=A0=A0all musc=
les=0A> work in the same way:=0A> =0A> Namely,=A0 when you make a motion wi=
th your wrists,=0A> ankles, elbows, knees, et. al.=A0 =A0 one muscle=0A> st=
retches on one side of the bone and a compensatory muscle=0A> contracts on =
the other side.=0A> =0A> I'm a lay person and not a doctor, obviously,=A0 b=
ut I've=0A> encountered these problems so many times=0A> that I've learned =
a lot about it................so take this=0A> with a grain of salt, but I =
promise, there is some wisdom=0A> in what I say.=0A> =0A> What happens in O=
ver Use Syndrome is that=A0 one makes=0A> hundreds of movements in one dire=
ction;=0A> meaning that one muscle is always stretching while it's=0A> comp=
ensatory muscle is contracting but=0A> the same amount of motion is not hap=
pening in the opposite=0A> direction.=0A> =0A> So,=A0 when you are in a pla=
ce where your muscles are=0A> inflamed chronically,=A0 one has to do a few=
=0A> things:=0A> =0A> 1)=A0=A0=A0Refrain from the motion that exacerbates=
=0A> the condition until the pain and the swelling go away.=0A> It may be e=
fficacious to ice your inflammation (but be sure=0A> never to ice more than=
 20 minutes at a time because you can=0A> injure you muscles by freezing th=
em just as surely as you=0A> can by overusing them.=0A> =0A> This may take =
a long time.=A0=A0=A0It might mean=0A> not picking up glasses;=A0=A0=A0not =
playing guitar=0A> or anything=0A> that exacerbates the condition..........=
.This one is tough,=0A> but you may just have to do it.=0A> =0A> 2)=A0=A0=
=A0Your convalescence can be assisted with=0A> the use of anti-inflammatory=
 drugs (as simple as=0A> Aspirin or Motrin) and/or Cortical Steroids.=A0 =
=A0=0A> Cortical Steroids can radically reduce inflammation but=0A> they al=
so have a lot of potential side effects that are not=0A> great.=A0 =A0 The =
last time I took them for an=0A> chronic=0A> infected sinus condition,=A0 I=
 started having bruising=0A> all over my body at the very=A0 slightest of=
=0A> trauma.=A0=A0=A0Some people even believe that the=0A> constant use of =
Cortical Steroids can lead to=0A> Cancer...............others site what's c=
alled a 'rebound=0A> effect' which means that the inflamation goes away unt=
il the=0A> stoppage of the drug and then returns even greater.=A0=0A> Perso=
nally,=A0 I avoid them like the plague, but they can=0A> save someone who h=
as Lupus from death.=0A> =0A> 3)=A0 Go to an Acupuncturist.=A0 =A0 Chinese=
=0A> medicine has a great track record with over use conditions=0A> compare=
d to=0A> Western medicine which frequently only advocates ceasing any=0A> e=
xacerbating motion or drugs.=A0 =A0 This may take=0A> some time and some mo=
ney, but the quicker you convalesce,=0A> the better.=A0=A0=A0As an alternat=
ive,=A0 a=0A> really good Chiropractor may be able to assist you , as well=
=0A> as a good trained Physical Therapist who specializes in=0A> precisely =
what you suffer from.=0A> =0A> 4)=A0 Once you start to feel=0A> better,=A0=
=A0=A0look at the kinds of motions that=0A> are making your condition worse=
 and see if you can figure=0A> out a set of exercises that will stretch you=
r muscles in=0A> EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION than the motions that are=
=0A> causing your problems.=A0=A0=A0In the long=0A> run,=A0 this is super i=
mportant.=A0 I can't more=0A> highly stress it.=0A> =0A> Towards that end, =
with Hand and Finger=0A> pain,=A0=A0=A0the Chinese make little silver and=
=0A> enamel covered small balls which are designed, specifically,=0A> to be=
 rotated inside of the palm.=A0=A0=A0Rotate=0A> them around each other insi=
de of your palm in a clock wise=0A> direction for 20 times and then rotate =
them around each=0A> other inside of your palm in a counter-clockwise direc=
tion=0A> for another 20 times.=A0=A0=A0By doing this,=A0=0A> you are actual=
ly using every single set of major muscles in=0A> your hands, equally.=0A> =
=0A> My wife had Over Use Syndrome,=A0 playing too much=0A> guitar;=A0 typi=
ng incessantly on a computer keyboard and=0A> finally, trying to lay some b=
ass guitar licks on her=0A> album.=A0 =A0 Her hands were in such pain that =
she=0A> could hardly do anything...........................She=0A> stopped =
all her activity and started using these Chinese=0A> balls and almost mirac=
ulously,=A0 she came back to being=0A> able to play and type again without =
pain.=0A> =0A> The trick is committing to using your muscles in exactly the=
=0A> opposite directions=A0 than the directions used with=0A> whatever has =
caused you the most pain.=0A> =0A> 5)=A0=A0=A0Lastly,=A0 Western Medicine w=
ill=0A> advocate surgery.=A0 With chronic wrist injuries they=0A> will advo=
cate for=0A> Carpal Tunnel Syndrome surgery.=A0 =A0 My=0A> acupuncturist ha=
s told me, "always make this the very last=0A> resort=0A> to such a problem=
."=A0 =A0 =A0 I know a=0A> professional drummer who traveled all the way fr=
om Hawaii=0A> because he had heard that I was having good luck with=0A> re-=
training drummers in how to change their habits so that=0A> they were no lo=
nger having Over Use Syndrome.=A0 =A0=0A> He already had Carpal Tunnel surg=
ery scheduled if working=0A> with me didn't work out.=A0 =A0 I just sat dow=
n and=0A> watched him play and saw immediately where the physical=0A> dysfu=
nction in his technique was.=0A> I got him to change the position of his le=
ft wrist so when=0A> he hit his brutal 'backbeats' that his hand was not be=
nt at=0A> the wrist when he struck.=A0 =A0 It took him two weeks=0A> of wor=
king with me and he cancelled his surgery and now hes'=0A> doing great with=
out pain.=0A> =0A> All I did was look at him, physically, and I could see w=
hat=0A> he was doing to hurt himself.=0A> =0A> So, think about videoing you=
rself to see where you are=0A> making motions that are constantly going in =
one direction=0A> (with out a commensurate and exactly opposite movement to=
=0A> balance the motions out).=0A> =0A> Pick up that cup of coffee and have=
 your wife watch you do=0A> it. Figure out what the exact opposite movement=
 would be and=0A> develop a series of stretching exercise to do both before=
=0A> and after any repetitive stress motions (specifically,=0A> playing gui=
tar).=0A> =0A> 6) By the way,=A0 excessive consumption of Caffeine has=0A> =
been to joint pain and stiffness in the hands, so you might=0A> cut back on=
 your consumption of=0A> it.=A0=A0=A0Additionally,=A0 I've heard a lot of=
=0A> people have had good results in reducing inflamation of=0A> joints by =
consuming=A0 Glucosamine and=0A> Chondroitin.=A0=A0=A0I've also heard that =
taking=0A> Cod Liver Oil or other fish oils can have a salutary=0A> effect.=
=0A> =0A> 7) Lastly,=A0=A0=A0some motions are tied to=0A> tightness and lac=
k of flexibility in other parts of your=0A> back.=0A> If you have issues wi=
th tension , as an example, in your=0A> neck, your shoulders,=A0 the upper =
muscles of your back,=0A> they can have negative repercussions that will ef=
fect your=0A> arms, elbows, wrists and finally hands and fingers.=0A> =0A> =
Again,=A0 have somebody you know well watch you and=0A> notice where you te=
nd to keep your tension=0A> held.=A0=A0=A0Figure out what muscles=A0 you=0A=
> could stretch that go in the exact opposite direction of the=0A> muscles =
you use when you are=A0 'uptight' physically or=0A> emotionally.=0A> =0A> 8=
) Someone who's well trained in these things can talk to=0A> you for just a=
 few minutes and then watch you pick things=0A> up;=A0 play guitar, et. al.=
 and tell=A0 you what's up=0A> with your body.=A0 Don't be cheap!=A0=0A> =
=A0=A0=A0Spend some money to get a handle on it and=0A> it might just save =
your career as a professional musician=0A> before Over Use Syndrome knocks =
you out.=0A> =0A> 9) Lastly:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Years ago I had some=0A> really=
 problems with my lower and upper back.=A0 One=0A> morning I woke up unable=
 to get out of=0A> bed.=A0=A0=A0I went and saw a really good=0A> chiropract=
or and he hipped me to the fact that we need to=0A> stretch our basic muscl=
es in both directions to stay=0A> flexible and healthy.=A0 =A0 He told me t=
o go buy=0A> three meters of rubber surgical tubing (about 1/4" to 1/2"=0A>=
 in diameter and very flexible).=A0 He then showed me how=0A> you can roll =
it in each of your hands and then stretch it=0A> out by putting your hands =
in back of your head,=A0 in=0A> front of your heads;=A0=A0=A0stretching in =
every=0A> single direction up and down and sideways in both in front=0A> an=
d in back of your head.=A0=A0=A0By doing this,=0A> you are stretching all o=
f those muscles in all=0A> directions.=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0I started doing=0A> =
it and it was almost miraculous.=A0=A0=A0My back=0A> pain went away and has=
 rarely come back.=A0 When it=0A> does,=A0 it's usually because I've stoppe=
d doing those=0A> exercise.=A0 It literally only takes 20 to 30 seconds a=
=0A> day and is a great way to wake up in the morning.=0A> =0A> I hope some=
 of this helps.=A0=A0=A0Again,=A0 I'm=0A> not an expert, but I researched i=
t a lot and these things=0A> seems to work.=0A> =0A> Good luck,=A0 buddy!!!=
!!=A0=A0=A0You are a=0A> wonderful musician and I hope this doesn't impede =
your=0A> artistry for too long.=0A> =0A> Rick=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> 

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thanks for recommendation,
currently reading.

Would be a useful reference for anyone wanting to know
how the different techniques/programs sounded (with examples),
...or just the history/theory stuff

Don't let equations put you off...just skip them.


andy

Sylvain Poitras wrote:
> His book is 
> excellent:http://books.google.ca/books/about/Microsound.html?id=YxnqcAR7xjkC
> But very technical...  not for folks who dislike equations.
> Sylvain
> 

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I can vouch for those rubber tubes, they're great to work out underused
muscles.  Make sure to put ice over all sore areas after the rubber band
sessions.  A physiotherapist can give a set of exercises that deals
specifically with the issues you're having.  Also, I remember a book
someone recommended to me a few years ago about ergonomics for musicians,
but I can't recall the title (playing without pain?).
Sylvain

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Luis Angulo wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> since august i stated having pains im my left arm,specially around my 
> elbow and wrist.
> I have problems gripping anything,specially the fretboard of the gutiar 
> or even holding a glass full of water
> this seems to be a common problem not only with tennis players or 
> golfers but also with guitarrists,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.
> im currently doing a therapy but i question its effectiveness
> Has anybody suffered from this? what kind of solutions did you find or 
> would recommend?
> thanx!
> Luis
>  
> http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


Locate a good Chinese acupunture specialist with many years of experience.
Traditional western doctors who's taken a course generally do not understand 
those techniques due to mindset limitations from the traditional education.

-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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Hi Bill:

Please unsubscribe me from future emails at this time.
Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.




At 05:36 AM 12/9/2012, you wrote:
>http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/top20-11nov.html
>
>WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for November, 2012.
>Shows #813 to #817; 1-November-2012 to 29-November-2012
>Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order.
>Compiled by Bill Fox
>
>The Special Focus for November was Palancar.
>http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#nov
>
>ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
>========================================================================
>Andy Pickford - Jern - none
>Chuck van Zyl - Cenotaph - Synkronos
>Dan Pound - Return To Other Worlds - Poundsounds
>Gordon Simmons - Solitary Journey - none
>Hunter and Harrison - Phase 1 - Music with Space
>Keith Berry - the ear that was sold to a fish -  Infraction
>Kevin Keller - The Day I Met Myself - none
>Mark Mosher - no ghosts_ just fear - none
>Mystified - Breathe Beyond - Parkbench
>Mythos - Surround Sound Evolution - Sireena
>Palancar - Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume One - Blue Water
>Palancar - Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Three - Blue Water
>Palancar - Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two - Blue Water
>Palancar - Serenetatis - Earth Mantra
>Palancar - Vast - MP3.COM
>Parallel Worlds and Dave Bessell - Morphogenic - DiN
>Ray Carl Daye - Rapid Ear Movement - Magnatune
>Robert Schroeder - Ferro OXID - Spheric Music
>Vic Hennegan - Nebula Waves - Alien Tribes
>['ramp] - astral disaster - doombient
>
>Bill
>========================================================================
>Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
>Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
>Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
>Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
>on 88.1 FM.
>Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
>Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki/doku.php?id=3Dproducts:usine_hollyhock

I saw on kvr that the new version of Usine will be for mac too. Might be =
a new option to try for the laptop loopers. Seems similar to Bidule =
where you wire up your devices.
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</a><div><br></div><div>I saw on kvr that the new version of Usine will =
be for mac too. Might be a new option to try for the laptop loopers. =
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Hello Luis!
Rick's answer is amazing (Rick=2C one more and it was the ten commandments!=
). I am not expert but almost all what he says sounds very right to me.I ca=
n suggest you 2 things as antiinflamatory:1) harpagofito procumbens (or Har=
pagophytum Procumbens) in spanish it is Garra del diablo. It is a plant=2C =
you can find pills or "tintura madre"=2C the idroalcoolic extract2) sealion=
 oil. It is an animal=2C so I never took it for animalist reasons (especial=
ly because=2C come on=2C it is like a seal with ears=2C how do you want the=
m to be able to make oil out of them without hunting and killing them?). Bu=
t I have been told from people whose knowledge I trust a lot=2C that it is =
very good for nflamations
Then=2C el cartilago de tiburon (shark cartilage) seems to be helpful to re=
generate damaged tissue of articulations.
I vote for the acupunctur and a osteopath/kiropracticeI loved this ball of =
the video which somebody sent. I am seriously thinking about getting one=2C=
 to increase the blod circulation on the hands (which I always have very co=
ld).
Que te sanes!Ser
Date: Sun=2C 9 Dec 2012 01:10:19 -0800
From: louie.angulo@yahoo.com
Subject: Tennis Elbow
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hi Folks=2Csince august i stated having pains im my left arm=2Cspecially ar=
ound my elbow and wrist.I have problems gripping anything=2Cspecially the f=
retboard of the gutiar or even holding a glass full of water
this seems to be a common problem not only with tennis players or golfers b=
ut also with
 guitarrists=2Ccelloists=2Cvilolinists=2Cdrummers etc.im currently doing a =
therapy but i question its effectiveness
Has anybody suffered from this? what kind of solutions did you find or woul=
d recommend?thanx!Luis http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom 		 	   		  =

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Hello Luis!<div><br></div><div>Rick's answer is amazing (Rick=2C one more a=
nd it was the ten commandments!). I am not expert but almost all what he sa=
ys sounds very right to me.</div><div>I can suggest you 2 things as antiinf=
lamatory:</div><div>1) harpagofito procumbens (or Harpagophytum Procumbens)=
 in spanish it is Garra del diablo. It is a plant=2C you can find pills or =
"tintura madre"=2C the idroalcoolic extract</div><div>2) sealion oil. It is=
 an animal=2C so I never took it for animalist reasons (especially because=
=2C come on=2C it is like a seal with ears=2C how do you want them to be ab=
le to make oil out of them without hunting and killing them?). But I have b=
een told from people whose knowledge I trust a lot=2C that it is very good =
for nflamations</div><div><br></div><div>Then=2C el cartilago de tiburon (s=
hark cartilage) seems to be helpful to regenerate damaged tissue of articul=
ations.</div><div><br></div><div>I vote for the acupunctur and a osteopath/=
kiropractice</div><div>I loved this ball of the video which somebody sent. =
I am seriously thinking about getting one=2C to increase the blod circulati=
on on the hands (which I always have very cold).</div><div><br></div><div>Q=
ue te sanes!</div><div>Ser</div><div><br><div><div id=3D"SkyDrivePlaceholde=
r"></div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date: Sun=2C 9 Dec 2012 01:10:19 -0800<br>=
From: louie.angulo@yahoo.com<br>Subject: Tennis Elbow<br>To: Loopers-Deligh=
t@loopers-delight.com<br><br><div style=3D"color:#000=3Bbackground-color:#f=
ff=3Bfont-family:times new roman=2C new york=2C times=2C serif=3Bfont-size:=
12pt"><div><span>Hi Folks=2C</span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0=2C 0=2C =
0)=3Bfont-size:16px=3Bfont-family:times new roman=2Cnew york=2Ctimes=2Cseri=
f=3Bbackground-color:transparent=3Bfont-style:normal"><span>since august i =
stated having pains im my left arm=2Cspecially around my elbow and wrist.</=
span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3Bfont-size:16px=3Bfont-fam=
ily:times new roman=2Cnew york=2Ctimes=2Cserif=3Bbackground-color:transpare=
nt=3Bfont-style:normal"><span>I have problems gripping anything=2Cspecially=
 the fretboard of the gutiar or even holding a glass full of water<br></spa=
n></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3Bfont-size:16px=3Bfont-family=
:times new roman=2Cnew york=2Ctimes=2Cserif=3Bbackground-color:transparent=
=3Bfont-style:normal"><span>this seems to be a common problem not only with=
 tennis players or golfers but also with
 guitarrists=2Ccelloists=2Cvilolinists=2Cdrummers etc.</span></div><div sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3Bfont-size:16px=3Bfont-family:times new roman=
=2Cnew york=2Ctimes=2Cserif=3Bbackground-color:transparent=3Bfont-style:nor=
mal"><span>im currently doing a therapy but i question its effectiveness<br=
></span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3Bfont-size:16px=3Bfont-=
family:times new roman=2Cnew york=2Ctimes=2Cserif=3Bbackground-color:transp=
arent=3Bfont-style:normal"><span>Has anybody suffered from this? what kind =
of solutions did you find or would recommend?</span></div><div style=3D"col=
or:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3Bfont-size:16px=3Bfont-family:times new roman=2Cnew yo=
rk=2Ctimes=2Cserif=3Bbackground-color:transparent=3Bfont-style:normal"><spa=
n>thanx!</span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3Bfont-size:16px=
=3Bfont-family:times new roman=2Cnew york=2Ctimes=2Cserif=3Bbackground-colo=
r:transparent=3Bfont-style:normal"><span>Luis</span></div><div>&nbsp=3B</di=
v><div>http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom</div></div></div></div> 		 	   =
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Ok=2C this is serendipity :)
In the last two days I am totally obsessed with this song: http://www.youtu=
be.com/watch?v=3DfX0B9ZpdZEA
I must say=2C I am a bit emotional lately=2C because I am in love. And this=
 song get to move me deeply.So I am at first willing to make them know to m=
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to ask you=2C beloved musician of this list=2C for suggestions of other son=
gs which can move as much as this can.I remember to have been moved by many=
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But=2C in order to create a true=2C sincere=2C pure=2C elevated=2C deeply e=
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cradling =3B)
And I confirm=2C love is the only thing which moves me more than music.
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 this list=2C for suggestions of other songs which can move as much as this=
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f tears.</div><div>In this moment=2C though=2C I can't think to another mor=
e powerful than this.</div><div><br></div><div>But=2C in order to create a =
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would never ever ever ever ever include things like "all by myself" please=
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On Dec 9, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote:

> please, I ask you to contribute


I find this song very moving:
Prayer by Keith Jarrett

Here is the song
http://www.amazon.com/Prayer/dp/B001NT7L6I

They show it as  - 'buy the album' "The Impulse Years"

But it is really from the album Death & the Flower
http://www.amazon.com/Death-And-The-Flower/dp/B001NTYN2I/ref=tmm_other_meta_binding_title_0

which is a great album.


regards


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moving:</div><div>Prayer by Keith Jarrett</div><div><br></div><div>Here =
is the song</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/Prayer/dp/B001NT7L6I">http://www.amazon.com/=
Prayer/dp/B001NT7L6I</a></div><div><br></div><div>They show it as =
&nbsp;- 'buy the album' "The Impulse Years"</div><div><br></div><div>But =
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On 12/9/2012 10:51 AM, van Sinn wrote:
> Locate a good Chinese acupunture specialist with many years of 
> experience.
> Traditional western doctors who's taken a course generally do not 
> understand those techniques due to mindset limitations from the 
> traditional education.
>
> *In general,  I agree with you, van Sinn but in the area I live in 
> (roughly the SF Bay Area) there are an increasing number of very hip 
> young doctors who either have degrees in Western Medicine AND 
> Acupuncture or who , like **my personal Western physician,  are very 
> open minded about alternate modalities of healing.
>
> My own physician,  Thomas McGuire, M.D., as an example,  will not 
> prescribe anti-biotics to me if I have an infection and have not 
> already  1) done my sinus washes faithfully and 2) taken all of my 
> Chinese Herbs as my Acupuncturist, Elsa Etcheverry has taught me to 
> do.     He probably won't go so far as to recommend a good 
> chiropractor but we're working on him  <big grin>
>
> I realize that we live in an anomylous area.  This are is, truly,  a 
> center of dozens of different holistic healing modalities and Western 
> Medicine (with famous world class programs at Stanford and USF) but i 
> think that this healing conciousness is growing all over the planet.
>
> I'm curious about everyone elses experience.
>
>
> /R.*


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/9/2012 10:51 AM, van Sinn wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:%3C50C4DDA5.1020305@post.cybercity.dk%3E"
      type="cite">Locate a good Chinese acupunture specialist with many
      years of experience.
      <br>
      Traditional western doctors who's taken a course generally do not
      understand those techniques due to mindset limitations from the
      traditional education.
      <br>
      <br>
      <b>In general,&nbsp; I agree with you, van Sinn but in the area I live
        in (roughly the SF Bay Area) there are an increasing number of
        very hip young doctors who either have degrees in Western
        Medicine AND Acupuncture or who , like </b><b>my personal Western
        physician,&nbsp; are very open minded about alternate modalities of
        healing.<br>
        <br>
        My own physician,&nbsp; Thomas McGuire, M.D., as an example,&nbsp; will
        not prescribe anti-biotics to me if I have an infection and have
        not already&nbsp; 1) done my sinus washes faithfully and 2) taken all
        of my Chinese Herbs as my Acupuncturist, Elsa Etcheverry has
        taught me to do.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; He probably won't go so far as to recommend
        a good chiropractor but we're working on him&nbsp; &lt;big grin&gt;<br>
        <br>
        I realize that we live in an anomylous area.&nbsp; This are is,
        truly,&nbsp; a center of dozens of different holistic healing
        modalities and Western Medicine (with famous world class
        programs at Stanford and USF) but i think that this healing conciousness
        is growing all over the planet.<br>
        <br>
        I'm curious about everyone elses experience.<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        /R.</b><br>
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Several people have mentioned they found this book helpful:


Pain Free: A Revolutionary Method for Stopping Chronic Pain by Peter  
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Wow, I hadn't heard of elbow before, but I was blown away. Thanks!

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, this is serendipity :)
>
> In the last two days I am totally obsessed with this song:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX0B9ZpdZEA
>
> I must say, I am a bit emotional lately, because I am in love. And this song
> get to move me deeply.
> So I am at first willing to make them know to more people because no idea if
> they did other good songs but only for this they would deserve the nobel for
> emotionality.
> And, second, I would like to ask you, beloved musician of this list, for
> suggestions of other songs which can move as much as this can.
> I remember to have been moved by many song till the point of tears.
> In this moment, though, I can't think to another more powerful than this.
>
> But, in order to create a true, sincere, pure, elevated, deeply emotional
> tracklist, which would never ever ever ever ever include things like "all by
> myself" please, I ask you to contribute to my knowledge of highly emotional
> songs/themes, so that I can feed my struggling, and my cradling ;)
>
> And I confirm, love is the only thing which moves me more than music.
>
> Ser



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onality.=0AAnd, second, I would like to ask you, beloved musician of this l=
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ways loved his voice,this tune reminds me of the moody blues</span></div><d=
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m a bit emotional lately, because I am in love. And this song get to move m=
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le because no idea if they did other good songs but only for this they woul=
d deserve the nobel for emotionality.</div><div>And, second, I would like t=
o ask you, beloved musician of this list, for suggestions of other songs wh=
ich can move as much as this can.</div><div>I remember to have been moved b=
y many song till the point of tears.</div><div>In this moment, though, I ca=
n't think to another more powerful than this.</div><div><br></div><div>But,=
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list, which
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 so that I can feed my struggling, and my&nbsp;cradling&nbsp;;)</div><div><=
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Gracias Sergio!=0A=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A___=
_____________________________=0A From: Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.c=
om>=0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Monday, December 10,=
 2012 2:56 AM=0ASubject: RE: Tennis Elbow=0A =0A=0A =0AHello Luis!=0A=0ARic=
k's answer is amazing (Rick, one more and it was the ten commandments!). I =
am not expert but almost all what he says sounds very right to me.=0AI can =
suggest you 2 things as antiinflamatory:=0A1) harpagofito procumbens (or Ha=
rpagophytum Procumbens) in spanish it is Garra del diablo. It is a plant, y=
ou can find pills or "tintura madre", the idroalcoolic extract=0A2) sealion=
 oil. It is an animal, so I never took it for animalist reasons (especially=
 because, come on, it is like a seal with ears, how do you want them to be =
able to make oil out of them without hunting and killing them?). But I have=
 been told from people whose knowledge I trust a lot, that it is very good =
for nflamations=0A=0AThen, el cartilago de tiburon (shark cartilage) seems =
to be helpful to regenerate damaged tissue of articulations.=0A=0AI vote fo=
r the acupunctur and a osteopath/kiropractice=0AI loved this ball of the vi=
deo which somebody sent. I am seriously thinking about getting one, to incr=
ease the blod circulation on the hands (which I always have very cold).=0A=
=0AQue te sanes!=0ASer=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ADate: =
Sun, 9 Dec 2012 01:10:19 -0800=0AFrom: louie.angulo@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Te=
nnis Elbow=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A=0A=0AHi Folks,=0Asi=
nce august i stated having pains im my left arm,specially around my elbow a=
nd wrist.=0AI have problems gripping anything,specially the fretboard of th=
e gutiar or even holding a glass full of water=0A=0Athis seems to be a comm=
on problem not only with tennis players or golfers but also with guitarrist=
s,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.=0Aim currently doing a therapy but i =
question its effectiveness=0A=0AHas anybody suffered from this? what kind o=
f solutions did you find or would recommend?=0Athanx!=0ALuis=0A=A0=0Ahttp:/=
/www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Gracias Se=
rgio!<br></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>http://www.myspace.com/luisangu=
locom<br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, time=
s, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, ne=
w york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Ar=
ial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From=
:</span></b> Sergio Girardi &lt;simpliflying@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> loopers-delight@loopers-delight.co=
m <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, Decem=
ber 10, 2012 2:56 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</sp=
an></b> RE: Tennis Elbow<br> </font> </div> <br><div id=3D"yiv1497637003">=
=0A=0A<style><!--=0A#yiv1497637003 .yiv1497637003hmmessage P=0A{=0Amargin:0=
px;padding:0px;}=0A#yiv1497637003 body.yiv1497637003hmmessage=0A{=0Afont-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}=0A--></style>=0A<div><div dir=3D"ltr">=0AHello=
 Luis!<div><br></div><div>Rick's answer is amazing (Rick, one more and it w=
as the ten commandments!). I am not expert but almost all what he says soun=
ds very right to me.</div><div>I can suggest you 2 things as antiinflamator=
y:</div><div>1) harpagofito procumbens (or Harpagophytum Procumbens) in spa=
nish it is Garra del diablo. It is a plant, you can find pills or "tintura =
madre", the idroalcoolic extract</div><div>2) sealion oil. It is an animal,=
 so I never took it for animalist reasons (especially because, come on, it =
is like a seal with ears, how do you want them to be able to make oil out o=
f them without hunting and killing them?). But I have been told from people=
 whose knowledge I trust a lot, that it is very good for nflamations</div><=
div><br></div><div>Then, el cartilago de tiburon (shark cartilage) seems to=
 be helpful to regenerate damaged tissue of articulations.</div><div><br></=
div><div>I vote for the acupunctur and a
 osteopath/kiropractice</div><div>I loved this ball of the video which some=
body sent. I am seriously thinking about getting one, to increase the blod =
circulation on the hands (which I always have very cold).</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Que te sanes!</div><div>Ser</div><div><br><div><div id=3D"yiv149763=
7003SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id=3D"yiv1497637003stopSpelling">Date: S=
un, 9 Dec 2012 01:10:19 -0800<br>From: louie.angulo@yahoo.com<br>Subject: T=
ennis Elbow<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><br><div style=3D=
"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, ti=
mes, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>Hi Folks,</span></div><div style=3D"=
color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, ti=
mes, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>since aug=
ust i stated having pains im my left arm,specially around my elbow and wris=
t.</span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0,
 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;back=
ground-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>I have problems gripping=
 anything,specially the fretboard of the gutiar or even holding a glass ful=
l of water<br></span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;=
font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transp=
arent;font-style:normal;"><span>this seems to be a common problem not only =
with tennis players or golfers but also with=0A guitarrists,celloists,vilol=
inists,drummers etc.</span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size=
:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:=
transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>im currently doing a therapy but i qu=
estion its effectiveness<br></span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);f=
ont-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Has anybody suffered from thi=
s? what kind of solutions did you find or would recommend?</span></div><div=
 style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, ne=
w york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span=
>thanx!</span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-fa=
mily:times new roman, new york, times,
 serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Luis</span></=
div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom</div></div><=
/div></div> =09=09 =09   =09=09  </div></div>=0A</div><br><br> </div> </div=
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Hi Bill, im sorry to hear that bro i hope your pain heels quickly as well=
=0Awe aint gettin any younger and thats the truth;-)=0AI have 2 Ethos so im=
 selling one and keeping one=0ANo way im getting rid of it,i love it!!=0Ach=
eers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A____=
____________________________=0A From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.co=
m>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Sunday, December 9, 2=
012 5:45 PM=0ASubject: RE: Miniature Golf Knee=0A =0AThis is what I'm curre=
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r. Sure I miss it but I feel better now. Seriously though, I too have been =
having repetitive stress issue the last few months from over playing stiffn=
ess and numbness in my hands and a=A0 cranky spot in my upper back that won=
t quite down. So thanks Rick and Andy for this excellent advice. Andy I'm r=
eally not responsible for Luis condition but I appreciate seeing my name in=
 print:-)=0ALuis , my=A0 Brother, take it easy and follow this good advice.=
 I'm sorry you are having to sell your ethos, are you moving in a different=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Hi Bill, im sorry to =
hear that bro i hope your pain heels quickly as well<br>we aint gettin any =
younger and thats the truth;-)<br>I have 2 Ethos so im selling one and keep=
ing one<br>No way im getting rid of it,i love it!!<br>cheers<br>Luis<br><di=
v><span><br></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>http://www.myspace.com/luisa=
ngulocom<br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, t=
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style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=
.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, De=
cember 9,
 2012 5:45 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>=
 RE: Miniature Golf Knee<br> </font> </div> <br>This is what I'm currently =
suffering from , so I decided to quit playing miniature golf altogether. Su=
re I miss it but I feel better now. Seriously though, I too have been havin=
g repetitive stress issue the last few months from over playing stiffness a=
nd numbness in my hands and a&nbsp; cranky spot in my upper back that wont =
quite down. So thanks Rick and Andy for this excellent advice. Andy I'm rea=
lly not responsible for Luis condition but I appreciate seeing my name in p=
rint:-)<br>Luis , my&nbsp; Brother, take it easy and follow this good advic=
e. I'm sorry you are having to sell your ethos, are you moving in a differe=
nt direction or just needing funds?<br>Take care<br> Bill<br><br><br><br> <=
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? what kind of solutions did you find or would recommend?


Er... go to the Doctor?

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I have to say, Sergio,  that I"m in love with the group,   'Elbow'

I'm astonished that hardly anyone knows them in the United States.

My wife and I drove all the way to Los Angeles to see them one time.  We 
got in our car and drove
6 1/2 hours,  saw them and got back in the car and drove 6 1/2 hours 
back,  getting back
around 7 a.m. in the morning.       We talked the entire way in both 
directions;  didn't even listen to
music.    That was a day that convinced me how much I love this woman.

I'm glad to hear you are in love, Sergio.      That's a beautiful thing!

Rick Walker

On 12/9/2012 6:04 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote:
> Ok, this is serendipity :)
>
> In the last two days I am totally obsessed with this song: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX0B9ZpdZEA
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have to say, Sergio,&nbsp; that I"m in
      love with the group,&nbsp;&nbsp; 'Elbow'<br>
      <br>
      I'm astonished that hardly anyone knows them in the United States.<br>
      <br>
      My wife and I drove all the way to Los Angeles to see them one
      time.&nbsp; We got in our car and drove <br>
      6 1/2 hours,&nbsp; saw them and got back in the car and drove 6 1/2
      hours back,&nbsp; getting back <br>
      around 7 a.m. in the morning.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We talked the entire way in
      both directions;&nbsp; didn't even listen to <br>
      music.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; That was a day that convinced me how much I love this
      woman.<br>
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      thing!<br>
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On 12/9/2012 8:46 PM, Art Simon wrote:
> Wow, I hadn't heard of elbow before, but I was blown away. Thanks!
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok, this is serendipity :)
>>
>> In the last two days I am totally obsessed with this song:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX0B9ZpdZEA
>>
>> I must say, I am a bit emotional lately, because I am in love. And this song
>> get to move me deeply.
>> So I am at first willing to make them know to more people because no idea if
>> they did other good songs but only for this they would deserve the nobel for
>> emotionality.
>> And, second, I would like to ask you, beloved musician of this list, for
>> suggestions of other songs which can move as much as this can.
>> I remember to have been moved by many song till the point of tears.
>> In this moment, though, I can't think to another more powerful than this.
>>
>> But, in order to create a true, sincere, pure, elevated, deeply emotional
>> tracklist, which would never ever ever ever ever include things like "all by
>> myself" please, I ask you to contribute to my knowledge of highly emotional
>> songs/themes, so that I can feed my struggling, and my cradling ;)
>>
>> And I confirm, love is the only thing which moves me more than music.
>>
>> Ser
>
>
Art,   their first three albums are AMAZING!!!!!     Frankly,  I've not 
been as impressed with the last one but
it still is better than 95% of the swill out there in pop these days.

Listen to the album "Leaders of the Free World"...............just awesome!

To me, they are not unlike the Beatles if the Beatles had been from far 
Northern Britain and
had been a little darker and more melancholic.    Their productions are 
amazing and they take lots
of chances with found sounds and weird production techniques.   I think 
that their singer also has one
of the most beautiful voices in pop today.    He sings BETTER in concert 
than on record if you can believe that.

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they are really cool i do this one live cause i felt in love once again=0A=
=0A=0Ahttp://www.jukebo.de/elbow/videoclip,an-imagined-affair,r3vkl.html=0A=
=0Aget leaders of the free world you too will fall in love again!=0A=0A=0A=
=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A___________________________=
_____=0A From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>=0ATo: Art Simon <simart@gm=
ail.com>; LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> =
=0ASent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:47 AM=0ASubject: Re: Re: Elbow "The Lo=
neliness of a Tower Crane Driver". Request of a list of deeply moving songs=
.=0A =0AOn 12/9/2012 8:46 PM, Art Simon wrote:=0A> Wow, I hadn't heard of e=
lbow before, but I was blown away. Thanks!=0A>=0A> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6=
:04 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>> Ok, this is ser=
endipity :)=0A>>=0A>> In the last two days I am totally obsessed with this =
song:=0A>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfX0B9ZpdZEA=0A>>=0A>> I must sa=
y, I am a bit emotional lately, because I am in love. And this song=0A>> ge=
t to move me deeply.=0A>> So I am at first willing to make them know to mor=
e people because no idea if=0A>> they did other good songs but only for thi=
s they would deserve the nobel for=0A>> emotionality.=0A>> And, second, I w=
ould like to ask you, beloved musician of this list, for=0A>> suggestions o=
f other songs which can move as much as this can.=0A>> I remember to have b=
een moved by many song till the point of tears.=0A>> In this moment, though=
, I can't think to another more powerful than this.=0A>>=0A>> But, in order=
 to create a true, sincere, pure, elevated, deeply emotional=0A>> tracklist=
, which would never ever ever ever ever include things like "all by=0A>> my=
self" please, I ask you to contribute to my knowledge of highly emotional=
=0A>> songs/themes, so that I can feed my struggling, and my cradling ;)=0A=
>>=0A>> And I confirm, love is the only thing which moves me more than musi=
c.=0A>>=0A>> Ser=0A>=0A>=0AArt,=A0  their first three albums are AMAZING!!!=
!!=A0 =A0  Frankly,=A0 I've not =0Abeen as impressed with the last one but=
=0Ait still is better than 95% of the swill out there in pop these days.=0A=
=0AListen to the album "Leaders of the Free World"...............just aweso=
me!=0A=0ATo me, they are not unlike the Beatles if the Beatles had been fro=
m far =0ANorthern Britain and=0Ahad been a little darker and more melanchol=
ic.=A0 =A0 Their productions are =0Aamazing and they take lots=0Aof chances=
 with found sounds and weird production techniques.=A0  I think =0Athat the=
ir singer also has one=0Aof the most beautiful voices in pop today.=A0 =A0 =
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>they are r=
eally cool i do this one live cause i felt in love once again<br></span></d=
iv><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times n=
ew roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: n=
ormal;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size=
: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color=
: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>http://www.jukebo.de/elbow/videoc=
lip,an-imagined-affair,r3vkl.html</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; b=
ackground-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><=
div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new r=
oman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
 normal;"><span>get leaders of the free world you too will fall in love aga=
in!<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; fon=
t-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transpare=
nt; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0,=
 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;=
 background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div=
><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new=
 roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: nor=
mal;"><span></span>http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom<br></div>  <div sty=
le=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt=
;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; fon=
t-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=
=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Rick Walker
 &lt;looppool@cruzio.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:<=
/span></b> Art Simon &lt;simart@gmail.com&gt;; LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) &l=
t;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weigh=
t: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 10, 2012 7:47 AM<br> <b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Re: Elbow "The Loneline=
ss of a Tower Crane Driver". Request of a list of deeply moving songs.<br> =
</font> </div> <br>On 12/9/2012 8:46 PM, Art Simon wrote:<br>&gt; Wow, I ha=
dn't heard of elbow before, but I was blown away. Thanks!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; O=
n Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Sergio Girardi &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simp=
liflying@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:simpliflying@gmail.com">simpliflying@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; Ok, this is serendipity :)<br>&gt;&gt;<br=
>&gt;&gt; In the last two days I am totally obsessed with this song:<br>&gt=
;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfX0B9ZpdZEA"
 target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfX0B9ZpdZEA</a><br>&gt;=
&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I must say, I am a bit emotional lately, because I am in l=
ove. And this song<br>&gt;&gt; get to move me deeply.<br>&gt;&gt; So I am a=
t first willing to make them know to more people because no idea if<br>&gt;=
&gt; they did other good songs but only for this they would deserve the nob=
el for<br>&gt;&gt; emotionality.<br>&gt;&gt; And, second, I would like to a=
sk you, beloved musician of this list, for<br>&gt;&gt; suggestions of other=
 songs which can move as much as this can.<br>&gt;&gt; I remember to have b=
een moved by many song till the point of tears.<br>&gt;&gt; In this moment,=
 though, I can't think to another more powerful than this.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&=
gt;&gt; But, in order to create a true, sincere, pure, elevated, deeply emo=
tional<br>&gt;&gt; tracklist, which would never ever ever ever ever include=
 things like "all by<br>&gt;&gt; myself" please, I ask you to contribute
 to my knowledge of highly emotional<br>&gt;&gt; songs/themes, so that I ca=
n feed my struggling, and my cradling ;)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; And I conf=
irm, love is the only thing which moves me more than music.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>=
&gt;&gt; Ser<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>Art,&nbsp;  their first three albums are AM=
AZING!!!!!&nbsp; &nbsp;  Frankly,&nbsp; I've not <br>been as impressed with=
 the last one but<br>it still is better than 95% of the swill out there in =
pop these days.<br><br>Listen to the album "Leaders of the Free World".....=
..........just awesome!<br><br>To me, they are not unlike the Beatles if th=
e Beatles had been from far <br>Northern Britain and<br>had been a little d=
arker and more melancholic.&nbsp; &nbsp; Their productions are <br>amazing =
and they take lots<br>of chances with found sounds and weird production tec=
hniques.&nbsp;  I think <br>that their singer also has one<br>of the most b=
eautiful voices in pop today.&nbsp; &nbsp; He sings BETTER in
 concert <br>than on record if you can believe that.<br><br>yours,&nbsp;  R=
ick<br><br><br><br><br> </div> </div>  </div></body></html>
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van Sinn wrote:

> Locate a good Chinese acupunture specialist with many years of experience.
> Traditional western doctors who's taken a course generally do not 
> understand those techniques due to mindset limitations from the 
> traditional education.

Main reason acupuncture is not understood is because the "theory" behind it
is total fantasy.
(and also it's claimed to cure almost anything...that's usually
  a sure sign that a treatment cures nothing)


It does produce bio-feedback, as a tense muscle hurts when pinned
and a relaxed one doesn't, so it *could* be understood as a relaxation aid.
...but this is unrecognised by both 
traditional and alternative .



It's true a doctor won't be able to help (of course), hopefully they 
are knowledgeable enough to refer to a physiotherapist.
In UK at least in order to get such a referal you'd likely need to
go to your GP primed with some facts to support your case.





andy

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'The Seldom Seen Kid' is an amazing album.  Every song it is brilliant.  My 
favourite is probably this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL4mywCOJXA

They're surely the most unlikely of stadium rockers but that's what they 
are on this side of the Atlantic.



--On 09 December 2012 22:47 -0800 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 12/9/2012 8:46 PM, Art Simon wrote:
>> Wow, I hadn't heard of elbow before, but I was blown away. Thanks!
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Ok, this is serendipity :)
>>>
>>> In the last two days I am totally obsessed with this song:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX0B9ZpdZEA
>>>
>>> I must say, I am a bit emotional lately, because I am in love. And this
>>> song get to move me deeply.
>>> So I am at first willing to make them know to more people because no
>>> idea if they did other good songs but only for this they would deserve
>>> the nobel for emotionality.
>>> And, second, I would like to ask you, beloved musician of this list, for
>>> suggestions of other songs which can move as much as this can.
>>> I remember to have been moved by many song till the point of tears.
>>> In this moment, though, I can't think to another more powerful than
>>> this.
>>>
>>> But, in order to create a true, sincere, pure, elevated, deeply
>>> emotional tracklist, which would never ever ever ever ever include
>>> things like "all by myself" please, I ask you to contribute to my
>>> knowledge of highly emotional songs/themes, so that I can feed my
>>> struggling, and my cradling ;)
>>>
>>> And I confirm, love is the only thing which moves me more than music.
>>>
>>> Ser
>>
>>
> Art,   their first three albums are AMAZING!!!!!     Frankly,  I've not
> been as impressed with the last one but
> it still is better than 95% of the swill out there in pop these days.
>
> Listen to the album "Leaders of the Free World"...............just
> awesome!
>
> To me, they are not unlike the Beatles if the Beatles had been from far
> Northern Britain and
> had been a little darker and more melancholic.    Their productions are
> amazing and they take lots
> of chances with found sounds and weird production techniques.   I think
> that their singer also has one
> of the most beautiful voices in pop today.    He sings BETTER in concert
> than on record if you can believe that.
>
> yours,   Rick
>
>




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I highly recommend this book, it is a tough read but has helped me with both foot and arm problems.

Eric





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>Several people have mentioned they found this book helpful:
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>Pain Free: A Revolutionary Method for Stopping Chronic Pain by Peter Egoscue and Roger Gittines
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<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">I highly recommend this book, it is a tough read but has helped me with both foot and arm problems.<br><br>Eric<br><div><span></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">  <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> RP Collier &lt;skeptikalist@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 9, 2012 11:37 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
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<div id="yiv268455181"><div><br><div><div><span class="yiv268455181Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><br>Several people have mentioned they found this book helpful:</span></div><div><span class="yiv268455181Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv268455181Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv268455181Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;">Pain Free: A Revolutionary Method for Stopping Chronic Pain by Peter Egoscue and Roger Gittines</span></div><div><span class="yiv268455181Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><br></span></div><div><font class="yiv268455181Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font
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Hey Rick,

Thanks for the album recommendations, will check them out pronto. Very cool!

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On 12/9/2012 8:46 PM, Art Simon wrote:
>>
>> Wow, I hadn't heard of elbow before, but I was blown away. Thanks!
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, this is serendipity :)
>>>
>>> In the last two days I am totally obsessed with this song:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX0B9ZpdZEA
>>>
>>> I must say, I am a bit emotional lately, because I am in love. And this
>>> song
>>> get to move me deeply.
>>> So I am at first willing to make them know to more people because no idea
>>> if
>>> they did other good songs but only for this they would deserve the nobel
>>> for
>>> emotionality.
>>> And, second, I would like to ask you, beloved musician of this list, for
>>> suggestions of other songs which can move as much as this can.
>>> I remember to have been moved by many song till the point of tears.
>>> In this moment, though, I can't think to another more powerful than this.
>>>
>>> But, in order to create a true, sincere, pure, elevated, deeply emotional
>>> tracklist, which would never ever ever ever ever include things like "all
>>> by
>>> myself" please, I ask you to contribute to my knowledge of highly
>>> emotional
>>> songs/themes, so that I can feed my struggling, and my cradling ;)
>>>
>>> And I confirm, love is the only thing which moves me more than music.
>>>
>>> Ser
>>
>>
>>
> Art,   their first three albums are AMAZING!!!!!     Frankly,  I've not been
> as impressed with the last one but
> it still is better than 95% of the swill out there in pop these days.
>
> Listen to the album "Leaders of the Free World"...............just awesome!
>
> To me, they are not unlike the Beatles if the Beatles had been from far
> Northern Britain and
> had been a little darker and more melancholic.    Their productions are
> amazing and they take lots
> of chances with found sounds and weird production techniques.   I think that
> their singer also has one
> of the most beautiful voices in pop today.    He sings BETTER in concert
> than on record if you can believe that.
>
> yours,   Rick
>
>



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Wow, good thread, and timely, as I have been dealing with this and other =
issues lately. I've had shoulder pain for over a year now, finally got =
an MRI and it turns out I have a torn labrum, tendentious, arthritis, =
etc. but in the course of all that I had a nerve test (EMG), where they =
send shocks through individual nerves to see which nerves are pinched or =
impeded.=20

It turns out, the ulnar nerves (where tennis elbow comes from) in both =
elbows are pinched. I've had a sore left elbow for years, from guitar =
playing, etc and this explains it. I've been having physical therapy for =
both shoulder and elbow, and it has helped. they also gave me stretches =
for it, bending the fingers all the way back and holding for 30 seconds, =
then all the way forward and hold for same, then flossing the nerve, =
where you bend fingers back, then forward repeatedly free up the nerve. =
Having them massage the median nerve (above the elbow, this branches off =
into the ulnar nerve at the elbow) is good also. It HURTS at first =
(usually the first sign there is a problem), then feels better with =
time.

Worth investigating, and good luck!

Paul
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Luis,

I had terrible problems 12 years ago and went through more than a year of e=
ffort to deal with it. In my case it was the right arm; more specifically, =
 picking hand all the way up to shoulder. I had started playing classical g=
uitar again too soon after shattering my right wrist - I thought I had heal=
ed completely, but I was wrong. My hand started to hurt and I had elbow pai=
n too. I had a classic case of "dreadnought disease" - look it up, read for=
 example about what happened to Kottke.

I had hand therapy for about 4 months, once a week. It took a while to show=
 results, but I got better. The therapy consisted of focused massage and jo=
int manipulation, electrical current, and ice. I did not play at all for th=
ese 4 months. When I was better and insurance was no longer going to pick u=
p the tab, I still didn't play for a month or so, and focused on yoga, shia=
tsu and ICE.

After I started to play again I  developed tendonitis, with  symptoms simil=
ar  to yours. More therapy coupled with ICE dealt with that.

I keep capitalizing ice because, for me at least, it was key to recovery. M=
y family doc says, "Ice always, heat never." I put an ice pack on my arm fo=
r the drive to work. I iced my arm for a half hour when I arrived back from=
 work. I went to sleep with an ice pack under the affected area. I develope=
d a high tolerance for the pain of freezing; maybe I'm just lucky I never g=
ot an ice burn.

Being mindful of where I put stress, taking breaks from practice, and icing=
 as needed has kept me in good shape for many years now. I also had a guita=
r made with a Manzer wedge and a Ryan bevel (they were not called that then=
), both ergonomic features that address some of the underlying causes for M=
Y problems.

Your left hand problem, assuming you are not a lefty, is different in some =
regards. Maybe all you can take away from my tale is the assurance that it =
can heal, that ice is your friend, and that good PT is valuable.

Hal Dean

From: Luis Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:10 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Tennis Elbow

Hi Folks,
since august i stated having pains im my left arm,specially around my elbow=
 and wrist.
I have problems gripping anything,specially the fretboard of the gutiar or =
even holding a glass full of water
this seems to be a common problem not only with tennis players or golfers b=
ut also with guitarrists,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.
im currently doing a therapy but i question its effectiveness
Has anybody suffered from this? what kind of solutions did you find or woul=
d recommend?
thanx!
Luis

http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I had terrible problems 1=
2 years ago and went through more than a year of effort to deal with it. In=
 my case it was the right arm; more specifically, &nbsp;picking
 hand all the way up to shoulder. I had started playing classical guitar ag=
ain too soon after shattering my right wrist &#8211; I thought I had healed=
 completely, but I was wrong. My hand started to hurt and I had elbow pain =
too. I had a classic case of &#8220;dreadnought
 disease&#8221; &#8211; look it up, read for example about what happened to=
 Kottke.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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out 4 months, once a week. It took a while to show results, but I got bette=
r. The therapy consisted of focused massage and joint manipulation,
 electrical current, and ice. I did not play at all for these 4 months. Whe=
n I was better and insurance was no longer going to pick up the tab, I stil=
l didn&#8217;t play for a month or so, and focused on yoga, shiatsu and ICE=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">After I started to play a=
gain I &nbsp;developed tendonitis, with &nbsp;symptoms similar &nbsp;to you=
rs. More therapy coupled with ICE dealt with that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I keep capitalizing ice b=
ecause, for me at least, it was key to recovery. My family doc says, &#8220=
;Ice always, heat never.&#8221; I put an ice pack on my arm for the
 drive to work. I iced my arm for a half hour when I arrived back from work=
. I went to sleep with an ice pack under the affected area. I developed a h=
igh tolerance for the pain of freezing; maybe I&#8217;m just lucky I never =
got an ice burn.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Being mindful of where I =
put stress, taking breaks from practice, and icing as needed has kept me in=
 good shape for many years now. I also had a guitar made
 with a Manzer wedge and a Ryan bevel (they were not called that then), bot=
h ergonomic features that address some of the underlying causes for MY prob=
lems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Your left hand problem, a=
ssuming you are not a lefty, is different in some regards. Maybe all you ca=
n take away from my tale is the assurance that it can heal,
 that ice is your friend, and that <b>good</b> PT is valuable.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Palatino Linotype&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hal Dean</span></=
i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Luis Ang=
ulo [mailto:louie.angulo@yahoo.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Tennis Elbow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k">Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">since august i stated ha=
ving pains im my left arm,specially around my elbow and wrist.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I have problems gripping=
 anything,specially the fretboard of the gutiar or even holding a glass ful=
l of water<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">this seems to be a commo=
n problem not only with tennis players or golfers but also with guitarrists=
,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">im currently doing a the=
rapy but i question its effectiveness<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Has anybody suffered fro=
m this? what kind of solutions did you find or would recommend?<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">thanx!<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Luis<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k"><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom">http://www.myspace.com/=
luisangulocom</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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> Main reason acupuncture is not understood is because the "theory" behind it
> is total fantasy.
> (and also it's claimed to cure almost anything...that's usually
>  a sure sign that a treatment cures nothing)

Wow, that's a pretty hard assessment.  How is it fantasy?

Just asking you know.

Kevin
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Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>> Main reason acupuncture is not understood is because the "theory" behind it
>> is total fantasy.
>> (and also it's claimed to cure almost anything...that's usually
>>  a sure sign that a treatment cures nothing)
> 
> Wow, that's a pretty hard assessment.  How is it fantasy?

:-)
good question,

as I understand it, it's based  on the existence meridian lines 
that are undetectable by any process, 
and a philosphy of ying and yang that makes some very 
far fetched assertions.

To say "total" fantasy is an overstatement of course, but
my point is that if acupuncture is genuinely useful
it's because it has a quantifiable physical effect on the
body, not because it is magic.



> 
> Just asking you know.

just answering

andy



> 
> Kevin

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I've not been reading this thread, so my comment is only based on this email.

anecdotally, I've used acupuncture (10 or so times in my life) to  
treat a variety of injury related pains, and, while 9 times out of ten  
I couldn't tell if it actually helped, the last time I used it for a  
really painful shoulder, as the needle went in, I felt a small spasm  
in that shoulder, and it released.

my overall take on receiving healing treatments, regardless of the  
science behind it, is that it's always a crapshoot.. they call a  
doctors business 'a practice' for a reason.. :)

peace
-cpr


Quoting andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>>> Main reason acupuncture is not understood is because the "theory" behind it
>>> is total fantasy.
>>> (and also it's claimed to cure almost anything...that's usually
>>> a sure sign that a treatment cures nothing)
>>
>> Wow, that's a pretty hard assessment.  How is it fantasy?
>
> :-)
> good question,
>
> as I understand it, it's based  on the existence meridian lines that  
> are undetectable by any process, and a philosphy of ying and yang  
> that makes some very far fetched assertions.
>
> To say "total" fantasy is an overstatement of course, but
> my point is that if acupuncture is genuinely useful
> it's because it has a quantifiable physical effect on the
> body, not because it is magic.
>
>
>
>>
>> Just asking you know.
>
> just answering
>
> andy
>
>
>
>>
>> Kevin
>
>


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"they call a doctors business 'a practice' for a reason"-- because the word
practice means a variety of things, including 'to pursue a profession?"



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM, <cpr@musetrap.com> wrote:

> I've not been reading this thread, so my comment is only based on this
> email.
>
> anecdotally, I've used acupuncture (10 or so times in my life) to treat a
> variety of injury related pains, and, while 9 times out of ten I couldn't
> tell if it actually helped, the last time I used it for a really painful
> shoulder, as the needle went in, I felt a small spasm in that shoulder, and
> it released.
>
> my overall take on receiving healing treatments, regardless of the science
> behind it, is that it's always a crapshoot.. they call a doctors business
> 'a practice' for a reason.. :)
>
> peace
> -cpr
>
>
>
> Quoting andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>:
>
>  Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>>
>>> Main reason acupuncture is not understood is because the "theory" behind
>>>> it
>>>> is total fantasy.
>>>> (and also it's claimed to cure almost anything...that's usually
>>>> a sure sign that a treatment cures nothing)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wow, that's a pretty hard assessment.  How is it fantasy?
>>>
>>
>> :-)
>> good question,
>>
>> as I understand it, it's based  on the existence meridian lines that are
>> undetectable by any process, and a philosphy of ying and yang that makes
>> some very far fetched assertions.
>>
>> To say "total" fantasy is an overstatement of course, but
>> my point is that if acupuncture is genuinely useful
>> it's because it has a quantifiable physical effect on the
>> body, not because it is magic.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Just asking you know.
>>>
>>
>> just answering
>>
>> andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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&quot;they call a doctors business &#39;a practice&#39; for a reason&quot;-=
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rsue a profession?&quot;<div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
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On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
cpr@musetrap.com" target=3D"_blank">cpr@musetrap.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I&#39;ve not been reading this thread, so my comment is only based on this =
email.<br>
<br>
anecdotally, I&#39;ve used acupuncture (10 or so times in my life) to treat=
 a variety of injury related pains, and, while 9 times out of ten I couldn&=
#39;t tell if it actually helped, the last time I used it for a really pain=
ful shoulder, as the needle went in, I felt a small spasm in that shoulder,=
 and it released.<br>

<br>
my overall take on receiving healing treatments, regardless of the science =
behind it, is that it&#39;s always a crapshoot.. they call a doctors busine=
ss &#39;a practice&#39; for a reason.. :)<br>
<br>
peace<br>
-cpr<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
Quoting andy butler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D=
"_blank">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Main reason acupuncture is not understood is because the &quot;theory&quot;=
 behind it<br>
is total fantasy.<br>
(and also it&#39;s claimed to cure almost anything...that&#39;s usually<br>
a sure sign that a treatment cures nothing)<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Wow, that&#39;s a pretty hard assessment. =A0How is it fantasy?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
:-)<br>
good question,<br>
<br>
as I understand it, it&#39;s based =A0on the existence meridian lines that =
are undetectable by any process, and a philosphy of ying and yang that make=
s some very far fetched assertions.<br>
<br>
To say &quot;total&quot; fantasy is an overstatement of course, but<br>
my point is that if acupuncture is genuinely useful<br>
it&#39;s because it has a quantifiable physical effect on the<br>
body, not because it is magic.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Just asking you know.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
just answering<br>
<br>
andy<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Kevin<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
<a href=3D"http://toaster.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">http://toaster.ba=
ndcamp.com</a><br>
</div>

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>> Wow, that's a pretty hard assessment.  How is it fantasy?
>
>
> :-)
> good question,
>
> as I understand it, it's based  on the existence meridian lines that are
> undetectable by any process, and a philosphy of ying and yang that makes
> some very far fetched assertions.
>
> To say "total" fantasy is an overstatement of course, but
> my point is that if acupuncture is genuinely useful
> it's because it has a quantifiable physical effect on the
> body, not because it is magic.

I'm sure there are studies (such as
http://apps.who.int/medicinedocs/pdf/s4926e/s4926e.pdf) that show
benefit to accupuncture.  That one is from the World Health
Organization so I'd be inclined to put some faith in their findings.

I'm sure there are plenty of practices and beliefs in western medicine
that make some very far fetched assertions as well.  Generally I've
found the philosophy of yin/yang to be pretty useful as far as any
philosophy goes.  But as they say ymmv.

As far as placebo and biofeedback questions go, I personally don't
care myself.  If it works then you're happy.  If you could learn to do
it without the props of 'medicine' (of any sort) then all the better.
But until we figure out how to direct our bodies to heal themselves,
anything that works is good.  I also find the idea of the meridians
quite sensible too, even if there isn't any way to objectively
demonstrate it.  The body lives while the 'life force' is in it.  When
it stops or is gone, so is the body.  As far as I know, there is no
objective way to demonstrate the energy source that makes the heart
beat either.

But common sense is always good, magical thinking is probably not
going to cure your cancer you know.

Kevin

-- 
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

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On 12/10/12 2:28 AM, Philip Conway wrote:
>
>
> They're surely the most unlikely of stadium rockers but that's what 
> they are on this side of the Atlantic. 

My understanding is that they were not that popular outside of England 
until Coldplay took them
on a year long world tour.    Is this true from your perspective, Philip.

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Rick Walker wrote:
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> On 12/9/2012 10:51 AM, van Sinn wrote:
> 
> Locate a good Chinese acupunture specialist with many years of 
> experience.
> Traditional western doctors who's taken a course generally do not 
> understand those techniques due to mindset limitations from the 
> traditional education.
>>
>> In general,  I agree with you, van Sinn but in the area I live in 
>> (roughly the SF Bay Area) there are an increasing number of very hip 
>> young doctors who either have degrees in Western Medicine AND 
>> Acupuncture or who , like my personal Western physician,  are very 
>> open minded about alternate modalities of healing.

Ahh, didn't know you're in the Bay area ;)
Yep, I know alternate treatment awareness is very god there.
You'll likely also be able to locate some treatment akin to the Danish 
http://www.body-sds.dk system.
I've used this for some 20 years, and at a point back in time took class for a 
season; very effective. I actually gives treatment to people who knows.

>> My own physician,  Thomas McGuire, M.D., as an example,  will not 
>> prescribe anti-biotics to me if I have an infection and have not 
>> already  1) done my sinus washes faithfully and 2) taken all of my 
>> Chinese Herbs as my Acupuncturist, Elsa Etcheverry has taught me to 
>> do.     He probably won't go so far as to recommend a good 
>> chiropractor but we're working on him  <big grin>
>>
>> I realize that we live in an anomylous area.  This are is, truly,  a 
>> center of dozens of different holistic healing modalities and Western 
>> Medicine (with famous world class programs at Stanford and USF) but i 
>> think that this healing conciousness is growing all over the planet.
>>
>> I'm curious about everyone elses experience.
>>
>>
>> /R.

It's absolutely growing, and I hope you find the right treatment ;)

-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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Here in Sweden Elbow has been respected since their very first
release. I'm writing "respected" because such eclectic music never
gets "popular" in general, only with certain music lover circles.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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>>
>>
>> They're surely the most unlikely of stadium rockers but that's what they
>> are on this side of the Atlantic.
>
>
> My understanding is that they were not that popular outside of England until
> Coldplay took them
> on a year long world tour.    Is this true from your perspective, Philip.
>

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http://youtu.be/SQIdXKz4sE8

ooops the link would been nice
cheers again
ets


i'm in northern ontario in canada. i heard about them in an emailing from
bob lefsetz a few years ago. it was the grounds for divorce video from the
seldom seen kid album. found this one shortly after. the sign action is
miles ahead if the sandwich board of old.

cheers
ets

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>>
>>
>> They're surely the most unlikely of stadium rockers but that's what they 
>> are on this side of the Atlantic.
>
> My understanding is that they were not that popular outside of England 
> until Coldplay took them
> on a year long world tour.    Is this true from your perspective, Philip.
>
> 

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i'm in northern ontario in canada. i heard about them in an emailing from 
bob lefsetz a few years ago. it was the grounds for divorce video from the 
seldom seen kid album. found this one shortly after. the sign action is 
miles ahead if the sandwich board of old.

cheers
ets
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> On 12/10/12 2:28 AM, Philip Conway wrote:
>>
>>
>> They're surely the most unlikely of stadium rockers but that's what they 
>> are on this side of the Atlantic.
>
> My understanding is that they were not that popular outside of England 
> until Coldplay took them
> on a year long world tour.    Is this true from your perspective, Philip.
>
> 

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    I read this fascinating quote today and mused about what the history
    of electronic music algorithmic composition
    might have been had this remarkable woman not died so young (she
    passed from Uterine Cancer at the age of 36)

    "[The Analytical Engine] might act upon other things besides number,
    were objects found whose mutual fundamental relations could be
    expressed by those of the abstract science of operations, and which
    should be also susceptible of adaptations to the action of the
    operating notation and mechanism of the engine...

    Supposing, for instance, that the fundamental relations of pitched
    sounds in the science of harmony and of musical composition were
    susceptible of such expression and adaptations, the engine might
    compose elaborate and scientific pieces of music of any degree of
    complexity or extent.^"
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace#cite_note-58>

    ^Ada Lovelace - 1842

    ^credited as being the 1st computer programmer
    for her theoretical work on Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine
    which was never actually built in her lifetime.
    ^<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace#cite_note-58>

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Damn smart chick! Thanks for the inspiring link! Brings to mind that
Archimedes pennend a few nifty numerical engine mock-ups about two
thousand years ago.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>    I read this fascinating quote today and mused about what the history
>    of electronic music algorithmic composition
>    might have been had this remarkable woman not died so young (she
>    passed from Uterine Cancer at the age of 36)
>
>    "[The Analytical Engine] might act upon other things besides number,
>    were objects found whose mutual fundamental relations could be
>    expressed by those of the abstract science of operations, and which
>    should be also susceptible of adaptations to the action of the
>    operating notation and mechanism of the engine...
>
>    Supposing, for instance, that the fundamental relations of pitched
>    sounds in the science of harmony and of musical composition were
>    susceptible of such expression and adaptations, the engine might
>    compose elaborate and scientific pieces of music of any degree of
>    complexity or extent.^"
>    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace#cite_note-58>
>
>    ^Ada Lovelace - 1842
>
>    ^credited as being the 1st computer programmer
>    for her theoretical work on Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine
>    which was never actually built in her lifetime.
>    ^<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace#cite_note-58>
>

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2012/12/10 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>

>
>
> Art,   their first three albums are AMAZING!!!!!     Frankly,  I've not
> been as impressed with the last one but
> it still is better than 95% of the swill out there in pop these days.
>
> Listen to the album "Leaders of the Free World"...............just awesome!
>
>
Nice to hear that there are so many Elbow fans in this list. They have
become one of my favorite bands.  I can only second the recommendation of
"Leaders of the Free World".

And Sergio, congratulations! For you one of my favorite Elbow songs would
be fitting now: "Starlings" from "The Seldom Seen Kid", because its exactly
about that: "You are the only thing / In any room you're ever in"

Johannes

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<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/12/10 Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com" target=3D"_blank">looppool@cruzio.com</=
a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
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<div class=3D"h5">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">=A0</blockquote></div></div>Art, =A0 =
their first three albums are AMAZING!!!!! =A0 =A0 Frankly, =A0I&#39;ve not =
been as impressed with the last one but<br>
it still is better than 95% of the swill out there in pop these days.<br><b=
r>Listen to the album &quot;Leaders of the Free World&quot;...............j=
ust awesome!<br><br></blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Nice to hear that there are so many Elbow fans in this list. They have=
 become one of my favorite bands.=A0 I can only second the recommendation o=
f &quot;Leaders of the Free World&quot;.<br>=A0<br>And Sergio, congratulati=
ons! For you one of my favorite Elbow songs would be fitting now: &quot;Sta=
rlings&quot; from &quot;The Seldom Seen Kid&quot;, because its exactly abou=
t that: &quot;You are the only thing / In any room you&#39;re ever in&quot;=
 </div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Johannes</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-- <br></div></div>
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o.nashorn@googlemail.com</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn" target=3D"_blank">http=
://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn</a> </div><br>

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This is a film of a performance by Worlds Collide in 1993, the world 
music fusion ensemble
that we had just a few years before and a few years after we all started 
live looping in '95

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5W172yUNw_

This was 1993 and community and loopfestival performers,   Daniel 
Thomas, Gary Regina,
Bill Walker and myself all played.

This is a piece called 'Haiduk' that we wrote because of our love of 
Bulgarian and
Eastern European musics.   We are playing to a packed house of hundreds 
of fans so the adrenalin
was really high.............our very first gig with new bassist Victor 
Revere.

Check out Bill's solo beginning at 2:00.    He just burns!!!!!

I was so lucky to play with these amazing guys (with Victor Revere on 
bass, Don Lax on violin
and, forgive me, but I can't remember who on percussion that 
evening.......help me out guys.)

Rick Walker


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Great fun to see this! :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> This is a film of a performance by Worlds Collide in 1993, the world music
> fusion ensemble
> that we had just a few years before and a few years after we all started
> live looping in '95
>
> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5W172yUNw_
>
> This was 1993 and community and loopfestival performers,   Daniel Thomas,
> Gary Regina,
> Bill Walker and myself all played.
>
> This is a piece called 'Haiduk' that we wrote because of our love of
> Bulgarian and
> Eastern European musics.   We are playing to a packed house of hundreds of
> fans so the adrenalin
> was really high.............our very first gig with new bassist Victor
> Revere.
>
> Check out Bill's solo beginning at 2:00.    He just burns!!!!!
>
> I was so lucky to play with these amazing guys (with Victor Revere on bass,
> Don Lax on violin
> and, forgive me, but I can't remember who on percussion that
> evening.......help me out guys.)
>
> Rick Walker
>
>

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Hi gang,

Inspired by the recently posted 1993 video where the Walker bros, Gary
Regina and others play I found this old video containing some my work
from that time (1993). I'm not on display though since my role here
was music recording production:
http://youtu.be/qwEhTWWRGVM

In 1993 I had already been looping for ten years using first
generation digital delays and harmonizers cabled together in different
configurations. By the mid nineties I got signed by major labels with
an artist trio (doing "list oriented guitar techno") and that
commitment kept me away from looping for almost three years. In 1997 I
got out of that and started looping again, enjoying the new Lexicon
Jamman and by the millenium shift the classic EDP and Repeater. From
2005 Mobius has been my main tool for looping.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen

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This one where Bill is playing a miniature guitar  is also nice !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYh0IrmkAs

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2012/12/11 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> Great fun to see this! :-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> > This is a film of a performance by Worlds Collide in 1993, the world
> music
> > fusion ensemble
> > that we had just a few years before and a few years after we all started
> > live looping in '95
> >
> > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5W172yUNw_
> >
> > This was 1993 and community and loopfestival performers,   Daniel Thomas,
> > Gary Regina,
> > Bill Walker and myself all played.
> >
> > This is a piece called 'Haiduk' that we wrote because of our love of
> > Bulgarian and
> > Eastern European musics.   We are playing to a packed house of hundreds
> of
> > fans so the adrenalin
> > was really high.............our very first gig with new bassist Victor
> > Revere.
> >
> > Check out Bill's solo beginning at 2:00.    He just burns!!!!!
> >
> > I was so lucky to play with these amazing guys (with Victor Revere on
> bass,
> > Don Lax on violin
> > and, forgive me, but I can't remember who on percussion that
> > evening.......help me out guys.)
> >
> > Rick Walker
> >
> >
>
>

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<div>This one where=A0Bill is playing a miniature guitar=A0=A0is also nice =
!</div><div><br></div><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuWYh0Irmk=
As">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuWYh0IrmkAs</a><div><br></div><div>-f<=
br></div>
<div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/12/11 Per Boysen <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">per=
boysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Great fun to see this! :-)<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/perboysen" target=3D"_blank">http://www.y=
outube.com/perboysen</a><br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool=
@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; This is a film of a performance by Worlds Collide in 1993, the world m=
usic<br>
&gt; fusion ensemble<br>
&gt; that we had just a few years before and a few years after we all start=
ed<br>
&gt; live looping in &#39;95<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dum5W172yUNw_" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dum5W172yUNw_</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This was 1993 and community and loopfestival performers, =A0 Daniel Th=
omas,<br>
&gt; Gary Regina,<br>
&gt; Bill Walker and myself all played.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This is a piece called &#39;Haiduk&#39; that we wrote because of our l=
ove of<br>
&gt; Bulgarian and<br>
&gt; Eastern European musics. =A0 We are playing to a packed house of hundr=
eds of<br>
&gt; fans so the adrenalin<br>
&gt; was really high.............our very first gig with new bassist Victor=
<br>
&gt; Revere.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Check out Bill&#39;s solo beginning at 2:00. =A0 =A0He just burns!!!!!=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I was so lucky to play with these amazing guys (with Victor Revere on =
bass,<br>
&gt; Don Lax on violin<br>
&gt; and, forgive me, but I can&#39;t remember who on percussion that<br>
&gt; evening.......help me out guys.)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Rick Walker<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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Not Looping really but interesting. Here is norwegian improv guitarist
playing in Viglands Mausoleum. An amazing place with incredible reverb. I
have been here many many times and have recorded here myself. (For $100 you
can rent it in the evening for private use).

Sorry its in Norwegian: Maybe 2 of you can understand?

http://vimeo.com/55225161

Stian is an interesting musician, clearly in the noise scene here, which
crosses into the Jazz scene. (Mostly for funding reasons) He is a virtuoso
at playing the guitar with a viola bow.

The mausoleum was built by Emanuel Vigeland to house his own remains. It is
his brother Gustav who was the famous sculptor, who's pieces are strewn all
over Oslo, his younger brother, Emanuel was seriously jealous of his
brother success, and was a accomplished artist in his own right. If
anything his work was more edgy and dark than Gustav, the mausoleum was his
way to ensure his own fame after his death.
One enters the room through a small low door that you must bend down to
enter, its only once you are inside that you realise that you just crawled
right under the urn containing his remains.

The mausoleum is very hidden and under marketed, due to the uncompromising
images he painted on the walls that are verging on pornography. But
recently played host to a series of famous performers, including Diamanda
Galas and Mick Harvey

Hope this is of interest:

Mark



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Not Looping really but interesting. Here is norwegian improv guitarist play=
ing in Viglands Mausoleum. An amazing place with incredible reverb. I have =
been here many many times and have recorded here myself. (For $100 you can =
rent it in the evening for private use).<div>

<br></div><div>Sorry its in Norwegian: Maybe 2 of you can understand?</div>=
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/55225161">http://vimeo.com/=
55225161</a><br><div><br></div><div>Stian is an interesting musician, clear=
ly in the noise scene here, which crosses into the Jazz scene. (Mostly for =
funding reasons) He is a virtuoso at playing the guitar with a viola bow.=
=A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>The mausoleum was built by Emanuel Vigeland to house hi=
s own remains. It is his brother Gustav who was the famous sculptor,=A0who&=
#39;s=A0pieces are strewn all over Oslo, his younger brother, Emanuel was=
=A0seriously jealous of his brother success, and was a accomplished artist =
in his own right. If anything his work was more edgy and dark than Gustav, =
the mausoleum was his way to ensure his own fame after his death.<br>

One enters the room through a small low door that you must bend down to ent=
er, its only once you are inside that you realise that you just crawled rig=
ht under the urn containing his remains.</div><div><br></div><div>The mauso=
leum is very hidden and under marketed, due to the uncompromising images he=
 painted on the walls that are verging on pornography. But recently played =
host to a=A0series=A0of famous performers, including Diamanda Galas and Mic=
k Harvey=A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>Hope this is of interest:</div><div><br></div><div>Mark=
</div><div><br></div><div>=A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><i sty=
le=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,255,255);background-colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style=3D"font-family:&#39;trebuchet ms&#39;,sans-serif"=
 size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.markfra=
ncombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,0,51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao=
.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,=
51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=
=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)"=
><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@=
N00/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/</a><br><=
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Thanks, that was nice!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Not Looping really but interesting. Here is norwegian improv guitarist
> playing in Viglands Mausoleum. An amazing place with incredible reverb. I
> have been here many many times and have recorded here myself. (For $100 you
> can rent it in the evening for private use).
>
> Sorry its in Norwegian: Maybe 2 of you can understand?
>
> http://vimeo.com/55225161
>
> Stian is an interesting musician, clearly in the noise scene here, which
> crosses into the Jazz scene. (Mostly for funding reasons) He is a virtuoso
> at playing the guitar with a viola bow.
>
> The mausoleum was built by Emanuel Vigeland to house his own remains. It is
> his brother Gustav who was the famous sculptor, who's pieces are strewn all
> over Oslo, his younger brother, Emanuel was seriously jealous of his brother
> success, and was a accomplished artist in his own right. If anything his
> work was more edgy and dark than Gustav, the mausoleum was his way to ensure
> his own fame after his death.
> One enters the room through a small low door that you must bend down to
> enter, its only once you are inside that you realise that you just crawled
> right under the urn containing his remains.
>
> The mausoleum is very hidden and under marketed, due to the uncompromising
> images he painted on the walls that are verging on pornography. But recently
> played host to a series of famous performers, including Diamanda Galas and
> Mick Harvey
>
> Hope this is of interest:
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
>

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Hey gang,

I'm selling my Raines 7-string BeBop. I've had it for a little over two
years and love it, but don't play it all that much. It's in amazing
condition and the pick-ups sound great. The electronics could use a little
cleaning (neck volume is a bit scractchy sometimes around 10), but other
than that it sounds wonderful!

All the details are here:
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Hey gang, <br><br>I&#39;m selling my Raines 7-string BeBop. I&#39;ve had it=
 for a little over two years and love it, but don&#39;t play it all that mu=
ch. It&#39;s in amazing condition and the pick-ups sound great. The electro=
nics could use a little cleaning (neck volume is a bit scractchy sometimes =
around 10), but other than that it sounds wonderful!=A0 <br>
<br>All the details are here: <a href=3D"http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/m=
sg/3473556775.html">http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/3473556775.html</a=
><br><br><br>Best<br>Dan<br><br>

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note i'm just sharing. i have no rights whatsoever over this video nor the
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note i&#39;m just sharing. i have no rights whatsoever over this video nor =
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r_embedded&amp;v=3DU117vZDTa6U#</a>!</div>

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  Thanks, for Posting that Fabio, did you notice Daniel Thomas playing  
guitar both right handed and left handed...in the same song!!!!!!  
That  "honey I shrunk the guitar" is currently in the hands of a very  
young friend of mine and possibly in his daddy's hands as well!!!!!  
Who happens to be that left/right guitar playing dude in this clip.  
He's really talented!!

  Bill


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This one where Bill is playing a miniature guitar  is also nice !

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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>&nbsp;Thanks, for Posting that Fabio, did you notice Daniel Thomas playing guitar both right handed and left handed...in the same song!!!!!! That &nbsp;"honey I shrunk the guitar" is currently in the hands of a very young friend of mine and possibly in his daddy's hands as well!!!!! Who happens to be that left/right guitar playing dude in this clip. He's really talented!!</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>-f</div></div><div>This one where&nbsp;Bill is playing a miniature guitar&nbsp;&nbsp;is also nice !</div><div><br></div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYh0IrmkAs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYh0IrmkAs</a><div><br></div></body></html>
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  Thanks for posting this Rick,  he band sounds really good, this mix  
being a bit synth heavy. I can't believe how thematically close I  
played that solo to the recorded one. I Dig your fu manchu!
Bill






> This is a film of a performance by Worlds Collide in 1993, the world  
> music fusion ensemble
> that we had just a few years before and a few years after we all  
> started live looping in '95

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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">&nbsp;Thanks for posting this Rick, &nbsp;he band sounds really good, this mix being a bit synth heavy. I can't believe how thematically close I played that solo to the recorded one. I Dig your fu manchu!<div>Bill<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite">This is a film of a performance by Worlds Collide in 1993, the world music fusion ensemble<br>that we had just a few years before and a few years after we all started live looping in '95<br></blockquote><br>_<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5W172yUNw_">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5W172yUNw_</a><br></div></div></body></html>
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Pretty neat, like the setting of the performance...

Jim

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> note i'm just sharing. i have no rights whatsoever over this video nor th=
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*From Brooklyn To Glindran <http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com>*, a
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Pretty neat, like the setting of the performance...<div><br></div><div>Jim<=
br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:48 PM, eib hali=
mski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:halimzainal@gmail.com" target=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">note i&#39;m just sharing. i have no rights =
whatsoever over this video nor the recording<div><a href=3D"http://www.yout=
ube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&amp;v=3DU117vZDTa6U#" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&amp;v=3DU117vZD=
Ta6U#</a>!</div>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>-- </di=
v><div><a href=3D"http://jimgoodin.com" target=3D"_blank"><em>jimgoodin.com=
</em></a> - &#39;Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima=
lism&#39;</div>
<div>=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.com" target=
=3D"_blank"><em>The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music</em></a>=A0- &#39;Org=
anically inspired New Music&#39;</div><div>=A0</div><div><em><a href=3D"htt=
p://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">From Brooklyn To Gl=
indran</a></em>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter =
Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit <em><a href=3D"http://jdrf.o=
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rs/id474128076?mt=3D8" target=3D"_blank">Tips Across the Waters</a></em>, a=
 new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.</div><br>
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Cool! I enjoyed it.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> Pretty neat, like the setting of the performance...
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:48 PM, eib halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>
>> note i'm just sharing. i have no rights whatsoever over this video nor t=
he
>> recording
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&v=3DU117vZDTa6U#!
>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive
> minimalism'
>
> The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New Music'
>
> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&
> Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International
>
> Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire
> Ware.
>



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Thanks for the link (although I didn't understand a word)!
His new album is worth hearing, too: http://youtu.be/59CQaV1njzE

2012/12/12 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> Thanks, that was nice!
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > Not Looping really but interesting. Here is norwegian improv guitarist
> > playing in Viglands Mausoleum. An amazing place with incredible reverb. I
> > have been here many many times and have recorded here myself. (For $100
> you
> > can rent it in the evening for private use).
> >
> > Sorry its in Norwegian: Maybe 2 of you can understand?
> >
> > http://vimeo.com/55225161
> >
> > Stian is an interesting musician, clearly in the noise scene here, which
> > crosses into the Jazz scene. (Mostly for funding reasons) He is a
> virtuoso
> > at playing the guitar with a viola bow.
> >
> > The mausoleum was built by Emanuel Vigeland to house his own remains. It
> is
> > his brother Gustav who was the famous sculptor, who's pieces are strewn
> all
> > over Oslo, his younger brother, Emanuel was seriously jealous of his
> brother
> > success, and was a accomplished artist in his own right. If anything his
> > work was more edgy and dark than Gustav, the mausoleum was his way to
> ensure
> > his own fame after his death.
> > One enters the room through a small low door that you must bend down to
> > enter, its only once you are inside that you realise that you just
> crawled
> > right under the urn containing his remains.
> >
> > The mausoleum is very hidden and under marketed, due to the
> uncompromising
> > images he painted on the walls that are verging on pornography. But
> recently
> > played host to a series of famous performers, including Diamanda Galas
> and
> > Mick Harvey
> >
> > Hope this is of interest:
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mark Francombe
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://www.looop.no
> > twitter @markfrancombe
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
> >
>
>


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<div>Thanks for the link (although I didn&#39;t understand a word)! </div>
<div>His new album is worth hearing, too: <a href=3D"http://youtu.be/59CQaV=
1njzE">http://youtu.be/59CQaV1njzE</a><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/12/12 Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Thanks, that was nice!<br><br>Greetin=
gs from Sweden<br><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>Per Bo=
ysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</=
a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/perboysen" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.youtube.com/perboysen</a><br></font></span>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb">
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM, mark francombe &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br>&gt; Not Looping really but interesting. Here is norwegian impro=
v guitarist<br>
&gt; playing in Viglands Mausoleum. An amazing place with incredible reverb=
. I<br>&gt; have been here many many times and have recorded here myself. (=
For $100 you<br>&gt; can rent it in the evening for private use).<br>&gt;<b=
r>
&gt; Sorry its in Norwegian: Maybe 2 of you can understand?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;=
 <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/55225161" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/5=
5225161</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; Stian is an interesting musician, clearly in th=
e noise scene here, which<br>
&gt; crosses into the Jazz scene. (Mostly for funding reasons) He is a virt=
uoso<br>&gt; at playing the guitar with a viola bow.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The ma=
usoleum was built by Emanuel Vigeland to house his own remains. It is<br>
&gt; his brother Gustav who was the famous sculptor, who&#39;s pieces are s=
trewn all<br>&gt; over Oslo, his younger brother, Emanuel was seriously jea=
lous of his brother<br>&gt; success, and was a accomplished artist in his o=
wn right. If anything his<br>
&gt; work was more edgy and dark than Gustav, the mausoleum was his way to =
ensure<br>&gt; his own fame after his death.<br>&gt; One enters the room th=
rough a small low door that you must bend down to<br>&gt; enter, its only o=
nce you are inside that you realise that you just crawled<br>
&gt; right under the urn containing his remains.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The mausol=
eum is very hidden and under marketed, due to the uncompromising<br>&gt; im=
ages he painted on the walls that are verging on pornography. But recently<=
br>
&gt; played host to a series of famous performers, including Diamanda Galas=
 and<br>&gt; Mick Harvey<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hope this is of interest:<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Mark<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Mark Francombe<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfr=
ancombe.com</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" target=3D"_b=
lank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094=
" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no=
</a><br>&gt; twitter @markfrancombe<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.flickr.co=
m/photos/24478662@N00/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/2447=
8662@N00/</a><br>
&gt;<br><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br=
>
<p><a href=3D"mailto:--jenko.nashorn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenko.nas=
horn@gmail.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn</a> </p><br>

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I'm hugely proud!

Yesterday, on 12-12-12, I released the first album in the #secretalbum 
project: "Verschluckbare Kleinteile".
It's here: http://secretalbum.bandcamp.com

There's some download codes for free downloads at the bottom of the page!

And if anyone wants to do a review or otherwise make it known to the 
world - I couldn't be happier!

Why is this off-topic?
Ever since that project started (which was about in April 2011), I 
haven't done much loop stuff. That has to do with some observations on 
my art from this millenium so far:
  * everything was radically and freely improvised,
  * everything contained some looping stuff,
  * most of it was solo noodling,
  * the average track length was 6:41.

So I decided to do something different:
  * composed material exclusively,
  * maximum track length of 90 seconds,
  * loads of collaborators.

What had started as the idea for a single album has now become a program 
with multiple releases - mainly for program management reasons in such a 
complex world.

Now even as there's no looping, there's enough loop people present: of 
the 22 people involved in that release in total, there's among others 
Alun Vaughan, Kevin Kissinger, Christine Caulfield, Jeff Duke and Daryl 
Shawn.

Ok, enough talk:
Release notification blog post: 
http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/release-note-secretalbum-verschluckbare-kleinteile/
#secretalbum secretblog: http://moinlabs.de/blog/
bandcamp: http://secretalbum.bandcamp.com

And now, as promised, some download codes for this crowd:
n97q-ey89
mywf-337z
gkjv-w4q6
yn9r-hpgy


Yours,

             Rainer

-- 
http://moinlabs.de
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
It's Analog Overdose month!  Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic
Travels, I'll continue the the month-long Special Focus on Keller and
Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog Overdose 4"
on Manikin Records.  The Special Focus page is at:
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

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Hi Bill:

Please remove me from future emails
Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter

Good thoughts always        Mike



At 12:59 PM 12/13/2012, you wrote:
>GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info
>=======================================================================
>It's Analog Overdose month!  Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic
>Travels, I'll continue the the month-long Special Focus on Keller and
>Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog Overdose 4"
>on Manikin Records.  The Special Focus page is at:
>http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec
>
>Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
>airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
>Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
>and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
>FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121213.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

Show #819 December 13, 2012.
WDIY Playlist:
http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=12-13-2012

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Fanger & Schonwalder.
TheFeatured CD at Midnight was "Analog Overdose 4" on Manikin Records.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Andy Pickford        Casablanco           Jern (none)
Andy Pickford        Opal                 Jern (none)
Vic Hennegan         Orbital Dreams       Nebula Waves (Alien Tribes)
Dave Luxton          One Instant in Time  Collected Ambient Works
                                             (Wayfarer)
Premonition Factory  No Way Out           The Theory of Nothing (none)
Sonogram             Heartbeat Submarines Apparent Microdots (Simulacra)


12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Fanger & Schonwalder Berlin Breakfast     Analog Overdose 4 (Manikin)
Fanger & Schonwalder Berlin Lunch         Analog Overdose 4 (Manikin)
Fanger & Schonwalder Berlin Dessert       Analog Overdose 4 (Manikin)


1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Fanger & Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog
Overdose 4+" on Manikin Records.
WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-12-20

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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Hello,

=A0This message may be coming to you as a surprise but I need your help. Fe=
w days back we made an unannounced vacation trip to Manila, Philippines. Ev=
erything was going fine until last night when we got mugged on our way back=
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 we still have our passports with us.

I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues=
 at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks but we can't wait till then and o=
ur flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling t=
he hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the=
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g to you as a surprise but I need your help. Few days back we made an unann=
ounced vacation trip to Manila, Philippines. Everything was going fine unti=
l last night when we got mugged on our way back to the hotel, all cash and =
credit card were stolen off from us but luckily we still have our passports=
 with us.<br><br>I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're n=
ot helping issues at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks but we can't wai=
t till then and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having pr=
oblems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave un=
til we settle the hotel bills, Dealing with foreign authorities here is ext=
remely frustrating, It would take us about 24 hours to get everything strai=
ghten out before we could leave, we are freaked out at the moment...I reall=
y
 need your financial assistance.<br><br>Please let me know if you could hel=
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Um, this looks like a scam to me.  Look at the email address carefully - =
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> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> From: tim echols <eekamouse67@yahoo.com>
> Date: December 14, 2012 12:41:30 PM PST
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> Subject: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols
> Reply-To: eekam0use67@yahoo.com
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
>  This message may be coming to you as a surprise but I need your help. =
Few days back we made an unannounced vacation trip to Manila, =
Philippines. Everything was going fine until last night when we got =
mugged on our way back to the hotel, all cash and credit card were =
stolen off from us but luckily we still have our passports with us.
>=20
> I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping =
issues at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks but we can't wait till =
then and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having =
problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us =
leave until we settle the hotel bills, Dealing with foreign authorities =
here is extremely frustrating, It would take us about 24 hours to get =
everything straighten out before we could leave, we are freaked out at =
the moment...I really need your financial assistance.
>=20
> Please let me know if you could help us out financially?
>=20
>   Tim.


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Um, =
this looks like a scam to me. &nbsp;Look at the email address carefully =
- the reply address has a zero instead of a "o" in the word mouse. =
&nbsp;Do NOT send any money to this scam. &nbsp;(But, you can always =
shoot me a few bucks if you really want to get rid of some of your extra =
cash.)<div><br></div><div>3x09<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded =
message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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1);"><b>Resent-From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
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margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
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1);"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">tim echols &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:eekamouse67@yahoo.com">eekamouse67@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br></s=
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PST<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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1);"><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
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style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
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Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols</b><br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
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style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a =
href=3D"mailto:eekam0use67@yahoo.com">eekam0use67@yahoo.com</a><br></span>=
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border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: =
inherit;">Hello,<br><br>&nbsp;This message may be coming to you as a =
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vacation trip to Manila, Philippines. Everything was going fine until =
last night when we got mugged on our way back to the hotel, all cash and =
credit card were stolen off from us but luckily we still have our =
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but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager =
won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills, Dealing with foreign =
authorities here is extremely frustrating, It would take us about 24 =
hours to get everything straighten out before we could leave, we are =
freaked out at the moment...I really
 need your financial assistance.<br><br>Please let me know if you could =
help us out financially?<br><br>&nbsp; =
Tim.</td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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Ya think...?   :-|

>Um, this looks like a scam to me.  Look at the email address 
>carefully - the reply address has a zero instead of a "o" in the 
>word mouse.  Do NOT send any money to this scam.  (But, you can 
>always shoot me a few bucks if you really want to get rid of some of 
>your extra cash.)
>
>3x09
>
>
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>
>>Resent-From: 
>><mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>>From: tim echols <<mailto:eekamouse67@yahoo.com>eekamouse67@yahoo.com>
>>
>>Date: December 14, 2012 12:41:30 PM PST
>>
>>To: undisclosed recipients: ;
>>
>>Subject: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols
>>
>>Reply-To: <mailto:eekam0use67@yahoo.com>eekam0use67@yahoo.com
>>
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>  This message may be coming to you as a surprise but I need your 
>>help. Few days back we made an unannounced vacation trip to Manila, 
>>Philippines. Everything was going fine until last night when we got 
>>mugged on our way back to the hotel, all cash and credit card were 
>>stolen off from us but luckily we still have our passports with us.
>>
>>I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not 
>>helping issues at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks but we 
>>can't wait till then and our flight leaves in few hours from now 
>>but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel 
>>manager won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills, Dealing 
>>with foreign authorities here is extremely frustrating, It would 
>>take us about 24 hours to get everything straighten out before we 
>>could leave, we are freaked out at the moment...I really need your 
>>financial assistance.
>>
>>Please let me know if you could help us out financially?
>>
>>   Tim.


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<div>Ya think...?&nbsp;&nbsp; :-|</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Um, this looks like a scam to me.
&nbsp;Look at the email address carefully - the reply address has a
zero instead of a &quot;o&quot; in the word mouse. &nbsp;Do NOT send
any money to this scam. &nbsp;(But, you can always shoot me a few
bucks if you really want to get rid of some of your extra
cash.)</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>3x09<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Begin forwarded message:</blockquote>
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>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><b>From:</b> tim echols &lt;<a
href="mailto:eekamouse67@yahoo.com">eekamouse67@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><b>Date:</b> December 14, 2012 12:41:30
PM PST<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><b>To:</b> undisclosed recipients: ;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><b>Subject: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines
Trip)...Tim Echols</b><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Hello,<br>
<br>
&nbsp;This message may be coming to you as a surprise but I need your
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hours to get everything straighten out before we could leave, we are
freaked out at the moment...I really need your financial
assistance.<br>
<br>
Please let me know if you could help us out financially?<br>
<br>
&nbsp; Tim.</blockquote>
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Definetely a scam. My mail account was used the same.=20
I also avcept cash an credit card for scam counceling and relief from being l=
oaded:-)

Antony Hequet
Poet composer

On 15 d=C3=A9c. 2012, at 04:31, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote:

> Um, this looks like a scam to me.  Look at the email address carefully - t=
he reply address has a zero instead of a "o" in the word mouse.  Do NOT send=
 any money to this scam.  (But, you can always shoot me a few bucks if you r=
eally want to get rid of some of your extra cash.)
>=20
> 3x09
>=20
> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
>> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> From: tim echols <eekamouse67@yahoo.com>
>> Date: December 14, 2012 12:41:30 PM PST
>> To: undisclosed recipients: ;
>> Subject: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols
>> Reply-To: eekam0use67@yahoo.com
>>=20
>> Hello,
>>=20
>>  This message may be coming to you as a surprise but I need your help. Fe=
w days back we made an unannounced vacation trip to Manila, Philippines. Eve=
rything was going fine until last night when we got mugged on our way back t=
o the hotel, all cash and credit card were stolen off from us but luckily we=
 still have our passports with us.
>>=20
>> I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issu=
es at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks but we can't wait till then and o=
ur flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling th=
e hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the h=
otel bills, Dealing with foreign authorities here is extremely frustrating, I=
t would take us about 24 hours to get everything straighten out before we co=
uld leave, we are freaked out at the moment...I really need your financial a=
ssistance.
>>=20
>> Please let me know if you could help us out financially?
>>=20
>>   Tim.
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Definetely a scam. My mail account was u=
sed the same.&nbsp;</div><div>I also avcept cash an credit card for scam cou=
nceling and relief from being loaded:-)<br><br>Antony Hequet<div>Poet compos=
er</div></div><div><br>On 15 d=C3=A9c. 2012, at 04:31, TripleOhNine &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:3x09@carlsonarts.com">3x09@carlsonarts.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Um, this looks like a sca=
m to me. &nbsp;Look at the email address carefully - the reply address has a=
 zero instead of a "o" in the word mouse. &nbsp;Do NOT send any money to thi=
s scam. &nbsp;(But, you can always shoot me a few bucks if you really want t=
o get rid of some of your extra cash.)<div><br></div><div>3x09<br><div><br><=
div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><b=
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rgin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';=
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ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"><a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-d=
elight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a></a><br></span></div><div=
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t: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgb=
a(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; f=
ont-size:medium;">tim echols &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eekamouse67@yahoo.com"><a=
 href=3D"mailto:eekamouse67@yahoo.com">eekamouse67@yahoo.com</a></a>&gt;<br>=
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px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:med=
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ft: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rg=
ba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetic=
a'; font-size:medium;"><b>Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols</=
b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-=
bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font=
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ahoo.com"><a href=3D"mailto:eekam0use67@yahoo.com">eekam0use67@yahoo.com</a>=
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ything was going fine until last night when we got mugged on our way back to=
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n't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills, Dealing with foreign autho=
rities here is extremely frustrating, It would take us about 24 hours to get=
 everything straighten out before we could leave, we are freaked out at the m=
oment...I really
 need your financial assistance.<br><br>Please let me know if you could help=
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My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show,
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=20
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Hello,

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Philippines. Everything was going fine until last night when we got =
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vacation trip to Manila, Philippines. Everything was going fine until =
last night when we got mugged on our way back to the hotel, all cash and =
credit card were stolen off from us but luckily we still have our =
passports with us.<br><br>I've been to the Embassy and the Police here =
but they're not helping issues at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks =
but we can't wait till then and our flight leaves in few hours from now =
but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager =
won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills, Dealing with foreign =
authorities here is extremely frustrating, It would take us about 24 =
hours to get everything straighten out before we could leave, we are =
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On 12/12/2012 5:33 PM, William Walker wrote:
>  Thanks for posting this Rick,  he band sounds really good, this mix 
> being a bit synth heavy. I can't believe how thematically close I 
> played that solo to the recorded one. I Dig your fu manchu!
> Bill
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*LOL, Bill,  that particular odious form of beard I was wearing at the 
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I also agree with you that your solo was almost note perfect. What a 
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      good, this mix being a bit synth heavy. I can't believe how
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      I also agree with you that your solo was almost note perfect.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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On 12/14/2012 9:57 AM, Luis Angulo wrote:
> hers a brief interesting article about the subject
>
> http://guitarinternational.com/2010/08/21/fear-and-loathing-in-your-fingertips/
>

Here's the salient part about preparing yourself against RSI injuries
_*
EXCERCISES:*_

Improper technique or trying to stretch the hand and fingers beyond 
normal capacity can irritate joints, ligaments, muscles, and nerves. 
This last category – nerves – causes the most pain and anxiety in 
guitarists, simply because nerve damage is hard to treat. It affects a 
number of musicians, as well. Keith Emerson, for example, has undergone 
therapy and major surgery for damage to his hands, and his ability to 
perform and to record is, as of this writing, in serious doubt. 
BassistJohnette Napolitano 
<http://guitarinternational.com/2010/06/14/johnette-napolitano-big-sky-rock-n-roll-and-rattle-snakes/>, 
formerly of Concrete Blonde, also suffered major nerve damage to her 
arm, such that a guest bassist (Cheap Trick’s Tom Petersson) was brought 
in for that band’s last studio record. Exercises can help prevent a 
problem before it gets to such an extreme stage.

Extend your right arm straight out, palm forward, with fingers pointing 
up as if you were pushing against a wall. Then grab your fingers with 
your left hand, and pull back, gently. Do it just enough so that you can 
feel the pull on your muscles, but don’t hurt yourself. Then turn your 
arm and hand upside down. With your forearm up and your palm still 
facing out, your fingers should now be pointing downward.

You MUST do this for 20 to 30 seconds each time, at least once a day. 
Not 10 or 15, but at least 20 seconds, and do it six times with each 
hand – three up and three down.

For forearms, wrist extensor exercises are important. Extend your arm 
straight in front of you, with the elbow locked. Point your fingers 
down, palm in, and bend your fingers in toward you. You should feel an 
obvious tug on your forearm. Do this in the opposite direction, pointing 
your fingers up, and try stretching them back towards you. Do not use 
your other hand to help (as in the exercise above). Just let your 
fingers stretch the forearm muscles on their own.

There are also finger exercises that you should do, often referred to as 
a “hand ballet.” Start with your fingers straight up, palm out. Then 
fold your fingers forward and down to a 90-degree angle, so that they 
are flush against your palm, and then curl them into a fist. Pull the 
knuckles up, keeping the fingertips flat against the lower part of the 
fingers – so that they are almost hook-like. Then flip them back to the 
pointing-upward position, and repeat the entire exercise from the beginning.

Don’t forget your shoulders and back. While your fingers and hands are 
the front line of your playing, there are other parts of your body to 
consider. Electric guitarists who play while standing up frequently 
share one major complaint: their shoulders ache. This comes from 
standing hours at a time with a guitar slung somewhere between the chest 
and the knees, supported only by a thin strip of leather or cloth. The 
culprit here is often-times your strap. Your shoulder (the left one, for 
right-handed guitar players) is supporting the entire weight of the 
guitar, which also puts stress on surrounding areas, especially the neck.

One bit of advice from physicians is to use a wide, heavily padded 
strap. If that isn’t your style and you prefer the Jimmy Page skinny 
strap model, try dispersing the direct weight of the strap by placing a 
small folded towel under the strap (even under your shirt if you don’t 
want to mess up an all-important fashion statement). Anything to keep 
the strap from eating into one or several square inches of your shoulder 
will be better than nothing. By the way, Page claims that his strap, and 
the weight of Les Pauls and doublenecks, has permanently sloped his left 
shoulder so that it is significantly lower than the right shoulder.

For you sitters, the constant hunching over the guitar isn’t any better, 
either. Like your mom told you, “Sit up straight and don’t slouch.” True 
enough: hunching forward can cause you some lower back pain and shoulder 
stress. Take care of sitting up straight first, then do some basic 
relaxation exercises. Neck rolls are a good start: roll your head from 
side to side, slowly, touching your ears to your respective shoulders.

Regular exercise can keep problems from developing and turning into 
disasters. Do yourself a favor: treat your fingers as well as you treat 
all the appendages on your body.



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I've seen similar messages in the past attributed to folks who had actually=
 been hacked.

Subject: Fwd: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols
From: 3x09@carlsonarts.com
Date: Fri=2C 14 Dec 2012 19:31:22 -0800
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Um=2C this looks like a scam to me.  Look at the email address carefully - =
the reply address has a zero instead of a "o" in the word mouse.  Do NOT se=
nd any money to this scam.  (But=2C you can always shoot me a few bucks if =
you really want to get rid of some of your extra cash.)
3x09

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From: tim echols <eekamouse67@yahoo.com>
Date: December 14=2C 2012 12:41:30 PM PST
To: undisclosed recipients: =3B
Subject: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols
Reply-To: eekam0use67@yahoo.com

Hello=2C

 This message may be coming to you as a surprise but I need your help. Few =
days back we made an unannounced vacation trip to Manila=2C Philippines. Ev=
erything was going fine until last night when we got mugged on our way back=
 to the hotel=2C all cash and credit card were stolen off from us but lucki=
ly we still have our passports with us.

I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues=
 at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks but we can't wait till then and o=
ur flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling t=
he hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the=
 hotel bills=2C Dealing with foreign authorities here is extremely frustrat=
ing=2C It would take us about 24 hours to get everything straighten out bef=
ore we could leave=2C we are freaked out at the moment...I really
 need your financial assistance.

Please let me know if you could help us out financially?

  Tim.
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r>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><br>Um=2C this looks like a sc=
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as a zero instead of a "o" in the word mouse. &nbsp=3BDo NOT send any money=
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eally want to get rid of some of your extra cash.)<div><br></div><div>3x09<=
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eeks but we can't wait till then and our flight leaves in few hours from no=
w but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager =
won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills=2C Dealing with foreign =
authorities here is extremely frustrating=2C It would take us about 24 hour=
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Rick,

Thanks for sharing this =97 with as many "auld farts" around here, we
certainly need to be aware of what we can do.

http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/


On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On 12/14/2012 9:57 AM, Luis Angulo wrote:
>>
>> hers a brief interesting article about the subject
>>
>>
>> http://guitarinternational.com/2010/08/21/fear-and-loathing-in-your-fing=
ertips/
>>
>
> Here's the salient part about preparing yourself against RSI injuries
> _*
> EXCERCISES:*_
>
> Improper technique or trying to stretch the hand and fingers beyond norma=
l
> capacity can irritate joints, ligaments, muscles, and nerves. This last
> category =96 nerves =96 causes the most pain and anxiety in guitarists, s=
imply
> because nerve damage is hard to treat. It affects a number of musicians, =
as
> well. Keith Emerson, for example, has undergone therapy and major surgery
> for damage to his hands, and his ability to perform and to record is, as =
of
> this writing, in serious doubt. BassistJohnette Napolitano
> <http://guitarinternational.com/2010/06/14/johnette-napolitano-big-sky-ro=
ck-n-roll-and-rattle-snakes/>,
> formerly of Concrete Blonde, also suffered major nerve damage to her arm,
> such that a guest bassist (Cheap Trick=92s Tom Petersson) was brought in =
for
> that band=92s last studio record. Exercises can help prevent a problem be=
fore
> it gets to such an extreme stage.
>
> Extend your right arm straight out, palm forward, with fingers pointing u=
p
> as if you were pushing against a wall. Then grab your fingers with your l=
eft
> hand, and pull back, gently. Do it just enough so that you can feel the p=
ull
> on your muscles, but don=92t hurt yourself. Then turn your arm and hand u=
pside
> down. With your forearm up and your palm still facing out, your fingers
> should now be pointing downward.
>
> You MUST do this for 20 to 30 seconds each time, at least once a day. Not=
 10
> or 15, but at least 20 seconds, and do it six times with each hand =96 th=
ree
> up and three down.
>
> For forearms, wrist extensor exercises are important. Extend your arm
> straight in front of you, with the elbow locked. Point your fingers down,
> palm in, and bend your fingers in toward you. You should feel an obvious =
tug
> on your forearm. Do this in the opposite direction, pointing your fingers
> up, and try stretching them back towards you. Do not use your other hand =
to
> help (as in the exercise above). Just let your fingers stretch the forear=
m
> muscles on their own.
>
> There are also finger exercises that you should do, often referred to as =
a
> =93hand ballet.=94 Start with your fingers straight up, palm out. Then fo=
ld your
> fingers forward and down to a 90-degree angle, so that they are flush
> against your palm, and then curl them into a fist. Pull the knuckles up,
> keeping the fingertips flat against the lower part of the fingers =96 so =
that
> they are almost hook-like. Then flip them back to the pointing-upward
> position, and repeat the entire exercise from the beginning.
>
> Don=92t forget your shoulders and back. While your fingers and hands are =
the
> front line of your playing, there are other parts of your body to conside=
r.
> Electric guitarists who play while standing up frequently share one major
> complaint: their shoulders ache. This comes from standing hours at a time
> with a guitar slung somewhere between the chest and the knees, supported
> only by a thin strip of leather or cloth. The culprit here is often-times
> your strap. Your shoulder (the left one, for right-handed guitar players)=
 is
> supporting the entire weight of the guitar, which also puts stress on
> surrounding areas, especially the neck.
>
> One bit of advice from physicians is to use a wide, heavily padded strap.=
 If
> that isn=92t your style and you prefer the Jimmy Page skinny strap model,=
 try
> dispersing the direct weight of the strap by placing a small folded towel
> under the strap (even under your shirt if you don=92t want to mess up an
> all-important fashion statement). Anything to keep the strap from eating
> into one or several square inches of your shoulder will be better than
> nothing. By the way, Page claims that his strap, and the weight of Les Pa=
uls
> and doublenecks, has permanently sloped his left shoulder so that it is
> significantly lower than the right shoulder.
>
> For you sitters, the constant hunching over the guitar isn=92t any better=
,
> either. Like your mom told you, =93Sit up straight and don=92t slouch.=94=
 True
> enough: hunching forward can cause you some lower back pain and shoulder
> stress. Take care of sitting up straight first, then do some basic
> relaxation exercises. Neck rolls are a good start: roll your head from si=
de
> to side, slowly, touching your ears to your respective shoulders.
>
> Regular exercise can keep problems from developing and turning into
> disasters. Do yourself a favor: treat your fingers as well as you treat a=
ll
> the appendages on your body.
>
>
>

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Great to see this - thanks!

My thoughts were: "wow, the world (both musically & socially) has changed quite a bit since these days..."

best regards
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Rick Walker wrote:

> For you sitters, the constant hunching over the guitar isn’t any better, 
> either. 


the alternative

Shifting the guitar to the left, so that the recess sits on the left
thigh rather than the right (other way round for left handers of course)
and angling the neck upwards brings you more into the ergonomically better
"classical" position.
Then keeping the elbow close to your side and the thumb on the back of the neck
you'll instantly have improved stretch without effort.

Similar with standing, position the guitar/bass so that the headstock is at eye
level if you want an extra 2 frets of stretch ( or to get the same stretch without
tension).






andy








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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121215.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html

Show #239 December 15, 2012.

Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Steve Roach and      Whisper              Low Volume Music (Projekt)
   Dirk Serries
VA [Alpha Wave       Linear Perspectives  Sequences No.21
   Movement]
Vic Hennegan         Spacetime Voyager    Nebula Waves (Alien Tribes)
VA [Bruce Atchison]  Voids Between        Sequences No.21
                        Galaxies
Broekhuis, Keller    Mysteries of a Full  Level Four (Manikin)
   and Schonwalder      Moon Night


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Peter Kater          Heart Chakra         Light Body (Mysterium Music)
VA [Todd Boston]     The Brightest Night  The Gathering (West River)
VA [Rocky Fretz]     Kim's Song           The Gathering (West River)
Mychael Danna        Piscine Molitor      Life of Pi (Sony)
                        Patel
Thomas Newman        Quartermaster        Skyfall (Sony)


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Tile                 Window Dressing      Window Dressing (InsideOut)
Agamemnon            Agamemnon's Youth/   Agamemnon Part I & II (none)
                        Agamemnon, King
                        of Mylene
Alan Morse           Cold Fusion *        Four O'clock and Hysteria
                                             (InsideOut)


  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill Fox
========================================================================
Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5.
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
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i am tim echols.=A0 i am not in the phillipines.=A0 i have changed my yahoo=
 info.=A0 all is well except that yahoo has no customer support to speak of=
.
=A0
=A0
time

--- On Sat, 12/15/12, Antony Hequet <antony.hequet@yahoo.fr> wrote:


From: Antony Hequet <antony.hequet@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
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Date: Saturday, December 15, 2012, 2:45 AM




Definetely a scam. My mail account was used the same.=A0
I also avcept cash an credit card for scam counceling and relief from being=
 loaded:-)

Antony Hequet
Poet composer

On 15 d=E9c. 2012, at 04:31, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote:




Um, this looks like a scam to me. =A0Look at the email address carefully - =
the reply address has a zero instead of a "o" in the word mouse. =A0Do NOT =
send any money to this scam. =A0(But, you can always shoot me a few bucks i=
f you really want to get rid of some of your extra cash.)


3x09



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From: tim echols <eekamouse67@yahoo.com>

Date: December 14, 2012 12:41:30 PM PST

To: undisclosed recipients: ;

Subject: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols

Reply-To: eekam0use67@yahoo.com





Hello,

=A0This message may be coming to you as a surprise but I need your help. Fe=
w days back we made an unannounced vacation trip to Manila, Philippines. Ev=
erything was going fine until last night when we got mugged on our way back=
 to the hotel, all cash and credit card were stolen off from us but luckily=
 we still have our passports with us.

I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues=
 at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks but we can't wait till then and o=
ur flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling t=
he hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the=
 hotel bills, Dealing with foreign authorities here is extremely frustratin=
g, It would take us about 24 hours to get everything straighten out before =
we could leave, we are freaked out at the moment...I really need your finan=
cial assistance.

Please let me know if you could help us out financially?

=A0 Tim.

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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>i am tim echols.&nbsp; i am not in the p=
hillipines.&nbsp; i have changed my yahoo info.&nbsp; all is well except th=
at yahoo has no customer support to speak of.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>time<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 12/15/12, Antony Hequet <I>&lt;antony.heque=
t@yahoo.fr&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Antony Hequet &lt;antony.hequet@yahoo.fr&gt=
;<BR>Subject: Re: Awful Ordeal!!!..(Philippines Trip)...Tim Echols<BR>To: "=
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co=
m&gt;<BR>Date: Saturday, December 15, 2012, 2:45 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv849799892>
<DIV>
<DIV>Definetely a scam. My mail account was used the same.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I also avcept cash an credit card for scam counceling and relief from =
being loaded:-)<BR><BR>Antony Hequet
<DIV>Poet composer</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On 15 d=E9c. 2012, at 04:31, TripleOhNine &lt;<A href=3D"http://us=
.mc1210.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3D3x09@carlsonarts.com" rel=3Dnofollow=
 target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:3x09@carlsonarts.com">3x09@carlsonarts.c=
om</A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV>Um, this looks like a scam to me. &nbsp;Look at the email address care=
fully - the reply address has a zero instead of a "o" in the word mouse. &n=
bsp;Do NOT send any money to this scam. &nbsp;(But, you can always shoot me=
 a few bucks if you really want to get rid of some of your extra cash.)
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>3x09<BR>
<DIV><BR>
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NT-SIZE: medium">tim echols &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc1210.mail.yahoo.com/=
mc/compose?to=3Deekamouse67@yahoo.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymail=
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<DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SI=
ZE: medium"><B>Date: </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FO=
NT-SIZE: medium">December 14, 2012 12:41:30 PM PST<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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ZE: medium"><B>To: </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT=
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<DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SI=
ZE: medium"><B>Subject: </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica';=
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ZE: medium"><B>Reply-To: </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'=
; FONT-SIZE: medium"><A href=3D"http://us.mc1210.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?=
to=3Deekam0use67@yahoo.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:eekam0use67@yahoo.com"><A href=3D"http://us.mc1210.mail.yahoo.com/mc/comp=
ose?to=3Deekam0use67@yahoo.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"m=
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<TD vAlign=3Dtop>Hello,<BR><BR>&nbsp;This message may be coming to you as a=
 surprise but I need your help. Few days back we made an unannounced vacati=
on trip to Manila, Philippines. Everything was going fine until last night =
when we got mugged on our way back to the hotel, all cash and credit card w=
ere stolen off from us but luckily we still have our passports with us.<BR>=
<BR>I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping is=
sues at all they asked us to wait for 3 weeks but we can't wait till then a=
nd our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settli=
ng the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle=
 the hotel bills, Dealing with foreign authorities here is extremely frustr=
ating, It would take us about 24 hours to get everything straighten out bef=
ore we could leave, we are freaked out at the moment...I really need your f=
inancial assistance.<BR><BR>Please let me know if you could help us
 out financially?<BR><BR>&nbsp; Tim.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE>=
</DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></tab=
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So inspired by the lap steel Lollar Valco style pickup and the little singl=
e 6V6 Valco amp i played some bends=2C improvised and mangled through the O=
ctatrack=2C also strongly inspired by Bill Walker... I even created some ED=
P/LP1  style replace stuff with the looper machine in the Octatrack.. All g=
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So inspired by the lap steel Lollar Valco style pickup and the little singl=
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ctatrack=2C also strongly inspired by Bill Walker...&nbsp=3B<div>I even cre=
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e Octatrack..&nbsp=3B</div><div>All guitar (although l mangled=2C looped an=
d sequenced it) except the drum-loop.. all recorded in one live take...&nbs=
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Hey, party people.

I've been on the forum for about five years now. Moved from looped
ambient guitar to more production-based stuff. Only been doing
electronic for two years now (music for 14 or so), and wanted to see
what people thought of my current track / style.

I'd really appreciate some feedback. The move from looping to
arrangement has been interesting, and required me to change how I
visualize music.

Anyway,
http://soundcloud.com/seyoncejamz/inner-body-i

Thanks,
Marcus

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Very nice work Anders, you are getting some great sounds and I really  
like how this improvisation evolves.   tell me,  do you have the cover  
on that pickup with the strings going thru it, can you direct me to a  
photo posting of the instrument. I've played several valco made lap  
steels over the years , had a double neck supro for a short time and i  
understand completely what the allure is sound wise, I found for lap  
that the string thru design inhibited certain playing techniques  
closer to the bridge that I like to use but I hear you can remove the  
tops of the lollars, is this true? Lollar makes another pickup that  
intrigues me called they El Rayo that looks very interesting to me.  
Thanks for the props.
  Bill

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Once a year I seem to post this question on good 1U mixers for looping...

Im wondering if anyone has any experience with the Samson SM10 i u mixer? My
trusty Behringer eurorack pro has become unreliable, cutting
out intermittently (particularly on high volume--- weird  can this be???) I
think... I say I think, cos i might be a cable, or the headphones or...
well needs investigation.

Now on a cursory google, I find this Samson thing. What initially appeals
is the 2 aux sends, although one is quoted as "monitor". I always lose my
send on the eurocks for sending to loopers, be nice to add a reverb on
another aux.

My other, more expensive option, is to get a secondhand Motu Traveller that
I know of, Im keen on this cos it gives me a nice soundcard too, but can be
used stand-alone. My only fear here is that its mybe not useful for quick
on the fly grab and go mixing, at gigs. But prob more HQ in the long run,
with eq and all sorts of other shit.

Any thought from my people that know?

Mark



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<font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><span style=
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as become unreliable, cutting out=A0intermittently=A0(particularly on high =
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yle><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight:normal;line-height:21px">Now on a cursory google, I find =
this Samson thing. What initially appeals is the 2 aux sends, although one =
is quoted as &quot;monitor&quot;. I always lose my send on the eurocks for =
sending to loopers, be nice to add a reverb on another aux.</span></font></=
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<div style><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><s=
pan style=3D"font-weight:normal;line-height:21px"><br></span></font></div><=
div style><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight:normal;line-height:21px">My other, more expensive o=
ption, is to get a secondhand Motu Traveller that I know of, Im keen on thi=
s cos it gives me a nice soundcard too, but can be used stand-alone. My onl=
y fear here is that its mybe not useful for quick on the fly grab and go mi=
xing, at gigs. But prob more HQ in the long run, with eq and all sorts of o=
ther shit.</span></font></div>

<div style><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><s=
pan style=3D"font-weight:normal;line-height:21px"><br></span></font></div><=
div style><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><sp=
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Hi Dean thax for yor info,im following your advice by icing my elbow as we =
speak=0AI would be interested what kinds of mods were made for your guitar?=
=0Ai wonder how all these rock n rollers all the way from Chuck Berry,Jimmy=
 Page,Brian Setzer and Adrian Belew to name a few have survived such syndro=
mes hanging their guitars so low for so many years!=0AGuess Robert Fripp go=
t smarter by sitting down;-)=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com=
/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "Dean, Hal=
" <HDean@wcupa.edu>=0ATo: Luis Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com>; "Loopers-De=
light@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> =0ASent: M=
onday, December 10, 2012 4:48 PM=0ASubject: RE: Tennis Elbow=0A =0A=0A =0AL=
uis,=0A=C2=A0=0AI had terrible problems 12 years ago and went through more =
than a year of effort to deal with it. In my case it was the right arm; mor=
e specifically, =C2=A0picking hand all the way up to shoulder. I had starte=
d playing classical guitar again too soon after shattering my right wrist =
=E2=80=93 I thought I had healed completely, but I was wrong. My hand start=
ed to hurt and I had elbow pain too. I had a classic case of =E2=80=9Cdread=
nought disease=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 look it up, read for example about what h=
appened to Kottke.=0A=C2=A0=0AI had hand therapy for about 4 months, once a=
 week. It took a while to show results, but I got better. The therapy consi=
sted of focused massage and joint manipulation, electrical current, and ice=
. I did not play at all for these 4 months. When I was better and insurance=
 was no longer going to pick up the tab, I still didn=E2=80=99t play for a =
month or so, and focused on yoga, shiatsu and ICE.=0A=C2=A0=0AAfter I start=
ed to play again I =C2=A0developed tendonitis, with =C2=A0symptoms similar =
=C2=A0to yours. More therapy coupled with ICE dealt with that.=0A=C2=A0=0AI=
 keep capitalizing ice because, for me at least, it was key to recovery. My=
 family doc says, =E2=80=9CIce always, heat never.=E2=80=9D I put an ice pa=
ck on my arm for the drive to work. I iced my arm for a half hour when I ar=
rived back from work. I went to sleep with an ice pack under the affected a=
rea. I developed a high tolerance for the pain of freezing; maybe I=E2=80=
=99m just lucky I never got an ice burn.=0A=C2=A0=0ABeing mindful of where =
I put stress, taking breaks from practice, and icing as needed has kept me =
in good shape for many years now. I also had a guitar made with a Manzer we=
dge and a Ryan bevel (they were not called that then), both ergonomic featu=
res that address some of the underlying causes for MY problems.=0A=C2=A0=0A=
Your left hand problem, assuming you are not a lefty, is different in some =
regards. Maybe all you can take away from my tale is the assurance that it =
can heal, that ice is your friend, and that good PT is valuable.=0A=C2=A0=
=0AHal Dean=0A=C2=A0=0AFrom:Luis Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@yahoo.com] =0A=
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:10 AM=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com=0ASubject: Tennis Elbow=0A=C2=A0=0AHi Folks,=0Asince august i stated=
 having pains im my left arm,specially around my elbow and wrist.=0AI have =
problems gripping anything,specially the fretboard of the gutiar or even ho=
lding a glass full of water=0Athis seems to be a common problem not only wi=
th tennis players or golfers but also with guitarrists,celloists,vilolinist=
s,drummers etc.=0Aim currently doing a therapy but i question its effective=
ness=0AHas anybody suffered from this? what kind of solutions did you find =
or would recommend?=0Athanx!=0ALuis=0A=C2=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisa=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Hi Dean thax for yor =
info,im following your advice by icing my elbow as we speak<br>I would be i=
nterested what kinds of mods were made for your guitar?<br>i wonder how all=
 these rock n rollers all the way from Chuck Berry,Jimmy Page,Brian Setzer =
and Adrian Belew to name a few have survived such syndromes hanging their g=
uitars so low for so many years!<br>Guess Robert Fripp got smarter by sitti=
ng down;-)<br>Luis<br><div><span><br></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>htt=
p://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom<br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: tim=
es new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font=
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ir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span styl=
e=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "Dean, Hal" &lt;HDean@wcupa.edu&gt=
;<br>
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Luis Angulo &lt;louie=
.angulo@yahoo.com&gt;; "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" &lt;Loopers-De=
light@loopers-delight.com&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Se=
nt:</span></b> Monday, December 10, 2012 4:48 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: Tennis Elbow<br> </font> </div> <br=
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sp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">I had terrible problems 12 years ago and went=
 through more than a year of effort to deal with it. In my case it was the =
right arm; more specifically, &nbsp;picking=0A hand all the way up to shoul=
der. I had started playing classical guitar again too soon after shattering=
 my right wrist =E2=80=93 I thought I had healed completely, but I was wron=
g. My hand started to hurt and I had elbow pain too. I had a classic case o=
f =E2=80=9Cdreadnought=0A disease=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 look it up, read for e=
xample about what happened to Kottke.</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv7596=
54173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</sp=
an></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">I had hand therapy for about 4 months, once a week. =
It took a while to show results, but I got better. The therapy consisted of=
 focused massage and joint manipulation,=0A electrical current, and ice. I =
did not play at all for these 4 months. When I was better and insurance was=
 no longer going to pick up the tab, I still didn=E2=80=99t play for a mont=
h or so, and focused on yoga, shiatsu and ICE.</span></div> =0A<div class=
=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">=
 &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">After I started to play again I &nbsp;dev=
eloped tendonitis, with &nbsp;symptoms similar &nbsp;to yours. More therapy=
 coupled with ICE dealt with that.</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv7596541=
73MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span>=
</div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;color:#1F497D;">I keep capitalizing ice because, for me at least, it wa=
s key to recovery. My family doc says, =E2=80=9CIce always, heat never.=E2=
=80=9D I put an ice pack on my arm for the=0A drive to work. I iced my arm =
for a half hour when I arrived back from work. I went to sleep with an ice =
pack under the affected area. I developed a high tolerance for the pain of =
freezing; maybe I=E2=80=99m just lucky I never got an ice burn.</span></div=
> =0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;c=
olor:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Being mindful of where I p=
ut stress, taking breaks from practice, and icing as needed has kept me in =
good shape for many years now. I also had a guitar made=0A with a Manzer we=
dge and a Ryan bevel (they were not called that then), both ergonomic featu=
res that address some of the underlying causes for MY problems.</span></div=
> =0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;c=
olor:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Your left hand problem, as=
suming you are not a lefty, is different in some regards. Maybe all you can=
 take away from my tale is the assurance that it can heal,=0A that ice is y=
our friend, and that <b>good</b> PT is valuable.</span></div> =0A<div class=
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ng:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><b><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">=
 Luis Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@yahoo.com]=0A<br>=0A<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, =
December 09, 2012 4:10 AM<br>=0A<b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
com<br>=0A<b>Subject:</b> Tennis Elbow</span></div> =0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<d=
iv class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div> =0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div cl=
ass=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"co=
lor:black;">Hi Folks,</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv759=
654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">since august i stated having =
pains im my left arm,specially around my elbow and wrist.</span></div> =0A<=
/div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:b=
lack;">I have problems gripping anything,specially the fretboard of the gut=
iar or even holding a glass full of water</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A=
<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">this seem=
s to be a common problem not only with tennis players or golfers but also w=
ith guitarrists,celloists,vilolinists,drummers etc.</span></div> =0A</div>=
=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;=
">im currently doing a therapy but i question its effectiveness</span></div=
> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv759654173MsoNormal"><span style=3D"c=
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nese make little silver and enamel covered small balls which are designed, =
specifically, to be rotated inside of the palm.&nbsp;  Rotate them around e=
ach other inside of your palm in a clock wise direction for 20 times and th=
en rotate them around each other inside of your palm in a counter-clockwise=
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
It's Analog Overdose month!  Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic
Travels, I'll continue the the month-long Special Focus on Keller and
Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog Overdose 4+"
on Manikin Records.  The Special Focus page is at:
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

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Hi,

just make a search for baoding balls.
They are easy to find usually. Is there a Chinese restaurant or shop=20
near your home=3F


Ben.
--------------------------------------------------
Luis Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote:
(20/12/2012 17:57)

> Rick wrote:
>=20
> Towards that end, with Hand and Finger pain,=C2=A0  the Chinese make litt=
le silver and enamel covered small balls which are designed, specifically, =
to be rotated inside of the palm.=C2=A0  Rotate them around each other insi=
de of your palm in a clock wise direction for 20 times and then rotate them=
 around each other inside of your palm in a counter-clockwise direction for=
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 single set of major muscles in your hands, equally.
>=20
> Rick if you a link to these balls please send it,ill see if i can find th=
em here in Germany
> Im still going for all i can to solve this issue!
> Thanx buddy
> Luis

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Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up.  What's a good successor 
I can get, O Informed Ones?  Thanks.

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Proving Analog and Looping are more than synths and pedals here's
something from the vaults just in time for holiday hangovers. The
Overdrive Date Master recording that started whatever fuss we eventually
got. Noisy, fun, and above all, perfect for picking up fallen tree needle=
s
when you've spilled the egg nog.

Full Blog post with pictures and free download (with bonus inserts):

http://synthandi.blogspot.com/2012/12/happy-vintage-holidays.html

For gear whores we're taking a half dozen Fender VibroChamps, tape echos,
MS20, DIy Theremin, and library of Congress for the blind 8RPM turntables
and pitch shifting tape players. Psychedelic THAT Santa.



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mark francombe wrote:
> Once a year I seem to post this question on good 1U mixers for looping...
> 
> Im wondering if anyone has any experience with the Samson SM10 i u mixer?

that's a new one...i think

v.interesting

> 
> 
>     My trusty Behringer eurorack pro has become unreliable, cutting
>     out intermittently (particularly on high volume--- weird  can this
>     be???)

yes, pots that cut out on max volume are possible in Behringer stuff

> I think... I say I think, cos i might be a cable, or the
>     headphones or... well needs investigation.
> 
> 
> Now on a cursory google, I find this Samson thing. What initially 
> appeals is the 2 aux sends, although one is quoted as "monitor".

monitor send is pre fade, and stereo (on one jack)

> Any thought from my people that know?

having experience of the Alesis Line 8 mixer which is v. similar,
I'm thinking I'd probably prefer this one.

..but no schematic! 

..and not that I'm a person who knows..

andy

> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no/>
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/

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I'm not sure if this was posted yet, so...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7dIkonCfFE

Some very cool stuff in there.

-- 
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I'm on the beta, and I can tell you, all of that particular shiznit WORKS. A=
nd is indeed cool.=20

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

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> I'm not sure if this was posted yet, so...
>=20
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY7dIkonCfFE
>=20
> Some very cool stuff in there.
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> --=20
> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Tony
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:-) hmm, you can now reverse a midi-clip.

That was something you could do in the very early (on a floppy disc) Cubase,
and was very soon dropped.

strange how things come round...hope it catches on this time.

andy



Tony K wrote:
> I'm not sure if this was posted yet, so...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7dIkonCfFE
> 
> Some very cool stuff in there.
> 

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Yeah, I thought it looked pretty good too... Amazing price in the US too...
damn that shipping... looking for one nearer as we speak... One prefade and
one Post is REAL usefull.. I like my looper send to be prefade, so I can
cut the input and only hear the added snips (in substitutes).. the post
nice for reverbs etc... Im not sure what I would so about the 2 mic
channels, dont think I really need them, but wait.. i think its both mike
and line in...

definately sold on this...

M


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> mark francombe wrote:
>
>> Once a year I seem to post this question on good 1U mixers for looping...
>>
>> Im wondering if anyone has any experience with the Samson SM10 i u mixer?
>>
>
> that's a new one...i think
>
> v.interesting
>
>
>
>>
>>     My trusty Behringer eurorack pro has become unreliable, cutting
>>     out intermittently (particularly on high volume--- weird  can this
>>     be???)
>>
>
> yes, pots that cut out on max volume are possible in Behringer stuff
>
>
>  I think... I say I think, cos i might be a cable, or the
>>     headphones or... well needs investigation.
>>
>>
>> Now on a cursory google, I find this Samson thing. What initially appeals
>> is the 2 aux sends, although one is quoted as "monitor".
>>
>
> monitor send is pre fade, and stereo (on one jack)
>
>
>  Any thought from my people that know?
>>
>
> having experience of the Alesis Line 8 mixer which is v. similar,
> I'm thinking I'd probably prefer this one.
>
> ..but no schematic!
> ..and not that I'm a person who knows..
>
> andy
>
>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> /_Mark Francombe_/
>> www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com/**>
>> www.ordoabkhao.com <http://www.ordoabkhao.com/>
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no/>
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**24478662@N00/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/>
>>
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yeah, I thought it looked pretty good too... Amazing price=
 in the US too... damn that shipping... looking for one nearer as we speak.=
.. One prefade and one Post is REAL usefull.. I like my looper send to be p=
refade, so I can cut the input and only hear the added snips (in substitute=
s).. the post nice for reverbs etc... Im not sure what I would so about the=
 2 mic channels, dont think I really need them, but wait.. i think its both=
 mike and line in...<div>

<br></div><div style>definately sold on this...</div><div style><br></div><=
div style>M=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">akbutler@t=
iscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
mark francombe wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Once a year I seem to post this question on good 1U mixers for looping...<b=
r>
<br>
Im wondering if anyone has any experience with the Samson SM10 i u mixer?<b=
r>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
that&#39;s a new one...i think<br>
<br>
v.interesting<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 My trusty Behringer eurorack pro has become unreliable, cutting<br>
=A0 =A0 out intermittently (particularly on high volume--- weird =A0can thi=
s<br>
=A0 =A0 be???)<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
yes, pots that cut out on max volume are possible in Behringer stuff<div cl=
ass=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I think... I say I think, cos i might be a cable, or the<br>
=A0 =A0 headphones or... well needs investigation.<br>
<br>
<br>
Now on a cursory google, I find this Samson thing. What initially appeals i=
s the 2 aux sends, although one is quoted as &quot;monitor&quot;.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
monitor send is pre fade, and stereo (on one jack)<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Any thought from my people that know?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
having experience of the Alesis Line 8 mixer which is v. similar,<br>
I&#39;m thinking I&#39;d probably prefer this one.<br>
<br>
..but no schematic! <br>
..and not that I&#39;m a person who knows..<br>
<br>
andy<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Mark<br>
<br>
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<br>
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Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but for all =
the audio on the album, I only used my double bass. It is called "Uh oh, =
Here Come The Pig Mammoths" and each track off of the album is =
accompanied by text and an illustration. Originally my father was going =
to do the illustration but he passed away unexpectedly last year. It has =
been a rough ride but it feels good to release the album now as a =
dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventures in music.

You can listen to the album @  toddmatthews.bandcamp.com=20

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I hope all you loopers are having a wonderful holiday season with family =
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dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventures in =
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Thanks for your kind comments Bill. The pickup is a Lollar Supro/valco with=
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 xept if I wanna do metal style thugga=2C thugga :-). I haven't tried or he=
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that it should be possible..THis is how it looks=2C the guitar: http://www.=
pbase.com/dkauer744/image/143880439.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/dkauer744/image=
/143880441.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/dkauer744/image/143880442.jpghttp://www.=
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El rayo also seems like a GREAT pickup but I have also heard a few GREAT cl=
ips of the Chigago steel by Lance Keltner (google.. he plays some ultra coo=
l Cardinal instruments).
Thanks=2C
Anders

> From: billwalker@baymoon.com
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: re:rAW oRGANIC eLECTRONIC (Bill Walker inspired music)
> Date: Wed=2C 19 Dec 2012 02:12:30 -0800
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> steels over the years =2C had a double neck supro for a short time and i =
=20
> understand completely what the allure is sound wise=2C I found for lap =20
> that the string thru design inhibited certain playing techniques =20
> closer to the bridge that I like to use but I hear you can remove the =20
> tops of the lollars=2C is this true? Lollar makes another pickup that =20
> intrigues me called they El Rayo that looks very interesting to me. =20
> Thanks for the props.
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BAODING BALLS,  for use in RSI conditions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baoding_balls

HOW TO USE THEM:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/95130-use-baoding-balls/


CHEAPEST ON THE WEB:
http://www.opentip.com/Home-Kitchen/Baoding-Balls-Silver-p-3567726.html?gclid=CM_y-IOUqrQCFYp_Qgodhz8A3w

btw,  frequently, these balls have little bells inside of them that are 
very beautiful to use as a found sound.
Additionally,  if you take the Silver ones (and this is the cheapest 
price I could find online)  and force them
together, they make a very hip buzzing sound.

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by the way,  about the use of ice:

You have to be very, very careful with ice packs.
Both my Western Physician and my Chinese Acupuncturist gave me this advice
independent of each other:       Do not ice for more than 20 minutes at 
a time.

You can damage muscle tissue and nerves by over freezing.


I've also heard this advice which is contrary to a recent post where 
someone's doctor said 'never heat'.

Ice until the injury starts to be manageable and then you can alternate 
ice with heat:
The theory proposed there is that ice reduces swelling  and when 
appropriate,  heat brings
blood (and with it, the rebuilding components of the body).

I'd say, though, in the final analysis, that you should get a good 
physician or alternate healer
and stick with one set of advice about it all.

Rick

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Thanks for the post Rick!

I found the sound, and now I give it back to the rest of u... Ha

Do they make the balls with no bells inside?

Teddy
http://teddyjam.com

On Dec 20, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> BAODING BALLS,  for use in RSI conditions:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baoding_balls
>=20
> HOW TO USE THEM:
> http://www.livestrong.com/article/95130-use-baoding-balls/
>=20
>=20
> CHEAPEST ON THE WEB:
> http://www.opentip.com/Home-Kitchen/Baoding-Balls-Silver-p-3567726.html?gc=
lid=3DCM_y-IOUqrQCFYp_Qgodhz8A3w
>=20
> btw,  frequently, these balls have little bells inside of them that are ve=
ry beautiful to use as a found sound.
> Additionally,  if you take the Silver ones (and this is the cheapest price=
 I could find online)  and force them
> together, they make a very hip buzzing sound.
>=20

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=0Athey are useful and a lot of fun, but while i love the sound, some peopl=
e actively despise it, so be careful who's in the room with you! (lol) gawd=
, i used to drive my household bonkers!=0A=0ATim Mungenast=0AEditor/Writer/=
Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast=0AGuitarist/Composer/Vocalist=
: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast=0A=0A=0A--- On Thu, 12/20/12, Rick Walk=
er <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:=0A=0A> From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.c=
om>=0A> Subject: Re: Tennis Elbow=0A> To: "LUIS ANGULO" <louie.angulo@yahoo=
.com>, "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>, "=
LUIS ANGULO" <labaloops@yahoo.com>, "Luis Angulo" <louie.a.angulo@googlemai=
l.com>=0A> Date: Thursday, December 20, 2012, 6:43 PM=0A> BAODING BALLS,=A0=
 for use in RSI=0A> conditions:=0A> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baoding_ba=
lls=0A> =0A> HOW TO USE THEM:=0A> http://www.livestrong.com/article/95130-u=
se-baoding-balls/=0A> =0A> =0A> CHEAPEST ON THE WEB:=0A> http://www.opentip=
.com/Home-Kitchen/Baoding-Balls-Silver-p-3567726.html?gclid=3DCM_y-IOUqrQCF=
Yp_Qgodhz8A3w=0A> =0A> btw,=A0 frequently, these balls have little bells in=
side=0A> of them that are very beautiful to use as a found sound.=0A> Addit=
ionally,=A0 if you take the Silver ones (and this is=0A> the cheapest price=
 I could find online)=A0 and force=0A> them=0A> together, they make a very =
hip buzzing sound.=0A> =0A> 

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Welcome Julien,

I think Renoise is cool but I don't have it myself.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:21 PM, julien gury <urbandtribe@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi i'm julien from france i'm 29 years old i read you about a few week but i decided now to communicate with you
> i works with renoise and ken axis(a little) i make idm and dronish music i don'know what to say for present me
>
>
> my music:
> https://soundcloud.com/trepanation
> http://drum-memory.bandcamp.com

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hello Per
yeah renoise is a wonderful soft if you want you can try the demo(the =
demo is really usable)
before i use sytnhedit when i was on windows with some looper player but =
with renoise i have more precision to
make what i want

Le 21 d=E9c. 2012 =E0 10:34, Per Boysen a =E9crit :

> Welcome Julien,
>=20
> I think Renoise is cool but I don't have it myself.
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:21 PM, julien gury <urbandtribe@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>> hi i'm julien from france i'm 29 years old i read you about a few =
week but i decided now to communicate with you
>> i works with renoise and ken axis(a little) i make idm and dronish =
music i don'know what to say for present me
>>=20
>>=20
>> my music:
>> https://soundcloud.com/trepanation
>> http://drum-memory.bandcamp.com
>=20

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mark francombe wrote:
> Yeah, I thought it looked pretty good too... 

>.. Im not sure what I would 
> so about the 2 mic channels,

.....and mic channels without inserts/EQ aren't so useful.

> dont think I really need them, but wait.. i 
> think its both mike and line in...

yes, either mono mic, or mono/stereo line

> 
> definately sold on this...

I'm tempted too,
thanks for finding it.

andy
 



> 
> M 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk 
> <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     mark francombe wrote:
> 
>         Once a year I seem to post this question on good 1U mixers for
>         looping...
> 
>         Im wondering if anyone has any experience with the Samson SM10 i
>         u mixer?
> 
> 
>     that's a new one...i think
> 
>     v.interesting
> 
> 
> 
> 
>             My trusty Behringer eurorack pro has become unreliable, cutting
>             out intermittently (particularly on high volume--- weird
>          can this
>             be???)
> 
> 
>     yes, pots that cut out on max volume are possible in Behringer stuff
> 
> 
>         I think... I say I think, cos i might be a cable, or the
>             headphones or... well needs investigation.
> 
> 
>         Now on a cursory google, I find this Samson thing. What
>         initially appeals is the 2 aux sends, although one is quoted as
>         "monitor".
> 
> 
>     monitor send is pre fade, and stereo (on one jack)
> 
> 
>         Any thought from my people that know?
> 
> 
>     having experience of the Alesis Line 8 mixer which is v. similar,
>     I'm thinking I'd probably prefer this one.
> 
>     ..but no schematic!
>     ..and not that I'm a person who knows..
> 
>     andy
> 
> 
>         Mark
> 
> 
> 
>         -- 
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Yes, but there is one new feature in this Live update: conversion of
an audio recording into polyphonic MIDI data. This means you can throw
a sound sample of the Moonlight Serenade intro at it and receive a
MIDI file with all the playing parts. You still would have to patch up
the appropriate sound for the parts of course to play it back as MIDI.

But that's not so exciting. What I think is very, very exciting in
this is not the software Live but the physical controller instrument
Push. To me this instrument brings a much more efficient way of
playing electronic instruments compared to the traditional piano style
controller. The EWI still rules for shredding and intonation sensitive
melody playing, but for chord work and poly rhythmic multi part
playing I think this Push thing will be fantastic. I noticed that in
its chromatic mode the pad tapping patterns are the same as when
playing on a Chapman Stick's guitar side fretboard with your right
hand.

The Push demo starts at 33 minutes into this video.

Greetings from Sweden

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>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7dIkonCfFE
>
> Some very cool stuff in there.
>
> --
> -==-=-=-
> Tony
>

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I've noticed Renoise users tend to make fun music! Guess that's the
heritage from the mod  scene. I also like the straight
down-to-business attitude in making the computer a musical instrument
- instead of fiddling with lame graphical interfaces that parrot
traditional analog and physical gear. I use Mobius and Augustus Looper
a lot for ripping stuff up and when producing recordings I like to
assemble mock-ups in Logic for finalizing.

Greetings from Sweden

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> hello Per
> yeah renoise is a wonderful soft if you want you can try the demo(the dem=
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> before i use sytnhedit when i was on windows with some looper player but =
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> make what i want
>
> Le 21 d=C3=A9c. 2012 =C3=A0 10:34, Per Boysen a =C3=A9crit :
>
>> Welcome Julien,
>>
>> I think Renoise is cool but I don't have it myself.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboysen.com
>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:21 PM, julien gury <urbandtribe@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>> hi i'm julien from france i'm 29 years old i read you about a few week =
but i decided now to communicate with you
>>> i works with renoise and ken axis(a little) i make idm and dronish musi=
c i don'know what to say for present me
>>>
>>>
>>> my music:
>>> https://soundcloud.com/trepanation
>>> http://drum-memory.bandcamp.com
>>
>

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yes there is a good community for renoise i have seen that you use =
mobius but i don't know what it is
can you give me a link if i have understood it's a looper.
have you a link to your music on band camp or on sound cloud or whatever

Le 21 d=E9c. 2012 =E0 10:59, Per Boysen a =E9crit :

> I've noticed Renoise users tend to make fun music! Guess that's the
> heritage from the mod  scene. I also like the straight
> down-to-business attitude in making the computer a musical instrument
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, julien gury <urbandtribe@gmail.com> wrote:
> mobius but i don't know what it is
> can you give me a link if i have understood it's a looper.

http://www.circularlabs.com/

> have you a link to your music on band camp or on sound cloud or whatever

https://soundcloud.com/pboy/sets/science-technology-music-1

Per

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<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: rgb(0, 0, 0); FONT-SIZE: 12px"><di=
v>&nbsp;Google search &quot;Chinese stress balls&quot; or &quot;Chinese hea=
lth balls&quot;<br /></div><div>&nbsp;u-tube video http://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?v=3DSWPqUHQ-Lgs<br /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"border-top:1=
px solid #bcbcbc;margin:5px 0px;"></div><span style=3D"font-size:12;font-fa=
mily:arial;color:#000000;">On 12/20/12, <span>Luis Angulo&lt;louie.angulo@y=
ahoo.com&gt;</span> wrote:</span><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-size:1=
2;font-family:arial;color:#000000;"><div style=3D"color:#000; background-co=
lor:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12p=
t">Rick wrote:<br /><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, t=
imes, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, =
new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Towards that end, with Hand and F=
inger pain,&nbsp;  the Chinese make little silver and enamel covered small =
balls which are designed, specifically, to be rotated inside of the palm.&n=
bsp;  Rotate them around each other inside of your palm in a clock wise dir=
ection for 20 times and then rotate them around each other inside of your p=
alm in a counter-clockwise direction for another 20 times.&nbsp;  By doing =
this,&nbsp; you are actually using every single set of major muscles in you=
r hands, equally.<br /><br />Rick if you a link to these balls please send =
it,ill see if i can find them here in Germany<br />Im still going for all i=
 can to solve this issue!<br />Thanx buddy<br />Luis<br /> </div> </div>  <=
/div></div></div>

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I've listen to your album Per science and technology i like it =
particularly the 16 song=20
Le 21 d=E9c. 2012 =E0 11:14, Per Boysen a =E9crit :

> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, julien gury <urbandtribe@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>> mobius but i don't know what it is
>> can you give me a link if i have understood it's a looper.
>=20
> http://www.circularlabs.com/
>=20
>> have you a link to your music on band camp or on sound cloud or =
whatever
>=20
> https://soundcloud.com/pboy/sets/science-technology-music-1
>=20
> Per
>=20

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That song was done only with the Alchemy synth detuned into a micro
tonal tuning traditionally used in Burmesian music and then I played
in a different key than the tuning trypically supports.

Per


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:
> I've listen to your album Per science and technology i like it particular=
ly the 16 song
> Le 21 d=C3=A9c. 2012 =C3=A0 11:14, Per Boysen a =C3=A9crit :
>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, julien gury <urbandtribe@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>> mobius but i don't know what it is
>>> can you give me a link if i have understood it's a looper.
>>
>> http://www.circularlabs.com/
>>
>>> have you a link to your music on band camp or on sound cloud or whateve=
r
>>
>> https://soundcloud.com/pboy/sets/science-technology-music-1
>>
>> Per
>>
>

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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121220.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

Show #820 December 20, 2012.

WDIY Playlist:
http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=12-20-2012

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Fanger and Schonwalder.
The Featured CD at Midnight was "Analog Overdose 4+" on Manikin Records.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Terry Furber         untitled             Christmas 2012 on a 1969 Moog
                                             Modular (none)
Bryan Carrigan       Red Moon             Focus (Peonies Music)
Aejotz               Electric Cake        Aejotz (none)
Radio Free Clear     Ohgel                The Labyrinth of Ohgel (Black
   Light                                     Note Music)
Radio Free Clear     The Sparring Chamber The Labyrinth of Ohgel (Black
   Light                                     Note Music)
Parallel Worlds and  Denormal             Morphogenic (DiN)
   Dave Bessell
['ramp]              Rather Far Out       Astral Disaster (Doombient)
['ramp]              Halo Inductor        Astral Disaster (Doombient)


12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Fanger & Schonwalder Frankfurt Breakfast  Analog Overdose 4+ (Manikin)
Fanger & Schonwalder Berlin Lunch         Analog Overdose 4+ (Manikin)
Booth and Creek      Lightwaves *         Lightwaves (none)


1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on
Fanger and Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog
Overdose" (the first one!) on Manikin Records.
WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-12-27

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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does anyone (DJs?) still use hardware samplers anymore? or has everything
gone to computer software?
i was just curious.
seems like all i ever see anymore in DJ pics is computers w/ a small
mixer....but maybe i'm not looking close enough!

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does anyone (DJs?) still use hardware samplers anymore? or has everything gone to computer software?<br>i was just curious.<br>seems like all i ever see anymore in DJ pics is computers w/ a small mixer....but maybe i&#39;m not looking close enough!<br>

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i'm not familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a lexicon
mpx100 unit (bill frisell used the same unit, that's why i bought it!)
mine unfortunately died about 3 yrs after use (i think bill's is still
going strong!). i was bummed, b/c it was one of the rare gear purchases
that i bought NEW!
about 3-4 yrs ago i bought a lexicon mx200 for like $90, used (the original
mpx100 was a $199 purchase)...and it is still going strong.
i like it. i find that i use about 3 or 4 different reverb options that
sound good to me.
good luck!!!
s---




re:
Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up. What's a good successor I
can get, O Informed Ones? Thanks.

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I have the MPX100 also and like it.  Hard to go wrong with Lexicon reverbs.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:
> i'm not familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a lexicon
> mpx100 unit (bill frisell used the same unit, that's why i bought it!)
> mine unfortunately died about 3 yrs after use (i think bill's is still going
> strong!). i was bummed, b/c it was one of the rare gear purchases that i
> bought NEW!
> about 3-4 yrs ago i bought a lexicon mx200 for like $90, used (the original
> mpx100 was a $199 purchase)...and it is still going strong.
> i like it. i find that i use about 3 or 4 different reverb options that
> sound good to me.
> good luck!!!
> s---
>
>
>
>
> re:
> Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up. What's a good successor I
> can get, O Informed Ones? Thanks.



-- 
-==-=-=-
Tony

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I think the main thing I'm looking for is what the QV was very good at: 
Multiple effects with versatile configurability on them...

-----Original Message----- 
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I have the MPX100 also and like it.  Hard to go wrong with Lexicon reverbs.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:
> i'm not familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a lexicon
> mpx100 unit (bill frisell used the same unit, that's why i bought it!)
> mine unfortunately died about 3 yrs after use (i think bill's is still 
> going
> strong!). i was bummed, b/c it was one of the rare gear purchases that i
> bought NEW!
> about 3-4 yrs ago i bought a lexicon mx200 for like $90, used (the 
> original
> mpx100 was a $199 purchase)...and it is still going strong.
> i like it. i find that i use about 3 or 4 different reverb options that
> sound good to me.
> good luck!!!
> s---
>
>
>
>
> re:
> Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up. What's a good successor 
> I
> can get, O Informed Ones? Thanks.



-- 
-==-=-=-
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I am very fond of the Roland SRV-2000 reverb. The DEP-5 and DEP-3 have mult=
i-effects with the once silky smooth sounding reverb algorythm.=0ARig=0A=0A=
=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>=
=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Friday, December 21, 20=
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00 also and like it.=A0 Hard to go wrong with Lexicon reverbs.=0A=0AOn Fri,=
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'm not familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a lexicon=0A=
> mpx100 unit (bill frisell used the same unit, that's why i bought it!)=0A=
> mine unfortunately died about 3 yrs after use (i think bill's is still go=
ing=0A> strong!). i was bummed, b/c it was one of the rare gear purchases t=
hat i=0A> bought NEW!=0A> about 3-4 yrs ago i bought a lexicon mx200 for li=
ke $90, used (the original=0A> mpx100 was a $199 purchase)...and it is stil=
l going strong.=0A> i like it. i find that i use about 3 or 4 different rev=
erb options that=0A> sound good to me.=0A> good luck!!!=0A> s---=0A>=0A>=0A=
>=0A>=0A> re:=0A> Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up. What's=
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erb. The DEP-5 and DEP-3 have multi-effects with the once silky smooth soun=
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erb GT - Replacement?<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>I have the MPX100 also and like i=
t.&nbsp; Hard to go wrong with Lexicon reverbs.<BR><BR>On Fri, Dec 21, 2012=
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 familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a lexicon<BR>&gt; =
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od luck!!!<BR>&gt; s---<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; re:<BR>&gt;=
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On 12/21/2012 7:31 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:
> does anyone (DJs?) still use hardware samplers anymore? or has 
> everything gone to computer software?
> i was just curious.
> seems like all i ever see anymore in DJ pics is computers w/ a small 
> mixer....but maybe i'm not looking close enough!
Man, you can buy hardware samplers for a song on e-bay these days.
No one is using them.

strange to me, but what the heck.  I haven't used mine in ages either.

A lot of older ones are fantastic machines (especially a lot of the 
EMUs)  but they have
really archaic ways of getting samples in and out of the unit.

Rick

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I had a QVGT a long time ago...

Possible successors (assuming you want some of the "guitar effects" from =
the GT):

* Slightly less old, Roland GP-100

* Non-rack: Line6 M13 or M9

* Non-rack: Probably a range of things from Roland/Boss

* More rack spaces: For several years, I was using a Tech21 PSA-1 and a =
Lexicon Vortex. You might want to add a reverb to that but there are a =
range of options in that regard. (I would probably sell my PSA-1 since =
I've moved away from racks. I'm less ready to sell my Vortex.)

* Lacking the guitar centricity but with lots of effects configuration =
options: Korg AM8000R (I've got two and would be willing to sell one)

Mark

P.S. For obscure things in the same direction as the QVGT, there was a =
Yamaha box that combined an SPX90 with a distortion section for =
guitarists. I owned it but can't remember what it was called.

On Dec 21, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

> I think the main thing I'm looking for is what the QV was very good =
at: Multiple effects with versatile configurability on them...
>=20
> -----Original Message----- From: Tony K
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:46 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: QuadraVerb GT - Replacement?
>=20
> I have the MPX100 also and like it.  Hard to go wrong with Lexicon =
reverbs.
>=20
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>> i'm not familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a =
lexicon
>> mpx100 unit (bill frisell used the same unit, that's why i bought =
it!)
>> mine unfortunately died about 3 yrs after use (i think bill's is =
still going
>> strong!). i was bummed, b/c it was one of the rare gear purchases =
that i
>> bought NEW!
>> about 3-4 yrs ago i bought a lexicon mx200 for like $90, used (the =
original
>> mpx100 was a $199 purchase)...and it is still going strong.
>> i like it. i find that i use about 3 or 4 different reverb options =
that
>> sound good to me.
>> good luck!!!
>> s---
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> re:
>> Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up. What's a good =
successor I
>> can get, O Informed Ones? Thanks.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Tony=20
>=20

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Okay. I went back and read the description on the QVGT and my =
recommendations narrow:

Rackmount: Tech21 SansAmp PSA-1 followed by a Korg AM8000R.

Floor: Line6 M13 plus Tech21 amp sim pedals of your choice.

Mark

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> I had a QVGT a long time ago...
>=20
> Possible successors (assuming you want some of the "guitar effects" =
from the GT):
>=20
> * Slightly less old, Roland GP-100
>=20
> * Non-rack: Line6 M13 or M9
>=20
> * Non-rack: Probably a range of things from Roland/Boss
>=20
> * More rack spaces: For several years, I was using a Tech21 PSA-1 and =
a Lexicon Vortex. You might want to add a reverb to that but there are a =
range of options in that regard. (I would probably sell my PSA-1 since =
I've moved away from racks. I'm less ready to sell my Vortex.)
>=20
> * Lacking the guitar centricity but with lots of effects configuration =
options: Korg AM8000R (I've got two and would be willing to sell one)
>=20
> Mark
>=20
> P.S. For obscure things in the same direction as the QVGT, there was a =
Yamaha box that combined an SPX90 with a distortion section for =
guitarists. I owned it but can't remember what it was called.
>=20
> On Dec 21, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
>=20
>> I think the main thing I'm looking for is what the QV was very good =
at: Multiple effects with versatile configurability on them...
>>=20
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tony K
>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:46 AM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: Re: QuadraVerb GT - Replacement?
>>=20
>> I have the MPX100 also and like it.  Hard to go wrong with Lexicon =
reverbs.
>>=20
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>> i'm not familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a =
lexicon
>>> mpx100 unit (bill frisell used the same unit, that's why i bought =
it!)
>>> mine unfortunately died about 3 yrs after use (i think bill's is =
still going
>>> strong!). i was bummed, b/c it was one of the rare gear purchases =
that i
>>> bought NEW!
>>> about 3-4 yrs ago i bought a lexicon mx200 for like $90, used (the =
original
>>> mpx100 was a $199 purchase)...and it is still going strong.
>>> i like it. i find that i use about 3 or 4 different reverb options =
that
>>> sound good to me.
>>> good luck!!!
>>> s---
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> re:
>>> Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up. What's a good =
successor I
>>> can get, O Informed Ones? Thanks.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --=20
>> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
>> Tony=20
>>=20
>=20

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I highly recommend an Ensoniq DP/4+ or DP/2.   I helped develop the 
amp simulator ("Guitar amp 4") and programmed many of the presets. 
It's a real swiss army knife of DSP tools...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ensoniq-DP-2-Parallel-Effects-F-X-Processor-Audio-Rack-Mount-/121041332041?pt=US_Signal_Processors_Rack_Effects&hash=item1c2ea02749





-- 

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://albumcredits.com/zmix

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Traktor has an interesting sampler specifically for DJing. There's also the O=
ctatrack. I use them.

Sent from my iPhone

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> On 12/21/2012 7:31 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:
>> does anyone (DJs?) still use hardware samplers anymore? or has everything=
 gone to computer software?
>> i was just curious.
>> seems like all i ever see anymore in DJ pics is computers w/ a small mixe=
r....but maybe i'm not looking close enough!
> Man, you can buy hardware samplers for a song on e-bay these days.
> No one is using them.
>=20
> strange to me, but what the heck.  I haven't used mine in ages either.
>=20
> A lot of older ones are fantastic machines (especially a lot of the EMUs) =
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> really archaic ways of getting samples in and out of the unit.
>=20
> Rick
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I really enjoy the Traktor remix deck approach to sampling.  Recently I =
have taken to running Traktor and Mobius in Live 8.  I loop live with =
Mobius and DJ the resulting loops with Traktor Remix decks.  Tres kewl=85 =
 wish I had more time to explore the many workflow possibilities =
therein.

BTW, I have a few flagship EMU samplers and the entire EMU sample =
library in my attic if any one wants the stuff-- ping me.  They are =
absolutely phenomenal sampler/synths and the sound library is world =
class.  I love the stuff..  but I am never going back to racks full of =
gear connected with snakes. I am too old for the schlepp and these days, =
virtual instruments sound absolutely stunning!=20

Daniel

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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 12/21/2012 7:31 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:
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>>> i was just curious.
>>> seems like all i ever see anymore in DJ pics is computers w/ a small =
mixer....but maybe i'm not looking close enough!
>> Man, you can buy hardware samplers for a song on e-bay these days.
>> No one is using them.
>>=20
>> strange to me, but what the heck.  I haven't used mine in ages =
either.
>>=20
>> A lot of older ones are fantastic machines (especially a lot of the =
EMUs)  but they have
>> really archaic ways of getting samples in and out of the unit.
>>=20
>> Rick
>>=20
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I love my DP4.
Don't use it much for vocal reverbs, but the effects are wonderful on =
instruments. And it syncs to MBC.
Sync not a big deal now, but it was at the time.

Thanks for the excellent work, Charles!

richard sales
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www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.goodnaturefarms.com











On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote:

> I highly recommend an Ensoniq DP/4+ or DP/2.   I helped develop the =
amp simulator ("Guitar amp 4") and programmed many of the presets. It's =
a real swiss army knife of DSP tools...
>=20
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Rack-Mount-/121041332041?pt=3DUS_Signal_Processors_Rack_Effects&hash=3Dite=
m1c2ea02749
>=20
>=20
>=20
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> http://www.zmix.net
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type=3D"cite"><div>I highly recommend an Ensoniq DP/4+ or DP/2. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;I helped develop the amp simulator ("Guitar amp 4") and =
programmed many of the presets. It's a real swiss army knife of DSP =
tools...<br><br><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ensoniq-DP-2-Parallel-Effects-F-X-Processo=
r-Audio-Rack-Mount-/121041332041?pt=3DUS_Signal_Processors_Rack_Effects&am=
p;hash=3Ditem1c2ea02749">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ensoniq-DP-2-Parallel-Eff=
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s_Rack_Effects&amp;hash=3Ditem1c2ea02749</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>-- =
<br><br>...<br>http://www.zmix.net<br><br>http://albumcredits.com/zmix<br>=
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=0AI like the Alesis Nanoverb - got 2, even.=0A=0AOne is still in rack form=
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elt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want t=
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 Nanoverb - got 2, even.<br><br>One is still in rack form and I had one re-=
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different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you righ=
t now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song
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Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself.   Sam Phillips, "Walk th=
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On 21.12.2012, at 14:07, bill bigrig wrote:

> I am very fond of the Roland SRV-2000 reverb.

I bought it when it came out and loved it
but then I bought a PCM70 and liked it more even. it felt like turning =
the full room into an empty room

> The DEP-5 and DEP-3 have multi-effects with the once silky smooth =
sounding reverb algorythm.

those I did not like
also quadraverb is ok but inferior to the mentioned


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Looks & sounds super Todd! I can only guess how much work went into it. =
What a nice testament to your father.

On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

> Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but for =
all the audio on the album, I only used my double bass. It is called "Uh =
oh, Here Come The Pig Mammoths" and each track off of the album is =
accompanied by text and an illustration. Originally my father was going =
to do the illustration but he passed away unexpectedly last year. It has =
been a rough ride but it feels good to release the album now as a =
dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventures in music.
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> You can listen to the album @  toddmatthews.bandcamp.com=20
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> If you click on each song individually on the bandcamp site you can =
preview each illustration as well.=20
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> I hope all you loopers are having a wonderful holiday season with =
family and friends!
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> -----------------------------------------------
> Todd Matthews
> http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
> http://twitter.com/toddmbass
> http://toddbass.com
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Looks =
&amp; sounds super Todd! I can only guess how much work went into it. =
What a nice testament to your father.<div><br><div><div>On Dec 21, 2012, =
at 7:43 AM, Todd Matthews &lt;<a =
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"><div>Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but =
for all the audio on the album, I only used my double bass. It is called =
"Uh oh, Here Come The Pig Mammoths" and each track off of the album is =
accompanied by text and an illustration. Originally my father was going =
to do the illustration but he passed away unexpectedly last year. It has =
been a rough ride but it feels good to release the album now as a =
dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventures in =
music.</div><div><br></div><div>You can listen to the album @ &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://toddmatthews.bandcamp.com/">toddmatthews.bandcamp.com</a>&n=
bsp;</div><div><br></div><div>If you click on each song individually on =
the bandcamp site you can preview each illustration as =
well.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I hope all you loopers are having a =
wonderful holiday season with family and =
friends!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div =
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hi loopers=2C
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I have kept in touch with the list except in digest form so I dont know wha=
t people are doing loop wise or gear wise these days. I am still using old =
lexicon jammans=2C old boomerangs and rc-50. I play guitar and use loops to=
 play live and improvise=2CI emulate bass on guitar and use the  lexicon ja=
mmans to sync the bass lines and then guitar loops usually through the boom=
erangs=2C drums are samples synced to the lexicon jammans. .Anyway=2C this =
is what I have been doing with loops =2Chere my 3 newest albums (well with =
are 30 sec samples from amazon):
=20
 http://www.dtguitar.com/album170mp3paynew.html
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http://www.dtguitar.com/album171mp3paynew.html
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http://www.dtguitar.com/album172mp3paynew.html
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I have kept in touch with the list except in digest form so I dont know wha=
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lexicon jammans=2C old boomerangs and rc-50. I play guitar and use loops to=
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icon jammans to sync the bass lines and then guitar loops usually through t=
he boomerangs=2C drums are samples synced to the lexicon jammans. .Anyway=
=2C this is what I have been doing with loops =2Chere my 3 newest albums (w=
ell&nbsp=3Bwith are 30 sec samples from amazon):<BR>
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> Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun of
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I haven't used the Quadraverb, but I'm loving the Eventide Space pedal. =
Possibly one of the most exciting reverb pedals I have ever used. =
Another one I use and like a lot is the Strymon BlueSky.

Check them out on YouTube. The Space has the Blackhole effect that is =
also sold as a plugin.

P


On Dec 21, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

> Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up.  What's a good =
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I very recently picked up an Octatrack. I noticed that some other =
members here use it. It's like a sample, looper, MIDI sequencer, mangler =
all in one.

I haven't had time to sit down with it and try to learn it, but it seems =
to be getting quite a few good reviews. People seem to either love it or =
hate it.

P
On Dec 22, 2012, at 5:02 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

> I really enjoy the Traktor remix deck approach to sampling.  Recently =
I have taken to running Traktor and Mobius in Live 8.  I loop live with =
Mobius and DJ the resulting loops with Traktor Remix decks.  Tres kewl=85 =
 wish I had more time to explore the many workflow possibilities =
therein.
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> BTW, I have a few flagship EMU samplers and the entire EMU sample =
library in my attic if any one wants the stuff-- ping me.  They are =
absolutely phenomenal sampler/synths and the sound library is world =
class.  I love the stuff..  but I am never going back to racks full of =
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>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 12/21/2012 7:31 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:
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everything gone to computer software?
>>>> i was just curious.
>>>> seems like all i ever see anymore in DJ pics is computers w/ a =
small mixer....but maybe i'm not looking close enough!
>>> Man, you can buy hardware samplers for a song on e-bay these days.
>>> No one is using them.
>>>=20
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either.
>>>=20
>>> A lot of older ones are fantastic machines (especially a lot of the =
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>>> really archaic ways of getting samples in and out of the unit.
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Thank you Ed!

It did take up all my free time the past couple years. You would think =
I'd be done now but it's been just as busy fulfilling all these =
kickstarter rewards.


-----------------------------------------------
Todd Matthews
http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
http://twitter.com/toddmbass
http://toddbass.com





On Dec 22, 2012, at 2:12 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp> =
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> Looks & sounds super Todd! I can only guess how much work went into =
it. What a nice testament to your father.
>=20
> On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>> Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but for =
all the audio on the album, I only used my double bass. It is called "Uh =
oh, Here Come The Pig Mammoths" and each track off of the album is =
accompanied by text and an illustration. Originally my father was going =
to do the illustration but he passed away unexpectedly last year. It has =
been a rough ride but it feels good to release the album now as a =
dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventures in music.
>>=20
>> You can listen to the album @  toddmatthews.bandcamp.com=20
>>=20
>> If you click on each song individually on the bandcamp site you can =
preview each illustration as well.=20
>>=20
>> I hope all you loopers are having a wonderful holiday season with =
family and friends!
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Todd Matthews
>> http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
>> http://twitter.com/toddmbass
>> http://toddbass.com
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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> Ed Durbrow
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<br><div><div>On Dec 22, 2012, at 2:12 AM, Ed Durbrow &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp">edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp</a>&gt; =
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charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Looks =
&amp; sounds super Todd! I can only guess how much work went into it. =
What a nice testament to your father.<div><br><div><div>On Dec 21, 2012, =
at 7:43 AM, Todd Matthews &lt;<a =
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wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
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charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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"><div>Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but =
for all the audio on the album, I only used my double bass. It is called =
"Uh oh, Here Come The Pig Mammoths" and each track off of the album is =
accompanied by text and an illustration. Originally my father was going =
to do the illustration but he passed away unexpectedly last year. It has =
been a rough ride but it feels good to release the album now as a =
dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventures in =
music.</div><div><br></div><div>You can listen to the album @ &nbsp;<a =
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bsp;</div><div><br></div><div>If you click on each song individually on =
the bandcamp site you can preview each illustration as =
well.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I hope all you loopers are having a =
wonderful holiday season with family and =
friends!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div =
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"><div>-----------------------------------------------</div><div>Todd =
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Sir, you are brilliant. LOVE the music here.

-Bennett
On Dec 20, 2012 4:43 PM, "Todd Matthews" <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

> Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but for all
> the audio on the album, I only used my double bass. It is called "Uh oh,
> Here Come The Pig Mammoths" and each track off of the album is accompanied
> by text and an illustration. Originally my father was going to do the
> illustration but he passed away unexpectedly last year. It has been a rough
> ride but it feels good to release the album now as a dedication to him. He
> always fully supported my adventures in music.
>
> You can listen to the album @  toddmatthews.bandcamp.com
>
> If you click on each song individually on the bandcamp site you can
> preview each illustration as well.
>
> I hope all you loopers are having a wonderful holiday season with family
> and friends!
>
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Todd Matthews
> http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
> http://twitter.com/toddmbass
> http://toddbass.com
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<p>Sir, you are brilliant. LOVE the music here.</p>
<p>-Bennett</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Dec 20, 2012 4:43 PM, &quot;Todd Matthews&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
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ally looping technically, but for all the audio on the album, I only used m=
y double bass. It is called &quot;Uh oh, Here Come The Pig Mammoths&quot; a=
nd each track off of the album is accompanied by text and an illustration. =
Originally my father was going to do the illustration but he passed away un=
expectedly last year. It has been a rough ride but it feels good to release=
 the album now as a dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventu=
res in music.</div>
<div><br></div><div>You can listen to the album @ =A0<a href=3D"http://todd=
matthews.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">toddmatthews.bandcamp.com</a>=A0</=
div><div><br></div><div>If you click on each song individually on the bandc=
amp site you can preview each illustration as well.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>I hope all you loopers are having a wonderful holiday s=
eason with family and friends!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>=
</div><br><div>
<div style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;tex=
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i really like your album how much time take it to your album?
julien


http://www.facebook.com/unkzero"
http://drum-memory.bandcamp.com=09
https://soundcloud.com/trepanation

Le 22 d=E9c. 2012 =E0 13:38, Todd Matthews a =E9crit :

> Thank you Ed!
>=20
> It did take up all my free time the past couple years. You would think =
I'd be done now but it's been just as busy fulfilling all these =
kickstarter rewards.
>=20
>=20
> -----------------------------------------------
> Todd Matthews
> http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
> http://twitter.com/toddmbass
> http://toddbass.com
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>=20
>=20
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> On Dec 22, 2012, at 2:12 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp> =
wrote:
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>> Looks & sounds super Todd! I can only guess how much work went into =
it. What a nice testament to your father.
>>=20
>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>> Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but for =
all the audio on the album, I only used my double bass. It is called "Uh =
oh, Here Come The Pig Mammoths" and each track off of the album is =
accompanied by text and an illustration. Originally my father was going =
to do the illustration but he passed away unexpectedly last year. It has =
been a rough ride but it feels good to release the album now as a =
dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventures in music.
>>>=20
>>> You can listen to the album @  toddmatthews.bandcamp.com=20
>>>=20
>>> If you click on each song individually on the bandcamp site you can =
preview each illustration as well.=20
>>>=20
>>> I hope all you loopers are having a wonderful holiday season with =
family and friends!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Todd Matthews
>>> http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
>>> http://twitter.com/toddmbass
>>> http://toddbass.com
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>> Ed Durbrow
>> Saitama, Japan
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=3Dwatch
>> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
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really like your album how much time take it to your =
album?<div>julien</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div =
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><a =
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space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><a =
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<br><div><div>Le 22 d=E9c. 2012 =E0 13:38, Todd Matthews a =E9crit =
:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thank =
you Ed!<div><br></div><div>It did take up all my free time the past =
couple years. You would think I'd be done now but it's been just as busy =
fulfilling all these kickstarter =
rewards.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
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medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
"><div>-----------------------------------------------</div><div>Todd =
Matthews</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/loopbass">http://www.facebook.com/loopbass=
</a></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://twitter.com/toddmbass">http://twitter.com/toddmbass</a></di=
v><div><a =
href=3D"http://toddbass.com/">http://toddbass.com</a></div><div><br></div>=
</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br =
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<br><div><div>On Dec 22, 2012, at 2:12 AM, Ed Durbrow &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp">edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Looks =
&amp; sounds super Todd! I can only guess how much work went into it. =
What a nice testament to your father.<div><br><div><div>On Dec 21, 2012, =
at 7:43 AM, Todd Matthews &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
"><div>Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but =
for all the audio on the album, I only used my double bass. It is called =
"Uh oh, Here Come The Pig Mammoths" and each track off of the album is =
accompanied by text and an illustration. Originally my father was going =
to do the illustration but he passed away unexpectedly last year. It has =
been a rough ride but it feels good to release the album now as a =
dedication to him. He always fully supported my adventures in =
music.</div><div><br></div><div>You can listen to the album @ &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://toddmatthews.bandcamp.com/">toddmatthews.bandcamp.com</a>&n=
bsp;</div><div><br></div><div>If you click on each song individually on =
the bandcamp site you can preview each illustration as =
well.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I hope all you loopers are having a =
wonderful holiday season with family and =
friends!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true">
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normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
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word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; =
"><div>-----------------------------------------------</div><div>Todd =
Matthews</div><div><a =
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</a></div><div><a =
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v><div><a =
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Todd,

Very interesting concept...so I bought the CD/booklet combo and the =
turtle poster - the CD is for me but I have ason who loves turtles and I =
know he'll dig the image.

Digging the music.

Thanks!

Ted
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> Only one tune on the album is actually looping technically, but for =
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> If you click on each song individually on the bandcamp site you can =
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> I hope all you loopers are having a wonderful holiday season with =
family and friends!
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> -----------------------------------------------
> Todd Matthews
> http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
> http://twitter.com/toddmbass
> http://toddbass.com
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> Sir, you are brilliant. LOVE the music here.
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> -Bennett
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Thank you Bennett!!

> i really like your album how much time take it to your album?
> julien

It was my obsession for about two years :)

Todd,

Very interesting concept...so I bought the CD/booklet combo and the =
turtle poster - the CD is for me but I have ason who loves turtles and I =
know he'll dig the image.

Digging the music.

Thanks!

Ted

Thank you for the support Ted!!! I'm taking this to USPS now. Let me =
know when and if it arrives safely.

PS - Your son has good taste. I've always loved Turtles too.
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Todd Matthews
http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
http://twitter.com/toddmbass
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here.</p><p>-Bennett</p></blockquote>Thank you =
Bennett!!<div><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
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Hey everyone, I realized today that I have a constant quandry about 
posting to this community that I'd like to share with you all and get 
some feedback on:

When I want to ask a question or make an aesthetic statement or share an 
artist,  I realize that I am always insecure about whether to repost to
1) Loopers Delight
2)  the Loopers Delight Facebook page
3)  the  LiveLooping.org forum
4) the Live Looping Facebook page
5) the LiveLoopingAsia Facebook page (which I've been spending time on
since it's creation this week)

I worry for 3 reasons

1)  I don't want to bore people or inundate them with multiple postings 
because I know there's a lot of cross track on these sites
2)  I don't want to miss anyone in these communities that may only be 
signed up on one of these locations
3)  I don't want to appear to be favoring one group or another, 
espeically because I have people who I dearly love and wish to support 
on all of them

So,  my question to you all:

Is reposting to all going to be irritating to you or do you think it's 
okay for the sake of ultimate inclusivity in our community?

Rick Walker

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I'm fine with it, it's not the end of the world ;)

That said I generally look to the LD list for deeper discussion (and =
searchable in future), and the FB forum for quick bits, videos, and =
posting my own music for quick feedback/gratification. LL.org is not =
robust enough to worry about, though I do monitor it, and the new Asia =
FB is fun to monitor but I am not in Asia so it's not a primary channel =
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from afar - must get to Singapore someday ;)

Phil :)



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> Hey everyone, I realized today that I have a constant quandry about =
posting to this community that I'd like to share with you all and get =
some feedback on:
>=20
> When I want to ask a question or make an aesthetic statement or share =
an artist,  I realize that I am always insecure about whether to repost =
to
> 1) Loopers Delight
> 2)  the Loopers Delight Facebook page
> 3)  the  LiveLooping.org forum
> 4) the Live Looping Facebook page
> 5) the LiveLoopingAsia Facebook page (which I've been spending time on
> since it's creation this week)
>=20
> I worry for 3 reasons
>=20
> 1)  I don't want to bore people or inundate them with multiple =
postings because I know there's a lot of cross track on these sites
> 2)  I don't want to miss anyone in these communities that may only be =
signed up on one of these locations
> 3)  I don't want to appear to be favoring one group or another, =
espeically because I have people who I dearly love and wish to support =
on all of them
>=20
> So,  my question to you all:
>=20
> Is reposting to all going to be irritating to you or do you think it's =
okay for the sake of ultimate inclusivity in our community?
>=20
> Rick Walker
>=20

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I still have my korg esx and use it all the time. I just think it's so much m=
ore intuitive then software samplers + recording samples is so easy and fast=
! I think I couldn't write songs with only software...=20

Ps. The octatrack looks pretty nice as well:)

Greetings from cologne,
Jannis

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 22.12.2012 um 13:37 schrieb Philip <philip.ojc@gmail.com>:

> I very recently picked up an Octatrack. I noticed that some other members h=
ere use it. It's like a sample, looper, MIDI sequencer, mangler all in one.
>=20
> I haven't had time to sit down with it and try to learn it, but it seems t=
o be getting quite a few good reviews. People seem to either love it or hate=
 it.
>=20
> P
> On Dec 22, 2012, at 5:02 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:
>=20
>> I really enjoy the Traktor remix deck approach to sampling.  Recently I h=
ave taken to running Traktor and Mobius in Live 8.  I loop live with Mobius a=
nd DJ the resulting loops with Traktor Remix decks.  Tres kewl=E2=80=A6  wis=
h I had more time to explore the many workflow possibilities therein.
>>=20
>> BTW, I have a few flagship EMU samplers and the entire EMU sample library=
 in my attic if any one wants the stuff-- ping me.  They are absolutely phen=
omenal sampler/synths and the sound library is world class.  I love the stuf=
f..  but I am never going back to racks full of gear connected with snakes. I=
 am too old for the schlepp and these days, virtual instruments sound absolu=
tely stunning!=20
>>=20
>> Daniel
>>=20
>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Toddbert <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Traktor has an interesting sampler specifically for DJing. There's also t=
he Octatrack. I use them.
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> On 12/21/2012 7:31 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:
>>>>> does anyone (DJs?) still use hardware samplers anymore? or has everyth=
ing gone to computer software?
>>>>> i was just curious.
>>>>> seems like all i ever see anymore in DJ pics is computers w/ a small m=
ixer....but maybe i'm not looking close enough!
>>>> Man, you can buy hardware samplers for a song on e-bay these days.
>>>> No one is using them.
>>>>=20
>>>> strange to me, but what the heck.  I haven't used mine in ages either.
>>>>=20
>>>> A lot of older ones are fantastic machines (especially a lot of the EMU=
s)  but they have
>>>> really archaic ways of getting samples in and out of the unit.
>>>>=20
>>>> Rick
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>=20

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Rick,

Post it freely =85 that's the point of "many-to-many" communication
platforms. If someone has an issue, well, that's what the "Delete" is
for, right?

Go for it!

Best to all from Extreme Fairbanks, Alaska
(http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/most-extreme-places-in-america-185454373.htm=
l)

Dennis

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http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Philip Clevenger
<phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm fine with it, it's not the end of the world ;)
>
> That said I generally look to the LD list for deeper discussion (and sear=
chable in future), and the FB forum for quick bits, videos, and posting my =
own music for quick feedback/gratification. LL.org is not robust enough to =
worry about, though I do monitor it, and the new Asia FB is fun to monitor =
but I am not in Asia so it's not a primary channel for me=85 really it's a =
place to enjoy Randolf Arriola's magical life from afar - must get to Singa=
pore someday ;)
>
> Phil :)
>
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone, I realized today that I have a constant quandry about post=
ing to this community that I'd like to share with you all and get some feed=
back on:
>>
>> When I want to ask a question or make an aesthetic statement or share an=
 artist,  I realize that I am always insecure about whether to repost to
>> 1) Loopers Delight
>> 2)  the Loopers Delight Facebook page
>> 3)  the  LiveLooping.org forum
>> 4) the Live Looping Facebook page
>> 5) the LiveLoopingAsia Facebook page (which I've been spending time on
>> since it's creation this week)
>>
>> I worry for 3 reasons
>>
>> 1)  I don't want to bore people or inundate them with multiple postings =
because I know there's a lot of cross track on these sites
>> 2)  I don't want to miss anyone in these communities that may only be si=
gned up on one of these locations
>> 3)  I don't want to appear to be favoring one group or another, espeical=
ly because I have people who I dearly love and wish to support on all of th=
em
>>
>> So,  my question to you all:
>>
>> Is reposting to all going to be irritating to you or do you think it's o=
kay for the sake of ultimate inclusivity in our community?
>>
>> Rick Walker
>>
>

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<P>FYI (from this thread at TGP: <A href="http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1142384&amp;page=12">http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1142384&amp;page=12</A></P>
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<P>"Hi,<BR>This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products, and here's the low down on our upcoming MIDI sync software release. It'll be called Version 3.0 and supports syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MIDI Start and Stop commands. When recording loops, they will be quantized to the nearest quarter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops, while the Start command plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop command.<BR>It's technically still in beta test, but has proven to be simple to use, reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading instructions. <A href="mailto:mnelson@boomerangmusic.com"><FONT color=#22229c>mnelson@boomerangmusic.com</FONT></A><BR>This software is not a general MIDI implementation, so there is no remote control of loop or Bonus buttons.<BR><BR>Merry ho-ho. "</P>
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I wish I could get the bass player in my band to get an upright, but he
would have to sell a kidney to get one. Once again, great work.

-Bennett

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http://www.bennettwilliams.net
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>wrote:

> Sir, you are brilliant. LOVE the music here.
>
> -Bennett
>
> Thank you Bennett!!
>
> i really like your album how much time take it to your album?
> julien
>
>
> It was my obsession for about two years :)
>
> Todd,
>
> Very interesting concept...so I bought the CD/booklet combo and the turtle
> poster - the CD is for me but I have ason who loves turtles and I know
> he'll dig the image.
>
> Digging the music.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ted
>
> Thank you for the support Ted!!! I'm taking this to USPS now. Let me know
> when and if it arrives safely.
>
> PS - Your son has good taste. I've always loved Turtles too.
> -----------------------------------------------
> Todd Matthews
> http://www.facebook.com/loopbass
> http://twitter.com/toddmbass
> http://toddbass.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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I wish I could get the bass player in my band to get an upright, but he wou=
ld have to sell a kidney to get one. Once again, great work. <br><br>-Benne=
tt<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i><b>Bennett Williams</b></i><br><b><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.bennettwilliams.net" target=3D"_blank">http://www.bennet=
twilliams.net</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://bennettwilliams.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://b=
ennettwilliams.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.soundcloud.com/be=
nnettwilliams" target=3D"_blank">http://www.soundcloud.com/bennettwilliams<=
/a></b><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Todd Matth=
ews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
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<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"im"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><p>Sir, you are brilliant. LOVE the music here.</p><p>-Bennett</p></bl=
ockquote></div>Thank you Bennett!!<div><br></div><div><div class=3D"im"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">i really like your album how much time =
take it to your album?<div>julien</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></=
div>It was my obsession for about two years :)</div><div class=3D"im"><div>
<br></div><div><font color=3D"#0056d6">Todd,<br><br>Very interesting concep=
t...so I bought the CD/booklet combo and the turtle poster - the CD is for =
me but I have ason who loves turtles and I know he&#39;ll dig the image.<br=
>
<br>Digging the music.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Ted</font></div><div><font col=
or=3D"#0056d6"><br></font></div></div><div>Thank you for the support Ted!!!=
 I&#39;m taking this to USPS now. Let me know when and if it arrives safely=
.</div>
<div><br></div><div>PS - Your son has good taste. I&#39;ve always loved Tur=
tles too.</div><div class=3D"im"><div><div>
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t-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:norma=
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tica;word-wrap:break-word;word-spacing:0px">
<div style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;tex=
t-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:norma=
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<div>-----------------------------------------------</div><div>Todd Matthew=
s</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/loopbass" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.facebook.com/loopbass</a></div><div><a href=3D"http://twitter.co=
m/toddmbass" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/toddmbass</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://toddbass.com" target=3D"_blank">http://toddbass.com<=
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</div>
<br><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br =
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=3D"http://www.bennettwilliams.net" target=3D"_blank">http://www.bennettwil=
liams.net</a><br>
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<p>I picked up a Quadraverb a few months ago as I like the reverb. I think the II or the other &#8221;extra&#8221; Q verbs are a little better. At the risk of derision, I have to say the best value in &#39;verbs has got to be the Behringer RV600 reverb machine for $38.00 USD. I believe it is to some degree a clone of the Line6 Verbzilla. Theres one verb there I always use (on guitar).</p>
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                                        <td valign="top" style="font:inherit;"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><br>I like the Alesis Nanoverb - got 2, even.<br><br>One is still in rack form and I had one re-housed as a floor pedal.<br><br><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">the other ted<br><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span></span> <br></div><div>Or would you sing somethin&#39; different. Somethin&#39; real. Somethin&#39; *you* felt. Cause I&#39;m telling you right now,
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 that truly saves people. It ain&#39;t got nothin to do with believin&#39; in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin&#39; in yourself.   Sam Phillips, &quot;Walk the Line&quot;<br></div>  <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stephen Goodman &lt;spgoodman@earthlight.net&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:02:21 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> QuadraVerb GT - Replacement?<br> </font> </div> <br>Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up.&nbsp; What&#39;s a good successor I can get, O Informed Ones?&nbsp; Thanks.<br><br>Stephen Goodman<br><a
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I have a different take on the various flavours, although I too dont care
about multiple postings, but there IS a variation in use between the
Facebook page and the Mailing list (im not on Livelooping.org (well I am
but I dont like forums, cos I have to go and check them specifically))

Facebook lends itself to quoting: Either YouTube links of performances,
Soundclouds or other Facebook posts. Discussions work well, cos the
conversation is threaded, like gmail is, but I dont really think of
Facebook as a permanent media (I cant SAVE a thread, as is, although I
spose I could Screenshot a page, and post to Evernote (my favorite saving
place .. text searchable images.. nice).
The Mailing list is for me what REALLY excels at discussion however, in
combination with threading turned on, (gmail, mac Mail)  I get a single
threaad dedicated to a discussion, that I can save locally if its a
"keeper"(they often are) and with Gmail I can even grab back earier bits of
a conversation I already deleted (before the thread got interesting for
example!)

Personally I only post to the LD Mailing list (but WOULD post to FB if I
was revealing some work to the community, but as I havent recorded
any-looped-thing for 8 years...
There are other FB groups I post to (Ricks Stompbox for example) but of
rlooping, I prefer a "one stop shop".. For me thats LD, and always has been=
.

I think you should assume that we are all subscribed to everything Rick,
which we post on, is more a personal choice, but... if we all posted to all
of them... well THEN we might want to discuss some rules of thumb, but one
or two cross posts, is of course fine!


Mark



On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>wro=
te:

> Rick,
>
> Post it freely =85 that's the point of "many-to-many" communication
> platforms. If someone has an issue, well, that's what the "Delete" is
> for, right?
>
> Go for it!
>
> Best to all from Extreme Fairbanks, Alaska
> (
> http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/most-extreme-places-in-america-185454373.ht=
ml
> )
>
> Dennis
>
> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
> http://audiozoloft.com
> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Philip Clevenger
> <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm fine with it, it's not the end of the world ;)
> >
> > That said I generally look to the LD list for deeper discussion (and
> searchable in future), and the FB forum for quick bits, videos, and posti=
ng
> my own music for quick feedback/gratification. LL.org is not robust enoug=
h
> to worry about, though I do monitor it, and the new Asia FB is fun to
> monitor but I am not in Asia so it's not a primary channel for me=85 real=
ly
> it's a place to enjoy Randolf Arriola's magical life from afar - must get
> to Singapore someday ;)
> >
> > Phil :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey everyone, I realized today that I have a constant quandry about
> posting to this community that I'd like to share with you all and get som=
e
> feedback on:
> >>
> >> When I want to ask a question or make an aesthetic statement or share
> an artist,  I realize that I am always insecure about whether to repost t=
o
> >> 1) Loopers Delight
> >> 2)  the Loopers Delight Facebook page
> >> 3)  the  LiveLooping.org forum
> >> 4) the Live Looping Facebook page
> >> 5) the LiveLoopingAsia Facebook page (which I've been spending time on
> >> since it's creation this week)
> >>
> >> I worry for 3 reasons
> >>
> >> 1)  I don't want to bore people or inundate them with multiple posting=
s
> because I know there's a lot of cross track on these sites
> >> 2)  I don't want to miss anyone in these communities that may only be
> signed up on one of these locations
> >> 3)  I don't want to appear to be favoring one group or another,
> espeically because I have people who I dearly love and wish to support on
> all of them
> >>
> >> So,  my question to you all:
> >>
> >> Is reposting to all going to be irritating to you or do you think it's
> okay for the sake of ultimate inclusivity in our community?
> >>
> >> Rick Walker
> >>
> >
>
>


--=20
*Mark Francombe*
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a different take on the various flavours, although =
I too dont care about multiple postings, but there IS a variation in use be=
tween the Facebook page and the Mailing list (im not on Livelooping.org (we=
ll I am but I dont like forums, cos I have to go and check them specificall=
y))=A0<div>

<br></div><div style>Facebook lends itself to quoting: Either YouTube links=
 of performances, Soundclouds or other Facebook posts. Discussions work wel=
l, cos the conversation is threaded, like gmail is, but I dont really think=
 of Facebook as a permanent media (I cant SAVE a thread, as is, although I =
spose I could Screenshot a page, and post to Evernote (my favorite saving p=
lace .. text searchable images.. nice).=A0</div>

<div style>The=A0Mailing=A0list is for me what REALLY excels at discussion =
however, in combination with threading turned on, (gmail, mac Mail) =A0I ge=
t a single threaad dedicated to a discussion, that I can save locally if it=
s a &quot;keeper&quot;(they often are) and with Gmail I can even grab back =
earier bits of a conversation I already deleted (before the thread got inte=
resting for example!)<br>

<br>Personally I only post to the LD Mailing list (but WOULD post to FB if =
I was revealing some work to the community, but as I havent recorded any-lo=
oped-thing for 8 years...</div><div style>There are other FB groups I post =
to (Ricks Stompbox for example) but of rlooping, I prefer a &quot;one stop =
shop&quot;.. For me thats LD, and always has been.</div>

<div style><br></div><div style>I think you should assume that we are all s=
ubscribed to everything Rick, which we post on, is more a personal choice, =
but... if we all posted to all of them... well THEN we might want to discus=
s some rules of thumb, but one or two cross posts, is of course fine!</div>

<div style><br></div><div style><br></div><div style>Mark</div><div style><=
br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Dennis Moser <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:sinsofmachaut@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sinsofmachaut@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Rick,<br>
<br>
Post it freely =85 that&#39;s the point of &quot;many-to-many&quot; communi=
cation<br>
platforms. If someone has an issue, well, that&#39;s what the &quot;Delete&=
quot; is<br>
for, right?<br>
<br>
Go for it!<br>
<br>
Best to all from Extreme Fairbanks, Alaska<br>
(<a href=3D"http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/most-extreme-places-in-america-18=
5454373.html" target=3D"_blank">http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/most-extreme-=
places-in-america-185454373.html</a>)<br>
<br>
Dennis<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin" target=3D"_blank">http://soundclo=
ud.com/usrsbin</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://audiozoloft.com" target=3D"_blank">http://audiozoloft.com=
</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://usrsla=
shsbin.angrek.com/</a><br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Philip Clevenger<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phil.clevenger@gmail.com">phil.clevenger@gmail.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I&#39;m fine with it, it&#39;s not the end of the world ;)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; That said I generally look to the LD list for deeper discussion (and s=
earchable in future), and the FB forum for quick bits, videos, and posting =
my own music for quick feedback/gratification. LL.org is not robust enough =
to worry about, though I do monitor it, and the new Asia FB is fun to monit=
or but I am not in Asia so it&#39;s not a primary channel for me=85 really =
it&#39;s a place to enjoy Randolf Arriola&#39;s magical life from afar - mu=
st get to Singapore someday ;)<br>


&gt;<br>
&gt; Phil :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Dec 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppo=
ol@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hey everyone, I realized today that I have a constant quandry abou=
t posting to this community that I&#39;d like to share with you all and get=
 some feedback on:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; When I want to ask a question or make an aesthetic statement or sh=
are an artist, =A0I realize that I am always insecure about whether to repo=
st to<br>
&gt;&gt; 1) Loopers Delight<br>
&gt;&gt; 2) =A0the Loopers Delight Facebook page<br>
&gt;&gt; 3) =A0the =A0LiveLooping.org forum<br>
&gt;&gt; 4) the Live Looping Facebook page<br>
&gt;&gt; 5) the LiveLoopingAsia Facebook page (which I&#39;ve been spending=
 time on<br>
&gt;&gt; since it&#39;s creation this week)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I worry for 3 reasons<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; 1) =A0I don&#39;t want to bore people or inundate them with multip=
le postings because I know there&#39;s a lot of cross track on these sites<=
br>
&gt;&gt; 2) =A0I don&#39;t want to miss anyone in these communities that ma=
y only be signed up on one of these locations<br>
&gt;&gt; 3) =A0I don&#39;t want to appear to be favoring one group or anoth=
er, espeically because I have people who I dearly love and wish to support =
on all of them<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; So, =A0my question to you all:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Is reposting to all going to be irritating to you or do you think =
it&#39;s okay for the sake of ultimate inclusivity in our community?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Rick Walker<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
<i style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,255,255);backgroun=
d-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif" siz=
e=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.markfra=
ncombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,0,51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao=
.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,=
51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=
=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)"=
><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@=
N00/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/</a><br><=
/font>
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Yasuz!! I hoop peeple inderstool my spilling, Im a tib disleksick, and if I
write oot fast I often write sdrawkcab!!

yrros

Kram




On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:29 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wro=
te:

> I have a different take on the various flavours, although I too dont care
> about multiple postings, but there IS a variation in use between the
> Facebook page and the Mailing list (im not on Livelooping.org (well I am
> but I dont like forums, cos I have to go and check them specifically))
>
> Facebook lends itself to quoting: Either YouTube links of performances,
> Soundclouds or other Facebook posts. Discussions work well, cos the
> conversation is threaded, like gmail is, but I dont really think of
> Facebook as a permanent media (I cant SAVE a thread, as is, although I
> spose I could Screenshot a page, and post to Evernote (my favorite saving
> place .. text searchable images.. nice).
> The Mailing list is for me what REALLY excels at discussion however, in
> combination with threading turned on, (gmail, mac Mail)  I get a single
> threaad dedicated to a discussion, that I can save locally if its a
> "keeper"(they often are) and with Gmail I can even grab back earier bits =
of
> a conversation I already deleted (before the thread got interesting for
> example!)
>
> Personally I only post to the LD Mailing list (but WOULD post to FB if I
> was revealing some work to the community, but as I havent recorded
> any-looped-thing for 8 years...
> There are other FB groups I post to (Ricks Stompbox for example) but of
> rlooping, I prefer a "one stop shop".. For me thats LD, and always has be=
en.
>
> I think you should assume that we are all subscribed to everything Rick,
> which we post on, is more a personal choice, but... if we all posted to a=
ll
> of them... well THEN we might want to discuss some rules of thumb, but on=
e
> or two cross posts, is of course fine!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>w=
rote:
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> Post it freely =85 that's the point of "many-to-many" communication
>> platforms. If someone has an issue, well, that's what the "Delete" is
>> for, right?
>>
>> Go for it!
>>
>> Best to all from Extreme Fairbanks, Alaska
>> (
>> http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/most-extreme-places-in-america-185454373.h=
tml
>> )
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
>> http://audiozoloft.com
>> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Philip Clevenger
>> <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm fine with it, it's not the end of the world ;)
>> >
>> > That said I generally look to the LD list for deeper discussion (and
>> searchable in future), and the FB forum for quick bits, videos, and post=
ing
>> my own music for quick feedback/gratification. LL.org is not robust enou=
gh
>> to worry about, though I do monitor it, and the new Asia FB is fun to
>> monitor but I am not in Asia so it's not a primary channel for me=85 rea=
lly
>> it's a place to enjoy Randolf Arriola's magical life from afar - must ge=
t
>> to Singapore someday ;)
>> >
>> > Phil :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey everyone, I realized today that I have a constant quandry about
>> posting to this community that I'd like to share with you all and get so=
me
>> feedback on:
>> >>
>> >> When I want to ask a question or make an aesthetic statement or share
>> an artist,  I realize that I am always insecure about whether to repost =
to
>> >> 1) Loopers Delight
>> >> 2)  the Loopers Delight Facebook page
>> >> 3)  the  LiveLooping.org forum
>> >> 4) the Live Looping Facebook page
>> >> 5) the LiveLoopingAsia Facebook page (which I've been spending time o=
n
>> >> since it's creation this week)
>> >>
>> >> I worry for 3 reasons
>> >>
>> >> 1)  I don't want to bore people or inundate them with multiple
>> postings because I know there's a lot of cross track on these sites
>> >> 2)  I don't want to miss anyone in these communities that may only be
>> signed up on one of these locations
>> >> 3)  I don't want to appear to be favoring one group or another,
>> espeically because I have people who I dearly love and wish to support o=
n
>> all of them
>> >>
>> >> So,  my question to you all:
>> >>
>> >> Is reposting to all going to be irritating to you or do you think it'=
s
>> okay for the sake of ultimate inclusivity in our community?
>> >>
>> >> Rick Walker
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Mark Francombe*
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
>



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*Mark Francombe*
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yasuz!! I hoop peeple inderstool my spilling, Im a tib dis=
leksick, and if I write oot fast I often write sdrawkcab!!<div><br></div><d=
iv style>yrros</div><div style><br></div><div style>Kram</div><div style><b=
r>

</div><div style><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:29 AM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@m=
arkfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a different take on =
the various flavours, although I too dont care about multiple postings, but=
 there IS a variation in use between the Facebook page and the Mailing list=
 (im not on Livelooping.org (well I am but I dont like forums, cos I have t=
o go and check them specifically))=A0<div>


<br></div><div>Facebook lends itself to quoting: Either YouTube links of pe=
rformances, Soundclouds or other Facebook posts. Discussions work well, cos=
 the conversation is threaded, like gmail is, but I dont really think of Fa=
cebook as a permanent media (I cant SAVE a thread, as is, although I spose =
I could Screenshot a page, and post to Evernote (my favorite saving place .=
. text searchable images.. nice).=A0</div>


<div>The=A0Mailing=A0list is for me what REALLY excels at discussion howeve=
r, in combination with threading turned on, (gmail, mac Mail) =A0I get a si=
ngle threaad dedicated to a discussion, that I can save locally if its a &q=
uot;keeper&quot;(they often are) and with Gmail I can even grab back earier=
 bits of a conversation I already deleted (before the thread got interestin=
g for example!)<br>


<br>Personally I only post to the LD Mailing list (but WOULD post to FB if =
I was revealing some work to the community, but as I havent recorded any-lo=
oped-thing for 8 years...</div><div>There are other FB groups I post to (Ri=
cks Stompbox for example) but of rlooping, I prefer a &quot;one stop shop&q=
uot;.. For me thats LD, and always has been.</div>


<div><br></div><div>I think you should assume that we are all subscribed to=
 everything Rick, which we post on, is more a personal choice, but... if we=
 all posted to all of them... well THEN we might want to discuss some rules=
 of thumb, but one or two cross posts, is of course fine!</div>


<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Dennis Moser <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:sinsofmachaut@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sinsofmachaut@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Rick,<br>
<br>
Post it freely =85 that&#39;s the point of &quot;many-to-many&quot; communi=
cation<br>
platforms. If someone has an issue, well, that&#39;s what the &quot;Delete&=
quot; is<br>
for, right?<br>
<br>
Go for it!<br>
<br>
Best to all from Extreme Fairbanks, Alaska<br>
(<a href=3D"http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/most-extreme-places-in-america-18=
5454373.html" target=3D"_blank">http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/most-extreme-=
places-in-america-185454373.html</a>)<br>
<br>
Dennis<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin" target=3D"_blank">http://soundclo=
ud.com/usrsbin</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://audiozoloft.com" target=3D"_blank">http://audiozoloft.com=
</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://usrsla=
shsbin.angrek.com/</a><br>
<div><div><br>
<br>
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Philip Clevenger<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phil.clevenger@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">phil.clev=
enger@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I&#39;m fine with it, it&#39;s not the end of the world ;)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; That said I generally look to the LD list for deeper discussion (and s=
earchable in future), and the FB forum for quick bits, videos, and posting =
my own music for quick feedback/gratification. LL.org is not robust enough =
to worry about, though I do monitor it, and the new Asia FB is fun to monit=
or but I am not in Asia so it&#39;s not a primary channel for me=85 really =
it&#39;s a place to enjoy Randolf Arriola&#39;s magical life from afar - mu=
st get to Singapore someday ;)<br>



&gt;<br>
&gt; Phil :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Dec 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppo=
ol@cruzio.com" target=3D"_blank">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hey everyone, I realized today that I have a constant quandry abou=
t posting to this community that I&#39;d like to share with you all and get=
 some feedback on:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; When I want to ask a question or make an aesthetic statement or sh=
are an artist, =A0I realize that I am always insecure about whether to repo=
st to<br>
&gt;&gt; 1) Loopers Delight<br>
&gt;&gt; 2) =A0the Loopers Delight Facebook page<br>
&gt;&gt; 3) =A0the =A0LiveLooping.org forum<br>
&gt;&gt; 4) the Live Looping Facebook page<br>
&gt;&gt; 5) the LiveLoopingAsia Facebook page (which I&#39;ve been spending=
 time on<br>
&gt;&gt; since it&#39;s creation this week)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I worry for 3 reasons<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; 1) =A0I don&#39;t want to bore people or inundate them with multip=
le postings because I know there&#39;s a lot of cross track on these sites<=
br>
&gt;&gt; 2) =A0I don&#39;t want to miss anyone in these communities that ma=
y only be signed up on one of these locations<br>
&gt;&gt; 3) =A0I don&#39;t want to appear to be favoring one group or anoth=
er, espeically because I have people who I dearly love and wish to support =
on all of them<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; So, =A0my question to you all:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Is reposting to all going to be irritating to you or do you think =
it&#39;s okay for the sake of ultimate inclusivity in our community?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Rick Walker<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div><=
/div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><i style=3D"font=
-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,255,255);background-color:rgb(0,0,=
0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark =
Francombe</u></font></i><br>


<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.markfra=
ncombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,0,51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao=
.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,=
51)">


<a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=
=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)"=
><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>


twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@=
N00/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/</a><br><=
/font>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><i style=3D"=
font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,255,255);background-color:rgb(=
0,0,0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>M=
ark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.markfra=
ncombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,0,51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao=
.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,=
51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=
=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)"=
><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,0,51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@=
N00/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/</a><br><=
/font>
</div></div>

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Bennett Williams wrote:
> I wish I could get the bass player in my band to get an upright, but he 
> would have to sell a kidney to get one. Once again, great work.
> 
> -Bennett

point him here:

http://www.deanguitars.com/acoustic_basses.php#eabf



andy

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If flexibility is what you're looking for, maybe consider Digitech TSR-24.
Nothing is fixed. It has two inputs, four outputs, and an effects library.

Pick an input, pick an effect, link, pick next effect, link, split into 
parallel, pick effects, link, and so forth.
You can create feedback loops, complete with effects in 'em.
You can create your own named effects chains, which can be used in presets.
All effects can be reused as many times as desired - until DSP power and 
memory is exhaused, of course.

Reverbs are quite good, though not Lexicon space.
Tracks really well with pitch transposing and harmonizing, even at low freqs 
(I play 8-string guitar).
Harmonizings can feel slightly synthetic (which can actually be quite cool), 
and there's no intelligent pitch transposing.

The 'S' model has dual S/DISH DSP's and memory, can do more, and allows 
ring-out as well as ramping-up a new preset (even with a predelay).
Just notice that you can no longer buy an S/DISH processor module, so go for a 
TSR-24S right away.

One potential negative could be that Digitech has lousy service overseas and 
won't support/repair it, not even answer a support post - but then again, it 
can be found dirt cheap, so just apply the basic rule from public spendings: 
Why build one if you can have two at twice the price ;)



Stephen Goodman wrote:
> I think the main thing I'm looking for is what the QV was very good at: 
> Multiple effects with versatile configurability on them...
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Tony K
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:46 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: QuadraVerb GT - Replacement?
> 
> I have the MPX100 also and like it.  Hard to go wrong with Lexicon reverbs.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> i'm not familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a lexicon
>> mpx100 unit (bill frisell used the same unit, that's why i bought it!)
>> mine unfortunately died about 3 yrs after use (i think bill's is still 
>> going
>> strong!). i was bummed, b/c it was one of the rare gear purchases that i
>> bought NEW!
>> about 3-4 yrs ago i bought a lexicon mx200 for like $90, used (the 
>> original
>> mpx100 was a $199 purchase)...and it is still going strong.
>> i like it. i find that i use about 3 or 4 different reverb options that
>> sound good to me.
>> good luck!!!
>> s---
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> re:
>> Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up. What's a good 
>> successor I
>> can get, O Informed Ones? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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i bought a dean bass on eBay for $100....i love it


Kyle Dean Patten=20
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+

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Bennett Williams wrote:
> I wish I could get the bass player in my band to get an upright, but he w=
ould have to sell a kidney to get one. Once again, great work.
>=20
> -Bennett

point him here:

http://www.deanguitars.com/acoustic_basses.php#eabf



andy


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/i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 2=
55); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: andy butler &lt;akbutl=
er@tiscali.co.uk&gt;<br>Subject: Re: All-Double Bass Album Finished, Uh oh,=
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ate: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 3:40 AM<br><br><div class=3D"plainMail"><br=
><br>Bennett Williams wrote:<br>&gt; I wish I could get the bass player in =
my band to get an upright, but he would have to sell a kidney to get one. O=
nce again, great work.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; -Bennett<br><br>point him here:<br>=
<br><a href=3D"http://www.deanguitars.com/acoustic_basses.php#eabf" target=
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:-)
I paid full price for the fretless model,
...and thought I had a real bargain.



andy

K D Patten wrote:
> /*i bought a dean bass on eBay for $100....i love it*/
> 
> 
> Kyle Dean Patten
> P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131

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philip sez:


it's a place to enjoy Randolf=20
Arriola's magical life from afar - must get to Singapore someday ;)



my thoughts also!.....





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RICKEEEE SEZ:


Is reposting to all going to be irritating to you or do you think it's=20
okay for the sake of ultimate inclusivity in our community?



post away buck-a-roo.....





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Even though I'm deathly afraid of Pig Mammoths, I am enjoying this  
music!
  Congrats Todd.
  Bill

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> Yasuz!! I hoop peeple inderstool my spilling, Im a tib disleksick,  
> and if I write oot fast I often write sdrawkcab!!
>
> yrros
>
> Kram

what he said!!!


you funny man Marky Mark!!!

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Just thought I'd mention I have an Alesis Quadraverb for sale (I was just about to place it on eBay). It is in excellent condition in perfect working order with manual. $80.00. Plus $10 shipping US east coast. $12 west.

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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><p>Just thought I'd mention I have an Alesis Quadraverb for sale (I was just about to place it on eBay). It is in excellent condition in perfect working order with manual. $80.00. Plus $10 shipping US east coast. $12 west.</p>
<p>Regards, Paul<br><br><br></p>
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                            Re: QuadraVerb GT - Replacement?                            <br>
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                                        <td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">If flexibility is what you're looking for, maybe consider Digitech TSR-24.<BR>Nothing is fixed. It has two inputs, four outputs, and an effects library.<BR><BR>Pick an input, pick an effect, link, pick next effect, link, split into parallel, pick effects, link, and so forth.<BR>You can create feedback loops, complete with effects in 'em.<BR>You can create your own named effects chains, which can be used in presets.<BR>All effects can be reused as many times as desired - until DSP power and memory is exhaused, of course.<BR><BR>Reverbs are quite good, though not Lexicon space.<BR>Tracks really well with pitch transposing and harmonizing, even at low freqs (I play 8-string guitar).<BR>Harmonizings can feel slightly synthetic (which can actually be quite cool), and there's no intelligent pitch transposing.<BR><BR>The 'S' model has dual S/DISH DSP's and memory, can do more, and
 allows ring-out as well as ramping-up a new preset (even with a predelay).<BR>Just notice that you can no longer buy an S/DISH processor module, so go for a TSR-24S right away.<BR><BR>One potential negative could be that Digitech has lousy service overseas and won't support/repair it, not even answer a support post - but then again, it can be found dirt cheap, so just apply the basic rule from public spendings: Why build one if you can have two at twice the price ;)<BR><BR><BR><BR>Stephen Goodman wrote:<BR>&gt; I think the main thing I'm looking for is what the QV was very good at: Multiple effects with versatile configurability on them...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Original Message----- From: Tony K<BR>&gt; Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:46 AM<BR>&gt; To: <a ymailto="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href="javascript:return">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><BR>&gt; Subject: Re: QuadraVerb GT - Replacement?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have the
 MPX100 also and like it.&nbsp; Hard to go wrong with Lexicon reverbs.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Scott Hansen &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:evanpeewee@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">evanpeewee@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; i'm not familiar w/ the quadraverb....about 10 yrs ago i bought a lexicon<BR>&gt;&gt; mpx100 unit (bill frisell used the same unit, that's why i bought it!)<BR>&gt;&gt; mine unfortunately died about 3 yrs after use (i think bill's is still going<BR>&gt;&gt; strong!). i was bummed, b/c it was one of the rare gear purchases that i<BR>&gt;&gt; bought NEW!<BR>&gt;&gt; about 3-4 yrs ago i bought a lexicon mx200 for like $90, used (the original<BR>&gt;&gt; mpx100 was a $199 purchase)...and it is still going strong.<BR>&gt;&gt; i like it. i find that i use about 3 or 4 different reverb options that<BR>&gt;&gt; sound good to me.<BR>&gt;&gt; good luck!!!<BR>&gt;&gt; s---<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;
 <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; re:<BR>&gt;&gt; Yep, after 20 years the old QV finally gave it up. What's a good successor I<BR>&gt;&gt; can get, O Informed Ones? Thanks.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR>-- rgds,<BR>van Sinn<BR><BR></td>
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My first set on the Palatia Electronica festival in Lauterbourg =
(France), December 2012. I played guitar, loops, and live sequencers - =
technically nothing new for me but I enjoyed this one quite a bit, =
especially because it was the first time I played my new synth guitar =
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analog technology that is 30 years old but still amazing)
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Nice space jazz vibe in that after-five-thirty part!

Greetings from Sweden

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On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1fZYqAUNLU
>
> My first set on the Palatia Electronica festival in Lauterbourg (France),
> December 2012. I played guitar, loops, and live sequencers - technically
> nothing new for me but I enjoyed this one quite a bit, especially because it
> was the first time I played my new synth guitar (from 5:30) and the guitar
> synth, a Roland GR-300 (a blue box with analog technology that is 30 years
> old but still amazing)
>
>
>
> -Michael

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Lovely. Nothing else (that I'm aware of) sounds like a GR-300 and you =
play it so well.

Mark

On Dec 24, 2012, at 1:02 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Nice space jazz vibe in that after-five-thirty part!
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
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> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
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<p>I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. And to those who don&#39;t I still hope you have a blessed and awesome day!</p>

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Thanks!
Wrote him.
I still have the Boomerang closed in a box=2C never more used after buying =
the octatrack.
I am just curious to give a try to this OS.

Ser

Date: Sat=2C 22 Dec 2012 17:34:08 -0600
From: grantmepeace@mindspring.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)







FYI (from this thread at TGP: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.p=
hp?t=3D1142384&page=3D12
=20
"Hi=2C
This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products=2C and here's the low down on ou=
r upcoming MIDI sync software release. It'll be called Version 3.0 and supp=
orts syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MIDI Start and Stop c=
ommands. When recording loops=2C they will be quantized to the nearest quar=
ter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops=2C while the Start comma=
nd plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop command.
It's technically still in beta test=2C but has proven to be simple to use=
=2C reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading ins=
tructions. mnelson@boomerangmusic.com
This software is not a general MIDI implementation=2C so there is no remote=
 control of loop or Bonus buttons.

Merry ho-ho. "
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howthread.php?t=3D1142384&amp=3Bpage=3D12" target=3D"_blank">http://www.the=
gearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D1142384&amp=3Bpage=3D12</a><BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
"Hi=2C<br>This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products=2C and here's the low =
down on our upcoming MIDI sync software release. It'll be called Version 3.=
0 and supports syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MIDI Start =
and Stop commands. When recording loops=2C they will be quantized to the ne=
arest quarter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops=2C while the S=
tart command plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop command=
.<br>It's technically still in beta test=2C but has proven to be simple to =
use=2C reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading =
instructions. <a href=3D"mailto:mnelson@boomerangmusic.com"><font color=3D"=
#22229c">mnelson@boomerangmusic.com</font></a><br>This software is not a ge=
neral MIDI implementation=2C so there is no remote control of loop or Bonus=
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AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY'LON!

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Tue, 12/25/12, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

From: kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>
Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 6:22 AM

I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. And to those who don't I still hope you have a blessed and awesome day!

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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><br>AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY'LON!<br><br><span style="font-weight:bold;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">Tim Mungenast</span><br><span style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(0, 0, 255);font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">Editor/Writer/Proofreader:</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"></span> <span style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-style:italic;">www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast</span><br style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(0, 0, 255);font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist:</span> <span style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-style:italic;">www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast</span><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 12/25/12, kay'lon rushing <i>&lt;k3zz21@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16,
 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: kay'lon rushing &lt;k3zz21@gmail.com&gt;<br>Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS!<br>To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight" &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<br>Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 6:22 AM<br><br><div id="yiv607464367"><p>I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. And to those who don't I still hope you have a blessed and awesome day!</p>
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And a Merry Christmas to all of you too!  Going to try a broadcast from =
the hotel here tonight.=20

From: Tim Mungenast=20
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!


      AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY'LON!

      Tim Mungenast
      Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
      Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

      --- On Tue, 12/25/12, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:


        From: kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>
        Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
        To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight" =
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
        Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 6:22 AM


        I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. And =
to those who don't I still hope you have a blessed and awesome day!
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Stephen, I trust that you will use at least one Zoom effect during said bro=
adcast? ;-)




--- On Tue, 12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:

From: Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 11:38 AM

=0A=0A=0A=0AAnd a Merry Christmas to all of you too!=A0 Going to try a broa=
dcast =0Afrom the hotel here tonight. =0A=0A=0A=A0=0A=0AFrom: Tim Mungenast=
 =0ASent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:13 AM=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers=
-delight.com =0A=0ASubject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!=0A=A0=0A=0A=0A  =0A  =0A  =
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AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY'LON!

Tim =0A      Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: =0A      www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- =0A      On Tue, 12/25/12, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> =0A      =
wrote:
=0A     =20
From: =0A        kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>
Subject: MERRY =0A        CHRISTMAS!
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight" =0A        <Loopers-Delight@loopers-d=
elight.com>
Date: Tuesday, December =0A        25, 2012, 6:22 AM

=0A        =0A        I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebra=
te it. And to =0A        those who don't I still hope you have a blessed an=
d awesome =0A        day!=0A
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><br>Stephen, I trust that you will use at lea=
st one Zoom effect during said broadcast? ;-)<br><br><br><br><br>--- On <b>=
Tue, 12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <i>&lt;spgoodman@earthlight.net&gt;</i></b> =
wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); mar=
gin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Stephen Goodman &lt;spgoodman@=
earthlight.net&gt;<br>Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!<br>To: Loopers-Delight@=
loopers-delight.com<br>Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 11:38 AM<br><br><d=
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le=3D"FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:12pt;">=0A<div>And a Me=
rry Christmas to all of you too!&nbsp; Going to try a broadcast =0Afrom the=
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=3D"mailto:tmungenast@verizon.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=
=3Dtmungenast@verizon.net">Tim Mungenast</a> </div>=0A<div><b>Sent:</b> Tue=
sday, December 25, 2012 11:13 AM</div>=0A<div><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow=
" title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-D=
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=0A</div>=0A<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!</div></div></div>=0A<=
div>&nbsp;</div></div>=0A<div style=3D"FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline;FON=
T-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DE=
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n style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,255);FO=
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T:bold;"></span> <span style=3D"FONT-STYLE:italic;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, helv=
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T-FAMILY:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:verdan=
a, helvetica, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,255);FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Guitarist/Co=
mposer/Vocalist:</span> =0A      <span style=3D"FONT-STYLE:italic;FONT-FAMI=
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ail.com&gt;</i></b> =0A      wrote:<br>=0A      <blockquote style=3D"BORDER=
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 =0A        kay'lon rushing &lt;k3zz21@gmail.com&gt;<br>Subject: MERRY =0A =
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Hi

today is a day of peace and gratitude!
this time of the year, may people have some spare time to clean up or do =
some special things...

so if you feel any gratitude for this community, people like Kim Flint, =
Michael Peters, Rick Walker, Andy Butler, Per Boysen, Bill Walker, =
Andree LaFosse, David Kirchdorffer, Claude Voit, Gary Hall, Jeff Larson, =
Jessy Chappell, Mike Nelson, Bob Amstadt, Keith McMillen,,,, and all =
those I forgot right now but contributed a bit more than just reading =
and posting questions... but really spent time to explain things, create =
tools, build sites, run servers,,,

... well, even if you do not feel any gratitude, but want your link to =
appear on a site with a 300 (new) visitors/day...

... consider a tiny contribution - no, not money, some information!=20

	whatever text you read and was helpful for you may be so for =
many others
	whatever you experienced and others may experience and need your =
solution
	search for it again, improve it a little, add some newer view, =
maybe, or the previous posts...=20
			=09
		...and give it back to the community!

=95 if its an interesting ongoing discussion, post it on the =
livelooping.org forum, so it will be easily visible and the discussion =
about it can go on forever (on facebook and mailing list we rarely pick =
up older things even if important)

=95 if it is complete as it is, maybe its a page for the =
http://Livelooping.org site ?
so send it to Nick:  nick (at) 1957.me.uk

it can be a gear review, just write about the tool you know well!
it can be looping trick, a way to build and evolve that not everybody =
knows yet
it can be a deeper feeling, a philosophical view of what we do, a hint =
to the purpose of all this
it can be about some important looper, a biography or concert reveiew...
it can be what you think it should be!=

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Yep, the trusty old 2100 is still working.  This will also be an =
experiment in minimal equipment...=20

From: Tim Mungenast=20
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:08 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com ; Stephen Goodman=20
Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!


      Stephen, I trust that you will use at least one Zoom effect during =
said broadcast? ;-)




      --- On Tue, 12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> =
wrote:


        From: Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
        Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
        To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
        Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 11:38 AM


        And a Merry Christmas to all of you too!  Going to try a =
broadcast from the hotel here tonight.=20

        From: Tim Mungenast=20
        Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:13 AM
        To: =
wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
        Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!


              AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY'LON!

              Tim Mungenast
              Editor/Writer/Proofreader: =
www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
              Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: =
www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

              --- On Tue, 12/25/12, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> =
wrote:


                From: kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>
                Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
                To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight" =
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
                Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 6:22 AM


                I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebrate =
it. And to those who don't I still hope you have a blessed and awesome =
day!
            =20
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href=3D"mailto:tmungenast@verizon.net">Tim Mungenast</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope=
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<B>Tue,=20
      12/25/12, Stephen Goodman =
<I>&lt;spgoodman@earthlight.net&gt;</I></B>=20
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MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20
        Stephen Goodman &lt;spgoodman@earthlight.net&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: =
MERRY=20
        CHRISTMAS!<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR>Date: =
Tuesday,=20
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rel=3Dnofollow=20
        target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:tmungenast@verizon.net">Tim =
Mungenast</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:13 AM</DIV>
        <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
        =
href=3D"wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =

        rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank=20
        =
ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">wlmailhtml:/mc/com=
pose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</A>=20
        </DIV>
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KAY'LON!<BR><BR><SPAN=20
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MERRY=20
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Hello,

Please unsub me. Thanks.

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> today is a day of peace and gratitude!
> this time of the year, may people have some spare time to clean up or do =
some special things...
>
> so if you feel any gratitude for this community, people like Kim Flint, M=
ichael Peters, Rick Walker, Andy Butler, Per Boysen, Bill Walker, Andree La=
Fosse, David Kirchdorffer, Claude Voit, Gary Hall, Jeff Larson, Jessy Chapp=
ell, Mike Nelson, Bob Amstadt, Keith McMillen,,,, and all those I forgot ri=
ght now but contributed a bit more than just reading and posting questions.=
.. but really spent time to explain things, create tools, build sites, run =
servers,,,
>
> ... well, even if you do not feel any gratitude, but want your link to ap=
pear on a site with a 300 (new) visitors/day...
>
> ... consider a tiny contribution - no, not money, some information!
>
>         whatever text you read and was helpful for you may be so for many=
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>         whatever you experienced and others may experience and need your =
solution
>         search for it again, improve it a little, add some newer view, ma=
ybe, or the previous posts...
>
>                 ...and give it back to the community!
>
> =95 if its an interesting ongoing discussion, post it on the livelooping.=
org forum, so it will be easily visible and the discussion about it can go =
on forever (on facebook and mailing list we rarely pick up older things eve=
n if important)
>
> =95 if it is complete as it is, maybe its a page for the http://Liveloopi=
ng.org site ?
> so send it to Nick:  nick (at) 1957.me.uk
>
> it can be a gear review, just write about the tool you know well!
> it can be looping trick, a way to build and evolve that not everybody kno=
ws yet
> it can be a deeper feeling, a philosophical view of what we do, a hint to=
 the purpose of all this
> it can be about some important looper, a biography or concert reveiew...
> it can be what you think it should be!



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Regards,

CRC

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From: Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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The 2100 is a damned good piece of kit. I'm sorry that I did not get to hea=
r what you did with it last night.


--- On Tue, 12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:

From: Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 4:55 PM

=0A=0A=0AYep, the trusty old 2100 is still working.=A0 This will also be an=
 =0Aexperiment in minimal equipment... =0A=0A=0A=A0=0A=0AFrom: Tim Mungenas=
t =0ASent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:08 PM=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com =0A; Stephen Goodman =0ASubject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!=0A=A0=
=0A=0A=0A  =0A  =0A   =20
Stephen, I trust that you will use at least one Zoom =0A      effect during=
 said broadcast? ;-)




--- On Tue, =0A      12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> =
=0A      wrote:
=0A     =20
From: =0A        Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
Subject: Re: MERRY =0A        CHRISTMAS!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, =0A        December 25, 2012, 11:38 AM

=0A        =0A        =0A        =0A        =0A        And a Merry Christma=
s to all of you too!=A0 Going to try a =0A        broadcast from the hotel =
here tonight. =0A        =0A        =0A        =A0=0A        =0A        Fro=
m: Tim Mungenast =0A        =0A        Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:=
13 AM=0A        To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-del=
ight.com =0A        =0A        Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!=0A        =A0=
=0A        =0A        =0A          =0A          =0A           =20
AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY'LON!

Tim =0A              Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: =0A              www.reverbnation.com/timmunge=
nast

--- =0A              On Tue, 12/25/12, kay'lon rushing =0A              <k3=
zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A             =20
From: =0A                kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>
Subject: MERRY =0A                CHRISTMAS!
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight" =0A                <Loopers-Delight@l=
oopers-delight.com>
Date: Tuesday, =0A                December 25, 2012, 6:22 AM

=0A                =0A                I just want to say Merry Christmas to=
 all who celebrate it. =0A                And to those who don't I still ho=
pe you have a blessed and =0A                awesome =0A        day!
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><br>The 2100 is a damned good piece of kit. I=
'm sorry that I did not get to hear what you did with it last night.<br><br=
><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;"></span><br>--- On <b>Tue, 12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <i>&lt;spgoodman@ea=
rthlight.net&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px so=
lid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Steph=
en Goodman &lt;spgoodman@earthlight.net&gt;<br>Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS=
!<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Date: Tuesday, December 25,=
 2012, 4:55 PM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv1704668851"><div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div di=
r=3D"ltr">=0A<div style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fon=
t-size: 12pt;">=0A<div>Yep, the trusty old 2100 is still working.&nbsp; Thi=
s will also be an =0Aexperiment in minimal equipment... <img style=3D"borde=
r-style: none;" class=3D"yiv1704668851wlEmoticon yiv1704668851wlEmoticon-sm=
ile" alt=3D"Smile" src=3D"cid:1.1837481344@web84514.mail.ne1.yahoo.com"></d=
iv>=0A<div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: 'Cali=
bri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-deco=
ration: none;">=0A<div style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;">=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A=
<div style=3D"background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(245, 245, 245);">=0A=
<div style=3D""><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"tmungenast@verizo=
n.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:tmungenast@verizon.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
/mc/compose?to=3Dtmungenast@verizon.net">Tim Mungenast</a> </div>=0A<div><b=
>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:08 PM</div>=0A<div><b>To:</b> <a r=
el=3D"nofollow" title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/com=
pose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com</a> =0A; <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"spgoodman@earthlight.net" yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/comp=
ose?to=3Dspgoodman@earthlight.net">Stephen Goodman</a> </div>=0A<div><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!</div></div></div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div></div>=
=0A<div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: 'Calibri=
'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decorat=
ion: none;">=0A<table style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" border=3D"0" cellpaddi=
ng=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0">=0A  <tbody>=0A  <tr>=0A    <td valign=3D"top"><=
br>Stephen, I trust that you will use at least one Zoom =0A      effect dur=
ing said broadcast? ;-)<br><br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, =0A      12/25/12=
, Stephen Goodman <i>&lt;spgoodman@earthlight.net&gt;</i></b> =0A      wrot=
e:<br>=0A      <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255)=
; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"><br>From: =0A        Stephen Goodma=
n &lt;spgoodman@earthlight.net&gt;<br>Subject: Re: MERRY =0A        CHRISTM=
AS!<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Date: Tuesday, =0A       =
 December 25, 2012, 11:38 AM<br><br>=0A        <div id=3D"yiv1704668851">=
=0A        <div dir=3D"ltr">=0A        <div dir=3D"ltr">=0A        <div sty=
le=3D"font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12pt;">=0A   =
     <div>And a Merry Christmas to all of you too!&nbsp; Going to try a =0A=
        broadcast from the hotel here tonight. <img style=3D"border-style: =
none;" class=3D"yiv1704668851wlEmoticon yiv1704668851wlEmoticon-smile" alt=
=3D"Smile" src=3D"cid:2.1837481344@web84514.mail.ne1.yahoo.com"></div>=0A  =
      <div style=3D"font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: 'Cali=
bri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-deco=
ration: none;">=0A        <div style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;">=0A        <div=
>&nbsp;</div>=0A        <div style=3D"background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% =
rgb(245, 245, 245);">=0A        <div><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=
=3D"tmungenast@verizon.net">Tim Mungenast</a> =0A        </div>=0A        <=
div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:13 AM</div>=0A        <div><=
b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"=
>wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a> =0A   =
     </div>=0A        <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!</div></div>=
</div>=0A        <div>&nbsp;</div></div>=0A        <div style=3D"font-style=
: normal; display: inline; font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fon=
t-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;">=0A        <tab=
le style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacin=
g=3D"0">=0A          <tbody>=0A          <tr>=0A            <td valign=3D"t=
op"><br>AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY'LON!<br><br><span style=3D"font-family: verd=
ana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: bold;">Tim =0A              Mungenas=
t</span><br><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; color=
: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-weight: bold;">Editor/Writer/Proofreader:</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight: bold;"></span> <span style=3D"font-style: italic; f=
ont-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;">www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast=
</span><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style=
=3D"font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-=
weight: bold;">Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist:</span> =0A              <span s=
tyle=3D"font-style: italic; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;">www=
.reverbnation.com/timmungenast</span><br><br>--- =0A              On <b>Tue=
, 12/25/12, kay'lon rushing =0A              <i>&lt;k3zz21@gmail.com&gt;</i=
></b> wrote:<br>=0A              <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px soli=
d rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"><br>From: =0A    =
            kay'lon rushing &lt;k3zz21@gmail.com&gt;<br>Subject: MERRY =0A =
               CHRISTMAS!<br>To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight" =0A     =
           &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<br>Date: Tuesday, =
=0A                December 25, 2012, 6:22 AM<br><br>=0A                <di=
v id=3D"yiv1704668851">=0A                <p>I just want to say Merry Chris=
tmas to all who celebrate it. =0A                And to those who don't I s=
till hope you have a blessed and =0A                awesome =0A        day!=
</p></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></=
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Is there a way to search only the posts that you have posted in the L.D. 
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Kay'lon thanks and merry belated one to you as well.  It's a time of year I
personally love and my family and I always enjoy Santa's return :-)  I hope
you had a great Christmas!

Jim

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@verizon.net>wrot=
e:

>
> The 2100 is a damned good piece of kit. I'm sorry that I did not get to
> hear what you did with it last night.
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
> Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 4:55 PM
>
>
>  Yep, the trusty old 2100 is still working.  This will also be an
> experiment in minimal equipment... [image: Smile]
>
>  *From:* Tim Mungenast <http://mc/compose?to=3Dtmungenast@verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:08 PM
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<http://mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-=
Delight@loopers-delight.com>; Stephen
> Goodman <http://mc/compose?to=3Dspgoodman@earthlight.net>
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
>
>
> Stephen, I trust that you will use at least one Zoom effect during said
> broadcast? ;-)
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
> Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 11:38 AM
>
>   And a Merry Christmas to all of you too!  Going to try a broadcast from
> the hotel here tonight. [image: Smile]
>
>  *From:* Tim Mungenast
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:13 AM
> *To:* wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
>
>
> AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY'LON!
>
> Tim Mungenast
> Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
> Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/25/12, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>
> Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co=
m
> >
> Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 6:22 AM
>
>  I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. And to those
> who don't I still hope you have a blessed and awesome day!
>
>


--=20
--=20
*jimgoodin.com* <http://jimgoodin.com> - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance,
color blue, repetitive minimalism'

*The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music*<http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.co=
m> -
'Organically inspired New Music'

*From Brooklyn To Glindran <http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com>*, a
new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds from
this CD will benefit *JDRF International <http://jdrf.org>*

*Tips Across the
Waters<http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-waters/id474128076?mt=
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<div>Kay&#39;lon thanks and merry belated one to you as well.=A0 It&#39;s a=
 time of year I personally love and my family and I always enjoy Santa&#39;=
s return :-)=A0 I hope you had a great Christmas!</div><div>=A0</div><div>J=
im<br>
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Tim M=
ungenast <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tmungenast@verizon.net" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">tmungenast@verizon.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">
<table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td styl=
e=3D"font:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-stretch:inherit" valign=3D"=
top"><br>The 2100 is a damned good piece of kit. I&#39;m sorry that I did n=
ot get to hear what you did with it last night.<div class=3D"im">
<br><br><span style=3D"font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-weight=
:bold"></span><br>--- On <b>Tue, 12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <i>&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net" target=3D"_blank">spgoodman@earthlight=
.net</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-col=
or:rgb(16,16,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid"><div class=
=3D"im"><br>From: Stephen Goodman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthligh=
t.net" target=3D"_blank">spgoodman@earthlight.net</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loop=
ers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><=
br></div>Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 4:55 PM<div><div class=3D"h5"><b=
r>
<br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:12pt">
<div>Yep, the trusty old 2100 is still working.=A0 This will also be an=20
experiment in minimal equipment... <img alt=3D"Smile"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:small;font-style:no=
rmal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline">
<div style=3D"font:10pt/normal tahoma;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:no=
rmal">
<div>=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245)">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"tmungenast@verizon.net" href=3D"http://mc/com=
pose?to=3Dtmungenast@verizon.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Tim Mu=
ngenast</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:08 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href=3D"ht=
tp://mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
; <a title=3D"spgoodman@earthlight.net" href=3D"http://mc/compose?to=3Dspgo=
odman@earthlight.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Stephen Goodman</a=
> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!</div></div></div>
<div>=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:small;font-style:no=
rmal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline">
<table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
  <tbody>
  <tr>
    <td valign=3D"top"><br>Stephen, I trust that you will use at least one =
Zoom=20
      effect during said broadcast? ;-)<br><br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Tue,=
=20
      12/25/12, Stephen Goodman <i>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlig=
ht.net" target=3D"_blank">spgoodman@earthlight.net</a>&gt;</i></b>=20
      wrote:<br>
      <blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-col=
or:rgb(16,16,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid"><br>From:=
=20
        Stephen Goodman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net" tar=
get=3D"_blank">spgoodman@earthlight.net</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: MERRY=20
        CHRISTMAS!<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=
.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>Date: Tu=
esday,=20
        December 25, 2012, 11:38 AM<br><br>
        <div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:12pt">
        <div>And a Merry Christmas to all of you too!=A0 Going to try a=20
        broadcast from the hotel here tonight. <img alt=3D"Smile"></div>
        <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:small;font-=
style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline">
        <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal tahoma;font-size-adjust:none;font-st=
retch:normal">
        <div>=A0</div>
        <div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245)">
        <div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"tmungenast@verizon.net" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow">Tim Mungenast</a>=20
        </div>
        <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:13 AM</div>
        <div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" re=
l=3D"nofollow">wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
com</a>=20
        </div>
        <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!</div></div></div>
        <div>=A0</div></div>
        <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:small;font-=
style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline">
        <table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
          <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td valign=3D"top"><br>AND ALSO WITH YOU, KAY&#39;LON!<br><br><=
span style=3D"font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-weight:bold">Ti=
m=20
              Mungenast</span><br><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255);font-fa=
mily:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-weight:bold">Editor/Writer/Proofread=
er:</span><span style=3D"font-weight:bold"></span> <span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-style:italic"><a href=3D"http://www.li=
nkedin.com/in/timmungenast" target=3D"_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/timmungen=
ast</a></span><br style=3D"font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-weight:bold">Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist:</span>=20
              <span style=3D"font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
style:italic"><a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast" target=
=3D"_blank">www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast</a></span><br><br>---=20
              On <b>Tue, 12/25/12, kay&#39;lon rushing=20
              <i>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>
              <blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-=
left-color:rgb(16,16,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid"><b=
r>From:=20
                kay&#39;lon rushing &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">k3zz21@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: MERRY=20
                CHRISTMAS!<br>To: &quot;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight&quo=
t;=20
                &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>Date: Tues=
day,=20
                December 25, 2012, 6:22 AM<br><br>
                <div>
                <p>I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebrate =
it.=20
                And to those who don&#39;t I still hope you have a blessed =
and=20
                awesome=20
        day!</p></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></=
div></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></=
div></div></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote>
</div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div>-- </div><div><a href=3D"http:/=
/jimgoodin.com" target=3D"_blank"><em>jimgoodin.com</em></a> - &#39;Acousti=
c guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism&#39;</div><div>=A0<=
/div>
<div><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank"><em=
>The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music</em></a>=A0- &#39;Organically inspir=
ed New Music&#39;</div><div>=A0</div><div><em><a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpe=
terthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">From Brooklyn To Glindran</a></em>=
, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Pro=
ceeds from this CD will benefit <em><a href=3D"http://jdrf.org" target=3D"_=
blank">JDRF International</a></em></div>
<div><br><em><a href=3D"http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-wate=
rs/id474128076?mt=3D8" target=3D"_blank">Tips Across the Waters</a></em>, a=
 new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.</div>

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Rick I hope you, Chris, Bill and Nancy and Finnie all had a great
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stmas.=A0 Wishing a great new year to you all.</div><div>=A0</div><div>Jim<=
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did I say something wrong?
do you think we have employees to unsub you?=20
you need to do this yourself, just the way you subed, sending a mail =
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On 26.12.2012, at 02:16, Christopher Clark wrote:

> Hello,
>=20
> Please unsub me. Thanks.
>=20
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>> Hi
>>=20
>> today is a day of peace and gratitude!
>> this time of the year, may people have some spare time to clean up or =
do some special things...
>>=20
>> so if you feel any gratitude for this community, people like Kim =
Flint, Michael Peters, Rick Walker, Andy Butler, Per Boysen, Bill =
Walker, Andree LaFosse, David Kirchdorffer, Claude Voit, Gary Hall, Jeff =
Larson, Jessy Chappell, Mike Nelson, Bob Amstadt, Keith McMillen,,,, and =
all those I forgot right now but contributed a bit more than just =
reading and posting questions... but really spent time to explain =
things, create tools, build sites, run servers,,,
>>=20
>> ... well, even if you do not feel any gratitude, but want your link =
to appear on a site with a 300 (new) visitors/day...
>>=20
>> ... consider a tiny contribution - no, not money, some information!
>>=20
>>        whatever text you read and was helpful for you may be so for =
many others
>>        whatever you experienced and others may experience and need =
your solution
>>        search for it again, improve it a little, add some newer view, =
maybe, or the previous posts...
>>=20
>>                ...and give it back to the community!
>>=20
>> =95 if its an interesting ongoing discussion, post it on the =
livelooping.org forum, so it will be easily visible and the discussion =
about it can go on forever (on facebook and mailing list we rarely pick =
up older things even if important)
>>=20
>> =95 if it is complete as it is, maybe its a page for the =
http://Livelooping.org site ?
>> so send it to Nick:  nick (at) 1957.me.uk
>>=20
>> it can be a gear review, just write about the tool you know well!
>> it can be looping trick, a way to build and evolve that not everybody =
knows yet
>> it can be a deeper feeling, a philosophical view of what we do, a =
hint to the purpose of all this
>> it can be about some important looper, a biography or concert =
reveiew...
>> it can be what you think it should be!
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Regards,
>=20
> CRC
>=20

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Please let me chime in and echo a verry-merry to everyone! May your
loops grow and prosper... as well as shrink and prosper, for that
minimal coolness.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen

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Of course you said nothing wrong, Matthias ;)

Thanks a bunch for all the efforts, to you and all others in here.
Though not a looper per se, I learn a lot about a great many things in here!

/van


Matthias Grob wrote:
> did I say something wrong?
> do you think we have employees to unsub you? 
> you need to do this yourself, just the way you subed, sending a mail (instructions on the loopers-delight.com)
> 
> On 26.12.2012, at 02:16, Christopher Clark wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>Please unsub me. Thanks.
>>
>>On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>today is a day of peace and gratitude!
>>>this time of the year, may people have some spare time to clean up or do some special things...
>>>
>>>so if you feel any gratitude for this community, people like Kim Flint, Michael Peters, Rick Walker, Andy Butler, Per Boysen, Bill Walker, Andree LaFosse, David Kirchdorffer, Claude Voit, Gary Hall, Jeff Larson, Jessy Chappell, Mike Nelson, Bob Amstadt, Keith McMillen,,,, and all those I forgot right now but contributed a bit more than just reading and posting questions... but really spent time to explain things, create tools, build sites, run servers,,,
>>>
>>>... well, even if you do not feel any gratitude, but want your link to appear on a site with a 300 (new) visitors/day...
>>>
>>>... consider a tiny contribution - no, not money, some information!
>>>
>>>       whatever text you read and was helpful for you may be so for many others
>>>       whatever you experienced and others may experience and need your solution
>>>       search for it again, improve it a little, add some newer view, maybe, or the previous posts...
>>>
>>>               ...and give it back to the community!
>>>
>>>â€¢ if its an interesting ongoing discussion, post it on the livelooping.org forum, so it will be easily visible and the discussion about it can go on forever (on facebook and mailing list we rarely pick up older things even if important)
>>>
>>>â€¢ if it is complete as it is, maybe its a page for the http://Livelooping.org site ?
>>>so send it to Nick:  nick (at) 1957.me.uk
>>>
>>>it can be a gear review, just write about the tool you know well!
>>>it can be looping trick, a way to build and evolve that not everybody knows yet
>>>it can be a deeper feeling, a philosophical view of what we do, a hint to the purpose of all this
>>>it can be about some important looper, a biography or concert reveiew...
>>>it can be what you think it should be!
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Regards,
>>
>>CRC
>>
> 
> 
> 


-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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Try to google it starting with something like this

"from: rick walker" site:www.loopers-delight.com

MichaÅ‚

> Is there a way to search only the posts that you have posted in the 
> L.D. Archives?
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> I can't seem to find a way to search in that way.
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> I'm looking for some old posts of mine but not sure how long ago they 
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> thanks for the help if anyone knows the answer to this question.
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> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Everyone.
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> Rick Walker
>
>

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Very well said!  I hope everyone prospers in 2013!
Weg

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On Dec 26, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please let me chime in and echo a verry-merry to everyone! May your
> loops grow and prosper... as well as shrink and prosper, for that
> minimal coolness.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
> 

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I've had to do this before too. Below the search function, can look at each
month sorted by author. If you can spot the email by the title, that's not
a bad way to do it.

Matt

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Is there a way to search only the posts that you have posted in the L.D.
> Archives?
>
> I can't seem to find a way to search in that way.
>
> I'm looking for some old posts of mine but not sure how long ago they were.
>
> thanks for the help if anyone knows the answer to this question.
>
> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Everyone.
>
> Rick Walker
>
>


-- 
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>
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
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t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
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Is there a way to search only the posts that you have posted in the L.D. Ar=
chives?<br>
<br>
I can&#39;t seem to find a way to search in that way.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m looking for some old posts of mine but not sure how long ago they w=
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<br>
thanks for the help if anyone knows the answer to this question.<br>
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<br>
Rick Walker<br>
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Thank you, Happy new year too to all the loopers!Max o' Liver 





I just want to say Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. And to those who don't I still hope you have a blessed and awesome day!





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<blockquote style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Thank you, Happy new year too to all the loopers!</blockquote><blockquote style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Max o' Liver&nbsp;<br><br>
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Are you using the octatrack as a looper?

Steve

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com>wrote:

>  Thanks!
> Wrote him.
> I still have the Boomerang closed in a box, never more used after buying
> the octatrack.
> I am just curious to give a try to this OS.
>
> Ser
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:34:08 -0600
> From: grantmepeace@mindspring.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)
>
>
>  FYI (from this thread at TGP:
> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1142384&page=12
>
> "Hi,
> This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products, and here's the low down on our
> upcoming MIDI sync software release. It'll be called Version 3.0 and
> supports syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MIDI Start and
> Stop commands. When recording loops, they will be quantized to the nearest
> quarter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops, while the Start
> command plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop command.
> It's technically still in beta test, but has proven to be simple to use,
> reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading
> instructions. mnelson@boomerangmusic.com
> This software is not a general MIDI implementation, so there is no remote
> control of loop or Bonus buttons.
>
> Merry ho-ho. "
>
>
> G
>
>

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Are you using the octatrack as a looper?<br><br>Steve<br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Sergio Girardi <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simpliflying@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simplif=
lying@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Thanks!<br>Wrote him.<br>I still have the Boomerang closed in a box, never =
more used after buying the octatrack.<br>I am just curious to give a try to=
 this OS.<br><br>Ser<br><br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:3=
4:08 -0600<br>

From: <a href=3D"mailto:grantmepeace@mindspring.com" target=3D"_blank">gran=
tmepeace@mindspring.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br=
>Subject: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)<div>

<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>




<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;padding-left:5px;margin-=
left:0px">
FYI (from this thread at TGP: <a href=3D"http://www.thegearpage.net/board/s=
howthread.php?t=3D1142384&amp;page=3D12" target=3D"_blank">http://www.thege=
arpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D1142384&amp;page=3D12</a><br>
=C2=A0<br>
&quot;Hi,<br>This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products, and here&#39;s the=
 low down on our upcoming MIDI sync software release. It&#39;ll be called V=
ersion 3.0 and supports syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MI=
DI Start and Stop commands. When recording loops, they will be quantized to=
 the nearest quarter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops, while =
the Start command plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop co=
mmand.<br>

It&#39;s technically still in beta test, but has proven to be simple to use=
, reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading instr=
uctions. <a href=3D"mailto:mnelson@boomerangmusic.com" target=3D"_blank"><f=
ont color=3D"#22229c">mnelson@boomerangmusic.com</font></a><br>

This software is not a general MIDI implementation, so there is no remote c=
ontrol of loop or Bonus buttons.<br><br>Merry ho-ho. &quot;<br>
=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0<br>
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Ehm=2C yeah=2C that was the plan :)
Then I got lost in the busy daily life and had no time to use it properly.
Now I am much more free and I am soldering audio cables and from next week/=
year I plan to put myself with the manual and the octatrack on my side spec=
ifically for the pickup machine (the looper part).
Are you interested in the Octatrack?
Anders use it s a looper and can tell you a lot I think.
I will share what I learn=2C later.

About the Boomerang=2C Mike answered=2C copy paste I suppose=2C a bit scary=
=2C about that if something goes wrong with the update I have to pay everyt=
hing. Well=2C in this specific case=2C being a beta they will not make peop=
le pay repair costs=2C just shipping costs.
Hmmm=2C mumble mumble...

Cheers
Ser

From: sdclements@gmail.com
Date: Thu=2C 27 Dec 2012 07:47:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Are you using the octatrack as a looper?

Steve

On Tue=2C Dec 25=2C 2012 at 8:58 AM=2C Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.c=
om> wrote:






Thanks!
Wrote him.
I still have the Boomerang closed in a box=2C never more used after buying =
the octatrack.
I am just curious to give a try to this OS.

Ser

Date: Sat=2C 22 Dec 2012 17:34:08 -0600


From: grantmepeace@mindspring.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)









FYI (from this thread at TGP: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.p=
hp?t=3D1142384&page=3D12

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This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products=2C and here's the low down on ou=
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ter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops=2C while the Start comma=
nd plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop command.


It's technically still in beta test=2C but has proven to be simple to use=
=2C reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading ins=
tructions. mnelson@boomerangmusic.com


This software is not a general MIDI implementation=2C so there is no remote=
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Merry ho-ho. "

=20

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to this OS.<br><br>Ser<br><br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Sat=2C 22 Dec 2012 =
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I bought the Octatrack with the exact same plans only after the pickup
machine was released.

But I also found an Oberheim/Gibson echoplex and recently updated the ram
and OS.

I'd still like to get the Octatrack working as a looper.

I'd love anyone's tips on it for sure

Steve

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com>wrote:

>  Ehm, yeah, that was the plan :)
> Then I got lost in the busy daily life and had no time to use it properly.
> Now I am much more free and I am soldering audio cables and from next
> week/year I plan to put myself with the manual and the octatrack on my side
> specifically for the pickup machine (the looper part).
> Are you interested in the Octatrack?
> Anders use it s a looper and can tell you a lot I think.
> I will share what I learn, later.
>
> About the Boomerang, Mike answered, copy paste I suppose, a bit scary,
> about that if something goes wrong with the update I have to pay
> everything. Well, in this specific case, being a beta they will not make
> people pay repair costs, just shipping costs.
> Hmmm, mumble mumble...
>
> Cheers
> Ser
>
> ------------------------------
> From: sdclements@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:47:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> Are you using the octatrack as a looper?
>
> Steve
>
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>  Thanks!
> Wrote him.
> I still have the Boomerang closed in a box, never more used after buying
> the octatrack.
> I am just curious to give a try to this OS.
>
> Ser
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:34:08 -0600
> From: grantmepeace@mindspring.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)
>
>
>  FYI (from this thread at TGP:
> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1142384&page=12
>
> "Hi,
> This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products, and here's the low down on our
> upcoming MIDI sync software release. It'll be called Version 3.0 and
> supports syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MIDI Start and
> Stop commands. When recording loops, they will be quantized to the nearest
> quarter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops, while the Start
> command plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop command.
> It's technically still in beta test, but has proven to be simple to use,
> reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading
> instructions. mnelson@boomerangmusic.com
> This software is not a general MIDI implementation, so there is no remote
> control of loop or Bonus buttons.
>
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I bought the Octatrack with the exact same plans only after the pickup mach=
ine was released.<br><br>But I also found an Oberheim/Gibson echoplex and r=
ecently updated the ram and OS.<br><br>I&#39;d still like to get the Octatr=
ack working as a looper.<br>

<br>I&#39;d love anyone&#39;s tips on it for sure<br><br>Steve<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sergio Girardi <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simpliflying@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">simpliflying@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Ehm, yeah, that was the plan :)<br>Then I got lost in the busy daily life a=
nd had no time to use it properly.<br>Now I am much more free and I am sold=
ering audio cables and from next week/year I plan to put myself with the ma=
nual and the octatrack on my side specifically for the pickup machine (the =
looper part).<br>

Are you interested in the Octatrack?<br>Anders use it s a looper and can te=
ll you a lot I think.<br>I will share what I learn, later.<br><br>About the=
 Boomerang, Mike answered, copy paste I suppose, a bit scary, about that if=
 something goes wrong with the update I have to pay everything. Well, in th=
is specific case, being a beta they will not make people pay repair costs, =
just shipping costs.<br>

Hmmm, mumble mumble...<br><br>Cheers<br>Ser<br><br><div><div></div><hr>From=
: <a href=3D"mailto:sdclements@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sdclements@gmai=
l.com</a><br>Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:47:00 -0700<br>Subject: Re: Boomeran=
g III MIDI update (from TGP)<br>

To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>Are=
 you using the octatrack as a looper?<br><br>Steve<br><br><div>On Tue, Dec =
25, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Sergio Girardi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:simpliflying@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simpliflying@gmail.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Thanks!<br>Wrote him.<br>I still have the Boomerang closed in a box, never =
more used after buying the octatrack.<br>I am just curious to give a try to=
 this OS.<br><br>Ser<br><br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:3=
4:08 -0600<br>



From: <a href=3D"mailto:grantmepeace@mindspring.com" target=3D"_blank">gran=
tmepeace@mindspring.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br=
>Subject: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)<div>



<div><br><br>




<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;padding-left:5px;margin-=
left:0px">
FYI (from this thread at TGP: <a href=3D"http://www.thegearpage.net/board/s=
howthread.php?t=3D1142384&amp;page=3D12" target=3D"_blank">http://www.thege=
arpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D1142384&amp;page=3D12</a><br>
=C2=A0<br>
&quot;Hi,<br>This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products, and here&#39;s the=
 low down on our upcoming MIDI sync software release. It&#39;ll be called V=
ersion 3.0 and supports syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MI=
DI Start and Stop commands. When recording loops, they will be quantized to=
 the nearest quarter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops, while =
the Start command plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop co=
mmand.<br>



It&#39;s technically still in beta test, but has proven to be simple to use=
, reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading instr=
uctions. <a href=3D"mailto:mnelson@boomerangmusic.com" target=3D"_blank"><f=
ont color=3D"#22229c">mnelson@boomerangmusic.com</font></a><br>



This software is not a general MIDI implementation, so there is no remote c=
ontrol of loop or Bonus buttons.<br><br>Merry ho-ho. &quot;<br>
=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0<br>
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
It's Analog Overdose month!  Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic
Travels, I'll conclude the the month-long Special Focus on Fanger and
Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Analog Overdose"
on Manikin Records.  The Special Focus page is at:
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

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and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

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Well=2C I may only suggest you to subcribe to Elektron Forums :)
Many people there use the OT as a sampler=2C for sort of djing.
But many can give you tips for looping.
Have you already watched the tutorials in youtube and in Elektron site (whi=
ch I think are on youtube too)?

Cheers
Ser

From: sdclements@gmail.com
Date: Thu=2C 27 Dec 2012 12:58:20 -0700
Subject: Re: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I bought the Octatrack with the exact same plans only after the pickup mach=
ine was released.

But I also found an Oberheim/Gibson echoplex and recently updated the ram a=
nd OS.

I'd still like to get the Octatrack working as a looper.



I'd love anyone's tips on it for sure

Steve

On Thu=2C Dec 27=2C 2012 at 8:48 AM=2C Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.c=
om> wrote:






Ehm=2C yeah=2C that was the plan :)
Then I got lost in the busy daily life and had no time to use it properly.
Now I am much more free and I am soldering audio cables and from next week/=
year I plan to put myself with the manual and the octatrack on my side spec=
ifically for the pickup machine (the looper part).


Are you interested in the Octatrack?
Anders use it s a looper and can tell you a lot I think.
I will share what I learn=2C later.

About the Boomerang=2C Mike answered=2C copy paste I suppose=2C a bit scary=
=2C about that if something goes wrong with the update I have to pay everyt=
hing. Well=2C in this specific case=2C being a beta they will not make peop=
le pay repair costs=2C just shipping costs.


Hmmm=2C mumble mumble...

Cheers
Ser

From: sdclements@gmail.com
Date: Thu=2C 27 Dec 2012 07:47:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)


To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Are you using the octatrack as a looper?

Steve

On Tue=2C Dec 25=2C 2012 at 8:58 AM=2C Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.c=
om> wrote:








Thanks!
Wrote him.
I still have the Boomerang closed in a box=2C never more used after buying =
the octatrack.
I am just curious to give a try to this OS.

Ser

Date: Sat=2C 22 Dec 2012 17:34:08 -0600




From: grantmepeace@mindspring.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)











FYI (from this thread at TGP: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.p=
hp?t=3D1142384&page=3D12

=20

"Hi=2C
This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products=2C and here's the low down on ou=
r upcoming MIDI sync software release. It'll be called Version 3.0 and supp=
orts syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MIDI Start and Stop c=
ommands. When recording loops=2C they will be quantized to the nearest quar=
ter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops=2C while the Start comma=
nd plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop command.




It's technically still in beta test=2C but has proven to be simple to use=
=2C reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading ins=
tructions. mnelson@boomerangmusic.com




This software is not a general MIDI implementation=2C so there is no remote=
 control of loop or Bonus buttons.

Merry ho-ho. "

=20

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ople there use the OT as a sampler=2C for sort of djing.<br>But many can gi=
ve you tips for looping.<br>Have you already watched the tutorials in youtu=
be and in Elektron site (which I think are on youtube too)?<br><br>Cheers<b=
r>Ser<br><br><div><div id=3D"SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id=3D"stopSpell=
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br>Subject: Re: Boomerang III MIDI update (from TGP)<br>To: Loopers-Delight=
@loopers-delight.com<br><br>I bought the Octatrack with the exact same plan=
s only after the pickup machine was released.<br><br>But I also found an Ob=
erheim/Gibson echoplex and recently updated the ram and OS.<br><br>I'd stil=
l like to get the Octatrack working as a looper.<br>

<br>I'd love anyone's tips on it for sure<br><br>Steve<br><br><div class=3D=
"ecxgmail_quote">On Thu=2C Dec 27=2C 2012 at 8:48 AM=2C Sergio Girardi <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:simpliflying@gmail.com">simpliflying@=
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<blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid=3B=
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Ehm=2C yeah=2C that was the plan :)<br>Then I got lost in the busy daily li=
fe and had no time to use it properly.<br>Now I am much more free and I am =
soldering audio cables and from next week/year I plan to put myself with th=
e manual and the octatrack on my side specifically for the pickup machine (=
the looper part).<br>

Are you interested in the Octatrack?<br>Anders use it s a looper and can te=
ll you a lot I think.<br>I will share what I learn=2C later.<br><br>About t=
he Boomerang=2C Mike answered=2C copy paste I suppose=2C a bit scary=2C abo=
ut that if something goes wrong with the update I have to pay everything. W=
ell=2C in this specific case=2C being a beta they will not make people pay =
repair costs=2C just shipping costs.<br>

Hmmm=2C mumble mumble...<br><br>Cheers<br>Ser<br><br><div><div></div><hr>Fr=
om: <a href=3D"mailto:sdclements@gmail.com">sdclements@gmail.com</a><br>Dat=
e: Thu=2C 27 Dec 2012 07:47:00 -0700<br>Subject: Re: Boomerang III MIDI upd=
ate (from TGP)<br>

To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@=
loopers-delight.com</a><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>Are you using the oct=
atrack as a looper?<br><br>Steve<br><br><div>On Tue=2C Dec 25=2C 2012 at 8:=
58 AM=2C Sergio Girardi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:simplifly=
ing@gmail.com">simpliflying@gmail.com</a>&gt=3B</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid=3Bpadding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Thanks!<br>Wrote him.<br>I still have the Boomerang closed in a box=2C neve=
r more used after buying the octatrack.<br>I am just curious to give a try =
to this OS.<br><br>Ser<br><br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Sat=2C 22 Dec 2012 =
17:34:08 -0600<br>



From: <a href=3D"mailto:grantmepeace@mindspring.com">grantmepeace@mindsprin=
g.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loo=
pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>Subject: Boomerang III MIDI update =
(from TGP)<div>



<div><br><br>




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gin-left:0px">
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howthread.php?t=3D1142384&amp=3Bpage=3D12" target=3D"_blank">http://www.the=
gearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D1142384&amp=3Bpage=3D12</a><br>
&nbsp=3B<br>
"Hi=2C<br>This is Mike at Boomerang Musical Products=2C and here's the low =
down on our upcoming MIDI sync software release. It'll be called Version 3.=
0 and supports syncing to an external MIDI clock as well as the MIDI Start =
and Stop commands. When recording loops=2C they will be quantized to the ne=
arest quarter note. The Stop command stops all playing loops=2C while the S=
tart command plays all loops that were playing before the last Stop command=
.<br>



It's technically still in beta test=2C but has proven to be simple to use=
=2C reliable and bug free. Email me if you want a copy with downloading ins=
tructions. <a href=3D"mailto:mnelson@boomerangmusic.com"><font color=3D"#22=
229c">mnelson@boomerangmusic.com</font></a><br>



This software is not a general MIDI implementation=2C so there is no remote=
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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121227.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

Show #821 December 27, 2012.

WDIY Playlist:
http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=12-27-2012

RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Fanger and Schonwalder.
The Featured CD at Midnight was "Analog Overdose" on Manikin Records.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Bryan Carrigan       Ten Times Two        Passing Lights (Peonies)
Mark Jenkins         Ex1t Strategy        EX1GENE (none)
Modulator ESP        Timewave Brainstorm  Doomsday and Brimstone
                        Overload             (Sound for Good)
Max Corbacho         Nests of Tempests    The Ocean Inside (ad21 music)
Fanger & Schonwalder Analog Moods         Analog Overdose (Manikin)
Fanger & Schonwalder emanoN               Analog Overdose (Manikin)
Fanger & Schonwalder Und wir gehen in     Analog Overdose (Manikin)
                        den Club...
                    (And we go into the club)
Fanger & Schonwalder Sentimental Moods    Analog Overdose (Manikin)


12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Fanger & Schonwalder Seilbahn zu den      Analog Overdose (Manikin)
                        Sternen
                    (Aerial ropeway to the asterisks)
Fanger & Schonwalder Echo Gods            Analog Overdose (Manikin)
Fanger & Schonwalder First Contact        Analog Overdose (Manikin)
Fanger & Schonwalder Analog Overdose      Analog Overdose (Manikin)
                        (Live)


1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on
Mystified.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Tribute To Forbidden
Planet"on Roil Noise Records.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#jan

WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-01-03

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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Hello,

Please remove from email list.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
> http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121227.html
>
> Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
> airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
> PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
> and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
> in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.
>
> Show #821 December 27, 2012.
>
> WDIY Playlist:
> http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=12-27-2012
>
> RECAP:
> On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Fanger and Schonwalder.
> The Featured CD at Midnight was "Analog Overdose" on Manikin Records.
> http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec
>
> PLAYLIST:
>
> 11:04 pm
> ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
> ==================== ==================== ==============================
> Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
> Bryan Carrigan       Ten Times Two        Passing Lights (Peonies)
> Mark Jenkins         Ex1t Strategy        EX1GENE (none)
> Modulator ESP        Timewave Brainstorm  Doomsday and Brimstone
>                        Overload             (Sound for Good)
> Max Corbacho         Nests of Tempests    The Ocean Inside (ad21 music)
> Fanger & Schonwalder Analog Moods         Analog Overdose (Manikin)
> Fanger & Schonwalder emanoN               Analog Overdose (Manikin)
> Fanger & Schonwalder Und wir gehen in     Analog Overdose (Manikin)
>                        den Club...
>                    (And we go into the club)
> Fanger & Schonwalder Sentimental Moods    Analog Overdose (Manikin)
>
>
> 12:00 am
> ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
> ==================== ==================== ==============================
> Fanger & Schonwalder Seilbahn zu den      Analog Overdose (Manikin)
>                        Sternen
>                    (Aerial ropeway to the asterisks)
> Fanger & Schonwalder Echo Gods            Analog Overdose (Manikin)
> Fanger & Schonwalder First Contact        Analog Overdose (Manikin)
> Fanger & Schonwalder Analog Overdose      Analog Overdose (Manikin)
>                        (Live)
>
>
> 1:00 am
>
>  * = excerpt
> VA = Various Artists (compilation)
> ++ = Advance CDR from Artist
> -- = Background music under interview
>
>
> NEXT SHOW:
> On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on
> Mystified.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Tribute To Forbidden
> Planet"on Roil Noise Records.
> http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#jan
>
> WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-01-03
>
> Bill
> ========================================================================
> Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
> Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
> Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
> Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
> on 88.1 FM.
> Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
> Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.
>



-- 
Regards,

CRC

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I bought a second Boss SE-70 a while ago because it is such a versatile =
effect box (the sounds on my Escape Veloopity album were made with an =
SE-70 in the mid-90s).  I would love to copy all the presets that I =
created on my first SE-70 to the new one. Any idea how this could be =
done?  (I tried a Windows software called "Soundquest Midiquest" which =
should recognize the box and download the presets to the computer but it =
does not work for some reason - it doesn't recognize an SE-70 that is =
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the mid-90s).<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 </span>I would love =
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some kind of sysex dump/load. you'd have to look in the manual to see =
how this is achieved and download a sysex librarian to run on your pc

On 28 Dec 2012, at 19:44, Michael Peters wrote:

> I bought a second Boss SE-70 a while ago because it is such a =
versatile effect box (the sounds on my Escape Veloopity album were made =
with an SE-70 in the mid-90s).  I would love to copy all the presets =
that I created on my first SE-70 to the new one. Any idea how this could =
be done?  (I tried a Windows software called "SoundquestMidiquest" which =
should recognize the box and download the presets to the computer but it =
does not work for some reason - it doesn't recognize an SE-70 that is =
plugged into the computer.)
> =20
> -Michael
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"><div>some kind of sysex dump/load. you'd have to look in the manual to =
see how this is achieved and download a sysex librarian to run on your =
pc</div><br><div><div>On 28 Dec 2012, at 19:44, Michael Peters =
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11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US">I bought =
a second Boss SE-70 a while ago because it is such a versatile effect =
box (the sounds on my Escape<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span =
class=3D"SpellE">Veloopity</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>album were made with an =
SE-70 in the mid-90s).<span>&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span>I would love to copy =
all the presets that I created on my first SE-70 to the new one. Any =
idea how this could be done?<span>&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span>(I tried a Windows =
software called "<span class=3D"SpellE">Soundquest</span><span =
class=3D"SpellE">Midiquest</span>" which should recognize the box and =
download the presets to the computer but it does not work for some =
reason - it doesn't recognize an SE-70 that is plugged into the =
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THOUGHT RADIO:                       http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
=======================================================================
My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show,
will be Saturday, December 29 at 6 am EST/GMT-5.  In Phase One, I will
continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler
CDs.

I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show
features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an
eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive
Rock.

Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at
http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html

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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121229.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html

                 Show #240                December 29, 2012.

Featured on this program is Tom Brislin who will play at the NJ
Proghouse today at 2 pm.
EVENTS LISTING:
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/resources/local.html#EVENTS

Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Paul Nagle           Changa               Single on Bandcamp
VA [Dogmatic]        Dogmatic             Sequences No. 22
VA [Kelvin Smith]    The Last Sun         Sequences No. 22
Genetique            Part 1               SCS 19 (Fox's Den)


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Timothy Crane        Soli Deo Gloria      Pianoforte (none)
Ciro Hurtado         Reflection           Los Angeles Blues (Inti
                                             Productions)
Pas del Castillo     Cafe Espana          Eleven Drops (Neuronium)
Project Trio         Donna Lee            When Will Then Be Now (none)


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Tiles                Checkerboards        Off the Floor (Standing
                                             Pavement Recordings)
Tom Brislin          Hurry Up and Smell   Hurry Up and Smell the Roses
                        the Roses            (none)
Tom Brislin          Your Favorite Day    Hurry Up and Smell the Roses
                                             (none)
Tom Brislin          When You Told Me     Hurry Up and Smell the Roses
                        Not To Go            (none)
Hasse Froberg and    Is It Ever Gonna     Powerplay (Reingold)
   Musical Companion    Happen
Alan Morse           Cold Fusion *        Four O'clock and Hysteria
                                             (InsideOut)

  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill Fox
========================================================================
Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5.
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html

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Hello - please remove from mailing list.

Thanks and Happy New Year.



On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
> http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121229.html
>
> The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
> at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
> electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
> of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on
> WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
> every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
> http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html
>
>                 Show #240                December 29, 2012.
>
> Featured on this program is Tom Brislin who will play at the NJ
> Proghouse today at 2 pm.
> EVENTS LISTING:
> http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/resources/local.html#EVENTS
>
> Phase I/Space:
>
> ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
> ==================== ==================== ==============================
> Paul Nagle           Changa               Single on Bandcamp
> VA [Dogmatic]        Dogmatic             Sequences No. 22
> VA [Kelvin Smith]    The Last Sun         Sequences No. 22
> Genetique            Part 1               SCS 19 (Fox's Den)
>
>
> Phase II/Eclectic:
>
> ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
> ==================== ==================== ==============================
> Timothy Crane        Soli Deo Gloria      Pianoforte (none)
> Ciro Hurtado         Reflection           Los Angeles Blues (Inti
>                                             Productions)
> Pas del Castillo     Cafe Espana          Eleven Drops (Neuronium)
> Project Trio         Donna Lee            When Will Then Be Now (none)
>
>
> Phase III/Progressive Rock:
>
> ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
> ==================== ==================== ==============================
> Tiles                Checkerboards        Off the Floor (Standing
>                                             Pavement Recordings)
> Tom Brislin          Hurry Up and Smell   Hurry Up and Smell the Roses
>                        the Roses            (none)
> Tom Brislin          Your Favorite Day    Hurry Up and Smell the Roses
>                                             (none)
> Tom Brislin          When You Told Me     Hurry Up and Smell the Roses
>                        Not To Go            (none)
> Hasse Froberg and    Is It Ever Gonna     Powerplay (Reingold)
>   Musical Companion    Happen
> Alan Morse           Cold Fusion *        Four O'clock and Hysteria
>                                             (InsideOut)
>
>  * = excerpt
> ++ = Advanced CDR from artist
> VA = Various Artists (compilation)
>
> On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
> come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.
>
> Bill Fox
> ========================================================================
> Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
> other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5.
> Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
> Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
> Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
> Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
> Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
> http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html
>



-- 
Regards,

CRC

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>
>
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>Regards,
>
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Welcome aboard!


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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 1:21 PM PST julien gury wrote:

>hi i'm julien from france i'm 29 years old i read you about a few week but i decided now to communicate with you
>i works with renoise and ken axis(a little) i make idm and dronish music i don'know what to say for present me
>
>
>my music:
>https://soundcloud.com/trepanation
>http://drum-memory.bandcamp.com

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You should be able to transmit a midi dump & record it as a midi track 
in cubase or some such sequencer. Then connect the other SE70 to your 
midi out & play the track back.
Make sure sysex isn't ticked in the midi filter on the sequencer package 
though. Works for my Sony GP5, which is very similar to the SE70.
Dave

On 28/12/2012 19:44, Michael Peters wrote:
> I bought a second Boss SE-70 a while ago because it is such a versatile
> effect box (the sounds on my Escape Veloopity album were made with an
> SE-70 in the mid-90s).I would love to copy all the presets that I
> created on my first SE-70 to the new one. Any idea how this could be
> done?(I tried a Windows software called "Soundquest Midiquest" which
> should recognize the box and download the presets to the computer but it
> does not work for some reason - it doesn't recognize an SE-70 that is
> plugged into the computer.)
>
> -Michael
>

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<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: rgb(0, 0, 0); FONT-SIZE: 12px"><di=
v>Did you try connecting the two SE-70s together via MIDI cable and bulk du=
mp one to the other? <br /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div sty=
le=3D"border-top:1px solid #bcbcbc;margin:5px 0px;"></div><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12;font-family:arial;color:#000000;">On 12/28/12, <span>Michael Pet=
ers&lt;mp@mpeters.de&gt;</span> wrote:</span><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D=
"font-size:12;font-family:arial;color:#000000;"><div class=3D"WordSection1"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-=
US">I bought a second Boss SE-70 a while ago because it is such a versatile=
 effect box (the sounds on my Escape <span class=3D"SpellE">Veloopity</span=
> album were made with an SE-70 in the mid-90s).<span style=3D"mso-spacerun=
:yes">&nbsp; </span>I would love to copy all the presets that I created on =
my first SE-70 to the new one. Any idea how this could be done?<span style=
=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>(I tried a Windows software called &quo=
t;<span class=3D"SpellE">Soundquest</span> <span class=3D"SpellE">Midiquest=
</span>&quot; which should recognize the box and download the presets to th=
e computer but it does not work for some reason - it doesn't recognize an S=
E-70 that is plugged into the computer.)</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-US">-=
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"mso-ansi-language:EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p></div></div></div>

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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:26 PM, <rdwfour@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> SE-70


Don't know about your specific issue, but Liam Howlett once said:
"You can never have enough SE-70's'... "

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen

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http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/top20-12dec.html

WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for December, 2012.
Shows #818 to #821; 6-December-2012 to 27-December-2012
Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order.
Compiled by Bill Fox

The Special Focus for December was Fanger and Schonwalder.
http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#dec

ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
========================================================================
Aejotz - Aejotz - none
Andy Pickford - Jern - none
Booth and Creek - Lightwaves - none
Chuck van Zyl - Cenotaph - Synkronos
Divine Matrix - Atmospheric Variations - A.D. Music
Fanger & Schonwalder - Analog Overdose - Manikin
Fanger & Schonwalder - Analog Overdose 3 - Manikin
Fanger & Schonwalder - Analog Overdose 4 - Manikin
Fanger & Schonwalder - Analog Overdose 4+ - Manikin
Mark Jenkins - EX1GENE - none
Mark Mosher - No Ghosts, Just Fear - none
Max Corbacho - The Ocean Inside - ad21 music
Modulator ESP - Doomsday and Brimstone - Sound for Good
Parallel Worlds and Dave Bessell - Morphogenic - DiN
Premonition Factory - The Theory of Nothing - none
Radio Free Clear Light - The Labyrinth of Ohgel - Black Note Music
Robert Schroeder - Ferro OXID - Spheric
Sonogram - Apparent Microdots - Simulacra
Vic Hennegan - Nebula Waves - Alien Tribes
['ramp] - Astral Disaster - Doombient

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.

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Hi folks

I've focused more on reading/writing/transcribing music lately.
I was wondering: are there any commmon, modern music notation symbols for notating loops?

Sure, you can always use the normal repeat bars and repetition symbols. But especially for contemporary popular music, it would be neat to define i.e. some loope patterns (possibly different lengths) for various instruments, then reuse them in a score and notate the lead voice over it.

Basically, it's how a lot of people write songs in a DAW - but as sheet music notation.

Any suggestions?

best regards
Buzap

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I find Bill's email to be no problem - it's a handy fyi that some on LD hav=
e found useful.=0A=0A=0A=0Athe other ted=0A=0A=A0=0AOr would you sing somet=
hin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you=
 right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of=
 song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in =
God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself.   Sam Phillips, "Wa=
lk the Line"=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Tyler <progr=
ammer651@comcast.net>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Sa=
turday, December 29, 2012 1:58:46 PM=0ASubject: Re: Thought Radio Playlist =
for December 29, 2012.=0A =0AYes. You post to a lot of mailing lists; pleas=
e don't post to Looper's Delight.=0ATyler Z=0AOn Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:16:41 =
-0800, Christopher Clark wrote:=0A=0A=0A>Hello - please remove from mailing=
 list.=0A>=0A>Thanks and Happy New Year.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On Sat, Dec 29, 201=
2 at 7:11 AM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:=0A>>http://soundsca=
pes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121229.html=0A>>=0A>>The Saturday editio=
n of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.=A0 When I am=0A>>at the helm, th=
e show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear=0A>>electronic, a=
mbient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix=0A>>of other genr=
es.=A0 The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on=0A>>WMUH Allentow=
n, 91.7 FM and on the internet.=A0 I also host Afterglow=0A>>every Thursday=
 from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.=0A>>http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html=0A=
>>=0A>>Show #240=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 December 29, 2012.=0A>>=0A>=
>Featured on this program is Tom Brislin who will play at the NJ=0A>>Progho=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=0A>>Timothy Crane=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Soli Deo Gloria=A0 =A0 =A0 Pianoforte =
(none)=0A>>Ciro Hurtado=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0  Reflection=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0  Los =
Angeles Blues (Inti=0A>>Productions)=0A>>Pas del Castillo=A0 =A0  Cafe Espa=
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>=0A>>Phase III/Progressive Rock:=0A>>=0A>>ARTIST=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A>>Tiles=A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Checkerboards=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Off the Floor (Standing=0A=
>>Pavement Recordings)=0A>>Tom Brislin=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Hurry Up and Smel=
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d Smell the Roses=0A>>(none)=0A>>Tom Brislin=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 When You To=
ld Me=A0 =A0  Hurry Up and Smell the Roses=0A>>Not To Go=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
 =A0 (none)=0A>>Hasse Froberg and=A0 =A0 Is It Ever Gonna=A0 =A0  Powerplay=
 (Reingold)=0A>>Musical Companion=A0 =A0 Happen=0A>>Alan Morse=A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0  Cold Fusion *=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Four O'clock and Hysteria=0A>>(Inside=
Out)=0A>>=0A>>* =3D excerpt=0A>>++ =3D Advanced CDR from artist=0A>>VA =3D =
Various Artists (compilation)=0A>>=0A>>On the next show, I will continue th=
e special on the sampler CDRs that=0A>>come with each issue of Sequences el=
ectronic music magazine.=0A>>=0A>>Bill Fox=0A>>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A>>Host of Thought Radio, the Satu=
rday edition of The AM/FM Show every=0A>>other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-=
5.=0A>>Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.=0A>>Phase 2: Mixed ba=
g of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.=0A>>Phase 3: Progressive rock fro=
m past masters to contemporary releases.=0A>>Website - http://soundscapes.u=
s/thoughtradio=0A>>Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line a=
t=0A>>http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>-- =0A=
>Regards,=0A>=0A>CRC
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">I find Bill's email t=
o be no problem - it's a handy fyi that some on LD have found useful.<br><s=
pan></span><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family:=
 times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-=
style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16p=
x; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: tra=
nsparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,=
serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>the other =
ted<br></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Or would you sing somethin' diffe=
rent. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now=
, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that
 truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. C=
ash. It has to do with believin' in yourself.   Sam Phillips, "Walk the Lin=
e"<br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, =
serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new y=
ork, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</=
span></b> Tyler &lt;programmer651@comcast.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <br> <b=
><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 29,=
 2012 1:58:46 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span><=
/b> Re: Thought Radio Playlist for December 29, 2012.<br> </font> </div> <b=
r>Yes. You post to a lot of mailing lists; please don't post to Looper's De=
light.<br>Tyler Z<br>On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:16:41 -0800, Christopher Clark
 wrote:<br><br><br>&gt;Hello - please remove from mailing list.<br>&gt;<br>=
&gt;Thanks and Happy New Year.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;On Sat, Dec 2=
9, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Bill Fox &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:billyfox@soundscapes.=
us" href=3D"mailto:billyfox@soundscapes.us">billyfox@soundscapes.us</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<a href=3D"http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/=
2012/121229.html" target=3D"_blank">http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/play=
lists/2012/121229.html</a><br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;The Saturday edition of T=
he AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.&nbsp; When I am<br>&gt;&gt;at the helm=
, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear<br>&gt;&gt;el=
ectronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix<br>&gt=
;&gt;of other genres.&nbsp; The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5=
 on<br>&gt;&gt;WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.&nbsp; I also ho=
st Afterglow<br>&gt;&gt;every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30
 am.<br>&gt;&gt;<a href=3D"http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html</a><br>&gt;&gt;<br=
>&gt;&gt;Show #240&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; D=
ecember 29, 2012.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;Featured on this program is Tom Br=
islin who will play at the NJ<br>&gt;&gt;Proghouse today at 2 pm.<br>&gt;&g=
t;EVENTS LISTING:<br>&gt;&gt;<a href=3D"http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/res=
ources/local.html#EVENTS" target=3D"_blank">http://soundscapes.us/afterglow=
/resources/local.html#EVENTS</a><br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;Phase I/Space:<br>&=
gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;ARTIST&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  =
TRACK&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ALBUM (label)<=
br>&gt;&gt;=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
<br>&gt;&gt;Paul Nagle&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Changa&nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Single on
 Bandcamp<br>&gt;&gt;VA [Dogmatic]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dogmatic&nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Sequences No. 22<br>&gt;&gt;VA [Kelvi=
n Smith]&nbsp; &nbsp; The Last Sun&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Sequences No=
. 22<br>&gt;&gt;Genetique&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Part 1&n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  SCS 19 (Fox's Den)<br>&gt;&=
gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;Phase II/Eclectic:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;ARTIST=
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  TRACK&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ALBUM (label)<br>&gt;&gt;=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>&gt;&gt;Timothy C=
rane&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Soli Deo Gloria&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pianofo=
rte (none)<br>&gt;&gt;Ciro Hurtado&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Reflection&n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Los Angeles Blues (Inti<br>&gt;&gt;Produc=
tions)<br>&gt;&gt;Pas del Castillo&nbsp; &nbsp;  Cafe
 Espana&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Eleven Drops (Neuronium)<br>&gt;&=
gt;Project Trio&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Donna Lee&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; When Will Then Be Now (none)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br=
>&gt;&gt;Phase III/Progressive Rock:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;ARTIST&nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  TRACK&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ALBUM (label)<br>&gt;&gt;=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>&gt;&gt;Tiles&nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Checkerboards&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; Off the Floor (Standing<br>&gt;&gt;Pavement Recordings)<br>&gt;&gt=
;Tom Brislin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Hurry Up and Smell&nbsp;  Hu=
rry Up and Smell the Roses<br>&gt;&gt;the Roses&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; (none)<br>&gt;&gt;Tom Brislin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; Your Favorite Day&nbsp; &nbsp; Hurry Up and Smell the
 Roses<br>&gt;&gt;(none)<br>&gt;&gt;Tom Brislin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; When You Told Me&nbsp; &nbsp;  Hurry Up and Smell the Roses<br>&gt;&=
gt;Not To Go&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (none)<br>&gt;&gt;Has=
se Froberg and&nbsp; &nbsp; Is It Ever Gonna&nbsp; &nbsp;  Powerplay (Reing=
old)<br>&gt;&gt;Musical Companion&nbsp; &nbsp; Happen<br>&gt;&gt;Alan Morse=
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Cold Fusion *&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; Four O'clock and Hysteria<br>&gt;&gt;(InsideOut)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;*=
 =3D excerpt<br>&gt;&gt;++ =3D Advanced CDR from artist<br>&gt;&gt;VA =3D V=
arious Artists (compilation)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;On the next show, I wil=
l continue the special on the sampler CDRs that<br>&gt;&gt;come with each i=
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Well, after figuring out how to use Live to do some of what I want to
accomplish (thanks m=F6bius too), I've realized I can complicate and expand
my rig even further.

So, with that in mind, anyone have any soft synths they find especially fun
to play via guitar synth?  I seem to recall Absynth being a good
possibility but I thought I'd appeal to the freaky genius living here to
get some ideas.

Thanks and full sails to 2013.

Kevin


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o the freaky genius living here to get some ideas.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks and full sails to 2013. =A0</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Kevin=A0<span></span></div><br><br>-- <br>Till now you seriously consi=
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orance which is the root cause of all trouble.<br>
<br>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br><br><br>

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Crystal by Green Oak is one of my favs.

http://www.greenoak.com/crystal/Crystal/Crystal.html

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, after figuring out how to use Live to do some of what I want to
> accomplish (thanks m=F6bius too), I've realized I can complicate and expa=
nd my
> rig even further.
>
> So, with that in mind, anyone have any soft synths they find especially f=
un
> to play via guitar synth?  I seem to recall Absynth being a good possibil=
ity
> but I thought I'd appeal to the freaky genius living here to get some ide=
as.
>
> Thanks and full sails to 2013.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble=
.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
>



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I use Reaktor 5 and there are tons of free, and really awesome synth 
ensembles on the user group.
Abasynth is really cool, but I lost it when I converted to Mac and can't 
justify buying it...I really like it though.  :-(
reFX NEXUS. I lost this one too. F*ck!!!!


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Crystal by Green Oak is one of my favs.

http://www.greenoak.com/crystal/Crystal/Crystal.html

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> Well, after figuring out how to use Live to do some of what I want to
> accomplish (thanks möbius too), I've realized I can complicate and expand 
> my
> rig even further.
>
> So, with that in mind, anyone have any soft synths they find especially 
> fun
> to play via guitar synth?  I seem to recall Absynth being a good 
> possibility
> but I thought I'd appeal to the freaky genius living here to get some 
> ideas.
>
> Thanks and full sails to 2013.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
>



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On 12/30/2012 1:06 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> I've focused more on reading/writing/transcribing music lately.
> I was wondering: are there any commmon, modern music notation symbols for notating loops?
>
> Sure, you can always use the normal repeat bars and repetition symbols. But especially for contemporary popular music, it would be neat to define i.e. some loope patterns (possibly different lengths) for various instruments, then reuse them in a score and notate the lead voice over it.
>
> Basically, it's how a lot of people write songs in a DAW - but as sheet music notation.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> best regards
> Buzap

*If I read you correctly,  then you might have notation for different 
loops that had different loop lengths which could be represented as in a 
typical orchestral score
with each different stave representing a single loop over which you 
could notate a melody.

It might be more accurate however, just to write out the individual 
loops content and cut and paste it into subsequent measures all the way 
out through the end of the piece
with , again,  an entire stave per 'loop' and the melody written out in 
real time notation over the top of it.

Musically,  this might be a better approach because as the loops below 
it interact, polymetrically or poly rhythmicall (as the case may be),  
the lead melody
line will be able to be compared with what is actually happening at the 
given point in the composition.    Where the loops intersect, even if 
you are only
composing diatonically,  will reharmonize the melody depending on where 
they intersect.     As a matter of fact, this is kind of a cool approach 
to take, viz a vis
something like "In a Silent Way"   or "Bitches Brew" from Miles Davis.

/R.
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/30/2012 1:06 PM, Buzap Buzap
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      <pre wrap="">Hi folks

I've focused more on reading/writing/transcribing music lately.
I was wondering: are there any commmon, modern music notation symbols for notating loops?

Sure, you can always use the normal repeat bars and repetition symbols. But especially for contemporary popular music, it would be neat to define i.e. some loope patterns (possibly different lengths) for various instruments, then reuse them in a score and notate the lead voice over it.

Basically, it's how a lot of people write songs in a DAW - but as sheet music notation.

Any suggestions?

best regards
Buzap</pre>
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    <br>
    <b>If I read you correctly,&nbsp; then you might have notation for
      different loops that had different loop lengths which could be
      represented as in a typical orchestral score <br>
      with each different stave representing a single loop over which
      you could notate a melody.<br>
      <br>
      It might be more accurate however, just to write out the
      individual loops content and cut and paste it into subsequent
      measures all the way out through the end of the piece <br>
      with , again,&nbsp; an entire stave per 'loop' and the melody written
      out in real time notation over the top of it.<br>
      <br>
      Musically,&nbsp; this might be a better approach because as the loops
      below it interact, polymetrically or poly rhythmicall (as the case
      may be),&nbsp; the lead melody <br>
      line will be able to be compared with what is actually happening
      at the given point in the composition.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Where the loops
      intersect, even if you are only <br>
      composing diatonically,&nbsp; will reharmonize the melody depending on
      where they intersect.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As a matter of fact, this is kind of a
      cool approach to take, viz a vis <br>
      something like "In a Silent Way"&nbsp;&nbsp; or "Bitches Brew" from Miles
      Davis.<br>
      <br>
      /R.<br>
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Remember that when doing sysex dumps you have to use two midi cables, 
from in to out from and to both machines, the data must be hand-shaked 
from unit to unit which requires a two way communication.

D.


On 12/30/2012 6:26 AM, rdwfour@verizon.net wrote:
> Did you try connecting the two SE-70s together via MIDI cable and bulk 
> dump one to the other?
> On 12/28/12, Michael Peters<mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
>
> I bought a second Boss SE-70 a while ago because it is such a 
> versatile effect box (the sounds on my Escape Veloopity album were 
> made with an SE-70 in the mid-90s).I would love to copy all the 
> presets that I created on my first SE-70 to the new one. Any idea how 
> this could be done?(I tried a Windows software called "Soundquest 
> Midiquest" which should recognize the box and download the presets to 
> the computer but it does not work for some reason - it doesn't 
> recognize an SE-70 that is plugged into the computer.)
>
> -Michael
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      you have to use two midi cables, from in to out from and to both
      machines, the data must be hand-shaked from unit to unit which
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                software called "<span class="SpellE">Soundquest</span>
                <span class="SpellE">Midiquest</span>" which should
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                doesn't recognize an SE-70 that is plugged into the
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> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
> <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

>> So, with that in mind, anyone have any soft synths they find especially
>> fun
>> to play via guitar synth?


I think the most fun soft synths are those with a built-in
arpeggiator. With that the synth becomes an extension of the guitar's
playability rather than just another add-on to its sound.

There are many arpeggiating soft synths around and I personally have
and use Alchemy and Rob Papen Albino. On some occasions I have used
the arpeggiator in Ableton Live to juggle around my guitar chord notes
into some of Live's synths. Alchemy's arp is a little more fun though,
because in one mode it can be set to work similar to "insert" on an
EDP/Mobius, meaning adding each new note you play to the loop length
of the arpeggio. When playing with an arpeggiator it makes sense to
assign an expression pedal to the filter cut-off of the synth, so you
can bring it down or up as your music flows.

Another soft synth with good arpeggiating at hand is Omnisphere. I
have no hands-on experience with it myself though. Given the huge
installation it is a typical instrument that I hold off from buying as
long as I can do without it ;-)  The dozen synths in Logic/Mainstage
is hard to beat for the work I do because they are all so well
integrated and thus very fast to work with. I know though that you can
replicate a lot of Vangelis' classic synth sounds with Omnisphere, so
if such a project should up it might be a reason for me to get it.

Sampling is also great fun with MIDI guitar! I started with a Roland
SE-3000 in 1990 and had each guitar string send over its own MIDI
channels so I could load a unique sound for each string in the
sampler. At one fret a loop could be triggered while the next fret had
a string pad chord going off; I typically set the number of voices for
each string so low that a new sound would take over from the previous
sound on that string, so the fretboard became a kind of sample/loop
trigger grid (like the spreadsheet design of Mobius and Ableton Live
session view). With software samplers setting up and editing sampler
patches is so much faster. The EXS24 of Logic/Mainstage is my main
workhorse both for playing live and producing recordings... oh, I just
recalled I uploaded a video with the EXS24 a while back:
http://youtu.be/P3pOhBKAC-A: the guitar sound you hear behind the
Stick string sound is my Stratocaster that I have sampled and made an
EXS24 patch of  (You hear that best from 3:39 and out). The cool thing
here is that I set the sampler's attack to quite slow, so it won't
interfere with the natural string attack but kind of sneak in
smoothly. Another good, in fact a lot more advanced, sampler is
Kontakt. But for mocking up my own sampler instrument patches I prefer
EXS24 because it faster. Kontakt has its own scripting functionality
that makes it more suited for situations when you buy maybe a string
orchestra library where someone has put in a lot of scripting work to
make it sound gorgeous.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen

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I'm a sucker for virtual analog sounds, so I love U-he's Diva.  It's very
processor-hungry but it sounds amazing.  U-he's Zebra also has a Zebrify
mode that turns pitch straight into notes without midi conversion.


On Mon, December 31, 2012 1:07 am, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
> Well, after figuring out how to use Live to do some of what I want to
> accomplish (thanks möbius too), I've realized I can complicate and expand
> my rig even further.
>
> So, with that in mind, anyone have any soft synths they find especially
> fun
> to play via guitar synth?  I seem to recall Absynth being a good
> possibility but I thought I'd appeal to the freaky genius living here to
> get some ideas.
>
> Thanks and full sails to 2013.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
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Hi Rick

I guess your approach makes sense for complex stuff, i.e. polyrhythmic music. If I remember right, even serial music (i.e. Philip Glass) is notated this way.

I was thinking way simpler, more in terms of "Ableton Clips for Lead Sheets". More specifically, I'd like to define several bass grooves and notate on the lead sheet when each bass groove is played - avoiding repetition as much as possible.

Any common notation suggestions for this?
best regards
Buzap

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If the Boomerang 3 offered _full_ midi implementation - I'd be tempted to get one...
B.

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We're already deeply into extended notation here so I'd say anything
that simplifies reading for performance can be used. I once had a
chance to study a score by Elliot Sharp for an octet and he had simply
penned in instructions in plain English to the musicians on the bars
where that made more sense then traditional notation symbols. It was
mainly a normal score but on certains bars Sharp's instructions to the
musicians were in functionality equal to Ableton Live's Follow
Actions. When each player were instructed to "pick any five notes",
and similar, this comes close to a random implementation.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi Rick
>
> I guess your approach makes sense for complex stuff, i.e. polyrhythmic music. If I remember right, even serial music (i.e. Philip Glass) is notated this way.
>
> I was thinking way simpler, more in terms of "Ableton Clips for Lead Sheets". More specifically, I'd like to define several bass grooves and notate on the lead sheet when each bass groove is played - avoiding repetition as much as possible.
>
> Any common notation suggestions for this?
> best regards
> Buzap
>

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>chance=20to=20study=20a=20score=20by=20Elliot=20Sharp=20for=20an=20octet=
=20and=20he=20had=20simply
>penned=20in=20instructions=20in=20plain=20English=20to=20the=20musicians=
=20on=20the=20bars
>where=20that=20made=20more=20sense=20then=20traditional=20notation=20symbo=
ls.=20It=20was
>mainly=20a=20normal=20score=20but=20on=20certains=20bars=20Sharp's=20instr=
uctions=20to=20the
>musicians=20were=20in=20functionality=20equal=20to=20Ableton=20Live's=20Fo=
llow
>Actions.=20When=20each=20player=20were=20instructed=20to=20"pick=20any=20f=
ive=20notes",
>and=20similar,=20this=20comes=20close=20to=20a=20random=20implementation.
>
>Greetings=20from=20Sweden
>
>Per=20Boysen
>www.perboysen.com
>http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
>
>On=20Mon,=20Dec=2031,=202012=20at=201:07=20PM,=20Buzap=20Buzap=20<buzap@gm=
x.net>=20wrote:
>>Hi=20Rick
>>
>>I=20guess=20your=20approach=20makes=20sense=20for=20complex=20stuff,=20i.=
e.=20polyrhythmic=20music.=20
>>If=20I=20remember=20right,=20even=20serial=20music=20(i.e.=20Philip=20Gla=
ss)=20is=20notated=20this=20way.
>>
>>I=20was=20thinking=20way=20simpler,=20more=20in=20terms=20of=20"Ableton=
=20Clips=20for=20Lead=20Sheets".=20
>>More=20specifically,=20I'd=20like=20to=20define=20several=20bass=20groove=
s=20and=20notate=20on=20the=20
>>lead=20sheet=20when=20each=20bass=20groove=20is=20played=20-=20avoiding=
=20repetition=20as=20much=20as=20
>>possible.
>>
>>Any=20common=20notation=20suggestions=20for=20this?
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As someone who still hasn=E2=80=99t installed the GR-20 and its pickup =
on my beloved Stratocaster, would the SE-70 be a good match =
effects-wise?  I can tell they LOOK good together, but would love your =
input as usual, folks.

From: David Messenger=20
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:05 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: Boss SE-70 preset saving/loading

Remember that when doing sysex dumps you have to use two midi cables, =
from in to out from and to both machines, the data must be hand-shaked =
from unit to unit which requires a two way communication.=20

D.


On 12/30/2012 6:26 AM, rdwfour@verizon.net wrote:

  Did you try connecting the two SE-70s together via MIDI cable and bulk =
dump one to the other?=20



  On 12/28/12, Michael Petersmailto:mp@mpeters.de wrote:=20

  I bought a second Boss SE-70 a while ago because it is such a =
versatile effect box (the sounds on my Escape Veloopity album were made =
with an SE-70 in the mid-90s).  I would love to copy all the presets =
that I created on my first SE-70 to the new one. Any idea how this could =
be done?  (I tried a Windows software called "Soundquest Midiquest" =
which should recognize the box and download the presets to the computer =
but it does not work for some reason - it doesn't recognize an SE-70 =
that is plugged into the computer.)



  -Michael





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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Boss SE-70 preset =
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<BR><BR>D.<BR><BR><BR>On 12/30/2012 6:26 AM, <A =
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box (the=20
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Looking for a drummer, tech-head in New York, New Jersey area for
experimental, electronic duo project in 2013. Any peeps interested,
please get in touch.

Ricky

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Starting 2013 in a positive way:

Anyone going to be within train distance of Prague (or within very
cheap flight distance from Prague) in mid-May interested in putting
together some performances, please get in touch =85 I'll be there from
the evening of the 14th and flying out of Prague on Monday 20 May,
best dates would be 18-19 May (in a conference 15-17 May) =85

Best,

Dennis

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It's always challenging to use traditional notation practices with a =
non-tradition "aural" artform (aurtform?).  To clarify, are you saying =
that you want the sheet music to show every measure of the piece, as if =
it was taken from a full score that shows all of the parts?

If I were to actually notate a bass part that way, I might simply =
include the particular groove notated in its entirety at the beginning =
of each section, and then use the traditional symbol that indicates =
repeating a pattern, bracketing the number of measures that represents =
the length of the groove each time the groove is replayed. =20

For example, if the groove pattern is four measures long, I would score =
it out at each occurence the first time it is played, and then bracket =
the next four measures and put a large symbol in the middle of those =
four measures indicating that the groove pattern should be repeated.  =
And so forth bracketing each four measures as the piece continues, until =
the groove changes when I would do the same thing again for the new =
groove.

But I'm sure there may be another way to do it that works even better.

Peace,
Michael Carlson
3x09

On Dec 31, 2012, at 4:07 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote:

> Hi Rick
>=20
> I guess your approach makes sense for complex stuff, i.e. polyrhythmic =
music. If I remember right, even serial music (i.e. Philip Glass) is =
notated this way.
>=20
> I was thinking way simpler, more in terms of "Ableton Clips for Lead =
Sheets". More specifically, I'd like to define several bass grooves and =
notate on the lead sheet when each bass groove is played - avoiding =
repetition as much as possible.
>=20
> Any common notation suggestions for this?
> best regards
> Buzap
>=20
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I wrote two nice emails before to no avail.

Please remove this email address form the distro list.

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With all due respect, Chris, why are you telling *me*?

Tim Mungenast
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--- On Mon, 12/31/12, Christopher Clark <mr.cclark@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Christopher Clark <mr.cclark@gmail.com>
> Subject: Sweet mother of god...c'mon
> To: "loopers-delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Date: Monday, December 31, 2012, 3:19 PM
> I wrote two nice emails before to no
> avail.
> 
> Please remove this email address form the distro list.
> 
> 

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Or me?

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@verizon.net> wrote:

> 
> With all due respect, Chris, why are you telling *me*?
> 
> Tim Mungenast
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> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 12/31/12, Christopher Clark <mr.cclark@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Christopher Clark <mr.cclark@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Sweet mother of god...c'mon
>> To: "loopers-delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Date: Monday, December 31, 2012, 3:19 PM
>> I wrote two nice emails before to no
>> avail.
>> 
>> Please remove this email address form the distro list.
>> 
>> 
> 

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Guys, he was telling Mary, didn't you see his subject line?

I didn't know she was on this list!  Man, this list is awesome.

3x09

On Dec 31, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote:

> Or me?
> 
> Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)
> 
> On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> With all due respect, Chris, why are you telling *me*?
>> 
>> Tim Mungenast
>> Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
>> Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 12/31/12, Christopher Clark <mr.cclark@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Christopher Clark <mr.cclark@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Sweet mother of god...c'mon
>>> To: "loopers-delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>> Date: Monday, December 31, 2012, 3:19 PM
>>> I wrote two nice emails before to no
>>> avail.
>>> 
>>> Please remove this email address form the distro list.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Tim,
I apologize.
Can you or anyone direct me to the person or addy that can get me off the list.
As you may know, the emails I get from LD do not give any indication
of how to do this.
Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> With all due respect, Chris, why are you telling *me*?
>
> Tim Mungenast
> Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
> Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast
>
>
> --- On Mon, 12/31/12, Christopher Clark <mr.cclark@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Christopher Clark <mr.cclark@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Sweet mother of god...c'mon
>> To: "loopers-delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Date: Monday, December 31, 2012, 3:19 PM
>> I wrote two nice emails before to no
>> avail.
>>
>> Please remove this email address form the distro list.
>>
>>
>



-- 
Regards,

CRC

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Hit the http://loopersdelight.com site. It's right there on the front page u=
nder mailing list.=20
>=20

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