From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 04:26:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8125B183465; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 04:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 04:25:57 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:25:30 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T's 70th birthday concert 119 Gallery in Lowell, MA Oct 6. Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <9bshJC.A.HFD.XtRaQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 04:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'm having another one in a larger space with more people. The event is at 119 Gallery (my favorite performance space) Doctor T -- Video with Joe Burgio - movement Lou Cohen - laptop Mike Funiole - synthesizer Karen Langlie - cello, electronics Setheyny Loueb-Pen - drums, percussion Andrea Pensado - voice, laptop Walter Wright - electronics, drums Eric Crawley -- Harpejji, Electronics Michael Bloom - table guitar Dave Bryant - keyboard Kit Demos - bass, electronics Junko Fujiwara - cello Eric Rosenthal - drums Walter Wright - electronics, drums Greg Kowalski - video in multiple permutations and combinations for three sets, 119 Gallery 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 8:00 PM http://www.119gallery.org/ My videos, including recordings of some of my performances, can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 08:59:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEB85183466; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5UjIGaCYsQ+U/qe2+XQ1dTh+qrrZeoOwZf3fJLjvQzY=; b=o1l3a1yHuvP97H4ZLVF8Th1ixj0pTdhD0IZoyQ8t8k5MzcFhSJtuCtVfJAevyUd0Np n52u5XmSQXnyluOqAGQxYWuu0mMUPY2EpKi18vyRwpZ00Hd4T3XytttZ0gm2vvd4a9MP Oz1eOzSrekXGzOVa+tVipj444HffU5HBx39i+TvxOjAmp8G3DgC0IwCQsbVnd5Uf+poa Y1ZWMat5BVTQSky5SpeY9VLzT1CraWnR2aQz0cEv8AzTjEYkLp6UWRTdLca3+CZjdORE 23B+F3tt/k7GWHVSF97jIbW1xl7mS0RL2t6ETZJ/CJS3bMrjpsKODs6XoQE9d+5+e/tk Djaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 09:59:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Nv0xi5wu0IA_Ha5XK1P42XdZ3Hs Message-ID: Subject: some live videos, and a gig reminder From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi, four new gig videos from the last week here: https://vimeo.com/album/1472815/sort:date/format:thumbnail We'll be playing a much quieter set on Thursday night at the Cornershop (Shoreditch High St): http://www.facebook.com/events/348488138575441/ cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 11:46:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B00F183465; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Axon AX50 question Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:46:15 +0200 Message-ID: <006501cd9fca$5d850020$188f0060$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01CD9FDB.210DD020" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2fyl0zdj26CX/RThmEAatAm0BUkw== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:46:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01CD9FDB.210DD020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anyone here really fluent with setting up an Axon AX50 under Windows? = (maybe contact me offline as this is too OT) =20 I thought I had mine running but before that gig on Saturday, suddenly = it wasn't found, then it was eventually found but it insisted that my = guitar was a guitar with a traditional tuning whereas I was actually = playing in NST. Result was: no midi, and lots of my toys were gone. = Argh! =20 -Michael =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01CD9FDB.210DD020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

anyone here really fluent with setting = up an Axon AX50 under Windows?=C2=A0 = (maybe contact me offline as this is too = OT)

 

I = thought I had mine running but before that gig on Saturday, suddenly it = wasn't found, then it was eventually found but it insisted that my = guitar was a guitar with a traditional tuning whereas I was actually = playing in NST. Result was: no midi, and lots of my toys were gone. = Argh!

 

-Michael

 

=  

 

------=_NextPart_000_0066_01CD9FDB.210DD020-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 14:37:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BB23183466; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=/pxTZZPZdMwmiVPnNI3WKx/A7i4u0dwOe35UeYwfhxw= c=1 sm=2 a=6bOs-2Gc3igA:10 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=jPJDawAOAc8A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=2dOkdOPWOYStMWKI1VAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=053Au2P4wpAA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=gdOuaYpoRNhqb_aJHJIA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.195.244 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--719626352 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_The_Music_That_Just=85_Happens!_=28Per_up?= =?windows-1252?Q?load=29?= Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 07:37:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:37:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--719626352 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Per!!! Very very nice. I only listened to a bit early yesterday morning as I = had a meeting from 9-5... but really liked what I heard. Will listen = more today.=20 richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Anders Bergdahl > wrote: >> Yes very nice, and if it's is music that just happened, could it been = in any >> other way? >>=20 >> So could you even in theory have played this differently than you = did? >=20 > Of course! It's a totally organic method, no random processing except > for me making mistakes that inspire new directions. >=20 >=20 >> Right now I'm attending the intro course at EMS (electro aucostic = studio in >> Stockholm) and that experience will make music happened in other = ways... >> Perhaps. The course also make me reflect a lot on what music IS... >> A lot of the electro aucostic music is sort without key, it is SOUNDS = that >> are the elements not notes... >=20 > Yes, that's amazing too but a totally different approach than my > upload. I was more going along with the free space jazz tradition of > the sixties - not in sound but in the human/organic method for instant > composition (Pharoa Sanders, John Coltrane, Eric Dolphy and all > related guys). >=20 > Hey, cool that you're taking the EMS treat now! :-) Let us "locals" > know if you guys are putting on some public concert during the course! >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 --Apple-Mail-2--719626352 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hey = Per!!!

Very very nice.  I only listened to a bit = early yesterday morning as I had a meeting from 9-5... but really liked = what I heard.  Will listen more today. 

richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
= www.goodnaturefarms.com=











On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

On = Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Anders Bergdahl
<anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.co= m> wrote:
Yes very nice, and if it's = is music that just happened, could it been in = any
other = way?

So could you = even in theory have played this differently than you = did?

Of course! It's a totally organic method, no = random processing except
for me making mistakes that inspire new = directions.


Right now I'm attending = the intro course at EMS (electro aucostic studio = in
Stockholm) and that = experience will make music happened in other = ways...
Perhaps. The course = also make me reflect a lot on what music = IS...
A lot of the electro = aucostic music is sort without key, it is SOUNDS = that
are the elements not = notes...

Yes, that's amazing too but a totally = different approach than my
upload. I was more going along with the = free space jazz tradition  of
the sixties - not in sound but in = the human/organic method for instant
composition (Pharoa Sanders, = John Coltrane, Eric Dolphy and all
related guys).

Hey, cool = that you're taking the EMS treat now! :-)  Let us "locals"
know = if you guys are putting on some public concert during the = course!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.yout= ube.com/perboysen


= --Apple-Mail-2--719626352-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 15:16:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35810183473; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <006501cd9fca$5d850020$188f0060$@de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Axon AX50 question In-Reply-To: <006501cd9fca$5d850020$188f0060$@de> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF6DFED9ACDE0C_700_174542_webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37001-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF6DFED992AEF7-700-69D3B@webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.17.180] Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:16:22 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349104585; bh=1Dfe1W62JI135+yFOAe8G9amkoBmWotZWWMa6BBikWI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KU+S5WCB9L5NgiqAWMXxPyvifY+OX4ae0bBpn+TnOX4vmpzQ+GDbkCB86jaIf5YHr 1Dko/jG+rtAFnthgJJgDWdAAcA1NA7yDDzk1D51kUN6ih1zVn1/S1agahhLZ2U55EJ PgYb+4h8HBO2KiZAcuvX5StBiDU88SaDcm95kGsU= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:362193408:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b5069b3c761ff Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:16:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF6DFED9ACDE0C_700_174542_webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MICHAEL SEZ: Result was: no midi, and lots of my toys were gone. Argh! michael sez: bring on the peter paul and mary songbook! =20 ----------MB_8CF6DFED9ACDE0C_700_174542_webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" MICHAEL SEZ:
Result was: no midi, and lots of my toys were gone. Argh!

michael sez:

       = ;bring on the peter paul and mary songbook!


----------MB_8CF6DFED9ACDE0C_700_174542_webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 16:12:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EE41183473; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 556 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:12:11 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=lUfMw+33fo4hGviu29hY3e/ywRFss8scx7+JvRuKCzAZ+C9zwxiM1E0Ga2sZjtfn; h=Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: Paul Sullivan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Any news on LP-2, anyone? Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:02:54 -0400 Message-Id: <97728B34-BF87-4F69-B985-E6DDFFBA2E45@earthlink.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec792af41f6cdeaad9efcb880dbed0425c1c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.131.192.43 Resent-Message-ID: <-acBjD.A.IFC.cDcaQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:12 +0000 (UTC) So, with my LP-2 not usable due to the noise issue and no word about = fixes I sent an email to Bob 2 weeks ago. I have decided to forgo the = $200 credit towards future purchases and just send it in for a refund. = In reply I got a form letter that said he wasn't able to reply to emails = during the week, but would on the weekend. Well, 2 weekends have come = and gone since then, and no word... but the email did have something about the noise issue being resolved, = and that he is now building new units...but still no time reply to my = weeks old email. Gotta say I'm getting pretty tired of this. This has = been a really, really long road. I didn't complain when the wait = stretched out months and months and months, and then the noise issue, = waiting weeks and weeks for that info, and so on...but would really like = to settle this once and for all. So, the old refrain again: HAS ANYONE = HEARD ANYTHING FROM BOB?! Thanks, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 16:19:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC350183474; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_33f38040-8f87-4ded-9674-9f27ce74ca75_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:19:35 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2012 16:19:36.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C9DC650:01CD9FF0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:19:37 +0000 (UTC) --_33f38040-8f87-4ded-9674-9f27ce74ca75_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Torben! It's a pleasure to help enthusiast people in getting what they want.People = should share and help each other more. Take care and let me know how do you feel the difference. For me it was won= derful to have the fourth loop always free and many functions immediately a= vailable. Cheers and thanks for the nice thought of writing this email. Sergio From: torbenscharling@gmail.com Date: Fri=2C 28 Sep 2012 19:37:17 +0200 Subject: Re: FW: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Just wanted to mention for other potential buyer=2C that I had a great comm= unication and a pleasant transaction with the seller Sergio G=2C so you can= be sure you'll receive things nicely packaged and well taken care of. Than= ks Sergio :) Best Regards=2C Torben Scharling On Fri=2C Sep 21=2C 2012 at 3:53 PM=2C Sergio G wr= ote: Update: Side Car sold (thanks and have fun!) So=2C corrected list: - Boomerang III: I still resist a bit to let it go because it was my first = looper and you can't forget your first looper=2C but I really do not need i= t. Never ever went out of my room=2C treated as a queen=2C new as a new one ca= n be=2C used actually few times. - Mackie DFX 6 Mixer:it is much sturdier than my Mackie ProFX8=2C and I hav= e the impression that even quieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I prefer= to keep that one=2C in case my audio interface fails one day. - Korg MicroSampler:it is not a looper because it can't sample and play bac= k immediately like a looper=2C you must record the loop and press play. But= it is a nice sampler with lot of cool features=2C effects=2C time stretchi= ng=2C pitch shift=2C etc. I would like to keep it because I still had no ti= me to experiment with it enough=2C but honestly=2C with the Octatrack=2C I = am covered. And I prefer to have cash for things which I really miss. - Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor: few to say. Well=2C one thing=2C I= do not have the power adapter=2C I bought it without=2C and I am using the= one of another gear. - TC Electronic VoiceTone Create: collection of effects for the voice. I li= ke it a lot but I have already so many effects... - Faderfox LV2:=20 I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller which can assig= n a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox can't (of cours= e=2C it was thought for Ableton=2C and it is perfect for it). So=2C I prefe= r to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and Octatrack. - Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC Helicon VoiceTone H1: I can'= t decide which one to keep=2C so=2C the first one which is requested=2C goe= s. The quality of harmonies is the same. The Digitech has got midi in/out/t= hrough and line in/out=2C so can work with guitar or keyboard. The H1 can o= nly work with guitar and makes only two voices (but it is smaller and light= er). - Korg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation:my first music teacher. The firs= t music I made=2C it was with it=2C no computer=2C no software=2C all compo= sed and edited within this keyboard. Some of the sounds are outdated=2C but= many of them I find them very beautiful. But=2C again=2C with a midi keybo= ard and Ableton's synth=2C I just do not need it... That's it.Prices are all speakable=2C so=2C just contact me privately and l= et's talk about it. I live in North Germany=2C as for what concerns shipping. Ser =20 = --_33f38040-8f87-4ded-9674-9f27ce74ca75_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Torben!

It= 's a pleasure to help enthusiast people in getting what they want.
People should share and help each other more.

=
Take care and let me know how do you feel the difference. For me it wa= s wonderful to have the fourth loop always free and many functions immediat= ely available.

Cheers and thanks for the nice thou= ght of writing this email.

Sergio




From: torbenscharling@gmail.com
= Date: Fri=2C 28 Sep 2012 19:37:17 +0200
Subject: Re: FW: For Sale: Boome= rang III and other things
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Just wanted to mention for other potential buyer=2C that I had a great com= munication and a pleasant transaction with the seller Sergio G=2C so you ca= n be sure you'll receive things nicely packaged and well taken care of. Tha= nks Sergio :)

Best Regards=2C

Torben Scharling

On Fri=2C Sep 21=2C 2012 at 3:53 PM=2C Sergio G <= =3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>= =3B wrote:
Update:

Side Car sold (thanks an= d have fun!)

So=2C corrected list:

- Boomerang III: =3B
I still resist a bit to let it go because it was my first looper and you = can't forget your first looper=2C but I really do not need it.
Never ever went out of my room=2C treated as a queen=2C new as a new o= ne can be=2C used actually few times.

- Mackie DFX= 6 Mixer:
it is much =3Bsturdier =3Bthan my Mackie ProFX8= =2C and I have the impression that even =3Bquieter. But the ProFX8 has = got usb and I prefer to keep that one=2C in case my audio interface fails o= ne day.

- Korg MicroSampler:
it is not a looper becau= se it can't sample and play back immediately like a looper=2C you must reco= rd the loop and press play. But it is a nice sampler with lot of cool featu= res=2C effects=2C time stretching=2C pitch shift=2C etc. I would like to ke= ep it because I still had no time to experiment with it enough=2C but hones= tly=2C with the Octatrack=2C I am covered. And I prefer to have cash for th= ings which I really miss.

- Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor: =3B
<= div>few to say. Well=2C one thing=2C I do not have the power adapter=2C I b= ought it without=2C and I am using the one of another gear.

- TC Electronic VoiceTone Create:&nbs= p=3B
collection of effects for the voice. I like it a lot but I h= ave already so many effects...

- Faderfox LV2:&nbs= p=3B
I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller which can assig= n a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox can't (of cours= e=2C it was thought for Ableton=2C and it is perfect for it). So=2C I prefe= r to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and Octatrack.

- Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC Helicon = VoiceTone H1: =3B
I can't decide which one to keep=2C so=2C t= he first one which is requested=2C goes. The quality of harmonies is the sa= me. The Digitech has got midi in/out/through and line in/out=2C so can work= with guitar or keyboard. The H1 can only work with guitar and makes only t= wo voices (but it is smaller and lighter).

- =3BKorg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation:
my first music teacher. The first music I made=2C it was with it=2C n= o computer=2C no software=2C all composed and edited within this keyboard. = Some of the sounds are outdated=2C but many of them I find them very beauti= ful. But=2C again=2C with a midi keyboard and Ableton's synth=2C I just do = not need it...


That's it.
Prices are all spea= kable=2C so=2C just contact me =3Bprivately =3Band let's talk about= it.

I live in North Germany=2C as for= what =3Bconcerns =3Bshipping.


Ser
=

= --_33f38040-8f87-4ded-9674-9f27ce74ca75_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 19:39:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78057183477; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=JYJyjbzP9QEcRGpFDcEhBGF+didvd0VrjrOp72WlMmM=; b=m8BGJfPKjf9ttYBBUYa25YklOozxWPXE7BFouWkCtL1keojTDOocKkHcsKxsAS+LDO w25c2BCaTE+MXw1vcXyvVazfTQcd8IyUff7dK1PHr/t+UHjgwCQ6jwGSC2CrSXsO8Vne X15QC5NdQgRIR6/4DYI2apN84Hbe/ThT0MC5eMnKvNp84aXHp22OnJk9FVG9taC004No wLPH6ixnNdRJW0iviwr0ICxtOpA0WKfu9BA6kuE5ylo+MamqluFWaWiVr9audHew06iu QkqYCWcShtOAdTEzUNNGoJhbUeJZuwY+VV6EMLUyx161stBEfGqC79PThK7p/oLyG/Pv TgwA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:39:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: soliciting participation in "Touch the Loopers" From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043be0bed3ece704cb048f56 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmNWPQz+YxNnzN9E5T2v6ZeRq2bx0dzoiAKPZZy2RkvTr8JV5lg/4ssGzMIs3KVHmd+kVVX Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043be0bed3ece704cb048f56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As part of the International Live Looping Festival this year, a "Touch the Loopers" event will be held at my home in San Jose on Thursday October 18, starting at 7:30pm. It's inspired by "Touch the Gear" events that have become a tradition of the Outsound Music Summit in San Francisco. At these events, people bring, demonstrate, and allow other people to play with their gear - often experimental DIY instruments - in a very casual environment. Obviously, this "Touch the Loopers" event will focus on looping gear (including visual loopers, of which there will be at least 2). At the beginning of the evening, some time will be allocated for brief talks/demos, but most of the evening will be available for people to get hands-on experience with whatever equipment shows up. I also expect and hope that some of the casual conversations will include brainstorming of looping things that don't yet exist, but should. If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, software, commercial or custom) that you'd like to bring and let people play with, please contact me@timthompson.com ...Tim... --f46d043be0bed3ece704cb048f56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As part of the International Live Looping Festival this year, a "Touch= the Loopers" event will be held at my home in San Jose on Thursday Oc= tober 18, starting at 7:30pm. =A0It's inspired by "Touch the Gear&= quot; events that have become a tradition of the Outsound Music Summit in S= an Francisco. =A0At these events, people bring, demonstrate, and allow othe= r people to play with their gear - often experimental DIY instruments - in = a very casual environment. =A0Obviously, this "Touch the Loopers"= event will focus on looping gear (including visual loopers, of which there= will be at least 2). =A0At the beginning of the evening, some time will be= allocated for brief talks/demos, but most of the evening will be available= for people to get hands-on experience with whatever equipment shows up. = =A0I also expect and hope that some of the casual conversations will includ= e brainstorming of looping things that don't yet exist, but should.
=A0If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, softw= are, commercial or custom) that you'd like to bring and let people play= with, please contact me@timthompson.= com=A0

=A0 =A0 =A0...Tim...
--f46d043be0bed3ece704cb048f56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 20:42:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87E8F183477; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=hh4ujOxeRYCS2x1TZcz3b5nyYC2JB1waUy3jtx6WDXU=; b=ektTH3ApVbTJ5v+GmEHgBeK5jvw9T1MpSQTmJb0NDrCY60Auwf1ggScsJfD0wcdVjy gCp4bOa722t9GM8Oo5ltT5BWrST0Cx0xfrNonRHzxTq/6fmaJr3ncBJ6zoK3M8uVRY3/ DbwNKWBzT3sjcrR3PTh7fVnVljrqHtIG5ZRcjQ5RBaGmpooFcLUlxY9u6OpP3pKzf+0b bMpuKX3F7HkRIjYDdfmoC0FnQhmKod7W7FY2E58iPJfq+7uWuM0lQhcThtjHtfw2hsua rbEtYqvOwu0V3m3DauCXeuQv4+gJdr1nOaPvZvm4ywFgCzvd1gf2oTFK85DIBU4JNBP3 UQHA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? From: philip In-Reply-To: <97728B34-BF87-4F69-B985-E6DDFFBA2E45@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:41:20 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2A4CCCC9-BA38-4818-A3C7-CD9F07B0D856@gmail.com> References: <97728B34-BF87-4F69-B985-E6DDFFBA2E45@earthlink.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:42:03 +0000 (UTC) I think one of the members here, Rick Walker, if I am not mistaken seems = to be able to contact Bob. I was having MIDI trouble with LP1 and = started complaining loudly. Rick contacted Bob and Bob got in touch with = me ASAP. The upshot of my contact with Bob was that my MIDI sync problems were = all going to be fixed with the updated software which was due out = "shortly."=20 That was months and months ago. I haven't heard anything since, and my = subsequent mails have all gone unanswered. I heard the litany of excuses = and tried being patient, but I have decided that life is too short to = spend it waiting for (or being upset with) Bob. Good luck! Philip On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:02 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote: > So, with my LP-2 not usable due to the noise issue and no word about = fixes I sent an email to Bob 2 weeks ago. I have decided to forgo the = $200 credit towards future purchases and just send it in for a refund. = In reply I got a form letter that said he wasn't able to reply to emails = during the week, but would on the weekend. Well, 2 weekends have come = and gone since then, and no word... >=20 > but the email did have something about the noise issue being resolved, = and that he is now building new units...but still no time reply to my = weeks old email. Gotta say I'm getting pretty tired of this. This has = been a really, really long road. I didn't complain when the wait = stretched out months and months and months, and then the noise issue, = waiting weeks and weeks for that info, and so on...but would really like = to settle this once and for all. So, the old refrain again: HAS ANYONE = HEARD ANYTHING FROM BOB?! >=20 > Thanks, > Paul >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 23:48:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C10F9183477; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6c4a86fdae8c6850e06ccbfb1d9e0578.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20121001204205.A9B6E183478@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20121001204205.A9B6E183478@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:48:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Paul Sullivan" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <08nX6.A.5e.2uiaQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:48:06 +0000 (UTC) After extensive redesign of both hardware and software to fix the problems that the first iteration of the LP-2 had and with a lot of testing finished, Bob has started to ship out the second rev of the LP-2 in the past week. I won't go into details of what he did (largely because I"m not a programmer) but he changed the entire way that audio is processed to clean up the noise floor, fixed the glitching problems and changed the entire gain structure. It's just vastly improved from the debacle that got shipped initially. I'll be using two of them at the Looping Festival in three weeks time (Oct 17th - Oct 21st in San Jose, San Francisco and Santa Cruz).....more on that coming up in the next couple of days. I'm relieved (and excited) since the feature set was largely my design. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 05:26:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 353D1183475; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Xk7vW6Zh5By95JzGFtqTxtWbrcM/w+n/OpPZHeBODtI=; b=Vr3RJspUoqV7PddSrkz2vaucA4diySWy7fi3+nOzVdt/MvMF795noMjfCAG0cQnvL9 +5gGw8GKGfeugBnxu6VI9UDcfFW2RQ0tV/rhAQ0uoyUIchRUYY7qDis3qIj7gNass6dJ xKFaRBt1xSgjXHY+JVO2H7jrXR3iq0Xg+Fp5UEzppUGOxoN1nLPN6EJl/YDWjAykope6 dI3caVym0f2VkJqrEAqFNweD/fUJrQ3XEpJajVkMMwNewOXpiV8pZ7qZmKLFeRm50j2N /qNnu5JNhLsZxUzve7+z7Oe8JV3/di7AMVO7U5lFfRv/p/+iTMoO9scTmlxVdiVPATYs n5+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Torben Scharling Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:25:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0407144b39f98404cb0cc303 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:26:23 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0407144b39f98404cb0cc303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Sergio and other people interested in the Boomerang III and looping in general :) Indeed, the Side Car (almost) completes the looping package for me. I wrote a few semi-lengthy posts about my initial thoughts, after receiving it. Unfortunately my laptop and other things need fixing/updating (too much latency with the M-audio FW1814 for instance..) but it's a nice comfort to finally have some hardware, that can relieve some of the tasks, that would otherwise require software and a midi pedal. With this build like a tank hardware, and some practice, I should be good to go for the stage pretty soon :) Feel free to check it out, and comment. I included a few pictures, and more updates will come - as I get my system more complete, and start doing live videos etc. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1148067 Cheers, /Torben On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Sergio G wrote: > Thank you Torben! > > It's a pleasure to help enthusiast people in getting what they want. > People should share and help each other more. > > Take care and let me know how do you feel the difference. For me it was > wonderful to have the fourth loop always free and many functions > immediately available. > > Cheers and thanks for the nice thought of writing this email. > > Sergio > > > > > ------------------------------ > From: torbenscharling@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:37:17 +0200 > Subject: Re: FW: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Just wanted to mention for other potential buyer, that I had a great > communication and a pleasant transaction with the seller Sergio G, so you > can be sure you'll receive things nicely packaged and well taken care of. > Thanks Sergio :) > > Best Regards, > > Torben Scharling > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Sergio G wrote: > > *Update:* > * > * > *Side Car sold (thanks and have fun!)* > > So, corrected list: > > - Boomerang III: > I still resist a bit to let it go because it was my first looper and you > can't forget your first looper, but I really do not need it. > Never ever went out of my room, treated as a queen, new as a new one can > be, used actually few times. > > - Mackie DFX 6 Mixer: > it is much sturdier than my Mackie ProFX8, and I have the impression that > even quieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I prefer to keep that one, in > case my audio interface fails one day. > > - Korg MicroSampler: > it is not a looper because it can't sample and play back immediately like > a looper, you must record the loop and press play. But it is a nice sampler > with lot of cool features, effects, time stretching, pitch shift, etc. I > would like to keep it because I still had no time to experiment with it > enough, but honestly, with the Octatrack, I am covered. And I prefer to > have cash for things which I really miss. > > - Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor: > few to say. Well, one thing, I do not have the power adapter, I bought it > without, and I am using the one of another gear. > > - TC Electronic VoiceTone Create: > collection of effects for the voice. I like it a lot but I have already so > many effects... > > - Faderfox LV2: > I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller which can > assign a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox can't (of > course, it was thought for Ableton, and it is perfect for it). So, I prefer > to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and Octatrack. > > - Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC Helicon VoiceTone H1: > I can't decide which one to keep, so, the first one which is requested, > goes. The quality of harmonies is the same. The Digitech has got midi > in/out/through and line in/out, so can work with guitar or keyboard. The H1 > can only work with guitar and makes only two voices (but it is smaller and > lighter). > > - Korg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation: > my first music teacher. The first music I made, it was with it, no > computer, no software, all composed and edited within this keyboard. Some > of the sounds are outdated, but many of them I find them very beautiful. > But, again, with a midi keyboard and Ableton's synth, I just do not need > it... > > > That's it. > Prices are all speakable, so, just contact me privately and let's talk > about it. > > I live in North Germany, as for what concerns shipping. > > > Ser > > --f46d0407144b39f98404cb0cc303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sergio and other people interested in the Boomerang III a= nd looping in general :)

Indeed, the Side Car (almost) completes the= looping package for me. I wrote a few semi-lengthy posts about my initial = thoughts, after receiving it. Unfortunately my laptop and other things need= fixing/updating (too much latency with the M-audio FW1814 for instance..) = but it's a nice comfort to finally have some hardware, that can relieve= some of the tasks, that would otherwise require software and a midi pedal.= With this build like a tank hardware, and some practice, I should be good = to go for the stage pretty soon :)

Feel free to check it out, and comment. I included a few pictures, and = more updates will come - as I get my system more complete, and start doing = live videos etc. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D1148067

Cheers,

/Torben

On Mon, Oct 1,= 2012 at 6:19 PM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wro= te:
Thank you Torben!

It'= s a pleasure to help enthusiast people in getting what they want.
People should share and help each other more.

Take care and let me know how do you feel the difference. For me it wa= s wonderful to have the fourth loop always free and many functions immediat= ely available.

Cheers and thanks for the nice thou= ght of writing this email.

Sergio




From: torbenscharling@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 2= 8 Sep 2012 19:37:17 +0200
Subject: Re: FW: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things
To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com

Just wanted to me= ntion for other potential buyer, that I had a great communication and a ple= asant transaction with the seller Sergio G, so you can be sure you'll r= eceive things nicely packaged and well taken care of. Thanks Sergio :)

Best Regards,

Torben Scharling

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 = at 3:53 PM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
Update:

Side Car sold (thanks an= d have fun!)

So, corrected list:

- Boomerang III:=A0
I still resist a bit= to let it go because it was my first looper and you can't forget your = first looper, but I really do not need it.
Never ever went out of my room, treated as a queen, new as a new one c= an be, used actually few times.

- Mackie DFX 6 Mix= er:
it is much=A0sturdier=A0than my Mackie ProFX8, and I have the= impression that even=A0quieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I prefer to= keep that one, in case my audio interface fails one day.

- Korg MicroSampler:
it is not a looper becau= se it can't sample and play back immediately like a looper, you must re= cord the loop and press play. But it is a nice sampler with lot of cool fea= tures, effects, time stretching, pitch shift, etc. I would like to keep it = because I still had no time to experiment with it enough, but honestly, wit= h the Octatrack, I am covered. And I prefer to have cash for things which I= really miss.

- Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor:=A0
f= ew to say. Well, one thing, I do not have the power adapter, I bought it wi= thout, and I am using the one of another gear.

- TC Electronic VoiceTone Create:=A0
col= lection of effects for the voice. I like it a lot but I have already so man= y effects...

- Faderfox LV2:=A0
I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller which can assig= n a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox can't (of c= ourse, it was thought for Ableton, and it is perfect for it). So, I prefer = to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and Octatrack.

- Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC Helicon = VoiceTone H1:=A0
I can't decide which one to keep, so, the fi= rst one which is requested, goes. The quality of harmonies is the same. The= Digitech has got midi in/out/through and line in/out, so can work with gui= tar or keyboard. The H1 can only work with guitar and makes only two voices= (but it is smaller and lighter).

-=A0Korg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation:
my first music teacher. The first music I made, it was with it, no compute= r, no software, all composed and edited within this keyboard. Some of the s= ounds are outdated, but many of them I find them very beautiful. But, again= , with a midi keyboard and Ableton's synth, I just do not need it...


That's it.
Prices are all = speakable, so, just contact me=A0privately=A0and let's talk about it.

I live in North Germany, as for what=A0= concerns=A0shipping.


Ser
=
--f46d0407144b39f98404cb0cc303-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 13:23:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF62183462; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <506AEAAD.6070903@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:22:53 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "MAHA!!!" Subject: VOLUNTEERS: We need Y2K12 Transportation help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:23:00 +0000 (UTC) We can use volunteers to drive our foriegn Y2K12 Loopfestival artists 1) from SFO airport in San Francisco to Santa Cruz on Tuesday afternoon (2-10 p.m. ish) 2) to and from San Jose on Wednesday, Oct 17th to the Anno Domini Gallery performance 3) back to SFO airport from Santa Cruz on Tuesday afternoon, Oct 23rd (2-10 p.m. ish) please contact me directly (off list) if you have a vehicle you'd be willing to drive during one (or all) of those days and how many artists you think it would fit with you included. If money is a problem, we'll cover your gas (and parking in SF and San Jose). looppool@cruzio.com thanks a lot for your help, Rick Walker Y2K12 Loop Fest www.y2kloopfest.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 17:45:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F8DB183464; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 810239.75605.bm@omp1009.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349199950; bh=fFCl5WIDCrI7CsvuwIcaNCDNNGZZP8dMA4LomBcJWkk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bZvYhspN6eLpXfOwgGdOkyVwTa/rDkzsfck1W/tEmpyEKLIhZ+DJClGi+4cQHJr9Knh2FXFnUtx3MFaUAJ+ig1mrJn1mdQznXAtRYHQ5UI0H5IHlQS8seqna/wPyrQiiYT74C9b8U8yoKDXN64/6O+fxCFvk4Gh1dyEevA8Ezg4= X-YMail-OSG: 6FA8A8sVM1mYeWGneR1_mWGbPZPAAgki4F06Q1FDlmYAd2o BGgad6TIF31vvXHxbYSJtcVugEk9e9P8iPDD9qhP7FAgnbpQbh68o2yvbAWx NJO7ZWdWokv8I7ME5ZPpRU83DMGgaO3azTpySdJ_hnEP_Z3yKmn8bj_T6dAv bMk_HdepRjbfkL02T0wg9Dn46BY2XIl0CgmLtxZQ2oScH3S4sB7.4081ZRWs fWTxWZrRm3n310VyO9pjx3F4Tn3WODkqYqrhVXlEWfdq3LFw0g9VoR7KzH2q wdfZyiMyQl2oXR58aXpvpo90kBhzW.aakGfx2SN72clQmwnyUVOjM2iWYPNQ gDLrry.m3VQQ7yhNhuibJJnU_oR7jU4nToCQPLXHOTZk8odUpUVXriSbsuGI I4k29e1D20U54Yw4AdfHX5Kh4ceXVwvyioEnBrwTQPgxurnUHBbin5im07pt KOIseh_fRdOXEdhDBTuD72GtsH7psMpdBQJw.AImqRbeTSYym6f92Xhxvz4a KNxUxhd_KIiQKrh5DV3IJe_H.K_Z5EU5RDUmnY93pKoCxsJPeDOWhrunzK.9 BOFI1IiC_N_2sfS9KcFzxH56REEJPnrVYDB5LxtibjVi2VV1jh4hQ3FewPu2 5j.zbe6xa423u2pss_K__6F91JJT2mtavJu0c8gPFhzGEyOv1u._xozNLXA4 lNOCFeiIM1WiFznuM8vn21UWfSmOn.pfEG1EI.pXpnudrwBZdtJCzuYaAkyg iXPQbOlLoXrzJZEulx7zhf9Q5KN0NsCXPM0AwO2IIzB4CBP6le5vSX8NEb4u pLVIIlsOnNJQli7HMepT1Jyw7PeNf1USL_jGmHjYHwaLqanPxKgX.Ad3qtiv tpIugU_h9HdlX0LnVuJjeOXEnbM9EY3fK8kUTEMyV1Vhk69658ZHTtYZ1 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 Message-ID: <1349199950.35629.YahooMailClassic@web84515.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:45:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Doctor T's 70th birthday concert 119 Gallery in Lowell, MA Oct 6. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:45:52 +0000 (UTC) all apologies, my friend, but i will be watching my daughter that evening.= =0Ai hope this shindig is all you hope for.=0Ayour pal,=0Atim=0ATim Mungena= st=0AEditor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast=0AGuitaris= t/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast=0A=0A=0A--- On Sun, = 9/30/12, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote:=0A=0A= > From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) =0A> Subject: = Doctor T's 70th birthday concert 119 Gallery in Lowell, MA Oct 6.=0A> To: D= rTVideo@egroups.com=0A> Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, i= otacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yaho= ogroups.com, "Experimental Film Discussion List" =0A> Date: Sunday, September 30, 2012, 11:25 PM=0A> Hi folks,=0A> =0A= > I'm having another one in a larger space with more people.=0A> The event = is at 119 Gallery (my favorite performance space)=0A> =0A> Doctor T -- Vide= o with=0A> =0A> Joe Burgio - movement=0A> Lou Cohen - laptop=0A> Mike Funio= le - synthesizer=0A> Karen Langlie - cello, electronics=0A> Setheyny Loueb-= Pen - drums, percussion=0A> Andrea Pensado - voice, laptop=0A> Walter Wrigh= t - electronics, drums=0A> Eric Crawley -- Harpejji, Electronics=0A> Michae= l Bloom - table guitar=0A> Dave Bryant - keyboard=0A> Kit Demos - bass, ele= ctronics=0A> Junko Fujiwara - cello=0A> Eric Rosenthal - drums=0A> Walter W= right - electronics, drums=0A> Greg Kowalski - video=0A> =0A> in multiple p= ermutations and combinations for three sets,=0A> =0A> 119 Gallery=0A> 119 C= helmsford St=0A> Lowell, MA 01851=0A> 8:00 PM=0A> http://www.119gallery.or= g/=0A> =0A> My videos, including recordings of some of my performances,=0A>= can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld=0A> =0A> Culinary note: = There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant=0A> next door to the gallery.= =0A> -- "I rang a silent bell ..."=A0 -- Robert Hunter=0A> "... cast your d= ancing spell my way, I promise to go under=0A> it" -- Bob Dylan=0A> =0A> My= photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/col= lections/72157603627170351/=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 22:27:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44B6B183461; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <506B6A2C.4060509@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:26:52 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: LOOPING THEFT ALERT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:27:00 +0000 (UTC) LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli Q-014316 - eventide eclipse Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : 2.0 MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 Looperlative LP1 - Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 Roland AC-33 - zy90844st There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers........I'm just sayin' r. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 22:45:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F055E183462; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ZYMlqtDmlmffkx6hjdlUwQdgR/lnX3S4RbFVKtI/LTk=; b=wrNj1ARGjOkgvCIExT5+yM+BB8L3YrKGZ1SVm2mQUJGevxgsxnB+DS4n08dFqRu4Xd QzDciM9MfNewSIVrf9ef+Z191EQ50CeH/f6BVHCG5mpDkVt1bEh1kZufOGQZI4JjLsSP nkY6NDSsnAE1PlEmx2mH4GujO+6fUTsLnuz3hgcmhnk+KdWDmA0bM4FUE+h1On892n6M rsLffpCxFLN0gJ+yC3J2/5E6daksFt693pZ08bTM40Zlfc//DUm2N4d9l4NMj+tq0CWC lc6ibZMV893uMw1vV3FfY1+hnjr7ECSKVA7N/7rq4SLGyUbO8ZXYkF0GrYqiSBQ/f63p K2Ww== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: LOOPING THEFT ALERT From: Philip In-Reply-To: <506B6A2C.4060509@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 07:45:24 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <096BC734-3204-4821-B9A0-0D36D4AC512B@gmail.com> References: <506B6A2C.4060509@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: <1FhA_D.A.OHC.L62aQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:45:31 +0000 (UTC) There aren't too many LP1s around. Do you know the serial number? It's = bound to show up on eBay. P On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! >=20 > Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: >=20 > http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli = >=20 > Q-014316 - eventide eclipse > Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : 2.0 > MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 > Looperlative LP1 - > Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 > Roland AC-33 - zy90844st >=20 >=20 >=20 > There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal = equipment from > live loopers........I'm just sayin' >=20 > r. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 23:01:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F0A6183463; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 23:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=3j4BkbkPAAAA:8 a=I3xuA3xxwOX-eWDuz3IA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=BcwT0Smst7MCtTIIGOhIgQ==:117 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:01:14 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <7c3473c2.1123b.13a23b635ef.Webtop.47@charter.net> Subject: RE: LOOPING THEFT ALERT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 47 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 23:01:16 +0000 (UTC) That's just terrible Rick. I hope they find the guy, recover the gear, and stake the perp over an active ant hill for a week. Passalong the sentiment to Mogli. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! > > Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: > > http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli > > > Q-014316 - eventide eclipse > Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : 2.0 > MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 > Looperlative LP1 - > Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 > Roland AC-33 - zy90844st > > > > There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal > equipment from > live loopers........I'm just sayin' > > r. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 00:12:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2202C183462; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 534829.59704.bm@omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349223135; bh=DnM71iGQJGG73jFE9H00Pp+D8vwl5eYUORSFZW4/0Z8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=cSZmsjvbXrAXzbbzyzo8klUNJiKO8Foc1exYidtkYZI2PcZQsExBFKzr5pXJJ45P/lj6e5UfPrRyrniWGeKCLmX5a3kX2y2CKrjIXivMI3fXQkCnNpp6gEl0YHGPWsySEIskinCoGsdVT6htWaATgrHtk7ljw/BDD5Cap+KE2mQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: .MLXKOMVM1leJxNgV2x67fmPDrrdpF0Y4.3J94060jISlBV 3fRZhtuZe4ar3PARy2RjhR8Po5z4N7Z5EF0iE_JK.Pmsxg_Ue5hW1TIWrQC7 sXAFx1iH2lC10wJAY6wInwDEeFMygEPIYJYzWw63Tgkv0tDnjXBFYcSlgZQn S.9j8kTZcW8mc8AhdkfCku4FsvboCpVqEEUeENT72VC0S_EYtL.TR6s_mqha 2xsmTj.PpqkPYjHlkHg4FotLQwGRuPZT8seBTu8_18fm3ho0DZvtPBMcd541 96EpnCVjdFcq4KdeDRH9aFYJtHuAn7qsnYRloQA.Nk3dNpTldhLuf1GRk4UY 01yeDnFD1w0tsEyT_sUagBKonuQWTKe9PMeRosPdFjlyWZQK.OwQ4kR1RP3V HLuSe3MxFABdU0AZjC3ckxNcujOzQVWs66MKiGziuagKsREdUTPwsJCJVzkr eV_qRnOaUfzlH6KZ_F4uRvTsmlDv8_P8I9coOMp1lArvRbV_qnYjYi8kU95b GHscXqCya5pOXtk7QJu94SEHOmetk X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F References: <7c3473c2.1123b.13a23b635ef.Webtop.47@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <7c3473c2.1123b.13a23b635ef.Webtop.47@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <2D258C50-D61F-47F7-A878-F6FCF7D67D41@carlsonarts.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Subject: Re: LOOPING THEFT ALERT Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:12:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Man, someone who steals looping gear should have to listen to the same = music over and over again forever as punishment. Oh, wait. . . On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:01 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > That's just terrible Rick. >=20 > I hope they find the guy, recover the gear, and stake the perp over an = active ant hill for a week. >=20 > Passalong the sentiment to Mogli. >=20 > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 >> LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! >>=20 >> Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: >>=20 >> http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli = >>=20 >> Q-014316 - eventide eclipse >> Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : = 2.0 >> MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 >> Looperlative LP1 - >> Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 >> Roland AC-33 - zy90844st >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal = equipment from >> live loopers........I'm just sayin' >>=20 >> r. >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 00:23:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E61C2183463; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UA6EgZ3mDN6pAy3qDyT/NmKiZ6ec8qiSE9prg4fxkEM=; b=DYJgmNgVpLynchwvf/7Gfvn98JbHofhjLME8H+pRABMU38FjlQI5mbOM4yRF3jpuhN /FKgNlZNA/zBOa2YXm7hvG60Eib3Slvz1lqQ5XAXfRwvz2O9PTkYv2qiYcMmqJiA+WE2 VqHqpg22Pq/TRYtZ/g48dFR5DvJspOwB5TbX4d8f7lAFu8vLMUZXKlSpGJ0XrFwdwt7g aTgJgcVL4biPPTdfaAwncQAhnPGGvVY02IcJVkNyqnyZ4WWc5l029YIq0qbQ+YyK4IMn bqqfC8WfoaflrSvvz/fIbSdYOCGeuQ0oqdodkvxlB3NEsFmEnqz3DnGeV6TFnwu5hlMN JHtg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2D258C50-D61F-47F7-A878-F6FCF7D67D41@carlsonarts.com> References: <7c3473c2.1123b.13a23b635ef.Webtop.47@charter.net> <2D258C50-D61F-47F7-A878-F6FCF7D67D41@carlsonarts.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 02:23:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LOOPING THEFT ALERT From: Sergio Girardi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54a3e02a05bf204cb1ca6ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:23:42 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54a3e02a05bf204cb1ca6ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahahahah! :) I got it too. The idea of the repetition as a punishment :) Very Dante Alighieri. 2012/10/3 TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> > Man, someone who steals looping gear should have to listen to the same > music over and over again forever as punishment. Oh, wait. . . > > On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:01 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > > > That's just terrible Rick. > > > > I hope they find the guy, recover the gear, and stake the perp over an > active ant hill for a week. > > > > Passalong the sentiment to Mogli. > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > >> LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! > >> > >> Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli > >> > >> Q-014316 - eventide eclipse > >> Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : 2.0 > >> MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 > >> Looperlative LP1 - > >> Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 > >> Roland AC-33 - zy90844st > >> > >> > >> > >> There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal > equipment from > >> live loopers........I'm just sayin' > >> > >> r. > > > > > > --bcaec54a3e02a05bf204cb1ca6ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahahahah!
:)
I got it too. The idea of the repetition as a pu= nishment :)
Very Dante Alighieri.


2012/10/3 TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com>
Man, someone who steals looping gear should = have to listen to the same music over and over again forever as punishment.= =A0Oh, wait. . .

On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:01 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote:

> That's just terrible Rick.
>
> I hope they find the guy, recover the gear, and stake the perp over an= active ant hill for a week.
>
> Passalong the sentiment to Mogli.
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
>> LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!!
>>
>> Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains:
>>
>> h= ttp://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli <http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli><= br> >>
>> Q-014316 - eventide eclipse
>> Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version := 2.0
>> MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303
>> Looperlative LP1 -
>> Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863
>> Roland AC-33 - zy90844st
>>
>>
>>
>> There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who st= eal equipment from
>> live loopers........I'm just sayin'
>>
>> r.
>
>


--bcaec54a3e02a05bf204cb1ca6ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 00:25:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D04CB183463; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=lM99Qy7DSVptLJM23fHqGrsvtmHzLT0C7cSTqtLj2PM=; b=hNb0gnllnweSAksezNdZSYuUh5Qjwp2OlaERqVlmEtU3eNuHEimp8uHJzRDE9TSBZJ xAyaW82jgW2+YQLmmJFV/rBuIFIxY2PO7Xq9xU2hBWkQR49z7IKhwdw7Z7ChVPiITEEP 1BWVbPEcNVV3V339VB6zAAd3JVn+8bvkHmJujMTd8dhThIfCqKLG74nBsNlO1yBcWgwt aItW1+EqLtYQnP7QmrakuYHGpVl3u9CqwYtAXtGYwiLbdQ6KxjwT6jU8rFIUEm7kxbD/ Go8JbWLEJ9UtKVy45SlFawQaJ1fDrGo/MlS94Dg4bk4/Z824FTT4KvbZA2O6ZclYMnvm pvwA== Subject: Re: LOOPING THEFT ALERT References: <506B6A2C.4060509@cruzio.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <506B6A2C.4060509@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <4E7F69B2-AFC5-4917-94C7-E83E8CEE1F96@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 20:24:09 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:25:52 +0000 (UTC) I am so so sorry to hear this. So wrong.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Oct 2, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! >=20 > Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: >=20 > http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli >=20 > Q-014316 - eventide eclipse > Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : 2.0 > MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 > Looperlative LP1 - > Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 > Roland AC-33 - zy90844st >=20 >=20 >=20 > There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equi= pment from > live loopers........I'm just sayin' >=20 > r. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 00:27:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE661183463; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1383070181==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121003002654.1519.4737.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:26:56 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: LOOPING THEFT ALERT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1383070181== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You=20know=20how=20James=20Bond=20is=20007?=20Well,=20I'm=20l00p=20(which,= =20in=20code,=20spells=20loop).=20 I=20am=20the=20looping=20version=20of=20James=20Bond;=20I=20investigate=20t= hings=20related=20to=20looping,=20and=20use=20looping=20 to=20investigate=20things.=20For=20example,=20if=20there=20is=20a=20compute= r=20that=20is=20programmed=20to=20do=20terroristic=20things,=20 we=20send=20it=20into=20an=20infinite=20loop,=20causing=20it=20to=20overwor= k=20and=20shut=20down.=20So=20if=20you=20need=20me=20to=20spy=20on=20 looping-related=20cases=20(such=20as=20a=20looping=20gear=20theft),=20or=20= you=20need=20me=20to=20use=20a=20loop=20to=20try=20and=20stop=20 something=20from=20happening,=20just=20look=20for=20Secret=20Agent=20l00p. Tyler=20Z On=20Tue,=202=20Oct=202012=2017:12:13=20-0700,=20TripleOhNine=20wrote: >Man,=20someone=20who=20steals=20looping=20gear=20should=20have=20to=20list= en=20to=20the=20same=20music=20 >over=20and=20over=20again=20forever=20as=20punishment.=20=20Oh,=20wait.=20= .=20. > >On=20Oct=202,=202012,=20at=204:01=20PM,=20tEd=20=20kiLLiAn=20wrote: > >>That's=20just=20terrible=20Rick. >> >>I=20hope=20they=20find=20the=20guy,=20recover=20the=20gear,=20and=20stake= =20the=20perp=20over=20an=20active=20 >>ant=20hill=20for=20a=20week. >> >>Passalong=20the=20sentiment=20to=20Mogli. >> >>On=20Tue,=20Oct=202,=202012=20at=203:26=20PM,=20Rick=20Walker=20wrote: >> >>>LOOPING=20THEFT=20ALERT!!!! >>> >>>Stolen=20from=20Mogli=20in=20the=20Santa=20Cruz=20Mountains: >>> >>>http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli=20 >>> >>>Q-014316=20-=20eventide=20eclipse >>>Gordius=20Little=20Giant=20-=20LG,=20Serial=20Number=20:=200216=20Hardwa= re=20version=20:=202.0 >>>MOTU=20Traveler=20mk3=20-trav31002303 >>>Looperlative=20LP1=20- >>>Larrivee=20OMV-03mh=20-=20110863 >>>Roland=20AC-33=20-=20zy90844st >>> >>> >>> >>>There=20is=20a=20special=20circle=20in=20Purgatory=20set=20aside=20for= =20people=20who=20steal=20equipment=20 >>>from >>>live=20loopers........I'm=20just=20sayin' >>> >>>r. >> >> --===============1383070181==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 00:52:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B941183465; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <506B8C51.30903@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:52:33 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: looppool@cruzio.com CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? References: <6c4a86fdae8c6850e06ccbfb1d9e0578.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <6c4a86fdae8c6850e06ccbfb1d9e0578.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Just another quick note. Bob's plan is to ship to the closest locations of people who have already purchased the unit and are waiting and then a week later to send out to people who are further a field. Just so you know, he's not forgetting the people who invested early in the disastrous rev 1.0. They've really been holding up well and they have to work, I"m going to do my entire performance with them at Y2K12 in two weeks time. Rick Walker On 10/1/12 4:48 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > After extensive redesign of both hardware and software to fix the > problems that the first iteration of the LP-2 had and with a lot of > testing finished, > Bob has started to ship out the second rev of the LP-2 in the past week. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 01:29:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5707318345B; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 01:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7ccf2919-d5b4-475e-acae-1773fd0e1d4f_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.255.170] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: LOOPING THEFT ALERT Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 01:29:25 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20121003002654.1519.4737.levelstar.mail@everest>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2012 01:29:26.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[8686CF70:01CDA106] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 01:29:27 +0000 (UTC) --_7ccf2919-d5b4-475e-acae-1773fd0e1d4f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @ Tyler: Coooooooooool.... @ Rick: I can lend my Rang III to Mogli for as long as he needs. Should I t= ell him or should you? I can ship it to him and he will ship it to me when = he does not need it anymore. Ser > From: programmer651@comcast.net > Date: Tue=2C 2 Oct 2012 20:26:56 -0400 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > CC:=20 > Subject: Re: LOOPING THEFT ALERT >=20 > You know how James Bond is 007? Well=2C I'm l00p (which=2C in code=2C spe= lls loop).=20 > I am the looping version of James Bond=3B I investigate things related to= looping=2C and use looping=20 > to investigate things. For example=2C if there is a computer that is prog= rammed to do terroristic things=2C=20 > we send it into an infinite loop=2C causing it to overwork and shut down.= So if you need me to spy on=20 > looping-related cases (such as a looping gear theft)=2C or you need me to= use a loop to try and stop=20 > something from happening=2C just look for Secret Agent l00p. > Tyler Z > On Tue=2C 2 Oct 2012 17:12:13 -0700=2C TripleOhNine wrote: >=20 >=20 > >Man=2C someone who steals looping gear should have to listen to the same= music=20 > >over and over again forever as punishment. Oh=2C wait. .. . > > > >On Oct 2=2C 2012=2C at 4:01 PM=2C tEd kiLLiAn wrote: > > > >>That's just terrible Rick. > >> > >>I hope they find the guy=2C recover the gear=2C and stake the perp over= an active=20 > >>ant hill for a week. > >> > >>Passalong the sentiment to Mogli. > >> > >>On Tue=2C Oct 2=2C 2012 at 3:26 PM=2C Rick Walker wrote: > >> > >>>LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! > >>> > >>>Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: > >>> > >>>http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli > >>> > >>>Q-014316 - eventide eclipse > >>>Gordius Little Giant - LG=2C Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : 2= .0 > >>>MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 > >>>Looperlative LP1 - > >>>Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 > >>>Roland AC-33 - zy90844st > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal = equipment=20 > >>>from > >>>live loopers........I'm just sayin' > >>> > >>>r. > >> > >> >=20 = --_7ccf2919-d5b4-475e-acae-1773fd0e1d4f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ Tyler: Coooooooooool....

@ Rick: =3BI can =3Blend my= Rang III to Mogli for as long as he needs. Should I tell him or should you= ? I can ship it to him and he will ship it to me when he does not need it a= nymore.

Ser

>=3B From: programmer651@comcast.n= et
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 2 Oct 2012 20:26:56 -0400
>=3B To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B CC:
>=3B Subject: Re: LOOPING TH= EFT ALERT
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>=3B You know how James Bond is 007? Well=2C I'm = l00p (which=2C in code=2C spells loop).
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= = --_7ccf2919-d5b4-475e-acae-1773fd0e1d4f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 01:47:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32F5A183465; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 01:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 490 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:47:17 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=qhYw8uYrOB9KxcNCuDrAe/ 6Cjto=; b=HECsh3SWKV+FgTSWV2Jw/Key0vqkE2nD1Niob4fA3Rhw7WguO88un9 lAUGqj2is/uUfxhZgz5qJNvyuNmiO0HiVdjLzST0G+BFdaZ7abl/dw8Q4/fqISjT 3zO1N9ANBEDpliPscqQ7B1v2sN3G+i7+JScvjdWAfxWJg3r/OF5OU= X-Sasl-enc: p2Hkd17KD1LxBeUG83Q2kZIcYIURwu7wvIxJj1+PPZjI 1349228346 Message-ID: <506B9739.7090508@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:39:05 -0700 From: Rob Campbell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LOOPING THEFT ALERT / LP1 serials? References: <506B6A2C.4060509@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <506B6A2C.4060509@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <26DE4B.A.A_E.lk5aQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 01:47:18 +0000 (UTC) yikes, so sorry to hear that ! guess its an awkward moment to offer my LP1 for sale, heh. (I really was about to...) btw - do they have serial numbers? I never thought of it. Mine is racked so I can't see the top/bottom right now but I don't see anything on the back. Rob C Seattle On 10/2/2012 3:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! > > Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: > > http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli > > Q-014316 - eventide eclipse > Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : 2.0 > MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 > Looperlative LP1 - > Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 > Roland AC-33 - zy90844st > > > > There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal > equipment from > live loopers........I'm just sayin' > > r. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 02:13:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA337183462; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 02:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=fEDBLh24CK8U8kgimV/s2WOsdDKcenp0k8deLxSzfFw=; b=Flq0sBo+K5IA7Ars98+ET+ImFOmAG6Gnn7J0RPYVgnQiQ8NR2g1i7NHV4hDGHaNkqE QG80Tdbef4W9qx3Ad5PM11IMKJO5Zug4+SMsmyB1JKhsNiXiZrPbUC9r8UntG6Gs8wci 49ep2oVwuoup6JLfwsfEeZWIeLNu9YZGIyfqWeGaXD6v/1K3bafuPMkGFEEW4Ic4rc4E XTfl4gm+fPBPUHlat70OwxQz6mdhf4qn3N/KESPMCKTTheC2IcXQoNqebV+JmufXRWDB 5oSNV/tEyWRVZzIFO4lnw+iHV6wzKSkaGdf7RToEdsyAx3vwTgMH25pB+CqemmW0wcoW M6vw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121003002654.1519.4737.levelstar.mail@everest> References: <20121003002654.1519.4737.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:13:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LOOPING THEFT ALERT From: Art Simon Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043892a3d6f7df04cb1e2f51 Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 02:13:40 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043892a3d6f7df04cb1e2f51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers. There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers. There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers. There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers.There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal equipment from live loopers On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Tyler wrote: > You know how James Bond is 007? Well, I'm l00p (which, in code, spells > loop). > I am the looping version of James Bond; I investigate things related to > looping, and use looping > to investigate things. For example, if there is a computer that is > programmed to do terroristic things, > we send it into an infinite loop, causing it to overwork and shut down. So > if you need me to spy on > looping-related cases (such as a looping gear theft), or you need me to > use a loop to try and stop > something from happening, just look for Secret Agent l00p. > Tyler Z > On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:12:13 -0700, TripleOhNine wrote: > > > >Man, someone who steals looping gear should have to listen to the same > music > >over and over again forever as punishment. Oh, wait. . . > > > >On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:01 PM, tEd kiLLiAn wrote: > > > >>That's just terrible Rick. > >> > >>I hope they find the guy, recover the gear, and stake the perp over an > active > >>ant hill for a week. > >> > >>Passalong the sentiment to Mogli. > >> > >>On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> > >>>LOOPING THEFT ALERT!!!! > >>> > >>>Stolen from Mogli in the Santa Cruz Mountains: > >>> > >>>http://www.facebook.com/eric.mogli > >>> > >>>Q-014316 - eventide eclipse > >>>Gordius Little Giant - LG, Serial Number : 0216 Hardware version : 2.0 > >>>MOTU Traveler mk3 -trav31002303 > >>>Looperlative LP1 - > >>>Larrivee OMV-03mh - 110863 > >>>Roland AC-33 - zy90844st > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>There is a special circle in Purgatory set aside for people who steal > equipment > >>>from > >>>live loopers........I'm just sayin' > >>> > >>>r. > >> > >> > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com --f46d043892a3d6f7df04cb1e2f51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a special circle in Purgato= ry set aside for people who steal equipment from
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:12:13 -0700, TripleOhNine wr= ote:


>Man, someone who steals looping gear should have to listen to the same = music
>over and over again forever as punishment. =A0Oh, wait. . .
>
>On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:01 PM, tEd =A0kiLLiAn wrote:
>
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>>
>>On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 a= t 3:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
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>>
>>




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= Art Simon
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--f46d043892a3d6f7df04cb1e2f51-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 00:50:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4653A183453; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 00:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4950 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:50:53 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2E1DDFDB-407F-4571-ADA9-CD44F284720D@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Revfever Subject: OT: CASH Music Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:28:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 00:50:54 +0000 (UTC) FYI from here in Portlandia. This looks intriguing and possibly may be helpful to many struggling and indy musicians and even small labels. http://cashmusic.org/ http://cashmusic.org/about/ Cheers- Rev.Fever Portlandia http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 05:14:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A896618345B; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 05:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=er3iT8gIsuY/sPNVHdpy5/QqAfSxI1vhsaCf8vZPfvo=; b=C0+nCHRbszwh85m3GgRR65X6HHLmBs+HgA2vKQ6f4Dk95I7Ig8v1MBP54GhNn+FLBi V2GzQSW4YwYMXE/5xOZ7i/uUdqABwX6j6FiiZiOdA94IgcT+nlsa1DUuC+MtueCVO/ZD 5pDpKQ8+9IblqV08df8/YtWWd7DSADakN3VI8eroa79Gr4xbPLOZW2uS6gI7f72hqhS9 EM9y1m1sR853emP3VBnlfHciWIbnE5lnPG9MJnFOF01M9ypgPQHBTsCeDbZU2Ql02vMI fW/jsYhtV1hpESkJULNi11dfjEujR7eZy9lJA5rSEjERqgx8/LfZgzxnKDN6ZrGesUqL Qg3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:14:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: soliciting participation in "Touch the Loopers" From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 05:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Tim, I'm sorry I can't make the festival this year (work is sending me to Miami), but it's good to see other people running with the "touch the gear" idea. If you search on youtube for "Touch the Gear Outsound", you'll see some clips from the events I organized at the Outsound Festival over the last several years. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: > As part of the International Live Looping Festival this year, a "Touch the > Loopers" event will be held at my home in San Jose on Thursday October 18, > starting at 7:30pm. It's inspired by "Touch the Gear" events that have > become a tradition of the Outsound Music Summit in San Francisco. At these > events, people bring, demonstrate, and allow other people to play with their > gear - often experimental DIY instruments - in a very casual environment. > Obviously, this "Touch the Loopers" event will focus on looping gear > (including visual loopers, of which there will be at least 2). At the > beginning of the evening, some time will be allocated for brief talks/demos, > but most of the evening will be available for people to get hands-on > experience with whatever equipment shows up. I also expect and hope that > some of the casual conversations will include brainstorming of looping > things that don't yet exist, but should. > > If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, software, commercial or > custom) that you'd like to bring and let people play with, please contact > me@timthompson.com > > ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 11:02:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17C5F183453; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 11:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=ICSi4iG1vEjtvPR7ZhcdkgFoD5AA8ZeQ8QSAl4XzN0g=; b=uSiEzfQCX8MFar/nb63XxGwXdJ+G/JsMQJ7VM8tprcLV4ovU7lKhVrG3a465Jr8UOH tAaxj3q0v7ismsfP0T5STnhC4cWKpkDPjzh8qV3j/V1LGgntly895QySOXosUugt6yXS qkcLA8NfmbH8CypL0A8OgX5TANqZqpF9rZm2PBYuUl0eNEa702YzjANm2diJuFgfjGSw 2RgepPX4+BuyKt9RvFPbrFqOsoJfc+bvlxjYt5G6oh7eBc6NR/JdUy05sVGhUPmsI6Uj VCZGpBM1Ysa5p+44NQCdFnR/EFWveKjHW01lnVS9ruSxo+DuIHW+reXQc2kuzxDDfasd 0H3Q== From: Philip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Looperlative LP1 for sale $1000 including shipping Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:02:10 +0900 Message-Id: To: loopers delight delight Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 11:02:16 +0000 (UTC) I've decided to sell my LP1. It the purple faced version and has never = left my smoke-free studio. It is in very good condition. There are no = clearly visible scratches on the faceplate--it doesn't even have = scratches from mounting screws. The top and the bottom of the unit have = scratches, but nothing you can see when it is in your rack.=20 It comes with firmware 1.34 installed. =46rom what I understand, this is = the most stable version. Price is a flat $1000 dollars. I will pay PP fees and shipping via EMS = from Osaka, Japan. If the buyer wants to use FedEx, DHL or UPS, I will = pay the first 100 dollars of shipping. It will of course be carefully = packed. I have perfect feedback as j_pressure on eBay, I am also = block190 on Yahoo Japan if you can read Japanese. Payment can be by PayPal or bank transfer. Please feel free to email me with any questions you may have. If you = have questions regarding LP1s in general, Rick Walker and Simeon are = much more knowledgable than me. If you have questions about this unit in = particular, please feel free to contact me.=20 Philip= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 16:29:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B23B18345C; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 245938.28087.bm@omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1349368138; bh=0Q2SQAdOKzVa8ChdhE47r3fNr5Lv+OER5tQj0Ok0rOc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=B0TMjuVD/mmaQRwB6h5lN+fKdMe08XwAV1WAH1MfLiXE9EDX8MUeIexlt4idUlXz5cYt0RfGN1ghchrKfv+ms+BEv/cFC2qbyNnmVUPlGB1YOtXpHrnfwVJ39Y59FaW9Z7nYjkF9tM8HHupwsarFAbYa5FraDyhD8PtmttfS1Ic= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 8kjMWbEVM1lORv72kyxHHRJFQNwEJuD8Y5uQJ.aOMiJU02K ZtEgEfDNhXzsof2gJELDG_aIwc8nFd_wJZ2bqLIvAMYJwZEoV.iU_lLUeY.t ewWnHwG2NqWSJKNdvyppWOYoGe9__mHHEYaMGJ418UbqThTHm8mf9.7cnt2y 0MQ8APnsamLRedHH27cJ8rhq6__wwYft_gP.BdZRXoEw2q8pfo7m0LGes6zM QnYRLaXtdFbxiADbcgVH7HanojK9lGd0iM5sUQROko9QrGn.Yd1oLTLiS01r vch1h8W1efouPx7JvPj54N3wU7sS04QVq.SYjZmOSji716HAmZKjEq84mLjs yQFgbjy1WrfIdzxNlNkShrTYfBGcNsI.f_i6zB73QUJaGLGhTRhvPsxeHSPt jO0oNM6d07I_bP1YR4lV_G4RBrm1J68_Qn12YYyE53eUY0sllwTzZ63rrGy5 s1KQ80VZ2S8CnTJIu_JKJ X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- From: Laurie Amat Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F55FD5DE-F0A2-4419-9664-7395408BDA37" Subject: Re: soliciting participation in "Touch the Loopers" Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 18:23:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: <7jh83B.A.bJH.LlbbQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:28:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_F55FD5DE-F0A2-4419-9664-7395408BDA37 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 HI Tim,=20 I'll be there and I'd be happy to bring my little DL-4. I do some crazy = things with it, and even though it's not high high tech, it's fun to = show people how they can make crazy voice work. I might have the new QuNeo from Keith McMillan, but won't know for a few = weeks.=20 So, if this isn't too simple, I'm in.=20 Laurie On Oct 1, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: > As part of the International Live Looping Festival this year, a "Touch = the Loopers" event will be held at my home in San Jose on Thursday = October 18, starting at 7:30pm. It's inspired by "Touch the Gaar" = events that have become a tradition of the Outsound Music Summit in San = Francisco. At these events, people bring, demonstrate, and allow other = people to play with their gear - often experimental DIY instruments - in = a very casual environment. Obviously, this "Touch the Loopers" event = will focus on looping gear (including visual loopers, of which there = will be at least 2). At the beginning of the evening, some time will be = allocated for brief talks/demos, but most of the evening will be = available for people to get hands-on experience with whatever equipment = shows up. I also expect and hope that some of the casual conversations = will include brainstorming of looping things that don't yet exist, but = should. >=20 > If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, software, commercial = or custom) that you'd like to bring and let people play with, please = contact me@timthompson.com=20 >=20 > ...Tim... --Apple-Mail=_F55FD5DE-F0A2-4419-9664-7395408BDA37 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 HI = Tim, 

I'll be there and I'd be happy to bring my = little DL-4. I do some crazy things with it, and even though it's not = high high tech, it's fun to show people how they can make crazy voice = work.

I might have the new QuNeo from Keith = McMillan, but won't know for a few = weeks. 

So, if this isn't too simple, I'm = in. 

Laurie


On Oct 1, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tim Thompson = wrote:

As part of the International Live Looping Festival this = year, a "Touch the Loopers" event will be held at my home in San Jose on = Thursday October 18, starting at 7:30pm.  It's inspired by "Touch = the Gaar" events that have become a tradition of the Outsound Music = Summit in San Francisco.  At these events, people bring, = demonstrate, and allow other people to play with their gear - often = experimental DIY instruments - in a very casual environment. =  Obviously, this "Touch the Loopers" event will focus on looping = gear (including visual loopers, of which there will be at least 2). =  At the beginning of the evening, some time will be allocated for = brief talks/demos, but most of the evening will be available for people = to get hands-on experience with whatever equipment shows up.  I = also expect and hope that some of the casual conversations will include = brainstorming of looping things that don't yet exist, but should.

 If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, = software, commercial or custom) that you'd like to bring and let people = play with, please contact me@timthompson.com 

     ...Tim...

= --Apple-Mail=_F55FD5DE-F0A2-4419-9664-7395408BDA37-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 17:42:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E74F183464; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <506DCA54.5070005@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:41:40 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:42:16 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Unknowing." The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 17:44:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB73E183461; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=4142F+3NtzL6RkDsvkbHO18U4nkBtRJh7XtZqvBkRh8=; b=CXrvnOmYb9rDh2BC1UNAJySyZTV6s2PxZiOMqqTz4vf44WZjOHnU8F+dAaji/4Mg3k 5xiSfiQfXsvPMfup4nS3oFBixzFi3BoaUxa/zrsxgOiwvZnN70xtFinSNsbGXL6aFQHa 0uzR0ALSXYmATSIrMsFK1JMaNgpTX8wh67g5UNbfLgwkTnFUqC6aLY/VEVhyq7EBZd+y NGqm60A1xI08KkzQzt19m60ra7DWPJw4kP0tWS1UE5vqKTzHDyCRlanefxY4tHVteBLY 3RLobCQ+nlVI2+GoBOCumZ3Sl6Rrilx5MYc1GNGWj1r3y2UVKN7vl+PG1GDDN/olCl7c fWlQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 10:44:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043d64bd9d5a5504cb3f4e57 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnHbCNBIwuJvCF1QBaS6Cj9koYvwUctm6xZbEkn2D41K6kFO7/V2Vhp9UzzQ/kNbxRj8uHQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:44:30 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043d64bd9d5a5504cb3f4e57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > They've really been holding up well and they have to work, I"m going to > do my entire performance > with them at Y2K12 in two weeks time > People will also be able to play with the LP-2 when Rick demonstrates it at the "Touch the Loopers" event (Oct 18). ...Tim... --f46d043d64bd9d5a5504cb3f4e57 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
They've r= eally been holding up well and they have to work, I"m going to
do my entire performance
with them at Y2K12 in two weeks time

Pe= ople will also be able to play with the LP-2 when Rick demonstrates it at t= he "Touch the Loopers" event (Oct 18).

=A0 =A0 =A0...Tim...=A0
--f46d043d64bd9d5a5504cb3f4e57-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 13:30:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B73F4183460; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GVuoziftNAzRhYFlc6HH4Yo2HO+if/xxLOXGCcYwAY8=; b=GgJaV1j3UjF0RZIySd4moQskNf1fT9sA8pvO1F7Qr6rdshVrtRVy5J+GN4QH8mffoA sg7UU98G0xEGjRNqXefFYFuDCEQD3uSfcBnKxqdU/eVyOpBE7oaCkWYx67zMwu45S/UD 7i7prSjar3RarSWsX/RiWsE9O4gWyyJBhTlKWQ6r2c+E1/k1Tl+IiCcj7YqnQHqYH8fu XogllLWLUdj2iXS7LoGtl1GkCGSmxCf9MKdzdb7MR7aNhXVnH6cp7Dado641sQHB5sHF 4yPaP4hzxTkXIX79AOB299gRxzt7YJAKWEay1OENsKIu2+uGKwXdRCp5ImglvPwKdP+U Cgdw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:30:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: 2nd media music album released - lots of looping! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:30:22 +0000 (UTC) I just came back from UK to learn that my second B2B media music album was released on Oct 3. A quite inspiring project to work with. 25 tracks utilizing many kind of live looping techniques and odd dynamic signal routing; all that experimenting was firmly based either in a heart centered organic emotion or a strictly formalized compositional idea. A big thanks to AMG Scandinavia / ADAPT for the partnership! Mirroring for free non commercial streamed listening at http://soundcloud.com/pboy/sets/science-technology-music-1 The music is now available for media producers in these countries: Australia, Austria, Baltik countries, Belgium, China, Taiwan, Finland, France, Germany, Hongkong, Israel, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Swedem, Denmark, Ireland, Fidji Islands, New Zeeland, Luxemburg, Malaysia, Neitherlands, UK & USA. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 14:48:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6004A183462; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0457924277==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121005144834.10656.54424.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:48:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: 2nd media music album released - lots of looping! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============0457924277== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are=20you=20talking=20about=20Science=20and=20Technology=20Music?=20The=20o= nes=20that=20began=20with=2048k2=20on=20 Dropbox?=20I=20was=20just=20listening=20to=20that=20recently!=20Here's=20a= =20story=20that=20you=20might=20like,=20Per!=20I=20take=20an=20art=20 class.=20The=20teacher=20asked=20if=20any=20of=20us=20had=20a=20music=20pla= ylist=20to=20play=20in=20the=20background.=20One=20of=20the=20 days=20(I=20think=20it=20was=20three=20days=20ago),=20I=20picked=20Science= =20and=20Technology=20Music!=20Your=20 noncommercial=20album!=20That=20was=20before=20the=20release,=20I=20believe= !=20I'm=20going=20to=20tell=20my=20friend=20in=20the=20looping=20 scene=20about=20this=20fantastic=20album=20you=20did. Tyler=20Z On=20Fri,=205=20Oct=202012=2015:30:21=20+0200,=20Per=20Boysen=20wrote: >I=20just=20came=20back=20from=20UK=20to=20learn=20that=20my=20second=20B2B= =20media=20music=20album >was=20released=20on=20Oct=203.=20A=20quite=20=20inspiring=20project=20to= =20work=20with.=2025 >tracks=20utilizing=20many=20kind=20of=20live=20looping=20techniques=20and= =20odd=20dynamic >signal=20routing;=20all=20that=20experimenting=20was=20firmly=20based=20ei= ther=20in=20a >heart=20centered=20organic=20emotion=20or=20a=20strictly=20formalized=20co= mpositional >idea.=20A=20big=20thanks=20to=20AMG=20Scandinavia=20/=20ADAPT=20for=20the= =20partnership! > >Mirroring=20for=20free=20non=20commercial=20streamed=20listening=20at >http://soundcloud.com/pboy/sets/science-technology-music-1 > >The=20music=20is=20now=20available=20for=20media=20producers=20in=20these= =20countries: >Australia,=20Austria,=20Baltik=20countries,=20Belgium,=20China,=20Taiwan,= =20Finland, >France,=20Germany,=20Hongkong,=20Israel,=20Italy,=20Norway,=20Portugal,=20= Singapore, >South=20Korea,=20Spain,=20Swedem,=20Denmark,=20Ireland,=20Fidji=20Islands,= =20New >Zeeland,=20Luxemburg,=20Malaysia,=20Neitherlands,=20UK=20&=20USA. > >Greetings=20from=20Sweden > >Per=20Boysen >www.perboysen.com >http://www.youtube.com/perboysen --===============0457924277==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 14:59:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56A27183462; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lmvzcz0ChH6MAUVmihg4dotv4J3hFPaj+48p9gj+h/8=; b=ZjM8Dz4LvtmjWOxTSptaxE7z44QydZ/48I0k685FcLrZ8kCX27eBaZ14Kei3K1V9VF fMEtyikQ8liUSNLGMrbBS26a1jvkESPfKQOcZkEJKrT8aUxFJonpTY3iaDeAsN0qgd6M 9iyA70sefCkUkoCSTIPNHriOSnAR54yohmDR6qDeuuUvtM7bbnTTsJNJd9otmfUgrSEW sGlFAx0oYKulJmFWksMjEf5m/yxLfQr7TgAUjh1ytrm6j+r71kW7it57NciNe0WzQXNC h16k4jfaVmw3kdqSP81Xfiw8VZObUJUOneEan+Ds/+wWIrRXZ8Lj1WXvojHnkvspfVDG fw4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20121005144834.10656.54424.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:58:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2nd media music album released - lots of looping! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi Tyler, I'm glad, and honored, that you like the this music. Nice to hear it works well as background in an art class, because the pro side of it is to be used in film, television and radio for background that gives a specific vibe. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Tyler wrote: > Are you talking about Science and Technology Music? The ones that began with 48k2 on > Dropbox? I was just listening to that recently! Here's a story that you might like, Per! I take an art > class. The teacher asked if any of us had a music playlist to play in the background. One of the > days (I think it was three days ago), I picked Science and Technology Music! Your > noncommercial album! That was before the release, I believe! I'm going to tell my friend in the looping > scene about this fantastic album you did. > Tyler Z > On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:30:21 +0200, Per Boysen wrote: > > >>I just came back from UK to learn that my second B2B media music album >>was released on Oct 3. A quite inspiring project to work with. 25 >>tracks utilizing many kind of live looping techniques and odd dynamic >>signal routing; all that experimenting was firmly based either in a >>heart centered organic emotion or a strictly formalized compositional >>idea. A big thanks to AMG Scandinavia / ADAPT for the partnership! >> >>Mirroring for free non commercial streamed listening at >>http://soundcloud.com/pboy/sets/science-technology-music-1 >> >>The music is now available for media producers in these countries: >>Australia, Austria, Baltik countries, Belgium, China, Taiwan, Finland, >>France, Germany, Hongkong, Israel, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Singapore, >>South Korea, Spain, Swedem, Denmark, Ireland, Fidji Islands, New >>Zeeland, Luxemburg, Malaysia, Neitherlands, UK & USA. >> >>Greetings from Sweden >> >>Per Boysen >>www.perboysen.com >>http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 15:10:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B1B018345C; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0457924277==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121005151016.10931.54424.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:10:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: 2nd media music album released - lots of looping! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============0457924277== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=20actually=20do=20a=20piano=20cover=20of=20Track=201.=20I=20listened=20to= =20track=201=20off=20Science=20and=20Technology=20 Music=20very=20carefully,=20and=20memorized=20the=20notes;=20I=20can=20play= =20it=20on=20a=20piano!=20If=20you=20want=20to=20hear=20 my=20cover=20of=20your=20Track=201=20from=20Science=20and=20Technology=20Mu= sic,=20I=20can=20record=20it. Tyler=20Z On=20Fri,=205=20Oct=202012=2016:58:59=20+0200,=20Per=20Boysen=20wrote: >Hi=20Tyler, > >I'm=20glad,=20and=20honored,=20that=20you=20like=20the=20this=20music.=20N= ice=20to=20hear=20it >works=20well=20as=20background=20in=20an=20art=20class,=20because=20the=20= pro=20side=20of=20it >is=20to=20be=20used=20in=20film,=20television=20and=20radio=20for=20backgr= ound=20that=20gives >a=20specific=20vibe. > >Greetings=20from=20Sweden > >Per=20Boysen >www.perboysen.com >http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > >On=20Fri,=20Oct=205,=202012=20at=204:48=20PM,=20Tyler=20=20wrote: >>Are=20you=20talking=20about=20Science=20and=20Technology=20Music?=20The= =20ones=20that=20began=20with=20 >>48k2=20on >>Dropbox?=20I=20was=20just=20listening=20to=20that=20recently!=20Here's=20= a=20story=20that=20you=20might=20 >>like,=20Per!=20I=20take=20an=20art >>class.=20The=20teacher=20asked=20if=20any=20of=20us=20had=20a=20music=20p= laylist=20to=20play=20in=20the=20 >>background.=20One=20of=20the >>days=20(I=20think=20it=20was=20three=20days=20ago),=20I=20picked=20Scienc= e=20and=20Technology=20Music!=20 >>Your >>noncommercial=20album!=20That=20was=20before=20the=20release,=20I=20belie= ve!=20I'm=20going=20to=20tell=20 >>my=20friend=20in=20the=20looping >>scene=20about=20this=20fantastic=20album=20you=20did. >>Tyler=20Z >>On=20Fri,=205=20Oct=202012=2015:30:21=20+0200,=20Per=20Boysen=20wrote: >> >> >>>I=20just=20came=20back=20from=20UK=20to=20learn=20that=20my=20second=20B= 2B=20media=20music=20album >>>was=20released=20on=20Oct=203.=20A=20quite=20=20inspiring=20project=20to= =20work=20with.=2025 >>>tracks=20utilizing=20many=20kind=20of=20live=20looping=20techniques=20an= d=20odd=20dynamic >>>signal=20routing;=20all=20that=20experimenting=20was=20firmly=20based=20= either=20in=20a >>>heart=20centered=20organic=20emotion=20or=20a=20strictly=20formalized=20= compositional >>>idea.=20A=20big=20thanks=20to=20AMG=20Scandinavia=20/=20ADAPT=20for=20th= e=20partnership! >>> >>>Mirroring=20for=20free=20non=20commercial=20streamed=20listening=20at >>>http://soundcloud.com/pboy/sets/science-technology-music-1 >>> >>>The=20music=20is=20now=20available=20for=20media=20producers=20in=20thes= e=20countries: >>>Australia,=20Austria,=20Baltik=20countries,=20Belgium,=20China,=20Taiwan= ,=20Finland, >>>France,=20Germany,=20Hongkong,=20Israel,=20Italy,=20Norway,=20Portugal,= =20Singapore, >>>South=20Korea,=20Spain,=20Swedem,=20Denmark,=20Ireland,=20Fidji=20Island= s,=20New >>>Zeeland,=20Luxemburg,=20Malaysia,=20Neitherlands,=20UK=20&=20USA. >>> >>>Greetings=20from=20Sweden >>> >>>Per=20Boysen >>>www.perboysen.com >>>http://www.youtube.com/perboysen --===============0457924277==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 03:17:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60DDC18345C; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 03:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <506FA296.4080006@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 23:16:38 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2ozgbB.A.hGG.GL6bQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 03:17:26 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, October 6 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 19:44:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E86E18345B; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=l7u75MHkT+4QWfiX/HxwPutZChJ7fJE2ZHFd1nmCyDc=; b=TagJ51ohFzoasS786PCOmjmnlteSqh+50bv9vhcoNj0aaIV//kazyXxlcEEE1qXDpp 4CPrVsqpuPUYYXkYioAgof0n/yDx6q+cIg10ahcb1KXSsyro7228MotIlaksxpYC3Cuy pZE0COvuhKUanuD5h7lBDH9e+cuxUF6iF5Ib7iFD20viwWaxcyh998kBFyaV9KrNBAT0 EHzijRXPUYdWbgdwWn8sq40foUmGptlHs6K00x3jyqBMARGtWq1KG462sfa0KTbeurwj 01Kkb/d8awvUJ9ggVpmuPOy3k1mE44ELVXZ+o2ee7qSV8yy86hDJHTyRdA1tFnBQI6Ud 54vA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:43:56 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: I7MF1jntnPKCKuxbT6jQnlsPzAs Message-ID: Subject: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043891afafee0e04cb693625 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:44:18 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043891afafee0e04cb693625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The question is all in the subject really. Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with ALL my music applications, except Logic. Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play. Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant get it to go away, therfore cant play. Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu is there, but no window. Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But weirdly its only happening on audio apps!! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --f46d043891afafee0e04cb693625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The question is all in the subject really.
Since installing Mountain Lio= n last week I've had no end of trouble with ALL my music applications, = except Logic.
Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't pla= y.
Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant ge= t it to go away, therfore cant play.
Reaper doesn't open at all, say= s its "building interface, and top menu is there, but no window.


Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more = like interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But= weirdly its only happening on audio apps!!




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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.c= om/photos/24478662@N00/

--f46d043891afafee0e04cb693625-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 19:52:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA10C18345B; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pKsURNjvMSPXldUNTz4tFi7KLrL5Tr3K19iI+lS+rbw=; b=ON8sOSQYkrW/2nNct1YaETgOmAfA19e7qLHq9GaIhjBhmnbeFbVtMsS5eyCAvkqj8w HydKeY4O8EemzaTT2SaquH8uh5k+RaCR/jKNSC6VJxD7gxAJ41gK+zGWeRkHJqxiRnhO 4lfE6FnTJy9TWE/IfuH/uBKmsUYhmEtvyYo7+PcGLu6yxqrvRyKX5hR1XPvQkYbwkInN EPuhyPDMlM6dyIURbunMexwULoWt0QtfSsJqSRXz398zkEER+UYhChELAnzBJQEa0DX5 8g6h1KyTaTlzg4jw1ifRuhlsVKuF2ImwHaoBblLIrLjvttAvFSDdJupmfcDF729FEu+K seXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:52:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <18dUwD.A.mtH.RwIcQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Not me, since I still use Lion, but I've heard from many people that Mountain Lion is not yet recommendable for audio work. I recently got some minor issues even in Lion, subtle audio artefacts. I heard them damned artefacts on stage when playing in London a few days back... I have no idea what causes this, but in my case it must be some of the recent minor OS upgrades. I wish Apple would buy me a Fractal Audio Air Fx2 as compensation! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:43 PM, mark francombe wrote: > The question is all in the subject really. > Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with ALL > my music applications, except Logic. > Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play. > Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant get > it to go away, therfore cant play. > Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu is > there, but no window. > > > Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like > interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But > weirdly its only happening on audio apps!! > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 20:55:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0012183451; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ZoIB6I8BEcMPKxzl74JAWTebeBZl4QZKTlGXgInnf2EO4RP8vwMIUI3fIkzzJW7p; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:55:26 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-862565551==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec791710accacf26839e82da7650fef77e65350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:55:51 +0000 (UTC) --============_-862565551==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I do this for a living, hence I'm on 10.6.8... >The question is all in the subject really. >Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble >with ALL my music applications, except Logic. >Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play. >Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I >cant get it to go away, therfore cant play. >Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top >menu is there, but no window. > > >Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more >like interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to >that? But weirdly its only happening on audio apps!! > > > > >-- >Mark Francombe >www.markfrancombe.com >www.ordoabkhao.com >http://vimeo.com/user825094 >http://www.looop.no >twitter @markfrancombe >http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-862565551==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on M

I do this for a living, hence I'm on 10.6.8...

The question is all in the subject really.
Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with ALL my music applications, except Logic.
Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play.
Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant get it to go away, therfore cant play.
Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu is there, but no window.


Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But weirdly its only happening on audio apps!!




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-862565551==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 23:32:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 675E418345A; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=sQaLLZTFrJyn1FmpuxZIumuTW0IeiEnq2xX9f40zFfk=; b=XPZ7g5EJ6sR4AIT8/djUPVKfgsXdMnnL1hXhB6E4VS5LcP8y+dkqU/dML7s/A06FGf 1CGq90YHlglJCEfj8oVAfwej0aUQfbGPtEmQWt1T/87U5ldw79GtjUIFiftyGuqHykKA ABWldupXbuku8KaOCxtXNnqjEriVMH7fw6KuB5MZNcUGMZY59qffnJergxA1T7tbh+5+ 3mnSVQ6DEl8Z9gXA5BUPpOaeQBrQ6Am15u3cXD1dxqh2bTyI+YQ8N1ebTTDRiW0TRNTL djqvo5EgiQwr+7hcoE1bRs4HhdA0OGnrBxpQw3QcQaDqvq3HHG7c5lT3z8ck2U1VYwC4 RA9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 01:32:03 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4lAQZYEW0T8Z5yO8uuuP7Tj-9LU Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66fd298a189104cb6c66ec Resent-Message-ID: <4TAuWC.A.ggC.J-LcQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:32:25 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b66fd298a189104cb6c66ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok.. no one had any issues then.. damn... just me then... Rats!... Its nothing to do with artifacts just that some programs wont work... as I said is almost def not a sound/related issue... And didnt understand the purpose of your comment actually Charlie... Do what for a living? write on computers? Cos Im a profrssional film-maker... and Im on Mountain Lion... Whats 10.6.8.. the Holy Grail of Mac OS=B4s...? Which one was that? Certainly, Im sure my machine was working much much better a few updates ago... Kinda Snow Leopard time... Things sure got sluggish for me with Lion, and Mountain Lion, well.. nuff said... Now Amiga Workbench... Now THAT was an OS! M On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Charles Zwicky wro= te: > ** > > I do this for a living, hence I'm on 10.6.8... > > The question is all in the subject really. > Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with > ALL my music applications, except Logic. > Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play. > Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant > get it to go away, therfore cant play. > Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu is > there, but no window. > > > Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like > interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But > weirdly its only happening on audio apps!! > > > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > > > ** > > -- > > ** > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b66fd298a189104cb6c66ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok.. no one had any issues then.. damn... just me then... Rats!...

= Its nothing to do with artifacts just that some programs wont work... as I = said is almost def not a sound/related issue...

And didnt understand= the purpose of your comment actually Charlie... Do what for a living? writ= e on computers? Cos Im a profrssional film-maker... and Im on Mountain Lion= ... Whats 10.6.8.. the Holy Grail of Mac OS=B4s...? Which one was that? Cer= tainly, Im sure my machine was working much much better a few updates ago..= . Kinda Snow Leopard time... Things sure got sluggish for me with Lion, and= Mountain Lion, well.. nuff said...
Now Amiga Workbench... Now THAT was an OS!

M

On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@= earthlink.net> wrote:

I do this for a living, hence I'm on 10.6.8...

The question is all in the subject really.
Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with ALL my music applications, except Logic.
Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play.
Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant get it to go away, therfore cant play.
Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu is there, but no window.


Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But weirdly its only happening on audio apps!!




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/


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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://www.looop.no
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--047d7b66fd298a189104cb6c66ec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 23:41:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39B5818345C; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Uj2a+qDjLmmtSfnvK5kPxae+ulCqWbnarQqdM5rBCcI=; b=O6qdZsVCRZSzfSXHHq/bN3p3D+Ep32J8dOc3IeW+eSMdCHL0BEE66NnUgDFBNy+N5Y TOrtKYW0a51A3KFSQ24LV2wT0Kghr4neilBKwF4KbQp71umsWNMjOSg9nQQ03K5BRFqd qcfWd05U/4kLVe5ZCCbNSeiWyWEpLVO2ZK/tw68vOa+jyH7teFX2AgkriF+I2hyWhY7q mnKdlM64Z1ImO9yhBgkp2y2B2/ur9iImX436i/6JPCMkochmootFHwxgBoDiUmM9Mg6w f8r0NM4W/RWyAyXAA/MOBf3uyKFJaldd81LwljuFTAdZ9QjXUjhB9X5Y5OIDVqY5W73o IAhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 01:41:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:41:58 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, mark francombe wrote: > ok.. no one had any issues then.. damn... just me then... Rats!... Wrong! Many people have those issues. It is a topic discussed among users but I have not heard any one yet knowing what exactly is causing the problems. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 00:01:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76E2818345C; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :x-gm-message-state; bh=IRNTmMf/3cJ2bzqlfE60YVFpWb4kM7LQrDl5XWp2TYA=; b=MQ5jqZYi/tKvxkWf2WOzs9ahDRGo8LS5oefmP0+n+V6dYZ/vBYXC9HFgpyGQVxTknP 3b08Y8BxT5BaLB2LgITudHhsJKhCOiL73FaJvYx1KS6QbIAAHQNaQmWvSwbSyQAtzVze DNpPmYdRmW7rQ8LDC4j8nly742TIuMnENXp1RQ59nOecw18xRVo4R3IoJvdUogxtDHmx OCEvEV8DXvCbldoiH4/UBehPJk2GZAyekRHIHurQUV/XrZQQTP6xgEq1Nqxpm+M3U+Qt hXbMIy7fP0hZkocAH31IZdK7QsrSsI8bnqmAkbWs4FAZXxaz9pn+xKVCcJNGddz6h0Sd weag== Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? References: From: richard sales Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-FC367ED1-2CA2-4775-9663-E2769451A8B7 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A403) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 17:01:11 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlwfRGN7sHqku/wjcDDx8cb+xaG0x8ZeSIWUG5kwDQbYKtnILCZzP+KATbDT4afYu8uiGdm Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:01:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-FC367ED1-2CA2-4775-9663-E2769451A8B7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too... and me too! Always wise to wait and check before updating OS. I always wait... sometime= s a very long time.=20 Always check your audio software provider for compatibility. This is why ma= ny of the biggest studios are still using older versions of popular software= , OS versions etc.=20 If it's working... Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Oct 6, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >=20 > I do this for a living, hence I'm on 10.6.8... >=20 >> The question is all in the subject really. >> Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with A= LL my music applications, except Logic. >> Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play. >> Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant g= et it to go away, therfore cant play. >> Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu is= there, but no window. >>=20 >>=20 >> Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like i= nterface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But weirdl= y its only happening on audio apps!! >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix --Apple-Mail-FC367ED1-2CA2-4775-9663-E2769451A8B7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Me too... and me too!

Always wise to wait and check before updating OS.  I always wait... sometimes a very long time. 
Always check your audio software provider for compatibility.  This is why many of the biggest studios are still using older versions of popular software, OS versions etc. 

If it's working...

Richard Sales
Sent from my IPad


On Oct 6, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on M

I do this for a living, hence I'm on 10.6.8...

The question is all in the subject really.
Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with ALL my music applications, except Logic.
Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play.
Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant get it to go away, therfore cant play.
Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu is there, but no window.


Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But weirdly its only happening on audio apps!!




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/


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--Apple-Mail-FC367ED1-2CA2-4775-9663-E2769451A8B7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 00:29:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB29218345A; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=xFVAuEG34uP+tw1yBjL6uPO1aMIm1QYjm7N8JO41eBI=; b=kWvbL/vdQv/Yo4WPttwapjUY5Et+69kP0I/8t7OtLQQh31L6caVA7OuA+Hl+McbS3e IK30Py1M4qoRU3O0f2eYtEkb53C3H6yQhESv5NGDi+cSTyNhJIaPRDFbbbXEXh98Vfpf XGSTQdUhWEZIF2E8WVw+noD/lGpOj1y3ETZs+tIWenianYhy8oMwwSUxDuBQ1+LOfwwq 7xuDD5DMkoSK3KVs91++lGl0KblVdsHVq9mll7xhUThqpBVTYxjts76IURD3vU4hzG3h g2JS3uYsfJ1QKZBrkFDA0UewYDkcIO8/Wz67d9ICp23tI7irzqGK4CnwBJ2Y0uWqbxwh i97w== Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? References: From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <54871FCA-440A-48BF-A28C-055F37ED4CE4@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:29:21 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:29:46 +0000 (UTC) No mark, I'm having some strangeness as well in live and logic which disappe= ar when I strip down to just passing through my audio interface. Totally int= ermittent tho.=20 Bests to all. Todd.=20 On Oct 6, 2012, at 7:32 PM, mark francombe wrote: > ok.. no one had any issues then.. damn... just me then... Rats!...=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 01:05:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF59718345A; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 01:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6LSI0IW9Jl6OzGDpexrD82+yB1lvK/5nypruk5mzNAc=; b=bZtgj7f0F8aeWdQJKprBFc58XGgevKICZGKomJIn8DNDXmwd74JYOTGWAutzW3ftOo pT6qno04unyXiVVOn3zoSd7ZIewvauk1SwVn1VvpQox1S2RL4agW+gzS8XPoRGidt0t7 jEbEATrO3FZp0HxL/tw295Fql6xAy/8qEiajLrycyw1GNVkmdKlqO2JSfHXggXUMVsBs S4022ofbcQxwVm6dqRbuoyWxfbRr+e7Ggt45QZaJxHAchLnSiI1saGT+S9bwXXpQyDjN QNk8yQCtCH3+2IQMdd6/FSSFCHF8XbSYXjkSUNVfAckKpYGDT3ysHMCp6gtBLTUqxaCb INow== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 17:05:27 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 01:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Okay =85 I just upgraded to Mountain Lion about a week ago and hadn't had a chance to run Reaper (I don't own Logic and I have the lite version of Ableton which I rarely use). At first, Reaper wouldn't load and I had the good sense to check for an update. Sure enough, there WAS an update dated this past August. Downloaded, installed, fired both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions with impun= ity. Mark, double check that you have the latest version of Reaper. Can't help you with the others, though =85 Best from #thelastfrontier, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > The question is all in the subject really. > Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with = ALL > my music applications, except Logic. > Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play. > Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant = get > it to go away, therfore cant play. > Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu is > there, but no window. > > > Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like > interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But > weirdly its only happening on audio apps!! > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 01:33:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCE93183450; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 01:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5070DBF2.5000807@theambientping.com> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:33:38 -0400 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 10.09.12 > The PiNG presents dreamSTATE + Ben Grossman + Hugh Marsh + General Chaos Visuals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.5070DBF6.0068,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 01:33:44 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10.09.12 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents THE RETURN OF THE dreamSTATE DRONE CYCLE 2012 . Part Ten . (D#) featuring dreamSTATE with BEN GROSSMAN & HUGH MARSH + a set by HUGH MARSH & BEN GROSSMAN + projections by GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. Oct. 9th . Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 9:00 . $6 9:00 . dreamSTATE with BEN GROSSMAN + HUGH MARSH . Both Jamie and Scott of dreamSTATE have long wanted to perform with Ben Grossman so the Drone Cycle brings them the perfect opportunity as what better than hurdy gurdy and electronics to develop a deep resonating and mind-altering drone in D#. 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Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . FREE MP3 DOWNLOAD dreamSTATE vs Heiki - THE NORTH SHORE - 4 Minute Metamix To give a little insight into the vibe of the dreamSTATE vs Heiki CD, Scott M2 mixed one minute segments from the 4 tracks on the CD into a single metamix. Stream or Download it here: http://www.dreamstate.to/audio/the_north_shore_metamix.mp3 NEW CD - dreamSTATE vs Heiki - THE NORTH SHORE Recorded in January 2012 during prep sessions for The Drone Cycle and live at THE AMBiENT PiNG by dreamSTATE and Heiki Sillaste, "The North Shore" sonically evokes the Canadian winters of their lifetimes - travels through white fields and deep woods, along frozen rivers and by the shorelines of great lakes. The special CD package is a numbered, limited-edition of 250 copies in digipak with glass-mastered audio CD and 4 signed artcards. (paper+sound editions) The CD and MP3 versions are available through CD Baby: http://cdbaby.com/cd/dreamstate4 Copies will also be available at the ping things table at the Drone Cycle show. http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 07:51:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97E3818345A; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60613.77.99.233.16.1349596311.squirrel@webmail.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:51:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? From: "Philip Conway" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:51:56 +0000 (UTC) I've not had any particular trouble with audio applications in Mountain Lion. Waking the damn thing from sleep is as buggy as hell, however. On Sun, October 7, 2012 2:05 am, Dennis Moser wrote: > Okay … > > I just upgraded to Mountain Lion about a week ago and hadn't had a > chance to run Reaper (I don't own Logic and I have the lite version of > Ableton which I rarely use). > > At first, Reaper wouldn't load and I had the good sense to check for > an update. Sure enough, there WAS an update dated this past August. > > Downloaded, installed, fired both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions with > impunity. > > Mark, double check that you have the latest version of Reaper. > > Can't help you with the others, though … > > Best from #thelastfrontier, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, mark francombe > wrote: >> The question is all in the subject really. >> Since installing Mountain Lion last week I've had no end of trouble with >> ALL >> my music applications, except Logic. >> Adobe Audition fires up loads a file, then doesn't play. >> Soundtrack Pro, has some weird routine with the Open dilog, where I cant >> get >> it to go away, therfore cant play. >> Reaper doesn't open at all, says its "building interface, and top menu >> is >> there, but no window. >> >> >> Nothing appears to be related to soundcard issues or drivers, more like >> interface issues, but what can the installing of an OS do to that? But >> weirdly its only happening on audio apps!! >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >> > > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 08:49:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A42E318345D; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=wxh2G+3hvPopkPcfcYkBB3BS9rzcuNGAWyeE+ELpePk=; b=QSOsSyhGkow4SxqV62e8d/TUSlrmgLcn/GEbsOLI5lhAX1P8VqpbYSjxx+KsX8TdL3 Px6pO132O0cD0bU0N6vSDVEFWxFxgIg/LIGT8imhkusUf/M3IXsooCQmfPOZ8aCpEugj K99ek7dk1k517C99hOIY0SzOLO7W2wgoipeh163mU3pDnHSj+CaQH3DdUmzA59qe6D4a 1jl7XnvZCTgSKvff0oQKHVpbJytZVOR1GJXvA9Ji2sf7+bq+7O9LQpf26M5gcjXzglxW nAYpNq0vk4oZdRzHh984DSRqgIHtg+a9cs3kKYxoGs9f7rD6BB7YF2yDs1RD6uiYajb+ Ba2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <60613.77.99.233.16.1349596311.squirrel@webmail.bris.ac.uk> References: <60613.77.99.233.16.1349596311.squirrel@webmail.bris.ac.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:48:55 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tg5Yz6c2IhZvs8lF1KM0BCfYr7k Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621e4001c7a604cb742e5a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:49:16 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621e4001c7a604cb742e5a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Aha! glad you have that too... @Per thanks for the knowledge, I dont read much other geek news so my first stop is LD, If they are known probs then Im ok with it. I have "other" audio editing software that IS working (Audacity, Soundbooth) and it looks like I might get Reaper working if I follow Teds advice. I agree about not upgrading too fast, I usually dont. My work machine is still on Snow Leopard, no probs there... I dunno why I went for ML. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Philip Conway wrote: > Waking the damn thing from sleep is as buggy as hell, however. -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b621e4001c7a604cb742e5a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aha! glad you have that too...
@Per thanks for the knowledge, I dont re= ad much other geek news so my first stop is LD, If they are known probs the= n Im ok with it. I have "other" audio editing software that IS wo= rking (Audacity, Soundbooth) and it looks like I might get Reaper working i= f I follow Teds advice.

I agree about not upgrading too fast, I usually dont. My work machine i= s still on Snow Leopard, no probs there... I dunno why I went for ML.
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Philip Conway = <Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
Waking the damn thing from sleep is as buggy= as hell, however.



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--047d7b621e4001c7a604cb742e5a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 09:31:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4089718345B; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Rr/pjJYQhtJiueEiJjx+ffjjNyqm2bIVpPDLM+UJ3bE=; b=JRdnq2e1AIPYEmlbSa9KDgAE9JxRZMirtbS8xx8flr4WZNt/70hFHMOZjgYlytaFjn chkrpgR9oPoz7JRTozPgdFnOSRuh0CGifzEJ5twVF3EldSz3Ga4ymBVm5mVZGPB9SR9a k4Ud02FCXIohoYstrFqb975owF/61s3oLgFN/MI3w5Al7cXEwB3pf6g+M2IiZ1VW3No+ Ye6iLXLeQ71PDyL4wvQYyz4t327/GUngiw+tyfYeYWxua/xAcJoHz+YtM70jKg4HCat+ pq5YlN9lDA2IMce1ZeQ66P5YzU9AXBo97LyIPw1M4uXmeQwDs9/zoscCss+8EOfytLcw SZkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:30:59 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Uzg93cBEqfN-_rTRnvdV3xyUoy8 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Quick bit of Reaper help... To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b62207a7c922104cb74c4a8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:31:21 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b62207a7c922104cb74c4a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Due to Dennis reminding me, Reaper is a nice program. I have never used it for midi synths however... and was wondering if a Reaper guru exists here. I managed to click a icon on a channel to open a VST or AU, selected NI Kore.. played a bit, hit record, recorded a bit.. but when I tried to play back, nothing... silence.... the routing in Reaper is a tad over-complex, but probably powerful. Im trawling thru the manual as we speak (400 pages) but hoping for a heads-up. Just how to record a midi item and play it back Answer OFF list if you prefer? Thanks you clever folk! M -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b62207a7c922104cb74c4a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Due to Dennis reminding me, Reaper is a nice program. I have never used it = for midi synths however... and was wondering if a Reaper guru exists here.<= br>
I managed to click a icon on a channel to open a VST or AU, selected= NI Kore.. played a bit, hit record, recorded a bit.. but when I tried to p= lay back, nothing... silence.... the routing in Reaper is a tad over-comple= x, but probably powerful.
Im trawling thru the manual as we speak (400 pages) but hoping for a heads-= up. Just how to record a midi item and play it back
Answer OFF list if y= ou prefer?

Thanks you clever folk!

M

--
Mark Francombe
= www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.c= om/photos/24478662@N00/

--047d7b62207a7c922104cb74c4a8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 10:51:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 015EB18345A; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=TPAJIJM9zi+irBgO0syvDKzc+9H21X1w6tAY/naTZbsa/Rx3LzGxN98DR7jZIZ8p; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <60613.77.99.233.16.1349596311.squirrel@webmail.bris.ac.uk> References: <60613.77.99.233.16.1349596311.squirrel@webmail.bris.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 06:50:51 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-862515409==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c9408622abff3fb4f498c9ce2bc39c7d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <3VCsgB.A.RrB.w6VcQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:51:28 +0000 (UTC) --============_-862515409==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 8:51 AM +0100 10/7/12, Philip Conway wrote: >I've not had any particular trouble with audio applications in Mountain >Lion. Waking the damn thing from sleep is as buggy as hell, however. Try this: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964 -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-862515409==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on M
At 8:51 AM +0100 10/7/12, Philip Conway wrote:
I've not had any particular trouble with audio applications in Mountain
Lion.  Waking the damn thing from sleep is as buggy as hell, however.


Try this:  https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964




--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-862515409==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 11:48:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 546BA18345D; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Sl3vbZuMdAQhSntRop4i4AA/NsVuDK6HXFo3QxkGZkk=; b=dg3Sc98htOkKRt7TScHjFWDGvylL/q42S5WYvEfugp3rEHKRvNF9s9gIk/KyeLHdPR aMhOuzDukytsW5oft7OJ++IFl0GhCgvnmNCZQy+fcELbii4bmHcuw8T7bq1ajFMb87mN 5B0pbUiqO3znWsWcgyHr2Kd1DZVbQmdtYaoQ2j6YrE8oy7FAdDsN8RweYUMZqT1Dmfut glhpLflD6Kd7rjDg21n3XRAl3shum4RRDiFm7V20kmnYpGDe03y2anlOTxAupvcsiOmW sHjeVGR5tPmq+lDPb0kv69Duu5kLzFtFtUGrq9WyZlIfh4Lp7r79QWEYRhZ/jUFT1GmJ 1A8w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <60613.77.99.233.16.1349596311.squirrel@webmail.bris.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:48:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9c7A-B.A.eIC.RwWcQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:48:33 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Waking the damn thing from sleep is as buggy as hell, however. Easy fix: Simply turn off "Energy Saver" for a machine being used for audio production! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 11:54:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43E5118345D; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50716D34.1040707@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:53:24 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for October 6, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:54:46 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121006.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.http://soundscapes.us/afterglow Show #235 October 6, 2012. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Hunter and Harrison Liquid To Gas - Phase 1 (Music With Space) Vaporization Ian Boddy Nucleotide Chiasmata (DiN) VA [Bios] The Dark Journey Sequences No. 21 VA [Cosmic Hoffmann] The Gate of Lahore Sequences No. 21 Tilomo Zen Assembler Soft Lunch (1K) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Paul Avgerinos Gentle Rain Lovers (none) Jeff Johnson and When We Were Young WaterSky (Ark) Phil Keaggy Nicholas Gunn The Swallow of Thirty-One Nights (Spring Na'Lu'Um Hill) The Piano Guys Titanium/Pavane The Piano Guys (Sony Masterworks) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== The Fusion Syndicate Random Acts of The Fusion Syndicate (Purple Science Pyramid) The Fusion Syndicate Stone Cold Infusion The Fusion Syndicate (Purple Pyramid) Circa 'Til We Get There And So On (none) Martin Orford Prelude The Old Road (Giant Electric Pea) Martin Orford The Old Road The Old Road (Giant Electric Pea) Ozone Player Scaling the Sky Root Long-Range Influence (Visual Power) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 12:09:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB2DD18345A; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WfYIEqAjtX/wRfhKv3V34ZlnVg/zuzXR6mykd22ZygNeX40Xt+SXUy15x2yO+fHn; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <60613.77.99.233.16.1349596311.squirrel@webmail.bris.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:09:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Anyone having trouble with audio applications on Mountain Lion? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79413ccd8b62cc4148483bfb8fd5ac97f0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:09:55 +0000 (UTC) If only it -were- that simple, Per. One symptom which requires the SMC reset is that the "energy saver" functions misbehave. I battled a problem which caused the erroneous instanciation of the screen saver (when set to "never" in the preference pane), repeatedly deleting "By Host" preferences, and until I reset the SMC, nothing solved the issue. >At 1:48 PM +0200 10/7/12, Per Boysen wrote: >On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: > > Waking the damn thing from sleep is as buggy as hell, however. > > >Try this: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964 > > >Easy fix: Simply turn off "Energy Saver" for a machine being used for >audio production! :-) > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.perboysen.com >http://www.youtube.com/perboysen -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 12:17:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 884B518345E; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50717284.2020305@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:16:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #809 for October 4, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:17:16 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121004.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #809 October 4, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=10-04-2012 RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "The Unknowing." http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct I also played music by artists who will appear at area concerts such as the Soundscapes Concert Series. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Ian Boddy Gravity Well Aurora (DiN) Robert Rich Generosity of Nest (Soundscape Productions) Solitude, Part 2 Tilomo After They're Gone Soft Lunch (1k) Hunter and Harrison Solid Returns to Phase 1 (Music With Space) Liquid - Melting 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Modulator ESP The Unknowing The Unknowing (none) Andy Pickford Flying Over EP#01 (none) (Instrumenal Mix) AKHET 1 * AKHET (Tonefloat) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Into the Matrix." WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-10-11 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 15:56:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F263D18345C; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=542OXVIpnTOPe/mzy4nTcAl3p743Q309yOF8M7REyyI=; b=aklTrCUF0YKc8NlP9RgPYoKIlMhW7MwmXVNl0PkmwKCRVqRh1PCZIk1bKvvdQ7uGMj lnDwupskeUA2To9UqbW0+6LzfpJmZWl87LSkvhu8NBK3JwzeQRFUVkvtf/AlFKghmk9K RQf8hTYSLcj+8aAb3ATzfqlSKyq78FT/iAuilijJgAXYlRoKb7IWSTCvWuUmSFPJnDig 7NoKmY9ITfgpFPbcmb7wf57DQTr5lUUrMzFlvv8m0udmZTjs44uAtxFhN4Uy4Yu4vEt9 l6SmZ4xHISkmvtXNzdZuSSJvuUdhwmFkx2Mq8QlgYKKtFP2J6JpzwRWQ+olnN6jFBobD 6KUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:56:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Quick bit of Reaper help... From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9ccd4b60d3d7f04cb7a2502 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:56:15 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9ccd4b60d3d7f04cb7a2502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's certainly great for NinJam remixes which I've used for a lot. To me it has a large learning curve but once I'm with it for a while it all makes sense. I'm long overdue to give them some support. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:30 AM, mark francombe wrot= e: > Due to Dennis reminding me, Reaper is a nice program. I have never used i= t > for midi synths however... and was wondering if a Reaper guru exists here= . > > I managed to click a icon on a channel to open a VST or AU, selected NI > Kore.. played a bit, hit record, recorded a bit.. but when I tried to pla= y > back, nothing... silence.... the routing in Reaper is a tad over-complex, > but probably powerful. > Im trawling thru the manual as we speak (400 pages) but hoping for a > heads-up. Just how to record a midi item and play it back > Answer OFF list if you prefer? > > Thanks you clever folk! > > M > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --14dae9ccd4b60d3d7f04cb7a2502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's certainly great for NinJam remixes which I've used for a lot. = =A0To me it has a large learning curve but once I'm with it for a while= it all makes sense. =A0I'm long overdue to give them some support.
=
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:30 AM, mark francombe <= span dir=3D"ltr"><mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Due to Dennis reminding me, Reaper is a nice program. I have never used it = for midi synths however... and was wondering if a Reaper guru exists here.<= br>
I managed to click a icon on a channel to open a VST or AU, selected= NI Kore.. played a bit, hit record, recorded a bit.. but when I tried to p= lay back, nothing... silence.... the routing in Reaper is a tad over-comple= x, but probably powerful.
Im trawling thru the manual as we speak (400 pages) but hoping for a heads-= up. Just how to record a midi item and play it back
Answer OFF list if y= ou prefer?

Thanks you clever folk!

M

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Mark Francombe
= www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.c= om/photos/24478662@N00/




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jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, rep= etitive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--14dae9ccd4b60d3d7f04cb7a2502-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 17:03:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E97DB18345E; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cvE/gKTDCKIMZbUU+S+fcmFiGO6Di2M7wq9IbFZsID0=; b=Y67/BpsgJpRPKDB/7fqziJxlP+E7BnwPdmzjbWhzJ8BNEATGT9UEnjjPeuFfEpeprO yr2MzkJjVmV6KfkJiTZHoJC7XbcnerT06xTbNCOyMyVIcLhjuP4V45XmljSlUmxP3DIq qspGcDbbZtj3tDm5jqunUGRLzygxObEbK7Dyy4cQTlMBQql/a6M2zKqHP0N5SzVDEHpH z/QoyCPjTBc5jQcG8qKAJ1SiWAPfMn13gDCWBPN4k3/a27amlhOPww+3/cr9xpt9iHnZ YPE/PcLXIXzj6R+2zQYYJ3Y0DJuM6nKgEhVmtLSJzWqcxg34itOoBnL3cu5MiSU2BFvU xfOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:03:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: How is the sound system at the Y2K loop festival? From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044280f6c18ebb04cb7b1527 Resent-Message-ID: <9-VXYB.A.aYF.mXbcQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044280f6c18ebb04cb7b1527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im just curious because bass is a necesity for my style of looping and I don't want to sound like poop when I go up. --f46d044280f6c18ebb04cb7b1527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Im just curious because bass is a necesity for my style of looping and I don't want to sound like poop when I go up.

--f46d044280f6c18ebb04cb7b1527-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 19:37:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24FEC18345C; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 19:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/iCdm3j9jUTWu/KKW+HTU2xFaaYLe8ypb1eXBsWkltQ=; b=vBaxc2Gs82spINQyDBh6t4fZjlpPo/0uzLrO0eV+Ui/D8uw9dY2/zVnA0YB7IAae7u nUkguqfkvOr7qRcQ7JyapGSaC66UNAWaD8+XlXxdlv/mZvLANCqbABkFrDk6sM9w4GAj Vyf3/R6ro7MxApNO3Tcwaus0KpjDnuN0JAUPaVGX3p3WrUtS7AFp2+NbxpcldkPhJOcp KoCpoeJ7hDWGk786yo862mkIm6UH72LyOeEqfwuELtn6m9Xu69EISWVq0/65KAN2a61o Mlcbl31OFhSWvM5a4r0ME4PN+yMm6xle7feGT96RASuh0UAJvGXeRvJQmHzakBUuXYRg jssg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:37:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Compressor From: Sergio Girardi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c554289ef004cb7d3d03 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 19:37:44 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8ff1c554289ef004cb7d3d03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello dears. once again I ask this question which nobody answered till now, hoping that this time I will have more luck. I know many many people if not all, here, are not into techno and electro, but I suppose you can suggest me and explain me this: what is a compressor for? And what is a limiter/gate for? Many compressors are compressor/limiter/gate and other are not (if I remember well, RNC and RNLA are just compressors, for example) and in internet the infos are so technical and complicated that I never understood what are these things for and if I need them or not and which one and many. For example, to avoid peaks, distortion, and saturation,what do I need? A compressor, a limiter, an EQ, or just set the gain properly? Or a combination of those? And if I want do get a punchy round kick drum, or a fat powerful dense bass, weather from a sample or from a Synth or beatboxing, what do I need (a part a good sample or synth or voice)? I hope in some help here because I feel that the compressor is the last missing important thing in my setup and I would like to understand well if I need it and which/many? My budget is limited (did I already announce that I wrote to my boss to quit from next year so that I can actually have time to make music instead of having just some -few- money to buy gears?) so if I can avoid it better but if it really can give to my setup that extra more which makes the difference, I=B4ll go for it, or for them (=3D one for the voice, one for the sampler and synths, or one for the kick and one for the bassline, or whatever else). Thanks! --e89a8ff1c554289ef004cb7d3d03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello dears.

once again I ask this question which nobody= answered till now, hoping that this time I will have more luck.
= I know many many people if not all, here, are not into techno and electro, = but I suppose you can suggest me and explain me this:

what is a compressor for? And what is a limiter/ga= te for?
Many compressors are compressor/limiter/gate and other ar= e not (if I remember well, RNC and RNLA are just compressors, for example) = and in internet the infos are so technical and complicated that I never und= erstood what are these things for and if I need them or not and which one a= nd many.

For example, to avoid peaks,=A0distortion, and saturati= on,what do I need? A compressor, a limiter, an EQ, or just set the gain pro= perly? Or a combination of those?
And if I want do get a punchy r= ound kick drum, or a fat powerful dense bass, weather from a sample or from= a Synth or beatboxing, what do I need (a part a good sample or synth or vo= ice)?

I hope in some help here because I feel that the compre= ssor is the last missing important thing in my setup and I would like to un= derstand well if I need it and which/many? My budget is limited (did I alre= ady announce that I wrote to my boss to quit from next year so that I can a= ctually have time to make music instead of having just some -few- money to = buy gears?)=A0so if I can avoid it better but if it really can give to my s= etup that extra more which makes the difference, I=B4ll go for it, or for t= hem (=3D one for the voice, one for the sampler and synths, or one for the = kick and one for the bassline, or whatever else).

Thanks!
--e89a8ff1c554289ef004cb7d3d03-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 21:14:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E09D18345E; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GKQ3ZbpKK1YhN934a3fDdDvKNoM/tE803LMZOOun0j8=; b=y17jE+ZvdORcsSmYGrxIT8EMcxhr0MsRLJwqQIEDrz5SiIsSLFnHN3DHtUSMtQcEen Nz/6uMFFKblMByfBldeo+pm1H4JyMwrzALYArAOTkx9cINwTJ6pGzagaNINEJ5xHP8yV O9VlxtA0YLuS/da6eGerCHqbNIemXEqXNuywfIshiNbKJrHWiHxAoTAXw6wIGXJlBlLv W45gvJD3P/DVx8Bh6B2vR+ER9saKeCj34o69OFN2vDy/9ChyYcAq69vXldcvvfslKNer IQNftd+36jRMM27G+yyDmNiNfIY9ulJ/IeRBARZUg7NrokZV8966wjKda8Zx72drbtp5 P0lw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:14:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compressor From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:14:03 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: Compressors are good to make an instrument fit into the limited bandwidth of a recording (compared to our acoustical hearing where the brain self-adjusts to hear even small sounds in a noisy environment and thus increasing the experienced bandwidth). Compressore are more important when producing a recording but can do a lot of good to a live performance setup as well. Technically a compressor brings up low level sounds and brings down high level sounds, but one normally tweaks a compressor to make a groove swing better - or for live instruments, to make the natural attack envelope of the instrument stand out well in the PA system. A limiter does what its name tells: it sets a limit, a level which the signal can not increase over. Both compressors and limiters are very sensitive to too much frequencies in a low or mid range so often you need an EQ before them to thin out the sound so the compressor will sound groovy. If a bus that is summing many instruments is sent through a compressor all these instrument's sound affect each other. An example can be to but a long 808 type kick and a light hihat pattern through a compressor: you will then hear that during each kick hit the hihat level is faded down ("pumping" in the compressor). A gate is good to set a level under which no signal can enter. A benefit is that noise is masked out. > For example, to avoid peaks, distortion, and saturation,what do I need? A > compressor, a limiter, an EQ, or just set the gain properly? Or a > combination of those? Mostly a combination of all that. And correctly tweaked. Applying them in a different order may give different results, so experimentation with open ears is the way to learn. > And if I want do get a punchy round kick drum, or a fat powerful dense bass, > weather from a sample or from a Synth or beatboxing, what do I need (a part > a good sample or synth or voice)? Having a punchy round kick is not enough, if you don't happen to make "kick drum music" :-) You need to EQ, or arrange, the other instruments in the musicalo mix to bring out the "fat", "round" and "punchy" aspects of the kick. You mentioned the RNC compressor. I have one of those and think it is good when run in its Really-Good-Mode. I did an A-B test of it a while back and found that I get better results with certain software compressors, but if your aim is to avoid computers the RNC is a lot bang for the buck. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 22:33:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 996F118345A; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Bw1TF29U+3JWDZRh9+VoPHI0pabJtDtVk1D7JPEIMyI=; b=jv9LF7/h4SYkqvcr4mXLfyVFjEb6jYY6iw6q9w0/q0m9c47pX8T67FTDyLNnc5EGdq 7TiUEPAhxiqcM7p62AFsKj//++YLNb1L68xXmuKXPkiZ4ceB54pHdQovzbwU3VBPkoxn KEJCvNjHa0VEIj73jkFjxAHQpVUrdRi48f23K4htAZah2Dz+EFkHkRiwMi6WgeeEy2wS RkXGYwZW504slH74W4esGeul08UpnxrG8krPTWpqTyzx9qUP2fEcwR70jYy9qnJfejDn 0/deI31q+d9BNCUTHFFgZkeo1Cq2eAbxOkbJIyEfO75hqtCP1Tiqic63EPWJD1Zqxd+b b35w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:33:37 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VqNFcjsb2DdGW73B58faAIScOgY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compressor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343b2059b22904cb7fb3a7 Resent-Message-ID: <2pFaeB.A.sEB.WNgcQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:33:59 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343b2059b22904cb7fb3a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Of course Pers answer is outstanding, and Im afraid, experimentation will yield the best results, but I remember being confused about them too (Am still a bit) WHat you need is some understanding of the controls of a typical compressor, and a few definitive applications (for your kind of music). Here we go: *Level:* Theres always a level contril *Threshold*: a control to select HOW LOUD it has to be before the compressor starts compressing. Low threshold, everything is compressed, High threshold, just the loud bits (this second is a limiter basically) *Ratio:* Sometime called other things, this is the AMOUNT of compression. There are many applications of compressors, but heres 3 (chosen for techno use) 1. MAKE THE WHOLE MIX REALLY LOUD; Yes, Compressors are often placed on the Left Right Main outputs, to turn up the quiet bits and get the loud bits as loud as they can be before getting distorted... the theory is, the louder the music is, the more you will notice it... Hmmm... Im afriad this is true... sad... but true. 2. THE TRANCE GATE: This is usually achieved by the "Side Chain" input of a compressor. That is a special input, that doesnt get affects by the sound, but automatically adjusts the mount of compression BASED ON THE LEVEL OF THE NOISE AT THIS INPUT. So the other, normal input will vary in volume, BASED on the level of the sound sent to the this input. Put a droning synth on the regular input and a high hat in the Side Chain input, and the drone is heard as Da Da Da Da Da Da... 3. BASSDRUM PUNCH: Basically the same effect, but in reverse. The problem for techno artists is that they want the bass drum as loud as possible, but if they turn it up, everything else distorts when it is heard... the trick, turn every thing else DOWN while the Bass Drum is playing, this way the Bass drum appears clean and punchy, and the music is kept clean. ...and finally, a cheat from the 80s, Almost all producers would put the bass drum in the side chain input of a compressor, and put the Bass guitarist in the compressor... yes that slack, dope smoking, sleepy bass player... suddenly, he was as tight as hell... playing right on that beat with the drummer.. "wow what a rythym section...!" Er no... actually, every time the kick drum played, the bass players not was turned up a bit, giving the illusion of tightness... Compressors, Used in moderation, subtle mix tweaking tools, Used in excess, crazy power effects and broken up beats... But best learned in software, where you can try out lots of thing without a rewire... Hope this helps! Mark On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Sergio Girardi wrot= e: > Hello dears. > > once again I ask this question which nobody answered till now, hoping tha= t > this time I will have more luck. > I know many many people if not all, here, are not into techno and electro= , > but I suppose you can suggest me and explain me this: > > what is a compressor for? And what is a limiter/gate for? > Many compressors are compressor/limiter/gate and other are not (if I > remember well, RNC and RNLA are just compressors, for example) and in > internet the infos are so technical and complicated that I never understo= od > what are these things for and if I need them or not and which one and man= y. > > For example, to avoid peaks, distortion, and saturation,what do I need? A > compressor, a limiter, an EQ, or just set the gain properly? Or a > combination of those? > And if I want do get a punchy round kick drum, or a fat powerful dense > bass, weather from a sample or from a Synth or beatboxing, what do I need > (a part a good sample or synth or voice)? > > I hope in some help here because I feel that the compressor is the last > missing important thing in my setup and I would like to understand well i= f > I need it and which/many? My budget is limited (did I already announce th= at > I wrote to my boss to quit from next year so that I can actually have tim= e > to make music instead of having just some -few- money to buy gears?) so i= f > I can avoid it better but if it really can give to my setup that extra mo= re > which makes the difference, I=B4ll go for it, or for them (=3D one for th= e > voice, one for the sampler and synths, or one for the kick and one for th= e > bassline, or whatever else). > > Thanks! > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b343b2059b22904cb7fb3a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Of course Pers answer is outstanding, and Im afraid, experimentation will y= ield the best results, but I remember being confused about them too (Am sti= ll a bit)

WHat you need is some understanding of the controls of a t= ypical compressor, and a few definitive applications (for your kind of musi= c).

Here we go:

Level: Theres always a level contril
Th= reshold: a control to select HOW LOUD it has to be before the compresso= r starts compressing. Low threshold, everything is compressed, High thresho= ld, just the loud bits (this second is a limiter basically)
Ratio: Sometime called other things, this is the AMOUNT of compressi= on.

There are many applications of compressors, but heres 3 (chosen = for techno use)

1. MAKE THE WHOLE MIX REALLY LOUD; Yes, Compressors = are often placed on the Left Right Main outputs, to turn up the quiet bits = and get the loud bits as loud as they can be before getting distorted... th= e theory is, the louder the music is, the more you will notice it... Hmmm..= . Im afriad this is true... sad... but true.
2. THE TRANCE GATE: This is usually achieved by the "Side Chain" = input of a compressor. That is a special input, that doesnt get affects by = the sound, but automatically adjusts the mount of compression BASED ON THE = LEVEL OF THE NOISE AT THIS INPUT. So the other, normal input will vary in v= olume, BASED on the level of the sound sent to the this input. Put a dronin= g synth on the regular input and a high hat in the Side Chain input, and th= e drone is heard as Da Da Da Da Da Da...
3. BASSDRUM PUNCH: Basically the same effect, but in reverse. The problem f= or techno artists is that they want the bass drum as loud as possible, but = if they turn it up, everything else distorts when it is heard... the trick,= turn every thing else DOWN while the Bass Drum is playing, this way the Ba= ss drum appears clean and punchy, and the music is kept clean.

...and finally, a cheat from the 80s, Almost all producers would put th= e bass drum in the side chain input of a compressor, and put the Bass guita= rist in the compressor... yes that slack, dope smoking, sleepy bass player.= .. suddenly, he was as tight as hell... playing right on that beat with the= drummer.. "wow what a rythym section...!" Er no... actually, eve= ry time the kick drum played, the bass players not was turned up a bit, giv= ing the illusion of tightness...

Compressors, Used in moderation, subtle mix tweaking tools, Used in exc= ess, crazy power effects and broken up beats... But best learned in softwar= e, where you can try out lots of thing without a rewire...


Hope this helps!

Mark



On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9= :37 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Hello dears.

once again I ask this question which nobody= answered till now, hoping that this time I will have more luck.
= I know many many people if not all, here, are not into techno and electro, = but I suppose you can suggest me and explain me this:

what is a compressor for? And what is a limiter/ga= te for?
Many compressors are compressor/limiter/gate and other ar= e not (if I remember well, RNC and RNLA are just compressors, for example) = and in internet the infos are so technical and complicated that I never und= erstood what are these things for and if I need them or not and which one a= nd many.

For example, to avoid peaks,=A0distortion, and saturati= on,what do I need? A compressor, a limiter, an EQ, or just set the gain pro= perly? Or a combination of those?
And if I want do get a punchy r= ound kick drum, or a fat powerful dense bass, weather from a sample or from= a Synth or beatboxing, what do I need (a part a good sample or synth or vo= ice)?

I hope in some help here because I feel that the compre= ssor is the last missing important thing in my setup and I would like to un= derstand well if I need it and which/many? My budget is limited (did I alre= ady announce that I wrote to my boss to quit from next year so that I can a= ctually have time to make music instead of having just some -few- money to = buy gears?)=A0so if I can avoid it better but if it really can give to my s= etup that extra more which makes the difference, I=B4ll go for it, or for t= hem (=3D one for the voice, one for the sampler and synths, or one for the = kick and one for the bassline, or whatever else).

Thanks!



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--047d7b343b2059b22904cb7fb3a7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 23:52:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D497018345A; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_149fb532-3a17-43eb-accf-bc59c516a735_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.255.199] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Compressor Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:52:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2012 23:52:15.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[C72D98E0:01CDA4E6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:52:16 +0000 (UTC) --_149fb532-3a17-43eb-accf-bc59c516a735_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Per :) So=2C the compressor is a kind of normalization? What does a limiter give you by doing that? I mean=2C for example=2C does i= t avoid peaks if I am not careful with my beatboxing and I do a too strong = sound?And in what does it differs in the way a compressor brings down the h= igher sounds? Why a compressor is more important when recording? And is there any differe= nce between applying the compression on the fly or applying it after the tr= ack is recorded? It is a bit confusing that=2C in order to allow the compressor to give me b= etter kick and bassline=2C I have to decrease basses and mids in the eq. :)= I generally do the opposite especially if I beatbox.Should I buy some affo= rdable rack eq like the behringers or any other which you here guys can sug= gest?Or can it be enough the eq in the mixer? In the Soundcraft EFX8 which = I will use between the instruments and the looper=2C I have only 3 band eq = (with the possibility to specify in which frequency will the mid eq act).Th= e OT goes then in a Mackie ProFX8 where also Ableton goes and eventually al= so a guest who would play with me but not looped. In this mixer I have also= 3 band eq in each channel=2C plus a general 7 band eq. What you describes when you talk of summing many instruments=2C sounds like= something I have read somewhere=2C called sidechain or a particular result= of sidechaining called duck (???). But I thought I needed a chain of compr= essors to do that. Misunderstandings which happens when you have no idea of= what people are talking about.For this that they call duck (I sing over a = bed of sounds and its volume goes down a bit when I sing) I suppose that I = should place the compressor as last thing before the speakers=2C right? So = that while the Octatrack and Ableton are performing=2C I sing or play there= min or a solo with a synth=2C and it will be more audible respect the bed?W= hile if I want to punch punch a kick or to deepen a bassline before looping= it I should put the compressor between the first mixer and the OT? So I ne= ed 2 compressors or a stereo compressor? I do not exclude a computer at all=2C I have purchased a used copy of Ablet= on with max4live to be able to loop together with Ableton and OT so that I = can have more possibilities.But how can I use a software compressor to comp= ress something that I want to loop in the OT?Should I run the out of the 1s= t mixer into the in of the audio interface=2C and the outs of the audio int= erface into the IN of the Octatrack?I can do that=2C even if I was having s= ome fun trying to imagine strange connection to have the possibility to res= ample in Ableton what the OT does=2C and in the OT what Ableton does.For ex= ample: the CUE outs of the OT into the in of the audio interface (I can dec= ide what I will rute into the CUE outputs)=2C and the outs of the audio int= erface into 2 of the 4 inputs of the OT. In the other 2 inputs of the ot wo= uld go the main of the 1st mixer. While the MAIN of the OT would go into th= e 2nd mixer. Eventually I was even thinking to connect the Headphones out o= f the audio interface to the second mixer too=2C so that I can play with mu= te or faders or effects of the mixer to have a richer sound.What do you thi= nk=2C could it work? But if I want to duck/sidechain the final result (including what ableton is= doing)? How can I do that with a software? (by the way=2C which?) I understand what you say about eq or arrange the other instrument in the g= eneral mix.Right. :) > Date: Sun=2C 7 Oct 2012 23:14:02 +0200> Subject: Re: Compressor > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Sun=2C Oct 7=2C 2012 at 9:37 PM=2C Sergio Girardi wrote: >=20 > Compressors are good to make an instrument fit into the limited > bandwidth of a recording (compared to our acoustical hearing where the > brain self-adjusts to hear even small sounds in a noisy environment > and thus increasing the experienced bandwidth). Compressore are more > important when producing a recording but can do a lot of good to a > live performance setup as well. Technically a compressor brings up low > level sounds and brings down high level sounds=2C but one normally > tweaks a compressor to make a groove swing better - or for live > instruments=2C to make the natural attack envelope of the instrument > stand out well in the PA system. >=20 > A limiter does what its name tells: it sets a limit=2C a level which the > signal can not increase over. >=20 > Both compressors and limiters are very sensitive to too much > frequencies in a low or mid range so often you need an EQ before them > to thin out the sound so the compressor will sound groovy. >=20 > If a bus that is summing many instruments is sent through a compressor > all these instrument's sound affect each other. An example can be to > but a long 808 type kick and a light hihat pattern through a > compressor: you will then hear that during each kick hit the hihat > level is faded down ("pumping" in the compressor). >=20 > A gate is good to set a level under which no signal can enter. A > benefit is that noise is masked out. >=20 > > For example=2C to avoid peaks=2C distortion=2C and saturation=2Cwhat do= I need? A > > compressor=2C a limiter=2C an EQ=2C or just set the gain properly? Or a > > combination of those? >=20 > Mostly a combination of all that. And correctly tweaked. Applying them > in a different order may give different results=2C so experimentation > with open ears is the way to learn. >=20 > > And if I want do get a punchy round kick drum=2C or a fat powerful dens= e bass=2C > > weather from a sample or from a Synth or beatboxing=2C what do I need (= a part > > a good sample or synth or voice)? >=20 > Having a punchy round kick is not enough=2C if you don't happen to make > "kick drum music" :-) You need to EQ=2C or arrange=2C the other > instruments in the musicalo mix to bring out the "fat"=2C "round" and > "punchy" aspects of the kick. >=20 > You mentioned the RNC compressor. I have one of those and think it is > good when run in its Really-Good-Mode. I did an A-B test of it a while > back and found that I get better results with certain software > compressors=2C but if your aim is to avoid computers the RNC is a lot > bang for the buck. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 = --_149fb532-3a17-43eb-accf-bc59c516a735_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Per :)

So=2C the compressor is a kind of normaliz= ation?

What does a limiter give you by doing that?= I mean=2C for example=2C does it avoid peaks if I am not careful with my b= eatboxing and I do a too strong sound?
And in what does it differ= s in the way a compressor brings down the higher sounds?

Why a compressor is more important when recording? And is there = any difference between applying the compression on the fly or applying it a= fter the track is recorded?

It is a bit con= fusing that=2C in order to allow the compressor to give me better kick and = bassline=2C I have to decrease basses and mids in the eq. :) I generally do= the opposite especially if I beatbox.
Should I buy some affordab= le rack eq like the behringers or any other which you here guys can suggest= ?
Or can it be enough the eq in the mixer? =3B
In t= he Soundcraft EFX8 which I will use between the instruments and the looper= =2C I have only 3 band eq (with the possibility to specify in which frequen= cy will the mid eq act).
The OT goes then in a Mackie ProFX8 wher= e also Ableton goes and eventually also a guest who would play with me but = not looped. In this mixer I have also 3 band eq in each channel=2C plus a g= eneral 7 band eq.

=
What you describes when you = talk of summing many instruments=2C sounds like something I have read somew= here=2C called sidechain or a particular result of sidechaining called duck= (???). But I thought I needed a chain of compressors to do that. Misunders= tandings which happens when you have no idea of what people are talking abo= ut.
For this that they call duck (I sing over a bed of sou= nds and its volume goes down a bit when I sing) I suppose that I should pla= ce the compressor as last thing before the speakers=2C right? So that while= the Octatrack and Ableton are performing=2C I sing or play theremin or a s= olo with a synth=2C and it will be more audible respect the bed?
= While if I want to punch punch a kick or to deepen a bassline before loopin= g it I should put the compressor between the first mixer and the OT? So I n= eed 2 compressors or a stereo compressor?

I do not= exclude a computer at all=2C I have purchased a used copy of Ableton with = max4live to be able to loop together with Ableton and OT so that I can have= more possibilities.
But how can I use a software compressor to c= ompress something that I want to loop in the OT?
Should I run the= out of the 1st mixer into the in of the audio interface=2C and the outs of= the audio interface into the IN of the Octatrack?
I can do that= =2C even if I was having some fun trying to imagine strange connection to h= ave the possibility to resample in Ableton what the OT does=2C and in the O= T what Ableton does.
For example: the CUE outs of the OT into the= in of the audio interface (I can decide what I will rute into the CUE outp= uts)=2C and the outs of the audio interface into 2 of the 4 inputs of the O= T. In the other 2 inputs of the ot would go the main of the 1st mixer. Whil= e the MAIN of the OT would go into the 2nd mixer. Eventually I was even thi= nking to connect the Headphones out of the audio interface to the second mi= xer too=2C so that I can play with mute or faders or effects of the mixer t= o have a richer sound.
What do you think=2C could it work?
<= div>
But if I want to duck/sidechain the final result (includ= ing what ableton is doing)? How can I do that with a software? (by the way= =2C which?)

I understand what you say about eq or = arrange the other instrument in the general mix.
Right.

:)

>=3B Date: Sun=2C 7 Oct 2012 23:14:02 +0200
>=3B Subje= ct: Re: Compressor
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B On Sun=2C Oct 7=2C 2012 = at 9:37 PM=2C Sergio Girardi <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
&= gt=3B
>=3B Compressors are good to make an instrument fit into the li= mited
>=3B bandwidth of a recording (compared to our acoustical hearin= g where the
>=3B brain self-adjusts to hear even small sounds in a noi= sy environment
>=3B and thus increasing the experienced bandwidth). Co= mpressore are more
>=3B important when producing a recording but can d= o a lot of good to a
>=3B live performance setup as well. Technically = a compressor brings up low
>=3B level sounds and brings down high leve= l sounds=2C but one normally
>=3B tweaks a compressor to make a groove= swing better - or for live
>=3B instruments=2C to make the natural at= tack envelope of the instrument
>=3B stand out well in the PA system.<= br>>=3B
>=3B A limiter does what its name tells: it sets a limit=2C= a level which the
>=3B signal can not increase over.
>=3B
&g= t=3B Both compressors and limiters are very sensitive to too much
>=3B= frequencies in a low or mid range so often you need an EQ before them
&= gt=3B to thin out the sound so the compressor will sound groovy.
>=3B =
>=3B If a bus that is summing many instruments is sent through a comp= ressor
>=3B all these instrument's sound affect each other. An example= can be to
>=3B but a long 808 type kick and a light hihat pattern thr= ough a
>=3B compressor: you will then hear that during each kick hit t= he hihat
>=3B level is faded down ("pumping" in the compressor).
&g= t=3B
>=3B A gate is good to set a level under which no signal can ent= er. A
>=3B benefit is that noise is masked out.
>=3B
>=3B &= gt=3B For example=2C to avoid peaks=2C distortion=2C and saturation=2Cwhat = do I need? A
>=3B >=3B compressor=2C a limiter=2C an EQ=2C or just s= et the gain properly? Or a
>=3B >=3B combination of those?
>=3B=
>=3B Mostly a combination of all that. And correctly tweaked. Applyi= ng them
>=3B in a different order may give different results=2C so exp= erimentation
>=3B with open ears is the way to learn.
>=3B
&g= t=3B >=3B And if I want do get a punchy round kick drum=2C or a fat power= ful dense bass=2C
>=3B >=3B weather from a sample or from a Synth or= beatboxing=2C what do I need (a part
>=3B >=3B a good sample or syn= th or voice)?
>=3B
>=3B Having a punchy round kick is not enough= =2C if you don't happen to make
>=3B "kick drum music" :-) You need t= o EQ=2C or arrange=2C the other
>=3B instruments in the musicalo mix t= o bring out the "fat"=2C "round" and
>=3B "punchy" aspects of the kick= .
>=3B
>=3B You mentioned the RNC compressor. I have one of thos= e and think it is
>=3B good when run in its Really-Good-Mode. I did an= A-B test of it a while
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>=3B compressors=2C but if your aim is to avoid = computers the RNC is a lot
>=3B bang for the buck.
>=3B
>= =3B Greetings from Sweden
>=3B
>=3B Per Boysen
>=3B www.per= boysen.com
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>=3B
<= /div>
= --_149fb532-3a17-43eb-accf-bc59c516a735_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 13:35:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1354C18345E; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oscillicious.com; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A3GU6er8YemWOYhTlkfhVYU1gQvSpyGnsJ4af60AkC8=; b=glxrK2wQT25XyAM5TsCAOYGNt6LKUVDgi9QW+w+6ba2cLR0wROGPMOP/LFkcr3/URZ m3IkgvOpI/cITNvZ9nZW8dFa8G2ZIOKHcStESYC/YJdRdGLypUezWhJkdIax4O5QvRLk W4NQMUC8soffaaVmUAvI4qq6e9gvdG4+8dDiI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=A3GU6er8YemWOYhTlkfhVYU1gQvSpyGnsJ4af60AkC8=; b=V2CGkobwkr7jsar5EwJGNptvVC9EEU0OQb0BDLKb1qhxzMLrJJR1nb1pymnNTRkr/A XSQcMDZEXjFpxvZQYLzp8cIfFZSzfCQvfYXwtDElr7nBFMl6V7viFZVt4yfQpcE5Ati/ 1A12JuGwMt9MDOSzitJJAZY0YIpsUpMVujKEDbYjMWPV0OLkaexV6RqrmIuFpN+SoMcT XhUfPy+qj2IHqxw4dp3Gnt4/9AbjNGkahme8T9s2iBvUPaF9IOen3SDr421aypQ0J8GX PhwlFwW3T6VV5aergdP8XAV8UOXOdW3YqOof8CA8j3fjZxD/Lb7YrIeH8B4dFyN43Jbc UcxQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: support@oscillicious.com X-Originating-IP: [83.163.0.81] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:35:20 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QWiqcDS8NpYa1jQ7rr1sK3hBbU8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compressor From: Albert Santoni To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlGKpZG9IPDPil2i8e5GFVvcMTJieUzZ23Srwpuw7/LD0a7MIV9N+9B8/2td/HHKWDcyib3 Resent-Message-ID: <8XyE2C.A.DlB.ZatcQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sergio, On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Sergio G wrote: > Thanks Per :) > > So, the compressor is a kind of normalization? Yeah, kinda. It's much more useful than plain normalization though because it acts on the "peaks" by "compressing" their volume downward. For example, if you normalize a regular audio file, the quiet parts might still be difficult to hear due to very sharp/high peaks in the signal. Compression makes quiet parts easier to hear by making the loud parts quieter. (It compresses the dynamic range of the signal.) > > What does a limiter give you by doing that? I mean, for example, does it > avoid peaks if I am not careful with my beatboxing and I do a too strong > sound? Bingo! You got it - this is one great way to use a limiter. > And in what does it differs in the way a compressor brings down the higher > sounds? Limiters are just compressors with very high "compression ratios" (someone correct me if I'm wrong). That means they dramatically reduce the volume of the loud parts. For example, when mastering, I think you usually put a limiter to crush everything so nothing is louder than -3 dB. (Someone correct me here, I'm not an audio engineering expert by any means...) > > Why a compressor is more important when recording? And is there any > difference between applying the compression on the fly or applying it after > the track is recorded? Great question. A compressor is useful when recording because if you compress the dynamic range of your signal before it's recorded, you end up with more precision in your signal. When you're making a 16-bit digital recording, those 16 bits encode the sound pressure level of the signal. That's the y-axis you're seeing when you look at a waveform. 16 bits means the sound pressure level can have 65,536 different values. With regular PCM audio (normally used for music), those 65,536 different values are spread out evenly (linearly) across the dynamic range of your recording device. So for example, if you make a recording that's only at 10% volume, then you can only record 6,553 different pressure levels, which is equivalent to recording at only 12 bit resolution! In other words, you lose resolution in the dynamics of your recording if you record too quietly. Quiet recordings will sound crappier if you apply the gain later, so that's why some people recommend using a compressor in your signal path before recording. You'll reduce the volume of the loud parts to eliminate clipping, while giving more resolution to the quiet parts when recording. > > It is a bit confusing that, in order to allow the compressor to give me > better kick and bassline, I have to decrease basses and mids in the eq. :) I > generally do the opposite especially if I beatbox. Definitely play with the window and attack/release times of your compressor. Keeping your kicks and snares sounding punchy while using a compressor is tricky. There's probably some good guides on how to do this if you google around. (I'm bad at it...) :) I'll leave the rest for someone more hardware oriented than I to reply to! Hope this helps! Albert > Should I buy some affordable rack eq like the behringers or any other which > you here guys can suggest? > Or can it be enough the eq in the mixer? > In the Soundcraft EFX8 which I will use between the instruments and the > looper, I have only 3 band eq (with the possibility to specify in which > frequency will the mid eq act). > The OT goes then in a Mackie ProFX8 where also Ableton goes and eventually > also a guest who would play with me but not looped. In this mixer I have > also 3 band eq in each channel, plus a general 7 band eq. > > What you describes when you talk of summing many instruments, sounds like > something I have read somewhere, called sidechain or a particular result of > sidechaining called duck (???). But I thought I needed a chain of > compressors to do that. Misunderstandings which happens when you have no > idea of what people are talking about. > For this that they call duck (I sing over a bed of sounds and its volume > goes down a bit when I sing) I suppose that I should place the compressor as > last thing before the speakers, right? So that while the Octatrack and > Ableton are performing, I sing or play theremin or a solo with a synth, and > it will be more audible respect the bed? > While if I want to punch punch a kick or to deepen a bassline before looping > it I should put the compressor between the first mixer and the OT? So I need > 2 compressors or a stereo compressor? > > I do not exclude a computer at all, I have purchased a used copy of Ableton > with max4live to be able to loop together with Ableton and OT so that I can > have more possibilities. > But how can I use a software compressor to compress something that I want to > loop in the OT? > Should I run the out of the 1st mixer into the in of the audio interface, > and the outs of the audio interface into the IN of the Octatrack? > I can do that, even if I was having some fun trying to imagine strange > connection to have the possibility to resample in Ableton what the OT does, > and in the OT what Ableton does. > For example: the CUE outs of the OT into the in of the audio interface (I > can decide what I will rute into the CUE outputs), and the outs of the audio > interface into 2 of the 4 inputs of the OT. In the other 2 inputs of the ot > would go the main of the 1st mixer. While the MAIN of the OT would go into > the 2nd mixer. Eventually I was even thinking to connect the Headphones out > of the audio interface to the second mixer too, so that I can play with mute > or faders or effects of the mixer to have a richer sound. > What do you think, could it work? > > But if I want to duck/sidechain the final result (including what ableton is > doing)? How can I do that with a software? (by the way, which?) > > I understand what you say about eq or arrange the other instrument in the > general mix. > Right. > > :) > >> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:14:02 +0200 >> Subject: Re: Compressor >> From: perboysen@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> >> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Sergio Girardi >> wrote: >> >> Compressors are good to make an instrument fit into the limited >> bandwidth of a recording (compared to our acoustical hearing where the >> brain self-adjusts to hear even small sounds in a noisy environment >> and thus increasing the experienced bandwidth). Compressore are more >> important when producing a recording but can do a lot of good to a >> live performance setup as well. Technically a compressor brings up low >> level sounds and brings down high level sounds, but one normally >> tweaks a compressor to make a groove swing better - or for live >> instruments, to make the natural attack envelope of the instrument >> stand out well in the PA system. >> >> A limiter does what its name tells: it sets a limit, a level which the >> signal can not increase over. >> >> Both compressors and limiters are very sensitive to too much >> frequencies in a low or mid range so often you need an EQ before them >> to thin out the sound so the compressor will sound groovy. >> >> If a bus that is summing many instruments is sent through a compressor >> all these instrument's sound affect each other. An example can be to >> but a long 808 type kick and a light hihat pattern through a >> compressor: you will then hear that during each kick hit the hihat >> level is faded down ("pumping" in the compressor). >> >> A gate is good to set a level under which no signal can enter. A >> benefit is that noise is masked out. >> >> > For example, to avoid peaks, distortion, and saturation,what do I need? >> > A >> > compressor, a limiter, an EQ, or just set the gain properly? Or a >> > combination of those? >> >> Mostly a combination of all that. And correctly tweaked. Applying them >> in a different order may give different results, so experimentation >> with open ears is the way to learn. >> >> > And if I want do get a punchy round kick drum, or a fat powerful dense >> > bass, >> > weather from a sample or from a Synth or beatboxing, what do I need (a >> > part >> > a good sample or synth or voice)? >> >> Having a punchy round kick is not enough, if you don't happen to make >> "kick drum music" :-) You need to EQ, or arrange, the other >> instruments in the musicalo mix to bring out the "fat", "round" and >> "punchy" aspects of the kick. >> >> You mentioned the RNC compressor. I have one of those and think it is >> good when run in its Really-Good-Mode. I did an A-B test of it a while >> back and found that I get better results with certain software >> compressors, but if your aim is to avoid computers the RNC is a lot >> bang for the buck. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> -- Albert Santoni Lead Developer | Oscillicious Delicious Audio Tools and Plug-ins Bring new life to classic sounds with SodaSynth VST / AU: http://www.oscillicious.com/sodasynth Slice beats faster with BeatCleaver: http://www.oscillicious.com/beatcleaver From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:09:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 690A618345E; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=5Rzbxi+7PoNAQ/qkrBzaSQsC+VOKhSiqRC0kGM0O1zw=; b=reBV/LPLzbv+A6Dr67l1jRS1+2+YudbY/uIdSFjYTh9m1+sEUdmHY0UYnKWqFl6lI+ u5XuZ+C6kKoDhBr3yWYrXs20K/9f2B5veoVg4dw+X1hBwCrDSZbQ2zZpYnCOnDpIYOxU mq7qW7Vxm23Dvq6At4HlhfGjK3eA2vOP3bZyyySW05DthcxLyeqLjmbHBGExTbxZEp1p KFsy/3DYdIofpppju6wUuO+pwad8gxmr2mwlZZePtm/gCghQxUneyQXRU6h0Gll4OT6R U1v+tV4xpZ3whQgvytAkGdu53tYqCbzb6POrLLRJL2DGZ+cgXksdQRDscvk+COatT1VN HeFA== MIME-Version: 1.0 From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:08:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Request for opinions on Windows notation options To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f343eeb734904cb8cc4c5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:09:27 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f343eeb734904cb8cc4c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Music Software request...I just received this message from my friend, Ivan Singer , a great photographer, can my muso friends help us out here? Believe it or not, I have zero clue on the low priced or the windows end. "My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a package to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he look at for the Windows 7 OS?" I know there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are). I'm assuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of dollars in Finale or Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A comment thread should help us out! Thanks, brothers and sisters! Todd --20cf307f343eeb734904cb8cc4c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Music Software request...I just receive= d this message from my friend,=A0Ivan Si= nger, a great photographer, can my = muso friends help us out here? Believe it or not, I have zero clue on the l= ow priced or the windows end.=A0

"= ;My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a pack= age to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he look at f= or the Windows 7 OS?"

I kno= w there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are). I'm a= ssuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of dollars in Finale or = Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A commen= t thread should help us out!

Thanks, brothers and sisters!=A0

Todd


--20cf307f343eeb734904cb8cc4c5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:58:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F328418345D; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1Di+WYC1jt75ui6XV79QIO6HDsmSWjfpkDAhQCHsTd8=; b=CKClB76YKBmYWalQZnUVE9terB6poITirJRLRayoRImY4G3/dj9pnhXg8MaDlkhgfq jQ/b9/cA2MuEZDsQopVFIGe3kWgtq7yGPqf40eTP02ds1VWBcFogeIjRE+a+tod/EDBJ SbboOh2y+D0v3f/qkuT8vapGI1xz2UdXJQoHmJtaI1kXL+9/RMZpr+uGGBFyET8X1WP4 g4RNRNwAZB+lS+AwytciMIrPvdz6Mrl7vOBlN+vRdi2dcpzw2aJlBq0fzzFi670utylq o94mVaV/X2hSGsD3nCagL67HHfXXnW97gZZK4oNkakCDBRXgkedVquJLYnin+pbwGlBl ukFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:58:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Request for opinions on Windows notation options From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:58:27 +0000 (UTC) MuseScore is free. I worked with it a little and it's pretty nice. http://musescore.org/ Noteworthy is inexpensive ($49) and decent. I haven't used it in quite a while, but as I recall it was really easy to use. http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/ On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:08 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Music Software request...I just received this message from my friend, Ivan > Singer, a great photographer, can my muso friends help us out here? Believe > it or not, I have zero clue on the low priced or the windows end. > > "My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a > package to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he look > at for the Windows 7 OS?" > > I know there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are). I'm > assuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of dollars in Finale or > Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A comment > thread should help us out! > > Thanks, brothers and sisters! > > Todd > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:26:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81C92183455; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=pKNNViNo0PpfG4NR3G98/3ZRlHYwIDkcDTR6rWCDAiA=; b=jwTNPrrav++nmusbIWYm1Ic7WqvBA8w21YVQWxvX12Y6DE9APgAwviPdkjYhLKRegh V6BLT1Yu3AhZ7ggUAemXsxwHTk6+TBYoN3B1l1vONpX5yV10Qc5kUke1Mvy2+XKQPejc p/C+k4dW81K2CStrw6iLv9rQ0OhYOtclkQXsmiHsxdE3J5NfT4zNBnGKSpCEd9Z53nlY nabB7iXQeasiJxZvsdkkylwJc61kvwwsbR3m4blGJ49h/q9otAOkZbW3CSr7Y4CdD/Xk UIh1bvUzJeeXJZD+NgS5spDiCEiiRx1jxZEQf5V4c4Iy4/stjTcS2p7b3ixwnHY4R4N4 oiCw== Message-ID: <5072F09C.8050601@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:26:20 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Request for opinions on Windows notation options References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010409090709010607020904" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:26:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010409090709010607020904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LilyPond is an option, although I have no proper experience myself: http://www.lilypond.org/ Am 08.10.2012 16:08, schrieb todd reynolds: > Music Software request...I just received this message from my friend, > Ivan Singer , a great > photographer, can my muso friends help us out here? Believe it or not, > I have zero clue on the low priced or the windows end. > > "My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a > package to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he > look at for the Windows 7 OS?" > > I know there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are). I'm > assuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of dollars in Finale > or Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A > comment thread should help us out! > > Thanks, brothers and sisters! > > Todd > > --------------010409090709010607020904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
LilyPond is an option, although I have no proper experience myself:
http://www.lilypond.org/

Am 08.10.2012 16:08, schrieb todd reynolds:
Music Software request...I just received this message from my friend, Ivan Singer, a great photographer, can my muso friends help us out here? Believe it or not, I have zero clue on the low priced or the windows end. 

"My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a package to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he look at for the Windows 7 OS?"

I know there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are). I'm assuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of dollars in Finale or Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A comment thread should help us out!

Thanks, brothers and sisters! 

Todd



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It seems to me that a comp= ressor, while decreasing a peak, also decreases the softer sounds at the sa= me time. Of course, as soon as the loud sound ends, the soft sound is incre= ased. If I am incorrect, Somebody please freel free to clear this point up.= =20 Thanx Rig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Per Boysen =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Sunday, Octob= er 7, 2012 2:14 PM=0ASubject: Re: Compressor=0A=0AOn Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:= 37 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote:=0A=0ACompressors are = good to make an instrument fit into the limited=0Abandwidth of a recording = (compared to our acoustical hearing where the=0Abrain self-adjusts to hear = even small sounds in a noisy environment=0Aand thus increasing the experien= ced bandwidth). Compressore are more=0Aimportant when producing a recording= but can do a lot of good to a=0Alive performance setup as well. Technicall= y a compressor brings up low=0Alevel sounds and brings down high level soun= ds, but one normally=0Atweaks a compressor to make a groove swing better - = or for live=0Ainstruments, to make the natural attack envelope of the instr= ument=0Astand out well in the PA system.=0A=0AA limiter does what its name = tells: it sets a limit, a level which the=0Asignal can not increase over.= =0A=0ABoth compressors and limiters are very sensitive to too much=0Afreque= ncies in a low or mid range so often you need an EQ before them=0Ato thin o= ut the sound so the compressor will sound groovy.=0A=0AIf a bus that is sum= ming many instruments is sent through a compressor=0Aall these instrument's= sound affect each other. An example can be to=0Abut a long 808 type kick a= nd a light hihat pattern through a=0Acompressor: you will then hear that du= ring each kick hit the hihat=0Alevel is faded down ("pumping" in the compre= ssor).=0A=0AA gate is good to set a level under which no signal can enter. = A=0Abenefit is that noise is masked out.=0A=0A> For example, to avoid peaks= , distortion, and saturation,what do I need? A=0A> compressor, a limiter, a= n EQ, or just set the gain properly? Or a=0A> combination of those?=0A=0AMo= stly a combination of all that. And correctly tweaked. Applying them=0Ain a= different order may give different results, so experimentation=0Awith open= ears is the way to learn.=0A=0A> And if I want do get a punchy round kick = drum, or a fat powerful dense bass,=0A> weather from a sample or from a Syn= th or beatboxing, what do I need (a part=0A> a good sample or synth or voic= e)?=0A=0AHaving a punchy round kick is not enough, if you don't happen to m= ake=0A"kick drum music" :-)=A0 You need to EQ, or arrange, the other=0Ainst= ruments in the musicalo mix to bring out the "fat", "round" and=0A"punchy" = aspects of the kick.=0A=0AYou mentioned the RNC compressor. I have one of t= hose and think it is=0Agood when run in its Really-Good-Mode. I did an A-B = test of it a while=0Aback and found that I get better results with certain = software=0Acompressors, but if your aim is to avoid computers the RNC is a = lot=0Abang for the buck.=0A=0AGreetings from Sweden=0A=0APer Boysen=0Awww.p= erboysen.com=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/perboysen ---820900331-350818466-1349720458=:57293 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having one difficulty with the explanation. It seems to me that a comp= ressor, while decreasing a peak, also decreases the softer sounds at the sa= me time. Of course, as soon as the loud sound ends, the soft sound is incre= ased. If I am incorrect, Somebody please freel free to clear this point up.= =20=0D
Thanx=0D
Rig
From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
= To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Sent: = Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:14 PM
S= ubject: Re: Compressor

=0AOn Sun, Oct 7, = 2012 at 9:37 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com>= wrote:

Compressors are good to make an instrument fit into the limi= ted
bandwidth of a recording (compared to our acoustical hearing where t= he
brain self-adjusts to hear even small sounds in a noisy environmentand thus increasing the experienced bandwidth). Compressore are more
i= mportant when producing a recording but can do a lot of good to a
live p= erformance setup as well. Technically a compressor brings up low
level s= ounds and brings down high level sounds, but one normally
tweaks a compr= essor to make a groove swing better - or for live
instruments, to make t= he natural attack envelope of the instrument
stand out well in the PA sy= stem.

A limiter does what its name tells: it sets a limit, a level w= hich the
signal can not increase over.

Both compressors and limiters are very sensitive to too much
frequencies in = a low or mid range so often you need an EQ before them
to thin out the s= ound so the compressor will sound groovy.

If a bus that is summing m= any instruments is sent through a compressor
all these instrument's soun= d affect each other. An example can be to
but a long 808 type kick and a= light hihat pattern through a
compressor: you will then hear that durin= g each kick hit the hihat
level is faded down ("pumping" in the compress= or).

A gate is good to set a level under which no signal can enter. = A
benefit is that noise is masked out.

> For example, to avoid= peaks, distortion, and saturation,what do I need? A
> compressor, a = limiter, an EQ, or just set the gain properly? Or a
> combination of = those?

Mostly a combination of all that. And correctly tweaked. Appl= ying them
in a different order may give different results, so experimentation
with open ears is the way to learn.

> And if = I want do get a punchy round kick drum, or a fat powerful dense bass,
&g= t; weather from a sample or from a Synth or beatboxing, what do I need (a p= art
> a good sample or synth or voice)?

Having a punchy round = kick is not enough, if you don't happen to make
"kick drum music" :-)&nb= sp; You need to EQ, or arrange, the other
instruments in the musicalo mi= x to bring out the "fat", "round" and
"punchy" aspects of the kick.
<= BR>You mentioned the RNC compressor. I have one of those and think it isgood when run in its Really-Good-Mode. I did an A-B test of it a while
= back and found that I get better results with certain software
compresso= rs, but if your aim is to avoid computers the RNC is a lot
bang for the = buck.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.yout= ube.com/perboysen



---820900331-350818466-1349720458=:57293-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 18:36:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6651518345B; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NJvUzt2US+6Jr4oyOp4kNC7h/16VVAE/F7o0cEFAXWQ=; b=PG4K4SwHe55vdHV+FPtlG+JuMAiUQ9nF9xGb20cLbIbOctISDp29MMIKqdJQ0hlXjZ uAEf98i9pVBPGDoTAL6OizJOgYtoCai/0g+zzL6PRRbsvpavtRB7IXQ15Qfv087Ou7mL RTH44/5+GY99DkhhD9r6Pe/5Mwj/j2I+D+p6BX7ySHHo6ecXc93fl6vLRaiz0qIpdeES Jc9SQMJljv4POIQ1OTke+0Nw3D1rmZQZxYjPmziZFqo8rLJCwpM61DLQQn+XtKZc0/u8 Pt1Z9oR/UpktUbbqrcStGiYHpMD3ggribiuCCK0oD8KdrBxNm4f53XySvsTvezUUmd5Y WQSw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5072F09C.8050601@googlemail.com> References: <5072F09C.8050601@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:36:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Request for opinions on Windows notation options From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343e369acda404cb908015 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:36:41 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343e369acda404cb908015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +1 on museScore. Unless you have specific need of something only available in finale or Sibelius, this free software is excellent. Sylvain On Monday, October 8, 2012, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > LilyPond is an option, although I have no proper experience myself: > http://www.lilypond.org/ > > Am 08.10.2012 16:08, schrieb todd reynolds: > > Music Software request...I just received this message from my friend, Ivan > Singer , a great photographer, > can my muso friends help us out here? Believe it or not, I have zero clue > on the low priced or the windows end. > > "My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a > package to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he look > at for the Windows 7 OS?" > > I know there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are). I'm > assuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of dollars in Finale or > Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A comment > thread should help us out! > > Thanks, brothers and sisters! > > Todd > > > > --047d7b343e369acda404cb908015 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 on museScore. =A0Unless you have specific need of something only availab= le in finale or Sibelius, this free software is excellent.

Sylvain=A0

On Monday, October 8, 2012, Rainer Thelon= ius Balthasar Straschill wrote:
=20 =20 =20
LilyPond is an option, although I have no proper experience myself:
http://www.lil= ypond.org/

Am 08.10.2012 16:08, schrieb todd reynolds:
Music Software request...I just received this message from my friend,=A0<= /span>= Ivan Singer, a great photographer, can my muso friends help us out here? Believe it or not, I have zero clue on the low priced or the windows end.=A0

"My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a package to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he look at for the Windows 7 OS?"

I know there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are)= . I'm assuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of doll= ars in Finale or Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A comment thread should help us out!

Thanks, brothers and sisters!=A0

Todd



--047d7b343e369acda404cb908015-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 18:38:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36FE618345E; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:38:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VbQV8YSSpvQwWk5GgoMtevun5f3dvXpff3wlU4guypU=; b=FNQ3Tk6zHdn3mt0k/LPBhQmZgRwOboqzXQamsPInWFIMUsWvIPQBS/opzwkCQpXcbm WZJYfD8JqZ1X1IQHebGWPP0TFKFUpElK9Jgq+bf+00uVw276e5haNYNAnp4qpmeAUxsz Eqyb//kV4vuPevJB0iNrQecpp/YhLgCKe+aax1fpA33pRnDfAs/Fwcpk6VYtwwLx/EEz zMHZ3ENlK0ScnwGc+ZuHtXODrBCmw0iclI4ecL7cJsMeCu4my6IiJN437WwwnMRt55mU VU0GtYqHiW+ico69Y1h/SpLk6P+pDbKfodwB3b9dpmZEfPi5PWIIauZzA1WbmbBuAGVr tNdA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5072F09C.8050601@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:38:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Request for opinions on Windows notation options From: Justin Higgins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfff247d08b04cb908722 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:38:33 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfff247d08b04cb908722 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There's also Finale Notepad which is free, and could get the job done for simple notation/etc. http://www.finalemusic.com/NotePad/Default.aspx -Justin On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > +1 on museScore. Unless you have specific need of something only > available in finale or Sibelius, this free software is excellent. > > Sylvain > > On Monday, October 8, 2012, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > >> LilyPond is an option, although I have no proper experience myself: >> http://www.lilypond.org/ >> >> Am 08.10.2012 16:08, schrieb todd reynolds: >> >> Music Software request...I just received this message from my friend, Ivan >> Singer , a great photographer, >> can my muso friends help us out here? Believe it or not, I have zero clue >> on the low priced or the windows end. >> >> "My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a >> package to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he look >> at for the Windows 7 OS?" >> >> I know there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are). I'm >> assuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of dollars in Finale or >> Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A comment >> thread should help us out! >> >> Thanks, brothers and sisters! >> >> Todd >> >> >> >> --20cf307cfff247d08b04cb908722 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's also Finale Notepad which is free, and could get the job done f= or simple notation/etc.

http://www.finalemusic.com/NotePad/Default.aspx

-Justin

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM, S= ylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
+1 on museScore. =A0Unless you have specific need of something only availab= le in finale or Sibelius, this free software is excellent.

Sylvain=A0

On Monday, October 8, 2012, Rainer Thelon= ius Balthasar Straschill wrote:
=20 =20 =20
LilyPond is an option, although I have no proper experience myself:
http://www.lil= ypond.org/

Am 08.10.2012 16:08, schrieb todd reynolds:
Music Software request...I just received this message from my friend,=A0<= /span>= Ivan Singer, a great photographer, can my muso friends help us out here? Believe it or not, I have zero clue on the low priced or the windows end.=A0

"My son is trying to compose some a capella music and is looking for a package to compose and print out a score. What would you recommend he look at for the Windows 7 OS?"

I know there are net options, (though I'm not sure what they are)= . I'm assuming that Ivan doesn't want to pay hundreds of doll= ars in Finale or Sibelius investment yet, so we're looking for simpler options. A comment thread should help us out!

Thanks, brothers and sisters!=A0

Todd




--20cf307cfff247d08b04cb908722-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 18:46:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF44B18345D; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oscillicious.com; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=feK5rFbEwwUp4KpLIW4ZW+E3dum2Xyt2Y3zdBl9wxRQ=; b=EkVTZ9xo2tmdqHvk9qSzB7siY6Oc5wJPkpqFr3yTg304S4lamBaVWKMFEzDCFi7LeU Bwe6je/GMl1NGAaTd2Cdcm0N0utafKYhQT/yxBP98jVHB9y8t4g9oJDBUtAl/QuKPMGZ 8UrIEnQ+qxwxnlsTaK1SJtTFUSzp8svAX6BYI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=feK5rFbEwwUp4KpLIW4ZW+E3dum2Xyt2Y3zdBl9wxRQ=; b=WLB2bC2NJzK50yOgcmeiDBkF+aids7YX+Kj9yuF/ukoRDQg0EOh/xYCaflDr0ouS/e tYxc9rIJsY1X+HI6NIUKtPS6UPoiescrggFHFQ45yIX6lAPJLTASVlufRaiupA6KHMj7 eeIwJCsgF7dqdIKSEJ31EE8bDe9ef750AnX+7r+DzAK2lzh87NWLj76te0snVSKWjCPI 6sgLNj5qrQKyJK/7C3ZSNMVi1ehm3AduzsaUW5vvr9Kxan725UNyHc6tfZnQqat+9K2f r72/sWMDN1CLNaL5SA0kIxwy2R5e5kg6H73vkSSPoi/+ghwxhE4unuvko+txXikFTG2O syHw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: support@oscillicious.com X-Originating-IP: [83.163.0.81] In-Reply-To: <1349720458.57293.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1349720458.57293.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:46:49 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -RWCBnawZHrXUAswxP7kKFdCfEc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compressor From: Albert Santoni To: bill bigrig Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkVe0fFxgPDru6Ch4hFzOYW3jtj5fia/5IiezmSuay4YhcNYX0f0xt2yphxZIGAz3OPUFGU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill, On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:20 PM, bill bigrig wrote: > I am having one difficulty with the explanation. It seems to me that a > compressor, while decreasing a peak, also decreases the softer sounds at the > same time. Of course, as soon as the loud sound ends, the soft sound is > increased. If I am incorrect, Somebody please freel free to clear this point > up. Yeah, if both the loud and soft sound are played at the same time, they will both be decreased in volume. When the loud sound ends, the compressor will ease up on the signal and the (remaining) soft sound will get louder. I've found that a good way to get a feel for a compressor is to mix a drum loop over some soft strings or a synth pad. If you play with the compressor settings, you'll start to hear the strings get quieter when the drums hit. You'll start to get that Daft Punk trademark compressor breathing sound, and it's a good setup for hearing what compression can do. Thanks, Albert > ________________________________ > From: Per Boysen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: Compressor > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Sergio Girardi > wrote: > > Compressors are good to make an instrument fit into the limited > bandwidth of a recording (compared to our acoustical hearing where the > brain self-adjusts to hear even small sounds in a noisy environment > and thus increasing the experienced bandwidth). Compressore are more > important when producing a recording but can do a lot of good to a > live performance setup as well. Technically a compressor brings up low > level sounds and brings down high level sounds, but one normally > tweaks a compressor to make a groove swing better - or for live > instruments, to make the natural attack envelope of the instrument > stand out well in the PA system. > > A limiter does what its name tells: it sets a limit, a level which the > signal can not increase over. > > Both compressors and limiters are very sensitive to too much > frequencies in a low or mid range so often you need an EQ before them > to thin out the sound so the compressor will sound groovy. > > If a bus that is summing many instruments is sent through a compressor > all these instrument's sound affect each other. An example can be to > but a long 808 type kick and a light hihat pattern through a > compressor: you will then hear that during each kick hit the hihat > level is faded down ("pumping" in the compressor). > > A gate is good to set a level under which no signal can enter. A > benefit is that noise is masked out. > >> For example, to avoid peaks, distortion, and saturation,what do I need? A >> compressor, a limiter, an EQ, or just set the gain properly? Or a >> combination of those? > > Mostly a combination of all that. And correctly tweaked. Applying them > in a different order may give different results, so experimentation > with open ears is the way to learn. > >> And if I want do get a punchy round kick drum, or a fat powerful dense >> bass, >> weather from a sample or from a Synth or beatboxing, what do I need (a >> part >> a good sample or synth or voice)? > > Having a punchy round kick is not enough, if you don't happen to make > "kick drum music" :-) You need to EQ, or arrange, the other > instruments in the musicalo mix to bring out the "fat", "round" and > "punchy" aspects of the kick. > > You mentioned the RNC compressor. I have one of those and think it is > good when run in its Really-Good-Mode. I did an A-B test of it a while > back and found that I get better results with certain software > compressors, but if your aim is to avoid computers the RNC is a lot > bang for the buck. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > -- Albert Santoni Lead Developer | Oscillicious Delicious Audio Tools and Plug-ins Bring new life to classic sounds with SodaSynth VST / AU: http://www.oscillicious.com/sodasynth Slice beats faster with BeatCleaver: http://www.oscillicious.com/beatcleaver From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 19:02:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCBF418345D; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5073235C.2010200@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:02:52 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Y2K12 THURS SF schedule is INCORRECT on website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:02:55 +0000 (UTC) The Y2K12 International Live Looping THURSDAY LUGGAGE STORE lineup in San Francisco is completely wrong as printed on the website, at this moment. Please forgive me for not double checking it amongst all the other preparations I've been making for the festival. I apologize if I got anyone's hopes up about the SF date. It is always an experimental music live looping venue and different from all the other Y2K looping events. The actual lineup is ************************************************************* THURSDAY, OCTOBER 18th Experimental Side of the Y2K12 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL THE LUGGAGE STORE 1007 Market Street @ 6th San Francisco 7:00 load in 8:00 PHILIPP ZURCHER (Switzerland) 8:40 KRISPEN HARTUNG (US) & AARON DAVIS 9:20 LUCA FORMENTINI (Italy) ************************************************************* From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 19:44:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2320C18345B; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=YGu70Cx3Shj9H6Ml5WqbB8uLyJNng96IHci7GNe8CTk=; b=Bg55qRFpY33ba6Lv4NOlIcMwMTWexIDdjoynJw1aIlCUdwEjqqlalTnCqyJC9sMpo+ Vkivr0DYve8TauczGywBt+ydA6hiY2MBrj1BAfmEL2TJsWQ3qsW08NAixkDqAn3NSgnX UT0z+NwgBX4bJTDfRBHSzcycEfwOvsue/iIWEIxn6yCDvO5Ezr52N/0ZEwK/gDxul7xw yNt9KVzfXIDAwn7t+FLvREP4xxjmr34FoBa+d7Lxu2KNs9IELXCOlRKG4bhhsiYH6xur eyR2Qt78OoZ25HUqbqoaYWLXEt7bogy15QlG6iRr8+RY5x+b/xQPwDZHMgJ8boLsusRZ Cgcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:43:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: soliciting participation in "Touch the Loopers" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec553ff42e777d404cb917176 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:44:09 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec553ff42e777d404cb917176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Tim, I'm very excited to attend that night! I don't have any particularly exciting gear (RC50/KP3/MPC500/Microstation), but I think it'd be fun to have a bunch of loop artists all messing around on new gear! Looking forward to meeting you! On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Laurie Amat wrote: > HI Tim, > > I'll be there and I'd be happy to bring my little DL-4. I do some crazy > things with it, and even though it's not high high tech, it's fun to show > people how they can make crazy voice work. > > I might have the new QuNeo from Keith McMillan, but won't know for a few > weeks. > > So, if this isn't too simple, I'm in. > > Laurie > > > On Oct 1, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: > > As part of the International Live Looping Festival this year, a "Touch the > Loopers" event will be held at my home in San Jose on Thursday October 18, > starting at 7:30pm. It's inspired by "Touch the Gaar" events that have > become a tradition of the Outsound Music Summit in San Francisco. At these > events, people bring, demonstrate, and allow other people to play with > their gear - often experimental DIY instruments - in a very casual > environment. Obviously, this "Touch the Loopers" event will focus on > looping gear (including visual loopers, of which there will be at least 2). > At the beginning of the evening, some time will be allocated for brief > talks/demos, but most of the evening will be available for people to get > hands-on experience with whatever equipment shows up. I also expect and > hope that some of the casual conversations will include brainstorming of > looping things that don't yet exist, but should. > > If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, software, commercial or > custom) that you'd like to bring and let people play with, please contact > me@timthompson.com > > ...Tim... > > > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --bcaec553ff42e777d404cb917176 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Tim,

I'm very excited to attend that night! I do= n't have any particularly exciting gear (RC50/KP3/MPC500/Microstation),= but I think it'd be fun to have a bunch of loop artists all messing ar= ound on new gear! Looking forward to meeting you!

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Laurie Amat = <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
HI Tim,=A0

I'll = be there and I'd be happy to bring my little DL-4. I do some crazy thin= gs with it, and even though it's not high high tech, it's fun to sh= ow people how they can make crazy voice work.

I might have the new QuNeo from Keith McMillan, but won= 't know for a few weeks.=A0

So, if this isn= 9;t too simple, I'm in.=A0

Laurie

On Oct 1, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tim Thompso= n wrote:

As part of the International Li= ve Looping Festival this year, a "Touch the Loopers" event will b= e held at my home in San Jose on Thursday October 18, starting at 7:30pm. = =A0It's inspired by "Touch the Gaar" events that have become = a tradition of the Outsound Music Summit in San Francisco. =A0At these even= ts, people bring, demonstrate, and allow other people to play with their ge= ar - often experimental DIY instruments - in a very casual environment. =A0= Obviously, this "Touch the Loopers" event will focus on looping g= ear (including visual loopers, of which there will be at least 2). =A0At th= e beginning of the evening, some time will be allocated for brief talks/dem= os, but most of the evening will be available for people to get hands-on ex= perience with whatever equipment shows up. =A0I also expect and hope that s= ome of the casual conversations will include brainstorming of looping thing= s that don't yet exist, but should.

=A0If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, softw= are, commercial or custom) that you'd like to bring and let people play= with, please contact me@timthompson.com=A0

=A0 =A0 =A0...Tim...




--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(8= 07) 251-3376
--bcaec553ff42e777d404cb917176-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 19:48:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3A4718345E; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 296799.41050.bm@omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349725732; bh=OmvNvTJNbGEFeGWL5eq/rRMn1K3oWHmAKWhoAjlpbzM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=FlvBJtNhf+r+S7u6Ccwz70epJHXswPddvcFHDCW1XL5vAuRrvndw3WLFLx2pYehdjvBAeTGJVh+ynEl9gQ5OwRTkIzkEpQCFYoB7h+xfYPiVbmVoMuGn77ruVH2Lmwv6reGzY9Ujv+RIKgncbLIZSkAZ+Stkosyk3PCR4St41zQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 1qtpB50VM1kKrqFc1sw.3o0WNz5DfdmiUl1ECdXXwKIOQAP IMva_1L9UsWlweBUu4CjC9KuyEJ3dp3Ku0cARlyPqQX48C2orxv8RpoPZpiJ LZ2Bp3pH.SaJAsO0Qs7d07..CT33qHbws8ZQUNAYB6N2LKTiDtijHmrVyClZ Lit0GCC7gs7nRGQeeSQep1RSVOXS3H5xBSyHFsrTtHptYpIBN0rrkO0lbvLU BpQGp6END3QOfXhfjDEj2PHTYfyTiad_1OCESOxHtoXOPmurSVd3IjObkbpc qOuLkvKvFNTyjQCt0KAy6m2KjXbURiAR7NoUXGp.wdqoexxbPXtBof69.a09 Jk8t_Iq28uV1TVFdMIXxuGoyGVqN8bwVSY5KDnhGD7oivnMXujN05o7UuKV1 RzRPHGuFxIsvGpXXfTgzqVy1DW0TGKugjtweln6JGT0LtvVPoxbS_OeZN7f0 iF2od3KHCI8oGwjYGH6.TALnjhvlnlYjRsdk6mKBJGlW2LTtiIwHfxyUqCaX T0K5h9R2.FXIZ7LmIwhiBxvY2RLMJ5uiUv0vzLcB8jCXGxDpH X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F Subject: Re: soliciting participation in "Touch the Loopers" References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--96139385 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:48:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--96139385 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How late will this "Touch the Looper" evening be going? I have = rehearsal until about 8pm, and I am 1.5 hours away. Michael Carlson On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > Hey Tim, >=20 > I'm very excited to attend that night! I don't have any particularly = exciting gear (RC50/KP3/MPC500/Microstation), but I think it'd be fun to = have a bunch of loop artists all messing around on new gear! Looking = forward to meeting you! >=20 > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Laurie Amat = wrote: > HI Tim,=20 >=20 > I'll be there and I'd be happy to bring my little DL-4. I do some = crazy things with it, and even though it's not high high tech, it's fun = to show people how they can make crazy voice work. >=20 > I might have the new QuNeo from Keith McMillan, but won't know for a = few weeks.=20 >=20 > So, if this isn't too simple, I'm in.=20 >=20 > Laurie >=20 >=20 > On Oct 1, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: >=20 >> As part of the International Live Looping Festival this year, a = "Touch the Loopers" event will be held at my home in San Jose on = Thursday October 18, starting at 7:30pm. It's inspired by "Touch the = Gaar" events that have become a tradition of the Outsound Music Summit = in San Francisco. At these events, people bring, demonstrate, and allow = other people to play with their gear - often experimental DIY = instruments - in a very casual environment. Obviously, this "Touch the = Loopers" event will focus on looping gear (including visual loopers, of = which there will be at least 2). At the beginning of the evening, some = time will be allocated for brief talks/demos, but most of the evening = will be available for people to get hands-on experience with whatever = equipment shows up. I also expect and hope that some of the casual = conversations will include brainstorming of looping things that don't = yet exist, but should. >>=20 >> If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, software, commercial = or custom) that you'd like to bring and let people play with, please = contact me@timthompson.com=20 >>=20 >> ...Tim... >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 --Apple-Mail-1--96139385 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii How = late will this "Touch the Looper" evening be going?  I have = rehearsal until about 8pm, and I am 1.5 hours = away.

Michael Carlson

On Oct = 8, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote:

Hey = Tim,

I'm very excited to attend that night! I don't = have any particularly exciting gear (RC50/KP3/MPC500/Microstation), but = I think it'd be fun to have a bunch of loop artists all messing around = on new gear! Looking forward to meeting you!

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Laurie = Amat <voicesound@att.net> = wrote:
HI = Tim, 

I'll be there and I'd be happy to bring my = little DL-4. I do some crazy things with it, and even though it's not = high high tech, it's fun to show people how they can make crazy voice = work.

I might have the new QuNeo from Keith McMillan, but = won't know for a few weeks. 

So, if this = isn't too simple, I'm = in. 

Laurie


On Oct 1, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Tim = Thompson wrote:

As part of the = International Live Looping Festival this year, a "Touch the Loopers" = event will be held at my home in San Jose on Thursday October 18, = starting at 7:30pm.  It's inspired by "Touch the Gaar" events that = have become a tradition of the Outsound Music Summit in San Francisco. =  At these events, people bring, demonstrate, and allow other people = to play with their gear - often experimental DIY instruments - in a very = casual environment.  Obviously, this "Touch the Loopers" event will = focus on looping gear (including visual loopers, of which there will be = at least 2).  At the beginning of the evening, some time will be = allocated for brief talks/demos, but most of the evening will be = available for people to get hands-on experience with whatever equipment = shows up.  I also expect and hope that some of the casual = conversations will include brainstorming of looping things that don't = yet exist, but should.

 If you have a piece of looping gear (hardware, = software, commercial or custom) that you'd like to bring and let people = play with, please contact me@timthompson.com 

     ...Tim...




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Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376

= --Apple-Mail-1--96139385-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 19:53:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 984AE183461; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=oHIw4/2vqEctB1U+yBFGT5lYcuV8jpgZ+BYyPlcXo98=; b=Dk0RPjNuTogKNS+Mz9qCyxAFOA7BeMVyDUB7uoTyb8eewed/HSJCuzaM4sarLU6GP9 6e3j/uxMXIDKkCJKlE4qYL3uCKFhuisp2JjYAaWyhNt0t5YGDrEV0gFy+VlbdJ0gpRHL lsdQEIQlvnp+wB5jlnSL0ZhIrzA9CUqL7mxXcFsOOZXXnBwP9tBOGty9l0UO3gsuTRYW it7JIYYwjcwb2zczCn2oqVsR5BvodNUJBQKmf65M6AEs3W+WGpXh2rkNvTa0FzTv0FuS nP/6ODVbIZPgCPFBIRtuxb8hVnKekgiOO0VKh/WUEUcFOVBQkPSYsA5ls1fwEdBjbn1E f45w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: j.de.roover@gmail.com From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: M0cRB_a_T7XQxra1BusUGxjdWz0 Message-ID: Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04088d235f28bd04cb9193d4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:53:31 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04088d235f28bd04cb9193d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone! I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week! 10/08 =96 *Seattle, WA* @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THA= W 10/09 =96 *Portland, OR* @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton 10/10 =96 *Dunsmuir, CA* @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus 10/11 =96 *Napa, CA* @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA* @ ZuhG Life (early) 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA *@ Shine (late) =96 *Shine Bat Festival*** 10/14 =96 *San Francisco, CA* @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Bl= ack Cobra Vipers 10/17 =96 *San Jose, CA* @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 *Best of* *Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival* 10/19 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International Li= ve Looping Festival* 10/20 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International Li= ve Looping Festival* 10/21 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International Li= ve Looping Festival*** 10/24 =96 *Sonora, CA* @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green 10/29 =96 *Fort Follins, CO* @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Arti= sts 10/30 =96 *Lincoln, NE* @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band 10/30 =96 *Omaha, NE* @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Lov= e Technicians More info can be found on my website, including videos and music. --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com --f46d04088d235f28bd04cb9193d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be touring the Western= US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd send out a messa= ge with my tour dates listed:

If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful= to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are= playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/= or a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Seattle, = WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW

10/09 =96 Portland,= OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton

10/10 =96 Dunsmuir,= CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus

10/11 =96 Napa, CA<= /b> @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus

10/13 =96 Sacrament= o, CA @ ZuhG Life (early)

10/13 =96 Sacrament= o, CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival<= /font>

10/14 =96 San Franc= isco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers

10/17 =96 San Jose,= CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX= +2 International Live Looping Festival

10/19 =96 Santa Cru= z, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping= Festival

10/20 =96 Santa Cru= z, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping= Festival

10/21 =96 Santa Cru= z, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping= Festival

10/24 =96 Sonora, C= A @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green

10/29 =96 Fort Foll= ins, CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists

10/30 =96 Lincoln, = NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band

10/30 =96 Omaha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians=


More info can be found on my website, including videos = and music.=A0

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
performer |= composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
www.jeanpaulderoover.com

--f46d04088d235f28bd04cb9193d4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 20:05:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A2D918345E; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=BnlqJivBTwEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=3_3b9OhyAAAA:8 a=CQDjkNr21qrMlmz3togA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rvzTUjpTADsA:10 a=BtbikuJGBgYA:10 a=g1lEOkp3XkoA:10 a=QI8qRd9gFeIA:10 a=QXLvlGW0YPke3UMGbKUA:9 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=EU_hVbgBpRXjkTDF:21 a=1tjqaQL0AM0UPNcVwqj5HA==:117 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:05:07 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <5e0fcf6a.4c214.13a41fb1efa.Webtop.48@charter.net> Subject: RE: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1128219_2132601184.1349726707435" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 48 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:05:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1128219_2132601184.1349726707435 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline JPdR, Well, as you are driving from Portland to Dunsmuir in the next couple of=20 days, wave as you drive through Medford. Best, Ted Killian On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: Hey everyone! I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that=20 I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you!=20 Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the=20 Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during=20 that week! 10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle, WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes &= THAW 10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @ Camellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pixton 10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Reku= s 10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @ House Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus 10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @ ZuhG Life (early) 10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @ Shine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival 10/14 =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The Y= Axes & Black=20 Cobra Vipers 10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =E2=80=93 Best of Y2KX+2= =20 International Live Looping Festival 10/19 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International= Live=20 Looping Festival 10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International= Live=20 Looping Festival 10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International= Live=20 Looping Festival 10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is Green 10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO @ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof & The S= ketch Artists 10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @ Cultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis B= rowne Band 10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally Rh= odes & Love=20 Technicians More info can be found on my website, including videos and music.=C2=A0 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com=20 (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com ------=_Part_1128219_2132601184.1349726707435 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
JPdR,

Well, as you are driving from Portland to Dunsmu= ir in the next couple of days, wave as you drive through Medford.
Best,
<= FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN= ING=3D"0">
Ted Killian

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote:

 H= ey everyone!

= I'm very excited to be touring the Western = US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with m= y tour dates listed:


If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful = to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are play= ing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor du= ring that week!


10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle, WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox T= heatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW
10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @ Camellia Loun= ge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pixton
10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @ Dunsmuir Brewer= y Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus
10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @ House Concert =E2= =80=93 w/Greg Rekus
10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @ ZuhG Life (early) =
10/13 =E2=80=93 = Sacramento, CA @ Shine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival
10/14= =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The= Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers
10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno Domini Ga= llery =E2=80=93 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/1= 9 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Inte= rnational Live Looping Festival
10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl= Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival <= /FONT>
10/21 =E2= =80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internati= onal Live Looping Festival
10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Go= od =E2=80=93 w/Grass is Green
10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO @ Art Lab =E2= =80=93 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists
10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @ C= ultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band
10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, = NE @ Side Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Tec= hnicians

<= FONT FACE=3D"Calibri" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN= ING=3D"0">
More info can be found = on my website, including videos and music.=C2=A0


--
Jean-Paul D= e Roover
performer | composer |= producer

(807) 251-3376 =

------=_Part_1128219_2132601184.1349726707435-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 20:07:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7ADB18345E; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=lpuqeZQKi8zNR+jj6Ili60rDVXesoDT/fG0OIjhLY2c=; b=KYzRuagMZoUwHH8HU3av7myV2hCekvGqutWw4XIUGApTyVZKio5ssWINSoJP75AcV6 Qbi3MWXLLguG+rTjZqRDb0MGSm6fUXgzfMSaq2KzsMxGHRLWF8hub7TCe4jOZRc/fbDQ FcS4/bP4tV5lBuw8mP57WFSDAWIB8djZ+GPGIYzAtPf11GF8ldq4grsXYZ9BITBX6LTQ fwAFP84ErQgKzlHWhrifkl5tNixkERY0MRTN3F4dQ8X9t2jM/sfr5UMvQTbVBmJd9r3N 172Un5KTO9MInuO00wgFnNxlc3hjoWXnszPnxFtF+lIbFA/7H6yWkfjrXuIQYGnr30MT Pf1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5e0fcf6a.4c214.13a41fb1efa.Webtop.48@charter.net> References: <5e0fcf6a.4c214.13a41fb1efa.Webtop.48@charter.net> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:06:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04083f3b50c69a04cb91c4cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:07:12 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04083f3b50c69a04cb91c4cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Want to do coffee again? On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wro= te: > JPdR, > > Well, as you are driving from Portland to Dunsmuir in the next couple of > days, wave as you drive through Medford. > > Best, > > Ted Killian > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > > Hey everyone! > > I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that I'm > here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: > > > If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! > Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the > Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that > week! > > > 10/08 =96 *Seattle, WA *@ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & > THAW > 10/09 =96 *Portland, OR *@ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton > 10/10 =96 *Dunsmuir, CA *@ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus > 10/11 =96 *Napa, CA *@ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus > 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA *@ ZuhG Life (early) > 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA *@ Shine (late) =96 *Shine Bat Festival * > 10/14 =96 *San Francisco, CA *@ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & > Black Cobra Vipers > 10/17 =96 *San Jose, CA *@ Anno Domini Gallery =96 *Best of Y2KX+2 > International Live Looping Festival * > 10/19 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA *@ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival * > 10/20 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA *@ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival * > 10/21 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA *@ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival * > 10/24 =96 *Sonora, CA *@ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green > 10/29 =96 *Fort Follins, CO *@ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch > Artists > 10/30 =96 *Lincoln, NE *@ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Ba= nd > 10/30 =96 *Omaha, NE *@ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & L= ove > Technicians > > > More info can be found on my website, including videos and music. > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > performer | composer | producer > > *me@jeanpaulderoover.com* > (807) 251-3376 > *www.jeanpaulderoover.com* > > --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --f46d04083f3b50c69a04cb91c4cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Want to do coffee again?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2= 012 at 4:05 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
JPdR,

Well, as you are driving from Port= land to Dunsmuir in the next couple of days, wave as you drive through Medf= ord.

Best,

Ted Killian


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:53 P= M, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote:

=A0Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be tourin= g the Western US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd sen= d out a message with my tour dates listed:

If you live in any of these towns, it&#= 39;d be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet thos= e of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll = share a meal and/or a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Seattle, WA @ Rendezvo= us Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW
10/09 =96 Portland, OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyr= styn Pixton
10/10 =96 Dunsmuir, CA @ = Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus
10/11 =96 Napa, CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Reku= s
10/13 =96 Sacramento, CA @ ZuhG Lif= e (early)
10/13 =96 Sacramento, CA @ Shine (late) =96 = Shine Bat Festival
10/14 =96 San = Francisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobr= a Vipers
10/17 =96 San Jose, CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 <= b>Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10= /19 =96 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internat= ional Live Looping Festival
10/20 = =96 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internationa= l Live Looping Festival
10/21 =96 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - <= b>Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10= /24 =96 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green
10/29 =96 Fort Follins, CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Sha= tterproof & The Sketch Artists
10/30 =96 Lincoln, NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt = & The Addis Browne Band
10/30 =96 Oma= ha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Techn= icians


More info can be found on= my website, including videos and music.=A0 <= /font>


--
Jean-Paul De= Roover
per= former | composer | producer


=



--
Jean-Paul De= Roover
ww= w.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
--f46d04083f3b50c69a04cb91c4cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 20:21:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B402183460; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=BnlqJivBTwEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=3_3b9OhyAAAA:8 a=EM4_njJe8zFVEQyTIpEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rvzTUjpTADsA:10 a=tRksERym6KwA:10 a=BtbikuJGBgYA:10 a=g1lEOkp3XkoA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=QI8qRd9gFeIA:10 a=ajXWlvBn2Aw3Lpfd8DQA:9 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=wicRKtrf1QHGTgpa:21 a=1tjqaQL0AM0UPNcVwqj5HA==:117 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <571cb32.4c4fe.13a4209d0b5.Webtop.48@charter.net> Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1130828_1152430298.1349727670434" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 48 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:21:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1130828_1152430298.1349727670434 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline JPdR, I would love to but it all depends on what time you are passing through. I work 9-5 daily, but can sometimes get away from the office. But it depends on what time of day (usually the afternoon is better). But if you happen driving through after 5pm That of course would be=20 fine. I wouldn't want to delay you getting to your gig in Dunsmuir on time=20 though. My mobile number is 541-890-6225, if you want to just play it by ear and=20 ring me when you hit town. Cheers, Ted On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: Want to do coffee again? On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn < tedkillian@charter.net= =20 >=20 wrote: JPdR, Well, as you are driving from Portland to Dunsmuir in the next couple of=20 days, wave as you drive through Medford. Best, Ted Killian On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: =C2=A0 Hey everyone! I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that=20 I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you!=20 Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the=20 Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during=20 that week! 10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle, WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes &= THAW 10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @ Camellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pixton 10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Reku= s 10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @ House Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus 10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @ ZuhG Life (early) 10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @ Shine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival 10/14 =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The Y= Axes & Black=20 Cobra Vipers 10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =E2=80=93 Best of Y2KX+2= =20 International Live Looping Festival 10/19 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International= Live=20 Looping Festival 10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International= Live=20 Looping Festival 10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International= Live=20 Looping Festival 10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is Green 10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO @ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof & The S= ketch Artists 10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @ Cultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis B= rowne Band 10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally Rh= odes & Love=20 Technicians More info can be found on my website, including videos and music.=C2=A0 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 ------=_Part_1130828_1152430298.1349727670434 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
JPdR,

I would love to but it all depends on what time = you are passing through.
I work 9-5 daily, but can sometimes get away from the office= .

But it d= epends on what time of day (usually the afternoon is better).
<= FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN= ING=3D"0">
But if you happen drivi= ng through after 5pm That of course would be fine. 

I wouldn't want to delay y= ou getting to your gig in Dunsmuir on time though.

My mobile number is 541-890-6225= , if you want to just play it by ear and ring me when you hit town.<= /DIV>
Cheers,
Ted
=
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at= 1:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote:

 Want to do coffee again? =

On= Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn < tedkillian@charter.net> wro= te:
JPdR,

Well, as you are driving fro= m Portland to Dunsmuir in the next couple of days, wave as you drive throug= h Medford.

Best,

Ted Killian


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jean-Paul De Roo= ver wrote:

=C2=A0 Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be touring the Weste= rn US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd send out a message wit= h my tour dates listed:


If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderf= ul to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are p= laying at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor= during that week!

=
10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle, WA @ Rendezvous Jewel= box Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW
10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @ Camellia= Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pixton
10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @ Dunsmuir Bre= wery Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus
10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @ House Concert =E2= =80=93 w/Greg Rekus
10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @ ZuhG Life (early) =
10/13 =E2=80=93 = Sacramento, CA @ Shine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival
10/14= =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The= Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers
10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno Domini Ga= llery =E2=80=93 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/1= 9 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Inte= rnational Live Looping Festival
10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl= Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival <= /FONT>
10/21 =E2= =80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internati= onal Live Looping Festival
10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Go= od =E2=80=93 w/Grass is Green
10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO @ Art Lab =E2= =80=93 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists
10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @ C= ultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band
10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, = NE @ Side Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Tec= hnicians


More info can be found on my website, including video= s and music.=C2=A0


--
Jean-Paul De Roover
perform= er | composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com





--
Jean-Paul De Roover
<= FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#3333FF" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN= ING=3D"0">= www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
------=_Part_1130828_1152430298.1349727670434-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 20:36:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CB5618345A; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=FcHaRAhRajZUgmmWmbIHq9ZUXabjcllwROlx9cNih1Q=; b=EwBVtBmPki8GnUBloNJX/gq1X/7py1YFzJzqLZ5lnXPbJCKqgXMx5SRNLs6hPNTmMl rOAxhQTimyiCpjVD/l/6MN9jWrKcpY6hXKi73OW9qrmuvBiqkT5RYf++MtjyPzf0puYb 1ZUO470PA1z/VQZW+FrmAJXsUrqG7ormzFCInNDuDvkCELTepgdYpCA+9GpPtim1fZSA xcdf8yZI6PuEPrTRAj3mvozwCJBT84OO+Uv6/piwkQcAVp7JkYGWoHFS8r1Up7pAxR8I +Un8hAKzRGKeGbpXoxgALcDhDGZ8eJLptEUGPyj7AdjmY1L3TIDTlmo2eLHSRGMtmq3R e6WA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <571cb32.4c4fe.13a4209d0b5.Webtop.48@charter.net> References: <571cb32.4c4fe.13a4209d0b5.Webtop.48@charter.net> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:36:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401fd51db186404cb922c1e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:36:26 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0401fd51db186404cb922c1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will do! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:21 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wro= te: > JPdR, > > I would love to but it all depends on what time you are passing through. > > I work 9-5 daily, but can sometimes get away from the office. > > But it depends on what time of day (usually the afternoon is better). > > But if you happen driving through after 5pm That of course would be fine. > > I wouldn't want to delay you getting to your gig in Dunsmuir on time > though. > > My mobile number is 541-890-6225, if you want to just play it by ear and > ring me when you hit town. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > > Want to do coffee again? > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn < *tedkillian@charter.net= *> > wrote: > JPdR, > > Well, as you are driving from Portland to Dunsmuir in the next couple of > days, wave as you drive through Medford. > > Best, > > Ted Killian > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > > Hey everyone! > > I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that I'm > here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: > > > If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! > Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the > Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that > week! > > > 10/08 =96 *Seattle, WA *@ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & > THAW > 10/09 =96 *Portland, OR *@ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton > 10/10 =96 *Dunsmuir, CA *@ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus > 10/11 =96 *Napa, CA *@ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus > 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA *@ ZuhG Life (early) > 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA *@ Shine (late) =96 *Shine Bat Festival * > 10/14 =96 *San Francisco, CA *@ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & > Black Cobra Vipers > 10/17 =96 *San Jose, CA *@ Anno Domini Gallery =96 *Best of Y2KX+2 > International Live Looping Festival * > 10/19 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA *@ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival * > 10/20 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA *@ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival * > 10/21 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA *@ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival * > 10/24 =96 *Sonora, CA *@ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green > 10/29 =96 *Fort Follins, CO *@ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch > Artists > 10/30 =96 *Lincoln, NE *@ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Ba= nd > 10/30 =96 *Omaha, NE *@ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & L= ove > Technicians > > > More info can be found on my website, including videos and music. > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > performer | composer | producer > > *me@jeanpaulderoover.com* > *(807) 251-3376* <%28807%29%20251-3376> > *www.jeanpaulderoover.com* > > > > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > *www.jeanpaulderoover.com* > (807) 251-3376 > --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --f46d0401fd51db186404cb922c1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will do!

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:21 PM, = tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
JPdR,
I would love to but it all depend= s on what time you are passing through.

I work 9-5 daily, but can sometimes g= et away from the office.

But it depends on what time of day= (usually the afternoon is better).

But if you happen driving through after 5pm That of course wou= ld be fine.=A0

I wouldn't want to delay you gett= ing to your gig in Dunsmuir on time though.

My mobi= le number is 541-890-6225, if you want to just play it by ear and ring me wh= en you hit town.

Cheers,

Ted

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote:
<= font face=3D"Verdana" color=3D"#000000">
=A0Want to do coffee again?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, = tEd =AE kiLLiAn < tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
JPd= R,

Well, as you are driving from Portland to Dunsmuir in the next couple of d= ays, wave as you drive through Medford.

Best, =

Ted Killi= an


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12= :53 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote:

=A0 Hey every= one!

<= /font>
I&= #39;m very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that I&#= 39;m here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: <= /font>

If you live in any of these towns, it&#= 39;d be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet thos= e of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll = share a meal and/or a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Seattle, WA @ Rendezvo= us Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW
10/09 =96 Portland, OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyr= styn Pixton
10/10 =96 Dunsmuir, CA @ = Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus
10/11 =96 Napa, CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Reku= s
10/13 =96 Sacramento, CA @ ZuhG Lif= e (early)
10/13 =96 Sacramento, CA @ Shine (late) =96 = Shine Bat Festival
10/14 =96 San = Francisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobr= a Vipers
10/17 =96 San Jose, CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 <= b>Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10= /19 =96 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internat= ional Live Looping Festival
10/20 = =96 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internationa= l Live Looping Festival
10/21 =96 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - <= b>Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10= /24 =96 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green
10/29 =96 Fort Follins, CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Sha= tterproof & The Sketch Artists
10/30 =96 Lincoln, NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt = & The Addis Browne Band
10/30 =96 Oma= ha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Techn= icians


More info can be found on= my website, including videos and music.=A0


--
Jean-Paul De= Roover
per= former | composer | producer




--
= Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
--f46d0401fd51db186404cb922c1e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 20:58:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB687183460; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bfcbf575-0ca3-4304-8b46-842e7547237b_" X-Originating-IP: [174.255.162.146] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:58:18 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2012 20:58:18.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[A498BB50:01CDA597] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:58:19 +0000 (UTC) --_bfcbf575-0ca3-4304-8b46-842e7547237b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok=2C then. See tomorrow night in Portland. JD Devros...... From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hey everyone! I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall=2C and now that I'm= here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: If you live in any of these towns=2C it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similar= ly=2C I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 = this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week! 10/08 =96 Seattle=2C WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW 10/09 =96 Portland=2C OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton 10/10 =96 Dunsmuir=2C CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus 10/11 =96 Napa=2C CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus 10/13 =96 Sacramento=2C CA @ ZuhG Life (early) 10/13 =96 Sacramento=2C CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival 10/14 =96 San Francisco=2C CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers 10/17 =96 San Jose=2C CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/19 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/20 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/21 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/24 =96 Sonora=2C CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green 10/29 =96 Fort Follins=2C CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists 10/30 =96 Lincoln=2C NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band 10/30 =96 Omaha=2C NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians More info can be found on my website=2C including videos and music.=20 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com = --_bfcbf575-0ca3-4304-8b46-842e7547237b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok=2C then. See tomorrow night i= n Portland.
JD Devros......

From:=3B me@jeanpaulderoover.c= om
Date:=3B Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 15:=3B53:=3B09 -0400
Subject&#= 58=3B US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To:=3B Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com

Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to b= e touring the Western US this fall=2C and now that I'm here I figured I'd s= end out a message with my tour dates listed:=3B

If you live in any of these towns=2C it'd be w= onderful to meet you! Similarly=2C I'm very excited to meet those of you th= at are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or= a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Sea= ttle=2C WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes &=3B THAW

10/09 =96 Por= tland=2C OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton

10/10 =96 Dun= smuir=2C CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus

10/11 =96 Nap= a=2C CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus

10/13 =96 Sac= ramento=2C CA @ ZuhG Life (early)

10/13 =96 Sac= ramento=2C CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival

10/14 =96 San= Francisco=2C CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes &=3B Black Cobra Vipers<= /span>

10/17 =96 San= Jose=2C CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Lo= oping Festival

10/19 =96 San= ta Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/20 =96 San= ta Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/21 =96 San= ta Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/24 =96 Son= ora=2C CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green

10/29 =96 For= t Follins=2C CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof &=3B The Sketch Artists

10/30 =96 Lin= coln=2C NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt &=3B The Addis Browne Band

10/30 =96 Oma= ha=2C NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes &=3B Love Technicians


More info can be found on my website=2C including video= s and music. =3B

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
perf= ormer | composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
www.jeanpaulderoover.com

= --_bfcbf575-0ca3-4304-8b46-842e7547237b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 20:59:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3308318345C; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2504c383-998b-42bf-a771-aac071259a6f_" X-Originating-IP: [174.255.162.146] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:59:07 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2012 20:59:11.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4551F10:01CDA597] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:59:13 +0000 (UTC) --_2504c383-998b-42bf-a771-aac071259a6f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok=2C then. See tomorrow night in Portland. JD Devros...... From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hey everyone! I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall=2C and now that I'm= here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: If you live in any of these towns=2C it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similar= ly=2C I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 = this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week! 10/08 =96 Seattle=2C WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW 10/09 =96 Portland=2C OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton 10/10 =96 Dunsmuir=2C CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus 10/11 =96 Napa=2C CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus 10/13 =96 Sacramento=2C CA @ ZuhG Life (early) 10/13 =96 Sacramento=2C CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival 10/14 =96 San Francisco=2C CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers 10/17 =96 San Jose=2C CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/19 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/20 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/21 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/24 =96 Sonora=2C CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green 10/29 =96 Fort Follins=2C CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists 10/30 =96 Lincoln=2C NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band 10/30 =96 Omaha=2C NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians More info can be found on my website=2C including videos and music.=20 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com = --_2504c383-998b-42bf-a771-aac071259a6f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok=2C then. See tomorrow night i= n Portland.
JD Devros......

From:=3B me@jeanpaulderoover.c= om
Date:=3B Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 15:=3B53:=3B09 -0400
Subject&#= 58=3B US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To:=3B Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com

Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to b= e touring the Western US this fall=2C and now that I'm here I figured I'd s= end out a message with my tour dates listed:=3B

If you live in any of these towns=2C it'd be w= onderful to meet you! Similarly=2C I'm very excited to meet those of you th= at are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or= a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Sea= ttle=2C WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes &=3B THAW

10/09 =96 Por= tland=2C OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton

10/10 =96 Dun= smuir=2C CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus

10/11 =96 Nap= a=2C CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus

10/13 =96 Sac= ramento=2C CA @ ZuhG Life (early)

10/13 =96 Sac= ramento=2C CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival

10/14 =96 San= Francisco=2C CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes &=3B Black Cobra Vipers<= /span>

10/17 =96 San= Jose=2C CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Lo= oping Festival

10/19 =96 San= ta Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/20 =96 San= ta Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/21 =96 San= ta Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/24 =96 Son= ora=2C CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green

10/29 =96 For= t Follins=2C CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof &=3B The Sketch Artists

10/30 =96 Lin= coln=2C NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt &=3B The Addis Browne Band

10/30 =96 Oma= ha=2C NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes &=3B Love Technicians


More info can be found on my website=2C including video= s and music. =3B

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
perf= ormer | composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
www.jeanpaulderoover.com

= --_2504c383-998b-42bf-a771-aac071259a6f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:02:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD47D183461; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=BFf4OlraJWONCvZhZLdEjZ72F8AK3cyw6n+1OftXhMA=; b=rhUJVMPksfoCY+doiGuMXGg+3cbyNWKyMjMoI5KV7ojs5Ez2uF91gU7kRZRwBDUgj+ OgBf5E2Ahv/9ydwUGpXbhnYOC3ZnnX3/3asX2oHnYTkLGbxnoVOI/x9j/W3ovYCD830d pXsq7tj5Z78QB2OX/z+Og5bSMOk27YDi97+XrL+/WvWfC5A9Qn6MXrAfhbTfCvenWdXe 45GB7IFJloGodRbaL7IIeUwSNnOET7u9HKZd03YB58hguidLpcFf0K3K7EmxuNm23Z5g SUEYBH5jxzIE2tVRCyXw3KW3V+b14F4a+MM1ywi4DvdBYS0vO01PM+5eNS3d0G5xRbU6 8pHg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba25db95405b2e04cb9289c8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:02:16 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba25db95405b2e04cb9289c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros wrote= : > Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Portland. > JD Devros...... > > ------------------------------ > From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 > Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hey everyone! > > I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that I'm > here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: > > If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! > Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the > Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that > week! > > 10/08 =96 *Seattle, WA* @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & T= HAW > > 10/09 =96 *Portland, OR* @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton > > 10/10 =96 *Dunsmuir, CA* @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus > > 10/11 =96 *Napa, CA* @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus > > 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA* @ ZuhG Life (early) > > 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA *@ Shine (late) =96 *Shine Bat Festival*** > > 10/14 =96 *San Francisco, CA* @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & > Black Cobra Vipers > > 10/17 =96 *San Jose, CA* @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 *Best of* *Y2KX+2 > International Live Looping Festival* > > 10/19 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival* > > 10/20 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival* > > 10/21 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival*** > > 10/24 =96 *Sonora, CA* @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green > > 10/29 =96 *Fort Follins, CO* @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Ar= tists > > 10/30 =96 *Lincoln, NE* @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Ba= nd > > 10/30 =96 *Omaha, NE* @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & L= ove > Technicians > > More info can be found on my website, including videos and music. > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > performer | composer | producer > > me@jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > > --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --90e6ba25db95405b2e04cb9289c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice!=A0

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, = Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Por= tland.
JD Devros......

From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oc= t 2012 15:53:09 -0400
Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com

Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be tour= ing the Western US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd s= end out a message with my tour dates listed:

If you live in any of these towns, = it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet = those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'= ;ll share a meal and/or a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Sea= ttle, WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW

10/09 =96 Por= tland, OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton

10/10 =96 Dun= smuir, CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus

10/11 =96 Nap= a, CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus

10/13 =96 Sac= ramento, CA @ ZuhG Life (early)

10/13 =96 Sac= ramento, CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival

10/14 =96 San= Francisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers

10/17 =96 San= Jose, CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Lo= oping Festival

10/19 =96 San= ta Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/20 =96 San= ta Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/21 =96 San= ta Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

10/24 =96 Son= ora, CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green

10/29 =96 For= t Follins, CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists

10/30 =96 Lin= coln, NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band

10/30 =96 Oma= ha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians=


More info can be found on my website, including videos = and music.=A0

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
performer |= composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
www.jeanpaulderoover.com




--
Jean-Paul De= Roover
ww= w.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
--90e6ba25db95405b2e04cb9289c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:07:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71D1818345E; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 714859.77182.bm@omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349730441; bh=SKnRn53pM9lZxhX+XQdMVW8q6pUvgFDvNxBQ2JbjZ48=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ozAOk7NuL5Ul4cL2KtMOCyUI5lCSNiK3x3myyQhw/0aPLAzwkh4T2zwRc15SgSTj+P8Y+jf4Fkdxc4N3SlKXfwbgN17vTol8h/aUOeq8rAZlN5980oIPxu+AaW3kheZCU5kflce5Bu0m6T7J6qqLTnJFkdjvG00yxoZnk+8uUBQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P6hs44NPPrYN/s8WFINw4TK49u7OgIT+8GUA0E1jPI+YXGh8DzEHYy3UM2kb6KZT+4YW0sMAmWpHXRjjUt3YYFO7iZ4g66B6rpdw3ciI8HdBrqeaJZd/ZLlLY2JurM9/IZM5v7aXEXBEfn+KLlG4M5JRkMF+5QWiT5zhz2+lyA0=; X-YMail-OSG: PtMwu1QVM1nXB7Q9n7..1ofV3fuPa9tJHmbHn2YmxVRv5fg xGujJlv7.kKvEGjW69hKxs596P5UEdk94bpPB_82UA0rRt47.qZUZGGUvXZt .dBWwTmqKK8uYnQu8Zu2KbO6fyEDOlfXKKKluwFAo0gEex3r.wrbdYgZtyTI xheNABkRHdsJtDkcY.weABc08u4bWlwSYn1CgE7AlNBHQSebfBpF30HUw16G 7tqrpQ3Mo33CmvYgLajVS9AEQPJ4BRThKawYq9J49G.7noFgS6GLzOpXN9IG wueSUX_qEgHf98SIy6crha1RRthLGJsp27U4..8kXxkpdK6IPm949IFYULi4 Go7jiixjORuklLJ_BkFdUtW7aFF4_mKnAH.nxFZy0i9LSBm4zuu62TodMsVq 2bmCgjkFWyO_L0MjuR2AJbgUUxl4h_RC3kSvT7zHA9X1jtOJnVFD30X6KG1Y nxxwjrQQ6Z9qFU62.fG6BNf0AYgC9rVtsh96tw8rXZAnIy28VFN9edBQnC3z z6SymhxWR5hs6DGHKhPB1N.KmXG4e2dauLcAqQHD.gtVQjilfOz3UTlz_4EA U76i7LHGIGEUkO0aD6RtLrphKqTEs5d4K48.xi4SDhcfhZSgoeWp1xr86tcw xVnmwbFh0g7vWtVzcdfkx0sG81BOk0LOqUpYIS17svCjepnOupVF9nu.HdNL o4x1qKWF7rnDEWUQ1eAbAgPoGIVGdM.YY9Ac4rn6rTh1JTgx1vP2hDXi3aB6 WE4REmNh_k5oKW9s7pJnED1oXKGIQKXmw8Ghi.tnpNx3gPIWFrSv8lZfNrr8 Q1wg1yUxqD9VoxqXcwgH0FEUySUsDeepFk49hXqWWaCY- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,Um9hZCBUcmlwICEhwqDCoMKgIEknbGzCoCBwdXQgaXQgb24gbXkgY2FsZW5kZXIgLi4uT21haGEgaXMgb25seSAyMzUgbWlsZXMgb2YgY29ybiBmaWVsZHMgZnJvbSBtZcKgIDstKQ0KDQpLeWxlIERlYW4gUGF0dGVuIA0KUC5PLiBCb3ggMjIgSm9obnN0b24sIElBwqAgNTAxMzENCsKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoCANCmh0dHA6Ly9sbWd0ZnkuY29tLz9xPUt5bGUrRGVhbitQYXR0ZW4rDQoNCmh0dHA6Ly95b3V0dS5iZS9NZ3kyZGJRSGtjNA0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jZGJhYnkuY29tL2NkL2tkcGF0dGUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1349730440.93253.YahooMailClassic@web112104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:07:20 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1187244388-2066082086-1349730440=:93253" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:07:23 +0000 (UTC) ---1187244388-2066082086-1349730440=:93253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Road Trip !!=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I'll=C2=A0 put it on my calender ...Omaha is= only 235 miles of corn fields from me=C2=A0 ;-) Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=C2=A0 50131 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+ http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten --- On Mon, 10/8/12, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: "loopers-delight" Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 2:53 PM Hey everyone! I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that I'm h= ere I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed:=0A=0A If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly= , I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this= year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week!=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle, WA @= =0ARendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW=0A=0A10/09 =E2=80=93 = Portland, OR @=0ACamellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pixton=0A=0A10/10 =E2= =80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @=0ADunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus=0A=0A= 10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @=0AHouse Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus=0A=0A10/1= 3 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA=0A@ ZuhG Life (early)=0A=0A10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacra= mento, CA @=0AShine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival=0A=0A10/14 =E2=80= =93 San Francisco, CA=0A@ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The Y Axes & Bl= ack Cobra Vipers=0A=0A10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno=0ADomini Gallery = =E2=80=93 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival=0A=0A10/19 =E2= =80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live L= ooping Festival=0A=0A10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios= - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival=0A=0A10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cr= uz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival= =0A=0A10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @=0AThe Greater Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is = Green=0A=0A10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO=0A@ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatter= proof & The Sketch Artists=0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @=0ACultiva =E2= =80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band=0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE= @=0ASide Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians= =0A=0A More info can be found on my website, including videos and music.=C2=A0 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com =0A=0A(807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com =0A=0A ---1187244388-2066082086-1349730440=:93253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Road Trip !!    I'll&nbs= p; put it on my calender ...Omaha is only 235 miles of corn fields from me&= nbsp; ;-)

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnsto= n, IA  50131
      =       
http://lmgtfy.com= /?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+

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--- On Mon, 10/8/12, Jean-Paul De Roov= er <me@jeanpaulderoover.com> wrote:

From: Jean-Paul De Roover <me@jeanpaulderoover.com>
Su= bject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To: "loopers-delight" <Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 2:53 PM=

Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that I'm = here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed:=0A=0A

If you live in any of = these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to = meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I= 'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week!
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10/09 =E2=80=93= Portland, OR @=0ACamellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pix= ton

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10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @= =0ADunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus

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10= /11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @=0AHouse Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg= Rekus

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10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @=0AShine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival

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10/14 = =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA=0A@ 50 Mason Social House =E2= =80=93 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers

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10/17 = =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno=0ADomini Gallery =E2=80=93 = Best of Y2K= X+2 International Live Looping Festival

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10/19= =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival

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10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ P= earl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live = Looping Festival

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10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - = Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival=

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10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @=0AThe Greate= r Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is Green

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10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO=0A@ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof & = The Sketch Artists

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10/30 =E2=80=93 Linc= oln, NE @=0ACultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band=

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10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE @=0ASide Door Loung= e =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians

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More info can be found on my website, including vide= os and music. 

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Jean-Paul De Roover
perfo= rmer | composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
=0A=0A(807) 251-3376
w= ww.jeanpaulderoover.com

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---1187244388-2066082086-1349730440=:93253-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:13:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FA61183463; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 304 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 21:13:50 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c271ce66-a666-4543-876d-22ba4e5d5135_" X-Originating-IP: [174.255.162.146] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:08:43 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2012 21:08:45.0482 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A61F8A0:01CDA599] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:13:51 +0000 (UTC) --_c271ce66-a666-4543-876d-22ba4e5d5135_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And what time? From: j.de.roover@gmail.com Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400 Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Nice!=20 On Mon=2C Oct 8=2C 2012 at 4:59 PM=2C Jeremy devros wrote: Ok=2C then. See tomorrow night in Portland. JD Devros...... From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hey everyone! I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall=2C and now that I'm= here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: If you live in any of these towns=2C it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similar= ly=2C I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 = this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week! 10/08 =96 Seattle=2C WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW 10/09 =96 Portland=2C OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton 10/10 =96 Dunsmuir=2C CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus 10/11 =96 Napa=2C CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus 10/13 =96 Sacramento=2C CA @ ZuhG Life (early) 10/13 =96 Sacramento=2C CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival 10/14 =96 San Francisco=2C CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers 10/17 =96 San Jose=2C CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/19 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/20 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/21 =96 Santa Cruz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival 10/24 =96 Sonora=2C CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green 10/29 =96 Fort Follins=2C CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists 10/30 =96 Lincoln=2C NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band 10/30 =96 Omaha=2C NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians More info can be found on my website=2C including videos and music.=20 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com =20 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 = --_c271ce66-a666-4543-876d-22ba4e5d5135_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And what time?

From&#= 58=3B j.de.roover@gmail.com
Date:=3B Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 17:=3B01= 8=3B55 -0400
Subject:=3B Re:=3B US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2To:=3B Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Nice! =3B
On Mon=2C Oct 8=2C 2012 at 4:=3B59 PM=2C = Jeremy devros <=3Bdeafrose58@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:=3B
Ok=2C then. See tomorrow night in Po= rtland.
JD Devros......

From:=3B me@jeanpaulderoover.com
Date:=3B Mon=2C 8= Oct 2012 15:=3B53:=3B09 -0400
Subject:=3B US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To:=3B Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com

Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be tour= ing the Western US this fall=2C and now that I'm here I figured I'd send ou= t a message with my tour dates listed:=3B

= If you live in any of these= towns=2C it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly=2C I'm very excited to m= eet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll = share a meal and/or a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Seattle= =2C WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes &=3B THAW
10/09 =96 Portland= =2C OR @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton
10/10 =96 Dunsmuir= =2C CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus
10/11 =96 Napa=2C = CA @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus
10/13 =96 Sacramen= to=2C CA @ ZuhG Life (early)
10/13 =96 Sacramen= to=2C CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival
10/14 =96 San Fran= cisco=2C CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes &=3B Black Cobra Vipers<= /span>
10/17 =96 San Jose= =2C CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Lo= oping Festival
10/19 =96 Santa Cr= uz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/20 =96 Santa Cr= uz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/21 =96 Santa Cr= uz=2C CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/24 =96 Sonora= =2C CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green
10/29 =96 Fort Fol= lins=2C CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof &=3B The Sketch Artists
10/30 =96 Lincoln= =2C NE @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt &=3B The Addis Browne Band
10/30 =96 Omaha=2C= NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes &=3B Love Technicians

More info can be found on my website=2C including video= s and music. =3B

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
perf= ormer | composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
www.jeanpaulderoover.com




--
Jean-Paul De R= oover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
= --_c271ce66-a666-4543-876d-22ba4e5d5135_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:16:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16A2B18345E; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=ppgCFapQsn1frBsw6+N7Z4tAJVTj3Ouhg8muFSQ29XA=; b=TdcxbZ0oQFkFS05fH0oNaP8BG+hEG0r9tHrWUSC1cydY0BUwwwuNL/Z/Wy5LKV26Tr TLVxuFSCXtb/9XE5Qq70CsJlSzxSPNvvuenXRDDlW7mvBfrAZmCH8nLa7mqeOJckT+xD k1c8QWFEWjKyc36QUEwDmagll9Arb5co5bvTYlGzWqoPb70t0N7lctjl/NshhiJ48bUW K1DAjVMEO5I52Y1bhrtidinNHYUT9+FJyJw5RGHrFA8A5If82IcBLv9k8t9MaF0nfH7/ kFGlF0cKA/lA9A9OjmEcWxQBcfW0eWadXYHoEkB/EJ7+qPhApsxoXJlLBccmRmkIW5Bt KjAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: soliciting participation in "Touch the Loopers" From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5186a8c7744da04cb92bda0 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlZd+C2HnIgeI7SBaoW6h7cf1pJz0k7vi4lyL78wSjsjzzlldK8FfDlqxIbD/y/AmHOPqML Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:16:51 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5186a8c7744da04cb92bda0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > How late will this "Touch the Looper" evening be going? I have = > rehearsal until about 8pm, and I am 1.5 hours away. > It will probably be going to at least 11pm assuming people are having fun, and there's no hard stop. ...Tim... --bcaec5186a8c7744da04cb92bda0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How late will this "Touch the Looper" evening be going? =A0I have= =3D
rehearsal until about 8pm, and I am 1.5 hours away.
It will probably be going to at least 11pm assuming people are= having fun, and there's no hard stop.

=A0 =A0= =A0...Tim...
--bcaec5186a8c7744da04cb92bda0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:24:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE84F183461; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=YPDh0ba6uz/LrBev2OtkT9sNk+QNsI7PhXijTiOuDUQ=; b=GUaKr2AqMoDxKVSdYpGi9pfEJF1GlZ1IPKsVEpuZPrnApvJ5QwrljFpwrR77OF7WvQ nHvXYtWXLhXAX7UiH+puDjRgJcFlCQ26+FF2l7QG/2UIG0fvtBn4gnURqbmItC50g46o KJcxfJnXqrJ1tdWfA3sibbweyR3MGDS4Jw/scgr6FaQgZ/rUpq8yhEbF93CY9XijQhhZ 0GxX/9P3gX03NrRKlTu9hrFdue24seUH7vw3VGxkK9XUKdnq6H6OexrMqh9PiCZdj/u7 Sj7iiCN445bMCRDh/6VbrpS03JcrNnRy5q/y7rFC1F8wZQfNWFQAghKVxwbk9MNULSLd DhQQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:24:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554de1802adb504cb92da5d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:24:51 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec554de1802adb504cb92da5d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.com/tour or if you're into Facebook, the details are here: https://www.facebook.com/events/381777488564102 See you tomorrow! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy devros wrote= : > And what time? > > ------------------------------ > From: j.de.roover@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Nice! > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros wro= te: > > Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Portland. > JD Devros...... > > ------------------------------ > From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 > Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hey everyone! > > I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that > I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: > > If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! > Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the > Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that > week! > > 10/08 =96 *Seattle, WA* @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & T= HAW > 10/09 =96 *Portland, OR* @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton > 10/10 =96 *Dunsmuir, CA* @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus > 10/11 =96 *Napa, CA* @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus > 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA* @ ZuhG Life (early) > 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA *@ Shine (late) =96 *Shine Bat Festival*** > 10/14 =96 *San Francisco, CA* @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & > Black Cobra Vipers > 10/17 =96 *San Jose, CA* @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 *Best of* *Y2KX+2 > International Live Looping Festival* > 10/19 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival* > 10/20 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival* > 10/21 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International > Live Looping Festival*** > 10/24 =96 *Sonora, CA* @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green > 10/29 =96 *Fort Follins, CO* @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Ar= tists > 10/30 =96 *Lincoln, NE* @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Ba= nd > 10/30 =96 *Omaha, NE* @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & L= ove > Technicians > > More info can be found on my website, including videos and music. > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > performer | composer | producer > > me@jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > > > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --bcaec554de1802adb504cb92da5d Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.com/tour or if you're into Facebook, the = details are here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/381777488564102

See you tomorrow!

O= n Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com= > wrote:
And what time?

From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
Date: Mo= n, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400
Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX= +2

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Nice!=A0

=
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmai= l.com> wrote:
Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Portland.
JD = Devros......

From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:= 09 -0400
Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com

Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be tour= ing the Western US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd s= end out a message with my tour dates listed:

If you live in any of these towns, = it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet = those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'= ;ll share a meal and/or a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Seattle, WA<= /b> @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW
10/09 =96 Portland, OR= @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton
10/10 =96 Dunsmuir, CA= @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus
10/11 =96 Napa, CA= @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus
10/13 =96 Sacramento, = CA @ ZuhG Life (early)
10/13 =96 Sacramento, = CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival
10/14 =96 San Francisc= o, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers
10/17 =96 San Jose, CA= @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Lo= oping Festival
10/19 =96 Santa Cruz, = CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/20 =96 Santa Cruz, = CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/21 =96 Santa Cruz, = CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/24 =96 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green
10/29 =96 Fort Follins= , CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists
10/30 =96 Lincoln, NE<= /b> @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band
10/30 =96 Omaha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians=

More info can be found on my website, including videos = and music.=A0

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
performer |= composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
www.jeanpaulderoover.com




--
Jean-Paul De= Roover
ww= w.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376



--
Jean-Paul De= Roover
ww= w.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
--bcaec554de1802adb504cb92da5d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:29:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D1BF18347D; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=JszULBAQvVkpPZbPYNJCe3UOX71VYysBIApy78gSMRI=; b=GQtvXGA478Q4hs1HcuUUr/OSUuWs5vGPK7VIxk247KO8T0hPaeyN01Y0VoyTxmpNPX v8vutyBq/rn0UdR4AGLsIiIv3kjLEdOSMxuUHwcXiPkdHXqRYvmJwL7owNbGCMm1Om95 rwKoDK2zjoHcupAOdLP0I5cmmRh5/xOd+4d4TLywDyAofrC4v9cxowjPbm/MjCVkxDSw 7hxbEk/l7gxNIkAomaL/7ykmlLQvYLvZdIugMKv1UMD1yYNJYIHXRGnuU9JOjm/Jft4l PWOQT5WjRrBw5ewlVAPgMS6/i8DthRBExDzbodj23Gfx7qq7UIR8e5m56Ah2bfXy0aiR sLWQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04088d232d98f204cb92eb11 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:29:39 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04088d232d98f204cb92eb11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's not a short trip, Kyle! If you made it, I'd buy you a beer! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > 8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.com/tour or if you're into > Facebook, the details are here: > https://www.facebook.com/events/381777488564102 > > See you tomorrow! > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy devros wro= te: > >> And what time? >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: j.de.roover@gmail.com >> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400 >> Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Nice! >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros wr= ote: >> >> Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Portland. >> JD Devros...... >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com >> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 >> Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Hey everyone! >> >> I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that >> I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: >> >> If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! >> Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the >> Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during tha= t >> week! >> >> 10/08 =96 *Seattle, WA* @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & >> THAW >> 10/09 =96 *Portland, OR* @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton >> 10/10 =96 *Dunsmuir, CA* @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus >> 10/11 =96 *Napa, CA* @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus >> 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA* @ ZuhG Life (early) >> 10/13 =96 *Sacramento, CA *@ Shine (late) =96 *Shine Bat Festival*** >> 10/14 =96 *San Francisco, CA* @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & >> Black Cobra Vipers >> 10/17 =96 *San Jose, CA* @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 *Best of* *Y2KX+2 >> International Live Looping Festival* >> 10/19 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International >> Live Looping Festival* >> 10/20 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International >> Live Looping Festival* >> 10/21 =96 *Santa Cruz, CA* @ Pearl Alley Studios - *Y2KX+2 International >> Live Looping Festival*** >> 10/24 =96 *Sonora, CA* @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green >> 10/29 =96 *Fort Follins, CO* @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch >> Artists >> 10/30 =96 *Lincoln, NE* @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne B= and >> 10/30 =96 *Omaha, NE* @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & = Love >> Technicians >> >> More info can be found on my website, including videos and music. >> >> -- >> Jean-Paul De Roover >> performer | composer | producer >> >> me@jeanpaulderoover.com >> (807) 251-3376 >> www.jeanpaulderoover.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jean-Paul De Roover >> www.jeanpaulderoover.com >> (807) 251-3376 >> > > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --f46d04088d232d98f204cb92eb11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's not a short trip, Kyle! If you made it, I'd buy you a beer!<= br>



--
= Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
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Box 22 Johnston, IA=C2=A0 50131 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+ http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten --- On Mon, 10/8/12, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 4:29 PM That's not a short trip, Kyle! If you made it, I'd buy you a beer! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover = wrote: =0A=0A8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.com/tour or if you're = into Facebook, the details are here:=0A=0Ahttps://www.facebook.com/events/3= 81777488564102=0A See you tomorrow! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy devros wrot= e: =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAnd what time? From: j.de.roover@gmail.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400 Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2=0A=0A=0A=0A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Nice!=C2=A0 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros wrot= e: =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOk, then. See tomorrow night in Portland. JD Devros...... From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASubject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hey everyone! =0A=0AI'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that= I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed:=0A=0A If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly= , I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this= year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week!=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle, WA @= =0ARendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW =0A=0A10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @=0ACamellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn = Pixton =0A=0A10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @=0ADunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/G= reg Rekus =0A=0A10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @=0AHouse Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus =0A=0A10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA=0A@ ZuhG Life (early) =0A=0A10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @=0AShine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat F= estival =0A=0A10/14 =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA=0A@ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93= w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers =0A=0A10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno=0ADomini Gallery =E2=80=93 Best o= f Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival =0A=0A10/19 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Inter= national Live Looping Festival =0A=0A10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Inter= national Live Looping Festival =0A=0A10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Inter= national Live Looping Festival =0A=0A10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @=0AThe Greater Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is = Green =0A=0A10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO=0A@ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof= & The Sketch Artists =0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @=0ACultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The= Addis Browne Band =0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE @=0ASide Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short= /Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians =0A=0A More info can be found on my website, including videos and music.=C2=A0 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A(807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com =0A=0A =09=09 =09 =09=09 =0A --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =09=09 =09 =09=09 =0A --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 =0A ---32580766-852521343-1349734775=:96845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks man ..sounds like a deal ;-)....= I'll do my best to make it....sounds like a great road trip and show

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  5013= 1
        &nbs= p;   
http://lmgtfy.com= /?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+

http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/k= dpatten
http://www.myspace= .com/kyledeanpatten
http://www.linkedin.com/in/ky= ledeanpatten

--- On Mon, 10/8/12, Jean-Paul De Roov= er <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com>
Subject:= Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 4:29 PM

That's not a short trip, Kyle! If you made it, I'd buy you a beer!
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM= , Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A=0A<= blockquote class=3D"yiv1740399242gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo= rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
8 PM! More details are at = www.jeanpaulderoover.com/tour or if you're into Facebook, the = details are here:
=0A=0Ahttps://www.facebook.com/e= vents/381777488564102
=0A
See you tomorrow!

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy = devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com> wrote:
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
And wh= at time?

From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400
Sub= ject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
=0A=0A=0A=0A

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Nice! 

On= Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com>= wrote:
=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
Hey everyone!

=0A
=0AI'm very excited to be touring the W= estern US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd send out a message= with my tour dates listed:
=0A=0A

If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you= ! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the = Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that w= eek!
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A

=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A10/08 =E2=80=93 = Seattle, WA @=0ARendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & TH= AW
=0A=0A10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @=0ACamellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrsty= n Pixton
=0A=0A10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @=0ADunsmuir Brewery Works =E2= =80=93 w/Greg Rekus
=0A=0A10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @=0AHouse Concert =E2=80= =93 w/Greg Rekus
=0A=0A10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA=0A@ ZuhG Life (early)<= /font>
=0A=0A10= /13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @=0AShine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine = Bat Festival
=0A=0A10/14 =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA=0A@ 50 M= ason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers
=0A=0A10/17 =E2= =80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno=0ADomini Gallery =E2=80=93 Best of<= /i> Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
=0A=0A10/19 =E2=80= =93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internatio= nal Live Looping Festival
=0A=0A10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@= Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival=
=0A=0A10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2= KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
= =0A=0A10/24 =E2=80=93 = Sonora, CA @=0AThe Greater Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is Green
=0A=0A10/29 =E2=80= =93 Fort Follins, CO=0A@ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof & The = Sketch Artists
=0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @=0ACultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy= Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band
=0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE @=0ASid= e Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians
=0A=0A

More = info can be found on my website, including videos and music. 

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
performer | composer | producer
me@jeanpaulde= roover.com
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A(807) 251-337= 6
www.jeanpaulderoover.com

=0A
=0A =09=09 =09 = =09=09
=0A



--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com<= /a>
(807) 251-3376
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =09=09 =09= =09=09 =0A


--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.c= om
(807) 251-3376
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A


--
Je= an-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
= =0A
---32580766-852521343-1349734775=:96845-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 22:26:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5710B18345C; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 250212.7659.bm@omp1017.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349735164; bh=PuMmD5fWAmKo+O3M5B8imLJBxLZQrthkiScPnXDJkpE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hsjSqNh7ShJaSYRzf7+nW6FzkjUz76uwb/fHTBu26lgU4U+XYhRC06oVtkJ1C69GevdhlVNscOUUQyb4M5ZDLUHg/RSEaBfrdX2BUATct/G5VB91B4IgwhcXhagtB/DI4BEZ8YHbEkcPXF2pBMToQRzwtJmAlIyopHn7IpvGh2o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oFEM55C2IM++S3pfz8Oj5vLNeUWXR0HfoIG7+wGizaGTVq5jySaxPdK8kMhaME1uZ+zknrHQriH4r9quGKzRpnPgeaRxaviKIJwun7W5zdx7si79Tt3O5VvoyxL9FYMKlN9KAscZTF1gcFKUtBmbd2hv3k6689zAA6DdMNqq5Yg=; X-YMail-OSG: 49EhHEkVM1nHaD4PgE4rdCpLPBwzpAJEK1qdRflRXPNqUtR DQR8- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SGV5IHlvdXIgTGluY29sbiBhbmQgT21haGEgc2hvd3MgYXJlIG9uIHRoZSBzYW1lIGRheS4uLi4uLi5hIHR3byBnaWcgZGF5IC4ub3IgdHlwbw0KDQpLeWxlIERlYW4gUGF0dGVuIA0KUC5PLiBCb3ggMjIgSm9obnN0b24sIElBwqAgNTAxMzENCsKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoCANCmh0dHA6Ly9sbWd0ZnkuY29tLz9xPUt5bGUrRGVhbitQYXR0ZW4rDQoNCmh0dHA6Ly95b3V0dS5iZS9NZ3kyZGJRSGtjNA0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jZGJhYnkuY29tL2NkL2tkcGF0dGVuIA0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5teXNwYWMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1349735164.19625.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:26:04 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="372854288-158047678-1349735164=:19625" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:26:07 +0000 (UTC) --372854288-158047678-1349735164=:19625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey your Lincoln and Omaha shows are on the same day.......a two gig day ..= or typo Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=C2=A0 50131 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+ http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten --- On Mon, 10/8/12, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 4:29 PM That's not a short trip, Kyle! If you made it, I'd buy you a beer! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover = wrote: =0A=0A8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.com/tour or if you're = into Facebook, the details are here:=0A=0Ahttps://www.facebook.com/events/3= 81777488564102=0A See you tomorrow! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy devros wrot= e: =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAnd what time? From: j.de.roover@gmail.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400 Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2=0A=0A=0A=0A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Nice!=C2=A0 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros wrot= e: =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOk, then. See tomorrow night in Portland. JD Devros...... From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASubject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hey everyone! =0A=0AI'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that= I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed:=0A=0A If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly= , I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this= year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week!=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle, WA @= =0ARendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW =0A=0A10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @=0ACamellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn = Pixton =0A=0A10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @=0ADunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/G= reg Rekus =0A=0A10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @=0AHouse Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus =0A=0A10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA=0A@ ZuhG Life (early) =0A=0A10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @=0AShine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat F= estival =0A=0A10/14 =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA=0A@ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93= w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers =0A=0A10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno=0ADomini Gallery =E2=80=93 Best o= f Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival =0A=0A10/19 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Inter= national Live Looping Festival =0A=0A10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Inter= national Live Looping Festival =0A=0A10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Inter= national Live Looping Festival =0A=0A10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @=0AThe Greater Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is = Green =0A=0A10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO=0A@ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof= & The Sketch Artists =0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @=0ACultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The= Addis Browne Band =0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE @=0ASide Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short= /Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians =0A=0A More info can be found on my website, including videos and music.=C2=A0 --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover performer | composer | producer me@jeanpaulderoover.com =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A(807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com =0A=0A =09=09 =09 =09=09 =0A --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =09=09 =09 =09=09 =0A --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 =0A --372854288-158047678-1349735164=:19625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --372854288-158047678-1349735164=:19625-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 23:06:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBB29183460; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 23:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=gtT4MpUPiJlstKJZ35TGmAM8wJZ/SFAWtvMo+aJT1+Lrd0PxuldcriDlyIdSfDJl; h=Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: Paul Sullivan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:06:38 -0400 Message-Id: <46883CD5-62A7-40C4-8ED7-849126F16AFB@earthlink.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c820f37fc072eb0a153d594fd851fd8e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.131.192.43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 23:06:50 +0000 (UTC) After wasting time wading through 6 or 8 digests today (I usually get = one digest a day) that contain only 1 or 2 emails with a ton of old = conversation filling out the bandwidth that are only posts from two = people back and forth, I have to say: has anyone ever heard of TRIMMING = THEIR POSTS before they hit send, or taking stuff off-list for things = like this that no one else is interested in wading through?=20 Sorry to be grouchy, but it's a pet peeve. I do hope you both have a = wonderful time at the festival! Paul= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 23:16:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93D3B18345D; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 23:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=w+6qfBtxeu4Qu6dzFm1NEO6h/LHWtQKBfiS3H0q+6EA=; b=KwwQRDSn7kFdRg0ZkdU2W1ytqKWuOTprSSN1o1gyk2v6GEPSEI8mMcZ+RCXGHymkb6 w4bhpjnGS1tfbfwpMAyRnkPI1AHRf6mElB+UdUG4EUTtfEbmM09Xjqhi8wPMx9lp005w 3cU4+mw88QHWAY7Vl50s3ziWKOVLkn/kfaLCUMx3ifV9x0DOTbF6+KxnhFMaPbqwwpRZ KJSDmtPUtmnLTqNWN4atSJ4+m71MlRNyrBD7j+ScN/oumFPbUZq+WJwunjfbZT48v0Wo OyUziJKYwg2uKLFDoPpLEb6us6E6lzSn1Q6OYF03HOh+3wu2XvdjubbMrR6zNgvUOuW5 BRiQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Interface recommendations From: Philip In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:16:52 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 23:16:59 +0000 (UTC) I've been researching interfaces and posts on the various forums seem to = invariably end up with people defending their own expensive purchases = and/or troll fests.=20 I know this isn't exactly live-looping, but considering that this is = probably one of the few places where I can hope to get some solid = discussion on the topic without things going off the rails, I've decided = to ask for your thoughts. My main instrument is guitar. I use an AxeFx2 for my electric and = acoustic guitars and bass. Apart from that I have a room full of old = Roland gear Juno60, 808, 909, 303s 202 etc. I don't use any microphones, = so mic pres aren't really an issue. I like leaving stuff plugged in, so = a lot of inputs is important. I use Logic on a 2011 iMac. The interfaces I have been thinking of are MOTU 828mk3, Saffire, or = something by RME. If I decide to expand, it would be nice to be able to = daisy chain two units together and use them in my DAW with minimal fuss.=20= I don't like messing around with things. If I'm playing the guitar or a = synth and I stumble on something I like, I just want to be able to start = recording.=20 AD quality is important, though because a lot of my gear doesn't have = any way to save presets and the chances of my being able to stumble = across my original settings in order to re-record it through good gear = at a later time is probably nill. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. Philip From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 00:16:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA65A18345E; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 00:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=imeqqC5e+BYT7X1k7iu4es+YwdS3KbLJPc/hAx775KY=; b=cw/JVxYB/BvH/sau0vtNfVbPJjMhRoymRUSpoqfqIPanEa3tKLZ7q1iWFjRslhzoMP JMQ0nlhqu1qAAvKhfxBPSz7kfdrHVrR+3I815h1+u6HP+uthcbQ9rkSF4nNt/dBffqnO emG8qn6GmG1z2EZv78evagoO+cEuY1Ox93byPcf6w9BIsreEOfExVGzoWvgLYGjFzYH7 oVJWg6PrtrFCc/SGCD8HtlJNzLhhcuqvRR1ZypeWZ4yMrpyMikHGF6xRgfmYp+Byrn6C fyExyCNp/9bxnuw/PI2OWyHFZvGFLKZlAbIqEremgr1gmq/inSoRjy+XbnK/YF3gIrPK rIyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:16:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 00:16:21 +0000 (UTC) I can vouch for the fireface 800 if that's what your looking at from RME. Very good quality, lots of IO, but the clincher for me is the stability of the drivers on OS X... I've had no issues at all since acquiring it last year (I had to wait a year before upgrading to Lion). In all my years playing music with computers, this has been the only no hassle audio interface I've own. It's also the most expensive I've ever bought, so maybe there's a link there (or maybe I'm just trying to justify my expensive purchase). I haven't looked at daisy chaining, since I only have one and I don't need more I/O, but it can serve as a firewire hub for other RME units (I think). The killer feature is all the routing you can do within the unit from inputs to outputs back to inputs... you can create routing presets and select them via midi (this even works without a computer). This allows you to keep things plugged in, yet maintain flexibility in your audio path. I'm sure there are other good options, this is just the one that made the most sense for me. As always when buying equipment, its probably more useful to make a list of features that important to you and comparing that to what's on offer. Here are some of the things I was considering when I decided on FF800: - great preamps - at least 8 ins and outs - digital outs - firewire hub (for external HD when recording) - stand alone use - stability with OS X - midi controllable - fits in my case (1U) - lots of sampling rate options - good reviews for sound quality - in-device routing of ins and outs Sylvain On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Philip wrote: > I've been researching interfaces and posts on the various forums seem to = invariably end up with people defending their own expensive purchases and/o= r troll fests. > > I know this isn't exactly live-looping, but considering that this is prob= ably one of the few places where I can hope to get some solid discussion on= the topic without things going off the rails, I've decided to ask for your= thoughts. > > My main instrument is guitar. I use an AxeFx2 for my electric and acousti= c guitars and bass. Apart from that I have a room full of old Roland gear J= uno60, 808, 909, 303s 202 etc. I don't use any microphones, so mic pres are= n't really an issue. I like leaving stuff plugged in, so a lot of inputs is= important. I use Logic on a 2011 iMac. > > The interfaces I have been thinking of are MOTU 828mk3, Saffire, or somet= hing by RME. If I decide to expand, it would be nice to be able to daisy ch= ain two units together and use them in my DAW with minimal fuss. > > I don't like messing around with things. If I'm playing the guitar or a s= ynth and I stumble on something I like, I just want to be able to start rec= ording. > > AD quality is important, though because a lot of my gear doesn't have any= way to save presets and the chances of my being able to stumble across my = original settings in order to re-record it through good gear at a later tim= e is probably nill. > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts. > > Philip > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 03:25:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39E9518345E; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 03:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=SEk2Gh3lbE895xtvLj6XMJDT8NIfU5aQ3795+hl6jGY=; b=Z9aaTxD8UhtgmT8IHhKqVsMYluSHp9GAUEpundwKJUrBuZvxQ0ahJAIqGJ9L8PXlaL CFsVoCs+Mum9PT9Vq+JPwcPN3G3nX1VJMVQ7DDlUaqZlCy3YA1eLOm82epdbk3SENYvD 0Vdg9xqYDlyWTljw3mm4oO60z0wzaUhzsKAhF6HXY4tPxbrDimPfz1iYLObCHOaSYXed muo7wfgLkI+Zeku0eRVFPfCfTG3sKDu6sLUH8ajNH3umaKKr8nFAB9P1pZmejOF0W34G 8WNwnA758YMLK3Oa8m9p5IfGUGVpql4shIRBQTfLCExZHKOVSGtIeHpHyLZ37cxU40v6 Z1/A== Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 References: <1349735164.19625.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-F3B377A3-FCC9-4CDB-B34C-CC8DB3EAF396 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <1349735164.19625.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <50A01995-981C-4E30-8E91-CD33D8AF2B9F@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:25:31 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 03:25:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-F3B377A3-FCC9-4CDB-B34C-CC8DB3EAF396 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Nope, I'm pulling double duty! Lincoln at 6, Omaha at 10! Jean-Paul De Roover (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com *Sent from my phone.* On 2012-10-08, at 3:26 PM, K D Patten wrote: > Hey your Lincoln and Omaha shows are on the same day.......a two gig day .= .or typo >=20 > Kyle Dean Patten=20 > P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA 50131 > =20 > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+ >=20 > http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 > http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten >=20 > --- On Mon, 10/8/12, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: >=20 > From: Jean-Paul De Roover > Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 4:29 PM >=20 > That's not a short trip, Kyle! If you made it, I'd buy you a beer! >=20 > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > 8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.com/tour or if you're into = Facebook, the details are here: > https://www.facebook.com/events/381777488564102 >=20 > See you tomorrow! >=20 > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy devros wro= te: > And what time? >=20 > From: j.de.roover@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 >=20 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Nice!=20 >=20 > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros wro= te: > Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Portland. > JD Devros...... >=20 > From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400 > Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hey everyone! >=20 > I'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that I'm h= ere I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed: >=20 > If you live in any of these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarl= y, I'm very excited to meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this= year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and/or a floor during that week! >=20 > 10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle, WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes &= THAW > 10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @ Camellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pixton > 10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir, CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rek= us > 10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @ House Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus > 10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @ ZuhG Life (early) > 10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @ Shine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival= > 10/14 =E2=80=93 San Francisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The Y= Axes & Black Cobra Vipers > 10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =E2=80=93 Best of Y2KX+= 2 International Live Looping Festival > 10/19 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internationa= l Live Looping Festival > 10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internationa= l Live Looping Festival > 10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Internationa= l Live Looping Festival > 10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is Green > 10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO @ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof & The S= ketch Artists > 10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln, NE @ Cultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis B= rowne Band > 10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally R= hodes & Love Technicians >=20 > More info can be found on my website, including videos and music.=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jean-Paul De Roover > performer | composer | producer >=20 > me@jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > www.jeanpaulderoover.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 --Apple-Mail-F3B377A3-FCC9-4CDB-B34C-CC8DB3EAF396 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Nope, I'm pulling double d= uty! Lincoln at 6, Omaha at 10!

Jean-Paul De Roover
(807) 251-337= 6

*Sent from my phone.*

= On 2012-10-08, at 3:26 PM, K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey your Lincoln and Omaha shows are on th= e same day.......a two gig day ..or typo

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131
 &nb= sp;          
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+

http://you= tu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4
http:= //www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten <= br>http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten =
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten
=
--- On Mon, 10/8/12, Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.co= m> wrote:

From: Jean-Paul De Roo= ver <j.de.roover@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from= Y2KX+2
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, October= 8, 2012, 4:29 PM

That's not a short trip, = Kyle! If you made it, I'd buy you a beer!

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roove= r@gmail.com> wrote:
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8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.co= m/tour or if you're into Facebook, the details are here:
=0A=0Ahttps://www.facebook.com/events/381777488564102
= =0A
See you tomorrow!
=

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com> wrote:
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And what time?

From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
= Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400
Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and f= rom Y2KX+2
=0A=0A=0A=0A

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com

Nice! 

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Je= remy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Portland.<= br>JD Devros......

From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53= :09 -0400
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASubject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

He= y everyone!

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=0AI'm very excited to be touring the Western US this fall, and now that= I'm here I figured I'd send out a message with my tour dates listed:
=0A=0A

If you live in any of = these towns, it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to = meet those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll= share a meal and/or a floor during that week!
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=0A=0A10/09 =E2=80=93 Portland, OR @=0ACamellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pixton
=0A=0A10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmuir= , CA @=0ADunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus=0A=0A10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, CA @=0AHouse Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus
=0A= =0A10/13 =E2=80=93 Sac= ramento, CA=0A@ ZuhG Life (early)
=0A=0A10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacramento, CA @= =0AShine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival
=0A=0A10/14 =E2= =80=93 San Francisco, CA=0A@ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The Y= Axes & Black Cobra Vipers
=0A=0A10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jose, CA @ Anno=0AD= omini Gallery =E2=80=93 Best of Y2KX+2 International Li= ve Looping Festival
=0A=0A10/19 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl A= lley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
=0A=0A10/20= =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 Int= ernational Live Looping Festival
=0A=0A10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa Cruz, CA=0A@ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festiva= l
=0A=0A10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora, CA @=0AThe Greater Good =E2= =80=93 w/Grass is Green
=0A=0A10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Follins, CO=0A@ Art Lab = =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists
=0A=0A10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln,= NE @=0ACultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band
=0A=0A10/30= =E2=80=93 Omaha, NE @=0ASide Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/All= y Rhodes & Love Technicians=
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More info can be found on my website, includi= ng videos and music. 

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www.jeanpaulderoover.com

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Hey your Lincoln and O= maha shows are on the same day.......a two gig day ..or typo

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131
 =            =
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Pa= tten+

http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4
http://= www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten <= br>http://www.myspace.com/= kyledeanpatten
http://www.linkedin.com/in= /kyledeanpatten

--- On Mon, 10/8/12, Jean-Paul D= e Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.c= om> wrote:

From: Jean-Paul De R= oover <j.de.roover@gmail.com= >
Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /a>
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 4:29 PM

That's not a short trip, Kyle! If you made it, I'd buy you a beer!

=
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jean-= Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.com/tour or if you're into Facebook, the deta= ils are here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/381777488564102

See you tomorrow!

On= Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com> wrote:
And what time?

From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2= 012 17:01:55 -0400
Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Nice! 
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros &= lt;deafrose58@hotmail.c= om> wrote:
Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Portland.
JD D= evros......

From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:09 -0400<= br> Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com

Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be touring t= he Western US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd send out a mess= age with my tour dates listed:

If you live in any of these towns, it= 'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet those of yo= u that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'll share a meal and= /or a floor during that week!

10/08 =E2=80=93 Seattle= , WA @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW
10/09 =E2=80=93 Portlan= d, OR @ Camellia Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Kyrstyn Pixton
10/10 =E2=80=93 Dunsmui= r, CA @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus
10/11 =E2=80=93 Napa, C= A @ House Concert =E2=80=93 w/Greg Rekus
10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacrame= nto, CA @ ZuhG Life (early)
10/13 =E2=80=93 Sacrame= nto, CA @ Shine (late) =E2=80=93 Shine Bat Festival=
10/14 =E2=80=93 San Fra= ncisco, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =E2=80=93 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers
10/17 =E2=80=93 San Jos= e, CA @ Anno Domini Gallery =E2=80=93 Best of Y2KX+2 International Li= ve Looping Festival
10/19 =E2=80=93 Santa C= ruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival=
10/20 =E2=80=93 Santa C= ruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival=
10/21 =E2=80=93 Santa C= ruz, CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival=
10/24 =E2=80=93 Sonora,= CA @ The Greater Good =E2=80=93 w/Grass is Green
10/29 =E2=80=93 Fort Fo= llins, CO @ Art Lab =E2=80=93 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists 10/30 =E2=80=93 Lincoln= , NE @ Cultiva =E2=80=93 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band 10/30 =E2=80=93 Omaha, N= E @ Side Door Lounge =E2=80=93 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians

More info can be found on my website, including videos a= nd music. 

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
performer |= composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
www.jeanpaulderoover.com



--
Jean-Paul De R= oover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-33= 76



--
Jean-Paul De R= oover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-33= 76



--
J= ean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Paul= De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
8 PM! More details are at www.jeanpaulderoover.= com/tour or if you're into Facebook, the details are here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/381777488564102

See you tomorrow!

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jere= my devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com> wrote:
And what time?

From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
Date: Mo= n, 8 Oct 2012 17:01:55 -0400
Subject: Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX= +2

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Nice!=A0

=
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmai= l.com> wrote:
Ok, then. See tomorrow night in Portland.
JD = Devros......

From: me@jeanpaulderoover.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:53:= 09 -0400
Subject: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com

Hey everyone!

I'm very excited to be tour= ing the Western US this fall, and now that I'm here I figured I'd s= end out a message with my tour dates listed:

If you live in any of these towns, = it'd be wonderful to meet you! Similarly, I'm very excited to meet = those of you that are playing at the Y2KX+2 this year - I'm sure we'= ;ll share a meal and/or a floor during that week!

10/08 =96 Seattle, WA<= /b> @ Rendezvous Jewelbox Theatre - w/Zack Stokes & THAW
10/09 =96 Portland, OR= @ Camellia Lounge =96 w/Kyrstyn Pixton
10/10 =96 Dunsmuir, CA= @ Dunsmuir Brewery Works =96 w/Greg Rekus
10/11 =96 Napa, CA= @ House Concert =96 w/Greg Rekus
10/13 =96 Sacramento, = CA @ ZuhG Life (early)
10/13 =96 Sacramento, = CA @ Shine (late) =96 Shine Bat Festival
10/14 =96 San Francisc= o, CA @ 50 Mason Social House =96 w/The Y Axes & Black Cobra Vipers
10/17 =96 San Jose, CA= @ Anno Domini Gallery =96 Best of Y2KX+2 International Live Lo= oping Festival
10/19 =96 Santa Cruz, = CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/20 =96 Santa Cruz, = CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/21 =96 Santa Cruz, = CA @ Pearl Alley Studios - Y2KX+2 International Live Looping Festival
10/24 =96 Sonora, CA @ The Greater Good =96 w/Grass is Green
10/29 =96 Fort Follins= , CO @ Art Lab =96 w/Shatterproof & The Sketch Artists
10/30 =96 Lincoln, NE<= /b> @ Cultiva =96 w/Amy Schmidt & The Addis Browne Band
10/30 =96 Omaha, NE @ Side Door Lounge =96 w/Zach Short/Ally Rhodes & Love Technicians=

More info can be found on my website, including videos = and music.=A0

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
performer |= composer | producer

me@jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
www.jeanpaulderoover.com




--
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ww= w.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376



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ww= w.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
= --Apple-Mail-F3B377A3-FCC9-4CDB-B34C-CC8DB3EAF396-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 03:55:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4775218345D; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 03:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5073A04A.40804@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:55:54 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for September, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 03:55:59 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/top20-09sep.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for September, 2012. Shows #805 to #808; 6-September-2012 to 27-September-2012 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for September was Manikin Records. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#sep ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Bil Vermette - Galaxies IV - Rainforest Productions Booth & Creek - Lightwaves - none Dan Pound - Return To Other Worlds - Poundsounds Erik Wolo & Bernhard Wostheinrich - Arcadia Borealis - DiN Glenn Main - Ripples - A.D. Music Ian Boddy & Bernhard Wostheinrich - Moire - DiN Ian Boddy & Erik Wollo - Frontiers - DiN Markus Reuter and Ian Boddy - Dervish - DiN Modulator ESP - The Sound of Walking Backwards Into Infinity - none Northcore - Desatero - O3E Numina - The Deception of Reality - Hypnos Paul Ellis - I Am Here - Lotuspike Projective Module - Other Things That Happened - Black Note Music The Redundant Rocker - Heart - Unsung Thin Air - Flamed Amazement - none Various Artists - First Decade disk 1 - Manikin Various Artists - First Decade disk 2 - Manikin Various Artists - Home Patterning - Periphery Various Artists - Second Decade disk 1 - Manikin Various Artists - Second Decade disk 2 - Manikin Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 05:46:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1275A183460; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20121009032540.A605C183462@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20121009032540.A605C183462@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:46:05 -0700 Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Paul Sullivan" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Once every year or so, I get bitchy about this phenomenon and the problem always comes creeping back. I know a lot of people use Gmail and have mail filters out, but I subscribe to the daily digest, specifically because I don't want to have to wade through individual posts all the time. A quick perusal of the list and I can see immediately what there is to read or reply to that's relevant for me. Perhaps it's antiquated but it's not called a Daily Digest for no reason. PLEASE DON"T BE LAZY by just hitting REPLY. TRIM YOUR POSTS.............thanks! > Sorry to be grouchy, but it's a pet peeve. I do hope you both have a > wonderful time at the festival! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 08:56:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F0B1183461; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Pj7VVX+l6twFtWFuwRb4PGfMANChXWfYLoPhRUtk9C0=; b=UbnNR0oSKNhmd+QNd+3xXkJil7QLerDfND3ZvOQva3+DbTyPeEquiqnn82g2XFtS+z TDx31xZJ+pGn7MRzvEnJTl1Ed+E2h313W54lZeENwl+oWAMQHiDlBX8jQbVYDyqYEmmz 6wX8a3nZnCOv/lEjKDP6swvKCghBtYHSUUdjizhSHyDYCaz3r7RW3YtTyhEKIyha1pKd sgT8o1Nz6gtHU8U7bSugsoyh2OVvjbR+OpKkzClSnLwrIpimhKUOsrxPDF+/PZ0faIuN PXNnezw5hp2fjFfbksLq4NUHy5bFXSs61WhUrbWyMfcYDLs/X+6vZSeSjYnxdHn+LEQG GkkA== Message-ID: <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:56:27 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Interface recommendations References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Am 09.10.2012 01:16, schrieb Philip: > The interfaces I have been thinking of are MOTU 828mk3, Saffire, or something by RME. If I decide to expand, it would be nice to be able to daisy chain two units together and use them in my DAW with minimal fuss. In general, I'd like to add a +1 to Sylvain's post about the RMEs, especially regarding quality of the actual computer connection. While RME can do only interfaces (and the components within them), they can do all of them really well, including pres, converters, computer interfaces chipset, software drivers, digital clock etc. On the other hand, with companies like TC, they can do great converters and pres and effects software, but lack in the computer connection... I also heard a lot of good things about the MOTU audio interfaces (I'm happy with my Express XT), but no 1st hand experience here... Which interface by RME are you specifically looking at? And of course, what's your budget? The RME Fireface UFX would fulfil your requirement of "just want to be able to start recording", with a standalone recorder functionality, albeit at a price. As for I/O, it has 12 on the device, plus a coax SPDIF (to which your AxeFx2 might connect?) and two pairs of ADAT lightpipes - in combination with a pair of Behringer ADA8000 (which are actually quite decent, if you make sure to sync them to a stable digital clock), you thus would get 30 ins. The older Fireface 800 has only a few ins less... As for cascading multiple devices: I can only say about the RME proprietary format, which allows for that - they use the same application level software interfaces, so it should also work with the IEEE1394/USB-based interfaces, but best check. As for Silvain's statement that people usually praise what they bought - I'm not like that. Here's a few comments on other interfaces: * TC Electronics (mine: Konnekt24D): great converters, great effects, decent pres, drivers/computer interface a catastrophe. You essentially need to test drive on the specific platform you're using before buying (and then might end up surprised when switching computer). * RME (multiface/digiface): no-hassles solution. There's not much to critizise here... * Presonus (Firebox): if RME is the Mercedes, then this may be the Volkswagen. * Marian (UCON CX and some ADAT interface thing): they actually work well, but driver support is a problem... Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 08:58:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3528818345D; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:58:46 +0100 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Interface recommendations Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:010TDTYUGTC5PPYxnKEkaUOM8QXkLE/0FdRtMSXzvJB0ReNMTKpkQ=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <2Lt3wC.A.XQB.Kd-cQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:58:51 +0000 (UTC) I have an Apogee Duet (v1) and recently acquired an RME Babyface. The Duet is easier to use but the Babyface is far superior in terms of features and low latency stability. Of course those are only 2x2 devices but, suffice to say, in my experience both Apogee and RME are very good. There's nothing to choose between them sound quality-wise. The Babyface has ADAT so it's easily expandable to have as many inputs as you want. Have you considered, instead of an audio interface with lots of inputs, getting an automated patchbay or mixer combined with an interface with just a few inputs? If you can send all your gear into a hardware mixer, label each input and run the outputs to your computer then you'd only need an interface with a couple of channels. You'd only need as many channels as you'd need to be using simultaneously and you'd have a nice, tactile hardware gizmo to be switching around the audio signals. If ease of use is important then big, clearly labelled sliders and switches are always going to be more intuitive than software switching. Also, that way you could concentrate on getting the very best audio quality with a limited number of channels rather than getting decent quality with a bunch of channels. A lot of the high-end interfaces only have a couple of channels; quality over quantity and all that. Just a thought! Philip. --On 09 October 2012 08:16 +0900 Philip wrote: > I've been researching interfaces and posts on the various forums seem to > invariably end up with people defending their own expensive purchases > and/or troll fests. > > I know this isn't exactly live-looping, but considering that this is > probably one of the few places where I can hope to get some solid > discussion on the topic without things going off the rails, I've decided > to ask for your thoughts. > > My main instrument is guitar. I use an AxeFx2 for my electric and > acoustic guitars and bass. Apart from that I have a room full of old > Roland gear Juno60, 808, 909, 303s 202 etc. I don't use any microphones, > so mic pres aren't really an issue. I like leaving stuff plugged in, so a > lot of inputs is important. I use Logic on a 2011 iMac. > > The interfaces I have been thinking of are MOTU 828mk3, Saffire, or > something by RME. If I decide to expand, it would be nice to be able to > daisy chain two units together and use them in my DAW with minimal fuss. > > I don't like messing around with things. If I'm playing the guitar or a > synth and I stumble on something I like, I just want to be able to start > recording. > > AD quality is important, though because a lot of my gear doesn't have any > way to save presets and the chances of my being able to stumble across my > original settings in order to re-record it through good gear at a later > time is probably nill. > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts. > > Philip > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 10:29:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96F5C18345C; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7faabtlHWitYBaHlglYbD+HNfjf95+wYjevF5ZGLp7M=; b=eDfe40dM4O6sTzWbAgPtxIJifJRji7GrkY9QjXx3dhnhSlr2vkgTLxIPnmq64zHMdN n+aSMCorkmcNnaAC6JjNI68ImGHCGSvLL4zmhi9p8Cpw5+K/xBmJUPDUhoSoeKBxAMgR +JGfu1Y2lk8y8NGYUKW6NnUt299SJp9y+KQEDjTdZTPNs0bljlgwD3hVJtFF5SHaWAKd lD+ObgM5Lbhfd+cu/7i03OGtlnHZDK8RNRcxumpGFYTJO+y4VuogP9Y4B18FTvx8vrsb i4E2f815qIK+fbIvA7nNDndJn4fQvodMeI8e7C8jxc2gFwJow5sroutMvETLQ/32+RL9 p33g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 06:29:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34349676aa6004cb9dd1f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:29:52 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b34349676aa6004cb9dd1f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tuesday, October 9, 2012, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > > As for Silvain's statement that people usually praise what they bought - > I'm not like that. Not my claim, I was only poking fun at something Phillip said in his post. People naturally talk about what they own and recommend what worked well for them. I see no cause for cynicism. Sylvain --047d7b34349676aa6004cb9dd1f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tuesday, October 9, 2012, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill = wrote:


As for Silvain's statement that people usually praise what they bought = - I'm not like that.=A0

Not my claim, I= was only poking fun at something Phillip said in his post. =A0People natur= ally talk about what they own and recommend what worked well for them. =A0I= see no cause for cynicism.

Sylvain=A0
--047d7b34349676aa6004cb9dd1f6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 13:37:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4415E18345E; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=dkeyCX+3ffBt40LT/WXE1CK0Aky6qZwmU12F/0z86cQ=; b=j9YCfCZpuVX+jsOw0MB90MYf4abhwT8u32Tg/NogFtR85EwOBMNU7VEt2UIzGSiOdu +y5fMTGsIZhgb2R3/QlbFjz5DpH6wp1YIlG0gfjEh+T8LYNnBGkw8OzdD4lZBrfYNcKu wE5cDoaLJRHnrksPbLxXjMYs7BSdL99NzgAqsywMls4zMDGOYFwXtf8DpuJdE9UV43Pu YFtXopWKSBrqzPDP1FXUqocU5AmqwO8Jhm2pKTd5ss+4Vu7dU9JHYFDP5wPLq2ienI7g 38QhcLoFBHixqphynQ2Lr3UmckMVxOI7NKg6UCNAn/XINTDIwb+JBl8lHmHGVKLx27CJ 0HLQ== From: Philip Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_68CAC54A-3060-417D-8C5B-3B7015279D76" Subject: Re: Interface recommendations Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:37:47 +0900 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:37:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_68CAC54A-3060-417D-8C5B-3B7015279D76 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks guys! My mention of the praising what you have wasn't directed at anyone on = this forum. I was reading some interface threads on other forums that = deteriorated into complete messes.=20 That's one of the things I like about this place--that doesn't happen. I just talked to someone who is liquidating their home studio gear and = they have an A&H ZED R16 in great condition for about 800 dollars. it = wasn't exactly what I had in mind, but the price is right. I know the = AD/DA converters aren't great, but they will probably do for me right = now. It will be nice to have a little mixing desk too--like Philip said, = clearly labeled faders are really nice to have. I'm leaning pretty hard in that direction right now. I'll call back = tomorrow and see what I can work out. I'll let you know what i decide. Thanks again, Philip On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Tuesday, October 9, 2012, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill = wrote: >=20 >=20 > As for Silvain's statement that people usually praise what they bought = - I'm not like that.=20 >=20 > Not my claim, I was only poking fun at something Phillip said in his = post. People naturally talk about what they own and recommend what = worked well for them. I see no cause for cynicism. >=20 > Sylvain=20 --Apple-Mail=_68CAC54A-3060-417D-8C5B-3B7015279D76 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1


On = Tuesday, October 9, 2012, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill = wrote:


As for Silvain's statement that people usually praise what they bought - = I'm not like that. 

Not my claim, I = was only poking fun at something Phillip said in his post.  People = naturally talk about what they own and recommend what worked well for = them.  I see no cause for cynicism.

Sylvain 

= --Apple-Mail=_68CAC54A-3060-417D-8C5B-3B7015279D76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 13:52:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38FAA183463; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+cH8pjz3WYlERA5xZFhPPthESMORgiMoycVKuYipavM=; b=vgoHXPMlbmqkJi3JBUborx+vUI4OlNbMkm94y1SwnaPWg7thtnMMni01Eo9c6j9rfg uLaQmnzEVvApoYZQmqtJHtjdC3tyuZ/uI7s6clh9PdwmkQ9Jwzpq6F//pgNGTJxQDu6F AzgsN9MeN9YSzUXxeBfui+caYPa4RWbh8R+PWaQKWIJAG2Kz3uxLOxWlDUgJ3WjL1BT+ Tx8PvwMPLpP7YufFqA09rnJkrdGraisZpPVVU5ITQ2yEwdOxvUNs4lFqM1nE/XhKGG9f VQFd87g4C9xmi+tqMlffyGrV7GM9l0CVHjnM0pHLRHq9NvzrApd9T+s8EXt8x+nfqBw9 j7vg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20121009032540.A605C183462@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:52:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_he0e.A.QVE.owCdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:46 AM, wrote: > Once every year or so, I get bitchy about this phenomenon and the problem > always comes creeping back. For a balanced view on this one may also note that not trimming is polite and helpful for an email reader that doesn't have access to previous posts in a thread. Some mailing lists recommend members to quote just enough of earlier correspondance so a new reader can kind of get a general understanding of what the thread is about. I suspect many users on this list don't even know how much of previous posts are quoted in their own posts because they are using modern email applications that just shows you the stuff recently added (still keeping older text hidden in the email document). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 14:38:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49DB6183460; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2PKFK6MCBLELYI6/J8jpIklY+zNOz08taC8wTSzCoa4=; b=OKDb3MS2Je49IltadwJkdRlZ+1KW+E8boTNgfyDXKlyf+4Pl9NFeQB2WwMsXJz7IhM V3FBee2UiA08YXug3Bx+kU3Y9G8Xf7/8q/0WnkSWj3wlRj+Is9R2EuT7LAscswGIuTD3 V7mrIXC7T7y+eGLunsxfFkWfIiVdf5cG1fp9S0fgKpbxi5v3PYo8/P65Leb6xwnBGhVi witi20mC43vONTW0G+FXzTxZ5+mt2L0p2eh6goDS80LXVtI0ETwOdQe4k0Fmq7pkTc8u gJfwSArhIvfu/81/KeM0gfmoN0ronpQ+6a8RYEeXgLHINFbOhE9ftgka4SZLADfd1GH6 rbww== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:38:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:38:07 +0000 (UTC) I've always heard good things about RME. Having said that, I have a Presonus Firepod. The new version of that is the FireStudio. http://www.presonus.com/products/FireStudio-Project I've been really happy with it. I've never had driver issues. Nice clean, clear recording and works with all the recording apps I've tried (trial Sonar, Reaper, Vegas, etc) On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Philip wrote: > Thanks guys! > > My mention of the praising what you have wasn't directed at anyone on this > forum. I was reading some interface threads on other forums that > deteriorated into complete messes. > > That's one of the things I like about this place--that doesn't happen. > > I just talked to someone who is liquidating their home studio gear and they > have an A&H ZED R16 in great condition for about 800 dollars. it wasn't > exactly what I had in mind, but the price is right. I know the AD/DA > converters aren't great, but they will probably do for me right now. It will > be nice to have a little mixing desk too--like Philip said, clearly labeled > faders are really nice to have. > > I'm leaning pretty hard in that direction right now. I'll call back tomorrow > and see what I can work out. I'll let you know what i decide. > > Thanks again, > > Philip > > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 9, 2012, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >> >> >> >> As for Silvain's statement that people usually praise what they bought - >> I'm not like that. > > > Not my claim, I was only poking fun at something Phillip said in his post. > People naturally talk about what they own and recommend what worked well for > them. I see no cause for cynicism. > > Sylvain > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 14:50:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B038818345D; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9NSI1VzvLPTuroja0krqGH9FD7n53UjQVhpY8lGojHU=; b=mQIu2Aoga3qzEy7yTmh0ASDYMaqER86OFWYukhBxZ3bWFplCkVbFDzSnfctCJm9BxP eGE9ablzdIMKVNqFu/W/AgLnbL44snYTPjU2IB86hIBitDm6UFs6folS+QP6CVlMYZA0 6mKUH3/6KpLLvmsup543YH7nnsjTEPvWJGVwUFK8uMQNry51Pe+L+X3uFWVjKEvPDX9q bqIQ3/MoZGBHfXOQIn10RnLh6SdVWpPiJTFvTXdYXhYQj6kthb58aQiN+IQhUSiZtX3j sp7tkcITSsbiAWRmpO9M2E1FdTRLVR8EN6bZe0mKyunne+5oBLaH0pWP2D9Ag6thbSH/ 6Srw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:50:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:50:31 +0000 (UTC) I know nothing about it, but some questions to think about when buying used audio interfaces: - is it still supported by the maker? - will there be driver updates for future OS upgrades? - how well does it play with your current OS? Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 14:55:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97333183460; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 691980.24160.bm@omp1065.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349794503; bh=ygGFy5JHadPmmU8P61iSp6j83ttxx26RepYRKDp5AdM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a6mANU54RRast6mkC030uCfMSkL68TutIjqw0gsFDBjHX57iG6nksdy0v72Qq8lyfFHnun2nk2BAj3xjyZJ+YtvZHU4ntvsFadqQ3X3Jv8hmbzlV0XNhEMLT3eh6ZWOEYDsPGoKJhr5deqUDinkwnF3+qD3dDdIZm7SpOykr5tQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3G4nrprtkPZcdyKQW5R6EnN3lgmWpFZ1obsxEx9tJplAQ1zwB8pExLzDnKf11XFArDhd/NMFU+gsPXKfpVPws01ZW3bP/GC3YvP9DsHozAqBN0DRm1M+bqcmdHLAyqa02NHj8sAUN+/5EK9BkfsnWjuY8zblfyvluo04/cfZgO0=; X-YMail-OSG: q1wE_ysVM1kh0tV2mS02pnWJddyEtvi6otSS5QlIsu3_k_s msgO_S535V7aabpiUwXOy.LRw_0Q7RCxHFUpoTG5oiWzRD57Ws4GV.MONSNi NcBab_WVatn4FwRdmXf7_aBW_bTaGIcFqvM30gnNFC4WW3kWG7V02aZGVyPS piSDMBDUcui13BM3riNTcpWdis16V0j20XBrdh649unaS6CkU6AsRvI1Yx5t yE_VdPlVy0mamkSQlA7GQ6XLpjtQTefpJdfazWNw1lUjf4NKxzSVcjsoSTdP mNCGFSPw5PRlF4lYIUsy86.YEfWk7J6UwGqxbry_IShHHMxlr1scxIAAA9Yl VEFHTocJeHJXJhqU60sPZZBuuuq5YZ.TvrrPWiCm95BZXkscB3a6kpsggsoS kCHFZSkflFdPNoRz1MoN1cBaHWpibXVAKmZbNPVnV5eo2Fhp8qjHJJteoBh2 0h61NNbQ818JU4iPbJmNK5YFwfq0XTO9maCG0ncJ431XXl6u4Fo2Ckg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SSBqdXN0IGZpZ3VyZSBJJ20gYSB0YXJnZXQgaWYgaSBzdGVwIG91dCBvZiBsdXJrZXIgbW9kZSBzbyBpIGRvbid0IHBvc3QgbXVjaCANCg0KS3lsZSANCg0KATABAQEB X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1349794503.8896.YahooMailClassic@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:55:03 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="563393889-1996460836-1349794503=:8896" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:55:05 +0000 (UTC) --563393889-1996460836-1349794503=:8896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just figure I'm a target if i step out of lurker mode so i don't post much Kyle --563393889-1996460836-1349794503=:8896 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I just figure I'm a target if i step out of lurker mode so i don't post much

Kyle

--563393889-1996460836-1349794503=:8896-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 14:55:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 850AC183473; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jDz0ThhvY+amFbO4PDCUZrsqOxIKrmAMrNd1bgGCatg=; b=yjiCp+L6SN/bO9FuF071r7UIQ43OK2o4GxrYdCp9Qvl5dc4XmqGs7C807MdaeIoKjp zUaHZ7RyTzPM5jU5+USpNTck4LhYq3F7DlkSTb5U8TwUjavHgluPyQQpG9iKLiQGwoBb fE3po8ZZZ76vheorQIPsPGz0JTQeiij5aueh3aZ1swl5Q7Rx6+qCR6T4sgcAPfDpeb4p jEyQ4KZ5vKMp6PI8szKMGTX2PVUSyPuottF6FZzKzP1qOEC9K83U46E8vGF13ZON4Re7 rVjXTiGzFZzcsJwr0sPRODfKOCFBVQM1lWaXIOGhxl7vTvmMfjXi0a0mNJL9xxNPZfkj lUsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:55:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:55:17 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I know nothing about it, but some questions to think about when buying > used audio interfaces: > - is it still supported by the maker? > - will there be driver updates for future OS upgrades? > - how well does it play with your current OS? The RME web support page is just a few mouse-clicks away and might answer those questions for their products. I don't recommend RME because I own one, I own one because it is so good ;-)) (actually meets all requirements listed in the first post, as far as I understand). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 14:57:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B5D5183462; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1m1z18DqJRbNQi4Nn8zBlpSSld/ttu2YJReTfx5asiA=; b=Kfs84NWuw9tvmkXS44TU38iss1GpVXu3Kb3G4ZugfsXcHIz6DejV5leo2/ktb1umxR J91ZjkwlBakH3i76P1cgc47sfi50mZh662yBC6m4Vc88xN7A+8V0own+B/4I7EfbBrfH 5F6e7xTgETtsSATVnSSQKzBnH4eMEvHplkmNCtGW+TblehOWzeQ9kxAAf1y9wG/v5sDk vtPxx5NL+mKOtPblhHdAXPVv4YG1X+UjVpPFPS31YoWd27I+ZDiwP4yp44D5OL0cfucc IFYKZOhI1R7F3frR2BJeudZPH31mv/9RbPhXItk2Lq34gi7mSctlyxW0vhDgHiXpg33i R/9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:57:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:57:27 +0000 (UTC) > The RME web support page is just a few mouse-clicks away and might > answer those questions for their products. I don't recommend RME > because I own one, I own one because it is so good ;-)) (actually > meets all requirements listed in the first post, as far as I > understand). I agree, but he's looking at a A&H ZED R16. Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 16:01:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD6D7183461; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 991448.52195.bm@omp1005.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349798472; bh=piKkiXSRyhBICmBP4dFSP02wQWiPNR+fZxSY90A8V+4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=E9EFjsJIvbtOiJVygiWCR1vqw9r4O/nH5qYyxwC0gO0X7QbSqGp4U17sbzFJ3YM0Mx6Be8zW/ZuCocC94L5wBOLm8mdVo0UebKSkF6QOaMVdzoxJbp38OUYMFqOMK/K7NeYmWtPWTVjrU9C/YqOpaydAGJeZeE0XZHsw96JRIH8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: FsqpKQwVM1l7BqEvqF16fyU_EkNbNfqHE37aTLJAZnbLtic buD_RRtFujWT2V5lvIU0t7ZSDRG1YFLmYCciFc7j3G2G4M5TMjJDNWKNtG97 WSmGv4S7CARpvbVWkhmN27xlbiWbKURMz3EWvuXrg0KVujDVlYb54SOS7C0p mu68sk5pYJtdcz3X7uBlSWFBTduxxM4__lkNCjSEZ13WmEZ6cYFD09lwt9MH QxpIVSpTVd2WbMtv0CnlTedujwewGJmgPNMPwflYDimtoaoIVp0LzLyJ6QxJ 5KI6V06joO91e2R5u0tMdNTPEmEWgnv7o4AXEiWCbMqQ53QOJhAdQV9ur67C kKOEHC_AsYjDbUOeI7PkaIEs2GKrcpTsF.hN2SzFO8p8_S5Xzsjgz5u9EMU8 SJL2mc5osuYjh8NawxYMuYbQWoK1ih5MCAd4pwqMzcgZ0pPqeNpHipIbvSQ- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) References: <1349794503.8896.YahooMailClassic@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--23399682 In-Reply-To: <1349794503.8896.YahooMailClassic@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <9BC7ACD4-42F9-4624-A1C2-E1A6B9284D4C@carlsonarts.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:01:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:01:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--23399682 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There he is!! Get him!!! On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:55 AM, K D Patten wrote: > I just figure I'm a target if i step out of lurker mode so i don't = post much=20 >=20 > Kyle=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--23399682 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii There he is!! Get him!!!

On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:55 AM, K D Patten wrote:

I just figure I'm a target if i step out of lurker mode so i don't post much

Kyle


--Apple-Mail-1--23399682-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 16:07:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 897BD183462; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=8WXVyq0dWga4YOEhtFJygJ KdOOg=; b=BJagmBg7/W/aVJfSg62w2AJaWH6AAFmoWMCJK7Y/dPyJ4BfAko85Rx Ofm5y/tXnAKLFJNC0U4Gv2FS5Jr6LbHI1vV0mjdyQQy4Ig2CjDKe1Ey20XKDu8t/ E1ZTQlKuKr09DbvjAZv75v32WHyskPQPa91E6I46PHivjKMJcLCu8= X-Sasl-enc: KKgR2YmO37Gce35ZPFp0Q8lTXia8LroKFGp/Pun+Gl6s 1349798826 Message-ID: <50744BA9.3090802@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:07:05 -0700 From: Rob Campbell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <12RSFD.A.pfG.ruEdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:07:07 +0000 (UTC) I don't think the RME drivers are that wonderful. Audio is great yes, but they wreck havoc frequently on my system. I have an RME Fireface 800 connected via Firewire to my Windows 7 64 bit system, and I get blue screen crashes fairly often when I turn off the Fireface after having used an ASIO audio application that is still running. I was told by RME I need to 'detach' the Fireface device first, which I think is a lame answer, other devices don't crash my system if I forget to do that. And yes that helps usually although its a pain to try to remember, but I STILL have gotten crashes after doing that. Bad driver coding, obviously an 'unhandled exception' in code speak. I plan to ditch RME for that reason, I've waited two years now and the most recent driver update didn't fix it. Rob From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 17:09:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F5AB18345E; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GgW8/Niix8QPxDruD9TuzCM09iJPlL+UDIrKiQ/9hSU=; b=UvTPxIO3gQ6mycKspXZb1FksSs3x9p69gzpkQgivogn13IHQH+Hu98nktO59ktjTc7 PlBt0gViS/R8Z58rVA4EYi7QfxwX6SLqBrPq1E7ZAOFPIWG0KFBIVfZgw/pfsSNefYD8 r3daZPKKAaxxnkEDwtsai+YRE0HBElrRKIqeUUkf6qbzA+q200CXakk16Mr6Q/o8mot5 2+smwt7FoPicTz8s+/oRbZ0SlTDacWb/odonHTnNuXMjWMND+NIgz3h+Vn8FEvN6V6B5 SPfTSA40LyuS3L1CP8qgWQJKt2H+F5lqLXG7avumJtLZBjY+UmI5sm/ktQZ7zs9thKJ0 bx2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50744BA9.3090802@pobox.com> References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <50744BA9.3090802@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:09:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:09:48 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Rob Campbell wrote: > I have an RME Fireface 800 connected via Firewire to my Windows 7 64 bit > system, and I get blue screen crashes fairly often when I turn off the > Fireface after having used an ASIO audio application that is still running. Good to know, I have no experience with them running on windows. Works like magic on OS X (where I limit my recommendation). Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 17:27:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3675A183455; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8lq89NK/ViEt2bUXwppNk8S0eXvZTDlY4svFUrmYwCE=; b=AzzPSdBc5Xsh/cPmy1Nt/mL22x4KmJoMrLK1qjXKFjxffZPKdnrDfiQxJy1T3Y5Uoy OJ9tkahGEY5yeBRTtLhpjKevrRA2qTdal/lnZKIvUPBfp8YjQ5Pka6aKOmHtA0tVwV3S Z+zNHgfGJHGOsVVzqvdhlL+iUuVh+Lrp1w3j3bGHLyiXlaYu4LOQqqI8FmF1irtu3/nv 5co5ZuMCvIu1XocoW5wJNPQrhsUQKKcWpE+OizZpsOrH9CaIKNoZtijLeLL23BBKOdZu sK7xpf1Va+M+QjH/z+S179zIBplAo8nrQaa+fM8aFNoKM8R+NmUJ26lo8cX0jaxzh9K3 SxTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <50744BA9.3090802@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:27:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <2lwPk.A.-vH.M6FdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:27:40 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Good to know, I have no experience with them running on windows. > Works like magic on OS X (where I limit my recommendation). I have two RME interfaces and to me they have been as good under Windows as under Mac. I appreciate that the software, "Fireface Mixer" and "Fireface Settings", look and work the same under both operating systems. That makes it easier to use similar software setups on all kind of computers. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 18:17:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB65118345E; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=LtRBGzZ9ah++CPnd7W1ffRMvFH0gz2ift1K5bhGDkHg=; b=vGh4DlyVSYF0H8yKzefvjI29pfx0NCc4hIVz3zKo54Bub/b7JLAwAnyuJID7MXkDKq lElcpSE91cByIWMaydc0qdJTvuFKvJDOygcWyxbMVSH6Qgb9OO3vmhEctP6sFc30Nu+j O0RGeH/WCcT7jTDRGEb59SZXa73NMysBFPl49QsI1hA+HTcgov+ZyF0h+P18OgYvluC5 lgX2qdva6RTpHMVvgAB8HL/WidIfm/kqHuGHiu+Ew6MY5DQv2Dpra6QRt2u9kqsUmJia HPeopsrkQCGduismzZq3t6MxCWo4UF931nRJZA8LDuy1mdJg/DCOcZDwILdBtSxa7s2e I1pQ== From: Christopher Darrow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Vox Lil Looper vs LP-2 vs Delaylab-with-external-battery Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:17:29 -0700 Message-Id: <8426755C-10BD-44AD-92A8-E28CB0C93DAD@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:17:32 +0000 (UTC) The local store seems to never be actually getting in the Vox Lil Looper = I've been waiting to try out so I'm hoping someone here with practical = hands on experience with that and maybe one or both of these others = might chime in with a word or two.=20 Vox Lil Looper is tied with LP-2 in my mind... both are battery powered, = LP-2 has more functions but the Lil Looper is small and simple.=20 It doesn't look like any of them have loop copy. (The third option is = the Delay lab, but no battery power built in and it looks like less = features actual looping functions, though I like the general form factor = and look... if I go for big and featured over small and simple.)=20 If they did have loop copy, or if it's possible one will in the near = future via an update or something, that might do it.=20 My questions are: Do they feel "natural" and "right" (both in how your = foot feels pressing it and the immediacy of execution. Sound and ease of = use live? Thoughts about specific functions the LP-2 has to offer the = Lil Looper doesn't. Like, it appears to have some sort of quantize = function... does that somehow work even when not synced to a midi clock = or just when there's a midi clock signal to show it where the one (or = whatever, I'm a midiot... basically looking for that "lame duck" period = as in the Echoplex manual.) Anywhoo.... thoughts welcome since it looks like I'll have to choose = without touching them myself. This is to be more like a sketch pad then = an actual performance hub so price and simplicity and compactness steer = me towards the Lil Looper, but I worry it'll feel crappy and toy-ish and = that I'll grow board without more advanced functions, like half speed.=20= THANK YOU!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 21:54:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCBDF18345D; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:54:26 UTC Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:24:16 -0400 From: Clint Goss Subject: RC-300 MIDI details To: Loopers Delight Message-id: <000601cda664$6fb07c70$4f117550$@goss.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sNo2nvgxinG9kban6guHoQ)" Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac2mY3jomPQeP9f+RdSVmSVNxJqrnA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:54:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_sNo2nvgxinG9kban6guHoQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi All - Just upgraded to an RC-300 . been using the loop capability in the TC Helicon VoiceLive Touch (VLT) recently . Hoping to trigger most things from my FCB1010 . is there a more detailed description of the MIDI functionality than the manual? I've found, for example, that the effect of triggering ALL PLAY/STOP using a CC depends on the CC value parameter . but I had to find this by Trial & Error . Sorry if this has been discussed - tried searching the archives but search seem to not be working and a text search on the archives that I downloaded is onerous. Also . one striking observation that somewhat broadsided me . in and out are all unbalanced, consumer levels. The VLT has balanced, +4 dBu, stereo outs. Switching to the RC-300 got me lower signal and a noticable hummm . ouch . and then noticed the specs (which says -10 dBu, but I think they mean -10 dBV) and the hookup diagram shows TS quarter inch for instruments inputs and main outputs. Stuck in a Hum Eliminator on the output side of the of the RC-300 on its 30ft run to my "house system". Probably need another between my source (the VLT) and the RC-300. Ugh. -- Clint Goss --Boundary_(ID_sNo2nvgxinG9kban6guHoQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable RC-300 MIDI details

Hi All = -

Just upgraded to an RC-300 … been using = the loop = capability in the TC Helicon VoiceLive Touch (VLT) recently …

Hoping to = trigger most things from my FCB1010 … is there a more = detailed description of the MIDI functionality than the manual? I’ve found, for = example, that = the effect of = triggering ALL = PLAY/STOP = using a CC depends on the CC value parameter … but I had to find this by = Trial & Error …

Sorry if this = has been discussed – tried searching the archives but search seem = to not be working and a text search on the archives that I downloaded is = onerous.

Also … = one striking = observation that somewhat broadsided me … in and out are all = unbalanced, consumer levels. The VLT has balanced, +4 dBu, stereo outs. Switching to the RC-300 got = me lower = signal and a noticable hummm = … ouch … and then noticed the specs = (which says -10 dBu, but I think they mean -10 dBV) and the hookup = diagram shows TS quarter inch for instruments inputs and main = outputs.

Stuck in a Hum = Eliminator on the output side of the of the RC-300 on its 30ft run to my = “house system”. Probably need another between my source (the VLT) and = the RC-300. Ugh.

-- Clint = Goss

= --Boundary_(ID_sNo2nvgxinG9kban6guHoQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 22:42:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DD21183453; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7cd7c5b8cd6b5d5755d4bfd592d390d4.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:42:37 -0700 Subject: Y2K12 PERFORMING LOOPFEST ARTISTS: Please Read!!!! From: looppool@cruzio.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:42:39 +0000 (UTC) IMPORTANT TO READ for all 55 artists coming to perform at the Y2K12 Loop Fest: Here's all the salient information you need about the festival. It's very important to read this thoroughly as we cannot pull the festival off, physically and temporally unless everyone is on the same page. Please do not take this personally, but try not to write me personally at this time, I"m just completely inundated with work to do to be able to accommodate everyone in the next week and a half before the foreign artists because to arrive. http://www.y2kloopfest.com/agreement.htm Y2K12 RULES of PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT This festival is a LIVE LOOPING festival. This means that artists who perform must have a large amount of live looping in their musical set. We have had artists in the pasts who merely triggered precorded samples or loops and played over them. This is NOT acceptable for this festival. However, there is no style or genre associated with the festival so anything you want to do creatively is encouraged and supported. Be as creative as you'd like to be. That's the spirit of this beautiful festival. Performances all occur on two adjacent stages. Up to 70 artists from up to 16 countries will perform continuously for a 24 hour period over three days. There are no breaks between acts so the music is continuous. Because the stages adjoin in view of the audience members, set up and break down can be very distracting to the audience so it is imperative that loading Artists be as sensitive as possible not to draw focus from those who are performing. 1) Artists have 20 minute maximum completely silent load in (Line checks can be accomplished with supplied headphones, also silently and many artists will be on hand to help you load on and off silently when your time comes) 2) Artists have 30 minute maximum performance 3) Artists have 10 minutes maximum complete silent evacuation of the stage Importantly: 1) Artists who take longer to load will have time cut off of their performances 2) Artist who perform to long or take too long to evacuate the stage at the end of their sets result in the next act having time shaved off their set. WE HAVE TO STAY ON SCHEDULE OR THE ARTISTS AT THE END OF THE EVENING WILL BE DENIED A SPOT. MANY OF THESE ARTISTS HAVE COME THOUSANDS OF MILES AT CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE SO PLEASE BE CONSCIOUS and HURRY OFF STAGE WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED PERFORMING. ASK FOR HELP FROM ANYONE TO HELP YOU EVACUATE THE STAGE ON TIME ARTIST COMPENSATION: We run in the red every year (out of my pocket always) so there is no compensation for the artists, consequently and regretfully. Over time, I am researching new ways to get granting and to get subsidies from music companies. These invariably will be offered, first, to the artists who travel from out of the country to come perform but almost always for just the official headlining artists. Realistically, however, the recession has just killed donations in the past year and this past year we did not have enough money to give out any funding at all. We can find people free places to stay , however, if you don't mind sleeping bag on blow up mattress accommodations with other loopers. GUEST and COMP LISTS: We charge at the door and don't allow guests at all because the venue is just not large enough to accommodate more people. This includes roadies or friends who help you load in. They need to be prepared to pay for their entrance or have you pay for them. We just can't afford to do this festival without sticking religiously with this rule. This is all pretty harsh but the only way we can keep this growing without losing a lot of money. ALL FUTURE CORRESPONDENCES: Please use all capital letters and write your NAME and Y2K12 LOOPFEST in your subject line of any email you send me for the festival so that they are easy to archive and refer to. I get approximately 2,000 emails a year for the festival so it's a lot of information to collate. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 22:59:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5720118345E; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5OgTBKjZHjPAJCdw9MMPqCkPspM1G2AckuXsbPGLn+I=; b=Hnnr8ny/sMOrAANWA7PmQPlYiZFT1yOaqNJLs6S/JuIutVulW+YlKJ4DrwtBE+XlkD 40+1uhs6C8PCyJHQQAqbAqgoHk7FDgw2JXArwxi7krWb7x9tlS0ozKzvvuJhHOaoCFb7 W/l03mCAOAd4wzc9vny3HDh35CY2jj44QU6mZDaUHJiLkYYQliT7hRphj06gh9EDHHD3 MXCuJAmx63Z7ATDJqSYnrDbpYq1oJTnos+In7Li8q6Qazbqh8R2tnb7ofpeocW6MRy8M 5QCu9TqN7YXvAqU6ePzNdA9t1HpavKU6kz5aUsaXdifK6oYaNdJExhFmRIP6jEttMdO1 qc8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Just in case people hadn't seen this From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:59:18 +0000 (UTC) https://www.facebook.com/pages/NW-Loop-Fest/450944748284180 Like mushrooms, they're sprouting everywhere now. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. 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I've been interested in electronic music, and loop-oriented music with more traditional instruments, for a while... After purchasing a RiffBox 4 years ago, I began writing music that *always* included a prominent looping element. I'm in the process now of reconfiguring my guitar pedal board to improve the looping capabilities, and will probably have some questions about this in the (near) future... But for now, I wanted to pass along an expected product update from Backline Engineering. I'd emailed them a few weeks ago to casually ask if they were planning on adding MIDI sync in a future OS update. And I received this response back: "We are working on a new generation of RiffBox, but it won't be available for 6 months or so." I haven't heard anything about this anywhere else, so I think it qualifies as news! I wish there were more details, but wanted to at least pass this along :) Regards, Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 23:49:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51588183473; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 852272.9590.bm@omp1008.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349826564; bh=3FdPdDMssFWe1hh8F3C063T0JE7fExExag1jUfxNnHo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z3fOolQhZSDf+B2cF/9n9o+LWoXeJ4aQmvI3hoe7solkjHrj/ey7S8NXdR7zH34r8GAB7PHuGJm9/EmgZCGxf9PY9UGHb/9CdVV/To2MbqWojYXdp/GPx24xrmRr2B1FnKTYofNNXEwPbuSzUlXGC1O80Ke91xYpQOhkCYa6EEQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HUBouT6VO1sYt1xZ2VYjkhGOdANmopIWAwpa7j2WJQV6sTFuGoVOnHFdqmLnweC1NhKdnzNFZ3gsAYf338eNwMTkqlyrEW/c+ITbYd2scOvLhXmSs/kILFcnIMQkiZki9zVV26nfzPKDEZ31vMMcHjsodPCR+CrHo0Kc1WH8wkc=; X-YMail-OSG: dpvLuagVM1mcIUaR6b6RCeZE2gd5BJt4.OEqQJp5IQc8wfe MYbYKYYsanD9gb.LQ8f27IjkyFDK72zuV3oiqmcw1Ls8BKKZWQAisiqVQGb6 3a7vVhIaMNhf9cdWwmS06zfeH6Qm4dszL.v1ciCaHoWsqOZn_RTqXHBriLsp 5jv9XldknjAq6XnSFlL614XNPaVYXpeF68qraTQPInvniy_jFdiVouNjpl_Q eOhGu1lh.G9cVWm5t6aZyTV4HU909vUfX3it0ufCKEJJzz7184zGhNedo94Q Fczfv3ccoDrcls.PB_iIwTsx3SejOfb5pMEHgIXTM6PxMNPRc8WBGSyxgrlB HrhFv6NWTO7ZgEpRDwgdfYYg8A8QYCq4g_.hGveVv5dUID1lhD53Ji6Cmjae LofGS8xiX2OOkRle1NevUqzjAF6CjhpHUoMBIcUexqnMOtJBQFu7uBeL9xif YI_MZy1ekzmYf.UFlyYWwyUfnzRUGO4M0CS7CdcLVDugJAU85RZvutVlrjpj IEP.LF2xb2dCN40RzyQ-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SGVsbG86CsKgCkkgcHVyY2hhc2VkIGEgTGlsIExvb3BlciBzZXZlcmFsIG1vbnRocyBiYWNrIGFuZCAoYWx0aG91Z2ggSSBoYXZlbid0IGJlZW4gYWJsZSB0byBsb29wIGZvciBhdCBsZWFzdCBhIG1vbnRoIGR1ZSB0byBtb3ZpbmcgdG8gYW5vdGhlciBzdGF0ZSBpbiB0aGUgVVMpIHdhcyBpbXByZXNzZWQgYnkgdGhpcyBsb3cgY29zdCB1bml0LiBJdCBzb3VuZHMgdmVyeSBjbGVhbiBhbmQgaGFzIGVub3VnaCBmZWF0dXJlcyB0aGF0IGEgcmVhZCBvZiB0aGUgbWFudWFsIGlzIG5lY2Vzc2FyeSBhZnRlciBhIHcBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <8426755C-10BD-44AD-92A8-E28CB0C93DAD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1349826564.71764.YahooMailNeo@web161404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Reply-To: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Vox Lil Looper vs LP-2 vs Delaylab-with-external-battery To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <8426755C-10BD-44AD-92A8-E28CB0C93DAD@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1038709272-238767058-1349826564=:71764" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:49:26 +0000 (UTC) --1038709272-238767058-1349826564=:71764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello:=0A=A0=0AI purchased a Lil Looper several months back and (although I= haven't been able to loop for at least a month due to moving to another st= ate in the US) was impressed by this low cost unit. It sounds very clean an= d has enough features that a read of the manual is necessary after a while.= I am also interested in obtaining an LP-2 though. I am wondering if these = are shipping now or if the manufacturer is taking care of back orders and &= earlier problem units. =0A=A0=0AI am also pondering if the Boss RC-300 wou= ld be a worthwhile purchase (I had the previous incarnation and it took up = a lot of real estate). It is in the price range of the Pigtronix Infinity L= ooper (which, to my knowledge is still not shipping to the general public).= Wonder what would be a better purchase - the Boss or "Pig". =0A=A0=0AAnywa= y, the Lil Looper is real easy to use and is not too picky about input leve= ls. Christ, it's only $149.00 or so. I haven't tried the microphone selecti= on=A0input but will in the next couple weeks as I plan on purchasing anothe= r microphone to mike up my guitar cab.=0A=A0=0ARegards, Paul=0A =0A=0A_____= ___________________________=0A From: Christopher Darrow =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Tuesday, October 9, 2= 012 2:17 PM=0ASubject: Vox Lil Looper vs LP-2 vs Delaylab-with-external-bat= tery=0A =0A=0AThe local store seems to never be actually getting in the Vo= x Lil Looper I've been waiting to try out so I'm hoping someone here with p= ractical hands on experience with that and maybe one or both of these other= s might chime in with a word or two. =0A=0AVox Lil Looper is tied with LP-2= in my mind... both are battery powered, LP-2 has more functions but the Li= l Looper is small and simple. =0A=0AIt doesn't look like any of them have l= oop copy.=A0 (The third option is the Delay lab, but no battery power built= in and it looks like less features actual looping functions, though I like= the general form factor and look... if I go for big and featured over smal= l and simple.) =0A=0AIf they did have loop copy, or if it's possible one wi= ll in the near future via an update or something, that might do it. =0A=0AM= y questions are: Do they feel "natural" and "right" (both in how your foot = feels pressing it and the immediacy of execution. Sound and ease of use liv= e? Thoughts about specific functions the LP-2 has to offer the Lil Looper d= oesn't. Like, it appears to have some sort of quantize function... does tha= t somehow work even when not synced to a midi clock or just when there's a = midi clock signal to show it where the one (or whatever, I'm a midiot... ba= sically looking for that "lame duck" period as in the Echoplex manual.)=0A= =0AAnywhoo.... thoughts welcome since it looks like I'll have to choose wit= hout touching them myself. This is to be more like a sketch pad then an act= ual performance hub so price and simplicity and compactness steer me toward= s the Lil Looper, but I worry it'll feel crappy and toy-ish and that I'll g= row board without more advanced functions, like half speed. =0A=0ATHANK YOU= ! --1038709272-238767058-1349826564=:71764 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello:
 
I purchased a Lil L= ooper several months back and (although I haven't been able to loop for at = least a month due to moving to another state in the US) was impressed by th= is low cost unit. It sounds very clean and has enough features that a read = of the manual is necessary after a while. I am also interested in obtaining= an LP-2 though. I am wondering if these are shipping now or if the manufac= turer is taking care of back orders and & earlier problem units.
 
I am also pond= ering if the Boss RC-300 would be a worthwhile purchase (I had the previous= incarnation and it took up a lot of real estate). It is in the price range= of the Pigtronix Infinity Looper (which, to my knowledge is still not ship= ping to the general public). Wonder what would be a better purchase - the B= oss or "Pig".
 
Anyway, the Lil Looper is real easy to use and is not too picky about inpu= t levels. Christ, it's only $149.00 or so. I haven't tried the microphone s= election input but will in the next couple weeks as I plan on purchasi= ng another microphone to mike up my guitar cab.
<= /span> 
Regards, Paul

=
=
From: Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com>
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
Sent: Tuesd= ay, October 9, 2012 2:17 PM
Subje= ct: Vox Lil Looper vs LP-2 vs Delaylab-with-external-battery
=

=0A
The local store seems to never be actually getti= ng in the Vox Lil Looper I've been waiting to try out so I'm hoping someone= here with practical hands on experience with that and maybe one or both of= these others might chime in with a word or two.

Vox Lil Looper is = tied with LP-2 in my mind... both are battery powered, LP-2 has more functi= ons but the Lil Looper is small and simple.

It doesn't look like an= y of them have loop copy.  (The third option is the Delay lab, but no = battery power built in and it looks like less features actual looping funct= ions, though I like the general form factor and look... if I go for big and= featured over small and simple.)

If they did have loop copy, or if= it's possible one will in the near future via an update or something, that= might do it.

My questions are: Do they feel "natural" and "right" = (both in how your foot feels pressing it and the immediacy of execution. So= und and ease of use live? Thoughts about specific functions the LP-2 has to offer the Lil = Looper doesn't. Like, it appears to have some sort of quantize function... = does that somehow work even when not synced to a midi clock or just when th= ere's a midi clock signal to show it where the one (or whatever, I'm a midi= ot... basically looking for that "lame duck" period as in the Echoplex manu= al.)

Anywhoo.... thoughts welcome since it looks like I'll have to c= hoose without touching them myself. This is to be more like a sketch pad th= en an actual performance hub so price and simplicity and compactness steer = me towards the Lil Looper, but I worry it'll feel crappy and toy-ish and th= at I'll grow board without more advanced functions, like half speed.
THANK YOU!


--1038709272-238767058-1349826564=:71764-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 01:07:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22DC7183478; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1468612048==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121010010706.22334.26671.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:07:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Greetings plus (unexpected) Product Update Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1468612048== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Welcome!=20I'm=20a=20new=20looper=20on=20Looper's=20Delight=20this=20year,= =20too!=20I've=20been=20looping=20since=20 2010. Tyler=20Z On=20Tue,=209=20Oct=202012=2016:40:36=20-0700=20(PDT),=20Jim=20Bjorklun=20w= rote: >Hello, > >I've=20been=20lurking=20on=20this=20list=20for=20a=20few=20months,=20and= =20was=20happy=20to=20find=20it!=20=20 >I've=20been=20interested=20in=20electronic=20music,=20and=20loop-oriented= =20music=20with=20more=20 >traditional=20instruments,=20for=20a=20while... > >After=20purchasing=20a=20RiffBox=204=20years=20ago,=20I=20began=20writing= =20music=20that=20*always*=20 >included=20a=20prominent=20looping=20element. > >I'm=20in=20the=20process=20now=20of=20reconfiguring=20my=20guitar=20pedal= =20board=20to=20improve=20the=20 >looping=20capabilities,=20and=20will=20probably=20have=20some=20questions= =20about=20this=20in=20the=20 >(near)=20future... > >But=20for=20now,=20I=20wanted=20to=20pass=20along=20an=20expected=20produc= t=20update=20from=20Backline=20 >Engineering.=20I'd=20emailed=20them=20a=20few=20weeks=20ago=20to=20casuall= y=20ask=20if=20they=20were=20 >planning=20on=20adding=20MIDI=20sync=20in=20a=20future=20OS=20update. > >And=20I=20received=20this=20response=20back: > >"We=20are=20working=20on=20a=20new=20generation=20of=20RiffBox,=20but=20it= =20won't=20be=20available=20for=206=20 >months=20or=20so." > >I=20haven't=20heard=20anything=20about=20this=20anywhere=20else,=20so=20I= =20think=20it=20qualifies=20as=20 >news!=20I=20wish=20there=20were=20more=20details,=20but=20wanted=20to=20at= =20least=20pass=20this=20along=20:) > >Regards, > >Jim --===============1468612048==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 02:27:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53C49183477; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=HwK4g+WKLPqm5OdqDYrWwkADNOyqGbNhTs8U/GDO3UQ=; b=MhrTeTfw1ueKxQs5mAEVu5Wd8UlIjwz+ljnjifqJvKdiDYg3Z/XfaQ/MxWYXq2O2ZX 6QAuifTuUWV8CD4IjYaeA+51FXcW5Xe2+NqLufsAiiVAIEzR3Gh2NpNk5FP2imp4KzF2 Fk5YQk2qCxHvfJNWG55WPB1Do4BkWgLi54mrPDg0OJguCHDtM9qDHLUqv/ne6ib6ma70 nbVkpXQVx8cDnJ33D4nWjZ3omdh1o41gkDyEwJ5ZSKE6W59+wLc1hTVOHHhS2Yr2bE6z 6wYR8fIsCQta8D5p9JUDxPXBHY69v2/vF0JG7VEhte9kIpgtsKTTN7Rh6EnxxZmSnWra xT8A== Subject: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Torben Scharling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A405) Message-Id: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:26:57 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Hey fellow looper folks! I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each have set u= p our looping equipment for live/performance.=20 I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal gear, and n= eed some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be able to contrib= ute with mine soon. And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, /Torben Scharling= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 02:35:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93EAB183478; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 183412.51349.bm@omp1067.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349836533; bh=OmlcRVV2aJCbIfzSB4tTxTeTHGCckGJLZcwuO0ZX6nw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HHta/YXlHrzjz/dp3O69t+exKigzOSz3HM0lm9JbR/Lfu0i0ltNYI8mBTKeYuYcWayhFNDwF5T5B2S2vNfKikv9uCcv3RMLrk+YeNv4d6YOPDVLyQHspH+GNt3UlEFXF2G7t9WTeF69fnu1xDt8xazbcL8ON64oIpOJhwlLvnaA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SzBbIfE7RRvJpE6uaVWPg/DQdyQV98E93w14TPEl+OnsnbOD+pwb7qhWwxfiW2H04ywbzO2EuW3OPjBiGK0MV0tr5/P8UAFKyCXkVIHHwJ8hRhQJFVx1yVD0+VxtF3pVTaPKTAWK7Rsipv/Tutgivf/nMU5fZTCHnQz/aOL9I/s=; X-YMail-OSG: 0mgwmgMVM1kY2cvlczPAEuIKdHo2xY_goSx00d5cajtMYoC ctV5yS.gEKsyfEa1r7ZRKWrDg6FnycTXqVO1I5Tu6nEfYgmuoO2Er964XusM 3tnmX.CXK7h2GyIHqOPA2m786E4ylEaGZzhVw4PFlHeqvbkjau_5dEGdMFwX TNHbMd3TynTBeAGRATtGidfwixP8.ICZgoYYxtL_vc_G4QSqVZ4l866JSxaL w5BdILZ1wDeTvjIdbm9L7TeDXL49LhTcS0vDJyM4zfNj5lGwoZrhFs0AzyiC qOBeOQMYiL_y2Lt7tOIS3Nbs2E3.Y9XhEFmwCX0CXV_zpe2woyza8PSHtO23 02wyC1f0COb.ltSs3hALoBqW0GV3r7vz1SSrO8zx0JVaACph2MaGVtzL23.h Q6xcvJ.O_mHiCQqZxaZwO6B7.LWIhV3KLg3JxYE0qr7bN_AUa8Err8EHZ50N W_sgO.JSNxQTcYv14ug92zXbLMNIabg16UePSz0L3UQBpzxE6uCXk.URl.Sj WQWXwBDnokhqlIPRBLZewtVa7i90K_Po8dAV1FYQk5gwpPpE.H8XDXtIWbtV zUQUYpO11LEEKVDHvN9cikTR6Ku4jWjk8.U88M5eLpgWlBFD3Y7UbY8NAa._ x4SfnaygtgNJnDUyXaOwrYcj5S_rR8nlEU15V66tsaEOENL3odsd0WC2DaJp BHFjb48erbuabjUe4ktterD775Z9HCsS19GNq9YWGliX37TZh4fXUzizAMCw AqVWhDojMb8m4ymCnBsyn1IAN8IoowpxLMAfOSjB9IjtseWmx0mCE7sCAcRf TeYnemghsLGm4t1UsHdxbMhjXSYFtfIU3H31MNQw- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,anVzdCBvcmRlcmVkIG15IFZveCBMaWwgTG9vcGVyIGhvcGluZyBmb3IgYSBnb29kIGJhdHRlcnkgb3BlcmF0ZWQgc3Vic3RpdHV0ZSBmb3IgbXkgYm9vbWVyYW5nIDIgLi4uLi5tYXkgYmUgZm9yIGJ1c2tpbmcgaW4gdGhlIHNwcmluZ8KgIA0KDQpLeWxlIERlYW4gUGF0dGVuIA0KUC5PLiBCb3ggMjIgSm9obnN0b24sIElBwqAgNTAxMzENCsKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoCANCmh0dHA6Ly9sbWd0ZnkuY29tLz9xPUt5bGUrRGVhbitQYXR0ZW4rDQoNCmh0dHA6Ly95b3V0dS5iZS9NZ3kyZGJRSGtjNA0BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1349836532.83452.YahooMailClassic@web112119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:35:32 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Vox Lil Looper vs LP-2 vs Delaylab-with-external-battery To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8426755C-10BD-44AD-92A8-E28CB0C93DAD@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="130582594-1210725929-1349836532=:83452" Resent-Message-ID: <26oL-D.A.mTG.37NdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:35:35 +0000 (UTC) --130582594-1210725929-1349836532=:83452 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just ordered my Vox Lil Looper hoping for a good battery operated substitut= e for my boomerang 2 .....may be for busking in the spring=A0=20 Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+ http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten --- On Tue, 10/9/12, Christopher Darrow wrote: From: Christopher Darrow Subject: Vox Lil Looper vs LP-2 vs Delaylab-with-external-battery To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2012, 1:17 PM The local store seems to never be actually getting in the Vox Lil Looper I'= ve been waiting to try out so I'm hoping someone here with practical hands = on experience with that and maybe one or both of these others might chime i= n with a word or two.=20 Vox Lil Looper is tied with LP-2 in my mind... both are battery powered, LP= -2 has more functions but the Lil Looper is small and simple.=20 It doesn't look like any of them have loop copy.=A0 (The third option is th= e Delay lab, but no battery power built in and it looks like less features = actual looping functions, though I like the general form factor and look...= if I go for big and featured over small and simple.)=20 If they did have loop copy, or if it's possible one will in the near future= via an update or something, that might do it.=20 My questions are: Do they feel "natural" and "right" (both in how your foot= feels pressing it and the immediacy of execution. Sound and ease of use li= ve? Thoughts about specific functions the LP-2 has to offer the Lil Looper = doesn't. Like, it appears to have some sort of quantize function... does th= at somehow work even when not synced to a midi clock or just when there's a= midi clock signal to show it where the one (or whatever, I'm a midiot... b= asically looking for that "lame duck" period as in the Echoplex manual.) Anywhoo.... thoughts welcome since it looks like I'll have to choose withou= t touching them myself. This is to be more like a sketch pad then an actual= performance hub so price and simplicity and compactness steer me towards t= he Lil Looper, but I worry it'll feel crappy and toy-ish and that I'll grow= board without more advanced functions, like half speed.=20 THANK YOU! --130582594-1210725929-1349836532=:83452 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
just ordered my Vox Lil Looper hoping f= or a good battery operated substitute for my boomerang 2 .....may be for bu= sking in the spring 

Kyle D= ean Patten
P.= O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131
   &= nbsp;        
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+

http://youtu.= be/Mgy2dbQHkc4
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= http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten
http:= //www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten

--- On Tue, 10= /9/12, Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com> wrote:
=

From: Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.c= om>
Subject: Vox Lil Looper vs LP-2 vs Delaylab-with-external-battery=
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, October 9, 20= 12, 1:17 PM


The local store seems to ne= ver be actually getting in the Vox Lil Looper I've been waiting to try out = so I'm hoping someone here with practical hands on experience with that and= maybe one or both of these others might chime in with a word or two.
<= br>Vox Lil Looper is tied with LP-2 in my mind... both are battery powered,= LP-2 has more functions but the Lil Looper is small and simple.

It doesn't look like any of them have loop copy.  (The third = option is the Delay lab, but no battery power built in and it looks like le= ss features actual looping functions, though I like the general form factor= and look... if I go for big and featured over small and simple.)

I= f they did have loop copy, or if it's possible one will in the near future = via an update or something, that might do it.

My questions are: Do = they feel "natural" and "right" (both in how your foot feels pressing it an= d the immediacy of execution. Sound and ease of use live? Thoughts about sp= ecific functions the LP-2 has to offer the Lil Looper doesn't. Like, it app= ears to have some sort of quantize function... does that somehow work even = when not synced to a midi clock or just when there's a midi clock signal to= show it where the one (or whatever, I'm a midiot... basically looking for = that "lame duck" period as in the Echoplex manual.)

Anywhoo.... thoughts welcome since it looks like I'll have= to choose without touching them myself. This is to be more like a sketch p= ad then an actual performance hub so price and simplicity and compactness s= teer me towards the Lil Looper, but I worry it'll feel crappy and toy-ish a= nd that I'll grow board without more advanced functions, like half speed. <= br>
THANK YOU!
--130582594-1210725929-1349836532=:83452-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 02:43:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5B3918347B; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=GwfVj37NMr81X9EdraoCv5DihqYSm5UA3+UeQnImVZc=; b=rKe3zAclWlEgCC3wI9gczGHAwCusPs5FiganunPTpy0KP/pZk+m35DY+i+OVnPz6il RDFO98LnbZSWctAROT44ETAVqQxQqS23E8eeL9TFwQSpuILFKlKLynAlYyjO5dQIyPjB YxKS8NWRj3QfVy7AXEWubc1W0OjM45r8xSm8P7RHk/Br35PmxAVQw3SYN6mdpHS+5lWA ec/6dqiroRIFZjFL1yBSyrZwXj6NDbWVuoc6jldvLq14Z4jGyB7Rru1VKX7exaYvTon5 w1lG46YQDHGRXHSuIVjub1Bi2n8klTonYEMmlN62YzyA3RM+wvGQb5uwWUS6YgkdRhVa qSZA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Vox Lil Looper vs LP-2 vs Delaylab-with-external-battery From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <1349826564.71764.YahooMailNeo@web161404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:37 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <8426755C-10BD-44AD-92A8-E28CB0C93DAD@gmail.com> <1349826564.71764.YahooMailNeo@web161404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:43:42 +0000 (UTC) On 09.10.2012, at 20:49, Paul Richards wrote: > I am also interested in obtaining an LP-2 though. I am wondering if = these are shipping now or if the manufacturer is taking care of back = orders and & earlier problem units. by some accident I got a mail from Bob just before this, saying:=20 "If you are contacting me about more information about the LP2, I have = just completed the redesign of the unit. I have all of the parts in = hand and now will begin assembly of the LP2 loopers. The audio has been = greatly improved." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 03:07:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0B0E183479; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=rFoWQPPx4fDLHNpOO81igkbe9QdMBkO4r4HdcKs7eaP2DAMZdZ8QUOdVl1JngIgl; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:07:27 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec794cc397d1c7e9701c7d8b3dd1e17d7130350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <4QsknB.A.ozG.1ZOdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:07:33 +0000 (UTC) This mailing list doesn't allow attachments... :( >Hey fellow looper folks! > >I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each >have set up our looping equipment for live/performance. > >I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal >gear, and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll >be able to contribute with mine soon. > >And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) > >Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, > >/Torben Scharling -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 03:15:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0540D18347C; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=LGtdz67fDu144SH85/YNXqXQWgRrF11HOuA0Wx1htGE=; b=tUqseFdQ7YUYYjZ1b0hniCXTuzBPd3Zb5O63T5Noq3f/2Bv/Ab+Tfb2i1cnwWpSLmf FOhKX45o4uV2zMBsa8LFPnA6kMRdKcH65Iq34+snV6VjGQpdg6EhMWItQspsDFjcEL0U Qp2/6pqnbrX35e5VFaYTWo3N4+veFbkNJ1r1Ll3HuQ2QbJRUpdI/QWrlJL7Y++MKkUUQ 6onPq7fMqWawvgFqBlm+3N3C2+G1OUasxRr9PmFBbtdbhowR8F1bDUZBOPr6TQ85Ir9L 4KbJZTkXwqu2/63McD0MiOt6rZkDk2LAPP3hGTIggoygxHc5enfIfxF/KWwX517ujkMc ZAbA== Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> From: Torben Scharling Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D1F81C45-0749-4F9E-A593-C279B74C1034 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:15:04 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:15:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-D1F81C45-0749-4F9E-A593-C279B74C1034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable :( :( :( how's bout using http://imageshack.us or another free picture uploa= der and just copy paste ? :) :) :) On 10/10/2012, at 05.07, Charles Zwicky wrote: > This mailing list doesn't allow attachments... :( >=20 >> Hey fellow looper folks! >>=20 >> I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each have s= et up our looping equipment for live/performance. >>=20 >> I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal gear, a= nd need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be able to con= tribute with mine soon. >>=20 >> And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) >>=20 >> Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, >>=20 >> /Torben Scharling >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix >=20 --Apple-Mail-D1F81C45-0749-4F9E-A593-C279B74C1034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
:( :( :( how's bout using http://imageshac= k.us or another free picture uploader and just copy paste ? :) :) :)


On 10/1= 0/2012, at 05.07, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

This mailing list d= oesn't allow attachments...  :(

Hey fellow looper folks!

I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each have s= et up our looping equipment for live/performance.

I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal g= ear, and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be able t= o contribute with mine soon.

And remember= : A picture is worth more than a thousand words :)

Influenza greetings from Copenhagen,

= /Torben Scharling


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/C= huckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix

= --Apple-Mail-D1F81C45-0749-4F9E-A593-C279B74C1034-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 04:01:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 595F018347D; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fSoiPpk1mMQq8dnCQ4Y+s3JgfNTjD2ysrEdtca9VCYw=; b=OT1YuN+zcpReAKPPCghtlgcGuwzodxWs5lFeIjJODab/LSgkqXqLZww4B2VbNU6Kk+ FfKZpfemCnJ/yRQsbCesqpM0jM2p0vSwLV9SXZdqAG24ZdJYHoPoD2RJHIEoSXlx1CDL flJsx3eV1stwdWLn6rQ1tYGZzPRoLf+UMhxx/9iGQo8J9UBVMm98AVx/sNZp/YmJ6sBr P9VVjCt1tY9hPeKlnrURUU/gdaJvc5UMwRFNwF7lHkW4ZyrgRSSlOIQWioAsS7AKQ+/6 XZsk6uh2jxO7HDu8P5IRx2KY6YETwqfbTnyZD192cBCL4e4l5oqPq3uTtdC0TIPBizvr M6/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 00:01:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Bennett Williams To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba614b5215b87804cbac829b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:01:25 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba614b5215b87804cbac829b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's mine: https://picasaweb.google.com/110438867527796473566/LoopingRig03?authuser=0&feat=directlink Boomerang III, Moog Etherwave Theremin Plus, Infernal Noise Machine, Trailer Trash Pedalboard, Manley Mono mic pre, Langevin ELOP stereo limiter, Dangerous Music BAX EQ, Jensen Modified Presonus MP-20, Busman Modified Korg MR2000s recorder. -Bennett On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Torben Scharling wrote: > Hey fellow looper folks! > > I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each have > set up our looping equipment for live/performance. > > I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal gear, > and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be able to > contribute with mine soon. > > And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) > > Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, > > /Torben Scharling > -- Bennett Williams http://www.bennettwilliams.net --90e6ba614b5215b87804cbac829b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's mine:

https://picasaweb.google.com/110438867527796473566/LoopingRig03?authuser=0&feat=directlink

Boomerang III, Moog Etherwave Theremin Plus, Infernal Noise Machine, Trailer Trash Pedalboard, Manley Mono mic pre, Langevin ELOP stereo limiter, Dangerous Music BAX EQ, Jensen Modified Presonus MP-20, Busman Modified Korg MR2000s recorder.

-Bennett

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Torben Scharling <torbenscharling@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey fellow looper folks!

I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each have set up our looping equipment for live/performance.

I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal gear, and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be able to contribute with mine soon.

And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :)

Influenza greetings from Copenhagen,

/Torben Scharling



--
Bennett Williams
http://www.bennettwilliams.net
--90e6ba614b5215b87804cbac829b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 05:17:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5151F18347E; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=P1qDK5aqioKF1TzSs1Pu5/uVc0RHi1nXTNZ1R4tG19c=; b=yt+asw9jeUpD8qBnGP5OGmIfM2J1CM2QSs8Z0VtlCiRUCTn7rGfQAXZ2ePCAyQrzur UG0UEjaohWgctU8BvFfBo0MfaII/Dpw55Jb8c2uRfx5Rlqj3bqnIdW6NnKB3F/1R/yK7 2sRT39aJpjlBn21a+7SofcsQD6ZCnj4rb8sdiunC3g7AkXkDQGbueYS5QdcWgrumAg6w Kxdbe0v/YKXSfEk4/hufaMQ+PoI+Y5aVw8QgLcXmhugygXt1GDKYnXfVfqTPwT8NqUcD qU8vgYWUFsQvblWjWq7/JHnK26qvHtn9w9hQl/d7hiavspWo5w8rPGnMtFfQ1Zu9+m1J uuBA== Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> From: Torben Scharling Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6F3C41C4-A94C-42CA-A5DF-00CA9B4169D7 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <028A2AFE-F6EA-4E91-BB34-694A4D064206@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:17:17 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: <-2jlcB.A.eO.jTQdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:17:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6F3C41C4-A94C-42CA-A5DF-00CA9B4169D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool :) and a fellow Rang III & Side Car user :D Thanks for sharing & caring= On 10/10/2012, at 06.01, Bennett Williams w= rote: > Here's mine: >=20 > https://picasaweb.google.com/110438867527796473566/LoopingRig03?authuser=3D= 0&feat=3Ddirectlink >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-6F3C41C4-A94C-42CA-A5DF-00CA9B4169D7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cool :) and a fellow Rang III & Side Car user :D Thanks for sharing & caring

On 10/10/2012, at 06.01, Bennett Williams <bennettwilliamsdrums@gmail.com> wrote:

--Apple-Mail-6F3C41C4-A94C-42CA-A5DF-00CA9B4169D7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 08:10:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97E34183475; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=N4/jVW5Y10WgbLSRFMhOKi8OoalceMjBB3v5pekOgqo=; b=T0bvfJZ7A8PE7TXIDQsy2R0UFdh/mSg23dvKu1SMC+5491IySSaQnzYvy2v80tOUvL fyQEobW9tsLyM4Mc3xaWU1tXrM6kdPPSYbLmJQXle4bDGiYs4EM+7UsWEQUFmcSGaGlr 36tmlP4RnH01T2Fd9vAWl6SBjm1BmhiRtnoXLSOQbTXWBNeQOHTpFJn71/6Mjoutfzz6 zqHZ4Cc1J5v0DnKrREjqInX5Rw4ZrEYls/PS56DawDtGmAX+BlzJ9jxlz/yBgZc9vDJ6 Oo+sTaj00wke+WGQSYIz2ewO76K3lUl/4r3lcTlRaWG9NpdfO8KZ1Id3fn5TWjZ1r5EJ uuKA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:10:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: WTB: Loop IV EPROMs for Echoplex Looper From: lance hill To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae934032ba7242f04cbaffb3e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:10:09 +0000 (UTC) --14dae934032ba7242f04cbaffb3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please let me know if you have an extra set of Loop IV EPROM chips for the Echoplex Digital Pro looper that you'd be willing to sell. You can reach me at: usaforlsd@gmail.com Thanks. --14dae934032ba7242f04cbaffb3e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please let me know if you have an extra set of Loop IV EPROM chips for the Echoplex Digital Pro looper that you'd be willing to sell.
You can reach me at: usaforlsd@gmail.com
Thanks.

--14dae934032ba7242f04cbaffb3e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 08:25:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F525183476; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qMYvCl9s2FwNaWZLbIugeP7I9X25ptBVoBdmwSmOHyY=; b=Fgzsai7jKisdxEsN1eO/+CUT5tD2VnC3VXoIb9b97bEo+zfYR/vPSesP+T+ID1iXCQ iNQ8UG2nlrQEv0E+c1cuPsEP/NzswW5mWeDrEFI7UJdSwSp79og1qWe2TdwHnxYBKHyS oOHiRg2uD3anWeciebpuDxk+tz6496O0t/nyW1sosFwXXnvV+JxRdrLKMoJFHCgMJX9g ooizuwnWGG9FUOk7ueexfW/vCBF2/CahGiYR7jn0XDNRoOodUMEovsS2LOSPx1ibd2t6 fuzwK2Rf2uasAVZjX3KpBlyh4evrMjxSyzaWxO25TJlUXnCfbiu31vycPWcl9UFkbchn 33dQ== Message-ID: <507530F7.4010601@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:25:27 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8bg74.A._UC.7DTdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Am 10.10.2012 06:01, schrieb Bennett Williams: > Here's mine: > > https://picasaweb.google.com/110438867527796473566/LoopingRig03?authuser=0&feat=directlink > > Boomerang III, Moog Etherwave Theremin Plus, Infernal Noise Machine, > Trailer Trash Pedalboard, Manley Mono mic pre, Langevin ELOP stereo > limiter, Dangerous Music BAX EQ, Jensen Modified Presonus MP-20, > Busman Modified Korg MR2000s recorder. Way to go...your shelving EQ alone is most possibly worth more than the whole rig of many other people ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 13:20:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04CDB183473; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=te6KvisWxe90drtMkxUlXIU/Vyr5BR0ZnbYoZSnCPiY=; b=03mZoOwPTsyESwvCFCBwVdm4ARmoIUDevE9GT1GnCzaG0VLeYGlrHyInDLXQCkSCdX RYXrqLqlBoOxEK1eD3KDrbkAY4PSYMy9trGTS7mQSYoiY9XpaFuSOzJT+mchFrpCfC+w kHY/Xu1yevlI5Vjjnwh3afoeJl+YIxEnrhqaTasJgjEshEMXHdcW3TRV6JK+OHWGVGWi ovfY5TbK4oY4SAi6CF9Z//u4hUNpZudHwOEHagRc1y4dGt0uAsfyww/qjLr7UttrEr/J Q+72NM1vZa49n7w4cbCQreBl6ixZgrdw38eHUmO+02ovCwTyri7JvO48JdGlkdkUIg6K msAA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) From: Philip In-Reply-To: <9BC7ACD4-42F9-4624-A1C2-E1A6B9284D4C@carlsonarts.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:20:00 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7B1EAF3C-685D-4796-BB47-427EAA118F33@gmail.com> References: <1349794503.8896.YahooMailClassic@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9BC7ACD4-42F9-4624-A1C2-E1A6B9284D4C@carlsonarts.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: <4vpYwC.A.zoE.HYXdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:20:07 +0000 (UTC) I was having a similar problem a while back. I thought that it would be = great if we all switched to a standard Internet forum type of format, = like TheGearPage, Gearslutz, or just about every other forum that I use. = That way I could read the topics that interested me and ignore the rest. = I realized that it wasn't going to happen. There is a forum like that = for loopers, but no one uses it. The people's whose posts I love to read = all post here.=20 I found a way to get almost all of the benefits of a forum without = anyone (except me) changing a thing. Here's what I did: philip.ojc@gmail.com is one of my many email addresses. It is dedicated = to LD. I only see it on my mail feed at home--not on my iPhone or my = laptop. I use my email server (Mail [mac]) several times a day, but I = don't wade through LD messages unless I choose to check the new messages = in the inbox on my dedicated LD email account. I don't know how your server works, but if your server is like Mail, you = can get threads to show up as a group of however many messages are in = the thread. If the subject line interests me, I can click on the thread = and read through the messages from start to finish. Cool thing is, when = I want to find something on the EDP for example, I can do a search = through the thousands of LD mails and find threads that discuss it in = the messages or the subject line. I can also search for posts by Rick = Walker or Per or Kay'lon. I haven't worked all of the bugs out yet. = Mainly, I can't see my own posts, but fortunately for me (and = UNfortunately for you), a lot of people quote previous posts, so if I = scroll through the thread I can usually see the dumb comments that I = posted and what people are responding to. Just an idea. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 13:41:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66EB7183475; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=S/7cOxPJbJsUlV0FSmiuENQ15hhq5Ps6LbJYW2LUUgw=; b=oNtP6GrUe1ZwVuSBASkDHvc0Z0RHW6F+ms2mO5HsQzZJ1+O0c85t6opSfZH4Dv2NIg IiJFOpRAW4imWylQ2I3UdZjkhM8UdO0sRCChsxiQGU+zDsm/lq2nrNzcQDPDLDaoDp6S yMWM4L+sGI45B9KebTI61lHD5UAyll6iY3y2N52ZL1O+UpFLrpYQHN/4QOkxFXqUIGLG 6YJXtVPd82JeLR6cZQb2xxa2zchclPhGmEzZq+F07Nki429ikttyOZtZZ/7hYogqA4TL sZsEf77xGhYtNUFkVk0CYEAQrSaDFS3E9VXF6xFwsygfHOtD0wd5enGh137vWVAfA+Wh dk+g== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Philip In-Reply-To: <507530F7.4010601@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:41:26 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> <507530F7.4010601@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: <4Uc86B.A.P6E.LsXdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Mine isn't really a pedalboard per se. Here is the rack and controllers. = http://s457.photobucket.com/albums/qq299/block190/?action=3Dview¤t=3D= IMG_0041.jpg and here are the noisemakers on my desk: = http://s457.photobucket.com/albums/qq299/block190/?action=3Dview¤t=3D= IMG_0042-1.jpg One could say that I have a Roland problem, but the only Roland problems = I am willing to admit to are that my 808 is missing one of the orange = buttons and my Space Echo is mangling tape. This is also the reason I need more than the little Rane 1U mixer.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 13:43:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6786183479; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=2HxgZc9/HyRKDPbvphHD0BhPhRev/hSBKQdfoA/EBTU=; b=Bmoek7UQqAwp+pmepaIRkAAq+KMELLSMwRBwsiypFWvVLRSwpULpaMnHPndCRNlfgr eh9tVoFF1soGmdphWwF95qLpq1e64gaKT8XN/KdILFGUH3B+8pvvZXRQi8/xdbDrd5hN 9Brbvw6WXV8XWyXSSAunPAkmIQGDKDW474ibKI4QUl6HoM8w0yLZsmXLnD7anMYB8gEY wzW0KoDoHB9lAITw9LIEKFkk9sj8afMr27705SQKBnNuWHfi4N/DR/VmFMoVBR+5Ff6y Lth5o2yZkgMh8sGqPTAtZIhcBOUzxygYHN3ezQv6+GqWDtyEt9v8oFKtfAHOS8tcTEHB GNDg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Philip In-Reply-To: <507530F7.4010601@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:43:53 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <623B7AB6-BAAE-4A0E-A5A1-86F12B1F84D7@gmail.com> References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> <507530F7.4010601@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Oops. I missed the "live" in the OP. Frankly, I don't know what I would do live. The rack is portable, but... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 13:54:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0822318347A; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qf7iGGWi1j7LfoiFNzHV3loC3hoYyPI82CMrOpE3m+U=; b=MOi22PzWHdA3D5/AaJGYM6bKeVwfh2hEjRPOQL4Fam+QB6pZ9D8lqXRPaK0f2XiOEO BLzIfr9P2RubSnhQA1D1qKUYVNBCaZ/eRX62H1HMzu95bgSFPHo4Gvh8oA/1jdkZOM8i /8/44C1UkI/BJxso+xCxeeDtHHDrkTGib8iSPj1moS7mNj2rXQAcjEEnXfc9xBLO6TFs Y0wxZcQlHuFGfXRBhitLL1G7sGKApJ4GwSVDehpkMQMWVABWhFIqm5anWmHQQrDgOPDj JeRHqZrRr2+p8pdCtr+eioc9xQfapJ4YNI/Ou8o2MyjJYD5DqXxYu1E2PCVuUne9C0SF zfiQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7B1EAF3C-685D-4796-BB47-427EAA118F33@gmail.com> References: <1349794503.8896.YahooMailClassic@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9BC7ACD4-42F9-4624-A1C2-E1A6B9284D4C@carlsonarts.com> <7B1EAF3C-685D-4796-BB47-427EAA118F33@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:54:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Not a solution for everyone, but If you're already using gmail, multiple inboxes are worth a look: http://gmailblog.blogspot.ca/2009/02/new-in-labs-multiple-inboxes.html It makes my digital life a lot easier to manage... Sylvain On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Philip wrote: > philip.ojc@gmail.com is one of my many email addresses. It is dedicated t= o LD. I only see it on my mail feed at home--not on my iPhone or my laptop.= I use my email server (Mail [mac]) several times a day, but I don't wade t= hrough LD messages unless I choose to check the new messages in the inbox o= n my dedicated LD email account. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 14:03:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9708A18347D; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zegH//WLdNipsQM/VccjgNuKMQF0KhfO5J+dQFiU2Ks=; b=HcpR8Vdm8TTWpPnbqOD3h4j4RMyFN7os7W8CpW7dGxrvnt+Aw1jxTdVqIE2a59p35U UvwiTa3eFoPsyP4cgf941A8A+Y+6yzkM0ixzocHmfwizvrjSw1GbYzTizUcdvHhn5Dnu DYKuhBIOxgWQbeA9VA7a1eeCcY08CmHGar/LuoW+WjvUc+khvA2pfWjRr6RBn0J/bQDO /R3kNRAVIERjV9xJAPI2reZB/LZ7MwdwbRnVqVmZyyMZfmLRIK8dXyLt+h88m6pFuNF/ SAsmvUK6ax3QGivyWaJO2ESPGnKblM1ezsel6TY5hSFp4tpE5Rw9aD3BW0fEdUKPGugt 0xZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:03:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Torben Scharling wrote: > DIY pedalboard I used to bring a huge rack full of devices and a mixer on the top, but today I do it all in software. That's a better way for me to go DIY, since I seem to always be on a budget. What I bring to a gig, except for my cosen source audio instrument, is: 1. MIDI control pedal board. 2. Small (2 cig packages sized) MIDI hand mixer. 3. Laptop. 4. Audio interface. I pop a USB hub into the laptop and connect the gaffer taped USB cables to the pedal board and the hand mixer (if I happen to bring a GR55 guitar synth this too goes by a USB cable). Then I connect a firewire cable to the audio interface and two output lines to the PA system. Finally I connect power chords, power on and then I'm ready to play. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 14:48:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A068318347F; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=W-UsH_mmGx0A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=5-53UvGwAAAA:8 a=vP-79YHBRtmiAwaq_VIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=hLaO24bWdJ0A:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:48:21 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <453BFD9A-2C4C-43F2-AF77-158B3BB90C7D@charter.net> References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:48:22 +0000 (UTC) A couple of pictures: My old rig from about 10 years ago: My current rig (and the one I used last Saturday night, minus one EV-5, = the EH KillSwitch, and the Lexicon Tap/AB switch shown): A diagram of how it is all connected: A shot of what the screen looks like: = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 15:24:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BC45183481; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ronTfUevW6dIX/8abcL1SGzPPHFFi/DwKdAggiRx/3U=; b=NhyLs+H7Wqg4aYCA00Ovo8h5cEZ2rpLFX7C/3dV/9bFULc5YEK3iV8vJWvWH0hXHM7 eUgbadzJSan6QtEjitmyJF1pwa7b0aifZuLIf26cAYBmjy6EN7qZNxMYdxhbDduzO/W1 oq7CvuHLfwHvAyKpAfDLoa1K477jgnAS61KXf5qoN1xdSYhtWkHnEek5b4Ie3QCHe6Vl BrgA+CEsQiDJHvjPAtmOja1WRGJ4kWB1gX9HIjhHfheONiWb+tDTkqVsbCFsNALOqau1 R2AY3fFH3MXbBDnFRwaY1UKxr1WdvByP/0jrlsXTPL6gZ4tZmKutcr0atieh/BxuyWIm bH7w== References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> <453BFD9A-2C4C-43F2-AF77-158B3BB90C7D@charter.net> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <453BFD9A-2C4C-43F2-AF77-158B3BB90C7D@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:24:51 +0200 Message-ID: <-1809684436864087084@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34392e992d0d04cbb60e93 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:24:57 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b34392e992d0d04cbb60e93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mine... http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/marks-rack-2011/ a few changes since photo, the Kaoscillator is gone and now there's a GR 55, plus a bit of a rearrange... --047d7b34392e992d0d04cbb60e93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mine...

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--047d7b34392e992d0d04cbb60e93-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 15:55:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5876183481; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KVs3ZPME/8PhDLtB2lsLgzIh9ElEYyEEdws6SAdbBvQ=; b=qN4rlnurqrsNTV6DF6BhJswBtyZdmchtp9DTEJbZEhQ0WOYV4qRkUsCJnuIzFPmW1Q xepkbvhVM3xNi/cKJKqlR1s50CHjopheip1bNPxPQvsFPulX58JrHB7LP3WxAGgTdsrs ybQS2KuVmFPjwtkpixCKOzYT/kirBZeQpfaDRBJmg9jdNkK5KeZDgVn6BpSy2RaLcsvW Zdh0IG2aaLdG67vi6liVLuJ4WGBfO/PZyTp+JNZl6vhiMoYXv6qegiX0IdQ6QU0fBIAH 8Yp40+aTs+kFGpbUxxEAendcxI/aWZ1wnUQ2mjF5ABZFwWSsY6/N88J784eZqDorcFGc LJPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:55:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040714afdac0b104cbb67a3d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:55:13 +0000 (UTC) --f46d040714afdac0b104cbb67a3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I almost only play live online so my setup is not movable. When I played Y2KX I took a "minimal" amount and it was about 100 pounds! Almost killed me! Cables weigh a lot! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear2.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear1.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear-cat.jpg The cat Isaac is integral :) I have added a laptop and LPK-25 for vst scapes/noises http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear3.JPG What I brought to Y2KX in use https://vimeo.com/16034181 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Torben Scharling wrote: > Hey fellow looper folks! > > I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each have > set up our looping equipment for live/performance. > > I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal gear, > and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be able to > contribute with mine soon. > > And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) > > Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, > > /Torben Scharling > --f46d040714afdac0b104cbb67a3d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I almost only play live online so my setup is not movable. When I played Y2= KX I took a "minimal" amount and it was about 100 pounds! Almost = killed me! Cables weigh a lot!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear2.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/= u/679233/gear1.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear-cat.jpg The cat Isaac is int= egral :)

I have added a laptop and LPK-25 for vst scapes/noises
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear= 3.JPG

What I brought to Y2KX in use https://vimeo.com/16034181







On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 = at 10:26 PM, Torben Scharling <torbenscharling@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey fellow looper folks!

I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each have set= up our looping equipment for live/performance.

I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal gear,= and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be able= to contribute with mine soon.

And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :)

Influenza greetings from Copenhagen,

/Torben Scharling

--f46d040714afdac0b104cbb67a3d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 16:17:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C8F618348B; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M7LHOKzjaQ5imZBBMtTxPZfR+0JZt++Li5uP0m0KDN8=; b=JLQ9FzlMyH20hVtDB3q263qvKnVl8IBH5nxsV+c1yBMHo3dKAwNER7myskTs+hbZmi T+aierQUUV2mwD06KMZ+I+z6tWSH6PxEpXgjB6Uv9QGrkyTENOJS5JMcqFf2mFSPED+c Q73h9PkuqjQCSQ6l1L4FdwF47yBOB8wMk2+Mux1P13GGieh/rKCUKK3peM/fYK7xYfzi lt/pLtcJy/jC94Rb6KQniaeYTYusYnebPiujHt3EHsV/dI9BHvAlL6XKe/IguAyP1elI sKkCdPUjowNEWyFNCWECm/45tIEBDuA46iJk/1C8XSkLIs+to8lVedzjcHz44RUA3b55 OzOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:17:47 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:17:48 +0000 (UTC) I think that my life will be complete the day I get to hear and see Ted Killian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE expression pedals in there =85 :-) =85 And Jeff Duke's right: The Studio Cat is essential. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I almost only play live online so my setup is not movable. When I played > Y2KX I took a "minimal" amount and it was about 100 pounds! Almost killed > me! Cables weigh a lot! > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear2.jpg > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear1.jpg > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear-cat.jpg The cat Isaac is integral :) > > I have added a laptop and LPK-25 for vst scapes/noises > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear3.JPG > > What I brought to Y2KX in use https://vimeo.com/16034181 > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Torben Scharling > wrote: >> >> Hey fellow looper folks! >> >> I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each have >> set up our looping equipment for live/performance. >> >> I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal gear, >> and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be able t= o >> contribute with mine soon. >> >> And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) >> >> Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, >> >> /Torben Scharling > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 19:27:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2887F18348B; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 538 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:27:51 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Tristan Zand In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:18:54 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <45145874-6329-42E2-AA51-2E8AEC6A327A@zzz.ch> References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Hey all, that was a great idea! After having used so many diverse rack, pedal, laptop loopers, I kind of = decided I was tired of all the stuff, so I've become a bit minimalist = these days.. FCB1010 with EurekaPROM to control the Adrenalinn (a 1 upgraded to a 3, = Roger's best!!), Rolls MP128p, Tascam iU2 interface, Loopr Live Loop = Composer, and a small and ever changing selection of pedals or rack = effects depending on my mood and the size of my gig bag. https://twitter.com/zdrilx/status/256110148009984000/photo/1/large https://twitter.com/zdrilx/status/256110270680809472/photo/1/large Cheers, :) Z On 10 oct. 2012, at 18:17, Dennis Moser wrote: > I think that my life will be complete the day I get to hear and see > Ted Killian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE expression pedals in > there =85 :-) =85 >=20 > And Jeff Duke's right: The Studio Cat is essential. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Dennis >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: >> I almost only play live online so my setup is not movable. When I = played >> Y2KX I took a "minimal" amount and it was about 100 pounds! Almost = killed >> me! Cables weigh a lot! >>=20 >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear2.jpg >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear1.jpg >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear-cat.jpg The cat Isaac is integral = :) >>=20 >> I have added a laptop and LPK-25 for vst scapes/noises >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear3.JPG >>=20 >> What I brought to Y2KX in use https://vimeo.com/16034181 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Torben Scharling >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hey fellow looper folks! >>>=20 >>> I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each = have >>> set up our looping equipment for live/performance. >>>=20 >>> I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal = gear, >>> and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be = able to >>> contribute with mine soon. >>>=20 >>> And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) >>>=20 >>> Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, >>>=20 >>> /Torben Scharling >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 19:43:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E50118348A; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Tristan Zand In-Reply-To: <45145874-6329-42E2-AA51-2E8AEC6A327A@zzz.ch> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:43:03 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> <45145874-6329-42E2-AA51-2E8AEC6A327A@zzz.ch> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:43:01 +0000 (UTC) A small addition. Yes, we did use another setup when playing with our live-looping combo a = few years back (some of the rare photos I was able to find where we = could see the hardware setup): http://twitpic.com/b2xavn http://twitpic.com/b2xatg http://twitpic.com/b2xaq9 http://twitpic.com/b2xaxn Two live-loopers using laptops (using with live audio feed in from the = others, sound generators, miscellaneous instruments, objects, = microphones, ... using loads of weird apps for audio and video). One = guitarist with loads of pedals and effects, and an RC50. Same for the = bassist (me..). Fun times... ;) Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 10 oct. 2012, at 21:18, Tristan Zand wrote: > Hey all, that was a great idea! > After having used so many diverse rack, pedal, laptop loopers, I kind = of decided I was tired of all the stuff, so I've become a bit minimalist = these days.. > FCB1010 with EurekaPROM to control the Adrenalinn (a 1 upgraded to a = 3, Roger's best!!), Rolls MP128p, Tascam iU2 interface, Loopr Live Loop = Composer, and a small and ever changing selection of pedals or rack = effects depending on my mood and the size of my gig bag. > https://twitter.com/zdrilx/status/256110148009984000/photo/1/large > https://twitter.com/zdrilx/status/256110270680809472/photo/1/large > Cheers, > :) > Z >=20 > On 10 oct. 2012, at 18:17, Dennis Moser wrote: >=20 >> I think that my life will be complete the day I get to hear and see >> Ted Killian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE expression pedals in >> there =85 :-) =85 >>=20 >> And Jeff Duke's right: The Studio Cat is essential. >>=20 >> Best, >>=20 >> Dennis >>=20 >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >>=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: >>> I almost only play live online so my setup is not movable. When I = played >>> Y2KX I took a "minimal" amount and it was about 100 pounds! Almost = killed >>> me! Cables weigh a lot! >>>=20 >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear2.jpg >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear1.jpg >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear-cat.jpg The cat Isaac is = integral :) >>>=20 >>> I have added a laptop and LPK-25 for vst scapes/noises >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear3.JPG >>>=20 >>> What I brought to Y2KX in use https://vimeo.com/16034181 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Torben Scharling >>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hey fellow looper folks! >>>>=20 >>>> I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each = have >>>> set up our looping equipment for live/performance. >>>>=20 >>>> I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal = gear, >>>> and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be = able to >>>> contribute with mine soon. >>>>=20 >>>> And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) >>>>=20 >>>> Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, >>>>=20 >>>> /Torben Scharling >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 20:22:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9B21183492; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20121010152212.20506lo9kp6nw3jo@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:22:12 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, lance hill Subject: Re: WTB: Loop IV EPROMs for Echoplex Looper References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.11) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Why not order from the site? http://www.aurisis.com/loopiv_order.htm Quoting lance hill : > Please let me know if you have an extra set of Loop IV EPROM chips for the > Echoplex Digital Pro looper that you'd be willing to sell. > You can reach me at: usaforlsd@gmail.com > Thanks. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 23:17:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDFB6183476; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=T/x1a7OWbh5wmDnnBf0QBHhMsU6YFjWzWiqouiztwkY=; b=hNPHb9cUHPYnDyRJ9Lrf7pR9Y6ir9TfR8K5ksAwuxGmn9C2hQHnjpHhgv5npZux30/ 3KsPitbqPmqP50VFp49UcE5PNX8TAadpObP7m0ww+qMgOkjpXM9+46g3qCJ0ktq1xR7K dPABnXKBC0bH3sizYMo9vrHdl6wbLBxNJaawa9csKHwPMh5Uxv81N3DDm70SQIxR8uJx 7yX164c9CrAE1yi1Ipt5KWuPpmwrkHXfugpHd+d/KXGJNkYez15cNM/WzEbPM4ShLxk4 zkA1n74LLaaY6Fp1Z3h8P2EHpHyLW7Zb1jDwB6Gwjqv1Atno2HNplWob6Q5s+gBqMddV RK2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> <45145874-6329-42E2-AA51-2E8AEC6A327A@zzz.ch> From: Torben Scharling Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:16:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040716e310481804cbbca7b8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:17:05 +0000 (UTC) --f46d040716e310481804cbbca7b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh my, this thread is gold ! :D Just came back from a long audition for a band, phew...if all goes well, I should be getting some dough starting next month, actually playing music, on stage...imagine that :) Before I dive more into the pictures and posts in here, let me just say to Ted Killian's rig: dang, that's a lot of ev-5'! That's like, kind of, what I've been dreaming about - being able to control so many different parameters with individual expression pedals - awesome!! --f46d040716e310481804cbbca7b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh my, this thread is gold ! :D Just came back from a long audition for a b= and, phew...if all goes well, I should be getting some dough starting next = month, actually playing music, on stage...imagine that :)

Before I d= ive more into the pictures and posts in here, let me just say to Ted Killia= n's rig: dang, that's a lot of ev-5'! That's like, kind of,= what I've been dreaming about - being able to control so many differen= t parameters with individual expression pedals - awesome!! --f46d040716e310481804cbbca7b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 23:30:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF96A183476; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=t5I/i2dCssRu6iGNNJQzDc7q18eHQzN8jgeV6OtBjdw=; b=K8UkyESB32yyaYuxNONymVkDVQyH705OdFcCvGLSMr8vQVPv/rr/k9mAtzQlPgwSQ5 rofGDY4tkVJkO70TapibfZPg2xH1A4n8nSHqiXcHhry38GC8k0MqozGzrDCPjyBdYBBv M81Uw5tbrDiR43P/t2aAZUFkrQrClqSfHwqyOWpkXeIm/W0u1PQWgODuZeN7Ky6kdCBx XhO5X0cZLvYRqK27bPlsWyahjwp+ILUfrCNWtAuFbsPz1RCxhlwOZDLZTTlhPS0C3pv7 vk+c6+yz2CG/3cGEN/G4YE9piu17rFQ2liXKmpuIerO/GfioijRF0bvSzoZijv/cveGA lA9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> From: Torben Scharling Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:29:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f23455da4642e04cbbcd58a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:30:06 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f23455da4642e04cbbcd58a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My two cents/long dribble is, that the one I've been looking at getting, as an upgrade to my M-audio FW1814 (mostly because I need better latency) is the RME Fireface UFX. However, I've read much good about the MOTU* ** Ultralite*-*mk3* Hybrid. Particularly related to this topic, I've read that the RME's work well especially on PC's, where MOTU should worl especially well on mac's - so I'm leaning towards getting the MOTU ultralite mk3 instead of the RME UFX, because it's more than half the price and should have as low latency or even lower, and have super stable mac drivers, whereas RME should be more of a PC thing. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's down to small geeky things, as I'm sure RME should work really well on MAC's also, I just don't wanna take any chances with my next soundcard purchase, so I wanna get what's most suited and tailormade for mac's as possible :) --e89a8f23455da4642e04cbbcd58a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My two cents/long dribble is, that the one I've been looking at getting= , as an upgrade to my M-audio FW1814 (mostly because I need better latency)= is the RME Fireface UFX. However, I've read much good about the MOTU Ultralite-mk3 Hybrid. Particul= arly related to this topic, I've read that the RME's work well espe= cially on PC's, where MOTU should worl especially well on mac's - s= o I'm leaning towards getting the MOTU ultralite mk3 instead of the RME= UFX, because it's more than half the price and should have as low late= ncy or even lower, and have super stable mac drivers, whereas RME should be= more of a PC thing. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, I think it&= #39;s down to small geeky things, as I'm sure RME should work really we= ll on MAC's also, I just don't wanna take any chances with my next = soundcard purchase, so I wanna get what's most suited and tailormade fo= r mac's as possible :)
 --e89a8f23455da4642e04cbbcd58a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 23:55:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3634C183479; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=W-UsH_mmGx0A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=myP459r3AAAA:8 a=hiGGu2Y6AAAA:8 a=yFuDAPCIAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=VAMm1qzQAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=HhugJFehVUbTVhQPTwcA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=wWUa150QXLzNj2XH:21 a=K_ShDLv7xB-To0g7:21 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:55:13 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Dear Dennis, It's a real tap-dance to be sure, 'cause I do actually use all 12 - = though, if I recall, I do think I've now pared it down to 11. However, you're still not missing much. Unless you think of a fat old white guy in a pony-tail sitting on a = stool going weedely-deedely-skronk, weedely-deedely-skronk on an = odd-shaped guitar is your idea of an attractive musical spectacle. And that's using the term "musical" very loosely indeed. Nobody who has ever seen me perform would ever dream of going very far = out of their way to see me do so a 2nd time. Consider yourself lucky. :-) Ted On Oct 10, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > I think that my life will be complete the day I get to hear and see > Ted Killian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE expression pedals in > there =85 :-) =85 >=20 > And Jeff Duke's right: The Studio Cat is essential. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Dennis >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: >> I almost only play live online so my setup is not movable. When I = played >> Y2KX I took a "minimal" amount and it was about 100 pounds! Almost = killed >> me! Cables weigh a lot! >>=20 >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear2.jpg >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear1.jpg >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear-cat.jpg The cat Isaac is integral = :) >>=20 >> I have added a laptop and LPK-25 for vst scapes/noises >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/gear3.JPG >>=20 >> What I brought to Y2KX in use https://vimeo.com/16034181 >>=20 >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Torben Scharling >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hey fellow looper folks! >>>=20 >>> I think many of us would be very interested in seeing, how we each = have >>> set up our looping equipment for live/performance. >>>=20 >>> I'm about to make a DIY pedalboard for my limit but crucial pedal = gear, >>> and need some inspiration. So please share, and hopefully I'll be = able to >>> contribute with mine soon. >>>=20 >>> And remember: A picture is worth more than a thousand words :) >>>=20 >>> Influenza greetings from Copenhagen, >>>=20 >>> /Torben Scharling >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 00:20:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6EF918347D; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=U9S6/+GjzKmdJA/MH2ZqdkmNHH/jqbGWWC0Hewo13yjQSwd5ckcW+2HLJ0GUiq6W; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:20:21 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Interface recommendations Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-862207660==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79debae823236da79e53eee5a902b5e9c2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:20:47 +0000 (UTC) --============_-862207660==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Latency is a function of the software driver, and the size of the buffer selected. Most of the available converters use a similar, if not identical chipset. Because of this, features are more important than anything in any current device, since the audio quality is typically a non issue. At 1:29 AM +0200 10/11/12, Torben Scharling wrote: >My two cents/long dribble is, that the one I've been looking at >getting, as an upgrade to my M-audio FW1814 (mostly because I need >better latency) is the RME Fireface UFX. However, I've read much >good about the MOTU Ultralite-mk3 Hybrid. Particularly related to >this topic, I've read that the RME's work well especially on PC's, >where MOTU should worl especially well on mac's - so I'm leaning >towards getting the MOTU ultralite mk3 instead of the RME UFX, >because it's more than half the price and should have as low latency >or even lower, and have super stable mac drivers, whereas RME should >be more of a PC thing. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, I >think it's down to small geeky things, as I'm sure RME should work >really well on MAC's also, I just don't wanna take any chances with >my next soundcard purchase, so I wanna get what's most suited and >tailormade for mac's as possible :) -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-862207660==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Interface recommendations
Latency is a function of the software driver, and the size of the buffer selected.  Most of the available converters use a similar, if not identical chipset.  Because of this, features are more important than anything in any current device, since the audio quality is typically a non issue.

At 1:29 AM +0200 10/11/12, Torben Scharling wrote:
My two cents/long dribble is, that the one I've been looking at getting, as an upgrade to my M-audio FW1814 (mostly because I need better latency) is the RME Fireface UFX. However, I've read much good about the MOTU Ultralite-mk3 Hybrid. Particularly related to this topic, I've read that the RME's work well especially on PC's, where MOTU should worl especially well on mac's - so I'm leaning towards getting the MOTU ultralite mk3 instead of the RME UFX, because it's more than half the price and should have as low latency or even lower, and have super stable mac drivers, whereas RME should be more of a PC thing. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's down to small geeky things, as I'm sure RME should work really well on MAC's also, I just don't wanna take any chances with my next soundcard purchase, so I wanna get what's most suited and tailormade for mac's as possible :)


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--============_-862207660==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 00:26:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19921183486; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yoKRbgGuylZj9IE0lfdmb1KqyHz/Opjol9Yw6aUZ6Lw=; b=y3BQ7Mp8bcZu6ybF256qjNld+FQMe7E6BzVDSf++lki6FluQ/V+0/XxCHuFdITREWy SfM3ly1/qG8coLSTtl+3TJDqPcTNnjRoc91AJdhusl2/VfbdnQ4kCaIR1pU358DvrWK8 TSZ6OpxMTm+SCMOgIP36x2X/YQ5/2bGD/OIXfK/FxoMIu9av5NNraBdTlfZWISq5QzAq F2wk6ro13DBEn2rh+HRv0hdm2DtVOw3VsHnZcOnZjJOGf4z3WXhTEhyg9U8bZ2LGDS8i GjTjRcF8Xh1MmWPC0S4EPjUa77LzhSsWfZOw9ezKxSqYYvZ9mOfZyYmRst1YEtH/3/S/ fTEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:26:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Hmm, I think a good custom driver makes a difference, and I think that's why RME interfaces tend to have very low latency. Maybe the other manufacturers have caught up. I've got to say that my Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 has excellent latency. The other interfaces I've used in the past have been more disappointing, but maybe things are a lot better now. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Latency is a function of the software driver, and the size of the buffer > selected. Most of the available converters use a similar, if not identical > chipset. Because of this, features are more important than anything in any > current device, since the audio quality is typically a non issue. > > At 1:29 AM +0200 10/11/12, Torben Scharling wrote: > > My two cents/long dribble is, that the one I've been looking at getting, as > an upgrade to my M-audio FW1814 (mostly because I need better latency) is > the RME Fireface UFX. However, I've read much good about the MOTU > Ultralite-mk3 Hybrid. Particularly related to this topic, I've read that the > RME's work well especially on PC's, where MOTU should worl especially well > on mac's - so I'm leaning towards getting the MOTU ultralite mk3 instead of > the RME UFX, because it's more than half the price and should have as low > latency or even lower, and have super stable mac drivers, whereas RME should > be more of a PC thing. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's > down to small geeky things, as I'm sure RME should work really well on MAC's > also, I just don't wanna take any chances with my next soundcard purchase, > so I wanna get what's most suited and tailormade for mac's as possible :) > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 00:55:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C586718347C; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=lqdGc5RDHOtvjry5QOUa34X3Q1XeYPBO4Dfpvc47/WX+88FbfFjEwJkAmfBjzLSz; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:55:14 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Interface recommendations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79950daa988f28e3a4737461b7ac145e32350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:55:44 +0000 (UTC) None of the available convertors have an acceptable latency when the buffer is set to a reasonable size (as is required when playing multiple audio streams and using DSP), so many of them feature "zero latency monitoring" via an analog "dry" path or an direct connection within the convertor. MOTU, Line 6, Tascam and others have this feature. >Hmm, I think a good custom driver makes a difference, and I think >that's why RME interfaces tend to have very low latency. Maybe the >other manufacturers have caught up. I've got to say that my Focusrite >Scarlett 2i2 has excellent latency. The other interfaces I've used in >the past have been more disappointing, but maybe things are a lot >better now. > >On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: >> Latency is a function of the software driver, and the size of the buffer >> selected. Most of the available converters use a similar, if not identical >> chipset. Because of this, features are more important than anything in any >> current device, since the audio quality is typically a non issue. >> >> At 1:29 AM +0200 10/11/12, Torben Scharling wrote: >> >> My two cents/long dribble is, that the one I've been looking at getting, as >> an upgrade to my M-audio FW1814 (mostly because I need better latency) is >> the RME Fireface UFX. However, I've read much good about the MOTU >> Ultralite-mk3 Hybrid. Particularly related to this topic, I've read that the >> RME's work well especially on PC's, where MOTU should worl especially well >> on mac's - so I'm leaning towards getting the MOTU ultralite mk3 instead of >> the RME UFX, because it's more than half the price and should have as low >> latency or even lower, and have super stable mac drivers, whereas RME should >> be more of a PC thing. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's >> down to small geeky things, as I'm sure RME should work really well on MAC's >> also, I just don't wanna take any chances with my next soundcard purchase, >> so I wanna get what's most suited and tailormade for mac's as possible :) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >> >> http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > > >-- >Art Simon >simart@gmail.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 05:41:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09CC8183478; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=kmcmBwBhgVpKvJv2DWiV+tYTx0WL98mU/fOqNfWfeOA=; b=Oq4LOHkY7bqXwO6+Z3xtz4uBuHKp4bKKwtwILqB1WWorXB5iwZeQTRFYFuw2F80Q+4 P8yq12uZSpLvBF/qKeI09+tU/bvlWRk2JvJgH+NEHiNmSUUzSmIYptxAujaEWHDOkSQk lDOCfG7cw7sHfEBIFKBJupWlAuV+ap4NwNayQ+dWA3/WXmsf0Bg8TpqDW5E3ogv4TDTE cSOUc4Kidwj3BhKgWap91LYxY1EZ+5IjwxTHpByMo9NAC6mnunrdcBKTw+9m/b1NKWNv DTWHKhePCFxcbCwYm4S1SB9csmBV1Rm2EiQLCAeDeH023gcHCjzT2R1wtp7n9NxFuLX4 8A9g== References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:41:27 +0200 Message-ID: <1567573791970550552@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 11 Oct 2012, at 01:55, Ted Killian wrote: > Nobody who has ever seen me perform would ever dream of going very far out of their way to see me do so a 2nd time. Maybe not, but some of us would travel huge distances to witness that first time!!!! Pssst... I get what the EVs do that are used for hardware... but what of all those that are assigned to the laptop Ted? Elucidate if you would? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 06:44:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85F82183474; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 292314.25651.bm@omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349937862; bh=do5NY/1l3rzxwkn+vwzwZp8USVpH6DONaEYzxrtB0IU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kkcmQOvO16srBBXRZPW+QY5/pnIDu/n15WvgcNBQeTLyb4cfd1gSKY8+YcayOGKBJTjJ0iC/7iBsBs5RyXCwuhOxQ1Xz/Pe8z7xTHGOMGERHEtTNMM54fVaZYdva581JEhVgyJist5j6TzkMGcslGx0OINjzI8XgLHx7+nkgu+U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hdrak+/Feb502myN+oXzf2qWJlKQJYBG9zx+eoTdxjfAY6EuQN6QJk/1kSPc4nrPDB8TKCEkAQMi+TLSZhwVonn0JdzFxJzdZ+mCVmCph2gqj/3vVNRlUXRPIKS2KABSoChkxPaFjq3+rdDFrxSUMl+/ooHg+MFrUm0Vtb48NLY=; X-YMail-OSG: Xn6_ut0VM1ns6.7xvcCaPYkM6EbGFvT3L5R8C4qZGZY2nso WmDVAYu0v87zt19BwkPIfMh8mK78XmJlG4n8bdcd3UsWQNbJKUAZuam99L6S GxC.1CeFg9ggnlFkfdR.2E_zWpIpH5kE3hwWM_bVcmRDoKBPntqB2Zm7tNt0 QRD7RINW06dbgnxOkLXktE3HC60PR.YRQ9bhrL.8UfSOSzgWY992oasZ7J.Z JJGcCAabm0TnAcHh566.V2RDJS51yOCUgJZo2NH2VAdcHGjzR1g4w2jedRfR 31Ir74.waFU6E6.Z2qeTH5.efXb2apXbm6.VtXxyW0K4YQUNnIFNmJump28Z ENpUZsSPewUsLVlaIkw9mdUAq3UhcHe19pxNzfJZjaFTeaKh24hs2ZefycrL hoOreHWwPT0shf9ufLvvrQOs7RXmQzonPp.pAvrBvHDdsE9_Zh4LRHJoh2It HHlSIPX4_lkubbzT5htGTvbXLPDtXdn_c74Z0H8GVxWJcBoJUnJ9BpmxgVsH egEdAHL5WU2geS13h1sdooBMfaCegvDt4xd4zZAHRtjIl_YoatrH9yI2qi3g 14Midb0rUBGn43J6UKggVnNht9sJ5lm9aBj.XJM3h_luMXnrHZoDdqA-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SWQgZGl0Y2ggdGhlIFBDIGZpcnN0LGl2ZSBuZXZlciBoYWQgYSBwcm9ibGVtIHdpdGggbXkgUk1FIEZXIDgwMCBvciA0MDAhCgrCoApodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm15c3BhY2UuY29tL2x1aXNhbmd1bG9jb20KCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogUm9iIENhbXBiZWxsIDxyY2NAcG9ib3guY29tPgpUbzogTG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20gClNlbnQ6IFR1ZXNkYXksIE9jdG9iZXIgOSwgMjAxMiA2OjA3IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBSTUUgZHJpdmVyIGIBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <50744BA9.3090802@pobox.com> Message-ID: <1349937861.10024.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Luis Angulo Reply-To: Luis Angulo Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <50744BA9.3090802@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="506312955-113288878-1349937861=:10024" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:44:23 +0000 (UTC) --506312955-113288878-1349937861=:10024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Id ditch the PC first,ive never had a problem with my RME FW 800 or 400!=0A= =0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A_____________________= ___________=0A From: Rob Campbell =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com =0ASent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: R= ME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations )=0A =0A=0AI don't think t= he RME drivers are that wonderful.=A0 Audio is great yes, but they wreck ha= voc frequently on my system.=0A=0AI have an RME Fireface 800 connected via = Firewire to my Windows 7 64 bit system, and I get blue screen crashes fairl= y often when I turn off the Fireface after having used an ASIO audio applic= ation that is still running.=0A=0AI was told by RME I need to 'detach' the = Fireface device first, which I think is a lame answer, other devices don't = crash my system if I forget to do that.=A0 And yes that helps usually altho= ugh its a pain to try to remember, but I STILL have gotten crashes after do= ing that.=A0 Bad driver coding, obviously an 'unhandled exception' in code= speak.=0A=0AI plan to ditch RME for that reason, I've waited two years now= and the most recent driver update didn't fix it.=0A=0ARob --506312955-113288878-1349937861=:10024 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Id ditch t= he PC first,ive never had a problem with my RME FW 800 or 400!
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http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
From: Rob Campb= ell <rcc@pobox.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen = ( Interface recommendations )


I don't think the = RME drivers are that wonderful.  Audio is great yes, but they wreck havoc frequently = on my system.

I have an RME Fireface 800 connected via Firewire to m= y Windows 7 64 bit system, and I get blue screen crashes fairly often when = I turn off the Fireface after having used an ASIO audio application that is= still running.

I was told by RME I need to 'detach' the Fireface de= vice first, which I think is a lame answer, other devices don't crash my sy= stem if I forget to do that.  And yes that helps usually although its = a pain to try to remember, but I STILL have gotten crashes after doing that= .  Bad driver coding, obviously an 'unhandled exception' in code spea= k.

I plan to ditch RME for that reason, I've waited two years now an= d the most recent driver update didn't fix it.

Rob



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--506312955-113288878-1349937861=:10024-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 07:49:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53EE1183486; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=vSwSZPfj6SjnL6eEERj2HCKbuftTOFZQACNUGQbpqC0=; b=IDBsgBzgneg/i9RKg8GA+epfPIBkYEPA6Ovp33Do6FrCwp76r1eHalW473Ks43D/hh hGf59ThI9qouU5l0tWK0jausxW4Jp/IRmxU3R/xkrtAgeWDHWwO6J6JhqVzQpIUgavXg SkGVZmvozfeOtKs26pc91pRSWsmWSwBcAr77u1Ri77RQqZl7IiJQwIrZYCq9R8HQOAdi PkEwNjzoU1oXzFv5/1UGxniO+1VXjF18dFw1LNq+FUEsBSY3iDCZgkrcetBgf8emBFe2 QPKA3B4JoFljq6wUkMK545AceiYkprL9PLJlJ2xCau8IWSyxweV/GkfArnMUs12H80pH +JEg== Message-ID: <50767A0D.9070004@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:49:33 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Interface recommendations References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070906070005040508040204" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:49:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070906070005040508040204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 11.10.2012 02:20, schrieb Charles Zwicky: > Re: Interface recommendations > Latency is a function of the software driver, and the size of the > buffer selected. Most of the available converters use a similar, if > not identical chipset. Because of this, features are more important > than anything in any current device, since the audio quality is > typically a non issue. It is also to a large degree a function of the computer's hardware and lowlevel software, and, to a lesser degree, of the interface's interface *g* hardware (i.e. the actual IEEE1394 or other connection), that's why RME uses their own interface chipset. > None of the available convertors have an acceptable latency when the buffer is set to a reasonable size (as is required > when playing multiple audio streams and using DSP), so many of them feature "zero latency monitoring" via an analog > "dry" path or an direct connection within the convertor. MOTU, Line 6, Tascam and others have this feature. The first question would be "what is acceptable latency?", and also one already discussed a lot here - generally, people who are used to playing instruments with big latency (e.g. large pipe organs) are more used to latency than, say, turntablists, and classical symphonic players more than singer-songwriters. Generally, if the latency ist lower than the time it takes sound to travel from your instrument to your ear, you can compensate for the latency by simply wearing headphones instead. Example: a guitar amp roughly 3 metres away from you -> 10ms latency -> 5ms "per direction" of the interface, which is perfectly doable. (http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/about-latency/) I am not familiar with interfaces with an analogue dry path, but yes, many allow for a "digital dry path" (i.e. converter->DSP->converter), which is oviously not zero latency, but much lower one. However, you can't use that the moment you use any insert-kind effect (such as an amp modeler) on the computer... However, back to the question "can you get acceptable latency when the buffer is set to a reasonable size"? One experiment: http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/a-tatowierte-katz-another-twitterchords-tune/ Computer picked (among other things) for low latency, hardware RME HDSP (multiface), computer OS optimized (among other things) for latency. Running Cubase, recording 17 audio tracks, running The Grand 3, computer in silent mode (reduce CPU power to not use the fan). Works with 0.7ms latency... Rainer --------------070906070005040508040204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Am 11.10.2012 02:20, schrieb Charles Zwicky:
Re: Interface recommendations
Latency is a function of the software driver, and the size of the buffer selected.  Most of the available converters use a similar, if not identical chipset.  Because of this, features are more important than anything in any current device, since the audio quality is typically a non issue.

It is also to a large degree a function of the computer's hardware and lowlevel software, and, to a lesser degree, of the interface's interface *g* hardware (i.e. the actual IEEE1394 or other connection), that's why RME uses their own interface chipset.

> None of the available convertors have  an acceptable latency when the buffer is set to a reasonable  size (as is required
> when playing multiple audio streams and using DSP), so many of them feature "zero latency monitoring" via an  analog
> "dry" path or an direct connection within the convertor. MOTU, Line 6, Tascam and others have this feature.

The first question would be "what is acceptable latency?", and also one already discussed a lot here - generally, people who are used to playing instruments with big latency (e.g. large pipe organs) are more used to latency than, say, turntablists, and classical symphonic players more than singer-songwriters.
Generally, if the latency ist lower than the time it takes sound to travel from your instrument to your ear, you can compensate for the latency by simply wearing headphones instead. Example: a guitar amp roughly 3 metres away from you -> 10ms latency -> 5ms "per direction" of the interface, which is perfectly doable.
(http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/about-latency/)

I am not familiar with interfaces with an analogue dry path, but yes, many allow for a "digital dry path" (i.e. converter->DSP->converter), which is oviously not zero latency, but much lower one. However, you can't use that the moment you use any insert-kind effect (such as an amp modeler) on the computer...

However, back to the question "can you get acceptable latency when the buffer is set to a reasonable size"?
One experiment: http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/a-tatowierte-katz-another-twitterchords-tune/

Computer picked (among other things) for low latency, hardware RME HDSP (multiface), computer OS optimized (among other things) for latency. Running Cubase, recording 17 audio tracks, running The Grand 3, computer in silent mode (reduce CPU power to not use the fan). Works with 0.7ms latency...

             Rainer


--------------070906070005040508040204-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 09:01:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED4A9183486; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 304 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:01:18 UTC From: Matteo Giudici Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-39-123900184 Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:56:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1349937861.10024.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <50744BA9.3090802@pobox.com> <1349937861.10024.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:01:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-39-123900184 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've a RME fireface 800 with a MacBookPro and I've never had any = problem. Il giorno 11/ott/2012, alle ore 08.44, Luis Angulo ha scritto: > Id ditch the PC first,ive never had a problem with my RME FW 800 or = 400! > =20 > http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > From: Rob Campbell > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 > Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:07 PM > Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) >=20 >=20 > I don't think the RME drivers are that wonderful. Audio is great yes, = but they wreck havoc frequently on my system. >=20 > I have an RME Fireface 800 connected via Firewire to my Windows 7 64 = bit system, and I get blue screen crashes fairly often when I turn off = the Fireface after having used an ASIO audio application that is still = running. >=20 > I was told by RME I need to 'detach' the Fireface device first, which = I think is a lame answer, other devices don't crash my system if I = forget to do that. And yes that helps usually although its a pain to = try to remember, but I STILL have gotten crashes after doing that. Bad = driver coding, obviously an 'unhandled exception' in code speak. >=20 > I plan to ditch RME for that reason, I've waited two years now and the = most recent driver update didn't fix it. >=20 > Rob >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-39-123900184 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I've = a RME fireface 800 with a MacBookPro and I've never had any = problem.

Il giorno 11/ott/2012, alle ore 08.44, Luis = Angulo ha scritto:

Id ditch the PC = first,ive never had a problem with my RME FW 800 or = 400!
 
=
From: Rob Campbell <rcc@pobox.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: RME driver = bluescreen ( Interface recommendations )


I = don't think the RME drivers are that wonderful.  Audio is great yes, but they wreck havoc = frequently on my system.

I have an RME Fireface 800 connected via = Firewire to my Windows 7 64 bit system, and I get blue screen crashes = fairly often when I turn off the Fireface after having used an ASIO = audio application that is still running.

I was told by RME I need = to 'detach' the Fireface device first, which I think is a lame answer, = other devices don't crash my system if I forget to do that.  And = yes that helps usually although its a pain to try to remember, but I = STILL have gotten crashes after doing that.  Bad driver coding, = obviously an 'unhandled exception' in code speak.

I plan to ditch = RME for that reason, I've waited two years now and the most recent = driver update didn't fix it.

Rob



=

= --Apple-Mail-39-123900184-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 10:37:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AF52183489; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eHWJN6nbbhSwO6R5O4ctU5YNYR/EVsdScn2CYoNGWnA=; b=yRjxoz8bWS5fVz8lUxFXYoEZuyMB2ylXiStw5H/a1pEe1WbXHDgxZ9AwEZhsPyV3SH f5zPpplBgNoI+wmPJ0/k93hrNZo2JprpjYOWcsXs83DE+w15uPAPYKxoUw+N4jXGriUc S+2eiBVBkfkvKTG954dQhO+7FgW2cfDDc83B/D06NqcajoymzXUeuA0oQJVOiDtTjzDB EwLI88fW2zDOq4P/F8d1YO3rX5TGnyzj4tgjMEA9qq6BF+zFRsXos3OrNQcXCIXaRQ9S Imu6h7Y7mD7atr83grbizqLQMROtPt75C2QRTgNlG401c81dT09DtHWKaLSfALa2tK9x 0x9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <93B7EB6D-334C-4421-B1C7-700DF1E70354@torbenscharling.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:37:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:37:53 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Ted Killian wrote: > It's a real tap-dance to be sure, 'cause I do actually use all 12 - though, if I recall, I do think I've now pared it down to 11. EV-5 expression pedals are great! I use up to four of them, depending on the gig. My MIDI pedal board - the Gordius Little Giant - transformes the EV-5 analog signal to MIDI. In the laptop I have several alternate rigs that all do different things upon my EV-5 pedalling. My concept is to keep all the controller stuff (EV-p pedals, MIDI pedal board, MIDI mini mixer) sending the same data and then I simply set up my software rigs to react differently to the incoming MIDI control data. This is the opposite to the traditional EDP concept, where the receiving looper needs particular data and you need to make adjustments in the controllers to what they shall send. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 12:07:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E4E4183482; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mb4MQilE9Lsn8AvtCP3SOZP6mIQ8hVy1DRuMkDCfrTE=; b=Q4s6yg3h6qQL6GaUUacImBcxizV+tsBYauqtZjdlV4ZDh9Jz/VGmicUsNm4xFca6to EQaC3/uEJWaFdwBPiVC5dNIwqYV4/uEUtSv2sejCybP247TPyQWos+6omQPXyJVsrmnU XGVXjHo1nKHPPIv9k/YJ3+NV2ih03gnvpNlWlv8U0Lt2joOig6Xx+gPeL6es+rJjR0UT h2mHxHmJYjwhOknRWxkBym5per7zCNoy2JLh3KUEb2VPreWJF0unDVA1Ec/KKNaFyEbs NCUdrKKFJVF7wsVzaSeCvo5x/zyxIhmdO+cJA2XTj2zLeaedChO7zYTDjpfKvMW+oKzW B/Iw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <50767A0D.9070004@googlemail.com> References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> <50767A0D.9070004@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:07:41 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uuPiBJp20KdrpsR8yrbW1bn9YSs Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: daniel To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fb41409545704cbc76bfa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:07:42 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54fb41409545704cbc76bfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use an ART TubeFire and it's been great! Also the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 is super sweet On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Am 11.10.2012 02:20, schrieb Charles Zwicky: > > Latency is a function of the software driver, and the size of the buffer > selected. Most of the available converters use a similar, if not identical > chipset. Because of this, features are more important than anything in any > current device, since the audio quality is typically a non issue. > > > It is also to a large degree a function of the computer's hardware and > lowlevel software, and, to a lesser degree, of the interface's interface > *g* hardware (i.e. the actual IEEE1394 or other connection), that's why RME > uses their own interface chipset. > > > None of the available convertors have an acceptable latency when the > buffer is set to a reasonable size (as is required > > when playing multiple audio streams and using DSP), so many of them > feature "zero latency monitoring" via an analog > > "dry" path or an direct connection within the convertor. MOTU, Line 6, > Tascam and others have this feature. > > The first question would be "what is acceptable latency?", and also one > already discussed a lot here - generally, people who are used to playing > instruments with big latency (e.g. large pipe organs) are more used to > latency than, say, turntablists, and classical symphonic players more than > singer-songwriters. > Generally, if the latency ist lower than the time it takes sound to travel > from your instrument to your ear, you can compensate for the latency by > simply wearing headphones instead. Example: a guitar amp roughly 3 metres > away from you -> 10ms latency -> 5ms "per direction" of the interface, > which is perfectly doable. > (http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/about-latency/) > > I am not familiar with interfaces with an analogue dry path, but yes, many > allow for a "digital dry path" (i.e. converter->DSP->converter), which is > oviously not zero latency, but much lower one. However, you can't use that > the moment you use any insert-kind effect (such as an amp modeler) on the > computer... > > However, back to the question "can you get acceptable latency when the > buffer is set to a reasonable size"? > One experiment: > http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/a-tatowierte-katz-another-twitterchords-tune/ > > Computer picked (among other things) for low latency, hardware RME HDSP > (multiface), computer OS optimized (among other things) for latency. > Running Cubase, recording 17 audio tracks, running The Grand 3, computer in > silent mode (reduce CPU power to not use the fan). Works with 0.7ms > latency... > > Rainer > > > --bcaec54fb41409545704cbc76bfa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use an ART TubeFire and it's been great! Also the Focusrite Saffire P= ro 40 is super sweet =A0

On Thursday, October 11, 2012,= Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Am 11.10.2012 02:20, schrieb Charles Zwicky:
=20 =20
Latency is a function of the software driver, and the size of the buffer selected.=A0 Most of the available converters use a similar, if not identical chipset.=A0 Because of this, features are more important than anything in any current device, since the audio quality is typically a non issue.

It is also to a large degree a function of the computer's hardware and lowlevel software, and, to a lesser degree, of the interface's interface *g* hardware (i.e. the actual IEEE1394 or other connection), that's why RME uses their own interface chipset.

> None of the available convertors have=A0 an acceptable latency when the buffer is set to a reasonable=A0 size (as is required
> when playing multiple audio streams and using DSP), so many of them feature "zero latency monitoring" via an=A0 analog
> "dry" path or an direct connection within the convertor.= MOTU, Line 6, Tascam and others have this feature.

The first question would be "what is acceptable latency?", an= d also one already discussed a lot here - generally, people who are used to playing instruments with big latency (e.g. large pipe organs) are more used to latency than, say, turntablists, and classical symphonic players more than singer-songwriters.
Generally, if the latency ist lower than the time it takes sound to travel from your instrument to your ear, you can compensate for the latency by simply wearing headphones instead. Example: a guitar amp roughly 3 metres away from you -> 10ms latency -> 5ms "per direction" of the interface, which is perfectly doable.
(http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/about-latency/)

I am not familiar with interfaces with an analogue dry path, but yes, many allow for a "digital dry path" (i.e. converter->DSP->converter), which is oviously not zero latency, but much lower one. However, you can't use that the moment you use any insert-kind effect (such as an amp modeler) on the computer...

However, back to the question "can you get acceptable latency when the buffer is set to a reasonable size"?
One experiment: http://moins= ound.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/a-tatowierte-katz-another-twitterchords-tune/=

Computer picked (among other things) for low latency, hardware RME HDSP (multiface), computer OS optimized (among other things) for latency. Running Cubase, recording 17 audio tracks, running The Grand 3, computer in silent mode (reduce CPU power to not use the fan). Works with 0.7ms latency...

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Rainer


--bcaec54fb41409545704cbc76bfa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 12:59:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62676183489; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=cghix3iBV2QouPEzWE00lpG4OWK7pNu+ycJutg+41TM=; b=ieOLDnDDGclsn+IwpAEFF1100TUloePJ7zzf528yOcrrSV6yvg3Ot3hPxp38UnTqS7 0HbjBzSNvrluDrTTT5hGLtuy9EQpCZcKCq0ZjZKa1H1rsYbVVdGHvkS6WTxkEBhF7w8O xQ0vDnTS1j5202dI4caGhIdpm05N8BQMGfPl6hiAlzSZNB6GRWWvAa+7YI+17VS3AOUm K/VX4r3Lfm/AjpcQAtlQ/YH/FM0bNgrgHHYiVRZGVF/94nwG8WbOttJVREaV1g4VGbMJ 0Hq5VOFHWxlKvx/gtWV0/5n46V0avAXOlcGlvcPLWRwUz/d1UbX4JvFwBpuo8M6dWbcQ o8iA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Philip In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 21:59:13 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2283F239-FE63-4FE1-BA7A-70D3B7E9898F@gmail.com> References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> <50767A0D.9070004@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:59:18 +0000 (UTC) The ZED R16 arrived a few minutes ago. It's in beautiful condition and = it's huge--it takes up half of my synth desk. It's got so many knobs and = features that it'll take me a while to learn my way around = it--especially considering that my next days off are two weeks away. = Then I'll get to see how it gets along with Logic and my computers. I appreciate all of the great information you guys have taken the time = to provide here. Based on your comments, if this doesn't work out, I'll = be looking at something by RME or Focusrite.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 13:11:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76CD918348C; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QdjH3NtWofMTxMoDOsB9fZpK3DG8lysylTeIu8zCeYU=; b=ljiJ1OoeXTmKmBOL7HJnDdDBa2FUDACLEhQmGcCThIU68DvDybdg34pCKOcM5XpzsX lZ9m/BRF73WcYJAam5K/kV4srBNd62sFRoCH3LNP161THjheTGrcPcvL551zQa48btXG 3O7hzeJpOQsou4xsOqHRrBeR7XDSS7XIlra1MrQ93LRPx5//wPRnj2E4p6siEIVvKexN oakPSQMiYGrHSvoQSLowyA1MSOiz36eSyU0OxkSWDAXt6jCDuitrLP410t08vVV9qmnr SPph/k7BqVdi45e2F1Or5IxR9Gv4CtWPF8FXNZDJtoN6eC1XPYJXs0rTvzoXF5NH4BLp M2AA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2283F239-FE63-4FE1-BA7A-70D3B7E9898F@gmail.com> References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <3E42320B-9705-4370-91D5-58FDA6784CE6@gmail.com> <50767A0D.9070004@googlemail.com> <2283F239-FE63-4FE1-BA7A-70D3B7E9898F@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:11:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interface recommendations From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:11:42 +0000 (UTC) That looks like a bargain at $800... let us know how it works out for you. Sylvain On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Philip wrote: > The ZED R16 arrived a few minutes ago. It's in beautiful condition and it= 's huge--it takes up half of my synth desk. It's got so many knobs and feat= ures that it'll take me a while to learn my way around it--especially consi= dering that my next days off are two weeks away. Then I'll get to see how i= t gets along with Logic and my computers. > > I appreciate all of the great information you guys have taken the time to= provide here. Based on your comments, if this doesn't work out, I'll be lo= oking at something by RME or Focusrite. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 13:26:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B11C183491; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 304 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:26:13 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2eca1ef9-38ba-4b0b-8081-6fef192ed279_" X-Originating-IP: [173.73.60.151] From: "T.A. Zook" To: Subject: RE: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:21:07 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <792477D6-4D47-4351-B4F1-FC2578ED2DEA@att.net> <5073E6BB.7060206@googlemail.com> <50744BA9.3090802@pobox.com> <1349937861.10024.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2012 13:21:08.0641 (UTC) FILETIME=[46710910:01CDA7B3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:26:14 +0000 (UTC) --_2eca1ef9-38ba-4b0b-8081-6fef192ed279_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have an RME FF 800 w/ a MacBook Pro and I've never had any problems = at all. . . . From: ligeti@alice.it Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) Date: Thu=2C 11 Oct 2012 10:56:11 +0200 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I've a RME fireface 800 with a MacBookPro and I've never had any problem. Il giorno 11/ott/2012=2C alle ore 08.44=2C Luis Angulo ha scritto:Id ditch = the PC first=2Cive never had a problem with my RME FW 800 or 400! http://ww= w.myspace.com/luisangulocom From: Rob Campbell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday=2C October 9=2C 2012 6:07 PM Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations ) =20 I don't think the RME drivers are that wonderful. Audio is great yes=2C but they wreck havoc frequently on = my system. I have an RME Fireface 800 connected via Firewire to my Windows 7 64 bit sy= stem=2C and I get blue screen crashes fairly often when I turn off the Fire= face after having used an ASIO audio application that is still running. I was told by RME I need to 'detach' the Fireface device first=2C which I t= hink is a lame answer=2C other devices don't crash my system if I forget to= do that. And yes that helps usually although its a pain to try to remembe= r=2C but I STILL have gotten crashes after doing that. Bad driver coding= =2C obviously an 'unhandled exception' in code speak. I plan to ditch RME for that reason=2C I've waited two years now and the mo= st recent driver update didn't fix it. Rob =20 = --_2eca1ef9-38ba-4b0b-8081-6fef192ed279_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also have an RME FF 800 w/ a MacBook Pro and I've never had any problems = at all. . . .

From: ligeti@alice.it
Subject: Re: RME driver bluescreen ( = Interface recommendations )
Date: Thu=2C 11 Oct 2012 10:56:11 +0200
C= C: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com

I've a RME fireface 800 with a MacBookPro and I've never had = any problem.

Il giorno 11/ott/2012=2C alle ore 08.44=2C L= uis Angulo ha scritto:

Id ditch the PC first=2Cive never had= a problem with my RME FW 800 or 400!
 =3B
<= a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">http://ww= w.myspace.com/luisangulocom
<= b>From: Rob Campbell <=3B= rcc@pobox.com>=3B
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday=2C October 9=2C 201= 2 6:07 PM
Subject: R= e: RME driver bluescreen ( Interface recommendations )
<= br>
I don't think the RME drivers are that wonderful. =3B Audio is great yes=2C but they wreck havoc frequen= tly on my system.

I have an RME Fireface 800 connected via Firewire = to my Windows 7 64 bit system=2C and I get blue screen crashes fairly often= when I turn off the Fireface after having used an ASIO audio application t= hat is still running.

I was told by RME I need to 'detach' the Firef= ace device first=2C which I think is a lame answer=2C other devices don't c= rash my system if I forget to do that. =3B And yes that helps usually a= lthough its a pain to try to remember=2C but I STILL have gotten crashes af= ter doing that. =3B Bad driver coding=2C obviously an 'unhandled excep= tion' in code speak.

I plan to ditch RME for that reason=2C I've wai= ted two years now and the most recent driver update didn't fix it.

R= ob




=
= --_2eca1ef9-38ba-4b0b-8081-6fef192ed279_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 15:34:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E431183495; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5076E70F.7080708@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:34:39 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_AlOF.A.HdH.ScudQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:34:42 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Into the Matrix." You will also hear music by Ian Boddy who will play at The Gatherings this Saturday as well as music by Genetique who will play at the the Soundscapes Concert Series on December 2. The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 16:21:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6ECC183490; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19-150631939 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:21:42 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0NgH-B.A.6O.gIvdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:21:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19-150631939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I think that my life will be complete the day I get to hear and see > Ted Killian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE expression pedals in > there =85 :-) =85 Ted I've got expression pedal envy:-0) Bill ps, this is my rig, which gets occasionally augmented by a Zvex box =20= o rock or a zendrive pedal, and a flashback delay, and re arranged for =20= ergonomic considerations. when I get a free moment I'll post some of =20 my other pedal board that sports my pedals for more conventional gigs, =20= and now has a Looperlative LP-2 on it. I'm sorry i haven't been very =20 responsive to inquiries about the LP-2, I did the lion's share of the =20= beta testing down the home stretch and at the same time I've been =20 working like a mad man, gigging and teaching, finishing up the final =20 details of my new CD and just about to release a collaboration with =20 Erdem Helvacioglu, so time has been scarce . Like Rick said its =20 working great, Bob is beginning to ship them, and both he and I will =20 be getting about the business of making some tutorial vids once Y2K12 =20= is over. = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDoUv4xXGFGE&list=3DUUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93i= vw&index=3D9&feature=3Dplpp_video= --Apple-Mail-19-150631939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I = think that my life will be complete the day I get to hear and see
Ted = Killian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE expression pedals in
there = =85 :-) =85


Ted I've got = expression pedal = envy:-0)
 Bill


 ps, = this is my rig, which gets occasionally augmented by a Zvex box o rock = or a zendrive pedal, and a flashback delay, and re arranged for = ergonomic considerations. when I get a free moment I'll post some of my = other pedal board that sports my pedals for more conventional gigs, and = now has a Looperlative LP-2 on it. I'm sorry i haven't been very = responsive to inquiries about the LP-2, I did the lion's share  of = the beta testing down the home stretch and  at the same time I've = been working like a mad man, gigging and teaching, finishing up the = final details  of my new CD and just about to release a = collaboration with Erdem Helvacioglu, so time has been scarce . Like = Rick said its working great, Bob is beginning to ship them, and both he = and I will be getting about the business of making some tutorial vids = once Y2K12 is over.
= --Apple-Mail-19-150631939-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 16:31:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78313183495; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-20-151222922 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Line 6 M-9 mods Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:31:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <1QcDRC.A.Db.sRvdQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:31:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-20-151222922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just had both an audio upgrade and switch upgrade done by this guy. http://jhv3.squarespace.com/m9-mods/ I cannot say enough good things about his work. I had been seriously considering moving on to a more audiophile but less versatile delay like the strymon time line before having these mods done but now I see no need. The signal path is cleaner and more transparent, the noise floor is reduced, it now has variable output gain, the algorithms have less digital grit and of course the switches are hardwired, smooth as silk and accurate. i will have the same thing done to my M-5 eventually. One thing it did not cure was the loop degradation that Jeff Duke described when going in to reverse while in overdub mode at a point other than the beginning or ending of the loop, that i believe is a software issue they never fixed. Bill --Apple-Mail-20-151222922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just had both an audio = upgrade and switch upgrade done by this guy. http://jhv3.squarespace.com/= m9-mods/
 I cannot say enough good things about his = work. I had been seriously considering moving on to a more audiophile = but less versatile  delay like the strymon time line  before = having these mods done but now I see no need. The signal path is cleaner = and more transparent, the noise floor is reduced, it now has variable = output gain, the algorithms have less digital grit and of course the = switches are hardwired, smooth as silk and accurate. i will have the = same thing done to my M-5 eventually. One thing it did not cure was the = loop degradation  that Jeff Duke described when going in to reverse =  while in overdub mode at a point other than the beginning or = ending of the loop, that i believe is a software issue they never = fixed.
 Bill


= --Apple-Mail-20-151222922-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:10:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08545183495; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 550 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:10:15 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al0HACL6dlAyaBQ1/2dsb2JhbABEjh6xN4MpAQEEOAJPC0ZXiB2mD5N7jkaCQWADiFiSd41Z X-Originating-IP: [50.104.20.53] X-Previous-IP: 50.104.20.53 Message-Id: <8907D60A-8B9C-44A6-9EA1-DFC94DA55BFF@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Line 6 M-9 mods Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:01:09 -0500 References: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Looks/sounds great. Thanks for the heads up. I'm going to get my M9 modded for sure. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:52:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8B48183490; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=BV8hm2ISxedpVAG2CiwsIfPRgyyrJVWLWVk8pGIHq0g=; b=ulAAm0wk7MlRlaikodH1GYmykF0kWvJf+VI2hQJ4SasfdC6a7tRfnGtmFLHSGGLK3S a+9RloDO9KsOKuZcua/302dxvfmynf6jqsSCy98h0U0rhLqSVF1DgpvKVQBfGE9xfwHa 3Q2ct1C0El4sQ1r7p1rQznHcwFbAPDM5dRpw4f/aILbMTHWRwwDhn3sDafdPHKSKXrMj NpiUitwMqUup7wocJJtG/D1a3YPbefWIfGyKhn2oxaAXnnuZvLyQFBIQdkRhEwsFl7CF Fp0ituqlKhvYTDolrWlYL+wY3HfE41RuZQRN73rGZ5OjSIbVRbs8qt2R22h80cSRt+J0 XJRw== References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-58561B3E-745E-4CB2-AA78-F35F38914873 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0BA01230-3B02-4DFF-B020-96CC4EA22FEE@gmail.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A403) From: Theweg Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:47:30 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:52:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-58561B3E-745E-4CB2-AA78-F35F38914873 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good news! I have a 1st round LP2 and have some issues, I do like it but it h= as not made my pedalboard due to those issue. Sent from my iPad On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:21 PM, William Walker wrote:= >> I think that my life will be complete the day I get to hear and see >> Ted Killian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE expression pedals in >> there =E2=80=A6 :-) =E2=80=A6 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ted I've got expression pedal envy:-0) > Bill >=20 >=20 > ps, this is my rig, which gets occasionally augmented by a Zvex box o roc= k or a zendrive pedal, and a flashback delay, and re arranged for ergonomic c= onsiderations. when I get a free moment I'll post some of my other pedal boa= rd that sports my pedals for more conventional gigs, and now has a Looperlat= ive LP-2 on it. I'm sorry i haven't been very responsive to inquiries about t= he LP-2, I did the lion's share of the beta testing down the home stretch a= nd at the same time I've been working like a mad man, gigging and teaching,= finishing up the final details of my new CD and just about to release a co= llaboration with Erdem Helvacioglu, so time has been scarce . Like Rick said= its working great, Bob is beginning to ship them, and both he and I will be= getting about the business of making some tutorial vids once Y2K12 is over.= > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDoUv4xXGFGE&list=3DUUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93i= vw&index=3D9&feature=3Dplpp_video --Apple-Mail-58561B3E-745E-4CB2-AA78-F35F38914873 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good news! I have a 1st round LP2 and h= ave some issues, I do like it but it has not made my pedalboard due to those= issue.


Sent from my iPad

On Oct 11, 2012, a= t 12:21 PM, William Walker <bil= lwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

I think that my life will be complete the d= ay I get to hear and see
Ted Killian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE ex= pression pedals in
there =E2=80=A6 :-) =E2=80=A6
<= br>

Ted I've got expression pedal envy:-0)
 Bil= l


 ps, this is my rig, which ge= ts occasionally augmented by a Zvex box o rock or a zendrive pedal, and a fl= ashback delay, and re arranged for ergonomic considerations. when I get a fr= ee moment I'll post some of my other pedal board that sports my pedals for m= ore conventional gigs, and now has a Looperlative LP-2 on it. I'm sorry i ha= ven't been very responsive to inquiries about the LP-2, I did the lion's sha= re  of the beta testing down the home stretch and  at the same tim= e I've been working like a mad man, gigging and teaching, finishing up the f= inal details  of my new CD and just about to release a collaboration wi= th Erdem Helvacioglu, so time has been scarce . Like Rick said its working g= reat, Bob is beginning to ship them, and both he and I will be getting about= the business of making some tutorial vids once Y2K12 is over.
= --Apple-Mail-58561B3E-745E-4CB2-AA78-F35F38914873-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 18:13:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF246183493; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=13pJPmC9AmCBJy1hCwdOg3p3STiysDv5wt5rAJ8BG+Y=; b=SdDAujYew6ZbE9qvpE1wDLwyxGtqR4Fv1fPam6UjEeRzQ/eJ62Otb1Sddtl/IvIqHO qa4xEAOxTu/xSubB5Lb59cGk6SfCi1iIZk1W7f4n7EwniHK/nXQaR9kDKbw68h4mAd4L DDnrHJjAt62FuG5Q7mbDA3RZ8H9kLBzh8BvX7NiHe9URUcItJtkooxt2iqrcxtpQV9ql n1GUOK5sK3VTTDVLIIjul+0z/JoAhgZBU51AKendzFrVSrmnpxenWB2q4ekWNXQCl5KL it7ncAcpJcTX73rKWLT/vagn2aq1bEL4mhkLs/QBb9E6+1fGLJnnDYuEVErjp9w+SIXR MGeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> References: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:13:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line 6 M-9 mods From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04016c73571d7b04cbcc8848 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:13:49 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04016c73571d7b04cbcc8848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am going to get the audio and switch upgrade anyway. As far as the looper problem goes I guess not many people like to press reverse right after the second press of rec/play :) They did mark it as a bug but nothing was ever done about it. Other wise it works fine. Thanks for the review and also the video of your setup! Jeff On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:31 PM, William Walker wrote: > I just had both an audio upgrade and switch upgrade done by this guy. > http://jhv3.squarespace.com/m9-mods/ > I cannot say enough good things about his work. I had been seriously > considering moving on to a more audiophile but less versatile delay like > the strymon time line before having these mods done but now I see no need. > The signal path is cleaner and more transparent, the noise floor is > reduced, it now has variable output gain, the algorithms have less digital > grit and of course the switches are hardwired, smooth as silk and accurate. > i will have the same thing done to my M-5 eventually. One thing it did not > cure was the loop degradation that Jeff Duke described when going in to > reverse while in overdub mode at a point other than the beginning or > ending of the loop, that i believe is a software issue they never fixed. > Bill > > > --f46d04016c73571d7b04cbcc8848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am going to get the audio and switch upgrade anyway. As far as the looper= problem goes I guess not many people like to press reverse right after the= second press of rec/play :) They did mark it as a bug but nothing was ever= done about it. Other wise it works fine.

Thanks for the review and also the video of your setup!

Jeff
=
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:31 PM, William Wa= lker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
I j= ust had both an audio upgrade and switch upgrade done by this guy.=A0http://jhv3.sq= uarespace.com/m9-mods/
=A0I cannot say enough good things about his work. I had been seriousl= y considering moving on to a more audiophile but less versatile =A0delay li= ke the strymon time line =A0before having these mods done but now I see no = need. The signal path is cleaner and more transparent, the noise floor is r= educed, it now has variable output gain, the algorithms have less digital g= rit and of course the switches are hardwired, smooth as silk and accurate. = i will have the same thing done to my M-5 eventually. One thing it did not = cure was the loop degradation =A0that Jeff Duke described when going in to = reverse =A0while in overdub mode at a point other than the beginning or end= ing of the loop, that i believe is a software issue they never fixed.
=A0Bill



--f46d04016c73571d7b04cbcc8848-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 22:05:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECC6318348B; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:x-mailer; bh=DelPz1NVQ8+WkCl5mItBnHLfME1m8MGdaQdb2IEsZwE=; b=BE1D1l4azaMgoMSFFpNUofthfI/TJ/XsO4Mbb+DCC2E8nduxetP+3rDxtL/UEnNyHI cam+S8iHqjKm/RfuUij2kW1gzgTpjeA16YsXQIecHdz1aXlqg2hmU6GPE+FxG7inXJqX 7XTJ/28AYDQO7YbKehkdISKgxCclUDH6MKDPFn69NE3WjL4nJNEax3w0dK+ufJ6tJ1Wj grJMtYKU6nfKPh6DM6TS/mSR7yIZlfgpxacVtu2Rejwcowmkh9qX/8QCwy5X4pd2L+py mD2mMcuh+EwMSJZJvg9UgpLez2CPDgJnk9WuB0RbaTO2xdTgGIGeX2qod/jzLjEMTjYz RXuQ== From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2AF584F3-2476-44C7-AD50-D3C27004CAB7" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Line 6 M-9 mods Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:05:33 -0400 References: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:05:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_2AF584F3-2476-44C7-AD50-D3C27004CAB7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That makes me wish I never sold my m9. ----------------------------------------------- Todd Matthews http://www.facebook.com/loopbass http://twitter.com/toddmbass http://toddbass.com On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, William Walker = wrote: > I just had both an audio upgrade and switch upgrade done by this guy. = http://jhv3.squarespace.com/m9-mods/ > I cannot say enough good things about his work. I had been seriously = considering moving on to a more audiophile but less versatile delay = like the strymon time line before having these mods done but now I see = no need. The signal path is cleaner and more transparent, the noise = floor is reduced, it now has variable output gain, the algorithms have = less digital grit and of course the switches are hardwired, smooth as = silk and accurate. i will have the same thing done to my M-5 eventually. = One thing it did not cure was the loop degradation that Jeff Duke = described when going in to reverse while in overdub mode at a point = other than the beginning or ending of the loop, that i believe is a = software issue they never fixed. > Bill >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_2AF584F3-2476-44C7-AD50-D3C27004CAB7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii That = makes me wish I never sold my m9.<= /body> ---944809811-1136224005-1350502979=:29159-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 22:04:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B60E1183479; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=ukNNfTt87/XFk9IVEdSup6IhkClOKA0wv+4oSVHx58k=; b=aoaAckPKbG7Ow79cya8xJFiqoOtJhtPizpXegx3Ue5Lsg3bjWGOKSR6FbeMox4gyzS xzMDP5w6mx0uuszAn7xU6Dwb4tE3oSjhCON3Bw4fBlKft/rJI4dPgMlkMi6/81pRzhhG JbBnd4/FRGnjeFIC676f7+pz4+o0CCBbmEdHRhP7OAencWqwx/zwJWZSUOQW4gTJSze6 Qbn2b8gvIyNEbIx5f2+RfHPUPLWCTbceyPh2qjTGXIxavohGUKi1OmAdpj+qlG7VX+Yd HIxwopqPMlNbtEjoRaqgVXLOi34LkkMlhWfb7BXj5dgo4PPCrjrw3UJfn0gZ/gBtKOnU zLnA== From: Philip Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0302BD6A-F2BF-4E5D-89A2-859362C8FEE5" Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:04:10 +0900 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <75F4C170-AE4E-4821-B238-957A1FF2CEC0@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:04:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_0302BD6A-F2BF-4E5D-89A2-859362C8FEE5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 It doesn't get any easier. Just wait until you have a wife, kids, and = job clamoring for your attention. But it can be done.=20 P On Oct 18, 2012, at 3:22 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice = schedule between piano, live looping, producing and photography? it = feels impossible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How = can I? My looping and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want = to keep up my skill for both but its like i have no discipline... >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0302BD6A-F2BF-4E5D-89A2-859362C8FEE5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 It doesn't get any easier. Just wait until you have a wife, kids, and job clamoring for your attention.

But it can be done. 

P

On Oct 18, 2012, at 3:22 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote:

It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice schedule between piano, live looping, producing and photography? it feels impossible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How can I? My looping and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to keep up my skill for both but its like i have no discipline...


--Apple-Mail=_0302BD6A-F2BF-4E5D-89A2-859362C8FEE5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 22:14:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 826CC183477; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cd2ece31-325c-47e9-bcd9-aec8af5e61f8_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.252.62] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: Balancing out your practice Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 00:14:28 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2012 22:14:28.0785 (UTC) FILETIME=[C67E0210:01CDACB4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:14:30 +0000 (UTC) --_cd2ece31-325c-47e9-bcd9-aec8af5e61f8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you do all those things (which does not sound like I stay with the plays= tation till 4 in the night and then I wake up at 2pm and then I lose all my= day doing nothing)=2C I am not sure it is lack of discipline.Maybe you sho= uld just choose something instead of doing all those things=2C or just orga= nize better your time. But if you insiste with the discipline thing: I've never known anybody with= lack of discipline. I just knew lazy people and ignorant people.Lazy peopl= e know what they have to change but they don't.Ignorant lose time doing use= less things because they ignore what would be the most clever thing to do. If a part of you tend to go in a direction and you want to go in another di= rection you need an effort=2C little=2C but constant in time=2C to change t= his scheme. cheersDate: Wed=2C 17 Oct 2012 11:22:33 -0700 Subject: Balancing out your practice From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice schedu= le between piano=2C live looping=2C producing and photography? it feels imp= ossible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How can I? My loop= ing and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to keep up my ski= ll for both but its like i have no discipline... = --_cd2ece31-325c-47e9-bcd9-aec8af5e61f8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
if you do all those things (which does not sound like I stay with the = playstation till 4 in the night and then I wake up at 2pm and then I lose a= ll my day doing nothing)=2C I am not sure it is lack of discipline.
Maybe you should just choose something instead of doing all those things= =2C or just organize better your time.

But if you = insiste with the discipline thing: I've never known anybody with lack of di= scipline. I just knew lazy people and ignorant people.
Lazy peopl= e know what they have to change but they don't.
Ignorant lose tim= e doing useless things because they ignore what would be the most clever th= ing to do.

If a part of you tend to go in a direct= ion and you want to go in another direction you need an effort=2C little=2C= but constant in time=2C to change this scheme.

ch= eers
Date: Wed=2C 17 Oct 2012 11:22:33 -0700
Subject: Balancing out yo= ur practice
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com

It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent pr= actice schedule between piano=2C live looping=2C producing and photography?= it feels impossible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How c= an I? My looping and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to k= eep up my skill for both but its like i have no discipline...
= --_cd2ece31-325c-47e9-bcd9-aec8af5e61f8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 02:19:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF200183477; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_26eae7d2-2137-494c-925b-b937743794a3_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Balancing out your practice Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:19:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2012 02:19:44.0300 (UTC) FILETIME=[099F66C0:01CDACD7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:19:45 +0000 (UTC) --_26eae7d2-2137-494c-925b-b937743794a3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =93Discipline and concentration are a matter of being interested.=94 ~ Tom = Kite Date: Wed=2C 17 Oct 2012 11:22:33 -0700 Subject: Balancing out your practice From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I want to keep up my skill for both but its like i have no discipline... = --_26eae7d2-2137-494c-925b-b937743794a3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=93Discipline and concentration are a matter of being interested.=94 ~ Tom = Kite

Date: Wed=2C 17 Oct 2012 11:22:33 -070= 0
Subject: Balancing out your practice
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I want to keep up my skill for b= oth but its like i have no discipline...
<= /div>
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It's excellent.= =0A=0AI feel the switch upgrade is more needed than the audio upgrade. The = audio upgrade takes some getting used to. Some delays wont work the same, m= ostly the lofi and tube delay non through versions... They get more signal = from input and react differently than before, i.e. more distorted if you us= e the drive. But it wasn't a big deal to me to switch to the through versio= ns.=0A=0AWhile you're sending it in you might as well get both done. It doe= s sound better.=0ATeddy Kumpel=0Ahttp://teddyjam.com=0A=0AOn Oct 11, 2012, = at 12:31 PM, William Walker wrote:=0A=0A=0AI just = had both an audio upgrade and switch upgrade done by this guy.=A0http://jhv= 3.squarespace.com/m9-mods/=0A>=A0I cannot say enough good things about his = work. I had been seriously considering moving on to a more audiophile but l= ess versatile =A0delay like the strymon time line =A0before having these mo= ds done but now I see no need. The signal path is cleaner and more transpar= ent, the noise floor is reduced, it now has variable output gain, the algor= ithms have less digital grit and of course the switches are hardwired, smoo= th as silk and accurate. i will have the same thing done to my M-5 eventual= ly. One thing it did not cure was the loop degradation =A0that Jeff Duke de= scribed when going in to reverse =A0while in overdub mode at a point other = than the beginning or ending of the loop, that i believe is a software issu= e they never fixed.=0A>=A0Bill=0A>=0A>=0A> --506312955-1626846179-1350556607=:3476 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

thanx for the heads up guys, i just did the switch mod as= well and was about to do the audio mod,but i wanted to hear from you guys = first how different it will sound with the audio mod
Bill says is better,2 different opinions,i think ill  ju= st hold....;-)
 
http://www.myspace.com/lui= sangulocom
From: Teddyjam.com <teddy@teddyj= am.com>
To: "Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> =
Sent: Friday, October= 12, 2012 1:26 AM
Subject:= Re: Line 6 M-9 mods

I had it done too... It's excellent.

I feel the= switch upgrade is more needed than the audio upgrade. The audio upgrade ta= kes some getting used to. Some delays wont work the same, mostly the lofi a= nd tube delay non through versions... They get more signal from input and r= eact differently than before, i.e. more distorted if you use the drive. But= it wasn't a big deal to me to switch to the through versions.

While you're sending it in you might as well get both done. It doe= s sound better.

Teddy Kumpel

On Oct 11, 2012, a= t 12:31 PM, William Walker <= billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

I just had both an audio upgrade and switch upgrade = done by this guy. http://jhv3.squarespace.com/m9-mods/
 I cannot say enough good things about his work. I had been se= riously considering moving on to a more audiophile but less versatile  = ;delay like the strymon time line  before having these mods done but now I see no need. The s= ignal path is cleaner and more transparent, the noise floor is reduced, it = now has variable output gain, the algorithms have less digital grit and of = course the switches are hardwired, smooth as silk and accurate. i will have= the same thing done to my M-5 eventually. One thing it did not cure was th= e loop degradation  that Jeff Duke described when going in to reverse =  while in overdub mode at a point other than the beginning or ending o= f the loop, that i believe is a software issue they never fixed.
=  Bill




=
--506312955-1626846179-1350556607=:3476-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 10:40:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E05A183477; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 135415.20027.bm@omp1004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350556839; bh=cEweKxfP1TSmBEu8iak4+fasToN/3boq/mqY+6ePitY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZSVnjYV4ZeCqdMOJtNvDOEXLvK6tVpcmOBspfw1fR9weu9BdZzldrI4dbFqPup17PlWzWJYMArwYIflgOKHsDTwAmqJ7T+XyyckS1OXNHxe3dL/8lV14xUQ+x9LpyVmf0jSYODN+u4X15XDr801UuuqBZ6rfP6RG25KwY28l8Sc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uVuA83W5FZmLWRgqoflDdQ9o/3RX6SnbrRWUIq7NtBKFxqPcZSJr+JtWH1TNhJma1Atsrmp6vhyCuRu04ES6jDim93g8ljMISw7TrUfUwrK69D9bz3MoPEMD7XHWS3uDS7mBdRPgIvwg4+lXAU9t+axr3Ja+6YuQMvW5HStoPAY=; X-YMail-OSG: ih9JYA0VM1n6E_R8Keb3LvusyjE8MEjyPwxEvJE2XQof46a Gzm0pmAaiQjRMfkyAD1G.CnQloy7zXSMPHE5o6FV0YJ_jD7DLpSioFvWu2Ds s5AROVOQRTGMOXvrESo7D1g2ousoyLVNYXN9i6Th6sXsc4H4MSEKrUa0qLUZ bMPZbENpdeaRCk6mk5MAZw37syC1eSL6WXlv28tPSLSS4JkpgCe9Q2OBuTLi h17GS83c60OFOwOpHN6D594dtz9EjtgMX8Gjg2_kSOhk5xpo0h_m1IDjScxS xSmSkw.0l.gIPS4PP_EyqPAlg_yzdJApgNcaXak1L.A7MUvd_ccQbTPqPdue .Saf2RZF47X0yHwBMw28398Zon8iUaSCifGCXlrFF18axRk3AMHf1cKMY6rP fWVqJcKa1KTCDsxcnE0gicHctIeu.Ze5d5UshNNch5eIblZlhFTq.4XOtLWG .Zxf3WEg9GWCdAR5IobXN14lbWSdeoqjFCQ_J1WXBE1hQADSDrqzYPP2RzWA DuqVxzAkHxRzQFz_kt9KCMb4CbvOvTyLNTqn2urYrlZ4KaoMUK4IeWSgM7z5 xH_WD.MNC8zJX9Up41hdI5TqN5uU- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,aWQgbGlrZSB0byBqb2luIGlmIGkgbWF5Oy0pCgrCoApodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmx1aXMtYW5ndWxvLmNvbQoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBSaWNrIFdhbGtlciA8bG9vcHBvb2xAY3J1emlvLmNvbT4KVG86IExPT1BFUlMgREVMSUdIVCAocG9zdGluZykgPExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBsb29wZXJzLWRlbGlnaHQuY29tPiAKU2VudDogRnJpZGF5LCBPY3RvYmVyIDEyLCAyMDEyIDEwOjU4IEFNClN1YmplY3Q6IENPT1JESU5BVEVEIFkySzEzIExPT1BGRVNUSVZBTFMgbmV4dCABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <1350556838.41796.YahooMailNeo@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 03:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Luis Angulo Reply-To: Luis Angulo Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1480336445-594582071-1350556838=:41796" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:40:40 +0000 (UTC) ---1480336445-594582071-1350556838=:41796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable id like to join if i may;-)=0A=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.luis-angulo.com=0A=0A=0A_= _______________________________=0A From: Rick Walker = =0ATo: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) =0AS= ent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:58 AM=0ASubject: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFES= TIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia=0A =0AThis thread got= started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin), but I thought it w= as germane for everyone in this community to read (and perhaps some others = would want to participate, both as artists and possibly festival producers)= :=0A=0ARick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinat= ing a summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, N= orwhich and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and also in T= okyo, Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More=0A=0A=0ARick Walker: Michael= ? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? David? Ryusei? Hideki? Ra= ndolf?=0A=0A=0AMichael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation ma= rks!=0A=0A=0ARick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters=0A=0A=0ARick Wa= lker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! Georgina! Dav= id! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick!=0A=0A=0AMichael Peters: that's more like= it !!=0A=0A=0AMichael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ..= .=0A=0A=0ARick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam= , Thailand, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in Scan= dinavia, but the names I've mentioned have all said that they want to offic= ially expand the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with festivals un= der that umbrella name.=0AI think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years l= ater (17 since Loopers Delight was created) that we are talking about such = a scope.=0A=0AThe coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modic= um of money and a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through = the internet (and the various festivals, of course) ---1480336445-594582071-1350556838=:41796 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
id like to= join if i may;-)
 
http://www.luis-ang= ulo.com
Fr= om: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) <Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS nex= t summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia

This thr= ead got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin), but I thought it was germa= ne for everyone in this community to read (and perhaps some others would wa= nt to participate, both as artists and possibly festival producers):
Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinating a = summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, Norwhic= h and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and also in Tokyo, = Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More


Rick Walker: Michael? M= assimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? David? Ryusei? Hideki? Rando= lf?


Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation ma= rks!


Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters


R= ick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! Georgin= a! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick!


Michael Peters: that's = more like it !!


Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ...


Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with= people about Bali, Vietnam, Thailand, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and p= ossibly some places in Scandinavia, but the names I've mentioned have all s= aid that they want to officially expand the Y2K13 International Live Loopin= g concept with festivals under that umbrella name.
I think it's very exc= iting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Loopers Delight was created) tha= t we are talking about such a scope.

The coolest thing is that we've= done all of this with a modicum of money and a maximum of community involv= ement..........mostly through the internet (and the various festivals, of c= ourse)



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while we a= re on this subject,ive been thinking of getting a mixer with recording capa= bilities to do live mixing through firewire or USB to record every instrume= nt and transfer all separate recorded tracks to my DAW
ive been checking out the latest line 6 stage scape the presonus and the= mackie, as compact as possible and at least 16 tracks
any opinions recomendations from you x perts would be appreciated!
cheers
 Luis


From: m= ark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Mixing a live set
 =

another tip using Philips appr= oach is to first boost the middle, then sweep the frequency till it really = sounds terrible, then cut that... do that with high then low... then you probably= need to increase the gain.
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definitely ... Cutting bad frequen= cies is better than boosting frequencies you think you lack.

Sent fr= om my (advertisement removed)

On 16 Oct 2012, at 17:00, phill= ip wilson <phillwilson@hot= mail.com> wrote:
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=0ABest advice I have ha= d in theese kind of "at a pinch " situations, is to begin with the eq flat&= nbsp;and then "cut away" anything that sounds "too much" rather then gettin= g into perpetual boosting of fequencies.... "kind of a wood for the trees w= ay of working but it makes more sense to my ears.
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= ---985778932-1048949430-1350559067=:81698-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 12:06:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 442D018347A; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Msyv5nhLXadW4UCvUe9eSK/Fp+QAAfR5WsuyU68BzzQ=; b=sgQPjVQaZGmXxd532p87A2MMlCiBCJHLQ2zjpPK9m/cHSdbIncrGNJ+Dae3w3eENDI rpuzp8yvtM/5U1Zzrni7ogb7WSJu7oM9GlNF1m1ryqSZ1H6zxwaSGBx44T8FK9tEz/b8 Svs+dc80x5JY+l+tRc2sgViYWn7L3zFeJNXRVmLXnytH+clpRd7HflD5tzfzO+mcX9zr fpEuYswt/44rPZbpzvHyZgrh+gtKMZBmkPmPSR98UYBNmt4MqhbjZqAOFEQHds50MDKY IeHh+rEEsxwSYQpopQgqyTUgR09ZXu2LcwHasyIzFrTaARndNBnroMI1CcFzMvO2uPzO PL4Q== Message-ID: <507FF0A5.6040008@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:05:57 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: [Gig Info] Andreas Willers in =?ISO-8859-15?Q?M=FCnchen=2C_Oct?= =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=2E_25th_2012?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:06:00 +0000 (UTC) For those among you in or close to Southern Germany: Andreas Willers will be performing with Achim Kaufmann (p) and Axel Dörner (tp) at MUG (Munich): Thursday October 25th, 2000 http://www.offeneohren.org/ Andreas is a guitarist who is a jazz cat to boot (in the positive sense), and an avid EDP user; his style typically combines contemporary European jazz influences with hardcore turntablist-guitar looping, and down that realm is really good in making that looping approach work in an ensemble context. Always a treat to listen to him in any project (I had the pleasure to hear him both solo at the 2008 Berlin loopfest and with his "Montauk" project). The performance on 25th will also include a solo set by Andreas. Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 14:01:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA81F183478; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N/lSkgeKhltEy7A5chURPWX+Q0Ukr1VD+VT49WbT7p0=; b=JkNoyTChLu+W4lmt3D4hobAPJZZ3OPiz3VSOd6GcvOPqmpMwAgDz4/Y/Sxk0PzsZvs s2jbmniUHZ710UXG4ew52ar3N55Jmx5OnhpD3RFDm5uklolsf2oNHtZmC58FhmfsU48L WIwloett+rd8cbjjK/y4WP4gVtTPRguuTYT51GohPirJ5deI4SP6YJ187yOFZFeuk7Po QcnHt8QF9mdPVN2sxCOT8U1gEGMTtXxjLJXFUXacin4LdrkWu91MrfSgpa9RKCwCp8Ir mZ3B+a+C8B9LlGg08MeqDOSkMSTetijVBjn6ghV/Jv4kr85uR+e9mIcYUL/eUkbLrl3r 1xPw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <507FF0A5.6040008@googlemail.com> References: <507FF0A5.6040008@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:01:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5BGig_Info=5D_Andreas_Willers_in_M=C3=BCnchen=2C_Oct=2E_25t?= =?UTF-8?Q?h_2012?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8VH1jD.A.VcC.vuAgQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Good call! That would be great fun, Rainer, if I only was a bit closer (20 hours bus trip from here). Andreas humorous tongue-in-cheek improvisations makes me smile and remember Willem Breuker Kollektief, that I liked to see live in the seventies. Andreas also dug out pianist Paul Bley, from wherever he had been hiding, to record a duo album with him. Bley is another guy that has inspired me a lot. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > For those among you in or close to Southern Germany: > > Andreas Willers will be performing with Achim Kaufmann (p) and Axel D=C3= =B6rner > (tp) at MUG (Munich): > Thursday October 25th, 2000 > http://www.offeneohren.org/ > > Andreas is a guitarist who is a jazz cat to boot (in the positive sense), > and an avid EDP user; his style typically combines contemporary European > jazz influences with hardcore turntablist-guitar looping, and down that > realm is really good in making that looping approach work in an ensemble > context. > Always a treat to listen to him in any project (I had the pleasure to hea= r > him both solo at the 2008 Berlin loopfest and with his "Montauk" project)= . > The performance on 25th will also include a solo set by Andreas. > > Yours, > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 16:23:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 029B518347A; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50802BC4.4090005@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:18:12 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:23:02 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Aurora." You will also hear music by Ian Boddy who will play at The Gatherings this Saturday as well as music by Gentique who will play at the the Soundscapes Concert Series on December 2. The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 16:23:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE18D183479; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=BRfcO/6W6plBXKVaxFer96uGk/XMt/jfKMfGvENwduk=; b=QFyOGJooIeYRc7cOKovE3mv4Snxe5Z+nlR01T23hN8zWawAD9zf7PljF9AkL+3QK8S /dId3lOsMIX+JfFasS9XY3HvckI1Ed7Zh8K2eGhtahQdw8cEuK0aVM0clrOZXiaSYAWk Z/Q0lwxWXzxdpMA9qtLPZuPIUOpEQ1CnpWKjzQ9K97TecyiUGbWl2MIypJVUiG+wJUK3 v0bILJxUK/F4ENMjHofJKjp3iAE/76Vc+6OzAfVAwd49PdAM8ik1v0TJ7S+yb6NaO7oI 5FtUDjyKK/VepGh6/J+1GwF5UsC2KBnRJ/ucY2jM/dICW2MGyfGWBuVKMBRiInHSpMLH BuDg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:23:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603c7ae3396304cc57cf22 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:23:49 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603c7ae3396304cc57cf22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Two suggestions: 1- write a mission statement for yourself and before taking on any new project, determine how that project or activity will contribute to your mission. If it does not contribute, don't do it. 2- organize your time and adopt a project management approach to your artistic practice (read the book Making ideas happen if you know nothing about project management). This stuff works to build bridges, it also works for photos and songs... Stick with it, there are no secrets, just work. Sylvain --047d7b603c7ae3396304cc57cf22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Two suggestions:
= 1- write a mission statement for you= rself and before taking on any new project, determine how that project or a= ctivity will contribute to your mission. =A0If it does not contribute, don&= #39;t do it.

2- organize your time and adopt a project man= agement approach to your artistic practice (read the book Making ideas happ= en if you know nothing about project management). =A0This stuff works to bu= ild bridges, it also works for photos and songs...

Stick with it, there are no secrets, just wor= k.

Sylvain
--047d7b603c7ae3396304cc57cf22-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 16:50:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 873DA18347B; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:50:16 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Uccello CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Re: Balancing out your practice References: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:50:23 +0000 (UTC) When I grew up, my father always used to warn me, "be careful of being a jack of all trades and a master of none." Of course, then he'd screw my head up by talking about how much he liked the concept of being a 'Rennaisance Man', which he really was in a lot of ways. So, over the years, as I began to be dedicated to becoming a multi-instrumentalist, I, too have struggled with the same thoughts that you have expressed, Steve. I'd like to weigh in with a different perspective, however. If we are merely talking about 'chops', then there is a definite risk of letting one's 'chops' diminish on one instrument because you are suddenly, putting more attention into another one that has a really different skill set. I learned that here while back, because I had played trumpet so much for a couple of years and then because I've been fascinated by piano and strings instruments this last year that I had neglected my trumpet. Of course, when I went back to it, I had back slid considerably with my embouchre. I found though, that when I re-fell in love with my trumpet that it has just taken a few weeks to start to build my chops back..........not entirely like learning how to ride a bike. But more importantly than that, is the fact that when we let ourselves follow our 'musical bliss' as it were, we also constantly increase our over all understanding of how music works. Chops are important but I find that how one uses those chops says almost everything about their musicianship. This is why, increasingly, I have concentrated on teaching my students about 'music' as opposed to , specifically, drums or percussion or bass or piano or what have you. This increasing understanding of and maturation of 'musicality' is a gigantic part of music. I was listening to Stevie Ray Vaughn on a radio program the other day. I never listen to Stevie Ray Vaughn, but in this case, he was playing a solo and he used three pitches and finally four pitches in an entire part of a solo. It was wicked good. I was just marvelling at how entirely 'musical' he was and how satisfying those three pitches were in this particular solo. Well, any hack beginning blues lead guitarist can play three or four note solos and you never get the same feeling from it. The difference is entirely 'musical maturity'. So, I would encourage you to just keep playing what your heart tells you to play, whether it is the instrument you have the most mastery on or one that is brand new to you. If you are constantly growing musically, it will reflect on your playing. Sure, people who concentrate on one instrument drag less gear to a gig for the same pay as you make, lugging six instruments. This is a spurious framing, however, I believe. What's important is what makes you happiest. I've personally known musicians who make ten times as much money as I do who are miserable (and some who've made that much money who are really happy , too). What's important is following what feeds your aesthetic soul. I know you , Steve, you are meant to play a lot of instruments.......it's in your blood. From an old fart who's been doing it a very, very long time, I encourage you to not trip out on it too much. Just play your song, brother! affectionately, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 16:57:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96D03183479; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 748221.58921.bm@omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1350579451; bh=8ZrMit+oyr8bgDC/p51G+ZxMRqDfgT3KZqUlAbQnETI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=RahGU43cmh7F8CREl+F6+9Xkuso/K+kkFS5JVki7yBsWttbjdgka1npP7da9DKyuOTjWl8dgsWnG65ecan/4pcHd839gCqbffDZZovI8ad3hZirU68PGKEZFqlOA62d2f8iLp0VuHZW39L8i4ucZalfmHC1vGGv13UOJm/UTnZo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: nziVuJoVM1kEA_I7cTcv0aumTD.tIllUbxQAFi6LhnaQeGa cz8yCK9ynT.Ycwu_zm29pnKT8ux3eSNpodM7NzJgehmaF3qwcIwMRmD.YLGK oKclht5iVjGvahLojaSSER7G4CJtekkJh5sZmaYPTGYkgw00gUz18lRfph9l Z2c9ztbApnDgTs4f2cyQLtAtZdBxcAwZ1_hmg74fzRIN80KHpprs2QUdt8NX MGhbj166uxGxN5UOboelf0Cf03a4eADAXdpYNfBIp0dVwHg0_yTmhEiGt5Ch YilRL12GH1ALrN3Knl7wAQwjGnr2nO8Ubj7BonHPe9pIPOrzbnIOESTL5R3C Xv9PsDTP8eQDa4LnwTHiLdO87vPxkRgnfiZBW0_uwDX8RYqireHPpiWiBTJE 8_GkJ4OiTv0Bwm6K40rqRSMOMYtRtqRUZoohv.wdO4nUYCP4- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Laurie Amat In-Reply-To: <50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:57:32 -0700 Cc: Steve Uccello Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Well said, Rick. I'm gonna take this home. On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 > When I grew up, my father always used to warn me, "be careful of = being a jack of all trades and > a master of none." Of course, then he'd screw my head up by = talking about how much he liked > the concept of being a 'Rennaisance Man', > which he really was in a lot of ways. >=20 > So, over the years, as I began to be dedicated to becoming a = multi-instrumentalist, I, too have struggled > with the same thoughts that you have expressed, Steve. >=20 > I'd like to weigh in with a different perspective, however. >=20 > If we are merely talking about 'chops', then there is a definite risk = of letting one's 'chops' diminish > on one instrument because you are suddenly, putting more attention = into another one that has > a really different skill set. I learned that here while back, = because I had played trumpet so much for a > couple of years and then because I've been fascinated by piano and = strings instruments this last year > that I had neglected my trumpet. Of course, when I went back to it, = I had back slid considerably with my > embouchre. I found though, that when I re-fell in love with my = trumpet that it has just taken a few weeks > to start to build my chops back..........not entirely like learning = how to ride a bike. >=20 > But more importantly than that, is the fact that when we let ourselves = follow our 'musical bliss' as it were, > we also constantly increase our over all understanding of how music = works. >=20 > Chops are important but I find that how one uses those chops says = almost everything about their > musicianship. This is why, increasingly, I have concentrated on = teaching my students about 'music' as opposed > to , specifically, drums or percussion or bass or piano or what have = you. >=20 > This increasing understanding of and maturation of 'musicality' is a = gigantic part of music. >=20 > I was listening to Stevie Ray Vaughn on a radio program the other day. = I never listen to Stevie Ray Vaughn, but in this case, he was playing = a solo and he used three pitches and finally four pitches in an entire = part of a solo. > It was wicked good. I was just marvelling at how entirely 'musical' = he was and how satisfying those three pitches were > in this particular solo. >=20 > Well, any hack beginning blues lead guitarist can play three or four = note solos and you never get the same feeling from it. > The difference is entirely 'musical maturity'. >=20 > So, I would encourage you to just keep playing what your heart tells = you to play, whether it is the instrument > you have the most mastery on or one that is brand new to you. If = you are constantly growing musically, it will reflect > on your playing. >=20 > Sure, people who concentrate on one instrument drag less gear to a = gig for the same pay as you make, lugging > six instruments. This is a spurious framing, however, I believe. >=20 > What's important is what makes you happiest. I've personally known = musicians who make ten times as much money as I do who are miserable = (and some who've made that much money who are really happy , too). >=20 > What's important is following what feeds your aesthetic soul. >=20 > I know you , Steve, you are meant to play a lot of = instruments.......it's in your blood. > =46rom an old fart who's been doing it a very, very long time, I = encourage you to not trip out on it too much. >=20 > Just play your song, brother! >=20 > affectionately, Rick >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 18:46:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4486183478; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=jm3lgYwZwN5qjZdCes+77AKhqoCkGFqPdoRRhEuFIRc=; b=HtTvnpGVsy056ff9Kv11Jjz+xL0HRq6bBq9EFcyLT1hLyKvl7v6CdJr7bbXpKmD/df 5HOJw8g07E16oytDbQAHs2l6DwNVSutIKOG+iBLyHOYQd2NgVX/Vjvre7QJfXlAFouzD nGzWJjnT2/fxlydMzITPGvMIYA3SrRAl29FkSG8xREVsIdhtPryOy8iTdiDC82b1U4TQ nLSHljWJtkNhvM3665YYcb87C0zknNbiyG07Vfi+XYmPNgsrJRdGFoz/TsQ5b8sdiQIz 5MCQNM04SN1qk+lx7KHBjO8qurxzwJcmiKIFqpcCL4VUeBCUUPwwEiNlunb8L5ROClNT vZJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:46:24 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TibElwdPkDdIhfspG6QhnSkqEFo Message-ID: Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6707270af67804cc59cfed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:46:45 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6707270af67804cc59cfed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The feeling of wanting to play many instruments I think makes you a composer, not a musician. Or play one instrument that sounds like alot of instruments... In the sound picture of looping, one needs different textures and pitches, learning many instruments to a proffesional level is pointless, but play loads of instuments so you can make a sound... quite often, thats all you need! One jab at a cello in the right place, one blast of a trumpet or sax... a few notes of blues harp... There are some loopers that just stay with one sound and loop, Andre la Fosse for example... now I LOVE his looping, really love it.... but to me, he is not making the whole picture, ist more of an exercise, what you can do with and EDP and a looper... I wandered off there, bringing it back to practice, if you are a looper, then you should practice looping, with any instrument... As Rick said, there will be natural phases, where you favour the Flugelhorn over the Bagpipe for a few years, but then one day, you open up a cardboard box in the basement and see it again after all these years... your love for the Jews Harp is fully restored! (I mean it... just re-discovered Jews Harp... amazing instrument) Mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b6707270af67804cc59cfed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The feeling of wanting to play many instruments I think makes you a compose= r, not a musician. Or play one instrument that sounds like alot of instrume= nts... In the sound picture of looping, one needs different textures and pi= tches, learning many instruments to a proffesional level is pointless, but = play loads of instuments so you can make a sound... quite often, thats all = you need! One jab at a cello in the right place, one blast of a trumpet or = sax... a few notes of blues harp...
There are some loopers that just stay with one sound and loop, Andre la Fos= se for example... now I LOVE his looping, really love it.... but to me, he = is not making the whole picture, ist more of an exercise, what you can do w= ith and EDP and a looper...

I wandered off there, bringing it back to practice, if you are a looper= , then you should practice looping, with any instrument... As Rick said, th= ere will be natural phases, where you favour the Flugelhorn over the Bagpip= e for a few years, but then one day, you open up a cardboard box in the bas= ement and see it again after all these years... your love for the Jews Harp= is fully restored!

(I mean it... just re-discovered Jews Harp... amazing instrument)
Mark


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--047d7b6707270af67804cc59cfed-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 19:13:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB3F5183473; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Ki275MTweFqQrPcnqHArhZAzrNvlKMUh7GIvdN86bUg=; b=X/6PxXYG91m2Lgzb6QodtWYx5IjjDAovFLZWtUx1G2gM8qd9HIGs/Iawzodjg6uvcF izjMs14PAZtSGZJpXXXjE3gXZN3wqOXtxChZSNGw9b4KeYj9SY1gJHB1pvd8miU7ZAh9 w/0wyXgFJbyW7nN1SFVTR0kwmC1kkerpn6gYUNZpgxbxn66RrLYRMtE8+k7Q1uDlbMG4 vvYoSIB+LA/SKDpZ+s8c2kjkn672suXxjulPzoXM3c4jhNJc9muvh3uLrj3ayVDnqU5N jlwJGjWomQVPrBY4DEL/GUYh2QrzBNnGBNklX96R97nyCA/wgh0oqTJp+whGT1dCXNR2 ZicA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:12:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:13:00 +0000 (UTC) > > (I mean it... just re-discovered Jews Harp... amazing instrument) Check this site out then http://www.worldharps.com/ Amazing sounds, really. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 20:40:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E410718347A; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 366334.39966.bm@omp1062.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350592805; bh=xSXdDIsIzTElyaFFm2O+Qk7wB+qjoIUK9E4YBGf0TJA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C711TIVABOKk46MFBFuUWR92hlN0kHWvD0061aY1NtINorDh6u0pHftz0iHl1ytU1fx+xuhhttw0Bgsl3St640NjWZJ+a7kc3C4Wg0km+bzhLtFPm9kJVdVMi+Sl0hcYe7UDiSwgRn4xmeL8WvFxUzOyE8FZgcsI0CWCOLjBVbY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f/nfVbJPLIrNQJlPPoWTArSkcXNdDo1gLXatW65gDDiXbzAZJsiFdc86e1uKMap48jhwRmE5E8qJ/pD9/PjRbXbKdaHd0/AnbZ+cZD5oU1q4fn0cVOf2zxJYnQi0CoVIOc6nQNv7C0LkdttsV04vZj1QRypoa8gwjpyVAQRzYFY=; X-YMail-OSG: IUUBjZwVM1mJosQf0UozyxtUCdrdRzhUpOO2DqQ29eFPXFc NNHuEZHLd5Zy89O4.F27tBwqreHZMJ_gJdgTAF_DMjYo_KfhKIVP5fQZsl6i 6yH_xL3ac7WDuLrKlNs183FHOOgzn1HfpXytSgYF5WZWjH0zrZtxDENr4Hek jZgnqf41t6YaPgbHnSziYVK4KXDcJfAVEMxSoNae1S3tnzMSdG9pCprKX34n NMoKq7T8nn7jbzPZxMzI1Pt9OTwEYJzftC7JJHEkdkqNnVVIZ6nDJWKkfIAH jScP4yZFU42GocD0Ca2RHsHtzm4BkpIdE8gKx5qloEB4vjyaKclHxiaVffqX jVQ82lSqDQ1R_JpSJ9hasRU4WZtYmO9t8E9rExaIajzwPMo3ct1iodEW4rA2 YpHHNgPiLPvXeQnVvCv2TTJmuEAGZZO5IVPKOkaTXXs3xmqC97B4Z9pGIzZb G6zOPnElVfQccokbxedbUvTptAkQ4b.43OrNzP3FFdKGjtuQcLeEwiR_76UX Suc2pq5C0y1HQLoz8IpLips4vBqiwg5sCnrU0XmODNH1ffAgNcfJy1ihGhZV hqYM52AfwK0DrXXadFdV.jCX7qKkAcOPR9IAj60cYVO0zw3kTmDDE1RPYQfZ jDx0aTU.PHg5LqKcql7lOsx1CKC253.t4X7z5dtA6.5XEPjb1IaHTp4ZAOL1 V2daCI7mMjy4H2w4thLxP135MXAfy89eA6Vibu0vsvc0qJ9NRq91p8akbkt9 jPVPUolRC4yHaLaFLUEUhlG5KkSnXCLD5aDFvQD.U8hKmRxg7GWrLxT7.gMT eR40I7M8Z5ar42c0- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,WWVzaXJlZS4gVGhlcmUgaXMgYXNvbmcgb3V0IGJ5ICJHb3R5YSIsIHRoYXQgaGFzLCBqdXN0IGJlZm9yZSB0aGUgZmVtYWxlIHZvY2FsIGNvbWVzIGluLCBvbmUgc2luZ2xlIHppdGhlciBub3RlLiBJdCByZXBlYXRzIGEgY291cGxlIGJhcnMgbGF0ZXIsIGJ1dCBpcyBsZXNzIHByb21pbmVudCBiZWNhdXNlIG9mIHRoZSBzaW5naW5nLiBUaGVyZSBpcyBhbHNvIG1lbGxvdHJvbiBmbHV0ZXMsIHNvZnRseSBpbiBvbmUgY2hvcnVzLCBsb3VkZXIgaW4gaGVyIGNob3J1cy4gRm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1lIHNpbmMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <1350592805.89054.YahooMailNeo@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:40:05 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-2002498609-1619941934-1350592805=:89054" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:40:07 +0000 (UTC) ---2002498609-1619941934-1350592805=:89054 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yesiree. There is asong out by "Gotya", that has, just before the female vocal comes in, one single zither note. It repeats a couple bars later, but is less prominent because of the singing. There is also mellotron flutes, softly in one chorus, louder in her chorus. For the first time since hearing King Crimson back in the 70s, I now know what Ian Mcdonald was speaking of when he said they would, "use a willow pattern". Checkout the lo-fi marching snare during the secong half of the verses. All-in-all, a clever bit of manipulating sound, and making a sparse arrangement sound more than the sum of it's parts. Rig ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice The feeling of wanting to play many instruments I think makes you a composer, not a musician. Or play one instrument that sounds like alot of instruments... In the sound picture of looping, one needs different textures and pitches, learning many instruments to a proffesional level is pointless, but play loads of instuments so you can make a sound... quite often, thats all you need! One jab at a cello in the right place, one blast of a trumpet or sax... a few notes of blues harp... There are some loopers that just stay with one sound and loop, Andre la Fosse for example... now I LOVE his looping, really love it.... but to me, he is not making the whole picture, ist more of an exercise, what you can do with and EDP and a looper... I wandered off there, bringing it back to practice, if you are a looper, then you should practice looping, with any instrument... As Rick said, there will be natural phases, where you favour the Flugelhorn over the Bagpipe for a few years, but then one day, you open up a cardboard box in the basement and see it again after all these years... your love for the Jews Harp is fully restored! (I mean it... just re-discovered Jews Harp... amazing instrument) Mark -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ ---2002498609-1619941934-1350592805=:89054 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Yesiree. There is asong out by "Gotya", that has, just before the female vocal comes in, one single zither note. It repeats a couple bars later, but is less prominent because of the singing. There is also mellotron flutes, softly in one chorus, louder in her chorus. For the first time since hearing King Crimson back in the 70s, I now know what Ian Mcdonald was speaking of when he said they would, "use a willow pattern". Checkout the lo-fi marching snare during the secong half of the verses. All-in-all, a clever bit of manipulating sound, and making a sparse arrangement sound more than the sum of it's parts.
Rig
From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice

The feeling of wanting to play many instruments I think makes you a composer, not a musician. Or play one instrument that sounds like alot of instruments... In the sound picture of looping, one needs different textures and pitches, learning many instruments to a proffesional level is pointless, but play loads of instuments so you can make a sound... quite often, thats all you need! One jab at a cello in the right place, one blast of a trumpet or sax... a few notes of blues harp...
There are some loopers that just stay with one sound and loop, Andre la Fosse for example... now I LOVE his looping, really love it.... but to me, he is not making the whole picture, ist more of an exercise, what you can do with and EDP and a looper...

I wandered off there, bringing it back to practice, if you are a looper, then you should practice looping, with any instrument... As Rick said, there will be natural phases, where you favour the Flugelhorn over the Bagpipe for a few years, but then one day, you open up a cardboard box in the basement and see it again after all these years... your love for the Jews Harp is fully restored!

(I mean it... just re-discovered Jews Harp... amazing instrument)

Mark


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---2002498609-1619941934-1350592805=:89054-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 21:48:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E74CB183479; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=88xVBRoq+w3sJsbAO1XkhFGP99fOhNoB+NSBV/JUdWk=; b=LJ7JMa4JLVMFUoVvswZhUF/oRd0Td9QKon1iU4FHEURp7JvliFvf03+KMajQ2AA5d1 cRYSxMdKD2EMKmYjVQidrB1XjHH74a43k09EDTpNGTRuELOfWzwhda2Nq1txalVkoJrs ItakiX7Z3arzcE1cLxCUThdcJxzrH/rpf0f0l4JyD66uXd4BGuFzQqln6VY9fudgfbSP 7nN02HxGZ5bcmMB4CpAICBlWGwhG7o+UkWP/Vf5IVhCa+4En14RVN51gN39eSpJTWV5D ws4yyzq1oHqAz3LRHKldhToprlCrAA1e+5ya2jKHI60tzlRosjSMDqw1TIZooxahkBDa XYFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:48:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:48:43 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:22 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice > schedule between piano, live looping, producing and photography? it feels > impossible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How can I? My > looping and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to keep up my > skill for both but its like i have no discipline... The trick is to practice the art first and practice chops and skills as second priority. When playing an instrument, don't focus on where you put down your fingers, focus on what notes you create and what music these notes bring out. This trick is widely known as "free your mind and your ass will follow". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 22:07:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0B5B18347B; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c163ea76-fe21-42e3-b68f-708556c86f6f_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: jAM eLECTRONIQUE (Laid back (elektronic) jam band style - LOOPING) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:07:29 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2012 22:07:30.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[F74DE680:01CDAD7C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:07:31 +0000 (UTC) --_c163ea76-fe21-42e3-b68f-708556c86f6f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/jam-electroniqueThis is totally impro= vised as usual.. in all its length.. (18 minutes... ) 3 looping tracks.. bu= t the sequenced stuff is from the loops and looped on the sequencers and th= e drums are looped samples=2C so this is meta loopinI'm really happy with = the bass figure which is actually a part of one of the guitar loops=2C with= ADSR and starting point adjusted. Instruments used is the pinstripe Kauer/= Soloway.. and of course the Elektron Octatrack which produces all sounds ex= pect the drums from the live guitar loops.. No synths are used Several of t= he tracks on the octa are set to different length and varying lenghts.. so = there are some poly rhythms... of sorts.. Enjoy=2C Anders = --_c163ea76-fe21-42e3-b68f-708556c86f6f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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This = is totally improvised as usual.. in all its length.. (18 minutes... ) 3 loo= ping tracks.. but the sequenced stuff is from the loops and looped on the s= equencers and the drums are  =3Blooped samples=2C so this is meta loopi= n
I'm really happy with the bass figure which is actually a part = of one of the guitar loops=2C with ADSR and starting point adjusted. Instru= ments used is the pinstripe Kauer/Soloway.. and of course the Elektron Octa= track which produces all sounds expect the drums from the live guitar loops= .. No synths are used =3B
Several of the tracks on the octa are set to different length and varying = lenghts.. so there are some poly rhythms... of sorts..

Enjoy=2C

Anders
= --_c163ea76-fe21-42e3-b68f-708556c86f6f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 22:33:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15049183479; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=AQEU1FjaBEf5TSXq495A4h I6f1E=; b=kYIVzfU6zuzxpABZoZk5oANB6IswVswwXGByBd5Ms9h1GpcUaaRmkL h8BCYlBcHUa4jAYZNAv71t1UWrZ8SAOCa4lLDo8PncSM29f8GlqOsnpiYn5YCXXg /teReCpc5ZWXffeGF4cYmVOe7NvjkxmCOyYdgJeB2nEk7ab4i6Egg= X-Sasl-enc: eMpnuvm5Fv8bFUX24XbfFgOurh9Qwnjs3c4p5hOoGgMT 1350599586 Message-ID: <5080839B.2090008@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:32:59 -0700 From: Rob Campbell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight CC: davew@easystreet.net Subject: Re: Any news on the LP1? References: <507B116F.9090007@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <507B116F.9090007@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:33:08 +0000 (UTC) On 10/14/2012 12:24 PM, 7stringjazz wrote: > > Is it dead? Also can someone post a link to the latest firmware/doc > set? Thanks! -dave > 2 weeks ago my answer would have been yes, dead and abandoned. (which is why I just sold mine) In a recent surprise reappearance after a 6 month absence, the LP1 creator started has posting on the looperlative forum again. So maybe not quite dead ... alive and well? I'm not willing to go that far. Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixed on that version citing that previously stable features had been broken. (not the first time the upgrades had that issue). Some people say 1.34 was the last stable version. That says something. (google: 'looperlative 1.34 stable' ) The manual linked to on the website is labeled 1.20 'rough draft'. I think that is about 5-6 years out of date. http://looperlativeaudio.com/upgrades/lp1-user-manual-007.pdf Supposedly there is a later version available if you beg for it directly. Rob From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 06:23:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DECB0183478; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 06:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=b1PnlmGYO5VdgZyDyuMY0HLaCQZPrtZz5xYGS9nJWHA=; b=a8+pQxJwEQs78vILvvBOQ5kqBPZ6U5YkYT/W4ACJGDebn8i3WqwxO8NmwAiTWvEyrx hHlYAvTXXIZhjABopRrXkHWcNaEHFZXs05zuSK052V0a1Xooavfh4qugdoqI9kwGEcGP TM6gNEY5iNRA20VUwFAPkhDmF29t/wswYzvb2dYf6KO1MnjO+KZrJRz6eib1R3idg5js RHJlwQzjdDv7R/ZA5+QMyo+Ge8P4UzuGIoIDtGoe8OEjfNdaUcit1RI0wtZoxbNre9cN cgYJqEni4UByP8ivUR2LzB/zj/1O2D6shW6VQeKQocbxBiDwhysPdorum61QrDCPl8/c Omug== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:23:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043891af784a4f04cc638bf9 Resent-Message-ID: <6lRPbB.A.cWE.tHPgQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 06:23:41 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043891af784a4f04cc638bf9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 --f46d043891af784a4f04cc638bf9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 --f46d043891af784a4f04cc638bf9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 07:14:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C8B4183475; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1iXSt7s87gf1Sjyu+yOVRjRR0ApQFDUj/NW7pu10m+k=; b=GQyhNMRsDkC664bTqsNxy/lxllNedISFxSrfOMQSa2n3bcmCW9tkubbi008UiR+UM7 lWBXxD46RKD91cDMl8Es1IP2CVkRoeXeG6bhL0B+s4Ml9CyyaWpWI0ImpO1n94Qp8W6D Us1s5Ggtu5aPab6P5CC6JVRKhwQ89aS+Ev4uZtt9fc6EstgJqTnBTKFsvobKTCYl5DCA ldd7eppJNaGEVKHJAHILOLMZAxfbn0mjk3gFL2rjfTJgD1HcNYkmvWPDvuQ9NRvB7g+k b6xY5ZaGf5wVJ9/bkVaeSPOVQA2tNkUUUuPIN47gTEbVdcvpqUagBY03mjRMA4061+2o iTWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 03:14:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343496a863ce04cc64407b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:14:21 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343496a863ce04cc64407b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You can count this among the things that do not matter. ;) On Thursday, October 18, 2012, kay'lon rushing wrote: > --047d7b343496a863ce04cc64407b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 You can count this among the things that do not matter.
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On Thursday, October 18, 2012, kay'lon rushing wrote:
--047d7b343496a863ce04cc64407b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 09:45:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB8C8183479; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cd33e168-6040-48b0-80c9-841a944ec338_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Balancing out your practice Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:45:42 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>,<50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2012 09:45:42.0999 (UTC) FILETIME=[81769670:01CDADDE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:45:48 +0000 (UTC) --_cd33e168-6040-48b0-80c9-841a944ec338_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I highly recommend this album! It was produced by an L.A. artist known as M= adlib who IMHO is one of the illest loopers in modern music today. This alb= um was composed entirely of bass loops=2C and the rest of the tracks were f= ully played out live. Madlib was not musically trained at the time=2C and j= ust played what he felt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DScXCUKY6dCg From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Thu=2C 18 Oct 2012 20:46:24 +0200 Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The feeling of wanting to play many instruments I think makes you a compose= r=2C not a musician. Or play one instrument that sounds like alot of instru= ments... In the sound picture of looping=2C one needs different textures an= d pitches=2C learning many instruments to a proffesional level is pointless= =2C but play loads of instuments so you can make a sound... quite often=2C = thats all you need! One jab at a cello in the right place=2C one blast of a= trumpet or sax... a few notes of blues harp...=20 There are some loopers that just stay with one sound and loop=2C Andre la F= osse for example... now I LOVE his looping=2C really love it.... but to me= =2C he is not making the whole picture=2C ist more of an exercise=2C what y= ou can do with and EDP and a looper... I wandered off there=2C bringing it back to practice=2C if you are a looper= =2C then you should practice looping=2C with any instrument... As Rick said= =2C there will be natural phases=2C where you favour the Flugelhorn over th= e Bagpipe for a few years=2C but then one day=2C you open up a cardboard bo= x in the basement and see it again after all these years... your love for t= he Jews Harp is fully restored!=20 (I mean it... just re-discovered Jews Harp... amazing instrument) Mark --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_cd33e168-6040-48b0-80c9-841a944ec338_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I highly recommend this album! It was produced by an L.A. artist known as M= adlib who IMHO is one of the illest loopers in modern music today. This alb= um was composed entirely of bass loops=2C and the rest of the tracks were f= ully played out live. Madlib was not musically trained at the time=2C and j= ust played what he felt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DScXCUKY6d= Cg

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Thu=2C 18 Oct 2012 20:46:24 +0200Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com

The feeling of wanting to play many instruments I think m= akes you a composer=2C not a musician. Or play one instrument that sounds l= ike alot of instruments... In the sound picture of looping=2C one needs dif= ferent textures and pitches=2C learning many instruments to a proffesional = level is pointless=2C but play loads of instuments so you can make a sound.= .. quite often=2C thats all you need! One jab at a cello in the right place= =2C one blast of a trumpet or sax... a few notes of blues harp...
There are some loopers that just stay with one sound and loop=2C Andre la F= osse for example... now I LOVE his looping=2C really love it.... but to me= =2C he is not making the whole picture=2C ist more of an exercise=2C what y= ou can do with and EDP and a looper...

I wandered off there=2C bringing it back to practice=2C if you are a lo= oper=2C then you should practice looping=2C with any instrument... As Rick = said=2C there will be natural phases=2C where you favour the Flugelhorn ove= r the Bagpipe for a few years=2C but then one day=2C you open up a cardboar= d box in the basement and see it again after all these years... your love f= or the Jews Harp is fully restored!

(I mean it... just re-discovered Jews Harp... amazing instrument)
Mark


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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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It was produced by an L.A. artist known as > Madlib who IMHO is one of the illest loopers in modern music today. This > album was composed entirely of bass loops, and the rest of the tracks were > fully played out live. Madlib was not musically trained at the time, and > just played what he felt. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScXCUKY6dCg That clips sounds very cool to me! Makes me think about The Avelanges collage music. This cut and paste vibe fully directed by just listening to one's own taste is so nice! Many great musicians work hard to learn that and keep coming up with music theory based strategies... but creating such music really comes down to listening! I've heard this vibe resonating through Miles Davis music as well as a lot of DJ produced techno. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 12:57:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 340E018347B; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 369256.6254.bm@omp1055.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350651462; bh=KIz5LQbaIXPejwF12iZLec89I5Ykd5lSJYazhiCa8bI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bP9sQoQhggLMULJ4WwX248iJfSl6dfwLJZZE2Xq5VNI50VprIT7MY5Vz3a6IyEZjW4sh1KpEbM0SXcuCYKB2ssnGNMrQwxVOIOYTt6qrRvKAv7ZaxmC6rojVrzqCvujZH1ax3eR9BJG78rdgRLNiquSr+LWAcTd+rfI4CR29I7s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vVpQMVsFaybp8mBhOnljLY4Cn3MLrGVF8Hdk614LVrqkgwOlIR9dIezcnDxVy/krv172x7XeGCsWln7z5D1wROjuXUKxo9ozqHLB9ykfhDT3gYAGiMNWOJt6yPiaZJ10YeJe8fkgLFw2qAzMbuvhSbGRJ5gdL6ASOhy528e4Bi8=; X-YMail-OSG: l57cDasVM1nujcaAlRY1nQ4PffKZWNFfysipQINX3qPPM8E 69C9YoV3MZJl.NydSppfLyM.QNxbaJiE_EP56AUiBIQTE7hOufQAXxqWlRC9 FlZ5ILAayIzo767i_W0WrQiPHjx6DmqP9V9GzSJ.9usLHhhwZD0Eao6a9PfF GEDKMCpYwEbAP.8GadMOaCU3Ixnxe.aQCNN6uu_cXnGHJrxhpHlchMbYIIqf h7QaRmfKiMys8hO1Ug3irMs233UNCNS5N18tH1oGSEVbRpJvXOj9T.Yt8hB6 h4WxdeBRzmKq10flSFHbmoMAPioRG7WuYSp9onp6Rydcz2yiI.0EtKKqtqk5 0x5XIwSnHlUI2yn4KuhyXc7UpVSC1m4VZ.xrtB7C_Jz2DxEKtH9rtqsU4elc ruwYo_X5fKeiegoUauOEvUJEaAs22POqVqVWnaGZdamW5yhvMIuTBOBBsSxQ v5WMpwG1J2r8dnXTiPwJ9Ilk2JUoycjo8uBD4FQitpettGlSOX7obgGnYc6C QB78XdjvXib877z7yyRu8vDcRFDVaER5dhBFkaRowAiOdmSFEBwf.6RJa35. x2kKmEF2H9pErIyVDY82EgtCUNgK.npdl0YjYi_9jvlS10aasYg6nwB4fWyY 9TNqDtoMElg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,Q2FuIGFueW9uZSBzYXksICJUaGUgT3JiIj8gREogU3Bvb2t5LCB0aGF0IHN1YmxpbWluYWwga2lkPw0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCnBlciBoYXMgbmFpbGVkIGl0IHNxdWFyZWx5IG9uIHRoZSBoZWFkLg0KUmlnCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogUGVyIEJveXNlbiA8cGVyYm95c2VuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4KVG86IExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBsb29wZXJzLWRlbGlnaHQuY29tIApTZW50OiBGcmlkYXksIE9jdG9iZXIgMTksIDIwMTIgMzowMyBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogQmEBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <1350651462.51534.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:57:42 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-820900331-604479694-1350651462=:51534" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:57:44 +0000 (UTC) ---820900331-604479694-1350651462=:51534 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can anyone say, "The Orb"? DJ Spooky, that subliminal kid? per has nailed it squarely on the head. Rig ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:03 AM Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Jack Cattedra wrote: > I highly recommend this album! It was produced by an L.A. artist known as > Madlib who IMHO is one of the illest loopers in modern music today. This > album was composed entirely of bass loops, and the rest of the tracks were > fully played out live. Madlib was not musically trained at the time, and > just played what he felt. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScXCUKY6dCg That clips sounds very cool to me! Makes me think about The Avelanges collage music. This cut and paste vibe fully directed by just listening to one's own taste is so nice! Many great musicians work hard to learn that and keep coming up with music theory based strategies... but creating such music really comes down to listening! I've heard this vibe resonating through Miles Davis music as well as a lot of DJ produced techno. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen ---820900331-604479694-1350651462=:51534 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Can anyone say, "The Orb"? DJ Spooky, that subliminal kid?








per has nailed it squarely on the head.
Rig
From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Jack Cattedra
<the_beat_conductor@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I highly recommend this album! It was produced by an L.A. artist known as
> Madlib who IMHO is one of the illest loopers in modern music today. This
> album was composed entirely of bass loops, and the rest of the tracks were
> fully played out live. Madlib was not musically trained at the time, and
> just played what he felt.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScXCUKY6dCg


That clips sounds very cool to me! Makes me think about The Avelanges
collage music. This cut and paste vibe fully directed by just
listening to one's own taste is so nice! Many great musicians work
hard to learn that and keep coming up with music theory based
strategies... but creating such music really comes down to listening!
I've heard this vibe resonating through Miles Davis music as well as a
lot of DJ produced techno.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen



---820900331-604479694-1350651462=:51534-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 13:12:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 722B418347C; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8yaQuqzLjSD388/RmYUgFRS31A9vtPTYJqramf3gTlA=; b=NGbWfJVA8ocb3QPz8lJItpNjdmkW4LoyM4IDwWIk/iIkA8UeU71Uj3Qg1ZPo1dAotE Rxl/5SCSVslwYahvxsxfm2VSvYhkSndJkZOiyHif3d5/hebrAftQbz6yyfxjmePoq7re KFoPoCEHh0aNe/gW2WKzsRFfSjM4Egt95bpdtWxfHYn3Zxvi7qtQBL2+uhvIArqRFt4L rY+J827KEYkzXpguhiOaDVufxGBB/ybYT/qLmD+r/e0LBYkGsPgU2lNcLa3AwltkzmN4 xVMLgB7uGJotX87Jd+bApx35Yl3aRi0EcZdtDJS9uz8ewUivxan37ccrfT9yUKBtySqq EThA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1350651462.51534.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1350502979.29159.YahooMailNeo@web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50803348.8030200@cruzio.com> <1350651462.51534.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:12:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:12:30 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:57 PM, bill bigrig wrote: > Can anyone say, "The Orb"? DJ Spooky, that subliminal kid? Yes, some good examples there of artists I meant. It's not surprising that music creators coming from a DJ background start out at an already very high level of listening and interpretational skills. They have never been exposed to the danger of depressing those natural instincts, as can happen to traditional musicians. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 15:15:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B162F183473; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF7C23AE052D75_1D10_4BF1_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37105-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF7C23AD5E8CEF-1D10-1281@webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.132.180] Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:15:16 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350659717; bh=Ft0q4BFKHJsQlpyo7vsZvX7J17Y9+qvmv1UDwMy6LzU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ApOojJjPOwWR5Zvn7fGjS1Yo4IfcXFnmJyNogQxPWmzUsRXAh5fjA6bd/0JZNDggz DsNcK2EfywkKvctgtapfIM2DsMrUCyD4FujvvU2Q94Db3NtvCfDAqDeHH8ADIElGP1 DfPjihzRe3CNaWahO4UFyPCv2BSIhQmqYds9AvUI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:466464640:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c950816e855ff4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:15:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF7C23AE052D75_1D10_4BF1_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" a question.....has LOOPING helped you in becoming more proficient at playin= g your instrument? my BFF mark sez: "but play loads of instuments so you can make a sound... q= uite often, thats all you need! One jab at a cello in the right place, one = blast of a trumpet or sax... a few notes of blues harp..." now i agree wit= h mark's statement but i often wonder after having looped for way too many = years, would i play guitar any "better" if i had not become ADDICTED to loo= ping.....please don't get me wrong, i have learned a lot about "MUSIC", har= mony, scales, etc. and more abstract ideas like what sounds fit together, d= ynamics, timing, etc.....but at the end of the day, do i play my main instr= ument any better?.....could i sit down with just my axe and give an audient= 31 minutes of goodness? better yet, questions like this are better not asked.....just go and play! =20 =20 ----------MB_8CF7C23AE052D75_1D10_4BF1_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
a question....= .has LOOPING helped = you in becoming more proficient at playing yo= ur instrument?


my BFF mark sez: "= but play loads of instuments so you can make a sound... quite often, thats = all you need! One jab at a cello in the right place, one blast of a trumpet= or sax... a few notes of blues harp..."  now i agree with mar= k's statement but i often wonder after having looped for way too many years= , would i play guitar any "better" if i had not become ADDICTED to looping.= ....please don't get me wrong, i have learned a lot about "MUSIC", harmony,= scales, etc. and more abstract ideas like what sounds fit together, dynami= cs, timing, etc.....but at the end of the day, do i play my main instrument= any better?.....could i sit down with just my axe and give an audient 31 m= inutes of goodness?

better yet= , questions like this are better not asked.....just go and play!
----------MB_8CF7C23AE052D75_1D10_4BF1_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 15:54:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F17B8183478; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=s9610aNwOAdLjfWefdRDTK07fNMDiGFcD1/IXiu7pjI=; b=aPCcJkCd0YW1qP7Cfuqpvcb6aIjEsHcuHIgZGq7I4QRZ0/13fPHWRcuIUhLqTyEMjf dcyovJaYLVm6En7X9WyYsPKyUr2rdETsrgLAGaZnhOF+tfjKhmwe9vRARXEfWNQ7pdpW sj2LyME3sNQb73BgVAtRlaLp1n/ekHjV3Vyssu80altCcFIjqDDgn/Ept39KqRpqQPK3 063VRNv7gw88BWMDP4/4eYkMvoqjHksRrbYW3fhhf/ctOJthXnFNuOAj1ZmhDdYoP3mB HlSwKxxcyvCzB6jiJkpNliPqdiX4kVemc9FahA8DzXyNz2PYtNMJ8nIgufpWljR3jX9z H2QA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:54:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04016cdb6ab12804cc6b836f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:54:06 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04016cdb6ab12804cc6b836f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, that's ok. I forgot to not make mine a two line joke. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --f46d04016cdb6ab12804cc6b836f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, that's ok. I forgot to not make mine a two line joke.=A0

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'lon rus= hing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:



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http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--f46d04016cdb6ab12804cc6b836f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 17:31:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D965183479; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50818E7E.2070007@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:31:42 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #811 for October 18, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:31:46 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121018.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #811 October 18, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=10-18-2012 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Aurora." X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6511E18347D; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 825423138/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.188.182/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.188.182 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8EAJirgVBV0ry2/2dsb2JhbAANOI4lsUABAQIBAQKEMAEBBDhAEQshFg8JAwIBAgFFHAGwRJNujyaDIwObQI1X X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,616,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="825423138" Message-ID: <5081AC27.6000702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:38:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:38:18 +0000 (UTC) don't worry, no-one's fooled anyway ;-) andy kay'lon rushing wrote: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 20:16:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89990183477; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:16:21 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Campbell CC: loopers-delight , davew@easystreet.net Subject: Re: Re: Any news on the LP1? References: <5080839B.2090008@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <5080839B.2090008@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:16:29 +0000 (UTC) The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay by one week, but I've been given 1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature laden) 1.39, to beta test. Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it now, as we speak. It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady workable LP-2 Mini Looper out to the market coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week have led to the delays. He's not shipping LP-2s. It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last night at touch the looper and I'll be using mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and enhance fidelity from the first iteration, so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, thankful to say. Rick Walker On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote: > > > Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixed on > that version citing that previously stable features had been broken. > (not the first time the upgrades had that issue). Some people say > 1.34 was the last stable version. That says something. (google: > 'looperlative 1.34 stable' ) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 20:17:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB43318347C; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5081B53F.5090200@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:17:03 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "kay'lon rushing" CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070104010908030309020005" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:17:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070104010908030309020005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/18/12 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: You live, you learn! --------------070104010908030309020005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 10/18/12 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:
You live, you learn!   <smile>
--------------070104010908030309020005-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 21:03:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F070B183477; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qz8QtsXoazmE6v4JEHHs78D132TObB3a0YQ1Zso3/64=; b=iXoa4Ktk3pg8PpieFhkO6OVBz5bTJblbMb4ZwBzaAtvuY1RUltGnozdCWxCUI5Kq8Y RRDCZE3wmNQ8snMIiBUmtPfA5MDXqiTnuyNeFrKMSmBOFNc+4pMW1+5IEY5IVZyGZHUR VraLVbSHFoebHkhm1ytd8GDw6FVPbMt62AsTqNFXz6vZVx+cGxiRuXUyzVlQjg6QcKVO +sZc/aONU2h2lzPZtz55hCMui1IOuq+AMxYPNEbqciJ4MYOs9oIiQlKrzgt10urKvRVa /uk+cr9yhhCJvyqfPswgisceJ3FO6vk7ghKHFjY4srshpQfSWqfjmA21PREd7A3C69Om k9xA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:03:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Mobius Output Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Hello Mobius users, Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with enough self deprecation for two or three people), Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 21:19:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EDDB18347C; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8pqOFDLNOa7IKCvBMNRkqU/hPUcZ/nJ8/A4Sk6dHq+M=; b=OqNXY4PxhCFh0LoWRKIdnAB9E17xMrAk4U+YtEy0d+ALFeqERCf+1HPknIHzvzFe9H ezgTN97dUTarrjsk4+Nqg4JFmpXueXiLsgAWF8e3kUsPWPDV+lQG3wVZCbmzB6agZVmk /KJ0Sgk56kFC+i2fxKWW52ZVeWn3koSkOjaNJIKOj5iklre8bJdsxoEdTjL8iDsa4Amz bFfFutkRDvbhGbEJXfKctX/kpUtEC2GRfKVmFptPuHrt5JnIahSsxN08s+mzawo9DzEh vqSo/u4UsDRe3uDdbUK+UE7ExIohyXJUIPRhdm8qqTunNMLNZt/YaDWvnuF0MupuiuBV Df8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:19:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:19:30 +0000 (UTC) The answer is yes. The method is to look under "Configuration / Track Setup / Tracks" and assign each output to where you want to send it. One thing to keep in mind is that in case you are running Mobius as a plugin you need to have opened the plugin as a "multi output plugin" for this to work. In some hosts you need to also create virtual mixer channels and "fetch" the multiple Mobius outputs to these channels. If you are running Mobius as a standalone application multiple outputs only works if you are using a sound card that offers several outputs. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hello Mobius users, > > Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual > loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick > answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd > prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully > in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. > > Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with > enough self deprecation for two or three people), > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 21:37:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDC9618347C; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 902 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:37:51 UTC X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.236.85;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:BY2PRD0410HT003.namprd04.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-BigFish: PS-4(zzbb2dI98dI9371I1432Izz1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz17326ah8275bh8275dhz2fh2a8h668h839h944he5bhf0ah107ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail85-co1: domain of sailpoint.com designates 157.56.236.85 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.236.85; envelope-from=jeff.larson@sailpoint.com; helo=BY2PRD0410HT003.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question Thread-Topic: Mobius Output Question Thread-Index: AQHNrj1ARGKx98IGD0K18MGOugyvw5fAz3IA Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:22:45 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.255.83.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <06B34625556FCC439C67611CFF7EE292@namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sailpoint.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels. If you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your audio interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to "pins" in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host. Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input and output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. They all default to 1. =20 For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, you'll have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton and Bidule both support this. Jeff On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" wrote: >Hello Mobius users, > >Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual >loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick >answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd >prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully >in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. > >Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >enough self deprecation for two or three people), > >Kevin > >--=20 >Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > >- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 21:50:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E5F418347C; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=z4qW80CqMLHKvmDmCGQOaGSoqBZOJuAfdGmR43+XJzw=; b=qSlcIkqX1mapK6Qbg8R0FCIfP4a430aobrQlzk2OiPLaPjH2wGQCh/eumUFOFW8SaP W6EbM+OKcqmHWuuZsI29wvTGk/dDNpGMSAPkT2/GafEh0i54uSpELvObWRFxZ2m42jWw I6uvJ1vWWrKTq6v6PqdPhQbimBl2SgQEEOmM/qjlMVdxwbFXVWtIln8nMFr5in4w6i2B XJYgQiu6lEytG0hG4lwgrRCmld0ZidgRaAvWApYiqBWlOM7M3H2Qb6RnnSy6vLm0MxFV /mNaCMz6vmRSplD0+lwPbomiGvVgWXcNUfWNY/1HZ0D/NQyafQPFs8Foiw0zhBlyUiXP KJ6w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:50:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3uILiC.A.kwF.sscgQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Thank you both, This is good news Kevin On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels. If > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your audio > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to "pins" > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host. > > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input and > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. They > all default to 1. > > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, you'll > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton and > Bidule both support this. > > Jeff > > > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" wrote: > >>Hello Mobius users, >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), >> >>Kevin >> >>-- >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 00:32:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A41618347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PhVqEhFG1sNl/MYo/zLMPxN3VCCQPVBwZ+kFJs4jTaM=; b=afgX1Fqd8hNP+kt4iKurCWrw4VmYu4xodJQisASJMLLBedEWpliHErml4184zvWvzb npn5byYvytmBIBhzVilxPErcsGwZYCbOnNt2z71PJlXbqSTwB/De1oQABnjwMOoGWKFk JcMunezfemdnPXYQxjGRAoFXDGfu6VnjOD84W9h4CKXTnZDeH16CkoPPQqILcmQK1ZDL j4pyRYcFEqhnoahAu3miodCL4kDItTOUmOvTLUGVxApqTi6/5+DE2DfadkNbCZTttpxc twzNK5GXzeObab4SUz+glSFIM4i21H1MG3oy+dXsrQuaMFUHeLcniwu5C9oKZEdRBDwO Jqkg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5081B53F.5090200@cruzio.com> References: <5081B53F.5090200@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:32:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f22c8891f05ab04cc72c0d5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:32:10 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f22c8891f05ab04cc72c0d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I forgot mine completely. :/ On Oct 19, 2012 1:17 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > > On 10/18/12 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > You live, you learn! --e89a8f22c8891f05ab04cc72c0d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I forgot mine completely.=A0 :/
On Oct 19, 2012 1:17 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
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> On 10/18/12 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:
>
> You live, you learn!=A0=A0 <smile>

--e89a8f22c8891f05ab04cc72c0d5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 00:33:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 305A118347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=i+X3AvAsF7pMy2ZZQJaBiDZZwY4rIwNjay8Ii7Mc4zY=; b=UxTBag7iW4cE9C8c4yAcy/m3TKDcoG/riVKl/1ZllNCD++9aCc/8orIDbvquqoeJzo nBq2GLOfJOQcs3UkT4m+F6kMS9ThIY56KXMaoO52lNTq5bPCxZnyCBDo5t1icF8me5yE Tbae9IzT5o1Tr/bEDJRfycn9cIhEYA2oBGKcdTm5/fdTw6SZv7Amy3637BKwT9JPm1/w pRyzBPQKLV3dpxPE/2QMQ9YGzJYkcYEkuFq+Q5sz7y44zinrO4IrAUpXnmAqgq/+pV8c 6R38iCV8X/feRchXiAbCVuoYgTF+vT2DtxnnFCaYruEEGw89nhrHnyZ8vTzHkYqsXV/f nwAw== Message-ID: <5081F158.3010607@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:33:28 -0700 From: 7stringjazz Reply-To: 7stringjazz@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any news on the LP1? References: <5080839B.2090008@pobox.com> <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlw+KBSv73D8V+LoO1VyfNnUS3lmEzOSvQ17+XP/E/iAlkJH2aF0gA2CMpXJSjnOSMSp1qC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Thanks guys, I have not used mine in months so was wondering what the status was. I did see that Bob made a drive by posting on Looperlative a few weeks ago and with Rick's news on 1.4 maybe we will see it soon. On 10/19/2012 1:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay by one week, but I've > been given > 1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature laden) > 1.39, to beta test. > Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it now, > as we speak. > > It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady workable > LP-2 Mini Looper out to the market > coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week > have led to the delays. > > He's not shipping LP-2s. It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last > night at touch the looper and I'll be using > mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and > enhance fidelity from the first iteration, > so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, > thankful to say. > > Rick Walker > > On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote: >> >> >> Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixed on >> that version citing that previously stable features had been broken. >> (not the first time the upgrades had that issue). Some people say >> 1.34 was the last stable version. That says something. (google: >> 'looperlative 1.34 stable' ) > > -- http://Soundclick.com/7stringjazz http://Soundcloud.com/7stringjazz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 00:35:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47A3218347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1350693307; bh=K9glYhpnPSbJowo2vvgbUgoRe08rg1GAu0x9OPoVyr0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=5JQXXRA3KpZNDrrlEZFSXTr7FXBMlLx7P3TdoN1eL5D7qhmeTYSFMWPpj7fFYJWEIh0bWIvujsx7cngUlKNEjG46ucKNmLcIoJcj3HSfHbkJN2qrPCewRcSwqsbOpX0hKGY2rUplcFPRwQSOs8MDKJ9eqTrEGm2Av6+B2T1lapk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 207903.24681.bm@smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: rsV1mgAVM1nB2KeQvEzoEfvc5ALoLuS8qJfbKNjfrhvcpP0 UFTDFLb8LuaSgNf.XKWWaU.LeqK3dhVaGlkXHuv1D8SlZ.JmnyRS10BDyrzx 0i.QVs7NmFceJRKPotttThKuWSnLcmanPZXwAVYa2y1wn0HxSFjM6Z.4YILI WPgEnfrJCFBKgtUtBgFhAE5M1fIHB.qD7qFKNK00wFwgaJXOVr8GzkezhlWf mqZ7FEWNJv8SBSwpS1C.fQ5qjWvrSJ8NZ2odrfA1u5pDrOYAE54JFfMw24v5 vj3PAaLzc9xHS02fT75IqyhOkfY2DbLj57i3APFo6qoyV_uee92TM0Da7u0b PtWhL80RRptW1UU9cl8qctJMftpCV3YiK9wA97UcxmNEwYhEZksk44CgxUih 2QqKGOqMe7qX9ETRjZ5stELRIXg_.QyZra3H_fTpPTPQ7sGc- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- From: Laurie Amat Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_99532BAE-9506-4C56-B87D-AA6687095BBD" Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:35:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <5081B53F.5090200@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <269896C9-01ED-4C19-8908-59DBAA51A7AC@att.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:35:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_99532BAE-9506-4C56-B87D-AA6687095BBD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Lindsey, I'm a gonna see you soon! Wicked! When are you coming? And are you staying? Laurie On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > I forgot mine completely. :/ > On Oct 19, 2012 1:17 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > > > > On 10/18/12 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > > > You live, you learn! --Apple-Mail=_99532BAE-9506-4C56-B87D-AA6687095BBD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Lindsey, 

I'm a gonna see you soon! Wicked!

When are you coming? And are you staying?

Laurie
On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote:

I forgot mine completely.  :/
On Oct 19, 2012 1:17 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
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> On 10/18/12 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:
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> You live, you learn!   <smile>


--Apple-Mail=_99532BAE-9506-4C56-B87D-AA6687095BBD-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 00:47:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B615018347E; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YBXNUFI+f8KC0whpdUAxDGXH3uJwQVnnHRkYR3yE3po=; b=Dye457s0+hO3FAbsFC1LN1T4xOCqqA3KaiuUxGU5L3gtg5buV2LIrdZAEQaKcNG5bn sIL60jlpBK/apVglXaOlc4MvPFakqXq82qB/6lvaQFKBqBit0/p1tgNtBG57Cjx3AFqd hQEfrJ8h499Vwgdf2WWbCJo3HQrIefswkaGzKYZKqJFCcvBzbTDVB5duHF59C3C95Zwd uOaBlcRwZNCutcsnWT4AyZDFydYjszWY76xLszxfzQcFpIjwSF9BldCcV6rIBy6S/3gH R0DSGvWaJpRTBhaN7B8ApL+CXPuaLJ8AzmsuyWpa24X9jR1T7qs5NDVw/icvme6DrneG uycg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <269896C9-01ED-4C19-8908-59DBAA51A7AC@att.net> References: <5081B53F.5090200@cruzio.com> <269896C9-01ED-4C19-8908-59DBAA51A7AC@att.net> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:47:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554df5ae250fd04cc72f65e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:47:28 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec554df5ae250fd04cc72f65e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm performing on Sunday and taking public transit from SF. I have not requested crash space but I probably should so I can stay for brunch. Hey Rick, is there room for me to stay over Sunday, pretty please? Lindsey On Oct 19, 2012 5:35 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > > Hi Lindsey, > > I'm a gonna see you soon! Wicked! > > When are you coming? And are you staying? > > Laurie > > On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > >> I forgot mine completely. :/ >> On Oct 19, 2012 1:17 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: >> > >> > On 10/18/12 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >> > >> > You live, you learn! > > --bcaec554df5ae250fd04cc72f65e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm performing on Sunday and taking public transit from SF.=A0 I hav= e not requested crash space but I probably should so I can stay for brunch.= =A0 Hey Rick, is there room for me to stay over Sunday, pretty please?=A0 <= br> Lindsey

On Oct 19, 2012 5:35 PM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
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> Hi Lindsey,=A0
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> I'm a gonna see you soon! Wicked!
>
> When are you coming? And are you staying?
>
> Laurie
>
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote:
>
>> I forgot mine completely.=A0 :/
>> On Oct 19, 2012 1:17 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 10/18/12 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:
>> >
>> > You live, you learn!=A0=A0 <smile>
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--bcaec554df5ae250fd04cc72f65e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 04:41:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A349418347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 04:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Y7g3oUUxYq19TMUQJTNPGG7o90zBtJBwAMuXvUfoFtM=; b=Vf7DSwv2ukj82qi413uM4ZMyXl540nc1/5HFAH/EqIjxMNldv2NbMZW/xjMsMwBHiz sUDqF3A5dWwRxGkLPT1Ma5DZQOyoWIXIPmAmyo9WrtWjm3TM6cgm5KPC+9acZNMR+93v UQR75/aB27yp/j2d79OB0KHPigyhKHLKpCA2utwXqRG+LFUKbYVu0gaLyLtr5NQweqkL FxN/J6UpPuRNpK6hOmshWMmsizpE9RUNhIr+H9hV5Hps3svIBLf1qAJODimPhxgvjmtp nQ3y30tzVjlbY4ZJX15Z2dJDIA6pxMAOLNN+sKgccid3yTf0OoOAXEET3+DofDVJpE9Y UPng== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:41:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <0IDamD.A.fpB.HuigQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 04:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? Thanks, Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go forward). On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels. If > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your audio > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to "pins" > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host. > > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input and > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. They > all default to 1. > > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, you'll > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton and > Bidule both support this. > > Jeff > > > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" wrote: > >>Hello Mobius users, >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), >> >>Kevin >> >>-- >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 04:45:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2184518347A; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 04:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CV49LTbBxmUuKepHmn/4G7ZtunM9jIL45SogxXkHSog=; b=FOMgGIK/1rIx1pOfDGDAhT9FTjnaVsCRRIGzVeBQvY+gIM73SxsyEYY6N+wTczTgM7 BwD7aimm7b7riBsYs/kollnkxNfM7PhC+jMp8lykLivrDm4SQ34BiSFOjaTnds6rRRs5 JZWxav35PDClGeZR4UQiE0j4ZEpssj6j7H35KLQuDR+rPB9ykj/EGvfEUrp75K4MgDqf 9z0RTZawzYawJskixsF2Wm+T4iFqCNCQHC2NxgVHEDRMP+1WiakXMoe6jLPwCR6BISV2 FgRYQ7280ZdBo3+mM5MTSCqkqF7qs3jHZoUnspBcPIsn4Z1AAhuUoyJ4g7bAOztP/h6y TkJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:45:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9d7181a8c8c0104cc764868 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 04:45:03 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9d7181a8c8c0104cc764868 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Typically, you assign the ins in Clip view, just below the row of clips. "Audio From" or "Midi From". Does Mobius support rewire? If not, you may have to use something like sound flower. T On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem > to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track > settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I > can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. > Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? > > Thanks, > > Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go forward). > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson > wrote: > > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels. > If > > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your audio > > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to > "pins" > > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host. > > > > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input and > > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. They > > all default to 1. > > > > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers > > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, > you'll > > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not > > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton and > > Bidule both support this. > > > > Jeff > > > > > > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" wrote: > > > >>Hello Mobius users, > >> > >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual > >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick > >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd > >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully > >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. > >> > >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with > >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), > >> > >>Kevin > >> > >>-- > >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > >> > >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >> > >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --14dae9d7181a8c8c0104cc764868 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Typically, you assign the ins in Clip view, just below the row of clips. &q= uot;Audio From" or "Midi From". Does Mobius support rewire? = If not, you may have to use something like sound flower.

T

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin = Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite s= eem
to figure out how to get this to work in Live. =A0I've gone to the trac= k
settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I
can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live?

Thanks,

Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go forward).

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
> Mobius tracks are assign= ed "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels. =A0If
> you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your au= dio
> interface. =A0If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to = "pins"
> in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host.=
>
> Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. =A0There are four, input= and
> output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. = =A0They
> all default to 1.
>
> For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port number= s
> correspond to the physical connections on the device. =A0For plugins, = you'll
> have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. =A0Many hosts do not=
> support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. =A0Ableto= n and
> Bidule both support this.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hello Mobius users,
>>
>>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual
>>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? =A0I'm not finding = a quick
>>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd<= br> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefull= y
>>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask.
>>
>>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >>enough self deprecation for two or three people),
>>
>>Kevin
>>
>>--
>>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to ha= ve a
>>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all t= rouble.
>>
>>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>
>>Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
>>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>
>>
>
>



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos




--
= http://toaster.ba= ndcamp.com
--14dae9d7181a8c8c0104cc764868-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 05:18:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 668BB18347E; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=SNkE1X2oMmaGfUNtU/gzk+R532ZwcwkxbRPr7aWYdd8=; b=LBeSQudW1hjCtb4WTeLTRvK4bZHcKdxiOCv8mEr+6JyDBgmxmNlKJPMFdtJIzQwLJZ ziZpRusqEwUXfAMI9tmyiRKWel+PcBU6JN05YflZzotWlGSfMd3Ts7AugbD1WbKABGUU qco9VVSwHWPJfdr3GkDFacODFgo7IMrfd6DncBLU+GSKN6miuKVWmYKxtaMSBbagnLLi Bqw5lKrOf3q/g7tIm2Hlo8sUiLtohyGiREygQHGNui5vvLImRJ5cL/lTMtOhcS066ffc qvpfVWVVal3LGvnfqPToRiNV7hT9NQS62YEeM8QxT4NS+4VnmdE8mn1LvYpp39jxDF4C MZ9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:18:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3B6jLagsNfPe5IdIfp1ptGzf5CE Message-ID: Subject: mobius focus lock track group question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c81ee79993e04cc76c0cc Resent-Message-ID: <3tWBlD.A.1MC.rQjgQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:18:35 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c81ee79993e04cc76c0cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi there, I know that, on Mobius, there is the option called "Groups can have Focus Lock", which lets me mute Group A, but not B. I'm wondering -- is there a way to map that parameter to a MIDI control, so as to trigger this feature on and off with a foot pedal? thank you! warmly, Ljova -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom --f46d043c81ee79993e04cc76c0cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi there,

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On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> = wrote:

I just had both an = audio upgrade and switch upgrade done by this guy. http://jhv3.squarespace.com/= m9-mods/
 I cannot say enough good things about his = work. I had been seriously considering moving on to a more audiophile = but less versatile  delay like the strymon time line  before = having these mods done but now I see no need. The signal path is cleaner = and more transparent, the noise floor is reduced, it now has variable = output gain, the algorithms have less digital grit and of course the = switches are hardwired, smooth as silk and accurate. i will have the = same thing done to my M-5 eventually. One thing it did not cure was the = loop degradation  that Jeff Duke described when going in to reverse =  while in overdub mode at a point other than the beginning or = ending of the loop, that i believe is a software issue they never = fixed.
 Bill



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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="673831718-515843115-1349995011=:65668" Resent-Message-ID: <0vsg2C.A.H3E.Eo0dQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:36:52 +0000 (UTC) --673831718-515843115-1349995011=:65668 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's good to see this updated info. on the LP-2 (and also in some of the mo= re recent forum posts)... However, some of the specific info. I'm looking for seems to not be availab= le yet. =A0So I was wondering if any LP-2 users/testers here could enlighte= n me: 1) The 'Usage Guide' (at=A0http://looperlative.posterous.com/ ) talks about= being able to mix the dry vs. looped signal. The best image I can find (= =A0http://www.musikmachen.de/var/musikmachen/storage/images/equipment/news/= zwei-neue-looper-von-looperlative/2094668-2-ger-DE/Zwei-neue-Looper-von-Loo= perlative_front_page_teaser.jpg ) seems to show one 1/4" input and one 1/4"= output. So I'm wondering if the output is stereo (like on my RiffBox)? I *= need* the ability to feed a guitar signal in and always split the output, s= o that 1 side is 100% loop (which can go to further processing) while the o= ther side is 100% dry (i.e. my guitar playing - which can go to separate ef= fects processing). 2) The Usage Guide says that "Using the SDHC card for audio storage results= in a few rules about audio recording and overdubbing". The most interestin= g of these is that some SD cards may not be fast enough to read the incomin= g audio. This begs the question of whether it's possible to not record to t= he SD card (say if you don't want to retrieve your loop later). =A0Is there= a mode where you simply record your loop straight into the pedal, which ca= n play the loop back with 100% reliability? 3) Can the MIDI out port also be configured as a Thru? =A0Since I'd always = be synching the LP-2 to a drum machine's MIDI clock, I'd like to pass the M= IDI clock through to another effects processor. 4) What are the dimensions of the LP-2? Thanks for any additional info. that can be given on this=A0beguiling=A0box= !=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A - Jim --- On Thu, 10/4/12, Tim Thompson wrote: From: Tim Thompson Subject: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, October 4, 2012, 12:44 PM They've really been holding up well and they have to work, I"m going to =0Ado my entire performance =0Awith them at Y2K12 in two weeks time People will also be able to play with the LP-2 when Rick demonstrates it at= the "Touch the Loopers" event (Oct 18). =0A=A0 =A0 =A0...Tim...=A0=0A --673831718-515843115-1349995011=:65668 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's good to see this updated info. on the LP= -2 (and also in some of the more recent forum posts)...

= However, some of the specific info. I'm looking for seems to not be availab= le yet.  So I was wondering if any LP-2 users/testers here could enlig= hten me:

1) The 'Usage Guide' (at http://loop= erlative.posterous.com/ ) talks about being able to mix the dry vs. looped = signal. The best image I can find ( http://www.musikmachen.de/var/musi= kmachen/storage/images/equipment/news/zwei-neue-looper-von-looperlative/209= 4668-2-ger-DE/Zwei-neue-Looper-von-Looperlative_front_page_teaser.jpg ) see= ms to show one 1/4" input and one 1/4" output. So I'm wondering if the outp= ut is stereo (like on my RiffBox)? I *need* the ability to feed a guitar si= gnal in and always split the output, so that 1 side is 100% loop (which can= go to further processing) while the other side is 100% dry (i.e. my guitar pl= aying - which can go to separate effects processing).

<= div>2) The Usage Guide says that "Using the SDHC card for audio storage res= ults in a few rules about audio recording and overdubbing". The most intere= sting of these is that some SD cards may not be fast enough to read the inc= oming audio. This begs the question of whether it's possible to not record = to the SD card (say if you don't want to retrieve your loop later).  I= s there a mode where you simply record your loop straight into the pedal, w= hich can play the loop back with 100% reliability?

3) Can the MIDI out port also be configured as a Thru?  Since I'd alw= ays be synching the LP-2 to a drum machine's MIDI clock, I'd like to pass t= he MIDI clock through to another effects processor.

4) What are the dimensions of the LP-2?

Thanks for any additional info. that can be= given on this beguiling box!
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A

- Jim


--- On Thu, 10/4/12,= Tim Thompson <me@timthompson.com> wrote:

From: Tim Thompson <me@timthompson.com>
Subject: R= e: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Date: Thursday, October 4, 2012, 12:44 PM


They've really been holding up well and they have to work= , I"m going to
=0Ado my entire performance
=0Awith them at Y2K12 in t= wo weeks time

People will also be able = to play with the LP-2 when Rick demonstrates it at the "Touch the Loopers" = event (Oct 18).

=0A     ...Tim...&n= bsp;
=0A
--673831718-515843115-1349995011=:65668-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 23:26:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C8D418345A; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=MLcL9CoDjIJjRwHHuiw91nPERwNMtsTua+NNCQlfLBE=; b=mx3XGmc9eqDUA7zTuUXivziZXDw96l1an9e2uSrVsY4dq4RSKh6eEEyBhXn/NSpnln k+LCvLJi/bi+the2MOl1vEEwh++8RicSx7EKvo8p9zGcbgmmljSPW9V54EgdvW9oRNCE Dy3KTcBzDaa1FfQZDC0i3J7hTpcxj1Gbi8TgvkLkhOw5zM7E/vX7EH8Q/sckIsjSyTfi HSrH4fP8WAnMXlrnAZTVGMDreMrMMKi/40icO787L3Wv1p4W4swiCrD0UC36HHdGD1F2 ciJtHs29dkvQVO11OpbF8pYuMVB8IMUnmICx+yr8IWnG6gILH5mGucQvgYk9b6bcH75y OjkA== References: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <054C0E62-5CA0-413C-B722-36D754244635@baymoon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-07FC36D1-34EF-427D-83C2-BACC6BE06A61 Message-Id: <360FC720-3820-4A52-ADF0-87CD5E546DCE@teddyjam.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A403) From: "Teddyjam.com" Subject: Re: Line 6 M-9 mods Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:26:32 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnUInVTHRTlF54tx0h09LFY/cBo1A7V+OtMyJvDcP3sarKwJLp3+Y12ehu2hxIbYOcUjRqx Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:26:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-07FC36D1-34EF-427D-83C2-BACC6BE06A61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had it done too... It's excellent. I feel the switch upgrade is more needed than the audio upgrade. The audio u= pgrade takes some getting used to. Some delays wont work the same, mostly th= e lofi and tube delay non through versions... They get more signal from inpu= t and react differently than before, i.e. more distorted if you use the driv= e. But it wasn't a big deal to me to switch to the through versions. While you're sending it in you might as well get both done. It does sound be= tter. Teddy Kumpel http://teddyjam.com On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, William Walker wrote:= > I just had both an audio upgrade and switch upgrade done by this guy. http= ://jhv3.squarespace.com/m9-mods/ > I cannot say enough good things about his work. I had been seriously cons= idering moving on to a more audiophile but less versatile delay like the st= rymon time line before having these mods done but now I see no need. The si= gnal path is cleaner and more transparent, the noise floor is reduced, it no= w has variable output gain, the algorithms have less digital grit and of cou= rse the switches are hardwired, smooth as silk and accurate. i will have the= same thing done to my M-5 eventually. One thing it did not cure was the loo= p degradation that Jeff Duke described when going in to reverse while in o= verdub mode at a point other than the beginning or ending of the loop, that i= believe is a software issue they never fixed. > Bill >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-07FC36D1-34EF-427D-83C2-BACC6BE06A61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had it done too..= . It's excellent.

I feel the switch upgrade is more needed than the audio upgrade. The a= udio upgrade takes some getting used to. Some delays wont work the same, mos= tly the lofi and tube delay non through versions... They get more signal fro= m input and react differently than before, i.e. more distorted if you use th= e drive. But it wasn't a big deal to me to switch to the through versions.

While you'= re sending it in you might as well get both done. It does sound better.

Teddy Kumpel

On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
=
I just had both an audio upgrade and switch upgrade done by this g= uy. http://jhv3.square= space.com/m9-mods/
 I cannot say enough good things about= his work. I had been seriously considering moving on to a more audiophile b= ut less versatile  delay like the strymon time line  before having= these mods done but now I see no need. The signal path is cleaner and more t= ransparent, the noise floor is reduced, it now has variable output gain, the= algorithms have less digital grit and of course the switches are hardwired,= smooth as silk and accurate. i will have the same thing done to my M-5 even= tually. One thing it did not cure was the loop degradation  that Jeff D= uke described when going in to reverse  while in overdub mode at a poin= t other than the beginning or ending of the loop, that i believe is a softwa= re issue they never fixed.
 Bill


= --Apple-Mail-07FC36D1-34EF-427D-83C2-BACC6BE06A61-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 08:58:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C148E183463; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 01:58:16 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:58:21 +0000 (UTC) This thread got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin), but I thought it was germane for everyone in this community to read (and perhaps some others would want to participate, both as artists and possibly festival producers): Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinating a summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, Norwhich and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and also in Tokyo, Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More Rick Walker: Michael? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? David? Ryusei? Hideki? Randolf? Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation marks! Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters Rick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! Georgina! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick! Michael Peters: that's more like it !! Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ... Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam, Thailand, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in Scandinavia, but the names I've mentioned have all said that they want to officially expand the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with festivals under that umbrella name. I think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Loopers Delight was created) that we are talking about such a scope. The coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modicum of money and a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through the internet (and the various festivals, of course) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 09:19:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 413E8183463; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 02:19:11 -0700 Subject: Y2K12 PERFORMERS Updated MAIN FESTIVALl Schedule rev 9.0 From: looppool@cruzio.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:19:14 +0000 (UTC) MAIN FESTIVAL PERFORMANCE SCHEDULE rev 9.0 Y2K12 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL MAIN FESTIVAL 120 PEARL ALLEY STUDIOS SANTA CRUZ STAGE 1 is on the right hand side of the room as you enter it. STAGE 2 is, well, you get it. IMPORTANTLY: Please do NOT change stages without checking with Rick or Maha no matter what happens! Later performances depend on specific locations.  FRIDAY,OCTOBER 19th OPENING NIGHT 8:00  SHANNON HAYDEN stg 1 8:30  JEAN-PAUL DE ROOVER stg 2 9:00 JD DEVROS stg 1 9:30  MOE! STAIANO  stg 2 10:00 AMY X NEUBURG stg 1 10:30 SYLVIAN POITRAS stg 2 11:00 LUCA FORMENTINI (ITALY) stg 1 ******************************************************************************************** SATURDAY, DAY & NIGHT October 20 12:30 BRIAN BIBIGHAUS stg 2 1:00  JERRY BARNES stg 1 1:30  BUDDHAB RAD stg 2 2:00  DAVID VAN BRINK stg 1 2:30  ADDAM ANTIUM stg 2 3:00  GRANT STONER stg 1 3:30  STEVE UCCELLO stg 2 4:00  TIM MUNGENAST  stg 1 4:30  DISANOVA stg 2 5:00  STANOSAUR stg 1 5:30 DANIEL ROBBINS stg 2 6:00  CARL WEINGARTEN stg 1 6:30  ERIC GLICK RIEMAN stg 2 7:00  KRISPEN HARTUNG stg 1 & AARON DAVIS 7:30  HANS LINDAUER aka TR-187 stg 2 --DINNER BREAK-- HEADLINERS CONCERT 9:30  WHOOLILICIOUS stg 1 10:15 MENTAL 99 w/JOE GORE stg 2 11:15 PHILIPP ZURCHER(SWITZERLAND) stg 1 *************************************************************************************** SUNDAY, DAY & NIGHT OCTOBER 21st 12:30 BOB AMSTADT stg 2 1:00  TODD ELLIOTT stg 1 1:30  tba stg 2 2:00  K3Z (Kay'lon Rushing) stg 1 2:30  LINDSEY WALKER stg 2 3:00  RAMIN RAHNI stg 1 3:30  MICHAEL DINUBILA stg 2 4:00  3X09 (Michael Carlson) stg 1 4:30  TIMOTHY CROWE stg 2 5:00  PETE NOVEMBRE stg 1 5:30  DANIEL LEWIS stg 2 6:00  CINDY WEYUKER SAW stg 1 --DINNER BREAK-- 8:00 BILL WALKER stg 2 8:30  MANDOMAN (JAPAN) stg 1 9:00  PAUL HASLEM (CANADA) stg 2 9:30  JOHN CONNELL stg 1 10:00 EMMANUEL REVENEAU stg 2 10:30 BARRY CLEVELAND stg 1 11:00 LAURIE AMAT stg 2 w/Rick Walker ********************************************************************************************* MONDAY, OCTOBER 22nd ANNUAL LOOPERS BRUNCHEON WALNUT AVENUE CAFE 106 Walnut Ave. Santa Cruz "1:00 p.m. until we are talked out" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 10:11:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 891EE183462; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=86xYT0JRikBNQZahvehRHDn256FIY7u5CKbeY+tPlxU=; b=Nnjhiw/cNn4ikHfspjvllesxdCfoCLcug/jHWGcfyuLhdZ7RisTxIpAHE4/Ddy8v/r +soR4GMSvGLYi3FvFu4NE0kDTs1Tx+PPIkPg7gYHWKarV1ob6sB+mqzJPjnzIhHVYszQ LCOCs4jSCRtU9sJFK3rDbqBQPkwordj1erzOXcywVSmBCXOYxnR+cJ2f8eCq5tV3A9fK zmtdj7QjRD12HIMsNEaM2dH7KMAByBDRpPjfbiFMsbv8h4ShDNJwzh5m7/KoqDTfLilS ZVHqBesqIhMMGRUkwPBjtEVmkLEQ6cdIabMq39+Uo172mT95zNNdf7aWC9BL1g4N9eaU CLwQ== Message-ID: <5077ECE0.2010705@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:11:44 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K12 PERFORMERS Updated MAIN FESTIVALl Schedule rev 9.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Am 12.10.2012 11:19, schrieb looppool@cruzio.com: > MAIN FESTIVAL PERFORMANCE SCHEDULE rev 9.0 > > > Y2K12 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL MAIN FESTIVAL > 120 PEARL ALLEY STUDIOS SANTA CRUZ I believe I speak for many of us when I ask: will there be a video stream coverage? If not, would someone be able to whip one up? I'm looking in the general direction of veterans here (if you're even attending): Krispen Hartung, Chris Roberts, Bob Armstad etc... Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 11:53:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4410183474; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:53:12 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? References: <1349995011.65668.YahooMailClassic@web163103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1349995011.65668.YahooMailClassic@web163103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:53:18 +0000 (UTC) On 10/11/12 3:36 PM, Jim Bjorklun wrote: > > So I'm wondering if the output (sic, LP-2) is stereo (like on my > RiffBox)? > *mono only*, > > 2) The Usage Guide says that "Using the SDHC card for audio storage > results in a few rules about audio recording and overdubbing". The > most interesting of these is that some SD cards may not be fast enough > to read the incoming audio. This begs the question of whether it's > possible to not record to the SD card (say if you don't want to > retrieve your loop later). Is there a mode where you simply record > your loop straight into the pedal, which can play the loop back with > 100% reliability? > *The SD is completely reliable and holds up to 8 tracks. These can be imported into a computer and effected and returned to the card to be able to play on the unit. It ships with a 4 gig card that has been tested specifically to work with the unit. You merely buy that exact same card and you are golden. * > > 3) Can the MIDI out port also be configured as a Thru? Since I'd > always be synching the LP-2 to a drum machine's MIDI clock, I'd like > to pass the MIDI clock through to another effects processor. > *I don't use a lot of midi in my life so I'm not 100% of this answer, > but it's always been my > understanding that if you put midi into a unit and send it out that > you can daisy chain things. > > Am I incorrect here.........Bill Walker would know because he uses the > LP-2 to control a lot of his downstream devices (other loopers, > digital delays, other time based effects. * > > 4) What are the dimensions of the LP-2? > *It is just minisculey larger than a DL-4* > > Thanks for any additional info. that can be given on this beguiling box! > > - Jim > > > --- On *Thu, 10/4/12, Tim Thompson //* wrote: > > > From: Tim Thompson > Subject: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, October 4, 2012, 12:44 PM > > > They've really been holding up well and they have to work, I"m > going to > do my entire performance > with them at Y2K12 in two weeks time > > > People will also be able to play with the LP-2 when Rick > demonstrates it at the "Touch the Loopers" event (Oct 18). > > ...Tim... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 12:41:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FB07183476; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50780FDA.4040606@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:40:58 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #810 for October 11, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:41:17 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121011.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #810 October 11, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=10-11-2012 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Into the Matrix." http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct I also played music by artists who will appear at the Soundscapes Concert Series and at the Gatherings. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Genetique Hydrogen Evolution Submerge (none) Ian Boddy The Mystic Chiasmata (DiN) Ian Boddy Chiasmata Chiasmata (DiN) Parallel Worlds and Oblivion Morphogenic (DiN) Dave Bessell Craig Padilla and Timelessness When the Earth Is Far Away Zero Ohms (Lotuspike) Mystified and Phase 2 Suns (Phonospheric) Seetyca 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Modulator ESP Into the Matrix Into the Matrix (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Aurora." WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-10-18 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 17:50:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB4A6183474; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=VYaEpzSkSxgp/eP2ST2nHor1KMxApI8ZCXhPCXZMY8E=; b=lI4wcsnUiPNYyaQnEAJimWh3Eo88OKwBbXk18DUY6th59XfBw0f4EoPG7ZqGXCdtRE ZDeRjn1OzE5HvaQ9bmmC7vp2r8PE6VVzcMu68oZVRtyF+2QPKEtgbRqPVzJt3QaIA19n bvIV7WC2McZ17i9Y0L8iqWxh6Sqm7pOAm0+iW/BvxNpzWrOVtYs/UBT0aUc+RjNGsUiA oQj5TeP8tprjYnNC7vP6i/V/7i6fa9SC105m5FV7TqfObokOSACO8vrNjNrDqSpM0s0y wgIfrRwNbzuChO+piZcSfYBWhdgtMRmrQcuibYwUyY+lTyqHFTmDcKXrgewFmyIPCEPF 8Gow== Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) References: <20121009032540.A605C183462@arsenic.violacea.com> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1D73A82A-D21D-43BF-B2C4-333FC2B8D006@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:50:11 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:50:19 +0000 (UTC) This sort of thing also becomes trickier when responding to messages on the f= ly - like when you're parked in a Denny's parking lot using the wifi for a f= ew minutes before hitting the road again. Jean-Paul De Roover (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com *Sent from my phone.* On 2012-10-09, at 6:52 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:46 AM, wrote: >> Once every year or so, I get bitchy about this phenomenon and the proble= m >> always comes creeping back. >=20 > For a balanced view on this one may also note that not trimming is > polite and helpful for an email reader that doesn't have access to > previous posts in a thread. Some mailing lists recommend members to > quote just enough of earlier correspondance so a new reader can kind > of get a general understanding of what the thread is about. >=20 > I suspect many users on this list don't even know how much of previous > posts are quoted in their own posts because they are using modern > email applications that just shows you the stuff recently added (still > keeping older text hidden in the email document). >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 18:40:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E64BB183476; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trufun.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=p0f2PTGMu1vKEyX50K0keOwFNAVC1X+t7VlvvwjGaFk=; b=P1n5yw3DH0VfzrZhONXg8rJc9UOUkLCe8+gufs+ND4ozie/MH6MZA8Io6m7kddU4INu4HB5QJ5hPpc5W11mnv/NsgAyFjNZWKkV59BwMn2e30naeFfN2/PFSM+y2owkm; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <1D73A82A-D21D-43BF-B2C4-333FC2B8D006@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:40:18 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20121009032540.A605C183462@arsenic.violacea.com> <1D73A82A-D21D-43BF-B2C4-333FC2B8D006@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <5ItV.A.MJ.YQGeQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Good point. It's really hard to select bits of text on an iPhone. On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Jean-Paul De Roover = wrote: > This sort of thing also becomes trickier when responding to messages = on the fly - like when you're parked in a Denny's parking lot using the = wifi for a few minutes before hitting the road again. David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 18:51:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A577C183474; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:51:43 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kevinkissinger.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=CH5xPcpHK7tFrMqzaVrdcWMzAtx9/ooqv3DEeLTVVQA=; b=s54GnOcw2g3xfe1vgvBzzBmah6s1jK4K/cmputWSIfhd7pKcYx3UAJvyErkubu+DMgrrJziTI2LkarTzXo5Tq6OffpVaHFUN+e/4Ls3MXuO6VO5vsbTOXSVmhowuBcaK; Message-ID: <20121012134441.195669y3aupdi715@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:44:41 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Trimming posts &/or taking it off list (was Re: US Tour dates to and from Y2KX+2) References: <20121009032540.A605C183462@arsenic.violacea.com> <1D73A82A-D21D-43BF-B2C4-333FC2B8D006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.11) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Those trim pots can be a real pain. Often I have to drill extra holes in my PCBs if I don't have the exact sized trimpot in my stock. Oh wait... trim posts .... Never mind. :) Quoting David Gans : > > Good point. It's really hard to select bits of text on an iPhone. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 19:30:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50813183474; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 907500.49966.bm@omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350070222; bh=AluKJBOuIaSlfSS28pp1IFeYWK1UZsnQlc+4bVPfwnA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YsgyXWor0fXLyXJ9GvkIpelLD5P55b3mIP7kf+T51cimz6xyPQDcq9+NkdfwbRXPqlKJonv+wFoZNyFA/hFXStn10Xw4qqoK1lo54diQDpeFjHFvSjTFHLLsC6lbPGcKDOaJz7i+oS6iotCy0Yawf6bEvBcBDHqw8IxorK/ku3U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2g+rk3FrmW/BHA/MabqJ6vtByS7Dq7RCcDSzuDTwGWA/zuR/yCm0Vsji2E68+MRhnSMXHTOX5VFS/zhdr7cyC+vwEy6vGTxYt6Gqu9hiW354lcQTLshP4bs1nSZ0xnpNOJqOQNUzQVPL5Se7Rnau5L4Bp74yeFa4o9q9vtHdwnk=; X-YMail-OSG: XZaLbh4VM1lfo99_8yD0fzD2VtRYs0eAbletZpxWnX_P5My FYMWERMA7k0hxFouM_48hTV8Bk_4Jc5KWcNAIXP.lI4lQGPX3e78zeefN2Cy Q9mHBzK1TSzsLeSkDntmDdd6_7itlFS_2VQncthQdQRqCWSLWyk5mhyNGlnA Bk_YtsRmODeFfH1wfYhzl9REoZBjtKHCyItaE07NlqqaAaZehwc69wsqilJQ rG7K_6Ia.4cGAYXwBj5GMffFmIeGvpm_3viH9qOcRNjw4o4N1YTDKZ_QjDGJ gQ8J7j1xQsNYRjhIRRKM63_50SROX2jt0FWXwUKr3XRi8EkIOQSL2Vvjl0cc FNSdwTaeF6GaY.XY_TdytouoLzpE8K5HPgqqSJiwWv7LViomyE8BfkI_DAjU ivLkHLwyLy3kIPI.hsX9r7EpXVyb5g2zODACvSDmPNfnv.TcKhZL5WviWEo. 6KA2Cybcqb2idVYxyst570mohiTJux5wSdjqYwl_jxj2mSvYy6AjjS3.weVn C4m_lSabswUONguTWAmgAEz93DooXxDzsUJu51pFhrUnrAp9cicIL2JdsYZO 9lwSOSJbcn1ovQkECvohP6OZHyhBPa.9lbfA- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,U291bmRzIEVQSUMhIMKgQXdlc29tZSB0byBzZWUgdGhlIGZlc3QgZXhwYW5kaW5nIHNvIHdpZGVseSwgYW5kIHByb3VkIGl0IHN0YXJ0ZWQgaW4gb3VyIGxpdHRsZSBuZWNrIG9mIHRoZSB3b29kcyEgQ29uZ3JhdHMgdG8gUmljayBhbmQgdG8gYWxsIGludm9sdmVkISBTdGV2ZSBVY2NlbGxvCgoKd3d3LmNsYXJpZmllZGJpcmRzLmNvbSDCoAEwAQEBAQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <1350070222.30940.YahooMailNeo@web121205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:30:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Reply-To: Steve Uccello Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1078491548-1920032919-1350070222=:30940" Resent-Message-ID: <_MVqdB.A.Iz.Q_GeQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:30:24 +0000 (UTC) --1078491548-1920032919-1350070222=:30940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds EPIC! =A0Awesome to see the fest expanding so widely, and proud it s= tarted in our little neck of the woods! Congrats to Rick and to all involve= d! Steve Uccello=0A=0A=0Awww.clarifiedbirds.com =A0 --1078491548-1920032919-1350070222=:30940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds EPIC!  Aw= esome to see the fest expanding so widely, and proud it started in our litt= le neck of the woods! Congrats to Rick and to all involved! Steve Uccello


www.clarifiedbirds= .com  

ht= tp://iamdanielheartsthis.tumblr.com/post/33495083017/loves-my-pedaltrain-an= d-bossloop-rc50-taken

For my solo sets now, after the pedals I run into the Micro Cube and th= en the line-out from that into the Peavey practice bass amp (15w). It sound= s so sweet. That guitar you can catch the back of is my 1998 Ibanez Blazer = II. The big yellow pedal is a Guitar Star made by Michael Blackmer. It'= s a compression/gain deal (and that smaller yellow box in the back is it= 9;s power supply...yeah).




On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:47 PM,= Theweg <theweg@gmail.com> wrote:
Good news! I have a 1st round LP2 and have some issu= es, I do like it but it has not made my pedalboard due to those issue.


Sent from my iPad

On Oct= 11, 2012, at 12:21 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

I t= hink that my life will be complete the day I get to hear and see
Ted Kil= lian's rig in action: I counted TWELVE expression pedals in
there = =85 :-) =85


Ted I've got expression pedal envy:= -0)
=A0Bill


=A0ps, this is my r= ig, which gets occasionally augmented by a Zvex box o rock or a zendrive pe= dal, and a flashback delay, and re arranged for ergonomic considerations. w= hen I get a free moment I'll post some of my other pedal board that spo= rts my pedals for more conventional gigs, and now has a Looperlative LP-2 o= n it. I'm sorry i haven't been very responsive to inquiries about t= he LP-2, I did the lion's share =A0of the beta testing down the home st= retch and =A0at the same time I've been working like a mad man, gigging= and teaching, finishing up the final details =A0of my new CD and just abou= t to release a collaboration with Erdem Helvacioglu, so time has been scarc= e . Like Rick said its working great, Bob is beginning to ship them, and bo= th he and I will be getting about the business of making some tutorial vids= once Y2K12 is over.

--047d7b621e92c0885704cbf1ac82-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 13 19:16:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D7BE183464; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_66be8383-044e-4c39-9ba3-dc9863fb2800_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:16:25 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<0BA01230-3B02-4DFF-B020-96CC4EA22FEE@gmail.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2012 19:16:26.0927 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DF4D3F0:01CDA977] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:16:28 +0000 (UTC) --_66be8383-044e-4c39-9ba3-dc9863fb2800_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used to own one that Peavey practice bass amp along with a rare 1972 fend= er p-bass/squire=2C the sound was god-like! I took it to a local guitar sho= p one day and the owner offered me a NEW fender squire with bag and a fuck = load of picks. I was young and naive at the time so I went for the exchange= =2C besides=2C NEW is always better right? LOLL I found out a week later=2C the man is selling this fender for over $1000. L . O . L :( Date: Sat=2C 13 Oct 2012 10:32:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Show us your pedalboard/looping setup :) From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Here's my current pedal line-up: http://iamdanielheartsthis.tumblr.com/post= /33495083017/loves-my-pedaltrain-and-bossloop-rc50-taken=20 For my solo sets now=2C after the pedals I run into the Micro Cube and then= the line-out from that into the Peavey practice bass amp (15w). = --_66be8383-044e-4c39-9ba3-dc9863fb2800_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I used to own one that Peavey practice bass amp along with a rare 1972 fend= er p-bass/squire=2C the sound was god-like! I took it to a local guitar sho= p one day and the owner offered me a NEW fender squire with bag and a fuck = load of picks. I was young and naive at the time so I went for the exchange= =2C besides=2C NEW is always better right? LOLL


I found out a we= ek later=2C the man is selling this fender for over $1000.


L . O= . L :(



Date: Sat=2C 13 Oct 2012 10:32:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Show= us your pedalboard/looping setup :)
From: daniel@ithinkwethink.org
T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Here's my current pedal line-= up: http://iamdanielh= eartsthis.tumblr.com/post/33495083017/loves-my-pedaltrain-and-bossloop-rc50= -taken

For my solo sets now=2C after the pedals I run into the Micro Cube and = then the line-out from that into the Peavey practice bass amp (15w).
= --_66be8383-044e-4c39-9ba3-dc9863fb2800_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 18:07:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4320C183466; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=Pn6t8RWv6tWvN6fm8i6p03ZbHxIaf7Fnx2KNuYAlkOI=; b=k3oaGIBmA1f4usO/tC2qbarbtQERrR+wMtJVBuy6eZDqfPbhydnygFKjGW4ldLR5aW 0tIqy2enk9/5AP+VIP4FqdiL1QK5AHB3meS/iPQ9ghpVMqMnNec5PN8WrcqNRG1EODwY i90eQBAq4nRPUayIVkfxKzcVu+eCegjHqidAw+VN82htbCIFf7f24Bw8TzGyDDsdr3sH C53X9PbEvwHgJxBPei2Vll1Swq/IS85Qj4iRahdumcJ7XVQ7u8lz+WWtNL0wErewU4uf C3wvoHwKH8hAUX3rRZ/dxWWcSasx12bfM3n+pJdnX4koR6vsANZBWdX/p+vhphPohkjF gwVw== From: Matthias Grob Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24-416174460 Subject: new Touch page on LL.org Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:07:25 -0300 Message-Id: To: Loop List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:07:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-24-416174460 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become = important for most of us, I suspect http://www.livelooping.org/methods/touch-control/ your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site! Matthias= --Apple-Mail-24-416174460 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi

I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become important for most of us, I suspect

your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site!

Matthias
--Apple-Mail-24-416174460-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 18:19:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 587A0183466; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=OljRWPPjyFkbWd859VQFqAJ+X7MjzyVqv4R05OV8cdc=; b=1J1d6vG7tZgXt+xiH5gswFNTeSsqFYsc/H/ouWkVayllH2RKgmvondO3AYmfKpmLJp NE9bRryZvcBxmZtxjysiMTjYyDTd6esSTb7/hRa7mjRmxruqNS2jCNzckH0kw9F7JfCs 5NtyRPl1SHF82ucNMVQ3EdI03uOH0JBInp+mHLEbWsUnqoApU4Wvem0a1zYr/oFMxYiP v3nfKjRxSw4fwe1+qKAB6VUEqWCGblEtSZ0z3rzVgs0vL+MgJPUxbt8F0MMFnZA6RcNn qmtykPl+7yagKrntkb7+cdRIuKBaunj7+Gzf57Zav8U2RVdj3XsyykgOreVQAnpGsVAO ijDA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:19:25 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gjp6-qk7FBfmU4NwKN6Au2GKs7c Message-ID: Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621e402cf57004cc08f791 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:19:47 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621e402cf57004cc08f791 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great! I agree so much. A few bits of gear have got new leases of life due to Touch OSC, specifically Repeater, whichs was all but forgotten in my rack. Now I have an experimental layout which has buttons that automatically pitch the 4 track into known chords.. so 4 drones, get split out to chords, its amazing if the 4 tracks have a different feel, one chuggy one drony, one bendy and one errr... flippy? Or my2 edps which now have all the interesting direct midi commands laid out on a kind of mirrored design, so a quick left right flick of the wrist (like a bhodran playing technique) will spit my guitar into micro sus granules to left and right (if I pan the 2 edps)... mark On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > Hi > > I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become > important for most of us, I suspect > http://www.livelooping.org/methods/touch-control/ > > your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site! > > Matthias > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b621e402cf57004cc08f791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great! I agree so much. A few bits of gear have got new leases of life due = to Touch OSC, specifically Repeater, whichs was all but forgotten in my rac= k. Now I have an experimental layout which has buttons that automatically p= itch the 4 track into known chords.. so 4 drones, get split out to chords, = its amazing if the 4 tracks have a different feel, one chuggy one drony, on= e bendy and one errr... flippy?

Or my2=A0 edps which now have all the interesting direct midi commands = laid out on a kind of mirrored design, so a quick left right flick of the w= rist (like a bhodran playing technique) will spit my guitar into micro sus = granules to left and right (if I pan the 2 edps)...

mark


On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:07= PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi

I wrote a new pag= e about the touch screen options that will become important for most of us,= I suspect

your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site!

Matt= hias



= --
Mark Francombe
= www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.c= om/photos/24478662@N00/

--047d7b621e402cf57004cc08f791-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 18:42:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B6DA183466; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Z Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5FCDCD04-24E6-4372-AB48-88B4EC817E10" Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:42:09 +0200 Message-Id: <83FCC177-E313-4CEF-A985-5F49FA1E7542@zzz.ch> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:42:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_5FCDCD04-24E6-4372-AB48-88B4EC817E10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cheers. Great page. Would love if you'd not forget our own iOS livelooping app: = loopr . Still a version 1.0 , but hey, it's an iOS looper too and we're quite a = few using it for our live sessions. As previously mailed here, I've got = a few promo copies for those of you who would be interested in using it. And you can check the app in sounds and videos on the www.loopr.net = website. Thanks, and cheers, ;) Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 14 oct. 2012, at 20:07, Matthias Grob wrote: > Hi >=20 > I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become = important for most of us, I suspect > http://www.livelooping.org/methods/touch-control/ >=20 > your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site! >=20 > Matthias --Apple-Mail=_5FCDCD04-24E6-4372-AB48-88B4EC817E10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii www.loopr.net website.
T= hanks, and cheers,
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On 14 oct. 2012, at 20:07, Matthias Grob = wrote:

Hi

I = wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become = important for most of us, I suspect

your = experiences and reviews are welcome on the = site!

Matthias
=0A> = Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 6:53 AM=0A> On 10/11/12 3:36 PM, Jim Bjorkl= un=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> >=A0 So I'm wondering if the output (sic, LP-2) is= =0A> stereo (like on my RiffBox)?=0A> > =0A> *mono only*,=0A> > =0A> > 2) T= he Usage Guide says that "Using the SDHC card for=0A> audio storage results= in a few rules about audio recording=0A> and overdubbing". The most intere= sting of these is that some=0A> SD cards may not be fast enough to read the= incoming audio.=0A> This begs the question of whether it's possible to not= =0A> record to the SD card (say if you don't want to retrieve=0A> your loop= later).=A0 Is there a mode where you simply=0A> record your loop straight = into the pedal, which can play the=0A> loop back with 100% reliability?=0A>= > =0A> *The SD is completely reliable and holds up to 8=0A> tracks.=A0=A0= =A0These can be imported into a=0A> computer=0A> and effected and returned = to the card to be able to play on=0A> the unit. It ships with a 4 gig card = that has been tested=0A> specifically to work with the unit.=A0=A0=A0You=0A= > merely buy that exact same card and you are golden.=0A> *=0A> > =0A> > 3)= Can the MIDI out port also be configured as a=0A> Thru?=A0 Since I'd alway= s be synching the LP-2 to a drum=0A> machine's MIDI clock, I'd like to pass= the MIDI clock=0A> through to another effects processor.=0A> > *I don't us= e a lot of midi in my life so I'm not 100%=0A> of this answer, but it's alw= ays been my=0A> > understanding that if you put midi into a unit and send= =0A> it out that you can daisy chain things.=0A> > =0A> > Am I incorrect he= re.........Bill Walker would know=0A> because he uses the LP-2 to control a= lot of his downstream=0A> devices (other loopers, digital delays, other ti= me based=0A> effects. *=0A> > =0A> > 4) What are the dimensions of the LP-2= ?=0A> > =0A> *It is just minisculey larger than a DL-4*=0A> > =0A> > Thanks= for any additional info. that can be given on=0A> this beguiling box!=0A> = > =0A> > - Jim=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > --- On *Thu, 10/4/12, Tim Thompson //*=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0From: Tim Tho= mpson =0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0Subject: Re: Re: Any news on= =0A> LP-2, anyone?=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0Date: Thursday, October 4,=0A> 2012, 12:44 PM=0A> > =0A= > > =0A> >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0They've really=0A> been holding up well and = they have to work, I"m=0A> >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0going to=0A> >=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0=A0=A0do my entire=0A> performance=0A> >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0with them a= t=0A> Y2K12 in two weeks time=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0People will a= lso be able to=0A> play with the LP-2 when Rick=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0demonstra= tes it at the "Touch=0A> the Loopers" event (Oct 18).=0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 ...Tim...=0A> > =0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 18:44:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9BC9183460; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RBzPTIHUbdQnzXcwEqsd5nHhUN+v/ffHNk5REcqJP4A=; b=XZMvs9+7lb/uhNYHdpDtl+UFCrwbos1pZw0MnEyDgGMJPXP5+bfQjUTIyaDywqRPC0 jm4jby7/stJzlWJxTb6NdzyXzzLdSYWqKcgRTvpWrGTM8dH8H2l9NMhgRY+AhTwzjaSo cwdXuDT9gwDsX3oX5BFC+QcOd/JwKC8Bgnr2eQztAjlFQ450j6BGkRjK3xkee6WDIZdL TFZH51qpqZN8XdXqSMxHXKQXnRPQcFNksX2faQPLHnILNYZXP2OCwNq+ks8ShcH+ss9o q1bRH+W2cl722EeaZGzv23qNfPeWWRk81AgSctvsCEVaRMyvx1TQ8bpDx5Qt/B6SBjkI ITfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:44:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Ok, then. I think it is great with an iOS/Android resource page. Would be cool with user reviews of apps there as well. I'm not sure about the meaning of the first sentence "Touch control is the most promising interface for musicians!". If one says something is "the most promising" one must explain why. I can imagine touch control is the most promising interface for musicians that operate their musical instruments entirely by feet, but that's rare :-). For normal musicians I would consider pedal control to be the most promising interface, for the reason that it can be combined with playing instruments. Well not just promising, it is actually delivering. But some aspects of the touch screen technology is "most promising" I think; that would not be the interface itself but the big number of exciting applications being developed for the platform. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > Hi > > I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become important > for most of us, I suspect > http://www.livelooping.org/methods/touch-control/ > > your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site! > > Matthias From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 18:50:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FE34183463; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org From: Z In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:50:16 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <52470730-BB29-4CB2-80FC-65619C3A6932@zzz.ch> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Totally agree with you Per. One of the main reason for our own app development. Apps like Loopy or = EveryDay Looper (great apps by the way), are however very poor for = live-looping if you need your hands and fingers for some other more = important things (like playing the music or interacting with the public = for instance ;) ). So 'most promising' is a bit awkward without better = explanation. Cheers, :) Z On 14 oct. 2012, at 20:44, Per Boysen wrote: > Ok, then. I think it is great with an iOS/Android resource page. Would > be cool with user reviews of apps there as well. >=20 > I'm not sure about the meaning of the first sentence "Touch control is > the most promising interface for musicians!". If one says something is > "the most promising" one must explain why. I can imagine touch control > is the most promising interface for musicians that operate their > musical instruments entirely by feet, but that's rare :-). For normal > musicians I would consider pedal control to be the most promising > interface, for the reason that it can be combined with playing > instruments. Well not just promising, it is actually delivering. >=20 > But some aspects of the touch screen technology is "most promising" I > think; that would not be the interface itself but the big number of > exciting applications being developed for the platform. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthias Grob = wrote: >> Hi >>=20 >> I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become = important >> for most of us, I suspect >> http://www.livelooping.org/methods/touch-control/ >>=20 >> your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site! >>=20 >> Matthias >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 19:24:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 732CD183464; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ASsd0wDx8zGQ9c/9PbNsOEkAVfUO6/qlCVpfLsTaBjQ=; b=OowUJG6goyq9ZPM6jrW+2NlzLZ8V9HYst2UYtLyYYrfV7qhea2j9vyofhUIzrRnMDP z2MjYSGyoZXNnHuE0kxlg5dc5uH52lO8JzycoYbPCKXHXqcwzPiPnedJB1x6ghZyRnAt EDuuNrq8xYab/l+pYsywfdlqyogNED+GsWK4VOIUiQQL5mhr5oIezU+UPQO78Bo1z7yq HzHK4uFz+G0hsJswQJd+wzm1fNjQh76tiW2o1iM+TFPIYjssiVkLZVTcnEkbfwpv59EB FZsEgpOKL18c/MoGdt3EjWDjkW0neO3OSTTPJMxTq083g6WXK8Fm23kf97i/8dYYAogy pAjg== Message-ID: <507B116F.9090007@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:24:31 -0700 From: 7stringjazz Reply-To: 7stringjazz@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopergroup Subject: Any news on the LP1? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnk27hP+nYFImHgRcqN03LnGU/BGDCvtDcXwcjn6RiY80OSyPwHT+DWzjvWJWrZg6YqTXHL Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Is it dead? Also can someone post a link to the latest firmware/doc set? Thanks! -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 19:33:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37135183464; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=iSg502IU1wu6dEV/fmQOlyJT17lZp4XPjxus0hJvEIg=; b=OEMX4QxwuKDYuxcTKfwtJPLKy1KR+3En9Ftxl+Hy2lwL7E6+mBIKUxIBEwcV65rk9T Ax0xJhABpqevWzmNFxaaQ1kMjQuNBNy1tWNIjqRgSE3X8EqP0jFpyZvx7vfZqV9FxMJU tJbPRJEomzOiqAyp4BX5TUbHRUWEx6Bu4+JM0llLDKMtaJtNj4AghTTvWJaZgyk35t7e U7+Kjol5SsKhBSmb/zlRRw64rENrKnrjhOFnl0e/PMdbxRu9AIO4+9iY4i2mDzKSeK/n I8azUh0ufeX/Aun4Pvz0JIsqLF7OOdPUgFk6yUqmPMHNzmSYdiz/MPVw/SK7NojWBH9A CSmw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:33:07 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:33:14 +0000 (UTC) On 14.10.2012, at 15:44, Per Boysen wrote: > Ok, then. I think it is great with an iOS/Android resource page. Would > be cool with user reviews of apps there as well. >=20 > I'm not sure about the meaning of the first sentence "Touch control is > the most promising interface for musicians!". If one says something is > "the most promising" one must explain why. you are right, its so obvious to me that I did not explain: - its immeditate, to button delay - its possble to send feedback to it, so there is not need to look in 2 = different places - its noise free - its configurable and with tabs, the same surface can switch = configuration instantely - its light, has long battery life - its can be used for many other (non musical) purposes - it may contain the whole audio computer, especially when its a windows = machine > I can imagine touch control > is the most promising interface for musicians that operate their > musical instruments entirely by feet, but that's rare :-). I do not understand this point... we can easily have a touch screen for = hand operation and another controller for the feet, be it a classic = pedal, Softstep or another touch screen, no? > For normal musicians I would consider pedal control to be the most = promising > interface, for the reason that it can be combined with playing > instruments. Well not just promising, it is actually delivering. thats how I understand promising: we do not know yet how far it can go but maybe there is a better expression? >=20 > But some aspects of the touch screen technology is "most promising" I > think; that would not be the interface itself but the big number of > exciting applications being developed for the platform. maybe this happens because the interface is promising? >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthias Grob = wrote: >> Hi >>=20 >> I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become = important >> for most of us, I suspect >> http://www.livelooping.org/methods/touch-control/ >>=20 >> your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site! >>=20 >> Matthias >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 19:47:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A4C4183464; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=n7TVNuNiGEV4nBcsYpqTB7jLF5aQwNQhii+0J60kPeM=; b=BRIMMhdz7HOit3sWNXwkWhSy298uxAF/FpeexDt3DZabRpqIZJe7Da289+D6cQKMjd hTr9uzLRt/hjlq5TL2EIrzYKxvdTf326SF6qry4P/xIk76LuYzThjp7g5vZgDNeuFZUJ //N8N4ohbD48HSwG2lrAU2EK2pWPd2AkAvws3IlDFgvX8MsqG7Qqy2gK/3joEEvrQm1P n6xcJHOzG3e5+n419mcSftc0/P0gas/y+dfPcTpKTmbk9W7FZAP1BKon+d+ntJ8f6WgD dKynelaLk8lwaX/GPfLCpp4xClbLbyFWT/Pw0eIUWJK+amPRD1aXlCOUkBkORs7B9bCO N9sg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:47:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:47:58 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >> I can imagine touch control >> is the most promising interface for musicians that operate their >> musical instruments entirely by feet, but that's rare :-). > > I do not understand this point... we can easily have a touch screen for hand operation and another controller for the feet, be it a classic pedal, Softstep or another touch screen, no? That was just a funny way of saying that hands might be needed for playing. Unless the touch pad IS the instrument, that is. :-) This based on the initial definition of touch screen as "the most promising interface". Certainly we can combine touch pads with other interfaces, but the page did not mention that - and this is what my humble post wants to point out. After all, if talking active control it would actually be better for musicians if the interface doesn't require visual attention. This is not promising at all, since it is never going to change. But if talking passive control, as in monitoring levels etc, the visual bias of touch screen technology is all positive. As it is when the pad itself is the instrument to be played. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 19:53:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0E26183465; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sxeka5y3wtYI9RMVVe7wHLPQBJcWAiSwX4GySfYS5xg=; b=xz+LiVzBeZfKXUUWA1bThYX+iplX97BcGVTnGLy034Ay8paeuV08YzALJvUibSPIa/ X8j+FPAjr1rw4lC7mQ9yg1EqY7mgJrbQZ5REMBNdqin+mLljJ25LPx+MLX/2LlqoZfyy l5g9RGUKY+2gwQn3urJLlpUKBYvorZO3KnhdTZgyVy5PG7aYNX1zcU022KZoKRCw7uxV 0WcastCraqgqaSOtdqV3qicV2Z26KkOY1b3YdXA+RXQ7/7uuMg/2/VYVUjVmWKRfHJvN xNvA1uSMq6mdjzjhG2eso0SSMbmaEV+/kzH+dutu4+YFYEIVMMKjg1ZDRE1DF2jOf8hx euMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:53:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mat, Also for iOS and Android - MRMR - http://mrmr.noisepages.com/ Ricky On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >>> I can imagine touch control >>> is the most promising interface for musicians that operate their >>> musical instruments entirely by feet, but that's rare :-). >> >> I do not understand this point... we can easily have a touch screen for hand operation and another controller for the feet, be it a classic pedal, Softstep or another touch screen, no? > > > That was just a funny way of saying that hands might be needed for > playing. Unless the touch pad IS the instrument, that is. :-) This > based on the initial definition of touch screen as "the most promising > interface". Certainly we can combine touch pads with other interfaces, > but the page did not mention that - and this is what my humble post > wants to point out. > > After all, if talking active control it would actually be better for > musicians if the interface doesn't require visual attention. This is > not promising at all, since it is never going to change. But if > talking passive control, as in monitoring levels etc, the visual bias > of touch screen technology is all positive. As it is when the pad > itself is the instrument to be played. > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 20:13:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38D92183464; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=DkTqEuKnd0GJgPOb32r4C35782lzso4AQUiul0YQAzQ=; b=DdI8R3Zx1yjI1jgwH/ajGKb35lVGnZe7nNvcNyEtlC0WoGnH0p9lzAySle/48zAgRt FM8SPC0QaR8+FcngA0EleAerBU76GnQUzF2Lc3CZsIXUvyYpiXW44MJYvkc7xm+0ExLH HKTpVReDEvXOgX0P3oLBa6zmux4YaSE2q7/o+agp+y5Df16oIl5pYpRaFymR3roF8Kz/ P/fxqYzvrxVbqTpvzTO6tn7kYFRqLs4O2jrUdE0vdEbh1hQU4ywT1vb7rFaykC6fMBOC BI6sXBoh5JkWwKUsTTvSdN8Ovv8N1fBjflWmqvByn79/ToplNbkvbymEHB9YyYVzR7c/ CzGw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:13:35 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1784FB9A-B44C-49E2-8349-CED4DD33E5E4@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <0MFzB.A.-fE.0zxeQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:13:41 +0000 (UTC) On 14.10.2012, at 16:47, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Matthias Grob = wrote: >>> I can imagine touch control >>> is the most promising interface for musicians that operate their >>> musical instruments entirely by feet, but that's rare :-). >>=20 >> I do not understand this point... we can easily have a touch screen = for hand operation and another controller for the feet, be it a classic = pedal, Softstep or another touch screen, no? >=20 >=20 > That was just a funny way of saying that hands might be needed for > playing. Unless the touch pad IS the instrument, that is. :-) This > based on the initial definition of touch screen as "the most promising > interface". Certainly we can combine touch pads with other interfaces, > but the page did not mention that - and this is what my humble post > wants to point out. ...which was very useful, as you see, I already change the page a lot = :-) >=20 > After all, if talking active control it would actually be better for > musicians if the interface doesn't require visual attention. This is > not promising at all, since it is never going to change. there are atempts already to make the touchscreen 3D, be it with silicon = overlays or even a real time liquid method is that what we are talking about here? > But if > talking passive control, as in monitoring levels etc, the visual bias > of touch screen technology is all positive. As it is when the pad > itself is the instrument to be played. >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 20:16:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A10D4183463; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=3sJ+dV07JbShOLX6OoLQJkxXaf0Od6CjfQm2prGn8lY=; b=qNMUW75uJ2ImKSxfAAI/3cI2nvN0Gdy6e6bFJkTHO4lXzzDLEpkc0976kaImnvK1O0 7BcRAQPf5OJHyREdArxD01CGVC83g9sLUa8RA2x9G+gxqpIZ1qex01Ykrt/HCBakDx7N mbw2ZOQP2GBytdmuhoPH2suvvcUuqoRBTLcSSSidlWAUwk7tBGsgH8/e3BDP0Q5Ykars 5bW26p5sEcHdaAJtjqy9YmSIBkxFHS9E5cdZDqcQg1WL9PMrw85zKSFwXhtDkjr0Botd +ZUUME8B8RW+I9nTb1UlNHUDMphzDnuQwaR36Kxz/73MDnmzHxwRImbfwShlpY64+ePB B3Vg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:16:05 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20A0465B-1AFD-440B-9BF7-4AC9C5E2B1C5@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <59nzAD.A.knE.J2xeQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:16:09 +0000 (UTC) yes, sure! maybe you can say something about it? On 14.10.2012, at 16:53, Ricky Graham wrote: > Hi Mat, > > Also for iOS and Android - MRMR - http://mrmr.noisepages.com/ > > Ricky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 20:19:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 522DB183461; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Loop List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: new Touch page on LL.org Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 22:19:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000701cdaa49$35ef9280$a1ceb780$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CDAA59.F9786280" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2qNsOWpBV5re0BT4anElLl74+1wgAEkOKA Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:19:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CDAA59.F9786280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become = important for most of us =20 =20 thanks Matthias! a useful introduction to something that we will be = using a lot in the future I think =20 -Michael =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CDAA59.F9786280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> = I wrote a new page about the touch = screen options that will become important for most of us

 

 

thanks = Matthias!=C2=A0 a useful = introduction to something that we will be using a lot in the future I = think

 

-Michael<= /p>

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CDAA59.F9786280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 20:40:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D60AE183462; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=SNmkwsB7SgNX58Y7k1+RDf4jhegYTFwPRuTPNdPxrTA=; b=mQsdhh9NiVk8HXl6gkgM1C3C0p4EYC8Y9omlc4FdMyoZZzSighyd+7nLcs5d38t1zn hDKnIxiA1UHzMAeeB5zsmUS6aesfp5/19vguCqZFMKIkkwMV8PDNMX67Y/Do5fpPf68L DGaQCRZZnX67Zslhi7wxyiyVhrz/ztcanz5J1nTIE43rh/wY1ZffKQ4BxIb47MpnpAHV Z8GxU4uUffyJn3eOkRUBmXk4PZAVqvQOpW6sBCVk2O+AwwMtfm3Rlvf44dCz+zOhNa92 ND41IbqXKLdwoIYRUUeDUc4G+y1cNI6HjMJeZqYzYRsp1qax6F3Vmo+XOQJj4YEmCAf6 XxDA== From: Matthias Grob Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-26-425382794 Subject: Re: new Touch page on LL.org Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:40:53 -0300 In-Reply-To: <83FCC177-E313-4CEF-A985-5F49FA1E7542@zzz.ch> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <83FCC177-E313-4CEF-A985-5F49FA1E7542@zzz.ch> Message-Id: <2313122F-2771-4495-A11C-2614097A0774@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:40:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-26-425382794 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii sorry for that! fixed now... On 14.10.2012, at 15:42, Z wrote: > Cheers. > Great page. Would love if you'd not forget our own iOS livelooping = app: loopr . > Still a version 1.0 , but hey, it's an iOS looper too and we're quite = a few using it for our live sessions. As previously mailed here, I've = got a few promo copies for those of you who would be interested in using = it. > And you can check the app in sounds and videos on the www.loopr.net = website. > Thanks, and cheers, > ;) > Z > http://zzz.ch > http://loopr.net >=20 > On 14 oct. 2012, at 20:07, Matthias Grob wrote: >=20 >> Hi >>=20 >> I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become = important for most of us, I suspect >> http://www.livelooping.org/methods/touch-control/ >>=20 >> your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site! >>=20 >> Matthias >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-26-425382794 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii sorry = for that! fixed now...

On 14.10.2012, at 15:42, Z = wrote:

Cheers.
Great page. = Would love if you'd not forget our own iOS livelooping app: loopr = .
Still a version 1.0 , but hey, it's an iOS looper too and = we're quite a few using it for our live sessions. As previously mailed = here, I've got a few promo copies for those of you who would be = interested in using it.
And you can check the app in sounds = and videos on the www.loopr.net website.
T= hanks, and cheers,
;)
Z
<= /div>
On 14 oct. 2012, at 20:07, Matthias Grob = wrote:

Hi

I = wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will become = important for most of us, I suspect

your = experiences and reviews are welcome on the = site!

Matthias
Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:02:31 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to point out that the iOS app "Loopy" can be controlled by MIDI, which to us means our feet... :) >Totally agree with you Per. >One of the main reason for our own app development. Apps like Loopy >or EveryDay Looper (great apps by the way), are however very poor >for live-looping if you need your hands and fingers for some other >more important things (like playing the music or interacting with >the public for instance ;) ). So 'most promising' is a bit awkward >without better explanation. >Cheers, >:) >Z > >On 14 oct. 2012, at 20:44, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Ok, then. I think it is great with an iOS/Android resource page. Would >> be cool with user reviews of apps there as well. >> >> I'm not sure about the meaning of the first sentence "Touch control is >> the most promising interface for musicians!". If one says something is >> "the most promising" one must explain why. I can imagine touch control >> is the most promising interface for musicians that operate their >> musical instruments entirely by feet, but that's rare :-). For normal >> musicians I would consider pedal control to be the most promising >> interface, for the reason that it can be combined with playing >> instruments. Well not just promising, it is actually delivering. >> >> But some aspects of the touch screen technology is "most promising" I >> think; that would not be the interface itself but the big number of >> exciting applications being developed for the platform. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I wrote a new page about the touch screen options that will >>>become important >>> for most of us, I suspect >>> http://www.livelooping.org/methods/touch-control/ >>> >>> your experiences and reviews are welcome on the site! >>> >>> Matthias >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 03:54:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1CB5183460; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 03:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 03:54:27 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 22:53:41 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T with Women of Power, Oct 20, Outpost 186, Cambridge, MA Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com, MaiyimBaron@JapaneseInterpreter.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 03:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Visual Music LIVE continues at Outpost 186 on Saturday at 8 PM. -- I'll be doing video improvisations with Junko Fujiwara - Cello Glynis Lomon - Cello, Aquasonic, Voice Mimi Rabson - Violin Andrea Pensado, electronics and voice. Sparks will fly! My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources with a video mixer and effects processor. The sources consist of computer-manipulated original material derived from my still photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- sometimes they simply co-exist. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 06:57:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81401183463; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_69196655-6020-4333-bd38-9abbe16b88dd_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: mixing & mastering Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:57:46 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2012 06:57:47.0081 (UTC) FILETIME=[62188390:01CDAAA2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:57:48 +0000 (UTC) --_69196655-6020-4333-bd38-9abbe16b88dd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey y'all=2C I was wondering how you go about mixing & mastering your live performances? I'm new to the world of live looping and I come from a hip-hop background u= sing FL Studio. I usually do my best to get the sound I want as I compose &= then go back later a make any adjustments before mastering. I've seen some live looping rigs that have effects like reverb & stereo pha= ser - is having the right settings something that is pre-meditated or do yo= u just sculpt as you go and whatever the result is=2C remains? I hope that makes sense loll = --_69196655-6020-4333-bd38-9abbe16b88dd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey y'all=2C

I was wondering how you go about mixing &=3B masteri= ng your live performances?


I'm new to the world of live looping = and I come from a hip-hop background using FL Studio. I usually do my best = to get the sound I want as I compose &=3B then go back later a make any = adjustments before mastering.

I've seen some live looping rigs that = have effects like reverb &=3B stereo phaser - is having the right settin= gs something that is pre-meditated or do you just sculpt as you go and what= ever the result is=2C remains?


I hope that makes sense loll
=
= --_69196655-6020-4333-bd38-9abbe16b88dd_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 07:56:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 041E7183463; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tristan Zand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EE2EA7B2-4F5E-48F8-8865-23AD0BAD8612" Subject: Re: mixing & mastering Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:56:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <4ED8D0FF-1FB1-4CA7-93BF-ACD1AA697643@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:56:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_EE2EA7B2-4F5E-48F8-8865-23AD0BAD8612 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 When I work in solo, I usually use a preset setting, and tighten it up = with some kind of multiband comp/limiting before amplification. As for = the real-time effects, I usually improvise with non computer based = real-time modulators (e.g. Lexicon Vortex) so that doesn't let me rework = the settings afterwords. I try as much as possible to record the = multiband comp/limiter stereo (or surround) stream, the non comp stream, = and some kind of 'ambiance' miked sound from stage room. With these in = hands I can then mix a 'live' master for further distribution. But more commonly I try to partner with a live engineer/composer, that = reworks the sound live (including the raw loop data), but always try to = record the same streams as before in any case. Cheers, Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 15 oct. 2012, at 08:57, Jack Cattedra wrote: > Hey y'all, >=20 > I was wondering how you go about mixing & mastering your live = performances? >=20 >=20 > I'm new to the world of live looping and I come from a hip-hop = background using FL Studio. I usually do my best to get the sound I want = as I compose & then go back later a make any adjustments before = mastering. >=20 > I've seen some live looping rigs that have effects like reverb & = stereo phaser - is having the right settings something that is = pre-meditated or do you just sculpt as you go and whatever the result = is, remains? >=20 >=20 > I hope that makes sense loll --Apple-Mail=_EE2EA7B2-4F5E-48F8-8865-23AD0BAD8612 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 When I work in solo, I usually use a preset = setting, and tighten it up with some kind of multiband comp/limiting = before amplification. As for the real-time effects, I usually improvise = with non computer based real-time modulators (e.g. Lexicon Vortex) so = that doesn't let me rework the settings afterwords. I try as much as = possible to record the multiband comp/limiter stereo (or surround) = stream, the non comp stream, and some kind of 'ambiance' miked sound = from stage room. With these in hands I can then mix a 'live' master for = further distribution.
But more commonly I try to partner with a live = engineer/composer, that reworks the sound live (including the raw loop = data), but always try to record the same streams as before in any = case.
Cheers,
Z

On = 15 oct. 2012, at 08:57, Jack Cattedra wrote:

Hey y'all,

I was wondering how you go about = mixing & mastering your live performances?


I'm new to the = world of live looping and I come from a hip-hop background using FL = Studio. I usually do my best to get the sound I want as I compose & = then go back later a make any adjustments before mastering.

I've = seen some live looping rigs that have effects like reverb & stereo = phaser - is having the right settings something that is pre-meditated or = do you just sculpt as you go and whatever the result is, = remains?


I hope that makes sense = loll

= --Apple-Mail=_EE2EA7B2-4F5E-48F8-8865-23AD0BAD8612-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 09:37:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D633183464; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 824294569/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.5/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.5 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAKLYe1BYbRkF/2dsb2JhbAANOMMeAQEBBDhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBsgeTCY51gyEDmzuNTw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,588,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="824294569" Message-ID: <507BD963.2010309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:37:39 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mixing & mastering References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Jack Cattedra wrote: > Hey y'all, > > I was wondering how you go about mixing & mastering your live performances? > All mixing done live. Usually recorded at the desk. I don't use reverb live...apart from that which the venue provides "for free". Mastering: Re-create the reverb of the venue using Audition's "Echo Chamber". EQ Check on alternate speakers and re-EQ if needed. Normalize to 96%. A technique you might find useful: Record un-looped audio to separate track, alongside the mix. It's then possible to re-create the looping and mix in a DAW. (after editing out any unwanted notes) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 11:01:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CF3D183464; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+F5j6wPvo17rKNuyPDIbVf4tbPAIKUqafSG7Q7ZSVUw=; b=efbQHggQlrlNHQke/xkGaHo0shWCoYRLI34/f+Ef7CJP7cIvVgBejaC/9rAw7OxF6I +N0P5lL56gcJLWmKpOm2t5ak/9AlirnQVruPLvGtFw6tJ3y+iN/v9KPywrAzSMdiIn7E OPjGQbA2vdrvNB6wh8Ovs+c4LNmRVaB7pWc0JFJI9nahly2U4UYKJpXwjnZAd027uf2B 9s1lf1VRTKuIs0Jd35QcxuHVYAcBRpOQPhvNeJzTosJ2DDWfKCBz4ol1bm3YxE8DIVHW 10HjDcB1YKwCn3J+2B/7uv+Gs7Z/4PTVDYP9c1r+aZrWC4WDy9iGciPNFZh+6jbBpqHg wB+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:01:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mixing & mastering From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:01:54 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Jack Cattedra wrote: > I was wondering how you go about mixing & mastering your live performances? Mixing is part of the performance so I only do mastering to the stereo recording of the main output. Mastering I do is balancing sound of all frequency bands through-out the track (for example, you might get a 500 khz "bump" at a particular note attack and then I automate down that range for just that note keep a natural sound) and applying a little compression to make it sound more musical (but not multi frequency compression, if that would be needed I regard it a performance mistake in the first place). > I've seen some live looping rigs that have effects like reverb & stereo > phaser - is having the right settings something that is pre-meditated or do > you just sculpt as you go and whatever the result is, remains? Both in my case. I perform switching between several "patches" that each one has its unique chain of effects and also unique dynamic effect control by expression pedals, faders, buttons, switches and knobs. I regard the patches part of the instrument I play and settings can be quite badly altered in the heat of the action so I have the rig set up in the way that every time a patch is recalled it comes up with my own default (pre perfected) settings (mixer, levels, timbre, effects). With the instant total recall option you can get bold and trash settings without the risk of loosing anything. Even if a trash-down action doesn't lead into something musically meaningful it will still work as an interesting "break-down" or "stick" given you get out in time and land "on your feet" (= a new fresh patch that brings the mix back to normal). So this is why I prefer recording the main output as one stereo file rather than capturing multiple channels as separate audio files. The above method is just one I use, but my fav regarding live looping. I record in many other ways as well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 11:20:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB0BB183462; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tristan Zand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F0AC1DC1-8DA8-4103-A64E-FCFD04F233A0" Subject: Re: mixing & mastering Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:20:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <87553537-5FCF-4F9E-A606-464ABFF32F37@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:20:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_F0AC1DC1-8DA8-4103-A64E-FCFD04F233A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wooo! We definitely find it useful for high volume 'dancing' environments = where you need to pump a bit the room volume! But I'd definitely agree for lower volume ones.. ;) Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 15 oct. 2012, at 13:01, Per Boysen wrote: > if that would be needed I regard it a > performance mistake in the first place) --Apple-Mail=_F0AC1DC1-8DA8-4103-A64E-FCFD04F233A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On 15 oct. 2012, at 13:01, Per Boysen wrote:

if that would = be needed I regard it a
performance mistake in the first = place)

= --Apple-Mail=_F0AC1DC1-8DA8-4103-A64E-FCFD04F233A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 12:23:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC401183464; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=E4qG+FdltHCb9TlpAMSmczfPhVBKuF4k07LipgJ9rEM=; b=vvk+SFsAReTAIk4a6oE14DDOKgTXdktrX5m8An4C0xDqnxrK7+vY2RegHx1mVywT/V U/XMqRxsJ8D4gsaO2ZMogzQWbkzkcjp8aup+Gv/qTpG8bZncjxnzB79BfaxlkCXRDDEj 3hhrc0qgmcNwQrBIWs17jbqbZufs5XeCCLHnqPI5uzISl6JGHHChEnhJeP4xAyWRzp4p H3QofamVpCJ3tDEMsJ+KouyjKJ7Rj0GTlmiGtS2pjjXvojFqFGo+ippIlmT3ltzYiDFK Js/o/hzdE7wsTmSy0ZRRGK4L0uGtU1VijRwO4/78/bNAXsZYANU6ahmOXB4o0YPERVTG RkvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87553537-5FCF-4F9E-A606-464ABFF32F37@zzz.ch> References: <87553537-5FCF-4F9E-A606-464ABFF32F37@zzz.ch> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:23:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mixing & mastering From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Yes, that's right when talking about a stereo mix where you don't have access to the different components. What I implied is that I prefer to make necessary adaptions as close to the sound source as possible, rather than using a multi band compressor. That way you can get an even punchier loud sound (because sound sources with extra muscles do not bog down the band width for other more subtle sound components). Another issue for live performance issue is latency and since I work on a laptop based system I rule out all software that cause extra latency, which includes most multiband compressors I know about. One might argue that "a host application applies latency compensation" but this is only true as long as you work with already recorded sounds and the host application is not the sync slave to something else (a looper device or a buddy) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tristan Zand wrote: > Wooo! > We definitely find it useful for high volume 'dancing' environments where > you need to pump a bit the room volume! > But I'd definitely agree for lower volume ones.. > ;) > Z > http://zzz.ch > http://loopr.net > > On 15 oct. 2012, at 13:01, Per Boysen wrote: > > if that would be needed I regard it a > performance mistake in the first place) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 12:30:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9960183464; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3+6Nu+IBAMXFVX2alkZuNtyymxc0vxcs+0APz2JapuE=; b=LTFjNPHcpAWTWnQ6O6B3FY9pZsGti8O31E9qPLjUW87ggDGmExYHiIk3U/apr1z5xH lWIo+2oZQEzpEsmgJY78iLStNm2/XYnJgg1iBYC1LBxqr+WW0xTAcyGwG93FKFtG3KEr coFs6XCV2nb5kL49YzsCzhn8O8ypbpn5yLqdK9dtwTF5DWXs7okCAmlEudgF0MKW0MDf td+IllT/718+bUWt3MnFtKJPMUlKemNQK7cyMFdzcHLmCpFJf0pWJHANnuhtzyHU3nCA 9o4cZYdKhEB4EfybRDJZ1MLpTIW06wqBKOhJKHIMci1t3v6kN3QcrnsrzFDVvYsmjmAW bJPg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:30:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mixing & mastering From: Bennett Williams To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae934103969e88a04cc18344b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:30:38 +0000 (UTC) --14dae934103969e88a04cc18344b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My looping rig has a Langevin ELOP limiter and a Dangerous Music BAX equalizer and then a Korg MR2000s high-resolution recorder. It took some experimenting to get things dialed in, but the recordings it makes are excellent. All I do when I need to make a CD are transfer the files from the Korg to the computer, normalize the levels of the tracks, and it's done. On Oct 15, 2012 2:57 AM, "Jack Cattedra" wrote: > Hey y'all, > > I was wondering how you go about mixing & mastering your live performances? > > > I'm new to the world of live looping and I come from a hip-hop background > using FL Studio. I usually do my best to get the sound I want as I compose > & then go back later a make any adjustments before mastering. > > I've seen some live looping rigs that have effects like reverb & stereo > phaser - is having the right settings something that is pre-meditated or do > you just sculpt as you go and whatever the result is, remains? > > > I hope that makes sense loll > --14dae934103969e88a04cc18344b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My looping rig has a Langevin ELOP limiter and a Dangerous Music BAX equ= alizer and then a Korg MR2000s high-resolution recorder. It took some exper= imenting to get things dialed in, but the recordings it makes are excellent= . All I do when I need to make a CD are transfer the files from the Korg to= the computer, normalize the levels of the tracks, and it's done.

On Oct 15, 2012 2:57 AM, "Jack Cattedra&quo= t; <the_beat_conductor= @hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey y'all,

I was wondering how you go about mixing & masteri= ng your live performances?


I'm new to the world of live loop= ing and I come from a hip-hop background using FL Studio. I usually do my b= est to get the sound I want as I compose & then go back later a make an= y adjustments before mastering.

I've seen some live looping rigs that have effects like reverb &= ; stereo phaser - is having the right settings something that is pre-medita= ted or do you just sculpt as you go and whatever the result is, remains?

I hope that makes sense loll
--14dae934103969e88a04cc18344b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 12:52:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 668F8183464; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 824358412/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.5/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.5 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicFAF8GfFBYbRkF/2dsb2JhbAANOI4esEwBAwEDhC4BAQEEOEARCxgJFg8JAwIBAgFFHAGyJpMejnWDIQObO41P X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,588,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="824358412" Message-ID: <507C01E2.5070205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:30:26 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mixing & mastering References: <87553537-5FCF-4F9E-A606-464ABFF32F37@zzz.ch> In-Reply-To: <87553537-5FCF-4F9E-A606-464ABFF32F37@zzz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Tristan Zand wrote: > Wooo! > We definitely find it useful for high volume 'dancing' environments you mean it's not exactly dancing? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 20:53:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B93E4183464; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ee2de65c-6a9a-4050-a7e6-ba6584d9eda0_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: mixing & mastering Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:53:49 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <507C01E2.5070205@tiscali.co.uk> References: <87553537-5FCF-4F9E-A606-464ABFF32F37@zzz.ch>,<507C01E2.5070205@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2012 20:53:50.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DCCB3C0:01CDAB17] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) --_ee2de65c-6a9a-4050-a7e6-ba6584d9eda0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all the input fellas=2C a lot of great ideas! :) A limiter to stereo output seems like a good start=2C I'll have to create a= preset based on all the plug-ins I use. Right now=2C reverb=2C real-time p= itch shifting=2C delay=2C and the rest is glitch effects. PEACE & LOVE 2 ALL = --_ee2de65c-6a9a-4050-a7e6-ba6584d9eda0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for all the input fellas=2C a lot of great ideas! :)

A limite= r to stereo output seems like a good start=2C I'll have to create a preset = based on all the plug-ins I use. Right now=2C reverb=2C real-time pitch shi= fting=2C delay=2C and the rest is glitch effects.


PEACE &=3B = LOVE 2 ALL
= --_ee2de65c-6a9a-4050-a7e6-ba6584d9eda0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 20:57:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CA73183464; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tristan Zand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3EE3BCC7-5559-48A6-BB9A-19CA009F2E4F" Subject: Re: mixing & mastering Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:57:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <507C01E2.5070205@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <87553537-5FCF-4F9E-A606-464ABFF32F37@zzz.ch> <507C01E2.5070205@tiscali.co.uk> Message-Id: <438439C7-63F2-49F8-949D-45034587688F@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: <3RlfpB.A.ShF.fiHfQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:57:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_3EE3BCC7-5559-48A6-BB9A-19CA009F2E4F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 'convulsing' could be closer of an adjective when I think of it.. ;) Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 15 oct. 2012, at 14:30, andy butler wrote: > > Tristan Zand wrote: >> Wooo! >> We definitely find it useful for high volume 'dancing' environments > > you mean it's not exactly dancing? > --Apple-Mail=_3EE3BCC7-5559-48A6-BB9A-19CA009F2E4F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

On 15 oct. 2012, at 14:30, andy butler wrote:


Tristan Zand wrote:
Wooo!
We = definitely find it useful for high volume 'dancing' environments =

you mean it's not exactly = dancing?


= --Apple-Mail=_3EE3BCC7-5559-48A6-BB9A-19CA009F2E4F-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 21:14:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C98D18345C; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ntIFQCOP3dF9T96CpBJqRyjX/li6JWIMxShLZMfbOE0=; b=auIUzLjUwulZY7WVltn+OysQJepU9MqO5BvX6lOvzUNTyRDbzgH/UnnGT0l/PW+bww tyN4hXO9kCVeRkYeAO1OD2yFWhQQWqw+9LvMeGjl7iQIaTl8pSZwpBFncekMdmCYcpl8 CVrA1eoTR0c4jEPzNDO4IMhpUrvjKXqVd/cYEr74KigxRkJ3kk7DWXOVW5DhRTKoOgNA heY/3JhlYyk+lvJP3TjmVoVDcPkDSxdNDdQOu0D4pDoZHGIPz6bcmUwQb6Ud/ViKtEdd jkLieRk749OxJ5TvxGZI9bOKy28EEKaWwNjcS0yyZq0aHOwtEQucCMhGqJB5cQZ788RD n9Tw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:14:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Mixing a live set From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Hello, In a similar question to the earlier mixing one, anyone got any suggestions on how to mix a Live set so each instrument gets the best placement and remains distinct is a loop? I've got a Live set with a microphone, bass, guitars and wavedrum and iPad coming in and I want to lay out the best separation and treatment so I don't wind up with mush as I loop. Any suggestions for how best to achieve this goal? I'm not really up to speed on the sort of effects and process that clarify sound so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 21:27:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09DAD183465; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sitEu3gehUTwjyobUKAIKMHW0+PjguOTMKjTyFdR9NM=; b=OAlaa8JMwkcf65Q+LvqhRB4pWyGpcdl8/t6KfYoO7FssD3ZL6b1P82M1uqpKTEP/8/ B01pmnL/YaQdm7YM6MEAVKmn2oRf2m1RTU7wHL3a34HTdStGkqCek35i5MPrlGeQQNyR ltEoB9B0/CD3w1GwO9iG1z3CvuJQQjUyGZUEb+9JIg6Waklniuf+fPLIBHvZkPeJJVjk x7aK7pwWqaptApRsE9ED9bfwtHh6BKEIyLh8UWCqDahN1rvU/uW/tLUAqfLY/ACLWnmp bk+H3sj5IpP9jkDLPAO4AY9/830IS+ps4fN0Mq+Eoecu85W0pJaPV2c9iCXc4j1q3hMY JMaQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:27:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mixing a live set From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Same "rules" as for composition, orchestration and arranging: avoid combining sounds that sound too similar. Watch out for bass and lower mid frequencies for being "over crowded". Simple example: it is a lot simpler to sound good if backing up a flute melody with a bass melody compared to backing up a bass melody with another bass melody :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen "Digital is like glass while analog is... mud" (Spinal Tap) On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hello, > > In a similar question to the earlier mixing one, anyone got any > suggestions on how to mix a Live set so each instrument gets the best > placement and remains distinct is a loop? > > I've got a Live set with a microphone, bass, guitars and wavedrum and > iPad coming in and I want to lay out the best separation and treatment > so I don't wind up with mush as I loop. Any suggestions for how best > to achieve this goal? I'm not really up to speed on the sort of > effects and process that clarify sound so any advice would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 21:47:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 276C6183466; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FKr2fx/rc2rd8jK8HOXJFD7tOWloFgKyyIuPdPTU9+U=; b=EPURG6dtidOcYvF0nPVXa0cHx1kIO54mmmogOZLLRW9Khp9t/q9zOKODXN716+SR7h qyckpzok36zn0PZB1ePGHhQ8BVIZ2VkDYCBRNCHMT4gZhP8C4s2GmXayurLZwuHdko2J rdnZTCqbM9YtNXecmnCH0S2LZgfxQlxXtJEgsGZ1/P9MviEoslG9dwo/g782B+f8ObyX is5BmBuE41looI77mN3KD+0QjWbsMfkf52tp/4puNwGCgB/eOXb7x1Kht38HxDbkf5YL XLKBaycypg+/AQ4B+rwWrxxPfkxTprV6xedDLo7slhpG/pDc2uwvNWELHpohOegqnJFF pR/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:47:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mixing a live set From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Right, so the best way is to eq various instruments to fit in the mix of things or are there other tricks that might work as well or better? Seriously, I don't know this stuff very well as I've generally been a plug in (and plug in and plug in and plug in and plug in) and go kind of guy so dealing with these issues in advance hasn't really been part of my experience. Thanks, Kevin On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Same "rules" as for composition, orchestration and arranging: avoid > combining sounds that sound too similar. Watch out for bass and lower > mid frequencies for being "over crowded". Simple example: it is a lot > simpler to sound good if backing up a flute melody with a bass melody > compared to backing up a bass melody with another bass melody :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > "Digital is like glass while analog is... mud" (Spinal Tap) > > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> In a similar question to the earlier mixing one, anyone got any >> suggestions on how to mix a Live set so each instrument gets the best >> placement and remains distinct is a loop? >> >> I've got a Live set with a microphone, bass, guitars and wavedrum and >> iPad coming in and I want to lay out the best separation and treatment >> so I don't wind up with mush as I loop. Any suggestions for how best >> to achieve this goal? I'm not really up to speed on the sort of >> effects and process that clarify sound so any advice would be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 21:50:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D938183477; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9YNCMkk3Xr08Z/E+SYO6DLQSH7pbcxgmoqkXjFo1yHU=; b=aFltLTjw1XAWvys+Ejs+WOJY0F5Zb+06D01UdTXt3K9vKacZbiQMWF+WxAWFsTD4OP HnUns6Y+Milm23UJaEz/4XE7cCmKYbGZoGF3amu8toeCjT/EH1lkXw+6Fki67bJhYy3i S8jxejWH5lmDV6KGviBFfKrriddmCKWM7VnPe3CCgyutawro9IanlyAectRZ1KN0pF+p Y1LwroI1kyfZ7sx9xqd4aau6TxZ0V4RttZ6dMZ0IppHGnWASOCPUqTkYY0IddWAc5B9C 3YyGrdykk9IMMC7oYC0a15iNDwiArkkWOLT7O9+CJ5YrI6YoPZbnpsdVZmmqtqH2+ofC +uHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:50:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mixing a live set From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:50:30 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Right, so the best way is to eq various instruments to fit in the mix > of things or are there other tricks that might work as well or better? Well, actually that is the second best way. The best way is to use instruments that fit and play them in a way and tone register that fits well together. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 14:59:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1B8418345C; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 305 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:59:57 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_753494fe-7832-4c14-a3a3-ee7355fcc0dd_" X-Originating-IP: [84.197.29.159] From: phillip wilson To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Mixing a live set Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:54:47 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2012 14:54:48.0164 (UTC) FILETIME=[3000F240:01CDABAE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:59:57 +0000 (UTC) --_753494fe-7832-4c14-a3a3-ee7355fcc0dd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Best advice I have had in theese kind of "at a pinch " situations=2C is to = begin with the eq flat and then "cut away" anything that sounds "too much" = rather then getting into perpetual boosting of fequencies.... "kind of a wo= od for the trees way of working but it makes more sense to my ears. > Date: Mon=2C 15 Oct 2012 14:14:17 -0700 > Subject: Mixing a live set > From: billowhead@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hello=2C >=20 > In a similar question to the earlier mixing one=2C anyone got any > suggestions on how to mix a Live set so each instrument gets the best > placement and remains distinct is a loop? >=20 > I've got a Live set with a microphone=2C bass=2C guitars and wavedrum and > iPad coming in and I want to lay out the best separation and treatment > so I don't wind up with mush as I loop. Any suggestions for how best > to achieve this goal? I'm not really up to speed on the sort of > effects and process that clarify sound so any advice would be > appreciated. >=20 > Thanks=2C >=20 > Kevin >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. 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= --_753494fe-7832-4c14-a3a3-ee7355fcc0dd_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 16:06:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61F09183463; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=XLc+CJC/ItoOa5cQUH+Axxqw+3XzoqmuGGp3ZEuQBGQ=; b=HSNIJ4Zgfhn0MgpT2CTigahazAqhuT/Y+JKZPsRf9LCbHS6QHiPhKM6tF/f8Jnh5JY xNXXG0k4clW4KIG5x97SxpVvUUo5BFnWm25or6sh3H4akjgBnYCfP2N/2mmfxayOHWfE eyJQJlt+M/l/fIcYFQasdEoTdb5d5ycc8LbUDXeDtFtis3eRUYubmbJhM29nn3RQXSXH 2iJizuQG+HLcsMDTqxCU5dGX/5J5XjRrTi8yBvlWQ6sFJ0nDDkzXiMOSeo7Y6NQKZ0Qy QvSJz9n5tODwXdFENIMgyDBAEp28WN/4J7QVKd+iTANm2iiy/FevHKxBJ06XcoPmfBA7 8q6Q== References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:06:13 +0200 Message-ID: <1131040132196558530@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Mixing a live set To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343aea90fc6204cc2f5551 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:06:19 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343aea90fc6204cc2f5551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 another tip using Philips approach is to first boost the middle, then sweep the frequency till it really sounds terrible, then cut that... do that with high then low... then you probably need to increase the gain. definitely ... Cutting bad frequencies is better than boosting frequencies you think you lack. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 16 Oct 2012, at 17:00, phillip wilson wrote: Best advice I have had in theese kind of "at a pinch " situations, is to begin with the eq flat and then "cut away" anything that sounds "too much" rather then getting into perpetual boosting of fequencies.... "kind of a wood for the trees way of working but it makes more sense to my ears. --047d7b343aea90fc6204cc2f5551 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
another tip using Philips approach= is to first boost the middle, then sweep the frequency till it really soun= ds terrible, then cut that... do that with high then low... then you probab= ly need to increase the gain.
definitely ... Cutting bad frequencies is better than boosting frequen= cies you think you lack.

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On 16 Oct 2012, at 17:00, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:

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--047d7b343aea90fc6204cc2f5551-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 16:22:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BEB1183465; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OUIsoj+SWvnhvArfX7ZOxH089g4wvOrAcQ4Iqpluyt4=; b=JdIBTC6kTXJpoDTH2BgjnmQyEaKQolOQdGZKVgpqV+4yqDxgqmdh6uvjSVKRQOuaAa VqwsoEzPrbuWlA2SeAYyNpXO8kgrdZ/Df7I0BwTHDbYPmzTOMMJniCrGZSgQrDCRRrjJ 6BxxI1FO/H3tWFeHPON2tKZr2vfG7sFJyDFM65WVY1KLgfDL0PSvIOucVcFlWQpBDUl4 KnDiwL2C+vv+ABvtuisZThWhwOvhZT1QXd5LUzRDTqAD+0b2HqLew2QSBs/yP/nbo6l7 R386m4fkM8LmEPWULWaRTTdkZ3cz8OyumLWpKpzX3qiK97e/YXkQlAmbuFBQhhg7JaPJ DHug== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:21:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Rahmin Rahni at the Looping Festival From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Ooh - do check out Rahmin Rahni. He played at Luggage Store a couple months ago and was excellent. He played guitar and some contact mic'd tupperware. Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wKgiofP30U I'm sorry I can't make it to the festival this year. Work is sending me on a trip. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 18:40:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CF27183461; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xGxLz0dNf/ququRKgguHb6LIRToUzEBWyTTkjI1pdvw=; b=D1GAoX8XWr7vJ2zFYkea2P49NyKeQgkm9L25NLbxV6jvt6KKYjDiQo08bZQ5gfKUSP YWxUWPzZn6+h9UCQYjH3THwwC8tyVewonQcqhOiajV79kKjwUbOnlaStcOnGMq34Hjd3 X4MdFOdoYoERF5jsqvna19bbwfeKraePVaSDlc4rWAN2ZloKC56Une0xzVoL8Z7MsCj0 geu1DftglYzydxZEf3pLpvWoS0U+xhq9pCdoOuEXSu1NvRG1J2q54LKeLQdiurYmjE9W 49fXL9nnDsS64Uyonp9HzWvf7aRu7JvQyVZSTwSkamz23EMikJ5ZwJfsZt+f+jA5/y6N QuBQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1131040132196558530@unknownmsgid> References: <1131040132196558530@unknownmsgid> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:40:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mixing a live set From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Good advice that I wouldn't have thought of first off. My first inclination is to boost frequencies so its good to reverse the thinking and try it that (and far less likely to distort the output as well). I'm hoping I finally have the live looping rig I want with the all the elements I want available for making a ruckus. Thanks, Kevin On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:06 AM, mark francombe wrote: > another tip using Philips approach is to first boost the middle, then sweep > the frequency till it really sounds terrible, then cut that... do that with > high then low... then you probably need to increase the gain. > definitely ... Cutting bad frequencies is better than boosting frequencies > you think you lack. > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 16 Oct 2012, at 17:00, phillip wilson wrote: > > Best advice I have had in theese kind of "at a pinch " situations, is to > begin with the eq flat and then "cut away" anything that sounds "too much" > rather then getting into perpetual boosting of fequencies.... "kind of a > wood for the trees way of working but it makes more sense to my ears. > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 15:18:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9705183465; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <1131040132196558530@unknownmsgid> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: VOX STOMPLAB 1G In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF7A91BFA6BAD5_1AFC_1945E_webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37096-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF7A91BF93AFAD-1AFC-669B@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.12.115] Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:18:08 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350487089; bh=RqvQ5Rd8VhFBuQR2dJxxL2klNugQKCgilcQJV7UMejA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y0B4ulrVFl924jqsd4mqzjJItsHXEHltPqQRdv/QuObU3oilOAJDevVRThyz04yki /4CmOgMsa2v+eVV79vSYxii+UFad3by0ibb8Dq6UawyHcOabM4PahybAeHYwc0+zvs a5dbzMBlyLrsN8e5QrWeRM6XL7BQ1nUgZGbRhY8k= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:205088848:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a507ecc301670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF7A91BFA6BAD5_1AFC_1945E_webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" this caught my eye: very small, could fit in a jacket pocket, 44 amps,12 ca= bs, 100 presets, 20 memory slots, tuner, $69.00!!!!! i am curious.....if you want an expression pedal built in, $89.00, 2G versi= on..... =20 ----------MB_8CF7A91BFA6BAD5_1AFC_1945E_webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" this caught my eye: very small, cou= ld fit in a jacket pocket, 44 amps,12 cabs, 100 presets, 20 memory slots, t= uner, $69.00!!!!!

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----------MB_8CF7A91BFA6BAD5_1AFC_1945E_webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 18:22:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0E27183479; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LE4al4oo076V5ge/0UOaaJe1SFBWi9WWdgTtPEMh/cw=; b=pN11n2DRSQa/iBscD+lJICjfkfuehPswGKW5iTlvGrxqDv8kZ2mmAFb5wgeNsZx+AL iD7rTNFvXMT34kyd8jc0IB8uM4/CxHJ597KJThXv2oUB5uIAo/WEbsQKLp9v1tfthnue HQI9/N6imw3wPaKjjgyckguNGf0qNJQIaIw/9tWw3aUhIR+hGC7P4T1yeXHFUMWqwvfL irbmeerddCvE0VW1l80D/mrA5yBlfmngW9sl4Fw4UvSNp+JLJUyfgZgJC+kOKEF0JiUl q3N0qN/3HFOJwCH2uzZQx2dfaxwZJ9t+pr9E1EO2FREKHX587Rs/Nxd8LJLUFcDeJAKC sIyQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:22:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Balancing out your practice From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444ec99bb82e604cc455ab6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:22:35 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0444ec99bb82e604cc455ab6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice schedule between piano, live looping, producing and photography? it feels impossible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How can I? My looping and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to keep up my skill for both but its like i have no discipline... --f46d0444ec99bb82e604cc455ab6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice sch= edule between piano, live looping, producing and photography? it feels impo= ssible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How can I? My loopi= ng and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to keep up my skil= l for both but its like i have no discipline...

--f46d0444ec99bb82e604cc455ab6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 18:48:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B369B183476; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PKmBDQYF1VKYUBRkW/4f39Pe2V3YSbhu4tLH5t51xVQ=; b=QkLVFuxd9O+eE16WiMfudu77BsNlEHl63Ax3qBYpArQowyKaQqZm6k7NGhp2ruiwqt rOdrbJlft0F0nJ8JMKNSVtIClJo4yX+86UiMB1CckvDtcdubm8XaSZxFABybzzGzku2/ b4d6HnTOE9l0fVejDfstZ2SiI0nHc+DtKgbBqKx3kHeDzsbHi+EspQEZPjgB2BO3HiAD KKM0wnyObM/Rvrk9iYkcKwcEXxhQB4Xif/lQ9BhCX2AzU35UCRqer86d1vKyV9lYES4n 9JELWf0WHWIn5HdnHqIjPjaB5v8zCqcjNMvNZjiPptYtTXmSgHYbM9swg01p5qVXhUmn kUgw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:48:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Take at least one photo a day. Practice at least one song on piano a day. Practice looping for 15 minutes every day. Not sure what kind of production work you mean but do something similar. Keep an eye on all the things you want to do and devote a tiny bit of your attention (something that doesn't feel overly burdensome) and keep moving. I find a lot of my time in music and looping is actually gestation time where I've devoted a lot of free time to thinking about the small details so that when I have time to actually play, I find a lot of processes and procedures are no longer present (programming ideas, loop arrangements, controller settings, etc.). That's my quick take at the moment. Kevin On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:22 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice > schedule between piano, live looping, producing and photography? it feels > impossible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How can I? My > looping and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to keep up my > skill for both but its like i have no discipline... -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 18:55:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51B98183477; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8b7fdf03-5b67-4e2c-856d-ade6f7f072c1_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Balancing out your practice Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:54:55 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2012 18:54:55.0661 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5F445D0:01CDAC98] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:55:00 +0000 (UTC) --_8b7fdf03-5b67-4e2c-856d-ade6f7f072c1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In situations like that=2C I usually list the pros & perceived cons of each= activity and how each benefits my life & well-being. Which ever activity h= as the most benefits is the one I pursue more heavily. After you list the v= alues & benefits of each=2C you can also find ways to mold activities toget= her or find new activities that accomplish several of your goals at a time. Another guiding light for me has been what RJD2 said at Dubspot=2C "Chase F= un." PEACE & LOVE Date: Wed=2C 17 Oct 2012 11:22:33 -0700 Subject: Balancing out your practice From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com It feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice schedu= le between piano=2C live looping=2C producing and photography? it feels imp= ossible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How can I? My loop= ing and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to keep up my ski= ll for both but its like i have no discipline... = --_8b7fdf03-5b67-4e2c-856d-ade6f7f072c1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In situations like that=2C I usually list the pros &=3B perceived cons o= f each activity and how each benefits my life &=3B well-being. Which eve= r activity has the most benefits is the one I pursue more heavily. After yo= u list the values &=3B benefits of each=2C you can also find ways to mol= d activities together or find new activities that accomplish several of you= r goals at a time.


Another guiding light for me has been what RJ= D2 said at Dubspot=2C "Chase Fun."


PEACE &=3B LOVE

Date: Wed= =2C 17 Oct 2012 11:22:33 -0700
Subject: Balancing out your practice
F= rom: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

It = feels impossible. Is there anyway to manage a consistent practice schedule = between piano=2C live looping=2C producing and photography? it feels imposs= ible trying to squeeze all this in with homework too. How can I? My looping= and piano practice is almost non-existent now. I want to keep up my skill = for both but its like i have no discipline...
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boundary="-944809811-1136224005-1350502979=:29159" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:43:01 +0000 (UTC) ---944809811-1136224005-1350502979=:29159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's pretty challenging to take on too much and to do a great job at everyt= hing. =A0It IS TOTALLY possible though, with massive commitment & disciplin= e to be great at lots of different things. =A0=0A=0AI'm mainly an upright b= assist, but play electric bass, guitars, mandolin, cello, drums, & a bit of= flute and try to do a lot of different styles as well. =A0=0A=0AWhat=A0I'v= e found for myself, as someone who survives solely from playing music and w= ho tries to play lots of different instruments & different styles is that a= t a certain point, though it's essential to be versatile (and super fun to = learn about as many things as possible!) is that there is an eventual "hack= of all trades" syndrome that happens. =A0=0A=0ABasically, life sort of for= ces us to prioritize and we only have time to do so much in a day. =A0The m= ore time you spend on something the better you'll be at it. =A0So the more = you divide your time between instruments/styles that's less time with any o= ne instrument/style, even if it enriches your musicality over all, there is= a point where something is going to detract from something else.=0A=0APers= onally, I've never cared much about reaching a virtuoso level with any one = instrument/style, (like "all I do is play classical violin and I want to be= principal of a famous orchestra) I dig it all, but at one point a few year= s ago, I felt like I should at least have one thing that I'm best at, and t= hat thing became upright bass. =A0It's been a struggle, because a lot of th= e time I get hired as "the utility guy". =A0I'm not a killer electric slap = bassist, but if you want someone who can learn songs fast, get the changes = and groove well, who also can throw in some cello on a ballad, and cover an= acoustic guitar part on another song, then I'm that guy.=A0=0A=0ABut what = I noticed is that the guy out there who is a only a funky monster electric = bass player will get just as many gigs as I get as the "utility guy", and h= e only has to bring one instrument to the gig! So it seems like 6 of one an= d half a dozen of the other kind of situation, the only difference being th= e life of the guy who is super good at only one thing tends to have a simpl= er existence, and the utility guys might have a *slightly* better chance of= surviving, but at the price of a more scattered, non-focused existence.=A0= =0A=0AIn the end you have to "follow your bliss" you'll be great at what yo= u love doing, if you want to "chew the big bite" as I call it, you will dig= est it all, it just takes time--GOOD LUCK! Steve Uccello=0A=0Awww.clarified= birds.com ---944809811-1136224005-1350502979=:29159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's pretty challengin= g to take on too much and to do a great job at everything.  It IS TOTA= LLY possible though, with massive commitment & discipline to be great a= t lots of different things.  

I'm mainly an upright = bassist, but play electric bass, guitars, mandolin, cello, drums, & a b= it of flute and try to do a lot of different styles as well.  

=
What I've found for myself, as someone who survives solely from pla= ying music and who tries to play lots of different instruments & differ= ent styles is that at a certain point, though it's essential to be versatil= e (and super fun to learn about as many things as possible!) is that there = is an eventual "hack of all trades" syndrome that happens.  


Personally, I've never cared = much about reaching a virtuoso level with any one instrument/style, (like "= all I do is play classical violin and I want to be principal of a famous or= chestra) I dig it all, but at one point a few years ago, I felt like I shou= ld at least have one thing that I'm best at, and that thing became upright = bass.  It's been a struggle, because a lot of the time I get hired as = "the utility guy".  I'm not a killer electric slap bassist, but if you= want someone who can learn songs fast, get the changes and groove well, who also can throw in some cello on a ballad, and cover an acoustic guitar= part on another song, then I'm that guy. 

But what I notic= ed is that the guy out there who is a only a funky monster electric bass pl= ayer will get just as many gigs as I get as the "utility guy", and he only = has to bring one instrument to the gig! So it seems like 6 of one and half = a dozen of the other kind of situation, the only difference being the life = of the guy who is super good at only one thing tends to have a simpler exis= tence, and the utility guys might have a *slightly* better chance of surviv= ing, but at the price of a more scattered, non-focused existence. 

In the end you have to "follow your bliss" you= 'll be great at what you love doing, if you want to "chew the big bite" as = I call it, you will digest it all, it just takes time--GOOD LUCK! Steve Ucc= ello

www.clarifiedbirds.com



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I know that= , on Mobius, there is the option called "Groups can have Focus Lock&qu= ot;, which lets me mute Group A, but not B.

I'm wondering -- is there a way to map that parameter to a MIDI control= , so as to trigger this feature on and off with a foot pedal?

thank you!<= /div>

warmly,
Ljova


--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhur= bin

Web: http://Ljova= .com
Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.c= om/videos
IMDb: h= ttp://imdb.me/ljova
Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom
--f46d043c81ee79993e04cc76c0cc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 05:30:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E81818347C; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=kI29pCjHzwc1yQvJVj+Pne4vEbZfWjsEeswEA4RGzYA=; b=pLBjiQUBYcNKQW3/Exur6Myid6rUW7kuStc7btmwv0vhANzhNx8NzTq/BBH/TMyKcU u0cPSFJVf7vKuvsBOmAZtcoyoL6vP75xUeOG+zFTIMUmQ723HGD+y4AUThA+PQpVGZIv nTOQMjVu6+ROQHub3pYs40tlXSvF9pQrc+Y7CgwWFaWOwewg8miC2YFXjAljglGhTPUQ /Www8/Y4o7qFnTLej6V1bCl/WanmjWmPM4V55VouUcdl6laRp/PMt29KY+NnytWpWhFA OC1pMOhT4cbNn6lol7Og0By869FCrDV5BMerW6iw/tcnrtcSiIl6iKvdzQr0zNpB1Idi yq5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:30:08 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CVXLUzarz8HknJzvQYRCJcObPVE Message-ID: Subject: mobius - groups/focus lock question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db298a248f0004cc76eb86 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:30:31 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db298a248f0004cc76eb86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi there, I know that, on Mobius, there is the option called "Groups can have Focus Lock", which lets me (for instance) mute Group A, but not B. I'm wondering -- is there a way to map that parameter to a MIDI control, so as to trigger this Group Focus Lock on and off with a foot pedal? thank you so much! warmly, Ljova -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom --0016e6db298a248f0004cc76eb86 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi there,
I know that= , on Mobius, there is the option called "Groups can have Focus Lock&qu= ot;, which lets me (for instance) mute Group A, but not B.

I'm wondering -- is there a way to map that parameter to a MIDI control= , so as to trigger this Group Focus Lock on and off with a foot pedal?

thank you s= o much!

warmly,
Ljova
--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com
Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos<= br> Watch: http://Ljova.c= om/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljo= va
Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom
--0016e6db298a248f0004cc76eb86-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 07:58:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39F2418347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 07:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 334980.52876.bm@smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Xx6yfC8VM1mK2ec6KvWkjWkuiGX3lXZZOs3ZLH6K.QVKBDp u7.7bR6Tx80zeOiU20EEeCKjo4G4uBf2S5dU3GuWwPn_7fTfKs24IjdNtTI2 qItZQrToaaj4o0sCGIgvW7jORgO5qmmtmRFP6MU5gJjqkFaIupxWjf28rSZy 8Tn98w7fAao9trl0bLX0sVKuqhHnuYS2vrBJgVQ8eCqDjhwRZMM.vBPTfj79 AeafzSLC5dX2yRnqd7f5YutqnXjhPXb9jRn8qS3g3FXHnU.XNEJkTmAqye1S qlsu_wgQIcwnAJQP4kx1IJRN5dEqE2XYBv5lqFwJhZu0uk1NaR2MUw_Iv5DS GUFaLGMsQhnpsmHEn_cvnemdLMcoHBTqXfOw7zXAsVSm1ms9ISxc4CNG8g40 GNdQ7TElVGoea8EoCBewkkHXe_3oxoPqxlMvEK8ky.eKgD.E6gd_Jy1_xsNJ XXLU- X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Subject: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:58:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 07:58:04 +0000 (UTC) I'd love to hear how you all accomplish pitch shifting in live = performance. I've tried it with Mobius, but I get a lot of cutting. = Maybe my Macbook Pro isn't fast enough? (2.4Ghz, 4MB, SDD) At any rate, how do you all do it most easily? Pedals? is there a = plugin for Mainstage that I can get to do pitch shifting? It's great here in Santa Cruz, by the way, at the Live Looping Festival. = If any of you are here, please introduce yourself to me. I'm the guy = with the brown hat, black glasses, stunning good looks. Well, two out = of three of those are true. Michael Carlson TripleOhNine From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 08:44:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77FC218347C; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50826470.8050705@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 04:44:32 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:44:46 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, October 20 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will play music by an artist who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 2. I will also play music by IZZ and District 97 who will be playing at Orion Sound Studios (Baltimore, MD), New Jersey Proghouse (Dunellen, NJ), and at the new Prog Rock concert series, Prog On The Sound (Trumbull, CT). I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 09:23:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D736E18347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Dzhj/meBHynHQy6WPozRb1R1qcR6wO3mzf4M6SOmy7I=; b=I/iGJk98ZpMSMVk5IPAZ20PpLklnb253cfKYr02oUDlTvx20xv+iWoWPP9PdWBk9zd ZkUUXghU3Et+RAciC7Fhzsi4AQ+d1XOMk0gerBJUrFFEzXZIymSrhtuAlw6ebUPq1EGH MLmgMMHGTQ14k4Wk1ZFqvPWL6/M7/smiVjXex+4Qlq7n5wx+Cd2AA2aw//n0cWKVUW4b QL6ePSgAQydSCZa5yA9MV0Hf6EXLDvl3UZfMV708oJeNNMo7q70kcF+fTBQ+gSvsYxV2 8BAR7Br+tu22WtpEFmubrZdjtnvO8Cf1WiadX8lWxwT7xOiemk5CaCUrt+8nnS6v5X2b 0OYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:23:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343b20ddd57b04cc7a2d0a Resent-Message-ID: <7K4vcB.A.ziE.r2mgQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:23:55 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343b20ddd57b04cc7a2d0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use rate-shifting in mobius, I find it more reliable than the pitch shift (although I haven't tried the latest version). In terms of plugins I like pitchwheel and chopitch. Sylvain On Saturday, October 20, 2012, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote: > I'd love to hear how you all accomplish pitch shifting in live > performance. > --047d7b343b20ddd57b04cc7a2d0a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use rate-shifting in mobius, I find it more reliable than the pitch shift= (although I haven't tried the latest version).

In t= erms of plugins I like pitchwheel and chopitch.

Sylvain

On Saturday, October 20, 2012, TripleOhNine <<= a href=3D"mailto:3x09@carlsonarts.com">3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote:<= br>
I'd love to hear how you all accomplish pitch shifting in live performa= nce.=A0
--047d7b343b20ddd57b04cc7a2d0a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 09:38:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B47918347E; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=acyVKWAbSsky0xHlhguEJpoYB2E8rl1fREfapjsTn/k=; b=DTepUO1+OR6+gXKthAUWW8s/nzNrF2Vx99IOomUbJn2OfjmqMYRIV8xe1a5Wj65pU1 jkAx+Wqn19yQ8mWkRwDnN0ZEe6toi6Vhx1oZwlIvOl1Ym3L3myeEndQk6R/Ohgc1BnVO H+J0xhq2Q1IflY/pU1gpdifswEQXMRZSmg+u3vI/DffYcaglvHR4/Pi5piyhXnhk2EoF zwlPd57UkpfKTpIdW0r22AFxEPTTC8Jvy0vY/zQBryQX9vtCjyB7aG673uxNetDHXFc2 I66dHxx2dAzZFFeKFk3GcZvgWOfB+Ah3ol+fx5iRiabUTo9JuB+SczxzrLJNzmzm1oT9 ZexQ== Message-ID: <50827125.3040806@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 11:38:45 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> In-Reply-To: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, great to read those Möbius discussions here. I have been a user very early on, but with my recent move away from looped stuff I haven't used it in quite a while...but discovered there's a lot of new releases, maybe I need to catch up. Are you using the latest "major minor" release? I read that the pitch shifting has been improved performance-wise. Back when I started (PentiumIV M, 2GHz), performance was very much an issue in the complex setup I did. I had settled with MadShifta (http://bram.smartelectronix.com/plugins.php?id=2, free/open source), which is rather non-hifi - you need to see if it works for you: One example for its use (on trombone - hi Sylvain!):http://goo.gl/diXR8 There's a lot of its use on "Weird Specialist" and "MSSS" albums. Rainer Am 20.10.2012 09:58, schrieb TripleOhNine: > I'd love to hear how you all accomplish pitch shifting in live performance. I've tried it with Mobius, but I get a lot of cutting. Maybe my Macbook Pro isn't fast enough? (2.4Ghz, 4MB, SDD) > > At any rate, how do you all do it most easily? Pedals? is there a plugin for Mainstage that I can get to do pitch shifting? > > It's great here in Santa Cruz, by the way, at the Live Looping Festival. If any of you are here, please introduce yourself to me. I'm the guy with the brown hat, black glasses, stunning good looks. Well, two out of three of those are true. > > Michael Carlson > TripleOhNine > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 10:51:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AB1F18347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cxmRSysraOgvsxiHl5QpTZL9CI4hJqIkFin0gxZuX18=; b=Cwj9qlYNdY4Mcc4o0B5eTZw9EWtPcHAriEYYGE2vXpp/DbctV6YfrdJDK02u2lb9tU 0K6sv/CTin5mMzUULeifjR1mkJP5yaSZaBA0SbEjPlbtmpa/+SOvuIc+/CCxIli1A+qp ofEwVnVpi78sBfq9XXWB2kJHJ+nQ+VcB2TneSM5bABxCs2qsBcmj23PoHbWn/l9bU690 N/Z97TjC6/5LJnI5PC3Xsa7uICotgpJUdZ09s5VdOj5iD5Nz81gco/axuIbEhU8wN3kA yxLm2LYS1zIw8UF0M9cIB5T9GtFkuucOKSVi+un7qwBpqEAFBegSJ4oT3R3UGrItCd8z o8Fw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:51:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <7i48jD.A.0SF.kIogQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:51:16 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote: > how you all accomplish pitch shifting in live performance. Not sure what you mean by "pitch shifting" so my answer must be that I never *technically* do pitch shifting but I do achieve achieve shift of pitch using methods that build on sample rate shifting. Never applied on the instrument's direct sound though. My musical applications are to manipulate a looped chord into a sequence of parallel chord changes, change rhythm, build a stabbing chord hit from one pedal press, snag a 16th note slice form input sound and have it appear two octaves lower in the loop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 10:55:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C736C18347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3DblkfmuWVJL7HHbdGBGndfDfy4EnrjZ8HTu2rh+oO8=; b=BxmnDdCUIUFnyF685xXD3Cu0WuH8EJcl8xQjnb6z6WbYir6pgQKa+pTvH/d7e9ZtB1 +sLDTN5kdGAIh3ndE2m6A9UotclwLMX4WvTzKg/WS2YnoXqnT4wuALyAHMLu4IBjwkb9 6U8AEgOqrUEsQR5ZlzOcdd6StQh8u6e+LXMqB3Qe3Z8uaAHVUKzXk5HpFGrGFM8mlQ// imO3pHTL/IFtt+YV8GpolD14d4eTyNfyJosil+1QsPd0aYU04I2Co3HbtYZKXeVpLMb8 qFzvM8/v1MKHqU3XMwT+m6Vl7j70tjubs+9Jgkp2eezz0YnKh9ERz4Pa97FDKonXoM9l 7OTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:55:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius - groups/focus lock question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Yes. Any command that you can find in the MIDI Bindings window listing at "Configuratio / MID Control" can be assigned a MIDI event for external control. You can also create a script (of whatever crazy actions you want to perform on the same pedal switch) and assign the script in the MIDI Bindings window. So there's not much you can't do, really :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: > hi there, > > I know that, on Mobius, there is the option called "Groups can have Focus > Lock", which lets me (for instance) mute Group A, but not B. > > I'm wondering -- is there a way to map that parameter to a MIDI control, so > as to trigger this Group Focus Lock on and off with a foot pedal? > > thank you so much! > > warmly, > Ljova > -- > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin > > Web: http://Ljova.com > Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos > Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos > IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova > Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 11:06:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6831918347B; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 11:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Loop List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:06:06 +0200 Message-ID: <003401cdaeb2$e7149570$b53dc050$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2usNOIJxL+Bj/gQZem3dShKn+GbgAAeb+Q Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: <9PNiI.A.5qF.pWogQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 11:06:17 +0000 (UTC) GRM Tools work great for me (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2lfWTUnkrM) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 12:17:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C81BC18347E; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CpHOeNrBeAM6c/xAEJwvnj+DlhgUa6kQ4V41DyprFH4=; b=qvmDCqA2+ikjHnS84q2OMn1TjummAFeGQ3UDJSI8/+JQl0djJ5CzJciJUUrSXh+U3G SeO1KmM94I60z3As6MJIfou0bZ48HTBUdKaGFuIawhOHu8H0e0tE5M0TMavmfVJVvUk+ uT+oh1eSZjHYgKGck75yCnQa/dj+ZFM7yyHPfG360gdaytNkW8kY2ulVrnWdOI5W8aDN 0DgOnU9WMIGRs7st8+UerzVTGYoLc/7yvXakOVRiOHGiUhpNZPcw7oGBoQTR/BDJNNBn zOFIanGpA52OJl5gbYgUq53LOTuP41SOBBQA5pgxGH76nXI6S07EeSxdCM444ZSEFu1T NYHQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:17:01 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: m3hXLmmY0SuSRQxnsuwSN8w6jNA Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius - groups/focus lock question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99eac3cc4c004cc7c9afe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:17:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99eac3cc4c004cc7c9afe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per, Yes, but how? The "Groups Can Have Focus Lock" is just an item in Global Parameters, a check box... warmly, Ljova -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Yes. Any command that you can find in the MIDI Bindings window listing > at "Configuratio / MID Control" can be assigned a MIDI event for > external control. > > You can also create a script (of whatever crazy actions you want to > perform on the same pedal switch) and assign the script in the MIDI > Bindings window. > > So there's not much you can't do, really :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin > wrote: > > hi there, > > > > I know that, on Mobius, there is the option called "Groups can have Focus > > Lock", which lets me (for instance) mute Group A, but not B. > > > > I'm wondering -- is there a way to map that parameter to a MIDI control, > so > > as to trigger this Group Focus Lock on and off with a foot pedal? > > > > thank you so much! > > > > warmly, > > Ljova > > -- > > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin > > > > Web: http://Ljova.com > > Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos > > Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos > > IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova > > Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom > > --0016e6d99eac3cc4c004cc7c9afe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per,

Yes, but how? =A0The "Groups Can Have Focus Lo= ck" is just an item in Global Parameters, a check box...
warmly,
Ljova

--
Lev = 'Ljova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com
Listen: http:= //www.Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljo= va
Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom


On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. Any command that you can find in the MIDI Bindings window listing
at "Configuratio / MID Control" can be assigned a MIDI event for<= br> external control.

You can also create a script (of whatever crazy actions you want to
perform on the same pedal switch) and assign the script in the MIDI
Bindings window.

So there's not much you can't do, really :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:
> hi there,
>
> I know that, on Mobius, there is the option called "Groups can ha= ve Focus
> Lock", which lets me (for instance) mute Group A, but not B.
>
> I'm wondering -- is there a way to map that parameter to a MIDI co= ntrol, so
> as to trigger this Group Focus Lock on and off with a foot pedal?
>
> thank you so much!
>
> warmly,
> Ljova
> --
> Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin
>
> Web: http://Ljova.com
> Listen: http:= //www.Ljova.com/demos
> Watch: http://Lj= ova.com/videos
> IMDb: http://imdb.m= e/ljova
> Follow: h= ttp://twitter.com/ljovadotcom


--0016e6d99eac3cc4c004cc7c9afe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 12:22:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FC9218347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=wtIrXdM9MBCvEOwNEl48sO469olFMbCmy+9FhwR7W6Y=; b=ZbYjZ7Vu3PSNTONxJ88pbxdZTPhPMd5oTNTOTX9BFai8D+jFT9m7LvYDku0wvuw9Fe BjU44thSY6dJq/icbLukhpEBhlHMnNQuLzcTJAEyo8wpkSLfXGKB8KsXPJWNeZJQIn1l kgDBFcfjJdO/fCF6C1NGr65jYZxb8HWiF1U3FxVsVz/fBNqbcxDSXgel/wIHa6HfV8Wa uCpYVol0by8fxYojYcQHL5eNsnv1OxCWOvkMVaQR8YM4eXVruJBHqkioZaWa9Tv/FeQW 5BAxuxCHVL2UOTHmSFHbrd4PwAd9dyS4zP8oDc4zezigqLeipqDzdPin2F5xakh/CuyZ icyQ== From: Simeon Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-913854372 Subject: Re: mobius - groups/focus lock question Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:22:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:22:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-913854372 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii if your tracks will always be in the same groups, assign them to those = groups and then you can assign midi commands to act only on those = groups, or create scripts that only act on those groups. no need for = focus lock then, at all. sim On 20 Oct 2012, at 13:17, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: > Per, >=20 > Yes, but how? The "Groups Can Have Focus Lock" is just an item in = Global Parameters, a check box... >=20 > warmly, > Ljova >=20 > --=20 > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin >=20 > Web: http://Ljova.com > Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos > Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos > IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova > Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-913854372 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
if your tracks will always be in the same groups, assign them to those groups and then you can assign midi commands to act only on those groups, or create scripts that only act on those groups. no need for focus lock then, at all.

sim

On 20 Oct 2012, at 13:17, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote:

Per,

Yes, but how?  The "Groups Can Have Focus Lock" is just an item in Global Parameters, a check box...

warmly,
Ljova

--Apple-Mail-1-913854372-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 12:40:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A2A4183478; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #113868007 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX181+jJT8tg1/nzedJl6cjUhQ39gjCnAD0KJToPUHB f9Vo7+2pEf7itv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? From: Christoph Lehmann In-Reply-To: <1350240208.27300.YahooMailClassic@web163104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:40:06 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <33CA0178-B7A0-4C7A-ADA0-A480FE1102C8@gmx.de> References: <1350240208.27300.YahooMailClassic@web163104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Despite the news, i have to say that i abandoned my hope to get a lp2 I never got any reply from bob. neither to my order (which was months = ago) nor to my emails. I'm looking for a compact hardware looper for a portable jam pedalboard. = most important is midi sync, so i will probably try the pigtronix = infinity looper, when its released. But i'm certainly gonna miss the lp2's effect section dreadfully :( Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 12:40:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4984818347B; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=kajmhI3y92jXzf10oBK2vqCe7/Vce7nH9+qaU0KxXOo=; b=nCAgXQRRhRqizKrM3Jq8doPdHfHDxkLckOsxxnV8MutmhhYzfsoW41UOHiFO46SHDX gygifNGwPoQ2czcn3TdBEzEFU6OkHi0iWLpyCdfU3mYrCXh+YIh9ShAjLPK6MefdMvKP jMV2KfX0ph/LPPGJpCinLrd9a0ofxiojVeTVHxMk9evkAJkwtNOydmumnawDiFpYvZJe zdmexZWDGe4rt8FYfHZx5CySisJnIEKet68NGym+R3k3eRX1rdfcY26zg6T8bWtpitWE 1asLNACxd+yBaFM8DRFA1FPefLd1u3WEyPBrIIEETZp5BIFeBwzDvnbs9IZmLx3FE8Mp rYUA== Subject: Re: mobius - groups/focus lock question References: From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6E8F4E2B-DA78-4709-9B5F-B85865C073A2 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:40:31 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:40:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6E8F4E2B-DA78-4709-9B5F-B85865C073A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's exactly it Lev. I can show you at a starbucks if you wanna meet me. B= ut sim's explanation might be all you need.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Oct 20, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Simeon Harris w= rote: > if your tracks will always be in the same groups, assign them to those gro= ups and then you can assign midi commands to act only on those groups, or cr= eate scripts that only act on those groups. no need for focus lock then, at a= ll. >=20 > sim >=20 > On 20 Oct 2012, at 13:17, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: >=20 >> Per, >>=20 >> Yes, but how? The "Groups Can Have Focus Lock" is just an item in Global= Parameters, a check box... >>=20 >> warmly, >> Ljova >>=20 >> --=20 >> Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin >>=20 >> Web: http://Ljova.com >> Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos >> Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos >> IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova >> Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-6E8F4E2B-DA78-4709-9B5F-B85865C073A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
That's exactly it Lev. I c= an show you at a starbucks if you wanna meet me. But sim's explanation might= be all you need. 

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

On Oct 20, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
if your tracks will a= lways be in the same groups, assign them to those groups and then you can as= sign midi commands to act only on those groups, or create scripts that only a= ct on those groups. no need for focus lock then, at all.

sim

On 20 Oct 2012, at 13:17, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin w= rote:

Per,

Yes, but how?  The "Groups Can Have Focus Lock= " is just an item in Global Parameters, a check box...

<= div>warmly,
Ljova

= --Apple-Mail-6E8F4E2B-DA78-4709-9B5F-B85865C073A2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 12:51:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 142FE18347C; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bkGobMFiVyg3TYqFIW9nQboK9dRgsxpd3KVbWpg4Xqs=; b=EEjAyi+twE2J4kk3vvI/2h0xzyzCQwEaf1MvD0fTheVXhYELD+2h8d/PR2roUTkvoD DEK8qDejJNm5hdYeEn2ymGFlx4l1ho3AEiwi/pm4TZxZcNmq7NEmgWc6D4PHKVpMuEqU Husp0g8HJjgx6fugQmBAE5He25Xi3+4fgxc4cMNZgJE3l0U6AF2uc4ISxV/YcGQLpnfJ GT241iHKtA8SvvvxZDV4znFFagm0F3U/muUVGlL3Zrx9hG1tN8aqHL6Ir3hOZl/Je94f WrT+yChBAq5vB4l0TdJtkCu5iO8bTSqheDyg9FJpnmxZwss3IAe7uM3c4vdtFChVSW20 uH1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:50:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lKv050PbUHNOeVKxU8gXlbCTb8k Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius - groups/focus lock question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99eac5d7e6f04cc7d1399 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:51:15 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99eac5d7e6f04cc7d1399 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sim, are you suggesting that I assign controls to, for example, "Record - Group A"; "Mute - Group B"? -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > if your tracks will always be in the same groups, assign them to those > groups and then you can assign midi commands to act only on those groups, > or create scripts that only act on those groups. no need for focus lock > then, at all. > > sim > > On 20 Oct 2012, at 13:17, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: > > Per, > > Yes, but how? The "Groups Can Have Focus Lock" is just an item in Global > Parameters, a check box... > > warmly, > Ljova > > -- > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin > > Web: http://Ljova.com > Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos > Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos > IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova > Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom > > > --0016e6d99eac5d7e6f04cc7d1399 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sim,
are you suggesting that I assign controls to, for example, "R= ecord - Group A"; "Mute - Group B"?


--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com
Listen: http://www= .Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova
Follow: http:/= /twitter.com/ljovadotcom


On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Simeon = Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
if your tracks will always be in t= he same groups, assign them to those groups and then you can assign midi co= mmands to act only on those groups, or create scripts that only act on thos= e groups. no need for focus lock then, at all.

sim

On 20 Oct 2012= , at 13:17, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote:

Per,

Yes, but how? =A0The "Groups Can Have F= ocus Lock" is just an item in Global Parameters, a check box...

warmly,
Ljova


--0016e6d99eac5d7e6f04cc7d1399-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 12:52:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 287BA18347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=IvQHkKtJgphrITBjh0UwxHAdAK8YwPnyR2Q3k3sEpaw=; b=RsNSvFTpmCyT9bi5/SaWHtp2A09GE6u0wHbCl+TokCmiLB2VXfTYFHV+EbtKWjDqnH EAskWO6cgQSGakEGwPV6N7QJYm7VxnGS3KMICJmtSVpo/LpMpGH2Gxw3QvgXvPKDo0WO BWse8j5EhEz2MIidH3AN1XTqqKZFUWqzwf2Fly1t9JM83hCu26/+4UbnjBAARAMRJsWd IyaF3xjqaKaHV8i0jYK8CvGUOG+qzx5GIagIlqw7XbiQTahgVVl5eLAYd0J+v0I8fLrq 34lRp8cthyDbC50TGrNZ2i2tI3ElPXhrArUvheTsVpE48lF8gLfayLKSYJjb1zku5qHM DKXg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:52:08 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NVyoveIGMHgsG5yfsPfWNST_vO0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius - groups/focus lock question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044280bacd17e704cc7d17e2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:52:30 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044280bacd17e704cc7d17e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Todd, must be it be a Starbucks? :) -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > That's exactly it Lev. I can show you at a starbucks if you wanna meet me. > But sim's explanation might be all you need. > > Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) > > On Oct 20, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > if your tracks will always be in the same groups, assign them to those > groups and then you can assign midi commands to act only on those groups, > or create scripts that only act on those groups. no need for focus lock > then, at all. > > sim > > On 20 Oct 2012, at 13:17, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: > > Per, > > Yes, but how? The "Groups Can Have Focus Lock" is just an item in Global > Parameters, a check box... > > warmly, > Ljova > > -- > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin > > Web: http://Ljova.com > Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos > Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos > IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova > Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom > > > --f46d044280bacd17e704cc7d17e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd, must be it be a Starbucks? :)

--
Lev 'L= jova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com
Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.c= om/videos
IMDb: h= ttp://imdb.me/ljova
Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom


On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Todd Re= ynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
That's exactly it Lev. I can show you at = a starbucks if you wanna meet me. But sim's explanation might be all yo= u need.=A0

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

On Oct 20, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Simeon Harris = <sime= onharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

if your tracks will always be in the same groups, assign them to = those groups and then you can assign midi commands to act only on those gro= ups, or create scripts that only act on those groups. no need for focus loc= k then, at all.

sim

On 20 Oct 2012, at 13:17, Lev &#= 39;Ljova' Zhurbin wrote:

Per,
Yes, but how? =A0The "Groups Can Have Focus Lock" is= just an item in Global Parameters, a check box...

warmly,
Ljova


--f46d044280bacd17e704cc7d17e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 13:29:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F60618347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=OPJee5BqNF8qgSCkNCLPOlWDqRxI8EkyUf+SrCqXQ44=; b=WBVcJRMTOOmk7HH5Y1sALPOoE0fps4I4V+tHBTx8CmTyP9RPxFHWtlNrzp29iao+hO 8cgk62RH8lcKTKPvWS/ZVgqXlxwFl1tN8h7VDa6ydrapL8BaFuihjJ5FBcbAdW+OeR/t zQqeeMFT7zVH+eJUEprWTuxa4ped2eqTnwqV5GoDslrc4W+/Kh/SkxYCYkgxvNketFQb Ccj3zL55iV896unNNnRhhMZh6FbljOPkwPnjX2FfDWnPxMBhHUMYiDMWq7w2ta/Yrtln PoFI6Ni1BSgcOn0g4/UVTN4YxKJQnWt9Yw5lJGw9x/k+z9pt+xErTiOCsudAtnzXVmDT +gGQ== Subject: Re: mobius - groups/focus lock question References: From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4773082F-5327-4DB0-B7DB-2A1DAE7F01AA X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:29:01 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:29:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4773082F-5327-4DB0-B7DB-2A1DAE7F01AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My last choice for coffee, my first choice for ubiquity. Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Oct 20, 2012, at 8:52 AM, "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" wrote: > Todd, must be it be a Starbucks? :) > > -- >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-4773082F-5327-4DB0-B7DB-2A1DAE7F01AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
My last choice for coffee, my first choice for ubiquity. 

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

On Oct 20, 2012, at 8:52 AM, "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:

Todd, must be it be a Starbucks? :)

--



--Apple-Mail-4773082F-5327-4DB0-B7DB-2A1DAE7F01AA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 13:30:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0461C18347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=5Tx+AqVZsfEee61IMWz7Y1b7RuP+jgjPBoDDjRxCcqk=; b=LtPwFizHOArK7eMlp+oEFGAesdZdTU+5vhG+wqKxdCQ604u6Uc3roO4Ks7CLDp8pFw Fac5RpJX5UDYC0uAeg4E5GiqIqGzd2ALWvgdkIg0XLIu+xFcnoFJ206Hnxyh8wOigGXa EJN2JyELF25e3VwKGvt0LuWW/10/2Oa0kVf82S9IDIhz6wDj/NNiU74+5iV0QTUjkjNr R6mIfmV73csp4mQkhEUCAdpOBqs0hfDrZkv+05BsaqH7A0x9pCKi3bJ8WgTNqeIt1xUN w+EbscHCiEaDnEZ6z03zxVnfa7/ccv1uWuFnobXoPLzJ55VLVFDDjOkF3jdmA5Zyy9Ow 0Hig== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: mobius - groups/focus lock question From: Simeon Harris In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:30:40 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <02760021-5DE2-421C-B9C7-3476B6898EB0@googlemail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:30:43 +0000 (UTC) yes, you can do that sim On 20 Oct 2012, at 13:50, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: > Sim, > are you suggesting that I assign controls to, for example, "Record - = Group A"; "Mute - Group B"? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 15:53:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC93918347B; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=T3Y7d2Dp9zrl6RHhO2hOy/6kKQbBYb6WU98LHz/2wHLmoYyI4BkVWrSrJGIPQDXC; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 11:53:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7919b070cf8d81f66ba5f8968fce6dbb28350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:53:10 +0000 (UTC) I use hardware: An ensoniq DP/4+... There is a pitch shifter in mainstage, but it doe not have a feedback control. You can set up a series of auxes feeding auxes, but mainstage wil mute the audio if it "detects feedback". >I'd love to hear how you all accomplish pitch shifting in live >performance. I've tried it with Mobius, but I get a lot of cutting. >Maybe my Macbook Pro isn't fast enough? (2.4Ghz, 4MB, SDD) > >At any rate, how do you all do it most easily? Pedals? is there a >plugin for Mainstage that I can get to do pitch shifting? > >It's great here in Santa Cruz, by the way, at the Live Looping >Festival. If any of you are here, please introduce yourself to me. >I'm the guy with the brown hat, black glasses, stunning good looks. >Well, two out of three of those are true. > >Michael Carlson >TripleOhNine -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 16:27:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D035A18347B; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iHCFcJns48VsRmeeqacT3zed0bHfV2DJz3FSOhMaSuc=; b=Yq9vjYj+SWXSyxUFD0yvoCXbGtpWBoo7g5jnMXG7XLTEpZNnUzBDP5BFaF15VWt248 j6qpjnzZDk6tWr8qdGlXYJmHJoH8cyw5wylxxPJSn4AkYLWB+sk+3kz+dplJ4FHnIXbJ kGB+b4tkf5rTyfXgL18F8d3NO3SVs491qlCAGR6xK8HpW7U7IJf6yIzF3OimwcCADAtj VLihlshJeSVm5+RmvYdlthYrkSh7NjSJG6S72BNFOpkuBYpnFkI2H/Fhc37dX9Y0LkKp X/yx3D6ojDWAftXgxW0xYXXShZQIU+Oa2qu9+feecGrfaeHyWgEFwGnLtxNXXM4TLwXL MSEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:27:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:27:28 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > There is a pitch shifter in mainstage, but it doe not have a feedback > control. You can set up a series of auxes feeding auxes, but mainstage wil > mute the audio if it "detects feedback". I use that one, "PitchShifter II", but always set to wet on a parallel track due to the bad latency it induces. The latency of the pitched shifted signal is still being delayed but at least the not pitch shifted signal goes free from the extra latency. I use it set at -5 so the shifted signal will be lower in pitch and allow the non pitched signal to take the lead for fidelity and timing issues :-) If you are looking for the feedback pitch shifting thing it is better to get a third-party plugin that does it well, for example Expert Sleeper's Crossfade Loop Synth or SoundToy's Crystallizer (I have others too that I don't mention, these two are the best IMHO) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 16:32:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3647C18347C; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=KmUF2bNYmWdfNfAZpTPuIU3Dvvs05yBWZe19iAnzQlw=; b=P64Zq6MdcaBhiEJo8rFPie1lIrJ3q3ZBwytqTOHwHUVAU3yT5iFrRybgoIvOF7d0qZ CcrWz2x97TksfwFhLvqVgbEujtbRn2Xt6+Kn8vXIyRxn1lmcZuAwyAZ7MIxiFgHOmv1C 8NjlB0dWtPj5qHXgHQ7TdjUuHrYVHjWDvpY7OzkkqrrZBm5CiSUs1hZNTGtHx8l2FfpJ 6+anbiDiMam5QkEQOEknzdLF4YOKEhe3wMKTSqI8QjXibBruaNCBRUH/Ip0TKGlhysLk l0RcTcNIwJFYv9Xa0c3UyOEi74PDQZydV82Q7OubyS9cgAUCoqnLTGWKU70RM/q0oYac sJsA== References: <5080839B.2090008@pobox.com> <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> <5081F158.3010607@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <5081F158.3010607@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A403) From: Theweg Subject: Re: Any news on the LP1? Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:27:54 -0400 To: "7stringjazz@gmail.com" <7stringjazz@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Same here, glad to see progress no matter how slow. Looking forward to the r= eviews. Weg Sent from my iPad On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:33 PM, 7stringjazz wrote: > Thanks guys, I have not used mine in months so was wondering what the stat= us was. I did see that Bob made a drive by posting on Looperlative a few wee= ks ago and with Rick's news on 1.4 maybe we will see it soon. >=20 > On 10/19/2012 1:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay by one week, but I've been g= iven >> 1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature laden) 1.39,= to beta test. >> Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it now, as= we speak. >>=20 >> It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady workable LP-2= Mini Looper out to the market >> coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week have l= ed to the delays. >>=20 >> He's not shipping LP-2s. It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last night a= t touch the looper and I'll be using >> mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and enhan= ce fidelity from the first iteration, >> so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, thankful= to say. >>=20 >> Rick Walker >>=20 >> On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixed on that v= ersion citing that previously stable features had been broken. (not the fir= st time the upgrades had that issue). Some people say 1.34 was the last sta= ble version. That says something. (google: 'looperlative 1.34 stable' ) >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://Soundclick.com/7stringjazz > http://Soundcloud.com/7stringjazz >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 16:49:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACA4318347C; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 778762.69822.bm@smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: eiSwj94VM1kSYxa8v4N1KvcKNKAWabfkLMBNnreJ5QZNCRz KGRR3BOLBSdNaDqjR9NjBfSHSp_aamc8HJItPgOsQ4UQiQc6o.qjErWcjnCr M_KiJpmXGVsqcncyKKd5xITT6.VTHeY4I5M8K2hqDRGXJJMP0FP7b26v8ve4 YFSMM9CKEjDHZznIfBvSNiD.4OBcoqK_tkoB0793tRXCAJysUonHZ9CNaCib 0OIKULtgt6.Iz8O.HvIqMSUN9uKTd7YOlN56SMIEsQ7u2BQSsjw0Eq3ptNah egrFmwWqWpQtIn1KFFVskuHBf7fg5ILyy5RWIzrzA7QOohSTJaLlaK1HXfTc uB2iw4LlFPR9tWqE.HKm1pVe9IBNOzYj5ucick3sEF32Tb836vNxRtPWNALd hKc_pmk2AvRdcUYrnn1.YsQej9FGAl7aJrMhRC3VM8upNifbId4UbU5h1yS1 cfo4jh.B9ohPpmpcwlcz4UkRG8YAhjRt8jfE1rN1rzDZvlAHYEyGSinrbQ9x Iza6d_0Wih93xMq54EnscCTIjLPBzNcgnrRNaaOWOwNaqWC2Lz8Ry_AEOBT2 EWBkTTZ3CgttHYC9P9xwzIWxknvDw0ppLjPivAIJTZA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:49:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, guys. More specifically, I want to sing a monophonic diatonic = melody and loop it, then be able to transpose it to any key using a = keyboard. the original signal at the original pitch goes to the looping = device or plug in, and the keyboard sends the midi commands to the = device or plug in to tell it to what note(s) I want the loop transposed = to. Even better, I want to create chord changes, or at least a bass = line that changes between I IV V and such, and capture that in another = loop so I don't have to build the harmonies one by one, or sing a bass = line three times, which can be pedantic. Is this clear? Given this goal, which of the suggestions so far do you = think would be best for me to use? I'd prefer a plugin by the way, if = possible. Michael Carlson 3x09 =20 On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Charles Zwicky = wrote: >> There is a pitch shifter in mainstage, but it doe not have a feedback >> control. You can set up a series of auxes feeding auxes, but = mainstage wil >> mute the audio if it "detects feedback". >=20 >=20 > I use that one, "PitchShifter II", but always set to wet on a parallel > track due to the bad latency it induces. The latency of the pitched > shifted signal is still being delayed but at least the not pitch > shifted signal goes free from the extra latency. I use it set at -5 so > the shifted signal will be lower in pitch and allow the non pitched > signal to take the lead for fidelity and timing issues :-) >=20 > If you are looking for the feedback pitch shifting thing it is better > to get a third-party plugin that does it well, for example Expert > Sleeper's Crossfade Loop Synth or SoundToy's Crystallizer (I have > others too that I don't mention, these two are the best IMHO) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 17:13:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 737DF18347C; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FvzI2j/B2c3CwgU4Ig8inw91XULIkYTknhtuGzHsiMM=; b=HxsgfiYa3JZnbYEmD4+im/Yq05iCV3zb09tbjrVuCA0XyvXrn96KHMsBNVTiN/Yh15 KKDu+nKRy+p7XTvUhwm1ui9HJuieno0ZPeAdrrn6FOhZO7rN2zSqRsgE7ux4uYTE8ciG UBVHCCwAR/CfstIDidmDF+CJBraVfUu4sWBSTQS1tQqdO/ymZd76ajOH6KcJ32OXwESv yRnG5dHR7zz9c8syaQYK4cioffElZhIgiB6Dt+rWWTdJe9zJkgGKjljdxai+XNx1kE3g ovws/2HCPv5e3+lIiiiGNz35m/K0pQtagIVS0J+DpnuegkMYsQ3qzvKjWaxKxiX0AMnb O9lg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:13:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Have a look at pitchwheel (there's a free demo). It will shift when it receives a midi note so this should work for you. It is cpu hungry... Sylvain On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote= : > Thanks, guys. More specifically, I want to sing a monophonic diatonic me= lody and loop it, then be able to transpose it to any key using a keyboard.= the original signal at the original pitch goes to the looping device or p= lug in, and the keyboard sends the midi commands to the device or plug in t= o tell it to what note(s) I want the loop transposed to. Even better, I w= ant to create chord changes, or at least a bass line that changes between I= IV V and such, and capture that in another loop so I don't have to build t= he harmonies one by one, or sing a bass line three times, which can be peda= ntic. > > Is this clear? Given this goal, which of the suggestions so far do you t= hink would be best for me to use? I'd prefer a plugin by the way, if possi= ble. > > Michael Carlson > 3x09 > > > On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Charles Zwicky = wrote: >>> There is a pitch shifter in mainstage, but it doe not have a feedback >>> control. You can set up a series of auxes feeding auxes, but mainstag= e wil >>> mute the audio if it "detects feedback". >> >> >> I use that one, "PitchShifter II", but always set to wet on a parallel >> track due to the bad latency it induces. The latency of the pitched >> shifted signal is still being delayed but at least the not pitch >> shifted signal goes free from the extra latency. I use it set at -5 so >> the shifted signal will be lower in pitch and allow the non pitched >> signal to take the lead for fidelity and timing issues :-) >> >> If you are looking for the feedback pitch shifting thing it is better >> to get a third-party plugin that does it well, for example Expert >> Sleeper's Crossfade Loop Synth or SoundToy's Crystallizer (I have >> others too that I don't mention, these two are the best IMHO) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 17:18:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9FE9183481; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mgc/mwf4K+1YE19r53xFxyRUVVcO9TkZYorgrv7uDW1ojM0hwtbFz8NPb5YYhGEO; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:18:06 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79226227d251d75bfce922927a804f7fc1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:18:12 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to mention two other pitch plugins: Discord3 http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD025 Valhalla Shimmer: http://www.valhalladsp.com/valhallashimmer At 6:27 PM +0200 10/20/12, Per Boysen wrote: >On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: >> There is a pitch shifter in mainstage, but it doe not have a feedback >> control. You can set up a series of auxes feeding auxes, but mainstage wil >> mute the audio if it "detects feedback". > > >I use that one, "PitchShifter II", but always set to wet on a parallel >track due to the bad latency it induces. The latency of the pitched >shifted signal is still being delayed but at least the not pitch >shifted signal goes free from the extra latency. I use it set at -5 so >the shifted signal will be lower in pitch and allow the non pitched >signal to take the lead for fidelity and timing issues :-) > >If you are looking for the feedback pitch shifting thing it is better >to get a third-party plugin that does it well, for example Expert >Sleeper's Crossfade Loop Synth or SoundToy's Crystallizer (I have >others too that I don't mention, these two are the best IMHO) > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.perboysen.com >http://www.youtube.com/perboysen -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 17:20:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAE7218347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=d4KKFYFnJc0xJYWI3iAQyYMnObHxrPGy9UQO/+sKqcmad/Ps+uNb3hh9/SSsXXsj; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:20:49 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79d8ff112ec61f2e78c82e45fd33ceedfd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:20:57 +0000 (UTC) That's a different story.. there are few plugins that offer "clean" diatonic shifts, but it is possible to use pitch correction like Yamaha's "Pitch Fix" that way... >Thanks, guys. More specifically, I want to sing a monophonic >diatonic melody and loop it, then be able to transpose it to any key >using a keyboard. the original signal at the original pitch goes to >the looping device or plug in, and the keyboard sends the midi >commands to the device or plug in to tell it to what note(s) I want >the loop transposed to. Even better, I want to create chord >changes, or at least a bass line that changes between I IV V and >such, and capture that in another loop so I don't have to build the >harmonies one by one, or sing a bass line three times, which can be >pedantic. > >Is this clear? Given this goal, which of the suggestions so far do >you think would be best for me to use? I'd prefer a plugin by the >way, if possible. > >Michael Carlson >3x09 > > >On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Charles Zwicky >> wrote: >>> There is a pitch shifter in mainstage, but it doe not have a feedback >>> control. You can set up a series of auxes feeding auxes, but >>>mainstage wil >>> mute the audio if it "detects feedback". >> >> >> I use that one, "PitchShifter II", but always set to wet on a parallel >> track due to the bad latency it induces. The latency of the pitched >> shifted signal is still being delayed but at least the not pitch >> shifted signal goes free from the extra latency. I use it set at -5 so >> the shifted signal will be lower in pitch and allow the non pitched >> signal to take the lead for fidelity and timing issues :-) >> >> If you are looking for the feedback pitch shifting thing it is better >> to get a third-party plugin that does it well, for example Expert >> Sleeper's Crossfade Loop Synth or SoundToy's Crystallizer (I have >> others too that I don't mention, these two are the best IMHO) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 17:24:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FE5618347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RePOGgS0Ai0j8zEx0lkYAA3UBHrbh8N4kIHf1//Cr6c=; b=PYR1bJUtNoucBfXByaoQX2i2KG4rLyiJN+8ADZQn5Cb5PMqbyimMjMTqWfjsR/1MmU 6KbBbqLYaSdkTZHagaDctqM2lzYn6tUgqb12bIgaBldYU+2zBkq6ZIgnugUX2LW0719T IqcuDJJB7X2klbc5qKmQ9/fhCGH8srki6p3OXJceJwSnC/Y7cOwWgVC7X2P9hqM6FF9v PB16bduInMiAGd+ff0FsueGtSIUBi9ufL+GTYSFQCZ6DWLy2Ruf5DOz9bdBxpA82RHls Cr1fvN5jzGlKmUFf16CUBWdnYw0dBkPgr4Nci5sZ3mzIPba8q9nHWFo4Vg899Nve8128 argA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0808BFA4-56A8-4738-902F-A64A3A453A69@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:24:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do you all do pitch shifting in performance? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, I take it you don't want the looped melody to change its length, that we are now talking real pitch shifting. Given the Electrixpro Repeater is discontinued the best way to achieve this I know about would be to use Ableton Live and record your melody as an Audio Clip (not using its Looper plugin). But as I remember this procedure it is not particularly transparent in a performing situation. You can assign a MIDI CC# to transpose the clip's pitch (using Ableton terminology here) but it works on the selected and recording track, so you need to keep it that way. When I did "chord changes" on the EDP (as I do it today with the Mobius looper) I build each chord as a separate loop (because it sounds a lot better than technical pitch shifting). I have one MIDI pedal board bank for this: the first five switches are for direct triggering (on the set shift quantize value) of each loop. Besides this the switch for loop #1 doubles up as the Record Button IF nothing has yet been recorded into the looper (but when the looper is not in Reset Mode this switch works as just another Direct Loop Call switch). I also have a switch for Overdub and one for Multiply, in case I want to work a little longer on one loop than just the basic one or two bar length. With this setup you can create five alternative chord loops in one quick action. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:49 PM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote: > Thanks, guys. More specifically, I want to sing a monophonic diatonic me= lody and loop it, then be able to transpose it to any key using a keyboard.= the original signal at the original pitch goes to the looping device or p= lug in, and the keyboard sends the midi commands to the device or plug in t= o tell it to what note(s) I want the loop transposed to. Even better, I w= ant to create chord changes, or at least a bass line that changes between I= IV V and such, and capture that in another loop so I don't have to build t= he harmonies one by one, or sing a bass line three times, which can be peda= ntic. > > Is this clear? Given this goal, which of the suggestions so far do you t= hink would be best for me to use? I'd prefer a plugin by the way, if possi= ble. > > Michael Carlson > 3x09 > > > On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Charles Zwicky = wrote: >>> There is a pitch shifter in mainstage, but it doe not have a feedback >>> control. You can set up a series of auxes feeding auxes, but mainstag= e wil >>> mute the audio if it "detects feedback". >> >> >> I use that one, "PitchShifter II", but always set to wet on a parallel >> track due to the bad latency it induces. The latency of the pitched >> shifted signal is still being delayed but at least the not pitch >> shifted signal goes free from the extra latency. I use it set at -5 so >> the shifted signal will be lower in pitch and allow the non pitched >> signal to take the lead for fidelity and timing issues :-) >> >> If you are looking for the feedback pitch shifting thing it is better >> to get a third-party plugin that does it well, for example Expert >> Sleeper's Crossfade Loop Synth or SoundToy's Crystallizer (I have >> others too that I don't mention, these two are the best IMHO) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 18:19:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47F7F183479; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5082EB2D.4080401@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:19:25 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for October 20, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121020.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #235 October 20, 2012. On today's show, I played music by IZZ and District 97 who will be playing at Orion Sound Studios (Baltimore, MD), New Jersey Proghouse (Dunellen, NJ), and at the new Prog Rock concert series, Prog On The Sound (Trumbull, CT). http://njproghouse.com http://progonthesound.com http://orionsound.com http://izznet.com http://district97.net I also played music by a group that will be playing at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 2, 8 pm, at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Loren Nerell Persistence of Slow Dream (Projekt) Dream Imagery VA [Howard Armitage] Earthrise Sequences No. 21 VA [Howard Armitage] Peace Sequences No. 21 Hunter and Harrison Gas To Plasma - Phase 1 (Music With Space) Ionization Craig Padill and Blue Distance When the Earth Is Far Away Zero Ohms (Lotispike) Parallel Worlds and Denormal Morphogenic (DiN) Dave Bessell Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Christopher Boscole A Distant Universe Floating On a Melody (none) Michele McLaughlin Breathing In the Breathing In the Moment (none) Marc Enfroy Waiting for Sunrise Dreams of the Forest (none) Moment Ciro Hurtado Aguas Los Angeles Blues (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== District 97 Back and Forth Trouble With Machines (Laser's Edge) IZZ Assurance Sliver of a Sun (Doone) District 97 The Actual Color Trouble With Machines (Laser's Edge) Leslie Hunt All the Way Your Hair Is On Fire (Ellenel) IZZ Late Night Salvation My River Flows (Doone) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine and play music in support of the Soundscapes Concert Series on December 2. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 19:47:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9214C183481; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :thread-index:mime-version:content-type; bh=l1Pz8cUKHymf4ytAzANbfO/OfTYgViIOra48TnBEQFg=; b=h4HUBdNP1iyuQi88SpnhKWzNA5y7b45/O89yJ1RhC2zqIOoepfDFa3YcwSsImMJHWw laWf4DNOiTmIQpn2jqOjUNgA5oZDUOKoBVmzKq0de1wC6HV3K633n+5f6pDhntPgFPqe D16NOzf0Cjpy5ai6IeOglWAmHTmRQ/Zo67fE8KtDscd+SekO2Qjd6U3ani0/s+7tiT5J NudrqnkezY9vFpO6ijuuX/WrSVWHL8gXQtnbetuSQ6nHoYzrKpqftlFDtpRRXyeVpw1I RFDy0wf85sNH8qswKzKYfUukhRSvwtY2zm5pcKK385CngqahMzaI2OZo6egnfEckNbLQ rTFA== User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.32.0.111121 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400 Subject: Introduction and invitation From: Alisa Apreleva To: LD Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Introduction and invitation Thread-Index: Ac2u+63U6W22d/Ju2kK9Nh7BqkCXNQ== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3433592826_3302046" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:47:08 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3433592826_3302046 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone,=20 Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=B9ve just recently joined this list, so I=B9d like to introduce myself. My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012, 8 pm. =20 Have a happy weekend! Alisa Apreleva --B_3433592826_3302046 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Introduction and invitation Hello everyone,

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I’ve j= ust recently joined this list, so I’d like to introduce myself.

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And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, consi= der joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012, = 8 pm.  



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-t- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 21:31:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D89318347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IgmBafYugmL2ikfdMAhW6jOuvUqNwQxw10oLecbU64I=; b=VM+wcHi7bsyYFaTus9QvVScMI4Y7JbWX/fZt5ZTN0BLYbaT7qtKBdXUmHD6poE9ddG P3w+8D18Nl26Bh521/Uj5KxQecW7so1SoRrO5fAo6EoN62FgUvdqcAFG3rTvuoxdhoam 9CiXBupmqWo64h2jA+gMdJhhuJpg98rPMA0GseAO1f0qnJ/e/UZoW403dZGyp7hshs2g bB4yctrlPM/OFWd0YZoL3Ro8palxdf1Eu8Oo0edxdQzs3Wb7XYW1G1OBxZ1XTmaaUE6s IZVaWZYVm7ZyKWPHFFmopYaGJcYnONEzKzG5cc4VTLLMtIWPlqLxXH9YJZSDhDS85H6y 8oNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:31:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move on. I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius. I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc. The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi tracks. There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up any possibilities either. Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). I think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem to actually work that way at all. Thanks, Kevin > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> >> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem >> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track >> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I >> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. >> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go forward). >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson >> wrote: >> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels. >> > If >> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your >> > audio >> > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to >> > "pins" >> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host. >> > >> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input and >> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. >> > They >> > all default to 1. >> > >> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers >> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, >> > you'll >> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not >> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton >> > and >> > Bidule both support this. >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > >> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" wrote: >> > >> >>Hello Mobius users, >> >> >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual >> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick >> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd >> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully >> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. >> >> >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), >> >> >> >>Kevin >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> >> trouble. >> >> >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 21:39:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E59EC18347B; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=h08CWLlrAmPIXt4Vn3CiFzYzts0lfb3rndJ18tJTsS8=; b=n6z5qM+VHCajKzIkB6MxeJyX1EihHtiYXd7U/OuX7IqUZRhEjC6avxfn0/MsXHNTUj tQQTd612fn28G0lUEhvSAmazXTKvVeIPpwWmPpYKOVVq83m1b7OXfiFJF2mCdTThXOZ4 t1EEhE1Q93eUeIOWMPJddzT0/eNz4SY8nouqc79d2WdvYORtfLY4FthFZThcuaqncKjO jB3C6g3BvrCChSM5Um+PanFze9mfLPr8cswJ7WONban00y8SRdYs/Tge0uUf9ukp4fLa IqWmdcJPli2bD6oY2H/5l//QxN7M70wVKfN0JiIWBhd0+oM9/38cnMQjkvyyc/pxfcjA Mh9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:38:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54a325ecdbdb104cc84722e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:39:01 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54a325ecdbdb104cc84722e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sure, actually Per has on his blog a complete explanation, so I'd do some searching there. Basically, if you've assigned your outputs in Mobius, then make 7 additional tracks in addition to the audio track in which Mobius sits. Next, in each of those tracks, assign the INPUT of the track to be the track that Mobius is on. Next, in the pull down menu right below, you'll see Mobius 3-4, Mobius 5-6, and so on. Voila. Tell me if that doesn't work or is not clear! but you are not dense. It is not obvious, but the Input from needs to be the track that Mobius is on. Rename it Mobius. It's easier. That track alone takes "output 1" . The next tracks take "output2, 3, thru 8". If you're using the audio unit plugin, then you'll see stereo inputs to those channels. T. On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move on= . > > I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there > are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius. > > I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug > in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc. > > The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any > options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi > tracks. There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up any > possibilities either. > > Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). I > think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem > to actually work that way at all. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando < > billowhead@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem > >> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track > >> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I > >> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. > >> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go > forward). > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson > > >> wrote: > >> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channel= s. > >> > If > >> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your > >> > audio > >> > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to > >> > "pins" > >> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the hos= t. > >> > > >> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input > and > >> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. > >> > They > >> > all default to 1. > >> > > >> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers > >> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, > >> > you'll > >> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not > >> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableto= n > >> > and > >> > Bidule both support this. > >> > > >> > Jeff > >> > > >> > > >> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" > wrote: > >> > > >> >>Hello Mobius users, > >> >> > >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual > >> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick > >> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd > >> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully > >> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. > >> >> > >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with > >> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), > >> >> > >> >>Kevin > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to hav= e > a > >> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > >> >> trouble. > >> >> > >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >> >> > >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > >> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a > >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > >> > >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >> > >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > --=20 call me at 917.576.6166 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 *The Best Classical Music of the Year, 2011* - Amazon.com =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://mymicrolife.tumblr.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds need me right away? Call or text me at 917.576.6166 --bcaec54a325ecdbdb104cc84722e Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sure, =A0actually Per has on his blog a complete explanation, so I'd do= some searching there. =A0

Basically, if you've assi= gned your outputs in Mobius, then make 7 additional tracks in addition to t= he audio track in which Mobius sits. =A0

Next, in each of those tracks, assign the INPUT of the = track to be the track that Mobius is on. =A0Next, in the pull down menu rig= ht below, you'll see Mobius 3-4, Mobius 5-6, and so on. =A0

Voila. Tell me if that doesn't work or is not clear!=A0

but you are not dense. =A0It is not obvious, but the I= nput from needs to be the track that Mobius is on. =A0Rename it Mobius. =A0= It's easier. =A0That track alone takes "output 1" . The next = tracks take "output2, 3, thru 8". =A0If you're using the audi= o unit plugin, then you'll see stereo inputs to those channels. =A0

T.




On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando= <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this p= rocess once more and then move on.

I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius.

I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc.

The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any
options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi
tracks. =A0There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up an= y
possibilities either.

Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). =A0= I
think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem<= br> to actually work that way at all.

Thanks,

Kevin


> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can'= t quite seem
>> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. =A0I've gone to= the track
>> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but = I
>> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such t= hings.
>> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live= ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go fo= rward).
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs = of stereo channels.
>> > If
>> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels o= f your
>> > audio
>> > interface. =A0If you are running as a plugin, the ports corre= spond to
>> > "pins"
>> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in = the host.
>> >
>> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. =A0There are fo= ur, input and
>> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for pl= ugins.
>> > They
>> > all default to 1.
>> >
>> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which po= rt numbers
>> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. =A0For = plugins,
>> > you'll
>> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. =A0Many hos= ts do not
>> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. = =A0Ableton
>> > and
>> > Bidule both support this.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hello Mobius users,
>> >>
>> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of indivi= dual
>> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? =A0I'm not= finding a quick
>> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought= I'd
>> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again = (hopefully
>> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask.
>> >>
>> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (sai= d with
>> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people),
>> >>
>> >>Kevin
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body = and to have a
>> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause= of all
>> >> trouble.
>> >>
>> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>> >>
>> >>Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
>> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to h= ave a
>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble.
>>
>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>
>> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://toast= er.bandcamp.com



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos




--
=
call me at 917.576.6166
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
= =95 The Best Classical Music of=A0the Year, 2011 - Amazon.com

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however!=A0=

need me right away? =A0Call or text m= e at 917.576.6166



--bcaec54a325ecdbdb104cc84722e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 21:49:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B58218347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ttF39R2XIqx1HZBWdZ4Q1W4o3SpICb7okn7cg0KSJV4=; b=PDh4Si9iCkvJwFrqWuaIydyjFZE6oBQBpW8xllAqwR49nmM548kiInJ4npTrUvzONE jsES3HzNHlvTnZ7ZLP/EybjNMIPew3fYb7lJnDW43GmwziZcTjwmU4QL2HAxpeD4QaEj +VU3pVRUsgnlq3r0u6Gz55HgnrO9c/tBToMVotpJF3b4U2AaFDEgfMbLXRyofUPQSjsQ Fwad8jDHfKml0FQkAuJclvSjshDTY2/iByE0+urPtM6HfwROAVcUICHVNaAlnRs9UUeZ AE2hvCtXRE0k76y9V4xV+7TYTlYeaPR2BEwUw0+H3CKOSGdDkIpZvK1WFKNCxr0Iu5Hh tM2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: leesloanpianist@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <5080839B.2090008@pobox.com> <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> <5081F158.3010607@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:49:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XRtGZwNaMpSEp43b-O9wpnH5j2w Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any news on the LP1? From: MasterMuso To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f838b350d1f5504cc849846 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:49:26 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f838b350d1f5504cc849846 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm also looking forward to a new software release. Please keep us posted! Lee On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Theweg wrote: > Same here, glad to see progress no matter how slow. Looking forward to > the reviews. > > Weg > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:33 PM, 7stringjazz wrote: > > > Thanks guys, I have not used mine in months so was wondering what the > status was. I did see that Bob made a drive by posting on Looperlative a > few weeks ago and with Rick's news on 1.4 maybe we will see it soon. > > > > On 10/19/2012 1:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay by one week, but I've been > given > >> 1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature laden) > 1.39, to beta test. > >> Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it now, > as we speak. > >> > >> It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady workable > LP-2 Mini Looper out to the market > >> coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week have > led to the delays. > >> > >> He's not shipping LP-2s. It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last night > at touch the looper and I'll be using > >> mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and > enhance fidelity from the first iteration, > >> so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, > thankful to say. > >> > >> Rick Walker > >> > >> On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixed on > that version citing that previously stable features had been broken. (not > the first time the upgrades had that issue). Some people say 1.34 was the > last stable version. That says something. (google: 'looperlative 1.34 > stable' ) > > > > > > -- > > http://Soundclick.com/7stringjazz > > http://Soundcloud.com/7stringjazz > > > > --e89a8f838b350d1f5504cc849846 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm also looking forward to a new software release. Please keep us post= ed!

Lee

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:= 27 PM, Theweg <theweg@gmail.com> wrote:
Same here, glad to see progress no matter ho= w slow. =A0Looking forward to the reviews.

Weg

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:33 PM, 7stringjazz <davew@easystreet.net> wrote:

> Thanks guys, I have not used mine in months so was wondering what the = status was. I did see that Bob made a drive by posting on Looperlative a fe= w weeks ago and with Rick's news on 1.4 maybe we will see it soon.
>
> On 10/19/2012 1:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>> The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay by one week, but I= 9;ve been given
>> 1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature laden= ) 1.39, to beta test.
>> Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it = now, as we speak.
>>
>> It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady wo= rkable LP-2 Mini Looper out to the market
>> coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week= have led to the delays.
>>
>> He's not shipping LP-2s. =A0It was demonstrated by Bill Walker= last night at touch the looper and I'll be using
>> mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems an= d enhance fidelity from the first iteration,
>> so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, t= hankful to say.
>>
>> Rick Walker
>>
>> On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixe= d on that version citing that previously stable features had been broken. = =A0(not the first time the upgrades had that issue). =A0Some people say 1.3= 4 was the last stable version. =A0That says something. (google: =A0'loo= perlative 1.34 stable' )
>
>
> --
> http:/= /Soundclick.com/7stringjazz
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--e89a8f838b350d1f5504cc849846-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 21:51:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04FA518347D; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q6zLrSigdMt+42o2l4r9Xg6zK6RsxXNsyrNaBf+rv5g=; b=NjcurDkEYXLTdn9GjYH0N5yNwD3JGvCxRNWXK2M9dBLMCzeJ9trp2cXvYw4j3WWjU6 fXArZ0sxWOB7QYyjM5ef9X62hqibA7rm2LnqKdRw5JELgieq4POajf8ZLTG1I4QBjXzx Ut99znmmy9STU136szhrsorycMj+pSNBdUEqhswe7gwcYCRBE2Q70oCitWveqg8b1rPf PPWpR8R8Kcg6n0tc3ddlaJdIGy9KfPPxezAuURn+WjOIzs1M8uhYJFhKFrhoje+vWDVm wosod7ZdAdGBo5zz6It5B9hBQVvuHNLdwMmBl6dVrUNNaGrwsYQJJDm1DWqFBod7E+HH nRQQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 23:51:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Nuts On EWI - live looping performance uploaded for sharing From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Friends, I just recorded this little piece of free improvisation playing my EWI (Akai 4000s) extended with the Mobius looper. I own this EWI thanks to Rick Walker because after the Yk6 festival Rick took me with the car to San Jose Guitar Center. While Rick was checking out the drums department I strolled into the wind instruments part and luckily the "wind boss" was working that day and just like me he was super hot on the new Akai. When I told him I came all the way from Sweden "to play music that is awesome but few wants to hear" he offered me to sell me an Akai for the in price, if I could come by three days later, as he didn't have one in stock. Three days later he phoned and said the EWI was up now and I could pick it up on the way to the airport. What great guys, Rick and that Wind Boss at Guitar Center! Anyone here know his name? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/nuts_on_ewi.mp3 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 22:27:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9333C18347B; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7fzwZfn7cX4yYRV5Z/pL2FKi/cUOpcJd9/MPEAmwYbc=; b=wVtk7DHUVxuXg1weRWolj1OQkL6jPtIAwDHPptuuvrtXNjHyO4YHit+xMRRyOrYsPM CB/H89u5ZeD40PhaGTjVLkqWIp3WF79m++mH+w+o0R/AWpS5u1b0Ehe1O0NOGtHm+Mi0 287+j5QtJwkuqM5QcpTNMPh9st//2rHN1XmwtoZ/VbqDMgwWcIiYTvSJLtU/X02+Xcjo OWmqG6BM3AKLc8ywrwKyufB9rvPwNPulTRmyFjwlyOe2iZB6xLvn31pAm4vvUe3TJrF+ /J0XL/wjrdumAazYAhkRhSlPnCuGxw5XvLHd6JRj40zyNoTw5fu9JKxWOcHmw4BIRmPY DMyQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:27:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Just finally got my first microphone! From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de006e808c0704cc851fab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:27:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de006e808c0704cc851fab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its an M-Audio Producer mic. its supposed to come with avid studio but i bought it used for $15. Any tips on using mics in looping? Im realllly new to microphone use --0016e6de006e808c0704cc851fab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Its an M-Audio Producer mic. its supposed to come with avid studio but i= bought it used for $15.=A0 Any tips on using mics in looping? Im realllly = new to microphone use

--0016e6de006e808c0704cc851fab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 22:47:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11FD118347C; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=71e10zG9PDqCuJSvpaGYSyJUi5jYqe2Ej3tC25OasmQ=; b=Abx7mhIyF4jXmGq9ZjJ2qFiYam3ozk62/EW5SocR0MKcNQLQ7q8vhf1et7GIXZJmmY zuNe5wlOHvJQ9gjvsw97SzLIWrinpKQPI3JhzZx4j9IVFXGadI/QQBBXLu3lOtVnQfpS yvm/DjeISs1ZiqEeJEdk/vYk++PNzY7GQl8KEiGYHWKPLH1GkLSdxLrdc1KDhLJV13NZ mbeNypI8hXTZT4aYFPatBVSKNLp2VN8TU9cn/MeftsdHU/lVHCRv7yWcTmtH4ZzdKfAw EX58uacwZvuxvMLTcHvGMe6tPJ1EKIfokCA0dhbpDJQ+veJyEy5QBbKwPf8hJ867zz31 aZLQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:47:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Well, its closer I suppose. I can now see the input choices (Left Out Mobius 2, Left Out Mobius 3, Left Out Mobius 4, etc.) However, I can't seem to route any audio from the instance of Mobius at all. Maybe I've got my Mobius configuration wrong? I went to Mobius and selected track 2 to have plug-in output pin of 2, track 3 to use pin 3 and so on (there are 8 options available per track). Wait, this seems to be working at the moment so I'll have to get back and see if it keeps working (I swear I did exactly the same thing several times with no joy). Thanks to all for the support (especially as to my lack of denseness :-) Kevin On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:38 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > sure, actually Per has on his blog a complete explanation, so I'd do som= e > searching there. > > Basically, if you've assigned your outputs in Mobius, then make 7 additio= nal > tracks in addition to the audio track in which Mobius sits. > > Next, in each of those tracks, assign the INPUT of the track to be the tr= ack > that Mobius is on. Next, in the pull down menu right below, you'll see > Mobius 3-4, Mobius 5-6, and so on. > > Voila. Tell me if that doesn't work or is not clear! > > but you are not dense. It is not obvious, but the Input from needs to be > the track that Mobius is on. Rename it Mobius. It's easier. That track > alone takes "output 1" . The next tracks take "output2, 3, thru 8". If > you're using the audio unit plugin, then you'll see stereo inputs to thos= e > channels. > > T. > > > > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> >> Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move o= n. >> >> I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there >> are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius. >> >> I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug >> in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc. >> >> The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any >> options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi >> tracks. There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up any >> possibilities either. >> >> Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). I >> think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem >> to actually work that way at all. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite see= m >> >> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the trac= k >> >> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I >> >> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. >> >> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go >> >> forward). >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo >> >> > channels. >> >> > If >> >> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your >> >> > audio >> >> > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to >> >> > "pins" >> >> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the >> >> > host. >> >> > >> >> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, inpu= t >> >> > and >> >> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. >> >> > They >> >> > all default to 1. >> >> > >> >> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers >> >> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, >> >> > you'll >> >> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do no= t >> >> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ablet= on >> >> > and >> >> > Bidule both support this. >> >> > >> >> > Jeff >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >>Hello Mobius users, >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual >> >> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quic= k >> >> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd >> >> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefull= y >> >> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. >> >> >> >> >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >> >> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), >> >> >> >> >> >>Kevin >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to ha= ve >> >> >> a >> >> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> >> >> trouble. >> >> >> >> >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> >> >> >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> >> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have= a >> >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> >> trouble. >> >> >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://toaster.bandcamp.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > > > > -- > call me at 917.576.6166 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The Best Classical Music of the Year, 2011 - Amazon.com > > =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever > music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however! > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://mymicrolife.tumblr.com > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > need me right away? Call or text me at 917.576.6166 > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 23:26:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E0318347F; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 23:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=SVpClqX0H1aCHnAnQkvZrKEzFV4SI1INVZcbktrNbJQ=; b=V8OSNKNqvgSKhNZ7IOpOJjmZ8Ce3nxOli+AHAGsXDY41ngDM48rX3Lw7oiheE6RPn8 bk11fno8av3TAOW/KkENnfaEvqG23Dt5qwchKFspK5p/sdzteKO9v8aj6v+SVSYapini 29gbmThrXXXJIxVXHNG+A53XUPjGZ7ksn2rEWHNVkOtVjKZ+7Qhs9rzc5dvlfXGsh0Mu I54x2uDIAuGlFcSNZ1QaKA+X+GnXViNROs8oclvWlyJ0YX3lu5NWfYC59do5L5q67Rjs 7NYaXnJr/guqN+qM9bYa1ImNKNuLdjoz4a5ZU5ywWjofduGsY5ths3ELcw34ya0OU/F3 3jbw== Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question References: From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1E92A52C-DD15-4995-8709-1BC78F42FD65@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:26:02 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 23:26:07 +0000 (UTC) At that point I'd recommend upgrading your m=C3=B6bius to the latest version= . Are you windows or Mac? If Mac, try the audio unit version. Remember you m= ust have your monitor set to IN or at least armed.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Oct 20, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrot= e: > Well, its closer I suppose. >=20 > I can now see the input choices (Left Out Mobius 2, Left Out Mobius 3, > Left Out Mobius 4, etc.) However, I can't seem to route any audio > from the instance of Mobius at all. Maybe I've got my Mobius > configuration wrong? I went to Mobius and selected track 2 to have > plug-in output pin of 2, track 3 to use pin 3 and so on (there are 8 > options available per track). >=20 > Wait, this seems to be working at the moment so I'll have to get back > and see if it keeps working (I swear I did exactly the same thing > several times with no joy). >=20 > Thanks to all for the support (especially as to my lack of denseness :-) >=20 > Kevin >=20 > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:38 PM, todd reynolds wrote:= >> sure, actually Per has on his blog a complete explanation, so I'd do som= e >> searching there. >>=20 >> Basically, if you've assigned your outputs in Mobius, then make 7 additio= nal >> tracks in addition to the audio track in which Mobius sits. >>=20 >> Next, in each of those tracks, assign the INPUT of the track to be the tr= ack >> that Mobius is on. Next, in the pull down menu right below, you'll see >> Mobius 3-4, Mobius 5-6, and so on. >>=20 >> Voila. Tell me if that doesn't work or is not clear! >>=20 >> but you are not dense. It is not obvious, but the Input from needs to be= >> the track that Mobius is on. Rename it Mobius. It's easier. That track= >> alone takes "output 1" . The next tracks take "output2, 3, thru 8". If >> you're using the audio unit plugin, then you'll see stereo inputs to thos= e >> channels. >>=20 >> T. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move o= n. >>>=20 >>> I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there >>> are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius. >>>=20 >>> I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug >>> in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc. >>>=20 >>> The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any >>> options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi >>> tracks. There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up any >>> possibilities either. >>>=20 >>> Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). I >>> think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem >>> to actually work that way at all. >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>>=20 >>> Kevin >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem= >>>>> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track= >>>>> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I >>>>> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. >>>>> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go >>>>> forward). >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo >>>>>> channels. >>>>>> If >>>>>> you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your >>>>>> audio >>>>>> interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to >>>>>> "pins" >>>>>> in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the >>>>>> host. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input >>>>>> and >>>>>> output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. >>>>>> They >>>>>> all default to 1. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers >>>>>> correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, >>>>>> you'll >>>>>> have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not >>>>>> support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton= >>>>>> and >>>>>> Bidule both support this. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Hello Mobius users, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual >>>>>>> loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick= >>>>>>> answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd >>>>>>> prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully= >>>>>>> in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >>>>>>> enough self deprecation for two or three people), >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to hav= e >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >>>>>>> trouble. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> -- >>>>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a= >>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >>>>> trouble. >>>>>=20 >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> http://toaster.bandcamp.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >>>=20 >>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>=20 >>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> call me at 917.576.6166 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> =E2=80=A2 The Best Classical Music of the Year, 2011 - Amazon.com >>=20 >> =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wh= erever >> music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however! >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> http://toddreynolds.com >> http://twitter.com/digifiddler >> http://mymicrolife.tumblr.com >> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic >> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds >> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >>=20 >> need me right away? Call or text me at 917.576.6166 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.= >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 00:17:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33B4B18347D; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 00:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:17:09 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 00:17:15 +0000 (UTC) I have to echo this (pun not intended), but I've never found Mobius to handle more than two-in, two-out audio wise... It would be cool if you could have channels accept individual ASIO or RealRoute channels as a VST. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:31 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move on. I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius. I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc. The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi tracks. There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up any possibilities either. Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). I think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem to actually work that way at all. Thanks, Kevin > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > > wrote: >> >> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem >> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track >> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I >> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. >> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go forward). >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson >> wrote: >> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels. >> > If >> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your >> > audio >> > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to >> > "pins" >> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host. >> > >> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input >> > and >> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. >> > They >> > all default to 1. >> > >> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers >> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, >> > you'll >> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not >> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton >> > and >> > Bidule both support this. >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > >> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" >> > wrote: >> > >> >>Hello Mobius users, >> >> >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual >> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick >> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd >> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully >> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. >> >> >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), >> >> >> >>Kevin >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> >> trouble. >> >> >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 01:28:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A70D118347D; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 338342.66582.bm@omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350782913; bh=1TnRdaf447orgS0C5rzFdyzk/9Lr6udbary2pKebibY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p2r7rE3Oqf/t660Tq70gIKu+GHCMSo/CtOY+SqE/gJ/kquWOAuyoEfvlHviQPxSF0w+2xCrFSSBh+8GcycnlkUCJ0LedpqH8KhTqxG2rAquXgm8R5+lbD4gjYVTo1s/kXfOpk+9fsZLtcr0vpMkOkfRC+JLHsypn6wVtY+ZFFS4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DNZYN0pJIty067nEi6Zo3pHO005I8brpyaMxJn0mrIyU+l6GVTd/6azWQntoHg1IDKRwhFjB3tsDWrKUfnBAav++LSpseaocK5hKxVlAZUgHkFhnQWvpHSt6geWNMMOAWQqlJ6TTnFfxhJD5ie5hLA3sO0XWwQSlfd0+Ux+8tG8=; X-YMail-OSG: iLj7fe4VM1kn6ZP7qzhQe2tEHQ5NNPam2yEHZ7uqtBvaduZ rQ17.ucLRx2dCltfDvQOu4sclwcpzt_sEcxFvkOt.gIj.V.hIxUnnHX3Uv.1 Nmp8HSc53sPMhvCRsn1zDjckb2R_6UpQS1.6ra8_e0tZmPPhUqNLDhuf82_3 jxGPiMZW6GTaYlWC.sRZ49eP4snLIZzSKHH.MrGHshsAOZgC5di9MowIPkoF Z1PQFuvuPImEtBtEUVuE_vizgYfsjLFtBC.sD7VutgOHBfCtXnbi88sH5oEU SlUDPl2VTB4w36A7IAJPh.PwiVJqnCV0JAt0jmVAGIsRGMirrj8oGzInYxUW A2rDGAm53bR1hySuApcY6SaljVPak7wX5BGMc34ik4kE8C0A.xSXjI9DXiLw XaNmchzrGubm0mln9h85.YrD06f0pxE23zwcu9c.V8U6xaof.B2BSJlA.sz5 xNgRjpkYFdkEDqdweghHBWRMcu3SnyiG7vBRQ7Tpw08f8jm5xqQGUrtA5iKp AnVRrS5ulOI65gL4- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,dGhpcyBpcyB0aGUgb25seSBxdWVzdGlvbiBpIGNhbiBwYXJ0aWFsbHkgYW5zd2VyIGFib3V0IGxvb3BpbmchwqAgdGhlIGJlc3QgaW52ZXN0bWVudCBpIGV2ZXIgbWFkZSB3aXRoIG15IG1pYyB3aGlsZSBsb29waW5nIHdhcyBhbiBBX0Igc3dpdGNoIHNvIHRoYXQgaSBjb3VsZCB1c2UgMiBkaWZmIGNoYW5uZWxzIGZvciB0aGUgbWljcm9waG9uZSwgb25seSBvbmUgb2Ygd2hpY2ggZ29lcyB0byB0aGUgbG9vcGVyLsKgIGFsc28sIGkgdGhpbmsgYSBiZWF0Ym94ZWQgcmh5dGhtIGlzIGp1c3QgYXMgdmFsaWQgYXMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: Message-ID: <1350782913.39409.YahooMailNeo@web121004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:28:33 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Reply-To: tim echols Subject: Re: Just finally got my first microphone! To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1562933420-927974218-1350782913=:39409" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:28:34 +0000 (UTC) ---1562933420-927974218-1350782913=:39409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is the only question i can partially answer about looping!=A0 the best= investment i ever made with my mic while looping was an A_B switch so that= i could use 2 diff channels for the microphone, only one of which goes to = the looper.=A0 also, i think a beatboxed rhythm is just as valid as slappin= g the guitar.=A0 there's no way i have found to sound like a high-hat on my= acoustic yet, anyway.=A0 those are really the only two observations i have= while i have been trying to get a pop looper set down.=A0 i have at least = 30 songs i can actually juggle with.=A0 setting up the backing vox to "noth= ing compares 2 U" while layering the other elements at the beginning=A0shou= ld make=A0it not so boring for the audience as i layer acoustic, bass, and = now lap steel (was organ) to form the structure.=A0 then i switch my mic ov= er to where it doesn't loop in order to sing over the structure.=A0 and it = so vocally liberating not to play an instrument while singing. i just go lo= ng and record the whole song on that one--=A0 i don't A-B at all.=A0 it never= changes, so there is no need to separate the verse and chorus.=A0 that is = how i use a mic for looping.=A0 maybe that will help.=A0 the song still goe= s 5 minutes long, that way, though, a bit long for a pop format, but not to= o long to really grate.=A0 spiining away will work better, i imagine, =A0be= cause people don't know it, so they won't be singing the words in their hea= d as i play it to build it up.=A0 this has been my experience....=0A=A0=0At= ime=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: kay'lon rushing <= k3zz21@gmail.com>=0ATo: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =0ASent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 4:27 PM=0ASubj= ect: Just finally got my first microphone!=0A =0A=0AIts an M-Audio Produce= r mic. its supposed to come with avid studio but i bought it used for $15.= =A0 Any tips on using mics in looping? 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this is th= e only question i can partially answer about looping!  the best invest= ment i ever made with my mic while looping was an A_B switch so that i coul= d use 2 diff channels for the microphone, only one of which goes to the loo= per.  also, i think a beatboxed rhythm is just as valid as slapping th= e guitar.  there's no way i have found to sound like a high-hat on my = acoustic yet, anyway.  those are really the only two observations i ha= ve while i have been trying to get a pop looper set down.  i have at l= east 30 songs i can actually juggle with.  setting up the backing vox = to "nothing compares 2 U" while layering the other elements at the beginnin= g should make it not so boring for the audience as i layer acoust= ic, bass, and now lap steel (was organ) to form the structure.  then i switch my mic over to where it doesn't loop in order to sing over t= he structure.  and it so vocally liberating not to play an instrument = while singing. i just go long and record the whole song on that one-- = i don't A-B at all.  it never changes, so there is no need to separat= e the verse and chorus.  that is how i use a mic for looping.  ma= ybe that will help.  the song still goes 5 minutes long, that way, tho= ugh, a bit long for a pop format, but not too long to really grate.  s= piining away will work better, i imagine,  because people don't know i= t, so they won't be singing the words in their head as i play it to build i= t up.  this has been my experience....
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To: "Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent: Saturday, October 20, 20= 12 4:27 PM
Subject: Ju= st finally got my first microphone!

Its an M-Audio Producer mic. its supposed to come with avid = studio but i bought it used for $15.  Any tips on using mics in loopin= g? Im realllly new to microphone use
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---1562933420-927974218-1350782913=:39409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 06:34:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21FF5183478; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=n4dIFqn+b59OZRyTecBvLQkNSDcqJy3XejzFnifVJGc=; b=olGwMw0tJtTzOdboZJ0w9v5Sp7FrC1SkqblBy2/2X8bqLTqeONpeFUAW7n3CZ1kLab W1qg/DCRMfNiBNKsS5yY6lsPxNQ8rdsScoP6V+esOabOSAFSQzmaKUMgo+5x2B88PGvn GwMPqf9ALMpGNzqL6F9A1kQWrW2q9bO4N/Oyc1xbuaCX935biVqMWmw5lo5retIeE2vW IXvtFP9NqiN4Q0dQDJeWOYSDmaKyNBb0XUJeIMomf0pPj4rmaegSPdGbrw2TGXM39kMb BmNmI2g90CXgoJQ5THlOYq2F3eaompA6N8cG8vMOnFL63MqFtccLGlOO37IT/jLAqrdc SUjg== References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2BF4EDA6-EB99-4A76-BDEF-649D753602FF Message-Id: <16009780-8096-4D27-8AE3-52971FB22D12@gmail.com> Cc: "apreleva@gmail.com" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: F_Anile Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:34:00 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:34:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2BF4EDA6-EB99-4A76-BDEF-649D753602FF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Welcome on board, Alisa and congratz for your work. Very nice voice timbre. Have a blast ! -fabio www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 20/ott/2012, alle ore 21:47, Alisa Apreleva h= a scritto: > Hello everyone,=20 >=20 > Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=E2=80=99v= e just recently joined this list, so I=E2=80=99d like to introduce myself. >=20 > My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper.= You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at http://www.youtube.com= /user/Apreleva >=20 > And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, cons= ider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012,= 8 pm. =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Have a happy weekend! > Alisa Apreleva --Apple-Mail-2BF4EDA6-EB99-4A76-BDEF-649D753602FF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Welcome on board, Alisa an= d congratz for your work.
Very nice voice timbre. Have a blast !

-fabio



Il gio= rno 20/ott/2012, alle ore 21:47, Alisa Apreleva <apreleva@gmail.com> ha scritto:

Introduction and invitation Hello everyone,

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=E2=80=99ve j= ust recently joined this list, so I=E2=80=99d like to introduce myself.

My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. Y= ou are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at = http://www.youtube.com/u= ser/Apreleva

And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, consid= er joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012, 8= pm.  



Have a happy weekend!
Alisa Apreleva
= --Apple-Mail-2BF4EDA6-EB99-4A76-BDEF-649D753602FF-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 06:42:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F22DA18347C; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 903 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:42:20 UTC X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.236.85;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:BY2PRD0410HT004.namprd04.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-BigFish: PS-10(zzbb2dI98dI9371Id6eah542M1432I4015Izz1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz17326ah8275bh8275dhz2fh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail232-ch1: domain of sailpoint.com designates 157.56.236.85 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.236.85; envelope-from=jeff.larson@sailpoint.com; helo=BY2PRD0410HT004.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; From: Jeff Larson To: Stephen Goodman , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Mobius Output Question Thread-Topic: Mobius Output Question Thread-Index: AQHNrj1ARGKx98IGD0K18MGOugyvw5fAz3IAgADOeYCAAADvAIABGUoAgAAuM4CAAGWLpg== Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:27:05 +0000 Message-ID: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D79EF@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [70.113.107.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sailpoint.com Resent-Message-ID: <-RV4-C.A.aIB.Ml5gQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Mobius supports 8 stereo ins and 8 stereo outs, and many people have used t= his. Any limitations you have experienced are due to the host configuratio= n, not the plugin. Bidule is very good a this, Ableton works but is obscur= e, traditional DAWs don't often work very well. Due to the wide variety of= host applications it is difficult to give everyone the recipe.=0A= =0A= Jeff =0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Stephen Goodman [spgoodman@earthlight.net]=0A= Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:17 PM=0A= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A= Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question=0A= =0A= I have to echo this (pun not intended), but I've never found Mobius to=0A= handle more than two-in, two-out audio wise... It would be cool if you coul= d=0A= have channels accept individual ASIO or RealRoute channels as a VST.=0A= =0A= -----Original Message-----=0A= From: Kevin Cheli-Colando=0A= Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:31 PM=0A= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A= Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question=0A= =0A= Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move on.= =0A= =0A= I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there=0A= are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius.=0A= =0A= I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug=0A= in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc.=0A= =0A= The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any=0A= options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi=0A= tracks. There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up any=0A= possibilities either.=0A= =0A= Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). I=0A= think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem=0A= to actually work that way at all.=0A= =0A= Thanks,=0A= =0A= Kevin=0A= =0A= =0A= > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando=0A= > =0A= > wrote:=0A= >>=0A= >> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem= =0A= >> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track= =0A= >> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I=0A= >> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things.=0A= >> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live?=0A= >>=0A= >> Thanks,=0A= >>=0A= >> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go forward)= .=0A= >>=0A= >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson = =0A= >> wrote:=0A= >> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels.= =0A= >> > If=0A= >> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your=0A= >> > audio=0A= >> > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to=0A= >> > "pins"=0A= >> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host.= =0A= >> >=0A= >> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input= =0A= >> > and=0A= >> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins.=0A= >> > They=0A= >> > all default to 1.=0A= >> >=0A= >> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers=0A= >> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins,=0A= >> > you'll=0A= >> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not= =0A= >> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton= =0A= >> > and=0A= >> > Bidule both support this.=0A= >> >=0A= >> > Jeff=0A= >> >=0A= >> >=0A= >> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" =0A= >> > wrote:=0A= >> >=0A= >> >>Hello Mobius users,=0A= >> >>=0A= >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual=0A= >> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick= =0A= >> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd=0A= >> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully= =0A= >> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask.=0A= >> >>=0A= >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with=0A= >> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people),=0A= >> >>=0A= >> >>Kevin=0A= >> >>=0A= >> >>--=0A= >> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a=0A= >> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all=0A= >> >> trouble.=0A= >> >>=0A= >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)=0A= >> >>=0A= >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org=0A= >> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos=0A= >> >>=0A= >> >>=0A= >> >=0A= >> >=0A= >>=0A= >>=0A= >>=0A= >> --=0A= >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a= =0A= >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all=0A= >> trouble.=0A= >>=0A= >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)=0A= >>=0A= >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org=0A= >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos=0A= >>=0A= >=0A= >=0A= >=0A= > --=0A= > http://toaster.bandcamp.com=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= --=0A= Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a=0A= form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.= =0A= =0A= - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)=0A= =0A= Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org=0A= Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos=0A= =0A= =0A= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 08:17:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F78B18347D; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=W2BT1o9UKVPGtdEJsc5CXlerZ8FiwVPQ2IyCZkG/LCg=; b=oZSwwpIevH5KFNaUNzUqHlgPnsmKY/R1aDrKIRFztnhEGRyptAy/kJClnESjxbgcyH VpwFe5XbQLLnFZwIs+gWtRTNsJTJYegR65xhOF9grguVnynVO3bdzGBAe4S9suV+Dd4e ccf3zW+ZY6Gogtf590ErNHRmiX3FfWMLqO5Ne/1kpuO7wxiWAn1wiUL1O+aaYqY+Y6Pi ubzZLYSpkxD/hH4KobJ6U5daqwzuq1FUjOodQJzYV5jjPwKX1tBDQrjreaQPX0AlSzEw cRZQCfBOXeWJ3tg8UFw4/klVc9ArXbvsDC0jrcZim1IYbpwh8fHgHXEo8BFNIzjGBXRS bUIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D79EF@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D79EF@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:17:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7ddded5a7b04cc8d5c00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:17:10 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7ddded5a7b04cc8d5c00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kevin what program are you using? You might have said it earlier in the thread but I haven't really been following the posts. On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Mobius supports 8 stereo ins and 8 stereo outs, and many people have used > this. Any limitations you have experienced are due to the host > configuration, not the plugin. Bidule is very good a this, Ableton works > but is obscure, traditional DAWs don't often work very well. Due to the > wide variety of host applications it is difficult to give everyone the > recipe. > > Jeff > > ________________________________________ > From: Stephen Goodman [spgoodman@earthlight.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:17 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question > > I have to echo this (pun not intended), but I've never found Mobius to > handle more than two-in, two-out audio wise... It would be cool if you > could > have channels accept individual ASIO or RealRoute channels as a VST. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:31 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question > > Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move on. > > I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there > are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius. > > I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug > in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc. > > The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any > options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi > tracks. There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up any > possibilities either. > > Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). I > think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem > to actually work that way at all. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > > > > wrote: > >> > >> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem > >> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track > >> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I > >> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. > >> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go > forward). > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson > > >> wrote: > >> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo channels. > >> > If > >> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your > >> > audio > >> > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to > >> > "pins" > >> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the host. > >> > > >> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input > >> > and > >> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. > >> > They > >> > all default to 1. > >> > > >> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers > >> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, > >> > you'll > >> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not > >> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton > >> > and > >> > Bidule both support this. > >> > > >> > Jeff > >> > > >> > > >> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >>Hello Mobius users, > >> >> > >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual > >> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick > >> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd > >> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully > >> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. > >> >> > >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with > >> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), > >> >> > >> >>Kevin > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have > a > >> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > >> >> trouble. > >> >> > >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >> >> > >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > >> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > >> trouble. > >> > >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >> > >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > > -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art www.soundcloud.com/k3z --0016e6db7ddded5a7b04cc8d5c00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin what program are you using? You might have said it earlier in the thr= ead but I haven't really been following the posts.

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.= larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
Mobius supports 8 stereo ins and 8 stereo ou= ts, and many people have used this. =A0Any limitations you have experienced= are due to the host configuration, not the plugin. =A0Bidule is very good = a this, Ableton works but is obscure, traditional DAWs don't often work= very well. =A0Due to the wide variety of host applications it is difficult= to give everyone the recipe.

Jeff

________________________________________
From: Stephen Goodman [spgoodma= n@earthlight.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:17 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question

I have to echo this (pun not intended), but I've never found Mobius to<= br> handle more than two-in, two-out audio wise... It would be cool if you coul= d
have channels accept individual ASIO or RealRoute channels as a VST.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Cheli-Colando
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:31 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question

Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move = on.

I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius.

I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc.

The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any
options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi
tracks. =A0There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up an= y
possibilities either.

Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). =A0= I
think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem<= br> to actually work that way at all.

Thanks,

Kevin


> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
> <billowhead@gmail.com&g= t;
> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can'= t quite seem
>> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. =A0I've gone to= the track
>> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but = I
>> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such t= hings.
>> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live= ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go fo= rward).
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs = of stereo channels.
>> > If
>> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels o= f your
>> > audio
>> > interface. =A0If you are running as a plugin, the ports corre= spond to
>> > "pins"
>> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in = the host.
>> >
>> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. =A0There are fo= ur, input
>> > and
>> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for pl= ugins.
>> > They
>> > all default to 1.
>> >
>> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which po= rt numbers
>> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. =A0For = plugins,
>> > you'll
>> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. =A0Many hos= ts do not
>> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. = =A0Ableton
>> > and
>> > Bidule both support this.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" <billowhead@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hello Mobius users,
>> >>
>> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of indivi= dual
>> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? =A0I'm not= finding a quick
>> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought= I'd
>> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again = (hopefully
>> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask.
>> >>
>> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (sai= d with
>> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people),
>> >>
>> >>Kevin
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body = and to have a
>> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause= of all
>> >> trouble.
>> >>
>> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>> >>
>> >>Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
>> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to h= ave a
>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all<= br> >> trouble.
>>
>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>
>> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://toast= er.bandcamp.com



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos






--
http:/= /www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238

http://www.youtube.com/use= r/gumdrops27

https://twitt= er.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z

--0016e6db7ddded5a7b04cc8d5c00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 08:22:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E132618347A; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OFAc2OPhlKtCthEXCEgFyJ/HY9M10l29F+e7StEPZ5M=; b=efssf9oF8Qd4nlH/7ahfh15gKmc4OF1y+uR3PY0LdiCeToaABZ1FbJkOzh+YL/GXjF z2pFhLVWbmzrEDt8SI0yrBoJKMZSuw3CMZNRzcmQZzmL+6Pi7Xb2BG+C8kSCRn4JM7BL ce02snxh+6G6+N9qPGkn+JV+pQA2LTW50cwJ8PXROVR+M59vRM6Vjn5EJSiixsY8EWMR SzCqNF0AVpEwZqEAJHy0cyLxnkE2k4R8ZsLxNnfNdsUv/7FjHlwRg7KRrcJBmW1chR8C zX4Bq6W9Y3Yf5CFGY3eduMGR5r5YSEVLon8IGDhJ6grmDJxf6cNPSfXQXuE6enTxpQ0W 9jQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:22:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Little (Not really little) looping piece From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec555503caad19f04cc8d6f43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:22:23 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec555503caad19f04cc8d6f43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is is a looping session I had a while ago. It's still my favorite. Improvised. Let me know what you think. The intro is a little bit long but hang in there it gets better lol. http://soundcloud.com/k3z/i-dont-know -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art www.soundcloud.com/k3z --bcaec555503caad19f04cc8d6f43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is is a looping session I had a while ago. It's still my favorite.= Improvised. Let me know what you think. The intro is a little bit long but= hang in there it gets better lol.

http://soundcloud.com/k3z/i-dont-know

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http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238
http= ://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27

https://twitt= er.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z

--bcaec555503caad19f04cc8d6f43-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 11:24:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 882BA18347E; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5083DB61.2070904@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:24:17 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Any news on the LP1? References: <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:24:24 +0000 (UTC) On 10/19/12 1:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > He's not shipping LP-2s. It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last > night at touch the looper and I'll be using > mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and > enhance fidelity from the first iteration, > so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, > thankful to say. This is a misprint............. It should say, "He's NOW shipping LP-2s" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 12:09:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5CD618347C; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=MumfkjOywcJEJ4Ta7kt3o28GBXv4KAhHXkVnF+kRU5Q=; b=RjaY/McQyxZzT8uk1PIgWy4bsw3Y3UdqF63XIwda07PSKqxprWiaxDb1ekbmA2Cn28 tHCAhGj1Jq4rrmnWn7RX/1KUqnu07BvMY9OMF0wzqrjjTccVhibl2JQ5Ii3Nd/WUaJ4Q RsKbicf99rotixNxF9yoixGzPLsLscI0IBaHLZCdr3b8XdOL8Eq1WP6QZ1H+7IiuevkI rAygXJXbft32+7D/LDW6qF6wXstZ9qkuRuhWK5Mg3frVJVmBnisf6VG0ULrfmW+t3bA7 3tOGhe3f+KT9EFpWZVVZw3UWyHVcRexpmqZ2lvN5h4Dz2NFF/6XWI7tzpJcA9T0laBZe gBzQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Any news on the LP1? From: philip In-Reply-To: <5083DB61.2070904@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:09:31 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3281CE06-45C6-49C2-ACFC-2EFB2F0C49C4@gmail.com> References: <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> <5083DB61.2070904@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: <6Np5HB.A.ReD.GY-gQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:09:42 +0000 (UTC) What has changed with v1.40? This is really exciting news. Philip On Oct 21, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 10/19/12 1:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >>=20 >> He's not shipping LP-2s. It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last = night at touch the looper and I'll be using >> mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and = enhance fidelity from the first iteration, >> so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, = thankful to say.=20 > This is a misprint............. >=20 > It should say, "He's NOW shipping LP-2s" >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 12:47:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25CD218347D; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9ddefe01-4833-4714-b29b-3a2744860c2f_" X-Originating-IP: [92.224.174.41] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: Introduction and invitation Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:47:46 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2012 12:47:45.0474 (UTC) FILETIME=[44978220:01CDAF8A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC) --_9ddefe01-4833-4714-b29b-3a2744860c2f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Super.Brava =3B) Date: Sat=2C 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400 Subject: Introduction and invitation=20 From: apreleva@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Introduction and invitation=20 Hello everyone=2C=20 Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=92ve just = recently joined this list=2C so I=92d like to introduce myself. My name is Alisa Apreleva=2C I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper= . You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at http://www.youtube.c= om/user/Apreleva And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts=2C USA)=2C please=2C= consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge=2C MA) on October 27t= h=2C 2012=2C 8 pm. =20 Have a happy weekend! Alisa Apreleva = --_9ddefe01-4833-4714-b29b-3a2744860c2f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Super.
Brava =3B)

Date: Sat=2C 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400
Subject: In= troduction and invitation
From: apreleva@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com

Introduction and invitation Hello everyone=2C

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=92ve just = recently joined this list=2C so I=92d like to introduce myself.

My name is Alisa Apreleva=2C I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper= . You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at h= ttp://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva

And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts=2C USA)=2C please=2C= consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge=2C MA) on October 27t= h=2C 2012=2C 8 pm.  =3B



Have a happy weekend!
Alisa Apreleva
= --_9ddefe01-4833-4714-b29b-3a2744860c2f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 15:54:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 554DF18347E; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FEb8PKQMtN8opRXTeEicAZQjE3aIgTgOjHrkjuuGrmo=; b=Pl8nOPGQfxdUyExKlzGWHvZZv7C7GhaykNivmVATSxPuvD3ExboK7UJJQJN8fpw4HZ 1xTtbxfmXUa1NEV90se3CI3zi7hojDGw44Oln8gyYw5mZzt2cRH0ugTaODYwnKwraLEV 3hoG3H9PHqTLHnakvr2TEJp/Ud/sZfncrwbEKzJEhfLVuVqActG/AePDcv1bV9iJ4q1N iyhrNLt4hPKoGgOzfS39xp6nU4Chx0xKmpIVejBj1et9vvXVuvc53hUCtrgKLz1nk2eg aEtib6QSpMvScwZk1alK522MZW5XULf0WGtNJER02fd7vQ9jUPMbxkd82wxbF7QIJjGu 9N0w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:54:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: mobius crash From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:54:54 +0000 (UTC) I had mobius crash on me during my SC gig at y2k and I'd like to figure out why. Could anyone try the following: - make a very short loop (think sustain record) - rate shift it up and down a bunch of times, playing the loop as a synth sound I'm pretty sure this is what made it crash, but it would be nice if someone could replicate that crash. btw, I had practiced computer crashing, so it wasn't that big a deal during my set... I just kept playing trombone acoustically while I reopened the software and waited for everything to come back up. Not exactly smooth, but having practiced it, I wasn't really nervous about it. Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 16:06:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9A4718347E; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VQ/lWtziZNhbVHLLZ6P3BR99hLUl1Od8v58hsiNcFkc=; b=Gno+FCiaXCcch8vdPE9vfFhyXZLAFZa2hrMfxjKxmf1pEzlc83X9VOX42zx9BIMUKy 9RP5FfRV783irXDj1HbuGq0LOYMKWvy+/fkvsp1B/6cHl4wyGmGPxHtcpwaw8X9uswZX hTLT2TrumD4KasWDl7391cq1q6Bq0hxoikW2z2Mmb566w8QKsdNpofTB+PO5JDCUfO+E WLFvJhZkRnEHxMEyx3K9e0Mc3ThjxevwjL8xtYarakkL0YJQnwNsptiz8m2PfhQe0rJG Q21rhFW5Tg/N/Z6e75AnYEMDe0eXE1DsZAzK7asf/fp5FRRmZGNuvuFKGH1QGO59lkPx glXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:06:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius crash From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:06:45 +0000 (UTC) If people should be able to look into the case and give meaningful feedback you need to tell us how you are running Mobius. Most important factors: - Standalone or plugin? - Sync? Master or slave. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I had mobius crash on me during my SC gig at y2k and I'd like to > figure out why. Could anyone try the following: > > - make a very short loop (think sustain record) > - rate shift it up and down a bunch of times, playing the loop as a synth sound > > I'm pretty sure this is what made it crash, but it would be nice if > someone could replicate that crash. > > btw, I had practiced computer crashing, so it wasn't that big a deal > during my set... I just kept playing trombone acoustically while I > reopened the software and waited for everything to come back up. Not > exactly smooth, but having practiced it, I wasn't really nervous about > it. > > Sylvain > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 16:28:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B28D318347B; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :thread-index:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=GLc/BWeMtbTk8hPJKpsIrVTOlOA48e+kwWt5yaO+yvo=; b=lOQElHGOAdhEeUOe4BLk65lLOucjvFqegeszbH6MZilcfapJxgrIgD1cmP1OzQkm8s PVKeswVUKRdmfbNGKIK3WChF9pwtq0JdQv5xinFybUJOVaHNrb2sT/ECAdD5CsX8ajos S1MCfoF+B/xvUaCEpJ6uD16EhHMxkO0fnK+5eYy0PUUuc/okpnUd+BOuehQJ8mlRhNJV gWdy6n8XEz4n4cP0WRN8i3EeL5hUbk3XlsTqAo56q4DgJncq2ytJ2dXDpmI54ZZbZUhC Tr5u+TIJVEB77JssGRiVufsZTqm1/MDHwbooq6GXk2Vxq80jG/R6qdpjF9kz2CfKIdU8 PHHA== User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.32.0.111121 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:28:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation From: Alisa Apreleva To: LD Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Introduction and invitation Thread-Index: Ac2vqRrx1HsPJ6CgfEOqIF0nn8V4Nw== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3433667311_4756516" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:28:34 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3433667311_4756516 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thank you, Sergio! ) On 10/21/12 8:47 AM, "Sergio Girardi" wrote: > Super. > Brava ;) >=20 >=20 > Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400 > Subject: Introduction and invitation > From: apreleva@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Introduction and invitation Hello everyone, >=20 > Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=B9ve just > recently joined this list, so I=B9d like to introduce myself. >=20 > My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper= . You > are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at > http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva >=20 > And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, con= sider > joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012, 8= pm. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Have a happy weekend! > Alisa Apreleva > =20 >=20 --B_3433667311_4756516 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Introduction and invitation Thank you, Sergio! )


On 10/21/12 8:47 AM, "Sergio Girardi" <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:

Super.
Brava ;)

Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -040= 0
Subject: Introduction and invitation
From: apreleva@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com

Introduction and invitation Hello everyone,

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I’ve j= ust recently joined this list, so I’d like to introduce myself.

My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. = You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at <= U>http://www.youtube.com/user= /Apreleva

And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, consi= der joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012, = 8 pm.  



Have a happy weekend!
Alisa Apreleva
       

--B_3433667311_4756516-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 16:47:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B2B918347D; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 902 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:47:49 UTC X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.236.85;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:BY2PRD0410HT002.namprd04.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-BigFish: PS0(z2b68kz98dI9371I1432Izz1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz17326ah8275bhc704dhz2fh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail8-db3: domain of sailpoint.com designates 157.56.236.85 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.236.85; envelope-from=jeff.larson@sailpoint.com; helo=BY2PRD0410HT002.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: mobius crash Thread-Topic: mobius crash Thread-Index: AQHNr6Rs6SWrfG1JhEaYUsnOdPkS2pfD7NgAgAAGiF8= Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:32:28 +0000 Message-ID: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D8C64@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [70.113.107.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sailpoint.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Also feedback on or off?=0A= Overdub on or off?=0A= Any modifications to the loop other than rate shifting?=0A= Did you notice the accumulation of lots of "layer bars" at the top.=0A= =0A= Since you use the term "rate shift" are you on 1.45? =0A= In 2.x we've started calling this "Speed Step".=0A= =0A= Jeff=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Per Boysen [perboysen@gmail.com]=0A= Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:06 AM=0A= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A= Subject: Re: mobius crash=0A= =0A= If people should be able to look into the case and give meaningful=0A= feedback you need to tell us how you are running Mobius. Most=0A= important factors:=0A= =0A= - Standalone or plugin?=0A= - Sync? Master or slave.=0A= =0A= Greetings from Sweden=0A= =0A= Per Boysen=0A= www.perboysen.com=0A= http://www.youtube.com/perboysen=0A= =0A= =0A= On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Sylvain Poitras=0A= wrote:=0A= > I had mobius crash on me during my SC gig at y2k and I'd like to=0A= > figure out why. Could anyone try the following:=0A= >=0A= > - make a very short loop (think sustain record)=0A= > - rate shift it up and down a bunch of times, playing the loop as a synth= sound=0A= >=0A= > I'm pretty sure this is what made it crash, but it would be nice if=0A= > someone could replicate that crash.=0A= >=0A= > btw, I had practiced computer crashing, so it wasn't that big a deal=0A= > during my set... I just kept playing trombone acoustically while I=0A= > reopened the software and waited for everything to come back up. Not=0A= > exactly smooth, but having practiced it, I wasn't really nervous about=0A= > it.=0A= >=0A= > Sylvain=0A= >=0A= =0A= =0A= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 19:23:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E94EC18347C; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pvKG9pP0E3DJ6IPAsrtXnHvUq89SKTPhiT/3uqo6BB4=; b=awhQTPTOwC5EDBIQhyyHYFYI30E5eqMUcDBYFAguLwGmcxSj7ibFgtgtPfAzpzvOQa dWeNUcEMvalzeXFRykFcZ3SGR2NPC+UF4KjPMwmuMmkaJ14Kk/Jl5dnWUiv009PtyeY4 7JWo2qW6w70RGnRzAlKSY/nBx8EFUcV1OuINFBosDGt5B3uZsgqHSJwqv2nB0gR+KxzS 7LTIZg4LePtZ5yg5lDmn+SladN+AGHoMwpzg29awxxSe/+zq6spnNwga134UHMjnPIn4 1unme3mZ34DIllweeBDERx8uzxg+6or4G+GZQBGNUwFlxxHNcLAI8yhzWbTKnLJFg1br HJHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:23:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7ddd3c63e204cc96ac21 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:23:34 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7ddd3c63e204cc96ac21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Welcome to the family! The people here so kind. On Oct 21, 2012 9:28 AM, "Alisa Apreleva" wrote: > Thank you, Sergio! ) > > > On 10/21/12 8:47 AM, "Sergio Girardi" wrote: > > Super. > Brava ;) > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400 > Subject: Introduction and invitation > From: apreleva@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Introduction and invitation Hello everyone, > > Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=92ve jus= t > recently joined this list, so I=92d like to introduce myself. > > My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper= . > You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at * > http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva > * > And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, > consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th= , > 2012, 8 pm. > > > > Have a happy weekend! > Alisa Apreleva > > > --0016e6db7ddd3c63e204cc96ac21 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Welcome to the family! The people here so kind.

On Oct 21, 2012 9:28 AM, "Alisa Apreleva&qu= ot; <apreleva@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Thank you, Sergio! )


On 10/21/12 8:47 AM, "Sergio Girardi" <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Super.
Brava ;)

Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:47= :04 -0400
Subject: Introduction and invitation
From: apreleva@gmai= l.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Introduction and invitation Hello everyone,

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=92ve just = recently joined this list, so I=92d like to introduce myself.

My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. = You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at htt= p://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva

And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, consi= der joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012,= 8 pm. =A0



Have a happy weekend!
Alisa Apreleva
 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0

--0016e6db7ddd3c63e204cc96ac21-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 19:41:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBD8618347F; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pIu8cSxRGYIx6mih1vXpugQSrwH6fa2BfpzD1Evi9SI=; b=hkkQneJ+PBRsE6zPu6idcYKNkokjTgk8DsiF/IfKCcnIKvw1qPtKJuxIs8d6yc+jgv x2IK4O9hfzMP9D8BktT6KDSK+NvTGMIfXKJ0bCQ0Ry7RGMiAYFmAFvCV32iyx5nvcA05 r7KSU0rdpmhYCfM5cQEjaG7IjJCdOWSS+6ihF24uaOex7Gwg9yllD42POp3X+2gV4Jsp 5pA2+V31q/S9VMeerGuH78mDukGlxHF7w3/qm/K6Bv0/G/Ywf/TweeDqI4fsoPHP7aJ/ JaYYkB6LlD8NsORHVtf9OJL75/KrNAZJkYvuUDxOmnBB4YZQ1bUUaKlWCildosQ63eTK ehsw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D8C64@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D8C64@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius crash From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC) sorry guys, lack of sleep around here... this is on version 1.45 (plugin). I still use it because I need two loopers, so I have both versions running at the same time. The issue was on 1.45 sync mode: off feedback: 127 secondary feedback: 127 overdub: off other mods: none layer bars: I'll have to make another test when I get home, I wasn't looking at the screen when it crashed. Another thing I realized is that I exited record mode by rateshifting instead of hitting record once more, so that could be a part of it. btw Jeff, very nice to see the OSC docs for the latest version. I helped Luca setup mobius to work with his iPad and it all worked without a hitch. Good work! Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 20:50:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E96CE18347C; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_161f5077-7125-4e0d-b0f9-9e4ab5f8f60a_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Introduction and invitation Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:50:15 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2012 20:50:15.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC393840:01CDAFCD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:50:16 +0000 (UTC) --_161f5077-7125-4e0d-b0f9-9e4ab5f8f60a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Alisa=2C I'm diggin' your expressions PEACE & LOVE! :D Date: Sat=2C 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400 Subject: Introduction and invitation=20 From: apreleva@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Introduction and invitation=20 Hello everyone=2C=20 Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=92ve just = recently joined this list=2C so I=92d like to introduce myself. My name is Alisa Apreleva=2C I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper= . You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at http://www.youtube.c= om/user/Apreleva And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts=2C USA)=2C please=2C= consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge=2C MA) on October 27t= h=2C 2012=2C 8 pm. =20 Have a happy weekend! Alisa Apreleva = --_161f5077-7125-4e0d-b0f9-9e4ab5f8f60a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Alisa=2C

I'm diggin' your expressions

PEACE &=3B LOVE!= :D

Date: Sat=2C 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400
Subject: Introduction and inv= itation
From: apreleva@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com

Introduction and invitation Hello everyone=2C

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=92ve just = recently joined this list=2C so I=92d like to introduce myself.

My name is Alisa Apreleva=2C I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper= . You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at h= ttp://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva

And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts=2C USA)=2C please=2C= consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge=2C MA) on October 27t= h=2C 2012=2C 8 pm.  =3B



Have a happy weekend!
Alisa Apreleva
= --_161f5077-7125-4e0d-b0f9-9e4ab5f8f60a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 20:51:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8A72183479; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Gaaq1kv8hU6FEBU2Qb/ews84mEwCUYdSgSs0hg8Q1TE=; b=RRM5I8u+eLSyS2dA6MgCAa+TP0Wc20JuvGCi6Uk3OsF9N3aV3DxV/Q3CXAQUCwE68w jHmz2mol99uzptAUzRQ9x9Lc9yvchgubxKqnLrTQ1pX00es/jRff81eDD7QshWAZoXWD fL0rLyBJwJWynNJD2gg8FB3C39QSFeAtwD4Antl729kbua2s4zx/5/ZMul2AjN3AY6F3 wQlCkwi3PjrdJFsqqUWRAXLH6YsAIu72r0D7srh7NcUD9USj8c8mGBtI1CNbpdY4K7rw xwMBsuY7ctjw7SdrAgFEffA8zjueqpd50Z/KTHGrhIVIbrOX+reUI6a+1rT++jqKsNNM aIsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D79EF@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:51:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kaylon, I'm using Mobius and, thanks to everyone's help, I "think" I have it all working as planned. Jeff is certainly right that Ableton is obscure, but it is now doing what I wanted (I think). I'm looking forward to building this into 'exactly' the looping configuration I want. Maybe I'll even make some music with it one of these days :-) Kevin On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 1:17 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > Kevin what program are you using? You might have said it earlier in the > thread but I haven't really been following the posts. > > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Jeff Larson > wrote: >> >> Mobius supports 8 stereo ins and 8 stereo outs, and many people have used >> this. Any limitations you have experienced are due to the host >> configuration, not the plugin. Bidule is very good a this, Ableton works >> but is obscure, traditional DAWs don't often work very well. Due to the >> wide variety of host applications it is difficult to give everyone the >> recipe. >> >> Jeff >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Stephen Goodman [spgoodman@earthlight.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:17 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question >> >> I have to echo this (pun not intended), but I've never found Mobius to >> handle more than two-in, two-out audio wise... It would be cool if you >> could >> have channels accept individual ASIO or RealRoute channels as a VST. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kevin Cheli-Colando >> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:31 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Mobius Output Question >> >> Well, I'll expose my ignorance of this process once more and then move on. >> >> I'm not seeing anything at all in Live that leads me to believe there >> are options for separate audio inputs from Mobius. >> >> I've gone into Mobius and changed the track settings so that the plug >> in input and output ports are 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc. >> >> The I go to Live and try to choose audio from and I don't see any >> options to choose anything but the returns and the audio and midi >> tracks. There is also resampling but that doesn't seem to open up any >> possibilities either. >> >> Not sure why I'm so dense here (at least I'm feeling that way). I >> think I understand what is supposed to be going on but it doesn't seem >> to actually work that way at all. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Okay, I hope this isn't completely dense of me, but I can't quite seem >> >> to figure out how to get this to work in Live. I've gone to the track >> >> settings in Mobius and assigned the output ports to 2, 3, etc but I >> >> can't seem to find anyplace in Live that is looking for such things. >> >> Any chance you could walk me through how one would do this in Live? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Kevin (missing hardware but convinced software is the way to go >> >> forward). >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Larson >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Mobius tracks are assigned "ports" which are pairs of stereo >> >> > channels. >> >> > If >> >> > you are running standalone ports correspond to the channels of your >> >> > audio >> >> > interface. If you are running as a plugin, the ports correspond to >> >> > "pins" >> >> > in the plugin that have to be connected to audio channels in the >> >> > host. >> >> > >> >> > Ports are assigned in the Track Setup window. There are four, input >> >> > and >> >> > output ports for standalone and input and output ports for plugins. >> >> > They >> >> > all default to 1. >> >> > >> >> > For standalone, you'll have to experiment to see which port numbers >> >> > correspond to the physical connections on the device. For plugins, >> >> > you'll >> >> > have to figure out how the host uses plugin pins. Many hosts do not >> >> > support plugins that have more than one pair of stereo pins. Ableton >> >> > and >> >> > Bidule both support this. >> >> > >> >> > Jeff >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 10/19/12 4:03 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >>Hello Mobius users, >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you know if there is a way to send the output of individual >> >> >>loops/tracks to separate outputs in Mobius? I'm not finding a quick >> >> >>answer to this question in the documentation and I thought I'd >> >> >>prostrate myself before the knowledge of this group again (hopefully >> >> >>in not too embarrassing a manner) and ask. >> >> >> >> >> >>Apologies if I am a simpleton and missing the obvious (said with >> >> >>enough self deprecation for two or three people), >> >> >> >> >> >>Kevin >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >> >>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have >> >> >> a >> >> >>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> >> >> trouble. >> >> >> >> >> >>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> >> >> >> >>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> >> >>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> >> trouble. >> >> >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://toaster.bandcamp.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> >> > > > > -- > http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 > > http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 > > https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art > > www.soundcloud.com/k3z > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 20:55:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45FEA183478; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5de7804b-6079-4445-8194-eb52c440a5e4_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Nuts On EWI - live looping performance uploaded for sharing Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:55:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2012 20:55:33.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[69BB51A0:01CDAFCE] Resent-Message-ID: <4jpGk.A.Tf.GFGhQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:55:35 +0000 (UTC) --_5de7804b-6079-4445-8194-eb52c440a5e4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW=2C dope! > Date: Sat=2C 20 Oct 2012 23:51:16 +0200 > Subject: Nuts On EWI - live looping performance uploaded for sharing > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi Friends=2C >=20 > I just recorded this little piece of free improvisation playing my EWI > (Akai 4000s) extended with the Mobius looper. I own this EWI thanks to > Rick Walker because after the Yk6 festival Rick took me with the car > to San Jose Guitar Center. While Rick was checking out the drums > department I strolled into the wind instruments part and luckily the > "wind boss" was working that day and just like me he was super hot on > the new Akai. When I told him I came all the way from Sweden "to play > music that is awesome but few wants to hear" he offered me to sell me > an Akai for the in price=2C if I could come by three days later=2C as he > didn't have one in stock. Three days later he phoned and said the EWI > was up now and I could pick it up on the way to the airport. What > great guys=2C Rick and that Wind Boss at Guitar Center! Anyone here know > his name? >=20 > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/nuts_on_ewi.mp3 >=20 >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 = --_5de7804b-6079-4445-8194-eb52c440a5e4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WOW=2C dope!

>=3B Date:= Sat=2C 20 Oct 2012 23:51:16 +0200
>=3B Subject: Nuts On EWI - live lo= oping performance uploaded for sharing
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com<= br>>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Hi F= riends=2C
>=3B
>=3B I just recorded this little piece of free im= provisation playing my EWI
>=3B (Akai 4000s) extended with the Mobius = looper. I own this EWI thanks to
>=3B Rick Walker because after the Yk= 6 festival Rick took me with the car
>=3B to San Jose Guitar Center. W= hile Rick was checking out the drums
>=3B department I strolled into t= he wind instruments part and luckily the
>=3B "wind boss" was working = that day and just like me he was super hot on
>=3B the new Akai. When = I told him I came all the way from Sweden "to play
>=3B music that is = awesome but few wants to hear" he offered me to sell me
>=3B an Akai f= or the in price=2C if I could come by three days later=2C as he
>=3B d= idn't have one in stock. Three days later he phoned and said the EWI
>= =3B was up now and I could pick it up on the way to the airport. What
&g= t=3B great guys=2C Rick and that Wind Boss at Guitar Center! Anyone here kn= ow
>=3B his name?
>=3B
>=3B https://dl.dropbox.com/u/496326= 4/nuts_on_ewi.mp3
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Greetings from Sweden
= >=3B
>=3B Per Boysen
>=3B www.perboysen.com
>=3B http://w= ww.youtube.com/perboysen
>=3B
= --_5de7804b-6079-4445-8194-eb52c440a5e4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 21:00:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1451F18347B; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=7Rt3AxzpmCiiTIa7ahnojKw/r16Z7GElnbInFBslWVM=; b=AJm3j5Nw9TKrzm5aZafHjSYtrAwZShZDZj4SWS/jJSz8zJsJLjL4A/CiyyGU3oy9G7 ovW3QV1+GXqQQkPdn3fxSiFY8gCWEtGQY8cJWbAs7x5hIk1xbIEJh3Dm6+fPbZi01geL 4fmPkT89NZdKoZdZ3FeUI8BTAXOIWa+GBTvj80jGU7lVxG1HtT9BThuO37qA5cM6PUPK VdXFvGAFI1KIoqTZ9BdWLSPT5FsV3//XihNf3AIEZZSvaPhj0A4+ZhTbuk8PXPksSsBp zTlx2kHR/YZujmG8UOkUe+ncraTZHuLTc69z4XPugw1Nb9ZQa3qEzcOw7Y4nZlhu9y1o k9qw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:59:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Nuts On EWI - live looping performance uploaded for sharing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f5039aa3db83404cc9807cb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:00:36 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f5039aa3db83404cc9807cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lovin' this Per=85 Gotta send it on to a friend of mine who joins you in EW= I love=85 Best to you, T. On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Friends, > > I just recorded this little piece of free improvisation playing my EWI > (Akai 4000s) extended with the Mobius looper. I own this EWI thanks to > Rick Walker because after the Yk6 festival Rick took me with the car > to San Jose Guitar Center. While Rick was checking out the drums > department I strolled into the wind instruments part and luckily the > "wind boss" was working that day and just like me he was super hot on > the new Akai. When I told him I came all the way from Sweden "to play > music that is awesome but few wants to hear" he offered me to sell me > an Akai for the in price, if I could come by three days later, as he > didn't have one in stock. Three days later he phoned and said the EWI > was up now and I could pick it up on the way to the airport. What > great guys, Rick and that Wind Boss at Guitar Center! Anyone here know > his name? > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/nuts_on_ewi.mp3 > > > > --e89a8f5039aa3db83404cc9807cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lovin' this Per=85 Gotta send it on to a friend of mine who joins you i= n EWI love=85=A0

Best to you, T.

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Per Boysen &l= t;perboysen@gmail.= com> wrote:
Hi Friends,

I just recorded this little piece of free improvisation playing my EWI
(Akai 4000s) extended with the Mobius looper. I own this EWI thanks to
Rick Walker because after the Yk6 festival Rick took me with the car
to San Jose Guitar Center. While Rick was checking out the drums
department I strolled into the wind instruments part and luckily the
"wind boss" was working that day and just like me he was super ho= t on
the new Akai. When I told him I came all the way from Sweden "to play<= br> music that is awesome but few wants to hear" he offered me to sell me<= br> an Akai for the in price, if I could come by three days later, as he
didn't have one in stock. Three days later he phoned and said the EWI was up now and I could pick it up on the way to the airport. What
great guys, Rick and that Wind Boss at Guitar Center! Anyone here know
his name?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/nuts_on_ewi.mp3






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--e89a8f5039aa3db83404cc9807cb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 23:20:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8FE018347F; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2254 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:20:03 UTC Reply-To: From: "roger" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Introduction and invitation Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:42:26 +0100 Organization: medcross Message-ID: <001001cdafdd$58ad7b90$0a0872b0$@co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CDAFE5.BA71E390" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2vwcFJc0IeiicdSCuu4cuq0NGViAAG3eoA Content-Language: en-gb X-Auth-Info: roger@cogreslab.co.uk (login) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:20:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CDAFE5.BA71E390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alisa, I loved your work. I have put a link on my Facebook page. Roger Coghill, Tradanon. From: kay'lon rushing [mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com] Sent: 21 October 2012 20:24 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation Welcome to the family! The people here so kind. On Oct 21, 2012 9:28 AM, "Alisa Apreleva" wrote: Thank you, Sergio! ) On 10/21/12 8:47 AM, "Sergio Girardi" wrote: Super. Brava ;) _____ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400 Subject: Introduction and invitation From: apreleva@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Introduction and invitation Hello everyone, Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I've just recently joined this list, so I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012, 8 pm. Have a happy weekend! Alisa Apreleva ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CDAFE5.BA71E390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Alisa, I loved your work. I have put a link on my Facebook = page.

 

Roger Coghill, Tradanon.

 

From:= kay'lon = rushing [mailto:k3zz21@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 October 2012 = 20:24
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Introduction = and invitation

 

Welcome to the family! The = people here so kind.

On Oct 21, = 2012 9:28 AM, "Alisa Apreleva" <apreleva@gmail.com> = wrote:

Thank you, = Sergio! )


On 10/21/12 8:47 AM, "Sergio Girardi" = <simpliflying@gmail.com> = wrote:

Super.
Br= ava ;)

Date: Sat, = 20 Oct 2012 15:47:04 -0400
Subject: Introduction and invitation =
From: apreleva@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Introduc= tion and invitation Hello = everyone,

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping = and more. I’ve just recently joined this list, so I’d like = to introduce myself.

My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian = singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. You are welcome to watch some snippets = of my work at http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva
=
And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), = please, consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on = October 27th, 2012, 8 pm.  



Have a happy = weekend!
Alisa Apreleva
  =     

------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CDAFE5.BA71E390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 23:44:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B38818347F; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4229d069-b3c8-4bc1-ad09-51deeddd2b96_" X-Originating-IP: [174.255.161.7] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: mobius crash Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:44:39 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2012 23:44:40.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[097C6AA0:01CDAFE6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:44:40 +0000 (UTC) --_4229d069-b3c8-4bc1-ad09-51deeddd2b96_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought you set was great=2C Sylvain. I must have missed the crash...unli= ke my own meltdown! JD Devros > Date: Sun=2C 21 Oct 2012 11:54:52 -0400 > Subject: mobius crash > From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I had mobius crash on me during my SC gig at y2k and I'd like to > figure out why. Could anyone try the following: >=20 > - make a very short loop (think sustain record) > - rate shift it up and down a bunch of times=2C playing the loop as a syn= th sound >=20 > I'm pretty sure this is what made it crash=2C but it would be nice if > someone could replicate that crash. >=20 > btw=2C I had practiced computer crashing=2C so it wasn't that big a deal > during my set... I just kept playing trombone acoustically while I > reopened the software and waited for everything to come back up. Not > exactly smooth=2C but having practiced it=2C I wasn't really nervous abou= t > it. >=20 > Sylvain >=20 = --_4229d069-b3c8-4bc1-ad09-51deeddd2b96_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought you set was great=2C S= ylvain. I must have missed the crash...unlike my own meltdown!
JD Devros=

> Date:=3B Sun=2C 21 Oct 2012 11:=3B54:=3B52 -0400
> Su= bject:=3B mobius crash
> From:=3B sylvain.trombone@=3Bgmail.com=
> To:=3B Loopers-Delight@=3Bloopers-delight.com
>
> I had = mobius crash on me during my SC gig at y2k and I'=3Bd like to
> figur= e out why. Could anyone try the following:=3B
>
> - make a very = short loop (=3Bthink sustain record)=3B
> - rate shift it up and d= own a bunch of times=2C playing the loop as a synth sound
>
> I'= =3Bm pretty sure this is what made it crash=2C but it would be nice if
>= someone could replicate that crash.
>
> btw=2C I had practiced comp= uter crashing=2C so it wasn'=3Bt that big a deal
> during my set... = I just kept playing trombone acoustically while I
> reopened the softwar= e and waited for everything to come back up. Not
> exactly smooth=2C bu= t having practiced it=2C I wasn'=3Bt really nervous about
> it.
> =
> Sylvain
>
= --_4229d069-b3c8-4bc1-ad09-51deeddd2b96_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 02:36:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5C6D18347D; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hhWET9U56UxrAKuvuXyZgXdOB3EwlDISc3FQEqHPhjk=; b=ameQdQEb7mCZq90JzOnrWtMnJjMgdCt3aj4v7xlkhkmJ75EbSpfQnYyh6c4xnOGH8O 5EaYRE1J9nhGK2G2CVUmSyKj6LhIg7zmRXRoTgPMa7yu5mk3f6y67oGwbvd27a6rBuPj QshyvLRWyMZqzj8dHjRamJfeAwXUzV5MM3AVIIzpdHN+P+XDZFaRfajq6ubMipJ0++29 xFJ1f9OhsSWLasZqRQOJX6mKAvVgkOn9e0wnbnFjZTIUR/P52fVSzfHvjsTPkyiMVJZ1 sWZkZeTnOiiHkd2wvHxPbsYpYGmN4dKEiDtmpKCVMB/2m+AFnmgbNgYfp17Kh0KO5iXT OJZA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:36:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d626574c966304cc9cb9f3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:36:43 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d626574c966304cc9cb9f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. --0016e6d626574c966304cc9cb9f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long.

--0016e6d626574c966304cc9cb9f3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 02:46:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C88D183482; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C+gP2SA/+gg0IBoB24xzxdHO1PtOLAQo527P1oz0tW8=; b=AIhXhVm5tSY9SN+nWVGNKIjUKVohmXw3fMJDAPCMD3wCX/sUv7yhFoRbcroxtrsI92 L7U4c87vbsHKzzc0A1yInL/9/o5ead8wKookpH5VTUsfKRxmCh2HUBJK5JikTurFAsVU gme3jkq2KT3S5lGQ+q/8DgcnD3poN07YKX/ZSIIhTCZsDfdkpyZMJvwnv1S73id7cxa5 LVQh//PYolgCkSUxMsz+2DH7hqXvquuZSa5T9BByu+OxUc1OLqdZxE4/cZ2Sz0r+ZBiY Zz3WkWo30Crh3j/jFN1lPdyD/V3hTnl03RGoFIeP23ZbFsQS5Fv0Kruqp6fqZ+BNBvv4 Z/Zg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:46:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee77c3f08d404cc9cddf3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:46:47 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54ee77c3f08d404cc9cddf3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Your set was really neat! There was a lot of musical diversity on display during the parts of the festival I saw; I really enjoyed playing there as well. T On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill > Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all > weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --bcaec54ee77c3f08d404cc9cddf3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your set was really neat!=A0

There was a lot of musical = diversity on display during the parts of the festival I saw; I really enjoy= ed playing there as well.=A0

T

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing <= k3zz21@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill = Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weeke= nd I could stay in there and listen for so long.




--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--bcaec54ee77c3f08d404cc9cddf3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 02:48:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC7BC183481; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RJXiOUF1KvWYDo0sgVYIf7eTiUBUv1FwAXT3vbvKP88=; b=eyLUqCzFnvOW+O8fwnEjjulc1IqDUa6YXQCJlYuYY0uLGhnbQ/3WAigASLcHLe7gdY juDghUuDvXZvQiSAAqEUhjABspmv8ex1QKmegDKkDUJwAvPvzwGLJq9und7yQW8GF+nL r0Er2uKCtyN0yVI8NEcRyFF7G4QPLkV1LwTYjypfklQn04DfpXzhI660P08sk0bIZ/EQ bKiBie699ZOAds7gloxVIDdvbEZOC2Wc7EGBX50FkggH2OdDkKylNI2nZYq484pxq8T0 nuMZ+pqBhzFvcE1uDc+VvmfXpQNfwgJaVBqPhdXvK3oahN6ohQohke3mPIBxOOI/0Soy 1urg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:47:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: Bennett Williams To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93403d9a800d104cc9ce141 Resent-Message-ID: <2PAmzD.A.UvD.gPLhQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:48:00 +0000 (UTC) --14dae93403d9a800d104cc9ce141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I really need to get with the program and step up my looping game. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > Your set was really neat! > > There was a lot of musical diversity on display during the parts of the > festival I saw; I really enjoyed playing there as well. > > T > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > >> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill >> Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all >> weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >> > > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > -- Bennett Williams http://www.bennettwilliams.net --14dae93403d9a800d104cc9ce141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really need to get with the program and step up my looping game.

=

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Todd E= lliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
Your set was really neat!=A0

<= div>There was a lot of musical diversity on display during the parts of the= festival I saw; I really enjoyed playing there as well.=A0

T

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing <= k3zz21@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill = Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weeke= nd I could stay in there and listen for so long.




--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com



--
Bennett Williams
http://www.bennettwilliams.net<= br> --14dae93403d9a800d104cc9ce141-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 03:05:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B60B18347D; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cawqQcWLV7yYe9NNqPsvtsAw5Xwb4c5A08Wde5JIU6A=; b=TH6daYEpTiyXAr1y4Q2o0PeXamHZOLY0e2YXgAotvgMANpjUwG14d7yXGXgrnOCMA9 Nj1zMzR8QFBmQVW7BqGw3q1un3hfAsZQ9h3KVlJZ8Ju/Qe00duieIdUJrN32+DRs0H1p TYBkUVCPV2Td90EbjXy49GWDdD0klF/j/sSTMrIfQyotb5LWOs1rpbUEDlYXfroOc+eY BVx5jALtz7y+rabLTH4pi00W7N3LSPbhb8ggL3ENKTV5cAdduajmR3ftXPOGNptrUYpb Hd0ZNNosQgTyll1ImsoDPVD8KaUbfNkqtL6p6r3IYw4khMzLMRH/Uon2ODNQVQMP7p6U CSnw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:05:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ca1ace5de7604cc9d1f6a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:05:26 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307ca1ace5de7604cc9d1f6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kay'lon congratulations on what sounds like a fine first experience at Y2K, particularly at your young age. Though I could not come out this year I have had the pleasure of being and performing there every year from 2007-2010 and I hope to return next year. I hope someone has documented this year and I will look forward to seeing your set. Now take this inspiration and experience and grow and follow your muse. Cheers to everyone who is there. Jim On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Bennett Williams < bennettwilliamsdrums@gmail.com> wrote: > I really need to get with the program and step up my looping game. > > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Todd Elliott wrote= : > >> Your set was really neat! >> >> There was a lot of musical diversity on display during the parts of the >> festival I saw; I really enjoyed playing there as well. >> >> T >> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote= : >> >>> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill >>> Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all >>> weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://toaster.bandcamp.com >> > > > > -- > Bennett Williams > http://www.bennettwilliams.net > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --20cf307ca1ace5de7604cc9d1f6a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kay'lon congratulations on what sounds like a fine first experience at = Y2K, particularly at your young age. =A0Though I could not come out this ye= ar I have had the pleasure of being and performing there every year from 20= 07-2010 and I hope to return next year. =A0I hope someone has documented th= is year and I will look forward to seeing your set. =A0Now take this inspir= ation and experience and grow and follow your muse. =A0Cheers to everyone w= ho is there.

Jim

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 a= t 10:47 PM, Bennett Williams <bennettwilliamsdrums@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
I really need to get with the program and st= ep up my looping game.


=
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Todd Elliott <= span dir=3D"ltr"><toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
Your set was really neat!=A0

<= div>There was a lot of musical diversity on display during the parts of the= festival I saw; I really enjoyed playing there as well.=A0

T

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing <= k3zz21@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill = Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weeke= nd I could stay in there and listen for so long.




--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com



--
Bennett Williams
http://www.bennettwilliams.net



--
--
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, rep= etitive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--20cf307ca1ace5de7604cc9d1f6a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 04:21:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18886183482; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 04:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1597596003==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121022042128.9115.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:21:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 04:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1597596003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah!=20And=20I=20don't=20travel=20as=20a=20musician=20yet!=20Not=20even=20= nationally!=20Statewide=20at=20the=20most!=20 I'm=20in=20Michigan!=20I=20can=20only=20loop=20here,=20unless=20I=20just=20= happen=20to=20be=20visiting=20family=20in=20Ohio=20 or=20something!=20So,=20too=20bad=20for=20me! Tyler=20Z On=20Sun,=2021=20Oct=202012=2019:36:42=20-0700,=20kay'lon=20rushing=20wrote: >I=20met=20some=20great=20artists=20and=20it=20felt=20almost=20unreal=20to= =20see=20Rick=20and=20Bill=20Walker=20 >in=20person=20and=20talk=20to=20them.=20I=20wish=20I=20could=20have=20been= =20there=20all=20weekend=20I=20could=20 >stay=20in=20there=20and=20listen=20for=20so=20long.=20 --===============1597596003==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 08:46:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4C7D18347E; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:46:27 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:39:46 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <8CF7C23AD5E8CEF-1D10-1281@webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20121022083946.130840@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8CF7C23AD5E8CEF-1D10-1281@webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+/d8Bf2de/WybHp1YOTNDW/gBe2HjSYIbys79nIG YLi6NBcYxhe3h1Tq19caHW9BWaO9EsXtQogA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: BWP3cHhSeSEqWsh4kHUhyzt+IGRvb0AY Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks some more advice: 1. Follow your PASSION. 2. MENTAL PRACTICE: The less time I have, the more I use mental practice as a tool. Also, developing sight reading/notation/transcription skills helps when you have little time. >a question.....has LOOPING helped you in becoming more proficient at playing your instrument? Yes, my RHYTHMIC skills have hugely benefitted from live looping. best Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 11:20:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32AFD18347B; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1350904846; bh=Hp2O9OtDDmXKefKjMWX5sYm/b1nQHbIUjy/0Iojh+mU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=OKcPoc2wTNTcddb5rDF25B2ULwxCUkRl5HtoMZKt3ivKNCiwi0PLCY/jxKZnrR4GJvVNTtbn7KXoQ35zVFrTZhzq8sO9pOPhPNTolVnzf9jS7GGDA9iJtCs2WQPZhDmbPqol00IH1qJDwJV5gRCaXgzGrt6izM2yH8OSuyxeCiw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 662775.9443.bm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: dskpmWwVM1nP.vTidOyOMX1tEIoMXur8mh9qJrF5zXKjo3m JbyJnnIrAHJKJZzkczCuuV9oQVGSYa78NSS8ey.4qhwwee.KiIvSknh7yt45 65U_ivZTfkEOpYj7yU22hR5IzFsouOv.VPK4.TFRs02vt9T6p7s5ihNeswKg 4aH49nZGfhHhfvv4vGzG7QINzYaLTrZwRjx5E9XoHWHoi9LGdqdaDhp1ZcJd .gw6CYd7U0OtZtV4STkGMOCs1bH4FF3imyJ3v.YJQF.RZ9WAGHdxRiLmX4AM vkbLacD0hy9BCjwnTorw0KDJEyNrn.TZLoQI7kT4LZ0KE_QckVOq6j_lhH26 .JLorESCDXfRKxLdfuV.WjsU2hAs4RZMSW1N9ZTasYAkTp_XkSFPVLi9oN8V voueSWkldb0a5zX6.LPPnYeC54HURHlV32b.nRYrTuARLbw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- From: Laurie Amat Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_87481B1E-A0D3-4D09-84D0-4C7EAE72C58F" Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 04:20:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <63592D7A-A995-4ABB-AD03-83CA372AA617@att.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_87481B1E-A0D3-4D09-84D0-4C7EAE72C58F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Kaylon,=20 It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I = mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your = dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in = my head, and that says a lot! The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance. Thank you... Laurie On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and = Bill Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there = all weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >=20 --Apple-Mail=_87481B1E-A0D3-4D09-84D0-4C7EAE72C58F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Kaylon, 

It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my head, and that says a lot!

The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance.

Thank you...

Laurie
On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long.


--Apple-Mail=_87481B1E-A0D3-4D09-84D0-4C7EAE72C58F-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 11:53:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6756618347B; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nXkcSvU881+a53NvUImJkAnpTU+zoSlJsv8sU4PEv3Q=; b=O1/Oi0Fi6b5tHSXP9rQeHCEx3eqGdJIMEYOu1TInUbA5fs7BekYSqHeHEE4r6TaDnL 7h/M8Fa1wXGPlPwS6L24/2QqS4naXWQ/stWoywyN9fgOw164hHFc7KMBjpJcjR0MPNk4 JeRMjgbjRfKLNxS8gDY0y18lIHmrV4u+AqC3Bj86id9hcGCJNrPv1XjU6SqQmCHMlv4H t/7Ye46G1m1Psfc0pT5yflB8TM1ZNJBn+1hjBPHyv36iHPk2SkIE7m8gjW4a3yZZcurd 5QGYgOCxmlNCUayFscrxtsfS6gaX0W61iyRxKkQUTBCBVpRy2mavbLWkhdXhegyQaRcE BMUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <63592D7A-A995-4ABB-AD03-83CA372AA617@att.net> References: <63592D7A-A995-4ABB-AD03-83CA372AA617@att.net> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 04:53:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7dddd8d44204cca48075 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:53:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7dddd8d44204cca48075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that means. On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > Kaylon, > > It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I > mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your > dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my > head, and that says a lot! > > The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance. > > Thank you... > > Laurie > On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill > Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all > weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. > > > --0016e6db7dddd8d44204cca48075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that means.

On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat"= <voicesound@att.net> wrote= :
Kaylon,=A0

It was su= ch a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I mentioned, yo= ur music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your dynamics and se= nsitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my head, and that = says a lot!

The fact that you were personally cool only added to th= e brilliance.

Thank you...

Laurie
On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wr= ote:

I met some great artists and it felt almos= t unreal to see Rick and Bill Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I c= ould have been there all weekend I could stay in there and listen for so lo= ng.


--0016e6db7dddd8d44204cca48075-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 20:07:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3969418345E; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=I8n1QQQCTT5JwKvF8PZYXY41vlYXdo2ETGxATttR+JQ=; b=KZPmqO+JYUkMd8VrDLl2UccHrw+XnBXFZVlkgnnCoKDdzm8xKmKxetdbiN9aj8r7rK DyQqZTt7fsUatzEjclEtPMmsoLPuq+yfT3t9nvjUcdlWEL6RxVO3JhWjsB7pF7OMgPu9 1p1KYasXzPpcBsGygPqo3z1qiDiu6FY5DpTtTr4c0WVe6oEZd401SbbAJR5QFf1AeqLR S2O68DvimpItVvKvTqGvq4jjxEsgTh8M6K4u83m8UY8YLTu53cwl27lYAsbPJRGGMVOV o1GgKZyDOAWA6eL6Z2wo+YMHH26oCizMJzmHVYD3gOVtydUs2HrQtJRq5iAySIZcExOX 8tzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1350556838.41796.YahooMailNeo@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> <1350556838.41796.YahooMailNeo@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:07:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia From: Lindsey Walker Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b390f7ac41522ab04ccab6833 Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:07:46 +0000 (UTC) --485b390f7ac41522ab04ccab6833 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Me too! Lindsey On Oct 18, 2012 3:40 AM, "Luis Angulo" wrote: > > id like to join if i may;-) > > http://www.luis-angulo.com > ________________________________ > From: Rick Walker > To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:58 AM > Subject: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia > > This thread got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin), but I thought it was germane for everyone in this community to read (and perhaps some others would want to participate, both as artists and possibly festival producers): > > Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinating a summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, Norwhich and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and also in Tokyo, Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More > > > Rick Walker: Michael? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? David? Ryusei? Hideki? Randolf? > > > Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation marks! > > > Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters > > > Rick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! Georgina! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick! > > > Michael Peters: that's more like it !! > > > Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ... > > > Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam, Thailand, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in Scandinavia, but the names I've mentioned have all said that they want to officially expand the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with festivals under that umbrella name. > I think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Loopers Delight was created) that we are talking about such a scope. > > The coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modicum of money and a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through the internet (and the various festivals, of course) > > > --485b390f7ac41522ab04ccab6833 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Me too!=A0

Lindsey

On Oct 18, 2012 3:40 AM, "Luis Angulo" <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> id like to join if i may;-)
> =A0
> http://www.luis-angulo.com<= br> > ________________________________
> From: Rick Walker <looppool@= cruzio.com>
> To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:58 AM
> Subject: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK= , the US and Asia
>
> This thread got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin)= , but I thought it was germane for everyone in this community to read (and = perhaps some others would want to participate, both as artists and possibly= festival producers):
>
> Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordin= ating a summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London,= Norwhich and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" a= nd also in Tokyo, Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More
>
>
> Rick Walker: Michael? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? = David? Ryusei? Hideki? Randolf?
>
>
> Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation marks!
>
>
> Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters
>
>
> Rick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! G= eorgina! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick!
>
>
> Michael Peters: that's more like it !!
>
>
> Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ...
>
>
> Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam,= Thailand, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in Scand= inavia, but the names I've mentioned have all said that they want to of= ficially expand the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with festivals= under that umbrella name.
> I think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Lo= opers Delight was created) that we are talking about such a scope.
>
> The coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modicum of= money and a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through the i= nternet (and the various festivals, of course)
>
>
>

--485b390f7ac41522ab04ccab6833-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 20:22:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A3EC183460; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :thread-index:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=b+6SEipV6lt/KDnIbj9qUA3dv2rzrHn7aanF/3jAmGI=; b=NUzaAtxB9Gfx9hIDH1sPOc3X9Wdu2sl0UmR1xZ5xdKb4PVCHQiZ/HgJ6WMII7nsk6S rnIxu0VnBvb28kZTVxK4Nq1TncMOlwkIYeXV+efAKnXHlcM+cXXDrw+7/DnSPSvwGMKx qtPMnZsX7oT0kqeup7tEET2grvfIERfC4KdVRlSztYD2g+zlrnWH/mXWCmxm8DaT7x6G K2VeTXiSoqEjDoGGAKHdF2cMWJa96HaHiHbGtFHFr3ibXRVV3WQyrJktZkMz8uFv+aLF 0vzYCo+QKS5eKOf2vGAJjKnD5jjK0egXcrBNG2Q1aCHK8tlmzaV9rPQLqFnpqt5ETRT7 evzg== User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.32.0.111121 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:22:03 -0400 Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia From: Alisa Apreleva To: LD Message-ID: Thread-Topic: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia Thread-Index: Ac2wkuXBZ8NPDaz8cE+KXx77y85PEQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3433767726_7772270" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:22:16 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3433767726_7772270 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable And me, please! )) Alisa Apreleva http://apreleva.com On 10/22/12 4:07 PM, "Lindsey Walker" wrote: > Me too!=A0=20 >=20 > Lindsey >=20 > On Oct 18, 2012 3:40 AM, "Luis Angulo" wrote: >> > >> > id like to join if i may;-) >> > =A0 >> > http://www.luis-angulo.com >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Rick Walker >> > To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) >> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:58 AM >> > Subject: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK= , the >> US and Asia >> > >> > This thread got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin)= , but >> I thought it was germane for everyone in this community to read (and per= haps >> some others would want to participate, both as artists and possibly fest= ival >> producers): >> > >> > Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinatin= g a >> summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, Norw= hich >> and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and also in Tokyo, >> Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More >> > >> > >> > Rick Walker: Michael? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? >> David? Ryusei? Hideki? Randolf? >> > >> > >> > Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation marks! >> > >> > >> > Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters >> > >> > >> > Rick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! >> Georgina! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick! >> > >> > >> > Michael Peters: that's more like it !! >> > >> > >> > Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ... >> > >> > >> > Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam, >> Thailand, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in >> Scandinavia, but the names I've mentioned have all said that they want t= o >> officially expand the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with fest= ivals >> under that umbrella name. >> > I think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Looper= s >> Delight was created) that we are talking about such a scope. >> > >> > The coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modicum of mon= ey >> and a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through the inter= net >> (and the various festivals, of course) >> > >> > >> > >=20 --B_3433767726_7772270 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, t= he US and Asia And me, please! ))

Alisa Apreleva
http://apreleva.com


On 10/22/12 4:07 PM, "Lindsey Walker" <lindsey.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Me too!=A0

Lindsey

On Oct 18, 2012 3:40 AM, "Luis Angulo" <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> id like to join if i may;-)
> =A0
> http://www.luis-angulo.com > ________________________________
> From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.co= m>
> To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:58 AM
> Subject: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK= , the US and Asia
>
> This thread got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin)= , but I thought it was germane for everyone in this community to read (and p= erhaps some others would want to participate, both as artists and possibly f= estival producers):
>
> Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinatin= g a summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, Norw= hich and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and als= o in Tokyo, Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More
>
>
> Rick Walker: Michael? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? = David? Ryusei? Hideki? Randolf?
>
>
> Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation marks!
>
>
> Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters
>
>
> Rick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! G= eorgina! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick!
>
>
> Michael Peters: that's more like it !!
>
>
> Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ...
>
>
> Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam, Tha= iland, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in Scandinavi= a, but the names I've mentioned have all said that they want to officially e= xpand the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with festivals under that= umbrella name.
> I think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Looper= s Delight was created) that we are talking about such a scope.
>
> The coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modicum of mon= ey and a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through the intern= et (and the various festivals, of course)
>
>
>

--B_3433767726_7772270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 20:23:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AEE3183460; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :thread-index:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=3vBRA/xbO1Q3SnLqYsQ+kVuSY5LEvgFtsgwB917z8DU=; b=t9VOZqqGtBaUzBh+3+hWIhtx3BlcAXwZVwyTb/LV1ww0igKySwjrJ/nXKE1KqVRE06 XJG0JTgBddqd4/asDCW86rCivdp25Q0Uou0hHEnUNkQ6jpxtybaA9Nx7dWx2d74QR7ei pGu3p4ORNJZ39+M1OaXoPTD+yLtU9nZBDGvVOcldxQO7pyB/cS4X6FQRPsMAI3gbXLRq IicSDE3J5POj7c0cqhPfapBceTq8BhsT1Ek4hWC6GY4VeThRhmlHxAru22LBMETJrlgN Mjtnmj+ymq12vKGnakoriLmgwE6ale906NkvumQ1r6a3o+ZOwjjIJGpw4bzmGfKqUEtt EizQ== User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.32.0.111121 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:23:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: Alisa Apreleva To: LD Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 Thread-Index: Ac2wkwq2LpZFNt28Fky1hh+cUMMVtQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3433767792_7755783" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:23:14 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3433767792_7755783 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Kaylon, Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud? Alisa On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: > Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that means. >=20 > On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: >> Kaylon,=A0 >>=20 >> It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I >> mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your >> dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in = my >> head, and that says a lot! >>=20 >> The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance. >>=20 >> Thank you... >>=20 >> Laurie >> On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill >>> Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all >>> weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >>=20 >=20 --B_3433767792_7755783 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 Kaylon,

Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud?

Alisa


On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that m= eans.

On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Kaylon,=A0

It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I ment= ioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your dynamic= s and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my head, an= d that says a lot!

The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance.

Thank you...

Laurie
On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>
I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill Wal= ker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weekend I= could stay in there and listen for so long.
=
=
--B_3433767792_7755783-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 20:37:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5250F183461; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:37:24 UTC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1597596003==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121022202859.31196.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:28:59 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1597596003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm=20in=20Grand=20Rapids,=20Michigan,=20and=20I=20think=20Michigan=20needs= =20a=20loopfest. Tyler=20Z On=20Mon,=2022=20Oct=202012=2016:22:03=20-0400,=20Alisa=20Apreleva=20wrote: >And=20me,=20please!=20)) >Alisa=20Apreleva >http://apreleva.com >On=2010/22/12=204:07=20PM,=20"Lindsey=20Walker"=20=20wrote: >Me=20too!=20 >Lindsey >On=20Oct=2018,=202012=203:40=20AM,=20"Luis=20Angulo"=20=20wrote: >>id=20like=20to=20join=20if=20i=20may;-) >>http://www.luis-angulo.com >>________________________________ >>From:=20Rick=20Walker=20 >>To:=20LOOPERS=20DELIGHT=20(posting)=20=20 >>Sent:=20Friday,=20October=2012,=202012=2010:58=20AM >>Subject:=20COORDINATED=20Y2K13=20LOOPFESTIVALS=20next=20summer=20in=20Eur= ope,=20the=20UK,=20the=20US=20 >>and=20Asia >>This=20thread=20got=20started=20on=20Facebook=20(by=20Leander=20Reiningha= us=20in=20Berlin),=20but=20I=20 >>thought=20it=20was=20germane=20for=20everyone=20in=20this=20community=20t= o=20read=20(and=20perhaps=20some=20 >>others=20would=20want=20to=20participate,=20both=20as=20artists=20and=20p= ossibly=20festival=20 >>producers): >>Rick=20Walker:=20.................=20I'm=20starting=20to=20think=20about= =20coordinating=20a=20 >>summer=20of=20festivals=20in=20Berlin,=20Koln,=20Roma,=20Firenze,=20Milan= o,=20London,=20Norwhich=20 >>and=20Penarth=20to=20name=20those=20who=20have=20said=20they=20are=20"IN"= =20and=20also=20in=20Tokyo,=20Osaka,=20 >>Singapore=20and=20possibly...See=20More >>Rick=20Walker:=20Michael?=20Massimo?=20Bruno?=20Fabio?=20Gaetano?=20Andy?= =20Georgina?=20David?=20 >>Ryusei?=20Hideki?=20Randolf? >>Michael=20Peters:=20replace=20the=20question=20marks=20by=20exclamation= =20marks! >>Rick=20Walker:=20I=20like=20your=20style,=20Michael=20Peters >>Rick=20Walker:=20Michael!=20Leander!=20Massimo!=20Bruno!=20Fabio!=20Gaeta= no!=20Andy!=20Georgina!=20 >>David!=20Ryusei!=20Hideki!=20Randolf!=20Rick! >>Michael=20Peters:=20that's=20more=20like=20it=20!! >>Michael=20Peters:=20of=20course,=20many=20more=20names=20could=20be=20add= ed=20... >>Rick=20Walker:=20I'm=20actually=20talking=20with=20people=20about=20Bali,= =20Vietnam,=20Thailand,=20 >>Vien,=20Zurich,=20Munchen,=20Croatia=20and=20possibly=20some=20places=20i= n=20Scandinavia,=20but=20the=20 >>names=20I've=20mentioned=20have=20all=20said=20that=20they=20want=20to=20= officially=20expand=20the=20 >>Y2K13=20International=20Live=20Looping=20concept=20with=20festivals=20und= er=20that=20umbrella=20 >>name. >>I=20think=20it's=20very=20exciting=20that=20a=20mere=2012=20years=20later= =20(17=20since=20Loopers=20Delight=20 >>was=20created)=20that=20we=20are=20talking=20about=20such=20a=20scope. >>The=20coolest=20thing=20is=20that=20we've=20done=20all=20of=20this=20with= =20a=20modicum=20of=20money=20and=20a=20 >>maximum=20of=20community=20involvement..........mostly=20through=20the=20= internet=20(and=20the=20 >>various=20festivals,=20of=20course) --===============1597596003==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 20:38:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F7F3183465; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ayIhjfnlEUQfes+VWOzXJDvegKjWy3tiHhf6/GViDVY=; b=mzCgRo8Ye3592cb9nciEo8tmziXQXxhVd7w7giRrx1RevI3ncF7ln4YkB+ODh7S6tP H/ZsKuvudmIJUmkox9NiTsqIkIYQjFI3tzdaZOrKb45Bh1kHmzbqWR3TaAUU0kkQf8HU +kdRWD3BNybIgf5Dgbg2VSEDwnbj5CF3yKSZ0+k4Mx+86DmIMUz4pFUGmexWh4ngVr2H A7MzK8CtrECi1aKU+vPd7wrVq2gqekQ+XNzuk6zCsqGyOesU7UBuJQcHLi9Cgy1UTwxJ S10jJzsREFTM9NJuimyMM2skgpi6cUena5Ir1h5xnsHKIe70+mCr62Ro60eCeF+4bLPb 7hpw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:38:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3440c68e3b6c04ccabd576 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:38:22 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3440c68e3b6c04ccabd576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Since I am watching it now, I'll go ahead and post the link on Kaylon's behalf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=youtube_gdata T On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alisa Apreleva wrote: > Kaylon, > > Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud? > > Alisa > > > > On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: > > Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that means. > > On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > > Kaylon, > > It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I > mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your > dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my > head, and that says a lot! > > The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance. > > Thank you... > > Laurie > On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > > I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill > Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all > weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. > > > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --047d7b3440c68e3b6c04ccabd576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since I am watching it now, I'll go ahead and post the link on Kaylon&#= 39;s behalf:


T


On Mon, = Oct 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alisa Apreleva <apreleva@gmail.com> wrote:
Kaylon,

Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud?

Alisa



On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank La= urie!!! You have no idea how much that means.

On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
Kaylon,=A0

It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I ment= ioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your dynami= cs and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my head, = and that says a lot!

The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance.

Thank you...

Laurie
On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:


I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill Wal= ker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weekend = I could stay in there and listen for so long.





--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--047d7b3440c68e3b6c04ccabd576-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 21:46:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98D1A18345E; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lD+xQBPfVxf4ZZsksL0RyKpvf509Db+R8Gnd599/n2s=; b=Debg8ZGb79wy/Z19XOtmqLMszXFGUL90RNoLS2vCySCK7c+y0jDW/xre6kIoDxLXJX urwu/zTkhAFL4SAv/eWP+BMH/4hcLiWV07HII75fNe7aBTSqNf2cTZwrMlID8YnjrmID sXSG7sQ7Sr/1UpO2Ndqg/Kcd09Rl0D1o1GvztWcxGBaXxsbvnvkY0FczfbOz+OhWNHSK BfPfTwpcOd3++HIhy5mW94db4rg8tzgEP06L5yUwW8oNNJ3AzaiwL+DBlK+fLGs+l2Ig c90N3nkANSy/2Z8qQbJPBa4Nhiaw8ec6+lIu83Y68n6ah8qS4y/U/qdDsMKTZT13AdiL ZPKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:46:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444ec9da4686004ccacc947 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0444ec9da4686004ccacc947 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Tyler can I hear your music? It sounds like what im interested in. Links? Thank you Todd On Oct 22, 2012 1:38 PM, "Todd Elliott" wrote: > Since I am watching it now, I'll go ahead and post the link on Kaylon's > behalf: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=youtube_gdata > > T > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alisa Apreleva wrote: > >> Kaylon, >> >> Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud? >> >> Alisa >> >> >> >> On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: >> >> Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that means. >> >> On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: >> >> Kaylon, >> >> It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I >> mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your >> dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my >> head, and that says a lot! >> >> The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance. >> >> Thank you... >> >> Laurie >> On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >> >> >> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill >> Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all >> weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > --f46d0444ec9da4686004ccacc947 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tyler can I hear your music? It sounds like what im interested in. Links= ?
Thank you Todd

On Oct 22, 2012 1:38 PM, "Todd Elliott"= ; <toddbert@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Since I am watching it now, I'll go ahead and post the link on Kaylon&#= 39;s behalf:


T


On Mon, = Oct 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alisa Apreleva <apreleva@gmail.com> wrote:
Kaylon,

Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud?

Alisa



On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank Laurie!!! You h= ave no idea how much that means.

On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
Kaylon,=A0

It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I ment= ioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your dynami= cs and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my head, = and that says a lot!

The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance.

Thank you...

Laurie
On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:


I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill Wal= ker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weekend = I could stay in there and listen for so long.





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http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--f46d0444ec9da4686004ccacc947-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 21:50:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A7B9183461; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=g3eG4AhNjdsFia7nHiZKdQCIDQPbvB8Y8R99/dy6lzc=; b=eR+w1gYZfzOo6VxZQ3gh1hlnA9TB937rv4LIfbcwb+pxETIfhcXON7kU/E8fjOwBGy N6w/BTW8aZ8MVgBNwt3S6XQGbtJCQz5COT6Ulo4WPS/pF9/pMWx9bY03VuAcIgg/nfdu S/ei/3djhAb/60jKeQbsaIH9kD+Zt4TMy9uL6nERQmjtJCu39u2tXWlFw3m3W/YD7DP/ KNXt8/OK8yUiNZVUFaTeH9LbaGWH87gh4yHF8T1TlR+vbFR5IzzEiL+VB+Fxw/nqEAKI goXqO4CZCJTmvQmoScUgredSbSsl+j/2CfQx+EhBMX4qKXvXAGFJYB/CrxCwIqx7/mtM PyWw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:50:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f22c889f4d3be04ccacd7ca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:50:38 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f22c889f4d3be04ccacd7ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I agree with Laurie. You had great expression and attitude. You made me 'have to' dance! Lindsey On Oct 22, 2012 2:46 PM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: > > Tyler can I hear your music? It sounds like what im interested in. Links? > Thank you Todd > > On Oct 22, 2012 1:38 PM, "Todd Elliott" wrote: >> >> Since I am watching it now, I'll go ahead and post the link on Kaylon's behalf: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=youtube_gdata >> >> T >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alisa Apreleva wrote: >>> >>> Kaylon, >>> >>> Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud? >>> >>> Alisa >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: >>> >>>> Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that means. >>>> >>>> On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Kaylon, >>>>> >>>>> It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my head, and that says a lot! >>>>> >>>>> The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you... >>>>> >>>>> Laurie >>>>> On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://toaster.bandcamp.com --e89a8f22c889f4d3be04ccacd7ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree with Laurie.=A0 You had great expression and attitude.=A0 You ma= de me 'have to' dance!

Lindsey

On Oct 22, 2012 2:46 PM, "kay&apos;lon rushing" <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tyler can I hear your music? It sounds like what im interested in. Lin= ks?
> Thank you Todd
>
> On Oct 22, 2012 1:38 PM, "Todd Elliott" <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Since I am watching it now, I'll go ahead and post the link on= Kaylon's behalf:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9hIAPqKrr1U&feature= =3Dyoutube_gdata
>>
>> T
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alisa Apreleva <apreleva@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kaylon,
>>>
>>> Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud?
>>>
>>> Alisa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that means.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Kaylon,=A0
>>>>>
>>>>> It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hea= r you play. As I mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were= amazing, your dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear t= he music in my head, and that says a lot!
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that you were personally cool only added to t= he brilliance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you...
>>>>>
>>>>> Laurie
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote= :
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal= to see Rick and Bill Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could hav= e been there all weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://toaster.bandcamp.co= m

--e89a8f22c889f4d3be04ccacd7ca-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 21:55:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6BCD183461; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1597596003==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121022215500.5385.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:55:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1597596003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=20will=20be=20a=20while=20before=20I=20have=20links=20available. Tyler=20Z On=20Mon,=2022=20Oct=202012=2014:46:36=20-0700,=20kay'lon=20rushing=20wrote: >Tyler=20can=20I=20hear=20your=20music?=20It=20sounds=20like=20what=20im=20= interested=20in.=20Links? >Thank=20you=20Todd >On=20Oct=2022,=202012=201:38=20PM,=20"Todd=20Elliott"=20http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata >T >On=20Mon,=20Oct=2022,=202012=20at=201:23=20PM,=20Alisa=20Apreleva=20=20wrote: >Kaylon, >Is=20there=20any=20way=20to=20hear=20you=20play?=20Youtube?=20Soundcloud? >Alisa >On=2010/22/12=207:53=20AM,=20"kay'lon=20rushing"=20=20wr= ote: >Thank=20Laurie!!!=20You=20have=20no=20idea=20how=20much=20that=20means. >On=20Oct=2022,=202012=204:20=20AM,=20"Laurie=20Amat"=20=20wrote: >Kaylon, >It=20was=20such=20a=20wonderful=20experience=20to=20meet=20you=20and=20hea= r=20you=20play.=20As=20I=20 >mentioned,=20your=20music=20painted=20pictures,=20your=20textures=20were= =20amazing,=20your=20 >dynamics=20and=20sensitivity=20were=20incredible.=20I=20can=20still=20hear= =20the=20music=20in=20my=20 >head,=20and=20that=20says=20a=20lot! >The=20fact=20that=20you=20were=20personally=20cool=20only=20added=20to=20t= he=20brilliance. >Thank=20you... >Laurie >On=20Oct=2021,=202012,=20at=207:36=20PM,=20kay'lon=20rushing=20wrote: >I=20met=20some=20great=20artists=20and=20it=20felt=20almost=20unreal=20to= =20see=20Rick=20and=20Bill=20Walker=20 >in=20person=20and=20talk=20to=20them.=20I=20wish=20I=20could=20have=20been= =20there=20all=20weekend=20I=20could=20 >stay=20in=20there=20and=20listen=20for=20so=20long.=20 >--=20 >http://toaster.bandcamp.com --===============1597596003==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 23:09:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F03BE183464; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4+ieRiBsrCDg9wOGXsE3eWt1ViUvj4DhNZ4G//ROxfM=; b=vTk7CCbkza9SDExJ+vTchHlTAa5mlKcXWMAVV2Hxuqpm91DqZE59c0UP+yJ5wWtN9z 5qzxqx5h20+bY183/rwe9azjgzYl0XMiBJsOXE1ZSYAnwO0IUDDK6Uz3kMzQsccdy0my o8BraAJmRbk9VQ+EbMk1gdhUe74oZamyB5TFh21Fe5/+Czpvn8taiCf3VDro1HNNE7YS 9zy2HYxOwzrBdjZAZSHQzSvl4QBdww/ppHYNXODQcWUOFDr7lnqkvde2oEcj50Kzxbny g9msI2hV17UgerguglLGL0jX6E6utCMczMQg6cvFMbdWzvDRKHGwWnwBIEEfMK3E9hVG QnxQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> References: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:09:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7ddd56764404ccadf3dd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:09:51 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7ddd56764404ccadf3dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Where in the US? And what do you mean festival producer On Oct 12, 2012 1:58 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > This thread got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin), > but I thought it was germane for everyone in this community to read (and > perhaps some others would want to participate, both as artists and possibly > festival producers): > > Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinating a > summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, > Norwhich and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and also in > Tokyo, Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More > > > Rick Walker: Michael? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? > David? Ryusei? Hideki? Randolf? > > > Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation marks! > > > Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters > > > Rick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! > Georgina! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick! > > > Michael Peters: that's more like it !! > > > Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ... > > > Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam, > Thailand, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in > Scandinavia, but the names I've mentioned have all said that they want to > officially expand the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with > festivals under that umbrella name. > I think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Loopers > Delight was created) that we are talking about such a scope. > > The coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modicum of money > and a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through the internet > (and the various festivals, of course) > > --0016e6db7ddd56764404ccadf3dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Where in the US? And what do you mean festival producer

On Oct 12, 2012 1:58 AM, "Rick Walker"= <looppool@cruzio.com> wro= te:
This thread got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin), but= I thought it was germane for everyone in this community to read (and perha= ps some others would want to participate, both as artists and possibly fest= ival producers):

Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinating= a summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, Norw= hich and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and al= so in Tokyo, Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More


Rick Walker: Michael? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? David= ? Ryusei? Hideki? Randolf?


Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation marks!


Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters


Rick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! Georgi= na! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick!


Michael Peters: that's more like it !!


Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ...


Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam, Thai= land, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in Scandinavi= a, but the names I've mentioned have all said that they want to officia= lly expand the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with festivals unde= r that umbrella name.
I think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Loopers= Delight was created) that we are talking about such a scope.

The coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modicum of mone= y and a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through the intern= et (and the various festivals, of course)

--0016e6db7ddd56764404ccadf3dd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 23:15:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD9B418345C; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0/lnmgjmS6jNxh9t/BOhR1IAqEFny0i0ilYQmbe0oqE=; b=EeVFYvhVAn1Wi5K1uI+ICG537kuwyAEM14mgDlMxUM5NmMWVjZ45hC1nHEBTuRuGl6 kFrmHoabdFuj8F8GgV4mQjv9xy1Igx5794e2tYWd+rOhLNiPci8/scpt1qhhC5VWoDay sqUYh+GYCstp4kR/BVdP9nqcbDCiNUMiGWyKchZDZ6ClF77j0mN121DQvQmoGakaVo89 rfi8kGB/nROle5aPUBeo5g7rLdGUsWk9UPlXE9L4NtG84AY0J0d0J4oJghT5iKf/JjOi DNjJ2MqbLF9PDoCGk58Op3vrfQm22nGt3SnqKanGv5zEGu3YSCYkE1vkRML2MSB1wwzU 02aQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:15:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de006edf0ec904ccae053d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:15:03 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de006edf0ec904ccae053d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1BVRTzahvM&feature=youtube_gdata_player https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=youtube_gdata_player Not sure if anyone saw me post the links earlier but here they are again. On Oct 21, 2012 7:36 PM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: > I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill > Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all > weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. > --0016e6de006edf0ec904ccae053d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW1BVRTzahvM&featur= e=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9hIAPqKrr1U&feat= ure=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Not sure if anyone saw me post the links earlier but here they are again= .

On Oct 21, 2012 7:36 PM, "kay'lon rushi= ng" <k3zz21@gmail.com> w= rote:

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill = Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weeke= nd I could stay in there and listen for so long.

--0016e6de006edf0ec904ccae053d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 00:55:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5608618345E; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=czjBMDOdv8fgvkcyvso4tmdp8Q0lJ4tIXVaFcpI9cA8=; b=dJN1zYkA99AhOkZ2voFN6MGR8501Tbqirzki4xbVhmhCyOpbDw6SD6IueTI4umWOL3 HcAk37kHCytxrYjMgZ0rck6ycOf1XoymmldzczntTSaspK86U74K0qujWCyH8Fh3vNG9 X3rVeb1byQwidSUR5+Cx/e0x6c766C5/PMJpwBVV1UuE510eQdLlaorFGC1G2d/IdN/b cU7+yKnYSg2eflDxW6cZuBCEsDg2oEGebWjsLVN6ixBMqpuJmSKGR1S5qT37jPFcmhSk XDx09JWaPSm+J1bRPPTYYETT17zsyr0gP8sNM0tl4c7uP4BQx7KqxIeCONNR1Zb8r4jD FdWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:55:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fbd3ac5412504ccaf6e66 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:55:58 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54fbd3ac5412504ccaf6e66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What camera did you use? T On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1BVRTzahvM&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > Not sure if anyone saw me post the links earlier but here they are again. > On Oct 21, 2012 7:36 PM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: > >> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill >> Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all >> weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >> > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --bcaec54fbd3ac5412504ccaf6e66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What camera did you use?

T

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com= > wrote:

http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW1BVRTzahvM&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9h= IAPqKrr1U&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Not sure if anyone saw me post the links earlier but here they are again= .

On Oct 21, 2012 7:36 PM, "kay'lon rushi= ng" <k3zz21@g= mail.com> wrote:

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill = Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weeke= nd I could stay in there and listen for so long.




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--bcaec54fbd3ac5412504ccaf6e66-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 02:37:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0A7F183461; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Mi3r9Xkzo/yE9yZMaF0ahCIK+3oo/xSvcDFaig6VIM4=; b=mp0XK9vSuFn7QLkArXrjuALCKWS8gp2r527gaib9pSv8nwFKM/p7FuGzgy4HlieCWS 5rwitEf2Zf4MPnQc3NcCN8ClaTRftfCEBOtFpuaprCpCU4o5ZJSvVsAw/xohRcdfxAw0 be797MgmiFVMNyQPTea1qBZ/QakGgQyEVMb1jQH+BM2ddQ/qFgqAsmBl0VrLrTmWG6lz 93JBEDv8447eBk7zGHztMRC9JQu8dVQ+vWNxXROFd1J7TULOvyIhMnJUiFhq3su12ZU4 ixGH8/RnNSEjkMlPowyvj+NW5T89S8w6RL/VGX/Rnu+2y7oi42DrEJAIYWdmMRlSQewP 3/Zg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:37:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043895856f7baf04ccb0dacc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:37:39 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043895856f7baf04ccb0dacc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Go Pro Hero 1 On Oct 22, 2012 5:56 PM, "Todd Elliott" wrote: > What camera did you use? > > T > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1BVRTzahvM&feature=youtube_gdata_player >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=youtube_gdata_player >> >> Not sure if anyone saw me post the links earlier but here they are again. >> On Oct 21, 2012 7:36 PM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: >> >>> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill >>> Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all >>> weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >>> >> > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > --f46d043895856f7baf04ccb0dacc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Go Pro Hero 1

On Oct 22, 2012 5:56 PM, "Todd Elliott"= ; <toddbert@gmail.com> wrot= e:
What camera did you use?

T

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com= > wrote:

http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW1BVRTzahvM&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9h= IAPqKrr1U&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Not sure if anyone saw me post the links earlier but here they are again= .

On Oct 21, 2012 7:36 PM, "kay'lon rushi= ng" <k3zz21@g= mail.com> wrote:

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill = Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weeke= nd I could stay in there and listen for so long.




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--f46d043895856f7baf04ccb0dacc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 03:30:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F3E318345E; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=MJv2c8ijNKhH1F2n7obBEt64YS7LJ8PhHbX6iL2VH/k=; b=TRuMijV8UwMghW3W/iSf9o9BNXy7q9l5nxdPz0oG3p/wmZ5Vh2HIG/THLVGNLqMQ79 /6LodxfgZecNQr+KRWeKtrGk5PM3lYLtqZFB9wfUUJ9tqgHXML214zwrvAdb+fJRJUBi ErO9cU1NBrRQ80cRP2VJtAR5Qk2Oc3f6/DnDlyrgVTrWeE6JSNuGUfp3YqeF+oJQm6IN QFG9iqL6YAVVKpmABWcs2kGVCB/qEm5mtzwy51HInnyEqebs7Mw1+vEB6iPVboioGbgG aBI7cqdsJzkZ3LyxCBCfWUzb2XnEt+DVdb8mvz8vE1vna8Vj7oNYcGG+/Vqs4UHrHmJb IcfA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: LP1 for sale UPDATE From: Philip In-Reply-To: <3281CE06-45C6-49C2-ACFC-2EFB2F0C49C4@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:30:26 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <423D28FE-BE51-4FE6-8F28-D4F793D425AA@gmail.com> References: <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> <5083DB61.2070904@cruzio.com> <3281CE06-45C6-49C2-ACFC-2EFB2F0C49C4@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: <8SrJgB.A.AjF.W9ghQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:30:31 +0000 (UTC) I should've posted this as a comment on the for sale message I posted = earlier, but my mail software doesn't allow me to see the messages that = I sent. I have received several offers to buy the LP1 that I listed for sale, = but I have decided NOT to sell it until I find out about the new = firmware. I hear that Rick Walker is testing it out right now. I've had = MIDI sync problems with the LP1 and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that = this update will actually materialize and solve those problems. If it = doesn't happen, I will be selling. My stuff is based on syncing my = guitar and noise loops to beats on old Roland x0x gear. Right now I'm using three EDPs, which still doesn't come close to what I = could do with a fully operational LP1. If things don't work out, I will = post another for sale message and get back to the people who contacted = me. Happy looping! Philip From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 04:33:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9835183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=NamQg/uTRDdwxjRYcjrG7rzSa4cPAvMKl23dY+R0hdY=; b=qI6mLxSN1psSTdBhJLp7+BWUwAFm41T0wYZBAQZGFeytr5Cb3gPmtfN+ZQvdY3Yjhm lJIVpDDMAW81+JNo/qhA6eNcA10Lc4zTgN1BfJaNLKY9uF3KFIvTooyrAOh/iIChoLYc TjGhQ0nXj/tPHjJHPNs1ABjHsKCfidxRIjsUzvP7agC5/s/zMR76fT7fJePDCdKioxXY nWTfwQF9FVqug0IgsVNmRnjTF6ga5lb60lAeKZalXQpD0UK9aES25I+6kHGn0VT2OJHw 3HKk3CxXDJuAUoVvb93gpF+YHGzt2OC8gs7lLVFXIsrr7w04LVuctEtXawWEQSjAcMaO XT4Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:32:49 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7OgDCAO_u0PYOfhFKhwoAuFlKSY Message-ID: Subject: mobius/ableton -- stereo bounce output question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c81ee95198104ccb27798 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:33:10 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c81ee95198104ccb27798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi there, silly question -- how can I route my Mobius/Ableton to a stereo master track, and then make a stereo bounce of everything that was recorded? I have it set up much the way Sim has it here: http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/mobiusableton.jpg but when I render a bounce in Ableton (of the Master track), what it renders is just what was recorded, not what was recorded & played back.. thoughts? many thanks!, Ljova -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom --f46d043c81ee95198104ccb27798 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi there,

silly question --=A0
how can I route= my Mobius/Ableton to a stereo master track, and then make a stereo bounce = of everything that was recorded?

I have it set up = much the way Sim has it here:

but when I render a bounce in Ableton (of the Master tr= ack), what it renders is just what was recorded, not what was recorded &= ; played back..

thoughts?

many thanks!,
Ljova

--f46d043c81ee95198104ccb27798-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 06:40:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FA3B183463; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=paOS4whkOzjwrsQTEPGZkTko6Ey52VEGV5KsrGspnXM=; b=WFzIA0pjw+5o9Ul/Q6MmwrN0qDG3JAHTG4B2PuqKXRNYJsCTgf6lFMGGDVTabBEPCe awY/4hRrXKyDItdFcWVFjS+2DYpfah07pGs8umrEratg212QH09DEvMIAlOVfV0Iqp8f gIxMXL1mfVPbhnbnDxVMDlnygPVA8golMyGrfkB0ltTHO+9uwMqrqXv/PlYTeFFhGFW1 hlKZevjq2lUpV/5p8Ds5z++rQXNYnCXu55HwcHJkAqueAaape4kvDXhEpVuotvek+Jh+ VhjJ+kOriVxvCj6gOkhbI6wTGxhhxkz1jbK9/Oq9JQUXuvbOsVFYTcvwrbMoilDu7ZXb K2UA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: leesloanpianist@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> References: <5080839B.2090008@pobox.com> <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:40:45 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BXKU7sIvpXCA6tXy9w5AmHdo4yo Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Any news on the LP1? From: MasterMuso To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f838b35ee1add04ccb43f00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:40:47 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f838b35ee1add04ccb43f00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In addition to the new 1.4 software, Bob suggested that there is also a planned firmware upgrade. Any news on that, Rick? On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay by one week, but I've been > given > 1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature laden) 1.39, > to beta test. > Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it now, as > we speak. > > It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady workable LP-2 > Mini Looper out to the market > coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week have > led to the delays. > > He's not shipping LP-2s. It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last night at > touch the looper and I'll be using > mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and > enhance fidelity from the first iteration, > so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, thankful > to say. > > Rick Walker > > > On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote: > >> >> >> Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixed on that >> version citing that previously stable features had been broken. (not the >> first time the upgrades had that issue). Some people say 1.34 was the last >> stable version. That says something. (google: 'looperlative 1.34 stable' ) >> > > --e89a8f838b35ee1add04ccb43f00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In addition to the new 1.4 software, Bob suggested that there is also a pla= nned firmware upgrade. Any news on that, Rick?

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com<= /a>> wrote:
The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay= by one week, but I've been given
1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature laden) 1.39, t= o beta test.
Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it now, as w= e speak.

It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady workable LP= -2 Mini Looper out to the market
coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week have led= to the delays.

He's not shipping LP-2s. =A0It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last nig= ht at touch the looper and I'll be using
mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and enhance= fidelity from the first iteration,
so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, thankful t= o say.

Rick Walker


On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote:


Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixed on that ver= sion citing that previously stable features had been broken. =A0(not the fi= rst time the upgrades had that issue). =A0Some people say 1.34 was the last= stable version. =A0That says something. (google: =A0'looperlative 1.34= stable' )


--e89a8f838b35ee1add04ccb43f00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 09:31:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51F59183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=eSqzokoIMEwd4R2sDFi+KTb4sNMEgw1fgTsho9FC7tk=; b=LwmT7/C7fUx6ZK3fqs6BEUrAS9tS8om3YobD+hmEjTpsj+viRk/X5XAE4R/heaOZ+O UD2x+kZfjuOHHa1vXDrSPanMnXWoV5lC5Bm+nTLb/cWnwYWJMjjdrjk0v899gxmEVvZ6 jh/NetKxgBz8ZAeGsJMYbt35wWcPppTm2mRTvdyHAr5BePPxjHF+PuYzGuqLz2l9In40 2bfV4XtbusNiNlxMA+Fh7VJV/6mEGdXkPvz03Nw279nAhOrUGdlxSFh1cDmJVAADgI71 uU0R+rJitXkrMGKgveT3ptWlSHUrtqiO+zpK18kqdwqyyydcdZb+1l7CEXpSGpA6Wevx FDnQ== From: Simeon Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--984696296 Subject: Re: mobius/ableton -- stereo bounce output question Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:30:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <583CD66E-4972-46C0-8201-4B7798809EA4@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: <4pnhG.A.dh.VPmhQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:31:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--984696296 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii create a new audio track. set "audio in" to "master" and "audio to" to = "sends only" this should capture everything that is going to the master output sim On 23 Oct 2012, at 05:32, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/mobiusableton.jpg --Apple-Mail-1--984696296 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

this should capture = everything that is going to the master = output

sim

On 23 Oct 2012, = at 05:32, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote:

To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7ddd44a1f604ccb7b980 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:49:27 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7ddd44a1f604ccb7b980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, I've been working with a rather basic looping technique which is to just record each instrument to its own track and control track volume independently with the faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation techniques can I add to my looping to make it more interesting? I use FL Studio hosting mobius as a VST so Im kind of limited as far as syncing options. --0016e6db7ddd44a1f604ccb7b980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello, I've been working with a rather basic looping technique which= is to just record each instrument to its own track and control track volum= e independently with the faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation tech= niques can I add to my looping to make it more interesting? I use FL Studio= hosting mobius as a VST so Im kind of limited as far as syncing options.

--0016e6db7ddd44a1f604ccb7b980-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 10:55:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA1FF18345E; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=VToMavBh2UkWTq9lBYRB3Gm2or9wnKhnxZCX98How9A=; b=0t0RCoMfkh9CUrtVf9c+WY3W9RIdXm1pSKNtMRJf35hbLW5uCVa24lblIaAbc1hmGd MWrCcLEZpZmhPJBnAtI4m1D5iAjSKlVibBtgIAjOtw+/w+/+XbE3VHmGOzruxt4pVBY5 6u1e3E4Urbmt9EgfM0Z/p7onXQ0Fuy2+KQdMiO3S91OaQjz0Wp56kb4JrRBgyGDZZiqz mfAqaA3EV0NGgQ4kRD+u8WZTa/RXbawjUf3wdDaoqcLntlp1Qp0P9+uG/rupQZ2UfPDr IpZUNlt0it6700isoUCc02Xpem8INqT40/8rjNThj18XTmdCeEbnnafGv6Gnd+6Kvo40 sGUA== From: Simeon Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--979632246 Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:55:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:55:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--979632246 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii if you're using Mobius, then you have a couple of options if you have all 8 Mobius tracks coming out separately, then you can add = some plugins to those tracks for sound manipulation, like delay, reverb, = pitch shifting, modulation, pan, randomisation etc etc. if you sync = Reaper's clock to Mobius, then any time based plugins will be in sync you can also use some of the features built into Mobius, like shuffle, = reverse, rate shift and various scripting tricks to fool around with the = audio once it's recorded, or as you record it sim On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:49, kay'lon rushing wrote: > Hello, I've been working with a rather basic looping technique which = is to just record each instrument to its own track and control track = volume independently with the faders on my axiom. What kind of = manipulation techniques can I add to my looping to make it more = interesting? I use FL Studio hosting mobius as a VST so Im kind of = limited as far as syncing options. --Apple-Mail-2--979632246 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hello, = I've been working with a rather basic looping technique which is to just = record each instrument to its own track and control track volume = independently with the faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation = techniques can I add to my looping to make it more interesting? I use FL = Studio hosting mobius as a VST so Im kind of limited as far as syncing = options.


= --Apple-Mail-2--979632246-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 11:34:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B8FD183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=owMq6uhhTjjEdfgqlns2dMkIEQH/8/+1msMAyuYqQbE=; b=NcZDCQeEF8ExU4iU1e4z4RI9umzoBiZmWjr2sQTv3k704jTqGj3GqAFCQAMjLjx0Vn 3jx8KkH+aml/b9nE1J8JI++YiFKqLi+j8AG9f7NvnadrW9N7dFtC4BcdoS/fY3SbHDHm 1MLGEkglKWHnC4+8u3pqf26jYEJ4YzCD8KKKhl9sBqQ37aed1alGflmM+Lq0KknAIGeu 0gfvL/TlNguIVtg0U6izdgzyTzYvQ/iJAkT+eU5PIXAFIXFUDiM+aUB4SJbWcX37ENsH v6wFgGhNGZtGJh5yrQxk8ZcJK8d8Srdj95qmT6HbZXwG79R48d73nctORBdcsePCA0pN eifQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:34:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Like Sim said. I'd like to also recommend the Sustain Substitute function. Especially together with setting up a fader on your keyboard (or other MIDI controller) to manipulate Secondary Feedback on the fly. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > if you're using Mobius, then you have a couple of options > > if you have all 8 Mobius tracks coming out separately, then you can add some > plugins to those tracks for sound manipulation, like delay, reverb, pitch > shifting, modulation, pan, randomisation etc etc. if you sync Reaper's clock > to Mobius, then any time based plugins will be in sync > > you can also use some of the features built into Mobius, like shuffle, > reverse, rate shift and various scripting tricks to fool around with the > audio once it's recorded, or as you record it > > sim > > On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:49, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > Hello, I've been working with a rather basic looping technique which is to > just record each instrument to its own track and control track volume > independently with the faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation > techniques can I add to my looping to make it more interesting? I use FL > Studio hosting mobius as a VST so Im kind of limited as far as syncing > options. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 12:18:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80C26183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=4kbIlTbmt8UkTxXUoKHIWMO2SSN6AYmBinq8pkEKdJo=; b=eG4FPkO2vFovphTQrX4xtGHOy+aIlKdQB6OJc/RI6IWMYEF3ugVxLh6oSx9tHsdNCk MPVp2oTFNC1xWHGPaRXW5XKLsCePJvYjzFZSHTCn5xlzbycXd0MvOkpLnLhF8n82H36R ZvJtQiv425iPE9XDq4JW1PlKas54WvjIvx+FNMRxjB1DlFX+TkMRovOVlSgeCyzEvwTi Edze6fPfGovaHiobJZw2Uhpl3VPBM5qjceYCaXHxEb11DBZWvwt3IX0N82FwHQf/CEmq XDGHQJdmPlhtSd3V9av7FqsBLcAfC5lRtREFRQ7aM/bZeeSZEkWY5LRXOsiiQ63aHI/w v7ZQ== Subject: Re: mobius/ableton -- stereo bounce output question References: <583CD66E-4972-46C0-8201-4B7798809EA4@googlemail.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <583CD66E-4972-46C0-8201-4B7798809EA4@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <69F724A6-8557-486E-AE57-EE53D12CDCF1@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:18:24 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: <4q1b-D.A.O6B.asohQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:18:34 +0000 (UTC) You can also use 'resampling' as the input. That will also capture everythin= g.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Simeon Harris w= rote: > create a new audio track. set "audio in" to "master" and "audio to" to "se= nds only" >=20 > this should capture everything that is going to the master output >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 14:32:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFDCE183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 509909.69971.bm@omp1069.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1351002753; bh=rWOdmYTMqWNM1sKYCKry8sG0UZDaJlftWHuzf5DjOBs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WETQC+E6v8kzkgoZgJk/05522VwTrL6psC3pZHIpoTO53dmIzEJteRX7J2kL8QvE6GSlohnYhgYDpQtvKVWkAsw3RUvDPgY/ukq4dg7hsqyJeg15bnBAs/VqOb6GJyCqkX6a8xxzK9YS0C/FCQGTLuIZbx2GL+nOuUCyRwSXKb4= X-YMail-OSG: M5jk05wVM1kLzmyjsiT_tT1fZ2S14hhkEAFGWZiGHndquPb M5eYMxLWyIUlscQW6hbDne7pz9BhVwQgI18O4Cifa487pcQQhi3gyx6nG0L. 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Playing Y2K12 was one of my life's peak experiences thus far... thanks agai= n to Loopmaster Rick, and to Jule Potter for showing up to watch, and to an= ybody who played and anybody who had anything to do with this remarkable ev= ent. Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Sun, 10/21/12, Todd Elliott wrote: From: Todd Elliott Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, October 21, 2012, 10:46 PM Your set was really neat!=A0 There was a lot of musical diversity on display during the parts of the fes= tival I saw; I really enjoyed playing there as well.=A0 T =0AOn Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrot= e: =0AI met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill = Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weeke= nd I could stay in there and listen for so long. =0A --=20 http://toaster.bandcamp.com =0A=0A ---215069597-2093191423-1351002753=:50395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What K-man said...

Playing Y2K12 was o= ne of my life's peak experiences thus far... thanks again to Loopmaster Ric= k, and to Jule Potter for showing up to watch, and to anybody who played an= d anybody who had anything to do with this remarkable event.

Tim = Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timm= ungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/ti= mmungenast

--- On Sun, 10/21/12, Todd Elliott <toddb= ert@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Todd= Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play = at Y2K12
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, Octobe= r 21, 2012, 10:46 PM

Your set was really ne= at! 

There was a lot of musical diversity on displa= y during the parts of the festival I saw; I really enjoyed playing there as= well. 

T

=0AOn Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
=0A

I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to s= ee Rick and Bill Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have bee= n there all weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long.

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---215069597-2093191423-1351002753=:50395-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 14:58:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ABBE183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=hN17Y+A0Jj2doCwQoLnlwQ+yjq35dLffS3JhBH5bJ5U=; b=As23VsJYEe04W2YCVaD8D/imZORE2FeAXt+VlsOHqBbkP/iHROfyYff+YftRf+s5bm 0Ns1k4sWwFcaf0Z+GZ+ilHSJid+qGilR8HDD4iOI1KuuOCuYbHfYNd8g9QqfYKwKT0zf Ps84UM1RVAasnBoUwCFRU6H6tekds+0PK3jkNMeMf1k6aWKkJ2ClxLSqR+7iCPwFtdmQ rS4Ftjgih8v5OpxzrvyfRhXfLZfCDWMdOAIx/pHDjIikjcWE/DCIxY+XvlwPFFqQAj/q qiH6gde8E+9L3oHJru05OKuJfrKy/0Oz6H917OHuTELJp7zdVCmQpkX3z+fIb/AQj5YN CREA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <69F724A6-8557-486E-AE57-EE53D12CDCF1@gmail.com> References: <583CD66E-4972-46C0-8201-4B7798809EA4@googlemail.com> <69F724A6-8557-486E-AE57-EE53D12CDCF1@gmail.com> From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:57:58 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hOawAWaKJL8gR9bBkHmHxs8PvZk Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius/ableton -- stereo bounce output question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ef02834bac1504ccbb331e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:58:20 +0000 (UTC) --001636ef02834bac1504ccbb331e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks so much guys! is there any substantial difference between setting the "audio in" to "master" vs. "resampling"? -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > You can also use 'resampling' as the input. That will also capture > everything. > > Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > > create a new audio track. set "audio in" to "master" and "audio to" to > "sends only" > > > > this should capture everything that is going to the master output > > > > > > --001636ef02834bac1504ccbb331e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks so much guys! is there any substantial difference between setting th= e "audio in" to "master" vs. "resampling"?

--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin
Web: http://Ljova.comListen: http://ww= w.Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljo= va
Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom


On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Todd Re= ynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
You can also use 'resampling' as the input. That will also capture = everything.

Or call me at 917.576.6= 166 (or text)

On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

> create a new audio track. set "audio in" to "master&quo= t; and "audio to" to "sends only"
>
> this should capture everything that is going to the master output
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--001636ef02834bac1504ccbb331e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 15:11:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 450CB18345D; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #113868007 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/6TAxJJi36rHfxkLKL97n0GFXrohNEQ2BFQKPg07 ZthX6xadBWOCPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: mobius/ableton -- stereo bounce output question From: Christoph Lehmann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:11:01 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2D6FBA39-7151-4288-84D1-89D553BF6243@gmx.de> References: <583CD66E-4972-46C0-8201-4B7798809EA4@googlemail.com> <69F724A6-8557-486E-AE57-EE53D12CDCF1@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Not really. But be sure to mute the new audiotrack ! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 15:34:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89BDF183455; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=vYWlkOb4+IqACSedpuZyrqJCu0rWnOWoNQcnb7NIII4=; b=BXpuVH2gMsH/RWG+lgddZVCbci59bK5Cd3n0diBCBYDFFX6u+iHsXYi8KV0W8cBY9o sDHO+DKU1qIX1S9m/SogVCJ6FaUnQGbiQwAZQNNQeknwCgyGdIVrb88sIjMI6uKfaAhc N26jebruZU2X6fr5fMs+p0/i3d3zZ0JYpt5fvuCTXIPn03i3pDBoTn343bjb4Lb8T14b fA2uh955+7gObm5KA69FgU1ogQHz+/0oulqheN4bR5SYx0Gv1DfYuEnM/5moi11aO53h MRUZagky21FarkJCaEtqtofGHos9gXCnuIrg6qi6zy+Mwf567929+SI9gcVdcnC4YMbO ZReQ== Subject: Re: mobius/ableton -- stereo bounce output question References: <583CD66E-4972-46C0-8201-4B7798809EA4@googlemail.com> <69F724A6-8557-486E-AE57-EE53D12CDCF1@gmail.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-AC37B956-8908-4EB9-A0A4-7896E807517C X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9686096D-7598-4236-8ED8-B5EBBA0B6437@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:33:57 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:34:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-AC37B956-8908-4EB9-A0A4-7896E807517C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resampling automatically mutes the track and records at a lower level (chang= eable afterward) protecting you from clipping.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Oct 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" wrote:= > thanks so much guys! is there any substantial difference between setting t= he "audio in" to "master" vs. "resampling"? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin >=20 > Web: http://Ljova.com > Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos > Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos > IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova > Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Todd Reynolds wrote:= > You can also use 'resampling' as the input. That will also capture everyth= ing. >=20 > Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) >=20 > On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Simeon Harris = wrote: >=20 > > create a new audio track. set "audio in" to "master" and "audio to" to "= sends only" > > > > this should capture everything that is going to the master output > > > > >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-AC37B956-8908-4EB9-A0A4-7896E807517C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Resampling automatically mutes the track and records at a lower level (changeable afterward) protecting you from clipping. 

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

On Oct 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:

thanks so much guys! is there any substantial difference between setting the "audio in" to "master" vs. "resampling"?


--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com
Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Todd Reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
You can also use 'resampling' as the input. That will also capture everything.

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

> create a new audio track. set "audio in" to "master" and "audio to" to "sends only"
>
> this should capture everything that is going to the master output
>
>


--Apple-Mail-AC37B956-8908-4EB9-A0A4-7896E807517C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 15:36:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D185518345A; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=rLwluVPaAHfGybvjgWnCbkYijnZDz4EdS7ztgcxE+fc=; b=Xe9ObMyucYN1IVR4UuXPC6F/3HU8UE0Fp6ExHogvkaJvEKdu610y6nHg8PLTZ3W80b U/3dehT900ERJ02oZRkED02LWzmePTWXJkVaGuCpZzYk158D5YGymaVxF8p/cPmhe4G+ 9BpRvujHoNoITU6dcbJIimX6cTLobmIyBtchoUit83kttPk0ihXvI2gyGjVLwFZ2laJ6 ujJTig+I97X9TTFdbqMThm31ybSi/f+WIjnLMsjYDCvV0ZD3UoORz5W+wmDrwR7p8P8s LaBanyjnreYzyutKZjNmqSRm8ypBi878G927j7gK6ULmxgRuOL7tNePPW8GOJouIwnsy M7XQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9686096D-7598-4236-8ED8-B5EBBA0B6437@gmail.com> References: <583CD66E-4972-46C0-8201-4B7798809EA4@googlemail.com> <69F724A6-8557-486E-AE57-EE53D12CDCF1@gmail.com> <9686096D-7598-4236-8ED8-B5EBBA0B6437@gmail.com> From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:36:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _0wPX1khEqd3NPDKI4agrzB3N5E Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius/ableton -- stereo bounce output question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c093849fdbe04ccbbbc5e Resent-Message-ID: <-x6yeD.A.i_D.FmrhQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:36:37 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c093849fdbe04ccbbbc5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 cheers - thanks so much, all! -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > Resampling automatically mutes the track and records at a lower level > (changeable afterward) protecting you from clipping. > > > Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" > wrote: > > thanks so much guys! is there any substantial difference between setting > the "audio in" to "master" vs. "resampling"? > > > -- > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin > > Web: http://Ljova.com > Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos > Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos > IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova > Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > >> You can also use 'resampling' as the input. That will also capture >> everything. >> >> Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) >> >> On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> >> > create a new audio track. set "audio in" to "master" and "audio to" to >> "sends only" >> > >> > this should capture everything that is going to the master output >> > >> > >> >> > --f46d043c093849fdbe04ccbbbc5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cheers - thanks so much, all!
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Lev 'Ljova' Z= hurbin

Web: http://Lj= ova.com
Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.c= om/videos
IMDb: h= ttp://imdb.me/ljova
Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom


On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Todd R= eynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
Resampling automatically mutes the track and = records at a lower level (changeable afterward) protecting you from clippin= g.=A0


Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

On Oct 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, "L= ev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:

thanks so much guys! is there any substantial difference between setti= ng the "audio in" to "master" vs. "resampling"= ;?


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Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin<= br>
Web: http://Ljova.comListen: http://ww= w.Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljo= va
Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom


On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Todd Re= ynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
You can also use 'resampling' as the input. That will also capture = everything.

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text)

On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>= ; wrote:

> create a new audio track. set "audio in" to "master&quo= t; and "audio to" to "sends only"
>
> this should capture everything that is going to the master output
>
>



--f46d043c093849fdbe04ccbbbc5e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 18:35:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A13918345D; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MCTo7wNGz2UZWRtR5sTJx2uuYb/eros1su2Nvj5T9Vc=; b=SBbiGnDWs9K38vITDLahwwzpTnAD6Qfe1YsnfSSi6Zm2KGP4gvljfaA23Ko0PmCYb/ UCoj8mNf6AZrUUnjxMHWM74XVUchx5RUtZL56AtuPLDHMcCBm8LOLo9YS9DJdG0v6/Nx W+iLwnDd4InvzS03DP3l36rZoVofi0cjEeTRr2dnop6WfmXse2j6mk9O3ZyoBq7vOCZ1 9fAgQ8u5Y9bnJzNYQhHcX5cctPKTMURz6ciIosZtQ48DdtA0yTThiZa+D05sh/eTcmf8 Adh6onxMHxG2miz3MQFbbXecbRbLD2X2/Qem47RaQBNOkOznWtsLqgYIA4z9mJAr/0S0 6W/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:35:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d626573056cc04ccbe3bed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:35:16 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d626573056cc04ccbe3bed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Sim, I already have my output tracks linked to pluggins, not panning but I do have delays/reverbs and phasers. Per, I never tried secondary feedback, I have 3 free faders too so that should be great. Is there any way to make it so that the secondary feedback knob of each track is affected by only one fader dependending on the track that I have selected? For example, say I use fader 9 to decrease secondary feedback for track 1 by having the track selected, then I switch to track 2 and change the feedback level for that one using the same fader,but without affecting track 1. Is there a way to set that up? On Oct 23, 2012 3:55 AM, "Simeon Harris" wrote: > if you're using Mobius, then you have a couple of options > > if you have all 8 Mobius tracks coming out separately, then you can add > some plugins to those tracks for sound manipulation, like delay, reverb, > pitch shifting, modulation, pan, randomisation etc etc. if you sync > Reaper's clock to Mobius, then any time based plugins will be in sync > > you can also use some of the features built into Mobius, like shuffle, > reverse, rate shift and various scripting tricks to fool around with the > audio once it's recorded, or as you record it > > sim > > On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:49, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > Hello, I've been working with a rather basic looping technique which is to > just record each instrument to its own track and control track volume > independently with the faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation > techniques can I add to my looping to make it more interesting? I use FL > Studio hosting mobius as a VST so Im kind of limited as far as syncing > options. > > > --0016e6d626573056cc04ccbe3bed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Sim, I already have my output tracks linked to pluggins, not panning= but I do have delays/reverbs and phasers. Per, I never tried secondary fee= dback, I have 3 free faders too so that should be great. Is there any way t= o make it so that the secondary feedback knob of each track is affected by = only one fader dependending on the track that I have selected? For example,= say I use fader 9 to decrease secondary feedback for track 1 by having the= track selected, then I switch to track 2 and change the feedback level for= that one using the same fader,but without affecting track 1. Is there a wa= y to set that up?

On Oct 23, 2012 3:55 AM, "Simeon Harris&quo= t; <simeonharris40@goog= lemail.com> wrote:
if you're using Mobius, then y= ou have a couple of options

if you have all 8 Mobi= us tracks coming out separately, then you can add some plugins to those tra= cks for sound manipulation, like delay, reverb, pitch shifting, modulation,= pan, randomisation etc etc. if you sync Reaper's clock to Mobius, then= any time based plugins will be in sync

you can also use some of the features built into Mobius= , like shuffle, reverse, rate shift and various scripting tricks to fool ar= ound with the audio once it's recorded, or as you record it

sim

On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:49, kay'lon= rushing wrote:

Hello, I've been = working with a rather basic looping technique which is to just record each = instrument to its own track and control track volume independently with the= faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation techniques can I add to my l= ooping to make it more interesting? I use FL Studio hosting mobius as a VST= so Im kind of limited as far as syncing options.


--0016e6d626573056cc04ccbe3bed-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 18:38:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 592F7183463; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EiK0tYx5moDoL23Dy9tSbwCDaRbWheZIPsz2KHO4ph8=; b=PL4jM4v3+aGiooUFIGAS/zx2Hpmdt6CFKhkztUdwMVpCq2fpWxQCpEqVIerhjbNqpT az3p2ql7YWU0EGgMvraXoJ5klY+k1XSvCGVO/TZdcGN0gVmF0IJgw9lydZvzFfaFACU3 vsT65nBoM3mvkY5z18P73lHas/eQMxtu2AG0KcYTI/Cfkia8PJU8/pr9RTOpR2oB4hW2 8xPWhSGxo11OAAq6n/2PFFJ8yEh7YSTrS0iDVdUSA6npketgYTJXszbmi+Lr2FIAkOg8 pGp0fUU2OBOAfXTQbDHBh7HslRJEUokTG3WXp59soHw9UAJUOw9/MiNTXqtG+2XPcCBX wtHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:38:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444039e71a7a904ccbe48d0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:38:59 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0444039e71a7a904ccbe48d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And Sim, what kind of plugins do pitch shifting? Any freeware ones? I dont use Reaper so I dont know about the synchronization features. On Oct 23, 2012 3:55 AM, "Simeon Harris" wrote: > if you're using Mobius, then you have a couple of options > > if you have all 8 Mobius tracks coming out separately, then you can add > some plugins to those tracks for sound manipulation, like delay, reverb, > pitch shifting, modulation, pan, randomisation etc etc. if you sync > Reaper's clock to Mobius, then any time based plugins will be in sync > > you can also use some of the features built into Mobius, like shuffle, > reverse, rate shift and various scripting tricks to fool around with the > audio once it's recorded, or as you record it > > sim > > On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:49, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > Hello, I've been working with a rather basic looping technique which is to > just record each instrument to its own track and control track volume > independently with the faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation > techniques can I add to my looping to make it more interesting? I use FL > Studio hosting mobius as a VST so Im kind of limited as far as syncing > options. > > > --f46d0444039e71a7a904ccbe48d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

And Sim, what kind of plugins do pitch shifting? Any freeware ones? I do= nt use Reaper so I dont know about=A0 the synchronization features.

On Oct 23, 2012 3:55 AM, "Simeon Harris&quo= t; <simeonharris40@goog= lemail.com> wrote:
if you're using Mobius, then y= ou have a couple of options

if you have all 8 Mobi= us tracks coming out separately, then you can add some plugins to those tra= cks for sound manipulation, like delay, reverb, pitch shifting, modulation,= pan, randomisation etc etc. if you sync Reaper's clock to Mobius, then= any time based plugins will be in sync

you can also use some of the features built into Mobius= , like shuffle, reverse, rate shift and various scripting tricks to fool ar= ound with the audio once it's recorded, or as you record it

sim

On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:49, kay'lon= rushing wrote:

Hello, I've been = working with a rather basic looping technique which is to just record each = instrument to its own track and control track volume independently with the= faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation techniques can I add to my l= ooping to make it more interesting? I use FL Studio hosting mobius as a VST= so Im kind of limited as far as syncing options.


--f46d0444039e71a7a904ccbe48d0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 18:48:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 993F5183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zLGPaDcZxcAwWjTW5jqXTpdmrr6qT5hj3V6kE42sAZQ=; b=Z1TcGa5N6fWJKNgGbyz16UYxHRKLlcEJG9ry/zhjKUKfuJd03M977wS40K+aHbu3K1 EewmjafeZk7ecVwS2H+zXtKLhJ7AxAXSMLKhjCe8U1JOiT/TFE0vKgX1/LJ7eGmBqNbc kTNEI0gUp4lpiLeBQ3SgWwMw7N0MSZv2esq774mBI0fMZmeOo0c4eToMaxkTp4EscDlR Ifo97ddCeiv3ei1xh9rO2SbpXojRaHZfelKeidqZw9S8drf5FY59sTY4/Mw4EQQTntAF 805rzq7aLInZCPhIdgeawQX48vQDeQvEVwxZtfpyXE3x24hPj0TOHZOT7ZnErl1Ajx9W 4Zzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:48:57 +0000 (UTC) You might want to read through the death of the loop thread from a couple years ago. Lots of good stuff in there: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/201003/msg00084.html Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 20:26:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AE2A183464; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=gVVWPeP56j5a5zuo/QOH6a6sXcAvp6pTKTQ1suaHJRE=; b=Oz1yavMUzLWyxxH/CGVZpyVUJEGSRygWVlqq/YDwxzIxTCy0ZA3vRWrhkg/ZsrJWFM w7nNMVkktPLzSk/GmAUUHmkNuuAHUGtXUkk+TE7m5fVyxOsMkXVGihAPwsc+44IXEtaD 4GgP9ZObUdRQ+6ZV8PPRDbF2B0Ddnsca5kiqvNa93jh4rt3BYHWbvfiJxFWQz5pn9BAr vpvDKOyaDEnl+gvYWfwgVLLh7PnRI78Z8cCGmU+ZoqCbWOBQutvi9/nBH9SVN9Thubq9 zb5hz28Cp6O0Wv6ENlnvN+ncVtOVyJI8bPtbpZQIp5VUFO/aHwPntJ9DUgSaE8MTmwzN CCXg== Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation References: From: Theweg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-FADB1E68-40E6-4F74-9FEF-0473016ABC2F X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A403) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:26:32 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:26:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-FADB1E68-40E6-4F74-9FEF-0473016ABC2F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very nice work! Sent from my iPad On Oct 20, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Alisa Apreleva wrote: > Hello everyone,=20 >=20 > Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=E2=80=99v= e just recently joined this list, so I=E2=80=99d like to introduce myself. >=20 > My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper.= You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at http://www.youtube.com= /user/Apreleva >=20 > And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, cons= ider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012,= 8 pm. =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Have a happy weekend! > Alisa Apreleva --Apple-Mail-FADB1E68-40E6-4F74-9FEF-0473016ABC2F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very nice work!


Sent= from my iPad

On Oct 20, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Alisa Apreleva <= apreleva@gmail.com> wrote:
<= br>
Introduction and invitation Hello everyone,

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=E2=80=99ve j= ust recently joined this list, so I=E2=80=99d like to introduce myself.

My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. Y= ou are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at = http://www.youtube.com/u= ser/Apreleva

And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, consid= er joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012, 8= pm.  



Have a happy weekend!
Alisa Apreleva
= --Apple-Mail-FADB1E68-40E6-4F74-9FEF-0473016ABC2F-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 20:43:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B1EA18345D; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RPTQSFTuye3rVBLx6S0YVU8JWv+fDqvkg1fDajjZ1BI=; b=NdLnRr6CpHXnsXWKEysLtFIWkmcPJv7qgBuuTKF0+CSnoFbkkHJJO65u5rLmWDijLM U2S3rGkiMJ9oroegWhHCYDWk18K+kRGo+898ROIXWy3BrQxWMONyvBkXmcVr/YkuabrN igrg+qI2Okhl/TiTgrZfrlr9JgE296HxIQ/S5gvdHWf1ppiOj744Hehke8wuHO0lQUsc 4uoWJSCXRwNNrUCShZmdm0v9wdIWNzvHoEokPB2he0ZjyPctwuy3ES5W6N6i1Og25j7n ulNSZOV/jFWZyW39c0D3dQPqyYCyueDTDA5UmeQzSA7E9SzbmD/lS9QVEEpHu83Ycaq9 BajQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:43:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1_4ZfC.A.gdH.WFwhQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Seconded, Kevin On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Theweg wrote: > Very nice work! > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 20, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Alisa Apreleva wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I=92ve jus= t > recently joined this list, so I=92d like to introduce myself. > > My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper= . > You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at > http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva > > And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, > consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th= , > 2012, 8 pm. > > > > Have a happy weekend! > Alisa Apreleva --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 20:53:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6E52183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:53:15 UTC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1597596003==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121023204513.21271.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:45:14 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1597596003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm=20glad=20that=20one=20new=20person=20came=20on=20here=20since=20I=20did= =20in=20February! Tyler=20Z On=20Tue,=2023=20Oct=202012=2013:43:01=20-0700,=20Kevin=20Cheli-Colando=20w= rote: >Seconded, > >Kevin > >On=20Tue,=20Oct=2023,=202012=20at=201:26=20PM,=20Theweg=20=20wrote: >>Very=20nice=20work! >> >> >>Sent=20from=20my=20iPad >> >>On=20Oct=2020,=202012,=20at=203:47=20PM,=20Alisa=20Apreleva=20=20wrote: >> >>Hello=20everyone, >> >>Thank=20you=20all=20for=20your=20wonderful=20insights=20on=20looping=20an= d=20more.=20Ive=20just >>recently=20joined=20this=20list,=20so=20Id=20like=20to=20introduce=20myse= lf. >> >>My=20name=20is=20Alisa=20Apreleva,=20I=20am=20a=20Russian=20singer-cellis= t-(and-now)-looper. >>You=20are=20welcome=20to=20watch=20some=20snippets=20of=20my=20work=20at >>http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva >> >>And=20if=20you=20are=20in=20a=20greater=20Boston=20area=20(Massachusetts,= =20USA),=20please, >>consider=20joining=20me=20for=20a=20show=20at=20Outpost=20(Cambridge,=20M= A)=20on=20October=2027th, >>2012,=208=20pm. >> >> >> >>Have=20a=20happy=20weekend! >>Alisa=20Apreleva > > > >--=20 >Till=20now=20you=20seriously=20considered=20yourself=20to=20be=20the=20bod= y=20and=20to=20have=20a >form.=20That=20is=20the=20primal=20ignorance=20which=20is=20the=20root=20c= ause=20of=20all=20trouble. > >-=20Ramana=20Maharshi=20(1879-1950) > >Sound=20and=20Vision:=20=20http://www.minds-eye.org >Video=20http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --===============1597596003==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 21:02:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBAB1183460; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YuDOcYy4IzOkslA01FOEIOExGq0FsHnAmDaX+pWVtEQ=; b=AvFeE9xBgf6T1Q0C9JHMPsN8msbEuvYAWQ6iIycCtBKHselg/ziTyPkxX17Feqs1YX KZCrbyjwfbpNC7jg5aW9ODiJNzKX3p1+qFobF1SgJ2NhliIdvYQpq6kLB0NM6iRqnU/f 4Hq0d6enGeehtYU1kIQr3ac1qM7zARGY6XCb/223GqFQdRIDHiPGEViszvPjyk82k5su 3qqtOj4Mo5hQUtgoBAWnTa+/jrYcEpY9jx07gh+f0YU7NXH3h6cDS2GSownAbC67Kb/Q so06OBlZKnLE4LaArQwKLPoiyPi6JK26qrzxVyTGIHwDjd/6DIHgfiioU1joptGf8eYO 85gg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121023204513.21271.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> References: <20121023204513.21271.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:02:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9d7181a35af5f04ccc0490c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:02:22 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9d7181a35af5f04ccc0490c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm new as well. I signed up once I realized the mailing list existed, which was some time *after* I discovered loopfest (and got a slot to play during it)-- which is a little backward... but it works. Hi, I'm Todd. :-) T On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Tyler wrote: > I'm glad that one new person came on here since I did in February! > Tyler Z > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:43:01 -0700, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > > >Seconded, > > > >Kevin > > > >On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Theweg wrote: > >>Very nice work! > >> > >> > >>Sent from my iPad > >> > >>On Oct 20, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Alisa Apreleva wrote: > >> > >>Hello everyone, > >> > >>Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. Ive just > >>recently joined this list, so Id like to introduce myself. > >> > >>My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian > singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. > >>You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at > >>http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva > >> > >>And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, > >>consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October > 27th, > >>2012, 8 pm. > >> > >> > >> > >>Have a happy weekend! > >>Alisa Apreleva > > > > > > > >-- > >Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > >form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > > >- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > >Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > >Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --14dae9d7181a35af5f04ccc0490c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm new as well. I signed up once I realized the mailing list existed, = which was some time *after* I discovered loopfest (and got a slot to play d= uring it)-- which is a little backward... but it works.=A0

Hi, I'm Todd. :-)

T

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.= net> wrote:
I'm glad that one new person came on her= e since I did in February!
Tyler Z
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:43:01 -0700, Kevin Cheli-Colando w= rote:


>Seconded,
>
>Kevin
>
>On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Theweg <theweg@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Very nice work!
>>
>>
>>Sent from my iPad
>>
>>On Oct 20, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Alisa Apreleva <apreleva@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more= . Ive just
>>recently joined this list, so Id like to introduce myself.
>>
>>My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-= looper.
>>You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at
>>= http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva
>>
>>And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), pleas= e,
>>consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on Octobe= r 27th,
>>2012, 8 pm.
>>
>>
>>
>>Have a happy weekend!
>>Alisa Apreleva
>
>
>
>--
>Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a=
>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troub= le.
>
>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
>Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos



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--14dae9d7181a35af5f04ccc0490c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 21:17:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C4FB183463; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :thread-index:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=XiU6x4AifR35MiARDKJi9mZGxcwF12u+dCZBwJ13jR4=; b=SQGCOIfnr4ix+R7vV8Z9TrgYggYnHUcK87rkNbSH2nOQ5hYgybSWdPxzcFY/VQct8o eHhRRCVD4A30ww3LLMxR6oeVygAlcxuSnxcUm47hXUeXgbmWOKEd4kp2lYDXGPebOd0R +vOyjJQxoUGM1oCUK3QlrOqCj5PVcZ73w4zmO4IZkw+Dai7xK9KS4EQq35mMCTG/zR6S vpEj4zE/evazlwwSdYzAdsxBYDDj5U0irpIN+iNquX5a86B8w03Wx8XjnoBD1VoEdAXI IN3XJWOMtznGG+30p0GuLPv6gQ74w1CHhEkZ2s49Mk3wEALpy9T+qAV14RzFI73n6+Cz UVxA== User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.32.0.111121 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:17:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: Alisa Apreleva To: LD Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 Thread-Index: Ac2xY7+4E9eYpx7jW0yXzGH9f4Tinw== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3433857436_8925808" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:17:18 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3433857436_8925808 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Wow, that=B9s amazing. Starts in between Arvo Part and Soviet =B3cosmic=B2 music, and moves beyond. )) I wish I could experience it live. Gongrats, Kaylon! Alisa=20 On 10/22/12 4:38 PM, "Todd Elliott" wrote: > Since I am watching it now, I'll go ahead and post the link on Kaylon's > behalf: >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata >=20 > T >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alisa Apreleva wrot= e: >> Kaylon, >>=20 >> Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud? >>=20 >> Alisa >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" > > wrote: >>=20 >>> Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that means. >>>=20 >>> On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" >> > wrote: >>>> Kaylon,=A0 >>>>=20 >>>> It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I >>>> mentioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, yo= ur >>>> dynamics and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music i= n my >>>> head, and that says a lot! >>>>=20 >>>> The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance. >>>>=20 >>>> Thank you... >>>>=20 >>>> Laurie >>>> On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bi= ll >>>>> Walker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all >>>>> weekend I could stay in there and listen for so long. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 >=20 --B_3433857436_8925808 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 Wow, that’s amazing. Starts in between Arvo Part and Soviet “c= osmic” music, and moves beyond. )) I wish I could experience it live. = Gongrats, Kaylon!

Alisa





On 10/22/12 4:38 PM, "Todd Elliott" <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Since I am watching it now, I'll go ahead and po= st the link on Kaylon's behalf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9hIAPqKrr1U&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata=

T


On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alisa Apreleva <apreleva@gmail.com> wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Kaylon,

Is there any way to hear you play? Youtube? Soundcloud?

Alisa



On 10/22/12 7:53 AM, "kay'lon rushing" <k3zz21@gmail.com <http://k3zz2= 1@gmail.com> > wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Thank Laurie!!! You have no idea how much that m= eans.

On Oct 22, 2012 4:20 AM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net <http:/= /voicesound@att.net> > wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Kaylon,=A0

It was such a wonderful experience to meet you and hear you play. As I ment= ioned, your music painted pictures, your textures were amazing, your dynamic= s and sensitivity were incredible. I can still hear the music in my head, an= d that says a lot!

The fact that you were personally cool only added to the brilliance.

Thank you...

Laurie
On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>
I met some great artists and it felt almost unreal to see Rick and Bill Wal= ker in person and talk to them. I wish I could have been there all weekend I= could stay in there and listen for so long.
=
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--B_3433857436_8925808-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 21:51:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D842C183455; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mH9D4iroi39DTm7c9NJzrPp7rGDGA5So1WImRcMdgMDdgbsIYO4vrJJcsRzziw4+; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:51:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-861093416==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79095a42922751aaccfe039b6c188081f4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:51:22 +0000 (UTC) --============_-861093416==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Welcome to the Mailing List, Alisa! I love the piece you did with the quartet especially.. keep it up! Chuck Zwicky >Hello everyone, > >Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I've >just recently joined this list, so I'd like to introduce myself. > >My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian >singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. You are welcome to watch some >snippets of my work at >http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva > >And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), >please, consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on >October 27th, 2012, 8 pm. > > > >Have a happy weekend! >Alisa Apreleva -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-861093416==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Introduction and invitation
Welcome to the Mailing List, Alisa!

I love the piece you did with the quartet especially.. keep it up!

Chuck Zwicky

Hello everyone,

Thank you all for your wonderful insights on looping and more. I've just recently joined this list, so I'd like to introduce myself.

My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva

And if you are in a greater Boston area (Massachusetts, USA), please, consider joining me for a show at Outpost (Cambridge, MA) on October 27th, 2012, 8 pm.  



Have a happy weekend!
Alisa Apreleva

--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-861093416==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 22:05:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20F6D183461; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=F20T66p+xJ1hrjYLxPBiPFajlnDe4pAg2t054hlallw=; b=pOOw+wrnzA5f/bMq23LxMgLwm+lflQ17hZdSpu7WPhbStz5zJXHTk7v/DG7zfr9C2D Op8AIbWZlSssHtkYnNtqDiJkjSM2VN9lnU5U/nDuUvMP8d0cGCI4UWLNfAHJHNiEHPjm ZGC693IbGpOPYdTReHj27W1JcwmKMdbLas9xtLXFfCrhinMd3A5aBQqZmUsQn8WRcYDV JJn3HrDw/lhFW5g+HMfBPIxkvEN35KzrjBTODh0pIDHiGkp0wpx9L1LSgGUTwydVGCFd Jl+daaxyIuDCJDuwr/OVUKgZY49py56RhxMSBx9HuwbTzDL6XptpkksmuPUq6ueoSKic bFSA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:05:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:05:15 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > Is there any way to make it so that the secondary feedback knob of each > track is affected by only one fader dependending on the track that I have > selected? Yes. > For example, say I use fader 9 to decrease secondary feedback for > track 1 by having the track selected, then I switch to track 2 and change > the feedback level for that one using the same fader,but without affecting > track 1. Is there a way to set that up? Yes. To do that you just assign the MIDI from your fader 9 to "Control: Secondary Feedback", in Mobius MIDI Bindings window. You may also set up a default level for Secondary Feedback, as you do with all other default parameters in the "Configuration / Track Setup" window. I like to use 64 as my default because that makes a little pocket in earlier layer under the new audio I layer with Sustain Substitute. If you want to do glitchy stuff you may use "Secondary Feedback = 0" and if you want a smoother mix you may go "Secondary Feedback = 103". Value 127 is full and equals Overdub. Oh, and then you can run a script that adds every second 32d note by Sustain Substitute for the hole loop (or just a cycle) and then you can "live mix" the Secondary Feedback level while the script is running (and you play something that will be applied through that "stacatto grid". Just one example. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 23:38:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDD7B183463; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 10404 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:38:32 UTC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1597596003==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121023233835.21482.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:38:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1597596003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The=20only=20looping-related=20thing=20I=20discovered=20before=20I=20signed= =20up=20for=20Looper's=20Delight=20was=20looping=20itself.=20 I=20didn't=20even=20know=20live=20looping=20existed=20(actually,=20I=20hear= d=20a=20short=20Amazon-preview=20music=20 sample=20of=20Tim=20Exile=20doing=20it=20before=20I=20heard=20about=20the= =20list).=20But=20I=20had=20zero=20plans=20of=20doing=20live=20 looping=20when=20I=20signed=20=20up=20here.=20I=20signed=20up=20because=20l= ooping=20(prerecorded,=20that=20is)=20is=20something=20I=20 frequently=20use;=20song=20remixes,=20making=20my=20voice=20echo=20on=20a= =20recording,=20etc.,=20I=20never=20thought=20about=20 live=20looping,=20until=20I=20started=20receiving=20posts.=20In=20other=20w= ords,=20if=20it=20weren't=20for=20the=20guys=20that=20post=20here,=20 most=20of=20the=20traffic=20on=20the=20list=20from=20me=20would=20be=20spen= t=20talking=20about=20Audacity,=20Goldwave,=20 Fruityloops,=20and=20other=20generic=20editing=20software.=20And=20it=20sti= ll=20is;=20I=20just=20throw=20in=20a=20few=20Terry=20 Riley-related=20or=20Per=20Boysen-related=20comments,=20such=20as=20"Boysen= 's=20Science=20and=20Technology=20 Music=20is=20one=20of=20the=20best=20albums=20I=20ever=20heard=20in=20my=20= life,=20and=20so=20is=20Terry=20Riley's=20Rainbow=20in=20 Curved=20Air!"=20I=20sometimes=20talk=20about=20Gibson=20Echoplexes,=20Boss= =20RC=2050=20and=20such,=20but=20I=20 don't=20own=20any.=20I=20joined=20here=20because=20I=20consider=20repeated= =20samples=20an=20essential=20part=20of=20much=20 electronic=20music=20and=20remixes.=20Any=20electronic=20artist=20who=20loo= ps=20is=20invited=20here.=20Some=20 electronic=20musicians=20(like=20me=20in=20early=202004)=20just=20set=20the= ir=20electronic=20keyboard=20to=20a=20generic=20 "bleep,=20bleep"=20sound,=20and=20play=20it=20like=20a=20normal=20piano.=20= That=20is=20the=20only=20example=20of=20non-looping=20 electronic=20music=20I=20can=20think=20of.=20Now,=20I=20put=20a=20techno=20= beat=20on=20my=20keyboard,=20and=20play=20along=20 with=20that;=20I=20consider=20that=20looping.=20It=20might=20not=20be=20all= owed=20by=20the=20y2k=20looping=20fest,=20but=20y2k=20isn't=20 the=20only=20one=20in=20the=20world.=20My=20looper=20friend=20and=20I=20do= =20all=20our=20looping=20prerecorded;=20so=20I=20recorded=20the=20 sound=20of=20a=20crowd;=20I'll=20loop=20it=20in=20studio!=20So=20she=20reco= rded=20the=20sound=20of=20a=20siren=20at=20camp;=20she=20goes=20 home,=20loops=20it,=20and=20then=20incorporates=20it=20into=20the=20song.= =20We=20still=20take=20pride=20in=20the=20fact=20that=20it=20is=20a=20 repeated=20sample;=20a=20loop!=20I=20mean,=20I=20love=20live=20looping=20as= =20much=20as=20any=20of=20you!=20Otherwise=20I'd=20 be=20sick=20of=20the=20links=20people=20post;=20I=20think=20it's=20fascinat= ing=20that=20people=20can=20loop=20live!=20Wow!=20And=20Riley=20was=20doing= =20 that=20in=20the=2060s?=20What=20what=20what?=20I=20practice=20live=20loopin= g=20with=20some=20Javascript-based=20computer=20 software=20I=20developed,=20but=20I'm=20not=20ready=20for=20a=20festival=20= yet.=20I=20need=20to=20combine=20the=20multitracker=20and=20the=20 looper=20with=20the=20synchronizer=20buttons,=20which=20is=20going=20to=20t= ake=20some=20work. Tyler=20Z On=20Tue,=2023=20Oct=202012=2014:02:20=20-0700,=20Todd=20Elliott=20wrote: >I'm=20new=20as=20well.=20I=20signed=20up=20once=20I=20realized=20the=20mai= ling=20list=20existed,=20which=20 >was=20some=20time=20*after*=20I=20discovered=20loopfest=20(and=20got=20a= =20slot=20to=20play=20during=20 >it)--=20which=20is=20a=20little=20backward...=20but=20it=20works. >Hi,=20I'm=20Todd.=20:-) >T >On=20Tue,=20Oct=2023,=202012=20at=201:45=20PM,=20Tyler=20=20wrote: >I'm=20glad=20that=20one=20new=20person=20came=20on=20here=20since=20I=20di= d=20in=20February! >Tyler=20Z >On=20Tue,=2023=20Oct=202012=2013:43:01=20-0700,=20Kevin=20Cheli-Colando=20= wrote: >>Seconded, >>Kevin >>On=20Tue,=20Oct=2023,=202012=20at=201:26=20PM,=20Theweg=20=20wrote: >>>Very=20nice=20work! >>>Sent=20from=20my=20iPad >>>On=20Oct=2020,=202012,=20at=203:47=20PM,=20Alisa=20Apreleva=20=20wrote: >>>Hello=20everyone, >>>Thank=20you=20all=20for=20your=20wonderful=20insights=20on=20looping=20a= nd=20more.=20Ive=20just >>>recently=20joined=20this=20list,=20so=20Id=20like=20to=20introduce=20mys= elf. >>>My=20name=20is=20Alisa=20Apreleva,=20I=20am=20a=20Russian=20singer-celli= st-(and-now)-looper. >>>You=20are=20welcome=20to=20watch=20some=20snippets=20of=20my=20work=20at >>>http://www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva >>>And=20if=20you=20are=20in=20a=20greater=20Boston=20area=20(Massachusetts= ,=20USA),=20please, >>>consider=20joining=20me=20for=20a=20show=20at=20Outpost=20(Cambridge,=20= MA)=20on=20October=2027th, >>>2012,=208=20pm. >>>Have=20a=20happy=20weekend! >>>Alisa=20Apreleva >>-- >>Till=20now=20you=20seriously=20considered=20yourself=20to=20be=20the=20bo= dy=20and=20to=20have=20a >>form.=20That=20is=20the=20primal=20ignorance=20which=20is=20the=20root=20= cause=20of=20all=20trouble. >>-=20Ramana=20Maharshi=20(1879-1950) >>Sound=20and=20Vision:=20http://www.minds-eye.org >>Video=20http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >--=20 >http://toaster.bandcamp.com --===============1597596003==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 02:23:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40D9318345E; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0D8E73BA-A81E-4A1F-8C9B-8066EDFB728D@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:23:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:23:45 +0000 (UTC) It was great to have you play Kaylon, I really enjoyed your set! Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 02:47:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56752183463; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=b5IyBgd4tgkCv0IDYvqnEB3XwjKsgxdXC3QuoFBpA9k=; b=MIRltg8hNoKCv24hRn+5VNwKBKhDY/+W8Lvn7MQ8psdZAfO5KSfyhLCYAhqVZi1o1/ ssWOdr8yqWDkvs7l/WRlmoc6sZmgRcAEOQAraIX8FS0sB7lxNbo5vqlNq9WQyowrVuVs 3rGU6s3LrJWpMdlwlpLeaWnnlzRuTq4vNfEJ6kAtbtLwQvE/bwRArTaJH74AZCaw0BYI ZDfZnkn5KaQUH0tHu+PXcZWLW+HpdCakqo76CiXPZ8cJeBbO04pEaJNLXjw7gcpFjnyZ e/PKRnUb7fDvXwE/WYUlKNd9jYzVHoJrsvLP0AI9Y9aoSMFjmIu6rDsBMifo77kp8c48 P/BA== From: Philip Clevenger Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FAFF9E86-8EB9-472F-99EC-E408197482B4" Subject: Y2K12 Thoughts Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:47:31 -0700 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:47:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_FAFF9E86-8EB9-472F-99EC-E408197482B4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it was = a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts. First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were = incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by = how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that = small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and = reversed and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard = whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's = mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, = my brain was forced to take notice :) I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own work ;) Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed a = tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit = about his process and his gear, even inviting questions. I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are questions I = would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had = something interesting going on that the audience might benefit from = knowing more about :) =20 Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive = acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who = may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform = alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and = Rick, and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for = that (as well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also = to all the brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the = leap.=20 Phil :)= --Apple-Mail=_FAFF9E86-8EB9-472F-99EC-E408197482B4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Sadly = I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it was a = great day and I'd like to share some = thoughts.

First, i was struck by how many = instrumental performers were incorporating sampled human voices into = their work. I was then struck by how much more compelling the work = became with the introduction of that small dose of humanity... whether = repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintelligible, somehow my = brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, = even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, = disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice = :)

I plan on looking into this "human voice" = phenomenon for my own work ;)

Second, = props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed a tad = early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit about = his process and his gear, even inviting = questions.

I'd sure like to see more of this in = the future. There are questions I would ask almost every performer I = saw, every single person had something interesting going on that the = audience might benefit from knowing more about :) =  

Finally, again one must = acknowledge the environment of inclusive acceptance fostered by Rick = Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may be frightened or young = or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongside with, and learn = from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Laurie, and so = many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as Bill and = Maha and George and all the staff), and also  to all the brave, the = young, and the new, who showed up, and took the = leap. 

Phil :)
= --Apple-Mail=_FAFF9E86-8EB9-472F-99EC-E408197482B4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 02:50:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B46A18345D; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <01FE8877-3C96-4AA6-82CA-6BC92F0972AB@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Another Y2K is in the books Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:50:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rick for another great festival, once again the house is empty and I've said goodbye to old friends and new. I had gigs on Friday night and part of Saturday that caused me to miss some performances , but what I did see was some great music and a celebration of diversity like no other festival I can think of. It was great to hear Joe Gore play, he has an absolutely staggering command of sound design using mainstage and logic often employing several distinct yet complimentary sounds in the course of a song. interestingly enough he loops with a boomerang rather than a soft looper. i miss everyone already, it was an excellent event that seems too short once its over. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 02:57:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B94C218345E; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1597596003==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121024025702.24865.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:57:02 -0400 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Didn't go to y2k but have an opinion Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1597596003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello!=20I=20didn't=20go=20to=20the=20y2k=20looping=20festival,=20but=20I= =20have=20this=20to=20say.=20There=20should=20be=20looping=20 festivals=20in=20several=20states=20throughout=20the=20U.=20S.=20I=20know,= =20I'm=20just=20a=20young=20new=20looper.=20I'm=20 virtually=20walking=20with=20Kaylon,=20and=20(sometimes)=20physically=20wal= king=20with=20Lizzie. Tyler=20Z --===============1597596003==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 03:20:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A4A418345C; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1351048841; bh=lXCa2hu1EWy1tSaukM71/WukzslsRO35moziN+pHdNg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=qObhf8LXEIFIiut6r2lHe52i9odW31iz57GFOdDfvALPqgqVnPrzJVFRMj+loMXz20QZPLRXdDkWLEJeGwwNqBFIS1XoJX4FHiZRFsZXzC+0uEC3bsYMJ0HhIi74bEYO5JHJUO163iv1GBI5yw8J3BOKoKjcmUfVckexJowSpxk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 377334.65089.bm@smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: xpX8RkYVM1mnIcJ38ZpKc4i.0UC3dwpxtVu1XmqPJNn5svc Y9pejS96cC8zjxU8no9faMqM3Wizbu7QE0FmZQYL5jtUl5kNSw3v1E.DQ9eM bw.BUV.yfy8rJXOzHZdJAqUdAZrFcgV.geB8.0JSl6Zg0wJeNg3gXI7UbNdc wtCMa2vplIZpwxuCOI5jo56cV9cKpfv0U_yVRyPfGLRenPQP5p7n7yYFqRpv 4payRb.xBt9PLEuCvF5mwudHbWXmnEYhPcxBZdOaTDrpFaPTO8ALnQJPSGOR 1uW0V_zPGmbgTFl7ErrcAYG_FvFp.doJkaKDRtleaO9Kuy5epACR1ooGeTCS sR7rCj4gq3ywMIqa9TtxTJB.EzV_PIeTAInprROOZBZRW_s_XG7i9UIA0jon 0rGb0pQ6siqyocpzoGPEz885eT3OzteQtZHHAa7ZyHGtMFA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- From: Laurie Amat Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_92878EA9-3601-48A5-AE57-FA21865A70BC" Subject: Re: Y2K12 Thoughts Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:20:49 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <2E3CA62E-DA8A-41F3-940D-E6092CB08AC2@att.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:20:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_92878EA9-3601-48A5-AE57-FA21865A70BC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the = company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored.=20 The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional = expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that.=20 On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it = was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts. >=20 > First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were = incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by = how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that = small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and = reversed and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard = whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's = mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, = my brain was forced to take notice :) >=20 > I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own work = ;) >=20 > Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed = a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit = about his process and his gear, even inviting questions. >=20 > I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are questions I = would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had = something interesting going on that the audience might benefit from = knowing more about :) =20 >=20 > Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive = acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who = may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform = alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and = Rick, and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for = that (as well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also = to all the brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the = leap.=20 >=20 > Phil :) --Apple-Mail=_92878EA9-3601-48A5-AE57-FA21865A70BC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Well = said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the company of = all the brilliant players, so I'm honored. 

The = human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional expression = and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love = that. 

On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip = Clevenger wrote:

Sadly I was only able to = attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it was a great day and I'd like = to share some thoughts.

First, i was struck by = how many instrumental performers were incorporating sampled human voices = into their work. I was then struck by how much more compelling the work = became with the introduction of that small dose of humanity... whether = repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintelligible, somehow my = brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, = even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, = disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice = :)

I plan on looking into this "human voice" = phenomenon for my own work ;)

Second, = props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed a tad = early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit about = his process and his gear, even inviting = questions.

I'd sure like to see more of this in = the future. There are questions I would ask almost every performer I = saw, every single person had something interesting going on that the = audience might benefit from knowing more about :) =  

Finally, again one must = acknowledge the environment of inclusive acceptance fostered by Rick = Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may be frightened or young = or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongside with, and learn = from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Laurie, and so = many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as Bill and = Maha and George and all the staff), and also  to all the brave, the = young, and the new, who showed up, and took the = leap. 

Phil = :)

= --Apple-Mail=_92878EA9-3601-48A5-AE57-FA21865A70BC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 03:33:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5EA118345D; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Z0W8iSn+wOksl3eLZPFb0Mpi1Di80jmd0x27Iy59MMc=; b=Yie/LQ8eTmIoLr7P3DRvCZp1lnMXIB7Zxqso9DXtfawxGAJmUuJxS3fF7VoQbenJqH puPwMvh13KLrclUDNd5gyCjbCR44xdhg2CQAWf43VTSc6JXwskTWOT23TIRWjkuc88cU g658NcdiOplM/UIPMwCRn4Ahdduayw3Aa9KcaZVr7fPdACiDLr2d3JTVD2fOEcriqfEz GhZbkVk7ne0RwPChwTzArol3lBdP9H4XnGiq/PB84e+BUGfM0Vu2mjGGA1y7n716Yx1k x5NdHK5lBukHvaawPsjWfNDWtppdk2ClxvfDVvvW7EXwqWWFJV6Jp42Ky3LGg3Im3N0z 3N9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2E3CA62E-DA8A-41F3-940D-E6092CB08AC2@att.net> References: <2E3CA62E-DA8A-41F3-940D-E6092CB08AC2@att.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:33:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2K12 Thoughts From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554df5a051cad04ccc5c023 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:33:30 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec554df5a051cad04ccc5c023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Phil, please ask those direct questions! The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath of fresh air if you normally work in isolation. Lindsey On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > > Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored. > > The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that. > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > >> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts. >> >> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice :) >> >> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own work ;) >> >> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit about his process and his gear, even inviting questions. >> >> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are questions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had something interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing more about :) >> >> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also to all the brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap. >> >> Phil :) > > --bcaec554df5a051cad04ccc5c023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Phil, please ask those direct questions!

The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of= the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath= of fresh air if you normally work in isolation.

Lindsey
On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
>
> Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the com= pany of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored.=A0
>
> The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional ex= pression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that.=A0
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote:
>
>> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but = it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts.
>>
>> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were incor= porating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by how muc= h more compelling the work became with the introduction of that small dose = of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintell= igible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was r= ecognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so= unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice :)
>>
>> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for= my own work ;)
>>
>> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that comple= ted a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bi= t about his process and his gear, even inviting questions.
>>
>> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are que= stions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had so= mething interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing m= ore about :) =A0
>>
>> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive a= cceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may= be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongsid= e with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Lau= rie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as = Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also =A0to all the brave, = the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap.=A0
>>
>> Phil :)
>
>

--bcaec554df5a051cad04ccc5c023-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 03:41:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C3A018345E; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=963z32gWnvB77R2v2ip5SAo6zYoJaTmjEcs+J1GxEhI=; b=SG9uuKTMmweC+HSJsOzm9gGpmHtT3uxUq48sMNvfYYTNWngXr0pL726z8PMOxhVuvA MtARQ8l2pPtvXmuExQK91ZuhE9aS1NwefQbDYw8Bo9t/5fvPSFE8XzAgj240B+6OLzjD aXR5PTWDNX4q/OeOZ5Gw29Gw+q/81sHOh/cOyFbOfhpgOjQxW3KOGqclbUum3zQCAZes MJLDMgzZ10W1w3fxyGChsjlMlcBYy6EAJoRwoVVqbY3B3uLjsNqFKVq7tUCXaMeVCV+a bOrtkk3270trck6pfbJbvr1ZgMi/ixSO29r3m2uFh5dRILzCT5KRCYc2nk8yd+z+/9wE TKwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2E3CA62E-DA8A-41F3-940D-E6092CB08AC2@att.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:41:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2K12 Thoughts From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de006efe3de904ccc5db0e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:41:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de006efe3de904ccc5db0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well put. Great experience indeed. I left with a smile on my face and a frown in my head because I had to leave so early. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > Phil, please ask those direct questions! > > The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of > the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath > of fresh air if you normally work in isolation. > > Lindsey > > On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > > > > Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the > company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored. > > > > The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional > expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that. > > > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > > > >> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it > was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts. > >> > >> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were > incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by > how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that > small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed > and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human > voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument > sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take > notice :) > >> > >> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own work ;) > >> > >> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed a > tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit > about his process and his gear, even inviting questions. > >> > >> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are questions I > would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had something > interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing more > about :) > >> > >> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive > acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who > may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform > alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, > and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as > well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also to all the > brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap. > >> > >> Phil :) > > > > > > -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art www.soundcloud.com/k3z --0016e6de006efe3de904ccc5db0e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well put. Great experience indeed. I left with a smile on my face and a fro= wn in my head because I had to leave so early.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker <= ;lindsey.walk= er@gmail.com> wrote:

Phil, please ask those direct questions!<= /p>

The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of= the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath= of fresh air if you normally work in isolation.

=

Lindsey


On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
>
> Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the com= pany of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored.=A0
>
> The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional ex= pression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that.=A0
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote:
>
>> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but = it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts.
>>
>> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were incor= porating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by how muc= h more compelling the work became with the introduction of that small dose = of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintell= igible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was r= ecognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so= unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice :)
>>
>> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for= my own work ;)
>>
>> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that comple= ted a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bi= t about his process and his gear, even inviting questions.
>>
>> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are que= stions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had so= mething interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing m= ore about :) =A0
>>
>> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive a= cceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may= be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongsid= e with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Lau= rie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as = Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also =A0to all the brave, = the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap.=A0
>>
>> Phil :)
>
>




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--0016e6de006efe3de904ccc5db0e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 03:43:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9902183461; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bcuns1Oe8u3NUnFuVEcmwWBjSwo7HuCWS86wq2RFfvc=; b=dxYgH59cTQB4SwjIhUkcS4bDYrc77igpkMZYbDhldmhw+Ppk4kgCQZZI8yz2INfbiO juaA7L0C9YscIMdwW7dlaFX/0PR0BtdyjyCxvANSExMKR3dhmuKV0jpILZu8RE0A5EyA GPIlBNG2N1zgvQdowwbGog86Z92IyzpI029aTV8btaiUsAet5xGRW0k5J2ypJZwilEfl VD804g++tSfrb870xWnbq/VSBuZ11+rGvw4tqM9hscBkyDudYid1KWHTqirtTf5v9k6M pWdk1yHWpvXD6rD+u2RSBUNY9YlCG9+IxuIKHt+D4KQglNbxv+sR/F7IggzuF3V+qXPN TX1g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0D8E73BA-A81E-4A1F-8C9B-8066EDFB728D@baymoon.com> References: <0D8E73BA-A81E-4A1F-8C9B-8066EDFB728D@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:43:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sooooo honored to play at Y2K12 From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044481452df44904ccc5e271 Resent-Message-ID: <4nkMjB.A.usD.HP2hQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:43:03 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044481452df44904ccc5e271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you guys! On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:23 PM, William Walker wrote: > It was great to have you play Kaylon, I really enjoyed your set! > Bill > > -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art www.soundcloud.com/k3z --f46d044481452df44904ccc5e271 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you guys!

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7= :23 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:<= br>
It was great to have you play Kaylon, I really enjoyed your set!
=A0Bill




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--f46d044481452df44904ccc5e271-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 03:47:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8E34183460; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-24_02:2012-10-23,2012-10-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210230398 Subject: Re: Another Y2K is in the books From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <01FE8877-3C96-4AA6-82CA-6BC92F0972AB@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:47:04 -0700 Message-id: <7786C85C-B8FA-42D7-B3F8-B54AE0544FF6@mac.com> References: <01FE8877-3C96-4AA6-82CA-6BC92F0972AB@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Sad to have missed you all this year. From what I have heard on youtube, it seems you had a wonderful festival. Loop on! Daniel On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:50 PM, William Walker wrote: > Thanks Rick for another great festival, once again the house is empty and I've said goodbye to old friends and new. I had gigs on Friday night and part of Saturday that caused me to miss some performances , but what I did see was some great music and a celebration of diversity like no other festival I can think of. It was great to hear Joe Gore play, he has an absolutely staggering command of sound design using mainstage and logic often employing several distinct yet complimentary sounds in the course of a song. interestingly enough he loops with a boomerang rather than a soft looper. i miss everyone already, it was an excellent event that seems too short once its over. > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 03:55:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F20F183460; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1Hd3KoUIG1biSssCRU0D2+v6K1NbGE3DYrhykvpK4Tk=; b=Od65Ox9WLu/p7kxsV6VhJRhxDCHCh7CAQ0L9BTy885Dcp656msx16nUR/NsOgdovQP HB1S+6TZcQEsM7tULW9WDvLzCw0yhn1Qb5JfdxaKoC1C6zfbVE4ZNSMCV6MJgJEDkB2c Abc2kyxnFCHs9haiyK6IFSb3l6yrSTHw4os2DHxtyFN13fab29+p61e6FO991LgdlR21 IK94lsyE1sxWEWBdk9aFD5Q3ZE5KCxd7wacnAE98R/TpCcZof4/29FAC6Bp4Ksya4qpT aCLYmbFpMx7oiFpYTJX4CQ3nuA2yB/XGQkJqxqs2BPfkr3O+285r5XiQStDJeh/mSwuW Nurw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2E3CA62E-DA8A-41F3-940D-E6092CB08AC2@att.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:55:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2K12 Thoughts From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9d7181a90631604ccc60fc8 Resent-Message-ID: <6hXGJC.A.MDE.Ab2hQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:55:44 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9d7181a90631604ccc60fc8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Someone asked me what playing there was like, and I said-- "I had an audience, they listened, and they applauded at the end." I know that sounds kind of silly, but it really meant a lot to me; I've been making this sort of music for some time now, and have never really played in front of an *attentive* audience before. It was a really neat experience, and by 'neat' I mean 'some other thing I am having trouble articulating'. I'm creating like mad already. T I On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > Phil, please ask those direct questions! > > The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of > the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath > of fresh air if you normally work in isolation. > > Lindsey > > On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > > > > Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the > company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored. > > > > The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional > expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that. > > > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > > > >> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it > was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts. > >> > >> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were > incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by > how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that > small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed > and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human > voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument > sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take > notice :) > >> > >> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own work ;) > >> > >> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed a > tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit > about his process and his gear, even inviting questions. > >> > >> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are questions I > would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had something > interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing more > about :) > >> > >> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive > acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who > may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform > alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, > and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as > well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also to all the > brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap. > >> > >> Phil :) > > > > > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --14dae9d7181a90631604ccc60fc8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Someone asked me what playing there was like, and I said-- "I had an a= udience, they listened, and they applauded at the end." I know that so= unds kind of silly, but it really meant a lot to me; I've been making t= his sort of music for some time now, and have never really played in front = of an *attentive* audience before. It was a really neat experience, and by = 'neat' I mean 'some other thing I am having trouble articulatin= g'. I'm creating like mad already.

T

I=A0
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker <lindse= y.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

Phil, please ask those direct questions!

The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of= the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath= of fresh air if you normally work in isolation.

Lindsey


On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
>
> Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the com= pany of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored.=A0
>
> The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional ex= pression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that.=A0
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote:
>
>> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but = it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts.
>>
>> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were incor= porating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by how muc= h more compelling the work became with the introduction of that small dose = of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintell= igible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was r= ecognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so= unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice :)
>>
>> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for= my own work ;)
>>
>> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that comple= ted a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bi= t about his process and his gear, even inviting questions.
>>
>> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are que= stions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had so= mething interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing m= ore about :) =A0
>>
>> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive a= cceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may= be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongsid= e with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Lau= rie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as = Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also =A0to all the brave, = the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap.=A0
>>
>> Phil :)
>
>




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--14dae9d7181a90631604ccc60fc8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 03:58:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DF44183455; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2STHuKCdVtzwmfb96TefQquOuS3lZ0FEhVreQ0aE2K8=; b=LbnSuTNFIK8hKBh/Jqu7qhQrHzdSVF4P8xFPbvcQHxCwpCSV/tkAZHdSWWMHSnysQC xef4HIPjIEEXBLhNWyawzgb4wSSCx6tDmJ6JP/rJ/8MA8yXwnV7upBoLNOZMexCszfU5 L7BCa56zaenyko+Qmd3nCUmQU5h0qi6yV14uyzoHqHQ2nK+BS9OYipaQwNyKzwDxMTLo yCxfjaOyEd1aBwJ0T26frj714cgwqrwDZSD67JN2YQIqeyJuJkPWoqjltSLV8qsLL2o0 PtZRxPjL88f9XErmu0KT2vEj/r+wGg9UMH9bp1ePCYOC1FbelTYdxyCCsP+oAd9xrmNj UTEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7786C85C-B8FA-42D7-B3F8-B54AE0544FF6@mac.com> References: <01FE8877-3C96-4AA6-82CA-6BC92F0972AB@baymoon.com> <7786C85C-B8FA-42D7-B3F8-B54AE0544FF6@mac.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:58:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another Y2K is in the books From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9ccdd4e3d01bc04ccc61a04 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:58:43 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9ccdd4e3d01bc04ccc61a04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I echo Daniel Bill, it sounds like it was equally wonderful or better than the 3 years I have been fortunate to attend thus far. I made a personal choice not to come this year as it's my son's last year home for a while with college coming next year. I hope to return to the event next year. I'm glad there were so many new present, particularly new young musicians on the front such as Kay'lon. It's a wondefully inspired fest that can only spawn new ideas and directions. Congrats to Rick for keeping this event going, doing what I'm sure was a stellar job keeping all together. Congrats to you Bill on being part of the 'team' and to you and all the performers who took part. Best Jim On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Daniel Thomas wrot= e: > Sad to have missed you all this year. From what I have heard on youtube= , > it seems you had a wonderful festival. > > Loop on! > > Daniel > On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:50 PM, William Walker wrote: > > > Thanks Rick for another great festival, once again the house is empty > and I've said goodbye to old friends and new. I had gigs on Friday night > and part of Saturday that caused me to miss some performances , but what = I > did see was some great music and a celebration of diversity like no other > festival I can think of. It was great to hear Joe Gore play, he has an > absolutely staggering command of sound design using mainstage and logic > often employing several distinct yet complimentary sounds in the course o= f > a song. interestingly enough he loops with a boomerang rather than a sof= t > looper. i miss everyone already, it was an excellent event that seems to= o > short once its over. > > Bill > > > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --14dae9ccdd4e3d01bc04ccc61a04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I echo Daniel Bill, it sounds like it was equally wonderful or better than = the 3 years I have been fortunate to attend thus far. =A0I made a personal = choice not to come this year as it's my son's last year home for a = while with college coming next year. =A0I hope to return to the event next = year. =A0I'm glad there were so many new present, particularly new youn= g musicians on the front such as Kay'lon. =A0It's a wondefully insp= ired fest that can only spawn new ideas and directions. =A0Congrats to Rick= for keeping this event going, doing what I'm sure was a stellar job ke= eping all together. =A0Congrats to you Bill on being part of the 'team&= #39; and to you and all the performers who took part.

Best


Jim

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Sad to have missed you all this year. =A0 Fr= om what I have heard on youtube, it seems you had a wonderful festival.

Loop on!

Daniel
On Oct 23, 2012, at 7= :50 PM, William Walker wrote:

> Thanks Rick for another great festival, once again the house is empty = and I've said goodbye to old friends and new. I had gigs on Friday nigh= t and part of Saturday that caused me to miss some performances , but what = I did see was some great music and a celebration of diversity like no other= festival I can think of. It was great to hear Joe Gore play, he has an abs= olutely staggering command of sound design using =A0mainstage and logic oft= en employing several distinct yet complimentary sounds in the course of a s= ong. interestingly enough he loops with a boomerang rather =A0than a soft l= ooper. =A0i miss everyone already, it was an excellent event that seems too= short once its over.
> Bill
>




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j= imgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repet= itive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

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On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > Someone asked me what playing there was like, and I said-- "I had an = audience, they listened, and they applauded at the end." I know that = sounds kind of silly, but it really meant a lot to me; I've been making = this sort of music for some time now, and have never really played in = front of an *attentive* audience before. It was a really neat = experience, and by 'neat' I mean 'some other thing I am having trouble = articulating'. I'm creating like mad already. >=20 > T >=20 > I=20 > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker = wrote: > Phil, please ask those direct questions! >=20 > The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction = of the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a = breath of fresh air if you normally work in isolation. >=20 > Lindsey >=20 >=20 > On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > > > > Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the = company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored.=20 > > > > The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional = expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that.=20 > > > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > > > >> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but = it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts. > >> > >> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were = incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by = how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that = small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and = reversed and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard = whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's = mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, = my brain was forced to take notice :) > >> > >> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own = work ;) > >> > >> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that = completed a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes = talking a bit about his process and his gear, even inviting questions. > >> > >> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are = questions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person = had something interesting going on that the audience might benefit from = knowing more about :) =20 > >> > >> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive = acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who = may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform = alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and = Rick, and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for = that (as well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also = to all the brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the = leap.=20 > >> > >> Phil :) > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://toaster.bandcamp.com --Apple-Mail=_9DFDDF02-0D18-49E4-8E14-65324394458D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Wow Todd, I thought it was just me, but since I've gotten back, I've been creating new things and plans like crazy!

On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Todd Elliott wrote:

Someone asked me what playing there was like, and I said-- "I had an audience, they listened, and they applauded at the end." I know that sounds kind of silly, but it really meant a lot to me; I've been making this sort of music for some time now, and have never really played in front of an *attentive* audience before. It was a really neat experience, and by 'neat' I mean 'some other thing I am having trouble articulating'. I'm creating like mad already.

T

I 
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker <lindsey.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

Phil, please ask those direct questions!

The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath of fresh air if you normally work in isolation.

Lindsey


On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
>
> Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored. 
>
> The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that. 
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote:
>
>> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts.
>>
>> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice :)
>>
>> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own work ;)
>>
>> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit about his process and his gear, even inviting questions.
>>
>> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are questions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had something interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing more about :)  
>>
>> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also  to all the brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap. 
>>
>> Phil :)
>
>




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--Apple-Mail=_9DFDDF02-0D18-49E4-8E14-65324394458D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 06:23:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07B22183463; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+K/ma1uiLqKea0ynP6koxznlDrRXMBpi2BqfiUha0xY=; b=d0enJT3t61dQgn2HY49r3VYIdPPYql8pNNkNi8RaPGGNfT/PCxkeErn8rZ90ykbYVJ zGgyAN24xtx/PQk41CkrFN3Jv4bNlmSYHotUxeeDFk7KKXhw5g9fRRPQ2YRTWge3LCi/ K/838dor4rUJSU611S9oFGft03UqKaUkASEj4+mFUU47CDSXOXjtBolEozIOn59wIANG UmjGAW/RVokKOpBhuZ5KJxXzqtOguFxoEMLrrroU9SA7jFhI9qiMrP/XHSugj42EdDLg qbxFJdwhFKjJviYqumknDwH/HYwYKmtMZiBai8Tt0B/YWehzADVAaQipA0Ji+RXUhJ5V 6exw== From: mark francombe Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3225380956694992882@unknownmsgid> Subject: OT: Vocoders... To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:23:48 +0000 (UTC) I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) I have a few already, but am looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3: The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint The V256 and the Talk Box ( maybe even one more???) Anyone have any experience with these units? I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old technique for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) but wondering if these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen says no.."the old machines are walker", but that might just be a bit of the old analog/digital, VHS/Betamax aurgument mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 06:48:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D324183464; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1WkoYckrIjRQGvyMVAAf10VJdg5lZg601uVPaWpzJCw=; b=bsaLAQECAnUCdaNYK3kjeDLQNTl8dPayctTLrZ48deTRV+OlBEQBB5fxs0fp/6oJ6p b88TZa6YvP7hIF3Q6gTtb1VrNmEPxvRjvtTqORNkBOLPk0VYSzgpWDaHExJZUm5sWmka Fkdojzeut6tmc4QTUFA79oTrVdYM8rvYfAvln857i83g2vp+JT+tX8d7QgZFYZTPqB0Q uLWVK/zQQfkUSTYGpTItbJ3s0BUQz89fvQiAUVq79u9pw5u6P+Wf/ZXR9FW8Zzto83fx GreJyoUrNr/lKRT1L+QAsL2mp0ebcmxO15okHeTmLaA1rwuXgqOtgnd2wQ8ntf8H61qR zA3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:48:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044481454da25404ccc8788a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:48:11 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044481454da25404ccc8788a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i've just linked the secodary feedback to my fader and its already fun! Im not sure what you mean with the scripting function though. Can you run it by me a little more? On Oct 23, 2012 3:05 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > Is there any way to make it so that the secondary feedback knob of each > > track is affected by only one fader dependending on the track that I have > > selected? > > Yes. > > > For example, say I use fader 9 to decrease secondary feedback for > > track 1 by having the track selected, then I switch to track 2 and change > > the feedback level for that one using the same fader,but without > affecting > > track 1. Is there a way to set that up? > > Yes. > > To do that you just assign the MIDI from your fader 9 to "Control: > Secondary Feedback", in Mobius MIDI Bindings window. > > You may also set up a default level for Secondary Feedback, as you do > with all other default parameters in the "Configuration / Track Setup" > window. I like to use 64 as my default because that makes a little > pocket in earlier layer under the new audio I layer with Sustain > Substitute. If you want to do glitchy stuff you may use "Secondary > Feedback = 0" and if you want a smoother mix you may go "Secondary > Feedback = 103". Value 127 is full and equals Overdub. Oh, and then > you can run a script that adds every second 32d note by Sustain > Substitute for the hole loop (or just a cycle) and then you can "live > mix" the Secondary Feedback level while the script is running (and you > play something that will be applied through that "stacatto grid". Just > one example. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --f46d044481454da25404ccc8788a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

i've just linked the secodary feedback to my fader and its already f= un! Im not sure what you mean with the scripting function though. Can you r= un it by me a little more?

On Oct 23, 2012 3:05 PM, "Per Boysen" = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrot= e:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there any way to make it so that the secondary feedback knob of eac= h
> track is affected by only one fader dependending on the track that I h= ave
> selected?

Yes.

> For example, say I use fader 9 to decrease secondary feedback for
> track 1 by having the track selected, then I switch to track 2 and cha= nge
> the feedback level for that one using the same fader,but without affec= ting
> track 1. Is there a way to set that up?

Yes.

To do that you just assign the MIDI from your fader 9 to =A0"Control:<= br> Secondary Feedback", in Mobius MIDI Bindings window.

You may also set up a default level for Secondary Feedback, as you do
with all other default parameters in the "Configuration / Track Setup&= quot;
window. I like to use 64 as my default because that makes a little
pocket in earlier layer under the new audio I layer with Sustain
Substitute. If you want to do glitchy stuff you may use "Secondary
Feedback =3D 0" and if you want a smoother mix you may go "Second= ary
Feedback =3D 103". Value 127 is full and equals Overdub. Oh, and then<= br> you can run a script that adds every second 32d note by Sustain
Substitute for the hole loop (or just a cycle) and then you can "live<= br> mix" the Secondary Feedback level while the script is running (and you=
play something that will be applied through that "stacatto grid".= Just
one example.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen

--f46d044481454da25404ccc8788a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 06:54:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E154718345E; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 14223 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:54:07 UTC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1597596003==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:54:02 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1597596003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My=20looper=20friend=20and=20I=20really=20like=20this=20thing=20called=20Mi= crokorg.=20It=20has=20a=20vocoder=20built=20in! Tyler=20Z On=20Wed,=2024=20Oct=202012=2008:23:42=20+0200,=20mark=20francombe=20wrote: >I'm=20researching=20Vocoders(not=20plugins)=20I=20have=20a=20few=20already= ,=20but=20am >looking=20at=20the=20Electro=20harmonix=20pedals.=20They=20have=20no=20few= er=20than=203: >The=20Iron=20Lung..=20small=20stomp=20footprint >The=20V256 >and=20the=20Talk=20Box >(=20maybe=20even=20one=20more???) > >Anyone=20have=20any=20experience=20with=20these=20units? > >I'm=20doing=20a=20lot=20if=20processing=20if=202=20inputs=20again...=20an= =20old=20technique >for=20me...=20I=20mean=2080s=20old(Korg=20VC10-=20now=20sold...=20alas)=20= but=20wondering=20if >these=20smaller=20units=20are=20any=20good...=20Laurie=20Andersen=20says= =20no.."the=20old >machines=20are=20walker",=20but=20that=20might=20just=20be=20a=20bit=20of= =20the=20old >analog/digital,=20VHS/Betamax=20aurgument > >mark > >Sent=20from=20my=20(advertisement=20removed) --===============1597596003==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 07:34:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 875FE183461; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=AcPx2zglBo4hVyqf50jxzZ8H7o8qRbvoRojLsBsD8t0=; b=F6NNOilv/hKo2GeLv2EDxKUwNIawmgDEmi4AiT2EIpEumkXfY68rTVQCbxBk/zyoLA /LRUkf0KdY5faR7j5mP9Sy1cihQB3F6sLU+CRKH2EMMY0ciXYmrseBI2d/SiZIOHBcnE MKnsy7gXVbppL/3MfTA2auJhpUJnSsrmRGSVoehdIioCa33/z2uISmIUTUHmV9Mp/Cn5 h4tLLZKVwcKhpqYMVXeFEVDQhEkwG7Szto2ZTvfOcOMU+ofuio899qqMtDvxzrNrLmKM rAQQF2FuOmH2Ugx7/4LlDOPwgyeyhicBJUasmFm9wYkctL5vl1mzSzPmQ/es8fyvzMq9 88Qw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:34:20 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WnzEUY66V4IpAibjo7TTPvcTffk Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b670727a3998104ccc91eb0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:34:42 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b670727a3998104ccc91eb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes I have that one Tyler... I was thinking about the Electro Harmonix pedals... By the way, the reason for my renewed interest in Vocoders is THIS amazing book... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612190928/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1612190928&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwmarkfranco-20 Its a bit flowery, but its written from the point of view of someone who seriously LOVES vocoders!! As I do... It was the vocoders in Kraftwerk, the Vocoders in Laurie Ansersen, even the vocoders in ELO that hooked me. And when I got a Korg VC10 (from a member of Temple ov Psychick Youth) in the late 80s, I was putting every thing thru it... drum machines on the voice input orchestras on the music input, my guitar routinely went thru it (not for the Neil Young Trans sound) but on the voice input, while a whole sub-mix of the rest of the band went in the music input... no one knew where that extra "organ" sound came from... To blow you mind, play audio into the Voice input of a vocoder, put the same audio thru a long, but in synch (maybe a bar or 2) delay and back into the music input... the dynamics and tonal frquencies of NOW, the musicv and pitch from 2 bars ago... strange... I assure you! Best Vocoder album ever (and I heard lots) Holger Czukay, "On the way to the peak of normal" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000067XI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0000067XI&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwmarkfranco-20 So.. Electro Harmonix users? M On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tyler wrote: > My looper friend and I really like this thing called Microkorg. It has a > vocoder built in! > Tyler Z > On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200, mark francombe wrote: > > > >I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b670727a3998104ccc91eb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes I have that one Tyler... I was thinking about the Electro Harmonix peda= ls...

By the way, the reason for my renewed interest in Vocoders is = THIS amazing book...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612190928/ref=3Das_li_= ss_tl?ie=3DUTF8&camp=3D1789&creative=3D390957&creativeASIN=3D16= 12190928&linkCode=3Das2&tag=3Dwwwmarkfranco-20

Its a bit flowery, but its written from the point of view of someone wh= o seriously LOVES vocoders!! As I do...
It was the vocoders in Kraftwer= k, the Vocoders in Laurie Ansersen, even the vocoders in ELO that hooked me= . And when I got a Korg VC10 (from a member of Temple ov Psychick Youth) in= the late 80s, I was putting every thing thru it... drum machines on the vo= ice input orchestras on the music input, my guitar routinely went thru it (= not for the Neil Young Trans sound) but on the voice input, while a whole s= ub-mix of the rest of the band went in the music input... no one knew where= that extra "organ" sound came from...

To blow you mind, play audio into the Voice input of a vocoder, put the= same audio thru a long, but in synch (maybe a bar or 2) delay and back int= o the music input... the dynamics and tonal frquencies of NOW, the musicv a= nd pitch from 2 bars ago... strange... I assure you!

Best Vocoder album ever (and I heard lots)

Holger Czukay, "= On the way to the peak of normal"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000067XI/ref=3Das_l= i_ss_tl?ie=3DUTF8&camp=3D1789&creative=3D390957&creativeASIN=3D= B0000067XI&linkCode=3Das2&tag=3Dwwwmarkfranco-20


So.. Electro Harmonix users?

M


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tyler <= span dir=3D"ltr"><programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:
My looper friend and I really like this thing called Microkorg. It has a vo= coder built in!
Tyler Z
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200, mark francombe wrote:


>I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins)
<= /div>

--
Mark Francombe<= br> www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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--047d7b670727a3998104ccc91eb0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 09:33:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D1A5183464; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <3225380956694992882@unknownmsgid> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... In-Reply-To: <3225380956694992882@unknownmsgid> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF7FE1BC7B189C_2130_8BEB2_webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37105-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF7FE1BC6F31B2-2130-24CE2@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [99.6.110.44] Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:33:18 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1351071199; bh=Q1xeuy7hdISNiIlRxth30d19EO9W/BUsujj7oBWIOwM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j8ISfuNd8Bw4aL6tQbPONbVkTJ0SkKYWMO06WLTGxvA1o/qHQzxoImYrqGpdrkmM4 9u9xptolwAVQ2YGHfHa/Bgo1BTQhYCvlriQOyjUp1GZuy5W47qeAvjL7ctrvNTSYgU U7tB5mRoWcisui/GoRpjHmo/4LB6z7nZGNZqLJzs= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:420601056:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a5087b5de5eab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:33:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF7FE1BC7B189C_2130_8BEB2_webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Kaossilator Pro has about 10 vocoder patches. It's fun for that and all= the whacky synth stuff it does.=20 PJ -----Original Message----- From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 2:23 am Subject: OT: Vocoders... I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) I have a few already, but am looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3: The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint The V256 and the Talk Box ( maybe even one more???) Anyone have any experience with these units? I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old technique for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) but wondering if these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen says no.."the old machines are walker", but that might just be a bit of the old analog/digital, VHS/Betamax aurgument mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) =20 ----------MB_8CF7FE1BC7B189C_2130_8BEB2_webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" The Kaossilator Pro has about 10 vocoder patches. It's fun= for that and all the whacky synth stuff it does. 

PJ


I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) I =
have a few already, but am
looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3:
The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint
The V256
and the Talk Box
( maybe even one more???)

Anyone have any experience with these units?

I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old technique
for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) but wondering if
these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen says no.."the old
machines are walker", but that might just be a bit of the old
analog/digital, VHS/Betamax aurgument

mark

Sent from my (advertisement removed)
----------MB_8CF7FE1BC7B189C_2130_8BEB2_webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 09:58:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E43A7183463; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9Dn1zxhBtlVtE6budsbYbNLeWC0VC840f86KJv7E1KI=; b=ZKxIkZD9c2QR3OuMj4F2veyCX3MX23HOXD4QOrLRo7z8D/TNhkV8BOAqmDq+0V5/iW QCOmy7sOedAOMvXDg2bhLX/WmokRZs2PrHi8ob2HBMTjP6ozQV7DKXAmB+QhtPA7LwWY x8CD/k2Hz/VH8SOpG4yUr/aae+ujRzvaxfHvcTy/SzGobH9mcHDLXoRj6H7gj4Mivts9 ZA0tl0hL/CgwD+2yyPLbnQtjYhd2Gmrvyg0h0uV+uJYZbH1TCi6zUDQmCLihNW/bjdRF VVB/T42ZXQJZiPPAiU4uB2h/SbIuzLJhhiMWCV0wXkhg5akFx8SnzQFU6yiI44k2cDjn z5vA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8CF7FE1BC6F31B2-2130-24CE2@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> References: <3225380956694992882@unknownmsgid> <8CF7FE1BC6F31B2-2130-24CE2@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:58:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YVvLJX9EJDPuyIfpMpUMyrJ32sw Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3440c63764ad04cccb22f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:58:52 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3440c63764ad04cccb22f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 YEs I had that one too.. sold it.. Was just mixing a voice with the synth sounds.. I want a "proper" vocoder, 2 inputs... :) Mark On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Patrick Bishop wrote: > The Kaossilator Pro has about 10 vocoder patches. It's fun for that and > all the whacky synth stuff it does. > > PJ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark francombe > To: loopers-delight > Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 2:23 am > Subject: OT: Vocoders... > > I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) I have a few already, but am > looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3: > The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint > The V256 > and the Talk Box > ( maybe even one more???) > > Anyone have any experience with these units? > > I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old technique > for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) but wondering if > these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen says no.."the old > machines are walker", but that might just be a bit of the old > analog/digital, VHS/Betamax aurgument > > mark > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b3440c63764ad04cccb22f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YEs I had that one too.. sold it.. Was just mixing a voice with the synth s= ounds.. I want a "proper" vocoder, 2 inputs...

:)

M= ark

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Pat= rick Bishop <pjbmhb@aol.com> wrote:
T= he Kaossilator Pro has about 10 vocoder patches. It's fun for that and = all the whacky synth stuff it does.=A0

PJ


-----Original Mes= sage-----
From: mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
To: loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 2:23 am
Subject: OT: Vocoders...

I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) =
I have a few already, but am
looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3:
The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint
The V256
and the Talk Box
( maybe even one more???)

Anyone have any experience with these units?

I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old technique
for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) but wondering if
these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen says no.."the old
machines are walker", but that might just be a bit of the old
analog/digital, VHS/Betamax aurgument

mark

Sent from my (advertisement removed)
=20



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--047d7b3440c63764ad04cccb22f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 11:30:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE64218345A; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JccwnXlAQGyS7hIIgbZJaiXRiEIiDgarLaXmYar5g3g=; b=ObUgddu0EbvbbMjL5HURB/09ysdnpDa77I/S8PPhkX2s7cjjsW99dAjUP8rR+cGYGK BMzlcHlFvpQGkYhvfI7Hq7RMSTUW3GHFWg2WEgMFlX7rgq2fUzYKsq5DfBmkH2gbk7ex g72ezvth/BK0LnkeTV8MJUIRPLFwjLt0kALoBmoR8y4pD7FusAJykoGMC09Xw+KtKqbG ByI/puI2CSeVt4SJ/6vMXqjsv4OCZJhgOzUK/XzsKYeMp6/oAkNHUtRKCYJXSlN5ZxkX QkGnkgDw2n5LF/DgufWwnLR+u+yeiQAFkE+Xdt8IItDvFX1ez9ZRpcIfrPT+IL/SzZv5 L+ZA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:30:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:30:42 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:48 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > i've just linked the secodary feedback to my fader and its already fun! Im > not sure what you mean with the scripting function though. Can you run it by > me a little more? Here's a scenario: - You press a button that will launch such a "grid script" on the next cycle cusp. - You play a sound while the script is running- - While playing you move your Secondary Feedback fader. Next time that part of the loop comes back a 16th note stacatto beat from you latest played sound is part of the loop. The beating new part smoothly replaces more or less underlying loop audio depending on how you juggled the Secondary Feedback fader during the input phase. Hope this example shows more what I mean. I often use these type of "grid scripts" with plain noise input to crate "hi-hat patterns", but the musical application options are of course endless. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 12:57:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEA11183464; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 946086.80678.bm@omp1030.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1351083457; bh=PhnAhIeAAxn+dymFp7EI9j4Sfi3RAbxUVj9T6e9TNk0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PbKDOYF3s0R5yVKCa4b8NpoIOMrfNgIpFBNuzPNtECSzI6RPiFA1Se1YIkFKpjl/dwM86X0Z4ndGm0Kq/ond/bOS5LsacXWecA2MEex8JwgppIyzQ/hOqxCJ9qQgwI4PeRjBjXtvykFDZj5RTDT0pHb6V09Q/bbBy2WAWubNG2Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ToGrrp1XXe4c7xzXc2RuHruVrGXVKBWgimBWVdkXbjBHejTlmyxHA8V24UGI/pvi7WqmBZEiAHlefQBYN5nkZIin1Ep+gbRn34/rhaPjxaYZLKoPyOKHsQtNX5yem2T3Qeb7i8Yd2Uayw+/r5lK1DA/DrEyV44SJTgERbcdySqg=; X-YMail-OSG: 0Tetqd8VM1kdeTs2Ld1nYCGx4W4u4PSb30zt9opq_Z.8fuE ikL6dPPmdkqRTysohdqjftDwa2ieJ1lc32bY0SdPhwgjXB4Mh8m8CrUrTQ0Z S22hUbCkqN6IffSJi6zWjtll9_N.xYfPCbj7OLWw6sgAzmrrI2OSauytDAat aLays3hgZvKrn1IT_Ol.7gt4yOh8LiljVwe1H74NmmxSeuGFWFagZakh.z5q DYl8zh_3w7bG7XRWLiT3a_FmYVQoA3Y7knj0qzJKVPf72d3nC.33zSzOxnAF C4rYrvkA0XMcJ4Wom5qRR2tkSirUOWYptN5VDQBIlL2yjErcmAZ85hSJbDuT QQ6bE3.CtyMVOYQkjJCsYqEenUEKPapCUA.QAOhljgK0xoxyLK8ciUpFdTon RIuG_oexcKcc9UVyQfHT166X6_1OPrSZxaOpMczzPPs7WrJ7LQSO.0qxFcqR CnXwWZaGz04W0wZ6mQ5lQKKCLrS3.bRekp2EPpdc4kJ0TfBnQJuYDVxWd3oY xvG8vQDr_Uz_lWyienxUnA5OvNFWsR95Jf6owekR722Hk62Hw.Megdu4ZK4. qZsZktUc7NKOF.vCVk7aBeCYepc2c0ngLbEvrXzjxIwXv0yGwm1ADMjAlnx0 i_ht.5uOK0BsbheDMCUAMn8FZxU8flWE74AF6jk2aeovGG103iDijUE8DVBC W3Ynk4st73ZI2TNusjRnZQMC..5oz5WenOohMl8EaWUloUqnsgavl5AkVMQg rE1X4CxNCMoFUfr0JGkAsvz8mPl2HG9egiM9SSmh_FYyi0pVIrpscayTa6aS mHWF6K9VawZ_Q4F2yqpC8Q0ZOgJ4zAMZF7pMf4s2f_.5lgN6beFE0yWxoTBD 0pK_aa3SRnjbcm113h9Pp9apeOzt.gJilddoo0OaAlM0PqgKSP.Hkplv.SU2 t.FOsnoSqprXf59ID_1UyB4PsdRQZ9YsmgV_mmk_NBY3hN_R_vIfXO.Apf3v FRGALX.N79Aga04OoLmIidylnlYuigPLPQg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SSBoYXZlIHRoZSA4IGJhbmQgUGFpYS4gSSBsb3ZlIGl0LiBOb3QgZW5vdWdoIGJhbmRzIHRob3VnaC4gVGhlIFJvbGFuZCBoYXMgMTEsIEkgYW0gdHJ5aW5nIHRvIGZpbmQgYSB0aWUgaW4gcG9pbnQgb24gMzEgYmFuZCBvciBkdWFsIDE1IGJhbmQgTVhSIGdyYXBoaWMgRVFzIHRvIHRhcCB0aGUgc2lnbmFscyBhbmQgaW5zZXJ0IHNvbWUgY2lyY3VpdHJ5IGZvciB2b2NvZGluZy4gUHJvYmxlbSBpcyBmaW5kaW5nIHdoZXJlIHRvIHRhcCBhbmQgY3V0IHRoZSBjaXJjdWl0cyB0byBlbGltaW5hdGUgc3VtbWluZy4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Message-ID: <1351083457.19744.YahooMailNeo@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:57:37 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-2002498609-335490836-1351083457=:19744" Resent-Message-ID: <3ZU06C.A.cFB.CX-hQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:57:38 +0000 (UTC) ---2002498609-335490836-1351083457=:19744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have the 8 band Paia. I love it. Not enough bands though. The Roland has 11, I am trying to find a tie in point on 31 band or dual 15 band MXR graphic EQs to tap the signals and insert some circuitry for vocoding. Problem is finding where to tap and cut the circuits to eliminate summing. After that, some VCAs and maybe rectification/filtering for moduaers. Rig ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:34 AM Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... Yes I have that one Tyler... I was thinking about the Electro Harmonix pedals... By the way, the reason for my renewed interest in Vocoders is THIS amazing book... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612190928/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1612190928&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwmarkfranco-20 Its a bit flowery, but its written from the point of view of someone who seriously LOVES vocoders!! As I do... It was the vocoders in Kraftwerk, the Vocoders in Laurie Ansersen, even the vocoders in ELO that hooked me. And when I got a Korg VC10 (from a member of Temple ov Psychick Youth) in the late 80s, I was putting every thing thru it... drum machines on the voice input orchestras on the music input, my guitar routinely went thru it (not for the Neil Young Trans sound) but on the voice input, while a whole sub-mix of the rest of the band went in the music input... no one knew where that extra "organ" sound came from... To blow you mind, play audio into the Voice input of a vocoder, put the same audio thru a long, but in synch (maybe a bar or 2) delay and back into the music input... the dynamics and tonal frquencies of NOW, the musicv and pitch from 2 bars ago... strange... I assure you! Best Vocoder album ever (and I heard lots) Holger Czukay, "On the way to the peak of normal" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000067XI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0000067XI&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwmarkfranco-20 So.. Electro Harmonix users? M On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tyler wrote: My looper friend and I really like this thing called Microkorg. It has a vocoder built in! >Tyler Z > >On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200, mark francombe wrote: > > >>I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) > -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ ---2002498609-335490836-1351083457=:19744 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I have the 8 band Paia. I love it. Not enough bands though. The Roland has 11, I am trying to find a tie in point on 31 band or dual 15 band MXR graphic EQs to tap the signals and insert some circuitry for vocoding. Problem is finding where to tap and cut the circuits to eliminate summing. After that, some VCAs and maybe rectification/filtering for moduaers.
Rig
From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders...

Yes I have that one Tyler... I was thinking about the Electro Harmonix pedals...

By the way, the reason for my renewed interest in Vocoders is THIS amazing book...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612190928/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1612190928&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwmarkfranco-20

Its a bit flowery, but its written from the point of view of someone who seriously LOVES vocoders!! As I do...
It was the vocoders in Kraftwerk, the Vocoders in Laurie Ansersen, even the vocoders in ELO that hooked me. And when I got a Korg VC10 (from a member of Temple ov Psychick Youth) in the late 80s, I was putting every thing thru it... drum machines on the voice input orchestras on the music input, my guitar routinely went thru it (not for the Neil Young Trans sound) but on the voice input, while a whole sub-mix of the rest of the band went in the music input... no one knew where that extra "organ" sound came from...

To blow you mind, play audio into the Voice input of a vocoder, put the same audio thru a long, but in synch (maybe a bar or 2) delay and back into the music input... the dynamics and tonal frquencies of NOW, the musicv and pitch from 2 bars ago... strange... I assure you!

Best Vocoder album ever (and I heard lots)

Holger Czukay, "On the way to the peak of normal"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000067XI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0000067XI&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwmarkfranco-20


So.. Electro Harmonix users?

M


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:
My looper friend and I really like this thing called Microkorg. It has a vocoder built in!
Tyler Z
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200, mark francombe wrote:


>I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins)


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http://www.looop.no
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---2002498609-335490836-1351083457=:19744-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 15:01:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72E11183464; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2833b0bb-f536-455c-b31c-2767546c7049_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.13.201] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: OT: Vocoders... Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:01:22 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3225380956694992882@unknownmsgid> References: <3225380956694992882@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2012 15:01:22.0455 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E52FA70:01CDB1F8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:01:23 +0000 (UTC) --_2833b0bb-f536-455c-b31c-2767546c7049_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As you know=2C the voice is 90% of my setup=2C so I am alsways looking for = new ways of manipulating it and use it as an instrument to produce sounds m= ore than as a way to comunicate meanings.A vocoder is on my list but unfort= unately I have no budget. A guy told me that the vocoder in Ableton is very= good and that I can control it with a midi controller so I stopped searchi= ng for a harware one. May I ask you why you need an hardware one? For the o= nld school vocodering which required an instrument plus voice? Will you pla= y quitar while vocodering?I will not=2C so I was searching for a vocoder wh= ich can vocoder WITHOUT any additional instrument=2C just voice.I have foun= d two:electro harmonix v256 (btw=2C I do not know the talk box but they hav= e one called voice box which has got harmony generator too).and Tc Helicon = VoiceTone Synth.I think you will have to look to this other one=2C expecial= ly if you do not have other effects of them or other good megaphone / telep= hon( radio effect. Their ones are very good. And with that vocoder you have= lot of options.I find it much more interesting that the electro harmonix b= ut personally if you have budget I would buy both.I will to=2C when I have = money. > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Wed=2C 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200 > Subject: OT: Vocoders... > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) I have a few already=2C but am > looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3: > The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint > The V256 > and the Talk Box > ( maybe even one more???) >=20 > Anyone have any experience with these units? >=20 > I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old technique > for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) but wondering if > these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen says no.."the old > machines are walker"=2C but that might just be a bit of the old > analog/digital=2C VHS/Betamax aurgument >=20 > mark >=20 > Sent from my (advertisement removed) >=20 = --_2833b0bb-f536-455c-b31c-2767546c7049_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As you know=2C the voice is 90% of my setup=2C so I am alsways looking for = new ways of manipulating it and use it as an instrument to produce sounds m= ore than as a way to comunicate meanings.
A vocoder is on my list but u= nfortunately I have no budget. A guy told me that the vocoder in Ableton is= very good and that I can control it with a midi controller so I stopped se= arching for a harware one. May I ask you why you need an hardware one? For = the onld school vocodering which required an instrument plus voice? Will yo= u play quitar while vocodering?
I will not=2C so I was searching = for a vocoder which can vocoder WITHOUT any additional instrument=2C just v= oice.
I have found two:
electro harmonix v256 (btw=2C I= do not know the talk box but they have one called voice box which has got = harmony generator too).
and Tc Helicon VoiceTone Synth.
I think you will have to look to this other one=2C expecially if you do no= t have other effects of them or other good megaphone / telephon( radio effe= ct. Their ones are very good. And with that vocoder you have lot of options= .
I find it much more interesting that the electro harmonix but p= ersonally if you have budget I would buy both.
I will to=2C when = I have money.

>=3B From= : markfrancombe@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200=
>=3B Subject: OT: Vocoders...
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
>=3B
>=3B I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) I hav= e a few already=2C but am
>=3B looking at the Electro harmonix pedals.= They have no fewer than 3:
>=3B The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint=
>=3B The V256
>=3B and the Talk Box
>=3B ( maybe even one m= ore???)
>=3B
>=3B Anyone have any experience with these units?>=3B
>=3B I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an o= ld technique
>=3B for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas= ) but wondering if
>=3B these smaller units are any good... Laurie And= ersen says no.."the old
>=3B machines are walker"=2C but that might ju= st be a bit of the old
>=3B analog/digital=2C VHS/Betamax aurgument>=3B
>=3B mark
>=3B
>=3B Sent from my (advertisement re= moved)
>=3B
= --_2833b0bb-f536-455c-b31c-2767546c7049_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 16:33:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B427183465; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xzLlitvyNUD/mSqBzZCbhZJPe6x2j2p0oOjAO01GGEE=; b=V3/akc9t8pfa4VqXtt22vxwXe0HVSxuaZ14sQ17DWZaspPBkyeHUKWKvtVz4qDlAkg XGYZgxvKuopm0rxOvryJdrjNw/JQj3vH7602D1/lkJfZH2esPjqGBEP4AduL4VzZQqvD lQviEMcxnEeGUw++up/m4z6MS39/gxNKXxj/yWOel1Lc1cSMxPRRES8Pmv1248LQ8EyN JFIoIrAMSiR+elwigd+SzjBIStgYm9LP4uzyn6T1JFtl50n1TBaVEbtFShvD5Lt52lEA oKfvXgktmGn+5GvxCIecCIT64Uoer/SJ/HjrVNPk7Q/sy/hrz4wmle9q3OhMwZVkXIGo 1+bQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:33:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Vocoders... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d589e1124e7204ccd0a56f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d589e1124e7204ccd0a56f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yrs ago i had a broken alesis ineko, small desk top effects thing. the reverb section was broke, which didn't bother me. one of the "whacky" effects was the vocoder. i was using it for guitar & loop processing. i don't remember it working real well on guitar for me.... i'm not sure if it was the greatest vocoder out there, i'm sure they are cheap. i did like the filter stuff on it though and the bit reducer was fun! happy hunting... s--- --0016e6d589e1124e7204ccd0a56f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 yrs ago i had a broken alesis ineko, small desk top effects thing. the reverb section was broke, which didn't bother me.
one of the "whacky" effects was the vocoder.
i was using it for guitar & loop processing.
i don't remember it working real well on guitar for me....
i'm not sure if it was the greatest vocoder out there, i'm sure they are cheap.
i did like the filter stuff on it though and the bit reducer was fun!
happy hunting...
s---
--0016e6d589e1124e7204ccd0a56f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 16:35:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74D12183464; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Go+HE40DVu/WUy/WGCQ3S399KnqAcTreHrBt/SuoFHM=; b=s0Isz1MMVc0dRjhV/GarjAkedM5XE2VZitqirzyE3YSd1BqZO4fhlpCckw3pRCExTj q6HE6k1QG/WHSOZrsuDG4LJpNi6ZNW6Na7SEwrFUqBL8zsIOcVqHEWQ4CXtGHQGBNXSf iml4h8s+k83RGZ//OukwdLKS5lg+DWiZqcDY1P+IYBB1qKsfLi6mOGWuZPS50tRRvSyx 2k7/s+8mmI57KOZ1AWx0PNelTYJMJ9IHvLADGYAFS2CCKrUxkkDvxnmTjFaPhAyqxCS8 g8wtNA3BuHogWjU8dnjXNxIVpz2+ysoxxpxS6kHaqjTD0IbWz4Oa8AedJ8SJuK6KdXwh SuQw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2E3CA62E-DA8A-41F3-940D-E6092CB08AC2@att.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:35:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2K12 Thoughts From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7ddd7a6c9104ccd0ab9e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:35:10 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7ddd7a6c9104ccd0ab9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've had a bunch of new ideas too. I might perform at school again. On Oct 23, 2012 11:01 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > Wow Todd, I thought it was just me, but since I've gotten back, I've been > creating new things and plans like crazy! > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > > Someone asked me what playing there was like, and I said-- "I had an > audience, they listened, and they applauded at the end." I know that sounds > kind of silly, but it really meant a lot to me; I've been making this sort > of music for some time now, and have never really played in front of an > *attentive* audience before. It was a really neat experience, and by 'neat' > I mean 'some other thing I am having trouble articulating'. I'm creating > like mad already. > > T > > I > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > >> Phil, please ask those direct questions! >> >> The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of >> the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath >> of fresh air if you normally work in isolation. >> >> Lindsey >> >> On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: >> > >> > Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the >> company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored. >> > >> > The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional >> expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that. >> > >> > On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >> > >> >> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it >> was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts. >> >> >> >> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were >> incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by >> how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that >> small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed >> and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human >> voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument >> sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take >> notice :) >> >> >> >> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own work ;) >> >> >> >> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed >> a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit >> about his process and his gear, even inviting questions. >> >> >> >> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are questions I >> would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had something >> interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing more >> about :) >> >> >> >> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive >> acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who >> may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform >> alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, >> and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as >> well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also to all the >> brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap. >> >> >> >> Phil :) >> > >> > >> >> > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > > > --0016e6db7ddd7a6c9104ccd0ab9e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've had a bunch of new ideas too. I might perform at school again.<= /p>

On Oct 23, 2012 11:01 PM, "Laurie Amat"= ; <voicesound@att.net> wrot= e:
Wow Todd, I thought it was just me, but= since I've gotten back, I've been creating new things and plans li= ke crazy!

On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Todd Elliott wrote= :

Someone asked me what playing there was like,= and I said-- "I had an audience, they listened, and they applauded at= the end." I know that sounds kind of silly, but it really meant a lot= to me; I've been making this sort of music for some time now, and have= never really played in front of an *attentive* audience before. It was a r= eally neat experience, and by 'neat' I mean 'some other thing I= am having trouble articulating'. I'm creating like mad already.
T

I=A0
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker <lindse= y.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

Phil, please ask those direct questions!<= /p>

The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction= of the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a bre= ath of fresh air if you normally work in isolation.

Lindsey


On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
>
> Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the com= pany of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored.=A0
>
> The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional ex= pression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that.=A0
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote:
>
>> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but = it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts.
>>
>> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were incor= porating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by how muc= h more compelling the work became with the introduction of that small dose = of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintell= igible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was r= ecognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so= unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice :)
>>
>> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for= my own work ;)
>>
>> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that comple= ted a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bi= t about his process and his gear, even inviting questions.
>>
>> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are que= stions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had so= mething interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing m= ore about :) =A0
>>
>> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive a= cceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may= be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongsid= e with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Lau= rie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as = Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also =A0to all the brave, = the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap.=A0
>>
>> Phil :)
>
>




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http://toaster.bandcamp.com<= /a>

--0016e6db7ddd7a6c9104ccd0ab9e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 16:58:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDE78183474; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1351097926; bh=5+X4Oid9gW5ncEF9mF1QmRoKV6Js84DxkqoKgdGQDgc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=FtFVfcTmRud/crWrmR7aafAu755PYaYHxXHakrWi72YWhg8HgONuYYdCUFULM2rpBk6J5Tek9awMsDx1zw2JkRwR1oO4i4EKyzNGGexSm0mJjAEmeRzMQuSREo/rrUymVbJo495AWQen6TwkQBJPoMOSzLOXs3D+NEN2GWklIFc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 747000.13768.bm@smtp108.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: CqXN7vgVM1k1GhW7mSFi2kaWQFcIsw01jKFK_tuofIyWUzK bnCUeGcJZIcAQylaf3JtDYIZx4pIuY8cAPLf.BGaJDwC9pMY9d.fOVW0mWSz P9lc7atijEdveB7NQvZ0MrMi1_ETWVUiLKBMT3z4ri0LpdgKqm1rZwyLnqaa x.vqI_wm8aMRIIdXtcSykb2tEfGfAGBTumhFjJYsjQYfwaHBGHhFHLiuB..0 tYQEoEATjs4CAYMYLLzreCa2jWFegoU0dcLhtig3BYejJigd53ub.2o589Bj w1auTlbaw5oxTGzLZcqA4Wz.reFajg5iGVTN6uovTYXo6L6S7g1_oEE8S.4x EL0p5rIC3plkvO3BY8znOhxJ6JyiUe8Kpic6BVRvOF.vvqAqZUuERIuiF663 Vk9G9geVzFh6.Vfe50GeImyp5G1X76.tyxKWgTBn0dCfFi0TF5uKltvrREK3 R3roQFEY._uUjhxcvnr97gRsebjbCeZfqA.0iop48JsoNzZyrZBOCMxiCRtG h9WDk9li2vE7M8bwYDEgH3fJznF6TcA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- From: Laurie Amat Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A197E3D9-7829-41F3-93E7-01804D34B7E7" Subject: Re: Y2K12 Thoughts Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:58:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <2E3CA62E-DA8A-41F3-940D-E6092CB08AC2@att.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:58:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_A197E3D9-7829-41F3-93E7-01804D34B7E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Excellent idea! And Kay'lon, If you ever want to create with voice, I = would play with you and your music. Just sayin' On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:35 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > I've had a bunch of new ideas too. I might perform at school again. >=20 > On Oct 23, 2012 11:01 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: > Wow Todd, I thought it was just me, but since I've gotten back, I've = been creating new things and plans like crazy! >=20 > On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: >=20 >> Someone asked me what playing there was like, and I said-- "I had an = audience, they listened, and they applauded at the end." I know that = sounds kind of silly, but it really meant a lot to me; I've been making = this sort of music for some time now, and have never really played in = front of an *attentive* audience before. It was a really neat = experience, and by 'neat' I mean 'some other thing I am having trouble = articulating'. I'm creating like mad already. >>=20 >> T >>=20 >> I=20 >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker = wrote: >> Phil, please ask those direct questions! >>=20 >> The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction = of the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a = breath of fresh air if you normally work in isolation. >>=20 >> Lindsey >>=20 >>=20 >> On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" wrote: >> > >> > Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the = company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored.=20 >> > >> > The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional = expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that.=20 >> > >> > On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >> > >> >> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but = it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts. >> >> >> >> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were = incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by = how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that = small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and = reversed and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard = whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's = mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, = my brain was forced to take notice :) >> >> >> >> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own = work ;) >> >> >> >> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that = completed a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes = talking a bit about his process and his gear, even inviting questions. >> >> >> >> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are = questions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person = had something interesting going on that the audience might benefit from = knowing more about :) =20 >> >> >> >> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive = acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who = may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform = alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and = Rick, and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for = that (as well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also = to all the brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the = leap.=20 >> >> >> >> Phil :) >> > >> > >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> http://toaster.bandcamp.com >=20 --Apple-Mail=_A197E3D9-7829-41F3-93E7-01804D34B7E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Excellent idea! And Kay'lon, If you ever want to create with voice, I would play with you and your music. Just sayin'


On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:35 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote:

I've had a bunch of new ideas too. I might perform at school again.

On Oct 23, 2012 11:01 PM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
Wow Todd, I thought it was just me, but since I've gotten back, I've been creating new things and plans like crazy!

On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Todd Elliott wrote:

Someone asked me what playing there was like, and I said-- "I had an audience, they listened, and they applauded at the end." I know that sounds kind of silly, but it really meant a lot to me; I've been making this sort of music for some time now, and have never really played in front of an *attentive* audience before. It was a really neat experience, and by 'neat' I mean 'some other thing I am having trouble articulating'. I'm creating like mad already.

T

I 
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Lindsey Walker <lindsey.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

Phil, please ask those direct questions!

The environment is like none other, and to bring back even a fraction of the the inspiration Rick, Bill, Maha and their support provide is a breath of fresh air if you normally work in isolation.

Lindsey


On Oct 23, 2012 8:20 PM, "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
>
> Well said, Phil. I must say that I still feel like a newbie in the company of all the brilliant players, so I'm honored. 
>
> The human voice does change everything. It's a direct emotional expression and that makes it a pretty risky thing. We love that. 
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote:
>
>> Sadly I was only able to attend the last day of the Loopfest, but it was a great day and I'd like to share some thoughts.
>>
>> First, i was struck by how many instrumental performers were incorporating sampled human voices into their work. I was then struck by how much more compelling the work became with the introduction of that small dose of humanity... whether repeated phrases or slowed and reversed and unintelligible, somehow my brain just perked up hard whenever the human voice was recognized. Hell, even Mandoman's mysterious bowed instrument sounded so unnervingly, disturbingly human, my brain was forced to take notice :)
>>
>> I plan on looking into this "human voice" phenomenon for my own work ;)
>>
>> Second, props to Todd Elliott. After a beautiful piece that completed a tad early, he elected to spend the remaining few minutes talking a bit about his process and his gear, even inviting questions.
>>
>> I'd sure like to see more of this in the future. There are questions I would ask almost every performer I saw, every single person had something interesting going on that the audience might benefit from knowing more about :)  
>>
>> Finally, again one must acknowledge the environment of inclusive acceptance fostered by Rick Walker that makes it possible for anyone who may be frightened or young or new, to have the opportunity to perform alongside with, and learn from, acknowledged masters such as Bill and Rick, and Laurie, and so many others. And so my hat is off to Rick for that (as well as Bill and Maha and George and all the staff), and also  to all the brave, the young, and the new, who showed up, and took the leap. 
>>
>> Phil :)
>
>




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--Apple-Mail=_A197E3D9-7829-41F3-93E7-01804D34B7E7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 17:05:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93AF2183474; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 608 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:05:23 UTC References: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <1D1BBBCD-797C-4A9D-8683-6B339220758A@zzz.ch> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A403) From: Z Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:55:08 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <5zzvh.A.prD.T_BiQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:05:23 +0000 (UTC) I definitely think there could be a venue in Geneva Switzerland too.. ;) z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net Le 12 oct. 2012 =C3=A0 10:58, Rick Walker a =C3=A9crit= : > This thread got started on Facebook (by Leander Reininghaus in Berlin), bu= t I thought it was germane for everyone in this community to read (and perha= ps some others would want to participate, both as artists and possibly festi= val producers): >=20 > Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinating a s= ummer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, Norwhich a= nd Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and also in Tokyo, Osak= a, Singapore and possibly...See More >=20 >=20 > Rick Walker: Michael? Massimo? Bruno? Fabio? Gaetano? Andy? Georgina? Davi= d? Ryusei? Hideki? Randolf? >=20 >=20 > Michael Peters: replace the question marks by exclamation marks! >=20 >=20 > Rick Walker: I like your style, Michael Peters >=20 >=20 > Rick Walker: Michael! Leander! Massimo! Bruno! Fabio! Gaetano! Andy! Georg= ina! David! Ryusei! Hideki! Randolf! Rick! >=20 >=20 > Michael Peters: that's more like it !! >=20 >=20 > Michael Peters: of course, many more names could be added ... >=20 >=20 > Rick Walker: I'm actually talking with people about Bali, Vietnam, Thailan= d, Vien, Zurich, Munchen, Croatia and possibly some places in Scandinavia, b= ut the names I've mentioned have all said that they want to officially expan= d the Y2K13 International Live Looping concept with festivals under that umb= rella name. > I think it's very exciting that a mere 12 years later (17 since Loopers De= light was created) that we are talking about such a scope. >=20 > The coolest thing is that we've done all of this with a modicum of money a= nd a maximum of community involvement..........mostly through the internet (= and the various festivals, of course) >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 18:13:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E16FC183464; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gUUlyx7g46fQWorJJaeqEH5dm8f6lGaRhNMNfavOegw=; b=yMg0w8ks4H1x6SidFLyF/NWWmmhBQKMNYQgl5+hlfhMNsyZGOm4ONJ1VYfIssP8Y73 COpY1871LMzGMkMtmnMBBrJieUFKB6D7Vf1enRJ22q59HuJI5hGgCVL75Ht3IktLQVpb Lslzhy7mdMNgE3K3EmgK0DLPa2BTFo1vVO7Y0sMRTtxrZ68nK3Fbtu3LUAwC6k0eo2HC B8yYuta6tvUc1WcNvghA6VwxibVVhuT/NpYlBxEv64qPM1SeOSsev7Ji6GHLzp1ERZhg 24IIIg+VifOgMgGo+9y6LifyGYlB3MUTGcPdZIg/PnzFg+kyY/Ody7ikZuOsCLjIPbyU F6pA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:13:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044282a6a2499404ccd20aec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:13:21 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044282a6a2499404ccd20aec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How do I write scripts? I've never tried it and dont know a thing about how the system works. On Oct 24, 2012 4:30 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:48 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > i've just linked the secodary feedback to my fader and its already fun! > Im > > not sure what you mean with the scripting function though. Can you run > it by > > me a little more? > > Here's a scenario: > > - You press a button that will launch such a "grid script" on the next > cycle cusp. > - You play a sound while the script is running- > - While playing you move your Secondary Feedback fader. > > Next time that part of the loop comes back a 16th note stacatto beat > from you latest played sound is part of the loop. The beating new part > smoothly replaces more or less underlying loop audio depending on how > you juggled the Secondary Feedback fader during the input phase. > > Hope this example shows more what I mean. I often use these type of > "grid scripts" with plain noise input to crate "hi-hat patterns", but > the musical application options are of course endless. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --f46d044282a6a2499404ccd20aec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How do I write scripts? I've never tried it and dont know a thing ab= out how the system works.

On Oct 24, 2012 4:30 AM, "Per Boysen" = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrot= e:
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:48 AM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
> i've just linked the secodary feedback to my fader and its already= fun! Im
> not sure what you mean with the scripting function though. Can you run= it by
> me a little more?

Here's a scenario:

- You press a button that will launch such a "grid script" on the= next
cycle cusp.
- You play a sound while the script is running-
- While playing you move your Secondary Feedback fader.

Next time that part of the loop comes back a 16th note stacatto beat
from you latest played sound is part of the loop. The beating new part
smoothly replaces more or less underlying loop audio depending on how
you juggled the Secondary Feedback fader during the input phase.

Hope this example shows more what I mean. I often use these type of
"grid scripts" with plain noise input to crate "hi-hat patte= rns", but
the musical application options are of course endless.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen

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Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=q0ageE3+cH0wXOGir+X+TG10OQ0+5/R7fk4+mhFQfgc=; b=YKN1PM9kXIUTO9LeVnQHGhnxtCIFPZ2nDHPxWcsowxHPqPuMQF25HYmkglFLtueUwZ 9DABp1Jr6GgobdFphVxESIxcg/2d0YP9Sl46NXpGMdCESiiWKlgP6t6QCZAoJVkRMj8V fnAh3dD7QFMjGm5Fj1QxMunZtE5bZ6OdzP4sBiod8Cwz9YPCSdcu2kXjeq0o4WpowMxd WAt70eD1gaSRAaUaauc5ulVUW8Pz7xTKlpZnIGfBnAgzPhsp7kakFHxsNSH1615SCfgz mGTqZrOZ9Qt6LHRn4CZG8sXPyJmWO7uiLFlaw3oBOJZfIhoEA198W9Yxk0gZVfoJlkiX +wAQ== From: Simeon Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--866784961 Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:16:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <55740C30-62AF-462E-A9D0-71D9847C2083@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <74F77F2B-C86A-4B49-BE93-5168DA87C214@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:16:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--866784961 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii might be worth visiting the scripting section on the mobius forum to get = some ideas. check out the manual on how to load them http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3D1 http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation2/documentation.html sim On 24 Oct 2012, at 19:13, kay'lon rushing wrote: > How do I write scripts? I've never tried it and dont know a thing = about how the system works. >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--866784961 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
might be worth visiting the scripting section on the mobius forum to get some ideas. check out the manual on how to load them



sim

On 24 Oct 2012, at 19:13, kay'lon rushing wrote:

How do I write scripts? I've never tried it and dont know a thing about how the system works.


--Apple-Mail-1--866784961-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 18:33:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9401A183464; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=/IFmYyVYf4OOr2Zeyp6wcNa6WreQpdow+XCEjxPSqBU=; b=LWHIWKwdt7yPG55iM6YAHtXREBkRsKDnzBmse6mHcbVmJJ2EITKynVr65kLrErJW32 s4OZ4qAbWIsU2HKMVTdgKX3L6l+715JnQSy6pKf1WudAkCWkaNN8DThehKC4x4oHpXM9 OV54j2dtVlaMCYMca7W5cZfMmZ3k1Xy7xhQrfXJN6OfZMjsRbhbenxFuZyM0Q86dKoJw N8+EaCHKSOJIc1wDafjR+bjD7IL9VkoWbBvKSUiLGobIsOBsRNOe4dmVt9kKmVllv9Y7 SnbGT8UKtbMgSKtJSuxBZVX2x8hwL0Uugzr5BpCRdISG/xNYggHvAZONx5YTJB2XWPq0 IpRA== Subject: New polymetric looping track From: F_Anile Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) Message-Id: <2E846E76-060B-4BE2-A6BA-8D021A7404DE@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:33:26 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight list Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi all,=20 I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on the Facebook L= D page a week ago or so, in case anyone has missed it (...and is interested)= http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/mysterious-counterpoint-draft Hope to come back in Santa Cruz in the next years to perform this music one d= ay as my list of looping compositions are growing and growing. It was nice to read all your thoughts about the loopfest and see the videos (= great Bill, as usual...). Cheers=20 -Fabio From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 18:44:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E88CC183461; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=wlsOUtA5WweW+JorZqmxlR4zzSfJDrxgO3j3WfGPki8=; b=We03sikXEZYdoDa7wtWZshYD0GrFAbMLm7IdOiIGKmLZTc6bUtlzGOsjKQP31ocgJ5 lKf1OStPtIueFTqK0z7ePDbO9VYNevF2l7ePwPmgreab69vHMAXa040rKUqqHM/q4lGt 6g7shGqJbVBP0JC6hlfpjR/wM7bf3NEFNOaqkgHUJiiPHlpQ23tjESVkVD50F+99RThb BmJs/cs9W1OcogR5HB5b17AMWJm9yX/pNLmo3e9HdMSwt6ehNiJh8CXqAu+Gp8VHUIwO 66n36qysE85rpYriFFdZKhag4wlhhF74JX8288ibILBKsWs3F5cUQ+BLexos2jlOko9C P75Q== Message-ID: <508836F0.2040905@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:44:00 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030304080900090005090804" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:44:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030304080900090005090804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not the ones you did mention, but: 1. The Zoom 1201 has a proper Vocoder (albeit with very few tweaking options), and it's dead cheap. Rick Walker uses one as his secret niceprice weapon (and has removed the description on the knobs in front so it becomes an aleatoric machine ;) 2. I'm repeating myself here, but the Nord Modular series also has a nice (and highly configurable) vocoder. Thanks for that Czukay recommendation, and I need to try that "carrier/analyze with delay in between" trick. What do you use it on? Melodies, drums, whole mixes? (Well then again, I can find out myself ;) Rainer > >I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) > > --------------030304080900090005090804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Not the ones you did mention, but:

1.  The Zoom 1201 has a proper Vocoder (albeit with very few tweaking options), and it's dead cheap. Rick Walker uses one as his secret niceprice weapon (and has removed the description on the knobs in front so it becomes an aleatoric machine ;)
2. I'm repeating myself here, but the Nord Modular series also has a nice (and highly configurable) vocoder.

Thanks for that Czukay recommendation, and I need to try that "carrier/analyze with delay in between" trick. What do you use it on? Melodies, drums, whole mixes? (Well then again, I can find out myself ;)

            Rainer

>I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins)


--------------030304080900090005090804-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 19:49:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5C2D183473; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Introduction and invitation In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF8037D1C52083_1D10_6DD58_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37105-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF8037D1C2BF22-1D10-1CC3C@webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [68.162.173.208] Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:49:31 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1351108171; bh=gs5kC7y+AHzikhYZ1cXIf6UQJoP85gOmydUEDbf5o6Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VIIrlXhBRN4WKGNDIqPENLdYyXGMLv2f3gHLkJa9RuaD0FrxVuKUyAaGAZ90tEN1d ML5QpX9Ij89EMeuBRpBqr/a8oDf3bw8Q/p7tE2BXM6yMzkLZfer3+jKgxJRUL/gXH6 9PspbTFlTSkhOs+QOPdrxa1JQcHkWiRwbGlvrslE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:345156896:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33895088464b6d60 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:49:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF8037D1C52083_1D10_6DD58_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. = You are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at http://www.youtube.com= /user/Apreleva very nice!!!!!.....got me dancin'! =20 ----------MB_8CF8037D1C52083_1D10_6DD58_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
My= name is Alisa Apreleva, I am a Russian singer-cellist-(and-now)-looper. Yo= u are welcome to watch some snippets of my work at = http:= //www.youtube.com/user/Apreleva



very nice!!!!!.....got me dancin'!
 ----------MB_8CF8037D1C52083_1D10_6DD58_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 20:13:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58217183473; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50884BDC.2020105@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:13:16 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Z CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia References: <1D1BBBCD-797C-4A9D-8683-6B339220758A@zzz.ch> In-Reply-To: <1D1BBBCD-797C-4A9D-8683-6B339220758A@zzz.ch> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020107080000040604050309" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:13:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020107080000040604050309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/24/12 9:55 AM, Z wrote: > I definitely think there could be a venue in Geneva Switzerland too..;) Philipp Zurcher, from Berne, was talking to me about looking into doing something in Switzerland. Perhaps you guys could have a conversation off line. Write me off lineif you'd like his e-mail address. I have a good friend in Zurich who also said she'd help me to get a looping gig there the next time I come. I know that Bernhard Wagner, who produced the wonderful 2005 European Live Looping Festival in Zurich, still lives there, as well. Rick Walker --------------020107080000040604050309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 10/24/12 9:55 AM, Z wrote:
I definitely think there could be a venue in Geneva Switzerland too.. ;)
Philipp Zurcher, from Berne,  was talking to me about looking into
doing something in Switzerland.   Perhaps you guys could
have a conversation off line.

Write me off line if you'd like his e-mail address.
I have a good friend in Zurich who also said she'd help me to get a looping
gig there the next time I come.  I know that Bernhard Wagner, who produced the
wonderful 2005 European Live Looping Festival in Zurich, still lives there, as well.

Rick Walker
 --------------020107080000040604050309-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 20:25:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87CC7183463; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=F7ISlzjGMmRnrdx5O0z9lxpr4yS6PGMxYkIUqKNr0xU=; b=RJRrlx2LFfQFGQykidS+ci7UnV6ikpY7u+3xwuzSNJzvGio4/jvqEMG+eNTFPiUNmZ em630T0iCCjtpeLY/lOLqNvOSKZERdnfTlND6O3srd4uZYSUAp61Vh9uyroNK8WYQD3F AwU9hZLp7oUxO8/VFMkrC6VdkGoDDOymqWrysTod56vQw6yAWplfUyaPNkMe+Jrut+eE yUlzDIJBa2Pg9kmnC8yOdxMY+33X9Wik6jZBBZYANIUepoxSRCFIw0kLKA0RItjwpF1H 05yTE6B6hGoFIavcajscBPkIWfQkKyyQMudXmmAuX8/f/A718GSUAZBIaL6pJ2FZPBpf PVsw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <508836F0.2040905@googlemail.com> References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> <508836F0.2040905@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:25:05 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0Kvf5E9ZF9-jVFApQilQPDN_Ihk Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603e960558c504ccd3e37e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603e960558c504ccd3e37e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to mention that I have quite a few vocoders in various guises, probably the best is in my Korg MS2000R rack mount synth. Im guessing its the same as in the micro korg, which I also have, sounds very simerlar, but with different synth engines as the musical part its still sounds diffferent. When you say "proper" do you man 2 inputs? I also have a vocoder section in the Roland EF303... and thats very warm (but unintelligible with voice) No I was wondering about the Electro Harmonix cos A) they are small and B) EH stuff is usually... er different... Juts looking for a small footprint really. NOT another rack mount, though if a Roland SVX (or whatever its called) came my way, I=B4d prob reorganise the rack!!! One day I will by back the Korg VC10, I cant remember if it was any good, but it started my love for them. In answer to how I use it, well actually I have used it in a variety of ways. Once I used to just have the 2 inputs patched to to send on my desk, so send anything to anywhere kind of danger... Recently Ive been using drum machine as the source and synth as the carrier.. but Ive also put a feed from both EDPs into each input (this is on the Korg MS2000 By the way)... So you get 1 loop, another loop, and a loop that is made from the pitch of one loop and the rhythm of the other... Im not a huge fan of the talking synth sound, although the Czukay piece is wonderful, and cant crit O Superman. M On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > Not the ones you did mention, but: > > 1. The Zoom 1201 has a proper Vocoder (albeit with very few tweaking > options), and it's dead cheap. Rick Walker uses one as his secret nicepri= ce > weapon (and has removed the description on the knobs in front so it becom= es > an aleatoric machine ;) > 2. I'm repeating myself here, but the Nord Modular series also has a nice > (and highly configurable) vocoder. > > Thanks for that Czukay recommendation, and I need to try that > "carrier/analyze with delay in between" trick. What do you use it on? > Melodies, drums, whole mixes? (Well then again, I can find out myself ;) > > Rainer > > >I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) >> > > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b603e960558c504ccd3e37e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to mention that I have quite a few vocoders in various guises, proba= bly the best is in my Korg MS2000R rack mount synth. Im guessing its the sa= me as in the micro korg, which I also have, sounds very simerlar, but with = different synth engines as the musical part its still sounds diffferent.
When you say "proper" do you man 2 inputs? I also have a voco= der section in the Roland EF303... and thats very warm (but unintelligible = with voice)

No I was wondering about the Electro Harmonix cos A) the= y are small and B) EH stuff is usually... er different... Juts looking for = a small footprint really. NOT another rack mount, though if a Roland SVX (o= r whatever its called) came my way, I=B4d prob reorganise the rack!!!

One day I will by back the Korg VC10, I cant remember if it was any goo= d, but it started my love for them.

In answer to how I use it, well = actually I have used it in a variety of ways. Once I used to just have the = 2 inputs patched to to send on my desk, so send anything to anywhere kind o= f danger...
Recently Ive been using drum machine as the source and synth as the carrier= .. but Ive also put a feed from both EDPs into each input (this is on the K= org MS2000 By the way)...

So you get 1 loop, another loop, and a lo= op that is made from the pitch of one loop and the rhythm of the other...
Im not a huge fan of the talking synth sound, although the Czukay piece= is wonderful, and cant crit O Superman.

M


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar St= raschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Not the ones you did mention, but:

1.=A0 The Zoom 1201 has a proper Vocoder (albeit with very few tweaking options), and it's dead cheap. Rick Walker uses one as his secret niceprice weapon (and has removed the description on the knobs in front so it becomes an aleatoric machine ;)
2. I'm repeating myself here, but the Nord Modular series also ha= s a nice (and highly configurable) vocoder.

Thanks for that Czukay recommendation, and I need to try that "carrier/analyze with delay in between" trick. What do you = use it on? Melodies, drums, whole mixes? (Well then again, I can find out myself ;)

=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 Rainer

>I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins)





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--047d7b603e960558c504ccd3e37e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 23:20:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3629C183463; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xAT9YJfHmUoB52t0SXO78gU59XiXNn3KkwLq2G384w0=; b=B5VycMRAXwhirT9UhCAnEP4afd1gQxXtshxY0ORP8IrBavlo3Rv1P6wxtBQCJQaNYE iTY/KGj+oMKcEPT8I2JVQP1bUU0osjlBn7nipGx3LNEySKHyDY2rvt+rxFpRQ6WKuqXk tMCnKmwaD6+N2cjSspBfsEjKY96TYbfxK/yqXyGWNkBhE3BaoZWQd6BX2CA94+6+ekgO XFgu5ceyHfevay7B/800TAi9x5fDeWL/DZczZDKF6bTQ1Hflp5w+wEpvskyDHUCQEP5O qwWnpkU+yPzwvwi52Q1q9TBBaaF2Sumrj4rdoEpYSxY0A2Fl7aDWqtRO25nwTOzsDNVk JBOw== Message-ID: <508877D1.6060708@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:20:49 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> <508836F0.2040905@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Am 24.10.2012 22:25, schrieb mark francombe: > When you say "proper" do you man 2 inputs? I also have a vocoder > section in the Roland EF303... and thats very warm (but unintelligible > with voice) When I say "proper" I mean it works well with all kinds of sources. I mean "2 inputs" when I say "vocoder" ;). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 23:55:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 604BB183464; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=S2lw7hDeUMox0V/hz5ArHeUiGhsrjM3YGX/ioln+1Dc=; b=Kb5y6HQIm1tjiXgkZbIDkzZ8jI6m7I+f/ltNHxgp21fz2+Jy8AhgZBVJDQ9tBoXtKF K6elTbf4WpvVAnDYU8Gx7b6hsS8aZ1VC9Us0b96SvOVozNAst6b4p4PMjqeF1Pe8Hqio 8HawNIWa+UI5jMHqHoHtnTMpJiGxmb6IdOYlJ2kg88WRYWYQS7BdRslUKRNTpkH/T5dI i2gnDHLCqMFe0JfL1QR4nCMeIuMMOBXN4dN2qKrScwNA4X9BY9/HX1ramYeGmAzWiNB8 LlORBWgDn1bAy8B89FoQ+Inf9nUFpuCZqo6XUn6J0qa1VjJ1SZgeYs/K4eQyhPulmqAB aX6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2E846E76-060B-4BE2-A6BA-8D021A7404DE@gmail.com> References: <2E846E76-060B-4BE2-A6BA-8D021A7404DE@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:55:08 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New polymetric looping track From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb201cafc616404ccd6d0dd Resent-Message-ID: <_P4jeD.A.4J.c_HiQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:55:09 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb201cafc616404ccd6d0dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Now this I Like! Genius. Reminds me of Brandt Brauer Frick (Bhatti). Do checkout this German group. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:33 AM, F_Anile wrote: > Hi all, > I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on the Facebook > LD page a week ago or so, in case anyone has missed it (...and is > interested) > > http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/mysterious-counterpoint-draft > > Hope to come back in Santa Cruz in the next years to perform this music > one day as my list of looping compositions are growing and growing. > It was nice to read all your thoughts about the loopfest and see the > videos (great Bill, as usual...). > Cheers > > -Fabio > > > > --e89a8fb201cafc616404ccd6d0dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now this I Like! Genius. Reminds me of Brandt Brauer Frick (Bhatti). Do che= ckout this German group.

On Thu, Oct 25, = 2012 at 2:33 AM, F_Anile <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on the Facebo= ok =A0LD page a week ago or so, in case anyone has missed it (...and is int= erested)

http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/mysterious-counterpoint-= draft

Hope to come back in Santa Cruz in the next years to perform this music one= day as my list of looping compositions are growing and growing.
It was nice to read all your thoughts about the loopfest and see the videos= (great Bill, as usual...).
Cheers

-Fabio




--e89a8fb201cafc616404ccd6d0dd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 02:46:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B31A6183463; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--836148410 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Y2K12 set Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:46:46 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:46:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--836148410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey peeps, Here is my set from Sunday Night, I was tired from a long week of Y2K activity so I decided to relax and just improvise on the lap steel and hopefully coax Mandoman to jam with me, which he did on piece 3, though he is a bit under mixed in my Zoom camera's mics. enjoy Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEm0i1M4XUc&list=UUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93ivw&index=2&feature=plpp_video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR_uwcqEKNY&list=UUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93ivw&index=3&feature=plpp_video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vKU8RlbyxM&list=UUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93ivw&index=1&feature=plpp_video --Apple-Mail-8--836148410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey peeps,
 Here is my = set from Sunday Night, I was tired from a long week of Y2K activity so I = decided to relax and just improvise on the lap steel and hopefully coax = Mandoman to jam with me, which he did on piece 3,  though he is a = bit under mixed in my Zoom camera's = mics.
enjoy
 Bill


= --Apple-Mail-8--836148410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 03:27:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5FCB183461; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ircuS2URGWAu7p0heLY2ZWl7yF9Xnd2GouuEhEI7dwQ=; b=K0JbUk6+lW4TvzYbqWZZ3CqTCaQY3gHH2dUyGgoZgFqHoQDnvhl5TN++XZ81w3O373 FNHwWiDRAnqPU2S/Hzo9tyXu28bNM++NymZkXYEi8t+4NnbBuI1A5CUB+QFLVKhC4tCo AAKA/BKkV/YKviYsAqCTItojBG7EbLK12gY/SkfhgVny6d/tBKfX7AFeaTOqZPFrKQVt 0XOSyjcJuH2vJPVF/LqVtCHZiowzO6MaVrXwg8RlNWQn05cr06/gHMzSmNBGrus9J0kx utSkNJl9rYNwHxkR77NWFan4RpRvMVeHHEaO1oHQKc9mLewPt7Z6Kp7IjzHFL5+8oBA6 AxtQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:27:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2K12 set From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fb7eea413e104ccd9c933 Resent-Message-ID: <0ARPW.A.6LC.2GLiQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:27:50 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54fb7eea413e104ccd9c933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill excellent set. You were in quite in your 'zone'. Listening to these were followed due to YouTUbe autoplay to others from your channel and I particularly dig 'The Path You Walk', http://youtu.be/44yFDGjFexM, quite artful. I missed not seeing you guys this year. Won't go on and on but look fwd to next time. Jim On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > Hey peeps, > Here is my set from Sunday Night, I was tired from a long week of Y2K > activity so I decided to relax and just improvise on the lap steel and > hopefully coax Mandoman to jam with me, which he did on piece 3, though = he > is a bit under mixed in my Zoom camera's mics. > enjoy > Bill > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJEm0i1M4XUc&list=3DUUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93= ivw&index=3D2&feature=3Dplpp_video > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKR_uwcqEKNY&list=3DUUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93= ivw&index=3D3&feature=3Dplpp_video > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2vKU8RlbyxM&list=3DUUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93= ivw&index=3D1&feature=3Dplpp_video > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --bcaec54fb7eea413e104ccd9c933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill excellent set. =A0You were in quite in your 'zone'. =A0Listeni= ng to these were followed due to YouTUbe autoplay to others from your chann= el and I particularly dig 'The Path You Walk',=A0http://youtu.be/44yFDGjFexM, quite artful. =A0I m= issed not seeing you guys this year. =A0Won't go on and on but look fwd= to next time.

Jim

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 a= t 10:46 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wro= te:
Hey peep= s,
=A0Here is my set from Sunday Night, I was tired from a long week of= Y2K activity so I decided to relax and just improvise on the lap steel and= hopefully coax Mandoman to jam with me, which he did on piece 3, =A0though= he is a bit under mixed in my Zoom camera's mics.
enjoy
=A0Bill




--
-= -
jimgood= in.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive = minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--bcaec54fb7eea413e104ccd9c933-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 04:22:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A113C18345E; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=340BP2N9yAKWH6Hx6IKbY6+U3egpj+CT4d7FUC68mrU=; b=qo+xiSzuLr3uoNy9extRKTQaQh++uAI//IJ/WIs5CwhtRf2+KXmZuut3/DNpBc0fdh Hetnl1cHydjs0ry4KUl0B4erFwRPy3rSsYm19O8HdLdysVNI0uztEJKS8PLVSpcD+EuT 3mUmvHvIIvOUWspip7jbLUxsFHzY4yc9SCAB529HcMvkvW2HUbr+Wp3eXGSL9HUM/9Vu v0jVfpns16H1jtQ7dvSKT/NGnMAINxU2XePCUsgncZFbnyMiCf8CazO7L3YvOw5B0qPn Fc80FA9B+KEoZUmLvygIP8lAKxXtyJ5heJ9qRCtYjaOXazpyY8g6F5Q9VcH0ScKaHGWu z/Tg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:22:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2K12 set From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de006ee9947d04ccda8d87 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:22:44 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de006ee9947d04ccda8d87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So relaxing On Oct 24, 2012 7:46 PM, "William Walker" wrote: > Hey peeps, > Here is my set from Sunday Night, I was tired from a long week of Y2K > activity so I decided to relax and just improvise on the lap steel and > hopefully coax Mandoman to jam with me, which he did on piece 3, though he > is a bit under mixed in my Zoom camera's mics. > enjoy > Bill > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEm0i1M4XUc&list=UUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93ivw&index=2&feature=plpp_video > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR_uwcqEKNY&list=UUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93ivw&index=3&feature=plpp_video > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vKU8RlbyxM&list=UUDmdyAZwmuuyNNu5UF93ivw&index=1&feature=plpp_video > --0016e6de006ee9947d04ccda8d87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So relaxing

On Oct 24, 2012 7:46 PM, "William Walker&qu= ot; <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
--0016e6de006ee9947d04ccda8d87-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 05:11:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB984183460; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:11:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=MwUZlsj6eeyf1bE8hzGNnrvJtPAbEwYn9q+I2I1sqPk=; b=DUlw0c/HgCRYhGZvZkjg5IuBB2IzhpwpwZc11oYdmSe8gtZJ79R20c2ebUjI934CaM LspvovlQg87sDV+JG/DUYyLsE7QHnsICT2j7W3rETDxkxbvGIxxKibgy23XXsLoeM2SE J1UpMhDCIK+E5/EMstNOEEMSnRDH6oIAP9KZzWxtrpyzOHyDWu1W/4XQCsLyZAMZpVOL 1gz5muyyrsFEqWs2GFL4NraDKTSridZt0FL7S4MUSPtS/zzbyzYIApyBG/8VoFz+cY2Z qTLDnPOx4q/qVNJY6YVUTTN4XcqIJ4geQX3U4nFzpVo3NhQoTX4xvO5EpP5UJvmqQY3M tO3g== References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b670727a0100404ccdb3d79 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:11:51 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b670727a0100404ccdb3d79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pretty hot URL you got there Siobahn! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 24 Oct 2012, at 20:13, "siobahn@siobahn.com" wrote: A. A ----- Reply message ----- From: "Sergio Girardi" To: Subject: OT: Vocoders... Date: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 11:01 am As you know, the voice is 90% of my setup, so I am alsways looking for new ways of manipulating it and use it as an instrument to produce sounds more than as a way to comunicate meanings. A vocoder is on my list but unfortunately I have no budget. A guy told me that the vocoder in Ableton is very good and that I can control it with a midi controller so I stopped searching for a harware one. May I ask you why you need an hardware one? For the onld school vocodering which required an instrument plus voice? Will you play quitar while vocodering? I will not, so I was searching for a vocoder which can vocoder WITHOUT any additional instrument, just voice. I have found two: electro harmonix v256 (btw, I do not know the talk box but they have one called voice box which has got harmony generator too). and Tc Helicon VoiceTone Synth. I think you will have to look to this other one, expecially if you do not have other effects of them or other good megaphone / telephon( radio effect. Their ones are very good. And with that vocoder you have lot of options.. I find it much more interesting that the electro harmonix but personally if you have budget I would buy both. I will to, when I have money. > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200 > Subject: OT: Vocoders... > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) I have a few already, but am > looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3: > The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint > The V256 > and the Talk Box > ( maybe even one more???) > > Anyone have any experience with these units? > > I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old technique > for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) but wondering if > these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen says no.."the old > machines are walker", but that might just be a bit of the old > analog/digital, VHS/Betamax aurgument > > mark > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > --047d7b670727a0100404ccdb3d79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pretty hot URL you got there Sioba= hn!

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 24 Oct 201= 2, at 20:13, "siobahn@siobahn.c= om" <siobahn@siobahn.com= > wrote:

A. =A0A



----- Reply message ---= --
From: "Sergio Girardi" <simpliflying@gmail.com>
To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>=
Subject: OT: Vocoders...
Date: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 11:01 am

<= br>
As you know, the voice is 90% of my setup, so I am alsways looking for new = ways of manipulating it and use it as an instrument to produce sounds more = than as a way to comunicate meanings.
A vocoder is on my list but unfor= tunately I have no budget. A guy told me that the vocoder in Ableton is ver= y good and that I can control it with a midi controller so I stopped search= ing for a harware one. May I ask you why you need an hardware one? For the = onld school vocodering which required an instrument plus voice? Will you pl= ay quitar while vocodering?
I will not, so I was searching for a vocoder which can vocoder WITHOUT= any additional instrument, just voice.
I have found two:
electro harmonix v256 (btw, I do not know the talk box but they have one= called voice box which has got harmony generator too).
and Tc Helicon VoiceTone Synth.
I think you will have to loo= k to this other one, expecially if you do not have other effects of them or= other good megaphone / telephon( radio effect. Their ones are very good. A= nd with that vocoder you have lot of options..
I find it much more interesting that the electro harmonix but personal= ly if you have budget I would buy both.
I will to, when I have mo= ney.

> From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200
> Subject: OT: Vocoders...=
> To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> I'm researching Vocod= ers(not plugins) I have a few already, but am
> looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3:
= > The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint
> The V256
> and the= Talk Box
> ( maybe even one more???)
>
> Anyone have an= y experience with these units?
>
> I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old= technique
> for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) bu= t wondering if
> these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen = says no.."the old
> machines are walker", but that might just be a bit of the old
= > analog/digital, VHS/Betamax aurgument
>
> mark
> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
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--047d7b670727a0100404ccdb3d79-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 07:59:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CACB7183466; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7d42b758-7a35-4fee-b666-e13af704abed_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: New polymetric looping track Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:59:00 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2E846E76-060B-4BE2-A6BA-8D021A7404DE@gmail.com> References: <2E846E76-060B-4BE2-A6BA-8D021A7404DE@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2012 07:59:00.0229 (UTC) FILETIME=[9797EB50:01CDB286] Resent-Message-ID: <_n_N3C.A.YzE.IFPiQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:59:04 +0000 (UTC) --_7d42b758-7a35-4fee-b666-e13af704abed_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great track=2C intresting ideas perforeed in a very musical way.. well done= .=20 Anders > Subject: New polymetric looping track > From: eterogenus@gmail.com > Date: Wed=2C 24 Oct 2012 20:33:26 +0200 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi all=2C=20 > I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on the Facebook= LD page a week ago or so=2C in case anyone has missed it (...and is inter= ested) >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/mysterious-counterpoint-draft >=20 > Hope to come back in Santa Cruz in the next years to perform this music o= ne day as my list of looping compositions are growing and growing. > It was nice to read all your thoughts about the loopfest and see the vide= os (great Bill=2C as usual...). > Cheers=20 >=20 > -Fabio >=20 >=20 >=20 = --_7d42b758-7a35-4fee-b666-e13af704abed_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great track=2C intresting ideas perforeed in a very musical way.. well done= . =3B

Anders

>=3B Subject: New polymetric looping track
>=3B From: ete= rogenus@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 24 Oct 2012 20:33:26 +0200
>= =3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Hi all=2C =
>=3B I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on the= Facebook LD page a week ago or so=2C in case anyone has missed it (...and= is interested)
>=3B
>=3B http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/myste= rious-counterpoint-draft
>=3B
>=3B Hope to come back in Santa Cr= uz in the next years to perform this music one day as my list of looping co= mpositions are growing and growing.
>=3B It was nice to read all your = thoughts about the loopfest and see the videos (great Bill=2C as usual...).=
>=3B Cheers
>=3B
>=3B -Fabio
>=3B
>=3B
>= =3B
= --_7d42b758-7a35-4fee-b666-e13af704abed_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 10:06:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B860183463; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bfc646cb-fc62-46da-b42b-783b4966f20d_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.15.50] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: anders, do you have sync problems with the Octatrack? Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:05:58 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <2E846E76-060B-4BE2-A6BA-8D021A7404DE@gmail.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2012 10:05:58.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[545A4E70:01CDB298] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:06:00 +0000 (UTC) --_bfc646cb-fc62-46da-b42b-783b4966f20d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Anders!I sent you an email time ago=2C never got an answer=2C did you= receive it? I had to send the OT to repair=2C fader problem. And I still have no time t= o make music so=2C I am studying=2C reading forums=2C reading about midi=2C= and in the while I am getting a bit into DIY=2C the guys in Mutable Instru= ments forum are great. I have already my Shruthi-1 kit here and I will buil= d it as soon as I stop working. I will before train a bit by assembling som= e audio cables=2C then midi modding a monotribe=2C then building a nebuloph= one (very nice=2C little funny synth). So=2C I am reading of sync problems between Ableton and Octatrack.As far as= I understood=2C these problems comes from two causes:1) Ableton is general= ly known for its bad syncing2) the OT must be Master or the looper will not= work well with the timestretch algorythm (confirmed by the Elektron suppor= t)and=2C well=2C many people tell me that generally spaking it is always a = pain in the A.. to sync hardware and software. Even solutions like the Innerclock System and ACME ones are not working wel= l with Octatrack apparently=2C because they need Ableton as Master.David of= Innerclock was very kind and offered to borrow an Octatrack and do some mo= re tests. So=2C did you ever try to use the OT as looper=2C Master=2C synced with Abl= eton also used as looper (=3D not to launch prepared samples but to live re= cord)? Or with other software? Cheers From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: New polymetric looping track Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 07:59:00 +0000 Great track=2C intresting ideas perforeed in a very musical way.. well done= ..=20 Anders > Subject: New polymetric looping track > From: eterogenus@gmail.com > Date: Wed=2C 24 Oct 2012 20:33:26 +0200 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi all=2C=20 > I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on the Facebook= LD page a week ago or so=2C in case anyone has missed it (...and is inter= ested) >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/mysterious-counterpoint-draft >=20 > Hope to come back in Santa Cruz in the next years to perform this music o= ne day as my list of looping compositions are growing and growing. > It was nice to read all your thoughts about the loopfest and see the vide= os (great Bill=2C as usual...). > Cheers=20 >=20 > -Fabio >=20 >=20 >=20 = --_bfc646cb-fc62-46da-b42b-783b4966f20d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Anders!
I sent you an email time ago=2C never got an answer=2C di= d you receive it?

I had to send the OT to repair= =2C fader problem. And I still have no time to make music so=2C I am studyi= ng=2C reading forums=2C reading about midi=2C and in the while I am getting= a bit into DIY=2C the guys in Mutable Instruments forum are great. I have = already my Shruthi-1 kit here and I will build it as soon as I stop working= . I will before train a bit by assembling some audio cables=2C then midi mo= dding a monotribe=2C then building a nebulophone (very nice=2C little funny= synth).

So=2C I am reading of sync problems betwe= en Ableton and Octatrack.
As far as I understood=2C these problem= s comes from two causes:
1) Ableton is generally known for its ba= d syncing
2) the OT must be Master or the looper will not work we= ll with the timestretch algorythm (confirmed by the Elektron support)
=
and=2C well=2C many people tell me that generally spaking it is always= a pain in the A.. to sync hardware and software.

= Even solutions like the Innerclock System and ACME ones are not working wel= l with Octatrack apparently=2C because they need Ableton as Master.
David of Innerclock was very kind and offered to borrow an Octatrack and= do some more tests.

So=2C did you ever try to use= the OT as looper=2C Master=2C synced with Ableton also used as looper (=3D= not to launch prepared samples but to live record)? Or with other software= ?

Cheers

From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com=
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: New polymetric = looping track
Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 07:59:00 +0000

Great track=2C intresting ideas perforeed in a very musical way.. well done= .. =3B

Anders

>=3B Subject: New polymetric looping track
>=3B From:= eterogenus@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 24 Oct 2012 20:33:26 +0200
= >=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Hi all= =2C
>=3B I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on= the Facebook LD page a week ago or so=2C in case anyone has missed it (..= .and is interested)
>=3B
>=3B http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/m= ysterious-counterpoint-draft
>=3B
>=3B Hope to come back in Sant= a Cruz in the next years to perform this music one day as my list of loopin= g compositions are growing and growing.
>=3B It was nice to read all y= our thoughts about the loopfest and see the videos (great Bill=2C as usual.= ..).
>=3B Cheers
>=3B
>=3B -Fabio
>=3B
>=3B >=3B
= --_bfc646cb-fc62-46da-b42b-783b4966f20d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 10:50:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBE42183466; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=EI5jDNLMAY+9xZCbjs8e3k15QKlsDF2hRgr9EYaOeys=; b=fD2pM9Qm9KKYlnuUlfRcVMAiGGxrqj97tc8GFDm+OVPw+aMpRG8TB/8Vk9hCfqSAcB DNmv/wQVMo51ocWPysBqffokHOt5RZzxN29hTf8mXvVfkBIO4cXcRRkbIeSflV1gvB1s vufLe3puxkKNKV2ZmtsGVuWTTBTKtJ10hLTyb4S1GD5Q/3pDaBVL+atsNCMczPjrOd01 PJ5jrqw6T41Unw1/P/KBSdNh5Mi2cQUtlzH86rbSz2dIAPoX8VmbcU06Ta4QdXIXdx2g gep4mlVr9EGdjDMW5s9MpGu3AvJwU7mVxn2Xga/5hpKYsq1UGbV44XQYLsHMkbRFQy/3 AhOA== Subject: Re: New polymetric looping track References: <2E846E76-060B-4BE2-A6BA-8D021A7404DE@gmail.com> From: F_Anile Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-27F9F560-251B-477E-AE89-FC9F77CF1F0B X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1960E127-CB65-4273-AAB2-641F9493E7C5@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:50:42 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:50:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-27F9F560-251B-477E-AE89-FC9F77CF1F0B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thank you very much for your suggestion, Eib, I'll check their music ! -f Il giorno 25/ott/2012, alle ore 01:55, eib halimski h= a scritto: > Now this I Like! Genius. Reminds me of Brandt Brauer Frick (Bhatti). Do ch= eckout this German group. >=20 > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:33 AM, F_Anile wrote: > Hi all, > I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on the Facebook = LD page a week ago or so, in case anyone has missed it (...and is intereste= d) >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/mysterious-counterpoint-draft >=20 > Hope to come back in Santa Cruz in the next years to perform this music on= e day as my list of looping compositions are growing and growing. > It was nice to read all your thoughts about the loopfest and see the video= s (great Bill, as usual...). > Cheers >=20 > -Fabio >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-27F9F560-251B-477E-AE89-FC9F77CF1F0B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Thank you very much for your suggestion, Eib, I'll check their music !

-f



Il giorno 25/ott/2012, alle ore 01:55, eib halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> ha scritto:

Now this I Like! Genius. Reminds me of Brandt Brauer Frick (Bhatti). Do checkout this German group.

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:33 AM, F_Anile <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just want to share a new track of mine that I've posted on the Facebook  LD page a week ago or so, in case anyone has missed it (...and is interested)

http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/mysterious-counterpoint-draft

Hope to come back in Santa Cruz in the next years to perform this music one day as my list of looping compositions are growing and growing.
It was nice to read all your thoughts about the loopfest and see the videos (great Bill, as usual...).
Cheers

-Fabio




--Apple-Mail-27F9F560-251B-477E-AE89-FC9F77CF1F0B-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 12:12:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C91C3183463; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SJXJbMmnNLtJRtqhm4AmOpkG0YDB7m7CYWa5yXDHdUA=; b=geQyGIaC1CzZCnUsq3INCc8cGJ4CdFFF8rxMDDB5DXqLOso0dAUVndaBXX6bBdOUw5 /8ASYEpmRgriAJmQaVcj4qyxr1u4ne5hyi0M1801lCp9vSFrl5Pkzr01HQRcweRN6Aa4 7NDFDN8Vr7S6c6lPkSrnwzVUpbzwqyDx+vfveQpRC7HPFi44Wsq5AArnYbwZIoyZfQ+J 4vjTK7kpck7+sL/ArbLayq9xSXoYwPRLRIMW/kE/HsBzC2sppcL68zKEiPV091KHZ2al 56TNr6a8DFW19WikUZs11UOimfY7obIyUVp2Xul5XNkFjE1Vad1S71RyPSwDdoba7jAl fbhg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:12:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What kind of techniques can I add to my set? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:12:35 +0000 (UTC) I'm a big fan of "dirtying it up" - finding ways to downplay or trying to work around the inherent predictability of loop-based performance. Post loop fx can make a big difference - especially on things like drum loops. If you get some sort of randomizing effect, or even an two sequential LFO effects that are not in time with the music (keeping the LFO depth fairly shallow), it can liven up the sound quite a bit. When I'm working with synthesizer sounds, I like using an external overdrive pedal, filter and volume pedal better. This could be simply because I'm not very good at synthesizers, but I find the sound gets more "alive" and the distortion is much more responsive to subtle changes in volume when it's external. Another big thing I try to do is get things "out of the grid" - having automated elements that are outside the loop, such as drones or cassette recorders. You can use a deck of cards to hold down keys on many keyboards. Currently my drum machine rig has 4 different loopers, specifically to get things happening at different intervals. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:49 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > Hello, I've been working with a rather basic looping technique which is to > just record each instrument to its own track and control track volume > independently with the faders on my axiom. What kind of manipulation > techniques can I add to my looping to make it more interesting? I use FL > Studio hosting mobius as a VST so Im kind of limited as far as syncing > options. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 12:47:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD726183466; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a276f561-5e83-4e0d-ad0f-ca7936694756_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.15.50] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: OT: Vocoders... Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:47:38 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> References: ,<-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2012 12:47:38.0755 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA3D4530:01CDB2AE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:47:39 +0000 (UTC) --_a276f561-5e83-4e0d-ad0f-ca7936694756_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark=2C did you have a look to the VoiceTone Synth?I like it much more then= the electro harmonix.But again as said=2C I would get both. If you do not = need harmoonies=2C I would get the v256=2C if you need harmonies=2C I would= get the voice box. From: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 07:11:46 +0200 Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Pretty hot URL you got there Siobahn! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 24 Oct 2012=2C at 20:13=2C "siobahn@siobahn.com" w= rote: A. A ----- Reply message ----- From: "Sergio Girardi" To: Subject: OT: Vocoders... Date: Wed=2C Oct 24=2C 2012 11:01 am As you know=2C the voice is 90% of my setup=2C so I am alsways looking for = new ways of manipulating it and use it as an instrument to produce sounds m= ore than as a way to comunicate meanings.A vocoder is on my list but unfort= unately I have no budget. A guy told me that the vocoder in Ableton is very= good and that I can control it with a midi controller so I stopped searchi= ng for a harware one. May I ask you why you need an hardware one? For the o= nld school vocodering which required an instrument plus voice? Will you pla= y quitar while vocodering? I will not=2C so I was searching for a vocoder which can vocoder WITHOUT an= y additional instrument=2C just voice.I have found two:electro harmonix v25= 6 (btw=2C I do not know the talk box but they have one called voice box whi= ch has got harmony generator too). and Tc Helicon VoiceTone Synth.I think you will have to look to this other = one=2C expecially if you do not have other effects of them or other good me= gaphone / telephon( radio effect. Their ones are very good. And with that v= ocoder you have lot of options.. I find it much more interesting that the electro harmonix but personally if= you have budget I would buy both.I will to=2C when I have money. > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Wed=2C 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200 > Subject: OT: Vocoders... > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) I have a few already=2C but am > looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3: > The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint > The V256 > and the Talk Box > ( maybe even one more???) >=20 > Anyone have any experience with these units? >=20 > I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old technique > for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) but wondering if > these smaller units are any good... Laurie Andersen says no.."the old > machines are walker"=2C but that might just be a bit of the old > analog/digital=2C VHS/Betamax aurgument >=20 > mark >=20 > Sent from my (advertisement removed) >=20 =20 = --_a276f561-5e83-4e0d-ad0f-ca7936694756_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark=2C did you have a look to the VoiceTone Synth?
I like it much more= then the electro harmonix.
But again as said=2C I would get both= . If you do not need harmoonies=2C I would get the v256=2C if you need harm= onies=2C I would get the voice box.

From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
= Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 07:11:46 +0200
Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders...
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Pretty hot URL you got = there Siobahn!

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On= 24 Oct 2012=2C at 20:13=2C "siobahn= @siobahn.com" <=3Bsiobahn@siob= ahn.com>=3B wrote:

A.  =3BA



----- Reply message -= ----
From: "Sergio Girardi" <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B
To: <=3Bloopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B=
Subject: OT: Vocoders...
Date: Wed=2C Oct 24=2C 2012 11:01 am


As you know=2C the voice is 90% of my setup=2C so I am alsways looking for = new ways of manipulating it and use it as an instrument to produce sounds m= ore than as a way to comunicate meanings.
A vocoder is on my list but u= nfortunately I have no budget. A guy told me that the vocoder in Ableton is= very good and that I can control it with a midi controller so I stopped se= arching for a harware one. May I ask you why you need an hardware one? For = the onld school vocodering which required an instrument plus voice? Will yo= u play quitar while vocodering?
I will not=2C so I was searching for a vocoder which can vocoder WITHO= UT any additional instrument=2C just voice.
I have found two:
electro harmonix v256 (btw=2C I do not know the talk box but they ha= ve one called voice box which has got harmony generator too).
and Tc Helicon VoiceTone Synth.
I think you will have to loo= k to this other one=2C expecially if you do not have other effects of them = or other good megaphone / telephon( radio effect. Their ones are very good.= And with that vocoder you have lot of options..
I find it much more interesting that the electro harmonix but personal= ly if you have budget I would buy both.
I will to=2C when I have = money.

>=3B From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200
>=3B Subject: OT: Vocod= ers...
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B I'm researchi= ng Vocoders(not plugins) I have a few already=2C but am
>=3B looking at the Electro harmonix pedals. They have no fewer than 3:>=3B The Iron Lung.. small stomp footprint
>=3B The V256
>=3B= and the Talk Box
>=3B ( maybe even one more???)
>=3B
>=3B = Anyone have any experience with these units?
>=3B
>=3B I'm doing a lot if processing if 2 inputs again... an old= technique
>=3B for me... I mean 80s old(Korg VC10- now sold... alas) = but wondering if
>=3B these smaller units are any good... Laurie Ander= sen says no.."the old
>=3B machines are walker"=2C but that might just be a bit of the old
&= gt=3B analog/digital=2C VHS/Betamax aurgument
>=3B
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= --_a276f561-5e83-4e0d-ad0f-ca7936694756_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 12:56:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5685418345C; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=h1N8CTKVNH1OgOpIjH+Dp2yXsj5gp9WY96I4mEwb6fA=; b=IxddN4VojH3HFDEE4zPqcbBA5McPMI4bPb/k9ewXLY4DmRxqcj/+wbB86CqTgtDWZS 1y3hci1zlrxb+Ektnkns/HTbgGaTGF6ear1LovVyZjzAYTHEWZ3sv6WJEGgugE9mcAAZ dsRzQLovT45Xlz1artxcH8zHbcH3CAYg9f8HLe23VCjBICDZBi4vwAGqNHRMFSSwmwPv OMTsGmTKKkQA/E7nGRjsx/8NeVQ27oe7LgpDWlSC5pFMeSbZFHEBGo4hN/TSXLZ2u1qK HJiHKtSZBSO07URyivhbTmLNYlzVlsyL6kLFPMhVxAUn/2mBwlK15iW1QZbwyQkP2apS OWdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:56:04 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > VoiceTone Synth? This was the second time you mentioned that in this thread, but I can't find it at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among "discontinued products"? Can it be that you are talking about some specific preset or functionality in some of their listed products? I suggested the VoiceLive Play or VoiceLive 2, but they are rather harmonizers than vocoders. Best wishes Per Boysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 12:58:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05C75183466; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aS6nz4N5fmE+LcaQA2OmSUTNYSKYihKVYHJIB8N3F3w=; b=lEkvbTmow4sZXpox+h1NQ7J/Lr3f1wOhg74PiyozUxP9SmmAQYqkuyN3U0vJKW5QaF X6HeMZLbt1SklVMR5fu/AM1Wq8gIPg260dRcTaqvo2Bxab/rIOj+iOwpbrzUpdbzH49T creJURwzeUARM66fmf2byPvA3Aj9YXq6nfgaNUx+DIKVk9dWS36Ytz2E0fKGdfb9SqWi R0v03xYxaAphFGrpZb0g9AOIuiVGvcbbHHw4LPfjM1FGzRi7ztibrbY6ZhZorGqRhYdQ XtkAZ37S8N1dhu4IkaZapuIFJs9FXy4ZN/Kon1kxYH3wY7SZkXmhgFeTjgubCGano3gz ADyQ== Message-ID: <50893775.5030303@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:58:29 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Really OT: any Waves LinEQ users here? questions about bit depth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:58:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a truly OT post, and it goes to possible Waves LinEQ plugin users in this knowledgeable community: I still have the Version 5 thingies of the LinEQ (both broadband and lowband), both of which are specified as "48bit double precision". I recently did a "effective bit depth" test in my audio editor of choice (WaveLab) which uses 32bit float format, and did the following: 1. create a 32bit float file with a sine wave peaking at -140dB (i.e. just above the 24bit bottomline). 2. put plugins under test directly behind it in the chain 3. pull the level up with WaveLab's 32bit float plugins to "normal listening levels". In a first test, it was confirmed that without a plugin under test, the signal chain in WaveLab worked as expected (i.e. a clear sine wave with apparent bit depth of 25bit came out). Now: a) using Waves LinEQ broadband (with dither set "off" obviously) and all bands on bypass, the result is seemingly identical (sounds like a clear sine, apparent bit depth 25). b) using Waves LinEQ lowband (with dither set to "off") and all bands on bypass, the result suffers from quantization distortion, the apparent bit depth is 10. Can any user of those things confirm this? Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 13:55:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17AD6183465; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5dc52045-d69b-4b88-8217-5632ef9f7219_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.15.50] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: OT: Vocoders... Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:55:20 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2012 13:55:20.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F63B930:01CDB2B8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:55:21 +0000 (UTC) --_5dc52045-d69b-4b88-8217-5632ef9f7219_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-synth/prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr= rrrrrrrrrrr:p > Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200 > Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 2:47 PM=2C Sergio Girardi wrote: > > VoiceTone Synth? >=20 >=20 > This was the second time you mentioned that in this thread=2C but I > can't find it at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among > "discontinued products"? 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= --_5dc52045-d69b-4b88-8217-5632ef9f7219_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 14:12:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C7BB183465; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=C1l0/eXYy1A2nj3iT9E25xkdsXRpIUBQ1+2nNP0/DEc=; b=lgh9j6lyigAFjAxSAAlWw/yKjiNXZnV9nxVamH6xj41+9Z9xe8nbmpnlnPJIkTodzN VCqMATaF+cF5m/3yzDSkLA2mCkKnwG8RzFTX6KXrQBAW701W13vR13vOLL8CJFw1u6HU KaeTPkowgPcK5OMWpcBGnZdEndvfgo1Ac+5l5obeZT39AFari4+6aBeoAnZEbkZQv7/q AhBvK4uHsiVSWDV/Y40oQsJkWB3X+myb7YRZ7YSDFDIs93cALRVFupxRjKrk/Ae0xhRY jA4hQq+duechD5dIFwduiFt67YmpTaUPbbuuvg79SbAt4aMR4d1e5ZtFdF2P+S4Fg2iH p+yA== Message-ID: <508948CF.5060404@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:12:31 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Am 24.10.12 09:34, schrieb mark francombe: > Best Vocoder album ever (and I heard lots) > > Holger Czukay, "On the way to the peak of normal" love it have it for a long time as well...;-) I had some hands on the vocoder of the rack version of the Korg Wavestation, and recently on VirSyn Matrix which I liked, as you could shuffle the analysis bands to different synthesis bands... There is a roundup for software vocoders on this site: http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/7-great-vocoder-plug-ins-513324 Is there a list of the vocoders you have or know already? Otherwise we always get this answer "oh I know this"...;-) Of course I would build my vocoder always myself in Max/MSP...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 14:18:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 724D4183466; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vxE1cWb4IBHvZxXGNbHRySG9LngXC9xr73RRw6zNEqE=; b=UHQptX5zkFZ/AxXCV3x6kwSizveCpg1A7fjyEJJW2W32T0y6lem/OgrfqKNFlK1Q7N cgEsP4yz93wj3A6rLxxCLNUR1bC63vbljj5Ac7yJfpIvxfDtFZxXGz57HffWdPyQqR7K NqdLdS+fyO8kPNTpHesDAkCJluTAMmEYp83dmSQBCvLEjAzJ9Ys8CIyBujq1PaTdZm9X vG2+e5XmnZBHidJrqx6vXAKrmalVUyt64RL/12vLaqO0DetgzByps1/rmlEwPpxTzLgb ACd2ump0wUsnGCQqI1o5yRVMukq5VRTqMHNAl95x5adQ3yGuW5ZA/txBTRGYew5ydjnH zIRg== Message-ID: <50894A3F.4000204@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:18:39 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia References: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <5077DBA8.5090603@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Am 12.10.12 10:58, schrieb Rick Walker: > Rick Walker: ................. I'm starting to think about coordinating > a summer of festivals in Berlin, Koln, Roma, Firenze, Milano, London, > Norwhich and Penarth to name those who have said they are "IN" and also > in Tokyo, Osaka, Singapore and possibly...See More As a hitchhiker I can go everywhere in Europe - count me in...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 14:23:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23CD5183473; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tristan Zand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DAEE1851-F878-41ED-9B94-8C6CA9A6422E" Subject: Re: COORDINATED Y2K13 LOOPFESTIVALS next summer in Europe, the UK, the US and Asia Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:23:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <50884BDC.2020105@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1D1BBBCD-797C-4A9D-8683-6B339220758A@zzz.ch> <50884BDC.2020105@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <25BDE019-E8B1-48B4-97E0-90F37A6A8AE5@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: <1wXkxD.A.ni.ttUiQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_DAEE1851-F878-41ED-9B94-8C6CA9A6422E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That would be great. I guess having one venue in the French part and = another in the German part of the country won't be a problem. But we = should probably coordinate a bit. I'm also going to contact friends' from http://www.cave12.org here, = they're having a new concert hall being built exclusively for = experimental music very soon, so that would definitely be a great place = to play imo. Cheers :) Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 24 oct. 2012, at 22:13, Rick Walker wrote: > On 10/24/12 9:55 AM, Z wrote: >> I definitely think there could be a venue in Geneva Switzerland too.. = ;) > Philipp Zurcher, from Berne, was talking to me about looking into=20 > doing something in Switzerland. Perhaps you guys could=20 > have a conversation off line.=20 >=20 > Write me off line if you'd like his e-mail address. > I have a good friend in Zurich who also said she'd help me to get a = looping=20 > gig there the next time I come. I know that Bernhard Wagner, who = produced the=20 > wonderful 2005 European Live Looping Festival in Zurich, still lives = there, as well. >=20 > Rick Walker --Apple-Mail=_DAEE1851-F878-41ED-9B94-8C6CA9A6422E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 That = would be great. I guess having one venue in the French part and another = in the German part of the country won't be a problem. But we should = probably coordinate a bit.
I'm also going to contact friends' from = http://www.cave12.org here, = they're having a new concert hall being built exclusively for = experimental music very soon, so that would definitely be a great place = to play imo.
Cheers
:)

On 24 oct. 2012, at 22:13, Rick Walker wrote:

=20 =20
On 10/24/12 9:55 AM, Z wrote:
I definitely think there could be a venue in Geneva =
Switzerland too.. ;)
Philipp Zurcher, from Berne,  was talking to me about looking into
doing something in Switzerland.   = Perhaps you guys could
have a conversation off line.

Write me off line if you'd like his = e-mail address.
I have a good friend in Zurich who also said she'd help me to get a looping
gig there the next time I come.  = I know that Bernhard Wagner, who produced the
wonderful 2005 European Live Looping Festival in Zurich, still lives there, as well.

Rick = Walker
=

= --Apple-Mail=_DAEE1851-F878-41ED-9B94-8C6CA9A6422E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 15:15:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7B30183463; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=H/t1xHFZrb57bLaD+hLD5oj5s8WmtgQgThMIHcbGWGg=; b=piQkVO0ekfHeM9xUsoPeow/Yu/iPZkrV381nuPRFPOLBzVmjgl+J0Hw8IiNNCUQpXX yjPsMx7pEJFUZNlzAIFpSsu/H85Gb81Jpz5ua4G9fhfIOpJ+eO8sKgWW/283SxBjyM0k yNtDAkiF7AvE+4iMAIYfpsJfK+iSOxyd0S/WYyx/5kFobXdi2zYgNUpJ9p8yc/XNryDQ a0R4B45QAp23UPrHWuFbV0tIVpExH9Dd+ba7YDmDaMqbwL/XRVCi0S9l95l8UqeR+tEL tDjh/44X8VQl83wRntFl6v7zMi6Fj96PDOp/NA87+wBcysfnqYL8M1a/5bp/1FyaO+y1 2kvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:15:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! Great synthy pitch correct sound, but it seems to be limited to monophonics. I already have that on the laptop (Evoc vocoder) and I'm looking for something that also reads a polyphonic audio input and applies vocoder voices in harmony. Per On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-synth/ > prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > :p > >> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200 >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... >> From: perboysen@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Sergio Girardi >> wrote: >> > VoiceTone Synth? >> >> >> This was the second time you mentioned that in this thread, but I >> can't find it at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among >> "discontinued products"? Can it be that you are talking about some >> specific preset or functionality in some of their listed products? >> >> I suggested the VoiceLive Play or VoiceLive 2, but they are rather >> harmonizers than vocoders. >> >> Best wishes >> Per Boysen >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 15:45:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AC6B183464; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2cc21ab6-bfde-4446-9568-7e1db13dfc4e_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.15.50] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: OT: Vocoders... Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:45:52 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid>,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2012 15:45:52.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0530470:01CDB2C7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:45:53 +0000 (UTC) --_2cc21ab6-bfde-4446-9568-7e1db13dfc4e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder vocodize = your voice according to the chord?I am not sure that this will do that=2C b= ut you can investigate: http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/vp-7_broch= ure.pdf Ser > Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 17:15:11 +0200 > Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Thanks! Great synthy pitch correct sound=2C but it seems to be limited > to monophonics. I already have that on the laptop (Evoc vocoder) and > I'm looking for something that also reads a polyphonic audio input and > applies vocoder voices in harmony. >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 > On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 3:55 PM=2C Sergio Girardi wrote: > > http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-synth/ > > prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > :p > > > >> Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200 > >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... > >> From: perboysen@gmail.com > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> > >> On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 2:47 PM=2C Sergio Girardi > >> wrote: > >> > VoiceTone Synth? > >> > >> > >> This was the second time you mentioned that in this thread=2C but I > >> can't find it at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among > >> "discontinued products"? Can it be that you are talking about some > >> specific preset or functionality in some of their listed products? > >> > >> I suggested the VoiceLive Play or VoiceLive 2=2C but they are rather > >> harmonizers than vocoders. > >> > >> Best wishes > >> Per Boysen > >> >=20 = --_2cc21ab6-bfde-4446-9568-7e1db13dfc4e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder vocodize = your voice according to the chord?
I am not sure that this will do that= =2C but you can investigate: =3Bhttp://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/vp= -7_brochure.pdf

Ser

>=3B Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 17:15:11 +02= 00
>=3B Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders...
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.c= om
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B T= hanks! Great synthy pitch correct sound=2C but it seems to be limited
&g= t=3B to monophonics. I already have that on the laptop (Evoc vocoder) and>=3B I'm looking for something that also reads a polyphonic audio input= and
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>=3B On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 3:55 PM=2C Serg= io Girardi <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B http:= //www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-synth/
>=3B >=3B prrrrrrrrrr= rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>=3B >=3B :p
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200
>=3B >=3B>=3B Su= bject: Re: OT: Vocoders...
>=3B >=3B>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com=
>=3B >=3B>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 2:47 PM=2C S= ergio Girardi <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B
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>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B VoiceTone Synth?
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B This was the second time you m= entioned that in this thread=2C but I
>=3B >=3B>=3B can't find it = at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among
>=3B >=3B>=3B "disc= ontinued products"? Can it be that you are talking about some
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>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I suggested the VoiceLive P= lay or VoiceLive 2=2C but they are rather
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>=3B >=3B>=3B Best wishes<= br>>=3B >=3B>=3B Per Boysen
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= --_2cc21ab6-bfde-4446-9568-7e1db13dfc4e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 16:09:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C8BF183463; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=cpom3y3lTjH6myaoDDMxud12RBFGlHWNiegCBo6iE4g=; b=sdLwwJDlW5BOdY0LCchy3f0mlN4YR7FX/0le4n5K4bBDTs5RBIHHJH05alDcn9td2U jN7jFrK2wzGGdziJJf3CY0Tc9w5wTaO1eaWIv2MxO4Nl9nKi2G8jKQPx1sg2MXjbZxuH uoWxrbc5E70a5xnN2bM9PRK+B9vW7bg6xJzBxVSXUzxcjpLkSWYJ5woGrqpneCdJ4n+f ZASRHyzHZd3iVJin5xZ4T9G4Z7lfrBoR0pnfLPw4XuFrJIVTyBwyDWz4OndS7m4Jpjg4 vK9KpHHFWThcZxG+pXXgvoRjh9MQgcFyfBWu9HmqJZEMF2blzsSg6tmKI+3lpv2Qdal2 jRSw== References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:09:30 +0200 Message-ID: <9023441586951265854@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 25 Oct 2012, at 17:45, Sergio Girardi wrote: > Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder vocodize your voice according to the chord? Well all keyboard Vocoders are polyphonic, It's kind of the point of their original purpose (discounting their original, original purpose of a telephone call scrambler in the Second World War) to emulate a choir. I actually had no idea there were such abominations as monophonic Vocoders in existence... guess its just for that auto-tune sound? BTW I didn't mention what devices I already knew about cos my question only related to the Electro Harmonix boxes, 'twas you guys that opened this up to any box that can sing! So far I have only seen terrible results from the TC Voice Live thingy, and what a nasty interface?? but is probably great as I trust them. but the EH Voice Box is looking VERY nice! nice and simple, with live tweakage possibilities, and seems to be very musical! I'm still digging tho... m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 16:34:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 046F4183465; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_68a18de9-2fcd-48a4-bd1f-c7d743df3a01_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.15.50] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: OT: Vocoders... Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:34:54 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9023441586951265854@unknownmsgid> References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid>, , ,,<9023441586951265854@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2012 16:34:54.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9FF2450:01CDB2CE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:34:55 +0000 (UTC) --_68a18de9-2fcd-48a4-bd1f-c7d743df3a01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The VoiceTone product I have have the best harmonies over ALL the Digitech = or Roland product I have tried. ANd I love their megaphone and telephone ef= fect.Said that=2C I am not really an expert so I can just talk for what I h= ad in my hands.I suppose the monophonic vocoders=2C if the VoiceTone is suc= h=2C are so because it is made for vocalist who do not play any instrument.= THis is true also for the V256. Both have an internal synth which generate= the vocoder synth part while you sing=2C even without any other instrument= .I like that=2C because I do not play any instrument. THe voice box is older and the vocoder function in it is more limited then = the v256 one=2C but luckily you can find there a place like thomann (30 day= s money back guarantee=2C you try it=2C and send back the one you do not li= ke).:) > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 18:09:30 +0200 > Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Sent from my (advertisement removed) >=20 > On 25 Oct 2012=2C at 17:45=2C Sergio Girardi wro= te: >=20 > > Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder vocod= ize your voice according to the chord? >=20 > Well all keyboard Vocoders are polyphonic=2C It's kind of the point of > their original purpose (discounting their original=2C original purpose > of a telephone call scrambler in the Second World War) to emulate a > choir. I actually had no idea there were such abominations as > monophonic Vocoders in existence... guess its just for that auto-tune > sound? >=20 > BTW I didn't mention what devices I already knew about cos my question > only related to the Electro Harmonix boxes=2C 'twas you guys that opened > this up to any box that can sing! >=20 > So far I have only seen terrible results from the TC Voice Live > thingy=2C and what a nasty interface?? but is probably great as I trust > them. > but the EH Voice Box is looking VERY nice! nice and simple=2C with live > tweakage possibilities=2C and seems to be very musical! >=20 > I'm still digging tho... >=20 > m >=20 = --_68a18de9-2fcd-48a4-bd1f-c7d743df3a01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The VoiceTone product I have have the best harmonies over ALL the Digitech = or Roland product I have tried. ANd I love their megaphone and telephone ef= fect.
Said that=2C I am not really an expert so I can just talk for wha= t I had in my hands.
I suppose the monophonic vocoders=2C if the = VoiceTone is such=2C are so because it is made for vocalist who do not play= any instrument. THis is true also for the V256. Both have an internal synt= h which generate the vocoder synth part while you sing=2C even without any = other instrument.
I like that=2C because I do not play any instru= ment.

THe voice box is older and the vocoder funct= ion in it is more limited then the v256 one=2C but luckily you can find the= re a place like thomann (30 days money back guarantee=2C you try it=2C and = send back the one you do not like).
:)

>=3B From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
>=3B Date= : Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 18:09:30 +0200
>=3B Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders...<= br>>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Sent= from my (advertisement removed)
>=3B
>=3B On 25 Oct 2012=2C at = 17:45=2C Sergio Girardi <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B=
>=3B >=3B Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and th= e vocoder vocodize your voice according to the chord?
>=3B
>=3B = Well all keyboard Vocoders are polyphonic=2C It's kind of the point of
&= gt=3B their original purpose (discounting their original=2C original purpos= e
>=3B of a telephone call scrambler in the Second World War) to emula= te a
>=3B choir. I actually had no idea there were such abominations a= s
>=3B monophonic Vocoders in existence... guess its just for that aut= o-tune
>=3B sound?
>=3B
>=3B BTW I didn't mention what devi= ces I already knew about cos my question
>=3B only related to the Elec= tro Harmonix boxes=2C 'twas you guys that opened
>=3B this up to any b= ox that can sing!
>=3B
>=3B So far I have only seen terrible res= ults from the TC Voice Live
>=3B thingy=2C and what a nasty interface?= ? but is probably great as I trust
>=3B them.
>=3B but the EH Vo= ice Box is looking VERY nice! nice and simple=2C with live
>=3B tweaka= ge possibilities=2C and seems to be very musical!
>=3B
>=3B I'm = still digging tho...
>=3B
>=3B m
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=
= --_68a18de9-2fcd-48a4-bd1f-c7d743df3a01_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 16:51:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18BE9183465; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8ru3+MDTcEBbaSG+JeWWGPAoX8H7b9r0EnUq4PnwIpc=; b=kmov2/o0UOmy4bto7LWNBHfC07OZlJaFaurijw2bjdnAiZ87LjupVKEh/AHOjURpca kDmSb0ysLuqJGMzVE8ifw+Cn6Pgcdct3vaG/h0B6k1j8p0TN8AtgKqAZfnIIMF7ywBJc wOZgTm5Yw2xTjgaau42ZbzUqM3EeiUy5PBp4H2+e6WUcvHd+KNEWtAkyfcreYMLqrhnt dwgax64MsqTKqzqtJoYDTQ2litOu54aXrrur/iaMjrUoaWF2/DM7y3InkEl7whNOJPnB ECqfe3k5ZDQic1tXcXu9kV8opXevG2ugdOFJ1sDRBRhPp72WuDkaUUVgsTPeTmrOLHcY paMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:51:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:51:11 +0000 (UTC) No. I mean what I wrote: A unite that reads a polyphonic audio (control) input (not MIDI) and applies it to harmony additions to whatever noise you make in the mic. Like the TC Helicon boxes. Per On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder vocodize > your voice according to the chord? > I am not sure that this will do that, but you can investigate: > http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/vp-7_brochure.pdf > > Ser > >> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:15:11 +0200 >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... >> From: perboysen@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Thanks! Great synthy pitch correct sound, but it seems to be limited >> to monophonics. I already have that on the laptop (Evoc vocoder) and >> I'm looking for something that also reads a polyphonic audio input and >> applies vocoder voices in harmony. >> >> Per >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Sergio Girardi >> wrote: >> > http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-synth/ >> > prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >> > :p >> > >> >> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200 >> >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... >> >> From: perboysen@gmail.com >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Sergio Girardi >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > VoiceTone Synth? >> >> >> >> >> >> This was the second time you mentioned that in this thread, but I >> >> can't find it at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among >> >> "discontinued products"? Can it be that you are talking about some >> >> specific preset or functionality in some of their listed products? >> >> >> >> I suggested the VoiceLive Play or VoiceLive 2, but they are rather >> >> harmonizers than vocoders. >> >> >> >> Best wishes >> >> Per Boysen >> >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 16:56:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E8F7183465; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8c87a325-7815-4bb6-b124-f8f0ff891fb1_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.15.50] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: OT: Vocoders... Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:56:45 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid>,,,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2012 16:56:45.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[B70D8D00:01CDB2D1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:56:47 +0000 (UTC) --_8c87a325-7815-4bb6-b124-f8f0ff891fb1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bah=2C Per=2C you are talking with a newbie=2C you should know that the dif= ference between what you say and what I understand that you have said may b= e bigger than it should.:) > Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 18:51:10 +0200 > Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > No. I mean what I wrote: A unite that reads a polyphonic audio > (control) input (not MIDI) and applies it to harmony additions to > whatever noise you make in the mic. Like the TC Helicon boxes. >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 > On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 5:45 PM=2C Sergio Girardi wrote: > > Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder vocod= ize > > your voice according to the chord? > > I am not sure that this will do that=2C but you can investigate: > > http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/vp-7_brochure.pdf > > > > Ser > > > >> Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 17:15:11 +0200 > >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... > >> From: perboysen@gmail.com > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> > >> Thanks! Great synthy pitch correct sound=2C but it seems to be limited > >> to monophonics. I already have that on the laptop (Evoc vocoder) and > >> I'm looking for something that also reads a polyphonic audio input and > >> applies vocoder voices in harmony. > >> > >> Per > >> > >> > >> On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 3:55 PM=2C Sergio Girardi > >> wrote: > >> > http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-synth/ > >> > prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > >> > :p > >> > > >> >> Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200 > >> >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... > >> >> From: perboysen@gmail.com > >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> >> > >> >> On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 2:47 PM=2C Sergio Girardi > >> >> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > VoiceTone Synth? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> This was the second time you mentioned that in this thread=2C but I > >> >> can't find it at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among > >> >> "discontinued products"? Can it be that you are talking about some > >> >> specific preset or functionality in some of their listed products? > >> >> > >> >> I suggested the VoiceLive Play or VoiceLive 2=2C but they are rathe= r > >> >> harmonizers than vocoders. > >> >> > >> >> Best wishes > >> >> Per Boysen > >> >> > >> >=20 = --_8c87a325-7815-4bb6-b124-f8f0ff891fb1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bah=2C Per=2C you are talking with a newbie=2C you should know that the dif= ference between what you say and what I understand that you have said may b= e bigger than it should.
:)

>=3B Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 2012 18:51:10 +0200
>=3B Subj= ect: Re: OT: Vocoders...
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B No. I mean what I = wrote: A unite that reads a polyphonic audio
>=3B (control) input (not= MIDI) and applies it to harmony additions to
>=3B whatever noise you = make in the mic. Like the TC Helicon boxes.
>=3B
>=3B Per
>= =3B
>=3B
>=3B On Thu=2C Oct 25=2C 2012 at 5:45 PM=2C Sergio Gir= ardi <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B Mmm. You me= an that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder vocodize
>=3B &= gt=3B your voice according to the chord?
>=3B >=3B I am not sure tha= t this will do that=2C but you can investigate:
>=3B >=3B http://cms= .rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/vp-7_brochure.pdf
>=3B >=3B
>=3B= >=3B Ser
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Date: Thu=2C 25 Oct 201= 2 17:15:11 +0200
>=3B >=3B>=3B Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders...
>= =3B >=3B>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B >=3B>=3B To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>= =3B Thanks! Great synthy pitch correct sound=2C but it seems to be limited<= br>>=3B >=3B>=3B to monophonics. I already have that on the laptop (E= voc vocoder) and
>=3B >=3B>=3B I'm looking for something that also= reads a polyphonic audio input and
>=3B >=3B>=3B applies vocoder = voices in harmony.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
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= --_8c87a325-7815-4bb6-b124-f8f0ff891fb1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 17:12:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3C22183465; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7nIYC8mUbJClR3a7MHt5xrjza15xCgciJbWiz0sId4c=; b=nRQrTPRyyG16i8U4HiFGJNFvcgN2fJjC0mr+t5fnhyH4HxAIGKr31TYtAHjLPdb6KG gc3q+JCXXns8k5akgKJMB3qQHAy6pG51cOfm0C7LGyrI6OCGxhfJxBvXziAK9BeTLqA7 4Ca+1PzcZnGV4MNYdPYdwcEvaxX9Nl711ExCPhgYFVz8aHEfS3qYVOV9nd1lGRRKxZeR crf70UH+zbdD1Rqlvb77pJMctsRuro+hUQ90WTkAWEZOINuJ4nM56GSSn3U3AorqRU9F fPMOG72kE3+zC2oxIB28TcqIFejXy6fv4g0LGbW9/mOz2NRixn//NxI2Tegk1uC3hnnr lWvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:12:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, no offense meant! :-) Just wondering if someone happens to know some product out there that works like the Vocalive but can sound more "vocodish" even with chords - and picking up the chords from an audio input typically coming from a guitar etc. Per On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > Bah, Per, you are talking with a newbie, you should know that the difference > between what you say and what I understand that you have said may be bigger > than it should. > :) > >> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:51:10 +0200 > >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... >> From: perboysen@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> No. I mean what I wrote: A unite that reads a polyphonic audio >> (control) input (not MIDI) and applies it to harmony additions to >> whatever noise you make in the mic. Like the TC Helicon boxes. >> >> Per >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Sergio Girardi >> wrote: >> > Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder >> > vocodize >> > your voice according to the chord? >> > I am not sure that this will do that, but you can investigate: >> > http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/vp-7_brochure.pdf >> > >> > Ser >> > >> >> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:15:11 +0200 >> >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... >> >> From: perboysen@gmail.com >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> >> Thanks! Great synthy pitch correct sound, but it seems to be limited >> >> to monophonics. I already have that on the laptop (Evoc vocoder) and >> >> I'm looking for something that also reads a polyphonic audio input and >> >> applies vocoder voices in harmony. >> >> >> >> Per >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Sergio Girardi >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-synth/ >> >> > prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >> >> > :p >> >> > >> >> >> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200 >> >> >> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... >> >> >> From: perboysen@gmail.com >> >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Sergio Girardi >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > VoiceTone Synth? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This was the second time you mentioned that in this thread, but I >> >> >> can't find it at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among >> >> >> "discontinued products"? Can it be that you are talking about some >> >> >> specific preset or functionality in some of their listed products? >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggested the VoiceLive Play or VoiceLive 2, but they are rather >> >> >> harmonizers than vocoders. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best wishes >> >> >> Per Boysen >> >> >> >> >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 21:12:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BACE7183463; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MSGW1w5W734Lyf1k86N5DiJSGkY5VUYYT3cLZr2twjs=; b=YgjZ3udWMDItKchv21tr28/Jz8ROVH7NycDfb7t5FA/lWLqBq0ste1dMu8YmnXvZ1J tsH+r0cHRhGHryn4rfi48kK9dwE2hu15RpN8qq1Cld6f00ctHsUHxEVL2QEoN0YuBPVs OVEqv55UUoVR7QTfH/rLUThVG6tRCYDRkVXCFwW+VzTfPpXBmC8+zUU0WWuba4myZe1D cse/w5aHw5XDtwOBSKKE+gGxfxSAP+1BQYuunkCvJ2hkoiWNg4ReURMmzMue7mls2kpI +EwuGY6wcIbXE9J5TJXlMagRm9oQnXshSquH4/3YK6iEJMfjwHxkPEDGkVwAICGzsxEl 7jYg== Message-ID: <5089AB34.8060507@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:12:20 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <7Gp7RC.A.X6E.4saiQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:12:24 +0000 (UTC) The Vocoder part of the VoiceTone Synth has an "Inst"(rument) mode where it acts like a traditional vocoder - you feed your audio signal as carrier through "Inst" input and modulate it with your voice using "Mic" input. The audio signal maybe polyphonic - you will have harmony then. This harmony will not be as good as from a (decent) harmonizer (I'm talking about intelligible human voice and choir effect), but this heavily depends on the harmonic content of the carrier. To get more freedom you need perhaps both vocoder and harmonizer. If I'm not mistaken this is not available in a single TC-Helicon device. Michał > No. I mean what I wrote: A unite that reads a polyphonic audio > (control) input (not MIDI) and applies it to harmony additions to > whatever noise you make in the mic. Like the TC Helicon boxes. > > Per > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: >> Mmm. You mean that you play a chord in a keyboard and the vocoder vocodize >> your voice according to the chord? >> I am not sure that this will do that, but you can investigate: >> http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/vp-7_brochure.pdf >> >> Ser >> >>> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:15:11 +0200 >>> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... >>> From: perboysen@gmail.com >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> >>> Thanks! Great synthy pitch correct sound, but it seems to be limited >>> to monophonics. I already have that on the laptop (Evoc vocoder) and >>> I'm looking for something that also reads a polyphonic audio input and >>> applies vocoder voices in harmony. >>> >>> Per >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Sergio Girardi >>> wrote: >>>> http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-synth/ >>>> prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >>>> :p >>>> >>>>> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:56:02 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... >>>>> From: perboysen@gmail.com >>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Sergio Girardi >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> VoiceTone Synth? >>>>> >>>>> This was the second time you mentioned that in this thread, but I >>>>> can't find it at http://www.tc-helicon.com/ - not even among >>>>> "discontinued products"? Can it be that you are talking about some >>>>> specific preset or functionality in some of their listed products? >>>>> >>>>> I suggested the VoiceLive Play or VoiceLive 2, but they are rather >>>>> harmonizers than vocoders. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> Per Boysen >>>>> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 21:22:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E142A183463; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5089AD8F.8080506@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:22:23 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:22:27 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Beyond the Sunset." You will also hear music by an artist who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on December 2. http://soundscapes.us The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 00:05:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 485F1183464; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=7eE7BWB+BQtWYQOc3NWJucNE9lttdCxbSZTbHHsV0ak=; b=qJvTHdNapUYvcUEpm9iShNLAmt7ocx8wPP2f4mqNXmHrjytp56Oc2Nudenx7xKG20V YKLClJSbVV5vyL4Rh7OrgntxjuK17S9jzkpNdEcisowBpwFolhPTbh1RNZIAT8fk6Gix b0/XtLJXnJFwc/ENdlZ5ux9FZLxehf0shFQLMiK0IOnXQDC6vDY7YMEFf4gie9IVNhVk gFIrzyrhLizDRGVJhWDutYv9881f3vhieak4i+39dqyqpSHqg5RoFodld+qJnCKmBIKr t+PBq4Pk/B8+HcCSbV7lwLZ0pKvp2mHh8sPu1VflxejtBbEuHgp6nzoR4Kt/HXWCPt4A AglQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <01FE8877-3C96-4AA6-82CA-6BC92F0972AB@baymoon.com> <7786C85C-B8FA-42D7-B3F8-B54AE0544FF6@mac.com> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:04:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another Y2K is in the books To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04308554c8177404cceb123c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:05:13 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04308554c8177404cceb123c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A delayed response, but I did want to chime in and say thanks again to Rick, Bill, Maha and all the artists and attendees for making my first Loopfest a wonderful experience. I managed to see all but 5 artists over the whole festival, and loved the diversity between us all. In fact, my next show after the festival (Monday), I ended up reorganizing some of my pedals, etc, just to try out some new sounds that I had been hearing over the weekend. I can't wait to get home to the rest of my piles of gear to try something else new! Thanks again, and hopefully we'll see you next year! -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --f46d04308554c8177404cceb123c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A delayed response, but I did want to chime in and say thanks again to Rick= , Bill, Maha and all the artists and attendees for making my first Loopfest= a wonderful experience. I managed to see all but 5 artists over the whole = festival, and loved the diversity between us all. In fact, my next show aft= er the festival (Monday), I ended up reorganizing some of my pedals, etc, j= ust to try out some new sounds that I had been hearing over the weekend. I = can't wait to get home to the rest of my piles of gear to try something= else new!

Thanks again, and hopefully we'll see you next year!
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Jean-Paul De Roover
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(807) 251-3376
--f46d04308554c8177404cceb123c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 07:51:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63C49183466; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P5cDWnHlG4P6JBEdG013Jwiw7o9KDZ65tHNsf4OIZ1w=; b=zXj1lJWO9MPxeOS/j5LoJC5f92jrPVqhs0vnChypKxXivK7Pxpubko06ippMi/eMRg Zid9EpG2PYpBLiKVrA7NF/Ocpyybirxp831XmLOgSfxYOm7tjZ6znTAMCF9u+EoaOsGJ PHdqewOzEEoUNVc7G2rjMro7liVvu9WHXqGkd4AIuJWDsX9VTHteCIURyqTysKibLwXN LsYWYExC3LL54UtzCRJuESWPGo2MbaZd7LmVstLXvM0+SdBzLHNkO0/JyuW8c/OxQAsq LNR8V5PxR/gmpIehuoIGIWBciPFf6IRr7tI47gK3oCl/3KBky8/Nn32mzNP4qiEhtdmu XQBA== Message-ID: <508A40E8.2070301@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:51:04 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> <5089AB34.8060507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5089AB34.8060507@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Am 25.10.12 23:12, schrieb Michał Wiernowolski: > The audio signal maybe polyphonic - you will have harmony then. > This harmony will not be as good as from a (decent) harmonizer > (I'm talking about intelligible human voice and choir effect), > but this heavily depends on the harmonic content of the carrier. The history of marketing electronic instruments created a bit of confusion. There existed harmonizers which wrongly claimed to be vocoders and the other way round. A vocoder happily deals with polyphonic sound as carrier, thats the base of all these typical harmonic vocoder sounds we know from the ancient heros and that could sound like a choir, though it isn't. A polyphonic harmonizer could be controlled by a keyboard and create a polyphonic choir, but you have to actually sing into it. A vocoder allows you to SPEAK into the mic, and the synth (or the guitar with sustainer preferably), will create the pitches which could come out like a sung choir depending on the sound of the carrier source... A vocoder is just a multiband filter, which is controlled in real time by a sound, gating the filters according to the spectral content of the control signal. Vocoders don't need to be controlled by Midi, unless they use an internal synth, which can be played with Midi. A vocoder with a monophonic internal synth (and no carrier input to avoid confusion with stupid customers), is a badly designed device and most likely no fun if you know what vocoders are about... Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 08:00:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85E7618345D; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JSHjiJAEjReL9zqB9BtBBPy94RltaCNGt90Ze7g/uhI=; b=0uUEphS0v2/TtjU31i570HJFzsq2aRKO8+1M5qMKzxdCLNOSdbUPRyUuG2XDyPnGj4 83Ibm2BfMTiZA0PlWCbVFv34GnGelNdeR0LhipQeQ9cfyzEssowelHy5SRIdyKKbNrgj P/sAbIymzzTJKHLwFHThwjST9Z4IZNHOr3iefBG8Jzjydlk9LofAJxXdu+596whAH1nW tMu7sSpLYKYx+UQYYBrm9pfaWYjd9ncJF/gAwyoau0JWr/Fom9lUxLJsvkkxGbIjipu0 7Cy+1LQMur3myhklLwOZKlco3RPQc0JOaxJy+QK9IHeNsjDAssknhksrh2GjQcETWHj9 bebA== Message-ID: <508A4328.1090007@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:00:40 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> <508948CF.5060404@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <508948CF.5060404@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Am 25.10.2012 16:12, schrieb Stefan Tiedje: > There is a roundup for software vocoders on this site: > http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/7-great-vocoder-plug-ins-513324 > > Is there a list of the vocoders you have or know already? Otherwise we > always get this answer "oh I know this"...;-) > Of course I would build my vocoder always myself in Max/MSP...;-) As we're moving into software territory already: Waldorf has one: http://www.waldorf-music.info/en/lector-overview.html And there's some sale this weekend at their online shop. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 09:42:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93355183466; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6VAgnzk5YIbY7jfUfe/byxSDZsalY/JZCkiM3lFtFQ4=; b=kvr7oCrofcjbWOn4sVTwe8KFjPPwBWRnc5AeETk61H07Rn47ZZGapbuNIAHrUEg6P/ ws8bkmq6SVBtX8O0vCu9xdg32kgULTty6EI3Mor8oku5hpK1/yJmwmPe7nHO6WyHOH/b xxJ0yofXd3tBieGOapkUCaa6FahdrCnzkNbKBEzrTmciu5Md5pSEw5i7Oe9fMtIPlR9j zi3IGra5sWjC5BgCLeRu4sQIwxb69H5at9PXQVVPGTPhGwNjSmMNLEnlO+pFvCjk4w0H T2P5AHqk3HNXNpxIpuIbTVNcXslXcnjc7bgcHR0S5589kYCMLfaE2qpYLYUl8V6ANii9 uc/g== Message-ID: <508A5AE5.1010100@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:41:57 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Balancing out your practice References: <8CF7C23AD5E8CEF-1D10-1281@webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CF7C23AD5E8CEF-1D10-1281@webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Am 19.10.12 17:15, schrieb michael klobuchar: > a question.....has LOOPING helpedyou in becoming more proficient > at playing your instrument? The loop is my instrument...;-) Whatever you do on stage, including stage, audience and last but not least your body, is your instrument. You can't split it into parts, though it sometimes looks like it... Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 10:04:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D26C183461; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UaAZljD7CWojfwlcNxKv2fYpQrZbDtmO+a67pwPVTVo=; b=zGtHuvTR/4KZi0YBPMLmnY/EQ4Hw/RIL6xR4Uqc4NNNykFKd8gRHXtdkKZi8GTA+Ye MTtkC1x52JbDYRu1L7SPsG5a0xvuYmbWRx83Ue+vEW9ccHIgzww2JBsUApWv4k67LY9A NiTRvIQAI28GDgb1E35mT3JvaPfaNP2fsnu9yOSrRA0u6abbebTzz/dK0JsN0uikW4Nf N3qgiJl50Y6CSiuoHAyDOqlm3y3+1M3Nrp42ggqL4YD+cad+aveJ4s2U7S3+Pp/mk+za EVPTO6kmFpbKPWJfhkBS7dRAoFzjtWVW18jINK8eMPYggrbyovyWxQnfQSPtK0Y+y7h2 vHZg== Message-ID: <508A6035.7070600@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:04:37 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... References: <-5966717582059036455@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Am 25.10.12 19:12, schrieb Per Boysen: > Sorry, no offense meant! :-) Just wondering if someone happens to > know some product out there that works like the Vocalive but can sound > more "vocodish" even with chords - and picking up the chords from an > audio input typically coming from a guitar etc. I just looked up VocaLive, it is not a vocoder, its a harmonizer plus some other toys... If you want a more "vocodish" sound you do need a vocoder instead. Either use the guitar directly as carrier, or use a synth and a guitar-to-Midi converter. The iVoxel from VirSyn seems to be a vocoder application for the iPad which does seem to haven an polyphonic internal synth... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhxlacxrYFo&feature=relmfu http://tinyurl.com/cf7adon -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 15:50:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8F7E183465; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 397 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:50:26 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:43:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Another Y2K is in the books In-Reply-To: References: <01FE8877-3C96-4AA6-82CA-6BC92F0972AB@baymoon.com> <7786C85C-B8FA-42D7-B3F8-B54AE0544FF6@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_43499786==.ALT" Message-Id: <20121026154348.7F9776161@smtp3.wightman.ca> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:50:26 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_43499786==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Back home after 4 days driving with little sleep, but lots of time to think about directions with looping. I think for me the key is less technology, and finding more creative ways of using my instrument, finding all the voices that you don't expect to hear from the dulcimer. I was so impressed with Lori and the others that were doing such amazing creative things with just their voice and a looper. All in all, a great experience, and I look forward to going back with fresh ideas to use next year. All the best, Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca At 08:04 PM 10/25/2012, you wrote: >A delayed response, but I did want to chime in and say thanks again >to Rick, Bill, Maha and all the artists and attendees for making my >first Loopfest a wonderful experience. I managed to see all but 5 >artists over the whole festival, and loved the diversity between us >all. In fact, my next show after the festival (Monday), I ended up >reorganizing some of my pedals, etc, just to try out some new sounds >that I had been hearing over the weekend. I can't wait to get home >to the rest of my piles of gear to try something else new! > >Thanks again, and hopefully we'll see you next year! > >-- >Jean-Paul De Roover >www.jeanpaulderoover.com >(807) 251-3376 --=====================_43499786==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Back home after 4 days driving with little sleep, but lots of time to think about directions with looping. I think for me the key is less technology, and finding more creative ways of using my instrument, finding all the voices that you don't expect to hear from the dulcimer. I was so impressed with Lori and the others that were doing such amazing creative things with just their voice and a looper. All in all, a great experience, and I look forward to going back with fresh ideas to use next year.


All the best,

Paul Haslem
Ontario, Canada
www.dulcify.ca





At 08:04 PM 10/25/2012, you wrote:
A delayed response, but I did want to chime in and say thanks again to Rick, Bill, Maha and all the artists and attendees for making my first Loopfest a wonderful experience. I managed to see all but 5 artists over the whole festival, and loved the diversity between us all. In fact, my next show after the festival (Monday), I ended up reorganizing some of my pedals, etc, just to try out some new sounds that I had been hearing over the weekend. I can't wait to get home to the rest of my piles of gear to try something else new!

Thanks again, and hopefully we'll see you next year!

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
--=====================_43499786==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 20:03:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A424F183464; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 561 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:03:56 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=Pgnxo I2iwh7TCjGQeJdyU2aa+Zg=; b=s491epCMj/vxRVj+Ebc2RNb2YBXVQo0fUVPe2 r3sKvS9bNo9+I94zfJ0bGQzTYyPRjbJFbJfu664VTQnKOC9b+eiTJn+X2jw7iqEh qy0hk0Yh8bFiQZEwATMWpKZzkmjQiX3GsgoYfUoyKhzph1mzJdw5H6aKA7dyveHF kKCPJQ= Message-ID: <26617f4b01fb537ade00e75507c9f07f.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:54:55 -0700 Subject: new ambient album by Jim Coleman (ex Cop Shoot Cop) From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:03:56 +0000 (UTC) For those interested in sound pioneers and artists Jim Coleman (aka Phylr, ex Cop Shoot Cop) has a fantastic new all ambient album out calle= d Trees. I did an interview with him and have a new blog post with a little about his career and some complete tracks plus links to all his sites. I= f you're into sound scapes or just curious how an artist evolves I encourag= e you to check it out. Latest post on: http://www.synthandi.blogspot.com/ Dig. --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extraordinary from the Ordinary" Music and Downloads at the New Online Site: http://davidtalento.bandcamp.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 01:19:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1688718345E; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=onpxiZLYBQtBO1IcMnSS39aZbg0uvdPRBgvfUrWh/eI=; b=SIk0W7gR9qo7YlKhVPC9+H7CLWaxMwv4HhaW4Ig+s+yedRcuYjrjbBI+79Fjr4ZyxZ ITNSpm0uBrtrOJDbZIPs4+FUGDdJwddWJltUU8BRU4x2n7PlbqPJmaAdjccqBS8UtYKI RMssaPr1gUcmB7FP1q7D3IQGhyyZlBIQk0WI/IgsTdBt83spLPseRem32pjRpZ8GnuES jRxaEIexMA4bEH9vEJ9nEgakR/gZMkDnUvEglMh/hi8BT2HVlMGwi/65O34bej0uFT5g 86g4EQiFbm/l1xqArjPRyzJ/PSj1O+CC5gi7TgQgo8AvneOVNzSKQb4L1HIOmcLnU9BR 2HvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121026154348.7F9776161@smtp3.wightman.ca> References: <01FE8877-3C96-4AA6-82CA-6BC92F0972AB@baymoon.com> <7786C85C-B8FA-42D7-B3F8-B54AE0544FF6@mac.com> <20121026154348.7F9776161@smtp3.wightman.ca> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:19:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another Y2K is in the books From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9am52B.A.ahG.JaziQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:19:06 +0000 (UTC) I'm slowly readjusting to life without constant looping discussion... I'm very grateful for the opportunity to perform at this year's festival and I'd like to think Rick and everyone involved (in particular, Bill, Nancy, Chris and Maha really made me feel welcomed and I appreciate their efforts to make this festival happen). I wrote about my Y2K experience in more details on my blog, if you're interested: http://goo.gl/m73DJ I'm presently editing my sets into manageable short 'songs' and I'll be making that available shortly. cheers, Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 03:21:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 487F6183463; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oGCV84jH2MVGBTS187RTc1Je40posyQjQBHR06vcI+k=; b=EM+yqykSaMrtv8JFkT4O4YDi3x1vhRKGBD1MtMY8ewATzZ2lbEKHiotEr5lrOQDEGo 5lbKdqCR0VXIhGAYwAxvfK92/I1lOkKAVP3NQrbut6P6Ijuqe1qWKLdPHIeiufelNp8c p+dY/8q/VhZkLWcR4pKxKtF5DFhqNkYL+15F3DNbTaIA1P+CTevmIUdEj23en0zzbVW+ tDN0LGneHotSzoO5zCbg7b3nb9wZlZ7m6Ru6XA3CNhs3GiuJ+07OdV1fbM/U6UXZhLIB GPXkzeQz7NUn3Ovc8Ag4x+3yUYWPDrwikiE1hhC+nqN8ekdZHizjGGchhn4Aevx+jKjO bw1A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: 2 sec delay?? From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04426e20bdb48f04cd01ee97 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:21:32 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04426e20bdb48f04cd01ee97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have been thinking about the hexe revolver pedal, which is billed as a 2 sec glitch looper that can go down or up 2octaves... I think it's out of my range... SO I was going to rethink my loop needs I , mainly use my digitech dl8 for 2 sec of delay looping or less Can anyone recommend a newish 2sec delay that can do the vari-speed options -slows down or speeds up... I have honestly debated debuting either an ibanez de7 or a Guyatone md3-both did 2.6 sec of delay where you could modulate the time- instead of the newish delay model of just sort of warping/glitching the notes.. And it doesn't really hold the notes at all...just curious if anyone had any suggestions outside of my knowledge base... Thanks , s---- --f46d04426e20bdb48f04cd01ee97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been thinking about the hexe revolver pedal, which is billed as a 2 = sec glitch looper that can go down or up 2octaves... I think it's out o= f my range...
SO I was going to rethink my loop needs I =A0, mainly =A0u= se my digitech dl8 for 2 sec of delay looping or less
Can anyone recommend a newish 2sec delay that can do the vari-speed options= -slows down or speeds up... =A0
I have honestly debated debuting either= an ibanez de7 or a Guyatone md3-both did 2.6 sec of delay where you could = modulate the time- instead of the newish delay model of just sort of warpin= g/glitching the notes.. And it doesn't really hold the notes at all...j= ust curious if anyone had any suggestions outside of my knowledge base... T= hanks , s---- --f46d04426e20bdb48f04cd01ee97-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 04:50:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C99B183463; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--655925770 Message-Id: <8B364549-DB46-4091-AF50-0F94F2587B9E@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:50:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:50:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--655925770 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:34 AM, mark francombe wrote: Chiming in here to say that I still have and use and LOVE my Roland VP-330 MK1 Vocoder Plus! https://sites.google.com/site/analogvocoderinfo/analog-vocoder/roland- vp-330 http://www.retrosound.de/VP330.html http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/vocoder.php (There's also other sources forVP-330 info all over Thee Web) > By the way, the reason for my renewed interest in Vocoders is THIS > amazing book... > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612190928/ref=as_li_ss_tl? > ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1612190928&linkCode=as2 > &tag=wwwmarkfranco-20 > Oh, indeed! I purchased it right after it was published. FASCINATING history and FUN reading! Highly REVcommended reading! > but its written from the point of view of someone who seriously > LOVES vocoders!! No damn kidding! A true Labor of Love. > It was the vocoders in Kraftwerk, the Vocoders in Laurie Ansersen, > even the vocoders in ELO that hooked me. My first taste for the vocoder addiction came from Wendy Carlos way back in 1971 with excerpts of her original composition "Timesteps" and also her electronic transposition of the "Chorale" from Beethoven's "9th Symphony" and the original composition "Country Lane", all featured in Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange". And then of course, later along came Kraftwerk, Laurie Anderson and some others. (I never was an ELO fan.). BTW, the ENTIRE "Timesteps" is a mindblower if ye've never heard ALL of it! > And when I got a Korg VC10 (from a member of Temple ov Psychick Youth) Ah yes...TOPY. I'm gonna go see Gen's new PTV rock band here in Portlandia on Nov 10th. Should be fun. But, I digress.... :-) > in the late 80s, I was putting every thing thru it... drum machines > on the voice input orchestras on the music input, my guitar > routinely went thru it but on the voice input, > while a whole sub-mix of the rest of the band went in the music > input... no one knew where that extra "organ" sound came from... I did pretty much the same with the VP-300. I ran all kinds of things thru it. STILL do! > Best Vocoder album ever (and I heard lots) > Holger Czukay, "On the way to the peak of normal" ANY solo album by Holger is SUPERB! Highly REVcommended! Cheers- Rev.Fever Portlandia http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tyler > wrote: > My looper friend and I really like this thing called Microkorg. It > has a vocoder built in! > Tyler Z > On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200, mark francombe wrote: > > > >I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins) > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > --Apple-Mail-4--655925770 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Oct 24, 2012, at = 12:34 AM, mark francombe wrote:

Chiming in here = to say that I still have and use and LOVE my Roland VP-330 MK1 Vocoder = Plus!


(There's also = other sources forVP-330  info all over Thee Web)

By the = way, the reason for my renewed interest in Vocoders is THIS amazing = book...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612190928/ref=3Das_li_= ss_tl?ie=3DUTF8&camp=3D1789&creative=3D390957&creativeASIN=3D1= 612190928&linkCode=3Das2&tag=3Dwwwmarkfranco-20
=

Oh, indeed!  I purchased it right = after it was published. FASCINATING history and FUN reading!   = Highly REVcommended reading!

but = its written from the point of view of someone who seriously LOVES = vocoders!!

No damn kidding! =  A true Labor of Love.

It = was the vocoders in Kraftwerk, the Vocoders in Laurie Ansersen, even the = vocoders in ELO that hooked me.

My first = taste for the vocoder addiction came from Wendy Carlos way back in 1971 = with excerpts of her original composition "Timesteps" and also her = electronic transposition of the "Chorale" from Beethoven's "9th = Symphony" and the original composition "Country Lane",  all = featured in Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange". And then of course, = later along came Kraftwerk, Laurie Anderson and some others. (I = never was an ELO fan.).  BTW, the ENTIRE "Timesteps" is a = mindblower if ye've never heard ALL of it!

And when I got a Korg VC10 (from a member of Temple ov = Psychick Youth)

Ah yes...TOPY. I'm gonna go = see Gen's new PTV rock band here in Portlandia on Nov 10th.  Should = be fun.  But, I digress.... :-)

in the late 80s, I was putting every thing thru it... = drum machines on the voice input orchestras on the music input, my = guitar routinely went thru it  but on the voice input, =
while a whole sub-mix of the rest = of the band went in the music input... no one knew where that extra = "organ" sound came from...

I did pretty = much the same with the VP-300.  I ran all kinds of things thru = it. STILL do! 

Best Vocoder = album ever (and I heard lots)
Holger Czukay, "On the way to the peak = of normal"

ANY solo album by Holger is = SUPERB!   Highly = REVcommended!

Cheers-
Rev.Fever




On Wed, Oct 24, = 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> = wrote:
My looper friend and = I really like this thing called Microkorg. It has a vocoder built = in!
Tyler Z
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:23:42 +0200, mark = francombe wrote:


>I'm researching Vocoders(not = plugins)


-- =
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
= http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter = @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/


= --Apple-Mail-4--655925770-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 08:21:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61A5E183466; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 2 sec delay?? In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF823337D9B051_1C80_EA104_webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37105-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF823337CDC976-1C80-3E5D2@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [99.6.110.44] Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:21:37 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1351326097; bh=hEFohbFJMjwsMHf/u7wXEFYQ1Gyvb4GPqs+fo1YCGy8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kpJHuTv4IBzK1fnBEUq0unhX3vESOq+7KYMBCuFgiox8WFBsko3ntwEEg0t43q6/5 opo5NEblpkmNtlVeb6BogL6IUWcT56gwJMfaVkiNTgYtztF4J6r9bYIp0jp4libnyV hM0lF7QNr8pRzBFpCNNYkbK2PKSC4XaPGTdmxQl0= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:461956736:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c8508b99913f0c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:21:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF823337D9B051_1C80_EA104_webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A Vox Dynamic Looper can do what the Hexe does as well as many, many more t= hings. It might be worth checking out. I think they are less expensive too. PJ -----Original Message----- From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 11:21 pm Subject: 2 sec delay?? I have been thinking about the hexe revolver pedal, which is billed as a 2 = sec glitch looper that can go down or up 2octaves... I think it's out of my= range... SO I was going to rethink my loop needs I , mainly use my digitech dl8 fo= r 2 sec of delay looping or less Can anyone recommend a newish 2sec delay that can do the vari-speed options= -slows down or speeds up... =20 I have honestly debated debuting either an ibanez de7 or a Guyatone md3-bot= h did 2.6 sec of delay where you could modulate the time- instead of the ne= wish delay model of just sort of warping/glitching the notes.. And it doesn= 't really hold the notes at all...just curious if anyone had any suggestion= s outside of my knowledge base... Thanks , s---- =20 ----------MB_8CF823337D9B051_1C80_EA104_webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" A Vox Dynamic Looper can do what the Hexe does as well as = many, many more things. It might be worth checking out. I think they are le= ss expensive too.

PJ


I have been thinking about the hexe revolver pedal, which is billed as a 2 = sec glitch looper that can go down or up 2octaves... I think it's out of my= range...
SO I was going to rethink my loop needs I  , mainly  use my digit= ech dl8 for 2 sec of delay looping or less
Can anyone recommend a newish 2sec delay that can do the vari-speed options= -slows down or speeds up...  
I have honestly debated debuting either an ibanez de7 or a Guyatone md3-bot= h did 2.6 sec of delay where you could modulate the time- instead of the ne= wish delay model of just sort of warping/glitching the notes.. And it doesn= 't really hold the notes at all...just curious if anyone had any suggestion= s outside of my knowledge base... Thanks , s----
----------MB_8CF823337D9B051_1C80_EA104_webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 08:38:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B687C183461; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=RvGn/Cs4d7xKeXa8A1Y4z0J33/ywYgehgVCguEksSbs=; b=UtypSNEZLiSkMvQZ5RAIzVsWHvUnrF6T6TrC33F8I8M/pquvxAlFv70Yu0kZyK+vYL 0sxHVeId+B1rxrVrOfmzkM91NjvWnchgI6i6QQSlM4Pswn6uMeZ8JuYx5X3UCROt7khq ns3Kni0v0Bt+sbFtxLD2KiAiILPRXflQc7PS/vZIcK8lpHimx0QoQgf+g5Yiy2wSAjvK /Yj8IOFsrN+ckldFdnykdMWUkcCW9GWI9lv6NiHCjC4sP4dIdCrQfz5jh3uFuukvUbsL kknWjFQq7mTp60tPY/GIAQ2p+Z9Hj8zdManY41U0IYjPqn9vzZu36/xU1/mpoZb6QxK4 kD8w== Subject: Re: OT: Vocoders... References: <20121024065402.1973.68564.levelstar.mail@everest> <8B364549-DB46-4091-AF50-0F94F2587B9E@ubergadget.com> From: Mark Francombe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9E8A544B-6063-4BD4-8C5B-FD118C79F479 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <8B364549-DB46-4091-AF50-0F94F2587B9E@ubergadget.com> Message-Id: <7C2251C5-0921-4A35-AFB5-C25F389A5428@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:38:11 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:38:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9E8A544B-6063-4BD4-8C5B-FD118C79F479 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >=20 > Chiming in here to say that I still have and use and LOVE my Roland VP-330= MK1 Vocoder Plus! Nice!, >=20 > https://sites.google.com/site/analogvocoderinfo/analog-vocoder/roland-vp-3= 30 Amazing reference.. Thank rev! > http://www.retrosound.de/VP330.html > http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/vocoder.php >=20 >>=20 >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-9E8A544B-6063-4BD4-8C5B-FD118C79F479 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8




Chiming in here to say that I= still have and use and LOVE my Roland VP-330 MK1 Vocoder Plus!
<= /div>

Nice!,



= --Apple-Mail-9E8A544B-6063-4BD4-8C5B-FD118C79F479-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 16:22:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ABFC183473; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <508C0A40.5060103@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:22:24 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #812 for October 25, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:22:29 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121025.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #812 October 25, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=10-25-2012 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Beyond the Sunset." http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct I also played music an artist who will appear at the Soundscapes Concert Series.http://soundscapes.us PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Hunter and Harrison Liquid to Solid - Phase 1 (Music With Space) Crystallization Bertrnd Loreau Le Ciel est joune Journey Through the Past d'un Liquide (Spheric Music) Inconnu Part 1 MU Passing Sfely Mars and the Toucan (none) Sonogram Mute Pixel Apparent Microdots (Simulcra) Dirk Serries nd Part 1 The Sleep of Reason Jon Attwood (Tonefloat) Dan Pound Pure Flow/Shaman's Return to Other Worlds Path (Poundsounds) Booth and Creek Lightwaves * Lightwaves (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Modulator ESP Beyond the Sunset Beyond the Sunset (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Vast" on the old MP3.com label. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#nov WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-11-01 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 20:16:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7EF7183473; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <508C4120.5000706@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:16:32 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sylvain Poitras CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Another Y2K is in the books References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:16:41 +0000 (UTC) On 10/26/12 6:19 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I'm slowly readjusting to life without constant looping discussion... > > I'm very grateful for the opportunity to perform at this year's > festival and I'd like to think Rick and everyone involved (in > particular, Bill, Nancy, Chris and Maha really made me feel welcomed > and I appreciate their efforts to make this festival happen). It was really wonderful to have you here, Sylvain and very nice, I must say to have such a talented bunch of Canadian loopers respresenting this year, all with really different approaches to their artistry. I think that this festival was as diverse stylistically, as any we've had so far. Fascinating in it's difference from other festivals, there were very few ambient guitarists and very few EDP artists this year. It all just went to quickly for me and I'm more than a little sad that everyone is gone. But next summer is going to ROCK!!!!!! all over the world. Rick Walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 20:25:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E45BB183464; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:25:22 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:30 +0000 (UTC) One of our volunteers, Todd Kramer, brought his son, Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival. While Todd graciously did the door, Neville had his eyes glued to the stage. He saw many performances (as well as with his dad when he wasn't working). Maha told me that he went to his school right afterwards and beatboxed for the kids and then taught them how to do it. He also taught them about live looping, which they didn't know about. He also said that one of his favorite artists was Stan Card (aka Stanosaur) who only used high volume feedback to create his looping performance. Afterwards, Neville went home and put microphones into different drums, turned up the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the feedback as he looped the results live. All on his own. Neville is 9 years old! All the hard work we did for the festival this year was worth it if only for this story of creativity, growth and excitement. This story is so inspiring to me. I'm going to go out and put mics in my drum and create some feedback today. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 21:20:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 842DA183475; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_114cf424-594f-4bfb-b821-4cf2d8e7b8ed_" X-Originating-IP: [174.255.162.58] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:20:44 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> References: ,<508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2012 21:20:44.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECD7F3E0:01CDB488] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:20:46 +0000 (UTC) --_114cf424-594f-4bfb-b821-4cf2d8e7b8ed_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also thought he was really cute when he said I was playing a pumpkin gui= tar. ( an Orange Charvel Surfcaster ) > Date: Sat=2C 27 Oct 2012 13:25:22 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 >=20 > One of our volunteers=2C Todd Kramer=2C brought his > son=2C Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival. >=20 > While Todd graciously did the door=2C Neville had his eyes glued to the= =20 > stage. > He saw many performances (as well as with his dad when he wasn't working)= . >=20 > Maha told me that he went to his school right afterwards and beatboxed > for the kids and then taught them how to do it. He also taught them=20 > about live looping=2C > which they didn't know about. >=20 > He also said that one of his favorite artists was Stan Card (aka=20 > Stanosaur) who only > used high volume feedback to create his looping performance. >=20 > Afterwards=2C Neville went home and put microphones into different drums= =2C=20 > turned up > the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the feedback as he=20 > looped the > results live. All on his own. >=20 > Neville is 9 years old! >=20 > All the hard work we did for the festival this year was worth it if only= =20 > for this story of > creativity=2C growth and excitement. This story is so inspiring to me. = =20 > I'm going to > go out and put mics in my drum and create some feedback today. >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 = --_114cf424-594f-4bfb-b821-4cf2d8e7b8ed_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also thought he was really cut= e when he said I =3B =3Bwas playing a pumpkin guitar. ( an Orange C= harvel Surfcaster )

> Date:=3B Sat=2C 27 Oct 2012 13:=3B25:= =3B22 -0700
> From:=3B looppool@=3Bcruzio.com
> To:=3B Loope= rs-Delight@=3Bloopers-delight.com
> Subject:=3B Amazing thing happ= ened at Y2K12
>
> One of our volunteers=2C Todd Kramer=2C brought = his
> son=2C Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival.
>
> While T= odd graciously did the door=2C Neville had his eyes glued to the
> sta= ge.
> He saw many performances (=3Bas well as with his dad when he wa= sn'=3Bt working)=3B.
>
> Maha told me that he went to his scho= ol right afterwards and beatboxed
> for the kids and then taught them ho= w to do it. He also taught them
> about live looping=2C
> which th= ey didn'=3Bt know about.
>
> He also said that one of his favorit= e artists was Stan Card (=3Baka
> Stanosaur)=3B who only
> use= d high volume feedback to create his looping performance.
>
> Afterw= ards=2C Neville went home and put microphones into different drums=2C
= > turned up
> the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the fee= dback as he
> looped the
> results live. All on his own.
>
>= Neville is 9 years old!=3B
>
> All the hard work we did for the = festival this year was worth it if only
> for this story of
> creati= vity=2C growth and excitement. This story is so inspiring to me.
> = I'=3Bm going to
> go out and put mics in my drum and create some feed= back today.
>
> Rick Walker
>
= --_114cf424-594f-4bfb-b821-4cf2d8e7b8ed_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 21:30:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD76D183466; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 660 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:30:37 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=dkYQbDsSCbBiYF/naecpuX+kfS4+hppcaM09mBkic+FYaZcRwc03tBLE6apeIiFA; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <4876189.1351372776922.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:19:36 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48c690f3b6b603811fbd93d0bc3b66c8aad81f49743ecfecf5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:30:37 +0000 (UTC) I am way humble thank you Rick for that story...you just never know. http://stanosaur.com/ -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Walker >Sent: Oct 27, 2012 1:25 PM >To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" >Subject: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 > >One of our volunteers, Todd Kramer, brought his >son, Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival. > >While Todd graciously did the door, Neville had his eyes glued to the >stage. >He saw many performances (as well as with his dad when he wasn't working). > >Maha told me that he went to his school right afterwards and beatboxed >for the kids and then taught them how to do it. He also taught them >about live looping, >which they didn't know about. > >He also said that one of his favorite artists was Stan Card (aka >Stanosaur) who only >used high volume feedback to create his looping performance. > >Afterwards, Neville went home and put microphones into different drums, >turned up >the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the feedback as he >looped the >results live. All on his own. > >Neville is 9 years old! > >All the hard work we did for the festival this year was worth it if only >for this story of >creativity, growth and excitement. This story is so inspiring to me. >I'm going to >go out and put mics in my drum and create some feedback today. > >Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 22:52:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1831C183464; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=E8K7BNWr0sRg15LbKAaUgyq82sAcO4ImCpUICBEJQ58=; b=IsvC65e0Esx+9zJSR0ex0AaKaNT/ngwXgAKGrQ9RNHAU0k3cl1AVau+w9svhriRz+F EEP4H49Fxp454t8ARAa7ucqDaNMxKbukXI5QRAytVAhHt6Z4kHIa99YorLumWgB0ZeP5 27GnXoXnAiMqRbJZnP2sEcGExwFPmh9AECzwzbTCtYMrefSFxswajgSqUWSos3MPELn8 bFoXuWB/VYqYXnIc0jAzwBPVIkP+SHDqPy/O06W8ID3SI0Xp1yOsvh5PPhWblJ6WTMX8 5JmIc0a7SvKA3p1zFhfsktCOhlbGIE1LQUVknbDrqonz3OPEhs/oRMQLDIOiuq8G6dbZ +svg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> References: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:52:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:52:55 +0000 (UTC) This is really great Rick, maybe next year we could do some school gigs during the day? Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 23:45:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D089183466; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sZyfgVF/HiQk0C4RS/aDFBcipfS3rVmClZ8n71zjPVU=; b=lBsofwUtllExfiew9q5TZ5n1bSA/v6Sqal2qFQtTryMHnok+TChQI0fAbrOUFX365x eFXg3Fx9lT32f3lA+iO7lukuEiDVorf8J8VeX620W/SLQEEpLs8/MzsBStFABlgc31/H YLEMeZS7+0Et92wEq3Y4f9RMtpd+0hubJwJGIQD/C/zFD/lITT/uMcYhhw188sDm1nlN cdEQ5WU7mSK0Ex/3VEUBQapmjMU5K5yvUYMkH3q3VZusn9vKOEMDpnUhPjtIyVAWbpiW 8sguMq2s2SQrmoXZ+EEL7bxFilJBd4MsIDnLXqWjSEea8kXEcWz54HHDNzFI7S39qRDa 4wIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> References: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:45:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d03865f1e2d04cd130718 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:45:19 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d03865f1e2d04cd130718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What a wonderful underscore to what sounds like a lovely lovely moving event this year. I'm sorry I had to miss it but that's incredibly touching and such a nice tip of the hat to both the community, Maestro Rick and Mr Card! Excellent you folks! Excellent! Jim On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > One of our volunteers, Todd Kramer, brought his > son, Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival. > --20cf307d03865f1e2d04cd130718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What a wonderful underscore to what sounds like a lovely lovely moving even= t this year. =A0I'm sorry I had to miss it but that's incredibly to= uching and such a nice tip of the hat to both the community, Maestro Rick a= nd Mr Card! Excellent you folks! Excellent!

Jim

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 a= t 4:25 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
One of our volunteers, =A0Todd Kramer, =A0brought his
son, =A0Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival.
--20cf307d03865f1e2d04cd130718-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 23:58:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7976183475; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=O8gWAXUVbcpknF5kIK6VnUZdD5HUTaamXNqf33WON9g=; b=k3fFCy9k2W85puFtO0n42eIFwZeIp8XlQOa8w3cYujdZp1dsjIocn9hIN7AAZOEFf3 iI2crasQnSacrfzBBvnNTiEiloGq2U0ao9fCTfRMysEbWJWhS0FPXBc67LR/MmbPTVly 7s67Nzlic7NBSxBDELwb51nv0HKo28bg/IeVWrGs79aA/kV66rvznJppgdAeb7L9lxZj w1nsmX57YPTYdUMeAWw1MLUt9bGRMTpvnG7N7is0tvh5L7JoZ+tbGax8uN5J2YpIhARR GqpsIFev/ZwkZTcFHTcnffxaz5eC3Es92aZ971dhnJYYgTCdt7dYbMsTFMPuMLGo3zEW iFTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:58:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Yeah - kids rule! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 07:41:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AEDF183463; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UI6E51rXFuvlyedwPMvfc+kEnZezOOYegrxp2BZvLXM=; b=cUYR3XTy737NNITCqUeJIinz/RmgzllFp99WnZoj+s6OlilWe3N55OZ032ACDjo9hX feukjWifw1L39a8n5pXCiLFK7LK1mVLOvJSz+0mSt/MTLF3vbK7hfjN2Uhdl/98U7W1r KYdPF0rebxLZJMbxwHngyEm0TIeEBSTtKnBk0fsxmGyPmY83Nn16d870zpBWlgZIhbjI 4++tz/YmttmGD51IfGtiqUSSfVUsX3bn3/tdnqOIdPWKPJ/K2EcAlU3DxLR+F8zDoeLA nynlFksn8pNoveRQQp70mjp8y6H/0uPinbppOfyTB31du5NH6aC/ROXVyvept7tuxQiZ gmhA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <508C4120.5000706@cruzio.com> References: <508C4120.5000706@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 00:41:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Another Y2K is in the books From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:41:48 +0000 (UTC) I'm sorry I wasn't able to make it to the main festival this year. My day job sent me to Miami for a conference, and Saturday 10/20 was my travel day. Hopefully next year! -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:58:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42E97183466; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=/NVH8eE49uNLSsnBNbcfB307fePyttDkB94t/b/Hb3I=; b=OLew7H4OwGnVWde93/NiSbFobK9o6dQ1TtKkrBwKJ5m0m+IFwDnchgyAbVqm7W7xqt hCnbU2Zl1E8KnGTk2qBm7+1oU1POgER4MmSEKXNjucWAx+EQM/8HyWAfLTOEEI5BxBKh oe/gR6hmjUAGiqtnKz6GifO9GVXvActFmuYOqfvMU2Wb04oBy9yh0kVzDDPdzQ7qosJ5 VowdFyz6lM1K4wqGu61OIQRtzQAlLLERNttEt/AdDsZMSiOsMtwY8wT/cveTqR5kHMVM BWagqU6h/00NANxs8tUYK08kxDqbGj+hOQJYLS/ggiK6wNX/OrVKH7KYxn5jEC3/usx0 ct1A== From: Matthias Grob Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24--547480342 Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:57:54 -0300 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <47B92770-AB89-4096-9750-C0223B5913C8@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:58:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-24--547480342 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii great idea! reminds me of a video that was recently posted here or on FB: = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvwyDVLS-tZc&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLCC3807= AD49DD9830 and I remember of a tour Stefan Keller http://flutetrends.ch made = through the swiss schools after which probably a big part of the swiss = kids understood what livelooping is about. On 27.10.2012, at 19:52, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > This is really great Rick, maybe next year we could do some school > gigs during the day? > Sylvain >=20 --Apple-Mail-24--547480342 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii great idea!
reminds me of a video that was recently posted here or on FB:
and I remember of a tour Stefan Keller http://flutetrends.ch made through the swiss schools after which probably a big part of the swiss kids understood what livelooping is about.

On 27.10.2012, at 19:52, Sylvain Poitras wrote:

This is really great Rick, maybe next year we could do some school
gigs during the day?
Sylvain


--Apple-Mail-24--547480342-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 18:00:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAB2C183466; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <508D7294.9010003@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:59:48 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for October, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:00:27 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/top20-10oct.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for October, 2012. Shows #809 to #812; 4-October-2012 to 25-October-2012 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for October was Modulator ESP. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== AKHET - AKHET - Tonefloat Bertrnd Loreau - Journey Through the Past - Spheric Music Bil Vermette - Galaxies IV - none Booth and Creek - Lightwaves - none Craig Padilla and Zero Ohms - When the Earth Is Far Away - Lotuspike Dan Pound - Return to Other Worlds - Poundsounds David Wright - Connected - A.D. Music Dirk Serries and Jon Attwood - The Sleep of Reason - Tonefloat Gordon Simmons - Solitary Journey - none Hunter and Harrison - Phase 1 - Music With Space Loren Nerell - Slow Dream - Projekt Modulator ESP - Aurora - none Modulator ESP - Beyond the Sunset - none Modulator ESP - Into the Matrix - none Modulator ESP - The Unknowing - none Mystified and Seetyca - Suns - Phonospheric Parallel Worlds and Dave Bessell - Morphogenic - DiN Robert Rich - Nest - Soundscape Productions Sonogram - Apparent Microdots - Simulcra Takashi Suzuki - Cycle - Calm Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 00:55:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5C25183464; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 674589.69827.bm@smtp101.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: o2hp2NoVM1lKCr5LFr3lwIjN4.NWeg5fvoGgA3a9s2Wk3rC .p7EMCsDIvNthOc6Dq_D_BWKNXEtaROzc78ZawVwlFZ_iYlEkqeJXyzR5Izv wPsAeGDCZtVZ2FF_IvdUIUsNWmgfYkwLmogYJHnPHkSj0VJvwZFJ3_K3fGFU dnkR.Lmveq.e2Bq3m8TuypQ.Rl5wqcUAk4t5sQyGZRhX6I.WmsE1BGAtqQcn t3MST42ajXjH23C2VtnXhDUUGUdWIq3s5u1.avSC7bTUYrq.ubmnz16iTDeH 3wny_WErPFNCoyDqPoJK9dcawMooCFPzItb.Oa8dTnMg440uGoPfub4R.xnj od2Fu56G9fqqF9j7ciTTVEzhumGx9.BvhrAM30ZBS_9L6iRxk5ZtpwG06Qzt u8525b2eJl1IAi0r3ubiqdramMQiin29fBKV9MuJnL3IWDk2KavnR6SNXWgX G9JmpoEr_x2gxWmEYqcvl8YCyEevU6waEm30- X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F References: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D79EF@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Subject: Mobius in Mainstage Mishaps and Misses Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:55:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:55:16 +0000 (UTC) The looping fest in Santa Cruz was awesome, and I was honored to be = invited to do vocal looping. =20 I performed for the first time with Mobius hosted in Mainstage at the = Y2K12 in Santa Cruz, with mixed results. I appreciated everyone's = positive comments on my set, and felt alright about it, but I am = somewhat of a perfectionist, so I was hoping to get some help here on a = couple problems that I had. Three main problems I experienced: I use a nanoKontroller to mix, mute, and pan directly to Mobius, but I = also like to use the keyboard keys sometimes for things like Record = ("r"), Multiply ("m"), Mute ("u"), etc. But, when I try to use the keys = on my MB Pro, they either didn't respond, or did something completely = different from what they do when I use Mobius as a standalone with the = nanoKontroller. It seems to be something to do with using Mobius as a = plug-in. Also, if, for example, I want to switch to loop two on track one by = pressing the down arrow on the MB keyboard, nothing happens. So, I was = forced to stick to the same loop in every track while using Mobius with = Mainstage. This meant that in any of my pieces where I used multiple = loops on the same track (usually never more than 4 loops), I had to use = Mobius as a standalone, as I have always done in the past, without = effects. =20 Also, for some reason some of the other plugins didn't seem to work, = such as the Apple pedalboard plugin which I had intended to use vocally = for fuzz and delay effects, but this may have just been my own user = error. =20 Do you have any insight for me on how to use Mobius as a plugin with = Mainstage, and still have the MB Pro's keyboard functionality = redundantly with the nanoKontroller's buttons, so I can use one or the = other as desired on the fly? Michael 3x09= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 01:01:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BC97183465; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=mkuU4lWfoYybQKmWNsTYd1arughHVoCfsR7+fB+XK9I=; b=rygWbQ8L3h9JguV57DjYkZ+AFmF4itvyGHg1J7xJ/Z315RziVm8bkorZKtPEHX75wE k1fpUUfEI7jdEknvpcTAEnh2JLwBYAqrYsCnYb7imSlLxJWbXUJs8wFMI3mDvbnb4By5 Y06922NERAxOz7MaRQlVNklweSyPvlHE8q2NToEQoWzTFS3C2rLY9ggfd063Xfc5KMUm GbSIh4qrmsCpck6Cg8wKkguTp3QzPWKf/+mPunF5V5DT1QlPhSzjzHxLCTkBDmooFU3r VC5CvswI3G6A41xPmc95KF2ttQHOHU/GYezXBs5cz/hErbwndwWvGXOd81GOUJIgGfOY WT4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D79EF@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:01:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius in Mainstage Mishaps and Misses From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7ddd71faae04cd2835ea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:01:27 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7ddd71faae04cd2835ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not sure since i dont use mainstage or have a mac. But I do know that unless you have the mobius window focused on the front of the screen, it will not respond to keystrokes as a plugin. Also, you might have had a different set of keyboard bindings in mobius when you opened it as a pluggin. maybe you could check that? On Oct 28, 2012 5:55 PM, "TripleOhNine" <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote: > The looping fest in Santa Cruz was awesome, and I was honored to be > invited to do vocal looping. > > I performed for the first time with Mobius hosted in Mainstage at the > Y2K12 in Santa Cruz, with mixed results. I appreciated everyone's positive > comments on my set, and felt alright about it, but I am somewhat of a > perfectionist, so I was hoping to get some help here on a couple problems > that I had. > > Three main problems I experienced: > > I use a nanoKontroller to mix, mute, and pan directly to Mobius, but I > also like to use the keyboard keys sometimes for things like Record ("r"), > Multiply ("m"), Mute ("u"), etc. But, when I try to use the keys on my MB > Pro, they either didn't respond, or did something completely different from > what they do when I use Mobius as a standalone with the nanoKontroller. It > seems to be something to do with using Mobius as a plug-in. > > Also, if, for example, I want to switch to loop two on track one by > pressing the down arrow on the MB keyboard, nothing happens. So, I was > forced to stick to the same loop in every track while using Mobius with > Mainstage. This meant that in any of my pieces where I used multiple loops > on the same track (usually never more than 4 loops), I had to use Mobius as > a standalone, as I have always done in the past, without effects. > > Also, for some reason some of the other plugins didn't seem to work, such > as the Apple pedalboard plugin which I had intended to use vocally for fuzz > and delay effects, but this may have just been my own user error. > > Do you have any insight for me on how to use Mobius as a plugin with > Mainstage, and still have the MB Pro's keyboard functionality redundantly > with the nanoKontroller's buttons, so I can use one or the other as desired > on the fly? > > Michael > 3x09 > --0016e6db7ddd71faae04cd2835ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not sure since i dont use mainstage or have a mac. But I do know that un= less you have the mobius window focused on the front of the screen, it will= not respond to keystrokes as a plugin. Also, you might have had a differen= t set of keyboard bindings in mobius when you opened it as a pluggin. maybe= you could check that?

On Oct 28, 2012 5:55 PM, "TripleOhNine"= ; <3x09@carlsonarts.com> = wrote:
The looping fest in Santa Cruz was awesome, and I was honored to be invited= to do vocal looping.

I performed for the first time with Mobius hosted in Mainstage at the Y2K12= in Santa Cruz, with mixed results. =A0I appreciated everyone's positiv= e comments on my set, and felt alright about it, but I am somewhat of a per= fectionist, so I was hoping to get some help here on a couple problems that= I had.

Three main problems I experienced:

I use a nanoKontroller to mix, mute, and pan directly to Mobius, but I also= like to use the keyboard keys sometimes for things like Record ("r&qu= ot;), Multiply ("m"), Mute ("u"), etc. =A0But, when I t= ry to use the keys on my MB Pro, they either didn't respond, or did som= ething completely different from what they do when I use Mobius as a standa= lone with the nanoKontroller. =A0It seems to be something to do with using = Mobius as a plug-in.

Also, if, for example, I want to switch to loop two on track one by pressin= g the down arrow on the MB keyboard, nothing happens. =A0So, I was forced t= o stick to the same loop in every track while using Mobius with Mainstage. = =A0This meant that in any of my pieces where I used multiple loops on the s= ame track (usually never more than 4 loops), I had to use Mobius as a stand= alone, as I have always done in the past, without effects.

Also, for some reason some of the other plugins didn't seem to work, su= ch as the Apple pedalboard plugin which I had intended to use vocally for f= uzz and delay effects, but this may have just been my own user error.

Do you have any insight for me on how to use Mobius as a plugin with Mainst= age, and still have the MB Pro's keyboard functionality redundantly wit= h the nanoKontroller's buttons, so I can use one or the other as desire= d on the fly?

Michael
3x09
--0016e6db7ddd71faae04cd2835ea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 01:53:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5B01183473; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wHX13mOcO0ykeEhYWUfb9uVJX2+sZlLX9bH6XuIJvng=; b=GIFiCP9Z+LuchtJKq2Nz4y1x+a7GRfNOe97kDHSloJGEI492vCWar/GjnDo6OcAGue jdGJk05brXh+TqKH7KVW1tbprz3ZzqtGcOj5PVQjgHjOuoaEdTQdeOUqzxjT5eQxFm/p p/aVpikGGQo/S/DxQrP8amDrUTKN8NAYc8Ve0kH9AxggdJPRBh5RwPMabQm2HVCoWFtY 1FgUp94abkfew8ya1xudESCDNa3lhCI3PMKfHR92sWGgvuvVSfXB87F5Uq3d7kQz3Iv2 3mVjCZUesyI75weOK5BXcfYt0gWtB5CP+ArtxSvZvH5mkJsX6SKuiWML5czVLlzatiJ3 dRGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D79EF@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:53:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius in Mainstage Mishaps and Misses From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0iDKgB.A.V3G.BGejQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Michael, Mainstage blocks the computer keyboard keys from being detected by the Mobius plugin. This is because Mainstage has its won key commands and it also has a virtual keyboard that is played by the computer keys when activated. I am a big fan of using key commands with Mobius but when I moved from Mobius standalone to using it as a plugin in Mainstage I had to adapt by moving some of my commands to a little MIDI button pad instead of tapping the computer keys. I also use Ableton Live as host for Mobius and in this environment the Mobius key commands work, given the Mobius plugin GUI widow is at front. This is tricky, you have to remember that if you use the mouse to adjust a mixier fader in Live Mobius is no more at front (Live is now) and key commands do not work. So you need to click inside the Mobius GUI window after having moused around in Live. When using Bidule as the host for Mobius key commands always work... for the simple reason that you never need to click or mouse anything in Bidule, it is just like a routing hub. But if you click inside the Bidule window Mobius key commands take a vacation until you click in the Mobius window again. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:55 AM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote: > The looping fest in Santa Cruz was awesome, and I was honored to be invit= ed to do vocal looping. > > I performed for the first time with Mobius hosted in Mainstage at the Y2K= 12 in Santa Cruz, with mixed results. I appreciated everyone's positive co= mments on my set, and felt alright about it, but I am somewhat of a perfect= ionist, so I was hoping to get some help here on a couple problems that I h= ad. > > Three main problems I experienced: > > I use a nanoKontroller to mix, mute, and pan directly to Mobius, but I al= so like to use the keyboard keys sometimes for things like Record ("r"), Mu= ltiply ("m"), Mute ("u"), etc. But, when I try to use the keys on my MB Pr= o, they either didn't respond, or did something completely different from w= hat they do when I use Mobius as a standalone with the nanoKontroller. It = seems to be something to do with using Mobius as a plug-in. > > Also, if, for example, I want to switch to loop two on track one by press= ing the down arrow on the MB keyboard, nothing happens. So, I was forced t= o stick to the same loop in every track while using Mobius with Mainstage. = This meant that in any of my pieces where I used multiple loops on the sam= e track (usually never more than 4 loops), I had to use Mobius as a standal= one, as I have always done in the past, without effects. > > Also, for some reason some of the other plugins didn't seem to work, such= as the Apple pedalboard plugin which I had intended to use vocally for fuz= z and delay effects, but this may have just been my own user error. > > Do you have any insight for me on how to use Mobius as a plugin with Main= stage, and still have the MB Pro's keyboard functionality redundantly with = the nanoKontroller's buttons, so I can use one or the other as desired on t= he fly? > > Michael > 3x09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 01:56:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E64C183466; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 619802.39193.bm@omp1026.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1351475791; bh=iOuFPc7n61+ZIsIm1Loq0jza5PLTMjcuhXXYdJudl+0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Jf4f5TW27m2U5GusLM9RA0GVjse13e+uXfFjQY55LRp+cZOE3PTqlH7PnYUkU3g0GwlzUlavIlH+etbOQvuRfwI4Jwtctncu5ZFd0/Di3X62BjN7Rx46M49pf114Ib+GzjNBThHUjLteTh1ZEH7Ce5FMUuOhaHrZz5Elik0YHSI= X-YMail-OSG: 5ZcKgcMVM1nbPIvQAgSV5NjHOW432UvzXN2rnS6diNvA8Jn mX83gEXAg25MpwGI3fLtLBS9ay1ncteQQl5uJv5VAkWYvUqpOUzCiJ9mDpkQ _3EbrZKeZ4Z3gSktTlmymGiWBFV9knwG3R7Uk3XWhMf8eXSUgXVDj9FjFjHA M2UKoHZKdJDLuZ.5rTkuNAo8tGK.3jrgOv7JWxlFnl5BArRw.xPjN7ll.0qg zB2SQYqSkK1SvRz12WGB4NbQapga6p6XDznkXXVx1Km5Cl7tiNpxFVxi6qAx wbE1yxzcFJOfHEbRMXYqThVL4xTwRUPWdWltKUaQaHEM3c510OtvpFm51IGs NB9a_zWulpZdOwT8zX7mbnKJwbM3CQsG44CgpGrF_L0a9NmSupPU3DlY1qlf DBBzOWsp8dfzlxMvDzBYGHbouZo7XgQya2RebaESFZz7YePZUpV.VJqVROXz xQSdnmt0llEXscNtREdK6gYx0e.j7QcPUE2Zm4op.k_BcXPNHVyfIRXaqSIL 31V_D2SgBES8TM3bL5cNZT1Od2kj96Jko0zlafuOAsQyovd1qQZB4X.CxZNC u09QYrkZ8qxUZfp9cRb9iiwXBWRQ0kXO4u5IttkloJk2_QWFpmw2A_NiyCAg jGFOdmZtQ938eS8KDy1be0Fqv.7BnIuVfr5RB0_xqP8jJq1K90fQ2ejFrVwp qEyKmFwvkw6Ovvd3XLL4d5ZBSnoY49gLI1.3IZdjLYXG8zU9WgkPrRo7lFyp bgA-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,VGhhdCBpcyBhIGdyZWF0IHN0b3J5LCBhbmQgU3RhbiwgaXQgd2FzIGEgam95IHRvIG1lZXQgeW91LCBhbmQgdG8gaGVhciAoYW5kIEZFRUwpIHRoZSBhbGwtb3ZlciBzb25pYyBtYXNzYWdlIHRoYXQgd2FzIHlvdXIgcGVyZm9ybWFuY2UuIEl0IHdhcyBvbmUgb2YgdGhlIGhpZ2ggcG9pbnRzIG9mIFkySzEyLCBhbiBldmVudCB3aGljaCBJIHdpbGwgY291bnQgYXMgb25lIG9mIG15IGxpZmUncyBwZWFrIGV4cGVyaWVuY2VzIHRodXMgZmFyLiAoVGhhbmtzIGFnYWluIHRvIFJpY2sgYW5kIHRvIGV2ZXJ5Ym9keSABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1351475791.44422.YahooMailClassic@web84512.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:56:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, stanitarium@earthlink.net In-Reply-To: <4876189.1351372776922.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0oIn8C.A.8-G.RJejQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:56:34 +0000 (UTC) That is a great story, and Stan, it was a joy to meet you, and to hear (and= FEEL) the all-over sonic massage that was your performance. It was one of = the high points of Y2K12, an event which I will count as one of my life's p= eak experiences thus far. (Thanks again to Rick and to everybody involved.)= =0A=0ATim Mungenast=0AEditor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmun= genast=0AGuitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast=0A= =0A=0A--- On Sat, 10/27/12, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote:=0A=0A> From: stanitarium@earthlink.net =0A> Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12=0A> To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 5:19 PM=0A> I= am way humble=0A> thank you Rick for that story...you just never know.=0A>= =0A> http://stanosaur.com/=0A> =0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> >From: = Rick Walker =0A> >Sent: Oct 27, 2012 1:25 PM=0A> >To: = "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" =0A> >Subj= ect: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12=0A> >=0A> >One of our volunteers,=A0 T= odd Kramer,=A0 brought=0A> his=0A> >son,=A0 Neville to the the Y2K12 loop f= estival.=0A> >=0A> >While Todd graciously did the door,=A0 Neville had=0A> = his eyes glued to the =0A> >stage.=0A> >He saw many performances (as well a= s with his dad when=0A> he wasn't working).=0A> >=0A> >Maha told me that he= went to his school right afterwards=0A> and beatboxed=0A> >for the kids an= d then taught them how to do=0A> it.=A0=A0=A0He also taught them =0A> >abou= t live looping,=0A> >which they didn't know about.=0A> >=0A> >He also said = that one of his favorite artists was Stan=0A> Card (aka =0A> >Stanosaur) wh= o only=0A> >used high volume feedback to create his looping=0A> performance= .=0A> >=0A> >Afterwards,=A0 Neville went home and put microphones=0A> into = different drums, =0A> >turned up=0A> >the volume to create feedback and the= n manipulated the=0A> feedback as he =0A> >looped the=0A> >results live.=A0= All on his own.=0A> >=0A> >Neville is 9 years old!=0A> >=0A> >All the hard= work we did for the festival this year was=0A> worth it if only =0A> >for = this story of=0A> >creativity, growth and excitement.=A0=A0=A0This=0A> stor= y is so inspiring to me.=A0=A0=A0=0A> >I'm going to=0A> >go out and put mic= s in my drum and create some feedback=0A> today.=0A> >=0A> >Rick Walker=0A>= >=0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 03:09:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65069183461; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=drLShbuUlwY7h8LhKKtjLcl5LE696pms2cCtNO6bn0E=; b=zqEKOeZhk48emT3HYSOeYXdPVV6x1ZcrMvnPkPR6mbd/RxEGKhctr9Yc0gERxYTEy/ N7ETkJezz2gSnnT3JIsdXQZAPAId/6z9n96N7pF/JtuqDjZKqN9fIsMF2PMdBlJewu/6 zApRxUi1gMuK9t1K+kmHtPsHbA9DXMtc8cMIcXAqNiIGuARh54nxpSgntlZNjaYOnXJB 3HUxclWeoTW1+ckU/sYjELQJHX2eHj91fT4B8PvZTI1mcPQ1YKrfveTRNCt0tIZqIPFT 0gtgfxeJcM8jbQdMpnL61fxuL0AisEkhZTvjQrZpz6V3Qi62YcpGWzwc90IFNERGuooW irHw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:09:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: archive.org has resurrected the old IUMA recordings From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99fc0e1331604cd29ff6f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:09:38 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99fc0e1331604cd29ff6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all those old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine: http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I think I'm most proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder from my trip to Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle Sounds" from Taman Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli" performance. I also really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to my apartment at 5 am one morning in San Francisco. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com --0016e6d99fc0e1331604cd29ff6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found this out on the Audiomulch list, arc= hive.org has put up all those old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see = mine:
Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I think I= 9;m most proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder from my= trip to Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle Sounds= " from Taman Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang As= li" performance. I also really liked the recording of the garbage truc= k driving up to my apartment at 5 am one morning in San Francisco.=A0

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Art Simon
simart@gmail.com

--0016e6d99fc0e1331604cd29ff6f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 03:46:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3440B183465; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=9f7UBR9ZdvsA8kTnNaS9E65z5R6rk/iUXVZz9+ajZU8=; b=yYNDOQbaQrZY64PIKcBjrcf16AQgljIy/oE8CBzvy4Iy9AYQrNqZ738GbVPZ87sa0U ARBWahCfti5/Q1ugJ9jKgTkFRqAePcdpnMyWSWTEeJb0j3Gh97ijGJX+xtzo9CRQancl U7p6Et2i8tZ0BFqhV97zBh7IjkFOY0tvzdvlAg3Bt8xJPBHMLqYOiNOatYfpXkWaAw2w cb3Xo3Vj4mlTGAS9mV4dSneiXE7JbeX28b9XUTi/vbdc3yiiltXaEnpFkZjevlZ4Cks/ unWAAeRwGhdN3nyAAo+PJuYwqoC0SA4DhRaLRDeGiSgb4IfafQ+zleG2DSIY7qcppmuu jvtw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:45:45 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MpvMVB0PByFOtRV7v0YkX-YZcEE Message-ID: Subject: a new album, "Melting River" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343e2a55598304cd2a8237 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:46:06 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343e2a55598304cd2a8237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear List, I wanted to share with you a new album I've just released, oh, about 10 minutes ago. Initially, I wanted to record it all with a looper, and to perform it live -- I even bought a softstep and had a brief masterclass with my guru Todd [Reynolds, not Rundgren] but the music got a little too complicated for that, and the deadlines I was dealing with. Still, the music is very loop-inspired, including my first trials in Ableton.. You can listen to it for free at http://Ljova.bandcamp.com/album/melting-river I would of course be excited to hear your thoughts. Thank you! warmly, Ljova -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom --047d7b343e2a55598304cd2a8237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear List,

I wanted to share with you a new a= lbum I've just released, oh, about 10 minutes ago.
Initially,= I wanted to record it all with a looper, and to perform it live -- I even = bought a softstep and had a brief masterclass with my guru Todd [Reynolds, = not Rundgren] but the music got a little too complicated for that, and the = deadlines I was dealing with.

Still, the music is very loop-inspired, including my fi= rst trials in Ableton..

You can listen to it for f= ree at http://Ljo= va.bandcamp.com/album/melting-river

I would of course be excited to hear your thoughts.

Thank you!

warmly,
Ljova

--047d7b343e2a55598304cd2a8237-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 06:58:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57C26183474; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=56O8xuXLyijzo10qkLZ6UL+smvzltvhnSD/FTFKN4NQ=; b=nvtcGS1KKvTd7caK+cp2WCMe0so4mbaV/Rp11c2DXOJg/oGa4N08SuSYy4X7sJ8vP7 UhLTNVyye2lagmsWDtXqOxG2KUVTqh+s6spLR+dCk50wMBLsGknzW5q4bH+agqwhauaO LOzJpZfnF2mddcaLdNuDOPcm1aMk7SQwLvA1TLs1UQDFZwyA/lgUNGT9R7MyRktmFBd5 RT9SixXFjNpU6LdAuGuaaw3lr5dJb8lNPh1BhRf6POmkabLGFFOoOZtgCe+XjnsZTcnr WP5gzw1+VvC/iLmWzLwF6KeiQZymxm8+/P4OU2NsEj1yyuAJa+A2i50N61Qdv78HQjG8 QUlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:58:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Does anybody use the beheinger UCA 202 or 222? From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7ddd9f515504cd2d33e6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:58:51 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7ddd9f515504cd2d33e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 --0016e6db7ddd9f515504cd2d33e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 --0016e6db7ddd9f515504cd2d33e6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 08:11:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 817BF183475; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: LOOPERS-DELIGHT@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=TmC2AjZdPwn45Q+zY0XEZ8GowudBkxwIQqCyX85veomReBe0RaHYTTUpCCQOcdzP; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <20060277.1351498280981.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:11:20 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 Cc: loop list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd485d1f32eae149694a1ca3ff3d9694dda193caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: <1zCXh.A.FgC.0ojjQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:11:32 +0000 (UTC) aww Tim -nice that you could stand it! I hardly hear any niceties about the= music I do. it is a labor of love-and when people come along like you, my = heart soars like an eagle. so, I will keep on keeping on-just for folks lik= e you that "getitt"(or-don't get it and just try to be nice) which is not a= bad thing. it was nice meeting you too. Rockkonn yall -----Original Message----- >From: Tim Mungenast >Sent: Oct 28, 2012 6:56 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, stanitarium@earthlink.net >Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 > >That is a great story, and Stan, it was a joy to meet you, and to hear (an= d FEEL) the all-over sonic massage that was your performance. It was one of= the high points of Y2K12, an event which I will count as one of my life's = peak experiences thus far. (Thanks again to Rick and to everybody involved.= ) > >Tim Mungenast >Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast >Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast > > >--- On Sat, 10/27/12, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: > >> From: stanitarium@earthlink.net >> Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 5:19 PM >> I am way humble >> thank you Rick for that story...you just never know. >>=20 >> http://stanosaur.com/ >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Rick Walker >> >Sent: Oct 27, 2012 1:25 PM >> >To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" >> >Subject: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 >> > >> >One of our volunteers,=C2=A0 Todd Kramer,=C2=A0 brought >> his >> >son,=C2=A0 Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival. >> > >> >While Todd graciously did the door,=C2=A0 Neville had >> his eyes glued to the=20 >> >stage. >> >He saw many performances (as well as with his dad when >> he wasn't working). >> > >> >Maha told me that he went to his school right afterwards >> and beatboxed >> >for the kids and then taught them how to do >> it.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0He also taught them=20 >> >about live looping, >> >which they didn't know about. >> > >> >He also said that one of his favorite artists was Stan >> Card (aka=20 >> >Stanosaur) who only >> >used high volume feedback to create his looping >> performance. >> > >> >Afterwards,=C2=A0 Neville went home and put microphones >> into different drums,=20 >> >turned up >> >the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the >> feedback as he=20 >> >looped the >> >results live.=C2=A0 All on his own. >> > >> >Neville is 9 years old! >> > >> >All the hard work we did for the festival this year was >> worth it if only=20 >> >for this story of >> >creativity, growth and excitement.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0This >> story is so inspiring to me.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >> >I'm going to >> >go out and put mics in my drum and create some feedback >> today. >> > >> >Rick Walker >> > >>=20 >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 12:41:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 476E0183475; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=clhDryLeQXAclmb4PF65ojDkaKQJYKyUf+Rbm62nP5Y=; b=Mn7CBoyQuVtsUwxBGFKcAIoHdUnxLWVlcjjlpM/aAZSR+aH88igOdvtOPf+AUiw3ex GOK2KwsMtkpwwiJSCVgqpn6+ePL+DjsU21xzGvuhwO0WVqiMP02HL0Vp0ExKKHGnML/C cjHW6GSOccaaA7kGprHy1uAylZuEZBS/4U83ATDOX4gIGFczaMBhKSDpJaTI1W3f9h4i Ec9Vq3Go86rC16rsYlJK8ihcEEgOddpdIQ3+gYgnTsv8rbZwhIVlfcv6TjnkZcn5SQ4e QqSCHQwZDfw7/VoTp1ffo4yk3TcTaTsd8XwtWE+sDrDWMLkXBQzhdefPmOrQ2prx9nyq perw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:41:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: archive.org has resurrected the old IUMA recordings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Cool - it's like an online museum, but fully active! :-) In the nineties I wrote books in Sweden about the booming online "Internet Music" and IUMA was where it started. One of my books was commissioned by the Swedish Arts and Culture Counsel as a recourse for educating politicians. Nice to see parts of the legendary archive back online, but I guess it is not complete, as it actually is labeled "Collection" here. Listening to your old stuff. Nice music! Yes, the Garbage Truck piece is exciting. Enjoying stereo field you captured in most of the field recordings. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Art Simon wrote: > I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all those > old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine: > http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon > Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I think I'm most > proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder from my trip to > Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle Sounds" from Taman > Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli" performance. I also > really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to my apartment > at 5 am one morning in San Francisco. > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 13:57:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01DC4183475; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Q1uHcYK2+8DNL6qF/UuqUmveUdf1gOdy4bmcEjQsvyA=; b=gdapRPuSzxTJZyt71eQ5ifs8jF8tc/UtV+yKmx8zKKwF6m2S1L2rAmpje9OYvO7jre jTnjGDPRXjwWArdoPYbKkbTXRsSsWuqnxvEBCFYTyogDEf4QmBqmc+OfSdtA4yHKn9aN AhkXJPLFlhNm7BNQ9DW+6KKbOnUN15haXNAUD8h9wBJW2Zu0PH3fqC7Hxqw6FvCBAxvR wXG6TVse/uLL+mm9FL3vIzjzMpJligql6Y+EmzGerbej0vbnHUiPWYkUtX1sHbSOxRqY qzchRWU4rjbJAt8GXUbW7TUq6A2cv2sVbKNPYuz5q3RR2dW3EwsgZE2oQ38hwY90yTEj 92kg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:56:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: archive.org has resurrected the old IUMA recordings From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99fc02145bb04cd330a1b Resent-Message-ID: <1nrIJD.A.rBG.HtojQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:57:27 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99fc02145bb04cd330a1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for listening Per, I'm glad you liked it! On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Cool - it's like an online museum, but fully active! :-) In the > nineties I wrote books in Sweden about the booming online "Internet > Music" and IUMA was where it started. One of my books was commissioned > by the Swedish Arts and Culture Counsel as a recourse for educating > politicians. Nice to see parts of the legendary archive back online, > but I guess it is not complete, as it actually is labeled "Collection" > here. > > Listening to your old stuff. Nice music! Yes, the Garbage Truck piece > is exciting. Enjoying stereo field you captured in most of the field > recordings. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Art Simon wrote: > > I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all > those > > old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine: > > http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon > > Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I think I'm > most > > proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder from my trip to > > Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle Sounds" from Taman > > Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli" performance. I > also > > really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to my > apartment > > at 5 am one morning in San Francisco. > > > > -- > > Art Simon > > simart@gmail.com > > > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com --0016e6d99fc02145bb04cd330a1b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for listening Per, I'm glad you liked it!

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Per Boysen &= lt;perboysen@gmail= .com> wrote:
Cool - it's like an online museum, but f= ully active! :-) =A0In the
nineties I wrote books in Sweden about the booming online "Internet Music" and IUMA was where it started. One of my books was commissioned=
by the Swedish Arts and Culture Counsel as a recourse for educating
politicians. Nice to see parts of the legendary archive back online,
but I guess it is not complete, as it actually is labeled "Collection&= quot;
here.

Listening to your old stuff. Nice music! Yes, the Garbage Truck piece
is exciting. Enjoying stereo field you captured in most of the field
recordings.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all those
> old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine:
> http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon
> Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I think I= 9;m most
> proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder from my tri= p to
> Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle Sounds&quo= t; from Taman
> Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli" perf= ormance. I also
> really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to my apart= ment
> at 5 am one morning in San Francisco.
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
>




--
= Art Simon
simart@g= mail.com

--0016e6d99fc02145bb04cd330a1b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 19:02:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1690183474; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 264658.75694.bm@omp1054.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1351537342; bh=Zhwwu9FsOkh9jHQy600PBaClgJ3Rbgf/toW32y3iBfE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OBA4aNQoXqtnFNXXPefHkuQsZEFdaNPGPRpE3sv/VtX+zkSrHH3z6ViBW4gJJZp2DWt+8QiVecAGcShcamFY/mLXYzK4fI7xRts0mL6KfCK822xX6dl5nYQchitpB7Tq3q7mdMeWRNF/4ZV1vgAuItUceKEYiLetWmTFkUzvzJs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qaa7PYk/U8DlTxEJuLnqibXXqkOxjKoWGwpbzuhC+fWUS8BtzrzlcTL4nI8T7CmC+f7BMB7J1zXcgros4jSQZ3MTXLM/cc8msYzWllRvBWzqR2yT4/oG/TfMNuY+Sm3RjnF+SoNq0giT20nU2j4CwXVOOd5zpti5CCPRmr/WEUg=; X-YMail-OSG: IHoQm5kVM1keNHfSe7TasDHeLL3xZv0N4l2hE5WgP6U7tGT XLMUZlWEYAO8HIIjs.Lrr1rBf5Bbb4JwI2_.NZH.5UeztPcIZYfD5Imq6WCx x49129PqzzvGovMe0S1t8HhNN8Uh685PgPA0riz_V3t_m.Po3XPxfdM_.0M5 MwFKFNOXDUps0Y2c7Lct5RyeZe8ko0WmCd5HSBrp2iYazYpDS.UofBU927Hu 1iD8MLEH5BwgNIaQP22HqKY_1krCyHsgLLeMF2ZdTT_ae3i19.oRzHu2Ck1E 75zmNoNVJSC7HPoyjUOSDTaU4JWPbKdwQEIol9QDWL094vn_3OCItABmSxP5 zPOQ9vv.rw2haN98z8GAuYdv0xZKeW8amH3E7gLOh22EUt9ACmgLW7fW.x8. z.yGia9XVuTYsNrNbkedKtD.WmULeAzmyigMFF1hznziWwDublPqzXrDWv8k gh9DSvoCrwZ0h3jlgc9nIZ._6yutM4YaaUTetKrLEUfmZWMkh2jslAm29il9 UKyNmv7eMpwNLA_39c664rSXSxE4ue9LXmMbzHwQMA_eoEcpJ_o2ZjRTIn89 ZUkpvQkv.rss6egjq2NCXMJe4xCe.b0Jjy7oy9OeQaMwVHmUnsl2O3cmoXhq Z.AKxDpQyZZQmmnFeoumssPHsDVpxNMYIDgpQMoOpYrnG1DV0lqYob9_TGdX Yjrro.SaGKVeoi60dOmot4Pjv38H_7czMDVkRDnszk9eXsVtDTS3MaWwxUP_ OPQUBWz_FAWj1NF2I.J4VXV1nXwSXsJF.nWRHXerI7OFvbzETe7Db7rPZSjr 3jXKxtCM- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,TGpvdmEswqAKCkNvbmdyYXR1bGF0aW9ucyBvbiB5b3VyIGFsYnVtIHJlbGVhc2UhIEJlYXV0aWZ1bCBzdHVmZiEgwqBMaXN0ZW5pbmcgbm93LiBOaWNlIGdyb292ZXMgaGVhciBhbmQgdGhlcmUgYW5kIGEgcmVhbCBldGhlcmVhbCB2aWJlIG92ZXIgYWxsLiDCoEknbSBhIGNvbnRyYSBiYXNzaXN0IGFuZCByZWFsbHkgbG92ZSB0aGUgYm93ZWQgc3RyaW5nIHNvdW5kcywgZ3JlYXQgam9iIG9uIGFsbCB0aGUgY29tcG9zaXRpb25zIGFuZCBwbGF5aW5nLCBJJ2xsIHJlY29tbWVuZCB0aGlzIHRvIGZyaWVuZHMuIAEwAQEBAQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: Message-ID: <1351537341.29231.YahooMailNeo@web121203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Reply-To: Steve Uccello Subject: Re: a new album, "Melting River" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1087320363-2113580419-1351537341=:29231" Resent-Message-ID: <8OBm3D.A.8DB._KtjQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:02:23 +0000 (UTC) --1087320363-2113580419-1351537341=:29231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ljova,=A0=0A=0ACongratulations on your album release! Beautiful stuff! =A0L= istening now. Nice grooves hear and there and a real ethereal vibe over all= . =A0I'm a contra bassist and really love the bowed string sounds, great jo= b on all the compositions and playing, I'll recommend this to friends. =A0S= teve Uccello=0A=0Awww.clarifiedbirds.com=A0=0A=0A=0A_______________________= _________=0A From: Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin =0ATo: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:45 PM=0ASubject= : a new album, "Melting River"=0A =0A=0ADear List,=0A=0AI wanted to share w= ith you a new album I've just released, oh, about 10 minutes ago.=0AInitial= ly, I wanted to record it all with a looper, and to perform it live -- I ev= en bought a softstep and had a brief masterclass with my guru Todd [Reynold= s, not Rundgren] but the music got a little too complicated for that, and t= he deadlines I was dealing with.=0A=0AStill, the music is very loop-inspire= d, including my first trials in Ableton..=0A=0AYou can listen to it for fre= e at http://Ljova.bandcamp.com/album/melting-river=0A=0AI would of course b= e excited to hear your thoughts.=0A=0AThank you!=0A=0Awarmly,=0ALjova=0A=0A= -- =0ALev 'Ljova' Zhurbin=0A=0AWeb: http://Ljova.com=0AListen: http://www.L= jova.com/demos=0AWatch: http://Ljova.com/videos=0AIMDb: http://imdb.me/ljov= a=0AFollow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom --1087320363-2113580419-1351537341=:29231 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ljova, 
Congratulations on your album release! Beautif= ul stuff!  Listening now. Nice grooves hear and there and a real ether= eal vibe over all.  I'm a contra bassist and really love the bowed str= ing sounds, great job on all the compositions and playing, I'll recommend t= his to friends.  Steve Uccello

= www.clarifiedbirds.com 

From: Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <lj= ova@ljova.com>
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:45 PM
Subject: a new album, "Melting River"
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Dear List,

<= /div>
I wanted to share with you a new album I've just released, oh, ab= out 10 minutes ago.
Initially, I wanted to record it all with a looper, and to = perform it live -- I even bought a softstep and had a brief masterclass wit= h my guru Todd [Reynolds, not Rundgren] but the music got a little too comp= licated for that, and the deadlines I was dealing with.
=0A=0A
Still, the music is very loop-inspired, including my first tria= ls in Ableton..

You can listen to it for free at <= a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://Ljova.bandcamp.com/albu= m/melting-river">http://Ljova.bandcamp.com/album/melting-river
=0A= =0A

I would of course be excited to hear your thoughts.<= /div>

Thank you!

warmly,
<= div>Ljova

=0A


--1087320363-2113580419-1351537341=:29231-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 20:53:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B589C183462; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=FUR+eZyxkWO8SJIMe8CH0SuneBWHkr5Loh1IK9YCnh8=; b=YogvkZbDkkFG9I1QiIZoGMn/lnmFockeMDOErAzhm7JPbAztElvpXdgbEwmOhT/ANC pjTVBesBIPkZX/AKixQrkhuZkT+DuXusrhniUKHietEnTtxFPFMOaqrW/DyyxFNA0yPU 38xol5gJ+KppXhk0AbJNLUxNLVOyLnAxJlUl4xT33rnTWheUUt5iCp1aDTxDylFLBcSs MFYwbjKMWgvAvRmWC9WR5oIsB9afYUomdbD14+pyLHMR0r13SZ5E+/1jjaCosLW//IUd KAxzWdwSTDjzKQWiYc1ddc6o4JHLGBiXqZKFrCwALl5T5QWPxdIuHVoJ+A609wiGpvlg S8hw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [74.95.204.174] From: Amy Lee Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:52:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Another little demo To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64567251d7104cd38db84 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn1zXuNJGPIglDx+6MHZEFHbIP1At4xGBjx/5XDe3Fq4hsd8YDb4zcnsGyhQnvVPym/8rv4 Resent-Message-ID: <4c2T-C.A.TEC.yyujQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:53:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d64567251d7104cd38db84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Howdy loopers! :) I'm enjoying reading the conversations on this list. The VoiceTouch Live is amazing---I wish I could sing. :) I thought this might be of interest since a few people asked me what/how I was doing. I put together another video demo doing looped sequencing on the iPad with the app NanoStudio: http://youtu.be/0Grv9uP-KNo The trick with this is that when a track is armed for recording you can still play notes on an attached keyboard and have the new notes go into the last track you were looking at. Then you can jump over to the Song screen (where you can see all looping tracks) and do things like mute tracks, delete track data, or change to a new track. I figured out a new trick: it turns out that "muting" a track doesn't actually do that. It just stops sending sequence data. So by selecting the track that has a looped sequence on it, you can hit the Mute button and keep playing notes with the keyboard. That really helps change up the monotony of having the same 4-bar sequence repeated ad infinitum. In this demo I'm muting the bass sequence then playing a new progression, then when I'm done I can unmute the sequence to bring the old bass pattern back. Amy / ANI --0016e6d64567251d7104cd38db84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy loopers! :) I'm enjoying reading the conversations on this list. = The VoiceTouch Live is amazing---I wish I could sing. :)

I thought this might be of interest since a few people asked me what/how I= was doing. I put together another video demo doing looped sequencing on th= e iPad with the app NanoStudio:


The trick with this is that when = a track is armed for recording you can still play notes on an attached keyb= oard and have the new notes go into the last track you were looking at. The= n you can jump over to the Song screen (where you can see all looping track= s) and do things like mute tracks, delete track data, or change to a new tr= ack.

I figured out a new trick: it turns out that "muti= ng" a track doesn't actually do that. It just stops sending sequen= ce data. So by selecting the track that has a looped sequence on it, you ca= n hit the Mute button and keep playing notes with the keyboard. That really= helps change up the monotony of having the same 4-bar sequence repeated ad= infinitum. In this demo I'm muting the bass sequence then playing a ne= w progression, then when I'm done I can unmute the sequence to bring th= e old bass pattern back.

Amy / ANI

--0016e6d64567251d7104cd38db84-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 21:38:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A906183474; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Uizt8Aq22PBu/pg2HOTLJEA6nVKukrYEDA+e8qhoaww=; b=Cbh+XV5KWMBwLEHHwuXjaJq1vpwjbn/vZmKlwLSWPg3kW7NtcHTi61uyInoSZQep+6 izvp9fpm6rBtr4VR7RN9HbcTYjwSpEbBNYvrfeP8OO/txRG8v7lHi4jMWJCJhImel3iF X1Avr0ihUKvpS5Bkn8+VAsWl73+LhFvQ9AazMD0G26oy5hjQdjchv6CwoBr5rQ8l8UQ/ kPdOKbTMHcY5JKH80y5vkUCVRrQwceQ9as3OOQtbplJ57xSSHODDhWJmUA4tRgf3ym+k 71igpZB4Uj5Y5VbG1qsCe49K4Ri6mvZIxKEwgtSESVVTUXh6JqjoFC9neUejz/oxdISl EBOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:38:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another little demo From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:38:39 +0000 (UTC) It was fun with this camera angle that lets us follow how you keep manipulating all kind of things to create small variations that makes the music interesting while you also create new parts and arrange on the fly. Seems as you constantly are just about to make it in time :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Amy Lee wrote: > Howdy loopers! :) I'm enjoying reading the conversations on this list. The > VoiceTouch Live is amazing---I wish I could sing. :) > > I thought this might be of interest since a few people asked me what/how I > was doing. I put together another video demo doing looped sequencing on the > iPad with the app NanoStudio: > > http://youtu.be/0Grv9uP-KNo > > The trick with this is that when a track is armed for recording you can > still play notes on an attached keyboard and have the new notes go into the > last track you were looking at. Then you can jump over to the Song screen > (where you can see all looping tracks) and do things like mute tracks, > delete track data, or change to a new track. > > I figured out a new trick: it turns out that "muting" a track doesn't > actually do that. It just stops sending sequence data. So by selecting the > track that has a looped sequence on it, you can hit the Mute button and keep > playing notes with the keyboard. That really helps change up the monotony of > having the same 4-bar sequence repeated ad infinitum. In this demo I'm > muting the bass sequence then playing a new progression, then when I'm done > I can unmute the sequence to bring the old bass pattern back. > > Amy / ANI > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 22:52:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37E0183474; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=M1L+tomw5Mao0us89qhbuZFTYLK57f0UECmq7rwe7p8=; b=Cmanhs2LecQ2jZ+yDU1pCpGRBFeH2FugHc5++5RmiyO8ortSwqObDAN0FreK5CFhbQ MUm3vxWVACOyA9TLGxEhcUKgxaQQaFtjo+/lsVtm6L0DjPzsAAdGB/7q2KgZuDlxdGG5 aZ8rGXhRbN3BNzR60a09TyNHTg1JX+is+yo4VDtLdt1TkrutWY5z2YTfuDGeh7EkMdoS BWqYzlw42DJlzS60rfgZm/aTmN2RR/gEYqD5SnezOS3WdU0X4nFlVAwrZIZQGG42HUlF Q7cTZz+R8prKB/yM94Tlj+/0CAmE7nbGtavB9x0dCAnFVBx+7gweaucKNn9GXXFyEqmi +y+g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:52:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: archive.org has resurrected the old IUMA recordings From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1QCJ7C.A.FKD.ciwjQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Heh... those were the days. I still wax nostalgic about the online community that was mp3.com. (Lots of people had stuff up, and the site let you build "radio stations" by linking tracks from different artists into a big m3u file. It was a great way to find out about different indie artists. I'd like to see Bandcamp have some ideas like that! IUMA was kind of the "indie-er" mp3.com. Except their servers couldn't handle the traffic they were getting. Most attempts to upload or download any files resulted in timeouts. And they didn't have the same community building aspects. But my first ever CD-R release, "5 Spots" is up there - released in 1998 at the tender age of 23.... and recorded mostly on bass guitar. http://archive.org/details/iuma-matt_davignon (It's the first 15 tracks.) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Thanks for listening Per, I'm glad you liked it! > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Cool - it's like an online museum, but fully active! :-) In the >> nineties I wrote books in Sweden about the booming online "Internet >> Music" and IUMA was where it started. One of my books was commissioned >> by the Swedish Arts and Culture Counsel as a recourse for educating >> politicians. Nice to see parts of the legendary archive back online, >> but I guess it is not complete, as it actually is labeled "Collection" >> here. >> >> Listening to your old stuff. Nice music! Yes, the Garbage Truck piece >> is exciting. Enjoying stereo field you captured in most of the field >> recordings. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> > I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all >> > those >> > old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine: >> > http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon >> > Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I think I'm >> > most >> > proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder from my trip to >> > Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle Sounds" from >> > Taman >> > Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli" performance. I >> > also >> > really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to my >> > apartment >> > at 5 am one morning in San Francisco. >> > >> > -- >> > Art Simon >> > simart@gmail.com >> > >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 02:07:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93E4A183477; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=q9jGWDDL/ArxxeUHFOOAGSb3WMHTIGEI43da50kOUdQ=; b=K2hnqXSV74x6MkWmwuSXFknd9UIohuXZ4bt1HKbF85wHKAJFJBK/rOUfiWegwHOp1M uE4uAUQJRtFfWGYy9col6azFmGySPpCs7jBu200HJ6QuHFLDJAJuSfCmPpgR3eLXTO1l G/Wy08UZoJsFHzAzDeHpyJoZXirZxYYm3Lju36D7V4qZDca40VYkuBB7ior5+k49kC6C 8eSjWET//EdKKuE6f7jUE8I12gL0YHpTXhm9zxB+/OVdDzxCmRD6AVpq5jkowcGOqrqH mA1I+BdGHsBf5fVhSRiXMPh7MZF0SqF9E8dXLozSMHuTiTbKD2ni9bKLdOLBOivulqui Hb8A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:06:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: archive.org has resurrected the old IUMA recordings From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428af2c6e36204cd3d3dfa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:07:01 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04428af2c6e36204cd3d3dfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Listening to "Animals Live and Grow" now. Very elegant music and nicely played. I gotta say Matt, you had a lot of feeling and restraint for a 23 year old. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Heh... those were the days. I still wax nostalgic about the online > community that was mp3.com. (Lots of people had stuff up, and the site > let you build "radio stations" by linking tracks from different > artists into a big m3u file. It was a great way to find out about > different indie artists. I'd like to see Bandcamp have some ideas like > that! > > IUMA was kind of the "indie-er" mp3.com. Except their servers couldn't > handle the traffic they were getting. Most attempts to upload or > download any files resulted in timeouts. And they didn't have the same > community building aspects. > > But my first ever CD-R release, "5 Spots" is up there - released in > 1998 at the tender age of 23.... and recorded mostly on bass guitar. > http://archive.org/details/iuma-matt_davignon (It's the first 15 > tracks.) > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Art Simon wrote: > > Thanks for listening Per, I'm glad you liked it! > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> Cool - it's like an online museum, but fully active! :-) In the > >> nineties I wrote books in Sweden about the booming online "Internet > >> Music" and IUMA was where it started. One of my books was commissioned > >> by the Swedish Arts and Culture Counsel as a recourse for educating > >> politicians. Nice to see parts of the legendary archive back online, > >> but I guess it is not complete, as it actually is labeled "Collection" > >> here. > >> > >> Listening to your old stuff. Nice music! Yes, the Garbage Truck piece > >> is exciting. Enjoying stereo field you captured in most of the field > >> recordings. > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > >> www.perboysen.com > >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Art Simon wrote: > >> > I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all > >> > those > >> > old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine: > >> > http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon > >> > Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I think I'm > >> > most > >> > proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder from my trip to > >> > Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle Sounds" from > >> > Taman > >> > Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli" performance. I > >> > also > >> > really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to my > >> > apartment > >> > at 5 am one morning in San Francisco. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Art Simon > >> > simart@gmail.com > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Art Simon > > simart@gmail.com > > > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com --f46d04428af2c6e36204cd3d3dfa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Listening to "Animals Live and Grow" now. Very elegant music and = nicely played. I gotta say Matt, you had a lot of feeling and restraint for= a 23 year old.=A0

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 a= t 3:52 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote= :
Heh... those were the days. I still wax nost= algic about the online
community that was mp3.com= . (Lots of people had stuff up, and the site
let you build "radio stations" by linking tracks from different artists into a big m3u file. It was a great way to find out about
different indie artists. I'd like to see Bandcamp have some ideas like<= br> that!

IUMA was kind of the "indie-er" mp3.com. Except their servers couldn't
handle the traffic they were getting. Most attempts to upload or
download any files resulted in timeouts. And they didn't have the same<= br> community building aspects.

But my first ever CD-R release, "5 Spots" is up there - released = in
1998 at the tender age of 23.... and recorded mostly on bass guitar.
http://archive.org/details/iuma-matt_davignon (It's the first 15 tracks.)


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for listening Per, I'm glad you liked it!
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cool - it's like an online museum, but fully active! :-) =A0In= the
>> nineties I wrote books in Sweden about the booming online "In= ternet
>> Music" and IUMA was where it started. One of my books was com= missioned
>> by the Swedish Arts and Culture Counsel as a recourse for educatin= g
>> politicians. Nice to see parts of the legendary archive back onlin= e,
>> but I guess it is not complete, as it actually is labeled "Co= llection"
>> here.
>>
>> Listening to your old stuff. Nice music! Yes, the Garbage Truck pi= ece
>> is exciting. Enjoying stereo field you captured in most of the fie= ld
>> recordings.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboys= en.com
>> htt= p://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all
>> > those
>> > old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine:
>> > http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon
>> > Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I t= hink I'm
>> > most
>> > proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder fr= om my trip to
>> > Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle S= ounds" from
>> > Taman
>> > Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli&q= uot; performance. I
>> > also
>> > really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to= my
>> > apartment
>> > at 5 am one morning in San Francisco.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Art Simon
>> > simart@gmail.com
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
>




-- Art Simon
simart= @gmail.com

--f46d04428af2c6e36204cd3d3dfa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 02:53:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C7EB18347C; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=yE4czVPI2guknHgjZfeRcO6Tx+Cd+CJLqqN24eYAO8U=; b=DjF4+O6OSN93jN+E2Cm00Yo+qDRUTKIUwF7Al9K35SuPfxyBCPzl58pfA5L48C/EWm A7NhpCT6zbUDbW/kbOUFO4OH5R/UUVJT9486m/t5S6ziJMa/GzCTsCWIcOnf6P99KjkI s8xFkTGnH44Aousg3LzJrpIjjQ8zyYh/repNctqddet3ZMIEl/EB4vSe4cYHbztsuJsV wpHA5+BP8h5fNYchrH5kNiCrlyA3E46UyXo87p1KRHyiO3VyV2nxeihLEGdY1LmO+c6o 3UfoK/FbJgq4kq7hC66eQcvQ7BOM6L6TCm2TG7NeM04cIAqfYqu8IMkFF89dlzZGIUc0 NuPw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:53:12 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sahWASP9sxJlM8-7Wf88YtUDCfU Message-ID: Subject: Re: archive.org has resurrected the old IUMA recordings To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3434964067de04cd3de4c4 Resent-Message-ID: <8KqqNB.A.xBF.vE0jQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:53:35 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3434964067de04cd3de4c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Indeed, I remember IUMA well, and the Archive did resurrect a few of my tracks from that era that I've probably lost: http://archive.org/details/iuma-ljova and a theatre score that was never to be: http://archive.org/details/iuma-desolate_metropolis_soundtrack__by_ljova Those days, it felt like IUMA was very indie, because MP3.com got bought by Vivendi. IUMA was the Vimeo to today's Youtube.. but it had no business model.. ah, those were the days! -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Heh... those were the days. I still wax nostalgic about the online > community that was mp3.com. (Lots of people had stuff up, and the site > let you build "radio stations" by linking tracks from different > artists into a big m3u file. It was a great way to find out about > different indie artists. I'd like to see Bandcamp have some ideas like > that! > > IUMA was kind of the "indie-er" mp3.com. Except their servers couldn't > handle the traffic they were getting. Most attempts to upload or > download any files resulted in timeouts. And they didn't have the same > community building aspects. > > But my first ever CD-R release, "5 Spots" is up there - released in > 1998 at the tender age of 23.... and recorded mostly on bass guitar. > http://archive.org/details/iuma-matt_davignon (It's the first 15 > tracks.) > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Art Simon wrote: > > Thanks for listening Per, I'm glad you liked it! > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> Cool - it's like an online museum, but fully active! :-) In the > >> nineties I wrote books in Sweden about the booming online "Internet > >> Music" and IUMA was where it started. One of my books was commissioned > >> by the Swedish Arts and Culture Counsel as a recourse for educating > >> politicians. Nice to see parts of the legendary archive back online, > >> but I guess it is not complete, as it actually is labeled "Collection" > >> here. > >> > >> Listening to your old stuff. Nice music! Yes, the Garbage Truck piece > >> is exciting. Enjoying stereo field you captured in most of the field > >> recordings. > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > >> www.perboysen.com > >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Art Simon wrote: > >> > I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all > >> > those > >> > old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine: > >> > http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon > >> > Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I think I'm > >> > most > >> > proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder from my trip to > >> > Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle Sounds" from > >> > Taman > >> > Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli" performance. I > >> > also > >> > really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to my > >> > apartment > >> > at 5 am one morning in San Francisco. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Art Simon > >> > simart@gmail.com > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Art Simon > > simart@gmail.com > > > > --047d7b3434964067de04cd3de4c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed, I remember IUMA well, and the Archive did resurrect a few of my tra= cks from that era that I've probably lost: and a theatre score that was never to be:

Those days, it felt like IUMA was very indie, because MP3.co= m got bought by Vivendi. =A0IUMA was the Vimeo to today's Youtube.. but= it had no business model..

ah, those were the day= s!


--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin

= Web: http://Ljova.comListen: http://ww= w.Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.c= om/videos
IMDb: h= ttp://imdb.me/ljova
Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom


On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Matt Da= vignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh... those were the days. I still wax nostalgic about the online
community that was mp3.com= . (Lots of people had stuff up, and the site
let you build "radio stations" by linking tracks from different artists into a big m3u file. It was a great way to find out about
different indie artists. I'd like to see Bandcamp have some ideas like<= br> that!

IUMA was kind of the "indie-er" mp3.com. Except their servers couldn't
handle the traffic they were getting. Most attempts to upload or
download any files resulted in timeouts. And they didn't have the same<= br> community building aspects.

But my first ever CD-R release, "5 Spots" is up there - released = in
1998 at the tender age of 23.... and recorded mostly on bass guitar.
http://archive.org/details/iuma-matt_davignon (It's the first 15 tracks.)


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for listening Per, I'm glad you liked it!
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cool - it's like an online museum, but fully active! :-) =A0In= the
>> nineties I wrote books in Sweden about the booming online "In= ternet
>> Music" and IUMA was where it started. One of my books was com= missioned
>> by the Swedish Arts and Culture Counsel as a recourse for educatin= g
>> politicians. Nice to see parts of the legendary archive back onlin= e,
>> but I guess it is not complete, as it actually is labeled "Co= llection"
>> here.
>>
>> Listening to your old stuff. Nice music! Yes, the Garbage Truck pi= ece
>> is exciting. Enjoying stereo field you captured in most of the fie= ld
>> recordings.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboys= en.com
>> htt= p://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I found this out on the Audiomulch list, archive.org has put up all
>> > those
>> > old mp3s from IUMA. I was pleased to see mine:
>> > http://archive.org/details/iuma-art_simon
>> > Back in the day, I put a few audio recordings up on IUMA. I t= hink I'm
>> > most
>> > proud of the ones I'd made on my old minidisc recorder fr= om my trip to
>> > Malaysia. If you are interested, I thought the "Jungle S= ounds" from
>> > Taman
>> > Negara came out pretty well as well as the "Orang Asli&q= uot; performance. I
>> > also
>> > really liked the recording of the garbage truck driving up to= my
>> > apartment
>> > at 5 am one morning in San Francisco.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Art Simon
>> > simart@gmail.com
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
>


--047d7b3434964067de04cd3de4c4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 03:06:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F97618347F; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pn1cUaIDnOms7yIq4+F8OLrYloWAEZK6TZ0qKeudqb4=; b=VrlpRZd8U0+HdJ8J3YaE/oQ0+AfhC4Zo5dGfR9EKPYc9kQRl9+WlCfZSKYUSdFde7p Zpm31ufAcL5M22rbgcKqm62EB2h+0E+HSYTkkU55G12jB2ZXJIRhKE9WQRMRnA5Drz8f NCKpF0sOammFQQO8H8anQgpBDCBwhD0t/KtMjy62DYOIDNNa88WDI3RJo6wt8OB0YAcn cMJQ8ExgUPLhKlToO+Wes4B+TwbCtvRaJlJ6QNn1MBTI1DWCB9ATBNI+5KYiAdLCNLLt NVCtXJ+scIR9cn5PTdOFWYdTPeQ3MSQbOFmAVgONSpesQce+lA0O6RItoIlDlocuiU4t B3ZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:06:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7b42b605c104cd3e13dd Resent-Message-ID: <24r5WD.A.uTF.KR0jQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:06:50 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c7b42b605c104cd3e13dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/ --f46d043c7b42b605c104cd3e13dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/

--f46d043c7b42b605c104cd3e13dd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 10:22:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64D5C183476; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bgmoTBt5oY38j7agwRKqZwzzgfBvWGwPBp6F/kPa6I8=; b=k21RX/bvrU+PShG0Gl8+Fe+1k9FfPbM/EuYXG2VA2V25mASz33kR14OQ01fPgVufZB /hvylXysm9yFU7EAQJ2cy2sQ/3+1FKXrVlHdax9JM8WNwwfaGpCSkNgprVukWED2SDH/ ZjF8mGTGp1hMuBK7mNlnykePzrVpLfxzJpWXWd0HNb//nEDK4hOFr7Ydz5AQqZsDGiB+ dKGNlR2ACsfiXFkTzREX8O80LJCrJYNBV3/25qUvVqKtAE36YFrqZPhAddqKjO1Ukjgh m1+zZfO3f8xRp0e4xchiPu8KwOAWoIfigPeXr5Xf12+Ti5sSVEXfIDbkSgeazHaLjbHa wuNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:22:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: New live looping piece From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7ddd39c68a04cd442bc8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:22:55 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7ddd39c68a04cd442bc8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwEUb4C33rU New piece that I just recorded 2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. Hope you guys enjoy :) -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art www.soundcloud.com/k3z --0016e6db7ddd39c68a04cd442bc8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DcwEUb4C33rU

New piece that I just recorded=A0 2 = days ago. It's improvised as usual. Hope you guys enjoy :)

--
http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238

http://w= ww.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27

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--0016e6db7ddd39c68a04cd442bc8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 12:19:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54709183477; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:19:13 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20121030121913.172830@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Ableton Push To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18hsed7VLUhQfNqXNgjz5eezGpd2q6Y9H8cR659yW i02pJY069HzfXVdHMnyhn9qDYYg9BZKA4g4Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: lqD9cOcieSEqNsh4kHUheg9+IGRvbwDq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks has anyone taken a look at the new product "Ableton Push"? https://www.ableton.com/en/push/ Basically, not much different to APC 40 etc. The only thing that got me REALLY excited was the "DELETE" button. I wonder if this could be used to really delete clips directly? Do you think Live 9 supports that? So far, this feature has been really missing in Live API. Would be great.... best regards Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 12:33:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 389D7183477; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:33:27 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton Push Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20121030121913.172830@gmx.net> References: <20121030121913.172830@gmx.net> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01vzt3sC+er+K9br0ZADSf3B7+aeYT7S9o6iIAat8Y9TJp2BO4seg=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Can the APC40 do all the melodic stuff that the Push can? That's what really amazed me - it doesn't just do drum programming and clip triggering, you can play it like a piano keyboard with the added bonus that melodic patterns are always the same in any key. p.s. getting excited over a delete button, that's the geekiest thing I've ever heard - though I understand! ;) Philip. --On 30 October 2012 13:19 +0100 Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > has anyone taken a look at the new product "Ableton Push"? > https://www.ableton.com/en/push/ > Basically, not much different to APC 40 etc. > The only thing that got me REALLY excited was the "DELETE" button. I > wonder if this could be used to really delete clips directly? Do you > think Live 9 supports that? So far, this feature has been really missing > in Live API. Would be great.... > > best regards > Buzap > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 12:36:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6720518347C; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aAKyuR/jcEN19Nq6TVm9nuUgbeHb6Tw5IYaAanlvBzk=; b=0fJ6gFR5umUaNVi3Fjnlb/DXoEsaGBKKxeG6fu5Ucrchy+QCsQ+ez2DZnaUshJ+/TD PGObq1eU2jCVZq6BV6BLdliD74epFPXuQlJfFcRZV9ugZCYno39EdCPkNz9y0rfcVjGu CeU09PCvcV45cIluEtGyQvYISewcy7dxWOvqNuzaASQew5k5o6Rr9hmGQANTQ807o+zG 59h80TEVenRLx0SeXojvvTddsKLLwyv7041vgpZrHfu5io/fc9ou104owvIzql7s0FKu o558lVzz6PXeS0bxw9bp6v0L3RjIUMMawQkOdSy5mouqTU2N0NAE/xI2mk7WjBdnCBXs Smrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121030121913.172830@gmx.net> References: <20121030121913.172830@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:36:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton Push From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_liioB.A.ktB.an8jQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:36:42 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > has anyone taken a look at the new product "Ableton Push"? > https://www.ableton.com/en/push/ > Basically, not much different to APC 40 etc. > The only thing that got me REALLY excited was the "DELETE" button. I wonder if this could be used to really delete clips directly? Do you think Live 9 supports that? So far, this feature has been really missing in Live API. Would be great.... > > best regards > Buzap > Yes. But there is not much information out yet. I have subscribed to a thread at the Live forum where we are discussing whether Push is based on the open MIDI protocol or some propriety format. A nice thing with Push is that the pads are both touch sensitive for aftertouch and velocity sensitive for tapping attacks. And I like the flat grid design. I my mind I'm comparing Push with the Eigenharp. Price-wise Push wins, but as I said there is no info out on how it actually works. If it can only be used with Live it wouldn't be of interest for me. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 14:49:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD852183479; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:48:59 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20121030144859.76170@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20121030121913.172830@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Ableton Push To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+zMrYptp6zfr4VQsoAUkMK//yT3Ucn90aFdcjp4m pS1u/2I9flH+M5hBRwNxDqdPGEArltJwJKsQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: jI39cKV8eSEqUch4kHUhKoR+IGRvb8AK Resent-Message-ID: <79gaD.A.UMD.fj-jQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:49:03 +0000 (UTC) > Yes. But there is not much information out yet. That would be really interesting to know... Let's hope for full-fledged API implementation and midi CC commands... It might sound geeky, but having a "delete clip" command in Ableton is one of the main differences between a DJ (trigger perfectly arranged clips/scenes) and Live Looping Artist (record loop, screw up, big time, oops... delete, DELETE...! ). best regards Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 16:41:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDDDD183465; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=GGkKMyimKqZtVsThDyKlJVTGqSRI/5OmzxmTFMwlwNg=; b=ODnOjZK3McFWOmzxXYx8owsnFD75237o56MgNy0PpsbqRncQZBNpUW3SYsPMkcXC7n XA9d874Cu7w7icj5FsDQ1Kzg+y127yVJXg2Pnmo6CYeezEq1CPhq0V9eflQeymNdBy9X 8Jb1R1ZIRbUihkEJxLQNg3/zW8cRF2cP7Soh7G2Eq4/TB/UUyFwAo9tNt7V3hYeCIqjT Z0BYIyHb4dEuVhhoJG/nnXQQ9apODnBVYgMzLAJz3cyWEuNBSuH7U4S53262y2Mw1tcc T2EmW979sEv44TiTkiRdjQeG95wD0Csa4So5Pac0BIxaeSRWs2QbqH2s286g8EyPL715 QgDQ== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4FFE992E-9E1F-4F4C-B7CA-78D822877999" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Ableton Push From: Todd Matthews X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <20121030144859.76170@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:41:40 -0400 Message-Id: References: <20121030121913.172830@gmx.net> <20121030144859.76170@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:41:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_4FFE992E-9E1F-4F4C-B7CA-78D822877999 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Buzap, Have you tried emulating your foot controller as a mackie control? You = can easily assign a footswitch to undo this way. ----------------------------------------------- Todd Matthews http://www.facebook.com/loopbass http://twitter.com/toddmbass http://toddbass.com On Oct 30, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> Yes. But there is not much information out yet. > That would be really interesting to know... Let's hope for = full-fledged API implementation and midi CC commands... >=20 > It might sound geeky, but having a "delete clip" command in Ableton is = one of the main differences between a DJ (trigger perfectly arranged = clips/scenes) and Live Looping Artist (record loop, screw up, big time, = oops... delete, DELETE...! ). >=20 > best regards > Buzap >=20 --Apple-Mail=_4FFE992E-9E1F-4F4C-B7CA-78D822877999 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hey = Buzap,

Have you tried emulating your foot controller = as a mackie control? You can easily assign a footswitch to undo this = way.


http://www.facebook.com/loopbass=



On Oct 30, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

Yes. But there is not much information out = yet.
That would be really interesting to know... Let's = hope for full-fledged API implementation and midi CC = commands...

It might sound geeky, but having a "delete clip" = command in Ableton is one of the main differences between a DJ (trigger = perfectly arranged clips/scenes) and Live Looping Artist (record loop, = screw up, big time, oops... delete, DELETE...! ).

best = regards
Buzap


= --Apple-Mail=_4FFE992E-9E1F-4F4C-B7CA-78D822877999-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 17:21:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9551183479; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=B/IAKVh6dJcPyQ4MxX25Jkh0yTzVTW/q1Dpr3L3kGFU=; b=AlwYUkFStSqbaBu/dG25HQtY1rwb+AdhAvDRJAQ60f4xI6FUlVYP4Xk29SV0vgflck Zd/+vHnFUsxh5a2h/J+ebPdJi7r8bU4AEoHjOFk/i8Zcj3BYSNNw2Z+E07weRQsC0NLz ci5qT/ywZZ+21VJz2WnMHLfXLpu1Pk8ba2rKw9N63WZ7JuX08wzY1j7Uxs/Rs94+kxq8 WdUwQl/sryvy2iyvvJooDy2pDRjGiz2U+we/inGbYTffauL3ssK4NCe5sBVE5aWbXE5L HCkIS/Fl5XJgYJYEpB0oHu/jJp62ApPVN81LSQXt9VQjrpAW7jt2/Rdm4E1OAQEdi147 PQaw== From: "teddyjam.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--351655439 Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:21:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQniUfspoCXQJYZamjpTPJhjmpxAhTjyRnXS2TjJUgZ9Ud56azU2EjNL8cbhlkkdAgsqfslY Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:21:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--351655439 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of = people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, = etc... miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected = so far. Teddy http://teddyjam.com On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite looping = artists lives out there to! :/ >=20 --Apple-Mail-2--351655439 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing = wrote:

Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my = favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/


= --Apple-Mail-2--351655439-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 17:48:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94050183474; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 774857.90592.bm@omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1351619316; bh=D3k/uRdwfCLEOMjhzfb/hGzV/n4g7S0SXMZobcyclYc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tzu4wSQSltDhT9cYY7av9nfX5h7ySbgOshlfRlwBkKLk5AqPiDt7e56cZmZhl8tFipMw/t/TvL2z4Lj4mb4BZNdz33cwyxcXsvPpsEEdSv52+pLtwsClAcAclOIvAaC5BjNM0oOpRex+ParCbZQ0MNE/IPrDFMuzv1sujEq8Efg= X-YMail-OSG: tmh.5W4VM1nwXFjGBCDCpS7Noffw8tH.jliNRkz1qepMvCi Rvlcx0D9nADLHIr05fyl_uqk1owWCFxZvt4wXg9LwiXUGE3VQ86MqCVme.hD GHkdPSKDWQPRDPaHfQ4YfVWyJWdk5i4m70tmhHJYmmv5RaSVV4pXUujvpAfx zy9NZIOt8qXcGjHDxiT_gUyAUDUBs5w4o0ZJVdRBT4A.6zzMG24bbUDbF.J0 0fInWZjiHwIrdaYAhPfjiQjR.XeHSFNswj8QtvjeDOy_XsaviJaxgWZpz6Hu n6d_j2ueIMLIQIk0ag5gE5CI8s0XKJqEeBC6TKAwkV7nKyyIvgMINBRA2gEH DqlCYECnr_j9h8lg3YRiqRWFcUuak1da7XXt6dlpuSWGkc2XgFrhJ8e.1Eb4 uiLFBcwEmaTzEzg1g4TAwYjqaFKDEf.lr4aUVjVgA.N83EfJj6BXCEHeVgtf YdamcpENLArON61d9QhXWPBv7OyupkMNZN8bBAPFwrppaU5sBUe7RA6qg2cu jzmIkBA6tXzg2B8JATltdZqV8EuCbKrBcrLIkDFq9fNcVivF0qE_uxjJMXm2 U2knOfbY67e4znwpzgCHa9m3brCwJ.6_26PYav9lLOSQGogJYXKydydKMUCa TMHWlFTH42QSuFuyzLTT0QyzVZr8WYSNErXReEfUqG.N1yCIe2BO367wbl0E YVO_YLrU.PsdRBBf01zR.REMz5mU8HM_MbyuFtqKM3QDp2.CtgPsi X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,R2xhZCB5b3VyIGNpdHkgd2FzIHNwYXJlZCB0aGUgd29yc3QuIExhc3QgbmlnaHQsIGhlcmUgaW4gQm9zdG9uLCB0aGUgY29wcyBhc2tlZCBhbGwgb24gbXkgc3RyZWV0IHRvIHN0YXkgaW5kb29ycyBvciByaXNrIGdldHRpbmcgZnJpZWQgYnkgdGhlIGhpZ2gtdGVuc2lvbiB3aXJlcywgd2hpY2ggd2VyZSBhbGwgdGhhdCB3YXMga2VlcGluZyB0aGUgc3RyZWV0J3MgYmlnZ2VzdCB0cmVlIGZyb20gZmFsbGluZyBvdmVyIGFuZCB3b3VsZCBibG93IHNvb24uIEEgZmV3IG1pbnV0ZXMgbGF0ZXIgdGhleSBrbm9ja2UBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1351619316.80185.YahooMailClassic@web84509.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:48:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-215069597-785648064-1351619316=:80185" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:48:37 +0000 (UTC) ---215069597-785648064-1351619316=:80185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Glad your city was spared the worst. Last night, here in Boston, the cops asked all on my street to stay indoors or risk getting fried by the high-tension wires, which were all that was keeping the street's biggest tree from falling over and would blow soon. A few minutes later they knocked and said we all had to leave immediately for fear the street's gas main was gonna blow. Typing this from work, because they have electricity (and because I need money!) Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Tue, 10/30/12, teddyjam.com wrote: From: teddyjam.com Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 1:21 PM Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc...miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected so far. Teddyhttp://teddyjam.com On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/ ---215069597-785648064-1351619316=:80185 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Glad your city was spared the worst. Last night, here in Boston, the cops asked all on my street to stay indoors or risk getting fried by the high-tension wires, which were all that was keeping the street's biggest tree from falling over and would blow soon. A few minutes later they knocked and said we all had to leave immediately for fear the street's gas main was gonna blow. Typing this from work, because they have electricity (and because I need money!)

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, teddyjam.com <teddy@teddyjam.com> wrote:

From: teddyjam.com <teddy@teddyjam.com>
Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 1:21 PM

Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc...
miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected so far.

On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:

Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/


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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <1351619316.80185.YahooMailClassic@web84509.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1662753009-276578504-1351622616=:70333" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:43:37 +0000 (UTC) --1662753009-276578504-1351622616=:70333 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gas main??!! Was there an earthquake? Having spent a couple decades in the businees, I've never heard of an above ground breeze, no matter its intensity, brakig underground pipes.Then there's also the question of between 4% and 14% which is the only mixture that will combust, (with a spark of course). Highly interesting. Rig ________________________________ From: Tim Mungenast To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. Glad your city was spared the worst. Last night, here in Boston, the cops asked all on my street to stay indoors or risk getting fried by the high-tension wires, which were all that was keeping the street's biggest tree from falling over and would blow soon. A few minutes later they knocked and said we all had to leave immediately for fear the street's gas main was gonna blow. Typing this from work, because they have electricity (and because I need money!) Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Tue, 10/30/12, teddyjam.com wrote: >From: teddyjam.com >Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 1:21 PM > > >Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc... >miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected so far. > > >Teddy >http://teddyjam.com >On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/ --1662753009-276578504-1351622616=:70333 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Gas main??!! Was there an earthquake? Having spent a couple decades in the businees, I've never heard of an above ground breeze, no matter its intensity, brakig underground pipes.Then there's also the question of between 4% and 14% which is the only mixture that will combust, (with a spark of course). Highly interesting.
Rig

From: Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@verizon.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast.
Glad your city was spared the worst. Last night, here in Boston, the cops asked all on my street to stay indoors or risk getting fried by the high-tension wires, which were all that was keeping the street's biggest tree from falling over and would blow soon. A few minutes later they knocked and said we all had to leave immediately for fear the street's gas main was gonna blow. Typing this from work, because they have electricity (and because I need money!)

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, teddyjam.com <teddy@teddyjam.com> wrote:

From: teddyjam.com <teddy@teddyjam.com>
Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 1:21 PM

Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc...
miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected so far.

Teddy
http://teddyjam.com
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:
Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/
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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , bill bigrig In-Reply-To: <1351622616.70333.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1282451020-1837030434-1351625042=:70016" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:24:04 +0000 (UTC) ---1282451020-1837030434-1351625042=:70016 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (I forgot to hit "reply all") I hear you, Bill. Seemed weird to me as well... the cops/firefghters/etc=0A= thought the root system of the knocked-over tree may have compromised =0At= he gas main, but from my admittedly layman-esque viewoint I think it =0Awas= much ado about nada. In the words of Bob Crumb's character Flakey =0AFoont= , "bitch grip mumble, mumble bitch=A0 gripe, piss moan"=20 Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Tue, 10/30/12, bill bigrig wrote: From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out t= o the east coast. To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 2:43 PM Gas main??!! Was there an earthquake? Having spent a couple decades in the = businees, I've never heard of an above ground breeze, no matter its intensi= ty, brakig underground pipes.Then there's also the question of between 4% a= nd 14% which is the only mixture that will combust, (with a spark of course= ). Highly interesting.=0ARig=0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: Tim Mungenast To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out t= o the east coast. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0AGlad your city was spared the worst. Last night, here in Bo= ston, the cops asked all on my street to stay indoors or risk getting fried= by the high-tension wires, which were all that was keeping the street's bi= ggest tree from falling over and would blow soon. A few minutes later they = knocked and said we all had to leave immediately for fear the street's gas = main was gonna blow. Typing this from work, because they have electricity (= and because I need money!) Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Tue, 10/30/12, teddyjam.com wrote: =0A From: teddyjam.com Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out t= o the east coast. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 1:21 PM =0A=0AThanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of = people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc= ...=0Amiraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expec= ted so far.=0A=0A=0A=0A =0ATeddy=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttp://teddyjam.com =0A=0AOn Oct 29, 2012, at 11:= 06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: =0A=0AHopefully this storm dies down really s= oon. One of my favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/ ---1282451020-1837030434-1351625042=:70016 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(I forgot to hit "reply all")
I hear you, = Bill. Seemed weird to me as well... the cops/firefghters/etc=0A thought the= root system of the knocked-over tree may have compromised =0Athe gas main,= but from my admittedly layman-esque viewoint I think it =0Awas much ado ab= out nada. In the words of Bob Crumb's character Flakey =0AFoont, "bitch gri= p mumble, mumble bitch  gripe, piss moan"


Tim Mungenast=
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast<= /span>
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com= /timmungenast

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, bill bigrig <bil= lbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: P= ut your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coa= st.
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 2:43 PM

Gas main??!! Was there an = earthquake? Having spent a couple decades in the businees, I've never heard= of an above ground breeze, no matter its intensity, brakig underground pip= es.Then there's also the question of between 4% and 14% which is the only m= ixture that will combust, (with a spark of course). Highly interesting.
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From: Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@veri= zon.net>
To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent= : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever= else you can offer out to the east coast.
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Glad your city was spared the worst. La= st night, here in Boston, the cops asked all on my street to stay indoors o= r risk getting fried by the high-tension wires, which were all that was kee= ping the street's biggest tree from falling over and would blow soon. A few= minutes later they knocked and said we all had to leave immediately for fe= ar the street's gas main was gonna blow. Typing this from work, because the= y have electricity (and because I need money!)

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmun= genast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.= com/timmungenast

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, teddyjam.com &l= t;teddy@teddyjam.com> wrote:
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= From: teddyjam.com <teddy@teddyjam.com>
Subject: Re: Put your pray= ers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast.
To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 1:21= PM

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Thanks... all ok here in Bro= oklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees do= wn, subways shut down, business lost, etc...=0A
miraculously we didn't = lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected so far.
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=0AOn Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:
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Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of = my favorite looping artists lives out there to! :/
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---1282451020-1837030434-1351625042=:70016-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 19:29:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9404918347B; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3b7777a2-c10d-443a-a09f-2445128b1c84_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: New live looping piece Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:29:10 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2012 19:29:11.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6978A70:01CDB6D4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:29:12 +0000 (UTC) --_3b7777a2-c10d-443a-a09f-2445128b1c84_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice work bro. super chill! Date: Tue=2C 30 Oct 2012 03:22:53 -0700 Subject: New live looping piece From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcwEUb4C33rU=20 New piece that I just recorded 2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. Hope = you guys enjoy :) --=20 http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art www.soundcloud.com/k3z = --_3b7777a2-c10d-443a-a09f-2445128b1c84_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
nice work bro. super chill!

Date: Tue=2C 30 Oct 2012 03:22:53 -0700
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To: Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcwEUb4C33rU

New piece that I just recorded =3B 2 days ago. It's improvise= d as usual. Hope you guys enjoy :)

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= --_3b7777a2-c10d-443a-a09f-2445128b1c84_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 19:45:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8181818347E; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 368117.33598.bm@smtp107.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: b1EsesMVM1nMD0AX9RiLeT2UNg_pLEzpnqSqXF1SgWi0rJB tzojjuIAh38ONeL2uzFCdSl0MUFZTIsB9fI8CHVKqoZpbzKUNem1fBql8Yqe xNblQEhp3w0D_lZLxIF2CfbX9u0OJsgSSJ6iTJ9qe07kZV0rYK7hGyR8vbEW KRAc.n4mp7GMbm6gZwcWHOddxnBlAmUY_vf3FPeHqQfIiVCkBKA.2zKS9ome dVVo8mwbCEx.oErh63USclXKkWavDk1QJB22l5OESMY1tUn6tEBBSKDRqryr 1xKIImk4iuw6IJTHmyixUhgM9J.7pA0IoRULjXLvPLiYaMY2lZ8OcTn3lMbx Ziv_E5tJB6Uycyy5xooOO42oyOAabycDurjhmU28anJNuNyk58kdur0_OB5V MA0bErw0qKTeHCZEyJZLUezAtIJXqpWI4MWVPz1OqsYUL2yN7v8cBuKT1J.P x7FApO0blX.p8gm0qcrPaM.9_6R9a70nTmJOcyqg6ilDzVRyHFs3N3XFLRDZ OYHgAx0WGb5QZZYNBlkFqTdryNS.sQw348lE5jdDm5_Vew1ZrUQg05zLbXA. cNO3h3qflWhj55XABnByMlUozrHUTiFqCqc390eZ2JhndH5KtlFtVeKrFY2l BFqFDdICcLRJK1PXLAnjpPV7OJrHCH3rc9sckUOynsjGc72IgJr262d_Z X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. References: <1351625042.70016.YahooMailClassic@web84516.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-16--343002907 In-Reply-To: <1351625042.70016.YahooMailClassic@web84516.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <9D0D525C-D7F6-491C-B964-24B0A75C4A2B@carlsonarts.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:45:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:45:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-16--343002907 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It was probably just a convenient way to convince everyone to leave the = area. Just a bunch of hot air. Michael 3x09 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote: > (I forgot to hit "reply all") > I hear you, Bill. Seemed weird to me as well... the = cops/firefghters/etc thought the root system of the knocked-over tree = may have compromised the gas main, but from my admittedly layman-esque = viewoint I think it was much ado about nada. In the words of Bob Crumb's = character Flakey Foont, "bitch grip mumble, mumble bitch gripe, piss = moan"=20 >=20 >=20 > Tim Mungenast > Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast > Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast >=20 > --- On Tue, 10/30/12, bill bigrig wrote: >=20 > From: bill bigrig > Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer = out to the east coast. > To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" = > Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 2:43 PM >=20 > Gas main??!! Was there an earthquake? Having spent a couple decades in = the businees, I've never heard of an above ground breeze, no matter its = intensity, brakig underground pipes.Then there's also the question of = between 4% and 14% which is the only mixture that will combust, (with a = spark of course). Highly interesting. > Rig >=20 > From: Tim Mungenast > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:48 AM > Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer = out to the east coast. > Glad your city was spared the worst. Last night, here in Boston, the = cops asked all on my street to stay indoors or risk getting fried by the = high-tension wires, which were all that was keeping the street's biggest = tree from falling over and would blow soon. A few minutes later they = knocked and said we all had to leave immediately for fear the street's = gas main was gonna blow. Typing this from work, because they have = electricity (and because I need money!) >=20 > Tim Mungenast > Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast > Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast >=20 > --- On Tue, 10/30/12, teddyjam.com wrote: >=20 > From: teddyjam.com > Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer = out to the east coast. > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 1:21 PM >=20 > Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of = people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, = etc... > miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than = expected so far. >=20 > Teddy > http://teddyjam.com > On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >> Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite = looping artists lives out there to! :/ --Apple-Mail-16--343002907 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii It = was probably just a convenient way to convince everyone to leave the = area.  Just a bunch of hot = air.

Michael
3x09

On = Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote:

(I forgot to hit "reply = all")
I hear you, Bill. Seemed weird to me as well... the = cops/firefghters/etc thought the root system of the knocked-over tree may have compromised=20= the gas main, but from my admittedly layman-esque viewoint I think it=20 was much ado about nada. In the words of Bob Crumb's character Flakey=20 Foont, "bitch grip mumble, mumble bitch  gripe, piss moan" =


Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmu= ngenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/tim= mungenast

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, bill bigrig = <billbigrig@yahoo.com> = wrote:

From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
Subje= ct: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to = the east coast.
To: "Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 2:43 = PM

Gas main??!! Was there an earthquake? Having spent a couple = decades in the businees, I've never heard of an above ground breeze, no = matter its intensity, brakig underground pipes.Then there's also the = question of between 4% and 14% which is the only mixture that will = combust, (with a spark of course). Highly interesting.
Rig

From: Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@verizon.net>
<= b>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Put your prayers, = hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east = coast.
=20
Glad your city was spared the worst. Last night, here = in Boston, the cops asked all on my street to stay indoors or risk = getting fried by the high-tension wires, which were all that was keeping = the street's biggest tree from falling over and would blow soon. A few = minutes later they knocked and said we all had to leave immediately for = fear the street's gas main was gonna blow. Typing this from work, = because they have electricity (and because I need money!)

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmu= ngenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/tim= mungenast

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, teddyjam.com = <teddy@teddyjam.com> = wrote:

From: teddyjam.com <teddy@teddyjam.com>
Subject: = Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the = east coast.
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 1:21 PM

Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding = of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business = lost, etc...
miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than = expected so far.
=20
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:
=20
Hopefully this storm dies down really soon. One of my favorite = looping artists lives out there to! = :/

= --Apple-Mail-16--343002907-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 19:50:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71EDD183481; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50902F72.8010508@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:50:10 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "teddyjam.com" CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050707080704060907070209" Resent-Message-ID: <5E63mC.A.LcH.59CkQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:50:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050707080704060907070209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote: > Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of > people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business > lost, etc... > miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than > expected so far. What a blessing. Glad you made it through. We've been praying for you out here on the Left Coast! Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan --------------050707080704060907070209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote:
Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc...
miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected so far.
What a blessing. Glad you made it through.

  We've been praying for you out here on the Left Coast!

Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan

--------------050707080704060907070209-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 19:58:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AF9C183477; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1351625042.70016.YahooMailClassic@web84516.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1351625042.70016.YahooMailClassic@web84516.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--342264561 Message-Id: <7D8E356F-E4B7-4E88-B18B-220386671294@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. (Flakey Foont) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:58:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:58:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--342264561 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote: > In the words of Bob Crumb's character Flakey Foont, "bitch grip > mumble, mumble bitch gripe, piss moan" > > Actually, wasn't that Mr Natural whenever he was first starting out > to wash the dishes in his kitchen? :-) (Sorry...couldn't resist!) > > Hang in thar, Tim! > > Cheers- > Rev.Fever > Portlandia > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult > > > Tim Mungenast > Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast > Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast > > - --Apple-Mail-1--342264561 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Tim Mungenast = wrote:

 In the words of Bob = Crumb's character Flakey Foont, "bitch grip mumble, mumble bitch  = gripe, piss moan"

Actually, wasn't that Mr Natural whenever = he was first starting out to wash the dishes in his kitchen? :-) =  (Sorry...couldn't resist!)

Hang in thar, = Tim!

Cheers-
Rev.Fever
Portlandia


Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

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I think yer right, Rev. It's been a few decad= es. And Big Thanks for the support, which I pass along to all East Coasters= who got F-K-D in this killer storm.

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
G= uitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Tue, 10/30/12, Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com> w= rote:

From: Revfever <revfever@ubergadge= t.com>
Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you ca= n offer out to the east coast. (Flakey Foont)
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 3:58 PM

=0A
On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Tim Mung= enast wrote:

 In the words of Bob Crumb's character Flakey F= oont, "bitch grip mumble, mumble bitch  gripe, piss moan"

= Actually, wasn't that Mr Natural whenever he was first starting out to wash= the dishes in his kitchen? :-)  (Sorry...couldn't resist!)

Han= g in thar, Tim!

Cheers-
Rev.Fever
Portlandia
<= a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.spiritone.com/%7Erv= fever">http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever


= Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader= : www.linkedin.com/in/= timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

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--750031334-514700848-1351627287=:9742-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 20:48:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9B8F18348B; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/Y+3cbyGBZbKGn6yzPMm8pby73CLg5nPLz1offEhu3k=; b=wpfPNGm1aeiyK64wO4VQCqwBfOzl7CTs2zh63jgkq44kW+m9DD8qtw8XLa8yzArqdr DcggvirSB6hnmNRSP5RvUqtvsMVus+Tt6AGT1n/TCRL0EHFCt6hgmR/FcsmSDR77gn0q MaOR0VDySUNoOG8v1lMxCGgU9Vk0IaRMtVTeryn/OOiBe3wXjbgTThP9vGdcRpjsOvfX ld0OrHbBI2GMfTZjYQd2/RNswFxEzFE6rFyaEIpy7N7GFJW44IX+H1Bt1bR/z4MyJs/T /Mz93JUTCfdk2J3lKIdjDqcHbvDFW2xuYhXB+Sg3+x16Fk8Y1c/oN8eHLr8mVrO5OOAW WtdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:48:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: RE: New live looping piece From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d62657aaa20204cd4ce9c5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:48:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d62657aaa20204cd4ce9c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks :) On Oct 30, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jack Cattedra" wrote: > nice work bro. super chill! > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:22:53 -0700 > Subject: New live looping piece > From: k3zz21@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwEUb4C33rU > > New piece that I just recorded 2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. Hope > you guys enjoy :) > > -- > http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 > > http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 > > https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art > > www.soundcloud.com/k3z > > --0016e6d62657aaa20204cd4ce9c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks :)

On Oct 30, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jack Cattedra&qu= ot; <the_beat_conducto= r@hotmail.com> wrote:
nice work bro. super chill!

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 20= 12 03:22:53 -0700
Subject: New live looping piece
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcwEUb4C33rU

New piece that= I just recorded=A0 2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. Hope you guys= enjoy :)

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http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238

http://w= ww.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27

https://twitt= er.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z

--0016e6d62657aaa20204cd4ce9c5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 20:56:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9AF818347C; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=VVAIyk6XoCFGAcpfjLZjH2HrwbII/YUaEjgKDrgxDmo=; b=N8ymayuo/fxP/o7iN4GtGIZ4Tnnav/sbjKU1BxQQ/30dK2EUAByLxYuzkfkwa7Cc2h JPzrPBKdFLKyMVlJmlajSdio9+v7vTa8kfQk+2VKtq3IW6WqmlhRSNn8jGqyWaV61FTM dGTsTe88hol/gDlTHczX9BSHuVS7f4iml5ER0y8cvP3bFeCrVYCbJXSI+i7ggR8Rbr3P fqxnOkRrekSpPMit44b6PHGC5oIYnidAjLQncTQHlcJtCG3lKIQVf8KPHHHwG7MljdsX B+wWdhoeQ+gu7ofvbbVo/fS8ky9At/gKSeAeFUnpuxWWoDDczA50O2gPxsEyisnjyERB eegw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50902F72.8010508@cruzio.com> References: <50902F72.8010508@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:55:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "teddyjam.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f5039aa67a40404cd4d03ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:56:00 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f5039aa67a40404cd4d03ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We fared well too. In Sunnyside, we had power all night long, still do, and actually indulged in feeling the wind for a bit by taking a walk late last night and just watching all the compelling activity . I'm afraid our folks in Red Hook didn't fare so well. Also had a friend in NYU Hospital ICU who was transferred to Cornell Hospital by 4 firemen carrying them down 9 flights of stairs. Everything's okay, patient is fine. Amazing, god bless our first responders. Best wishes to all and Rick and Bill, thanks for the good thoughts! Congrats on another fine festival . Cheers, Todd On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote: > > Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of > people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, > etc... > miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected > so far. > > What a blessing. Glad you made it through. > > We've been praying for you out here on the Left Coast! > > Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan > > --e89a8f5039aa67a40404cd4d03ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We fared well too. =A0In Sunnyside, we had power all night long, still do, = and actually indulged in feeling the wind for a bit by taking a walk late l= ast night and just watching all the compelling activity . I'm afraid ou= r folks in Red Hook didn't fare so well. =A0Also had a friend in NYU Ho= spital ICU who was transferred to Cornell Hospital by 4 firemen carrying th= em down 9 flights of stairs. Everything's okay, patient is fine. =A0Ama= zing, god bless our first responders. =A0Best wishes to all and Rick and Bi= ll, thanks for the good thoughts! Congrats on another fine festival .

Cheers,=A0

Todd

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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ric= k Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote:
Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for= a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc...
miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared bett= er than expected so far.
What a blessing. Glad you made it through.

=A0 We've been praying for you out here on the = Left Coast!

Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan




--e89a8f5039aa67a40404cd4d03ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 21:17:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC15118347E; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1351631841; bh=DXH6KIE6T01gPRARS1J1ooLnIRM/p5GJ9GuDJnA8ICo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=YJgIa98SO/KL6hs0EeA0dn0LCJz8jUo+uNoEd5fTJxdCMXvVJxtZbeFot7vHnT+v4nE9ilL/YDaMosaW7u12MMWOwthStCRpfw6OO41hqkd/Zoy1rlOjLgrO+txy6B/DXm1XEE1HE88KnS+4tU2xw+tx1qpbcP1OhP4pYNkdnxU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 791188.55372.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Gl3HprUVM1mpZXM4AkuNRN.KCfb3fFoL5RgiREo_MHRU8ro Yz9PLo1O1OPc63i5loZnx79H0hDPG.4ztq2eHgTQjIzzziLnnWDvZ0abHUm2 l2Bty41S9oPQRfJX81g69Yc2roRMT9OEZeSApKYxOb4GcxjTCcLKdZgjJOSH _wlQaAR67ettyie84fHsqXzQp4WIldjbzHtJFJJ.PlCHxNU_Eh9d4FAlV4Jb sbAQTyxJk4qBKTzx.sNxaL0mjCCU6X0mWImMO4wbmLs083p_.O4wW4HlmRpy YUkGg.burYEY3V2yRuFy9Zfb6FQERrMJLOQ1QxCdlMMhXtPBXmenSvRLEVq7 ZY7.3STqLCAgG6tka4zhgLOLXv_XPgr.9yUsosFlcBFwlXYhbfFGBZTPtyxi ukT3FAOWn0pobd6zTV5R5piHlSJV2mFDG_AQioVLn2nKo7ud2enPe82wO6DM 5hajeihihb75L58eO3QsUV7KicvqUYw4cTrTXIr.uF2VSOs2RiBGxcsPhcLy eEzZ7LovbRp5BOQU5vOM18cvBMiA.7o0S91EF.aqZvmLPGlaAPS.EQtbaS6. 25CFS_NQYOK8i6H83BUcP_ElQ338ZbAeCNJcW_Geidg7zeVxLLjNq9s_wg0l 8mk2v3rxcWn_4z_XDvlIfTLLcODEr5dy2emK4bPEqfvvneugWhwq9QD8z57p R4_dFJ8J2TXi97aN_wdm5bEUm4ML1LocBIq1bHToevmcDBFLxH0t9WdEBAYZ .6Ygw5O0DWxZtm.tl1.Q- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- From: Laurie Amat Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2C57CCE2-953B-4DA2-AD95-B384BB094D94" Subject: Re: New live looping piece Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:17:28 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:17:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_2C57CCE2-953B-4DA2-AD95-B384BB094D94 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My only criticism is that it's too short for my taste, meaning that I = could have listened to it for a long time. I guess I'll have to listen = to it in a piece loop! And you might want to check out Matthias Thurow = "Melancholia" It's really old, but I think you'll like it. It's more = collage, but, well, just check it out.=20 Beautiful work as always, and say Hello to your fine family! On Oct 30, 2012, at 1:48 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > Thanks :) >=20 > On Oct 30, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jack Cattedra" = wrote: > nice work bro. super chill! >=20 > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:22:53 -0700 > Subject: New live looping piece > From: k3zz21@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcwEUb4C33rU=20 >=20 > New piece that I just recorded 2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. = Hope you guys enjoy :) >=20 > --=20 > http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 >=20 > https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art >=20 > www.soundcloud.com/k3z >=20 --Apple-Mail=_2C57CCE2-953B-4DA2-AD95-B384BB094D94 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 My only criticism is that it's too short for my taste, meaning that I could have listened to it for a long time. I guess I'll have to listen to it in a piece loop! And you might want to check out Matthias Thurow "Melancholia" It's really old, but I think you'll like it. It's more collage, but, well, just check it out. 

Beautiful work as always, and say Hello to your fine family!

On Oct 30, 2012, at 1:48 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:

Thanks :)

On Oct 30, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jack Cattedra" <the_beat_conductor@hotmail.com> wrote:
nice work bro. super chill!

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:22:53 -0700
Subject: New live looping piece
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwEUb4C33rU

New piece that I just recorded  2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. Hope you guys enjoy :)

--
http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238

http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27

https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z


--Apple-Mail=_2C57CCE2-953B-4DA2-AD95-B384BB094D94-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 22:05:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0541618347A; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XKaWcVQcIFbnrLihP3Cjhp1i9l9phejIgCB7u9G46Lc=; b=uyTijcBdRgaR2wk8A07iFzRXC6G/lPbkdtYRotMAHYbiZYU+UiZBNrQG/aTmWp6n/C zdqas/oeU8Oe13JunFscP9vLg7McO7h+T6XRJMMXgVbRUCWKXc8Xb4KNKVfFeCroTiUY iLjc4otM730XoW+SaF80m5B1UX7QgjykTlgwInvmJzwyGIJmB83oZh5grinbSCaXk3Gw WwbLPqUBF4YemlQ3T+fjZSDKYiqJBUeQ62uHMja1ZpWF/mX+BFngp9T0+M3vtKseJaf9 GB3TGFgoDJYrbuPY5SvxNbQB7T9L47hE68Px6dMFsRzUN/8olFTVH4YTdCDbzbvbjbUE lk6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50902F72.8010508@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:05:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d03869d6a6c04cd4dfd2b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:05:58 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d03869d6a6c04cd4dfd2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My family and I too faired well. We were far enough inland in Park Slope that really only had constant wind and few down trees and thankfully never lost power. We were as several have echo'd much fortunate than those in coastal NJ and CT, feel for them. Mother Nature really spoke to the east coast in this one. I will see during the hours fellow looper and close friend Jeff [Duke] reached out to check on me yesterday during the day. The conversation led to a NinJam last night about 9:30 EST with me here in Brooklyn and Jeff in Florida. We have not played together in over a year and equally Jeff who has been healing from shoulder issues has only recently returned to playing. Last night he sounded like he'd never stopped. Here's a link to one of our sections. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jeff_Duke_Jim_Goodin_Through_the_Wire_Throug= h_the_Storm_102912.mp3 Peace to all and especially to those that are having a rough time out here. Jim > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote: >> >> Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of >> people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, >> etc... >> miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected >> so far. >> >> What a blessing. Glad you made it through. >> >> We've been praying for you out here on the Left Coast! >> >> Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan >> >> > > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --20cf307d03869d6a6c04cd4dfd2b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My family and I too faired well. =A0We were far enough inland in Park Slope= that really only had constant wind and few down trees and thankfully never= lost power. =A0We were as several have echo'd much fortunate than thos= e in coastal NJ and CT, feel for them. =A0Mother Nature really spoke to the= east coast in this one.

I will see during the hours fellow looper and close friend J= eff [Duke] reached out to check on me yesterday during the day. =A0The conv= ersation led to a NinJam last night about 9:30 EST with me here in Brooklyn= and Jeff in Florida. =A0We have not played together in over a year and equ= ally Jeff who has been healing from shoulder issues has only recently retur= ned to playing. =A0Last night he sounded like he'd never stopped. =A0He= re's a link to one of our sections.


Peace to all and especially to those that are having a = rough time out here.

Jim

On Tue, Oct= 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wr= ote:
=20 =20 =20
On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote:
Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for= a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc...
miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared bett= er than expected so far.
What a blessing. Glad you made it through.

=A0 We've been praying for you out here on the = Left Coast!

Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan







--
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jimgoodin.com= - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima= lism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--20cf307d03869d6a6c04cd4dfd2b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 22:34:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACC5B18347B; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UxadvMPtp0x6IYIDntg1IdLhCIKb5pndVLnU47hIn6g=; b=0eVxeNcg4ogFSQJPRiQOQlJ1KzPJPcM+WzZyzVBOAtBLMkQgxsf74/TnWDk+l+iHqq YUn4JGk3XENx7GWaNpOn3zyaYqs69W/poJNDwLFi9GYtbZ/63oKouJC8sfHD0caC80M4 MOGLNWwTjQNlEm1M9lMzifKKljysrGqWDUTvcuwjsgLTmZP58Ee85zQyvvqo22mPdSly 78ThXGskBqUVuu+zYXm+SvVUO/xMFJB/MSh60WsUlOh8dvy7SrYqVvVioDxDzNTYJwZH MYmw939xkQfyOV9VFb+tPqz3V/IfvySmWU22ki024y2h8yOw2FTBU/N/cF9+xeUv7JXW UvsA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:34:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: It's a Video of a Looping Performance From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec555548a4f79eb04cd4e6448 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:34:42 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec555548a4f79eb04cd4e6448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeXrVXk5DpA I made this here thing last night and figured I'd share it. The volume is a little low, as I was more or less testing the camera (thanks Kay'lon for suggesting the thing), but I liked the performance. Turn it up until you hear the closed hat ticking noise, and enjoy. T -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --bcaec555548a4f79eb04cd4e6448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGeXrVXk5DpA

I made this here thing last night and figured I'd share = it. The volume is a little low, as I was more or less testing the camera (t= hanks Kay'lon for suggesting the thing), but I liked the performance. T= urn it up until you hear the closed hat ticking noise, and enjoy.=A0

--bcaec555548a4f79eb04cd4e6448-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 04:44:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAF76183477; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_152a3ec2-ca14-4ab3-8a19-6ed5656a29cf_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: It's a Video of a Looping Performance Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:44:05 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2012 04:44:05.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[5BA910B0:01CDB722] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:44:06 +0000 (UTC) --_152a3ec2-ca14-4ab3-8a19-6ed5656a29cf_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dope=2C right down my alley. Sound's like a 60's film mystery scene or some= thing lol. What drum machine is that?? Date: Tue=2C 30 Oct 2012 15:34:40 -0700 Subject: It's a Video of a Looping Performance From: toddbert@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGeXrVXk5DpA I made this here thing last night and figured I'd share it. The volume is a= little low=2C as I was more or less testing the camera (thanks Kay'lon for= suggesting the thing)=2C but I liked the performance. Turn it up until you= hear the closed hat ticking noise=2C and enjoy.=20 T --=20 http://toaster.bandcamp.com = --_152a3ec2-ca14-4ab3-8a19-6ed5656a29cf_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dope=2C right down my alley. Sound's like a 60's film mystery scene or some= thing lol. What drum machine is that??

Date: Tue=2C 30 Oct 2012 15:34:40 -07= 00
Subject: It's a Video of a Looping Performance
From: toddbert@gmai= l.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGeXrVXk5DpA

I made this here thing last night and figured I'd share it. = The volume is a little low=2C as I was more or less testing the camera (tha= nks Kay'lon for suggesting the thing)=2C but I liked the performance. Turn = it up until you hear the closed hat ticking noise=2C and enjoy. =3B

= --_152a3ec2-ca14-4ab3-8a19-6ed5656a29cf_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 04:49:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E036183475; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2zlG9JFccapRd2h8N2Am9ysMZbsbxKK7qF61DVdxybs=; b=m6gzyUQJWHFlY10o0xublAja9/MgtHx9RnmZiRuGD9fvWe+JKj8Cl2dtXJeCTEKrGw sAkc68QepX8CSEnMorrK07+C3atVGjTkkm4pTjn73X2fFDADM2hsVKW88JgXpAF4Q2q0 UcGW2Zks3MMs2ETkHS4TFBpL3WUC7s/d41RlTRyBTrr4hWPdV4tLmC3QuNP164rV+12j j7VtYqDd6ObRB95jZ0+oYD6woSk5cXnG0EoPFMZjer149F1YYZmi8Dr7Gwyhrwl86pIp DftfCtQM4bm1kvI6ljKHTmXDYDQGJI7dYOnpc7VOgS4buPpaMuzkHng2MQySuzC09p7h EcIw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:49:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c08562ea53804cd53a155 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:49:38 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c08562ea53804cd53a155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I want to work torwards making my looping sound more like Intelligent Dance Music. Its a much more "mature" sounding music than what I do now. Anybody have any knowledge on the genre? --f46d043c08562ea53804cd53a155 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

I want to work torwards making my looping sound more like Intelligent Dance Music. Its a much more "mature" sounding music than what I do now. Anybody have any knowledge on the genre?

--f46d043c08562ea53804cd53a155-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 04:55:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 902D2183477; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cjvibUBGPZH0wH0EKjvYRnrLgT5zAAz81+4bItEVbxc=; b=wyb5Gz6KgVwsipd/DIeW1jeu9TdwqRmQchOjj6Pl6UscaH6GyhSNjKOKjnMSj+0d0y 9RpxU6WBbrvHe18O/9AXn6xb2ymFNDlvl01wlByL6mO8yyHSLQDL1d+m48JtMgmakc6u 0SXA4APnfQxWnkAdeSVOk5tIDIVi0NIGzQlO9zyRut5V84/9YureeFQSgXEQATMkFOAL tx1KCEVe5mY8R2ERvMm5BDWIrh/+tdoq9aCMawAvEZIyIIESA1S6RIF2H7PKqdUkARSO /ag6OqOLv+hFc/uxEXJ0zHV24jgCHeeDjeatocjPBM2Fjy/+ehQXkZpuE++WY/Jb6HrD rjfg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:55:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043085704abb5904cd53b7f4 Resent-Message-ID: <_Pmea.A.tDE.V9KkQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:55:49 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043085704abb5904cd53b7f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sure. I've been a monster fan of IDM for years, and have made some stabs at it, though not in a looping context. Whaddya want to know? T On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > I want to work torwards making my looping sound more like Intelligent > Dance Music. Its a much more "mature" sounding music than what I do now. > Anybody have any knowledge on the genre? > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --f46d043085704abb5904cd53b7f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure. I've been a monster fan of IDM for years, and have made some stab= s at it, though not in a looping context. Whaddya want to know?

T

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM= , kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to work torwards making my looping= sound more like Intelligent Dance Music. Its a much more "mature"= ; sounding music than what I do now. Anybody have any knowledge on the genr= e?




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--f46d043085704abb5904cd53b7f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 05:03:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A07C8183476; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=foWZw+s+hCMPhQYUmcyhLc00XblNf4Fc0wf2xRnmY40=; b=QuwjjihOrPzJfNsmh2gv/nJ1XWITTYsJsG5F3USSnl+MJo/lZowN3H7A3eW1cp9wcI TtqujrTuzRCy/RNdok7iwCOiXAJ8dmkfFPBUO4AX843A+MEe9RGOwhro3YCIzUPbbqY8 FyNqG7LvzXX4G7mjy6tUmT7KTBlRBVlGAdyhFH7FclscSsBYoe5XoTEbjCMdou46n6A2 Drp5QVsolwLfqsHUYt4b8o8m/pc2FdaVN1R8ESe3XWyPSaV+qea6IQcMrhmkhhByjirY fb2eVF089tUD9KDwRNMX4KYe9bo3eCj53jearVb7Z2RJHaE7RkHz5Put/AryNGfE9nqK eyzQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:03:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: It's a Video of a Looping Performance From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9d7181a4e0db404cd53d436 Resent-Message-ID: <5H3SVB.A.DNE.8ELkQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:03:56 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9d7181a4e0db404cd53d436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Glad you dig. The drum machine is an Elektron Machinedrum. Also used (off camera) was a SammichFM. T On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Jack Cattedra < the_beat_conductor@hotmail.com> wrote: > Dope, right down my alley. Sound's like a 60's film mystery scene or > something lol. What drum machine is that?? > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:34:40 -0700 > Subject: It's a Video of a Looping Performance > From: toddbert@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeXrVXk5DpA > > I made this here thing last night and figured I'd share it. The volume is > a little low, as I was more or less testing the camera (thanks Kay'lon for > suggesting the thing), but I liked the performance. Turn it up until you > hear the closed hat ticking noise, and enjoy. > > T > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --14dae9d7181a4e0db404cd53d436 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glad you dig. The drum machine is an Elektron Machinedrum. Also used (off c= amera) was a SammichFM.

T

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Jack Cattedra <th= e_beat_conductor@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dope, right down my alley. Sound's like a 60's film mystery scene o= r something lol. What drum machine is that??

Dat= e: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:34:40 -0700
Subject: It's a Video of a Loopin= g Performance
From: toddbert@gmai= l.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


http://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3DGeXrVXk5DpA

I made this here thing last night and figured I'd share = it. The volume is a little low, as I was more or less testing the camera (t= hanks Kay'lon for suggesting the thing), but I liked the performance. T= urn it up until you hear the closed hat ticking noise, and enjoy.=A0




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--14dae9d7181a4e0db404cd53d436-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 05:37:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A0FF18347B; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FkerGEck0DyEmyBAAGKTAaCV8A0Xmsi0zIbmNtGRl1w=; b=wigDmvcDtr4Pz5wu+Y5lfjDEQFxhIwoHQZ57npEbCLNdm2Bs7cVE+a0LITgM12fqPm bTTina24PKJc/r5KCiopmmXgB597SpDluP0ecUOUCeh5YjNAV7R8n2boTWU0EyZSICrK wySt4QWL/U+jHjssDKE5AK3ZN58QBBIQkgPXZLmH2MimYuDqWlvXVf44OB6Xsdj8dPLD 10FFZc36hoyd5IfZKPS2bCBYRBwiDkWo2o8BBja1etWNL14vgeShyzaijmn/7UC1QgIb k2CEKAbvZay9wdiEwRoYsCbBYuS7+0G5xrAJ+E9Sjs3QRjckL/pN6JTbXEKoIR/8UwMm G8hw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:37:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d62657360ecd04cd544ddb Resent-Message-ID: <1jtStC.A.wcE.okLkQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:37:44 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d62657360ecd04cd544ddb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What are some basic things I should know about the style as far as composing? On Oct 30, 2012 9:55 PM, "Todd Elliott" wrote: > Sure. I've been a monster fan of IDM for years, and have made some stabs > at it, though not in a looping context. Whaddya want to know? > > T > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > >> I want to work torwards making my looping sound more like Intelligent >> Dance Music. Its a much more "mature" sounding music than what I do now. >> Anybody have any knowledge on the genre? >> > > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > --0016e6d62657360ecd04cd544ddb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What are some basic things I should know about the style as far as compo= sing?

On Oct 30, 2012 9:55 PM, "Todd Elliott"= ; <toddbert@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Sure. I've been a monster fan of IDM for years, and have made some stab= s at it, though not in a looping context. Whaddya want to know?

T

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM= , kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to work torwards making my looping= sound more like Intelligent Dance Music. Its a much more "mature"= ; sounding music than what I do now. Anybody have any knowledge on the genr= e?




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--0016e6d62657360ecd04cd544ddb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 12:16:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35F58183476; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Yuym9pWIBdkth07vxB5ZEbtdc+46uuEflZatgIu/rSs=; b=UL2vQJ0T7FcLvgAOb7EAnVDSE3LUfBshD3XfEE9Cw78l+20fbJCirOp7uMWaiDkRvH Uw3+wa5ZPeAMtAXUdSQ/LT8et2cnKh+ZUfELXZ+HJ8PhYK7u6/rJ/XxazhYmz6hFp1C+ Bwh6hgfCaiyLHiN7IbYK1vxz86iZSBczQnU5GCjd22JOSnPe8fSG7+J/x2sgamh7VlMw W64B9Ox4bXYpr95hFUMviqw5zHzXYjlVVAJQeiy319XqPbi+Hrq/5N0wVvo6lFiVqXtp G8reKokILsMdCYMIFNr3eltLz9w/viiz0/ePpJz1wJJgFeSRg4aDD1pg9EbADTACUzNd adsw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:16:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:16:40 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:37 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >>Intelligent Dance Music. > What are some basic things I should know about the style as far as > composing? Why not listen to some IDM to find out about that? The point in IDM is that there are no rules and that you can't dance to the music unless following some highly intelligent strategy for how to move your body related to the sounds coming at you. IMHO this attitude has a bit of a Dada revival to it. So how to produce IDM? The best rule how to fail crating IDM would be to follow what you hear others are doing. This is special, because in most musical genres "doing covers" or parroting can lead you to rather decent results. Not so in IDM and that makes it difficult to talk about. It is very much up to every composer to work out his own language/dialect, and we are all different. The biggest challenge for me, in IDM producing, is to avoid using melodic fundaments in composing. One trick is to focus on sound, movement and evolution (this may even mean crating music that is static in the sense that it doesn't evolve somewhere - but usually there is a flow). On the technical side you can try out methods to sequence, cut up, slice and dice sound fragments - because normally it is not possible to directly play IDM; you may play a sequencer to create IDM on-the-fly but your role is more like the director's than being a musician. As for software anything goes. From cutting up and reordering audio files on the screen to setting up systems of inter modulating sequencer mosules like in Numerology or custom built Max patches. Oh, we must not forget to mention Mobius here as well, since you can script ultra fast and weird sample mutilation. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 12:34:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B28C8183476; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:34:28 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01D3odTH/dVX4NrWO1UITegrpOqIyvPX+nkL5QqYW0RYKofq8I8I4=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:34:44 +0000 (UTC) The only IDM I know well is Boards of Canada. Their sound comes as much from their analog synths as anything else - beautifully warm, shimmering tones. I have no analog synths but U-he Diva does this beautifully. In terms of rhythm, as far as I'm aware IDM uses much the same rhythms as other kinds of electronic music but at a relatively slow tempo. Take a drum and bass beat and slow it down and you've got an IDM beat - slow it down some more and you have dubstep. That's an oversimplification but tempo is a big part of it. Like any kind of music I don't think there are any real secrets, just some basic parameters and tendencies that characterise the genre. Don't worry about borrowing stuff either. Half of electronic music seems to be based on that damned Amen break. Take a beat you like, recreate it using whatever tools you want, tweak it, twist it, change it - customise it, if you like. Alternatively, step away from your gear, take a walk, get some fresh air and make up a beat in your head, hum or beatbox it to a dictaphone or something and then recreate that with your equipment. Add some moody, dark synth sounds with plenty of vibrato. Intelligent Dance Music is rarely something that you'd want to dance to (aren't genre names silly?!) but if you want it to be intelligent - well, there are no formulas for that except experimentation and putting your own creativity into the music. Just have some fun! --On 30 October 2012 22:37 -0700 kay'lon rushing wrote: > > What are some basic things I should know about the style as far as > composing? > On Oct 30, 2012 9:55 PM, "Todd Elliott" wrote: > > Sure. I've been a monster fan of IDM for years, and have made some stabs > at it, though not in a looping context. Whaddya want to know? > > > T > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > > I want to work torwards making my looping sound more like Intelligent > Dance Music. Its a much more "mature" sounding music than what I do now. > Anybody have any knowledge on the genre? > > > > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 12:58:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A59183476; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Nl6JFQDtr9Oqmzj1OV+hzo/49Un7fzq0EnCtsE2M5us=; b=EumZADGc75ZYsWEXiCdJoHt5bxvDfH6iQ8aeJJ0UMOa9fW0hCje8djL/I3cqk09lf/ uF+weXK+Mo4F1Z2MRmwqEnRqIMLtF4aUI/aOu7Igv2Ww2Eg63vTE2whBQHoPYi/FotwD tgZ7bw7VLHirp9yB/5TKEQOcLYYaNuKMGCCFkZiGo7ri48LE0iES90AyqLpH3wu0WvMU yuPuKDplp1bz33nwxgnIQF+QraPCwViwhUXvsfqawSh8/F/ZpoHZptewODe/KJAcbv5G EGQH/zKhGq46Rdh3vB63FLrXeH/f/TOpj4H5Qv7NgMDzrTkY4IDVlVRoqhVwnapevtYz qnJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:58:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:58:54 +0000 (UTC) IDM is really a label that a record executive came up with to sell dance music to people who don't dance... that being said, there is some really good stuff out there (I like Amon Tobin a lot). I think of IDM as electroacoustic music with a beat (or without a beat, there are few rules). There's definitely a greater emphasis on sound design and process and the song forms are less predictable. Like Per said, it's not a genre in the usual sense... You'll have to figure out your own thing. I think you should spend some time with some good books, such as: - Holme's Electronic and experimental Music (historical) - Demer's Listening through the noise (aesthetics) - Hugil's The Digital Musician (technical, social, aesthetics, historical, etc... it has an amazing bibliography) and so on... reading such books and listening to the suggested discography should help you gain perspective on your music and ultimately make it sound more mature and, perhaps, more intelligent ;) Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 13:03:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 375D8183475; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VK/ed/Y6vn1VSBBM7XKoMaLWQU1ZpjFYfCRYJj6ecCs=; b=YJQcCu2lj5pT+WcXSVnmbGsJEJwiVRz4FAH8YKGLCwn2j3iOG/lnLn4IoENv9GC/Q3 l2OvJ8zDU+wxzIAuPqfnOLXOucf5e6QuJqZ1iKL2LJ0flXyLk9q702WPbARO/tS2Abt4 9dwUZ8oXP1BqX188JmIPMgnRGyyzLavlUQLXe0Vu3bMoup3cYDOiGAWpj1Cg3+Tu3bB1 jKN8kZa5t/ChUiz9n8fWFwC4P4TJKyMfDMslSoAEOhFANgFMUKCmjIM2AmMJv2gq3BDU 3a8vTcHH2kbXEB4/MAXP+pV6stTNYmln0Mg2zyb77zLjv2hgtbU35Vm78zj70Urz6Lmm G9yw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:03:00 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Steve Moyes Live Looping Live on Ustream From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04012171afa40a04cd5a8508 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:03:01 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04012171afa40a04cd5a8508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As it says Steve Moyes live http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain now! --f46d04012171afa40a04cd5a8508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 As it says Steve Moyes live http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain now!
--f46d04012171afa40a04cd5a8508-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 13:03:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94E54183481; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KKfbbHAFpETxp3D6DlvG4ZRr1ktckQZ3KPvvIPJu8+g=; b=ABrbEmewxSJXY6YRuq7N9c3GXXOlAsjiKNmmeNWCiC0s6WMWpNFd+KgakTSAZlM8nH TfdYcyrrce3A64oYBLfraj5rr+DxPot7BGMGe/rpWwZJZPfOajbGs+SntraxoWcXWcqS h4vYvTgd99XwbvR4TnatBcfbyrox/4E81X/sF31HiRpVESYktEMuGvilAILB6kK+HGPI SYmWUDq2GZMuiXtQT98T/RPaHWszkWQbXlqPGuBawaxcplKUuIOsR8lazB1CeQMYoTyv 4tbt2fPsBdpLCX4hFFbFivSE3bk+zTtEA/u/pNn2Mnxe5usM/u1Xn2cZ01vz1awnevDX a8Rw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:03:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:03:21 +0000 (UTC) > IDM "How to kill your darlings" A lot of the success in IDM producing has to do with finding ways to break free from your own limitations. If you just listen and play along "like a musician" your playing will be based on how you are used to play; your finger's muscle memory and music you have heard and liked. Right now I remembered this interview with Deadmau5: His trick for transcending this limitation is to jam like crazy and record everything. He plays anything, drum machine, analog synths, sequences them while going wild on their filters, waveform controls etc. Then he stuffs away all instruments and brings the recorded stereo files into a computer to cut out pieces that he think sounds fun. Sometimes a number of snippets can be put together into a new IDM compositions and sometimes he adds additional stuff on top of that. Working with Mobius can be done in the same method as in the Deadmau5 example. Set up some super wild scripts, apply them to your audio input (your playing?) while having Mobius snag a full performance stereo file of the main output. When you're done, remember to Save Project before turning off Mobius so you will also get all loops you created in the frenzy, neatly presented on the disc in folders named after track number and loop number. Finally, number three: remember to take note of the Mobius tempo in case you will splice snippets together in a DAW with option of tempo synced effects. Quite often when I have used this method I have found, to my surprise, that the best music comes out when I don't use much at all from the performance recording (my playing) but rather stick together parts of the separate loops. Here's a sounding example of such a Mobius IDM thing where no original input signal was kept, just the looped material: http://perboysen.bandcamp.com/track/slip-out-of-it-2 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 13:35:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB19B183473; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tWagAvWqm23VX+zuRUW+QJe9Uh4tqE2e0QZknvuc8jg=; b=du+P1RLI7rFVTvqmCKN2xoLi1Tx8CSzK8lcXLGCmDRL4fblkEOpEYi6IWvUSk6DuaF lnceeUxBearrGgwnDyRzgXQE2Suy2ZV8ZEtta1fjutSfsCeEokbH9V0PN9fJq/1LbBPO EXakM2pouB678ROR3k/zggOeR89lbQqC/Bq11eFJMCQvr7X+KPi3O+NFUJX6cogMnpAz Omdu+4u/flxUbNNkKfT8qXyJ+hjHsomAIE2SI5dRFS/dUaEB5ki2WNK3w9BWubLvaf1d szLR6UsLd72dApRyL6tqGX7+XWppv9IcSKlNRz7ANpKf1+QofrorcFp6aMvVmI+5BTfH HdQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:35:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:35:57 +0000 (UTC) > A lot of the success in IDM producing has to do with finding ways to > break free from your own limitations. Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend! Sound great, Per! thanks, Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 13:50:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA52D18347A; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qVTJQDM1BtsVm7gRmQOnfPOTwBOP+cor3pDv2Y1i4uo=; b=ist/wtgPlUQxK6E8+CNmB7MO+zfDOR4D3tzaz5ClBb/tkZK+/282iEgwoAaz0/AKEu ptw4V8/nnxXvQuDD5BrDhalk/+usfL8tLQuyqb+6qYg+DvABA155aa4K69Ke/ZcWJC1i J9Q/ia41wp2YwS6yABY6zGwfC5ASBSGLLO54uPZZbZ2hMhlu5DFpFJz4GD0x9fADE5tZ 7egJ0grMgHFxjh6SyUkMASqtnx7AY24Pw93l4paHUN9QUCaY2MGLXBV7cTmaVf5HkpvX gzJ5uOYScCt5IMh8r5LdwFJRYl5+e0uIdENjht69a3XCbWygsWUDKd4D0d8CsZujEO33 yHEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:50:16 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb201cab6168504cd5b2e0c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:50:17 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb201cab6168504cd5b2e0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 try autechre. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > > A lot of the success in IDM producing has to do with finding ways to > > break free from your own limitations. > > Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend! > > Sound great, Per! > thanks, > > Sylvain > > --e89a8fb201cab6168504cd5b2e0c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable try autechre.=A0

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at = 9:35 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
> A lot of the success = in IDM producing has to do with finding ways to
> break free from your own limitations.

Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend!

Sound great, Per!
thanks,

Sylvain


--e89a8fb201cab6168504cd5b2e0c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 15:00:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0DDC18347A; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vocJSWRbUtr9i/0aGucyBrVDTvSLOEQjQ+jlNiF/lKo=; b=cVY7wSUkkGBdEf/ZsEzawrAfwYV8L2Wa9Lkm6x865rDHc/TFKxWsKnhzbO/qlsrGzg lhRFVpV2wlspI0rRGOnNxguu/36i7StesggwoMOZ4jzxV7S79Wvdqc1/qC+WnRNkCtEr 36spV6Dd5Ano002IZjWvUeM4pZc+E/kES2ZiAuV2231Mx4nciS4Tezm4p4oqgu2lxMsV EBiiXPmGdbn0zdCshmLpYV/dVRo8JYoLfPvKZUfFHp2Jg1VqQbmA78W19KpYoCie6scx nJKgHwCj0qyNUU9tBs0JcEP0DRCYxKEONlNOpxkoLyt/7srBBCWXR7jPAwfMdIl7oyI3 8rPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:00:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aLS5P9ddQON3FwxwwkJRaJ3qfUw Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: daniel To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04088d2332015604cd5c2bb2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:00:54 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04088d2332015604cd5c2bb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 music: check out Prefuse73, SquarePusher, Lucky Dragons gear: check out the Eventide SPACE. It's a reverb pedal with some amazing presets, including a glitch-beat On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, eib halimski wrote: > try autechre. > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Sylvain Poitras < > sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > A lot of the success in IDM producing has to do with finding ways to >> > break free from your own limitations. >> >> Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend! >> >> Sound great, Per! >> thanks, >> >> Sylvain >> >> > --f46d04088d2332015604cd5c2bb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable music: check out Prefuse73, SquarePusher, Lucky Dragons
gear: check out= the Eventide SPACE. It's a reverb pedal with some amazing presets, inc= luding a glitch-beat =A0


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, eib halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
try autechre.=A0


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
> A lot of the success in IDM produc= ing has to do with finding ways to
> break free from your own limitations.

Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend!

Sound great, Per!
thanks,

Sylvain



--f46d04088d2332015604cd5c2bb2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:29:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8BFC183477; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rA9jOQjmx0NRSB99k2Py48KRCoOn7jxAg77ZrusUvi4=; b=IhSQR8ODzp2lmJYN3mV/hq7WUfOQW77JwSLIjZkAxKRQI16iXTJOE8kegLO4kEiGAT 2w+/13SI/d+bVP5y0xeKMj20szCwYOCrTerGvnwIAsnelw9je45/BHDDdyN38zUMW7Z5 C1NiMBMZRjLxF/D7zf1LxHmywvQpVmzJiArruSx+hp2cYrw3dV3043SJsxLYZUYqgd+j sIJnXQNUY2Gv4y45B/jClYv4prx3lGvdXzKif8hsuLPS5lpWeVsPxSeB+ySrX+y9OzMu anNHtDwnudoMNiWrxWfdLKsLROb5quFPsB31nRijf4AIoSZ4l+UJc9BQS7g3Wrb5c/GR hgcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:29:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5555600e8e67d04cd5d6624 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:29:10 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5555600e8e67d04cd5d6624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As you've no doubt read, one of the problems with IDM is that no one can really define it, but they know it when they hear it. A lot of it relies on taking a single element of other sorts of dance music and stretching it in some manner until it nearly breaks : Squarepusher (in his frenzied electonic guise) uses 10,000 variants on the Amen break, Autechre experiment with rhythm until some of their music really consists of nothing BUT rhythm, and so on. I'd start by playing around with the beats you use-- add some uncommon sounds, use a breakbeat or two, and go from there. Overemphasize some aspect of what you do and see if it sounds good. A fun little (and fairly cheap) piece of software to help you create off/uncommon patterns is Axon http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=AD026-- I use it for drum patterns, and this track: http://toaster.bandcamp.com/track/afraid-of-flower-s was composed almost entirely with it-- someone who actually knows what they are doing could probably do a heck of a lot better. That having been said, don't be too lured in by gear/software/etc. Most cool music comes out of working through/past limitations that existing gear provides. Hope this helps, and keep on creating, T On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:00 AM, daniel wrote: > music: check out Prefuse73, SquarePusher, Lucky Dragons > gear: check out the Eventide SPACE. It's a reverb pedal with some amazing > presets, including a glitch-beat > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, eib halimski wrote: > >> try autechre. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Sylvain Poitras < >> sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > A lot of the success in IDM producing has to do with finding ways to >>> > break free from your own limitations. >>> >>> Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend! >>> >>> Sound great, Per! >>> thanks, >>> >>> Sylvain >>> >>> >> > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --bcaec5555600e8e67d04cd5d6624 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As you've no doubt read, one of the problems with IDM is that no one ca= n really define it, but they know it when they hear it. A lot of it relies = on taking a single element of other sorts of dance music and stretching it = in some manner until it nearly breaks : Squarepusher (in his frenzied elect= onic guise) uses 10,000 variants on the Amen break, Autechre experiment wit= h rhythm until some of their music really consists of nothing BUT rhythm, a= nd so on. I'd start by playing around with the beats you use-- add some= uncommon sounds, use a breakbeat or two, and go from there.=A0

Overemphasize some aspect of what you do and see if it sound= s good.=A0

A fun little (and fairly cheap) piece of soft= ware to help you create off/uncommon patterns is Axon=A0http://www.audiod= amage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=3DAD026-- I use it for drum patte= rns, and this track:=A0http://toaster.bandcamp.com/track/afraid-of-flower-s was c= omposed almost entirely with it-- someone who actually knows what they are = doing could probably do a heck of a lot better.=A0

That having been said, don't be too lured in by gea= r/software/etc. Most cool music comes out of working through/past limitatio= ns that existing gear provides.=A0

Hope this helps= , and keep on creating,

T

On Wed, Oct = 31, 2012 at 8:00 AM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:
music: check out Prefuse73, SquarePusher, Lu= cky Dragons
gear: check out the Eventide SPACE. It's a reverb pedal= with some amazing presets, including a glitch-beat =A0


=
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, eib halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
try autechre.=A0




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= http://toaster.ba= ndcamp.com
--bcaec5555600e8e67d04cd5d6624-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:32:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC5AF18347B; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=f+46D+PeJzPk9F4lsNnzdINbFJNCyDKPnsw+xImrU7o=; b=LKZ/Ef8WfnivK1PIbFOYuJpFWzxLud/Ed3/wAWFHyg5BzQQWmaPrVtP9q7jm5kkfSZ yycNNnN0RPFogwik0We2lM1ykTX7rnzf/s4KOMfBdET4Ojh4wi2XHmexhE+CPETmedxI 0TbemYNOKVXzhSAsUVSlbzzNZDk8nrpO6Tx9hj2TrEwhAx93LkhuXDwVupxElyWQG5dJ NrWMKSDywR+uQ/qu0f2y9cLmTDTkJQB0zPAn8Hv7eIEqo3lfCz1mu+eWCIl7p/WnsAor Ohv43/lQBjCldEHphLFlWIC3BQlKHCAaTfOPAbffYT4c9FNwSrev/fMLIu85gZcQ66Of Gp/Q== From: Simeon Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--268210860 Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:32:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <46F03216-4DFB-4B23-B19D-18EF684F2729@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:32:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--268210860 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii this link doesn't work, i think it's been truncated - were you pointing = to Replicant? very cool plugin On 31 Oct 2012, at 16:29, Todd Elliott wrote: > http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=3DAD026-- --Apple-Mail-2--268210860 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
= http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=3DAD026--

= --Apple-Mail-2--268210860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:36:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52985183477; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MfpKUA4WvbbGcg8nKvj4za1+KbX+XOm6D7zWomjGFWw=; b=xxK7tvzDZPsRSc0S7n0H/WgbmuMnbDYP6U7YgZEBaG/eVZYOEKtHYpCu1vyEMa41TR KkjjdeEDjXk0tZmmkmZY3GAL9P14RZHwM2GYId/Kah6XnibpqGHjVpq2LQu74KyfKQ9K WsF8CZ4MiOL6GZNmOAus30+zjNh1WQexeHCbVpvD6qCX9+ryZWLMw+KggIjNKU4e2gna LbeVIfzi6UOgkuzBNNGTlrQc9EQMG3YedfxaZancBALz1i9oHGvpLvQneIPZU3tKYp8y Jt5Jcz1NygsCk5jm/jdwKGz1HeRftWeYTXlNdLRSvM5gn7qZ+lF3F42VfRGlfGEVEfWp CE9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <46F03216-4DFB-4B23-B19D-18EF684F2729@googlemail.com> References: <46F03216-4DFB-4B23-B19D-18EF684F2729@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:36:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:36:21 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > this link doesn't work, i think it's been truncated - were you pointing to > Replicant? very cool plugin > > On 31 Oct 2012, at 16:29, Todd Elliott wrote: > > http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=AD026-- He said "Axon" so this must be the correct link (without the two last lines) http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=AD026 Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:54:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3F3918347A; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9lXBRKqwAz5Tpm3xiLpIj4GxpP3ZR3LBioi0i+oqcto=; b=XaP70GGzUQupvZHTnD78VtjtN/JuCuw1HZSRSINpRJiuLPhP2KKxfBHT6Qzf1GN/Qw Mgik+m7TA7C4ok36nDBttWFN29AzbQJWPZGrhOFpFNaRXySTcNepgO5QzWxDfHXQfV78 Dcmp5lS8ZioCngIP28NwWkJJBCvi1eVzNFVMRE+ASv5tSWbOgEBJWAauYiM4V1q0W/Ba pK3VIKmlSnjMF2zinya0ffpuds9yzb7PW7YdYyUSf/5dbUfBpfwRo4jc5+cuvQOAFdA4 qsad36sNcW2ctSRwpHqJdKNTcFMTH8bUUPjHkjqSz0LditgciCg+y4QjJlZVV0paq3xN S/Vw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <46F03216-4DFB-4B23-B19D-18EF684F2729@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:54:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec555560046f12004cd5dc1c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:54:26 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec555560046f12004cd5dc1c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, that's it. It's my fault for using "--" as punctuation so damn frequently-- --T On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > this link doesn't work, i think it's been truncated - were you pointing > to > > Replicant? very cool plugin > > > > On 31 Oct 2012, at 16:29, Todd Elliott wrote: > > > > http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=AD026-- > > > He said "Axon" so this must be the correct link (without the two last > lines) > > http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=AD026 > > Per > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --bcaec555560046f12004cd5dc1c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, that's it. It's my fault for using "--" as punctuat= ion so damn frequently--

--T

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
On W= ed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> this link doesn't work, i think it's been truncated - were you= pointing to
> Replicant? very cool plugin
>
> On 31 Oct 2012, at 16:29, Todd Elliott wrote:
>
> http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php= ?pid=3DAD026--


He said "Axon" so this must be the correct link (with= out the two last lines)

http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=3D= AD026

Per




-- http://toaster.= bandcamp.com
--bcaec555560046f12004cd5dc1c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 17:03:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A394183466; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kdmJJI6P0LKWChUahW0Eu8CvRxnG0EY2QQdrnkcnh5k=; b=NrvK+61KpaiWhsLcZlMkeqfuBt/AeBuTqeT1S+453SQHBbEB4gouRlssdOd4lbKiwq CmSmHK3hwEsQYBptVek3PrJuJccSiHh9rrXo1wlhjTf+21ogRljG5R076Owmn70UIyeQ kzsgqrXYyqkXDyKopCYQUX05JuEcrUabh4KAH8XOQviFY2q/doeW1phIpVxEVqjdix3+ Pa8KCJCl+uUM3A3l2N/f65hBIZocWqFFxQcKoN2BGCWZEWxn37qsGhx021ULUtM2l/1/ 74gnReUyDhbgc+qcte4MYo+EAlyqPutiZCQc1vfhq9YWguAUEfyTI1RdUBxphKeedYm3 kAIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <46F03216-4DFB-4B23-B19D-18EF684F2729@googlemail.com> References: <46F03216-4DFB-4B23-B19D-18EF684F2729@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:03:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC) One of the easiest to define characteristics of IDM for me was the use of very short drum/percussion sounds. It was the opposite of trip hop, where the lots of fx and reverb were added to the rhythm tracks. Lots of IDM also imitated the sounds of skipping CDs and digital errors. That can be done by editing your samples so that they start in the middle of a sound instead of at the beginning. Also, to get that click sound, set the beginning of your sample to NOT be at a zero crossing (point at which the amplitude is 0db) One of my favorite bands, Efterklang, put out a couple really great records that combined small ensemble-type instruments (like piano, strings and horns) with IDM-style electronics. Check out their record "Parades" On a related note, can I tell you how happy I am that people finally got tired of amen breaks? -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > this link doesn't work, i think it's been truncated - were you pointing to > Replicant? very cool plugin > > On 31 Oct 2012, at 16:29, Todd Elliott wrote: > > http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=AD026-- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 17:10:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82BCA183479; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PTLeJgPSXjekbXDOgP2y2zeSnqTr/bcYZVFRVvWoSr0=; b=LpoDKoSlW9Cz8KTvjexd+1hWyr9oBavfQNms104+j9q7yGxq7osLThRMEGUpWH1Dj1 g38RtcX94wlW3N7OU3CDBCp/nejTbm0aJl1DoH+y3aFBzcGWW6RZqqZfuIpNBWDvd8nz hQQ2/A3jTbbSUUXjlGit7lkZ7MQzZYnYJvI4DsRmVY/KcqFK8kbXVLcOVxZk9WsVXANx GecRl5AgzrcsR8oDMESRQmsFnXlwHJcMFH7g8g0P6oKh5btrsFVJHBoxEyENtS9QMMRF PGugAKkEqgPFG6ibSSJOgCAd1nXx14tT0JynDJa1K666Ke8qGPPoJ+krQILsch3fvv/a fEGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <46F03216-4DFB-4B23-B19D-18EF684F2729@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:10:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe2f1676c52004cd5dfa7e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:10:26 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4efe2f1676c52004cd5dfa7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "On a related note, can I tell you how happy I am that people finally got tired of amen breaks?" I dunno, man, I still like breakcore from time to time; Venetian Snares takes things to a goofy new level on occasion. My favorite running of a sample into the ground, however, is Shitmat's "Killabablonkutz" in which he uses the same vocal sample *in every song*. It's both hilarious and irritating at the same time. As a bonus, it contains "Amen Babylon"-- which overuses the Amen break WHILE using the vocal sample and a gospel 'Amen'. It's a thing of hilarious beauty. T On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > One of the easiest to define characteristics of IDM for me was the use > of very short drum/percussion sounds. It was the opposite of trip hop, > where the lots of fx and reverb were added to the rhythm tracks. Lots > of IDM also imitated the sounds of skipping CDs and digital errors. > That can be done by editing your samples so that they start in the > middle of a sound instead of at the beginning. Also, to get that click > sound, set the beginning of your sample to NOT be at a zero crossing > (point at which the amplitude is 0db) > > One of my favorite bands, Efterklang, put out a couple really great > records that combined small ensemble-type instruments (like piano, > strings and horns) with IDM-style electronics. Check out their record > "Parades" > > On a related note, can I tell you how happy I am that people finally > got tired of amen breaks? > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > this link doesn't work, i think it's been truncated - were you pointing > to > > Replicant? very cool plugin > > > > On 31 Oct 2012, at 16:29, Todd Elliott wrote: > > > > http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php?pid=AD026-- > > > > > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --e0cb4efe2f1676c52004cd5dfa7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "On a related note, can I tell you how happy I am that people finally<= br>got tired of amen breaks?"

I dunno, man, I still= like breakcore from time to time; Venetian Snares takes things to a goofy = new level on occasion.=A0

My favorite running of a sample into the ground, howeve= r, is Shitmat's "Killabablonkutz" in which he uses the same v= ocal sample *in every song*. It's both hilarious and irritating at the = same time. As a bonus, it contains "Amen Babylon"-- which overuse= s the Amen break WHILE using the vocal sample and a gospel 'Amen'. = It's a thing of hilarious beauty.=A0

T

On Wed, Oct = 31, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
One of the easiest to define characteristics= of IDM for me was the use
of very short drum/percussion sounds. It was the opposite of trip hop,
where the lots of fx and reverb were added to the rhythm tracks. Lots
of IDM also imitated the sounds of skipping CDs and digital errors.
That can be done by editing your samples so that they start in the
middle of a sound instead of at the beginning. Also, to get that click
sound, set the beginning of your sample to NOT be at a zero crossing
(point at which the amplitude is 0db)

One of my favorite bands, Efterklang, put out a couple really great
records that combined small ensemble-type instruments (like piano,
strings and horns) with IDM-style electronics. Check out their record
"Parades"

On a related note, can I tell you how happy I am that people finally
got tired of amen breaks?

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> this link doesn't work, i think it's been truncated - were you= pointing to
> Replicant? very cool plugin
>
> On 31 Oct 2012, at 16:29, Todd Elliott wrote:
>
> http://www.audiodamage.com/instruments/product.php= ?pid=3DAD026--
>
>




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--e0cb4efe2f1676c52004cd5dfa7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 17:17:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8443183482; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Another little demo In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF85A2B35A58DF_11EC_21C2C_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37130-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF85A2B35A58DF-11EC-97FE@webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.43.170] Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:17:12 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1351703832; bh=k9T/qIW23LRvdU/z6FhyS88Q9112uhg7NGuYU5too9Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tOxjcry5FE46Xzd8GJGqh2P0P0mEeXe2FSi3hDRlidhKw4LRGoRYpgnV86cZNUOul oCFUPuhR1ODX+oRQo5PmO2Th67+13x4HTuORzrFiLGDon6dt7XyqomnE4GMNAywBpP z5IkQqYw9LeTHE47BNnrmOPWCH8uJX8jY4LVPG7A= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:358284800:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d50915d180722 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:17:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF85A2B35A58DF_11EC_21C2C_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" love your nails!.....i hope you know, though, your equipment was designed b= y SATAN! =20 ----------MB_8CF85A2B35A58DF_11EC_21C2C_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" love your nails!.....i hope you kno= w, though, your equipment was designed by SATAN!




----------MB_8CF85A2B35A58DF_11EC_21C2C_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 17:24:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A460618347D; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=V6o1DieMtq2Ww1i4aGRi8OEmF1cEuJWLqdVrbkEavUo=; b=jbeS7kxg9IgUV3/IIIfGtH4z5HSa3uOJ0OSpVwKkf71tSgruiS7T1jEbQ/1Su5pozH EiDWmuy80cgqHndCFdzNkXQdwUBQGR9cJaG+wSWwhZ+rWRcA0187vkeeYc6plzOQDM09 hn3PHy/4T8ti4TL2BD/RVlbqATSV4BX+dfXLv/6WHPgyglPH+g6ap6ct1btW/x9Z0lCK RSf2zthsHqYgDX0JZ/Nl27VvsW5KuJ379+6dq+OwTuATKTKsOpLPfPkHUbCvPMOVfaAg PWNgwzv2npfgI+6kEq7bryStDD166ia6r84pqMDJjSdnPtfBFVhyZ6YVbPczeqSIRngW Dv8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CF85A2B35A58DF-11EC-97FE@webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF85A2B35A58DF-11EC-97FE@webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:24:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another little demo From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe2f1679dd1c04cd5e2b2e Resent-Message-ID: <0_bBUC.A.kKD.46VkQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:24:08 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4efe2f1679dd1c04cd5e2b2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 says the person with an aol email address On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:17 AM, michael klobuchar wrote: > love your nails!.....i hope you know, though, your equipment was designed > by SATAN! > > > > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --e0cb4efe2f1679dd1c04cd5e2b2e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 says the person with an aol email address

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:17 AM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
love your nails!.....i hope you know, though, your equipment was designed by SATAN!







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--e0cb4efe2f1679dd1c04cd5e2b2e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 17:37:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89FF4183476; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=I7g+B+KQmuOFGiMpdODQyWs0sYkTgQIaLhcMwlhy5WI=; b=KcG7wewwYtyPaTCe7xWzBMAY2OAjptluqNgYOOlfF/0t6hL3lzkmZogRDLGhVrZQr3 DRbOfL5myrCa/HnHvcbpQjg39/cgNvpbU/X/r8MwaB1rgshhFLyZYgYs88mml9nTnQgk BCzHGhTnNT1XSafnoBRLnspu+L7eqobRS9oMCONefcZr2OhnZzpLvdOyFdvXdtmRfXyx fp4ONRP6gP/jFrQ4FGIXxINHi+uqkmuU32xlS61T+pnD+YJLkOPYAp2vHFXWyTR6uojR BRDTeHM3XyB9DcrMI3LHAjP8MXgGiDZS7tr633qxRdOLOgp0/XYdu+5lx3VHqvotYqz0 57cw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CF85A2B35A58DF-11EC-97FE@webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:31:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another little demo To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444e9d16392a004cd5e5a5e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:37:15 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0444e9d16392a004cd5e5a5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ouch. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > says the person with an aol email address > > > --f46d0444e9d16392a004cd5e5a5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ouch.=A0


On We= d, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
says the person with an aol email address






--f46d0444e9d16392a004cd5e5a5e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 18:03:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31260183476; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xH1JO7m4RnIyk+SUgHIQEKCNi6ns/ar7sS+P53VlIvE=; b=AHYBlvM0JfbPvwVHyul8kK2ftNyU7KTBeNIeBTcKbSP6l+6COafemUqEOAi5JtLgyZ D9GOkD3vfCuWbr3Cx6NhF2bApLxNqKlarQT76ygqunY+62D5Qy324lFzY5eKGpL9h2zl Uvxm7ssvZITjyrApRnJQ/DZOKg57SHUzv+2XcFM366dlJ6y7GEvRGyrfzc62pL7fpjF0 rKbbelTHcD5gXrHMg17AkUQnLSxmLEBnDXfpUZjogUkOhsGiw8nSCFizwtpZAExyzEZe dpv2+Sx78eWB6uUnWfuQA6LdBtn7UnbGfOughkZd+L5MzH9tYEvbrnVJCquVrlJ+Rwdg UpuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:03:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:03:10 +0000 (UTC) > Working with Mobius can be done in the same method as in the Deadmau5 > example. Set up some super wild scripts, Feel like sharing any super wild scripts with a Mobius novice? Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 18:24:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45CB1183477; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=F7jMtvyMo987tsZT6Z/EcK4RCKNlnchm6dMc95ekP04=; b=Qj3E70E3gPcliNSk952zS91jasxkkgC6tl/w5RPx1GAwJ2/QgBb6kg3Oii/FGbWCkE pwEG+YA3+FViP6MWhgrBpi6/URPu4lsT9S9cES7W8z2TN79LML2739YVa1qasqTDc4Sd XY3Zc0BLG82Lkxr8tSPn63rUSnEQWmJEPRTSEkWJNWt47zNKVJKbcTIypLcqmDjODYc9 SE0dT3BmWLRXpiwJZjfGTG+M4blNJLTTzEEoFhlVW3Uu0ruuGjydxpqhGVkPkSCAQR0G wl6HDLHMCfXXKlk81FgmA8PvAh7IR5XoqZow5ftJskFmEUSGsqH37BuqjEovZz2kcA0K v7WA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:24:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444814574f0a204cd5f02a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:24:15 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0444814574f0a204cd5f02a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I secon kevin as im below novice when it comes to scripting On Oct 31, 2012 11:03 AM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" wrote: > > Working with Mobius can be done in the same method as in the Deadmau5 > > example. Set up some super wild scripts, > > Feel like sharing any super wild scripts with a Mobius novice? > > Kevin > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > --f46d0444814574f0a204cd5f02a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I secon kevin as im below novice when it comes to scripting

On Oct 31, 2012 11:03 AM, "Kevin Cheli-Cola= ndo" <billowhead@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
> Working with Mobius can be done in the same method as in the Deadmau5<= br> > example. Set up some super wild scripts,

Feel like sharing any super wild scripts with a Mobius novice?

Kevin
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form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

--f46d0444814574f0a204cd5f02a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 18:24:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4B9518347C; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6OgVxRuAHLRqwL2bXr4wgLBHdTu3bd9DilyuFCO9Nx0=; b=Rr/qfiJZhXbFw7KyNRQGLdX5cv9WwubzmYPISFduFLyQ/CxIraEZIIJB47aYnAylAT QlFp8s+zwusw692bJS+BDKpvN4XhBqCyaJ9S7yrRyc2J1O0yH3VBWBySJav24B9CrqbG KeUduV5fN/qX8ZUD2AAadnPLK/RonQ5tusPRYRzK6CHgQk5WfkDABqogynyR1PVRPPsm GMOh/J2NXouJ1Sv7DvR5TiaZVq5Yt6cNMj6nOmtNZa8oJZXjYGdg4/4/exzzo2Osi/X9 IyygT/EWXmnB81FGXaRyJwEf31BcTBY4+U+3ouxc2Djn+Hp0t3TXtUA4kjKbi+ZI02uV hhgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:24:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:24:42 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >> Working with Mobius can be done in the same method as in the Deadmau5 >> example. Set up some super wild scripts, > > Feel like sharing any super wild scripts with a Mobius novice? Simple "substitute stuff" takes you far, especially combined with a hands-on control of Secondary Feedback. Another fun scripting approach is to throw the looper into Overdub Mode and have alternating Speed Step values happening at certain points. When you run the script the background loop will flicker and stutter and from the next loop round your playing (overdubbed during he script run) will flicker and stutter in the same way but at reversed pitches. Experiment with different intervals at different poins in the loop (or "in the cycle" if you prefer to work in that scale). And remember that a loop spinns faster at higher pitch and vice versa; so if you need the loop to stay the same length after such a script run you have to experiment a bit to find a balance between upwards and downwards intervals (many upwards jumps can be neutralized by one downwards interval with either a longer duration or down to a deeper pitch). Just two ideas. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 18:32:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51B80183477; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2cuN1sya2IcaNmXnF3i5ivN0/2E3Kju9RgjqAIt8NEU=; b=u6vS7et+5oI8xkrAHpsVCNa9YUl6LotXWqo7AZ0PV2sDcxRtqRmkvIApqoyGL59iUL J3/gZsWnnBnxrWxGMLw0sYaeS1KSOnSU1iA8wF1BGIRxqLkSIikM6rFgjxBynoPxutJH Y7V7EwuLo2bEOPShbvu+T4SIGHxQjpSLsI4dSL2S3Cnl8xLsBrl7D/VrENEZRutxqyTz YdsJjGOguUL4ADhGWKoLcaVSCqHidfm+4vmzp1DknJD4JcayDOs69SiTqrta1Tl/kK3A /1GEETEt/eoUkxIytg3G4pvPfgnZmf8J649u6IatomPfhUS4c298T4TnJiDttWYbS81R 3MLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:32:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:32:36 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:24 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > scripting Scripting "Magical spells and arcane lore" is to be found at http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 There was a problem with robot spam a while back forcing Jeff to have new forum members send an email and ask for a manual fix for membership. I don't know if this is still so. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 18:57:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6428C18347C; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6rlk04uHPadFutRjwXkPkv4p4+XbJXi/FSrmlMJ6pFQ=; b=PQAioKFScWIezZlSwbIJo8Eh7s5s+Q99c0oV5+UCKjf7Vze23e5GArrcaBsJMOC476 64r3jaYhT2xRgUrXUW/KBlzxppXhTwfQKae046D59IGcuwB2uAGlspb/B8irdioVv46Z hqLmHbQM0LMuqL7JFW5aUAu2BmdeE9zg/0D1+L4Uy5cRDzwqG4X80tnNZauUTMunGM0o MPjNDkpuWAIgerfKaQzvM7tccTPh0iJGJ2Af3tAp4t6MQkW5EJNP/jBtjdWewnO0V4oM MBmk4DluxDiDFWcu0Q/WEQwAyT1mUS7Hdlwvxsg4YkHdQQG5Bfn26ULZnJ1r7WRNzIHs UMGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:57:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per, I now promise I will go and woodshed before I ask any more silly Mobius questions. Kevin On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:24 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >> scripting > > Scripting "Magical spells and arcane lore" is to be found at > http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 > > There was a problem with robot spam a while back forcing Jeff to have > new forum members send an email and ask for a manual fix for > membership. I don't know if this is still so. > > Per > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 19:09:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40B8C183477; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: LOOPERS-DELIGHT@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=dhfDC0uNC1JjzGBi48r+SuB4L5ey9RCPww0x4lH8O8s=; b=WpoV5kNxzBhsDCBkzT/MhQULNDQj0KFt80B1p3MHQBmMnrguQxwXxze58xuTrMBN3a VquMQiPZCAHbQRhoJlsddVvV1YJYshA6wukLwsa/UOaZvD4CfrlDRWExYXyHL6YXFKQO YPrlrDnoV5N4Zt+Q/G2v4yJTzNEKr4/OyM6qBc4nZIBIjIAC+VwYlvrL6C2AdUTl0Bbg Vx7Psr6hCt6tcWIQn4CduSDCvKRgd54K8rpsLcU7e9tTqOxLwK/pmpEdhJUtPeegzijF lisWOnCUh3DtWntXkR4z1vHigzkaClwjKvLZ6jysoOmFCB4e/zBuyJdqIRbyCzd7L6w+ tz9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20060277.1351498280981.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20060277.1351498280981.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fb9c6473ac304cd5fa51e Resent-Message-ID: <4IXSSC.A.NsE.6dXkQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:09:46 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54fb9c6473ac304cd5fa51e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Neville was so into the entire festival. I fielded so many questions when I was setting up, and I'm glad he had a great time! On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:11 AM, wrote: > aww Tim -nice that you could stand it! I hardly hear any niceties about > the music I do. it is a labor of love-and when people come along like you, > my heart soars like an eagle. so, I will keep on keeping on-just for folks > like you that "getitt"(or-don't get it and just try to be nice) which is > not a bad thing. > it was nice meeting you too. > Rockkonn yall > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Tim Mungenast > >Sent: Oct 28, 2012 6:56 PM > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, stanitarium@earthlink.net > >Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 > > > >That is a great story, and Stan, it was a joy to meet you, and to hear > (and FEEL) the all-over sonic massage that was your performance. It was one > of the high points of Y2K12, an event which I will count as one of my > life's peak experiences thus far. (Thanks again to Rick and to everybody > involved.) > > > >Tim Mungenast > >Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast > >Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast > > > > > >--- On Sat, 10/27/12, stanitarium@earthlink.net < > stanitarium@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > >> From: stanitarium@earthlink.net > >> Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 5:19 PM > >> I am way humble > >> thank you Rick for that story...you just never know. > >> > >> http://stanosaur.com/ > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> >From: Rick Walker > >> >Sent: Oct 27, 2012 1:25 PM > >> >To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > >> >Subject: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 > >> > > >> >One of our volunteers, Todd Kramer, brought > >> his > >> >son, Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival. > >> > > >> >While Todd graciously did the door, Neville had > >> his eyes glued to the > >> >stage. > >> >He saw many performances (as well as with his dad when > >> he wasn't working). > >> > > >> >Maha told me that he went to his school right afterwards > >> and beatboxed > >> >for the kids and then taught them how to do > >> it. He also taught them > >> >about live looping, > >> >which they didn't know about. > >> > > >> >He also said that one of his favorite artists was Stan > >> Card (aka > >> >Stanosaur) who only > >> >used high volume feedback to create his looping > >> performance. > >> > > >> >Afterwards, Neville went home and put microphones > >> into different drums, > >> >turned up > >> >the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the > >> feedback as he > >> >looped the > >> >results live. All on his own. > >> > > >> >Neville is 9 years old! > >> > > >> >All the hard work we did for the festival this year was > >> worth it if only > >> >for this story of > >> >creativity, growth and excitement. This > >> story is so inspiring to me. > >> >I'm going to > >> >go out and put mics in my drum and create some feedback > >> today. > >> > > >> >Rick Walker > >> > > >> > >> > > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --bcaec54fb9c6473ac304cd5fa51e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neville was so into the entire festival. I fielded so many questions when I= was setting up, and I'm glad he had a great time!


On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:11 AM, = <stanitarium@earthlink.net> wrote:
aww Tim -nice that you could stand it! I har= dly hear any niceties about the music I do. it is a labor of love-and when = people come along like you, my heart soars like an eagle. so, I will keep o= n keeping on-just for folks like you that "getitt"(or-don't g= et it and just try to be nice) which is not a bad thing.
it was nice meeting you too.
Rockkonn yall


-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Mungenast <tmung= enast@verizon.net>
>Sent: Oct 28, 2012 6:56 PM
>To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com, s= tanitarium@earthlink.net
>Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12
>
>That is a great story, and Stan, it was a joy to meet you, and to hear = (and FEEL) the all-over sonic massage that was your performance. It was one= of the high points of Y2K12, an event which I will count as one of my life= 's peak experiences thus far. (Thanks again to Rick and to everybody in= volved.)
>
>Tim Mungenast
>Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
>Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast
>
>
>--- On Sat, 10/27/12, stan= itarium@earthlink.net <= stanitarium@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> From: stanitarium@ear= thlink.net <stanitarium= @earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12
>> To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 5:19 PM
>> I am way humble
>> thank you Rick for that story...you just never know.
>>
>> http://stanosa= ur.com/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Rick Walker <l= ooppool@cruzio.com>
>> >Sent: Oct 27, 2012 1:25 PM
>> >To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /a>>
>> >Subject: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12
>> >
>> >One of our volunteers,=A0 Todd Kramer,=A0 brought
>> his
>> >son,=A0 Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival.
>> >
>> >While Todd graciously did the door,=A0 Neville had
>> his eyes glued to the
>> >stage.
>> >He saw many performances (as well as with his dad when
>> he wasn't working).
>> >
>> >Maha told me that he went to his school right afterwards
>> and beatboxed
>> >for the kids and then taught them how to do
>> it.=A0=A0=A0He also taught them
>> >about live looping,
>> >which they didn't know about.
>> >
>> >He also said that one of his favorite artists was Stan
>> Card (aka
>> >Stanosaur) who only
>> >used high volume feedback to create his looping
>> performance.
>> >
>> >Afterwards,=A0 Neville went home and put microphones
>> into different drums,
>> >turned up
>> >the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the
>> feedback as he
>> >looped the
>> >results live.=A0 All on his own.
>> >
>> >Neville is 9 years old!
>> >
>> >All the hard work we did for the festival this year was
>> worth it if only
>> >for this story of
>> >creativity, growth and excitement.=A0=A0=A0This
>> story is so inspiring to me.=A0=A0=A0
>> >I'm going to
>> >go out and put mics in my drum and create some feedback
>> today.
>> >
>> >Rick Walker
>> >
>>
>>




--
= Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376
--bcaec54fb9c6473ac304cd5fa51e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 19:52:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 939A7183479; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OK8qsMODTJ1MMDuQWTeDB9XqS0EbGkfU30qO5MEWG9g=; b=rwZpwc2F6uG2RYytCXcol7kxVjpyLMcjpEK/OzLVzbpLHeptTA8AhQta7K6PlgiJyk wGwImgO20zbdjQ0s/XsyZ+wed75DQGboZnQJ0kvV6U+DmMqtoW0Dsz7MLcLdw297VHM3 +AJHWd5xQj1AWxYGw7K8+f4qkMZueqblSmJZmsQtB1vEM8b13uLj6HtGCDgtk5K2vYJN 2HXriOrYYqMPoOmwes5K3b8mwin8mPPcXMxXvvgqSoZgXJynY068VopGh8sltR1Y0DYg qdn9wqQhu40mzRSOz7tm2+YiQL+PkLzgpnlT5TzMi8xSfa43RTL4fFAtkHCeaTF8/8YO f/9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:52:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:52:09 +0000 (UTC) This little experiment I did with Mobius a while ago may also be of interest: http://goo.gl/X5aXJ Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 21:36:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18979183477; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-31_03:2012-10-31,2012-10-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210310253 Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:36:04 -0700 Message-id: <34199D6B-FB75-4F98-926F-3571DCA1DB5F@mac.com> References: <508C4332.9060904@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:36:06 +0000 (UTC) I love this story! Educate and Inspire loopers! What a great community. Daniel On Oct 27, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > One of our volunteers, Todd Kramer, brought his > son, Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival. > > While Todd graciously did the door, Neville had his eyes glued to the stage. > He saw many performances (as well as with his dad when he wasn't working). > > Maha told me that he went to his school right afterwards and beatboxed > for the kids and then taught them how to do it. He also taught them about live looping, > which they didn't know about. > > He also said that one of his favorite artists was Stan Card (aka Stanosaur) who only > used high volume feedback to create his looping performance. > > Afterwards, Neville went home and put microphones into different drums, turned up > the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the feedback as he looped the > results live. All on his own. > > Neville is 9 years old! > > All the hard work we did for the festival this year was worth it if only for this story of > creativity, growth and excitement. This story is so inspiring to me. I'm going to > go out and put mics in my drum and create some feedback today. > > Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 21:55:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D129183479; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:55:13 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20121031215513.198460@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20121030121913.172830@gmx.net> <20121030144859.76170@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Ableton Push To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/tr+831MftU6p+G8GV3ekz333hHSVqiH07MuKkaW FsUhdFja5WWXPDlHe455Zq2snsTlTxVhBfWw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: FvvjcOIseSEqMsh4kHUhtqZ+IGRvb8BT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi Todd well, you're in a way right: You could indeed assign Ableton Undo to a physical button. Still, this doesn't give you full control over a live looping setup... Let's still hope for an API implementation! Buzap