From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 00:27:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F01901834A3; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ljT2arJAi7srlFWNRcUYfQJ62AZmZ5gazKLjE5TrRf4=; b=pVvsMecGLskZhImuRXRBJcVB0nYoAsy5Gg40nS2Ur4fVGq1L8N5eHay7twEsYZdOnr CgOWgT8j/Ih5iZ/rZ2dpt/d7XQONt8FLcNMIEiEYJvvfntGPku4a7Wz4O4SSABP7nfaE awgBIxtgZAq+cHmYwpa5w0i9IDWsJ/6ie6g58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Vr+0tb86w0X88qfpl4IBavEEZrulyw0XBriM6yRsrdRZ/LYkO3GqX9f57sVBh2uBnU 4tN3lnW35D7jgySSQsEjOr/O/Ij1ZIJKeuX1R5ANhiY45wcWaN+ujXyeuF1bY9S8nqHq siptcRF2h/RyyJOzjbdvlLFLRX+gEH/lwS85w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:27:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: livelooping articles for a guitar magazine From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <0ZR4cD.A.WKE.-dY5NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1559 Lines: 37 Assuming they want a decent amount of room for each article, I can imagine 3 nice deep articles: 1) A summary, definition and history of live looping, including how it's different than using pre-recorded loops. Includes a history starting with Reich/Terry Riley (or even earlier tape music stuff, though I don't know of any that are *live* looping) up to modern stuff, perhaps including something about how the transition from tape to digital affected its use. btw, Reich's "It's Gonna Rain" only uses pre-recorded loops, but in "Come Out", he may have dubbed the live output onto other tape machines during the performance. (I'm not sure). 2) A survey of the current crop of looping offerings (hardware and software), including a description of the most common features. Perhaps this could include a chart of the most common ones and what they offer. 3) A "getting started" article, which surveys the different techniques and uses. For example, contrasting: --folks who record backing tracks and solo over them --folks who are in "constant assembly" mode (where the loop itself is the main focus, and the musician is continuously feeding it.) --folks who build a pop song-structure by carefully adding and subtracting live-recorded loops to make verses, choruses, bridges and transitions. --folks whose style involves heavily manipulating the loops themselves rather than simply letting them cycle. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 03:26:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 383AB1834A1; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 03:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dzle/EQyi0L6N1E5AFIdLu8UgHBXB/ubi4xJ7M9CpW8=; b=ORSMWUr7BGX/swZ8fy2mRgJkEfHc2zkzaoBFpHQS5aeiX5jWlbQmVh0Nqm5CSUcehE nCct1BvxCmtEr0iZo0hhtQRrwpvvEHbJhFT/pehG2OueP5fhgwsbhZiE2moaqARAlDRO BR0TK+1WqVdDz9eQwBArknSNa1gTAwkKwRAac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t2nLcxoabsP2XDlMIolmFVrPadkDm2MoUZ+e6jV7sTOjVgk65QNQ9guf0Pny+SqDYj lz2MZD52anXwmPeNBK8XgCivgHH/aYRui2JpvovWFT2gnhAyqFwJCaoY+6Ct5+wVdcwD U2p6HG5Gj62vgCjr1gMQgUXW98vDj49MwPev8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 23:26:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Some live music from David Torn.. with loops From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a9b5a72d9504a49e1632 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 03:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1706 Lines: 51 --bcaec548a9b5a72d9504a49e1632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Listening now, the 'voice' rings true. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > http://soundcloud.com/jayapala > > Enjoy - I did.... > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec548a9b5a72d9504a49e1632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Listening now, the 'voice' rings true.

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--bcaec548a9b5a72d9504a49e1632-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 05:17:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E98EB1834A1; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 05:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 05:17:23 UTC X-CMAE-OUT-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3rQva+J7++LjQw7SXZFeHe6ZMB6n8FjzdZCFDDrSCPo= c=1 sm=1 a=8ns3dPAIoBUA:10 a=sbs2_ZMNFVcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=LzBHQGveyX2oKLRE5-wA:9 a=7l_D1e1yK1lT-ZCxCNUA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=bIpfiZevh8TQWWqcgQ8Vuw==:117 X-CMAE-OUT-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <20110601010915.22015@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> X-HTTP-Received: from bryanhelm.4000003588 [8.24.61.123] by web001.nyc1.bluetie.com (BlueTie WebMail ); Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:09:15 -0400 X-Mailer: BlueTie MTA Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:09:15 -0400 Cc: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Bryan Helm" Importance: normal Subject: I will be out of the office starting 05/31/2011 and will not return until 06/18/2011. Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 05:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1107 Lines: 20 Clearly this business has got to stop. I can't afford to go to LA and put hi= m down so I need to find out where he goes on these "out of the office exper= iences" to see if it puts him closer for my dastardly purposes. Maybe he jus= t stays at home and reads goofy emails people post in his absence, or worse = yet spends endless days listening to decaying micro-tonal loops he has const= ructed from voice messages left for him while he's out of the office.... out= there.........somewhere......it's ruddy mysterious if you ask me....which y= ou didn't....so there. = = bryan helm = = = suspicious lurker = = = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 09:50:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADAC418349C; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 09:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9gFLG84Rt0VC9vOvIvJX6mJyHWoM6e4hIswCuygu824=; b=gA18SXNZmvHezQTU20rYa/O3W44orVrZJnDFKAaJyE/Bc3FL22/iqfoa6plHd4BQbW oZdSJ6ZR9qC9Vpzy/7zzCwIYuiUws/rLd1TOsnOg1xJ5Ruso8/aLnfpv2As5sQ6wkl7H CdJ/rPNCV1mc7N9N7X2Xd04HrTIZ5CZOyT+Wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JcKDu/p1A8gTPxQlFKv3Ns8fcZuDRTMKTIeEqueFwI9FBDQiLDeOBfPpvcNATm4KU3 Ar4ZeVmrgcYNlIq3y7T4t+M5Ojsk5c33OQ7ScqCFZbt8MBi5x9E4ze1wq2I3BgqEPufM iGXkKWTsbBH4xsUSH16QvP8p3Po8wPkpnvJwU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:50:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Some live music from David Torn.. with loops From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 09:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 563 Lines: 25 g'dammit that's great! :-)) Per On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > Listening now, the 'voice' rings true. > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Anders Bergdahl > wrote: >> >> http://soundcloud.com/jayapala >> Enjoy - I did.... > > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=C3=B6rn.=C2=A0 Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 11:54:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E03E81834A0; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a09939a0-42f5-46fd-89ec-a9d3275704de_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Some live music from David Torn.. with loops Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:54:37 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2011 11:54:37.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEA35A90:01CC2052] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2840 Lines: 83 --_a09939a0-42f5-46fd-89ec-a9d3275704de_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a thread on TGP were dt explains his rig as well:http://thegearpag= e.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D903313 > Date: Wed=2C 1 Jun 2011 11:50:37 +0200 > Subject: Re: Some live music from David Torn.. with loops > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > g'dammit that's great! :-)) >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 > On Wed=2C Jun 1=2C 2011 at 5:26 AM=2C Jim Goodin wrote: > > Listening now=2C the 'voice' rings true. > > > > On Tue=2C May 31=2C 2011 at 5:41 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl > > wrote: > >> > >> http://soundcloud.com/jayapala > >> Enjoy - I did.... > > > > > > -- > > From Brooklyn To Glindran=2C a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goo= din & > > Peter Th=F6rn. 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= --_a09939a0-42f5-46fd-89ec-a9d3275704de_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 15:51:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 143061834A3; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 08:51:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 335 Lines: 6 During the last round of screamingly funny jokes at Peters expense, I actually got a nice e-mail from him off list thanking me for pointing him in the right direction regarding his Line 6 echo pro. he also confided in me that he doesn't use a computer at home!!!! Wow...imagine that...for that alone he is a hero to me. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 15:55:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AF571834A1; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-01_08:2011-06-01,2011-06-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106010072 Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:54:58 -0700 Message-id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 486 Lines: 8 I found him to be a really gracious guy. Deserving a PL is OOO T-shirt, at the very least. :) Daniel On Jun 1, 2011, at 8:51 AM, William Walker wrote: > During the last round of screamingly funny jokes at Peters expense, I actually got a nice e-mail from him off list thanking me for pointing him in the right direction regarding his Line 6 echo pro. he also confided in me that he doesn't use a computer at home!!!! Wow...imagine that...for that alone he is a hero to me. > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 16:07:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E3EB1834A1; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: OT which sample player vst Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:07:11 +0200 Message-ID: <4F0D01C91E5F40AE9975B5C3B1546CC0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 thread-index: AcwgdeYQ0ZCJfj2AQsiO9YXdVE7ocg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 284 Lines: 6 I use Os's wonderful XFadelooper for realtime sampling orgies, but I would also like to have a simple sample player (for Bidule/Windows) that I can simply load with multisamples. Probably I should buy a copy of Kontakt ... but maybe are there alternatives? what do you use? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 16:12:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E04891834A1; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ULvk07jP084JU+q1rtnFr6lbjZT9bimsCRfUyU/Mx7M=; b=fmx7mLfZr9mrIfW/JytKAB7W3Rd0oHNrzqJ4+eXpBu8NP2lFRPMJeNcKshON9YLFto 571mRo8uwSS9tr7FPvRyN3HD9JU8EfyhVAoQlGy/5940q5EyOJQSaNK8QcsC6OVFPOYU gmWj5FxqfG3IX25MSApfOskiZfiHUQVy3Fln4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xHhfld0XN7pEVgsRqwWd3lk4xqqv6jtDQ2AhTYxd0LAwk5DkZ6gDR5vrDL2XT7TVP6 QV7pdthBe94Tbjv4RvH3zBSNK30OaFZySVcopm0/60MmhEd3b1lw8rLC5EaR8+kS0Q1o 3sl6TYb1Ud9DliboNq/qLyrV+C40znGVxs6XQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4F0D01C91E5F40AE9975B5C3B1546CC0@mpeserver> References: <4F0D01C91E5F40AE9975B5C3B1546CC0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:12:36 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2zbtdUPpxi9YjL-WyTD-lDDDc_o Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT which sample player vst From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1ohV5D.A.oyG.2Tm5NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 535 Lines: 25 VSamp? or maybe that's still OS X only. os. On 1 June 2011 17:07, Michael Peters wrote: > I use Os's wonderful XFadelooper for realtime sampling orgies, but I would > also like to have a simple sample player (for Bidule/Windows) that I can > simply load with multisamples. Probably I should buy a copy of Kontakt ... > but maybe are there alternatives? what do you use? > > -Michael > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 17:36:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D73C18349F; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 396295.45772.bm@omp1043.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1306949791; bh=srtUqkwFn13RZwRf/khnzHzBni4TGPa+fAQZUlGO6F8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hIyVpArPS/ugJeCXczqaQa1L1PGFAIBHNI81igztKGwWczjcigZaDKWfxerW9+9tsy3E53GtJXjJmscNJGUSzXagnGKcOMFDuNmKqj33z2Kt3oa9cT9Yqub32NBq1kmkV0UvUKTQN3IOAIZQ/p1mYJybA8OowTKl2MoV0HJ3YKY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2HVgbviSmgagXla+ZRnfW/6I2O4zlZSe6dVddR8girIEQaRXOM1w4F0grquO1/b8nM532p3sXZkGrtNAxYuzeG5CLDnymjVHBBiRkyrhkV+FB1cJPTE+aaB40vJ54l+gBmVfihibAsxZgY3YvH1rrDAf3cBy2i5NijU4Zz79ZrM=; Message-ID: <804241.76820.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JRpn6hwVM1mIKnOIngcuE4VcNqL9AD0.IiO6MOmympUbuzQ 31jH8qoCrjKdM3SAG4tgIPf1RcMpgu20gOdbvSRYiNLe.g3Rtknl6nVdCo2K FfKiJgMBi39MGuAiVtW7VZBihcQ4Gh3GRH_RQuszT8oBECRO9Ll.NuuHmiXP GC6Ioy3Z16K3Vgopy7ucqC2PAbcPXNCLhKdsZImezSsBj1TgONkIoMkR3hVH TC7l8ofEDUbLABzPDkw3XjXMEVn71pATawjFvGI7GtrAFV8wI1DydF4a.Fq1 6LtnPHluH.Uf.xGK0JprunDz5mZ9AMuS_B4JxpbP6UkxbQU9luhLtikLENOT obEbKSwlp_DEKTlElZ4FWjzL.Aa3HAyf9NVs09nDB0d8sbfVi1lf_gEp0AGt EdnV7DBAQk_wp4Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.303096 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 10:36:31 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4DE4A4CE.3030909@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-696348034-1306949791=:76820" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5274 Lines: 117 --0-696348034-1306949791=:76820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Coming in a bit late here but... =A0 I think a distinction between Bill Frisell and somebody like David Torn or = Tony Conrad is that Bill usually uses his=A0looper to make an=A0interesting= intro/outro=A0or=A0create a background wash, not try to support an entire = song as some of the more experimental users do. =A0 Does that diminish Bill's contribution to looping?=A0 No, it's just a diffe= rent application, just like Rothko and Picasso both used paint brushes.=A0 = Bill's still using it in a very creative way, though=A0- love the way he cy= cles through the double & reverse function of a DL4 to make=A0a nice 'shimm= er'... =A0 It's been a while since I listened to Smash & Scatteration (the recording h= e did with Vernon Reid) but=A0I recall that as being relatively gear orient= ed.=A0 Also, very nice looping on Ghost Town - but being a solo disc, it's = hard to separate looping from individual tracks. =A0 =A0 ted h. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --- On Tue, 5/31/11, andy butler wrote: From: andy butler Subject: Re: livelooping article for guitar magazine... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 1:20 AM Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Not saying that he isn't, I'm not that familiar with his work. >> ...but to make a point surely it's desirable to list his >> innovations. >>=20 >> andy=20 > That is a hard one to put into words,=A0 Andy. > I think he is more innovative, musically speaking than technologically sp= eaking. ...but I think that to be innovative as a looper it's actually necessary to= invent a loop technique, or to apply that technique in a new way, or to br= ing those results that others have achieved into a different musical context. Not the same as being innovative *and* a looper. andy --0-696348034-1306949791=:76820 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Coming in a bit late here but...
 
I think a distinction between Bill Frisell and somebody like David Tor= n or Tony Conrad is that Bill usually uses his looper to make an = interesting intro/outro or create a background wash, not try to s= upport an entire song as some of the more experimental users do.
 
Does that diminish Bill's contribution to looping?  No, it's just= a different application, just like Rothko and Picasso both used paint brus= hes.  Bill's still using it in a very creative way, though - love= the way he cycles through the double & reverse function of a DL4 to ma= ke a nice 'shimmer'...
 
It's been a while since I listened to Smash & Scatteration (the re= cording he did with Vernon Reid) but I recall that as being relatively= gear oriented.  Also, very nice looping on Ghost Town - but being a s= olo disc, it's hard to separate looping from individual tracks.
 
 
ted h.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. S= omethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of so= ng people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It= ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with = believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--- On Tue, = 5/31/11, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk><= BR>Subject: Re: livelooping article for guitar magazine...
To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 1:20 AM
<= BR>
Rick Walker wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy= butler wrote:
>> Not saying that he isn't, I'm not that familiar = with his work.
>> ...but to make a point surely it's desirable to = list his
>> innovations.
>>
>> andy
> Th= at is a hard one to put into words,  Andy.
> I think he is more = innovative, musically speaking than technologically speaking.

...but= I think that to be innovative as a looper it's actually necessary to inven= t a loop technique, or to apply that technique in a new way, or to bring th= ose
results that others have achieved into a different musical context.<= BR>
Not the same as being innovative *and* a looper.

andy

=





--0-696348034-1306949791=:76820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 18:18:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA2DB1834A0; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q4NUj+J4ExkpOpxHAZDL6bdLgLKE8QmxUgFO9hy1wnY=; b=jnH3xJf9vrbp2HFfUkhJgNz0Fd2whtKaSUDJ6jApq9MH/EodyskQg1161YZPUtT/dE p7IVYretq9RW4PLLe4dgJePthLX29p1ENFwbPCM1JY+KpCzIvbQUtZoNHN17237qIiYd axpcYY3jhfI0OoFPZxsEZQHLsaYACbOKcH4t0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CP5xWVlrEX29nweNhxlEn0Kr2lXMlJG+qrrE5mkJ4o1mUKQoJUAk1oIkjARaKUpsW7 ZCz2+IBx2rtoQ+XuZR888LEcIOoaTjXzbIoo1O7+z+6AOoUh7nUHr5ZkP/CfQgQsbTxt Y/uNG8eFo7t+iHi8nQ3tvLWGutRww/fRcqWck= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4F0D01C91E5F40AE9975B5C3B1546CC0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:18:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT which sample player vst From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd25d4283d36504a4aa8b89 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2355 Lines: 84 --000e0cd25d4283d36504a4aa8b89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 kontakt is worth the money. - jim On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Os wrote: > VSamp? > > or maybe that's still OS X only. > > > os. > > > On 1 June 2011 17:07, Michael Peters wrote: > > I use Os's wonderful XFadelooper for realtime sampling orgies, but I > would > > also like to have a simple sample player (for Bidule/Windows) that I can > > simply load with multisamples. Probably I should buy a copy of Kontakt > ... > > but maybe are there alternatives? what do you use? > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > --000e0cd25d4283d36504a4aa8b89 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kontakt is worth the money.=A0

- jim

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
VSamp?

or maybe that's still OS X only.


os.


On 1 June 2011 17:07, Michael Peters <m= p@mpeters.de> wrote:
> I use Os's wonderful XFadelooper for realtime sampling orgies, but= I would
> also like to have a simple sample player (for Bidule/Windows) that I c= an
> simply load with multisamples. Probably I should buy a copy of Kontakt= ...
> but maybe are there alternatives? what do you use?
>
> -Michael
>
>



--
os@collective.co.uk
http://twit= ter.com/expertsleepers
http://www.da= rkroomtheband.net/
http://www.= expert-sleepers.co.uk/


--000e0cd25d4283d36504a4aa8b89-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 18:23:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A4E81834A1; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=mstklru2XW6utRfkprL6dKkEnUj33nvc3Wd04j9BS2w=; b=g5wTDbXpsceILd11dd7ftuQtlx6FCoNyXw5JCM0yoEmKVJukDRgSXpm6QEOH81nIqr xrG5vgR8hTnq+FPRxFFYgzdQ2IZyMU2eXB3Lm7J4UYGyk2kg3Hxu9dFgujchtlDpXc5n kLwnikXStt+6Wkq8LtJtgtv1Od7fF0WE9GvVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=J/1unQODxxT/EoR/OnnCyxUl64xFNycV/MmQSKvGVStb28Db+TcbM1JX7szbC4giSj iSUVXdbIC4zm7xgbvSEsxPjfmmIsYJMLPCZ1BLXbFbzvBLcODEdM6N5e8el1NQ7vCGQE HDHCF0nk89bvj7epHC/VwEkgk7YYQdWvW6vRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:23:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Six-string Electric Cello Looping Album From: Wytold Music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54866e29ac23404a4aa9dd7 Resent-Message-ID: <1cpEI.A.c5.bOo5NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2205 Lines: 56 --bcaec54866e29ac23404a4aa9dd7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi everyone, I'm still pretty new to the list but I'd like to announce that I just came out with my first solo album, "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" (Fulvio is my six-string electric cello, Celeste is my acoustic cello). You can listen to it here . I perform on an RC-50, although I'm currently in the process of learning to expand to an FCB1010, Ableton, and Mobius. So let me thank you all in advance for your threads and discussions that are helping me learn! Thanks to Per for suggesting loopers delight group to me! Hopefully I'll get to meet many of you in person at the Y2K11 International LiveLooping Festival that Rick told me about (please keep me updated on that!). -- Wytold www.Wytold.com My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" --bcaec54866e29ac23404a4aa9dd7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,
=A0
I'm still pretty new to the list but I'd like to announce that= I just came out with my first solo album, "When Fulvio Finds Celeste&= quot; (Fulvio is my six-string electric cello, Celeste is my acoustic cello= ).=A0 You can listen to it here= .=A0
=A0
I perform=A0on an RC-50,=A0although I'm currently in the process o= f learning to expand to an FCB1010, Ableton, and Mobius.=A0 So let me thank= you all in advance for your threads and discussions that are helping me le= arn!
=A0
Thanks to Per for suggesting=A0loopers delight=A0group to me!=A0 Hopef= ully I'll get to meet many of you in person at the Y2K11 International = LiveLooping Festival that Rick told me about (please keep me updated on tha= t!).

--
Wytold
=A0

--bcaec54866e29ac23404a4aa9dd7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 18:34:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DA271834A0; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Krw8+3ncp1rZWlgX79ig0A)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-01_10:2011-06-01,2011-06-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106010106 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Six-string Electric Cello Looping Album Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:34:26 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <0F6C834C-B2A8-4473-8009-0AD15592FA82@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2772 Lines: 51 --Boundary_(ID_Krw8+3ncp1rZWlgX79ig0A) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Joyous opening track! I will enjoy discovering this recording. Thnx for sharing d On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Wytold Music wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm still pretty new to the list but I'd like to announce that I just came out with my first solo album, "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" (Fulvio is my six-string electric cello, Celeste is my acoustic cello). You can listen to it here. > > I perform on an RC-50, although I'm currently in the process of learning to expand to an FCB1010, Ableton, and Mobius. So let me thank you all in advance for your threads and discussions that are helping me learn! > > Thanks to Per for suggesting loopers delight group to me! Hopefully I'll get to meet many of you in person at the Y2K11 International LiveLooping Festival that Rick told me about (please keep me updated on that!). > > -- > Wytold > www.Wytold.com > My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" > > --Boundary_(ID_Krw8+3ncp1rZWlgX79ig0A) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Joyous opening track!   I will enjoy discovering this recording. 

Thnx for sharing
d


On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Wytold Music wrote:

Hi everyone,
 
I'm still pretty new to the list but I'd like to announce that I just came out with my first solo album, "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" (Fulvio is my six-string electric cello, Celeste is my acoustic cello).  You can listen to it here. 
 
I perform on an RC-50, although I'm currently in the process of learning to expand to an FCB1010, Ableton, and Mobius.  So let me thank you all in advance for your threads and discussions that are helping me learn!
 
Thanks to Per for suggesting loopers delight group to me!  Hopefully I'll get to meet many of you in person at the Y2K11 International LiveLooping Festival that Rick told me about (please keep me updated on that!).

--
Wytold
 


--Boundary_(ID_Krw8+3ncp1rZWlgX79ig0A)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 19:02:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACD8918349C; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OGkgdaDzcWqNEhMbsrFs/50HP7UcE5pcd+fcaY4CJts=; b=S0EfEELxPdKrDr6TO1TGfiarSmLrh4zpM00QebyAv0MWRC16x+QTEu+7ZUOE7PBuul ZQSVGTIfCO9PR7RNEA+Wii/Yg+coOGMGQ71IBKDsPpxvplEb0CLEytyStczZOx5/O9Hr Rr6TkUqGNE5EzYkbAFdy+M1xrlhkO4TUvejV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j8gz0tkwgcChyobuL+Alh0v3sBTMgFngrg8p59gCVKbXaokWEuMJ104tZ/BaYCvyO3 pdl9DXkS/1qetCZfME6Is59HEnxQ8QyfA3nKSsF/Co+ZL5RuQy2oPbNxs5HHTZ95T179 ecUqJaFzkb9Up0vSZ2juODOKfEdboeXxBupoY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0F6C834C-B2A8-4473-8009-0AD15592FA82@mac.com> References: <0F6C834C-B2A8-4473-8009-0AD15592FA82@mac.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 12:02:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Six-string Electric Cello Looping Album From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1339 Lines: 51 Very nice. Thanks, Kevin On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Daniel Thomas wrot= e: > Joyous opening track! =A0 I will enjoy discovering this recording. > Thnx for sharing > d > > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Wytold Music wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm still pretty new to the list but I'd like to announce that I just cam= e > out with my first solo album, "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" (Fulvio is my > six-string electric cello, Celeste is my acoustic cello).=A0 You can list= en to > it here. > > I perform=A0on an RC-50,=A0although I'm currently in the process of learn= ing to > expand to an FCB1010, Ableton, and Mobius.=A0 So let me thank you all in > advance for your threads and discussions that are helping me learn! > > Thanks to Per for suggesting=A0loopers delight=A0group to me!=A0 Hopefull= y I'll > get to meet many of you in person at the Y2K11 International LiveLooping > Festival that Rick told me about (please keep me updated on that!). > -- > Wytold > www.Wytold.com > My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 20:37:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8688C1834A1; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CMAE-OUT-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3rQva+J7++LjQw7SXZFeHe6ZMB6n8FjzdZCFDDrSCPo= c=1 sm=1 a=sbs2_ZMNFVcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nlvXuwnWewtZpTd7Jc4A:9 a=Njml6NW0KhteCRZmIwUA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=bIpfiZevh8TQWWqcgQ8Vuw==:117 X-CMAE-OUT-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <20110601163712.21621@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> X-HTTP-Received: from bryanhelm.4000003588 [8.24.61.123] by web001.nyc1.bluetie.com (BlueTie WebMail ); Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:37:12 -0400 X-Mailer: BlueTie MTA Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:37:12 -0400 Cc: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Bryan Helm" Importance: normal Subject: OT- An interesting book Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_8va2.A.1-C.4Lq5NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 508 Lines: 8 FYI Just finished reading "How To Wreck A Nice Beach- The Vocoder From WWII = to Hip-Hop-The Machine Speaks" by Dave Tompkins. Found it to be as informati= ve as it was entertaining with a cavalcade of unlikely characters,devices an= d places drawn together to relate the history of an unusual tool/instrument,= first in it's development and then use for both military and musical purpos= es. Perhaps right up the alley of a few folks on this list. bryan helm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 21:04:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07A781834A1; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Six-string Electric Cello Looping Album Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:04:06 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 151.201.15.81 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33708-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDEEB694059079-174C-42703@webmail-m137.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 34 Lines: 7 very nice!.....welcome! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 21:15:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5575118349E; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GqYq6wuvJaWQ5FoSvRzDLKiSt+NMSQNzpULqqavC2wM=; b=BSn5lLljEXzXA3TakRVyJgyqerNkoVvbKhJ1YPnUNT4dKKTvOvUzdxWjAeTQs3yVKu z/kvyK1Dz51GHKb0hRwnUn3DyM5YVeLmh9ngHtSk6r+NvSzAS/SBxLZs6gvbb6VevhY9 I3CK2ZptZyR4furohaY/+9pKMB/t+EIM7XfFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EpyKvo/ZpJtwUNjC3QysBeMU2IyJg14HFOuFSdtQjFe/Ip3dwX2IlmQvSFdZOxzL2t Yit+oCC6GJAm2iYhY93t1JhAs3bkOk82vNXG0o5Dsn09L2ByRkVcAh5xpd8xiSDIBaaR sRDqX0HeSYcFGHbArcSZx4GE+NMn7e2Zx39pc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110601163712.21621@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> References: <20110601163712.21621@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:15:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT- An interesting book From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee9e4b8d33104a4ad0408 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2480 Lines: 58 --bcaec54ee9e4b8d33104a4ad0408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow, sounds fascinating! Just looked up the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/How-Wreck-Nice-Beach-Vocoder/dp/1933633883/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306962872&sr=8-1 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Bryan Helm wrote: > FYI Just finished reading "How To Wreck A Nice Beach- The Vocoder From WWII > to Hip-Hop-The Machine Speaks" by Dave Tompkins. Found it to be as > informative as it was entertaining with a cavalcade of unlikely > characters,devices and places drawn together to relate the history of an > unusual tool/instrument, first in it's development and then use for both > military and musical purposes. Perhaps right up the alley of a few folks on > this list. > > bryan helm > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --bcaec54ee9e4b8d33104a4ad0408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, sounds fascinating!

Just looked up the amazon link:
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On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Bryan Helm <= span dir=3D"ltr"><bryanhelm@o= penrange.net> wrote:
FYI Just finished reading "How To Wreck A Nice Beach- The Vocoder From= WWII to Hip-Hop-The Machine Speaks" by Dave Tompkins. Found it to be = as informative as it was entertaining with a cavalcade of unlikely characte= rs,devices and places drawn together to relate the history of an unusual to= ol/instrument, first in it's development and then use for both military= and musical purposes. Perhaps right up the alley of a few folks on this li= st.

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Cool stuff Wytold! As a fan of the low bowed = strings ( I play contra-bass) I dig your sound/playing/concept.  how i= s the six string cello tuned? Sounds like you've two high strings, is that = right?

--- On Wed, 6/1/11, Wytold Music <wytoldmusic@gmail.= com> wrote:

From: Wytold Music &= lt;wytoldmusic@gmail.com>
Subject: Six-string Electric Cello Looping = Album
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, June 1= , 2011, 11:23 AM

Hi everyone,
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I'm still pretty new to the list but I'd like t= o announce that I just came out with my first solo album, "When Fulvio Find= s Celeste" (Fulvio is my six-string electric cello, Celeste is my acoustic = cello).  You can listen to it here. 
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I perform on an RC-50, although I'm currently in the= process of learning to expand to an FCB1010, Ableton, and Mobius.  So= let me thank you all in advance for your threads and discussions that are = helping me learn!
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Thanks to Per for sug= gesting loopers delight group to me!  Hopefully I'll get to = meet many of you in person at the Y2K11 International LiveLooping Festival = that Rick told me about (please keep me updated on that!).
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Wytold
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--0-1792677524-1306966054=:62268-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 23:00:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E53091834A0; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1306969230; bh=bYcNHbxrKruakIIowbGgI/T1bxAkXKfOmnoyDPIPJVI=; h=To:Subject:MIME-Version:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date; b=cPSSE1QJZs8NEraWPyqz00raB1YkQbB/ofwfOOH0RSk8n5ipMcm1Pj98R58OQKPmM d8zAl6xHPpyJFgcNLfvP0iR+btIvDYZgJ4A7CjGyyoMXLJ7AveUiUrOeLxOAlj8Pnd k6MKMgJAPCgnEQbhDTedhdlz5Gd+D/cmNszYAtDg= References: <804241.76820.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...) X-AOL-IP: 69.183.244.153 In-Reply-To: <804241.76820.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDEEC6D676785C_1F00_91EF4_webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33708-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDEEC6D6636D54-1F00-4E1BF@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.183.244.153] Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:00:29 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:456953984:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca4de6c48e0b4e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6953 Lines: 230 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CDEEC6D676785C_1F00_91EF4_webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Smash and Scatteration is awesome! Bill did lots of looping on that. Vernon= and Bill are a great team. I wish they would do something else together! PJ -----Original Message----- From: ditch wrestler To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:37 am Subject: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...= ) =20 Coming in a bit late here but... =20 I think a distinction between Bill Frisell and somebody like David Torn or = Tony Conrad is that Bill usually uses his looper to make an interesting int= ro/outro or create a background wash, not try to support an entire song as = some of the more experimental users do. =20 Does that diminish Bill's contribution to looping? No, it's just a differe= nt application, just like Rothko and Picasso both used paint brushes. Bill= 's still using it in a very creative way, though - love the way he cycles t= hrough the double & reverse function of a DL4 to make a nice 'shimmer'... =20 It's been a while since I listened to Smash & Scatteration (the recording h= e did with Vernon Reid) but I recall that as being relatively gear oriented= . Also, very nice looping on Ghost Town - but being a solo disc, it's hard= to separate looping from individual tracks. =20 =20 ted h. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --- On Tue, 5/31/11, andy butler wrote: From: andy butler Subject: Re: livelooping article for guitar magazine... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 1:20 AM Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Not saying that he isn't, I'm not that familiar with his work. >> ...but to make a point surely it's desirable to list his >> innovations. >>=20 >> andy=20 > That is a hard one to put into words, Andy. > I think he is more innovative, musically speaking than technologically sp= eaking. ...but I think that to be innovative as a looper it's actually necessary to= invent a loop technique, or to apply that technique in a new way, or to br= ing those results that others have achieved into a different musical context. Not the same as being innovative *and* a looper. andy =20 ----------MB_8CDEEC6D676785C_1F00_91EF4_webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Smash and Scatteration is a= wesome! Bill did lots of looping on that. Vernon and Bill are a great team.= I wish they would do something else together!

3D":-)"PJ



-----= Original Message-----
From: ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:37 am
Subject: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...= )

 
Coming in a bit late here but...
 
I think a distinction between Bill Frisell and somebody like David Tor= n or Tony Conrad is that Bill usually uses his looper to make an = interesting intro/outro or create a background wash, not try to s= upport an entire song as some of the more experimental users do.
 
Does that diminish Bill's contribution to looping?  No, it's just= a different application, just like Rothko and Picasso both used paint brus= hes.  Bill's still using it in a very creative way, though - love= the way he cycles through the double & reverse function of a DL4 to ma= ke a nice 'shimmer'...
 
It's been a while since I listened to Smash & Scatteration (the re= cording he did with Vernon Reid) but I recall that as being relatively= gear oriented.  Also, very nice looping on Ghost Town - but being a s= olo disc, it's hard to separate looping from individual tracks.
 
 
ted h.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--- On Tue, 5/31/11, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

From: andy butler <akbutler@ti= scali.co.uk>
Subject: Re: livelooping article for guitar magazine...
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
Received: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 1:20 AM

Rick Walker wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>> Not saying that he isn't, I'm not that familiar with his work.
>> ...but to make a point surely it's desirable to list his
>> innovations.
>>
>> andy
> That is a hard one to put into words,  Andy.
> I think he is more innovative, musically speaking than technologically= speaking.

...but I think that to be innovative as a looper it's actually necessary to= invent a loop technique, or to apply that technique in a new way, or to br= ing those
results that others have achieved into a different musical context.

Not the same as being innovative *and* a looper.

andy







 ----------MB_8CDEEC6D676785C_1F00_91EF4_webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 1 23:39:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 392C518349C; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OnLjtLwDibUU/r7IWnYZRQkHtVqMC8h2DuXxhWC+ccs=; b=N3XzToj6aoXLPYCLjjbBtS0g0NAPaDf3IzijR/fj8sxaCD0YTWIe3XnRXjnm7VCm3X lW3uMhviLKL1D00KG7onDX13HFjPWdcm/otMWykFSnE1t9f6C3U//gWL3RPrA1YX4jr9 bRo38NvE5/UdGkTo8r+JwJz0LqW2vaFA1A32Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JuskJaYFMDqyecjlga0DXo/RSj3On7uoQHBYSEY/aaCyl9kHLL0lQsL8jsjyfGo/zF aXhr9Uw2BAO6ysuh17aqNWAxSpLNCyAR+DuZLJSTvxI8RLqwNYvSXPWjq0MvZWoGaDj1 VoRF4MMkIEiGHDwAaVsKqwRNW23pZ/v3Wzusk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:39:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: GIBSON ECHOPLEX FOR SALE From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd331e650987d04a4af0912 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 7236 Lines: 127 --000e0cd331e650987d04a4af0912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I know I've been posting this a lot on here lately and I'm sure everyone who checks out this board have one, but I like to think there is either that one person who doesn't have it or someone hasn't seen it yet. I have a rare *Gibson Echoplex for sale*. This is the famous Digital Pro (EDP-1) Looper/Phrase Sampler. This is the most powerful looper (no longer being made), and it includes the foot controller along with the manual and power cord. The Gibson Echoplex can be used for guitarists, bassists, keyboardists, or any other electronic musican. Phenomenally powerful and endlessly versatile, the Gibson TGE-05 Echoplex Digital Pro Plus is a tool looking for an imagination to wield it. The convenient 19" rackmount unit brings together digital recording, sampling, and digital delay so that musicians of every type can utilize these powerful components in both studio and live applications. An amazing 16-bit/41.5kHz RAM recorder lets you playback and record simultaneously making ambient soundscapes, reversed loops, and rhythmic drones easy to create and shape. It might help to think of the Echoplex as a sequencer for audio instead of MIDI, with all the capabilities of a sampler and a delay effect that ranges far beyond any pedal available. A progressive undo feature allows you to overdub with confidence. You can add unlimited overdubs onto any loop you record. The Echoplex Digital Pro is designed by and for musicians. The intuitive and efficient controls on the rackmount unit and footpedal make it easy to use and settings are displayed through a multifunction LED. The switches on the optional EFC-7 foot control unit can also be custom configured, and play an integral part by allowing you to access all of the unit's main functions on the fly. Loops can be recorded, overdubbed, reversed, and deleted with your feet, in real time. The Echoplex is completely MIDI compatible. Performance controls send and receive MIDI; loops and sound files may be saved and loaded via MIDI; and tempos can be synced to MIDI clock. With 198 seconds of memory, 16-bit realtime digital loops, the capability to layer all 9 loops complete with overdubs, simultaneous playback and record, unlimited overdubs with progressive undos, and tap tempo controls, the Echoplex is peerless. Gibson TGE-05 Echoplex Digital Pro Plus Features: - 16-bit realtime digital loops - Layer up to 9 loops simultaneously - Playback and record simultaneously - 198 seconds of loop/delay time - Tap tempo input - CD quality recording - Overdubbing with progressive undos available - All functions accessible in real time with optional EFC-7 footpedal - MIDI compatible - Live reverse play function If you've ever wanted to *buy a Gibson Echoplex*, now is your chance. I have it listed at $700.00, but I am willing to work with the price, if you are that interested in it. I won't go lower than $550, though. I can take credit card, check, or moneybooker. Even though it says you can pay with PayPal, I can't do PayPal currently as I am settling a dispute with them. Please trust me. Willing to give my information if it makes you feel comfortable. -- Sincerely, Tim --000e0cd331e650987d04a4af0912 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I= know I've been posting this a lot on here lately and I'm sure ever= yone who checks out this board have one, but I like to think there is eithe= r that one person who doesn't have it or someone hasn't seen it yet= .

I have a rare=A0Gibson Echoplex for sale. This is the = famous Digital Pro (EDP-1) Looper/Phrase Sampler. This is the most powerful= looper (no longer being made), and it includes the foot controller along w= ith the manual and power cord. The Gibson Echoplex can be used for guitaris= ts, bassists, keyboardists, or any other electronic musican.

Phenomenally powerful and endlessly versatile, the Gibson TGE= -05 Echoplex Digital Pro Plus is a tool looking for an imagination to wield= it. The convenient 19" rackmount unit brings together digital recordi= ng, sampling, and digital delay so that musicians of every type can utilize= these powerful components in both studio and live applications. An amazing= 16-bit/41.5kHz RAM recorder lets you playback and record simultaneously ma= king ambient soundscapes, reversed loops, and rhythmic drones easy to creat= e and shape. It might help to think of the Echoplex as a sequencer for audi= o instead of MIDI, with all the capabilities of a sampler and a delay effec= t that ranges far beyond any pedal available. A progressive undo feature al= lows you to overdub with confidence. You can add unlimited overdubs onto an= y loop you record. The Echoplex Digital Pro is designed by and for musician= s. The intuitive and efficient controls on the rackmount unit and footpedal= make it easy to use and settings are displayed through a multifunction LED= . The switches on the optional EFC-7 foot control unit can also be custom c= onfigured, and play an integral part by allowing you to access all of the u= nit's main functions on the fly. Loops can be recorded, overdubbed, rev= ersed, and deleted with your feet, in real time. The Echoplex is completely= MIDI compatible. Performance controls send and receive MIDI; loops and sou= nd files may be saved and loaded via MIDI; and tempos can be synced to MIDI= clock. With 198 seconds of memory, 16-bit realtime digital loops, the capa= bility to layer all 9 loops complete with overdubs, simultaneous playback a= nd record, unlimited overdubs with progressive undos, and tap tempo control= s, the Echoplex is peerless.

Gibson TGE-05 Echoplex Digital Pro Plus Features:

  • 16-bit real= time digital loops
  • Layer up to 9 loops simultaneously
  • Playb= ack and record simultaneously
  • 198 seconds of loop/delay time
  • Tap tempo input
  • CD quality recording
  • Overdubbing with p= rogressive undos available
  • All functions accessible in real time wi= th optional EFC-7 footpedal
  • MIDI compatible
  • Live reverse pl= ay function

If you've ever wanted to=A0buy a Gibson Echoplex, now = is your chance.=A0

I have it listed at $700.00, but I am willing to = work with the price, if you are that interested in it. I won't go lower= than $550, though.

I can take credit card, check, or moneybooker. Even though it says you = can pay with PayPal, I can't do PayPal currently as I am settling a dis= pute with them.=A0

Please trust me. Willing to give my information i= f it makes you feel comfortable.


--
Sincerely,
Tim
--000e0cd331e650987d04a4af0912-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 01:19:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C07718349C; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 01:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5asQ6euaRPJxDdFxwvXsn6JDb7fmFbz8qWDLMfa45gU= c=1 sm=0 a=arqlzUs24eYA:10 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=bMv7VbvX3jdFtOWbrh0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Theresa Anderson on a couple RC-50's From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: <585168CB-4B81-4F93-BF7E-E535E5F63FFD@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:19:49 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5A4F8760-2ABF-4509-9ABD-DE4AA4AB6401@eijkhout.net> References: <585168CB-4B81-4F93-BF7E-E535E5F63FFD@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 01:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 168 Lines: 8 On Jun 1, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Looping on a couple RC-50's She has a serious gear fetish. Not that there's anything wrong with that.... Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 04:03:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B59511834A1; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 04:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1037 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 04:03:19 UTC Message-ID: <5CDA6AE224A9462185D045144FA1FF96@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "B-CIMF" From: "B-CIMF" To: References: <611E8733-78A1-490B-9D25-7F4A6DFEA644@eijkhout.net><4DE16214.8060901@cruzio.com><4DE200FB.9050807@tiscali.co.uk> <26860798.20147.1306983662975.JavaMail.root@m01> In-Reply-To: <26860798.20147.1306983662975.JavaMail.root@m01> Subject: New Dance Groove / Free Jazz Project Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:45:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0236_01CC20A5.4AF7ACA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18417 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 04:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5110 Lines: 124 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0236_01CC20A5.4AF7ACA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am seeking one or a few people to collaborate with me on a new = recording and live performance project. The seeds of the project = started with an online CD that Ted Killian and I created, where Ted = created a set of dance grooves and I played and looped guitar over it in = a free jazz style. http://www.krispenhartung.com/dance/index.html What I am wanting to do now is take this concept live and also create a = new CD. There are a handful of venues in Boise, ID (USA) that I think = would be receptive to this. The new project would consist of these = pre-recorded dance grooves, and on stage a live drummer would play with = those grooves (Jared Hallock), and then I would play guitar with a sax = player (Brent Jensen) I fabricated a sample of what this might sound like. This is one of = Ted's grooves, but with me and a sax player over the top, based on a = recording session we did as a duo. They are two entirely different songs = pasted together in to a mix, but since me and the sax player aren't = playing by any meter or rhythm it seems to work for an example. It is = weird how these two track align rhythmically and = harmonically....downright uncanny, actually. Here is the sample: http://www.box.net/shared/huyj3td7ih (download or play) http://www.box.net/shared/static/huyj3td7ih.mp3 (direct MP3) Anyway, if someone would be willing to contribute, we would give you = credit for the CD and at any live performances, and on our website. And = who knows, if it is someone in the USA, you could fly to Boise for a = gig. Any takers? Kris www.krispenhartung.com ------=_NextPart_000_0236_01CC20A5.4AF7ACA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am seeking one or a few people to = collaborate=20 with me on a new recording and live performance project.  The = seeds of=20 the project started with an online CD that Ted Killian and I created, = where Ted=20 created a set of dance grooves and I played and looped guitar over it in = a free=20 jazz style.  http://www.krispe= nhartung.com/dance/index.html
 
What I am wanting to do now is take = this concept=20 live and also create a new CD. There are a handful of venues in Boise, = ID (USA)=20 that I think would be receptive to this.  The new project would = consist of=20 these pre-recorded dance grooves, and on stage a live drummer would play = with=20 those grooves (Jared Hallock), and then I would play guitar with a sax = player=20 (Brent Jensen)
 
I fabricated a sample of what this = might sound=20 like.  This is one of Ted's grooves, but with me and a sax player = over the=20 top, based on a recording session we did as a duo. They are two entirely = different songs pasted together in to a mix, but since me and the sax = player=20 aren't playing by any meter or rhythm it seems to work for an example. = It is=20 weird how these two track align rhythmically and = harmonically....downright=20 uncanny, actually.
 
Here is the sample:
 
http://www.box.net/shared/h= uyj3td7ih (download=20 or play)
http://www.box.n= et/shared/static/huyj3td7ih.mp3 (direct=20 MP3)
 
Anyway, if someone would be willing to = contribute,=20 we would give you credit for the CD and at any live performances, and on = our=20 website.  And who knows, if it is someone in the USA, you could fly = to=20 Boise for a gig.
 
Any takers?
 
Kris
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------=_NextPart_000_0236_01CC20A5.4AF7ACA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 07:52:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A44621834A1; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 618854595/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.237/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.237 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkUCAMBA501V0r3t/2dsb2JhbAAMR5gY1waGIQSVHop6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,308,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="618854595" Message-ID: <4DE74139.5010806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:52:25 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...) References: <804241.76820.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CDEEC6D6636D54-1F00-4E1BF@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDEEC6D6636D54-1F00-4E1BF@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 616 Lines: 26 Yep, Frisell's one of the few high profile guys who uses loops creatively. I took the time to do some listening (based on the recommendations here) and found up an old cassette tape of a Power Tools concert (BBC broadcast from 90's?). At one point he's creating a whole solo out of retriggering a short loop at different speeds. Don't know if he does that sort of thing on his mainstream releases. ...anyone??? andy Patrick Bishop wrote: > Smash and Scatteration is awesome! Bill did lots of looping on that. > Vernon and Bill are a great team. I wish they would do something else > together! > > :-)PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 07:56:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D1DF1834A1; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-02_04:2011-06-02,2011-06-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106020005 Message-id: <7D438CE380A345CDA090948F659D8355@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <804241.76820.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CDEEC6D6636D54-1F00-4E1BF@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> <4DE74139.5010806@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 00:57:02 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1172 Lines: 42 No, he didn't do much crazy loopage on his records but there was plenty of dissonance and weirdness. He did that short loop thing you're describing at Bumbershoot one year (Seattle arts fest thingy). It was one of those blue Digitech 2 second samplers with two switches. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...) > Yep, > Frisell's one of the few high profile guys who uses loops creatively. > I took the time to do some listening (based on the recommendations here) > and found up an old cassette tape of a Power Tools concert > (BBC broadcast from 90's?). > At one point he's creating a whole solo out of retriggering a > short loop at different speeds. > > > > Don't know if he does that sort of thing on his mainstream releases. > ...anyone??? > > > > > andy > > > Patrick Bishop wrote: >> Smash and Scatteration is awesome! Bill did lots of looping on that. >> Vernon and Bill are a great team. I wish they would do something else >> together! >> >> :-)PJ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 17:50:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B237118349F; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2EvjWtKklG4KuIGr1SCRCEKuGOCNFxoBSX+FjF3cd5w=; b=hYnixe1aa1mTWkdjtkJUWLKPTG1DKkwLjFzF+IX4yC9BSTAF6KTMx0tb294umQB0GI 28S7JKJAUQAc0/OJCTgcdr5iXg9h2mMPRrSoZF43NUn912yWGr1ieplpUgDaDqPMiVlE av4GqHfhOB7oQl4Sfl51jhz8CitMI7JgnFUn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KH62lUybA/R7GPswKY92vX0S52tBHF+4fVXdDZBd9tY+yICOk0GO7PlBkH1WwegrcQ xYYk722cZmpFTJqKQE+u0dLyaOSKolibzK4zXj/8hgAswyJDUHhYfWxJ/aIOst2YL4kU /pg/XtgVuGFsbrw4exbdYzuPbg1hqbl30EncI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:50:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a8407e386904a4be462a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2963 Lines: 62 --000e0cd6a8407e386904a4be462a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been working on a portable looping/production setup for the past few months, and I'm not in the mixing stage of things. Basically, I have: Guitar -> Reverse Reverb -> ADSR -> Analog Delay -> Digital Delay -> Tremolo -> Bitcrusher -> Fuzz -> Reverb -> Filter Vox -> aux of mixer (contains verb/filter) Drum machine -> aux of mixer (verb/filter) Bass synth -> aux of mixer (verb/filter) I only have one gibson echoplex and it's becoming very limiting since I want the ability to pan everything. 1) Are there any viable midi-synced multi-track loopers with panning options? 2)How/where should I pan the looped parts so that they don't interfere with the dry signal? Should I just position the dry and loop at the same spot and eventually let the loops become the focus? I typically lay down 3 guitar parts summed to mono, becomes one big polyrhythmic/counterpoint part, add a bass line or vocals, and have the drum machine constantly going. 3) I'd really like the ability to start bringing things in and out, almost like live composing or doing live electronic tracks. Without using software (ableton live) is there any non uber-expensive hardware option to do this? Sorry, this might be vague. --000e0cd6a8407e386904a4be462a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been working on a portable looping/production setup for the past f= ew months, and I'm not in the mixing stage of things.

Basically, I have:
Guitar -> Reverse Reverb -> ADSR ->= Analog Delay -> Digital Delay -> Tremolo -> Bitcrusher -> Fuzz= -> Reverb -> Filter
Vox -> aux of mixer (contains verb/filter)
Drum machine -= > aux of mixer (verb/filter)
Bass synth -> aux of mixer (ve= rb/filter)

I only have one gibson echoplex and it&= #39;s becoming very limiting since I want the ability to pan everything.=A0=
1) Are there any viable midi-synced multi-track loopers with panning o= ptions?

2)How/where should I pan the looped parts = so that they don't interfere with the dry signal? Should I just positio= n the dry and loop at the same spot and eventually let the loops become the= focus?

I typically lay down 3 guitar parts summed to mono, bec= omes one big polyrhythmic/counterpoint part, add a bass line or vocals, and= have the drum machine constantly going.

3) I'= d really like the ability to start bringing things in and out, almost like = live composing or doing live electronic tracks. Without using software (abl= eton live) is there any non uber-expensive hardware option to do this?

Sorry, this might be vague.

--000e0cd6a8407e386904a4be462a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 18:00:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77D071834A1; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DE7CFAD.2030503@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:00:13 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1043 Lines: 18 GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Radio Massacre International. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 18:20:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A4A018349C; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ESSF40acPVHsmX4vAtlCdZEpkWJC+cU5+4c4a3AmYrk=; b=hMZZ8jDBMozXqqAml0OVFZo2q7u47y6OTeBGiKxL0qwxXysSL2N8B64UcknJ4wSnqM Qiqsvbb17O3VKwIeaJ/Aqot71vpE4twRNTEB8XzIIgx8+OVl9Hz0LyEoSpxzzsIbt2TG seroAA2DwWfIpKdjYxhot1ImBgey7/khYSWQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ww9xpsd2CjM3hwefd0ily8LPfA/hP33BJL6YdQI/qgMDuZvL60znfAL5z/Q5nXansL w4JNT+w/zOPdMPHWmH0E3bKlRGixj5zLJZt6PyfndyQ3+IdIIJ2J6ZeVpiHlm9ClULuJ OSz1Des5f6a/G2GETYUduhj/ejDBRckks43WI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:20:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 655 Lines: 17 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:50 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > 3) I'd really like the ability to start bringing things in and out, almost > like live composing or doing live electronic tracks. Without using software > (ableton live) is there any non uber-expensive hardware option to do this? Most looping devices can do this for you, given that you get several of them and run them in parallel. If the loopers doesn't provide a convenient way of fading volume and panning stereo position you may also need a mixer i order to do that. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 18:36:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3297818349E; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 232518.79545.bm@omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307039768; bh=kHwOvdQq54UFymPxZmkoYklWhH2jvxGLSIMQpqZ9pXA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w1U6MmNdIgjXl0sVu4vmamwLK8t5hlMtUMv/pqNAJ/A0Y9Wdom7Enn12T2CIR0smrx4OfwnWa8KMFeK7ggdy6HpAKPLMYa+RaTRoyBoJlFIlFeUwCHcos4/qFtiKgtLhXOF23ZaD8Bn7M8WOiYEzW+vM/KdkyUjgj7LlnDghnW0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KHAZB1Bmy+2gBR6JAyG0YxklF9Oj+RIktCFteowGXdgN9PYMuRNi3AfvIhX2jVNU3X5aHgeVPbONGZrVYn+K10Ja8a1pwFCWGsWavp4kuN4xKz9i2wV7gdYGzoX8VJ7Ri3yehTrzH8uZN+jX/Ch7xkwDc0hC5uerqd04o8txuvc=; Message-ID: <127564.64022.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .IBHiFcVM1lhYFkMFmGFsVNz6Zgj2FTXfw5tz7E_3ix1nem eYLIcZNZ6glRcZzR.ErOdQMzlgUsyulIwUDemS6f3ZXXHlz8JHbaelBaW2Kt r1JpYSi2ItveXfx_4t004cp9yvxsZO4iDSuTI1g8M8t6UFzb_30.HNVvEL24 V3VUeOMtcBQHMo6OUc_lJkbBsHHhJxVwkzv4MZ_RwvBRsV8AOGdOiN_Uyr1y Js797zSm9FxZ8g0A_lPu5dIyzq0RiPUpOelT0jLTFbuoAnILb4oM3Z0i9IC6 y.5NUh9yxqHzLrsQcGZv4hpTPJijV.WkVPXcJTQVEUGNRAXEXqMkjT4uqWki FPP4EiwK3D9sGHPO3apfPp_cVfuUr2gIpKsL_iJM5cx76JBl7iq8Xiik5NKK kOHaQszZv3FcCJSlP.SzSUm18ILfbeBxMJVFjaGJS4TQTFeSikrfKecPMtvI ssXIieiNbBzWwCviltZKW7_32LqzpoMei9BkqdOP_HbwlrsfnazYSwWyEV27 NAEQD491bm.z6K3LfhwdwqHcRzg.Nmg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1707906497-1307039767=:64022" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3079 Lines: 42 --0-1707906497-1307039767=:64022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii you could probably do all that with looperlative LP1 or Elektron Octotrack Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:20:12 PM Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:50 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > 3) I'd really like the ability to start bringing things in and out, almost > like live composing or doing live electronic tracks. Without using software > (ableton live) is there any non uber-expensive hardware option to do this? Most looping devices can do this for you, given that you get several of them and run them in parallel. If the loopers doesn't provide a convenient way of fading volume and panning stereo position you may also need a mixer i order to do that. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub --0-1707906497-1307039767=:64022 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
you could probably do all that with looperlative LP1 or Elektron Octotrack

Antony Hequet

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:20:12 PM
Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects?

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:50 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> 3) I'd really like the ability to start bringing things in and out, almost
> like live composing or doing live electronic tracks. Without using software
> (ableton live) is there any non uber-expensive hardware option to do this?


Most looping devices can do this for you, given that you get several
of them and run them in parallel. If the loopers doesn't provide a
convenient way of fading volume and panning stereo position you may
also need a mixer i order to do that.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

--0-1707906497-1307039767=:64022-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 18:49:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BBDB18349F; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tHi11JH2G283WUQi+Cvk1u490XSgykGvRMJHQxMYqAU=; b=eZq6yan8ylrWxXsrGWsJessVjh1Ii9WAmHf8FDPBrTAy9rabJ/4FPdEIOoz8KuaUjp tKY79Nw+JL3/uH5UKvbdvj9Nkm5rRftS7M9GjCUptZBxlt/Aoa57m2Q0u4zpnA/wTooS Jvdl5bAZnpx56DxOWux8OcW2y8XNXWX4C9oi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=brtMOv4BJivGFXwJHgUET+eIKdfvc7+/TlIhjzQfRV0j6dapPfgevlNbSD0Evg9l6h 8gnBiK2vSLksxGSUtkdmUModUbRCGKGwikC+lM/JuLlXZ06/XQEUd+M7aiXBLwZzFfLL YOSVFpI6lbXuUsA116GJvLFGBIP3ipBGQNw/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <127564.64022.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <127564.64022.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:49:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2a0087fa76b04a4bf1a65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3355 Lines: 77 --000e0cd2a0087fa76b04a4bf1a65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, I think the octatrack or lp1 is the way to go. The lp1 has midi sync issues though, right? And the octatrack isn't completely set up for live looping at this point? On Jun 2, 2011 1:36 PM, wrote: > you could probably do all that with looperlative LP1 or Elektron Octotrack > > Antony Hequet > > > > ________________________________ > From: Per Boysen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:20:12 PM > Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:50 PM, marcus kirby wrote: >> 3) I'd really like the ability to start bringing things in and out, almost >> like live composing or doing live electronic tracks. Without using software >> (ableton live) is there any non uber-expensive hardware option to do this? > > > Most looping devices can do this for you, given that you get several > of them and run them in parallel. If the loopers doesn't provide a > convenient way of fading volume and panning stereo position you may > also need a mixer i order to do that. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub --000e0cd2a0087fa76b04a4bf1a65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah, I think the octatrack or lp1 is the way to go. The lp1 has midi sy= nc issues though, right? And the octatrack isn't completely set up for = live looping at this point?

On Jun 2, 2011 1:36 PM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> you could probably do all that with looperlative LP1 or Elek= tron Octotrack
>
> Antony Hequet
>
>
>
> ____________= ____________________
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:20:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Mixing four in= struments, loopers, and tons of effects?
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 20= 11 at 7:50 PM, marcus kirby <ma= rcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 3) I'd really like the ability to start bringing things in and= out, almost
>> like live composing or doing live electronic track= s. Without using software
>> (ableton live) is there any non uber-= expensive hardware option to do this?
>
>
> Most looping devices can do this for you, given that= you get several
> of them and run them in parallel. If the loopers d= oesn't provide a
> convenient way of fading volume and panning st= ereo position you may
> also need a mixer i order to do that.
>
> Greetings from = Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboys= en.com
> www.looproom.com internet musi= c hub
--000e0cd2a0087fa76b04a4bf1a65-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 18:53:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B65E11834A1; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 442740.11611.bm@omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307040809; bh=uqDrcXNqFvr2nskeQgtiG4PULOY4hcXuRQsoiBuarcY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zLg0EH77HYFr5DgSs3/MrAGxSYrY0JYyPhEqxGeEemO72c70lPSFUNtaPUWJTbi4zVYeRaf/kl+JqesdBEK+wOV8833FAiCyU7ucdE128KRN/8bHijy1CnX0vhIkN4Ovd5hs5Hbw75QZEeoKe2ZxPfkxbk7toOJftHCHPSvJMg0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HGgu467AnFbUcm4XmHsJz4GANM632pYhSE8w0Z5VvDPR8Ss0ymI6VBeJX2BiePLdMuBoVMBvksHRfgRHtX/ubHO2LMgp1qoaz2vzsjc1+NQrTQO0wjFURKL0wyr71bPw7qgt86heOliRm22xIey1a5fw/vZm1hag/SGPoLtWbt8=; Message-ID: <342422.79693.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: e7ab2N4VM1nbJjCiXNZqGBKr_uMwTp3xLVCa0xRsLx3nX5n 2Jp9NbVgRwaD0j.YFlmt.88GTGHNGaGa1iJw8uZaLwDW5AK_D_kz4DGmrof_ z1EYxBBwU1h8d.DnV1HRK8fdrfx7sPi3AVXpipxO7A6yPjgGHM3jSvNnUX5E YRABH6YQYsiWcHXq4AJba.zo1WHz.nVcaPVBpqScMtkMtzklUx5r.5LwO8r6 69dtnUMPck2PSgQaGKZz7qpPWVZclJWXvlLUBUdrquxqzYtifMLbjT6PFTbN s88tDapmCAhsteg.RaCnhcoPnXJ4ZLY1pnlxdMc2P2OOKYxN5pI2CgPmW68a DO22kF1cOxGm0ZXD9wtTvsxvKQMMPlyzEpTg..m01m1HIDIlMU3Cp3BbjFgc Eo1Q0RmtbOIX17u4TFosLRgcUA110RZ.xLs4N5cyYzLpYH2GFGR0kOZlm0Dz iQilHGhU_tvZ1QRchzu8V1JOM99LSp9NRsRbkKF9L.EYw_VHbi.w5ursq0hJ G9L4gAR2s0kI9LLlMP.nn82AGk4GulA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <127564.64022.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1052610737-1307040809=:79693" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5353 Lines: 73 --0-1052610737-1307040809=:79693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am not aware of synch issues with the LP1, but then I have never tried it. I can check it out, since I have one... Ther are users on the list. I believe the Octotrack is now set up for full live looping and MID capability. RAM memory might be an issue here... Check it out. ANtony Hequet ________________________________ From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:49:57 PM Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? Yeah, I think the octatrack or lp1 is the way to go. The lp1 has midi sync issues though, right? And the octatrack isn't completely set up for live looping at this point? On Jun 2, 2011 1:36 PM, wrote: > you could probably do all that with looperlative LP1 or Elektron Octotrack > > Antony Hequet > > > > ________________________________ > From: Per Boysen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:20:12 PM > Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects? > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:50 PM, marcus kirby wrote: >> 3) I'd really like the ability to start bringing things in and out, almost >> like live composing or doing live electronic tracks. Without using software >> (ableton live) is there any non uber-expensive hardware option to do this? > > > Most looping devices can do this for you, given that you get several > of them and run them in parallel. If the loopers doesn't provide a > convenient way of fading volume and panning stereo position you may > also need a mixer i order to do that. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub --0-1052610737-1307040809=:79693 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am not aware of synch issues with the LP1, but then I have  never tried it. I can check it out, since I have one... Ther are users on the list.
I believe the Octotrack is now set up for full live looping and MID capability. RAM memory might be an issue here...

Check it out.

ANtony Hequet

From: marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:49:57 PM
Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects?

Yeah, I think the octatrack or lp1 is the way to go. The lp1 has midi sync issues though, right? And the octatrack isn't completely set up for live looping at this point?

On Jun 2, 2011 1:36 PM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> you could probably do all that with looperlative LP1 or Elektron Octotrack
>
> Antony Hequet
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:20:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Mixing four instruments, loopers, and tons of effects?
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:50 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 3) I'd really like the ability to start bringing things in and out, almost
>> like live composing or doing live electronic tracks. Without using software
>> (ableton live) is there any non uber-expensive hardware option to do this?
>
>
> Most looping devices can do this for you, given that you get several
> of them and run them in parallel. If the loopers doesn't provide a
> convenient way of fading volume and panning stereo position you may
> also need a mixer i order to do that.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
--0-1052610737-1307040809=:79693-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 19:02:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 564091834A0; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=S8QKcATsf9Lqs9AZJJtoghbMTAzJyi3+98KEQL+lGw8=; b=xTtWtN8SSYftlguRAdYInkfQCZr0Or47lgfYj0Ox+XUxNq0zM4ZKPc8evJtXihaw1r Vw9Y5Z8Kmwr2oWAbnGB9zyKWMXQUT0NVCiqUBSMM4nOOn2eBRABfNX2BidGkXp0zQ40n otNbLFayUem8deQ4ANiQfXuSFi1/VxpOZKAxg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=m/T5K9+BR65Q2m/YjH7LY6qqfSVXCY6NPxV7uIKP3roCjlNyN4K6Vm23chWVBeLQOi bkS2WDZ7ERSirjmGDO6dUnYORgYsFV0wjLr6i1TKv41LEW5cfzTa8iqxjvZdIx7tyqSB pHdsh2oNTGHHcMVlQH/MroCNdWg4OHqVs3YR4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:02:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: frisell/lafosse....loopers From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd30ba4e8268704a4bf452a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6273 Lines: 118 --000e0cd30ba4e8268704a4bf452a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 re: ...but I think that to be innovative as a looper it's actually necessary to invent a loop technique, or to apply that technique in a new way, or to bring those results that others have achieved into a different musical context. Not the same as being innovative *and* a looper. i love BF as much as anybody, i'm not his publicist, have a lot of his albums, don't have all. he has a lot out. i may have to look up the exact meaning of "innovative", since i studied post modern theory in grad school for art, there is a big debate if the word "innovate" is really relevant i think. i personally think his work has really changed, it seemed more aggressive to me in his early stuff (which i love!) i was talking to a friend about him once, i think he is all about music. i doubt he cares about looping or being innovative for my understanding of the term (again i may have to look it it). listen to the power tools album (i had it on vinyl, then lost my cassette, found it CHEAP on cd yrs ago). some great stuff. he can certainly play out there, as he illustrated on this from the late 80s...he has said that his eh16ddl is all over this, i have a hard time actually hearing it, i think he uses it seamlessly....its just a tool in his arsenal.... the other cut-is on henry kaiser's "re-marrying for money", the extra cut that's a duet between BF & HK-whoa...they are just playing w/ pure sound, it is an amazing track that runs 10 min-it was a live improv.-i believe this is from 1989....i don't remember hearing too many people play like this in 1989. and i would put the live 2 min loop improv he did a the concert i saw of him in iowa city on july 4th 2009-as one of the most innovative noise-fests i've ever heard. i honestly thought it put what i've heard sonic youth do to shame.... granted he did it only for 2 min. the crowd's mouths/jaws were sort of dropped, people scratching their head, going "what the.... is this....". to hear this in the context of his very melodic playing w/in his band context was quite jarring. i loved it. i think i was in the minority. listen to the little loop things he does on "ghost town". that is what he does very well. but he keeps it small/short, just a tasty noise morsel for folks like me who want more, but then he goes into his other things..... if i were to sum up, his innovation is: i think he is able to combine the use of noise and extended technique (think what derek bailey did) w/ his melodic explorations of jazz and americana. as for ANDRE LAFOSSE-i was listening to a disc of his pre-normalized tests w/ the edp-the start of his turntablist stuff....it's a bit simpler than normalized in sound, but man, it just blows my mind his playing. the way he uses the guitar percussively, pops, snaps, it's just awe-inspiring.... s--- www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn --000e0cd30ba4e8268704a4bf452a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable re:
...but I think that to be innovative as a looper 
it's a=
ctually necessary to invent a loop technique, 
or to apply that techniqu=
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results that others have achieved into=
 a different musical context.


Not the same as being innovative *and* a looper.

i love BF= as much as anybody, i'm not his publicist, have a lot of his albums, d= on't have all. he has a lot out.
i may have to look up the exact mea= ning of "innovative", since i studied post modern theory in grad = school for art,
there is a big debate if the word "innovate" is really relevant i= think.

i personally think his work has really changed, it seemed m= ore aggressive to me in his early stuff (which i love!)
i was talking to= a friend about him once, i think he is all about music. i doubt he cares a= bout looping or being innovative

for my understanding of the term (again i may have to look it it).
l= isten to the power tools album (i had it on vinyl, then lost my cassette, f= ound it CHEAP on cd yrs ago). some great stuff.
he can certainly play ou= t there, as he illustrated on this from the late 80s...he has said that his= eh16ddl is all over this,
i have a hard time actually hearing it, i think he uses it seamlessly....it= s just a tool in his arsenal....

the other cut-is on henry kaiser= 9;s "re-marrying for money", the extra cut that's a duet betw= een BF & HK-whoa...they are just
playing w/ pure sound, it is an amazing track that runs 10 min-it was a liv= e improv.-i believe this is from 1989....i don't remember
hearing t= oo=A0 many people play like this in 1989.

and i would put the live 2= min loop improv he did a the concert i saw of him in iowa city on july 4th= 2009-as one of the most
innovative noise-fests i've ever heard. i honestly thought it put what = i've heard sonic youth do to shame.... granted he did it only
for 2 = min. the crowd's mouths/jaws were sort of dropped, people scratching th= eir head, going "what the.... is this....".
to hear this in the context of his very melodic playing w/in his band conte= xt was quite jarring. i loved it. i think i was in the minority.

lis= ten to the little loop things he does on "ghost town". that is wh= at he does very well. but he keeps it small/short, just a tasty noise morse= l
for folks like me who want more, but then he goes into his other things....= .

if i were to sum up, his innovation is: i think he is able to com= bine the use of noise and extended technique (think
what derek bailey did) w/ his melodic explorations of jazz and americana. <= br>
as for ANDRE LAFOSSE-i was listening to a disc of his pre-normalized= tests w/ the edp-the start of his turntablist stuff....it's a bit simp= ler than
normalized in sound, but man, it just blows my mind his playing. the way he= uses the guitar percussively, pops, snaps, it's just awe-inspiring....=

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--000e0cd30ba4e8268704a4bf452a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 19:55:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 722E3183461; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <7D438CE380A345CDA090948F659D8355@NORBY11> Subject: RE: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:55:37 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwhTbA+Q9BKeA9nTICLdtMyJ0glSgAEMsMA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 In-Reply-To: <7D438CE380A345CDA090948F659D8355@NORBY11> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 267 Lines: 8 > No, he didn't do much crazy loopage on his records but there was plenty of dissonance and weirdness. Frisell's one crazy loopage record, I'd say, is Safety in Numbers (on American Blood / Safety in Numbers) from 1995 - full of Digitech PDS8000 weirdness -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 20:15:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19475183462; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Wb5kTkCSLv7QOaPwx49emia7+Gtpw8N6V5hb6hunbLE=; b=NzV9h7t9glzrfP2jENM6S3vfTKVmbDcOzIZuWOmk3RYRVsGjHRU4JlcM47Ltngd6XB k+u0aFMMNyk7MdV7EKKQ2c4Z0XyWI9ngF6b0FnlVKxx+NHdNPsIwBJfVnJ6FRhH2Mr7r J1EgOltJ7RS5dWJQcLJmeit/JnwbJT+kmvvrA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=EXXHv2SUoSuKlwBwEkwHivhjj9rSZlW9/P9GejRMVIkKqnZHlTPPkGie5Rob0M4RhS Auu1/VTpH+M2vRyzi7eqrXOI1RReDAa1Z+cjIRuUQDYvO/tixua/fUm2oIsqYoyn5hr+ rNbnBurHBGSZJAw3exggqy5sRbS/OjePaWLZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:15:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3056 Lines: 63 What's your take on the ultimate question of finding a balance between playing and controlling looper actions? Personally my rig is set up with four stereo loopers in parallel. Sometimes I create loops in all four to fade them in and out seamlessly but other times I stick with only one channel and overdub musical parts as new layers into the same loop, then typically creating a bunch of (never more than five) alternative linear loops to jump between as "A-B-C" song parts. It was a year now since I skipped bringing a little MIDI hand mixer and my recent live looping is all controlled by just one MIDI foot pedalboard with ten switches and two expression pedal. However, I'm now thinking of plugging in my old mini MIDI hand mixer again as well as getting a third expression pedal in. I've been feeling uncomfortable with the heavy "tap dancing" on the control pedals needed for such a foot dependent control situation. I want to get back to having most looper commands instantly available for both feet and hands. My foot controller, the Gordius Little Giant 2, offers ten switches in one bank and if you need to give a command that is included in another bank you will have to first kick the bank change switch, then kick the apart command, then kick the bank change switch again in order to get back into the the bank where you are mostly busy. Better than to stay in the fist bank and simply move one hand off the instrument for two seconds to press a MIDI button on the side table for the apart command. Or what? The three expression pedals are for 1) Looper Feedback, 2) Live Audio Input Swell (manual fade-in/out, typically used to get a soft violin-like note attack) combined with Freeze-reverb (in a crossfade value manner). 3) Activating tremolo stuttering of the (pre looper) Freeze-reverb and sweep through rhythmic values between 1/4 note and 1/68 note. The looper function I have been dissing for the last year is Feedback, but I want to get back to it now with this third expression pedal. It's nice to have the option do pieces that focus on only one loop, using the feedback function as a sculpturing tool. With the returning little hand mixer I'm getting back to controlling the Mobius looper's Secondary Feedback globally from a robust hand mixer fader. I use Secondary Feedback for Substitute, as a way to control how much of the old audio layers will be kept vs thrown out under a new slice I cut into the loop. I tried to replace this hand control fader by a foot switch set up as 1 click = Secondary Feedback 0 2 clicks = Secondary Feedback 64 (my default) 3 clicks = Secondary Feedback 110 4 clicks = Secondary Feedback 127 (equaling "Overdub") But it just got to too much tap dancing ;-)) And I noticed I often need to dial in more precise Secondary Feedback values than those four. And four rapid clicks on a foot switch is kind of the upper limit for how many functions you can stack on the same switch anyway. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 20:25:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 532A2183475; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XObiONbJwryTvLJc7rH0kLJsDqbfMbSoL4+o+lq/rYh9acyY+UuB8AIjSoHaLEoe; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <24817706.1307035555597.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:25:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48fa64ef6c8c8196df42ae924c6a643970a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.44 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 719 Lines: 18 Yes&No on that BF record(which i have and play alot) and as a PDS8000 abuser also. Bill has a guy playing samplers and electronics on that-so there is a lot of sonic manipulation that you cannot pull off on the pds alone. -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Peters >Sent: Jun 2, 2011 12:55 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: Frisell as looper (was: livelooping article for guitar magazine...) > >> No, he didn't do much crazy loopage on his records but there was plenty of >dissonance and weirdness. > >Frisell's one crazy loopage record, I'd say, is Safety in Numbers (on >American Blood / Safety in Numbers) from 1995 - full of Digitech PDS8000 >weirdness > >-Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 21:17:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB3F1183462; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yOy3nqwcAl1hDQqXgRJ/kOQDBKz+f81RyRhbknstiqw=; b=db7wCDBE8aAwgLOWPZymvD/PhsZVfdoK3lfbWCuJbe9VA1Dh02ZoNXuwNejNw01aDj Em6OYPXtxbftCBOvi+1PBnDiXsG3iSVySs1YYpuRzwN6GuR8M2pR98l/bGRIS/2XN8gw DPhXBaXPCNDt3zGqhnID4LAkz9CrdUxJFCBeU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=R84/QRUERs07l9AwXwBenTpMrCbYTLEuLs4L+SBtlX9opAPb0bXFbRo/Ldq+GOZN2V xjDc0Uw5ztVZekDyG6MIUCBiO9aKpjfq/5gAIE5qUVJN1mAFn3sj+MMPxX0Ra4VW4cqZ dm4XXxRhFyWl5q/vYBWy37yimwImxYuhcJw+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:17:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: I miss my Digitech PDS8000, any VST alternatives? From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221572697e9b233304a4c128b2 Resent-Message-ID: <2I8cJB.A.Xt.T3_5NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 776 Lines: 23 --00221572697e9b233304a4c128b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of the Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with that wonderful 2 octave+ range? -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --00221572697e9b233304a4c128b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of th= e Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with that = wonderful 2 octave+ range?

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--00221572697e9b233304a4c128b2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 21:43:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79011183486; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AyrvMoHvO38cbu2eoVRL9mYpi5Zt/eAgD21UkQsyHDA=; b=COK2MqqZ56vXtkwqoEyHZi0LQ4Ub/a14MYZe0Vlboac9OYNeXTqpZrADzPIWwO6Z3G eaGB/vS1lSmcwYALDmM23vGjs5jt0TDcKFXlBm/honKTGe7Z53wUaEn4YtpWKuV5jNTh +DmQUXdGrBFViDX05SNqrI4XZ0g0GXrFEBqfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=b3YQEkBc3YBJQQdnZC9i3Tfz0pkkVF8b3vj0mNlo/G/fDbMK3YU0WDTSc4jguBd18f 91u4UQpElQZjdkCBEjqgV5LCKQFQ11PcKtuPdRMkWL3hfJYGuNAWvpEX4TRtA+9lBFMo wZ1APMKrMhSNcznRS432hYLp/7KwzrRak0N4c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:43:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Septar Board - Polyphonic audio break out kits - Update From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 910 Lines: 24 Hi Folks, Septar Kits will be made available for those using the Graphtech Hexpander pickup system, later this month. For those who don't know what I'm ranting on about, please see below; The "Septar" board functions as a break out box for polyphonic audio pick-up systems for electric guitar (including those designed solely for MIDI application) to allow audio for each string. The following prototype has been developed with a newly designed circuit to improve audio output of piezo-based pickup systems (notably, the Hexpander by Graphtech Guitar Labs). The first prototype of the Septar Board has been undergoing various preliminary tests over the past few months. Thanks to Andy Butler for testing the Septar board in his own time. Update: http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011 Any questions, contact me off list: info AT NO SPAM rickygraham DOT net Ricky http://rickygraham.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 21:44:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7725718349C; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_08d94845-8025-4fcd-9413-a1c7387fb328_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.108.125] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:44:11 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2011 21:44:12.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[3631BC10:01CC216E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 8747 Lines: 168 --_08d94845-8025-4fcd-9413-a1c7387fb328_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Per=2CI reckon it's ok to tap dance sometimes=2C not touch a midi switch= for minutes on end and stop playing altogether and just play around with y= our loops for as long as you like. It makes for an interesting Per-formance= - (sorry) G Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Thu=2C 2 Jun 2011 22:15:05 +0200 > Subject: What's your looper control strategy? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > What's your take on the ultimate question of finding a balance between > playing and controlling looper actions? >=20 > Personally my rig is set up with four stereo loopers in parallel. > Sometimes I create loops in all four to fade them in and out > seamlessly but other times I stick with only one channel and overdub > musical parts as new layers into the same loop=2C then typically > creating a bunch of (never more than five) alternative linear loops to > jump between as "A-B-C" song parts. >=20 > It was a year now since I skipped bringing a little MIDI hand mixer > and my recent live looping is all controlled by just one MIDI foot > pedalboard with ten switches and two expression pedal. However=2C I'm > now thinking of plugging in my old mini MIDI hand mixer again as well > as getting a third expression pedal in. I've been feeling > uncomfortable with the heavy "tap dancing" on the control pedals > needed for such a foot dependent control situation. I want to get back > to having most looper commands instantly available for both feet and > hands. My foot controller=2C the Gordius Little Giant 2=2C offers ten > switches in one bank and if you need to give a command that is > included in another bank you will have to first kick the bank change > switch=2C then kick the apart command=2C then kick the bank change switch > again in order to get back into the the bank where you are mostly > busy. Better than to stay in the fist bank and simply move one hand > off the instrument for two seconds to press a MIDI button on the side > table for the apart command. Or what? >=20 > The three expression pedals are for > 1) Looper Feedback=2C > 2) Live Audio Input Swell (manual fade-in/out=2C typically used to get a > soft violin-like note attack) combined with Freeze-reverb (in a > crossfade value manner). > 3) Activating tremolo stuttering of the (pre looper) Freeze-reverb and > sweep through rhythmic values between 1/4 note and 1/68 note. >=20 > The looper function I have been dissing for the last year is Feedback=2C > but I want to get back to it now with this third expression pedal. > It's nice to have the option do pieces that focus on only one loop=2C > using the feedback function as a sculpturing tool. >=20 > With the returning little hand mixer I'm getting back to controlling > the Mobius looper's Secondary Feedback globally from a robust hand > mixer fader. I use Secondary Feedback for Substitute=2C as a way to > control how much of the old audio layers will be kept vs thrown out > under a new slice I cut into the loop. I tried to replace this hand > control fader by a foot switch set up as >=20 > 1 click =3D Secondary Feedback 0 > 2 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 64 (my default) > 3 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 110 > 4 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 127 (equaling "Overdub") >=20 > But it just got to too much tap dancing =3B-)) And I noticed I often > need to dial in more precise Secondary Feedback values than those > four. And four rapid clicks on a foot switch is kind of the upper > limit for how many functions you can stack on the same switch anyway. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 = --_08d94845-8025-4fcd-9413-a1c7387fb328_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Per=2C
I reckon it's ok to tap dance sometimes=2C not touch a = midi switch for minutes on end and stop playing altogether and just play ar= ound with your loops for as long as you like. =3B
It makes for an i= nteresting Per-formance - (sorry)

G

Gareth= =2C Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



>= =3B Date: Thu=2C 2 Jun 2011 22:15:05 +0200
>=3B Subject: What's your l= ooper control strategy?
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B What's your take on= the ultimate question of finding a balance between
>=3B playing and c= ontrolling looper actions?
>=3B
>=3B Personally my rig is set up= with four stereo loopers in parallel.
>=3B Sometimes I create loops i= n all four to fade them in and out
>=3B seamlessly but other times I s= tick with only one channel and overdub
>=3B musical parts as new layer= s into the same loop=2C then typically
>=3B creating a bunch of (never= more than five) alternative linear loops to
>=3B jump between as "A-B= -C" song parts.
>=3B
>=3B It was a year now since I skipped brin= ging a little MIDI hand mixer
>=3B and my recent live looping is all c= ontrolled by just one MIDI foot
>=3B pedalboard with ten switches and = two expression pedal. However=2C I'm
>=3B now thinking of plugging in = my old mini MIDI hand mixer again as well
>=3B as getting a third expr= ession pedal in. I've been feeling
>=3B uncomfortable with the heavy "= tap dancing" on the control pedals
>=3B needed for such a foot depende= nt control situation. I want to get back
>=3B to having most looper co= mmands instantly available for both feet and
>=3B hands. My foot contr= oller=2C the Gordius Little Giant 2=2C offers ten
>=3B switches in one= bank and if you need to give a command that is
>=3B included in anoth= er bank you will have to first kick the bank change
>=3B switch=2C the= n kick the apart command=2C then kick the bank change switch
>=3B agai= n in order to get back into the the bank where you are mostly
>=3B bus= y. Better than to stay in the fist bank and simply move one hand
>=3B = off the instrument for two seconds to press a MIDI button on the side
&g= t=3B table for the apart command. Or what?
>=3B
>=3B The three e= xpression pedals are for
>=3B 1) Looper Feedback=2C
>=3B 2) Live = Audio Input Swell (manual fade-in/out=2C typically used to get a
>=3B = soft violin-like note attack) combined with Freeze-reverb (in a
>=3B c= rossfade value manner).
>=3B 3) Activating tremolo stuttering of the (= pre looper) Freeze-reverb and
>=3B sweep through rhythmic values betwe= en 1/4 note and 1/68 note.
>=3B
>=3B The looper function I have = been dissing for the last year is Feedback=2C
>=3B but I want to get b= ack to it now with this third expression pedal.
>=3B It's nice to have= the option do pieces that focus on only one loop=2C
>=3B using the fe= edback function as a sculpturing tool.
>=3B
>=3B With the return= ing little hand mixer I'm getting back to controlling
>=3B the Mobius = looper's Secondary Feedback globally from a robust hand
>=3B mixer fad= er. I use Secondary Feedback for Substitute=2C as a way to
>=3B contro= l how much of the old audio layers will be kept vs thrown out
>=3B und= er a new slice I cut into the loop. I tried to replace this hand
>=3B = control fader by a foot switch set up as
>=3B
>=3B 1 click =3D = Secondary Feedback 0
>=3B 2 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 64 (my defau= lt)
>=3B 3 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 110
>=3B 4 clicks =3D Se= condary Feedback 127 (equaling "Overdub")
>=3B
>=3B But it just = got to too much tap dancing =3B-)) And I noticed I often
>=3B need t= o dial in more precise Secondary Feedback values than those
>=3B four.= And four rapid clicks on a foot switch is kind of the upper
>=3B limi= t for how many functions you can stack on the same switch anyway.
>=3B=
>=3B Greetings from Sweden
>=3B
>=3B Per Boysen
>=3B= www.boysen.se
>=3B www.perboysen.com
>=3B www.looproom.com inter= net music hub
>=3B
= --_08d94845-8025-4fcd-9413-a1c7387fb328_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 21:57:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9F80183466; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6yF2u90r7o8grt7F3s91qCngdEXgldz0E1T0golVAtM=; b=jWhLZr451juet+4XFL8cctYG/FoGKJZpIuvFv718muyp2x6GT5ABT6GkkLyD99mPrm Pc3BxWFY96Bp8mdRVVojzwRDVCDBbdZ9KeWSo1DTSwhYqZOBLGlytlg6+Rm5Vl1JZheo lgh9vRSGsDJ62iooiOvTHdIoEi6XDMi7MmcxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=nBv0Opo7ouSnXeJfPoe9kCq9wulJb4d71xwRB6idtO15fzis5fYpjN2bDRIkLiBd2Z XZFs3sNy+mILpjfhywJ7Iw1uPddV+XKAyO28VFxx/Jb9l+7ecSO6ewGZf1pO8vrtKwu6 IkWDnjGjZD/eOYB6UsjkFhHQxWY/nDcoOSoMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:57:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I miss my Digitech PDS8000, any VST alternatives? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56612bf08b404a4c1b7db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1422 Lines: 40 --000e0cd56612bf08b404a4c1b7db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 augustus looper springs immediately to mind little spacey too? sim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Art Simon wrote: > I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of the > Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with that > wonderful 2 octave+ range? > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > --000e0cd56612bf08b404a4c1b7db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable augustus looper springs immediately to mind

little space= y too?

sim

On Thu,= Jun 2, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
I've got to say that all the discussion= on Bill Frisell's use of the Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any = good VST alternatives with that wonderful 2 octave+ range?

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--000e0cd56612bf08b404a4c1b7db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 22:02:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3221C18349C; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DE8088A.40907@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:02:50 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for May, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1745 Lines: 43 http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/top20-05may.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for May, 2011. Shows #735 to #738; 5-May-2011 to 26-May-2011 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for May was Rudy Adrian. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#may ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Barry Schrader - Beyond - Innova Darkened Soul - Bathys - Hypnos Secret Sounds Forrest Fang - Unbound - Projekt Hypnosphere - Magnetism - Spheric Ian Boddy - Pearl - DiN Ian Boddy and Parallel Worlds - Exit Strategy - DiN Jeffrey Koepper - Arctisonia - Air Space Papercutz - Do Outro Lado Do Espelho - Audiobulb Phobos - This Desolate Place - none Rainbow Serpent and Isgaard - Stranger - Manikin Remy - I-Dentity - Deserted Island/Ricochet Dream Rudy Adrian - Concerts in the USA - Groove Rudy Adrian - Moonwater - Lotuspike Rudy Adrian - Par Avion - Groove Unlimited Rudy Adrian - Twilight - none Sonogram - Cubists - Simulacra Steve Dinsdale - On the Other Side - Northern Echo Steve Roach and Brian Parnham - The Desert Inbetween - Projekt Various Artists - Sonic Frontiers I: Ambient Dreamscapes - Wayfarer Vic Hennegan - Field of Worlds and Mirrors - Alien Tribes Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 22:24:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7CA31834A0; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=tEINrOrJMwWo94TrSfbMoIy7hpzafK0jI/04pyKvqNo=; b=bOhWONS94y/EQEERiQE4eAmlFmR4g7uo/b9F/K97tgtkXCW7S/f/V2ibafecteZya0 Yv9SFLR8bdJEQQotxeADhaIWRVV5f7SyRP61MutQg/jXVs3r9inhModYodz8zCd1tBbb ZIN4nXTIzJ5k10g7dHLViEk+u0FeEQLdmBn6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=P4Ep3tQlJOH2AlUUlE1+GA4e5FEybwkWPE7p6ogqeDI+jMwj2zl8Rffq3d3e+Xhdcw LzuRF8AXY5Ylg1hhvYjioY9S/isC5K5/esFFOLJ7d4RfOPixkkMx1B/3EcZEr8PmD9GV idtfrwk1TwXst4E04t1D70fUswzpHjWuggvfc= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:24:32 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <9NR9bB.A.AAC.k2A6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3677 Lines: 78 How about using an ipod touch in one of those arm strap cases? Like the = ones runners use to listen to their music. Using some control software = you could quickly press some buttons on your arm?? I haven't tried it = myself yet though but it sounds like it could be a nice way to add a few = more controls right at your fingertips.\ Todd Matthews On Jun 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > What's your take on the ultimate question of finding a balance between > playing and controlling looper actions? >=20 > Personally my rig is set up with four stereo loopers in parallel. > Sometimes I create loops in all four to fade them in and out > seamlessly but other times I stick with only one channel and overdub > musical parts as new layers into the same loop, then typically > creating a bunch of (never more than five) alternative linear loops to > jump between as "A-B-C" song parts. >=20 > It was a year now since I skipped bringing a little MIDI hand mixer > and my recent live looping is all controlled by just one MIDI foot > pedalboard with ten switches and two expression pedal. However, I'm > now thinking of plugging in my old mini MIDI hand mixer again as well > as getting a third expression pedal in. I've been feeling > uncomfortable with the heavy "tap dancing" on the control pedals > needed for such a foot dependent control situation. I want to get back > to having most looper commands instantly available for both feet and > hands. My foot controller, the Gordius Little Giant 2, offers ten > switches in one bank and if you need to give a command that is > included in another bank you will have to first kick the bank change > switch, then kick the apart command, then kick the bank change switch > again in order to get back into the the bank where you are mostly > busy. Better than to stay in the fist bank and simply move one hand > off the instrument for two seconds to press a MIDI button on the side > table for the apart command. Or what? >=20 > The three expression pedals are for > 1) Looper Feedback, > 2) Live Audio Input Swell (manual fade-in/out, typically used to get a > soft violin-like note attack) combined with Freeze-reverb (in a > crossfade value manner). > 3) Activating tremolo stuttering of the (pre looper) Freeze-reverb and > sweep through rhythmic values between 1/4 note and 1/68 note. >=20 > The looper function I have been dissing for the last year is Feedback, > but I want to get back to it now with this third expression pedal. > It's nice to have the option do pieces that focus on only one loop, > using the feedback function as a sculpturing tool. >=20 > With the returning little hand mixer I'm getting back to controlling > the Mobius looper's Secondary Feedback globally from a robust hand > mixer fader. I use Secondary Feedback for Substitute, as a way to > control how much of the old audio layers will be kept vs thrown out > under a new slice I cut into the loop. I tried to replace this hand > control fader by a foot switch set up as >=20 > 1 click =3D Secondary Feedback 0 > 2 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 64 (my default) > 3 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 110 > 4 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 127 (equaling "Overdub") >=20 > But it just got to too much tap dancing ;-)) And I noticed I often > need to dial in more precise Secondary Feedback values than those > four. And four rapid clicks on a foot switch is kind of the upper > limit for how many functions you can stack on the same switch anyway. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 22:40:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7711C1834A4; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=K94MXAnH/uHsKiO5QxDwteETFl/9xkEDfqBjwLiH9khWLlresKT64UV+7qfhHrs2; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:39:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: I miss my Digitech PDS8000, any VST alternatives? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-905068092==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c7c59a25237cf62c95e984ad9651a4fb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2339 Lines: 80 --============_-905068092==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" +1 Augustus Loop, though I fell behind on the updates and it's been sitting in the scrap heap for a while... >augustus looper springs immediately to mind > >little spacey too? > > >sim > >On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Art Simon ><simart@gmail.com> wrote: > >I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of the >Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with >that wonderful 2 octave+ range? > >-- >Art Simon >simart@gmail.com >myspace [dot] com/artsimon -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-905068092==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: I miss my Digitech PDS8000, any VST alternatives?
+1 Augustus Loop, though I fell behind on the updates and it's been sitting in the scrap heap for a while...

augustus looper springs immediately to mind

little spacey too?

sim
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of the Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with that wonderful 2 octave+ range?

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Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon


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http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-905068092==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 22:43:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A1861834A9; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=faEiXG7P9l//mmUWdKQIYnPQ6+SPE5J9BJXIEZdKgfQ=; b=bTMARJ3Wug8ty/bYwwSzEiecKmcOFX4EfrqjoVNSM4rG2stBsVX4NawxtMZC41x1se 0JoX/A1f7V4OHinWIUfjHCCLFGvWhFxWgX/92Ph3fvDuKuHIMSMOYBG1w26Ibb2nTxlr I9H9v/Su2pRxFEp0xRfVNnIzzCD33IxHuTtJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DBYUmln2LL+mylJzdGqOhFQQmUJPcGfrvCOgUvhewA8YRwN32Z8CcJcQNumZ37mtdf uPaU280mgYZ3Hrhk9uEOW3r3Pb7sCfuFiw+aGAmjpZsscd7XYLFfAZlaR+cgCyTyRsXX yBiyU5pgu5APeYemsKZm+Bt4RDY/oZjiu8LYs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:43:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 588 Lines: 16 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > How about using an ipod touch in one of those arm strap cases? Good question! I'm curious about that too. Is anyone using touch screens yet? I imagine touch screens would be difficult for me to use in performance because I get distracted by having to look at stuff while playing. I like my physical faders because my fingers tell me the parameter value by just one quick touch, don't need to look at it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 2 22:53:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B90C1834A6; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=8a0RYWCqk6tFJfY/dBQw9nKJI7Uv0vRmlah2FS7G528=; b=If5sLaKAkGywpqUV+uov92ZdS+wELSjbKRiDnLeflS63aSpgJvk2+iexRmE5WlkWsS 8fITk3LS1lxm2S35tNsOHrFaSUHF+C8k3E+bYGtBaYZpGbZ6JCN6Pknn1WjnpF7TmvFt 9nk7q6fPBFHs0pQLazkTcg9Q1jdsNDWKQFtAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; b=ki/nnsnC56oSVyaF2TPi4AlV3fbWK5PvdbhC0nMFACp6ux1/cq69wqetLw27s7edzZ 8Z9sahq1InNmHWlrO7gMD5rZhq7LgKvnsBG9R7DtiPtoCgGpxZh3WqDWJ7bd9BZMixiq hKBIjmQojQUYrTnhU+LZXtMGMGmugfzR6Ie8A= Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? References: From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <5913402A-2138-4E3D-A099-CDF345AA162A@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:49:52 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 897 Lines: 27 I'm using an iPad mounted right in front of me on a mic stand to control Abl= eton. Works like charm. Also have a friend who uses his iPhone as Todd was s= uggesting.=20 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Todd Matthews wrot= e: >> How about using an ipod touch in one of those arm strap cases? >=20 > Good question! I'm curious about that too. Is anyone using touch screens y= et? >=20 > I imagine touch screens would be difficult for me to use in > performance because I get distracted by having to look at stuff while > playing. I like my physical faders because my fingers tell me the > parameter value by just one quick touch, don't need to look at it. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 02:19:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2342183473; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 02:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1PHZs8m7wdAJVbfbkHBHFstoYvHqDTkZYYG9Ub5JXiM=; b=nl4VKExuzwhdkU+LlNlHKbN5446Y3nq1G29bN2tvLoFOzhukTVFZXj99RHP+dNAh9x 0TEH1U88SDA5vLt+BPEhnNFQpT97fYd5AproVbW1vA2KX0jilffmfU+o809/4AxiJJH7 OAZxKCZdzaGWktlwrKxzn0YL2TIRs9G0XRFME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iDWFLhdvoVk9C0X5UnD3lzOEQto28Zf1bGhm9FQKzb5rhP7FYwF4VW2+T25/YMHh2R DaPaIId1ZdpTMjmvo5lojOn250n/upELJBnSZ+mxDv7LUCiH5tWKwm+PltKk7reJ4vwu fK1Eh14nukX20/+Haed/TYLpLwCj5slSd4l7E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:19:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: frisell/pds8000-alternatives... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c5f5a3395e04a4c560f2 Resent-Message-ID: <5SqAJD.A.FkE.ZSE6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 02:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4889 Lines: 102 --00504502c5f5a3395e04a4c560f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 re:">I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of the >Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with >that wonderful 2 octave+ range?" i will put a vote in for my pigtronix echolution-the modulated delay has 12 sec. it is the closest thing i've heard on a "hardware pedal" that can do what frisell is doing w/ his pds8000. i'm still sort of amazed that digitech has never redone this pedal. their jamman pedals seem to just go the route of the boss loop stations. which i guess is all the rage.... seems everyone is going software now....w/ all the problems i have at home w/ computer and at work w/ computers, i'm not sure if i'd put my money on relying on one for creating things live....granted i know hardware stuff can fail too & break, but i guess i'm old school... the echolution is not a perfect recreation-it is more going for the "echoplex tape" model of delay. if you set it long, and spin the dial to shorten the time, you get the high pitched munchkin sound going fast, or if you play a couple of notes on a short delay and spin the other way to lengthen it-it gets all low and growley....i love it. and if you switch the loop switch you can capture what you're doing and it plays infinately---w/ the loop switch off it acts more like a tape delay and fades (can go to oscilate mode too). the pedal has it's limitations-12 sec (supposedly 20 sec w/ tap tempo-haven't figured that out yet-requires READING! i love the 12 sec and knob for manipulating the time too much), and since it's based on "tape sound" the repeats are not crystal clear like on the pds or a digital delay...but i find it sounds great, and inspiring pedal....love the limitations.... from vids i watched when i debated my purchase-it appears the eventide timefactor in it's 12 sec of loop mode can do similar things w/ speed, it was the other pedal i debated and watched endless vids on, when i had some money from pedal sales. i just ended up pulling the trigger on the echolution...don't regret it at all. s--- www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn --00504502c5f5a3395e04a4c560f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
re:">I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frise= ll's use of the
>Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VS= T alternatives with
>that wonderful 2 octave+ range?"
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i will put a vote in for my pigtronix echolution-the modulated delay h= as 12 sec. it is the closest thing i've heard
on a "hardware pedal" that can do what frisell is doing w/ h= is pds8000.
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i'm still sort of amazed that digitech has never redone this pedal= . their jamman pedals seem to just go the route of the boss loop stations.<= /div>
which i guess is all the rage....
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seems everyone is going software now....w/ all the problems i have at = home w/ computer and at work w/ computers, i'm not sure if i'd put =
my money on relying on one for creating things live....granted i know = hardware stuff can fail too & break, but i guess i'm old school...<= /div>
=A0
the echolution is not a perfect recreation-it is more going for the &q= uot;echoplex tape" model of delay. if you set it long, and spin the di= al to shorten
the time, you get the high pitched munchkin sound going fast, or if yo= u play a couple of notes on a short delay and spin the other way to lengthe= n
it-it gets all low and growley....i love it. and if you switch the loo= p switch you can capture what you're doing and it plays infinately---w/= the loop switch off
it acts more like a tape delay and fades (can go to oscilate mode too)= . the pedal has it's limitations-12 sec (supposedly 20 sec w/ tap tempo= -haven't figured that
out yet-requires READING! i love the 12 sec and knob for manipulating = the time too much), and since it's based on "tape sound" the = repeats are not crystal
clear like on the pds or a digital delay...but i find it sounds great,= and inspiring pedal....love the limitations....
=A0
from vids i watched when i debated my purchase-it=A0 appears the event= ide timefactor in it's 12 sec of loop mode can do similar things w/ spe= ed, it was the other
pedal i debated and watched endless vids on, when i had some money fro= m pedal sales. i just ended up pulling the trigger on the echolution...don&= #39;t regret it at all.
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--00504502c5f5a3395e04a4c560f2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 03:00:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADF0E183462; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 03:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:00:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <79K5TD.A.09E.c5E6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 03:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1347 Lines: 20 hey Per, I don't know if you have the latest firmware upgrade for your LG but I highly recommend it if you don't, currently I use one expression pedal for feedback and one for volume and then I have two extra momentary switches so that each of my banks has 12 presets. I can now expand to a total of 14 preset switches per bank because each of the aux jacks 1 and 2 can now accept a trs cable to accomodate two extra switches each. I have been using roland fsu switches for a long time as they are relatively quiet and durable, though bespeco makes a decent equivalent. I had a smaller two button footswitch made by loopmaster, but that turned in to a bit of a fiasco as I had to have a local tech isolate the ground on each switch to be compatible with the LG's new firmware. man i lost a few hours and hairs trying to figure that one out (with Xaviers help bless his heart), why my switches suddenly were not working with my newly pimped LG. I've recently been considering using some kind of small I phone controller that Rick has offered to loan me and one of those Missing link midi adapters Hans is making, though I'm not sold on the idea of mounting it on an instrument or that my failng eye sight will want to put up with it:-) I've seen this little mixer of yours I think, who makes it again? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 03:07:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EC9C183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 03:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-198267424 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:07:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 03:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1744 Lines: 39 --Apple-Mail-2-198267424 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd M said, How about using an ipod touch in one of those arm strap cases? yes thats what I was thinking about and actually the wrist thingy would be a possible solution though I would prefer some kind of stand mount in easy reach, the wrist thing could be a bit constricting though, if only they could only build a mount in to the brim of a ball cap, then I could just use my tongue......... Bill --Apple-Mail-2-198267424 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd M = said,
How about using an ipod = touch in one of those arm strap cases?
 yes thats what I was thinking about and actually the wrist = thingy would be a possible solution though I would prefer some kind of = stand mount in easy reach, the wrist thing could be a bit constricting = though, if only they could only build a mount in to the brim of a ball = cap, then I could just use my tongue.........
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2-198267424-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 07:15:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACF5B183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:15:27 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1648 Lines: 41 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > It was a year now since I skipped bringing a little MIDI hand mixer > and my recent live looping is all controlled by just one MIDI foot > pedalboard with ten switches and two expression pedal. However, I'm > now thinking of plugging in my old mini MIDI hand mixer again as well > as getting a third expression pedal in. I've been feeling > uncomfortable with the heavy "tap dancing" on the control pedals > needed for such a foot dependent control situation. Hey Per, I don't know if you have an iPhone, iTouch or an iPad or not, but with Hans Lindauers' brilliant new "Missing Link" (miniscule wireless OSC to Midi converter box) and the TouchOSC app on one of these hand helds makes for a very powerful portable wireless controller. You could, literally, velcro an iPhone to a Sax, Stick or Guitar and be able to control loops after the fact wirelessly. And, for some odd reason...........I find that hand controlling of things just looks better on stage than tap dancing on pedals. I don't know why that is, but I've asked several non-performers about that and they agree... .....why would that be? I suppose it's because our hands are so much more controllable than our feet and most of civilization was built using the hands, as opposed to the feet. Other thoughts? disagreements with my take on it? this subject just fascinates me. Here's another one: Tapping with your toe on stage looks dorky...............tapping with your heel looks funky (as any self respecting professional fun musician about this little trick of the trade.......lol) Why? Weird. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 07:52:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F48B183460; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 619223110/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An0CAECS6E1V0rNB/2dsb2JhbAAMICeYGtpogw+DEgSVLosA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,314,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="619223110" Message-ID: <4DE892C5.5070407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:52:37 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 484 Lines: 15 Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi Per, > I reckon it's ok to tap dance sometimes, yep, don't be such a wimp andy ps. With the new v3 software it's going to be much easier to switch banks on the Gordius range. I think it's already possible to in V2 to work around the limitations you mentioned using "dependency rules", but in V3 it'll be dead easy to have a switch on your 'secondary' bank take you automatically back to any bank you want automatically (after completing it's function) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 07:55:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D77FD183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Awdr87s1nVxnSbvlgBZ27Qg5Hsas9Qt3WwTFEDJxLMQ=; b=CqqoHy0NLz4bNV56A/2h9yZEietdHON0jWJ7w5r5ZDQ5J7WoDYjn12hCg3qsDR5eKm S+DLCIJSfhXIvohvwC+XapWeZ9wZ3ACKoYNaR7mg1wWqgPTfl+Rm7Q7+MKOSWwtP2WBZ 2bpj8ihu/Q7ZzCjLYzHlYLM0V/rE5ZMSOY8LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OrF1VfOlSu/+joasM63mzjRoiZ/D8xN5Jw809RogFsR32LEq82DyMciug07Q/BCwiH 56Zq1BNEd0aClMqET3UXejpAS+SZ8OYCJcEdEEUpE8M62U2cfBPWKLQ3ZBfoEOQtOyGW mVibYI/jQKdrqB1/obMHmt+HXeeOn4G6718bI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:54:46 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VvJZo3QMU4GeehFTaJoj7xWkCy8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5299ef56a1c7204a4ca1235 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6078 Lines: 129 --bcaec5299ef56a1c7204a4ca1235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > And, for some odd reason...........I find that hand controlling of things > just looks better on stage > than tap dancing on pedals. I don't know why that is, but I've asked > several non-performers about that > and they agree... > > .....why would that be? I suppose it's because our hands are so much > more controllable than our feet > and most of civilization was built using the hands, as opposed to the feet. > I think this totally depends, personally I think people using weird hand help devices or add-ons looks cool as hell, but then, Im a gear freak... But for most people its the music that counts and playing (or controlling) music from a pocket calculator, or a plastic talking duck or an iPhone or an IR sensor beam, is just gimmickry. I can understand that if you care that the people who are watching you loop KNOW that you created all this noise from scratch, no backing tracks, that maybe using a hand held (visible) device, will make it more obvious to the audience. Where a subtle click of a footswitch will not be noticed. However, I come from a world that doesnt care about whether the music is totally live or not, and I certainly dont care if people didnt get that I created it all from scratch. If they want to go home thinking I made some cool music from pre-recorded loops, that OK by me! I think a better way of looking at it is what interface works for you, and does this interface create new musical possibilities. I think that the iphone/pad does definately add some new things, but weirdly, my experiments with an XY controller in TouchOSC, mapped to various paremeters in Live and AudioMulch, actually resulted in me buying 2 Kaos Pads, rather than going the software route, I still like to experiment with software, but prefer making music with hardware. As for tap dancing pedals not looking good... maybe not, but falling to your knees and manipulating those pedals by hand (Like Radiohead and numerous noise bands I love) looks cool as hell... Anyway, I still find that semi-naked dancing girls is by far the best thing to invest in in terms of visual entertainment during a looping show.. :-) Mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec5299ef56a1c7204a4ca1235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
And, for some odd reason...........I find that hand contro= lling of things just looks better on stage
than tap dancing on pedals. =A0 I don't know why that is, but I've = asked several non-performers about that
and they agree...

.....why would that be? =A0 =A0 I suppose it's because our hands are so= much more controllable than our feet
and most of civilization was built using the hands, as opposed to the feet.=

I think this totally depends, personally I thi= nk people using weird hand help devices or add-ons looks cool as hell, but = then, Im a gear freak...
But for most people its the music that counts and playing (or controlling) = music from a pocket calculator, or a plastic talking duck or an iPhone or a= n IR sensor beam, is just gimmickry.

I can understand that if you ca= re that the people who are watching you loop KNOW that you created all this= noise from scratch, no backing tracks, that maybe using a hand held (visib= le) device, will make it more obvious to the audience. Where a subtle click= of a footswitch will not be noticed.

However, I come from a world that doesnt care about whether the music i= s totally live or not, and I certainly dont care if people didnt get that I= created it all from scratch. If they want to go home thinking I made some = cool music from pre-recorded loops, that OK by me!

I think a better way of looking at it is what interface works for you, = and does this interface create new musical possibilities. I think that the = iphone/pad does definately add some new things, but weirdly, my experiments= with an XY controller in TouchOSC, mapped to various paremeters in Live an= d AudioMulch, actually resulted in me buying 2 Kaos Pads, rather than going= the software route, I still like to experiment with software, but prefer m= aking music with hardware.

As for tap dancing pedals not looking good... maybe not, but falling to= your knees and manipulating those pedals by hand (Like Radiohead and numer= ous noise bands I love) looks cool as hell...

Anyway, I still find t= hat semi-naked dancing girls is by far the best thing to invest in in terms= of visual entertainment during a looping show..


:-)

Mark


--
Mark= Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--bcaec5299ef56a1c7204a4ca1235-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 08:05:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47CAE183465; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=u5wua9F7gfpPJ+VugN2YS4k6GZGjZDL0OZr5v0q0ttU=; b=f3CatGY8jw8uCAOrxf8UYr1zRMzGVX9wYAaTYCdPCwY4jKDHxcCodmFMALClLgc1K9 XsErdBfJPlGdOgKp3N6IJLL4r1AN4gjzB9PFf49/lm2AGQl8WswF12Q/gZnKbLX6VcQm BVsA0OIABAx1IbbyGxVk39iDmzDggcTn1bUKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YTQu0AR6wCXqYBRhdxJE2dCN6nWy6iSbKLcy1gXSEGkShODQ4ybAl2QKdVZEEzNq12 Hr8Sc2s4ESubKrZADvaN9EOzAfEkwsNdbKTNfNx99X6hTIvveUqMmX+YoPAJfYMLq+M+ flWF4xA8geAwhu9Eu7T7bLa/nIIIz5vHYaoUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:05:26 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ss70UJFJju4OfeJUxm-6bXxcCN4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6143fa8fd97604a4ca38af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2837 Lines: 72 --90e6ba6143fa8fd97604a4ca38af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That said, I should mention that Hans=B4box looks COOL AS FUCK and I am definately getting one... Heres the url if anyone missed it http://www.wifimidi.com Cos actually the name says it all... its NOT for computer musicians, becaus= e then you have a wifi/network source, no... its for hardware people that wan= t to control their hardware from an iPhone/pad! I am, for instance, planning on using it as a control surface, to control 8 parameters in my TC fireworx. But I dont have one yet (Im broke as HELL right now... people, PLEEEEASE go and buy music or art from me, so I can buy Hans box!) But will report when I do... BTW, prinbting a skull on the box... pure genius, was the "must have" desig= n feature for me!! --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6143fa8fd97604a4ca38af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That said, I should mention that Hans=B4box looks COOL AS FUCK and I am def= inately getting one...

Heres the url if anyone missed it
http://www.wifimidi.com

Cos actual= ly the name says it all... its NOT for computer musicians, because then you= have a wifi/network source, no... its for hardware people that want to con= trol their hardware from an iPhone/pad!

I am, for instance, planning on using it as a control surface, to contr= ol 8 parameters in my TC fireworx.

But I dont have one yet (Im brok= e as HELL right now... people, PLEEEEASE go and buy music or art from me, s= o I can buy Hans box!)

But will report when I do...

BTW, prinbting a skull on the box..= . pure genius, was the "must have" design feature for me!!

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--90e6ba6143fa8fd97604a4ca38af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:06:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6F37183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F6DzMu3DQXSiDYBdPAL7N+rAH8DuqxY3v8v7G4C1y1E=; b=cvkAwpFTZWVhx7yvoxmZ4ji27g3/5Wccp4LAd0GnmBYkW3/WPPSr3ScrwyZtsebMxG 1DzxW92htB2LcxLxd99I3EksCoPKAbFmdN6GWf1O3DfbFmhCOmMXazukEnHX6LqJxs2c fhiSMcWPDshtLvBd3oqC5ujjOHZHxk7dgoh60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=r9LvGEGtaO585J/Rnj2AVfgT/o833MP3F3wZaJ+RL9ma0GB2gxtI44moABv8WCQlYW i7WikLBiI87uTLJxDD54xMnHm2PU5SnmA3Bf9NcLNmY4ekZOXMEgeQ55gkSfM8W18xLI NQNLqVO2jptGBeJdocM4zoNlzPBdQOqqGeZd4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:06:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2sCCNC.A.Hd.BQK6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2460 Lines: 60 Hi Bill, Yes, I have the LG2 which is the latest firmware. But there is a new firmware coming up soon, I have learned at the LG Users list, and I will definitely get that as soon as it is safe. Only then can my present patches be imported into the new Mac editor for Little Gordius. Yes, I too use some LG patches that temporarily sets the expression pedals to control something else. I used that on the Behfinger FCB 1010s as well. I even use virtual "FCB switches" - and this is a great tip - so that whenever I switch bank on my LG this firtual FCB switch sets my looper back to full feedback. This way I can trash around with feedback pumping pedal and not having to worry about forgetting it at a too low value, resulting in my loop dying away as I play. The little hand mixer I use is from FaderFox, a German company. Looks like: http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:00 AM, William Walker wro= te: > hey Per, I don't know if you have the latest firmware upgrade for your LG > but I highly recommend it if you don't, currently I use one expression pe= dal > for feedback =C2=A0and one for volume and then I have two extra momentary > switches so that each of my banks has 12 presets. I can now expand to a > total of 14 preset switches per bank because each of the aux jacks 1 and = 2 > =C2=A0can now accept a trs cable to accomodate two extra switches each. I= have > been using roland fsu switches for a long time as they are relatively qui= et > and durable, though bespeco makes a decent equivalent. I had a smaller tw= o > button footswitch made by loopmaster, but that turned in to a bit of a > fiasco as I had to have a local tech isolate the ground on each switch to= be > compatible with the LG's new firmware. man i lost a few hours and hairs > trying to figure that one out (with Xaviers help bless his heart), why my > switches suddenly were not working with my newly pimped LG. =C2=A0I've re= cently > been considering using some kind of small I phone controller that Rick ha= s > offered to loan me and one of those Missing link midi adapters Hans is > making, though I'm not sold on the idea of mounting it on an instrument o= r > that my failng eye sight will want to put up with it:-) I've seen this > little mixer of yours I think, who makes it again? > =C2=A0Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:15:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 462F8183465; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bnPm4b9ATyl9bMfZFuHgVUV8Q8M82jEPTFgJpkeH6zs=; b=xImOqMk2HvfM7bhHYYfODURcE5b8339PnrNSYYIPrNWWI7rKpK4yVfiyBVMLNqGHSH Rw6gmWMm/GQF1q1lBMoZLIwN2cszZdYxsOCRKb3+CsFQGexKL2WyHAytb/qUzUIOr22b PR8mlyRxnWvIKljbKMQpmPkglxbHb9z/AbfPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e6mJNClEOSSDcayvLC33fePgwEG4u4v5sQDUGksWqIOSC47gXswosqX3BB6etMjD+y mo1np6D4Mo/XwTMw7owNFcK7BYQ7ayrHd/1Thtm/nJRpOQim+2piGGgeSgoxWEFr7wT9 soLGRtnBZemP5Lb8bUAQkGRbyoZBLXmKMkAjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:15:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1128 Lines: 31 > Todd M said, > How about using an ipod touch in one of those arm strap cases? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:07 AM, William Walker wro= te: > =C2=A0yes thats what I was thinking about and actually the wrist thingy w= ould be > a possible solution though I would prefer some kind of stand mount in eas= y > reach, the wrist thing could be a bit constricting though, if only they > could only build a mount in to the brim of a ball cap, then I could just = use > my tongue......... One cool function in the iPhone is that you can shake it (like the Wii Remote). Now THAT is where the iPhone starts getting interesting for a performing musician! Not allowing very sophisticated control but no matter how many strings you are busy pulling with ten fingers, there will always be room for shaking a leg or two! ;-) (Two legs shaking control only available for armchair performers. Stand-up players have to limit their two-leg-shaking to those short passing-through-the-air periods during high stage jumps) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:18:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4471183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 625869691/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.120/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.120 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An0CALGl6E1YbRF4/2dsb2JhbAAMR5ga20+GIQSVLosA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,314,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="625869691" Message-ID: <4DE8A6DB.40906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:18:19 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I miss my Digitech PDS8000, any VST alternatives? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 359 Lines: 16 Do you have a feature list? from the device, or from your personal preference. I do have a vst varispeed delay that I'm going to make available. andy at Mathons Art Simon wrote: > I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of the > Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with that > wonderful 2 octave+ range? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:26:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DAF0183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=s6HoMIAF3mrw9xqAswqYi28xlwwkqf3yqO8GvlJAbwA=; b=DGrIh0JRsR40Jyou5yJTkSge13zOyBkBluviJiAjC7OZWc719ZOyCpUGkiUFeQLJmT IFOVwyzLlPhtW0LEQFlOkBwedc8fzWtVApm5B+Io8rNB0RBTsuxtETItV9blYwZvpo5p 6upXDZ4mizTE46QFBUSyqqY70JQlgZJQsE/Vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=W4QbqZiwh+Qx7+Kiy2iyrPfJyjQ6jxHSfyImA3HZjczev/+8WBwn2aQBbowSdEAJH4 Pxg5X4uWL/Rs842DQmUBOnA6DnfeEBkIqOqQ+IaW2+4r6GBaX0BqmxsLIqxijcvK+GUm +GM2Mq6LCUuuIXV3s29lSKpMWcr4sgtCyl71g= References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:25:43 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3868 Lines: 84 NanoKontrol, I'd say; but you still have your handy mixer that can do more, I= think. Cheap, light and easy to program. I own an iPhone since 2 years now and sometime I use it for music in live s= ituation but I'm not attracted by using it as a controller.=20 I do think its display is too small, if you need a lot of midi controls. Sur= e, iPad is better in that domain. Me too don't like to concentrate my sight on screens while I play: better ha= ving an easy access to your controller so you don't have to break your music= al fluxus. -f www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 02/giu/2011, alle ore 22:15, Per Boysen ha s= critto: > What's your take on the ultimate question of finding a balance between > playing and controlling looper actions? >=20 > Personally my rig is set up with four stereo loopers in parallel. > Sometimes I create loops in all four to fade them in and out > seamlessly but other times I stick with only one channel and overdub > musical parts as new layers into the same loop, then typically > creating a bunch of (never more than five) alternative linear loops to > jump between as "A-B-C" song parts. >=20 > It was a year now since I skipped bringing a little MIDI hand mixer > and my recent live looping is all controlled by just one MIDI foot > pedalboard with ten switches and two expression pedal. However, I'm > now thinking of plugging in my old mini MIDI hand mixer again as well > as getting a third expression pedal in. I've been feeling > uncomfortable with the heavy "tap dancing" on the control pedals > needed for such a foot dependent control situation. I want to get back > to having most looper commands instantly available for both feet and > hands. My foot controller, the Gordius Little Giant 2, offers ten > switches in one bank and if you need to give a command that is > included in another bank you will have to first kick the bank change > switch, then kick the apart command, then kick the bank change switch > again in order to get back into the the bank where you are mostly > busy. Better than to stay in the fist bank and simply move one hand > off the instrument for two seconds to press a MIDI button on the side > table for the apart command. Or what? >=20 > The three expression pedals are for > 1) Looper Feedback, > 2) Live Audio Input Swell (manual fade-in/out, typically used to get a > soft violin-like note attack) combined with Freeze-reverb (in a > crossfade value manner). > 3) Activating tremolo stuttering of the (pre looper) Freeze-reverb and > sweep through rhythmic values between 1/4 note and 1/68 note. >=20 > The looper function I have been dissing for the last year is Feedback, > but I want to get back to it now with this third expression pedal. > It's nice to have the option do pieces that focus on only one loop, > using the feedback function as a sculpturing tool. >=20 > With the returning little hand mixer I'm getting back to controlling > the Mobius looper's Secondary Feedback globally from a robust hand > mixer fader. I use Secondary Feedback for Substitute, as a way to > control how much of the old audio layers will be kept vs thrown out > under a new slice I cut into the loop. I tried to replace this hand > control fader by a foot switch set up as >=20 > 1 click =3D Secondary Feedback 0 > 2 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 64 (my default) > 3 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 110 > 4 clicks =3D Secondary Feedback 127 (equaling "Overdub") >=20 > But it just got to too much tap dancing ;-)) And I noticed I often > need to dial in more precise Secondary Feedback values than those > four. And four rapid clicks on a foot switch is kind of the upper > limit for how many functions you can stack on the same switch anyway. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:36:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92980183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+V1pwhD/fHghf7EtVOihmYwIvTYOlkk1V/fC9KTQ8vw=; b=IRYfI583Q8Agh5GFDTsro4w2sFVf8Eu8I+KI8mFCwNL4q8WvuQ7NRsPjYYpDcZJTrU lkwQ/1mfUFIAmZcxug/DdZkLCbB8jPrgUuOgZgbK6Uiv4a3cit5Wr1ft4NI0IKRqkchH 8M74Bx3xNPu8mzuBk9U/WyP3PAx9hX5nrquIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=SaC9X3TgsTiJ2lSgjSaoO4Sjco29Km7OAAeOH8BVBlXc9YupnYeRu4UD71WFSpU2np trnFIqNePQ197XAk2a/faLHis3VU4s6UoEuyBXfnb8YEJ+rVRvgc5Wd8IfEq9zyy1WqA zfS6rZi9vdsn4V+TVBIVsfRZ4qVsYw6EQ0GGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:36:03 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: trqfxT9PpaaXCAHBLWhmtjUmJME Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6143faa341c004a4cb7cea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3244 Lines: 78 --90e6ba6143faa341c004a4cb7cea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > > > I do think its display is too small, if you need a lot of midi controls. > Sure, iPad is better in that domain. > Me too don't like to concentrate my sight on screens while I play: better > having an easy access to your controller so you don't have to break your > musical fluxus. > > I agree Fabio, that is why I have pretty much stuck to using the iPhones XY pad as the controller and the accelerometer function... But to peer at that tiny screen and figure out where to press mid gig .. with MY eyesight.. is = a nightmare... Im sure you remember my performance at YK10.. (you were sat right in front ha ha) god I hated staring at my laptop thruout the gig... You can=B4t beat a nice big knob, is what I say... and I dare anyone to comment on that... m --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6143faa341c004a4cb7cea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Fabio_A= <eterogenus@g= mail.com> wrote:


I do think its display is too small, if you need a lot of midi controls. Su= re, iPad is better in that domain.
Me too don't like to concentrate my sight on screens while I play: bett= er having an easy access to your controller so you don't have to break = your musical fluxus.


I agree Fabio, that is wh= y I have pretty much stuck to using the iPhones XY pad as the controller an= d the accelerometer function... But to peer at that tiny screen and figure = out where to press mid gig .. with MY eyesight.. is a nightmare... Im sure = you remember my performance at YK10.. (you were sat right in front ha ha) g= od I hated staring at my laptop thruout the gig...

You can=B4t beat a nice big knob, is what I say... and I dare anyone to= comment on that...
=A0

m

--
<= u>Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6143faa341c004a4cb7cea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:45:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C7A8183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rEHF+ghSmjE7XKBOLlYzAeZTo2YSORte/V/w3Tz0FlI=; b=MJcAFEFIzCRKbo9eka+nJOa5L5bpvRwKBR4RlmLR82BGblmOHkfCIxfRZL7S8cq2Qx GUXoIealePP70M3jS6s/+zIOuByIe2GiM2FpQjlOCXEyIOOTvyBgnD28W4K6WYQpUDPD UKphHJ6NSSc579+UD9IOOx38a1vbsiA9cPFgQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wZlJUVHWIDz5NyFNgOd0022RP30RgNsH9eaijJNQ7N2Q2es5r+2/ZsgglD/b418tuh OV7tBntZO4u1M6lRr2Ohq3XQD4EGhJamPgm6Obl3NBNy7uPmxx/r5Oi7eWrMh0H6N2bz anMj/BfFAOAQYesLZkhQBLccbulBb40/Z39Uc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:44:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 947 Lines: 19 I think smooth performance logistics is another very important factor when deciding on a live looping strategy! Simply put: you don't want to bore people off before you get to the point ;-)) I put fist priorities in setting my rig up in a way that you can instantly make an interesting sound form the first note. What this means to me at a tech detail level is having some kind of instant pre-loop effect that can freeze a chunk of sound you might play; opening the option to play over it or record it into a loop. Or just giving you a few seconds to plan ahead what music to come up with next. One may also think about nifty ways do generate two, or more, musical parts from the same played sound. Example: catching live sound into a temporarily detuned loop, to be tuned back later on and then bring out the fresh audio as a slightly different musical part than the audience heard you play in the first place at during the looping stage. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:46:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44580183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4rfz4vutx5ygTOdk0s3LDb9deDCoi6D1XtYZGwwUqZ8=; b=s0PuF2zpGmc1Dhbo0JdombecdJNw8JfjEW4hUaxE3J1WHlOvO4QspyMo0MZWTj1ujq uuPXHnem2ZH+XLPQbXeDEHaMxuSUyLAOg8l3eD1ITXbyQE6MUt7+GotXZC14gFidZ6Z9 Wyje/tXqGRcCd2T0gG30ejktl6vr/6JO1QGNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wwmEoJbEOmbne6w12/gIoZKhL4y8orZ7TcbpS+AfLNguFfU7xTWvaTWznCjwZ2FBXU hqdxkJdR1bQAKdQN/BOZb0ZjEeLps1cXY06yTMQyWXFmlR1ML6CA8TfUkuDOteBMqd8I 5glKn1PTw6lAGwTTWbPMmbDPzhTMtQBjD/ccc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:46:16 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: frisell/pds8000-alternatives... From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773e43400482d04a4cba0a1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6190 Lines: 138 --00151773e43400482d04a4cba0a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm so with you Scott on not-going-the-computer-route. Recently I have seen two gigs get ruined with problems with mac book pro and ableton live. And the most important thing is I want to use these machines AS LITTLE as possible. Mimimized my computer-time to one hour a day nowadays. -Petri- 2011/6/3 Scott Hansen > re:">I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of the > >Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with > >that wonderful 2 octave+ range?" > > i will put a vote in for my pigtronix echolution-the modulated delay has 12 > sec. it is the closest thing i've heard > on a "hardware pedal" that can do what frisell is doing w/ his pds8000. > > i'm still sort of amazed that digitech has never redone this pedal. their > jamman pedals seem to just go the route of the boss loop stations. > which i guess is all the rage.... > > seems everyone is going software now....w/ all the problems i have at home > w/ computer and at work w/ computers, i'm not sure if i'd put > my money on relying on one for creating things live....granted i know > hardware stuff can fail too & break, but i guess i'm old school... > > the echolution is not a perfect recreation-it is more going for the > "echoplex tape" model of delay. if you set it long, and spin the dial to > shorten > the time, you get the high pitched munchkin sound going fast, or if you > play a couple of notes on a short delay and spin the other way to lengthen > it-it gets all low and growley....i love it. and if you switch the loop > switch you can capture what you're doing and it plays infinately---w/ the > loop switch off > it acts more like a tape delay and fades (can go to oscilate mode too). the > pedal has it's limitations-12 sec (supposedly 20 sec w/ tap tempo-haven't > figured that > out yet-requires READING! i love the 12 sec and knob for manipulating the > time too much), and since it's based on "tape sound" the repeats are not > crystal > clear like on the pds or a digital delay...but i find it sounds great, and > inspiring pedal....love the limitations.... > > from vids i watched when i debated my purchase-it appears the eventide > timefactor in it's 12 sec of loop mode can do similar things w/ speed, it > was the other > pedal i debated and watched endless vids on, when i had some money from > pedal sales. i just ended up pulling the trigger on the echolution...don't > regret it at all. > s--- > www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773e43400482d04a4cba0a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm so with you Scott on not-going-the-computer-route.
Recently I ha= ve seen two gigs get ruined with problems with mac book pro and ableton liv= e.

And the most important thing is I want to use these machines AS L= ITTLE as possible.
Mimimized my computer-time to one hour a day nowadays.

-Petri-
2011/6/3 Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>
re:">= ;I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of t= he
>Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with
= >that wonderful 2 octave+ range?"
=A0
i will put a vote in for my pigtronix echolution-the modulated delay h= as 12 sec. it is the closest thing i've heard
on a "hardware pedal" that can do what frisell is doing w/ h= is pds8000.
=A0
i'm still sort of amazed that digitech has never redone this pedal= . their jamman pedals seem to just go the route of the boss loop stations.<= /div>
which i guess is all the rage....
=A0
seems everyone is going software now....w/ all the problems i have at = home w/ computer and at work w/ computers, i'm not sure if i'd put =
my money on relying on one for creating things live....granted i know = hardware stuff can fail too & break, but i guess i'm old school...<= /div>
=A0
the echolution is not a perfect recreation-it is more going for the &q= uot;echoplex tape" model of delay. if you set it long, and spin the di= al to shorten
the time, you get the high pitched munchkin sound going fast, or if yo= u play a couple of notes on a short delay and spin the other way to lengthe= n
it-it gets all low and growley....i love it. and if you switch the loo= p switch you can capture what you're doing and it plays infinately---w/= the loop switch off
it acts more like a tape delay and fades (can go to oscilate mode too)= . the pedal has it's limitations-12 sec (supposedly 20 sec w/ tap tempo= -haven't figured that
out yet-requires READING! i love the 12 sec and knob for manipulating = the time too much), and since it's based on "tape sound" the = repeats are not crystal
clear like on the pds or a digital delay...but i find it sounds great,= and inspiring pedal....love the limitations....
=A0
from vids i watched when i debated my purchase-it=A0 appears the event= ide timefactor in it's 12 sec of loop mode can do similar things w/ spe= ed, it was the other
pedal i debated and watched endless vids on, when i had some money fro= m pedal sales. i just ended up pulling the trigger on the echolution...don&= #39;t regret it at all.
s---
=A0
=A0



--
Petri Lahtinen

<= a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petril= ahtinen.com

--00151773e43400482d04a4cba0a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:47:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CA06183475; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gJjQFskHOFrIaxph4yDNZOmsoOM0m/hR8OjhrEZpNFk=; b=dlIqmI96XPJvrv/9+Iv0UWqzqbK4AfBPQQTe5V0aWG3EPmhkj74BNwnlK2+W8lX8f9 m9FVresfvAr9/+M9ZkgTsFho4zzdHxt4rMaH5VSEPFz7PjKd1LlnRJ2i9Pb0sKAlyOpG OKdWZc+OVUFuJ68IL3PvHjxkKhzYhd30mIA2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wu22jLTp8O0ZJHKyMPdSWcmFulmEkhjW08ovxtFj25xlvSQxfEYe6pkLDx3r7rdSF3 SI9JaRK/wEmBl0KiRYwo5G7hqfspBbalTbgy/krRB2wn9wb7ueY7A/ppjYiCvb8GXYVg jmWlHDZIIIcEk0XP7TBlpRcyIH1xKaXvM88ps= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:47:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 186 Lines: 7 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:36 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > You can=C2=B4t beat a nice big knob, is what I say... and I dare anyone t= o > comment on that... +1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 09:52:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A390118348A; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ei+f+4X43lyczxcriFzB2migs6PRo8FftnnDt5lmSR8=; b=To64pSfmyALyAFQ2e62fOG7ztaDpvx/8voA4Vj5NMyCtp8yUUxIJ5yK6x60DZ+6yUs aMgFrSYNnIBX7l6EPvmToBQwVrK7gpVwIS0DKTzLLWdiRFZGOM32pVPQDt4Zqn5RfEGI tKd472jYnklvCJZJZHBXNmSfpCRn0HpmNJ+R8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Sg20zYzfdh6bvAcVBgUguX9nMva6meOfVo+IcDX7sTgmsdqV0rr75s9fvQq5LXx9a3 q15u9MLv/GUv3WwOgUZqy0shFxGpcEfUEDlGsyaa6UF7ukYUCtQz5WTrS89bqkis1Oay gSjo9sLqqNh3uLvjGqvE5DXUlhJDg1jnfRkm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:52:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: frisell/pds8000-alternatives... From: alessandro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e25683fa6a04a4cbb6a2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5591 Lines: 122 --00151750e25683fa6a04a4cbb6a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Digitech RDS-8000 rack unit? I've spotted a NOS one for 50 euros, just wondering... Ciao! 2011/6/3 Scott Hansen > re:">I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of the > >Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with > >that wonderful 2 octave+ range?" > > i will put a vote in for my pigtronix echolution-the modulated delay has 12 > sec. it is the closest thing i've heard > on a "hardware pedal" that can do what frisell is doing w/ his pds8000. > > i'm still sort of amazed that digitech has never redone this pedal. their > jamman pedals seem to just go the route of the boss loop stations. > which i guess is all the rage.... > > seems everyone is going software now....w/ all the problems i have at home > w/ computer and at work w/ computers, i'm not sure if i'd put > my money on relying on one for creating things live....granted i know > hardware stuff can fail too & break, but i guess i'm old school... > > the echolution is not a perfect recreation-it is more going for the > "echoplex tape" model of delay. if you set it long, and spin the dial to > shorten > the time, you get the high pitched munchkin sound going fast, or if you > play a couple of notes on a short delay and spin the other way to lengthen > it-it gets all low and growley....i love it. and if you switch the loop > switch you can capture what you're doing and it plays infinately---w/ the > loop switch off > it acts more like a tape delay and fades (can go to oscilate mode too). the > pedal has it's limitations-12 sec (supposedly 20 sec w/ tap tempo-haven't > figured that > out yet-requires READING! i love the 12 sec and knob for manipulating the > time too much), and since it's based on "tape sound" the repeats are not > crystal > clear like on the pds or a digital delay...but i find it sounds great, and > inspiring pedal....love the limitations.... > > from vids i watched when i debated my purchase-it appears the eventide > timefactor in it's 12 sec of loop mode can do similar things w/ speed, it > was the other > pedal i debated and watched endless vids on, when i had some money from > pedal sales. i just ended up pulling the trigger on the echolution...don't > regret it at all. > s--- > www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn > > > --00151750e25683fa6a04a4cbb6a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Digitech RDS-8000 rack unit?

I've spotted a NOS one for 50 euro= s, just wondering...

Ciao!
=C2=A0

2011/6/3 Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>
re:">= ;I've got to say that all the discussion on Bill Frisell's use of t= he
>Digitech PDS8000 makes me miss mine. Any good VST alternatives with
= >that wonderful 2 octave+ range?"
=C2=A0
i will put a vote in for my pigtronix echolution-the modulated delay h= as 12 sec. it is the closest thing i've heard
on a "hardware pedal" that can do what frisell is doing w/ h= is pds8000.
=C2=A0
i'm still sort of amazed that digitech has never redone this pedal= . their jamman pedals seem to just go the route of the boss loop stations.<= /div>
which i guess is all the rage....
=C2=A0
seems everyone is going software now....w/ all the problems i have at = home w/ computer and at work w/ computers, i'm not sure if i'd put =
my money on relying on one for creating things live....granted i know = hardware stuff can fail too & break, but i guess i'm old school...<= /div>
=C2=A0
the echolution is not a perfect recreation-it is more going for the &q= uot;echoplex tape" model of delay. if you set it long, and spin the di= al to shorten
the time, you get the high pitched munchkin sound going fast, or if yo= u play a couple of notes on a short delay and spin the other way to lengthe= n
it-it gets all low and growley....i love it. and if you switch the loo= p switch you can capture what you're doing and it plays infinately---w/= the loop switch off
it acts more like a tape delay and fades (can go to oscilate mode too)= . the pedal has it's limitations-12 sec (supposedly 20 sec w/ tap tempo= -haven't figured that
out yet-requires READING! i love the 12 sec and knob for manipulating = the time too much), and since it's based on "tape sound" the = repeats are not crystal
clear like on the pds or a digital delay...but i find it sounds great,= and inspiring pedal....love the limitations....
=C2=A0
from vids i watched when i debated my purchase-it=C2=A0 appears the ev= entide timefactor in it's 12 sec of loop mode can do similar things w/ = speed, it was the other
pedal i debated and watched endless vids on, when i had some money fro= m pedal sales. i just ended up pulling the trigger on the echolution...don&= #39;t regret it at all.
s---
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

--00151750e25683fa6a04a4cbb6a2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 11:05:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7099D183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=et6Zcj76QQg7mx+91RTMkfLpuCvSJWgB77pqLBVq50I=; b=AH+fcCv+zfm6AMzlK0AgoIRk1QlTyNDIheov1VLddzFnViupkBZXTA5Rut0pqp1jB7 1f1XlwtxtOSZfiqBGPMQjQTtN1u7ELI+5Z4izK+xibE2BRXCEDkGcI81wC4WZq0k2JFy CyCBqQFPowxSyTz2+kkHnN0U/L+IilevhcMXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LnSHAniC1TyRg4VZb5XE15ZfoFJuvPc+/2P3USwAyle8v+umJre0OXEcVzcoqdCm9d nTNmS7z2hSF8NzWnTurWmxTDIRXg63NMMNG+1HpWsssHmAYsXKapJbofZd49xYRZ9FHo s1MO6osl5WL9DBB+dBQEIp0eM/qV6wRdRUlbI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:05:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 616 Lines: 22 >> hey Per, I've seen this >> little mixer of yours I think, who makes it again? >> =C2=A0Bill On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Bill, > The little hand mixer I use is from FaderFox, a German company. Looks lik= e: > http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg Funny coincidence! Today CDM coveres a new model of the FaderFox. Gosh, mine is stone age by now! This new third generation is USB powered and partially programmable! Link to article: http://t.co/1wlF7Yl Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 11:08:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FCDB183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mBo3ml67bTBAhjmk+52VvQ76sZJPOTxzk26V8klK8lg=; b=pTv25BDyny5sbzzx11qqEFSxiTN3mqtrYIqD2jvlB+zcCoChRR36mH+lqRzyEdqb2m TyC3lMjzf+D3ne9dnUmkH44e7aRslUR7uQsTZib2PHrfu1NUewsIJbvxGCelK9+7Qc6W 60QpzNAr0s6Clqm5OdkVCTMWuTMUcydPcrDoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c0zypdGWmpw+F24/QfKcZ66jOnYCoAk0l2hOyppcj2qybUo84LIqL+A7kohno3FN1T 5dsrM9XNSd9XiEY4e5p/76WkDe/WRQBJ+mxT6GPudYQurwaZkj0AXhrmyvL0NUYp0iQS A2Wvpr5MDMcuYBx7R7v+Qg36NWea4aD8e1598= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:08:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <3J-bcC.A.-3C.hCM6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 374 Lines: 10 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Funny coincidence! Today CDM coveres a new model of the FaderFox. > Gosh, mine is stone age by now! This new third generation is USB > powered and partially programmable! Link to article: > http://t.co/1wlF7Yl ...and with TWO JOYSTICKS! Sorry, forgot to mention the most useful upgrade IMHO. P ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 11:08:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E683183462; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=NOw9nTxQZzI6nYxdJohEqAqfYyj151LISpqXT9zuls4=; b=XYxQlJ6U5gK5lopqDv4aT6/rd/EZpmzsZvZkqSZajS+2imv11ZSHrOPlL0feLO0WRC dKp8lqI4idxolXhAMhOqKyEmBPAO3FpWAMK4PL8GkDDvYDG2KsM7MdG2OikJG/CCN6+9 loBcC/tjYD1kq/cUKHZVRC5qyzJqRMHmPwjU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=h3+IzlsiGpgd+DQJQGFBgye6SKiYP0XDydvB/wTHO64kLRVM3OFaOIxfbPLW9cXkg4 cqoj0VZ2RWb+okD+3XsuR2ghw3eV97JjB44+i0kPdPR/D3PJtbQHUlB/lHDzGq9yaVU/ i3pxzQq6XF6Kk8qB7FsRVdvtfYyPA72S35HZk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747358660177e04a4ccc7cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3619 Lines: 99 --00151747358660177e04a4ccc7cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, I'll bite... Anyone tried the Arc? pretty special. cheers, t. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:36 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > You can=B4t beat a nice big knob, is what I say... and I dare anyone to > > comment on that... > > +1 > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --00151747358660177e04a4ccc7cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, I'll bite...=A0

Anyone tried the Arc? =A0prett= y special.=A0

cheers,=A0

= t.


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:47= AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11= :36 AM, mark francombe <mark@m= arkfrancombe.com> wrote:
> You can=B4t beat a nice big knob, is what I say... and I dare anyone t= o
> comment on that...

+1




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--00151747358660177e04a4ccc7cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 11:15:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98908183486; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4yZigJoYhLaCArWQzE19A8eDuuyxlboOSrlF3mw43PU=; b=hhwqPrx8+0Dd5OrEkkxYsZnF1AsAaDsDKhydoUDsevAd7mhj+R09Y2IUV5KIkj+WAh HzjSkRp/uaNG5okYeesHIep9DtADqJLd0Ba/aFXxYvJpobSuge1Xao9Y9QoTLYocaszx kViGxo9sGPf2CQjlvO9utinpCzkUg8y3VrivI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hw0vMfdOEyUnMmDq+eCFY/LeKyiI3YsncEu0LaqN9F3c0FN58DarQ2Vm4bLVVbLQMo zKwUdBwSCtjdI0SMx2rRj6XJk+Wlj22cYSDuM9uE0tST01xzfGPwJv9oEp7Qcqy10Avm cASOJJLEPzXkHL8YH48up0eSnuX5JDkoh8sCE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:15:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 211 Lines: 8 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:08 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > Anyone tried the Arc? =C2=A0pretty special. yeah, they talked about it in the bible. Is there a newer version out? Got a link? P ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 11:19:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0B7C18349F; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2NkW3WT//SFzE9jCp2u2cFH1GKOvkiK3fWJCazSHp0o=; b=c2fkIl3UElq2Tc+dvCBLeWsxFw4IvxoD1vXfdMQOYssDBtZGlib/T5vU6mj1RPq4k5 0GLUB2sQaNqGcxo19Q8HJPRFyREMIklJjcHhQF1BXUh+2wTsqsacrz7X825YBsqZhZYq BdfCpI3VviI4CzoATxAAzCZ6CBS6UgGLINdRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Z/b237DYGopOf1tKXAPttVV7DoN0sSy710F5AK7Y2ogoX1ioVDxqYZ/7/60yEbvz/F I8aMchCRZgl0NluwyiqNimUR+RGr2dtsYDURZd9kP+16H5oElVYciUVRzzgm6sJp6+Oz GNdkh3ZOtKima2UJVhb1FOe/Rb+oqvzYaNr3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:19:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c418ef0ecc104a4ccedce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4153 Lines: 108 --0015174c418ef0ecc104a4ccedce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable haha! Yeah, that one is stuck in Mt. Ararat I believe... here's the newer version by the folks who brought you the Monome... I think you actually know about this, though Per... Music for big knobs.. http://justastudio.net/monome-arc-4-holocene-by-stretta/ On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:08 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > > Anyone tried the Arc? pretty special. > > yeah, they talked about it in the bible. > Is there a newer version out? > Got a link? > > P ;-) > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174c418ef0ecc104a4ccedce Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable haha! Yeah, that one is stuck in Mt. Ararat I believe...=A0

<= div>here's the newer version by the folks who brought you the Monome...= I think you actually know about this, though Per...=A0

Music for big knobs..=A0

http://justastudio.net/mon= ome-arc-4-holocene-by-stretta/

On Fri= , Jun 3, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:= 08 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gma= il.com> wrote:
> Anyone tried the Arc? =A0pretty special.

yeah, they talked about it in the bible.
Is there a newer version out?
Got a link?

P ;-)




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

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--0015174c418ef0ecc104a4ccedce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 13:13:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBE9F183462; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qmElm88XYp1VAesQAdom27g21PU0WipSANAQ11Ik00s=; b=ajSE63ziioEAcvzxJWl70kFYmhpwbASUTwhQeLgkYf5KYxydxA1Cvoew+g42zL8+Ky Jp6fufILW4We2cW+bQVls3cdRvdHtn1TR5vW5e8HorR8mAwYKdeTH+IV/4Wsu4UObc4E l/IweTExPYV6IW4d2hHYZghHS6hjagxHXdr9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tBr+l6jpnsqWx+48kbf3VcyABPIjxMK4V+ij7gmYmxx7XKTbVpJZ8gmFGxVV2hT4xh UkJMGfOtiCPs2RL9U+4MgbDwLgKhOFFdRFUTXAI0zr4swpmGQMBu+gTvLCy8JyytjDwh e4cHERtC1vWC8Dt7a9ZKhX6uAxh9MJkp5FVkc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:12:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Per Boysen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1537 Lines: 47 I play live close to 8 months of the year, and I find that looping with your hands is much more interesting for the audience. Chances are, you're in a bar, so they can't actually see your feet - therefore it looks like you're just shifting your weight awkwardly on stage. Besides, using your hands you can make your gestures much more dramatic, and the same goes for your feet, but your music may not be the most appropriate to engage a loop by highkicking then stomping! On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > And, for some odd reason...........I find that hand controlling of things > just looks better on stage > than tap dancing on pedals. =A0 I don't know why that is, but I've asked > several non-performers about that > and they agree... > > .....why would that be? =A0 =A0 I suppose it's because our hands are so m= uch > more controllable than our feet > and most of civilization was built using the hands, as opposed to the fee= t. > > Other thoughts? =A0 disagreements with my take on it? =A0this subject jus= t > fascinates me. > > Here's another one: =A0 =A0 Tapping with your toe on stage looks > dorky...............tapping with your heel looks funky > (as any self respecting professional fun musician about this little trick= of > the trade.......lol) > > Why? =A0 Weird. > > rick walker --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 14:10:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A07C183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 379198.49915.bm@omp1018.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307110224; bh=KKJ2gUBIon6ywR4QxekWC78WdewaKtXK2oDTeWDKjCo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ofHCzuMHow/fHtARUM8x3yiV5pe3kiJ1HpAGsZhAiyUCCbpkG1fF6aJ7T5YWroe+4/TIVAzRKS3IfCU4xUMJdm6bBmM5DUDm3N5hLi3KCF/ko/tzBHYyq1fgUgfERcE5FbGrMx0D7GVOQVlGqfPryyNBvCEGdnmUnaIqLamGqEE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NgAClspQVspA5Z3WkLgECbUDgCWZzfo1HKx5HIkn8H48IjQ1vWAZQWSAreFk3jegPNlfqYOKPOhz4fCjcTrDI11L8ivWbTuztYM2vfDzH+1KvT2k2uCsI1WpPn7+ZgfskYhXfa0dDwBoKm9ZPl3UukHkj9GkdYUA53cN5euxOpY=; Message-ID: <972594.45674.qm@web113204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gC1.7_4VM1kIik9T.GQPiWAPD_Q.4eGxrUrGSHw5H12PbFT DBUu4_RyisQD40yOXYOiVwdwUvt1BqnT_ZgX8nGxTjtdsPt03bYUvpp3qPlF 79T3vBTSf6Se.uqvuPk2xAh5GyJmzDE9CCz1p6DHJq.1tMBdKWuooRtcRxuX pp1eGUutVBEmU6IDbf39.lz1rPh4P8Zd2uAOz160YmgpWeXwA1OWZpoqPdwe K29svcuFvy_t5GRs_adtQsbXnqzaOPQEXE7vPGSfEC389.vruSTCOhpD918K IPOvZR9Z7BWROXw7qHAJGdD3Hp9XqzFBpNMU9ocjVPfjoq2.QQl7KbkaxdIT zITi.IT6E8bzd.aqSJUAZbqq1Fid5YA1VDtWfBhc95XdqGWoDUqZEh9yT_Mg hUw7xSHhp8HwPsA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Darren Michaels Subject: Steve Lawson Atlanta Clinic & House Concert To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1741486958-1307110224=:45674" Resent-Message-ID: <7VKlRD.A.quF.TtO6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 19743 Lines: 362 --0-1741486958-1307110224=:45674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 1pm on Saturday, June 18, 2011, UK solo bassist Steve Lawson will give a clinic at Atlanta Bass Gallery (4451 Atlanta Rd, Smyrna, GA 30080). A keen fretless player and a master looper, Lawson is known internationally for his unique approach and ability to abstract the electric bass guitar, yielding lush soundscapes packed with a surprising array of sounds one might not expect from the instrument. The clinic is free. Lawson is also performing with Lobelia and fellow solo bassist, Darren Michaels, at a house concert on Friday, June 17. Email darren@darrenmichaelsbass.com for more info or to reserve a seat. --0-1741486958-1307110224=:45674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

At 1pm on Saturday, June 18, 2011, UK solo bassist Steve Lawson will give a clinic at Atlanta Bass Gallery (4451 Atlanta Rd, Smyrna, GA 30080).


A keen fretless player and a master looper, Lawson is known internationally for his unique approach and ability to abstract the electric bass guitar, yielding lush soundscapes packed with a surprising array of sounds one might not expect from the instrument. The clinic is free.


Lawson is also performing with Lobelia and fellow solo bassist, Darren Michaels, at a house concert on Friday, June 17. Email darren@darrenmichaelsbass.com for more info or to reserve a seat.

--0-1741486958-1307110224=:45674-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 15:18:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71233183459; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:18:31 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8Xex-C.A.WwG.LtP6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2940 Lines: 70 http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110602.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #739 June 2, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Antisocial" on Northern Echo. RMI: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jun PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Monty Adkins Memory Box Fragile.Flicjer.Fragment (Audiobulb) VA [Bluermutt] Telephone Lullaby Autistici Reworked: Resonating Wires (Audiobulb) VA [Bluermutt] Tide Ride Autistici Reworked: Resonating Wires (Audiobulb) Alpha Wave Movement Transwave Soniq Variants (Harmonic Oscillations Resonance Recordings) Jeffrey Koepper Snow Sequence Arctisonia (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Glacial Arctisonia (Air Space) Create Running Out of Time We Live By the Machines (Groove) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Radio Massacre Percussive Antisocial (Northern Echo) International Maintenance Radio Massacre Loose Metal Antisocial (Northern Echo) International Compound Radio Massacre Coppers in the Jar Antisocial (Northern Echo) International for Soundproofing Radio Massacre For Longer Than It Antisocial (Northern Echo) International Takes 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Fast Forward" on Northern Echo. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 15:30:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D25F183462; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=yMxAJ7W7nAoPh8ZdbvCArpG6pAdHwgpzIvOq8QbMesM= c=1 sm=0 a=Sp_JDhkVuu4A:10 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=Hm-eQAe13G3AtlEX7hEA:9 a=8LDvOyhTXbfxfx_ioxQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:30:25 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> References: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Bill Fox X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 522 Lines: 14 On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Bill Fox wrote: > Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that > airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and = Bethlehem, > PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville > and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts > in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. I must be missing something. This seems to be a purely local, realtime = broadcast, show. So why bother sending it to several mailing lists? Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 15:35:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCEFB183465; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=Sp_JDhkVuu4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=ZdF1-QdSeRaoEVcR_jIA:9 a=Iqac2LYTcePZD5OxnSkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <0870E2C5-D1AE-433C-A08B-4A81E7D6372A@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:35:02 -0700 References: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 654 Lines: 22 I've wondered about that for years too. On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Bill Fox wrote: > >> Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, >> that >> airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and >> Bethlehem, >> PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in >> Fogelsville >> and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also >> broadcasts >> in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. > > I must be missing something. This seems to be a purely local, > realtime broadcast, show. So why bother sending it to several > mailing lists? > > Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 15:44:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C261C183466; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 625840473/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.120/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.120 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al4CACQB6U1YbRF4/2dsb2JhbAAMR5gb2QGGIQSVLosA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,315,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="625840473" Message-ID: <4DE9014F.1050706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:44:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. References: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> In-Reply-To: <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 795 Lines: 25 Not the first time that question has come up here. The poster, Bill, would have been happy to not send it here, but a number of LDers said that they liked the playlists as a suggestion for music that they could check out. andy Victor Eijkhout wrote: > On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Bill Fox wrote: > >> Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that >> airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, >> PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville >> and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts >> in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. > > I must be missing something. This seems to be a purely local, realtime broadcast, show. So why bother sending it to several mailing lists? > > Victor. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 15:47:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25AB1183464; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5asQ6euaRPJxDdFxwvXsn6JDb7fmFbz8qWDLMfa45gU= c=1 sm=0 a=Sp_JDhkVuu4A:10 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=4kRc8HqmQMbqa0r1koYA:9 a=gjAkCEF6nxn3YS-Dp3EA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: <4DE9014F.1050706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:47:43 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5CAF561C-ED67-41D6-AABA-AA43F90D96BA@eijkhout.net> References: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> <4DE9014F.1050706@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 283 Lines: 11 On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, andy butler wrote: > The poster, Bill, would have been happy to not > send it here, but a number of LDers said that they > liked the playlists as a suggestion for music that > they could check out. Maybe Bill can set up his own mailing list? Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 15:49:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0F9F18349C; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AP3t4pGdrG++rxgcbOhbmIUCiGEf7I2PC8n8JQhkHAY=; b=QgQ/jn01OH2DrLWK2sTfw4E7H0Qh/5Ik82C6WvRTQfE5FmMf+23XjKChex/5mZOVYI i78S3VlJOW6+lorY0dGfSxPBVQAjlqyjqz5kql6YncfWq7bVPJNRlPklpKHyS4ZcZNGW LQUpPrDZFYux9wAMDzvP1bKkA0ROEJPHCXTu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NWJ+ySX8x1E/ULlBeOdueNtGcbMdpZL2AzlhXGXC+1RDT6ZAbnr55pjlSx1+tdU30v ZeXxaiCrWNzf/vSBg9lmhrr9UmXW4QEHsvnTGhL2T1RPdbWAMpUPKFt+MGoTre+7AT9V aj4wVU25PUOYwfEewxSRLhkdUzUHzvK9xu15Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0870E2C5-D1AE-433C-A08B-4A81E7D6372A@charter.net> References: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> <0870E2C5-D1AE-433C-A08B-4A81E7D6372A@charter.net> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:49:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1310 Lines: 38 I wondered about that too, received an explanation and forgot about it. The same scenario repeated again, and again... and again. Today I never read those posts. I once tried to dial in the podcast, since I love Space Music, but there was only an audio file with an excuse and a promise to come online soon. Or something like that. It seems to be an interesting playlist, if you can access it. BTW I just picked up the SomaFM iPhone app! That's nice to have at hand if suffering downtime at a wireless supported area (happens to all of us now and then...) Per On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:35 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn = wrote: > I've wondered about that for years too. > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote: > >> >> On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Bill Fox wrote: >> >>> Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that >>> airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem= , >>> PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville >>> and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. =C2=A0WDIY also broadc= asts >>> in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. >> >> I must be missing something. This seems to be a purely local, realtime >> broadcast, show. So why bother sending it to several mailing lists? >> >> Victor. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 16:08:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08D7D18349C; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:08:45 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.151.204 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33790-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDF01FA6187930-F14-C36@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 128 Lines: 7 <>.....sez mf soooooooo true!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 16:18:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91D6A1834A2; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:18:10 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.151.204 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33790-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDF020F73CE856-F14-E7C@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 258 Lines: 10 <> also MF this is an obvious TRUTH.....MNPD is how i judge a BOX.....more knobs=20 per dollar!!!!! and your set @ Y2K was a visual and audio delite!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 16:22:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57C081834A7; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=liYG3iRbWknXoB0xD07NoM+dnBJmYPs5r0zEkkAx5DM=; b=aSCxAmDJPAJhA5Pe+YN9cGNmXbDdjn4Eqkl+Yoi0ZINOWX+HP1pDB9CnDNl15Cmniu OSnvjXbSJIOMBhiUE0bMLbm+MHwdn5wce4KkkHYFmN8A3LE8NCYkbbMW2pBy9gPRYWhK vR8CspNOaW8JiKdUTNdTaJnAbQbz7QhYBfY1w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=r7opVX+ad0YZREJf5LqW+kW9DC0Ph9Z+d4jtDOSnMD6FSEHf3Nig0qlqknlPMiLjNd lOJGI1P+lERKZx4ZRbHFHHUX94o/N4GuJ/yyBZ5K2G5tijGOeKohWztsAwQxJvopxx7k 9r37nVRBQBrj+Y900iGrIKDpFJBtoqSUj8cDM= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-245921725 Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:21:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2486 Lines: 65 --Apple-Mail-1-245921725 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just checked it out and it looks very aesthetically pleasing but could = one single knob be useful for a looper? This discussion about hands = versus feet with your looping control is interesting though. Never = thought about hands for anything other than playing my instrument. I = thought hand control would be out for us Todd since we have bows in our = hands. What type of parameters are you controlling on the ipad? If I could figure out a way to incorporate knobs I think I would be = interested in the bcr2000 so I could have knobs to control all the = parameters to the plug-ins I use. Todd Matthews On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:08 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Okay, I'll bite...=20 >=20 > Anyone tried the Arc? pretty special.=20 >=20 > cheers,=20 >=20 > t. >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Per Boysen = wrote: --Apple-Mail-1-245921725 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = just checked it out and it looks very aesthetically pleasing but could = one single knob be useful for a looper? This discussion about hands = versus feet with your looping control is interesting though. Never = thought about hands for anything other than playing my instrument. I = thought hand control would be out for us Todd since we have bows in our = hands. What type of parameters are you controlling on the = ipad?

If I could figure out a way to incorporate = knobs I think I would be interested in the bcr2000 so I could have knobs = to control all the parameters to the plug-ins I = use.

Todd = Matthews


On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:08 = AM, todd reynolds wrote:

Okay, I'll = bite... 

Anyone tried the Arc?  pretty = special. 

cheers, 

=
t.


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 = at 5:47 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:

= --Apple-Mail-1-245921725-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 16:27:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BB02183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:22:22 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.151.204 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33790-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDF0218D85F1E2-F14-FD3@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 125 Lines: 6 <>.....sez PERBOY a day for TRUTHS.....THE FIRST NOTE.....sez it all!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 16:33:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A25C4183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d+YzTfawtbVKrMgLTiztRJ5rzJA/t8vYJppFh7F3h9Q=; b=qgNuKTzRH85Vi7iFiH92dDY13MUzZjzDE+eTuguunB1+KpSVT0n6NhMzOeq2LPD+7B hcMqgu5nhgQyJsqRP9b4ubHyL7H2uEFdEA3SuxybKhkR76zbKugBKgDW3mtECavae2HY DtWnCNeBobHXsvEQ9hHMa3U6IGviZZv2pxTHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ly/yASFVL3/MxaWEl/HSZL5TwBwdZvF8m5XSOjAPIhRFNiKZSBZvcUmMA1Av2fLxe4 RUxK0WDmHX/Th5ISFNJvYEF0UQ3gg/nf/eykPOOJe/VczbGFJ+UMUWOlbUY5WnIJH/O0 KSwfDCFL4eAg0sfhW5d5+V23VTSjW/cZTi1Z0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:33:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 758 Lines: 20 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > This discussion about hands versus feet with your looping control is > interesting though. Never thought about hands for anything other than > playing my instrument. ONe point in using loopers to perform music is that it takes some workload off your hands' instrument playing. So even a harpist should be able to lift a finger once in a while. Another point is that looping can introduce machine-like timing that is almost impossible to create by only organic instrument playing. Third point being that looping may create other-worldly sounds and musical parts that traditional instruments can't produce for you. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - Suburbs of Goa [SomaFM] - From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 16:47:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D595D1834A3; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=uk0TbJEYYH3cR//hPZtENPr5IimWabDnri4p4BAUSHo=; b=t1F4//tYxzeditVaDlAEaqyb/Nagrk4sKxQM+SZ56oa0OkFm68hGDlLMDSUd8bvIY9 ZMiL9OdVDTBNwN3f9JzG9Oq8qkiFJcjP/thlBjpxcpfKdI9/vFDKuvLSfQpsSpmllh6H pCBQxOcBdCiIQFxuxJs9zYA0E6VGRMs6EmrcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=e6WmSOeXEMRYnGGj5fG8uDLI6W8VpRuoZvF/r0wbhAMPh3BID/FRdhvxUv9scrwAzi phKW5a0JVjaGdoKLyUPGW3xRXfUMz031KAZyu+1CzgAw8U810ZmMIDyl2VTE/0NjaXzD B0qHaHPM+zV3JsopO4oxL9ljmp14D+1lXVZEg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:47:09 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <73D79119-E34F-495C-B40D-3D8978EA2F8C@gmail.com> References: <16B7376C-1EC6-4DF9-B529-CBB9E1BF5805@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1241 Lines: 35 Thanks Per! I'm gonna give those points some heavy thought. I've = definitely been digging the shuffle command to slice up some = chords/drones with machine like timing lately. Maybe I should bring my = bass stand to gigs so I can free up both hands and begin my = interplanetary musical travel:) -Todd Matthews On Jun 3, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: >> This discussion about hands versus feet with your looping control is >> interesting though. Never thought about hands for anything other than >> playing my instrument. >=20 >=20 > ONe point in using loopers to perform music is that it takes some > workload off your hands' instrument playing. So even a harpist should > be able to lift a finger once in a while. >=20 > Another point is that looping can introduce machine-like timing that > is almost impossible to create by only organic instrument playing. >=20 > Third point being that looping may create other-worldly sounds and > musical parts that traditional instruments can't produce for you. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > - Suburbs of Goa [SomaFM] - >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 16:53:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B38D1834A9; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 345376.39400.bm@omp1058.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307119983; bh=D7zMizglF9GA7ZeA72xuFAmogWV5yf/giQqPMDDAAd8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6C+btUBhRqUKVPleOaurgNqiAPuJ32wNx8iELIe7g3pf8Nqnv5VQtsoiTYDRSsZ8Rly2oiISYjCXko5k0nXrg7PsfbdAVJ7AHAdvbaIBJDNPZsh9hO5hRYJL7sZmWbmxLASmw9kyu1qvViXn8dsMXYsmcHIevYDNmNk0kBw/NwY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XrqeFeM0soAlkSWWq+adbJBp7DkrUVJ3SSG2HtayRlx3YTLe8qqQ795o9zYnRzvU1U75Xqg1ar3ZecnLFNsmk+MoyuvZ+fhANJ6q+BnAGzDdpxcqtFSKaSZ9XDIEE/7sqkLIjffMCOVbd34H77eJ1oJnEQR4+gNKRYSLKb/ulpI=; Message-ID: <158217.87260.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ko5KdHYVM1k.3QpcCW6PLVGmUX18mbeN29XHVz_TWj9bnKD naU3XUL6lc7AJHrqcNED32g_s9opQL9_s_wKPPK4GxuXuWUxdiZ1irEc.bRn zs7IqrBpzUaD77WxsYU.NDR7EJLeuVTbuUsn1OKaBPdaa3PXLiAMhtC3p6OY sTkZXXkTWTpw3b.wBgqnUMxXyewn6voNX_qT7aHGZhJLSrSh1CYlAXR43Cj9 39nd9KeF1LdqC36piaQ1Tg9IuXpkEWEo7_i2rPIMXM_b8fRJDIRdo7xZRN_Q hWYgiImNpde9VTfcNHunQGuWPpZ26vb9AzwZwL9F2rbRcrJm8OZXDr.k__LK lZaXplxG27wtZPol6xSR0DQd_Ilc- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.303096 References: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> <4DE9014F.1050706@tiscali.co.uk> <5CAF561C-ED67-41D6-AABA-AA43F90D96BA@eijkhout.net> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:53:02 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5CAF561C-ED67-41D6-AABA-AA43F90D96BA@eijkhout.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1705473445-1307119982=:87260" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2641 Lines: 45 --0-1705473445-1307119982=:87260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am lucky enough to live in the broadcast area, it is a great show. It also says 'webcasting on the internet', so I presume you could listen wherever you are. Just click on the link at the top of the email, then select one of the listen links at the top, and Voila! worldwide broadcasting! I have gotten a pretty good education in ambient music by listening to this show. Eric ________________________________ From: Victor Eijkhout To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 11:47:43 AM Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, andy butler wrote: > The poster, Bill, would have been happy to not > send it here, but a number of LDers said that they > liked the playlists as a suggestion for music that > they could check out. Maybe Bill can set up his own mailing list? Victor. --0-1705473445-1307119982=:87260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am lucky enough to live in the broadcast area, it is a great show. It also says 'webcasting on the internet', so I presume you could listen wherever you are. Just click on the link at the top of the email, then select one of the listen links at the top, and Voila! worldwide broadcasting!
 
I have gotten a pretty good education in ambient music by listening to this show.
 
Eric

From: Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 11:47:43 AM
Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011.


On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, andy butler wrote:

> The poster, Bill, would have been happy to not
> send it here, but a number of LDers said that they
> liked the playlists as a suggestion for music that
> they could check out.

Maybe Bill can set up his own mailing list?

Victor.

--0-1705473445-1307119982=:87260-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 17:22:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A2341834AD; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5asQ6euaRPJxDdFxwvXsn6JDb7fmFbz8qWDLMfa45gU= c=1 sm=0 a=Sp_JDhkVuu4A:10 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=MhL-p8C3C_OYO1KRmSkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aNTG0NFY9T0XJxXVIrIA:9 a=K0v1ALw6AVUo5Jo4DuAA:7 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 From: Victor Eijkhout Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-249568099 Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:22:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <158217.87260.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> <4DE9014F.1050706@tiscali.co.uk> <5CAF561C-ED67-41D6-AABA-AA43F90D96BA@eijkhout.net> <158217.87260.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <85WRqB.A.O3B.nhR6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1737 Lines: 43 --Apple-Mail-2-249568099 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jun 3, 2011, at 11:53 AM, E Gross wrote: > Just click on the link at the top of the email, then select one of the = listen links at the top, and Voila! worldwide broadcasting! That gives you whatever is on right now, not that galactic show. Victor. --Apple-Mail-2-249568099 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Just click on the link at the = top of the email, then select one of the listen links at the top, and = Voila! worldwide = broadcasting!

That gives you = whatever is on right now, not that galactic = show.

Victor.

= --Apple-Mail-2-249568099-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 22:14:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94D11183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DE95CAB.2060306@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:14:03 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hardware/Software Looper Failure Rates in Concert was frisell/pds8000-alternatives... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3347 Lines: 79 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > I'm so with you Scott on not-going-the-computer-route. > Recently I have seen two gigs get ruined with problems with mac book > pro and ableton live. > > And the most important thing is I want to use these machines AS LITTLE > as possible. > Mimimized my computer-time to one hour a day nowadays. > > -Petri- Dear Petri, with great respect, I feel compelled to point something out having read your post here: Namely, every looping solution available commercially these days (with the exception of someone using two Revox analog tape machines or perhaps Stan Cards live feedback looping experiments) is gear that has the same very simple things in common: namely on the front end, they have a signal that is converted with an Analog to Digital converter/ that sound is manipulated/processed/looper through written software/ it is then sent from a Digital to Analog converter/ then, it is sent to some kind of amplification Whatever you are using IS a computer. It may be a dedicated computer like any so called hardware solution or it may be a non-dedicated computer using software that someone has written for it. Personally, I am a hardware user. I can't even explain why I like it more, but I do. However, I have seen literally hundreds of performances in the looping festivals that I've attended in 15 different countries and at the 10 years of the live looping festival I've produced (for which I was the MC for all of the performances). I venture to say that there is a good chance that I've seen as many live looping gigs as anyone on the planet so I think I have a good sampling of what works and what fails on stage. I can say categorically, that hardware seem to fail every bit as much as software at gigs (and probably a third of the time it is the human element which has actually failed in retrospect). I've seen laptops fail, EDPs, Looperlatives, Boss, Line 6, Jammans, Repeaters, controllers.........you name it. I've seen all of them fail. From my observation, the more complex ones seem to have a greater failure rate (EDPs, LP-1s, Repeaters, Laptops) but the stomp box pedals fail as well. The only thing that I see as an advantage to hardware is that it is nominally less expensive to have backups in place on stage. When a laptop system fails, the whole musical experience can just stop.........ouch!!! When I play, I always take a less sophisticated stomp box modelled live looper with me so that I can do my entire show if my LP-1 or my Repeater should fail (they both can freeze up if you over tax them). Still and all, hardware looping solutions and software solutions are made by human beings and used by humans beings who are, inherently, imperfect. Failure WILL happen, from my experience, eventually, if not continually. I just think one's decision to use one solution or the other is truly, an aesthetic decision in the long run and that everyone's decision is valid, artistically. The next topic, then perhaps is what strategies do we have to cover equipment failure on stage. I'll start that thread now. That's my inflated two cents. yours, respectfully, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 22:33:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DA37183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:33:19 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment Failure Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3356 Lines: 82 Responding to a posting by Petri about software failure, it occurred to me that most sophisticated live loopers I know have little strategies they use as performers, to cover equipment failure. What are yours? For mine, I always take a simple stomp box pedal looper and have it in line before my LP-1/Repeater. In the future this will be an LP-2 Mini Looper but for the past few years it has been a Line 6 DL-4 and now, currently, a Line 6 M9. If major gear fails, I try to move the performance forward and keep playing (attempting to check out the gear furtively as something else is playing) I've had so many equipment failures in my life (Lexicon Jamman, Gibson EDP, Electrix Repeater, Looperlative LP-1) that I have been forced to finish entire shows with a simple stomp box looper so I've practiced doing that. It means one has to change aesthetic gears and immediately get over one's disappointment that things failed. Moving the performance forward immediately from a musical standpoint is crucial at this time, imho and with the best possible attitude visible to the crowd (even when you feel like hell and are NOT pleased). A little acting comes in handy here. Of course, with all the special features of the sophisticated loopers I use, this means my entire show changes it's course so I try to keep a 'beginners' mind' attitude about it all and remember the delight I had when I first started using the Lexicon Jamman or the Line 6 DL-4. I was so turned on when I first started looping or when I got any looping gear for the first time. I think it's efficacious to use that. I actually think there is something magical watching someone like Lili Lewis using a humble RC-2 looper that has no bells or whistles (or even the backwards, double/half speed features that I rely on constantly in my own looping). Some of the most creative performances I've ever seen were by musicians using the most basic of looping techniques and technology and being very creative. Some of the most creative performances I've ever seen have also been unbelievably sophisticated (so much so that I , as an experienced live looper can't even figure out what the artist is doing though the resulting music is amazing.) One of the things I like to do if I have a major equipment failure is use that failure humorously in addressing the audience. I've learned that when musicians are upfront about adversity on stage that the audience actually pulls for them. It's funny because, emotionally, it always feels like egg on my face and I have a bit of shame that I'm a techno klutz and have caused the problem (though frequently, it has just been gear that goes down). The important thing about this strategy is that it is crucial to keep engaging the audience, even if you have to talk to them while you scramble about and see if the problem is fixable. Secondly, I remember that music is more important than technique, so I try to continue playing if at all possible. Lastly, if things are really untenable and a solution is longer than a couple of minutes away, I ask the audience if I can be allowed a 'time out' and then announce a short intermission. I find this is a good way to indicate respect for the audience and then let's the performance pressure off so one can attend what's wrong. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 22:49:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99554183461; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=lzQa7T2SyxluEd1BSrDghukCq6fMU3ZKsOdPlG5fqz4=; b=M/lfrSMd5Zsmq4axD9TteC/7omzBO+3eOvjfWerBp7aOsHyksLm7/fVI34hjGGE1Vn 4AS3jQ4wxTcr5sGsEE/aiBqrfW7Ncm3T3+WvhbbM9qLCseX8AoXoeND9A6NuBvfEfVYl 1ysM5Zm/c8uc53cb9zOgEqbttwtk6768Oy6mA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=g8qOqqBE/VJPZuUvhxZyjFCwM5uzGZEJOaSr5hn2H+6UwSx4olmcX4WJDaW/de8/L/ h12MyPDb5FzB7k5q1MXH6hjqEKC13XbMe0n00Pwfp6nivIVEdwOyf5K90ykau31nbOyg G5DrXI3ziXJ1rPIgENiB9Aw5tX2NBpAqwhI0g= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment Failure From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:49:18 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 205 Lines: 8 *(nervously packs up one single glitchy laptop for gig tonight)* Anxiously Yours, Todd Matthews On Jun 3, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Responding to a posting by Petri about software failure, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 22:54:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34A35183462; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QOp8h/z49buyz4nnJy719UoxHR3XiwWdab5mYyDX7iA=; b=IQvQKhd+i6SeeuZMaEOTPV8Q2bxkmKPW1TsQargC1tbOpi3JaMFUh8TNbj55MNXZa0 CVXYqFs97aUzqQFcO68crdQGQf0vOTcjCGrq4zmlGhUwRhdXGmaUHM6C76uey2yQ2zai m+SywiRbwKs1+3mYvY97XUB3yUKI6UzsXnR5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nq44gYuAFKUfOKIm90HQphau6s1kQrW9lt7LbIM3S/5RwQCHpBZSMg8XdXi7wOv65d o/ifSfpukN6bswJyKemsJFniI3tngVLeYCFJwEknKFijYrLK9j5sXAEaHbhHryML/VEh U1JZZPGiOz+kH0XqT5lGv5C3NrDOQRnGOsOvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DE95CAB.2060306@cruzio.com> References: <4DE95CAB.2060306@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:54:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hardware/Software Looper Failure Rates in Concert was frisell/pds8000-alternatives... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 313 Lines: 8 I can't honestly say I'm a full-fledged Software Guy and I'm not a Hardware Guy either. But I can tell you... I AM NO BATTERY GUY! Great news I have minimized my Battery Time to - zero! Today I ripped out the last of my old active guitar pickups and mounted modern non-battery and awesome sounding pickups. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 23:05:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43D80183464; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 23:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XtuMae04nScow+Q+GZpZaD+kKH13btPvsXx1ZWI7xAM=; b=nQs+Ql2sbgH3OOxe53trvP2zdic95ZBEV3ZjeI2ZYSArXNEfCKJWSenrl8/J5xYcMu JSnvszpi9yPhT6gYkJj5F+7Df7yycfUXUhVmvpnwzOo4uFHZ0wHDTYcjS5dkoRWHRHhd ksY+SixRIcZjgCKR5tOBL5VevaQznNkE0oE28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JJeGQKGebHVf9rrz4IjdAZPR1qpZo8v0g58Orh9TXpIXFh7JoAvmsMkUe0FnFYiRRs AzlMVKW0XM9V3QWWlvuz/KfFQB5afWd0Iuaqbn6hREib3G2poTTKl+wefPEc7MUXY5ql XS3aN50RDfB9Xp5PYsREnoDYZo9dtanli7dH4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DE95CAB.2060306@cruzio.com> References: <4DE95CAB.2060306@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:05:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hardware/Software Looper Failure Rates in Concert was frisell/pds8000-alternatives... From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 23:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1444 Lines: 32 The thing that scares me a little bit about software are that the failures are less predictable. Yes, my hardware fails occasionally, but it's either as Rick says, a user failure I can learn from and not do again (such as using the wrong power source or wiring it backwards) or a mechanical failure which I can fix and learn to prevent. The two times my hardware has failed in the 8 years I've been performing: --At a Y2k festival 2 years ago, one of the switches on my DL-4 fell off. It was because I hadn't been keeping the hex screws tight on the unit. I now double check them while I set up. --Several years ago, the switches on my DOD DFX-94 units stopped working. This is because the chip board on the units bent away from where the switch could activate them. This was fixed by wedging in a little bit of paper to push the motherboard in the right direction. To me, software is hard to predict. If it crashes, I'm not aware that concrete things can be done to keep it from crashing again. I will observe that I witnessed many in-performance software crashes in the early 2000s, but not so much in the last 3 years or so. But software has its own advantages too - ask the guy who just lugged a large suitcase containing 75 pounds of equipment on public transportation last night! -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 23:51:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DA2E18345E; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 23:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 815 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:51:21 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=qpDq/6pZjLrmK6Md0mIVhWoBgsBddPjZ4fJrNmzW72lXCBMIXr2FU2L9pjBF+QMV; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <452894.1307133468101.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:37:47 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware/Software Looper Failure Rates in Concert Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd483270e965e0d9af8c84818e1e7d909665189477d7828d6397350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.44 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 23:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 468 Lines: 6 ...>But software has its own advantages too - ask the guy who just lugged >a large suitcase containing 75 pounds of equipment on public >transportation last night! oh! we're, going to start keeping track of weight? i dont want to think about that. everyone in the music biz has gear failures-it goes w/ the territory-i've witnessed some horror stories-nothing beats a tube amp w/ its guts spilled all over the stage-while someone is trying to figure out what is up? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 3 23:56:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8445E183463; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 23:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=HLKbB6ohLX4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=sszMJ5UYRC-QNMftsMYA:9 a=QiB_fDLD0u3ocyv0AlcA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=BcwT0Smst7MCtTIIGOhIgQ==:117 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:56:40 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <35d54a0d.202a0.13057eff027.Webtop.47@charter.net> Subject: RE: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment Failure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 47 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <_z30fD.A.NvD.5SX6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 23:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1921 Lines: 57 Peeps, As someone who has probably seriously been in the running as "poster child" for most unecessarily over-complicated music rigs, I suppose I should weigh in here somewhere. On the serious side, part of the mad method behind my convolulted and complicated signal paths has been the concept of parallel redundancy as a positive expedient in an emergency. You know . . . the notion that . . . well, yeah, sure, one thing may break but surely not everything at once . . . has saved my bacon on more than one ocassion. Then, on the other hand, there was that time in Santa Cruz a couple of years back where two things went very south all at once (in different parts of my rig) and I was totally dead in the water after playing only 10 minutes. It happens. I suppose the best strategy is to buy a few books on humor and learn to tell a few approps jokes . . . or to lead the audience in an ambient acappella sing-along of some sort (LOL). But I've never had the luxury of having a clear enough head (in mid-crisis) to devise such Plan Bs extemporaneously, nor to remember ones previously thought up. Mostly I schlepp my luggage off stage (tail between legs) and find a dark corner to wimper in and feel sorry for myself. My new lappy rig is complicated in concept (and control, with 12 EV-5 pedals) but nearly everything is running all in one program (Max/MSP) on the Mac. The vulnerability of **that** sort of scares me . . . if the Mac goes down . . . I'm cooked unless I can quickly work up a shadow-puppet routine. Right now, everything is tripple-tested and well nigh bulletproof playing in my own garage (and one little stint out at B-CIMF last month). I think my best strategy, should the very worst of the worst happen, is to work up some all-acoustic instrumental pieces and be prepared to play them if need be. It's ether that or tell looper jokes. :-) Best, Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 00:03:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69D86183461; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DE97636.8040608@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:03:02 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Davignon CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Hardware/Software Looper Failure Rates in Concert was frisell/pds8000-alternatives... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 322 Lines: 10 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > But software has its own advantages too - ask the guy who just lugged > a large suitcase containing 75 pounds of equipment on public > transportation last night! LOL, no shit, sherlock. I was bereft that I wasn't able to attend that show. How did it go, Matt? yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 00:11:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACBDF183463; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <63C1A6C7-A611-4374-A04D-6F7CCBA3EFE4@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-274116369 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: no looping but by way of introduction... Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:11:54 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa01b; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:11:54 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: <1rjsqC.A.jJE.PhX6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 11493 Lines: 193 --Apple-Mail-4-274116369 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I played my first gig in over a year yesterday. It was streamed live on the Internet and is still up. For how long, I don't know. My embarrassing bits are at the beginning and at about two hours in. Just skip the first piece, it's awful. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/15130542 Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-4-274116369 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I played my first gig in over a = year yesterday. It was streamed live on the Internet and is still up. = For how long, I don't know. My embarrassing bits are at the beginning = and at about two hours in. Just skip the first piece, it's awful.
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= --Apple-Mail-4-274116369-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 00:40:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F011183466; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0mWLmHfIP/EU8/SVhLVhJRYXjWoo2JsyWHKnu9aRVl0=; b=rtwlg/IUzXV0HegIONWmz1ceAMNO0VaBFX2DItENkQ6MK4TWrtkwXdoTZkfcl19NDj cnDaRem+8kBtcL42dlg0eTIZptOSged3HikdijQSPj1jR8VPEvw8DqYciTGJ/POCvyvL FbHEkgVWVXdj2Eedo5fDdjmWsevBUB/3UGBXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hR0d7pgDAlH285VUao4i4TSdsg09KYEZ84ymxvkr2/sYOvc061kwy8w39Fql8D7jUr dcKuUNXqVH7TJxLR8LDF3nmLAWnhii4kF6lHgHQ1Qn2knxq9H4eyYZikbX7oWHmL2NsA SQE/wbQihWLq8Uvyz6/kXNEi62WxprzaRH79g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35d54a0d.202a0.13057eff027.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <35d54a0d.202a0.13057eff027.Webtop.47@charter.net> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:40:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment Failure From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 378 Lines: 10 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:56 AM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn = wrote: > The vulnerability of **that** sort of scares me . . . if the Mac goes dow= n . You can keep a backup handy. That's what we do if performing with a guitar using a floating whammy. Why should laptops be excluded from this general rule in public performing? The show must go on you know. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 01:56:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63DCF18345E; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=g1wJ9yjmg+VidJ+olWmOsSgU2UrMXtEZ8QcU9Xeeg3o=; b=xZstDYYcAOGLgDJUZCkiq4CMUqzVTH1GhTLSTJjN/VW8q2btmmpjc3Y2vJjVYg4pGY 6B2/5ce6GXthMhy36eM2QSorxvJe6d7l3f8t5appooq0xIWFv8qxRgYre1jvMTLOOQpf Pp9reXSLmnHp+zVHh5w4x1d8OOT7AjZxIo7W0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=YalfT9F+Z6YKqlHA/NQTHPs0RVYtAWSUCexeZOfdN6AQIP7hd40UmIL6djmqtsTNKB buok/kb78FdJk75tlgJ6dHhX7TjKA58AhQr36WyHjeqpw9mvBdHmLdM+3pKMUTDqbW4n E7vHfPimA+rN0n/8O2a3/cdkG2r6Y2sXyBbsA= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14-280387164 Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:56:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3740 Lines: 93 --Apple-Mail-14-280387164 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 With this device in one's setup, it might be fun to make a meaningfully = limited MIDI control screen on the iPad, and allow members of the = audience to pass it around, adjusting certain parameters during the = performance... :) On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:05 AM, mark francombe wrote: > That said, I should mention that Hans=B4box looks COOL AS FUCK and I = am definately getting one...=20 >=20 > Heres the url if anyone missed it=20 > http://www.wifimidi.com >=20 > Cos actually the name says it all... its NOT for computer musicians, = because then you have a wifi/network source, no... its for hardware = people that want to control their hardware from an iPhone/pad! >=20 > I am, for instance, planning on using it as a control surface, to = control 8 parameters in my TC fireworx.=20 >=20 > But I dont have one yet (Im broke as HELL right now... people, = PLEEEEASE go and buy music or art from me, so I can buy Hans box!) >=20 > But will report when I do... >=20 > BTW, prinbting a skull on the box... pure genius, was the "must have" = design feature for me!! >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Apple-Mail-14-280387164 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 With = this device in one's setup, it might be fun to make a meaningfully = limited MIDI control screen on the iPad, and allow members of the = audience to pass it around, adjusting certain parameters during the = performance... :)


On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:05 AM, = mark francombe wrote:

That said, = I should mention that Hans=B4box looks COOL AS FUCK and I am definately = getting one...

Heres the url if anyone missed it
http://www.wifimidi.com

Cos = actually the name says it all... its NOT for computer musicians, because = then you have a wifi/network source, no... its for hardware people that = want to control their hardware from an iPhone/pad!

I am, for instance, planning on using it as a control surface, to = control 8 parameters in my TC fireworx.

But I dont have one yet = (Im broke as HELL right now... people, PLEEEEASE go and buy music or art = from me, so I can buy Hans box!)

But will report when I do...

BTW, prinbting a skull on the = box... pure genius, was the "must have" design feature for me!!

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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
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= --Apple-Mail-14-280387164-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 03:00:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1799B183462; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 03:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=3ELR08LGzF1EMPkmy2oIjZIhJrvvbc6Awz28vWTZdidN0kmu2WAbSXGARsiB3N7PMFwyTTAb7PPZ9L6ZYHwVYlgZoY4LEJxl07EPBhRnsBu5/zirKNCKL1zTAbIAyCK0PyA3F1PAgUoRmUCw+hV1athYJtqO38ctZnGXD3/C+4I= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307156401; bh=sHed8kVmPyk2UYiWlfNFtaDf2Jh6zH5s5orOSmlgJR4=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=AebQLyiq9JqFIF1yM8mbGV9/CXXxSUhxfGUCl86eKbgzWz3ywYnIIIeWRGQVjm2QYf0g4hjfKDKtzZ2Oe8V3vsXsAcK3UTie4vpJDkrqTabfHMFuIlC8OPCwYQOJBwMdL01wqUCsEeccNvfCdioDzxxXirY3hifLbASaZaFh3Yo= X-Yahoo-SMTP: OQskSLeswBC2kdNEVqHEYK1lxP8pzkbKWw-- X-YMail-OSG: 83oZg10VM1k9rzy2zrkpDzZE.OKJZr4VcQoIFn_t_njYerf Gtm0C.8MaoW8wmBJqZy2OnZ2ubn9hivyJu9be1fYE24s9beQM4UOqtdrVqny Bk3I5Tjbyw1bnnQIW1H_97rYyW4yOJMHog442Ep6SffBnEiqZ5d01MVqcM8Q SHQEWMdsIH.l.U_N.DKA.xnEBK3m2I2Sz7yJHqJRH.kGKL1qH7NqAOzFwO2d VKaEBhx6oSM3K6KWUXd8_A135plJqZiazZhdSeWgsJ0ofPJ2AV1xRNIc7TNI 8zcmYGamr.Qiv60D62dXrBjbKzBBFTtjR1nIo0UPfsDXNjYRxztwpbIA9tGa LmHu.rPcTbVXcwxVReWVkHCDuoKYj8a_R.QN4m0osEhe2.tFcR3CBDYohgqF oP2f6iUJe2w_pb3mVvqrfU30V8.3oGhDm0FgGeJK0o1._kKyU2cKFhBuGy2j _wn1t_Q6fkZ8ZI8rNHFVHy1JRuslGd6kQNAYJRF8oTuppfCGWfWErG2jp4uR .9eyaaBxQdGo1FnoQ7NZIF6lV6mmchNKxkawwY1J3i1DSYpfU1Qm.NnW7rWx aCMdpzdeg82NkPD6MeQfUbZjaEhsO5RFrasTs69UEa.SL6gcEJkli X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-284120982 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <562F02BD-7676-4902-9952-191CD01B183C@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Hans Lindauer X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_164568_AFPHjkQAAJxdTemQ2Qk1xXlcytQ Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:58:34 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 03:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4422 Lines: 99 --Apple-Mail-5-284120982 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I've done that with my light show, meaningfully limited is a good approach. = Let's call it "user friendly." On Jun 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote:= > With this device in one's setup, it might be fun to make a meaningfully li= mited MIDI control screen on the iPad, and allow members of the audience to p= ass it around, adjusting certain parameters during the performance... :) >=20 >=20 > On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:05 AM, mark francombe wrote: >=20 >> That said, I should mention that Hans=C2=B4box looks COOL AS FUCK and I a= m definately getting one...=20 >>=20 >> Heres the url if anyone missed it=20 >> http://www.wifimidi.com >>=20 >> Cos actually the name says it all... its NOT for computer musicians, beca= use then you have a wifi/network source, no... its for hardware people that w= ant to control their hardware from an iPhone/pad! >>=20 >> I am, for instance, planning on using it as a control surface, to control= 8 parameters in my TC fireworx.=20 >>=20 >> But I dont have one yet (Im broke as HELL right now... people, PLEEEEASE g= o and buy music or art from me, so I can buy Hans box!) >>=20 >> But will report when I do... >>=20 >> BTW, prinbting a skull on the box... pure genius, was the "must have" des= ign feature for me!! >>=20 >> --=20 >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >=20 --Apple-Mail-5-284120982 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I've done that with my light show, mean= ingfully limited is a good approach.  Let's call it "user friendly."

On Jun 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
With this device in one's s= etup, it might be fun to make a meaningfully limited MIDI control screen on t= he iPad, and allow members of the audience to pass it around, adjusting cert= ain parameters during the performance... :)


On Ju= n 3, 2011, at 1:05 AM, mark francombe wrote:

That said, I should mention that Han= s=C2=B4box looks COOL AS FUCK and I am definately getting one...

Her= es the url if anyone missed it
http://www.wifimidi.com

Cos a= ctually the name says it all... its NOT for computer musicians, because then= you have a wifi/network source, no... its for hardware people that want to c= ontrol their hardware from an iPhone/pad!

I am, for instance, planning on using it as a control surface, to contro= l 8 parameters in my TC fireworx.

But I dont have one yet (Im broke a= s HELL right now... people, PLEEEEASE go and buy music or art from me, so I c= an buy Hans box!)

But will report when I do...

BTW, prinbting a skull on the box...= pure genius, was the "must have" design feature for me!!
<= br>--
Mark Francombe
www= .markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user82= 5094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

= --Apple-Mail-5-284120982-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 08:22:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B7AE183463; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DE9EB46.9090007@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 04:22:30 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 644 Lines: 14 THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, June 4 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 09:04:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 675BE183461; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YUK31uf5ZULH5+9dDY5m2I3+2tpn8RBNIpyyGPo/m4M=; b=MM1c+nePo5zn6uwRrnst0J+P2OTcUrZyzRg80NB2K2lTKd05ZRwB9L4rbzHAXhL7An o17qxePFJfnOs0kGJiIS8Ngm9v1QxgwZKS0G0c95PUR0V4+e99HTYMPCjLyv1/UngIDs UcpzZZ3zjFULNZImiOo3lIcr9cwdlZbMZk3ok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lHfppnPe22x0nsCA5n7s9wSDtfs1fPLV9HtyqO4ZIrLZRuFGviTwjrtEQbjnttG4Eb XEvsmjh/f9KpIXgA4nwVKLh/w0vCLQ+v5nzIUMv44kAgLoBybHYv0VehE2CwLGIPElM2 /UoNBWHAjZcc5i3ZqSLs2X+qbiw2R/wGz7J/g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:04:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Instrumental looping covers for simple loopers From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1391 Lines: 49 Glory box ,i love looping that one;-) On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Samplehead wrote: > Hi Boris, > That's right for most of those I either stop loop and do the bridge/chorus > unaccompanied or undo/redo the harmonic content of the loop. Or if I'm using > Ableton I sometimes do actually build 2 loops (i.e. use the "intro" to build > the basic backing for the B section). > Cheers > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Boris Plotnikov wrote: >> >> > Jungle (Santana) >> Too long, not sure that it'll be cool, but I've to try. >> >> > Been Here Once Before (Eagle Eye Cherry) >> Chorus will not fit RC-2, pitty >> >> > Chain Of Fools (Aretha Franklin) >> Yes! Cool tune on one chord! >> >> > Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones) >> Some minor chord progression changes, Have to try it. >> >> > Superstition (Stevie Wonder) >> Long one chord vamp, but then bridge. Theoreticaly it's possible to >> play bridge with looper stopped. >> >> > Cocaine (Clapton) >> Again bridge, need to stop loop for bridge. >> >> > Teardrops (Womack & Womack) >> Too pop/r'n'b for my taste. >> >> > Love Is The Drug (Roxy Music) >> Yes, I have to try working on this tune, but again bridge. I have to >> get RC-50 for such tunes. >> >> I've forget best simple hit "Chameleon" be Herbie Hancock >> -- >> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov >> > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 09:25:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC9139BB23; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:content-type; bh=LRBprSkyeQ0XdV8mOQuzjq+3T3X17+o7VhIc21genOM=; b=QPUWPjmUGzxBJwdFM6MfHCAtLRr2EsKFjb+Rl2wskvVcmwRcfmyNWv8yiVC7tBwca1 UMeUqTalzbVaAHWE/HWMPxJAGqCAoqZztB3gKAUkJ4j1h3iYQ7kEBniBy+sU3bR0E5gx pmumPXK8yVsKYsmCe6HZKAEIC/qIPWKWIT/zs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; b=Jlxpx1YPNxxTSBQSRRA063a9YHsKbUsyWIlMaPg1f/jcroGNZrQWkDQEJqJHgOHLxA ALwg1MR7pMy/c9d5zLmBOAVdq6NluJcl0NNBtKhossiNNY4jT1UjZ7nl0ib0yKfJSqLd yB0+Qf/2UXSw4bLDVpMPn82iYEOj61iL8XPe8= Message-ID: <4DE9FA12.2050402@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 11:25:38 +0200 From: Adriano Di Giovanni Reply-To: adriano.digiovanni@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; it; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: How to patch instruments to the looper Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060200050000080906070401" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1780 Lines: 53 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060200050000080906070401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm a looping newbie: I started looping in January and while I'm learning how to create and perform I'm also improving my setup. I would like to ask you about the best way to patch my three instruments: voice, acoustic guitar and handsonic hpd10. While acoustic guitar and the handsonic can be simultaneously present at the looper input (an EHX 2880), voice can be * sent to the looper only; * sent to the P.A. only; * muted. All signals but the voice one are unbalanced. Thanks in advance for your suggestions, Adriano --------------060200050000080906070401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all,
I'm a looping newbie: I started looping in January and while I'm learning how to create and perform I'm also improving my setup.
I would like to ask you about the best way to patch my three instruments: voice, acoustic guitar and handsonic hpd10.
While acoustic guitar and the handsonic can be simultaneously present at the looper input (an EHX 2880), voice can be
  • sent to the looper only;
  • sent to the P.A. only;
  • muted.
All signals but the voice one are unbalanced.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions,
Adriano
--------------060200050000080906070401-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 10:36:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 605D19BB23; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 629668401/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.150/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.150 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8CAB8I6k1V0rWW/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgn2SCGIQSVM4sB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,319,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="629668401" Message-ID: <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 11:36:57 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1574 Lines: 47 Rick Walker wrote: > Responding to a posting by Petri about software failure, > it occurred to me that most sophisticated live loopers I know > have little strategies they use as performers, to cover equipment > failure. > > What are yours? > As Rick says, much 'equipment failure' turns out to be user error when it's analysed. Primary cause of problems (at least in my case) is adding a new piece of gear to your rig prior to the performance. e.g. Hit record on your first loop of a piece, and forget that you faded out the loop with your newly setup midi controller in the last piece. ..but of course there's 101 things that can go wrong. ...so here's my way of lessening the impact. 1) Practice on your live rig till you've made all the likely mistakes, and know how to deal with them. 2) If you dial up the wrong sound or play the wrong loop then only you know it's a mistake....so it's not a mistake. A lot of the time the only way an audience knows things have gone wrong is the performers re-action. 3) the looper's enemy is silence, be prepared to make some kind of noise right away. Just a very short loop of a single sound will give you a breathing space to work out what to do next. 4) Erased the main loop that you were going to bring back later in the piece? That's where it's a real advantage if you worked out how to build that loop quickly, and without long periods of 'setup'. 5) If a piece really can't be saved, go straight to the next thing seamlessly. (that's where the EDP has an advantage) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 10:59:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB1AA9BB23; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xQOazS4fJb7Md6ohIDlOFXQ3hhEfqbgnaLUQVCPYDo4=; b=Ebhf2i0cCYSAwoLocsGLgOCit+iAss1L/+SJGDE/yIj7DzQVYB11UI4Ptk/jPyWQ40 Gfs/u5TS1osabSoL6ImBft/aghJDZ+moxiU7cK3F3CJRNqz9VkP/GHfLlknNbc2EmwBJ 4AkqVYs72q8QCMg7LNJsfE+llJhqLJyPkLyhc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GB0sN2FtYkDfVmjsJilqlgI6UH9/MvWq9wWR5LisUwn77CbtFpOMvc4NuLmUptl2Z0 sttslt3f0daZ/mE+EsTax/X7lLMqHtjdXg0Hjr8PfO2nnHHG4P68nzyWZfDX3NOV65w9 w2VxGyaQ0wYTeb0Ic8H2vyJZkc2B89BBYhTFE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:59:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1865 Lines: 37 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:36 PM, andy butler wrote: > As Rick says, much 'equipment failure' turns out to be user error > when it's analysed. Oh so true! Here's the background to why I nowadays never fiddle with settings before a gig: I once forgot my Record Button in momentary mode instead of my usual toggle mode. The concert was a very intimate setting, kind of big living room style. I started out while two drummers were waiting to join in after I had established a funky loop. Playing an alto flute pitched down an octave I opened by playing without looping, trying to get into a groovy riff like Zawinol + bass on Weather Report's Black Market... you know. As I got the beat right I kicked the Record Switch to start snagging a two bar loop. But woops... what happened was that I snagged a loop of about 150 milliseconds length and it went DANG-DANG-DANG-DANG-DANG... sounding like a pneumatic drill on loudest volume. That was a scary moment. Luckily my face was already red and I was sweating after having played that funky flute solo (flute is not my premier instrument so my playing abilities suck quite a bit, especially in the breathing technique department). I picked up that machine beat DANG-DANG-DANG and danged along while pressing down the record button in a momentary way instead - so I ended up with making a completely different groove than was planned. The drummers could not play to that horrible thing so I started to substitute chunks to make it more musical. The facial expressions of the listeners were quite funny, I guess they took it for "highly advanced experimental music that you are supposed to dig if you are cool" ;-)) Some children did cover their ears in panic. Always trust the children :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 11:18:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50D22183462; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WE+s9VBcZhZMJ8mOokAdpuOUY0MZyyuiZlGstjxb1Ro=; b=ZPI2sbJ7mNFVgHHfiSVxKFkYl8ldKguEdLD3LFzm5gnAfD5GRrwnh+T8Vd2qsmKbDF HEjW6+KnICf+vsIoQwfsTS6dt9AyicGxffd60QHwRwgvbcxdKLmYLTznIXNNalCKNIKb 5GDckB4KVttXX7emKpkjYzeskn4ZnAx5CLsf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=x+LJA8wrLbISI9OILruBo3qTr0UYPnrNQ2v2jp/BmDPJoX6iDpw5q3XGdILoLqT0mH Qf8TBUfZSvwGssu85Ze6mzjmWfwjYCy4r463MdOGophGYhUH+NV0QiXhtVnDLQSHC2Me BdqlCtPuBCW6GX4ISUCMVOlzGPDH5pjQTmDmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <562F02BD-7676-4902-9952-191CD01B183C@yahoo.com> References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> <562F02BD-7676-4902-9952-191CD01B183C@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:18:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 715 Lines: 18 I don't want to totally discredit using a touch sensitive screen. I just don't want to do it while playing physical instruments and looping live. However, I would feel comfy with a touch screen (ipad, my iphone is too small) for doing a live sequencing show. I'm a big fan of the software Numerology that brings old analog, pre midi, sequencing techniques into the laptop world. That performance situation feels much more touch screen friendly to me, as you only bother with sound and planning ahead how to modulate the sequences that are throbbing. Keeping eyes fixed on a screen doesn't disturb that process. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 12:25:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69579183461; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com><4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:25:32 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2429 Lines: 59 LIMITER ıs your friend :) that brings us the question of how people use comporessors and limiters in impro based experimental music. any tricks, ideas? www.erdemhelvacioglu.com New duo album with Per Boysen out now. http://erdemhelvaciogluandperboysen.bandcamp.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:36 PM, andy butler > wrote: >> As Rick says, much 'equipment failure' turns out to be user error >> when it's analysed. > > > Oh so true! Here's the background to why I nowadays never fiddle with > settings before a gig: > > I once forgot my Record Button in momentary mode instead of my usual > toggle mode. The concert was a very intimate setting, kind of big > living room style. I started out while two drummers were waiting to > join in after I had established a funky loop. Playing an alto flute > pitched down an octave I opened by playing without looping, trying to > get into a groovy riff like Zawinol + bass on Weather Report's Black > Market... you know. As I got the beat right I kicked the Record Switch > to start snagging a two bar loop. But woops... what happened was that > I snagged a loop of about 150 milliseconds length and it went > DANG-DANG-DANG-DANG-DANG... sounding like a pneumatic drill on loudest > volume. That was a scary moment. Luckily my face was already red and I > was sweating after having played that funky flute solo (flute is not > my premier instrument so my playing abilities suck quite a bit, > especially in the breathing technique department). I picked up that > machine beat DANG-DANG-DANG and danged along while pressing down the > record button in a momentary way instead - so I ended up with making a > completely different groove than was planned. The drummers could not > play to that horrible thing so I started to substitute chunks to make > it more musical. The facial expressions of the listeners were quite > funny, I guess they took it for "highly advanced experimental music > that you are supposed to dig if you are cool" ;-)) Some children did > cover their ears in panic. Always trust the children :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 12:31:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22AF6183463; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IDdAW0s8aDLixFz44+As+rPwNewmn9hIIM/04ZW753o=; b=TqjjbStZQd7J5FyMnIeRk+J8+/MZqBj00TysKHYAziqT0XWDIXz2x+q8/xI5/tSOOM CjTJhMmAjL+0PoRYLezIdLoa5yKyzGS6Nn00xLyqstuaXMfK4qy+L9WjQu81OfOu2SsW WYqDtMmsHItohsCX2kKklIZLeshPqwJEWwh5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WXC5nTrklKpiMsFkwtFEPXvpjUoZhsGbyY3YOxWGJxGueP+J0ICyFHb9lC0n1EC1/h m03eINZ2dpow7mwle+m2LBa14nrpvKFm6ThgSjuTVFD9LVkZV2fR/A22EdLIcolEfMmg wjpwRlqXpXuk2iSSzVuiZ4jjKLdatf+GL7uu4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0btAwC.A.QLE.JWi6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 575 Lines: 15 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > LIMITER =C4=B1s your friend :) > > that brings us the question of how people use comporessors and limiters i= n > impro based experimental music. any tricks, ideas? Good question, Erdem! I like to slap a compressor over an effect return channel and use it as leveler side-chained from my live instrument audio input. Kind of makes it possible to "play the effects" too as part of your premier playing. Especially useful with reverb, I think. But others may have other ideas for this trick? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 14:20:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCA92183462; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 626369666/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.150/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.150 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AisCAOM+6k1V0rWW/2dsb2JhbAAMR4RKk13HYJAhgSuDbIEKBJUziwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,319,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="626369666" Message-ID: <4DEA3F28.5080205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:20:24 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com><4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> In-Reply-To: <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1006 Lines: 33 Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > LIMITER ıs your friend :) > > that brings us the question of how people use comporessors and limiters > in impro based experimental music. any tricks, ideas? ok, just my personal take never used 'em for safety and, partly for that reason, I never need 'em. One trick is to put a compressor into a feedback loop, (which I reckon I've heard Erdem do ;-). Whatever other processing is in the feedback loop the sound stays under control without running away to full blast distortion ever. It's a bit counter-intuitive tho', it would seem that a limiter would be the ideal choice for this job, but a very gentle compression slope works even better. For generating interesting acoustic feedback tones here's a trick... replace the mouthpiece of a wind instrument with a microphone that points into the instrument. Point the instrument at a speaker connected to the microphone and off you go. ...but don't forget the (low ratio) compressor! I call this a 'resophone'. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 14:25:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1B58183463; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aNNVO7CimI6eKuQZgIlyeBlNfLd5zzz/oIxOnBBxRAg=; b=ThEf+emDxHXSdKy0khjQCcgG9XxmOh05sXd+gyap7PliH0ItHq6SgV9yO/J1K4N5QE LOu5EuRvOxYexDYKbnJU133k5bgjMJU16TMz7dkhbsIzgx69J9lYs909nixWV4t6Wbgi sQq0CQ1Uka/ZeDATp4gpDnNsynqzZIkRVm324= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PrpVpfktbBHfl9NofX5sDdkxanKcTIuzWwmXNtZxjSPqx73frRiQ6z28cncHSfwdLh 5pkKLEg5bG3zgbPWzzNgsZ9LBK+SEniF1g54rhrDYUFgjRFn24N4IVAGPm6BbOCC6stK aQS7UJIPeBX9lmznoOl/RUOKntflvpUshGLLg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <63C1A6C7-A611-4374-A04D-6F7CCBA3EFE4@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <63C1A6C7-A611-4374-A04D-6F7CCBA3EFE4@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:25:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: no looping but by way of introduction... From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 845 Lines: 35 Ed, I know all the words to that first piece... :D ... 'tis a brave man, indeed, who wears his tights in public. Is your lute based on a Tiefenbr=FCcke? Whose variations are you using on "Greensleeves?" Are those your own? Best from a lapsed lutenist, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote= : > I played my first gig in over a year yesterday. It was streamed live on t= he > Internet and is still up. For how long, I don't know. My embarrassing bit= s > are at the beginning and at about two hours in. Just skip the first piece= , > it's awful. > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/15130542 > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 14:28:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7833E183463; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HtYbO6PoSh225EBpIfWDWdnvmpRIBYTSkWHEsG1pLbQ=; b=Fs6LMTAlW1f9VxdLYjW4QdYot4p5fjFRb8HArV/MFhQfbL9ApwH8WObhFJhcKScT3p Buu+3D/5KsZiEy91jTYbq1t7G5Gm+sQtZB2IObjulHx6G00DXqoMYlSvbwS1f1+WIoX8 1os1+ZgkTYv0sh66ke4SLfU05QA68XTkMVHKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=STYw+nGmkUfSDUtrZ6YWplPSJ9825Ua7Xe6p9YLaV9jSrUg9/xcG6WHSNdCc6gKEKl EIa3jumfvuK8z3vvDHgf+ELaRQDy8S4uqOdGKHEyJPl9nlHiN5fapcLGwQixu7lQA/Rc f8vKe/6WqKuQp5IRpek0zfQMxjcavyrvnJc/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <63C1A6C7-A611-4374-A04D-6F7CCBA3EFE4@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <63C1A6C7-A611-4374-A04D-6F7CCBA3EFE4@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:28:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: no looping but by way of introduction... From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-5oIj.A.b3F.DEk6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 639 Lines: 26 Also, nice to hear someone doing Neusidler, too! Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > I played my first gig in over a year yesterday. It was streamed live on the > Internet and is still up. For how long, I don't know. My embarrassing bits > are at the beginning and at about two hours in. Just skip the first piece, > it's awful. > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/15130542 > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 14:29:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE0FE183462; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=d7fwCBb5Y9jLds/8c5kH7SWxLoxEIYy0ljCx+GQxUkk=; b=tIvVglkuB+q2Vl3DHNT9DAy6u6unr/NVSSQC7F7uHw/mTVlREWGkyiRCtdq506SJzP LwnYznIBpTxjNtyPOJgQ8Scev98a+v0vTDkC2KIvgNYX55AbuUsH/Hef32Zf8xVJ1y7N vADpWh3ESAMUgQxY/mObuad3CdoaeBQBXS/yc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=nFqmzZQjGlpUnsOwVR/Ul6lRjkZbpIIXathz+mOAc9nlz6+it6F2CDOlTMEMhIF3YB 91JpkHji9lJT+87SKWJua3+RaYCK0gW+mWvOKKDum0ul9QeYLVMn93hpx5I/4YPxtPP7 7lKEp3/KTjGQEvYexq2AKTV5JT943KtP5ReAc= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-325570971 Subject: Short video clips of some Bass Loopin' covers Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:29:28 -0400 Message-Id: <8CE5B9E9-B2CB-499B-B437-F46E7314A4DC@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1184 Lines: 29 --Apple-Mail-4-325570971 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here is a couple clips of some double bass looping covers/arrangements = from shows the past two nights. http://vimeo.com/24650596 http://vimeo.com/24620346 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-4-325570971 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Here is a couple clips of some double bass looping covers/arrangements from shows the past two nights.



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Todd Matthews
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--Apple-Mail-4-325570971-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 14:30:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2A6D183465; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Lw/MHRjo/Q++1WA5Lpfyeqvd4vqP45taQd6H55HubDU=; b=a5J6a86nUXeE8tDgDyedavld5stFy9/RMMLbbgdVswogiak7FdioYjOisA7aElOCBx Oxe9ELZpd8x7LS48eYsYW1GrVvW7DYMB5YS3B8TQ+LYAH2jH4FVZSOnuqpCBtzVFrAhg PJAuCuxixO2DOaJnElVipI2fV1R1dl2X4lZw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=UI9b/sfSkjflWloCK83gaydZD93a1yB5YJVx3Cf3ZDH1FkgJtcoFTwt55mQpejK7qP 0ETg3lPv0YlefNtn7o17CBZk8AxB64wWOQ3h/NN6hIxKVjybI0sur3jZ8q4L/SX/Qo9g 2FkJ/hPH3pKCvBWdzMnuGCAYSDUjatq3YBcm8= References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> <17122334.3147.1307197337672.JavaMail.mobile-sync@yndi13> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <17122334.3147.1307197337672.JavaMail.mobile-sync@yndi13> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:30:29 +0200 Message-ID: <8195417391575022745@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 468 Lines: 12 Genius!! That's a must try!!! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 4 Jun 2011, at 16:20, andy butler wrote: > For generating interesting acoustic feedback tones here's a trick... > replace the mouthpiece of a wind instrument with a microphone > that points into the instrument. Point the instrument at a speaker > connected to the microphone and off you go. > ...but don't forget the (low ratio) compressor! > I call this a 'resophone'. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 14:44:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E651183473; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FfRTgLOXIhxfPmPYH6diIKYSLL4k3JietivavUxsA6k=; b=aFvhgX0lgJhQtObsEWZpTkBkdXrxiZg4ep6RfxsF67ZUi5YrrU+o1ORn/pwS/UBhuk Agc0dwI0xuWdqfpN7o8IH1abgedJshkXQMo7/VKh1/fjKDL64KpUfnt6I5gZ/EyVpnLp 0SrMsN8w8Rs1oRfSlnx+vmlsd7Vth30NzeSIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cZI5YoRvHh1u9jDTTT+0loucxGsIzv955tgz0uzyulitwmMtisCpiS0sV0DRx75rwc nYOE898jIwDOw0PX+4Mv9TMzJP/DNJoscEurqBgMsNzanedLJ0ZicijkgHxCwFzqwBls KxLtZd0NiSLAmJZgS3x5hQWnJhl4vFeUZ4Glw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8195417391575022745@unknownmsgid> References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> <17122334.3147.1307197337672.JavaMail.mobile-sync@yndi13> <8195417391575022745@unknownmsgid> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:44:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 804 Lines: 22 > On 4 Jun 2011, at 16:20, andy butler wrote: > >> For generating interesting acoustic feedback tones here's a trick... >> replace the mouthpiece of a wind instrument with a microphone >> that points into the instrument. Point the instrument at a speaker >> connected to the microphone and off you go. >> ...but don't forget the (low ratio) compressor! >> I call this a 'resophone'. Wow, interesting! Reminds me of the trick to gaffer tape a small loudspeaker to a guitar's neck and feed it from a split of the guitar's output. The "wind instrument equivalent" here would be to insert a wha pedal so you can "play" what feedback overtones the guitar noise shall slide into. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 14:50:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F4B39BB22; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=5Z3VqeCg+cKR3LNZnec4c9Rdqbnf3Hh6lcL7Um5eqoE=; b=bZi0afpk6V8mkjdHr4B5oSm+z9AynJ0Ymn/rGTXAG6jWdJribs4rMtaeZT1PBnHl9G ZLxctrQMbXDXQ5avu2XiSdYNorXiJ/ZVccAUfADp94JxLymNYBSD4ygRutP28OnhmyRD ZO725f81tGSlqIna0O+sJX4a8Gqmuo/xbdzfQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=gBjvLEK3ildKS/aR/jkVSlGDTDRMJaLQxyrE+hw8JmCjBe9scpm2Vv5pPwT+Hquuj3 kl2YQ2py7vh/cVXCaI3kDJIO3WiNfYdIZmd6fVJfX+fTcOtOSy6rHGyQ7OWAloPB1A7l wl5t2DiqoHfgF9Ah9Lzj1C2aMBOejSEv7Xq9M= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <8195417391575022745@unknownmsgid> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:50:18 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <639115DB-B98F-40AA-9305-867EA9820796@gmail.com> References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> <17122334.3147.1307197337672.JavaMail.mobile-sync@yndi13> <8195417391575022745@unknownmsgid> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 767 Lines: 23 If your clarinetist friend doesn't wanna let you use their instrument = for your 'Resophone project' I wonder if you could you just use pvc = instead? On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:30 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Genius!! That's a must try!!! >=20 > Sent from my (advertisement removed) >=20 > On 4 Jun 2011, at 16:20, andy butler wrote: >=20 >> For generating interesting acoustic feedback tones here's a trick... >> replace the mouthpiece of a wind instrument with a microphone >> that points into the instrument. Point the instrument at a speaker >> connected to the microphone and off you go. >> ...but don't forget the (low ratio) compressor! >> I call this a 'resophone'. >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 14:58:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52FAD183465; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4NlGm+hxw6KXnDpw2EC2HNfVnN2hi3vM5GGCGavSCmA=; b=UpZQ4uxtYQpNGE4mzhq9ObzhZBe/8XCaOn9SOhjFJwnZ8T9LgmuA2uBJmir9zsztGq lr/25F+sw629pBvzz/14c8B2M47OVhxpGGf/KX1xGw1Vqc9GqItyglVmWtj4i/7otiw0 6fxphJgM3b/0ytnqP+am6aifEFdDdCUChegnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QnuJvk9Mc8KhB2hhxzg+cg4yDsQa37nCVHU5IAXtsA5O2JoCcvsDINKXmpM855c/X/ uq8BI9FUFtWOcf6cU6jiDND+Vz5LR23zuH/1jDuSnb4lYn9/gM/tEVnjRKZYpYxGCcgq OXLX2mLeNg0lhJWhiB1U5bQgHBx14OM2CJ6WU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DEA3F28.5080205@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> <4DEA3F28.5080205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:58:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 691 Lines: 17 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM, andy butler wrote: > For generating interesting acoustic feedback tones here's a trick... > replace the mouthpiece of a wind instrument with a microphone > that points into the instrument. Point the instrument at a speaker > connected to the microphone and off you go. > ...but don't forget the (low ratio) compressor! > I call this a 'resophone'. It just hit me that this is also how a *talk box* works! ;-) But instead of a wind instrument you are leading the air stream (of guitar sound) into your mouth while vocalizing words and then amplifying it through a mic and PA. This creates the illusion of the guitar "talking". Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 18:48:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 763B7183460; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FUwrexvLNq2HDgFd114N6yXAT5orZtdo6krTMpmh+fY=; b=WIOtJtvWeoz4M4Pz1IyI318Awr3QKwNTzqxEe8A3s8K2erqJHM3nu57mNiuIzkBucD uBjwHOFmdGaLeaRAbrwOHG+hpgu7YJFK7v/ZpTbTJtObUOi5O9pFfsf07l7dyj/rPABC EEl6o9K2I/a+v4i9HRuPgUoGA/2kjz4Fvw3dA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dgPhKokKgCwN5vYfaKVSxtduC9z8rqRAp8rpI1Ebp1OJ4k4RoRPbOkmYcHyr5J++cy wnehtFT2cL9FCiWv3+p8Wi/XWh0BmZ5EQifY3bdLjv2esGEp2d+Pzs8XvPHhwdgmfIFU 6Hs7s1U6k72q0p4o83vx+RMdXznvxAcZQH6Wo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DE97636.8040608@cruzio.com> References: <4DE97636.8040608@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:47:58 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Hardware/Software Looper Failure Rates in Concert was frisell/pds8000-alternatives... From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64762b217559604a4e74fce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1989 Lines: 64 --0016e64762b217559604a4e74fce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Seems my prococative take on this subject spurred a little conversation VERY GOOD Things have been on the quiet side here lately. :-D 2011/6/4 Rick Walker > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> But software has its own advantages too - ask the guy who just lugged >> a large suitcase containing 75 pounds of equipment on public >> transportation last night! >> > LOL, no shit, sherlock. > > I was bereft that I wasn't able to attend that show. > How did it go, Matt? > > yours, Rick > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --0016e64762b217559604a4e74fce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems my prococative take on this subject spurred a little conversation
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VERY GOOD

Things have been on the quiet side here lately.
:-D

2011/6/4 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
But software has its own advantages too - ask the guy who just lugged
a large suitcase containing 75 pounds of equipment on public
transportation last night!
LOL, =A0no shit, sherlock.

I was bereft that I wasn't able to attend that show.
How did it go, =A0Matt?

yours, =A0 Rick




--
Petri Lahtinen

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--0016e64762b217559604a4e74fce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 18:48:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B98BEBBA26; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3nHTDvtXA5S563aVv5BjZ3Ax5C86hT9gOMTciPjsuNc=; b=IdsmSgju3Cch3SKNPuJcHuYUGUcKkqN03vF/Y1i0STc7eq0TuNlOzm85rhVOCjR1jC XLTWOecjoHyeYDTxwj2sF7h4QDh+GBG/cWR9x5MWJ5HxTw2msBQWnJOjmhchPloMDTWB 21HqGH1tGmrVYfeLTnDQ4bpkA0AnTsxWIDr58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Q98DHYIksOb11vpjqev98WX+vZmLsMHCLykB9XzfB/RGoGnPlzkdaxYnynPGFrdUlX +8vtOjmx8haYCKP3xRsck4NWUP6leBJkSNFHZNrsz8uXllGUDc7nOIsnEaJnKCSPOGye gSO7HukT4usaIpINp2OIn+mczeCWGC9DjfL3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DE97636.8040608@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:48:27 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Hardware/Software Looper Failure Rates in Concert was frisell/pds8000-alternatives... From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636284fe6dd058b04a4e75076 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 330 Lines: 11 --001636284fe6dd058b04a4e75076 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 provocative... trying to type my english with these COMPUTERS... :-) --001636284fe6dd058b04a4e75076 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 provocative... trying to type my english with these COMPUTERS... :-)
--001636284fe6dd058b04a4e75076-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 19:56:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ECAF183462; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 629784266/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.150/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.150 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiQCAISM6k1V0rWW/2dsb2JhbAAMR4RKk13GWo99gSuDbIEKBJUziwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,320,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="629784266" Message-ID: <4DEA8DD5.1000708@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 20:56:05 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure References: <4DE9612F.9030801@cruzio.com> <4DEA0AC9.8030408@tiscali.co.uk> <67246AE31814463DA9F74BE8D09078D0@MAC> <4DEA3F28.5080205@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0TgZyD.A.yhC.Y3o6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 940 Lines: 25 Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM, andy butler wrote: >> For generating interesting acoustic feedback tones here's a trick... >> replace the mouthpiece of a wind instrument with a microphone >> that points into the instrument. Point the instrument at a speaker >> connected to the microphone and off you go. >> ...but don't forget the (low ratio) compressor! >> I call this a 'resophone'. > > > It just hit me that this is also how a *talk box* works! ;-) > > But instead of a wind instrument you are leading the air stream (of > guitar sound) into your mouth while vocalizing words and then > amplifying it through a mic and PA. This creates the illusion of the > guitar "talking". you'd have to swallow the mic, ..turn up the gain and then use the old puppeteers' trick of jigging the guitar up and down (completely different principle of operation to that used by Peter Frampton) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 20:40:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EB7C18348A; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yaNJ1X4aWLxncy2Os0N792CetyQ8YkufVAzd1aCC4os=; b=l6QwN5dNXyOc26wT3BsI3dTQT8ppDIKwZencL6EmzyUFFmLrmzZEyuymbfwKh+rKc5 Ul2r4MGkf+vkhyLfombqtbhu2VgHUUsboATit8oNMfad94Bi0bs76j/iSvZngtI4JLD9 mFfzdETOxGHXMSWURlwzGY8PeqPOOO7hX8lrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ImSMU6WKnS9aIf9upP2TS7Vme60Ap9AKU9oouqbdlkGAUwDuTikjH4yTmn9B9/RNSR gGsfkEfx8yfIOZViRC8mN+C5Utn9b8tmJABxUC7mql75oXcJx4MMn5eChMGduHIM4p3K mb+vRWapZXcKhIPniUZc20gGdC4mfc6EAEP2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> <562F02BD-7676-4902-9952-191CD01B183C@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:40:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's your looper control strategy? From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1736d548ee04a4e8e18a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2861 Lines: 75 --0015174c1736d548ee04a4e8e18a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey fellow loopers...Just loaded a new vid.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPHskUUNx00 Thanks, Jason On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I don't want to totally discredit using a touch sensitive screen. I > just don't want to do it while playing physical instruments and > looping live. > > However, I would feel comfy with a touch screen (ipad, my iphone is > too small) for doing a live sequencing show. I'm a big fan of the > software Numerology that brings old analog, pre midi, sequencing > techniques into the laptop world. That performance situation feels > much more touch screen friendly to me, as you only bother with sound > and planning ahead how to modulate the sequences that are throbbing. > Keeping eyes fixed on a screen doesn't disturb that process. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --0015174c1736d548ee04a4e8e18a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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O= n Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want to totally discredit using a touch sensitive screen. I
just don't want to do it while playing physical instruments and
looping live.

However, I would feel comfy with a touch screen (ipad, my iphone is
too small) for doing a live sequencing show. I'm a big fan of the
software Numerology that brings old analog, pre midi, sequencing
techniques into the laptop world. That performance situation feels
much more touch screen friendly to me, as you only bother with sound
and planning ahead how to modulate the sequences that are throbbing.
Keeping eyes fixed on a screen doesn't disturb that process.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--0015174c1736d548ee04a4e8e18a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 20:44:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49BB1BBA28; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 666810.62904.bm@omp1055.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307220268; bh=Q6XA4fhQ8Alv9lNmu3tiFN+8uKMpGIiTx6v3v0wP3bE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TnUykElUhoioz+F6Qo12sHrFh9lX5jA86DZs/NRqWgDRLkb2cizCQaXbIca3LU98t+XtQEvN6zSM9S3nrrF5ffcRP3qRxd0ctkQosR0O/uxavdWgKI2cMOoViGl9wgKELT6g0DRu9XUBaHLEoeRbyIx4WritomBtJfpwF/ZzYy8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dXDJqrT/KBJQFW2oSbRpZcW/40tQNDjSwOLK8xDYEcOTNPmLcgPp3p0eDdK8og6fp14nEgnTjh2voenyWRUvLzg17FmL7GIrQ+W+OQ25izH6SpVGbt2/z7WK8i4YFVDgTKcYEbdHwphN487q6WyqiqagJIAqMex1zUO3hBHBUqA=; Message-ID: <438741.53304.qm@web65814.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8cH2XxYVM1mM4IdsbHMs0LhKM_RU7RjdyL_ZuxvzXVaNC3m HR7RjKcYaHoaoC4D4lBDpL9t7ulF0ejCGNHUKXFhNH1KzhiseL5EhGbwiPjg pN2KKAWlBIqgIkM74kK4_fdPqw0bPg2zc0J36ncbRy8WJBjFYFbXpIMphoZi pNzIBGy3s9SPhK.HzBlUfSdJOy.wkwwBOt8Th34rS0tjHCrFeETVlYU26z27 vWZFuR1k8XjxTgCORv1ot33HUTMYl8cPQadxFYpoWRA9lgryziNGNUC..OJI v4IgS22RhdVOM0RYYaT0Xe9d7XgeVWhgfiaVOmDcblOX8vBEg46p_B_srImO _tAdLSITknXP_ADbimDTmthI.0DQ5V.EuYCb5HTjeWBcqzNt1jsFfqVdXl2R BZHJx.G.BjlL6RAEy1eKZ_2Nlrct499pW9HYHzeUZ41Jo6mPXoXcM9QFAGzJ MQbYxYEaPcaiYrFLp6qvMIIWleuXpptnOxx6ZHsGABY3gWS87i8Pi5s8EkVN _ZvjJP07aXLDIagHqbqrznAHgJN_hMGgHhV4ApViN1WHgmKLnU5sUt2dlg0R yS3JTQpc74QlN5lOEVPhoHwpEdnnc9eqlxxJcgc16DJH1GCtnov0PDdok4xa V21Y- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.303096 References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> <562F02BD-7676-4902-9952-191CD01B183C@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:44:28 -0700 (PDT) From: jason finnern Subject: NEW VIDEO...HOPE YOU LIKE IT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-583404465-1307220268=:53304" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4727 Lines: 68 --0-583404465-1307220268=:53304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A=0AHey fellow loopers...Just loaded a new vid..=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtu= be.com/watch?v=3DwPHskUUNx00=0A=0A=0AThanks,=0AJason=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=A0=0A= =0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Jason Finnern =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Sat, June 4, 2011 = 1:40:34 PM=0ASubject: Re: What's your looper control strategy?=0A=0A=0AHey = fellow loopers...Just loaded a new vid..=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DwPHskUUNx00=0A=0A=0AThanks,=0A=0AJason=0A=0A=0A=A0=0AOn Sat, Jun 4, 201= 1 at 4:18 AM, Per Boysen wrote:=0A=0AI don't want to = totally discredit using a touch sensitive screen. I=0A>just don't want to d= o it while playing physical instruments and=0A>looping live.=0A>=0A>However= , I would feel comfy with a touch screen (ipad, my iphone is=0A>too small) = for doing a live sequencing show. I'm a big fan of the=0A>software Numerolo= gy that brings old analog, pre midi, sequencing=0A>techniques into the lapt= op world. That performance situation feels=0A>much more touch screen friend= ly to me, as you only bother with sound=0A>and planning ahead how to modula= te the sequences that are throbbing.=0A>Keeping eyes fixed on a screen does= n't disturb that process.=0A>=0A>Greetings from Sweden=0A>=0A>Per Boysen=0A= >www.boysen.se=0A>www.perboysen.com=0A>www.looproom.com internet music hub= =0A>=0A>=0A --0-583404465-1307220268=:53304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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I don't want to totally discredit using= a touch sensitive screen. I
just don't want to do it while playing phys= ical instruments and
looping live.

However, I would feel comfy wi= th a touch screen (ipad, my iphone is
too small) for doing a live sequen= cing show. I'm a big fan of the
software Numerology that brings old anal= og, pre midi, sequencing
techniques into the laptop world. That performa= nce situation feels
much more touch screen friendly to me, as you only b= other with sound
and planning ahead how to modulate the sequences that a= re throbbing.
Keeping eyes fixed on a screen doesn't disturb that proces= s.

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Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub<= BR>

--0-583404465-1307220268=:53304-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 21:48:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A127183475; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6FC5672B-E2DB-4EBB-B56A-658BB544B775@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Strategies to Cover Onstage Equipment/User Failure Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:47:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 43 Lines: 3 Always trust the children :-) so true :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 21:53:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 718A7183486; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=m9fbHv7qNAEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=R7fJ3SXtD-8QKDfKjIwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=voZrjb6_8qcA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <438741.53304.qm@web65814.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: NEW VIDEO...HOPE YOU LIKE IT Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:53:32 -0700 References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> <562F02BD-7676-4902-9952-191CD01B183C@yahoo.com> <438741.53304.qm@web65814.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 183 Lines: 13 Nice Jason. On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:44 PM, jason finnern wrote: > > Hey fellow loopers...Just loaded a new vid.. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPHskUUNx00 > > > Thanks, > Jason From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 22:15:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BF59183475; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D3nq534Hl8AtGqumgdjqKlUpSTjuw1k6lGIO44K93bQ=; b=KrGRQ1MoJ2T12m1jLeW1IlU5oRhRaBWYh0Q/gcHfnGrhokd5hNFX2fqSZ5CmuNGU0H 7UKhTZEs/i9DfLGJh0e/aQEWmZtiYEWh8IBgJUpLqozWI4JP0p2Z+K+46WQN5f1mt+9w ZbYn4956CsqrETFXrTupBRyCTBAWwkDVoGNCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P99e5bVDag8xBqehyiYfl4q4aV0wmOWxZcAG+rLOjQhI26R65gCsctidXr0zp/yDWT ntsc83EdhCfJkZe5D6ubDNav3/V7YM3ASqhAti9pk7FIwcTgnZ46H5z65gphkQAmrQTc P4fMmn3bWXHqn2unE6tSCmvKv7kViF/6rQOXc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> <562F02BD-7676-4902-9952-191CD01B183C@yahoo.com> <438741.53304.qm@web65814.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 00:15:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NEW VIDEO...HOPE YOU LIKE IT From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 436 Lines: 26 very nice Jason! i like the post fx u are using sounds like some kind of arpegiator what is that? are u using ableton? On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:53 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > Nice Jason. > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:44 PM, jason finnern wrote: > >> >> Hey fellow loopers...Just loaded a new vid.. >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwPHskUUNx00 >> >> >> Thanks, >> Jason > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 4 22:24:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB4BE18348A; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pqab7BTcWopgSqzoxE8yLKM7e1fqQqPsxFvCP1R+lbg=; b=NscE0EoZhNLwWjEIRe6vRDMgrVG/WX2pVgT8AOh+9GG0/F996jY2H6mG+ux/GhjS8l hc9+WQDCYSTmzGEJVTr3/T4ygIzD/s5p3XTBG2bpfGWaPZMijBaYwiEVTaTvSPMYCE9H xWndC+mNEDRIa3YyIp4LXZ9269VIRetLKw4fI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Pfz2fp/DQr14xjuWhVP43x921s3V00hSj90dqJo2XKZqMZyFZHMJ1DGci0kd9Ziv6F BJSfWp2H7Vzd3rH4Z+2p2rbW9U6EdkswjDEv5g2NYO3moevfk2BCSgpkkATElyJ/bFmm tjUgQGjEpCq54UT7qHkTzszunitbenw63lPcQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DE88A0F.6060708@cruzio.com> <562F02BD-7676-4902-9952-191CD01B183C@yahoo.com> <438741.53304.qm@web65814.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:24:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NEW VIDEO...HOPE YOU LIKE IT From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0f82b8673f04a4ea559a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2518 Lines: 84 --0015174c0f82b8673f04a4ea559a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Louie....I'm using a roland sp555 sampler I just got...Trying to get away from pc stuff these days and use more outboard gear...Just something cool about that to me right now.. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Louie Angulo w= rote: > very nice Jason! > i like the post fx u are using sounds like some kind of arpegiator > what is that? are u using ableton? > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:53 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn > wrote: > > Nice Jason. > > > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:44 PM, jason finnern wrote: > > > >> > >> Hey fellow loopers...Just loaded a new vid.. > >> > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwPHskUUNx00 > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jason > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > --0015174c0f82b8673f04a4ea559a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Louie....I'm using a roland sp555 sampler I just got...Trying to= get away from pc stuff these days and use more outboard gear...Just someth= ing cool about that to me right now..

On = Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
very nice Jason!
i like the post fx u are using sounds like some kind of arpegiator
what is that? are u using ableton?

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:53 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
> Nice Jason.
>
> On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:44 PM, jason finnern wrote:
>
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>> Hey fellow loopers...Just loaded a new vid..
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwPHskUUNx00
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jason
>
>



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--0015174c0f82b8673f04a4ea559a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 04:38:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96353183465; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 04:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZxRJG83OQV6RnIop7tD17UBlxde0RC5W5Fv1Hm5g8GY=; b=D2fVzVoZ1iIreaxik/66AfdwtMHcApKrKg5GNs4JtPvvixw9bBR2eYvGQkshWobZ9A nG7TMBdWrh25I02KwhjjDLp0b+SqjtpJTMB9eMk4Ss45LMmcwngzwnvsNZZt4UmWOqWW dSw5yPvYZI3fMcQzkex6gwx9R20m8OolN5hy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=x7G3yfl/W40AVnYt6gaFifLPpQol/M/4vQx1w15UnZMvw5i/Qhn/8YrBgD6AXns959 dh6TdMtBK7x+vc4ijfYrXJmBw+BiRCPg/vhQ3MTOLfmgiP32U/WTg8plC7bUPf+Uy1Bx IxPXUGESd0QOHrBDga10vV9lMa7erdxnhjgGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CE5B9E9-B2CB-499B-B437-F46E7314A4DC@gmail.com> References: <8CE5B9E9-B2CB-499B-B437-F46E7314A4DC@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:38:45 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Short video clips of some Bass Loopin' covers From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51d256cf2922504a4ef8ff2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 04:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 314 Lines: 12 --bcaec51d256cf2922504a4ef8ff2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 WOW. f***ing incredible. you rock! --bcaec51d256cf2922504a4ef8ff2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW. =A0f***ing incredible. =A0you rock!
--bcaec51d256cf2922504a4ef8ff2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 05:33:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFBEB183473; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 05:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZaSAFHyuL9tc6HMzhLgig/eVTrH2iPJHgkqise08JBQ=; b=kU2M6WWWUh8e3vPa5phj4r6IVnUQ4OnIJbn2AYwkxQ/0nf1zQLDNvKqhYj2qlRAj/8 cY1Q9H5TlFLUFqPJ+ql5ET30rMmiY3Kl/+5J7MZm15kc7eOxHiXby0F2fHzRYAOLSqiw WzNu1Rg3S/E75YdjkwlnAhiFh6tiRaNZ8zdPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZoTlB5N5PsI660Ffbv/8kEsqNbKg+ufvrY5Y7wh4fj7NzN2vqDOpXpyH5mbe06N776 t7X1hEoGPp2ANFC+U/rYUDxErRAq8H71h1SHG2kSrpM+9RWzQQc+V0cFiDeA55WKgtil 3nWewi6BXLEDUV8rRmruv0RqSdn9h8OrXrTfc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:03:16 +0930 Message-ID: Subject: EDP repair in Australia From: "r.domain" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a287e52a3d04a4f052d0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 05:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1301 Lines: 35 --20cf3054a287e52a3d04a4f052d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, I've had a faulty EDP ever since I bought it years ago when they discontinued the Gibson blackface EDPs. It works for a bit but then it starts glitching out and it won't let you select various things on the control panel amongst other things which renders in useless. Is there any recommended places in South Australia or Australia where I can get this thing fixed? It's been like this since new :( Regards, Ritchie -- aritchie.com --20cf3054a287e52a3d04a4f052d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

I've had a faulty EDP ever since I bought it= years ago when they discontinued the Gibson blackface EDPs. =A0It works fo= r a bit but then it starts glitching out and it won't let you select va= rious things on the control panel amongst other things which renders in use= less. =A0Is there any recommended places in South Australia or Australia wh= ere I can get this thing fixed? =A0It's been like this since new =A0:(<= /div>

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--20cf3054a287e52a3d04a4f052d0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 08:28:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05204183473; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 619959366/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.213/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.213 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkCAHY9601V0rbV/2dsb2JhbAAMR5gc1EeGIQSVM4sB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,322,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="619959366" Message-ID: <4DEB3E43.5080003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 09:28:51 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP repair in Australia References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 713 Lines: 24 First thing to do would be to check the internal connections and re-seat the chips. It would have been checked at the factory, so it's likely that something worked loose in transit. andy r.domain wrote: > Hi all, > > I've had a faulty EDP ever since I bought it years ago when they > discontinued the Gibson blackface EDPs. It works for a bit but then it > starts glitching out and it won't let you select various things on the > control panel amongst other things which renders in useless. Is there > any recommended places in South Australia or Australia where I can get > this thing fixed? It's been like this since new :( > > Regards, > > Ritchie > > -- > aritchie.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 08:54:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2686A183473; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-05_03:2011-06-04,2011-06-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106050015 Message-id: <893C06A4B32C4DCEBEF97FB660FB5AA2@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DEB3E43.5080003@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: EDP repair in Australia Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:54:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1133 Lines: 37 Probably heat related. Run it with the top cover off, see if that helps. If not, touch the chips with your fingers to see if any are heating up. Might as well reseat the chips before all that. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 1:28 AM Subject: Re: EDP repair in Australia > First thing to do would be to check the internal connections and re-seat > the chips. > > It would have been checked at the factory, so it's likely > that something worked loose in transit. > > andy > > r.domain wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I've had a faulty EDP ever since I bought it years ago when they >> discontinued the Gibson blackface EDPs. It works for a bit but then it >> starts glitching out and it won't let you select various things on the >> control panel amongst other things which renders in useless. Is there >> any recommended places in South Australia or Australia where I can get >> this thing fixed? It's been like this since new :( >> >> Regards, >> >> Ritchie >> >> -- >> aritchie.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 10:06:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAEDD183473; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 10:06:10 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:59:29 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110605095929.61120@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9F0AE27F-CCD1-40B4-87CE-11F9A22A55B7@baymoon.com> <81C3EF78-3E14-4A89-97ED-9F54C6C2BF52@charter.net> Subject: Re: Harmonica Player from Russia To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+1+ax2FO611aabokMFuOquW89siRAb0wAXvUHKl3 s9RqrY/PbV6sCyxf4wGh+Nf9BOAunEHR2MRA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 1jaZbYR2eSEqX8h4kHUhNe1+IGRvb8Az Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 598 Lines: 19 Hi Boris welcome to LD! Great to hear you playing the harp :-) I think you're the first other harmonica playing looper I've encountered on LD. In fact, practicing harmonica is the main reason I've neglected looping recently. I play chromatically on a "diatonic harp", but rather using a special tuning (Augmented) mostly with a lot of bending, less with overblows. Best regards Buzap PS: this is a harmonica improvisation on m. eastern music: http://soundcloud.com/buzap/orientalharp -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 15:12:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC9D9183486; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=MWSCaKKmWlMt4bW6G_MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EDP repair in Australia Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:12:01 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1012 Lines: 33 Ritchie, Are you using the stock 7-button footpedal or are you using a MIDI device of some sort to control it? Sometimes one of those switches in the pedal can break or get stuck on (internally) and throw all the other controls into chaos. If you are using MIDI and are certain the problem is with the unit itself (not the controller) then try reseating the chips. If one pin is not making proper contact it can cause all sorts of havoc. As for repair folks in Oz I have no idea. Best, Ted On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:33 PM, r.domain wrote: > Hi all, > > I've had a faulty EDP ever since I bought it years ago when they > discontinued the Gibson blackface EDPs. It works for a bit but then > it starts glitching out and it won't let you select various things > on the control panel amongst other things which renders in useless. > Is there any recommended places in South Australia or Australia > where I can get this thing fixed? 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--0-693270973-1307300540=:23045-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 20:06:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8467183463; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dcwj4Oke2WKxJT0hVB3HIC4T2AYsy2kBkORD7WWpslo=; b=bR9Ob7MDkpwV5pN87F193K7vSDIHONbx1HRlS6EJRLY6JxhLKRuMv3j451dsZiAEFT L8GdmKPk49f9R9y9iuoBtE34/fsvTS4+fzDEEjhZe3ZWsDPPMjN5nHdfcmg9fVRdk97c xSfxN4ydOrMbEp9mWqkXnQis4yDH8jRx8V5Qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n5iBkd0FtoDoWZyuUZEPZCdeYrhNJikcvCSWoacEGRZZA3jLY8xoh6craK1EGfmvwR 4D+aG2KSJn48KOj9EvIOQ5ccak/yEzp5VleYPzRRQW46w70C5C7ecPrJjRB1OyW+BAG2 VqFnm5fIFeQXxDjc25Au7rOfv94T4tJiGG00s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <256451.23045.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <256451.23045.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:06:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound is Art: Seeking Submissions From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <07IBr.A.tRC.7G-6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1990 Lines: 71 Hopefully have something new to submit in the next week or so :) On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Apologies for cross posting :-) > _____________________________________________________________________ > > I am eager for a new exciting sounds to populate my growing blog, Sound i= s > Art. > > http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart > > > With 1000+ subscribers, it is a great place to share your work be heard! = I > hope to post recordings of your environment, sound art, home made > instruments and other audio oddities. In particular, I am looking for the > unique. There will be no compensation for these submissions but hopefully > some satisfaction in sharing. > > SOUND WORKS ARE PRESENTED IN THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES > > ARCHIVAL RECORDINGS: Old vinyl snippets and other bits of sound history > > FIELD RECORDINGS: Recordings taken from the natural environment with mini= mal > studio processing. > > UNUSUAL INSTRUMENTS & GEAR: Recordings from unique electronic and acousti= c > instruments. > > PERFORMANCE: Excerpts from live sound art performances. > > PROCESS: Sound art compositions with interesting source material and stud= io > processing. > > SOUND ODDITIES: Uncategorized interesting sound phenomena. > > To contribute please email me these three items: > > 1. A description, written in your email body, about the process, content > and/or other details regarding the recording. > > 2. An mp3 sound clip. > > 3. A high quality jpeg (150 by 150 pixels) that is depictive of your > sound(s) in some way. If you have supplemental photos, you can send those > too (but extra images are not required). > > Please email to: margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com > > I will do my best to honor all submissions that fit the above criterion. > Submit as many times as you like and please do not fret if I don=92t get = back > to you right away, I will! > > > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Margaret Noble > http://margaretnoble.net > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 20:49:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 682E3183489; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VSZLRjDiA/LDTsvZqunn9RtNUWwEJ/CQbYK7TOMgqcA=; b=pjIv+mX45G0cGzBI4cAR5DZGE6BcEeZ1l5BCIhhBG60WdWyd/nHE8GKiZshiQb4PrQ 47NwpIFYid8eL1fgeuHjtB8xneYxOeKV9pw5mFLhz3yRQCswJm/4iZSYxGp+fdpLLHNq bO4JBjekyAFjyymhlMhSNLrER9IOmx7Ve1wWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SChqShMUh2ZTKh6HOz8ge2y43Wz0UfYjdz/YYBGAEK8BLCvSOCzule8RZtmYHLqmXa nCz8YC69WQSXezOxHQ8biz9IKhI8y/bOmwWBfaqXTBz/glqS1DJi3dyMGm5JM3BhyJ9P H1i0JKNscEHGgPGEID57UaM8Djnfk0pp2Ihxs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:49:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: marcus kirby To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001e680f14e4e571a004a4fd1e35 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1043 Lines: 23 --001e680f14e4e571a004a4fd1e35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I currently have one edp, but I'm getting another. I generally start out with two to four guitar loops which turn into one polyrhythm, then beatbox and add spacey vocals. I want to remove the first two loops though, since things get busy rather quickly. Generally, I think I could remove them after the eighth bar or so. How do you guys remove the original loops and add new ones without cluttering things up? --001e680f14e4e571a004a4fd1e35 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

I currently have one edp, but I'm getting another.

I generally start out with two to four guitar loops which turn into one polyrhythm, then beatbox and add spacey vocals.

I want to remove the first two loops though, since things get busy rather quickly. Generally, I think I could remove them after the eighth bar or so.

How do you guys remove the original loops and add new ones without cluttering things up?

--001e680f14e4e571a004a4fd1e35-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 21:04:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD37183473; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zMqYVhmqJjP5qxaXa6qRBptkSMeJKRAoduSzjwN+77Y=; b=B7Go13Vk5Piv/si119M+evVHn/HF+b7Xv3mnKr2kx04rbCzjerkcu8C1qCxYfb34Ev Q9yFCvBmgtS9fx7mKh+42TbvDOiI9RtEI7whSIV+4/DJ6/HSTWqU6psPMGAml3dEWbiv gxc/qaxHpBxCGdmDjRGrG00FLTJP4if5BCAQ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SS5QntVznjGk6nZz4iS9X3g1pi9nbjVc+pdcDd2XDSPmdz5DaJ3qWQ/VHMy6+WB6Aq y1LJ5mmQGLk3NaKUkYck57mWv91VtukToYJL2mDV++24+G3rikew99tJa6xkY0rio71G /H35Rj3HZenGx7jK+4/4mXxJnrfS6UcWWkIfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 23:04:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <3yaSbD.A.vHD.D9-6NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2018 Lines: 50 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:49 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I currently have one edp, but I'm getting another. > > I generally start out with two to four guitar loops which turn into one > polyrhythm, then beatbox and add spacey vocals. > > I want to remove the first two loops though, since things get busy rather > quickly. Generally, I think I could remove them after the eighth bar or so. > > How do you guys remove the original loops and add new ones without > cluttering things up? Hi Marcus, I'm not sure if you really are talking about multiple loops or if you are meaning multiple layers of one loop? When I used an EDP I usually set it to "More Loops = 5". With that setting I was able to record a first quick loop and then go to the next loop while copying the content of the first loop. Then might add some more layers to loop 2 for a while and cool things down again by going back to loop 1 (while playing over it without overdubbing - still keeping loop 1 as the original recording). Then I jumped from loop 1 into loop 3 while copying the content of loop 1 and started layering different tonal parts into loop 3. etc, etc... With this technique you can set up a song very quickly, but keep in mind that you have to start with making a first loop that will work together with a lot of the other loops to come. A second way is to use the Undo button. A third way is to use feedback. A fourth way is to use Substitute in combination with a setting that lets you mix how much of the old audio layers will be kept under the new slices you cut into the loop. This only works in the alternative performance modes. I found Replace Mode to work best for me, but I know that for example Andy Butler (that knows more about the EDP than I do) prefers Expert Mode. I lended my EDP to a friend some years ago and have not got it back yet, so I'm focusing on Mobius only now for looping. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 21:25:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0CFE183463; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=nSrIvr3+7YJfHQaCj+xsy+Bmy9lTqdmqLtxY97udMGY=; b=fLJsxmktO2by8b+x6reXMXw+zB4cz53Nra/sG4MDAYvki4lYCA3skHJtdW10BUwuMT d6Ap4ZR+tira2lVrfek+l7WjoXrf75puzh3y9bGkqOqsJsfgzzv40s04rr8yYUFFUP+6 ClN4AP+R2HDgyj9n0VFrjnOp5jzuTfRPj5+pE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=wmIfoMwwZUaie0TUAy2CHW0ymrpjxHsOG5EimyUSIsyaLv3kp54kgI80ZWsP04bu1U PyGdHXI7tn0AjLGqQlSqkqh6gJfYgZ00yUgGs3CHacHBGwNYOslGrgsIr0qweCZcC1ML Z5V9h4ShRG7/JLU5ybnGzQHstdVE7/SzVkbxs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 23:24:49 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XHaSwBcaxPvgqNpBn65KX9QsWRM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51dd3b110135a04a4fd9f20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5955 Lines: 133 --bcaec51dd3b110135a04a4fd9f20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The thing you mention is exactly the reason I have 2 edps. Some of the techniques Per described are typical EDP-ish things for changing the loop. and using multiple Loops is very sensible and cool for achiveing the opposite of what you require. But yes you need 2 EDPs to do everything... Dont waste effort using them as a stereo pair, it dosnt achieve anything except... er stereo, and with 2 you can pan them each a little bit and create stereo in your sound picture, instead of simply keeping stereo from your source. With 2 EDP=B4s, brother synched together, you can: Start with a short loop in EDP 1. EDP 2 auto synchs to it, in readiness to your first loop on that... Overdub or whatever on EDP 1 Swap to EDP 2, and make first recording.. overdub here and whatever. Back to EDP1, SoundCopy Loop1 to loop2 (audience doesnt notice this step) and mangle/replace/overdub/delete bits of that loop... til your original loop is gone comletele... and go with that for a while... EVEN... Got o EDP 2 and work ther for a bit, Back to EDP 1 and switch back to loop 1.. =E0 voila You are back where you started... But what Per hinted at really was, the EDP is a wonderful beast, but its better to work with what it does best, rather than trying to figure out a way to get it to do something, what its best at is radically changing the loop, and sneakily saving versions of your work as you go... a bit like how you save documents at work, maning them Doc001 Doc002 that you can go back to when you fuck up, But get 2... Your wife will not see you for a while, then she will get lots of sex, as you will suddenly be very happy... Mark On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:49 PM, marcus kirby wrote= : > I currently have one edp, but I'm getting another. > > I generally start out with two to four guitar loops which turn into one > polyrhythm, then beatbox and add spacey vocals. > > I want to remove the first two loops though, since things get busy rather > quickly. Generally, I think I could remove them after the eighth bar or s= o. > > How do you guys remove the original loops and add new ones without > cluttering things up? > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec51dd3b110135a04a4fd9f20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The thing you mention is exactly the reason I have 2 edps. Some of the tech= niques Per described are typical EDP-ish things for changing the loop. and = using multiple Loops is very sensible and cool for achiveing the opposite o= f what you require. But yes you need 2 EDPs to do everything...

Dont waste effort using them as a stereo pair, it dosnt achieve anythin= g except... er stereo, and with 2 you can pan them each a little bit and cr= eate stereo in your sound picture, instead of simply keeping stereo from yo= ur source.
=A0With 2 EDP=B4s, brother synched together, you can:

Start with a = short loop in EDP 1. EDP 2 auto synchs to it, in readiness to your first lo= op on that...
Overdub or whatever on EDP 1
Swap to EDP 2, and make fi= rst recording.. overdub here and whatever.
Back to EDP1, SoundCopy Loop1 to loop2 (audience doesnt notice this step) a= nd mangle/replace/overdub/delete bits of that loop... til your original loo= p is gone comletele... and go with that for a while... EVEN...
Got o EDP= 2 and work ther for a bit,
Back to EDP 1 and switch back to loop 1.. =E0 voila You are back where you = started...

But what Per hinted at really was, the EDP is a wonderful= beast, but its better to work with what it does best, rather than trying t= o figure out a way to get it to do something, what its best at is radically= changing the loop, and sneakily saving versions of your work as you go... = a bit like how you save documents at work, maning them Doc001 Doc002 that y= ou can go back to when you fuck up,

But get 2... Your wife will not see you for a while, then she will get = lots of sex, as you will suddenly be very happy...

Mark


<= br>
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:49 PM, marcus kirby= <marcusloops= @gmail.com> wrote:

I currently have one edp, but I'm ge= tting another.

I generally start out with two to four guitar loops which turn into one = polyrhythm, then beatbox and add spacey vocals.

I want to remove the first two loops though, since things get busy rathe= r quickly. Generally, I think I could remove them after the eighth bar or s= o.

How do you guys remove the original loops and add new ones without clutt= ering things up?




--
Mark Fra= ncombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
When I used an EDP I usually set it to "More Loops =3D 5".


5? funny number..

I have one1 starting prese= t with 2 loops and one with 4... more than enough for me...

5 seems= so specific... remember how you used 5?

=A0
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
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--bcaec51dd3b189e54704a4fda870-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 21:42:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C44D183473; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mKZi0pftG7RIKYEP8HguF11bVeeu8jwpME3Z8Q9/iyU=; b=drYbfPwJm7Ixjj8X1VNmPZ3X5PrJEd7r3DdzZL7Jgnwb9af1sTXFEDCzd0Ow4bE962 cwbDIjWR9d5s5wL9gq6DJNU9UUPjVjkX5l6nG9hoGw4X8lF/skMxP7ai65JXZvXzQkln QghNa4gDUppnN/Mx4Knng7JFxFInR9HKuPbu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MioA1i3nkKk1tgbxMXPtl9noFblNY9zuW76n3UZCv+yykjrLvjDKo770cotU2qNUN/ RC+LupbeCyF8EG3Un+35M9/uGlYjS4QlqFSMyrhbpOaHPTkunInMSLILv8KFlp9YftAN tnrgzhptCPhjntY7F8PmtF8x7Ke02+DnQ+pII= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 23:42:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1222 Lines: 28 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe wrote: > But what Per hinted at really was, the EDP is a wonderful beast, but its > better to work with what it does best, rather than trying to figure out a > way to get it to do something, what its best at is radically changing the > loop, It's funny to remember that Matthias actually designed the EDP for exactly the opposite: make slow and smooth transitions of a loop's content into new content. His style as a live looping artist focuses on morphing a loop over time in an organic flow - typically working with Feedback to do this. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: > 5? funny number.. I just kept it set to the highest number of loops I would ever need for certain songs - and that happened to be five. Here's the song that requires making five loops: http://vimeo.com/2818198 Normally I prefer working with as few loops as possible, sometimes speed shifting a loop to get a new time measure and tonal transposition (for "chord vamps"). But that's since I migrated to Mobius. BTW, the video was done with Mobius, but everything except the speed shifting works just as well on an EDP. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 21:50:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30AA4183473; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DEBFA04.40901@theambientping.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 17:49:56 -0400 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 06.07.11 > The PiNG presents JAKOB THIESEN + DEB SINHA and BEN GROSSMAN: field + SOUNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6253 Lines: 139 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 06.07.11 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents PETiTION OF RiGHT featuring JAKOB THIESEN + DEB SINHA and BEN GROSSMAN: field + SOUNS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. June 7th . Doors open at 8:30 . 1st set at 8:45 . $6 8:45 . JAKOB THIESEN . This Toronto based musician and sound designer has been exploring electronic and acoustic sound for over 10 years. Jakob's love for film is apparent in all his works, his numerous independent music releases and his film and television sound design for filmmakers have all focused on the malleability of sound and the emotional and cerebral impacts that entail. Although it's been a number of years since Jakob last performed at the PiNG, he was a regular in the early PiNG years performing as Self Service and as part of the fabled AMBiENT PiNG ORCHESTRA. In more recent times, Jakob provided the PiNG with a tape of his visuals which we regularly played when the Chaos guys took the night off. For his upcoming set at the PiNG, he'll be performing his recent ambient audio and visual explorations. 9:45 . DEB SINHA and BEN GROSSMAN: field . Ben and Deb have wide backgrounds as performers, composers, improvisers, sound designers and, in Deb's case, video artists. For years, they have been discussing their history in traditional and 'world' music in light of their interests in new music, sound art, improvisation and experimental sound and video. Having performed together in an occasional improvised duo, they decided to somewhat formalize their work together, join forces and defeat the legions of evil, and create a new context for performance: field field is an environment for improvised sound and video performance. Ben's hurdy gurdy is a contemporary, electro-acoustic instrument with roots in the European middle ages. Through extended techniques, live-looping and processing, Ben seeks to use it as a physical interface into improvised sound creation, spontaneous composition and the exploration of acoustics, form and extended aesthetics. For field, Deb is using video and visual sources outside of the culturally driven semiotics of his previous work - to explore code and programming, focusing on form and process. For tonight's performance, Deb will also be contributing digitally generated audio based on analogous processes. 10:45 . SOUNS . Michael Red, aka Souns, is a Vancouver based music producer, performer, DJ and event organizer. Michael is the founding member of Lighta! Sound, acting captain of the Low Indigo ship, regular collaborator with Tanya Tagaq and music curator for New Forms Festival. As a live performer, Michael combines his “sound art” side with his summed DJ experience - blending layered atmospheres, subtle details, and improvised manipulations with a dance floor sensibility. Upfront beats can quickly scatter to polyrhythmic tangents and back again. Nearly untraceable pulses can eventually merge to create fully living and breathing landscapes. Playing more with the tension side of tension-and-release is common theme, along with an ever present dub-wise approach to FX, bass, and overall treatment. Michael's bass music sets can vary greatly in tempo and feel - traversing the many modes of dubstep, future and roots dub, heaters, select rap and modern r'n'b cuts, dancehall fusions, post-dubstep and genre-less music in between. Whatever the flavours being played, one almost in-escapable common thread is dub soundsystem mentality. Unplanned experiments and risks, echo, delay and space.. deep space.. deep water. it can get as emotional as it can get hype. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON . TUESDAY JULY 12th 2011 . MYSTERY MOON OF MARS featuring SPACENOIZ + AMOEBA STARFISH . TUESDAY AUGUST 16th 2011 . XII DECADE.2 THE AMBiENT PiNG's 12TH ANNiVERSARY featuring TRANSMORPHOUS SOUND ENSEMBLE + GEEK WEEKEND + quasiMODAL @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a new free download from the ping things net label: "Smoke in a High Room" by Lorde Awesome, Cymbl, and James Thomson ping things is pleased to release "Smoke in a High Room", a collaboration between Lorde Awesome, Cymbl, and James Thomson. Featuring six tracks of organic pre-apocalypse mutant jazz, "Smoke in a High Room" is a strong collection of improvisational work from four very tight musicians. "Smoke in a High Room" is available for free download as a 133Mb Zip file containing the full release in 320kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Lorde Awesome, Cymbl, and James Thomson 2011 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. http://pingthings.blogspot.com/2011/06/download-smoke-in-high-room.html Check out the ping things blog for more free download releases from the ping things net label. http://pingthings.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG. http://www.facebook.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 21:56:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10E7C183486; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 17:56:00 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.178.169 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33790-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 174 Lines: 7 <> sez PERBOY don't let him dazzle you with the electronic talk!.....it's the=20 zappatos!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 22:11:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 473B6183489; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 22:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=beZ3GK1AMBjScX8cxjYkAd32uXeGUhM+LKKPon2l5Bg=; b=YuaQe+oiiGj00i+JcOwND88U6kr6ULFHaQw06/q+LVLEHTfvEgtK6d2Ld7/1C99vLD qh7y/UWHNmRQiEZ1P/iwZb4QQAY7JqFLtmEEHEAEe1LT/BT9yjLKKhJ5USU5cy4rJD84 30HV2VQjgcEJSuRsPo2w/FyQ6kCP8yBDEakE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sS0ALb9S2qvsdNHPe+4YiFxbYm+RhhPT1yuBpVbb60DOsttC5wsEzJrgRVQ9/1SSUb sE9Sz8UveP3fV6WlEw5t7N8Fr4fMbnA0Ru2aDsQO4dSFdzcO+Zgh9/8fsrFeq2YZAGt8 zaQykgSHvqyazqI8QvztaYJZsQ3fyMse3Ovoc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:41:27 +0930 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP repair in Australia From: "r.domain" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517478582b18f9604a4fe44cd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 22:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1512 Lines: 36 --001517478582b18f9604a4fe44cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for the replies. I have tried reseating previously to no avail. I'll try that again as I didn't check any internal connections. I'm pretty sure I've tried running without the standard controller but I'll check that to be sure also. I used to think it was heat related as it used to take a while before it freaked out but it was a lot shorter last time I tried. If heat though, seems odd others don't have the same issue as mine isn't even racked. I'll report back once I've tried these few things. Thanks, Ritchie -- aritchie.com --001517478582b18f9604a4fe44cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the replies. =A0I have tried reseating previously to no avail. = =A0I'll try that again as I didn't check any internal connections. = =A0I'm pretty sure I've tried running without the standard controll= er but I'll check that to be sure also. =A0
I used to think it was heat related as it used to take a while before it fr= eaked out but it was a lot shorter last time I tried. =A0If heat though, se= ems odd others don't have the same issue as mine isn't even racked.= =A0I'll report back once I've tried these few things.

Thanks,

Ritchie

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--001517478582b18f9604a4fe44cd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 23:02:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3544C183473; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 23:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2FFrjE6a4rBcxcVDiaz8sD8ShaIT9Gezyomn0p6nPmo=; b=QiICRuHafrYpAub6jSNUrBcecKAmM687lnXiSa962WaCou44iVTjTB+RNSryIW3bXh c5tuL+vkIRlMEM3Y4FiaE5qU8YrygZILwlOCp076emz5JaP99WjlVai9vzcq/AMCqICm txSpM5LWzAUnlG+xhMfP4a3TiTJ+d6B3gvJiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QYH0EGYvqLFeSK16TlHjbpIJIC+w4VZ/Ns8+3fZdHqNZr5WZ0bhWJ3MykSO2gNmGgJ Rg1QT9i/ETG4IMU7Q4S95U5Zvjj+quJjYNuGmCvp2G/bUTE9Ti4P/WvGvmRRG7CSo0tj lhZ4wOy5mT+iHzvc8mUbkeCXdlh6DMEre9oAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:02:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c74c45c28704a4fefc71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 23:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3275 Lines: 82 --000e0cd5c74c45c28704a4fefc71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've never messed with the loop copy function, but it seems close to what I'm talking about. Mark's suggestion sounds like the easier method, and allows for me two move between four grooves with ease. For example, this is how one of my songs starts. Loop 1 = Single hit Loop 2 = string sound Loop 3 = bass line Loop 4 = funky guitar muting Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound Loop 6 = vocal line I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about doing this with one or two edps? I really should read the manual to understand the fundamentals. I usually just loop over line one and build it into a crescendo, but then have nowhere to go. Also, I was wanting to use edp1 for guitar, and edp2 for bass and drum sounds. I intend to create a stereo image with the loops and effects that I have. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, michael klobuchar wrote: > > <> > sez PERBOY > > > don't let him dazzle you with the electronic talk!.....it's the > zappatos!!!!! > > --000e0cd5c74c45c28704a4fefc71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've never messed with the loop copy function, but it seems close to wh= at I'm talking about.

Mark's suggestion sounds l= ike the easier method, and allows for me two move between four grooves with= ease.

For example, this is how one of my songs starts.
<= div>Loop 1 =3D Single hit
Loop 2 =3D string sound
Loop = 3 =3D bass line
Loop 4 =3D funky guitar muting
Loop 5 = =3D hi hat / snare sound
Loop 6 =3D vocal line

I want to be able to re= move loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At that point, I'd lik= e to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want to swap the hi= -hats for a drum machine. How could I go about doing this with one or two e= dps?

I really should read the manual to understand the funda= mentals. I usually just loop over line one and build it into a crescendo, b= ut then have nowhere to go.

Also, I was wanting to= use edp1 for guitar, and edp2 for bass and drum sounds. I intend to create= a stereo image with the loops and effects that I have.


On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4= :56 PM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

<<Here's the song thatrequires making five loops:http://vimeo.com/2818198>>= sez PERBOY


don't let him dazzle you with the electronic talk!.....it's the zap= patos!!!!!


--000e0cd5c74c45c28704a4fefc71-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 5 23:05:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39C20183465; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 23:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WINQQM7F4jDldzidjpS/YRSvGHvlzT03cWoagNip3o4=; b=ANKDccTDMPRYdgUB/uvspCukKFpFi6s8sUmI4zzWWH0f7QK/JHBSBZhU2jRv+B8es5 dKRz7DzyrDAfTPGZDeuNBTZ0ExGlXR0dwLnzVFBx4eqBEo+ggKNULcuItpoSaHgYXTxH fGN8tNWAxVD8UA36so5T1LdKRfOGDL0wUjHRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Rbt4BvcGYtRdKBgAQ0JvYc69IH0Dejb6Tw4esZqSV82ccaq7usdGgg+K/FccyRXhLk nFH3+fFoS6ygy1tWSktLUYFeSVrFCMtampHDSmJcv7eqYdvHye4Si8PFKqMcFEBgUnuW xnkh0rqPfjoXy5EEOhE3fCMadclM8G9z3IY5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:05:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd75fa2533ad004a4ff04b2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 23:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4086 Lines: 103 --000e0cd75fa2533ad004a4ff04b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per, if I were to use your method of next loops/copy loops, how could I efficiently shift through the loops? I have a behringer fcb. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:02 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I've never messed with the loop copy function, but it seems close to what > I'm talking about. > > Mark's suggestion sounds like the easier method, and allows for me two move > between four grooves with ease. > > For example, this is how one of my songs starts. > Loop 1 = Single hit > Loop 2 = string sound > Loop 3 = bass line > Loop 4 = funky guitar muting > Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound > Loop 6 = vocal line > > I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At > that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want > to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about doing this with > one or two edps? > > I really should read the manual to understand the fundamentals. I usually > just loop over line one and build it into a crescendo, but then have nowhere > to go. > > Also, I was wanting to use edp1 for guitar, and edp2 for bass and drum > sounds. I intend to create a stereo image with the loops and effects that I > have. > > > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, michael klobuchar wrote: > >> >> <> >> sez PERBOY >> >> >> don't let him dazzle you with the electronic talk!.....it's the >> zappatos!!!!! >> >> > --000e0cd75fa2533ad004a4ff04b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per, if I were to use your method of next loops/copy loops, how could I eff= iciently shift through the loops?

I have a behringer fcb= .

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:02 PM, marcus = kirby <marcus= loops@gmail.com> wrote:
I've never messed with the loop copy fu= nction, but it seems close to what I'm talking about.

Mark's suggestion sounds like the easier method, and allows for me two = move between four grooves with ease.

For example, this is how one of my songs starts.
<= div>Loop 1 =3D Single hit
Loop 2 =3D string sound
Loop = 3 =3D bass line
Loop 4 =3D funky guitar muting
Loop 5 = =3D hi hat / snare sound
Loop 6 =3D vocal line

I want to be able to re= move loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At that point, I'd lik= e to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want to swap the hi= -hats for a drum machine. How could I go about doing this with one or two e= dps?

I really should read the manual to understand the funda= mentals. I usually just loop over line one and build it into a crescendo, b= ut then have nowhere to go.

Also, I was wanting to= use edp1 for guitar, and edp2 for bass and drum sounds. I intend to create= a stereo image with the loops and effects that I have.



On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4= :56 PM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

<<Here's the song thatrequires making five loops:http://vimeo.com/2818198>>= sez PERBOY


don't let him dazzle you with the electronic talk!.....it's the zap= patos!!!!!



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--0016e6d99d6b1f6f9c04a50053cb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 04:16:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E4C183466; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 04:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9Pij7gt6F2Fyi90kw5G9lDPHJJn3FlsTT9g38Xx9O80=; b=LyggA3f1gCa4vDo2cj2+GlLpDOxqadSafXMPiSsRy504Hf8Zc5/WhW0vIziHLc9bGo 4be8AQIIvJqphoHgVtZDZm2PEJxcqnZQy2ELhqtG0Yu/0i26DyvodYOqmd0RmK/ldsGu 9E75FmYoFYfnj+EVUcEbyr0wjyWa6z7DXHDS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RAdSzQws+ATsKJisw7cYJQNsuzVzq+Y4LdYWBMhIMeQvXrAG2yE7wtzY2tPGEHqU3w 8nhju3sn8P0VcClkstmA8l0kbQyxruBr0m+rxE1y3DayWNzrSepHICXbwyPehGfvFVt+ /AhHoiRpjBtxm/PLTuxSEJ8VEeERV5vnVoffo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 23:16:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c74c82f09804a5035ccf Resent-Message-ID: <06umt.A.uY.DSF7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 04:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2080 Lines: 47 --000e0cd5c74c82f09804a5035ccf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized its potential until Per suggested using it. How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? Setting up the number of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know how to do the following: For example, this is how one of my songs starts. Loop 1 = Single hit Loop 2 = string sound Loop 3 = bass line Loop 4 = funky guitar muting Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound Loop 6 = vocal line I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about switching/moving through the loops and copying as such? --000e0cd5c74c82f09804a5035ccf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized its pot= ential until Per suggested using it.

How do I go about s= etting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? Setting up the number of = loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know how to do the following:<= /div>

For example, this is how one of my songs starts.
Loop 1 =3D Single hit
Loop 2 =3D string sound
Loop 3 = =3D bass line
Loop 4 =3D funky guitar muting
Loop 5 =3D= hi hat / snare sound
Loop 6 =3D vocal line

<= div>I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going.= At that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, = I'd want to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about s= witching/moving through the loops and copying as such?


--000e0cd5c74c82f09804a5035ccf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 07:10:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D5A483BE5; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vR3m0MiUFNzgv2sDb7fX0T8lp1DofwnMJGzHfc8Nc60=; b=wcq8qPAlMc9iJ9b1dmNrRTOGBugssVeqACNWKAHQJGhih9zwt7UgDm698We3fclFPQ MkTmKKQvwrpsQ/mztBmI+g6dOYofde8l3hrhrZQFDOpLNQQlj+Y9FkuoU2z3RanxdbhB AvGmwe6lSPDnpFsA62xzPNcm/kRW8ehKPYFjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=pvq5MKefOoMCymTc58LdzjvbuFctl+8x8LgeDH/m+aGzKYG5wiAZ8BK3uGc0q5/A38 w+gxBmAHZNiI4cVXamKoKfU8iOXfPwmwEZVCWIZOQLY+1Qx/hvbwrTswLDniMidzgjkW vz51d0XYJMEEfVmr+oRqBD03Q82vPrnQWWmQI= References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:10:28 +0200 Message-ID: <2650009695424762605@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64b9762ee5c9904a505cce1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4614 Lines: 111 --0016e64b9762ee5c9904a505cce1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 6 Jun 2011, at 01:02, marcus kirby wrote: Well with 1edp you can't do it... But with 2 Loop 1 = Single hit Using edp1 Loop 2 = string sound Using edp2 Loop 3 = bass line Stay on EDP 2 Loop 4 = funky guitar muting Back to EDP 1 Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound Edp2 Loop 6 = vocal line Edp1 Now it gets tricky. . I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about doing this with one or two edps? You could copy edp1 to loop2 (saving that state) then remove all sound (replace) as you record silence or your bass synth. You would lose your vocal loop tho, maybe that should be on EDP 2 then ... But wait ... Oh damn... So you see, doing song structure on EDP Must be matched with the edps features and limitations. It's a very powerful looper, and having 2 is more powerful than having 2, but better to use an rc50 for songs Mark --0016e64b9762ee5c9904a505cce1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Sent from my (advertisement re= moved)

On 6 Jun 2011, at 01:02, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
=

Well with 1edp you can't do it... But with 2

Loop 1 =3D Single hit
Using edp1
Loop 2 =3D string sound
Using edp2
Loop 3 =3D bass line
Stay on EDP 2
Loop 4 =3D funky gu= itar muting
Back to EDP 1
Loo= p 5 =3D hi hat / snare sound
Edp2
Loop 6 =3D vocal line
Edp1

=
Now it gets tricky.
.=A0

I want to be able to remove= loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At that point, I'd like to= swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want to swap the hi-hat= s for a drum machine. How could I go about doing this with one or two edps?=

You could copy edp1 to loop2 (saving that state) then remove all sound (rep= lace) as you record silence or your bass synth. You would lose your vocal l= oop tho, maybe that should be on EDP 2 then ... But wait ... Oh damn...


So you see, doing song structure on EDP = Must be matched with the edps features and limitations. It's a very pow= erful looper, and having 2 is more powerful than having 2, but better to us= e an rc50 for songs

Mark

 --0016e64b9762ee5c9904a505cce1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 07:18:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0248183465; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=/lHbRKcBZ62NCMiGk7D00jaVyYUh9gpLesqKGEggarE=; b=LRpkgyeUaxZ/ThXucwTl7gxhhal5CKQi8E1kSeCKorSDYBDwvjkvnP/H/jkogpWLBQ 8Gaq6kLgR5AMV9U6sKCYhqGumDhM1Wuh6u0X0+VZbWKFOaIBCQm0woG/IsSq3bCMJPvN AtCJmgfnFjL7p2JsNx3EEl34G5wtmPQRD9JiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=W4jy7lnoUOHvcAoOLMOB4Im1U0CDz3Q8Z7Km8LsgsEYFrlNH7Z3oLciDFolRmmhfob NAQb5VobJEsC4kOScZn7mIowAfGJVhFffe+4ghMlHR/Db+xObYf1nBw5efLqoYhnI1yC SeW2sjUsI+xqQeev5LZ+nGLuqxM8N60DS34D0= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:18:11 +0200 Message-ID: <-4153021220728673549@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00235446ff4c88a88d04a505e899 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3583 Lines: 73 --00235446ff4c88a88d04a505e899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Your posts illustrates your misunderstanding of next loop, you can either make a new empty loop, or a copy of your current loop, or a silent loop at the same length as your current loop. All can be affected by the switch loop parameter, that can set when it will switch to the next loop. So stepping on Next loop, in order to go from loop 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks of nextloop during the quantise period before the switch will happen. I think you maybe able to set switches to jump you to particular loops too. Best thing is ti try it out... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:16, marcus kirby wrote: I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized its potential until Per suggested using it. How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? Setting up the number of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know how to do the following: For example, this is how one of my songs starts. Loop 1 = Single hit Loop 2 = string sound Loop 3 = bass line Loop 4 = funky guitar muting Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound Loop 6 = vocal line I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about switching/moving through the loops and copying as such? --00235446ff4c88a88d04a505e899 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Your posts illustrates your misunderst= anding of next loop, you can either make a new empty loop, or a copy of you= r current loop, or a silent loop at the same length as your current loop. A= ll can be affected by the switch loop parameter, that can set when it will = switch to the next loop. So stepping on Next loop, in order to go from loop= 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks of nextloop during the quantise period befo= re the switch will happen. I think you maybe able to set switches to jump y= ou to particular loops too. Best thing is ti try it out...

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 6 Jun 2011, at 06= :16, marcus kirby <marcusloops@= gmail.com> wrote:

I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized it= s potential until Per suggested using it.

How do I go ab= out setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? Setting up the numbe= r of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know how to do the follow= ing:

For e= xample, this is how one of my songs starts.
Loop 1 =3D Single hit
Loop 2 =3D string sound
Loop 3 = =3D bass line
Loop 4 =3D funky guitar muting
Loop 5 =3D= hi hat / snare sound
Loop 6 =3D vocal line

<= div>I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going.= At that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, = I'd want to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about s= witching/moving through the loops and copying as such?


--00235446ff4c88a88d04a505e899-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 07:51:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B758D183473; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZJ6/hnE3ypO8WbKE7GgEQVd1O73DK2wYHfQwctx0BFw=; b=GTi07QfhA0cL7ypCQTUe8ZvjBMPbhp1RtKlInCkepa1kcKdDqSI9E6qHywa10kjL8w gJ1czcqRW6IjeclEYl+HnO002QqYZZZYTQRuDTjM+3hWiIB19Qi/10A7g4o22QtO7ZIh /DlisMPTntg7ceTQdEXxP+kYpRUyukcgRMcss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sJucU66oRj1JbtMcXnGBR2ALlS5m9ZB01fSgFn3hqjHohIReHdLUKqdKeGMzd2ETC+ EfisRBPT4Q/rgsRU3+GdzlR95fLKN7BmKLYV3pE3+4tWZrabx3c7AfibPIi2crlLez20 0khmaac7TjGtt+7+QoWr+GjowpbrIvoqQPpIk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2650009695424762605@unknownmsgid> References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <2650009695424762605@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 02:51:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd40184406b3b04a5065e5d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4215 Lines: 118 --000e0cd40184406b3b04a5065e5d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The RC50 doesn't have good midi sync or sound quality though. BLAH, this is impossible. I don't want to use software. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:10 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 6 Jun 2011, at 01:02, marcus kirby wrote: > > Well with 1edp you can't do it... But with 2 > > > Loop 1 = Single hit > > Using edp1 > > Loop 2 = string sound > > Using edp2 > > Loop 3 = bass line > > Stay on EDP 2 > > Loop 4 = funky guitar muting > > Back to EDP 1 > > Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound > > Edp2 > > Loop 6 = vocal line > Edp1 > > > Now it gets tricky. > . > > I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At > that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want > to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about doing this with > one or two edps? > > > You could copy edp1 to loop2 (saving that state) then remove all sound > (replace) as you record silence or your bass synth. You would lose your > vocal loop tho, maybe that should be on EDP 2 then ... But wait ... Oh > damn... > > > So you see, doing song structure on EDP Must be matched with the edps > features and limitations. It's a very powerful looper, and having 2 is more > powerful than having 2, but better to use an rc50 for songs > > Mark > > > --000e0cd40184406b3b04a5065e5d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The RC50 doesn't have good midi sync or sound quality though.

<= /div>
BLAH, this is impossible. I don't want to use software.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:10 AM, mark francombe= <markfranc= ombe@gmail.com> wrote:


Sent = from my (advertisement removed)

On 6 Jun 2011, at 01:02, marc= us kirby <mar= cusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

Well with 1edp you can't do it... But with 2

Loop 1 =3D= Single hit
Using edp1
Loop 2 =3D string sound
Using edp2
Loop 3 =3D bass line
Stay on EDP 2

L= oop 4 =3D funky guitar muting
Back to EDP 1

Loop 5 =3D hi hat / snare sound
Edp2
Loop 6 =3D vocal line
Edp1

=
Now it gets tricky.
.=A0

I wan= t to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At that = point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd w= ant to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about doing this= with one or two edps?

You could copy edp1 to loop2 (saving that state) then remove all sound (rep= lace) as you record silence or your bass synth. You would lose your vocal l= oop tho, maybe that should be on EDP 2 then ... But wait ... Oh damn...


So you see, doing song structure on EDP = Must be matched with the edps features and limitations. It's a very pow= erful looper, and having 2 is more powerful than having 2, but better to us= e an rc50 for songs

Mark


--000e0cd40184406b3b04a5065e5d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 07:52:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52355183466; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SwLe8ko7tNeIeZHBZPNBJxTQVQ0HNaTbjMWpfV/mFds=; b=HJkl3vYvolTYbygOR8lanFKrASbb8zO93ZI0rpq9Hv2XTOU1C5l0dWe9VaqMAEZBQl u3Ysdihq4z6lVxuoy4M9PP4gcXsGfpPiYyrqHmOkbai9iyWm4cCNMiLUEzX/2amoz4N8 QqLXLzWVRlfuYf9apUmICDeqifuclKKmtPnYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Pt9SeKo5Rit+9IzMcHNfI/jpeE0IxebX4F530WYJxOr0ockeYZh74q/b2SmrT9dNGi P7y/bhr9Lm/kpXeChBK9Tg0AE4kzYg+Ie1q2K21i1SiY9mQ8YFHZQQyisvJmkVOh+5VX MqbzJfOLf511DxcOzWcoDY3HrRuvlxlIpBpFw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-4153021220728673549@unknownmsgid> References: <-4153021220728673549@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 02:52:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517511b4628ba6904a506613e Resent-Message-ID: <8sY8iC.A.znC.lcI7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4159 Lines: 92 --001517511b4628ba6904a506613e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That answers a few things. Thanks! On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:18 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Your posts illustrates your misunderstanding of next loop, you can either > make a new empty loop, or a copy of your current loop, or a silent loop at > the same length as your current loop. All can be affected by the switch loop > parameter, that can set when it will switch to the next loop. So stepping on > Next loop, in order to go from loop 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks of > nextloop during the quantise period before the switch will happen. I think > you maybe able to set switches to jump you to particular loops too. Best > thing is ti try it out... > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:16, marcus kirby wrote: > > I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized its > potential until Per suggested using it. > > How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? > Setting up the number of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know how > to do the following: > > For example, this is how one of my songs starts. > Loop 1 = Single hit > Loop 2 = string sound > Loop 3 = bass line > Loop 4 = funky guitar muting > Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound > Loop 6 = vocal line > > I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At > that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want > to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about > switching/moving through the loops and copying as such? > > > --001517511b4628ba6904a506613e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That answers a few things. Thanks!=A0

On = Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:18 AM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> = wrote:
Your posts il= lustrates your misunderstanding of next loop, you can either make a new emp= ty loop, or a copy of your current loop, or a silent loop at the same lengt= h as your current loop. All can be affected by the switch loop parameter, t= hat can set when it will switch to the next loop. So stepping on Next loop,= in order to go from loop 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks of nextloop during= the quantise period before the switch will happen. I think you maybe able = to set switches to jump you to particular loops too. Best thing is ti try i= t out...

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:16, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote= :

I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized it= s potential until Per suggested using it.

How do I go ab= out setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? Setting up the numbe= r of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know how to do the follow= ing:

For example, this is how one of my song= s starts.
Loop 1 =3D Single hit
Loop 2 =3D string sound
Loop 3 = =3D bass line
Loop 4 =3D funky guitar muting
Loop 5 =3D= hi hat / snare sound
Loop 6 =3D vocal line

<= div>I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going.= At that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, = I'd want to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about s= witching/moving through the loops and copying as such?



--001517511b4628ba6904a506613e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 08:41:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11E3D83BE5; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=I60nz/ube1sGBBeVwpQYD4i2MgBzHYgRjlN9Z+erYOk=; b=Ql9Y9cGKkU9ALWgIJO+mDx5xvDB8TTPP77d/P73s2t/7n1unO+2eUeNGoA7JgSnbDn hUNiIgo71LIvbjsCXODoObdaGRz7luy7z6inYdJeJrYqGz4Y/iHGCrU8O6kTIl60ejBC IhvvAsFf+dH1hatfrWFg9/YKqQdm2+6XRNnNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=n286WD3JC2E+o1pZzBd4jNA7d5hO8jILvZ9GMRaf0GVuVCeL6If/VUolOcyLQyZMnJ K5vHF9nYZb+3BS7oB5jGyJXVXohlHs7LCpwHiflOUePP3cuvKqBSA4nRTv11PUUqZW4v dXExrQBSxxpfGyIpQeTfyTKx7djyPPurii04E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:41:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions(boomerang III?) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <7hZEWC.A.kPD.DLJ7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2045 Lines: 51 heya gang talking about "next loop" ive been watching some of the new rang videos,which mostly show going into an empty loop when switching between them for creating musical A/B parts but is it possible to simply copy and overdub on the fly like you can with the EDP? havent seen that feature shown if there is one on a vid yet. thanx! Luis On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:52 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > That answers a few things. Thanks! > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:18 AM, mark francombe > wrote: >> >> Your posts illustrates your misunderstanding of next loop, you can either >> make a new empty loop, or a copy of your current loop, or a silent loop at >> the same length as your current loop. All can be affected by the switch loop >> parameter, that can set when it will switch to the next loop. So stepping on >> Next loop, in order to go from loop 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks of >> nextloop during the quantise period before the switch will happen. I think >> you maybe able to set switches to jump you to particular loops too. Best >> thing is ti try it out... >> >> Sent from my (advertisement removed) >> On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:16, marcus kirby wrote: >> >> I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized its >> potential until Per suggested using it. >> How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? >> Setting up the number of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know how >> to do the following: >> For example, this is how one of my songs starts. >> Loop 1 = Single hit >> Loop 2 = string sound >> Loop 3 = bass line >> Loop 4 = funky guitar muting >> Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound >> Loop 6 = vocal line >> I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At >> that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want >> to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about >> switching/moving through the loops and copying as such? >> > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 10:08:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13E4D183486; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 627014498/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.198/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.198 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlACAPil7E1YbR7G/2dsb2JhbAAMR5gbmAfCCYYhBJUziwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,325,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="627014498" Message-ID: <4DECA70E.9090408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:08:14 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3mqco.A.HaE.NcK7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2469 Lines: 68 marcus kirby wrote: > Per, if I were to use your method of next loops/copy loops, how could I > efficiently shift through the loops? > I have a behringer fcb. There's a number of ways. Mine is to set SwitchQuant=CnF. plus points...all the control you need from the minimum of switches, you can choose whether to record the next loop, start playback, or to copy onto it without any restriction. Timing is that of the performer(see other SwitchQuant options). minus points...you have to hit the Next button to get the EDP to wait for another button press to tell it what to do. To access more than 2 loops you have to 'scroll' through to the loop you want with repeated presses of Next. I almost always have MoreLoops=2 and can get some quite complex arrangements with that, it's a restriction of course, but seems to open up a lot of possibilities too from ease of use. You can also call up loops directly with a midi Note, dunnow if you'll need that but I think it's in the manual under "Looptrig#". > Also, I was wanting to use edp1 for guitar, and edp2 for bass and > drum sounds. On a philosophical note it's my observation that making decisions about "how to achieve to the desired result" too soon can often be a block to getting to that result. All looping devices restrict what you can do by way of arrangement, ...but the trick is to find "good" arrangements that fit the looping device. Per Boysen wrote: > A fourth way is to use Substitute in combination with a setting that > lets you mix how much of the old audio layers will be kept under the > new slices you cut into the loop. This only works in the alternative > performance modes. I found Replace Mode to work best for me, but I > know that for example Andy Butler (that knows more about the EDP than > I do) prefers Expert Mode. Truth is I haven't touched those alternate Modes since going over to midi control of the EDP. ...and Expert Mode is a mystery, no-body knows who specified it, ...and nobody claims to be the relevant Expert ;-) ( discussing with Matt, we think it's some kind of an emulation of the Boomerang...we can tell you what it does...but not why) I think it was Per who worked out you could access a few extra features by putting a dummy jack plug into the expression socket. I'm in Loop Mode just using the standard Replace and Substitute functions, and also using rapid motion of the feedback pedal when needed. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 10:27:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C602183463; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ut6vd8g3djOU7wmBNvKfN7fdSOc1Stwzj9EV09XTl94=; b=Kv3Pwf5vnRzTD2H9hN3Pux70Tb287ghSeOqz7sXlv/LawDjEiod3Zb8w6UiP3KjDvr nGDGlgryAvbBDmWmVREaJMKMbW1Bp7w1dI96tJ/PHbxbMl1Ru+hsiAVMXk5wMAJeafNF wKLpLh4ULT7K2zVRGo3EY6Q2uqw4chm6le1n8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ERx8RVHM1uKTYmQ+oTOZbZ2nz8YsxQoMCy5ioLhtaX8g3arMwFF7CtjVXuVTJ2S+6q d/fe9SWdn6d9gFqvvcKSGSyB74CSx1jneBgtiUs6daftTnKLgqYfigghWIRCxlMZpbSe W6xxWDsK3Ej8POsPfA5p+IokvlO1p/xcBaAd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:27:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 729 Lines: 18 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:05 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > Per, if I were to use your method of next loops/copy loops, how could I > efficiently shift through the loops? NextLoop + Multiply To leave loop 1 and go to loop 2 while also copying the audio from loop 1 into loop 2 you simply press NextLoop and then during the Lame Duck Period (before the switch happens, I mostly have it set to cycle in an EDP, but some folks like it better set to Loop) you also press Multiply. Besides navigating with the Next and Previous Loop commands I also have direct call buttons for all loops. If you want to go (form anywhere) to loop 4 you simply kick the pedal switch you have assigned to "direct call loop 4" Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 10:42:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EDD8183463; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8Z4H3/rswqVwHyEuUhSkf4mb/venSVMJRcu3S86T3r8=; b=Q3JiBHzX+VGbTTcwMSKGDAJHWJ59IBjoA9UuH8ZV029lP4PXSQ6dhh934yjZeNUuSF +50Fl8l8xOpRFH+gAV6JRhEkUc+Ji7BBaWzPVncJM41Lk6jKg5SIkfbghJdK2zS+zzN5 ge0Mt/AEDeTjm61EUEHNHJ6l7+FdL8AIDNvGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=d/nnSX4eGK2souakdY8rnoeGiVz8+Wn8Al1rbmy2BbFzy/8K2KDAMHJtKqmYdGj9Wq 82eb8SwSVKqdX0RzPnkeR4r4cpALsPaZpDu73I4RTdPexygT1193aMpLMdgouK5kjG83 4/S1QjkC5hJg+aiE1Vm9HVdw15vqs++WFD2gU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:42:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1734 Lines: 43 Marcus, It seem as you are talking about parallel loops (as in "playing together simultaneously") but the multiple loops on an EDP are linear! So only one loop at a time can be heard. If you run two EDPs you may have two loops playing at the same time. Better then to put your song chart's loops all layered into the same EDP loop. Then you can take layers off by pressing Undo; last added layer goes first etc (backwards peeling it off). If the layers that you call "loop 1" and "loop 4" are the first two to be overdubbed into the loop, then you can achieve what you want by rapidly stepping back until only those two layers play back. You can then step ahead again with the Redo action to bring in the rest of the layers. (this is a hands-on example of the attitude Andy recommended) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:16 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized its > potential until Per suggested using it. > How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? Setting > up the number of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know how to do the > following: > For example, this is how one of my songs starts. > Loop 1 = Single hit > Loop 2 = string sound > Loop 3 = bass line > Loop 4 = funky guitar muting > Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound > Loop 6 = vocal line > I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At > that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want > to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about > switching/moving through the loops and copying as such? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 11:04:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 634FF183473; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4W8cdVXOi54ru5fkxf3/1RhqmKL4tAzmrW3G4hxTdMQ=; b=GPDhULK1ECc30u3tzlJ5ECBSiQVWN7+SANkVmWnL3gqwQ8zxxFcUJryu+PilxRkw4W dGxTt2twMmYysECJMSUlWnHnQQbz9ezTDukY01vEMjX9m+mZhN/EOGn1/k1n+ojPPaRI Ph1GfnLqWumZVng7oi5pU4uRJdzr9h07ZnkLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=bQt5IbppjGAnoZDgb1RFNEN1XFs049pUps5XiqCqyl3UkAxuA0Qy8H8ceCey+i+mRK HWsFE2TXEKYcEHJQPOMwx3yN2OBXuewzTQhH2hl5ThF2nBE/bLy3aJvT8pIqh8ZQ2/yt iQwpPBG1sSRO3CGApknNEfEN4h58ONka6gP6s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4DECA70E.9090408@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <4DECA70E.9090408@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:04:03 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BsiHlOoVwYTM2q8KiojdjrKpj90 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6143faddd44804a5091080 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2913 Lines: 67 --90e6ba6143faddd44804a5091080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, andy butler wrote: > ...and Expert Mode is a mystery, no-body knows who specified it, > ...and nobody claims to be the relevant Expert ;-) > ( discussing with Matt, we think it's some kind of an emulation > of the Boomerang...we can tell you what it does...but not why > Go on then.. Tell us what it does! Ive never figured it out... just puts the pedal backwards and the feedback knob er.. no thats wrong... er... Actually I'm pretty glad others don't know either! I thought I was stupid! Also: (getting away from the topic) Does anyone actually use Insert? I give it a go every so often, but never have good results... -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6143faddd44804a5091080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
...and Expert Mode is a mystery, no-body knows who specifie= d it,
...and nobody claims to be the relevant Expert ;-)
( discussing with Matt, we think it's some kind of an emulation
=A0of the Boomerang...we can tell you what it does...but not why

Go on then.. Tell us what it does!
Ive never figured i= t out... just puts the pedal backwards and the feedback knob er.. no thats = wrong... er...
Actually I'm pretty glad others don't know either! I thought I was = stupid!

Also: (getting away from the topic)
Does anyone actually = use Insert? I give it a go every so often, but never have good results...
--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--90e6ba6143faddd44804a5091080-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 11:07:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77AF883BE2; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=hjXsDeiKBHbjev9g5emAqzWWQsOINsKaxjoc0RSgbms=; b=ZdZgt63rYYVK9sVTF3u2Ed30Xsar8pExydGtzwWizN7YI/GUe7z6wdLzPjvmA0t1vq +MXKV2mNtpsJxZVUCykK17fWSQKs+XaW4obhu6i8NFFtPUOCs8BsYnKGyHilPW9tFu/F p3TG4sNsLKP7eAfsltfs/EE/E6yBWgChUJOwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ibi0n161+KqZJS+pksV4NMn+j1VoV0oWX4UggIWaIlPtTfjqfDAGGYmMoxsekCRMvX eF04fTd4h2JZAITt76t9ibzLOoFXctvXkgpuSjDpQKH7Ft1ky9dOo067teiDlxCCJipn 4Up3lbPaepYIPO1KhdrvXcC/b/slXgHCWbvog= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:06:43 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: z-3kbOrcYbAcfADSDkxMY1rAoO0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e815e6918bc04a5091ad4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2368 Lines: 60 --90e6ba6e815e6918bc04a5091ad4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > You can > then step ahead again with the Redo action to bring in the rest of the > layers. (this is a hands-on example of the attitude Andy recommended) > I think you are getting muddled here Per, no Redo on EDP, (just Mobius) You MUST "save" you loop to loop 2 before going back to loop 1 for the undo... if you want things to "come back" -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e815e6918bc04a5091ad4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
You can
then step ahead again with the Redo action to bring in the rest of the
layers. (this is a hands-on example of the attitude Andy recommended)
=

I think you are getting muddled here Per, no Redo on= EDP, (just Mobius)
You MUST "save" you loop to loop 2 before = going back to loop 1 for the undo... if you want things to "come back&= quot;



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--90e6ba6e815e6918bc04a5091ad4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 11:33:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A13A6183460; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QaYj7xNcS/WdCbzh96ygg5IDNSQB6sAaMEhav995mZY=; b=i4u4ZodHdiBplYk/j5w96of5gkFZtmIKxXom+LT4ONgq4Hbx5/zoClEbzuuaZUyDVW 4dNOGRdqdnFLEh331HQQL3jg5qbV+qXCLheakLG8Vjmnw2CrRJMr+898COgzJ2sFCTWE cSCn0OIwopw4Vm/Mq3reLz4YsUOSx5jj4DjRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LICB6oRJIMaBAEKjG2l580LHPhjuW3jkS/HlPYvdMmMs5F8KkIhC6GjTpn0kg10SCV 7agBy96sCIyiLZn9/rWiIZmSbcSr9jJ3ZzFe7woJwQF+Lx521zThOmCx8dudRJ+Zfc1r 4Eao5BNeLWqk635BZeoDJebEAv/bABIaNM9a0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:33:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 614 Lines: 16 > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> You can >> then step ahead again with the Redo action to bring in the rest of the >> layers. (this is a hands-on example of the attitude Andy recommended) On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:06 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I think you are getting muddled here Per, no Redo on EDP, (just Mobius) > You MUST "save" you loop to loop 2 before going back to loop 1 for the > undo... if you want things to "come back" Oh, you're right. I forgot there's no Redo on the EDP. My EDP has been away for three years now ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 11:38:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64890183475; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DRa3xcWy5kopklIgm5+zXS8CMACvsOgwYsGzp8hgmIs=; b=OqfTyJAjMPY1qSonk6Eg3Yji3iWd7lD43iU34FVBRSP38TgC0A14Tgw0efF/qu16xI +47hsmQVUOe1Gfr8/XGdpT5O7wXkKXmSkB//ImyGOM91MQWYNSCHsznDh8GUc9g1cpwO CdOn7CExnMdFhqi4YuvkM/i+3TGS0QkWA9BoU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WPLmorWGJhInIUJOm8G9CXkZ0bx+FatOVyvFSFCVWWUcNEjhhEsaYmiYmowbHqWOua ewTSa5QeNtkmZWM3k6UsvB0vYE6F1fyBZI5Yo8ETXIHULDIkKD5icRxqIhuIEn22L2rX UmpAQyHib9y81dvwmgN60v1Kaj/Qc/sw/NyXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <4DECA70E.9090408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:38:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 507 Lines: 16 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Does anyone actually use Insert? No, I never used Insert in concert. But I played around with it to see if I could find it useful, but making a loop longer by inserting a part of audio somewhere in it never worked out musically for me. But I have heard Andre LaFosse use it quite a lot. http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 13:24:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84E2D183463; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 969610.28205.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307366672; bh=VPblbZP9y6xpf+B0YBxjkTW/ABD7n0wVv8/tCrL877k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KsbYt0bte600pMkhUdyEWCz+nOzPS7RE1Wi0AajQP32x/77Q6nkjpT6pbBMPQXflbaMB1zuP+8Vw+eyxaD2UfUK5jwfVOYtQmuW6kbrHw8Z8FicmimNpKm+AH0KT3TbWHvSghjMR63yVcJeTIuUWvuYe1aB6ube3xRIy4pmqdzw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IFo133mHd6VJ5H3SAwevigzMGZ/fe6NQnXGeKF3W+s4JLO6LmUXxB/Q6F33YX1ORIKrySwYfWbbwfCpVTfzFQ5DXUIx5+50QAPTKERVMYa/61+AXcz+igs1LOZfYcvK5Pw48c1ydTMko4s8puu0iSfGxvhrE/OxVBKuA4Y9tNRY=; Message-ID: <473632.86231.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xQ7NByIVM1nEhFRh7Fz_sb79FghU8CuQxU2UJ86zAbKSqgv Pwr6v0AmzRSJzh3Ip0bJNeCwxmWa3MYxonfG2.LpsTnP4Jb2GY09w7sA4ot4 NTSEGN72D8Dae0175sURaDMu0Lo4cI5otvLU9ylAFUtA_iX1nwFByU2QooUr svih7cbWodxwwAPhCnrqxoQ06BHERbfo3JcyJ2B6l3PmCeja5mP5E6jPu0Ae iA9nOtbvV3zCMlpH0koxrBNcAp7JpDaFC9eNm1rKMCd4qC_j3ItHurTz5nhj zzNGXKn6T0Q7k5cP6eUORdyhUX739oc82mssyP8RKEx099Z66ablXtSayZ2l aLupb_CYDR6OSB9oaDcgbtpW5gLTdMBZxN2PDuUjKkDwNgWNHbMT8mqXWCzd GmJIpmXAR.6I6fVdYEYKMTF1qS0G45OevogNztHLyJwg3m3uKaGCaaDoqDP_ 139bRkuTK6384QRkKuQ8U3yu82WBThkeEttEEnse7d0bUpbh9XrvYxlPr7pP CX7gSYEBK6Yk61IEU1n5kh6_f9XJ0z6AuTjbxhR7r_Scbo70_oGJk8_g0j9T _ICymU4rQOiy1KM.e5YUNHhc- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:24:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions(boomerang III?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-909451295-1307366672=:86231" Resent-Message-ID: <9LhYv.A.VvH.TUN7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 7022 Lines: 150 --0-909451295-1307366672=:86231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey: =A0 I haven't either. I really need to define that function as I am having diff= iculty getting my loop tempos matched as well as keeping sound levels at a = similar level. If I remember correctly, the 'loop copy' function has to be = defined to one of the assignable buttons - such as the 'bonus' button. I th= ink by, default, one of them has 'play once' defined to it which is useless= to me.=20 =A0 Regards, Paul =A0 --- On Mon, 6/6/11, Louie Angulo wrote: From: Louie Angulo Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions(boomerang III?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 4:41 AM heya gang talking about "next loop" ive been watching some of the new rang videos,which mostly show going into an empty loop when switching between them for creating musical A/B parts but is it possible to simply copy and overdub on the fly like you can with the EDP? havent seen that feature shown if there is one on a vid yet. thanx! Luis On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:52 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > That answers a few things. Thanks! > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:18 AM, mark francombe > wrote: >> >> Your posts illustrates your misunderstanding of next loop, you can eithe= r >> make a new empty loop, or a copy of your current loop, or a silent loop = at >> the same length as your current loop. All can be affected by the switch = loop >> parameter, that can set when it will switch to the next loop. So steppin= g on >> Next loop, in order to go from loop 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks of >> nextloop during the quantise period before the switch will happen. I thi= nk >> you maybe able to set switches to jump you to particular loops too. Best >> thing is ti try it out... >> >> Sent from my (advertisement removed) >> On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:16, marcus kirby wrote: >> >> I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized its >> potential until Per suggested using it. >> How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? >> Setting up the number of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know h= ow >> to do the following: >> For example, this is how one of my songs starts. >> Loop 1 =3D Single hit >> Loop 2 =3D string sound >> Loop 3 =3D bass line >> Loop 4 =3D funky guitar muting >> Loop 5 =3D hi hat / snare sound >> Loop 6 =3D vocal line >> I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. = At >> that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd w= ant >> to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about >> switching/moving through the loops and copying as such? >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com --0-909451295-1307366672=:86231 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey:
 
I haven't either. I really need to define that function as I am having= difficulty getting my loop tempos matched as well as keeping sound levels = at a similar level. If I remember correctly, the 'loop copy' function has t= o be defined to one of the assignable buttons - such as the 'bonus' button.= I think by, default, one of them has 'play once' defined to it which is us= eless to me.
 
Regards, Paul
 


--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@google= mail.com> wrote:

From: Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.co= m>
Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions(boomerang III?)
To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 4:41 AM
heya gang talking about "next loop" ive been watchin= g some of the new
rang videos,which mostly show going into an empty loop= when switching
between them for creating musical A/B parts
but is it= possible to simply copy and overdub on the fly like you can
with the ED= P? havent seen that feature shown if there is one on a vid
yet.
thanx= !
Luis

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:52 AM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote= :
> That answers a few things. Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Jun 6,= 2011 at 2:18 AM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
= >> Your posts illustrates your misunderstanding of next loop, you can either
>> make a new empty loop, or a copy of your current loop, = or a silent loop at
>> the same length as your current loop. All c= an be affected by the switch loop
>> parameter, that can set when = it will switch to the next loop. So stepping on
>> Next loop, in o= rder to go from loop 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks of
>> nextloop= during the quantise period before the switch will happen. I think
>&= gt; you maybe able to set switches to jump you to particular loops too. Bes= t
>> thing is ti try it out...
>>
>> Sent from m= y (advertisement removed)
>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:16, marcus kirby= <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've read about this function in the = manual, but never realized its
>> potential until Per suggested using it.
>> How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple= loops function?
>> Setting up the number of loops is easy enough,= but I'm wanting to know how
>> to do the following:
>> F= or example, this is how one of my songs starts.
>> Loop 1 =3D Sing= le hit
>> Loop 2 =3D string sound
>> Loop 3 =3D bass line=
>> Loop 4 =3D funky guitar muting
>> Loop 5 =3D hi hat /= snare sound
>> Loop 6 =3D vocal line
>> I want to be abl= e to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. At
>> that= point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd want
= >> to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about
&g= t;> switching/moving through the loops and copying as such?
>><= BR>>
>



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--0-909451295-1307366672=:86231-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 15:09:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1BB3183489; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=koBNvr8AvQbCvjd4nYKxrcPYhPMDgjkeq5W8DZj0qj4=; b=ZlmCrwcUhaRG750EF/pdIacvaP9ceMLEZ1CPBPt4EOTvX0w+vlOy3yolGvRaAyOz5h M6Jd97OeaWxpclEAGfnnjhlmUCvcYX3Jm6vZVxy/mveosrm231VpRux7oxUFUpyp9RT6 5Ae69X828x26GfHLwB8r7KZ6TG74WVBF+BJwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JqizqOJkKiCdj5YH0srT5o8CNgSu3kqdQQvjfUWNY/HCR7lDSpLXr++6Dpf1NKL927 54OiopnV/F8pm6HhWSluCLPtpwIvBmx4d3e12vptgHpf/Vx2uTudqW28mqX1JsRmH2mp wsp3otywkGxFbbOnfrCED54UaG+9i+hvCgOLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <4DECA70E.9090408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:09:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7543c5b438e04a50c7d29 Resent-Message-ID: <2EJh4C.A.2fB.q2O7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4124 Lines: 95 --000e0cd7543c5b438e04a50c7d29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So, it seems that I've somewhat hit a wall here. What I am wanting to do would be better served by products that don't exist. I know, I know, work with limitations. I can't really do that though, as I'm doing multi-instrumental looping and need control over everything. It seems like I have to go the software route. This would include selling my edp and buying a newer macbook pro (have an old blackbook), better quality interface (motu ultralite right now), and some other things. Per, as you pretty happy with your decision to do this? For sound quality purposes, would running the laptop with mobius/sooperlooper be better in the aux of a mixer? I'm beyond frustrated. I want to use hardware loopers/effects, and have spent the last two months looking for a way to not use my laptop. I think I have to give up that dream though. Would the lp1 or a few (maybe four) lp2s serve my needs and be somewhat cost efficient? On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Does anyone actually use Insert? > > > No, I never used Insert in concert. But I played around with it to see > if I could find it useful, but making a loop longer by inserting a > part of audio somewhere in it never worked out musically for me. But I > have heard Andre LaFosse use it quite a lot. > http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP/ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --000e0cd7543c5b438e04a50c7d29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, it seems that I've somewhat hit a wall here. What I am wanting to d= o would be better served by products that don't exist. I know, I know, = work with limitations. I can't really do that though, as I'm doing = multi-instrumental looping and need control over everything.=A0

It seems like I have to go the software route. This would in= clude selling my edp and buying a newer macbook pro (have an old blackbook)= , better quality interface (motu ultralite right now), and some other thing= s.

Per, as you pretty happy with your decision to do this?= For sound quality purposes, would running the laptop with mobius/sooperloo= per be better in the aux of a mixer?=A0

I'm be= yond frustrated. I want to use hardware loopers/effects, and have spent the= last two months looking for a way to not use my laptop. I think I have to = give up that dream though.

Would the lp1 or a few (maybe four) lp2s serve my needs= and be somewhat cost efficient?=A0

On Mo= n, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:= 04 PM, mark francombe <mark@ma= rkfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Does anyone actually use Insert?


No, I never used Insert in concert. But I played around with it to se= e
if I could find it useful, but making a loop longer by inserting a
part of audio somewhere in it never worked out musically for me. But I
have heard Andre LaFosse use it quite a lot.
http://www.= altruistmusic.com/EDP/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--000e0cd7543c5b438e04a50c7d29-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 15:29:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99A4283BE1; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DECF18D.80707@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:26:05 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for June 4, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0IsvZ.A.l4B.MJP7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3395 Lines: 77 http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110604.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #200 June 4, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Forrest Fang's Sans Lost Oracle Unbound (Projekt) Serif VA [Tranquility Storm Front Sequences No. 14 Bass] VA [Chuck Van Zyl] Untitled Sequences No. 14 VA [Lee Saunders] Alone in the Dark Sequences No. 14 Create Fanfare of Dreams We Live By the Machines (Groove) Alpha Wave Movement Contours & Soniq Variants (HRR) Cloudforms Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ralph Zurmuhle Epitaph eQuinox (Hearts of Space) Steven C. Ripples in a Spiritual Piano (none) Parallel Universe Steven C. Believe-Achieve Spiritual Piano (none) Steve Tibbetts All for Nothing Acoustibbetts (Cuneiform) Luup Roots Growth Meadow Rituals (Experimedia) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Genesis Unquiet Slumbers Wind and Wuthering (Atco) for the Sleepers Genesis In That Quiet Earth Wind and Wuthering (Atco) Genesis Afterglow Wind and Wuthering (Atco) Van Der Graaf A Plaguem of Pawn Hearts (Charisma) Generator Lighthouse Keepers Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 15:30:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83349183486; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rz3M0B+tL0D32o8phVr/yYiBqVzL9584aBybXHrE9RY=; b=oKsux/oObdfoPHRQq4U8O/WDSprP9vlrgZTjveVY9whr8KvAUGurNoFY6jXmLkxNWt lLdSGouxtCLIebnGpQ73hhrXP3Mea/wALIdE41/CGisIVeM25hH4yOMp6ZZT6Wnk/wQZ qWlLx7tBQqWnvY0qX1uWkVNlFGGGst8MuTtjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ONd+WxOQoMrQEwqrI3izsopOiLsCJnRlMUvr3i5lMH3+zQ9MrYwWjpFOyetmQ5jSSW Qme/AgXxPg07u6nM0etJMCAnFNPSYY2NmGN4hUuf8Ss0Clq80itB8AQ/QPR7/MkIxXXL NcWOlDXnoYdWWWv5XwwEj8bIhBbnb3HvcJf94= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <4DECA70E.9090408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:30:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1891 Lines: 40 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:09 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > It seems like I have to go the software route. This would include selling my > edp and buying a newer macbook pro (have an old blackbook), better quality > interface (motu ultralite right now), and some other things. > Per, as you pretty happy with your decision to do this? Yes. > For sound quality > purposes, would running the laptop with mobius/sooperlooper be better in the > aux of a mixer? "Better" - what does that mean? If working with a mixer I think it is always better to keep the main signal as clean as possible and put additional processing like looping, reverb and delay into an aux effekt send/return loop. However there are sound precessing that works better as an insert on the main channel and that would be anything that is not additional but rather sound shaping (like distortion, EQ, flanger etc). Myself I stored my mixers away in a closet six years ago and use software mixing and signal routing inside a laptop. It is exactly the same thing; sending a signal somewhere, bring it back through an effect of some sort, ducking another channels relative volume from a third signal path's amplitude etc etc. It is just the old thing; classic mixing and sound processing theory applied in music. > I'm beyond frustrated. I want to use hardware loopers/effects, and have > spent the last two months looking for a way to not use my laptop. I think I > have to give up that dream though. > Would the lp1 or a few (maybe four) lp2s serve my needs and be somewhat cost > efficient? The LP1 can run eight stereo channels in parallel. So you should be able to set up eight loops and fade them in and out as you wish while they all are running. Not like the EDP's concept of linear loops. Whether it would be more cost efficient to buy a bunch of LP2s is up for you to do the maths on ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 17:41:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77E7A18349C; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9tcqh5mtvdA/fSnHAAZczBSnP0h0c6KN6czrOvXnd3A=; b=Dma93DaUkh4gCgDzAo38WA7jaYN2WI6uazcZXyquPTm42MMGk8IuUl1anEwK8N83ll NUpmv32YnY9UVm9MSX/ewQfJlVxd8TC2Wzm5issgNweoIi/R8wh3Xq8WQIVxHmFJkMKX tDtfQYptA/102AfHUEJi6kXLRz9Sa0u5OuPYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=vFMSa9uHug6+x+O7vtFU32tfupEMID2kPi9/KvyUEBBLhzN4WPAwda+zpLbvXcxaUz dOgd3DQsvT5XvUh/YvbFW47o5Lr4ZLeG5FazTPkuH4wuEdU4ZhrcE5OgW7EQRePLUh/F ujptI1X2vx2myJkK8GSN7bx5+8NSWENpufp+g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:41:26 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3Tn1dZbhaSdhBwHgoqLbxwXc6vM Message-ID: Subject: Help fill my rack!!! To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1eff4a05e1e804a50e9efe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3936 Lines: 88 --90e6ba1eff4a05e1e804a50e9efe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Guys... My latest rack build. (adding the new Kaos pads on a rack drawer) means that I had to move things about in the part of the rack that "folds up". Yes its a magic box of tricks, add water and it grows to 3 times its size! http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=1371 Anyway, due to the fact that when folded down the rack items must not clash with the drawer items, there is a gap in the middle, of about 2U. THIS WILL NOT DO! Suggestions please, for... weird tings that make sounds, (with very little depth, and edp with cables in is TOO MUCH, it must be FLAT!!!) in the synth direction but must be hand tweakable and self contained (not synth modules) maybe some noise box stuff, or rythym thing would be great, pref not a plain old drum machine, although I was looking for something to sequnce my EDPS recently (rmember that thread?) Please be creative? it doesnt even have to be electronic, I was even thinking of one of those creations my Peter B where the connections can be made by living worms... Anyway heres the picture of a rack with an annoying gap in it... I have annotated the rack with "Annoying gap" incase you cant spot it.. http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=1371 Mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba1eff4a05e1e804a50e9efe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guys... My latest rack build. (adding the new Kaos pads on a rack drawer) m= eans that I had to move things about in the part of the rack that "fol= ds up".
Yes its a magic box of tricks, add water and it grows to 3 = times its size!

http= ://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D1371

Anyway, due t= o the fact that when folded down the rack items must not clash with the dra= wer items, there is a gap in the middle, of about 2U.

THIS WILL NOT DO!

Suggestions please, for... weird tings that ma= ke sounds, (with very little depth, and edp with cables in is TOO MUCH, it = must be FLAT!!!)=A0 in the synth direction but must be hand tweakable and s= elf contained (not synth modules) maybe some noise box stuff, or rythym thi= ng would be great, pref not a plain old drum machine, although I was lookin= g for something to sequnce my EDPS recently (rmember that thread?)

Please be creative? it doesnt even have to be electronic, I was even th= inking of one of those creations my Peter B where the connections can be ma= de by living worms...

Anyway heres the picture of a rack with an ann= oying gap in it... I have annotated the rack with "Annoying gap" = incase you cant spot it..

http= ://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D1371

Mark

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http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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--bcaec51dd3b1717c3e04a50eb536-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 17:56:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A91118349E; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 627039370/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.198/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.198 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkoCANYT7U1YbR7G/2dsb2JhbAAMR4RKkzuYCa92kGqBK4NsgQoElTOLAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,327,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="627039370" Message-ID: <4DED14BC.6030202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:56:12 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2140 Lines: 60 mark francombe wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > ...and Expert Mode is a mystery, no-body knows who specified it, > ...and nobody claims to be the relevant Expert ;-) > ( discussing with Matt, we think it's some kind of an emulation > of the Boomerang...we can tell you what it does...but not why > > > Go on then.. Tell us what it does! > Ive never figured it out... just puts the pedal backwards and the > feedback knob er.. no thats wrong... er... > Actually I'm pretty glad others don't know either! I thought I was stupid! ok, from memory or it's no fun. When in Play mode feedback is 100% When Overdubbing feedback is taken from the front panel knob, or from the expression pedal if that is used. ..and when the EDP is in Sampleplay mode (loops called up directly by midi note) the Expression pedal controls the Output Volume. The "pedals backwards" thing is something called Flip Mode, inspired by the pedal controlled ducking looper on the Vortex. Kind of a soft version of Substitute. > > Also: (getting away from the topic) > Does anyone actually use Insert? I give it a go every so often, but > never have good results... My favourite way is to set Quantise=Cycle InsertMode=SUS tap in a very short loop (one beat), and then each press of Insert increases the loop length by an equal chunk of time. Kind of similar to the 8th Replace thing, but with an ever expanding loop. Nice to improvise while occasionally adding a beat to the loop. With 2 EDPs in stereo config.....now brace yourself.... I also have a thing where I hit the Insert button on the panel of the second EDP. Then the 2 EDP are in a polyrhythmic relationship with one always being just one beat longer than the other. I like the non-Quantised SUS Insert too, kind of a spider web rhythm to play and keep adding to the loop. (a good trick at a loopfest when everyone thinks you're a "song based" looper). Stomping on Reverse and HSP helps of course. ...and of course, everybody loves using Insert with StutterMode don't they? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 18:04:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29F0A18348A; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wzCHgnq1UJseiLZEhoCFPNlT+ORLd8xA/2lzejIOkng=; b=u6D3aoKWKq8b65gI9F/a2IRczQ6i4BPkPX4SO0ry0IglMhmWjvI2GQVCzGaCc8h4xz 5+NV4qpA1AtSwzhTGP1qFoCNsLQw8e4HXy0LkVlhR5pyR/J8vVJ5RK68Gb87E9Iko14b sUul0mYKuBN8Eig5Uer3OH//HOyH3aWADGeO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M0rcLDsOSrzLqDLkJ5hPgAtAUozCryXWsjU6Q3CpVehas9AKTe7+ZwvvLB6FTazOpy LQ0yhXD+aNaJ7lpPWmxkcBCvZ94zox6xSI0odyoNyLL8Z5Cygsn9N9JfPdyZ3v4N9hXg /sGVXnV7lO7iW0csntf8E2xcTze9+jJeCdW6Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:04:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Film Spam From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4d56a67489504a50ef0b8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2516 Lines: 63 --000e0cd4d56a67489504a50ef0b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'll try to be there! On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:47 PM, mark francombe wrote: > If anyone lives in Paris, five of my films are being shown at a tiny film > festival in a little bar somewhere. Al the films have looping music, > although they are showing one of my Cranes videos from the dark ages... > Heres the Facebook event page which has all the details: > > http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=197962246915993 > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --000e0cd4d56a67489504a50ef0b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll try to be there!

On Mon, Jun 6, = 2011 at 7:47 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
If anyone lives in Paris, five of my films are being shown at a tiny film f= estival in a little bar somewhere. Al the films have looping music, althoug= h they are showing one of my Cranes videos from the dark ages... Heres the = Facebook event page which has all the details:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D197962246915993<= br clear=3D"all">
--
Mark Fra= ncombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

--000e0cd4d56a67489504a50ef0b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 18:42:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5984C183489; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-513521356 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Help fill my rack!!! Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:41:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3160 Lines: 67 --Apple-Mail-1-513521356 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit too bad these are 3 spaces! and they do absolutely nothing!!!! way cool though. http://cgi.ebay.com/FUNK-LOGIC-3PIII-Palindrometer-RACK-PANEL-WEIRD-1807-/380344169130?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588e4772aa#ht_1530wt_899 but seriously, these are all about sequencing but I can't say they are shallow enough for you. http://cgi.ebay.com/Emu-Orbit-9090-Dance-Planet-NICE-/120732896288?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item1c1c3dcc20#ht_4237wt_923 ditto for the mophatt, I may be incorrect but I blelieve both of these have powerfull programmable sequencers. http://cgi.ebay.com/Emu-Orbit-9090-Dance-Planet-NICE-/120732896288?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item1c1c3dcc20#ht_4237wt_923 Bill --Apple-Mail-1-513521356 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable too bad these are = 3 spaces!   and = they do absolutely nothing!!!! way cool = though.


ditto for the mophatt, I may be incorrect but I blelieve both of = these have powerfull programmable = sequencers. 


Bill=
= --Apple-Mail-1-513521356-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 19:49:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9374B18349D; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Reyn Ouwehand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-517562244 Subject: Re: Help fill my rack!!! Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:49:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <7FAD3271-1235-4A8B-94A7-B8E134548E8D@reyn.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QTfnd-00030b-BQ X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.899, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4110 Lines: 97 --Apple-Mail-3-517562244 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii YES! Wanted to say Funk Logic too... I got all 3 in my rack here! :-) Palindrometer rules! I fooled quiet some A&R's and artists with it... = ;-) Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net www.reyn.net/studio On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 PM, William Walker wrote: > and they do absolutely nothing!!!! way cool though. >=20 >=20 > = http://cgi.ebay.com/FUNK-LOGIC-3PIII-Palindrometer-RACK-PANEL-WEIRD-1807-/= 380344169130?pt=3DLH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=3Ditem588e4772aa#ht_1530wt_899 >=20 >=20 > but seriously, these are all about sequencing but I can't say they = are shallow enough for you. >=20 >=20 > = http://cgi.ebay.com/Emu-Orbit-9090-Dance-Planet-NICE-/120732896288?pt=3DKe= yboards_MIDI&hash=3Ditem1c1c3dcc20#ht_4237wt_923 >=20 > ditto for the mophatt, I may be incorrect but I blelieve both of these = have powerfull programmable sequencers.=20 >=20 > = http://cgi.ebay.com/Emu-Orbit-9090-Dance-Planet-NICE-/120732896288?pt=3DKe= yboards_MIDI&hash=3Ditem1c1c3dcc20#ht_4237wt_923 >=20 > Bill --Apple-Mail-3-517562244 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii www.reyn.net

=
On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 PM, William Walker wrote:

   and = they do absolutely nothing!!!! way cool = though.


ditto for the mophatt, I may be incorrect but I blelieve both of = these have powerfull programmable = sequencers. 


Bill=

= --Apple-Mail-3-517562244-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 19:50:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAA8F183466; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X433P/J0WrfyGEABOAA1tXEOKSm00Ptvqj8kUSppNRI=; b=QoLGtTWLeUjMNA+2UHumkKGEDO89rM35ZyfYfThl58XS8zPTYTLD+B+NQBN5vrzEgr 73fnr5MQlmJ8kl8g4jWQA2pP/b9Ldjeu/zZg5GUpZH3zHmBDUO64y0heX4BqtyH3YsCN p/uJwIE8xunwxwj260AEG6jWG6H4T023lm9UE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=KgGzvdgqXdr7ufJ3YJ8dro9uo96UUvwNn9W5tmGSQzRZ83ym6aRJhbia2Tap10tv7u Zn/DnzgCOxs9RZFGn7okW/PG1dGesBhsEoytHPugeKent2Yq4JX6Eo3fM6h2ax40tZzE mGMM/DRSgSK7CF1AfM0UprKRPitv/IZ5see+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:50:45 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Bdevz3qW0SRjow23CR9AA43ekig Message-ID: Subject: Gear From: daniel To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd483605a428804a5106bd9 Resent-Message-ID: <-NL0a.A.knG.Y-S7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1004 Lines: 31 --000e0cd483605a428804a5106bd9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone in the Boston area in need of a PA mixer? I'm selling my Mackie 408M. It's powered, sounds great, in awesome condition and up for sale! Selling for it for $275 on CraigsList, but I'll give it to one of my looping brethren for $250. Hope y'all are enjoying the beautiful weather! love Daniel www.iamdanielharris.com --000e0cd483605a428804a5106bd9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone in the Boston area in need of a PA mixer? I'm selling my Mackie = 408M. It's powered, sounds great, in awesome condition and up for sale!=

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--000e0cd483605a428804a5106bd9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 20:10:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F0091834A2; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=m3uXL/4DSxe2Ib8+mVMIFG+d+FqP5TM9qdUGD555tkM=; b=mHPW4y9yg/XLg3Sjls9mk0l3+bZc5dbyijNa4xTeqLZF528NwrLqjyyRHXh4iACWT8 O0pPunnPLUPe8tCMbG08TMl7TrOar3jjlBZFAm3pNXTXErt8C0j9NMGNsZ2oUlKfJbao BNoS9xsgPC9PTMvgrhE4tj031nbT0Ga4rMUQc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LJMqKX9eLjQtCOZ2uEy4p5plt3Tc8QK0qaK/R8e2Ty6HownU+7NwJCHQpyvywE2wNl 3ZkEDjqizBHMbd8Om+UrNrxIsabdeA69qeH6pdG6SoB3Lq7O5TXv3ujlmZqfHxcCjXgF i5ewYjGKr1wceZF7xUH+xp6/F77m6qPb84Nik= Message-ID: <4DED3440.3020705@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:10:40 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help fill my rack!!! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1276 Lines: 33 mark francombe schrieb: > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=1371 > > Anyway, due to the fact that when folded down the rack items must not > clash with the drawer items, there is a gap in the middle, of about 2U. > > THIS WILL NOT DO! Cool setup! Let's see, there's two EDPs, a Repeater, and a Vortex (which also counts as a looper) - so why not add two Looperlatives? ;-P How much is "shallow" for that installation situation? If 12cm is not too much: Nord Modular G2 Engine. Add an Akai MPD24 to control it (put it next to the footswitches). Claude Voit used to use one to control his EDPs via the sequencer. MAM (music and more - do they still exist?) have done several analogue 1HU thingies: the RS3 (3 korg-style bandpass filters), a moog-style lowpass, a 11-band vocoder and a tb303 sound module. The Waldorf MicroQ is very shallow, but not hardcore-tweakable (4 soft knobs). Same goes for the Microwave. and the Pulse (analogue). No sequencer that I know of, though. The Rack Attack is mainly good for drum sounds, but can also do convincing leads/basslines - and has some kind of pattern sequencer. Waldorf, in my opinion, is always a good idea... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 20:21:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1B2D183473; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 597 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:21:34 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjgHALAz7U0yaFkk/2dsb2JhbABTl26OIYlhwGeGIQSGdI5NixA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,327,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="105365475" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.89.36 Message-Id: <3817571B-52F3-4A5A-B00F-1ACD3AB23D26@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4DED3440.3020705@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Help fill my rack!!! Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:15:50 -0500 References: <4DED3440.3020705@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 33 Lines: 4 Buy my Eventide H8000. :) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 6 22:23:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C411E183486; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s94nz/KUDAwMd4NaA/QEeOM+KnggjDOx4nFmTa7kQog=; b=cnEPpYQIu9qSSivq8ctZC8PMQOvWKrWOJIBWcsqJ3Zx549WE/niLzN925q63AagtL0 3vZDnZ0NEwclpQixgGzGh3Cufu6uwP8wlVh/49+rKfINamxBtgfHYQheZv0tAn0adNs4 kQRhq+4lmcAxA2vNyPWqu2utKTitwCWi20D1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dYe/y1oWqRCHGe8KKWo4R2mREkH6UXG55u/vLWTQ4kV9fD1GdOovqhmoA5IXkbWjlt PDi1qbn+dL2MBwrdW2O9p0kpl7x91VJ0XhPTzRZdeDJSmMkjUkdSkmqbpFV94rt9B44h /bwNDR5WqyWCF7d+QPc/5YcEbJI/w43VLLKK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DED14BC.6030202@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <4DED14BC.6030202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:23:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5954c880c3504a5128c85 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5753 Lines: 126 --000e0cd5954c880c3504a5128c85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Do you guys think an lp1 would work for me? Is the midi sync reliable? On Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM, "andy butler" wrote: > mark francombe wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, andy butler > > wrote: >> >> ...and Expert Mode is a mystery, no-body knows who specified it, >> ...and nobody claims to be the relevant Expert ;-) >> ( discussing with Matt, we think it's some kind of an emulation >> of the Boomerang...we can tell you what it does...but not why >> >> >> Go on then.. Tell us what it does! >> Ive never figured it out... just puts the pedal backwards and the >> feedback knob er.. no thats wrong... er... >> Actually I'm pretty glad others don't know either! I thought I was stupid! > > ok, from memory or it's no fun. > > When in Play mode feedback is 100% > When Overdubbing feedback is taken from the front panel knob, > or from the expression pedal if that is used. > > ..and when the EDP is in Sampleplay mode (loops called up directly > by midi note) the Expression pedal controls the Output Volume. > > The "pedals backwards" thing is something called Flip Mode, > inspired by the pedal controlled ducking looper on the Vortex. > Kind of a soft version of Substitute. > >> >> Also: (getting away from the topic) >> Does anyone actually use Insert? I give it a go every so often, but >> never have good results... > > My favourite way is to set > Quantise=Cycle > InsertMode=SUS > tap in a very short loop (one beat), > and then each press of Insert increases the > loop length by an equal chunk of time. > Kind of similar to the 8th Replace thing, but with an ever expanding loop. > Nice to improvise while occasionally adding a beat to the loop. > > With 2 EDPs in stereo config.....now brace yourself.... > I also have a thing where I hit the Insert button on the panel > of the second EDP. Then the 2 EDP are in a polyrhythmic relationship > with one always being just one beat longer than the other. > > > I like the non-Quantised SUS Insert too, kind of a spider web rhythm > to play and keep adding to the loop. (a good trick at a loopfest when > everyone thinks you're a "song based" looper). > Stomping on Reverse and HSP > helps of course. > > ...and of course, everybody loves using Insert with StutterMode don't they? > > > andy > --000e0cd5954c880c3504a5128c85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Do you guys think an lp1 would work for me? Is the midi sync reliable?

On Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM, "andy butler"= <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk&g= t; wrote:
> mark francombe wrote:
>> >>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>&g= t; <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co= .uk>> wrote:
>>
>> ...and Expert Mode is a mystery, no-body knows wh= o specified it,
>> ...and nobody claims to be the relevant Exp= ert ;-)
>> ( discussing with Matt, we think it's some kind= of an emulation
>> of the Boomerang...we can tell you what it does...but not why=
>>
>>
>> Go on then.. Tell us what it does!>> Ive never figured it out... just puts the pedal backwards and th= e
>> feedback knob er.. no thats wrong... er...
>> Actually I&= #39;m pretty glad others don't know either! I thought I was stupid!
= >
> ok, from memory or it's no fun.
>
> When in = Play mode feedback is 100%
> When Overdubbing feedback is taken from the front panel knob,
> = or from the expression pedal if that is used.
>
> ..and when t= he EDP is in Sampleplay mode (loops called up directly
> by midi note= ) the Expression pedal controls the Output Volume.
>
> The "pedals backwards" thing is something called Fl= ip Mode,
> inspired by the pedal controlled ducking looper on the Vor= tex.
> Kind of a soft version of Substitute.
>
>> >> Also: (getting away from the topic)
>> Does anyone actual= ly use Insert? I give it a go every so often, but
>> never have g= ood results...
>
> My favourite way is to set
> Quantise= =3DCycle
> InsertMode=3DSUS
> tap in a very short loop (one beat),
> = and then each press of Insert increases the
> loop length by an equal= chunk of time.
> Kind of similar to the 8th Replace thing, but with = an ever expanding loop.
> Nice to improvise while occasionally adding a beat to the loop.
>= ;
> With 2 EDPs in stereo config.....now brace yourself....
> = I also have a thing where I hit the Insert button on the panel
> of t= he second EDP. Then the 2 EDP are in a polyrhythmic relationship
> with one always being just one beat longer than the other.
> >
> I like the non-Quantised SUS Insert too, kind of a spider we= b rhythm
> to play and keep adding to the loop. (a good trick at a lo= opfest when
> everyone thinks you're a "song based" looper).
> S= tomping on Reverse and HSP
> helps of course.
>
> ...and= of course, everybody loves using Insert with StutterMode don't they? >
>
> andy
>
--000e0cd5954c880c3504a5128c85-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 06:05:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6892918348A; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 06:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JNrT5FBLZQj7Z396Cqh3DmH3gKCWr3oJ8vmu8yRFrWc=; b=R80WXS7SoqO/TU5kOMltqhHB2TIFbSK0ZU+Jm0+5zd3oA8CLWngolh/u6hVV2gTkDg RvaiOKlmIUQ9VgPl480v6N0FBOzfWPZguwLh2lxQLXHlJ7wYN1czXmCoREe+aXv3DZ/5 HS6mhE26PDWbNehZ/SdEUkhikTp23E21cE4so= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FZYPu5CuxjXaNwRU2xxw9eK8rNIu4GCi751sp9SdBl2/k+D8LMrjw32DIwDNuH1JP+ BJ/Yo+F377AZUYrRbFCoO4bX9MvFyIhpHzwUlykIod8hX7fqtPJoOVLrUcVPr15VkvAv HT8BHWjF/toAIQawujVO5TWP1kUONr0x6gLfg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 02:05:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: OT in need of a manual for a Korg O5R/W From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fb1b59f87f304a519023c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 06:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1487 Lines: 36 --0016367fb1b59f87f304a519023c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, Picked up some great deals at a yard sale this weekend. One was a Korg O5R/W synth module. Unfortunatetly, I can't find a manual online anywhere. Found some links but they are all dead. Would anybody happen to have a softcopy of one? To keep it on topic, I also picked up a Digitech Jamman (first style) for $10 with no power supply. Unfortunately, not a single power supply in the Box-O-Power will work so I have no idea if it'll even power up. That was worth all the crap my wife buys and fills the house with. :) -- -==-=-=- Tony --0016367fb1b59f87f304a519023c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
=A0
Picked up some great deals at a yard s= ale this weekend.=A0 One was a Korg O5R/W synth module.=A0 Unfortunatetly, = I can't find a manual online anywhere.=A0 Found some links but they are= all dead.=A0 Would anybody happen to have a softcopy of one?
=A0
To keep it on topic, I also picked up a Digitech Jamman = (first style) for $10 with no power supply.=A0 Unfortunately, not a single = power supply in the Box-O-Power will work so I have no idea if it'll ev= en power up.=A0
That was worth all the crap my wife buys and fills the house wit= h. :)

--
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Tony
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From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e1f5592ae3e04a51a28d5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 10044 Lines: 210 --0016368e1f5592ae3e04a51a28d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I rarely use the "record new part to empty loop slot" on the EDP,im so used to copying while overdubbing and there is still a lot to do with that. Though i having lots of fun now with 2 EDPs controlled separately with my PMC10 ,this footcontroller is god send,finally i can completely control both independently but synced with one FC,no software all hardware! Until now i had used them in stereo which as Mark said was a waste of time,now is like having 2 separate tracks with all of its advance midi features i have one as master and slave,i can completly screw around with ones speed,reverse,replace etc. while the other remains normal and wow they will stay synced! i wish there was a feature like i have in mobius where i could spontaneoulsy define which one is the master,i suppose it could be done with midi but it could be a bit lethal;-) Any tips and tricks using both in this maner is very welcomed! Luis On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Hey: > > I haven't either. I really need to define that function as I am having > difficulty getting my loop tempos matched as well as keeping sound levels at > a similar level. If I remember correctly, the 'loop copy' function has to be > defined to one of the assignable buttons - such as the 'bonus' button. I > think by, default, one of them has 'play once' defined to it which is > useless to me. > > Regards, Paul > > > > --- On *Mon, 6/6/11, Louie Angulo * wrote: > > > From: Louie Angulo > Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions(boomerang III?) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 4:41 AM > > > heya gang talking about "next loop" ive been watching some of the new > rang videos,which mostly show going into an empty loop when switching > between them for creating musical A/B parts > but is it possible to simply copy and overdub on the fly like you can > with the EDP? havent seen that feature shown if there is one on a vid > yet. > thanx! > Luis > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:52 AM, marcus kirby > > wrote: > > That answers a few things. Thanks! > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:18 AM, mark francombe > > > > wrote: > >> > >> Your posts illustrates your misunderstanding of next loop, you can > either > >> make a new empty loop, or a copy of your current loop, or a silent loop > at > >> the same length as your current loop. All can be affected by the switch > loop > >> parameter, that can set when it will switch to the next loop. So > stepping on > >> Next loop, in order to go from loop 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks of > >> nextloop during the quantise period before the switch will happen. I > think > >> you maybe able to set switches to jump you to particular loops too. Best > >> thing is ti try it out... > >> > >> Sent from my (advertisement removed) > >> On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:16, marcus kirby > > wrote: > >> > >> I've read about this function in the manual, but never realized its > >> potential until Per suggested using it. > >> How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple loops function? > >> Setting up the number of loops is easy enough, but I'm wanting to know > how > >> to do the following: > >> For example, this is how one of my songs starts. > >> Loop 1 = Single hit > >> Loop 2 = string sound > >> Loop 3 = bass line > >> Loop 4 = funky guitar muting > >> Loop 5 = hi hat / snare sound > >> Loop 6 = vocal line > >> I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest going. > At > >> that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventually, I'd > want > >> to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How could I go about > >> switching/moving through the loops and copying as such? > >> > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > -- www.luis-angulo.com --0016368e1f5592ae3e04a51a28d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I rarely use the "record new part to empty loop slot" on the EDP,= im so used to copying while overdubbing and there is still a lot to do with= that.
Though i having=A0 lots of fun now with 2 EDPs controlled separat= ely with my PMC10 ,this footcontroller is god send,finally i can completely= control both independently but synced with one FC,no software all hardware= !
Until now i had used them in stereo which=A0 as Mark said was a waste of ti= me,now is like having 2 separate tracks with all of its advance midi featur= es
i have one as master and slave,i can completly screw around with ones= speed,reverse,replace etc. while the other remains normal and wow they wil= l stay synced!
i wish there was a feature like i have in mobius where i could spontaneouls= y define which one is the master,i suppose it could be done with midi but i= t could be a bit lethal;-)
Any tips and tricks using both in this maner = is very welcomed!
Luis

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Paul= Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey:
=A0
I haven't either. I really need to define that function as I am ha= ving difficulty getting my loop tempos matched as well as keeping sound lev= els at a similar level. If I remember correctly, the 'loop copy' fu= nction has to be defined to one of the assignable buttons - such as the = 9;bonus' button. I think by, default, one of them has 'play once= 9; defined to it which is useless to me.
=A0
Regards, Paul
=A0


--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
Su= bject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions(boomerang III?)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 4:= 41 AM


heya gang talking about "next loop" ive been watching some o= f the new
rang videos,which mostly show going into an empty loop when sw= itching
between them for creating musical A/B parts
but is it possibl= e to simply copy and overdub on the fly like you can
with the EDP? havent seen that feature shown if there is one on a vid
ye= t.
thanx!
Luis

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:52 AM, marcus kirby &l= t;marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> That answers a few things. Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011= at 2:18 AM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gma= il.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Your posts illustrates your misundersta= nding of next loop, you can either
>> make a new empty loop, or a copy of your current loop, = or a silent loop at
>> the same length as your current loop. All c= an be affected by the switch loop
>> parameter, that can set when = it will switch to the next loop. So stepping on
>> Next loop, in order to go from loop 1 to loop 3, requires 2 clicks= of
>> nextloop during the quantise period before the switch will = happen. I think
>> you maybe able to set switches to jump you to p= articular loops too. Best
>> thing is ti try it out...
>>
>> Sent from my (ad= vertisement removed)
>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:16, marcus kirby <= marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've read about this function in the manual, but n= ever realized its
>> potential until Per suggested using it.
>> How do I go about setting up the nextloop / multiple= loops function?
>> Setting up the number of loops is easy enough,= but I'm wanting to know how
>> to do the following:
>&g= t; For example, this is how one of my songs starts.
>> Loop 1 =3D Single hit
>> Loop 2 =3D string sound
>&= gt; Loop 3 =3D bass line
>> Loop 4 =3D funky guitar muting
>= > Loop 5 =3D hi hat / snare sound
>> Loop 6 =3D vocal line
&= gt;> I want to be able to remove loops 1 and loop 4, leaving the rest go= ing. At
>> that point, I'd like to swap loop 3 with a bass synth. Eventua= lly, I'd want
>> to swap the hi-hats for a drum machine. How c= ould I go about
>> switching/moving through the loops and copying = as such?
>>
>
>



--
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--0016368e1f5592ae3e04a51a28d5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 07:42:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 047BF183473; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nENFkzo3Mw5WOxnUEHGMcVYSbO7d4fVMm77Y0pEhUms=; b=FieADBPs5mI9wzUUr/cZ0yvlnHBqdNsTUurT5JwSZ9gEovYu1gghguEGCnSNnjpLoQ J0Y/aq6EXbem+d6FRSwTRhjkVje+z2zjEbH1FgWsTYt8mlhSVdYyU0f/AY1zJNhpjrzq /vMKYWTGG3NY7pqa31UKx8JUJdi3FUrI887yU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=seFy18i9yang624dMMLsjoy1tTbX48wEosRRClfxJULbtPcm9o776YLKZh8HJ61uY+ f46aYAqQTTAi8rQrZOI9gtyosYD6Otchd0IaByU3SP/l7jAUUBeDcfh4TVkj2jAYdnJg Kllk+UUIWMcDBudHQtkKp6mah9OiKBGI25hP0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DED14BC.6030202@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <4DED14BC.6030202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:42:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1061 Lines: 34 > With 2 EDPs in stereo config.....now brace yourself.... > I also have a thing where I hit the Insert button on the panel > of the second EDP. Then the 2 EDP are in a polyrhythmic relationship > with one always being just one beat longer than the other. ok Andy this sounds cool! but how do you do this so the second EDP is exact in polyrhythm with the 1st one? do you keep insterting until it does? are u just using them in stereo or controlling them separate? > I like the non-Quantised SUS Insert too, kind of a spider web rhythm > to play and keep adding to the loop. (a good trick at a loopfest when > everyone thinks you're a "song based" looper). > Stomping on Reverse and HSP > helps of course. Yes i also use this as well,then when you get a salad nonrhytmical nonsense mess,remultiply it to a simple 4/4 groove for ex. and kick in the drum machine or sampler to back it up;-) > ...and of course, everybody loves using Insert with StutterMode don't they? eh...never used that one,got a recording of it? > > > andy > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 07:51:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AA43183489; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DFV0n6OnX3RTCvWqSVZFblGOjERdFKAe5OcwzEmOZII=; b=xfUpf6OULUujSmln6rTz/oBnBjdPP4u007VKJ4IzlWndzTOO341ctGqOE/ALbrVpFX 5wIY9IfYWgSOdyQMuKqSSeQQIEcPjOAzapktdtEvj4CqzrUvThg+H0a6rZwRh/EhiZim rPpNVJ1sHIOvqcJN2lthPxeifuKVUFNtiWmwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LD6TAMrQjkWXOIBDMGH4i9ywwL/hkYnq5QAvnUx/xtBMv2WrFw7f3iq2UnCdjAJKPK Pd/DzsmeVCT8PEf8m+qaewUBNCJsAeBWb9Zm12Dzai+Okvi2miHP4S1PyMESsiSssljJ 7naGFsOES9Px4l9DhR1txX1iBDpB49mNFlDPk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:51:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help fill my rack!!! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1958 Lines: 67 wow you frickin maniac! Well if u can find them id add the half rack electrix EQ killer and the half rack filter queen,this are very cool button tap tone manipulators,they thake both 2 spaces vertically and you d still have 2 spearate devices to mess with and the look awesome! thats what i used , here is a pic of my rack days,the third one form top to bottom: http://www.luis-angulo.com/gear Luis On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:41 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Guys... My latest rack build. (adding the new Kaos pads on a rack drawer) > means that I had to move things about in the part of the rack that "folds > up". > Yes its a magic box of tricks, add water and it grows to 3 times its size= ! > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D1371 > > Anyway, due to the fact that when folded down the rack items must not cla= sh > with the drawer items, there is a gap in the middle, of about 2U. > > THIS WILL NOT DO! > > Suggestions please, for... weird tings that make sounds, (with very littl= e > depth, and edp with cables in is TOO MUCH, it must be FLAT!!!)=A0 in the = synth > direction but must be hand tweakable and self contained (not synth module= s) > maybe some noise box stuff, or rythym thing would be great, pref not a pl= ain > old drum machine, although I was looking for something to sequnce my EDPS > recently (rmember that thread?) > > Please be creative? it doesnt even have to be electronic, I was even > thinking of one of those creations my Peter B where the connections can b= e > made by living worms... > > Anyway heres the picture of a rack with an annoying gap in it... I have > annotated the rack with "Annoying gap" incase you cant spot it.. > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D1371 > > Mark > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 08:19:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28AFA183464; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 620827210/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.178.97/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.178.97 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhkCACHe7U1V0rJh/2dsb2JhbAAMR5dw2R2GIQSVSIsI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,331,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="620827210" Message-ID: <4DEDDF1C.4060506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 09:19:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <4DED14BC.6030202@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1606 Lines: 58 Louie Angulo wrote: >> With 2 EDPs in stereo config.....now brace yourself.... >> I also have a thing where I hit the Insert button on the panel >> of the second EDP. Then the 2 EDP are in a polyrhythmic relationship >> with one always being just one beat longer than the other. > > ok Andy this sounds cool! but how do you do this so the second EDP is > exact in polyrhythm with the 1st one? do you keep insterting until it > does? > are u just using them in stereo or controlling them separate? you first follow the instructions that were just above those ones in the original mail:- >Quantise=Cycle >InsertMode=SUS >tap in a very short loop (one beat), >and then each press of Insert increases the >loop length by an equal chunk of time. >Kind of similar to the 8th Replace thing, but with an ever expanding loop. So you're starting from the point where the 2 edps are synced, and just Insert a single cycle to the slave. Going back to the footcontroller, each press of Insert adds one beat to both EDPs. Typically I'd record a short loop, and hit the Insert on the slave front panel. so EDP Left is 1 cycle EDP Right is 2 cycle ...not so interesting till the regular Insert is used again EDP Left is 2 cycle EDP Right is 3 cycle ...and again EDP Left is 3 cycle EDP Right is 4 cycle Just like 8th Replace, except that the timing's different, and you're using whole cycles instead of 8ths >> ...and of course, everybody loves using Insert with StutterMode don't they? > > eh...never used that one,got a recording of it? not that I can access easily. Andre Lafosse used it a lot. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 11:00:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33C89183473; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 13:00:41 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/R4YJKTPHRaQ08+42qQ+/qEbUjbuh69kXeI//v5I KVfeLDkIVt3UQklLMb8MTMFGo0lpnwUMJHKQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 4TPbeRpWTiE+Zdp6nGVwKNp9ZUVSRNeD Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 350 Lines: 15 Hi folks just checked the new Faderfox LV3 (on web): http://www.faderfox.de/ It's just so perfect: 8 faders, USB (no power/midi necessary), Ableton-support (if you like)... Looks really great imo... Best Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 11:44:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03FF8183473; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1vXQVdtr18p9RfXPju7TVos3mDSg8G1eAyAw+aLB4sA=; b=x6S/wKCmYGRjV30EJCBF5jrBWXmfPMwoy5OSx5DlWmU4T25mPtohiQDonWvtsTvpVz 1rEPZaNvQNwl8a764ONZY8taCuoZDw4N3iSiIyS9CAiSkPGCGpz4r90Zl2DI7h4dbZwx fnqmI7r+b3zhDoJUqtsxCHRNnZ2DLyir4Twiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pn+3JpgJzkwr7mW1bmTG1e5PbJwZSiAJ0HiOV45PEtDiJbaBVg4AiYjooI/VpgH3rQ LjGWgr1yslBuLOHGglbX4YVCYt9dIZAhTdYxLPn6w/809UniX8nvpbL4W8aXGIwqbq1Y AsLIUDcRvgTPKuh8X9J6XHOAQzZC08aZ97ULw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:44:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <3-JCiC.A.EMC.e8g7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 563 Lines: 17 On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > just checked the new Faderfox LV3 (on web): > http://www.faderfox.de/ > > It's just so perfect: 8 faders, USB (no power/midi necessary), Ableton-support (if you like)... > > Looks really great imo... You haven't bought one yet? I too checked it out recently. Looking very useful. Having two joysticks would be really, really useful!!! CDM had a good article about it, including link to a demo video on YouTube. It's also informative to read what people post at CDM. http://t.co/1wlF7Yl Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 11:52:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FRT_TODAY2,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DD2F183465; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Dq/X2AoBnWGNReZ6uGkd2gmIfOlZx/Mh4m+iU4vNy6U=; b=T2eq9cDjpmTGqCdk/5inuhuqs6Velw44bE76Ylu9jNxraqVFh1HpaY/1h1tyIMPjDG EdFQrmLgWFL8hfs5EzhuLlD4g+1SyZJIni7SWaajnMHWi+iGB/LxZjrqYGIgvkkHpORs Kcz0Ae6JAQzdhZKk0PG5PJ21lmUMXXvA1q0GU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=umNGX9OeMoeN+w8tSLUS27ImhSMfupbbizOgH4juHJAv1KsQzTURkGnUMjK1nCcTwd Am/xO/Nw8M6UHUfZVMhA7j9/3+5hI9Q6twvldIrc/FO8ePzRY4iwwIoxIdv85E3hlK3d djZHYekaZ0HwR/tn8jxvOvU7SMHd0y/tfEtcM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> From: todd reynolds Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:52:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174764b434065404a51ddb03 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5018 Lines: 134 --0015174764b434065404a51ddb03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a couple of old faderfox boxes I'm still trying to sell my friends, if anyone's interested in the earlier boxes... AND. I want to ask if you both have tried Touchable on the iPad? Two Joysticks which even have a programmable release response! T. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > just checked the new Faderfox LV3 (on web): > > http://www.faderfox.de/ > > > > It's just so perfect: 8 faders, USB (no power/midi necessary), > Ableton-support (if you like)... > > > > Looks really great imo... > > > You haven't bought one yet? I too checked it out recently. Looking > very useful. Having two joysticks would be really, really useful!!! > > CDM had a good article about it, including link to a demo video on > YouTube. It's also informative to read what people post at CDM. > http://t.co/1wlF7Yl > > Per > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174764b434065404a51ddb03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a couple of old faderfox boxes I'm still trying to sell my frien= ds, if anyone's interested in the earlier boxes...=A0

AND.=A0

I want to ask if you both have tried Tou= chable on the iPad? =A0Two Joysticks which even have a programmable release= response!=A0

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On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wro= te:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:= 00 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net&g= t; wrote:
> just checked the new Faderfox LV3 (on web):
> http://www.fader= fox.de/
>
> It's just so perfect: 8 faders, USB (no power/midi necessary), Abl= eton-support (if you like)...
>
> Looks really great imo...


You haven't bought one yet? I too checked it out recently. Lookin= g
very useful. Having two joysticks would be really, really useful!!!

CDM had a good article about it, including link to a demo video on
YouTube. It's also informative to read what people post at CDM.
http://t.co/1wlF7Yl
Per




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015174764b434065404a51ddb03-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 12:03:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FRT_TODAY2,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96AA7183465; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tVx2DYy8QSYAAxGqZzK9TmfwpoPM5Cdf+AG5RrPUot4=; b=gGUBcMlqjVoH2Y7Xfs9DRtlyBBj3U1NmzwqxN+hxQUpa9wPPtAV9IW8zVYsPJffxLi Jkn0RKB2IQqIF1SCqmuSV3h1dOYYVADd1V95Z2w+wPhsuK535gqPwoyZboChNuOBoB2X y9f+uovGITixBK71G3jDOZiMRPN3v57sbwfjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OP6OKp101h2F9k8tyIVR0k3wmtwfmdaY71Fo8iW5wlpmbw9B3NexaS6HVja1yLEVfA 7/wCYfjDZmKSiA7LKBRabzOLVdkUqAFFMTVX3uCSa7gttaoIroE3a1t4CJSMwcmr8O8G 1k/DJ+NZnjZ+sfaIuko7DhjIoqSA5WCdvMqV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:03:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 896 Lines: 20 On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:52 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > I want to ask if you both have tried Touchable on the iPad? =C2=A0Two Joy= sticks > which even have a programmable release response! I guess that question addresses me, since I was the one mentioning the greatness of having two Joysticks. No, I have not tried Touchable on an iPad. I only have an iPhone as for touch screen controllers. But I prefer physical controllers that can be manipulated by a finger or two without having to look at it for visual feedback. I've used the Faderfox LV1 and LX1 since 2004 and think the are great! But one MIDI port has stopped working and I think USB power support would be better when going out for concerts and you don't want to bring too much junk with you. I am also more comfy with popping in a USB cable compared to setting up a stable network during sound check ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 12:15:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FRT_TODAY2,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 681C0183463; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=evmTUMeQ5SInHdlw/cCV1sfOJFviV3RV6GeUt715qcc=; b=I9+lMIiy+r0pY+NPhK6xLryDsWaHR0DJ9LCfqx/mGce+wBX/BiPbZ7Nd8O0IVWCs6F NGfDk3rwyeQ2ABb4qmohEIS3NCNvGitiq9Dth4Js4S2XzNPZ9ptDMRy1QntBtG26EWv5 +NQIUKC1443XoGi4HIKhjht1Hf5FRVT+4O2mI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=EOuYIhSEMzkYQUSYHIgaIVjnu/5M2OI8df0t0soNJLb8YGocj/1zg5/WwGujVok+mt z1SGl0EsyOtGOFERDCm2shrHQ43tUZ8s1hW/LqlGXEaXwvIf7W+00P0fJnRwXYulRIx4 thXcUHpY1MuD//EsYU4nMxRsAm0vZy34Kmm7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> From: todd reynolds Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:14:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bd6906278a504a51e2c03 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2930 Lines: 67 --0023545bd6906278a504a51e2c03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes of course, Per, I knew that about you, shouldn't have asked. and yes, this LV3 is interesting to me as well for the same reasons. I ended up not using them so much once I had an APC 40 in my hands... and yes, the midi thing was a bit of a pain. I guess the reason I went ahead and mentioned touchable is that the two joysticks are so large that one can basically reach out and touch them without too much visual feedback. Still though, you're right, it's not tactile. cheers, T. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:52 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > > I want to ask if you both have tried Touchable on the iPad? Two > Joysticks > > which even have a programmable release response! > > I guess that question addresses me, since I was the one mentioning the > greatness of having two Joysticks. No, I have not tried Touchable on > an iPad. I only have an iPhone as for touch screen controllers. But I > prefer physical controllers that can be manipulated by a finger or two > without having to look at it for visual feedback. > > --0023545bd6906278a504a51e2c03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes of course, Per, =A0I knew that about you, =A0shouldn't have asked. = =A0and yes, this LV3 is interesting to me as well for the same reasons. I e= nded up not using them so much once I had an APC 40 in my hands... and yes,= the midi thing was a bit of a pain. =A0

I guess the reason I went ahead and mentioned touchable is t= hat the two joysticks are so large that one can basically reach out and tou= ch them without too much visual feedback. =A0Still though, =A0you're ri= ght, it's not tactile.=A0

cheers, T.


On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:52 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to ask if you both have tried Touchable on the iPad? =A0Two Joy= sticks
> which even have a programmable release response!

I guess that question addresses me, since I was the one mentioning th= e
greatness of having two Joysticks. No, I have not tried Touchable on
an iPad. I only have an iPhone as for touch screen controllers. But I
prefer physical controllers that can be manipulated by a finger or two
without having to look at it for visual feedback.

--0023545bd6906278a504a51e2c03-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 14:17:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A836183462; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:17:38 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/dCSJ4SbDdlVBjwnpLyjW21qFdKeumGEZz6Y76Rx 97B9MltSfm/0DA+5KHu+NUeHMpE6TUKVpuWg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: OgTdeWhnf2IsAv5yl21okvx4dWxlc5ZP Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 458 Lines: 14 Hi Per > You haven't bought one yet? Not yet ;-) First of all, my Korg NanoKey+NanoKontrol still does a decent job and has a slim form-factor. Second: I wonder if the Faderfox buttons are too small for live looping? (hitting quickly at the end of the loop - not using foot switches...). best regards from Munich Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 14:42:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91484183473; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WtD3Mxrt807XlLgt7mbRYbaytNgdvV/g05s/hs47fhw=; b=YOH8pbWPhT1MyXMAr+TbnZJZdvAg/x/ZLo8eOOayuBm73TcsaRN863rnKkvTVGh9FK 2ntU8sckurYX5S0fJMmqHUYx6CLb65w5d0lPeYUepBmSrlANc6A2vFJIR7SeQ76t0PIv qOLAdf3eN9wut3HWePPwWok12klgqB07v9gfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j4gVKb+ZUpOZ/bqSAJ7EVWIz7T9YfCkZFTD9cukJYUtgfu95Go1MjDGgptj2jgVLFZ GPjo6nk3rhZaFZbWhTueVfy/A4BLoMrdiEZGw5lYPMLn969pvBrd5Xpwd/l72Kg47WZ1 BwRtp/7KGqLuFkYvXXRJkEGWr3Aq68LKg3Pv4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:42:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9ywQKB.A.5BG.Ijj7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 942 Lines: 20 On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Second: I wonder if the Faderfox buttons are too small for live looping? (hitting quickly at the end of the loop - not using foot switches...). Well, I'm not wondering about that here ;-)) Having used a LV1 for six years I think the buttons are perfect. You can access all buttons by any finger without the need to move the hand much, very fast. My fav setup is to have the same looping commands available at three places: MIDI foot pedal board, laptop keyboard keys, Faderfox buttons. But unfortunately Mainstage blocks Mobius key commands so I can't use them anymore. Have been thinking of moving back to my corresponding setup in Bidule but right now MS sounds so much better for what I'm doing, so I sacrifice those laptop key commands for fidelity fun factor :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 14:52:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07F4E183486; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Lnku8nUTXuwIlIhwH4eSNMHjI8Qs9m9ZPWG6+eX7dog=; b=wgPhxr25KHb9ATmpm+672b3RfpVa5Tj4ZXS9rWl9jXnc+9gnXyXPnixNV89iwiMxwE JRNlqa9cIvAkHgDuL2GJ1aHLkiVY86BHVtUatfqauLuyisfzOkv3OGOVF3m1GcmkzDqY IKoJ2k8DCk8uuZ6h8OMk5EPi/YNWAxIR/k9Ls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A3TzQ1nzkj76ej9ca/k0PUSdLfCjEC5h8J/HC9PDSY2Jy90k6O5WueEm/MUnrvpMJC idbYFtQx5wvYHLW0d2tMB8ZTwzklS1ka9WxeTN5fGQdH5W20GOyXjlmwUiT4BLP55V2J RcH7V4JHuDRXuce9fYOYcfeERGpcNqE6KusIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:52:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT in need of a manual for a Korg O5R/W From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a92b72e82c04a5205d10 Resent-Message-ID: <6HDO_C.A.lRG.dsj7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2371 Lines: 61 --bcaec548a92b72e82c04a5205d10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Try this link: http://www.korg.de/uploads/tx_softwarecenter/KORG_05RW_Handbuch_ENG.pdf On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Tony K wrote: > Hi all, > > Picked up some great deals at a yard sale this weekend. One was a Korg > O5R/W synth module. Unfortunatetly, I can't find a manual online anywhere. > Found some links but they are all dead. Would anybody happen to have a > softcopy of one? > > To keep it on topic, I also picked up a Digitech Jamman (first style) for > $10 with no power supply. Unfortunately, not a single power supply in the > Box-O-Power will work so I have no idea if it'll even power up. > That was worth all the crap my wife buys and fills the house with. :) > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --bcaec548a92b72e82c04a5205d10 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try this link:
http://www.korg.de/uploads/tx_softwarecenter/KOR= G_05RW_Handbuch_ENG.pdf

On Mon, Jun 6= , 2011 at 11:05 PM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
=A0
Picked= up some great deals at a yard sale this weekend.=A0 One was a Korg O5R/W s= ynth module.=A0 Unfortunatetly, I can't find a manual online anywhere.= =A0 Found some links but they are all dead.=A0 Would anybody happen to have= a softcopy of one?
=A0
To keep it on topic, I also picked up a Digitech Jamman = (first style) for $10 with no power supply.=A0 Unfortunately, not a single = power supply in the Box-O-Power will work so I have no idea if it'll ev= en power up.=A0
That was worth all the crap my wife buys and fills the house wit= h. :)

--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimo= n
--bcaec548a92b72e82c04a5205d10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 15:21:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48E8B183473; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IMKZcvlR3biS9g7U5V+49tdC8xgtiEqW9UhEr3ro8z0=; b=ufgPSIhWvQp/FgOnswutYFqFtYhLfEDjyYwVYAWbusTzqkrtI0NB+cf2HjmFIOlVCE 1BqEP2m3tySXJzOf/Jahfed98boxMqBLmYQfFTMqF7g+yo5y5Gbgb9dWASgZd1WE4vCJ HGIKVvpR75ONPg8DXQpr/RPVsfEWsbsG09hOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IGfn3hm5V567tdh3VgE/DX0Tbx//2yWEENxh7B0EOp3k7PsYB1J7vV29Zb4Z1CrK8z liHK/gIZS57SkxZjMLy/4PsypqvMiCvcMArDo4QFzOXObm/x5WhsCnhSy6wuP5TAbBSa osurhJ8B6zsTwMo8jClgjutxZvll+sivPDMLs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:21:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT in need of a manual for a Korg O5R/W From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be6462203bc04a520c57d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3868 Lines: 98 --0015174be6462203bc04a520c57d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks! Someone else also sent me that link. I can't believe I didnt' find that. I'm usually so good at finding this stuff. Pretty nice little unit. I plugged it in last night and it's got quite a few rather nice patches. Now, I just have to figure out how to program the bugger. :) Thanks again, On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Try this link: > http://www.korg.de/uploads/tx_softwarecenter/KORG_05RW_Handbuch_ENG.pdf > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Tony K wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Picked up some great deals at a yard sale this weekend. One was a Korg >> O5R/W synth module. Unfortunatetly, I can't find a manual online anywhere. >> Found some links but they are all dead. Would anybody happen to have a >> softcopy of one? >> >> To keep it on topic, I also picked up a Digitech Jamman (first style) for >> $10 with no power supply. Unfortunately, not a single power supply in the >> Box-O-Power will work so I have no idea if it'll even power up. >> That was worth all the crap my wife buys and fills the house with. :) >> >> -- >> -==-=-=- >> Tony >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174be6462203bc04a520c57d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks!=A0 Someone else also sent me that link.=A0 I can't believe= I didnt' find that.=A0 I'm usually so good at finding this stuff.= =A0
=A0
Pretty nice little unit.=A0 I plugged it in la= st night and it's got quite a few rather nice patches.=A0 Now,=A0I just= have to figure out how to program the bugger. :)
=A0
Thanks again,

On= Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
Try this link:
http://www.korg.de/uploads/tx_= softwarecenter/KORG_05RW_Handbuch_ENG.pdf


On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Tony K = <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
=A0
Picked up= some great deals at a yard sale this weekend.=A0 One was a Korg O5R/W synt= h module.=A0 Unfortunatetly, I can't find a manual online anywhere.=A0 = Found some links but they are all dead.=A0 Would anybody happen to have a s= oftcopy of one?
=A0
To keep it on topic, I also picked up a Digitech Jamman = (first style) for $10 with no power supply.=A0 Unfortunately, not a single = power supply in the Box-O-Power will work so I have no idea if it'll ev= en power up.=A0
That was worth all the crap my wife buys and fills the house wit= h. :)

--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon



--
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--0015174be6462203bc04a520c57d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 19:47:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DD81183463; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Pnx0h2PLZwQwkeTNIMfMxTrJNSE/EnlSUT2mMvhgoFI=; b=R0+ebNfzKkG0AaO4V7qWccPea8w/0jvasdd9TTtaBBTp8hI+o9GRPj+af1It2Z/hF9 y8VsGm0L1YPK1z398QzKR4jBZMFtpvJapckB8zkk1N75zqzdUB7zZNishOu2ixhLgSXN Wzjz4jz4NHJNLeBsvg9F5yEz4YFmi+L169Ahs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LCYLJBWrBrr7syIadiuTGyRWoCJW1rNMkNbGY4OCzIsE/X1R9xcAdzXX2TuFMJWeRJ o2dRslLbBTA76Wq6W9HM92aCM0NB99MRQvU2QxTDjdw8JBupEyDZqrCpLEGAjeFCuEld v6csBERs0rcc2S+u1FRqKZmBleBq4nAd4f+M8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CE5B9E9-B2CB-499B-B437-F46E7314A4DC@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 22:47:05 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Short video clips of some Bass Loopin' covers From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325575a9a0b11a704a5247cb2 Resent-Message-ID: <4hJL2D.A.i-C.7Ao7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 889 Lines: 31 --000325575a9a0b11a704a5247cb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great ! 2011/6/5 ^|>^m > WOW. f***ing incredible. you rock! > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --000325575a9a0b11a704a5247cb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great !

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--000325575a9a0b11a704a5247cb2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 7 21:27:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2, HELO_NO_DOMAIN,HTML_MESSAGE,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3083C183463; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 21:27:32 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2d18b7eb-4203-42ef-8ce0-8c6f4d81b938_" X-Originating-IP: [192.158.61.140] From: Donald Lindemann To: Subject: Live Looping from St.Paul - Minneapolis, MN- new to Loopers Delight Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:22:30 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net>,,<20110607141738.54180@gmx.net>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2011 21:22:31.0005 (UTC) FILETIME=[026F08D0:01CC2559] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1903 Lines: 68 --_2d18b7eb-4203-42ef-8ce0-8c6f4d81b938_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Folks... =20 I have been lurking for a couple weeks behind the scenes trying to keep up = with all the posts and learning what I can. I would be real interested to = know if any of you are from the twin cities area. Just started doing some l= ive looping a few months ago and trying to put some sounds together similar= to Reggie Watts and Dub FX. =20 I would love to meet up with others in the twin cities or general area of M= innesota or Wisconsin to swap some ideas. =20 its okay to contact me directly if this is outside the interest of the gene= ral group. =20 Souuperman@hotmail.com =20 Thanks=20 =20 SOUP! = --_2d18b7eb-4203-42ef-8ce0-8c6f4d81b938_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Folks...
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I have been lurking for a couple weeks behind the scenes trying to keep up = with all the posts and learning what I can.  =3BI would be real interes= ted to know if any of you are from the twin cities area. Just started doing= some live looping a few months ago and trying to put some sounds together = similar to Reggie Watts and Dub FX.
 =3B
I would love to meet up with others in the twin cities or general area of M= innesota or Wisconsin to swap some ideas.
 =3B
its okay to contact me directly if this is outside the interest of the gene= ral group.
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Souuperman@hotmail.com
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Thanks
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SOUP!
= --_2d18b7eb-4203-42ef-8ce0-8c6f4d81b938_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 04:11:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F077E183466; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 04:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ITsQ9ydv65pqG+lmk70TNQnVYZ1wR3ugtRHtuSOgWoc=; b=b974dxVTsgdn6Cgp1X+JfT3oA4CKfpmHFTMwi8mmeUVG7x0FpGzSZ9gsP4y+oR4CKf uux73qZ0jIL5A/gOn8dfLKlDNe3eFqiGkiSx/pMQIP8rgat+KmBXtaxpKw+RvBhjBEFk UnVrcdjq6QPtte+a3dQu7vdNzLmYgnloHf73Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TiJSWst8q64PX8ur6b9WpHsshzTfGxHota2+H1+QCJS01EDlP0bhJylJ4leD3HIbad 6IuvE0KR4Z3/WjV9JxX59csXv9x7lGooK7CgGaTRGkgvhpOPp5jHTM23das7qb3L73lG qA3xPZ+zhKaezJYyv5bjJ3noPCAwHyQ07RYOQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 06:11:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: the Rezobro guitar From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 04:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 300 Lines: 12 ive been waiting for the right blues dobro national steel guitar to come out,one that isnt so limited and doesnt have the amplification issues this is really exciting i think me want it!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?a=&feature=youtu.be&hl=en&v=QCbAjkYIyys&gl=US cheers Luis www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 07:18:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 112CB183466; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Uz6IttVNVXWvIsGxD8QCyir7E3O1AdReAHhK3mcfc/M=; b=F6WdAUhHTYNpql2WO/dDmyJqW6RD7pZjA/qcDX17Ow9FJ5ucGYgH5Vk48YzCleerL5 0lGxz/HdCa7M2Mda8Z2nFgsOFPq9wZmXKyNipv7wBx0K08n/Gahr7dMlJnFR/L46HPaZ /cOBJVCX/vQR//x7kUULiFqTtyY4JuwSjoh98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xbGLv9MMoWZul1fRhOSxEJiffkJKfsB7M56dseshilAqk2UqJhnpN16BygOGZTmDGN jrzQOWLQk7nqjJne0xIVoPR8QHMcx4eUbyY37iH4KdGUSj08svtOxxKfrCZnDTVI9C1n kMq7bkd8YV4asJJYGTvCbTmkfH6lp2YuIRAQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 00:18:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Another new video From: Jason Finnern To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c173666be2204a52e23df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 556 Lines: 22 --0015174c173666be2204a52e23df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hope you like it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yv0LLYhqbA Thanks, Jason --0015174c173666be2204a52e23df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0015174c173666be2204a52e23df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 08:03:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19EE3183465; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 10:02:56 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110608080256.259500@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/g3zxpTwDgNw+Xb09FsDr43Mt0yv+B/Hrfwrt5wg gY2DUrU0NoiGvx6cY89qhefskZ91ZgCNttpA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: /1mOKTcEa0A7QMh0jjAznUc/Njh6dM70 Resent-Message-ID: <2m20AD.A.78D.zyy7NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 606 Lines: 15 Hi Per > Having used a LV1 for six > years I think the buttons are perfect. You can access all buttons by > any finger without the need to move the hand much, very fast. Good to hear that. :) > Have been thinking of moving back to my corresponding setup > in Bidule Well, this thought has been going on for a while? ;-) I can understand the feeling. I've been thinking about Mac vs Win(=Bidule) everytime there is a new hardware purchase decision... all the best Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 09:06:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7322E83BE3; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 89392.49269.bm@omp1027.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307523982; bh=bAKMWenoH2/6M3f6i1OTkNSX14zPket7XJ2a2fvD7eE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F6Iqu+pfAYQTGSjUGUup4bZhwXOA+j1bMnDJBZ4m3e7Kru14e4C+eC5wQiOd9xMY2ZqM2q/moJ36XJ4AmCywQEeflDyitRjI37dC0ykaoUwvWhjyfJ6Uqs+npfeTiT3h4UYpo+YvOEYe9Rl/NvlDKQnFcZROBvYS9nApdz9hKrc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wYYtCt++AtbOVhb7mW9au80wQjpFwzDcr8zCPu4k+DsX/t+o275sx2a9b0kqrY6bT1kI/N0LrbtuomIhPUZuYjOQHpixdXZ9j6MawhDsm5pWajVyCiRem8yODs7cexoJB5I7TGGVjAoEZBgWyYtuPOZuqA3cuA6SoJghsmOmVL8=; Message-ID: <660237.48230.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Kp9pqccVM1kquh7qlZ6pyTlIUfTEuIfMy1SDtmhOKYf76cH HYnHUfybOIF1PmCTxhk1MQQ7EYCejHySIeGY0iaTPAy7LQgcTTSSmvCTvSCj rIMNbA8WHaYQyMieAB3.RCepsvRMWBh0AebbtlWipiI7kSAHw3yPVWuAk5By .sv2D_T2OJU9ofy0fFJE1l0gHZi8.qqbJSsBNaD2PXKTSiVhfOXI29T1UZJP SNby7VIw5fpOno0YvbOTdG1nkIU9yCHlKcVJvLUOifQpa.eM9f8rN6xM9gSA Kj0ByYmU7WRHO5hUEgT8L_CuHzLuD1VWxPTKeV4UyVLtDtidOQbC0QCAlVeG WcL6Nk.XzaX4GEswyZgTv0tCsf0YsywHNUqkTeuqiK_IIZx05RDN.OE.S5oW AuFbiPJrIOncpqNQiDgfnWm5.FCDUoT05NTKSRY9xJL4lmqQ5bCi0w1iAaPA ggQPzuT0K1qdR4ACYw4fH7awlhBbcc8cE6YlpkCEaidVikq2_7uNapKx_D6S 431wEQKXm1Li.eAe.2qJAHgTLQByv7x8UfaNW5GAWcmr6Z7TCML9jVRY5frM GDTtYRT9P6FUzNbvvZnhofPlVPEN_jy3bVYyFW.H00e2bocZRZcxN7Z330ta CtyI_UFjcbvNMAgjhEET0uSUZaMLMcViw_YBxyNVBHk4x1QVko344dKz2LlE m6Lq9TnoQcRO5MOOCTmZaceA- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 02:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Live Looping from St.Paul - Minneapolis, MN- new to Loopers Delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1750792638-1307523982=:48230" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4758 Lines: 91 --0-1750792638-1307523982=:48230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I loop mostly south of you in Des Moines....but work'n on snaging some MN g= igs....sometimes I make it over to Prairie du Chien , WI ...but they tend t= o be technophobes over there..lol Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 =A0http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Donald Lindemann wrote: From: Donald Lindemann Subject: Live Looping from St.Paul - Minneapolis, MN- new to Loopers Deligh= t To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:22 PM =0A=0A=0A Hey Folks... =0A=A0 =0AI have been lurking for a couple weeks behind the scenes trying to keep = up with all the posts and learning what I can. =A0I would be real intereste= d to know if any of you are from the twin cities area. Just started doing s= ome live looping a few months ago and trying to put some sounds together si= milar to Reggie Watts and Dub FX. =0A=A0 =0AI would love to meet up with others in the twin cities or general area o= f Minnesota or Wisconsin to swap some ideas. =0A=A0 =0Aits okay to contact me directly if this is outside the interest of the g= eneral group. =0A=A0 =0ASouuperman@hotmail.com =0A=A0 =0AThanks=20 =0A=A0 =0ASOUP! =09=09 =09 =09=09 =0A --0-1750792638-1307523982=:48230 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I loop mostly south of you in Des Moines....b= ut work'n on snaging some MN gigs....sometimes I make it over to Prairie du= Chien , WI ...but they tend to be technophobes over there..lol

Kyle= Dean Patten
P.O= . Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131      = ;      

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs
=  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc
http://www.= cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatt= en       

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Donald Lindemann <souuperman@hotmail.com> wr= ote:

From: Donald Lindemann <souuperman@= hotmail.com>
Subject: Live Looping from St.Paul - Minneapolis, MN- ne= w to Loopers Delight
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tu= esday, June 7, 2011, 4:22 PM

=0A=0A=0A
Hey Folks...
=0A 
=0AI have been= lurking for a couple weeks behind the scenes trying to keep up with all th= e posts and learning what I can.  I would be real interested to know i= f any of you are from the twin cities area. Just started doing some live lo= oping a few months ago and trying to put some sounds together similar to Re= ggie Watts and Dub FX.
=0A 
=0AI would love to meet up with othe= rs in the twin cities or general area of Minnesota or Wisconsin to swap som= e ideas.
=0A 
=0Aits okay to contact me directly if this is outs= ide the interest of the general group.
=0A 
=0ASouuperman@hotmail.com
=0A = ;
=0AThanks
=0A 
=0ASOUP!
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--0-1750792638-1307523982=:48230-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 09:42:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BE02183475; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z+EE9rATcPQitynV7tqeu6/zS4sXfZAc/4apD9tigl0=; b=nO2W03hjgK3uuq+st9CKXYXqoy5FNZ8uuXNNMjTVoChYEfQYUDIUfSIY9EYmNRo+5w tQdoymLXlFoAys/7C25FY5GkbI5UD+Ycfocvhtm5o1H2Nj5a+Z7SAyK5smZkYmsHFCYx pHv/cX2b1YPwPvQdL3p0PersO5yR6hP2jQcgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ajPf4t313ks1+86P6a/8OvI6tCr8uNmWXUkQCS3pARhOwrGfg9xSeBy15fTKB4uaYq 6Tmhd0YEkbQLEalBlIoC9oIkBQSy5NrqLwsr6y31MekfEJs0akJgw+eXhkpxwPcGdoG7 HddEkr9t7W0SRWZsc/K1byJNMn/0fbPaKaGl8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110608080256.259500@gmx.net> References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> <20110608080256.259500@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:42:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 654 Lines: 12 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I've been thinking about Mac vs Win(=Bidule) everytime there is a new hardware purchase decision... There are many Bidule users that run Bidule under Mac as well. I think that the issues I've had with Bidule might not be Mac related but have do do with the fact that I do so much "morphing": i.e. assigning one external CC# to target many parameters in many plugins and by local scaling in Bidule. This kind of "morphing control" also used to make earlier versions of Mainstage crash. The fact that Mainstage now handles it ok is another reason I'm sticking with that host appl Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 09:43:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Level: ******* X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=7.8 required=5.0 tests=HELO_NO_DOMAIN,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT,RCVD_IN_PBL,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Report: * 3.6 RCVD_IN_PBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus PBL * [87.4.117.1 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] * 0.0 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address * [87.4.117.1 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] * 1.3 RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL RBL: Relay in RNBL, * https://senderscore.org/blacklistlookup/ * [87.4.117.1 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] * 1.6 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT * [87.4.117.1 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS * 0.0 HELO_NO_DOMAIN Relay reports its domain incorrectly X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6BAB18349C; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1306ea2265d.ligeti@alice.it> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:42:58 +0200 (CEST) From: "ligeti@alice.it" Reply-To: "ligeti@alice.it" To: Subject: R: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12026_11535270.1307526178434" X-Originating-IP: 87.4.117.1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1365 Lines: 26 ------=_Part_12026_11535270.1307526178434 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>from: perboysen@gmail.com ... Have been thinking of moving back to my corresponding setup in Bidule but right now MS sounds so much better for what I'm doing... Hi Per, you mean that the sound in MainStage is more "respected" compared to Bidule? I'm new on loop with software, but it seems to me to notice that with moebius standalone I have a better sound than with moebius as bidule's VST. I'll try to make with MS what I'm doing with bidule (hope they let me do the same things...) Matteo (sorry for my english...) ------=_Part_12026_11535270.1307526178434 Content-Type: text/html;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>from: perboysen@gmail.com
... Have been thinking of moving back to my corresponding setup in Bidule but right now MS sounds so much better for what I'm doing...

Hi Per,
you mean that the sound in MainStage is more "respected" compared to Bidule?
I'm new on loop with software, but it seems to me to notice that with moebius standalone I have a better sound than with moebius as bidule's VST.
I'll try to make with MS what I'm doing with bidule (hope they let me do the same things...)

Matteo
(sorry for my english...)

------=_Part_12026_11535270.1307526178434-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 11:46:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Level: ****** X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2, HELO_NO_DOMAIN,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Report: * 3.6 RCVD_IN_PBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus PBL * [173.132.170.50 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] * 1.2 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 hotmail.com 'From' address, but no 'Received:' * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS * 0.0 HELO_NO_DOMAIN Relay reports its domain incorrectly X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE75D18348A; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:46:21 UTC X-Originating-IP: [173.132.170.50] X-Originating-Email: [souuperman@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:41:12 -0400 From: Don Lindemann To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Reply-To: "Don Lindemann" Subject: Re: Live Looping from St.Paul - Minneapolis, MN- new to Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <660237.48230.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Palm webOS v1.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Alternative__boundary__1307533277620" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2011 11:41:18.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB5B1F20:01CC25D0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5555 Lines: 141 --Alternative__boundary__1307533277620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey.. Let me know when. You have a weekend gig anywhere in Mn or Wi.. I wil= l stop in to see u Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint On Jun 8, 2011 5:06 AM, K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:=20 I loop mostly south of you in Des Moines....but work'n on snaging some MN= gigs....sometimes I make it over to Prairie du Chien , WI ...but they tend= to be technophobes over there..lol Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131      &nb= sp;     =20  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs http://www.youtube= =2Ecom/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten  http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyl= edeanpatten        --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Donald Lindemann <souuperman@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Donald Lindemann <souuperman@hotmail.com> Subject: Live Looping from St.Paul - Minneapolis, MN- new to Loopers Delight To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:22 PM Hey Folks...   I have been lurking for a couple weeks behind the scenes trying to keep up= with all the posts and learning what I can.  I would be real interest= ed to know if any of you are from the twin cities area. Just started doing= some live looping a few months ago and trying to put some sounds together= similar to Reggie Watts and Dub FX.   I would love to meet up with others in the twin cities or general area of= Minnesota or Wisconsin to swap some ideas.   its okay to contact me directly if this is outside the interest of the gene= ral group.   Souuperman@hotmail.com   Thanks=20   SOUP! =20 --Alternative__boundary__1307533277620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey.. Let me know when. You have a weekend gig anywhere in Mn or Wi.. I wil= l stop in to see u



Sent from my Palm Pre on= the Now Network from Sprint

On Jun 8, 2011 5:06 AM, K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:
I loop mostly south of you in Des= Moines....but work'n on snaging some MN gigs....sometimes I make it over= to Prairie du Chien , WI ...but they tend to be technophobes over there..l= ol

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131   &nb= sp;        

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5= bs
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatt= en       

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Donald Lindemann <souuperman@hotmail.com> wr= ote:

From: Donald Lindemann <souuperman@= hotmail.com>
Subject: Live Looping from St.Paul - Minneapolis, MN- ne= w to Loopers Delight
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tu= esday, June 7, 2011, 4:22 PM


Hey Folks...
 
I have been lurking for a couple weeks behind the scenes trying to keep up= with all the posts and learning what I can.  I would be real interest= ed to know if any of you are from the twin cities area. Just started doing= some live looping a few months ago and trying to put some sounds together= similar to Reggie Watts and Dub FX.
 
I would love to meet up with others in the twin cities or general area of= Minnesota or Wisconsin to swap some ideas.
 
its okay to contact me directly if this is outside the interest of the gene= ral group.
 
Souuperman@hotmail.co= m
 
Thanks
 
SOUP!
=20
--Alternative__boundary__1307533277620-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 19:14:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D291183473; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :x-priority:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=m89FtfkVIYdrzRvlF7vDrqaFRcP59kYx5UWBiLKqgEk=; b=gnoaFrIkgseN1Ye3tc9Moh4CwC9jVLoSG98PvRNiTlVsAwNI6CkkMrQUWX0FR5LVM9 Ssb9lcgaP/wFkl0odW5koTXVEJe7GE6uHhn/1ld7zEZyqUL0krFxMJLrCN0QcwRp89Uy UVDtqukNb/OQVX1GaulbChApdNcdqPkVOgyfU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=njh0cvh0jdT6Ckgt+7ochOgJ8snTF7y3c2/NFPxzlg8EWNgkzcna8TzXRw6wWtKn7M NKb2yOqKGT9c0l3BFSiymEAyX3/05oB9dyIkYNAMWfcEEOz0aVOzrZH65uJHbq1F6ctf 4GD8n7JPom8iZ8CiOoVtn/BdTXfLjjB8oulOM= Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Todd Matthews X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 15:14:12 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6BAA303D-1FC3-4A07-9152-4362DDF38E46@gmail.com> References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 773 Lines: 32 Just in case you guys haven't already seen this looks like Livid's = answer to the best of both worlds. Touchscreen and tactile. = http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/05/control-with-room-to-grow-livid-adds= -expansion-jacks-ipad-meets-tangible-controls/ On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks >=20 > just checked the new Faderfox LV3 (on web): > http://www.faderfox.de/ >=20 > It's just so perfect: 8 faders, USB (no power/midi necessary), = Ableton-support (if you like)... >=20 > Looks really great imo... >=20 > Best=20 > Buzap >=20 > --=20 > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 8 19:15:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FRT_TODAY2,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_RELAYS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C06118348A; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Smnjzp0LEVR+DCy7ygdeJchgYFHw9nKFh/MqBOM9+fg=; b=D/YseP4ARzvMBNmUWwWUQ7GQv0OL4TtClOjEvVTKZJgz2W0ls/CCdOJC6tbLym3Yh6 q5VJvkPtta1LrM6Bvd0GoNYrnud+k1xHnqIT6BVi/csPLWXG/HkAKACn8m3Dv618CT8/ AStzwhfLJ1+TCB+ABPBVKkoqb9qyfyD1K+uAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ScFKGRq9m7rWm6+X+OqXBORSMu051REoI8bIGOWqhKn9AnbA0K6kxUBCsx4qW3bdPH MM8idDb/jE404uBTzDy2tKsYUrwSDGD9pSY9ft8Gpk2rE4jPbxU9CWYJOHZxJO6deSqX VRa4jiwiPl8trMDLN6pR8mYgqGoZ0rSbzIPL4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6BAA303D-1FC3-4A07-9152-4362DDF38E46@gmail.com> References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <6BAA303D-1FC3-4A07-9152-4362DDF38E46@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 15:15:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174791b8d0249304a5382948 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5150 Lines: 146 --0015174791b8d0249304a5382948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes... Livid simply rocks. this is fantastic. On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Just in case you guys haven't already seen this looks like Livid's answer > to the best of both worlds. Touchscreen and tactile. > > > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/05/control-with-room-to-grow-livid-add= s-expansion-jacks-ipad-meets-tangible-controls/ > > > On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > > Hi folks > > > > just checked the new Faderfox LV3 (on web): > > http://www.faderfox.de/ > > > > It's just so perfect: 8 faders, USB (no power/midi necessary), > Ableton-support (if you like)... > > > > Looks really great imo... > > > > Best > > Buzap > > > > -- > > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > > > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174791b8d0249304a5382948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes... Livid simply rocks. =A0this is fantastic. =A0

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
Just in case you guys haven't already s= een this looks like Livid's answer to the best of both worlds. Touchscr= een and tactile.

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/05/control-with-room-to-grow-livid-adds= -expansion-jacks-ipad-meets-tangible-controls/


On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> just checked the new Faderfox LV3 (on web):
> http://www.fader= fox.de/
>
> It's just so perfect: 8 faders, USB (no power/midi necessary), Abl= eton-support (if you like)...
>
> Looks really great imo...
>
> Best
> Buzap
>
> --
> Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir
> belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de
>

--------------------
Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015174791b8d0249304a5382948-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 01:17:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F404B83BE3; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 01:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4C1C7BA4-3ACB-4349-A5E7-019D1CC4C767@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-710050108 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: the Rezobro guitar Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:17:28 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa02b; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:17:28 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: <8x7aND.A.FqB.s8B8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 01:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 7878 Lines: 142 --Apple-Mail-4-710050108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like those tuners. I've impaled myself so many times it is a wonder I don't have tetanus. On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > ive been waiting for the right blues dobro national steel guitar to > come out,one that isnt so limited and doesnt have the amplification > issues > this is really exciting i think me want it!! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?a=&feature=youtu.be&hl=en&v=QCbAjkYIyys&gl=US Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-4-710050108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like those tuners. I've = impaled myself so many times it is a wonder I don't have = tetanus.
On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Louie Angulo = wrote:

ive been waiting for the right blues dobro national = steel guitar to
come out,one that isnt so limited and doesnt have the = amplification
issues
this is really exciting  i think me want = it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?a=3D&= feature=3Dyoutu.be&hl=3Den&v=3DQCbAjkYIyys&gl=3DUS


On = Jun 9, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

You = have one there noe? I"ve heard it should be quite 'advanced'.
Looking = forward to more hands-on reports on the vox

On Thursday, June 9, = 2011, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> = wrote:
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
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toddbass.com
twitter: = gtodd876

= --Apple-Mail-4-710050108-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 04:37:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C594183475; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 04:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ElM9itEhcGWeQb1Csf5/OOLVAvHLL+cRp3zDGXchItc=; b=s6o9myOKrcXgPWpSY3d0h/euPWvXPYy1eHRjwMjL0T6yyhO5aKVV/BxyuBZLZWU4t5 9+ig5/jS/1aCwevP1TEaBSY8I+XiXNxRcOfpiOmr4mz9ZLwO3fMe/BmvUJF9nNkQNRHO 8JstO4Xkbc/p6utC68hf1aWADq3GjzKgIvoms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=dot8YzEmnj34IGyxjYdLUA7aVavq8u83bfn8jJ3470kwPqD+21j96apHC4DVgR9Fwt UFNpnZ2/uI1nv8rGmHKAFwqWGm9r1o5sH2jpF3QNRgrFU/Xm8Sc36APOaYYTtj+k4u1j a8vSiOfJKFU7N/piddulhl+j69tDheAS760h4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:37:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: For you software folks....what interface? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4cb145be0a304a54001ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 04:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 789 Lines: 18 --000e0cd4cb145be0a304a54001ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound quality. If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them price-wise? --000e0cd4cb145be0a304a54001ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound quality.

If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q

Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them price-wise?
--000e0cd4cb145be0a304a54001ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 05:44:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B48EA183475; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/RHExPa7nfzN0xzk2ngGAi0bUdgzZpj6Vf5x2p8PgUQ=; b=W06o5loCKZT72RJIB+xW/FaqOnX11RRI5rgqhpqkPB7njGF0ciEzYo3ubY6Lgwhy7r ngd6IgarqoIDkin0s4nwj8SgMC2oDjoIkH6N76Xw0ESTrSrTsulEUyPOrswRbby93q4y w2Br3DWLNiE0ihNFq55WZ6WB22wSFuvZXs7ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oOhgeyG03hIfzN009DipPcuiNY1ZNsokkDna335atFYds7aX5JBh9ga8IssYcUGQrV tvPsFYM+adWtYFCPaQ2lgECBPwEHZyYetWpZBzafZtMQ5N7jg0b8VWzWQlrAH5Nk9GdV ICtQcIqnLfpoJYVKutWw4Tshs+ZB/I+jiAqAY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 01:44:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 356 Lines: 8 rme On Thursday, June 9, 2011, marcus kirby wrote: > I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound quality. > If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q > > Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them price-wise? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 06:05:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD38D183489; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MaNQa1ehxAUS24/KjRv2BOhH5RXGZutyvWTKKyJqtGA=; b=b+3c3p2g0A+k+SdxXjLd+VDmbfQdQSHTfF+Kk8cLkG0oWXXo4QOS7lmX/mW4ZYrwsV MKdkXB7MYCB9OoutB7nFGxXTR50qeJAQbWJ/vCSy5XMILLB2IuwJ5SgrOMEL/urI9uxU 1oMaoP2U82P+mEhtS92XFoj24ZDgt1DhECfKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HoBNLTiCoUkUMbzSRMSPei7ybwn3XYbXBi1BrFE0xtvb1JXbo55gD+u4wfF58h2DvK 6nC65WJ/n72/dssbYhsOXDlaE2SP+oSkiTTZe5VF0BN7QKatuY5XST4CTFrvGaw5PBZM YIWwpJa5rxzsa90ZLhVcgvkQO/C5wcil3QQcQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:05:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-W1vSD.A.fUE.FLG8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 550 Lines: 21 +1 On Thursday, June 9, 2011, james fowler wrote: > rme > > On Thursday, June 9, 2011, marcus kirby wrote: >> I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound quality. >> If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q >> >> Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them price-wise? >> > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 06:11:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EB5F183489; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 232322.27241.bm@omp1034.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307599885; bh=K/3zB4cc2w2TdxfdLyb8Lky1GQQ3rd0xQROyNaRuRvE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F8F/RLO3FHNa7aI2S0PNTeakTflk5URV2H5Ld9ATDopEemF1h7EFztEMu0h2PWRLeUOMZRoc0MLjQZnQOy/FpKL7HKRFefnoSY9QVId/M9mszZuDXNwzzkEG+EXYt7H+jfSyaG/uDxxpvO9StBbqjGMbqoN63JqK96y2mEA/FMc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BfihGQmTsSlZOY57T15HdvAyXxifJkiqPg7ZFSgxcGd8iWjNfrD+Wpaoi441FeBRy56bJiwABwvBYTnDozmlsw7BVBqU+LpaYshbVOwKkDF5x8S+lNHAyPywM4gP05e1FiAv4WtTIr95YUpNrh7MWQXpr3j7ZL521Kg8nNS0QmQ=; Message-ID: <133811.85124.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hbrYtDsVM1kVqWDpxWRM1MIdzKzl_1UUREn4rloOQwXMKFf xpOm1VCdtOnxHmf777MVrViDxW5XeDGO8dWJx3Hz29MiZqeCwOKFdKmemXL9 Nbvj1E0ZUk7d_ud1zcsku7z50fp_0g1W9QayALBc6oCxuGvVXBHRlMt_hkUC 1lH60yW2Nrkg1G8Uptjz_5zxi6DNwnmKe1BiJbIFQXAO015tIH7e4z13BLRK 7evYOsdlgELIEwbZ43sOyazaoCdbJ9rzAxhFijMCckNjBHUy3afauxDEfUNp vfxhaAsZuCMNfY.p5I8UQFMVZvsQFrXped5KnqyIRCwR0RkDPeR9F4YLofHL vrz_JuoZDzfUK5AaPDZBRLL186K8TiActBDQ4oGj.LhRSmqndb7IKwv5xYWO E8cvtNg1h6HXRr8va5SFiI3_8AKRUa5OfVOcpoPYm2rOXAw09UmcZA9gywlX aTgCPZSQrrSvG.Mhes7oms6v0SoOd49Ly1qqyViKltOXRXQKmvxJgFc7nPCX bm19x2f9F8f_aXAEoe1dS.N4Li8wiDQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:11:25 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-510837114-1307599885=:85124" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2880 Lines: 46 --0-510837114-1307599885=:85124 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii RME Rocks ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 8:05:56 AM Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? +1 On Thursday, June 9, 2011, james fowler wrote: > rme > > On Thursday, June 9, 2011, marcus kirby wrote: >> I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound >>quality. >> If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality >>pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q >> >> Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them price-wise? >> > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub --0-510837114-1307599885=:85124 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
RME Rocks

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 8:05:56 AM
Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface?

+1

On Thursday, June 9, 2011, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
> rme
>
> On Thursday, June 9, 2011, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound quality.
>> If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q
>>
>> Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them price-wise?
>>
>
>

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

--0-510837114-1307599885=:85124-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 06:53:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B453183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5n9OVTCW6bsjlanTAfoCHgPzBr4FlarNdxJV9/kxi/w=; b=GhYVcn0GHk1hHE4OR04gLwsN0Q0E72Msjh0M6KuC8gK2KeWtBBi0sIYvt5FhB0c+Vl 7WDIxnvbDcXHjZJCVD+B+ETw/h1dpVaTXXlZJs/zAYMkIZLiqejGJ6NrkdA4t5W9VuVE tPry69fKSZT6O6AVgBPMB3N32kSjTJr2E6a0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cQgNfnjOpkPdDfXuGxsSSk/1vbowENGS0uLWRbK6UxN6XGA9vkkkKZM4RlGPsSC7tz i0bzGUp9Ikrv9CHjzRy25fBDzHEXDpHk0FGPQO3XSHsJ106IfXTO3XwROAovV4NaY/02 lQYUtwsN+HojNsfckIPhlDzDnm7/O+/MTqOhY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 01:53:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: EDP + repeater? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4cb1491f8ae04a541eaab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 888 Lines: 25 --000e0cd4cb1491f8ae04a541eaab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am grabbing another edp tomorrow, but I've been thinking about getting a repeater for re-sampling and sampling of vocals. Possibly: EDP1 and EDP2 for just guitar Repeater for vocals Sequencer -> Bass Synth and Drum machine Does anyone use a mixture of the edp and repeater? --000e0cd4cb1491f8ae04a541eaab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am grabbing another edp tomorrow, but I've been thinking about gettin= g a repeater for re-sampling and sampling of vocals.=A0

= Possibly:
EDP1 and EDP2 for just guitar
Repeater for vo= cals
Sequencer -> Bass Synth and Drum machine

D= oes anyone use a mixture of the edp and repeater?=A0
--000e0cd4cb1491f8ae04a541eaab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 06:55:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF756183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=HaOgImdkL4PKHd97cSz6br1furWq9fYdLf167X2M6ZE=; b=T4aQKj3oxdR6qjTpeSHoLGCZ/QtnakVgQpdcMR6/N+2LLv12yuN3jO3tQNRZWv+t2J +3vdDYARj7ixj3mcEnU7Fgqxrd8kkcO7DoZk8MduFGPp1cIwfUtycdakJgtoPKbDQtBf wtCsXJ/+xthBV+6tIDnGl56fQMjKChrBYOkiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=lPrGJPaC1qH0NPFP/SuZeJs/xTjEEBNTRpZjBi8P5Ln7MzhFBoskIyf/AfP7ZnxpmN 3ZX7IfP/h0WkunreMKud1HXYM61nsY4dA3DqHs0K2mZHebLy8m83ZdjLTS+sMLWYtO0e Wb6+lrwhBfEiD15MsA8ciSLwY6/j9l6r3Ze10= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:55:51 +0200 Message-ID: <-3473260987414375456@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: EDP + repeater? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 432 Lines: 14 Yes! What do you want to know? Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 9 Jun 2011, at 08:53, marcus kirby wrote: > I am grabbing another edp tomorrow, but I've been thinking about getting a repeater for re-sampling and sampling of vocals. > > Possibly: > EDP1 and EDP2 for just guitar > Repeater for vocals > Sequencer -> Bass Synth and Drum machine > > Does anyone use a mixture of the edp and repeater? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 07:00:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41994183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NlmyA9jrbu8Xj6nsD5lHtpR66ayqhqRF8IaEWpldFtM=; b=DuzfhQhgn2FrAvxvHRtJ67Ld0mOk/rG0THlNGpw9p2d7uqR9E8NT4yWSnMyjG1Caws HA0IqmUhYp7uGp+bFHhzt+3enP7nznzXEFWOrZTv0hR2u5tG4jxgF7aVW5co1RpILoQM tgRuHnXTa0DrXXvy4saXFiTj8yphihRLuCkds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lHmcgnDqxGfCy5r4wlw7QWPINL7498advet26rsfsFMVFMKZOI/pGrfqdhoqhAJabN jjr/6jd+3Xe8MVyC8kznCJ28GQxwODwjIGmJl7CgraG9j0PZf7aCk7Vfq2M8ycdaDTRi hGcBWebBVa/UreamnnJe4+k7Dk/WpBq1H51Xg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-3473260987414375456@unknownmsgid> References: <-3473260987414375456@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 02:00:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP + repeater? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd401845c99db04a54201f7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2641 Lines: 66 --000e0cd401845c99db04a54201f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, basically if two edps and a repeater would cover my needs. I would use the repeater for looping vocals, and re-sampling my guitar loops. The repeater has multiple tracks that can be faded in/out, right? Also, how are you controlling it? I was thinking that my hands would be free once I set my guitar loops, and I could just use my hands to mess with things on the repeater. Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters? On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:55 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Yes! What do you want to know? > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 08:53, marcus kirby wrote: > > > I am grabbing another edp tomorrow, but I've been thinking about getting > a repeater for re-sampling and sampling of vocals. > > > > Possibly: > > EDP1 and EDP2 for just guitar > > Repeater for vocals > > Sequencer -> Bass Synth and Drum machine > > > > Does anyone use a mixture of the edp and repeater? > > --000e0cd401845c99db04a54201f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, basically if two edps and a repeater would cover my needs.=A0
I would use the repeater for looping vocals, and re-sampling my= guitar loops. The repeater has multiple tracks that can be faded in/out, r= ight? Also, how are you controlling it? I was thinking that my hands would = be free once I set my guitar loops, and I could just use my hands to mess w= ith things on the repeater. Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameter= s?=A0

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:55 AM, mark francom= be <markfra= ncombe@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes! What do you want to know?

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 9 Jun 2011, at 08:53, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am grabbing another edp tomorrow, but I've been thinking about g= etting a repeater for re-sampling and sampling of vocals.
>
> Possibly:
> EDP1 and EDP2 for just guitar
> Repeater for vocals
> Sequencer -> Bass Synth and Drum machine
>
> Does anyone use a mixture of the edp and repeater?


--000e0cd401845c99db04a54201f7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 07:25:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0CBC183475; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=mryxbTK/OfoGmtlhrCHVNtMDt6LTeqC2IWWvJnCu8e4=; b=QoY7Cmu8B8qeco84Z3utat9xcQ2LjyvJzNrPM90QVw4f1UIvbtrRlfoI5qptQWquAG K0J7oDf3PtK/B4lJIQWpRbwRwoMPolLoMH6QsK66Osm7pfzbhm6crNg/s/B5KXj/5kvP PptqX/SZB+GQn4VVchQS2g3Dcsf5V1VDO8up4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=xKYKMteQnDzZk0MysIodQA14bGIVLEaXfS4jboTIGP3rNrxwDhbgy8yzVn+V5J/WQA DEgW446r2ASHlm3O58R7riVKRxpOTBc1ei02ilGSB71XEBMwf8kNIKu9gNwsYJLrGjgJ wTT6i0fhFiXGPXnp/zEmreWQ8+35qjKFztAZU= Subject: Re: EDP + repeater? References: <-3473260987414375456@unknownmsgid> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:28:30 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 275 Lines: 8 You'd definitely want one if using the latest software, as there are loads o= f cool functions not available from the front panel Sent from my iPod On 9 Jun 2011, at 08:00, marcus kirby wrote: > Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters?=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 07:50:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92ED0183464; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=wcq41vMn03mTKlBvfDUWME80hn4MDHJ3UpOXMFMrNmA=; b=rY1Sztm2f4PXcRWOF0YjaNj7r1dmrUXg6QHuUoouHiU9hp0ZbKj6hyMiBycWPNF6WV pmLq09MPn+TlsRCTTfF4boToLwlcSZhOA9s9VJf1wMoLLfuEO8lCq7COJdKoNLN0O/dW sMQau4mOBtWGC/b932hCCEVzxWj5z2qMAJRxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=k5bR6RCQrxKPzN2w4kZtdT75LYdbgsYIhJ00jcgI1m7YTm/sCnDjygU49f1QcdWd8o CrfVgjzpu3BrzEuZwrJedQco6PMPUuIBth2nHzRqr0EFwHx4h+nu6Kk5hlraFvUlY0CL 4hYeMAwuaujiWM0VF4xXyJQtx1tYDxJtd+jOI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <-3473260987414375456@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:50:38 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rcEVcDNLWa95VDHIxyY6AYigI20 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP + repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8c9caf024204a542b64d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6061 Lines: 124 --90e6ba6e8c9caf024204a542b64d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters? I concur... or by odd press combos that are hard to do with one hand. As long as you clock FROM the edp, and the Repeater is the slave, its pretty rock solid. If you load up a repeater loop that contains audio (drum-loop etc) it will start on your second hit of record on the edp(Unless you cue up a bpm fort on the edp... VERY recommended when using premade loops on repeater...), if the loop is empty, I find its best to hit record on the repeater and make a quick silent loop, then overdub onto it... this you can do easily with NO foot controller. Be aware that changing loops on repeater is a little funky, the preferred method is to change tracks (fade out or mute). Also be aware that repeater only reacts to a relatively small bpm range. so if your 8ths setting on EDP is set weirdly high 64ths or even 32ns, or low.. 2 maybe.. OR you make long loops on the edp master. Repeater might not react. The good news is that its excellent at synching to audio, so just flip it over to beat detect, tap a rough tempo and hit play... I wish more devices would allow you to come out of midi sync temporarily and free wheel for a bit... FYI: My prefered method is to use tracks 3 and 4 for backing tracks, and have them prerecorded. then tracks 1 and 2 are looping tracks. I have track 2 as my re pitching track (I have a few pitches programmed on my FCB to act as a little keyboard - the classic Repeater trick). Track one is usually for my favorite repeater trcik of using it as a pitched delay... short delays that come back at a different pitch... I only wish trim-cut worked on a per track level... or that I could scroll the trim start and ends at the same time... I should try that with a controller... I expect it will crash repeater Im afraid... On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > You'd definitely want one if using the latest software, as there are loads > of cool functions not available from the front panel > > Sent from my iPod > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 08:00, marcus kirby wrote: > > > Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters? > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8c9caf024204a542b64d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters?

I concur... o= r by odd press combos that are hard to do with one hand.

As long as = you clock FROM the edp, and the Repeater is the slave, its pretty rock soli= d. If you load up a repeater loop that contains audio (drum-loop etc) it wi= ll start on your second hit of record on the edp(Unless you cue up a bpm fo= rt on the edp... VERY recommended when using premade loops on repeater...),= if the loop is empty, I find its best to hit record on the repeater and ma= ke a quick silent loop, then overdub onto it... this you can do easily with= NO foot controller. Be aware that changing loops on repeater is a little f= unky, the preferred method is to change tracks (fade out or mute). Also be = aware that repeater only reacts to a relatively small bpm range. so if your= 8ths setting on EDP is set weirdly high 64ths or even 32ns, or low.. 2 may= be.. OR you make long loops on the edp master. Repeater might not react. Th= e good news is that its excellent at synching to audio, so just flip it ove= r to beat detect, tap a rough tempo and hit play...
I wish more devices would allow you to come out of midi sync temporarily an= d free wheel for a bit...

FYI: My prefered method is to use tracks 3= and 4 for backing tracks, and have them prerecorded. then tracks 1 and 2 a= re looping tracks. I have track 2 as my re pitching track (I have a few pit= ches programmed on my FCB to act as a little keyboard - the classic Repeate= r trick). Track one is usually for my favorite repeater trcik of using it a= s a pitched delay... short delays that come back at a different pitch... I = only wish trim-cut worked on a per track level... or that I could scroll th= e trim start and ends at the same time... I should try that with a controll= er... I expect it will crash repeater Im afraid...


On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Simeon H= arris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
You'd definitely want one if using the latest software, as there are lo= ads of cool functions not available from the front panel

Sent from my iPod

On 9 Jun 2011, at 08:00, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters?




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--90e6ba6e8c9caf024204a542b64d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 08:08:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F40C183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:08:05 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <6BAA303D-1FC3-4A07-9152-4362DDF38E46@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20110609080805.76800@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <6BAA303D-1FC3-4A07-9152-4362DDF38E46@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/tN1A1SGbtE9RmILyxNp1bsWupUVI+X8pHMxUDbm hQjg1JLYCDZP7hc9z0UaNs1PAbXJfz4awvDA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: CxKSGUc+bXB+McxpyTU2Rr4iLyUmZQgf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 244 Lines: 10 Thanks Todd but Faderfox LV3 is fitting my needs better: more faders, smaller footprint best regards Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 08:09:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DB4A183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:09:23 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110609080923.76810@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> <20110608080256.259500@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX188YhZcbuU8OpsrmV82IHRNfkxK8/t8XyDIOTIopH FxAvutt55C8iGGx38hqZTQLW94x4n4UKxT+A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: gUnFfHR2bUk7cp8oyWknkvpsZ2hlN0re Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 257 Lines: 10 Per, is the height of the LV* really 7cm? I was hoping it could fit into 1 rack unit height (maybe with joystick bent down?). best regards Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 08:32:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04F6C183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=smPCpFmEG44kHuiqIIuSW5ybyPBjd+mdDqk44c9Ejs0=; b=CuFKUcb0uj8FivLpn02e+kjkCWhisBFYt67MWYl7K1gEEuTrYmHWN6YB+RGzjYDrad oJCmLxODpi4XOiuECeivXW5nTlpZ1sVE/72DIyMQOf3IjTiMylSS9s/IsVWDM3ORYhqr NVm60Dl5pDe7UBU4ZHv7BeKNdsCR+lqyKnGa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Jr76/NDNH5P2T9Ivr+c6fervrQW8L7l54VPz3HFnvP8LQsKzxJBaybffhUeZeTVQqO NbCXFb2wbgXZ7JU+0bsxAW3k7vMwAPfpMJ/wHA7Wql9OUAzYeQBX+WVWmnCyMHggKdrQ zQp9eruVbmK6L7nchdX4RzPWxVQNU5Ak8bzLU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-3473260987414375456@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 03:32:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP + repeater? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd484f857c29804a5434a31 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 7599 Lines: 159 --000e0cd484f857c29804a5434a31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was planning on using a combination of the edp and repeater to work as a multi-tracker of sorts. EDP1: Loop 1, Loop 2 EDP2: Loop 3, Loop 4 Repeater: Track 1 receives processed processed audio from edp1, track 2 receives from edp2. I then have two vocal tracks left to work with - one for vocals, one for beatboxing. The bass synth would be sequenced, so it doesn't need to loop. Same for the drum machine. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:50 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > > Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters? > > I concur... or by odd press combos that are hard to do with one hand. > > As long as you clock FROM the edp, and the Repeater is the slave, its > pretty rock solid. If you load up a repeater loop that contains audio > (drum-loop etc) it will start on your second hit of record on the edp(Unless > you cue up a bpm fort on the edp... VERY recommended when using premade > loops on repeater...), if the loop is empty, I find its best to hit record > on the repeater and make a quick silent loop, then overdub onto it... this > you can do easily with NO foot controller. Be aware that changing loops on > repeater is a little funky, the preferred method is to change tracks (fade > out or mute). Also be aware that repeater only reacts to a relatively small > bpm range. so if your 8ths setting on EDP is set weirdly high 64ths or even > 32ns, or low.. 2 maybe.. OR you make long loops on the edp master. Repeater > might not react. The good news is that its excellent at synching to audio, > so just flip it over to beat detect, tap a rough tempo and hit play... > I wish more devices would allow you to come out of midi sync temporarily > and free wheel for a bit... > > FYI: My prefered method is to use tracks 3 and 4 for backing tracks, and > have them prerecorded. then tracks 1 and 2 are looping tracks. I have track > 2 as my re pitching track (I have a few pitches programmed on my FCB to act > as a little keyboard - the classic Repeater trick). Track one is usually for > my favorite repeater trcik of using it as a pitched delay... short delays > that come back at a different pitch... I only wish trim-cut worked on a per > track level... or that I could scroll the trim start and ends at the same > time... I should try that with a controller... I expect it will crash > repeater Im afraid... > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> You'd definitely want one if using the latest software, as there are loads >> of cool functions not available from the front panel >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On 9 Jun 2011, at 08:00, marcus kirby wrote: >> >> > Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters? >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --000e0cd484f857c29804a5434a31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was planning on using a combination of the edp and repeater to work as a = multi-tracker of sorts.

EDP1: Loop 1, Loop 2
E= DP2: Loop 3, Loop 4
Repeater: Track 1 receives processed processe= d audio from edp1, track 2 receives from edp2. I then have two vocal tracks= left to work with - one for vocals, one for beatboxing.

The bass synth would be sequenced, so it doesn't ne= ed to loop. Same for the drum machine.

On= Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:50 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr= ote:

> Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters?

I concu= r... or by odd press combos that are hard to do with one hand.

As lo= ng as you clock FROM the edp, and the Repeater is the slave, its pretty roc= k solid. If you load up a repeater loop that contains audio (drum-loop etc)= it will start on your second hit of record on the edp(Unless you cue up a = bpm fort on the edp... VERY recommended when using premade loops on repeate= r...), if the loop is empty, I find its best to hit record on the repeater = and make a quick silent loop, then overdub onto it... this you can do easil= y with NO foot controller. Be aware that changing loops on repeater is a li= ttle funky, the preferred method is to change tracks (fade out or mute). Al= so be aware that repeater only reacts to a relatively small bpm range. so i= f your 8ths setting on EDP is set weirdly high 64ths or even 32ns, or low..= 2 maybe.. OR you make long loops on the edp master. Repeater might not rea= ct. The good news is that its excellent at synching to audio, so just flip = it over to beat detect, tap a rough tempo and hit play...
I wish more devices would allow you to come out of midi sync temporarily an= d free wheel for a bit...

FYI: My prefered method is to use tracks 3= and 4 for backing tracks, and have them prerecorded. then tracks 1 and 2 a= re looping tracks. I have track 2 as my re pitching track (I have a few pit= ches programmed on my FCB to act as a little keyboard - the classic Repeate= r trick). Track one is usually for my favorite repeater trcik of using it a= s a pitched delay... short delays that come back at a different pitch... I = only wish trim-cut worked on a per track level... or that I could scroll th= e trim start and ends at the same time... I should try that with a controll= er... I expect it will crash repeater Im afraid...



On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Simeon H= arris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
=
You'd definitely want one if using the latest software, as there are lo= ads of cool functions not available from the front panel

Sent from my iPod

On 9 Jun 2011, at 08:00, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters?




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

--000e0cd484f857c29804a5434a31-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 09:34:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 312BF183475; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nFQkIDnp/db5sUNvGykpwVjOu3ty5Xbwg7yEgrz/5Wk=; b=Wv8ahCgK1LzfMQwvygCIL8KeOn3PpQ5iF9gmHFWxac+q6mIO6ifPiNrpo7PyN+SX2z aY3JVhU3ooNEg93oiHzlfWzzSIXC7DVfivK/9oDpNn/oWhPn8tifXlRomGP6Uq5a3Xro n/QjG7gaq4/2O0c/zZ7bqjjyjUYdWAd15d6W8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=slJ5toEbG/EQRRXoxNnkKo5yes72CQ+Jri/YX57eiDgTR/3bGV73u7uPQJiR6vBuDL 0tsflkJc/bPeJAOV6Os9x7oYaM6esrsewwL8ktqgXQ43qOsh7GssI9X3wZaif3OkQSaW uqFRXUKKpEOfmfha4OYVg4hC84GahX5NQHPpw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110609080923.76810@gmx.net> References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> <20110608080256.259500@gmx.net> <20110609080923.76810@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:34:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <1P5jaC.A.npH.3OJ8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 567 Lines: 24 I think it is smaller. But I"m marking this message until I get back to meassure my LV1. Now I just anywhere with an iphone On Thursday, June 9, 2011, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Per, > > is the height of the LV* really 7cm? I was hoping it could fit into 1 rack unit height (maybe with joystick bent down?). > > best regards > Buzap > > -- > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 09:36:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A40F8183473; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 628149635/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.173/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.173 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMCAC6T8E1YbRWt/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgItxufRIYjBJVpixQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,340,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="628149635" Message-ID: <4DF09423.60008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:36:35 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 221 Lines: 11 Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 anyone got any comments on this? I'm writing a review. andy butler ps and as a preview, I can reveal that it supports polyrhythmic sync between it's two loops.. ...hmm....got your attention? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 09:52:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BDF0183464; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DVRQUZn6nCwz/xWHKXctQZL4lASgRaTYSbkZ2lMW3B0=; b=G1YLEigM5MsAXWLr3g85P4oiTd64VR3pr4LufT8aaLZGKqyPzW5Q5U84ExBp6Rsbsu rrJ3IAjYnKTk/7po9kt3GiJVroV3Bxuaj1WRXXoX43Eb+EGMiJPlFWYR4mKICFtlzLiO xvZXyGDQ1FBaeWswrphRvydR7jPPmyFGD8AeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g791g4ho12IT5zqTaZMZUtOvuPCuCsvSSAiGbROK1skbjDvyQJc8tf6lkLOmDGOY6e JINRDgRZ+h16YQCVjJqI9HhV8cx4kVrbgFwuIY64O08aQMQq2Wa8C8xvLzJVdbGJlmDm 6hPDQuEU7mVRWiiq/F1RVQcXaiOIlt5XoEb+I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF09423.60008@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DF09423.60008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:52:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <3t36NC.A.T_H.zfJ8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 537 Lines: 24 You have one there noe? I"ve heard it should be quite 'advanced'. Looking forward to more hands-on reports on the vox On Thursday, June 9, 2011, andy butler wrote: > Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 > > anyone got any comments on this? I'm writing a review. > > > andy butler > ps > and as a preview, I can reveal that it supports polyrhythmic sync between it's two loops.. > ...hmm....got your attention? > > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 10:30:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BE00183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=VrxvGuIeTrp//aR4/gOoK0um4nZqHF6VkYQQ7V5Mqwk=; b=U5Hl02iiieLFfRgLz5g0b4YID8lJdx/vxpHZDQxK2HxBIGIoYr+f9M+aHhL+NMlEph WnZxJDAwfKxlrK4Q5HBfp30aBpWh5YlXyM9mcHCZakR54+1/gRiDv1ps1ddXosddDSjH +0F+be97np1tKDfgaGzTh7In0BRm3glxitMco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=ezwJE09mjWjdoK0EDiZkhUy9R3NH9fLNq1b2oAhuW/B3ACr9Lk4fuQYVAkhe3dHr1f qXNW3qj4JfVwMOTT/M2evcbJ058NQmqIH+AIUOEF+87iD8Y2yRXS6zCNEX/XaW33qsRQ 9V4sa8sgcche3WuNkhnhOoUbAEP4TN5PGXz6U= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-743243269 Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:30:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DF09423.60008@tiscali.co.uk> Message-Id: <8AA8E7D1-4884-4C57-8757-75B655FEE845@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5770 Lines: 119 --Apple-Mail-2-743243269 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's the first review on Sweetwater: aw man... by DC from LOS ANGELES, CA 91355 June 2, 2011 Music Background: Player of shows. + Does all those crazy loop effect things. - Horrible noise added to signal. - No loop level control. - Feels cheap when you hold it. - Changing loops requires you hold one of the pedals down with your foot = then pivot it 90 degrees. and hit another pedal sideways from it with = your heel. Mind blowing. close [-] On Jun 9, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > You have one there noe? I"ve heard it should be quite 'advanced'. > Looking forward to more hands-on reports on the vox >=20 > On Thursday, June 9, 2011, andy butler wrote: > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-2-743243269 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

aw man...

by DC from LOS ANGELES, CA = 91355
June 2, = 2011
Music Background: Player = of shows.
+ Does all those crazy loop effect things.
- = Horrible noise added to signal.
- No loop level control.
- Feels = cheap when you hold it.
- Changing loops requires you hold one of = the pedals down with your foot then pivot it 90 degrees. and hit another = pedal sideways from it with your heel. Mind blowing. close [-]

= --Apple-Mail-2-743243269-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 11:05:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF1D0183473; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gKlCYwhFL+Jki3a7qjXopMX0ZvGoYFMzUgNLVCx0hgE=; b=AR2dSfvcJ/r2HFnMwG3g0m+Ojv3Q8KpleqU2IGWd2MZiR2bonj4nTbsejTdJOxy+7K Pot+LQsxyPIzjcdL1+GttqaWe1acjkSrNDAFcyhaz5tizVV8HolO8UXXHVSQMaG3fniT xQOIfTtDHFukKjl5Rmr6WzC1pdB51bjsX5O48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VH1q8nMaZDTxt3YalWl/uPoiCODqvyWlKF5gCI2zNSpoCe333RdvJgCIbo9+GCTIXj dQsH8p8oOZ6oP3YsdZZyXweAoAcCoBY8OvJZpUUDHSGaQZm9HKDoI61uVTkeOMpBIrkp HJjqKMaGDUOLAdMs/lZbMTWrkFZ4f2d/TPtdo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8AA8E7D1-4884-4C57-8757-75B655FEE845@gmail.com> References: <4DF09423.60008@tiscali.co.uk> <8AA8E7D1-4884-4C57-8757-75B655FEE845@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:05:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 453 Lines: 14 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > Changing loops requires you hold=C2=A0one of the pedals down with your fo= ot then > pivot it 90 degrees. and hit another pedal sideways from it with your hee= l. > Mind blowing. Evolution goes on. From getting a long with just a little tap dancing we loopists now are required to learn twist dancing. Are we dancing about architecture or do we need new clothes? P ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 11:15:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AFC918349C; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=am2NlPZpTSkyv13KDmpKM/NUm9v73vaOfUKPEIYPK20=; b=dpr5G7Ts9huM66DMU0bU7B3O7GIkgZYow5RcIE3qE4rwY0Hpy/g45jWuKGPNpx/PqV F8BwmTEFWwiOrYi1llAJd17Bul4odkGAqZBiKLayTwbDoccwu5pov2SDRoSAJU7zrQRe IGwOYbpJrpRZLSrlq0yvu+qeRc7zC3R7NrNtI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o5N7m9m2WhfC+hdLAWGnA2k18AN36ULE5UAKJ047JVG1yj72xDJWbg6BODj9IDqPbK JJb84BK8CK0GXRiy9UCZpNDPjWlYC0Q+0cxsSeGSiqpSEjCS8UEKkabs8PdzhLF89QKE IE2RusDTd0oFpLMSsRxEOHSdL3Qco+wOFsiwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> <20110608080256.259500@gmx.net> <20110609080923.76810@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:15:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 748 Lines: 32 I'm back at HQ now. Measuring gives the LV1 is exactly 7 cm high. Per On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I think it is smaller. But I"m marking this message until I get back > to meassure my LV1. Now I just anywhere with an iphone > > On Thursday, June 9, 2011, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> Per, >> >> is the height of the LV* really 7cm? I was hoping it could fit into 1 rack unit height (maybe with joystick bent down?). >> >> best regards >> Buzap >> >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! >> Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >> >> > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 11:54:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6429B183475; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:54:05 UTC Message-id: <0LMI00L8HRLNY6Z2@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 06:53:45 -0400 From: "Richard Rives" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Reply-to: "Richard Rives" Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Palm webOS v1.0.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Alternative__boundary__1307616827957 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1626 Lines: 40 --Alternative__boundary__1307616827957 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RME, Metric Halo, you might want to look at the Sound Devices USBPre2 &= Lynx Studio products. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jun 9, 2011 12:37 AM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:= I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound= quality. If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality pr= e-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them price-wise? --Alternative__boundary__1307616827957 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RME, Metric Halo, you might want to look at the Sound Devices USBPre2 &= Lynx Studio products.

-- Sent from my Palm Pre
On Jun 9, 2011 12:37 AM, marc= us kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm currently using= a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound quality.

If I go down the software route, I need something with very high= quality pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q

Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them= price-wise?
--Alternative__boundary__1307616827957-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 12:23:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D9EB183473; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=dj4U1VdmnRV+mnbwf3DtXdssS2XjVX8N9Di7B14kVT4=; b=dE0kOAw6fX25Mzv4ChfxJIZLicThk32fn/COcWqKVcwC4l1AfmiMNyuwshlo5XCfyS yFvlmxCaaLqiWwz2X2+rIBgYDx9sPyjByT9DeBuGErXWeTCXwsmWkrLaZwa6qb8EvYQV xdfwx4SXZaOShCkapl/ssd0LCVj1Cuu25Z+tg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=ZNUp46nf6E4r3hdqK0VEje20gTTxivd4U5ZiKatGhaN+m7jV9eFBghLbZsiFo/lRpN 54lE9qPGIBQE3sNEIeURkOVx/BSYaSfiancMjCh1lYs1NZijpNidztPXNqHLCG0Ke8xP XUeX+M2LxFY53DK6Rxd3VTLLKzfCWS2NX5MLM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:23:02 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ca0xaroH3vKAlJGt_i3D1kX3R7Q Message-ID: Subject: For you software folks....what interface? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba5bbb1bdbd79a04a54684c2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2038 Lines: 51 --90e6ba5bbb1bdbd79a04a54684c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new soundcard finally. I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new audio interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer too. But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and point to a model, (and price) Mark PS: Anyone wanna buy a TCElectronics fireworx? -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba5bbb1bdbd79a04a54684c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new soun= dcard finally.
I have no money but might be looking to sel= l a few things to get a new audio interface. I have been lusting after the = Motu Traveler as its a mixer too. But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can = you be more specific and point to a model, (and price)

Mark


PS: Anyone wanna buy a TCElectronics fireworx?
-- Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba5bbb1bdbd79a04a54684c2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 12:32:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA8E4183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=douk8uj4uelAvjndCJyrdd+CNlrkFFN7YkrxXzHirho=; b=DeBE2BcvVEr7noaiIoW5H0Ccwwx8GS06hhJ+45mPmCALzoLYUDsKF4Ci6ZpBzaVcC0 HeQfWuNPseBb6lUPnIQIZuDLpaTIbhMoTR+JVUjUtV3VY5A3UY6Ns8GGkhzgNC8u2hNH tY6P603miEObNSakJvERMiiuG+xEW2akx/BeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=RBdB3Hc2Jpmnd+11bI6cEEu4dB3MHqptBAFnwxtArQLldZiKe/l44+ff0kDTjfatuj V7LToPfqBBdvg3EnxhIrXXY96WxO3Je21HgkA7B6IB9CWRp8IB3wHBZlkUOi1NX8+4jC 1vCCAXMcRcQwVYRtAjqF7V8l/14Fxjsv3FmaM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:31:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174764b446673d04a546a40c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3733 Lines: 99 --0015174764b446673d04a546a40c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Congrats on your film scoring job, Mark! the one with which I'm intimately familiar is the FireFace 400. You can find them new usually for $1250 these days. I paid $1450 for mine new a few years ago. I only do Firewire audio, am not exploring USB audio yet. The Fireface 800 or course, uses firewire 800 instead of 400. find them at : http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Fireface800/ http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Fireface400 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:23 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new > soundcard finally. > I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new > audio interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer > too. But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and point > to a model, (and price) > > Mark > > > PS: Anyone wanna buy a TCElectronics fireworx? > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > -- --0015174764b446673d04a546a40c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congrats on your film scoring job, Mark!=A0

the one with= which I'm intimately familiar is the FireFace 400. =A0You can find the= m new usually for $1250 these days. =A0I paid $1450 for mine new a few year= s ago. =A0I only do Firewire audio, am not exploring USB audio yet. =A0The = Fireface 800 or course, uses firewire 800 instead of 400. =A0find them at := =A0


<= /div>



On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 = at 8:23 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new soun= dcard finally.
I have no money but might be looking to sel= l a few things to get a new audio interface. I have been lusting after the = Motu Traveler as its a mixer too. But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can = you be more specific and point to a model, (and price)

Mark


PS: Anyone wanna buy a TCElectronics fireworx?
--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe



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--0015174764b446673d04a546a40c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 12:36:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FFE518349D; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lvZgVcjPlt2SOnDMjy3BUUHIcy5AbxGnBTfcsbHdHRo=; b=Ubz1Y1HbdHk56RcXQG1YkwkYSHd/gwWKreGGaFDklloPDtmlRVFNzPqjCA+NU0uWc/ YD2PPr5pwDMvPxEepXfnU74pAalwRvijci2k0Pk9XOO2CAabpLIFzrVHixkQwmpf+y5A OO/hxtm3h6pKP4u3F1BQTRg0yGe6s/jRYD/Bg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Fq2t8W0G0kASXs4HoBTE9sToCHXJGpdWGO84TVxeW2WMkoaF6MSp60uE04cu+BNz3B In4TdPc2HuEH69dIDGh+yT/lyJrQ2yhoBca7pDOG9ud60rEVie4ui2V9Pz43ceNDM5bi oqNz0NT//2j7BCjFB9Hr4KLrQeOrl9CHKrIEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:36:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1523 Lines: 30 Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) Well, the RME Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics and two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried. It seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right. If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's. Per On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new > soundcard finally. > I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new audio > interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer too. > But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and point to a > model, (and price) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 12:43:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96B0718348A; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sjcTG63pyRNJ3NhcUue+dT9ZBmvzr07Z8pdILM45c7k=; b=jJwom1OscWJ0LdjNEPlMDi/WlKYjvPfa5Hkg9phg18IMGk8F8yDNlvlMo6shtCfEvW fv+tlko/PNda5VCI8DHkAE+gc3fHnP6+qJ9fijEG9YynWEJ+x8s7MzLgNxyjJYwbOz+M 4DzvB9Dd1ioMj8I3M2LxPZQRc2TYhIizty/BA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MIXgR9mALX4SJgypS0NYcixWB9UnW7WGwNgEbnngZlz8uNJEGwmHtMx3jSF9RdQwWU 5zsbdNIqpMIrtknAE+iPjy8zGa+TjI9lhBCpzTJ5kOAdd+lMgkREWczpLislI0fxzwLF 8T6K5xjwsKAwW3KGAc39mdDyG3sh+A1rufazo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:43:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <55zFLC.A.uDD.h_L8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2106 Lines: 49 Just remembered I forgot to say.... I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the RME. Per On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) =C2=A0Well, the RME > Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics and > two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there > are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might > connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The > Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and > significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried. It > seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good > studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you > have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right. > > If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's. > > Per > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe w= rote: >> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new >> soundcard finally. >> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new a= udio >> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer to= o. >> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and point = to a >> model, (and price) >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 12:47:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC8C1183475; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DIaqbhgpn0Owd4wXvOYVwRCKXGu49M7/5pleqzLDecg=; b=JhuYTZBeXRLtAijetqAiwbXJUnWdo9iM6UtU2fydu8q6fpABLogpnKzfKCThSK8iZ+ TWL+0yWiAahf1Ho5OvB1h+VazLyg9mKRimGiHlUlBmtdR4B3y9oJgXEh/swcZGY+6GQQ YmUFjdGoXeROIwcL9K8coPxxu0KfjQVwd5rQ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=wx8cfKH3oBz2R7aNR2hwyOo4F1Kj6kg1Hv4DU4arr7ysgLBh5yPYSBmWZEVq6kJrhD sPoSvZ0c9g1SC6t1PqRbg5SPWEbbnhWlMOkNQO5pnneAwDZLDiSGDuWrX7jJ4Q4oEc7g fzaeQqumqex0UinAI+F8EGzGyLZ2QLX4XMAIc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:46:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1d5846432e04a546da56 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 8015 Lines: 189 --0015174c1d5846432e04a546da56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and to add to Per, whose comments I second, the actual software mixer and independent monitoring abilities, even midi control thereof, are awesome! On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Just remembered I forgot to say.... > I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME > Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but > when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized > that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the > Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the > Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the > RME. > > Per > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) Well, the RME > > Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend > > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics and > > two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line > > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there > > are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might > > connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return > > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The > > Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and > > significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried. It > > seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound > > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good > > studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you > > have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right. > > > > If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME > > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's. > > > > Per > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > >> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new > >> soundcard finally. > >> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new > audio > >> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer > too. > >> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and poin= t > to a > >> model, (and price) > >> > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174c1d5846432e04a546da56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and to add to Per, whose comments I second, =A0the actual software mixer an= d independent monitoring abilities, =A0even midi control thereof, are aweso= me!=A0

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Pe= r Boysen <perbo= ysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Just remembered I forgot to say....
I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME
Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but
when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized
that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the
Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the
Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the RME.

Per



On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) =A0Well, the RME
> Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics a= nd
> two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there=
> are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might=
> connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The
> Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and
> significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried.= It
> seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good=
> studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you
> have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right.=
>
> If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's.
>
> Per
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a= new
>> soundcard finally.
>> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a= new audio
>> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mi= xer too.
>> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and = point to a
>> model, (and price)
>>
>




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015174c1d5846432e04a546da56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 13:01:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67B6F183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fL1JUsVxK5NRlipCMkDkOK0JvaSM6z4EWQ8zIjKrO+8=; b=LJbWFlJsCFx6Vo7Scb71vEFk8+2e+6tf9CIWaYFt+faWsXIqGGhhdRVQwAv3H9D6Hi oKLdkIvnykrv1ON7OOWdlr2ddnyT+MrT/kdYtsaH77SHMkhZEuJpC3lyc2YpAkb6s0lq pvOL9iwPmAvGx4yhZ1KnpN3l1+Hlv0/LMZkxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=q3XAjN+pBijKVcfrXWnbajaDkBLg2AMFLvZLcM8r6i7ZV9yzNgiQcz+q3TSK2QoS2M g38cA3CT47XKO1GFrghZcMZUtSQtkJf0D3YiixR5dSOX60Mw9vLONhnNGGGXIogXOTRw gS7MyoVcQIDvd5wtRXTga3odP0oR7bJ9mVspo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:01:06 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -PMEvrZZxOWdJLfNluP3vtzHhIM Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6143fa00841b04a5470d44 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 13959 Lines: 348 --90e6ba6143fa00841b04a5470d44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per sed: Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) Er.. yes please! Well the problem for me is quite simply... money. I of course want to get a GREAT result here, but I can see 2 ways to rebuil= d my studio. Right now I have a cheap-assed mixer in my rack (Behringer) that is used fo= r live shows and recording the looping set-up. For professional composing jobs, I usually mute everything but 1 channel and record one part at a time= , prob no looping. Quite often I miss out the rack completely and record dry instruments and miked up acoustic instruments using a simple NI Audio Kontrol. So .. stereo IN to my computer only. This CAN DO... but I do want better preamps and recording quality, but could, at a pinch emulate my current working practices at higher quality. But, If I could choose, I would replace the Behringer mixer solution completely and put a new soundcard into the rack that could be used both as a rack mixer and a interface. But that would have to be 16 channel... This is why I was looking at the Motu Traveller.. BUT.. Im not sure if it even has enough inputs for me... I cant decipher the techno-babble.. What does this mean please? *All the right I/O - and lots of it* On the back panel of the Traveler-mk3, there are the four mic/line combo inputs, mentioned above, as well as four TRS analog inputs. Analog outputs include eight TRS 24-bit connectors. There are two optical banks, providing either 16 channels of AADAT at 48kHz, eight channels of S/MUX at 96kHz, or two banks of stereo TOSLink at up to 96kHz. The banks operate independently= , so you can mix and match optical formats. What's more, RCA S/PDIF and XLR AES/EBU connectors are onboard, providing independent stereo digital I/O. There's also a 16-channel MIDI interface onboard. Remember I dont have any digital things (the Fireworx would have to go Im afraid, to afford it) apart from the Repeater that has a digi out Ive never tried... HELP!! (But no hurry, its gonna take months before I can afford it...) Mark On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:46 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > and to add to Per, whose comments I second, the actual software mixer an= d > independent monitoring abilities, even midi control thereof, are awesome= ! > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Just remembered I forgot to say.... >> I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME >> Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but >> when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized >> that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the >> Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the >> Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the >> RME. >> >> Per >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> > Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) Well, the RME >> > Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend >> > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics and >> > two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line >> > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there >> > are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might >> > connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return >> > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The >> > Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and >> > significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried. It >> > seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound >> > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good >> > studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you >> > have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right. >> > >> > If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME >> > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's. >> > >> > Per >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> >> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a ne= w >> >> soundcard finally. >> >> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a ne= w >> audio >> >> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer >> too. >> >> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and poi= nt >> to a >> >> model, (and price) >> >> >> > >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > > =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever > music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page > . > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6143fa00841b04a5470d44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per sed: Should the list decide what model you need? ;-)

Er.. yes p= lease!

Well the problem for me is quite simply... money.
I of cou= rse want to get a GREAT result here, but I can see 2 ways to rebuild my stu= dio.

Right now I have a cheap-assed mixer in my rack (Behringer) that is use= d for live shows and recording the looping set-up. For professional composi= ng jobs, I usually mute everything but 1 channel and record one part at a t= ime, prob no looping. Quite often I miss out the rack completely and record= dry instruments and miked up acoustic instruments using a simple NI Audio = Kontrol. So .. stereo IN to my computer only.

This CAN DO... but I do want better preamps and recording quality, but = could, at a pinch emulate my current working practices at higher quality.
But, If I could choose, I would replace the Behringer mixer solution = completely and put a new soundcard into the rack that could be used both as= a rack mixer and a interface. But that would have to be 16 channel...
This is why I was looking at the Motu Traveller.. BUT.. Im not sure if it e= ven has enough inputs for me... I cant decipher the techno-babble.. What do= es this mean please?

<advert snip>
All the right I/O - = and lots of it
On the back panel of the=20 Traveler-mk3, there are the four mic/line combo inputs, mentioned above, as well as four TRS analog inputs. Analog outputs include eight TRS=20 24-bit connectors. There are two optical banks, providing either 16=20 channels of AADAT at 48kHz, eight channels of S/MUX at 96kHz, or two=20 banks of stereo TOSLink at up to 96kHz. The banks operate independently, so you can mix and match optical formats. What's more, RCA S/PDIF and= =20 XLR AES/EBU connectors are onboard, providing independent stereo digital I/O. There's also a 16-channel MIDI interface onboard.
</advert = snip>

Remember I dont have any digital things (the Fireworx would= have to go=20 Im afraid, to afford it) apart from the Repeater that has a digi out Ive never tried...

HELP!! (But no hurry, its gonna take months before I= can afford it...)

Mark










<= br>



On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:46 P= M, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
and to add to Per, whose comments I second,= =A0the actual software mixer and independent monitoring abilities, =A0even= midi control thereof, are awesome!=A0


On Thu, Jun= 9, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Just remembered I forgot to say....
I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME
Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but
when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized
that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the
Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the
Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the RME.

Per



On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) =A0Well, the RME
> Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics a= nd
> two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there=
> are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might=
> connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The
> Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and
> significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried.= It
> seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good=
> studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you
> have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right.=
>
> If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's.
>
> Per
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wro= te:
>> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a= new
>> soundcard finally.
>> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a= new audio
>> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mi= xer too.
>> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and = point to a
>> model, (and price)
>>
>




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.






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--90e6ba6143fa00841b04a5470d44-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 13:12:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A48121834A3; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z5zTTdovR08jESj/fvZahkwRwmJ0phXYuMgSiUMkbZU=; b=aVnO5RNp/ym6w5FBJ++knIB1iOq8YlAGUDkEKhDEBxotuz01IISsty8mfuom6axKRg 3V3CI6T5AapiMnsbQUZ9uHsBc5WreCkAGwDBPw/q4zCr2vTIKj2rV+5LAylA08Bv4v2y KWEMmQhzmdZiiHbscEwbAygOtZ2tFfrjDoneE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=k0YK5mmtun2mYzNklNiIOOcv61K9okpBwWObyJ/m5fsNBBoE9KO6LZQ1xdKFTxzhvI rraiLG8Q4PtrHQvLq0hJJAMw26cNlImdcyxokUyUp2QHeFp54MjbPNHhQ9ZyfbueMW3s tIu9RExe5RXFIs+xA7ZOcgVIpHniVP8fYZwAI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:12:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd58e60c65b4e04a5473589 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 15127 Lines: 393 --000e0cd58e60c65b4e04a5473589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ebay. bought my multiface (mk1) w/ pci card for ~200 bucks. the rme sounds great and the software is great. the mixer is the shit and gives you oodles of routing possibilities. - jim On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:01 AM, mark francombe wrot= e: > Per sed: Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) > > Er.. yes please! > > Well the problem for me is quite simply... money. > I of course want to get a GREAT result here, but I can see 2 ways to > rebuild my studio. > > Right now I have a cheap-assed mixer in my rack (Behringer) that is used > for live shows and recording the looping set-up. For professional composi= ng > jobs, I usually mute everything but 1 channel and record one part at a ti= me, > prob no looping. Quite often I miss out the rack completely and record dr= y > instruments and miked up acoustic instruments using a simple NI Audio > Kontrol. So .. stereo IN to my computer only. > > This CAN DO... but I do want better preamps and recording quality, but > could, at a pinch emulate my current working practices at higher quality. > > But, If I could choose, I would replace the Behringer mixer solution > completely and put a new soundcard into the rack that could be used both = as > a rack mixer and a interface. But that would have to be 16 channel... > This is why I was looking at the Motu Traveller.. BUT.. Im not sure if it > even has enough inputs for me... I cant decipher the techno-babble.. What > does this mean please? > > > *All the right I/O - and lots of it* > On the back panel of the Traveler-mk3, there are the four mic/line combo > inputs, mentioned above, as well as four TRS analog inputs. Analog output= s > include eight TRS 24-bit connectors. There are two optical banks, providi= ng > either 16 channels of AADAT at 48kHz, eight channels of S/MUX at 96kHz, o= r > two banks of stereo TOSLink at up to 96kHz. The banks operate independent= ly, > so you can mix and match optical formats. What's more, RCA S/PDIF and XLR > AES/EBU connectors are onboard, providing independent stereo digital I/O. > There's also a 16-channel MIDI interface onboard. > > > Remember I dont have any digital things (the Fireworx would have to go Im > afraid, to afford it) apart from the Repeater that has a digi out Ive nev= er > tried... > > HELP!! (But no hurry, its gonna take months before I can afford it...) > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:46 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > >> and to add to Per, whose comments I second, the actual software mixer a= nd >> independent monitoring abilities, even midi control thereof, are awesom= e! >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> Just remembered I forgot to say.... >>> I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME >>> Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but >>> when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized >>> that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the >>> Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the >>> Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the >>> RME. >>> >>> Per >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> > Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) Well, the RME >>> > Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend >>> > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics and >>> > two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line >>> > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) ther= e >>> > are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you migh= t >>> > connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return >>> > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The >>> > Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and >>> > significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried. It >>> > seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound >>> > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have goo= d >>> > studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you >>> > have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right= . >>> > >>> > If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME >>> > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's. >>> > >>> > Per >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe >>> wrote: >>> >> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a n= ew >>> >> soundcard finally. >>> >> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a n= ew >>> audio >>> >> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixe= r >>> too. >>> >> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and >>> point to a >>> >> model, (and price) >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >> >> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available whereve= r >> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page >> . >> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> http://toddreynolds.com >> http://twitter.com/digifiddler >> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic >> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds >> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >> >> >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --000e0cd58e60c65b4e04a5473589 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ebay.=A0 bought my multiface (mk1) w/ pci card for ~200 bucks.=A0

t= he rme sounds great and the software is great.=A0 the mixer is the shit and= gives you oodles of routing possibilities.

- jim

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:01 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w= rote:
Per sed: Should the list decide what model you need? ;-)

Er.. yes p= lease!

Well the problem for me is quite simply... money.
I of cou= rse want to get a GREAT result here, but I can see 2 ways to rebuild my stu= dio.

Right now I have a cheap-assed mixer in my rack (Behringer) that is use= d for live shows and recording the looping set-up. For professional composi= ng jobs, I usually mute everything but 1 channel and record one part at a t= ime, prob no looping. Quite often I miss out the rack completely and record= dry instruments and miked up acoustic instruments using a simple NI Audio = Kontrol. So .. stereo IN to my computer only.

This CAN DO... but I do want better preamps and recording quality, but = could, at a pinch emulate my current working practices at higher quality.
But, If I could choose, I would replace the Behringer mixer solution = completely and put a new soundcard into the rack that could be used both as= a rack mixer and a interface. But that would have to be 16 channel...
This is why I was looking at the Motu Traveller.. BUT.. Im not sure if it e= ven has enough inputs for me... I cant decipher the techno-babble.. What do= es this mean please?

<advert snip>
All the right I/O - = and lots of it
On the back panel of the=20 Traveler-mk3, there are the four mic/line combo inputs, mentioned above, as well as four TRS analog inputs. Analog outputs include eight TRS=20 24-bit connectors. There are two optical banks, providing either 16=20 channels of AADAT at 48kHz, eight channels of S/MUX at 96kHz, or two=20 banks of stereo TOSLink at up to 96kHz. The banks operate independently, so you can mix and match optical formats. What's more, RCA S/PDIF and= =20 XLR AES/EBU connectors are onboard, providing independent stereo digital I/O. There's also a 16-channel MIDI interface onboard.
</advert = snip>

Remember I dont have any digital things (the Fireworx would= have to go=20 Im afraid, to afford it) apart from the Repeater that has a digi out Ive never tried...

HELP!! (But no hurry, its gonna take months before I= can afford it...)

Mark















On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:46 PM, todd rey= nolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
and to add to Per, whose comments I second, = =A0the actual software mixer and independent monitoring abilities, =A0even = midi control thereof, are awesome!=A0


On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8= :43 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Just remembered I forgot to say....
I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME
Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but
when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized
that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the
Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the
Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the RME.

Per



On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) =A0Well, the RME
> Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics a= nd
> two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there=
> are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might=
> connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The
> Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and
> significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried.= It
> seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good=
> studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you
> have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right.=
>
> If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's.
>
> Per
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wro= te:
>> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a= new
>> soundcard finally.
>> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a= new audio
>> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mi= xer too.
>> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and = point to a
>> model, (and price)
>>
>




-- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.







--000e0cd58e60c65b4e04a5473589-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 13:31:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CC641834A3; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 767818.97153.bm@omp1044.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307626289; bh=M02aDEpxY9QJVdjpmQ6mTvhudw5nmeyOGIMKfTWFwIo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O2KS8FihXCf9kxjIyxifavGu9PUBlXfa24U8zX4dKfNQbTxsk+wFRm5uo9CFOk1q0jHjnmJrs84GjrCheWPQOd09qldtghmHQBrk/NYP5eT0p6C4nhUytTT/Vz7LxvaDmBvWqkaCA801/VJ3RfGOv5yT8dRE664YNGlsiG5xt9w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kufXf57tW6v9yFf7gzAbmMCrWIaDAi7Pt/QgxNhQ1OBJ2PZv7fbVf4wnR27irbDB/d9QNtrGP9O9e/oxO6KU9AUNbhIDFP1y6Q5ljvzs90iQcP9A6LPjUhid0Fo8LOrXgoRVFKCzYoJ/R3N3EYy1F8HrfDJxOPJNlz7Fkkerddg=; Message-ID: <651054.86972.qm@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zNWwgY8VM1luzOv4P5K0M0ZXF.FdINxyx21ifk0LRmmMaZn hL.HiGc__M4StSVJy0FLJQ78_CuwiNkgVlmfJMEDCti1_gw5dqJghd65n1Be W4rvKXpNZr8nHZuSCICMJh8U8nRqCZJArpixd6eDqRACog5pys_9iHdZYmRr 0fK.LFqm0jujFo4qzDsCviU0omxSduIirub3q8vn.u3FSzRHnNVLUGgLR_SR bfGNKBIVhWFQUas..8jh753VGkcw4NgrM3gQLoM.7QGqPcITMJwlATR201CU XWH6o4ccpPrs0wO334k4J4q5BnVUlYb7C1IvuPn_9o8HwQ15QdEMxAiVMM86 0HD1_4NSau8LEbnfZB3gpHC9CYzB_5Qd9nF.SQa60UPDwDRi6yu_Xew-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:31:29 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2069240573-1307626289=:86972" Resent-Message-ID: <7Y3uZD.A.JME.ysM8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6032 Lines: 71 --0-2069240573-1307626289=:86972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I also use the Multiface, t' really very reliable an sounds good. Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 2:43:13 PM Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? Just remembered I forgot to say.... I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the RME. Per On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) Well, the RME > Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics and > two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there > are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might > connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The > Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and > significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried. It > seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good > studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you > have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right. > > If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's. > > Per > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new >> soundcard finally. >> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new audio >> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer too. >> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and point to a >> model, (and price) >> > --0-2069240573-1307626289=:86972 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I also use the Multiface, t' really very reliable an sounds good.

Antony Hequet

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 2:43:13 PM
Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface?

Just remembered I forgot to say....
I didn't buy the RME Fireface 400 because I already had the RME
Multiface. I was actually first looking at the Motu Ultra Light but
when I interviewed a number of qualified studio engineers I realized
that the Motu would not sound as good as I was used to by the
Multiface. And the FF 400 wipes the floor with the Indigo and the
Audiofire2 I had been using for laptop shows. Can't go wrong with the
RME.

Per



On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Should the list decide what model you need? ;-)  Well, the RME
> Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend
> it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics and
> two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line
> level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there
> are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might
> connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return
> loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The
> Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and
> significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried. It
> seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound
> just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good
> studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you
> have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right.
>
> If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME
> Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's.
>
> Per
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new
>> soundcard finally.
>> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new audio
>> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer too.
>> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and point to a
>> model, (and price)
>>
>

--0-2069240573-1307626289=:86972-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 14:08:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19E95183473; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=XJKasTDvruHXeBC/hAvnd8g9v75/jB1MhTZv09MH6ck=; b=BTMw9aFbJNAOWejKaBQCCalii5QC5gbahW9CWY+t6Py9fIkFHEyi0hB/oDmuH0Aoq0 DkZF9DbfrGFToFYFwA8bm86d/0kWTEaJAehD5xBd7/dDLI7zDDEBBN/YzqnyTmPuUCyC 77tIqTWOBoYln0VvKxFLP2eD93EobBgwhXdCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=MxepxSPAfEnp/ZFnRCiWWov5PXE/m6FMTDJsJDpLl2D44wdLvNiHJICJjNwhSk9NZf GOi6h/CVBlT3ZQBxE51EQBU9De5Et90js4fWXeF3eiGZu61RZaHjcUDTeVvOL0Rz6nQ8 lSUGHV+enhQj0lDbzAoTgDj9msJhtsYLn3/ec= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:08:46 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1B58DC1B-1806-433E-A0DF-EF411415849A@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1965 Lines: 52 I use the Fireface 800 with a Digimax LT for extra/higher quality mic = preamps. I find the Fireface 800 generally dependable and a great balance of = quality and price / # of inputs. I've had no problems using ever last one of the inputs simultaneously. The software mixer could be better, but it's okay. On Jun 9, 2011, at 5:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Should the list decide what model you need? ;-) Well, the RME > Fireface 400 goes for GBP 711. I have one of those and can recommend > it to anyone that doesn't need to record with more than two mics and > two guitars lined in at the same time. There are more input at line > level though, but if you need instrument level (electric guitar) there > are two such inputs. It also has the digital in/out stuff so you might > connect your TC Electronics Fireworx in a digital effect send/return > loop, which I also have tried and thought worked like a charm. The > Fireface sounds great. On the pair of my old RME Multiface and > significantly better then some other cheaper solutions I've tried. It > seems you get what you pay for and above the RME quality stuff sound > just a tiny bit better but become way more expensive. If you have good > studio monitors the good RME sound will benefit your music, if you > have the musical experience and hours required to tweak it just right. >=20 > If you need eight simultaneous analog inputs there is the bigger RME > Fireface 800. Goes for GBP 1020. About the same spec's. >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM, mark francombe = wrote: >> I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a = new >> soundcard finally. >> I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a = new audio >> interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer = too. >> But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and = point to a >> model, (and price) >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 14:21:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F157183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 621728785/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.173/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.173 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjYCAPHV8E1YbRWt/2dsb2JhbAAMR5gImBq/AoYjBJVpixQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,341,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="621728785" Message-ID: <4DF0D6F9.3020707@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:21:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1700 Lines: 68 mark francombe wrote: > What does this mean please? > > > *All the right I/O - and lots of it* > On the back panel of the Traveler-mk3, there are the four mic/line combo > inputs, mentioned above, as well as four TRS analog inputs. 4 mic/line inputs (mics on XLR) 4 line inputs all will 8 accept 1/4in jack plugs, but none is good for plugging in a guitar directly >Analog > outputs include eight TRS 24-bit connectors. 8 jack outputs, which we assure you of the highest quality > There are two optical > banks, providing either 16 channels of AADAT at 48kHz, eight channels of > S/MUX at 96kHz, or two banks of stereo TOSLink at up to 96kHz. The banks > operate independently, so you can mix and match optical formats. If you need another 8 inputs you can buy a (usually quite pricey) box with an ADAT output and hook it up. ...and then you can do the same again for another 8. > What's > more, RCA S/PDIF and XLR AES/EBU connectors are onboard, providing > independent stereo digital I/O. there's some sockets on the back that you don't need, but see below * >There's also a 16-channel MIDI interface > onboard. > > > Remember I dont have any digital things (the Fireworx would have to go > Im afraid, to afford it) apart from the Repeater that has a digi out Ive > never tried... * ahh, well I think you'd be able to plug the Repeater digi out into the Traveller if that helped. > > HELP!! (But no hurry, its gonna take months before I can afford it...) Have a look at the Focusrite stuff too, a bit cheaper than RME but still has good mic pre-amps and a very flexible onboard mixing system accessible from software. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 14:27:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DE2118349E; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SMnoh9s1yQCoo8OkYAfbu9XBz6RLTZ4qgRzyjME6xrg=; b=Zr/tiUhcKRSoECqDczQagqmqEQXyy21LQSvsk41sfWHCGGnwG7xDzmLRjNldA0aCtt EAwW9Q3xs02xF12TGy7m/KJqx9GlPZ6ZAE++83Mx0e/yH6BPnePZcO4w4dq53CPdkMDh gXbDcijqWrD1NgoLhYt1p9mKwYZkzIkwtX68A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=li4apoQOaaei9ncoqmM7mumElWaZ0y/evwNti2Dy5B01wJBwbo93m0Ajrd0tMgo/OU NA2dTh3fbYoDisyK060p2I/u20s21aXoRwUW7j8QQJ7b9rgBKVntZIBnGAp8PMuRhuC9 bGUIDhVez3ZpxFz6UlV/LL3jKMMTbvqktpy8U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:26:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf8ca0ff17b304a5483ee2 Resent-Message-ID: <0XiUXB.A.wdF.1gN8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1466 Lines: 43 --000e0cdf8ca0ff17b304a5483ee2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Presonus Firepod/FP10. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:37 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the sound > quality. > > If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality > pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q > > Is the apogee stuff solid? Is there a step below them price-wise? > -- -==-=-=- Tony --000e0cdf8ca0ff17b304a5483ee2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Presonus Firepod/FP10.

On Thu, Jun 9, 201= 1 at 12:37 AM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
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--000e0cdf8ca0ff17b304a5483ee2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 14:36:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76F5E1834A0; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: NextLoop/LoopCopy functions(boomerang III?) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:36:12 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <473632.86231.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <1gQo5C.A.ixF.epN8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 172 Lines: 5 I believe the Boomerang has a way to copy the current loop to an empty = loop (onto which one could then overdub), but not having a Boomerang I = can't confirm this. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 16:18:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D613183489; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3EXxI3HZtQeALh4JljJv2w)" From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:18:00 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <6D40648E-4AA2-4201-A146-1CAA1B28750D@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 7589 Lines: 117 --Boundary_(ID_3EXxI3HZtQeALh4JljJv2w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new soundcard finally. > I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new audio interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer too. But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and point to a model, (and price) Congrats on your gig. I have been a long time MOTU user. The Traveler disappointed me under Windows... Driver instability-- i know others who had no problems with it though. And, under Mac OS X, I had a very good experience with it. The MOTU 896 has the best SW mixer that I know of. Easy to use. Lots of features and works in standalone mode (at the gig.) RME has a better sounding converter, IMO. But this is in the realm of the subtle-- so subtle that most systems, rooms and ears would never know the difference. The biggest detractor to MOTU cards, I believe, is the sound of the bundled mic preamps. Its not that they are noisy. They are not. But they are somehow not all that musical. Depth of image..sheen of top end.. just not all there. Even a Mackie Onyx sounded better to my ears. (and I am no fan of Onyx.) Still, I made several great sounding recordings on the MOTU rigs that I have owned -- including film scores and TV work (Mythbusters I did entirely on a Motu rig with cheap preamps!.) As it happens, I recently moved to a Focusrite Sapphire 56-- The sound of the preamps is really great (for the money.) And the Liquid Pre models are useful.. they don't hold a candle to the real thing but they are very, very, good. The driver has been rock solid on both Mac and Windows and router has some very cool features that are unique to focusrite (i.e. Loopback to record audio from any application into your DAW) The problem that I have discovered with Sapphire is that the bundled SW mixer supports only 16 channels. DOH! a 28 input card with 16 channel mixer? Focusrite forget how to count? -- so, I am now back to MOTU 896 as my primary FW interface (It has a robust software mixer with internal effects and clip limiting on each input-- and it can be controlled via my USB controller.) I just use the Sapphire as a set of great sounding preamps. Mark, I have old cards laying around. Contact me off list. I might have something that can meet your needs that wouldn't cost you. D > I have just acquired a film scoring job, and may need to look at a new soundcard finally. > I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new audio interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a mixer too. But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific and point to a model, (and price) > > Mark > > > PS: Anyone wanna buy a TCElectronics fireworx? > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Boundary_(ID_3EXxI3HZtQeALh4JljJv2w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I have just acquired a film scoring = job, and may need to look at a new soundcard finally.
I = have no money but might be looking to sell a few things to get a new = audio interface. I have been lusting after the Motu Traveler as its a = mixer too. But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can you be more specific = and point to a model, (and = price)

Congrats on your = gig.

I have been a long time MOTU user.  The = Traveler disappointed me under Windows... Driver instability-- i know = others who had no problems with it though.  And, under Mac OS X, =  I had a very good experience with it.  The MOTU 896 has the = best SW mixer that I know of.  Easy to use.  Lots of features = and works in standalone mode (at the gig.) 
RME has a better = sounding converter, IMO.  But this is in the realm of the subtle-- = so subtle that most systems, rooms and ears would never know the = difference.    

The biggest detractor = to MOTU cards, I believe, is the sound of the bundled mic preamps. =  Its not that they are noisy.   They are not.  But they = are somehow not all that musical.  Depth of image..sheen of top = end.. just not all there.  Even a Mackie Onyx sounded better to my = ears.  (and I am no fan of Onyx.)   Still, I made several = great sounding recordings on the MOTU rigs that I have owned -- = including film scores and TV work (Mythbusters I did entirely on = a Motu rig with cheap preamps!.)

As it happens, = I recently moved to a Focusrite Sapphire 56--  The sound of the = preamps is really great (for the money.)  And the Liquid Pre models = are useful.. they don't hold a candle to the real thing but they are = very, very, good.  The driver has been rock solid on both Mac and = Windows and router has some very cool features that are unique to = focusrite (i.e. Loopback to record audio from any application into your = DAW)

The problem that I have discovered with = Sapphire is that the bundled SW mixer supports only 16 channels. =  DOH!   a 28 input card with 16 channel mixer?  Focusrite = forget how to count?  -- so, I am now back to MOTU 896 as my =  primary FW interface (It has a robust software mixer with internal = effects and clip limiting on each input-- and it can be controlled via = my USB controller.)  I just use the Sapphire as a set of great = sounding preamps. 

Mark, I have old = cards laying around. Contact me off list. I might have something that = can meet your needs that wouldn't cost = you.

D
 

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I have just acquired a film = scoring job, and may need to look at a new soundcard finally.
I have no money but might be looking to sell a few things = to get a new audio interface. I have been lusting after the Motu = Traveler as its a mixer too. But alot of you are mentioning RME.. Can = you be more specific and point to a model, (and price)

Mark


PS: Anyone wanna buy a TCElectronics fireworx?
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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

= --Boundary_(ID_3EXxI3HZtQeALh4JljJv2w)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 16:25:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 361D918349F; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EcV2DLWcPSc7mxrDPmBwYfxlBGPbJgsmXR8vSsdhGs0=; b=V9OTbWWlpLDIQhX3KGWcwRWVpriw3zzgwLlh8MbjaSdypEUHeP4vh3T1FGLc5vVKRR ZZph8iEK6yozj2UWJLpQBN3sM7QkFROs/djl2mEdeSjvpNvU3QpPvcEKnwGT9ZEhTz95 kf1xxdi8t0Ja2pL9NcMDa9Auqr5c0toi25uJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XJsNkXoUE/jK7xGIcspILF5reieK3viCUItVa9lB6z6k/ukuMNoLEJsEnXvpW/zIwK kdiMbl0qzbIkdoIZtJIDABpzW2jYHT0YKd4h0d1MCjzBHfPlA2tDFnjeU053NmKSsz1P RkLiPkJoCwNRTE9KHcLnTZVwW7GkNiUbBmkwM= Message-ID: <4DF0F3E4.2080402@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:25:08 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 594 Lines: 16 marcus kirby schrieb: > I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the > sound quality. > If I go down the software route, I need something with very high > quality pre-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q As other said, RME is usually a safe bet with regard to pres and drivers. The TC Electronics Konnekt have very fine pres and converters, and recently the drivers (read: latency) have moved into "ok" territory - ymmv. what has the MIDI clock to do with the interface? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 16:33:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13F95183489; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=iFZlq5IjZ6TfQnLefgpSc43+C+lT7Tx4Zub9lksUPMIPYTsoR5ezrtDyebZey6wcAlgatFzIxYF4b01MsjHeGg/CBFzhLU2UD7GHMxecdFsKkdrFnVnEQbdxt0YCn8tnsxhAWWPbvg+jTVLioG3jufTgpAvDJFp3HQdhlYznfXE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307637231; bh=Zlyc2t3+87MTovV7oSCdTUtZuc5JXZkDxL+YjHxW7F8=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=DN7uXfP58s/Z47qkfP2B55jxT6Ktj7+myrEkD6/3qZbGvGB3ROxtmIs4pXFde3MVyKTxLEzno48cVmH5IaME8Azjwgt/P2OOygGBVwJO/XffssZ2MkqJo+A4qJ+22SQFtpGX7kynwBvvJKhSfgK2ulHwkLIBaWoLvhTw/N9HyyM= X-Yahoo-SMTP: OQskSLeswBC2kdNEVqHEYK1lxP8pzkbKWw-- X-YMail-OSG: 4o5QuNQVM1mKa5.yy2mjtICglwXOwNxzXjE74AhorUeRRZS 5eZHLzP8nBgMZ3B8GizFUrWgihb6D.MkBJsimVeCpClZqUqZbVS3zQ9WzqCg 0prB_NU.q87k0YZaxEbGFsdXw6hribmWZzoh7yu8wrDYmfSGrrih0UHEU4wn f8m_u_YawTGBpjibkhS8Hn1Yq8pbeGQ0y2015eqsu1Op0dfr7ld_Nm54TwjN D19D6a3M1XSgRLHY2f1csf8f6N4v8mlsWSWo0DesAOvHEXeYgMPXNRVFoQlR adoyV_6cPKGIxuuzAKzIRp6n8w8BHb3TaqRno1dO2FwAcL3u9BJagqysfx1U AyTRMVS0jWFVzIIgHV4sryCPoWLWyQg_49KU6uSbduAuzfm8hb6e4ROW3Ucm ZHJqIZ.MPaRFZkef7_HMiRAbkwScJaIIDVjz2.VEAfP1ueq7AYxI6njrl_7G _F2sZ_am5uUIsFCG7AQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <4DF0F3E4.2080402@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DF0F3E4.2080402@googlemail.com> X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1A72F3B9-0BFC-419E-BD57-68BDD379B4DD@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Hans Lindauer X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_125788_AFbHjkQAATiWTfDz/wsInWxJYYU Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:32:19 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <1V21S.A.v1H.xXP8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1125 Lines: 29 I've been really happy with my Fireface800 as well. The sound quality is gr= eat to my ears, but even more than that it's just worked all the time - I ha= ven't had any issues with drivers or synchronization at all (even when I was= using it with a Vista laptop). I'll buy the UFX version at some point, sin= ce I have my I/Os totally maxed out on this one and I'd love to have the DSP= for live gigs. -Hans On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Rainer Straschill wro= te: > marcus kirby schrieb: >> I'm currently using a motu ultralite, and I'm not really digging the soun= d quality. >> If I go down the software route, I need something with very high quality p= re-amps, low latency, and stable midi clock.q > As other said, RME is usually a safe bet with regard to pres and drivers. > The TC Electronics Konnekt have very fine pres and converters, and recentl= y the drivers (read: latency) have moved into "ok" territory - ymmv. >=20 > what has the MIDI clock to do with the interface? >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 16:40:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06AE218349E; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2965 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:40:19 UTC Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-762454167 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <0LMI00L8HRLNY6Z2@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:50:52 -0700 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: References: <0LMI00L8HRLNY6Z2@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4958 Lines: 105 --Apple-Mail-6-762454167 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've got a USBPre I'd like to sell. On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Richard Rives wrote: > RME, Metric Halo, you might want to look at the Sound Devices USBPre2 = & Lynx Studio products. >=20 >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-6-762454167 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
RME, Metric = Halo, you might want to look at the Sound Devices USBPre2 & Lynx = Studio products.

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= --Apple-Mail-6-762454167-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 16:46:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF46B18348A; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jseB3AW91n84yXlpBjkM+DY7n4Uba0CGWtQExEF7VhM=; b=kOWm7nxWYPTMf3kHvA2r+dZxpkcD8wLBwfRK/7wriNAxNsIcOF97NtmybSbEutOyLN RxXFsp30EdajiZRdHS86v7n7aicCqHkDPYJFzvrd1To3wAjPXxpMxA8YA8ZUwlRdCpUP SiYAQlEoOXP2qEYhwXhVF9GqYWwVxQWq/ejS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NJS1RMlS7+qDoCSQ/wCSRPVGaji9Hn8P/agn5NG86189FCLELbNnEZSoLayq8ZKL3q JMWgaIoP0BsgDwynNbb2Vh/KYBZvYlhGTl0FynWNwh6Kafd2Iw4YmtHVdSAotQYcGwXs NVWaNWzFFl5dGcXq4WCVPWj1b/I174Qs1avTs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF0F3E4.2080402@googlemail.com> References: <4DF0F3E4.2080402@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:46:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 580 Lines: 18 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > what has the MIDI clock to do with the interface? He probably meant digital clock ;-) With both my RME's you can set manually which one to be the master, slave or if they should auto sync - when connecting them digitally (which I do when performing with my laptop and splitting its RME output as eight digital channels going through the ADAT light pipe to be recorded on a second machine) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 17:56:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25D9E183459; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mMhdZmpofw8f1qHQEvuJjCBtwS2fKJbp44kUJpumkm4=; b=DAuo/CGuGvh6zLEQ81FMjj5YRPE3B4WGxmW7Cf5ZzMEwqQAQphi3YHbAEB8S3/mbON 1uQNuyZYWL1dI/eTn3k46X07kInFFHsjA2d4z/Mj80bbSUQaNOrjqivm1LplkmKg837D +ThC3I3OJ/pChbjS3zGSSMCBknw823OhSOfnk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=spCHAhgx52F/XpOxsgJ4oN32ItREIpUQoMRRvVkcDFOZYrbcpTw5Q7Re8VtWAuzZvT NubiGkt4BA36H3pfKvK8SCU6M/dcQv6Ca+iT2/agakHpr9hmpGZYvitk8/MS7iwdDYd+ VANPKEVmtG9MJvWucFi9WR/d3CxtftUttddDk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DF0F3E4.2080402@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:56:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 711 Lines: 23 I'd also recommend RME On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Rainer Straschill > wrote: >> what has the MIDI clock to do with the interface? > > He probably meant digital clock ;-) > > With both my RME's you can set manually which one to be the master, > slave or if they should auto sync - when connecting them digitally > (which I do when performing with my laptop and splitting its RME > output as eight digital channels going through the ADAT light pipe to > be recorded on a second machine) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 18:01:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5EDB183486; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF10A92.4060105@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:01:54 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1109 Lines: 20 GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Radio Massacre International. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 19:01:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FD2D183463; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GuL6dV4sV0sx9mWjq3o0IzGhidMuUqCfPUiYig75r1o=; b=QbJjQUkJpOPHCyZymyFhOAgle29BLrAmFQN0XxgHRUSTCYsiAKbVJ5xT7Uw3dBiQt/ y4HDIhjiiJ5vRMPZSUeIgAohIoKtgZb+vVnnRe7INYxWd4mNs8Qm9MKt7SSSU+diCHY7 jjWr0GUl+pul4O67tLK0/J3Gb247DqzhasNZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xLsG1bz6AUvcLlSdwHKhig6Pmkac4/hVgyGmhftVZpqJ6DtIXZoWH3blazqRJt2Lqp 00hGjzUJt6FzN51PhNyxJkq5YPpOJMi/2TtM8Exb41boR1P+GVkHEqPYoW6XzM81voxq B/wYufzL/PYo2VcyM3AhjXhwzNtuL2+B4hqjc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DEDDF1C.4060506@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8CDF1E27E080803-1680-1FBB0@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> <4DED14BC.6030202@tiscali.co.uk> <4DEDDF1C.4060506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:01:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bringing loops in and out with an edp From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd75fa20ad67804a54c13f5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 4642 Lines: 110 --000e0cd75fa20ad67804a54c13f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I finally have a few hours to sit down and try all of these. Way excited. I should be receiving my second edp tomorrow! On Jun 7, 2011 3:19 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > > > Louie Angulo wrote: >>> With 2 EDPs in stereo config.....now brace yourself.... >>> I also have a thing where I hit the Insert button on the panel >>> of the second EDP. Then the 2 EDP are in a polyrhythmic relationship >>> with one always being just one beat longer than the other. >> >> ok Andy this sounds cool! but how do you do this so the second EDP is >> exact in polyrhythm with the 1st one? do you keep insterting until it >> does? >> are u just using them in stereo or controlling them separate? > > you first follow the instructions that were just above those ones in > the original mail:- > > >>Quantise=Cycle >>InsertMode=SUS >>tap in a very short loop (one beat), >>and then each press of Insert increases the >>loop length by an equal chunk of time. >>Kind of similar to the 8th Replace thing, but with an ever expanding loop. > > > So you're starting from the point where the 2 edps are synced, > and just Insert a single cycle to the slave. > Going back to the footcontroller, each press of Insert adds one beat > to both EDPs. > > Typically I'd record a short loop, > and hit the Insert on the slave front panel. > so > EDP Left is 1 cycle > EDP Right is 2 cycle > ...not so interesting till the regular Insert is used again > EDP Left is 2 cycle > EDP Right is 3 cycle > ...and again > EDP Left is 3 cycle > EDP Right is 4 cycle > > Just like 8th Replace, > except that the timing's different, and you're using > whole cycles instead of 8ths > > >>> ...and of course, everybody loves using Insert with StutterMode don't they? >> >> eh...never used that one,got a recording of it? > > not that I can access easily. > Andre Lafosse used it a lot. > > andy > > > > --000e0cd75fa20ad67804a54c13f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I finally have a few hours to sit down and try all of these. Way excited= . I should be receiving my second edp tomorrow!

On Jun 7, 2011 3:19 AM, "andy butler" = <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>= ; wrote:
>
>
> Louie Angulo wrote:=
>>> With 2 EDPs in stereo config.....now brace yourself....
>= ;>> I also have a thing where I hit the Insert button on the panel>>> of the second EDP. Then the 2 EDP are in a polyrhythmic relat= ionship
>>> with one always being just one beat longer than the other.
= >>
>> ok Andy this sounds cool! but how do you do this so t= he second EDP is
>> exact in polyrhythm with the 1st one? do you k= eep insterting until it
>> does?
>> are u just using them in stereo or controlling t= hem separate?
>
> you first follow the instructions that were = just above those ones in
> the original mail:-
>
>
>>Quantise=3DCycle
>>InsertMode=3DSUS
>>tap in a ve= ry short loop (one beat),
>>and then each press of Insert increase= s the
>>loop length by an equal chunk of time.
>>Kind of = similar to the 8th Replace thing, but with an ever expanding loop.
>
>
> So you're starting from the point where the 2 ed= ps are synced,
> and just Insert a single cycle to the slave.
>= Going back to the footcontroller, each press of Insert adds one beat
> to both EDPs.
>
> Typically I'd record a short loop,<= br>> and hit the Insert on the slave front panel.
> so
> EDP= Left is 1 cycle
> EDP Right is 2 cycle
> ...not so interesting= till the regular Insert is used again
> EDP Left is 2 cycle
> EDP Right is 3 cycle
> ...and again<= br>> EDP Left is 3 cycle
> EDP Right is 4 cycle
>
> J= ust like 8th Replace,
> except that the timing's different, and = you're using
> whole cycles instead of 8ths
>
>
>>> ...and = of course, everybody loves using Insert with StutterMode don't they?>>
>> eh...never used that one,got a recording of it?
>
> not that I can access easily.
> Andre Lafosse used it a= lot.
>
> andy
>
>
>
>
--000e0cd75fa20ad67804a54c13f5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 20:11:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05272183453; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L9TG4M6/zOaEvSX130COEGxcVD34nyvj8JDui3l1soU=; b=LZjuLPfj7VPWR5fguby+t0Da3p1xEO0k+q3cWDZBlVWv8crAvOKyMuc4BKy+K7KVh5 e3ZFloQCO213R0CE/ByeQydHclYo1Np7YAN41jGJG9oqY+Q4k/hoZ+FOM+Xhf4g/ly8d BAb3kZyPSQyL5ongMxzsuFkskwErAfzK31aT8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xso49mS6XKCIDcWG5jnV5FDli2wcPVmQllEoV4qZ/810cDAegZiw3AInzUGzd+miCt fkIwfY0/sMl7gTfquH3AiVKyLynuIkVLpGxJoKcC3Kf88O5ahcFcBXt+I6jvtiNXoQnL TWefej5BQKez3rzfaidMEVLiYUPV3ptUcQLjg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:11:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP + repeater? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <12sGE.A.DLE.NkS8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2281 Lines: 46 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:53 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > Does anyone use a mixture of the edp and repeater? Yes, for a couple of years I used one EDP as the sync master and a Repeater as the sync slave. A third slaving device I had in that mixer rack was the beat sync filter bank Akai MFC42. I too used the same trick as Mark mentioned, making an empty loop first in the Repeater and then overdubbing into it (I do that today as well with Mobius when looping the same way in a laptop). There was another issue to look out for with the Repeater and that is to start off at a too fast tempo, then it simply can't process audio in time. But I found out that it hooks up at half tempo, so even if you can't overdub etc on the Repeater for the rest of that piece it won't drift totally off beat. Here is a "shortcoming" in the Repeater that I liked a lot: When changing tempo, if for example you make a lop in the EDP and truncated it down to 75 percent of the original length the new tempo is immediately sent to the Repeater but it doesn't dig in on the new tempo right away. It sort of accelerates with an accelerando until it hooks up with the EDP's new faster loop tempo. That is because the Repeater needs its precious time to make new calculations to time stretch the loop for the new tempo. It can sound really cool if cutting the EDP loop into a new time measure and having the Repeter slowly catch up with the old loop being speeded up. > I would use the repeater for looping vocals, and re-sampling my guitar loops. Should work fine that way. > The repeater has multiple tracks that can be faded in/out, right? Also, how are you controlling it? The Repeater plays one loop made up by four tracks. You can do a lot of cool sound design tricks by recording into two tracks "as stereo" and split them up into two mono tracks and then slip one of them in time by an eighth note or whatever fits. > Maybe use a midi controller to adjust parameters? Yes, the Repeater has a MIDI implementation, but it is fixed so you need to use a MIDI controller that is programmable. But I think the Repeater's front panel controls can take you quite far as well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 20:30:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 499DD183463; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:30:15 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110609203015.206690@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110607110041.44630@gmx.net> <20110607141738.54180@gmx.net> <20110608080256.259500@gmx.net> <20110609080923.76810@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Qc7A8YhpQg9AIrNHkQj9GnZjmILV+z4EZggiLDa jMvWBimLVW+Oz8le4PS1eIMWSuG0JMLd/OcA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: bxrEecgXTiE+O9p6nGVwp+J9ZUVSRNeu Resent-Message-ID: <0HhGS.A.JjE.Z1S8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 507 Lines: 16 Thanks, Per. That's a bit of change from my flat Korg NanoKontrol. -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:15:57 +0200 > Von: Per Boysen > An: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" > Betreff: Re: Faderfox LV3 = perfect controller! > I'm back at HQ now. Measuring gives the LV1 is exactly 7 cm high. > > Per > -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 9 20:44:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61BE1183465; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=cubck+4FDi/NAYq2vepkzVWKknZKPY0xDHrKMt6ASFc=; b=gSaSP4O7Q14V9rP0+SxC1KtyEaqvgNxakVnbtxuxWBLQ8/KAjH9iognGH9oWTdSWk/ HZ13V4G1RQEXI4fxcVibSJho7ofUSLnZpyBgDkPYEi/lnWHUwQPO6IIrOALM0VLOXkDK c2L78rA44cCCFgh47eegi6a2rHu9ZgXpneEUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=mt2J1mv9VMSzGj2FyaCbFm5kS0kxP4ae/R5b2QrRv6MipMV+ReaxGqk5FCsLIuBgsY QU4ds2G9Aw7rhLWr+LrTkCI8kdL4EwM4TbIg77M+mastqSMG09u0ROvcqSSXQGSlyzvN baTVZ3klfMU1yrwBYyZl9bYtW0xU3E8oO0q+Q= References: <4DF0F3E4.2080402@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <2B22B3EF-D48F-44A5-9E14-89657302CDC8@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:43:44 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 924 Lines: 34 I love the sound quality of my RME 400. -f www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 09/giu/2011, alle ore 19:56, Ricky Graham ha scritto: > I'd also recommend RME >=20 > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Rainer Straschill >> wrote: >>> what has the MIDI clock to do with the interface? >>=20 >> He probably meant digital clock ;-) >>=20 >> With both my RME's you can set manually which one to be the master, >> slave or if they should auto sync - when connecting them digitally >> (which I do when performing with my laptop and splitting its RME >> output as eight digital channels going through the ADAT light pipe to >> be recorded on a second machine) >>=20 >> Greetings from Sweden >>=20 >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 11:33:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F569183464; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF20118.7060006@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:33:44 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #740 for June 9, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1AczU.A.VEC.cEg8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2606 Lines: 68 http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110609.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #740 June 9, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Fast Forward" on Northern Echo. RMI: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jun PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Steve Roach Off Planet Passage Live at SoundQuest Fest (Timeroom Editions) Sensitive Chaos Seeker After Seeker After Patterns Patterns (Subsequent) Mark Jenkins Earthbase Delhi Mexico Rising (AMP) Erik Wollo and Mirror Image Arcadia Borealis (DiN) Bernhard Wostheinrich Radio Massacre tranche 1 Fast Forward (Northern Echo) International 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Radio Massacre tranche 2 Fast Forward (Northern Echo) International Radio Massacre tranche 3 Fast Forward (Northern Echo) International Radio Massacre tranche 4 Fast Forward (Northern Echo) International Radio Massacre tranche 5 Fast Forward (Northern Echo) International 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Philadelphia Air-shot" on Northern Echo. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 13:04:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5005F183464; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 632028577/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.73/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.73 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjACACkV8k1V0rtJ/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgSmBy9M4YjBJVrixg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,347,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="632028577" Message-ID: <4DF2164B.6070801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:04:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 References: <4DF09423.60008@tiscali.co.uk> <8AA8E7D1-4884-4C57-8757-75B655FEE845@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8AA8E7D1-4884-4C57-8757-75B655FEE845@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1413 Lines: 72 I promised Vox to have a look at the review before going public, ...and need to finish it. Indeed I do have one here, intending to use it for gigs where a big rig is impractical, and it's a mono pa. ( I wanna be like Matt Stevens and turn up 5mins before playing :-) If anyone's really desperate I'll send them the review so far off-list. ..and of course, any questions answered. Probably most significant things about it are. NO FEEDBACK Control on loops. Mono. 80s max loop time. (90s shared between 2loops) No loop storage . Not practical to do a Verse Chorus structure with the 2 loops. Undo/Redo for full length of loop (for *both* loops independently). Multiply via resampling feature. It's a very interesting box. andy PS Todd Matthews wrote: > Here's the first review on Sweetwater: ta Todd > > > aw man... > > *by DC from LOS ANGELES, CA 91355 > *June 2, 2011 > /Music Background: Player of shows./ > + Does all those crazy loop effect things. > - Horrible noise added to signal. didn't find this, unless overdub was left on for 20+ repeats of the loop > - No loop level control. true > - Feels cheap when you hold it. not to me > - Changing loops requires you hold one of the pedals down with your foot > then pivot it 90 degrees. and hit another pedal sideways from it with > your heel. not true, but you do have to hit 2 adjacent switches with one tap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 17:53:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BC22183465; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1546 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:53:23 UTC Message-ID: <28BAB0E81CA24025AE97376399E8FF3B@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <7120662.10459.1307726243111.JavaMail.root@m01> In-Reply-To: <7120662.10459.1307726243111.JavaMail.root@m01> Subject: Re: For you software folks....what interface? Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:27:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18417 Resent-Message-ID: <6RdyfD.A.mpE.Tol8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 201 Lines: 4 I second the RME FW. I love mine. It is completely transparent. I just dropped it on the floor yesterday for about the 5th time, including once while playing live, and it keeps on ticking. :) Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 18:38:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE491183460; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tSqgE5tY4WnsN0bgzLr1WT8/8Vpmv04nnRHS38iNRTA=; b=ddz0/pQMPQ/D0SH5oqFIXAYFFmkMnO5su8ulJd/EbPTSowhsQBTbzQpePl8nj+QnfR AF/Be3kP9nULS1vQkKa9wyuk3E0r6mqV1oAOD3o1y1sicJdLZWdiQeR4fjczpEHUH587 sJQ9SqgiCrNYjAJdmKhqp7v3+pmvJNY8Gg854= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FEMmH0ciBFINPV96OsRp+5x7hlyoexp0LnXPUkmI0gIacnAaT7QTh2Ze168LIgrcFQ aNeqNbWnpVLjOMz34Y0nXzf+ggNjEi2cIYMI1JFqfyLWdhKeJMk5jWwLrdGwWHO7WZur jtfSg1E0cfteSk6Znbq5eDeBoy1GZZBBHahmk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:38:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: vox dynamic looper... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c5a3a7c11a04a55fdf57 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2849 Lines: 65 --00504502c5a3a7c11a04a55fdf57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 there is this blurb: http://magazine.dv247.com/2011/01/13/vox-dynamic-looper-loop-pedal-processor/ not sure if its really a review, looks more like press release restated.... you know, it looks like an interesting looper. i rewatched the vid overview vox did, i wish the person would explore the slow down mode more, but i guess they try to show everything to suck you in. i guess for me, i can understand that it's a floor device, and looks like they give lots of control options for a semi-small footprint (from the looks) my concern (again for me) is to do the manipulations, there appears to be A LOT of BENDING OVER to change/control/manipulate. that looks about as much FUN FOR as NUTHIN!!!! that's why i like to keep everything at hands reach (again i know that i'm a loser anomoly in the guitar effects world!!!) i just know that as i get older, the ability to bend over that much-IS NOT EASY....but maybe ab workouts is what they are going for, "create cool music & get an ab workout at the same time...." i'll be curious to read your review andy..... s--- www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn --00504502c5a3a7c11a04a55fdf57 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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not sure if its really a review, looks more like press release restate= d....
you know, it looks like an interesting looper.
i rewatched the vid overview vox did, i wish the person would explore = the slow down mode more, but i guess they
try to show everything to suck you in.
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i guess for me, i can understand that it's a floor device, and loo= ks like they give lots of control options for a semi-small footprint (from = the looks)
my concern (again for me) is to do the manipulations, there appears to= be A LOT of BENDING OVER to change/control/manipulate. that looks about
as much FUN FOR as NUTHIN!!!! that's why i like to keep everything= at hands reach (again i know that i'm a loser anomoly in the guitar ef= fects world!!!)
i just know that as i get older, the ability to bend over that much-IS= NOT EASY....but maybe ab workouts is what they are going for, "create= cool
music & get an ab workout at the same time...."
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i'll be curious to read your review andy.....
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--00504502c5a3a7c11a04a55fdf57-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 18:48:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6AF5183465; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VdOVrvzdj/nllUlFrD3/PVogYd6hCItKHVFjB9J88PA=; b=Dw5y1vdZybnHJN49T5hDFTbEaciRGAmWRdyCljXvNK89AMzCPyAcf4ufgIZ3PheDuL 8u+XT7ysazNmBcFqV6Ieh/hD5B9NeDQR81HKu4wPXlG0F1hYJgmIdfwzC/LA8jTeyVEC KiRu0bHmsEqyA/lDVunrGppp0ohNG7KWfqEDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=l3rclgbHYjqqRD9paqC5yh43e4LFPwMcAgeqhSJOUhkqdOYqmsfCSM3sUYZT/XXa+d YcHZ8VyaS77RPQyPxo52ZQcc16zPCjgpt2wAW0uXV9Fna4rcULAF+HXEYth1SwpIk8XF Urz9ferKMwC6VT4gXaAxzDssEWWv+o3a0Qzsk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:48:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Mobius scripting - move From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 557 Lines: 17 Hi folks, I've been having fun using the move function to trigger different portions of a loop, sort of remixing the loop live. I'd like to find a way to record the results of these manipulations, but I have some problems: 1) how can I send record command to one track while sending move commands to another (is that possible?) 2) Move cancels record (at least when used on the same track) Is there any way to make this happen in Mobius, or should I get another looper (or can I run two instances of mobius without conflict in Bidule)? thanks, Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 18:59:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5301E183465; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lCWh8uKgx8b4DjftQU4VUb/A30MwpjlPpOuIFy1qyIE=; b=vF48oy9657EGT9VClHMY9HyDNz+FB+ALmEZH84PG9FbmKdi4q49hmZjAs9zb0ZD2AL R/HxgL54z6AMylSOyX6AdnQTEhXnFADt8TPPuZZgw60jFg7cGKrlBRaa5NGLKF4R0ImG qH/iaIb22BSZ8cKEnd20mDxQpzRkoA/5rLaK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sJk8iLC+z28JB2hKLAAWVYhGN3HL+Y37fRNHmR3X5cBFDNfe1p0yxTO48WgfXATKda SiuhuXbEk75sWd7E4jEx2ytJcGXrnseTN4X8mm1qHsjlehYAukaRu1MQU7e5/OdTfvU2 8doHj3i5Sc4mW74oJVUFU/4pWNxTp2NJoG694= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:59:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripting - move From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4ER3wB.A.C1F.Lmm8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1511 Lines: 41 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I've been having fun using the move function to trigger different > portions of a loop, sort of remixing the loop live. =C2=A0I'd like to fin= d > a way to record the results of these manipulations, but I have some > problems: > > 1) how can I send record command to one track while sending move > commands to another (is that possible?) > 2) Move cancels record (at least when used on the same track) Use the three commands - Start Recording - Stop Recording - Save Recording You may assign them to three computer keys or three external MIDI events, whatever you find convenient. Another way is to record the system audio on the computer; on Mac there is Audio HiJack that does this and some other app from Ambrosia. We had a discussion on this about a month back on this list. > or can I run two instances of mobius without conflict > in Bidule)? Of course you can run two instances! To avoid conflicts you must make sure you are using different MIDI In Ports since both Mobius instances share the same MIDI Configuration. Then you need to set up a way to target either of these two MIDI In Ports in order to select which one of the two Mobius instances you want to affect with the given command. This is for external MIDI control, I don't think you can separate the two instances access to keyboard key commands. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 19:20:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 255A5183464; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gfrVOtnklfhMa6sT1JRQpRNCx8a0/NIoQK7mqbl0F8o=; b=oaN+Ofcwa4utNa45jNACi7EZon/QswXDaBgio6NPfclh6dADR0UrWubxXUlt6x7o/Z TLZ0nnv/g3iIpOk+lvaDaHIu7Y+rNgtmnQ6Z36OVCCNLW+N7N1+Cpiq0/YVhwzwmjXQM 92MIDOwYFEL62hXipAztmxDl/R4L8rhsbrEtQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hGeZXoDHFf7620ArMGfxS+1QNDMsciUPKABxMXwlT5ItZcFyhWNyU4sT5EzKbff/1S VEhEhRhopLZzlXe4UXn+TRAJ4Oo7vTXAC1jcXPA985rQj21T2Gb7+cWjPajm1WTErhwB cRA+j5nFOZ5Cij6WOMajPJpCUXJz3021ci2X8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripting - move From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2021 Lines: 56 Thanks Per, I'll give it a try with two instances, since that should make things easier control-wise. I guess I wasn't clear, what I'm trying to do is create a new loop from the sounds created by re-triggering an existing loop. Start, stop recording records a performance, right? Two instances of mobius should allow that, but I didn't know you could do t= hat! Sylvain On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >> I've been having fun using the move function to trigger different >> portions of a loop, sort of remixing the loop live. =A0I'd like to find >> a way to record the results of these manipulations, but I have some >> problems: >> >> 1) how can I send record command to one track while sending move >> commands to another (is that possible?) >> 2) Move cancels record (at least when used on the same track) > > Use the three commands > - Start Recording > - Stop Recording > - Save Recording > > You may assign them to three computer keys or three external MIDI > events, whatever you find convenient. > > Another way is to record the system audio on the computer; on Mac > there is Audio HiJack that does this and some other app from Ambrosia. > We had a discussion on this about a month back on this list. > >> or can I run two instances of mobius without conflict >> in Bidule)? > > Of course you can run two instances! To avoid conflicts you must make > sure you are using different MIDI In Ports since both Mobius instances > share the same MIDI Configuration. Then you need to set up a way to > target either of these two MIDI In Ports in order to select which one > of the two Mobius instances you want to affect with the given command. > This is for external MIDI control, I don't think you can separate the > two instances access to keyboard key commands. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 19:59:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33D98183465; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4KLcqYfauQWyihHf84Hk9EO7XGcWz/7phbkIvKaJFEo=; b=HoV0jqtiIuoUpRd8XR+pj61uMxcJeYRsfB4WUkiTv43Vj7gbuHP2RPbdXgHbv4eSAA 7qA45SnJtaIAW0DvqagS8EgZKkiTUt07nI0oXhaEr6WrroLB4QcOw8oIMqasuCZ6W2ci cFWGMN5YUY10dhopXKS9PGySS8hn2I9LJsI9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aQ0+f6rzCxiaNO3lI8EQ1kId01F0JMeJl2OSCa5AV7PRP1x/WNDQdbbKC7Ryu9iBmm Imq49mPbxY8uOyxGYTlGW6901GhbOxLXyeBSfGIZD+MuCq7RT1FtTGIgr4kvyz4uT/f8 i/SyNwu1Y2dFttrz3lk4eU4qFz66qC2NFbOds= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:59:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripting - move From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd9788146e5e04a5610369 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6473 Lines: 125 --0016e6dd9788146e5e04a5610369 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Of course you can run two instances! To avoid conflicts you must make > sure you are using different MIDI In Ports since both Mobius instances > share the same MIDI Configuration. Then you need to set up a way to > target either of these two MIDI In Ports in order to select which one > of the two Mobius instances you want to affect with the given command. > This is for external MIDI control, I don't think you can separate the > two instances access to keyboard key commands. I don't recommend running multiple instances of Mobius. I know some people have tried, and it might work some of the time. But there are some internal things that may not work properly if there are multiple instances. Even if I fixed this, I still don't see multiple instances being very useful because it's harder to synchronize them. You could not for example have a track in one instance be the master for a track in another instance, they would all have to use HostBeat or HostBar. Anyway...it wounds like what Sylvain wants is similar to the Bounce function. Start by recording one or more tracks, then execute Bounce. Now play around with those tracks, doing whatever you want with them, the performance is being recorded and held in a temporary area. Now when you press Bounce again, it will select an empty track and store that recorded performance in it, the other tracks will be muted. There are some issues with Bounce, I know you tried it a long time ago and the problem was it didn't preserve the cycle size of the source tracks. That problem still exists but it may not matter here. Another way to do this is to setup up each track to send/receive on a different port. In Bidule, each track would have a different pair of pins. Now, draw wires from the output pins of track 1 into the input pins of track 2. Now track 2 will record whatever is being sent from track 1. The problem with this is that when you change the active track, it cancels the recording in progress. For example: 1) Record track 1 2) Select track 2 3) Start a Record in track 2 4) Select track 1 so you can do some Moves In step 4, just selecting track 1 will cancel the recording in track 2 so you can't "play" track 1 into track 2. You can work around this with scripts but it's kind of complicated. Instead of using the Move function directly, put it in a script that uses "for" to make it run in a different track. For example: !name Move 1 Random for 1 Move rand(0, loopFrames) next Instead of doing step 4 above to select track 1, stay in track 2 and run this script. It will move track 1 but keep track 2 selected so the recording can continue. Jeff --0016e6dd9788146e5e04a5610369 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Of course you can run two instances! To avoid conf= licts you must make
> sure you are using different MIDI In Por= ts since both Mobius instances
> share the same MIDI Configura= tion. Then you need to set up a way to
> target either of these two MIDI In Ports in order to select which= one
> of the two Mobius instances you want to affect with the= given command.
> This is for external MIDI control, I don'= ;t think you can separate the
> two instances access to keyboard key commands.

I don't recommend running multiple instances of Mobius. =A0I kno= w some
people have tried, and it might work some of the time. =A0= But there are
some internal things that may not work properly if there are multiple<= /div>
instances. =A0Even if I fixed this, I still don't see multipl= e instances
being very useful because it's harder to synchron= ize them. =A0You could
not for example have a track in one instance be the master for a track=
in another instance, they would all have to use HostBeat or Host= Bar.

Anyway...it wounds like what Sylvain wants is= similar to the Bounce
function. =A0Start by recording one or more tracks, then execute Bounc= e.
Now play around with those tracks, doing whatever you want wit= h them,
the performance is being recorded and held in a temporary= area.
Now when you press Bounce again, it will select an empty track
and store that recorded performance in it, the other tracks will
be muted.

There are some issues with Bounce, I = know you tried it a long time ago
and the problem was it didn't preserve the cycle size of the sourc= e
tracks. =A0That problem still exists but it may not matter here= .

Another way to do this is to setup up each track= to send/receive
on a different port. =A0In Bidule, each track would have a different
pair of pins. =A0Now, draw wires from the output pins of track 1
into the input pins of track 2. =A0Now track 2 will record whateve= r
is being sent from track 1. =A0

The problem w= ith this is that when you change the active track,
it cancels the= recording in progress. =A0For example:

=A0 =A01) = Record track 1
=A0 =A02) Select track 2
=A0 =A03) Start a Record in track 2=
=A0 =A04) Select track 1 so you can do some Moves

=
In step 4, just selecting track 1 will cancel the recording in
track 2 so you can't "play" track 1 into track 2.
<= br>
You can work around this with scripts but it's kind of co= mplicated.
Instead of using the Move function directly, put it in= a script=A0
that uses "for" to make it run in a different track. =A0For = example:

=A0 =A0!name Move 1 Random
=A0 = =A0for 1
=A0 =A0 =A0 Move rand(0, loopFrames)
=A0 =A0ne= xt

Instead of doing step 4 above to select track 1, stay in track
2 and run this script. =A0It will move track 1 but keep track 2
selected so the recording can continue.

Jeff

--0016e6dd9788146e5e04a5610369-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 20:36:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15A05183463; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vzI0TKyVT4ZdG3muZQuLLpV6Sr3QYsi+da0Lti0s4ik=; b=tSXFKhyh7I4GU9yccjCLyQZGojoULm+casrImZHfFAxFUX00nuK4qbJGD6XwKN41un 4TY1kl9abde8NkrUfb+/DwKj/kL4FtycxMNM9PPfYFwjveFoI14B4Y2W0mSo1/sHQPbM hJuRfY3cR5LZ5T5zYOvPXBztcxlZUBRYYrxKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RsoVYLBG4BCi+akd6GzV3I9g10xYRu2wvfpmsTJDGoBqJOMDAWmsm+dGRknhWq7OSX 7cMHXxvz153VF7MLp1xPoPjGlNODgHYBU/UR4YlU2xKE7kS+Y5+0Q+WYhHTuudRWXke7 TFH9QO7l4aqCD4oAmeXFOhi7il3CD9rJmU7Kc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:36:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripting - move From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2963 Lines: 56 Thanks Jeff, That's the scripting magic I was looking for! Sylvain On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > >> Of course you can run two instances! To avoid conflicts you must make >> sure you are using different MIDI In Ports since both Mobius instances >> share the same MIDI Configuration. Then you need to set up a way to >> target either of these two MIDI In Ports in order to select which one >> of the two Mobius instances you want to affect with the given command. >> This is for external MIDI control, I don't think you can separate the >> two instances access to keyboard key commands. > I don't recommend running multiple instances of Mobius. =A0I know some > people have tried, and it might work some of the time. =A0But there are > some internal things that may not work properly if there are multiple > instances. =A0Even if I fixed this, I still don't see multiple instances > being very useful because it's harder to synchronize them. =A0You could > not for example have a track in one instance be the master for a track > in another instance, they would all have to use HostBeat or HostBar. > Anyway...it wounds like what Sylvain wants is similar to the Bounce > function. =A0Start by recording one or more tracks, then execute Bounce. > Now play around with those tracks, doing whatever you want with them, > the performance is being recorded and held in a temporary area. > Now when you press Bounce again, it will select an empty track > and store that recorded performance in it, the other tracks will > be muted. > There are some issues with Bounce, I know you tried it a long time ago > and the problem was it didn't preserve the cycle size of the source > tracks. =A0That problem still exists but it may not matter here. > Another way to do this is to setup up each track to send/receive > on a different port. =A0In Bidule, each track would have a different > pair of pins. =A0Now, draw wires from the output pins of track 1 > into the input pins of track 2. =A0Now track 2 will record whatever > is being sent from track 1. > The problem with this is that when you change the active track, > it cancels the recording in progress. =A0For example: > =A0 =A01) Record track 1 > =A0 =A02) Select track 2 > =A0 =A03) Start a Record in track 2 > =A0 =A04) Select track 1 so you can do some Moves > In step 4, just selecting track 1 will cancel the recording in > track 2 so you can't "play" track 1 into track 2. > You can work around this with scripts but it's kind of complicated. > Instead of using the Move function directly, put it in a script > that uses "for" to make it run in a different track. =A0For example: > =A0 =A0!name Move 1 Random > =A0 =A0for 1 > =A0 =A0 =A0 Move rand(0, loopFrames) > =A0 =A0next > Instead of doing step 4 above to select track 1, stay in track > 2 and run this script. =A0It will move track 1 but keep track 2 > selected so the recording can continue. > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 20:56:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 564C9183465; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=B47nvV4Ix0RDbLMhBoaFifjvoBrB7p/jHaIIEN/EdjQ=; b=ntZhncolqqSPt8gQuEidA0HCS3wucqf27aHjt6KjWyHgffNX0ituyiypv0HZwo/aBd Fk9Cb8FZIOrtX6H84ZDBmdBF0WJ38fNdemwwjhQiMc1pczpzOySnXriI1K4JqY1UJasd C4IRE3YYzGI2RwLLdmlxZZt6Vok7Q2oFciu/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bm3hxNWMgh4yTKmwtMw2J84w6YZvDPrPGpLz2KWGp8WiF59VjsTvifUUw2Lplz8fGQ x13FscaowghQMQhksNhiRzdZ7RZ+LguPy4/pxEawV+CG8JH1+MNOzCSiHud6hvSZFdGY doqbNYTeOJabhhL5FQgft5xBTcfnd82+LZHWA= Message-ID: <4DF284DA.1030004@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:55:54 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 References: <4DF09423.60008@tiscali.co.uk> <8AA8E7D1-4884-4C57-8757-75B655FEE845@gmail.com> <4DF2164B.6070801@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DF2164B.6070801@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 856 Lines: 33 For me the loop effects look most interesting of all the features, because this is something you can't do using another FX unit without some kind of resampling. (To be more precise you can do _Pitch_ but you can't do _Speed_ for example). The name _loop fx_ seems also quite good as a supplement to the commonly used pre/post fx. In fact multiply and feedback control could be considered loop fx variants. Michał On 10.06.2011 15:04, andy butler wrote: > (...) > > Probably most significant things about it are. > > NO FEEDBACK Control on loops. > Mono. > 80s max loop time. (90s shared between 2loops) > No loop storage . > Not practical to do a Verse Chorus structure with the 2 loops. > Undo/Redo for full length of loop (for *both* loops independently). > Multiply via resampling feature. > > > It's a very interesting box. > > andy > > (...) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 10 21:35:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34284183465; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=j+DncNKQswKQ635F9SEDEK4FC2A7Lc2dssJPg1Ltg54=; b=jYmUn3GHGdBfcd6qWn+tixc5vIWRh/0AcLr1r0SnZxf+YQn0MelsC8YhIZ9A6KGT2w Qdcxrg3zIdL4l433IJDapVUai87Pz2Xx6u6ClyUcxClwIiK+3iMnlpiJbs/6nkzRfIEQ vtD4JWPSeRxW2r8h87nXnhMCT4CtuTkGL9o0k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=AISMcz2nAa+v8w8UMBycJUs/B9WpcWzmzD4ubyAEcfNC9EH97l7r1dIwWomPnE4/fr WghUseX2yXOXzW9CrJRenrHAuY6wnRV2PFUYDRH4ASBAPnIn8hBFX2a30KjLr6/1I4rC cWY/eJcGD59ET0Kelv7c0LDRO+3P9aNr7Sahk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:35:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Hey everyone From: Jason Finnern To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1736f29db404a5625918 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 923 Lines: 31 --0015174c1736f29db404a5625918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Son wanted to video me trying out his new squier strat.....Fun little looping improv...Don't really play like this much any more but couldn't help myself...lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEk2dQAbUao Thanks, Jason --0015174c1736f29db404a5625918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0015174c1736f29db404a5625918-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 00:21:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CF9F183460; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 00:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=QZ5sScTDGV0zHbASzDGwfgNLY/ZmEvsNwIB9HnhNxBg=; b=wslJH+Vk2ePnxCXrBV0JobRqsApECR9zrk/FGloD+yby8OiCnyeL/lEHNMDD53UqBw U531Z9py0dI32GvsHmnJ4A6OTCacIiLPLopMDrVXUaa4J3Wz4hDmO5npXOt5/cxcqkJF wAW84cW6tHrup7s4OchSMpCShbVg1jJrbc9po= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=hvr8K4O52j2WRgjVt3ldQPdl9uJmI3hGARVvPD3N6XUmXnNAEZrYIi873RoryZdQCI DH2CTxzOziGn0ubn1u2gSitrp71eytny7Ynu6S2e1pIzu3F0wWlGp6DmbbyhjUTaN7KV j6fTY9rnt9daEeutGDaLD1w0xdEck8NRmpEi4= From: Phil Clevenger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Teasing Time Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:21:26 -0700 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 00:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 515 Lines: 12 Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time subdivisions from a very = long delay of indeterminate length? I'm moving from long ambient sound on sound stuff into more rhythmic stuff = without changing the delay setting. No clock driving the time and no readou= t on this particular device of delay duration. It's just set for "really re= ally long" ;) I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing what falls out = of it, but that can take some time and sometimes is not so pretty... Phil :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 03:52:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A223E183466; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 03:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <66DAF670-C137-4757-A004-D37ABA7ACBAF@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-892161969 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:52:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 03:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3232 Lines: 67 --Apple-Mail-5-892161969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolsk said: For me the loop effects look most = interesting =20 of all the features, because this is something you can't do using another FX unit without some kind of resampling. If you are talking about reproccessing the loop, both the Line 6 M13 =20= and M9 can do that simply by placing the loop at the front of the =20 chain of effects. if you are talking about applying the proccessing =20 exclusively to the looped material i believe in this way it is =20 unique , i have only spent a few minutes with it so far but i'll give =20= it this, its its on little twist on the floor looping experience, =20 definitley geared toward the sound tweaker. I found it a bit confusing =20= trying to feel my way through it but that seems to be the case with =20 most things these days:-) Bill= --Apple-Mail-5-892161969 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Micha=C5=82 = Wiernowolsk said: For me the loop effects look most = interesting of all the features,
because this is something = you can't do using another FX unit
without some kind of = resampling.

If you are talking about = reproccessing the loop,  both the Line 6 M13 and M9 can do that = simply by placing the loop at the front of the chain of effects. if you = are talking about applying the proccessing exclusively to the looped = material i believe in this way it is unique , i have only spent a few = minutes with it so far but i'll give it this, its its on little twist on = the floor looping experience, definitley geared toward the sound = tweaker. I found it a bit confusing trying to feel my way through it but = that seems to be the case with most things these = days:-)
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-5-892161969-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 05:04:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43B84183473; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 05:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gENkGCJg9XiqnhNiZiq/jLQZTIYJRO0/koqbITo9AZ4=; b=wSAZl7bifjvF360wZMDngXPna5GXt/vxS05gkVu4X3FplHbkW615QaBn4EnPXH1qmL kzLdbUoeqJ6q9cso43GK8JRsjK7eIJiq3ee9m9JZdEzceLeZdTp26gKA6UOHAnRd8ZiX TozTrOBliIn0tkUBquqxUAR8N8IAtgVg3XKyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KhxinaBI1aE5asmo+Y3/W1X1K8JA7Y8lohJ1zgMJP9F/cNreHXA+1jDDAQxygjqyLY Zn198322NT5JfAY0OkpGxTwstr9lKwJpIuuEHyzHD1TkEYUsVwapQ+rLR4bZUcHUUnKn g+iq8B0OHHdMeS1d5XPIaDJTS2izXGpA9f/N0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:04:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Motorpsycho & Jaga Jazzist Horns "Tristano" From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9WXsO.A.tuE.idv8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 05:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 423 Lines: 10 I was laying on the couch today when this came over last.fm and blew my mind. It's a 20 minute free jazz work out that visits Steve Reich, Ronald Shannon Jackson as well as Tortoise and Mogwai and a nod here and there to Miles 70s work. Lovely, if you give it time. Doesn't really hit its stride until the 10 minute mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOOdNLIAo2g -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 06:45:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D7AB183461; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 06:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 563279.98026.bm@omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307774732; bh=07XEukSFKeLxhBrBtBWRLCeZnqnImoVlRvoBWb2GHD0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SoFTSVPYgDYdNi5kAw/iZi3aSIrpW+gZ6/ykfhByZpKz6fKeTUxV401ROVxf70xi0eG82nLk9mljJwRwwW2kHqVnY/BbO4rSMRPrUol9I4QzhVb1ew0v18+g9tgFkNbPlXf5NtzMSk6bWLzFC8dXaUIDNt4HU0HwhZJ7ZtWncCs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KIDcDS1bb9HRHRMlojTZBK6JPt643W0CewoIr0q5wC7tsD7ra0ZKYnO/Vd2CfFkxGMN2Hy8raJzcNJFSLfffbYySkrBzQLmrQP9tNZneBR06mqOs4MC2OCG0SABPp71wN9DTjUJtd+9zIPByU7GgB5Ula5kmqi3SIgJuAN0Z0G0=; Message-ID: <467776.53109.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: K4ouUmYVM1lSeTSRhxxbpjxj15NLKYNl1ebDfr5ZYNfAWVm tZa3XWtT3Aze8ZVzQFrDZdEkJzpNIJhPDzN5fTSM9SSrlvVQng8fN.tnsReh uAu3msYjIS2JmoGGL81OjgmtdDGdVeKNl.5W0y7FwSQgJQdodWdH2yegk9cK qBhiZlL97mkBm96N_1NJLRifX4mw.BdU1AxqVjkiBCMA.D8xGeLgS3wf.zvS GFizWwO.aK3jqdWkKutqNIopsEQy3yP3Gf2CLGZ2tpYGs7UdUylmrRBoI.IR 1JuFO9YoYdDL0DeF8ad.dyYJVJdQjBrP0k.nLsDJ57FL81PKhiWNDgnCmV4d Thh5yGfJDLVpv8pCbzDGxeLdRAYPSZ8Dpk0W8DtgMNVFkmE96bqdpUA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 23:45:32 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Teasing Time To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1275228674-1307774732=:53109" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 06:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2502 Lines: 37 --0-1275228674-1307774732=:53109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii use modulation on a filter with a set pulse and with subdivisions, it induces a sense of tempo Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Phil Clevenger To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 2:21:26 AM Subject: Teasing Time Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time subdivisions from a very = long delay of indeterminate length? I'm moving from long ambient sound on sound stuff into more rhythmic stuff = without changing the delay setting. No clock driving the time and no readou= t on this particular device of delay duration. It's just set for "really re= ally long" ;) I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing what falls out = of it, but that can take some time and sometimes is not so pretty... Phil :) --0-1275228674-1307774732=:53109 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
use modulation on a filter with a set pulse and with subdivisions, it induces  a sense of tempo

Antony Hequet

From: Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 2:21:26 AM
Subject: Teasing Time

Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time subdivisions from a very =
long delay of indeterminate length?

I'm moving from long ambient sound on sound stuff into more rhythmic stuff =
without changing the delay setting. No clock driving the time and no readou=
t on this particular device of delay duration. It's just set for "really re=
ally long" ;)

I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing what falls out =
of it, but that can take some time and sometimes is not so pretty...

Phil :)

--0-1275228674-1307774732=:53109-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 08:55:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B09AF183473; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 629044792/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.188.119/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.188.119 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al0CANws801V0rx3/2dsb2JhbAAMR4RJk02YIK1zkFKBK4NvgQoElXWLHQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,351,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="629044792" Message-ID: <4DF32D87.80008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:55:35 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 References: <4DF09423.60008@tiscali.co.uk> <8AA8E7D1-4884-4C57-8757-75B655FEE845@gmail.com> <4DF2164B.6070801@tiscali.co.uk> <4DF284DA.1030004@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DF284DA.1030004@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5j8EuC.A.PjH.61y8NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 228 Lines: 17 William Walker wrote: > I found it a bit confusing trying to > feel my way through it me too There's a couple of things not mentioned in the manual to add to the fog. What did you think of the sound/tone though? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 09:27:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01241183465; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2bZALncI4J+UG+nja1NhGvA4ITrtT/qlDJG7Us9Ped8=; b=ngvJF3WH2wbPzAM3skhZhJYSb/GbzsBdJrW9M3Lkid3u4lobrwmWyoZEx3717/UK1Y 93tKkf/bRLF8hsoKVmsuQtfu44I/vjpI2WgwySFwZMP8GKY7NqdCdurSfXL2FchWLBwb UCPrvUXMekCBuC65J8LAYwQvoFt/dEAqPm1m8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=j2YVGPXnt3G3wffP0ZfgNXhmKaqyLJrCHxnrsoOIYCSTOP6RWVpW3VSrl238R615NY dBGO0WCcoGzHwPUHDgqyaBfN9V+dQvnFcX8HrObAXkDXuyZpOH0evk9iJxUk2PS6eQe0 EggD6L2zBPbPIqZgnja0LaVkrq9SLje3AvVP4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:26:55 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Gek2Y9ip7BY6W4pgniUauqXBsBo Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Motorpsycho & Jaga Jazzist Horns "Tristano" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1eff4ab1cfa904a56c4af1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 6309 Lines: 139 --90e6ba1eff4ab1cfa904a56c4af1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can fill in a bit of background here. Both of these Norwegian bands are considered "serious" musician bands, but from widely varying backgrounds. Motorpsycho have been around for about 15 years, are form Trondheim, and started as quite experimental "noise-rock". Infact they used to have a non-musician member of the band playing noise an= d sounds. He went on to get the first ever PhD in "Noise" here in Norway and is now more known as Helge Sten or the main man behind Supersilent. Moterpsycho progressed to be a little more mainstream, but always considere= d clever and accomplished. I have seen tham play 3 times and they have always been phenomenal. Infact the first time Cranes played in Norway, we borrowed al their amps and drums, and the band introduced us to illegal home made spirit. Jaga Jazzist are based around the Hjortvedt Brothers, and are a bit too Jaz= z for me personally, but I have seen them live a few times and they are an immpressive ensemble of about 8 to 10 musicians, combining jazz with electronics. they=B4re sound is characterised my a quite calm and laid back Jazz overlyed with the aggressive and hyperactive Drum and Bass of the drummer Martin Hjortvedt. They have done more than any other single band in promoting new and exiting jazz in Norway, resulting in excellent funding fo= r both jazz and experimental outfits. This album caused quite a stir here when it came out, no one even knew thes= e two monsters knew each other... I bought it immediatly, and its not for me, but WOW how I respect all these guys... all of them have thriving careers in film-music and TV soundtracks and commissioning works for festivals here in Norway and rightly so. Mark On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Art Simon wrote: > I was laying on the couch today when this came over last.fm and blew > my mind. It's a 20 minute free jazz work out that visits Steve Reich, > Ronald Shannon Jackson as well as Tortoise and Mogwai and a nod here > and there to Miles 70s work. Lovely, if you give it time. Doesn't > really hit its stride until the 10 minute mark. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeOOdNLIAo2g > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba1eff4ab1cfa904a56c4af1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can fill in a bit of background here.

Both of these Norwegian band= s are considered "serious" musician bands, but from widely varyin= g backgrounds. Motorpsycho have been around for about 15 years, are form Tr= ondheim, and started as quite experimental "noise-rock". Infact t= hey used to have a non-musician member of the band playing noise and sounds= . He went on to get the first ever PhD in "Noise" here in Norway = and is now more known as Helge Sten or the main man behind Supersilent. Mot= erpsycho progressed to be a little more mainstream, but always considered c= lever and accomplished. I have seen tham play 3 times and they have always = been phenomenal. Infact the first time Cranes played in Norway, we borrowed= al their amps and drums, and the band introduced us to illegal home made s= pirit.

Jaga Jazzist are based around the Hjortvedt Brothers, and are a bit too= Jazz for me personally, but I have seen them live a few times and they are= an immpressive ensemble of about 8 to 10 musicians, combining jazz with el= ectronics. they=B4re sound is characterised my a quite calm and laid back J= azz overlyed with the aggressive and hyperactive Drum and Bass of the drumm= er Martin Hjortvedt. They have done more than any other single band in prom= oting new and exiting jazz in Norway, resulting in excellent funding for bo= th jazz and experimental outfits.

This album caused quite a stir here when it came out, no one even knew = these two monsters knew each other... I bought it immediatly, and its not f= or me, but WOW how I respect all these guys...=A0 all of them have thriving= careers in film-music and TV soundtracks and commissioning works for festi= vals here in Norway and rightly so.


Mark




On Sat, Jun 11, = 2011 at 7:04 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
I was laying on the couch today when this came over last.fm and blew
my mind. It's a 20 minute free jazz work out that visits Steve Reich, Ronald Shannon Jackson as well as Tortoise and Mogwai and a nod here
and there to Miles 70s work. Lovely, if you give it time. Doesn't
really hit its stride until the 10 minute mark.
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeOOdNLIAo2g
--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon




--
M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba1eff4ab1cfa904a56c4af1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 09:37:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADD41183473; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w0s9F7N15uCv+S2H6KWphenzLqpQlHSdwqewl/bymjM=; b=Dspm2Jht96BCXW8IoDHg6gvZ7KDE8pNeg7pOSdriC3ThsM8hDeOIeaKj7PLIRrEA0J 8ge98uhfZYfOCZ5JXn9KnNltfw67kc2ix7Ca8HPhsSJsyrt9H5CJ7wtflUDLC6ykSMyE hhsLXlK47BywQkRNgx4bPW7GxmH3y1lSbWDRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ll7hj8w/feMcOXZw+LNmc5+8O4Sil3/1y8/jt4Ce9piXgG9CvaBdeGiuttMGEq+Fgb sPLNaMV/zxZSfhpqHZRyIZvKsrzv5UrqPY4KRmUwjfvvwaP0SSMJFrawTyfsUwCctwQZ 08a4zRaTwQb/HjylmKfCbc5q3fMga9vMm2ZFM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:37:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Motorpsycho & Jaga Jazzist Horns "Tristano" From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 398 Lines: 13 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Art Simon wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOOdNLIAo2g Wow, super! Both are my longtime favorite band of Norway! Especially Motorphyscho. Great write-up by Mark :-) How weird that this YouTube file only have 17 views and no comments. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 09:40:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A7FD83BE2; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:40:32 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20110611094032.86460@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Motu Audio Express Firewire/USB interface To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/23DkAL4v2wFMcdsOKcR9sDVOJro34nV/2ZVpmtH ga+Q6JEcMV9Wj34tyOB6nRwyHoThU0Ebmucg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: R12BbaJAeSEqUch4kHUhdTl+IGRvb8CJ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 542 Lines: 15 Hi folks there was a discussion on audio interface recently. I don't remember if this interface was mentioned: MOTU Audio Express 6x6 Firewire/USB interface http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/audio-express/ I have the Motu Ultralite, but if not I'd consider this. I think this is a very affordable option in high quality for a solo artist who doesn't need too many inputs/outputs. best regards Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 12:59:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65F36183460; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7FA846D8-5103-42BB-B3D8-4869A71B41C7@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-924986655 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Mobius and FBC1010 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:59:44 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa02b; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:59:44 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 8812 Lines: 151 --Apple-Mail-11-924986655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm an extreme newbie with my newly acquired FCB1010 (and Mobius). I have been trying to set it up with Mobius. I found what looks like a dynamite lesson on how to do it: (http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2010/02/22/looping-lesson-programming-the-behringer-fcb1010-for-use-with-mobius-live-looping-software/ ) but I've run into a snag in the Mobius setup part. I can follow along the video until I get about a third in, at the point where he is setting up Mobius -> Configuration -> MIDI Control, then my window looks different from his. His says Default Configuration and mine says Common Bindings. I can't change mine, there are no other options. I also have a menu strip on the right hand half of my screen saying: Functions, Scripts, Controls, Parameters, Configurations. Clicking any of those, while changing the little window in center-right, does nothing for the left half of the screen. I expect he has a different version of Mobius. I'm using 1.43. TIA Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-11-924986655 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm an extreme newbie = with my newly acquired FCB1010 (and Mobius). 
I have = been trying to set it up with Mobius. I found what looks like a dynamite = lesson on how to do it: (http://= www.notreble.com/buzz/2010/02/22/looping-lesson-programming-the-behringer-= fcb1010-for-use-with-mobius-live-looping-software/) but I've run = into a snag in the Mobius setup part. I can follow along the video = until I get about a third in, at the point where he is setting up Mobius = -> Configuration -> MIDI Control, then my window looks different = from his. His says Default Configuration and mine says Common Bindings. = I can't change mine, there are no other options. I also have a menu = strip on the right hand half of my screen saying: Functions, Scripts, = Controls, Parameters, Configurations. Clicking any of those, while = changing the little window in center-right, does nothing for the left = half of the screen. I expect he has a different version of Mobius. I'm = using 1.43.
TIA


= --Apple-Mail-11-924986655-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 13:05:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BC4D183489; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fGgaTaKexoXVH3wfSmhOl/PMWsnfWVPCUzw0sVHAyww=; b=Nh/yAZRsUvS45ygtypt4Oc3yLBUPxnMRR+rPVt24Hcz5+OkJcR6OQ9XJaA83cKNL1j W5ab5xeWLNGfPKcPIzHuSB7I4OMNuGaaMFnIvEfL5F3oAMn3lbdT/zBPjwkg/JyqVA7m 2iaEzVLmdTQndLnr0gexK5F/FzSNu1uqyW7sE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=mlUhFpyWPsZAMU9FnpNLfqnZKWA0F5N1kr+3o+jByikvWqN0837Bee5cNf84K6yMmb +Odq8KsF2uUiCQtLdQxfYuIBIY4cCYoWW9h3iJEgU3CdGoejDEMzvRdu0zbdFK293PHj cXrF13Wf0r92UjW1oK5IYL6EbsYIUa0KqQt7k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7FA846D8-5103-42BB-B3D8-4869A71B41C7@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <7FA846D8-5103-42BB-B3D8-4869A71B41C7@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:05:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius and FBC1010 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf11c853536904a56f56b0 Resent-Message-ID: <4iYhoB.A.VsC.Lg28NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1278 Lines: 31 --000e0cdf11c853536904a56f56b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes, the layout changed slightly with 1.43 check here for how to do it - http://www.circularlabs.com/newdoc/starting.htm#Controlling%20Mobius On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > I expect he has a different version of Mobius. I'm using 1.43. > > --000e0cdf11c853536904a56f56b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, the layout changed slightly with 1.43

check here fo= r how to do it -=A0http://www.circularlabs.com/newdoc/starting.htm#Co= ntrolling%20Mobius

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ed Durbrow = <edurbrow@= sea.plala.or.jp> wrote:
=A0I expect he has a different ver= sion of Mobius. I'm using 1.43.


--000e0cdf11c853536904a56f56b0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 15:21:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FC529BDDD; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=m5rob60BnEQA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=_3vleqh5NJ4BSpgsZKwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <4059468E-381C-4A77-AE99-AA2C10A07C7F@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Motorpsycho & Jaga Jazzist Horns "Tristano" Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:21:17 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 540 Lines: 16 Great stuff that! Will have to check out more. On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Art Simon wrote: > I was laying on the couch today when this came over last.fm and blew > my mind. It's a 20 minute free jazz work out that visits Steve Reich, > Ronald Shannon Jackson as well as Tortoise and Mogwai and a nod here > and there to Miles 70s work. Lovely, if you give it time. Doesn't > really hit its stride until the 10 minute mark. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOOdNLIAo2g > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 15:39:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BC0E83C13; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-304-934595534 Subject: Re: Teasing Time Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:39:53 -0700 In-Reply-To: <467776.53109.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <467776.53109.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <45D54AE7-6754-4D0F-94BF-AA7FEA38DF92@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <3YQvyC.A.XBE.Nx48NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 5541 Lines: 113 --Apple-Mail-304-934595534 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been tempted to put together a DD-20 followed by an SL-20 to do = long ambient loops that can then be rhythmatized, but having an M13, it = seems like a better choice just to stick with that unless someone can = convince me that the SL-20 is too amazing to pass up particularly given = that the M13 supports half-speed and reverse. (In the new, smaller pedal = board I am attempting to put together, I'm tempted to replace the M13 = which sits separately right now with an M9 that sits on the board.) Mark On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:45 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > use modulation on a filter with a set pulse and with subdivisions, it = induces a sense of tempo >=20 > Antony Hequet >=20 > From: Phil Clevenger > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 2:21:26 AM > Subject: Teasing Time >=20 > Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time subdivisions from a = very =3D > long delay of indeterminate length? >=20 > I'm moving from long ambient sound on sound stuff into more rhythmic = stuff =3D > without changing the delay setting. No clock driving the time and no = readou=3D > t on this particular device of delay duration. It's just set for = "really re=3D > ally long" ;) >=20 > I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing what falls = out =3D > of it, but that can take some time and sometimes is not so pretty... >=20 > Phil :) >=20 --Apple-Mail-304-934595534 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

use modulation on a filter = with a set pulse and with subdivisions, it induces  a sense of = tempo

Antony Hequet
From: Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com><= br>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Sat, = June 11, 2011 2:21:26 AM
 Teasing = Time

Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time = subdivisions from a very =3D
long delay of indeterminate = length?

I'm moving from long ambient sound on sound stuff into = more rhythmic stuff =3D
without changing the delay setting. No clock = driving the time and no readou=3D
t on this particular device of = delay duration. It's just set for "really re=3D
ally long" = ;)

I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing = what falls out =3D
of it, but that can take some time and sometimes = is not so pretty...

Phil :)

> ally long" ;) >>=20 >> I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing what = falls out =3D >> of it, but that can take some time and sometimes is not so pretty... >>=20 >> Phil :) >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-305-935294859 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I've been tempted to put = together a DD-20 followed by an SL-20 to do long ambient loops that can = then be rhythmatized, but having an M13, it seems like a better choice = just to stick with that unless someone can convince me that the SL-20 is = too amazing to pass up particularly given that the M13 supports = half-speed and reverse. (In the new, smaller pedal board I am attempting = to put together, I'm tempted to replace the M13 which sits separately = right now with an M9 that sits on the = board.)

Mark

On Jun 10, = 2011, at 11:45 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

use modulation on a filter = with a set pulse and with subdivisions, it induces  a sense of = tempo

Antony Hequet
From: Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com><= br>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Sat, = June 11, 2011 2:21:26 AM
 Teasing = Time

Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time = subdivisions from a very =3D
long delay of indeterminate = length?

I'm moving from long ambient sound on sound stuff into = more rhythmic stuff =3D
without changing the delay setting. No clock = driving the time and no readou=3D
t on this particular device of = delay duration. It's just set for "really re=3D
ally long" = ;)

I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing = what falls out =3D
of it, but that can take some time and sometimes = is not so pretty...

Phil :)


What did you think of the sound/tone though?

andy

ah the subjective question.........I thought it had some decent tones, like i said I barely scratched the surface when I first tried it , but in general I like the vox/korg sound design stuff,
Bill
--Apple-Mail-1-936226323-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 17:13:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEA011835BB; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mxYaddX3/hvUJDkawJ3mmOrwVR+eZFmWCmZR4GkPO0A=; b=JucSSuU5QiCvk6RimXogdTfHhIo3juHYCLiL+es8DE28VnwvVZmglDLpsN+/lYXWfh 1hH921a8sHfrwm3jQWYnu/WJIdQNrWR81IWit6X/KCq+CPKFpY+Hbd95KKxKjW1b+/dK bK2hzcWB1TLR3Q5UFid7g51b/qAsel72Gg6do= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oITRRmjaboO1NuKopGHYBaga6o/YSb8Ewie1fmcijUJ6xFDqQzI0yFXTDzhCq9Cy4G qd6kNaLv+w7Rh/8Lf484WZvgVgA1Sb/82SCL0WfJbzm5LLvqsKtVLc6RwEDmcKl5rsLJ Ux7bYH7yLSY3OIbYDOYOYeDK1p6lobYXy45oU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:13:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Motorpsycho & Jaga Jazzist Horns "Tristano" From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2661 Lines: 86 Thanks Mark for the background, very cool! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:26 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > I can fill in a bit of background here. > > Both of these Norwegian bands are considered "serious" musician bands, bu= t > from widely varying backgrounds. Motorpsycho have been around for about 1= 5 > years, are form Trondheim, and started as quite experimental "noise-rock"= . > Infact they used to have a non-musician member of the band playing noise = and > sounds. He went on to get the first ever PhD in "Noise" here in Norway an= d > is now more known as Helge Sten or the main man behind Supersilent. > Moterpsycho progressed to be a little more mainstream, but always conside= red > clever and accomplished. I have seen tham play 3 times and they have alwa= ys > been phenomenal. Infact the first time Cranes played in Norway, we borrow= ed > al their amps and drums, and the band introduced us to illegal home made > spirit. > > Jaga Jazzist are based around the Hjortvedt Brothers, and are a bit too J= azz > for me personally, but I have seen them live a few times and they are an > immpressive ensemble of about 8 to 10 musicians, combining jazz with > electronics. they=B4re sound is characterised my a quite calm and laid ba= ck > Jazz overlyed with the aggressive and hyperactive Drum and Bass of the > drummer Martin Hjortvedt. They have done more than any other single band = in > promoting new and exiting jazz in Norway, resulting in excellent funding = for > both jazz and experimental outfits. > > This album caused quite a stir here when it came out, no one even knew th= ese > two monsters knew each other... I bought it immediatly, and its not for m= e, > but WOW how I respect all these guys...=A0 all of them have thriving care= ers > in film-music and TV soundtracks and commissioning works for festivals he= re > in Norway and rightly so. > > > Mark > > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> >> I was laying on the couch today when this came over last.fm and blew >> my mind. It's a 20 minute free jazz work out that visits Steve Reich, >> Ronald Shannon Jackson as well as Tortoise and Mogwai and a nod here >> and there to Miles 70s work. Lovely, if you give it time. Doesn't >> really hit its stride until the 10 minute mark. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeOOdNLIAo2g >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 18:03:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDE2F1835BD; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QHGTn66ryxdsdvpwil3OtTlaF/OLJ+4t9BukN7PSVVo=; b=r7/97+x5eMDQBR2bc++9iQPHJN/iIL7PhnVfuLD2z6H4kGtx8IFKWCOzuEkNj3GoWW IYJsrDf2erkNh2wr4t2cm8GJcM/K6Q4PzwQKmF2+8yAg8WmajaE6Fsd9HsmgrsCw0WPq dpY2VRs7SCxRHs+OCVv1hJH5cN9d8STCc2/cU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=D4XHUJ115c6thQXRfj9tOb/RY1eI4n2kR9IaWVPJlhiDzZAIo+zDpKkodjvKg75v7+ Xc5UwL4CGNyKn09b/07nS/1/JmaJT9EDitS6jZBCKV08ElfhztvRor+7BRYvrkUhBYl8 J/OSfL/uBdfKKGATNzt8HXSqsx0zIRzE9NGas= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:03:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Rick Walker live on Tedx via Livestream From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec547c9d36b7ccf04a5738185 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 802 Lines: 24 --bcaec547c9d36b7ccf04a5738185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am not sure but here is the schedule http://www.tedxsantacruz.org/engage/speakers/ and here is the Livestream channel http://www.livestream.com/tedx So kudos to Rick once again! I hope they broadcast him. J --bcaec547c9d36b7ccf04a5738185 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not sure but here is the schedule

http://www.tedxsantacruz.org/engage/speakers/<= /a>

and here is the Livestream channel http://www.livestream.com/tedx

So kudos to Rick once again! I hope they broadcast him.

J
--bcaec547c9d36b7ccf04a5738185-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 18:10:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE4CF1835BD; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uhtP/VmPwuNeB1FUbmKC5sTGwR4fyum8v/dnX1L5XJI=; b=nJyX1nUKHFct4xslNCx6tDWSwHeIjMUe0o8ixAwBsZVDt+zuq4fdh6jPDRk3ZQNv2G laJHxPtwXnt2dNX2RtxxpNSez+MhURrs0ib39cQrl8e2/GHOifJ4+MJd7JMG/H+x+PvN PYBqEgut+6WQUZG+DvyBUZ8jeieASdpwOG2bU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iLG3HDjJBUSbchmotahTN7Vt5s+Yx7ygp809ACpNmeyG2Dr8cvSYXZaeqRcxSQuKhf 1N61Yshj3UsOK+N6jXIGv3bSyIMjeEJ7QCzLDi4QcA5uNsG8J/51jkLtSx0K42pnF1P9 ieWDsLijvy9BdYtt+x0yb3lxhQRJgrR4jWScs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:10:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Tedx and RW From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfd8270614d04a5739a18 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 461 Lines: 14 --20cf307cfd8270614d04a5739a18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My address was incorrect here is the right one: http://www.livestream.com/tedxsc The other was for Houston --20cf307cfd8270614d04a5739a18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 My address was incorrect here is the right one: http://www.livestream.com/tedxsc

The other was for Houston
--20cf307cfd8270614d04a5739a18-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 18:40:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 041241835BD; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Boomerang III quick review Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:40:13 -0700 Message-Id: <715D220A-9967-4DB7-A70F-0A7C860CED90@grubmah.com> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1650 Lines: 32 I've been playing with Boomerang III for a little over an hour now, so = this is not a terribly deep review. The size and build of the thing are great. The switches are really nice. = 3 stereo loops with a lot of playing styles is fun and it's easy to = start thinking in terms of song structures using the various serial loop = options. It's nice to have all of the key knobs for things like loop = volume and decay (feedback) on the front panel. I haven't really been able to evaluate sound quality in depth. It = doesn't seem to have obvious problems. I'm not loving it's octave down = as much as the Line6 looper's. I'm not sure why. It may just be the = material I put in, but it sounded a bit thinner than I expected. Maybe = I'm just not in an octave down mood this morning. It does so much that the bonus buttons only access part of the = functionality and can feel a little overloaded. The forthcoming sidecar = may make that better though it won't be as compact then. Even so, I = found it pretty easy to get around after skimming the manual (and it = comes with a reasonable configuration out of the box, so you don't = really have to read that much of the manual in order to get going). And now for the one real annoyance... If you want to record seamless = loops, you really want a way to go straight into overdub (stack on the = Boomerang) when recording. You can do this, but it's a bit of a foot = dance at the very time you are potentially trying to focus on what you = are playing. This is much easier on the Line6 loopers, the Looperlative, = and the EDP. Did I mention how compact this thing is for the amount it does? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 19:03:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A255183634; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+4580iDsrgFqzvxut+7jsixmmWB6g9OqT9PSRjb6/i4=; b=Dy8x+3xqpLsvYmB+Qco6mmlRtzWd2d9r/9IQWyxAlg4wJ3y3hk1JVtcv0PdsUUb0g/ 6vKYe4JngWfDKu7Awl82f244XVZJXtqpW3iyEdH5k5dthbXPI+T5bXbjotStWCgfvEYI gcedOMWQ6YDCi0mX+2c2cXFkVEHDDPIO4w/a0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=luhk9IMqx+k/7SvSyMToxwXAwYcAab/k0MfBn9LrbyFBHjBHbGF7DUvkYI7T5E7hh5 M6SNXzXNMKeIJ8hczPkkbYO8XZ6RHPKDn9lRMh6Ejg7mZVIEkPBULnNTWr5ut1QVeAnY r8crf0tWqcNXdgCFCdR0Y0Z48+yzACMqRlX0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:03:17 +0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Instrumental looping covers for simple loopers From: Boris Plotnikov To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 99 Lines: 5 Also check The Rolling Stones - Terrifying, great tune for loopings. -- Thanks, Boris Plotnikov From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 19:08:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70CCC183999; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=hglFTD5v+QO/hKDcHJKQknG5InaKfotfvXu0TovweKk=; b=JRwWW3ootEs7w4lMAx+Az0eLuRgcnWmgenOxLpxJusqdFtj207fwBpdT38u+n9huWH ML2YQsPXDUZxtP2i/O4wulLSvC7DYk3D2UZLEu6QB+lNi+aVLGWuYGIhvWFpuDiCdY7e g0/T32o5s6vyTiyghu464dh534AGFM7r5/Was= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=OP247dom19A4mLMO+u/ujpXB+VcFxx4dUEcGgr/qLkjv5Z5sP9YpNn++2ronnOZC0A AvAuCM2nyrmHh4zm18MuRuqgzA84wUhUY0Wln9F4JONdPxNWeXwIy39Bqdvl4NiP+m+G 3m6PKv8HSgLrtWjPJ0xzpx1JWCoE5cTu2rLng= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <715D220A-9967-4DB7-A70F-0A7C860CED90@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:08:39 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <715D220A-9967-4DB7-A70F-0A7C860CED90@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2763 Lines: 54 I agree with you Mark. When I had the Boomerang that's the one thing = that really bothered me. You can't go straight into overdub after you = finish the first loop. You can can tap the stack button before the loop = end point (If you created a short loop on loop3 to set the tempo) but it = is too much tap dancing or at least my music suffered when I'm quickly = trying to press stack and play my instrument. Would be nice if you could = set it up to go straight into stack mode after establishing the loop. I = also noticed that if I left it in stack mode and switched between = loops1-3 I would get clicks and pops. This was even if I wasn't playing = anything on my instrument. I solved both of these issues by using Mobius = in software land but then I gained all the issues of using a computer:) = Would be pretty awesome if these things could be worked out on the = boomerang. It would be a perfect compact looper for my serial style = looping. On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I've been playing with Boomerang III for a little over an hour now, so = this is not a terribly deep review. >=20 > The size and build of the thing are great. The switches are really = nice. 3 stereo loops with a lot of playing styles is fun and it's easy = to start thinking in terms of song structures using the various serial = loop options. It's nice to have all of the key knobs for things like = loop volume and decay (feedback) on the front panel. >=20 > I haven't really been able to evaluate sound quality in depth. It = doesn't seem to have obvious problems. I'm not loving it's octave down = as much as the Line6 looper's. I'm not sure why. It may just be the = material I put in, but it sounded a bit thinner than I expected. Maybe = I'm just not in an octave down mood this morning. >=20 > It does so much that the bonus buttons only access part of the = functionality and can feel a little overloaded. The forthcoming sidecar = may make that better though it won't be as compact then. Even so, I = found it pretty easy to get around after skimming the manual (and it = comes with a reasonable configuration out of the box, so you don't = really have to read that much of the manual in order to get going). >=20 > And now for the one real annoyance... If you want to record seamless = loops, you really want a way to go straight into overdub (stack on the = Boomerang) when recording. You can do this, but it's a bit of a foot = dance at the very time you are potentially trying to focus on what you = are playing. This is much easier on the Line6 loopers, the Looperlative, = and the EDP. >=20 > Did I mention how compact this thing is for the amount it does? >=20 > Mark >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 21:18:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE2AF18372B; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Teasing Time From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <8D4A8103-FEAC-4BEA-826D-3CA36C681492@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:18:47 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <17EEFABE-CF7E-4AD6-A41D-787AA690CAD3@grubmah.com> References: <467776.53109.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <45D54AE7-6754-4D0F-94BF-AA7FEA38DF92@grubmah.com> <6DE3DAD0-841A-4C3F-8ABB-3ECA05020D52@grubmah.com> <8D4A8103-FEAC-4BEA-826D-3CA36C681492@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 391 Lines: 13 On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> Can anyone recommend a good parallel effects loop box that isn't = going to cost more than the effects it is surrounding? >=20 > And stereo, please (just to make things more complicated). T-Rex Stereo AB Switch. ($99) And then a small mixer somewhere down the = signal path. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 21:19:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8E17183730; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=q9Zsws0cDxYft7fkAsZwOda0iSKUuuEhtABbqyxJZTMEka4PryYF4P8U3YKVGV67; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:19:35 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd522c4e4415ad6530e877312abb8f799fa1c690bf44bd16fae350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.37 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1281 Lines: 5 >I agree with you Mark. When I had the Boomerang that's the one thing that really bothered me. You can't go straight >into overdub after you finish the first loop. You can can tap the stack button before the loop end point (If you >created a short loop on loop3 to set the tempo) but it is too much tap dancing or at least my music suffered when I'm >quickly trying to press stack and play my instrument. Would be nice if you could set it up to go straight into stack >mode after establishing the loop. I also noticed that if I left it in stack mode and switched between loops1-3 I >would get clicks and pops. This was even if I wasn't playing anything on my instrument. I solved both of these issues >by using Mobius in software land but then I gained all the issues of using a computer:) Would be pretty awesome if >these things could be worked out on the boomerang. It would be a perfect compact looper for my serial style looping. I believe you can press Stack anytime while a loop is recording (with or without a master loop) and stacking will begin on that loop when you end recording (Serial style). If you get a click it might be because you have it set for seamless stacking (for drones) and this overides the loop boundry smoothing. Just some things to check or try. G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 21:33:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA8B118372F; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:33:38 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> References: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To: Grant , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2897 Lines: 64 On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Grant wrote: >> I agree with you Mark. When I had the Boomerang that's the one thing = that really bothered me. You can't go straight >into overdub after you = finish the first loop. You can can tap the stack button before the loop = end point (If you >created a short loop on loop3 to set the tempo) but = it is too much tap dancing or at least my music suffered when I'm = >quickly trying to press stack and play my instrument. Would be nice if = you could set it up to go straight into stack >mode after establishing = the loop. I also noticed that if I left it in stack mode and switched = between loops1-3 I >would get clicks and pops. This was even if I wasn't = playing anything on my instrument. I solved both of these issues >by = using Mobius in software land but then I gained all the issues of using = a computer:) Would be pretty awesome if >these things could be worked = out on the boomerang. It would be a perfect compact looper for my serial = style looping. >=20 > I believe you can press Stack anytime while a loop is recording (with = or without a master loop) and stacking will begin on that loop when you = end recording (Serial style). If you get a click it might be because you = have it set for seamless stacking (for drones) and this overides the = loop boundry smoothing. Just some things to check or try. You can indeed press stack while recording. That's where the tap-dance = part comes in. Loop N switch to start recording Stack (possibly a hold if you use the default configuration) Loop N switch to finish loop and start stacking Stack to stop stacking Contrast this to Line 6, the Looperlative, etc: Rec/Dub --> Recording Rec/Dub --> Overdubbing Rec/Dub --> Playing Or to the EDP: Record --> Recording Overdub --> Overdubbing (and note that overdub is the next = switch over) Overdub --> Playing I'm trying to convince Mike Nelson that you should be able to finish = recording with a hold and have the loop length set based on the button = down point but it would stack at decay 0 (feedback 100%) until you = released the button. If you really want to do the Frippertronic ever = evolving loop thing, you would still want to use the stack button = behavior, but for a simple "keep the delay tails" loop closure this = would work. The mockups of the forthcoming sidecar has a dedicated stack button = which one could argue should exit recording and go into stacking if one = was recording. Then you could use it just like the EDP. Returning to what the Boomerang does as opposed to what it doesn't do. = I've played some more and I've done some more half-speed work and I'm = now quite happy with the sound quality. So, except for it being too hard = to go from record into overdub, this is proving to be a great box. (Did = I mention how small it is and how solid it feels and how great the = switches are?) Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 21:35:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1328C183736; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=3yCQ3LA3TyhOH3xj1fAC91oNa3AnuNsD5Y+VCL2pl38=; b=m2vySKCjYD33nUpg646rdoGrgXlZEnAzpidYd/S1o3OCgurPr+XSZq/AeFBGpVqFOu 5lwPNndhxch4NPRZ/TxoNxmiSS6O598fhIcZy0oCG2sLMho/B6oclzwSOag9CFQ3BMxn FC0cw9WgE9pNtPVqp0jLIZmKuybN75Ch4EBS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=swXzjdrW5saI0P5Zc+9aExhMABLOZvmtcd3v/Zll6qLTIsA2opRNHPHzhPi5du7Drf 7otNgmlpDbnuXI/V3e+odevs3q5wugVZlkgVFaeZs72q4fxMc53o66F7M55qTCayJBFs f75g1FI+9VbxZPo+l/50ajhIZ2H/PB7CngyQo= Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:35:34 -0700 Cc: Grant Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <76B70766-D5CA-494F-A93F-B14688DD086F@gmail.com> References: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 3085 Lines: 76 Mark, Will it fit into your rack? ;) Phil :) On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Grant wrote: >=20 >>> I agree with you Mark. When I had the Boomerang that's the one thing = that really bothered me. You can't go straight >into overdub after you = finish the first loop. You can can tap the stack button before the loop = end point (If you >created a short loop on loop3 to set the tempo) but = it is too much tap dancing or at least my music suffered when I'm = >quickly trying to press stack and play my instrument. Would be nice if = you could set it up to go straight into stack >mode after establishing = the loop. I also noticed that if I left it in stack mode and switched = between loops1-3 I >would get clicks and pops. This was even if I wasn't = playing anything on my instrument. I solved both of these issues >by = using Mobius in software land but then I gained all the issues of using = a computer:) Would be pretty awesome if >these things could be worked = out on the boomerang. It would be a perfect compact looper for my serial = style looping. >>=20 >> I believe you can press Stack anytime while a loop is recording (with = or without a master loop) and stacking will begin on that loop when you = end recording (Serial style). If you get a click it might be because you = have it set for seamless stacking (for drones) and this overides the = loop boundry smoothing. Just some things to check or try. >=20 > You can indeed press stack while recording. That's where the tap-dance = part comes in. >=20 > Loop N switch to start recording > Stack (possibly a hold if you use the default configuration) > Loop N switch to finish loop and start stacking > Stack to stop stacking >=20 > Contrast this to Line 6, the Looperlative, etc: >=20 > Rec/Dub --> Recording > Rec/Dub --> Overdubbing > Rec/Dub --> Playing >=20 > Or to the EDP: >=20 > Record --> Recording > Overdub --> Overdubbing (and note that overdub is the next = switch over) > Overdub --> Playing >=20 > I'm trying to convince Mike Nelson that you should be able to finish = recording with a hold and have the loop length set based on the button = down point but it would stack at decay 0 (feedback 100%) until you = released the button. If you really want to do the Frippertronic ever = evolving loop thing, you would still want to use the stack button = behavior, but for a simple "keep the delay tails" loop closure this = would work. >=20 > The mockups of the forthcoming sidecar has a dedicated stack button = which one could argue should exit recording and go into stacking if one = was recording. Then you could use it just like the EDP. >=20 > Returning to what the Boomerang does as opposed to what it doesn't do. = I've played some more and I've done some more half-speed work and I'm = now quite happy with the sound quality. So, except for it being too hard = to go from record into overdub, this is proving to be a great box. (Did = I mention how small it is and how solid it feels and how great the = switches are?) >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 21:44:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6C18183737; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=x5fI8PA1OaidN8dnQAWVgtNFyq1nBlZhfuFyzHecZGM=; b=oqqFkDZcbKMl0Bm9p+0+g0yvCkWoSaETPKFCGmwoKHAqkNK8IBxcx4MVZSPaz69ahy /RXy3ZbUEgKNTrJLh5e+kQ7XzrMwKlG9dLejPXoH5JTNzH7RdpWL49aaiY/MX+Sq8rxp 9GFPxvnKitrRh5AvgP7z9QWeiFU/FIVRndH6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=KhWhlJnj/8M959gSzefdQEGgn+xsi9nBYEVBTUb3k0T4f3+eRwhSFEpEUJmG3sYLES XAx6dWw8qpLpaoWHLKJmAJaWENNzt/o4Ma+5D6aeaoSU9x/w8fBhsWBHkoWMVQchucZB Nt1NmNhGKQ4CJPltJkUU3BmKz+c3tFDCPRRcU= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24-956459196 Subject: Re: Teasing Time Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:44:17 -0700 In-Reply-To: <45D54AE7-6754-4D0F-94BF-AA7FEA38DF92@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <467776.53109.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <45D54AE7-6754-4D0F-94BF-AA7FEA38DF92@grubmah.com> Message-Id: <8377E204-549D-415D-B40F-0855821724FC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 7469 Lines: 150 --Apple-Mail-24-956459196 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for the suggestions - these seem be of a more explicit, = "introduce some arbitrary tempo" kind... I was rather wondering if = anyone had developed any zen-ninja math or mental techniques for = inferring subdivisions of the loop length on the fly... there are some = smart folks on this list after all... but I suspect the answer to the = riddle is, as it is so often, "practice, practice, practice." The unit I am currently playing with is the Pigtronix Echolution (which = I am really liking btw) - with it, one can mangle the loop after the = fact, including introducing regular subdivisions... so perhaps playing = with these for awhile will enhance my ability to intuit subdivisions = from long loops... will see :) Phil :) On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I've been tempted to put together a DD-20 followed by an SL-20 to do = long ambient loops that can then be rhythmatized, but having an M13, it = seems like a better choice just to stick with that unless someone can = convince me that the SL-20 is too amazing to pass up particularly given = that the M13 supports half-speed and reverse. (In the new, smaller pedal = board I am attempting to put together, I'm tempted to replace the M13 = which sits separately right now with an M9 that sits on the board.) >=20 > Mark >=20 > On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:45 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >=20 >> use modulation on a filter with a set pulse and with subdivisions, it = induces a sense of tempo >>=20 >> Antony Hequet >>=20 >> From: Phil Clevenger >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 2:21:26 AM >> Subject: Teasing Time >>=20 >> Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time subdivisions from a = very =3D >> long delay of indeterminate length? >>=20 >> I'm moving from long ambient sound on sound stuff into more rhythmic = stuff =3D >> without changing the delay setting. No clock driving the time and no = readou=3D >> t on this particular device of delay duration. It's just set for = "really re=3D >> ally long" ;) >>=20 >> I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing what = falls out =3D >> of it, but that can take some time and sometimes is not so pretty... >>=20 >> Phil :) >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-24-956459196 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
The unit I am currently playing with is = the Pigtronix Echolution (which I am really liking btw) - with it, one = can mangle the loop after the fact, including introducing regular = subdivisions... so perhaps playing with these for awhile will enhance my = ability to intuit subdivisions from long loops... will see = :)

Phil = :)


On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:39 AM, = Mark Hamburg wrote:

I've been tempted to put = together a DD-20 followed by an SL-20 to do long ambient loops that can = then be rhythmatized, but having an M13, it seems like a better choice = just to stick with that unless someone can convince me that the SL-20 is = too amazing to pass up particularly given that the M13 supports = half-speed and reverse. (In the new, smaller pedal board I am attempting = to put together, I'm tempted to replace the M13 which sits separately = right now with an M9 that sits on the = board.)

Mark

On Jun 10, = 2011, at 11:45 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

use modulation on a filter = with a set pulse and with subdivisions, it induces  a sense of = tempo

Antony Hequet
From: Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com><= br>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Sat, = June 11, 2011 2:21:26 AM
 Teasing = Time

Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time = subdivisions from a very =3D
long delay of indeterminate = length?

I'm moving from long ambient sound on sound stuff into = more rhythmic stuff =3D
without changing the delay setting. No clock = driving the time and no readou=3D
t on this particular device of = delay duration. It's just set for "really re=3D
ally long" = ;)

I've been doing it by just creating a busy field and seeing = what falls out =3D
of it, but that can take some time and sometimes = is not so pretty...

Phil :)

=20 > The mockups of the forthcoming sidecar has a dedicated stack button = which one could argue should exit recording and go into stacking if one = was recording. Then you could use it just like the EDP. >=20 > Returning to what the Boomerang does as opposed to what it doesn't do. = I've played some more and I've done some more half-speed work and I'm = now quite happy with the sound quality. So, except for it being too hard = to go from record into overdub, this is proving to be a great box. (Did = I mention how small it is and how solid it feels and how great the = switches are?) >=20 > Mark >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 23:43:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAF98183729; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <3D103918-182A-4680-844C-3131412DF23D@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:43:31 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F2FC2CB-F10B-40F4-9D61-BBE6BE391C55@grubmah.com> References: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> <3D103918-182A-4680-844C-3131412DF23D@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:43:34 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Yes, thanks for explaining it better than I could Mark. I did know = that you can press stack while recording but that involves the tap = dancing while your trying to lay down,let's say, a rhythmically = accurate loop. I did have it set for seemless loop boundaries as well = because I would always hear this fade in/out otherwise, when playing a = bowed string instrument. It was unusable for me without that feature. I = also wish the boomerang could be set to loop like this: >> Rec/Dub --> Recording >> Rec/Dub --> Overdubbing >> Rec/Dub --> Playing I think the Boomerang III's multitrack phrase sampler orientation pushes = it toward having the pedals cycle as Record -> Play -> Stop -> Play -> = Stop -> ... It would probably be difficult to explain Record -> Overdub -> Play -> = Stop -> Play -> Stop -> ... and inserting overdub into the cycle then = leaves one without a good way to stop the loop. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 11 23:55:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E9FD18372B; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version :subject:date:x-mailer; bh=QAgxRZ59F8dfywVQpKWzfbYYzCsGuWHlCwuLg2odcUM=; b=fgPyhI8FBbk5rPfNfRdDnUXWzZHFmG3k8mv6BYklx71l4tLHSW6lnIzDk/kROeoy4l rfjjCLWOC6UTcGYXTQ8RSpds+AQQghtgjjmyAyZHFYsxVe6yK1USxVK39d2fVC53iMSv AAiP6gkCZld303GTHCAH8hDyWuJcrrxgNfjA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=uec5MuzzR1ChPiRyakHLysxbRC839K7QBEx+AfnXd19W4MjtTtOteiGdCO8JfkLIN3 uGPPGnD+TbaBvCvfvZy95ctCizg2o8D4MPru03qnG3f1OmQ7zz7vOVw/S8ilUmNpf5ry vxW12Y7osqp9TIMoxlBQmS5z5GTDCT6t1WsLQ= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-964296539 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: welcome to the jungle Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:54:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0CoeiC.A.0VB.ZBA9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:55:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-964296539 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On carbon fiber cellos. Literally shredding, the bows. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AYEgwwCYWw via neatorama regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j --Apple-Mail-1-964296539 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On carbon fiber cellos.
Literally shredding, the bows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AYEgwwCYWw

via neatorama



regards

BobC


http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j
--Apple-Mail-1-964296539-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 01:24:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20D69183729; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=nnWYH+SLdcWg6QvkZwn6kDEiP6lxih1TFI1dNKtg1RE=; b=WaM8MrewrMfcpszOMVdE7c8sxhkofoATVHsw9Uz9rJUz0AP1c0yK6mDi97s57mlTvV NRuvnYK9QP1BDh7J0kreW5+v0LdBmkJLJlnsnNJuFqgzurYMCg4fxaBlAEqrlLq6065X SPNHc+5jnIQfvZXeNa3JK/R0U/JvjPTY8zI9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=rBKp+lZaMxlvYLs8FIANbyLjZyMei/lVmH0ea+7SHw3mVPvlpoZIRGO9Iyj9BWsdAN TC7UuARDSYz6wYyiOaUsoawUSBCQE3L3XhcQ6djBuYTdA/IvI39KuWOZgFihi8gSynt6 iDlpiPSY9RgBkxldv8EJZlMuhPexX4+YG6Smo= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <0F2FC2CB-F10B-40F4-9D61-BBE6BE391C55@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:24:26 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> <3D103918-182A-4680-844C-3131412DF23D@gmail.com> <0F2FC2CB-F10B-40F4-9D61-BBE6BE391C55@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <3ojt2.A.iNC.NVB9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:24:29 +0000 (UTC) I see your point. It doesn't really fit the flow of the rang 3. I wonder = if it ever be possible work to have the stack button be stop for the = selected loop?Then have rec-overdub-play functionality. Not a programmer = but it probably would require too much changing off the code. On Jun 11, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >=20 >> Yes, thanks for explaining it better than I could Mark. I did know = that you can press stack while recording but that involves the tap = dancing while your trying to lay down,let's say, a rhythmically = accurate loop. I did have it set for seemless loop boundaries as well = because I would always hear this fade in/out otherwise, when playing a = bowed string instrument. It was unusable for me without that feature. I = also wish the boomerang could be set to loop like this: >>> Rec/Dub --> Recording >>> Rec/Dub --> Overdubbing >>> Rec/Dub --> Playing >=20 > I think the Boomerang III's multitrack phrase sampler orientation = pushes it toward having the pedals cycle as Record -> Play -> Stop -> = Play -> Stop -> ... >=20 > It would probably be difficult to explain Record -> Overdub -> Play -> = Stop -> Play -> Stop -> ... and inserting overdub into the cycle then = leaves one without a good way to stop the loop. >=20 > Mark >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 01:33:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D1E618372A; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=Q5D8TVVV84wpZ8qb/OdnMCkfiRcLmoky6FAOXrnPXOg=; b=MD5ZwyMgamOuAdHA933vV9dd4TM3kgjftznepD3eh+feq1lUjej4kZcmYjWl5Fii+Y cBIUhk7XYZ+rjkiD7HXPkqAksMsS62fpLRguui35CTjdxzbFzB6Ot/38+jGt8xl4YjUa FL/+s8voXjPHGKbwwQ5+f98lXP8NN4YOCQ/8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=klvlLwdljVHqvzSoX9+z5aGwidpCeYZkDi1o17xLbNyWnYBqGczdvWe5cDYjdgOf90 kC27Mha3TxoVeRCpvra6lsW91LQW+0Bunhqg4UQo0jxdkCZ8EBJ/TOo0tmxPLWDwT78N BkV4+HsAjyjewvggFFP/c7vqrZeKtp8DnAGbg= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:33:50 -0400 Message-Id: <1D8CE231-B5AC-4EE1-8BC7-E3872AAB7028@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:33:53 +0000 (UTC) I was just thinking what it would be like to have a hardware looper that = had digital in and/or digital outs instead of analog. That way you get = to choose the quality of your front end but you get a device that's only = meant to do looping and do it well. Would it make it easier to build = not having to convert the audio coming in and going out? You could go = analog into something like the fireface and then use the fireface's = spdif in/outs like they are an effects loop with the digital only looper = pedal. Random Saturday night thought -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 03:24:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E69E183726; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 03:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yaKx5OQ7pEXyvK2Os1HtJ2v+7dMVmXlLqNqARgc32mQ=; b=mil1oayUJkMflgT3ZgGRejS7tNZj3NBBHOZgi5u0vQiBs6E+imXrsx096cBcr7pzOG PO0Xld7ZRB9MaaQ+LbXNycBVW6f8svmPmUOHahi+97EerLREX6hYCMRMK++YNA+PkNrc hlGUgLxu1VlEy+/WeyRZMuNFFzyxLhI9Yh3dI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JiFoqGZr9YtfMYb+0as1V6SHxu77F8TxNpnHQ0GusFdinCze7ZCxNqA+s5EmnkB2U5 9VyU6NS3OflMQs0GHccWq+kyodLZTWfq422DY0W9UjY+nqfD2uVJ++K/5lMBXCAbE6dG FsN6aSO3tilNejt6Pn6l05QT0xQNdbZ8SIHtI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <69A47ED4-00A9-45AA-9602-A21F93C6652B@baymoon.com> References: <69A47ED4-00A9-45AA-9602-A21F93C6652B@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:24:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tedx From: Lindsey Walker To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 03:24:38 +0000 (UTC) You were on the list of performers on their webpage! So many performances don't make it to recording. Congrats to both of you for contributing to an amazing forum of thought and art! Lindsey On Saturday, June 11, 2011, William Walker wrote: > I also played at TEDx today, though I was parked outside under a tent pro= viding lunch break music, mostly lapsteel, I think the only coverage I got = was =A0a few flip phones =A0and perhaps some stills., as I forgot to turn m= y own camera on, Doh!!!! it was =A0a beautiful day to be playing outside ev= en with a bit of wind. =A0The wind suits the sound of the lap steel just fi= ne. =A0It was my first =A0gig with the lap steel that Mandoman made for me.= =A0It sounded fantastic and the multi bender bridge worked great. > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 04:14:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0247218372A; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF43D09.8090800@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:14:01 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hamburg CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Teasing Time References: <45D54AE7-6754-4D0F-94BF-AA7FEA38DF92@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <45D54AE7-6754-4D0F-94BF-AA7FEA38DF92@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:14:09 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I've been tempted to put together a DD-20 followed by an SL-20 to do > long ambient loops that can then be rhythmatized, but having an M13, > it seems like a better choice just to stick with that unless someone > can convince me that the SL-20 is too amazing to pass up particularly > given that the M13 supports half-speed and reverse. They are really such different beasts and different approaches. To me, aesthetically, they are not even comparable (and the DD-20 is a really great pedal, imho, though I don't own it). I think the SL-20 is very, very hip, myself. There are also a lot of what I would call "Kotekan" rhythms in the box (thanks to Andy Butler for that term) which slice into even 'sub pulse' rhythms (or, straight 16ths or triplet 16ths) and if you use the random slicing feature with a dummy plug in one channel, the randomized left and right panning that occurs will throw out random rhythmic groupings that have a 'sub pulse' as a basis. This allows one to just listen and loop the results if you want something besides the 100 or so preset rhythms that are included in the box. Additionally it has what I wish all pedals had, a dry mix and an effected mix which can be mixed and matched. This allows one to slowly morph a rubato ambient loop, subtly into a pumping square wave styled rhythmic loop. The unit also allows for someone to change the attack fo the wave form and length of the slices which can be very, very interesting to morph a very soft feeling rhythm into a very hard , square wave rhythm. I really did the SL-2 and know nothing else that does what it does, though I also love the GIG FX Chopper pedal which does other intersting (and polyrhtyhmic) tremelos that can be mixed with pannings at different rates. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 04:42:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10BF218372B; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Fg+MinU7EIP/uuBhATMFhSkqudyEr7DZIXGC0/igO9Y=; b=JvMIeSBNW2Qc5QOwqCYyV0ebPnq7TKKSj7PP95xIUszBltpL5acWaga738YSUMoOP8 yhjb4TJJ+kCkVIs1pCRB/CKfeT9R359OA/B9co3+lv0XvRsrbxyyHVlklo9TiWUiA0AQ 5sB4ZGD+Gy9MZExq1oGhWzxeaik1pVBcWvHi8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OcATH/JhaIDRl/LoLANxlnImIKQj8HMNcR1cf1/OF2Jwog/9q2pKYXPo9HQLUnBzMQ obfwY6+ciHqYvNoh+2uLAhyQSxN1EfIbNW0P5IWz2i071z76QfR0Y5P/aA8TFImMdDVz BU72kuSgmCm7PvuJ/4o5S0Z5OqU8DjgPxKS64= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:42:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tedx and RW From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <_zdS1B.A.dIE.KPE9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Cool, I just watched Rick's talk. It starts at around 2:10:00. Nice Job Rick! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > My address was incorrect here is the right one: > http://www.livestream.com/tedxsc > > The other was for Houston > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 07:18:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D840183727; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 07:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 780065.98407.bm@omp1007.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307863132; bh=6YIa1VzZKf6VcJEAG4Zjm8v27/fZWoQCZ/UrLGvNwg8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cth2/tmXErOgR1Okl665SaEhVSh7P5oMMVhzO6zdOxUNFR+BJQKhfxYXLCSiaKltqIAGT2iOteh9FXxurROryfhUgbdKYvhOdSSvj9EFeHMAI/+TLqyS7j9NaOF8MMLaufUgFaNH2jfGibOrcqL7i6EFoEVOZ8I7cGlSFkjbPR8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4nKpUAKs4RcXj+wmyNYRfeHbGQn5iU1n5c4FhsWEtTpk2sInBs4SA1PpuOtmGV7MYlHkc7f8TmNlP2WyxiGG6ruEKyQxPy358yQuCNsac60yxFYm9RdvCJ6ccWnkA8iYKuaCvAdCQBsM2ka+3vFSKWpu3Smxt5KE/MCS9hcQszA=; Message-ID: <642688.35737.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bhBcGy4VM1nD9bw1cq7zztRJvLfAhmMrkDgCInrnZH0XAWO rEikwKOghA.SVlIP0HJoyimjvPFfjEyouyyPgmAaeA6fm0swLqpT5ytPbd6R 4kyBxO4LggrKOGP6gTYznPtx0kXS5qdf3d8_qUUZaGfmXvvV3a5wPs20iHRH Io5Y4kn0DQQGBQ.8smk45VLAGhSadbmMTmT4gbDislWlhh0318daX6wZqhQB SShroC5Jo.ghBXb8rnMQlq8odRshtbkeDv_iuakt8Zym0A9w6f8eQs45oTWO vzibUPXkDAolcYXW.hLEq2oAI.ylewum43XVX7lkOgIiIQrBJuxJc7.QDf6D 8_hXaKiY7Te7EKQ8rQjOqFkAiEngYb7rOlg7x38c4ha8QdswRCZAmoKWYLzT bqGPHws8VCiNpD8Fow_Li01F9rJNfxf5JCf_yrOgOz8uXsj22oPM- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <1D8CE231-B5AC-4EE1-8BC7-E3872AAB7028@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 00:18:52 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1D8CE231-B5AC-4EE1-8BC7-E3872AAB7028@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1790971373-1307863132=:35737" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 07:18:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-1790971373-1307863132=:35737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii that's a great idea. Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 3:33:50 AM Subject: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? I was just thinking what it would be like to have a hardware looper that had digital in and/or digital outs instead of analog. That way you get to choose the quality of your front end but you get a device that's only meant to do looping and do it well. Would it make it easier to build not having to convert the audio coming in and going out? You could go analog into something like the fireface and then use the fireface's spdif in/outs like they are an effects loop with the digital only looper pedal. Random Saturday night thought -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --0-1790971373-1307863132=:35737 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
that's a great idea.

Antony Hequet

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 3:33:50 AM
Subject: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs?

I was just thinking what it would be like to have a hardware looper that had digital in and/or digital outs instead of analog. That way you get to choose the quality of your front end but you get a device that's only meant to do looping and do it well.  Would it make it easier to build not having to convert the audio coming in and going out? You could go analog into something like the fireface and then use the fireface's spdif in/outs like they are an effects loop with the digital only looper pedal.

Random Saturday night thought
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Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876

--0-1790971373-1307863132=:35737-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 08:19:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D369F18372B; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 622759021/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.32/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.32 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmUCAJp19E1V0rcg/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgXmCDAQIYkBJV1ix0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,354,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="622759021" Message-ID: <4DF4767F.5020705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:19:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review References: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > You can indeed press stack while recording. That's where the tap-dance part comes in. > > Loop N switch to start recording > Stack **** (possibly a hold if you use the default configuration) > Loop N switch to finish loop and start stacking > Stack to stop stacking **** while it's unimportant where that first stack press is positioned in time it's worth trying putting it on an exact beat. It's then much easier to learn to get the whole process under muscle memory. Todd Matthews wrote: > I did know that you can press stack while recording but that involves the > tap dancing while your trying to lay down,let's say, a rhythmically accurate loop. ;-) well, how long did it take you to learn to play your instrument? one extra button press will take you 30mins to learn andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 10:29:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5113C183722; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=5AtGCudA6XrVPvAihTldyxxIlIcQBwj7GqC4qRR/5D4=; b=xfjaIlVy3j4/gwFH7F/1lnNJOktQNNRaYfsjIkKs0ii0UuVFgcsiZnObQxb+AN2TF0 CvxdXWSm4fbZz//au0F1MPSj7/IYwbem/2qvoOn5Rrl3wREeMexZ+Wxp/zOFgQ4Rms2E AJNdArt0jknPxwQl6FHqzxwM2wsu3j/zvzUQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=gpblB8p5fmnJ6joTih7rgY/puK7E6pOOF3NigzGD4U1N9sqabX+6w6RUqbUd/dODEy /BVL2l3mEEm/n+FuuworSdJcgj2j4yUbKK6tL8iRaqrq7cJA+20IVeVwVPyYuNwq7uiB SBVyV7vuzPWxXRVt4mRHrSJ6loBIfQ7Vd7NUA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4DF4767F.5020705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:29:11 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <01034492-E235-4E9D-94DE-71EABC65E6E9@gmail.com> References: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> <4DF4767F.5020705@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Probably 10 years before I got a decent sound out of it:)=20 I sure spent waaaaay longer than 30 mins with the rang 3 practicing just = that and never felt comfortable. So I guess the real issue is me:) I'm = not skilled enough to use the boomerang. Octave lower, octave slower. If = I gave myself 10 years your right I probably would get pretty good at = it, or I could use Mobius/Sooperlooper and the issue is gone :) > ;-) well, how long did it take you to learn to play your instrument? >=20 > one extra button press will take you 30mins to learn=20 > andy > =20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 10:37:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0380E183724; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QdQeRTZpZEQ9aGk6WmqpwDWoijw/5aMGoHxR5S1ij/8=; b=b3QZCxhxXi4eHLRYsgs1iiNx4KP/36N3RB2nYv9zbsyIH74qnKFadtpApHoIn805R4 dIvNtcuQMGQcW3itD8KMqW0xuOXDLqFFVH1UbfETUJdW7c8fUEoV9RKh8s6QjodCL3yj QUwkV74TJbUdVTV6ltH7oQKD5Gr+zoUkbf77o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pol3W3a8G4BYqapQikEfB6nHKHk2KY1jyHAdfWP5mxaIezPYTA1UU82neWsPkVDJwj mMGuxUFEvOWAFtVtPT5EwZKtLkJEV3zcCXYo6ljDNFUl7ioxT7sN05ZAusahdW+15s+z ayjfok+JTwsjXzJpiEhjcKL1uHyMQ+Z9mhxkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <642688.35737.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1D8CE231-B5AC-4EE1-8BC7-E3872AAB7028@gmail.com> <642688.35737.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:37:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Yes, indeed a great idea! Now, try finding a hardware looper with a digital interface. ;-) Rack mountable audio processing devices may have digital i/o, but do looper= s? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:18 AM, wrote: > that's a great idea. > Antony Hequet > ________________________________ > From: Todd Matthews > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 3:33:50 AM > Subject: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? > > I was just thinking what it would be like to have a hardware looper that = had > digital in and/or digital outs instead of analog. That way you get to cho= ose > the quality of your front end but you get a device that's only meant to d= o > looping and do it well.=C2=A0 Would it make it easier to build not having= to > convert the audio coming in and going out? You could go analog into > something like the fireface and then use the fireface's spdif in/outs lik= e > they are an effects loop with the digital only looper pedal. > > Random Saturday night thought > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 10:43:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3E0B183725; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 911826.49745.bm@omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307875409; bh=ECdh4yhsFITIvorTiFfXc/jUNNN/a5OEGh2lNGH6HE8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LpX88VqBUAt+Npf5HOF2tUaaKFivsYm/NKYGuc0tVQpDDUKnbDUVKZAFGoSdDzEo9xPl6d0E2flg0adT0iYOuDYgVJPXg2sDAtZzGAPJo1q3Ei836zp2MiCxEIG1mRH2WLyssYk44enRq135UX1MsO1YjXRYJLlcDnXOgD/F0hk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IhhHx0phsI2pRuYPGB9DJ+hZOYIPU5tlYoJIE5qlwfoRKukUDuwVCTQUzw/2RuVlzB+N3Dq1b1gidFQaK5Yo4p//+AyvPOOt2F3NAZ1d8zk/VvU6OO8VOKrgt6P2jgnVH5/nKuIKQYcrkAzFSvYYrnS+Uj1NC7R5owCZR3lbGI8=; Message-ID: <763701.56451.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4GC5y_sVM1liUmSUxrHtCeAhypFaO.27OV8Jn5Rl4qzjyLJ U_H5T4MJerGHiCN3Zc2sK7DfHcV5CIO9u5glXsMxuu7oEwHAB_0wV.4wZBO_ pMGDxf1M23QvC_A13lFioUGwgYlcBj16WPgj1Fd6XyOBJ8MSKDuHZzg0LXxN OpEMtDLUm63WXrrMWm_9VThoEAPD0TCKfMFn_qs9_KHBcPuFjV_D2eyj1gcU QduKiV5HLMyKBSNtB38xZfZZ5uCr_MUm.cfmE0o5inUhB6dI0C3bHzD7z0Tv AzlYtciAO4CKF1ndLdPY5bvMH2sZIpohkJPyLjRK3usjBRLnired7zTNjffW m4PJQFl09X_2R7JnbN54HySWU24XkP_2PMaCGjlyvG.mFbIOj0Kpg9F9R_yH xO6dAeuGc3ptgdON7kMABF9zSJsgw5eoqF6eEY33l1dG9O967ORspgaRk3Hv sY_FqOLhG7cz3tmzvKAtlu4OEu3kp2sWaCaU9qPR4Nw5nYda72rtrHH7sxPD XBLSMaOLdaSTR19fntyCbzqsePiqn.TMPrWfchjfKt8PHm2nuQQkKvCZzTuk o4wo98_4p2w_fmg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <1D8CE231-B5AC-4EE1-8BC7-E3872AAB7028@gmail.com> <642688.35737.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 03:43:29 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1629726442-1307875409=:56451" Resent-Message-ID: <1-v3fD.A.Zt.ShJ9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:43:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-1629726442-1307875409=:56451 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the Octotrack has a USB port but no digital I/O AH ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 12:37:27 PM Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? Yes, indeed a great idea! Now, try finding a hardware looper with a digital interface. ;-) Rack mountable audio processing devices may have digital i/o, but do loopers? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:18 AM, wrote: > that's a great idea. > Antony Hequet > ________________________________ > From: Todd Matthews > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 3:33:50 AM > Subject: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? > > I was just thinking what it would be like to have a hardware looper that had > digital in and/or digital outs instead of analog. That way you get to choose > the quality of your front end but you get a device that's only meant to do > looping and do it well. Would it make it easier to build not having to > convert the audio coming in and going out? You could go analog into > something like the fireface and then use the fireface's spdif in/outs like > they are an effects loop with the digital only looper pedal. > > Random Saturday night thought > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > --0-1629726442-1307875409=:56451 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
the Octotrack has a USB port but no digital I/O

AH

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 12:37:27 PM
Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs?

Yes, indeed a great idea! Now, try finding a hardware looper with a
digital interface. ;-)
Rack mountable audio processing devices may have digital i/o, but do loopers?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:18 AM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> that's a great idea.
> Antony Hequet
> ________________________________
> From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 3:33:50 AM
> Subject: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs?
>
> I was just thinking what it would be like to have a hardware looper that had
> digital in and/or digital outs instead of analog. That way you get to choose
> the quality of your front end but you get a device that's only meant to do
> looping and do it well.  Would it make it easier to build not having to
> convert the audio coming in and going out? You could go analog into
> something like the fireface and then use the fireface's spdif in/outs like
> they are an effects loop with the digital only looper pedal.
>
> Random Saturday night thought
> --------------------
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>
>

--0-1629726442-1307875409=:56451-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 10:53:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AC64183722; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=Zk3Xt5moIVPV4zGGrwniE2++rnr85BbpU5gDbM8NWg4=; b=V0iuD2WH14msJNk/uKJF0JKbimZ/U3eblk23Ebpkvs2vNtcfjPLwEQAyF7E20Ev/h1 7KL4qV81kbijKspyNC3DQ5sGtFf7MI+8x2c59mKiRrKAvBjgv0el0sXpZbifIdT4F2tu wL1t604iYbZ/3g0fJ3GQIONCZl+WnP+v7GUqU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=H9MEXRzuZKrn9gm7wMgh2QB/dGMehtUiyxjuGwD1uB4s2SwP/m5EmmKZ+Wn+Ly55Dz rRscCglzvCXp5808aHCZggIDL3P5KOFvKSaIhilezO+WoUznjvY3+2ye32w9mYNgO5JF IvEgoTCXHCtg91AANyUvJIcx3vMuTGvF5kbFk= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1003813358 Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:53:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1D8CE231-B5AC-4EE1-8BC7-E3872AAB7028@gmail.com> <642688.35737.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <30E49628-7D92-407D-9A6B-5092316A2203@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:53:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1003813358 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The circuit would be less complicated I would think ditching the A/D and = the D/A stages but it the market for something like this is probably = limited to a handful of members from LD :) On Jun 12, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Yes, indeed a great idea! Now, try finding a hardware looper with a > digital interface. ;-) > Rack mountable audio processing devices may have digital i/o, but do = loopers? >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-2-1003813358 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii The = circuit would be less complicated I would think ditching the A/D and the = D/A stages but it the market for something like this is probably limited = to a handful of members from LD :)
On Jun 12, 2011, at 6:37 = AM, Per Boysen wrote:

Yes, = indeed a great idea! Now, try finding a hardware looper with = a
digital interface. ;-)
Rack mountable audio processing devices = may have digital i/o, but do loopers?

Greetings from = Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
ww= w.looproom.com internet music hub





toddbass.com
twitter: = gtodd876

= --Apple-Mail-2-1003813358-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 10:53:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2867A183728; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5rKL8SphV0Wr7HYCtvrsvHH4t6bKCpLrTA2R15H3o/0=; b=NDwONZHoEZlqf0YGWIhf8FruOGImNAGSKW8zF1tXJ/r/xyA++QllwQ1mA4ftSWWdb9 xaflhoCrbAAYuToa4oY+KziVJ3w2CDEbg0hBg+uDQTWMfulqXvOV2f75ReS6T7sn7o4u D+j4ohmoF19olqYnlhLC52hyIgS5xNx6qMpcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xp/uDmwgHhN5vXWRTsdUG3opcgxqn0FPD1yRtvBV/Ub5OvN8/x7Pu/0Ka+WQJxZNEd DWYoLXtgB3DoRXPPn8Bx3juPWueVmMtxF8zjGEcu3ZKV2vIV7XzBRS24bfsl/cWiWqE2 q8n0d2BIp6PZdFHWb/3+reg5AXEpkHdzvvG3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <763701.56451.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1D8CE231-B5AC-4EE1-8BC7-E3872AAB7028@gmail.com> <642688.35737.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <763701.56451.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:53:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:53:47 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 12:43 PM, wrote: > the Octotrack has a USB port but no digital I/O USB is digital. Might work fine for a digital pipe that way. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 13:46:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45549183726; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 495665.51652.bm@omp1012.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307886359; bh=hyU3DZqI7QLjWq1vqFGGJy5u930ntB7EwdQzQCt1/qo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OdfYk2ywHDG7tWxbE6w18nyLPyW+vpP0zC26wQOQoYVLdZ01SPglD3lkvudixTh2+MqGnhUas1T/VmxS3UOx2G+EpYJhz9NQrm+QMz/p7zW003yIlWkk0Mo8RnY5TtlHO5lNInUMyrKN1x9xK6cke0iABpw+tWLlzarpeXORG6w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bnu2mBJjFgfUrST4oi5hWB4RsHzwjD/KXfyDVWYVrIRYKDnVkxIiVZ5xpSx3DBUH838OxUEgEE0Q9nB2HRfb3yLwBGn7taRx0inCn+rW9HJOa60jOGsKqNQQI6u+gigP1h6QUFuVIRtRZoec6NXaqZzSEmv5NPXC7SuzD09o0U4=; Message-ID: <398586.64527.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wda1sJUVM1n5HyFuEVhW2a3Z6w6Jnw2FfY9MJCWRzhJWfsR .NqpdlxsHKxGd9iWu2IWUW2YjM6bvwlj.PgTO1MniypTkVmRzDwUwCoBqVky 2FN_M9MaZ.WxHXCAVT3Jvzk39726eWDNlegZu3dQj95W.RjILzRlttpIqAZX HU5dw7p52DQ0RSHKw33iQwKUovCEmSEKtTVzF1sReb42iL43DLmJSotFXhNf .DjLHcyYCUY8Wde.FPJEn2puCmsMycaa7m3Xo.FoKnqV.UgkTx_VTem2xf6d dQj.hGXXz7FgoVakl2anZ4uJNFp7ydbG.yujXykTljBDDHg3o1GKgHA1eDM8 ZGEdDg7zOa8Dasca6mhMc3nTG2ooZQZb0kutX3s4cLNW_C01d98ob X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <1D8CE231-B5AC-4EE1-8BC7-E3872AAB7028@gmail.com> <642688.35737.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <763701.56451.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2006000190-1307886359=:64527" Resent-Message-ID: <4hb8V.A.XKD.YMM9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-2006000190-1307886359=:64527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii that's why I mentionned it, but to the best of my knowledge they have it there for upload and download of samples. Could make a suggestion and see if doable to implement more! Antony ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 12:53:46 PM Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs? On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 12:43 PM, wrote: > the Octotrack has a USB port but no digital I/O USB is digital. Might work fine for a digital pipe that way. Per --0-2006000190-1307886359=:64527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
that's why I mentionned it, but to the best of my knowledge they have it there for upload and download of samples. Could make a suggestion and see if doable to implement more!

Antony

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 12:53:46 PM
Subject: Re: Thinking out loud:Hardware looper with digital ins/outs?

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 12:43 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> the Octotrack has a USB port but no digital I/O

USB is digital. Might work fine for a digital pipe that way.

Per

--0-2006000190-1307886359=:64527-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 16:33:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B2DB183721; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vT9vkN3vVXssH3Ov7r/wQUs/sfIFjNPEFFf4aeKIi4A= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=08GRwjcnlH2vNF_SbVIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <6D051113-70EC-4364-9C68-2994F364AB75@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Tedx and RW Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:33:48 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Peeps, Many congratulations to the Walker brothers (Rick and Bill) for their inclusions at a Tedx event. I missed the broadcast, but I am sure it was fun. Kudos to both of you - everyone knows how hard you've worked to get there. Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 17:12:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 810CA183722; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=7aah1vxrgH0SRZtWOhHfYs8ADDwRMwqbVS6i+5DIv7w=; b=KP71Awn4Dpc/eOjM71ew7kfb76ucl7iOOgbyeOrDVHhvJbf2HdvdHrV6t3pJZMr9rZ Q/AVjoXSTCz2Pwj0rxnZSIx9LudqK4fMJHSRKP9sJtnmQyoTyqIUh2rdR8zpHgMvaoeq GFyEwsDelOGsFw8NoiXejFttBtDOFOUSmR9Po= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Cxtbr80br5o0dqdJ99WzdJbCFtGJ9f1vmSa7y6CrOwe0weC+o6E/ukBHVRe19WIZal w3SHvIwzkTReMFPr++moRnr/1PnfUkj9QLCbWcZiN6bt4sr57D4FRDEJShlmHOFb3psd oxCz67VVfqMU1xkK/8YEZfHmtsKqX9ctBQJDI= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Tedx and RW From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <6D051113-70EC-4364-9C68-2994F364AB75@charter.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:12:43 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <86020F13-DC7B-4511-8B57-D0E4AC63039A@gmail.com> References: <6D051113-70EC-4364-9C68-2994F364AB75@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <6cxYVD.A.xJG.OOP9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Congratulations Rick. I loved all the analogies to looping in the world = around us!=20 That's a bummer Bill you forgot to hit record. You need to do another = studio to make up for it:) On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:33 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Peeps, >=20 > Many congratulations to the Walker brothers (Rick and Bill) for their = inclusions at a Tedx event. >=20 > I missed the broadcast, but I am sure it was fun. >=20 > Kudos to both of you - everyone knows how hard you've worked to get = there. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Ted >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 18:16:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95983183716; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 688612.90055.bm@omp1049.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307902613; bh=K7cZ7ljwl68AjCk/eKAPlJPjsLE8AtuTzcK17OfHG8g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GHxp8iFp2iA6QOQOxFg1JO2ImPz78Kalzls04b294pfLsOQV9BrqbhjpOmCDjsDtBO2TfX3Zzb2m5NEIuQhpkmZWeyW/Yc3Gi6Ma1q62L+1Diyesb5t+dAYKu4BmBMFBW8bT6XgFW6bNq+ebL5TIC7kux6B0i8a/ToZiVsrltxc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2guybbYMMcOODePdtIjyiSzBWs1UVu9AB5YAFSAsTt24jlmIj+pObD9daPExDQx/L12vX3Cw0JunEE3OoY1PI/+ZBCrAFI1r3MJ6wQUxCQ9vl8xogU6c/7g82/zsgUyK/Xu5Oqm2x0Mi+MS2O6ND4IZRrD8uI5/fg+pJf7RIBac=; Message-ID: <69975.76561.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: i0ocjG0VM1lY58M.3Fsoc6L3ZAMfSRv_K9aLHuR_xjVfm1o BsnbDLgnkPe0wV15Dz1RmRriq0uWFykRuZqg4VHc87KnF7ZnaMm.FQ4HchsB qM0y2FGBhPDR5tmg7dIMStAeIstX.x6rgMsMPP.0mapWhCc5TY.XA2yuGkYB mN_6RqeI4LNCL5Si.pk3vwVk02c2G1IszD3uAlPjMaijJrO2usDvNFJ_5SKe 3HsVmwWrgC52EqUdRVxH6vE1pwICjTtvvdchRTip9JFJL5w5t9YMda.ONWm_ WH.3KMH01h33WWTW.3Jwy95.R37QstnzFrNq10.CKREY8_whu6psf.IntWoU YgPZ_7gmxJ2HH64wYNO4m.6MEo0BqEBle8WdZMFcuJOB.QjwdReQLmKdBSP6 L7CgiwJgrW2H4Xf6pyYq8JcK8G08mB3pYnk78oqgSWXpc5mOZHkxMSJf3ycj lWYC0XsoWC_A5 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1172209972-1307902612=:76561" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:16:55 +0000 (UTC) --0-1172209972-1307902612=:76561 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I also find that the use of the Stack button requires one to consciously be sensitive to the pressure on the button as the light Press is the Stack and a slightly harder one performs the other defined function. It would be nice not to have to worry about that. Also, yes, the buttons are nicely designed/made but they are small. When I'm in my home studio, I end up taking my shoes off so I don't inadvertently press the adjacent button - and my dogs are a reasonable size 10. Paul --0-1172209972-1307902612=:76561 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I also find that the use of the Stack button requires one to consciously be sensitive to the pressure on the button as the light Press is the Stack and a slightly harder one performs the other defined function. It would be nice not to have to worry about that. Also, yes, the buttons are nicely designed/made but they are small. When I'm in my home studio, I end up taking my shoes off so I don't inadvertently press the adjacent button - and my dogs are a reasonable size 10.

Paul

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>;
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>;
Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review
Sent: Sun, Jun 12, 2011 1:24:26 AM

I see your point. It doesn't really fit the flow of the rang 3. I wonder if it ever be possible work to have the stack button be stop for the selected loop?Then have rec-overdub-play functionality. Not a programmer but it probably would require too much changing off the code.
On Jun 11, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

> On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:
>
>> Yes, thanks for explaining it better than I could Mark. I did know that you can press stack while recording but that involves the tap dancing while your trying to lay down,let's say,  a rhythmically accurate loop. I did have it set for seemless loop boundaries as well because I would always hear this fade in/out otherwise, when playing a bowed string instrument. It was unusable for me without that feature. I also wish the boomerang could be set to loop like this:
>>> Rec/Dub --> Recording
>>>     Rec/Dub --> Overdubbing
>>>     Rec/Dub --> Playing
>
> I think the Boomerang III's multitrack phrase sampler orientation pushes it toward having the pedals cycle as Record -> Play -> Stop -> Play -> Stop -> ...
>
> It would probably be difficult to explain Record -> Overdub -> Play -> Stop -> Play -> Stop -> ... and inserting overdub into the cycle then leaves one without a good way to stop the loop.
>
> Mark
>

--------------------
Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876
--0-1172209972-1307902612=:76561-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 18:25:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6EB6183726; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Boomerang III quick review From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:25:06 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <14864898.1307827176049.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <49E07835-B687-4F46-B6BC-4DE8D6004C52@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > You can indeed press stack while recording. That's where the tap-dance = part comes in. >=20 > Loop N switch to start recording > Stack (possibly a hold if you use the default configuration) > Loop N switch to finish loop and start stacking > Stack to stop stacking And a further note for anyone else picking up the Boomerang III. This is = what you need to do in serial mode. In parallel mode, you need to = actually hit one more switch: Loop N switch to start recording Stack Loop N switch to mark it as stacking Loop N switch to finish loop and start stacking Stack to stop stacking One can certainly learn to do this, but it's also definitely way more = work than on many other loopers. (It also had me scratching my head as = to whether I was failing to get some button presses to register until I = figured it out. Time to go back and read the manual more thoroughly.) That said, fitting the controls for a multi-track looper into just a few = buttons is fundamentally hard and deciding what goes where depends on = priorities. The Boomerang III identifies itself as a phrase sampler and = optimizes for recording basic loops that can be turned on and off either = as parallel loops or in serial and stacking and drones and so forth = while supported are clearly not the design focus. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 21:42:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8A7B183725; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:subject:date:references:to :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=kXoX33gZoCHNTu9mT71xwKZhsu3cqpOcyMJiNL7a0bY=; b=Vcvuyc+Iwu2Znauya1jv99hbUgdhJMFZGAPAYncKj91CQ2GSqqDxBmxCbt3aaCfVyP JT0VOJLuf2beo1r0slxMC0GeYHjF2WpcueRVbnow+54Y7tCPWKyBQgNZuHFlKJUpyxMc jFTBUS31TFFEa2PK4/nRXazRU3ZgBmGKDa6DM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:references:to:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=O8gWAjbqjPSI6BkbhnK9ihl6w4V46AVlFFEfCRzBPIf4OeFSf3WGuKk2T+iqq/+T7b EWIA24QL0djDFNuHocg4x2+YJVPED9jc4XjOdCeCPYge+WgeJWGeBWLu8dIxn0bKaksp GKHqbj/S9xiZV8iEd3JUnsdK6pA1l4MZqU6BI= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1042751114 Subject: Some mo' bass bloopin' Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:42:29 -0400 References: <20110612212702.23F801DAF3@smtp.vimeo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <2F2EA323-2AEB-44F4-ABEB-A7E382F3042B@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <6oXkcC.A.UAC.HLT9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:42:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1042751114 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Begin forwarded message: > From: Vimeo > Date: June 12, 2011 5:27:02 PM EDT > Subject: Your video is now online on Vimeo! > > You can watch it here: > http://vimeo.com/25002511 > > > Sunday Morning Improv Vol. 2 > http://vimeo.com/25002511 > > "Using Mobius to loop" > > Involves Todd Matthews. > > Forward this email to your friends and family so that they can see it, too. > > Don't want these alerts anymore? > http://vimeo.com/settings/notifications > > LOVE, > > > -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-2-1042751114 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
From: Vimeo <no-reply@vimeo.com>
Date: June 12, 2011 = 5:27:02 PM EDT
Subject: Your video is now online on = Vimeo!

You can watch it here:
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3D"Sunday

Sunday Morning Improv Vol. 2
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"Using Mobius to loop"

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Forward this email to your friends and family so that they = can see it, too.

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= --Apple-Mail-2-1042751114-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 21:53:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5D28183725; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BHFpt+xWBndsjRB6DPbJICD5P9dVWxE1r1EMdlWy8Qs=; b=cMl+x7dHA9if5G156JPS4rAr3pET5wWgL3xflcnxlRsrElaVdEckgWle//7lavz9VF Wh0l1Yp8SunKwykRMDfxztJabzoBPxq3oD+nQOrDmF+9ZyV91ls7y7/K3WJkp6xyAXNc B23xdTe8oxU5P6AkwFIe1q/TtDilW8kFf7UPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qjySEh908W5tRzQvNUS90PJh5GbWNHfnfPYTc5GnOBMJJXsgfHQVsI4GyxY9LDyM/k ML178x5BLkmhi0kliAG4lLmEcjEMtnRCtXzb4wA73CHaM99Z1XQgC8pIwrrZEZX9FFBC spt95ohEobf/kw2CGhztuorQrRJJ4R3tceUbg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2F2EA323-2AEB-44F4-ABEB-A7E382F3042B@gmail.com> References: <20110612212702.23F801DAF3@smtp.vimeo.com> <2F2EA323-2AEB-44F4-ABEB-A7E382F3042B@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:53:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Some mo' bass bloopin' From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1aaac7518704a58ad30e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:53:05 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1aaac7518704a58ad30e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very cool Todd Jason On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Vimeo > *Date: *June 12, 2011 5:27:02 PM EDT > *Subject: **Your video is now online on Vimeo!* > > You can watch it here: > http://vimeo.com/25002511 > [image: Sunday Morning Improv Vol. 2] > > *Sunday Morning Improv Vol. 2* > http://vimeo.com/25002511 > > "Using Mobius to loop" > > Involves Todd Matthews . > > Forward this email to your friends and family so that they can see it, too. > > > Don't want these alerts anymore? > http://vimeo.com/settings/notifications > > LOVE, > [image: vimeo] > > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > --0015174c1aaac7518704a58ad30e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Very cool Todd
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Jason
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Todd Matthews= <gtmatthews@g= mail.com> wrote:


Begin forwarded message:

From: Vimeo <no-reply@vimeo.com>
Date: June 12, 2011 5:27:02 = PM EDT
Subject: Your video is now online on V= imeo!

You can watch it here:
http://vimeo.c= om/25002511

= Sunday Morning Improv Vol. 2
http://vimeo.com/25002511

"U= sing Mobius to loop"

Involves Todd Matthews.

Forward this email to your friends and family so that they can = see it, too.

http://vimeo.com/set= tings/notifications

LOVE,
3D"vimeo"

3D""

--------------------
Todd Matthews
twitter:= gtodd876


--0015174c1aaac7518704a58ad30e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 22:35:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC654183725; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=t1xgwWMxhN1TSHj25COn1I7aTGz2IKpu3stOMk5cWo0rFApPLECCzraEVtxm9/Y/; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:35:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Strymon "El Capistan" Tape delay emulation + Looper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7902551e90d41a2aeba51b4d08c1eeb7f3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:35:29 +0000 (UTC) I just chanced upon the Strymon "El Capistan" tape echo after seeing an ad for their Leslie emulator in Guitar Player Magazine. It can do 20 seconds of looping when in the "sound on sound" mode. It's got some great features, and tweakable parameters like "tape crinkle" and even a spring reverb. 24 bit / 96k sample rate $299 list Here are some comparisons with actual tape delay units: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=796044 Strymon "El Capistan" Product Page: http://www.strymon.net/products/elcapistan/ Youtube looping demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n29OncKKC8&feature=player_embedded User Manual: http://www.strymon.net/wp-content/uploads/ElCapistan_UserManual.pdf -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 22:38:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C77D183728; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8GAOw+9U0yaFkk/2dsb2JhbABSmBiON8dnhiQEhw2Odoss X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,356,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="129763316" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.89.36 Message-Id: <07874BC6-0E1A-44BD-A817-211DB820CA7F@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Strymon "El Capistan" Tape delay emulation + Looper Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:42:26 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:38:07 +0000 (UTC) It's a great pedal, as is the Brigadier and the Lex rotary. The forthcoming TimeLine should be amazing. Check it out. I think it has a looper, too. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 23:13:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0C36183723; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=wSMjvLho3GZE1n9MBnmabrmFD69xD5QrXRIkQ20ckXA=; b=Cz8hLnAbXaLT0xewqQ0b9mp2VgBce7ZqpSKBaFcKlCBZvfxTQtSmfLcbDpD5Al2elw GMegWMohoPNd7xEQuUNqJAWa+K5P1IGR9FMn+y2pL+4tahX08TvZ6X63yUn6cdu34J/1 VmtSbDMF2tf/HdehCwUTPA6bziyV8vz92OxQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=HLHibTqdpeK5U5uyboDUKR+ry+mJp2PBGOuzDdY+BewtxrgkQId4GopQLpVXQ3UR2t 70aJSu+ZqcZlLbLznhT0Zsu+nUbLL+1AiykrhxYdPr0uurGOPzN3Svaun7uGuQke61EG pypXN5rlK7h7Br4WDSp3KtQbWhOiWASWXXa2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110612212702.23F801DAF3@smtp.vimeo.com> <2F2EA323-2AEB-44F4-ABEB-A7E382F3042B@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:13:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Some mo' bass bloopin' To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bd690f0472d04a58bf4e6 Resent-Message-ID: <7WGhqD.A.eiD.0gU9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:13:56 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bd690f0472d04a58bf4e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 dude. lovely. very lovely. really nice to hear you play as well, you have a really sweet sound. T. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jason Finnern wrote: > > Very cool Todd > > > Jason > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > >> >> >> --0023545bd690f0472d04a58bf4e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dude. =A0lovely. very lovely. =A0really nice to hear you play as well, you = have a really sweet sound.=A0

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On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jason= Finnern <ja= sonfinnern@gmail.com> wrote:

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--0023545bd690f0472d04a58bf4e6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 12 23:14:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF82C183727; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=omVY451Mdm5sh+OTlzYPmT79ZHdgVSPlUqAJ5G7xSNc=; b=ipyoKcs1RD4uymtccnhyNJmsoqbNR+h2ZHojwbfs9AESBq2ZHcfvLnXzYtluuDGzgk TLtjrxiO/g7xuqRHVk57yDD62WQ3pto0TZM5k0CSuGnpsB3EQDhvBzGvD3Qc1oYUY2pI RLK7U3m5uLLbY5m2MiSBERrGqXLskySDtjq+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=BejUC5A4dZRoLx4VQNuQUY2jziSjNEzd/AzwfqN9lCkCedXyzKeM3TMO69jRaHH4ic INLzbat140/kkDXcDGmc7uah8iLGvWCvlPlpg6DmMJj9nbspJcmEcEu3ZRVYDl5vwVsy UnXfnwV9IVCAeqFMgJa97PwsotuwR60czvg7A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86020F13-DC7B-4511-8B57-D0E4AC63039A@gmail.com> References: <6D051113-70EC-4364-9C68-2994F364AB75@charter.net> <86020F13-DC7B-4511-8B57-D0E4AC63039A@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:14:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tedx and RW To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174737aa230de704a58bf79f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:14:33 +0000 (UTC) --0015174737aa230de704a58bf79f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this stuff is so often archived on video. any idea if your segment was recorded for streaming, Rick? On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > Congratulations Rick. I loved all the analogies to looping in the world > around us! > > That's a bummer Bill you forgot to hit record. You need to do another > studio to make up for it:) > > On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:33 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > > Peeps, > > > > Many congratulations to the Walker brothers (Rick and Bill) for their > inclusions at a Tedx event. > > > > I missed the broadcast, but I am sure it was fun. > > > > Kudos to both of you - everyone knows how hard you've worked to get > there. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ted > > > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174737aa230de704a58bf79f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this stuff is so often archived on video. =A0any idea if your segment was r= ecorded for streaming, Rick?

On Sun, Jun = 12, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
Congratulations Rick. I loved all the analo= gies to looping in the world around us!

That's a bummer Bill you forgot to hit record. You need to do another s= tudio to make up for it:)

On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:33 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

> Peeps,
>
> Many congratulations to the Walker brothers (Rick and Bill) for their = inclusions at a Tedx event.
>
> I missed the broadcast, but I am sure it was fun.
>
> Kudos to both of you - everyone knows how hard you've worked to ge= t there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ted
>

--------------------
Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876




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--0015174737aa230de704a58bf79f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 01:19:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27E87183727; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=zaY4LC2+3fa4fdYeII+M9N8AF7lBmRgC4d8qLIbh4dY=; b=Kg2p8pOm/fMjFspksCzxq/Ia4F+LKBVt2NAw8L0r2sbZzZqqLXwuUVhDfN7Vq3bjaQ KWNQmRQ8432p7lpQbeEtd7l1o8yKdI43JJymrgytBQncwUsUZv27gtOD76loNTgrK2ul j9aNPTs+rzDkabLNVdjaHbYChvK6I3DD15tOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=NOV2ZkiBT89fHF8ZDfptz7Aof3XUsyXnPQgXKQjZn68Gn1HDjCBKJYjOXiPfou2+MK pCExqE9RdNCpYVVjoNMPakBJ/2r8H8pmTINnKl2Ty/exX1zhnIFI2KRa4YsiCKnRWiog vDHVTowRF40v5aL9ygOXIN+ISKQHOuzUtPGqw= Subject: Re: Teasing Time Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <4DF43D09.8090800@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:19:39 -0700 Cc: Mark Hamburg Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <45D54AE7-6754-4D0F-94BF-AA7FEA38DF92@grubmah.com> <4DF43D09.8090800@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Well this sounds just lovely. Especially Mark's notion of weaving the = rhythmic in and out of longer pads... expression pedal to control mix... = and midi for time... yum :) On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> I've been tempted to put together a DD-20 followed by an SL-20 to do = long ambient loops that can then be rhythmatized, but having an M13, it = seems like a better choice just to stick with that unless someone can = convince me that the SL-20 is too amazing to pass up particularly given = that the M13 supports half-speed and reverse. > They are really such different beasts and different approaches. To = me, > aesthetically, they are not even comparable (and the DD-20 is a really = great pedal, imho, though I don't own it). >=20 > I think the SL-20 is very, very hip, myself. >=20 > There are also a lot of what I would call "Kotekan" rhythms in the = box (thanks to Andy Butler for that term) > which slice into even 'sub pulse' rhythms (or, straight 16ths or = triplet 16ths) and if you use the > random slicing feature with a dummy plug in one channel, the = randomized left and right panning that occurs will > throw out random rhythmic groupings that have a 'sub pulse' as a = basis. >=20 > This allows one to just listen and loop the results if you want = something besides the 100 or so preset rhythms that are included in the > box. >=20 > Additionally it has what I wish all pedals had, a dry mix and an = effected mix which can be mixed and matched. >=20 > This allows one to slowly morph a rubato ambient loop, subtly into a = pumping square wave styled rhythmic loop. > The unit also allows for someone to change the attack fo the wave form = and length of the slices which can be very, very > interesting to morph a very soft feeling rhythm into a very hard , = square wave rhythm. >=20 > I really did the SL-2 and know nothing else that does what it does, = though I also love the > GIG FX Chopper pedal which does other intersting (and polyrhtyhmic) = tremelos that can be mixed with pannings at > different rates. >=20 > rick walker >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 04:57:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8400A183723; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:30:47 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Dr. T, Jim Hobbs, Tim Mungenast, June 19 Outpost 186 , Cambridge Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <7dk7cD.A.NHH.VjZ9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, The final Visual Music LIVE show of the season with an eclectic lineup. 8:00 PM Jim Hobbs, solo Alto Sax. What can I say about the incomparable Jim Hobbs? He can go from California cool to totally out faster than any sax player I've heard and have it make complete sense. 8:45 Tim Mungenast and his Merry Men Tim Mungenast - guitar / Michael Bloom - bass / Jon Proudman - drums A rare chance to see me play with an electric jamband. "Boston's longtime avant-guardian Tim Mungenast commands a many-headed hydra of guitar sound, both challenged and supported by the mighty ex-Cul de Sac rhythm squad of Jon Proudman (drums) and Michael Bloom (bass and occasional sundries). Tim has performed with luminaries such as Ken Field, Kris Thompson (Lothars, Abunai!, Nisi Period), Chris Mascara, Urban Ambience, Michael Knoblach (Cul de Sac, Twitcher), John DeGregorio (Opium Den, Amber Spyglass), Lauri des Marais, Plasticrazorprotector/2KJB, Sympathetic Dissonance, and Ross Hamlin, in addition to his solo soundscapes, while Bloom and Proudman toured as part of Cul de Sac." Dr. T -- Video Projections My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources with a video mixers and effects processors The sources consist of computer-manipulated original material derived from my still photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- sometimes they simply co-exist. I'm greatly looking forward to both of these sets, and hope that you can join us. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with two pieces from the 2011 Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3_DnGzvg_w Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to be of interest, -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 09:25:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDE3F183724; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 629745165/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.32/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.32 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtcBAOTW9U1V0rcg/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgR1xGGJASVdYsd X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,357,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="629745165" Message-ID: <4DF5D777.4010001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:25:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tedx and RW References: <6D051113-70EC-4364-9C68-2994F364AB75@charter.net> <86020F13-DC7B-4511-8B57-D0E4AC63039A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:25:12 +0000 (UTC) todd reynolds wrote: > this stuff is so often archived on video. any idea if your segment was > recorded for streaming, Rick? +1 I only caught the end , with the beatboxing bringing into focus the loop built from chunks of audience participation. ..cool andy (thanx Jeff for the post, I hadn't imagined I'd catch any) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 09:31:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6E79183723; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 629748254/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.32/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.32 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtcBABzY9U1V0rcg/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgR1xeGJASVdYsd X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,357,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="629748254" Message-ID: <4DF5D8D4.7030200@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:31:00 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Teasing Time References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Phil Clevenger wrote: > Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time subdivisions from a very = > long delay of indeterminate length? It depends on the gear available. With the Pigtronix I guess what you mean about it being able to subdivide the loop is by the multitap settings...so you got the only tech solution in your case already. Matthias Grob has a technique where he takes feedback down to zero and plays a duet with himself. When your timing locks on, which is usually will, all you have to to is bring back up the feedback, and you've got your timhing synced into the loop. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 09:53:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DF0F183727; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_961b6ab3-d4e6-4da9-87d2-79b408ba452f_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: A new piece of music, 80BPM ambient guitar Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:53:03 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2011 09:53:04.0064 (UTC) FILETIME=[B04B4400:01CC29AF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:53:05 +0000 (UTC) --_961b6ab3-d4e6-4da9-87d2-79b408ba452f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As usual using the Elektron Octatrack as "looper"=2C I'm "cheating" on this= one as one of the track is a kick drum sample that i pitch shift and rever= se and the more..All else is live sampled (looped) guitar as i go along - L= ive Improvised Looping (or sampling). One track uses and LFO to pitchshift= =2C kind of kool.. a few sequencer stuff is used to pitch shift=2C adjust p= layback speed and apply effects..I REALLY=2C really like the OctaTrack=2C i= t's a truly unique piece of gear=2C an instrument in it self.. try one !!!h= ttp://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/comet-hallyes-closest-approach Please give me some feedback and feel free to ask how I use the Octa..=20 All the best to you all=2C Anders = --_961b6ab3-d4e6-4da9-87d2-79b408ba452f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As usual using the Elektron Octatrack as "looper"=2C I'm "cheating" on this= one as one of the track is a kick drum sample that i pitch shift and rever= se and the more..
All else is live sampled (looped) guitar as i go alon= g - Live Improvised Looping (or sampling). One track uses and LFO to pitchs= hift=2C kind of kool.. a few sequencer stuff is used to pitch shift=2C adju= st playback speed and apply effects..
I REALLY=2C really like the= OctaTrack=2C it's a truly unique piece of gear=2C an instrument in it self= .. try one !!!

Please give me some f= eedback and feel free to ask how I use the Octa.. =3B

All the best to you all=2C

Anders
= = --_961b6ab3-d4e6-4da9-87d2-79b408ba452f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 10:11:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D957183726; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=lGHKrR4jt8AeAwY3l6X1UDxKwskjpD1ElfIQ4UwJB3I=; b=doh+mUNweRMiMXq0ianvNoV0HGPPr97Xsy5v7kQeKpuVjBYT4gM5EutCGOj9PY+U8E XFflv4h19k4dFQ+E/F4PzQ5xtTsIky8mMRHr/Px/v3aOTE6uTloU83RZx6Empjv5jrd1 jI5io9N0AOJObVAOolR6KEEY9RMGmSA3AlK6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=IB/7XcR+CjkOt8qWkIxiL85sXHAle4XIH2XAvx6DEzAz0gUXqbXVM1EOAcywSwCq7p 2Kwwl+P6IhQQ/rkGDiYLB1gwSy8jH57g7E3mav58nFO6WkDT11Mvt3qa2D7wd7Bi4Ktk Ra9Mrmztb/tCMKBhGf5g/pa4WgGBxH+4bB99Y= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1059779531 Subject: Re: Some mo' bass bloopin' Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 06:11:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110612212702.23F801DAF3@smtp.vimeo.com> <2F2EA323-2AEB-44F4-ABEB-A7E382F3042B@gmail.com> Message-Id: <75E7CA33-99EC-4833-8DCD-EC7144620D01@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:11:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1059779531 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Todd and Jason!! This was the first time I tried looping using = parallel loops on different tracks instead of in a serial song style = fashion.=20 On Jun 12, 2011, at 7:13 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > dude. lovely. very lovely. really nice to hear you play as well, you = have a really sweet sound.=20 >=20 > T. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jason Finnern = wrote: >=20 > Very cool Todd > =20 > =20 > Jason -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-1--1059779531 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
dude.  lovely. very lovely.  really nice to hear = you play as well, you have a really sweet = sound. 

T.



On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jason Finnern = <jasonfinnern@gmail.com> wrote:

Very cool Todd
 
 
Jason
toddbass.com
twitter: = gtodd876

= --Apple-Mail-1--1059779531-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 10:35:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 083D7183725; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF5E7CF.2080004@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:34:55 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: todd reynolds , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Tedx and RW References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:35:02 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > this stuff is so often archived on video. any idea if your segment > was recorded for streaming, Rick? The event was streamed in real time and each individual speech will be uploaded to the web in about 3 weeks time when they've been edited. I'll post when that happens. thanks everyone for all the encouraging and positive comments about this very, very short performance. I truly feel blessed to have a lot of support from this wonderful community. warmly, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 11:32:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF44A183725; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UJ6+0iW+ELlqjYf7F5XjB+fYUHUygMEaOVEwNaELnGg=; b=Kpgz1y0lIEk/yxQf4OSzNcoLBJhzM3vSxUnF5JGsQhTNdkL+KgzXjKovemKRm1sDD/ oq+L44SrGDcJplk/Ip/0pxm/7efdi+NQP2ivOoWW0JH2FIGpaCapy3HmIuxJJfq0TnJW EsWoUf0SyaNXZta7fS5BfltXwe8Isi7miorN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uZB+djiCBajgSsB1cfRNSteQCdGtVD0AW6tKbsGup47/Hdlhzg1arCanPPlZTPQXqq wArx4kpgoBMPV6NaOdIYoidJ/XErr/rAvEJAxfRsgBg61THAR2woXimP9iPCPZbsYhtm CsVNQYCz9RkcRdKakOsF/OhacOJB8vpyE11VY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:32:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: John Floridis - "Live Looping?" From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Reminds me of Phil Keaggy. Great playing. http://youtu.be/y0d2PqZcLVc Ricky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 11:39:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B33A8183724; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2uTK9KcrYckLqQ+Rz6mvE6Tlr5Qx1bsTGNXTMIVC6R8=; b=fq7R6Noq4fFNQ7LWXX6I8O2g3uuOj+pQFQmos805zNwER8pBHqYXmx89NSISt0ncSG EMzUcNkLt6Ys0775r8W7nfjJqkRFhdQH1O/4vwCF8HCknsjpx/vCFAqDPV6TkrVGKulu 2jnqlvOeWWikdh2lPzqwALhRqIJjjgxADpiWk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=HHpe/tOuT4GT/vesc7hV+pLhSbZY/7oTvGrna9lDQXkYbh0fWUtu+mxvgkbGjGYwtv 2XQrr0DlZ7iaD2Rvhow98AJPKRUIsTvxHXuUAUG42qYmr/0fIjeyiCH4Eo3v0prqRzNV DQqFEulbde1UEBZlzMurnF7L52Y2wmM7CyNqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 07:39:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A new piece of music, 80BPM ambient guitar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174737aa9a739404a59660f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:39:52 +0000 (UTC) --0015174737aa9a739404a59660f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Really enjoyed this, Anders, thanks for posting! really lovely sonic variety and feel. and minimal in ways, of course. I respond to that, lol. T. I REALLY, really like the OctaTrack, it's a truly unique piece of gear, an > instrument in it self.. try one !!! > http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/comet-hallyes-closest-approach > > Please give me some feedback and feel free to ask how I use the Octa.. > > All the best to you all, > > Anders > -- --0015174737aa9a739404a59660f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really enjoyed this, Anders, =A0thanks for posting! =A0really lovely sonic = variety and feel. =A0and minimal in ways, of course. =A0I respond to that, = lol.=A0

T.


I REALLY, really like the OctaTrack, it's a truly unique piec= e of gear, an instrument in it self.. try one !!!

Please give me some feedback and feel free to ask how I= use the Octa..=A0

All the best to you all,
<= div>
Anders
<= /div>



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--0015174737aa9a739404a59660f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 18:04:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B004518372B; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=lXRTNDssAAAA:8 a=3j4BkbkPAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=a6heMNOFAAAA:8 a=vHCkQS7LFrEcR3r6usMA:9 a=nZZ6MAJ8Z87Wf_wygngA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=JDxZ39lZySAA:10 a=PQ1yIO_tsl8A:10 a=sWbmfme2iIYA:10 a=pxeEDLlYmm7VZMeL:21 a=3ZO2cWYsMikj9iB2:21 a=AOggbaLSGHe7PbFrS-cA:9 a=xfPgf1uhr4inuY5xR8AA:7 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:04:03 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Subject: Remembering Kim Flint MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1962284_2121017.1307988243120" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 44 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:04:04 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1962284_2121017.1307988243120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all. This coming Sunday, 19 June 2011, will be the one-year anniversary of the tragic accident that took Loopers' Delight founder, Kim Flint, from us. While many LD subscribers may never have met or known him, if they appreciate this community and what it provides them, it's very existence is owed to Kim's vision in starting it in 1996. Some of us did indeed known him (some even from that early beginning in '96) and continue to miss him. But none of us can possibly miss him more than his life partner, Violet Hefner: At LD we enjoy membership with no fees or strings attached, and our freedom to take the conversation anywhere we want has enjoyed a history of Kim's light, almost nonexistent, touch as a moderator. Loopers' Delight has kept going with hardly a blip, because Violet wants it that way, and to a number of us it seems the most fitting way to keep Kim's memory and vision alive. I don't know about the rest of you, but I think sometime this week would be a good time to post something to Vi, if you know her and feel up to it. Or, as an alternative, post something on the "Remembering Kim Flint" FaceBook page: When it comes to grief and loss, the first anniversary is frequently one of the hardest times of all. I suggest that those of us who feel "called" to do so, let her "feel the love" as they say by acting on that call. Or if nothing else (or perhaps in addition to that), make some sort of donation to the operating costs of Loopers' Delight (in memory of Kim) at: Vi has been keeping a blog concerning her loss and subequent grief that I think is really quite poignant at: If you feel an urge or a stiring of any sort in that direction, I think this coming week would be a good time to do something about it. In memory of Kim . . . cheers! Ted Killian ------=_Part_1962284_2121017.1307988243120 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Hello all.

This coming Sunday, 19 June 2011, will be t= he one-year anniversary of the tragic accident that took Loopers' Delight f= ounder, Kim Flint, from us.

While many LD subscribers may never have met or known him= , if they appreciate this community and what it provides them, it's very ex= istence is owed to Kim's vision in starting it in 1996.

Some of us did indeed known = him (some even from that early beginning in '96) and continue to miss him.<= /FONT>

But none o= f us can possibly miss him more than his life partner, Violet Hefner: <v= iolet@missviolet.com>

At LD we enjoy membership with no fees or strings attached, = and our freedom to take the conversation anywhere we want has enjoyed a his= tory of Kim's light, almost nonexistent, touch as a moderator.
=
Loopers' Delight has k= ept going with hardly a blip, because Violet wants it that way, and to a nu= mber of us it seems the most fitting way to keep Kim's memory and vision al= ive.

I don= 't know about the rest of you, but I think sometime this week would be a go= od time to post something to Vi, if you know her and feel up to it. =

Or, as an altern= ative, post something on the "Remembering Kim Flint" FaceBook pag= e: <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D140053582674656&v=3Dwall= >

When = it comes to grief and loss, the first anniversary is frequently one of the = hardest times of all.

I suggest that those of us who feel "called" to do = so, let her "feel the love" as they say by acting on that call.

Or if nothi= ng else (or perhaps in addition to that), make some sort of donation to the= operating costs of Loopers' Delight (in memory of Kim) at: <http://www.= loopers-delight.com/loop.html>

Vi has been keeping a blog concerning her loss an= d subequent grief that I think is really quite poignant at: <http://viol= etalone.com/>

If you feel an urge or a stiring of any sort in that direction, I th= ink this coming week would be a good time to do something about it.<= /DIV>
In memory of Kim= . . . cheers!

Ted Killian
------=_Part_1962284_2121017.1307988243120-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 18:06:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2A91183729; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EPsI2uBqwRB46TT2zv+bg9LMlHV+ZRsT3nI660hQe0Y=; b=pskJrlRCX0KInC0w4QDJ96GllG1uSJcPs0LdZfH4jVmUCB3qu28UeBUSHcuefp1cCZ pEUxHOBfBMbLRPxYTnUoEihyKrSKoMHt7oVFddFPIQ4MBNiHfIKxfUjoMYSBG4WPkket 681VhZ2FrUA3rrJ1cnnz2GSQPn0uHZfRE96VU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MYRtRRWzAoVJXubMHQEwe7txT0kZXgWRrnkr7s7PRL4sBLQz/2U14wAcJMFewDvSRR ICYkp1G1HZttm6eEdw/p4MrX00lVdN3BqkeeraQKDJ/jICYMSotNyKmsDiVR0VNtfTbF Mc2bEZ6L6HMyJX9KJHSTZsrUahElNQGSE8eT4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:06:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A new piece of music, 80BPM ambient guitar From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c43eac13ef104a59bc6f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:06:21 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c43eac13ef104a59bc6f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I really enjoyed this... Thanks, Jason On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > As usual using the Elektron Octatrack as "looper", I'm "cheating" on this > one as one of the track is a kick drum sample that i pitch shift and reverse > and the more.. > All else is live sampled (looped) guitar as i go along - Live Improvised > Looping (or sampling). One track uses and LFO to pitchshift, kind of kool.. > a few sequencer stuff is used to pitch shift, adjust playback speed and > apply effects.. > I REALLY, really like the OctaTrack, it's a truly unique piece of gear, an > instrument in it self.. try one !!! > http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/comet-hallyes-closest-approach > > Please give me some feedback and feel free to ask how I use the Octa.. > > All the best to you all, > > Anders > --0015174c43eac13ef104a59bc6f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I really enjoyed this...
=A0
Thanks,
=A0=
Jason

On Mon, Jun 13, 20= 11 at 2:53 AM, Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wro= te:
As usual using the Elektron Octatrack as "looper", I'm "= cheating" on this one as one of the track is a kick drum sample that i= pitch shift and reverse and the more..
All else is live sampled (loope= d) guitar as i go along - Live Improvised Looping (or sampling). One track = uses and LFO to pitchshift, kind of kool.. a few sequencer stuff is used to= pitch shift, adjust playback speed and apply effects..
I REALLY, really like the OctaTrack, it's a truly unique piece of = gear, an instrument in it self.. try one !!!

Please give me some feedback and feel free to ask how I= use the Octa..=A0

All the best to you all,
<= div>
Anders
<= /div>

--0015174c43eac13ef104a59bc6f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 19:18:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B89818372A; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UeMVXpQKN4DguW2Dc32gmHOhvl3edQ5smxmODMRA64Y=; b=Zefz+0B2CBOxYL58A38ZXqfdIAY9Tn2jWJ+xBU58s/rPhX7K9h9Ul8Kxwo3NMSUk9T 4YdoY9TrIO7K1pSd1XYEkD+V/8WQAu7pe7Y64Xet2BuxSCssWMFRJadImBI0cuLfnV1e gMm5G8E7eqf9Tb5tuwfQEZW44Nivh1fXoD8Yw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rMPahk9EfgZbU1MCrO9/0AkiCIo9FOPSkkjTKryYex1/2HZXsLYNi6XoZbeZbYeRok Mq978AoZlfG22HltVRQFYgq4F+CFkiU/n24MqZFQUzdXJVhWzYAFvChU0P4XRlFx1gZ2 OqgNPNnHEU1e4Z8eK9aNUdXnNfTR8PawoUae4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:18:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Remembering Kim Flint From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1El0oB.A.ahD.-Jm9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:18:22 +0000 (UTC) I never met Kim, but very much appreciate how helpful and wonderful a resource LD really is. Hard to believe it is a year already. RIP. Ricky On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:04 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn w= rote: > Hello all. > This coming Sunday, 19 June 2011, will be the one-year anniversary of the > tragic accident that took Loopers' Delight founder, Kim Flint, from us. > While many LD subscribers may never have met or known him, if they > appreciate this community and what it provides them, it's very existence = is > owed to Kim's vision in starting it in 1996. > Some of us did indeed known him (some even from that early beginning in '= 96) > and continue to miss him. > But none of us can possibly miss him more than his life partner, Violet > Hefner: > At LD we enjoy membership with no fees or strings attached, and our freed= om > to take the conversation anywhere we want has enjoyed a history of Kim's > light, almost nonexistent, touch as a moderator. > Loopers' Delight has kept going with hardly a blip, because Violet wants = it > that way, and to a number of us it seems the most fitting way to keep Kim= 's > memory and vision alive. > I don't know about the rest of you, but I think sometime this week would = be > a good time to post something to Vi, if you know her and feel up to it. > Or, as an alternative, post something on the "Remembering Kim Flint" > FaceBook page: > > When it comes to grief and loss, the first anniversary is frequently one = of > the hardest times of all. > I suggest that those of us who feel "called" to do so, let her "feel the > love" as they say by acting on that call. > Or if nothing else (or perhaps in addition to that), make some sort of > donation to the operating costs of Loopers' Delight (in memory of Kim) at= : > > Vi has been keeping a blog concerning her loss and subequent grief that I > think is really quite poignant at: > If you feel an urge or a stiring of any sort in that direction, I think t= his > coming week would be a good time to do something about it. > In memory of Kim . . . cheers! > Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 19:42:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC19F18372B; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=ICklf6mL6VyrtgUOqD5ggQ3n9OJKOgct0f6VWFTAHI4=; b=FA6F41uNrgessdUmAuzAvCayk0Gztud/BMzcXbWYoKeCka253TzSySJMFKVgcPbos8 lyshqHs3nd617wH0CDi2AS514DpnMTdA+ZuccBVGadGPnbAb4JDBziJOEfhUDJMcMbmQ zR94sw1Hpj0PpJNMnNgq6IxoD2xvCx8i1zly0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=Kw1xLfcNIhDOPbQGXsSHsO1IULvnkkoPKHSmox46pugxbFl3XAowFK4cYJsAp7a+vS OpVEiPjupKLodoVK1HKJeUrTA+U0z/eltSV/oK5Zy85d2yja+sm48P2qNBLfFzNEa/8+ E45QjVfWU8Ry2Pk/6BWZhqelDbouCKw0WakOo= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--1025554220 Subject: Re: Remembering Kim Flint Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:42:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <2F32B25F-FE8B-44CC-8F09-9D5F4F11735C@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <2LdNVC.A.sBE.Sgm9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:42:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--1025554220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thank you for reminder about operating costs, Ted. Looper's delight has = been an amazing resource and I am very thankful that Violet chose to = keep it running. I made a long overdue donation. On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:04 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > Hello all. >=20 > This coming Sunday, 19 June 2011, will be the one-year anniversary of = the tragic accident that took Loopers' Delight founder, Kim Flint, from = us. >=20 > In memory of Kim . . . cheers! >=20 > Ted Killian -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-5--1025554220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Thank = you for reminder about operating costs, Ted. Looper's delight has been = an amazing resource and I am very thankful that Violet chose to keep it = running. I made a long overdue donation.
On Jun 13, 2011, = at 2:04 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote:

Hello all.

This = coming Sunday, 19 June 2011, will be the one-year anniversary of the = tragic accident that took Loopers' Delight founder, Kim Flint, from = us.

In memory of Kim . . . cheers!

Ted = Killian
twitter: = gtodd876

= --Apple-Mail-5--1025554220-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 20:01:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44ACC18372B; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1326f994-e460-4a1c-8dff-74328e966a64_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Remembering Kim Flint Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:01:06 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2011 20:01:06.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[A19787C0:01CC2A04] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:01:07 +0000 (UTC) --_1326f994-e460-4a1c-8dff-74328e966a64_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow already a year has past=2C donation sent.. in memory of Kim. Date: Mon=2C 13 Jun 2011 14:04:03 -0400 From: tedkillian@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Remembering Kim Flint Hello all. This coming Sunday=2C 19 June 2011=2C will be the one-year anniversary of t= he tragic accident that took Loopers' Delight founder=2C Kim Flint=2C from = us. While many LD subscribers may never have met or known him=2C if they apprec= iate this community and what it provides them=2C it's very existence is owe= d to Kim's vision in starting it in 1996. Some of us did indeed known him (some even from that early beginning in '96= ) and continue to miss him. But none of us can possibly miss him more than his life partner=2C Violet H= efner: At LD we enjoy membership with no fees or strings attached=2C and our freed= om to take the conversation anywhere we want has enjoyed a history of Kim's= light=2C almost nonexistent=2C touch as a moderator. Loopers' Delight has kept going with hardly a blip=2C because Violet wants = it that way=2C and to a number of us it seems the most fitting way to keep = Kim's memory and vision alive. I don't know about the rest of you=2C but I think sometime this week would = be a good time to post something to Vi=2C if you know her and feel up to it= .=20 Or=2C as an alternative=2C post something on the "Remembering Kim Flint" Fa= ceBook page: When it comes to grief and loss=2C the first anniversary is frequently one = of the hardest times of all. I suggest that those of us who feel "called" to do so=2C let her "feel the = love" as they say by acting on that call. Or if nothing else (or perhaps in addition to that)=2C make some sort of do= nation to the operating costs of Loopers' Delight (in memory of Kim) at: Vi has been keeping a blog concerning her loss and subequent grief that I t= hink is really quite poignant at: If you feel an urge or a stiring of any sort in that direction=2C I think t= his coming week would be a good time to do something about it. In memory of Kim . . . cheers! Ted Killian = --_1326f994-e460-4a1c-8dff-74328e966a64_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow already a year has past=2C donation sent.. in memory of Kim.

Date: Mon=2C 13 Jun 2011 14:04:03 -0400
From: tedki= llian@charter.net
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re= membering Kim Flint

Hello all.

This coming Sunday=2C 19 June 2011=2C will= be the one-year anniversary of the tragic accident that took Loopers' Deli= ght founder=2C Kim Flint=2C from us.

While many LD subscribers may never have = met or known him=2C if they appreciate this community and what it provides = them=2C it's very existence is owed to Kim's vision in starting it in 1996.=

So= me of us did indeed known him (some even from that early beginning in '96) = and continue to miss him.

But none of us can possibly miss him more than his= life partner=2C Violet Hefner: <=3Bviolet@missviolet.com>=3B
At LD we enj= oy membership with no fees or strings attached=2C and our freedom to take t= he conversation anywhere we want has enjoyed a history of Kim's light=2C al= most nonexistent=2C touch as a moderator.

Loopers' Delight has kept going with= hardly a blip=2C because Violet wants it that way=2C and to a number of us= it seems the most fitting way to keep Kim's memory and vision alive.

I don't = know about the rest of you=2C but I think sometime this week would be a goo= d time to post something to Vi=2C if you know her and feel up to it.

Or=2C as= an alternative=2C post something on the "Remembering Kim Flint" FaceBook p= age: <=3Bhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D140053582674656&=3Bv= =3Dwall>=3B

When it comes to grief and loss=2C the first anniversary is fr= equently one of the hardest times of all.

I suggest that those of us who feel = "called" to do so=2C let her "feel the love" as they say by acting on that = call.

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Or if nothing else (or perhaps in addition to that)=2C make some sort of= donation to the operating costs of Loopers' Delight (in memory of Kim) at:= <=3Bhttp://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html>=3B

<= font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000">Vi has been keeping a bl= og concerning her loss and subequent grief that I think is really quite poi= gnant at: <=3Bhttp://violetalone.com/>=3B

If you feel an urge or a stiring= of any sort in that direction=2C I think this coming week would be a good = time to do something about it.

In memory of Kim . . . cheers!

Ted Killian<= /div> = --_1326f994-e460-4a1c-8dff-74328e966a64_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 20:09:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89B5B18372A; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=bVj+xMqwSvCuub+/svduEQ02Dgor6ptOpuQkVvxyLoQ=; b=VIANGPSn5SkbZsWHikQqKpwVVQkUP5bhXMKYyUe6eWoZefSwkJnXjJvgG5Az+PNL33 /DV+AxMLXElUDHTinvFJ9BtGQWL+hxS1cf9yqWvMgpKK/xOtSJzK+kvvkssQKJ2IWOnI l/AbPcACgzv/Spx7Wm/fdwpwyzlXh3MpdCZNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=Y1kTWUvlCFTpnRsGfz9ZXfUUPOevDsc9jbPi5Dbt6Hwh8E0+nbwnDRskpfIuKH3YOv ORFGxuIfTFoCdv9m/ewOUMqBFY53oEBxnAXEcUAJxAg60W+0dxyirj6UFggqZETL5FHX zZ0xYIPSX+tn4Y/vrVczWzHcs7ddzrj98lByM= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1023932284 Subject: Re: A new piece of music, 80BPM ambient guitar Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:09:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <00B29E13-779C-4FFD-AF97-75803C98DC6E@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:09:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1023932284 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's cool Anders. When your doing the guitar looping are controlling = the Octatrack with your hands or are you using a midi foot controller? On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > As usual using the Elektron Octatrack as "looper", I'm "cheating" on = this one as one of the track is a kick drum sample that i pitch shift = and reverse and the more.. > All else is live sampled (looped) guitar as i go along - Live = Improvised Looping (or sampling). One track uses and LFO to pitchshift, = kind of kool.. a few sequencer stuff is used to pitch shift, adjust = playback speed and apply effects.. > I REALLY, really like the OctaTrack, it's a truly unique piece of = gear, an instrument in it self.. try one !!! > http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/comet-hallyes-closest-approach >=20 > Please give me some feedback and feel free to ask how I use the Octa..=20= >=20 > All the best to you all, >=20 > Anders -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-1--1023932284 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii That's cool Anders. When your doing the guitar = looping are controlling the Octatrack with your hands or are you using a = midi foot controller?
On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Anders = Bergdahl wrote:

As = usual using the Elektron Octatrack as "looper", I'm "cheating" on this = one as one of the track is a kick drum sample that i pitch shift and = reverse and the more..
All else is live sampled (looped) guitar as i = go along - Live Improvised Looping (or sampling). One track uses and LFO = to pitchshift, kind of kool.. a few sequencer stuff is used to pitch = shift, adjust playback speed and apply effects..
I REALLY, = really like the OctaTrack, it's a truly unique piece of gear, an = instrument in it self.. try one !!!



=
twitter: = gtodd876

= --Apple-Mail-1--1023932284-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 20:17:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70A65183727; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110613200108.DF8D3183725@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Remembering Kim Flint Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:17:11 -0700 References: <20110613200108.DF8D3183725@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3UGpyC.A.d0E.OBn9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for posting that Ted,I have been following Violets blog and indeed she is a person in need of as much support as can be given whether you know her intimately or not. Without going in to detail she hasn't gotten much of that from Kim's family. She is interested in keeping LD going and LDs memory alive. I really appreciate her for that. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 20:29:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA704183730; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5bcd5cab-8f40-422e-b33c-96403ddfe632_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: A new piece of music, 80BPM ambient guitar Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:29:22 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00B29E13-779C-4FFD-AF97-75803C98DC6E@gmail.com> References: ,<00B29E13-779C-4FFD-AF97-75803C98DC6E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2011 20:29:23.0022 (UTC) FILETIME=[94B9EEE0:01CC2A08] Resent-Message-ID: <8wc6e.A.dHF.kMn9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:29:24 +0000 (UTC) --_5bcd5cab-8f40-422e-b33c-96403ddfe632_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for listening and for the positive response...I'm controlling the Oc= taTrack with my hands most sampling/recording is done with sequencer record= ing trigs=2C that means that I can set up the octatrack to start recording = a given number of beats on any step of the recorder=2C if i thing it ha cap= tured something of value I turn of the trig before the sequencer gets to th= at step again.. This means that i don't need to synchronize my recording ma= nually. As soon as I get time I will start to experiment with MIDI=2C but f= irst I will try to learn this very fun device a bit more. It is also GREAT = fun to use the cross fader.=20 Anders From: gtmatthews@gmail.com Subject: Re: A new piece of music=2C 80BPM ambient guitar Date: Mon=2C 13 Jun 2011 16:09:09 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com That's cool Anders. When your doing the guitar looping are controlling the = Octatrack with your hands or are you using a midi foot controller? On Jun 13=2C 2011=2C at 5:53 AM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote:As usual using the= Elektron Octatrack as "looper"=2C I'm "cheating" on this one as one of the= track is a kick drum sample that i pitch shift and reverse and the more..A= ll else is live sampled (looped) guitar as i go along - Live Improvised Loo= ping (or sampling). One track uses and LFO to pitchshift=2C kind of kool.. = a few sequencer stuff is used to pitch shift=2C adjust playback speed and a= pply effects..I REALLY=2C really like the OctaTrack=2C it's a truly unique = piece of gear=2C an instrument in it self.. try one !!!http://soundcloud.co= m/anders-bergdahl/comet-hallyes-closest-approach Please give me some feedback and feel free to ask how I use the Octa..=20 All the best to you all=2C Anders --------------------Todd Matthewstoddbass.comtwitter: gtodd876 = --_5bcd5cab-8f40-422e-b33c-96403ddfe632_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for list= ening and for the positive response...
I'm controlling the OctaTrack with my ha= nds most sampling/recording =3Bis done with sequencer recording trigs= =2C that means that I can set up the octatrack to start recording a given n= umber of beats on any step of the recorder=2C if i thing it ha captured som= ething of value I turn of the trig before the sequencer gets to that step a= gain.. This means that i don't need to synchronize my recording manually. A= s soon as I get time I will start to experiment with MIDI=2C but first I wi= ll try to learn this very fun device a bit more. It is also GREAT fun to us= e the cross fader. =3B

Anders

From: gtmatthews@gmail= .com
Subject: Re: A new piece of music=2C 80BPM ambient guitar
Date: = Mon=2C 13 Jun 2011 16:09:09 -0400
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m

That's cool A= nders. When your doing the guitar looping are controlling the Octatrack wit= h your hands or are you using a midi foot controller?
On Jun 1= 3=2C 2011=2C at 5:53 AM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote:

As usual using= the Elektron Octatrack as "looper"=2C I'm "cheating" on this one as one of= the track is a kick drum sample that i pitch shift and reverse and the mor= e..
All else is live sampled (looped) guitar as i go along - Live Impro= vised Looping (or sampling). One track uses and LFO to pitchshift=2C kind o= f kool.. a few sequencer stuff is used to pitch shift=2C adjust playback sp= eed and apply effects..
I REALLY=2C really like the OctaTrack=2C = it's a truly unique piece of gear=2C an instrument in it self.. try one !!!=

Please give me so= me feedback and feel free to ask how I use the Octa.. =3B
All the best to you all=2C

Anders

--------------------
Todd Matthews
twit= ter: gtodd876

= --_5bcd5cab-8f40-422e-b33c-96403ddfe632_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 20:31:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EA31183734; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=jy85Q5CVZPEGLu3Fc85FuTuXqLSmRI0M5/kvUmKSwp4=; b=HLano5zK3lhx9BREPBsK42JkI1PT/6AFqGOCFCwe5edIjGnV77Ui2J77IubCt8g5Oi ei8QuL1CAc1CgcB9Cqm5eZ7DCJqDQQIpLZSPW+DeI0avDMGrOlceYhlx2Uy37LlXnqGL VEkdyMY8ntOztCuvCw3OVEZ3PRQQ3UTG1Fh/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=NelM1EfHRDh6wKM8rryX5Ik6aLDhdLSyYqNzC5B62jBCkVz4E/8qmtLGmW8LFr53AG E3hii7brTg27NkBWx4uH3RIQca0CU3iPtVfTjqG4T6/xRPmceG+laAU4pEw2pCU5qSNv hse71kgIOJsA5JLF0/hADbJfQUA/LS7UhA1+I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110613200108.DF8D3183725@arsenic.violacea.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:30:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Remembering Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1d58ecd12804a59dcccc Resent-Message-ID: <-JvZKB.A.IPF.SOn9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:31:14 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1d58ecd12804a59dcccc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Y'all don't forget about the Kim Flint memorial t-shirt as well! I wear mine often while performing, as I will this Sunday for our annual Bang on a Can marathon concert in NY. It always gives me an opportunity to bring Kim's name to bear in describing our community and how much Kim, the Echoplex and LD have contributed to my pursuits over the years. Remembering Kim and Violet, and celebrating all of you as well. Todd On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:17 PM, William Walker wro= te: > Thanks for posting that Ted,I have been following Violets blog and indeed > she is a person in need of as much support as can be given whether you kn= ow > her intimately or not. Without going in to detail she hasn't gotten much= of > that from Kim's family. She is interested in keeping LD going and LDs mem= ory > alive. I really appreciate her for that. > Bill > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174c1d58ecd12804a59dcccc Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Y'all don't forget about the Kim Flint memorial t-shirt as well!=A0=

=A0I wear mine often while performing, as I will this S= unday for our annual Bang on a Can marathon concert in NY. =A0It always giv= es me an opportunity to bring Kim's name to bear in describing our comm= unity and how much Kim, the Echoplex and LD have contributed to my pursuits= over the years. =A0

Remembering Kim and Violet, and celebrating all of you as we= ll.=A0

Todd

On M= on, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:17 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wr= ote:
Thanks for posting that Ted,I have been fol= lowing Violets blog and indeed she is a person in need of as much support a= s can be given whether you know her intimately or not. =A0Without going in = to detail she hasn't gotten much of that from Kim's family. She is = interested in keeping LD going and LDs memory alive. I really appreciate he= r for that.
=A0Bill




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015174c1d58ecd12804a59dcccc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 22:15:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4F8218372D; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2HwjWNNEtCBFZcBIab6ly1Bj8XQ8jVDaiKG9PPjILMY=; b=Mkw0YMC8USegTULnUGBY+FyBIApUBj1vi/PJAtBCl5jvbTF3ZM1x1vSeyJmppq4wPI Gf5OHRnsKGg6/U+R0H3H5Nt2JkaUnTNuLmx34eSreQZjtyr3Lb1KwLARjIzza4UyRidA Ibd0zvfMs8SrkUbqxaR/FYLbUHOkdjLv6vpOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZVk/eU09Nhe7kJck47NFliTNwlbx26Cjg3UaxK2OaThJ95C8nJV193NO6Xkb7lXtUD yyrB9QuAP2ynguIc+0HtlwE3gPn9IOz0FBIcH/BEarascGMzDk8MHIG+50MxTbTYjBL7 bejVwWZ7Sj++K/zMo7S7oTo9MTjAfxAhOED0A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Remembering Kim Flint From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Ted for the reminder. Donation sent. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:04 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn = wrote: > Hello all. > This coming Sunday, 19 June 2011, will be the one-year anniversary of the > tragic accident that took Loopers' Delight founder, Kim Flint, from us. > While many LD subscribers may never have met or known him, if they > appreciate this community and what it provides them, it's very existence = is > owed to Kim's vision in starting it in 1996. > Some of us did indeed known him (some even from that early beginning in '= 96) > and continue to miss him. > But none of us can possibly miss him more than his life partner, Violet > Hefner: > At LD we enjoy membership with no fees or strings attached, and our freed= om > to take the conversation anywhere we want has enjoyed a history of Kim's > light, almost nonexistent, touch as a moderator. > Loopers' Delight has kept going with hardly a blip, because Violet wants = it > that way, and to a number of us it seems the most fitting way to keep Kim= 's > memory and vision alive. > I don't know about the rest of you, but I think sometime this week would = be > a good time to post something to Vi, if you know her and feel up to it. > Or, as an alternative, post something on the "Remembering Kim Flint" > FaceBook page: > > When it comes to grief and loss, the first anniversary is frequently one = of > the hardest times of all. > I suggest that those of us who feel "called" to do so, let her "feel the > love" as they say by acting on that call. > Or if nothing else (or perhaps in addition to that), make some sort of > donation to the operating costs of Loopers' Delight (in memory of Kim) at= : > > Vi has been keeping a blog concerning her loss and subequent grief that I > think is really quite poignant at: > If you feel an urge or a stiring of any sort in that direction, I think t= his > coming week would be a good time to do something about it. > In memory of Kim . . . cheers! > Ted Killian --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 13 23:35:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F56518372C; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cSbKntLBP3wxSxEQ4Vi+Y+jDaCpe5jxtNL0ePKKo/0o=; b=iRELG22aKp/CEEiJlwAEtVM7+I6C/ZVnxUWHzwwbiT2HC8lbdDLg48OuA8sLyZUcLb 2KNZsBKPLnemBkACxc3x20PLEnvvOlog3KqDA0n19kdBbrwabyvuRaVimtHbwI5vVmsN 6SCW1TPz9EeVJQa1l6vzd2mGyfmzJ5kYDbTdU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hPW+3JNBbmVkJ2Abie7RgGJwdnTYCP2ijTQVzstiqk2hm+IzuCnPfnmdA9GbpVYr7C jYDjf7OVKhcfMiIznP6lovlCeWKYCoNdgbjRgC8j0SdglTjvC715m9/coSgWtDShz6of S8Vhfxz8LWvDTy8QZiP1iSFq3AnYwho0aM4Cs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:35:26 +0000 (UTC) New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb Cheers, Ricky http://rickygraham.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 00:52:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0B53183730; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W/yaxW8TXOYZDz8THBY2EeUhMI1i8jjzQOQw0KrwbbA=; b=wdND0Rm8kU/gPgpfuR8kWgaPRn3NwoPVhgJosuXOXYCLiGXUnzOS4wMI4m7LYqkKYf 1iT7g32lVdbrUzhN/OY2zFN9LClIyRJGxKR3p+HeL9Ln8BX9/1oYl9+28OzEYaw4JX35 v4VRcWxaBBN05Q3DOSTO1fUPPLQeQc6Pqw4tI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Nty2ZvJS5Y89jqqLU1q+U6Sh+uGOEwJmQ8y/FDrHhnLTGJL16+kQi76aLaCKDZ8NMc uQjLH+Zt76lTyLTWGwZM23EJ3pryx6V2JTQI59sdcYEjjJcZr7rEbdVKNWi0Sl1cczwt 4zncw/fEseOcmDoboGeYg/3YpD9dQWc7klqzs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:52:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c43ea34d49b04a5a173b4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c43ea34d49b04a5a173b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Beautiful....Is there a way to buy this or donate to your art? Thanks, Jason On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > Cheers, > > Ricky > http://rickygraham.com > > --0015174c43ea34d49b04a5a173b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beautiful....Is there a way to buy this or donate to your art?
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Jason

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic= @gmail.com> wrote:
New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: = http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb=
Cheers,

Ricky
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--0015174c43ea34d49b04a5a173b4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 01:00:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77C9B18372C; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=j4Wq8BPIkSJOIzqDoDvree9TfjPCBYeebqYTCfD2yI8=; b=onRghCWgas52RxgJu3yzAYz4PtsOAP8S6H6pw9GunbiaG1eZjiSy7QcTESV0hkipux 7wjC3OejXRAq60ynDuxgl3qa7CcwkPSR4+pdfWsn7qx6yHTVHCblecNux/bDf0Q57nb3 14Cq9XGg1SeJ919JuDdNfURgp1sDhJ4+OftZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ln7wEpmcIMM8sV5YD0brX5gZwRGn5AA3NY46DBCs9lcQmj9i7HoCVbB5GhVaZTNvy0 GfVDeyuw+Y5UGtwlCLb/GzAL2Ppnz5mXDDpEQC9TyJN8cL3InMGBiDXU5tZpYrsePxPQ QNaCmIhWSNpxEDlZJpFrO56O04Yhh9sJSy2HQ= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Teasing Time From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <4DF5D8D4.7030200@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:00:53 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4DF5D8D4.7030200@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <6ltZ-B.A.ejB.KLr9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Thanks so much Andy for that li'l nugget - will look into Matthias' = technique this evening :) And yeah, the Pigtronix has the toggle switches that turn on and off = subdivisions at 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, and phi... these can be added = and removed willy nilly after the fact. This is what drew me to the unit = in the first place, but honestly I'm enjoying the modulated side of the = thing so much (very DMM-esque) I've paid little attention to the = subdivision stuff so far :) Best, Phil :) On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:31 AM, andy butler wrote: >=20 >=20 > Phil Clevenger wrote: >> Anybody have any cute techniques for teasing time subdivisions from a = very =3D >> long delay of indeterminate length? >=20 > It depends on the gear available. >=20 > With the Pigtronix I guess what you mean about it being able > to subdivide the loop is by the multitap settings...so you > got the only tech solution in your case already. >=20 > Matthias Grob has a technique where he takes feedback down to zero > and plays a duet with himself. > When your timing locks on, which is usually will, all you have to to > is bring back up the feedback, and you've got your timhing synced into = the > loop. >=20 > andy >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 02:04:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6930118372A; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=ZpQ86zpPlAgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=p22KU7DQAAAA:8 a=kciGLAztAAAA:8 a=sIkUQekEkeQ19rqoiJ0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=E98NI7jUsdcA:10 a=JgTSs3qsS_UA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:04:08 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Lovely listening that. Thanks. On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > Cheers, > > Ricky > http://rickygraham.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 02:23:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F078F18372A; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=43BZ1wmq8aKf60Qg644UUdTLS/Stg9GrwXHu4HR8vlc=; b=kzXpQ859bsivDXSV5qZPhoXaxwQtWftZb8PCoDrJPjPpmNNQYg/S3c8uC+IdejIlCo +W5OChIA4fO8GZwHDRWBX4+je/l41jmLjPYvCq9Hi87nrCda6ZGcI5I9STlwiaYQ300g 52YRdcI49n+ZcX9AVn6fRlf0CHGwuGbEViQMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=CLRTP7IX6u7v0voFsDq6AdDPVqsPio4CDpRQ3I7vmuD12pT44rV+oKba+fev9vm3Mu /aGeLt/tNOcBnfszKtIAVW0N0hNeVlHYC7LbciW/QTj+xeAyrtZy8Wcot0lMOryMQRxO dPlNuWeHo7973F5L5HBsGHSFomZSZgmAs3kPs= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:23:04 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Wow! What beautiful colors. I was floored from the 1st 1:30min build up = and then it took me to another place where I floated around for the = remaining 6 and a half minutes. On Jun 13, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > Cheers, >=20 > Ricky > http://rickygraham.com >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 03:36:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EE8C18372A; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 03:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tSCd/XdK4tbls/oHrnnL2hL+dLrXD01RBTY3yfkrJJc=; b=R35wlyat/s9PRf2nIQ9WhZqdkBMY4/5hLjBdIPe+8KK2cdA1SfdMQgRLtQ6zV8W1p1 SF36R3608fSid+PvrkqDnXOu+QCNxccehQ6oNMzcEATSFCeLHPSSzjZNLVGhY3NDfZ/w JRVY0ynVvHUeH2zoWIjZF0Y4e7N/k8uaF54/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qjSzHKaV4VYNVfDsQ8IQlFiZhw9ISH6NzStWzzGN6/J8wbMyOu9Kh++BstNDL/+9EO ZZFIOHewGfOzlK+BJBQfcl46HFqGIL+oUV4IcsC/iDFPAKnyStc4XZz3lZjRu9FwmdY3 qc1R2hEbosMPRT8YzlNoE3pHqUZ1y6HmrC2+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:36:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Jason Finnern To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1aaa56f82004a5a3bdfd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 03:36:23 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1aaa56f82004a5a3bdfd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe I'm crazy...lol...What are your thoughts???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWYCVig8hEg --0015174c1aaa56f82004a5a3bdfd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0015174c1aaa56f82004a5a3bdfd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 06:34:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE85118389C; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF700E1.1030101@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:34:09 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Remembering Kim Flint References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:34:15 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Y'all don't forget about the Kim Flint memorial t-shirt as well; Yes, I wear mine a lot as well; that dyed beard and mischevious grin are a hit at goth/industrial night when I wear it. I also second my brother's sentiments. Violet really deserves our love and support. I can't even imagine losing my beloved wife, Chris in such a way. Violet also has really been amazing in her desire to keep Kim's legacy alive with the website. She deserves our emotional support. Anyone who can, financially, really should donate. This is a an amazing website and an amazing community. It has literally changed my life and Kim is the original reason for it's existence and continued existence. ******************************************************************************************************** With that said, I just remember all the times that we laughed. I can still see Kim's laughing face............hear the infectious quality of that laugh. He was exceedingly generous and kind to me a couple of times when I really felt beaten down by my own efforts to promote live looping and we even had some major disagreements about the concept of live looping, but I'd give anything to hear that laugh again. Bless you, Kim! Bless you Violet! love, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 09:29:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1421183C6E; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lAoZfZAkBBsGwm5YQR9pmulhCqM9qd/nvVUt+N3dIRU=; b=ZvBchg4mnX9CMBBTLBplwV8oY64YBW6M347KGmLPwyZ9HfzUA+HKtrH6h8ZI7Hvsix tqDYcJ6m/ahJhAXm7skVqhzI8aPWK2p+/bxKkNIt3ngoV68ZP4Sx7lgf9F3eY9BI5+0S C4eJ26T15geR1xwmprGq9V30mdCGko6qenmQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TmmVzyUAz1rfhNacy6h/dNhCATyy9iDp5gwvKybJ5rfFXSX/rBB8oDkhhV5u4xJ4jR p4cy0I7PjtmAI1Tt/0uzwZYybov2PnlGE4JG2b3Bya5ttO9oWwp4qzamyy9f9hGKCqPY 7foUOaOoDfIUrnCi5aJq6wyScaaJZoyYkCtMc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:29:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Wow. Thanks for your kind words. By leaving a comment, posting it on social websites, downloading and sharing the music is enough. I do have some bandcamp pages over at http://rickygraham.com though. Thank you! Very kind. Ricky On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Wow! What beautiful colors. I was floored from the 1st 1:30min build up and then it took me to another place where I floated around for the remaining 6 and a half minutes. > On Jun 13, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > >> New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb >> Cheers, >> >> Ricky >> http://rickygraham.com >> > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 09:57:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DD02183D20; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_63439b89-40c0-4f90-806a-6833bb4c98fb_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: New Music (+ Granular Looping) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:57:44 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2011 09:57:45.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[82602450:01CC2A79] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:57:46 +0000 (UTC) --_63439b89-40c0-4f90-806a-6833bb4c98fb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VERY cool I like it a lot. Just curious=2C how do you define "granular loop= ing". Thanks for sharing=2CAnders > Date: Tue=2C 14 Jun 2011 00:35:25 +0100 > Subject: New Music (+ Granular Looping) > From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > Cheers=2C >=20 > Ricky > http://rickygraham.com >=20 = --_63439b89-40c0-4f90-806a-6833bb4c98fb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VERY cool I lik= e it a lot. =3BJust =3Bcurious=2C how do you define "granular loopi= ng".

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= = --_63439b89-40c0-4f90-806a-6833bb4c98fb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 10:15:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81C1F183D3C; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FLWUsgY1Y5LHPOldb0pxtrRiPieHvfYVMGma0aGyd4o=; b=UjpaUofG38VU7oKk6lPoZe6OYz2BGtztIKeLe3u2FL+jb/ae949lYigJ4EObbcdXSL yhcnx9zfCqZcPB2EhryDkl1KAMy9xa/oPjkddrHpBbiIxl6y2MRYYegNYsNMxd9gmey4 u3bM+hskC3wX0tcy3jJEt4YCDRwQD1hvhT9sE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TLsmOB1YSB6pgPMgAaovB/prYl9TkHPafxtp1MygnQ+WCFKxXWtxrfdx8Te3tKTibo GrlX9/jDTi32M7mzJ+2VmtDraxn6r1IJq6f+eLFxNJsDfzzENpCNLECiAq9F38GIRC1R 9/Cynhyc00HhBv+7N2/FkZXeK/QLTxMvTDFjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:15:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:15:54 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb My thoughts are that my feelings tell me that I like this music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 10:29:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 634A5183D1D; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dN4ZIcVKbjE2gT+dDqfff380xdcBk+NiGhAwVLzknCU=; b=Gp2kxZg9QBfKP2xUg5mw8JbAHNXOtZ/+w7ZAGKcCZn//Ejbuo21Y80hi9ko+9tr183 FCRMiaxKwqYlbvpr4jYW4qCYv6J1Pf8X4Cte30TB3Lu0YJU1MxqIrHtQhFOPgj+gWGHn kd7LUIDgoco5klub7we96aWlSnZxIWJZI/3N0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ai1dEGZ2i8TSsTWdh/48VgO0zAczNq2+4YvrRSgcKDBW/ywkqSRoA/mZ9ZnqtwuVhH rzPHScTAQ8AzkkXBqcaM/4DmpUl8OKwX/aiHgXCVax45HL00VgjT3Ide7iXqbM1tZFel QJwNKTZqo9BVefVi6TJ3MTOA9Z0JMmFpSyoG4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:21:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:29:04 +0000 (UTC) @Anders Repetition of granular (grains) structure. Anything below, I think, 20ms (cf. Snyder 2000; Bregman 1990) - Singular grains perceived as a unified event. Granted, some buffers are looping larger structures in this piece. If you listen for it, you can hear grain size changing and time of play back (i.e. what rate the phasor is driving, or reading, the audio buffers). @Per Thank you. :) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Ricky Graham > wrote: >> I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > > > My thoughts are that my feelings tell me that I like this music. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 11:40:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 744AB184255; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=D13nse5ONeYJjiVeryS4YhCNg0ahLsBoJaEVBzTJgV0=; b=NA5P9VFLXAWV8r/xnCayVnzW8zwob7YKfIKAE6FcMHcXjxIK/St7jtfCFPd8eEIWt3 H455T6gWyeBJds/AlFR0qokkY++AdmsDp2RLdF+sovKnS1CtZpbyYb/h6zqg2vmG4Yo3 lQWf919DFFYJhOYgfmEAMgmK+5vpikZCfG/sI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=n8EHok/4uQ56+T9vqQXy3SKmYJS4tB1EKg8qF5T/QEew/9HUxPRWJSagqpNXPcCR+j Pr4epe6ei5nl9OwWx1Dbslq73hc7MgWBOOMaCIlrYTzZG5K4XxFkdjz72XuP4frR125q zDl5/ZCFGFksLS94Zaxmx0wwPc1nXzzc/cWbE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:40:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4v8l8.A.wN.ji09NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:40:19 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Jason Finnern wrote: > Maybe I'm crazy...lol...What are your thoughts???? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWYCVig8hEg I think you're right on the spot, Jason! Everyone can make great music that reflects a true personal expression (rather than a lame carbon copy of whatever "more successful" artists this person might try to sound like). To me it appears that more and more people realize that not only the cliches we typically hear on the radio is "good music". In fact "good music" doesn't even need to sound good (!) because it can be interesting listening in so many ways. There are many like-minded people that already are out there making a difference... some that comes to mind are Derek Sivers http://muckwork.com/ and Faza http://thecynicalmusician.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 12:08:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE951183F90; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 633529808/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.103/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.103 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYEAIlO901YbRNn/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgNjzoBAbwnjRuGJASWEYsf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,364,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="633529808" Message-ID: <4DF74F56.6010904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:08:54 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:08:54 +0000 (UTC) If anything you don't go far enough. There's many musicians with zero profile who make music that has a value to me, whereas hardly any of the 'big names' manage that. I agree with Brian Eno that "big gigs" are a social event rather than a music event. andy who would pay $100 to avoid a U2 concert :-) (if we all liked the same music........) Jason Finnern wrote: > > > Maybe I'm crazy...lol...What are your thoughts???? > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWYCVig8hEg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 12:26:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73340183C3E; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E6aCw10DVNiaeCQN1dR1hwuNzmyABlB++/z8YCiGlAc=; b=wgfj0lpTWWpKhvkbS10CIhhWqmNR9+rw2izimMlGkEU+nDhJN9KrWQ2x0dPTkuLtzG 0yT53cBlgPDLstpWyu+RD8oINba/TCubKyvjc6838UQvoeTTiYqFNAeU9/C9MUndEXBa B4FAZsaskuNb6xZGUyepP/zDUgl6Lb0uvOoWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eR0bqiH/2tGb9R/b1niVMTku8jD7cJVoXfO93CEYiUd9kV4zL/d248i9ZasXfmcnlP ebXoYLMXIviTqUNDoweOBYcMGZfOHL2jhZV3RycGdiEZUxNKz+LAKaZUAJ5IG6E5STUs AGxFSjcwXfr8B6gzaKhw5BbmAf7cNRraXsZUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF74F56.6010904@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DF74F56.6010904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:26:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:26:41 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:08 PM, andy butler wrote: > I agree with Brian Eno that "big gigs" are a social > event rather than a music event. So true! Well put by Eno. Thanks for telling! Another thing musicians like us tend to forget about is that for many - maybe the majority - listening to music is not an exploring adventure but rather a shortcut to define one's self image in a social context. "Sad facts of life..." as a record label talent scout once said when discussing the sales improvements to be expected from using an album cover photo that in some way includes a "hot babe". ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 13:24:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07FD7184143; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=EBhYurvMId49o3ap95K3g5NXbnKfCZynpxVZVooWHfw=; b=MvusCkPjr4uKR43FnaZyWxOciazaDSrT20kOrv2Von/o1pcjGfgy1OA8ElQykAmqaF dvacr3SBaaOPK9fpdBHY0ZUwXnWW2j37rJT3QXNEOPF1m+rbuoNyIkN2kRDiwkYM9vat RPdoaX0rgeniTddKhs+ADurmV8ofbBn04nmg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=S1ZrbDoqwnfPYrDKgE4Z4juI85uydBcTx2YpHsg3m1ZQgIzRfPHnMBjUcKFG414dpZ uoYFpfYF+wiPu8wf9GA/uBPAMcBFww92Wc4Y7LIZBZp6AE/AEqPru6Hjq+AReQTgIzbk VlZO3i0VFIhBzu4MMvzp0tuQrUDi/sWysKtNs= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:24:35 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4DF74F56.6010904@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:24:38 +0000 (UTC) I don't think it is something to be frustrated by though. Maybe I make = the wrong assumption that everybody understands that the music business = is a business. If hot babes on the cover sells more records and makes = more money for the business you can't blame them. In my opinion if it = makes you mad, it's related to jealously. Otherwise, why would it affect = you in such a way? If you don't want your music to be associated with making money, then = don't. Play shows for free. Play in room and tape it. Enjoy making music = for music's sake....... but then you need to accept the fact that you = are going to have a zero profile because you are only one person and = not a business that has a PR and marketing division. Your music isn't = going to magically hop into the mind space of millions of people. Of = course the exception is if you make the next viral you tube video that = gets millions of hits:) but you should be happy making music for = yourself/family and friends if that's what your doing it for.... Wait, = why are doing it? What's the point? Do you have something to say and you = want lots of people to hear it. You'r trying to get paid doing something = you love? Your trying to impress the local ladies/dudes? Why? Then once = you've figured that out, make a plan to go for that goal and enjoy the = journey.=20 The reasons everybody has heard of U2 and not the local artist is the = teams of people working full time jobs on their marketing and public = relations over a long period of time. The more money a business can = bring in the more money they can allocate to public relations and = marketing. So what, if at a U2 event, that most people are socializing? It seems so = snobby sometimes people dis the big names, saying it's not about the = music. It is a business that makes music for money. And the reason you = are discussing them, even if its for negative reasons, is because they = were very successful at their business. They bought a ticket and they = should be able to do whatever the hell they want while they are at a = concert. Especially at a stadium rock concert. How could that not be a = massive social event? The people definitely shouldn't have to follow = my/your directions on how to properly attend a concert. Who am I to = dictate what good/bad? We just have our opinions. That really does take = the focus away from the music. Whether they have 1 fan or a million = fans, you either like the music or you don't. Otherwise your focusing on = other aspects than the music which is what those people are usually = spouting off that they are mad about.(business/marketing - aspects)=20 At the end of the day you will be permanently frustrated, if by the = fact, that you can't make people have the same opinion as you or because = the majority of people out there are buying records or going to concerts = that you don't like. If you like U2, fine, if you don't, that's fine too = but if you let it bother you that, for example, you hate Lady Gaga, but = millions of other people love her, then your doomed to be mad dude = because you can only control your own opinions and actions. If you like = to listen some really out shit and there's only two people at the show = at the local pub watching with you.... then who cares that there is only = two people there!! You should be enjoying the music you came to see and = that the end of it. Unless you're worried that what you like, might be = the wrong thing, and you need lots of people at the show to help = validate your opinion........ If your about true art then go see your local symphony play or go see = some good jazz. Learn all about the language of music so you can listen = with trained ears. Rock music or live looping isn't even in the same = universe as a Mahler symphony. Popular music is about fun and I love Led = Zeppelin(business) just as well as my Mahler(art composer)that I love = for it's true art :) And that's my opinion. I'm sure people will completely disagree and I = think that's the point I was striving for. (except I just ended up = blabbing) I think we should be ok with the fact that we are all = different and not put energy into striving that people have the same = opinion I do. For clarification this email isn't directed at anybody. I = just felt like sharing my thoughts as well. Thanks for video Jason. I enjoyed hearing your thoughts, Todd On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:08 PM, andy butler = wrote: >> I agree with Brian Eno that "big gigs" are a social >> event rather than a music event. >=20 > So true! Well put by Eno. Thanks for telling! >=20 > Another thing musicians like us tend to forget about is that for many > - maybe the majority - listening to music is not an exploring > adventure but rather a shortcut to define one's self image in a social > context. >=20 > "Sad facts of life..." as a record label talent scout once said when > discussing the sales improvements to be expected from using an album > cover photo that in some way includes a "hot babe". ;-) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 15:50:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32755184138; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CMAE-OUT-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=phw6L/RlMswJaN5EfF5xkFOeC8WtkeW8GFuOdRMyw1o= c=1 sm=1 a=Z0oSugalrVwA:10 a=sbs2_ZMNFVcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=J3HQUUgj1rIVZEyOUssA:9 a=BQLFG2U9eLpBFQRkpzQA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=bIpfiZevh8TQWWqcgQ8Vuw==:117 X-CMAE-OUT-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> X-HTTP-Received: from bryanhelm.4000003588 [8.24.61.123] by web001.nyc1.bluetie.com (BlueTie WebMail ); Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:50:22 -0400 X-Mailer: BlueTie MTA Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:50:22 -0400 Cc: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Bryan Helm" Importance: normal Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Because Todd used the "J" word- "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch" = Lionel Hampton In a world obsessed with the price of everything and the value of nothing, t= he creative people who bring the most to the table generally get the least i= n return for their efforts.For the most part (in reality) to be popular one = must be a mediocrity, a quiet humble whore whose sole goal in life is to sat= isfy those folks who as Annette Peacock puts it "....cannot see beyond the t= ip of their own need" Music and art exist for the greater good of all manki= nd but those who bring it into being must live and work in a world where mos= t people are incapable of appreciating their work either fiscally or in any = other fashion that would help further the artist's ability to live and creat= e. Even if they do achieve "success" as an artist they must effectively cont= rol the business side of the coin or risk being taken to the cleaners by une= thical associates in their pursuit of commerce. Like cranky old Fripp says "= The first concern of the professional musician is business" and if you've r= ead any of his trials and tribulations connected to trying to obtain payment= contractually owed to him over the many years, you'd have some clues as to = how the system is screwed and you along with it. As to U2 (or "the ute" as I= heard the late John Cunningham of Relativity once refer to them) they could= barely play their instruments 30 plus years ago and they haven't really got= ten any more adept at playing their instruments or composing music since the= n, perhaps especially "show tunes". But I don't have to buy their stuff or l= isten to them against my will, so I don't care, it's just sad that it qualif= ies as industry standard at this point in history. Must be time to practice.= ..rant off. = bryan helm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 15:54:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09A8918413A; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1UUwT6wxtECyy1mnCGZz3hXSo0bJnTTiGdbHL1zScBY=; b=IH7OOQoEzbq1SN/F2p2qaXVTQlQQwTz9kVsro03f9YLhWRwkISDy+kgA4UrKmj8iTD WbX8SZiRieIQe3YOhA7Fi0bMZOiB/shOHJNDLC4TKGgLctu3IKU/kRYVWH2cKS8h5nBP whtjR+uSYtSPtGozyiLVc652tIyrE+7Mf/oCI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j9AC1AuUIVA1/uOGfXBWyiEXH5NN/QW/nnVMKVadltsNlGmxLOfSy0x0M6sCFyltji lkEVuFPWyDpxUWfYhZgllopcS2bq2niP0+nsE8+GwmAeczc0fcNvOPI4cI7UA39QpqST 0M+Dlon5DDZTNOZ6aTQIyreJaq1dmMiJvCkiA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DF74F56.6010904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:54:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304346d4ade51804a5ae0b12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:54:06 +0000 (UTC) --20cf304346d4ade51804a5ae0b12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So what, if at a U2 event, that most people are socializing? It seems so > snobby sometimes people dis the big names, saying it's not about the music. > It is a business that makes music for money. And the reason you are > discussing them, even if its for negative reasons, is because they were very > successful at their business. They bought a ticket and they should be able > to do whatever the hell they want while they are at a concert. Especially at > a stadium rock concert. How could that not be a massive social event? The > people definitely shouldn't have to follow my/your directions on how to > properly attend a concert. Who am I to dictate what good/bad? We just have > our opinions. That really does take the focus away from the music. Whether > they have 1 fan or a million fans, you either like the music or you don't. > Otherwise your focusing on other aspects than the music which is what those > people are usually spouting off that they are mad about.(business/marketing > - aspects) > I resonate with you, Todd. -f --20cf304346d4ade51804a5ae0b12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So what, if at a U2 event, that = most people are socializing? It seems so snobby sometimes people dis the bi= g names, saying it's not about the music. It is a business that makes m= usic for money. And the reason you are discussing them, even if its for neg= ative reasons, is because they were very successful at their business. They= bought a ticket and they should be able to do whatever the hell they want = while they are at a concert. Especially at a stadium rock concert. How coul= d that not be a massive social event? The people definitely shouldn't h= ave to follow my/your directions on how to properly attend a concert. Who a= m I to dictate what good/bad? We just have our opinions. That really does t= ake the focus away from the music. Whether they have 1 fan or a million fan= s, you either like the music or you don't. Otherwise your focusing on o= ther aspects than the music which is what those people are usually spouting= off that they are mad about.(business/marketing - aspects)
I resonate with you, Todd.
=A0
-f
--20cf304346d4ade51804a5ae0b12-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 15:57:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E430C18413C; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l5Tvb7Edpr7yri9xoyRdw/H7li+lxppECaXzGu1Y4ZA=; b=hQ7oWqj8he4MC27B2aW0Wgz0GmnwnZ1AtqkEB/2w7pzfdoQvz4Xe3Sowop3fUYR4r2 h51OVWiVM4ZIkSWhaEmmkLqXDY9MVepBpojXfQw2Ov6G9k7dSDseWhgawDUJQ+Yy6bJQ 2RskyhFN69LbkaxZEPD+Pilh1+vk+pxN3mMuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Z5vkLHCtpLqWLv6zNo89e9IaUEMfRKGjeH/ERN7PVpcR10BUzi2wgCAlSO2P02eyKY NHA84AUYvU+EFHtuoUj2dFrCCyFTRvoHZtRELwpu0MJDcVynvrigNHgq4RcvqAtdCNXx LqLDzIh2HNLlObXUbcsZ3ZUNAJOoYkbAZ58sQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:57:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5485e022200ed04a5ae1968 Resent-Message-ID: <55e-ZC.A.HXC.AU49NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:57:52 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5485e022200ed04a5ae1968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Beautiful indeed. Bravo ! -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/6/14 Ricky Graham > New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > Cheers, > > Ricky > http://rickygraham.com > > --bcaec5485e022200ed04a5ae1968 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beautiful indeed. Bravo !
=A0
-f
www.eterogeneo.com

<= /div>
2011/6/14 Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com&g= t;
New sounds. I would appreciate y= our thoughts: http://snd= .sc/lf6Ijb
Cheers,

Ricky
http://rickygraham.com


--bcaec5485e022200ed04a5ae1968-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:06:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44083184139; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Reyn Ouwehand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--952122790 Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:05:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <0E86695A-6CBF-49B3-80C4-B89329BF5489@reyn.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QWW7s-0007U3-0K X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.899, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: <8Ot4HD.A.GmC.qb49NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:06:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--952122790 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow, this is amazing.. Cheers, Reyn. > 2011/6/14 Ricky Graham > New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > Cheers, > > Ricky > http://rickygraham.com > > --Apple-Mail-1--952122790 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Wow, this is amazing.. 

Cheers,

Reyn.

2011/6/14 Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb
Cheers,

Ricky
http://rickygraham.com



--Apple-Mail-1--952122790-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:06:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF21B184152; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gfk477VdMQcKl9OGCWu625EpnR45PFHfmcqEhGOZXOE=; b=QlCteIgaXWR/wnKzbjPeKCmij69z5W1DJCFSLZZwhkA/QmIZkCcpo8z++A/VByD4Fg jfvdWt3nU8cgSvo/7jwWZWBiv4LqbZpKssxDVIfp4eHjeqEQ8kSqzi3ah3hXNi6PofZl Qpw7mQFtfnoW0hzHRccEooPBYDdWk5PfhSczc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wkpxRAo6LmErceIx92cUPNF/g/TUeTTOQ8x1UxSV9tB+Fvr6UJBpBJmxm23IqxhHQV OdTqJRSx6qTWpttBYSFa48F4H+nar92qkrFVJAeZ33tykJCrd3RCgu4x3Kd94iTGANcK u0KOnDMMYsA8EQshRaXA85EeXvqtD02JiYNKI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:06:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:06:04 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm wrote= : > Because Todd used the "J" word- > > "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lionel Hampton > > . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of Relativit= y once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 30 plus year= s ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at >playing their instr= uments or composing music since then, perhaps especially "show tunes". But = I don't have to buy their stuff or listen to them against my will, so I don= 't care, it's just sad that it qualifies >as industry standard at this poin= t in history. Must be time to practice...rant off. I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting and talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a decade or so now. I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think. They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm willing to bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with the Edge if they ever had the chance. I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians for what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think its misplaced. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:18:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43EFA184148; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--951347427 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:54 -0700 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: <4467788A-E85A-468A-9CC2-48A7F6DA7D25@trufun.com> References: <4DF74F56.6010904@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:18:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--951347427 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My philosophy is that any time I am being paid to play music it's a good = thing. I always give my best to the gig, and take it on its own terms. If I'm playing at the Farmers' Market, I don't expect to get anyone's = attention at all because I am incidental to the reason people are there. = So every bit of response I get, every dollar in the tip jar, is gravy. I = play that gig for the $75 and for an opportunity to spend four hours = playing whatever the hell I want, from 20-minute improvs to old James = Taylor songs to multiple iterations of a new song I'm working on. I can = take my entire songbook out for a lap aroudn the track. When I play house concerts, everyone is in that room to hear me and I = enjoy the hell out of their attention. I can tell stories, play nothing = but original music, improvise, take requests or not, even answer = questions and converse with the audience. In a bar, opening for an electric band, I have to keep it lively. I = consider it a challenge to get people's attention when the majority of = them don't give a shit that I'm even there. Convert a few of those and = it's a big win; if the whole goddamn roomful keep yakking through my set = because they're just holding their spots on the floor til the headliner = takes the stage, that's show biz. Festivals, you can hear yourself think and if it's daytime to can look = people in the eye and make contact from a hundred yards away. That's = another worthwhile exercise. And so on. The other side of this equation is that nobody is being paid to listen. = Once I figured that part out, I stopped feeling even slightly precious = about this stuff. --Apple-Mail-6--951347427 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii >> event rather than a music event. > > > > So true! Well put by Eno. Thanks for telling! > > > > Another thing musicians like us tend to forget about is that for many > > - maybe the majority - listening to music is not an exploring > > adventure but rather a shortcut to define one's self image in a social > > context. > > > > "Sad facts of life..." as a record label talent scout once said when > > discussing the sales improvements to be expected from using an album > > cover photo that in some way includes a "hot babe". ;-) > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > --0015174bef9235c45104a5ae66bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you everyone....Everything is well received
=A0
<= div>Just to clear something up...My video in particular had nothing to do w= ith the band U2. I just happen to use them as an example to get my point ac= ross of where I want my money to go from now on....I'm personally done = making the rich bands richer when there are artist out there that are just = as talented in there own way not being acknowledged in a financial way for = there efforts.....
=A0
Thanks;
=A0
Jason
=A0


=A0
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6= :24 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think it is something to be frustr= ated by though. Maybe I make the wrong assumption that everybody understand= s that the music business is a business. If hot babes on the cover sells mo= re records and makes more money for the business you can't blame them. = In my opinion if it makes you mad, it's related to jealously. Otherwise= , why would it affect you in such a way?

If you don't want your music to be associated with making money, then d= on't. Play shows for free. Play in room and tape it. Enjoy making music= for music's sake....... but then you need to accept the fact that you = are going to have a =A0zero profile because you are only one person and not= a business that has a PR and marketing division. Your music isn't goin= g to magically hop into the mind space of millions of people. Of course the= exception is if you make the next viral you tube video that gets millions = of hits:) but you should be happy making music for yourself/family and frie= nds if that's what your doing it for.... Wait, why are doing it? What&#= 39;s the point? Do you have something to say and you want lots of people to= hear it. You'r trying to get paid doing something you love? Your tryin= g to impress the local ladies/dudes? Why? Then once you've figured that= out, make a plan to go for that goal and enjoy the journey.

The reasons everybody has heard of U2 and not the local artist is the teams= of people working full time jobs on their marketing and public relations o= ver a long period of time. The more money a business can bring in the more = money they can allocate to public relations and marketing.

So what, if at a U2 event, that most people are socializing? It seems so sn= obby sometimes people dis the big names, saying it's not about the musi= c. It is a business that makes music for money. And the reason you are disc= ussing them, even if its for negative reasons, is because they were very su= ccessful at their business. They bought a ticket and they should be able to= do whatever the hell they want while they are at a concert. Especially at = a stadium rock concert. How could that not be a massive social event? The p= eople definitely shouldn't have to follow my/your directions on how to = properly attend a concert. Who am I to dictate what good/bad? We just have = our opinions. That really does take the focus away from the music. Whether = they have 1 fan or a million fans, you either like the music or you don'= ;t. Otherwise your focusing on other aspects than the music which is what t= hose people are usually spouting off that they are mad about.(business/mark= eting - aspects)

At the end of the day you will be permanently frustrated, if by the fact, t= hat you can't make people have the same opinion as you or because the m= ajority of people out there are buying records or going to concerts that yo= u don't like. If you like U2, fine, if you don't, that's fine t= oo but if you let it bother you that, for example, you hate Lady Gaga, but = millions of other people love her, then your doomed to be mad dude because = you can only control your own opinions and actions. If you like to listen s= ome really out shit and there's only two people at the show at the loca= l pub watching with you.... then who cares that there is only two people th= ere!! You should be enjoying the music you came to see and that the end of = it. Unless you're worried that what you like, might be the wrong thing,= and you need lots of people at the show to help validate your opinion.....= ...

If your about true art then go see your local symphony play or go see some = good jazz. Learn all about the language of music so you can listen with tra= ined ears. Rock music or live looping isn't even in the same universe a= s a Mahler symphony. Popular music is about fun and I love Led Zeppelin(bus= iness) just as well as my Mahler(art composer)that I love for it's true= art :)

And that's my opinion. I'm sure people will completely disagree and= I think that's the point I was striving for. (except I just ended up b= labbing) I think we should be ok with the fact that we are all different an= d not put energy into striving that people have the same opinion I do. For = clarification this email isn't directed at anybody. I just felt like sh= aring my thoughts as well.

Thanks for video Jason. I enjoyed hearing your thoughts,

Todd

On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:08 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> I agree with Brian Eno that "big gigs" are a social
>> event rather than a music event.
>
> So true! Well put by Eno. Thanks for telling!
>
> Another thing musicians like us tend to forget about is that for many<= br> > - maybe the majority - listening to music is not an exploring
> adventure but rather a shortcut to define one's self image in a so= cial
> context.
>
> "Sad facts of life..." as a record label talent scout once s= aid when
> discussing the sales improvements to be expected from using an album > cover photo that in some way includes a "hot babe". ;-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.c= om
> www.looproom.com= internet music hub
>

--------------------
Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876


--0015174bef9235c45104a5ae66bd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:20:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E53D618416B; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d61c2d10-01fc-4c9f-8c33-3767ce722027_" X-Originating-IP: [86.141.148.15] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: New Music (+ Granular Looping) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:20:51 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2011 16:20:52.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[07F34A90:01CC2AAF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) --_d61c2d10-01fc-4c9f-8c33-3767ce722027_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More please Ricky - subtle and beautiful=2C Thank you. peace G Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ Date: Tue=2C 14 Jun 2011 17:57:51 +0200 Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: eterogenus@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Beautiful indeed. Bravo ! =20 -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/6/14 Ricky Graham New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb Cheers=2C Ricky http://rickygraham.com = --_d61c2d10-01fc-4c9f-8c33-3767ce722027_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More please Ricky - subtle and beautiful=2C Thank you.

p= eace

G

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Date: Tue= =2C 14 Jun 2011 17:57:51 +0200
Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Loopin= g)
From: eterogenus@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=

Beautiful indeed. Bravo !
 =3B
-f
2011/6/14 Ricky Graham <= =3Brickygrahammusic@gmail.com= >=3B
New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb
Cheers=2C

Ricky
http://rickygraham.com


= = --_d61c2d10-01fc-4c9f-8c33-3767ce722027_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:21:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B9BF183F28; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> From: richard sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:22:12 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Yea... music is like sex. It's totally psychological. There are no hard an= d fast rules other than maybe "Whatever gets you to heaven." But even that h= as some loopholes, some abusers, some tweakers and some razor wire. With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of tru= th. respectfully, Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrot= e: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm wrot= e: >> Because Todd used the "J" word- >>=20 >> "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch" >> = Lionel Hampton >>=20 >> . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of Relativit= y once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 30 plus years= ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at >playing their instrum= ents or composing music since then, perhaps especially "show tunes". But I d= on't have to buy their stuff or listen to them against my will, so I don't c= are, it's just sad that it qualifies >as industry standard at this point in h= istory. Must be time to practice...rant off. >=20 > I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting and > talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a > decade or so now. I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and > actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think. > They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm willing to > bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with > the Edge if they ever had the chance. >=20 > I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians for > what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think its > misplaced. >=20 > Kevin >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.= >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:32:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2FE318417F; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FKk5zFRIEFCRJyqzeIDaupjOdGuxtmWGESiiYpKlamc=; b=epy0v/6AywQC/NPTtfXMyoAA/qmuUNh4MuixKUMuUPAAMFoW9MgTj4O6Ie0czjOp1q 9OFCgXd44JH4kw190EFrXpk7PfHzHOmvBhjoLigpO6QAvrbg+WJMxaCwwzPonOZhVkvI oSmPjIfzscRiBG6togZqsJ6bisrc3OZJOjgsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BJBXgChTpEgphF3o5rQKUzxGYvbuag1m9Dg5OdreOWVTacDaS7Cruyl3oECnpdTXOZ gnDJEZ87bCG2o63vEHNPkZYMvL5DWwJaZcpQmAgVn9Ljw7mMFJ2XKf1U58T4YdVkvphl 7VrJuqPeCjuP4lrQ/XjALd05bNeHJstKG8uIk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:32:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanks guys. I'll be posting more over the next while. http://facebook.com/signalsundertests (for more info on project) Ricky On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > More please Ricky - subtle and beautiful, Thank you. > peace > G > > Gareth, Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > ________________________________ > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:57:51 +0200 > Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) > From: eterogenus@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Beautiful indeed. Bravo ! > > -f > www.eterogeneo.com > > 2011/6/14 Ricky Graham > > New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > Cheers, > > Ricky > http://rickygraham.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:32:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E36018418F; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=g4M7sKkx4sDprnnOUY2L64A/ksG8duthr4oi8sHkpyE=; b=LbvR4MKOkQNv6H8daD9E9DzyY78xqi7K08D2BubIzTLZXl8tNmv2uSYdy5Rwh7Pjl4 DHHwWx3LTcZjYUUbiRBSEIfOBR/l7WZQ5t35wHCbN+koQv4D0Ici/LgkKzGUW0dPErlC 6UqId/+6ug+DV6R5F2I9o4YJfHlSoJwiH97J8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=R6imZVPrS+WUquT/EbsnLibKoel3bwD8N5YftijwtTieLSAcMVtkqF5pKp1A+vm5x8 6QMt9vRu4syEQMLCLk0JDnQHonSM+kaq8sWu9IMkGO9CW9G1GMPJbER7MmP7u0dGHNOT uRitj/LVDyB9gHe1EaBmdlAx9+ABs+GW5XjZg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:32:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174737aaf8d1b904a5ae943a Resent-Message-ID: <-NCJB.A.VpD.e049NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:32:30 +0000 (UTC) --0015174737aaf8d1b904a5ae943a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable God, Richard, that was beautifully put! On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, richard sales wrot= e: > Yea... music is like sex. It's totally psychological. There are no hard > and fast rules other than maybe "Whatever gets you to heaven." But even > that has some loopholes, some abusers, some tweakers and some razor wire. > > With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of > truth. > > respectfully, > > Richard Sales > Sent from my IPad > www.glasswing.com > > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm > wrote: > >> Because Todd used the "J" word- > >> > >> "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch" > >> > Lionel Hampton > >> > >> . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of > Relativity once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 3= 0 > plus years ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at >playing > their instruments or composing music since then, perhaps especially "show > tunes". But I don't have to buy their stuff or listen to them against my > will, so I don't care, it's just sad that it qualifies >as industry stand= ard > at this point in history. Must be time to practice...rant off. > > > > I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting and > > talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a > > decade or so now. I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and > > actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think. > > They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm willing to > > bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with > > the Edge if they ever had the chance. > > > > I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians for > > what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think its > > misplaced. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174737aaf8d1b904a5ae943a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable God, Richard, that was beautifully put!=A0


On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, richard sales &l= t;richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
Yea... music is like sex. =A0It's total= ly psychological. =A0There are no hard and fast rules other than maybe &quo= t;Whatever gets you to heaven." =A0But even that has some loopholes, s= ome abusers, some tweakers and some razor wire.

With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of tr= uth.

respectfully,

Richard Sales
Sent from my IPad
www.glasswing.com


On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm <bryanhelm@openrange.net> wrote:
>> Because Todd used the "J" word-
>>
>> "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch&q= uot;
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lionel Hampton
>>
>> . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunnin= gham of Relativity once refer to them) they could barely play their instrum= ents 30 plus years ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at= >playing their instruments or composing music since then, perhaps espec= ially "show tunes". But I don't have to buy their stuff or li= sten to them against my will, so I don't care, it's just sad that i= t qualifies >as industry standard at this point in history. Must be time= to practice...rant off.
>
> I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting a= nd
> talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a<= br> > decade or so now. =A0I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and
> actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think.
> They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm will= ing to
> bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with<= br> > the Edge if they ever had the chance.
>
> I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians for=
> what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think = its
> misplaced.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>




--
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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015174737aaf8d1b904a5ae943a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:37:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B1DA18418E; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OgbKkNv6sX7HOvoZ0vz0A5tdtbCvLXGAdmChDY62Zn0=; b=NVjOLaHQnoyRKyT5JHPA1AJgw9inp614RRzObPlRtAWmCfhPUSyqiKRl7ty1kP+BKX b7mgHe6wKyAyvkd2VFgykzv3b32xRcbhQBoPJfDzGFy6B3MkYsmSXQ8h0pmqGAnWL5fe aXzxAmjgnpC2UsHDBYbRZw3tqVc4VpBsyDJc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=INIFLA8E0VVMRzhYSaUE+Gl7HxavaXrit7g0Z/6Qtf7hhGjRBqMXM5MkM+aUboKcq0 JUgYXD3rDBhpKJzMpVJEXoAVLW46xRMxt2axq3URzTk3TFS/HqcNmPnY9lqQU/vwMJNg PT0VHJww4thFAVwPheEa9aTlKyxqRl4XZktFs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:37:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1aaa61c76a04a5aea814 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:37:57 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1aaa61c76a04a5aea814 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Todd....I'm going to check it out right now On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > God, Richard, that was beautifully put! > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, richard sales wr= ote: > >> Yea... music is like sex. It's totally psychological. There are no har= d >> and fast rules other than maybe "Whatever gets you to heaven." But even >> that has some loopholes, some abusers, some tweakers and some razor wire= . >> >> With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of >> truth. >> >> respectfully, >> >> Richard Sales >> Sent from my IPad >> www.glasswing.com >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >> wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm >> wrote: >> >> Because Todd used the "J" word- >> >> >> >> "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch" >> >> >> Lionel Hampton >> >> >> >> . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of >> Relativity once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments = 30 >> plus years ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at >playing >> their instruments or composing music since then, perhaps especially "sho= w >> tunes". But I don't have to buy their stuff or listen to them against my >> will, so I don't care, it's just sad that it qualifies >as industry stan= dard >> at this point in history. Must be time to practice...rant off. >> > >> > I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting and >> > talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a >> > decade or so now. I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and >> > actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think. >> > They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm willing to >> > bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with >> > the Edge if they ever had the chance. >> > >> > I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians for >> > what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think its >> > misplaced. >> > >> > Kevin >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a >> > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> trouble. >> > >> > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> > >> > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > > =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever > music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page > . > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > > > --0015174c1aaa61c76a04a5aea814 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Todd....I'm going to check it out right now

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com= > wrote:
God, Richard, that was beautifully put!=A0


On Tue, Jun= 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
Yea... music is like sex. =A0It's totally = psychological. =A0There are no hard and fast rules other than maybe "W= hatever gets you to heaven." =A0But even that has some loopholes, some= abusers, some tweakers and some razor wire.

With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of tr= uth.

respectfully,

Richard Sales
Sent from my IPad
www.glasswing.com


On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm <bryanhelm@openrange.net> wrot= e:
>> Because Todd used the "J" word-
>>
>> "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch&q= uot;
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lionel Hampton
>>
>> . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunnin= gham of Relativity once refer to them) they could barely play their instrum= ents 30 plus years ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at= >playing their instruments or composing music since then, perhaps espec= ially "show tunes". But I don't have to buy their stuff or li= sten to them against my will, so I don't care, it's just sad that i= t qualifies >as industry standard at this point in history. Must be time= to practice...rant off.
>
> I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting a= nd
> talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a<= br> > decade or so now. =A0I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and
> actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think.
> They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm will= ing to
> bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with<= br> > the Edge if they ever had the chance.
>
> I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians for=
> what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think = its
> misplaced.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>




-- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.




--0015174c1aaa61c76a04a5aea814-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:45:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 252B1184198; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 630312301/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.103/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.103 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8CAKiP901YbRNn/2dsb2JhbAAMFDKYDZgwwQ+GJASWEYsf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,365,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="630312301" Message-ID: <4DF79029.9090201@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:45:29 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <4DF74F56.6010904@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:45:25 +0000 (UTC) > So what, if at a U2 event, that most people are socializing? I don't think anyone yet expressed a negative opinion about that. I *did* dis their music tho. ;-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:52:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41842183FB9; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--949324095 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:52:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:52:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--949324095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > humbled by the greased pig of truth that is a quote for the ages!! too funny Richard Bill --Apple-Mail-1--949324095 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
humbled by the greased pig of truth


that is a quote for the ages!! too funny Richard
 Bill
--Apple-Mail-1--949324095-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 16:54:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0086184143; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: RE: New Music (+ Granular Looping) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:53:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:54:02 +0000 (UTC) sublime!! just lovely Ricky,I think every thing tastes better with loop granuals!! Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 17:09:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1702918418B; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vT9vkN3vVXssH3Ov7r/wQUs/sfIFjNPEFFf4aeKIi4A= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=Z0oSugalrVwA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=minF468GAAAA:8 a=kpHFvfvXAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=Oqs70H1SkQU9k1TBtZsA:9 a=ZOrxNUbs8PapZ7VxeHUA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4cVImmVCcT8A:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:09:01 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 44 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Amen to both Kevin and Richard here . . . On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:22 AM, richard sales wrote: > Yea... music is like sex. It's totally psychological. There are no > hard and fast rules other than maybe "Whatever gets you to heaven." > But even that has some loopholes, some abusers, some tweakers and some > razor wire. > > With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig > of truth. > > respectfully, > > Richard Sales > Sent from my IPad > www.glasswing.com > > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm >> wrote: >>> Because Todd used the "J" word- >>> >>> "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch" >>> >>> Lionel Hampton >>> >>> . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of >>> Relativity once refer to them) they could barely play their >>> instruments 30 plus years ago and they haven't really gotten any >>> more adept at >playing their instruments or composing music since >>> then, perhaps especially "show tunes". But I don't have to buy their >>> stuff or listen to them against my will, so I don't care, it's just >>> sad that it qualifies >as industry standard at this point in >>> history. Must be time to practice...rant off. >> >> I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting and >> talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a >> decade or so now. I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and >> actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think. >> They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm willing to >> bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with >> the Edge if they ever had the chance. >> >> I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians >> for >> what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think its >> misplaced. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have >> a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 17:18:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 515FC184197; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Tp5hTy+f0AHCpKSGmm9JSiJgb5kwiicE2SimuygewIM=; b=oe2wNwZUaIGdx/wDX6hV3aLxkJCAhB7BbdVQQ7EJw3ydgZFWHlds0X5eSG4SoyPepc FAGtMFcWIViPqvgS+SlZ8ONXHXqjCC1x17r5XmRU1CD3y/fd+CJpycYjTkaPqgRWzk34 1pkpJ9a0WzPY8BO8xnTRksVf3vsK0K5aWA2RU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZVetUqUe/0FvtknM1mkaofdGyUd7CYkyji+UPPTcTaf7SgnPOAmeX3y7ZFI1P+MydK EJUJTpY+/mnBBMXCWiF04EcJFFkvrkXuBBUHWKRRhnpgsAOYOn12mqkKrSgO4ZLVw+uk 4IqOIK+IMxpzhJYDW+eKT4wQXvq1W8QxccVJs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:18:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1736b1e8cd04a5af3adc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1736b1e8cd04a5af3adc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Btw....If any of you have a cd for sale or there is a way to donate to your art please send me a link....I really want to support all of you in any way that I can.. Thanks, Jason On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:52 AM, William Walker wrote: > humbled by the greased pig of truth > > > > that is a quote for the ages!! too funny Richard > Bill > --0015174c1736b1e8cd04a5af3adc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Btw....If any of you have a cd for sale or there is a way to donate to= your art please send me a link....I really want to support all of you in a= ny way that I can..
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Jason

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:52 = AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
humbled by the= greased pig of truth


that= is a quote for the ages!! too funny Richard
=A0Bill

--0015174c1736b1e8cd04a5af3adc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 17:20:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDFBC18419A; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=kwNtnsn7bZly1Fkv1CyPfzjpXEcxDy+L2YSTtmjb6b3rYTcWITyAuNFy5iYTGLaa6UgOzcEhhmiHvO86iEcw6aiFEFHwasARizs+x60gTVdCyeokeQ/TU9ecrROCh3cF; Message-ID: <20110614122018.y07inwf6pwg4o44c@login.bluehost.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:20:18 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <5-LAwD.A.KMF.Uh59NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:20:20 +0000 (UTC) > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:52 AM, William Walker > wrote: > >> humbled by the greased pig of truth >> >> >> >> that is a quote for the ages!! too funny Richard >> Bill >> > Great quote, indeed -- I just copied it to my Facebook status (with the proper attribution). -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 17:31:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28A861841A7; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qQB7s2L9ckSxabnU+SqhfMcMighFB1XlH7caqjFCkxA=; b=honH0ruwQVgF8iqBe0XoJl6uK5bGXnlXOvvW7jLinJevrrvVqV9oxZELy0Za13bP5+ ZzZip2jK5m5QAsdA3qWKEJ3M1eQo/etysziTZb50QnCLr55C3zGy3LSA1gk1neTCIEcT BMu9St8z7ggE05C/wegVwbqjz8RWNJK86KVyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J9JP3zEv+3Z7GfFtWnfqzEZwfLFnnt2kcH/MwQSFA8UvShbrAuQ8s6sf3t2sCKPmnZ cP6t86g5FIAcE984u7eFL8PK57Pcqm0UsTy5W7j/2327v1x0XSlNWUa4CG4SXPKXcoqx GO9hAxKP0+QmwkSRLIqnNBE9qOsiyAg0CDjxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:31:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Cheers Bill! On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > sublime!! =A0just lovely Ricky,I think every thing tastes better with loo= p > granuals!! > =A0Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 17:42:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2033A183E37; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yRvDugi42J2v2QrOC9GxW7vT7eQlEA6g5eZdmP4TWhI=; b=O9TERplF1ZPeDLuyg5cMXyTGNv3VrsIyf0jtO8c34SOV0HbeTMAXaWW7TNS4KkcKl8 0iFc/G6ruPsV7+4Uiy5YYQv36+NnR555RHHJOoL9nbx/hdAr0cDcecjqZSjbadpr2NnH EW7wOxqF8/FcEDPqrI8NYacwaUBoAzZqTeERo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZcoxhrKqUE26RMhxMXm90scdlugZJzJmbx/8lMbOn9bwk+KS81oQR04KFDvRFsObrm 9FGsxHzLIXEPJY38JLAwVoCYqJx8so2EGtSBzLrqx3z+8hUz56klanmaduRppbkONjHc 5j1o6JhHYQPAkvjF99dvVVAgWkCncG0ilkPzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:42:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:42:12 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Bryan Helm wrote= : > As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of Relativity = once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 30 plus years = ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at playing their instrume= nts or composing music since then I remember hearing U2 for the first time as they released their first album in 1980 and I think they were just as good back then as they are today ;-)) "Good at playing instruments" or "good at composing" doesn't have much to do with the U2 qualities that I like. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 18:17:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E7AC1840BB; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--944214991 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:17:46 -0700 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: <13A7E712-0436-4798-B3B6-82F190237E2D@trufun.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:17:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--944214991 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans On Jun 14, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Jason Finnern wrote: > Btw....If any of you have a cd for sale or there is a way to donate to = your art please send me a link....I really want to support all of you in = any way that I can.. >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-2--944214991 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans



On Jun 14, 2011, at = 10:18 AM, Jason Finnern wrote:


david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-2--944214991-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 18:17:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73BAB184173; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r4pEBMCAVEbFLiFTSXUPh+HTHlciAniiYBm6ubpVL9E=; b=c9wuheDpxZbZW5cwt61o0dHtA45k1AS1G7DRB30nApdPYhj8LwZjlJOJW9TCzh62gI rc+EXBlqID0zab6vMJJiULTvJMQNxv9zQZLMCnSHDTBqilpLT++MlauLBmFLCkgPDS8C m+eShXsnaPjhPaEcfvBnVMhlvUhF8kHUSNNfU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=X2oKA4HL4mePldw/SH42OhrYrA2kwzRn0lEZq8v4L699UPNUaVsMXkSyHz6exVfzPt hO155CGDz/kZg1nwdZoioyQCdm5D1hNDowpH92Wdnaf1HLvLB6xN277nXYrU9nvucLBK XvRb/f01na6qhxZ4fMfLVZ8J+A/auSe7D7964= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:17:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Lindsey Walker To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:17:56 +0000 (UTC) I learned something from that video about the way you approach your creativity and the bravery you have in expressing yourself. I like the idea of accepting one's own art individually and having compassion for production values (or the lack of.) Thanks! Lindsey On Tuesday, June 14, 2011, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Bryan Helm wro= te: >> As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of Relativity= once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 30 plus years= ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at playing their instrum= ents or composing music since then > > > I remember hearing U2 for the first time as they released their first > album in 1980 and I think they were just as good back then as they are > today ;-)) =A0"Good at playing instruments" or "good at composing" > doesn't have much to do with the U2 qualities that I like. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 18:31:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36A3C184139; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rTqb+99MQXK/O+W1VFa/7Q)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-14_08:2011-06-14,2011-06-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106140140 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:31:29 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> Message-id: <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <9As1T.A.P3G.bk69NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:31:55 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_rTqb+99MQXK/O+W1VFa/7Q) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thinking about adding my own two cents to this compelling thread when I saw this comment. > With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of truth. What could be more true? Were there no paying gigs Were there no food in the fridge Were there no laptop with which to explore Looper's Delight Were there no collection of guitars (or even one guitar with a single broken string) I would still be making music. Every day. Every night. Until the hands and the ears stop working. And then, I will find another way. La Musique, ces ma raison d'etre. I cannot imagine my life with out her. Though I am grateful for every $$ made in pursuit of musical disciplines, it is not the dollars the linger after a good performance. The transformational power of music, the true gift in music, is greatly diminished when we burden the muse with mundane expectation. How many brilliant artists have snuffed their creative fire because they believed it to be at crossed purposes with paying bills and being a responsible person? / Music demands much of us. It is not an easy path. But the reward, for me anyhow, is incalculable and can never be expressed in currencies. With great love for all struggling artists Daniel --Boundary_(ID_rTqb+99MQXK/O+W1VFa/7Q) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable With time, our = pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of = truth.

--0015174c1736ada67204a5b13d12-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 20:43:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C104184145; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 973812.69758.bm@omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308084216; bh=Tds8sI6CoL5oHgZbgkrD+APPlB+ATscHop60+GCyj7s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pDUksrcNPX/PHhKdDLzev4ZUdwbmWg9DKAJwSXTCz1C3p6P4CLDY/tXQOoJ75IEct27RVahIgccuK3IBRQqJs8X5zM6vTABGgb0uRjPxdztsDPWvrVp+eDTJtQlgB1rvCNNZn7xQdPtqUWJU6GEw+uXNRs1WaLt2rsY63li+yJ4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bFbTXiUX6Sn1PmNF3LwrtbC9WQ1tMxxx/bdUKo0+F9jPPxrE6FpKXTv7W5vlVUHkSjvz9c3Wnj5+IPrKYgW7K3lhhgECxiCX7hoJ/L2yh7GCHjDIPPywYvrMwnszUobsDZW2OuVb83wBaKAg32npKGoAVvNoR0iwSbXM1fhpJ1s=; Message-ID: <474336.45659.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vOxjFtAVM1nB9ICh6._N2naCM1e63cAun5s8X1jOzzIJs_7 gS1ZZgcxUtrhbYeAm.7kINFxVn99oSRiQT4Oh3wQUVmHVuAoa6Yj.qkVPTKk gwTGogGHjqMzUw0ztHGQzXRNlkq.6_PIjYTh.lO632BwcRLsqCzEBr_W6V10 vValh_JqP_L8OI6GB1GwlKcT0CyR_JwPhjebqytc2ID4iSuRyzXLxm6QkVTo l8dnKBUDs0FdpMuDeolDMMwYh1UluPL5m5LWrCsgz2AQoynb93J0b1QJevub JTm6y_ovJIGOZdO0nXqNJXozNrFMVjAVewzckS5T1zDqfaZ8YHEE4x2xXYyT aAqT6FbxVA7JvBiLUnGbQC303Q.jLnXcKyaGGokFK3PEO_MDst6iHsAslW6v y2PgcC3plxQhsEeOu1FyJCTGvUqNIEbR0GFiQxE7Enw1xozy58XG9F58P6wT MuIkk0y8CDIyTXoYfBqrKuGqHY8A.t4Hrk8qAl6wfePwGaTCQMsqd9XatHUv yE60vDi3cH0DR7.iJneFkyGVoi3wNPd9LaP0bI81hCHeGedLhGB7fr3aXi2H Mhr3sWAaFg8fNlyNSL4XpUusZh95DtRGeb5cLXbDv0GCW3c0OPUFbpDsMztQ NDrx8ZjTZJssmuOCtbmQPKI6u X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1702605836-1308084216=:45659" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:43:38 +0000 (UTC) --0-1702605836-1308084216=:45659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber? --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: From: Kevin Cheli-Colando Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 12:06 PM On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm wrote= : > Because Todd used the "J" word- > > "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lionel Hampton > > . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of Relativit= y once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 30 plus year= s ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at >playing their instr= uments or composing music since then, perhaps especially "show tunes". But = I don't have to buy their stuff or listen to them against my will, so I don= 't care, it's just sad that it qualifies >as industry standard at this poin= t in history. Must be time to practice...rant off. I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting and talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a decade or so now.=A0 I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think. They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm willing to bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with the Edge if they ever had the chance. I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians for what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think its misplaced. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --0-1702605836-1308084216=:45659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber?

= --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>= wrote:

From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.co= m>
Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone
To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 12:06= PM

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm <bryanhelm@openrange.net&= gt; wrote:
> Because Todd used the "J" word-
>
> "America= ns love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch"
>     =                      = ;                     &nb= sp;                     &= nbsp;               Lionel Hampton
&g= t;
> . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of = Relativity once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 30 = plus years ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at >playing= their instruments or composing music since then, perhaps especially "show tunes". But I don't have to buy their stuff or listen to them against my w= ill, so I don't care, it's just sad that it qualifies >as industry stand= ard at this point in history. Must be time to practice...rant off.

I= dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting and
tale= nted enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a
decade= or so now.  I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and
actually = a slight to the intended point of this thread I think.
They're very inve= ntive for a popular band I think and I'm willing to
bet anyone on this l= ist would have a very good time talking gear with
the Edge if they ever = had the chance.

I just have a hard time with people slagging off pop= ular musicians for
what basically seems to be the fact that they're popu= lar; I think its
misplaced.

Kevin


--
Till now you = seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
V= ideo htt= p://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

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http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
You know me as Harpcat on YouTube  ;-)

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131
  &nb= sp;         
http://l= mgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+

 http:= //www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc=
http://www.c= dbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten  &nbs= p;    

--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Jas= on Finnern <jasonfinnern@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jason Finnern <jasonfinnern@gmail.com>
Subj= ect: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone
To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 12:18 PM

Btw....If any of you have a cd for sale or ther= e is a way to donate to your art please send me a link....I really want to = support all of you in any way that I can..
 
Thank= s,
 
=0AJason

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:52 AM, William Walker <billwalk= er@baymoon.com> wrote:
=0A
humbled by the greased pig of truth


that is a quote for the ages!= ! too funny Richard
=0A
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--0-1121553793-1308086639=:92153-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 21:50:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA3D018408C; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1USDXcCoeur5PefyOGHIZADCY7F7UoZYrKqZiIc2Cfc=; b=s2ce0hIMl7JwcHeLzy+9eZpTsL0ZQPAlcSUOUx8nH6ttG81fv9Y1wQjoftt0qn8ZPB QgMp8FbcjbicnlY72lm8UUmyli97YVf4vTu2si1P0BaTGz0cdMFSIhnU2ejqkbwRgFAC TbHWn7Mx9gH0JugcloZkIMkfKkNlpXQ5hYyIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XGIAztlTlPW4WVzWQwiufbXhC26LIotlR7ftivKhc7ptj8IuLlO07C0JwSnKa+b9FZ VBISY8Wd6zpf+DUhMOdz9OSHTgou1g0JQbUerWQKAU13ub46BMVsWRnlurtZHY1x/c5U kuVyze4/Klqn6qVOIVuNdQgUThwLQUf5HLafU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:50:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, In the midst of having very little success in booking a short midwest tour, I stumbled on this article about Kim Boekbinder, who has been experimenting with "pre-selling" tickets to her tour gigs before she books the gig. (Think kickstarter campaign.) Info on that is here: http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=12929 http://www.kimboekbinder.com/shows/ That's a great idea, and another whole discussion. So I started thinking, "Well, Kim's a much more successful artist than I am, in a genre of music that does well in hip music circles these days. I'd probably get a big fat goose egg if I tried it." ...And yes, that's true. I'm by no means a successful or popular musician. But then I started wondering - how many listeners do I actually have, and how many would be likely to come to a show if they knew I was playing in town? So, I went to last.fm and crunched a few numbers. I tried to make my estimates conservative, but the results still came out mildly encouraging. Pasted below are the results I just posted on another list in another discussion. note 1: This is not really intended to be about me specifically, but an example of an artist who has a couple cds out, which are available on the popular downloading sites, but brings only about 5-15 people to a local gig. note 2: Last.fm is a site in which users track their own listening habits. However, you can look up an artist and see how much their music is getting played by the site's members. Paste: According to Last.fm, there are 223 Last.fm members who have listened to (or scrobbled) at least one track of mine. Some fuzzy math: Given from the listeners I can see on last.fm, I assume that I personally know or have met about 10% of these folks. I'm also going to guess that less than 25% of people who purchase or listen to this kind of music are members of last.fm. (It's probably more like 10% of listeners have last.fm accounts.) So, multiplying my last.fm listeners by 4 or 10 to estimate 100% of all listeners, there is somewhere between 800 and 2200 people out there who have purchased or downloaded at least one song from me. (That's a good deal more than my uneducated guess would've been.) Of these 800 to 2200 people, I probably know about 10% of them. (And that 10% would of course be concentrated in the bay area.) The tricky question is: How many people who have listened to my music like it enough that they would attend a concert of mine if I was in town and they knew about it? I'm going to be conservative again and say 10%. (I'm very likely to attend concerts of indie acts that I've listened to at least once, but I don't think I'm a typical US listener in that regard.) So, that makes somewhere between 80 to 220 people, mostly based in the USA or Europe, that would possibly attend a show of mine if they knew about it. The last time I toured, I didn't meet a single person who had heard of me before. If I could somehow get in touch with that 80 to 200 people, that would make a significant difference in my current (dismal) attempts to book a tour. So what to do? Hmmm.... ...and if my math comes up with 80 to 200 people, imagine how it calculates for you folks who have actual talent and/or charisma! -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 22:01:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D87821840F4; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3uSL/jiiHfgzqva/xkjjrVw4YVSiS+CPmAgKeWGSp6I=; b=WHYipKSt1od4WaqOJKn7YANIM9Crkbl4ckVX4BO2eK2Modwgq/H3tnVEehbbFyi+2b nZGbuTzPAki8kuEQJFfbO06cmHhl7Z1PhzxkEhoCwPmfqU8Mse1C7HnDF3R+TrtLL4qo +ktSach+wMIu8SHx9eEgvb4J1dZ9YSHjmbLEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bEnTvMJlMT6LdNaLlYSR+aTZeJmhv5eEUKM1/qoXFRJWGEcv53jAuHY4c7aNJ5r9Tg wtwZGbWWyNRCbTFFdvgJJKBmtW8PGaOi3mr5G2XynLExOpctTqU6CqOGrgSgNlsHxLzW n++YKAWtqfdVWzJ0B1t0yG9DUMomJTFmU2MTU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:01:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: I really like this artist...Hope you do 2 From: Jason Finnern To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c173698550b04a5b32ebf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:01:47 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c173698550b04a5b32ebf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm3nhzPoUh0 --0015174c173698550b04a5b32ebf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

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--0015174c173698550b04a5b32ebf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 22:07:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15B06184107; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6nukUurfz4VhC8OEB1P4SFWRYss1k06S0KXugIX/3kk=; b=oz4iI8edM1DlbCiDcDsTkhj4t4mraOy0g+ewS33UnyW5Ig0m8NbTb3BePKoE9EfhqQ 4SwqoFevZj4Lo0NCUTYRziT7HAySUYob8HYkIE2bCyDdSBHaZos1ijQj9if+J6518hkC ohvi28dXDGh2IOYI9r0S5SuCpVV9JcqV0L54c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AEq7JkvCSrjYr1AaZecNb4dHpsW7ii82G/yMqtH0SXGeeLrNCIJoIeyVUizB3X6WQH lvJmUmIx6zUtCSGZ3Q+qmI321df+Tqo+eobH9HjuqX5VuDsgpphVedqYaWFb2gqVY9u5 pkeL/I5aAiNnMXe8jj6eQ/xOj48ZDQ+6DPBFo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I really like this artist...Hope you do 2 From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Rick Astley? On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Jason Finnern wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm3nhzPoUh0 -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 22:28:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70F02183C37; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 954520.25175.bm@omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308090524; bh=uleNOGiDrX0nek0BlXISqW9FgdksacT1L5HvgV759vc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=brtd3Sq2G9J9nH3nnvDzeTfHDrmZ0+G0rlI7e3cHwzY/OmKzgPdvXB3Dzfi4SfTYAn2bkvbHbdtKT3Nf09huqXhmSYKZyPU0M1ElB+tOQs/jHkGgCE4F5/thu//hkYn2Rad8PCREllfNJm7pHN2mwMlCaZEad247OHjELEpZBlM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m1EWQHNj+Vd9M5ZfpzsNSkUD31yzp+0p2mRn8fDSLkqHAyq8Wo6Ws5nOipJ4Qi3dnYp5NC/Gs3d/5tia9t0esBYDWPxzK3wvMPRGtVAQfjyrrmRto6dIzWUrxp1zDyj2QA02xWx+7W9hOvAbIyTy12x/dh0jPpKmFE71EsQyThE=; Message-ID: <332224.68388.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c_nPd84VM1nA1Vn7iENDYVEC47KpZHwasc.tRaHECy9x96n Ml5cnSpT5blYnepEgjEq.penYiubRYVIyYOmmTdVmj2YYpLJ6BMlPzAACYdS k6xUZHl3_H3QJR7dsHXL7rifTJ4IaGArYxqF6gUJsCgcdIHj_KHG7u12I5Xt S04Y2JagK0Q5ZFzC7RQ_XX51WMfqEUfDE0i4I54nErJmmIaoBBMRgkyYTyHE qcs1xyvu.8QEmZRyf2xOjeccHNe6XCSbZYjcfY5RvwSG9fBUeqT7WvNiT114 7HEf1VvUoiPEV8FCawO9cFoMsN7s1uhFdzNVOyD2nz5qHArZB1Cx_..ts22v lskbQZxDlXRr56iO7pkb1c8GQICptrOXzVTwitkP_oFYjTMQ9HOj_ies0.1R grA26NhVOZpFIZSYF0LuemNaFb9gQiYf3q5pZErlII2DWnf0a6yavTBYSaA3 7YLUKXXU5yOgnN9hFC5mirNdmqZcrigK4HMTiG6UlK12SYsQ5gMJW2siyqDe 1GhV7LLHiogKy5cbEffk43rMYMlMoxkZZvvRNOTXvEAbY5zCj7PuLWX5cGP2 dH4Am9PYkbCoGUx1wPG9HHRyPwzjTy3FXIVvQuUQN79UAtOUBetpX8VT3eDb dVVapfspS2dgQeS1So3wEUkYK1cxtuDD8CPgyVTQpD5nj44gHIc_7Vr53DvV S2Mxqtjr3FhTcM0QC_8JB_YZVjIdiC9CBIDImliUNjGmjCW2WKzwbAsvYEE3 Hk3SRtDPE8Suut1Kb4yjWgbdoK7Ti_8qtwvKt1lsKmL2AlvmWp0ZaetpGv6V NS3tZ6P0ZQw5TpO76mSrcbxIUPd0wb8kazm8VDoK86Rv88LLlPqKsLfZuFYy Ax1ng_eP.VXZKpcQbSIM4n_56ZZ6y_uxqF.aHfNArK27fgna6qKpe.OLHQMC WP.C3Ls5hWRh83ODjS2T4NyN3M6ffR9EOlfbIy0EFCNle7MyXRvnIT6IrRNP rm5xWz3fv2sjS2_kmwBDswA0gJCvOKOpYWyi3KZPFNUsS25Z5PsfSc8msxRU H4dy7OxwGgtcN3gY- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Re: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Matt, finding your audience can be a very long and discouraging task, I feel like I am terrible at it. Being as strategically efficient as possible and taking any 'shortcuts'one can are definitaly essential (if you figure any out let us know!) But to me it seems the best way to go about it is to offer something very high quality, not meaning any qualitative value on playing etc, just being really good at whatever it is you do (whether it's a classical concert pianist or a performance artist who smears strawberry pudding all over themselves while playing a kazoo, you know what I mean) and then offering that thing consistently for a long period of time. As well as playing, I've put on a few shows & house concerts around the Monterey Bay area (promoting and playing w/ Steve Lawson, Lobelia, Bryan Beller/Kira Small, Bill Walker, Atmos Trio, Gustaf Fjelstrom) I even opened for Kim Boekbinder as well as Saul Kaye. And it seemed I had to do a quite a few before people even got the idea they were happening and worth coming to. And that was even with a few radio spots on KPIG and flyering, emailing etc. Seems people (& I'm totally guilty of this too) go: 'I missed it this time, but I'll make the next one' and so it goes. Seems good to also team up with other folks and help promote them, and to just keep doing it unflinchingly for a super long time maintaining a high quality experience %100 of the time. I always ask myself, "am I doing my audience a favor or are they doing me a favor by coming and listening?" But, I've rambled long enough! And hey, let's try to do a show together sometime, (seriously) or at least meet up and jam or hang out! Good luck with everything, it certainly is tricky to get things off the ground and even more so when you do something 'out of the box' oh that makes me think of a cool panel discussion Steve Lawson did about out of the box music, check it out here: http://www.stevelawson.net/2009/07/podcast-of-the-outside-the-box-panel-from-unconvention/ Best wishes, Steve Uccello http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/ www.steveuccello.com --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Matt Davignon wrote: > From: Matt Davignon > Subject: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures > To: "Loopers Delight" > Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 2:50 PM > Hi all, > > In the midst of having very little success in booking a > short midwest > tour, I stumbled on this article about Kim Boekbinder, who > has been > experimenting with "pre-selling" tickets to her tour gigs > before she > books the gig. (Think kickstarter campaign.) > > Info on that is here: > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=12929 > http://www.kimboekbinder.com/shows/ > > That's a great idea, and another whole discussion. > > So I started thinking, "Well, Kim's a much more successful > artist than > I am, in a genre of music that does well in hip music > circles these > days. I'd probably get a big fat goose egg if I tried it." > > ...And yes, that's true. I'm by no means a successful or > popular > musician. But then I started wondering - how many listeners > do I > actually have, and how many would be likely to come to a > show if they > knew I was playing in town? So, I went to last.fm and > crunched a few > numbers. I tried to make my estimates conservative, but the > results > still came out mildly encouraging. Pasted below are the > results I just > posted on another list in another discussion. > > note 1: This is not really intended to be about me > specifically, but > an example of an artist who has a couple cds out, which are > available > on the popular downloading sites, but brings only about > 5-15 people to > a local gig. > note 2: Last.fm is a site in which users track their own > listening > habits. However, you can look up an artist and see how much > their > music is getting played by the site's members. > > Paste: > According to Last.fm, there are 223 Last.fm members who > have listened > to (or scrobbled) at least one track of mine. Some fuzzy > math: Given > from the listeners I can see on last.fm, I assume that I > personally > know or have met about 10% of these folks. I'm also going > to guess > that less than 25% of people who purchase or listen to this > kind of > music are members of last.fm. (It's probably more like 10% > of > listeners have last.fm accounts.) So, multiplying my > last.fm listeners > by 4 or 10 to estimate 100% of all listeners, there is > somewhere between 800 > and 2200 people out there who have purchased or downloaded > at least > one song from me. (That's a good deal more than my > uneducated guess > would've been.) > > Of these 800 to 2200 people, I probably know about 10% of > them. (And > that 10% would of course be concentrated in the bay area.) > > The tricky question is: How many people who have listened > to my music > like it enough that they would attend a concert of mine if > I was in > town and they knew about it? I'm going to be conservative > again and > say 10%. (I'm very likely to attend concerts of indie acts > that I've > listened to at least once, but I don't think I'm a typical > US listener > in that regard.) > > So, that makes somewhere between 80 to 220 people, mostly > based in the > USA or Europe, that would possibly attend a show of mine if > they knew > about it. The last time I toured, I didn't meet a single > person who > had heard of me before. If I could somehow get in touch > with that 80 > to 200 people, that would make a significant difference in > my current > (dismal) attempts to book a tour. > > So what to do? Hmmm.... > > ...and if my math comes up with 80 to 200 people, imagine > how it > calculates for you folks who have actual talent and/or > charisma! > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 22:36:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E4C3184148; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:36:03 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <241391.92153.qm@web112119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110614223603.4740@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <241391.92153.qm@web112119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18DzCwLjiAD1EBZNQyANYJHgGa6uRSu7E4YMI0n1E /QUBy1VKvNjFKGOAxlWBLV4d3IlQBN1u6TnA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: Z9DOdew0YW0tdM1ommdpXsx8amthc5tx Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Interesting thread... Generally, imo this is simply a music variation of "life is unfair". That being said, I used to love U2 in those "Joshua Tree" days. Now, first I'm not really touched by their music and second I see them jumping on any marketing wagon (Apple... Blackberry...) and don't find it musically credible. Still again, I've never been there, but I think they put up a thrilling live show. And music is, after all, a show business... Finally, I prefer to spend money on GOOD music. Most of them are unknown bands selling on CDbaby or BandCamp, some of them major acts that I buy on Amazon... While I like the idea of supporting musicians I believe in, my first intention is to buy music that I like... Ke$ha or Kevin Coyne... Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 22:51:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51D8F18414E; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 379226.67123.bm@omp1004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308091867; bh=5fzDbErgiGmZOY0bHfHx+bpdeDbewM8wG1/qkhrrZWU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ax7woKUQWXsYTkrZ2lMzYRQliJDVw0Z7AeWUZpU91itd1IRvWPzdMPUdYIdnQNWhtGiXsNXhsDDxZ0ynfZnht8K4RUlnnd7OqslsPVZ6mN8mT1+uTGzZXQz/qz0lShFznv//pjDM7yA3C6cmYB3XdTUpnOJ+Fkbke0abjAfxvnk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DF2EG52qSMOXw+Me5ZszWnDFE1Ml+X2VxKIOHvxdUveUbhNL6B2D53ECoac3qx5xPef7RBRlddHgDboIUFjlxszLKzGlts1wjOovE3XL+2LYwJUbLm1pl9Aoo4EYrJQwPxkAdumwysPFKzy7cwCSHl63nEHXvRQCJdilB5JOy6M=; Message-ID: <644452.89224.qm@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: INx6QNIVM1k_iKlLm6YtFuhNQUBYA3NVvsmLKPhBuOJLrrl 40B_Q78xsB3QKycNv5aBQYaSuG5jRXYoGcM3OqKDRry8oL5ScjjuVbWqpQeM _7EBAXbCDyO4NnT4hLBvxcoQpDivGq.8irFm1UDl2OXPVnAvTXdVz.IQTplE 7ggB019KUVRM53Pk0fxypUL5EffL7ZvcMI_PdafsPvSkx.ftd86TAhn95V6c ktJr90iObhOLFzqtHWDbZH9ZF6GQl4Yk_sdhfmWbkKq_l6IvJGQDCXjfuxLW VxOV.cPazNseu23pruR._J.zHUCPrN3GYY__MxOWTsSwexWSXBzxi1CwSpEd A5a85In7yompdD8H4ro1uLeBsjXb8wmMGuWB1Yo6bwqsi6jjcAIlbHEK0n.a 2_PlmJKyUwDYzzZkykglJfIDFCapZfU7V0FiW8fOF3Uin1aY07waaVKEIWET TnSpszE0JEAvhERCpWPHoyf3no1QejM45H.ss4tOqYIWa17c5HFDu_J7839w lBCoUKVFHBz0DnW.Ej91BZgv9uaz_3a12OnZAmInTZhWpI20uPiHrIzQ4TDs I2ty_Vp90gcgMPRIwPIZBeDeggO6hC.ykKJH9x9iaChjXBiu6KrgBGHYSiA. Og6oFX.vJfAjkDMKMUAQYXkboE5khEKLcRpsiZjWaRhoqeIeaDWpCnGiyCtQ colGesHkTFiRetfO3O7NQlbaD5xHx X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:51:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Matt, finding your audience can be a very long and discouraging task, I feel like I am terrible at it. Being as strategically efficient as possible and taking any 'shortcuts'one can are definitaly essential (if you figure any out let us know!) But to me it seems the best way to go about it is to offer something very high quality, not meaning any qualitative value on playing etc, just being really good at whatever it is you do (whether it's a classical concert pianist or a performance artist who smears strawberry pudding all over themselves while playing a kazoo, you know what I mean) and then offering that thing consistently for a long period of time. As well as playing, I've put on a few shows & house concerts around the Monterey Bay area (promoting and playing w/ Steve Lawson, Lobelia, Bryan Beller/Kira Small, Bill Walker, Atmos Trio, Gustaf Fjelstrom) I even opened for Kim Boekbinder as well as Saul Kaye. And it seemed I had to do a quite a few before people even got the idea they were happening and worth coming to. And that was even with a few radio spots on KPIG and flyering, emailing etc. Seems people (& I'm totally guilty of this too) go: 'I missed it this time, but I'll make the next one' and so it goes. Seems good to also team up with other folks and help promote them, and to just keep doing it unflinchingly for a super long time maintaining a high quality experience %100 of the time. I always ask myself, "am I doing my audience a favor or are they doing me a favor by coming and listening?" But, I've rambled long enough! And hey, let's try to do a show together sometime, (seriously) or at least meet up and jam or hang out! Good luck with everything, it certainly is tricky to get things off the ground and even more so when you do something 'out of the box' oh that makes me think of a cool panel discussion Steve Lawson did about out of the box music, check it out here: http://www.stevelawson.net/2009/07/podcast-of-the-outside-the-box-panel-from-unconvention/ Best wishes, Steve Uccello http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/ www.steveuccello.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 22:55:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21C03184148; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HoClM1tU8UpXHcv/MV7rFH9912LA8nLTfg2vAluxz8c=; b=Wy9xBTR+r8+T9JnaqoZoiXQf8TBPrjuK+11x2RCrsD1r9LlWB8kGtZ5qlGoif1NnTO Z5STXlxocQcwD8Hq/DxvnOdPxVljT52NHWfimJoOvHzGNsXeKMBYA9jkve6CCXsPeLJH z9nZKnoRP44mBEoSHel5H7EQNhl4CLmy6kEkc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=l+niWr6tqQVZbpIVly7g56zl2bdnQfIC+sn1jCkeP5aCsfAciTCuz1l5cuNYypJPQW TXudTOM9qfWkxCKUs1maLTmCrP4dRS0XsxGmIxe2TG4cmpJuE6/QXYfp20oZX1otRmPS CjJRdLIEUww04gF7psv4ccBU0bH6rm+IpwEpM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <474336.45659.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <474336.45659.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:55:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307c9aa4bf8f7f04a5b3ef39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:55:48 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307c9aa4bf8f7f04a5b3ef39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Who's to say what's 'proper' music and what's not? Or who is a real musician and who isn't? I don't like those folks you mentioned but lot's of people do. So it goes. Don't know why it bothers people so much that artifice exists and is so often rewarded in the musical arena. It has always been thus in the field of human affairs. Or so it seems to me. Kevin On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber? > > --- On *Tue, 6/14/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando * wrote: > > > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando > Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 12:06 PM > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm > > wrote: > > Because Todd used the "J" word- > > > > "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brunch" > > > Lionel Hampton > > > > . As to U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of > Relativity once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 30 > plus years ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at >playing > their instruments or composing music since then, perhaps especially "show > tunes". But I don't have to buy their stuff or listen to them against my > will, so I don't care, it's just sad that it qualifies >as industry standard > at this point in history. Must be time to practice...rant off. > > I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting and > talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a > decade or so now. I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and > actually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think. > They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm willing to > bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with > the Edge if they ever had the chance. > > I just have a hard time with people slagging off popular musicians for > what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think its > misplaced. > > Kevin > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --20cf307c9aa4bf8f7f04a5b3ef39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who's to say what's 'proper' music and what's not?=A0 O= r who is a real musician and who isn't?

I don't like those f= olks you mentioned but lot's of people do.=A0

So it goes.=A0 Do= n't know why it bothers people so much that artifice exists and is so o= ften rewarded in the musical arena.=A0 It has always been thus in the field= of human affairs.

Or so it seems to me.

Kevin

On= Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>= wrote:
Lady Gaga= , Katy Perry, Justin Bieber?

--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> = wrote:

From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
Subject: = Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, = 12:06 PM


On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bryan Helm <bryanhelm@openrange.net> wrote:
> Because Todd used the &q= uot;J" word-
>
> "Americans love jazz , as long as it comes free with brun= ch"
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lionel Hampton
>
> . As to= U2 (or "the ute" as I heard the late John Cunningham of Relativi= ty once refer to them) they could barely play their instruments 30 plus yea= rs ago and they haven't really gotten any more adept at >playing the= ir instruments or composing music since then, perhaps especially "show tunes". But I don't have to buy their stuff or listen to them aga= inst my will, so I don't care, it's just sad that it qualifies >= as industry standard at this point in history. Must be time to practice...r= ant off.

I dunno, the esteemed Mr. Eno seems to think they're interesting an= d
talented enough to warrant his having worked with them for at least a<= br>decade or so now.=A0 I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and
act= ually a slight to the intended point of this thread I think.
They're very inventive for a popular band I think and I'm willing t= o
bet anyone on this list would have a very good time talking gear with<= br>the Edge if they ever had the chance.

I just have a hard time wit= h people slagging off popular musicians for
what basically seems to be the fact that they're popular; I think itsmisplaced.

Kevin


--
Till now you seriously consider= ed yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Vi= deo ht= tp://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

<= /div>


--
Till now you seriously considered you= rself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance wh= ich is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/video= s
--20cf307c9aa4bf8f7f04a5b3ef39-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 23:20:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C2AB184107; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GDVeLBR9RVcGpyWHQfvP8EbpPovCp5Rv9OpobciSR6M=; b=kbQP9j+N5s7OaxEKg+6vt3IMjTLSNIv7nhPax9GaBkxvqgWlzQSeVk70RGrEojMsI0 ldZlvjIhMsO5ZeYfCwz88GOr86VWM/0NoGdPWfgKcdRYnWyj9ZulllMM31EF9n1sjV6K xJsHFMsRY8fX35KEN1isCxKvLdwqnkWrdvKfg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rA5FGQzIbF7aOyEPfTpQJRzm0XPWzvRaptt7UQ/OPV/Yvwbc66R76fe95swqk8u9eN LeC5EgnvwRlxBcaiN2+9WESd+M/l8fhVLv+seH8NHzSI0WqNIto2H45rg0JM7K2QtLe0 XLzKCpe6aK6sFYFrvJ8f3gnHr4yabD430qqQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <332224.68388.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <332224.68388.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:20:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Yes, the live show aspect as you say below is important. The connection that I'm trying to make is mostly to people who download one's CDs and like them - figuring out how to make it easy to get them on an announcement list. (And then to sort the announcement list by localities, so that people on the other side of the country are not bored by the announcements of local shows.) Arguably, you can't force people on your mailing list. You mostly want to make it easy to find and sign up for. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt Steve Uccello was all: > Matt, finding your audience can be a very long and discouraging task, I f= eel like I am terrible at it. =A0Being as strategically efficient as possib= le and taking any 'shortcuts'one can are definitaly essential (if you figur= e any out let us know!) =A0But to me it seems the best way to go about it i= s to offer something very high quality, not meaning any qualitative value o= n playing etc, just being really good at whatever it is you do (whether it'= s a classical concert pianist or a performance artist who smears strawberry= pudding all over themselves while playing a kazoo, you know what I mean) a= nd then offering that thing consistently for a long period of time. =A0As w= ell as playing, I've put on a few shows & house concerts around the Montere= y Bay area (promoting and playing w/ Steve Lawson, Lobelia, Bryan Beller/Ki= ra Small, Bill Walker, Atmos Trio, Gustaf Fjelstrom) =A0I even opened for K= im Boekbinder as well as Saul Kaye. =A0And it seemed I had to do a quite a = few > =A0before people even got the idea they were happening and worth coming t= o. And that was even with a few radio spots on KPIG and flyering, emailing = etc. =A0Seems people (& I'm totally guilty of this too) go: 'I missed it th= is time, but I'll make the next one' and so it goes. =A0Seems good to also = team up with other folks and help promote them, and to just keep doing it u= nflinchingly for a super long time maintaining a high quality experience %1= 00 of the time. =A0I always ask myself, "am I doing my audience a favor or = are they doing me a favor by coming and listening?" But, I've rambled long = enough! And hey, let's try to do a show together sometime, (seriously) or a= t least meet up and jam or hang out! Good luck with everything, it certainl= y is tricky to get things off the ground and even more so when you do somet= hing 'out of the box' oh that makes me think of a cool panel discussion Ste= ve Lawson did about out of the box music, check it out here: > > http://www.stevelawson.net/2009/07/podcast-of-the-outside-the-box-panel-f= rom-unconvention/ > > Best wishes, Steve Uccello > > http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/ > www.steveuccello.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 23:45:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 988E618414B; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 262221.55103.bm@omp1018.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308095121; bh=EoKSqEuYrzVXFHBYl+P9YgSJHnpXUvlNK6nP0EgXZxo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CN9qERNW3pnFbvJ3UDmDPjzp+jhPer2G+o0tY/uxbMQ36B5YxJEfSJ3pNmZd0aNehShBMCOAIYhLqO7WfSrwG2khvvzTfqGIwGsS04EV+Ys0b7L94RtKhLTPDSmMHD3yZ6KVycBkSIgRWGUd7tcHb2lkHpl6TS9wzhGeJgQLriM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NRdg4h5ApifAtyjyFkaDiUsVhDAFEJXetkRUO+rkpCzy2UazwZf4qYmvBJ1WWPW1wjNBhU9V5fEr84vlce7rmNtlpi0mq9CTvpchh5ZKeMvUbd/6+BjQ2tB4UqEQziQYZsqfZhbmdyOksXev/nfdaPG5291n9oIJLwGyonTmmUE=; Message-ID: <477735.12363.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JIfVl40VM1m5WWa79.Khq.f6Bq9FzuMDXxUkSQQK88SQY1Y UTlWXFviu.zz.3.Ft1_w7GVj1A3VVe_WSB74jGtBoFAcOyUX3GusP_O.85L8 OvKdrZB6R998w_tSi2UhI4byd8382V4pJdpYpZcY0fMSrMaiiYmZ79l4jADh biLavYslyE9nfzUPkSxGjVkWUBTYsUCwbhCqGSx6ObO.WgG3ecVma.2CP_CB 7m3raibr4OF5A13KexOn.XFt8pdz0wRvxjPF7pcSqRTu41oG4yGaBFySfQzu v8cgQb3IC7BcM36hM8pHSARHqPOucqts.KI_kD_dUOCv45N8MjeyGPz3nI8F SHhvovi99QtSmKw_9DnpPJpjnJWqEemaxSpIfKjjfYyirpexsEKbFoJmOR.Z gnrycIEzzU5.gws0T0UsGBBM0aw8xk4dQ..WLBKo46VG8pBHMtEwuNL09Fg7 VJTTQQxhYdJUWDDGH9ZQVrLghPN7P4A_DTf24C0v2osR0zbLJVhYh2lK__hp yGZA5_xqtTb2qFH.c7s45OoqtTexZYf2hXnWfIaDFfahbzyIe6PLBkU60oYK DbmFS8eWnxbOyhv7YEYGlQvrWEgrMYwcycQja5sl_7Gx223yY.86gb8Q_CwD R2rHQ8lLhtHoZzAdRC2Igbxc5QBmPi8ody6_AZopvIj4J2ALJ9_unWRERX76 Y.vp4KJT9MDcENFvH1.FmWvoINfor6MNrvtpRsfCq0tXVOUi9vj0YNbri3Sc Y3gUWIEXdZCQynZEbhL9lMpNq.nTeLOnTVFTGA1LeRiWQLrbJiw.zyDZpOeH a1wiA0D4AMQ5u.LO5_SOhfVPKxK.LcmTO3I_zxrNm6tZiMSAAWQax0yoTa27 ARwBO_1pVNtN.ODpPeExrbHpM5IjV.Cho5AfjxDEB X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:45:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Re: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0jIZz.A.etF.TK_9NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Matt, I know Bandcamp has a feature that takes folk's emails when they down= load your music, also just to build an email list 'fan reach pro' seems to = be used a lot. But I guess that doesn't help if you're mainly selling throu= gh itunes or whatever other bigger online store. Figuring out all the nuts= and bolts to find pathways to connect emails of music buyers and their loc= ations to your email list is definitely something I know nothing about :) I= can bow the bass tho ;) But seriously, good luck to you, I'm sure someone = on here has already figured it out and will help, Steve Uccello=0A=0A--- On= Tue, 6/14/11, Matt Davignon wrote:=0A=0A> From: M= att Davignon =0A> Subject: Re: Connecting to fanbas= e / Touring / some encouraging figures=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com=0A> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 4:20 PM=0A> Yes, the live show as= pect as you say=0A> below is important.=0A> =0A> The connection that I'm tr= ying to make is mostly to people=0A> who=0A> download one's CDs and like th= em - figuring out how to make=0A> it easy to=0A> get them on an announcemen= t list. (And then to sort the=0A> announcement=0A> list by localities, so t= hat people on the other side of the=0A> country=0A> are not bored by the an= nouncements of local shows.)=0A> =0A> Arguably, you can't force people on y= our mailing list. You=0A> mostly want=0A> to make it easy to find and sign = up for.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Matt Davignon=0A> mattdavignon@gmail.com=0A> www.r= ibosomemusic.com=0A> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com=0A> Rigs! h= ttp://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt=0A> =0A> Steve Uccello =0A> was all:=0A> > Matt, finding your audience can be a very = long and=0A> discouraging task, I feel like I am terrible at it. =A0Being= =0A> as strategically efficient as possible and taking any=0A> 'shortcuts'o= ne can are definitaly essential (if you figure=0A> any out let us know!) = =A0But to me it seems the best way to=0A> go about it is to offer something= very high quality, not=0A> meaning any qualitative value on playing etc, j= ust being=0A> really good at whatever it is you do (whether it's a=0A> clas= sical concert pianist or a performance artist who smears=0A> strawberry pud= ding all over themselves while playing a=0A> kazoo, you know what I mean) a= nd then offering that thing=0A> consistently for a long period of time. =A0= As well as=0A> playing, I've put on a few shows & house concerts around=0A>= the Monterey Bay area (promoting and playing w/ Steve=0A> Lawson, Lobelia,= Bryan Beller/Kira Small, Bill Walker, Atmos=0A> Trio, Gustaf Fjelstrom) = =A0I even opened for Kim Boekbinder=0A> as well as Saul Kaye. =A0And it see= med I had to do a quite a=0A> few=0A> > =A0before people even got the idea = they were happening=0A> and worth coming to. And that was even with a few r= adio=0A> spots on KPIG and flyering, emailing etc. =A0Seems people=0A> (& I= 'm totally guilty of this too) go: 'I missed it this=0A> time, but I'll mak= e the next one' and so it goes. =A0Seems=0A> good to also team up with othe= r folks and help promote them,=0A> and to just keep doing it unflinchingly = for a super long=0A> time maintaining a high quality experience %100 of the= time.=0A> =A0I always ask myself, "am I doing my audience a favor or=0A> a= re they doing me a favor by coming and listening?" But,=0A> I've rambled lo= ng enough! And hey, let's try to do a show=0A> together sometime, (seriousl= y) or at least meet up and jam=0A> or hang out! Good luck with everything, = it certainly is=0A> tricky to get things off the ground and even more so wh= en=0A> you do something 'out of the box' oh that makes me think of=0A> a co= ol panel discussion Steve Lawson did about out of the=0A> box music, check = it out here:=0A> >=0A> > http://www.stevelawson.net/2009/07/podcast-of-the-= outside-the-box-panel-from-unconvention/=0A> >=0A> > Best wishes, Steve Ucc= ello=0A> >=0A> > http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/=0A> > www.steveuc= cello.com=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 00:45:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27B05184145; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <474336.45659.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thread-topic: Something I just wanted to share with everyone thread-index: Acwq9X1FIYbEaiXgQ1aJi9erBeTIkA== Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:45:07 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2011 00:45:33.0194 (UTC) FILETIME=[8879CEA0:01CC2AF5] Resent-Message-ID: <38bXMC.A.7oG.uCA-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:45:34 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:55 PM, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" wr= ote: > but lot's of people do. =20 That's show biz fellers. Could be music, circus, snake farm, alligator wrest= ling or whatever, it is just a business, and in performance art, if you dont= have a good business machine behind you, then the chances of making a livin= g from your art is impossible.=20 Andy o >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 00:49:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16D85184146; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures References: <332224.68388.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: richard sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:50:13 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:49:21 +0000 (UTC) For what you're saying, Matt, Topspin is pretty cool. I think it's www.tops= pin.com... but could be wrong. =20 Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Yes, the live show aspect as you say below is important. >=20 > The connection that I'm trying to make is mostly to people who > download one's CDs and like them - figuring out how to make it easy to > get them on an announcement list. (And then to sort the announcement > list by localities, so that people on the other side of the country > are not bored by the announcements of local shows.) >=20 > Arguably, you can't force people on your mailing list. You mostly want > to make it easy to find and sign up for. >=20 > --=20 > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >=20 > Steve Uccello was all: >> Matt, finding your audience can be a very long and discouraging task, I f= eel like I am terrible at it. Being as strategically efficient as possible a= nd taking any 'shortcuts'one can are definitaly essential (if you figure any= out let us know!) But to me it seems the best way to go about it is to off= er something very high quality, not meaning any qualitative value on playing= etc, just being really good at whatever it is you do (whether it's a classi= cal concert pianist or a performance artist who smears strawberry pudding al= l over themselves while playing a kazoo, you know what I mean) and then offe= ring that thing consistently for a long period of time. As well as playing,= I've put on a few shows & house concerts around the Monterey Bay area (prom= oting and playing w/ Steve Lawson, Lobelia, Bryan Beller/Kira Small, Bill Wa= lker, Atmos Trio, Gustaf Fjelstrom) I even opened for Kim Boekbinder as wel= l as Saul Kaye. And it seemed I had to do a quite a few >> before people even got the idea they were happening and worth coming to.= And that was even with a few radio spots on KPIG and flyering, emailing etc= . Seems people (& I'm totally guilty of this too) go: 'I missed it this tim= e, but I'll make the next one' and so it goes. Seems good to also team up w= ith other folks and help promote them, and to just keep doing it unflinching= ly for a super long time maintaining a high quality experience %100 of the t= ime. I always ask myself, "am I doing my audience a favor or are they doing= me a favor by coming and listening?" But, I've rambled long enough! And hey= , let's try to do a show together sometime, (seriously) or at least meet up a= nd jam or hang out! Good luck with everything, it certainly is tricky to get= things off the ground and even more so when you do something 'out of the bo= x' oh that makes me think of a cool panel discussion Steve Lawson did about o= ut of the box music, check it out here: >>=20 >> http://www.stevelawson.net/2009/07/podcast-of-the-outside-the-box-panel-f= rom-unconvention/ >>=20 >> Best wishes, Steve Uccello >>=20 >> http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/ >> www.steveuccello.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 02:30:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B79E4184145; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jOg6D1lB/tNIdnPJdzjTpir/2ZnOkyzn2vFI62v2x2Y=; b=PFqNLqzj5m339ArdgSEEKElrI8y8xccW2Rg72xXtB80jIMgtV4jV8RaotUImtyq+mv uMaKPuuBQloPrJNtUe24CDb/ZkyryxTucEOGwi3ABG84Mzt8ZOE24FxeIS4ZbwoKJlxM bJk9bEEqTsgxHo+SkPrMtr9dwU1QpD1DcPtyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qMiplpu5DCfuAFOM8vRjH6QZj9FLEXzjs95iJEItf6wEO1db/Q42AAmrM6BTnJ5MAn o0XYYngjZDfis46CtVv0ju1sm12r8vN2mGPvqW/QrFm1wZdO61DyCp7TY/mmFtkW+HC5 rNSvfuzsQ6Dcimg6t6UNRgaARQYu/84+gvjdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:30:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Somewhat OT: Podcast (Ned Evett and Adrian Belew Interview) From: Jeffery Duke To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325555866737f0304a5b6eec2 Resent-Message-ID: <1F-sTB.A.MN.0kB-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:30:12 +0000 (UTC) --000325555866737f0304a5b6eec2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Loopers- I'll be self promotional here and let everyone know that I've recently published the second podcast release for NiceGrooves.com. You can find it here: http://www.nicegrooves.com/2011/06/14/nice-grooves-podcast-episode-2/ In it we interview fretless guitarist Ned Evett who is recently worked with Adrian Belew at the producer's helm on Ned's forthcoming album, "Treehouse". We talk to them in detail about the new album and some of the process used! I hope you all enjoy it and let me know what you think! I'm still working out a lot of kinks in my podcasting rig, but it's getting easier each time. Like riding a bicycle... Best Regards- Jeff Duke Jr. --000325555866737f0304a5b6eec2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loopers-

I'll be self promotional here and let every= one know that I've recently published the second podcast release for Ni= ceGrooves.com.


In it we interview fretless guitarist Ned Evett who is = recently worked with Adrian Belew at the producer's helm on Ned's f= orthcoming album, "Treehouse". =A0We talk to them in detail about= the new album and some of the process used!

I hope you all enjoy it and let me know what you think!= =A0I'm still working out a lot of kinks in my podcasting rig, but it&#= 39;s getting easier each time.

Like riding a bicyc= le...

Best Regards-

Jeff Duke Jr.
--000325555866737f0304a5b6eec2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 02:30:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F1DF184159; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4bLrxG/h73mdH7v8VlGd8BAXQzR6HV5dKbzR9Mtz5N8=; b=Gmses9YvYo3DA1wXFNRYNA+ieSmUAoAUdDNXJEQN/UH4t+CKdzEwMux9knLpY5PYGn /Ot9j7BDCCfpicrK7EA/QSB5+pl5SYxuJzfeAD0gZeILjoPnPt12mqybQNqpcadlTezK UmMieD7val95Hf+WVMDTpO4yXkwPFPBEB+Xhc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KZQPJN4tGUfjlAJMGD6eC1wDCujAIOB7cdR2TvUW/3oJW5t/SPjuES5PAgbcKwPqGy /AzEmmMXRn3vI+ngJEfkWlu7Ro7RHDSQrgQlN8BgLMCH7QO8Vz2fR2bxAVILTIc/Glp4 QtYLsmCIXgbK43gYM8npW/ZxejEAlHf3wCjVU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:30:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Somewhat OT: Podcast (Ned Evett and Adrian Belew Interview) From: Jeffery Duke To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65c8dda8d4b6604a5b6ee94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:30:13 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65c8dda8d4b6604a5b6ee94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Loopers- I'll be self promotional here and let everyone know that I've recently published the second podcast release for NiceGrooves.com. You can find it here: http://www.nicegrooves.com/2011/06/14/nice-grooves-podcast-episode-2/ In it we interview fretless guitarist Ned Evett who is recently worked with Adrian Belew at the producer's helm on Ned's forthcoming album, "Treehouse". We talk to them in detail about the new album and some of the process used! I hope you all enjoy it and let me know what you think! I'm still working out a lot of kinks in my podcasting rig, but it's getting easier each time. Like riding a bicycle... Best Regards- Jeff Duke Jr. --0016e65c8dda8d4b6604a5b6ee94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loopers-

I'll be self promotional here and let every= one know that I've recently published the second podcast release for Ni= ceGrooves.com.


In it we interview fretless guitarist Ned Evett who is = recently worked with Adrian Belew at the producer's helm on Ned's f= orthcoming album, "Treehouse". =A0We talk to them in detail about= the new album and some of the process used!

I hope you all enjoy it and let me know what you think!= =A0I'm still working out a lot of kinks in my podcasting rig, but it&#= 39;s getting easier each time.

Like riding a bicyc= le...

Best Regards-

Jeff Duke Jr.
--0016e65c8dda8d4b6604a5b6ee94-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 04:32:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A7A8184139; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ONM+xhcilrCTjUNurNn545unKedl40t7RimHuv5epTY=; b=NYbEPmGAyBPAHpwJBhh3GxPicOZyaS3w6pPdHTYz39bhgegfTcXJsVV+LRzXUkESiA ec5x7DtX5yeP7HF4otGMbfE/4OMwhQpM1lIkjGanO4CVum7UbVlQ9FYuHPCABkBKN3Nb C9oZx4Ayga88jSHUTq8J0MW0/hZqyrkJcyGC8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jbrhI7T+EbCQdjgNCQPZgA6P5UF6jIiN3EWfof7EwINgzBTx8ftdXeUeW8vCMO4Hjp 9lhGPh4VdU1K3g5r2fOkOotrlbCvhJqIC0N04yTvhjOjhoxswKp0Ed6DlBzzArqzWmWh HG3NheoU+1+06uqXfwyW8vr4d8AJpTBR5K6h8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:32:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: couple of new pieces From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51d25f0a8265c04a5b8a410 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:32:43 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51d25f0a8265c04a5b8a410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in my third incarnation of using Jeff's Mobius software with this time being the most involved and most growth with it. I've been using it mostly for Internet performances [NinJam] and recordings often with my violin. Here are a couple of pieces recently done for ImprovFriday . http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Cascading_Lights_Above_The_Noise_= Floor_IF_June_11_2011.mp3 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Spiral_June_11_2011.mp3 Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec51d25f0a8265c04a5b8a410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in my third incarnation of using Jeff's Mobius software with th= is time being the most involved and most growth with it. =A0I've been u= sing it mostly for Internet performances [NinJam] and recordings often with= my violin. =A0Here are a couple of pieces recently done for ImprovFriday.



--bcaec51d25f0a8265c04a5b8a410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 06:33:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7940184136; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+rfNVmapiJV+V16VXW7Ix9l8+wZbJWN3G+qmpizNRVo=; b=Dytx9CFakUXmQYCra9+Y7g4uSnTr1SpCfeuFp6Z5ezwYh3naZZnskQFPrxOTiwXMMF 2Z98M5eOEEoOMWAH5ZwD3QAOPy1l8StPf3SX7Eydfi3qohbvp25XfBB8EGd088iSVlUX ZQHVAFJmtQR/E5lSWx0GE+r6RED+XUCLW7nJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ixpyza3OkvGmXvvh5oIgHTDDuZfhCNTg3Huj9x6EdhMhJtyUCYYFmQJ9An8R/mTUen bGjQyY+UMjlbJDBg7l5+eEp+QJJ4EZYta/xZv9ImP55lTnv81XaTFFT6UoQyfGYzaHKX t/f3EBethJ3PUaTP8Q9m8WIRZStjcbikXwKB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 01:33:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Syncing two EDPS From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530ebc719b8804a5ba534c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:33:10 +0000 (UTC) --002354530ebc719b8804a5ba534c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's my current setup: Electribe midi out -> Moog MP201 Midi in -> CV Gate on/off to EDP1 and EDP2 Beat Sync. EDP one ranges anywhere from .50 to .51 when trying to catch the beat, which is fine when it's just one EDP. But when two start going together, I'll have one at .51 and the other at .50, which makes EDP2 slightly off sync. Is there a better way to sync the two? --002354530ebc719b8804a5ba534c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's my current setup:

Electribe midi out -> Mo= og MP201 Midi in -> CV Gate on/off to EDP1 and EDP2 Beat Sync.

EDP one ranges anywhere from .50 to .51 when trying to catc= h the beat, which is fine when it's just one EDP. But when two start go= ing together, I'll have one at .51 and the other at .50, which makes ED= P2 slightly off sync.

Is there a better way to sync the two?
--002354530ebc719b8804a5ba534c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 13:41:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 908D0184131; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 444220.42124.bm@omp1059.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308145260; bh=MSKpd9s7/jh7dNsARZEQkQ8fsEa+n7M0Rc5Bbp6zJP4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GshkHkXpzZogZvMtSV7GYuD30VM0Aluw5vWPIQC7aD0Yyqu/uUFi7LyL/aFcC8wb07ggks8rqVaUFLAUbrBF5VcAIXaP2Wt9l0CKLhVgrpb8fI0NcZirn9oFvrAOAWkGajqq8C56QFaGALjC0DmFaAdn9qh8b1UwJPjVP6pVnCw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Tq1Q1vJZT81klFVJpOl5yLnF/ShKBxeqKhT0O7GZwyp4qH7hQS08TjMMw2HRSNhyUfccJCBkoLts+v2WJujM64pecf88awjLCGADB1lCa+N8qPstDUer5nCN9k/0hA4IZhrBO4iaOA1YnhR5gY1GhtQk2rCFviUDgRlrKU6r5RI=; Message-ID: <32842.34774.qm@web113207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: x_ylbzAVM1n2ddqwadDbF1i.Cfn21NjPMlbcKc9fi49lmPy 3vRe5OHMTDdFsCkX.s.MJCjErWS5cGLyVyq94F80Yvv.bfs2cMaNYdhe.no8 uT_ODDKxrLX9LVtUwCXDqMhENJImHJuXttzcNmmQSe4_eAV6Rxes0AY0KltO U5iLiajiyOkKrRhF7fKf1wVEJbrYtrEAiAVcuf7ZFkF3QoL.V.rPWxsNIyuJ sMC.erXDXM19RPNrxhDtu.kxgW6sSqWAWhmIC9Smsjrq6r1qD.hN17oq4aWd VrXnMPA.pov3sle55m7nZW_N.FDozolJ90KNtneuKrWLbiV3o25f9UWbBAiS xEhgUmn1Kw7zThtwum5IxrIuOZ.tKH.96Ze7.pXXvtmEz_i5r3Ef251fAKor GPZ9jfpxBTJubAQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Darren Michaels Subject: Steve Lawson Atlanta-area Clinic and House Concert To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-824071001-1308145259=:34774" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:41:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-824071001-1308145259=:34774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 1pm on Saturday, June 18, 2011, UK solo bassist Steve Lawson will give a clinic at Atlanta Bass Gallery (4451 Atlanta Rd, Smyrna, GA 30080). A keen fretless player and a master looper, Lawson is known internationally for his unique approach and ability to abstract the electric bass guitar, yielding lush soundscapes packed with a surprising array of sounds one might not expect from the instrument. The clinic is free. Lawson is also performing with Lobelia and fellow solo bassist, Darren Michaels, at a house concert on Friday, June 17. Email darren@darrenmichaelsbass.com for more info or to reserve a seat. --0-824071001-1308145259=:34774 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

At 1pm on Saturday, June 18, 2011, UK solo bassist Steve Lawson will give a clinic at Atlanta Bass Gallery (4451 Atlanta Rd, Smyrna, GA 30080).


A keen fretless player and a master looper, Lawson is known internationally for his unique approach and ability to abstract the electric bass guitar, yielding lush soundscapes packed with a surprising array of sounds one might not expect from the instrument. The clinic is free.


Lawson is also performing with Lobelia and fellow solo bassist, Darren Michaels, at a house concert on Friday, June 17. Email darren@darrenmichaelsbass.com for more info or to reserve a seat.

--0-824071001-1308145259=:34774-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 13:50:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1879C184131; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF8B88B.90405@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:50:03 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:10 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > ...and if my math comes up with 80 to 200 people, imagine how it > calculates for you folks who have actual talent and/or charisma! In Tao Chemical, I figured out that if 100 people came to see us in each city we played in (mostly ever big city in Northern California on a consistent basis) that we could break even. We figured that we could make a living doing it if 200 people did. Now, that was a long time ago and we depended on either being able to drive home to sleep or staying on someone's floor......which is a big caveat. I think it's vastly harder to do now and also, we had a lot of press and radio 'buzz' about our project which was theatrical new wave that helped out considerably. **************************** One last thing I wanted to mention on this thread which really hasn't been mentioned. My experience is that good fans are the key to getting more good fans. I have found that if you ask people to help you out (including really busting a hump to get you gigs, put you up for free or get out the word) that they frequently are VERY enthusiastic about helping out. So many musicians feel that it is presumptuous or 'entitled' to just brazenly ask people for help but I've found that if you don't, you just can't succeed. Most musical scenes are what I would call 'small villages'. Not unlike a small village, everyone knows everyone in certain scenes. As an example, I know everyone , practically, in the Indie Pop, the Goth/Industrial, the Noise, the World Music, the Experimental/Avant Gard and the Jazz scenes in Santa Cruz. if someone I know contacts me in any of those scenes, I can generally help them put the word out and , usually, try and get them a gig. I have learned, because I"m good at getting people gigs, to ALWAYS broker a deal that says, "if I can get you a gig, I expect to have you get me a gig where you live, if I tour your way." To me, this is only fair. It may sound a tad Machiavellian (sp?) but I find that otherwise, I start resenting helping artists to get gigs if there isn't at least a tentative willingness on their parts to reciprocate. All of this takes time and that time should always be respected, imho! Rick Walker One good thing about this community is that you can trade putting people up and booking gigs for them in exchange for putting you up and having them book gigs for you when you tour. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 14:22:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22F9F184131; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 624123579/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoBAKu/+E1YbR4W/2dsb2JhbAAMRoRJk0OYL61pkRWBK4NxgQoElhuLJA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,370,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="624123579" Message-ID: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:22:13 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:22:27 +0000 (UTC) >>> I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and >>> actually a slight to the intended point of this thread The point I wanted to highlight was that unknown musicians can be appreciated without having to make considerations for any perceived disadvantage that they work under. U2 are just the archetypal "stadium band", it's plain that what they do is fully adequate to the requirements of that niche in the universe within which they find themselves. Also, I've witnessed musicians play to a handful of people who just want a purely musical experience, and they've fulfilled their role just as well. andy www.andybutler.com is where my own stuff is kept From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 14:23:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F0F7183920; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=VAMm1qzQAAAA:8 a=z4Do1v0y3agImQyJvAcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <8FE56B24-743A-431D-82C4-3C1C2ACB735D@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: couple of new pieces Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:23:27 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Enjoyed those Jim. Nice to hear you do more violin. On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Cascading_Lights_Above_The_Noise_Floor_IF_June_11_2011.mp3 > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Spiral_June_11_2011.mp3 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 14:29:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4853184132; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 630538701/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoBAIzB+E1YbR4W/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgM1yOGJgSWG4sk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,370,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="630538701" Message-ID: <4DF8C1E9.90303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:30:01 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Syncing two EDPS References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Can't you just midi sync the EDPs ? A splitter after the Electribe? params SYNC = In 8th/Cycle = length of bar OR the edp looptimes can be shown as slightly different, and they'll still be in sync, as the syncing action chops the loop slightly. I'd guess actual beat length is .505 (or so) and the edps should stick to that. andy marcus kirby wrote: > Here's my current setup: > > Electribe midi out -> Moog MP201 Midi in -> CV Gate on/off to EDP1 and > EDP2 Beat Sync. > > EDP one ranges anywhere from .50 to .51 when trying to catch the beat, > which is fine when it's just one EDP. But when two start going together, > I'll have one at .51 and the other at .50, which makes EDP2 slightly off > sync. > > Is there a better way to sync the two? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 14:31:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C10218413A; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4dNhsVikQXk6WFReN4dsb5c4nEUupApnld6vDJ6MsXE=; b=eN6noXWrLM+I+3NVLVFShAhUC+N2x03e4+Pg/fXl9K2aUE5Knt5c9hq1cZJRbDdKNo nR19WL9VrnfhahcaAPNR5gT62IVkAWbLcDupxkngCJtLoXD8cwDa88ZVZtcrmWB/j3d0 wCKVfCzwdGzbT2928hjKmwsC31v5CtvE5GBis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=VGPMUtP/989Ik2BMXSA3C68r9Hy/wRalwxButYHbroVqbFbyDO+gGGBjuotIlkdnD9 8W8k+Y54a07de/bhBmrYLImUMzpZxu1aSyPNn2pYW5D7Km/KZTUojv9t4jhiFQRp0iru V+jUh648/Sxsesqy0U+ePw/daQz1P2PMzYuBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8FE56B24-743A-431D-82C4-3C1C2ACB735D@charter.net> References: <8FE56B24-743A-431D-82C4-3C1C2ACB735D@charter.net> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:31:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: couple of new pieces To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174791b8c1988e04a5c10360 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:31:58 +0000 (UTC) --0015174791b8c1988e04a5c10360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jim, loved this evolving different sized loop thing. Phasing is a good thing, nearly always. and that's just the first one. On to the other two. Cheers, my friend. Todd On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:23 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > Enjoyed those Jim. > > Nice to hear you do more violin. > > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > > >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Cascading_Lights_Above_The_Noi= se_Floor_IF_June_11_2011.mp3 >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Spiral_June_11_2011.mp3 >> > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174791b8c1988e04a5c10360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jim, loved this evolving different sized loop thing. =A0Phasing is a go= od thing, nearly always. =A0and that's just the first one. =A0On to the= other two. =A0

Cheers, my friend. =A0

Todd



On Wed, Ju= n 15, 2011 at 10:23 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Enjoyed those Jim.

Nice to hear you do more violin.



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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015174791b8c1988e04a5c10360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 14:47:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2994318413C; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W9X1ZDEiQCQ9Vo5zUKfrjzRXDvxAXekNHOCv123HhwM=; b=JOIQMP/zqYrhko1tMAY/8Fk6xspHzY2glo8XZbg7O3FWgUiSUXMhRAVDdSW6hsPU22 VEIVKBQIew08tceB0z549NXm/d9QyxIDQf7ljoFt1XqilW/C2qw1r/AxoDLKP4MyVhC0 DpcqSNpc7/4vdK5yF9Fbg/SPtTUuQVjXOu2Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QdiEr7tl/Rsr/1fMRG8JUfhSpeDYatIZ0V/cLPy66wPJK/hBofaWbdWK0SzsdQwm3V DPJ57EL7z9zVhF7FmwNypsQprRiI87CMRrbUPOykJPrQQsq+nNMyPLv2kTsItIIjbI6l VRUadMjG3MpSwMPT0n4z7iuO1cGoqCvRosr90= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF8C1E9.90303@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DF8C1E9.90303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:47:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Syncing two EDPS From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a7ad2422ba04a5c13a52 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:47:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a7ad2422ba04a5c13a52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Would I just need a midi through box? I think my issue is that I need them to be on separate midi channels. Basically, I need one controller to control both edps, and I don.commt think my behringer or anything else does that. On Jun 15, 2011 9:29 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > Can't you just midi sync the EDPs ? > A splitter after the Electribe? > > params > SYNC = In > 8th/Cycle = length of bar > > OR > > the edp looptimes can be shown as slightly different, > and they'll still be in sync, as the syncing action > chops the loop slightly. > I'd guess actual beat length is .505 (or so) > and the edps should stick to that. > > > andy > > marcus kirby wrote: >> Here's my current setup: >> >> Electribe midi out -> Moog MP201 Midi in -> CV Gate on/off to EDP1 and >> EDP2 Beat Sync. >> >> EDP one ranges anywhere from .50 to .51 when trying to catch the beat, >> which is fine when it's just one EDP. But when two start going together, >> I'll have one at .51 and the other at .50, which makes EDP2 slightly off >> sync. >> >> Is there a better way to sync the two? > --20cf3054a7ad2422ba04a5c13a52 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Would I just need a midi through box?

I think my issue is that I need them to be on separate midi channels. Ba= sically, I need one controller to control both edps, and I don.commt think = my behringer or anything else does that.

On Jun 15, 2011 9:29 AM, "andy butler"= <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk&g= t; wrote:
> Can't you just midi sync the EDP= s ?
> A splitter after the Electribe?
>
> params
> SYNC = =3D In
> 8th/Cycle =3D length of bar
>
> OR
> > the edp looptimes can be shown as slightly different,
> and the= y'll still be in sync, as the syncing action
> chops the loop slightly.
> I'd guess actual beat length is .= 505 (or so)
> and the edps should stick to that.
>
> > andy
>
> marcus kirby wrote:
>> Here's my = current setup:
>>
>> Electribe midi out -> Moog MP201 Midi in -> CV = Gate on/off to EDP1 and
>> EDP2 Beat Sync.
>>
>&g= t; EDP one ranges anywhere from .50 to .51 when trying to catch the beat, <= br> >> which is fine when it's just one EDP. But when two start going= together,
>> I'll have one at .51 and the other at .50, whic= h makes EDP2 slightly off
>> sync.
>>
>> Is th= ere a better way to sync the two?
>
--20cf3054a7ad2422ba04a5c13a52-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 14:51:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1126D184130; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=otu3YVoQXdWZ1NfcGxOeDe9UF6MZ1ChK/UpT5WGew4E=; b=slw3KqEWaPDcr4N1A9MKciSBB0wImmiFiqxXFpDapSY7eN26pVRw/TfG2RRsb5Prej 045Ktq9bqbp0F49P751OHQEwsjlrU3cdu713Fjo+fmfGrjRrvA7c977gQ+kwJxXWVzDL if1/IFZyh6pGLLfRoQNjMyXSMUn9oj2f/48T0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jM2m5L2SZdL5fPaGwYbJlfWPQTiN2K+S8qXRWjit7O6rM+Mw0TE21L9doJ5zb/bSbA 9aB4TI3MocLna9w8uqisR5O/KctZhEPJeSCm1ZwpFjNTX2g2MdvDCOcI0i1IpT9zVH/L yQV/tQQDLTBFL752pDfDy1rWGxlWm6aGDRW7E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:51:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56af87625c104a5c149d3 Resent-Message-ID: <7VB_j.A.fkD.vbM-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:51:27 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56af87625c104a5c149d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 U2 sucks. - jim On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:22 AM, andy butler wrote: > I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and >>>> actually a slight to the intended point of this thread >>>> >>> > The point I wanted to highlight was that unknown musicians > can be appreciated without having to make considerations > for any perceived disadvantage that they work under. > > U2 are just the archetypal "stadium band", > it's plain that what they do is fully adequate > to the requirements of that niche in the universe within which they find > themselves. > > Also, I've witnessed musicians play to a handful of people > who just want a purely musical experience, and they've > fulfilled their role just as well. > > > > andy > > www.andybutler.com is where my own stuff is kept > > > > > > > > > --000e0cd56af87625c104a5c149d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable U2 sucks.

- jim

On Wed, Jun 15, 20= 11 at 10:22 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and
actually a slight to the intended point of this thread

The point I wanted to highlight was that unknown musicians
can be appreciated without having to make considerations
for any perceived disadvantage that they work under.

U2 are just the archetypal "stadium band",
it's plain that what they do is fully adequate
to the requirements of that niche in the universe within which they find th= emselves.

Also, I've witnessed musicians play to a handful of people
who just want a purely musical experience, and they've
fulfilled their role just as well.



andy

www.andybutler.com<= /a> =A0is where my own stuff is kept









--000e0cd56af87625c104a5c149d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 15:03:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACC7118412F; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkFAPfI+E0yaFkk/2dsb2JhbABSmAyORYlqvw6GJgSHGI8RizM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,370,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="130474637" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.89.36 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:07:49 -0500 References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <4rPtrB.A.R2D.9mM-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:03:25 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote: > U2 sucks. Yeah? Why's that? I guess because you say so? Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did you have the same opinion? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 15:18:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9310A183930; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wPeEBnRBgfrnQA2McKI7bWHPF0ujjGptIYkMnf0J6sM=; b=nuFJladpmCOjZQeOJE2tUTY+uqZ1AlkZYeX8FGYslhN1/g5TNyrYyUwH0pfo34Fu+Z wryuzVhqu47YASnFX9QVJ3OWwnEAYu0DKPhYUoZhfaeklduWxIxSHE4Ec6O5FIKlPpHd EOeRsK3RDD9pqSgt6/sYIi6274YZRkyTDZlF4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Von9T/hHHO31woGbi5hOh0qMRlPpgsD5cy79+F7nMEvomOM7a6SbqNmg5STqJ3lKiW 8AaKCyupDGlNiRAg98eHz4YPqskT1ISVx/lTi9kRECLf6qZQ1yRcbvH/jVyr8PHmdGQP EXDEr3rhw5L4QCkSyPAfHmfUAZbhhPG4ybciM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:18:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ecfcb5e9fc04a5c1aa72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:18:39 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ecfcb5e9fc04a5c1aa72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 depending on how you define "early 80's", i was anywhere between the ages of 1 and 6. so no, i did not listen to them during the early 80's. but i have listened to the music that they made during the early 80's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks" category. just my opinion... On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote: > > U2 sucks. >> > > Yeah? Why's that? I guess because you say so? > > Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did you have the same opinion? > > Jeff > > --000e0cd6ecfcb5e9fc04a5c1aa72 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable depending on how you define "early 80's", i was anywhere betw= een the ages of 1 and 6.=A0 so no, i did not listen to them during the earl= y 80's.=A0 but i have listened to the music that they made during the e= arly 80's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the &= quot;sucks" category.=A0

just my opinion...

On Wed, Jun 15, 20= 11 at 11:07 AM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:

On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote:

U2 sucks.

Yeah? Why's that? I guess because you say so?

Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did you have the same opinion= ?

Jeff


--000e0cd6ecfcb5e9fc04a5c1aa72-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 15:23:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E521F18392C; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <8FE56B24-743A-431D-82C4-3C1C2ACB735D@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <8FE56B24-743A-431D-82C4-3C1C2ACB735D@charter.net> Subject: Re: couple of new pieces Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:23:51 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Ditto on that Jim! It's been a madhouse round here this week... I find myself curious about putting some accompaniment to your first piece... :) -----Original Message----- From: tEd ® KiLLiAn Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:23 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: couple of new pieces Enjoyed those Jim. Nice to hear you do more violin. On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Cascading_Lights_Above_The_Noise_Floor_IF_June_11_2011.mp3 > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Spiral_June_11_2011.mp3 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 15:23:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFFAD183CAF; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xuXsKyAt+2RwTv4kRycdAX30oYM4NRNF/hw/IpucCxg=; b=jlaWmljL1c2BZikiv0UUX5IDxS5xfZaYyTs1OQsIwXPEpd1G+VGQT/Ob6oKc+xrNC8 n3OQFgORPFARDFarvm9dFTQNliN6jzoe44fMfP8FNb0lDHz+t6FVrtx3Wt48l9awUV2B 94B0jNS6+NTvlinddGQaboyKO93963OaO1svs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m8Q+VyChwW+iLxOJrRq+RMSYRdRgG59Ke2WJORH3N+JIG5ja56xOUsCuvK29PbSIfS eLl8LB+3++GWC2JbXajRuVeFx5DzQRUiRdGyWNqqZQQmlvrG06g+wpnUgiD3VRCkSxE5 cZ3W2XaLHoyW2odYyFZnZ5aOxWeTGgYm8+hXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:23:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:23:54 +0000 (UTC) You know, I must be getting older because after having once shared this kind of opinionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or that didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its just a waste of energy. Anyone who is out there trying to do something in public is worth respect imo. Whether or not its any good or not. Negativity just doesn't have the kinds of return on living I need these day= s. Kevin On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:51 AM, james fowler wrote: > U2 sucks. > > - jim > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:22 AM, andy butler > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think the U2 bashing is ill considered and >>>>> actually a slight to the intended point of this thread >> --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 15:50:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9E31184158; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgPAJPT+E0yaFkk/2dsb2JhbABSmBCORYEGAQGIYrIGjRWGJgSHGI8RizM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,370,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="130639735" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.89.36 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:54:29 -0500 References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) > but i have listened to the music that they made during the early 80's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks" category. Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone could possibly have listened to or be inspired by these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajhOjFwuddQ&feature=related From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:07:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFAF4184116; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+AmIynnKzI2Llv/HhqAgZpSmKGxUlkf+FpSFVqYpxS8=; b=PsZEqCakHrUAvQDenVRlIJJM4/J5W+aCWJwna0555mVUMAWpMq5YalGTQRjmuvhs+3 jfA3pekm3kNYl0I2CZksAf/4iqMKj3Y4b+/7Sk7C7N4eHsZOirZwFP7RJz4oiZCLi3Ha 5qxM2SZUdmDkMZ8NVKjXC3HG+TzRe4v5Jj0G4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=KcvHHoUxw6Q+NwkWSImpO3l9Q6/O53VrvivSEJKxSzSZEdIb/1h5fGqJq2l9esDJvq 1C+R3RjCAi+yY6cFNClFvwhDBA1WzYDl2ILlRbauDi1NovQ6PA9e7we2MkpGVoZNtLyr npJsK35w7AjHJUKfWois78ovjsdFebHS116Lo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:06:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fe97064e15804a5c258ea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:07:13 +0000 (UTC) --0015173fe97064e15804a5c258ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good point, Jeff... thanks for the visual. Haven't seen that for ages. Really great work there. A really in tune band, so well rehearsed, and organic. Did I mention well-mixed as well? what a great recording for a live show! T. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote= : > > > but i have listened to the music that they made during the early 80's > and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks" > category. > > Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone could possibly have listened to or be > inspired by these guys: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DajhOjFwuddQ&feature=3Drelated > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015173fe97064e15804a5c258ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good point, Jeff... thanks for the visual. =A0Haven't seen that for age= s. =A0Really great work there. A really in tune band, so well rehearsed, an= d organic. Did I mention well-mixed as well? =A0what a great recording for = a live show!=A0

T.



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jeff Shirkey &l= t;jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:

> =A0but i have listened to the music that they made during the early 80= 's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "su= cks" category.

Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone could possibly have listened to or be ins= pired by these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DajhOjFwuddQ&feat= ure=3Drelated





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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015173fe97064e15804a5c258ea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:13:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2F9C18383A; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 909403.50562.bm@omp1023.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308154416; bh=Bl5Nqzh5QVRc28TdDxJ3W4Jrvq+15UvY5o+Q+lietec=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vEQ3vUSEARhPLuFlAhWknvoCoXtiY2Vto8DRtVcU7m7efW6tNO1ua/1V5iiSkSuSMpZZ6SRYWFTk00SAi2pAK9Mbq+DxsZnlWMKU+IkZ+xBeO7eoPNT3LgeXWOjWDvpCFjv0gy7mTEq/sbEFxFeb6r7Lyxr0YWOWFYGTNFZKsPE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xK8oncZE52WyGINN5lrDximJK/gnvGN8A+86LwLUEEBe9sdGcd6r1zvAxONaQN0cb54oVXJWonN2dsM/qWKSm17El/+IlmQxwtJ0l5wBUutILaN/3N9Sivf1bFIQPq1xHmFKDXPIw3cC5YuTOcj42HRoQytB4DPr/2U0OVpGjDI=; Message-ID: <653177.4963.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0guTwsAVM1k5xaB7MrK8TCfgB95egbNzQrgLO2EXYG7.qUH 6EwtEpBvu4znwCiPJXh_9cPNvtkHHtlcmjzat24n3_x2xbKryACIQ5FLn0XW 6DDXDkqIYFp5Fqq5sBTLIGfoOyObfnxDvF4MhTmhelSQkTU1_5LVsLDh3uKt aIeSadYRr1Zlv_b14_1b2kxuZPA5yIEe3elsZmv8E8FUbyyIQA2tGQfYw933 kwKkC2xfMcLvV0UEqjlun4biF3F5XLeUfXp7F.r9qN4ljww1oiNLckNXZBn8 CpZv1exyLWoQsSvrc6ecXMBL_8fyeTA3e0toXVfIu4Wx8K.P2wprjZ7aaofD _2SpdUO9pNJcvNtOgL0K8nJ.6GEfBJhL0eYtxvjQG1ESwXmuqotocht4.gU5 PVqJ1KxctNreB X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:13:36 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Lots of groups suck. U2 for one, I relly love the way the guitar player, using echo, turns a fairly simole guitar part into a lovely dense cloud of sound. When I was with my first band, (soundtech), they had a MXR flanger/doubler that they said was "the ultimate". I knew better, even with my total lack of experience. I rigged the band leader's 3 head reel-to-reel up as an echo. Then I waited fro him to do his "out in the middle of the dance floor" guitar solo. I slowly brought up the eckho on his guitar. He started looking perplexed. Pausing, looking down at his axe, looking around the room, etc. He didn't know WHAT was going on but his guitar sound was getting bigger!. The next week, we went out and bought a Roland RE-201. I spent day after day with that machine, playing guitar through it, not believing the millions of possibilities opening up to my ears. Later, when I could afford synths, it got even better. Yes, the Edge in my opinion, truly makes some amazing textures with just a guitar and an echo. 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Did you have the > same opinion? > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:13:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9D07183A01; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 684605.22557.bm@omp1022.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308154424; bh=RCCokRHTkfUsWwpLFmbUgNkesF6L56H/AhX+5kwnPso=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nAoKVm8ScljKdX/9iczK8XyV746j6MUgEKhccsn1nd12vWt7UdNgitkam12fv9uqBIckYH4sX01oT6tlIfMOWLJSA/nKMz3/dLTeHu11MMsLT+G7Tw1CC+ZlQEGW36NYrRdBsSocByuwGkifsPYwzxf3rz7+1hy691FycxIh8MA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zZfuUnw833TZl7lPsi7YpYJnHFuwDA1N6PAVtVyz+fnOSPm/FTvScpkpQe22uC+yGHm3t56Vwq8uHMZBqslkd5HeZFxHzdy6O8We6ZhEUecyvILShaX0HHUgk9tKfdrUtu4lKNRsnCNJhMVEmDEzpWNkfBnKmknmtGxnv93tts8=; Message-ID: <60585.9719.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mNHXMDEVM1nGHu3DcerhUQYtH9H9dWLJDkz_TCqkpVOotaI coCWFC.w3oPOHDMcPOLjZXzpDrec1NSeuCbi4LAat6IGULbLbpcg1pKfQAYG srjOq.ldRwWPv4sOjC5wq1KpoekdTBSHxTcKZ_b_WEhtp3xIKbsnY6qAegPB 8vAOzlk7QKRuoyhh4AzobQ3UzLthoObvUgoeesLlcpoEran_jwctd2m.Luqc 3ABfHfynjlXbPC5Q3dHRV8N87QYpBEd4UWL_mEU0EukVQG46qw5Zm8JXqKMq Nj0naMXVsAtrBvh_Iv8MGnMcNPiBVGtGlihbuhleJCvINKVZIpXyllXatygT nlYjS2LRKt2rUMGY4HL6JGVCRtyhAvZ03QknodHJ6mph9RpSZMp2sC1VFjE1 d_EATp.DZcP8jjL7PJSIMMpr4nHK5J1XiYQuSEq9tWpNNylISIIm_ZpP6WIV VY.oWfilAaL.ze5.6hTgaWG4TXhyYvkMxpoHPm_olvXOa.CL0M6CAiAu1MT_ z89ZZlcDAHU.rzCySdqwgFGBHS2eyjuOiIK.KMUv74hCkF3tLz24LGTu8aaZ LeXHIgX19Il35LydyThnyKAPA.wXeDPaTiP06dDJ90Htpv2_LYCS_xB6LXv7 hxZeGzXibxehSXVimEBLe5HP57f_aypj75iYBjYQ.mZmhd.R3RSGw.QHjI1F PrkgPM0d4AHfsRLdFHROCaojRIxt8Pvv9015tEFKZB36k8ow0PeRW03VWmFZ 5cEQzP76JvW2TdU6lMIhOSFu9bRCCom19z.ZQXyjatCO1eJ2Yy3J9YWZqDKm yUNgIwxNRr3t34TcTYRAUwDDy6WNnxp3qvuxPJi5jUXlN5lG.6RQTMGSP24g GoKk0bq1bRao71e577o7o8LLze6ZzqD0Dsu.XSOCuAbpeS8pPhoEMZk7HiuQ PJu38l9EtP614xiYb7L7WxFFhQPOa3CGRH2oKIaUT8w7nP_qAdRifA3WA1hE 1HNUlmIwi5PM38aSiQ5BMZGuSErYL.vpto3liIoUfhNgEexdVDXLexlZ3daV XGd9MxDJYM20nqyynj82jpu6xD5AZ_68dUeqyDAQ6PJXy2A239zXPHeRIBUx TCmw.0HR9oGLCyU4_1st0kTyLjRA2w_Ncgi8QQF9dN5ytNBji.Sh8G_U- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1508556698-1308154423=:9719" Resent-Message-ID: <8Mn8BD.A.EtF.5oN-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:13:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-1508556698-1308154423=:9719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable True. They were excellent in the 80's. They are certainly competent, etc. B= ut,=C2=A0 isn't their current fame blown all out of proportion (particularl= y Bono)? I'm sure a lot of folks still love the band but I personally don't= listen to their stuff at all.=20 --- On Wed, 6/15/11, todd reynolds wrote: From: todd reynolds Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 12:06 PM good point, Jeff... thanks for the visual. =C2=A0Haven't seen that for ages= . =C2=A0Really great work there. A really in tune band, so well rehearsed, = and organic. Did I mention well-mixed as well? =C2=A0what a great recording= for a live show!=C2=A0 T. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrot= e: > =C2=A0but i have listened to the music that they made during the early 80= 's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks" cate= gory. Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone could possibly have listened to or be inspire= d by these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DajhOjFwuddQ&feature=3Drelated --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =E2=80=A2 The most recent newsletter is here. =E2=80=A2=C2=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available= wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0-1508556698-1308154423=:9719 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
True. They were excellent in the 80's. They a= re certainly competent, etc. But,  isn't their current fame blown all = out of proportion (particularly Bono)? I'm sure a lot of folks still love t= he band but I personally don't listen to their stuff at all.

--- On= Wed, 6/15/11, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote= :

From: todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com>Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone
To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 12:06 PM
good point, Jeff... thanks for the visual.  Ha= ven't seen that for ages.  Really great work there. A really in tune b= and, so well rehearsed, and organic. Did I mention well-mixed as well? &nbs= p;what a great recording for a live show! 

T.



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jef= f Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrot= e:

>  but i = have listened to the music that they made during the early 80's and in my e= stimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks" category.

Y= eah, I'm not sure how anyone could possibly have listened to or be inspired= by these guys:

http://www.youtub= e.com/watch?v=3DajhOjFwuddQ&feature=3Drelated





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=E2=80=A2 The most recent newsletter is here.

=E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avai= lable wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists P= age.





--0-1508556698-1308154423=:9719-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:14:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44E76184127; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: U2 or Giterdun References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: U2 or Giterdun thread-index: Acwrd0W21xVdjJ65QkGGQaDJZiYy3A== Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:14:03 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2011 16:14:51.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B292EF0:01CC2B77] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:14:53 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:50 AM, "Jeff Shirkey" wrote: > inspired by these guys: Yeah all you need is a cute accent and cutoff shirt sleeves, wait, thats Lar= ry the Cable Guy!!!!! Funny how musicians are, doubt if the guys who make Reese Cups sit around an= d think that Snickers suck and cant imagine why anybody'd like them, instead= of trying to figure out how to sell more Reese's to the Snicker lovers.=20 Business, business, business, that's why they call it The Music Business.=20= Otherwise we're just pickin'!! Having picked and biz'd for over forty years now, the great thing about toda= y is that the tools, online and print too, to facillitate touring and record= ed music sales, are incredibly useful. I cant imagine having all that stuff b= ack in the old days of putting gigs together. Man, if I had the energy and d= rive I used to have......I could be SOMEBODY!!!!!! Instead i've only put out= five solo cds and played in fifty countries and consider myself quite the m= usical failure actually.... Anybody looking for a sideman???? Andy O= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:15:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DE4B184158; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=Z0oSugalrVwA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=cW4-NtOyAAAA:8 a=-BfRU57ozvErfoU_e1gA:9 a=zCoYkd6Um9sFLKQVLbQA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Ez2Y-rftH6UA:10 a=cSiRVyiL2MfO72tEq5sA:9 a=QaR9QkHDlDIOx_w43xYA:7 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:15:18 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <7e574faf.9ab5c.1309415dafa.Webtop.49@charter.net> Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2511597_2134164060.1308154518250" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 49 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:15:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2511597_2134164060.1308154518250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm just picking up on this thread mid-stream, so forgive me if i missed=20 something. James...you are welcome to your opinion. But if you so easily dismiss a=20 legitimate band with a huge catalog of work and a long successful career=20 into a "sucks" category, then I'm sure you're up to the task of having=20 bands you like and respect put into the "sucks" category by others.=20 Since it's all just opinions and personal taste, anyway? Any big, successful bands that you like? I don't listen to U2 much anymore. I was very much into their early=20 work, all the way up to Unforgettable Fire. At that point, I was=20 already a BIG Eno fan, so when I heard he was going to be involved with=20 that record, I awaited it's release eagerly, and wasn't disappointed. I=20 think that album is a high point of their body of work, and remains my=20 favorite of their entire catalog. Following that, their path to=20 superstardom began, and I was moving into more obscure tastes at the=20 time, so I slowly stopped following and listening to them. However, I do have a large amount of respect for them, beyond just their=20 output and success. If you haven't seen it yet, I would recommend seeing "It Might Get=20 Loud", where U2's Edge pairs up with Jimmy Page of Zeppelin, and Jack=20 White of White Stripes/Raconteurs/Dead Weather. I think it's a highly=20 entertaining and informative film that allows the audience to see into=20 the method and mindset of each guitar player and how they approach the=20 instrument. Just based on that film alone, I think I would be hard pressed to put=20 Edge into anything remotely resembling "sucking". When you hear Jimmy=20 Page, YOU KNOW it's Jimmy Page, from the first couple of chords. The=20 same goes for Jack White. These players have forged a signature sound=20 that is ALL THEIR OWN. Others can mimic it, but the original sound=20 resides with these players. Edge is no different. I think that if a=20 self taught, 'punk rock' school of thought type of player like Edge can=20 forge and refine his own sound to the point that it is instantly=20 recognizable, that is a HUGE feat and in no way "sucks", even if you=20 don't like the music much, or if it doesn't connect to you. Also, I had the opportunity to meet Bono, in 1987 while they were on=20 tour for The Joshua Tree. Bono was, at the time, very involved with=20 Amnesty International (another good reason to keep them out of the=20 'suck' pile, IMO) and was very interested in Central and South American=20 issues. My boss was a Chilean exile, who went through a lot of hell and=20 barely escaped with his life during the Pinochet coup. Long story=20 short, we got to go meet Bono during an interview Q&A. He said one=20 thing towards the end of the interview that struck me to this day. He=20 said he wanted to write songs and make music that had the same sense of=20 urgency and strength for HIS generation, that "My Generation" by The Who=20 had for that generation. An anthem, that people connected to and=20 resonated with on a visceral level. He felt compelled to work towards=20 this goal. OK....this is 1987. They're already rock stars and have 'Sunday Bloody=20 Sunday', 'Gloria' and 'Pride' under their belts...and he's still hungry=20 to write something stronger? Now fast forward to present and look at the body of work they've=20 produced? Sheesh... I may not be into them much these days, but "suck"? Sorry, I'm not that=20 bitter. There is a smorgasbord of bands that suck much more than those=20 boys. just my opinion... Rich On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:18 AM, james fowler wrote: depending on how you define "early 80's", i was anywhere between the=20 ages of 1 and 6.=C2=A0 so no, i did not listen to them during the early=20 80's.=C2=A0 but i have listened to the music that they made during the earl= y=20 80's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks"=20 category.=C2=A0 just my opinion... On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jeff Shirkey < jcshirke@frontier.com=20 >=20 wrote: On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote: U2 sucks. Yeah? Why's that? I guess because you say so? Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did you have the same opinion? Jeff ------=_Part_2511597_2134164060.1308154518250 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
I'm just picking up on this thread mid-strea= m, so forgive me if i missed something.

<= DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT">James...you are welcome to your opinion. = ; But if you so easily dismiss a legitimate band with a huge catalog of wor= k and a long successful career into a "sucks" category, then I'm = sure you're up to the task of having bands you like and respect put into th= e "sucks" category by others.  Since it's all just opinions = and personal taste, anyway?

Any big, successful bands that you like?

I don't listen to U2 much = anymore.  I was very much into their early work, all the way up to Unf= orgettable Fire.  At that point, I was already a BIG Eno fan, so when = I heard he was going to be involved with that record, I awaited it's releas= e eagerly, and wasn't disappointed.  I think that album is a high poin= t of their body of work, and remains my favorite of their entire catalog.&n= bsp; Following that, their path to superstardom began, and I was moving int= o more obscure tastes at the time, so I slowly stopped following and listen= ing to them.

However, I do have a large amount of respect for them, beyond just their= output and success.

= If you haven't seen it yet, I would recommend seeing "It Mi= ght Get Loud", where U2's Edge pairs up with Jimmy Page of Zeppelin, a= nd Jack White of White Stripes/Raconteurs/Dead Weather.  I think it's = a highly entertaining and informative film that allows the audience to see = into the method and mindset of each guitar player and how they approach the= instrument.

Just based on that film alone, I think I would be hard pressed to put Ed= ge into anything remotely resembling "sucking".  When you he= ar Jimmy Page, YOU KNOW it's Jimmy Page, from the first couple of chords.&n= bsp; The same goes for Jack White.  These players have forged a signat= ure sound that is ALL THEIR OWN.  Others can mimic it, but the origina= l sound resides with these players.  Edge is no different.  I thi= nk that if a self taught, 'punk rock' school of thought type of player like= Edge can forge and refine his own sound to the point that it is instantly = recognizable, that is a HUGE feat and in no way "sucks", even if = you don't like the music much, or if it doesn't connect to you.
Also, I had the oppor= tunity to meet Bono, in 1987 while they were on tour for The Joshua Tree.&n= bsp; Bono was, at the time, very involved with Amnesty International (anoth= er good reason to keep them out of the 'suck' pile, IMO) and was very inter= ested in Central and South American issues.  My boss was a Chilean exi= le, who went through a lot of hell and barely escaped with his life during = the Pinochet coup.  Long story short, we got to go meet Bono during an= interview Q&A.  He said one thing towards the end of the intervie= w that struck me to this day.  He said he wanted to write songs and ma= ke music that had the same sense of urgency and strength for HIS generation= , that "My Generation" by The Who had for that generation.  = An anthem, that people connected to and resonated with on a visceral level.=   He felt compelled to work towards this goal.

OK....this is 1987.  They'r= e already rock stars and have 'Sunday Bloody Sunday', 'Gloria' and 'Pride' = under their belts...and he's still hungry to write something stronger?

Now fast for= ward to present and look at the body of work they've produced?
=
Sheesh...
=
I may not be into them= much these days, but "suck"?  Sorry, I'm not that bitter.&n= bsp; There is a smorgasbord of bands that suck much more than those boys.

just my opi= nion...

Ri= ch

On Wed,= Jun 15, 2011 at 8:18 AM, james fowler wrote:

 depending on how= you define "early 80's", i was anywhere between the ages of 1 an= d 6.=C2=A0 so no, i did not listen to them during the early 80's.=C2=A0 but= i have listened to the music that they made during the early 80's and in m= y estimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks" categ= ory.=C2=A0

just my opinion...

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jeff Shirkey < jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:

On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote:

U2 sucks.

Yeah? Why's that? I guess= because you say so?

Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did you have the sa= me opinion?

Jeff



------=_Part_2511597_2134164060.1308154518250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:17:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 460B8184165; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vT9vkN3vVXssH3Ov7r/wQUs/sfIFjNPEFFf4aeKIi4A= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=Z0oSugalrVwA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=HlutkkLd2RvcXf3FoCoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:17:41 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <569b48a4.9abcb.1309418092c.Webtop.49@charter.net> Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 49 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:17:41 +0000 (UTC) > Yes, the Edge in my opinion, truly makes > some amazing textures with just a guitar and an echo. hahaha! true, true... but have you seen that boys' rig? uh.... there's quite a bit more than just a guitar and an echo happening! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:18:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E544183A71; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <311327D4-AE51-418A-8B76-023B0570B45C@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Something I just wanted to share with everyone thread-index: Acwrd+VAnR1Av3KbS+mbZ/DT9wY/1g== Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:18:35 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2011 16:18:55.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC4FFF30:01CC2B77] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:18:56 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:50 AM, "Jeff Shirkey" wrote: > these guys: And yes awesome vid thanks, man to play to kind of crowd, wow....have played= to six to eight thou crowds quite a few times, but that, wow.=20 Andy o >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:20:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D166F18417A; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iBS5dvmNls06ZBDeoV5zflsAmP56ZVGKeUMunxhiXWY=; b=L66oM26ZRLt8JFtMqJr6cVVIwHziI9br9z8c8p8xE/SDAZlX9CRF4oinuzj2DUqV/6 4ESpKOau+nVDliu9T9IME49F6kBDFmwIhbHmsLRdT9NMw4qfh+Ovw+i6rjn+dQFMYB5I 5WT5gkt2eDniOQgD+NERStY29bOPtebSB2+Kg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XfqWfX/39a6a/D8Ph/VFTsJ8pLWie/wS2VWRLvG11dJ1r1dsCoXYwhqx0/gI1DR4Vt cb99D/V/s3z1Jc1miQ/xsZgm/gFOaReU3NrryJ4wWGJkXvrItCdvJ1Jw3MgMfoEJudSB ck5b09r6Z7R0Zf7Yljc+ep1WbEYGvkhvwNJak= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:20:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:20:03 +0000 (UTC) >> =C2=A0but i have listened to the music that they made during the early 8= 0's and >> in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks" category= . On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote= : > > Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone could possibly have listened to or be inspi= red > by these guys: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DajhOjFwuddQ&feature=3Drelated > LOL! I liked U2's debut album in -80 but can't say I would like to watch this live video again ;-) On record they sounded interesting but I wouldn't say I liked them as much as for example Pat Metheney and Jon Hassell, that were still album debutants then, but to me U2 appeared quite fresh in comparison with many other band around 1980 that were copying clich=C3=A9s from blues or Bob Dylan. In 1980 they were just another new band and they played a little differently than many others. In short time local bands started copying The Edge's guitar sound (8ths synced delay, loud in the mix but darker than the guitars direct sound. That was a new vision in guitar sound) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:22:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A969518417D; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=Z0oSugalrVwA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=cW4-NtOyAAAA:8 a=-BfRU57ozvErfoU_e1gA:9 a=zCoYkd6Um9sFLKQVLbQA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Ez2Y-rftH6UA:10 a=cSiRVyiL2MfO72tEq5sA:9 a=OiNcXE0TrvBHForI6okA:7 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:22:01 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <55c377be.9ac9b.130941c0296.Webtop.49@charter.net> Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2513081_135198001.1308154921605" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 49 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2513081_135198001.1308154921605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm just picking up on this thread mid-stream, so forgive me if i missed=20 something. James...you are welcome to your opinion. But if you so easily dismiss a=20 legitimate band with a huge catalog of work and a long successful career=20 into a "sucks" category, then I'm sure you're up to the task of having=20 bands you like and respect put into the "sucks" category by others.=20 Since it's all just opinions and personal taste, anyway? Any big, successful bands that you like? I don't listen to U2 much anymore. I was very much into their early=20 work, all the way up to Unforgettable Fire. At that point, I was=20 already a BIG Eno fan, so when I heard he was going to be involved with=20 that record, I awaited it's release eagerly, and wasn't disappointed. I=20 think that album is a high point of their body of work, and remains my=20 favorite of their entire catalog. Following that, their path to=20 superstardom began, and I was moving into more obscure tastes at the=20 time, so I slowly stopped following and listening to them. However, I do have a large amount of respect for them, beyond just their=20 output and success. If you haven't seen it yet, I would recommend seeing "It Might Get=20 Loud", where U2's Edge pairs up with Jimmy Page of Zeppelin, and Jack=20 White of White Stripes/Raconteurs/Dead Weather. I think it's a highly=20 entertaining and informative film that allows the audience to see into=20 the method and mindset of each guitar player and how they approach the=20 instrument. Just based on that film alone, I think I would be hard pressed to put=20 Edge into anything remotely resembling "sucking". When you hear Jimmy=20 Page, YOU KNOW it's Jimmy Page, from the first couple of chords. The=20 same goes for Jack White. These players have forged a signature sound=20 that is ALL THEIR OWN. Others can mimic it, but the original sound=20 resides with these players. Edge is no different. I think that if a=20 self taught, 'punk rock' school of thought type of player like Edge can=20 forge and refine his own sound to the point that it is instantly=20 recognizable, that is a HUGE feat and in no way "sucks", even if you=20 don't like the music much, or if it doesn't connect to you. Also, I had the opportunity to meet Bono, in 1987 while they were on=20 tour for The Joshua Tree. Bono was, at the time, very involved with=20 Amnesty International (another good reason to keep them out of the=20 'suck' pile, IMO) and was very interested in Central and South American=20 issues. My boss was a Chilean exile, who went through a lot of hell and=20 barely escaped with his life during the Pinochet coup. Long story=20 short, we got to go meet Bono during an interview Q&A. He said one=20 thing towards the end of the interview that struck me to this day. He=20 said he wanted to write songs and make music that had the same sense of=20 urgency and strength for HIS generation, that "My Generation" by The Who=20 had for that generation. An anthem, that people connected to and=20 resonated with on a visceral level. He felt compelled to work towards=20 this goal. OK....this is 1987. They're already rock stars and have 'Sunday Bloody=20 Sunday', 'Gloria' and 'Pride' under their belts...and he's still hungry=20 to write something stronger? Now fast forward to present and look at the body of work they've=20 produced? Sheesh... I may not be into them much these days, but "suck"? Sorry, I'm not that=20 bitter. There is a smorgasbord of bands that suck much more than those=20 boys. just my opinion... Rich On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:18 AM, james fowler wrote: depending on how you define "early 80's", i was anywhere between the=20 ages of 1 and 6.=C2=A0 so no, i did not listen to them during the early=20 80's.=C2=A0 but i have listened to the music that they made during the earl= y=20 80's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "sucks"=20 category.=C2=A0 just my opinion... On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jeff Shirkey < jcshirke@frontier.com=20 >=20 wrote: On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote: U2 sucks. Yeah? Why's that? I guess because you say so? Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did you have the same opinion? Jeff ------=_Part_2513081_135198001.1308154921605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
I'm just picking up on this thread mid-strea= m, so forgive me if i missed something.

=
James...you are welcome to your opinion.&nbs= p; But if you so easily dismiss a legitimate band with a huge catalog of wo= rk and a long successful career into a "sucks" category, then I'm= sure you're up to the task of having bands you like and respect put into t= he "sucks" category by others.  Since it's all just opinions= and personal taste, anyway?

Any big, successful bands that you like?
=
I don't listen to U2 m= uch anymore.  I was very much into their early work, all the way up to= Unforgettable Fire.  At that point, I was already a BIG Eno fan, so w= hen I heard he was going to be involved with that record, I awaited it's re= lease eagerly, and wasn't disappointed.  I think that album is a high = point of their body of work, and remains my favorite of their entire catalo= g.  Following that, their path to superstardom began, and I was moving= into more obscure tastes at the time, so I slowly stopped following and li= stening to them.

However, I do have a large amount of respect for them, beyond just = their output and success.

If you haven't seen it yet, I would recommend seeing "= ;It Might Get Loud", where U2's Edge pairs up with Jimmy Page of Zeppe= lin, and Jack White of White Stripes/Raconteurs/Dead Weather.  I think= it's a highly entertaining and informative film that allows the audience t= o see into the method and mindset of each guitar player and how they approa= ch the instrument.

<= FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN= ING=3D"0">Just based on that film alone, I think I would be hard pressed to= put Edge into anything remotely resembling "sucking".  When= you hear Jimmy Page, YOU KNOW it's Jimmy Page, from the first couple of ch= ords.  The same goes for Jack White.  These players have forged a= signature sound that is ALL THEIR OWN.  Others can mimic it, but the = original sound resides with these players.  Edge is no different. = ; I think that if a self taught, 'punk rock' school of thought type of play= er like Edge can forge and refine his own sound to the point that it is ins= tantly recognizable, that is a HUGE feat and in no way "sucks", e= ven if you don't like the music much, or if it doesn't connect to you.

Also, I had = the opportunity to meet Bono, in 1987 while they were on tour for The Joshu= a Tree.  Bono was, at the time, very involved with Amnesty Internation= al (another good reason to keep them out of the 'suck' pile, IMO) and was v= ery interested in Central and South American issues.  My boss was a Ch= ilean exile, who went through a lot of hell and barely escaped with his lif= e during the Pinochet coup.  Long story short, we got to go meet Bono = during an interview Q&A.  He said one thing towards the end of the= interview that struck me to this day.  He said he wanted to write son= gs and make music that had the same sense of urgency and strength for HIS g= eneration, that "My Generation" by The Who had for that generatio= n.  An anthem, that people connected to and resonated with on a viscer= al level.  He felt compelled to work towards this goal.
<= FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN= ING=3D"0">
OK....this is 1987.&nbs= p; They're already rock stars and have 'Sunday Bloody Sunday', 'Gloria' and= 'Pride' under their belts...and he's still hungry to write something stron= ger?

Now = fast forward to present and look at the body of work they've produced?

Sheesh...

I may not b= e into them much these days, but "suck"?  Sorry, I'm not tha= t bitter.  There is a smorgasbord of bands that suck much more than th= ose boys.

just my opinion...

= Rich

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:18 AM, james fowler wrote:

  = depending on how you define "early 80's", i was anywhere between = the ages of 1 and 6.=C2=A0 so no, i did not listen to them during the early= 80's.=C2=A0 but i have listened to the music that they made during the ear= ly 80's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely in the "s= ucks" category.=C2=A0

just my opinion...

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jeff = Shirkey < jcshirke@fro= ntier.com> wrote:

On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote:=

U2 sucks= .

Yeah? W= hy's that? I guess because you say so?

<= DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT">Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did= you have the same opinion?
Jeff


------=_Part_2513081_135198001.1308154921605-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:22:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6AA918418C; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkFAEbc+E0yaFkk/2dsb2JhbABSmBCORYlqv2iGJgSHGI8RizM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,370,1304294400"; d="scan'208,217";a="130670695" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.89.36 Message-Id: <116130B1-A6E6-4DA9-903C-48D8985149D4@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <569b48a4.9abcb.1309418092c.Webtop.49@charter.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--864555290 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:25:26 -0500 References: <569b48a4.9abcb.1309418092c.Webtop.49@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:22:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--864555290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > there's quite a bit more than just a guitar and an echo happening! > Not in the beginning. In the beginning, it was just a couple guitars, a couple DMMs, and an OD pedal or two, and an AC30. That was it. He added Korg SDD3K delay units in 84/85, and TC2290s and some other pedals in 87. Yes, now, he has a huge rig, but only because he wants to be able to replicate any of the songs/tones he's had over the past 30 years. At any given point, his signal path is still pretty simple. Jeff --Apple-Mail-6--864555290 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


there's quite a bit more than just a guitar and an echo happening!


Not in the beginning. In the beginning, it was just a couple guitars, a couple DMMs, and an OD pedal or two, and an AC30. That was it. He added Korg SDD3K delay units in 84/85, and TC2290s and some other pedals in 87. 

Yes, now, he has a huge rig, but only because he wants to be able to replicate any of the songs/tones he's had over the past 30 years. At any given point, his signal path is still pretty simple.

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-6--864555290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:37:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F237D184182; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-15_07:2011-06-15,2011-06-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106150117 Subject: Re: U2 or Giterdun From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:37:24 -0700 Message-id: References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:37:28 +0000 (UTC) > Having picked and biz'd for over forty years now, the great thing about today is that the tools, online and print too, to facillitate touring and recorded music sales, are incredibly useful. I cant imagine having all that stuff back in the old days of putting gigs together. Man, if I had the energy and drive I used to have......I could be SOMEBODY!!!!!! Instead i've only put out five solo cds and played in fifty countries and consider myself quite the musical failure actually.... 5 Solo albums! Nothing to sneeze at. Fail Up Fail Over! Long live failure -- Its the price of admission for my creativity. d On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:50 AM, "Jeff Shirkey" wrote: > >> inspired by these guys: > > Yeah all you need is a cute accent and cutoff shirt sleeves, wait, thats Larry the Cable Guy!!!!! > > Funny how musicians are, doubt if the guys who make Reese Cups sit around and think that Snickers suck and cant imagine why anybody'd like them, instead of trying to figure out how to sell more Reese's to the Snicker lovers. > > Business, business, business, that's why they call it The Music Business. > > Otherwise we're just pickin'!! > > Having picked and biz'd for over forty years now, the great thing about today is that the tools, online and print too, to facillitate touring and recorded music sales, are incredibly useful. I cant imagine having all that stuff back in the old days of putting gigs together. Man, if I had the energy and drive I used to have......I could be SOMEBODY!!!!!! Instead i've only put out five solo cds and played in fifty countries and consider myself quite the musical failure actually.... > > Anybody looking for a sideman???? > > Andy O From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:40:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F3B218418D; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <569b48a4.9abcb.1309418092c.Webtop.49@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <569b48a4.9abcb.1309418092c.Webtop.49@charter.net> Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:40:48 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:40:50 +0000 (UTC) -----Original Message----- From: thetoyroom@charter.net Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:17 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone > Yes, the Edge in my opinion, truly makes > some amazing textures with just a guitar and an echo. hahaha! true, true... but have you seen that boys' rig? uh.... there's quite a bit more than just a guitar and an echo happening! I'm reminded of something Keith Richards said about U2 in an interview for Musician I think, waaaay back in the early eighties. Something about how the only real passion coming out of the band had to do with the size of their Marshall amps... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:42:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19C0018419B; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkFAEPg+E0yaFkk/2dsb2JhbABSmBCORYlqv3qGJgSHGI8RizM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,370,1304294400"; d="scan'208,217";a="110036061" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.89.36 Message-Id: <595901E8-50DB-4730-8103-EFD08EDF53A5@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <60585.9719.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--863293518 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:46:28 -0500 References: <60585.9719.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:42:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--863293518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't fame "blown all out of proportion" by definition, though? I see your point, of course, but I think I would argue that anyone who happens to be famous --by definition--fits the description. On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > True. They were excellent in the 80's. They are certainly competent, > etc. But, isn't their current fame blown all out of proportion > (particularly Bono)? I'm sure a lot of folks still love the band but > I personally don't listen to their stuff at all. > > --Apple-Mail-7--863293518 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't fame "blown all out of proportion" by definition, though? I see your point, of course, but I think I would argue that anyone who happens to be famous --by definition--fits the description.

On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul Richards wrote:

True. They were excellent in the 80's. They are certainly competent, etc. But,  isn't their current fame blown all out of proportion (particularly Bono)? I'm sure a lot of folks still love the band but I personally don't listen to their stuff at all.


--Apple-Mail-7--863293518-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:43:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11161183A89; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 634021531/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoBAPjg+E1YbR4W/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgQmC+/eoYmBJYbiyQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,370,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="634021531" Message-ID: <4DF8E12B.4050902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:43:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Syncing two EDPS References: <4DF8C1E9.90303@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:43:28 +0000 (UTC) marcus kirby wrote: > Would I just need a midi through box? Electribe to EDP1 EDP1 Out to EDP 2 EDP 1 Through to Moog MP201 (assuming you still need the Moog) > > I think my issue is that I need them to be on separate midi channels. > Basically, I need one controller to control both edps, and I don.commt > think my behringer or anything else does that. Put both EDPs on one channel, but use the Source# param to check them to work in different ranges. andy > > On Jun 15, 2011 9:29 AM, "andy butler" > wrote: > > Can't you just midi sync the EDPs ? > > A splitter after the Electribe? > > > > params > > SYNC = In > > 8th/Cycle = length of bar > > > > OR > > > > the edp looptimes can be shown as slightly different, > > and they'll still be in sync, as the syncing action > > chops the loop slightly. > > I'd guess actual beat length is .505 (or so) > > and the edps should stick to that. > > > > > > andy > > > > marcus kirby wrote: > >> Here's my current setup: > >> > >> Electribe midi out -> Moog MP201 Midi in -> CV Gate on/off to EDP1 and > >> EDP2 Beat Sync. > >> > >> EDP one ranges anywhere from .50 to .51 when trying to catch the beat, > >> which is fine when it's just one EDP. But when two start going > together, > >> I'll have one at .51 and the other at .50, which makes EDP2 slightly > off > >> sync. > >> > >> Is there a better way to sync the two? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 16:49:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96DBC1841A8; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jaf/G/A02PY4liTEOPyoP3meaQneQ52DSGHHwaCBr0E=; b=xM9O0qp/fnmeWv+nQQZ5c3AIP7bkLfJNM2uKrbfymBLVFGaCGCeiuKdN5t3d+GlXer 1cuu1qVoP/Iv2BVGDFlgaqUdPUZSjGosRNB1lWOwpbRo/U65F2jLM7XVmonhcdwnN2eM kHLyaxEuAtePaYk760ltixO9P3AS6gqPAKcR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RqZKL8OvcNXUR7u3hQymAvr5cb06GYh1iZvuTZigZG+ZY4YVfdsgGjyOpwGfVKqxZB 7TE0WHwNNsY5KlZoMXC60Y6+EDEE2z3IXXMwYMEeb9kbtGF3hb38KkvsHGsXeesoz7w0 LLTHVud+3BINXtMHKjlfCav6Wc/lUELf/yD/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <116130B1-A6E6-4DA9-903C-48D8985149D4@frontier.com> References: <569b48a4.9abcb.1309418092c.Webtop.49@charter.net> <116130B1-A6E6-4DA9-903C-48D8985149D4@frontier.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:45:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:49:38 +0000 (UTC) > replicate any of the songs/tones he's had over the past 30 years. At any > given point, his signal path is still pretty simple. But just think what it could sound like if he decided to complicate it. Kevin (who really doesn't listen much to U2 but can enjoy the occasional tu= ne) --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 17:02:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C3D21840F6; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=/f7dEsk02MhWeHovwL7q+hDULOInfjGOBBcc5v/yaDc=; b=c+Qe2Om6oy/4qp3gt7l+TwElpWoFThreqmCNxfROgBA/eCa6z4GYIHCvwZiH6b8SCs R8Z4JT5NT7Z5X3aqk32UBzbDaK7pLJFJxxIkAPuI5P4lh1Lj00CPIjxBLexffLdZjFWs ZImS9ACUICPdQr83cPeVWGBOOhHr2N80u+/oQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=sgFCgtH7vzTYtd6bqok+BrX7i2RMaSe3gVZCQcQveTlJNoqjBroq4hZxagQA0r/r6r xx5KWAZSxlvxT3vcYBsL2hx/NUho5MzeDswB0VymkJJTeEIcJTvGk8xT5dEzBV+wnr+h jh19qeDayCb7tUDwyzFOqw2A3xtqEmfayR0Dk= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:02:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1d58ebef6204a5c31ded Resent-Message-ID: <6g4jqB.A.u8H.jWO-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:02:27 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1d58ebef6204a5c31ded Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks. I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope you won'= t mind me sharing this bit of joy. First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the first cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden for the Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as part of nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-classica= ls-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far Thanks for indulging. I don't have it set up for free streaming yet, but a= s soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. Lovin' all this U2 lovin' n hatin'. good convos of late. Todd --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . --0015174c1d58ebef6204a5c31ded Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks.=A0

I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probabl= y a mistake), so I hope you won't mind me sharing this bit of joy.=A0

First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premieri= ng Transamerica, the first cut off my record, at the World Financial Center= 's Winter Garden for the Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 n= oon segment...=A0

and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice m= ention, as part of nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far...=A0
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Thanks for indulging. =A0I don't have it set up for= free streaming yet, but as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'= ll post it. =A0

meanwhile, all the very very best = to everyone. =A0Lovin' all this U2 lovin' n hatin'. =A0good con= vos of late.

Todd


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--0015174c1d58ebef6204a5c31ded-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 17:10:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 227D3184101; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2272 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:44 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <55c377be.9ac9b.130941c0296.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <55c377be.9ac9b.130941c0296.Webtop.49@charter.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--864132808 Message-Id: From: Revfever Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone (U2 / Eno) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:32:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--864132808 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Some more interesting U2 history: http://www.atu2.com/news/connections/eno/ Cheers Rev. Fever Portland,OR The Angry Red Planet On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:22 AM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > I'm just picking up on this thread mid-stream, so forgive me if i > missed something. > > James...you are welcome to your opinion. But if you so easily > dismiss a legitimate band with a huge catalog of work and a long > successful career into a "sucks" category, then I'm sure you're up > to the task of having bands you like and respect put into the > "sucks" category by others. Since it's all just opinions and > personal taste, anyway? > > Any big, successful bands that you like? > > I don't listen to U2 much anymore. I was very much into their > early work, all the way up to Unforgettable Fire. At that point, I > was already a BIG Eno fan, so when I heard he was going to be > involved with that record, I awaited it's release eagerly, and > wasn't disappointed. I think that album is a high point of their > body of work, and remains my favorite of their entire catalog. > Following that, their path to superstardom began, and I was moving > into more obscure tastes at the time, so I slowly stopped following > and listening to them. > > However, I do have a large amount of respect for them, beyond just > their output and success. > > If you haven't seen it yet, I would recommend seeing "It Might Get > Loud", where U2's Edge pairs up with Jimmy Page of Zeppelin, and > Jack White of White Stripes/Raconteurs/Dead Weather. I think it's > a highly entertaining and informative film that allows the audience > to see into the method and mindset of each guitar player and how > they approach the instrument. > > Just based on that film alone, I think I would be hard pressed to > put Edge into anything remotely resembling "sucking". When you > hear Jimmy Page, YOU KNOW it's Jimmy Page, from the first couple of > chords. The same goes for Jack White. These players have forged a > signature sound that is ALL THEIR OWN. Others can mimic it, but > the original sound resides with these players. Edge is no > different. I think that if a self taught, 'punk rock' school of > thought type of player like Edge can forge and refine his own sound > to the point that it is instantly recognizable, that is a HUGE feat > and in no way "sucks", even if you don't like the music much, or if > it doesn't connect to you. > > Also, I had the opportunity to meet Bono, in 1987 while they were > on tour for The Joshua Tree. Bono was, at the time, very involved > with Amnesty International (another good reason to keep them out of > the 'suck' pile, IMO) and was very interested in Central and South > American issues. My boss was a Chilean exile, who went through a > lot of hell and barely escaped with his life during the Pinochet > coup. Long story short, we got to go meet Bono during an interview > Q&A. He said one thing towards the end of the interview that > struck me to this day. He said he wanted to write songs and make > music that had the same sense of urgency and strength for HIS > generation, that "My Generation" by The Who had for that > generation. An anthem, that people connected to and resonated with > on a visceral level. He felt compelled to work towards this goal. > > OK....this is 1987. They're already rock stars and have 'Sunday > Bloody Sunday', 'Gloria' and 'Pride' under their belts...and he's > still hungry to write something stronger? > > Now fast forward to present and look at the body of work they've > produced? > > Sheesh... > > I may not be into them much these days, but "suck"? Sorry, I'm not > that bitter. There is a smorgasbord of bands that suck much more > than those boys. > > just my opinion... > > Rich > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:18 AM, james fowler wrote: > > depending on how you define "early 80's", i was anywhere between > the ages of 1 and 6. so no, i did not listen to them during the > early 80's. but i have listened to the music that they made during > the early 80's and in my estimation it would be classified squarely > in the "sucks" category. > > just my opinion... > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jeff Shirkey < > jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote: > > U2 sucks. > > Yeah? Why's that? I guess because you say so? > > Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did you have the same > opinion? > > Jeff > > > --Apple-Mail-6--864132808 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Some more interesting U2 history:
http://www.atu2.com/new= s/connections/eno/

Cheers
Rev. = Fever
Portland,OR
The Angry Red = Planet

On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:22 AM, = thetoyroom@charter.net wrote:

I'm just picking up on this thread = mid-stream, so forgive me if i missed something.

James...you= are welcome to your opinion.  But if you so easily dismiss a = legitimate band with a huge catalog of work and a long successful career = into a "sucks" category, then I'm sure you're up to the task of having = bands you like and respect put into the "sucks" category by = others.  Since it's all just opinions and personal taste, anyway? =

Any big, successful bands that you like? =

I don't listen to U2 much anymore.  I was very much = into their early work, all the way up to Unforgettable Fire.  At = that point, I was already a BIG Eno fan, so when I heard he was going to = be involved with that record, I awaited it's release eagerly, and wasn't = disappointed.  I think that album is a high point of their body of = work, and remains my favorite of their entire catalog.  Following = that, their path to superstardom began, and I was moving into more = obscure tastes at the time, so I slowly stopped following and listening = to them.

However, I do have a large amount of respect for them, = beyond just their output and success.

If you = haven't seen it yet, I would recommend seeing "It Might Get Loud", where = U2's Edge pairs up with Jimmy Page of Zeppelin, and Jack White of White = Stripes/Raconteurs/Dead Weather.  I think it's a highly = entertaining and informative film that allows the audience to see into = the method and mindset of each guitar player and how they approach the = instrument.

Just based on that film alone, I think = I would be hard pressed to put Edge into anything remotely resembling = "sucking".  When you hear Jimmy Page, YOU KNOW it's Jimmy Page, = from the first couple of chords.  The same goes for Jack = White.  These players have forged a signature sound that is ALL = THEIR OWN.  Others can mimic it, but the original sound resides = with these players.  Edge is no different.  I think that if a = self taught, 'punk rock' school of thought type of player like Edge can = forge and refine his own sound to the point that it is instantly = recognizable, that is a HUGE feat and in no way "sucks", even if you = don't like the music much, or if it doesn't connect to you. =

Also, I had the opportunity to meet Bono, in 1987 while = they were on tour for The Joshua Tree.  Bono was, at the time, very = involved with Amnesty International (another good reason to keep them = out of the 'suck' pile, IMO) and was very interested in Central and = South American issues.  My boss was a Chilean exile, who went = through a lot of hell and barely escaped with his life during the = Pinochet coup.  Long story short, we got to go meet Bono during an = interview Q&A.  He said one thing towards the end of the = interview that struck me to this day.  He said he wanted to write = songs and make music that had the same sense of urgency and strength for = HIS generation, that "My Generation" by The Who had for that = generation.  An anthem, that people connected to and resonated with = on a visceral level.  He felt compelled to work towards this goal. =

OK....this is 1987.  They're already rock stars and = have 'Sunday Bloody Sunday', 'Gloria' and 'Pride' under their = belts...and he's still hungry to write something stronger? =

Now fast forward to present and look at the body of work = they've produced?

Sheesh...

I may not = be into them much these days, but "suck"?  Sorry, I'm not that = bitter.  There is a smorgasbord of bands that suck much more than = those boys.

just my opinion...

Rich =

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:18 AM, james fowler wrote: =

  depending on how you define "early = 80's", i was anywhere between the ages of 1 and 6.  so no, i did = not listen to them during the early 80's.  but i have listened to = the music that they made during the early 80's and in my estimation it = would be classified squarely in the "sucks" category.  =

just my opinion...

On Wed, = Jun 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jeff Shirkey < jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote: =

On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:51 AM, james fowler wrote: =

U2 sucks.

Yeah? Why's that? I guess because you = say so?

Did you listen to them in the early '80s? Did you have the = same opinion?

Jeff




= --Apple-Mail-6--864132808-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 18:13:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9871183909; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4Fmd+Q7sHM1krXlDCdw5VaImz1eLkj2ypgkzgIGt5ts=; b=ueMeHjqhxDKMP+Oxo+mQIG5MJzFQBwIVvYI2/Oj/F9BDgZ5cCKnu8oYqqASUyDMPwI BJwnWQcysAOTLTQNSP9iO0ngESfbd6ztrN2LM5IZeooIIhUBFpnevt+mPMKYmKlBErlQ 8tlJbRkpyKdVvNoj3+72L2JIIfXMwLwL4Zftg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ukREhqxNqOLLh2WVhby8ER9aiuBcJ3CzSf40gTuExXqwEqPO1Y3F1nAu8j2eJgetCU yz9awfeQYxhAHLnlPEjrTo/GHZs9n/GhrIAKbokohG1xshu2do1sm+44fVdf7k0PM57t 6Fu63v1v/Xz7GAPFwZoSsU7Q2gyCELRZqI++4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:13:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b8e8e9d5f804a5c41c0f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:13:45 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b8e8e9d5f804a5c41c0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't have streaming yet), of Transamerica. http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica I do hope you enjoy. All the best, Todd On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > Hi folks. > > I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope you > won't mind me sharing this bit of joy. > > First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the first > cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden for the > Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... > > and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as part of > nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... > > > http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-classi= cals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far > > Thanks for indulging. I don't have it set up for free streaming yet, but > as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. > > meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. Lovin' all this U2 lovin'= n > hatin'. good convos of late. > > Todd > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > > =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever > music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page > . > > > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --00151747b8e8e9d5f804a5c41c0f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't ha= ve streaming yet), of Transamerica.


I do hope you enjoy.=A0

All th= e best,=A0

Todd


On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi folks.=A0

I rarely to= ot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope you won't mind = me sharing this bit of joy.=A0

First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering T= ransamerica, the first cut off my record, at the World Financial Center'= ;s Winter Garden for the Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon = segment...=A0

and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice m= ention, as part of nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far...=A0
=


Thanks for indulging. =A0I don't have it set up for= free streaming yet, but as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'= ll post it. =A0

meanwhile, all the very very best = to everyone. =A0Lovin' all this U2 lovin' n hatin'. =A0good con= vos of late.

Todd


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--00151747b8e8e9d5f804a5c41c0f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 18:18:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C347184150; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=C26NrKpb0c8zHHQGgFfN3Sqzuh8IIOILIj+ndDGBkFY=; b=Ktb/XIDijNyfvbXXSJGk7wkD7bjssxv8RB8vZ92TJanNP66kblVOqm9cz4b5RrYxkL Y3TqZIxzCdR2dzxIUeCCueDMJBmWxY2R17sYlUjvZkrv70yjzTSYwk+lHSwIYvFdqOBQ lh0A+qMU18iIhl+1t19ASmXWoMGsmyqY4GiFE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sVmY6VPEwc08kjEDi+1cXJY2d8P25qKCYV07ZGrahmWR+YhZnPidtdoRL9nYPkIXau 7Xt7FPoKRPeOuWCYZwTHeSD7BCWDurgVsV+M71u13RN3od62eV4fPIwv/X1WxJ1NyAo/ ClfFDcmHUY0M6ciWupSzLme2Z6EecTjtrlzK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:18:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Really great stuff. Thanks, Kevin On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't have > streaming yet), of Transamerica. > http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica > I do hope you enjoy. > All the best, > Todd > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds wrote= : >> >> Hi folks. >> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope you >> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy. >> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the firs= t >> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden for the >> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... >> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as part o= f >> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... >> >> http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-class= icals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far >> Thanks for indulging. =A0I don't have it set up for free streaming yet, = but >> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. >> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. =A0Lovin' all this U2 lov= in' >> n hatin'. =A0good convos of late. >> Todd >> >> -- >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >> =95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available where= ver >> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >> >> >> > > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > =95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherev= er > music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 20:03:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F2A8183A77; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1673 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:03:43 UTC MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: mike Subject: portalooper Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:35:50 -0500 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: "com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight." Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Hey all! I normally use an echoplex but occassionally I play live and don't have the= luxury of setting up my preferred looping eqpmt. What would you suggest th= at gives 10 to 20 seconds max looping time, layering,undo (preferred but no= t essential ), seamless drones-preferred, fade out-preferred. Thx! Peace, Plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 20:36:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86F2718412F; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF917BC.1040907@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:36:12 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Cheli-Colando CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:36:18 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > You know, I must be getting older because after having once shared > this kind of opinionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or > that didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its > just a waste of energy. Anyone who is out there trying to do > something in public is worth respect imo. Whether or not its any good > or not. > > Negativity just doesn't have the kinds of return on living I need these days. > > Kevin Here, here, Kevin! Thanks for saying it. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 20:39:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23E5618412F; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9F78jMnKXKIqoSjWS7txPpFMRmYO/+8WrSJsLiLR89k=; b=LVIJYJ6qBeGrTGs9X/rmaTARHhPaQnG9HsXk5Pb4gc0HQFTczZnS8ZH+2bPbDZXH2e 3BXQilw+0QGGN1xxDz4kRAzhQNiElOz74E29cyPoufvBCzXHIZdPP2CzCyaeBfUD0zbS 42wRcPr1wQAVq048XE1FjlPa0Jw+7vZnqdFB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=mGcoBcoKHxNG+hxKmoW2lp9Ab+Er2j/TpMK7ITHGH26lQyr9grjwhCD6QpQgIPmov3 PnbBQpdA62u+ikgJHJmLZhwH4YFKehO4mvXOAQGKk8bQfTha1Mnxa/1fvR+SYZeocWBj vdgdYNYQoEjBpTeMgsGDKUc2TVh7FlHP59eDs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF917BC.1040907@cruzio.com> References: <4DF917BC.1040907@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:39:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fe970094c0e04a5c62655 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:39:28 +0000 (UTC) --0015173fe970094c0e04a5c62655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well said, Kevin. in addition I'll offer my girlfriend's recent resolution which I've taken on as well, to be more of a doer than a thinker. This tends to eclipse the need for judgements, complaining and negative speak as well. Not easy to do, as I'm prone to all that as much as the next person. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> You know, I must be getting older because after having once shared >> this kind of opinionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or >> that didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its >> just a waste of energy. Anyone who is out there trying to do >> something in public is worth respect imo. Whether or not its any good >> or not. >> >> Negativity just doesn't have the kinds of return on living I need these >> days. >> >> Kevin >> > Here, here, Kevin! Thanks for saying it. > > Rick Walker > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015173fe970094c0e04a5c62655 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well said, Kevin. =A0in addition I'll offer my girlfriend's recent = resolution which I've taken on as well, to be more of a doer than a thi= nker. =A0This tends to eclipse the need for judgements, complaining and neg= ative speak as well. =A0Not easy to do, as I'm prone to all that as muc= h as the next person.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Rick Walker= <looppool@cruz= io.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
You know, I must be getting older because after having once shared
this kind of opinionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or that didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that i= ts
just a waste of energy. =A0Anyone who is out there trying to do
something in public is worth respect imo. =A0Whether or not its any good or not.

Negativity just doesn't have the kinds of return on living I need these= days.

Kevin
Here, here, =A0 Kevin! =A0 =A0 =A0Thanks for saying it.

Rick Walker




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=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015173fe970094c0e04a5c62655-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 20:45:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C1A418412F; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF919C6.4090103@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:44:54 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bill bigrig CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <653177.4963.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <653177.4963.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <58MLK.A.LyE.LnR-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, bill bigrig wrote: > Yes, the Edge in my opinion, truly makes > some amazing textures with just a guitar and an echo. > Rig > Yes, and if you have had the pleasure to see the love letter to the electric guitar that he, Jimmy Page and Jack White are in....... "It Might Get Loud" _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4EvZtsXz7w_ ...........it is really endearing to see how entirely humble he is about what he does and the breaks he got by answering an ad for a guitarist at his local high school. At one point he takes this ridiculously massive sound that he has going with tons of effects and turns them all off for you to see who the little man behind the curtain truly is. He's just strumming the most prosaic chord progression. It takes great humility to let the public see behind the smoke and mirrors the way he did in that movie. I have much greater respect for him as a musician and a human being after watching this moving movie. I can't more highly recommend it. (also, paranthetically, Jack White, who I am not a particular fan of, comes off as a genius musician in this movie. I just recently saw him play drums in the Dead Weather...........he was amazing on drums and then took a killer guitar solo.....I'm becoming a fan now). Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 20:54:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DE0418412D; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-15_08:2011-06-15,2011-06-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106150184 Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4DF919C6.4090103@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:54:55 -0700 Cc: bill bigrig Message-id: <13363C5F-65F3-4215-95C1-989A2CA00A67@mac.com> References: <653177.4963.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4DF919C6.4090103@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) > "It Might Get Loud" > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4EvZtsXz7w_ I became an Edge fan on the back of It Might Get Loud. Its inspiring. And, if you have not seen Michael J's "This is it" it is really worth any musicians time to absorb this amazing rehearsal footage. What a band! I presume some young bucks is saying to themselves right now.... "Michael Jackson?!! But, he really, really, Sucks!!" :) Daniel On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, bill bigrig wrote: >> Yes, the Edge in my opinion, truly makes >> some amazing textures with just a guitar and an echo. >> Rig >> > Yes, and if you have had the pleasure to see the love letter to the electric guitar that he, Jimmy Page and Jack White > are in....... > > "It Might Get Loud" > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4EvZtsXz7w_ > > ...........it is really endearing to see how entirely humble he is about what he does and the breaks he got by answering > an ad for a guitarist at his local high school. > > At one point he takes this ridiculously massive sound that he has going with tons of effects and turns them all > off for you to see who the little man behind the curtain truly is. He's just strumming the most prosaic chord progression. > It takes great humility to let the public see behind the smoke and mirrors the way he did in that movie. > > I have much greater respect for him as a musician and a human being after watching this moving movie. > > I can't more highly recommend it. (also, paranthetically, Jack White, who I am not a particular fan of, comes > off as a genius musician in this movie. I just recently saw him play drums in the Dead Weather...........he was > amazing on drums and then took a killer guitar solo.....I'm becoming a fan now). > > Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 20:56:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EE4B184131; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 References: From: richard sales Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--848245020 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:57:14 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:56:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--848245020 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Very nice, Todd! Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't have s= treaming yet), of Transamerica. >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica >=20 > I do hope you enjoy.=20 >=20 > All the best,=20 >=20 > Todd >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds wrote:= > Hi folks.=20 >=20 > I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope you won= 't mind me sharing this bit of joy.=20 >=20 > First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the first c= ut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden for the Bang= on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment...=20 >=20 > and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as part of n= prclassical's top 25 of the year so far...=20 >=20 > http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-classic= als-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far >=20 > Thanks for indulging. I don't have it set up for free streaming yet, but a= s soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. =20 >=20 > meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. Lovin' all this U2 lovin' n= hatin'. good convos of late. >=20 > Todd >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =E2=80=A2 The most recent newsletter is here. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available whe= rever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =E2=80=A2 The most recent newsletter is here. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available whe= rever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-10--848245020 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Very nice, Todd!

Richard SalesSent from my IPad


On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 A= M, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.co= m> wrote:

I fo= rgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't have stream= ing yet), of Transamerica.


I do hope you enjoy. 

All t= he best, 

Todd


On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi folks. 

I rarely t= oot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope you won't mind me s= haring this bit of joy. 

First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transa= merica, the first cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter G= arden for the Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment...&n= bsp;

and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice me= ntion, as part of nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... 


Thanks for indulging.  I don't have it set up for f= ree streaming yet, but as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post= it.  

meanwhile, all the very very best to ev= eryone.  Lovin' all this U2 lovin' n hatin'.  good convos of late.=

Todd


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=E2=80=A2 The most recent newsletter is here.

=E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now a= vailable wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.








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= --Apple-Mail-10--848245020-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 21:08:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D121183A5E; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 630837283/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkwCAO0d+U1YbR4W/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgT13+GJgSWG4sk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,371,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="630837283" Message-ID: <4DF91F62.4070400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:08:50 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone OT References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > You know, I must be getting older because after having once shared > this kind of opinionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or > that didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its > just a waste of energy. Anyone who is out there trying to do > something in public is worth respect imo. Whether or not its any good > or not. > > Negativity just doesn't have the kinds of return on living I need these days. Just a thought, but maybe it's a good thing that folk don't all like the same music. ...and who decides which opinion is negative? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 21:12:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87D8F184145; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wk5IkfbRxojJacolkxoCEJb14v1u36QP0H42SC69dWs=; b=C08NpQXcHpAsUQ0IGsZPyraQ8KCgIetl9Ns8nGVJKwJiF0lWyPHYAUL6b0wga8aUAD PYFQWHEF9jT3EgUc0xy27bJQj+ic36cVSszzbo/Vv93EZUAibKiVRZsfaPbYP3S/uxkK OChndh1SDTpGDX4dmdLPYzLbchgzME5rSWE/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jFvms45NfkEvUMEa3n3ZQQ3quwGFQXCHuFVdJIXHOsBf42bOwr+G5J2Y76nIfCnwkQ jSkm3+J2pGx8xV0UFSd+Gfbsdl8yRvNmwlf0IFRVfX1D9JDfUS0yAxsGS2VY6k4Oi4uN Lrby/kunmfuzENugGYasZcQ544pSDk5n+HJR4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF8B88B.90405@cruzio.com> References: <4DF8B88B.90405@cruzio.com> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:12:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Connecting to fanbase / Touring / some encouraging figures To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:12:44 +0000 (UTC) "I have learned, because I"m good at getting people gigs, to ALWAYS broker a deal that says, "if I can get you a gig, I expect to have you get me a gig where you live, if I tour your way." " That's how I do things too. Of course this may not apply to many of you US or Euro folks, but the offer always stands. Because really, Thunder Bay, Ontario is only 30 minutes north of the Minnesota border. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> >> ...and if my math comes up with 80 to 200 people, imagine how it >> calculates for you folks who have actual talent and/or charisma! > > In Tao Chemical, =A0 I figured out that if 100 people came to see us in e= ach > city we played in > (mostly ever big city in Northern California on a consistent basis) that = we > could break even. > We figured that we could make a living doing it if 200 people did. > > Now, that was a long time ago and we depended on either being able to dri= ve > home to sleep > or staying on someone's floor......which is a big caveat. > > I think it's vastly harder to do now and also, we had a lot of press and > radio 'buzz' about our project > which was theatrical new wave that helped out considerably. > > **************************** > > One last thing I wanted to mention on this thread which really hasn't bee= n > mentioned. > > My experience is that good fans are the key to getting more good fans. > > I have found that if you ask people to help you out (including really > busting a hump to get you gigs, > put you up for free or get out the word) that they frequently are VERY > enthusiastic about helping out. > > So many musicians feel that it is presumptuous or 'entitled' to just > brazenly ask people for help but > I've found that if you don't, =A0 you just can't succeed. > > Most musical scenes are what I would call 'small villages'. =A0 =A0Not un= like a > small village, =A0everyone knows everyone > in certain scenes. > > As an example, =A0I know everyone , practically, in the Indie Pop, =A0the > Goth/Industrial, =A0the Noise, the World Music, > the Experimental/Avant Gard and the Jazz scenes in Santa Cruz. > > if someone I know contacts me in any of those scenes, =A0I can generally = help > them put the word out and , usually, > try and get them a gig. > > I have learned, because I"m good at getting people gigs, =A0to ALWAYS bro= ker a > deal that says, =A0"if I can get you a gig, > I expect to have you get me a gig where you live, =A0if I tour your way." > > To me, this is only fair. =A0 =A0 =A0 It may sound a tad Machiavellian (s= p?) but I > find that otherwise, =A0I start resenting > helping artists to get gigs if there isn't at least a tentative willingne= ss > on their parts to reciprocate. > > All of this takes time and that time should always be respected, =A0imho! > > Rick Walker > > One good thing about this community is that you can trade putting people = up > and booking gigs for them > in exchange for putting you up and having them book gigs for you when you > tour. > > > --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 21:21:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED8E51840BD; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vT9vkN3vVXssH3Ov7r/wQUs/sfIFjNPEFFf4aeKIi4A= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=b8x5QRyv_VsA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=cJFYTPg7RWTblXVcLjcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:21:38 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <488268a6.9ee43.130952e5198.Webtop.49@charter.net> Subject: Re: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 49 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:21:39 +0000 (UTC) > I can't more highly recommend it. (also, paranthetically, Jack > White, who I am not a particular fan of, comes > off as a genius musician in this movie. I just recently saw him play > drums in the Dead Weather...........he was > amazing on drums and then took a killer guitar solo.....I'm becoming a > fan now). > > Rick Walker OH YEAH... I've never been a White Stripes fan. I respect him as an artist, but I find his guitar playing grating to my ears, and Meg is IMO a horrible drummer. But The Dead Weather? Totally rocking band, and he SMOKES as a drummer. To my ear, he reminds me so much of Bonham is his musicality with the drums. The Dead Weather show i saw on the last tour was one of the best shows i've seen in years. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 21:35:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCD801840DA; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=kWcCw/IDx4fwOdJi8YvWQ6wtQkTx+gdpcruV/fu+fv0=; b=ug+SPxk0a4RxyVlebOtg6wVDXzHGcwRt/+IxEb8y2eUbBwV6TVl9+pGFZSwALa7eG7 XsDBd/YZNykJzy91tdwq0SM1zRyaRXxJmWMt5lqi1/45vYi3k8qURPCtPanP57dnL4yD 1eRoa+UQ5fhR6PKJEMoGqM1ag59bMRo6tFh4I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=MKbuEvyw92mpSPkfk6vOe63H+o8hOjZVKQ4ov49wh8JQ+YVN8Wq6vOdgsVjNb0QOiY mEopBEsbquwTsZ3FqMcIJ6d0GQy7WhcskDDftzQvXtFKRMokN7iM3IkM8tChXCxTbodT /Z7aVUm+yoZBzSMnh+NgBDnf1nlZeCs/NcfMU= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:35:55 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4CB8BC36-58EC-4E77-9D93-4C5E3E4A4BCE@gmail.com> References: <4DF917BC.1040907@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:35:58 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:39 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > to be more of a doer than a thinker.=20 This is my constant daily struggle. I feel like if I don't fight that = constant pull I would end up starring out a window drooling the rest of = my life away only taking short breaks to read internet forums. -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 21:42:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA7C6184126; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 322462.49095.bm@omp1003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308174173; bh=5/iibSxoBDwfneP861wEFk250yFhL8UPCkji+QVMeGU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TUs/OObeoBUap16wT2VSAuPk7ZvRHlTs3mOgi+ImlH4doBjB7/i5MC519rC3qgoXVQ71geQ8P6B6WYV9ru40jTp8U6j8Ul9LT68K+fGV+vLc+Ah4xN3varGZ9r8DSwyvvzg65S+fnr2aD6vTjTuHzkuDX6dB3OPmbFyr460xlQI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1AHiAyw6QxwM4pUEdl7gUJwX9kBIL6pI92l2N3+y61Q0huvrMGVhuwApIHqp/UZ2EA7I6c449tHGSrfx1G0gn61pB68QFNjTnk8BMpABvibAauFaDOiRWCOxv9NqyU7oeph6bJs5w3zWF5qb4qc2K8vJilkcp7yciDG8J3lG03M=; Message-ID: <874462.22052.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OYxoM44VM1mfot9uA7vwVLm78yzhPQOVGwFJ4x9.zUnC30h 86jO5JC8EjoEKKcIQK_xDNSf0qaHApH32aAJC8SPfKu1zGE7E015cTxAl0Ve Y9fBQ.Ltk_FDvz79IMdvNXEhi1f7S3beDBCaN15k3oDCS3RnxIjzC0QZkRSu nwmBXU6J6quiezqG.P0rvCase8wc8DZ8PVyCJux4pc8SyN8mAr0sB5.2OkGA 6CSvwg5LLrlXSKIDNwakxGygXpAud5UBEazao3LWM5Of9niS137rUTJ.N3pv 7oAl6g4W7lGROVs8_KxEZsD0JEZGlbN.tcD.tUV.JiVkj.SbEXaWc_WS.Tyi pqkQ4Ezx.zUsORDiRVXMTqbKRMdRLvIbuvNTO2fgW55RlxXinhkQJ4pjpHiu 4QNbnzfvLBRAT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:42:53 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <569b48a4.9abcb.1309418092c.Webtop.49@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Yes, I am aware of that. Not too long back there was an article in a magaz= ine with him and his rack. He explained the whole thing. It is a lot of gea= r, which, of course, makes a lot of different sounds. I have a cassette from sometime back in the late 80s, early 90s that he di= d with Holger Czukay,(?), and another musician that I can't remember, other= than he was not world rnowned. A very good album in the tradition of Eno/B= yrne, but different styles of course. Rather obscure but good listening. So= rta like the Fripp/Summers albums. Rig --- On Wed, 6/15/11, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > From: thetoyroom@charter.net > Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 9:17 AM > > Yes, the Edge in my opinion, > truly makes > >=A0 some amazing textures with just a guitar and an > echo. >=20 > hahaha!=A0 true, true... > but have you seen that boys' rig? > uh.... > there's quite a bit more than just a guitar and an echo > happening! >=20 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 21:43:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B6D718413A; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <4DF917BC.1040907@cruzio.com> <4CB8BC36-58EC-4E77-9D93-4C5E3E4A4BCE@gmail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4CB8BC36-58EC-4E77-9D93-4C5E3E4A4BCE@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: Something I just wanted to share with everyone thread-index: AcwrpRJKPLdFn8EbRVe0/zN5SuOlhw== Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:41:57 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2011 21:43:04.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[35405AF0:01CC2BA5] Resent-Message-ID: <9cHfCD.A.4iG.qdS-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:36 PM, "Todd Matthews" wrote: > drooling the rest of my life away You know how you can tell if the stage is level, right? The drool comes out of both sides of the bass players mouth!!!! Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:05:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9126218412D; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 220509.76808.bm@omp1036.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308179145; bh=KXM/KO6w+U+HsHGfGw+ykFOF8Ud18jGKm4qcTL1D84E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3uaU5DxArWjDwhza3hjZv4E3KOaWY8doVtxP6lcJzd+0mVTUle+mwrW8Be7M/1A970sTzte+Ea+dEa8CV5YPdIoPr60LVei+Jan0xwTesOAyxAUR6ojlY1RZ3W+6pQBFuJxztY1mtA5Ow4nIDQQ4LfGxCS9wrecjdC/xtxhknDM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sLLgHwzuWYTZJFAGtX8pJ2mljI7J2WvHkEHHAizDrppq04GQ2Z0u80ozNSrbaYRRKbg4vzYcOFXuwYvH3E3ZNA1300u8CCUP3p3krd/RNs4nSS/iGEqhG7kjlw0tKUjLF7vdJ2bbL4of/1rGn5Fppa8tmthNK7ypUfDKaOeUTlY=; Message-ID: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: u_tL6p4VM1kZrVmXLHYxX7Z2Xi5uWqtMQLTq_GoJQsDm.DP QB0u8srkvH7YA9zYPT0zobmLa8bnDSQYE7Y6qBJVIRDU3XiX531gKdJOG55u reEg0gt0fWJkA0iqPMVwCAOzoDRA3QQUzO1D.iH50xZxjjKFpQri6hztlXY_ m.CG4RQweDr8ksxs_yZ23iwXpqbwW0F1rvjyJSckY8XresmSeA.1_SizB6NO q5lw49jKyfPGVMPVN4IfcKjT6Cyc_30I1xmBCrcsnF5D7a9rvjBZDkvni7ER ry91pRhKnLdrf8OwuWCjok33PbJRiUb.eVM.9h8ch5KiLriMiu4kYVBX4aBF ruA6J4U94qabjfX12Vqj97ONXrPhJA9iX0x54qUmydyDamNyQkTYvEm2okiV Tks6mBnP8QMwcF3IanLRHdLPz4kW4X_oRBps2XF5BaF9NNh2SjHYl9oBextA T62Yf2dhu_aGlD.sWZ_FOXkTB2iY- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:05:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 To: LOOPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers! =0A=0AJust wanted to share a project I'm working on: Michael M= aier's 'Atalanta Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document i= n history including 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be enj= oyed simultaneously. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, medieval = flavor, and I went for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' interpretation.= =0A=0AFor the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty = Looperlative 1. =0A=0AI basically did a live looping approach in my home = studio, layering the fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from = the LP-1 to a laptop as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching = in or editing. It was awesome to be able to record with such a high sound = quality all at the touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 voi= ced =E2=80=98BASS CHOIR=E2=80=99 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC = FRETTED BASS, and ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS. =0A=0A'Clarified Birds' my gro= up with visual artist J.F. Uccello is set to release this in December. Our = intention is to create a fine book that includes a CD along with it. Joe wi= ll be toiling at length as he=E2=80=99s planning to create 50 emblems of hi= s own inspired by and based upon the original 50. =0A=0AAfter the tracki= ng was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. Though the fugues are o= nly 1/3 of the total experience intended by Maier, I hope that sharing the = music might be of interest to any interested in music with alchemical aspec= ts, bowed bass, looping, or fine books. Here is a link to all 50 fugues st= reaming on 'soundcloud', =0A=0Ahttp://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets= =0A=0AHope you enjoy them! Steve uccello From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:09:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70D83184134; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RV4qVEXrtWWzSl6w27ntLP9LTx03VXcm0ooXR/Hdp9s=; b=lxh1CLZ3Qo8PTFJpfFEeOXzhlf6v1VWSMjHfak4bN9mKpcc21Oj0qEQCfGRhBhPTUs aa+8a0pyIYPHK6nx0OI/ACYOSLhhRR7DXGKZOQI4L3yQGblB0oMjnmr33POT+C4Xh3gy rxnGpASGkO9uMa4j8+/LqA7Z8OhsT7zRRd3i4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DLsAF9JHseiXScc+FrYcRCYiY0/1rMzK4yZXZKVsmEVTplZJHoCR0SkcvXlm2w4wd/ 7mQcg/T9D7rYa1C7dUIowVbVzapQYXb9JS7b9dlc0zu4Bi2hkaF0mvtQC2sgRioja7mX xjslzdOOjy9adlIlaCrL4VhW7oPCxoRw6LQAI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF91F62.4070400@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DF8C015.9050307@tiscali.co.uk> <4DF91F62.4070400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:09:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone OT From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2syXwD.A.bL.iuT-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Saying someone 'sucks' is pretty clearly a negative expression I'd think. Most people don't say it as a positive (which is odd if you think about it really). Diversity is always good. And I think Ted is the Decider this month (I joke) Kevin On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >> >> You know, I must be getting older because after having once shared >> this kind of opinionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or >> that didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its >> just a waste of energy. =A0Anyone who is out there trying to do >> something in public is worth respect imo. =A0Whether or not its any good >> or not. >> >> Negativity just doesn't have the kinds of return on living I need these >> days. > > > Just a thought, > but maybe it's a good thing that folk don't all like the same music. > > ...and who decides which opinion is negative? > > > andy > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:11:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF95B18414B; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=V+8Fyx3FcZb88BAexUM+QnpdzZW7ELnxXyGjquecYL4=; b=ZslWLFtL4cpG7qzziHivwxH9ZkBLbiDn3pfw5S7nEVgyDR8NPl3aUEGb63mFXm37QX QOrovL3xAgaoDiWA0Z5HyR6thSoymAARm8rmWH3urvrxPqMvCyapv+VL/j92yOodIDgP qWU8AcXuL26GRfpLZBr6MVEwnuYFX04hb24Hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fEEqmUnhB8C9X8GpI4L/IRiriD4iKdETqBo2cFPjKNlVWgu/c4flRJcnyXa6uXudsm rOGC2c0Hyv6xOmlBAzQshQlcVHeV4MQSuEWsUJEDpfPKlahloChB0JVMxVD7pJh9rea2 bSjOUaEPbFoDhZnerf2ebbML8KOsqM4VOPafg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <874462.22052.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <569b48a4.9abcb.1309418092c.Webtop.49@charter.net> <874462.22052.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:11:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2edhsB.A.HT.SwT-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:11:14 +0000 (UTC) > I have a cassette from sometime back in the late 80s, early 90s that he = did with Holger Czukay,(?), and another musician that I can't remember, oth= er than he was not world rnowned. A very good album in the tradition of Eno= /Byrne, but different styles of course. Rather obscure but good listening. = Sorta like the Fripp/Summers albums. The other player was Jah Wobble. World renowned to some people from his days with PIL and as a generally dubby guy (Bill Laswell works a lot with him) Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:15:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6184F184132; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=coJyc8p9gX0lIzom8pcnXNo1eebndNVAgD6QUe+6INc=; b=FpdVC2C8qytElXFjLubLtsjFYuorX23Ece5obdBAGrE9grbLKu3rVBVNJx5eNOzDwc 9KS67P8tCmt/Gk7qkf/VmeCfr1BPNFIi16ywI+i0Ufmfg9rrPnEPdDcrTiskKbERvhUa sxblPYQk/pgTpiST8b035a5iuh8kF1UP1OdKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i+DOgVpZGc70X6q22hLrybi/Wei9ZEvAttpM+aS3rPsW9t0yAuGb8eQGJCRWE068qD abSIcw+p/cRxxfkNYyFODMRdtOQ4SZgl4tQzAfCR+tDQ3fLVTdXVfJ19IWi8a+ML59Rj Pwo96C6TaEtoFeQHUuLOVxXBNUCgCaViewoDs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:15:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:15:24 +0000 (UTC) What an exciting project! Listening now... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Steve Uccello wr= ote: > =C2=A0Hi Loopers! > > Just wanted to share a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's 'Atalanta = Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document in history includi= ng 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be enjoyed simultaneous= ly. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, medieval flavor, and I wen= t for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' interpretation. > > For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty Looperl= ative 1. > > I basically did a live looping approach in my home studio, layering the f= ugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the LP-1 to a laptop a= s a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or editing. =C2=A0I= t was awesome to be able to record with such a high sound quality all at th= e touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 voiced =E2=80=98BASS= CHOIR=E2=80=99 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC FRETTED BASS, and= ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS. > > 'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is set to rele= ase this in December. Our intention is to create a fine book that includes = a CD along with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=E2=80=99s planning = to create 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the original 50. > > After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. Thoug= h the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended by Maier, I hope= that sharing the music might be of interest to any interested in music wit= h alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or fine books. =C2=A0Here is a l= ink to all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud', > > http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets > > Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:30:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C5B7184124; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF9408C.2010302@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:30:20 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <13363C5F-65F3-4215-95C1-989A2CA00A67@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <13363C5F-65F3-4215-95C1-989A2CA00A67@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:30:25 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > And, if you have not seen Michael J's "This is it" it is really worth any musicians time to absorb this amazing rehearsal footage. What a band! That movie was shockingly inspiring and moving to me, Daniel. I watched it out of morbid curiosity and was really, really impressed. I recommend it to anyone who loves art and who also hopes to make a positive change in the world. Inspirational!!!! Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:31:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 587E618412D; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-15_08:2011-06-15,2011-06-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106150218 Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:31:47 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Loving this!! daniel On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Steve Uccello wrote: > Hi Loopers!=20 >=20 > Just wanted to share a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's = 'Atalanta Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document in = history including 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be = enjoyed simultaneously. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, = medieval flavor, and I went for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' = interpretation. =20 >=20 > For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty = Looperlative 1. =20 >=20 > I basically did a live looping approach in my home studio, layering = the fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the LP-1 to a = laptop as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or = editing. It was awesome to be able to record with such a high sound = quality all at the touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 = voiced =91BASS CHOIR=92 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC = FRETTED BASS, and ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS. =20 >=20 > 'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is set to = release this in December. Our intention is to create a fine book that = includes a CD along with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=92s = planning to create 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the = original 50. =20 >=20 > After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. = Though the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended by = Maier, I hope that sharing the music might be of interest to any = interested in music with alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or = fine books. Here is a link to all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud',=20= >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets >=20 > Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:33:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6193F184134; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF94133.6020007@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:33:07 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thetoyroom@charter.net CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <488268a6.9ee43.130952e5198.Webtop.49@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <488268a6.9ee43.130952e5198.Webtop.49@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:33:12 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > > The Dead Weather show i saw on the last tour was one of the best shows > i've seen in years. I'd totally agree with you if I had not seen WIRE and Guided By Voices in the same time span. It's been a great year for music. Rick Walker ps .........and if I hadn't performed in the really great Done Beginner show (my wife's band) at the Crepe Place last Friday night. Something was happening that night!!!! lol. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:36:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64EB6184134; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=yWolYgkP0TByCjj5gInQNSfhVE4B1k5XbW1H/jsaj7c=; b=MDPe6wCQHtOukjOybDidRER3wOY77bv4rEtFR0vTM+C4R5WwfOSGV8+HkkWBOGRsr7 Hf4o840PocGCJMNexh3efZ3EiMjYYE7O3NJ8n3v37OELyNRPLqOeOsx5ShpkAwrtY8pG Lsu51sYqYNx0O56RLjrr0V+hfkQLARUaBit50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Vr9RI3mZjYMvDVxm3LTuWZHvDGCFvEc76vz9Zw7T9QmgHTjjiESucwxRWVy/fQmsBy h37NHg3DxJasgoErBOYHu7Gqj0mYxIBDnX5cJlPY9YXEKXLgeDu+hnFV1luviN7UsCmB 9qY/RbrSOBIrNxXYJ+eahG5h9ZFvsqAOY7uGU= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4DF9408C.2010302@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:36:04 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <13363C5F-65F3-4215-95C1-989A2CA00A67@mac.com> <4DF9408C.2010302@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <-dpeDC.A.THB.oHU-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:36:08 +0000 (UTC) I really enjoyed "It Might Get Loud." I've seen it three or four times = already but I haven't seen "This is it" yet. I gotta do something about = that this weekend. Sounds like a winner.=20 On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> And, if you have not seen Michael J's "This is it" it is really worth = any musicians time to absorb this amazing rehearsal footage. What a = band! > That movie was shockingly inspiring and moving to me, Daniel. >=20 > I watched it out of morbid curiosity and was really, really impressed. >=20 > I recommend it to anyone who loves art and who also hopes to make a = positive change in the world. > Inspirational!!!! >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 15 23:37:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83697184146; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DF94240.6040809@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:37:36 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <91JJ1B.A.YOB.IJU-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:37:44 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > The drool comes out of both sides of the bass players mouth!!!! It is so like a bass player to steal a drummers joke, Andy rw ps you know why the drummer got locked out of the car? .......pregnant pause.............. ........because the bass player couldn't figure out how to open it up from inside. .......pregnant pause.......... pu dum pum!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 00:47:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0300D18414B; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2329 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:47:53 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8mDY8c80ZOa76EOwICuS+E2YRQjxDgO9xqUnRMONc7w= c=1 sm=0 a=91aPmfgUtucA:10 a=p_P8It6jP9UA:10 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:17 a=F8L_og5jAAAA:8 a=4fFtl1qm1FmgcMFv3rQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=axAGohjrvU08xUShiI0A:9 a=8dgm45no8xUGJnMIMKoA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.76.199.163 From: "Hoby Ebert" To: Subject: All this U2 (and Eno) talk... Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:09:02 -0400 Message-ID: <53B7C24666AD408D86210CD214FE34DB@HAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AD_01CC2B98.1286CFB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: AcwruZlYk//Ky3XfSMyiOt6xgUgHSQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:47:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01CC2B98.1286CFB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit .made me think of this article. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/04/25/110425fa_fact_bilger "Our own" Mr. Eno figures quite prominently in the latter half of the article and he tells a great (at least I thought so) story about Larry Mullen Jr. Here's a very brief snippet: The idea of studying drummers had come from Brian Eno, the composer, record producer, and former member of the band Roxy Music. Over the years, Eno had worked with U2, David Byrne, David Bowie, and some of the world's most rhythmically gifted musicians. He owned a studio a few blocks away, in a converted stable on a cobblestoned cul-de-sac, and had sent an e-mail inviting a number of players to participate in Eagleman's study. "The question is: do drummers have different brains from the rest of us?" Eno said. "Everyone who has ever worked in a band is sure that they do." ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01CC2B98.1286CFB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

…made me think of this article.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/04/25/110425fa_fact_bilger=

 

“Our own” Mr. Eno figures quite prominently in the latter half of the = article and he tells a great (at least I thought so) story about Larry Mullen = Jr.

 

Here’s a very brief snippet:

 

The idea of = studying drummers had come from Brian Eno, the composer, record producer, and = former member of the band Roxy Music. Over the years, Eno had worked with U2, = David Byrne, David Bowie, and some of the world’s most rhythmically = gifted musicians. He owned a studio a few blocks away, in a converted stable on = a cobblestoned cul-de-sac, and had sent an e-mail inviting a number of = players to participate in Eagleman’s study. “The question is: do = drummers have different brains from the rest of us?” Eno said. “Everyone = who has ever worked in a band is sure that they = do.”


------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01CC2B98.1286CFB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 00:51:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70D8C184124; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=MVxTF4ACuT0HiOZgax/nW/mt0NFLSLiTwt44ZwnKRAM=; b=X3sRH8fiXXdiRN+j4rEbr8VhOVzPECq8Yj9whoSbJR7m+zIm9lPYKJUvdzjdO3lCae p34LM2Scy0m+KZ8pOVi70X5hM5+Ejxbdg7lndWyaBqd+kg8trQ8hPUM/nebTTDPBfr+t /C9Q31cHeSHmhIBTU44sTrBUOKoNGdDylMb98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Evf5ZAxsCpGhtN78wHH0a9szPRQzglhXD5I3SHAWuPDPMTDGvDl6YJlOoh1qtlRk+C XvXSlkX+90SqBylviEwzd23tah7FSUqDh0DmrKEnFmkkUbOPD8fmFUuuFf+s+0OeNRXE flAiezhPGj7GnY6iCq3CctLoGxYD3RBO+WWlg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <4DF9408C.2010302@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:36:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6809D934-6F5C-4C6A-8698-AFCA16220E5B@gmail.com> References: <13363C5F-65F3-4215-95C1-989A2CA00A67@mac.com> <4DF9408C.2010302@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Fully agree. Nothing more fascinating than watching a master, in any = discipline, at WORK.=20 On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> And, if you have not seen Michael J's "This is it" it is really worth = any musicians time to absorb this amazing rehearsal footage. What a = band! > That movie was shockingly inspiring and moving to me, Daniel. >=20 > I watched it out of morbid curiosity and was really, really impressed. >=20 > I recommend it to anyone who loves art and who also hopes to make a = positive change in the world. > Inspirational!!!! >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 01:54:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EB5F18412C; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2EHQabGSJmMVb3yNTDfqjSEPRK5dX9exC63WbWtoIMQ=; b=DhVcxIifkRFYVv48z6cWbFFgzeWcp1McdmboI7VpON5o8a9OBA0lBlieXnYLp0MUcI Zn763DWADz7d+b75MvO8H2yScxK6vY/ML8PKJYMt1HTzMKZWXxJU1Fqb7q0CwW8tgJH+ D8KNVCcHpK5Qt443Z6phKXw4up5kP0DXU15AA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=D9Ub1R4p4rQEWpMpSMNhMK2U5sgOMH4oHRgiZE1LCHctM9ctZgbD+MkuStr9dVxTQl p42C8B+hxp14jLqUarCPjYnvuNPcj5/Ix1DUgBbBK93Mo0lwcnHKhimsz8UVlDOO10Xo el0p4ghiVnpcTGvka93wpgnQ1Zn9kFKjCw0Og= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:54:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portalooper From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f367e87f00604a5ca8d73 Resent-Message-ID: <0LsVr.A.EhD.kJW-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:54:44 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f367e87f00604a5ca8d73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Mike, When I am tight for space I will feed my M9 into my DD 20 for an amazingly versatile setup. I could get by with just the M9 easily and you have all of the effects in it to use before or after the looper! It has all of your preferences covered. best, Jeff On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM, mike wrote: > > Hey all! > > I normally use an echoplex but occassionally I play live and don't have the > luxury of setting up my preferred looping eqpmt. What would you suggest that > gives 10 to 20 seconds max looping time, layering,undo (preferred but not > essential ), seamless drones-preferred, fade out-preferred. > > Thx! > > Peace, > Plish > > --20cf307f367e87f00604a5ca8d73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Mike,

When I am tight for space I will feed my M9 into my DD 20 = for an amazingly versatile setup.

I could get by with just the M9 e= asily and you have all of the effects in it to use before or after the loop= er! It has all of your preferences covered.

best,

Jeff








On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM, mike <mike@michaelplishka.com>= wrote:

Hey all!

I normally use an echoplex but occassionally I play live and don't have= the luxury of setting up my preferred looping eqpmt. What would you sugges= t that gives 10 to 20 seconds max looping time, layering,undo (preferred bu= t not essential ), seamless drones-preferred, fade out-preferred.

Thx!

Peace,
Plish


--20cf307f367e87f00604a5ca8d73-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 02:18:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E312F184129; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--829171097 From: Revfever Subject: Semi OT: Unabashed album release spam Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:15:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:18:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--829171097 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Greetings kindly LDers, Please excuse this intrusion, but I wish to announce the release of my latest project which is SKULT-Hypnofinger. ( I can already hear the sounds of corks popping from champagne bottles all over the world! :-) ) Credits also given to Jacob Hall (Portland,OR) for masterful and painstaking engineering and the "infamous" Earwig (Seattle) for the brilliant and yet insane artwork! (Note: Earwig also did the front cover art for the first Mr Bungle album ages ago, if anyone remembers that one? Jake has engineered and / co-engineered albums for Built To Spill, Wolf Parade, and an OM 7" on Subpop, and other releases) Downloads only for now. (full album or individual tunes) Hopefully, actual physical products will be available a little later. That is at least part of Thee Grand Plan.... The album has sprinklings of loopage in various parts all through out much of it, although much of the loopage is buried over and / or obscured a bit by other sounds and textures etc. But, there is at least one piece where the loopage is quite prevalent and upfront. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult The music here can possibly be labeled as 'experimental' or 'electronic' or 'ambient' or 'industrial' or 'soundscapes' or 'sound paintings' or whatever? Or, it could also just be called plain ol' 'weird and 'unusual'. That would certainly fit, as well! Definitely not what is considered 'normal' music over all, whatever that is also supposed to mean anymore? Maybe it's not "real" music at all!? (snicker) I've always considered myself to be a "sound painter" more than anything else and have viewed my instruments as my "pallet" and recording tape (yup, still use it fro my primary work) as my "canvas" and previous cassettes, and later, CDs as "prints" that were made from my "originals". :-) I've been on the stage before but it was never the "driving force" for what I do. But, I DO get thrilled and happily blown away whenever I get to experience some REALLY talented and killer artists up there knocking everyones' socks off! Give me THAT any day! (or night!) The sample clips provided by CDB are only about 30 seconds long and do not do much justice for the songs since most of them are quite long (and some are REAL long!) and most of them also evolve and have changes etc. One piece is actually a "suite" in 4 parts and each part is quite different from the other 3. Also, today at least, it seemed like some of the sound samples on CDB were a little "buggy"? I had to turn on / turn off / turn on again most them to get them to play. Hopefully that was just a fluke with my browser and / or home connection today? (Or....?) CDB confirmed that from their end, the samples played as they should, so I guess it had something to do w/ my system and / or connection? I hope that was the only reason why. Oh well. CD Baby is still a pretty deal anyway for indy and obscure musicians, "non-musicians", and other renegades, IMO. Nice folks too at CBD, which is also a big plus. I've been with CDB for almost 10 years now and have had zero complaints whatsoever. (Even MORE spam!) Also, this SKULT project is polar-opposite different from my 2 previous ELEMENTAL releases: "Lux Aeternae" and "Thee Divine Imagination", both of which are also available from CDB and also as physical products as well! There's another 'Elemental' listed on CDB but I am the ORIGINAL ELEMENTAL and have used that name for well over 15 years now. Accept no substitutions! :-) Cheers! Rev. Fever Portland,OR http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever --Apple-Mail-1--829171097 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Greetings kindly = LDers,

Please excuse this intrusion, but I wish to = announce the release of my latest project which is = SKULT-Hypnofinger.
( I can already hear the sounds of corks popping = from champagne bottles all over the world! :-) = )

Credits also given to Jacob Hall = (Portland,OR) for masterful and painstaking engineering and the = "infamous" Earwig (Seattle) for the brilliant and yet insane = artwork!

(Note: Earwig also did the front cover = art for the first Mr Bungle album ages ago, if anyone remembers that = one? Jake has engineered and / co-engineered = albums 
for Built To Spill, Wolf Parade, and an OM 7" on = Subpop, and other releases)

Downloads only for = now. (full album or individual tunes) Hopefully, actual physical = products will be available a little later. That is at least part of = Thee Grand Plan....

The album has sprinklings = of loopage in various parts all through out much of it, although = much of the loopage is buried over and / or obscured a bit by other = sounds 
and textures etc. But, there is at least one = piece where the loopage is quite prevalent and = upfront.


The music here can possibly be labeled as = 'experimental' or 'electronic' or 'ambient' or 'industrial' or = 'soundscapes' or 'sound paintings' or whatever?
Or, it could = also just be called  plain ol'  'weird and 'unusual'. =  That would certainly fit, as well!   Definitely not what is = considered 'normal' music over all,
whatever that is also = supposed to mean anymore? Maybe it's not "real" music at all!? (snicker) =  I've always considered myself to be a "sound painter" more = than 
anything else and have viewed my instruments as my = "pallet" and recording tape (yup, still use it fro my primary = work) as my "canvas" and previous cassettes,
and later, = CDs as "prints" that were made from my "originals". :-)  I've been = on the stage before but it was never the "driving force" for what I = do. But, I DO get thrilled and 
happily blown away = whenever I get to experience some REALLY talented and killer = artists up there knocking everyones' socks off!  Give me THAT any = day! (or night!)

The sample clips provided by = CDB are only about 30 seconds long and do not do much justice for the = songs since most of them are quite long (and some are REAL = long!) 
and most of them also evolve and have changes = etc. One piece is actually a "suite" in 4 parts and each part is = quite different from the other = 3. 

Also, today at least, it seemed like = some of the sound samples on CDB were a little "buggy"?  I had = to turn on / turn off / turn on again most them  to get them to = play. 
Hopefully that was just a fluke with my browser = and / or home connection today?  (Or....?)  CDB confirmed = that from their end, the samples played as they should, so = I 
guess it had something to do w/ my system and / or = connection? I hope that was the only reason = why.

Oh well. CD Baby is still a pretty deal = anyway for indy and obscure musicians, "non-musicians", and other = renegades, IMO.  
Nice folks too at CBD, which is also a = big plus. I've been with CDB for almost 10 years now and have had zero = complaints whatsoever.

(Even MORE = spam!) 
Also, this SKULT project is polar-opposite = different from my 2 previous ELEMENTAL releases: "Lux Aeternae" and = "Thee Divine Imagination", both of which are 
also = available  from CDB and also as physical products as well! There's = another 'Elemental' listed on CDB but I am the ORIGINAL ELEMENTAL = and have used that name 
for well over 15 years now. = Accept no substitutions! :-) 

Rev. Fever
Portland,OR
= --Apple-Mail-1--829171097-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 03:08:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC71C1839EB; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zsFYkkNIkN5Uf7BF2QJ6t7t+ViFWs/lQPzhLcQphBbY=; b=DJlOXwGzj0VwtTEGFnEGOvMAcjMRWYiWlJ1OPKj+m8IdPHLW7LAgkzp3rINCeqEQJB R4TxZMN7JxvLkNlb9xqnSNYVruX2/5n8KS4+oJSoDBKTIDXcIRy7yLYdRPrYprmMUkkQ h8ZOzdZzoO/3DXVEu0GnBOEpcO7aU3h0MmWyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uWOzKQQgnjiIEurFEJ39Yc2VsWw8hyNqNKPC1KZc2sIUpkWm9JG5ZmLjS0PvEwIWuT fEAuqN1xDReq8M1WXOmqCK6kNnlB2Bub1REyZCMdFdlEZL3Wap9zBTYPfimaYJwVixCc 7mi9Ou9GGSSIK39dew5GvMmPkpPwEZUz3547E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:08:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Hey everyone.... From: Jason Finnern To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bef92815ea804a5cb954a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:08:33 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bef92815ea804a5cb954a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just wanted to share a new video,,,This one is much better hopefully...I'm not talking in it...lol Hope you like it Thanks, Jason http://www.youtube.com/user/jasonfinnern?feature=mhee --0015174bef92815ea804a5cb954a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0015174bef92815ea804a5cb954a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 04:28:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F560184126; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 04:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: portalooper Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:27:58 -0500 Message-ID: <001201cc2bdd$c73dbaa0$55b92fe0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CC2BB3.DE689D00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQLY7p5x+oSmXuBJ/LyH3TVbQzp3hgJupu6rkpJeh8A= Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 04:28:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CC2BB3.DE689D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff, Thanks for the set-up ideas for gigging in a tight space. I like it! Mike From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:55 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: portalooper Hey Mike, When I am tight for space I will feed my M9 into my DD 20 for an amazingly versatile setup. I could get by with just the M9 easily and you have all of the effects in it to use before or after the looper! It has all of your preferences covered. best, Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CC2BB3.DE689D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jeff,

Thanks for the set-up  ideas for gigging in a tight space.  = I like it!

 

Mike

 

From:= = Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June = 15, 2011 8:55 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: = portalooper

 

Hey Mike,

When I am tight for = space I will feed my M9 into my DD 20 for an amazingly versatile setup. =

I could get by with just the M9 easily and you have all of the = effects in it to use before or after the looper! It has all of your = preferences covered.

best,

Jeff

 

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CC2BB3.DE689D00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 05:38:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0038183A01; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=60p+kQG5IuMjEF+4GNTM1YUprVS/WdsSn6Fza9T1D8I=; b=udOGb+K7gufoNL6YAgGJXyZV68QeN0G65pa/7Oey91DZ0WL9RWSBS2gXhSarIo8dhJ 4TOm69FS0jqKyyy8QaMr8Gdd1kexOjlluGAcKBWjua8SPk1Wa8ON5ADDNcaMTwF1zAWd 09nnAcK8oyf6QBNVN9hHhCK7d0ZLfPw4Zw0bg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RLicR5OciTUNcEwgP+fW8u/T8Vy2xDqC9l2d3rUe0RuRygJkxhBPKbi9Qu2TO2brmX UekF+j7SSbQVYj0e5L4W8kZGpaPyawlQJKLijM6LvOfqZBCie3QH0KU9ttfcsZ/nYU1v HzHz0peqTeJ8BkD6pjN57665dZGcxAxam/7Ts= References: <874462.22052.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <874462.22052.qm@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:38:45 +0200 Message-ID: <2685511349861160465@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Yeah.. Jah Wobble... Not world renown??? My favorite bass player!!! M Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 15 Jun 2011, at 23:42, bill bigrig wrote: > Howdy, > > Yes, I am aware of that. Not too long back there was an article in a maga= zine with him and his rack. He explained the whole thing. It is a lot of ge= ar, which, of course, makes a lot of different sounds. > > I have a cassette from sometime back in the late 80s, early 90s that he d= id with Holger Czukay,(?), and another musician that I can't remember, othe= r than he was not world rnowned. A very good album in the tradition of Eno/= Byrne, but different styles of course. Rather obscure but good listening. S= orta like the Fripp/Summers albums. > Rig > > --- On Wed, 6/15/11, thetoyroom@charter.net wrot= e: > >> From: thetoyroom@charter.net >> Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 9:17 AM >>> Yes, the Edge in my opinion, >> truly makes >>> some amazing textures with just a guitar and an >> echo. >> >> hahaha! true, true... >> but have you seen that boys' rig? >> uh.... >> there's quite a bit more than just a guitar and an echo >> happening! >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 09:02:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B244218411F; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mRU6D6ummUMJkSmwaJ7NdB7i7Jm1icY3Zm0uos7kERU=; b=DzIz+OoTUn8kBk9SottPaYKWTvQ/lpIoRmpAfpNWp7tpWwuSzwhQUsqhnDt2yduObv t0jtVk3cz8xJBw4nR01QAo/FNWaj1v1donGdqrfke+iIxKMsN7n+vAPWJ2hJc+VwpsXo W8U6S9FY6u9WujS97BOH6ail47HhVQaBWa/YI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A/3+D5ws9zyuc//b9yeTNnUyO/eTXvUq/btZki1UvKUvNDuURpeVfA3u6I9ulZSsaF 9wwzTEc/oq3NqJ+ZWIXAMtGvd1C2++VYm2RQfW+q8deGRuPyCcHMEd1cLfAOb6i3C0QI YsdnEZBxxQMf40z3nWXupVph+TSQMcXh/kpQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <53B7C24666AD408D86210CD214FE34DB@HAL> References: <53B7C24666AD408D86210CD214FE34DB@HAL> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:02:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: All this U2 (and Eno) talk... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_uVK0B.A.GWB.eac-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Thank you, that was a great article! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Hoby Ebert wrote: > =E2=80=A6made me think of this article. > > > > http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/04/25/110425fa_fact_bilger > > > > =E2=80=9COur own=E2=80=9D Mr. Eno figures quite prominently in the latter= half of the > article and he tells a great (at least I thought so) story about Larry > Mullen Jr. > > > > Here=E2=80=99s a very brief snippet: > > > > The idea of studying drummers had come from Brian Eno, the composer, reco= rd > producer, and former member of the band Roxy Music. Over the years, Eno h= ad > worked with U2, David Byrne, David Bowie, and some of the world=E2=80=99s= most > rhythmically gifted musicians. He owned a studio a few blocks away, in a > converted stable on a cobblestoned cul-de-sac, and had sent an e-mail > inviting a number of players to participate in Eagleman=E2=80=99s study. = =E2=80=9CThe > question is: do drummers have different brains from the rest of us?=E2=80= =9D Eno > said. =E2=80=9CEveryone who has ever worked in a band is sure that they d= o.=E2=80=9D > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 13:39:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 493BD184032; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vT9vkN3vVXssH3Ov7r/wQUs/sfIFjNPEFFf4aeKIi4A= c=1 sm=1 a=U8ks1vV3bQUA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=27ukTT200HSIl_F5LH8A:9 a=HQjxFvUtdugA31FTGvYA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <6DD061FC-92CD-448B-8252-60AEF6DDF0B0@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Semi OT: Unabashed album release spam Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:39:32 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Rev, All samples played just fine for me in my browser. And I have to admit, your music is "different." It is sort of like music heard in a dream of an old spooky carnival sideshow arcade, while having fallen asleep in some other odd public place (with other sounds going on), someplace like a laundromat or something. Just from the 30-second snippets, it draws on the memory . . . and at the same time elludes and defies it too. It intrigues me . . . perhaps enough to buy it . . . but it also unsettles me too. It would make a good soundtrack for a creepy movie. Hope you're having fun up there in Portland. Ted On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Revfever wrote: > Also, today at least, it seemed like some of the sound samples on > CDB were a little "buggy"? I had to turn on / turn off / turn on > again most them to get them to play. Hopefully that was just a > fluke with my browser and / or home connection today? (Or....?) > CDB confirmed that from their end, the samples played as they > should, so I > guess it had something to do w/ my system and / or connection? I > hope that was the only reason why. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 15:00:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52363184033; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9714c864-2d9b-435a-bfa3-10a7c43aa248_" X-Originating-IP: [86.141.148.15] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: long delay for mac Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:00:47 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2011 15:00:48.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CEAC020:01CC2C36] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:00:48 +0000 (UTC) --_9714c864-2d9b-435a-bfa3-10a7c43aa248_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys=2C=20 I've just gravitated over to a mac system=2C (ARGGHHHH!) since I seem to be= getting more stable results and very low latencies with it.Unfortunately= =2C I have to leave many wonderful effects behind me. I can't for the life = of me find a long=2C stereo syncable delay plugin. The choice of plugins se= ems minuscule compared to windows or am I just looking in the wrong places?= Any ideas? peace G = --_9714c864-2d9b-435a-bfa3-10a7c43aa248_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey guys=2C =3B
I've just gravitated over to a mac system=2C (ARGGHHHH!) s= ince I seem to be getting more stable results and very low latencies with i= t.
Unfortunately=2C I have to leave many wonderful effects behind= me. =3B
I can't for the life of me find a long=2C stereo syn= cable delay plugin. The choice of plugins seems minuscule compared to windo= ws or am I just looking in the wrong places?
Any ideas?

peace

G
= --_9714c864-2d9b-435a-bfa3-10a7c43aa248_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 15:19:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 061B6183C38; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=NONHRB0m67nA/9AFKU6y+ZNNFyhoG3hpC0qMsGND2uU=; b=fDTFZ/0S5qhEZeuoc8TvJlEo+XVNTGJedqFNxpbpFYDNdCOInCWakphIjDdpq9vGQb iE6LM+S80WG9N+xyqjx06eohp4WOXVc34yu0/+jXvFzmX8VMRBxYJJb2NlC/ieGqnZ9T qsyAzP4aSO13L/WmzGpWo/zyQ95u7P2BCeE+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=dgHQvWssgBgK69RcuzAqPr3b5w1SDR8BSRp1RoKWAl/WdwzXxqVP9Xqcrk7FP0yqaY a/obJQ9Z2koR2MI5xRhOC+++KWg60E8xoIygsxhtd6CG0d5feVUlN3D4ZrrgH6NSgWYM WHnV+FhB1UXWaZ2DMf/fagVPVTO1k0sbAxsCI= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--782093735 Subject: Re: long delay for mac Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:19:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <630A204B-6EFC-4AFB-A3BB-621B2DC794DD@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <9Z6LOC.A.BT.X8h-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:19:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--782093735 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Soundtoys - Echoboy (iLok) Expert Sleepers - Augustus Loop Both of those can sync to the DAW's tempo and are in stereo On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hey guys,=20 > I've just gravitated over to a mac system, (ARGGHHHH!) since I seem to = be getting more stable results and very low latencies with it. > Unfortunately, I have to leave many wonderful effects behind me.=20 > I can't for the life of me find a long, stereo syncable delay plugin. = The choice of plugins seems minuscule compared to windows or am I just = looking in the wrong places? > Any ideas? >=20 > peace >=20 > G -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-7--782093735 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Soundtoys - Echoboy (iLok)
Expert Sleepers - = Augustus Loop

Both of those can sync to the = DAW's tempo and are in stereo
On Jun 16, 2011, at = 11:00 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

Hey guys, 
I've just = gravitated over to a mac system, (ARGGHHHH!) since I seem to be getting = more stable results and very low latencies with = it.
Unfortunately, I have to leave many wonderful effects = behind me. 
I can't for the life of me find a long, = stereo syncable delay plugin. The choice of plugins seems minuscule = compared to windows or am I just looking in the wrong = places?
Any = ideas?

peace

G

toddbass.com
twitter: = gtodd876

= --Apple-Mail-7--782093735-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 15:28:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51DB5183CDA; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9B67KbDNy53XqyMcadsz/cpy/nH6s3F3H/kpIS+7Reg=; b=HFvbB5YaH4jPwnjM3k+RgqxU8MNwEr+XIVsT4xD4AAx29ZJVexqeFwf7L05zt6J+7d jD9iC+YYPz7ON9SeCoCXFp3ORLTgE9H8isYIeMaXBwFmAuHOKNP4v0JjSM0uGx+dJ886 96VkhGfS6nAhBMxAVsUPF1xt4hT2k4EqhbjRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=opeW9KEs4p6ra7YtrRCudqV35Fndc5avEFMoYgW11UvniBXiVUTSG4mdL+SeOdkTPl 11zmbo81tXkfv9U5Sq50w9vxtkRJai4viIjC5+wDL1FFaXIvNhX6sY2XmnBvHAVj5+kB AXwfZvJM/SgbFbmZoe5OA3fZFogLQKIsBslh0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:28:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bPgxtziCDPsM_Itg4_Cs2QQug-4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015177411a867586704a5d5ebaf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:28:23 +0000 (UTC) --0015177411a867586704a5d5ebaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ha! this is awesome! On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote= : > Loving this!! > > > daniel > On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Steve Uccello wrote: > > > Hi Loopers! > > > > Just wanted to share a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's 'Atalant= a > Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document in history > including 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be enjoyed > simultaneously. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, medieval > flavor, and I went for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' interpretatio= n. > > > > For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty > Looperlative 1. > > > > I basically did a live looping approach in my home studio, layering the > fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the LP-1 to a lapto= p > as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or editing. It = was > awesome to be able to record with such a high sound quality all at the to= uch > of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 voiced =91BASS CHOIR=92 co= mprised > of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC FRETTED BASS, and ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS= . > > > > 'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is set to > release this in December. Our intention is to create a fine book that > includes a CD along with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=92s plan= ning > to create 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the original 5= 0. > > > > After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. > Though the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended by Maier,= I > hope that sharing the music might be of interest to any interested in mus= ic > with alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or fine books. Here is a l= ink > to all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud', > > > > http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets > > > > Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello > > > > --0015177411a867586704a5d5ebaf Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ha! this is awesome!

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011= at 7:31 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Loving this!!


daniel
On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Steve= Uccello wrote:

> Hi Loopers!
>
> Just wanted to share a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's= 'Atalanta Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document= in history including 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be e= njoyed simultaneously. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, medieva= l flavor, and I went for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' inter= pretation.
>
> For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty Loop= erlative 1.
>
> I basically did a live looping approach in my home studio, layering th= e fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the LP-1 to a lapto= p as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or editing. =A0I= t was awesome to be able to record with such a high sound quality all at th= e touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 voiced =91BASS CHOIR= =92 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC FRETTED BASS, and ELECTRIC FR= ETTLESS BASS.
>
> 'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is = set to release this in December. Our intention is to create a fine book tha= t includes a CD along with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=92s plan= ning to create 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the origina= l 50.
>
> After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. Th= ough the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended by Maier, I h= ope that sharing the music might be of interest to any interested in music = with alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or fine books. =A0Here is a l= ink to all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud',
>
> http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets
>
> Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello
>


--0015177411a867586704a5d5ebaf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 15:37:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8CF9183DB7; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 935605.71054.bm@omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308238591; bh=ajyJMhVGXTcewJX6dkTjPOt1gS3ODxoJtW6CgzpUeuY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a277E4T3brOey0A8JPWxU0XxuGA10cPX9l8O+CYfvXFzA/0xGVGID6KXy4ibhZLNo75WDi/c8aTmnKwXch3XcDJEHmW5MHAidTmq2W3gBMDQqOWSU9KLooLDi55X+l4i+wftF/hBAV2DI60C1Me4Bi1wqZj8+K/Nt8dNhdf02u0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zizpBvwlULl017xOjZiIAUQeL/zm4jusyPhPiu7kGejFd3Z+GXDH8mMMtPsoOFxLlKxx3r461UfyfVobbjIwgOcHEpBHvyU8pZqDvjDkOIvgH8yrIw7mdGQLW16KgdDmorMXKlNEs0EtxUk8/zgM2aByu0/VOyknHhiiLAuwoGY=; Message-ID: <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: K4N8xi8VM1kZaiiXFfOYfPZR_TOIofQkTnd1mdgSwYtyv3Z U1Qaq29H3G0usqeIXLmScV1.m3LK9._s4iu3kw35yyr7IPmPkjZNv6nIch58 XSNsPoGvf99.JV8tTlZeAu0wUebTyV9S48ARiJYc1m5zn0IaLCjXIbUVMdNb R50qdZ04yMVAtLKiMepwqqx96J.YR3qPY61q0u6.ZfXsW9O_eNwqtWgbH7dn EaMaTTJxWGJYiLmoe7nRBe0rzLQkKlyiaz1763bQ7YgCBmdBegW.9gG8nEao V4Brmz5c3nXERd0OqXHZOYfpPA.XHee5vQfX2nyOxdQXGGIeuju32yXyyR_O zRbALHxJHrbvd2kZ1xYbVEIbVoxMbojptEtKxCkUaYJhbqNJiCcbUqA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:36:31 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: LP1 tech question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-121293658-1308238591=:65840" Resent-Message-ID: <3RZ2HD.A.dx.sMi-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:37:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-121293658-1308238591=:65840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions? Antony Hequet --0-121293658-1308238591=:65840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?

Antony Hequet
--0-121293658-1308238591=:65840-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 15:41:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 140C4183E41; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 705095.36301.bm@omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308238872; bh=EUA1qPndt2rXgwdumVnEUkG64p0QEvp/0G9MZKOoUcI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GAtjF4tYSipTlFIFhNiQdwBUhhIhBr4DBASNRbj/VhTrWYOBl5a2O7Nat/itCU9qVauFX7Ivb8+3OVjlPi6dDr/jjcjiFt/meAZxT8LRDunULI7IrlWfhMigVtQjmGOKqs2XIrs63qP8JTbwSYMPemZNGf9UbmlQ8hkepkcN0qk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Fv+6yF5JKWg2L1RvR4gPCzHjc6ArwgDPsUIQ0Q9gQLO5Ttk79gWruELtfjLhBvOLcqX+1derMNVWpK9tIgyyWPX3r6uGoSpH183qRAGt93HNWtKwPhoGTVU/uQEootSuFflFPlxFkUbp3XwIQmNXE0r3S8rFotM6uKS4iHybFUs=; Message-ID: <122140.27365.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1Y3_PNwVM1n5wizUWSkfkk30FPjIMYWYPievGRcgdtgx5eL RIFZVtu6aIK8u4tmwO2UnFh4qxrGMfO1LVFOX35ijtVW2jqET89clbKV37Md jZV9Uc5dT6D0JKoq4RYmvfX27eF.wVPjeHfwHilVrwPWgA8gUf5bc07CVhUd 5bCjtgD2WDWw2mFSWzMP1.5Gus.1U2DqeTMm2kDOIj_JO4JPLF5pOwLeCll5 baUWMqQ.OW.ARJh.u4bmsrp5p7SFc_HpEAgjbZjol.XigW6lMl3wLp9WcFy1 1iesW2.IxYViplhZcSVOBhaUIzpSwNeiJMi8JgdEaITVC_JkcPyCPhCwQgiU HQ4G_TSdK_eu4IuAYJLhYtygkROcQER_TP1NasbgCZBLCYtuw3t_f9sk.0z7 xmV0mVSv8mj6_P79pO3c4jlrjTWt5d738vtVNO5v5BvMeWjBS7xEftU8OU4o 2h6YeAz96wrRwv8hG9pLWh01cBKDjlkjp7nqFRqZdwQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:41:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <13363C5F-65F3-4215-95C1-989A2CA00A67@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2002593534-1308238872=:27365" Resent-Message-ID: <9OHtDC.A.L9.ZQi-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:41:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-2002593534-1308238872=:27365 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone seen that vid of Kenny G doing an improv of Hendrix's version of= the Star Spangled Banner? --- On Wed, 6/15/11, Daniel Thomas wrote: From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "bill bigrig" Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 4:54 PM > "It Might Get Loud" > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dm4EvZtsXz7w_ I became an Edge fan on the back of It Might Get Loud.=A0 Its inspiring.=20 And, if you have not seen Michael J's "This is it" it is really worth any m= usicians time to absorb this amazing rehearsal footage.=A0 What a band!=A0= =20 I presume some young bucks is saying to themselves right now.... "Michael J= ackson?!!=A0=A0=A0But, he really, really, Sucks!!"=A0=20 :) Daniel=20 On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, bill bigrig wrote: >> Yes, the Edge in my opinion, truly makes >>=A0 some amazing textures with just a guitar and an echo. >> Rig >>=20 > Yes, and if you have had the pleasure to see the love letter to the elect= ric guitar that he, Jimmy Page and Jack White > are in....... >=20 > "It Might Get Loud" > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dm4EvZtsXz7w_ >=20 > ...........it is really endearing to see how entirely humble he is about = what he does and the breaks he got by answering > an ad for a guitarist at his local high school. >=20 > At one point he takes this ridiculously massive sound that he has going w= ith tons of effects and turns them all > off for you to see who the little man behind the curtain truly is.=A0=A0= =A0He's just strumming the most prosaic chord progression. > It takes great humility to let the public see behind the smoke and mirror= s the way he did in that movie. >=20 > I have much greater respect for him as a musician and a human being after= watching this moving movie. >=20 > I can't more highly recommend it.=A0=A0=A0(also, paranthetically,=A0 Jack= White, who I am not a particular fan of,=A0 comes > off as a genius musician in this movie.=A0=A0=A0I just recently saw him p= lay drums in the Dead Weather...........he was > amazing on drums and then took a killer guitar solo.....I'm becoming a fa= n now). >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 --0-2002593534-1308238872=:27365 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone seen that vid of Kenny G doing an = improv of Hendrix's version of the Star Spangled Banner?

--- On W= ed, 6/15/11, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:<= BR>

From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>=
Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone
To: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: "bill bigrig" <billbigrig@yahoo.c= om>
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 4:54 PM

> "It Might Get Loud"
> _http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3Dm4EvZtsXz7w_
I became an Edge fan on the back of It Mi= ght Get Loud.  Its inspiring.

And, if you have not seen Michae= l J's "This is it" it is really worth any musicians time to absorb this ama= zing rehearsal footage.  What a band! 
I presume some young b= ucks is saying to themselves right now.... "Michael Jackson?!!  &= nbsp;But, he really, really, Sucks!!" 
:)

Daniel
On Jun= 15, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, = bill bigrig wrote:
>> Yes, the Edge in my opinion, truly makes
= >>  some amazing textures with just a guitar and an echo.
>= ;> Rig
>>
> Yes, and if you have had the pleasure to see= the love letter to the electric guitar that he, Jimmy Page and Jack White
> are in.......
>
> "It Might Get Loud"
> _= h= ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dm4EvZtsXz7w_
>
> .........= ..it is really endearing to see how entirely humble he is about what he doe= s and the breaks he got by answering
> an ad for a guitarist at his l= ocal high school.
>
> At one point he takes this ridiculously = massive sound that he has going with tons of effects and turns them all
= > off for you to see who the little man behind the curtain truly is.&nbs= p;  He's just strumming the most prosaic chord progression.
&g= t; It takes great humility to let the public see behind the smoke and mirro= rs the way he did in that movie.
>
> I have much greater respe= ct for him as a musician and a human being after watching this moving movie= .
>
> I can't more highly recommend it.   (also= , paranthetically,  Jack White, who I am not a particular fan of, = comes
> off as a genius musician in this movie.   I j= ust recently saw him play drums in the Dead Weather...........he was
>= ; amazing on drums and then took a killer guitar solo.....I'm becoming a fa= n now).
>
> Rick Walker
>

--0-2002593534-1308238872=:27365-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 15:48:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84B0B183EA9; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 624564428/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYCANMk+k1YbR+I/2dsb2JhbAAMRpdpMthqhicElieEUoZX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,376,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="624564428" Message-ID: <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:48:27 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:48:18 +0000 (UTC) First suggestion would be give full details about how you're connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward there's no disadvantage to this. andy antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I > used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything > went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the > Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. > Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions? > > Antony Hequet From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 15:54:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA20D183F3B; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:54:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i5OiY+r3QDJZpr+W44Ns1C19CVM+IFckcY1F0b8RjHk=; b=QkUAinJIBL6PkfwYqYIyP6W76+6gmbk4s2H6WSPiuiGKFfRBTtmnM8tmog9V0Pa6xr hBeBeVXp++tBbeuo3PVv3kd0mZGocmusloeFkKWwn3yemBhLbIuAyDKsjPOGDlD1ta57 KS8PefBXacmRwNb/mYNJSDG6b/k8WVBt5kf7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KCQYFbSyk5BUI0MTKiRt8G8TnPeZ3jXu/5uED1zVb8SUNF4nVlfSC2zu0pzIIVB/0X z/TlyOVBqYps537pfzmGtYEQL5/HjPE+BKII/BBzo+JfYOd+wQbhU4IORiiRPfzkD8R3 dbNlSbJpFKoJLqmNp6ea0pjPQbajFghAdAKvc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6DD061FC-92CD-448B-8252-60AEF6DDF0B0@charter.net> References: <6DD061FC-92CD-448B-8252-60AEF6DDF0B0@charter.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:54:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Semi OT: Unabashed album release spam From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9wsOJD.A.XbB.qci-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:54:18 +0000 (UTC) > On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Revfever wrote: > I enjoy the "annoyingness" of your music. Same twisted taste that has me endure horror movies in order to check out the music ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:01:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DC3F183F87; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 177807.80851.bm@omp1040.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308240109; bh=JVaSRTmwZC+tICEMPJojrXJZykRNg1naXLx1QQs4tmk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yU5OHufB5rQBo319VVYDq+oRkMVLypf3MUk1hmuADeSGRKH3d1QLQ5lFsSJEzTZhoww0jjZF98PmmLN53WKW4UAbhFKTWCni/EfbmuvE3IUtvAOh3LVY0lOEswDleOCEBjEGdYUIanfh7BXIn1aZRsmq34EkcRZdWk5ufOh0/L4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6q3OUUDgYJhKGr+u6yEeORJ7aRZRn0dRoDq450OxC+ccxDjjntYMpI1Cz3Js42Q7GVFWVD3qj7BPqRjhFHtv/Mkz3wcVmsPkbcrTN8dKLi9QYRlQEYziCzFGhsNQKPfZM1NnXlemW+BARTXL0sWoUrk4QFEAOYAzwm5v401AAR8=; Message-ID: <617284.20429.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HeeusdoVM1mCzNB9pqBueOGDbF0uVn778dkKkdt5XPDBQl3 iJOSagk27EG9PncjStcfP7sBrUsGDDO_wWQ7K099qrty0tezgIj6ntAV_wfu 3rloySANrl0eCb8PB9COyJHcEAVMmDUWfnPw0DQQuRiBYmDc1X0NY5clnWNK _LkSkqmmU7UNw5Z7fzHlg.6n.rghVV9X9q82SMIikl4kG1Oi0zBr_4jn_XbW PnJanvoLRjGi6tYROCkmQl.O1TEVtbMBzewB6SgpNpJLAI9Yu23cc3AHhzXg ARvK.Qgp6D4Fq25NLolWE5Y8F7uoGfN72SuAfkxS7nkHKo6DU0btOkVJ49EP jXj.YuVx84mj1Ho8XKTqdxGNnDWY9VvQocupxZHGqdTTb4UtAxoWg4b5bZKa IkuAy89rP2tZMljxuT.DLzaAhbO3R55F_.iGr7of1pJddVDyfRsenhnE5_5A EAhJcWy0O1qgmGjPfKHjKS8urydkopDKUBbiJ3kCk_pgEHXJX1ZMqtoZ6z6t TrBZlL4MgSIwJOeYu0rhSTUWauQEPS20QG117692VcbYln1DZ8zIWWw5sa9b 6mwk2Q0l7RON_7iRYejl_YveJzz.vuIJ4y3UeRNWvIPiz_Ht9EgFgIiPtcSG etfzwvrhjzY.51djflltJHOCG X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:01:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone OT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-448035121-1308240109=:20429" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:01:50 +0000 (UTC) --0-448035121-1308240109=:20429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting logic: letting the corporations decide what you like per their = ability to mass market it. =A0 Well, too bad about jazz though. WDUQ, a public radio station in Pittsburgh= that played jazz daily for YEARS, was bought by some corporate entity who = then decided talk radio is the ticket and killed off the jazz broadcasts. I= would imagine that would affect the sales figures for some of the artists = presented there as well as the general awareness of jazz by public radio li= steners. =A0 It's not Lady Gaga's "message" (whatever THAT is-"I'm different" - yeah, ri= ght) that's manifesting itself in the worldwide public consciousness but so= me corporate marketing goobers idea of what to mass market to possible targ= et audiences - like gays, disenfranchised kids, et al.=20 =A0 Any mass marketing (i.e. brainwashing) is deleterious. Look at McDonalds. G= arbage food-but lots of folks like it (especially fat ones! :) What happene= d to local small eateries? They went the way of the buggy whip. Marketing, = marketing, marketing-corporate style! --- On Wed, 6/15/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: From: Kevin Cheli-Colando Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone OT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 7:09 PM Saying someone 'sucks' is pretty clearly a negative expression I'd think.=A0 Most people don't say it as a positive (which is odd if you think about it really). Diversity is always good. And I think Ted is the Decider this month (I joke) Kevin On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >> >> You know, I must be getting older because after having once shared >> this kind of opinionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or >> that didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its >> just a waste of energy. =A0Anyone who is out there trying to do >> something in public is worth respect imo. =A0Whether or not its any good >> or not. >> >> Negativity just doesn't have the kinds of return on living I need these >> days. > > > Just a thought, > but maybe it's a good thing that folk don't all like the same music. > > ...and who decides which opinion is negative? > > > andy > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --0-448035121-1308240109=:20429 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting logic: letting the corporati= ons decide what you like per their ability to mass market it.
 
Well, too bad about jazz though. WDUQ, a public radio station in Pitts= burgh that played jazz daily for YEARS, was bought by some corporate entity= who then decided talk radio is the ticket and killed off the jazz broadcas= ts. I would imagine that would affect the sales figures for some of the art= ists presented there as well as the general awareness of jazz by public rad= io listeners.
 
It's not Lady Gaga's "message" (whatever THAT is-"I'm different" - yea= h, right) that's manifesting itself in the worldwide public consciousness b= ut some corporate marketing goobers idea of what to mass market to possible= target audiences - like gays, disenfranchised kids, et al.
 
Any mass marketing (i.e. brainwashing) is deleterious. Look at McDonal= ds. Garbage food-but lots of folks like it (especially fat ones! :) What ha= ppened to local small eateries? They went the way of the buggy whip. Market= ing, marketing, marketing-corporate style!

--- On Wed, 6/15/11, K= evin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.co= m>
Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone OT
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, = 7:09 PM

Saying someone 'sucks' is pretty clearly a negative = expression I'd
think.  Most people don't say it as a positive (whic= h is odd if you
think about it really).

Diversity is always good.=

And I think Ted is the Decider this month
(I joke)

Kevin<= BR>
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>= Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>>
>> You know, I must be get= ting older because after having once shared
>> this kind of opinio= nating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or
>> that didn't = fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its
>> just = a waste of energy.  Anyone who is out there trying to do
>> s= omething in public is worth respect imo.  Whether or not its any good
>> or not.
>>
>> Negativity just doesn't h= ave the kinds of return on living I need these
>> days.
>>
> Just a thought,
> but maybe it's a good thing that folk= don't all like the same music.
>
> ...and who decides which op= inion is negative?
>
>
> andy
>
>
>
=


--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the bod= y and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cau= se of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vi= sion:  http://ww= w.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

--0-448035121-1308240109=:20429-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:04:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB772183F84; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9C8748CA-729D-4FCA-8D18-CFD13B593F63@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: LP1 tech question Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:04:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:04:38 +0000 (UTC) its possible that the balanced signal from your DM100 is hotter than than from your previous mixer. try turning down the send volumes feeding the looper and then use the LP-1 's master level to bring the volume back up on the back end. one question: is this an aux out designed to be an effects send or just an aux out for routing purposes? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:05:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18F2C183F85; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NYRohlwkIsfMo1p+vU+Zka5Nr1xbXgBTuDrV+t4QfkI=; b=QB8dwqGlWvsTOXU9Bb7UNtANJlPSfGvaCCqvaxm0uOFz7FFEQjRr6ZOeBdhG3OfMUj /4CitzMWdcR5TJa7IdMF6cJr/qmpJC3Zx8zQrApqbiozY7/f5AfQ4egX8yfV2Hw8MI+T RPGUdJ/1OP+CCfr7MMBh592BWDVyjghxkLfwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t6A9kFoN4mUq5daFZZ+ugiqUzCXfL+x24ePefqjEKWjjROHV92y2JM/36d2PW52rLV 0va8wNZOeWs28c3ChRLnD9j6+HfGQ9DU0JRzn0uV0NbjYBv8sh/0H7Z8PrraOqfVrXx9 B1+Aw9jolCDHTX4SeJnUtWqv+1dQ6KeTCO6CE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <617284.20429.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <617284.20429.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:05:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone OT From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307c9aa40d809204a5d66f4d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:05:12 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307c9aa40d809204a5d66f4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "Better to light a candle than curse the darkness" Kevin On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > Interesting logic: letting the corporations decide what you like per their > ability to mass market it. > > Well, too bad about jazz though. WDUQ, a public radio station in Pittsburgh > that played jazz daily for YEARS, was bought by some corporate entity who > then decided talk radio is the ticket and killed off the jazz broadcasts. I > would imagine that would affect the sales figures for some of the artists > presented there as well as the general awareness of jazz by public radio > listeners. > > It's not Lady Gaga's "message" (whatever THAT is-"I'm different" - yeah, > right) that's manifesting itself in the worldwide public consciousness but > some corporate marketing goobers idea of what to mass market to possible > target audiences - like gays, disenfranchised kids, et al. > > Any mass marketing (i.e. brainwashing) is deleterious. Look at McDonalds. > Garbage food-but lots of folks like it (especially fat ones! :) What > happened to local small eateries? They went the way of the buggy whip. > Marketing, marketing, marketing-corporate style! > > --- On *Wed, 6/15/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando * wrote: > > > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando > Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone OT > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 7:09 PM > > > Saying someone 'sucks' is pretty clearly a negative expression I'd > think. Most people don't say it as a positive (which is odd if you > think about it really). > > Diversity is always good. > > And I think Ted is the Decider this month > (I joke) > > Kevin > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, andy butler > > wrote: > > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> > >> You know, I must be getting older because after having once shared > >> this kind of opinionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or > >> that didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its > >> just a waste of energy. Anyone who is out there trying to do > >> something in public is worth respect imo. Whether or not its any good > >> or not. > >> > >> Negativity just doesn't have the kinds of return on living I need these > >> days. > > > > > > Just a thought, > > but maybe it's a good thing that folk don't all like the same music. > > > > ...and who decides which opinion is negative? > > > > > > andy > > > > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --20cf307c9aa40d809204a5d66f4d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Better to light a candle than curse the darkness"

Kevin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Paul Rich= ards <p= aulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
Inte= resting logic: letting the corporations decide what you like per their abil= ity to mass market it.
=A0
Well, too bad about jazz though. WDUQ, a public radio station in Pitts= burgh that played jazz daily for YEARS, was bought by some corporate entity= who then decided talk radio is the ticket and killed off the jazz broadcas= ts. I would imagine that would affect the sales figures for some of the art= ists presented there as well as the general awareness of jazz by public rad= io listeners.
=A0
It's not Lady Gaga's "message" (whatever THAT is-&qu= ot;I'm different" - yeah, right) that's manifesting itself in = the worldwide public consciousness but some corporate marketing goobers ide= a of what to mass market to possible target audiences - like gays, disenfra= nchised kids, et al.
=A0
Any mass marketing (i.e. brainwashing) is deleterious. Look at McDonal= ds. Garbage food-but lots of folks like it (especially fat ones! :) What ha= ppened to local small eateries? They went the way of the buggy whip. Market= ing, marketing, marketing-corporate style!

--- On Wed, 6/15/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> = wrote:

From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
Subject: = Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone OT
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011= , 7:09 PM


Saying someone 'sucks' is pretty clearly a negative expression= I'd
think.=A0 Most people don't say it as a positive (which is = odd if you
think about it really).

Diversity is always good.

And I think Ted is the Decider this month
(I joke)

Kevin
<= br>On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>>
>> You know, I must be= getting older because after having once shared
>> this kind of op= inionating about bands I didn't like (or approve of or
>> that= didn't fit my perceived social order), I've now decided that its >> just a waste of energy. =A0Anyone who is out there trying to do>> something in public is worth respect imo. =A0Whether or not its a= ny good
>> or not.
>>
>> Negativity just doesn'= ;t have the kinds of return on living I need these
>> days.
>= ;
>
> Just a thought,
> but maybe it's a good thing t= hat folk don't all like the same music.
>
> ...and who decides which opinion is negative?
>
><= br>> andy
>
>
>



--
Till now you ser= iously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is th= e primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
= Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

<= /div>


--
Till now you seriously considered you= rself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance wh= ich is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
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--20cf307c9aa40d809204a5d66f4d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:11:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B6C9183FA4; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 690785.19874.bm@omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308240659; bh=5/w79aV8cewzEmz5ImE9pAsnxBTfD5YcVcVgfxy+fnw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VWK/7JTMfdqKkdN1cbQRaINUUmRlU+iE3EL2VSDjDNav9Sq2lndACvYslFmY7FUqyBJR6qV+kddoZle8rO3ZWejIiFK3pHA384t9iKjg88+GD/QxlP8e6EfbAUa5dNYM1SbaoUQBEtzwHrrKhcmad6kj5S1RyA3lSylIhPhRZT8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RUygnw+axgO6vy/25yIr7aQtSblEiSNS25bnjFwVVCl3l3L9zHG8FR7ZSkMJXrGLa7s/nb7o4BJ6YoYKugfac10VMYJNWSZ2DTVGMw/SvsqU6YYRekUxMFyMjNkddSjD2Aav7ckprw96CYeRIqLW1rX7CAxSXfiHFrSHVfMHNwg=; Message-ID: <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: i_LeLNgVM1nUdeMw5JeJ2t6ZX94JK5CCm6bjTSAvwAievYi uneqpa7e310jeW1qGEk44BZo9PkPKQr4W_7Q3vgp0t_S6i9s7gGnPHAIFCe5 CBt9YgWsSogQVtbwY5kX3TIeoN2UtrifklA9FLDqKq2jqPy8a1LQCjE0qcR6 OCFc0_ZGWlxeEBEuh170ZOVFcSIILsItBwXqRPtYDaosvrbob4b.u9XQaCHg JorqnAtkvlHj4uf9GnuKGxTBdUtucMQxPXl6eGnBcK63s8FJTuGhhj.BKYAJ .1UZyKk4uE3SOXuCi_thjpAYQpSnDiUnHg.zryI5XcImBhd_Mx3bXAf.2eOX Spi_auPbK8yTKaH18e8yFpzvpaH6NQzKBqxYtksuFueS4NJgK4IaQAw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:10:59 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1488364716-1308240659=:26068" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:11:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-1488364716-1308240659=:26068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS? ANtony Hequet ________________________________ From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM Subject: Re: LP1 tech question First suggestion would be give full details about how you're connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward there's no disadvantage to this. andy antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to >take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I >am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either >too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any >suggestions? > > Antony Hequet --0-1488364716-1308240659=:26068 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

First suggestion would be give full details about how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet

--0-1488364716-1308240659=:26068-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:11:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EABEA183FA8; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=TixZyfKlXOpFVoGta1Cf+PwrtlzFzf+irNj/07wBhWE=; b=swsg+j9zBSrdChsfR3YwE0wprwZ2gT9+D1nBkyDTGLq+wdkg8Xx3kVfU/KFoqzb+Xn UKBKRSimmgS4RCtpJOE93idNOfOka47GvagzPEqyQQRG83p1M8NRxNh4tbnvKNYhwQLY I4ozA1Lx15efrAUatLvyrhRs1uDiDowS5Wm0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Jx/6rG/xIMR4wcphY3bFTyo2U+LjdqIOEhT3QdsX+rUMrcuTmYFyTVWIp0M0qXDpzV H1lAt+wbOMslw1Fmiq+XlA6Ma697NDgOiH0EAw5Jwukiglm/zP5pwS97YIm322hQXal/ N3Tx480rf+MyDHQoEwMhBkCFWTJ7uU/oy1wN8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:11:52 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <68C9613E-04D6-4197-B830-134F717543D2@gmail.com> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:11:55 +0000 (UTC) This is wonderful! What a project! Sounds great and I bet you walked = away from it with a wealth of knowledge from a compositional standpoint. > Hi Loopers!=20 >=20 > Just wanted to share a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's = 'Atalanta Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document in = history including 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be = enjoyed simultaneously. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, = medieval flavor, and I went for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' = interpretation. =20 >=20 > For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty = Looperlative 1. =20 >=20 > I basically did a live looping approach in my home studio, layering = the fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the LP-1 to a = laptop as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or = editing. It was awesome to be able to record with such a high sound = quality all at the touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 = voiced =91BASS CHOIR=92 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC = FRETTED BASS, and ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS. =20 >=20 > 'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is set to = release this in December. Our intention is to create a fine book that = includes a CD along with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=92s = planning to create 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the = original 50. =20 >=20 > After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. = Though the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended by = Maier, I hope that sharing the music might be of interest to any = interested in music with alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or = fine books. Here is a link to all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud',=20= >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets >=20 > Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:27:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2424183AA9; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:27:06 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Yes hit the all tracks button on the front panel, scroll the encoder knob to master lever and adjust accordingly, the output is usually set at -1, I'd increase that to 0 or higher. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:40:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 509A4183C05; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-16_08:2011-06-16,2011-06-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106160128 Subject: Re: LP1 tech question From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <9C8748CA-729D-4FCA-8D18-CFD13B593F63@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:35:29 -0700 Message-id: <44E8853E-921F-4E06-84B7-FB561AAC2CC9@mac.com> References: <9C8748CA-729D-4FCA-8D18-CFD13B593F63@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Sounds like an impedance matching problem. Many digital mixers let you switch the impedance on Aux busses. Check your DM1000 manual. Is the AUX buss outputing +4 ? If so, can you change it? Daniel On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:04 AM, William Walker wrote: > its possible that the balanced signal from your DM100 is hotter than than from your previous mixer. try turning down the send volumes feeding the looper and then use the LP-1 's master level to bring the volume back up on the back end. one question: is this an aux out designed to be an effects send or just an aux out for routing purposes? > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:40:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 502BF183C06; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: richard sales Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--777216250 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <48272448-3574-4212-8335-88399534EC58@glasswing.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:41:03 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:40:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19--777216250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anthony,=20 If you don't get an answer here I know someone who would know. Is that one o= f the bigger Yamaha mixers? If so, I have a friend (studio owner) who has a= few and has mastered all aspects of them. =20 Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:36 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I us= ed to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smoo= th. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The sig= nal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to w= ork it out... Any suggestions? >=20 > Antony Hequet --Apple-Mail-19--777216250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Anthony, 

If you don't get an answer here I know someone who would know.  Is tha= t one of the bigger Yamaha mixers?  If so, I have a friend (studio owne= r) who has a few and has mastered all aspects of them.  

Richard= Sales
Sent from my IPad


On Jun 16, 2011, at= 8:36 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:

= --Apple-Mail-19--777216250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:41:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED4F4183C20; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=OPR3HhDFdgAeEgSVzUeezUP5XatuFSPE/f4t178g3YdagduXmMypQLS93wNwRatr; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:41:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-903879985==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec799191c64ea40f4d16b643eaa23aa8ad0b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:41:52 +0000 (UTC) --============_-903879985==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The first thing I'd recommend is that you check the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000. If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option... >All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am >playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes >from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the >boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is >very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the >LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer >with unbalanced OUTPUTS? > >ANtony Hequet > > >From: andy butler >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM >Subject: Re: LP1 tech question > >First suggestion would be give full details about how you're >connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. > >The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to >go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost >the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. > >The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward >there's no disadvantage to this. > >andy > >antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 >>mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and >>everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the >>AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately >>distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions? >> >> Antony Hequet -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-903879985==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: LP1 tech question
The first thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

First suggestion would be give full details about how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet


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--============_-903879985==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:49:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB68183DA9; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=irG1Y+evp3XcqBuLTT77yia0kfVUlK5wgp1iJ6UQJtM=; b=T9c9tcYzeU7S3hd0tzZ0FiNhm/PHptFMSkl5R1MqWteSQ8uUCKd9/YWT93dW4PwrvQ tTbEwUd9EnFpo8nL191GtsNAQpV42JXOfrfjBBfEsRnuAiKYUcdDGEY2gGigYMKgqM1y JdH8bEisWcG0EL0y47nA25/Qmo9DS1TAiODAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=oLbu7dGu+f5/s5LXS+EYTqfa0gGUsqBxU+pAxqNPw2+QstoVBd9tjQmtbhJb+SbTHP eGestfutQX5ckYdHLvZR5lGEt1Q2xzIeZ7I8O5g7UVqD9nACZtBvzGvbewOi+O+csllw lINE6/Jwpie2JzyZPVFRPwT7baBVMw4V/nfWE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:49:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP1 tech question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4021eca9e1a04a5d70c56 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:49:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4021eca9e1a04a5d70c56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. sim On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > The first thing I'd recommend is that you check the signal levels using > the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected > on the DM1000. If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you > might need to trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 docs to see if > there is a line level option... > > All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am > playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from > DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries of > what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are > saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you > properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS? > > > ANtony Hequet > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* andy butler > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM > *Subject:* Re: LP1 tech question > > First suggestion would be give full details about how you're > connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. > > The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to > go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost > the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. > > The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward > there's no disadvantage to this. > > andy > > antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > > I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I > used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went > smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The > signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed > to work it out... Any suggestions? > > > > Antony Hequet > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --000e0cd4021eca9e1a04a5d70c56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in= and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.=A0

sim

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41= PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first thing I'd recommend is that you check=A0 the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000.=A0 If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.=A0 Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If =A0I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From: an= dy butler <a= kbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

First suggestion would be give full details about how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to<= br> go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@ya= hoo.com wrote:
> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet


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--000e0cd4021eca9e1a04a5d70c56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:52:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 463F2183DC0; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 624592638/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYCAFg0+k1YbR+I/2dsb2JhbAAMRpdpMpgxwHWGJwSWJ4RShlc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,376,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="624592638" Message-ID: <4DFA34D0.6030302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:52:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-QLq4C.A.KZH.WTj-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:52:38 +0000 (UTC) antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am > playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from > DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries > of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. yup, that's kind of normal > You > are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. yes >Am I reading > you properly? yessir If the mixer input you're using doesn't have enough gain then maybe one of the other inputs does. > Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS? I don't think so. I'm afraid I'm going to go against what Bill says in this case. Raising the LP1's output level by the menu will cause distortion within the LP1. I'd actually suggest checking it, and make sure it *is* on -1. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 16:53:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 637D3183936; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iLRMVw7LG/ZeaePagYQCOg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-16_08:2011-06-16,2011-06-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106160130 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:52:46 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-id: <262B2C8B-AFA0-4635-B8FA-596C913CC667@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <_3xn-D.A.PhH.gUj-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:53:52 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_iLRMVw7LG/ZeaePagYQCOg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. True that... unless the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX output buss. (Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 would have this feature-- its more common to large scale digital mixers) A less than attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion adaptor on the send into LP-1 D > if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. > > sim > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > The first thing I'd recommend is that you check the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000. If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option... > >> All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS? >> >> ANtony Hequet >> >> From: andy butler >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM >> Subject: Re: LP1 tech question >> >> First suggestion would be give full details about how you're >> connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. >> >> The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to >> go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost >> the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. >> >> The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward >> there's no disadvantage to this. >> >> andy >> >> antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >> > I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions? >> > >> > Antony Hequet > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --Boundary_(ID_iLRMVw7LG/ZeaePagYQCOg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable if the aux sends and returns are = balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because = it has unbalanced ins and = outs. 

True that... unless = the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX output buss.  (Or = conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that = LP1 would have this feature-- its more common to large scale digital = mixers)

A less than attractive alternative = would be impedance line conversion adaptor on the send into = LP-1


D

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you = will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced = ins and outs. 

sim

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky = <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From: = andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

First suggestion would be give full details about how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet


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= --Boundary_(ID_iLRMVw7LG/ZeaePagYQCOg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 17:00:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 769F3183EE9; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-16_08:2011-06-16,2011-06-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106160131 Subject: Re: LP1 tech question From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:37:26 -0700 Message-id: <0D1CDD69-3973-4805-8976-5272FF36C456@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Bill speaks the truth.. provided that your impedance is not mismatched. Check the DM 1000 manual to determine output impedance on the Aux buss. Is it +4? I think LP-1 is not a +4 device. If you match your impedance, then the "weak signal" coming from DM1000 will not be necessary. Daniel On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:27 AM, William Walker wrote: > Yes hit the all tracks button on the front panel, scroll the encoder knob to master lever and adjust accordingly, the output is usually set at -1, I'd increase that to 0 or higher. > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 17:21:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A718183E9B; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=DP4+l3Zc8RfuoqNLTPimAUUUuUDWLVJS4qW58iMw94J9+fQZNaeEBJxiOq7AoYsl; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <262B2C8B-AFA0-4635-B8FA-596C913CC667@mac.com> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <262B2C8B-AFA0-4635-B8FA-596C913CC667@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:21:06 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-903877623==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec797ddc87357af4f6f954281c40d22cd0e0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:21:19 +0000 (UTC) --============_-903877623==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding impedance here... The output impedance of the DM1000 omni outputs=20 is stated as less than 75=87. An "ideal" output=20 source has an output impedance of zero ohms,=20 which means that it can drive any input without=20 loading. The LP1 should have at least a 10k=87=20 input impedance, so the DM1000 will have no=20 problems driving the LP1. If the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs,=20 then wiring the XLR outputs to the LP-1 will=20 simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to the 1/4"=20 connector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4"=20 "sleeve". This unbalancing will reduce the signal level by=20 6dB simply by virtue of the fact that you're not=20 using the opposing polarity signal on pin 3 of=20 the XLR. If the LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal,=20 then it's a simple matter to build an attenuator=20 into the unbalancing adaptor cable I described=20 above. If you connect a 10k=87 resistor to the output XLR=20 (f) pin 2 connector and wire the other side of=20 that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" plug=20 AND (2) to a 1k=87 resistor whose other end is=20 connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you will have 20dB=20 less signal at the 1/4" plug. When returning the LP-1 to the DM simply make a=20 cable that connects the "tip" of the 1/4" plug to=20 pin 2 of the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of the=20 XLR (m) plug to the 1/4" "sleeve". Grounding pin=20 3 will give you as much as 6dB more gain,=20 depending on the design of the input at the=20 DM1000. -Chuck Zwicky >>if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then=20 >>you will get a low level in and out of the=20 >>lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. >> > >True that... unless the DM1000 has impedance=20 >control on its AUX output buss. (Or conversly,=20 >the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of=20 >doubt that LP1 would have this feature-- its=20 >more common to large scale digital mixers) > >A less than attractive alternative would be=20 >impedance line conversion adaptor on the send=20 >into LP-1 > > >D > >>if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then=20 >>you will get a low level in and out of the=20 >>lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. >> >>sim >> >>On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky=20 >><cazwicky@earthlink.net>=20 >>wrote: >> >>The first thing I'd recommend is that you check=20 >>the signal levels using the DM1000 tone=20 >>generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out=20 >>you've selected on the DM1000. If the LP is an=20 >>"instrument level only" device, then you might=20 >>need to trim he output by 30dB or more. Check=20 >>the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level=20 >>option... >> >>>All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI=20 >>>where necessary. I am playing chapman stick=20 >>>with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes=20 >>>from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I=20 >>>stay well within the boundaries of what the=20 >>>LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is=20 >>>very weak. You are saying I should boost the=20 >>>return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you=20 >>>properly? Would I be better off using a mixer=20 >>>with unbalanced OUTPUTS? >>> >> >>ANtony Hequet >> >> >> >>From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >>To:=20 >>Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com >>Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM >>Subject: Re: LP1 tech question >> >>First suggestion would be give full details about how you're >>connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. >> >>The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to >>go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost >>the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. >> >>The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward >>there's no disadvantage to this. >> >>andy >> >>antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >>> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with=20 >>>new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a=20 >>>unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and=20 >>>everything went smooth. Now I am using a=20 >>>balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the=20 >>>Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or=20 >>>immediately distorting heavily. Never managed=20 >>>to work it out... Any suggestions? >> > >>> Antony Hequet >> >> >> >>-- >> >>... >>http://www.zmix.net >> >>http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >> >>http://albumcredits.com/zmix -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-903877623==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LP1 tech question
There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding impedance here...

The output impedance of the DM1000 omni outputs is stated as less than 75=87. An "ideal" output source has an output impedance of zero ohms, which means that it can drive any input without loading.  The LP1 should have at least a 10k=87  input impedance, so the DM1000 will have no problems driving the LP1.

If the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs, then wiring the XLR outputs to the LP-1  will simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to the 1/4" connector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4" "sleeve".

 This unbalancing will reduce the signal level by 6dB simply by virtue of the fact that you're not using the opposing polarity signal on pin 3 of the XLR.

If the LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal, then it's a simple matter to build an attenuator into the unbalancing adaptor cable I described above.

If you connect a 10k=87 resistor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector and wire the other side of that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" plug AND (2) to a 1k=87 resistor whose other end is connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you will have  20dB less signal at the 1/4" plug.


When returning the LP-1 to the DM simply make a cable that connects the "tip" of the 1/4" plug to pin 2 of the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of the XLR (m) plug to the 1/4" "sleeve".  Grounding pin 3 will give you as much as 6dB more gain, depending on the design of the input at the DM1000.

-Chuck Zwicky

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.

True that... unless the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX output buss.  (Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 would have this feature-- its more common to large scale digital mixers)

A less than attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion adaptor on the send into LP-1


D

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.

sim
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

=46irst suggestion would be give full details about how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 17:57:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FE56183F00; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 183737.61319.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308247019; bh=nA3ljBOe/5SGlGKb4xqD4lFvhe0YovffRq0rZadbKk8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IewkbtKHQezguVqLi9srlX3aLRoWDV1RuRBlIVD1gPWOJSoFH2n6BCxRXxZJwbCYTFYWbF3G4nPmgv0z7HWiT0v6sworx+dw6PETooapfx9D81/aY+6h5cQMErLoBqJEeVmXPLoNSko/IRzECLg/PYQt9Y9l2JwQTq4egSboilY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dxqRRQvZ2sGN3vo6EReqwREZ8E+2GlaMOoAkIhA+BuV4FlkmWoBEI+o7cOmy2ix7G5cdynbUCtSHFRzT0dJZN/qE37zbJHGmfu4ZWLFFgmXhtbqi86efuhzeSyE1TIAL7AYGIaZb21NzepubD7dC5no1lf9Iq8FE6mqqBcFL6cs=; Message-ID: <47639.33609.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RpTXksUVM1kJpvPo6GIquQ1bZ.qzSD7vdEzsnBKhRIJm_8R GIykEEY4Byr.gEsVcju9f5mN098M0QtUqSQE1O7BFi.J6gnDY1T3Uz6_ZX.4 zacCXX4jRzkJz8XoU2uJjX7GpoQqvryQZAxEJfLv6I_ruot7pNzY7q.V6CHb q8U30CbXc2w79hKARf9K.bamW2avFTC_hYI6RtPe8mAuSW1rVXjgdXc2beVV F8CYHlTRuA4X7Is5puJVD9DNxmVItfdZ92Lm2xMQj_OS.UYTV6wUIpQnz1YI TkNyEkDeQS_kKuxJf7_dyT7foZnIxJ2Q3spUk6nCLDNiyKegiZO.83K4ecim gEl4KE5rpYxAvZgjWBWsOEJI0Rt_5ES62r484ymKg4T1.EAYHeCz.mA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <9C8748CA-729D-4FCA-8D18-CFD13B593F63@baymoon.com> <44E8853E-921F-4E06-84B7-FB561AAC2CC9@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:56:58 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <44E8853E-921F-4E06-84B7-FB561AAC2CC9@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1067133003-1308247018=:33609" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:57:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-1067133003-1308247018=:33609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii will check, thanks Daniel. Antony ________________________________ From: Daniel Thomas To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:35:29 PM Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Sounds like an impedance matching problem. Many digital mixers let you switch the impedance on Aux busses. Check your DM1000 manual. Is the AUX buss outputing +4 ? If so, can you change it? Daniel On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:04 AM, William Walker wrote: > its possible that the balanced signal from your DM100 is hotter than than from >your previous mixer. try turning down the send volumes feeding the looper and >then use the LP-1 's master level to bring the volume back up on the back end. >one question: is this an aux out designed to be an effects send or just an aux >out for routing purposes? > Bill > --0-1067133003-1308247018=:33609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
will check, thanks Daniel.

Antony

From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:35:29 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

Sounds like an impedance matching problem. 

Many digital mixers let you switch the impedance on Aux busses.  Check your DM1000 manual.  Is the AUX buss outputing +4 ?  If so, can you change it?

Daniel
On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:04 AM, William Walker wrote:

> its possible that the balanced signal from your DM100 is hotter than than from your previous mixer. try turning down the send volumes feeding the looper and then use the LP-1 's master level to bring the volume back up on the back end. one question: is this an aux out designed to be an effects send or just an aux out for routing purposes?
> Bill
>

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hope it can be done on the mixer!

Antony

From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:37:26 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

Bill speaks the truth..  provided that your impedance is not mismatched.  Check the DM 1000 manual to determine output impedance on the Aux buss.  Is it +4?  I think LP-1 is not a +4 device. If you match your impedance, then the "weak signal" coming from DM1000 will not be necessary.

Daniel
On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:27 AM, William Walker wrote:

> Yes hit the all tracks button on the front panel, scroll the encoder knob to master lever and adjust accordingly, the output is usually set at -1, I'd increase that to 0 or higher.
> Bill
>

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the DM1000 is p=E2rt of the pro lien, like a sma= ll DM2000.

Antony

From: richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question
=0A
Anthony, 

If you don't g= et an answer here I know someone who would know.  Is that one of the b= igger Yamaha mixers?  If so, I have a friend (studio owner) who has a = few and has mastered all aspects of them.  

Richard Sales
S= ent from my IPad


On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:36 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:

<= div>I am having problems = interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalance= d signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a = balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too we= ak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any s= uggestions?

Antony Hequet
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The LP1 is instrument level only, unfortunately... Antony ________________________________ From: Charles Zwicky To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:41:33 PM Subject: Re: LP1 tech question The first thing I'd recommend is that you check the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000. If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option... All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS? > ANtony Hequet > ________________________________ From: andy butler >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM >Subject: Re: LP1 tech question > >First suggestion would be give full details about how you're >connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. > >The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to >go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost >the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. > >The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward >there's no disadvantage to this. > >andy > >antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to >>take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I >>am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either >>too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any >>suggestions? >> >> Antony Hequet -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --0-1969161059-1308247194=:19082 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
WIll do the level check. The LP1 is instrument level only, unfortunately...

Antony

From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

The first thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

First suggestion would be give full details about how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet


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If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option... > > >All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing >chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to >balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT >will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the >return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off >using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS? > ANtony Hequet > ________________________________ From: andy butler >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM >Subject: Re: LP1 tech question > >First suggestion would be give full details about how you're >connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. > >The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to >go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost >the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. > >The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward >there's no disadvantage to this. > >andy > >antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to >>take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I >>am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either >>too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any >>suggestions? >> >> Antony Hequet >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix --0-1773050705-1308247231=:54718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
that's what I thought, mismatched pair:-)

Antony

From: Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:49:17 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. 

sim

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

First suggestion would be give full details about how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet


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Andy,

are you talking about the internal output gain of the LP1, not sure if I ever found the access to it but will check again...

Antony

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:52:32 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak.

yup, that's kind of normal

> You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1.

yes

> Am I reading you properly?

yessir



If the mixer input you're using doesn't have enough gain then
maybe one of the other inputs does.


> Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

I don't think so.




I'm afraid I'm going to go against what Bill says in this case.
Raising the LP1's output level by the menu will cause distortion
within the LP1.
I'd actually suggest checking it, and make sure it *is* on -1.


andy




--0-1023659259-1308247328=:25694-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 18:03:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6118F183F6B; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 733819.39246.bm@omp1029.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308247386; bh=SBrZGKDssCjwyC7soeC0KsnqoOBYjCEniUr0vGbUTUA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MI8sczBLqzeTsqVNnCHRV6PkAKfa0f/XtdSiDDSaMGq7E9takRKBTtGCNAmK4h7Mtv9CWb+JczkshtjtXLIK/M7GGj0Yx3tiVrWZBGsS1zkwsgnl16yuvA/q4pLJuLcyHFWNIiFzgGvMw8f2whUtDKanIt8hXXpnFW8YAfHn6F8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kYDQpgbObksmsjxRGdiIEKLoeB9uRwbPn6CrdYFmc54e9vvRy35C6CqVvkLFuDtGhA1WQifSlDsaQUelfE5Rv4YzKzOq0P5JQOV9NqpphjOqoO/OSyjr5za5Vl8pMumGYpNZpkw8H9selQ2n3uZCDvgYt3LOkyWzI7flO7in7LI=; Message-ID: <624395.7477.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zn2SA2MVM1kUVqkjcY1WEwfSfzD8eiN8OzdS12Ro5.vEvkE u7grv4WI1SdXvP7JuVDOrGr7vedjt7U8nu1dqg_rTxgtdGrXEIMkcAVNrDXT mWJdIsErnwNOyh4MupeWXRUN9nw0SeG.qPN5iyD6mGXzlnQlKXI9d6x7TInW Tu_odz0MOuhD1nfnn5bsvXWS.Dw68xKwrLsQ2rfMJV640pzvsnl27Wtt1Djr LgKaGsCVI2owmaTLMTqvUVFrsubY7pWf8xqdAOOlTz12vtpFxvGxamxIoo5S iZ9apTu6j6HKSefee6Scwkdr2QJkk5J4HTUSrLiF3wNhjCwe5Nwfseaw4Ues ZcR0lIC6Op8tKrzIYodbXvvD0Q3OeYyQHp97GjZCFAFHBHkzNAjVmTZ7JImD kNVGjWaLW4s5t.iG3MtXno_fpDExx9RQdI4J6Z9g2WBxEN1BNeUZjyD.JC0L aHCLWqvS_1vOTv1vNIiht2YALDK5T9yvS9c8MTajPACGrAli9JsnzLRIliOL gFkWd4kBFrBmslOsqs6PahFVCA8kPr.59YbkAvEXIW.7A4xd8n7xGZQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <262B2C8B-AFA0-4635-B8FA-596C913CC667@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <262B2C8B-AFA0-4635-B8FA-596C913CC667@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1951456529-1308247386=:7477" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:03:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-1951456529-1308247386=:7477 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii where do you find an impedance line conversion adaptor? Antony ________________________________ From: Daniel Thomas To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM Subject: Re: LP1 tech question if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. True that... unless the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX output buss. (Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 would have this feature-- its more common to large scale digital mixers) A less than attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion adaptor on the send into LP-1 D if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. > > >sim > > >On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > >The first thing I'd recommend is that you check the signal levels using the >DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the >DM1000. If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to >trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line >level option... >> >> >>All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing >>chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to >>balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT >>will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the >>return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off >>using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS? > >> ANtony Hequet > ________________________________ From: andy butler >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM >Subject: Re: LP1 tech question > >First suggestion would be give full details about how you're >connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts. > >The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to >go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost >the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. > >The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward >there's no disadvantage to this. > >andy > >antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to >>take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I >>am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either >>too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any >>suggestions? >> >> Antony Hequet >>-- >> >>... >>http://www.zmix.net/ >> >>http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >> >>http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --0-1951456529-1308247386=:7477 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
where do you find an impedance line conversion adaptor?

Antony

From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. 

True that... unless the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX output buss.  (Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 would have this feature-- its more common to large scale digital mixers)

A less than attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion adaptor on the send into LP-1


D

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. 

sim

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

First suggestion would be give full details about how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet


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--0-1951456529-1308247386=:7477-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 18:16:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C12AD183F2B; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kSruQIEuuM5t++7hNHdgGORZJ/JMNo2XgGfxdpwdlF0=; b=YGcHru76w3KsINF/eOHEHVHDlarUM7vNMfUKchbu3Ua4LgFAllTFkEgTG3rSDgufBk teI6I+paIm3WT0/P1KMY3Uyn8C53X3fbnuxldi0aOnAHD16/TUR7GEvi56io1wnqsTRU UQhJMB/aiHMaGRxsXc+/dZ488MGsIcN/UNL04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PxXqt/BCWidmrz17mkEvyJlsuYTReZeElwbLg3belDKbUWcie8zLz9stsq4yBrvTHL Xs5ZjXoeT8BuROy9+oW4FMpOBj1SxZPjsCLfJ08AOK2OO6ZvQx/UiVyFFpcM+6//DQpt DL/lHrCKnGWzQK8pfP8bnMYUaolOoDtS5gNII= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8FE56B24-743A-431D-82C4-3C1C2ACB735D@charter.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:06:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: couple of new pieces From: Jim Goodin To: Stephen Goodman , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Fellas thx for the positive words and Stephen sure add to away, I can put it up on this weekend's IF if you get something in that time. Flattered you want to add to. Jim On 6/15/11, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Ditto on that Jim! It's been a madhouse round here this week... I find > myself curious about putting some accompaniment to your first piece... :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:23 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: couple of new pieces > > Enjoyed those Jim. > > Nice to hear you do more violin. > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Cascading_Lights_Above_The_Noi= se_Floor_IF_June_11_2011.mp3 >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Spiral_June_11_2011.mp3 > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 18:22:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C4C2183F33; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YUEacQbYNX+b7chLF6uZBg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-16_08:2011-06-16,2011-06-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106160143 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:17:48 -0700 In-reply-to: <624395.7477.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <262B2C8B-AFA0-4635-B8FA-596C913CC667@mac.com> <624395.7477.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-id: <40680A5A-3ACB-4791-8D70-AE5D1E3FBEF4@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <11VI8B.A.WfC.xnk-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:22:41 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_YUEacQbYNX+b7chLF6uZBg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 I think Charles has given the most correct response to your inquiry. = Chew it well.. I did and it sharpened my teeth nicely. =20 This just proves, you don't have to be an electrical engineer to manage = pro audio.. but it doesn't hurt. =20 <><>< If the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs, then wiring the XLR = outputs to the LP-1 will simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to the = 1/4" connector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4" "sleeve". This unbalancing will reduce the signal level by 6dB simply by virtue = of the fact that you're not using the opposing polarity signal on pin 3 = of the XLR. If the LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal, then it's a simple matter = to build an attenuator into the unbalancing adaptor cable I described = above. If you connect a 10k=87 resistor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector = and wire the other side of that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" = plug AND (2) to a 1k=87 resistor whose other end is connected to XLR (f) = pin 1 you will have 20dB less signal at the 1/4" plug. When returning the LP-1 to the DM simply make a cable that connects the = "tip" of the 1/4" plug to pin 2 of the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of = the XLR (m) plug to the 1/4" "sleeve". Grounding pin 3 will give you as = much as 6dB more gain, depending on the design of the input at the = DM1000. <><>< Or, if you are soldergun challenged, you can hit your local pro-audio = store for prebuilt adaptors/cables....=20 daniel=20 On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:03 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > where do you find an impedance line conversion adaptor? >=20 > Antony >=20 > From: Daniel Thomas > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM > Subject: Re: LP1 tech question >=20 >> if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low = level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.=20 >=20 >=20 > True that... unless the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX output = buss. (Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of = doubt that LP1 would have this feature-- its more common to large scale = digital mixers) >=20 > A less than attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion = adaptor on the send into LP-1 >=20 >=20 > D >=20 >> if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low = level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.=20 >>=20 >> sim >>=20 >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky = wrote: >> The first thing I'd recommend is that you check the signal levels = using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've = selected on the DM1000. If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, = then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 = docs to see if there is a line level option... >>=20 >>> All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am = playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from = DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries = of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You = are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading = you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced = OUTPUTS? >>>=20 >>> ANtony Hequet >>>=20 >>> From: andy butler >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: LP1 tech question >>>=20 >>> First suggestion would be give full details about how you're >>> connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it = distorts. >>>=20 >>> The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to >>> go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost >>> the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. >>>=20 >>> The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward >>> there's no disadvantage to this. >>>=20 >>> andy >>>=20 >>> antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >>> > I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 = mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and = everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX = OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately = distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions? >>> > >>> > Antony Hequet >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net/ >>=20 >> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >>=20 >> http://albumcredits.com/zmix >>=20 >=20 >=20 --Boundary_(ID_YUEacQbYNX+b7chLF6uZBg) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi 

I think Charles has = given the most correct response to your inquiry.    Chew it = well.. I did and it sharpened my teeth nicely. =  

This just proves, you don't have to be = an electrical engineer to manage pro audio..  but it doesn't hurt. =  

<><><
If = the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs, then wiring the XLR = outputs to the LP-1  will simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to = the 1/4" connector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4" = "sleeve".

 This unbalancing will reduce = the signal level by 6dB simply by virtue of the fact that you're not = using the opposing polarity signal on pin 3 of the XLR.

If the LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal, then it's a = simple matter to build an attenuator into the unbalancing adaptor cable = I described above.
If you connect a = 10k=87 resistor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector and wire the other = side of that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" plug AND (2) to a 1k=87= resistor whose other end is connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you will = have  20dB less signal at the 1/4" = plug.

When returning the LP-1 to the DM = simply make a cable that connects the "tip" of the 1/4" plug to pin 2 of = the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of the XLR (m) plug to the 1/4" = "sleeve".  Grounding pin 3 will give you as much as 6dB more gain, = depending on the design of the input at the = DM1000.

<><><

=
Or, if you are soldergun challenged, you can hit your local = pro-audio store for prebuilt = adaptors/cables.... 

daniel 
= On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:03 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

where do you find an = impedance line conversion adaptor?
Antony

From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
= To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Thu, = June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM
 Re: LP1 tech = question

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will = get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins = and outs. 
True that... unless the DM1000 = has impedance control on its AUX output buss.  (Or conversly, the = LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 would have = this feature-- its more common to large scale digital mixers)

A less than = attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion adaptor on the = send into LP-1


D

if the aux sends = and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of = the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. 

On Thu, Jun = 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first = thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the = DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected = on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, = then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the = LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where = necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. = Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well = within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT = signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal = from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a = mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony = Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
<= b>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 = PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech = question

First suggestion would be give full details about = how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and = where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for = headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you = send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect = with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from = being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having = problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take = a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now = I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal = is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to = work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony = Hequet


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= --Boundary_(ID_YUEacQbYNX+b7chLF6uZBg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 18:22:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B43CA183F45; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-16_08:2011-06-16,2011-06-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106160143 Subject: Re: LP1 tech question X-Apple-Base-Url: x-msg://1160/ X-Apple-Mail-Remote-Attachments: YES From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <624395.7477.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Apple-Windows-Friendly: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:22:17 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <262B2C8B-AFA0-4635-B8FA-596C913CC667@mac.com> <624395.7477.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Uniform-Type-Identifier: com.apple.mail-draft To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi 

I think Charles has = given the most correct response to your inquiry.    Chew it = well.. I did and it sharpened my teeth and freshened my breath. :) =  

This just proves, you don't have to be = an electrical engineer to manage pro audio..  but it doesn't hurt. =  

<><><
If = the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs, then wiring the XLR = outputs to the LP-1  will simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to = the 1/4" connector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4" = "sleeve".

 This unbalancing will reduce = the signal level by 6dB simply by virtue of the fact that you're not = using the opposing polarity signal on pin 3 of the XLR.

If the LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal, then it's a = simple matter to build an attenuator into the unbalancing adaptor cable = I described above.
If you connect a = 10k=87 resistor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector and wire the other = side of that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" plug AND (2) to a 1k=87= resistor whose other end is connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you will = have  20dB less signal at the 1/4" = plug.

When returning the LP-1 to the DM = simply make a cable that connects the "tip" of the 1/4" plug to pin 2 of = the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of the XLR (m) plug to the 1/4" = "sleeve".  Grounding pin 3 will give you as much as 6dB more gain, = depending on the design of the input at the = DM1000.

<><><

=
Or, if you are soldergun challenged, you can hit your local = pro-audio store for prebuilt = adaptors/cables.... 

daniel 
= On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:03 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

where do you find an = impedance line conversion adaptor?
Antony

From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
= To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Thu, = June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM
 Re: LP1 tech = question

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will = get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins = and outs. 
True that... unless the DM1000 = has impedance control on its AUX output buss.  (Or conversly, the = LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 would have = this feature-- its more common to large scale digital mixers)

A less than = attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion adaptor on the = send into LP-1


D

if the aux sends = and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of = the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. 

On Thu, Jun = 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first = thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the = DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected = on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, = then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the = LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where = necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. = Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well = within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT = signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal = from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a = mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony = Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
<= b>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 = PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech = question

First suggestion would be give full details about = how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and = where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for = headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you = send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect = with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from = being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having = problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take = a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now = I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal = is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to = work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony = Hequet


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= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 18:22:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BE5D183F5C; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YBNIDML8XtVonA/s8St+fg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-16_08:2011-06-16,2011-06-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106160143 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:22:21 -0700 In-reply-to: <624395.7477.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <262B2C8B-AFA0-4635-B8FA-596C913CC667@mac.com> <624395.7477.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-id: <010F4CCB-7154-4D2C-A5D1-D117B34BDD07@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:22:42 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_YBNIDML8XtVonA/s8St+fg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 I think Charles has given the most correct response to your inquiry. = Chew it well.. I did and it sharpened my teeth and freshened my breath. = :) =20 This just proves, you don't have to be an electrical engineer to manage = pro audio.. but it doesn't hurt. =20 <><>< If the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs, then wiring the XLR = outputs to the LP-1 will simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to the = 1/4" connector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4" "sleeve". This unbalancing will reduce the signal level by 6dB simply by virtue = of the fact that you're not using the opposing polarity signal on pin 3 = of the XLR. If the LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal, then it's a simple matter = to build an attenuator into the unbalancing adaptor cable I described = above. If you connect a 10k=87 resistor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector = and wire the other side of that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" = plug AND (2) to a 1k=87 resistor whose other end is connected to XLR (f) = pin 1 you will have 20dB less signal at the 1/4" plug. When returning the LP-1 to the DM simply make a cable that connects the = "tip" of the 1/4" plug to pin 2 of the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of = the XLR (m) plug to the 1/4" "sleeve". Grounding pin 3 will give you as = much as 6dB more gain, depending on the design of the input at the = DM1000. <><>< Or, if you are soldergun challenged, you can hit your local pro-audio = store for prebuilt adaptors/cables....=20 daniel=20 On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:03 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > where do you find an impedance line conversion adaptor? >=20 > Antony >=20 > From: Daniel Thomas > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM > Subject: Re: LP1 tech question >=20 >> if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low = level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.=20 >=20 >=20 > True that... unless the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX output = buss. (Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of = doubt that LP1 would have this feature-- its more common to large scale = digital mixers) >=20 > A less than attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion = adaptor on the send into LP-1 >=20 >=20 > D >=20 >> if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low = level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.=20 >>=20 >> sim >>=20 >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky = wrote: >> The first thing I'd recommend is that you check the signal levels = using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've = selected on the DM1000. If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, = then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 = docs to see if there is a line level option... >>=20 >>> All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am = playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from = DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries = of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You = are saying I should boost the return signal from the LP1. Am I reading = you properly? Would I be better off using a mixer with unbalanced = OUTPUTS? >>>=20 >>> ANtony Hequet >>>=20 >>> From: andy butler >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: LP1 tech question >>>=20 >>> First suggestion would be give full details about how you're >>> connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it = distorts. >>>=20 >>> The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to >>> go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost >>> the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer. >>>=20 >>> The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward >>> there's no disadvantage to this. >>>=20 >>> andy >>>=20 >>> antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >>> > I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 = mixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and = everything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX = OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately = distorting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any suggestions? >>> > >>> > Antony Hequet >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net/ >>=20 >> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >>=20 >> http://albumcredits.com/zmix >>=20 >=20 >=20 --Boundary_(ID_YBNIDML8XtVonA/s8St+fg) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi 

I think Charles has = given the most correct response to your inquiry.    Chew it = well.. I did and it sharpened my teeth and freshened my breath. :) =  

This just proves, you don't have to be = an electrical engineer to manage pro audio..  but it doesn't hurt. =  

<><><
If = the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs, then wiring the XLR = outputs to the LP-1  will simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to = the 1/4" connector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4" = "sleeve".

 This unbalancing will reduce = the signal level by 6dB simply by virtue of the fact that you're not = using the opposing polarity signal on pin 3 of the XLR.

If the LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal, then it's a = simple matter to build an attenuator into the unbalancing adaptor cable = I described above.
If you connect a = 10k=87 resistor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector and wire the other = side of that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" plug AND (2) to a 1k=87= resistor whose other end is connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you will = have  20dB less signal at the 1/4" = plug.

When returning the LP-1 to the DM = simply make a cable that connects the "tip" of the 1/4" plug to pin 2 of = the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of the XLR (m) plug to the 1/4" = "sleeve".  Grounding pin 3 will give you as much as 6dB more gain, = depending on the design of the input at the = DM1000.

<><><

=
Or, if you are soldergun challenged, you can hit your local = pro-audio store for prebuilt = adaptors/cables.... 

daniel 
= On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:03 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

where do you find an = impedance line conversion adaptor?
Antony

From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
= To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Thu, = June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM
 Re: LP1 tech = question

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will = get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins = and outs. 
True that... unless the DM1000 = has impedance control on its AUX output buss.  (Or conversly, the = LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 would have = this feature-- its more common to large scale digital mixers)

A less than = attractive alternative would be impedance line conversion adaptor on the = send into LP-1


D

if the aux sends = and returns are balanced, then you will get a low level in and out of = the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs. 

On Thu, Jun = 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first = thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal levels using the = DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected = on the DM1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, = then you might need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the = LP1 docs to see if there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where = necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. = Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If  I stay well = within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, my OUTPUT = signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return signal = from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a = mixer with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony = Hequet

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
<= b>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 = PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech = question

First suggestion would be give full details about = how you're
connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and = where it distorts.

The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for = headroom so you'll have to
go easy on the signal strength that you = send to it and boost
the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect = with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from = being awkward
there's no disadvantage to this.

andy

antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am having = problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I used to take = a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything went smooth. Now = I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal = is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed to = work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony = Hequet


--=20


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= --Boundary_(ID_YBNIDML8XtVonA/s8St+fg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 19:26:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EC0C18387E; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DFA58CE.9010000@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:26:06 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Richards CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone References: <122140.27365.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <122140.27365.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:26:11 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > Has anyone seen that vid of Kenny G doing an improv of Hendrix's > version of the Star Spangled Banner? Behind, raining frogs and cats and dogs loving each other, isn't this the third sign of the Apocalypse as foretold in Revelations in the Bible? Scared.......................very scared and nervous! 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It was a = lot of hard work and I'm super proud of it! I'll post about it again when t= he whole thing is done with the book and all :) --- On Thu, 6/16/11, daniel wrote: From: daniel Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, June 16, 2011, 8:28 AM ha! this is awesome! On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Thomas wrot= e:=0ALoving this!! =0A=0A =0Adaniel =0A What an exciting project! Listening now... Greetings from=C2=A0Sweden Per Boysen On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Steve Uccello wrote: =0A =0A> Hi Loopers! =0A> =0A> Just wanted to share a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's 'Atalan= ta Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document in history incl= uding 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be enjoyed simultane= ously. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, medieval flavor, and I = went for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' interpretation. =0A=0A> =0A> For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty Loop= erlative 1. =0A> =0A> I basically did a live looping approach in my home studio, layering th= e fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the LP-1 to a lapto= p as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or editing. =C2= =A0It was awesome to be able to record with such a high sound quality all a= t the touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 voiced =E2=80=98= BASS CHOIR=E2=80=99 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC FRETTED BASS,= and ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS. =0A=0A> =0A> 'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is set to r= elease this in December. Our intention is to create a fine book that includ= es a CD along with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=E2=80=99s planni= ng to create 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the original = 50. =0A=0A> =0A> After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. Th= ough the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended by Maier, I h= ope that sharing the music might be of interest to any interested in music = with alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or fine books. =C2=A0Here is = a link to all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud', =0A=0A> =0A> http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets =0A> =0A> Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello =0A> =0A =0A =0A --0-1432789021-1308253516=:39501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for listening you guys-so glad you're = enjoying the sounds! It was a lot of hard work and I'm super proud of it! I= 'll post about it again when the whole thing is done with the book and all = :)



--- On Thu, 6/16/11, daniel <dan= iel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:

Fr= om: daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org>
Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugu= es with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Thursday, June 16, 2011, 8:28 AM

ha! this is awesome!


=
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:31 P= M, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote= :
=0ALoving this!!
=0A=0A
=0Adan= iel
=0A

What an exciting p= roject! Listening now...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen


On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Steve Uccello w= rote:
=0A
=0A> Hi Loopers!
=0A>
=0A> Just wanted to sh= are a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's 'Atalanta Fugiens' (1617) -pr= obably the first multi media document in history including 50 fugues, 50 em= blems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be enjoyed simultaneously. Though composed= in 1617, they have a droney, medieval flavor, and I went for a kind of 'Bl= ack Sabbath meets Bach' interpretation.
=0A=0A>
=0A> For the en= tire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty Looperlative 1.
= =0A>
=0A> I basically did a live looping approach in my home studi= o, layering the fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the L= P-1 to a laptop as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or= editing.  It was awesome to be able to record with such a high sound = quality all at the touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 voi= ced =E2=80=98BASS CHOIR=E2=80=99 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC = FRETTED BASS, and ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS.
=0A=0A>
=0A> 'Clarif= ied Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is set to release this = in December. Our intention is to create a fine book that includes a CD alon= g with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=E2=80=99s planning to create= 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the original 50.
=0A= =0A>
=0A> After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by R= obert Rich. Though the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended= by Maier, I hope that sharing the music might be of interest to any intere= sted in music with alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or fine books. =  Here is a link to all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud',
=0A=0A&= gt;
=0A> http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets
=0A>
=0A> Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello
=0A>
= =0A
=0A

=0A
--0-1432789021-1308253516=:39501-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 19:47:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B96B183BB0; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DFA5DAD.30508@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:46:53 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gareth Whittock CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: long delay for mac References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:47:00 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > The choice of plugins seems minuscule compared to windows or am I just > looking in the wrong places? I've discussed this phenomenon many times here at L.D. When KVR had their KVR challenge (offering a few thousand dollars to the person who created the most inventive freeware audio effects plugin) hundreds were submitted and of the forty that were published, there were only two for OSX versus 36 for Windows (a couple for Linux, too, as I recall). This has been a constant in the Windows world for the past ten years. There's just a lot more freeware (and idiosyncratic) developement of effects plugins Personally, I look for the intense (and often quirky) creativity that come from young people's freeware plugins. The last KVR challenge winner made a plugin that simulates insect sounds..........lol! So, I'm more a fan of Windows. Also, for me, the presence of programs like FL Studio/Sony Vegas/Sony Sound Forge/Sony Acid and stand alone creative apps like Granulab and Tuareg (slicer program) that just aren't available for OS X keeps me there. There are also wonderful programs (very notably, Logic Pro) that aren't found on Windows and there's the whole aspect of potential viruses and mal and phisware that plague Windows (solution: don't use your audio system online!) but I just read an article that said that now that Apple has become the largest media company on earth that virus writers are starting to target Macs. Computer security problems are here to stay, I"m afraid. There are, of course, many advantages to using OS X as well, but I still run Windows (and even, archaicly, Win XP which is now 2 OSs old, because it works so well for my audio set up). Solutions? Use Bootcamp with a dual boot system; install Win XP Professional, Service Pack 2 or Win 7 and do your music editing on the Win XP side and import your files. or stay with OS X and Use a VST wrapper with either AU or TDM plugin systems in your DAW. Good luck, Gareth. The Intel Macs (with their abilities to have dual boot systems) are, if very pricey, very wonderful (and this is said by someone who randomly seems to have bought a lemon MacBook Pro). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 20:08:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6265D183BB9; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DFA62C6.1080004@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:08:38 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Syncing two EDPS References: <4DF8C1E9.90303@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DF8C1E9.90303@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:08:43 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > Can't you just midi sync the EDPs ? This may just be my naivete, but wasn't Brother Sync designed specifically to solve this problem? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 20:45:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF414183A46; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CFI7LM1VNm5ES6SQjQBn9ug1mVPE/d5ON2fcWqytdog=; b=GsX05ObYU/0TBW3jG0vqHeTgs4ZYYPLrP7PftimtLIXvVdBp5DmtKpOYOJr+cXDkxa O93+jclNaRoTpUPJWQh2gVg4RK8gBaZM12pdH44quWV/biTvX8I1y0OFUUonDIgdpigu MkPucHKslS3KM+gmimN7XFQn5Er3liEnfGUe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cezwLSkK2taveB/PsGfPRsWGQ2zHeSrMsa3uAyP0LXdQMgbCZNbBZ/dR+G9nDu8V4J kjcae+8WhzFsMzvyM2433LZKAhMmztHI82ImbnefKhIttDhSMp9i2fuHF5Pmc4TRbq/E V1gpZ0Lsiea1tLvduOqFmKFetNjSl8PSgA1FY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:45:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Sound vs function From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174485fccaf79104a5da57cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:45:03 +0000 (UTC) --0015174485fccaf79104a5da57cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm a huge tone snob. I love the natural warmth of guitar -> amp, but I also love effects. I have a whole hardware rig set up, but I still feel limited by inability to reroute patches / automate paramaters. Enter software. Something like pure data looks amazing for effects, and ableton makes perfect sense for looping. The ability throw various effects on a particular loop, then fade that in/out with one command really entices me. BUT: Computer-processed music always seems to always have a low-end sheen to it. WHAT TO DO? --0015174485fccaf79104a5da57cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm a huge tone snob. I love the natural warmth of guitar -> amp, bu= t I also love effects.

I have a whole hardware rig set u= p, but I still feel limited by inability to reroute patches / automate para= maters.

Enter software.=A0
Something like pure data l= ooks amazing for effects, and ableton makes perfect sense for looping. The = ability throw various effects on a particular loop, then fade that in/out w= ith one command really entices me.
BUT: Computer-processed music always seems to always have a low-end sh= een to it.=A0

WHAT TO DO?


--0015174485fccaf79104a5da57cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 20:51:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C123B183B0F; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-16_09:2011-06-16,2011-06-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106160181 Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:51:27 -0700 Message-id: <7443A677-C6AB-4246-84D1-403124CB48C6@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:51:55 +0000 (UTC) > BUT: Computer-processed music always seems to always have a low-end sheen to it. > > WHAT TO DO? Invest in high end analog gear for the input path. And if you really want to full tilt boogie into the best of both worlds, get into summing analog stem mixes at output. Anyone doing any high fidelity analog audio in their looping rig? (Not me.. the gear is to heavy to schlep) daniel On Jun 16, 2011, at 1:45 PM, marcus kirby wrote: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 20:54:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50C53183B71; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uUwoELLMrC1vhTgGJHsUeaOLoGaKFZZCTZJQSjZhQsM=; b=L1Jqx2IX4lkduwIXrk5c7ws+kScDrH4FjaeFoCjboUv9qpfdc3ANMFVRr4Vonknkba 48kSmwj0NGW+Sl9L25fwCi0OQOZUEgql9hsvLzVOkus2Oomkq9HGAZ5ZbafsmQ6uA87d QWDCw6ryeyrUT2oVgkVBtuX+I6PqqxK5tk3ls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SqJ/esxpuXdAkSpjgESI8Fd+uYeucct/UQmaJ7Ay5FMdiO5tPywIyr8vDjsHhaU/Yj 8fc88cH0MG0RgZdbOKHIVn6xqqcrZoaAzTpgldr2z5tp7DwtRraAn09Cx0qBgzskU17o sHeo3B7rP04EfC8UGYK1IWVHqI82GXOvfLWgs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7443A677-C6AB-4246-84D1-403124CB48C6@mac.com> References: <7443A677-C6AB-4246-84D1-403124CB48C6@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:54:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530ebceac12804a5da7a33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:54:51 +0000 (UTC) --002354530ebceac12804a5da7a33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, I figured that would be necessary. I asked about good quality fw audio interfaces, and most people said RME. I have a lot of money invested in making my guitar sound good, and now it seems like I will have to spend more to make the whole mix sound clean/clear. I'm wondering if it just wouldn't be easier to sample everything with effect, then just sequence it using hardware. Maybe drop tracks to an octatrack and do it that way. I don't know...this is frustrating. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > > BUT: Computer-processed music always seems to always have a low-end sheen > to it. > > > > WHAT TO DO? > > > Invest in high end analog gear for the input path. And if you really want > to full tilt boogie into the best of both worlds, get into summing analog > stem mixes at output. > > Anyone doing any high fidelity analog audio in their looping rig? (Not > me.. the gear is to heavy to schlep) > > daniel > > On Jun 16, 2011, at 1:45 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > > > --002354530ebceac12804a5da7a33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I figured that would be necessary. I asked about good quality fw audi= o interfaces, and most people said RME.

I have a lot of = money invested in making my guitar sound good, and now it seems like I will= have to spend more to make the whole mix sound clean/clear.

I'm wondering if it just wouldn't be easier to = sample everything with effect, then just sequence it using hardware. Maybe = drop tracks to an octatrack and do it that way.

I don't know...this is frustrating.=A0

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> w= rote:
> BUT: Computer-proces= sed music always seems to always have a low-end sheen to it.
>
> WHAT TO DO?


Invest in high end analog gear for the input path. And if you really = want to full tilt boogie into the best of both worlds, get into summing ana= log stem mixes at output.

Anyone doing any high fidelity analog audio in their looping rig? =A0(Not m= e.. the gear is to heavy to schlep)

daniel

On Jun 16, 2011, at 1:45 PM, marcus kirby wrote:



--002354530ebceac12804a5da7a33-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 21:59:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D5EE183AE3; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3223A2C0-566B-4136-8B72-4E8EA16B285E@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--758118207 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:59:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:59:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--758118207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy is right, find an alternative to jacking up the internal volume of the LP-1. And thanks for the tip Andy , I had always suspected some internal clipping issues related to the master volume control. And in addition to Charles sound advice, I also think that an impedance level conversion box might do the trick, like this: http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=90&cat=13&id=158 or this http://www.ebtechaudio.com/llsdes.html bill --Apple-Mail-4--758118207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy is right, find an alternative to jacking up the internal volume of the LP-1. And thanks for the tip Andy , I had always suspected some internal clipping issues related to the master volume control.  And in addition to Charles sound advice, I also think that an impedance level conversion box might do the trick,   like this:
or this

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--Apple-Mail-4--758118207-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 22:05:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F09D183B08; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o9D9wA2BeC7LXLde5CLaYgXs2B/qvo28ZA8B2TsRoTM=; b=iZ0wZ8a54mrB/ivw406HC1vGCmMfD/UwWk/S0XowLYJ6YevhyfBkeRUgzVz3VL9gNm tPBKSQL6YHCyyltS/CIA4F5CGcFMA3gNEZ9xVAu9JHW7cKrK5dezl74J9mfgJBRZ/ZAK qvwUJQr36H14rKCnbGuBL6/fXpI7sFaBskIC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JAUEkZ5rZvJ/dIrz+544mC2wHVYidboZaRixGvmQjIXxAa9cG/0RnO7QXSnxRtLHsv CC8E4W/O4TbepuIyTvb9UXx5t7ib0n+1XMecX2PC4a1j7ilnRTM3DpMQSBanb7gZ+OGq hJmDvTEWsWoUTCiUpJr5rGOipB7jX4fFfc8s4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:05:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Erdem_HELVACIOGLU_=2B_Per_BOYSEN_Pr=C3=A9sences_Electroniq?= =?UTF-8?Q?ue_2011_=2D_Videos?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi friends, A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been published today: http://www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 22:15:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C34D7183C33; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6puk5VP8HxkNtd7UH5noC2Eh+THo76kyS/tRuWKM3tw=; b=xFZLiBkh+1LcczHTMr6quyljGoNCiFqr2PM7CaRN39AY5zt1ji4f9VnD6SmfXnf38R zFP+426dSzHm9+7jTmO1EBWn2DNuzo6FnvBsdkj1CJindUCayBphgJoFG8G/5P2AMdog VWjxdSeSCkt4KchMXzcUegtoURDyssU/SOcuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uKCUePkphGfbKkMEAfJkHJyrHR9M8HYRLDwopq06uB20TEDFLbgE1CTtG4LTOhZLUd GdABFOnhoENe44KPnEwpwkq8aMoDTRYZJxBTs58D45QLanY18Eaj1k1MzbN2VJ3m5VTZ s+15cIygqLWSz1awEWt8D6O0H20ccXifroGS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:15:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Erdem_HELVACIOGLU_=2B_Per_BOYSEN_Pr=C3=A9sences_Electr?= =?UTF-8?Q?onique_2011_=2D_Videos?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:15:43 +0000 (UTC) 2011/6/17 Per Boysen : > > A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been published today: > > http://www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html Here's a better short link where also other festival artists videos are available: http://t.co/F73nSXH All the best Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 22:25:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64079183BA0; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4IH9O9DjJ8mc61dqDv+A0sIHG6yqm+FniECbPaYYcdA=; b=ZIUsoLipZf3LsIlwfpID6CpFlYCMdybESMnPGSnH9zEnlE4VTD38Eiwb3r1tRzCPrx F4zJueAVU94vMUHvxSzZU2Lq/cfRY48Msy0byLP6kFdgcz6++Yb9jIzM1TDHW5scx7EH Hl7FmBx5jLXUndNgiNjImNdxgB+WjNBiljzhY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kEGt99hOLvaldNS9aEsIKYRB2FSaSsRu5KG+ko9WwuC3iPxBYgT+RyF/BI1m7PV89O ItOnsjLPZrTnjedZP4V588bmXCokRXEPWDsxWeCHh/VIa5SGyP4qU3CWR3dggSY1hQVE SF5C/6Oj/6JdiksWUTo8EKYrusZ9vtsCZjpws= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7443A677-C6AB-4246-84D1-403124CB48C6@mac.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:25:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:25:23 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:54 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I have a lot of money invested in making my guitar sound good, and now it > seems like I will have to spend more to make the whole mix sound > clean/clear. > I'm wondering if it just wouldn't be easier to sample everything with > effect, then just sequence it using hardware. Maybe drop tracks to an > octatrack and do it that way. I think you should keep in mind that whatever live electronics setup you go for it must be just as playable as your guitar is - if not it will drag down your performance. The gear should not be just as good sounding but also a as playable an instrument as the guitar. At that level you will start growing amazing meta instrument chops! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 23:12:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0CE5183C21; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HurLyPLgcTzoqHPSpgGbueY/yIBIKdK0/8GWpehcxIY=; b=Wu++MDhOHhBOgJNZ3EuJQ5K9/wu1kLlDPglxJ6Kfujr+eMXWrY1t6p7UBuVMpmdwpF SwaisE33FGqKeXDhijtC3sKO0oR0IhDBn4nyi5e0rEk265FIBJt3+8i5ogoJVWQ8fwCq lMTVqP1Ai+ptdK4pVEeb9QEeaX0aZ3KG2K2TY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WiG6QJ2x4pKH5bns5unzkg10zYLyW0BVWqNkAE5aqiyk1op8s3oRg1Fi+k/3KtVAGH 1Rmvwjlzthsv/dZBOV1ZzB3Mbr/AryDCjIXO+qzDBjkpo1PD5TmWimbuI9PYiu4T9CzE udf6xpHh0BcodCSafVB/ZvJsLbGCtDIg6eMS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:12:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Controlling nextloop on EDP From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747869ab0ef4b04a5dc65df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:12:05 +0000 (UTC) --00151747869ab0ef4b04a5dc65df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Still in my quest to have ultimate control over the loops via EDP. Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control the functions of each nextloop? Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop? Can I do a feedback control on each loop? Basically, I want to fade it in or out. I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular next loop. yes, no, maybe? --00151747869ab0ef4b04a5dc65df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Still in my quest to have ultimate control over the loops via EDP.

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Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to contro= l the functions of each nextloop?=A0

Does the EDP = even allow for you to control the volume of each loop? Can I do a feedback = control on each loop? Basically, I want to fade it in or out.

I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a p= articular next loop.=A0

yes, no, maybe?
--00151747869ab0ef4b04a5dc65df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 23:26:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03D3C183B45; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xqbqf3bXPQZzRFTT7oPtoMxNZ4Zx8wKlls5Lg7Sgafg=; b=DinTN8Gu6Q3ElDaB3aOGrPJX4lE+Wt/7hOZe9JZfyzLAj22Qjsn8JCzmnWLyQ/Sg6z XSz1LRGKr7UMeRC8AV5sOcHiWjAgkq5nlmQWd275ncj+GXlM3joFTiS1ydM/RDpWt3Dd wdM20iMUirZ/l/XaLYKla1boC4NcgZSLLj92s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=p8/37RJGplpopgynJxHZ1/Dtc0w/1/LZdwJ6GVfbH6s6nyacPM4X/O84lW/3nXToq+ +J3CEfZsvLyezFxTEeW+9bIBzmbgSR7jDTf1XaR55HoezG8H1roJv2sdN8Xfdm3WQzUx fPeqXhFZdDy1xjmJvwKAueyuvpKWe+QFWMD2E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:26:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Controlling nextloop on EDP From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:26:18 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control the > functions of each nextloop? Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an EDP. Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for continuous parameters like volume and feedback. > Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop? Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a time so it wouldn't make much sense. > Can I do > a feedback control on each loop? Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think so. > Basically, I want to fade it in or out. Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to fade down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning. > I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular next loop. Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the loops in memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just one NextLoop button. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 23:35:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91116183B98; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e8UUtNs7KSB+DY9GzcpcUY5YsDIpkZXJuyMnYTxEkBs=; b=kdTXvIJtlk7TJuoU/SahdNLEmcRtnKLXNxHBegzBwy2dvNPU2W1PHreXyIuIcMvNEv az4L5bjhEAAH7pMtJjQK3JoAvhqqQbuMoQ4AmdI9WbwHgEOLQu+h0CYU5qoBAb+IALeQ kzOdtavJk3sLzHB73+eIJ4a8BKhTObhy9VuKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mP3AwTRZX4SoyZ0MhhFnMNTypPkISl3C1Yd1djuIM/7Aa5ut2qVJqBhwepUbmV9cnK p+AlHVNV1/oZkDCfok48ve1Mj1ag9Yy6fKUpNP5WWHTaif9y3HZwgqS1r640THNQwRF4 jFiJfDpe3JfcuoMeH7FlxOHM1AqnbvAhlptQc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:34:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Controlling nextloop on EDP From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530ebc98985a04a5dcb77f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:34:59 +0000 (UTC) --002354530ebc98985a04a5dcb77f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 NOOOOOO :( I think I might just give up on trying to get multi-track, controllable loops from the EDP. I essentially want to do live composition. Build up the layers, then have control over each of them (fade in/out, mute, combine with other loops). On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby > wrote: > > Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control the > > functions of each nextloop? > > Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an EDP. > Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for > continuous parameters like volume and feedback. > > > Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop? > > Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a time so > it wouldn't make much sense. > > > Can I do > > a feedback control on each loop? > > Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think so. > > > Basically, I want to fade it in or out. > > Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to fade > down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new > loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning. > > > I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular next > loop. > > Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the loops in > memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just one > NextLoop button. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --002354530ebc98985a04a5dcb77f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NOOOOOO :(

I think I might just give up on trying to get= multi-track, controllable loops from the EDP.

I e= ssentially want to do live composition.=A0Build up the layers, then have co= ntrol over each of them (fade in/out, mute, combine with other loops).

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:26 PM, P= er Boysen <perb= oysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control the<= br> > functions of each nextloop?

Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an EDP.=
Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for
continuous parameters like volume and feedback.

> Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop?
Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a ti= me so
it wouldn't make much sense.

> Can I do
> a feedback control on each loop?

Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think = so.

> Basically, I want to fade it in or out.

Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to fade<= br> down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new
loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning.

> I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular next = loop.

Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the loops i= n
memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just one
NextLoop button.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--002354530ebc98985a04a5dcb77f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 23:38:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACE20183B8E; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Wv1ewmj8ve2tFkIA25FO0HM0EC/fP9I+xRDxfeJZigU=; b=W9UCPN4JvTUdigbzE9iM9ryYiU7A2f2CAAHDpDApDfn14c7zLg1kxfxY+srPWpn9PJ LeBaBwjWdeuI17USVk/vAIkeESiKkYLTNDPh+gNOr/Iy3Sn8o4BcnEln2zlR1q73Geqx Af4f3HbaomXpH5SmvOyHKJF8cDBa5+QuxYcbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=R6MjmGjm02FBlcbGy4ENIna9xkCtQlnL37TPwnE8zJNJNzjZGyn/+j67UL/alp4wjs YJkJSDT4ToqF7O2KdA0ECiC4ZrauQXiQUhtGdEaHmaVZATVlRiJmeMVVjwfOn079JEFo T93h79CnWJnfBk5ZJBamp9POVyZ6Hrq6Ba2kw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:37:44 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WV1jnpkNgZKiBiTKU1lNYlCVwo0 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Erdem_HELVACIOGLU_=2B_Per_BOYSEN_Pr=E9sences_Electr?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?onique_2011_=2D_Videos?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3040ee54a89cc204a5dcc244 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:38:05 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3040ee54a89cc204a5dcc244 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 FANTASTIC!! Watched it all... twice!!! Dang why didnt they shoot multiple cameras... Need a pop promo? Im seeing timelapse... 2011/6/17 Per Boysen > 2011/6/17 Per Boysen : > > > > A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been published > today: > > > > > http://www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html > > > Here's a better short link where also other festival artists videos > are available: http://t.co/F73nSXH > > All the best > > Per > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf3040ee54a89cc204a5dcc244 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FANTASTIC!! Watched it all... twice!!! Dang why didnt they shoot multiple c= ameras... Need a pop promo? Im seeing timelapse...

2011/6/17 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
2011/6/17 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
>
> A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been publish= ed today:
>
> http:/= /www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2= 011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html


Here's a better short link where also other festival artists vide= os
are available: http://t.c= o/F73nSXH

All the best

Per




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--20cf3040ee54a89cc204a5dcc244-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 23:41:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D624183C26; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=fazNsWCS4zf3B4CUvTYLmMRhpkQqU+XD491fPxZuNkw=; b=cfoiF0zCkUDYMrMeplYcOiTtoYlvSO6DQJDyFB5/HZ1ZhHaYGpxfSfVqSY8Ap16bl1 6g8xoNr4ibZ/1wLnsYe0Y1ck+3zT7wLvHKIv6IWUF3dthRF4doQWlgwG/+FqU1uP8xyW IAKekY1xjggEt3LOI4oLqijgigCUWYWtqJPBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=m+SrOLG/UJJm3pjcdONX9PgtaFaHLQThrV2azrMGjlbDmGSz1DKiNRO74e+pYVLNPU 8qwzSLYAuw/lkPkNvjhN3q31dt/Qv5sssl5S2far/qQqBMuMO1OELLjnWe+iEag6NWlF qXavtAbkiug9MnecFrhkBM6FDfAp3q+uqBp2Y= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--751989313 Subject: Re: Controlling nextloop on EDP Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:41:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <352CF10B-12A9-4D75-BE3A-5B280FA963F3@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:41:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--751989313 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop? I had a weird experience the other night, when I found that the EDP was = remembering the Mute state on a per-loop basis. At least with the = settings in place at the time. Had not stumbled across it before, and it = is not behavior that I would expect. I did not go any further down that = road, but it begs the questions about other per-loop settings such as = volume... Phil On Jun 16, 2011, at 4:34 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > NOOOOOO :( >=20 > I think I might just give up on trying to get multi-track, = controllable loops from the EDP. >=20 > I essentially want to do live composition. Build up the layers, then = have control over each of them (fade in/out, mute, combine with other = loops). >=20 > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Per Boysen = wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby = wrote: > > Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control = the > > functions of each nextloop? >=20 > Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an EDP. > Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for > continuous parameters like volume and feedback. >=20 > > Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop? >=20 > Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a time so > it wouldn't make much sense. >=20 > > Can I do > > a feedback control on each loop? >=20 > Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think so. >=20 > > Basically, I want to fade it in or out. >=20 > Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to fade > down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new > loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning. >=20 > > I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular = next loop. >=20 > Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the loops in > memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just one > NextLoop button. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-6--751989313 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Does the EDP even allow = for you to control the volume of each = loop?

I had a weird experience the other night, when I found that the EDP = was remembering the Mute state on a per-loop basis. At least with the = settings in place at the time. Had not stumbled across it before, and it = is not behavior that I would expect. I did not go any further down that = road, but it begs the questions about other per-loop settings such as = volume...

Phil

On Jun 16, = 2011, at 4:34 PM, marcus kirby wrote:

NOOOOOO = :(

I think I might just give up on trying to get = multi-track, controllable loops from the EDP.

I = essentially want to do live composition. Build up the layers, then = have control over each of them (fade in/out, mute, combine with other = loops).

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:26 = PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> = wrote:
> Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control = the
> functions of each nextloop?

Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an = EDP.
Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for
continuous parameters like volume and feedback.

> Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each = loop?

Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a = time so
it wouldn't make much sense.

> Can I do
> a feedback control on each loop?

Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think = so.

> Basically, I want to fade it in or out.

Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to = fade
down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new
loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning.

> I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular = next loop.

Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the = loops in
memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just = one
NextLoop button.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



= --Apple-Mail-6--751989313-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 16 23:42:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78EE9183C2E; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=64cT1BNuz/qg09ucIekjNvWeT0fQHbqf/NLPE8dcVSg=; b=ss2HGlY1fz6BZEoBOBoxcgvUQTmIZM9MVSnXZdEkMSFHI7ajiaKvmc+A33t5aAq7vi Miwt2C/CQVDmvLecbBItD8Md6jorqoJWsnDcksk5F8oK33IOKrADtNGJuYcgv4g/2UHt vS/Qr+T87/AqKjNqvWB2rk+HyvCj1B8VNLtoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ST37WusCWUD+Cw5JtkOhIy6F2h4wgOh1UJmgXuzJTqRp8h6zclYod76RGcfzdl+Ndp LpddswDegBorQax6KtT2iTgU4WRMpEhKngzJULZl/cQxJEuMG+nHdc7NpvU7Tyk6sTmT rylhZRrV5OVRk36kbzaumLtVNVaxq9azSWU70= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:42:24 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XZdlzdGkuJj2k4epbSvQQ0VbIXQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Controlling nextloop on EDP To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8cd45ca55204a5dcd318 Resent-Message-ID: <3Wt4GC.A.zv.2Tp-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:42:47 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8cd45ca55204a5dcd318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Didnt we just go thru all that just recently.. EDP is not that kind of beast... it IS a beast tho... But yes... you can access each loop by a switch I think... Isbt that what Amy X did at SantaCruz? Sample style etc??? Not sure that many use that function... On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:34 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > NOOOOOO :( > > I think I might just give up on trying to get multi-track, controllable > loops from the EDP. > > I essentially want to do live composition. Build up the layers, then have > control over each of them (fade in/out, mute, combine with other loops). > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby >> wrote: >> > Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control the >> > functions of each nextloop? >> >> Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an EDP. >> Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for >> continuous parameters like volume and feedback. >> >> > Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop? >> >> Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a time so >> it wouldn't make much sense. >> >> > Can I do >> > a feedback control on each loop? >> >> Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think so. >> >> > Basically, I want to fade it in or out. >> >> Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to fade >> down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new >> loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning. >> >> > I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular next >> loop. >> >> Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the loops in >> memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just one >> NextLoop button. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8cd45ca55204a5dcd318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Didnt we just go thru all that just recently.. EDP is not that kind of beas= t... it IS a beast tho... But yes... you can access each loop by a switch I= think... Isbt that what Amy X did at SantaCruz? Sample style etc??? Not su= re that many use that function...




On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:34 AM,= marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
NOOOOOO :(

I think I might just give up on trying to get= multi-track, controllable loops from the EDP.

I e= ssentially want to do live composition.=A0Build up the layers, then have co= ntrol over each of them (fade in/out, mute, combine with other loops).

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:26 PM, P= er Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:=
> Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control the<= br> > functions of each nextloop?

Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an EDP.=
Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for
continuous parameters like volume and feedback.

> Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop?
Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a ti= me so
it wouldn't make much sense.

> Can I do
> a feedback control on each loop?

Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think = so.

> Basically, I want to fade it in or out.

Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to fade<= br> down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new
loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning.

> I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular next = loop.

Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the loops i= n
memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just one
NextLoop button.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub





--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8cd45ca55204a5dcd318-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 00:02:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB925183C38; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:02:19 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=gt+iDVIj1gWAJ7jvPOMaF9hF8wNrZgcN1YJ33myVhHhzoqWp0XBp5YNkU+ndUkndb2BQht2fqy9s8u170pu1EuSK7sZVqinD0nwS63lSLsmLB60jDzxlx8+kJrKJzgRL; Message-ID: <20110616185539.olak2cfmgw80cw0k@login.bluehost.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:55:39 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sound vs function References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <-rpZTC.A.eHB.Mmp-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Quoting marcus kirby : > Something like pure data looks amazing for effects, and ableton makes > perfect sense for looping. The ability throw various effects on a particular > loop, then fade that in/out with one command really entices me. > BUT: Computer-processed music always seems to always have a low-end sheen to > it. > Hi Marcus, Well, I have never used Pure Data however one of the members of the electro-music community is presenting a "Pure Data" workshop/demo on Saturday, July 23 at the Kansas City Regional Electro-music festival: http://kevinkissinger.com/kcregionalem2011.shtml Since we will stream the festival (at radio.electro-music.com) you might want to check out the demo and even submit questions/comments in the chatroom. Of course, if you are in the area -- just drop by! -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 00:33:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97E1B183C43; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eXd+iKx/omM0a+GRIo8ncJkHAl41QQHWPtFqUu2Uv4U=; b=mpy+BURQuFuYCvD7g8OfP8aY53N45GkLeyYgt/6nyfbjV/f/xXtac39ndtuMciUPdS aJEtuY32ZpPfjQEI5/S7kxtS7o2tvVoH7wHdTJf+b3CHH4iW4qXP9RZWfiTMLHATv6Y6 GeWW1gV6uMxzQUDN6P95ofpCZ6CTa74kwUHxI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GbtKxd0ZgdlgC+l3LSFLIpksaFxsCsPE0Pkd0szmO0K4QKNjCjLTPPPgvLJOM8Gphu 3ZJQCmdZutEs1dYVpVPKKl02ywLp7vPP3+ulT4r/hCrZFB+lR0UbkITXU3XJW3aX1WL4 4+8Ar4JTzCiFG/6+ARI8SFWY6Dzr2OgtbLH6A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:33:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Controlling nextloop on EDP From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c449653953d04a5dd8820 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:33:21 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c449653953d04a5dd8820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If I could access each loop by a switch, that would be close to what I'm talking about. Each loop has a trigger value, yeah? If I have two edps, I don't see why I couldn't just keep triggering particular loops and then overdubbing if I need. I think I just need to step up to an lp1, or see if the octatrack can do what I'm thinking off. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Didnt we just go thru all that just recently.. EDP is not that kind of > beast... it IS a beast tho... But yes... you can access each loop by a > switch I think... Isbt that what Amy X did at SantaCruz? Sample style etc??? > Not sure that many use that function... > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:34 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > >> NOOOOOO :( >> >> I think I might just give up on trying to get multi-track, controllable >> loops from the EDP. >> >> I essentially want to do live composition. Build up the layers, then have >> control over each of them (fade in/out, mute, combine with other loops). >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby >>> wrote: >>> > Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control the >>> > functions of each nextloop? >>> >>> Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an EDP. >>> Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for >>> continuous parameters like volume and feedback. >>> >>> > Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop? >>> >>> Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a time so >>> it wouldn't make much sense. >>> >>> > Can I do >>> > a feedback control on each loop? >>> >>> Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think so. >>> >>> > Basically, I want to fade it in or out. >>> >>> Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to fade >>> down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new >>> loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning. >>> >>> > I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular next >>> loop. >>> >>> Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the loops in >>> memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just one >>> NextLoop button. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>> >>> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --0015174c449653953d04a5dd8820 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I could access each loop by a switch, that would be close to what I'= m talking about. Each loop has a trigger value, yeah? If I have two edps, I= don't see why I couldn't just keep triggering particular loops and= then overdubbing if I need.

I think I just need to step up to an lp1, or see if the octa= track can do what I'm thinking off.=A0

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Didnt we just go thru all that just recentl= y.. EDP is not that kind of beast... it IS a beast tho... But yes... you ca= n access each loop by a switch I think... Isbt that what Amy X did at Santa= Cruz? Sample style etc??? Not sure that many use that function...





On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:34 AM,= marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
NOOOOOO :(

I think I might just give up on trying to get= multi-track, controllable loops from the EDP.

I e= ssentially want to do live composition.=A0Build up the layers, then have co= ntrol over each of them (fade in/out, mute, combine with other loops).

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:26 PM, P= er Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:=
> Is it possible to use something like the Behringer BCR to control the<= br> > functions of each nextloop?

Anything that sends MIDI notes or #CCs can be used to control an EDP.=
Best is to use note numbers for looping actions and #CCs for
continuous parameters like volume and feedback.

> Does the EDP even allow for you to control the volume of each loop?
Not sure but I don't think so. You can only hear one loop at a ti= me so
it wouldn't make much sense.

> Can I do
> a feedback control on each loop?

Do you mean fading out a loop that is not playing? I don't think = so.

> Basically, I want to fade it in or out.

Well, the only thing I can think of that for an EDP would be to fade<= br> down the volume towards the end of a loop and then switch to a new
loop and fade it back in with that loop spinning.

> I was thinking I could have each button assigned to a particular next = loop.

Bizarre - there can only be one next loop! As only one of the loops i= n
memory can play back at any given time it is well enough with just one
NextLoop button.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub





--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

--0015174c449653953d04a5dd8820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 01:19:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0120E183C1C; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=GSAOoFD7RWSZ2SIQxpqyLXyv94Yf3vIewV7sNE9gO0Q=; b=QEzc7gsDMJS1SoHrSmKLBxRXusUsbth3HiYQDhW/W0M8xDzh8FuuJoym4yDNKj+Lni 09rYSlQCzukry50q5hI9dK8tQTse5gnMCxmVcWAiBnO3yIKjb/LjEDnZ7NTMOuwvtnjA YPP7EgKREhoC8tHCvevtY47gXswhTKjT4Vk9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=c8OLjbZayOs5Xef8VuLioVk79X2RrLWnUb7Oq+w/9R00DFozNvYD5quPCkDPWXINkI ug6iHLNmBupvNl7DJrbJXX9ON5RAtLnaz7Z92SAY4oEU3hX54RR1trI9pJyqwlHjSBkc lZcG/kUPGciyWGgBa8AOoXps4MqOU7Hdhe6B8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7443A677-C6AB-4246-84D1-403124CB48C6@mac.com> References: <7443A677-C6AB-4246-84D1-403124CB48C6@mac.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:18:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b8e8b417b704a5de2bee Resent-Message-ID: <2YS72.A.AFC.Guq-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:19:02 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b8e8b417b704a5de2bee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yup, sometimes I throw my Eventide Orville in front for some amazing sound. But really, too much to carry. My RME gives me some crystal clear sound with just an Eventide pitchfactor as a preamp. I also run a mic in parallel. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > > BUT: Computer-processed music always seems to always have a low-end sheen > to it. > > > > WHAT TO DO? > > > Invest in high end analog gear for the input path. And if you really want > to full tilt boogie into the best of both worlds, get into summing analog > stem mixes at output. > > --00151747b8e8b417b704a5de2bee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup, sometimes I throw my Eventide Orville in front for some amazing sound.= =A0But really, too much to carry. =A0My RME gives me some crystal clear so= und with just an Eventide pitchfactor as a preamp. I also run a mic in para= llel. =A0

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Daniel Thom= as <danieltho= mas4@mac.com> wrote:
> BUT: Computer-processed music always seems to always= have a low-end sheen to it.
>
> WHAT TO DO?


Invest in high end analog gear for the input path. And if you really = want to full tilt boogie into the best of both worlds, get into summing ana= log stem mixes at output.



--00151747b8e8b417b704a5de2bee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 01:22:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2743183C24; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=mFFrju4PaZ3sLvgUxYLFFxgo37sTLlwwMMJ+UXfPuJw=; b=nEXU6U/lVoRtYwbJ6GrjWl8TH0pYEqzfOtcVitoQq+qAk1L9Fwntr3b8OL5B7x/zaH L0aECUmldGeLNDsWi06z3DnL1YT5mthLs+g5OI2dp2iuJGOIKDB2EQILACQrlPEzlFcn JH8jWI9iDq3FpueEmlMG6r5PWnhOLwFgegCPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=g5gyDHdPjL2tSqh3wldUh+6Uitd5FOv36BLu/58Xwo2I5ZMSz/FcR+egNENLa/Edna eEeyugW1cGcvxVCwAv2vMdste1rp5VjxNoKF0OCfc2gNWTubZIcAsNQcTsES23uHU6bu sJPNtvXth/Vqn5x03ohNDlop20dHa40KSQYRA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7443A677-C6AB-4246-84D1-403124CB48C6@mac.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:21:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517402910886a3004a5de3639 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:22:05 +0000 (UTC) --001517402910886a3004a5de3639 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second Per's statement. In answer to your question, easier ? I don't think so. What could be easier than having an entire recording studio at your finger tips for live performance? I acknowledge the hardware/software proclivities resident on our list, and I don't think either one is 'better' than the other, however, when 'easy' comes into the conversation, the carrying and ability to avoid import/export scenarios wins out for me. Hop= e that's helpful. Todd On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:54 PM, marcus kirby > wrote: > > I have a lot of money invested in making my guitar sound good, and now = it > > seems like I will have to spend more to make the whole mix sound > > clean/clear. > > I'm wondering if it just wouldn't be easier to sample everything with > > effect, then just sequence it using hardware. Maybe drop tracks to an > > octatrack and do it that way. > > > I think you should keep in mind that whatever live electronics setup > you go for it must be just as playable as your guitar is - if not it > will drag down your performance. The gear should not be just as good > sounding but also a as playable an instrument as the guitar. At that > level you will start growing amazing meta instrument chops! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --001517402910886a3004a5de3639 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second Per's statement. In answer to your question, easier ? =A0I don= 't think so. =A0What could be easier than having an entire recording st= udio at your finger tips for live performance? =A0I acknowledge the hardwar= e/software proclivities resident on our list, and I don't think either = one is 'better' than the other, however, when 'easy' comes = into the conversation, =A0the carrying and ability to avoid import/export s= cenarios wins out for me. =A0Hope that's helpful.=A0

Todd



On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote= :
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1= 0:54 PM, marcus kirby <marcuslo= ops@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a lot of money invested in making my guitar sound good, and now= it
> seems like I will have to spend more to make the whole mix sound
> clean/clear.
> I'm wondering if it just wouldn't be easier to sample everythi= ng with
> effect, then just sequence it using hardware. Maybe drop tracks to an<= br> > octatrack and do it that way.


I think you should keep in mind that whatever live electronics setup<= br> you go for it must be just as playable as your guitar is - if not it
will drag down your performance. The gear should not be just as good
sounding but also a as playable an instrument as the guitar. At that
level you will start growing amazing meta instrument chops!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--001517402910886a3004a5de3639-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 01:30:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3BF7183C13; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BB/BHYNEx1YeVVHecQvLkv5x8Asw1W9M4NN/FDbdvWY=; b=IGwxWxBudiQ6PY9qyigKXJkxKoSuRyp6lJvK/M1nilzSX4WfzoHrnKT0VIvpOo/Qt6 uIaMIWD/X9YQnWnJoKDKkhvJufpMIbWhw///38VSNPpRFovNgS8YypkL98VTXQP/4ALx ZqS7c66eHElj1OBc7pnezIXoDMVqI+xm3J/4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QPZfsgBm/QHJ9fFWiu4ZsNfo/YNlJEeTbTHmyhBTJXlujyeoV0pVbjhQC8W9xoDP1O OA9XPd+44/YPeYrB8AkoxDKvfRQ/vZBDKbigN8P7UJTZKpxn/WVWTU1JPAK3USWnZGiQ W4kfBv6NR2Za5ATQKor5Ycj724mvhryfywyDg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:30:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-9F0X.A.xYC.G5q-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Todd congratulations. I'm mobil but will check the track later. You are inspiring! Jim On 6/15/11, richard sales wrote: > Very nice, Todd! > > Richard Sales > Sent from my IPad > www.glasswing.com > > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > >> I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't hav= e >> streaming yet), of Transamerica. >> >> http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica >> >> I do hope you enjoy. >> >> All the best, >> >> Todd >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds wrot= e: >> Hi folks. >> >> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope you >> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy. >> >> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the firs= t >> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden for the >> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... >> >> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as part o= f >> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... >> >> http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-class= icals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far >> >> Thanks for indulging. I don't have it set up for free streaming yet, bu= t >> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. >> >> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. Lovin' all this U2 lovin= ' >> n hatin'. good convos of late. >> >> Todd >> >> >> -- >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >> >> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available whereve= r >> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >> >> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available whereve= r >> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> http://toddreynolds.com >> http://twitter.com/digifiddler >> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic >> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds >> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >> >> >> > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 01:30:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5363183C1F; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=dmp+3RGH7AiI9K+yySH8eIzLOR4mV61lObQsmk/XBEI=; b=oxBaIrSKc0NdomjKKXSHDkNueNHZAW9ge7aEZYGSoUE+VSR7ZEGIpxOXf9CbmZ4ujy qx2En/2uyHfvTpF+bsmJ5i4vQuOGe9DaMcRAZsoSK02FL+VSRYIRwTZiRrZWdfeEaZFt QHSKVWQZ1XZDRvi+ERyFlC9rNX3a8oE/xSyj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=tSKO63+46WBaFq/krDKMJ549EY0as2n1uxU62pg0KsSc9/UpIAkImw6lvmpKYKoiNf IcKiNsJGzAXi69n6ToZMQf1p2MGG+ODrX8Iw8yl1nMLXyBwhv1aGqPaXBj7SMK29+R9k 21bKCTSEMi0jK26oZuMWuKIli05CLikfarCQs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110616185539.olak2cfmgw80cw0k@login.bluehost.com> References: <20110616185539.olak2cfmgw80cw0k@login.bluehost.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:30:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174764b4d3a46904a5de559d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:30:49 +0000 (UTC) --0015174764b4d3a46904a5de559d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pure Data is the free, openly available DNA of Max/MSP, which is now available as an integrated part of Ableton Live. Live and Max for LIve are NOT free, lol. However, the two in tandem are pretty much the most powerful combination available, IMHO, and easily accomplish what you've cited below. Yes, do check out the demo of Pure Data for sure! > Hi Marcus, > > Well, I have never used Pure Data however one of the members of the > electro-music community is presenting a "Pure Data" workshop/demo on > Saturday, July 23 at the Kansas City Regional Electro-music festival: > > http://kevinkissinger.com/**kcregionalem2011.shtml > > Since we will stream the festival (at radio.electro-music.com) you might > want to check out the demo and even submit questions/comments in the > chatroom. > > Of course, if you are in the area -- just drop by! > > -- Kevin > > --0015174764b4d3a46904a5de559d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pure Data is the free, openly available DNA of Max/MSP, which is now availa= ble as an integrated part of Ableton Live. =A0Live and Max for LIve =A0are = NOT free, lol. However, =A0the two in tandem are pretty much the most power= ful combination available, IMHO, and easily accomplish what you've cite= d below. =A0

Yes, do check out the demo of Pure Data for sure! =A0
 --0015174764b4d3a46904a5de559d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 02:05:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9357F183C13; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6HHxPibnXsgmhf6+XNzoy+q4/QtXGt3TR+tXpyggxz0=; b=hzS0B1+eGZDLVRH3JlDHcmJAW6g8+dU8VXuA0CYXJxzPn0fwHaHvLgU6lgO9EWuE61 OREwn+Q7BuEsV9Us5A9kIWPCBwmUHMu9QiHQVFDFgZx8JoU3WGAjhZk77Zd2zYCSQtfw bs64Y0Z9jsmCQwq+ewqUgLT/N4L+WrHrXiMek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GfHFRWu8iAPsdASm8GqEdoin/foEzzS+B9fJ18ai2ASFYVwOsdHH567VG0ogqj8zH3 bE7EcILzuOSBvIRi2W7oK9fT2hkFa5SXVToO/6JAhh0+lCdSysgt0Yx8v/zULZgSygZ0 HiVoxnPeabSiBfpNsOwqEzo1hKhlDlCTMv+pY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:05:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Erdem_HELVACIOGLU_=2B_Per_BOYSEN_Pr=E9sences_Electr?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?onique_2011_=2D_Videos?= From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Nice! Was that the gig you guys did in quadraphonic or surround sound? Sylvain 2011/6/16 Per Boysen : > 2011/6/17 Per Boysen : >> >> A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been published today: >> >> http://www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html > > > Here's a better short link where also other festival artists videos > are available: http://t.co/F73nSXH > > All the best > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 02:08:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 898FB183C18; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=qAsljOiZyZgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=jPJDawAOAc8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=_PdZ3UkZAAAA:8 a=_LYQRSZWAAAA:20 a=60TEFSPjgZh533oNbxgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=hUVfm6KHxBQA:10 a=G6L6ELNG4goA:10 a=yU6HcyknPGQA:10 a=EA0soNeZk-8A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <34866DB6-B9EF-4A10-A563-B55E70362622@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Erdem_HELVACIOGLU_+_Per_BOYSEN_Pr=E9sences_El?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ectronique_2011_-_Videos?= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:08:19 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Fabulous Per and Erdem (as usual). I watched it twice too. On Jun 16, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > 2011/6/17 Per Boysen : >> >> A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been >> published today: >> >> http://www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html > > > Here's a better short link where also other festival artists videos > are available: http://t.co/F73nSXH > > All the best > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 02:25:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12E95183C25; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VmT0U/G9k0tCjMjG4RAL/mCWqee44y+emJbBxp4WtVE=; b=vOcdW9veOInOQctD8mh8L+KgpNMWNGrNNcWG30Vx4cEmIGTYd6g8467SqeGWPHjb3b 9fVPBIioS9Mk8mQcqQNkDirvjDEQtYZsgcar9A/OwRTTv6fPtDentZZGo4VRaBG7D9j+ ApsDLM8Hvi0Fma+RqD7qp7333LmK+egwV6kr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WIP6d5A8OoeKxMK2tYA0XoGEL6vw9l2GBEG/9mTAMsaXzl2J+FMuKDMq+6POxOovxc NGNsF6VXrBM7dE7X0Ong2G6BKZ42txdcU8rcio+I0Hpiug4xtQYXOSgbPykfbLYMOlQK bOr4yyAg/M9cNY/frRkZV6P4ckUwRa11E+Yeg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:25:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:25:45 +0000 (UTC) The track sounds great Todd! I'll re-listen often! On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Todd congratulations. I'm mobil but will check the track later. You > are inspiring! > Jim > > On 6/15/11, richard sales wrote: >> Very nice, Todd! >> >> Richard Sales >> Sent from my IPad >> www.glasswing.com >> >> >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds wrote: >> >>> I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't ha= ve >>> streaming yet), of Transamerica. >>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica >>> >>> I do hope you enjoy. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds wro= te: >>> Hi folks. >>> >>> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope you >>> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy. >>> >>> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the fir= st >>> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden for th= e >>> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... >>> >>> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as part = of >>> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... >>> >>> http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-clas= sicals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far >>> >>> Thanks for indulging. =A0I don't have it set up for free streaming yet,= but >>> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. >>> >>> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. =A0Lovin' all this U2 lo= vin' >>> n hatin'. =A0good convos of late. >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> -- >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >>> >>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherev= er >>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >>> >>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherev= er >>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D >>> http://toddreynolds.com >>> http://twitter.com/digifiddler >>> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic >>> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >>> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds >>> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n & > Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 02:55:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC848183C16; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Sound vs function Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:55:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 02:55:15 +0000 (UTC) As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck in hardware mode and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, but there are few hardware choices available that can do multiple loops and mine, the LP-1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has been discontinued. When the time comes for me to move to software I will still continue to use a small hardware front end and smaller floor looper as both a safety net and also because I still prefer analog, even solid state over modeling for guitar tones. To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a scant two channels of guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channel with an extra boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker emulator output, so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run direct. Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really see putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. Right now I tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and honestly I like the fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and other effects are easy to change on the fly, the frustration I have found with all in one modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have tended to be when needing to change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To much bass for the room? what are you going to do, tweak every preset you have created each time you move to a new one? i think the new modeling amp choices are much better than when I was using them , and they have addressed a number of these issues, but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of endless menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and learning new platforms is time not making music, and currently I'm more interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet have not proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think i'd keep as much analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a combo of Abelton and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said so, and because Jeff Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , and what ever cool plugs I could get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. I'd start with some Expert Sleepers stuff, because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd become an absolute pest to many of you on this list. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:15:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18BEC183C13; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=evqY2ZE4ONxNCoVIagOQBGiizyH1wWa6TUBRaIveW6I=; b=LVy9CTqeCdrqlBtF0LCww5TrR0gf8vKAaguVowap1dCh0IkNG0+OYbaUJtvGcoUiwK JDpgYlZOB5w5a0ut5VpxUrlaRnJYhupq8+V2HmmhqyBHeENXaiByLP3Fx1JhFOnsBt7P DJdgRh2DYK9WesoFcdaCR80u307IPAGXhPMK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fFfsw0p8oMVZ2YxwaeBGfxzP4zJhLnNZhmPgVUTOxIqw1wuI8GxEXpFRtJhJr/xIGk npd9avbpFCDyaeWQ5Eu8R3AA6J6qSaoPZPr9hsTpwyVwBs3j0T5W0KoBaE3tz0wy6cT2 np0ZzlZsxVJnVt4MkWsDh6Iqm9POf65MwvKsI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001201cc2bdd$c73dbaa0$55b92fe0$@michaelplishka.com> References: <001201cc2bdd$c73dbaa0$55b92fe0$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:15:14 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portalooper From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 seconds ... Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:27 PM, wrote: > Jeff, > > Thanks for the set-up =A0ideas for gigging in a tight space.=A0 I like it= ! > > > > Mike > > > > From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:55 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: portalooper > > > > Hey Mike, > > When I am tight for space I will feed my M9 into my DD 20 for an amazingl= y > versatile setup. > > I could get by with just the M9 easily and you have all of the effects in= it > to use before or after the looper! It has all of your preferences covered= . > > best, > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:19:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 633A0183C0D; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZYjkCtI3F3ITE68W9NTxchz5YW40fQlsvpxb8/faFU8=; b=MpUYYOF4RMXjDycJsJITuwZFJjVOpOyQAcCCV6GxquSNHdvvupRNQXgCcKBRDEinLn zNYM+l2Rp7n/KErdC4FiskcnFRm9B9rt5Q2H2bzknNeMvd/qv358XPqXIWfa0iaXP/6L lJedFGWk7fS+XLV+FP7VRMahBnhoTEdBXtjCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MrPj1LwzUJkInkvePqRRrKVlho5MubrYpXkFxjkfk20g8w/cDke3RedZTQ0TMPQIHm lRTMaupEO8+OYDNgGg3VyqVCvyed0catRF552C6mDNrJheZ1UtQmqHWvJtlCc5V5cdSA t9pzEznapjwTlt/ZLvOXgnXqPkxVQFu2NFfmY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:19:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5171ed5f0ed3204a5dfd999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:19:20 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5171ed5f0ed3204a5dfd999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd checking out now. This is excellent! Really like the unrest and urba= n yet huge beat feel of this. Your sparse viol in there amongst all the processing is really cool in the opening moments. The more acoustic moment= s remind me a lot of Darol [Anger] then you've got this happening beat thing going on. Sorry to turn in to a mini-review but dig it! On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > The track sounds great Todd! I'll re-listen often! > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > > Todd congratulations. I'm mobil but will check the track later. You > > are inspiring! > > Jim > > > > On 6/15/11, richard sales wrote: > >> Very nice, Todd! > >> > >> Richard Sales > >> Sent from my IPad > >> www.glasswing.com > >> > >> > >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds wrote= : > >> > >>> I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't > have > >>> streaming yet), of Transamerica. > >>> > >>> http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica > >>> > >>> I do hope you enjoy. > >>> > >>> All the best, > >>> > >>> Todd > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds > wrote: > >>> Hi folks. > >>> > >>> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope yo= u > >>> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy. > >>> > >>> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the > first > >>> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden for > the > >>> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... > >>> > >>> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as par= t > of > >>> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... > >>> > >>> > http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-classi= cals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far > >>> > >>> Thanks for indulging. I don't have it set up for free streaming yet, > but > >>> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. > >>> > >>> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. Lovin' all this U2 > lovin' > >>> n hatin'. good convos of late. > >>> > >>> Todd > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > >>> > >>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wher= ever > >>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > >>> > >>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wher= ever > >>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. > >>> > >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D > >>> http://toddreynolds.com > >>> http://twitter.com/digifiddler > >>> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > >>> http://blog.toddreynolds.com > >>> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > >>> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim > Goodin & > > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > > Check out the brand new video for "You"! > www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec5171ed5f0ed3204a5dfd999 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd checking out now. =A0This is excellent! =A0Really like the unrest and = urban yet huge beat feel of this. =A0Your sparse viol in there amongst all = the processing is really cool in the opening moments. =A0The more acoustic = moments remind me a lot of Darol [Anger] then you've got this happening= beat thing going on. =A0Sorry to turn in to a mini-review but dig it!

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jean-Paul = De Roover <j.= de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd congratulations. I'm mobil but will check the track later. Yo= u
> are inspiring!
> Jim
>
> On 6/15/11, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
>> Very nice, Todd!
>>
>> Richard Sales
>> Sent from my IPad
>> www.glasswi= ng.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I= don't have
>>> streaming yet), of Transamerica.
>>>
>>> http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica
>>>
>>> I do hope you enjoy.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi folks.
>>>
>>> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I = hope you
>>> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy.
>>>
>>> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transame= rica, the first
>>> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter = Garden for the
>>> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... >>>
>>> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention,= as part of
>>> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far...
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-classi= cals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far
>>>
>>> Thanks for indulging. =A0I don't have it set up for free s= treaming yet, but
>>> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it.<= br> >>>
>>> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. =A0Lovin' a= ll this U2 lovin'
>>> n hatin'. =A0good convos of late.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here.
>>>
>>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now ava= ilable wherever
>>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here.
>>>
>>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now ava= ilable wherever
>>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.
>>>
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> http://t= oddreynolds.com
>>> h= ttp://twitter.com/digifiddler
>>> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic
>>> htt= p://blog.toddreynolds.com
>>> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds
>>> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin &
> Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
>
> wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
>
>



--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpauld= eroover.com
(807) 251-3376<= /a>

Check out the brand new video for "You"!
= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc




--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec5171ed5f0ed3204a5dfd999-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:19:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ADB6183C16; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Sound vs function References: From: richard sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1B73FA79-C546-491B-8357-AE63294F2A83@glasswing.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:20:51 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Gotta LOVE that Ethos! It saved me recently in Japan. Had to play thru an a= lien amp - Vox AC30 6TBX. A little twirling of the Ethos and... Ta Dah! Ba= ck in Kansas! And today, my old Marshall 50 watt died (bad power tubes I th= ink) so I had to use my Magnatone for Strat, which is usually too swampy and= dark. A little twirling of the Ethos and... snare roll... on the money Str= at tone! =20 Haven't used it direct yet, but thru amps it is worth five times what they c= ost. Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 16, 2011, at 7:55 PM, William Walker wrote: > As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck in hardware mode a= nd I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, but there are= few hardware choices available that can do multiple loops and mine, the LP= -1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has been discontinued= . When the time comes for me to move to software I will still continue to us= e a small hardware front end and smaller floor looper as both a safety net a= nd also because I still prefer analog, even solid state over modeling for g= uitar tones. To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a scant two channe= ls of guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channel with an extra boo= st on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker emulator output, s= o I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run direct. Its like a dumb= le amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have played a few in my time. E= ffects are another matter as i can really see putting a lap top to good use w= ith both pre and post effects. Right now I tend to have my effects pre loop w= hen playing live and honestly I like the fact that my ethos and M-9 and tim= efactor and other effects are easy to change on the fly, the frustration I h= ave found with all in one modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have tend= ed to be when needing to change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To muc= h bass for the room? what are you going to do, tweak every preset you have c= reated each time you move to a new one? i think the new modeling amp choice= s are much better than when I was using them , and they have addressed a num= ber of these issues, but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my ears. Pl= us I'm a bit tired of endless menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing eff= ects parameters and learning new platforms is time not making music, and cu= rrently I'm more interested in making music with the tools I have, which as o= f yet have not proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think i'd ke= ep as much analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a combo= of Abelton and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said so, and becau= se Jeff Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , and what ever cool plugs I= could get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. I'd start with= some Expert Sleepers stuff, because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd becom= e an absolute pest to many of you on this list. > Bill >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:27:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD225183C1C; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QEwoEt92rV6jxgfsDyyqHP69gJyohSg7xPOIJRBZrnA=; b=Ym+WJ8GACC/AqyA5od4GDnrAo5qSJTc4a2iGdI7G/HvdzSaesoL4y2LlZkaV1f3QL7 FbiCitDtfktrQpv3zfzB7bpdF4bhI4oF/h/4q3Z9jgNyJxBTUUXGpE24YMfQZEpaSBdA n6gy3WS4p4z2j4xjbjqU9smGyDHzN8qKHVJa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GNHQrsHLzGsmxuNcrQcJcQ/T3xu2ujGfqRj/r5pLrr1UHtUBzzJl2Uph1MXeFUy9jl umQASCUsLXAgr/5AAeIan7LWT2DLDGYmaZ1g5XPJDbfh+ZV04Lgcfw2CetislurNheda zf38guuP52ZOnp8ULFBfvqeWzU98FNRRUymTQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:27:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747885c1a922504a5dff69a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:27:13 +0000 (UTC) --00151747885c1a922504a5dff69a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I already have an ableton template setup, so I won't have to bother people too often :) I had a few methods going, but ran back to hardware because of latency and sound quality: 1) Running guitar + effects +tube buffer -> MOTU ultralite -> monitors. If I went this route I'd have to get better front end, analog equipment. Tube pre-amps, compressor, blah blah. I'd have to do this for mic/drum machine/synth as well. It would essentially be a portable studio. That's a lot of money and weight to be carrying around the streets of Chicago. Although I hve 2) Run guitar through tube buffer and di -> MOTU ultralite -> channel 1 on mackie, repeat for each instrument (vox on motu channel 2, and channel 2 f the mixer). I apply my hardware reverb/filters/delays via auxes on the mackie. This hurts my head. I just want to make music...but the technology that I need isn't quite there. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:55 PM, William Walker wrote: > As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck in hardware mode > and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, but there > are few hardware choices available that can do multiple loops and mine, the > LP-1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has been > discontinued. When the time comes for me to move to software I will still > continue to use a small hardware front end and smaller floor looper as both > a safety net and also because I still prefer analog, even solid state over > modeling for guitar tones. To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a > scant two channels of guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channel > with an extra boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker > emulator output, so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run > direct. Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have > played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really see > putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. Right now I > tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and honestly I like the > fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and other effects are easy to > change on the fly, the frustration I have found with all in one > modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have tended to be when needing to > change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To much bass for the room? what > are you going to do, tweak every preset you have created each time you move > to a new one? i think the new modeling amp choices are much better than > when I was using them , and they have addressed a number of these issues, > but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of > endless menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and > learning new platforms is time not making music, and currently I'm more > interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet have not > proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think i'd keep as much > analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a combo of Abelton > and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said so, and because Jeff > Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , and what ever cool plugs I could > get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. I'd start with some > Expert Sleepers stuff, because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd become an > absolute pest to many of you on this list. > Bill > > --00151747885c1a922504a5dff69a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I already have an ableton template setup, so I won't have to bother peo= ple too often :)

I had a few methods going, but ran back= to hardware because of latency and sound quality:

1) Running guitar + effects +tube buffer -> MOTU ultralite -> monitor= s. If I went this route I'd have to get better front end, analog equipm= ent. Tube pre-amps, compressor, blah blah. I'd have to do this for mic/= drum machine/synth as well. It would essentially be a portable studio. That= 's a lot of money and weight to be carrying around the streets of Chica= go. Although I hve

2) Run guitar through tube buffer and di -> MOTU ult= ralite -> channel 1 on mackie, repeat for each instrument (vox on motu c= hannel 2, and channel 2 f the mixer). I apply my hardware reverb/filters/de= lays via auxes on the mackie.=A0

This hurts my head. I just want to make music...but the= technology that I need isn't quite there.


On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:55 PM,= William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, =A0= I'm still stuck in hardware mode and I'm able to do what you want w= ith out involving a computer, but there are few hardware choices available = that can do multiple loops and mine, =A0the LP-1 is currently out of produc= tion and the roland rc 50 has been discontinued. When the time comes for me= to move to software I will still continue to use a small hardware front en= d and smaller floor looper =A0as both a safety net and also because I still= prefer analog, even solid state over =A0modeling for guitar tones. To wit,= my Custom Tones =A0Ethos preamp offers a scant two channels of guitar tone= , essentially a clean and a dirty channel with an extra boost on the dirty = channel, but it has an excellent speaker emulator output, =A0so I can get g= reat guitar tones even if I have to run direct. Its like a dumble amp in a = box, and I'm fortunate enough to have played a few in my time. =A0Effec= ts are another matter as i can really see putting a lap top to good use wit= h both pre and post effects. Right now I tend to have my effects pre loop w= hen playing live =A0and honestly I like the fact that my ethos and M-9 and = timefactor and other effects are easy to change on the fly, the frustration= I have found with all in one modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have= tended to be when needing to change eq and parameter settings on the fly. = To much bass for the room? what are you going to do, tweak every preset you= have created each time you move to a new one? =A0i think the new modeling = amp choices are much better than when I was using them , and they have addr= essed a number of these issues, but they still feel and sound a bit flat to= my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of endless menus, and LCD screens. Time = spent editing effects parameters and learning new platforms =A0is time not = making music, and currently I'm more interested in making music with th= e tools I have, which as of yet have not proved limiting. =A0So if I was ma= king the leap, I think i'd keep as much analog front end as possible, b= ut keep it simple, and use a combo of Abelton =A0and Mobius, becaues cool p= eople in the =A0know said so, and because Jeff Larson has a dog almost as c= ute as mine , =A0and what ever cool plugs I could get my hands on, I would = start to integrate...slowly. =A0I'd start with some Expert Sleepers stu= ff, =A0because Os makes cool plugins, =A0 and I'd become an absolute pe= st to many of you on this list.
=A0Bill


--00151747885c1a922504a5dff69a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:27:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E40183C24; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MZHMc0EjWq6NNP/nN0wUtF+ijuV9DPYwGAU6nkrtGy8=; b=abA/HERi19HaNz22wCYyZqRjrvpApqpe8VrztTyxDVI2azchhimtgaviO/dA864w5A E1AQEL3JqG+C1gCGdX7kFwXiH6ZrhjeJwNW1B9MYAbySndTQTIXscPRzceLv0wlXPSki ugpx5yMTNZtk41i4umhtvHQo3Z23sfqObosZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pIabLqMtlB2o9J2Lsz+8J6qL1CcjvSPmadLY50iIs1mdaahOdEO3ztHb71wJCel+x9 eiJNxuV0ozJkBfdieRGuOjizaxl3roFzBUzVfMlST9D6by8UVQeee8WFTWWYaBzbqB85 ig6zMj0tgbktm/yDNTkzEe5BHnOv7mVB5c8w8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:27:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Erdem_HELVACIOGLU_=2B_Per_BOYSEN_Pr=E9sences_Electr?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?onique_2011_=2D_Videos?= From: Tim Clement To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fd4f9eacf2604a5dff70e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:27:43 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fd4f9eacf2604a5dff70e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe to Loopers Delight....? 2011/6/16 Per Boysen > Hi friends, > > A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been published > today: > > > http://www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- *Tim Clement* phone: 416.536.8172 mobile: 647.832.8172 fax: 416.519.1816 --90e6ba3fd4f9eacf2604a5dff70e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe to Loopers Delight....?

2011/6/16 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Hi friends,

A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been published to= day:

http://www.= chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_w= atch-video-rdhvdv.html

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
Tim Clement
phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172
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--90e6ba3fd4f9eacf2604a5dff70e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:29:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50CFB183C35; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DFACA23.5030607@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:29:39 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Sound vs function References: <20110616185539.olak2cfmgw80cw0k@login.bluehost.com> In-Reply-To: <20110616185539.olak2cfmgw80cw0k@login.bluehost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7mLM4B.A.jzE.pos-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:29:46 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Something like pure data looks amazing for effects I cannot talk about it in any detail, but some truly amazing stuff and groudbreaking things are coming down the road in DSP processing for people who can use Pure Data. Sorry to tease, but I"m very excited about the possibilities. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:29:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E8AA183C46; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VFKPSJ/sC8XsY/2G9AZIRB3vqKwz3eQ+0LQRyTu9Jc8=; b=jMpO/5TOAnGC4nNxm7A1ZHpTQN2yQUu0u0rsdEQ+fSy+PB73GVu+RA3FmybXG6vm9y Jf7etSb5TPJn7VfESQtYbnuidoomMykFJzwMU7R+durRG+c6l5sPJo5afZ8qagOckB1X 5HMHMcOqAhgNQZ/DNXlBr98JEiwKgArk6GHz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ClFqtGtnQO4MbI+cIEt1Jwh4UT+agxL63vj4pblgbTQHd4TdiFMHtyO9fXv1pe2KhM Di7oePPuPrwEsxkRg0dFgbr8tHYrV6HGsQqpoMD6NA4z0awHfV/5puCSpfRJZxh0LFfA J/hC8zfrkzpzLI7o/1ubM7MTYFh6zqmwyUsE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:29:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174485fc8fdb5804a5dfff86 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:29:52 +0000 (UTC) --0015174485fc8fdb5804a5dfff86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What about running the laptop through the aux of my hardware mixer? I might try that. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I already have an ableton template setup, so I won't have to bother people > too often :) > > I had a few methods going, but ran back to hardware because of latency and > sound quality: > > 1) Running guitar + effects +tube buffer -> MOTU ultralite -> monitors. If > I went this route I'd have to get better front end, analog equipment. Tube > pre-amps, compressor, blah blah. I'd have to do this for mic/drum > machine/synth as well. It would essentially be a portable studio. That's a > lot of money and weight to be carrying around the streets of Chicago. > Although I hve > > 2) Run guitar through tube buffer and di -> MOTU ultralite -> channel 1 on > mackie, repeat for each instrument (vox on motu channel 2, and channel 2 f > the mixer). I apply my hardware reverb/filters/delays via auxes on the > mackie. > > This hurts my head. I just want to make music...but the technology that I > need isn't quite there. > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:55 PM, William Walker wrote: > >> As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck in hardware mode >> and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, but there >> are few hardware choices available that can do multiple loops and mine, the >> LP-1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has been >> discontinued. When the time comes for me to move to software I will still >> continue to use a small hardware front end and smaller floor looper as both >> a safety net and also because I still prefer analog, even solid state over >> modeling for guitar tones. To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a >> scant two channels of guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channel >> with an extra boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker >> emulator output, so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run >> direct. Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have >> played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really see >> putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. Right now I >> tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and honestly I like the >> fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and other effects are easy to >> change on the fly, the frustration I have found with all in one >> modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have tended to be when needing to >> change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To much bass for the room? what >> are you going to do, tweak every preset you have created each time you move >> to a new one? i think the new modeling amp choices are much better than >> when I was using them , and they have addressed a number of these issues, >> but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of >> endless menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and >> learning new platforms is time not making music, and currently I'm more >> interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet have not >> proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think i'd keep as much >> analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a combo of Abelton >> and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said so, and because Jeff >> Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , and what ever cool plugs I could >> get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. I'd start with some >> Expert Sleepers stuff, because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd become an >> absolute pest to many of you on this list. >> Bill >> >> > --0015174485fc8fdb5804a5dfff86 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What about running the laptop through the aux of my hardware mixer?
I might try that.

On Thu, Jun= 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
I already have an ableton template setup, s= o I won't have to bother people too often :)

I had a= few methods going, but ran back to hardware because of latency and sound q= uality:

1) Running guitar + effects +tube buffer -> MOTU ultralite -> monitor= s. If I went this route I'd have to get better front end, analog equipm= ent. Tube pre-amps, compressor, blah blah. I'd have to do this for mic/= drum machine/synth as well. It would essentially be a portable studio. That= 's a lot of money and weight to be carrying around the streets of Chica= go. Although I hve

2) Run guitar through tube buffer and di -> MOTU ult= ralite -> channel 1 on mackie, repeat for each instrument (vox on motu c= hannel 2, and channel 2 f the mixer). I apply my hardware reverb/filters/de= lays via auxes on the mackie.=A0

This hurts my head. I just want to make music...but the= technology that I need isn't quite there.



On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:55 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.c= om> wrote:
As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, =A0I= 'm still stuck in hardware mode and I'm able to do what you want wi= th out involving a computer, but there are few hardware choices available t= hat can do multiple loops and mine, =A0the LP-1 is currently out of product= ion and the roland rc 50 has been discontinued. When the time comes for me = to move to software I will still continue to use a small hardware front end= and smaller floor looper =A0as both a safety net and also because I still = prefer analog, even solid state over =A0modeling for guitar tones. To wit, = my Custom Tones =A0Ethos preamp offers a scant two channels of guitar tone,= essentially a clean and a dirty channel with an extra boost on the dirty c= hannel, but it has an excellent speaker emulator output, =A0so I can get gr= eat guitar tones even if I have to run direct. Its like a dumble amp in a b= ox, and I'm fortunate enough to have played a few in my time. =A0Effect= s are another matter as i can really see putting a lap top to good use with= both pre and post effects. Right now I tend to have my effects pre loop wh= en playing live =A0and honestly I like the fact that my ethos and M-9 and t= imefactor and other effects are easy to change on the fly, the frustration = I have found with all in one modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have = tended to be when needing to change eq and parameter settings on the fly. T= o much bass for the room? what are you going to do, tweak every preset you = have created each time you move to a new one? =A0i think the new modeling a= mp choices are much better than when I was using them , and they have addre= ssed a number of these issues, but they still feel and sound a bit flat to = my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of endless menus, and LCD screens. Time s= pent editing effects parameters and learning new platforms =A0is time not m= aking music, and currently I'm more interested in making music with the= tools I have, which as of yet have not proved limiting. =A0So if I was mak= ing the leap, I think i'd keep as much analog front end as possible, bu= t keep it simple, and use a combo of Abelton =A0and Mobius, becaues cool pe= ople in the =A0know said so, and because Jeff Larson has a dog almost as cu= te as mine , =A0and what ever cool plugs I could get my hands on, I would s= tart to integrate...slowly. =A0I'd start with some Expert Sleepers stuf= f, =A0because Os makes cool plugins, =A0 and I'd become an absolute pes= t to many of you on this list.
=A0Bill



--0015174485fc8fdb5804a5dfff86-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:34:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75753183C40; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ypnsiBEla71VAGsyAnAfbA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-16_10:2011-06-16,2011-06-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=21 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106160270 From: Toby Graves Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Erdem_HELVACIOGLU_+_Per_BOYSEN_Pr=E9sences_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Electronique_2011_-_Videos?= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:34:02 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <169EAEF7-6E98-41DB-8F18-42672E74E1E2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:34:35 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_ypnsiBEla71VAGsyAnAfbA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ask Leinhos. t On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Tim Clement wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe to Loopers Delight....? > > 2011/6/16 Per Boysen > Hi friends, > > A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been published today: > > http://www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > > -- > Tim Clement > phone: 416.536.8172 > mobile: 647.832.8172 > fax: 416.519.1816 > --Boundary_(ID_ypnsiBEla71VAGsyAnAfbA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ask Leinhos.

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On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Tim Clement wrote:

Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe to Loopers Delight....?

2011/6/16 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Hi friends,

A video with almost half of our duet concert in Paris has been published today:

http://www.chordscenter.net/erdem-helvacioglu-per-boysen-pr-sences-electronique-2011_watch-video-rdhvdv.html

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub




--
Tim Clement
phone:   416.536.8172
mobile:  647.832.8172
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--Boundary_(ID_ypnsiBEla71VAGsyAnAfbA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 03:41:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD387183C0A; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NIabGW3clNZy9l+T8RWivOUD2fzk9FSqCery6PWacnw=; b=sOGl+B5kEsMjPaEEgemXWHfO4G/Sqwo87cOybRcdF/hOMHoO69caqDChz8N4PjT2pt XRLwT4vo0CJ672h1IBcczEvKMVUDkNpX1IWYV9Cvbh/2zwBSecJNZKrImaa8DQYNMN2l CF6TPpLahr7s87ifbv4gMt1VhL0yVZUXC2RcU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=k+UPFp/3kBkWOWSkIS6Gm1Eb0Fn7aY6hH/57seOpapWRGE+6bPlRnBFqv5/SjshtHm rPsex8JpYb647bxsDlMI/QPvZb5HrAT3PvIha/8UNaiJlBlOHnlQ3/f2xsN20IcJqDvO k1K/W+0l2FroFENSNUACBdJvLgCe42/FsyzhE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:41:37 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: long delay for mac From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:41:38 +0000 (UTC) What Todd said ... and look in to using bidule as a framework to use the plugins ... Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hey guys, > I've just gravitated over to a mac system, (ARGGHHHH!) since I seem to be > getting more stable results and very low latencies with it. > Unfortunately, I have to leave many wonderful effects behind me. > I can't for the life of me find a long, stereo syncable delay plugin. 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Than you Charles, thank you Thomas!=0A=0A=0AAn= tony Hequet=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Daniel Thom= as =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent= : Thu, June 16, 2011 8:17:48 PM=0ASubject: Re: LP1 tech question=0A=0AHi = =0A=0AI think Charles has given the most correct response to your inquiry. = Chew it =0Awell.. I did and it sharpened my teeth nicely. =0A=0AThis ju= st proves, you don't have to be an electrical engineer to manage pro =0Aaud= io.. but it doesn't hurt. =0A=0A<><><=0AIf the DM1000 has non floating ba= lanced outputs, then wiring the XLR outputs to =0Athe LP-1 will simply req= uire connecting XLR pin 2 to the 1/4" connector "tip" =0Aand XLR pin 1 to t= he 1/4" "sleeve".=0A=0A This unbalancing will reduce the signal level by 6d= B simply by virtue of the =0Afact that you're not using the opposing polari= ty signal on pin 3 of the XLR.=0A=0AIf the LP-1 cannot accept a line level = signal, then it's a simple matter to =0Abuild an attenuator into the unbala= ncing adaptor cable I described above.=0A=0AIf you connect a 10k=E2=80=A1 r= esistor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector and wire =0Athe other side of= that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" plug AND (2) to a =0A1k=E2=80= =A1 resistor whose other end is connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you will have 2= 0dB =0Aless signal at the 1/4" plug.=0A=0AWhen returning the LP-1 to the DM= simply make a cable that connects the "tip" of =0Athe 1/4" plug to pin 2 o= f the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of the XLR (m) plug =0Ato the 1/4" "sle= eve". Grounding pin 3 will give you as much as 6dB more gain, =0Adepending= on the design of the input at the DM1000.=0A=0A<><><=0A=0AOr, if you are s= oldergun challenged, you can hit your local pro-audio store for =0Aprebuilt= adaptors/cables.... =0A=0Adaniel =0AOn Jun 16, 2011, at 11:03 AM, antonyhe= quet@yahoo.com wrote:=0A=0A=0Awhere do you find an impedance line conversio= n adaptor?=0A>=0A>=0A>Antony=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: Daniel Thomas =0A>To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=0A>Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM=0A>Subject: Re: LP1 t= ech question=0A>=0A>=0A>if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you= will get a low level in and =0A>out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced= ins and outs. =0A>=0A>=0A>True that... unless the DM1000 has impedance con= trol on its AUX output buss. =0A> (Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced = input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 =0A>would have this feature-- its mor= e common to large scale digital mixers)=0A>=0A>=0A>A less than attractive a= lternative would be impedance line conversion adaptor on =0A>the send into = LP-1=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>D=0A>=0A>=0A>if the aux sends and returns are balan= ced, then you will get a low level in and =0A>out of the lp-1, because it h= as unbalanced ins and outs. =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>sim=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Thu, Jun 16= , 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles =0AZwicky wrote:=0A>>= =0A>>The first thing I'd recommend is that you check the signal levels usi= ng the =0A>>DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've = selected on the =0A>>DM1000. If the LP is an "instrument level only" devic= e, then you might need to =0A>>trim he output by 30dB or more. Check the L= P1 docs to see if there is a line =0A>>level option...=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>All= my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing = =0A>>>chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000= input to =0A>>>balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within the boundaries of= what the LP1 INPUT =0A>>>will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You= are saying I should boost the =0A>>>return signal from the LP1. Am I readi= ng you properly? Would I be better off =0A>>>using a mixer with unbalanced = OUTPUTS?=0A>>=0A>>>=0A>ANtony Hequet=0A=0A>=0A=0A__________________________= ______=0A=0AFrom: andy butler =0A>To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com=0A>Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM=0A>Subject: R= e: LP1 tech question=0A>=0A>First suggestion would be give full details abo= ut how you're=0A>connecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and wh= ere it distorts.=0A>=0A>The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so= you'll have to=0A>go easy on the signal strength that you send to it and b= oost=0A>the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.=0A>= =0A>The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkward=0A>there's n= o disadvantage to this.=0A>=0A>andy=0A>=0A>antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:=0A= >> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixer. I = used to =0A>>take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything w= ent smooth. Now I =0A>>am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Y= amaha. The signal is either =0A>>too weak or immediately distorting heavily= . Never managed to work it out... Any =0A>>suggestions?=0A>>=0A>> Antony He= quet=0A=0A=0A>>>-- =0A>>>=0A>>>...=0A>>>http://www.zmix.net/=0A>>>=0A>>>ht= tp://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky=0A>>>=0A>>>http://albumcredits.com/zmix= =0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A --0-965268201-1308291925=:3404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
perfect, that's my solution. Than you Charles, t= hank you Thomas!


Antony Hequet

From: Daniel Thomas <danielth= omas4@mac.com>
To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 8:17:48 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

=0AHi=  

I think Charles has given the most correct respon= se to your inquiry.    Chew it well.. I did and it sharpened my t= eeth nicely.  

This just proves, you don't ha= ve to be an electrical engineer to manage pro audio..  but it doesn't = hurt.  

<><><
I= f the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs, then wiring the XLR outputs= to the LP-1  will simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to the 1/4" con= nector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4" "sleeve".

&= nbsp;This unbalancing will reduce the signal level by 6dB simply by virtue = of the fact that you're not using the opposing polarity signal on pin 3 of = the XLR.

If the LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal, then it= 's a simple matter to build an attenuator into the unbalancing adaptor cable I described above.

If you connect a 10k=E2=80=A1 res= istor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector and wire the other side of that= resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" plug AND (2) to a 1k=E2=80=A1 resist= or whose other end is connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you will have  20dB l= ess signal at the 1/4" plug.

When returning th= e LP-1 to the DM simply make a cable that connects the "tip" of the 1/4" pl= ug to pin 2 of the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of the XLR (m) plug to= the 1/4" "sleeve".  Grounding pin 3 will give you as much as 6dB more= gain, depending on the design of the input at the DM1000.

<><><

Or, if you are solde= rgun challenged, you can hit your local pro-audio store for prebuilt adapto= rs/cables.... 

daniel 
On Jun = 16, 2011, at 11:03 AM, antonyhequet@yaho= o.com wrote:

where do you find an impedance line conversion adaptor?
<= div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:= 0px;">
Antony

From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
To:&nb= sp;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:52:46 PM=
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

if the aux sends and returns are balan= ced, then you will get a low level in and out of the lp-1, because it has u= nbalanced ins and outs. 

Tru= e that... unless the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX output buss. &= nbsp;(Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt = that LP1 would have this feature-- its more common to large scale digital mixers)

A less than attractive alternative wo= uld be impedance line conversion adaptor on the send into LP-1
=

D

if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a lo= w level in and out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.&nbs= p;

sim

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM,= Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink= .net> wrote= :
=
The first thing I'd recommend is that you check  the signal lev= els using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to the LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the DM= 1000.  If the LP is an "instrument level only" device, then you might = need to trim he output by 30dB or more.  Check the LP1 docs to see if = there is a line level option...

All my gear is hooked up to th= e DM1000 with DI where necessary. I am playing chapman stick with separate = preamps and amps. Signal goes from DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND. If &n= bsp;I stay well within the boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT will tolerate, = my OUTPUT signal is very weak. You are saying I should boost the return sig= nal from the LP1. Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off using a mix= er with unbalanced OUTPUTS?

ANtony Hequet

From:=  andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
<= b>To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
Sent:&n= bsp;Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

First suggestion would be give full details about how you're
conn= ecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and where it distorts.
<= br>The LP1 won't match pro studio gear for headroom so you'll have to
go= easy on the signal strength that you send to it and boost
the Lp1 outpu= ts somewhat more than you'd expect with the mixer.

The Lp1 has a low= noise floor, so apart from being awkward
there's no disadvantage to thi= s.

andy

antonyheq= uet@yahoo.com wrote:<= br>> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha DM1000 mixe= r. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface and everything w= ent smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX OUT of the Yamaha= . The signal is either too weak or immediately distorting heavily. Never managed= to work it out... Any suggestions?
>
> Antony Hequet


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I am in France close to Geneva Switzerla= nd.=0A=0AAntony Hequet=0Apoet composer=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________________= _______=0AFrom: Charles Zwicky =0ATo: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Thu, June 16, 2011 7:21:06 PM=0ASubject: Re:= LP1 tech question=0A=0A =0AThere seems to be a bit of confusion regarding = impedance here...=0A=0AThe output impedance of the DM1000 omni outputs is s= tated as less than 75=E2=80=A1. An =0A"ideal" output source has an output i= mpedance of zero ohms, which means that it =0Acan drive any input without l= oading. The LP1 should have at least a 10k=E2=80=A1 input =0Aimpedance, s= o the DM1000 will have no problems driving the LP1.=0A=0AIf the DM1000 has = non floating balanced outputs, then wiring the XLR outputs to =0Athe LP-1 = will simply require connecting XLR pin 2 to the 1/4" connector "tip" =0Aand= XLR pin 1 to the 1/4" "sleeve".=0A=0A This unbalancing will reduce the sig= nal level by 6dB simply by virtue of the =0Afact that you're not using the = opposing polarity signal on pin 3 of the XLR.=0A=0AIf the LP-1 cannot accep= t a line level signal, then it's a simple matter to =0Abuild an attenuator = into the unbalancing adaptor cable I described above.=0A=0AIf you connect a= 10k=E2=80=A1 resistor to the output XLR (f) pin 2 connector and wire =0Ath= e other side of that resistor to (1) the "tip" of the 1/4" plug AND (2) to = a =0A1k=E2=80=A1 resistor whose other end is connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you= will have 20dB =0Aless signal at the 1/4" plug.=0A=0A=0AWhen returning th= e LP-1 to the DM simply make a cable that connects the "tip" of =0Athe 1/4"= plug to pin 2 of the XLR (m) plug and tie pins 1&3 of the XLR (m) plug =0A= to the 1/4" "sleeve". Grounding pin 3 will give you as much as 6dB more ga= in, =0Adepending on the design of the input at the DM1000.=0A=0A-Chuck Zwic= ky=0A=0Aif the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get a low = level in and =0Aout of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and outs.=0A= >>=0A=0A>=0ATrue that... unless the DM1000 has impedance control on its AUX= output buss. =0A (Or conversly, the LP1 on its unbalanced input... but I k= ind of doubt that LP1 =0Awould have this feature-- its more common to large= scale digital mixers)=0A=0A>=0AA less than attractive alternative would be= impedance line conversion adaptor on =0Athe send into LP-1=0A=0A>=0A=0A>= =0AD=0A=0A>=0A>if the aux sends and returns are balanced, then you will get= a low level in and =0A>out of the lp-1, because it has unbalanced ins and = outs.=0A=0A>=0Asim=0A>=0AOn Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote:=0A>=0A>The first thing I'd recommend is that = you check the signal levels using the =0A>DM1000 tone generator, sent to t= he LP1 via the Omni out you've selected on the =0A>DM1000. If the LP is an= "instrument level only" device, then you might need to =0A>trim he output = by 30dB or more. Check the LP1 docs to see if there is a line =0A>level op= tion...=0A=0A>=0A>All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000 with DI where nece= ssary. I am playing =0A>chapman stick with separate preamps and amps. Signa= l goes from DM1000 input to =0A>balanced AUX SEND. If I stay well within t= he boundaries of what the LP1 INPUT =0A>will tolerate, my OUTPUT signal is = very weak. You are saying I should boost the =0A>return signal from the LP1= . Am I reading you properly? Would I be better off =0A>using a mixer with u= nbalanced OUTPUTS?=0A>>=0A=0A>>=0AANtony Hequet=0A>=0A=0A>=0A=0A___________= _____________________=0A=0AFrom: andy butler =0A>To= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 P= M=0A>Subject: Re: LP1 tech question=0A>=0A>First suggestion would be give f= ull details about how you're=0A>connecting things up, where the signal is t= oo weak, and where it distorts.=0A>=0A>The LP1 won't match pro studio gear = for headroom so you'll have to=0A>go easy on the signal strength that you s= end to it and boost=0A>the Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with= the mixer.=0A>=0A>The Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being awkwa= rd=0A>there's no disadvantage to this.=0A>=0A>andy=0A>=0A>antonyhequet@yaho= o.com wrote:=0A>> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamaha D= M1000 mixer. I used to =0A>>take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface a= nd everything went smooth. Now I =0A>>am using a balanced signal from the A= UX OUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either =0A>>too weak or immediately dis= torting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any =0A>>suggestions?=0A>= =0A>> Antony Hequet=0A>=0A=0A>=0A=0A>=0A--=0A=0A>...=0A>http://www.zmix.net= /=0A>=0A>http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky=0A>=0A>http://albumcredits.com= /zmix=0A=0A=0A-- =0A=0A...=0Ahttp://www.zmix.net=0A=0Ahttp://www.esession.c= om/ChuckZwicky=0A=0Ahttp://albumcredits.com/zmix --0-666503313-1308292083=:94981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Charles,

thank you for = your very detailed answer which I just caught now because of time differenc= es. I am in France close to Geneva Switzerland.

An= tony Hequet
poet composer

Fr= om: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om
Sent: Thu, June 16, = 2011 7:21:06 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 te= ch question

=0A=0A=0A
Ther= e seems to be a bit of confusion regarding impedance=0Ahere...
=0A
=0A
The output impedance of the DM1000 omni outputs is state= d as less=0Athan 75=E2=80=A1. An "ideal" output source has an output impeda= nce=0Aof zero ohms, which means that it can drive any input without=0Aloadi= ng.  The LP1 should have at least a 10k=E2=80=A1  input=0Aimpedan= ce, so the DM1000 will have no problems driving the LP1.
=0A

<= /div>=0A
If the DM1000 has non floating balanced outputs, then wiring t= he=0AXLR outputs to the LP-1  will simply require connecting XLR pin 2= =0Ato the 1/4" connector "tip" and XLR pin 1 to the 1/4"=0A"sleeve".
= =0A

=0A
 This unbalancing will reduce the signal lev= el by 6dB simply=0Aby virtue of the fact that you're not using the opposing= polarity=0Asignal on pin 3 of the XLR.
=0A

=0A
If t= he LP-1 cannot accept a line level signal, then it's a simple=0Amatter to b= uild an attenuator into the unbalancing adaptor cable I=0Adescribed above.<= /div>=0A

=0A
If you connect a 10k=E2=80=A1 resistor to th= e output XLR (f) pin 2=0Aconnector and wire the other side of that resistor= to (1) the=0A"tip" of the 1/4" plug AND (2) to a 1k=E2=80=A1 resistor=0Awh= ose other end is connected to XLR (f) pin 1 you will have  20dB=0Aless= signal at the 1/4" plug.
=0A

=0A

=0A
= When returning the LP-1 to the DM simply make a cable that=0Aconnects the "= tip" of the 1/4" plug to pin 2 of the XLR=0A(m) plug and tie pins 1&3 o= f the XLR (m) plug to the 1/4"=0A"sleeve".  Grounding pin 3 will give = you as much as 6dB=0Amore gain, depending on the design of the input at the= DM1000.
=0A

=0A
-Chuck Zwicky
=0A

=0A
=0A
if the aux sends and returns are=0Abalanced, then you will get a low = level in and out of the lp-1,=0Abecause it has unbalanced ins and outs.
= =0A
=0A
=0A

=
=0A
True that... unless the= DM1000 has=0Aimpedance control on its AUX output buss.  (Or conversly= , the LP1=0Aon its unbalanced input... but I kind of doubt that LP1 would h= ave=0Athis feature-- its more common to large scale digital=0Amixers)=0A

=0AA less than attractive alternative would=0Abe im= pedance line conversion adaptor on the send into=0ALP-1
=0A
=0A

=0A
D=0A

=0A
if the aux sends and returns are=0Abalanced, then you will g= et a low level in and out of the lp-1,=0Abecause it has unbalanced ins and = outs.
=0A

= =0A
sim
=0A
=0AOn Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Charles=0AZwicky= <cazwicky@earthlink.net>=0Awrote:
=0A
The first thing I'd recommend is that you= check  the=0Asignal levels using the DM1000 tone generator, sent to t= he LP1 via the=0AOmni out you've selected on the DM1000.  If the LP is= an=0A"instrument level only" device, then you might need to trim=0Ahe outp= ut by 30dB or more.  Check the LP1 docs to see if there is=0Aa line le= vel option...
=0A

=0A
All my gear is hooked up to the DM1000=0Awith DI where necessary. = I am playing chapman stick with separate=0Apreamps and amps. Signal goes fr= om DM1000 input to balanced AUX SEND.=0AIf  I stay well within the bou= ndaries of what the LP1 INPUT will=0Atolerate, my OUTPUT signal is very wea= k. You are saying I should boost=0Athe return signal from the LP1. Am I rea= ding you properly? Would I be=0Abetter off using a mixer with unbalanced OU= TPUTS?
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
ANtony Hequet
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0AFrom: andy butler=0A<akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>= ;
=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
=0ASent:= Thu, June 16, 2011 5:48:27 PM
=0ASubject: Re: LP1 tech quest= ion
=0A
=0AFirst suggestion would be give full details about h= ow you're
=0Aconnecting things up, where the signal is too weak, and whe= re it=0Adistorts.
=0A
=0AThe LP1 won't match pro studio gear for head= room so you'll have to
=0Ago easy on the signal strength that you send t= o it and boost
=0Athe Lp1 outputs somewhat more than you'd expect with t= he mixer.
=0A
=0AThe Lp1 has a low noise floor, so apart from being a= wkward
=0Athere's no disadvantage to this.
=0A
=0Aandy
=0A
= =0Aantonyhequet@yahoo.com= =0Awrote:
=0A> I am having problems interfacing my LP1 with new Yamah= a DM1000=0Amixer. I used to take a unbalanced signal OUT from a Multiface a= nd=0Aeverything went smooth. Now I am using a balanced signal from the AUX= =0AOUT of the Yamaha. The signal is either too weak or immediately=0Adistor= ting heavily. Never managed to work it out... Any=0Asuggestions?=0A
>
=0A> Antony Hequet
=0A
=0A=0A

=0A

=0A<= blockquote>--
=0A

=0A...
=0Ahttp://www.zmix.net/
=0A
=0Ahttp://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
=0A
=0Ahttp://al= bumcredits.com/zmix
=0A
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--0-666503313-1308292083=:94981-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 06:32:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82654183C05; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7cdfa2c8-ed97-43d5-9866-59619c8cd62b_" X-Originating-IP: [86.141.148.15] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Sound vs function Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:32:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2011 06:32:23.0974 (UTC) FILETIME=[517E5460:01CC2CB8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:32:25 +0000 (UTC) --_7cdfa2c8-ed97-43d5-9866-59619c8cd62b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the same sort of issues Bill=2CI spent quite a long time=2C (too lon= g!)=2C yesterday comparing tones by plugging my guitar directly into my Foc= usrite soundcard using a plethora of plugins but nothing sounded as good as= via the M13. It just sounds beefier and fuller=2C (and yep=2C I did set th= e impedance correctly).I've settled on using my computer in an effects loop= from the M13 now. This gives me the best of both tonal worlds and if it al= l goes tits up=2C so to speak=2C I can still change to an M13 patch without= an effects loop in line since the effects loop settings are patch specific= . It also allows me to set up some cool loops between different pieces of m= usic live which won't mute when I'm changing patches on the computer. Peace G > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Sound vs function > Date: Thu=2C 16 Jun 2011 19:55:07 -0700 >=20 > As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain=2C I'm still stuck in hardware =20 > mode and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer=2C =20 > but there are few hardware choices available that can do multiple =20 > loops and mine=2C the LP-1 is currently out of production and the =20 > roland rc 50 has been discontinued. When the time comes for me to move =20 > to software I will still continue to use a small hardware front end =20 > and smaller floor looper as both a safety net and also because I =20 > still prefer analog=2C even solid state over modeling for guitar tones. = =20 > To wit=2C my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a scant two channels of =20 > guitar tone=2C essentially a clean and a dirty channel with an extra =20 > boost on the dirty channel=2C but it has an excellent speaker emulator =20 > output=2C so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run direct. = =20 > Its like a dumble amp in a box=2C and I'm fortunate enough to have =20 > played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really =20 > see putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. =20 > Right now I tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and =20 > honestly I like the fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and =20 > other effects are easy to change on the fly=2C the frustration I have =20 > found with all in one modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have =20 > tended to be when needing to change eq and parameter settings on the =20 > fly. To much bass for the room? what are you going to do=2C tweak every = =20 > preset you have created each time you move to a new one? i think the =20 > new modeling amp choices are much better than when I was using them =2C = =20 > and they have addressed a number of these issues=2C but they still feel = =20 > and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of endless =20 > menus=2C and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and =20 > learning new platforms is time not making music=2C and currently I'm =20 > more interested in making music with the tools I have=2C which as of yet = =20 > have not proved limiting. So if I was making the leap=2C I think i'd =20 > keep as much analog front end as possible=2C but keep it simple=2C and us= e =20 > a combo of Abelton and Mobius=2C becaues cool people in the know said = =20 > so=2C and because Jeff Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine =2C and = =20 > what ever cool plugs I could get my hands on=2C I would start to =20 > integrate...slowly. I'd start with some Expert Sleepers stuff=2C =20 > because Os makes cool plugins=2C and I'd become an absolute pest to =20 > many of you on this list. > Bill >=20 = --_7cdfa2c8-ed97-43d5-9866-59619c8cd62b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have the same sort of issues Bill=2C
I spent quite a long time=2C (to= o long!)=2C yesterday comparing tones by plugging my guitar directly into m= y Focusrite soundcard using a plethora of plugins but nothing sounded as go= od as via the M13. It just sounds beefier and fuller=2C (and yep=2C I did s= et the impedance correctly).
I've settled on using my computer in= an effects loop from the M13 now. This gives me the best of both tonal wor= lds and if it all goes tits up=2C so to speak=2C I can still change to an M= 13 patch without an effects loop in line since the effects loop settings ar= e patch specific. =3B
It also allows me to set up some cool l= oops between different pieces of music live which won't mute when I'm chang= ing patches on the computer.

Peace

G=

>=3B From: billwalker@baymoon.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Sound vs function
>=3B Date= : Thu=2C 16 Jun 2011 19:55:07 -0700
>=3B
>=3B As a fellow tone s= nob I feel your pain=2C I'm still stuck in hardware
>=3B mode and I= 'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer=2C
>=3B bu= t there are few hardware choices available that can do multiple
>=3B= loops and mine=2C the LP-1 is currently out of production and the
&g= t=3B roland rc 50 has been discontinued. When the time comes for me to move=
>=3B to software I will still continue to use a small hardware fron= t end
>=3B and smaller floor looper as both a safety net and also b= ecause I
>=3B still prefer analog=2C even solid state over modeling= for guitar tones.
>=3B To wit=2C my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offe= rs a scant two channels of
>=3B guitar tone=2C essentially a clean a= nd a dirty channel with an extra
>=3B boost on the dirty channel=2C = but it has an excellent speaker emulator
>=3B output=2C so I can ge= t great guitar tones even if I have to run direct.
>=3B Its like a d= umble amp in a box=2C and I'm fortunate enough to have
>=3B played a= few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really
>=3B se= e putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects.
>=3B= Right now I tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and
&= gt=3B honestly I like the fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and >=3B other effects are easy to change on the fly=2C the frustration I h= ave
>=3B found with all in one modeling/effects amps is how clumsy t= hey have
>=3B tended to be when needing to change eq and parameter s= ettings on the
>=3B fly. To much bass for the room? what are you goi= ng to do=2C tweak every
>=3B preset you have created each time you m= ove to a new one? i think the
>=3B new modeling amp choices are muc= h better than when I was using them =2C
>=3B and they have addressed= a number of these issues=2C but they still feel
>=3B and sound a bi= t flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of endless
>=3B menus=2C and= LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and
>=3B learnin= g new platforms is time not making music=2C and currently I'm
>=3B = more interested in making music with the tools I have=2C which as of yet <= br>>=3B have not proved limiting. So if I was making the leap=2C I think= i'd
>=3B keep as much analog front end as possible=2C but keep it s= imple=2C and use
>=3B a combo of Abelton and Mobius=2C becaues cool= people in the know said
>=3B so=2C and because Jeff Larson has a d= og almost as cute as mine =2C and
>=3B what ever cool plugs I could= get my hands on=2C I would start to
>=3B integrate...slowly. I'd s= tart with some Expert Sleepers stuff=2C
>=3B because Os makes cool = plugins=2C and I'd become an absolute pest to
>=3B many of you on = this list.
>=3B Bill
>=3B
= --_7cdfa2c8-ed97-43d5-9866-59619c8cd62b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 06:46:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECB67183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a3e653d2-65ee-429e-9604-08d5e01b2a5f_" X-Originating-IP: [86.141.148.15] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: long delay for mac Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:46:00 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4DFA5DAD.30508@cruzio.com> References: ,<4DFA5DAD.30508@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2011 06:46:01.0240 (UTC) FILETIME=[389F3980:01CC2CBA] Resent-Message-ID: <_QsaXD.A.rJ.qgv-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:46:02 +0000 (UTC) --_a3e653d2-65ee-429e-9604-08d5e01b2a5f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As you know Rick=2C I'm with you completely on the non-corporate=2C grassro= ots sound mangling software/plugin development underground scene. In fact I= 'm part of it!=20 The plugin converters you mentioned aren't cross platform unfortunately BUT= smproaudio have released a windows/mac wrapper that I will be investigating= today:http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/34640/vfx-host-software If it works= =2C I'll report back. Peace G Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Thu=2C 16 Jun 2011 12:46:53 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk > CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: long delay for mac >=20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: > > The choice of plugins seems minuscule compared to windows or am I just= =20 > > looking in the wrong places? > I've discussed this phenomenon many times here at L.D. >=20 > When KVR had their KVR challenge (offering a few thousand dollars to the= =20 > person who created the most > inventive freeware audio effects plugin) hundreds were submitted and of= =20 > the forty that were published=2C > there were only two for OSX versus 36 for Windows (a couple for Linux=2C= =20 > too=2C as I recall). >=20 >=20 > This has been a constant in the Windows world for the past ten years. > There's just a lot more freeware (and idiosyncratic) developement of=20 > effects plugins >=20 > Personally=2C I look for the intense (and often quirky) creativity that= =20 > come from young people's freeware plugins. > The last KVR challenge winner made a plugin that simulates insect=20 > sounds..........lol! So=2C I'm more a > fan of Windows. Also=2C for me=2C the presence of programs like FL=20 > Studio/Sony Vegas/Sony Sound Forge/Sony Acid > and stand alone creative apps like Granulab and Tuareg (slicer program)=20 > that just aren't available for OS X keeps me there. >=20 > There are also wonderful programs (very notably=2C Logic Pro) that aren't= =20 > found on Windows and there's the whole > aspect of potential viruses and mal and phisware that plague Windows=20 > (solution: don't use your audio system online!) > but I just read an article that said that now that Apple has become the=20 > largest media company on earth that virus writers > are starting to target Macs. Computer security problems are here to=20 > stay=2C I"m afraid. >=20 >=20 > There are=2C of course=2C many advantages to using OS X as well=2C but I = still=20 > run Windows (and even=2C archaicly=2C > Win XP which is now 2 OSs old=2C because it works so well for my audio se= t=20 > up). >=20 > Solutions? >=20 > Use Bootcamp with a dual boot system=3B install Win XP Professional=2C=20 > Service Pack 2 or > Win 7 and do your music editing on the Win XP side and import your files. >=20 > or stay with OS X and Use a VST wrapper with either AU or TDM plugin=20 > systems in your DAW. >=20 > Good luck=2C Gareth. The Intel Macs (with their abilities to have=20 > dual boot systems) are=2C if very pricey=2C very wonderful > (and this is said by someone who randomly seems to have bought a lemon=20 > MacBook Pro). >=20 = --_a3e653d2-65ee-429e-9604-08d5e01b2a5f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As you know Rick=2C I'm with you completely on the non-corporate=2C grassro= ots sound mangling software/plugin development underground scene. =3BIn fact I'm part of it! =3B
The plugin converters you mentio= ned aren't cross platform unfortunately =3B
BUT
smp= roaudio have released a windows/mac wrapper that I will be investigating to= day:
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/34640/vfx-host-software&nbs= p=3B
If it works=2C I'll report back.

Peace

G


=
Gareth=2C Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/

>=3B Date: Thu=2C 16 Jun 2011 12:46:53 -0700
>=3B From: looppool@= cruzio.com
>=3B To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk
>=3B CC: loopers-del= ight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: long delay for mac
>= =3B
>=3B On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote:
>=3B >= =3B The choice of plugins seems minuscule compared to windows or am I just =
>=3B >=3B looking in the wrong places?
>=3B I've discussed thi= s phenomenon many times here at L.D.
>=3B
>=3B When KVR had thei= r KVR challenge (offering a few thousand dollars to the
>=3B person w= ho created the most
>=3B inventive freeware audio effects plugin) hun= dreds were submitted and of
>=3B the forty that were published=2C
= >=3B there were only two for OSX versus 36 for Windows (a couple for Lin= ux=2C
>=3B too=2C as I recall).
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B This = has been a constant in the Windows world for the past ten years.
>=3B = There's just a lot more freeware (and idiosyncratic) developement of
&g= t=3B effects plugins
>=3B
>=3B Personally=2C I look for the int= ense (and often quirky) creativity that
>=3B come from young people's= freeware plugins.
>=3B The last KVR challenge winner made a plugin th= at simulates insect
>=3B sounds..........lol! So=2C I'm more a
= >=3B fan of Windows. Also=2C for me=2C the presence of programs like= FL
>=3B Studio/Sony Vegas/Sony Sound Forge/Sony Acid
>=3B and s= tand alone creative apps like Granulab and Tuareg (slicer program)
>= =3B that just aren't available for OS X keeps me there.
>=3B
>= =3B There are also wonderful programs (very notably=2C Logic Pro) that aren= 't
>=3B found on Windows and there's the whole
>=3B aspect of po= tential viruses and mal and phisware that plague Windows
>=3B (soluti= on: don't use your audio system online!)
>=3B but I just read an arti= cle that said that now that Apple has become the
>=3B largest media c= ompany on earth that virus writers
>=3B are starting to target Macs. = Computer security problems are here to
>=3B stay=2C I"m afraid.
= >=3B
>=3B
>=3B There are=2C of course=2C many advantages to u= sing OS X as well=2C but I still
>=3B run Windows (and even=2C archai= cly=2C
>=3B Win XP which is now 2 OSs old=2C because it works so well = for my audio set
>=3B up).
>=3B
>=3B Solutions?
>=3B =
>=3B Use Bootcamp with a dual boot system=3B install Win XP Professi= onal=2C
>=3B Service Pack 2 or
>=3B Win 7 and do your music edit= ing on the Win XP side and import your files.
>=3B
>=3B or stay = with OS X and Use a VST wrapper with either AU or TDM plugin
>=3B sys= tems in your DAW.
>=3B
>=3B Good luck=2C Gareth. The Intel= Macs (with their abilities to have
>=3B dual boot systems) are=2C if= very pricey=2C very wonderful
>=3B (and this is said by someone who = randomly seems to have bought a lemon
>=3B MacBook Pro).
>=3B
= --_a3e653d2-65ee-429e-9604-08d5e01b2a5f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 06:50:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39DD3183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bMo9FNWLkDfW1MZQmX+LN/fUjAHjgkcr17OgBLbSKXs=; b=TE2cFqfOlR3Mn0DSePpPpG3mmrkXP7oS8MMY/bjtQxNAyDJk3VP9j62iGzTy2APC7x BCPoQ0jKOEpI7SbfCUFTnr9cLkzKmk2hndCjKdQm8t2h0Ht03LXcQRsMkY7FgYTnq9vZ CTlqQ1P7JuxVpxLwUB58qj3iq619FFshn6nsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FvosArkn/CV2Qj6O0Cyzcnl5ia1sLsXfNMXapg/fJQP5etqJwDKQiYuopnHuswxphY MNZca2FK9ptcZw6dT2tsI5cRjWzAMDlhL7zbkkMW1z79WrxyCS/k93FklPjepYeKRdaH iJwXH2T3SCZJZisChEzCe3OkDil0fNSgdq/Ts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:50:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530ebc1b1a4204a5e2cd80 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:50:30 +0000 (UTC) --002354530ebc1b1a4204a5e2cd80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got decent results running mobius through the aux of my hardware mixer. The issue is the inability to send each created track out to a specific ableton track. Do I have to run a separate instance of mobius for each track? That seems silly. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I have the same sort of issues Bill, > I spent quite a long time, (too long!), yesterday comparing tones by > plugging my guitar directly into my Focusrite soundcard using a plethora of > plugins but nothing sounded as good as via the M13. It just sounds beefier > and fuller, (and yep, I did set the impedance correctly). > I've settled on using my computer in an effects loop from the M13 now. This > gives me the best of both tonal worlds and if it all goes tits up, so to > speak, I can still change to an M13 patch without an effects loop in line > since the effects loop settings are patch specific. > It also allows me to set up some cool loops between different pieces of > music live which won't mute when I'm changing patches on the computer. > > Peace > > G > > > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Sound vs function > > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:55:07 -0700 > > > > > As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck in hardware > > mode and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, > > but there are few hardware choices available that can do multiple > > loops and mine, the LP-1 is currently out of production and the > > roland rc 50 has been discontinued. When the time comes for me to move > > to software I will still continue to use a small hardware front end > > and smaller floor looper as both a safety net and also because I > > still prefer analog, even solid state over modeling for guitar tones. > > To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a scant two channels of > > guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channel with an extra > > boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker emulator > > output, so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run direct. > > Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have > > played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really > > see putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. > > Right now I tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and > > honestly I like the fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and > > other effects are easy to change on the fly, the frustration I have > > found with all in one modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have > > tended to be when needing to change eq and parameter settings on the > > fly. To much bass for the room? what are you going to do, tweak every > > preset you have created each time you move to a new one? i think the > > new modeling amp choices are much better than when I was using them , > > and they have addressed a number of these issues, but they still feel > > and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of endless > > menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and > > learning new platforms is time not making music, and currently I'm > > more interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet > > have not proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think i'd > > keep as much analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use > > a combo of Abelton and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said > > so, and because Jeff Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , and > > what ever cool plugs I could get my hands on, I would start to > > integrate...slowly. I'd start with some Expert Sleepers stuff, > > because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd become an absolute pest to > > many of you on this list. > > Bill > > > --002354530ebc1b1a4204a5e2cd80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got decent results running mobius through the aux of my hardware mixer.
The issue is the inability to send each created track out= to a specific ableton track. Do I have to run a separate instance of mobiu= s for each track? That seems silly.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Gareth Whit= tock <budd= hamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
I have the same sort of issues Bill,
I spent quite a long time, (too lo= ng!), yesterday comparing tones by plugging my guitar directly into my Focu= srite soundcard using a plethora of plugins but nothing sounded as good as = via the M13. It just sounds beefier and fuller, (and yep, I did set the imp= edance correctly).
I've settled on using my computer in an effects loop from the M13 = now. This gives me the best of both tonal worlds and if it all goes tits up= , so to speak, I can still change to an M13 patch without an effects loop i= n line since the effects loop settings are patch specific.=A0
It also allows me to set up some cool loops between different pieces o= f music live which won't mute when I'm changing patches on the comp= uter.

Peace

G

> From:= billwalker@bay= moon.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Sound vs fu= nction
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:55:07 -0700

>
> As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still st= uck in hardware
> mode and I'm able to do what you want with ou= t involving a computer,
> but there are few hardware choices availa= ble that can do multiple
> loops and mine, the LP-1 is currently out of production and the
= > roland rc 50 has been discontinued. When the time comes for me to move=
> to software I will still continue to use a small hardware front = end
> and smaller floor looper as both a safety net and also because I > still prefer analog, even solid state over modeling for guitar tones= .
> To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a scant two channe= ls of
> guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channel with an extra > boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker emulator=
> output, so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run d= irect.
> Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have =
> played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can real= ly
> see putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effec= ts.
> Right now I tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and <= br>> honestly I like the fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and =
> other effects are easy to change on the fly, the frustration I hav= e
> found with all in one modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have <= br>> tended to be when needing to change eq and parameter settings on th= e
> fly. To much bass for the room? what are you going to do, tweak= every
> preset you have created each time you move to a new one? i think the =
> new modeling amp choices are much better than when I was using th= em ,
> and they have addressed a number of these issues, but they s= till feel
> and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of endless =
> menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and =
> learning new platforms is time not making music, and currently I= 'm
> more interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet=
> have not proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think = i'd
> keep as much analog front end as possible, but keep it si= mple, and use
> a combo of Abelton and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said =
> so, and because Jeff Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , a= nd
> what ever cool plugs I could get my hands on, I would start to=
> integrate...slowly. I'd start with some Expert Sleepers stuff, =
> because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd become an absolute pe= st to
> many of you on this list.
> Bill
>

--002354530ebc1b1a4204a5e2cd80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 07:31:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A416183C02; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <50A7099E-6786-4719-B523-A59578E3A8DA@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT : Gear sale Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:31:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:31:18 +0000 (UTC) i've been lazy getting some gear I've been wanting to sell up on craigs list so i thought I'd give the list another look, and include prices this time. A pigtronics Philosopher KIng, the big one with the ADSR and tremolo effects, too big for my crowded board, unfortunatly , used for one hour, versatile, clean, and expensive new. $175 a Carl Martin compressor with built in ac cable, one of the best, made by danish guys who know what they are doing. $150 a Home Brew Germania treble booster built like the old rangemasters from the 60's, like Clapton, Page and Beck all used to throw some hair on non master volume amps. JMI is charging ridiculous prices for reissues. this one is only $100 a TC electronic Nova Reverb, another casualty of my overcrowded board, versatile, pristine reverb $150 a TC electronic G sharp rack mount proccessor , two effects at a time either some kind of modulation, or delay, and reverb, lots of knobs ac powered, shallow chassis clean and simple to use $125 I also have some guitar pickups for sale, I recently turned my telecaster back in to a telecaster after several different pickup experiments, over the last few years with various humbucking pick-ups. One set of seymour duncan firebird mini humbuckers, these have the solid embossed covers and also include gibson style cream colored cheater rings if someone wanted to install these in a P-90 sized rout $80 for the pair. One set of TV jones magnatron pickups in P-90 sized housing with both cream and black covers. These are very bright twangy, single coil sounding humbucking pickups with alnico rod magnets. hand made and expensive new $100 for the pair. Please contact me off list if interested, will consider shipping anywhere as long as you cover freight and can deal with pay pal. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 07:49:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCA80183C07; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=JXb04t9LdRzpWN7AlYzorY0JzyNI44GHyXt1/KtQkPU=; b=yHHjALhzkGKIhmim8U+aNfXfaljWO4Yo59vIpRwtRC48jscU9zLJKcn/tS7/FV3NzD Kj3blqNqWrb6qkNgAzE4wOPiq4wdmVjnfj14z0XjdthOCWe9h9x9idcFTekyKIrSg1US jo8YE1aNCFBHktkSvPAOwG5zksng/OeddRfZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=DsbTLgXtjrEfklRM9qD/3cQIXqQMx+p1dveusnBhLkRc874/nMNDCnYwWqSl7aw17q LfJANVL2b6uYB7t08kQDckgCp79ndd2ZVrkE7ITEI/ZH3HlJ/rCOsgihgLih6aApv24p CpNqvWdV2CuWfgNRdfv6ASZmQx7C0mybq2TCo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:48:49 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ETtUpHdBLI3xK23ylixaAqgNUgE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305644dfe9bdf804a5e39e02 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:49:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305644dfe9bdf804a5e39e02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > I got decent results running mobius through the aux of my hardware mixer. > > The issue is the inability to send each created track out to a specific > ableton track. Do I have to run a separate instance of mobius for each > track? That seems silly. > > This is definately possible Marcus, something to do with setting Mobius to send on multiple outs, then in Ableton the first track of 8 will contain Mobius and the next consequtive tracks you can set to recieve from consequtive outs from Mobius, exact recipe I dont remember. This seems a bit overkill for me, as I was a Abelton NEWB, so I figured out a way where 4 tracks came to one track and the ones afterwards were effected... mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf305644dfe9bdf804a5e39e02 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, marcus = kirby <marcus= loops@gmail.com> wrote:
I got decent results running mobius through the aux of my hardware mixer.
The issue is the inability to send each created track out= to a specific ableton track. Do I have to run a separate instance of mobiu= s for each track? That seems silly.


This is definately possibl= e Marcus, something to do with setting Mobius to send on multiple outs, the= n in Ableton the first track of 8 will contain Mobius and the next consequt= ive tracks you can set to recieve from consequtive outs from Mobius, exact = recipe I dont remember.

This seems a bit overkill for me, as I was a Abelton NEWB, so I figured= out a way where 4 tracks came to one track and the ones afterwards were ef= fected...

mark


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--20cf305644dfe9bdf804a5e39e02-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 08:33:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75098183520; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7zsgV8FtL0sDlA/WAQU6yZ08KWID5tAxAc71R0oS02s=; b=gfkNxm1kgZVq67OCEaKvWWYQuav5zIZv43qCq9R55mJLkk9L7M2l5o0a0OzLDgkEZS o6O5Kg8CvemRP0cHV6OibrNmHo1Cgd4RgMaVDGuqWFfZWUu1KAywshxN88EzclmFKZix kquWNqHclIyOR7c886YYLaFsVdbimFCx2HLBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ptryuhOFi0TMRlGZVIqpz/wS3zAPNu+Z2Ea9hy7lV1tG86DBFS3brp6XEcqGKLA/hQ eUa4ZnPgISbO4P1nMxcJupeKauxO7Q94hy4rocI2zD3KzNoAz43CaJcKHc2XHUktpnx5 /NmN79Pe00J3X75G36EvMIysblGuN7QBthypQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:33:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:33:56 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > The issue is the inability to send each created track out to a specific > ableton track. I'm of the opposite attitude in looping; I never run loops through different outputs in order to post process them. I focus everything on tone and balance and layer whatever effect processing needed as part of the loop. My reason for choosing this context is that it allows me to perform more fluently and also do more cut-up tricks and stuff to the music. I experience a certain grade of incompatibility between the two roles "musician" and "re-mixer" so I try to stick with being a "musician that fakes remix" ;-) > Do I have to run a separate instance of mobius for each > track? That seems silly. No. You go into Mobius "Congiguration > Track Setup" and assign the plugin's tracks to separate outputs. Then you simply fetch those separate outputs for inputs to your Ableton Live channel strips (you know, that pull-down menu inside the input slot) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 08:41:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09FA1183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l6fEdUgdER9PgCUmLXQcz3meabKAiSZ0JgEbWNk0sPE=; b=cA+oz4F7nrWURXYMwalKU+Tv44VrbUoszP2ngcLcub8P/KqD5O9kjkdVnhrEAE7Vd6 0EhS38VlBq4+Evq3qTgtrL4DZjX+K1odOZo/bc1l2sNslJc3ipgUDHErZzMqAsGffNjm bFE5KMzrQLmm5TQetls4NN96VWtpoYeyTRuEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bKgvc7xTR3uxj8TAPlusaJQpSQpA5Slfw0gFq2FP5aUiVCEA59j7KfFHk2rFxMpd5J 9BmjHDtUF0WSmE27xG6ydiFjwui+p2XqcGzj1sz4Hh8foGg0efQn9juujR/95F2rta7o X4QXMPAUT7/LAvRUgd3tIkcjIjwGl8T9ae7fs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:41:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Erdem_HELVACIOGLU_=2B_Per_BOYSEN_Pr=C3=A9sences_Electr?= =?UTF-8?Q?onique_2011_=2D_Videos?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:41:58 +0000 (UTC) 2011/6/17 Sylvain Poitras : > Was that the gig you guys did in quadraphonic or surround sound? No, this gig was in octophonics. At the soundcheck we were told they actually had set up two cirkles of eight speaker systems. One big surrounding circle with the big speakers and one inner circle... or should I rather call it "inner exploding core"? We decided to use both. I had re-routed my laptop outputs for octaphonic treatments and Erdem used his rack devices through a borrowed stage mixer to address the surround system. On stage we had a stereo mix of all eight surround channels, so the monitoring sound were rather flat. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 08:43:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3246B183C03; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 631209892/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.199/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.199 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArQCAHkS+01YbRnH/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgl2DyGJwSWL4st X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,380,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="631209892" Message-ID: <4DFB139E.4020407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:43:10 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Syncing two EDPS References: <4DF8C1E9.90303@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFA62C6.1080004@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4DFA62C6.1080004@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:42:59 +0000 (UTC) well here's the whole story............ the EDP has 3 methods of sync Brother sync is for syncing an EDP to another EDP. Midi sync for syncing to a device that sends midi clock. Beat Sync can sync to audio with a strong beat or a pulse. (and is an alternative method for syncing multiple edps) The edp can send out midi clock, ( and also a pulse, I think it's once per cycle) if you want to use it as master. andy Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Can't you just midi sync the EDPs ? > This may just be my naivete, but wasn't Brother Sync designed > specifically to solve this problem? > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 08:45:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7D2B183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 624797206/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.199/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.199 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao0DAEMT+01YbRnH/2dsb2JhbAAMRpd0MtgrhicEli+EU4Za X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,380,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="624797206" Message-ID: <4DFB1442.4020400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:45:54 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA34D0.6030302@tiscali.co.uk> <620217.25694.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <620217.25694.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:45:43 +0000 (UTC) antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > Andy, > > are you talking about the internal output gain of the LP1, not sure if I > ever found the access to it but will check again... Hit the ALL button select Master Level Hit Enter set it to -1 ( at level 0 there's a strong likelihood of distortion as you build up tracks). then forget about it. Charles is of course right that it's nothing to do with impedance, and what you are experience is just a level matching issue. The LP1 is not an "instrument level device", it's a line level device which runs at what is usually called "consumer audio" level, some way between the old -10dB standard for consumer audio and the +4dB pro audio level which is standard in studios. Anyway, you seem to be sorted :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 08:48:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 201211839C2; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SZOMDS8JkduEOEaKLoA48yOsqIOGehnOjnR/lR28zV0=; b=APhky51b6H9Ob3gqAeFxsz+/X/v5VyeP+MbpjIloopjBOIerva/yyCoK+uiuLTLD0H TO6sXN5gVjXDHDr9jAMYQZ1EavcJNYlgAA8POKy7wBvHikZvkotZDTGiuMLb0wEyxMxU 5YvQK57c/ryxUnGQuf51j/cdLneAkMtxQc+yo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=n0IXwtfcQ6uTqYgIg5G6669aJvyE/Lw0xpS5p6F5EVtEumDpwutO6HPBjPiVhEGR/E MDA3PXuASYoiHO2OwYBRseKdJfcFD/48pzVwZD7Z3tIQmD1qEyn0jZq7tVl2VF0+r5LA mt7MlZiK6ewOODRe5qKE4dj/Z4Fr0pZ6K7GZ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DFB139E.4020407@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DF8C1E9.90303@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFA62C6.1080004@cruzio.com> <4DFB139E.4020407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:48:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Syncing two EDPS From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-11VyB.A.LEC.3Tx-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:48:55 +0000 (UTC) I've use brother sync when looping together in ensemble with other EDP loopistst and it worked very well. In the studio I have used EDP puls to sync up my EDP and multitrack it into a multi track recorder. That seemed rock solid (sync-wise). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:43 AM, andy butler wrote: > well here's the whole story............ > > the EDP has 3 methods of sync > > Brother sync is for syncing an EDP to another EDP. > > Midi sync for syncing to a device that sends midi clock. > > Beat Sync can sync to audio with a strong beat or a pulse. > (and is an alternative method for syncing multiple edps) > > The edp can send out midi clock, ( and also a pulse, I think it's once per > cycle) if you want > to use it as master. > > andy > > > Rick Walker wrote: >> >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> >>> Can't you just midi sync the EDPs ? >> >> This may just be my naivete, but wasn't Brother Sync designed specifically >> to solve this problem? >> >> rick walker >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 08:58:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37D08183A9A; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=p3gJVR1VzJtvrVTiPEyT4a5pKV1LAg2KsRJtmuLejgM=; b=VKhGCQrENkC87VmLr/QlJtutpdsw1kqHlwCHjFIM4QD4aEdnMLC0Vc3i9RzgYGiFBl +3xL/xbS8y3BPASyqmH1Kv1uoAh8q3sOXbL/EoCCA3YN3ptvSKGZ3pou8Pjb+VaDWGOv LNp2TohJUoiWtjDb7ENs2criSpNFqEKOwhU1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=LDqosodAvPTTn00FWoSa3glSKS32fiLY+SkdC+MefVoC3nRancjn673CfMfzfvlNoV GVvyQgdnBw+ShmTCV4O6l+v7uoQFsrbrCabnGfZ38sGrsCYf9dll5h2bMvjRt0zrOMJO 83fbFVJShMd/ZKSrRuy8dP7uFHU4CfwTv/+lo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4DFB1442.4020400@tiscali.co.uk> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA34D0.6030302@tiscali.co.uk> <620217.25694.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFB1442.4020400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:58:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP1 tech question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd355fcfd7f8404a5e497dc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:58:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd355fcfd7f8404a5e497dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable somebody said the lp-1 runs at instrument level. this is not true. it runs at line level. i had mine running perfectly in a line level environment wit= h no adjustments to input or output gain levels in the lp-1, or in the mixer = i was using. everything was set flat and it ran quietly at the exact level i wanted. a quick look at the manual confirms this - Audio inputs: Audio inputs are 1=E2=81=844-inch unbalanced connectors. These inputs acce= pt line-level inputs with an impedance of approximately 20k Ohms. Audio outputs: Audio output are 1=E2=81=844-inch unbalanced connectors. These are line-le= vel outputs and should only be connected to line-level inputs of other equipment. Audio connections should be made before powering on the unit. By default, the LP1 is configured to pas= s the audio input with almost exactly the same level at the output. However, when multiple loops are running simultaneously or after an overdub, it is possible to overdrive the output converter. In this case, it is recommend that you reduce the Master Level from the ALL track menu. A setting of -2 is usually sufficient to guarantee that this type of distortion does not occur. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:45 AM, andy butler wrote= : > > antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Andy, >> >> are you talking about the internal output gain of the LP1, not sure if I >> ever found the access to it but will check again... >> > > > Hit the ALL button > select Master Level Hit Enter > set it to -1 ( at level 0 there's a strong likelihood of distortion > as you build up tracks). > then forget about it. > > > Charles is of course right that it's nothing to do with impedance, > and what you are experience is just a level matching issue. > > The LP1 is not an "instrument level device", it's a line level device > which runs at what is usually called "consumer audio" level, > some way between the old -10dB standard for consumer audio and > the +4dB pro audio level which is standard in studios. > > > Anyway, you seem to be sorted :-) > > andy > > --000e0cd355fcfd7f8404a5e497dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable somebody said the lp-1 runs at instrument level. this is not true. it runs = at line level. i had mine running perfectly in a line level environment wit= h no adjustments to input or output gain levels in the lp-1, or in the mixe= r i was using. everything was set flat and it ran quietly at the exact leve= l i wanted.

a quick look at the manual confirms this -=C2=A0
<= span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman&= #39;; font-size: 12px; ">
Au= dio inputs:=C2=A0

= Audio inputs are 1=E2=81=844-inch unbalanced connectors.=C2=A0 These inputs= accept line-level inputs=C2=A0

with an impedance of approximately 20k Ohms.= =C2=A0=C2=A0

Audio outputs:=C2=A0

= Audio output are 1=E2=81=844-inch unbalanced connectors.=C2=A0 These are li= ne-level outputs and should=C2=A0

= only be connected to line-level inputs of other equipment.=C2=A0 Audio conn= ections should be=C2=A0

= made before powering on the unit.=C2=A0 By default, the LP1 is configured t= o pass the audio=C2=A0

= input with almost exactly the same level at the output.=C2=A0 However, when= multiple loops are=C2=A0

= running simultaneously or after an overdub, it is possible to overdrive the= output=C2=A0

= converter.=C2=A0 In this case, it is recommend that you reduce the Master L= evel from the ALL=C2=A0

= track menu.=C2=A0 A setting of -2 is usually sufficient to guarantee that t= his type of distortion=C2=A0

= does not occur.=C2=A0



On F= ri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:45 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:<= br>

antonyhequet@ya= hoo.com wrote:
Andy,

are you talking about the internal output gain of the LP1, not sure if I ev= er found the access to it but will check again...


Hit the ALL button
select Master Level Hit Enter
set it to -1 ( at level 0 there's a strong likelihood of distortion
=C2=A0as you build up tracks).
then forget about it.


Charles is of course right that it's nothing to do with impedance,
and what you are experience is just a level matching issue.

The LP1 is not an "instrument level device", it's a line leve= l device
which runs at what is usually called "consumer audio" level,
some way between the old -10dB standard for consumer audio and
the +4dB pro audio level which is standard in studios.


Anyway, you seem to be sorted :-)

andy


--000e0cd355fcfd7f8404a5e497dc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 10:02:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4522183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 69743.74293.bm@omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308304950; bh=bSFZCHAwFxySzxd6wT+4tDjqc6eot9FXN3DEQ/AQEz8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4gxZgsFmZdTfFlSXJOKYpkUsNejT7VABP4LmWSMb1yctlMD9W3tbtnanj07MWJIifJf3UA1qLZqVnRRlz0VwGrR6ERs5qbOOpZ28mV2K5s1+U924kCrua69koOy8gas60MA/abOvPHvKhpnmIPofwV4Xi/P/UGkGsRGE5N7SAQw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ae8yfBOGirQQY7lMmpwWFBZ8Syi7OLqKPnwV4m9yDQErO2yBD0W6OOaDCm/S54ZgRLA2VVIe780cD/JmUdsnE5292/AU33UjLx/mSxpk0ENNk4idyypc9ULIk8s+Q5q4JyFjJNxsOZheTKp+D9JUWeC8xIqlSBKksjog6f0PnT4=; Message-ID: <854225.25188.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: q3xauf0VM1loyI41dxAlPco64m7kE1wKnW7geE2atTErZVH 8kNhh_9Ak7Yd6mySdFDk.4a2ynW1EqYXYg5msvRuELt.m9JuC_zmvwmZCe2E CgMuBPUnXlBpdxKg8CKumiMqiuxCRooYgnA.Xj6.Uv6mihV8XQ5N0jZ8wXIp vGpD.qgmuAOvzsoXRjRRizQ1ZjRm3e0Ff6c78FOTgWkAu71NCZC0UB2m_Fxc ymvflIH03yoa_kvbq3AUFTQvBowMFY8JZWv85xycS2ULUHoQyKMsmR0UAL0H h2HJcM8uy.xSlM589SBc27Hwgsofc8xGwtd2PFppLHuge9.e07gQtBh8aWhf dV_aQTp7ougL46hvwxUHNuh8j1uNMyaZn82n2Y96RJiNL9clqCD.gsOJotAc _ X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA34D0.6030302@tiscali.co.uk> <620217.25694.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFB1442.4020400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:02:30 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-914750793-1308304950=:25188" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:02:55 +0000 (UTC) --0-914750793-1308304950=:25188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes you are right it is unbalanced line level. My mixer outputs a balanced = line =0Alevel...=0A=0AANtony=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A= From: Simeon Harris =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com=0ASent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:58:47 AM=0ASubject: Re: LP= 1 tech question=0A=0Asomebody said the lp-1 runs at instrument level. this = is not true. it runs at =0Aline level. i had mine running perfectly in a li= ne level environment with no =0Aadjustments to input or output gain levels = in the lp-1, or in the mixer i was =0Ausing. everything was set flat and it= ran quietly at the exact level i wanted.=0A=0Aa quick look at the manual c= onfirms this - =0A=0AAudio inputs: =0AAudio inputs are 1=E2=81=844-inch unb= alanced connectors. These inputs accept line-level =0Ainputs =0Awith an im= pedance of approximately 20k Ohms. =0A=0AAudio outputs: =0AAudio output ar= e 1=E2=81=844-inch unbalanced connectors. These are line-level outputs =0A= and should =0Aonly be connected to line-level inputs of other equipment. A= udio connections =0Ashould be =0Amade before powering on the unit. By defa= ult, the LP1 is configured to pass the =0Aaudio =0Ainput with almost exactl= y the same level at the output. However, when multiple =0Aloops are =0Arun= ning simultaneously or after an overdub, it is possible to overdrive the = =0Aoutput =0Aconverter. In this case, it is recommend that you reduce the = Master Level from =0Athe ALL =0Atrack menu. A setting of -2 is usually suf= ficient to guarantee that this type =0Aof distortion =0Adoes not occur. =0A= =0A=0AOn Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:45 AM, andy butler = wrote:=0A=0A=0A>antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:=0A>=0A>Andy,=0A>>=0A>>are yo= u talking about the internal output gain of the LP1, not sure if I ever =0A= >>found the access to it but will check again...=0A>>=0A=0A=0AHit the ALL b= utton=0A>select Master Level Hit Enter=0A>set it to -1 ( at level 0 there's= a strong likelihood of distortion=0A> as you build up tracks).=0A>then for= get about it.=0A>=0A>=0A>Charles is of course right that it's nothing to do= with impedance,=0A>and what you are experience is just a level matching is= sue.=0A>=0A>The LP1 is not an "instrument level device", it's a line level = device=0A>which runs at what is usually called "consumer audio" level,=0A>s= ome way between the old -10dB standard for consumer audio and=0A>the +4dB p= ro audio level which is standard in studios.=0A>=0A>=0A>Anyway, you seem to= be sorted :-)=0A>=0A>andy=0A>=0A>=0A --0-914750793-1308304950=:25188 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yes you are right it is unbalanced line level. M= y mixer outputs a balanced line level...

ANtony

<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From: Simeon Harris <simeon= harris40@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:58:47 AM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

=0Asomebody said the lp-1 runs at instrument level. this is not true.= it runs at line level. i had mine running perfectly in a line level enviro= nment with no adjustments to input or output gain levels in the lp-1, or in= the mixer i was using. everything was set flat and it ran quietly at the e= xact level i wanted.
=0A
a quick look at the manual confi= rms this - 

Audio inputs: 
=0A=0A

Audio inputs are 1=E2= =81=844-inch unbalanced connectors.  These inputs accept line-level in= puts 

=0A
with an impedance of approximately 20k Ohms.  
=

=0AAudio outputs: 

=0A

Audio output are 1=E2=81=844-= inch unbalanced connectors.  These are line-level outputs and should&n= bsp;

=0A

only be connected to line-level inputs of other equipment.  A= udio connections should be 

=0A

made before powering on the unit. = ; By default, the LP1 is configured to pass the audio 

=0A

input with= almost exactly the same level at the output.  However, when multiple = loops are 

=0A

running simultaneously or after an overdub, it is possi= ble to overdrive the output 

=0A

converter.  In this case, it is = recommend that you reduce the Master Level from the ALL 

=0A

track men= u.  A setting of -2 is usually sufficient to guarantee that this type = of distortion 

=0A

does not occur. 

=0A

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:4= 5 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
=0A

=0Aantonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
=0A
=0AAndy,
=0A
=0Aare you talking about the internal output gai= n of the LP1, not sure if I ever found the access to it but will check agai= n...
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0AHit the ALL button
=0Asel= ect Master Level Hit Enter
=0Aset it to -1 ( at level 0 there's a strong= likelihood of distortion
=0A  as you build up tracks).
=0Athen = forget about it.
=0A
=0A
=0ACharles is of course right that it's n= othing to do with impedance,
=0Aand what you are experience is just a le= vel matching issue.
=0A
=0AThe LP1 is not an "instrument level device= ", it's a line level device
=0Awhich runs at what is usually called "con= sumer audio" level,
=0Asome way between the old -10dB standard for consu= mer audio and
=0Athe +4dB pro audio level which is standard in studios.<= br>=0A
=0A
=0AAnyway, you seem to be sorted :-)
=0A
=0Aandy
=0A
=0A

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--0-914750793-1308304950=:25188-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 10:03:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B771183C0D; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 950845.12182.bm@omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308304992; bh=QM9MRTMG6GXmcSlL9NcteM/E9oOX1mwF98e/J36iokI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RVn8prt80DDAe4ndaEJpJxbKubd+Jty7zabscN7lyGP9/FiwHW6pYn+++2o91lD6Gl7GlRYrfuvw7lb1DTaqAC5T353wUxPEzrYfAThXVuNAZlzjPHh/XMML675HMbkXvNC8csZxEFSBcCl1QsBRX7ttYwyAtoZ9RX6+m54ADxA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T7mmxLQKa8QZz4XE4De4M1OrC+fTRj39DpkW4Naw+sJilac4iblQF7LcnTVfJYYUuXNHsQUA/+vB5X9sUMucKUowlCGKP52vK9dpdO8a8b9fmm21D4VuFBYVwjRKFtnuwUqhl9cdXVkI2aatxzozSSZItTzy3+CoqJOuoWV93oE=; Message-ID: <855108.35831.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rKo77bQVM1mB53BqvgupWFVUIgLvNW70iHChLsq8s4p1SoF PXgawCyuXiXxX_mcQEQ82Wx8rCO6sfxtP.5DlJlt8u.hstTNWkPrSnSngs7g LFIqXikkFW09LcUbfMmv2ZtmvqnbtDaltdla1zQ.yC..SdiUCBOUh3BumfrH sBkquv9aDGojnV2So_rYu.YO05C0gZIjjT3odLx4bxFABZMaStjsOSF_2Lgs mNkHqe6mscZOThUatqUsxqywBNsDYLz1WJnSWOrEIQLZC_S_fNAmqzSkkOwF Na.ZFGQS1ZNyGkPOUT79hHWZR8BFl9XdXAj.7CBwwq5gSECrNlMM78QO5akL c.ruGeDgdhO2Dg3d_Erd0.yXt04e2GRCkSzf_KFsPlEExPXiakyyNMdHXGJx GKVzyeCPyMHrmBNbXP3Xoj5IryFAyJpwLjf7q2g2ZDfzBi5KyhrQxRlx97L9 _VpvA_EGm02R3pKFhTzbauaqdilCcvuO436Eht0hAibnqeehkcUc0rC7JMtW 3KMcD_o8wTc3avXCGEbW1ZvEN21_SSBRrQ_mozooD1cSGIq8wOw1xjxKpppI mVT9F X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <3223A2C0-566B-4136-8B72-4E8EA16B285E@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: LP1 tech question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3223A2C0-566B-4136-8B72-4E8EA16B285E@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2136525110-1308304992=:35831" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:03:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-2136525110-1308304992=:35831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK thanks for the advice, Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 11:59:23 PM Subject: Re: LP1 tech question Andy is right, find an alternative to jacking up the internal volume of the LP-1. And thanks for the tip Andy , I had always suspected some internal clipping issues related to the master volume control. And in addition to Charles sound advice, I also think that an impedance level conversion box might do the trick, like this: http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=90&cat=13&id=158 or this http://www.ebtechaudio.com/llsdes.html bill --0-2136525110-1308304992=:35831 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
OK thanks for the advice,

Antony Hequet

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 11:59:23 PM
Subject: Re: LP1 tech question

Andy is right, find an alternative to jacking up the internal volume of the LP-1. And thanks for the tip Andy , I had always suspected some internal clipping issues related to the master volume control.  And in addition to Charles sound advice, I also think that an impedance level conversion box might do the trick,   like this:
or this

bill
--0-2136525110-1308304992=:35831-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 10:09:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36045183C06; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1O9kXZkj+amHLNWnWk3wZiBHB4dxnyy0bWDrtWCrykg=; b=l/0IzSRTfOyDTiWsTpCyM+sqAN58kjCZxUlIdXuEbSJBQo/f/sWiaME7y66fct0qgt o62UMlSj0bAeNV/9CAEBSYQJCr3aiCfcMiM9thRWo0ZNW1SJ72I9InhjBVQbsgKQlPS3 F6laRCSukeN3r9WlaJnlnz/lhYumwj6eW0Iv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=KcTD+MnqsJIpLYyH1JBDTID3r3ITJ/SP5RaYNfplP1N5tGWps+p88ozrf0LH9qwS4P NSqkBAy/eqLoKRMSC1KDxRspxgBWTIrwpcrByxpskx9f6I3rULRlBunnIeTToC1Knpx7 0erfHHGYCqPxKfZN+hyoyhTnBmeaMS/RmM02I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <854225.25188.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <63E08579-1D97-43A9-955C-DD903278C7A7@mac.com> <818246.65840.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA25CB.8030109@tiscali.co.uk> <490768.26068.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFA34D0.6030302@tiscali.co.uk> <620217.25694.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DFB1442.4020400@tiscali.co.uk> <854225.25188.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:09:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP1 tech question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151748dcc049afc204a5e593ac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:09:04 +0000 (UTC) --00151748dcc049afc204a5e593ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 most mixers have the ability to detect whether an input or output has a TRS cable or a TS cable connected to it if a TS cable is connected, then the signal isn't split, so you don't get a reduction in volume have you looked at your manual? does your mixer behave like this? sim On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, wrote: yes you are right it is unbalanced line level. My mixer outputs a balanced line level... ANtony > > > --00151748dcc049afc204a5e593ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
most mixers have the ability to detect whether an input or output has = a TRS cable or a TS cable connected to it

if a TS = cable is connected, then the signal isn't split, so you don't get a= reduction in volume

have you looked at your manual? does your mixer behave = like this?

sim


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

yes you are right it is unbala= nced line level. My mixer outputs a balanced line level...

ANtony


--00151748dcc049afc204a5e593ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 10:23:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0310183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:22:53 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: portalooper References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4zUDkB.A.JnD.Dsy-NB@arsenic> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:22:59 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but > I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 > seconds .. To me, for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals, $400 USD) (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs distortions, specialty effects, etc. plus a 20 send looper with one level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects pedal to make some serious music then anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. I'm just sayin'. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 14:31:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66241183C07; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6NQv4x+eahPKyrGinwwXj5mXc6/VZP+bUH8bJsoD674=; b=O5iuA7Td5QKh5U7qdkTs/B18t7Er82UOh2W0KluNuHpEVU6WsslxY9LGZ0nL2J2fVy 5DxxhgCSzqsjr+tB/ONq28+/1oOPlPQuhfgDS/Is9lE5/B+D/OwCNVpSi2ld+yOcrdeG jKI6LUI5s/H1Hh8CJPl1zDxK9nD5o3vEvM3Ow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=xcr4WTb94zDYxHucn6PY0nl6gktZxrccSkRtUiHHCgGowTzOuYKRYzY7/NduJBEO+N zw2COOaKiLUG2T6yLw8MK0BMznMFLlcxC8sUnNutcDj7KI9449ogjV7eLXtna1K1arhs LnGkOg1eNVrr3Wg8nJp2JkaYB4kHhrRkLdEW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:31:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174791b8f58ff804a5e93ed2 Resent-Message-ID: <_FUAqB.A.xwG.WV2-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:31:50 +0000 (UTC) --0015174791b8f58ff804a5e93ed2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks so much Jim, Jean-Paul, Richard and Kevin. Honored to have some lovely words from my colleagues on the list. and Jim, no problem with the mini-review! You gave me more perspective than any of the press it's gotten, lol. Which of course leads me to invite you to write an Amazon review, cuz, you know, there AIN'T any yet! Loved your perspective in your facebook post! All the best to all of you. Todd On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Todd checking out now. This is excellent! Really like the unrest and > urban yet huge beat feel of this. Your sparse viol in there amongst all = the > processing is really cool in the opening moments. The more acoustic mome= nts > remind me a lot of Darol [Anger] then you've got this happening beat thin= g > going on. Sorry to turn in to a mini-review but dig it! > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover < > j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The track sounds great Todd! I'll re-listen often! >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jim Goodin >> wrote: >> > Todd congratulations. I'm mobil but will check the track later. You >> > are inspiring! >> > Jim >> > >> > On 6/15/11, richard sales wrote: >> >> Very nice, Todd! >> >> >> >> Richard Sales >> >> Sent from my IPad >> >> www.glasswing.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don't >> have >> >>> streaming yet), of Transamerica. >> >>> >> >>> http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica >> >>> >> >>> I do hope you enjoy. >> >>> >> >>> All the best, >> >>> >> >>> Todd >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds >> wrote: >> >>> Hi folks. >> >>> >> >>> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope y= ou >> >>> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy. >> >>> >> >>> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the >> first >> >>> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden for >> the >> >>> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... >> >>> >> >>> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as pa= rt >> of >> >>> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-class= icals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for indulging. I don't have it set up for free streaming yet= , >> but >> >>> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. >> >>> >> >>> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. Lovin' all this U2 >> lovin' >> >>> n hatin'. good convos of late. >> >>> >> >>> Todd >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >> >>> >> >>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available >> wherever >> >>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >> >>> >> >>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available >> wherever >> >>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >> >>> >> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D >> >>> http://toddreynolds.com >> >>> http://twitter.com/digifiddler >> >>> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic >> >>> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >> >>> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds >> >>> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > >> > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim >> Goodin & >> > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> > >> > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jean-Paul De Roover >> www.jeanpaulderoover.com >> (807) 251-3376 >> >> Check out the brand new video for "You"! >> www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc >> >> > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174791b8f58ff804a5e93ed2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks so much Jim, Jean-Paul, Richard and Kevin. =A0Honored to have some l= ovely words from my colleagues on the list. =A0


and Jim, =A0no problem with the mini-review! =A0You gave me more per= spective than any of the press it's gotten, lol. =A0Which of course lea= ds me to invite you to write an Amazon review, cuz, you know, =A0there AIN&= #39;T any yet! =A0 Loved your perspective in your facebook post!=A0

All the best to all of you.=A0

Todd

=A0

On Thu= , Jun 16, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote= :
Todd checking out now. =A0This is excellent= ! =A0Really like the unrest and urban yet huge beat feel of this. =A0Your s= parse viol in there amongst all the processing is really cool in the openin= g moments. =A0The more acoustic moments remind me a lot of Darol [Anger] th= en you've got this happening beat thing going on. =A0Sorry to turn in t= o a mini-review but dig it!

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jean-Paul = De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
The track sounds great Todd! I'll re-listen often!

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > Todd congratulations. I'm mobil but will check the track later. Yo= u
> are inspiring!
> Jim
>
> On 6/15/11, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
>> Very nice, Todd!
>>
>> Richard Sales
>> Sent from my IPad
>> www.glasswi= ng.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I= don't have
>>> streaming yet), of Transamerica.
>>>
>>> http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica
>>>
>>> I do hope you enjoy.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wro= te:
>>> Hi folks.
>>>
>>> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I = hope you
>>> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy.
>>>
>>> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transame= rica, the first
>>> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter = Garden for the
>>> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... >>>
>>> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention,= as part of
>>> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far...
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-classi= cals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far
>>>
>>> Thanks for indulging. =A0I don't have it set up for free s= treaming yet, but
>>> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it.<= br> >>>
>>> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. =A0Lovin' a= ll this U2 lovin'
>>> n hatin'. =A0good convos of late.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here.
>>>
>>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now ava= ilable wherever
>>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here.
>>>
>>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now ava= ilable wherever
>>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.
>>>
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> http://t= oddreynolds.com
>>> h= ttp://twitter.com/digifiddler
>>> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic
>>> htt= p://blog.toddreynolds.com
>>> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds
>>> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin &
> Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds
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--0015174791b8f58ff804a5e93ed2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 14:55:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C04E4183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i6nyiA/hfn+J/OoqFh0YsqG2X2oMQXYdHI8FIIoOPmE=; b=DcFPmmAS9PphSJXQPyQOla/C6GMYb7vdNWpsgH8owa4vBNDPw+XcOpn502J6OrtIdq eea+bQhj46Rl9mrYje+rs/SrlT2gRs4b6JIwwpllH2MvLbLcNMLaHGcVXeJmQNCDkT9A a3QoHBUKccbTG9AWuGSn0K0KSxOfUvxDWw3vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xYSYhjqNU/g13ktuFplpe4pvTRKroYHniI7pu1Kco28iH4S8AMDyJdBmhw3xgbon6X fiv5zM+5IkhI5ZO92MqPOhFtMbgr9eBPsSM/uZYwVBCO1N3WKL6SxU9/AxPugVkRn3N4 CnGoJ6FwhGaG6wU1PjqKZX667z4Ay9gJpnbnk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:55:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: portalooper From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636459338130e6c04a5e992eb Resent-Message-ID: <6XdrOC.A.0KH.Ir2-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:55:04 +0000 (UTC) --001636459338130e6c04a5e992eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would love to try tha M-9t out, I use the DD-20 for small loops and am having trouble holding my breath waiting for the LP2. That new Vox looper looks cool too but have not found it local to try out either. They don't stock much around Charleston, WV but we made the Today show today! On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > >> Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but >> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 >> seconds .. >> > To me, for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package > (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals, $400 USD) > (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP > processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs > distortions, specialty effects, etc. plus a 20 send looper with one level > of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) > I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. > > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects > pedal to make some serious music then > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. > > I'm just sayin'. > > rick walker > > -- Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Verizon.net TheWeg@GMail.com --001636459338130e6c04a5e992eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would love to try tha M-9t out, I use the DD-20 for small loops and am ha= ving trouble holding my breath waiting for the LP2.=A0 That new Vox looper = looks cool too but have not found it local to try out either.=A0 They don&#= 39;t stock much around Charleston, WV but we made the Today show today!

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.c= om> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:
Don't know about the M9; I&#= 39;ll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but
I know first-hand tha= t the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23
seconds ..
To me, =A0for the hugest bang for the buck= in a really small package (slightly larger than two boss styled single sto= mp box pedals, =A0$400 USD)
(three simultaneous multiple effects from al= l kinds of DSP processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs
distortions, specialty effects, etc. =A0plus a 20 send looper with one leve= l of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities)
I think the Line 6 M-9 is = the single coolest piece of kit in the world.

If you can't take = an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects pedal to make some ser= ious music then
anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either.

= I'm just sayin'.

rick walker

=



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--001636459338130e6c04a5e992eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 15:11:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E10A183C07; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UUVX585KeN9sNNQX8KirQVMtz7PBQa3blc1iHWW95sw=; b=XJ24CPK6vMiXffyu2kb/jVy4M2S8YTsLGwmUCkUUlDUqY0esArhBkHseOZHKIeNA8S nfEvui93/4KO/Zaj46af4cYRAmlWvJGTtPQAZ5SR5c9z7skBbnvk1mN9ywfTRQ6r0DvZ ZIR1pA+xzhinv/x1/RWndVzGlkCD5fdoOfgUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gr1o1hxO/ugXuyc+meH5IclcMb4a81NGAKyjjW3uNJtDmJKF+MejFUgKA0ope0euQu eLRLsEBF3Woa0MUvfLxjS01Aalje/mrxONhAxs0Hu3LYvEdBWZu7g+SnOxeF8N0Q+YFw 4CMrINE+6RDjaCmooYo+y6dwA0syveF+AI/Rc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:11:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: EchoLoop beta expiration From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:11:16 +0000 (UTC) All, I messaged Mathias last; thought I saw some earlier discussion about dealing with the Echoloop expiration dates? Hallucination? Wishful thinking? Really looking forward to this little beastie being unleashed; it runs on a little Dell netbook w/out a sweat! That sure saves on the aging back. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 15:55:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C645183C0D; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: Re: portalooper Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:55:06 -0500 Message-ID: <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQFiAHN8dJmA+uZ9eDuz8aUEUhqFcAJPfCjulYOQqcA= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rick. I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's just circumstances more than preference. I need to head to a guitar store and try one out. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: portalooper On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but > I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 > seconds .. To me, for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals, $400 USD) (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs distortions, specialty effects, etc. plus a 20 send looper with one level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects pedal to make some serious music then anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. I'm just sayin'. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 16:02:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10E23183C02; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iV9MvMBpiD9bK3nleJaL2ovVl2wmlZuintKyFtZpBQE=; b=FtAqhD3TGsH17R1rj+uKOJCptpxNaCUF5gwhjgg6JggTVAXCuDE01ufDK1I9SVETzC tKdcslryz+7V/r57YPS1mj6J4x9S7z8IToUlm+2LBFmBOxAGeTxjAO5I5dlqSdtuxhCD OfI0J4SOyBKo5xffJ1N3/xzG/JJ2/yiUe+Ye4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C56vvcVGTFYzMWX6pqrC7BUBuwPYhZMQLRFgEQuTbPTeljNbXQm22jW82O2F1pNAxh aUG8u4nxhjt53M3X5GCCBhSVQ3KBruhkl90mbw1nObSbDvt1GA/eGIprszcl1B1NCMon x83Ibdae8/GVGpEMihU8Kq+rN4SGSf+6vF1vM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: portalooper From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:02:19 +0000 (UTC) I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9. Its an amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my age damaged ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've made for overall versatility. Kevin On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, wrote: > Thanks Rick. =A0I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's j= ust > circumstances more than preference. =A0I need to head to a guitar store a= nd > try one out. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but >> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 >> seconds .. > To me, =A0for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package > (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals, =A0$400 US= D) > (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP > processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs > distortions, specialty effects, etc. =A0plus a 20 send looper with one > level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) > I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. > > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects > pedal to make some serious music then > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. > > I'm just sayin'. > > rick walker > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 16:12:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 229DE183C07; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fc8b5dc9-3052-42c1-9dae-d28ae07340af_" X-Originating-IP: [86.141.148.15] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: portalooper Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:12:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com>,<011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2011 16:12:28.0667 (UTC) FILETIME=[5AB504B0:01CC2D09] Resent-Message-ID: <93eRTD.A.7f.uz3-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:12:30 +0000 (UTC) --_fc8b5dc9-3052-42c1-9dae-d28ae07340af_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got the M13 and I haven't been so impressed by a piece of hardware in = a looong time. Some beautiful stuff in there and very well thought out.High= ly recommended! Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Fri=2C 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700 > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper > From: billowhead@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9. Its an > amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my age damaged > ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've made for overall > versatility. >=20 > Kevin >=20 > On Fri=2C Jun 17=2C 2011 at 8:55 AM=2C wrote: > > Thanks Rick. I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's j= ust > > circumstances more than preference. I need to head to a guitar store a= nd > > try one out. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] > > Sent: Friday=2C June 17=2C 2011 5:23 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper > > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Dennis Moser wrote: > >> Don't know about the M9=3B I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that=2C= but > >> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 > >> seconds .. > > To me=2C for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package > > (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals=2C $400 = USD) > > (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP > > processing.....modulation=2C reverbs=2C delays=2C filters=2C eqs > > distortions=2C specialty effects=2C etc. plus a 20 send looper with on= e > > level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) > > I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. > > > > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects > > pedal to make some serious music then > > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. > > > > I'm just sayin'. > > > > rick walker > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 = --_fc8b5dc9-3052-42c1-9dae-d28ae07340af_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've got the M13 and I haven't been so impressed by a piece of hardware in = a looong time. Some beautiful stuff in there and very well thought out.Highly recommended!

Gareth=2C Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music= plugins. http://senti= entfx.com/

>=3B Date: Fri=2C 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700>=3B Subject: Re: Re: portalooper
>=3B From: billowhead@gmail.com<= br>>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B I wi= ll wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9. Its an
>=3B= amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my age damaged
&= gt=3B ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've made for overall<= br>>=3B versatility.
>=3B
>=3B Kevin
>=3B
>=3B On F= ri=2C Jun 17=2C 2011 at 8:55 AM=2C <=3Bmike@michaelplishka.com>=3B wro= te:
>=3B >=3B Thanks Rick.  =3BI really have never been into the= Line 6 stuff but it's just
>=3B >=3B circumstances more than prefer= ence.  =3BI need to head to a guitar store and
>=3B >=3B try one= out.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Mike
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B -----Original Message-----
>=3B >=3B From: Rick Walker [mailto:l= ooppool@cruzio.com]
>=3B >=3B Sent: Friday=2C June 17=2C 2011 5:23 A= M
>=3B >=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B= Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B Subject: Re: Re: = portalooper
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Dennis= Moser wrote:
>=3B >=3B>=3B Don't know about the M9=3B I'll defini= tely take Jeff's word on that=2C but
>=3B >=3B>=3B I know first-ha= nd that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23
>=3B >=3B>= =3B seconds ..
>=3B >=3B To me=2C  =3Bfor the hugest bang for th= e buck in a really small package
>=3B >=3B (slightly larger than two= boss styled single stomp box pedals=2C  =3B$400 USD)
>=3B >=3B = (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP
>=3B >=3B= processing.....modulation=2C reverbs=2C delays=2C filters=2C eqs
>=3B= >=3B distortions=2C specialty effects=2C etc.  =3Bplus a 20 send loo= per with one
>=3B >=3B level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilit= ies)
>=3B >=3B I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of= kit in the world.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B If you can't take an i= nstrument to a gig and only use this one effects
>=3B >=3B pedal to = make some serious music then
>=3B >=3B anything more expensive and f= ancier won't do it for you either.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I'm ju= st sayin'.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B rick walker
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B --
>=3B Ti= ll now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
&g= t=3B form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>=3B
>=3B - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>=3B
>= =3B Sound and Vision: =3B http://www.minds-eye.org
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Any questions, email: info (at) DAEDSOUND (dot) com Thanks for looking! --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 17:03:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 138F0183816; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=myP459r3AAAA:8 a=hiGGu2Y6AAAA:8 a=yFuDAPCIAAAA:8 a=fm0isEy4Kb9pUrynyQgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:03:48 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <34a660a4.b3ba5.1309e8ef943.Webtop.49@charter.net> Subject: RE: EchoLoop beta expiration MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 49 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Keep trying to reach Matthias Grob (or Andy Butler). Either one should be able to help you. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > All, > > I messaged Mathias last; thought I saw some earlier discussion about > dealing with the Echoloop expiration dates? > > Hallucination? > > Wishful thinking? > > Really looking forward to this little beastie being unleashed; it runs > on a little Dell netbook w/out a sweat! That sure saves on the aging > back. > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 17:12:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D08A183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cKSBNk3PH+hcZxqVxm0u7A4/qV3ILxZyU11V1+jc1jw=; b=lF+J/HcfZVBY72nNisTxwBP6nsjqjGNeEtMK+Am820U1EytnuKim/evXhl1qCkGIPp 49b3zPuWodQEFXwYwcxMl8AQxf7Kq01VXnAIgjTCTaB/4FTSlWl9OjeESrq5qtV6YloZ JEuHIGp2RENdpISZnFD5tlOdN9vQo3VrqeEAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WIWzu8D2492csruPYlwhQF9+dV67J8lixgPsO2dwNM9mFI/HEkbhBewHYfCTdcI00j vK2wlsXsufqCilwrXDD13bODMHBpzI29WsMhImH9dAqti0dUIqvF6zTEmFEYd0TOvfwJ A6dDVpV44jF8BqzybcxNdsydkHpKMPTBcFf2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:12:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174028c6135dc404a5eb7fa2 Resent-Message-ID: <7G66tC.A.OkB.Xs4-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:12:55 +0000 (UTC) --0015174028c6135dc404a5eb7fa2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per, thanks for the info. I found another thread where you explained how to set mobius up; I'm going to give it a try! On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM, marcus kirby > wrote: > > The issue is the inability to send each created track out to a specific > > ableton track. > > I'm of the opposite attitude in looping; I never run loops through > different outputs in order to post process them. I focus everything on > tone and balance and layer whatever effect processing needed as part > of the loop. My reason for choosing this context is that it allows me > to perform more fluently and also do more cut-up tricks and stuff to > the music. I experience a certain grade of incompatibility between the > two roles "musician" and "re-mixer" so I try to stick with being a > "musician that fakes remix" ;-) > > > Do I have to run a separate instance of mobius for each > > track? That seems silly. > > No. You go into Mobius "Congiguration > Track Setup" and assign the > plugin's tracks to separate outputs. Then you simply fetch those > separate outputs for inputs to your Ableton Live channel strips (you > know, that pull-down menu inside the input slot) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --0015174028c6135dc404a5eb7fa2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per, thanks for the info. I found another thread where you explained how to= set mobius up; I'm going to give it a try!=A0

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Per Boysen <= ;perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8= :50 AM, marcus kirby <marcusloo= ps@gmail.com> wrote:
> The issue is the inability to send each create= d track out to a specific
> ableton track.

I'm of the opposite attitude in looping; I never run loops throug= h
different outputs in order to post process them. I focus everything on
tone and balance and layer whatever effect processing needed as part
of the loop. My reason for choosing this context is that it allows me
to perform more fluently and also do more cut-up tricks and stuff to
the music. I experience a certain grade of incompatibility between the
two roles "musician" and "re-mixer" so I try to stick w= ith being a
"musician that fakes remix" ;-)

> Do I have to run a separate instance of mobius for each
> track? That seems silly.

No. You go into Mobius "Congiguration > Track Setup" and= assign the
plugin's tracks to separate outputs. Then you simply fetch those
separate outputs for inputs to your Ableton Live channel strips (you
know, that pull-down menu inside the input slot)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--0015174028c6135dc404a5eb7fa2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 17:37:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95398183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=msoCgoq4+wC9Ca3Asy/4Lfr0jjk5+d1ZIC0OsqYp5wk=; b=h6I41ESHWTbcRBcl05gFYrMjVs23QsJgokWZ2RlVZmoV8aK7dwsuumcHa0YlFdlPI6 rKRSOi+iSxeg04uUhMMmdRqW0ZV86yOyyLMRDGsWxIgMRog6Q0tGI2UJuk8Of3Iz3f4z K2hAI9bb7GxvunCDLxNT/2IGrDc8y4QWyg0Ms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=p+bRRcoaU6TVPhg9PynXzFnBtnDjzLkTT3cc7v1Wh+uxQlP1KkV1wzel4dA6m7Z5ex agPm/AWXP9jYEy1NcBfOfHhN/jXAwmV753Na15b0caaVp58nKgaP4/YxGPjFC25VMwX3 ml68fyyLX28H9x/oKPRB5DO8Dx4G0ncmmjOOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:37:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portalooper From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f38e4745d0c04a5ebd679 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:37:23 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f38e4745d0c04a5ebd679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would have gotten the M13 but for floor space issues, the addition of fully accessible loop function buttons and a stereo fx loop would be great! j ps, i hadn't played in too long due to illness(better now) but I picked up my axe yesterday and played this. Mostly M9 and DD 20 with some 2880. I also made extensive use of my Digi Timebender which is a very deep pedal that i have yet to fully learn...I posted this on ImprovFriday yesterday, someplace some of you may wany to check out :) http://improvfriday.ning.com http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Solstice_Song.mp3 On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I've got the M13 and I haven't been so impressed by a piece of hardware in > a looong time. Some beautiful stuff in there and very well thought out. > Highly recommended! > > Gareth, Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper > > From: billowhead@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9. Its an > > amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my age damaged > > ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've made for overall > > versatility. > > > > Kevin > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, wrote: > > > Thanks Rick. I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's > just > > > circumstances more than preference. I need to head to a guitar store > and > > > try one out. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] > > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper > > > > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > > >> Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but > > >> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 > > >> seconds .. > > > To me, for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package > > > (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals, $400 > USD) > > > (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP > > > processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs > > > distortions, specialty effects, etc. plus a 20 send looper with one > > > level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) > > > I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. > > > > > > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects > > > pedal to make some serious music then > > > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. > > > > > > I'm just sayin'. > > > > > > rick walker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > --20cf307f38e4745d0c04a5ebd679 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would have gotten the M13 but for floor space issues, the addition of ful= ly accessible loop function buttons and a stereo fx loop would be great!
j

ps, i hadn't played in too long due to illness(better no= w)=A0 but I picked up my axe yesterday and played this. Mostly M9 and DD 20= with some 2880. I also made extensive use of my Digi Timebender which is a= very deep pedal that i have yet to fully learn...I posted this on ImprovFr= iday yesterday, someplace some of you may wany to check out :) http://improvfriday.ning.com

http://dl.= dropbox.com/u/679233/Solstice_Song.mp3


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gareth Whittock &= lt;buddhamachine@live.co.uk= > wrote:
I've got the M13 and I haven't been so impressed by a piece of hard= ware in a looong time. Some beautiful stuff in there and very well thought = out.
Highly recommended!

Gareth, Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative musi= c plugins. http://sent= ientfx.com/

> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: Re= : portalooper
> From: billowhead@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
>
> I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9.= Its an
> amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my = age damaged
> ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've= made for overall
> versatility.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2= 011 at 8:55 AM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Rick. =A0= I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's just
> > circumstances more than preference. =A0I need to head to a guitar= store and
> > try one out.
> >
> > Mike
>= >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Walke= r [mailto:looppool= @cruzio.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM
> > To: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com
> > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
> > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper
> >
> > On 7/22/64= 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:
> >> Don't know about the M9= ; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but
> >> I = know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23
> >> seconds ..
> > To me, =A0for the hugest bang for the= buck in a really small package
> > (slightly larger than two boss= styled single stomp box pedals, =A0$400 USD)
> > (three simultane= ous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP
> > processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs
> = > distortions, specialty effects, etc. =A0plus a 20 send looper with one=
> > level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities)
> >= ; I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. > >
> > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and onl= y use this one effects
> > pedal to make some serious music then> > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you eit= her.
> >
> > I'm just sayin'.
> >
> > r= ick walker
> >
> >
>
>
>
> -- =
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to h= ave a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound = and Vision:=A0 http:= //www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
=

--20cf307f38e4745d0c04a5ebd679-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 17:46:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 310F0183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QG+f51Uxeo+k5T+mrMZKlO2qB5poXdoQvVqXs/XhViw=; b=Cq6C0iX1UDzbGESAak929Pl0Ga4+G0LtCGsTXBXTx6xq+2/o0ak6Ni9G86w780wzCU PtxgY8AQ7GULusNeQmoQZosrPGpR+KExOJIM9o3BlAMKV6WE+dJ8ern8opDMlfcYRUuZ QGANs3fDRJzm7GqM3S4hYR7t+sh00EJ3annmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nH10gSyTWJg7y4IAvVESWKctYiDp2pNGlWCz8ki9Z1j8m5R8vZij1jJIoy7GKD06yp qLxa3TUcG+MWk/37Brjt8M3pDvx4D7w9VbBAFe+y+mJweZ/2oAPMaz6/SZ2P2HWX9Gsm cci1cDUkQSaccxj4d+UvLafVqTAsjuEHhmBOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <34a660a4.b3ba5.1309e8ef943.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <34a660a4.b3ba5.1309e8ef943.Webtop.49@charter.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:46:45 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop beta expiration From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Ted! Just got a note from Andy with details. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:03 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn = wrote: > Keep trying to reach Matthias Grob (or Andy Butler). > > Either one should be able to help you. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > >> All, >> >> I messaged Mathias last; =A0thought I saw some earlier discussion about >> dealing with the Echoloop expiration dates? >> >> Hallucination? >> >> Wishful thinking? >> >> Really looking forward to this little beastie being unleashed; it runs >> on a little Dell netbook w/out a sweat! That sure saves on the aging >> back. >> >> Best, >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 17:57:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E9A0183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OT+kczpInea5ZriEKKRAE2atuB3vxRgtKyGFY+JDPpk=; b=YSJSxJxeJBTqIMUNBkOlG5/xwZ0jDZ8gCrxyuHHE+6tv8zEsdYbe9BWaje8K14hRww QtSdmOUCZMkiKhdq2pOma8th1lF9vjOR+sxUTp1nd/tC5Kq8hPYH4VcC2PZu5F2U66US +DwHYr4xKRnTmL+ZKBg2Hc3cPhwW/rQa4SEJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WM/Vw5fcYeDQYVUo5wgLcqKY2G9+dlkQLHqn4FtBM0KMDdvyP2CDRoOKl3LZz1a2cw rLeCv+mVhySlNtpcIiVdExCkUH/tVEs+gUAh7+gAW/cXhNSaED11xuAKWPennAX1zZXA KTungPOHuVN56oWC07HSwMhwreWY+DcuLIGMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:57:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Audiomulch and Mobius From: John Singletary To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Hello All, I have a question that I am hoping someone may be able to help me with. I am using a Motu Ultra lite interface which contains 8 designated and isolated input and output jacks and using Audiomulch has a host for the Mobius VST plug-in. When I configure my patcher set-up in Audiomulch to simply go from input to output (i.e. in 1 send to out 1 and in 4 to out 4 etc.) it works fine and each input and output is correctly routed and isolated from others which is important because I am interested in going out to multiple amps and speakers for a surround effect in my performances. However, when I apply the same Audiomulch patching logic to the Mobius VST, which has the same type of ins and outs, graphically speaking, that any other device has it will only function has a device capable of sending out and receiving signal from In/Outs 1 and 2. It is necessary, for my purposes, to have Mobius function as a device capable of sending and receiving isolated information from all 8 tracks. Does anyone know how I need to configure the Mobius menus in order for this to be possible. I have tried for hours, using all types of different settings and cannot seem to make it work. Any help with this issue would be WONDERFUL. Thanks a lot. Best, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 18:07:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A268F183C07; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=343T8RoHk4jJuExFWKZrhQuShIRuIHy6L1bdyZ9liO4=; b=XFE0iT77jyBvePx6EdOB8FD6xE7nGnw5Vq7dsiuu3pSgh7r4Mjqnj3sPUsaNadRyZQ w3a3iK6HydTFw8gQBw0zO0D4S42FJ1SoK3J/2Ba9UlS2h23c9QKmYL47Sk9NGswWpEvJ TNsIgfUNpM4P63IHvcm1lHQoADnXx+AALM0ps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=WNOc39JLfCdMiotTE1Mayk+fqJaypSnedA1qMYKrsTXHFAZFkHciP3/jzOrnVwXJre XrsQJ17eqrAr1Rs6vOkGh50M4DLozdm2oesnyMuRJjgLDIS6w1mvraZfnogQAEP88Qf3 iYhk0ROGWiSx7pmfXsBRTj9jJNpIjp9OSz20U= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Charlie M Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:06:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: KP3+FCB1010 vs. DD20+KP3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530ec477b86e04a5ec4191 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:07:17 +0000 (UTC) --002354530ec477b86e04a5ec4191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am thinking about trying out the KP3 as a looper/loop mangler in my reggae/dub group. Problem is, I am a bass player and my hands are not free all the time to start/stop loops. I see that the KP3 has MIDI I/O, but I couldn't find anything in the manual or the MIDI implementation chart in regards to the looper program being able to start/stop loops. Does anyone know if I can use an FCB1010 to control that? My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i need a delay pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and then just use the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool new delay pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the looper+FX patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more batteries/power supplies to deal with. Any thoughts? Charlie --002354530ec477b86e04a5ec4191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am thinking about trying out the KP3 as a looper/loop mangler in my regga= e/dub group. Problem is, I am a bass player and my hands are not free all t= he time to start/stop loops. I see that the KP3 has MIDI I/O, but I couldn&= #39;t find anything in the manual or the MIDI implementation chart in regar= ds to the looper program being able to start/stop loops. Does anyone know i= f I can use an FCB1010 to control that?=A0

My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i = need a delay pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and = then just use the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a coo= l new delay pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the= looper+FX patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more batteries= /power supplies to deal with.=A0

Any thoughts?=A0


Charlie
--002354530ec477b86e04a5ec4191-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 18:11:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAC9E183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 631578417/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.199/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.199 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AowCAB+Y+01YbRnH/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgImDK+eIYnBJYviy0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,382,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="631578417" Message-ID: <4DFB98DA.20509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:11:38 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: portalooper References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but >> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 >> seconds .. > To me, for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package > I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. Well the Vox VDL-1 is certainly a contender, although it's pre-fx section isn't any match for the line 6 stuff. Loopwise it's much stronger, and pricewise somewhat leaner. ...may be a bit larger footprint. > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects > pedal to make some serious music then > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. :-) tho' I'd curse the lack of Multiply andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 18:15:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D879E183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hxH7LGnRne5DkGeI4oLNB3lV6DahfMPeraEKcB3ccJQ=; b=NsW0OhbUAQWQpfwRvZOu1r/NoE1wmXl/3YF2GQUGNYcL/TxX4eY9ROp4WoXmrMyBo8 2Hd2zDMunqveleamxI99qrLuW0llB9hA4svLp3xnE344FSChPY9iowTDMmRpoRAN5ng4 UHhr96hjYSw9kMy8aE79uy+WDfye+pUGU+UeU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iMELPA9q+A/Fd7jmE/wyh32Zrgz3NcDK3x0Co01KI84OfwMUUGVVR+pAApAvgUYI6/ eQBoi1STOoobSmRPGW0vVtX8oq8rrrllfzOfUfibSEhDu95GkGA6zK951zp+oK85WlyN YpwaxH8pVJYbQw//sHA4EKiis9rkKZs+WHDMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:15:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_rgmmD.A.d4C.Dn5-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:15:31 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:12 PM, marcus kirby wrote= : > Per, thanks for the info. I found another thread where you explained how = to > set mobius up; I'm going to give it a try! Cool, good luck! Since you want to incorporate remix style editing in Live I guess you want to run Live as the sync master. Then (if on Mac) you should make sure you use the Mobius VST and not the Mobius AU because Host Sync is broken in the AU version. If you want to use Mobius as the sync master (less click track feel and more "playable"), here is a text describing how to set up that sync. So many people kept asking this on the loopers list so I finally saved it on my hard drive to copy and paste when someone out there needs a hint. Here's a shortlist for how to set up Mobius as tempo master in Ableton Live. I'm only covering settings that matter for the synchronization here. In Mac OS X: 1. Open "Applications/Utilities/Audio MIDI Setup.app" 2. "Window/Show MIDI Window" 3. Double-click the icon "IAC Driver" 4. In the window "IAC Properties", make sure at least one IAC Bus port is enabled. 5. Close the Audio MIDI Setup. In Ableton Live's mixer window: 1. Open Mobius plugin on an Audio Track. 2. In this Audio Track's "Audio From" slot, select "A-Return". 3. If you intend to use multiple parallel Mobius looper output tracks: Create as many audio tracks in the Live mixer as you want to use separate outputs of Mobius looop tracks (maximum 7, since the first track that hosts the Mobius plugin will provide audio output from Mobius track 1). 4. Set them all to "Monitor =3D In". 5. For each one of the Live Mixer tracks you have to hold down the mouse inside the slot under the "Audio From" header and chose the appropriate Mobius output track. 6. At the left top corner, enable the box named "EXT" to tell Live that it is to work in slave sync mode. 7. Set up Audio Tracks that fetches the "Audio From" from your "Ext. In" (which is the Apogee) and the matching Apogee input. 8. Let these input channel's "Audio To" slot remain set to "Master" but tweak a full send by the "A" knob to "Return Track A". 9. On "Return Track A" go down to the slot named "Audio To" and select the Audio Track that you opened the Mobius plugin on. Under that slot is a second slot. Let this second slot remain targeting "Track In" (on the Mobius track. This means the audio input will be looped on Mobius Selected Track, making it possible for you to use the same MIDI Note button/pedal etc for commands like Record, Overdub, Multiply, Undo - sparing you a lot of tap dancing ;-) In Ableton Live's Preferences: 1. In the Audio Tab, configure the physical inputs and outputs you need. 2. In the MIDI/Sync Tab, enable "Sync" for the "IAC Bus". Click the little triangle and make sure it is set to MIDI Clock rather than MTC (MIDI Time Code). 3. For MIDI control inputs, enable "Remote" (your APC40 and whatever MIDI In port the PMC-10 comes in through). In Mobius: 1. Open "Mobius/Configuration/Presets". 2. Under the "General" tab: "Mute Mode =3D Start", "Round Mode" enabled, "Interface Mode =3D Loop". 3. Under the "Switch" tab: "Switch Quantize =3D Cycle". 4. Under the "Synchronization" tab: "Sync Mode =3D Out", "Mute Sync Mode =3D Send Stop/Start stop clocks", "Out Sync Realign Mode =3D Retrigger Loop". 5. Also under the "Synchronization": Set the Minumum Tempo and Maximum Tempo to a range that covers your playing (I use Min=3D61 BPM, Max=3D120 BPM). The blessing of this is twofold:(1) =C2=A0It allows you to also start with an extremely short first loop or an extremely long first loop and still get the calculated tempo (sent into Ableton to hook up with) within your show's convenient tempo range and (2) no tempo dependent effect plugins will fuck up because they can't coup with a sudden extreme tempo. 6. Open "Mobius/Configuration/Global Parameters" and make sure "Monitor Audio Input" is off (not ticked). 7. In "Mobius/Configuration/Track Setup", make sure all tracks fetch signal from "Plugin Input Port 1" (you have to select first "1" at the upper bar of eight tracks and then adjust the drop-down menu down left at "Plugin Input Port:". This way you set all eight tracks to "Plugin Input Port =3D 1"). 8. Open "Mobius/Configuration/MIDI Devices": - as "Plugin Output" chose "IAC Bus". - as "Plugin Input Devices" chose the physical MIDI In port where your pedal comes in, the MIDI pedal you want to use to control the looping in Mobius (this is the direct snagging I mentioned earlier, that side-steps Ableton's normal MIDI routing and makes Mobius work as smoothly as a simple EDP). You can carry out these preferences settings in Mobius standalone, if you like. If doing in the Mobius plug-in you open the Mobius plug-in's menus by right-clicking, or ctrl-clicking, the Mobius GUI window. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 18:37:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDB8C183C07; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-17_08:2011-06-17,2011-06-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=29 spamscore=29 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106170140 Subject: Re: portalooper From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:37:04 -0700 Message-id: References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:37:07 +0000 (UTC) For what its worth-- I am a die hard analog tubes in the path guy. A tone snob who associates my sense of self worth with how my guitar and amp combo sound. Its a terrible dysfunction that sucks money out my wallet at an astonishing rate. I share this because, it is in this context that I was totally won over by the Line 6 m13. (just bigger box than the M9... virtually the same guts.) It fast became my main guitar front end. And I even love its simple looper. As long as you pump it into a good tube amp, the sounds are quite good. Inspiring even. And I never liked the sound of models before.... Daniel On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9. Its an > amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my age damaged > ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've made for overall > versatility. > > Kevin > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, wrote: >> Thanks Rick. I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's just >> circumstances more than preference. I need to head to a guitar store and >> try one out. >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] >> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Re: portalooper >> >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >>> Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but >>> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 >>> seconds .. >> To me, for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package >> (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals, $400 USD) >> (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP >> processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs >> distortions, specialty effects, etc. plus a 20 send looper with one >> level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) >> I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. >> >> If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects >> pedal to make some serious music then >> anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. >> >> I'm just sayin'. >> >> rick walker >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 18:47:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35CD3183C09; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a7bfv6WJCW6XLY5A28wtiDhpxQVga9UiSghHVIGMZWM=; b=hsydbXGVuk4Pd/vcKzR2cTXSzrTdrP2d62p96E/KNDH9MtEcX9JehCyR3w/mLCn89z BMQlLAcE9gZcnzS0vRpa1w6Oy4i+ciwq0Se1Mv0TvliAE9+fssNjBgxfnJIOLfIpLV42 3BDGxlERPGcvgPGzE8Q5we9sTCDhQQTIHGvck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PuKxcYbJRwQq6cg4wrEo9SWmiRrU5gk/h/E2WzKmPC4s+sPPiq4nJ8kgMyyf6xO0v6 ILDyWGEkbHY89pO7a9OFIzA4YB4LoCdR6o+gwKtAl7UBiBNC9w3uMRopNxE7PyrDcNrh OkGco3Mr6DZ53UkXSS20sY/XWZASY8EgZfXeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:47:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portalooper From: Tim Clement To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fd4f9c1019304a5ecd196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:47:37 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fd4f9c1019304a5ecd196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can anyone help me...I can't figure out how to unsubscribe to LD? On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I would have gotten the M13 but for floor space issues, the addition of > fully accessible loop function buttons and a stereo fx loop would be great! > > j > > ps, i hadn't played in too long due to illness(better now) but I picked up > my axe yesterday and played this. Mostly M9 and DD 20 with some 2880. I also > made extensive use of my Digi Timebender which is a very deep pedal that i > have yet to fully learn...I posted this on ImprovFriday yesterday, someplace > some of you may wany to check out :) http://improvfriday.ning.com > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Solstice_Song.mp3 > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gareth Whittock < > buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote: > >> I've got the M13 and I haven't been so impressed by a piece of hardware >> in a looong time. Some beautiful stuff in there and very well thought out. >> Highly recommended! >> >> Gareth, Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ >> >> > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700 >> > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper >> > From: billowhead@gmail.com >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > >> > I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9. Its an >> > amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my age damaged >> > ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've made for overall >> > versatility. >> > >> > Kevin >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, wrote: >> > > Thanks Rick. I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's >> just >> > > circumstances more than preference. I need to head to a guitar store >> and >> > > try one out. >> > > >> > > Mike >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] >> > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM >> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper >> > > >> > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> > >> Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, >> but >> > >> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23 >> > >> seconds .. >> > > To me, for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package >> > > (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals, $400 >> USD) >> > > (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP >> > > processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs >> > > distortions, specialty effects, etc. plus a 20 send looper with one >> > > level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) >> > > I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the >> world. >> > > >> > > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects >> > > pedal to make some serious music then >> > > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. >> > > >> > > I'm just sayin'. >> > > >> > > rick walker >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> trouble. >> > >> > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> > >> > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > >> > > -- *Tim Clement* phone: 416.536.8172 mobile: 647.832.8172 fax: 416.519.1816 --90e6ba3fd4f9c1019304a5ecd196 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone help me...I can't figure out how to unsubscribe to LD?
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.c= om> wrote:
I would have gotten the M13 but for floor s= pace issues, the addition of fully accessible loop function buttons and a s= tereo fx loop would be great!

j

ps, i hadn't played in too long due to illness(better now)= =A0 but I picked up my axe yesterday and played this. Mostly M9 and DD 20 w= ith some 2880. I also made extensive use of my Digi Timebender which is a v= ery deep pedal that i have yet to fully learn...I posted this on ImprovFrid= ay yesterday, someplace some of you may wany to check out :) http://improvfriday.ning.com

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Solstice_Song.mp3


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gareth Whittock <= span dir=3D"ltr"><buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
I've got the M13 and I haven't been so impressed by a piece of hard= ware in a looong time. Some beautiful stuff in there and very well thought = out.
Highly recommended!

Gareth, Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative musi= c plugins. http://sent= ientfx.com/

> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: Re= : portalooper
> From: billowhead@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
>
> I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9.= Its an
> amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my = age damaged
> ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've= made for overall
> versatility.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2= 011 at 8:55 AM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Rick. =A0= I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's just
> > circumstances more than preference. =A0I need to head to a guitar= store and
> > try one out.
> >
> > Mike
>= >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Walke= r [mailto:looppool= @cruzio.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM
> > To: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com
> > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
> > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper
> >
> > On 7/22/64= 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:
> >> Don't know about the M9= ; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but
> >> I = know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23
> >> seconds ..
> > To me, =A0for the hugest bang for the= buck in a really small package
> > (slightly larger than two boss= styled single stomp box pedals, =A0$400 USD)
> > (three simultane= ous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP
> > processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs
> = > distortions, specialty effects, etc. =A0plus a 20 send looper with one=
> > level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities)
> >= ; I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world. > >
> > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and onl= y use this one effects
> > pedal to make some serious music then> > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you eit= her.
> >
> > I'm just sayin'.
> >
> > r= ick walker
> >
> >
>
>
>
> -- =
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to h= ave a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound = and Vision:=A0 http:= //www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
=




--
Tim Clement
phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172
mobile:=A0 6= 47.832.8172
fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 416.519.1816

--90e6ba3fd4f9c1019304a5ecd196-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 18:52:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A6FD183C16; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=T58IOcUs002LTB9pOk+WCCjyRxyCc8BKf7nldvVJSpQ=; b=mufBmDU55uda8uJbh8OCHM+55dN31N8KKbkxdGbfeZlfzglQS2kKnv1h/DJtlGAEry Tkb/t9zjwSy+M2AxWHphMqJiZJ107ozfshVTHc7aVNOiiewdaJy2yM73Wy3GgpEByR1h Idl93C9U3GxSC7oBZntyWgFpBCTadGAJgFfg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=KNRUJEo1k8DMro86Y4dAMUUBOniEIeirEMjDLUYoJAhFjIBeDy1PB9YjVPHLmRId+C q0PSHJnOE8/h8Gt3TYVK71V++J1QrXw23gHOhYs7VRNbxz+G4AjPOAVW5CXIV90HE3zh W9f1lpgQICPnqz58/h4OIKqm/NfTp+AHe4rhk= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-18--683028532 Subject: Re: portalooper Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:50:53 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:52:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-18--683028532 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Tim Clement wrote: > Can anyone help me...I can't figure out how to unsubscribe to LD? Tim: =46rom Loopers Delight http://www.loopersdelight.com/list/LoopList.html: - - - - - I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do = that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand. To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the = subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your = unsubscribe request to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun = of you and you will feel like a dork. I'm having trouble subscribing/unsubscribing to the list. What's wrong? Usually people have trouble because they try to have a conversation with = me or someone while subscribing. Don't do that. The subscription process = is automated, and the mailing list server is very stupid. Idle = conversation totally confuses it. It only understands the words = subscribe and unsubscribe, nothing else. It also will totally fail to = understand the witty quote in your signature file. So turn those sig = files off! If you say anything other than "subscribe" it makes a confused = whimpering sound and then replies to you with a help file. You may want = to consider reading the help file before resending the exact same = subscribe mail 30 times. (you'd be surprised, people do this!) other common problems: - Don't use the quotes on "subscribe." It's just subscribe - Subscribe is spelled S - U - B - S - C - R - I - B - E. - Make sure html and rich text formatting is turned off in your mail = program. - Make sure you are sending your request to the correct address noted = above, and you have it spelled right. If you are on the digest, make = sure you use the digest request address. If you still have a problem, send us mail at: = listmanager@loopers-delight.com - - - - - On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Tim Clement wrote: > Can anyone help me...I can't figure out how to unsubscribe to LD? >=20 > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: > I would have gotten the M13 but for floor space issues, the addition = of fully accessible loop function buttons and a stereo fx loop would be = great!=20 >=20 > j >=20 > ps, i hadn't played in too long due to illness(better now) but I = picked up my axe yesterday and played this. Mostly M9 and DD 20 with = some 2880. I also made extensive use of my Digi Timebender which is a = very deep pedal that i have yet to fully learn...I posted this on = ImprovFriday yesterday, someplace some of you may wany to check out :) = http://improvfriday.ning.com >=20 > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Solstice_Song.mp3 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gareth Whittock = wrote: > I've got the M13 and I haven't been so impressed by a piece of = hardware in a looong time. Some beautiful stuff in there and very well = thought out. > Highly recommended! >=20 > Gareth, Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ >=20 > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper > > From: billowhead@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9. Its an > > amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my age = damaged > > ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've made for overall > > versatility. > >=20 > > Kevin > >=20 > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, wrote: > > > Thanks Rick. I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but = it's just > > > circumstances more than preference. I need to head to a guitar = store and > > > try one out. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] > > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper > > > > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > > >> Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on = that, but > > >> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up = to 23 > > >> seconds .. > > > To me, for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package > > > (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals, = $400 USD) > > > (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP > > > processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs > > > distortions, specialty effects, etc. plus a 20 send looper with = one > > > level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities) > > > I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the = world. > > > > > > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one = effects > > > pedal to make some serious music then > > > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either. > > > > > > I'm just sayin'. > > > > > > rick walker > > > > > > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to = have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble. > >=20 > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >=20 > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Tim Clement > phone: 416.536.8172 > mobile: 647.832.8172 > fax: 416.519.1816 >=20 --Apple-Mail-18--683028532 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Tim Clement wrote:

Can anyone help me...I can't figure out how to unsubscribe to LD?

Tim:

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On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Tim Clement wrote:

Can anyone help me...I can't figure out how to unsubscribe to LD?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
I would have gotten the M13 but for floor space issues, the addition of fully accessible loop function buttons and a stereo fx loop would be great!

j

ps, i hadn't played in too long due to illness(better now)  but I picked up my axe yesterday and played this. Mostly M9 and DD 20 with some 2880. I also made extensive use of my Digi Timebender which is a very deep pedal that i have yet to fully learn...I posted this on ImprovFriday yesterday, someplace some of you may wany to check out :) http://improvfriday.ning.com

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Solstice_Song.mp3


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
I've got the M13 and I haven't been so impressed by a piece of hardware in a looong time. Some beautiful stuff in there and very well thought out.
Highly recommended!

Gareth, Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/

> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:02:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: Re: portalooper
> From: billowhead@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> I will wholeheartedly support that recommendation for the M9. Its an
> amazing box for what it can do and it sounds great (to my age damaged
> ears at least). Easily the best gear purchase I've made for overall
> versatility.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Rick.  I really have never been into the Line 6 stuff but it's just
> > circumstances more than preference.  I need to head to a guitar store and
> > try one out.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:23 AM
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: portalooper
> >
> > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:
> >> Don't know about the M9; I'll definitely take Jeff's word on that, but
> >> I know first-hand that the DD-20 can handle the looping side up to 23
> >> seconds ..
> > To me,  for the hugest bang for the buck in a really small package
> > (slightly larger than two boss styled single stomp box pedals,  $400 USD)
> > (three simultaneous multiple effects from all kinds of DSP
> > processing.....modulation, reverbs, delays, filters, eqs
> > distortions, specialty effects, etc.  plus a 20 send looper with one
> > level of undo and 1/2 speed/reverse capabilities)
> > I think the Line 6 M-9 is the single coolest piece of kit in the world.
> >
> > If you can't take an instrument to a gig and only use this one effects
> > pedal to make some serious music then
> > anything more expensive and fancier won't do it for you either.
> >
> > I'm just sayin'.
> >
> > rick walker
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>




--
Tim Clement
phone:   416.536.8172
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--Apple-Mail-18--683028532-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 18:56:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38F3C183C17; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ePL0QkTYbLgUghfJ7uf/pJlpCKwAZxUao9hSRSj0LZ4=; b=DazOM16PeHZsDBSQmN7PZqPVFNoDq5NwwN5eZ3sSUPBcSC6cKdIZkdpBY+Rm1AE1y/ /kSAQs63oAheC7FA7Ze/ojd9/AQmQqxt1WtxHoQoqJrHP+xPUmTbAA+amCl73A7egYfK DXx/fCqT/PUSdg1BdbSur0Kanin0EWm/8K3YM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PJgBTScYGRyRrH7hGN2/DFQJYOWvo6d2D9yf3PIqaGgRzgxKNA4NODUPK2bHpzTHcN 4NkpB0wPp5LibDfPljFs7P72dxEyUIQhG5jliWrzwM+zOwlpm5arqQVifcbPZ8H5yPTI sKVtv0M2zEqkxHZFZpgRIyTV6JeD57/HSA8/w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:56:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audiomulch and Mobius From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b6c937f38104a5ecf2f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:56:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b6c937f38104a5ecf2f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:57 PM, John Singletary < singletaryj472@gmail.com> wrote: > It is necessary, for my purposes, to > have Mobius function as a device capable of sending and receiving > isolated information from all 8 tracks. Mobius has a concept called "ports" which can be configured differently for each track. This is done in the Track Setup window you get when you select the "Track Setups..." menu item. Each track has a numbered tab. Within the tab for a give track look down and find the two selectors labeled "Plugin Input Port" and "Plugin Output Port". These have pulldown menus with port numbers. A port is simply a stereo pair of audio channels, for plugins in AudioMulch these are displayed as "pins" on the little rectangle representing Mobius. Pins 1 and 2 on the top correspond to input port 1, pins 3 and 4 are input port 2, etc. It sounds like you want each of the 8 tracks to receive on ports input ports 1-8 and send on output ports 1-8. Once you configure that then you can draw wires in AudioMulch to connect the Mobius pins to the channels of your audio hardware. Jeff --001636c5b6c937f38104a5ecf2f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:57 PM, John Singletary = <singletaryj472@gmail.com> wrote:
differently for each track. =A0This is done in the Track Setup window<= /div>
you get when you select the "Track Setups..." menu item= .

Each track has a numbered tab. =A0Within the tab= for a give track
look down and find the two selectors labeled "Plugin Input Port&q= uot;
and "Plugin Output Port". =A0These have pulldown m= enus with port
numbers.

A port is simply= a stereo pair of audio channels, for plugins in
AudioMulch these are displayed as "pins" on the little recta= ngle
representing Mobius. =A0Pins 1 and 2 on the top correspond t= o
input port 1, pins 3 and 4 are input port 2, etc. =A0

It sounds like you want each of the 8 tracks to receive on p= orts
input ports 1-8 and send on output ports 1-8. =A0Once you co= nfigure
that then you can draw wires in AudioMulch to connect the= Mobius
pins to the channels of your audio hardware.

= Jeff


--001636c5b6c937f38104a5ecf2f6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 19:58:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99F57183860; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=79cUuZUlue0ddgSusnUF2Rr2N8FTWRc1WFeX2kSsTTQ=; b=swqLkboP7BFXqLhm8SOh/ak6i5XR4XbX25oZvK0DL+QemdOHvVzTp1BRERkyrmAdKx pZzHMbCN9EIJetUqGxvKK5ZbxW6jfyvR4yaUs1JxidnlH19dshpTI99DO0Pbr/xPtlCG /NITagm3CjRfBfIzOihKz2/C2Dlc2QZ8LYUvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=d65i4bh89rBZ8A2KVQzVwaQRe74Ke/IZgj00zuQ0eD+xKyBIdF8V6y9DN0KwWiofxZ RxcCUl/GlIn5ixEAV8vhlgdK9eDMdv4bMOXsuUlXA+EJNHA7SyeBNDwr807pYz8OsdUv WRx3Untveg6iaGq2eCPUesvMm4wdcmEgA8ZEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:58:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audiomulch and Mobius From: John Singletary To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <8mnXS.A.WwE.8H7-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, thanks for the feedback. I have tried assigning ports in this manner but it still does not seem to make Mobius to behave in the way that you described. I think I may possibly be confused with the "initialize" options in the Mobius track set up and the "active track" pulldown menu. When I click "initialize" or "Initialize all" it seems to reset my ports. Maybe these boxes have something to do with what I am trying to do. Thanks again for your help. Best, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 20:08:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59EF41838EE; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=ckc1ziITX_eTzHlosoUA:9 a=JtdlDu7oZxpadtVy-OUA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=TmFDIRET_pB2qCRh:21 a=pkt4bXKowOV0PfXs:21 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:08:30 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <360c8b69.b5a18.1309f38138e.Webtop.49@charter.net> Subject: Re: portalooper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 49 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:08:31 +0000 (UTC) I have to say, I agree. In my "alt" small portable rig the M13 is quite nice - if your plug it in to a tube amp. Direct to a PA (or board) without an amp is a recipe for true tone-suck-ville . . . believe me I've tried. But one of those little SansAmp pedals in front of it perks up the tone quite nicely (advice received from a number of peeps on LD). I am through hauling around heavy amps and cabs anymore. I won't say I'm a tone snob, but I used to work for Seymour Duncan, and tone is important to me. I never actually thought much of SansAmp stuff untill I tried it with the M13. And I hated the tone I was getting (direct) with the M13 alone until I did. I am still having too much fun with my MaxMSP rig these days to bother too much with the little rig at home though.I am in sonic nirvana. Ted On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > ...As long as you pump it into a good tube amp, the sounds are quite > good. Inspiring even. And I never liked the sound of models > before.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 20:14:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5225D183607; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sl+6j8EfHalYwYD3bwdC39I7VEJ28ZEMAm3HFJk6ax0=; b=khwcgGewha0zBDQgYXu+NvVDDTh2kP/bH+Jimg9IbEUcL6KbekUlArKDSIi4Q2ULdV tHiJqGNTLkm4F7a6eZq5USur5QSwZcuAR8CUCO4jdsC+T6dv/pb2Op/e0uKAGEdCL5SO +4fEEspYdczrO3JhVt5B8SoctTT0DKa5hE4W0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D08jUMZnHNuwnoX7mHtbaR2e5sBgM3YSNifMm2xgtd1lfGb1JByJTCTh4WLBesrcoj ksLjpw2ACBJE1D1eCk6P62riSkArgiGm+xfh/Co4gh/MoUQV78MeWWlBlwpWcNNmoCNx el1FFKDLgXqadWXgqV0+7eVm51NfIH+X1Oq9Q= Message-ID: <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:14:15 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper) References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:14:12 +0000 (UTC) With all that discussion, I'd like to see the differences between those three things they have right now. If I get it right: M13: four effects at once additional looper two exp pedal connectors stereo FX send/return complex scene logic big (and expensive) M9: three effects at once additional looper two exp pedal connectors medium size (and price) M5: one effect no looper one exp pedal connector small size (and price) Correct? From what I see, the M9 seems to be the way to go from these options... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 20:18:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E85A18368D; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=surWYdE9hrmnQF1IEy50YzlAN0XRNYwMN2mpRTT2Fh0=; b=GcEdf9lAKfX9JmR+tcq7ZdtxqeDEGDCnbKSK5SsctERXJkf6JPJk5lj1ZknW0r51bH pWgmTZjcxglJMx3SLUA5GrGdDO1nVD7eFfaKEvLTHl6z4yHGsGWWDcXHA3oFlHqnSRh+ z2ERgohUJo1u/pXOipRKWqiuutvMhenn0HMo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LdzPYIle5ecKEg7Vr+r4kjACJAwFtY3ZylKChA/l22kFxoeo1h5LVgo/42A/Z/Ygx+ frGKs3dtsQecgMM2Bd/VeubSgHo++zCGIeudon6cTMRutROo/PE7PY2HgSlDWF6rw31A tb9w5IKz/mDNSoiTmdb4SxwBbRPXizKCOziDM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:18:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audiomulch and Mobius From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b3979db46d78a8604a5ee16e5 Resent-Message-ID: <2OcM-.A.YQF.Za7-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:18:33 +0000 (UTC) --485b3979db46d78a8604a5ee16e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The "Initialize" and "Initialize All" buttons are what you use if you want to throw away all of your changes and start over, they set all of the setup parameters to their default values. You normally do not use these unless you need to make a lot of changes and you will end up changing fewer things if you start over from the default configuration than trying to modify an existing configuration. To change ports, just select them in the port selector widgets then click Ok. Jeff On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM, John Singletary wrote: > Jeff, thanks for the feedback. I have tried assigning ports in this > manner but it still does not seem to make Mobius to behave in the way > that you described. I think I may possibly be confused with the > "initialize" options in the Mobius track set up and the "active track" > pulldown menu. When I click "initialize" or "Initialize all" it seems > to reset my ports. Maybe these boxes have something to do with what I > am trying to do. Thanks again for your help. > Best, > > John > > --485b3979db46d78a8604a5ee16e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The "Initialize" and "Initialize All" buttons are what = you use if you want to=A0
throw away all of your changes and start over= , they set all of the setup
parameters to their default values. = =A0 You normally do not use
these unless you need to make a lot of changes and you will
= end up changing fewer things if you start over from the default configurati= on
than trying to modify an existing configuration.

To change ports, just select them in the port selector widge= ts then click Ok.

Jeff


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM= , John Singletary <singletaryj472@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff, thanks for the feedback. I have tried= assigning ports in this
manner but it still does not seem to make Mobius to behave in the way
that you described. =A0I think I may possibly be confused with the
"initialize" options in the Mobius track set up and the "act= ive track"
pulldown menu. =A0When I click "initialize" or "Initialize a= ll" it seems
to reset my ports. Maybe these boxes have something to do with what I
am trying to do. Thanks again for your help.
Best,

John


--485b3979db46d78a8604a5ee16e5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 20:40:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30FC8183C07; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pvu5ZJ77Ue02q4eJ+PhpdUEOqBcky/tKo2DJ8Tk2xlM=; b=u9apmxPdfOBBTGJzIgUHzXZcTvUMhEqnOUqEfPGw3USLUnHYmsvpOheDnNCNgziQKJ 8fOzYqUlXhsOyNA1OJWjmUvxa2rQ827fC71WUUuhJMU+73HVgywf9EVbuFnzaxoKowMB uU+vUWWr9jOormiYM/kmx/hiaT1G1KxW65ZbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wf1l38WZfNEOPaa6tQyStAV4co/uFsmLTtxqpYnE1wlzEwKJnh5sB0bHx8qlL5ZpsF CGtcuq8LLtyv8Sy/nVFnmNc3gfLT4WMBwTss6NESq+HqmcBBVFh2AHDS9Y2V051U/X7R 6sIxzF40sDh6VEDHkbmOwUr+38UXxs6f0lOyQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:40:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portalooper From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cc62558cac04a5ee6693 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:40:45 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cc62558cac04a5ee6693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sure Tim I hope my song didn't drive you out but here ya go! >From the same place you subscribed to it. all the best, Jeff _______________________________ *I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand.* To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your unsubscribe request to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun of you and you will feel like a dork. ______________________________ On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Tim Clement wrote: > Can anyone help me...I can't figure out how to unsubscribe to LD? > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> I would have gotten the M13 but for floor space issues, the addition of >> fully accessible loop function buttons and a stereo fx loop would be great! >> >> j >> >> ps, i hadn't played in too long due to illness(better now) but I picked >> up my axe yesterday and played this. Mostly M9 and DD 20 with some 2880. I >> also made extensive use of my Digi Timebender which is a very deep pedal >> that i have yet to fully learn...I posted this on ImprovFriday yesterday, >> someplace some of you may wany to check out :) >> http://improvfriday.ning.com >> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Solstice_Song.mp3 >> >> >> --20cf3071cc62558cac04a5ee6693 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure Tim I hope my song didn't drive you out but here ya go!

Fro= m the same place you subscribed to it.

all the best,

Jeff
= _______________________________
I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe = from Looper's Delight. How do I=20 do that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you=20 understand.

To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "uns= ubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything e= lse, to:

Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com


=09 If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your= unsubscribe request to:

<= font size=3D"2">Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com


=09 Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will= make fun of you and you will feel like a dork.

_________________= _____________

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:4= 7 PM, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone help m= e...I can't figure out how to unsubscribe to LD?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
I would have gott= en the M13 but for floor space issues, the addition of fully accessible loo= p function buttons and a stereo fx loop would be great!

j

ps, i hadn't played in too long due to illness(better now)= =A0 but I picked up my axe yesterday and played this. Mostly M9 and DD 20 w= ith some 2880. I also made extensive use of my Digi Timebender which is a v= ery deep pedal that i have yet to fully learn...I posted this on ImprovFrid= ay yesterday, someplace some of you may wany to check out :) http://improvfriday.ning.com

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Solstice_Song.mp3



--20cf3071cc62558cac04a5ee6693-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 20:42:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D3A4183C18; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 634899084/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.199/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.199 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnUCAP66+01YbRnH/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgJmDOvTpALhicEli+LLQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,383,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="634899084" Message-ID: <4DFBBC3F.9040109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:42:39 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper), cf Vox References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Vox VDL-1 $250, £200 1 effects at once (not very tweakable) dedicated looper, 2 loops built in exp ped small size Rainer Straschill wrote: > With all that discussion, I'd like to see the differences between those > three things they have right now. If I get it right: > > M13: > four effects at once > additional looper > two exp pedal connectors > stereo FX send/return > complex scene logic > big (and expensive) > > M9: > three effects at once > additional looper > two exp pedal connectors > medium size (and price) $400, £350 > > M5: > one effect > no looper > one exp pedal connector > small size (and price) > > Correct? > > From what I see, the M9 seems to be the way to go from these options... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 20:46:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3443F183C1C; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xQe9gG9+bR7Lk8PIP+MY6MQGzMYNqvKr/+2izi3xmew=; b=iHTQ2FSNtgpvRknQVgcT8ghz0OG+wcxfSgxchYfYRqvGi/1zoX12NEASSztPyxf/VJ wJRlFCzBON8Lzhv+1ed0rW4d8GqnRLESKtls0hmsNGaNN/da6CMLaFir1xE9j+CW2zy2 aKHwOFpkGIxjp/9hKrKzK1dd+unLTxlwcDZTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eWIFqFCen8CX26FcLTfqGhpgFbEzcXLiJf+m+5V3lM12DG1BNscXyYJpCPbmmI0+n7 uTu9/3Pt/1SPJy5Itk38jCNZE8ec4InBAVEPU3+IEvrwIZfIiYqvq6s5eeY6Oq6N9kcR L7blDmsp6FBajyKFBoYvc0hYp0boXFgT55uRI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:46:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f38e43d6ff204a5ee7c8b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:46:52 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f38e43d6ff204a5ee7c8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sounds right to me Rainer, the M9 also has "scenes" btw. Also the M13 has dedicated looper buttons I believe whereas the m9 you have to press and hold a bit to switch from fx to looper controls. J On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > With all that discussion, I'd like to see the differences between those > three things they have right now. If I get it right: > > M13: > four effects at once > additional looper > two exp pedal connectors > stereo FX send/return > complex scene logic > big (and expensive) > > M9: > three effects at once > additional looper > two exp pedal connectors > medium size (and price) > > M5: > one effect > no looper > one exp pedal connector > small size (and price) > > Correct? > > From what I see, the M9 seems to be the way to go from these options... > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --20cf307f38e43d6ff204a5ee7c8b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds right to me Rainer, the M9 also has "scenes" btw. Also the= M13 has dedicated looper buttons I believe whereas the m9 you have to pres= s and hold a bit to switch from fx to looper controls.

J

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com><= /span> wrote:
With all that discussion, I'd like to see the differences between those= three things they have right now. If I get it right:

M13:
four effects at once
additional looper
two exp pedal connectors
stereo FX send/return
complex scene logic
big (and expensive)

M9:
three effects at once
additional looper
two exp pedal connectors
medium size (and price)

M5:
one effect
no looper
one exp pedal connector
small size (and price)

Correct?

>From what I see, the M9 seems to be the way to go from these options...
=
--
http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs


--20cf307f38e43d6ff204a5ee7c8b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 20:48:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FFE1183956; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7451ibJMghNREVGSPCc0kqnp98U1GLy/z1xeSCWKzn4=; b=QXmJyv8hqO/yV+RbXThx92l4c7KxUahXMOczj/b/S5WDP09n4dQ+jYn+3Z7Skjh/fL JKOpRWNVqKjPEF6ET6CWihJQdxJO0GLhCbUooTHaCMlLjC1Qvbgz2kT9dN1vw9yFxtLP G6Ipg653hZzMyNbBYaxLTjnLdiK1K6kFz1AZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AbvtHfxv8vtFe3ZXmLKjGRumTsksUi8hor2Z+NDHFm2C7EUE7kNiUQ5pXdult7fLlj z4q6O0nAPPZFwYPZwoHDkybUgrO7ql/aMqZF0ebV2ZNYNWifB3pGO03OYBjF1wwE7W/S hVMLbe/4BPG5SHk64rM6X38czk5+Kh9xWBe30= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DFBBC3F.9040109@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> <4DFBBC3F.9040109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:48:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper), cf Vox From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5489df1c73e0904a5ee8238 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:48:42 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5489df1c73e0904a5ee8238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any feedback control for that looper in the vox VDL-1 Andy? j On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Vox VDL-1 > $250, =A3200 > > 1 effects at once (not very tweakable) > dedicated looper, 2 loops > built in exp ped > small size > > Rainer Straschill wrote: > >> With all that discussion, I'd like to see the differences between those >> three things they have right now. If I get it right: >> >> M13: >> four effects at once >> additional looper >> two exp pedal connectors >> stereo FX send/return >> complex scene logic >> big (and expensive) >> >> M9: >> three effects at once >> additional looper >> two exp pedal connectors >> medium size (and price) >> > > $400, =A3350 > > >> M5: >> one effect >> no looper >> one exp pedal connector >> small size (and price) >> >> Correct? >> >> From what I see, the M9 seems to be the way to go from these options... >> >> > --bcaec5489df1c73e0904a5ee8238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any feedback control for that looper in the vox VDL-1 Andy?

j
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tisc= ali.co.uk> wrote:
Vox VDL-1
$250, =A3200

1 effects at once (not very tweakable)
dedicated looper, 2 loops
built in exp ped
small size

Rainer Straschill wrote:
With all that discussion, I'd like to see the differences between those= three things they have right now. If I get it right:

M13:
four effects at once
additional looper
two exp pedal connectors
stereo FX send/return
complex scene logic
big (and expensive)

M9:
three effects at once
additional looper
two exp pedal connectors
medium size (and price) =A0

$400, =A0=A3350


M5:
one effect
no looper
one exp pedal connector
small size (and price)

Correct?

=A0From what I see, the M9 seems to be the way to go from these options...<= br>


--bcaec5489df1c73e0904a5ee8238-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 21:18:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D8031837B3; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9420 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:18:56 UTC Message-ID: <02ca01cc2d1e$40411e60$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: Subject: More stuff to listen to Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:42:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=3NElcqgl2aoA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=dFfUOjzefSwVZWPEEe0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, I'm pleased to anounce that I have just released a new album of solo cello improvisations with lots of Mobius looping on Bandcamp http://stevemoyes.bandcamp.com/album/scrapes . Not much in the way of clever looping tricks, apart from some interesting rate shifting stuff on a couple of tracks, but may appeal to those of you that enjoy droning/scraping/squeeling noises. Any comments, positive or negative, would be most welcome. Cheers everyone! Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 21:28:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2185C1838AD; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=H1q1napmKNhF5o8KB6GkWu9IsDrE1BmQVJo0i4o3WzM=; b=LXIS7uCn2Ku2SCGo1dL33AEnI8t8QP46Pr3ccYqN8iH3+aU508j+zkasG8ypLaHYj2 IaWA4QXNwRFj96ZS4FyFp/bI+wJ9gSrkzCq6bAvAuG9qWeiMdF717dPyx1hjuJejcgmF /icLAhYPJPRO4cCgVPBor9PQZpyKU2avUe3Io= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kBtdn0N132WJG8ikowGjNTu/IWzei01zfiJderjdW3mmOjCx9aUhYGaS53uNuXNaL4 xofVGh1kWPrOYWj+UsiG43QOPFo52RtilVgA1k64tnWxAOqthnboQY5ywgzoZgThE09P SLLCHAV0lPncTkx0mXajZmVlkioy6w9vHyHuk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:14:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Curious about Ableton Live From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023543a2d94b85d3f04a5eedf70 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC) --0023543a2d94b85d3f04a5eedf70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm curious about Ableton Live, as recording/composing software. Since it costs a decent amount of money, I'd better ask a few questions first. I'd like to be able to: --Set an initial loop (or click track) --Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop --For looped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number of repeats of the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measures, I want to be able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3 measures, 4 measures, etc.) --For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of the clip and turn those portions into loops. --For individual tracks, include tools for normalization (of volume) and noise reduction. --Turn off the beat matching --Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to re-link them to the project. --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files across a workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I can decide whether or not they sync up with the existing tracks). Does it do all this stuff? -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --0023543a2d94b85d3f04a5eedf70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm curious about Ableton Live, as recording/composing software. Since = it costs a decent amount of money, I'd better ask a few questions first= .

I'd like to be able to:

--Set an initial loop (or clic= k track)
--Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop
--For loo= ped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number of repeats of = the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measures, I want to be = able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3 measures, 4 meas= ures, etc.)
--For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of the cli= p and turn those portions into loops.
--For individual tracks, include t= ools for normalization (of volume) and noise reduction.
--Turn off the b= eat matching
--Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to re-l= ink them to the project.
--In "arrangement view", Copy/paste p= ortions of audio files across a workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I c= an decide whether or not they sync up with the existing tracks).

Does it do all this stuff?

--
Matt Davignonmattdavignon@= gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/riboso= mematt
--0023543a2d94b85d3f04a5eedf70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 21:54:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35888183BFE; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QeTlsL9B8JYL/QbNbpLqFpUnkJECTTD+AmQsk/Rayug=; b=IHKvDRH3pU74rNGmzsCpCSAFqHxU+4j7yorfRfJCD6z0tTFCzD9MY3NOn/obqZj/S4 IEO/MKpEaVzYJ1xdb38kSdnqgTPXkTzrwPFEG+PkDzQonjvjrEP2b8xTvWTaBnfUXA8V cOdt44TvTFMhYFBIseqK7m2lRP/t3M3KMuz2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Uw67F687siHeDIh6/2c+W0WM1b6WKMpycTV5g4IdP+wmoVNU9w05OkkJkpYMUvYuwP M8UpVeBTTDHCT0eqCV5dxu3XR+R50dwmZyaxf+6542d9kw4iiiGEe7kZH6/vYeYQYl5M pTos52xkAB0HNZE/7oSaFX+NImN0q4W4nTX4Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:54:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:54:48 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > -Set an initial loop (or click track) Can be done. > --Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop You can set a global preference for Live if new recordings shall auto loop on the fly or not. And the same "launch preferences" can also be set locally for each individual loop after they have been recorded (or dragged in from the hard drive, if "going canned"). > --For looped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number of > repeats of the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measures, I > want to be able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3 > measures, 4 measures, etc.) Not possible. But you can set the length of a loop by how long you keep on recording it. There is a quantize function for stuff like going in or out of recording mode so you won't risk to end up with non synced loops. Quantize can of curse be set on the fly; from No Quantize to any number of bars or eight notes or whatever. You do that by hitting two keys on the laptop keyboard (one modifier key and then one of the f keys, or maybe it is the number? to set the Quantize value). So it is a no brainer to create three-against-four groove between two loops recorded on the fly. Very "EDP-ish if you ask me" ;-) > --For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of the clip > and turn those portions into loops. Can be done ok on the fly. You can even double click an audio clip (that's the Ableton term for an audio file displayed in a track channel strip slot) and have it open below inside a graphic sample editor where you see the wave form and the play-head moving through the recording. If you hit "loop" you may set the left and right loop point also on the fly by mouse clicking/dragging. This action can also be quantized or not... even done by external MIDI if you want to scratch cut and paste with some little midi mixer/button pad. > --For individual tracks, include tools for normalization (of volume) Normalization can be done to the sample in the sample editor. But I wouldn't recommend it (for fidelity reasons). If you slap a fat compressor over the track you are recoding on this will even out levels that might come out too low or too high in the heat of the live looping/sampling. > and > noise reduction. Well, a noise gate would do that. Live offers such a plugin, named "Gate" ;-)) BTW, Live comes with many interesting and useful plugins. > --Turn off the beat matching Can be done. Live has a function called "Warping" that analyzes audio based on transients and saves this data as an additional file on the disk. That's why canned files can be flied in and so smoothly pick up the tempo. Warping can be turned on or off for any audio file. You can also set up Live's preferences to auto warp - or not - any new recording you make. Warping makes hi fi audio sound pretty bad, but can be used for cool lo fi effects as well. > --Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to > re-link them to the project. Each recorded file takes on the name of the (mixer) track. You can type in track names before you start recording if you want to control what names recorded files shall be given. Then the files get numbered according to the order you record them in. Track name plus numer on that track. They all go into the project folder. Quite neat. > --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files across a > workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I can decide whether or not they > sync up with the existing tracks). Yes. Of course that can be done. You can even copy drag a clip from the mixer view into the arrange view. To to that you grab it with the mouse, press the TAB key to switch view, and let go wherever in the arrangement you want it to play back. Another neat workflow design details ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 21:55:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21B1B183C0A; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lt0tAFuUeIqUXAagNrdlPSBGOVgXsNzK8S/0bHyFYNQ=; b=X2B3cN2/V8T85lSWd3RKKvZvDBE8hBanWuL6SerZv8ytwOktMKOgvB98MF7L2VqTj0 8d1H5BUYu8N7qYD449+Ww/pelIdwUM+YJb4gDbekEkLskMHgNdfLSLK7e3xfFnyy1EQo M7cPvShvdPn3e3vjp03H4agHZd9Hh/qRrYdxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PnkCuI1khfRlRDzyauNAhoPhrqQRRoHg2BK6mRbWbYjLMM4mGRODJmAwmcQzNdF3us Ygcyp0LXMNygwdecmyoL0Gn2FVi/pmlSac4MWqoJ6PJUiOmxSuTEkJxFZZkHAkJ8sj+x pTiBPK5czkGcmu066tNI2Veut4GFpX/D17uSg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:55:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-GJImD.A.HLH.i18-NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:55:46 +0000 (UTC) I think you can download the PDF manual! It is very well written and explains everything in about three hours reading. Per On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Does it do all this stuff? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 22:17:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5816183BFA; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=G73Rtv25JElSzKx1TgQMNaHxWDsq5cEOi1T1qh1a8gE=; b=O+rMwwJ19cb3NOoo0JDGBvD4xZrA/VB5T5NIUFnt4AKNb1ICEuw+sfk6zg0x2qLAjM qMnsyymaGK4qq+tQIe+FJDlJ/R4WJgtq4Nd1Rsk0QTvv3pQd6MdDPURmJm7S6mCkgAUb w9fFw9SAR/ZjBuUZuHPlvy2OTCdec/WajoFaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=D+EuZRPVaSmuzbd0qidyuf8jxczIf2M9mX55VqE42xWi5tl+65HOQewDzuPicljWQE mbwInZbDxCrRGjy0cTUuJAE8Jp/SfEtqxwIRpFAJafdrZi1m0ppQ/BHBHiEPILHS08++ LSaHmVNAmWB1q5esnUnwH2EF2joBo5I8Lw1Ac= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:17:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52be6e301196a04a5efbf37 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:17:08 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52be6e301196a04a5efbf37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Per, I'm glad I asked! So, no noise reduction, huh? That's kind of a big deal to me. My rig has a lot of line noise and I like quiet sounds, so noise gate is out of the question. (Although I amgetting into the habit of cutting signal flow when recording - not running signals through pedals that I'm not using.) I shall check out the pdf. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon > wrote: > > -Set an initial loop (or click track) > > Can be done. > > > --Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop > > You can set a global preference for Live if new recordings shall auto > loop on the fly or not. And the same "launch preferences" can also be > set locally for each individual loop after they have been recorded (or > dragged in from the hard drive, if "going canned"). > > > --For looped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number of > > repeats of the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measures, > I > > want to be able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3 > > measures, 4 measures, etc.) > > Not possible. But you can set the length of a loop by how long you > keep on recording it. There is a quantize function for stuff like > going in or out of recording mode so you won't risk to end up with non > synced loops. Quantize can of curse be set on the fly; from No > Quantize to any number of bars or eight notes or whatever. You do that > by hitting two keys on the laptop keyboard (one modifier key and then > one of the f keys, or maybe it is the number? to set the Quantize > value). So it is a no brainer to create three-against-four groove > between two loops recorded on the fly. Very "EDP-ish if you ask me" > ;-) > > > > --For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of the > clip > > and turn those portions into loops. > > Can be done ok on the fly. You can even double click an audio clip > (that's the Ableton term for an audio file displayed in a track > channel strip slot) and have it open below inside a graphic sample > editor where you see the wave form and the play-head moving through > the recording. If you hit "loop" you may set the left and right loop > point also on the fly by mouse clicking/dragging. This action can also > be quantized or not... even done by external MIDI if you want to > scratch cut and paste with some little midi mixer/button pad. > > > > --For individual tracks, include tools for normalization (of volume) > > Normalization can be done to the sample in the sample editor. But I > wouldn't recommend it (for fidelity reasons). If you slap a fat > compressor over the track you are recoding on this will even out > levels that might come out too low or too high in the heat of the live > looping/sampling. > > > and > > noise reduction. > > Well, a noise gate would do that. Live offers such a plugin, named "Gate" > ;-)) > BTW, Live comes with many interesting and useful plugins. > > > --Turn off the beat matching > > Can be done. Live has a function called "Warping" that analyzes audio > based on transients and saves this data as an additional file on the > disk. That's why canned files can be flied in and so smoothly pick up > the tempo. Warping can be turned on or off for any audio file. You can > also set up Live's preferences to auto warp - or not - any new > recording you make. Warping makes hi fi audio sound pretty bad, but > can be used for cool lo fi effects as well. > > > --Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to > > re-link them to the project. > > Each recorded file takes on the name of the (mixer) track. You can > type in track names before you start recording if you want to control > what names recorded files shall be given. Then the files get numbered > according to the order you record them in. Track name plus numer on > that track. They all go into the project folder. Quite neat. > > > --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files across a > > workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I can decide whether or not they > > sync up with the existing tracks). > > Yes. Of course that can be done. You can even copy drag a clip from > the mixer view into the arrange view. To to that you grab it with the > mouse, press the TAB key to switch view, and let go wherever in the > arrangement you want it to play back. Another neat workflow design > details ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --bcaec52be6e301196a04a5efbf37 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Per, I'm glad I asked!

So, no noise reduction, huh? That&= #39;s kind of a big deal to me. My rig has a lot of line noise and I like q= uiet sounds, so noise gate is out of the question.

(Although I amget= ting into the habit of cutting signal flow when recording - not running sig= nals through pedals that I'm not using.)

I shall check out the pdf.


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com=
www.rib= osomemusic.com
Podcast! h= ttp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribos= omematt

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > -Set an initial loop (or click track)

Can be done.

> --Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop

You can set a global preference for Live if new recordings shall auto=
loop on the fly or not. And the same "launch preferences" can als= o be
set locally for each individual loop after they have been recorded (or
dragged in from the hard drive, if "going canned").

> --For looped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number = of
> repeats of the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measure= s, I
> want to be able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3<= br> > measures, 4 measures, etc.)

Not possible. But you can set the length of a loop by how long you keep on recording it. There is a quantize function for stuff like
going in or out of recording mode so you won't risk to end up with non<= br> synced loops. Quantize can of curse be set on the fly; from No
Quantize to any number of bars or eight notes or whatever. You do that
by hitting two keys on the laptop keyboard (one modifier key and then
one of the f keys, or maybe it is the number? to set the Quantize
value). So it is a no brainer to create three-against-four groove
between two loops recorded on the fly. Very "EDP-ish if you ask me&quo= t;
;-)


> --For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of th= e clip
> and turn those portions into loops.

Can be done ok on the fly. You can even double click an audio clip (that's the Ableton term for an audio file displayed in a track
channel strip slot) and have it open below inside a graphic sample
editor where you see the wave form and the play-head moving through
the recording. If you hit "loop" you may set the left and right l= oop
point also on the fly by mouse clicking/dragging. This action can also
be quantized or not... even done by external MIDI if you want to
scratch cut and paste with some little midi mixer/button pad.


> --For individual tracks, include tools for normalization (of volume)
Normalization can be done to the sample in the sample editor. But I wouldn't recommend it (for fidelity reasons). If you slap a fat
compressor over the track you are recoding on this will even out
levels that might come out too low or too high in the heat of the live
looping/sampling.

> and
> noise reduction.

Well, a noise gate would do that. Live offers such a plugin, named "Ga= te" ;-))
BTW, Live comes with many interesting and useful plugins.

> --Turn off the beat matching

Can be done. Live has a function called "Warping" that anal= yzes audio
based on transients and saves this data as an additional file on the
disk. That's why canned files can be flied in and so smoothly pick up the tempo. Warping can be turned on or off for any audio file. You can
also set up Live's preferences to auto warp - or not - any new
recording you make. Warping makes hi fi audio sound pretty bad, but
can be used for cool lo fi effects as well.

> --Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to=
> re-link them to the project.

Each recorded file takes on the name of the (mixer) track. You can type in track names before you start recording if you want to control
what names recorded files shall be given. Then the files get numbered
according to the order you record them in. Track name plus numer on
that track. They all go into the project folder. Quite neat.

> --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files = across a
> workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I can decide whether or not th= ey
> sync up with the existing tracks).

Yes. Of course that can be done. You can even copy drag a clip from the mixer view into the arrange view. To to that you grab it with the
mouse, press the TAB key to switch view, and let go wherever in the
arrangement you want it to play back. Another neat workflow design
details ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--bcaec52be6e301196a04a5efbf37-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 22:21:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4337E183C02; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6iQf6YKNmNLEpjNwSC3pr8UEFyZb8ZpKrNNXPmHbsjU=; b=XFQEX9ONro7zXVRGmLZPJl7XcAws4aU18F89NifxP+wKvqQ/ua85tf2rE7Gu9sGjTP WU6Cvd9zNqQZZ1zYVaNghHsfQnydfR+0iGU3jeY0EDU+NAbDOopGkTG50P5pkAvKmgZd GJdsPLfp8hiZTwwkHiADt8hFNZAPzd8N/tl0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QR5oQSQy/6VCWZH1QHm+b+PTN4klzvGf8RuE83Jwt2H0apPj9gQVztQ3fQuMX4BvAG k9QFgjO8U/ULNQUH8VShnin0nzgYa6bV2e41cHuB/MaYe+CacKU1wzhiHLx4y8bPHUGO X1D1EJbjFHX5p79fAGrxSYo1mRys9cbczktkI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:21:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:21:33 +0000 (UTC) I've been wrestling with Ableton for years. I think Per's answer is very accurate and well informed. One caveat I would make is to distinguish what "can be done" and what works best within the software's "workflow paradigm." I don't want that to sound pompous. As software has become more and more complex, it's design becomes more centered on a "workflow paradigm" where the software designers make certain assumptions about how the software will be used. In Ableton, that is clearly around working with prerecorded loops. Ableton makes it really easy to mix and match loops of different lengths on the fly in a live situation. It also makes it really easy to beat sync loops that were originally different tempos. The design of the program makes that easy and intuitive. This maybe simplistic, but I think Ableton's strength is as a live remixing tool. If you are recording most of your material live instead of working with prerecorded loops, I think you will find yourself working harder and spending more time reading the manual, at least that's my experience for what it's worth. I'm somewhere in the middle where I work with prerecorded beats and play live looped guitar and keyboards on top of that. The built in looper is straightforward and reasonably easy to use. I took a one day class on Ableton through the (San Francisco) Bay Area Video Coalition with Chris Willits and that definitely helped me to get my head around Ableton. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I think you can download the PDF manual! It is very well written and > explains everything in about three hours reading. > > Per > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> Does it do all this stuff? > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 22:29:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FA12183BFF; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-17_08:2011-06-17,2011-06-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106170204 Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper) From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:29:20 -0700 Message-id: <5FB8E979-6BF5-48CC-AB90-44E2AC515E0E@mac.com> References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) M13- more footpedal realestate -- dedicated buttons. This is both plus and minus depending on your proclivity. d On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > With all that discussion, I'd like to see the differences between those three things they have right now. If I get it right: > > M13: > four effects at once > additional looper > two exp pedal connectors > stereo FX send/return > complex scene logic > big (and expensive) > > M9: > three effects at once > additional looper > two exp pedal connectors > medium size (and price) > > M5: > one effect > no looper > one exp pedal connector > small size (and price) > > Correct? > > From what I see, the M9 seems to be the way to go from these options... > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 22:33:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F1CE183539; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=p9MKMhWCc5XHqnXvgSWDSsVfD+I421aoNK5OL0UdN0s=; b=MdwFcznyHpR1dgjsX01v7+uzW6jS5eybS2ufqb/Hvn+DVLBiPj1VxjXdY6BTLeuMj+ js5fUOZER9zOxKTGS+wo43ZdLQaasfNJDwHRp1flRJPkSQcNMrvxnXoXJ1KLIh0/2xvY 6bvnWUEPSTh4gJnzcXmjPJ1F+m2MF+eaP3Hro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QUnlyP1wGmIWeZICxCN6Ud2Xu5Fz8+CcyG2Cxk8ADtk6Gc5oMCIluYEEWJOU8Ioq4W SVGu0adhrlgLKihGEMeIacT2rr61CuyXvw8rtdc14HhjeCLCOpC//asnTfbjdZagM9FO nPuUb99Ug5USDrM3+mGpxlIzY5uiQY9cwHoGw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:33:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:33:48 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Art Simon wrote: > The built in looper is straightforward and reasonably > easy to use. I agree. But since you brought it up it must be said that Live's Looper limits loop length division and multiplying to 2. For me that is a "show stopper" since I love setting poly rhythms between parallel loops of different lengths. This limitation does not exist if you record loops as audio clips, but then you have no overdub or feedback option. But you could of course host a more advanced looper in Live, like Augustus Loop or Mobius. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: So, no noise reduction, huh? Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise reduction". Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that works well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the "pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live though - but lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 22:59:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28316183C26; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-17_10:2011-06-17,2011-06-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106170207 Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:59:01 -0700 Message-id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:59:26 +0000 (UTC) > Live's > Looper limits loop length division and multiplying to 2. For me that > is a "show stopper" Me 2. Bummed me mightily at the time the feature was released. Have been banging on Ableton about this for quite a while. This limitation prevents all kind of freedoms when improvising song forms. daniel On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> The built in looper is straightforward and reasonably >> easy to use. > > I agree. But since you brought it up it must be said that Live's > Looper limits loop length division and multiplying to 2. For me that > is a "show stopper" since I love setting poly rhythms between parallel > loops of different lengths. This limitation does not exist if you > record loops as audio clips, but then you have no overdub or feedback > option. But you could of course host a more advanced looper in Live, > like Augustus Loop or Mobius. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > > So, no noise reduction, huh? > > Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise reduction". > Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that works > well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work > well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the > "pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live though - but > lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-) > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 23:14:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36D0C183C27; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 744318.72562.bm@omp1044.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308352484; bh=hi4SPHmt6nRiQUoB+gkh1KdfVFCGDM6RbYaqm9EYK9U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sWoIAuy0BsjBfEzUEtGlPB39iVWlqIDLbLOF1CyfOkd4d5bJjGqRpPzOkGF0wA4MX8svDDvVLRGK0jVEgZ4vqYkQUr2dUojbmNwE4zMJMFVsQ3/gIWotpQnwP8e+UIU2g3vAgWk+qwhSPeX9n8juvzBKslXlx/DhCNSU4UF6TyM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tpThAlgXJnKDHA2qg3g5kN7i9ZXKw8FMkaT+bZxsmdxEQpszSWgmJr2cSzeX8aLGpBi+2dWiFFZPoYAfRE2pmCifRys6U4ezo8AelI9rqMBzjj8WBgM09W+cOJ3z9zWWINSmq9+QK04BnF3aJnJ/pRnP/cDF3hp2V+0Zwip5gf0=; Message-ID: <167405.72377.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: yjhrAHMVM1mQuzO8phgetfW5PpZYTF3StPLlLLwmWNhoDI8 slofIcVZI466e1efQsDSerCAcTH9AZaU2J_WdHDpMDKNfhF4r3scaTEQVZfu r8Yx1Uc0XgFzVMeH_FIi_niuxCkkinzDG1oRvyakoNG5prGPwp1xGogp68dN EjAWb8cCahn6Glf2D3oXJ29TT2kY4ALBDxZ.KmvI4bDz7ctEt6JAYmqlnJDo c3njYRTSfMAAZZmdQ_Nx_61V6hGk2FvGoNRBeO4aQThOxW6JMUxYKhMdaAks VtddgNrD42EzSYac3BNi2DYsiUYgshz_s9bA0QXKyuCD8m92Dmx6RNu3M1ge h9wRDcHXZHZMe18gtRq9MHcUUkdV0eDMxJkrYzIZPtcGc2H10T9dP1yFhoWH otRPJ2CxHRnSmKRfc85WNH_T9UuSsZDMvLAZOAxv02i6ODja_wlVBFo73ysX 6KVk0ZK.1UDssqcPRCPfDaI6FHSUBEUNJ5FFYxqV.KKRh3gqfVKY5Y6Yq7U_ 8TjwIOzAmJx84eXDUKHbgzJpWNkAUdxdGvqYB7kLor9ZlEHddST4_WhILJPW WlHitkXIkOphmeNKzQ39g2Z5s5xwE0DpcgCCHw2jSag-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <68C9613E-04D6-4197-B830-134F717543D2@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Todd, I did learn a lot compositionally, mainly relating to music more melo= dically (linearly/horizontally) That older 3 part style basically doesn't c= oncern itself with the chord progression (harmonically/vertically) it just = 'goes for it' with 3 simultaneous melodies, it seems to be about whatever s= ounds good & works in the moment. It was good for me to just digest the me= lodic aspect and not think at all about the harmonic structure (or 'chord c= hanges) which is something I studied in school and use a lot when I'm playi= ng jazz (though actually these days I'm really trying to bring the 'non-thi= nking-linear-in the moment' approach into my jazz playing, it really makes = it better. They say 'learn the rules before you break them' what they din'= t tell me is that breaking the rules isn't as easy as it sounds after learn= ing them, for me it was like un-training a stubborn trained monkey ;) I lov= e knowing what's going on and it's a valuable skill, but at a certain point I needed to 'jump off the cliff' or 'walk through the door' = as my old bass teacher Ray Drummond used to say.=0A=0A uh oh-rambling alert= ! anyhow, thanks for listening and SO glad you enjoyed them, my eventual go= al is to perform these with other bassists live (I've done them solo with l= ive looping) here's 2 of them live at Y2KX: =0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/us= er/UccelloProject#p/a/B83093349FFA23BA/1/RAUhx4PMreA =0A=0Aso...may be we'l= l get to jam on them together someday!=0A=0A=0A--- On Thu, 6/16/11, Todd Ma= tthews wrote:=0A=0A> From: Todd Matthews =0A> Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-= 1=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Thursday, June 16, = 2011, 9:11 AM=0A=0A> This is wonderful! What a project!=0A> Sounds great an= d I bet you walked away from it with a wealth=0A> of knowledge from a compo= sitional standpoint.=0A> =0A> > Hi Loopers! =0A> > =0A> > Just wanted to sh= are a project I'm working on: Michael=0A> Maier's 'Atalanta Fugiens' (1617)= -probably the first multi=0A> media document in history including 50 fugue= s, 50 emblems,=0A> and 50 epigrams, meant to be enjoyed simultaneously. Tho= ugh=0A> composed in 1617, they have a droney, medieval flavor, and I=0A> we= nt for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach'=0A> interpretation.=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=0A> > =0A> > For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I=0A> = used my trusty Looperlative 1.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A> > =0A> > I basically d= id a live looping approach in my home=0A> studio, layering the fugues up on= e part at a time, then I=0A> recorded it from the LP-1 to a laptop as a ste= reo track into=0A> Digital Performer. No punching in or editing.=C2=A0 It w= as=0A> awesome to be able to record with such a high sound quality=0A> all = at the touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is=0A> a 3 voiced =E2= =80=98BASS CHOIR=E2=80=99 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS,=0A> ELECTRIC FRE= TTED BASS, and ELECTRIC FRETTLESS=0A> BASS.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A> > =0A> > = 'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F.=0A> Uccello is set to re= lease this in December. Our intention is=0A> to create a fine book that inc= ludes a CD along with it. Joe=0A> will be toiling at length as he=E2=80=99s= planning to create 50=0A> emblems of his own inspired by and based upon th= e original=0A> 50.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =0A> > =0A> > After the tracking was done, = the audio was mastered by=0A> Robert Rich. Though the fugues are only 1/3 o= f the total=0A> experience intended by Maier, I hope that sharing the music= =0A> might be of interest to any interested in music with=0A> alchemical as= pects, bowed bass, looping, or fine=0A> books.=C2=A0 Here is a link to all = 50 fugues streaming on=0A> 'soundcloud', =0A> > =0A> > http://soundcloud.co= m/clarified-birds/sets=0A> > =0A> > Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello=0A> = > =0A> =0A> --------------------=0A> Todd Matthews=0A> toddbass.com=0A> twi= tter: gtodd876=0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 17 23:59:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CBEE183BDA; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X8xB2Lf27Vx+b0425Nk2sfs3+SHGls6CI+nWHbSOEcs=; b=ZFzFcO7ej/mR4Ldz2mmDUV4mdrhPYaWuUD2rBFG/sCa5zdTibqR2Plb4foca6ZXblK bjEjPfVYYwFtHdNUdDjldeTke67ZCGNNdW/VXBvT+fwCaL3uIm0RxoX3VUWGLYKvhYm2 zyyFG+Af3ChDUJiJeQVG0LL6TTjelf8q7CkbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xy4JCHjpknJYjo7B6frQvbPUWt8YMQUR+BILnzO4pVgPYb2ts0NOeu0Xt0IODt+17h dNWVYXinbCLiAJNY9Jn8D5Nt1DOmCb2KQb3KMfiQ5cMHGpLTorxZJx4WwPQB4yOg1Axq ++DqUiZBQiYJ8WzFe9M6+uqeEqxhZYAD+UzeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:52:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023543a2d9411dceb04a5f11537 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:59:28 +0000 (UTC) --0023543a2d9411dceb04a5f11537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hmmm, that may be a deal breaker for me. I'm not asking for real-time noise reduction, just the ability to de-hiss tracks once they're recorded. I was like: > > So, no noise reduction, huh? > > Then Per was all: > Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise reduction". > Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that works > well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work > well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the > "pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live though - but > lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-) > > Per > > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --0023543a2d9411dceb04a5f11537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm, that may be a deal breaker for me. I'm not asking for real-time n= oise reduction, just the ability to de-hiss tracks once they're recorde= d.

I was like:

So, no noise reduction, huh?


Then Per was all:=A0
Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise red= uction".
Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that works well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work
well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the
"pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live though = - but
lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-)

Per




--
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Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/riboso= mematt
--0023543a2d9411dceb04a5f11537-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 00:23:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC991183C01; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=BwWvuO2iUln4ailjuGSjVv0ya0aMr70epfK/nq0QAus=; b=jR1prz8upTQ2MNlKw0sVY7zTpzzjwgqZBbHB6lsqKvMQt3XuRXA9TSPHI5kuTuMPts GBopvzwrF5J/dDFckyjNvhlQn9mA/fRCZEca5zjOr2VswHtrZ5yEGjKGuR+mILmFHUDq ZETvdOXurw124MqSkhqOjE+IhJM51e6qLNKe4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=xu4Wq2J4eaxzcZj6j4S2owbdBZ5i7QJGwBuNRyFjj/Aqnqort6hk05LKWmlSV43646 5G5z8d5tI1bBNMk8BbV+rsioQWymjJjxeT0RN+0DiH4zPaBrClMlWKkEuMDQmkzeB0pQ XRheMJfH0Fq4jqBhe7uXPQaefn3qce1/rSv3w= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--663102215 Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:22:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <0C403D68-B78D-4C3C-9B31-BA639B2646EC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:23:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--663102215 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You could easily find and attenuate the hiss frequencies with the EQ8 = plug-in that comes with Live. I use EQ8 to my taste on the incoming = audio and it takes care of any hiss in my signal just fine and it's real = time. =20 On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hmmm, that may be a deal breaker for me. I'm not asking for real-time = noise reduction, just the ability to de-hiss tracks once they're = recorded.=20 >=20 > I was like:=20 >=20 > So, no noise reduction, huh? >=20 >=20 > Then Per was all: =20 > Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise reduction". > Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that works > well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work > well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the > "pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live though - but > lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-) >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-2--663102215 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii You = could easily find and attenuate the hiss frequencies with the EQ8 = plug-in that comes with Live. I use EQ8 to my taste on the incoming = audio and it takes care of any hiss in my signal just fine and it's real = time.  
On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Matt = Davignon wrote:

Hmmm, that may be a deal breaker for me. I'm not asking = for real-time noise reduction, just the ability to de-hiss tracks once = they're recorded.

I was like:

So, no noise reduction, huh?


Then Per was all:  =
Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise = reduction".
Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that works
well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work
well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the
"pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live though - = but
lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-)

Per




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Matt = Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

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= --Apple-Mail-2--663102215-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 03:42:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0DDF183C0C; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 03:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=t/+0KcZdt+kxBWUk5janZJHX8mc/8fylAuUtvA7X6fs=; b=obfWtmkzJAVJlEdlK22rjAuEoZFJZDhMjkbjsfVcT/6Gjst3tQdcgoxnai8YA3Rb/1 uUfX1kWBOTVJFAQ4aID4axhBYRVxlNm1dnvV+0egr1RUPtpS3t5Gba6ldN3eAx9azIh5 Lm7kIK3mFGSbGqiUWYCM4E/lHLdZvQ559PF70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CcqczFPWXvNtyu4TaMvtfmysgxnBeTmv9FffxdpBJYs1t/lszOV0fDVNs/vW0uECb8 966IeZWF7QwcBEahG8OGqUYQKlqs4VyLZJK7gCnv9MMnfjqVvJ/l1MA1hrdr/uXulY+g yczC+mZhs+ONHk+9Pp/oKj34w6BL4MyXQVuZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:42:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: List member Todd Reynolds, perf. in NY on Sunday, and on NPR's top 25 From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3aca15258304a5f44a84 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 03:42:21 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f3aca15258304a5f44a84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd my pleasure and will consider Amazon, I need to hear the whole work bu= t Transamerica is intense allure. Where I've been where I'm going or think I am these days musically is such a feeling of being heavily influenced by rhythmic energy, contrast, melody yet layering and density so I'm drawn to the vibe in your track. Best on Sunday or when it is that you are opening for Laurie, amazing. Jim On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:31 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Thanks so much Jim, Jean-Paul, Richard and Kevin. Honored to have some > lovely words from my colleagues on the list. > > > and Jim, no problem with the mini-review! You gave me more perspective > than any of the press it's gotten, lol. Which of course leads me to invi= te > you to write an Amazon review, cuz, you know, there AIN'T any yet! Lov= ed > your perspective in your facebook post! > > All the best to all of you. > > Todd > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Jim Goodin wr= ote: > >> Todd checking out now. This is excellent! Really like the unrest and >> urban yet huge beat feel of this. Your sparse viol in there amongst all= the >> processing is really cool in the opening moments. The more acoustic mom= ents >> remind me a lot of Darol [Anger] then you've got this happening beat thi= ng >> going on. Sorry to turn in to a mini-review but dig it! >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover < >> j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The track sounds great Todd! I'll re-listen often! >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jim Goodin >>> wrote: >>> > Todd congratulations. I'm mobil but will check the track later. You >>> > are inspiring! >>> > Jim >>> > >>> > On 6/15/11, richard sales wrote: >>> >> Very nice, Todd! >>> >> >>> >> Richard Sales >>> >> Sent from my IPad >>> >> www.glasswing.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I don'= t >>> have >>> >>> streaming yet), of Transamerica. >>> >>> >>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica >>> >>> >>> >>> I do hope you enjoy. >>> >>> >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks. >>> >>> >>> >>> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I hope >>> you >>> >>> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy. >>> >>> >>> >>> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transamerica, the >>> first >>> >>> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden fo= r >>> the >>> >>> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... >>> >>> >>> >>> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention, as >>> part of >>> >>> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-clas= sicals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for indulging. I don't have it set up for free streaming ye= t, >>> but >>> >>> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it. >>> >>> >>> >>> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. Lovin' all this U2 >>> lovin' >>> >>> n hatin'. good convos of late. >>> >>> >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> >>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >>> >>> >>> >>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available >>> wherever >>> >>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> >>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here. >>> >>> >>> >>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available >>> wherever >>> >>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >>> >>> >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D >>> >>> http://toddreynolds.com >>> >>> http://twitter.com/digifiddler >>> >>> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic >>> >>> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >>> >>> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds >>> >>> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sent from my mobile device >>> > >>> > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim >>> Goodin & >>> > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >>> > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >>> > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >>> > >>> > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jean-Paul De Roover >>> www.jeanpaulderoover.com >>> (807) 251-3376 >>> >>> Check out the brand new video for "You"! >>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim >> Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> > > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > > =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever > music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page > . > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf307f3aca15258304a5f44a84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd my pleasure and will consider Amazon, I need to hear the whole work bu= t Transamerica is intense allure. =A0Where I've been where I'm goin= g or think I am these days musically is such a feeling of being heavily inf= luenced by rhythmic energy, contrast, melody yet layering and density so I&= #39;m drawn to the vibe in your track. =A0Best on Sunday or when it is that= you are opening for Laurie, amazing.
Jim

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:31 AM, tod= d reynolds <todd= reyn@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks so much Jim, Jean-Paul, Richard and Kevin. =A0Honored to have some l= ovely words from my colleagues on the list. =A0


and Jim, =A0no problem with the mini-review! =A0You gave me more per= spective than any of the press it's gotten, lol. =A0Which of course lea= ds me to invite you to write an Amazon review, cuz, you know, =A0there AIN&= #39;T any yet! =A0 Loved your perspective in your facebook post!=A0

All the best to all of you.=A0

Todd

=A0

On Thu, Jun 16, = 2011 at 11:19 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Todd checking out now. =A0This is excellent!= =A0Really like the unrest and urban yet huge beat feel of this. =A0Your sp= arse viol in there amongst all the processing is really cool in the opening= moments. =A0The more acoustic moments remind me a lot of Darol [Anger] the= n you've got this happening beat thing going on. =A0Sorry to turn in to= a mini-review but dig it!

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jean-Paul = De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
The track sounds great Todd! I'll re-listen often!

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > Todd congratulations. I'm mobil but will check the track later. Yo= u
> are inspiring!
> Jim
>
> On 6/15/11, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
>> Very nice, Todd!
>>
>> Richard Sales
>> Sent from my IPad
>> www.glasswi= ng.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot to include a track for you, from the record, (which I= don't have
>>> streaming yet), of Transamerica.
>>>
>>> http://soundcloud.com/innovadotmu/transamerica
>>>
>>> I do hope you enjoy.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wro= te:
>>> Hi folks.
>>>
>>> I rarely toot my own stuff on here (probably a mistake), so I = hope you
>>> won't mind me sharing this bit of joy.
>>>
>>> First of all, for New Yorkers, I'll be premiering Transame= rica, the first
>>> cut off my record, at the World Financial Center's Winter = Garden for the
>>> Bang on a Can Marathon this Sunday in the 12 noon segment... >>>
>>> and second, the record, Outerborough, just got a nice mention,= as part of
>>> nprclassical's top 25 of the year so far...
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/06/15/137197287/npr-classi= cals-best-albums-of-the-year-so-far
>>>
>>> Thanks for indulging. =A0I don't have it set up for free s= treaming yet, but
>>> as soon as I do, if there is interest here, I'll post it.<= br> >>>
>>> meanwhile, all the very very best to everyone. =A0Lovin' a= ll this U2 lovin'
>>> n hatin'. =A0good convos of late.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here.
>>>
>>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now ava= ilable wherever
>>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> =95 The most recent newsletter is here.
>>>
>>> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now ava= ilable wherever
>>> music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.
>>>
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D
>>> http://t= oddreynolds.com
>>> h= ttp://twitter.com/digifiddler
>>> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic
>>> htt= p://blog.toddreynolds.com
>>> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds
>>> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin &
> Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
>
> wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
>
>



--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpauld= eroover.com
(807) 251-3376

Check out the brand new video for "You"!
= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc




--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim G= oodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will ben= efit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=95 The most recent newsletter is here.
=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.






--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf307f3aca15258304a5f44a84-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 10:09:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D65E183C0C; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3237 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:09:44 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: More stuff to listen to From: jayrope LD In-Reply-To: <20110617221710.AFF6C18378C@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:15:44 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <43C9CCF7-7D4B-4780-B564-57A262820ED7@kliklak.net> References: <20110617221710.AFF6C18378C@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Mr. Moyes,=20 i enjoy your complex-coloured cello space very much. On an intermediate technical note it is great to hear cycles mostly not = appearing as loops=20 (although i find the miking could be improved to get your instrument = more body, maybe. Not needed to improve the sheer music, jthough.). However, i enjoy your complex-coloured cello space very much. Food for = thought. Thank you for complex brightening up a Berlin spring morning and: More = of this, please. - - -=20 jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Jun 18, 2011, at 12:17 AM, = Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > More stuff to listen to From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 10:28:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65C38183A43; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 625177324/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.195/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.195 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApQCABJ9/E1YbRrD/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgW12WGKgSWMIsw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,385,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="625177324" Message-ID: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:28:56 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:28:43 +0000 (UTC) For noise reduction Adobe Audition is the precision tool. (aka Cool Edit, which may still be around in some form, but pc only). --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files across a workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I can decide whether or not they sync up with the existing tracks). Audition's perfect for that too. ...but it's not intended for live use, I don't even know if it would be practical to host a looping plugin with it in a live situation. However, I think the rest of your requirements would be met by using Mobius as a standalone. (not 100% sure) andy Matt Davignon wrote: > Hmmm, that may be a deal breaker for me. I'm not asking for real-time > noise reduction, just the ability to de-hiss tracks once they're recorded. > > I was like: > > So, no noise reduction, huh? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 10:31:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B79D7183C0C; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 631750050/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.195/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.195 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApQCAM99/E1YbRrD/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgWx2GPe4YqBJYwizA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,385,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="631750050" Message-ID: <4DFC7E84.1010106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:31:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper), cf Vox References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> <4DFBBC3F.9040109@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Duke wrote: > Any feedback control for that looper in the vox VDL-1 Andy? no. the claim of "infinite overdubs" is pure fiction... strange isn't it andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 10:47:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9935B183C0E; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ONcFMObjIbFCumX2a6uy8XpynHWvabKj4ar36qdN2Y=; b=JeibPWp5/fDtQJiqRWDBsOv+iyJvYeWWeP3mTaJy1FXSZnHfqqh4Za2atnC6KF+/9k O9zA/45C69QLKXdgeBJLh9OhMjRdm4pj3gA6GwvYlz2S4dqloU+CGP3aCyDvupLJnitl Gqr1BVIeqzeDFmphNU5lMLqIptxOA24pzzyyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wu3DGYWNisEpu0qMoj4dgiLFyG68r62+efYkiT2c83GQGGIyGUnw/TZdcpOhCJ31rL 9Sf117V0QSPAXHw6GDizehT/xxnZhsAJVcnJ7vOCBfF7wfPi6ghEbXHcaUrHt/4bIzKD Dxb7Nx4MaCfwvzrXSEBXx17Xz2xHNcAYj1qvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:47:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Yes, Cool Edit was kind of "the holy graal" for audio restoration under Window OS. Nice that it is still alive in Audition! Today I have the GRM-Tools plugins on a Mac that offer a similar "noisy audio cleaning" functionality. I've also been using the Waves Restoration suite a couple of times. All these are file cleaning stuff that you apply to recorded file as "sample editing" or "post processing". Logic has a noise cleaning plugin but it is quite bad, works better as "weird noise effect" ;-) Makes audio sway and bubble like under-water sound. Myself I rarely use those tools today, since they all color the sound in some way. What I do instead to clean up recorded audio is to automate EQ in the mixing process. I might dial in only a narrow EQ band to become active for adjusting only these frequencies forexactly about the time the noise disturbance exists in the recorded material. This is a lot of work but quite fun - I also like to sweep narrow frequency bands up and down just "as effect", a subtle way to make a recording come alive. There are plugins that do this too (GRM) and it is one of the most used techniques in Metasynth. Just another related thought I found interesting to throw in here... :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:28 PM, andy butler wrot= e: > For noise reduction Adobe Audition is the precision tool. > (aka Cool Edit, which may still be around in some form, but pc only). > > > > > --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files across > a workspace in an arbitrary manner > (where I can decide whether or not they sync up with the existing tracks)= . > > Audition's perfect for that too. > > ...but it's not intended for live use, I don't even know if it would > be practical to host a looping plugin with it in a live situation. > > However, I think the rest of your requirements would be met by > using Mobius as a standalone. (not 100% sure) > > > andy > > Matt Davignon wrote: >> >> Hmmm, that may be a deal breaker for me. I'm not asking for real-time >> noise reduction, just the ability to de-hiss tracks once they're recorde= d. >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0I was like: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0So, no noise reduction, huh? >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 11:12:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6402183C0C; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 631760100/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.195/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.195 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUCAC+H/E1YbRrD/2dsb2JhbAAMRoRJk03HMpAugSuDdYEKBJYwizA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,385,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="631760100" Message-ID: <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:12:55 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Yes, Cool Edit was kind of "the holy graal" for audio restoration > under Window OS. Nice that it is still alive in Audition! Audition now available for mac. best toolbox a boy ever had :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 11:21:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33A63183C0C; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0814132356104D4F89A5B2D75DCABCF7@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:21:56 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:21:55 +0000 (UTC) I wouldn't be surprised at that, as Cool Edit's NR and normalization functions made it stand out from the crowd. -----Original Message----- From: andy butler Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:28 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live For noise reduction Adobe Audition is the precision tool. (aka Cool Edit, which may still be around in some form, but pc only). --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files across a workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I can decide whether or not they sync up with the existing tracks). Audition's perfect for that too. ...but it's not intended for live use, I don't even know if it would be practical to host a looping plugin with it in a live situation. However, I think the rest of your requirements would be met by using Mobius as a standalone. (not 100% sure) andy Matt Davignon wrote: > Hmmm, that may be a deal breaker for me. I'm not asking for real-time > noise reduction, just the ability to de-hiss tracks once they're recorded. > > I was like: > > So, no noise reduction, huh? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 11:55:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDDDE183C0C; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=qk7ZcuImqBdWvsWjLji7YyBlIjcITvri1KzvTLFpQt4=; b=XPbxMTxP1BB62ZMsLBcVGYUEogHig5xcbmLfYKHy9vrgzUuzwg/+FuNMZzTZ8lY7yK ybUuT4oG5JmD8J+xz12StmTfdUJKT7MAxw+x9lMzPS8Dj3pQRl8jt+WMBz9CXr/Fl5kj zmidgzKsRiI4Yr6U6c4xAcq8L9XJY0dckmu14= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=TN53khcslHLhnm7aTU3WVVxeaWH352zJyEaYioG/jWq68iyvRUZ2zR7sMqg/8kL0Fq rJKr8a5xR9cAUR0iZ2EMo4FIHQok0FRl3YO1V+Ba95PbjoJC/cOCRbq3c+5+Ml99+f4Q 8xL6Ybwo9IACk9tIekj9kEEyQ7E0S1ilGScyE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Curious about Abobe Audition From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:55:49 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Awesome, I didn't realize it was for mac too. I'm going to download the = trial now. On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:12 AM, andy butler wrote: > Per Boysen wrote: >> Yes, Cool Edit was kind of "the holy graal" for audio restoration >> under Window OS. Nice that it is still alive in Audition!=20 >=20 > Audition now available for mac. >=20 > best toolbox a boy ever had :-) >=20 > andy >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 15:26:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C95FA183C01; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 631657773/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.195/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.195 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgCAK7C/E1YbRrD/2dsb2JhbAAMRpgW1lOGKgSWMIsw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,386,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="631657773" Message-ID: <4DFCC3B6.50308@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:26:46 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Curious about Adobe Audition References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:26:32 +0000 (UTC) :-) me neither, I just happened to check before posting that it was pc only. One thing it's very good at is editing loop performances. With the sample accurate alignment it's pretty much possible to unmix the layers...given time and patience. I don't have v3, only v2 so you'll have to tell us if v3 would be usable for live work. andy Todd Matthews wrote: > Awesome, I didn't realize it was for mac too. I'm going to download the trial now. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 15:51:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5444183C01; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <012601cc2dcf$9d658ca0$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <20110617221710.AFF6C18378C@arsenic.violacea.com> <43C9CCF7-7D4B-4780-B564-57A262820ED7@kliklak.net> Subject: Re: More stuff to listen to Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:51:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=NQAjI3dE67oA:10 a=3NElcqgl2aoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=qPzfMoOpAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=9f-G97qprAAeYSvPZ6oA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=yKXuFZSAuOYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Thanks so much, Mr Jayrope, for listening and for your comments. I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Regarding the miking, I didn't actually use a mic. It was all done using a pickup attached to the bridge. I have tried recording with mics, but never had much success with it, except in a particularly nice acoustic space, which I rarely have access to these days. In fact, it's not really a "proper" cello anyway, it's Knilling Portacello from the 1950's, which has a small rectangular body. The nature of the instrument, combined with my very unconventional (some would say non-existent) playing technique, at least give a fairly recognisable sound, so I have decided to try and make a virtue of it. I doubt it will ever sound very pretty. Anyway, I have ben encouraged by the reactions to Scrapes, so yes, I will be doing more. Thanks again, and I hope all is well in Berlin. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "jayrope LD" To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:15 AM Subject: Re: More stuff to listen to Mr. Moyes, i enjoy your complex-coloured cello space very much. On an intermediate technical note it is great to hear cycles mostly not appearing as loops (although i find the miking could be improved to get your instrument more body, maybe. Not needed to improve the sheer music, jthough.). However, i enjoy your complex-coloured cello space very much. Food for thought. Thank you for complex brightening up a Berlin spring morning and: More of this, please. - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Jun 18, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > More stuff to listen to From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 17:06:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93394183BFC; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=91ZNzH/i5aWsGol9ZHDpnYCAq85O5MYmzX9HaMy24Ac=; b=PuEWFjIq8UIKXmuSmRBEA4uSi1m1u01re88Gitu6Dtnib7fSFn8u6ZTRcRUk7C0reB s8npbhalPOUUO0RldlfqIvP1mz0ahPAjZ7EQjOqA7WAmrp+ZMgrgOo+8ZOCOFHTesSbF TK3fg5PyiT76flStNwZF83MGBAitmyfz5NT68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f6iUWfRQDczLJU0CT9Y1RXd/W4obQs2DZyPdSPqS+tkkFGyUgO3MlnXoAK/wU6YbSw LApko56YlvHNAM8vteoFn9UohH57ok7mBE19kFXxYmE7pyM7jBFZTs9RFKY8QC2ihZUD T5KjJIe5XcnT5i2t1trgJ8rEOB5DCi16AGGCw= Message-ID: <4DFCDB1E.4040701@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:06:38 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper), cf Vox References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> <4DFBBC3F.9040109@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC7E84.1010106@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DFC7E84.1010106@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Does it mean vdl1 will always clip in the end if you stay in overdub mode? Perhaps resampling with Volume fx could be used as a replacement for the feedback control? Is the firmware upgradeable on this unit to allow future corrections? Michał On 18.06.2011 12:31, andy butler wrote: > Jeff Duke wrote: >> Any feedback control for that looper in the vox VDL-1 Andy? > > no. > > the claim of "infinite overdubs" is pure fiction... > > strange isn't it > > andy > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 17:09:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAF97183C02; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 44605 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:09:41 UTC Subject: Is that a flying pig? From: Jeff Larson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--647310256 Message-Id: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:46:11 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <3Q9rNC.A.3KH.WvN_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:09:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--647310256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype controller that was shown at NAMM this year. It's basically a microphone with a motion sensing MIDI control surface wrapped around it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSbGkjRkXU Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. The looper I'm told was some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius. That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor. I was not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears to run surprisingly well. Some of the details need to be worked out, but I expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a fully supported platform for Mobius. What makes this extra cool is this: http://www.museresearch.com/products/musebox.php Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. Stay tuned :) Jeff --Apple-Mail-1--647310256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DHsSbGkjRkXU

Cool as that may = be, what I found most interesting (apart from that
primo spot = under the stairs) was that all the effects including = the
looping were being done by a Muse Receptor.  The = looper I'm told was
some obscure little freeware thing called = Mobius.

That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse = Receptor.  

I was not involved with this = so I don't know exactly what the
limitations are but from the = conversations I've had it appears to run
surprisingly well. =  Some of the details need to be worked out, but 
I = expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a = fully
supported platform for Mobius.  What makes this = extra cool is
this:


Mobius in that cute little thing would = be sweet.  Stay tuned = :)

Jeff

= --Apple-Mail-1--647310256-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 17:24:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5054183900; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wLuNm/IKB+Opq9jFvd8Tty2z/FIfuyCp97mxy9wOuQE=; b=EN+LNuk/q2BKUqXS1MsyJgl63eh1P6bnOACB0ntXWP9Q64oSpXoqUSDwK8d/UDtqSX 2p72DEjuQkhiLKXrVr9zlW4LjoxoNrmtqGhitWg2170L0akiwh0ZlV/F60S+MiB8eeDu MLPXgttj81KYp677jJRV02NPWUdBqTqcfcjIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lvuJrmM/AmqRsL72ogC6QO4uWj35WRjB1vlUOOD8d8B7uPCAO7ofkhVCjc9Ih74ayH iZFBwSnc217YN2aQEcqrOSSvttgtAJeQhTC7rGdo5AWgFknFwDiU+7RhJN72z6gUW8M8 /gtr/9GuULYzS9fe8okcmCSdzLiSivoHEmLHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:24:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is that a flying pig? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Jeff that's really neat. I hope that now they know the 'freeware' author they will credit/possibly comp. Congrats. Jim On 6/18/11, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype controller > that was shown at NAMM this year. It's basically a microphone > with a motion sensing MIDI control surface wrapped around it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHsSbGkjRkXU > > Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that > primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the > looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. The looper I'm told was > some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius. > > That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor. > > I was not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the > limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears to run > surprisingly well. Some of the details need to be worked out, but > I expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a fully > supported platform for Mobius. What makes this extra cool is > this: > > http://www.museresearch.com/products/musebox.php > > Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. Stay tuned :) > > Jeff > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 17:29:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6FE5183C02; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=qMeaK8/SVqyPFvQdm8E5Bsq8ynVu/LowWJs+cu1XThk=; b=EbE27tuBO76CFVXBbKhpgaSP7Rc1IHlU2bbIE0TN3Rjwl63q6iFb/okWHcNfl5r2qM 1CVVSq6tcxPnd8FP4f0egCpukO7oMNvYYO0mQi8fYBpDenH33J4xj+plDQAJs6h4+30s dmX13xLiBn47NnJyVc+nDpDkJBTtoPqgbjC3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=k5G7PR+SgS2NqF36Kfkyl4t28cMN1wUd4U1nvPLn+0m1B4H73L0GkOawZIyB2ej8W/ fhy8ucjAh7+ZanC5Rzjq1ClErsTUKsy63ysVfCz3cV9OsOBGxEzDIvbSae3UF91FdlaV eQsMWGUCDujCGxLZiTwwy1zObvYe2qCAJ8TDA= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--601539635 Subject: Re: Is that a flying pig? Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:29:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <3XYDD.A.V7H.gBO_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:29:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--601539635 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I bugged them about supporting Mobius just a few months ago! That is = great! Life would great with mobius running stable on that lil' box. On Jun 18, 2011, at 12:46 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: >=20 > Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype controller > that was shown at NAMM this year. It's basically a microphone=20 > with a motion sensing MIDI control surface wrapped around it. =20 >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHsSbGkjRkXU >=20 > Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that > primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the > looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. The looper I'm told was > some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius. >=20 > That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor. =20 >=20 > I was not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the > limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears to run > surprisingly well. Some of the details need to be worked out, but=20 > I expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a fully > supported platform for Mobius. What makes this extra cool is > this: >=20 > http://www.museresearch.com/products/musebox.php =20 >=20 > Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. Stay tuned :) >=20 > Jeff >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-1--601539635 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = bugged them about supporting Mobius just a few months ago!  That is = great! Life would great with mobius running stable on that lil' = box.
On Jun 18, 2011, at 12:46 AM, Jeff Larson = wrote:

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DHsSbGkjRkXU

Cool as that may = be, what I found most interesting (apart from that
primo spot = under the stairs) was that all the effects including = the
looping were being done by a Muse Receptor.  The = looper I'm told was
some obscure little freeware thing called = Mobius.

That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse = Receptor.  

I was not involved with this = so I don't know exactly what the
limitations are but from the = conversations I've had it appears to run
surprisingly well. =  Some of the details need to be worked out, but 
I = expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a = fully
supported platform for Mobius.  What makes this = extra cool is
this:


Mobius in that cute little thing would = be sweet.  Stay tuned = :)

Jeff


toddbass.com
twitter: = gtodd876

= --Apple-Mail-1--601539635-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 17:43:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99462183BF9; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 631853261/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.195/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.195 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlkCAJLi/E1YbRrD/2dsb2JhbAAMRoRJk02YM60JOY9DgSuDdYEKBJYwizA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,386,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="631853261" Message-ID: <4DFCE3B4.2000104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:43:16 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper), cf Vox References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> <4DFBBC3F.9040109@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC7E84.1010106@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFCDB1E.4040701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DFCDB1E.4040701@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Michał Wiernowolski wrote: > Does it mean vdl1 will always clip in the end if you stay in overdub mode? Yes, but in any case after 20 repeats the original layer starts to degrade. I think the headroom is pretty good, but then I didn't destruct test the "keep overdubbing" technique because the VDL-1 is just unsuitable. There's no automatic reduction of feedback during overdub like you'd expect. cf DL4 etc etc It works fine for distinct overdubs, just no good as a delay type looper. > > Perhaps resampling with Volume fx could be used as a replacement for the > feedback control? When you resample it's like Multiply, the addition material doesn't layer up because the loop length is extended, You'd have to stop resampling for each layer. ...so essentially yes, but not how you'd hope. What you can do is play into the 2 second delay for infinite overdubs (with feedback pedal control) and then do a synced resample of that onto a loop. :-) bet that's not enough for you > > Is the firmware upgradeable on this unit to allow future corrections? I doubt it, there's no computer connection. andy > > Michał > > On 18.06.2011 12:31, andy butler wrote: >> Jeff Duke wrote: >>> Any feedback control for that looper in the vox VDL-1 Andy? >> >> no. >> >> the claim of "infinite overdubs" is pure fiction... >> >> strange isn't it >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 18:05:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA4FD183BEC; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3zHAFp8AIUbal5nnd0HigMrrjTaGMn8pvBaPv6bd8gw=; b=cRtUjwa76uDSP8E8Vc+dj+bmm997TUAt/9lrQ5qMasBLWJbdsZlPo4xQlYoUHo4MS5 LVrKKD3e07qMKtUVm1hSZ83IURV/xg2EsFV9c5aZ+D8f+lSEfY4KEpg3SXYAXD0D7V0n M7H/KR0OiGulC59lHDuib6Utn+Gm+ZGMszw9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ovSV3UNv1AX2V6mS+OaA8ljqANMpbvogx/cPsDk4niE+8NcO4jCERsTuKGFDw3RbnM ewDXksSViTMOnBkL7V07lGTvkTjP+3OOplJa4rN8xwJtGDNOsyuILBF47JXb3ZEuDaNc I4+otJMPfOhkOpLIP5IZBwIogr3b0MHgU+Wm4= Message-ID: <4DFCE8EE.80101@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:05:34 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper), cf Vox References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> <4DFBBC3F.9040109@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC7E84.1010106@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFCDB1E.4040701@gmail.com> <4DFCE3B4.2000104@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DFCE3B4.2000104@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Thank you Andy for your comprehensive answers. I must say VDL1 looks very promising and I'm waiting eagerly for you full review. Michał From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 18:07:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58092183C05; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5TYNzhlPsqyKoU+0Sf1tik45zcZoJErftklBaZy6kBk=; b=o6EPuypnmm+Go6rfxhnPa9egs2jYfLvR7c3RnlXZO+CPUUNiRIe2BOJplFiK0KSgpq l2OIW4lq6sasMd/yPWTV7VhnlHDZ42Dl0lYqEOeDy8X5C7Da4qBalxoiLaCyrzI5teNf eUBP9uNjBKV3AoVWWx2q1Q3LmUeNn7KJxqH3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aXobuqo4BvZCK8l3WtVVHUX/GFaeGC92ZyIRiZqTDoWgHo1MgtFh1bKdyfiM+6q0eP IKQsNto2++9zfZOZjsPHSiU/fLaiD21ZGWc9FfQbo6WgJqBG1m58n/4iktLeSBoCzFDQ j496gfe/A0T75jV1JQx0nczNXo3BiemduXLAM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:07:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Good point Per! I should probably have said the built in looper in Live is "straightforward, limited and reasonably easy to use." It doesn't offer many of the possibilities of the EDP and Mobius do. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> The built in looper is straightforward and reasonably >> easy to use. > > I agree. But since you brought it up it must be said that Live's > Looper limits loop length division and multiplying to 2. For me that > is a "show stopper" since I love setting poly rhythms between parallel > loops of different lengths. This limitation does not exist if you > record loops as audio clips, but then you have no overdub or feedback > option. But you could of course host a more advanced looper in Live, > like Augustus Loop or Mobius. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > > So, no noise reduction, huh? > > Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise reduction". > Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that works > well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work > well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the > "pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live though - but > lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-) > > Per > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 18:23:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82C7D183BEF; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: portalooper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <360c8b69.b5a18.1309f38138e.Webtop.49@charter.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:23:00 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0D3CE39F-FD71-4278-B162-A1DF3118703F@grubmah.com> References: <360c8b69.b5a18.1309f38138e.Webtop.49@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:23:04 +0000 (UTC) My Y2KX setup was something like: Way Huge Swollen Pickle -> Lovepedal Pickle Vibe -> Lovepedal Eternity = -> M13 -> Tech21 Blonde & Liverpool in parallel -> M13. (I can't remember where the volume pedal was or whether I had my Weeping = Demon Wah in the chain.) This was much more portable than previous rigs. The M9 would be a nice = replacement from the standpoint of getting something that would sit on a = single pedal board though I would lose the effects loop. As it was, I = had a pedal board with everything except the M13 but including the = expression pedals for the M13 on it plus the M13. That was still easy to = move around and setup. It was interesting looping with the M13 instead of a pair of Echoplexes. The recording from Y2KX is here: http://grubmah.com/music/y2kx.mp3 I've been succumbing to more and more of an analog signal path in the = past several months, but I could easily see a minimalist rig built = around the M13 and one or two of the Tech21 amp sim pedals depending on = whether one wanted to go stereo. That would presumably all fit on a big = Pedaltrain and the effects loop means that you can have effects both = pre-amp-sim and post-amp-sim. You could also do this with the M9, but it = gets more constrained without the effects loop. On the other hand, when it comes to portable loopers, as I mentioned = last weekend, the Boomerang III is amazingly compact. Now, if only it = didn't require complex foot choreography to create a seamless loop by = going straight from record into overdub. Mark P.S. No looping capabilities, but even as I move to more analog effects, = the M5 looks tempting as a way to have a range of less used effects on = hand early in the chain. For example, I miss the Sub Octave Fuzz and the = Jet Fuzz. P.P.S. The thing that may keep my rack alive is that I don't know of = anything yet to replace some of the background tinkly ambience effects I = get from the Korg AM8000R. The various shimmers and particle verb = effects aren't quite the same. On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:08 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > I have to say, I agree. >=20 > In my "alt" small portable rig the M13 is quite nice - if your plug it = in to a tube amp. >=20 > Direct to a PA (or board) without an amp is a recipe for true = tone-suck-ville . . . believe me I've tried. >=20 > But one of those little SansAmp pedals in front of it perks up the = tone quite nicely (advice received from a number of peeps on LD). >=20 > I am through hauling around heavy amps and cabs anymore. >=20 > I won't say I'm a tone snob, but I used to work for Seymour Duncan, = and tone is important to me. >=20 > I never actually thought much of SansAmp stuff untill I tried it with = the M13. >=20 > And I hated the tone I was getting (direct) with the M13 alone until I = did. >=20 > I am still having too much fun with my MaxMSP rig these days to bother = too much with the little rig at home though.I am in sonic nirvana. >=20 > Ted >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >=20 >> ...As long as you pump it into a good tube amp, the sounds are quite = good. Inspiring even. And I never liked the sound of models before.... >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 18:25:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73C8C183BF9; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: portalooper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <0D3CE39F-FD71-4278-B162-A1DF3118703F@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:25:05 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6E3BC036-FB6E-4C2A-AC47-A690DDB34CC5@grubmah.com> References: <360c8b69.b5a18.1309f38138e.Webtop.49@charter.net> <0D3CE39F-FD71-4278-B162-A1DF3118703F@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) One other note about the M13, it seems to be pretty easy to clip the = inputs on it and it doesn't provide any sort of level indicator to show = that you are doing so. (Or if it does, I've missed it.) Mark On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > My Y2KX setup was something like: >=20 > Way Huge Swollen Pickle -> Lovepedal Pickle Vibe -> Lovepedal Eternity = -> M13 -> Tech21 Blonde & Liverpool in parallel -> M13. >=20 > (I can't remember where the volume pedal was or whether I had my = Weeping Demon Wah in the chain.) >=20 > This was much more portable than previous rigs. The M9 would be a nice = replacement from the standpoint of getting something that would sit on a = single pedal board though I would lose the effects loop. As it was, I = had a pedal board with everything except the M13 but including the = expression pedals for the M13 on it plus the M13. That was still easy to = move around and setup. >=20 > It was interesting looping with the M13 instead of a pair of = Echoplexes. >=20 > The recording from Y2KX is here: >=20 > http://grubmah.com/music/y2kx.mp3 >=20 > I've been succumbing to more and more of an analog signal path in the = past several months, but I could easily see a minimalist rig built = around the M13 and one or two of the Tech21 amp sim pedals depending on = whether one wanted to go stereo. That would presumably all fit on a big = Pedaltrain and the effects loop means that you can have effects both = pre-amp-sim and post-amp-sim. You could also do this with the M9, but it = gets more constrained without the effects loop. >=20 > On the other hand, when it comes to portable loopers, as I mentioned = last weekend, the Boomerang III is amazingly compact. Now, if only it = didn't require complex foot choreography to create a seamless loop by = going straight from record into overdub. >=20 > Mark >=20 > P.S. No looping capabilities, but even as I move to more analog = effects, the M5 looks tempting as a way to have a range of less used = effects on hand early in the chain. For example, I miss the Sub Octave = Fuzz and the Jet Fuzz. >=20 > P.P.S. The thing that may keep my rack alive is that I don't know of = anything yet to replace some of the background tinkly ambience effects I = get from the Korg AM8000R. The various shimmers and particle verb = effects aren't quite the same. >=20 > On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:08 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: >=20 >> I have to say, I agree. >>=20 >> In my "alt" small portable rig the M13 is quite nice - if your plug = it in to a tube amp. >>=20 >> Direct to a PA (or board) without an amp is a recipe for true = tone-suck-ville . . . believe me I've tried. >>=20 >> But one of those little SansAmp pedals in front of it perks up the = tone quite nicely (advice received from a number of peeps on LD). >>=20 >> I am through hauling around heavy amps and cabs anymore. >>=20 >> I won't say I'm a tone snob, but I used to work for Seymour Duncan, = and tone is important to me. >>=20 >> I never actually thought much of SansAmp stuff untill I tried it with = the M13. >>=20 >> And I hated the tone I was getting (direct) with the M13 alone until = I did. >>=20 >> I am still having too much fun with my MaxMSP rig these days to = bother too much with the little rig at home though.I am in sonic = nirvana. >>=20 >> Ted >>=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >>=20 >>> ...As long as you pump it into a good tube amp, the sounds are quite = good. Inspiring even. And I never liked the sound of models before.... >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 18:25:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D53BB183BF5; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dli4j49xsg7QBxs+bbf2UNtHogaB0bVyVSz0PWgdtMY=; b=QBiGOeITa117L+w4QTPWwXZWBGqTelsmheCJgGRb3iyph16tS650XPqcfDromkqjfS np2qN3imTn/bWNG9XeND1l2HGO5R+VzCR3rX5MhkgKhWmoyOonQLbUo/hoCdv192DwM0 oPybCD7SQfRgGfGt0VrUocJI2xXGeNle53czQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p7t5Gk0grNJUAVAngJBJqxD9eZxKsLgZD/TUNzBJOQOJqHU9vqeu+CeFicvGf8Hisk /tXo2ty6Z95vSLzdd1vZtmWOkrSecVaLFZOqGF73kS2w4Jgx1Deq3B1nJQLeMdFn3OQM 6G89oIxeoLCbxLCA0vxXZ2ZP0VSaoH0SRdx9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:25:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is that a flying pig? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Wow, how cool it that! Awesome news! On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype controller > that was shown at NAMM this year. =A0 It's basically a microphone > with a motion sensing MIDI control surface wrapped around it. > =A0 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHsSbGkjRkXU > Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that > primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the > looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. =A0The looper I'm told was > some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius. > That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor. > I was not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the > limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears to run > surprisingly well. =A0Some of the details need to be worked out, but > I expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a fully > supported platform for Mobius. =A0What makes this extra cool is > this: > =A0 =A0=A0http://www.museresearch.com/products/musebox.php > Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. =A0Stay tuned :) > Jeff > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 20:49:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76054183BF8; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:49:13 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8fa69aec-b0da-4c69-ba6c-22c91580a405_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: GITSTEP - New genre getting Live Looping into the modern world ;-) (music inside) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:44:11 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2011 20:44:12.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[7AE74D20:01CC2DF8] Resent-Message-ID: <2SD00B.A.apD.J9Q_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:49:13 +0000 (UTC) --_8fa69aec-b0da-4c69-ba6c-22c91580a405_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok so i loaded a Dunstep drum loop into the Octatrack=2C set the BMP to 95 = (the loop was 170bpm to start with) added delay and then started to sample = live guitar stuff.. Some resedue left from in the Octatrack recorders from = previous live jam. This was a LOT of fun and i hope you enjoy it and I hope= it might inspire some of you to combine live looping with other electronic= stuff not usually associated with live looping... perhaps (whatever Live L= ooping IS..) Enjoyhttp://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/gitstep-git-down-and-step-up = --_8fa69aec-b0da-4c69-ba6c-22c91580a405_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok so i loaded a Dunstep drum loop into the Octatrack=2C set the BMP to 95 = (the loop was 170bpm to start with) added delay and then started to sample = live guitar stuff.. =3B
Some resedue left from in the Octatrack rec= orders from previous live jam. This was a LOT of fun and i hope you enjoy i= t and I hope it might inspire some of you to combine live looping with othe= r electronic stuff not usually associated with live looping... perhaps (wha= tever Live Looping IS..)

Enjoy

= --_8fa69aec-b0da-4c69-ba6c-22c91580a405_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 21:35:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7524F183BF6; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tYyrh0TbhggYdFiW87QWJr+nbdqvzWO3GarzxhQ2Z/Q=; b=xksfW9smqdxttal1qHN/vMrTrZvjzx0l6SGkCnnIGTWnQxNh2hccwcFBkdYybzwMpH WXhJZhg5oTTDSQ+TZGUvVD+hNgovazGLn4D862XL83XdneLO7d6gS7Ga1sxR2V42cLJK O/07nPyohef80bK5J4aRnHAJWIjOicWHXJYgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wPCSOPn8vgAGjh2fhZX+jIqjpOUaD0R3mTtr9JG0M4KOnNHo5Gsaze8hmjFWx3U8Ks 9Q0F6qcO/gf+QUqM41yP+KRKEVLYiUEkhc25IgAsbMquNG8pngTYeEDZOmrJ6nMTtCqI MZNJXix7Z14WaRIcBDyEqvTqg8OKRtwAWnXxc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:34:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64fcc5a1f95fc04a603469d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:34:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64fcc5a1f95fc04a603469d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/6/18 Per Boysen > > Myself I rarely use those tools today, since they all color the sound > in some way. > I'm using Izotope RX2 Suite for mastering purposes. It's suposed to be top notch, but as Per says, all these tools ruin well done recordings. Strange enough, I have friends more 'into the business' that use to denoise every take they do. They're useful for more extreme restoration tasks, but I like to follow that old thumb rule: Take your time to record the best possible sound prints at the very first stage. I too prefer EQs. .02 ra=FCl. --=20 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination, they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. Kim Flint .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016e64fcc5a1f95fc04a603469d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2011/6/18 Per Boysen &= lt;perboysen@gmail.com>

Myself I rarely use those tools today, since they all color the sound
in some way.

I'm using Izotope RX2 Suite for = mastering purposes. It's suposed to be top notch, but as Per says, all = these tools ruin well done recordings. Strange enough, I have friends more = 'into the business' that use to denoise every take they do. They= 9;re useful for more extreme restoration tasks, but I like to follow that o= ld thumb rule: Take your time to record the best possible sound prints at t= he very first stage.

I too prefer EQs.

.02
ra=FCl.



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Your moral values are meaningless, artificial = constructs. For your imagination,
they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.
For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e= asily manipulated.
In reality, they serve the en= tertainment needs of others.
In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.

Kim= Flint
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--0016e64fcc5a1f95fc04a603469d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 22:14:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 821E7183ABE; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XhlJlfCAxDxtR9PMTTGyTkDQQfm3rhrgKSP/EGlEOEM=; b=jpR6mtsB2VeTyY9BeWqHLhHbSNjIyI+f2yeP4rUeTGbcgW51A0zl2zZnbB56PA8mJw Kz3aHLL1V8kWKcZJhs/jy9ef2xYmMMXo7sCJGlqKixOOp+2hfZJazZwrQLzm34bCT2SM 3WE1ntNPAHP33ef4snXOpSFQxC0QbIUmoHSN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SEE5LBHR2JDBwpE0X0xlPeW2fhbNbsq1+rQpLp2GeKgu1/Sb2GOfRzKpGwuKZuXj9H /NOXO0WTJdAGWB6N2hWDEcGh+2QfyIWPJptEubu1vKeu/ZzkRQqxC+RbXmKxyeP98tQV +FPutHnu9a08BNOa835MDa2IysfETs1aiB4RQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:14:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 From: Alexandre Klinke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I was afraid that day would come, but after using the FCB1010 for 2 years, one of the switches is broken. I tried to find replacement parts, without luck. Then I started to look for other pedals, since I don't trust the quality of the fcb anymore. Roland fc-200 looks pretty cool but it has been discontinued. Roland fc-300 has too few switches for my needs, and two expression pedals that I am not gonna use. Then I found this Yamaha MFC-10, never heard anything about it, so I'm curious to see if any of you have any experience with that. Does it send midi notes? My setup is this: guitar -> motu ultralite -> macbook pro -> ableton with mobius as a plugin -> output to re-amp box -> guitar amp. Any thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks, Alex alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 22:35:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 629E4183BE1; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gS2k9SoKIvhoCduQ8eNCwjJwaO95W8gfzA5fuslD3C0=; b=UlfyPpXEOaIIA/1eMZwINWvWfL1sV4C9GKLsa/2GP8YpiZmcQZrVhtFeTiKaabPq1C J7ysMEmFoLcZ4qCTg4XPfz9SfrcqEHgmAOCkS/QpkBU89WJvD79ySedEJNKE2pm6oAs1 EMh468P18MN3Jc8x7jjN2k+lSAsToYGhnRx88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NwOmxBhfNcSw6/EG22oyU4Q4p3gT7+u0YBW0Gwf1sWEZNR0LaftD5ZYCaa0SmxiK03 44Otdh3r2TIJrQxFqLgqFShU5UIP3Q6V2bcUxUApqziPcKqt9cYZEDzWcbyHzbsMxipm RYDIXs+t3YsQ4LPzus8je9ZW1YzVMqYu/f/bE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:35:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:35:57 +0000 (UTC) I believe there were some serious latency issues with the Yamaha but I could be wrong. I think Andy B did some tests a while back (is that right Andy?). Or you can search the Loopers Delight archives and I'm sure you'll find more. Kevin On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Alexandre Klinke wrote: > Hi all, > > I was afraid that day would come, but after using the FCB1010 for 2 > years, one of the switches is broken. > I tried to find replacement parts, without luck. > Then I started to look for other pedals, since I don't trust the > quality of the fcb anymore. > Roland fc-200 looks pretty cool but it has been discontinued. > Roland fc-300 has too few switches for my needs, and two expression > pedals that I am not gonna use. > Then I found this Yamaha MFC-10, never heard anything about it, so I'm > curious to see if any of you have any experience with that. Does it > send midi notes? > > My setup is this: guitar -> motu ultralite -> macbook pro -> ableton > with mobius as a plugin -> output to re-amp box -> guitar amp. > > Any thoughts are much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Alex > > > alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 22:48:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBE1C183BE4; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=75Ca12Jtt+PzucIpe3jvQT96xPCPQNm70ygxfzuwoBY=; b=qfPUtIGh26E/XrG7vj13VYlBluujjZLdhZfJH/oettKWz5uHaqoAB5uoeAyaF7p5lU +EmafnZvyKfS+m0pg3GEvw1i4639jKpYERkA+71UKoS0gkPehlcXWLrQrQ87WM3Bus3N JprC9luVtG0M1rIscAKmjYq1qqP9Gbfzupkwo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cW2NMs74zg6s+zv/L4UbaJn2cCl6/LC9zxgjvJBaE3CLuum1kwOSIu5M4jUskn8Q2f U75ED+SxUg+ENyotumrJ6d3uQAHnVtng9ufFD17kXTmwnITkYB+XfRDsqkHAWgvqhyT/ vCgpjkBO+tPiBAXGsu2DZmhV+3tyNjJV+l9AY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:48:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Tim Clement To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3011d803d691c604a6044c8f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:48:27 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3011d803d691c604a6044c8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME UNSUBSCRIBE TO LOOPERS DELIGHT..MY MAILBOX FILLS UP EVERY HOUR WITH THIS TRIVIA On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I'm curious about Ableton Live, as recording/composing software. Since it > costs a decent amount of money, I'd better ask a few questions first. > > I'd like to be able to: > > --Set an initial loop (or click track) > --Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop > --For looped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number of > repeats of the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measures, I > want to be able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3 > measures, 4 measures, etc.) > --For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of the > clip and turn those portions into loops. > --For individual tracks, include tools for normalization (of volume) and > noise reduction. > --Turn off the beat matching > --Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to > re-link them to the project. > --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files across a > workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I can decide whether or not they > sync up with the existing tracks). > > Does it do all this stuff? > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > -- *Tim Clement* phone: 416.536.8172 mobile: 647.832.8172 fax: 416.519.1816 --20cf3011d803d691c604a6044c8f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME UNSUBSCRIBE TO LOOPERS DELIGHT..MY MAILBOX FILLS UP = EVERY HOUR WITH THIS TRIVIA

On Fri, Jun 1= 7, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm curious about Ableton Live, as reco= rding/composing software. Since it costs a decent amount of money, I'd = better ask a few questions first.

I'd like to be able to:

--Set an initial loop (or click trac= k)
--Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop
--For loo= ped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number of repeats of = the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measures, I want to be = able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3 measures, 4 meas= ures, etc.)
--For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of the cli= p and turn those portions into loops.
--For individual tracks, include t= ools for normalization (of volume) and noise reduction.
--Turn off the b= eat matching
--Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to re-l= ink them to the project.
--In "arrangement view", Copy/paste p= ortions of audio files across a workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I c= an decide whether or not they sync up with the existing tracks).

Does it do all this stuff?
--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/riboso= mematt



--
Tim Clement
phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172
mobile:=A0 6= 47.832.8172
fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 416.519.1816

--20cf3011d803d691c604a6044c8f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 18 23:40:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6438C183BF8; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q216bQHCBuVbFgoYG8s4JtQlx7j/UKlPIdfdswn1NJA=; b=dIKnbEAaxxICBdxa4DYTapPUwbWnEZ35giU56iN5gmxNF77WNckOv8nXzXgrGzQ+rV eM4u87YZzZ/SPQjPM/CIILDGsl1NmB4lOZbE+Ykpu+Stax1R7SJRMJEDawXGizb8T65N RbeTtCk67ZLW76wtwzGSLPALp0JVUhQM8th30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CaQOttLR3MoQSjEygoKxrmc23otbaG6fbfm/kIGtxrZcS61s9V3+sBafWYlFAH35ho 0hUm4OSyNpujPw+xWVjENH7x3MAucy6T4qe7Opv1slvFA0xYDi0ggfp3AR3KWfTNfxz5 qU+ZudebZn6CPHfS9b/Mb+/xI8A/EcFwnHyOo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:40:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is that a flying pig? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174028c6db13be04a60506e7 Resent-Message-ID: <04lhnB.A.RcG.rdT_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:40:28 +0000 (UTC) --0015174028c6db13be04a60506e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That would be awesome! Would like to know what the fidelity is like though, I.e. would this need a pre-amp. On Jun 18, 2011 1:25 PM, "Art Simon" wrote: > Wow, how cool it that! Awesome news! > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> >> Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype controller >> that was shown at NAMM this year. It's basically a microphone >> with a motion sensing MIDI control surface wrapped around it. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSbGkjRkXU >> Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that >> primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the >> looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. The looper I'm told was >> some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius. >> That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor. >> I was not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the >> limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears to run >> surprisingly well. Some of the details need to be worked out, but >> I expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a fully >> supported platform for Mobius. What makes this extra cool is >> this: >> http://www.museresearch.com/products/musebox.php >> Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. Stay tuned :) >> Jeff >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > --0015174028c6db13be04a60506e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That would be awesome! Would like to know what the fidelity is like thou= gh, I.e. would this need a pre-amp.

On Jun 18, 2011 1:25 PM, "Art Simon" &= lt;simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, how cool it that! Awesome news!
>
&= gt; On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype= controller
>> that was shown at NAMM this year. =A0 It's basi= cally a microphone
>> with a motion sensing MIDI control surface w= rapped around it.
>> =A0 =A0ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHsSbGkjRkXU
>> Cool as that may= be, what I found most interesting (apart from that
>> primo spot = under the stairs) was that all the effects including the
>> looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. =A0The looper I'm = told was
>> some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius.
&= gt;> That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor.
>> I w= as not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the
>> limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears= to run
>> surprisingly well. =A0Some of the details need to be wo= rked out, but
>> I expect that in the near future the Receptor wil= l become a fully
>> supported platform for Mobius. =A0What makes this extra cool is>> this:
>> =A0 =A0=A0http://www.museresearch.com/products/musebox.php
>> Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. =A0Stay tune= d :)
>> Jeff
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ar= t Simon
> simart@gmail.com> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>
--0015174028c6db13be04a60506e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 00:29:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 152C1183BF8; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LQANen3LegKxqQfKSpAsS6JA/lLpzBcTO1AUSO0l5z0=; b=SYWs6QWA7vceg5/JgO7Bfx9hUTuJZrAVNIk8h/gqkd5vrzI/9377oYFG7FskP23lyL XYF1cyhZn6SML5Nn9Qj2emOlStwlcw86ATM0GbYjezACkOSrlJMWpGWjDoaZRKysnf/R 8a2OX9lwyySbhKV7ERflesSw7erSXtViDfV8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ciJR3w/cpM2uqNI776wqsyZFzl8pRyWDofJ0jW4e8slkmV6RT0XlrLo87X+hlkG4YB lA/7T0Lvgof3qMd8IXxxBNZkHrb4ZGSFPRWgSDKTbuvWpuj4gEH0rXUOVNNweL7++bcE ynOhpIKbBv2svuovNQOH9NczRuHl1lfNIwhGo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:29:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is that a flying pig? From: Tim Clement To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3011d803e7071904a605b441 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:29:08 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3011d803e7071904a605b441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 get me outa here! On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:40 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > That would be awesome! Would like to know what the fidelity is like though, > I.e. would this need a pre-amp. > On Jun 18, 2011 1:25 PM, "Art Simon" wrote: > > Wow, how cool it that! Awesome news! > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jeff Larson > wrote: > >> > >> Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype controller > >> that was shown at NAMM this year. It's basically a microphone > >> with a motion sensing MIDI control surface wrapped around it. > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSbGkjRkXU > >> Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that > >> primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the > >> looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. The looper I'm told was > >> some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius. > >> That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor. > >> I was not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the > >> limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears to run > >> surprisingly well. Some of the details need to be worked out, but > >> I expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a fully > >> supported platform for Mobius. What makes this extra cool is > >> this: > >> http://www.museresearch.com/products/musebox.php > >> Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. Stay tuned :) > >> Jeff > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Art Simon > > simart@gmail.com > > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > > -- *Tim Clement* phone: 416.536.8172 mobile: 647.832.8172 fax: 416.519.1816 --20cf3011d803e7071904a605b441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable get me outa here!


On Sat, Jun 18, 201= 1 at 7:40 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

That would be awesome! Would like to know what the fidelity is like thou= gh, I.e. would this need a pre-amp.

On Jun 18, 2011 1:25 PM, "Art Simon" &= lt;simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, how cool it that! Awesome n= ews!
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wr= ote:
>>
>> Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype= controller
>> that was shown at NAMM this year. =A0 It's basi= cally a microphone
>> with a motion sensing MIDI control surface w= rapped around it.
>> =A0 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHsSbGkjRkXU
>>= ; Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that
&g= t;> primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the<= br> >> looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. =A0The looper I'm = told was
>> some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius.
&= gt;> That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor.
>> I w= as not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the
>> limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears= to run
>> surprisingly well. =A0Some of the details need to be wo= rked out, but
>> I expect that in the near future the Receptor wil= l become a fully
>> supported platform for Mobius. =A0What makes this extra cool is>> this:
>> =A0 =A0=A0http://www.museresearch.com/produ= cts/musebox.php
>> Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. =A0Stay tuned :)<= br> >> Jeff
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ar= t Simon
> simar= t@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>



--
Tim Clement
phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172
mobile:=A0 6= 47.832.8172
fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 416.519.1816

--20cf3011d803e7071904a605b441-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 00:53:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98586183BF9; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9AqHXexkw6Ielswnk9kjicVdFXSeO8sDVTStuGa32W4=; b=qDpVuEUijk99mnkw/fREJi4P0vOyTruoU/+4s7JMaGdSLy00hnqfzRW13RSJaBQLbB oRGfpd5w37hMmeBRtteNzCfJ7x0VdZ0UNGEmpUKVlWtrlDOHJ1rvACGE+Xy9hEXPZWnu LSdvdIUw7XvcdmmvotmyW4eHG7nX5UuQZHjkk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uT9UVfxqRiIej//LSsZR08TfgPhkrY8f2WcmpSIdBbAAuKuwr3zUzBlvjErpRNqodQ i843KlbsVUku3C5ajdN0/PncUFdN3DyQIMGuyLxPvGbRH2++KTLo1d1dUysaBEGPXi7k 6wnn6HTZyuSZtQWOWeMirezKjl5M0q2DP3Bl4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:53:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Jeffery Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a2d5b8035e04a6060a2d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:53:09 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a2d5b8035e04a6060a2d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Tim, pretty simple really, and can be found at the Looper's Delight website! and I quote: *I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand.* To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html Have a good one Tim! -Jeff Duke Jr. On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Tim Clement wrote: > PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME UNSUBSCRIBE TO LOOPERS DELIGHT..MY MAILBOX FILLS UP > EVERY HOUR WITH THIS TRIVIA > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> I'm curious about Ableton Live, as recording/composing software. Since it >> costs a decent amount of money, I'd better ask a few questions first. >> >> I'd like to be able to: >> >> --Set an initial loop (or click track) >> --Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop >> --For looped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number of >> repeats of the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measures, I >> want to be able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3 >> measures, 4 measures, etc.) >> --For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of the >> clip and turn those portions into loops. >> --For individual tracks, include tools for normalization (of volume) and >> noise reduction. >> --Turn off the beat matching >> --Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to >> re-link them to the project. >> --In "arrangement view", Copy/paste portions of audio files across a >> workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I can decide whether or not they >> sync up with the existing tracks). >> >> Does it do all this stuff? >> >> -- >> Matt Davignon >> mattdavignon@gmail.com >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >> Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >> > > > > -- > *Tim Clement* > phone: 416.536.8172 > mobile: 647.832.8172 > fax: 416.519.1816 > > --001636c5a2d5b8035e04a6060a2d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim, pretty simple really, and can be found at the Looper's Delight web= site!

and I quote:

I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from= Looper's Delight. How do I do that? It's not that I dislike people= there or anything, you understand.

To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscri= be" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, t= o:

Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com=

http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html
<= /font>

Have a good one Tim!

-Jeff Duke Jr.

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com> wrote:=
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME UNSUBSCRIBE TO LOOPERS DELIGHT..MY MAILBOX FILLS UP = EVERY HOUR WITH THIS TRIVIA


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Matt Davignon <= mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm curious about Ableton Live, as recor= ding/composing software. Since it costs a decent amount of money, I'd b= etter ask a few questions first.

I'd like to be able to:

--Set an initial loop (or click trac= k)
--Record additional material either as a loop or not as a loop
--For loo= ped material, pre-determine if the new loop length in number of repeats of = the first loop. (For example, if my first loop is 2 measures, I want to be = able to record other tracks of loops that are 1 measure, 3 measures, 4 meas= ures, etc.)
--For non-looped material, I want to be able to cut portions out of the cli= p and turn those portions into loops.
--For individual tracks, include t= ools for normalization (of volume) and noise reduction.
--Turn off the b= eat matching
--Name the original .wav files of each loop or clip without needing to re-l= ink them to the project.
--In "arrangement view", Copy/paste p= ortions of audio files across a workspace in an arbitrary manner (where I c= an decide whether or not they sync up with the existing tracks).

Does it do all this stuff?
--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/riboso= mematt



--
Tim Clement<= /font>
phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172
mobile:=A0 647.832= .8172
fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 416.519.1816=


--001636c5a2d5b8035e04a6060a2d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 01:04:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 946C8183BF9; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=avDXPA5/jP47yANNMhBeMpbt5fnizBwUsbqOikwSCh8=; b=s1jLE1baXkSrVdyapTmjhdnCjscwtqXSti4aFuECoQKhNewa4pl3cuGLivFSgyvIfc gMesZS3S9z96mEbYHod3k7ZQcaYWuGDpDoh3sXi2xdOQ+gyiZ00fSFd5PyPXHRnGOJnT f3zx8I58iC8ICfsUcCA+k2l3tuu2oTH5J31ww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=U2VoZ7jAgJvXF73vYIkA0Yrtkw7VLQvweDUqO/bIYDE3ygu83iPTbanKhOaGz9Rue3 jbkJq5vVtr80nrPpLcBfyYEsHLf/aMpix8v7vVCuAzXBthed7kw6jIJRD22H6eqGWECe LByMrr1IAm+kWucbgwrWNrDScdEXsateoqAX8= Subject: Re: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 References: From: Eric DeAratanha Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2B885423-9134-47BE-AC8A-D0A1D61BEE64@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:03:58 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:04:55 +0000 (UTC) I have an FCB 1010 that I no longer use that I'd sell to you if you want it.= :) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrot= e: > I believe there were some serious latency issues with the Yamaha but I > could be wrong. I think Andy B did some tests a while back (is that > right Andy?). Or you can search the Loopers Delight archives and I'm > sure you'll find more. >=20 > Kevin >=20 > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Alexandre Klinke > wrote: >> Hi all, >>=20 >> I was afraid that day would come, but after using the FCB1010 for 2 >> years, one of the switches is broken. >> I tried to find replacement parts, without luck. >> Then I started to look for other pedals, since I don't trust the >> quality of the fcb anymore. >> Roland fc-200 looks pretty cool but it has been discontinued. >> Roland fc-300 has too few switches for my needs, and two expression >> pedals that I am not gonna use. >> Then I found this Yamaha MFC-10, never heard anything about it, so I'm >> curious to see if any of you have any experience with that. Does it >> send midi notes? >>=20 >> My setup is this: guitar -> motu ultralite -> macbook pro -> ableton >> with mobius as a plugin -> output to re-amp box -> guitar amp. >>=20 >> Any thoughts are much appreciated. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Alex >>=20 >>=20 >> alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.= >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 03:45:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6D14183BF6; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/7nHGUgRe010+8nWVD8tWvS+2dDF80AW5ZMLfDafOts=; b=MA22H9jrEGbVYeFgNHVaPov+AVnhk74BMDQ4dI73hNY4oEfg7pq+fhIDlhyHPF2q5g ka2gSu+aM4uHz8kjSq7ecMFZvFx9yz5EO2+DYjDKTybRBnvBU3BU1fY5D3lWCIWbNrKY 4WRX8Cf7EnUkkguWPqPdMYynr89c1lQuQrVzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fUe5Ty0y1/NZk5duS5sW2TU//xe36asJlolazPAgKSgr+8ve3+9niORkfBw2CcH7xF kMywyRWKg4Z1tXNXzuWorm232nGIIJ7wPYqBs5aUtQV/P7la20myDhztNc/53AjhvW1F BUFFClqUHAvfnkuAv6jzeo5/qPsZ00g8Ruinc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2B885423-9134-47BE-AC8A-D0A1D61BEE64@gmail.com> References: <2B885423-9134-47BE-AC8A-D0A1D61BEE64@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:45:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ecfcbc4be604a6087207 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:45:23 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ecfcbc4be604a6087207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 rocktron midimate = awesome - jim On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Eric DeAratanha wrote: > I have an FCB 1010 that I no longer use that I'd sell to you if you want > it. :) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > > > I believe there were some serious latency issues with the Yamaha but I > > could be wrong. I think Andy B did some tests a while back (is that > > right Andy?). Or you can search the Loopers Delight archives and I'm > > sure you'll find more. > > > > Kevin > > > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Alexandre Klinke > > wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I was afraid that day would come, but after using the FCB1010 for 2 > >> years, one of the switches is broken. > >> I tried to find replacement parts, without luck. > >> Then I started to look for other pedals, since I don't trust the > >> quality of the fcb anymore. > >> Roland fc-200 looks pretty cool but it has been discontinued. > >> Roland fc-300 has too few switches for my needs, and two expression > >> pedals that I am not gonna use. > >> Then I found this Yamaha MFC-10, never heard anything about it, so I'm > >> curious to see if any of you have any experience with that. Does it > >> send midi notes? > >> > >> My setup is this: guitar -> motu ultralite -> macbook pro -> ableton > >> with mobius as a plugin -> output to re-amp box -> guitar amp. > >> > >> Any thoughts are much appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Alex > >> > >> > >> alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > > --000e0cd6ecfcbc4be604a6087207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rocktron midimate =3D awesome

- jim

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Eric DeAratanha <dearatanha@gmail.com> w= rote:
I have an FCB 1010 that I no longer use tha= t I'd sell to you if you want it. :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe there were some serious latency issues with the Yamaha but I=
> could be wrong. =A0I think Andy B did some tests a while back (is that=
> right Andy?). =A0Or you can search the Loopers Delight archives and I&= #39;m
> sure you'll find more.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Alexandre Klinke
> <alexandre.klinke@gma= il.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was afraid that day would come, but after using the FCB1010 for = 2
>> years, one of the switches is broken.
>> I tried to find replacement parts, without luck.
>> Then I started to look for other pedals, since I don't trust t= he
>> quality of the fcb anymore.
>> Roland fc-200 looks pretty cool but it has been discontinued.
>> Roland fc-300 has too few switches for my needs, and two expressio= n
>> pedals that I am not gonna use.
>> Then I found this Yamaha MFC-10, never heard anything about it, so= I'm
>> curious to see if any of you have any experience with that. Does i= t
>> send midi notes?
>>
>> My setup is this: guitar -> motu ultralite -> macbook pro -&= gt; ableton
>> with mobius as a plugin -> output to re-amp box -> guitar am= p.
>>
>> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> = alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>


--000e0cd6ecfcbc4be604a6087207-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 04:48:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D87D1183BF8; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LJNFq5FlC74PfR8TDy8tv1Zsfxme+lW1BEAiW+pz7Y4=; b=kRUg90R2+78n5pYOjpldshCKax8tQ870OH12ctr+6Imn/QY9KXmcbnHlozD0thqzOL Oix3kF9DsCyXcJ4dPFbbT6364XxwvTsQn7UVm8LO65CUaYuU/2pK+CwEHYHgY3MHl67d Wp5YzVpci9AJDUrdjpUKRtM4C6xf+FYz6pHxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZaEP2y1dBZ9syH5PhETRCcjuTw2a3b+mXmFOombcCmWvzerR8bM0w39UI19wfSI13l Dl2XBO338sozjvpWqZGwouvCM3Nhc+zNrv+W82rdhpVcsIG8QjYW5/8DqO0xqkhEbAiY Zsy5Se+jbb03o/jOI5CzPwMWsn/JA/NwySnM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:48:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Ableton Live From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65aea1a802c6b04a60953ab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:48:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65aea1a802c6b04a60953ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually you don't need the Looper in Ableton to do loop based music with. You just need a controller to use the record playback functions to get your loops done. What you do after that is solely up to your imagination. Just ask Christopher Willits. As he's been doing a show about using a guitar and Ableton and Max for live for a while now. Here's one of his videos on the subject.... http://youtu.be/u_k2HlUdL2Q Cheers. J On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Good point Per! I should probably have said the built in looper in > Live is "straightforward, limited and reasonably easy to use." It > doesn't offer many of the possibilities of the EDP and Mobius do. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Art Simon wrote: > >> The built in looper is straightforward and reasonably > >> easy to use. > > > > I agree. But since you brought it up it must be said that Live's > > Looper limits loop length division and multiplying to 2. For me that > > is a "show stopper" since I love setting poly rhythms between parallel > > loops of different lengths. This limitation does not exist if you > > record loops as audio clips, but then you have no overdub or feedback > > option. But you could of course host a more advanced looper in Live, > > like Augustus Loop or Mobius. > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon > wrote: > > > > So, no noise reduction, huh? > > > > Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise reduction". > > Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that works > > well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work > > well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the > > "pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live though - but > > lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-) > > > > Per > > > > > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --0016e65aea1a802c6b04a60953ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually you don't need the Looper in Ableton to do loop based music wi= th. You just need a controller to use the record playback functions to get = your loops done. What you do after that is solely up to your imagination. J= ust ask Christopher Willits. As he's been doing a show about using a gu= itar and Ableton and Max for live for a while now.

Here's one of his videos on the subject....=A0http://youtu.be/u_k2HlUdL2Q
Cheers. J

On Sat, Jun 18, 201= 1 at 2:07 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
Good point Per! I should probably have said= the built in looper in
Live is "straightforward, limited and reasonably easy to use." It=
doesn't offer many of the possibilities of the EDP and Mobius do.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The built in looper is straightforward and reasonably
>> easy to use.
>
> I agree. But since you brought it up it must be said that Live's > Looper limits loop length division and multiplying to 2. For me that > is a "show stopper" since I love setting poly rhythms betwee= n parallel
> loops of different lengths. This limitation does not exist if you
> record loops as audio clips, but then you have no overdub or feedback<= br> > option. But you could of course host a more advanced looper in Live, > like Augustus Loop or Mobius.
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, no noise reduction, huh?
>
> Noop. If you don't regard sophisticated use of EQ "noise redu= ction".
> Generally I don't know about any software noise reduction that wor= ks
> well on a direct audio input stream, but many such algorithms work
> well on audio that has already been recorded to disc thanks to the
> "pre listen" functionality. Finding no such thing in Live th= ough - but
> lots of distortion and noise creating tools ;-)
>
> Per
>
>



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon

--0016e65aea1a802c6b04a60953ab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 05:28:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDB2F183BF8; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 05:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=op8QPZhfJyuokSdgTDzYSseRmdZQLC6563ZMO4w9cT0=; b=pdiU3NDZqwY3fUqVwZ58CH28x3wh8YPg4pu5zqkvaQ8QLQSp57Ic9QsmOBZIkeAJHH fuWWLmsAQiMLvltS9lQnsSkWcJR9Q49aCTOOquNq7agQPPSeBejFwJ8we9slGvG3Tyws pf1T1IvtL7uoOCC8HBSbxjXwWKJWH6eJENIYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F/NRKBFEc2XUDSipUwXw91dDTxThmn324WOyTHfRLya7DPMwYt6otdlP17307Ij95k VngTMGAsvbx01ekETZjY4bcEvHzdtsMs0gptXFGM/P8MK20LgamO9igRHm4RFLTh1D35 2FmCm4Geivr401FrOlBrSbxMfeeBNcQ1zBb2o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:27:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is that a flying pig? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cc629ae7da04a609e191 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 05:27:59 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cc629ae7da04a609e191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hmm, not sure how you get out, how did you get in? hint http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Tim Clement wrote: > get me outa here! > > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:40 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > >> That would be awesome! Would like to know what the fidelity is like >> though, I.e. would this need a pre-amp. >> On Jun 18, 2011 1:25 PM, "Art Simon" wrote: >> > Wow, how cool it that! Awesome news! >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jeff Larson >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype controller >> >> that was shown at NAMM this year. It's basically a microphone >> >> with a motion sensing MIDI control surface wrapped around it. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSbGkjRkXU >> >> Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that >> >> primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the >> >> looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. The looper I'm told was >> >> some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius. >> >> That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor. >> >> I was not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the >> >> limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears to run >> >> surprisingly well. Some of the details need to be worked out, but >> >> I expect that in the near future the Receptor will become a fully >> >> supported platform for Mobius. What makes this extra cool is >> >> this: >> >> http://www.museresearch.com/products/musebox.php >> >> Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. Stay tuned :) >> >> Jeff >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Art Simon >> > simart@gmail.com >> > myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > >> > > > > -- > *Tim Clement* > phone: 416.536.8172 > mobile: 647.832.8172 > fax: 416.519.1816 > > --20cf3071cc629ae7da04a609e191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm, not sure how you get out, how did you get in?

hint=A0=A0 http://www.loopers-= delight.com/list/LoopList.html

On Sat= , Jun 18, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com> wrote:
get me outa here!=


On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:40 PM, mar= cus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

That would be awesome! Would like to know what the fidelity is like thou= gh, I.e. would this need a pre-amp.

On Jun 18, 2011 1:25 PM, "Art Simon" &= lt;simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, how cool it that! Awesome n= ews!
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wr= ote:
>>
>> Hi friends, I was informed of an interesting prototype= controller
>> that was shown at NAMM this year. =A0 It's basi= cally a microphone
>> with a motion sensing MIDI control surface w= rapped around it.
>> =A0 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHsSbGkjRkXU
>>= ; Cool as that may be, what I found most interesting (apart from that
&g= t;> primo spot under the stairs) was that all the effects including the<= br> >> looping were being done by a Muse Receptor. =A0The looper I'm = told was
>> some obscure little freeware thing called Mobius.
&= gt;> That's right, Mobius runs on the Muse Receptor.
>> I w= as not involved with this so I don't know exactly what the
>> limitations are but from the conversations I've had it appears= to run
>> surprisingly well. =A0Some of the details need to be wo= rked out, but
>> I expect that in the near future the Receptor wil= l become a fully
>> supported platform for Mobius. =A0What makes this extra cool is>> this:
>> =A0 =A0=A0http://www.museresearch.com/produ= cts/musebox.php
>> Mobius in that cute little thing would be sweet. =A0Stay tuned :)<= br> >> Jeff
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ar= t Simon
> simar= t@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>



--
= Tim Clement
phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172
mobile:= =A0 6= 47.832.8172
fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 416.519.181= 6


--20cf3071cc629ae7da04a609e191-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 08:15:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3771618373E; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 635236425/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.202/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlECAGGv/U1V0rbK/2dsb2JhbAAMRZgRmDO8IoYqBJYwizA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,388,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="635236425" Message-ID: <4DFDB012.20800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:15:14 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Alexandre Klinke wrote: > Hi all, > > I was afraid that day would come, but after using the FCB1010 for 2 > years, one of the switches is broken. > I tried to find replacement parts, without luck. in Europe Office@PMS-electronics.com > Then I found this Yamaha MFC-10, never heard anything about it, so I'm > curious to see if any of you have any experience with that. Does it > send midi notes? yes, after a delay of about 70mS (confirmed by Yamaha tech support uk,) totally useless for looping andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 08:28:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B81A1834D0; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 631801572/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.202/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlECAPmx/U1V0rbK/2dsb2JhbAAMRZgRtjOeI4YqBJYwizA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,388,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="631801572" Message-ID: <4DFDB30F.4080103@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:27:59 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Replacement switches for fcb1010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:28:01 +0000 (UTC) ok folks here it is, the little switch which goes on the main circuit board and is pushed by the big footswitches. http://tinyurl.com/3gxxu85 there's other spares available, but be prepared that you may need to send a photo of the part you want, ...for "China" ...yes, however much you think your verbal description is unambiguous, they want a photo. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 11:00:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FDD81834E4; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O4aZBCMBD2YHt+THzrsXckPoQV6uFmkFc+ju5W1bXRA=; b=JhZBPvk6VpiYoy+vOB+LEFOqxdyl+kMQZthjc4sC5GsgBYD6FZ78/6b8YldP3K6g/K StdhNWNAbqozfdbXFJS3dVDAWiZIVfGi6k9EvHIp6OuLf0+5ONMNuWB3SBzHQEvigVoG +06SmXmOic4z2qH/R9U8jqxDwjf/BOt0as0qc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=L/sXI4+HUbwDIVNc3qINjDQp1DxRxmGN+7gbijOCNyuxyAqsXGhBtFn6M5OFV4VJ0Z i7V9b164h4Kw4hdUzxWytNpaVlxfCwAAf1nN+yVnQUH9l8qJjyOwADZjGbUQKGz9Umk0 P0w3/AMlGmja5TXagczy9fXK9ximmilJVDTt8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:00:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Abobe Audition From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <_b6omC.A.Kw.Abd_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:00:16 +0000 (UTC) If u are hunting for a good audio editor dont forget Wavelab is also available for mac now,i cannot compare it to audition though! Luis On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Awesome, I didn't realize it was for mac too. I'm going to download the trial now. > > On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:12 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> Per Boysen wrote: >>> Yes, Cool Edit was kind of "the holy graal" for audio restoration >>> under Window OS. Nice that it is still alive in Audition! >> >> Audition now available for mac. >> >> best toolbox a boy ever had :-) >> >> andy >> > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 11:09:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8A991834B5; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ogN4TOSS20asNT5nLs2CSqFMq/Qp3HVcgiSI81gUNeA=; b=xMDkHBrHx0Jw1lF8rZdo5rryzW1IYaiOM06yFnGcREkFnYbjddYTQ/LCjcdyX6g8lP IALyq467OZdVu6CMNbTmPzDreoQo7FKLkwyWQV+OIu4kgc12D0VbVzZn0zBe2S28QI+V kNjr4eYOCtNAXln3RqUF6FwOGJv5qyD3X47sM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xrGi3N6udrdqxVJK2P0iX9nKvwDsJhZEtZW8KxVJDfm5Jn++ZTBPOd7SMA/6c4osU2 yCF6ILesWM3Wvew3NSFg9rGueY76SSOjs1uQRK+BwTsO8UFecN7at3bVqb+YoqCh3HoE +MOU3VxLWZn58xdPx8pCG2jM07ctzkC+7Ky2A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:09:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:09:32 +0000 (UTC) M9 hands down to the M9 however switching between fx and loop mode with the M9 requires getting used to it by pressing a couple of seconds before being able to loop right away,the m13 wins there i suppose that could be solved with a compact midi switch of some kind,but they are all too x pensive! Luis On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Sounds right to me Rainer, the M9 also has "scenes" btw. Also the M13 has > dedicated looper buttons I believe whereas the m9 you have to press and hold > a bit to switch from fx to looper controls. > > J > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rainer Straschill > wrote: >> >> With all that discussion, I'd like to see the differences between those >> three things they have right now. If I get it right: >> >> M13: >> four effects at once >> additional looper >> two exp pedal connectors >> stereo FX send/return >> complex scene logic >> big (and expensive) >> >> M9: >> three effects at once >> additional looper >> two exp pedal connectors >> medium size (and price) >> >> M5: >> one effect >> no looper >> one exp pedal connector >> small size (and price) >> >> Correct? >> >> From what I see, the M9 seems to be the way to go from these options... >> >> -- >> http://moinlabs.de >> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >> > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 11:41:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 974C1183460; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E9FkCwzDryveszsMUYmGlx5Sg6iDn1r/0w631reas7U=; b=ciEu61gj6zfSZ02pYgVvL7wO6TzH2i5lo1OPZhUG/AbrH83cmRZhFnIazb6JutsB71 ecaJApGvD2OXsMI8LwuHdpZTiURbc+Ykx+KlfbNNCW1+xMP5kOjRuAlhJ/s4WpNtdPl9 WPMObircte6zRy31NYJVOizZP9poknOG12Z84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Eu8iHtDV4bTV34ssn2P26uCyMpfBuhRTsaTV87VtPUDfrB4SGQHNINo243JqtBUCj1 uScF06bGza/cGyuwGpj6UL2mMM00RmQHgxNoJryaiLPVyDrYyY/br4Blk1CU09M4LC8T 7CKLTHLBNNgzwWtZTDCnI6MUNyr6NYjPc48uU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:41:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Yes man the Ethos is the best preamp ive tried so far going directly into the board! even better i run it through a little compact 60 watt AER acoustic guitar amp and then into the board man with my gretsch through those what a sound! and portable enough to take in the train,plus your back spine will smile again,thats why my 50 watt koch sits in my room ever since! i m with Bill,i think im done with the multi fx proccessors thing,is a bit tiresome having to travel through menus to tweak simple and essential things like EQs in patches, i ve had multi fx proccesors for years,my first one the korg A3 and then the the Roland GP100 which i kept ofr a long long time,the i finally updated to a GT 10 but recently i realized that it had been collecting dust and ive gone back to basics,one tone and fx,perhaps the fact that ive been playing acoustic guitar for a few years now has made me strip down. So i ended up selling my GT10 and right now im happy with a basic setup, the ethos preamp and the M9. On the software side i have to say though that im impressed with guitar rig,though ive always been hardware i actually like the guitar tones better than all of those hardware mulit fx proccessors, If i run it through the rme 400 and then directly into the board and setup the buffer size correctly i get no dramatic latency issues and it makes a great guitar amp emulator and proccessor, though ive still yet to try it live! Luis On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:55 AM, William Walker wr= ote: > As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, =A0I'm still stuck in hardware mo= de > and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, but there > are few hardware choices available that can do multiple loops and mine, = =A0the > LP-1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has been > discontinued. When the time comes for me to move to software I will still > continue to use a small hardware front end and smaller floor looper =A0as= both > a safety net and also because I still prefer analog, even solid state ove= r > =A0modeling for guitar tones. To wit, my Custom Tones =A0Ethos preamp off= ers a > scant two channels of guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channe= l > with an extra boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker > emulator output, =A0so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run > direct. Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have > played a few in my time. =A0Effects are another matter as i can really se= e > putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. Right now I > tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live =A0and honestly I like= the > fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and other effects are easy to > change on the fly, the frustration I have found with all in one > modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have tended to be when needing t= o > change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To much bass for the room? w= hat > are you going to do, tweak every preset you have created each time you mo= ve > to a new one? =A0i think the new modeling amp choices are much better tha= n > when I was using them , and they have addressed a number of these issues, > but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired= of > endless menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and > learning new platforms =A0is time not making music, and currently I'm mor= e > interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet have no= t > proved limiting. =A0So if I was making the leap, I think i'd keep as much > analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a combo of Abel= ton > =A0and Mobius, becaues cool people in the =A0know said so, and because Je= ff > Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , =A0and what ever cool plugs I c= ould > get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. =A0I'd start with s= ome > Expert Sleepers stuff, =A0because Os makes cool plugins, =A0 and I'd beco= me an > absolute pest to many of you on this list. > =A0Bill > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 11:50:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9870183460; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EKXbqz6Cf+A1R42DyE53IFA8UeFBJPcHuy0THLW90eQ=; b=wRBvtcgING8gJ/VbFN1ljEVOBKzL/cnJaYH/sUyglEFga3cIueR2vjyxCsLEVPqQ+d 1D8WhNBKlr7Fv+MbMFhyCfl8ey/3oX+zx2S0ImJHljp4EYaS0IebCxhy9bvU1S33Wn7i vo4QRhENjjMJ5sbxjSDbFkY2CyL5m98Tgp6Lg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iUexJX5g2Pv56+BCCEDUXw7xXmrjeiD6p28PlMbWDukGSYZxfqeQDqUMkvfae9obsa IpxSC57Zb/piaHI+crgxKS8qZ+R1xyvDBjAu6K8B/KMhJGUTYucVtkGiVZ0yup6mjy3M EkKH1c0cgkLaQdWpqu+POjDK5cW3khC/bqFvo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DFA5DAD.30508@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:50:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: long delay for mac From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:50:17 +0000 (UTC) wow that would be dreeeam come true if it really worx! On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > As you know Rick, I'm with you completely on the non-corporate, grassroot= s > sound mangling software/plugin development underground scene. > In fact I'm part of it! > The plugin converters you mentioned aren't cross platform unfortunately > BUT > smproaudio have released a windows/mac wrapper that I will be investigati= ng > today: > http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/34640/vfx-host-software > If it works, I'll report back. > > Peace > G > > > Gareth, Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > >> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:46:53 -0700 >> From: looppool@cruzio.com >> To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk >> CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: long delay for mac >> >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: >> > The choice of plugins seems minuscule compared to windows or am I just >> > looking in the wrong places? >> I've discussed this phenomenon many times here at L.D. >> >> When KVR had their KVR challenge (offering a few thousand dollars to the >> person who created the most >> inventive freeware audio effects plugin) hundreds were submitted and of >> the forty that were published, >> there were only two for OSX versus 36 for Windows (a couple for Linux, >> too, as I recall). >> >> >> This has been a constant in the Windows world for the past ten years. >> There's just a lot more freeware (and idiosyncratic) developement of >> effects plugins >> >> Personally, I look for the intense (and often quirky) creativity that >> come from young people's freeware plugins. >> The last KVR challenge winner made a plugin that simulates insect >> sounds..........lol! So, I'm more a >> fan of Windows. Also, for me, the presence of programs like FL >> Studio/Sony Vegas/Sony Sound Forge/Sony Acid >> and stand alone creative apps like Granulab and Tuareg (slicer program) >> that just aren't available for OS X keeps me there. >> >> There are also wonderful programs (very notably, Logic Pro) that aren't >> found on Windows and there's the whole >> aspect of potential viruses and mal and phisware that plague Windows >> (solution: don't use your audio system online!) >> but I just read an article that said that now that Apple has become the >> largest media company on earth that virus writers >> are starting to target Macs. Computer security problems are here to >> stay, I"m afraid. >> >> >> There are, of course, many advantages to using OS X as well, but I still >> run Windows (and even, archaicly, >> Win XP which is now 2 OSs old, because it works so well for my audio set >> up). >> >> Solutions? >> >> Use Bootcamp with a dual boot system; install Win XP Professional, >> Service Pack 2 or >> Win 7 and do your music editing on the Win XP side and import your files= . >> >> or stay with OS X and Use a VST wrapper with either AU or TDM plugin >> systems in your DAW. >> >> Good luck, Gareth. The Intel Macs (with their abilities to have >> dual boot systems) are, if very pricey, very wonderful >> (and this is said by someone who randomly seems to have bought a lemon >> MacBook Pro). >> > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 12:56:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A66FF183461; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=BBy5wKjw8RDDLOAVX+c2mfOtAsx3rSojdNSB9Ux64SI=; b=XENUeylwey5iG1F5rQUznXbVw+x9bXB7AaTL3bNDJCtjOtFzvPj2UtHibvUC286qzm lNwC1upnp60Z4XqUEIJevUwhRpI1IJHWsex7AZOnK1gIaQR4HCk0dNAbXJrcut/Aw69y +CUsAYyDik6WiWzDV7O6b213U55WotMrwf/9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Ch9XduYzF2qBvVyboa9i86cRPNQi2RHlCXjkwZMRMPClpb9TPX4gFz9MxDeORfbBLR FS0yQ7VrjI9nSZtDPYOyp2jSBVSYhzD7cX6DtJmufPDbC5iGxerYnglypvWOIwMWofRj AtSR02cX7Yj+4xp+JPEbhz4r6yFoosl420QSg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4DFCC3B6.50308@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> <4DFCC3B6.50308@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:56:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qFx6Uep6IuJCo4t-mGqbjPT_Smk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Adobe Audition To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba61358ad32fe904a610256c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:56:33 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba61358ad32fe904a610256c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What on earth do you mean by that Andy? Its sounds frighteningly clever! On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, andy butler wrote: > With the sample accurate alignment it's pretty much possible > to unmix the layers...given time and patience. > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba61358ad32fe904a610256c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What on earth do you mean by that Andy? Its sounds frighteningly clever!
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, andy butle= r <akbutler@= tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
With the sample accurate a= lignment it's pretty much possible
to unmix the layers...given time and patience.

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--90e6ba61358ad32fe904a610256c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 15:09:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25FD9183461; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=TG11apQfz+5xpDJWIAEkOVESNTK7LaUuxjFzqGxWrjQ=; b=jH4Va1dToKgWtMkC09aLB5SAG9F4N6Z3QRQafOaT0Z5lAC+YM3i6ECjXpUS58X0z3J Pnqyyz4k9k/y2MoHTCQDLXbl1HN3IzSim3CwZiL6qQZaTx10OSA76Im/gsen3yRpENc+ 69BH1IQ3/lZTUYc8ctadUQmaUvuBrko3K2Ork= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=Ip9KTPDVkpbTAcpHog0r9ybec+2s/xqfEDGJHSqsGeAZ4qzm44KxeDSgIuBn+sN86X 7XmzdQPlN37fsdGKHyeQZ9wTeEtAdBIkjJnjrMCJcbgAAT4OqcT2g1+iygpF6S7Hl4t2 AGd0yYYAfdozqqeJtAmgtfxwuBFml9iky1szU= Subject: Re: Curious about Abobe Audition References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> From: Fabio_A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <21732877-D3F0-4248-9140-FFDF4E626FD8@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:08:57 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Audition is more accurate for noise reduction and frequencies works and for w= orking in multitrack mode. Wawelab is a good tool, easy and fast. I use both for my mixing job. More in the past than today: me too I'm gettin= g a very crystal sound from the RME 400.=20 -f www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 19/giu/2011, alle ore 13:00, Louie Angulo ha scritto: > If u are hunting for a good audio editor dont forget Wavelab is also > available for mac now,i cannot compare it to audition though! > Luis >=20 > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Todd Matthews wrot= e: >> Awesome, I didn't realize it was for mac too. I'm going to download the t= rial now. >>=20 >> On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:12 AM, andy butler wrote: >>=20 >>> Per Boysen wrote: >>>> Yes, Cool Edit was kind of "the holy graal" for audio restoration >>>> under Window OS. Nice that it is still alive in Audition! >>>=20 >>> Audition now available for mac. >>>=20 >>> best toolbox a boy ever had :-) >>>=20 >>> andy >>>=20 >>=20 >> -------------------- >> Todd Matthews >> toddbass.com >> twitter: gtodd876 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 15:52:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ECBF183459; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bqjrmGvPebo5IEKNq9GTGV2L2b4NweonWNMhXUPghL8=; b=USQ0lcCWVmdkPKeqKvnaDQFBjlqRHyBn2JeiETnDZwCE/MbxJG32qdjeUQGmzfuFNJ BWY+ISFRVo5aljkDSy5eB6sQIPTgJOJf/1LRoUvZofT2Xl/V580MrJSVpg9BBTerocrZ EaAsDLSX5WqGOiJxJBRRgVTIN0JhTTq0rimDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=V+J6d6+pTzVa0VLpcoDTTNiJthk8JKhFHxv65uwDyKsX7arSiYGvV6KsODhZ3rEUO4 Xv1xi6/PH5T9nXUc2n+rZgj3bYH6eEzyksItM6GmBImVhI52nKFgJgYjTXh/c/WDL0Pd 72Yus382Yh6oYa59SoGeUIDQoVgqsVl0XpEJk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:52:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: the smallest midi controller is in your own pocket From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:52:17 +0000 (UTC) how about it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD9qub4fJWo -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:17:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 320CB183464; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Sound vs function References: From: richard sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <8C4EA42D-0F27-4A01-81FD-4E43FE8B917D@glasswing.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:18:14 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:17:17 +0000 (UTC) It's so hard to beat a well played guitar through a sonorous amp. All I use= for live now is a volume pedal, wah, Ethos, T Rex Replica and amp. No reve= rb. Let the hall itself do that! I haven't really tried the Ethos direct, but I've heard recordings of it tha= t sound great. For me, it's 400 of the best spent dollars ever and I've spe= nt a LOT of money over time.=20 I have a very old Ibanez UE400 multi effects device that I wish I could find= a foot controller for. It sounded GREAT! I know Dr No from Bad Brains use= d one too. That and the old Roland GR300 and blue floor module could summo= n the banshees. Having said all that, I've heard recordings from this list that I like that w= ere heavily effected by modern digital multi effects units. Often I discove= r it's a Eventide Orville or some very high powered device. I suspect that a= ny device run through a great singing amp will sound good. =20 The big issue is the A/D converters, too much dithering and all that stuff. = =20 Analogue summing really helps. =20 Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 19, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > Yes man the Ethos is the best preamp ive tried so far going directly > into the board! > even better i run it through a little compact 60 watt AER acoustic > guitar amp and then into the board man with my gretsch through those > what a sound! > and portable enough to take in the train,plus your back spine will > smile again,thats why my 50 watt koch sits in my room ever since! > i m with Bill,i think im done with the multi fx proccessors thing,is a > bit tiresome having to travel through menus to tweak simple and > essential things like EQs in patches, > i ve had multi fx proccesors for years,my first one the korg A3 and > then the the Roland GP100 which i kept ofr a long long time,the i > finally updated to a GT 10 > but recently i realized that it had been collecting dust and ive gone > back to basics,one tone and fx,perhaps the fact that ive been playing > acoustic guitar for a few years now has made me strip down. > So i ended up selling my GT10 and right now im happy with a basic > setup, the ethos preamp and the M9. > On the software side i have to say though that im impressed with > guitar rig,though ive always been hardware i actually like the guitar > tones better than all of those hardware mulit fx proccessors, > If i run it through the rme 400 and then directly into the board and > setup the buffer size correctly i get no dramatic latency issues and > it makes a great guitar amp emulator and proccessor, > though ive still yet to try it live! > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:55 AM, William Walker w= rote: >> As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck in hardware mode= >> and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, but there= >> are few hardware choices available that can do multiple loops and mine, t= he >> LP-1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has been >> discontinued. When the time comes for me to move to software I will still= >> continue to use a small hardware front end and smaller floor looper as b= oth >> a safety net and also because I still prefer analog, even solid state ove= r >> modeling for guitar tones. To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a= >> scant two channels of guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channe= l >> with an extra boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker= >> emulator output, so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run >> direct. Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have >> played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really see >> putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. Right now I= >> tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and honestly I like t= he >> fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and other effects are easy to >> change on the fly, the frustration I have found with all in one >> modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have tended to be when needing t= o >> change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To much bass for the room? w= hat >> are you going to do, tweak every preset you have created each time you mo= ve >> to a new one? i think the new modeling amp choices are much better than >> when I was using them , and they have addressed a number of these issues,= >> but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired= of >> endless menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and= >> learning new platforms is time not making music, and currently I'm more >> interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet have no= t >> proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think i'd keep as much >> analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a combo of Abel= ton >> and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said so, and because Jeff >> Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , and what ever cool plugs I cou= ld >> get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. I'd start with som= e >> Expert Sleepers stuff, because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd become a= n >> absolute pest to many of you on this list. >> Bill >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:17:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 328FF183489; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AJLVukKJhvVmxlG/6qr6z/IdSCFfvedIJ+92REGbhxo=; b=AVnfxzPGlti0mwZKRYMxEYuBiSoZ5L3hy14LIQrZrtV5EKIRz0Z0TCdcYgpmM9wHNS D+ta9qNmMKiTAnBIM7cOIff8F88nXQeXcyjTXBCvZ/NRQzPsaRuSUc/1+TctnXHoygkv +/0H/FV2xz937Rajd8XAUjz7x0/fiX6ldIUrs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ng/h79CHY6tDy3RWm9kdq/bLaIKy8ECaxKV9aQAHHbqYmS5woL8O7jJLiWiqfbQ8vw DMMr9aB/C+jTjyOLH+1OZqpCZJnMArMAGJWh+bXKVr7E5bDZbci/Bh6tYaLGysIibVPB Jk+WXzqImhL/dlcR6sFIy5cx3DOFGbwX+bJXE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:17:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the smallest midi controller is in your own pocket From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cff0de4a2a04a612f3a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:17:19 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cff0de4a2a04a612f3a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Brilliant! On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > how about it? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD9qub4fJWo > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > --20cf3071cff0de4a2a04a612f3a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brilliant!

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:52 = AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
how about it?

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnD9qub4fJWo

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--20cf3071cff0de4a2a04a612f3a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:22:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41F4A183459; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5qbdFfJgS4a4aw5Ds0NNv898P1AkdqEQ6DSfkyK06qI=; b=kWXAqj1rW9f9flZUw3J068JZ4uDmdN5Ec5K3o2Ilwvt/D0nWDRR7GVMX/6BZL/I4rx L/kfaux0YlH53EmiWakkJmwkdPxrS8NUTZ6zsTMOJh6g6BmBl/+5FQUuiagTgqnbgVfH Jf4OHnA1DNCCTYYhd/xu+HGocGX8vOjtA8DR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PROnaJeU4ZKbo/l3c/e7EfYReTYJ4A2QICPhiPCsFm8jXK9xxUX/Nf13yxOSMuk+wa t5kicsMND9YJ1ut4XRJb15iExtlZnxL7ezSZZ1V42tgq0bh9znTuQJJmcJ6fHGu6NTNC GCMBKGmc27Ahpmn1aNfeJiEVacy/952YqTa0E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:22:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the smallest midi controller is in your own pocket From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Where's the MAKE page for the board he's connecting from ... :D Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Brilliant! > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> how about it? >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD9qub4fJWo >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:29:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD65C183462; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: line6 m devices comparison (was re: portalooper) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:29:22 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20A88D32-FE32-4789-BAB7-FA1E739BB7DD@grubmah.com> References: <4DFB2AFD.5060409@cruzio.com> <011f01cc2d06$eecc4580$cc64d080$@michaelplishka.com> <4DFBB597.9070401@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:29:25 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 19, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > M9 hands down to the M9 > however switching between fx and loop mode with the M9 requires > getting used to it by pressing a couple of seconds before being able > to loop right away,the m13 wins there > i suppose that could be solved with a compact midi switch of some > kind,but they are all too x pensive! And by the time you buy the MIDI switch and find the pedal board space, = you are probably close to what an M13 would have required. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:41:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6919183463; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: KP3+FCB1010 vs. DD20+KP3 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:41:00 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0473A2D5-E3D1-49D8-868B-E9B57D904A7B@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <3PhB6B.A.S6F.fai_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:41:03 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Charlie M wrote: > My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i need a = delay pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and then = just use the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool = new delay pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just = the looper+FX patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more = batteries/power supplies to deal with.=20 I've similarly thought about the DD-20 as a nice little pedal that gets = good reviews as a looper though that said I gather most people loop with = it in long delay mode and it lacks a hold function. Still it could be a = good choice for building up a loop and then letting it fade away by = bypassing the effect but letting the loop play on. (Which actually is a = hold effect if you set feedback to 100% but then you have other issues = if you do want to evolve the loop...) The downside I have since realized to the simple looper + mangler is = that some of these pedals (DD-20, Line6 M9/13) won't let you mute the = input which means that the input signal is also getting mangled. That = can be addressed with still more pedals to do the appropriate routing, = but it starts to get pretty messy particularly if you want a stereo = signal flow. Still, based on reports elsewhere on this list, it seems = like one could have a lot of fun with two DD-20s plus a mangler of some = sort (e.g., KP3, SL-20, etc). Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:46:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8CFB183475; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ksks2LNT40IM+kf8KXbmRHafSsmCuZV/8pUMmG8MfQI=; b=x2F2YhBpZu29kt5N0GVSHIp+RoeOPsdZYXjnZAwoTbeq9hjGaAr2zik9wxD/Rjs7+o jKNP7o7087kqT3soFemUP9bQDXb9/ZJ6TzDFu0fl54fyrQIKggaLAaVsHW5c8hchBAiq lfP/sgQ07MlpwiZIDTv70bZ+YYa46v42++H4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=F0bMrahuBfZy5ts04g4BaACRMeinrYPr/ZWQ+aoXFptsHprkcg7GrL5aaT/PF4F4NF sFMiYWth8dKBDuIuDrDeJb6c3cNecn/ckYhSUEM5KUn3lljHh6LIIZ63c3vwPpxO/yYh tN5QT5UswgZxwT9xPMgMNQ1fyFFAaO2k5Riqo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0473A2D5-E3D1-49D8-868B-E9B57D904A7B@grubmah.com> References: <0473A2D5-E3D1-49D8-868B-E9B57D904A7B@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:46:32 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: KP3+FCB1010 vs. DD20+KP3 From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:46:35 +0000 (UTC) There are a number of folks on here whop can address the issue of using two DD-20's, either in serial or parallel. Given their availability on eBay, I'd highly recommend investigating their use in your application. It's been discussed here before, so you should be able to look through the archives, as well. And it's all about signal routing anyway... Good luck and best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Charlie M wrote: > >> My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i need a delay= pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and then just us= e the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool new delay = pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the looper+FX p= atches. The negative is more money to spend, and more batteries/power suppl= ies to deal with. > > I've similarly thought about the DD-20 as a nice little pedal that gets g= ood reviews as a looper though that said I gather most people loop with it = in long delay mode and it lacks a hold function. Still it could be a good c= hoice for building up a loop and then letting it fade away by bypassing the= effect but letting the loop play on. (Which actually is a hold effect if y= ou set feedback to 100% but then you have other issues if you do want to ev= olve the loop...) > > The downside I have since realized to the simple looper + mangler is that= some of these pedals (DD-20, Line6 M9/13) won't let you mute the input whi= ch means that the input signal is also getting mangled. That can be address= ed with still more pedals to do the appropriate routing, but it starts to g= et pretty messy particularly if you want a stereo signal flow. Still, based= on reports elsewhere on this list, it seems like one could have a lot of f= un with two DD-20s plus a mangler of some sort (e.g., KP3, SL-20, etc). > > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:47:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58DA61834A5; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lDANu7EzgBfGzUoYg0yD/jLR9BjkG0ZHNysFq9FCaAg=; b=buO39XEoNtoRGcW2fhUNjeI8d4L5RyG2kcWLs5gQoDVG/3Eq8BjCMfiyAiKQ5PplC9 fs8vRRxp9LAPmb1aVjpWtU3a7fp3dQQ/OUP9MbEfPzt0t+wz+ptUg3SvQcK0QpBzUiZH t0/f0SLK0b50ULcQNZABZ82aM2U/FGyEvmbdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q4YE2ylwCzRMGE0rM/XhKDhbFnr6qZP2b836APXYNa18x3Mg1jY7QtYxSBbEqhDwVm wVkqnNGuiEbZhpORZZxMPX9R0CLorPJAxH365IzcL0l4Caw6/tjCa0+ACRUQJjryi9/k dB0k9HKe/q3HvL8qY7vK2AX04i8AQ1OjMzTwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0473A2D5-E3D1-49D8-868B-E9B57D904A7B@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:46:58 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: KP3+FCB1010 vs. DD20+KP3 From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC) That would be *WHO can address ... http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Dennis Moser wr= ote: > There are a number of folks on here whop can address the issue of > using two DD-20's, either in serial or parallel. Given their > availability on eBay, I'd highly recommend investigating their use in > your application. It's been discussed here before, so you should be > able to look through the archives, as well. > > And it's all about signal routing anyway... > > Good luck and best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Charlie M wrote: >> >>> My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i need a dela= y pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and then just u= se the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool new delay= pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the looper+FX = patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more batteries/power supp= lies to deal with. >> >> I've similarly thought about the DD-20 as a nice little pedal that gets = good reviews as a looper though that said I gather most people loop with it= in long delay mode and it lacks a hold function. Still it could be a good = choice for building up a loop and then letting it fade away by bypassing th= e effect but letting the loop play on. (Which actually is a hold effect if = you set feedback to 100% but then you have other issues if you do want to e= volve the loop...) >> >> The downside I have since realized to the simple looper + mangler is tha= t some of these pedals (DD-20, Line6 M9/13) won't let you mute the input wh= ich means that the input signal is also getting mangled. That can be addres= sed with still more pedals to do the appropriate routing, but it starts to = get pretty messy particularly if you want a stereo signal flow. Still, base= d on reports elsewhere on this list, it seems like one could have a lot of = fun with two DD-20s plus a mangler of some sort (e.g., KP3, SL-20, etc). >> >> Mark >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:49:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E16A1834A6; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Sound vs function - refuting myself References: From: richard sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <85CF10C1-519C-4570-B84D-6E3B6C6FC320@glasswing.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:50:54 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:49:56 +0000 (UTC) WAIT! I just remembered! There is a lap steel sample on www.asherguitars.c= om by Steiner Gregertsen, "Heaven Only Knows" (Beach Boy's song) that sounds= tremendous. I wrote him and asked what amp he used and it was one of the L= ine amp modelers. It was just a modeling of a black face Fender. So it COU= LD be that if you don't use a ton of effects, if you don't push these boxes t= oo hard, overwhelm the buss with tons of stuff, they sound good.=20 I don't know. Never owned a multi effects gizmo other than the old Ibanex U= E400 and the Ensoniq DP/4. =20 Wise men say, "Never say never"! Now I'm eating my own crow! Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 19, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > Yes man the Ethos is the best preamp ive tried so far going directly > into the board! > even better i run it through a little compact 60 watt AER acoustic > guitar amp and then into the board man with my gretsch through those > what a sound! > and portable enough to take in the train,plus your back spine will > smile again,thats why my 50 watt koch sits in my room ever since! > i m with Bill,i think im done with the multi fx proccessors thing,is a > bit tiresome having to travel through menus to tweak simple and > essential things like EQs in patches, > i ve had multi fx proccesors for years,my first one the korg A3 and > then the the Roland GP100 which i kept ofr a long long time,the i > finally updated to a GT 10 > but recently i realized that it had been collecting dust and ive gone > back to basics,one tone and fx,perhaps the fact that ive been playing > acoustic guitar for a few years now has made me strip down. > So i ended up selling my GT10 and right now im happy with a basic > setup, the ethos preamp and the M9. > On the software side i have to say though that im impressed with > guitar rig,though ive always been hardware i actually like the guitar > tones better than all of those hardware mulit fx proccessors, > If i run it through the rme 400 and then directly into the board and > setup the buffer size correctly i get no dramatic latency issues and > it makes a great guitar amp emulator and proccessor, > though ive still yet to try it live! > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:55 AM, William Walker w= rote: >> As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck in hardware mode= >> and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, but there= >> are few hardware choices available that can do multiple loops and mine, t= he >> LP-1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has been >> discontinued. When the time comes for me to move to software I will still= >> continue to use a small hardware front end and smaller floor looper as b= oth >> a safety net and also because I still prefer analog, even solid state ove= r >> modeling for guitar tones. To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a= >> scant two channels of guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channe= l >> with an extra boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker= >> emulator output, so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run >> direct. Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have >> played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really see >> putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. Right now I= >> tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and honestly I like t= he >> fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and other effects are easy to >> change on the fly, the frustration I have found with all in one >> modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have tended to be when needing t= o >> change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To much bass for the room? w= hat >> are you going to do, tweak every preset you have created each time you mo= ve >> to a new one? i think the new modeling amp choices are much better than >> when I was using them , and they have addressed a number of these issues,= >> but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired= of >> endless menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and= >> learning new platforms is time not making music, and currently I'm more >> interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet have no= t >> proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think i'd keep as much >> analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a combo of Abel= ton >> and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said so, and because Jeff >> Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , and what ever cool plugs I cou= ld >> get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. I'd start with som= e >> Expert Sleepers stuff, because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd become a= n >> absolute pest to many of you on this list. >> Bill >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 16:57:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3EDE18349E; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XkFvXUqfmsVZrNVGSnL8KLDJU612i4/MtQ3vVnMWa3s=; b=HvFF0uzLH3A1nWwmgGsb+EnS446aH6AGfDFKrEoVvxYGqyZYw97ShJHQGC/1rShvqO 61UAGrbjYFD5o9WykZgeKljVtjHhtKwyGdgjWCTScpTXPBgeLVkHRLlIMuo20yDraqdx 0WzDKI/lLxKCRaOk5LeojWmmDhIR7pstPiQS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EWOTuaWOx+qfqsH8vC4/SSCLiUQr6N0emYqlz4C0V8J7TkyVrBTQQbWb9n08R10EdF Qlsw+ol2sA04Rpg4mutzWp0RfKjXuIoKOYd2HQLRzTil5BoPnzKNuvHjGvagW/iW9yUL cvWX5GJGQR9thI2w15hP8jK/d4rwkBVSDT0TA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85CF10C1-519C-4570-B84D-6E3B6C6FC320@glasswing.com> References: <85CF10C1-519C-4570-B84D-6E3B6C6FC320@glasswing.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:57:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sound vs function - refuting myself From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c449633f3c104a613846a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:57:41 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c449633f3c104a613846a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Apparently the guitar player for chris isaac used the pod as well, even on that legendary "wicked games" tone. Uh oh! On Jun 19, 2011 11:49 AM, "richard sales" wrote: > WAIT! I just remembered! There is a lap steel sample on www.asherguitars.com by Steiner Gregertsen, "Heaven Only Knows" (Beach Boy's song) that sounds tremendous. I wrote him and asked what amp he used and it was one of the Line amp modelers. It was just a modeling of a black face Fender. So it COULD be that if you don't use a ton of effects, if you don't push these boxes too hard, overwhelm the buss with tons of stuff, they sound good. > > I don't know. Never owned a multi effects gizmo other than the old Ibanex UE400 and the Ensoniq DP/4. > > Wise men say, "Never say never"! Now I'm eating my own crow! > > Richard Sales > Sent from my IPad > www.glasswing.com > > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Yes man the Ethos is the best preamp ive tried so far going directly >> into the board! >> even better i run it through a little compact 60 watt AER acoustic >> guitar amp and then into the board man with my gretsch through those >> what a sound! >> and portable enough to take in the train,plus your back spine will >> smile again,thats why my 50 watt koch sits in my room ever since! >> i m with Bill,i think im done with the multi fx proccessors thing,is a >> bit tiresome having to travel through menus to tweak simple and >> essential things like EQs in patches, >> i ve had multi fx proccesors for years,my first one the korg A3 and >> then the the Roland GP100 which i kept ofr a long long time,the i >> finally updated to a GT 10 >> but recently i realized that it had been collecting dust and ive gone >> back to basics,one tone and fx,perhaps the fact that ive been playing >> acoustic guitar for a few years now has made me strip down. >> So i ended up selling my GT10 and right now im happy with a basic >> setup, the ethos preamp and the M9. >> On the software side i have to say though that im impressed with >> guitar rig,though ive always been hardware i actually like the guitar >> tones better than all of those hardware mulit fx proccessors, >> If i run it through the rme 400 and then directly into the board and >> setup the buffer size correctly i get no dramatic latency issues and >> it makes a great guitar amp emulator and proccessor, >> though ive still yet to try it live! >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:55 AM, William Walker wrote: >>> As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck in hardware mode >>> and I'm able to do what you want with out involving a computer, but there >>> are few hardware choices available that can do multiple loops and mine, the >>> LP-1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has been >>> discontinued. When the time comes for me to move to software I will still >>> continue to use a small hardware front end and smaller floor looper as both >>> a safety net and also because I still prefer analog, even solid state over >>> modeling for guitar tones. To wit, my Custom Tones Ethos preamp offers a >>> scant two channels of guitar tone, essentially a clean and a dirty channel >>> with an extra boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excellent speaker >>> emulator output, so I can get great guitar tones even if I have to run >>> direct. Its like a dumble amp in a box, and I'm fortunate enough to have >>> played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can really see >>> putting a lap top to good use with both pre and post effects. Right now I >>> tend to have my effects pre loop when playing live and honestly I like the >>> fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and other effects are easy to >>> change on the fly, the frustration I have found with all in one >>> modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they have tended to be when needing to >>> change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To much bass for the room? what >>> are you going to do, tweak every preset you have created each time you move >>> to a new one? i think the new modeling amp choices are much better than >>> when I was using them , and they have addressed a number of these issues, >>> but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of >>> endless menus, and LCD screens. Time spent editing effects parameters and >>> learning new platforms is time not making music, and currently I'm more >>> interested in making music with the tools I have, which as of yet have not >>> proved limiting. So if I was making the leap, I think i'd keep as much >>> analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a combo of Abelton >>> and Mobius, becaues cool people in the know said so, and because Jeff >>> Larson has a dog almost as cute as mine , and what ever cool plugs I could >>> get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. I'd start with some >>> Expert Sleepers stuff, because Os makes cool plugins, and I'd become an >>> absolute pest to many of you on this list. >>> Bill >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > --0015174c449633f3c104a613846a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Apparently the guitar player for chris isaac used the pod as well, even = on that legendary "wicked games" tone.

Uh oh!

On Jun 19, 2011 11:49 AM, "richard sales&qu= ot; <richard@glasswing.com&= gt; wrote:
> WAIT! I just remembered! There is= a lap steel sample on www.ashergui= tars.com by Steiner Gregertsen, "Heaven Only Knows" (Beach Bo= y's song) that sounds tremendous. I wrote him and asked what amp he us= ed and it was one of the Line amp modelers. It was just a modeling of a bl= ack face Fender. So it COULD be that if you don't use a ton of effects= , if you don't push these boxes too hard, overwhelm the buss with tons = of stuff, they sound good.
>
> I don't know. Never owned a multi effects gizmo other th= an the old Ibanex UE400 and the Ensoniq DP/4.
>
> Wise men s= ay, "Never say never"! Now I'm eating my own crow!
> <= br> > Richard Sales
> Sent from my IPad
> www.glasswing.com
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2= 011, at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes man the Ethos is the best preamp ive tried so far goi= ng directly
>> into the board!
>> even better i run it th= rough a little compact 60 watt AER acoustic
>> guitar amp and then= into the board man with my gretsch through those
>> what a sound!
>> and portable enough to take in the train= ,plus your back spine will
>> smile again,thats why my 50 watt koc= h sits in my room ever since!
>> i m with Bill,i think im done wit= h the multi fx proccessors thing,is a
>> bit tiresome having to travel through menus to tweak simple and>> essential things like EQs in patches,
>> i ve had multi = fx proccesors for years,my first one the korg A3 and
>> then the t= he Roland GP100 which i kept ofr a long long time,the i
>> finally updated to a GT 10
>> but recently i realized tha= t it had been collecting dust and ive gone
>> back to basics,one t= one and fx,perhaps the fact that ive been playing
>> acoustic guit= ar for a few years now has made me strip down.
>> So i ended up selling my GT10 and right now im happy with a basic=
>> setup, the ethos preamp and the M9.
>> On the softwar= e side i have to say though that im impressed with
>> guitar rig,t= hough ive always been hardware i actually like the guitar
>> tones better than all of those hardware mulit fx proccessors,
&= gt;> If i run it through the rme 400 and then directly into the board an= d
>> setup the buffer size correctly i get no dramatic latency iss= ues and
>> it makes a great guitar amp emulator and proccessor,
>> t= hough ive still yet to try it live!
>> Luis
>>
>&g= t;
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri,= Jun 17, 2011 at 4:55 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
>>> As a fellow tone snob I feel your pain, I'm still stuck i= n hardware mode
>>> and I'm able to do what you want with o= ut involving a computer, but there
>>> are few hardware choices= available that can do multiple loops and mine, the
>>> LP-1 is currently out of production and the roland rc 50 has b= een
>>> discontinued. When the time comes for me to move to sof= tware I will still
>>> continue to use a small hardware front e= nd and smaller floor looper as both
>>> a safety net and also because I still prefer analog, even soli= d state over
>>> modeling for guitar tones. To wit, my Custom = Tones Ethos preamp offers a
>>> scant two channels of guitar t= one, essentially a clean and a dirty channel
>>> with an extra boost on the dirty channel, but it has an excell= ent speaker
>>> emulator output, so I can get great guitar ton= es even if I have to run
>>> direct. Its like a dumble amp in a= box, and I'm fortunate enough to have
>>> played a few in my time. Effects are another matter as i can = really see
>>> putting a lap top to good use with both pre and = post effects. Right now I
>>> tend to have my effects pre loop = when playing live and honestly I like the
>>> fact that my ethos and M-9 and timefactor and other effects ar= e easy to
>>> change on the fly, the frustration I have found w= ith all in one
>>> modeling/effects amps is how clumsy they hav= e tended to be when needing to
>>> change eq and parameter settings on the fly. To much bass for = the room? what
>>> are you going to do, tweak every preset you = have created each time you move
>>> to a new one? i think the = new modeling amp choices are much better than
>>> when I was using them , and they have addressed a number of th= ese issues,
>>> but they still feel and sound a bit flat to my = ears. Plus I'm a bit tired of
>>> endless menus, and LCD sc= reens. Time spent editing effects parameters and
>>> learning new platforms is time not making music, and currentl= y I'm more
>>> interested in making music with the tools I = have, which as of yet have not
>>> proved limiting. So if I wa= s making the leap, I think i'd keep as much
>>> analog front end as possible, but keep it simple, and use a co= mbo of Abelton
>>> and Mobius, becaues cool people in the kno= w said so, and because Jeff
>>> Larson has a dog almost as cute= as mine , and what ever cool plugs I could
>>> get my hands on, I would start to integrate...slowly. I'd= start with some
>>> Expert Sleepers stuff, because Os makes c= ool plugins, and I'd become an
>>> absolute pest to many = of you on this list.
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
>&g= t;
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>
--0015174c449633f3c104a613846a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 17:13:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DE3A183466; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HOr4IXaFoTkrp+7wM69ym5l+MAwaZfNzoxwhxt+NyGg=; b=h0QvlcA54nGNFRz2IFguYCWuzsBYo6vMidYSl+a/6dqUdpEbA8lLWSGXbEeBX7T5DI KLilEokG46l/d0adfll/oCLbadVWVDjcm4WatU/Xe1v7cdCMfRWFU11WjqDypwDL5Uus 9jYmPxB+MH23KmNDm3leabA026y+DbiyU9PiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TS7kMiuRGA0muKN5dwwG00x5GBwTyIKZHJ7pEFQP/Eep1ujnIPIS1ufR0VaYPM8mzC dip7ddrNvZQ8DAM41QLXGo8TULp+FR362bgtu1qS/VVGWSk4lm/mAdYfoQugkIoG3TE5 f+wxEwjEVJ1R0KAZYDfqM8bk/64lNKB8D3EIc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0473A2D5-E3D1-49D8-868B-E9B57D904A7B@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: KP3+FCB1010 vs. DD20+KP3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f367e0b073b04a613bb64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:13:01 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f367e0b073b04a613bb64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Right and if you haven't seen it, this is a good starter. http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20.html peace, jeff On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > There are a number of folks on here whop can address the issue of > using two DD-20's, either in serial or parallel. Given their > availability on eBay, I'd highly recommend investigating their use in > your application. It's been discussed here before, so you should be > able to look through the archives, as well. > > And it's all about signal routing anyway... > > Good luck and best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Charlie M wrote: > > > >> My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i need a delay > pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and then just use > the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool new delay > pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the looper+FX > patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more batteries/power > supplies to deal with. > > > > I've similarly thought about the DD-20 as a nice little pedal that gets > good reviews as a looper though that said I gather most people loop with it > in long delay mode and it lacks a hold function. Still it could be a good > choice for building up a loop and then letting it fade away by bypassing the > effect but letting the loop play on. (Which actually is a hold effect if you > set feedback to 100% but then you have other issues if you do want to evolve > the loop...) > > > > The downside I have since realized to the simple looper + mangler is that > some of these pedals (DD-20, Line6 M9/13) won't let you mute the input which > means that the input signal is also getting mangled. That can be addressed > with still more pedals to do the appropriate routing, but it starts to get > pretty messy particularly if you want a stereo signal flow. Still, based on > reports elsewhere on this list, it seems like one could have a lot of fun > with two DD-20s plus a mangler of some sort (e.g., KP3, SL-20, etc). > > > > Mark > > > > > > --20cf307f367e0b073b04a613bb64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right and if you haven't seen it, this is a good starter. http://www.loope= rs-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20.html

peace,

jeff
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Dennis Mos= er <sinsofm= achaut@gmail.com> wrote:
There are a number of folks on here whop can address the issue of
using two DD-20's, either in serial or parallel. Given their
availability on eBay, I'd highly recommend investigating their use in your application. It's been discussed here before, so you should be
able to look through the archives, as well.

And it's all about signal routing anyway...

Good luck and best,

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Charlie M wrote:
>
>> My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i need a= delay pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and then j= ust use the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool new = delay pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the loope= r+FX patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more batteries/power= supplies to deal with.
>
> I've similarly thought about the DD-20 as a nice little pedal that= gets good reviews as a looper though that said I gather most people loop w= ith it in long delay mode and it lacks a hold function. Still it could be a= good choice for building up a loop and then letting it fade away by bypass= ing the effect but letting the loop play on. (Which actually is a hold effe= ct if you set feedback to 100% but then you have other issues if you do wan= t to evolve the loop...)
>
> The downside I have since realized to the simple looper + mangler is t= hat some of these pedals (DD-20, Line6 M9/13) won't let you mute the in= put which means that the input signal is also getting mangled. That can be = addressed with still more pedals to do the appropriate routing, but it star= ts to get pretty messy particularly if you want a stereo signal flow. Still= , based on reports elsewhere on this list, it seems like one could have a l= ot of fun with two DD-20s plus a mangler of some sort (e.g., KP3, SL-20, et= c).
>
> Mark
>
>


--20cf307f367e0b073b04a613bb64-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 17:13:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7450183465; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=qqHCUX83Va/VYbOQVcidVvWjHA2huSEIAHBy1a/drNk=; b=kR5Sdpirs3Ar+FRINbyXg5Zv61qTNKT7opP+eywGNsdpzfFUhn7HRaeGLpuWuRotK+ 1ODUAxgMI6BX2kN5T50SyUfCWDKIj8Lm7RVf6hr7P5+E2Wl8JfQQWWPiwrTKQKSEGmAe HGloK2eKaMua5WSfbOp5UZWMPt807Nx/zGoPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=e3bOr+feF4P43gqZQW68nMPmDSFI0We6n7jvInJhDbNyi1qJ+EHPA6DxnWwFeXO58V faUInb+W6AEWz79rkGTtZSC/2OnORvzhDrycj71F3WR4ijstdQsM+xkmk60oMND6LlOD ybQ+sJajrEs7LVSOHCmREnVOvqLzFD5Q0wMGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0473A2D5-E3D1-49D8-868B-E9B57D904A7B@grubmah.com> From: Charlie M Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:13:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: KP3+FCB1010 vs. DD20+KP3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530ec4fd0f7304a613bcfe Resent-Message-ID: <7Un1ZC.A.J8G.94i_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:13:33 +0000 (UTC) --002354530ec4fd0f7304a613bcfe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All good advice--i guess the main question I am asking is if I should use the KP3's looper function or should I use a separate looper to put in front of the KP3? I want to mangle the sound, and the KP3 seems like the tool I want, but it kinda seems like I am missing out on a lot of what the KP3 can do if I just use it for the looper. Charlie On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > That would be *WHO can address ... > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Dennis Moser > wrote: > > There are a number of folks on here whop can address the issue of > > using two DD-20's, either in serial or parallel. Given their > > availability on eBay, I'd highly recommend investigating their use in > > your application. It's been discussed here before, so you should be > > able to look through the archives, as well. > > > > And it's all about signal routing anyway... > > > > Good luck and best, > > > > Dennis > > > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > > http://audiozoloft.com > > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >> On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Charlie M wrote: > >> > >>> My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i need a > delay pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and then > just use the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool new > delay pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the > looper+FX patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more > batteries/power supplies to deal with. > >> > >> I've similarly thought about the DD-20 as a nice little pedal that gets > good reviews as a looper though that said I gather most people loop with it > in long delay mode and it lacks a hold function. Still it could be a good > choice for building up a loop and then letting it fade away by bypassing the > effect but letting the loop play on. (Which actually is a hold effect if you > set feedback to 100% but then you have other issues if you do want to evolve > the loop...) > >> > >> The downside I have since realized to the simple looper + mangler is > that some of these pedals (DD-20, Line6 M9/13) won't let you mute the input > which means that the input signal is also getting mangled. That can be > addressed with still more pedals to do the appropriate routing, but it > starts to get pretty messy particularly if you want a stereo signal flow. > Still, based on reports elsewhere on this list, it seems like one could have > a lot of fun with two DD-20s plus a mangler of some sort (e.g., KP3, SL-20, > etc). > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> > > > > --002354530ec4fd0f7304a613bcfe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All good advice--i guess the main question I am asking is if I should use t= he KP3's looper function or should I use a separate looper to put in fr= ont of the KP3? I want to mangle the sound, and the KP3 seems like the tool= I want, but it kinda seems like I am missing out on a lot of what the KP3 = can do if I just use it for the looper.=A0


Charlie

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
That would be *WHO can address ...

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, D= ennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gm= ail.com> wrote:
> There are a number of folks on here whop can address the issue of
> using two DD-20's, either in serial or parallel. Given their
> availability on eBay, I'd highly recommend investigating their use= in
> your application. It's been discussed here before, so you should b= e
> able to look through the archives, as well.
>
> And it's all about signal routing anyway...
>
> Good luck and best,
>
> Dennis
>
> http://sou= ndcloud.com/usrsbin
> http://audiozolof= t.com
> http://u= srslashsbin.angrek.com/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Charlie M wrote:
>>
>>> My other thought was to just get a looper, like the DD20 (i ne= ed a delay pedal anyways) and use it for the start/stopping of loops and th= en just use the KP3 to mangle. two positives of this is that I have a cool = new delay pedal, and also I can use all the KP3 effects, and not just the l= ooper+FX patches. The negative is more money to spend, and more batteries/p= ower supplies to deal with.
>>
>> I've similarly thought about the DD-20 as a nice little pedal = that gets good reviews as a looper though that said I gather most people lo= op with it in long delay mode and it lacks a hold function. Still it could = be a good choice for building up a loop and then letting it fade away by by= passing the effect but letting the loop play on. (Which actually is a hold = effect if you set feedback to 100% but then you have other issues if you do= want to evolve the loop...)
>>
>> The downside I have since realized to the simple looper + mangler = is that some of these pedals (DD-20, Line6 M9/13) won't let you mute th= e input which means that the input signal is also getting mangled. That can= be addressed with still more pedals to do the appropriate routing, but it = starts to get pretty messy particularly if you want a stereo signal flow. S= till, based on reports elsewhere on this list, it seems like one could have= a lot of fun with two DD-20s plus a mangler of some sort (e.g., KP3, SL-20= , etc).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>


--002354530ec4fd0f7304a613bcfe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 17:47:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 173481834AB; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1E4821E2-752C-4F4F-B644-3D91048ECC23@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Sound vs function Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:47:46 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Too bad I don't get a kick back from Custom Tones for all of the recommending of the Ethos pedal I do. Well thats not entirely true, he did do me a solid by getting me one quickly in time for the NAMM show two years ago. I believe its at least a year wait on those right now, maybe two. But i second Richards remarks, best $400 I ever spent, on a stomp box, as it really is a complete two channel preamp. Mark Hamburg brought up the point of there being no way to check from one effects block to the next if there is internal clipping on the M series stuff and I would venture to believe this is a common problem in most multi effects of this type, particularly if you are doing like Mark is doing ( and myself for that matter) which is running gain and distortion pedals at the front of your change. Add to that highly dynamic effects like filters and its easy to get clipping without seeing where it is coming from. I would imagine running a keyboard which has an even more powerful output signal than most guitars, would be even more susceptible to this kind of clipping. This may be a function of cheaper A/D converters but even my timefactor which I believe has superior headroom and A/D converters (at least it sounds that way to me) can start to self clip if you push the feedback to self oscillation. What I've noticed about the M-5 is because its only one effect at a time it seems less likely to self clip. I think many of us have gotten in to the effects Jambalaya mode of sound creation where we create our sounds out of increasingly complex combinations of effects. Nothing wrong with this for sure but its also really valid to strip back ones choices, from time to time and often times the leaner sounds work best, and provide contrast with the more complex combinations. My current loop rig goes like this, keeley compressor, ethos preamp, Line 6 M-5, Eventide time factor, Dtar preamp, Tc fireworx, or g sharp or nova reverb running in the Dtars insets and looperlative running in the Dtar's effects loop. I can either leave the rig in mono, or use both individual xlr outs from the Dtar and run the Looperlatives outputs separately to there own channel strips for a big stereo spread. This rig gives me flexibility for both acoustic and electric guitars, and to move from electric to acoustic is simply a matter of bypassing the ethos. Though I have a lot of choices usually its just some kind of delay a bit of verb, compression , and different flavors of clean and dirty. The M-5 is there for specialty effects and anything else beyond my basic food group needs, I have a lot of choices , but not so many as to be a distraction. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 17:54:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF1A91834B2; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:53:55 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110619175355.139100@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> <4DFCC3B6.50308@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Curious about Adobe Audition To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Po48abv0PL8Mns8Sd0bstu2eoGS9kXjhlW9eX/8 hqoDUAONRok+9My7Oo9+oAlUm/7MbpZ1ODow== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 5HO0Ch5Ra2AoR80tzHUyymg6OWhhake7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys I was considering Adobe Audition for batch processing, i.e. 100 audio files that need the same processing (normalize, eq, noise filter...). Is there a cheaper/freeware alternative for this (Audacity) on Windows? Can Logic do this (on Mac)? thanks Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 18:35:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12617183473; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YNL2oAi0ZfOQkJtwBRNxDyo43jtCMheO1FWUJMMH7Mc=; b=xdChqA/jSSL1Kky+/Ksp1K1+LkDxNnHo5dyF7a5C8jAAKCV0YIN75YOLPOjN6V+ZAT GARSSwEgITzfwevB8YzVUunVq2n7fCni9oj5OnuxTeZXpBBhrNHG/XQOReKM0v6FQiGN fWZLDpjxKe8AWyhVbrPxgsF49LJw/1nld/x2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MYmOaQu7shfrwIEl8oYJKyYrsmfKr/VuWCGOcdr+YoZQliRub0DyG+Pb80jxLg0B9v agKz87JYDl533a9+yEzNNfSxzfth2uDuepn3XOm57n20UrtXDTZl+GTag08QPyACgENV 5miX7quJ7Q/g3xlZXfBbGBvIpjC/E7WZ/ia0A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110619175355.139100@gmx.net> References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> <4DFCC3B6.50308@tiscali.co.uk> <20110619175355.139100@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:35:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Adobe Audition From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cc62285fca04a614e3ad Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:35:48 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cc62285fca04a614e3ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I haven't used this feature but plan to give it a shot soon. http://manual.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Batch_Processing http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/features-1.3-g.php best, jeff On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi guys > > I was considering Adobe Audition for batch processing, i.e. 100 audio files > that need the same processing (normalize, eq, noise filter...). > > Is there a cheaper/freeware alternative for this (Audacity) on Windows? > Can Logic do this (on Mac)? > > thanks > Buzap > > -- > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > > --20cf3071cc62285fca04a614e3ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't used this feature but plan to give it a shot soon.

= http://manual.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=3DBatch_Processing
h= ttp://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/features-1.3-g.php

best,

jeff

On Sun, Jun 19, 201= 1 at 1:53 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
Hi guys

I was considering Adobe Audition for batch processing, i.e. 100 audio files= that need the same processing (normalize, eq, noise filter...).

Is there a cheaper/freeware alternative for this (Audacity) on Windows?
Can Logic do this (on Mac)?

thanks
Buzap

--
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--20cf3071cc62285fca04a614e3ad-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 18:53:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A342183473; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=+DiZF47cChlGG3TwbyPCUvP/pbLrMJgXHasEDKbXSsI=; b=t18g/LqWRJJYdMdN6+9/l8t5UeRzm3cln4TXw3AjnzfS9/S3UMLnD1b41aVhKrb/PA AmME2PI9au5xRYt0mg8kp9TpVUeNtE013E4965WggbrcJLuXQmduNN3d1UdYgsJ1o06D a8N1sh/YyXf1lW188RWTIQUzxRgLCz7upVuIY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=QdCHFLWQjPStljFnq9BuBuvd2pxuCvF4CPcVbcm1bXIcugnBzSIUK3KpmnFO77T0+L kb7dQ7lzKN+k0NIcS3lnTIvTadD1QQpU/1U20JDE/1SChWgAZTALCG8nTK7J5qtHynDR osrIIRnIiw2zebcCCUI/Hzx7Dkp+np32DkDqw= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--510080862 Subject: Re: Sound vs function Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:53:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: <1E4821E2-752C-4F4F-B644-3D91048ECC23@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1E4821E2-752C-4F4F-B644-3D91048ECC23@baymoon.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:53:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--510080862 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Email from custom tones this morning (thanks to WIlliam Walker's = endoresment ;) --- "We will contact you when your Ethos is ready--the estimated ship date = is May-July 2013." Heehee... Maybe it's one guy in a garage, but it's also epic mythmaking = - love it :) The upside is that by July 2013 I should have nickels = enough set aside to pay for it :) Phil :) On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:47 AM, William Walker wrote: > Too bad I don't get a kick back from Custom Tones for all of the = recommending of the Ethos pedal I do. Well thats not entirely true, he = did do me a solid by getting me one quickly in time for the NAMM show = two years ago. I believe its at least a year wait on those right now, = maybe two. But i second Richards remarks, best $400 I ever spent, on a = stomp box, as it really is a complete two channel preamp. Mark Hamburg = brought up the point of there being no way to check from one effects = block to the next if there is internal clipping on the M series stuff = and I would venture to believe this is a common problem in most multi = effects of this type, particularly if you are doing like Mark is doing ( = and myself for that matter) which is running gain and distortion pedals = at the front of your change. Add to that highly dynamic effects like = filters and its easy to get clipping without seeing where it is coming = from. I would imagine running a keyboard which has an even more powerful = output signal than most guitars, would be even more susceptible to this = kind of clipping. This may be a function of cheaper A/D converters but = even my timefactor which I believe has superior headroom and A/D = converters (at least it sounds that way to me) can start to self clip if = you push the feedback to self oscillation. What I've noticed about the = M-5 is because its only one effect at a time it seems less likely to = self clip. I think many of us have gotten in to the effects Jambalaya = mode of sound creation where we create our sounds out of increasingly = complex combinations of effects. Nothing wrong with this for sure but = its also really valid to strip back ones choices, from time to time and = often times the leaner sounds work best, and provide contrast with the = more complex combinations. My current loop rig goes like this, keeley = compressor, ethos preamp, Line 6 M-5, Eventide time factor, Dtar preamp, = Tc fireworx, or g sharp or nova reverb running in the Dtars insets = and looperlative running in the Dtar's effects loop. I can either leave = the rig in mono, or use both individual xlr outs from the Dtar and run = the Looperlatives outputs separately to there own channel strips for a = big stereo spread. This rig gives me flexibility for both acoustic and = electric guitars, and to move from electric to acoustic is simply a = matter of bypassing the ethos. Though I have a lot of choices usually = its just some kind of delay a bit of verb, compression , and different = flavors of clean and dirty. The M-5 is there for specialty effects and = anything else beyond my basic food group needs, I have a lot of choices = , but not so many as to be a distraction. > Bill >=20 --Apple-Mail-2--510080862 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Email = from custom tones this morning (thanks to WIlliam Walker's endoresment = ;) ---

"We will contact you = when your Ethos is ready--the estimated ship date is May-July = 2013."

Heehee... Maybe it's one guy in a garage, but = it's also epic mythmaking - love it :) The upside is that by July 2013 I = should have nickels enough set aside to pay for it = :)

Phil = :)


On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:47 AM, William = Walker wrote:

  Too bad I don't get a kick back from = Custom Tones for all of the recommending of the Ethos pedal I do. Well = thats not entirely true, he did do me a solid by getting me one quickly = in time for the NAMM show two years ago. I believe its at least a year = wait on those right now, maybe two.  But i second Richards remarks, = best $400 I ever spent, on a stomp box, as it really is a complete two = channel preamp.  Mark Hamburg brought up the point of there being = no way to check from one effects block to the next if there is internal = clipping on the M series stuff and I would venture to believe this is a = common problem in most multi effects of this type, particularly if you = are doing like Mark is doing ( and myself for that matter) which is = running gain and distortion pedals at the front of your change. Add to = that highly dynamic effects like filters and its easy to get clipping = without seeing where it is coming from. I would imagine running a = keyboard which has an even more powerful output signal than most = guitars,  would be even more susceptible to this kind of clipping. = This may be a function of cheaper A/D converters but even my timefactor = which I believe has superior headroom and A/D converters (at least it = sounds that way to me) can start to self clip if you push the feedback = to self oscillation. What I've noticed about the M-5 is because its only = one effect at a time it seems less likely to self clip.  I think = many of us have gotten in to the effects Jambalaya mode of sound = creation where we create our sounds out of increasingly complex = combinations of effects.  Nothing wrong with this for sure but its = also really valid to strip back ones choices, from time to time and = often times the leaner sounds work best, and provide contrast with the = more complex combinations. My current loop rig goes like this, keeley = compressor, ethos preamp, Line 6 M-5, Eventide time factor, Dtar preamp, =   Tc fireworx, or g sharp or nova reverb running  in the = Dtars insets and looperlative running in the Dtar's effects loop. I can = either leave the rig in mono, or use both individual xlr outs from the = Dtar and run the Looperlatives outputs separately to there own channel = strips for a big stereo spread. This rig gives me flexibility for both = acoustic and electric guitars, and to move from electric to acoustic is = simply a matter of bypassing the ethos.  Though I have a lot of = choices usually its just some kind of delay a bit of verb, compression , = and different flavors of clean and dirty. The M-5 is there for specialty = effects and anything else beyond my basic food group needs, I have a lot = of choices , but not so many as to be a = distraction.
Bill


= --Apple-Mail-2--510080862-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 19:17:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27DB8183463; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Sound vs function References: <1E4821E2-752C-4F4F-B644-3D91048ECC23@baymoon.com> From: richard sales Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-59--508582594 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:18:17 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:17:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-59--508582594 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It might take you a bit of fiddling to get the hang of it but once you do yo= u will be VERY happy. You might not be at first because it's not plug and p= lay. It's not real hard, just takes a bit to find the sweet spot for differ= ent instruments. But... that sweet spot is SO SWEET! There are a lot of options on it which can be daunting. But they're quite p= owerful. =20 I think it's one guy in a garage. Similar to AnalogMan. For my money, Etho= s is more usable than my fully tweaked sunface AnalogMan King Of Tone... and= both were expensive. Both can impose long wait times.=20 I would imagine one man (or very small) outfits like Rob and AnalogMan lose b= usiness due to the wait time. =20 If you have a big gig or record coming up they will, when possible, move you= to the front of the line. Happy motoring! Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 19, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Phil Clevenger wrot= e: > Email from custom tones this morning (thanks to WIlliam Walker's endoresme= nt ;) --- >=20 > "We will contact you when your Ethos is ready--the estimated ship date is M= ay-July 2013." >=20 > Heehee... Maybe it's one guy in a garage, but it's also epic mythmaking - l= ove it :) The upside is that by July 2013 I should have nickels enough set a= side to pay for it :) >=20 > Phil :) >=20 >=20 > On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:47 AM, William Walker wrote: >=20 >> Too bad I don't get a kick back from Custom Tones for all of the recomm= ending of the Ethos pedal I do. Well thats not entirely true, he did do me a= solid by getting me one quickly in time for the NAMM show two years ago. I b= elieve its at least a year wait on those right now, maybe two. But i second= Richards remarks, best $400 I ever spent, on a stomp box, as it really is a= complete two channel preamp. Mark Hamburg brought up the point of there be= ing no way to check from one effects block to the next if there is internal c= lipping on the M series stuff and I would venture to believe this is a commo= n problem in most multi effects of this type, particularly if you are doing l= ike Mark is doing ( and myself for that matter) which is running gain and di= stortion pedals at the front of your change. Add to that highly dynamic effe= cts like filters and its easy to get clipping without seeing where it is com= ing from. I would imagine running a keyboard which has an even more powerful= output signal than most guitars, would be even more susceptible to this ki= nd of clipping. This may be a function of cheaper A/D converters but even my= timefactor which I believe has superior headroom and A/D converters (at lea= st it sounds that way to me) can start to self clip if you push the feedback= to self oscillation. What I've noticed about the M-5 is because its only on= e effect at a time it seems less likely to self clip. I think many of us ha= ve gotten in to the effects Jambalaya mode of sound creation where we create= our sounds out of increasingly complex combinations of effects. Nothing wr= ong with this for sure but its also really valid to strip back ones choices,= from time to time and often times the leaner sounds work best, and provide c= ontrast with the more complex combinations. My current loop rig goes like th= is, keeley compressor, ethos preamp, Line 6 M-5, Eventide time factor, Dtar p= reamp, Tc fireworx, or g sharp or nova reverb running in the Dtars insets= and looperlative running in the Dtar's effects loop. I can either leave the= rig in mono, or use both individual xlr outs from the Dtar and run the Loop= erlatives outputs separately to there own channel strips for a big stereo sp= read. This rig gives me flexibility for both acoustic and electric guitars, a= nd to move from electric to acoustic is simply a matter of bypassing the eth= os. Though I have a lot of choices usually its just some kind of delay a bi= t of verb, compression , and different flavors of clean and dirty. The M-5 i= s there for specialty effects and anything else beyond my basic food group n= eeds, I have a lot of choices , but not so many as to be a distraction. >> Bill >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-59--508582594 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
It might take you a bit of fiddling to g= et the hang of it but once you do you will be VERY happy.  You might no= t be at first because it's not plug and play.  It's not real hard, just= takes a bit to find the sweet spot for different instruments.  But... t= hat sweet spot is SO SWEET!

There are a lot of opti= ons on it which can be daunting.  But they're quite powerful.  

I think it's one guy in a garage.  Similar to An= alogMan.  For my money, Ethos is more usable than my fully tweaked sunf= ace AnalogMan King Of Tone... and both were expensive.  Both can impose= long wait times. 

I would imagine one man (or very s= mall) outfits like Rob and AnalogMan lose business due to the wait time. &nb= sp;

If you have a big gig or record coming up they w= ill, when possible, move you to the front of the line.

<= div>Happy motoring!

Richard Sales
Sent from my IPad
<= div>www.glasswing.com

On Jun 19, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrot= e:

Email from custom t= ones this morning (thanks to WIlliam Walker's endoresment ;) ---

"We will contact you when your Ethos is ready--the estimated s= hip date is May-July 2013."

Heehee... Maybe it's one guy in a garage, but it's also epic myth= making - love it :) The upside is that by July 2013 I should have nickels en= ough set aside to pay for it :)

Phil :)


On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:47 A= M, William Walker wrote:

  Too bad I don't get a kick back from C= ustom Tones for all of the recommending of the Ethos pedal I do. Well thats n= ot entirely true, he did do me a solid by getting me one quickly in time for= the NAMM show two years ago. I believe its at least a year wait on those ri= ght now, maybe two.  But i second Richards remarks, best $400 I ever sp= ent, on a stomp box, as it really is a complete two channel preamp.  Ma= rk Hamburg brought up the point of there being no way to check from one effe= cts block to the next if there is internal clipping on the M series stuff an= d I would venture to believe this is a common problem in most multi effects o= f this type, particularly if you are doing like Mark is doing ( and myself f= or that matter) which is running gain and distortion pedals at the front of y= our change. Add to that highly dynamic effects like filters and its easy to g= et clipping without seeing where it is coming from. I would imagine running a= keyboard which has an even more powerful output signal than most guitars, &= nbsp;would be even more susceptible to this kind of clipping. This may be a f= unction of cheaper A/D converters but even my timefactor which I believe has= superior headroom and A/D converters (at least it sounds that way to me) ca= n start to self clip if you push the feedback to self oscillation. What I've= noticed about the M-5 is because its only one effect at a time it seems les= s likely to self clip.  I think many of us have gotten in to the effect= s Jambalaya mode of sound creation where we create our sounds out of increas= ingly complex combinations of effects.  Nothing wrong with this for sur= e but its also really valid to strip back ones choices, from time to time an= d often times the leaner sounds work best, and provide contrast with the mor= e complex combinations. My current loop rig goes like this, keeley compresso= r, ethos preamp, Line 6 M-5, Eventide time factor, Dtar preamp,   = Tc fireworx, or g sharp or nova reverb running  in the Dtars insets and= looperlative running in the Dtar's effects loop. I can either leave the rig= in mono, or use both individual xlr outs from the Dtar and run the Looperla= tives outputs separately to there own channel strips for a big stereo spread= . This rig gives me flexibility for both acoustic and electric guitars, and t= o move from electric to acoustic is simply a matter of bypassing the ethos. &= nbsp;Though I have a lot of choices usually its just some kind of delay a bi= t of verb, compression , and different flavors of clean and dirty. The M-5 i= s there for specialty effects and anything else beyond my basic food group n= eeds, I have a lot of choices , but not so many as to be a distraction.
B= ill


= --Apple-Mail-59--508582594-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 19:31:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C783183462; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6QdT1eo90pJKZcXRAPjLYAYBp9WD51eVZ15oBGD/esE=; b=kqBswlAxWnXrfv8ZKuc5HuO/8eHmHZCglXQOtG3ox3f4DKBNEwk49DyaUX4rYR7AOc wU4m8R/fXYZ2qPrBNYgrO7XVGB/HuW53i7vXJY6q9MpQB+OTft8qiefuHZ1yhoW8uXI8 ljD26Oer2Y10nM1liF2ObMCTg11NIuorcddy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cJlVcxCfsRFbCUgcUyKsyUINLTN/iB9B1x4jS1FRang+tRP/Cq9ZEqmAs4mbPiHvEx +OfcCYx3vVQLTwJBuRN5xXnrL6sklZbWcdgkjLS4owSFyL3TqscwlOgJYJZup9TVcvwI KqCZST19q5pITGJCcQYaIy2XLQGsmBHbLscPc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DFDB012.20800@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DFDB012.20800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:31:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 From: Alexandre Klinke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Thanks a lot for the replies! Good to know about the latency problem on the yamaha. I might have to buy that switch for the fcb then... Andy, do you know if these guys ship to Canada? At the same time I feel like moving away from the fcb1010, now i have the impression that this thing can let me down during a show. This rocktron midimate does look like a great option, and it's not that expensive. I will further research about it. Thanks for the tip James. Cheers! Alex On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:15 AM, andy butler wrote: > Alexandre Klinke wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was afraid that day would come, but after using the FCB1010 for 2 >> years, one of the switches is broken. >> I tried to find replacement parts, without luck. > > in Europe > > Office@PMS-electronics.com > > > >> Then I found this Yamaha MFC-10, never heard anything about it, so I'm >> curious to see if any of you have any experience with that. Does it >> send midi notes? > > yes, after a delay of about 70mS > (confirmed by Yamaha tech support uk,) > > totally useless for looping > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 19:50:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B08C7183462; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tVAXobaM/mNJ9wBCUxp2gnJLZOUTdX/zCZ+gl7CEejM=; b=eOhGAKqbJqeCcFBKkuT40v8jRDJN/sWIWsDJzb0oVjBQcPEJWy92vBjUYuKgxAPTUA /zlaMUNIt6M+t7DYUCzPuv2/Z8KXRJyiylf/ZNofol5wf1bb6wWg5vf+dJaWa+TmASu0 g+U1eqdb0TM19YSKi5Mu2PyCpiR1xXmXWUmAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s8qe0E6e7UDLh7WaosB9TqwMo7asU9+ZvErCHT27K4WMSV7QfnXntAtylDshyzoEBA tROG+p58M0PgwAJwDIpSTkFFEAT47ZWggBA+rp3BBWSNdvbZW2bnHySOq0hUowQ0uD7s ZZSfdqWGu1Svp3q03fWTWVrsiA/hpcvleGGwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DFDB012.20800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:50:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 From: Alexandre Klinke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:50:55 +0000 (UTC) It seems that the rocktron midimate doesn't send midi notes, am I right? The way I have my setup is the fcb1010 programmed to send midi notes to ableton with mobius as a plugin, so each switch work as an on/off switch to mobius. Is there a way to do something similar with the rocktron? cheers, Alex On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alexandre Klinke wrote: > Thanks a lot for the replies! > Good to know about the latency problem on the yamaha. > I might have to buy that switch for the fcb then... Andy, do you know > if these guys ship to Canada? > At the same time I feel like moving away from the fcb1010, now i have > the impression that this thing can let me down during a show. > This rocktron midimate does look like a great option, and it's not > that expensive. I will further research about it. Thanks for the tip > James. > Cheers! > > Alex > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:15 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Alexandre Klinke wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was afraid that day would come, but after using the FCB1010 for 2 >>> years, one of the switches is broken. >>> I tried to find replacement parts, without luck. >> >> in Europe >> >> Office@PMS-electronics.com >> >> >> >>> Then I found this Yamaha MFC-10, never heard anything about it, so I'm >>> curious to see if any of you have any experience with that. Does it >>> send midi notes? >> >> yes, after a delay of about 70mS >> (confirmed by Yamaha tech support uk,) >> >> totally useless for looping >> >> andy butler >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 20:14:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6475183462; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <568339A4-6E8F-4037-B010-E5AE6319E5B4@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--505239000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Sound vs function Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:14:02 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3LY9TC.A.BZC.Sil_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:14:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9--505239000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Email from custom tones this morning (thanks to WIlliam Walker's endorsement ;) --- "We will contact you when your Ethos is ready--the estimated ship date is May-July 2013." Heehee... Maybe it's one guy in a garage, but it's also epic mythmaking - love it :) The upside is that by July 2013 I should have nickels enough set aside to pay for it :) Phil :) Yeppers just tell em old billy sent you and I will watch the $ roll in. I'm not sure about myth making, but as you probably know there are a number of pedals on the market based on the overdrive channel of a dumble overdrive special amp. (a couple of fancy abalone shell covered numbers from Japan are uber expensive), I own a zendrive which is made by hermida audio and is an excellent pedal, and has been a keeper for me since before I got the Ethos. ( i run it in front of the ethos sometimes and they work great together). To the best of my knowledge the Ethos is the only pedal that truely addresses both channels of that legendary amp. add to that a cbinet simulator output and it really is a two channel amp in a box, simple, easy to tweak and reliable. I've played a total of 4 dumble amps in my lifetime, and I can attest to why guys like Larry Carlton and Robben Ford, and Stevie Ray Vaughn and David lindley, Eric Johnson, Carlos Santana and a host of LA studio cats past and present have owned or own these amps. Heck my friend Ty Porter, the original Doobie brothers bassist has one, and for all I know it has sat idle in his studio for 20 years. Great clean sound, and a singing dynamic overdrive sound, built to last forever. And contrary to popular belief, they don't make you instantly sound like Robben Ford or anyone else for that matter. The reason they are so valuable is because they are so rare and because they sound so good. my ethos sounds great in front of a wide variety of tube amps, equally at home in front of fender, vox, and marshall style amps. it cost $400, if you could find a real dumble amp, you would need to add two more 0's. The interesting thing about boutique overdrive pedals is interesting things happen to highly prized ones, when they go out of production. Prices can double and triple. To wit. I've owned two Klon centaurs before, an original bronze one with the centaur decal, and a later silver one without. They are great sounding but pretty large in size for what they do. He has stopped production, and coincidentally Jeff Beck has been quoted as using one. So now they are fetching prices of $1000 and up. They were just under $200 originally. I wish I had the forsight when owning them but I do now. I think both the Ethos and the Zendrive have a good chance of that happening. Bill Bill --Apple-Mail-9--505239000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Email from custom tones this morning (thanks to = WIlliam Walker's endorsement ;) ---

"We will = contact you when your Ethos is ready--the estimated ship date is = May-July 2013."

Heehee... Maybe it's one = guy in a garage, but it's also epic mythmaking - love it :) The upside = is that by July 2013 I should have nickels enough set aside to pay for = it :)

Phil = :)

Yeppers just tell em old billy sent you and = I will watch the $ roll in.  I'm not sure about myth making, but as = you probably know there are a number of pedals on the market based on = the overdrive channel of a dumble overdrive special amp. (a couple of = fancy abalone shell covered numbers from Japan are uber expensive), =  I own a zendrive which is made by hermida audio  and is an = excellent pedal, and has been a keeper for me since before I got the = Ethos. ( i run it in front of the ethos sometimes and they work great = together). To the best of my knowledge the Ethos is the only pedal that = truely addresses both channels of that legendary amp. add to that a = cbinet simulator output and it really is a two channel amp in a box, = simple,  easy to tweak and reliable. I've played a total of 4 = dumble amps in my lifetime, and I can attest to why guys like Larry = Carlton and Robben Ford, and Stevie Ray Vaughn and David lindley, Eric = Johnson,  Carlos Santana and a host of LA studio cats past and = present have owned or own these amps. Heck my friend Ty Porter, the = original Doobie brothers bassist has one, and for all I know it has sat = idle in his studio for 20 years. Great  clean sound, and a singing = dynamic overdrive sound, built to last forever. And contrary to popular = belief, they don't make you instantly sound like Robben Ford or anyone = else for that matter.  The reason they are so valuable is because = they are so rare and because they sound so good. my ethos sounds great = in front of a wide variety of tube amps, equally at home in front of = fender, vox, and marshall style amps. it cost $400, if you could find a = real dumble amp, you would need to add two more 0's. The interesting = thing about boutique overdrive pedals is interesting things happen to = highly prized ones, when they go out of production. Prices can double = and triple. To wit. I've owned two Klon centaurs before, an original = bronze one with the centaur decal, and a later  silver one without. = They are great sounding but pretty large in size  for what they do. = He has stopped production, and coincidentally Jeff Beck has been quoted = as using one. So now they are fetching prices of $1000 and up. They were = just under $200 originally.  I wish I had the forsight when owning = them but I do now. I think both the Ethos and the Zendrive have a good = chance of that happening.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-9--505239000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 20:57:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8930E183462; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: portalooper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <0D3CE39F-FD71-4278-B162-A1DF3118703F@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:57:29 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <656CAE8A-BDC4-4BC6-BEC3-0458C13FF922@grubmah.com> References: <360c8b69.b5a18.1309f38138e.Webtop.49@charter.net> <0D3CE39F-FD71-4278-B162-A1DF3118703F@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <_YYiT.A.U_C.8Km_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:57:32 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I've been succumbing to more and more of an analog signal path in the = past several months, but I could easily see a minimalist rig built = around the M13 and one or two of the Tech21 amp sim pedals depending on = whether one wanted to go stereo. That would presumably all fit on a big = Pedaltrain and the effects loop means that you can have effects both = pre-amp-sim and post-amp-sim. You could also do this with the M9, but it = gets more constrained without the effects loop. Thinking about it more and I keep coming back to M13 + 1-2 Tech21 = Character Series pedals + Volume pedal (why waste an effect) + 2 = Expression pedals as probably one of the best choices for a minimalist = system. You can upgrade to an Ethos or other fancier amp sim if money = isn't an issue (and you can get one). You can go with an M9 if less = signal routing flexibility and less direct access to functions is = acceptable. If you really wanted to go minimalist, one of the new Line6 floor PODs = would be even more self-contained. All of this presumes that the feature set on the Line6 looper works for = you. Which makes it all the more odd that the M13 is drifting into disuse in = my rig as I go with more individual effects. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 21:45:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E7F3183460; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DFE6E09.2000703@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:45:45 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Sound vs function - refuting myself References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:45:50 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > > Apparently the guitar player for chris isaac used the pod as well, > even on that legendary "wicked games" tone. > > Uh oh! > Saw WIRE here while back and Colin Newman had just an amazing array of incredible guitar tones.........all very varied; all very wicked. It was from a sonic standpoint, for me, the most intriguing and inspiring guitar show I've seen in ages. He used an old plastic Hagstrom and an Ovation Breadwinner electric (both very skinny sounding guitars) I went up to look, marvel and lust after his myriad effects pedals: and was completely shocked to see that he was running one of those large Line 6 Pod XT multi-effects pedals ($300 USD currently) into a Roland JC 120. That was it. That has to be one of the most anemic looking setups I've ever seen from what I know about that equipment but he was getting AMAZING sounds out of it. It just goes to show you how much human imagination is involved with effects processing. That Roland amp is notorious for a very, very clean sound (favored by electric jazz guitarists in the worst later phases of insipid fusion). I remember cringing in the 80's if I hit a casuals gig and new guitarist would come up on stage with one of those amps ('' aaargh, another entire night of uninspired guitar sound and lame Larry Carlton rip off licks'') Obviously, Colin was liberally using all the different amp models to get his sounds. One thing I noticed though, was that every sound he had a distinct timbre from the other guitarist in the group. He had obviously spent a long time crafting each tone because they were all beautiful and/or ominous. I was impressed. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 21:55:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7F91183459; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=u2go9sowp+g/jylVzcGEdF5GzqURnhnk1avmM1ThBqM=; b=uded8vwtsYc7zXw/nZ4pgYWRBgIB497M4kIrsc8jZ/FxOPijBFVm/HA5U7Vf4LaFvP bCOTGXtnlUpyKaGnudEmHFekuYwDwGsyazWMFE8bCgoCqeAlmFZPMSzaYK3A1sI96IGI 2MG2g4pkyzQ1aKDffuO2Tk+wtTuFU3XA+dtYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oUAN8j6q+yU7JhNIqYL/5Yeg5SEzVECySdaQblF+Dc7Z7NYvpSOjm0s9m5ao9CuAIC mlhTUTQeu6F3+2SLRaukkUgBz5Q5SDXAHRGkIoMEEI3rH6u/lziZhZhc0sS8tCv3BtnV nQz+cVLFz9dAcO7aZcTg7uorOL2glo1ptB9z8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:55:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Gibson Echoplex problem From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e687b6d2ca51c204a617aea1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:55:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e687b6d2ca51c204a617aea1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey, I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time troubleshooting. The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is what he has told me. *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them won't do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through it....just can't loop anything or press anything to change the buttons..? *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all the buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and different lights/letters are on. *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who can help, please let them know. --0016e687b6d2ca51c204a617aea1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey,

I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to= be coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time troubleshoo= ting. The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is= what he has told me.

*There a= re 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them won't do anyt= hing. There's also nothing on the LED display.

*To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mu= te, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up with a yellow light... I can control= all of my instruments through it....just can't loop anything or press = anything to change the buttons..?
*But every time i turn it on....= the mute button is either red....and a bunch of green and red "e"= s on the display screen. Trying to press all the buttons, and all of them a= re unresponsive.=A0

*Every time i turn on/off...a di= fferent screen comes up, and different lights/letters are on.

*Al= right. I have been messing around with it all day, still no luck....Every t= ime i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the LED screen is d= ifferent each time. Frustrating to say the least

If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who c= an help, please let them know. --0016e687b6d2ca51c204a617aea1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 22:05:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BABB4183461; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DO2h6IrGMRdKM+eYbhnGFDHYnQbBtGZj6ztpTqJGcQQ=; b=NBVEbfla80MUfSwA+9LC1NZNDtR9GqQDh6CeXNKj6KiQODoh0ptLmnzkM408llQEP9 tTtnYCihHuRexqIy5+gEMU4HksnGQeNHljV1sYvRWi2fD2RCOAeSwuS0hyKa4wl7RqZx 2prUkhNzTsgCHs9JFNSiJOv6Rie62fGJmOaHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HfL14yzm9jrkqpEIO0vh2l4iiocY/okkBbgO/TzZNhpepuI7aUUGpHrnwU48PY92zI JAjZEG9rlhSJ/q+vWui5BldAXAcSFmv0XCD9qU/4L06k2u+GScn/zlDmhs8f6eLhk2uD lxTc13puPkFLhhThrZPTxclN+HVsexFBpwylc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:05:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Gibson Echoplex trouble From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3056397739af6004a617d081 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:05:17 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3056397739af6004a617d081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey, I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time troubleshooting. The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is what he has told me. *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them won't do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through it....just can't loop anything or press anything to change the buttons..? *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all the buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and different lights/letters are on. *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who can help, please let them know. -- Sincerely, Tim --20cf3056397739af6004a617d081 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey,
I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be co= ming across problems with it that I am having a hard time troubleshooting. = The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is what = he has told me.

*There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressin= g them won't do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display.<= /font>

*To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mu= te, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up with a yellow light... I can control= all of my instruments through it....just can't loop anything or press = anything to change the buttons..?
*But every time i turn it on....= the mute button is either red....and a bunch of green and red "e"= s on the display screen. Trying to press all the buttons, and all of them a= re unresponsive.=A0

*Every time i turn on/off...a di= fferent screen comes up, and different lights/letters are on.

*Al= right. I have been messing around with it all day, still no luck....Every t= ime i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the LED screen is d= ifferent each time. Frustrating to say the least

If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who c= an help, please let them know.

--=
Sincerely,
Tim
--20cf3056397739af6004a617d081-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 22:09:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E52C183462; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nG+2Dj5eaSV6LVE2JvBxBo1x8yMXMkAchoXGMK0e1Nl8KeBKnWfNkiDMmO9OM3ft; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <30853890.1308521398189.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:09:57 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sound vs function - refuting myself Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4827506aa057f86fcde02fcd99f3b129dfdaeb3e8d137e934c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.40 Resent-Message-ID: <20znxD.A.kAE.2On_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Almost let this one slip by-where did you get this faulty info-Wicked Games was Fender guitars and Fender amps-there wasnt no "pod" then anyway. Jimmy Wilsey present day is alll about ampfarm/pod/etc. http://mixonline.com/recording/interviews/audio_chris_isaaks_wicked/index.html -----Original Message----- From: marcus kirby Apparently the guitar player for chris isaac used the pod as well, even on that legendary "wicked games" tone. Uh oh! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 22:33:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242F1183464; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ews03E/OniVV/rf/6BPb3QTSOm4d/nipZqfe3qEKBf4=; b=x19hSyiBvfjcMpKLgpHg82nZmtsjO9eeYAp5N5VXRi+KkFCulqT+0LrlWy/oFevTDw maf10mNng8D2trarIqs6lNm+hqb7mnLLAKzt70Vn+ByCi85+SZPtz68uYU8Pg+HsIdVG +LShnq9r8tNk6GpKjhAI2rTnAqwJzrPbwwlRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o56N7yLl+w9G/PNFMMBK7jZVJMsMUIDx6pc6WyAgU0DvxD77ecOl+jsdP8mLUs8bnW zvv43hbftCbF7KbknhBta/+QIK7R3q2qquU1F3LkQT+MdbPbsHvBGNfmyzAl2Ohm4lkG vIOQMgmQbhfV+VFY9JZVu4QXWYCG7Hq0JDGzM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:32:58 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex trouble From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db5bd671d2e104a61833b0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:33:00 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db5bd671d2e104a61833b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off. Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm and then re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become oxidized. Keith On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller < timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey, > > I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be coming > across problems with it that I am having a hard time troubleshooting. The > problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is what he > has told me. > > *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them won't do > anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. > > *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up with > a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through it....just > can't loop anything or press anything to change the buttons..? > > *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a > bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all the > buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. > > *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and different > lights/letters are on. > > *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no > luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the > LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least > > If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who can > help, please let them know. > > -- > Sincerely, > Tim > --0016e6db5bd671d2e104a61833b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off. C= arefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm and t= hen re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become oxidized.

Keith

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM= , Timothy Miller <timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,

I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller,= but he seems to be coming across problems with it that I am having a hard = time troubleshooting. The problem sounds very similar to when I first purch= ased it. This is what he has told me.

*There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing= them won't do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display.

*To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mu= te, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up with a yellow light... I can control= all of my instruments through it....just can't loop anything or press = anything to change the buttons..?
*But every time i turn it on....= the mute button is either red....and a bunch of green and red "e"= s on the display screen. Trying to press all the buttons, and all of them a= re unresponsive.=A0

*Every time i turn on/off...a di= fferent screen comes up, and different lights/letters are on.

*Al= right. I have been messing around with it all day, still no luck....Every t= ime i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the LED screen is d= ifferent each time. Frustrating to say the least

If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who c= an help, please let them know.

--
Sincerely,
Tim


--0016e6db5bd671d2e104a61833b0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 19 23:59:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE802183461; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Subject: Solstice Anyone? Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:59:55 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01CC2EE5.5E56B130" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: <5T-tcB.A.sTF.21o_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:59:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CC2EE5.5E56B130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I = wondered if anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...? = I was thinking about it myself... ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CC2EE5.5E56B130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
While=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered if = anyone=20 was planning any performances online for the 21st...?  I was = thinking about=20 it myself...
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CC2EE5.5E56B130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 00:02:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8D8B183460; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jczU1H+vQaOvp5o+hThELxwB9pZTjgRoSuGr0u3vuEY=; b=Ck2S8hHwY23WsatzQZ7qYmCshcDRgq4zpXPbHGGXpwgOnfzSqTbBu/kWpeQxe326aW NrYNtQsy6AdJoILeHUD9mhqARvdyKWx8bQAQ+JYCtOXS1S3bZH2qo51zHx/fTTVwAgZ/ V030Pahhpjpbul1B19fFCP4y1r2JyOlA34Kks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GfHnlIVJ2H2VBfsz5E1/z/c7d8f+LPhUvmltJzDGPkNfhkQzkQK3X4bDtA0TlY7k3p /hSsZdZ3Zndy57Cnr2bIouofb31QrwiojJTqBi6ib5O/PnVt04GHNdJ81vNvBkGPLTqd vGsPKWhB+j2Wq/odcelU3TUYFabiotHsZ8TwE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:02:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? From: Jim Goodin To: Stephen Goodman , loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51d2b6a790f6104a6197462 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:02:46 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51d2b6a790f6104a6197462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen why don't you and we'll host on ImprovFriday, possibly I will do a stream. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I > wondered if anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...? = I > was thinking about it myself... > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec51d2b6a790f6104a6197462 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen why don't you and we'll host on ImprovFriday, possibly I wi= ll do a stream.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7= :59 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
Wh= ile=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered if anyo= ne=20 was planning any performances online for the 21st...?=A0 I was thinking abo= ut=20 it myself...
=A0



--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec51d2b6a790f6104a6197462-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 00:16:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EC55183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=P2FX5HonXa1XM/0IaXLeyC7k6WZEnjwfCz83G62xOR4=; b=rxC1VtSQGxy1xDRGZ3AyBR0paPSzGv5DpOQPr58RZiPqnCmSBMhCc3GdPlneBp3cNH yfr+69W/Zab3RC6ZHp84zdKme8cUQv6nMNZMDGO7EVxms4XQDnw06/f4xtdQAVy74dmR GFaCGZNd0ehzfjWgHie1rKyfXFBhwY5NT6DyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b7P/x5A01h5MuZvhbiyxhX5WRKH3wjUtLVja4hyJ6EVl0G+WfQ9zDQOkUbkfJUeVot VglNANAo9jXZNl8K0NZ5s+7ytmZ3w09SpiKxnRk63hMDH0hAnvFMAXclurSeL6c7b/7I us2p613Euvx1aax2gn0DlClXiEG5+bwRsCypg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex trouble From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302d49c62745f104a619a4e9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:16:06 +0000 (UTC) --20cf302d49c62745f104a619a4e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Keith, How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it when I owned it, so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say in the Echoplex manuel? On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off. > Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm and > then re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become oxidized. > > Keith > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller < > timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be coming >> across problems with it that I am having a hard time troubleshooting. The >> problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is what he >> has told me. >> >> *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them won't do >> anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. >> >> *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up >> with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through >> it....just can't loop anything or press anything to change the buttons..? >> >> *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a >> bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all the >> buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. >> >> *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and different >> lights/letters are on. >> >> *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no >> luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the >> LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least >> >> If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who can >> help, please let them know. >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Tim >> > > > -- Sincerely, Tim --20cf302d49c62745f104a619a4e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keith,

How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it whe= n I owned it, so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say = in the Echoplex manuel?

On Sun, Jun 19, 2= 011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest yo= u unplug and take the top off. Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big= ones), up about 2 or 3 mm and then re-seat them. this may help if the cont= acts have become oxidized.

Keith


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller <tim= othy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,

I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but h= e seems to be coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time t= roubleshooting. The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased i= t. This is what he has told me.

*There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing the= m won't do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display.

*To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mu= te, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up with a yellow light... I can control= all of my instruments through it....just can't loop anything or press = anything to change the buttons..?
*But every time i turn it on....= the mute button is either red....and a bunch of green and red "e"= s on the display screen. Trying to press all the buttons, and all of them a= re unresponsive.=A0

*Every time i turn on/off...a di= fferent screen comes up, and different lights/letters are on.

*Al= right. I have been messing around with it all day, still no luck....Every t= ime i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the LED screen is d= ifferent each time. Frustrating to say the least

If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who c= an help, please let them know.

--
Sincerely,
Tim





--
Sincerely,<= br>Tim
--20cf302d49c62745f104a619a4e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 01:04:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1827183456; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=w4MyPopNscG3PbSkZSHrma/LfxS2jtQmsUe2ditmoxg=; b=XpLOqtHxzwhM7JvqtZQAUdd8G+j0xbd88wCiUvGStvFkstSOTJFh2tmKwccmdiYIYd lNVHlq/O6F2DJTKkzkNVzj846SBno8b8MwObJrEEcJcF8WGDLd+mLr1I+WtBt9wCBf+V 700qL3A/b/BA5O9CCYsVL3zteVl7TT6rYFQbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=Bpk90fJlPHdbUBfHvcge3PnjqTDliwmgVhn9dcDdFSzpMuLUsXUnf9zuzzs5rniznF RdTXm7ku1AWmZvgNQqD70zXJVHByeRERoKhnsivX/0MDwghNrCePG466UthplKtOb7Ii GPYij0y2ak0CBgYE2U6n7aGCsZnDSaM7HzgXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jeffloops@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:04:25 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: h4Br5qVXlFbMdgDOj9NrZJXXDvY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? From: Jeff Duke To: Jim Goodin Cc: Stephen Goodman , loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cc6206e90504a61a516a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:04:26 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cc6206e90504a61a516a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Count me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the electro-music gig I am kind of getting back into the swing of things. peace, Jeffffff On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > Stephen why don't you and we'll host on ImprovFriday, possibly I will do = a > stream. > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goodman > wrote: > >> While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I >> wondered if anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...?= I >> was thinking about it myself... >> >> > > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --20cf3071cc6206e90504a61a516a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Count me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the electro-m= usic gig I am kind of getting back into the swing of things.

peace,<= br>
Jeffffff

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8= :02 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Stephen why don&#= 39;t you and we'll host on ImprovFriday, possibly I will do a stream.
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goo= dman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
While=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered if anyo= ne=20 was planning any performances online for the 21st...?=A0 I was thinking abo= ut=20 it myself...
=A0



-- From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim G= oodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will ben= efit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com

--20cf3071cc6206e90504a61a516a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 01:50:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89837183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=nS7mx5OiLHBzqvVq5YRjys4byuMH8j79qIntFuYvfVY=; b=vWwkMLAz/i5oyLUrfHyIdRZsz6AeMuRkQn5s9uNGQINuOTKkHDy4VGRINvsVAFxMfo tFN2fF3mNsSTkogTx9dfpX+hxB+pq4wZgGgoCzK9iyvymOeru4+I2lN2Xcka4Y4C8gzy yDqWgdU0fzUxmvqTF8cAH29MfeoV9T8jAYRWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=gOBpzYCBGrtaxRA2MpJaSPQ0hXx89jQ4goTNy9T4TXLpNmgOoHyjuyGFwNLdgmIFZK jXBlCUewCWPnX4eVmBBtAQV7seVc17FqGn6s36QWaObni5Vm80kfSaVTIiZF6Z6rJNZO 8g68ykhdxFCcgWx86zZitA3Bi8D083pbRkYos= From: Phil Clevenger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Midiocracy Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:50:10 -0700 Message-Id: <9F968890-3DBD-4436-B41A-80E9527B63D1@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:50:15 +0000 (UTC) OK Looperati -=20 After 3 days of tearing my hair out, researching on the web, and one = perplexing visit to a Guitar Center MIDI hotshot about a third of my = age, I am crying 'uncle' and calling LD tech support: Is there really no way to synch an EDP or LP-1 with rhythm tracks from = Logic Pro, *and* control the looper with a MIDI footswitch (FC300) ? =95 The loopers both have MIDI in/out/thru. =95 The FC300 has MIDI in/out. =95 Logic from my MacBook is using an M-Audio MidiSport USB cable, which = has MIDI in/out. I can get either clock from Logic into looper, or footswitch control = into looper, depending upon cable routing, but have not been able to get = both at the same time. Thought I had a genius idea to use the LP-1 MIDI clock out to drive = Logic's BPM (instead of the reverse) only to find that Logic Pro 8 = cannot operate as a slave.. gah ! Truly appreciative of any pointers. It's OK to point and laugh too. Phil :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 01:51:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89C1A183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:51:39 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CC2EF4.FA241B70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: <8kkz3B.A.wuG.leq_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:51:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CC2EF4.FA241B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As is necessary, I=E2=80=99ll take the midnight London time/7pm EDT/4pm = PDT slot for an hour. From: Jeff Duke=20 Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:04 AM To: Jim Goodin=20 Cc: Stephen Goodman ; loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? Count me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the = electro-music gig I am kind of getting back into the swing of things. peace, Jeffffff On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim Goodin = wrote: Stephen why don't you and we'll host on ImprovFriday, possibly I will = do a stream. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goodman = wrote: While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I = wondered if anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...? = I was thinking about it myself... --=20 From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CC2EF4.FA241B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As is necessary, I=E2=80=99ll take the midnight London time/7pm = EDT/4pm PDT slot=20 for an hour.
 
From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:04 AM
Cc: Stephen Goodman ; loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone?
 
Count=20 me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the = electro-music gig I=20 am kind of getting back into the swing of=20 things.

peace,

Jeffffff

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim Goodin = <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>= =20 wrote:
Stephen why don't you and we'll host on = ImprovFriday,=20 possibly I will do a stream.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen = Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
While=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered = if=20 anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...?  I = was=20 thinking about it myself...
=
 



--
From Brooklyn To = Glindran, a new=20 World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. =20 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF = International.  jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CC2EF4.FA241B70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 02:16:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 643E7183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZInXQRlsbQ72l4EG7FbP2ipYp7cLtDN85kpPuKV4Qmg=; b=vqPK45xlBBbF0XpEfng6Hzwg5tOAFmQkQGJFiK46d6n/jnt/ANgatn9tAhy6famyFQ PwOQBbotC5Gs3xF6Pbh5JLofbRgMX3wTvj/VLVmZevafi1tgN1HthOacJe6I/qWdrQoB UrDKl1WcQP+scR7yYntNYlza5OVPEKoB9fr9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PN/xGxqFI2wT8ZcdjiEIloffceGGb6MDxSvYHGe8QeW0mwTuo+3FRveg/LI3s0AURt ie32S+g7LF0cT9HvXKiZQ5mvbOlYHsDkNOwe5TCvRV6bwhBDADDtfT27IsavIb+jqyYf pWIdkRdFDLWYA42bFaQ7t2IPLC7qpwioRY8L0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> <143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:16:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? From: Jim Goodin To: Stephen Goodman Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5171ed5814a7904a61b5159 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:16:09 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5171ed5814a7904a61b5159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen initially when I saw your note I was thinking the normal IF Thur - Sat event time slot however that is askew of the 21st of course. Naturally I can understand doing the feed on Solstice which with my work schedule I doubt I can. I would be better suited for the weekend. I'll check about I= F taking your feed on Tuesday at 4 and get back to you. Regardless grand to celebrate the time. I recall fondly when Steve Moyes streamed live for 24 hours on the winter solstice I believe, now scratching my head for the year= . Jim On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > As is necessary, I=92ll take the midnight London time/7pm EDT/4pm PDT s= lot > for an hour. > > *From:* Jeff Duke > *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2011 2:04 AM > *To:* Jim Goodin > *Cc:* Stephen Goodman ; > loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* Re: Solstice Anyone? > > Count me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the > electro-music gig I am kind of getting back into the swing of things. > > peace, > > Jeffffff > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim Goodin wro= te: > >> Stephen why don't you and we'll host on ImprovFriday, possibly I will do= a >> stream. >> >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goodman < >> spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote: >> >>> While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I >>> wondered if anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...= ? I >>> was thinking about it myself... >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim >> Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec5171ed5814a7904a61b5159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen initially when I saw your note I was thinking the normal IF Thur - = Sat event time slot however that is askew of the 21st of course. =A0Natural= ly I can understand doing the feed on Solstice which with my work schedule = I doubt I can. =A0I would be better suited for the weekend. =A0I'll che= ck about IF taking your feed on Tuesday at 4 and get back to you. =A0Regard= less grand to celebrate the time. =A0I recall fondly when Steve Moyes strea= med live for 24 hours on the winter solstice I believe, now scratching my h= ead for the year.

Jim

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 a= t 9:51 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
As is necessary, I=92ll take the midnight London time/7pm EDT/4pm PDT = slot=20 for an hour.
=A0
From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone?
=A0
Co= unt=20 me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the electro-music g= ig I=20 am kind of getting back into the swing of=20 things.

peace,

Jeffffff

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
Stephen why don't you= and we'll host on ImprovFriday,=20 possibly I will do a stream.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goodm= an <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
While=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered if= =20 anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...?=A0 I was= =20 thinking about it myself...
=A0



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran= , a new=20 World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0=20 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 = jimgo= odinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
=A0



--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec5171ed5814a7904a61b5159-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 02:34:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28A30183460; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=07N4rsYagzvGhbsnSyWPyoRICGkM6TObsuiwV9jdJYs=; b=u2NQBHApDmswV+1UEhbS892ycwkv0rAj3jZvADVMfXisMg+DALBfkKn47lfiafl1V9 KF573vf2yWXbHW9DNBURgSnWK7uzU3R6gMugnpxSluwuLqZKW0Yxe7ywk5pVfh+EQiSP aSb+UTpNmQQY+PHhbH/zjVyrKbCPsS27Y/few= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Mr7J6anAS4bRAWy06ypb1uACdZgfNMFkNFAxxUfxJLbd5zG5zMF3Nkm4Pb/Xdrp0SX pYqW0LpCJxq+QK48yxwzlFlxk1HrVZwQUbeMoiwBAvN9p3nJeI2qBdR6cZR7K6lkEa1r hRSolYCWOHqUfg3SJSt2fp35TP02zx2wIDW20= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex trouble From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303a2db5aedb7a04a61b92ac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:34:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303a2db5aedb7a04a61b92ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Keith, We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just kept decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions? On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Timothy Miller < timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote: > Keith, > > How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it when I owned it, > so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say in the Echoplex > manuel? > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > >> If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off. >> Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm and >> then re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become oxidized. >> >> Keith >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller < >> timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be coming >>> across problems with it that I am having a hard time troubleshooting. The >>> problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is what he >>> has told me. >>> >>> *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them won't >>> do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. >>> >>> *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up >>> with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through >>> it....just can't loop anything or press anything to change the buttons..? >>> >>> *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a >>> bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all the >>> buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. >>> >>> *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and different >>> lights/letters are on. >>> >>> *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no >>> luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the >>> LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least >>> >>> If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who can >>> help, please let them know. >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Tim >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Sincerely, > Tim > -- Sincerely, Tim --20cf303a2db5aedb7a04a61b92ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Keith,

We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for whatever reaso= n. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just kept decrea= sing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions?

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Timothy Mil= ler <= timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith,

How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it whe= n I owned it, so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say = in the Echoplex manuel?


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com>= wrote:
If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you= unplug and take the top off. Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big = ones), up about 2 or 3 mm and then re-seat them. this may help if the conta= cts have become oxidized.

Keith


On = Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller <timothy.luke.mi= ller@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,

I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but h= e seems to be coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time t= roubleshooting. The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased i= t. This is what he has told me.

*There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing the= m won't do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display.

*To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mu= te, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up with a yellow light... I can control= all of my instruments through it....just can't loop anything or press = anything to change the buttons..?
*But every time i turn it on....= the mute button is either red....and a bunch of green and red "e"= s on the display screen. Trying to press all the buttons, and all of them a= re unresponsive.=A0

*Every time i turn on/off...a di= fferent screen comes up, and different lights/letters are on.

*Al= right. I have been messing around with it all day, still no luck....Every t= ime i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the LED screen is d= ifferent each time. Frustrating to say the least

If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who c= an help, please let them know.

--
Sincerely,
Tim





--
Sincerely,
Tim



--
Sincerely,
Ti= m
--20cf303a2db5aedb7a04a61b92ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 02:34:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB932183464; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vuzXMhZLtVl9LjxnfMhsWC2W8RuRdBc2JMxo9wXvcYg=; b=JFUuEf7jRbYgBl/pwLc3pGQnkENtO1nl6yiCq8IBiHLqpO9xxTaIJi08gDM3xSW3Il f3feaKxRxLbgz+2SSg5x+egqDa1S/s1clFkJe/fy9b6Uh5Fpu2LQvFkZOnNv/XZF8nkX Rv8V+t26EYXLM5UXIrDoOqLjyf4Saeh0HKi5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=m2leRSmva+rwkvg0Vr+2eyn3oQZXBF2hCCdearL/8LU2ni95tSFKMHxWM3LvzXUCJp dRZ5fD96MBxnP2PFxz+kJNhSawFh3x7R9bVzCDKb02xlKslR3LGgxOTUHIXL9iE+odSi eGpt9VwgAr3EaZ+igphEauxezSAXKHxzwdTKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:34:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Echoplex working, now sound is decreasing. From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3056409ba0388504a61b9448 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:34:55 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3056409ba0388504a61b9448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just kept decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions? -- Sincerely, Tim --20cf3056409ba0388504a61b9448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for whatever= reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just kept = decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions?

--
Sincerely,
Tim
--20cf3056409ba0388504a61b9448-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 02:40:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC82618345E; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2w+4fyZ/tO86MLusiLTQ1uqdhSdZxscvH7hfbC4HCDg=; b=rw53+yjOrJmgVoT1bBvcZio8hY0Addxet3+CywSABIqLBbm258wYjWnGrn5eTvYPqR F5nDLijSIpYc14uLCtp+pDcPkt3y86xeRh53q6zYhDmpXiYIOyXEPGEBEkNqmbctIuoV +KtwJuSU6ylcVM+F81nONJQGNXwevffAhqlfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AQn+De37UHxOMoDlXiPDmNIN8BggjDV0HT3LNKkemytPbQ0hOr7ClUn6SHw/vmHdV9 ijPj9sYOp+Z0bOQndsGqVYM2wi6HztkTCcBfGQt80PTMGtlqESi+X+KCNbtNUOKeK3GV JqN0VfgtYOwfDFLSBq/ifr3t9tM+yKud834LQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> <143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:40:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f9179de7d5d04a61ba791 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:40:18 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f9179de7d5d04a61ba791 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I remember that one, he said that he fell asleep while still playing! I remember going to bed, getting up, still playing, going to work and coming home and he was still looping! Oh what I said before down below i wasn't ill playing the gig I was ill got better and then played the gig, sheesh. hey why are we on LD with this? Probably cause people to try to unsudscride= , oh well... jd On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Stephen initially when I saw your note I was thinking the normal IF Thur = - > Sat event time slot however that is askew of the 21st of course. Natural= ly > I can understand doing the feed on Solstice which with my work schedule I > doubt I can. I would be better suited for the weekend. I'll check about= IF > taking your feed on Tuesday at 4 and get back to you. Regardless grand t= o > celebrate the time. I recall fondly when Steve Moyes streamed live for 2= 4 > hours on the winter solstice I believe, now scratching my head for the ye= ar. > > Jim > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Stephen Goodman > wrote: > >> As is necessary, I=92ll take the midnight London time/7pm EDT/4pm PDT >> slot for an hour. >> >> *From:* Jeff Duke >> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2011 2:04 AM >> *To:* Jim Goodin >> *Cc:* Stephen Goodman ; >> loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Subject:* Re: Solstice Anyone? >> >> Count me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the >> electro-music gig I am kind of getting back into the swing of things. >> >> peace, >> >> Jeffffff >> >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim Goodin wr= ote: >> >>> Stephen why don't you and we'll host on ImprovFriday, possibly I will d= o >>> a stream. >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goodman < >>> spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote: >>> >>>> While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I >>>> wondered if anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st..= .? I >>>> was thinking about it myself... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim >>> Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >>> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >>> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >>> >>> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >>> >> >> > > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --bcaec53f9179de7d5d04a61ba791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I remember that one, he said that he fell asleep while still playing! I rem= ember going to bed, getting up, still playing, going to work and coming hom= e and he was still looping!

Oh what I said before down below i wasn&= #39;t ill playing the gig I was ill got better and then played the gig, she= esh.

hey why are we on LD with this? Probably cause people to try to unsudsc= ride, oh well...

jd

On Sun, Jun 19= , 2011 at 10:16 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Stephen initially= when I saw your note I was thinking the normal IF Thur - Sat event time sl= ot however that is askew of the 21st of course. =A0Naturally I can understa= nd doing the feed on Solstice which with my work schedule I doubt I can. = =A0I would be better suited for the weekend. =A0I'll check about IF tak= ing your feed on Tuesday at 4 and get back to you. =A0Regardless grand to c= elebrate the time. =A0I recall fondly when Steve Moyes streamed live for 24= hours on the winter solstice I believe, now scratching my head for the yea= r.

Jim

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 a= t 9:51 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>= wrote:
As is necessary, I=92ll take the midnight London time/7pm EDT/4pm PDT = slot=20 for an hour.
=A0
From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone?
=A0
Count=20 me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the electro-music g= ig I=20 am kind of getting back into the swing of=20 things.

peace,

Jeffffff

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
Stephen why don&#= 39;t you and we'll host on ImprovFriday,=20 possibly I will do a stream.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goodm= an <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
While=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered if= =20 anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...?=A0 I was= =20 thinking about it myself...
=A0



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran= , a new=20 World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0=20 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 = jimgo= odinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
=A0



--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com

--bcaec53f9179de7d5d04a61ba791-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 03:46:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E203183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 03:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--478133698 Subject: Kannon the Merciful Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:45:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 03:46:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--478133698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My dear friend Mando Man, other wise known as Hideki Nakanishi built me an extraordinaire lap steel guitar and today i posted an improvisation on youtube playing this amazing instrument, also of note is that Ryusei Hattori did an amazing relief carving of the goddess Kannon on the headstock. and Leander Reininghaus provided a rockinger made multi bender bridge to achieve individual string pulls like a pedal steel guitar. Though i'm still getting my sea legs with the bridge, what I have found so far is really inspiring. Thanks and enjoy Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SIF__77B9k --Apple-Mail-10--478133698 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  My dear friend Mando Man,  other wise known as Hideki Nakanishi built me an extraordinaire lap steel guitar  and today i posted an improvisation  on youtube playing this amazing instrument,  also of note is that Ryusei Hattori did an amazing relief carving of the goddess Kannon on the headstock. and Leander Reininghaus  provided a rockinger made multi bender bridge to achieve individual string pulls like a pedal steel guitar. Though i'm still getting my sea legs with the bridge, what I have found so far is really inspiring.
 Thanks and enjoy
--Apple-Mail-10--478133698-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 04:16:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F6B8183460; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q76+YyLcL815zIW5EjXtYDMzX4ClKxXsgimbVSD3LRU=; b=PQnWaWrX3Jd1kYtyC0AxQNxsYj8x3My1UzopcMWODiz6lrzRDtf53uB9qC6b5+4pDt Jg3rHaa5gqsV3e9lxmtoldMSCShp0RoxrXOaG2D72p6klPioz+EeFbbCy9Tn1y8tt+3B JcjRFYywKo+SEh+PyxdQoDmnulfDgw18ulyj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hPzd97/1ZF1nNDn336TIgbv6uFxAStKPMyJNSt6WzcvWFDbERzbhSLbgqLwhv7vbyp 54gNxCdd1LNR4ougQzf5Mx6s47Ni7aTG2HzwvS5rZNgy3b6O+/wFHkf3lrG0NR5VsdJc COJ4NQfdWFVRZaw8PP6haGtJCXI2wmE/UBduI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9F968890-3DBD-4436-B41A-80E9527B63D1@gmail.com> References: <9F968890-3DBD-4436-B41A-80E9527B63D1@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:16:36 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pZ1AKtGY1qfu17stJUYvTCzkWWI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Midiocracy From: Tom Swirly To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cb1a5b6c4204a61d0080 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:16:38 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cb1a5b6c4204a61d0080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know these units but it sounds bad... cause everyone wants to be master! A desperate trick that has worked before is free-running sync. Modern digital clocks are very accurate, as long as Logic can respond to MIDI start/stop and your tempos are precisely the same, your two clocks should run very close for a long time. I blame all your gear and programs, and Logic most of all. Every device should be able to run as a slave, but a sequencer particularly. On Jun 19, 2011 9:50 PM, "Phil Clevenger" wrote: > OK Looperati - > > After 3 days of tearing my hair out, researching on the web, and one perplexing visit to a Guitar Center MIDI hotshot about a third of my age, I am crying 'uncle' and calling LD tech support: > > Is there really no way to synch an EDP or LP-1 with rhythm tracks from Logic Pro, *and* control the looper with a MIDI footswitch (FC300) ? > > =E2=80=A2 The loopers both have MIDI in/out/thru. > > =E2=80=A2 The FC300 has MIDI in/out. > > =E2=80=A2 Logic from my MacBook is using an M-Audio MidiSport USB cable, = which has MIDI in/out. > > I can get either clock from Logic into looper, or footswitch control into looper, depending upon cable routing, but have not been able to get both at the same time. > > Thought I had a genius idea to use the LP-1 MIDI clock out to drive Logic's BPM (instead of the reverse) only to find that Logic Pro 8 cannot operate as a slave.. gah ! > > Truly appreciative of any pointers. It's OK to point and laugh too. > > Phil :) > > --20cf3071cb1a5b6c4204a61d0080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't know these units but it sounds bad... cause everyone wants t= o be master!

A desperate trick that has worked before is free-running sync.=C2=A0 Mod= ern digital clocks are very accurate, as long as Logic can respond to MIDI = start/stop and your tempos are precisely the same, your two clocks should r= un very close for a long time.

I blame all your gear and programs, and Logic most of all.=C2=A0 Every d= evice should be able to run as a slave, but a sequencer particularly.

On Jun 19, 2011 9:50 PM, "Phil Clevenger" <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK Looperati -
>
> After 3 days of tear= ing my hair out, researching on the web, and one perplexing visit to a Guit= ar Center MIDI hotshot about a third of my age, I am crying 'uncle'= ; and calling LD tech support:
>
> Is there really no way to synch an EDP or LP-1 with rhythm tr= acks from Logic Pro, *and* control the looper with a MIDI footswitch (FC300= ) ?
>
> =E2=80=A2 The loopers both have MIDI in/out/thru.
&= gt;
> =E2=80=A2 The FC300 has MIDI in/out.
>
> =E2=80=A2 Logic = from my MacBook is using an M-Audio MidiSport USB cable, which has MIDI in/= out.
>
> I can get either clock from Logic into looper, or foo= tswitch control into looper, depending upon cable routing, but have not bee= n able to get both at the same time.
>
> Thought I had a genius idea to use the LP-1 MIDI clock out to= drive Logic's BPM (instead of the reverse) only to find that Logic Pro= 8 cannot operate as a slave.. gah !
>
> Truly appreciative of= any pointers. It's OK to point and laugh too.
>
> Phil :)
>
>

--20cf3071cb1a5b6c4204a61d0080-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 04:40:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D32E3183450; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=78w0rJ_KAvDnR_dVCAEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <239253A0-0708-4927-8238-AB3B05C7BBF3@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:40:08 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Very nice Bill. You are the master. On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:45 PM, William Walker wrote: > My dear friend Mando Man, other wise known as Hideki Nakanishi > built me an extraordinaire lap steel guitar and today i posted an > improvisation on youtube playing this amazing instrument, also of > note is that Ryusei Hattori did an amazing relief carving of the > goddess Kannon on the headstock. and Leander Reininghaus provided a > rockinger made multi bender bridge to achieve individual string > pulls like a pedal steel guitar. Though i'm still getting my sea > legs with the bridge, what I have found so far is really inspiring. > Thanks and enjoy > Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SIF__77B9k From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 05:11:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C857183459; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DFED682.7090705@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:11:30 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Sound vs function - refuting myself References: <30853890.1308521398189.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <30853890.1308521398189.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6pzqPD.A.6AB.Hat_NB@arsenic> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:11:36 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: > Apparently the guitar player for chris isaac used the pod as well, even on that legendary "wicked games" tone. > Uh oh! Very cool article. I especially like the part where they said Chris' vocals were done in a tiny room with him listening to speakers instead of headphones.......they said the cymbal sound changes every time Chris started singing because it was a bit on the vocal track. This reminds me of the only overdub I put onto my Translucent Dayglo Lime Green Plastic, found sound/live looping CD in 2003. It was the very last thing I recorded before I released the CD. I had this really great live track I'd done with bunch of pots and pans that I found at a flea market. it just so happened that there was a small open mic the night of the flea market and I was excited about having these cool new 'instruments' so I went into perform............at one point I had played a little melody on something or other and just trying to be funny, I said 'Everybody', the next time the melody loop came around. To my amazement, the whole crowd started singing in unison with the melody. It was really amazing and made the hair stand up on my neck. Unfortunately, when I got home to listen to the recording, I realized that my mics had been facing me, so I could hardly hear the audience singing (even though it was pretty loud in the room). So I decided to ask all the best singers that I knew if they would come down to the local Blue Lagoon, rock bar/gay disco and do an overdub on the song. I knew that they needed to hear the track, so I set up a ghetto blaster 10 feet in front of everyone and asked if everyone would be as quiet as possible and I recorded a mono track with the vocal microphones in lace to capture the singers without any singing. I then went back and had everyone sing as I conducted with the same ghetto blaster as the 'prompter'. Then I took the original track and reversed it's phase and placed it against the singing track. Wonderfully, it worked really well and the track from the ghetto blaster got cut out of the singing track. We all finished up and I cracked open a couple of bottles of champagne and the record was finished. It was a really awesome day. If anyone's interested, I'll send 'em an .mp3 of the resultant track. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 07:21:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 795A418345E; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00fb01cc2f1a$a5a1c7c0$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com><143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:21:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F8_01CC2F23.0738DE30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=3NElcqgl2aoA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=_ak9i7-zAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=l1qK0aSRAAAA:8 a=qy8YlRSMlEdwbjZhIQoA:9 a=_xStJqp1acx9Z8U_MBoA:7 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=ZUCc8-J6hhAA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=_l2Q2dtbBbIA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=dqqJoEbOGFSUIGsEqjgA:9 a=7fAS3iPAzsRHc3yN_QMA:7 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:21:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01CC2F23.0738DE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in too, Stephen. I'm happy to play any time before midnight, = although something like 8:00pm would be nice - it's nice to use daylight = for these things where possible! I hope you ge some more people beyound = the usual live streaming music people. ;) And yes, I did play for 24 hours for winter solstice 2009, and I did = perform the "trick" of keeping on playing despite breifly falling = asleep. Don't know if I'll ever do that again... cheers Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 3:40 AM Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? I remember that one, he said that he fell asleep while still playing! = I remember going to bed, getting up, still playing, going to work and = coming home and he was still looping! Oh what I said before down below i wasn't ill playing the gig I was = ill got better and then played the gig, sheesh. hey why are we on LD with this? Probably cause people to try to = unsudscride, oh well... jd On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Jim Goodin = wrote: Stephen initially when I saw your note I was thinking the normal IF = Thur - Sat event time slot however that is askew of the 21st of course. = Naturally I can understand doing the feed on Solstice which with my work = schedule I doubt I can. I would be better suited for the weekend. I'll = check about IF taking your feed on Tuesday at 4 and get back to you. = Regardless grand to celebrate the time. I recall fondly when Steve = Moyes streamed live for 24 hours on the winter solstice I believe, now = scratching my head for the year. Jim On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Stephen Goodman = wrote: As is necessary, I=92ll take the midnight London time/7pm EDT/4pm = PDT slot for an hour. From: Jeff Duke=20 Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:04 AM To: Jim Goodin=20 Cc: Stephen Goodman ; loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? Count me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the = electro-music gig I am kind of getting back into the swing of things. peace, Jeffffff On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim Goodin = wrote: Stephen why don't you and we'll host on ImprovFriday, possibly I = will do a stream. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Goodman = wrote: While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend = I wondered if anyone was planning any performances online for the = 21st...? I was thinking about it myself... --=20 From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by = Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --=20 From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01CC2F23.0738DE30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm in too, Stephen. I'm happy to play = any time=20 before midnight, although something like 8:00pm would be nice - it's = nice to use=20 daylight for these things where possible! I hope you ge some more people = beyound=20 the usual live streaming music people. ;)
 
And yes, I did play for 24 hours for = winter=20 solstice 2009, and I did perform the "trick" of keeping on playing = despite=20 breifly falling asleep. Don't know if I'll ever do that = again...
 
cheers
 
Steve
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 = 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: Solstice = Anyone?

I remember that one, he said that he fell asleep while = still=20 playing! I remember going to bed, getting up, still playing, going to = work and=20 coming home and he was still looping!

Oh what I said before = down below=20 i wasn't ill playing the gig I was ill got better and then played the = gig,=20 sheesh.

hey why are we on LD with this? Probably cause people = to try to=20 unsudscride, oh well...

jd

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Jim Goodin = <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>= =20 wrote:
Stephen initially when I saw your note I was = thinking the=20 normal IF Thur - Sat event time slot however that is askew of the = 21st of=20 course.  Naturally I can understand doing the feed on Solstice = which=20 with my work schedule I doubt I can.  I would be better suited = for the=20 weekend.  I'll check about IF taking your feed on Tuesday at 4 = and get=20 back to you.  Regardless grand to celebrate the time.  I = recall=20 fondly when Steve Moyes streamed live for 24 hours on the winter = solstice I=20 believe, now scratching my head for the year.

Jim

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Stephen = Goodman=20 <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
As is necessary, I=92ll take the midnight London time/7pm = EDT/4pm PDT=20 slot for an hour.
 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone?
 
Count=20 me in, great idea. After getting over being ill playing the = electro-music=20 gig I am kind of getting back into the swing of=20 things.

peace,

Jeffffff

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jim = Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Stephen why don't you and we'll host on = ImprovFriday,=20 possibly I will do a stream.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM, = Stephen Goodman=20 <spgoodman@earthlight.net> = wrote:
While=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I = wondered if=20 anyone was planning any performances online for the = 21st...?  I=20 was thinking about it myself...
=
 



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From Brooklyn To = Glindran,=20 a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn. =20 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF=20 International.  jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
=
 
<= BR>
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From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new = World/Free Jazz=20 recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from = the sale=20 of this CD will benefit JDRF International.  jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
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------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01CC2F23.0738DE30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 07:34:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A466F183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=S93Tx7hoH5NTJt6tVpEQnqtrpCkpI0Qyv6+Y0e5qdgA=; b=UINmkY4pzioYIwrTYP9j9g3u5pNffvnu69jrTBmdMgtkeBijF9lXiwqr7VRGGwbgjM P+Kn+M3QD9Q6EEdGWg8hoHaOO7gP2hGUdiEx8tSLriui8YOXIxjBSypuKIrG/gU6z65W 5+E3JYE8u0ffcBfxDpNoZ1r7E7GMr1+WfNbWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=g1nyNueoUO2CXwmpT8j42hDK3GK+3JrIxZDrgajgoQbR/rQEqg8bAtaCdygpRxV1w2 DRd9uFEk/atw9ViDXLY0rcCn+2qylqTUQmrcUTG77ybo8mmpEHZspHDveuGkavgYvsw9 WcAUurdsH5m8COHgFsp0zETZ4e0kY5MEUn3tU= Subject: Re: Midiocracy References: <9F968890-3DBD-4436-B41A-80E9527B63D1@gmail.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: <9F968890-3DBD-4436-B41A-80E9527B63D1@gmail.com> Message-Id: <22457583-6147-4D99-BA2C-49459963EDBC@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:38:11 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:34:44 +0000 (UTC) In all your searching I can't believe nobody has suggested the obvious solut= ion of simply using a midi merge box! Sent from my iPod On 20 Jun 2011, at 02:50, Phil Clevenger wrote: > OK Looperati -=20 >=20 > After 3 days of tearing my hair out, researching on the web, and one perpl= exing visit to a Guitar Center MIDI hotshot about a third of my age, I am c= rying 'uncle' and calling LD tech support: >=20 > Is there really no way to synch an EDP or LP-1 with rhythm tracks from Log= ic Pro, *and* control the looper with a MIDI footswitch (FC300) ? >=20 > =E2=80=A2 The loopers both have MIDI in/out/thru. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 The FC300 has MIDI in/out. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Logic from my MacBook is using an M-Audio MidiSport USB cable, w= hich has MIDI in/out. >=20 > I can get either clock from Logic into looper, or footswitch control into l= ooper, depending upon cable routing, but have not been able to get both at t= he same time. >=20 > Thought I had a genius idea to use the LP-1 MIDI clock out to drive Logic'= s BPM (instead of the reverse) only to find that Logic Pro 8 cannot operate a= s a slave.. gah ! >=20 > Truly appreciative of any pointers. It's OK to point and laugh too. >=20 > Phil :) >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 07:43:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8D6E183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=eM20mm7qbnUW3IS+3u9ud4i0GWtGU+4omo4OGeQ04ec=; b=Ci7aJo5QaLmrPWW3pgwleDh5SJWzf31jLLrZeE46+nyOP/cyOtepD4WN3M+BB8jTTj ySf9SRMwventYilE+asrIJMMaRvDw6C93j6yERnaL789eylHw37du/zk2Ggd9qyNUXK4 Wq69x/70T+PT6tZ5BGYYUT+Kos8CfcSkUrYhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=fNDH0LS6TazZvOs+V+7QNR5ye6fvXSt6AFd49DOoNZn8PgTZz97hLl5JeRiJXisWBj Z0HxJT+vs6r57G5BNkb+vZnyU3gx4geR9ZaskGsMHSoHsC7XK7iB04W0wTv6uuqHXVbk raBEjLRbZE97h1A7jBti13kp3WpUyYIg6gsyU= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Midiocracy From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <22457583-6147-4D99-BA2C-49459963EDBC@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:43:29 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1AC0DEA5-2B7D-4527-BD6C-08809E2A58FD@gmail.com> References: <9F968890-3DBD-4436-B41A-80E9527B63D1@gmail.com> <22457583-6147-4D99-BA2C-49459963EDBC@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:43:34 +0000 (UTC) You know what, I *just* came across this: http://www.midisolutions.com/prodmrg.htm Nice to have your validation there, many THANK YOUS indeed :) Phil=20 On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:38 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > In all your searching I can't believe nobody has suggested the obvious = solution of simply using a midi merge box! >=20 > Sent from my iPod >=20 > On 20 Jun 2011, at 02:50, Phil Clevenger = wrote: >=20 >> OK Looperati -=20 >>=20 >> After 3 days of tearing my hair out, researching on the web, and one = perplexing visit to a Guitar Center MIDI hotshot about a third of my = age, I am crying 'uncle' and calling LD tech support: >>=20 >> Is there really no way to synch an EDP or LP-1 with rhythm tracks = from Logic Pro, *and* control the looper with a MIDI footswitch (FC300) = ? >>=20 >> =95 The loopers both have MIDI in/out/thru. >>=20 >> =95 The FC300 has MIDI in/out. >>=20 >> =95 Logic from my MacBook is using an M-Audio MidiSport USB cable, = which has MIDI in/out. >>=20 >> I can get either clock from Logic into looper, or footswitch control = into looper, depending upon cable routing, but have not been able to get = both at the same time. >>=20 >> Thought I had a genius idea to use the LP-1 MIDI clock out to drive = Logic's BPM (instead of the reverse) only to find that Logic Pro 8 = cannot operate as a slave.. gah ! >>=20 >> Truly appreciative of any pointers. It's OK to point and laugh too. >>=20 >> Phil :) >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 08:43:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1451D183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 632237761/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.74/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.74 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak8CABQH/01YbR9K/2dsb2JhbAAMR5gSmDO+OoYqBJYwizA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,392,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="632237761" Message-ID: <4DFF0818.6020206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:43:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 References: <4DFDB012.20800@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-aBLHD.A.7RD.Xgw_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Alexandre Klinke wrote: > Thanks a lot for the replies! > Good to know about the latency problem on the yamaha. > I might have to buy that switch for the fcb then... Andy, do you know > if these guys ship to Canada? I dunnow, don't see why not. >> in Europe >> >> Office@PMS-electronics.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 08:49:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 920B9183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Reyn Ouwehand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--459932767 Subject: Re: Echoplex working, now sound is decreasing. Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:49:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <7D8A88AC-3F76-414B-9852-D9688D63E512@reyn.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QYaAQ-0001sl-7P X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.899, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:49:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--459932767 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Put the feedback to 100% On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:34 AM, Timothy Miller wrote: > We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, = for whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop = just kept decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions? >=20 > --=20 > Sincerely, > Tim --Apple-Mail-2--459932767 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Put the feedback to 100%

On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:34 AM, Timothy Miller wrote:

We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just kept decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions?

--
Sincerely,
Tim

--Apple-Mail-2--459932767-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 09:05:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D852183455; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Midiocracy From: jayrope LD In-Reply-To: <20110620015134.09315183464@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:05:45 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20110620015134.09315183464@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Logic after version 7 cannot be slaved to MIDI anymore (Apple emoved = that feature without telling anyone, seems, those developers have apples = in their heads, erm). As i have no LP1 i can't tell you how to activate MIDI slave mode for = this. Just make sure Logic sends clock to your MIDI interface.=20 Adjust project setting in Settings -> Synchronisation -> MIDI. Activate destination 1 there, then choose your MIDI interface from the = dropdown list below. If your MIDI interface doesn't appear there, make = sure all necessary drivers etc are properly istalled. Also, as stupid as = it sounds, check your cable connections between inetrface and LP1, if = you're sure the software side works. If you#re sure you got Logic an MIDI interface runnign well, then = connect it to another MIDI slaved device and just check if that one is = running with clock, If it does, then teh rest of trouble is within LP1. On another note: Get rid of Logic eventually. It's got an awful sound = (when you compare it to Cubase, Nuendo or Pro Tools HD). Feel free to email me privately, if any more questions. Best of luck. - - -=20 jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:51 AM, = Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > Midiocracy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 09:33:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC90E183460; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/+p7TwDhlupfcq8/NMQNmTsFoXWpWpvsgv4+FOrL6L0=; b=Y3jzh7ZJZqDVo5MBzAJYs8JTda18fnNeHEAgirJ2eVkg/FAUuVxFqc5IxU4GCjoRxf yjiWDtBsAtQLb2n0lMVMWh1rfpAGK8Uc0LxUsEEJWVoDQIqJ4IjwlgXRQIoE4ZVEPYzL ZkzWAfohB7pT5usjcwepFRSoxd4lsz/lMzGso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=q5mjHLHHHjBuB9jH4w+umHRpPrfYTfNUt1hptxU8MYJJG54DIJFMawZyyO1ZW2NbH7 SC4NRNCaE67AMONKrtJex5ZRBIFnrSKehnACdv3wZS6hg8JzJ5lF6sSt3SSi2/4FRdJH LPbJ9NR+xsv75Cda2LDHcgpecfKepRHT/kFB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:33:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex trouble From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:33:08 +0000 (UTC) I recall something like that happening once, im not sure but it might be in delay mode try puting it in loop mode and rotating the feedback knob good luck Luis On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Timothy Miller wrote: > Hey Keith, > > We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for > whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just kept > decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions? > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Timothy Miller > wrote: >> >> Keith, >> >> How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it when I owned it, >> so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say in the Echoplex >> manuel? >> >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith wrote: >>> >>> If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off. >>> Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm and >>> then re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become oxidized. >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be >>>> coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time troubleshooting. >>>> The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is what >>>> he has told me. >>>> >>>> *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them won't >>>> do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. >>>> >>>> *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up >>>> with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through >>>> it....just can't loop anything or press anything to change the buttons..? >>>> >>>> *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a >>>> bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all the >>>> buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. >>>> >>>> *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and different >>>> lights/letters are on. >>>> >>>> *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no >>>> luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and the >>>> LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least >>>> >>>> If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who >>>> can help, please let them know. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Tim >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Tim > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Tim > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 09:37:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF8D6183456; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 635548435/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.74/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.74 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak8CALIT/01YbR9K/2dsb2JhbAAMR5gS1w6GKgSWMIsw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,392,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="635548435" Message-ID: <4DFF14BC.3000900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:37:00 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Curious about Adobe Audition References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> <4DFCC3B6.50308@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:36:59 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > What on earth do you mean by that Andy? Its sounds frighteningly clever! > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > With the sample accurate alignment it's pretty much possible > to unmix the layers...given time and patience. Well, this is a real crisis management technique, based on phase cancellation. ...but say you have a a recording of a loop performance where you only have the stereo mix, and you need to get an overdub separated 1) cut out a section of the recording with the desired overdub 2) cut out a section of the recording just before the desired overdub 3) line them both up as parallel tracks in your multi-track editor 4) get the loops synced as best you can moving one against the other 5) Invert one of them. 6) fiddle with exact relative positioning till the backing loop fades 7) adjust relative levels if necessary 8) repeat 6 & 7 9) curse the fact that sample accurate isn't quite accurate enough to get perfect phase cancellation. should now have that overdub split from the loop I've actually used this technique to separate a solo from a looped backing, ..it will work. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 09:42:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32B30183459; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J5mNjyrEJosG3z2bDxL+AylfqNL4TpC4JX2zV+9xkRQ=; b=WfXY5g9D5i2clgvS17zGUCeoyZIp5xe3pR3o3VeK2dyvrtWfrnDAgouyGRAFPBlnX1 YVo/l+h2ncbWQXt6Si/3ZrmSDLncewdN0H7t820dtFNa2y2rVG0B7XxN/veRD4epcGxD +MxgKSB8PX4WJB6o8Hu/PbEEZX7wingGdsIwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hBwC7cCayf8LLxqEAj6+NCMFlGLZ+DgdjE8vQS2X1i2zOqaImrLKa8n294FdX5mYj4 K8VJkVhXVk/UppvDUfT6dPA4021Kkjcajj4NZzqeyfsKKmgLjg3abBC7Mn283ASOOeuz ICWTZYKVnAu0YZ5beqGfczHy6LlJVMFiD/ILs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <239253A0-0708-4927-8238-AB3B05C7BBF3@charter.net> References: <239253A0-0708-4927-8238-AB3B05C7BBF3@charter.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:42:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:42:56 +0000 (UTC) very nice Bill,wow the lapsteel looks awesome as well,look out Duesenberg! On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:40 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > Very nice Bill. > > You are the master. > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:45 PM, William Walker wrote: > >> =A0My dear friend Mando Man, =A0other wise known as Hideki Nakanishi bui= lt me >> an extraordinaire lap steel guitar =A0and today i posted an improvisatio= n =A0on >> youtube playing this amazing instrument, =A0also of note is that Ryusei >> Hattori did an amazing relief carving of the goddess Kannon on the >> headstock. and Leander Reininghaus =A0provided a rockinger made multi be= nder >> bridge to achieve individual string pulls like a pedal steel guitar. Tho= ugh >> i'm still getting my sea legs with the bridge, what I have found so far = is >> really inspiring. >> =A0Thanks and enjoy >> =A0Bill =A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8SIF__77B9k > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 09:46:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 145CB183462; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7fvorwPCoA2fpuNl8YQjy1fTSHwLmC2DGQYzAmNV7A4=; b=apvO1tXmFGZwO4g9qR3N5FRT/otMT3ATUNHlKDSOa2pLXVjw4NOI1p1MwUi3J2IbI+ M2d0cCFAvgPMaGU0iOYa1Ps1jAgZTelv2Rc88hTswvKV+3eoijU8ziFXuW+o7+j31vjt qr6tbvkqnE+bYSlXYngh0KGuNIrwYdhuBvdZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oW7+/eu9iDxr3GcY5qq99HOG60iVV1Ol7NMAecjBsG3gAYoyZ4JoaXC/AJh548Pzi/ saUoJJF8LJtmkgb5AvXGXdn8LXrVzv2wT6tWwSeDatqszHKpvRDmi/exXKnZ5rcSnNqX 5m0rzWpCkp/OYR0xpsyWYoReFBcnn7JbDY+rw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:46:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:46:37 +0000 (UTC) wonderful Ricky! On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > New sounds. I would appreciate your thoughts: http://snd.sc/lf6Ijb > Cheers, > > Ricky > http://rickygraham.com > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 10:08:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ADF0183460; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=tqaayi+5pLSaR0s7c+fWlyiyqCGuogj36BG4rBXwy3Y=; b=Cd5zgqDOvxIZFLoChypNw5B/JSr/QUFlUEZBuSjZz1mKghGElOtqBq3sZg9HXksjFK F7Oa+F3C/1qEbHRN0aUbK7tTH8/8lysgCSMzlCPiutUUcRXQD6Zw/u/rCHmOAu2LZKq/ GNLLv8Wpy8a6CTMbijTVS7Lk030ZTf7Xy7nV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=E7754TZiQwiGKCrwBCCM+aCbE86tZPrjJRJaE/o8MA7bPEb7Kct3RwqIF7z6Qt0Yph StchF+lV7K2nQZKbSnGKcJc2c4jjhncfDQA5tDleCRADEXqsBD9hccUq8MTR1YPRZGGy +W4LqrBFB2HllvWoyCgV3GiVqCpAk5sPxdfpw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4DFF14BC.3000900@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DFC7DE8.4080302@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFC8837.7080006@tiscali.co.uk> <407C516C-A8E3-4255-86AE-86A76FBB8C92@gmail.com> <4DFCC3B6.50308@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFF14BC.3000900@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:08:21 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6cJ29qYB-0At_IljH5vFSF0JSH8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Curious about Adobe Audition To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3040ee5488ea4204a621ebeb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:08:44 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3040ee5488ea4204a621ebeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ahh gotcha... THEN I know of what you speak... I use it all the time in video... (difference keying) but always assumed the audio equivalent would suck... but I guess I use this noise reduction technique all the time too.. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:37 AM, andy butler wrote: > mark francombe wrote: > >> What on earth do you mean by that Andy? Its sounds frighteningly clever! >> >> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, andy butler > akbutler@tiscali.co.uk**>> wrote: >> >> With the sample accurate alignment it's pretty much possible >> to unmix the layers...given time and patience. >> > > Well, this is a real crisis management technique, > based on phase cancellation. > > > ...but say you have a a recording of a loop performance > where you only have the stereo mix, > and you need to get an overdub separated > > 1) cut out a section of the recording with the desired overdub > 2) cut out a section of the recording just before the desired overdub > 3) line them both up as parallel tracks in your multi-track editor > 4) get the loops synced as best you can moving one against the other > 5) Invert one of them. > 6) fiddle with exact relative positioning till the backing loop fades > 7) adjust relative levels if necessary > 8) repeat 6 & 7 9) curse the fact that sample accurate isn't quite accurate > enough to > get perfect phase cancellation. > > should now have that overdub split from the loop > I've actually used this technique to separate a solo from a looped backing, > ..it will work. > > andy > > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf3040ee5488ea4204a621ebeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahh gotcha...
THEN I know of what you speak... I use it all the time in = video... (difference keying)=A0 but always assumed the audio equivalent wou= ld suck... but I guess I use this noise reduction technique all the time to= o..

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:37 AM, andy butle= r <akbutler@= tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
mark francombe wrote:
What on earth do you mean by that Andy? Its sounds frighteningly clever!
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.c= o.uk>> wrote:

=A0 =A0With the sample accurate alignment it's pretty much possible =A0 =A0to unmix the layers...given time and patience.

Well, this is a real crisis management technique,
based on phase cancellation.


...but say you have a a recording of a loop performance
where you only have the stereo mix,
and you need to get an overdub separated

1) cut out a section of the recording with the desired overdub
2) cut out a section of the recording just before the desired overdub
3) line them both up as parallel tracks in your multi-track editor
4) get the loops synced as best you can moving one against the other
5) Invert one of them.
6) fiddle with exact relative positioning till the backing loop fades
7) adjust relative levels if necessary
8) repeat 6 & 7 9) curse the fact that sample accurate isn't quite = accurate enough to
=A0get perfect phase cancellation.

should now have that overdub split from the loop
I've actually used this technique to separate a solo from a looped back= ing,
..it will work.

andy







--
M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--20cf3040ee5488ea4204a621ebeb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 12:21:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FB02183463; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DFF3B60.1050800@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:21:52 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Walker CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:21:57 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > My dear friend Mando Man, other wise known as Hideki Nakanishi built > me an extraordinaire lap steel guitar and today i posted an > improvisation on youtube playing this amazing instrument, also of > note is that Ryusei Hattori did an amazing relief carving of the > goddess Kannon on the headstock. and Leander Reininghaus provided a > rockinger made multi bender bridge to achieve individual string pulls > like a pedal steel guitar. Though i'm still getting my sea legs with > the bridge, what I have found so far is really inspiring. > Thanks and enjoy > Bill You know, Bill, after having seen this amazing instrument and hearing the truly beautiful and unique music that's been emanating from your garage/studio since you came into possession of it, it occurs to me: You and I have spent so many years experimenting with different global traditions in our music: How appropriate is it, that this guitar becomes a unique trans-global experience that could only occur in this particular epoch: Two Japanese artisans hand craft an experiment essentially designed by an American with Scottish, Danish and Cherokee roots, facilitated by a German musician and with an Indian Hindu deity, handcarved into the head stock. I've seen it and it's one of the most wonderful instruments I've ever seen..............truly one of a kind and priceless......... ..................Not unlike you! You deserve it and it deserves you. Bless Hideki, Ryusei and Leander for contributing to it's beauty and bless you for the artistry that you will (and have already) brought to it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 13:18:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F09BD183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ALpzGLQe3PL6i/9wDzh3DPAXbYT8UqKp4Q5a4hdzjcpTJ0qrtyNwetTL0tDqYDV/; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20110620015134.09315183464@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:17:51 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: M... idiocracy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-903546617==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79923e9ed43c0d010a5a32b8291554aba2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:18:02 +0000 (UTC) --============_-903546617==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Yep, sure.. and Ferrarri's are awful cars, always running into trees, and Stratocasters are unprofessional toys.. wank wank wank... ;-) > >On another note: Get rid of Logic eventually. It's got an awful >sound (when you compare it to Cubase, Nuendo or Pro Tools HD). >Feel free to email me privately, if any more questions. >Best of luck. >- - - >jayrope >http://www.kliklak.net > -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-903546617==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: M... idiocracy
Yep, sure.. and Ferrarri's are awful cars, always running into trees, and Stratocasters are unprofessional toys.. wank wank wank... ;-)



On another note: Get rid of Logic eventually. It's got an awful sound (when you compare it to Cubase, Nuendo or Pro Tools HD).
Feel free to email me privately, if any more questions.
Best of luck.
- - -
jayrope
http://www.kliklak.net



--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-903546617==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 14:38:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEBE6183465; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tF5/Ks2jr6IFEcar1KaF8hY/Xyj4SXOlGk4sBFYHzIk=; b=HAqLNMKCopzojBUw3ssLuQnJtddMwHbS65YIxzU99CmX74h6oMwySdzb3TDN0a9Uar eBsdpMbplS4DgPUvhlLOWHKX1zwZSBZA3PCHh6cK6wQw4XUWjD1YxEJnqvxO7uvSLc/V vDxhkZ7Wh9KeRBIG3Nu/nIk58pnUIz/nVUwPE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iT0VslKLyrI/o+PGcVoTLwRZDgqJiQka4yRTxuEmxz8WutnlQN9gFSAMySiYoDEA4d 78XF1xyMue797bGa5bYH9ZQrBKX2aC8vOT6+k0P+MaXsBwVsvvCQekGnMFUOBmHzywFn avYxw8vGcR0mLIVPUkg+2MzftaRcRGSx9hr8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1AC0DEA5-2B7D-4527-BD6C-08809E2A58FD@gmail.com> References: <9F968890-3DBD-4436-B41A-80E9527B63D1@gmail.com> <22457583-6147-4D99-BA2C-49459963EDBC@googlemail.com> <1AC0DEA5-2B7D-4527-BD6C-08809E2A58FD@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:38:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Midiocracy From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab454487e7a04a625b000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:38:32 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab454487e7a04a625b000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since you're using a computer, you should also be able to do the merge in the computer. Connect the footswitch to the MIDI interface, then have logic receive from that device and route what it receives to the same MIDI output it uses to send clocks. I don't know how to accomplish that in Logic but most big audio apps have a way to do this. The tradeoff compared to a MIDI merge box is that there will be a little extra latency added to the MIDI messages from the footswitch but it shouldn't be very much. It's worth a try before you spend money on a merge box. Jeff On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Phil Clevenger w= rote: > You know what, I *just* came across this: > > http://www.midisolutions.com/prodmrg.htm > > Nice to have your validation there, many THANK YOUS indeed :) > > Phil > > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:38 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > > > In all your searching I can't believe nobody has suggested the obvious > solution of simply using a midi merge box! > > > > Sent from my iPod > > > > On 20 Jun 2011, at 02:50, Phil Clevenger > wrote: > > > >> OK Looperati - > >> > >> After 3 days of tearing my hair out, researching on the web, and one > perplexing visit to a Guitar Center MIDI hotshot about a third of my age,= I > am crying 'uncle' and calling LD tech support: > >> > >> Is there really no way to synch an EDP or LP-1 with rhythm tracks from > Logic Pro, *and* control the looper with a MIDI footswitch (FC300) ? > >> > >> =95 The loopers both have MIDI in/out/thru. > >> > >> =95 The FC300 has MIDI in/out. > >> > >> =95 Logic from my MacBook is using an M-Audio MidiSport USB cable, whi= ch > has MIDI in/out. > >> > >> I can get either clock from Logic into looper, or footswitch control > into looper, depending upon cable routing, but have not been able to get > both at the same time. > >> > >> Thought I had a genius idea to use the LP-1 MIDI clock out to drive > Logic's BPM (instead of the reverse) only to find that Logic Pro 8 cannot > operate as a slave.. gah ! > >> > >> Truly appreciative of any pointers. It's OK to point and laugh too. > >> > >> Phil :) > >> > >> > > > > --0016e6dab454487e7a04a625b000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since you're using a computer, you should also be able to do the m= erge
in the computer. =A0Connect the footswitch to the MIDI inter= face, then
have logic receive from that device and route what it = receives to the
same MIDI output it uses to send clocks. =A0I don't know how to
accomplish that in Logic but most big audio apps have a way to do
this. The tradeoff compared to a MIDI merge box is that there will= be
a little extra latency added to the MIDI messages from the footswitch<= /div>
but it shouldn't be very much. =A0It's worth a try before= you spend
money on a merge box.

Jeff


On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:43 = AM, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
You know what, I *just* came across this:

http= ://www.midisolutions.com/prodmrg.htm

Nice to have your validation there, many THANK YOUS indeed :)

Phil


On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:38 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> In all your searching I can't believe nobody has suggested the obv= ious solution of simply using a midi merge box!
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On 20 Jun 2011, at 02:50, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK Looperati -
>>
>> After 3 days of tearing my hair out, researching on the web, and o= ne perplexing visit to a Guitar Center MIDI hotshot about a third of my age= , =A0I am crying 'uncle' and calling LD tech support:
>>
>> Is there really no way to synch an EDP or LP-1 with rhythm tracks = from Logic Pro, *and* control the looper with a MIDI footswitch (FC300) ? >>
>> =95 The loopers both have MIDI in/out/thru.
>>
>> =95 The FC300 has MIDI in/out.
>>
>> =95 Logic from my MacBook is using an M-Audio MidiSport USB cable,= which has MIDI in/out.
>>
>> I can get either clock from Logic into looper, or footswitch contr= ol into looper, depending upon cable routing, but have not been able to get= both at the same time.
>>
>> Thought I had a genius idea to use the LP-1 MIDI clock out to driv= e Logic's BPM (instead of the reverse) only to find that Logic Pro 8 ca= nnot operate as a slave.. gah !
>>
>> Truly appreciative of any pointers. It's OK to point and laugh= too.
>>
>> Phil :)
>>
>>
>


--0016e6dab454487e7a04a625b000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 15:02:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB1D9183453; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <47696838-AD28-431B-A374-6DCBBDBAD6C3@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:02:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:02:45 +0000 (UTC) beautiful and soothing thanks Ricky, did you put the synth pickup on yet? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 15:09:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6E2F183459; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7b6e3870-64c1-41f6-83e1-8e3f3512daea_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Kannon the Merciful Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:09:09 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2011 15:09:10.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[01FD0E80:01CC2F5C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:09:11 +0000 (UTC) --_7b6e3870-64c1-41f6-83e1-8e3f3512daea_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That sounds really=2C really GOOD.. :-) From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Kannon the Merciful Date: Sun=2C 19 Jun 2011 20:45:47 -0700 My dear friend Mando Man=2C other wise known as Hideki Nakanishi built me= an extraordinaire lap steel guitar and today i posted an improvisation o= n youtube playing this amazing instrument=2C also of note is that Ryusei H= attori did an amazing relief carving of the goddess Kannon on the headstock= . and Leander Reininghaus provided a rockinger made multi bender bridge to= achieve individual string pulls like a pedal steel guitar. Though i'm stil= l getting my sea legs with the bridge=2C what I have found so far is really= inspiring. Thanks and enjoy Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8SIF__= 77B9k = --_7b6e3870-64c1-41f6-83e1-8e3f3512daea_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That sounds really=2C really GOOD.. :-)

From: billwalker@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comSubject: Kannon the Merciful
Date: Sun=2C 19 Jun 2011 20:45:47 -0700
 =3BMy dear friend Mando Man=2C  =3Bother wise known as Hideki= Nakanishi built me an extraordinaire lap steel guitar  =3Band today i = posted an improvisation  =3Bon youtube playing this amazing instrument= =2C  =3Balso of note is that Ryusei Hattori did an amazing relief carvi= ng of the goddess Kannon on the headstock. and Leander Reininghaus  =3B= provided a rockinger made multi bender bridge to achieve individual string = pulls like a pedal steel guitar. Though i'm still getting my sea legs with = the bridge=2C what I have found so far is really inspiring.
 =3BTha= nks and enjoy
= --_7b6e3870-64c1-41f6-83e1-8e3f3512daea_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 15:46:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 483CF183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EG0F3xrF663p0DATSlkrAhWPuSVW2mrRedXchJMjHxs=; b=xVKogJ5DS4g47et4PTXFn1QD5gUSLGMsNyryy/yYlYcGrdUPzfyPMqaB7Z6kA/DUe/ 6w1ASH3iJ5sZF3AnzSp1NjlO2R6IAVoTgnmwexZYk5xWDeRBtk6O9GsH0QvavznmJvwU WN+H+YKf29TzSeqEBsyMQzhMAzqGsrI+rfwCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fM8ULAY4FGC8mpRW+GWpkUAwY9LNLK6yni9m1MhNrOLsrCZ0+BHd7TyKU91aYAYkwH 7fEzil5ECHRUWlGyzeHQnui8XHTdYfnK0ZX+SNTkssQbluTqfSwRV0uiinUHLdRMRSc/ 1iUmsHXBNUzI0PVYRsP2nEJwj5TYlyn0/Pf+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:46:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex trouble From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30363a012055e904a626a4d2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:46:40 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30363a012055e904a626a4d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This what he says: "Put the feedback to 100%...nothing happened, still sounds like it just delays til it fades away to nothing. Don't really know how to get it out of delay mode? (if thats the problem)" On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > I recall something like that happening once, im not sure but it might > be in delay mode try puting it in loop mode and rotating the feedback > knob > good luck > Luis > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Timothy Miller > wrote: > > Hey Keith, > > > > We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for > > whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just > kept > > decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions? > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Timothy Miller > > wrote: > >> > >> Keith, > >> > >> How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it when I owned > it, > >> so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say in the > Echoplex > >> manuel? > >> > >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith > wrote: > >>> > >>> If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off. > >>> Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm > and > >>> then re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become oxidized. > >>> > >>> Keith > >>> > >>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hey, > >>>> > >>>> I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be > >>>> coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time > troubleshooting. > >>>> The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is > what > >>>> he has told me. > >>>> > >>>> *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them > won't > >>>> do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. > >>>> > >>>> *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up > >>>> with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through > >>>> it....just can't loop anything or press anything to change the > buttons..? > >>>> > >>>> *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a > >>>> bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all > the > >>>> buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. > >>>> > >>>> *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and different > >>>> lights/letters are on. > >>>> > >>>> *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no > >>>> luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and > the > >>>> LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least > >>>> > >>>> If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who > >>>> can help, please let them know. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Sincerely, > >>>> Tim > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sincerely, > >> Tim > > > > > > > > -- > > Sincerely, > > Tim > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > -- Sincerely, Tim --20cf30363a012055e904a626a4d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This what he says:

"Put the feedback to 100%...nothing happened, stil= l sounds like it just delays til it fades away to nothing. Don't really= know how to get it out of delay mode? (if thats the problem)"<= br>
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Louie Angul= o <loui= e.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
I recall something like that happening once, im not sure but it might
be in delay mode try puting it in loop mode and rotating the feedback
knob
good luck
Luis

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Timothy Miller
<timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Keith,
>
> We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, f= or
> whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the lo= op just kept
> decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions?
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Timothy Miller
> <timothy.luke.mill= er@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Keith,
>>
>> How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it when I o= wned it,
>> so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say in th= e Echoplex
>> manuel?
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take t= he top off.
>>> Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2= or 3 mm and
>>> then re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become o= xidized.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller
>>> <timothy.l= uke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he see= ms to be
>>>> coming across problems with it that I am having a hard tim= e troubleshooting.
>>>> The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased = it. This is what
>>>> he has told me.
>>>>
>>>> *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressi= ng them won't
>>>> do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display.<= br> >>>>
>>>> *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop ar= e all lit up
>>>> with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments= through
>>>> it....just can't loop anything or press anything to ch= ange the buttons..?
>>>>
>>>> *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either = red....and a
>>>> bunch of green and red "e"s on the display scree= n. Trying to press all the
>>>> buttons, and all of them are unresponsive.
>>>>
>>>> *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, a= nd different
>>>> lights/letters are on.
>>>>
>>>> *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, stil= l no
>>>> luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights = come on, and the
>>>> LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the = least
>>>>
>>>> If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know = someone who
>>>> can help, please let them know.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Tim
>
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Tim
>



--
www.luis-angulo.co= m




--
Sincerely,
Ti= m
--20cf30363a012055e904a626a4d2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 17:50:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A10A1183462; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=cCyFmg/l8LeNf/nrZYg/JO0673DZGq4QeL+/WZ8DCQQ=; b=O0mF2K3l6DAt0tpQuQW4xfGKcZVXA5PfUPzSOWtUzzibknN50mUYRFoSWEZDMSNFcF Eb+CcL5CiG3IN/RxguVEXblvZMrvdXCfIuBmZqeB2VwpikNIVKr18eCwv4SelOq7CKzg NauVm80L1fTx6kSFdhTEeqsRP7EO4/kSDglKk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=YIU4X9dXZIyx4gvvqDwmCFbQcK0cxzDcVcps53+aa7fD66CHaILKYYrmhcVc6rb3b4 MC5mXOf/gyLDeYrTrLW+VQle4ia0XMJRxLzrSimxJGntXyrK1WtH11EPMjax9s3r6/Pa wOq/Z2TT1IwVDoPaKp+wjAUiXcqkiURZF+Gz0= Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex trouble References: From: Timothy Miller Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--427830923 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:44:00 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:50:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-15--427830923 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Another thing my customer pointed: And also, something else to note...The various instruments i have running th= rough the loop, all come out at different volumes (some not the same volume l= evel as when i looped them) some are louder, some are softer....There's no r= eal balance...Wondering if that is a problem with the loop... Keep in mind...im asking all these ?'s to not only fix the echoplex, but i'm= a traveling musician...and don't want these problems happening on the road o= r at a show... Sent from my iPhone On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Louie Angul wrote:= > I recall something like that happening once, im not sure but it might > be in delay mode try puting it in loop mode and rotating the feedback > knob > good luck > Luis >=20 > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Timothy Miller > wrote: >> Hey Keith, >>=20 >> We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for >> whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just ke= pt >> decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions? >>=20 >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Timothy Miller >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Keith, >>>=20 >>> How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it when I owned i= t, >>> so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say in the Echo= plex >>> manuel? >>>=20 >>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith wrote:= >>>>=20 >>>> If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off. >>>> Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm a= nd >>>> then re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become oxidized. >>>>=20 >>>> Keith >>>>=20 >>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller >>>> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hey, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be >>>>> coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time troublesho= oting. >>>>> The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is w= hat >>>>> he has told me. >>>>>=20 >>>>> *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them won'= t >>>>> do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. >>>>>=20 >>>>> *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up= >>>>> with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through >>>>> it....just can't loop anything or press anything to change the buttons= ..? >>>>>=20 >>>>> *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a= >>>>> bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all= the >>>>> buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. >>>>>=20 >>>>> *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and different= >>>>> lights/letters are on. >>>>>=20 >>>>> *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no >>>>> luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, and= the >>>>> LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least >>>>>=20 >>>>> If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who >>>>> can help, please let them know. >>>>>=20 >>>>> -- >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Tim >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Tim >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Tim >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-15--427830923 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Another thing my custom= er pointed:

And also, something else to note...The various instruments i have= running through the loop, all come out at different volumes (some not the s= ame volume level as when i looped them) some are louder, some are softer....= There's no real balance...Wondering if that is a problem with the loop...

Keep i= n mind...im asking all these ?'s to not only fix the echoplex, but i'm a tra= veling musician...and don't want these problems happening on the road or at a= show...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:33= AM, Louie Angul<louie.ang= ulo@googlemail.com> wrote:

I recall something like that happening once, im not sure b= ut it might
be in delay mode try puting it in loop mode and r= otating the feedback
knob
good luckLuis

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:34 A= M, Timothy Miller
<timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Keith,

We got t= he echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for
<= /blockquote>
whatever reason. He's running it= through a mixer>pa, and the loop just kept
decreasing in volume as it played over. Any sugges= tions?

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, T= imothy Miller
<timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:

Keith,

= How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it when I owned= it,
so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would= it say in the Echoplex
manuel?
<= br>
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

= If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off.<= /span>
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
Carefully, raise th= e two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm and
then re-seat them. this may help if the= contacts have become oxidized.

Keith=
=

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timo= thy Miller
<timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey,

=
I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be=
coming across problems with it that I am having a hard t= ime troubleshooting.
The problem sounds very similar to wh= en I first purchased it. This is what
=
he has told me.

*There are 4 buttons lit up on the fr= ont of it, and pressing them won't
do anything. There's a= lso nothing on the LED display.

=
*To= be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit up
with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments throu= gh
it....just can't loop anything or press anything to c= hange the buttons..?

=
*But every time i= turn it on....the mute button is either red....and a
bu= nch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press all the
buttons, and all of them are unresponsive.
=
*Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up= , and different
lights/letters are on.

*Alright. I have been messing around with it all day= , still no
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">luck....Every time i turn it on and off, diff= erent lights come on, and the
LED screen is different ea= ch time. Frustrating to say the least
=

If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who
can help, please let them know.

=
--
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
Sincerely,
Tim


=


<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
--
Sincerely,
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">Tim



--
Sincerely,
Tim




--
www.luis-angulo.= com

= --Apple-Mail-15--427830923-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 19:31:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65443183465; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vlbFISuE6KpbPGDtrdqv8idRPIZonhz6l0wm7LJW08A=; b=lpSh+wMOu0BmGOt3UqapGtOuO3oxMfehvkip8nMOJfRP0p0hCMnb6eaXQpM1yprn3a 0RhYoHWIA4h6Y/9clZ9P7C3mRGzHZbMrFjfv7OeoxE5RVelNKYeS/InpUuI5iG1e0ZOU Nt3HFw7sFz1tCOOeGmUcwlfQTwbT5lVBVvFIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cqe0LEnzpDc9wscms4/gooDt+76Ntu7zqkBqYk72+5MzXCzSpFnjR2Hh70L7W8ltcF SKeRXfwDirYvsVg5vXpz6kOEtQohNz0mI2PUkBikoVUSLna2q0rS00WhBYNy0Ul21Lx+ VTkh3NiB5m8u+AJwaWtkDy/mI1jKnfa9pbKkI= Message-ID: <4DFFA005.7050107@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:31:17 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> <143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <0sW2J.A.SIC.OA6_NB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, I missed the beginning of this: where's the action? When? Personally, I'd be preferring 21st (i.e. tomorrow) for my performance - who is scheduled so far? Tech platform? Matt - Café Noodle a possibility? Otherwise, I could quickly whip together something on my site if wanted... I'd not play that late - perhaps 2200 my time (which would translate to 2100 British/2000 UTC time) - but am open for suggestions there... Rainer > Stephen initially when I saw your note I was thinking the normal IF > Thur - Sat event time slot however that is askew of the 21st of > course. Naturally I can understand doing the feed on Solstice which > with my work schedule I doubt I can. I would be better suited for the > weekend. I'll check about IF taking your feed on Tuesday at 4 and get > back to -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 19:45:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B45A7183461; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6A81A143D6C4493C9A0E19A213E70BFD@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> <143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> <4DFFA005.7050107@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DFFA005.7050107@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:46:07 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:45:57 +0000 (UTC) I believe good ol' Jeff Duke has made the initiative for the IF span of Thurs-Sat. I'm also playing during this at midnight London time Friday. (Frantically putting video together). -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:31 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? Sorry, I missed the beginning of this: where's the action? When? Personally, I'd be preferring 21st (i.e. tomorrow) for my performance - who is scheduled so far? Tech platform? Matt - Café Noodle a possibility? Otherwise, I could quickly whip together something on my site if wanted... I'd not play that late - perhaps 2200 my time (which would translate to 2100 British/2000 UTC time) - but am open for suggestions there... Rainer > Stephen initially when I saw your note I was thinking the normal IF Thur - > Sat event time slot however that is askew of the 21st of course. > Naturally I can understand doing the feed on Solstice which with my work > schedule I doubt I can. I would be better suited for the weekend. I'll > check about IF taking your feed on Tuesday at 4 and get back to -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 20:44:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3666D183464; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0Rl+Ye2inc8XgZZNAXz4HwKzu76KRqK5vJwYH08k6dM=; b=DYq7D4mSiSZslnwFiH9rpryjL3QZk96cyGz3yq+LsQI6rTc/tLRT6bCl9zAlKH3B+V YubMH+yhXDisH7Nds0d920S/rNrPvjwKeC8BJQhki6qtior0Sk1IgFrkWaJAgH/F06oR 4qNkcwPsK4yvwRrnKgvwPZH0CG2/coEcvHMWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qXyyYTy1h0l2CnxvymQV3hmgSpzFPl8pwWOuDosu9FHwlNfOARu6J0btJMjdnJhCRw o6r1FpRa+qUwaOvTrOxQXkcg+2pHgCrcFQbussuKZIcsHuvrRRb1zMFA+vJI2cFLDwfi cAx/0/RpBIF2TbSUjhMP7vSKpa7PRWffNGhKo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <47696838-AD28-431B-A374-6DCBBDBAD6C3@baymoon.com> References: <47696838-AD28-431B-A374-6DCBBDBAD6C3@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:44:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:44:54 +0000 (UTC) @Louie Thanks Bro! :) @William - It's fitted. I'm going to test it out with the break out box kit this weekend. I'll let you know how it sounds. Cheers, Ricky On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > beautiful and soothing thanks Ricky, did you put the synth pickup on yet? > =A0Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 23:21:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 775C0183463; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NU7qCMhzOvOFo687MjyKR4CE5WukQiMlGRX/JWmbndA=; b=VJxD/Z4KNqdZRUMvlaDKcuXTtMLs7DFTN+3mLD2NTwb4M9ct7WV2XwJzbzhHbUyk0P y+YR0HVcnuqMQs3wYC9m/KZ0jJ0zFSbmgblQllKHRfIAtY77RMQ4VhdjJcM7jtAImdxt GShMGytl4OGS1wJyFEelZxumu+Td5XB2gGJmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a8xDFw+w9PptHTdV1aDfXbSNOcz0yfbuSpH5kp2JBQ/ntUhBQF6wJbNyDdw+ixkZHA sNLUKkZCiQ1lI5oFEO6n8YuQ5t1hRlA2v6N4un8xq5OIZSBWv33Rh7JeXG7jHQsUKn7c GdVxBlhOT37b0k/E6iF61h2wkZ3uGbuKFx1R0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 01:21:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex trouble From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:21:20 +0000 (UTC) i beleive you go into the parameter row "timing" and the press the record button and choose "loop" cheers Luis On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: > This what he says: > > "Put the feedback to 100%...nothing happened, still sounds like it just > delays til it fades away to nothing. Don't really know how to get it out of > delay mode? (if thats the problem)" > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> I recall something like that happening once, im not sure but it might >> be in delay mode try puting it in loop mode and rotating the feedback >> knob >> good luck >> Luis >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Timothy Miller >> wrote: >> > Hey Keith, >> > >> > We got the echoplex to work, but the volume is decreasing by itself, for >> > whatever reason. He's running it through a mixer>pa, and the loop just >> > kept >> > decreasing in volume as it played over. Any suggestions? >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Timothy Miller >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Keith, >> >> >> >> How do you reset it? I never made the attempt to reset it when I owned >> >> it, >> >> so I am unsure how to tell him how to reset it. Would it say in the >> >> Echoplex >> >> manuel? >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Keith Smith >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> If a reset doesn't work, I d suggest you unplug and take the top off. >> >>> Carefully, raise the two Loop Chips (the big ones), up about 2 or 3 mm >> >>> and >> >>> then re-seat them. this may help if the contacts have become oxidized. >> >>> >> >>> Keith >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Timothy Miller >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hey, >> >>>> >> >>>> I recently sold my Gibson Echoplex to a seller, but he seems to be >> >>>> coming across problems with it that I am having a hard time >> >>>> troubleshooting. >> >>>> The problem sounds very similar to when I first purchased it. This is >> >>>> what >> >>>> he has told me. >> >>>> >> >>>> *There are 4 buttons lit up on the front of it, and pressing them >> >>>> won't >> >>>> do anything. There's also nothing on the LED display. >> >>>> >> >>>> *To be specific, the Ins/Rev, Mute, Undo, and Next Loop are all lit >> >>>> up >> >>>> with a yellow light... I can control all of my instruments through >> >>>> it....just can't loop anything or press anything to change the >> >>>> buttons..? >> >>>> >> >>>> *But every time i turn it on....the mute button is either red....and >> >>>> a >> >>>> bunch of green and red "e"s on the display screen. Trying to press >> >>>> all the >> >>>> buttons, and all of them are unresponsive. >> >>>> >> >>>> *Every time i turn on/off...a different screen comes up, and >> >>>> different >> >>>> lights/letters are on. >> >>>> >> >>>> *Alright. I have been messing around with it all day, still no >> >>>> luck....Every time i turn it on and off, different lights come on, >> >>>> and the >> >>>> LED screen is different each time. Frustrating to say the least >> >>>> >> >>>> If there is anyone who might be able to help or they know someone who >> >>>> can help, please let them know. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Sincerely, >> >>>> Tim >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Tim >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Sincerely, >> > Tim >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Tim > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 20 23:40:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D07BF183462; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:40:59 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:47:38 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance Saturday 06. Lowell MA Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing video improvisations at 119 Gallery (my favorite perfomance space) at 8:30 PM ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR An evening of duets for 4 improvisers accompanied by Dr T's live video mix Performers Stephanie Lak - voice, bulbul tarang, other things Mike Dailey - drums Rick Breault - laptop Walter Wright - electronics Sets ::1:: (1) Stephanie & (2)Mike ::2:: (3) Rick & (4) Walter ::3:: (1) Stephanie & (3) Rick ::4:: (2) Mike & (4) Walter ::5:: (1) Stephanie & (4) Walter ::6:: (2) Mike & (3) Rick quartet (final set) 1,2,3,4 Stephanie, Mike, Rick, Walter $5 Donation appreciated 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 8:30 PM http://www.119gallery.org/ Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 01:05:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7A3A183462; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 01:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VZuoPWUj1eUgOvRVZoEtURsl+4YC7yjKuKDogpfr1wQ=; b=b/Xe8HO+u5fM8tKMTq1fpacVt37SILQIhP/LSGMykmX/lJDd+4wLtAoiQEfcNK5iGm lUNtaKhQ4+7GC/TYgDDMXEoAexSUq7u/JaVZbvnF4IJEDv6S3bQC9CHe9x7ld99bmaXi UYiGntIDh1kbMhu61vQ8Hit1ENCRtkCFQXD34= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G5pwMrZPzzP+gfv/yqyyWjcqzcVKDjUe9TcM81RtiHffvorEjTekXLippE9UdzUaKv jH3+49FXz+ucx3T4Sn2cFo9rToVFD+WE+yKdWdPI4b5QjJRM3OQbj/op+lUxmH0Q81Pe xvTimPUdcay25js1aoyggbIeGR6CwE1Apjmmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DFF0818.6020206@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4DFDB012.20800@tiscali.co.uk> <4DFF0818.6020206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:05:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: broken fcb1010, thinking about yamaha mfc10 From: Alexandre Klinke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 01:05:34 +0000 (UTC) will check that out, thanks! On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:43 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > Alexandre Klinke wrote: >> >> Thanks a lot for the replies! >> Good to know about the latency problem on the yamaha. >> I might have to buy that switch for the fcb then... Andy, do you know >> if these guys ship to Canada? > > I dunnow, don't see why not. > >>> in Europe >>> >>> Office@PMS-electronics.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 02:30:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E25B18345B; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3180BDD5-E1C5-48DE-B57D-2DE6AF45C343@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--396243980 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Mercy for Miyagi Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:30:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:30:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--396243980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another one on the new guitar, this one in a major key. I'm gearing up for a benefit show for Tsunami relief july 5th and I'm trying to promote it what ever way I can. Doing a live radio performance on KPIG radio this Sunday sometime between 10 am and 12 pm. if you want to find out more about the concert here is the facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=126236174125106 Here is the clip, for the gear geek minded I was running two separate signal paths, what i've been doing for a while in the studio at home. The guitar goes to an eb volume pedal and splits the signal, one side goes to an xotic ep-1 booster, a keeley looper selector that kicks in a hermida audio zen drive, a fulltone choralflange, and a line 6 M-9, and on to a princeton reverb and a vox ac10, for the most part I use two bluestone pro DI load boxes between the amps and the speakers, for direct speaker emulated outputs into my MOTU 2408, the other side goes to a keeley compressor, an ethos preamp, an Line 6 M-5, and an eventide timefactor, with both outputs feeding a DTAR solstice preamp I take two feeds from the solstice, one feeding directly in to the Motu, and the other feeding a borrowed UA preamp and on the the MOTU. The Looperlative is in the DTAR's effects loop and run all of its outputs master outs and AUX 1 to the MOTU and AUX to a TC fireworx if I want to send some tracks for real time post processing. The Fireworx connects to the MOTU via SPDIF. All of the effects processors are clock slaved to the LP-1. running parallel rigs gives a lot of options the best of which is running a clean side and a dirty side at once or a wet side dry side approach, with lots of options at mixing time. In these clips you are hearing the sound of my KRK 8's in the room the the Zoom Q3, enjoy and thanks for listening if you get a chance. Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXhOg8c4UO4 --Apple-Mail-3--396243980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another one on the new guitar, =  this one in a major key. I'm gearing up for a benefit show for = Tsunami relief july 5th and I'm trying to promote it what ever way I = can. Doing a live radio performance on KPIG radio this Sunday sometime = between 10 am and 12 pm. if you want to find out more about the concert =  here is the facebook page.
http://ww= w.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D126236174125106

= Here is the clip,  for the gear geek minded I was running two = separate signal paths,  what i've been doing for a while in the = studio at home. The guitar goes to an eb volume pedal and splits the = signal,  one side goes to an xotic ep-1 booster, a keeley looper = selector that kicks in a hermida audio zen drive, a fulltone = choralflange, and a line 6 M-9, and on to a princeton reverb and a vox = ac10, for the most part I use two bluestone pro DI load boxes between = the amps and the speakers, for  direct speaker emulated outputs = into my MOTU 2408, the other side goes to a keeley compressor, an ethos = preamp, an Line 6 M-5, and an eventide timefactor, with both outputs = feeding a DTAR solstice preamp I take two feeds from the solstice, one = feeding directly in to the Motu, and the other feeding a borrowed UA = preamp and on the the MOTU. The Looperlative is in the DTAR's effects = loop and  run all of its outputs  master outs and AUX 1 to the = MOTU and AUX to a TC fireworx if I want to send some tracks for real = time post processing. The Fireworx connects to the MOTU via SPDIF. All = of the effects processors are clock slaved to the LP-1. running parallel = rigs gives a lot of options the best of which is running a clean side = and a dirty side at once or a wet side dry side approach, with lots of = options at mixing time. In these clips you are hearing the sound of my = KRK 8's in the room the the Zoom Q3,
enjoy and thanks for = listening if you get a = chance.
Bill



<= div>http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DxXhOg8c4UO4
= --Apple-Mail-3--396243980-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 02:47:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 637EB183460; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:47:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Ricky, what break out box are you using? thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 02:49:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3FE183464; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hSPXidVJTxynLJTDrDrou1B0K7WGR5/3vdni8ifM1YM=; b=T5LEXK6TrlNR9LwYpxGv2Ox6+mH0vaPmj+fD1GvRDJHepS7Glc9ui7dEWE7MADKtZS ALjfpfDaOpwNu5AGyWcCXxzKQTsSD+VoUZzFexJBsDv2LqWjZqi/TMSBp/vIreT0uTIU UkJaHz9zwEq3h05Ux07CIF9PEZWUpdy6wIZJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HJFbqWfA3YG5gvGzQHphoA6oxkkxIDYZYjFw5g8nNv/25loNNeZWs9zdcu/wFb4QbB o/6eFBFKFTmVLU5kb66gGiMN6gGwSInNnwxIU7SRDiIbfMa3Dujs9yb1PEIymoPZbiXB 80CMN/z9nDl1KONPOgms+AivfodEQpMveO3tA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <47696838-AD28-431B-A374-6DCBBDBAD6C3@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:49:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51969570a25dd04a62fe869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:49:54 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51969570a25dd04a62fe869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ricky lovely textures, much like the waters between us all in this global community. Thinking everything from Roger Waters to Tears to Fears at times. Like the ebb/flow of it all. Jim On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Ricky Graham w= rote: > @Louie Thanks Bro! :) > > @William - It's fitted. I'm going to test it out with the break out > box kit this weekend. I'll let you know how it sounds. > > Cheers, > > Ricky > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, William Walker > wrote: > > beautiful and soothing thanks Ricky, did you put the synth pickup on ye= t? > > Bill > > > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec51969570a25dd04a62fe869 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ricky lovely textures, much like the waters between us all in this global c= ommunity. =A0Thinking everything from Roger Waters to Tears to Fears at tim= es. =A0Like the ebb/flow of it all. =A0Jim

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>= wrote:
@Louie Thanks Bro! :)

@William - It's fitted. I'm going to test it out with the break out=
box kit this weekend. I'll let you know how it sounds.

Cheers,

Ricky

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
> beautiful and soothing thanks Ricky, did you put the synth pickup on y= et?
> =A0Bill
>
>




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec51969570a25dd04a62fe869-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 04:16:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB97E183461; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 04:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Mercy for Miyagi References: <3180BDD5-E1C5-48DE-B57D-2DE6AF45C343@baymoon.com> From: richard sales Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-76--389832785 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: <3180BDD5-E1C5-48DE-B57D-2DE6AF45C343@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <8B8516D5-A947-4380-84F5-E284592AAEA1@glasswing.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:17:26 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: <2nrDOC.A.keH.asBAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 04:16:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-76--389832785 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nice stuff, Bil! Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 20, 2011, at 7:30 PM, William Walker wrote: > Another one on the new guitar, this one in a major key. I'm gearing up fo= r a benefit show for Tsunami relief july 5th and I'm trying to promote it wh= at ever way I can. Doing a live radio performance on KPIG radio this Sunday s= ometime between 10 am and 12 pm. if you want to find out more about the conc= ert here is the facebook page. > http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D126236174125106 >=20 > Here is the clip, for the gear geek minded I was running two separate sig= nal paths, what i've been doing for a while in the studio at home. The guit= ar goes to an eb volume pedal and splits the signal, one side goes to an xo= tic ep-1 booster, a keeley looper selector that kicks in a hermida audio zen= drive, a fulltone choralflange, and a line 6 M-9, and on to a princeton rev= erb and a vox ac10, for the most part I use two bluestone pro DI load boxes b= etween the amps and the speakers, for direct speaker emulated outputs into m= y MOTU 2408, the other side goes to a keeley compressor, an ethos preamp, an= Line 6 M-5, and an eventide timefactor, with both outputs feeding a DTAR so= lstice preamp I take two feeds from the solstice, one feeding directly in to= the Motu, and the other feeding a borrowed UA preamp and on the the MOTU. T= he Looperlative is in the DTAR's effects loop and run all of its outputs m= aster outs and AUX 1 to the MOTU and AUX to a TC fireworx if I want to send s= ome tracks for real time post processing. The Fireworx connects to the MOTU v= ia SPDIF. All of the effects processors are clock slaved to the LP-1. runnin= g parallel rigs gives a lot of options the best of which is running a clean s= ide and a dirty side at once or a wet side dry side approach, with lots of o= ptions at mixing time. In these clips you are hearing the sound of my KRK 8'= s in the room the the Zoom Q3, > enjoy and thanks for listening if you get a chance. > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxXhOg8c4UO4 --Apple-Mail-76--389832785 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Nice stuff, Bil!

Richard SalesSent from my IPad


On Jun 20, 2011, at 7:30 PM= , William Walker <billwalker@ba= ymoon.com> wrote:

<= div>Another one on the new guitar,  this one in a major key. I'm gearin= g up for a benefit show for Tsunami relief july 5th and I'm trying to promot= e it what ever way I can. Doing a live radio performance on KPIG radio this S= unday sometime between 10 am and 12 pm. if you want to find out more about t= he concert  here is the facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D1262= 36174125106

Here is the clip,  for the g= ear geek minded I was running two separate signal paths,  what i've bee= n doing for a while in the studio at home. The guitar goes to an eb volume p= edal and splits the signal,  one side goes to an xotic ep-1 booster, a k= eeley looper selector that kicks in a hermida audio zen drive, a fulltone ch= oralflange, and a line 6 M-9, and on to a princeton reverb and a vox ac10, f= or the most part I use two bluestone pro DI load boxes between the amps and t= he speakers, for  direct speaker emulated outputs into my MOTU 2408, th= e other side goes to a keeley compressor, an ethos preamp, an Line 6 M-5, an= d an eventide timefactor, with both outputs feeding a DTAR solstice preamp I= take two feeds from the solstice, one feeding directly in to the Motu, and t= he other feeding a borrowed UA preamp and on the the MOTU. The Looperlative i= s in the DTAR's effects loop and  run all of its outputs  master o= uts and AUX 1 to the MOTU and AUX to a TC fireworx if I want to send some tr= acks for real time post processing. The Fireworx connects to the MOTU via SP= DIF. All of the effects processors are clock slaved to the LP-1. running par= allel rigs gives a lot of options the best of which is running a clean side a= nd a dirty side at once or a wet side dry side approach, with lots of option= s at mixing time. In these clips you are hearing the sound of my KRK 8's in t= he room the the Zoom Q3,
enjoy and thanks for listening if you get= a chance.
Bill



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= --Apple-Mail-76--389832785-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 07:58:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C909183462; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 632462487/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnoCACtOAE5YbR49/2dsb2JhbAAMSIRJk1PGcZESgSuDdYEKBJY6izM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,399,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="632462487" Message-ID: <4E004F0C.1030904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:58:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex trouble References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-_Kqp.A.gWB.J8EAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Any new owners of an edp would do well to go through the factory reset procedure: "Hold down the PARAMETERS button while powering the unit on." This will return all settings to default state, much easier for tech support and to 'know what's going on in general". Timothy Miller wrote: > Another thing my customer pointed: > > And also, something else to note...The various instruments i have > running through the loop, all come out at different volumes (some not > the same volume level as when i looped them) some are louder, some are > softer....There's no real balance...Wondering if that is a problem with > the loop... It's not a problem with the loop. If the customer is using different acoustic instruments it *is* quite difficult to send the right amount of sound to the looper. Needs practice to get mic position right. What helps is getting a good balance of loop volume to live playing volume. If loop is loud, then layers will build up volume too quickly, if loop is quiet new layers will disappear. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 08:27:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DC24183465; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vLgxEhGg/cX+0seFy00Mc5sm6583vKmytxl5YTmQIhs=; b=bpFekOjlaem25GXORBdaBPk1KoPSClbBB7SlGYWvYCH3uGNOho0RskGdkbOOxkRccJ Ww0YjQBo2doQCiwQcKFU28e7NUAepH4o8hwEbMnQMa7dD5kOWvdgWwITB661FX/Ho+0X +a2tNCTgu1czwdWECkWOqhWDEzL/LekjKNlIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=oW2vABpd0PPDIe3n4WZ9/jTCGunBQjR2HXbY1Sb+K243Go5i++TMhYOYVo7jx8eKB6 Ihv80qUYP4etMBzfDP7FP06hOYGrljaOrvNBe1f8h3ArgdSEruJO7PmFVgBheXFr6VkW SJCHCS31NK/JXR3u/cuAWPlGUz06jh1OIYX4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3180BDD5-E1C5-48DE-B57D-2DE6AF45C343@baymoon.com> References: <3180BDD5-E1C5-48DE-B57D-2DE6AF45C343@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:27:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mercy for Miyagi From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd28720628eea04a6349e2d Resent-Message-ID: <1B5vWD.A.OqB.hXFAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:27:13 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd28720628eea04a6349e2d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 gorgeous, bill. as always, a pleasure to hear sim On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:30 AM, William Walker wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXhOg8c4UO4 > --000e0cd28720628eea04a6349e2d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable gorgeous, bill. as always, a pleasure to hear

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--000e0cd28720628eea04a6349e2d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 09:06:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9361E183464; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XSxzROGNRewT+6BfiG39L4WVYDj/AkqhvbWq93G7h64=; b=cwprGmIGFr6jIbd7Ta3Epz90vfSwB+471ToRixOPVdpyHfIfEVzPCrTLDbF+C7hcHC IRBVE4Fa5R/9FTbNHw4sAOonDAu2QKpMNo9ZPksc8k6qKq5Hbhcl7JHYJsFuNdTaOASj tQoFgz1i/2NzwhKrgGH5ElhZbtrH0yUqmzHIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HXwy8BLucqRYdQmQDWtJiWppw3eL3+J35FsdKoS8OiqlM/QRrK5zOntS/5uLFUNL4R ZbOKzx7xuK8oaq3Dc2LgVOR9lCInQbaDRfomsZUKprp8F7iXjQ291LjNQNcBjhtRnr/w S6U5BvUNUmf0s2clYN6Vo0hN63+TUJ4lhEoJ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <47696838-AD28-431B-A374-6DCBBDBAD6C3@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:06:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4PcjcD.A.aBC.77FAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:06:03 +0000 (UTC) @Jim Thanks! @Bill We're developing affordable kits at the moment: http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011 On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Ricky lovely textures, much like the waters between us all in this global > community. =A0Thinking everything from Roger Waters to Tears to Fears at > times. =A0Like the ebb/flow of it all. =A0Jim > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: >> >> @Louie Thanks Bro! :) >> >> @William - It's fitted. I'm going to test it out with the break out >> box kit this weekend. I'll let you know how it sounds. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ricky >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, William Walker >> wrote: >> > beautiful and soothing thanks Ricky, did you put the synth pickup on >> > yet? >> > =A0Bill >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 09:36:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C98C18345E; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lu/qScWvaEBlGvcI4yJGSRgFEqeqAxz+FZnjtkvEQ+g=; b=whzgwMiZ+JUZX0n9zGJ+GNCGBXoR6SxZ5J68jVrlagDJ854GKapcpRBAxH7gu5U42d QrzLq31ipRVHrE9VqrjjVPYQCpBY4z2B/rc3vFq+7VLQwlWvZFeRwA+pd1G0mm8d+a/d rHej16rpRSwqnNXY2LUnuuLoA9hXv1n8/yoA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hU+ubX4cNyXozCABosUuUDvnhYpnUJ3RqrhME5tJ3keKSvq7pMklEG4arbW1ogqYpT o9Ur8gxSFJuCGy39pZzn3CDpiyENBaQr+t+kxxQHU9oc4RyWqh28gSzuxTlpeh1mycHG X0kc2P1XkDW1WAZXbWEaueoFxOlvcgGG3WgOc= References: <47696838-AD28-431B-A374-6DCBBDBAD6C3@baymoon.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:36:25 +0200 Message-ID: <3726754039257363648@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_bVJ7.A.eXC.tYGAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Count me in on one of the kits Ricky!!! Looks amazing.. I wonder how simple it would be to sum various combinations of strings? Specifically 1-3-2 or 2-2-2... 6 outs i could use a mixer with, and would want, however a 2 or 3 channel guitar signal would be a bit simpler...? Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 21 Jun 2011, at 11:06, Ricky Graham wrote: > @Jim Thanks! > > @Bill We're developing affordable kits at the moment: > http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011 > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jim Goodin wr= ote: >> Ricky lovely textures, much like the waters between us all in this globa= l >> community. Thinking everything from Roger Waters to Tears to Fears at >> times. Like the ebb/flow of it all. Jim >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Ricky Graham >> wrote: >>> >>> @Louie Thanks Bro! :) >>> >>> @William - It's fitted. I'm going to test it out with the break out >>> box kit this weekend. I'll let you know how it sounds. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Ricky >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, William Walker >>> wrote: >>>> beautiful and soothing thanks Ricky, did you put the synth pickup on >>>> yet? >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin= & >> Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 10:43:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51F7A183453; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E+ziYW4vzMf+rQ0+sR703CFO2uW5yxapJBAqbOGuOtU=; b=vW9GJs2tms52d94+tgp/H4I5Q0nlCE3gJhNNoM0kaGw6hGvmxJNCFIcCeyJdCL+OGN 8ogdawqCR5SmR6k89RAlmw0GpQ79DDcV0h4A9L+Ov3J1OQY2WJ9DNFFPwDp7rm9KWL68 aDA5sNgiQh8Cb7DPsStP0eQx6FLaDM8XZPxPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RxOVwbPs1LlSzGlWViC9aUETEl3Q9roUBsMpw/vESS8bwav4DwZK9A8jVK38omNen3 DSxhjZYRi9dzbZsdTmC8Zn0WtfWNqh5RhpnP8Uu5qReANXlGRWHPK8Faor6X4EVkjcQ5 7h6daOGaGzAPGTZla90P+pfhrcHI42fzyw7l0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <577840.40943.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:43:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071c812a0a0c304a636849e Resent-Message-ID: <5KIkB.A.9AD._WHAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:43:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071c812a0a0c304a636849e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Listening to it right now, Steve. Interesting project indeed, I'm sure it's a lot to learn musically speaking to get the "voices" conterpoint nicely. Let me know when your release will come out. Best wishes - f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/6/16 Steve Uccello > Hi Loopers! > > Just wanted to share a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's 'Atalanta > Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document in history > including 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be enjoyed > simultaneously. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, medieval > flavor, and I went for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' interpretatio= n. > > For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty > Looperlative 1. > > I basically did a live looping approach in my home studio, layering the > fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the LP-1 to a lapto= p > as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or editing. It = was > awesome to be able to record with such a high sound quality all at the to= uch > of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 voiced =91BASS CHOIR=92 co= mprised > of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC FRETTED BASS, and ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS= . > > 'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is set to > release this in December. Our intention is to create a fine book that > includes a CD along with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=92s plan= ning > to create 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the original 5= 0. > > After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. Thoug= h > the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended by Maier, I hope > that sharing the music might be of interest to any interested in music wi= th > alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or fine books. Here is a link t= o > all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud', > > http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets > > Hope you enjoy them! Steve uccello > > --20cf3071c812a0a0c304a636849e Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Listening to it right now, Steve.
Interesting project indeed, I'm sure=A0it's a lot to learn mus= ically speaking to get the "voices"=A0conterpoint nicely.
Let me know when your release will come out.
Best wishes
=A0
- f


=A0
2011/6/16 Steve Uccello <stevebassbird@yahoo.com>
=A0Hi Loopers!

Just wante= d to share a project I'm working on: Michael Maier's 'Atalanta = Fugiens' (1617) -probably the first multi media document in history inc= luding 50 fugues, 50 emblems, and 50 epigrams, meant to be enjoyed simultan= eously. Though composed in 1617, they have a droney, medieval flavor, and I= went for a kind of 'Black Sabbath meets Bach' interpretation.

For the entire tracking process of all 50 fugues I used my trusty Loope= rlative 1.

I basically did a live looping approach in my home studio= , layering the fugues up one part at a time, then I recorded it from the LP= -1 to a laptop as a stereo track into Digital Performer. No punching in or = editing. =A0It was awesome to be able to record with such a high sound qual= ity all at the touch of my feet! (thanks Bob!!) The ensemble is a 3 voiced = =91BASS CHOIR=92 comprised of BOWED UPRIGHT BASS, ELECTRIC FRETTED BASS, an= d ELECTRIC FRETTLESS BASS.

'Clarified Birds' my group with visual artist J.F. Uccello is s= et to release this in December. Our intention is to create a fine book that= includes a CD along with it. Joe will be toiling at length as he=92s plann= ing to create 50 emblems of his own inspired by and based upon the original= 50.

After the tracking was done, the audio was mastered by Robert Rich. Tho= ugh the fugues are only 1/3 of the total experience intended by Maier, I ho= pe that sharing the music might be of interest to any interested in music w= ith alchemical aspects, bowed bass, looping, or fine books. =A0Here is a li= nk to all 50 fugues streaming on 'soundcloud',

http://soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets

Hope you enjoy them= ! Steve uccello


--20cf3071c812a0a0c304a636849e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 12:36:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A1A518345B; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9A2EA6E6-B69D-48BF-A22A-1DB63E7CC0F9@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--359885602 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:36:36 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa01b; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:36:36 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:36:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--359885602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How extremely musical! On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:45 PM, William Walker wrote: > Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SIF__77B9k Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-8--359885602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How extremely = musical!

On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:45 PM, = William Walker wrote:



= --Apple-Mail-8--359885602-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 13:39:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00608183462; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=N0IgJ97WoIQ6GFK/J2h/Y2a/ZvX3zJA2GwyDWOOrLoM=; b=VQDEGnv0c1pN7RiXDuZGDjsM31Ph7FgiylvLc18qA50VENOR32+FVT675kuWkEnXfp 6T6HMMyZvGShFsonIpQIh4LAuseFOIxy83LcvkfTSfKEw0rmwXN0+fXTLQzrPbeKD3ul VSHbrul3sN+f3HcXA//BuaGRZswi25JVYpRYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=uuIO8lO8mtwkqr8vp6jGJ7d3dLtMyghsG4V1EcQ99ej9U6qti7heIoCBGdxtfYKm+J JbT6bR0qFIT/pxOwFO4HEAJevJDidoUBuBDdw7zIIcsORuD5oAnGsttxnjzE49vJKT1r allZSPrariFpjJGM6caXMuaYgPETERdvbvLs8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9A2EA6E6-B69D-48BF-A22A-1DB63E7CC0F9@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <9A2EA6E6-B69D-48BF-A22A-1DB63E7CC0F9@sea.plala.or.jp> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:38:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YMeCghm-sMPSdGVUnC_lzab-gpY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8ed2df959204a638f989 Resent-Message-ID: <7k1SO.A.I1E.87JAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:39:08 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8ed2df959204a638f989 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fantastic as usual Bill. For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? You seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative pitch shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?... Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on the edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly replacing chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I have 2 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness. love from Norge Mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SIF__77B9k -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8ed2df959204a638f989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fantastic as usual Bill.

For us Non-looperlative people (fools, lose= rs and people with large overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving = the key change stuff? You seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using = some looperlative pitch shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch = shifter?...

Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on the = edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly replaci= ng=20 chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I have 2=20 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness.


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--90e6ba6e8ed2df959204a638f989-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 13:41:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15D6918345B; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kVjVYQkmrHSq+JAX/YQd2ga1nAmsq15jsmRM00he3Hk=; b=mzeOiWIXX0XBVDhJ4l4wAOXvBzRqmIY5FggnQBV2BAF+rVrEWwP9Oz20kJFCZtzPLR 1+BmT1zfos0kNMHEpKFLISFS5YNVlHfMLMl0t+SN8MMRFKYnd16tGS0ul5LjbXMyhqfS pIQxe/VCD37WgE+o3cr6eLuhe7qffvpkbUhgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jOCcw9MkHb/zc/i1I+XmgLSwHpFxPLZOknfzO9vqmpWL9AnRDIOyXzIYaZs6kulw4N FcjJkv/x5P3B8ajyZH1MGj+HloCB+eoz4ocxYZJT29jRLkLyE2MaLps4aT9MQBTFQ5JT 8QcbudyFu1Me1sqT4V4brHDtPNt1+MaKpaLHo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3726754039257363648@unknownmsgid> References: <47696838-AD28-431B-A374-6DCBBDBAD6C3@baymoon.com> <3726754039257363648@unknownmsgid> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:41:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:41:50 +0000 (UTC) @Mark - Any summation is quite simple. How you wire your audio output is entirely up to you. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Count me in on one of the kits Ricky!!! Looks amazing.. I wonder how > simple it would be to sum various combinations of strings? > Specifically 1-3-2 or 2-2-2... 6 outs i could use a mixer with, and > would want, however a 2 or 3 channel guitar signal would be a bit > simpler...? > > Mark > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 21 Jun 2011, at 11:06, Ricky Graham wrote= : > >> @Jim Thanks! >> >> @Bill =A0We're developing affordable kits at the moment: >> http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011 >> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jim Goodin w= rote: >>> Ricky lovely textures, much like the waters between us all in this glob= al >>> community. =A0Thinking everything from Roger Waters to Tears to Fears a= t >>> times. =A0Like the ebb/flow of it all. =A0Jim >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Ricky Graham >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> @Louie Thanks Bro! :) >>>> >>>> @William - It's fitted. I'm going to test it out with the break out >>>> box kit this weekend. I'll let you know how it sounds. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Ricky >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, William Walker >>>> wrote: >>>>> beautiful and soothing thanks Ricky, did you put the synth pickup on >>>>> yet? >>>>> =A0Bill >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n & >>> Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds >>> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >>> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >>> >>> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 14:34:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B2FD183460; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 632779820/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAEmqAE5YbR49/2dsb2JhbAAMPQvRFp9mgySDBgSWOosz X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,401,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="632779820" Message-ID: <4E00ABE9.4030001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:34:17 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 Review Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 Review The first thing to note when reviewing any loop device is that experienced users are notoriously fussy about which features are available, and how easy those features are to access. That may make for a lot of negative comments so first thing to say is that I'm already a happy explorer of the device, and certainly plan to use it in performance. I've tried to point out what is easy to do with the VDL-1 and what sounds great, while giving some idea of how it's not always easy to access functions What is it? It's a stomp box looper with two available loops, and a limited facility for pre and post loop effects. XLR input for dynamic microphone (no phantom power). No midi, and mono operation. No loop storage. No feedback control. 80s longest loop. 90s time divided between two loops. Built in multi-function expression pedal. Reasonably priced £199, $250, EUR239 Who might want it? Beginners to looping. Loopers looking to upgrade from an entry level device with one loop. Experienced loopers looking for a portable alternative to their large rig. Sonic experimenters who like oddball gear. First thing to do with a new looping device is plug it in, you'll have no problems tapping in that first loop, just 2 presses of the same easily accessible foot-switch ("Rec/Play/Overdub"). A second switch ("Stop")lets you stop the loop with a press, and once stopped if you hold the switch down the loop is erased. Hence to re-record a loop that you're not happy with is far from a seamless process, and very far from the ideal of simply being able to hit a switch that starts a new recording right away. Another slight down point is that the loop won't stop until you release the switch, not a problem when you get used to it. Once stopped the loop can be restarted with the Rec/Play/Overdub switch. There's also three alternate "Stop Modes" available if you don't want the loop to stop right away, either it can play to it's end before stopping, the loop can fade or the loop can stop a with delay applied. I didn't think those modes added much with the fades not sounding very smooth. A third switch ("Trigger/Tap") let's you re-trigger the loop from the start, quite an advanced feature which is very welcome. Going back to the Rec/Play/Overdub switch you can overdub on a loop that's playing. Vox claim that infinite overdubs are possible without loss of quality, but this is not the case, the simple test of leaving the Overdub on while the loop plays shows significant degradation of the loop after 20 repeats or so. As there's no feedback control the "infinite" claim is highly misleading, and the fact that feedback isn't dropped automatically during overdub shows that Vox didn't do their research on this matter (other manufacturers have been doing that for years). On the plus side the Overdub has an Undo and Redo function which will work even on the longest loop times. However many layers you make in an overdub it's possible to cancel them all at once, and then bring them back at will. Once you start a new overdub the old one is either lost, or permanently added to the backing. The forth (and last) button ("Program Up")has to be held down to achieve this, luckily it's still possible to get timing accurate as the Undo or Redo doesn't occur until you release the switch (full marks to Vox for thinking about this). So, this is not a looper which will allow to continuously add layers, rather one which let's you control distinct overdubs. Already we've see a couple of instance where a foot-switch doesn't operate as soon as it's pressed. This may seem pointless but in fact it's necessary in order to control a lot of functions from just 4 foot-switches. Most significant of those extended functions is the ability to switch to a second loop with all the features of the first. To get to loop 2 you need to press 2 buttons simultaneously, not as easy as you'd like and needing a sensible approach to footwear, but easily mastered with practice. If loop1 is running when loop 2 is recorded then loop 2 will be adjusted automatically so it's length is a multiple of loop1. That's a very welcome feature which you might expect on a much advanced product, but which works in a slightly different way. Standard practice is to always round up the length of the new loop so you don't lose any of your new material, whereas the Vox will round to the nearest fit. A bit surprising but not a problem. If you've just record something without rhythm in loop 1, and want to create a tight groove on loop2 that's possible too. Just end the recording by hitting the Trigger/Tap switch and the rounding is disabled. Another option is to use the onboard metronome. For timing practice this has an audible sound which can be adjusted in volume, and also some of the pre and post loop effects are synced to it. Once the metronome is started by tapping the Trigger/Tap button in your favoured timing any loops recorded will sync their length to the specified bar length, which can be anything from 1 to 100 beats. The metronome sound probably isn't something you'd want to be hearing unless you're doing timing practice, so to get your timing for the loops it's easy enough to engage one of the time synced pre-fx as a guide. More about them later. The default metronome bar length is one, and with that setting it's very easy to set up loops 1 and 2 in a poly-rhythmic relationship. This is something that a lot of the more sophisticated users will like. Generally once you've switched away from a loop you lose control of it, but there's a couple of extras available in this respect. If the current loop is stopped, a second press of the Stop/Start Button will stop the other loop. To start both loops at once you can hold down the Stop button and hit Rec/Play/Overdub. Do that same combination when the current loop is playing and you can start the other to play with it...and with a few hours practice of that manoeuvre you'll even get the two loops in time with each other. This is very welcome if a bit awkward, and there's also the worry that holding Stop for a fraction too long will erase your loop. There's no way to stop the unselected loop while the selected one is playing, and there's no way to stop both loops simultaneously. So, what can you do with the two loops, here's what Vox say:"This two-loop design opens up complex and highly original performance techniques, such as switching between phrases of different lengths, or containing different chord patterns." Well, that's actually somewhat misleading as it makes you think that it's easy to play the loops serially in a structure such as ABAAB. I asked Vox tech support how to achieve this, and their answer runs like this: 1) Press the STOP MODE button a few times until the GREEN mode is selected 2) Start recording on LOOP1 and then press REC/STOP/OVERDUB to stop recording and start playing back 3) Press STOP (which set LOOP1 to play until the end and then stop) 4) Move onto LOOP2 and press REC/STOP/OVERDUB (when LOOP1 stops playing at the end of recording) to start recording LOOP2 In the case above, LOOP2 can have a completely different length or chord progression. You should then be able to seamlessly switch between the LOOPs by pressing STOP before moving onto the other LOOP. I'd have to say I didn't consider that to be "switching between phrases", more like "you can start one loop when the other stops automatically as long as you're very quick and accurate with your feet". It's a real shame Vox didn't do a bit more work on this which after all is a feature that most other manufacturers seem to be able to provide. I did find other ways of going from loop to loop, including a simple improvement to the above instructions, but nothing easy enough for someone who simply wanted to create a simple verse chorus structure. One extra point about the two loops, the Undo/Redo function on each is totally independent. You could make an overdub on loop1, undo it, go to loop 2 and repeat the undo/redo process as much as you like...then come back to loop1 and Redo *that* overdub. Albeit in a limited way it's bit like having 4 tracks available! The loop fx accomplish more than you would be able to do by simply running a loop pedal into an fx unit, about half of them are specific to looping. "Volume". Here the pedal can be selected to control volume of either just the current loop, both loops or everything being output. In itself that's handy, but as switching on any post effect engages the Resample things get suddenly very interesting. When you Resample a loop (hit REC/STOP/OVERDUB) you can make the length an exact multiple(hit REC/STOP/OVERDUB again) or any odd length you like, including just picking a small section of the loop (hit Trigger/Tap). On a high end loop device this would be called Multiply, it's one of the most useful loop techniques available and this is the first time it's been seen on a device at this price point. Additionally, if you've synced the loops to the metronome then re-sample can be used to change time signature easily and accurately. Volume as a re-sampled effect also allows you to mix both loops onto one, after which it automatically stops the non-current loop for you. That's a nice touch, as you don't want that loop to continue once it's been re-sampled. Obviously a re-sample eradicates any overdubs waiting to be Redone. What's missing, of course, is any other way to control the volume of the loops. In practise you can learn to play at the right volume so the mix works out, but this is the first loop pedal I've found not to offer such a basic requirement. "Cross-Fade" lets you fade from on loop to the other, and again it's re-sampling that makes this very interesting. "Reverse" works in one of two ways, controlled by the foot-pedal. As you'd expect, you can simply send the loop into reverse from it's current position, but also you can cross fade between forwards and backwards versions. That second option is great if yo don't want to put one loop out of sync with the other. It's not possible to go directly to reverse on the completion of recording a loop. "Speed" gives you double speed and half speed playback, up or down an octave, and also does time stretching over the same range. It isn't possible to switch the speed instantaneously so a half speed loop1 is still in time with a regular loop 2 because of the pedal control which sweeps through the octave range. "Loop-in-Loop" will repeat a short chunk of the loop from the current position. Sadly this doesn't time sync with the loop, only with the metronome, so to make full use of it you have to record using the metronome (see above). "Pitch". The default setting, heel down on the pedal produces no pitch change, pushing the pedal into the mid range gives you a 4th up, and toe down gives you a 5th up. Sound quality is as good as could be expected for a pitch shift that can work on a polyphonic signal and this really is very usable in a looping context, although the temptation to turn that riff into a 12 bar blues is maybe too great. There are some other pitch combinations available, as well octaves up or down as a whammy effect or by semitones. "Scrub" I know there's folk who are going to love this. Regular playback is suspended and playback is of repeated chunks of sound taken from a place in the loop based on the position of the pedal. Chunk size is variable by a knob (after hitting loop fx button). Like all post-fx it's possible to resample the result. "Stutter" Harsh gating synced to the metronome. "Mod" a flanger. Pedal controls resonance. "Filter" Low pass, high pass, band pass selectable. Pedal controls frequency. With variable Q over a small range. "Delay" synced to metronome, pedal controls delay volume and feedback together. If you stop the loop, the delays stop abruptly. Turning off the loop fx can be done by hitting Retrigger/Tap. Unfortunately this also has the result of retriggering the loop with a noticeable delay, a bit of a concern for anyone needing rhythmic accuracy. This is surprising, as ordinarily the Retrigger doesn't have this problem. One alternate method to switch off loop fx is to use the loop fx button (fingers only), but I found that switching to a new preset (Program Up) works best. In this case the loop isn't re-triggered. ..and so on to the pre-effects, concentrating more on those that are useful for looping. Like the loop fx, these aren't very tweakable, certainly less so than you'd expect in all but the cheapest of multi-fx. However there's some gems here if you're prepared to work your way through. "Pedal". Pedal controls volume, with options for fixed preset Compression, Overdrive(sic), Crunch, Distortion. Only adjustment available is a volume( in addition to pedal). In any case, when when pre-fx are switched off pedal can always control volume. "Wah" model of Vox wah , with adjustable volume...nice. "Mod" the usual Chorus/Flange/Phase/Trem, unsynced. "Bass" one thing that's very handy for a loop guitarist is a regular sub octave effect, but that's not on offer here. The closest to that is "model of a bass guitar" which somehow sounds like the guy whose only in the band because his brother owns the pa. There's also a sub bass synth sound, great if you wanted to add deep mmumff mmmunnf type sounds. Best of the bunch is a modelled Moog type synth sound, tracks the entire range of the guitar well and sounds a whole lot better than any other similar effects I've tried. Also it responds really well to the loudness of the note. Only downside with this is that it's not an octave down, so doesn't really qualify as bass...but it's definitely a personal favourite. These two synth bass sounds also work great together, maybe that's what the designers intended. Tracking for the bass sounds doesn't work on the low octave of a bass guitar. Pedal controls volume, and oddly there's no other control. "Acoustic" a few of the usual multi-fx type sims, the resonator guitar is quite fun. "Pitch" If you couldn't find that bass sound in the bass section, then dial in an octave down and mix with the dry signal. "Stutter" just like the post fx. "EQ" very limited, but might be useful. "Delay" A whole 2 seconds delay that can sync to the metronome, so with metronome sound turned off it's a tap time delay. There's 3 flavours of delay, digital which is the only one which "goes forever", analog which loses highs quite quickly and tape, which can sound rather woozily out of tune. As 2s is enough for looping, this can be a good place to to start a piece, just working with delay until something worth keeping turns up. As the looplength and delay can both be synced to the metronome and complex arrangement can be easily had. Playing with the delay time produces some great pitch bends which get trapped in the loop, might be just the thing for someone trying to get a hip-hop vibe. Pedal controls delay volume and feedback together. Note, tap time only works if both loops are erased. "Reverb" select Spring, Room, Hall and adjust volume with pedal. No other adjustments possible. Spring sounded ok on guitar. "Sci-Fi" the oddball stuff that wouldn't fit elsewhere. A slow attack effect. Some harsh resonant drones. A couple of synth sounds, one of them not bad. A strange drum synth thing which pedals between an electro handclap and some of those sounds which you recognised from early drum machines but never new what they were meant to emulate. Overall the effects are something of a mixed bag, with inspiration, disappointment and "good enough to make do" about equal measure. Only having a single effect available at a time is also going to produce frustration. Best to see the effects as a bonus feature on what is essentially a loop pedal, and it's certainly possible to pick out some different tones to keep the layers in the loop distinguishable. Having both pre and post fx depend on the expression pedal has it's downside, to switch from controlling the pre to post fx you have to go toe hard on the pedal. This of course leaves the pre fx in it's maxed out setting...not so clever, especially as some sounds, like distortion, will be made overly loud, and of course delay goes into runaway feedback (confirmed by tech support, but this isn't in the manual). It's possible to store your effect settings in 50 presets which can be accessed by scrolling them through with the "Program Up" button (program down is done by holding Program Up while hitting Trigger/Tap). That's probably the best way to get to the sounds that work for you easily. Loading a preset engages the pre fx if it was on when saved, and also changes the assignment of the expression pedal to pre or post. It doesn't switch on the post fx though, you have to do that by moving the pedal. Metronome settings are not stored in the presets, those just stay where you put them even after re-boot. One feature I couldn't see the point of was the master limiter, it's supposed to balance the volume of the 2 loops and the input but to be honest all I ever heard it do was make the loops louder. Sound quality seems pretty good, and the mic input works well. Incidentally it is possible to put the pre fx on the mic if you want. Build quality is solid, except for one thing. It's not that difficult to dislodge the foot-switches, and if you do there's a spring that's easily lost. Vox tech support says that spare parts are available, and that the foot-switches don't have this problem, however I managed to accidentally dislodge a switch during use. I've never had that happen before with any other switch, and I'm known as a "tap dancer". The response of the switches is good enough to get accurately timed loops, although they don't make contact until the end of their travel so they're not as good as they could be. They operate nice and quietly, a useful consideration for anyone playing at low volume. An easy modification is to remove the spring from the foot-switches, which instantly makes them much more responsive. Incidently Vox tech support, via email, is very good and prompt, although at time of writing the tech support guy doesn't have access to a VDL-1. The manual is generally excellent. One thing it won't tell you is "which loop is the effect applied to", so here's the info: Loop fx are applied to the loop which is current when the loop is switched on, and will continue to work on that loop as long as they are left on. Stopping a loop automatically switches off the loop fx. Plus Points. The two loops open up a lot of possibilities, especially as they can be of different length. Re-sample allows you to multiply the length of a loop. Easy portability and small footprint will appeal to experienced loopers who don't want to haul out the big rig for a small gig. The Undo/Redo allows you to make complex arrangements. 2s delay can be as an auxiliary synced loop. No shortage of weirdness for those who like that sort of thing. Minus Points. Not practical to use for Verse Chorus structures despite this appearing to be on offer. Using a small number of controls for a large number of features inevitably makes many features awkward to access. No way to independently control the volume of the loops. No feedback control. Claim of "infinite overdubs" is untrue and misleading. Effects only sync to metronome, not to loop directly, and can't be tap timed once loop is running. Conclusion. To assess the VDL-1 it's necessary to to consider what it is, it's not a fully fledged multi-fx with a looper tagged on, it's a looper with a few effects thrown in. The lack of loop storage is no disadvantage to the live looper, and 90 seconds of loop time is plenty. Vox have obviously put a lot of effort into making this, in effect, a playable instrument. Equally it's very apparent they didn't research what is possible and popular on existing loop devices, or ask any expert users for comment. If they had then two part song structures and a feedback control would have been obvious additions. It has the capability to create complex arrangements well beyond what people would expect of a "loop station". To get the most out of it will take a bit of effort and creativity, and an acceptance that some things just aren't possible, but it certainly has enough going for it for me, and maybe you, to do a show with just one pedal. copyright 2011 andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 14:59:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDD2918345B; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5A23F9F8-5C35-4774-9476-1D728BB33962@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:59:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0PaIRD.A.KDG.gHLAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Steve, I must have missed this when you first posted it, both lovely and really impressive. Nice work bro Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 15:04:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C706183463; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--351030197 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: new breakout box Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:04:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3I61JC.A.bLG.xLLAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:04:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--351030197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @Bill We're developing affordable kits at the moment: http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011 Doh! now I remember, let me know when they are ready and keep us posted on your findings. I've been eye balling the MCmillen string port for a while but its a bit pricey Anyone using one, Ted are you? Howz it work? Bill --Apple-Mail-8--351030197 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @Bill  We're developing affordable kits at the moment:
http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011

 Doh! now I remember, let me know when they are ready and keep us posted on your findings. I've been eye balling the MCmillen string port for a while but its a bit pricey Anyone using one,  Ted are you?  Howz it work?
Bill
--Apple-Mail-8--351030197-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 15:08:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40619183461; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 Review From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4E00ABE9.4030001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:08:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4E00ABE9.4030001@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:34 AM, andy butler wrote: > First thing to do with a new looping device is plug it in, you'll have = no problems tapping in that first loop, just 2 presses of the same = easily accessible foot-switch ("Rec/Play/Overdub"). > A second switch ("Stop")lets you stop the loop with a press, and once = stopped if you hold the switch down the loop is erased. Hence to = re-record a loop that you're not happy with is far from a seamless = process, and very far from the ideal of simply being able to hit a = switch that starts a new recording right away. Another slight down point = is that the loop won't stop until you release the switch, not a problem = when you get used to it. Once stopped the loop can be restarted with the = Rec/Play/Overdub switch. > There's also three alternate "Stop Modes" available if you don't want = the loop to stop right away, either it can play to it's end before = stopping, the loop can fade or the loop can stop a with delay applied. I = didn't think those modes added much with the fades not sounding very = smooth. There's an interesting UI design problem in loopers about how to get as = much functionality out of as few buttons as possible. It gets worse when = one wants to support multiple tracks -- particularly more than two -- = and probably depends on whether one is designing for the phrase = sampler/serial looper space or the multitrack overdubbing space. I think Line6 managed to nail it for the single track, overdub focused = looper with Rec/Overdub and Play/Stop with erase being implied by = hitting the former while stopped. This doesn't, however, translate as = cleanly to any looper that wants to support things like bouncing to the = first empty track because then it becomes vital to have a way to erase a = track without recording to it. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 15:21:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66822183461; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: Subject: Using Kinect as a Controller Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:21:07 -0500 Message-ID: <00f201cc3026$d95fb380$8c1f1a80$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AcwwJr43YSyD3chXSdaChk7jjqNmvA== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Anyone using or hear of someone using a Kinect hack for controlling a looper? Thanks, Mike www.michaelplishka.com www.zenstorming.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 16:00:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E6C3183462; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JUji3UG8fNlQA0Z0aQgBgQ)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-21_07:2011-06-21,2011-06-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106210131 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:59:45 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <9A2EA6E6-B69D-48BF-A22A-1DB63E7CC0F9@sea.plala.or.jp> Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <8fpBcC.A.DJH.HAMAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:00:07 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_JUji3UG8fNlQA0Z0aQgBgQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > You seemed to just pop into the new key, His method is so innovative! Its exciting. Makes me want to tell you all about it. Bill, don't let me steal your blazing fire. You rockstar innovator. Daniel On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:38 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Fantastic as usual Bill. > > For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? You seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative pitch shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?... > > Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on the edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly replacing chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I have 2 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness. > > > love from Norge > > Mark >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SIF__77B9k > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Boundary_(ID_JUji3UG8fNlQA0Z0aQgBgQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
You seemed to just pop into the new key, 

His method is so innovative!  Its exciting. Makes me want to tell you all about it.  Bill, don't let me steal your blazing fire.  You rockstar innovator. 

Daniel 

On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:38 AM, mark francombe wrote:

Fantastic as usual Bill.

For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? You seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative pitch shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?...

Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on the edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly replacing chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I have 2 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness.


love from Norge

Mark

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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

--Boundary_(ID_JUji3UG8fNlQA0Z0aQgBgQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 16:27:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA150183464; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6lY7Qot8zu9N52lLoS/t6LeMU20wHJe0MLMiuN5vCq0=; b=lBjSFn/9nWh3JVnI71frZiswe6rvZfntnSbk8Z+PKaiVxGtQMQNF2RrWAQJ//P+B60 Ls4ZoatPSUvtx1BLSuHAxtbVqd5ERQAT2FQAl3V5uLNu3d9Bl6Z5UgTge/1QuiAj+nG7 KsXRq7aUUwaIIXU49/ZhJA07JAfBG/FhQcDt8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=MYhWAoi//gQNY9qsoMsz6cQZTd5aIFtDYidy6t8WAOrU9mQwfch+hU2jQEOzq7WMUR JZNAjXjW+6b/x8wsJIzXZNHVqNGuF/KvI9L54u3ZdErGR9mTOsC0NVa1bR7yuzsMaPDd H/eLcsrDWWGOwsjFpUYVq6vYQ33LxfOxofagY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9A2EA6E6-B69D-48BF-A22A-1DB63E7CC0F9@sea.plala.or.jp> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:27:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aeNGANyEx7YGxvc4LXwjH5j3pfQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba61358a3c342104a63b558b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:27:51 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba61358a3c342104a63b558b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its not some kind of "next loop quantised sus replace" is it? just popping into the "other" loop when you are playing a"new key chord" I experimented with this on the edp, but gave up as I lacked three legs for all the footpedal pushin=B4 M On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote= : > You seemed to just pop into the new key, > > > His method is so innovative! Its exciting. Makes me want to tell you all > about it. Bill, don't let me steal your blazing fire. You rockstar > innovator. > > Daniel > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:38 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > Fantastic as usual Bill. > > For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large > overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? Y= ou > seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative pitch > shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?... > > Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on the ed= p > I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly replacing > chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I have 2 keys,= I > move on to a 3rd loop if ness. > > > love from Norge > > Mark > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8SIF__77B9k > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba61358a3c342104a63b558b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its not some kind of "next loop quantised sus replace" is it? jus= t popping into the "other" loop when you are playing a"new k= ey chord" I experimented with this on the edp, but gave up as I lacked= three legs for all the footpedal pushin=B4

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On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Da= niel Thomas <= danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
You seemed to just pop into the new key,=A0

His method is so innovative! =A0Its exciting. Makes me want to = tell you all about it. =A0Bill, don't let me steal your blazing fire. = =A0You rockstar innovator.=A0

Daniel=A0

On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:38 AM, mark fr= ancombe wrote:

Fantastic as usual Bill.<= br>
For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large overdra= fts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? You seemed= to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative pitch shift te= chniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?...

Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on the = edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly replaci= ng=20 chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I have 2=20 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness.


love from Norge

M= ark

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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe




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Mark Fra= ncombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba61358a3c342104a63b558b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 17:33:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E0DE183461; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 636147458/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.61/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.61 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjICAHfUAE5YbR49/2dsb2JhbAAMSJgemD2/cIYqBJY6izM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,402,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="636147458" Message-ID: <4E00D5D0.8030402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:33:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vox Dynamic Looper VDL-1 Review References: <4E00ABE9.4030001@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > There's an interesting UI design problem in loopers about how to get > as much functionality out of as few buttons as possible. That's a nice point to bring up. The more you have, the harder it is to control. Maybe the ultimate looper will have just 2 loops. andy Reminds me to note that the VDL-1 won't go directly into overdub after recording. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 17:42:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABDA8183465; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 949 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:42:29 UTC X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1308677199-0378c325a52f5ca0001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.87 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: new breakout box Thread-Topic: new breakout box X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: new breakout box Thread-Index: AQHMMCxOzg7Xn7B9hESkifFXvUexqpTID+tA Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:26:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF05CE58WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-03.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.87] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1308677199 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:42:29 +0000 (UTC) --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF05CE58WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For what it is worth I'm using Baxendale's box, works a charm. I've started= using this with Live, with some of Live's ready-to-use delays and filters = applied to strings separately... fun sounds. Hal Dean From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:04 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: new breakout box @Bill We're developing affordable kits at the moment: http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011 Doh! now I remember, let me know when they are ready and keep us posted on= your findings. I've been eye balling the MCmillen string port for a while = but its a bit pricey Anyone using one, Ted are you? Howz it work? Bill --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF05CE58WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For what it is worth I= 217;m using Baxendale’s box, works a charm. I’ve started using = this with Live, with some of Live’s ready-to-use delays and filters a= pplied to strings separately… fun sounds.

 <= /p>

Hal Dean

 <= /p>

From: William = Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:04 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: new breakout box

 

@Bill  We're developing affordable kits at the = moment:
http://= rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011

 

 Doh! now I remember, let me know when they are= ready and keep us posted on your findings. I've been eye balling the MCmil= len string port for a while but its a bit pricey Anyone using one,  Te= d are you?  Howz it work?

Bill

--_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF05CE58WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 17:50:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1D6C183462; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:50:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Using Kinect as a Controller From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1818229cd95304a63c7d90 Resent-Message-ID: <30XoN.A.Vz.znNAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:50:43 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba1818229cd95304a63c7d90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Anyone using or hear of someone using a Kinect hack for controlling a looper? In my Space Palette instrument, I can turn on looping independently for each of the seven frames/sounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8_h6XnBplY I tend not to turn on the looping because it obscures the fact that every note is being controlled (both pitch and timing) by my hands. Still, I've only got two hands, so for an upcoming performance, I'm planning on "looping" the drum sounds by hanging and swinging a tennis ball within one of the frames. ...Tim... --90e6ba1818229cd95304a63c7d90 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Anyone using or hear of someone using a Kinect hack for controlling a= =A0looper?

In my Space Palette instrument, I can turn on looping ind= ependently=A0for each of the seven frames/sounds:

=A0 =A0 =A0http://www.youtube.com/wa= tch?v=3Dn8_h6XnBplY

I tend not to turn on the looping because it obscures the fact that eve= ry note=A0is being controlled (both pitch and timing) by my hands. =A0Still= , I've only got two hands, so for an upcoming performance,=A0I'm pl= anning on "looping" the drum sounds by hanging and=A0swinging a t= ennis ball within=A0one of the frames.

=A0 =A0 =A0...Tim...
--90e6ba1818229cd95304a63c7d90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 18:00:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CFD8183475; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=vzlmGNxbrxd8bWBTmGQqu40dr56KnMD9Gyr1AWiazxE=; b=nTXTC9k+OW4T4rxRnbz762TC1gEMY7NOm9LFL3yHbbsbXE7oPTLijME3Yfh+0QpP7Q k8Yeui6X2G+nQG8KuMkNax/gmD7ci7J0AClGzBwHF6WfvnI1noFxjtwZDws8RV3lx7HF PwFzl+5zGgFOet6ei1ooZyKyKyMoHU2UqKNHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=q3AzKNYovDYEV3W2nHcPaRLs8qNOTjQXq6X6eS+FVZ6K8Ic1WyGAcALwKHJSYHPwvW l6PgxgsMhf3nGfws6Ye9qttHn6o/h+xA0lFws1I8xW4scOrJlLS0ihfNpOjQd5PGSW5H x5AYK4aXSSJL0rsVuFGT2yn7nIgKhfkmqy1lA= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--340455473 Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:00:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <9A2EA6E6-B69D-48BF-A22A-1DB63E7CC0F9@sea.plala.or.jp> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:00:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--340455473 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I thought it might be the 'mellotron' mode... I have not yet explored = those commands but i have assumed it is standard pitch-shifting with = resultant time-shift as well... and Bill's chord changes seemed to = maintain the same rhythmic pulse... though the subdivisions were gently = different... So I too am pleasantly puzzled :) Phil :) On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:27 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Its not some kind of "next loop quantised sus replace" is it? just = popping into the "other" loop when you are playing a"new key chord" I = experimented with this on the edp, but gave up as I lacked three legs = for all the footpedal pushin=B4 >=20 > M >=20 > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Daniel Thomas = wrote: >> You seemed to just pop into the new key,=20 >=20 > His method is so innovative! Its exciting. Makes me want to tell you = all about it. Bill, don't let me steal your blazing fire. You rockstar = innovator.=20 >=20 > Daniel=20 >=20 > On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:38 AM, mark francombe wrote: >=20 >> Fantastic as usual Bill. >>=20 >> For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large = overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? = You seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative = pitch shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?...=20 >>=20 >> Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on = the edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly = replacing chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I = have 2 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> love from Norge >>=20 >> Mark >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8SIF__77B9k >>=20 >> --=20 >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Apple-Mail-3--340455473 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I = thought it might be the 'mellotron' mode... I have not yet explored = those commands but i have assumed it is standard pitch-shifting with = resultant time-shift as well... and Bill's chord changes seemed to = maintain the same rhythmic pulse...  though the subdivisions were = gently different...

So I too am pleasantly puzzled = :)

Phil = :)


On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:27 AM, = mark francombe wrote:

Its not = some kind of "next loop quantised sus replace" is it? just popping into = the "other" loop when you are playing a"new key chord" I experimented = with this on the edp, but gave up as I lacked three legs for all the = footpedal pushin=B4

M

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:59 PM, = Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>= wrote:
You seemed to just pop into the new = key, 

His method is so innovative! =  Its exciting. Makes me want to tell you all about it.  Bill, = don't let me steal your blazing fire.  You rockstar = innovator. 

Daniel 

On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:38 AM, mark francombe = wrote:

Fantastic as usual Bill.

For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large = overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? = You seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative = pitch shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?... =

Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on = the edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly = replacing=20 chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I have 2=20 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness.


love from = Norge

Mark

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

= --Apple-Mail-3--340455473-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 18:09:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A5AC183473; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Phil Clevenger MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-2--340100854" Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:06:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <9A2EA6E6-B69D-48BF-A22A-1DB63E7CC0F9@sea.plala.or.jp> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:09:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--340100854 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I thought it might be the 'mellotron' mode... I have not yet explored = those commands but i have assumed it is standard pitch-shifting with = resultant time-shift as well... and Bill's chord changes seemed to = maintain the same rhythmic pulse... though the subdivisions were gently = different... So I too am pleasantly puzzled :) Phil :) On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:27 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Its not some kind of "next loop quantised sus replace" is it? just = popping into the "other" loop when you are playing a"new key chord" I = experimented with this on the edp, but gave up as I lacked three legs = for all the footpedal pushin=B4 >=20 > M >=20 > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Daniel Thomas = wrote: >> You seemed to just pop into the new key,=20 >=20 > His method is so innovative! Its exciting. Makes me want to tell you = all about it. Bill, don't let me steal your blazing fire. You rockstar = innovator.=20 >=20 > Daniel=20 >=20 > On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:38 AM, mark francombe wrote: >=20 >> Fantastic as usual Bill. >>=20 >> For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large = overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? = You seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative = pitch shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?...=20 >>=20 >> Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on = the edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly = replacing chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I = have 2 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> love from Norge >>=20 >> Mark >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8SIF__77B9k >>=20 >> --=20 >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Apple-Mail-2--340100854 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" I = thought it might be the 'mellotron' mode... I have not yet explored = those commands but i have assumed it is standard pitch-shifting with = resultant time-shift as well... and Bill's chord changes seemed to = maintain the same rhythmic pulse...  though the subdivisions were = gently different...

So I too am pleasantly puzzled = :)

Phil = :)


On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:27 AM, = mark francombe wrote:

Its not = some kind of "next loop quantised sus replace" is it? just popping into = the "other" loop when you are playing a"new key chord" I experimented = with this on the edp, but gave up as I lacked three legs for all the = footpedal pushin=B4

M

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:59 PM, = Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>= wrote:
You seemed to just pop into the new = key, 

His method is so innovative! =  Its exciting. Makes me want to tell you all about it.  Bill, = don't let me steal your blazing fire.  You rockstar = innovator. 

Daniel 

On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:38 AM, mark francombe = wrote:

Fantastic as usual Bill.

For us Non-looperlative people (fools, losers and people with large = overdrafts) can you explain how you are achieving the key change stuff? = You seemed to just pop into the new key, is it using some looperlative = pitch shift techniques, or do you have post looper pitch shifter?... =

Of course Im old school enough to do this on the Repeater... or on = the edp I would do this by loop copying onto a new loop and then slowly = replacing=20 chunks in the new key, creating a odd bridge section, then I have 2=20 keys, I move on to a 3rd loop if ness.


love from = Norge

Mark

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

= --Apple-Mail-2--340100854-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 18:18:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C45F1183486; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Logic Audio, was Re: Midiocracy From: jayrope LD In-Reply-To: <20110620175053.439E4183463@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:18:12 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <16E0AE92-B5CD-4FF5-8E6E-72CE3E9E675D@kliklak.net> References: <20110620175053.439E4183463@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Mr. Zwicky, i can't blame you for not having tried direct comparisons. = Feel free to do so. I was a hardcore Logic user for 15 years. I'm so = very glad this is over. No more lengthy tweaking of stuff, that already = sounds, when just running on a properly programmed audio engine. Though = i do miss some of Logic's GUI convenience. So well: Hear for yourself. It's is the only thing i can recommend. - - -=20 jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Jun 20, 2011, at 7:50 PM, = Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > Yep, sure.. and Ferrarri's are awful cars, always running into trees, = and Stratocasters are unprofessional toys.. wank wank wank... ;-) >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> On another note: Get rid of Logic eventually. It's got an awful sound = (when you compare it to Cubase, Nuendo or Pro Tools HD). >> Feel free to email me privately, if any more questions. >> Best of luck. >> - - - >> jayrope >> http://www.kliklak.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 19:01:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 202E9183475; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RkhFSMfbVD/kIaWDCtlmD+n2UFUipMqnod+VHLrWt5E6sbiSbCOgc2NNJYr6r+XQ; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <16E0AE92-B5CD-4FF5-8E6E-72CE3E9E675D@kliklak.net> References: <20110620175053.439E4183463@arsenic.violacea.com> <16E0AE92-B5CD-4FF5-8E6E-72CE3E9E675D@kliklak.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:59:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Logic Audio, was Re: Midiocracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a75cdf53b8a87e567b92c8acce159ffa350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:01:14 +0000 (UTC) That's quite a lot of assuming, Jay.... Let's talk about Protools HD, OK? For starters, the "HD" fixed point audio engine and headroom. 0dBfs = clipping. Try a simple experiment. Insert a 20hz HP filter across a 100hz sinewave in Protools HD while monitoring the output level on an Analog VU meter across the stereo bus. When you engage the HP filter you will see a 3-6dB increase in signal level on the analog output for a signal that shouldn't be affected at all by that filter. This sort of signal condition is happening on every channel of Protools HD and the net result is that you run out of headroom and the signal clips, though the Protools meters won't reflect this because it's caused by intersample math overages. Logic, on the other hand uses a floating point audio engine, this gives over 1500dB of headroom, and retains the full 32 bit audio data at any attenuation or boost in level. That is what I call a " a properly programmed audio engine", my friend. But what do I know... ;-) * >Mr. Zwicky, i can't blame you for not having tried direct >comparisons. Feel free to do so. I was a hardcore Logic user for 15 >years. I'm so very glad this is over. No more lengthy tweaking of >stuff, that already sounds, when just running on a properly >programmed audio engine. Though i do miss some of Logic's GUI >convenience. >So well: Hear for yourself. It's is the only thing i can recommend. >- - - >jayrope >http://www.kliklak.net > >On Jun 20, 2011, at 7:50 PM, >Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > >> Yep, sure.. and Ferrarri's are awful cars, always running into >>trees, and Stratocasters are unprofessional toys.. wank wank >>wank... ;-) >> >> >>> >>> On another note: Get rid of Logic eventually. It's got an awful >>>sound (when you compare it to Cubase, Nuendo or Pro Tools HD). >>> Feel free to email me privately, if any more questions. >>> Best of luck. >>> - - - >>> jayrope >>> http://www.kliklak.net -- * http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 19:20:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80128183462; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KbgCB5fDoqCaTSeNimb6GrbQHqyL4l1uXkVGbFbqJG8=; b=kNNYawXNytj05RZOLyn/FkZjkEAk84BX/T4Eh89qnqi8g6XdkmlcqInoHGjrTdCNOm OEOuCXP0X131gkO9oHI0SEiRYQsk9EjAD7UwIAl13OTnRYe5ySrUzOBt52XQzML+kirY ZEMwWaMKF9bhk832Xj8P86KUSitPYTklOpX04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=byZ8Y34v1eV31ycSYujI4sCMw9T/SuAx8Hg1tzRJ3NCMjLNlKU/YDb3q/weF4jReUw pdqBUiwWgVyrmkd4jbiNtUkNJGog7g/c3n+W5l/QQYlu35KCEem3g0NXzNQs2nBowSb/ atmSUmG4Scu36CH5QXvs4J9xmHFxafT+SgfKI= Message-ID: <4E00EEDA.8060608@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:19:54 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Audiogeek's logic (was: Logic Audio, was Re: Midiocracy) References: <20110620175053.439E4183463@arsenic.violacea.com> <16E0AE92-B5CD-4FF5-8E6E-72CE3E9E675D@kliklak.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:20:10 +0000 (UTC) I hope the analogue summing discussion is next... Rainer (who prefers a Carrera GT or M3 GT2 over a Ferrari any day) > That is what I call a " a properly programmed audio engine", my friend. > > But what do I know... ;-) * >> Mr. Zwicky, i can't blame you for not having tried direct >> comparisons. Feel free to do so. I was a hardcore Logic user for 15 >> years. I'm so very glad this is over. No more >>> Yep, sure.. and Ferrarri's are awful cars, always running into >>> trees, and Stratocasters are unprofessional toys.. wank wank wank... >>> ;-) >>>> On another note: Get rid of Logic eventually. It's got an awful >>>> sound (when you compare it to Cubase, Nuendo or Pro Tools HD). -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 19:20:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20809183465; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E00EF03.5030809@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:20:35 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Thompson CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Using Kinect as a Controller References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:20:40 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Thompson wrote: > In my Space Palette instrument, I can turn on looping > independently for each of the seven frames/sounds: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8_h6XnBplY > > I tend not to turn on the looping because it obscures the fact that > every note is being controlled (both pitch and timing) by my hands. > Still, I've only got two hands, so for an upcoming performance, I'm > planning on "looping" the drum sounds by hanging and swinging a tennis > ball within one of the frames. > Awesome, Tim. Would you consider coming to the Looping Festival in October and doing a set with the Space Palette? I'll man your LoopyCam invention if you do!!!! Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 19:35:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5314E183453; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-21_08:2011-06-21,2011-06-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=1 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106210183 Subject: Re: Audiogeek's logic (was: Logic Audio, was Re: Midiocracy) From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4E00EEDA.8060608@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:35:02 -0700 Message-id: <0B0926E3-1E21-42F9-B91C-AE040BD700C6@mac.com> References: <20110620175053.439E4183463@arsenic.violacea.com> <16E0AE92-B5CD-4FF5-8E6E-72CE3E9E675D@kliklak.net> <4E00EEDA.8060608@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Oh yes... Me me me, we must all have a good analog summing debate!! daniel On Jun 21, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > I hope the analogue summing discussion is next... > > Rainer > > (who prefers a Carrera GT or M3 GT2 over a Ferrari any day) >> That is what I call a " a properly programmed audio engine", my friend. >> >> But what do I know... ;-) * >>> Mr. Zwicky, i can't blame you for not having tried direct comparisons. Feel free to do so. I was a hardcore Logic user for 15 years. I'm so very glad this is over. No more >>>> Yep, sure.. and Ferrarri's are awful cars, always running into trees, and Stratocasters are unprofessional toys.. wank wank wank... ;-) >>>>> On another note: Get rid of Logic eventually. It's got an awful sound (when you compare it to Cubase, Nuendo or Pro Tools HD). > > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 20:02:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E8E5183463; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=7YODlk1Wj4fQApquzXfvNa3/nWXOVQdp9uE+WYTOlsU=; b=KctNFrB/RSJ+mZecpK50ef+e1o7noObZ6V9eBc75EwdFc6GB0dSxglbHI7aqypXydB 2PWtT52Mh2SRYW3XLhVa9+epp/GiSds2KCNOByDI66LB8U9GfZClrbrbkgPwUkOiVUqJ EOHIbO64+CRF+zPKa3sC8OxBQepamrxVOzLC8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=j9PyCbmg2SKraryeKpBUUCHOwhL1CagxVPpOh+aMcc9cXsqKYP5w+iSv6zIUsaheR/ 9oWf50Tx5g8QDTGEeddSHRQ+HTfY6rQ2wIuJFTESaxEI4c/Fomo6lL8cGg/7pzxlJeTW dSdpMv53AwoCHPZ4ddLbTKxX2Mm90svAgv2A4= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--333111113 Subject: Incorporating some reverse and half speed-Bass loop vid Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:02:50 -0400 Message-Id: <94080275-94D8-4FE1-9156-A7C822489DBA@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:02:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--333111113 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is the same tune I've been working on but I'm trying to toss in = some reverse and half speed. Should I keep em in or keep trying? http://toddbass.com/new-bedroom-improv/ -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 --Apple-Mail-3--333111113 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii This is the same tune I've been working on but I'm trying to toss in some reverse and half speed. Should I keep em in or keep trying?

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Todd Matthews
twitter: gtodd876

--Apple-Mail-3--333111113-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 20:23:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55ADF183460; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eM/Brztj8pXiG467ozjg1iTgSnTAzzA3oo8hrGQLYnQ=; b=U5g1KhdmpvVYmUoQi1Vb6jKE+5IffFEd20jRGwF0ULxB8akZ+oNulBfWRyb8ys0OLU OKImaDWn7QcVoBWapzx5DlhwWE+ct4DMNBhtigAUhmk5DlTYgkxLyrc7RhO90FUzqSsq ec1cG/3tbCoa+IO4GVwyoBUocpvhsB1hyxbyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PC7+VSCerbWK0hAqABMbMbwCAZplc+Cr/t7M9z5rRxEyi1wVocEnBilhWqoZcpc4uQ 9s2eFjyhmEOkA6MC8PTkh1u+fptRz6IV+IrWW/j83OS6CrTcNPHfGYl5o6J415AiJpFT osATbwJIonKFcYARE5cC8KODlXdxFpKY0QVTc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <94080275-94D8-4FE1-9156-A7C822489DBA@gmail.com> References: <94080275-94D8-4FE1-9156-A7C822489DBA@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:23:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Incorporating some reverse and half speed-Bass loop vid From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cff0de910d04a63ea0fc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:23:45 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cff0de910d04a63ea0fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Beautiful, I think that this is my favorite thing from you and leave in the reverse/half speed. thanks, jeff On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > This is the same tune I've been working on but I'm trying to toss in some > reverse and half speed. Should I keep em in or keep trying? > > http://toddbass.com/new-bedroom-improv/ > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > --20cf3071cff0de910d04a63ea0fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beautiful, I think that this is my favorite thing from you and leave in the= reverse/half speed.

thanks,

jeff



On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

--20cf3071cff0de910d04a63ea0fc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 20:32:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3CAC18345E; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Iy7NWkPMbbYCXLmaQxF8vwxqvebi5mCEmv/4Z07br1E=; b=CuPYbXR7lWXE4kNynwpHU1HsRR6tUtahnZ6z0SqMXbLgRPrwrS09MenT5I5iVEabqc blo9lrBFjglI0rWg8nrBsIhRAfrcMbe1dCtHoVBbtM86nw8ex0jq5TYC7E2NxcnCBDxl ORvnKksIItXViULNni2N3mlDYi26KopFLkOSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CLPY7KXfegGJRG3h1Ocg/VLWb13lOdJil27Faf+OuKvbo70UCBimPAoXZzOdiK6Cvv J7QbqimvP2/iZz7iOpXYowL931V+Ib8dKegWlwoFo9QHfmZ6ME4RJo6de0UkeOn9l0kj 6wzKSts3fgGBY6lh1SbuOWlCKh8/6uQoqqhi4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DFFA005.7050107@googlemail.com> References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> <143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> <4DFFA005.7050107@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:32:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba5bbb57eca58c04a63ebe6b Resent-Message-ID: <-AmrLD.A.IjD.J_PAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:32:09 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba5bbb57eca58c04a63ebe6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen Goodman was like: >While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered if >anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...? I was thinking about >it myself... I usually attend this event, which is always excellent. (The only complaint is that it doesn't change much from year to year.) If you live in the SF Ba= y Area, I highly recommend it: http://www.gardenofmemory.com/ I assume Rainer is talking to a different Matt in the email below. (I don't know what Cafe Noodle is.) --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt Rainer Straschill : was all: > Sorry, I missed the beginning of this: > > where's the action? When? Personally, I'd be preferring 21st (i.e. > tomorrow) for my performance - who is scheduled so far? > Tech platform? > > Matt - Caf=E9 Noodle a possibility? > --90e6ba5bbb57eca58c04a63ebe6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> was like:
>While=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered if
= >anyone=20 was planning any performances online for the 21st...?=A0 I was thinking abo= ut=20
>it myself...

I usually attend this event, which is always ex= cellent. (The only complaint is that it doesn't change much from year t= o year.) If you live in the SF Bay Area, I highly recommend it:

http://www.gardenofmemory.com/

I assume Rainer is talking to a different Matt in the= email below. (I don't know what Cafe Noodle is.)

--
Matt Da= vignon
mattdavignon@gm= ail.com
= www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



Rainer Strasc= hill : <mo= insound@googlemail.com> was all:
Sorry, I missed the beginning of this:

where's the action? When? Personally, I'd be preferring 21st (i.e. = tomorrow) for my performance - who is scheduled so far?
Tech platform?

Matt - Caf=E9 Noodle a possibility?
--90e6ba5bbb57eca58c04a63ebe6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 20:45:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1570F183453; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iGTAl3rG8DDnBVE8pRy/9ImzF9VXmgXFv4p1Eec0Rtw=; b=DTjaIObw78NTRLt3MDARVA/w8zx0PaSPtAmAopUUHdjwKoBwqXELX32e0x3I+h9hi8 r7fmoS7v30XDMb6oq/+3JwBODADWNelmXKuma3xhpKDhMy7evpztYoxBJFfsZNLmzqqe 6EZbMb9us2EYJseNicDUlzdg09EicWfR237+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vPTxcsJ7MVT1y5tpeaqGwr+y20TsydipyhktY0ebHOQy3ye+/SytTqauq2QBn/RVWS jrMfBWUnez04MBkr4GrjrY/Pbd9tK/1tqyvJslKbvVfB6pHj60sVi00936iHUsjs3uBg JDI+mC/iscbCiGd949jy0r2ti6wxWAfSOh1dY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <846448A1-9712-4EB9-AF4A-6C043EA66E28@zonemobius.com> <143C624130B748A5AA0BEFB5A34C13AE@ELUK1> <4DFFA005.7050107@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:45:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solstice Anyone? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51a7ff2b9438904a63eee8a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:45:31 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51a7ff2b9438904a63eee8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt, that would be http://cafenoodle.ning.com/ which is going on hiatus fo= r at least a while. This is our own Matt Stevens he was referring to. He has hosted many great streaming fests and events there! Looks like one more farewell show on the 16th July. best, Jeff On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Matt Davignon wrot= e: > Stephen Goodman was like: > >While there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I > wondered if > >anyone was planning any performances online for the 21st...? I was > thinking about > >it myself... > > I usually attend this event, which is always excellent. (The only complai= nt > is that it doesn't change much from year to year.) If you live in the SF = Bay > Area, I highly recommend it: > > http://www.gardenofmemory.com/ > > I assume Rainer is talking to a different Matt in the email below. (I don= 't > know what Cafe Noodle is.) > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > > > Rainer Straschill : was all: > >> Sorry, I missed the beginning of this: >> >> where's the action? When? Personally, I'd be preferring 21st (i.e. >> tomorrow) for my performance - who is scheduled so far? >> Tech platform? >> >> Matt - Caf=E9 Noodle a possibility? >> > > --bcaec51a7ff2b9438904a63eee8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt, that would be http://cafenood= le.ning.com/ which is going on hiatus for at least a while. This is our= own Matt Stevens he was referring to. He has hosted many great streaming f= ests and events there! Looks like one more farewell show on the 16th July.<= br>
best,

Jeff



On Tue, Jun= 21, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> was like:<= br>
>While=20 there certainly was the electro-music thing last weekend I wondered if
= >anyone=20 was planning any performances online for the 21st...?=A0 I was thinking abo= ut=20
>it myself...

I usually attend this event, which is always ex= cellent. (The only complaint is that it doesn't change much from year t= o year.) If you live in the SF Bay Area, I highly recommend it:

http://www.gar= denofmemory.com/

I assume Rainer is talking to a dif= ferent Matt in the email below. (I don't know what Cafe Noodle is.)

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gm= ail.com
= www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



Rainer Strasc= hill : <moinsound@googlemail.com> was all:
Sorry, I missed the beginning of this:

where's the action? When? Personally, I'd be preferring 21st (i.e. = tomorrow) for my performance - who is scheduled so far?
Tech platform?

Matt - Caf=E9 Noodle a possibility?

--bcaec51a7ff2b9438904a63eee8a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 21:15:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B192C183460; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=/Lx0lJNrX9V+NkzrG4gzPCNyu4GhD2VPxQEajDF6yHw=; b=xZMLR9h+5cvsFKUuc+uT0bTpCa4TGdMBdVhYm1Lv7JI7OMaSnBeSxvrszHQHAXW3Uo opN3+OMlolWPblTa2b+3ON/lbRJs3e7Rnf7HGqvmqt96BkeK+jtxRvzWEVoiLmgAZ/Ch NMYPKMwtcY6H6qBKuyaZRksxns7jcyNPuOW94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=nLppvMwKMMhB37fjEw5Vlf2CmGCYXwtLzE/wA0ob8y365iyHnJo8dE62x4JS1Y9eHs ForPu8PU1/XV8GOAFMhzFoRQsr6sn5kLsqqBmRAeN1kc69uT+s0D/HJP0IDK9HMxH1D5 YoAansb1LwNMGTmJIoKUwm25mwyXQBtV2W6/c= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Incorporating some reverse and half speed-Bass loop vid From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:15:43 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8AE6F3DB-6F08-4EB7-9C8C-39EA319666E1@gmail.com> References: <94080275-94D8-4FE1-9156-A7C822489DBA@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Thank you for taking the time to critique, Jeff. I'm gonna give it go = tonight and see how the reversed half speed works in a live setting.=20 On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Beautiful, I think that this is my favorite thing from you and leave = in the reverse/half speed. >=20 > thanks, >=20 > jeff > ------------------ Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 21:27:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8194183460; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rT+ZcmAIny+9HtQqIn2MeiPkBFvsCXb//IOEbjKijkE=; b=N05uB7T919Z38Ku4QRxwUiNRoWpfBTaPLD2AU0A0JELs0pMWtAjrCLqY66ZhGJ7ivk H8ryfXN/qTAdzAFQ7OUncOzJCPDpK03l2NMdbss1ynZl7em7Axe5QjBH7vxdaAV+KnMI fEshGpQb1gZfjDv4swl4YEpoKDhHqLhksAczE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wHLbbrLTzARj69FCViYEifM2dP3EAMr1a/j3dgrVmgCRmbC3ZXF1V/h30axtKcaejj RePwedC4IeGMdsgP2isgQ0lM3jc2qeYfdV/KweMj59/oPzcdPifmZ5n+1kvOzAAyi2WI qFEWNMUFGs5DDIJB2fvgn0D5jyc0bhvfZnUwE= Message-ID: <4E010CC2.4070405@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:27:30 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill Reply-To: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: OT: Drummer/percussionist wanted (and perhaps other instrumentalists as well) for no-budget album project (no looping) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4j4cu.A.FiE.SzQAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Just a quick offtopic shout: I'm looking for collaboration partners for a no-budget (and no-looping) album project of mine, scheduled for Q4/11 "or later". Currently looking for drummers and percussionists, but other instrumentalists (esp. trumpet, spanish-speaking lead vocals and English horn) may also apply ;) Style: rather crossover, collection of short tracks. Salsa, progrock, hardcore, ambient, jazz,... Must be able to record stuff multi-track-wise. Replies off-list only, please! Sorry for bringing this up, and thanks for considering, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 21:42:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAB92183453; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Using Kinect as a Controller Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:42:11 -0500 Message-ID: <010401cc305c$1597dbe0$40c793a0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0105_01CC3032.2CC1D3E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQLTV6nbutkSkVRu+HgVRr06x/xI5ZK6Bkaw X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:42:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01CC3032.2CC1D3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very cool! Thanks for sharing!! What's the software you're using again? Thanks, Mike From: Tim Thompson [mailto:me@timthompson.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using Kinect as a Controller > Anyone using or hear of someone using a Kinect hack for controlling a looper? In my Space Palette instrument, I can turn on looping independently for each of the seven frames/sounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8_h6XnBplY I tend not to turn on the looping because it obscures the fact that every note is being controlled (both pitch and timing) by my hands. Still, I've only got two hands, so for an upcoming performance, I'm planning on "looping" the drum sounds by hanging and swinging a tennis ball within one of the frames. ...Tim... ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01CC3032.2CC1D3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Very cool!  Thanks for sharing!!

 

What's the software you're using again?

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

 

From:= = Tim Thompson [mailto:me@timthompson.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June = 21, 2011 12:51 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Using Kinect = as a Controller

 

> Anyone = using or hear of someone using a Kinect hack for controlling = a looper?

In my Space Palette instrument, I can turn on = looping independently for each of the seven = frames/sounds:

     http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3Dn8_h6XnBplY

I tend not to turn on the looping = because it obscures the fact that every note is being controlled = (both pitch and timing) by my hands.  Still, I've only got two = hands, so for an upcoming performance, I'm planning on = "looping" the drum sounds by hanging and swinging a = tennis ball within one of the frames.


    =  ...Tim...

------=_NextPart_000_0105_01CC3032.2CC1D3E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 22:12:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24EBC18345E; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Kannon the Merciful Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:12:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:12:55 +0000 (UTC) First of all thanks for the inquiry, i think I have described this before but if not here goes. Before I start to play I record an empty loop on track 1 ( simply don't play while I hit record and the stop), This determines my master track length and also sends clock information to my time based effects so they are in sync. The lp-1 has a feature where by if I go to another track and press a play/stop, it will arm that track to the same length as the master, I proceed to arm 4 or 5 tracks in that way before I've started to record. I start the improv back on track 1, where I use quantize replace set to a value 16 to gradually build the first loop in to a percolating sequence of notes related to my I chord and basic tonal center. I proceed to track to where I started to build harmonies based of a IV chord of the same key, again using quantize replace with the same value. Once I have built this new track I stop it and let the initial track I play un accompanied. I repeat the same proceedure for a V chord and a minor VI. Once I have 4 different tracks of harmony content recorded, I may choose to add a percussive guit-box part on either track 5 or track 8. Once I've done that I move to a set of 4 group command presets where I can freely move from one group to the other. Each group contains one of tracks 1 through 4 plus tracks 5-8 where I put any tracks that I want to continue to play from one group select to another, example: group 1 contains track 1 and tracks 5-8, group 2 contains track 2 and 5-8, etc.. . so what I'm doing harmonically is pretty basic stuff, creating a I chrod on track 1, IV chord on track 2 etc but I'm using quantize replace alot to create the rythmic sequences and the use of a line 6 volume swell effect allows me to have a volume pedal like control when my feet are busy doing other things. This also allows for quantized captures of guitar sounds with out a percussive attack which makes for a smoother sounding sequencer effect. I might have beed doing some fireworx post processing but if so it was similar delay poly rythmns and panning effects, maybe some pitch shift, But most all of my pitch shift stuff and reverse stuff comes from track speed manipulation... lastly in order to do this technique one must first travel to Clarksdale Mississippi, where after consulting with the locals, you are directed to a cross roads, where you might have to sit and wait for a while, but eventually a guy named Dr Bill Z Bub will mossy along at which time you will be encouraged to strike a deal with him that involves what ever you want in exchange for your immortal soul. not a bad deal if you ask me. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 21 23:06:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9A4183460; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Logic Audio, was Re: Midiocracy From: jayrope LD In-Reply-To: <20110621214223.1CBDD183473@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:31:34 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6C85926E-BDC7-45CC-99DD-8E73F90BE610@kliklak.net> References: <20110621214223.1CBDD183473@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:06:44 +0000 (UTC) I just use my ears instead of calculation.=20 The increase in body, depth, definition is massive, when comparing an = identical multitrack session between Logic Pro and Cubase (6).=20 Regardless of floating point whatever. Just try it out. Its the only = test that works when in danger of getting lost in technical data = comparison without the ability to verify in detail, what manufacturers = tell you to sell their software. Called ears.=20 J - - -=20 jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:42 PM, = Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > That's quite a lot of assuming, Jay.... >=20 > Let's talk about Protools HD, OK? >=20 > For starters, the "HD" fixed point audio engine and headroom. 0dBfs =3D = clipping. >=20 > Try a simple experiment. >=20 > Insert a 20hz HP filter across a 100hz sinewave in Protools HD while = monitoring the output level on an Analog VU meter across the stereo bus. = When you engage the HP filter you will see a 3-6dB increase in signal = level on the analog output for a signal that shouldn't be affected at = all by that filter. >=20 > This sort of signal condition is happening on every channel of = Protools HD and the net result is that you run out of headroom and the = signal clips, though the Protools meters won't reflect this because it's = caused by intersample math overages. >=20 > Logic, on the other hand uses a floating point audio engine, this = gives over 1500dB of headroom, and retains the full 32 bit audio data at = any attenuation or boost in level. That is what I call a " a properly = programmed audio engine", my friend. >=20 > But what do I know... ;-) * From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 22 02:18:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ACC218345E; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=TqgNGU9NyFWsTOSMpPa7+PTCwOYC8BNAsIbVnI7n5QaHp/WN4fZAk0Nv9dTZ0Fho; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6C85926E-BDC7-45CC-99DD-8E73F90BE610@kliklak.net> References: <20110621214223.1CBDD183473@arsenic.violacea.com> <6C85926E-BDC7-45CC-99DD-8E73F90BE610@kliklak.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:18:49 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Logic Audio, was Re: Midiocracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79de3d49057c8131a571f0bee5f453eeba350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Classic..! >I just use my ears instead of calculation. >The increase in body, depth, definition is massive, when comparing >an identical multitrack session between Logic Pro and Cubase (6). >Regardless of floating point whatever. Just try it out. Its the only >test that works when in danger of getting lost in technical data >comparison without the ability to verify in detail, what >manufacturers tell you to sell their software. Called ears. >J >- - - >jayrope >http://www.kliklak.net > >On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:42 PM, >Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > >> That's quite a lot of assuming, Jay.... >> >> Let's talk about Protools HD, OK? >> >> For starters, the "HD" fixed point audio engine and headroom. >>0dBfs = clipping. >> >> Try a simple experiment. >> >> Insert a 20hz HP filter across a 100hz sinewave in Protools HD >>while monitoring the output level on an Analog VU meter across the >>stereo bus. When you engage the HP filter you will see a 3-6dB >>increase in signal level on the analog output for a signal that >>shouldn't be affected at all by that filter. >> >> This sort of signal condition is happening on every channel of >>Protools HD and the net result is that you run out of headroom and >>the signal clips, though the Protools meters won't reflect this >>because it's caused by intersample math overages. >> >> Logic, on the other hand uses a floating point audio engine, this >>gives over 1500dB of headroom, and retains the full 32 bit audio >>data at any attenuation or boost in level. That is what I call a " >>a properly programmed audio engine", my friend. >> >> But what do I know... ;-) * -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 22 02:30:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C4CD183460; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <458f4443abc7ce5ae03484b194208dc3.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <94080275-94D8-4FE1-9156-A7C822489DBA@gmail.com> References: <94080275-94D8-4FE1-9156-A7C822489DBA@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:30:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Incorporating some reverse and half speed-Bass loop vid From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi Todd, Sounds cool. I think you should keep them in. They add some nice textures. Andre http://islandfunk.com On Tue, June 21, 2011 4:02 pm, Todd Matthews wrote: > This is the same tune I've been working on but I'm trying to toss in some > reverse and half speed. Should I keep em in or keep trying? > > http://toddbass.com/new-bedroom-improv/ > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 22 04:45:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C292C18345C; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 04:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:41:57 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Exploration 416 video on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 04:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted another video on You Tube -- check it out at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMNg1smDoNQ Exploration 416 is an improvisation recorded at the 2011 Analog Heaven Northeast gathering at 119 Gallery in Lowell on April 16. AHNE (for short) is a gathering of musicians who play analog synthesizers. The main part of the event is an all day session in which the participants show off and explain their gear to each other. In the evening, those hardy few who are brave enough to perform in front of people and aren't already burned out have a jam session. They always invite me to do video and it is always fun. Exploration 416 is the first half of the first piece that we did that evening. BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 22 05:06:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7117D183462; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=y4toNnr+KnYt3dlx7m6eeikSBReSPw09+05vUbgUmCg=; b=esjIxAiTtdq7jMeT4jYoQV0H1frQKmfn52hmbpcOeNhUq8rI512jO/+42rWfyIT5mv 6gqg26i8GYINxJkEZJiyzIGQVU+t3TbLcfTQO1+4OJshj06cWI/09vjDwms3OoyKe6ea zJeACctAs7vBoecr7Y5yl9koGzfTCC2Sy4RwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CzCluj18pZIWmGQvKrZBjywqU7R03FoPgtASoy3YMXy76EDJ+VUou7a6ZW6g2obGxf 3MUIBLdbUQ3hAfL6syFyMSKGS8wP9Qq75Lg0antFBr5VFK9qTP/5wkKa/JaGjaeGgI/7 ykWlL/5z2F64vZJcSHjI17Dpn9bxnQcwCSYuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:06:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: WTB: Looperlative LP1 From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c4496a75eea04a645ef8f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:06:52 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c4496a75eea04a645ef8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone have one for sale? --0015174c4496a75eea04a645ef8f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone have one for sale? --0015174c4496a75eea04a645ef8f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 22 22:41:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABAED183452; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IQXscAmF7bUcI8GNdTMHEsc0gMwL7cYeSPCQ2reV3pA=; b=CwZOGHJhWROCi9EdMvSqEWS/FegobjsxmscbGJ9ZRTJeO0ovnK5/MZU6E0D2Sfls5R ON8zgD7rcbQJRnaaVnE/kfjhrd3sKKQkzcO+3QKbXD6oo0564dNmP3b8pIoyhf+c7r5a EDQUmr6VKf8+wEjfQapit/vH6uIQiFoCafsrA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fOGFVYfut1cmtuYhDg7poLryWF7CvArhQi88Q2Bw0Ff5riNEeCUO3nttrhZdDBDewf 0VjwgdyhPemcAYS2qiaYGgdB7fdpolb3S/12H9TFvbzyO6qBmR6Q5RWMLwmOgKt3Kq8e OuZqyYmzqTVPetCgl06FIDRyYaHOFUvjDx//E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:41:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Anyone using a sequencer? From: marcus kirby To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747869aa5223404a654a97b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:41:01 +0000 (UTC) --00151747869aa5223404a654a97b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to my moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various midi notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; dotted 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could use different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as well. The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. Any suggestions? --00151747869aa5223404a654a97b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to m= y moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals.

I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various mi= di notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; dott= ed 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could use= different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as well.=

The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. = Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would sequen= cing bass lines for my analog synth.

Any suggestions?

--00151747869aa5223404a654a97b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 00:39:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D572183462; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 00:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9xKPqGZCNphRVRtULmB8pLGJNDYp88jonwBNr4ttdt4=; b=IO+/1ZJc2UiAt401ZAWQH0S+128J2A+6BRWWHRpnNkttYg6klMFIncNPPWZQswqioR AvVdyOlF14Vu9kBABHMcvINHeVS2BT8I7TX1vNXeWfsLXDGOmt0X9zU7mMIT1KGMO2b6 RbNweg0mc+4UwaeUacVTJQf8Qo8D3mUyokPHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kA/JgqeH/E8Ih940nak0BpdliMRXB+5X8Wm2BRC1QJewIa5JAG76XVEy8cqR0OiieR 2hOrV20tAbBh3d2lXv/MuAIJORO9rg8k8pMFBKruK1ooSLBG8Ru8K8/+lxDua/toHMS/ EkFNKC08Q61PtrUPcUfxBKIw/WjmkrFAbp8HA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:39:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone using a sequencer? From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fcec5177fa304a656510f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 00:39:26 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fcec5177fa304a656510f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i have a good friend who has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of buying one but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with maschine, which is also really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if you ask dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mpc. anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're so much fun to play with...very cool music-making tools. - jim On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to my > moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. > > I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various midi > notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; dotted > 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could use > different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as well. > > The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. > Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would > sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. > > Any suggestions? > --90e6ba3fcec5177fa304a656510f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have a good friend who has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for yea= rs and loves it.=A0 solid as a rock and once you get used to it your workfl= ow can be extremely fast.=A0 i was toying with the notion of buying one but= since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with maschine, which is als= o really fucking cool.=A0 like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if = you ask dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mpc.=A0
anyhow, you can't go wrong either way.=A0 they're so much fun t= o play with...very cool music-making tools.

- jim

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I currently ha= ve an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to my moog mp, which = spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals.

I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various mi= di notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; dott= ed 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could use= different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as well.=

The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. = Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would sequen= cing bass lines for my analog synth.

Any suggestions?


--90e6ba3fcec5177fa304a656510f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 01:33:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DC0A183452; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=58Rr3cPFDLhgQrBaTU/phc5xTxqhlB3LgFGG0ELtsqA=; b=C7HxuGrhoPzY0PgFKRvrXlAiir1aWQhnB7fzkTPCPkCVSH9KraWJJ5YzgHHHxwhf6Q l8rWqlyCwBFiO76LbTQ2WgU8SRaPGip2XH/+1KBpM+rpa7hj48e4K5+t8xhwu2CrFRa+ ndhTnYYz0+TCU98NGZ8nmN4EM3bnQkWtUy0W8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=THkSnQSZcYjyTRKeMBCgSz83a+gXaZKXZXo/miriB626HK6CcEfU4lYEeO0zhv9vfy fwpjPNdqiTwNNAB6mNz+IgPNYbJoJbjie7o8Ty0fgfxZkvRvLE2zDN7GzL9qWHs5iHPe oscu1G7dHxDX/XdQUZEiFppopTKq3y8znGlOo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:33:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone using a sequencer? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747869a69d06104a65711fa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:33:12 +0000 (UTC) --00151747869a69d06104a65711fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I sold my maschine last week. Trying to stay away from the laptop when it comes to music. The main reason being the mess of syncing maschine, ableton, my moog mp, and looper. I wish native instruments would create a hardware piece that allowed you to dump the settings from the computer to the sequencer. On Jun 22, 2011 7:39 PM, "james fowler" wrote: > i have a good friend who has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for > years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your > workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of buying one > but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with maschine, which is also > really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if you ask > dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mpc. > > anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're so much fun to play > with...very cool music-making tools. > > - jim > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > >> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to my >> moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. >> >> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various midi >> notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; dotted >> 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could use >> different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as well. >> >> The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. >> Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would >> sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. >> >> Any suggestions? >> --00151747869a69d06104a65711fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I sold my maschine last week. Trying to stay away from the laptop when i= t comes to music. The main reason being the mess of syncing maschine, ablet= on, my moog mp, and looper.

I wish native instruments would create a hardware piece that allowed you= to dump the settings from the computer to the sequencer.

On Jun 22, 2011 7:39 PM, "james fowler"= ; <twostroke@gmail.com> wr= ote:
> i have a good friend who has used an MPC6= 0 mk2 (roger linn version) for
> years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your<= br>> workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of bu= ying one
> but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with ma= schine, which is also
> really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if= you ask
> dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mp= c.
>
> anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're= so much fun to play
> with...very cool music-making tools.
>
> - jim
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>= ;> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock t= o my
>> moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedal= s.
>>
>> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ab= ility to send various midi
>> notes to my echoplex, as well as sen= d subdivision info to the moog; dotted
>> 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I cou= ld use
>> different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for = my pedals as well.
>>
>> The mpc line looks ideal, and it= can send quite a bit of midi info out.
>> Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as wou= ld
>> sequencing bass lines for my analog synth.
>>
&g= t;> Any suggestions?
>>
--00151747869a69d06104a65711fa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 02:19:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AF33183464; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W45e0diSqLVnKwNoUmWdoYd+uXpxdE4KdeIj3szLNuM=; b=FoQU24NEbCXsntgQbwv9k5pst/IFkOPyasF3SuAbIZUcMlvps384EKAw7o9nxgEy/c Av/ifcVfYPpH5/cEv/UFzOJBKMDHuQ0OHl3jiIAalRk016kLafxvCk+rPnBvZf2BGdcg cblIof6mk8CUT3MBwYc5vL+Y2u51jABhFeG9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RmDuL5WYQWM0q18hkFTM4PzBYYaoqKDSpJrbrZ/nnWBh8H+4ri4eiPRE1lY2SOAxy9 osDz2wPld0d6Il2P/L7nYHh3JeZIcXf/ytzs1NLrZ7Q6Z9ZqMksxdqa4jL9km/LmNrEE WD+kz853Omhva352dT2KFI3RKewc8hIMxfElE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:19:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone using a sequencer? From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613baa2bf58304a657b6a5 Resent-Message-ID: <25aAM.A.poF.kKqAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:19:17 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba613baa2bf58304a657b6a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hmm...well, bidule makes it very easy to sync external gear w/ whatever is running inside. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I sold my maschine last week. Trying to stay away from the laptop when it > comes to music. The main reason being the mess of syncing maschine, ableton, > my moog mp, and looper. > > I wish native instruments would create a hardware piece that allowed you to > dump the settings from the computer to the sequencer. > On Jun 22, 2011 7:39 PM, "james fowler" wrote: > > i have a good friend who has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for > > years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your > > workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of buying > one > > but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with maschine, which is > also > > really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if you ask > > dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mpc. > > > > anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're so much fun to play > > with...very cool music-making tools. > > > > - jim > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby > wrote: > > > >> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to > my > >> moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. > >> > >> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various > midi > >> notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; > dotted > >> 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could use > >> different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as > well. > >> > >> The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. > >> Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would > >> sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. > >> > >> Any suggestions? > >> > --90e6ba613baa2bf58304a657b6a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm...well, bidule makes it very easy to sync external gear w/ whatever is = running inside.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9= :33 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I sold my masc= hine last week. Trying to stay away from the laptop when it comes to music.= The main reason being the mess of syncing maschine, ableton, my moog mp, a= nd looper.

I wish native instruments would create a hardware piece that allowed you= to dump the settings from the computer to the sequencer.

On Jun 22, 2011 7:39 PM, "james fowler"= ; <twostroke@gm= ail.com> wrote:
> i have a good friend wh= o has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for
> years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your<= br>> workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of bu= ying one
> but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with ma= schine, which is also
> really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if= you ask
> dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mp= c.
>
> anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're= so much fun to play
> with...very cool music-making tools.
>
> - jim
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrot= e:
>
>> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send = midi clock to my
>> moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedal= s.
>>
>> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ab= ility to send various midi
>> notes to my echoplex, as well as sen= d subdivision info to the moog; dotted
>> 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I cou= ld use
>> different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for = my pedals as well.
>>
>> The mpc line looks ideal, and it= can send quite a bit of midi info out.
>> Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as wou= ld
>> sequencing bass lines for my analog synth.
>>
&g= t;> Any suggestions?
>>

--90e6ba613baa2bf58304a657b6a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 02:31:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABCB818345E; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:31:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O3BTgMGjiGTJfzKQfKv/go0dqMgM9lC21EMkKo9ZPEw=; b=x09ZDukPUg7qDaXotVTqeIuZPECeaA6acKLZNrqmzF/rgletJO7w8y/G3bUz7mIVPm re+cK9zkTO/YFcgU9Y/hK2c8g5jdhp9ehH7QikYVg6Zbj8ydEcLncJCU/I8YXYLwxUe5 LjHFKBjszn8A77eb4NmllxlqxKcTkAfA7Uv5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WPcqYyBODmsHDOyOSCm02e8emNJ4LRqz478Wh3cdMU2qCv4KP14jpp6DWxgKscxW7n yqnrCjbF39OnnTHlKMK2uNM0kxkIf4XLva+2o0SzXXU3S1OnncUmy67B6ZanIeg5Q3vN zSB1Ad8L+DHaYkpTR3SFdDA3vtIChIOfKeE0A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:31:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone using a sequencer? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530ebcf49a8d04a657e187 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:31:31 +0000 (UTC) --002354530ebcf49a8d04a657e187 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, I was actually thinking about opening bidule up a few minutes ago. It would be quite a bit easier. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM, james fowler wrote: > hmm...well, bidule makes it very easy to sync external gear w/ whatever is > running inside. > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > >> I sold my maschine last week. Trying to stay away from the laptop when it >> comes to music. The main reason being the mess of syncing maschine, ableton, >> my moog mp, and looper. >> >> I wish native instruments would create a hardware piece that allowed you >> to dump the settings from the computer to the sequencer. >> On Jun 22, 2011 7:39 PM, "james fowler" wrote: >> > i have a good friend who has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for >> > years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your >> > workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of buying >> one >> > but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with maschine, which is >> also >> > really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if you >> ask >> > dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mpc. >> > >> > anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're so much fun to play >> > with...very cool music-making tools. >> > >> > - jim >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby >> wrote: >> > >> >> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to >> my >> >> moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. >> >> >> >> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various >> midi >> >> notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; >> dotted >> >> 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could >> use >> >> different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as >> well. >> >> >> >> The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. >> >> Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would >> >> sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> > > --002354530ebcf49a8d04a657e187 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I was actually thinking about opening bidule up a few minutes ago.
It would be quite a bit easier.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM, james fowler <= ;twostroke@gmail.com> = wrote:
hmm...well, bidule makes it very easy to sy= nc external gear w/ whatever is running inside.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM, marcus = kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I sold my maschine l= ast week. Trying to stay away from the laptop when it comes to music. The m= ain reason being the mess of syncing maschine, ableton, my moog mp, and loo= per.

I wish native instruments would create a hardware piece that allowed you= to dump the settings from the computer to the sequencer.

On Jun 22, 2011 7:39 PM, "james fowler"= ; <twostroke@gm= ail.com> wrote:
> i have a good friend wh= o has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for
> years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your<= br>> workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of bu= ying one
> but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with ma= schine, which is also
> really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if= you ask
> dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mp= c.
>
> anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're= so much fun to play
> with...very cool music-making tools.
>
> - jim
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrot= e:
>
>> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send = midi clock to my
>> moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedal= s.
>>
>> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ab= ility to send various midi
>> notes to my echoplex, as well as sen= d subdivision info to the moog; dotted
>> 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I cou= ld use
>> different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for = my pedals as well.
>>
>> The mpc line looks ideal, and it= can send quite a bit of midi info out.
>> Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as wou= ld
>> sequencing bass lines for my analog synth.
>>
&g= t;> Any suggestions?
>>


--002354530ebcf49a8d04a657e187-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 02:59:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59F53183462; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ryug142foqG/qK2qWBtflndaWe3cM2PE9oDeo/g/rNM=; b=VoBHGPva5+v8vUUv4G8FRua8kV6u3cXoN8b0tB0sJU8H2xwEQkbzoUjnBitbN+vPwT 0BBc0jA3sHz9ZFdG3cE44JO8eQC5iGOICyP826/LoLaSbcgzMUKI3I8ad5YVbYcQxXiO vFWU7Pdxf2h2MqxOSQJYND2cZuz74fCsdzht4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MG8nriQQGduQYkiv0bFVjChWx7UgWN1bEeOO8MyqlHY/vyil5pgnGF0mjeZxBcm7Rk KicFjKNMj3sjaTjAp7VrDWmVSnKE2qyCq2+mMSzhS47e/+gCIPPAI0OD5WCSGma/ScjN T8gBi02lx96xXQ0NGGSMF3iLW3RbslsOgJck0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:59:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone using a sequencer? From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6d020e752d604a65844aa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:59:11 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6d020e752d604a65844aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yeah, give it a rip. i really like their approach: they give you all the tools but do not dictate how you have to use them. you can get crazy complicated or you can literally use it as a router. i appreciate the lack of presumptuousness. - j On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:31 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > Yeah, I was actually thinking about opening bidule up a few minutes ago. > > It would be quite a bit easier. > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM, james fowler wrote: > >> hmm...well, bidule makes it very easy to sync external gear w/ whatever is >> running inside. >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM, marcus kirby wrote: >> >>> I sold my maschine last week. Trying to stay away from the laptop when it >>> comes to music. The main reason being the mess of syncing maschine, ableton, >>> my moog mp, and looper. >>> >>> I wish native instruments would create a hardware piece that allowed you >>> to dump the settings from the computer to the sequencer. >>> On Jun 22, 2011 7:39 PM, "james fowler" wrote: >>> > i have a good friend who has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for >>> > years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your >>> > workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of buying >>> one >>> > but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with maschine, which is >>> also >>> > really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if you >>> ask >>> > dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mpc. >>> > >>> > anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're so much fun to play >>> > with...very cool music-making tools. >>> > >>> > - jim >>> > >>> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to >>> my >>> >> moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. >>> >> >>> >> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various >>> midi >>> >> notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; >>> dotted >>> >> 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could >>> use >>> >> different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as >>> well. >>> >> >>> >> The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info >>> out. >>> >> Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would >>> >> sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. >>> >> >>> >> Any suggestions? >>> >> >>> >> >> > --000e0cd6d020e752d604a65844aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah, give it a rip.=A0 i really like their approach: they give you all the= tools but do not dictate how you have to use them.=A0 you can get crazy co= mplicated or you can literally use it as a router.=A0 i appreciate the lack= of presumptuousness.

- j

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:31 PM,= marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I was actually thinking about opening bidule up a few minutes ago.
It would be quite a bit easier.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM,= james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm...well, bidul= e makes it very easy to sync external gear w/ whatever is running inside.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM, marcus = kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I sold my masc= hine last week. Trying to stay away from the laptop when it comes to music.= The main reason being the mess of syncing maschine, ableton, my moog mp, a= nd looper.

I wish native instruments would create a hardware piece that allowed you= to dump the settings from the computer to the sequencer.

On Jun 22, 2011 7:39 PM, "james fowler"= ; <twostroke@gm= ail.com> wrote:
> i have a good friend wh= o has used an MPC60 mk2 (roger linn version) for
> years and loves it. solid as a rock and once you get used to it your<= br>> workflow can be extremely fast. i was toying with the notion of bu= ying one
> but since i'm 50% computer/50% hardware i went with ma= schine, which is also
> really fucking cool. like an mpc on steriods but i'm sure that if= you ask
> dj premier he'd tell you that nothing can touch the mp= c.
>
> anyhow, you can't go wrong either way. they're= so much fun to play
> with...very cool music-making tools.
>
> - jim
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrot= e:
>
>> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send = midi clock to my
>> moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedal= s.
>>
>> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ab= ility to send various midi
>> notes to my echoplex, as well as sen= d subdivision info to the moog; dotted
>> 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I cou= ld use
>> different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for = my pedals as well.
>>
>> The mpc line looks ideal, and it= can send quite a bit of midi info out.
>> Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as wou= ld
>> sequencing bass lines for my analog synth.
>>
&g= t;> Any suggestions?
>>



--000e0cd6d020e752d604a65844aa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 03:37:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A192183460; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 03:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E02B507.8000105@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:37:43 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marcus kirby CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Anyone using a sequencer? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 03:37:52 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > > I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to > my moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. > > I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various > midi notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the > moog; dotted 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool > if I could use different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for > my pedals as well. > > The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info > out. Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as > would sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. > > Any suggestions? > The Alesis SR-16 is a pretty sophisticated midi sequencer and costs a hell of a lot less than other fully dedicated solutions, especially if you just want to be sending sequenced commands to your EDP. http://cgi.ebay.com/ALESIS-SR-16-Bit-Stereo-Drum-Machine-sr16-w-BOX-Manual-/120740590022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1cb331c6#ht_1402wt_1141 Crap outdated drum sounds (but interesting when run through typical modulation and distortion stomp boxes and also, you can find dedicated 16 bit one rack hardware samplers for next to nothing these days if you want custom sounds to drive. **************************** Alesis also made a companion unit to their earlier HR-16 drum machine called the MM-T8 which was a dedicated 8 track sequencer. Archaic but no more archaic than the entire Midi language itself. Here's one that only has $20 bids on it with 2 days left in auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/Alesis-MMT-8-MIDI-Sequencer-8-tracks-x-16-channels-128-/160605042562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2564ce7782#ht_500wt_1156 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 03:43:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1AA3183466; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 03:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:43:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Using Kinect as a Controller From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b2deddd1a504a658e1ba Resent-Message-ID: <8gubxC.A.OqG.IZrAOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 03:43:05 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6b2deddd1a504a658e1ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > What's the software you're using again? > Space Palette consists of a bunch of programs that talk to each other. The stuff that talks to the Kinect is a C/C++ program I wrote, based on the Cinder framework and using the libfreenect and OpenCV libraries. That program sends out OSC (in TUIO format). The OSC is received by a KeyKit program I wrote that implements the MIDI/musical logic (including the looping). The OSC can also be received by a program written in Processing (i.e. Java) to generate graphics, so you can use the Palette to paint - for example each frame can be a different color/shape and the size of your brush corresponds to the depth of your hand. I use Plogue Bidule for the VST host and Omnisphere and Battery 3 for the sounds. I also wrote a GUI in Python that lets me control the parameters of both the Kinect program and the Keykit program. ...Tim... --000e0cd6b2deddd1a504a658e1ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What's the s= oftware you're using again?

Space P= alette consists of a bunch of programs that talk to each other. =A0The stuf= f that talks to the Kinect is a C/C++ program I wrote, based on the Cinder = framework and using the libfreenect and OpenCV libraries. =A0That program s= ends out OSC (in TUIO format). =A0The OSC is received by a KeyKit program I= wrote that implements the MIDI/musical logic (including the looping). =A0T= he OSC can also be received by a program written in Processing (i.e. Java) = to generate graphics, so you can use the Palette to paint - for example eac= h frame can be a different color/shape and the size of your brush correspon= ds to the depth of your hand. =A0I use Plogue Bidule for the VST host and O= mnisphere and Battery 3 for the sounds. =A0I also wrote a GUI in Python tha= t lets me control the parameters of both the Kinect program and the Keykit = program.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0...Tim...

--000e0cd6b2deddd1a504a658e1ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 13:36:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E989183464; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=h7mjT+Udjdlh17iK9h5yzu8BTVAQjUpeji4BtkqCD/zukVikXM43TcqeVgZgSluI; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:36:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Anyone using a sequencer? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7956ae7dd57b79b3b11c101497991890cc350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:36:45 +0000 (UTC) You wanna buy mine? ;-) Dr. T's KCS.. runs on my Atari 1040st... ah memories... >I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock >to my moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based >pedals. > >I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send >various midi notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info >to the moog; dotted 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It >would be cool if I could use different drum sampler to trigger >different rhythms for my pedals as well. > >The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info >out. Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as >would sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. > >Any suggestions? -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 18:04:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E6E7183473; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 989 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:04:00 UTC Message-ID: <4E037C42.2000607@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:47:46 +0100 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gig Spam - London Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1382 [1513/3721] X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: <_3t-4D.A.QI.QA4AOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:04:00 +0000 (UTC) For the benefit of anyone living in or visiting London in early July: Long time musical collaborators Dave Draper & Ntshuks Bonga will be launching their new CD “Snow in November” released on the FMR label on 5th July 2011 at the Others. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3721 - Release Date: 06/23/11 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 19:46:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A382183460; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id :date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=7kgouo480tXoONPlKLfId6savinzJRptJCorZZrMuDQ=; b=TZmXHopkTo9FPLaNq3S5Wsox9NQfppTMchzTYqVMB294vr9r69OIwoXFRn7C7J32fX shoMKvwtIK+wmfRGyBCXtzqiD5tD5TSCytKytv9OWqFSbRM0821qcQOc6ahvHV3nyWhO elooN0YWsGw/sDFI7CALWn+QmfCrNfTtnHVoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=ZBxQbUnKeVkmjrYGI/IAa2/d5FWnzQQ381HXILw0xa2nx9qaRTUp2W2hGHJUDGDB1J zne9IktenNUKqyOZAxdndxGIa1AB6uvoZfRlFhBvyOj87oru7kXgnMeuF9dBZbXOS22b 69NQaNNW/mzr7GMUMBr6/8jtncJOTqZo4R7MY= Subject: More Echoplex questions. From: Timothy Miller Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--161279108 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) Message-Id: <626CD7E5-2F30-4DC0-B0A3-3F4160EE9BF4@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:46:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:46:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-22--161279108 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey guys, Sorry that I am bothering you helping me out to help my customer, but I am g= oing through a lot and am unable to completely assist. Plus I'm terrible whe= n it comes to troubleshooting via e-mail. "Few questions about the Echoplex. When I turn the Feedback lower than 127, t= he loop just fades away. Is it supposed to do that? Also, having trouble wit= h the "Mix" function...because it changes the volume of every instrument i h= ave running through the loop, even though their EQ's on the mixer are balanc= ed. Any way you might be able to help me with this?? Chris" Sent from my iPhone= --Apple-Mail-22--161279108 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hey guys,

Sorry that I am bothering you hel= ping me out to help my customer, but I am going through a lot and am unable t= o completely assist. Plus I'm terrible when it comes to troubleshooting via e= -mail.

"Few questions about the Echoplex. When I turn the Feedback lower than 127,= the loop just fades away. Is it supposed to do that? Also, having trouble w= ith the "Mix" function...because it changes the volume of every instrument i= have running through the loop, even though their EQ's on the mixer are bala= nced. Any way you might be able to help me with this??

Chris"

Sent from m= y iPhone
= --Apple-Mail-22--161279108-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 20:01:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98CF5183473; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 627305006/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.24.105/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.24.105 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgCAKuaA05YbRhp/2dsb2JhbAAMRoRJlAXIUpBwgSuDeIEKBJZJizg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,414,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="627305006" Message-ID: <4E039B87.50903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:01:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Echoplex questions. References: <626CD7E5-2F30-4DC0-B0A3-3F4160EE9BF4@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <626CD7E5-2F30-4DC0-B0A3-3F4160EE9BF4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Your customer has a perfectly working edp. ...and should be referred to the manual. You could tell him to put the edp on an Aux send and turn the mix control to fully Wet. ...at the risk he asks you equally dumb questions about his mixer ;-) andy Timothy Miller wrote: > Hey guys, > > Sorry that I am bothering you helping me out to help my customer, but I > am going through a lot and am unable to completely assist. Plus I'm > terrible when it comes to troubleshooting via e-mail. > > "Few questions about the Echoplex. When I turn the Feedback lower than > 127, the loop just fades away. Is it supposed to do that? Also, having > trouble with the "Mix" function...because it changes the volume of every > instrument i have running through the loop, even though their EQ's on > the mixer are balanced. Any way you might be able to help me with this?? > > Chris" > > Sent from my iPhone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 21:02:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5B28183463; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rv0S6My+uHtEibytDiiBxvfuaHLpkbFfZD+mB4KurvM=; b=OvPaGnzVM06OnYBQX9RvsPMS5vy/qxPvsX/1t68S9vpznVeq/PIUvj9udXIYFmPmvJ hJbh51nz2rmdcphgDFsXMVK6IZjGi3+9jZAGm1cyuLPly2I/YJ2PFLryBC4Njl4vx66/ UsuN2zhOcXm/Rtss4xVBp7OTvRaAe0RhjHAdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mqwQAERFedwyMNnkvYBpQOH4rmAaVmAwjRawec8raw0LbyeXXshPFh9abmJtrlmaSv GQqfOUtsH58P/MfKATK0ANWWrbkSa2GNpudXKP60KY6d6s8DYYQHLI0g1GwHsJALeeER /U6B1aloT8FJA52LB/smi25WstnkBgF9wcoRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E039B87.50903@tiscali.co.uk> References: <626CD7E5-2F30-4DC0-B0A3-3F4160EE9BF4@gmail.com> <4E039B87.50903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:02:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Echoplex questions. From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305643094d58a604a667682c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:02:49 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305643094d58a604a667682c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 haha, I'll keep that in mind. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:01 PM, andy butler wrote: > Your customer has a perfectly working edp. > > ...and should be referred to the manual. > > You could tell him to put the edp on an Aux > send and turn the mix control to fully Wet. > > ...at the risk he asks you equally dumb questions about his mixer ;-) > > > > andy > > > Timothy Miller wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> Sorry that I am bothering you helping me out to help my customer, but I am >> going through a lot and am unable to completely assist. Plus I'm terrible >> when it comes to troubleshooting via e-mail. >> >> "Few questions about the Echoplex. When I turn the Feedback lower than >> 127, the loop just fades away. Is it supposed to do that? Also, having >> trouble with the "Mix" function...because it changes the volume of every >> instrument i have running through the loop, even though their EQ's on the >> mixer are balanced. Any way you might be able to help me with this?? >> >> Chris" >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > -- Sincerely, Tim --20cf305643094d58a604a667682c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable haha, I'll keep that in mind.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:01 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tisca= li.co.uk> wrote:
Your customer has a perfectly wo= rking edp.

...and should be referred to the manual.

You could= tell him to put the edp on an Aux
send and turn the mix control to fully Wet.

...at the risk he asks y= ou equally dumb questions about his mixer ;-)


andy=20


Timothy Miller wrote:
Hey guys,

Sorry that I am= bothering you helping me out to help my customer, but I am going through a= lot and am unable to completely assist. Plus I'm terrible when it come= s to troubleshooting via e-mail.

"Few questions about the Echoplex. When I turn the Feedback lower = than 127, the loop just fades away. Is it supposed to do that? Also, having= trouble with the "Mix" function...because it changes the volume = of every instrument i have running through the loop, even though their EQ&#= 39;s on the mixer are balanced. Any way you might be able to help me with t= his??

Chris"

Sent from my iPhone

=



--
Sincerely,
Tim
--20cf305643094d58a604a667682c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 21:51:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B22EC183466; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Phil Clevenger MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-6--153778972" Subject: Re: More Echoplex questions. Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:51:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <626CD7E5-2F30-4DC0-B0A3-3F4160EE9BF4@gmail.com> <4E039B87.50903@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:51:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--153778972 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Maybe he'd have a better initial experience running in Delay mode? On Jun 23, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: > haha, I'll keep that in mind. >=20 > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:01 PM, andy butler = wrote: > Your customer has a perfectly working edp. >=20 > ...and should be referred to the manual. >=20 > You could tell him to put the edp on an Aux > send and turn the mix control to fully Wet. >=20 > ...at the risk he asks you equally dumb questions about his mixer ;-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 > Timothy Miller wrote: > Hey guys, >=20 > Sorry that I am bothering you helping me out to help my customer, but = I am going through a lot and am unable to completely assist. Plus I'm = terrible when it comes to troubleshooting via e-mail. >=20 > "Few questions about the Echoplex. When I turn the Feedback lower than = 127, the loop just fades away. Is it supposed to do that? Also, having = trouble with the "Mix" function...because it changes the volume of every = instrument i have running through the loop, even though their EQ's on = the mixer are balanced. Any way you might be able to help me with this?? >=20 > Chris" >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Sincerely, > Tim --Apple-Mail-6--153778972 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Maybe he'd have a better initial experience running in Delay mode?

On Jun 23, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:

haha, I'll keep that in mind.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:01 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Your customer has a perfectly working edp.

...and should be referred to the manual.

You could tell him to put the edp on an Aux
send and turn the mix control to fully Wet.

...at the risk he asks you equally dumb questions about his mixer ;-)



andy


Timothy Miller wrote:
Hey guys,

Sorry that I am bothering you helping me out to help my customer, but I am going through a lot and am unable to completely assist. Plus I'm terrible when it comes to troubleshooting via e-mail.

"Few questions about the Echoplex. When I turn the Feedback lower than 127, the loop just fades away. Is it supposed to do that? Also, having trouble with the "Mix" function...because it changes the volume of every instrument i have running through the loop, even though their EQ's on the mixer are balanced. Any way you might be able to help me with this??

Chris"

Sent from my iPhone




--
Sincerely,
Tim

--Apple-Mail-6--153778972-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 22:12:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47529183463; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E03BA34.7010901@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:12:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:12:08 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Rain Falls in Grey" by Radio Massacre International, on Cuneiform Records. Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jun You will hear music by Mark Jenkins who will be playing next month at the Soundscapes Concert Series. Membership week at WDIY is over but your contributions are still important. To make it even more rewarding to become a member, you can get Klaus Schulze DVDs *added* to the regular thank you gifts that are offered. Tune in to Galactic Travels for details or visit the website. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 23 22:23:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 509CE183465; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fb6ece9e-15c5-4c17-90f1-41b5519115bc_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Anyone using a sequencer? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:23:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2011 22:23:30.0035 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DFEB430:01CC31F4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:23:31 +0000 (UTC) --_fb6ece9e-15c5-4c17-90f1-41b5519115bc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You need an OctaTrack=2C eight midi tracks whoch you can live record to... = eight "normal" track that can play samples=2C have sequenced effects=2C pit= ch shift=2C rate shift apply effects=2C eight RECODERS that allows you to s= ample and replay live.. as well as pitch (and play the sample via midi). Di= ffrent length of tracks allows for polyrhytmic stuff=2C great effects. MPC'= s are not that good at live sampling.. (as you can tell I love the OctaTrac= k) OS1 will probaly come in september=2C i believe beta is on for OS1 (and = the beta OS has better MIDI that the current 0.998=2C or a believe so =3B-)= ) There might even be a LOOPING machine in future upgrades.... already the= OctaTrack is a amazing and unique machine (rave over) Date: Wed=2C 22 Jun 2011 17:41:00 -0500 Subject: Anyone using a sequencer? From: marcusloops@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to my m= oog mp=2C which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various midi = notes to my echoplex=2C as well as send subdivision info to the moog=3B dot= ted 8th on delay=2C quarter note on trem=2C etc. It would be cool if I coul= d use different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as = well. The mpc line looks ideal=2C and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. S= ince it can also function as a sampler=2C that would be rad=2C as would seq= uencing bass lines for my analog synth. Any suggestions? = --_fb6ece9e-15c5-4c17-90f1-41b5519115bc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You need an OctaTrack=2C eight midi tracks whoch you can live record to... = eight "normal" track that can play samples=2C have sequenced effects=2C pit= ch shift=2C rate shift apply effects=2C eight RECODERS that allows you to s= ample and replay live.. as well as pitch (and play the sample via midi). Di= ffrent length of tracks allows for polyrhytmic stuff=2C great effects. MPC'= s are not that good at live sampling.. (as you can tell I love the OctaTrac= k) OS1 will probaly come in september=2C i believe beta is on for OS1 (and = the beta OS has better MIDI that the current 0.998=2C or a believe so =3B-)= ) =3B
There might even be a LOOPING machine in future upgrades....= already the OctaTrack is a amazing and unique machine (rave over)


Date: Wed=2C 22 Jun 2011 17:41:00 -0= 500
Subject: Anyone using a sequencer?
From: marcusloops@gmail.comTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I currently have an electri= be sampler that I use to send midi clock to my moog mp=2C which spits out c= v/midi to my looper and time-based pedals.
I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various midi = notes to my echoplex=2C as well as send subdivision info to the moog=3B dot= ted 8th on delay=2C quarter note on trem=2C etc. It would be cool if I coul= d use different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as = well.
The mpc line looks ideal=2C and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. S= ince it can also function as a sampler=2C that would be rad=2C as would seq= uencing bass lines for my analog synth.
Any suggestions?
= --_fb6ece9e-15c5-4c17-90f1-41b5519115bc_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 02:13:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3159183464; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=F2J77pSbkVzXXI66zSPHMXVxj05A47ioz85/rlk5qRg=; b=G8TOMvRtYK8VX0Am0W2/Mu3ETZ2hmRI4WAmdKDDVtrKr6pEUmnuTGxaurRBc6JGwmA JPophc/0/yNBN39oCIWCD7zskweo+pKKJrK6y2lu7coWCjAAUx8vhVsJ2cEEvwyjee+3 51I/GlsDs/QQrye3H215pRdzvKtRZ58UIURFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Uz1wgpgXeo8h97xLIQjDxxoBTr31D5N/nYZ5BevKONrhCXUY2rVEjqPgFMTndkPSkv oziTsMovgtemia+5JVS2j1sKjNtX0ovm4kmCX6I3mCrkEXmTpPN88ZZNUdf10g/LLFzc FPoZFmbVkdte/XGhfPkeGwbhT4La3h7ZPocLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:13:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: New song From: Jason Finnern To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52be66163e24b04a66bbe22 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:13:14 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52be66163e24b04a66bbe22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just finished writing and recording this song with my good friend Stephen Counts...Hope you like it.. Thanks, Jason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqLBxEWTGVw --bcaec52be66163e24b04a66bbe22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--bcaec52be66163e24b04a66bbe22-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 06:14:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E065183463; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rZikO7UOuBJT8rglHV40+qVORge9tYOEnvluhTwmx4I=; b=Cksj/s8m7/07WUrsbVXxwNX1GcCB416b+4+lf0kivp/f9bXyHsLEfm7D4K5GHDG7H8 BwhbGzvI/DZXDwyy9hrZO8vJikake3PYDtQd4RlwZOMJIFaG4eIkR0ZtelqxPrYY09jL kmq57BJNAlspkdbDAAqxSDljYyeVP0q8wpx7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WoL/rQsrfH5gJf7UWXWh3ECVL9c7G2exUltsmoCzmbkS4m9LtnBfT6REixVHGcOXn3 Szo/9b8uPcIDxh5izZIMWBWdhMgxgkOXOQkLdJtKWRR42mGcY1QXaRA2gSNjZxdZxygq OakBpWBqWkpFYfJ5otoQJYpGdimoI3KJL/hoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:14:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audiomulch and Mobius From: John Singletary To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Great, thanks so much Jeff. Best, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 14:07:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A48AC183466; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2773 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:07:31 UTC From: Michael Tyson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--98007070 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?=93Ableton_style=94_looper_for_the_iPhone_--_Fr?= =?windows-1252?Q?ee_Promotional_Copies?= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:21:14 +0200 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:07:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--98007070 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Looper's Delight members,=20 We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that = combines power with simplicity.=20 The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper = for the iPhone we=92ve seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons = =93Loopy is the only iPhone app I would use to show off with!=94 We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good = use, and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a few free = promotional copies.=20 The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will receive a = free promotional copy of Loopy 2! =20 Thanks again and happy looping!=20 --=20 Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without others! Now = available. Subscribe to our newsletter e: michael@atastypixel.com skype/aim: mikerusselltyson twitter: MichaelTyson --Apple-Mail-1--98007070 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Loopy = 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that combines power = with simplicity. 

The guys over at iOS = Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for = the iPhone we=92ve seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons =93Loopy is the = only iPhone app I would use to show off with!=94

We thought some of you would be interested in = putting Loopy 2 to good use, and we'd also like to say thank you for = your input with a few free promotional copies. 

The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will = receive a free promotional copy of Loopy = 2!  

Thanks again and happy = looping! 

A Tasty Pixel: Delectable = apps for iPhone and Mac

Loopy 2: A = savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without others! Now = available.


Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:21:03 +0000 (UTC) --============_-903190034==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Looks GREAT!! Any 1/2 speed or reverse playback options? CZ >Hi Looper's Delight members, > > >We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live >looper for the iPhone that combines power with simplicity. > >The guys over at iOS >Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for the iPhone >we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub >FX reckons "Loopy is the only iPhone app I would use to show off >with!" > >We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to >good use, and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a >few free promotional copies. > >The first 9 people to email us at >support@atastypixel.com will receive >a free promotional copy of Loopy 2! > > >Thanks again and happy looping! > >-- >Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com >A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac > >Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new looper app. >Plays well without others! Now available. > >Subscribe to our newsletter > >e: michael@atastypixel.com >skype/aim: mikerusselltyson >twitter: MichaelTyson -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-903190034==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: "Ableton style" looper for the iPhone -- Fr ee Promot
Looks GREAT!!  Any 1/2 speed or reverse playback options?

CZ

Hi Looper's Delight members,


We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that combines power with simplicity.

The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for the iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons "Loopy is the only iPhone app I would use to show off with!"

We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good use, and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a few free promotional copies.

The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will receive a free promotional copy of Loopy 2!  


Thanks again and happy looping!

-- 
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac

Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without others! Now available.

Subscribe to our newsletter

e: michael@atastypixel.com
skype/aim: mikerusselltyson
twitter: MichaelTyson


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-903190034==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 18:21:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 961E2183463; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ljQPCGZc7suyo8K4chtn0mLzqxvM3cTgqObGegoxe5Y=; b=JAVbzQPheqo5JPTjw02UHDwsgkciJIcoXLcHj1OxwPmPMVZFa3ovraJYSV+U2wQStP NZtcuDpISfSViu7KPFSI8KHEAy3kfvu7wPv9xsGPt2VG3ivq17rkqV0LB6rWRysJmz8d InKhawMXzSfug5iZdgkO+I2W0zjfOgl+Drb3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nsqCvkuf4zX70kW2Iy26WEBHAfQlUA2O4gx0bBCoKg0Mb3mvSIxHhrwZml4CyMXbLa 475ytnLlztAxPnejurpWBHjTCaFMpq+GTnc+Z8Rel9Ku8gBboI0EewAEnZVpUbDkQcA5 UynQm07GR/OT2FOSSZC3f8poignhJqOqCqmxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:21:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: rocktron midimate From: Alexandre Klinke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopers, After my FCB1010 broke, I decided to get a different midi pedal. It was suggested to me to get a Rocktron Midimate. My question is if I can do the same kind of setup I'm used to with this pedal. I loop using either Sooperlooper or Mobius as a plugin in Ableton Live. My FCB was programmed to send midi notes, so they work as on/off switches. I noticed the rocktron doesn't send midi notes. Is there a way for me to program this pedal and get the same results using CC and PC messages? Thanks!! Alex alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 18:33:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF057183465; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-24_07:2011-06-24,2011-06-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106240150 Subject: Re: rocktron midimate From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:33:04 -0700 Message-id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Recommend that you stick with Midi NOTES. I found CC and PC difficult to manage in Mobius. The Brilliant Per may have insights that would have made this easier for me... D On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Alexandre Klinke wrote: > Hello loopers, > > After my FCB1010 broke, I decided to get a different midi pedal. > It was suggested to me to get a Rocktron Midimate. My question is if I > can do the same kind of setup I'm used to with this pedal. > I loop using either Sooperlooper or Mobius as a plugin in Ableton Live. > My FCB was programmed to send midi notes, so they work as on/off switches. > I noticed the rocktron doesn't send midi notes. Is there a way for me > to program this pedal and get the same results using CC and PC > messages? > Thanks!! > Alex > > > alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 18:33:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A53718348A; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=87K+Sw6CyIPziFRXhLC4x3jEjechXSXRhhxYmbweO/g=; b=AfmVFJem7gI+9krEUrjGN0xcDz6iCdJa2J5zMDyqMRIAXTQXZ0jJj2d7i4jL3QXKpe pVZQxgGDnWUg9KieZCojETyIwg6GWhqw4Lz0sHEO5czpZn5I4r8l3b/WEHXGyUQTmSI9 AmsR0qH+BQf56S+HQ6OVEpfKnjnMMH1vA8Odg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OkT0kH6HdHLA4x325NoGxC6wSYvzXIF4w3k3PG7nKomQCIN016V6l1NdbcPMcnbFQ3 eDf4vhjWziykFlXUm6oOdPy9dKf8l0vLS3AoNXZyoN+SLFnndf/ZAXkMUmzDoiWnKa8o 6CwlxMJ3ZmrwcmE/MOLLIP+XnIfWmLaO1sdaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:33:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rocktron midimate From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a441ceb41e04a6796ea9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:33:12 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a441ceb41e04a6796ea9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Alexandre Klinke > I loop using either Sooperlooper or Mobius as a plugin in Ableton Live. > My FCB was programmed to send midi notes, so they work as on/off switches. > I noticed the rocktron doesn't send midi notes. Is there a way for me > to program this pedal and get the same results using CC and PC > messages? Mobius can be controlled with either CC or PC events, I'm not sure about SooperLooper but I think it can too. The problem i had with the MidiMate is that you have fewer number of buttons available. It has been a long time since I looked at this but I think you have at most 5 buttons in one "bank" and the number of banks is less than the FCB. I don't remember if it supported "momentary" switches, where it sends one thing when you press the switch and sends another thing when you release it. If it doesn't then you would be able to use any of the "sustain" or "long press" features of Mobius. Since it was more expensive than the FCB it never interested me, but it is smaller so if you don't need many buttons or pedals it might be an option for you. The manual should be available online. Jeff --001636c5a441ceb41e04a6796ea9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Alexandre Klinke<= /div>
> I loop using either Sooperlooper or Mobius as a plugin in Ab= leton Live.
> My FCB was programmed to send midi notes, so the= y work as on/off switches.
> I noticed the rocktron doesn't send midi notes. Is there a wa= y for me
> to program this pedal and get the same results usin= g CC and PC
> messages?

Mobius can be= controlled with either CC or PC events, I'm not sure
about SooperLooper but I think it can too.

Th= e problem i had with the MidiMate is that you have fewer number of
buttons available. =A0It has been a long time since I looked at this but<= /div>
I think you have at most 5 buttons in one "bank" and the num= ber of
banks is less than the FCB. =A0I don't remember if it = supported "momentary"
switches, where it sends one thin= g when you press the switch and
sends another thing when you release it. =A0If it doesn't then you= would
be able to use any of the "sustain" or "lon= g press" features of Mobius.
Since it was more expensive tha= n the FCB it never interested me, but
it is smaller so if you don't need many buttons or pedals it might= be an option
for you.

The manual should= be available online.

Jeff


--001636c5a441ceb41e04a6796ea9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 18:36:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC721183486; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BbWp7NdtKXstvXHEZ8KXmCVCTZWUmzX7Id9qFC0/hcw=; b=j2Ey24+j/WTa/BFxT0CDw+kXA0QJ3VSpmqbbezEWmsIFMds5r0z/ejYsW2pp7mOnTn HOA1NPYpskeN0/kOclCUkAyfd6raRRW7RBkEQElEW0QJLFriuUjWbpcUUz98U/aMqG6u +BJSvmFbcZd4CP0OVAEL3zE3GFTIxA5h43CWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LVzBymZWqOsw7+VcuIs4uv484d9CvVoWZJB1MLCK14qrVuoc68QE2/fnAaMxHM7epk gcIBhDSIeP/nRIzE0HOV52IsFUEKFeIYuvx0uxp65Yq5Vm21buixbOKyRGjhbL8Ya7yT SDuUZruvItGru6mGSKe1wWo1t3YSQur5YQb2k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:36:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rocktron midimate From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a441b5102f04a6797aff Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:36:29 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a441b5102f04a6797aff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Daniel Thomas > Recommend that you stick with Midi NOTES. I found CC and PC difficult > to manage in Mobius. PC should work fine. The trick with using CCs is that Mobius expects the footswitch to send CC greater than zero when you press the switch and CC zero when you release the switch. Not all footswitches support that. If they don't then Mobius will think you are doing a "long press" and various unwanted things will happen. Jeff --001636c5a441b5102f04a6797aff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Daniel Thomas
> Rec= ommend that you stick with Midi NOTES. =A0I found CC and PC difficult
=
> to manage in Mobius.=A0

PC should work f= ine. =A0The trick with using CCs is that Mobius expects
the footswitch to send CC greater than zero when you press the switch<= /div>
and CC zero when you release the switch. =A0Not all footswitches<= /div>
support that. =A0If they don't then Mobius will think you are= doing
a "long press" and various unwanted things will happen.

Jeff

--001636c5a441b5102f04a6797aff-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 18:45:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2CB9183466; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-24_07:2011-06-24,2011-06-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106240150 Subject: Re: rocktron midimate From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:45:48 -0700 Message-id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:45:50 +0000 (UTC) > PC should work fine. The trick with using CCs is that Mobius expects > the footswitch to send CC greater than zero when you press the switch > and CC zero when you release the switch. Not all footswitches > support that. If they don't then Mobius will think you are doing > a "long press" and various unwanted things will happen. I encountered this exact prob with Mobius and FCB 1010 d On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Daniel Thomas > > Recommend that you stick with Midi NOTES. I found CC and PC difficult > > to manage in Mobius. > > PC should work fine. The trick with using CCs is that Mobius expects > the footswitch to send CC greater than zero when you press the switch > and CC zero when you release the switch. Not all footswitches > support that. If they don't then Mobius will think you are doing > a "long press" and various unwanted things will happen. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 18:52:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D331183475; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vhq10M23pZ/dFg+1+bUPXAJ7DISFu10c3GpCXldxNAE=; b=tHkI4dRogjslp16wd1G2GYPYLTAil1MQyAaRgDEPVlDnn5aJChE5WDKq+RixCtpBy7 XZeYt4Ugg1sv8Px5CiD7J3Fr3JDkBHn7eobI69WzCW6Csi0UnPQQEzyupDj/YhU/LYoH PZKM7EgTw8gsi4g8ZHZkbe5Pm2vFiHMLeE0Rg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o+r8lHSabYs3vhFkzSNlcqiIemu4mItWL+Hn8FFMCDYdMpUgL8WmAOo/aicHhNJbq5 KxzUNymIaC6/+hlH6QrVDaMuKG9pjYoiZmUDljTp9SU8XXtEK2hcIvraz9Jdtr+ws3U6 D1JDhvPAfFpKhKrAUrmUepeOIap1zYGeo5uds= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:52:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RE: Anyone using a sequencer? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151744866c21738d04a679b5cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:52:48 +0000 (UTC) --00151744866c21738d04a679b5cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can you explain your setup or link me to a previous explanation of using the octatrack? On Jun 23, 2011 5:23 PM, "Anders Bergdahl" wrote: > > You need an OctaTrack, eight midi tracks whoch you can live record to... eight "normal" track that can play samples, have sequenced effects, pitch shift, rate shift apply effects, eight RECODERS that allows you to sample and replay live.. as well as pitch (and play the sample via midi). Diffrent length of tracks allows for polyrhytmic stuff, great effects. MPC's are not that good at live sampling.. (as you can tell I love the OctaTrack) OS1 will probaly come in september, i believe beta is on for OS1 (and the beta OS has better MIDI that the current 0.998, or a believe so ;-) ) There might even be a LOOPING machine in future upgrades.... already the OctaTrack is a amazing and unique machine (rave over) > > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:41:00 -0500 > Subject: Anyone using a sequencer? > From: marcusloops@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi clock to my moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based pedals. > I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to send various midi notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to the moog; dotted 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if I could use different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my pedals as well. > > The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi info out. Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as would sequencing bass lines for my analog synth. > Any suggestions? --00151744866c21738d04a679b5cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Can you explain your setup or link me to a previous explanation of using= the octatrack?

On Jun 23, 2011 5:23 PM, "Anders Bergdahl&q= uot; <anders_e_bergdahl= @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> You need = an OctaTrack, eight midi tracks whoch you can live record to... eight "= ;normal" track that can play samples, have sequenced effects, pitch sh= ift, rate shift apply effects, eight RECODERS that allows you to sample and= replay live.. as well as pitch (and play the sample via midi). Diffrent le= ngth of tracks allows for polyrhytmic stuff, great effects. MPC's are n= ot that good at live sampling.. (as you can tell I love the OctaTrack) OS1 = will probaly come in september, i believe beta is on for OS1 (and the beta = OS has better MIDI that the current 0.998, or a believe so ;-) ) There migh= t even be a LOOPING machine in future upgrades.... already the OctaTrack is= a amazing and unique machine (rave over)
>
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:41:00 -0500
> Subject: Anyone= using a sequencer?
> From: = marcusloops@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> I currently have an electribe sampler that I use to send midi= clock to my moog mp, which spits out cv/midi to my looper and time-based p= edals.
> I think I need a sequencer though. I need the ability to sen= d various midi notes to my echoplex, as well as send subdivision info to th= e moog; dotted 8th on delay, quarter note on trem, etc. It would be cool if= I could use different drum sampler to trigger different rhythms for my ped= als as well.
>
> The mpc line looks ideal, and it can send quite a bit of midi= info out. Since it can also function as a sampler, that would be rad, as w= ould sequencing bass lines for my analog synth.
> Any suggestions? =
--00151744866c21738d04a679b5cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 19:00:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC4A51834A1; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Phil Clevenger MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-7--77672175" Subject: Re: "Ableton style" looper for the iPhone -- Fr ee Promotional Copies Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:00:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-ID: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:00:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--77672175 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, as a UI designer myself, I must applaud your lovely UI.=20 Honestly, I'd love to have this on my iPad as a visualizer and = controller for my EDP - ! V2? Best, Phil :) On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Looks GREAT!! Any 1/2 speed or reverse playback options? >=20 > CZ >=20 >> Hi Looper's Delight members, >>=20 >>=20 >> We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that = combines power with simplicity. >>=20 >> The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best = looper for the iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX = reckons "Loopy is the only iPhone app I would use to show off with!" >>=20 >> We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good = use, and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a few free = promotional copies. >>=20 >> The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will = receive a free promotional copy of Loopy 2! =20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks again and happy looping! >>=20 >> --=20 >> Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com >> A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac >>=20 >> Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without others! = Now available. >>=20 >> Subscribe to our newsletter >>=20 >> e: michael@atastypixel.com >> skype/aim: mikerusselltyson >> twitter: MichaelTyson >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix --Apple-Mail-7--77672175 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Yes, as a UI designer myself, I must applaud your = lovely UI. 

Honestly, I'd love to have this on = my iPad as a visualizer and controller for my EDP - = !

V2?

Best,
Phil = :)



On = Jun 24, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote:

We've recently = launched Loopy 2 -- a = live looper for the iPhone that combines power with = simplicity.
The guys over = at iOS = Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for the = iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons "Loopy is = the only iPhone app I would use to show off = with!"
We thought some of you = would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good use, and we'd also like = to say thank you for your input with a few free promotional = copies.
The first 9 people = to email us at support@atastypixel.com=  will receive a = free promotional copy of Loopy = 2!  
Thanks again and happy = looping!
-- 
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for = iPhone and Mac

Loopy = 2: A savvy, tactile new looper = app. Plays well without others! Now = available.

Subscribe to our = newsletter

e: michael@atastypixel.com
skype/aim: = mikerusselltyson
twitter: MichaelTyson


--=20

= --Apple-Mail-7--77672175-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 20:28:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D613A183473; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: "Ableton style" looper for the iPhone -- Fr ee Promotional Copies References: From: Michael Tyson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-43--72408957 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:27:48 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:28:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-43--72408957 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks!! Half speed - at present, only available by manually adjusting the BPM, but d= ynamic tempo scaling is there. Reverse is coming shortly, as well as a host of planned effects (which could= include 1/2 speed quite easily) --=20 Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the formu= la. Now available: loopyapp.com Subscribe to our newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter e: michael@atastypixel.com skype/aim: mikerusselltyson twitter: MichaelTyson On 24 Jun 2011, at 18:20, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Looks GREAT!! Any 1/2 speed or reverse playback options? >=20 > CZ >=20 >> Hi Looper's Delight members, >=20 >>=20 >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that comb= ines power with simplicity. >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper fo= r the iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons "Loopy i= s the only iPhone app I would use to show off with!" >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good use= , and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a few free promoti= onal copies. >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will receive a f= ree promotional copy of Loopy 2! =20 >=20 >>=20 >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> Thanks again and happy looping! >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> --=20 >=20 >> Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com >=20 >> A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without others! Now a= vailable. >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> Subscribe to our newsletter >=20 >>=20 >=20 >> e: michael@atastypixel.com >=20 >> skype/aim: mikerusselltyson >=20 >> twitter: MichaelTyson >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix --Apple-Mail-43--72408957 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Thanks!!

Half s= peed - at present, only available by manually adjusting the BPM, but dynamic= tempo scaling is there.

Reverse is coming shortly,= as well as a host of planned effects (which could include 1/2 speed quite e= asily)


-- 
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.c= om
A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac
=

Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that rein= vents the formula. Now available: loopyapp.com

Subscribe to o= ur newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter

s= kype/aim: mikerusselltyson
twitter: MichaelTyson
<= br>On 24 Jun 2011, at 18:20, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

=
Looks GREAT!!  Any 1/2 speed or reverse playback options?

CZ

Hi Looper's Delight members,


We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that combines power with simplicity.

The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for the iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons "Loopy is the only iPhone app I would use to show off with!"

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= --Apple-Mail-43--72408957-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 24 20:30:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3718D183475; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: "Ableton style" looper for the iPhone -- Fr ee Promotional Copies References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> From: Michael Tyson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-44--72253078 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> Message-Id: <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:30:22 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <2H1pED.A.iLC.wPPBOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:30:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-44--72253078 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cheers Phil! I'm not sure about EDP control/visualisation, but I can tell you I'm plannin= g on bringing the app to the iPad =3D) --=20 Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the formu= la. Now available: loopyapp.com Subscribe to our newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter e: michael@atastypixel.com skype/aim: mikerusselltyson twitter: MichaelTyson On 24 Jun 2011, at 21:00, Phil Clevenger wrote: > Yes, as a UI designer myself, I must applaud your lovely UI.=20 >=20 > Honestly, I'd love to have this on my iPad as a visualizer and controller f= or my EDP - ! >=20 > V2? >=20 > Best, >=20 > Phil :) >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >=20 >> Looks GREAT!! Any 1/2 speed or reverse playback options? >>=20 >> CZ >>=20 >>> Hi Looper's Delight members, >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that com= bines power with simplicity. >>>=20 >>> The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper f= or the iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons "Loopy i= s the only iPhone app I would use to show off with!" >>>=20 >>> We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good us= e, and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a few free promot= ional copies. >>>=20 >>> The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will receive a= free promotional copy of Loopy 2! =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks again and happy looping! >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com >>> A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac >>>=20 >>> Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without others! Now= available. >>>=20 >>> Subscribe to our newsletter >>>=20 >>> e: michael@atastypixel.com >>> skype/aim: mikerusselltyson >>> twitter: MichaelTyson >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >>=20 >> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >>=20 >> http://albumcredits.com/zmix >=20 --Apple-Mail-44--72253078 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Cheers Phil!

I= 'm not sure about EDP control/visualisation, but I can tell you I'm planning= on bringing the app to the iPad =3D)


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Hi Looper's Delight members,

We've recently launched&n= bsp;Loopy 2 -- a live looper for t= he iPhone that combines power with simplicity.

The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper f= or the iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons "Loopy is the only iPhone= app I would use to show off with!"

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The fi= rst 9 people to email us at <= /span>support@atastypixel.com<= /b> will receive a f= ree promotional copy of Loopy 2!  

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Thanks again and happy loop= ing!

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= --Apple-Mail-44--72253078-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 05:06:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 437A1183461; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/jRKvF4vt0XeLfNluw+k4F3O41FioBeUW1oL+tSLANs=; b=gWjSHGMcVSvu7p9Tn1oho4AmqspwE39ZL0XDQKdyu+OVf0L4dI5yMMQQ5reXoiyRCN 63yT1H2GmYeuUoZfLamUiFv5c4PWPFPBIh+yqx8Uf+E8lppRWsxfm0YbDhiIpaosRgUV SWX49o8681kec8Hlc+2Qzgh6Yb4wwDonuRO1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ayxcGLtu+axfo5TAjicoD6wIXsCxtXAvVk6QrC8iPwudQDm0/ZDM8gKKTSWIGcJAZa aNPeYFyF9NBlkvuRkqLD5f3ZYWbMvXreZ/PWirH+QlybzDOS4HocZSdQuWvLDWP4uYxR xf69AAdE63vrA0SnzlwmzsWuaztsVAnABTop8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:06:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Another song From: Jason Finnern To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6153888b9c2304a6824980 Resent-Message-ID: <3KX1UB.A.rnG.yzWBOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:06:58 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6153888b9c2304a6824980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is a song a friend I recorded awhile back....Thought it would be cool to upload a few of my old songs. Thanks, Jason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwI3Z7ZgQ2w --90e6ba6153888b9c2304a6824980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--90e6ba6153888b9c2304a6824980-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 08:29:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9DDF183464; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E059C74.8040906@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:29:40 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:29:44 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, June 25 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 11:04:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAEA0183475; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wmQaqggxlfO8LUq2fgGJMUN0D2Bff3WkvCLmVlPs2Dw=; b=wR/QhIkM1kh1sD7WlZHW5hrUig0ZDzkM518rovqrVbb0VrPsYsbzY6mtlutV0vRNy8 iXh3MjiubyzuFJVDE6NJWG/uMzWbFLcY1lLqcOwB98yHvHTrXv9vMMkY1FF7HxGbRbWq cjTeKTGIBeyTz39LvB4oRm5s/3JWcZ3/kOHHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KJ/SEYrVhAC7gDFjWrvGvKWZBnq4wF90oqbK2kR3F+NlcxA2nhx0f6sdsqP+irWzA/ m5KDMI95CWDku/kHh39IoDcyC9NFtbC06aKoBpkSEA43w7xpaKPtkwtgDB+Ucq+5V0rD 3DrrrTpyqM4/Gxwmh3UXvyaqstskjROdzipuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:04:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another song From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Not that it is very looping related, but I really like that one! I'm a big admirer of John Frusciante's solo work an you guys found a similar vibe on that song. If I had been with you when you recorded it I might have suggested cutting down the length a bit and maybe going a bit more adventurous with the break-down section, taking it down almost into silence before the slamming finale ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Jason Finnern wrote: > This is a song a friend I recorded awhile back....Thought it would be cool > to upload a few of my old songs. > > > Thanks, > > Jason > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwI3Z7ZgQ2w From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 14:41:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92077183486; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=NhVIUET0uuXaRwiPEyle08R09yW2QkNB+19v58bcF60=; b=uB1NZF/ZnoXYseVbnk4VoFyxMtbG1oAb9Ka4CEZICDQAWw3cBxXl0JoYpevad2eof4 zfcdb7jEfcn0BroeMtXbZlIroWGJ7dY4HOjaSCyubF4I/+fyCT73ug3OKClte0zHy2bi J6wZi6N6EF6yDNeajuTqC6qI0vmNf4Ep9T55E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=C40jOZOS/IMW1nYp8VwcKOW02zxsPswi3CLAGiZ3K3Xz4pGQq0WgTYPbda48O886o5 uR/E1uovHzcXbzF3E4woVCfjIXd7IXp8ImjWa8z9XFnzlbAmsf6183gVTfEoURLHSYyy MLzlBc8YEEjCFf1vXzw+5incmdC2o7TVDHLKE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Another song From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:41:33 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:41:38 +0000 (UTC) YES! Very nice. Thanks for sharing.=20 On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Not that it is very looping related, but I really like that one! I'm a > big admirer of John Frusciante's solo work an you guys found a similar > vibe on that song. If I had been with you when you recorded it I might > have suggested cutting down the length a bit and maybe going a bit > more adventurous with the break-down section, taking it down almost > into silence before the slamming finale ;-) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Jason Finnern = wrote: >> This is a song a friend I recorded awhile back....Thought it would be = cool >> to upload a few of my old songs. >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Jason >>=20 >>=20 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJwI3Z7ZgQ2w >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 15:18:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59A89183489; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=B71cu0ZaHb1y1G+BVRKMVapGrXASJzonRnnLD7gOkWc=; b=NpJp+3dUT2gi6byPfaHoCURO3u53KGmYPed1RL0XUwyNvDY9Hobk5s3T+LTsOxoJSS Ppoaq8dOamb7Ex3LV/nOz2SzX5+izfUINnDYB1Iqk9jICoZrNCNAIn91psm0bVj83ru6 3PJwXYhnblgx2HytNo8TgN607HzNxuefmEfu8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; b=ApJMZtCRLVRZoNbBzXZNpuOC8zSxY1Io8jvNw2pmB1VpZcuuXKWFSsD9YVEiB1j1HD HAld/XJWuYbhDgplkEy9VLuKqCkEBUDl8+uYRjy5zWm5yQEVdbC9U0BZgKnfxbnbEYdN h9TijwbDSf8g9Ig9DZWP7q8vW5oU1L7R1ip2c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:18:13 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3jwuIAaBDP89B8S0gx-YulYuZbQ Message-ID: Subject: Loopy 2 critical feedback To: Michael Tyson Cc: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8cd4d3e0ca04a68ad4ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8cd4d3e0ca04a68ad4ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Micheal! Great work on Loopy2... I concur with the others on design, looks very nice, as does your site.. for my day-job, my interface design is somewhat simerlar to yours... So to comments.. I realise its early days and you have improvements planned of the reverse/half speed etc type- I have some other suggestions and comments on current version. Please bare in mind that these comments are all.. me being VERY picky... basically I think its lovely! Recording first loop is great no problems... now for me, hitting with 2 fingers for overdub was a bit tricky, as I hav big fat fingers, and sometimes it registered as a one finger, and muted. I suggest keeping the circular radar indicator, useful and cool, but increasing the hit area to a boxed area around each circle. you have at lease 5 mm either side and thats a huge increase of space in which to hit. I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 fingered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as the default and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying overdub. (maybe you thought that was dangerous?) I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an indicator that the track was muted... go for red overlay on the whole radar circle... then I have an overview of whats I have to unmute with one glance. Now being able to multiply is one thing, but inserting and deleting and replacing are the next step here... Personally I would skip insert, but you need to be able to delete and replace. (UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? Not shaking please... what if its mounted on somthing, or if you shake accidentaly.. remember were musicians... moving mi ass!) Both of these functions should be available in unquantised and quantised versions. now really to delete or replace (just to clarify, a replace is a kind of delete where you are recording new material while deleting the original) one needs very accurate control over WHEN you do this, because you often want to take out a tiny click or fart sound that ies somehwere in your loop, and to do that a quick touch on and release off would be best however that gesture you already use for record and mute (ok not exactly). maybe you can ARM delete/replace with a button to change your gesture from mute to delete. the quantise/unquantise feature is important. As finger technique on the iphone is iffy, its unlikely that you can be beat acurate with your clicking... but by forcing your deletes or replaces to divisions of the beat (8ths 16th) you open up for some cool in synch glitchy rhythm stuff... This feature I have yet to see on any iphone looper app yet... so how would this work? OK the unquantised replace works, as just said, by you touching and the recording starts and when you release it ends. The quantised version works by choosing the quantise division (or lack of ) NONE, 3, 4, 5, 8 and16 should be MORE than enough, then as you finger hits the recording waits til the next division of the beat, as you release, it again waits til it reaches the next division of the beat. so a quick hit, would add one segment. For now that ends my report, but you should also take some inspiration from (if you havent already, which I think you have matey) from Proloop from Autodesk. The feature of being able to use one loop to modify another via ring modulation is awesome... As it stands, tis a great tool, but probaly most of use to the vocal looper... the 2 fingers thing is the biggest drawback because it immediately makes it a TWO HANDED looper, and if you are playing an instrument, (one handed instrument).. but with it mounted on something, it becomes more possible. By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it has been closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app (long press, click the red dot) for it to work properly... Mark On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: > Hey Mark, > > As a matter of fact, no, you're not too late! > Do let me know what you think! > > Cheers =) > Michael > > -- > Michael Tyson | > atastypixel.com > A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8cd4d3e0ca04a68ad4ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Micheal!

Great work on Loopy2... I concur with the others on desi= gn, looks very nice, as does your site.. for my day-job, my interface desig= n is somewhat simerlar to yours...

So to comments.. I realise its ea= rly days and you have improvements planned of the reverse/half speed etc ty= pe- I have some other suggestions and comments on current version.

Please bare in mind that these comments are all.. me being VERY picky..= . basically I think its lovely!

Recording first loop is great no pro= blems... now for me, hitting with 2 fingers for overdub was a bit tricky, a= s I hav big fat fingers, and sometimes it registered as a one finger, and m= uted. I suggest keeping the circular radar indicator, useful and cool, but = increasing the hit area to a boxed area around each circle. you have at lea= se 5 mm either side and thats a huge increase of space in which to hit. I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 finge= red hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as the defau= lt and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying overdub. (ma= ybe you thought that was dangerous?)
I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an indicator tha= t the track was muted... go for red overlay on the whole radar circle... th= en I have an overview of whats I have to unmute with one glance.

Now being able to multiply is one thing, but inserting and deleting and rep= lacing are the next step here...
Personally I would skip insert, but yo= u need to be able to delete and replace.

(UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? Not= shaking please... what if its mounted on somthing, or if you shake acciden= taly.. remember were musicians... moving mi ass!)

Both of these functions should be available in unquantised and quantise= d versions. now really to delete or replace (just to clarify, a replace is = a kind of delete where you are recording new material while deleting the or= iginal) one needs very accurate control over WHEN you do this, because you = often want to take out a tiny click or fart sound that ies somehwere in you= r loop, and to do that a quick touch on and release off would be best howev= er that gesture you already use for record and mute (ok not exactly). maybe= you can ARM delete/replace with a button to change your gesture from mute = to delete.

the quantise/unquantise feature is important. As finger technique on th= e iphone is iffy, its unlikely that you can be beat acurate with your click= ing... but by forcing your deletes or replaces to divisions of the beat (8t= hs 16th) you open up for some cool in synch glitchy rhythm stuff... This fe= ature I have yet to see on any iphone looper app yet... so how would this w= ork?

OK the unquantised replace works, as just said, by you touching and the= recording starts and when you release it ends.
The quantised version wo= rks by choosing the quantise division (or lack of )=A0 NONE, 3, 4, 5, 8 and= 16 should be MORE than enough, then as you finger hits the recording waits = til the next division of the beat, as you release, it again waits til it re= aches the next division of the beat. so a quick hit, would add one segment.=

For now that ends my report, but you should also take some inspiration = from (if you havent already, which I think you have matey) from Proloop fro= m Autodesk. The feature of being able to use one loop to modify another via= ring modulation is awesome...

As it stands, tis a great tool, but probaly most of use to the vocal lo= oper... the 2 fingers thing is the biggest drawback because it immediately = makes it a TWO HANDED looper, and if you are playing an instrument, (one ha= nded instrument).. but with it mounted on something, it becomes more possib= le.

By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it ha= s been closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app (long = press, click the red dot) for it to work properly...

Mark


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Michael Tys= on <michael= @atastypixel.com> wrote:
Hey Mark,

As a = matter of fact, no, you're not too late!
Do let me know what you think!

Cheers =3D)
Michael

--=A0
Mic= hael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac

=


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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8cd4d3e0ca04a68ad4ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 15:43:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05D33183489; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=9w/tB5oNUpwoy7l+WGNd9sexPaWOkHpVqh8yvY2mqSs=; b=m7T7Cy30ODeF994bYmgnxavHfwQ8OuCoUOiPkQDbZ16W3xRpITcys5GbNVjxD399si /1m3RAHnzQyn68vKy/Am7S8plOlZojVHIXwSqjxUmT6A1uT+c0ZD++yrSAKlkAqUS4Wm 71Z5rslcX7QRns+JhghaAA4kjkWt1+6MC3Ew4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=MR57l1BzmUZxix4L4rV533+emm8zzhGJDG1oAeVshVnt/p9xtWC/9IYs5O4uvaI/Dt pOd/GXEKmnx8LkugbGvcN4FxsZU4MTiPGNds0icPUBFvLeI4EPhQqgKZIMgBEWzdO123 9dxtIFhVvTuFkJmSZ3o/O5VMm8k0q0kKoh3f0= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--3101730 Subject: Re: Loopy 2 critical feedback Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:42:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <7BC096E9-8A78-4E24-8381-19C33997BA84@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <9iPlDB.A.L_E.JIgBOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:43:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--3101730 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > hitting with 2 fingers for overdub was a bit tricky... and sometimes = it registered as a one finger Agreed, hand his proposed solution sounds good to me. Also, there's no = real reason all six cycles need to be the same size, at least at first. = I tend to be focused on my last, present, and next loop with any = previous loops mainly of interest for triggering/switching back to, so = perhaps the interface could take advantage of this by giving more = real-estate to the last, present, and next loop. > I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 = fingered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as = the default and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying = overdub. I agree and add to this that I would like a visual indicator of what = mode would hit at the end of the cycle. Without that, I'm distracted, = wondering if I hit it right. > I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an = indicator that the track was muted...=20 I only was able to spare 5 minutes to play with it so far but I can tell = you I did mute a track and did not notice this visual representation of = muting so I agree. Dim blue or grey maybe? > Now being able to multiply is one thing,=20 I couldn't figure out how to multiply. Again, 5 minutes, only checked = out the 1st few pages of the tutorial, but that's so basic that it = should be something instinctual. I noticed pressing and holding didn't = seem to do anything, so perhaps a single press and hold (number of = multiple shows) then release on desired multiple? >=20 > (UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? Not shaking please... Also agree.=20 > By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it = has been closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app = (long press, click the red dot) for it to work properly... I'll check for this next time I play with it.=20 The biggest problem I had was not hearing the beat or previous material = while overdubbing. Now, I understand why this is, of course, as I was = not using headphones so maybe it does play the content of the loop when = headphones are inserted, I don't yet know, but without it would be very = helpful to have visual indicator of the beat. Thinking about it now, = perhaps there was one in the lower left, a little circle that flashed, = but whatever it was it wasn't enough. So if you, for instance, start an = empty loop intending just to have the beat, it's real hard to know what = you're doing. Or over-dubbing, the audio content in the circle, again, = doesn't show the beat as precisely as needed to keep track of it in your = mind. Clear loop start (and even = loop-aproaching-start-at-some-sensible-interval indicators would be = dandy. Forgive me if I missed existing signals, again, 5 minutes. ----Christopher On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:18 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Hi Micheal! >=20 > Great work on Loopy2... I concur with the others on design, looks very = nice, as does your site.. for my day-job, my interface design is = somewhat simerlar to yours... >=20 > So to comments.. I realise its early days and you have improvements = planned of the reverse/half speed etc type- I have some other = suggestions and comments on current version. >=20 > Please bare in mind that these comments are all.. me being VERY = picky... basically I think its lovely! >=20 > Recording first loop is great no problems... now for me, hitting with = 2 fingers for overdub was a bit tricky, as I hav big fat fingers, and = sometimes it registered as a one finger, and muted. I suggest keeping = the circular radar indicator, useful and cool, but increasing the hit = area to a boxed area around each circle. you have at lease 5 mm either = side and thats a huge increase of space in which to hit.=20 > I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 = fingered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as = the default and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying = overdub. (maybe you thought that was dangerous?) > I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an = indicator that the track was muted... go for red overlay on the whole = radar circle... then I have an overview of whats I have to unmute with = one glance. >=20 > Now being able to multiply is one thing, but inserting and deleting = and replacing are the next step here...=20 > Personally I would skip insert, but you need to be able to delete and = replace.=20 >=20 > (UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? Not shaking please... what if its mounted on = somthing, or if you shake accidentaly.. remember were musicians... = moving mi ass!) >=20 > Both of these functions should be available in unquantised and = quantised versions. now really to delete or replace (just to clarify, a = replace is a kind of delete where you are recording new material while = deleting the original) one needs very accurate control over WHEN you do = this, because you often want to take out a tiny click or fart sound that = ies somehwere in your loop, and to do that a quick touch on and release = off would be best however that gesture you already use for record and = mute (ok not exactly). maybe you can ARM delete/replace with a button to = change your gesture from mute to delete. >=20 > the quantise/unquantise feature is important. As finger technique on = the iphone is iffy, its unlikely that you can be beat acurate with your = clicking... but by forcing your deletes or replaces to divisions of the = beat (8ths 16th) you open up for some cool in synch glitchy rhythm = stuff... This feature I have yet to see on any iphone looper app yet... = so how would this work? >=20 > OK the unquantised replace works, as just said, by you touching and = the recording starts and when you release it ends. > The quantised version works by choosing the quantise division (or lack = of ) NONE, 3, 4, 5, 8 and16 should be MORE than enough, then as you = finger hits the recording waits til the next division of the beat, as = you release, it again waits til it reaches the next division of the = beat. so a quick hit, would add one segment. >=20 > For now that ends my report, but you should also take some inspiration = from (if you havent already, which I think you have matey) from Proloop = from Autodesk. The feature of being able to use one loop to modify = another via ring modulation is awesome...=20 >=20 > As it stands, tis a great tool, but probaly most of use to the vocal = looper... the 2 fingers thing is the biggest drawback because it = immediately makes it a TWO HANDED looper, and if you are playing an = instrument, (one handed instrument).. but with it mounted on something, = it becomes more possible. >=20 > By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it = has been closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app = (long press, click the red dot) for it to work properly... >=20 > Mark >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Michael Tyson = wrote: > Hey Mark, >=20 > As a matter of fact, no, you're not too late! > Do let me know what you think! >=20 > Cheers =3D) > Michael >=20 > --=20 > Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com > A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Apple-Mail-2--3101730 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii hitting = with 2 fingers for overdub was a bit tricky... and sometimes it = registered as a one finger

Agreed, = hand his proposed solution sounds good to me. Also, there's no real = reason all six cycles need to be the same size, at least at first. I = tend to be focused on my last, present, and next loop with any previous = loops mainly of interest for triggering/switching back to, so perhaps = the interface could take advantage of this by giving more real-estate to = the last, present, and next loop.

I = didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 = fingered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as = the default and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying = overdub.

I agree and add to this that I = would like a visual indicator of what mode would hit at the end of the = cycle. Without that, I'm distracted, wondering if I hit it = right.

I thought that the slightly = dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an indicator that the track was = muted... 

I only was able to = spare 5 minutes to play with it so far but I can tell you I did mute a = track and did not notice this visual representation of muting so I = agree. Dim blue or grey maybe?

Now = being able to multiply is one = thing, 

I couldn't figure out = how to multiply. Again, 5 minutes, only checked out the 1st few pages of = the tutorial, but that's so basic that it should be something = instinctual. I noticed pressing and holding didn't seem to do anything, = so perhaps a single press and hold (number of multiple shows) then = release on desired multiple?


(UNDO = IS COMING RIGHT? Not shaking please... =

Also = agree. 

By the = way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it has been = closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app (long = press, click the red dot) for it to work = properly...

I'll check for this = next time I play with = it. 


The biggest problem I = had was not hearing the beat or previous material while overdubbing. = Now, I understand why this is, of course, as I was not using headphones = so maybe it does play the content of the loop when headphones are = inserted, I don't yet know, but without it would be very helpful to have = visual indicator of the beat. Thinking about it now, perhaps there was = one in the lower left, a little circle that flashed, but whatever it was = it wasn't enough. So if you, for instance, start an empty loop intending = just to have the beat, it's real hard to know what you're doing. Or = over-dubbing, the audio content in the circle, again, doesn't show the = beat as precisely as needed to keep track of it in your mind. Clear loop = start  (and even loop-aproaching-start-at-some-sensible-interval = indicators would be dandy. Forgive me if I missed existing signals, = again, 5 = minutes.


----Christopher

=

On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:18 AM, mark francombe = wrote:

Hi Micheal!

Great work on Loopy2... I concur with = the others on design, looks very nice, as does your site.. for my = day-job, my interface design is somewhat simerlar to yours...

So = to comments.. I realise its early days and you have improvements planned = of the reverse/half speed etc type- I have some other suggestions and = comments on current version.

Please bare in mind that these comments are all.. me being VERY = picky... basically I think its lovely!

Recording first loop is = great no problems... now for me, hitting with 2 fingers for overdub was = a bit tricky, as I hav big fat fingers, and sometimes it registered as a = one finger, and muted. I suggest keeping the circular radar indicator, = useful and cool, but increasing the hit area to a boxed area around each = circle. you have at lease 5 mm either side and thats a huge increase of = space in which to hit.
I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 = fingered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as = the default and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying = overdub. (maybe you thought that was dangerous?)
I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an indicator = that the track was muted... go for red overlay on the whole radar = circle... then I have an overview of whats I have to unmute with one = glance.

Now being able to multiply is one thing, but inserting and deleting and = replacing are the next step here...
Personally I would skip insert, = but you need to be able to delete and replace.

(UNDO IS COMING = RIGHT? Not shaking please... what if its mounted on somthing, or if you = shake accidentaly.. remember were musicians... moving mi ass!)

Both of these functions should be available in unquantised and = quantised versions. now really to delete or replace (just to clarify, a = replace is a kind of delete where you are recording new material while = deleting the original) one needs very accurate control over WHEN you do = this, because you often want to take out a tiny click or fart sound that = ies somehwere in your loop, and to do that a quick touch on and release = off would be best however that gesture you already use for record and = mute (ok not exactly). maybe you can ARM delete/replace with a button to = change your gesture from mute to delete.

the quantise/unquantise feature is important. As finger technique on = the iphone is iffy, its unlikely that you can be beat acurate with your = clicking... but by forcing your deletes or replaces to divisions of the = beat (8ths 16th) you open up for some cool in synch glitchy rhythm = stuff... This feature I have yet to see on any iphone looper app yet... = so how would this work?

OK the unquantised replace works, as just said, by you touching and = the recording starts and when you release it ends.
The quantised = version works by choosing the quantise division (or lack of )  = NONE, 3, 4, 5, 8 and16 should be MORE than enough, then as you finger = hits the recording waits til the next division of the beat, as you = release, it again waits til it reaches the next division of the beat. so = a quick hit, would add one segment.

For now that ends my report, but you should also take some = inspiration from (if you havent already, which I think you have matey) = from Proloop from Autodesk. The feature of being able to use one loop to = modify another via ring modulation is awesome...

As it stands, tis a great tool, but probaly most of use to the vocal = looper... the 2 fingers thing is the biggest drawback because it = immediately makes it a TWO HANDED looper, and if you are playing an = instrument, (one handed instrument).. but with it mounted on something, = it becomes more possible.

By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it = has been closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app = (long press, click the red dot) for it to work = properly...

Mark


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Michael = Tyson <michael@atastypixel.com> wrote:
Hey Mark,

As = a matter of fact, no, you're not too late!
Do let me = know what you think!

Cheers =3D)
Michael

-- = ;
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and = Mac




--
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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

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--bcaec51d25f02df40e04a68b9fdd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 16:50:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3923183489; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UqRVRr7+CuwaHL6sHXvtDDZBED0YywlXlIbCeO3MZ4U=; b=xN9XVdZYema9WvT0mPdgxLSdutpAPNBwPJGxwCpAjGKRhKcuAhn88OV+cnjDmYdFJH RNUWwdnxDMxK5Dy+/wJ5HswxOgp7cUaGO0j7FNSmKOK5KAroa4pwKSWMHW2PbavXbeTr PIcdKtdl7ztsmrVuuWIKJ5KzGJDGH0YGKEvEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=oYvVCLCgDURi4iD++85PMyVLQm6NElU2iPyXp6AKpFMWPznxmozuY2IQ1po6we6ANF +Q76adyHanpUf8BWNuDnLfXMQPc+tA+iWt37KY3IsFDVdOAxfho2WWW8tcmoLiovATJ9 8+Pd0vzGJLOZh2StmkX7u2e+Ilxflzp7Xalr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7BC096E9-8A78-4E24-8381-19C33997BA84@gmail.com> References: <7BC096E9-8A78-4E24-8381-19C33997BA84@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:50:07 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: p1z9FGUaDoXGbmxZFK2RewvIKwE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopy 2 critical feedback To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3040ee547c3a1c04a68c1d49 Resent-Message-ID: <4lPFR.A.nBG.UHhBOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:50:28 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3040ee547c3a1c04a68c1d49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ahh I should mention that, in true live looper stylee, I did NOT listen at all to the beat/metronome... and made my loop length by making my first loop.. m On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > > hitting with 2 fingers for overdub was a bit tricky... and sometimes it > registered as a one finger > > > Agreed, hand his proposed solution sounds good to me. Also, there's no real > reason all six cycles need to be the same size, at least at first. I tend to > be focused on my last, present, and next loop with any previous loops mainly > of interest for triggering/switching back to, so perhaps the interface could > take advantage of this by giving more real-estate to the last, present, and > next loop. > > I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 > fingered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as the > default and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying overdub. > > > > I agree and add to this that I would like a visual indicator of what mode > would hit at the end of the cycle. Without that, I'm distracted, wondering > if I hit it right. > > I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an indicator > that the track was muted... > > > I only was able to spare 5 minutes to play with it so far but I can tell > you I did mute a track and did not notice this visual representation of > muting so I agree. Dim blue or grey maybe? > > Now being able to multiply is one thing, > > > I couldn't figure out how to multiply. Again, 5 minutes, only checked out > the 1st few pages of the tutorial, but that's so basic that it should be > something instinctual. I noticed pressing and holding didn't seem to do > anything, so perhaps a single press and hold (number of multiple shows) then > release on desired multiple? > > > (UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? Not shaking please... > > > Also agree. > > By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it has > been closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app (long > press, click the red dot) for it to work properly... > > > I'll check for this next time I play with it. > > > The biggest problem I had was not hearing the beat or previous material > while overdubbing. Now, I understand why this is, of course, as I was not > using headphones so maybe it does play the content of the loop when > headphones are inserted, I don't yet know, but without it would be very > helpful to have visual indicator of the beat. Thinking about it now, perhaps > there was one in the lower left, a little circle that flashed, but whatever > it was it wasn't enough. So if you, for instance, start an empty loop > intending just to have the beat, it's real hard to know what you're doing. > Or over-dubbing, the audio content in the circle, again, doesn't show the > beat as precisely as needed to keep track of it in your mind. Clear loop > start (and even loop-aproaching-start-at-some-sensible-interval indicators > would be dandy. Forgive me if I missed existing signals, again, 5 minutes. > > > ----Christopher > > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:18 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > Hi Micheal! > > Great work on Loopy2... I concur with the others on design, looks very > nice, as does your site.. for my day-job, my interface design is somewhat > simerlar to yours... > > So to comments.. I realise its early days and you have improvements planned > of the reverse/half speed etc type- I have some other suggestions and > comments on current version. > > Please bare in mind that these comments are all.. me being VERY picky... > basically I think its lovely! > > Recording first loop is great no problems... now for me, hitting with 2 > fingers for overdub was a bit tricky, as I hav big fat fingers, and > sometimes it registered as a one finger, and muted. I suggest keeping the > circular radar indicator, useful and cool, but increasing the hit area to a > boxed area around each circle. you have at lease 5 mm either side and thats > a huge increase of space in which to hit. > I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 > fingered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as the > default and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying overdub. > (maybe you thought that was dangerous?) > I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an indicator > that the track was muted... go for red overlay on the whole radar circle... > then I have an overview of whats I have to unmute with one glance. > > Now being able to multiply is one thing, but inserting and deleting and > replacing are the next step here... > Personally I would skip insert, but you need to be able to delete and > replace. > > (UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? Not shaking please... what if its mounted on > somthing, or if you shake accidentaly.. remember were musicians... moving mi > ass!) > > Both of these functions should be available in unquantised and quantised > versions. now really to delete or replace (just to clarify, a replace is a > kind of delete where you are recording new material while deleting the > original) one needs very accurate control over WHEN you do this, because you > often want to take out a tiny click or fart sound that ies somehwere in your > loop, and to do that a quick touch on and release off would be best however > that gesture you already use for record and mute (ok not exactly). maybe you > can ARM delete/replace with a button to change your gesture from mute to > delete. > > the quantise/unquantise feature is important. As finger technique on the > iphone is iffy, its unlikely that you can be beat acurate with your > clicking... but by forcing your deletes or replaces to divisions of the beat > (8ths 16th) you open up for some cool in synch glitchy rhythm stuff... This > feature I have yet to see on any iphone looper app yet... so how would this > work? > > OK the unquantised replace works, as just said, by you touching and the > recording starts and when you release it ends. > The quantised version works by choosing the quantise division (or lack of > ) NONE, 3, 4, 5, 8 and16 should be MORE than enough, then as you finger > hits the recording waits til the next division of the beat, as you release, > it again waits til it reaches the next division of the beat. so a quick hit, > would add one segment. > > For now that ends my report, but you should also take some inspiration from > (if you havent already, which I think you have matey) from Proloop from > Autodesk. The feature of being able to use one loop to modify another via > ring modulation is awesome... > > As it stands, tis a great tool, but probaly most of use to the vocal > looper... the 2 fingers thing is the biggest drawback because it immediately > makes it a TWO HANDED looper, and if you are playing an instrument, (one > handed instrument).. but with it mounted on something, it becomes more > possible. > > By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it has > been closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app (long > press, click the red dot) for it to work properly... > > Mark > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: > >> Hey Mark, >> >> As a matter of fact, no, you're not too late! >> Do let me know what you think! >> >> Cheers =) >> Michael >> >> -- >> Michael Tyson | >> atastypixel.com >> A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac >> >> >> > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf3040ee547c3a1c04a68c1d49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahh I should mention that, in true live looper stylee, I did NOT listen at = all to the beat/metronome... and made my loop length by making my first loo= p..

m

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:42= PM, Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com> wrote:

hitting with 2 finger= s for overdub was a bit tricky... and sometimes it registered as a one fing= er

Agreed, hand his proposed solution sounds = good to me. Also, there's no real reason all six cycles need to be the = same size, at least at first. I tend to be focused on my last, present, and= next loop with any previous loops mainly of interest for triggering/switch= ing back to, so perhaps the interface could take advantage of this by givin= g more real-estate to the last, present, and next loop.

I didnt like that to multip= ly I had to hit a second time before the 2 fingered hit for overdub. I woul= d rather have multiple loop overdub as the default and have a one or two fi= ngered hit to close the multiplying overdub.

I agree and add to this that I would like a visua= l indicator of what mode would hit at the end of the cycle. Without that, I= 'm distracted, wondering if I hit it right.

I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was t= oo subtle an indicator that the track was muted...=A0
=
I only was able to spare 5 minutes to play with it so = far but I can tell you I did mute a track and did not notice this visual re= presentation of muting so I agree. Dim blue or grey maybe?

Now being able to multiply = is one thing,=A0

I couldn't f= igure out how to multiply. Again, 5 minutes, only checked out the 1st few p= ages of the tutorial, but that's so basic that it should be something i= nstinctual. I noticed pressing and holding didn't seem to do anything, = so perhaps a single press and hold (number of multiple shows) then release = on desired multiple?


(UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? = Not shaking please...

Also agree.=A0=

By th= e way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it has been cl= osed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app (long press, cl= ick the red dot) for it to work properly...

I'll check for this next time I play wi= th it.=A0


The biggest problem I had= was not hearing the beat or previous material while overdubbing. Now, I un= derstand why this is, of course, as I was not using headphones so maybe it = does play the content of the loop when headphones are inserted, I don't= yet know, but without it would be very helpful to have visual indicator of= the beat. Thinking about it now, perhaps there was one in the lower left, = a little circle that flashed, but whatever it was it wasn't enough. So = if you, for instance, start an empty loop intending just to have the beat, = it's real hard to know what you're doing. Or over-dubbing, the audi= o content in the circle, again, doesn't show the beat as precisely as n= eeded to keep track of it in your mind. Clear loop start =A0(and even loop-= aproaching-start-at-some-sensible-interval indicators would be dandy. Forgi= ve me if I missed existing signals, again, 5 minutes.


----Christopher
=


On Ju= n 25, 2011, at 8:18 AM, mark francombe wrote:

Hi Micheal!

Great work on Loopy2... I concur with the others on desi= gn, looks very nice, as does your site.. for my day-job, my interface desig= n is somewhat simerlar to yours...

So to comments.. I realise its ea= rly days and you have improvements planned of the reverse/half speed etc ty= pe- I have some other suggestions and comments on current version.

Please bare in mind that these comments are all.. me being VERY picky..= . basically I think its lovely!

Recording first loop is great no pro= blems... now for me, hitting with 2 fingers for overdub was a bit tricky, a= s I hav big fat fingers, and sometimes it registered as a one finger, and m= uted. I suggest keeping the circular radar indicator, useful and cool, but = increasing the hit area to a boxed area around each circle. you have at lea= se 5 mm either side and thats a huge increase of space in which to hit. I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 finge= red hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as the defau= lt and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying overdub. (ma= ybe you thought that was dangerous?)
I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an indicator tha= t the track was muted... go for red overlay on the whole radar circle... th= en I have an overview of whats I have to unmute with one glance.

Now being able to multiply is one thing, but inserting and deleting and rep= lacing are the next step here...
Personally I would skip insert, but yo= u need to be able to delete and replace.

(UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? Not= shaking please... what if its mounted on somthing, or if you shake acciden= taly.. remember were musicians... moving mi ass!)

Both of these functions should be available in unquantised and quantise= d versions. now really to delete or replace (just to clarify, a replace is = a kind of delete where you are recording new material while deleting the or= iginal) one needs very accurate control over WHEN you do this, because you = often want to take out a tiny click or fart sound that ies somehwere in you= r loop, and to do that a quick touch on and release off would be best howev= er that gesture you already use for record and mute (ok not exactly). maybe= you can ARM delete/replace with a button to change your gesture from mute = to delete.

the quantise/unquantise feature is important. As finger technique on th= e iphone is iffy, its unlikely that you can be beat acurate with your click= ing... but by forcing your deletes or replaces to divisions of the beat (8t= hs 16th) you open up for some cool in synch glitchy rhythm stuff... This fe= ature I have yet to see on any iphone looper app yet... so how would this w= ork?

OK the unquantised replace works, as just said, by you touching and the= recording starts and when you release it ends.
The quantised version wo= rks by choosing the quantise division (or lack of )=A0 NONE, 3, 4, 5, 8 and= 16 should be MORE than enough, then as you finger hits the recording waits = til the next division of the beat, as you release, it again waits til it re= aches the next division of the beat. so a quick hit, would add one segment.=

For now that ends my report, but you should also take some inspiration = from (if you havent already, which I think you have matey) from Proloop fro= m Autodesk. The feature of being able to use one loop to modify another via= ring modulation is awesome...

As it stands, tis a great tool, but probaly most of use to the vocal lo= oper... the 2 fingers thing is the biggest drawback because it immediately = makes it a TWO HANDED looper, and if you are playing an instrument, (one ha= nded instrument).. but with it mounted on something, it becomes more possib= le.

By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it ha= s been closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app (long = press, click the red dot) for it to work properly...

Mark


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Michael Tys= on <michael@atastypixel.com> wrote:
Hey Mark,

As a = matter of fact, no, you're not too late!
Do let me know what you think!

Cheers =3D)
Michael

--=A0
Mic= hael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac

=


--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--20cf3040ee547c3a1c04a68c1d49-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 23:24:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A884D183460; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Ambience and the M13 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:24:06 -0700 Message-Id: To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:24:11 +0000 (UTC) As in ambience behind the main signal. I continue to love my Korg AM8000R, but it's a rack unit and that makes = things less mobile, so today I decided to try to push my Line6 M13 = harder. The verdict is that I miss some things from the Korg -- pitch = shifting delays with feedback especially, stepped phasers to a lesser = extent -- but chain together 3 or 4 careful chosen effects all set to = 100% wet and one can get a fairly nice ambient vibe going. The Obi Wah = is a good substitute for the stepped phasers, for example. This is an area where the M13 seems to win over the M9: One more effect = and you can see all of the live effects at once for tweakage. The downside, of course, is size. And then there's the matter of really needing to run this sort of chain = 100% wet which means that there are routing issues to deal with. Still, I am starting to see how it could be very appealing to use the = M13 as an ambient looper either on the floor or raised up onto a stand = for easier tweakage. Mark P.S. Something I haven't tried yet, but it occurs to me: You can put the = looper anywhere you want in the signal chain if you use the effects = loop. You put your pre-loop effects in the later slots, put your input = into the FX send before these effects, then feed your output to the = input, run the looper pre-FX, and use the effects send as the output. Instrument -> FX Return -> Pre-loop FX -> Output -> Input -> Looper -> = Post-loop FX -> FX Send -> Amplifier/Mixer/... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 23:25:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E879118345E; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:24:58 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <14299816-E0DE-45CF-BFE4-89D3214333C5@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <730doB.A.hMC.L5mBOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:24:59 +0000 (UTC) I do, however, seem to find it a bit too easy to overload something = somewhere in the chain. Mark On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > As in ambience behind the main signal. >=20 > I continue to love my Korg AM8000R, but it's a rack unit and that = makes things less mobile, so today I decided to try to push my Line6 M13 = harder. The verdict is that I miss some things from the Korg -- pitch = shifting delays with feedback especially, stepped phasers to a lesser = extent -- but chain together 3 or 4 careful chosen effects all set to = 100% wet and one can get a fairly nice ambient vibe going. The Obi Wah = is a good substitute for the stepped phasers, for example. >=20 > This is an area where the M13 seems to win over the M9: One more = effect and you can see all of the live effects at once for tweakage. >=20 > The downside, of course, is size. >=20 > And then there's the matter of really needing to run this sort of = chain 100% wet which means that there are routing issues to deal with. >=20 > Still, I am starting to see how it could be very appealing to use the = M13 as an ambient looper either on the floor or raised up onto a stand = for easier tweakage. >=20 > Mark >=20 > P.S. Something I haven't tried yet, but it occurs to me: You can put = the looper anywhere you want in the signal chain if you use the effects = loop. You put your pre-loop effects in the later slots, put your input = into the FX send before these effects, then feed your output to the = input, run the looper pre-FX, and use the effects send as the output. >=20 > Instrument -> FX Return -> Pre-loop FX -> Output -> Input -> Looper -> = Post-loop FX -> FX Send -> Amplifier/Mixer/... >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 25 23:25:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67B93183460; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvUHADptBk4yaEvb/2dsb2JhbABSmF+Oa4lrwVOGMASHLI9Fi0s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,426,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="115430313" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.75.219 Message-Id: <053EC5FC-ACAF-4BDB-A5B6-990D04859928@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <14299816-E0DE-45CF-BFE4-89D3214333C5@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:30:23 -0500 References: <14299816-E0DE-45CF-BFE4-89D3214333C5@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 25, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I do, however, seem to find it a bit too easy to overload something > somewhere in the chain. One thing that bugs me about the M9/13 is the lack of ability to set fx output levels on fx other than drives (and maybe comps too? I forget) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 01:17:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5B03183473; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9QkDrLJh3Ylk4BCuKFGPEav2LsIL7A0zSiFQmQfDyN8=; b=GhDFJKAacPTu8K5nfAXRNKWYqr+8yRsF1yX1w+xW07l3dawpSZRtc47EK173zfY4L1 LDP0d5pCRIyvE4ZNY07anXqLigTc14mtpSwO497Igz0938m9bJDB4J5F3omHjtjvN2ug CkXG2bQV7ovYDdXis1Xf7mz7w1vVEELMfUVro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=af7IfJr8Zjc3lMquEHYCkhOKK+zZMfWKEKiZHkwMz6F8P8NZoZ/1mrq4lRLFzacjD4 lZJdW6aCNqM2EtWgNnEF7xlgpLaZBOQ1APKTq+MlGTrtVGMIMI9t8xtUh9zz23y/8H78 u/RIOUhJmytkgsAkq33Rgz6+htJUamzw/UFSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14299816-E0DE-45CF-BFE4-89D3214333C5@grubmah.com> References: <14299816-E0DE-45CF-BFE4-89D3214333C5@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:17:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f38e4af787604a69331e4 Resent-Message-ID: <0iwReB.A.MND.XioBOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:17:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f38e4af787604a69331e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 with the m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx patches. Some like filters can be too loud and cause clipping farther on in the chain. Some seem too soft depending on where you place them. Maybe just me.. Jeff On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I do, however, seem to find it a bit too easy to overload something > somewhere in the chain. > > Mark > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > > > As in ambience behind the main signal. > > > > I continue to love my Korg AM8000R, but it's a rack unit and that makes > things less mobile, so today I decided to try to push my Line6 M13 harder. > The verdict is that I miss some things from the Korg -- pitch shifting > delays with feedback especially, stepped phasers to a lesser extent -- but > chain together 3 or 4 careful chosen effects all set to 100% wet and one can > get a fairly nice ambient vibe going. The Obi Wah is a good substitute for > the stepped phasers, for example. > > > > This is an area where the M13 seems to win over the M9: One more effect > and you can see all of the live effects at once for tweakage. > > > > The downside, of course, is size. > > > > And then there's the matter of really needing to run this sort of chain > 100% wet which means that there are routing issues to deal with. > > > > Still, I am starting to see how it could be very appealing to use the M13 > as an ambient looper either on the floor or raised up onto a stand for > easier tweakage. > > > > Mark > > > > P.S. Something I haven't tried yet, but it occurs to me: You can put the > looper anywhere you want in the signal chain if you use the effects loop. > You put your pre-loop effects in the later slots, put your input into the FX > send before these effects, then feed your output to the input, run the > looper pre-FX, and use the effects send as the output. > > > > Instrument -> FX Return -> Pre-loop FX -> Output -> Input -> Looper -> > Post-loop FX -> FX Send -> Amplifier/Mixer/... > > > > > > --20cf307f38e4af787604a69331e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable with the m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx patches. So= me like filters can be too loud and cause clipping farther on in the chain.= Some seem too soft depending on where you place them. Maybe just me..

Jeff

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM,= Mark Hamburg <mar= k@grubmah.com> wrote:
I do, however, seem to find it a bit too easy to overload something somewhe= re in the chain.

Mark

On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

> As in ambience behind the main signal.
>
> I continue to love my Korg AM8000R, but it's a rack unit and that = makes things less mobile, so today I decided to try to push my Line6 M13 ha= rder. The verdict is that I miss some things from the Korg -- pitch shiftin= g delays with feedback especially, stepped phasers to a lesser extent -- bu= t chain together 3 or 4 careful chosen effects all set to 100% wet and one = can get a fairly nice ambient vibe going. The Obi Wah is a good substitute = for the stepped phasers, for example.
>
> This is an area where the M13 seems to win over the M9: One more effec= t and you can see all of the live effects at once for tweakage.
>
> The downside, of course, is size.
>
> And then there's the matter of really needing to run this sort of = chain 100% wet which means that there are routing issues to deal with.
>
> Still, I am starting to see how it could be very appealing to use the = M13 as an ambient looper either on the floor or raised up onto a stand for = easier tweakage.
>
> Mark
>
> P.S. Something I haven't tried yet, but it occurs to me: You can p= ut the looper anywhere you want in the signal chain if you use the effects = loop. You put your pre-loop effects in the later slots, put your input into= the FX send before these effects, then feed your output to the input, run = the looper pre-FX, and use the effects send as the output.
>
> Instrument -> FX Return -> Pre-loop FX -> Output -> Input = -> Looper -> Post-loop FX -> FX Send -> Amplifier/Mixer/...
>
>


--20cf307f38e4af787604a69331e4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 01:19:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57B89183473; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhkHALqIBk4yaEvb/2dsb2JhbABSmF+ObIlrwTyGMASHLI9Fi0s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,426,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="133201445" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.75.219 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:23:39 -0500 References: <14299816-E0DE-45CF-BFE4-89D3214333C5@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:19:10 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > with the m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx > patches. Some like filters can be too loud and cause clipping > farther on in the chain. Some seem too soft depending on where you > place them. Same here. A friend of mine is a programmer at Line 6. I nudged him to see if they could add output level controls somehow. Even if it was at a per-preset level instead of per-effect, that would be helpful. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 02:08:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33785183464; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nqRJ36qHFJes/ZSCinEi1KPEbpef4PY419FiwIHrk28=; b=cnAta/3Iv20ToCXy7qirtSITRfAghcU+AsMz6VigMWUZbyjdFJzPzZ5cD2iSKY/PPH t3NjmA/Qqa0IUGmV+CNV1tHSEwDGio4xu+dLRNDwR9lXyyWmwKUq56Y6xq03e5GquSiS miHPcHTXNGruy7d36OnPR6/CwGDjQEzwC9hCk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cRJRx0UTHcrVcYriQXn+LWtneKmWBv6K3u79AdJ+IRcdHz0ZXjnOPfwtV9oPbSLTZ2 vntOS1PbxfW117B4X+P/1sdatNuzIQ7Y60POyZIRJz4JSFf6oESJUyTwLw6uyfmoaKcz +4Awd/08qr+ExYRonuvGsMTGpSIfdaMVRFEnQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <14299816-E0DE-45CF-BFE4-89D3214333C5@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:08:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f91791da45704a693e8b2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:08:13 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f91791da45704a693e8b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool Jeff, we can only hope. That would do it, couldn't be that difficult, although I am not a programmer. They seem to have moved on to the HD stuff, I am hoping there will still be some patching done on the M9/13... Jeff On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > with the m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx patches. >> Some like filters can be too loud and cause clipping farther on in the >> chain. Some seem too soft depending on where you place them. >> > > Same here. A friend of mine is a programmer at Line 6. I nudged him to see > if they could add output level controls somehow. Even if it was at a > per-preset level instead of per-effect, that would be helpful. > > Jeff > > --bcaec53f91791da45704a693e8b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool Jeff, we can only hope. That would do it, couldn't be that difficu= lt, although I am not a programmer. They seem to have moved on to the HD st= uff, I am hoping there will still be some patching done on the M9/13...

Jeff

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:23 PM,= Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:

On Jun 25, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

with the m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx patches. So= me like filters can be too loud and cause clipping farther on in the chain.= Some seem too soft depending on where you place them.

Same here. A friend of mine is a programmer at Line 6. I nudged him to see = if they could add output level controls somehow. Even if it was at a per-pr= eset level instead of per-effect, that would be helpful.

Jeff


--bcaec53f91791da45704a693e8b2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 07:02:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E54C9183465; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2YGWQmKVVN/RtkGE5MWDWno++yuQG/dZNaT/ancCsVI=; b=LYD7H6Iigv9HKTUl6BObUSalcjzX1OkXw8qFPmLmxth4gSoiZlp0Q9BRxVLFh+3TGN VsjzwXkpdGBpUOlGt9pBpaW+8tTA7GPOc6ApQUSPWpxePX1WFXmhGCPvfydYI12Qr1Nh tceLdULf8A8XMJLo/9G/iihjV/GBhkPn9Pbt4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oIXyj7KyYBhIDzmo9dvq2ASgCg3iYjuGxNmJOWZCXDZ9Tb4VW1SuqkI/KXth5Pvjep +bVg3RjXnWNSSysHWjcQvMUTfK/f/A2p6UDslXTNJLNCShl4imboIciu+NP6UWNfFr0/ 9dZZq53UNxgOE72TA/H6GQJkMv0bqP74nWumg= Message-ID: <4E06D988.9010905@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:02:32 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: [ot] Hitch-hiking a big loop through Scandinavia X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi loopers, My daughter, age 17, requested to me to hitch-hike with her to Scandinavia. Originally we wanted to visit my brother in Norway, but he is not at home that time. Now we changed plans and will basically visit the capitals. Of course I will carry my instrument "les Ondes Memorielles" and just wonder, who is residing in Scandinavia and might be able to host us. Any gigging opportunity is welcome as well of course, for any who could bear my experimental style...;-) We will start already next Wednesday, and head of to Copenhagen... Any tips are welcome... loopy greatings from Berlin, Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 09:28:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AE94183460; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Cc: loopers-delight X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Michael Tyson Subject: Re: Loopy 2 critical feedback Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:27:55 +0200 To: mark francombe X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) > Great work on Loopy2... I concur with the others on design, looks very nic= e, as does your site.. for my day-job, my interface design is somewhat simer= lar to yours... Thanks heaps, Mark! > Recording first loop is great no problems... now for me, hitting with 2 fi= ngers for overdub was a bit tricky, as I hav big fat fingers, and sometimes i= t registered as a one finger, and muted. I suggest keeping the circular rada= r indicator, useful and cool, but increasing the hit area to a boxed area ar= ound each circle. you have at lease 5 mm either side and thats a huge increa= se of space in which to hit.=20 Ahh yes, the 2-finger gesture - this is something I've struggled with for a l= ong time, trying to find a good solution. I tried various other arragements a= nd gestures, but everything else that I thought of had bigger issues. It occurs to me just now that perhaps a viable solution might be to assign c= ontrol schemes, depending on how you use the app. Perhaps an 'overdub prime'= mode, where you hold to bring up the track menu, then tap an option to togg= le arming. Armed, a tap punches in/out. Not armed, tap mutes/unmutes. It bas= ically trades gesture simplicity for a slightly longer control route to swit= ch modes. Another option is to reverse the gestures, so tap punches, 2-tap mutes. Or, perhaps I could replace the loop delete gesture (flick down), with mute.= So flick down once to mute. Flick down again while muted, the delete confir= mation shows. Flick up while muted, the track unmutes. A little unwieldy for= some, though. Incidentally, the hit area for the 2-tap is the entire screen surface - it j= ust triggers the closest track to the midpoint between fingers. The only thi= ng is that there's a threshold distance between fingers, beyond which the ge= ature's interpreted as two concurrent single taps (so you can mute/unmute tw= o tracks at once). Perhaps the threshold needs adjusting? > I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 fing= ered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as the defau= lt and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying overdub. (may= be you thought that was dangerous?) I suspect we may have different concepts of the multiply function, or I misu= nderstand you - currently, all the clock manipulation controls (x, /, +, -, a= nd 1) do is adjust the length of the master clock, which serves as the templ= ate length for *new* loops. It doesn't actually modify existing loops, as t= he idea is that you're left with loops that can be different lengths, even a= cross overdubbing. So, to take an existing, say, 2 bar loop and overdub 4 bars onto it, you'd m= ultiply the clock to 4 bars, then record on a new loop, then optionally drag= the new loop onto the other one to end up with a 4 bar composite. The alternative is to have the multiply/etc controls affect the 'selected' l= oop, but that introduces an entire new modality that I'm not particularly co= mfortable with, as I think it would clutter the interface and introduce sign= ificant complexity. > I thought that the slightly dimmed loop-dot was too subtle an indicator th= at the track was muted... go for red overlay on the whole radar circle... th= en I have an overview of whats I have to unmute with one glance. A fair point - I'll have a play with the design. Perhaps dim the track displ= ay. > (UNDO IS COMING RIGHT? Not shaking please... what if its mounted on somthi= ng, or if you shake accidentaly.. remember were musicians... moving mi ass!)= Oh, yes indeed =3D) Actually, I'm quite excited with the plan for this - you= 'll be able to flick through each loop's history by flicking left (back/undo= ) and right (forward/redo) on the track, and the selected version plays live= . So aside from undoing mistakes, you can use it to, for example, build up a= loop then progressively pull the layers back off (and put them on again). O= r, record once, delete and record again, and be able to flick between multip= le takes. > Now being able to multiply is one thing, but inserting and deleting and re= placing are the next step here...=20 > Personally I would skip insert, but you need to be able to delete and repl= ace.=20 >=20 > Both of these functions should be available in unquantised and quantised v= ersions. now really to delete or replace (just to clarify, a replace is a ki= nd of delete where you are recording new material while deleting the origina= l) one needs very accurate control over WHEN you do this, because you often w= ant to take out a tiny click or fart sound that ies somehwere in your loop, a= nd to do that a quick touch on and release off would be best however that ge= sture you already use for record and mute (ok not exactly). maybe you can AR= M delete/replace with a button to change your gesture from mute to delete. Not being a looper myself (or intimately familiar with the terms), I'm afrai= d I'm going to sound a bit dense. But, it sounds like replace is similar to t= he decay/feedback overdub mode I'm planning, but with a fade duration of 1 l= oop (and same with delete, but without making any sound). I'm hoping that'll= be adequate (maybe with a control scheme setting that lets you trigger reco= rd by holding the track, I guess). My goal is to provide useful functionality without cluttering up the interfa= ce with 10000 buttons, so it requires a ruthless refusal to implement some t= hings, and a fair bit of creative interface design to make stuff available b= ut not oppressive. So, forgive me if I sound dismissive of anything =3D) > the quantise/unquantise feature is important. As finger technique on the i= phone is iffy, its unlikely that you can be beat acurate with your clicking.= .. but by forcing your deletes or replaces to divisions of the beat (8ths 16= th) you open up for some cool in synch glitchy rhythm stuff... This feature I= have yet to see on any iphone looper app yet... so how would this work? >=20 > OK the unquantised replace works, as just said, by you touching and the re= cording starts and when you release it ends. > The quantised version works by choosing the quantise division (or lack of )= NONE, 3, 4, 5, 8 and16 should be MORE than enough, then as you finger hits= the recording waits til the next division of the beat, as you release, it a= gain waits til it reaches the next division of the beat. so a quick hit, wou= ld add one segment. I think this should be fairly easy to make work. Actually, the quantise func= tionality you describe (I call it 'count in/out', because it's normally used= for multiple-bar durations) is already in Loopy 2, but instead of hold/rele= ase to trigger, it's tap toggled. One possibility to make this work is to use the track menu to activate an 'o= verdub touch pad' on the track, which incorporates a hittable area you hold t= o overdub, and a quantise duration setting. So, to do a glitchy quantised re= place, you'd activate overdub decay mode with a fade delay of 1 (via the tra= ck menu), then bring up the track touch pad, set the quantise duration and h= ammer away (to 'delete', you'd just be silent). What do you think? > By the way, I found a bug, it seems to function a bit wrong after it has b= een closed and then re-opened. I needed to properly close the app (long pres= s, click the red dot) for it to work properly... Interesting. Could you be more specific on what goes wrong? > For now that ends my report, but you should also take some inspiration fro= m (if you havent already, which I think you have matey) from Proloop from Au= todesk. The feature of being able to use one loop to modify another via ring= modulation is awesome...=20 >=20 > As it stands, tis a great tool, but probaly most of use to the vocal loope= r... the 2 fingers thing is the biggest drawback because it immediately make= s it a TWO HANDED looper, and if you are playing an instrument, (one handed i= nstrument).. but with it mounted on something, it becomes more possible. Thanks heaps for the feedback, Mark, it's been most interesting. I'll have a= think about what I can do better for instrument-bearing loopers. And I'll h= ave a peek at Proloop (which I haven't taken a look at yet, actually) I can't promise I'll implement the other stuff (because I want the app to re= main available to general audiences, as well as the hardcore, button-lovin' t= ypes), but I'll most definitely have a think about what I can do. Thanks again! Michael= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 09:46:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 963B1183473; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Loopy 2 critical feedback References: <7BC096E9-8A78-4E24-8381-19C33997BA84@gmail.com> From: Michael Tyson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: <7BC096E9-8A78-4E24-8381-19C33997BA84@gmail.com> Message-Id: <6F4EF744-EE56-4CA5-AC25-336ACE9CE871@atastypixel.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:46:12 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) >> hitting with 2 fingers for overdub was a bit tricky... and sometimes it r= egistered as a one finger >=20 > Agreed, hand his proposed solution sounds good to me. Also, there's no rea= l reason all six cycles need to be the same size, at least at first. I tend t= o be focused on my last, present, and next loop with any previous loops main= ly of interest for triggering/switching back to, so perhaps the interface co= uld take advantage of this by giving more real-estate to the last, present, a= nd next loop. I'll consider it, but I suspect this might add too much complexity to the in= terface. If possible I'd like to solve the gesture issue instead, possibly v= ia some kind of arm mode. >> I didnt like that to multiply I had to hit a second time before the 2 fin= gered hit for overdub. I would rather have multiple loop overdub as the defa= ult and have a one or two fingered hit to close the multiplying overdub. >=20 > I agree and add to this that I would like a visual indicator of what mode w= ould hit at the end of the cycle. Without that, I'm distracted, wondering if= I hit it right. Interesting that the multiply functionality has given you the same impressio= n as Mark, that it effects an existing track instead of just the master cloc= k. It may be an issue of loaded language, as I understand multiply on tradit= ional loopers does modify tracks directly. =20 There may be some better way to present the interface that doesn't give this= impression, although at the moment I've not a clue! > I couldn't figure out how to multiply. Again, 5 minutes, only checked out t= he 1st few pages of the tutorial, but that's so basic that it should be some= thing instinctual. I noticed pressing and holding didn't seem to do anything= , so perhaps a single press and hold (number of multiple shows) then release= on desired multiple? Hmm, I'm not sure how to make this more visible without leading to interface= clutter (leading to the app becoming unusable for less advanced users). For= simple users, it's less of a critical function, which is why it's a tap awa= y. =20 I expect more advanced users to run quickly through the tutorial, and see th= at you access it by tapping the clock, so I'm not presently expecting too mu= ch trouble. > The biggest problem I had was not hearing the beat or previous material wh= ile overdubbing. Now, I understand why this is, of course, as I was not usin= g headphones so maybe it does play the content of the loop when headphones a= re inserted, I don't yet know, but without it would be very helpful to have v= isual indicator of the beat. Thinking about it now, perhaps there was one in= the lower left, a little circle that flashed, but whatever it was it wasn't= enough. So if you, for instance, start an empty loop intending just to have= the beat, it's real hard to know what you're doing. Or over-dubbing, the au= dio content in the circle, again, doesn't show the beat as precisely as need= ed to keep track of it in your mind. Clear loop start (and even loop-aproac= hing-start-at-some-sensible-interval indicators would be dandy. Forgive me i= f I missed existing signals, again, 5 minutes. The app does include a visual metronome - if you tap the metronome/drum butt= on at the bottom right, you toggle between nothing, audible metronome (drums= , and the drum sequencer when it's implemented), and a full-screen metronome= flash. Is that sufficient? Again, thanks for the feedback - do let me know your thoughts if you start u= sing it more. >=20 > ----Christopher From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 10:38:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6DD183475; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UjAkir+7e4eaaZqnNC0muMWg12EyIg+NVeGwOKw3Vl4=; b=PNnLXWl9dQk2Im515V+D72McSHv8a6jRdOwSh9jaRvAmcFmUjcFpWyEQg93T3Zo0Or rOZEfVSbqRK+YcCUmOHbf/n3QrSrndvoEvKBZbbmjImxA2hthb8wpXrCvo18+o8U3Rf3 EHobhvznEAUqDhM1PlkuorMRlkZHgXyxtdb7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qLrgXFbYq2y1B93NzWmahfNWQBcFCIXXk1uHADdJBbYg+wSAkyFl3YjrkzJkN5OFW+ 8vxFfDuU9xsEVRb3EvGaA+ESIeZoCAk6vLRy9I1/eANdxBerX513a4t5BHHg1GXEBowB MlsMwSE3p7+pyDqDgtroaQuAA9YQu5nfAcM0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E06D988.9010905@googlemail.com> References: <4E06D988.9010905@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:38:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ot] Hitch-hiking a big loop through Scandinavia From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:38:55 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > visit the capitals. > We will start already next Wednesday, and head of to Copenhagen... > > Any tips are welcome... I'm in Stockhom. Some "extreme compact living hosting" might be possible by us here during July, if you pass by this capital. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 10:54:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFF3B183465; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6CQJdWdkJm4gQu7Ox5GosmD86fN/k2GoUV+n+iMuGy4=; b=rMPu023J/HdxZvsQQdIf8sW9Ul5nxpqLgkUcEJwiot/TimAsR0S8/SLA/JgiXdnWJr td8+ezbMv7gq2D0Q33ZHzIYeTvbIbCkTKxvJ2W1tvWqia6tG/0BeuJ4I+e+i5isto6YJ 6G6xwnn00scXbA5YnfxeuonyYgDiP8qJ+Wl7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xGOkhGT1Qsjdbr1ofDCHCsS0Vi/DPzdqYdaj5DJHIi6E6rPT72W5tvjp+E39tD0qvo 14tpYGkMbIgbjb8ammrVpnlmYZUd6TgUYXvjyhO/cePJtSj+2+sHO2XIGjRU2OWUqcuF ZDGmRczb4isuu5SSZayTnWg1kxS0ckuNLEgTs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:54:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another song From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3xmeqD.A.tV.S_wBOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:54:10 +0000 (UTC) very nice voice,is that you singing Jason? On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Jason Finnern wrote: > This is a song a friend I recorded awhile back....Thought it would be cool > to upload a few of my old songs. > > > Thanks, > > Jason > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwI3Z7ZgQ2w -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 15:21:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22545183474; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E074E74.9030905@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:21:24 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #742 for June 23, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:21:28 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110623.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #742 June 23, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Rain Falls in Grey" on Cuneiform Records. RMI: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jun PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Mark Jenkins Shaman's Dance Moog Meditation (AMP) Schonwalder and Cup 2 Filter-Kaffee 101 (SynGate) Rothe Schonwalder and Cup 3 Filter-Kaffee 101 (SynGate) Rothe Saul Stokes Spun Into Static Sleek Nucleus (Stokesmusic) A Dancing Beggar Empty Boats Follow the Dark as if It Were Light (Audiobulb) Circulum Musicum Broken Bonds Phases (Thar) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Radio Massacre Rain FallsI In Philadelphia Air-shot International Grey... (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Bettr'r Day-s Philadelphia Air-shot International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Shut Up Philadelphia Air-shot International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Syd Philadelphia Air-shot International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Emissary Philadelphia Air-shot International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Legacy Philadelphia Air-shot International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre ...Far Away Philadelphia Air-shot International (Northern Echo) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Rain Falls in a Different Way" on Northern Echo. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 19:48:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 952A7183474; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DBtNogPaCzq6RxPmt5Sqk6zlrgRfjYS3FLKQLmNBT4s=; b=EV1dhmB4458/YP8gy7L3q/v6tZR363ns0MJIcTyapEMh6fCs99jLNaAZrYH35Rt9rH Auk6pa3mTGFWEp88EpZ9+HHoX5rzYU7pFsK5n2GVamdQz6a11E0QIgjNyXbe2weL4Mt7 DjgY3XZkKj5t/bucwnJpw2MTG470usRfH7grI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KRFJK5wqcT3oUB6JLpoYc4zPxzsCy5NNEz0AGKNG+yOOHcUpxaihPeJW6KrYd5V7Fa Me4dUYmoGh4/9ZXRAnpdmzSOouPsLBtPdCZNJvDKEVKYBKRf4fc7qiVZmZ1cFLkUXn28 86dU7s5xo8KRI3J/g2w8Rispq9q4CXnrnB1sU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:48:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rocktron midimate From: Alexandre Klinke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:48:47 +0000 (UTC) thanks Daniel and Jeff for your ideas. i might try to program the fcb with PCs and try to use it with mobius and sooperlooper, see how it behaves. i'm tired of dragging the enormous fcb1010 to my gigs, so i'm definitely looking for something smaller. another option would be the softstep, but from what I read here, the software is buggy, so that's a big concern. if anyone else has more insights about the rocktron, or the softstep, I would really appreciate! thanks!! alex On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Daniel Thomas wro= te: >> PC should work fine. =A0The trick with using CCs is that Mobius expects >> the footswitch to send CC greater than zero when you press the switch >> and CC zero when you release the switch. =A0Not all footswitches >> support that. =A0If they don't then Mobius will think you are doing >> a "long press" and various unwanted things will happen. > > > I encountered this exact prob with Mobius and FCB 1010 > > d > > On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Daniel Thomas >> > Recommend that you stick with Midi NOTES. =A0I found CC and PC difficu= lt >> > to manage in Mobius. >> >> PC should work fine. =A0The trick with using CCs is that Mobius expects >> the footswitch to send CC greater than zero when you press the switch >> and CC zero when you release the switch. =A0Not all footswitches >> support that. =A0If they don't then Mobius will think you are doing >> a "long press" and various unwanted things will happen. >> >> Jeff >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 21:25:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C5CA183466; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8215BF92-6408-483C-A724-8DD4B312E473@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-103849929 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:25:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:25:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-103849929 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit with the m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx patches. Some like filters can be too loud and cause clipping farther on in the chain. Some seem too soft depending on where you place them. Maybe just me.. Jeff Agreed, I found the filter effects tame-able by adjusting the effects mix, which has the effect of having a volume control specific to that effect, softening the sound and yes it does make it more subtle which I prefer. Another thing of course that can help would be to use a compressor to limit the volume peaks of the filters but it might require putting the compressor after the filter. In this case I wouldn't use extreme compression, just enough to keep the volume jump from being so extreme, I really like the model of the LA-2 compressor, in the M series, simple to use and can be used as a boost as well if one wanted to. pretty transparent sounding to my ears. conventional guitar player wisdom is compressors should be placed at the front of the signal chain but there are exceptions wah pedals and filters want to be the first thing you hit from your guitar, and depending on the compressors dynamic range, it can also make sense to place the compressor after a filter and sometimes after one's main overdrive if that overdrive also has a tendency to spike your volume. Bill --Apple-Mail-2-103849929 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
with the m9 i do wish it = had more volume control for all the fx patches. Some like filters can be = too loud and cause clipping farther on in the chain. Some seem too soft = depending on where you place them. Maybe just = me..

Jeff


Agreed,  I found the filter = effects tame-able by adjusting the effects mix, which has the effect of = having a volume control specific to that effect, softening the sound and = yes it does make it more subtle which I prefer.  Another thing of = course that can help would be to use a compressor to limit the volume = peaks of the filters but it might require putting the compressor after = the filter. In this case I wouldn't use extreme compression, just enough = to keep the volume jump from being so extreme, I really like the model = of  the LA-2 compressor,  in the M series, simple to use and = can be used as a boost as well if one wanted to.  pretty = transparent sounding to my  ears.  conventional guitar player = wisdom is compressors should be placed at the front of the signal chain = but there are exceptions  wah pedals and filters want to be the = first thing  you hit from your guitar,  and depending on the = compressors dynamic range,  it can also make sense to place the = compressor after a filter and sometimes after one's main overdrive if = that overdrive also has a tendency to spike your = volume. 
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2-103849929-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 21:39:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91C9E183474; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cUv5In/vycN1ua/BVZcnvY54z6b2hvBVJcCyGSkLhDI=; b=Jhb8FUovc09OQMjkrX1tTGBmuUOUfqvns8VP1HhLF2lN46hXSWyJ7c9Q1JTQ0AO2Rl 7buFF0vXwkJ+GNdtfpyThPGuf2XWAuj8+aIJVUDzTz1I99iTsYNhxU3uheYvCXo71MOf H2NvfBySFYDRemb7PLNnwbGWoZOpkaE0w8rVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xjwSxATfF/5zxccZ2A2/UncA5Xqi/sQ1y0gp65mqeD0Zb+7h/jmA/l1syk2FdirQND OI3REvVp3xvZmkqWDt/+YwwkkvyxdxfWQaxUZZU6XZjd7lvI71u2biSSmTd9GKNUcwFb oXtxxJzko4GKczBev771B31dWH+ITRC39JleY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8215BF92-6408-483C-A724-8DD4B312E473@baymoon.com> References: <8215BF92-6408-483C-A724-8DD4B312E473@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:39:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f367ed5480604a6a4430f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:39:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f367ed5480604a6a4430f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yep Bill, that is what I do, use a compressor as a gain stage either before or after depending on what I'm doing. For filters like the Obi-Wah which can have some intense spikes, just turning down my guitar when I kick it in is best, that way I don't have to use a slot for this and I have a tendency to use the fx in the xtreeme setting, lol, so I don't really want to soften them..:) All in all I still love my M9 and work arounds are just part of the whole thing now and forever it seems. peace, jeff On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 5:25 PM, William Walker wrote: > > with the m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx patches. > Some like filters can be too loud and cause clipping farther on in the > chain. Some seem too soft depending on where you place them. Maybe just me.. > > Jeff > > > Agreed, I found the filter effects tame-able by adjusting the effects mix, > which has the effect of having a volume control specific to that effect, > softening the sound and yes it does make it more subtle which I prefer. > Another thing of course that can help would be to use a compressor to limit > the volume peaks of the filters but it might require putting the compressor > after the filter. In this case I wouldn't use extreme compression, just > enough to keep the volume jump from being so extreme, I really like the > model of the LA-2 compressor, in the M series, simple to use and can be > used as a boost as well if one wanted to. pretty transparent sounding to my > ears. conventional guitar player wisdom is compressors should be placed at > the front of the signal chain but there are exceptions wah pedals and > filters want to be the first thing you hit from your guitar, and depending > on the compressors dynamic range, it can also make sense to place the > compressor after a filter and sometimes after one's main overdrive if that > overdrive also has a tendency to spike your volume. > Bill > --20cf307f367ed5480604a6a4430f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yep Bill, that is what I do, use a compressor as a gain stage either before= or after depending on what I'm doing. For filters like the Obi-Wah whi= ch can have some intense spikes, just turning down my guitar when I kick it= in is best, that way I don't have to use a slot for this and I have a = tendency to use the fx in the xtreeme setting, lol, so I don't really w= ant to soften them..:) All in all I still love my M9 and work arounds are j= ust part of the whole thing now and forever it seems.

peace,

jeff

On Sun, Jun 26, 20= 11 at 5:25 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

with the = m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx patches. Some like f= ilters can be too loud and cause clipping farther on in the chain. Some see= m too soft depending on where you place them. Maybe just me..

Jeff


Agreed, =A0I found the filter effects = tame-able by adjusting the effects mix, which has the effect of having a vo= lume control specific to that effect, softening the sound and yes it does m= ake it more subtle which I prefer. =A0Another thing of course that can help= would be to use a compressor to limit the volume peaks of the filters but = it might require putting the compressor after the filter. In this case I wo= uldn't use extreme compression, just enough to keep the volume jump fro= m being so extreme, I really like the model of =A0the LA-2 compressor, =A0i= n the M series, simple to use and can be used as a boost as well if one wan= ted to. =A0pretty transparent sounding to my =A0ears. =A0conventional guita= r player wisdom is compressors should be placed at the front of the signal = chain but there are exceptions =A0wah pedals and filters want to be the fir= st thing =A0you hit from your guitar, =A0and depending on the compressors d= ynamic range, =A0it can also make sense to place the compressor after a fil= ter and sometimes after one's main overdrive if that overdrive also has= a tendency to spike your volume.=A0
Bill

--20cf307f367ed5480604a6a4430f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 23:18:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83A1C183474; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:18:20 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <83B7160B-08CA-4331-A396-DEA36E582E00@grubmah.com> References: <8215BF92-6408-483C-A724-8DD4B312E473@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Hmm. A compressor would eat yet another slot but taming the peaks seems = like a good idea. Favorite chain from yesterday: Obi-Wah > Voice Box > Stereo Delay > = Particle Verb Now, what I'd really like to do is be able to route some of the loop = through dry while running the above chain 100% wet =97 i.e., I want to = hear my loop but I don't want to apply each effect in turn to a little = bit of the loop. For pure ambience effects, however, it may well be fine = to affect the whole loop signal. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 26 23:36:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B852C183474; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PQXDjZ9yOhldhOVacHjypIdRtfPnIlcdexin78qCnDo=; b=qIUQxx74HY6UozZKK82xIAusIJxWMvDzrCMPOQxAPo9MEwUs1lP7hsaUhcGHRN1Zdb L0EvygmzOXXUV/aPr3CTj3UuCKIEwnAzsNVuowLxYkKMMkEt/CYgGb7se9yCyVKGNjdv sYmqwsexfhiKxjrjUev2nx0IUJwa8t72YB4OQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HxVr7I/DtoSfCZGx9nbffuPjSMG37e/NTXReCHsreIXF9tGERTwXiSJzOp2MoVhxNN welsY/QVY3Pv4JcFWI+jO486bo62KXuWPEUoYbj6zLKHMAG8WOuiYajP55AMtS1X3JV0 jHNrpAj+Ja5zQQ6C3dbE5JrnI3stHjkZy8bFw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83B7160B-08CA-4331-A396-DEA36E582E00@grubmah.com> References: <8215BF92-6408-483C-A724-8DD4B312E473@baymoon.com> <83B7160B-08CA-4331-A396-DEA36E582E00@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:36:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f367ed6a61f04a6a5e7c3 Resent-Message-ID: <8y_88B.A.WBD.FK8BOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:36:37 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f367ed6a61f04a6a5e7c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't remember exactly what fx I used on this but the main ones are the M= 9 obi-wah, Hardwire reverse reverb and several Alesis mod fx, Bitrman, Ampliton and a Smashup to tame it :). http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Null.mp3 looped with an EH 2880 two stereo tracks. Jeff On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Hmm. A compressor would eat yet another slot but taming the peaks seems > like a good idea. > > Favorite chain from yesterday: Obi-Wah > Voice Box > Stereo Delay > > Particle Verb > > Now, what I'd really like to do is be able to route some of the loop > through dry while running the above chain 100% wet =97 i.e., I want to he= ar my > loop but I don't want to apply each effect in turn to a little bit of the > loop. For pure ambience effects, however, it may well be fine to affect t= he > whole loop signal. > > Mark > > --20cf307f367ed6a61f04a6a5e7c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't remember exactly what fx I used on this but the main ones are t= he M9 obi-wah, Hardwire reverse reverb and several Alesis mod fx, Bitrman, = Ampliton and a Smashup to tame it :). http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/Null.mp3 looped with an E= H 2880 two stereo tracks.

Jeff



On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at = 7:18 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
Hmm. A compressor would eat yet another slot but taming the peaks seems lik= e a good idea.

Favorite chain from yesterday: Obi-Wah > Voice Box > Stereo Delay >= ; Particle Verb

Now, what I'd really like to do is be able to route some of the loop th= rough dry while running the above chain 100% wet =97 i.e., I want to hear m= y loop but I don't want to apply each effect in turn to a little bit of= the loop. For pure ambience effects, however, it may well be fine to affec= t the whole loop signal.

Mark


--20cf307f367ed6a61f04a6a5e7c3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 06:35:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDDB1183474; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c448275b-e6f8-454e-b237-a6cc6f0eeec3_" X-Originating-IP: [217.44.236.45] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Ambience and the M13 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:35:45 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8215BF92-6408-483C-A724-8DD4B312E473@baymoon.com> References: <8215BF92-6408-483C-A724-8DD4B312E473@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2011 06:35:46.0678 (UTC) FILETIME=[72720160:01CC3494] Resent-Message-ID: <-w8cWB.A.KiH.DTCCOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:35:47 +0000 (UTC) --_c448275b-e6f8-454e-b237-a6cc6f0eeec3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah=2C Some of the filters can distort on high Q settings and a master vol= ume would be cool too. I think Mark's point about the lack of a pitch shift= ing delay is moot. I suggested this on line6's forum but the engineer didn'= t seem to understand why it was desirable. He pointed out that you could ge= t a delayed pitch shift by combining 2 pedals=2C (but of course you lose th= e feedback effect and the ability to just pitch shift the delay portion whi= le leaving the dry guitar unaltered). Despite these caveats though the M13 = kicks ambient bottom! Peace=2C G From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ambience and the M13 Date: Sun=2C 26 Jun 2011 14:25:31 -0700 with the m9 i do wish it had more volume control for all the fx patches. So= me like filters can be too loud and cause clipping farther on in the chain.= Some seem too soft depending on where you place them. Maybe just me.. Jeff Agreed=2C I found the filter effects tame-able by adjusting the effects mi= x=2C which has the effect of having a volume control specific to that effec= t=2C softening the sound and yes it does make it more subtle which I prefer= . Another thing of course that can help would be to use a compressor to li= mit the volume peaks of the filters but it might require putting the compre= ssor after the filter. In this case I wouldn't use extreme compression=2C j= ust enough to keep the volume jump from being so extreme=2C I really like t= he model of the LA-2 compressor=2C in the M series=2C simple to use and c= an be used as a boost as well if one wanted to. pretty transparent soundin= g to my ears. conventional guitar player wisdom is compressors should be = placed at the front of the signal chain but there are exceptions wah pedal= s and filters want to be the first thing you hit from your guitar=2C and = depending on the compressors dynamic range=2C it can also make sense to pl= ace the compressor after a filter and sometimes after one's main overdrive = if that overdrive also has a tendency to spike your volume. Bill = = --_c448275b-e6f8-454e-b237-a6cc6f0eeec3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah=2C Some of the filters can distort on high Q settings and a master vol= ume would be cool too. I think Mark's point about the lack of a pitch shift= ing delay is moot. I suggested this on line6's forum but the engineer didn'= t seem to understand why it was desirable. He pointed out that you could ge= t a delayed pitch shift by combining 2 pedals=2C (but of course you lose th= e feedback effect and the ability to just pitch shift the delay portion whi= le leaving the dry guitar unaltered). =3B
Despite these caveats tho= ugh the M13 kicks ambient bottom!

Peace=2C

G

From: billwalk= er@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: A= mbience and the M13
Date: Sun=2C 26 Jun 2011 14:25:31 -0700


<= font class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" color=3D"#430096">with the m9 i do wish = it had more volume control for all the fx patches. Some like filters can be= too loud and cause clipping farther on in the chain. Some seem too soft de= pending on where you place them. Maybe just me..

Jeff


A= greed=2C  =3BI found the filter effects tame-able by adjusting the effe= cts mix=2C which has the effect of having a volume control specific to that= effect=2C softening the sound and yes it does make it more subtle which I = prefer.  =3BAnother thing of course that can help would be to use a com= pressor to limit the volume peaks of the filters but it might require putti= ng the compressor after the filter. In this case I wouldn't use extreme com= pression=2C just enough to keep the volume jump from being so extreme=2C I = really like the model of  =3Bthe LA-2 compressor=2C  =3Bin the M se= ries=2C simple to use and can be used as a boost as well if one wanted to. =  =3Bpretty transparent sounding to my  =3Bears.  =3Bconventiona= l guitar player wisdom is compressors should be placed at the front of the = signal chain but there are exceptions  =3Bwah pedals and filters want t= o be the first thing  =3Byou hit from your guitar=2C  =3Band depend= ing on the compressors dynamic range=2C  =3Bit can also make sense to p= lace the compressor after a filter and sometimes after one's main overdrive= if that overdrive also has a tendency to spike your volume. =3B
<= div>Bill
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More info: http://bit.ly/juaInw Ricky http://rickygraham.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 14:57:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07EF5183466; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Reyn Ouwehand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-166991676 Subject: Re: "Ableton style" looper for the iPhone -- Fr ee Promotional Copies Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:57:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> Message-Id: <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QbDG6-0008Gj-2B X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.544, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, FRT_FREE 3.43, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, T_FRT_FREE 0.01) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:57:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-166991676 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well done Michael! Looks great! Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net www.reyn.net/studio On Jun 24, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: > Cheers Phil! >=20 > I'm not sure about EDP control/visualisation, but I can tell you I'm = planning on bringing the app to the iPad =3D) >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com > A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac >=20 > Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the = formula. Now available: loopyapp.com >=20 > Subscribe to our newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter >=20 > e: michael@atastypixel.com > skype/aim: mikerusselltyson > twitter: MichaelTyson >=20 > On 24 Jun 2011, at 21:00, Phil Clevenger = wrote: >=20 >> Yes, as a UI designer myself, I must applaud your lovely UI.=20 >>=20 >> Honestly, I'd love to have this on my iPad as a visualizer and = controller for my EDP - ! >>=20 >> V2? >>=20 >> Best, >>=20 >> Phil :) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >>=20 >>> Looks GREAT!! Any 1/2 speed or reverse playback options? >>>=20 >>> CZ >>>=20 >>>> Hi Looper's Delight members, >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone = that combines power with simplicity. >>>>=20 >>>> The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best = looper for the iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX = reckons "Loopy is the only iPhone app I would use to show off with!" >>>>=20 >>>> We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to = good use, and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a few = free promotional copies. >>>>=20 >>>> The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will = receive a free promotional copy of Loopy 2! =20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks again and happy looping! >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com >>>> A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac >>>>=20 >>>> Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without = others! Now available. >>>>=20 >>>> Subscribe to our newsletter >>>>=20 >>>> e: michael@atastypixel.com >>>> skype/aim: mikerusselltyson >>>> twitter: MichaelTyson >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>>=20 >>> ... >>> http://www.zmix.net >>>=20 >>> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >>>=20 >>> http://albumcredits.com/zmix >>=20 --Apple-Mail-1-166991676 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Well = done Michael! Looks = great!

Cheers,

Reyn
www.reyn.net/studio

=
On Jun 24, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Michael Tyson wrote:

Cheers Phil!

I'm not = sure about EDP control/visualisation, but I can tell you I'm planning on = bringing the app to the iPad = =3D)


-- 
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty = Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac

Loopy 2: A = savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the formula. Now = available: loopyapp.com

Subscrib= e to our newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newslett= er

<= div>skype/aim: mikerusselltyson
twitter: = MichaelTyson

On 24 Jun 2011, at 21:00, Phil = Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> = wrote:

Yes, as a = UI designer myself, I must applaud your lovely = UI. 

Honestly, I'd love to have this on my iPad = as a visualizer and controller for my EDP - = !

V2?

Best,
Phil = :)



On = Jun 24, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote:

We've recently = launched Loopy 2 -- a = live looper for the iPhone that combines power with = simplicity.
The guys over = at iOS = Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for the = iPhone we've seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons "Loopy is = the only iPhone app I would use to show off = with!"
We thought some of you = would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good use, and we'd also like = to say thank you for your input with a few free promotional = copies.
The first 9 people = to email us at support@atastypixel.com=  will receive a = free promotional copy of Loopy = 2!  
Thanks again and happy = looping!
-- 
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for = iPhone and Mac

Loopy = 2: A savvy, tactile new looper = app. Plays well without others! Now = available.

Subscribe to our = newsletter

e: michael@atastypixel.com
skype/aim: = mikerusselltyson
twitter: MichaelTyson


--=20


= --Apple-Mail-1-166991676-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 15:40:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6588183465; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:40:50 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110627154050.21550@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Another song To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ph5olye9pf+awrhu2ulR3EtubMt0nW00B3BchwQ qUsIepzcuG5A1hOW3fmYo9RWDt1gqPKWL8vg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: tpY/eQJxbGInTtBtlmVnC1NvcmZ1Zlw7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Liked the voice & overall song. Guitar sound was a bit too "mushy" for my taste. Liked also the break. nice! Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 18:23:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7618E183473; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5Z1sbvJbaGJ9LF1UQ+1z4vWqsg97x5mA/v29KC5XsYk=; b=J3RQUnpwpXObDtz5Hi//mrt1lV/KGkimfS9R3Tb5reKIfXer4aqsxYYYlnF1YJ18z7 RYZpbtimm3qD4L4ni7dRonO2gcdkQNmuEpNkpTtr+qMNzx6hnrL4K/ako1UG1/QTrHqI buQx2W9q+f/NwizYEyFs7R849I59tCES3Cs30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bD2c4LknK93c1c5fb8ulEIj+r754epOXFq5ilo7z+AbVQhvoTQ6QBSc9HIobFvJwYA ASKJv20CuMAiy3fQwvDD+UzGQcjV/JtPSazPXDxq2xNYfozeDoXUzu5RQvI+kUR+iQ9A 3PdLsUMeBxenbxuxww5E+XvBZQRg7OTU0imx0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:23:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Ableton style" looper for the iPhone -- Fr ee Promotional Copies From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:23:15 +0000 (UTC) wrote: > Loopy 2! One of the first apps I bought for my iphone was Loopy, or I guess it should now be called "Loopy 1"? Version two looks great! I think the iphone offers good acoustic mono recording but I have not much experience with electric instruments (except for playing electric guitar to ear plugs through IK Multimedia AmpliTube). Any ideas on the possibilities to use an electric input for Loopy 2? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 19:43:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBF75183465; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: "Ableton style" looper for the iPhone -- Fr ee Promotional Copies References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> From: Michael Tyson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0775E9F6-E598-40A8-BBC8-E1EA990D974E@atastypixel.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:43:13 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <-p6txD.A.jWB.n1NCOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per! Inputs are treated the same as mic input on the iPhone/etc, with the appropr= iate accessory adapter, so I don't see any impediments! --=20 Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the formu= la. Now available: loopyapp.com Subscribe to our newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter e: michael@atastypixel.com skype/aim: mikerusselltyson twitter: MichaelTyson On 27 Jun 2011, at 20:23, Per Boysen wrote: > wrote: >> Loopy 2! >=20 >=20 > One of the first apps I bought for my iphone was Loopy, or I guess it > should now be called "Loopy 1"? Version two looks great! I think the > iphone offers good acoustic mono recording but I have not much > experience with electric instruments (except for playing electric > guitar to ear plugs through IK Multimedia AmpliTube). Any ideas on the > possibilities to use an electric input for Loopy 2? >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 19:48:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BEBC183464; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VtjkdMwdLJVCUlU1byBzDXxOySOJRUvOqBxCALcFK50=; b=sjeTR0HFFkrB1ppxX/8FfHzkcf8LylREFEGHlygOc7OVmXePmrCHDsmtrODHYsLyL/ 4kz8JHcYHXo3RhYcm2C5Ie6tCc1ehvl1ShOabQOXYbyoLri6EzxYhmTSsdRM7Mf+SxY8 GxTUzLzFSzEMISFUCO3bt1KTiWP50G/wy5HvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V/rrXZzL9aWdrwrzoy9/XIXcfCGGS+Qio5EM9ZHEFVQiqFGxlR4xoc+gVpOiKPkebk gWM51ZDCyJgw2CUpqy4tXOpPkhrPbaxnsb3OfFizd6ed1Oz0uLWXHJpzYz9YXkyj+oXX Hf/taHMvnsYnizso6xJNBPqwMiiSHZrs6GPSM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0775E9F6-E598-40A8-BBC8-E1EA990D974E@atastypixel.com> References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> <0775E9F6-E598-40A8-BBC8-E1EA990D974E@atastypixel.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:48:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Ableton style" looper for the iPhone -- Fr ee Promotional Copies From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Cool, that means one can use the AmpliTube guitar jack input/phones output dongle! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: > Thanks Per! > > Inputs are treated the same as mic input on the iPhone/etc, with the appropriate accessory adapter, so I don't see any impediments! > > > > -- > Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com > A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac > > Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the formula. Now available: loopyapp.com > > Subscribe to our newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter > > e: michael@atastypixel.com > skype/aim: mikerusselltyson > twitter: MichaelTyson > > On 27 Jun 2011, at 20:23, Per Boysen wrote: > >> wrote: >>> Loopy 2! >> >> >> One of the first apps I bought for my iphone was Loopy, or I guess it >> should now be called "Loopy 1"? Version two looks great! I think the >> iphone offers good acoustic mono recording but I have not much >> experience with electric instruments (except for playing electric >> guitar to ear plugs through IK Multimedia AmpliTube). Any ideas on the >> possibilities to use an electric input for Loopy 2? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 20:04:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08AC1183473; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=f6Nl1RBLZcYyAHk3GDQfU2uM6N4hntG6wYAnVlg7/Yuo4JMQzddRazE5xKTZdyRj; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:04:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Loopy2 Mini Review.. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-902917421==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f030ff036fab0cdce2597563c9c98e1e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:04:36 +0000 (UTC) --============_-902917421==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Loopy 2 mini-review After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch 4th generation I find that there are some features that put it above the rest of the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an instrument" world is concerned. I've highlighted them here: 6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different lengths...! After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and divide icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent loop to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop. By using the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be set to any arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original loop. This feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know. By setting each of the loops to a different number of beats you can easily create complex polyrhythms, and for creating long undulating ambient backgrounds is the next best thing to completely unsynched loops. There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or disable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very important feature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get your hands back on your instrument before it goes into record. Global menus and individual submenus... Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your finger down on a loop, allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan position, as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in your session. This is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / iPhone, plus it streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are hidden until needed. Stereo This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positioned within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the empty loops. The big news here is that when merging two tracks (by simply dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track retains the stereo placement and level of the two original source tracks, and you now have one stereo track where you previously had two mono tracks. The length of the merged track is automatically set to the common multiple of the two source tracks, so any polyrhythms will be retained. Performance recording A "session" is defined as the six loops and their settings. Sessions may be saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there is also the ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along with your performance over the top of them and save this to the "recordings" folder. Latency I've tested several iOS apps for latency using the iRig interface (which uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the headphone jack. and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency measurement of 930 samples (21ms). It's not much of a problem in actual use except for highly precise rhythmic playing. Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps: Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, iOS 4.3.3 Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28.2ms) Loopy2 930 samples (21ms) Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms) TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms) Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (11.11ms) -Chuck Zwicky -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-902917421==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Loopy2 Mini Review..

Loopy 2 mini-review

After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch 4th generation I find that there are some features that put it above the rest of the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an instrument" world is concerned.

I've highlighted them here:


6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different lengths...!

After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and divide icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent loop to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop.   By using the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be set to any arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original loop.  This feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know.  By setting each of the loops to a different number of beats you can easily create complex polyrhythms,  and for creating long undulating ambient backgrounds is the next best thing to completely unsynched loops.

There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or disable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very important feature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get your hands back on your instrument  before it goes into record.

Global menus and individual submenus...

Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your finger down on a loop,  allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan position, as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in your session. This is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / iPhone, plus it streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are hidden until needed.

Stereo

This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positioned within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the empty loops.   The big news here is that when merging two tracks (by simply dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track retains the stereo placement and level of the two original source tracks, and you now have one stereo track where you previously had two mono tracks. The length of the merged track is automatically set to the common multiple of the two source tracks, so any polyrhythms will be retained.

Performance recording

A "session" is defined as the six loops and their settings. Sessions may be saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there is also the ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along with your performance over the top of them and save this to the "recordings" folder.

Latency

I've tested several iOS apps for latency  using the iRig interface (which uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the headphone jack.

and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency measurement of 930 samples (21ms).   It's not much of a problem in actual use except for highly precise rhythmic playing.

Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps:

Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, iOS 4.3.3

Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28.2ms)

Loopy2 930 samples (21ms)

Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms)

TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms)

Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (11.11ms)



-Chuck Zwicky

--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-902917421==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 20:21:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EF46183462; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AvjnQXZjo8LmFT6QXur6eXW6wa6reqWcJzSSGHatNlo=; b=UI79EWrJeBjh1UPecM6h6S17oDgF7o0lVXpZ6481UuPZOYfMSA3T1lcy9eWEgFqHBq c5VO5KI2NQ7kqC7IWTn/bmF2qiKjfwUmNfu2o/D5ZiruiAQ1JuMSS8i+28nyZSRTJbt1 K4tWOZ+mOVd6eWKHlsfcsCWbZIoosuZgrBtSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F0/3CUERzGVXVIbyeSxybW+sDIaHWdEuTpyuSXRsw1CAXYf+jRuZsXSxAO9+wLk2kD GS69R8PI7QQA9C8v1+Q/HizJauYmkTQd0V0Yl4C0P9JUDnipJfY0YfSKqj80OvpudERg usPsLi3h4ZnF65+dFgM8T7H0TaSN4WpNI4RD0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:21:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopy2 Mini Review.. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:21:40 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Loopy 2 mini-review Thank you for the excellent review, Chuck! Loopy 2 goes into my to-buy list ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 20:36:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9361E183465; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=3mFSGWTZJfrk5/uUn09BOQ5f5V3iJlVjlt4mJb9VgyM=; b=jsVX8J/yHH43BywCKdlGnoRqAa5oUocdoPEgqA6TeCP34YA4JAlfrI2aYPU3iPcP6w rfTxJN6bGP7BQAiuj9sY+K4UDxdn6FhlofQnokMWb8zXrUHVRCvLy8sRjR6edJanvvZ5 uvbgr1/Ubftd9v0AM2+8tu0SNMickLAn/fTcU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=d/Kejk/1mEAIJ0/C/BnhlkLGyJ/V7BGMTtKXgtu7+cO/lsR7zDmvBXNEe/ZjrqxWEL M24weshTthkKAsPjeRG8Z1q6cYR12PQ+sRcwNxCU94UDhW1e8fChwKB+Idc5nvSP7gH0 vDRwgGbAfoeq5UK4nmBSI65bWfJ5LVZujzoNY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:36:26 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: AmOaLIFv3-_L7yrcWlLhfOPMSso Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopy2 Mini Review.. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6135888acb6004a6b7821a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:36:47 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6135888acb6004a6b7821a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here here Charles! You found even more new cool stuff I missed... I hadnt managed poly rythyms, but as you show, its easy peasy! On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: > > Loopy 2 mini-review > > Thank you for the excellent review, Chuck! Loopy 2 goes into my to-buy list > ;-) > > Per > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6135888acb6004a6b7821a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here here Charles! You found even more new cool stuff I missed... I hadnt m= anaged poly rythyms, but as you show, its easy peasy!


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>= wrote:
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Charles Z= wicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net<= /a>> wrote:
> Loopy 2 mini-review

Thank you for the excellent review, Chuck! Loopy 2 goes into my to-buy list= ;-)

Per




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--90e6ba6135888acb6004a6b7821a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 21:02:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E492183466; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Reyn Ouwehand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-188854309 Subject: Re: Loopy2 Mini Review.. Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:02:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QbIwi-0004AC-NQ X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.899, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:02:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-188854309 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't think I can buy it in the Dutch iTunes store.. :-( Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net www.reyn.net/studio On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >=20 > Loopy 2 mini-review >=20 > After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch = 4th generation I find that there are some features that put it above the = rest of the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an = instrument" world is concerned. >=20 > I've highlighted them here: >=20 >=20 > 6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different = lengths...! >=20 > After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and divide = icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent = loop to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop. = By using the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be = set to any arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original = loop. This feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know. By = setting each of the loops to a different number of beats you can easily = create complex polyrhythms, and for creating long undulating ambient = backgrounds is the next best thing to completely unsynched loops. >=20 > There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or = disable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very = important feature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get = your hands back on your instrument before it goes into record. >=20 > Global menus and individual submenus... >=20 > Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your = finger down on a loop, allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan = position, as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in = your session. This is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the = iPod / iPhone, plus it streamlines the GUI so than non-essential = functions are hidden until needed. >=20 > Stereo >=20 > This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be = positioned within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset = for the empty loops. The big news here is that when merging two tracks = (by simply dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track = retains the stereo placement and level of the two original source = tracks, and you now have one stereo track where you previously had two = mono tracks. The length of the merged track is automatically set to the = common multiple of the two source tracks, so any polyrhythms will be = retained. >=20 > Performance recording >=20 > A "session" is defined as the six loops and their settings. Sessions = may be saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there is also = the ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along with your = performance over the top of them and save this to the "recordings" = folder. >=20 > Latency >=20 > I've tested several iOS apps for latency using the iRig interface = (which uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the = headphone jack. >=20 > and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency = measurement of 930 samples (21ms). It's not much of a problem in = actual use except for highly precise rhythmic playing. >=20 > Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps: >=20 > Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample rate, iPod Touch 4th = gen, iOS 4.3.3 >=20 > Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28.2ms) >=20 > Loopy2 930 samples (21ms) >=20 > Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms) >=20 > TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms) >=20 > Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (11.11ms) >=20 >=20 >=20 > -Chuck Zwicky >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix --Apple-Mail-1-188854309 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I don't think I can buy it in the Dutch iTunes = store.. = :-(

Cheers,

Reyn


=
On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote:


Loopy 2 = mini-review

After spending a bit more time = with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch 4th generation I find that there = are some features that put it above the rest of the available iOS = loopers in terms of the "Looping as an instrument" world is = concerned.

I've highlighted them = here:


6 simultaneous = overdub-capable loops that can each be different = lengths...!

After recording your initial = loop, you can use the multiply and divide icons at the bottom of the = screen to make the length of any subsequent loop to be an even multiple = (or fraction) of the first recorded loop.   By using the Plus = and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be set to any = arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original = loop.  This feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know.  = By setting each of the loops to a different number of beats you can = easily create complex polyrhythms,  and for creating long = undulating ambient backgrounds is the next best thing to completely = unsynched loops.

There is an option in the = settings menu that allows you to enable or disable "count-in" while = recording or overdubbing. This is a very important feature, it allows = you to arm a track and have time to get your hands back on your = instrument  before it goes into = record.

Global menus and individual = submenus...

Each of the 6 loops has a built = in sub-menu, called up by holding your finger down on a loop,  = allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan position, as well as import = and export audio to an from each loop in your session. This is a = brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / iPhone, plus it = streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are hidden until = needed.

Stereo

Th= is is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positioned = within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the = empty loops.   The big news here is that when merging two = tracks (by simply dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track = retains the stereo placement and level of the two original source = tracks, and you now have one stereo track where you previously had two = mono tracks. The length of the merged track is automatically set to the = common multiple of the two source tracks, so any polyrhythms will be = retained.

Performance = recording

A "session" is defined as the six = loops and their settings. Sessions may be saved and recalled, or even = duplicated at will, and there is also the ability to make a stereo = recording of the 6 loops along with your performance over the top of = them and save this to the "recordings" = folder.

Latency

I= 've tested several iOS apps for latency  using the iRig interface = (which uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the = headphone jack.

and the Loopy 2 has a = reasonable, but not exceptional, latency measurement of 930 samples = (21ms).   It's not much of a problem in actual use except for = highly precise rhythmic playing.

Here's how it = stacks up to other iOS apps:

Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample rate, = iPod Touch 4th gen, iOS 4.3.3

Everyday Looper 1244 samples = (28.2ms)

Loopy2 930 samples = (21ms)

Amplitube Fender = Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms)

TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples = (16.5ms)

Amplitube Fender = Free low latency mode 490 samples = (11.11ms)



-C= huck Zwicky

--=20

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From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a30db368bc04a6b845e1 Resent-Message-ID: <4ZFkP.A.nXD.paPCOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:31:21 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec548a30db368bc04a6b845e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charles thanks for a detailed analysis of this. How is the iRig btw? Is i= t stable and clean or moderately clean? Thx Jim On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Charles Zwicky wro= te: > ** > > *Loopy 2 mini-review* > > After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch 4th > generation I find that there are some features that put it above the rest= of > the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an instrument" worl= d > is concerned. > > I've highlighted them here: > > > *6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different > lengths...!* > > After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and divide > icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent lo= op > to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop. By usi= ng > the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be set to any > arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original loop. This > feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know. By setting each of the > loops to a different number of beats you can easily create complex > polyrhythms, and for creating long undulating ambient backgrounds is the > next best thing to completely unsynched loops. > > There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or > disable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very importa= nt > feature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get your hands bac= k > on your instrument before it goes into record. > > *Global menus and individual submenus...* > > Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your > finger down on a loop, allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan > position, as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in your > session. This is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / > iPhone, plus it streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are > hidden until needed. > > *Stereo* > > This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positione= d > within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the empt= y > loops. The big news here is that when merging two tracks (by simply > dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track retains the stereo > placement and level of the two original source tracks, and you now have o= ne > stereo track where you previously had two mono tracks. The length of the > merged track is automatically set to the common multiple of the two sourc= e > tracks, so any polyrhythms will be retained. > > *Performance recording* > > A "session" is defined as the six loops and their settings. Sessions may = be > saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there is also the > ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along with your > performance over the top of them and save this to the "recordings" folder= . > > *Latency* > > I've tested several iOS apps for latency using the iRig interface (which > uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the headphone > jack. > > and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency measuremen= t > of 930 samples (21ms). It's not much of a problem in actual use except = for > highly precise rhythmic playing. > > Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps: > > Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, i= OS > 4.3.3 > > Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28.2ms) > > Loopy2 930 samples (21ms) > > Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms) > > TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms) > > Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (11.11ms) > > > > -Chuck Zwicky > > ** > > -- > > ** > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec548a30db368bc04a6b845e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charles thanks for a detailed analysis of this.=A0 How is the iRig btw?=A0 = Is it stable and clean or moderately clean?=20
=A0
Thx=A0 Jim
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Charles Zwicky = <cazwicky@ea= rthlink.net> wrote:

Loopy 2 mini-review

After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch 4t= h generation I find that there are some features that put it above the rest= of the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an instrumen= t" world is concerned.

I've highlighted them here:


6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different len= gths...!

After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and divide= icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent loo= p to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop.=A0=A0 By= using the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be se= t to any arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original loop= .=A0 This feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know.=A0 By setting e= ach of the loops to a different number of beats you can easily create compl= ex polyrhythms,=A0 and for creating long undulating ambient backgrounds is = the next best thing to completely unsynched loops.

There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or d= isable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very = important feature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get your h= ands back on your instrument=A0 before it goes into record.

Global menus and individual submenus...

Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your= finger down on a loop,=A0 allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan pos= ition, as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in your sess= ion. This is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / iPhon= e, plus it streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are hidden u= ntil needed.

Stereo

This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positi= oned within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the e= mpty loops.=A0=A0 The big news here is that when merging two tracks (by sim= ply dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track retain= s the stereo placement and level of the two original source tracks, and you= now have one stereo track where you previously had two mono tracks. The le= ngth of the merged track is automatically set to the common multiple of the= two source tracks, so any polyrhythms will be retained.

Performance recording

A "session" is defined as the six loops and their settings. = Sessions may be saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there i= s also the ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along with you= r performance over the top of them and save this to the "recordings&qu= ot; folder.

Latency

I've tested several iOS apps for latency=A0 using the iRig interfa= ce (which uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the he= adphone jack.

and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency measure= ment of 930 samples (21ms).=A0=A0 It's not much of a problem in actual = use except for highly precise rhythmic playing.

Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps:

Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample = rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, iOS 4.3.3

Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28= .2ms)

Loopy2 930 samples (21ms)

Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode= 736 samples (16.69ms)

TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms)<= /font>

Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490= samples (11.11ms)



-Chuck Zwicky

--=20



--
From Brooklyn = To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Internat= ional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec548a30db368bc04a6b845e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 21:34:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0311183461; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=N4waieGx/TE/Fal26FLBRnhFo/ESFM4nYSgOvf1X+13m4d0DcOQO/AsOiRPqlBBk; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:34:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Loopy2 Mini Review.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a5257a0c539747edfa72c6245714f03f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:34:41 +0000 (UTC) It's on special for $2.99... >On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: >> Loopy 2 mini-review > >Thank you for the excellent review, Chuck! Loopy 2 goes into my >to-buy list ;-) > >Per -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 21:43:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0177D183473; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=kKjGjVWZ777jhzB/TZRa3tC309GsQdxI9JZL0d95+YMKzZkuQHCXdinzVt3fDnro; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:43:14 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Loopy2 Mini Review.. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-902911485==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79200368f4d6223a7eefe24c89818a1280350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:43:32 +0000 (UTC) --============_-902911485==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, The iRig is fine, it is clean, and provides a=20 high input impedance so the guitar tone isn't=20 compromised. It's no better or worse than any=20 other "hijack the mic input" device. I have=20 compared several and despite various claims about=20 "feedback immunity", level and noise, they all=20 measured about the same. Self noise is high on=20 the mic input, but they all sound fine. I had the Apogee "Jam" which was considerably=20 quieter, but the only app that recognized it was=20 the Peterson strobe tuner, so I sold it and=20 bought the iRig. -Chuck >Charles thanks for a detailed analysis of this.=20 >How is the iRig btw? Is it stable and clean or=20 >moderately clean? > >Thx Jim >On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Charles Zwicky=20 ><cazwicky@earthlink.net>=20 >wrote: > > >Loopy 2 mini-review > >After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2=20 >app on my iPod touch 4th generation I find that=20 >there are some features that put it above the=20 >rest of the available iOS loopers in terms of=20 >the "Looping as an instrument" world is=20 >concerned. > >I've highlighted them here: > > >6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different lengths...! > >After recording your initial loop, you can use=20 >the multiply and divide icons at the bottom of=20 >the screen to make the length of any subsequent=20 >loop to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the=20 >first recorded loop. By using the Plus and=20 >Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be=20 >set to any arbitrary number of beats longer or=20 >shorter than the original loop. This feature is=20 >unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know. By=20 >setting each of the loops to a different number=20 >of beats you can easily create complex=20 >polyrhythms, and for creating long undulating=20 >ambient backgrounds is the next best thing to=20 >completely unsynched loops. > >There is an option in the settings menu that=20 >allows you to enable or disable "count-in" while=20 >recording or overdubbing. This is a very=20 >important feature, it allows you to arm a track=20 >and have time to get your hands back on your=20 >instrument before it goes into record. > >Global menus and individual submenus... > >Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu,=20 >called up by holding your finger down on a loop,=20 >allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan=20 >position, as well as import and export audio to=20 >an from each loop in your session. This is a=20 >brilliant use of the limited real estate of the=20 >iPod / iPhone, plus it streamlines the GUI so=20 >than non-essential functions are hidden until=20 >needed. > >Stereo > >This is one of the most exciting features for=20 >me. Tracks may be positioned within the stereo=20 >soundfield and pan positions may be preset for=20 >the empty loops. The big news here is that=20 >when merging two tracks (by simply dragging on=20 >onto another) the resulting "merged" track=20 >retains the stereo placement and level of the=20 >two original source tracks, and you now have one=20 >stereo track where you previously had two mono=20 >tracks. The length of the merged track is=20 >automatically set to the common multiple of the=20 >two source tracks, so any polyrhythms will be=20 >retained. > >Performance recording > >A "session" is defined as the six loops and=20 >their settings. Sessions may be saved and=20 >recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there=20 >is also the ability to make a stereo recording=20 >of the 6 loops along with your performance over=20 >the top of them and save this to the=20 >"recordings" folder. > >Latency > >I've tested several iOS apps for latency using=20 >the iRig interface (which uses the mic input of=20 >the idevice via the 4th connector on the=20 >headphone jack. > >and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not=20 >exceptional, latency measurement of 930 samples=20 >(21ms). It's not much of a problem in actual=20 >use except for highly precise rhythmic playing. > >Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps: > >Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample=20 >rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, iOS 4.3.3 > >Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28.2ms) > >Loopy2 930 samples (21ms) > >Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms) > >TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms) > >Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (11.11ms) > > > >-Chuck Zwicky > >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > > > >-- >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz=20 >recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF=20 >International.=20 >jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > >woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-902911485==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Loopy2 Mini Review..
Jim,

  The iRig is fine, it is clean, and provides a high input impedance so the guitar tone isn't compromised.  It's no better or worse than any other "hijack the mic input" device.  I  have compared several and despite various claims about "feedback immunity", level and noise,   they all measured about the same.  Self noise is high on the mic input, but they all sound fine.

I had the Apogee "Jam" which was considerably quieter, but the only app that recognized it was the Peterson strobe tuner, so I sold it and bought the iRig.

-Chuck

Charles thanks for a detailed analysis of this.  How is the iRig btw?  Is it stable and clean or moderately clean?
 
Thx  Jim
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

Loopy 2 mini-review

After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch 4th generation I find that there are some features that put it above the rest of the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an instrument" world is concerned.

I've highlighted them here:


6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different lengths...!

After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and divide icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent loop to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop.   By using the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be set to any arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original loop.  This feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know.  By setting each of the loops to a different number of beats you can easily create complex polyrhythms,  and for creating long undulating ambient backgrounds is the next best thing to completely unsynched loops.

There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or disable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very important feature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get your hands back on your instrument  before it goes into record.

Global menus and individual submenus...

Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your finger down on a loop,  allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan position, as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in your session. This is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / iPhone, plus it streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are hidden until needed.

Stereo

This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positioned within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the empty loops.   The big news here is that when merging two tracks (by simply dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track retains the stereo placement and level of the two original source tracks, and you now have one stereo track where you previously had two mono tracks. The length of the merged track is automatically set to the common multiple of the two source tracks, so any polyrhythms will be retained.

Performance recording

A "session" is defined as the six loops and their settings. Sessions may be saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there is also the ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along with your performance over the top of them and save this to the "recordings" folder.

Latency

I've tested several iOS apps for latency  using the iRig interface (which uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the headphone jack.

and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency measurement of 930 samples (21ms).   It's not much of a problem in actual use except for highly precise rhythmic playing.

Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps:

Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, iOS 4.3.3

Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28.2ms)

Loopy2 930 samples (21ms)

Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms)

TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms)

Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (11.11ms)



-Chuck Zwicky

--

=2E..
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.  jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com


--

=2E..
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-902911485==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 27 21:54:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6664183466; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RaXFDJwR6m734NteYS801bVBDXQkPpTMqUkpqsnPbeE=; b=Of8Yv6gZoRXIAnjqdBtP2dMlaN88JyEvaAcxlczabY4CrFHSiS4tl3gmV0zYiNSgEK R1BtnBBwHdHNynVOiPNgk3uYdmUQp/TVXglSgahYzdOSNCZ8uUyiKKyhivf3nEwsnu+0 a+8ZfwvNA8tKNNrSmNHL6ivnozOnthbciBvLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sK0MlDFjXqMXM6LZlGjWUBdDMsi+8FLoOV7DwjeGc88hoBWN6cRF30abccjDh2XLS1 r88hjcNpJcIoeL55XsstmIl3PJxIUz+OOzkswrHvp7LcbPODWeFQvt5YMCOlXplFtYYK 5jgzOxanyHojH4K2ckM/t4fMA6XqwKGv8VS3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:54:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopy2 Mini Review.. From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f956b4471f204a6b89774 Resent-Message-ID: <0dxloD.A.v_D.BwPCOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:54:09 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f956b4471f204a6b89774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charles thanks that helps. I have looked at it and wondered though as you put it 'hijack the mic input' is dealing with the impedance factor but apparantly resolving well. My own iTouch which is 2nd gen has some corrossion or static build up that occasionally rears it's head with a thumbtack mic. I've wondered if using the line adapter if it would get above that but probably might still affect. I'm pretty wed to Mobius right now but have been thinking about the i as an option for either a controller and/or recording/looping poss. Re the controller Jeff has built OSC ability in to the newer release. Sidebar sorry but thanks re the input on the 'input' (grins), it's incouraging re what all is going on with this stuff. Jim On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Charles Zwicky wro= te: > ** > Jim, > > The iRig is fine, it is clean, and provides a high input impedance so t= he > guitar tone isn't compromised. It's no better or worse than any other > "hijack the mic input" device. I have compared several and despite vari= ous > claims about "feedback immunity", level and noise, they all measured ab= out > the same. Self noise is high on the mic input, but they all sound fine. > > I had the Apogee "Jam" which was considerably quieter, but the only app > that recognized it was the Peterson strobe tuner, so I sold it and bought > the iRig. > > -Chuck > > Charles thanks for a detailed analysis of this. How is the iRig btw? Is > it stable and clean or moderately clean? > > > > Thx Jim > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: > > > *Loopy 2 mini-review* > > > After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch 4th > generation I find that there are some features that put it above the rest= of > the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an instrument" worl= d > is concerned. > > > I've highlighted them here: > > > > *6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different > lengths...!* > > > After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and divide > icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent lo= op > to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop. By usi= ng > the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be set to any > arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original loop. This > feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know. By setting each of the > loops to a different number of beats you can easily create complex > polyrhythms, and for creating long undulating ambient backgrounds is the > next best thing to completely unsynched loops. > > > There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or > disable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very importa= nt > feature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get your hands bac= k > on your instrument before it goes into record. > > > *Global menus and individual submenus...* > > > Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your > finger down on a loop, allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan > position, as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in your > session. This is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / > iPhone, plus it streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are > hidden until needed. > > > *Stereo* > > > This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positione= d > within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the empt= y > loops. The big news here is that when merging two tracks (by simply > dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track retains the stereo > placement and level of the two original source tracks, and you now have o= ne > stereo track where you previously had two mono tracks. The length of the > merged track is automatically set to the common multiple of the two sourc= e > tracks, so any polyrhythms will be retained. > > > *Performance recording* > > > A "session" is defined as the six loops and their settings. Sessions may = be > saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there is also the > ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along with your > performance over the top of them and save this to the "recordings" folder= . > > > *Latency* > > > I've tested several iOS apps for latency using the iRig interface (which > uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the headphone > jack. > > > and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency measuremen= t > of 930 samples (21ms). It's not much of a problem in actual use except = for > highly precise rhythmic playing. > > > Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps: > > > Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, i= OS > 4.3.3 > > Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28.2ms) > > > Loopy2 930 samples (21ms) > > > Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms) > > > TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms) > > > Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (11.11ms) > > > > > -Chuck Zwicky > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > > > ** > > -- > > ** > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec53f956b4471f204a6b89774 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Charles thanks that helps.=A0 I have looked at it and wondered though = as you put it 'hijack the mic input' is dealing with the impedance = factor but apparantly resolving well.=A0 My own iTouch which is 2nd gen has= some corrossion or static build up that occasionally rears it's head w= ith a thumbtack mic.=A0 I've wondered if using the line adapter if it w= ould get above that but probably might still affect.=A0 I'm pretty wed = to Mobius right now but have been thinking about the i<world> as an o= ption for either a controller and/or recording/looping poss.=A0 Re the cont= roller Jeff has built OSC ability in to the newer release.=A0 Sidebar sorry= but thanks re the input on the 'input' (grins), it's incouragi= ng re what all is going on with this stuff.
=A0
Jim

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Charles Zwicky = <cazwicky@ea= rthlink.net> wrote:
Jim,

=A0 The iRig is fine, it is clean, and provides a high input impedance= so the guitar tone isn't compromised.=A0 It's no better or worse t= han any other "hijack the mic input" device.=A0 I=A0 have compare= d several and despite various claims about "feedback immunity", l= evel and noise,=A0=A0 they all measured about the same.=A0 Self noise is hi= gh on the mic input, but they all sound fine.

I had the Apogee "Jam" which was considerably quieter, but t= he only app that recognized it was the Peterson strobe tuner, so I sold it = and bought the iRig.

-Chuck

Charles thanks for a detailed analysis of this.= =A0 How is the iRig btw?=A0 Is it stable and clean or moderately clean?
=A0
Thx=A0 Jim
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Charles Zwicky &= lt;cazwicky@ear= thlink.net> wrote:

Loopy 2 mini-review

After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod t= ouch 4th generation I find that there are some features that put it above t= he rest of the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an in= strument" world is concerned.

I've highlighted them here:


6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be differ= ent lengths...!

After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and= divide icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequ= ent loop to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop.= =A0=A0 By using the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length = can be set to any arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the orig= inal loop.=A0 This feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know.=A0 By = setting each of the loops to a different number of beats you can easily cre= ate complex polyrhythms,=A0 and for creating long undulating ambient backgr= ounds is the next best thing to completely unsynched loops.

There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enab= le or disable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is = a very important feature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get= your hands back on your instrument=A0 before it goes into record.

Global menus and individual submenus...

Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holdi= ng your finger down on a loop,=A0 allowing you to adjust the Volume level, = Pan position, as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in yo= ur session. This is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod = / iPhone, plus it streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are h= idden until needed.

Stereo

This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be= positioned within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset fo= r the empty loops.=A0=A0 The big news here is that when merging two tracks = (by simply dragging on onto another) the resulting "merged" track= retains the stereo placement and level of the two original source tracks, = and you now have one stereo track where you previously had two mono tracks.= The length of the merged track is automatically set to the common multiple= of the two source tracks, so any polyrhythms will be retained.

Performance recording

A "session" is defined as the six loops and their set= tings. Sessions may be saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and = there is also the ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along w= ith your performance over the top of them and save this to the "record= ings" folder.

Latency

I've tested several iOS apps for latency=A0 using the iRig = interface (which uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on= the headphone jack.

and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency = measurement of 930 samples (21ms).=A0=A0 It's not much of a problem in = actual use except for highly precise rhythmic playing.

Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps:

Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k = sample rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, iOS 4.3.3

Everyday Looper 1244 samp= les (28.2ms)

Loopy2 930 samples (21ms)

Amplitube Fender Free, normal laten= cy mode 736 samples (16.69ms)

TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (1= 6.5ms)

Amplitube Fender Free low latency m= ode 490 samples (11.11ms)



-Chuck Zwicky

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--bcaec53f956b4471f204a6b89774-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 28 00:03:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2032B183466; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=pfPqjYToSTxdlYTxhfI2E+RGqXWJ99ZL/xgeawrwrxU=; b=uJ7r0Bfc885/rz0zHl893QW/uw6MMjSFoAVbSvOxVIHgNK9RpxdzBnaY1jXCVHvzEH kV+9b3P7YiccAjeUhpkg4NIRB1JLG9Kk1MxoXbWkdTd7FyGaP+GmQyh1Nw5nYlb09nkf 7GDDXMFVyViz9uDHhp1KtfLmlc1xirRNxtG6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=nJqChpwGNPFGaoAiCEKE0iMYhYSny7ySIYbm9i8th6kKoD2z2+doQY+HncyE7z3HJU hx9vncVyC2hT60dWwG2sA76zKpgwaBBKmuZUx4wJUylySg3NmHtbhj9MbQUg+vbqh0ix 4OOuEifsU6HbuqGTjtCzxzOLDFEwiKTLQUM8U= From: Phil Clevenger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: tUnE-yArDs on KCRW Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:03:07 -0700 Message-Id: <67A281CD-20E9-4B2B-AEE2-36C3FA79C4D7@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Some truly courageous music here, great looping, and possibly the most = badass ukelele riff I've ever heard :) http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=3Dz9-LaKIjATg Read about their vocalist / loopist in the New Yorker: = http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2011/05/02/110502crmu_music_= frerejones Best, Phil= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 28 01:21:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47169183466; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=F8L_og5jAAAA:8 a=Korp5edNPFUIys8IXFcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <67A281CD-20E9-4B2B-AEE2-36C3FA79C4D7@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: tUnE-yArDs on KCRW Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:21:21 -0700 References: <67A281CD-20E9-4B2B-AEE2-36C3FA79C4D7@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing Phil. Merrill Garbus is pretty terrific in my book. Cheers, Ted On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote: > Some truly courageous music here, great looping, and possibly the > most badass ukelele riff I've ever heard :) > > http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=z9-LaKIjATg > > Read about their vocalist / loopist in the New Yorker: > > http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2011/05/02/110502crmu_music_frerejones > > Best, > > Phil From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 28 08:02:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4BEC183466; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=d1RsmxEW+jsCg6eOeAk+NiVoynfnCIf2Ynl75H/+4r0=; b=lsC7eMI++5k9qjbcM81TMf1ja8DyzsFsXyJeTRL42pyNC6aE6TgtrUbVY7MYlG9uyC JtHd7qpy4Po46hFp2Ya6or/U5fSD6eMRcHS/eoClI/yeSEIA32Ie8CZEwGcegP0rJxlm wnSvwm6fsqbo61NYI6E0SpoRc+5IB7GBVvGk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=l8NfhAbh8YMoCU1R6zq2k45H36WFs39AzMMhpokCfW7vmRKCNGjubXyBqjkbxAOsKf cMBUILJqpIw5ntr2NfNYnrcUVdMuoGa3slLhseMEaubkqfeVPu6H4ey/u/ibNB0yXYLE KzEVsSb5o1yJOHnHnl5Jz9oIzcH90TILckJrk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:02:09 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Loop The Loop From: Samplehead To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517741064a9896d04a6c11558 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:02:11 +0000 (UTC) --001517741064a9896d04a6c11558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone heard of these guys? They're playing my hometown next month.... http://www.genepetersonlive.com/loop-the-loop/ --001517741064a9896d04a6c11558 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone heard of these guys? They're playing my hometown next month....

http://www.genepetersonlive.com/loop-the-loop/


--001517741064a9896d04a6c11558-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 28 08:03:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0AA4183477; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:To:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Date:Message-Id:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=2HsDUfrb69Yqn/lSUAxZTzi+2tpf3twzF3UCX4ruwrGjSmFLenyZVVugDzxI10wuWFl/NjmkTpHW4uAiENH56ee6kdTtybjnlMiJ2B1YsWnzvSNoWO5yq9N1G2TtI2hYrQA5UlaKh0sFsKcOlITIPMfAYhdXFIVOJdhURlQwz8w= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1309248180; bh=zrD6uGe1oXj2DF+X2B+fDrYf/Nf9ZwG3sMBK0Z0F1YU=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:To:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Date:Message-Id:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=T/1R+Qhzehaq2IoGYqCm384e/i4c/I5haHPgIPuh9J+/UUG55Scx3BjQezcXKu+rUyjJx28q6taAMOBOv9YEusSATBl1mG6AD3duzTDJxLpfdL1cG7JgCREE4BBcgHKK930IdejuoLNcP5phIGViqDYCcw50gzfSVv7+lRanDkU= X-Yahoo-SMTP: yRBEy4.swBCKSazU852c19FMfIqgzJ9luWs- X-YMail-OSG: NZbDm0AVM1k1OdNH_LvXyXNBy9Dw2vXSA53g1rJ3URVjTeJ ThyrS0mDapuq92AT8.A6LPPop.sRsBj3P5g_5rHlHQZDMt.eV2QXCK5i40Ti 0YmZTn7yKNJxDt7ZZo7h38VZdDIWD.9VOmjlbT1pqEHLlAGUDz1r67fg5ZOX lCmUaiHLIUK3dtifIQtXVJKQLItW2Px3Lj.NqkIQlFw8whoOJAaOmDmeNRaP ljYirQGpHenbj2RNUmhujFd1oaKGgZ7xW66qBMXMjFWJFELvE7fUqSzUXJTb 8efL6x6_sFIs1bqFkR9alkp_ptJNn5V_MlsCIf2elZSuckDqd4U5thFg2I7Q 0uq8s7jPyHRVzxuT.BCETRpebQpz55Q8iot98wpuEVdI7xVj_OhS5nqJHpWt v9Wsuv3PlxrhmxRR6jjfzL4Urv8Ta..Xeo_tmtBlT0FW.4iOvVyi64L62p94 qKXweMv1eya4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Subject: Re: Looping 50 Fugues with a 'Bass Choir' & an LP-1 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" From: Steve U Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8E401) X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_66855_AGrIjkQAASkLTgCyAwon+ir1h5k Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:02:55 -0700 Message-Id: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8E401) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Bill and Fabio thanks for listening and I'm super glad you dig-will keep the= list posted on official release with book a d all-for now they'll be stream= ing free here Www.soundcloud.com/clarified-birds/sets On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > Steve, I must have missed this when you first posted it, both lovely and r= eally impressive. > Nice work bro > Bill >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 28 08:38:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09D23183466; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Reyn Ouwehand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-230632389 Subject: Re: Loop The Loop Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:38:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <00AB7945-6D11-424A-B38C-0BA53B220DD4@reyn.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QbToZ-0008P0-PZ X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.899, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: <5vQHSB.A.6-C.NMZCOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:38:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-230632389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, they stole my concept/poster idea!! :-) lol On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Samplehead wrote: > Anyone heard of these guys? They're playing my hometown next month.... > > http://www.genepetersonlive.com/loop-the-loop/ > > --Apple-Mail-1-230632389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hey, they stole my concept/poster idea!! :-) lol

On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Samplehead wrote:

Anyone heard of these guys? They're playing my hometown next month....

http://www.genepetersonlive.com/loop-the-loop/



--Apple-Mail-1-230632389-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 28 08:58:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2800183466; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RoURoe3Kku3tvw36L8Lc8oSecs9YmGkpJuVD23F4grQ=; b=t414qgGo0b3H55YDberN/GT0YU+Fgu4pKSLoiroQx8b9v+Iuwn7A0ymCd1/r+KqOXE xsxhB74uIiU5pSJHEQq19wZzukCW3EEQIsFWrMO1syqgK6D1zXjMqb0tCZvDS5Vm9zPe SSFqbckD/5I0SWmmvkbk90QnJ3HgzCywi5NmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IKZu5JIqdZRMO9jYrLp8QgkXn5DmxgUsNhYBw2RyKLTLtmWJEFiTFgruZkI8Qd9pr6 mCGrIpU4G076F7n254Jymb+pwdLlWbeEiqvwYaST9bnIHZlpmmtWmytL0QuBtoQ+RoT2 9665ltRPRm6+ehVnoFmJmIZms7rCwOf7e4uMU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:58:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loop The Loop From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071d066facad404a6c1dd39 Resent-Message-ID: <43NjnB.A.ZRD.ieZCOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:58:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071d066facad404a6c1dd39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Really powerful ! Nice to see how much loop-based performances are appearing. Great visual impact. This prove how important is sharing "fun" with the audience (it makes me remind of Adrian Belew...) -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/6/28 Samplehead > Anyone heard of these guys? They're playing my hometown next month.... > > http://www.genepetersonlive.com/loop-the-loop/ > > > --20cf3071d066facad404a6c1dd39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Really powerful !
Nice to see how much loop-based performances are appearing.
Great visual impact. This prove how important is sharing "fun&quo= t; with the audience=A0(it makes me remind of Adrian Belew...)
=A0
2011/6/28 Samplehead <samplehead@gmail.com>
Anyone heard of these guys? They= 're playing my hometown next month....

http://www.genepeterson= live.com/loop-the-loop/



--20cf3071d066facad404a6c1dd39-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 28 10:08:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BEDB183474; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Loopy2 Mini Review.. References: <40FD3647-1492-42E2-9239-CA8E0EA7EB0D@gmail.com> <54F90B85-2844-43FC-845F-7687776AF9C1@atastypixel.com> <3C9D7A0B-A046-4B5E-B41D-002F2C3A4E00@reyn.net> From: Michael Tyson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-235991369 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:07:47 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <9U159C.A.09D.NgaCOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:08:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12-235991369 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's odd Reyn! It's definitely supposed to be listed on all stores. Are yo= u using the 'Buy' link from loopyapp.com? --=20 Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the formu= la. Now available: loopyapp.com Subscribe to our newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter e: michael@atastypixel.com skype/aim: mikerusselltyson twitter: MichaelTyson On 27 Jun 2011, at 23:02, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > I don't think I can buy it in the Dutch iTunes store.. :-( >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Reyn >=20 > www.reyn.net > www.reyn.net/studio >=20 > On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Loopy 2 mini-review >>=20 >> After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 app on my iPod touch 4th g= eneration I find that there are some features that put it above the rest of t= he available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping as an instrument" world is= concerned. >>=20 >> I've highlighted them here: >>=20 >>=20 >> 6 simultaneous overdub-capable loops that can each be different lengths..= .! >>=20 >> After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and divide ic= ons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent loop to= be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop. By using th= e Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be set to any arbit= rary number of beats longer or shorter than the original loop. This feature= is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know. By setting each of the loops to a= different number of beats you can easily create complex polyrhythms, and f= or creating long undulating ambient backgrounds is the next best thing to co= mpletely unsynched loops. >>=20 >> There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or disa= ble "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very important feat= ure, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get your hands back on yo= ur instrument before it goes into record. >>=20 >> Global menus and individual submenus... >>=20 >> Each of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your fi= nger down on a loop, allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan position,= as well as import and export audio to an from each loop in your session. Th= is is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / iPhone, plus i= t streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are hidden until neede= d. >>=20 >> Stereo >>=20 >> This is one of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positione= d within the stereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the empty= loops. The big news here is that when merging two tracks (by simply dragg= ing on onto another) the resulting "merged" track retains the stereo placeme= nt and level of the two original source tracks, and you now have one stereo t= rack where you previously had two mono tracks. The length of the merged trac= k is automatically set to the common multiple of the two source tracks, so a= ny polyrhythms will be retained. >>=20 >> Performance recording >>=20 >> A "session" is defined as the six loops and their settings. Sessions may b= e saved and recalled, or even duplicated at will, and there is also the abil= ity to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops along with your performance ov= er the top of them and save this to the "recordings" folder. >>=20 >> Latency >>=20 >> I've tested several iOS apps for latency using the iRig interface (which= uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the headphone ja= ck. >>=20 >> and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not exceptional, latency measuremen= t of 930 samples (21ms). It's not much of a problem in actual use except f= or highly precise rhythmic playing. >>=20 >> Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps: >>=20 >> Pass through Latency measured at 44.1k sample rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, i= OS 4.3.3 >>=20 >> Everyday Looper 1244 samples (28.2ms) >>=20 >> Loopy2 930 samples (21ms) >>=20 >> Amplitube Fender Free, normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms) >>=20 >> TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms) >>=20 >> Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (11.11ms) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -Chuck Zwicky >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >>=20 >> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >>=20 >> http://albumcredits.com/zmix >=20 --Apple-Mail-12-235991369 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
That's odd Reyn! It's definitely suppos= ed to be listed on all stores. Are you using the 'Buy' link from loopyapp.com?


-- 
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty Pixel: Delectab= le apps for iPhone and Mac

Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticat= ed, tactile new looper that reinvents the formula. Now available: loopyapp.com
Subscribe to our newsletter: http://atasty= pixel.com/newsletter

skype/aim: mikerusselltyson
twitt= er: MichaelTyson

On 27 Jun 2011, at 23:02, Reyn Ouwehand= <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:

= --Apple-Mail-12-235991369-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 28 14:44:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 692A4183466; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=n3ZyPHzuzDI4MEsf+ROmGyparcXscxWoFyS2daE1u9c=; b=VcxiAoEgby9/K81j2VWEfWs8hIXL0MkP+8ymnDsc4TmeJhHJYf1k086roIoupOzH0h 6H19Ipybp0dssAnDH04O7Q6so2jq7Jv9tCQFnWLd67yV7yi/ZPEVeNaCVu0bsIrFEePg B5bF2+niRmY3zGuOcWGktcVJIuxrsjztjDOhk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:44:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_=93Ableton_style=94_looper_for_the_iPhone_=2D=2D_Fre?= =?windows-1252?Q?e_Promotional_Copies?= From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151757714af9b8ad04a6c6b5dd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) --00151757714af9b8ad04a6c6b5dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This sounds great! I have a Motorola Atrix using Android, is it available for that as well? Thanks, Greg On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Michael Tyson wro= te: > Hi Looper's Delight members, > > > We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper > for the iPhone that combines power with simplicity. > > The guys over at iOS Recording sai= d > "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for the iPhone we=92ve seen to date." = And > fellow looper, Dub FX reckons =93Loopy is the onl= y > iPhone app I would use to show off with!=94 > > We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good use= , > and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a few free > promotional copies. > > *The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will receive a > free promotional copy of Loopy 2!** * > > > Thanks again and happy looping! > > * > -- > Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com > A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac > > Loopy 2: > A savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without others! Now available= . > > Subscribe to our newsletter > > e: michael@atastypixel.com > skype/aim: mikerusselltyson > twitter: MichaelTyson > * > > --=20 Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Frontier.com TheWeg@GMail.com --00151757714af9b8ad04a6c6b5dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
=A0=A0 This sounds great!=A0 I have a Motorola Atrix using Android, is= it available for that as well?
=A0
Thanks,
Greg

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Michael Tyson <= span dir=3D"ltr"><michael@ata= stypixel.com> wrote:
Hi Looper's Delight members,=A0


We've recently launched=A0Loopy 2=A0-- a live looper for the iPhone that = combines power with simplicity.=A0

The guys over at=A0iOS Recording=A0said &q= uot;Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for the iPhone we=92ve seen to date.&= quot;=A0And fellow looper,=A0Dub FX=A0reckons=A0=93Loopy is the only iPhone app I would use to show off= with!=94

We thought some of you would = be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good use, and we'd also like to say= thank you for your input with a few free promotional copies.=A0

The first 9 people to emai= l us at suppor= t@atastypixel.com will receive a free promotional copy of Loopy 2!<= b>=A0=A0


Thanks again and happy looping!=A0
--=A0
Michael=A0Tyson=A0|=A0atastypixel.com<= /a>
A Tast= y Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac

Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile n= ew looper app. Plays well without others! Now available.


<= /div>
skype/aim: mikerusselltyson
twitter:=A0MichaelTyson
<= /div>

=


--
TheWeg@GMail.com

--00151757714af9b8ad04a6c6b5dd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 29 16:21:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87740183474; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nqBEIUMGAtyppDAIcbNphf8RNG20SOweQ8okVi+mMkk=; b=kpYICofVpIfEHcoh6j2N7RDywud3DQQJTmgMNJVR1xFCUw8doeo49IckRX8XuFnGEr zFFGdnmOtvrVtIsQytnPcaF7o+KK13KGgFv14c3I8rvRCjyQ1th2JkWHsRLCackvkJRm g9UMBqm1w69H7ddCQPsE3/t1A7peDrliZ/46k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:21:34 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: iV1AWwgl6GGIbHIAbe-TEopsxuE Message-ID: Subject: thoughts From: daniel To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52e60458db94204a6dc2d1b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:21:36 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52e60458db94204a6dc2d1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey y'all, I'm heading down to Austin, TX at the end of July to visit my brother and was hoping to setup a show while I'm down there. I'll be in town the 27th - 31st. Anyone in the area wanna set-up a show with me? I'm based in Boston, so my knowledge of Austin is limited (pretty much to nothing). Also, this Friday I'm officially releasing a hard copy of my album, NOops. It will be a very, very limited single pressing release of less than 50! Each album features unique-to-that-cop hand drawn art and will be numbered. If you'd like to purchase a copy, they will be available from my website: www.iamdanielharris.com. For domestic (USA) purchases, $12 covers the entire order (album + shipping). Orders outside the continental USA will cost $15 total. love daniel www.iamdanielharris.com --bcaec52e60458db94204a6dc2d1b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey y'all,

I'm heading down to Austin, TX at the end of Jul= y to visit my brother and was hoping to setup a show while I'm down the= re. I'll be in town the 27th - 31st. Anyone in the area wanna set-up a = show with me? I'm based in Boston, so my knowledge of Austin is limited= (pretty much to nothing).

Also, this Friday I'm officially releasing a hard copy of my album,= NOops. It will be a very, very limited single pressing release of less tha= n 50! Each album features unique-to-that-cop hand drawn art and will be num= bered. If you'd like to purchase a copy, they will be available from my= website: www.iamdanielharris.co= m. For domestic (USA) purchases, $12 covers the entire order (album + s= hipping). Orders outside the continental USA will cost $15 total.


love
daniel
www.i= amdanielharris.com


--bcaec52e60458db94204a6dc2d1b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 04:18:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59789183477; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:18:07 -0400 Subject: LP2? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Wondering if anyone has heard any recent news on this pedal. Andre http://islandfunk.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 05:23:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A093183478; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=N9Bo40W/1bQcC+TakNdGivnN4FUR0p3oLpgiIJnWu2Y=; b=PItnZa8U7Besdjf/Y0Oy1UEeIc/ldk9Y64yQ4+Xkx8tnL3OQGVNjOt5kEiwOtLnrFy QCAFZdI0XuaXCPUbV8cSBnfi73MhOKvtOjxj4uSG7+W4v9fJUpkmPd+mwIvJe6BCFyBS DXaXDkHnwVga5duz0IirwigNXN7fGY1A3t/DY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:23:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65a099c5fbaea04a6e71884 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:23:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65a099c5fbaea04a6e71884 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last I heard, they were absolutely definitely going to ship to the pre-orde= r customers in April or May. Their website has changed slightly. Back in January, they were offering pre-orders, then I think pre-orders maxed out and the pre-order form was turned off. Now I see that the website is accepting orders again. (Not pre-orders!) Maybe that means he's actually ready to ship? The manufacturer is one person, and life's thrown some things at him in the last few months. Still, I pre-ordered back in January and I'll be pretty upset if it doesn't arrive by my August tour. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" wr= ote: > Hi, > > Wondering if anyone has heard any recent news on this pedal. > > Andre > > > http://islandfunk.com > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa > > --0016e65a099c5fbaea04a6e71884 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last I heard, they were absolutely definitely going to ship to the pre-orde= r customers in April or May.

Their website has changed slightly. Ba= ck in January, they were offering pre-orders, then I think pre-orders maxed= out and the pre-order form was turned off. Now I see that the website is a= ccepting orders again. (Not pre-orders!) Maybe that means he's actually= ready to ship?

The manufacturer is one person, and life's thrown some things at hi= m in the last few months. Still, I pre-ordered back in January and I'll= be pretty upset if it doesn't arrive by my August tour.


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.pod= omatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" <andre@andredonawa= .com> wrote:
Hi,

Wondering if anyone has heard any recent news on this pedal.

Andre


http://islandfunk.com
http://www.andredo= nawa.com
http:= //www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa





--0016e65a099c5fbaea04a6e71884-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 05:26:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D728183477; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GS9wC8fXHJMp+RCRCybVqec99ZNh+kx7H+oaZB/6VM8=; b=B+BCR38ETQ3L3R/2GdlFrVF4zlBN+2tXwK6+/hnunKL6hMskSfXXS7TwoAa7lHw3jn LU2H1WD5EDnWH7bngSHBBI4giCmnI9/kBglTwj5Ox9OnKSMQYN1y6biQshrn54/yqOEy XIUV/FsB1WJkIVhQsu/dPXDtAQzEaspXZExXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:26:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00235445bae02ce6f404a6e726f3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:26:57 +0000 (UTC) --00235445bae02ce6f404a6e726f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oops - the site *does* say Pre-Orders again now. On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Matt Davignon wro= te: > Last I heard, they were absolutely definitely going to ship to the > pre-order customers in April or May. > > Their website has changed slightly. Back in January, they were offering > pre-orders, then I think pre-orders maxed out and the pre-order form was > turned off. Now I see that the website is accepting orders again. (Not > pre-orders!) Maybe that means he's actually ready to ship? > > The manufacturer is one person, and life's thrown some things at him in t= he > last few months. Still, I pre-ordered back in January and I'll be pretty > upset if it doesn't arrive by my August tour. > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" = wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Wondering if anyone has heard any recent news on this pedal. >> >> Andre >> >> >> http://islandfunk.com >> http://www.andredonawa.com >> http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa >> >> > > > > --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --00235445bae02ce6f404a6e726f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oops - the site *does* say Pre-Orders again now.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Matt Davignon = <mattdavignon@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
Last I heard, the= y were absolutely definitely going to ship to the pre-order customers in Ap= ril or May.

Their website has changed slightly. Back in January, they were offering= pre-orders, then I think pre-orders maxed out and the pre-order form was t= urned off. Now I see that the website is accepting orders again. (Not pre-o= rders!) Maybe that means he's actually ready to ship?

The manufacturer is one person, and life's thrown some things at hi= m in the last few months. Still, I pre-ordered back in January and I'll= be pretty upset if it doesn't arrive by my August tour.


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.pod= omatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at = 9:18 PM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" <andre@andredonawa.com> wrote:
Hi,

Wondering if anyone has heard any recent news on this pedal.

Andre


http://islandfunk.com
http://www.andredo= nawa.com
http:= //www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa








--
Matt Davign= on
mattdavig= non@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/riboso= mematt
--00235445bae02ce6f404a6e726f3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 09:08:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A3E0183486; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0C3D23.9080506@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:08:51 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Query Mac purchase Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I have a client who is considering putting together a midi recording setup using a Mac computer. He's going to use VSTi instruments with a keyboard almost exclusively and very little real time audio. He wondered whether a brand new Mac Mini or a Macbook would do the trick or whether he should fork out the extra dough and get a Macbook Pro. My MBP is over 4 years old now so I can't really advise him. Would you mind letting me know what you guys know about such a purchase? Thanks a lot, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 09:16:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18BCA18347A; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0C3EFF.60205@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:16:47 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= CC: Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: LP2? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <05GnvB.A.ZwE.G8DDOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:16:54 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, "André Donawa" wrote: > Hi, > > Wondering if anyone has heard any recent news on this pedal. > > Andre > > > http://islandfunk.com > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa We've had several setbacks that have forced delay in it's release but Bob assures me that we are very, very close. I'm thinking within a month. Keep your fingers crossed, yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 09:34:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ED52183479; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SQ4u9/p4fYqjkwO9oepbdA23faLyy9/MsiIQtA8WXKA=; b=U1i5en80AUjxRtIHGgI2K6ydgTa0nEOF+hehTs/zb4IUqdbSuevw8laKDJ10QD8g57 d3oraJkoSUZLaPHJ2vm4rA6DbXfnY8nNfO3SNm0DVOmeYxsMWKW3NHYgmRyesjnWYGYy tN+cycw2xfAhG8XfF68R01YzWACccNoijNwrE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E0C3D23.9080506@cruzio.com> References: <4E0C3D23.9080506@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:34:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Query Mac purchase From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:34:54 +0000 (UTC) For "MIDI recording" he won't need a lot of computing power at all and can go with the least expensive "last year's model" or refurbed machine. The bigger machines are a lot less expensive than laptops. If he is going to be mixing music too and want to use lots of virtual instruments (software synths/sampler) he will need as much processing power he can get. The new Imac has proven to be exceptionally powerful, especially the model with the i7 processor. It has been the "most bang for the buck" box for a while now. If looking at a MBP there are two ways to go. The 13" screen model that has a dual core i7 is one alternative. It's "overdrive" (whatever that means in tech spec's) kicks in at high CPU load and makes this laptop powerful with software that can not treat the two cores as two processors. If running software that can treat multiple cores as if they were in fact parallel processors the bigger MBP with a four core i7 gives almost three times as much muscles (we measured this with mixing in Logic and the "x3" is related to the previous MBP model) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have a client who is considering putting together a midi recording > setup using a Mac computer. > > He's going to use VSTi instruments with a keyboard almost exclusively and > very little real time audio. > > He wondered whether a brand new Mac Mini or a Macbook would do the trick > or whether he should fork out the extra dough and get a Macbook Pro. > > My MBP is over 4 years old now so I can't really advise him. > > Would you mind letting me know what you guys know about such a purchase? > > Thanks a lot, > > Rick Walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 15:19:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAE1718347A; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0C93C7.3050305@biink.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:18:31 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: some video Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2l4IGD.A.b3.qPJDOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:19:06 +0000 (UTC) at last, I have some video on utube. David Beardsley, microtonal guitar at Pianos, NYC 3-27-11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqUH3doD05U listen to all three parts, it changes. -- * David Beardsley * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 15:43:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB950183486; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=anmvIM29tEEYtydGB+gbVeySbRpA/caCAUFyik5hc2I=; b=K/RFJYP7quT2xKOcY/KreRgELxEKC1hEkxTpEHTwWkvZPte4psUPXviRb8Is5MQCQ9 iSlO/zXccuX/DYV4XXURV00xOWyqsAECxxGCE+KAgDvA4L0lIU1jcPpdg8S8xdjz/c2Z KsqRH5n4bMYM3FKrOQLNoYfhYDhbLijr6jA2A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E0C3EFF.60205@cruzio.com> References: <4E0C3EFF.60205@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:43:00 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2? From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b13657fc42304a6efc17c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:43:01 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b13657fc42304a6efc17c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fingers crossed, Looking forward to receiving this unit! Hope everyone is having a great summer! weg On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Wondering if anyone has heard any recent news on this pedal. >> >> Andre >> >> >> http://islandfunk.com >> http://www.andredonawa.com >> http://www.youtube.com/user/**AndreDonawa >> > We've had several setbacks that have forced delay in it's release but > Bob assures me that we are very, very close. > I'm thinking within a month. > > Keep your fingers crossed, > > yours, Rick > > --=20 Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Frontier.com TheWeg@GMail.com --bcaec51b13657fc42304a6efc17c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fingers crossed, Looking forward to receiving this unit!=A0 Hope every= one is having a great summer!
=A0
weg

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.c= om> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" wrote:
Hi,

Wondering if anyone h= as heard any recent news on this pedal.

Andre


http://islandfunk.com
http://www.andred= onawa.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa
We've had several setbacks that have forced delay in it'= ;s release but
Bob assures me that we are very, very close.
I'm t= hinking within a month.

Keep your fingers crossed,

yours, =A0= Rick




--
TheWeg@GMail.com

--bcaec51b13657fc42304a6efc17c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 15:44:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B95F183478; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-06-30_07:2011-06-30,2011-06-30,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106300089 Subject: Re: OT Query Mac purchase From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4E0C3D23.9080506@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:44:23 -0700 Message-id: <2A503E61-F2ED-44A0-8938-FF84A8D2BD7B@mac.com> References: <4E0C3D23.9080506@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:44:26 +0000 (UTC) IF its all about running virtual instruments, he needs a fast and powerful machine. I recommend the i7 processors on the iMacs or MBPs. If he is only recording midi data and spitting back out to external sound modules, then a trailing edge machine would suffice. Daniel On Jun 30, 2011, at 2:08 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have a client who is considering putting together a midi recording > setup using a Mac computer. > > He's going to use VSTi instruments with a keyboard almost exclusively and very little real time audio. > > He wondered whether a brand new Mac Mini or a Macbook would do the trick > or whether he should fork out the extra dough and get a Macbook Pro. > > My MBP is over 4 years old now so I can't really advise him. > > Would you mind letting me know what you guys know about such a purchase? > > Thanks a lot, > > Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 18:47:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5671183477; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8HANfDDE4yaEvb/2dsb2JhbABSmGuOb6lXnxyGMQSHQI9li1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,453,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="134503630" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.75.219 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: FS: 1963 AC30 and H8000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:52:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:47:42 +0000 (UTC) This probably isn't the best place to post this FS ad, but, hey, who knows...lots of guitar players here, and plenty of guys and gals who love fx. I've got a 1963 (non top boost) Vox AC30 for sale, if anyone is interested. I'm also pondering selling my Eventide H8000. I'll happily provide details off list, if anyone is interested. Thanks for the space. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 19:01:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F615183479; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: FS: 1963 AC30 and H8000 References: From: richard sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <71AF9974-692B-46A4-9A7D-9CCAD2FAEF30@glasswing.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:02:21 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: <83RPN.A.tNE.1fMDOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:01:09 +0000 (UTC) I'm interested in details! Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > This probably isn't the best place to post this FS ad, but, hey, who knows= ...lots of guitar players here, and plenty of guys and gals who love fx. >=20 > I've got a 1963 (non top boost) Vox AC30 for sale, if anyone is interested= . I'm also pondering selling my Eventide H8000. I'll happily provide details= off list, if anyone is interested. >=20 > Thanks for the space. >=20 > Jeff >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 19:27:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABEA218347A; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_=E2=80=9CAbleton_style=E2=80=9D_looper_for_the_iPh?= =?utf-8?Q?one_--_Free_Promotional_Copies?= References: From: Michael Tyson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-442355125 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <869A4C7D-6514-4F81-B6B9-D103F2F152E4@atastypixel.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:27:11 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:27:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-442355125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Greg, Nope, iOS only I'm afraid. Cheers, Michael --=20 Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the formu= la. Now available: loopyapp.com Subscribe to our newsletter: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter e: michael@atastypixel.com skype/aim: mikerusselltyson twitter: MichaelTyson On 28 Jun 2011, at 16:44, Thomas Wegmann wrote: > Hi, > This sounds great! I have a Motorola Atrix using Android, is it availa= ble for that as well? > =20 > Thanks, > Greg >=20 > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Michael Tyson w= rote: > Hi Looper's Delight members,=20 >=20 >=20 > We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that combi= nes power with simplicity.=20 >=20 > The guys over at iOS Recording said "Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for= the iPhone we=E2=80=99ve seen to date." And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons =E2= =80=9CLoopy is the only iPhone app I would use to show off with!=E2=80=9D >=20 > We thought some of you would be interested in putting Loopy 2 to good use,= and we'd also like to say thank you for your input with a few free promotio= nal copies.=20 >=20 > The first 9 people to email us at support@atastypixel.com will receive a f= ree promotional copy of Loopy 2! =20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks again and happy looping!=20 >=20 > --=20 > Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com > A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac >=20 > Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new looper app. Plays well without others! Now a= vailable. >=20 > Subscribe to our newsletter >=20 > e: michael@atastypixel.com > skype/aim: mikerusselltyson > twitter: MichaelTyson >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Greg Wegmann >=20 > TheWeg@Frontier.com > TheWeg@GMail.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-442355125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hi Greg,

Nope,= iOS only I'm afraid.

Cheers,
Michael
=

-- 
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com=
A Tasty Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac

<= /div>Loopy 2: A savvy, sophisticated, tactile new looper that reinvents the f= ormula. Now available: loopyapp.com

Subscribe to our newslett= er: http://atastypixel.com/newsletter

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skype/aim:= mikerusselltyson
twitter: MichaelTyson

On 28 J= un 2011, at 16:44, Thomas Wegmann <th= eweg@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
   This sounds great!  I have a Motorola Atrix using And= roid, is it available for that as well?
 
Thanks,
Greg

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Michael Tyson <michael@atastypixel.com> wro= te:
Hi Looper's Delight members, 


We've recently launched Loopy 2 -- a live looper for the iPhone that c= ombines power with simplicity. 

The guys over at iOS Recording said "= Loopy 2 is by far the best looper for the iPhone we=E2=80=99ve seen to date.= " And fellow looper, Dub FX reckons =E2=80=9CLoopy is the only iPhone app I would use t= o show off with!=E2=80=9D

We thought some of you would b= e interested in putting Loopy 2 to good use, and we'd also like to say thank= you for your input with a few free promotional copies. 

The first 9 people to email= us at support@atastypixel.com will receiv= e a free promotional copy of Loopy 2!  


Thanks again and happy looping! 
=
=
=
= -- 
Michael Tyson | atastypixel.com
A Tasty= Pixel: Delectable apps for iPhone and Mac

Loopy 2: A savvy, tactile new lo= oper app. Plays well without others! Now available.


skype/aim: mikerusselltyson
twitter: MichaelTyson
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= --Apple-Mail-1-442355125-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 19:43:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9505C183479; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GI9rw4/JcMaDdL9dDRmqZvZyN97jiKYdCfQ1z4r9EfM=; b=WZ9gnbFaxt9AaWCCOlCpLf1XBWrVD/JA/8YGH26+3iyvBJqf/eHHkX28UiJOLgpJL7 jRXvwFzXUq/qMZT5uvoRE74uSWY2gDtShXP2Ejs9Nn+AtVbJEOkHMuWDe3wREO+ZvwEw l9rwxodWwDRkUWyKr1yopaqaKpKlYSwmm0Gc0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5F6D7DD8-EB19-41F6-94B9-26575191D972@baymoon.com> References: <5F6D7DD8-EB19-41F6-94B9-26575191D972@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:43:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Dear all, We now have 5 beta test kits available for pre-order at reduced price for users with Graphtech pick-up systems. First come, first serve. Please respond if interested. More info: http://bit.ly/juaInw Ricky http://rickygraham.com On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:31 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > I found this on bay area Craigs List, I haven't been following this threa= d > too =A0closely but isn't this what you all are thinking about? > =A0Bill > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/msg/2183239539.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 19:43:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68505183479; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bUxkBEmyan0XrwhUZ5+71RFlhZ9v8XrJ58oQgb2zLJE=; b=urVCGEUTE5IN4VDFdxXaYxMCmPmdcmr4qLAXDkFaup1ysVCdm5teBy/eQ+Bp3DGX/L stAa3ZqK657rRby8rOs2l2ZXv2M2tS0eRWgHIOr//mVMZnwo5wW+5TFDYIh+cJ4PuV0O qRWafsoQ7RPiDjTlm+0Ek39Vlo3ToRltO66u4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <47696838-AD28-431B-A374-6DCBBDBAD6C3@baymoon.com> <3726754039257363648@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:43:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Music (+ Granular Looping) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:43:48 +0000 (UTC) OK. First set of kits now available! :-) We now have 5 beta test kits available for pre-order at reduced price for users with Graphtech pick-up systems. First come, first serve. Please respond if interested. More info: http://bit.ly/juaInw Ricky http://rickygraham.com On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > @Mark - Any summation is quite simple. How you wire your audio output > is entirely up to you. > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, mark francombe > wrote: >> Count me in on one of the kits Ricky!!! Looks amazing.. I wonder how >> simple it would be to sum various combinations of strings? >> Specifically 1-3-2 or 2-2-2... 6 outs i could use a mixer with, and >> would want, however a 2 or 3 channel guitar signal would be a bit >> simpler...? >> >> Mark >> >> Sent from my (advertisement removed) >> >> On 21 Jun 2011, at 11:06, Ricky Graham wrot= e: >> >>> @Jim Thanks! >>> >>> @Bill =A0We're developing affordable kits at the moment: >>> http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011 >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jim Goodin = wrote: >>>> Ricky lovely textures, much like the waters between us all in this glo= bal >>>> community. =A0Thinking everything from Roger Waters to Tears to Fears = at >>>> times. =A0Like the ebb/flow of it all. =A0Jim >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Ricky Graham >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> @Louie Thanks Bro! :) >>>>> >>>>> @William - It's fitted. I'm going to test it out with the break out >>>>> box kit this weekend. I'll let you know how it sounds. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Ricky >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, William Walker >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> beautiful and soothing thanks Ricky, did you put the synth pickup on >>>>>> yet? >>>>>> =A0Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Good= in & >>>> Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds >>>> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >>>> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >>>> >>>> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >>>> >>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 20:22:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0B0F183479; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:22:28 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6ac14d36-21ce-4b30-9550-d9789c009152_" X-Originating-IP: [70.3.132.6] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2011 20:17:27.0178 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB128EA0:01CC3762] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:22:28 +0000 (UTC) --_6ac14d36-21ce-4b30-9550-d9789c009152_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend and if = you think this video should be heard=2C please help me by sharing it with y= our friends & family. www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpzRNFRBTW_w Enjoy. The Wandering Madman=20 = --_6ac14d36-21ce-4b30-9550-d9789c009152_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= --_6ac14d36-21ce-4b30-9550-d9789c009152_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 20:26:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC332183473; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0CDBE6.8090805@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:26:14 +0100 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Draper Subject: Gig spam update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1388 [1516/3735] X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Well, ok, a bit of a reminder (&heads up for those who didn't get it first time round....) but also a MySpace update..... http:/uk.myspace.com/davedrapermusic will in fact get you to some tracks of mine, from 1995 to the present, including excerpts from two tracks on the new CD by myself & Ntshuks Bonga, 'Snow In November', which is officially released on Tuesday 5th July at.... The Others 6-8 Manor Road Stoke Newington London N16 5SA featuring: *Dave Draper*: guitar/ looping/live sampling/electronic sleight of hand (?) *Ntshuks Bonga*: alto & soprano saxophones Support from Barrel: *Alison Blunt*: violin *Hannah Marshall*: cello *Ivor Kallin*: violin/viola http://www.ntshuksbonga.com http://www.myspace.com/ntshuksbonga http://www.myspace.com/barrelling http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=7164805854054756914&q=the+others+stoke+newington&hl=en&ved=0CBEQ-gswAA&sa=X&ei=3HP4TZt-yoaPB-Hu8NMD http://www.theothers.uk.com If you never want to hear news of this sort again from me, please reply with the word 'UNSUBSCRIBE' in the subject, & you will be pestered no more. Promise. regards Dave Draper ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3735 - Release Date: 06/30/11 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 20:30:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85706183479; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <4E0C93C7.3050305@biink.com> Subject: RE: some video Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:30:09 +0200 Message-ID: <72FE1E1734BD4B7A85BCCE8EB59B7547@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4E0C93C7.3050305@biink.com> Thread-Index: Acw3W9Rbl1eNYzZoQgClmi3lPqg2LAACJmYQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: <0fwWSD.A.5-F.YzNDOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:30:16 +0000 (UTC) > listen to all three parts, it changes. lol :) great drones David! -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 20:38:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F362183479; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LxhqoUvd9uJJ5+AIg8+Po3xl02DmTLClTrlbeoatmTk=; b=dr1MUegzJ60zk1yXxo6iE/7p63Qc4K7hKAxvrQkq8uhA4sgVtMzGbZDLiQCc/dlz84 F3V2J9ZQn4DZ0HpaEg/WDBxT7LXqGgnrJxIHgWdcG5n6R0K2NDoRnA0ZuYI7e2NLWT5q vnBE1K3MMP81QIrtpLc7+SOBrUvbStlx9zs0Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:38:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Not bad. Quite a bit awesome actually. Enjoyed. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:17 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend and if > you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it with your > friends & family. > > www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman > or > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzRNFRBTW_w > > Enjoy. > > > The Wandering Madman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 22:29:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5279183477; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:29:16 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.165.166 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE058C47B33DF5_E18_8BE9E_webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33912-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE058C47AC19D2-E18-3AE3C@webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:29:29 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CE058C47B33DF5_E18_8BE9E_webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: FRO DIDDLY To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:17 pm Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend and if= you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it with= your friends & family. www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpzRNFRBTW_w Enjoy. The Wandering Madman=20 =20 =3D =20 ----------MB_8CE058C47B33DF5_E18_8BE9E_webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" FRO= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:17 pm
Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman<= br>
Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend= and if you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it= with your friends & family.



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----------MB_8CE058C47B33DF5_E18_8BE9E_webmail-d156.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 22:45:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E092D18347A; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: fest??????????? Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:44:51 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.165.166 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE058E7560C35F_15D8_1269B_webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33912-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:45:08 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CE058E7560C35F_15D8_1269B_webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" mentioned this this morn on FB that i have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. either= aug 6th or sept third..... the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from the= incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm, i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole block= of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches, ta= sty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is any= interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my #1= son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked in and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUCK WAS THA= T?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the MOUNT! =20 ----------MB_8CE058E7560C35F_15D8_1269B_webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" men= tioned this this morn on FB that i  have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. eith= er aug 6th or sept third.....

the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street fro= m the incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm,

i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole= block of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest

in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couche= s, tasty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk

to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is= any interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT

for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my= #1 son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked= in

and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUCK WA= S THAT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the MOUNT!<= /div>
----------MB_8CE058E7560C35F_15D8_1269B_webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 23:24:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC8F7183477; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fxTQbXZE71gP/wR8DzV+YwISvFA6rYY2oxsm8IUjD1A=; b=isSztYL91Z+wnLszE740ObLaLbPc11kdZ8xYa8K7Z1cePVB1IWuWTcVacfY6cjxKbP kw5u5R/5DEuuAxSJG1PB8hmADCGDrHfpLy17QfGoBvc6/Gk1ac0K4IdGKb/K1tWQ5di4 qDsxnTknTWcdc9bvhCvrU0iHwi3v1OQZP+G5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:24:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fest??????????? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a30db90a8904a6f6339c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec548a30db90a8904a6f6339c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOw Michael, the lights are on! excellent. Moon and planets whole 9 yards so yes as we've talked for 2 years or more an East Coast potential fest if born. Right now I would say yeah I'd like to join. Let me see about my logistics getting over there but would love to do it. J On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:44 PM, michael klobuchar wrote= : > mentioned this this morn on FB that i have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. eithe= r > aug 6th or sept third..... > > the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from th= e > incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm, > > i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole block > of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest > > in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches, > tasty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk > > to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is any > interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT > > for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my #1 > son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked in > > and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUCK WAS > THAT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the MOUNT! > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec548a30db90a8904a6f6339c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WOw Michael, the lights are on! excellent.=A0 Moon and planets whole 9= yards so yes as we've talked for 2 years or more an East Coast potenti= al fest if born.=A0 Right now I would say yeah I'd like to join.=A0 Let= me see about my logistics getting over there but would love to do it.
=A0
J

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:44 PM, michael klobuch= ar <nemoguitt@aol= .com> wrote:
mentioned this this morn on FB that = i =A0have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. either aug 6th or sept third.....=20

the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from= the incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm,

i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole bl= ock of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest

in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches= , tasty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk

to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is = any interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT

for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my = #1 son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked in=

and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUC= K WAS THAT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the= MOUNT!



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz record= ing by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this= CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec548a30db90a8904a6f6339c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 23:28:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0656A183475; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0D0678.3000008@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:27:52 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:28:00 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Rain Falls in a Different Way" by Radio Massacre International, on Northern Echo. Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jun Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 23:45:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B67A1183474; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lJtYkB2e9CaoZ+Ab2x2sbWZlEAxc3jecE6O9MLvJU60=; b=dwxV+0IPdHvCX9htzGVY1MgBFOSmsbEkdxQXz7oypmUruW0r5kl1drlSl+HyUvVws9 0WyQLFaYDujRJYTSdcS7ktT1ft0m0gLt5U1pXVi78PkFg4QjPFartwlIvvBaDamdbeUS 9RpdgHV2DPrHCzQUfCUnp2GJ2pKsH3RI/Qne4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:45:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fest??????????? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65512d26c199804a6f67dee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:45:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65512d26c199804a6f67dee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dammit Michael I may just have to take you up on that :) I would consider i= t a public service to save the city from that horrible fate you spoke of, lol= ! peace bro', J On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > WOw Michael, the lights are on! excellent. Moon and planets whole 9 yard= s > so yes as we've talked for 2 years or more an East Coast potential fest i= f > born. Right now I would say yeah I'd like to join. Let me see about my > logistics getting over there but would love to do it. > > J > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:44 PM, michael klobuchar wro= te: > >> mentioned this this morn on FB that i have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. eith= er >> aug 6th or sept third..... >> >> the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from t= he >> incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm, >> >> i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole bloc= k >> of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest >> >> in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches, >> tasty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk >> >> to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is an= y >> interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT >> >> for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my #1 >> son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked in >> >> and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUCK WAS >> THAT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the MOUNT! >> >> >> >> > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --0016e65512d26c199804a6f67dee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dammit Michael I may just have to take you up on that :) I would consider i= t a public service to save the city from that horrible fate you spoke of, l= ol!

peace bro',

J

On Th= u, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote= :
WOw Michael,= the lights are on! excellent.=A0 Moon and planets whole 9 yards so yes as = we've talked for 2 years or more an East Coast potential fest if born.= =A0 Right now I would say yeah I'd like to join.=A0 Let me see about my= logistics getting over there but would love to do it.
=A0
J

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:44 PM, michael klobuch= ar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
mentioned this this m= orn on FB that i =A0have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. either aug 6th or sept thi= rd.....=20

the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from= the incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm,

i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole bl= ock of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest

in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches= , tasty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk

to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is = any interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT

for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my = #1 son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked in=

and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUC= K WAS THAT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the= MOUNT!



=



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a ne= w World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<= br> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthor= n.bandcamp.com.

wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com

--0016e65512d26c199804a6f67dee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 30 23:59:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2352183473; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VDdalHDFWsmT8F6c6jzwo5+LHenjZFAXXnFkvtO++2k=; b=GvwiDXy1hBemKuLK3UuVC96ryGEoqUa11sShWAf2wIq8kCWD4Xa0Jijsy/318aIdoY q6wcQgTB66RqJ0A42lLGt4cu0VUrxqgjyr2QL2g+szCFoKYacQBZeKSOE+fjijr5hA5n rhQcLXNdSJK4AwkKBKH5Ga9vtojuHJT8+JPLg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:59:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fest??????????? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec501666d24c11904a6f6b0ce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:59:15 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec501666d24c11904a6f6b0ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff do it! that would be 3 of us. Chk JB, fairly cheap or bus it. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Dammit Michael I may just have to take you up on that :) I would consider > it a public service to save the city from that horrible fate you spoke of= , > lol! > > peace bro', > > J > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jim Goodin wro= te: > >> WOw Michael, the lights are on! excellent. Moon and planets whole 9 yar= ds >> so yes as we've talked for 2 years or more an East Coast potential fest = if >> born. Right now I would say yeah I'd like to join. Let me see about my >> logistics getting over there but would love to do it. >> >> J >> >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:44 PM, michael klobuchar wr= ote: >> >>> mentioned this this morn on FB that i have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. >>> either aug 6th or sept third..... >>> >>> the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from >>> the incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm, >>> >>> i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole blo= ck >>> of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest >>> >>> in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches, >>> tasty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk >>> >>> to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is a= ny >>> interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT >>> >>> for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my #= 1 >>> son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked i= n >>> >>> and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUCK WAS >>> THAT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the MOUNT! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim >> Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec501666d24c11904a6f6b0ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff do it! that would be 3 of us.=A0 Chk JB, fairly cheap or bus it.
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com= > wrote:
Dammit Michael I may just have t= o take you up on that :) I would consider it a public service to save the c= ity from that horrible fate you spoke of, lol!

peace bro',

J=20


On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
WOw Michael, the lights are on! excellent.=A0 Moon and planets whole 9= yards so yes as we've talked for 2 years or more an East Coast potenti= al fest if born.=A0 Right now I would say yeah I'd like to join.=A0 Let= me see about my logistics getting over there but would love to do it.
=A0
J

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:44 PM, michael klobuch= ar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
mentioned this this morn= on FB that i =A0have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. either aug 6th or sept third.= ....=20

the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from= the incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm,

i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole bl= ock of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest

in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches= , tasty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk

to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is = any interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT

for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my = #1 son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked in=

and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUC= K WAS THAT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the= MOUNT!






--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a ne= w World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<= br> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthor= n.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com




--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz= recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale = of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com= .

wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec501666d24c11904a6f6b0ce--

=
Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.net
On Jun 27, 2011, a= t 10:04 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote:


Loopy 2 mini-review

After spending a bit more time with the Loopy2 ap= p on my iPod touch 4th generation I find that there are some features that p= ut it above the rest of the available iOS loopers in terms of the "Looping a= s an instrument" world is concerned.

I've highlight= ed them here:


6 simultaneous over= dub-capable loops that can each be different lengths...!

<= /div>
After recording your initial loop, you can use the multiply and di= vide icons at the bottom of the screen to make the length of any subsequent l= oop to be an even multiple (or fraction) of the first recorded loop. &n= bsp; By using the Plus and Minus icons, any subsequent loop's length can be s= et to any arbitrary number of beats longer or shorter than the original loop= .  This feature is unique to the Loopy2 as far as I know.  By sett= ing each of the loops to a different number of beats you can easily create c= omplex polyrhythms,  and for creating long undulating ambient backgroun= ds is the next best thing to completely unsynched loops.

There is an option in the settings menu that allows you to enable or d= isable "count-in" while recording or overdubbing. This is a very important f= eature, it allows you to arm a track and have time to get your hands back on= your instrument  before it goes into record.

= Global menus and individual submenus...

Each= of the 6 loops has a built in sub-menu, called up by holding your finger do= wn on a loop,  allowing you to adjust the Volume level, Pan position, a= s well as import and export audio to an from each loop in your session. This= is a brilliant use of the limited real estate of the iPod / iPhone, plus it= streamlines the GUI so than non-essential functions are hidden until needed= .

Stereo

This is on= e of the most exciting features for me. Tracks may be positioned within the s= tereo soundfield and pan positions may be preset for the empty loops. &= nbsp; The big news here is that when merging two tracks (by simply dragging o= n onto another) the resulting "merged" track retains the stereo placement an= d level of the two original source tracks, and you now have one stereo track= where you previously had two mono tracks. The length of the merged track is= automatically set to the common multiple of the two source tracks, so any p= olyrhythms will be retained.

Performance recordi= ng

A "session" is defined as the six loops and t= heir settings. Sessions may be saved and recalled, or even duplicated at wil= l, and there is also the ability to make a stereo recording of the 6 loops a= long with your performance over the top of them and save this to the "record= ings" folder.

Latency

I've tested several iOS apps for latency  using the iRig interface (= which uses the mic input of the idevice via the 4th connector on the headpho= ne jack.

and the Loopy 2 has a reasonable, but not e= xceptional, latency measurement of 930 samples (21ms).   It's not m= uch of a problem in actual use except for highly precise rhythmic playing.

Here's how it stacks up to other iOS apps:

Pass through Latency measured at 44.= 1k sample rate, iPod Touch 4th gen, iOS 4.3.3

Everyday Looper 1244 sa= mples (28.2ms)

Loopy2 930 sampl= es (21ms)

Amplitube Fender Free= , normal latency mode 736 samples (16.69ms)

TC Helicon Voice Jam 730 samples (16.5ms)

Amplitube Fender Free low latency mode 490 samples (= 11.11ms)



-Chuc= k Zwicky

--=20


Hi Marcus,

Well, I have never used Pure Data however one of the members of the electro= -music community is presenting a "Pure Data" workshop/demo on Sat= urday, July 23 at the Kansas City Regional Electro-music festival:

http://kevinkissinger.com/kcregionalem2011.shtml

Since we will stream the festival (at radio.electro-music.com) you might want to chec= k out the demo and even submit questions/comments in the chatroom.

Of course, if you are in the area -- just drop by!

-- Kevin





What could be more true? =   
 
Were there no = paying gigs 
Were there no food in the = fridge 
Were there no laptop with which to explore = Looper's Delight
Were there no collection of guitars (or even = one guitar with a single broken string) 
I would still be = making music.  Every day.  Every night.  Until the hands = and the ears stop working.  And then, I will find another = way.

La Musique, ces ma raison d'etre.  I = cannot imagine my life with out her.   Though I am grateful for = every $$ made in pursuit of musical disciplines, it is not the dollars = the linger after a good performance.  The transformational power of = music, the true gift in music, is greatly diminished when we burden the = muse with mundane expectation. How many brilliant artists have = snuffed their creative fire because they believed it to be at crossed = purposes with paying bills and being a responsible person? =  /

Music demands much of us.  It is = not an easy path.  But the reward, for me anyhow, is incalculable = and can never be expressed in currencies.

With = great love for all struggling = artists
Daniel

 





= --Boundary_(ID_rTqb+99MQXK/O+W1VFa/7Q)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 18:36:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 772FC184184; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qfzFiErc3TovuhMFsrHr/ya8m/WQSvZr9qVJ/drhn9c=; b=NxY1hmM+nDGgbUGchxjjZgTEu2rMq7tOp+DeNSXCTPhDKyyLeD11Se4/2ToVW7eKc8 w4ceUbiHD42OR9r2lydB8tUKluyodJG4bOPe/eltJlPI/y+bPRpQPXPaawTWmTXRGb10 z9uNcsJwHMDPFzvGlJ/9Q0bjshsVRDlzSnEEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gu+h7KXVKqRkvlMsHW7AV95E6oCgg2obSaccICMAJRIU2A0gocspzAmml9wsvS9bf9 HQ4bW/2P6wn5EVM7wPuPFjraM7FKWUXOa+sS/divvygptaEnjtZpGpO4ha80AxaYD3Hs eXX8TFLEy7YSlKohlAMv4l+8gSixS0inHifJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:35:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _QS7up0pHRXrhLtiZL8YwFyhwwE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68dea503b25db04a5b04e31 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:36:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68dea503b25db04a5b04e31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Totally :) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Thinking about adding my own two cents to this compelling thread when I saw > this comment. > > With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of > truth. > > > What could be more true? > ** > Were there no paying gigs > Were there no food in the fridge > Were there no laptop with which to explore Looper's Delight > Were there no collection of guitars (or even one guitar with a single > broken string) > I would still be making music. Every day. Every night. Until the hands > and the ears stop working. And then, I will find another way. > > La Musique, ces ma raison d'etre. I cannot imagine my life with out her. > Though I am grateful for every $$ made in pursuit of musical disciplines, it > is not the dollars the linger after a good performance. The > transformational power of music, the true gift in music, is greatly > diminished when we burden the muse with mundane expectation. How many > brilliant artists have snuffed their creative fire because they believed it > to be at crossed purposes with paying bills and being a responsible person? > / > > Music demands much of us. It is not an easy path. But the reward, for me > anyhow, is incalculable and can never be expressed in currencies. > > With great love for all struggling artists > Daniel > > > > > > > > --0016e68dea503b25db04a5b04e31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Totally :)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:31 P= M, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Thinking about adding my own two cents = to this compelling thread when I saw this comment.
With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humb= led by the greased pig of truth.

What could be more true? =A0=A0=
=A0
W= ere there no paying gigs=A0
Were there no food in the fridge=A0
Were there no laptop with which to explore Looper's Delight
W= ere there no collection of guitars (or even one guitar with a single broken= string)=A0
I would still be making music. =A0Every day. =A0Every= night. =A0Until the hands and the ears stop working. =A0And then, I will f= ind another way.

La Musique, ces ma raison d'etre. =A0I cannot imagi= ne my life with out her. =A0 Though I am grateful for every $$ made in purs= uit of musical disciplines, it is not the dollars the linger after a good p= erformance. =A0The transformational power of music, the true gift in music,= is greatly diminished when we burden the muse with mundane expectation.=A0= How many brilliant artists have snuffed their creative fire because they be= lieved it to be at crossed purposes with paying bills and being a responsib= le person? =A0/

Music demands much of us. =A0It is not an easy path. = =A0But the reward, for me anyhow, is incalculable and can never be expresse= d in currencies.

With great love for all strugglin= g artists
Daniel

=A0
=





--0016e68dea503b25db04a5b04e31-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 18:45:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A80A184198; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=MdOiuDB+oOB5gi5WLeNPVz4dSoBrj2MrSs8t7oh0Dqw=; b=irJ7KZJ0xcTW/UaEtJWrlUKtOtFoxEWKtXj+brzEsKFJN9SDi+pD8JISzqldvcuZQR 0mcP7dgIoqKYntDb27NbGEhUvSMQHi8V7zWkxf0Q9Xh6I4LZ9/qXeUcnuExIB+Ve3RQp 8Nf1xJPrpluGgCYGs+EhGkrTasOb68+EJIlOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XPOq6wl+OM+dGqf3vfiPIZ6Cg/hGrheKt/JBkmgN2rX5BYtMPXTCdCAa32eyld6/NB vJALIW+64M4cUctLuUZPyTo8MBmOZc07/x1hOEaAgFHnn0hznuRZDLUJalU2s2ZrHTIS dK+wVwDwb3bXccFsQSJm/+wRXDsIcsNnGLDmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:44:12 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SVoXjdTt8rkXMYMdjryhC1ZlVRA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8ed24c9b1804a5b06d9c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:45:04 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8ed24c9b1804a5b06d9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > the greased pig of truth. If that aint a hit album title, I dont know what is! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8ed24c9b1804a5b06d9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wro= te:
the greased pig of truth.

If that aint a hit album tit= le, I dont know what is!



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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8ed24c9b1804a5b06d9c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 18:58:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A3F8184152; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nhJc1nneb/HaLCU9pnU5p0eRQqH9acobeOEJ/c02I7E=; b=RmVd0QHrTs9P/O4pkIhHpHEHaBkbdOcZqmpmItlONKIA7vdzmNepYFhXv0T+nEswHC k4uS3k8+M3VS7BbsubU9RUyKtevGGHn6dCFfbB0RgOcJjczcZK6LRokQWNg8nhRzA0Az JIf8zRGAWF/X6P6INWCIsKBu24alR2R8K6+DE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LjQse8hS/ib20BkEnPEKZrlOOmCuMoLVoSvtntwLCpRSziBZL+My24hvM3sNE3I5C+ YmEcmy93A+QBlN7iU0252xzT1PwZOyn2o11rChu1NhEjFu47A9ZKId5MsCsNIWP9NlBF DVDd8Ahw9zPMo1uI3goaGFr2lUGlxKa1ERoAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:58:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1aaab376aa04a5b09dc7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:58:06 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1aaab376aa04a5b09dc7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Amen....Well said On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Thinking about adding my own two cents to this compelling thread when I saw > this comment. > > With time, our pronouncements get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of > truth. > > > What could be more true? > ** > Were there no paying gigs > Were there no food in the fridge > Were there no laptop with which to explore Looper's Delight > Were there no collection of guitars (or even one guitar with a single > broken string) > I would still be making music. Every day. Every night. Until the hands > and the ears stop working. And then, I will find another way. > > La Musique, ces ma raison d'etre. I cannot imagine my life with out her. > Though I am grateful for every $$ made in pursuit of musical disciplines, it > is not the dollars the linger after a good performance. The > transformational power of music, the true gift in music, is greatly > diminished when we burden the muse with mundane expectation. How many > brilliant artists have snuffed their creative fire because they believed it > to be at crossed purposes with paying bills and being a responsible person? > / > > Music demands much of us. It is not an easy path. But the reward, for me > anyhow, is incalculable and can never be expressed in currencies. > > With great love for all struggling artists > Daniel > > > > > > > > --0015174c1aaab376aa04a5b09dc7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Amen....Well said
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On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:31 A= M, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Thinking= about adding my own two cents to this compelling thread when I saw this co= mment.

With time, our pronouncemen= ts get quieter, humbled by the greased pig of truth.
=

What could be more true? =A0=A0
=A0
Were there no paying gigs=A0
Were there no food in the fridg= e=A0
Were there no laptop with which to explore Looper's Deli= ght
Were there no collection of guitars (or even one guitar with = a single broken string)=A0
I would still be making music. =A0Every day. =A0Every night. =A0Until = the hands and the ears stop working. =A0And then, I will find another way.<= /div>

La Musique, ces ma raison d'etre. =A0I cannot = imagine my life with out her. =A0 Though I am grateful for every $$ made in= pursuit of musical disciplines, it is not the dollars the linger after a g= ood performance. =A0The transformational power of music, the true gift in m= usic, is greatly diminished when we burden the muse with mundane expectatio= n.=A0How many brilliant artists have snuffed their creative fire because th= ey believed it to be at crossed purposes with paying bills and being a resp= onsible person? =A0/

Music demands much of us. =A0It is not an easy path. = =A0But the reward, for me anyhow, is incalculable and can never be expresse= d in currencies.

With great love for all strugglin= g artists
Daniel

=A0
=





--0015174c1aaab376aa04a5b09dc7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 19:03:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A822184152; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=prmdLxpGnTbbodTlF4wx1h+bzi5rTWh2VW+9Pirmjv4=; b=I+Xp3abBxPknYbukn7tA3AikLQMOsuSCvWAGYfl0UFOLIpr1AUmksvelCVhCdbKY9j t2O5c/s5/6Cx9vHORseczGa8gb+eVw2yQfRjmn/M+vbWMDkM8s7Vf0fh9YJK/6B6tS3T RbLbMqtNlNx7EP1JQ/jkL5ih46ovEqBx2aTYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=vujSNdJqgKkwyo6B4RsqgKf0pAjnsNdUdsZIlrFex4BNytGErZtbmzJSrlaeK8WBqr s/b6J0MEvE4g8OcgFtZW8X+VRfBmmHorJrocn6xfXqmhmT2EVD6RuAc0VtXol2po+0/L RagUXxGWu6YlaJAWADNndeTPvLpz4/0ZoVwho= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:03:15 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jwmnNdKccTlCnJsPJEk5e9_CyUk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e84845a00b304a5b0b1af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:03:39 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e84845a00b304a5b0b1af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My 10 kroner on this thread is just to add that, much as every single thing that Jason said is of course true, it just aint fair that everyone gives money to U2 and not to me.. or any of the millions of clever creative musicians, thats just the way it is.. and I just wanted to point out... Thats the way it has always been! The only difference is that now you can publish your work from your bedroom as a finished product through the biggest record shop in the world (the web= ) and your music has exactly the same chance of making you the next U2, the next Lady Gaga or the next Arctic Monkeys as everyone else. There have always been marketing budgets to place an unfair advantage on th= e few lucky buggers that get deals, its just that now EVERYONE can afford to release that first single (or album or trilogy or month long drone piece). Now that of course means that the low level bar has come up a bit.. you're swimming in a fuckin muddy pond now, but it doesn=B4t really change anythin= g other than make it even MORE important to get a record deal and a major label, cos the local indies are basically making nothing. As a consumer however... phew... what a fantastic time to live in... I stopped buying the big bands 15 or 20 years ago, when I discovered house music and the dance community, there was just too much underground good stuff to peruse... Ive been doing what Jason said, buying all you guys stuff, plus the weirdest fucked up electronica from people that are so obscure their mums don't know they make music... I think there was a smidgeon of sour grapes in Jasons video.. from a gone off old wine that I think we all know the taste of, if we are honest. But a= s someone else eloquently put it, if you just like making your music and dont care if you get famous, you are gonna be happy whatever, and bloody overjoyed if you do! Mark --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e84845a00b304a5b0b1af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My 10 kroner on this thread is just to add that, much as every single thing= that Jason said is of course true, it just aint fair that everyone gives m= oney to U2 and not to me.. or any of the millions of clever creative musici= ans, thats just the way it is.. and I just wanted to point out... Thats the= way it has always been!
The only difference is that now you can publish your work from your bedroom= as a finished product through the biggest record shop in the world (the we= b) and your music has exactly the same chance of making you the next U2, th= e next Lady Gaga or the next Arctic Monkeys as everyone else.

There have always been marketing budgets to place an unfair advantage o= n the few lucky buggers that get deals, its just that now EVERYONE can affo= rd to release that first single (or album or trilogy or month long drone pi= ece).

Now that of course means that the low level bar has come up a bit.. you= 're swimming in a fuckin muddy pond now, but it doesn=B4t really change= anything other than make it even MORE important to get a record deal and a= major label, cos the local indies are basically making nothing.

As a consumer however... phew... what a fantastic time to live in... I = stopped buying the big bands 15 or 20 years ago, when I discovered house mu= sic and the dance community, there was just too much underground good stuff= to peruse... Ive been doing what Jason said, buying all you guys stuff, pl= us the weirdest fucked up electronica from people that are so obscure their= mums don't know they make music...

I think there was a smidgeon of sour grapes in Jasons video.. from a go= ne off old wine that I think we all know the taste of, if we are honest. Bu= t as someone else eloquently put it, if you just like making your music and= dont care if you get famous, you are gonna be happy whatever, and bloody o= verjoyed if you do!

Mark









--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--90e6ba6e84845a00b304a5b0b1af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 14 19:42:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3D4218416B; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IFeXpeQ2gE2eqzMtexwKI++y3PlTDWFdxCPYVgzguhY=; b=Nf4zBm+ktr6RfBsnb2mVkC9Bcc5m9aKtLQNGfDLSlUBH/N/GHVY+bQLB+okIB64Y50 vBGM6KB4uCqRzaNffzrX2EdhLmQ0SeBjoBVYxgpWOzZ6N2OpMVCfF9pPQRWxdCcH1BYt LufbJhTimyrn6uLwi5a3G08QlHfGEXFXm9TeA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IsycOKr3vgFfLqM6VF9mLe1TrFFH92MXQcmjx3vWvMeTlJM0vr2nKin6jrc1joj1a+ bgresVL0vsZzrcI321YjCt8tyhGF2qS34GaWpajlzpuaC5Ek75o/+MPaPsMXFCY5BKru z9pkORddJUwkO+dRcwRHczB7p9ZYHg4ZL8yVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110614115022.29276@web001.nyc1.bluetie.com> <40918A09-E7E5-427F-A758-D5BF210CA3F5@glasswing.com> <06243537-400F-4100-A347-1B88285C8EA0@mac.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:42:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something I just wanted to share with everyone From: Jason Finnern To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1736ada67204a5b13d12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:42:51 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1736ada67204a5b13d12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone, The responses to this video have been awsome....Thanks again for taking you= r time to give an honest opinion on this video... Jason On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: > My 10 kroner on this thread is just to add that, much as every single thi= ng > that Jason said is of course true, it just aint fair that everyone gives > money to U2 and not to me.. or any of the millions of clever creative > musicians, thats just the way it is.. and I just wanted to point out... > Thats the way it has always been! > The only difference is that now you can publish your work from your bedro= om > as a finished product through the biggest record shop in the world (the w= eb) > and your music has exactly the same chance of making you the next U2, the > next Lady Gaga or the next Arctic Monkeys as everyone else. > > There have always been marketing budgets to place an unfair advantage on > the few lucky buggers that get deals, its just that now EVERYONE can affo= rd > to release that first single (or album or trilogy or month long drone > piece). > > Now that of course means that the low level bar has come up a bit.. you'r= e > swimming in a fuckin muddy pond now, but it doesn=B4t really change anyth= ing > other than make it even MORE important to get a record deal and a major > label, cos the local indies are basically making nothing. > > As a consumer however... phew... what a fantastic time to live in... I > stopped buying the big bands 15 or 20 years ago, when I discovered house > music and the dance community, there was just too much underground good > stuff to peruse... Ive been doing what Jason said, buying all you guys > stuff, plus the weirdest fucked up electronica from people that are so > obscure their mums don't know they make music... > > I think there was a smidgeon of sour grapes in Jasons video.. from a gone > off old wine that I think we all know the taste of, if we are honest. But= as > someone else eloquently put it, if you just like making your music and do= nt > care if you get famous, you are gonna be happy whatever, and bloody > overjoyed if you do! > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > --0015174c1736ada67204a5b13d12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey everyone,
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The responses to this video have= been awsome....Thanks again for taking your time to give an honest opinion= on this video...
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Jason
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>= wrote:
My 10 kroner on this thread is just to add that, much as every single thing= that Jason said is of course true, it just aint fair that everyone gives m= oney to U2 and not to me.. or any of the millions of clever creative musici= ans, thats just the way it is.. and I just wanted to point out... Thats the= way it has always been!
The only difference is that now you can publish your work from your bedroom= as a finished product through the biggest record shop in the world (the we= b) and your music has exactly the same chance of making you the next U2, th= e next Lady Gaga or the next Arctic Monkeys as everyone else.

There have always been marketing budgets to place an unfair advantage o= n the few lucky buggers that get deals, its just that now EVERYONE can affo= rd to release that first single (or album or trilogy or month long drone pi= ece).

Now that of course means that the low level bar has come up a bit.. you= 're swimming in a fuckin muddy pond now, but it doesn=B4t really change= anything other than make it even MORE important to get a record deal and a= major label, cos the local indies are basically making nothing.

As a consumer however... phew... what a fantastic time to live in... I = stopped buying the big bands 15 or 20 years ago, when I discovered house mu= sic and the dance community, there was just too much underground good stuff= to peruse... Ive been doing what Jason said, buying all you guys stuff, pl= us the weirdest fucked up electronica from people that are so obscure their= mums don't know they make music...

I think there was a smidgeon of sour grapes in Jasons video.. from a go= ne off old wine that I think we all know the taste of, if we are honest. Bu= t as someone else eloquently put it, if you just like making your music and= dont care if you get famous, you are gonna be happy whatever, and bloody o= verjoyed if you do!

Mark